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[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2751907]She is nothing special at all. Kinda has a retard face. Or maybe she is fucked up on all her pics.[/QUOTE]Very Plain Jane. A million other choices in the ciity at a better price, and equal or better looking. IMO. I bet she really appreciates us chatting about her.
[QUOTE=Parasitius;2751861]I still have no idea why people talk like this. This is a theoretical supposition that Colombian girls are ordering stuff on an international market and therefore American money has some concrete significance to their lives. Do you think these girls are ordering Nikes off Amazon and paying import duties? Cause I promise they're not. 350,000 is a real number that relates to real prices found in their lives, 75 is some abstract concept about things that concern people who trade stocks and comodities.
350,000 is realistically $110 because that's what it will be as soon as the exchange rate returns to normal. Once they've tasted those amounts, they won't go back down. Never heard of any prosititution market anywhere in the world where a new price gets established and then falls back down in all my 20 years in the sport[/QUOTE]I'm going to explain this 2 ways.
1. When the exchange rate was 2000 to 1 the Facebook girls were getting 150 k. At 3000 to 1, still 150 k. At 4000 to 1, it finally began to move up to 200 k. After 2 years at or above 4000 per dollar, it's creeping up to 250 k.
From the monger POV, the cost at each rate was $75, $50, $50 and $63. That's over an 8 year span. Adjusting for inflation, even if it was at $90 the actual cost to the monger would be less than 8 years ago.
Has your cost for anything else dropped in the past 8 years? I just went to a place I haven't visited for 1 year. I ordered my usual. What cost $14 last year costs over $18 now. All the complaints about having to pay more for pussy when you're actually paying less seem silly at best.
2. Colombia is not some magical land where inflation doesn't exist. Costs have gone up, in some cases the increase over the past 2 years has far outpaced inflation. Every girl is spending more money just to maintain the same standard of living. If your income does not meet your living expenses, income needs to increase. In simple terms, 200 k today buys less than 200 k bought 2 years ago.
I won't try to speak for anyone else. If my boss was still trying to pay me what he was paying 8 years ago, we wouldn't be talking.
Forget about how what a girl is charging compares to what the typical Colombian makes. To begin with the number everyone uses isn't the typical or average wage, it's the government mandated minimum wage. How many of you are willing to suck my dick for minimum wage? Try getting a taxista to give you a BBBJ for 40 k.
The Colombian minimum wage has been a big issue for several years. Flat out, it's not enough to support a family. Why do you think most girls either still live at home, or share a place with several other girls? They aren't driving new BMW's and living in penthouse apartments. They're sleeping on a piece of foam on a concrete floor, with no hot water and minimal comforts.
If I need to adjust what I pay to match inflation, I'm okay with that. If I have to pay more, I'm okay with that too. If I don't want to pay what a girl wants, I know how to either keep looking, or to go where it's cheaper.
[QUOTE=RoundtheWorld;2751856]The sad fact is that these girls think they're worth 350 because some newbie or weekend warrior or "big" spender paid her that at some point.
I know for a fact these girls started in the business at 100 with far more liberal services than they now offer. Once they get more experienced, more mileage and professional they realize they can offer less and charge more if they target the inexperienced visitors.
Have some self-respect, like you did, and move on to the next girl when one gives you sucker pricing.[/QUOTE]The sad fact is that people think 350 k is big money.
You know for a fact that the girls started out charging 100 k? That's a bold statement and false. Girls start different ways, for different rates, offering different services.
Better yet, what does it matter what price a girl started at? When you're negotiating with your boss for a pay increase does he bring up where you started at?
The indifferent fact (like all facts) is that each girl is going to ask for whatever price she feels comfortable with. Each girl is going to offer services she is comfortable with. Every time, every monger needs to decide whether to pay, negotiate or walk. Complaints and arguments are not going to change any of that.
If you don't want to pay, go play in a different sandbox.
