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After a two hour Thai massage (HJ offered, but no BJ unfortunately), I coincidentally passed by 7-heaven some hours ago on my way back, and I don't know wtf management does not fire whoever was sitting in the reception this evening. I didn't recognize her face, but once she started talking, I remembered this is the same cun.t who has caused me to simply walk out more than once during the last five years due to her rude and "I don't give a fuck" attitude to whatever question you might ask.

I'm not expecting to have a conversation with the matire d' of a fine restaurant, but some minimal politeness and respect for the customer? Upon here second "I don't give a fuck" answer to my question I simply turned around and silently walked out. Stopped at a regular massage place further along the way back to my airbnb and requested the same 30 year old woman who some weeks back gave me a good massage and a competent BJ, and paid her the money I planned to pay 7-heaven.

Why they don't fire this cow I don't understand. The others who man the reception are hardly shining beacons of service minded personel, but it's at least possible to ask a question or two without feeling you are talking to a person who does not care one iota about whether you buy whatever the shop is selling or not, and seems to think you are something slightly below the common garden slug on the totem pole.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2938575]I coincidentally passed by 7-heaven some hours ago on my way back, and I don't know wtf management does not fire whoever was sitting in the reception this evening. I didn't recognize her face, but once she started talking, I remembered this is the same cun.t who has caused me to simply walk out more than once during the last five years due to her rude and "I don't give a fuck" attitude to whatever question you might ask.

I'm not expecting to have a conversation with the matire d' of a fine restaurant, but some minimal politeness and respect for the customer? Upon here second "I don't give a fuck" answer to my question I simply turned around and silently walked out. Stopped at a regular massage place further along the way back to my airbnb and requested the same 30 year old woman who some weeks back gave me a good massage and a competent BJ, and paid her the money I planned to pay 7-heaven.

Why they don't fire this cow I don't understand. The others who man the reception are hardly shining beacons of service minded personel, but it's at least possible to ask a question or two without feeling you are talking to a person who does not care one iota about whether you buy whatever the shop is selling or not, and seems to think you are something slightly below the common garden slug on the totem pole.[/QUOTE]What is even more difficult to understand is why an individual would want to go over and over again in such a place and give these assh*les his money, after being treated like a dog or a subhuman more than once by these same people. Even promoting the place on multiple occasions on a dedicated site.

Unless that's precisely what this individual is looking for, giving his money to some of the biggest Thai scums and being treated like shit in return.

For reference, here is your first post about that place, from a few years ago:

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2354037]Visited this place on Monday the previous week and I'll say it was the
worst experience ever. Never have I meet such a rude and insulting
reception staff.

The reception woman, a plump woman with dyed red hair who I will
for brevity refer to as TFRB (the fat red-haired beast) from now on,
insulted both my girlfriend, who just came in to pay for my session,
and myself in one of the worst ways you can insult someone in Thailand,
by referring to me when she thought I could not hear/understand as an "it"
("man" in Thai).

Upon entering the place with my girlfriend, the first words coming from
TFRB, shouting across the room, were "no massage here!". Since my gf
and I have been to a few similar places already, we expected some mild
surprise and possible confusion from the reception staff upon seeing my
gf and me entering together, but we have never had a rude welcome before.

My girlfriend and I were taken by surprise by the anger in the TFRB's
voice, but my gf answered in English that I was there for a blowjob.
TFRB then shouted at my girlfriend "ok, but you get out!". My girlfriend
explained politely that she was there to pay for her boyfriend (me).
TFRB then said "ok, you pay, then get out".

I said we wanted to see the girls first.

TFRB answered "no, cannot see. Now she (pointing at my gf) must get
out!". I said again I wanted to see the staff first. TFRB said we have
to pay first. Then if I don't like, she will give me the money back.
For reference, at both Wood bar and BIT style, you see the girls first,
then if you want to choose one, you pay. If not, you leave.

My gf then paid and TFRB took out an ipad where I she said I could choose
amongst the girls. "Only three girls now". I said I wanted to see
the girls for real, not just photos. This TFRB refused.
Said "cannot. Choose from photo". I said if I cannot see, I would like
to get the money back now, as I was expecting the photos to be
photo-shopped into something not recognizable. TFRB gave the money back,
and we turned around to walk out. I hoped she would change her mind when
she saw me walking and let me see the staff in real life rather than
lose a customer, but she did not. Instead I changed my mind and said,
ok, let me see photos then.