[QUOTE=Parasitius;2751861]I still have no idea why people talk like this. This is a theoretical supposition that Colombian girls are ordering stuff on an international market and therefore American money has some concrete significance to their lives. Do you think these girls are ordering Nikes off Amazon and paying import duties? Cause I promise they're not. 350,000 is a real number that relates to real prices found in their lives, 75 is some abstract concept about things that concern people who trade stocks and comodities.
350,000 is realistically $110 because that's what it will be as soon as the exchange rate returns to normal. Once they've tasted those amounts, they won't go back down. Never heard of any prosititution market anywhere in the world where a new price gets established and then falls back down in all my 20 years in the sport[/QUOTE]When Colombia was in lockdown with Covid19 and there was no flight in / out Colombia pussy price decreased real fast.
So in the end the price is up because Tourist are paying big money for pussy that's all. Without tourist they local narcos and business bosses couldn't handle them all.
So the price is what tourist are willing to pay. Keep in mind that the minimum monthly salary is now somewhere between 250-300 dollars.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2751865]And so it seems. Although I have walked El Centro. There was nothing I saw of interest. Different stokes for different guys. ...[/QUOTE]Try think about it differently. If you are going to have sex with a different girl everyday for one month, you probably can find a few of Centro girls to fit in. But if it is only a week, maybe not. You also need to get used to girls without makeup or bad makeup, and things like that.
I guess I know how you think. This reply is just trying to put some context into my perspective.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2751487]I proved with the pictures ...[/QUOTE]BBVA wasn't charging a fee to everyone before. DM is sharing information about the change in policy to help others.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2751487]...Also if you have to use a translator app to ask for "una hora" and then don't understand what is being said back to you, then you aren't ready for Medellin...[/QUOTE]I am posting my experience to share. I am guessing there are people like me so hopefully those information will be useful. Translator is irrelevant. I never said I need a translator to speak. You assume that. To me listening comprehension is much harder than speaking.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2751487]... go home and take a spanish class at your local community College....[/QUOTE]What makes you say that? Just because I share my experience? LOL.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2751922]I'm going to explain this 2 ways.
1. When the exchange rate was 2000 to 1 the Facebook girls were getting 150 k. At 3000 to 1, still 150 k. At 4000 to 1, it finally began to move up to 200 k. After 2 years at or above 4000 per dollar, it's creeping up to 250 k.
From the monger POV, the cost at each rate was $75, $50, $50 and $63. That's over an 8 year span. Adjusting for inflation, even if it was at $90 the actual cost to the monger would be less than 8 years ago.
Has your cost for anything else dropped in the past 8 years? I just went to a place I haven't visited for 1 year. I ordered my usual. What cost $14 last year costs over $18 now. All the complaints about having to pay more for pussy when you're actually paying less seem silly at best.
2. Colombia is not some magical land where inflation doesn't exist. Costs have gone up, in some cases the increase over the past 2 years has far outpaced inflation. Every girl is spending more money just to maintain the same standard of living. If your income does not meet your living expenses, income needs to increase. In simple terms, 200 k today buys less than 200 k bought 2 years ago.
I won't try to speak for anyone else. If my boss was still trying to pay me what he was paying 8 years ago, we wouldn't be talking.
Forget about how what a girl is charging compares to what the typical Colombian makes. To begin with the number everyone uses isn't the typical or average wage, it's the government mandated minimum wage. How many of you are willing to suck my dick for minimum wage? Try getting a taxista to give you a BBBJ for 40 k.
The Colombian minimum wage has been a big issue for several years. Flat out, it's not enough to support a family. Why do you think most girls either still live at home, or share a place with several other girls? They aren't driving new BMW's and living in penthouse apartments. They're sleeping on a piece of foam on a concrete floor, with no hot water and minimal comforts.
If I need to adjust what I pay to match inflation, I'm okay with that. If I have to pay more, I'm okay with that too. If I don't want to pay what a girl wants, I know how to either keep looking, or to go where it's cheaper.[/QUOTE]Are the prices you are quoting for 1 hour or 2 hours?