My gf had as this point already walked outside, more than a little annoyed
by the obnoxious behaviour of TFRB. As a reference, my gf has treated
me to similar sessions multiple times at both Wood bar and BIT style,
and has always been welcomed with polite, albeit surprised, behaviour
from the women manning the reception there.

I asked TFRB to show me the photos then, but she responded I must pay
first. I asked her how my gf could pay when you told her to get out
already? She said my gf can come inside and pay, then get out again.
I went outside to ask my gf to come in again. As we walked back in,
we could hear TFRB talking bad about me in Thai to staff hiding behind
the counter.

After my gf had paid again, TFRB finally handed over the ipad so I could
chose amongst three women, while telling my gf again "you get out now".
All three girls, at least as far as photos were concerned, looked decent
enough, and so I choose a girl called Nui.

TFRB then went behind the counter and said one of the rudest things you
can say about anyone in Thai: "man luak Nui", which means "it chose you.
You have to work." Not "he" chose you, but "it". In Thai language,
as in English, it is extremely rude to refer to a human being as "it"
of course, and ill-tempered Thai men have shot others dead for saying
something like that to them.

For reference, my gf later asked me later what girl I choose and I showed
her Nui (https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/nui) from the website of 7-heaven
which anyone can access from anywhere. The same, and more, photos are
available on the website for anyone to see. Btw, when Nui appeared,
she did not look much like the photo at all and I would have preferred to
chose another girl, so as feared, the reason they do not let you see the
lineup in real life is because the lineup in real life looks much less
pretty than their photo-shopped pictures. They also look a lot less slim.

Not sure what the purpose of not letting my gf see the photos on the ipad
with me when she can see the same, and more photos, on her own phone by
going to the public website, but I guess there's some logic there that
escapes me at the moment.

Anyway, the rudeness of the fat red beast aside, I was still hoping for a
decent session with Nui, as I hoped the plump woman manning the reception
was just an angry ***** whose poor demeanor would not necessarily reflect
on the staff (I was wrong).

Nui started of friendly enough, so I tried to quiz her a bit about the
woman in the reception. Obviously TFRB could not be the fabled Som from
"Som's haven" who's service-minded staff there have been many posts about,
and I can't imagine that anyone with an iota of customer care in mind would let
such a beast as the red-haired woman mind the reception, so I wondered
if indeed the reason the red-haired beast was manning the reception was
because she was the owner.

I expressed my question in a more polite way to "Nui" and wondered why
TFRB was so angry, but Nui brushed it aside. I then tried to ask if
TFRB was the owner, to which Nui responded "no", but I'm not sure if
she was being truthful or not.

Anyway, not expecting to get any useful answer from Nui, we proceeded to
the BJ.

Nui first washed junior in the sink they have in the room, and then
started servicing me decently well with a BBBJ for about 15 minutes,
sucking and slurping away as you have it.

After about 15 minutes, I stood up from the table-like thing they have you
sit/lay down on and let Nui continue servicing me while I was standing up.

After a few minutes standing, Nui asked me if I was finished? I was,
for the second time at this establishment, taken a bit by surprise from
the question. I looked at Nui a bit dumbfounded and asked her why
she would think that? But she just asked again "you finished now?".

My GF also had a chuckle when I told her this later, but I unfortunately
had to disappoint Nui by telling her I had not finished yet, so she
somewhat reluctantly continued with her job. After a few minutes of
standing, I felt the need to relax my tired legs and lay down again,
and let Nui continue her services while I was laying down.

A few minutes later, Nui started saying something about if I had
"finished now? Limit 40 minutes. Finish now?"

I was feeling a bit of an annoyance from being interrupted by this stupid
question again. Does she think she will not know when I have finished?
Does she expect me to ejaculate a soft, barely noticeable, puff of oxygen
into her mouth when I come? I answered Nui politely that it's not 40
minutes yet.

There was some back and forth with Ms. Nui and me about this, and in
the end she excused herself to go "ask boss". I spent a few minutes
contemplating, life, the universe, and everything, while waiting for
Nui to come back.

When Nui came back she told me "ok, 10 minutes more." Well, I let
her service me for five minutes more and then finished in her mouth.
She cleaned me up and I exited the shop, never to return unless someone
can tell me the red-haired beast manning the reception is gone.

Will I repeat: No No No. Nobody should have to be insulted in this way
by some fat woman who seems to hate her customers, and from what I can
tell with my very limited experience of this place, the mood of this
beast affects the girls providing the service too.

Anyone know if she's the owner of this place? If not, and someone knows
the owner, feel free to let the owner know she has lost at least one
customer who is a regular at other BJ bars due to the foul best manning
the reception. Nobody in Thailand refers to other people as an "it"
("man" in Thai) unless the speaker is really at the bottom of the totem pole
as far as manners and social grace is concerned.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2938582]What is even more difficult to understand is why an individual would want to go over and over again in such a place and give these assh*les his money, after being treated like a dog or a subhuman more than once by these same people. Even promoting the place on multiple occasions on a dedicated site.

Unless that's precisely what this individual is looking for, giving his money to some of the biggest Thai scums and being treated like shit in return.

For reference, here is your first post about that place, from a few years ago:[/QUOTE]Easy: because that, and bitstyle on soi 22 (though not sure how things are there now), is unfortunately the only BJ-bar in this area where one can expect there to be some half-decent looking girls working.

Other places may or may not have that.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2937518]If it's still like it was pre-covid you won't get a dirty look from Thai customers. These guys are there for their own entertainment. Most probably if you're entertaining one of the girls one of these guys is eying, what he could do is call her over and spend more money on her than you're doing.

But expect to tip everyone in that kind of place, girl, waiters, waitress, managers, even the door man.

Look of the girls was below the quality that one could find in a touristic located gogo bar too, so not sure why everyone looks interrested in that place suddenly.[/QUOTE]I was and I agree with you.

Soon I will write a full report of Tded 99.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2938655] and bitstyle on soi 22[/QUOTE]I went to that place last week and it was nothing less than a sewer. Unfortunately I was the victim of a bait and switch and I was too slow to work out what was happening, and the lady I had was so off her face on something she was incoherent. At one stage she couldn't even hold her own weight when kneeling and fell over. During the "massage" she actually put her mobile phone on my back to use it whilst I was being massaged, thinking I wouldn't notice. Avoid Bitstyle like the plague is my best advice, and I probably have the same advice for all of Soi 22.

Here are two links to YouTube videos related to the Ted 99 / Saphan Kwai. I've been there a couple of times. For the most part, I found the girls to be 4's-6's by my rating standards. No problems for farangs; drink prices that appeal to working class Thai customers / office workers. An expat buddy who has lived in BKK for maybe 25 years used to frequent Saphan Kwai (though he pulled from Cowboy and Nana 3-4 times per week). Worth taking a looksee if you have the time in your schedule.

SAPHAN KWAI Bangkok THAILAND ENTERTAINMENT AREA. YouTube.

Agogo ladies in the secret bar near Saphan Kwai intersection at Bangkok city #agogo #agogobar. YouTube.

I don't know the name of the "secret bar" noted above. Suggest you take a screen shot, take it with you, and ask around.

Sam.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2938886]I went to that place last week and it was nothing less than a sewer. Unfortunately I was the victim of a bait and switch and I was too slow to work out what was happening, and the lady I had was so off her face on something she was incoherent. At one stage she couldn't even hold her own weight when kneeling and fell over. During the "massage" she actually put her mobile phone on my back to use it whilst I was being massaged, thinking I wouldn't notice. Avoid Bitstyle like the plague is my best advice, and I probably have the same advice for all of Soi 22.[/QUOTE]Noted.

In my experience, there are many worthwhile regular massage shops on Soi 22 though. One of the two-three massage shops immediately before and after the big Marriot hotel in the middle of the Soi is where I usually go for a competent Thai massage (around 300 per hour) plus a BJ (1,000, though if they don't remember me from before, or have not given me a BJ before, they always start at 2,000). If what you want is a normal massage, plus quite possibly, but not at all guaranteed, a BJ (or even FS, if logistics allow at the moment), the shops on this Soi are a decent choice.

I still remember my last day here last year, where I went for a massage at one of the shops a bit past Marriot, and there was a bona fide 8. 5 working there. After finishing the massage and blowing in her mouth, as I was paying for the massage at the counter, her colleague walked into the shop and sat down. Her colleague was a 9. I almost turned on my heel and booked another hour with her. Worst of all was that from my short look of them, they kind of looked like they could be sisters.

The name of that shop was Alice massage BTW, though sadly I've not seen either of those two beauties the 3-4 times I've passed by there in the last two months.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2938949]Here are two links to YouTube videos related to the Ted 99 / Saphan Kwai. I've been there a couple of times. For the most part, I found the girls to be 4's-6's by my rating standards. No problems for farangs; drink prices that appeal to working class Thai customers / office workers. An expat buddy who has lived in BKK for maybe 25 years used to frequent Saphan Kwai (though he pulled from Cowboy and Nana 3-4 times per week). Worth taking a looksee if you have the time in your schedule.