I think the point is that in economic terms, it doesn't make sense to track Colombian prices vs the dollar. Inflation over the last 8 years has been about 50% so one would expect prices to go up by about that to 225 k from the 150 k they were back then. Colombians shouldn't be tracking US prices because they for the most part aren't affected by currency effects. Food, housing, education, clothes, transport all track with the Colombian CPI. Only import goods would be related to currency effects. This aligns with the prices I have seen on the prepago websites over time. I suppose if the market is saturated by gringos who don't understand this, then everything will track US prices which I guess would explain the same phenomenon in Lleras, Gustos, La Isla etc. Which are all dominated by foreigners.
Regardless, the point I was trying to make was more related to the sense of superiority this girl had. I know girls can charge and do whatever they want. But it really is something when a girl who likely, as you described, is "sleeping on a piece of foam on a concrete floor" thinks that she can fairly call anyone poor. I meant it to be less of a complaint and more of a funny observation.
The price is not fixed. There were FB girls charging 250 and up before COVID.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2751986]...
Regardless, the point I was trying to make was more related to the sense of superiority this girl had. I know girls can charge and do whatever they want. But it really is something when a girl who likely, as you described, is "sleeping on a piece of foam on a concrete floor" thinks that she can fairly call anyone poor. I meant it to be less of a complaint and more of a funny observation.[/QUOTE]It seems the superiority attitude is new and more pervasive now. Some would say something like who told you I would leave my house for less than 250.
[QUOTE=Parasitius;2751861]I still have no idea why people talk like this. This is a theoretical supposition that Colombian girls are ordering stuff on an international market and therefore American money has some concrete significance to their lives. Do you think these girls are ordering Nikes off Amazon and paying import duties? Cause I promise they're not. 350,000 is a real number that relates to real prices found in their lives, 75 is some abstract concept about things that concern people who trade stocks and comodities.
350,000 is realistically $110 because that's what it will be as soon as the exchange rate returns to normal. Once they've tasted those amounts, they won't go back down. Never heard of any prosititution market anywhere in the world where a new price gets established and then falls back down in all my 20 years in the sport[/QUOTE]The exchange rate has been increasing for years, yet your saying ithat when it returns to normal the exchange rate will have dropped based on your example, yet what has been normal over the past years is the exchange rate has increased versus declined, meaning that what is normal is an increase.
In reality, Colombia is an anomaly compared to most other mongering venues. Because of the increased value of the USD and the ongoing increase in the exchange rate, mongering has actually been getting cheaper over the years versus increasing even factoring in for inflation.
Again Colombia is a unique market, not only because of the exchange rate, but you also have the flood of Venezuelans upsetting the market as well, and just about all of the Colombian providers despise them. Colombians have told me how much more lucrative the market was for them before they showed up.
And as far as Colombians thinking in terms of USD, with the exception of few, I agree with you as USD aren't used anywhere.
Anyone know any airbnb in Medellin laurles area. I am staying at San Peters in Laureles but the music until morning is killing me and cannot sleep at night. I am here for past 4 days and cannot sleep. I am looking for an apartment until October 15th. Thanks for your help.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2751792]And based on her fotos, I'd rather FK a glue sniffer zombie en el centro for 30 k. Stay poor![/QUOTE]Interesting. When I searched her name on Facebook, I come up with 3 girls with that name who I have mutual friends with and it appears all 3 are P4P. One of them looks average. Nothing wrong with her. I wouldn't pay 350 k, but I'd certainly take her over a glue sniffer.
The other 2 are fairly attractive, although the most likely one (based on the price she quoted and the mutual friends, isn't my type. Nice to look at but not my preference for sex.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2751840]That would come from the 2 week millionaires and the stupid idiots on this board who claim the two week millionaires have no effect. The ones that claim that there is no wrong way to monger and that it is their money and will spend it as they see fit. These idiots are going to pay for it when it is done to them in the future.[/QUOTE]Complete and utter nonsense.