SAPHAN KWAI Bangkok THAILAND ENTERTAINMENT AREA. YouTube.

Agogo ladies in the secret bar near Saphan Kwai intersection at Bangkok city #agogo #agogobar. YouTube.

I don't know the name of the "secret bar" noted above. Suggest you take a screen shot, take it with you, and ask around.

Sam.[/QUOTE]I have seen a bunch of 6 and 7's and a few 9's and a 10 working there. However, I like white skin and big boobs, fake or real, I don't care. This is the same taste as Thai men have. Maybe that's the difference. The club does cater to Thais mostly. Further, you may have just gone in later when a lot of the girls were out already. They also hide in the Karaoke rooms around the outside and in the back, so you may have missed seeing the good ones.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2939178]I have seen a bunch of 6 and 7's and a few 9's and a 10 working there. However, I like white skin and big boobs, fake or real, I don't care. This is the same taste as Thai men have. Maybe that's the difference. The club does cater to Thais mostly. Further, you may have just gone in later when a lot of the girls were out already. They also hide in the Karaoke rooms around the outside and in the back, so you may have missed seeing the good ones.[/QUOTE]I just left T-ded, from the BTS you kinda walk through a hospital car park to get to it.

Went in, dead quiet. Only 3-4 girls and fair enough it's early but the place smells of piss I have to say.

As others mentioned you have to order food & a drink. Some kind of whisky on promo ATM but I was told 300/ h for the girl to sit with you, room is 150/ h? Had to use Google translate but managed to get the gist. I know I went early but some quick maths and it's probably like 550-600 for just an hour alone. I don't know, maybe expecting a bit more but I just left.

Today I had my first non-condom sex with a fiwfans girl, though I've only very recently started to make any effort at that (and only this year started to even do condomless sex with p4p girls).

Encounter was pretty much as normal for an average fiwfans girl. Messaged her admin (in this case she's listed as working for herself, so I guess it was herself I was messaging) that I had arrived, got the room number of one of the hotels fiwfans girls seem to like to use in Ratchada, and up I went.
Girl kinda looked like a 7. 5 AI-generated model on her profile photos, but in real life looked like a decent 21 year old 7/7. 5. Slim, small, nice fair skin, medium sized (relative to Thai) boobs. Only had a few reviews, but they were positive, so worth a gamble I thought.

Confirmed with her it was 1300 to pay for the 60 minutes before handing over the money, but she answered it was 2,000. A moment of confusion on my part, then I looked up at her and saw she was making a joke. Well, that's always welcome. Gave her the money and stripped down, telling her we should shower together, but she said she had already showered (good service girl will shower with you), so I showered alone. Got out of the shower and laid down on the bed. She then went into the bathroom and washed herself, seemingly on the toilet. Well, whatever.

Came out and lay down next to me, starting with a HJ, which did not really result in much. Gently pushed her head towards my dick and she gave me a 60 second blowjob, before she stretched out for the condom. Said I'd like her to continue sucking, but she said she did not like that. Asked her if Thai guys don't like blowjobs? She answered they like, but she doesn't like. Oh well, another minus.
Most fiwfans girl are a bit like this unfortunately, though I've met a handful of exceptions as I greatly enjoy BJs, and even prefer a BBBJ to condomed sex most of the time.

Pulled her on top of me instead then to suck on her boobs for a bit, while grinding my dick against her pussy. After some minutes of that, lay her down on the back and did the same. After a while of that, sat up between her legs and pushed my dick with my hand against her pussy, up and down, and eventually gently pushing my dick against her entrance. At that point she indicated I should put on the condom, but I instead asked her if she wanted a tip.

For what it matters, I asked in Thai. I speak only a very little Thai, but enough for very basic things like this. It did not seem like she understood much English, and I'm not sure she would have understood if I had asked in English, so as someone else here who seemingly does speak Thai well said, speaking at least some very basic Thai does help.