First, the two week millionaires aren't going through Facebook to find girls. If you're not worried about price you either go to Gusto or you hire someone to bring you girls. If she's working Facebook chances are slim that she will ever run into enough of those types to change her rates.
Second, I ran the name through Facebook. One of the matches comes up as a friend of a rather well-known provider of prepagos and her girls have long been insisting on 300 k or more. Chances are she's always been charging more than the average.
Finally, it will never affect me because I know the secret to success. It's quite obvious not everyone is ready to learn the secret to success, but I will share it anyway. Perhaps it will open a few eyes, or better yet, minds.
Ready for it?
The secret is drumroll.
There are other girls.
Amazing isn't it? It might take 15 minutes, maybe an hour, but I can always find a girl in my price range.
Of course there may come a day when every girl insists on 350 k. That's when you get to decide whether or not it's worth it.
Paid $250 for my first car, a 1967 Chevy Impala SS, body fair, interior almost perfect and a strong 327 under the hood. When it came time to get a different car, $250 wouldn't cut it. I didn't stop driving.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2751986]Are the prices you are quoting for 1 hour or 2 hours?
I think the point is that in economic terms, it doesn't make sense to track Colombian prices vs the dollar. Inflation over the last 8 years has been about 50% so one would expect prices to go up by about that to 225 k from the 150 k they were back then. Colombians shouldn't be tracking US prices because they for the most part aren't affected by currency effects. Food, housing, education, clothes, transport all track with the Colombian CPI. Only import goods would be related to currency effects. This aligns with the prices I have seen on the prepago websites over time. I suppose if the market is saturated by gringos who don't understand this, then everything will track US prices which I guess would explain the same phenomenon in Lleras, Gustos, La Isla etc. Which are all dominated by foreigners.
Regardless, the point I was trying to make was more related to the sense of superiority this girl had. I know girls can charge and do whatever they want. But it really is something when a girl who likely, as you described, is "sleeping on a piece of foam on a concrete floor" thinks that she can fairly call anyone poor. I meant it to be less of a complaint and more of a funny observation.[/QUOTE]The prices I quoted are for a date. In my experience most Facebook girls will happily stick around if they're enjoying themselves. Most stay for 2+ hours (with me) and some all night.
150 k was the typical price and 225 k as an adjustment for inflation is right on. I think it's a bit over 226 k, but that's close enough. However, there have always been outliers. At 150 k I had several who wouldn't budge off of 200 or 250. I also had one who wouldn't accept less than 250 k accept 150 k once and 90 k another time. At the same time I found girls asking for 1 million or more.
If it's the right Vanessa Zapata she's one of La Vane's girls. Her girls were asking for 300-350 k 2 years ago.
Many girls are well are of the exchange rate. They know that everything costs less for us in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2751978]Try think about it differently. If you are going to have sex with a different girl everyday for one month, you probably can find a few of Centro girls to fit in. But if it is only a week, maybe not. You also need to get used to girls without makeup or bad makeup, and things like that.[/QUOTE]LOL while it's entertaining to peruse the SW's and club girls. I do not need a different ho every night or even every week. Never have. Although the apatite might be similar I look for quality over quantity. Good memories over bad to mediocre. No bags to put over their heads. If they absolutely NEED makeup, nada! I am aware there are guys who try to bang as many as they can. A lot of them here, they don't know what they are missing.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2752077]LOL while it's entertaining to peruse the SW's and club girls. I do not need a different ho every night or even every week. Never have. Although the apatite might be similar I look for quality over quantity. Good memories over bad to mediocre. No bags to put over their heads. If they absolutely NEED makeup, nada! I am aware there are guys who try to bang as many as they can. A lot of them here, they don't know what they are missing.[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I've been saying many times here, but keep getting attacked. They just don't get it. Good for us, DonCarlos! Less competition, more nice girls.