She answered my question by asking how much, and I said 1,000. She said ok, and I started to enter. She reached for the K-Y, but I said never mind that (I don't like it), and instead very slowly and carefully entered. After fucking her for some minutes, she asked me in Thai to not cum inside her, though I did not understand what she said, so she had to indicate with her hand that she wanted me to cum on her stomach. I managed to tell to her that I have had a vasectomy, and then we were ok about that (again: why these girls are seemingly not on the pill or something similar, I cannot fathom). We continued banging in a few positions, and I made an effort at getting her to enjoy it too, but she only started warming up a bit towards the end, a minute or two before I blew into her pussy.

Rolled off her and she jumped into the shower, while I relaxed on the bed for some minutes, then went and took a shower myself when she was done. Put on my clothes, give her the 1000 baht tip with a thanks, and a sa wat de krap as out the door I went.

So service vice this was pretty much a typical fiwfans encounter as far as I am concerned, but made noteworthy for me by being able to CIP the sweet young thing. Like I said, I'd rate her as a 7 only (though a solid one), but a 21 year old, slim, non-tattooed 7. In comparison, 99% of what I see at Nana and Cowboy is 5 or less to me, and the same for the sex-shops around Sukhumvit.
Service is however rather subpar on average with the fiwfans girls I'd say, though I've had a handful of exceptions. E. g. , I recently banged "Nut" at Mango massage. "Nut" is ok looking (and her considerable charm drives her up an additional notch or two), but she's not a sweet 21 year old thing (though she's not old either. Around 25 perhaps?). Nut's service on the other hand blows what little service the typical fiwfans girl offers out of the water, Unfortunately difficult to find both in one p4 p girl (much easier to find that with regular non-p4 p girls who actually want to bang you, rather than just your wallet).

Outside this particular hotel/long-term stay (Buddy place) there is a 180 baht / hour Thai massage place that gives an above average competent Thai massage with some 25-40 year old women. The shop itself is so tiny that one can't really get anything more than a massage (well, a HJ would perhaps be possible, but even that I'm not sure about due to how small and cramped the shop is), but since I like Thai massage, and the massage here is both better and cheaper, if I have time, I usually relax with a two hour Thai massage here after banging the girl.

I've banged a handful or two different girls in this particular 2-star hotel, so I guess if I was thus inclined and had the time, I could easily book another girl at the same hotel, timed to when my massage will finish. Or you could have a bit to eat at the small on-site restaurant. I'm thinking there'd be 5-10 or other girls to choose from, or from another similar hotel a 10 minute walk away, for another 5-10 girls.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2939278]Today I had my first non-condom sex with a fiwfans girl, though I've only very recently started to make any effort at that (and only this year started to even do condomless sex with p4p girls).

Encounter was pretty much as normal for an average fiwfans girl. Messaged her admin (in this case she's listed as working for herself, so I guess it was herself I was messaging) that I had arrived, got the room number of one of the hotels fiwfans girls seem to like to use in Ratchada, and up I went.
Girl kinda looked like a 7. 5 AI-generated model on her profile photos, but in real life looked like a decent 21 year old 7/7. 5. Slim, small, nice fair skin, medium sized (relative to Thai) boobs. Only had a few reviews, but they were positive, so worth a gamble I thought.

Confirmed with her it was 1300 to pay for the 60 minutes before handing over the money, but she answered it was 2,000. A moment of confusion on my part, then I looked up at her and saw she was making a joke. Well, that's always welcome. Gave her the money and stripped down, telling her we should shower together, but she said she had already showered (good service girl will shower with you), so I showered alone. Got out of the shower and laid down on the bed. She then went into the bathroom and washed herself, seemingly on the toilet. Well, whatever.

Came out and lay down next to me, starting with a HJ, which did not really result in much. Gently pushed her head towards my dick and she gave me a 60 second blowjob, before she stretched out for the condom. Said I'd like her to continue sucking, but she said she did not like that. Asked her if Thai guys don't like blowjobs? She answered they like, but she doesn't like. Oh well, another minus.
Most fiwfans girl are a bit like this unfortunately, though I've met a handful of exceptions as I greatly enjoy BJs, and even prefer a BBBJ to condomed sex most of the time.

Pulled her on top of me instead then to suck on her boobs for a bit, while grinding my dick against her pussy. After some minutes of that, lay her down on the back and did the same. After a while of that, sat up between her legs and pushed my dick with my hand against her pussy, up and down, and eventually gently pushing my dick against her entrance. At that point she indicated I should put on the condom, but I instead asked her if she wanted a tip.

For what it matters, I asked in Thai. I speak only a very little Thai, but enough for very basic things like this. It did not seem like she understood much English, and I'm not sure she would have understood if I had asked in English, so as someone else here who seemingly does speak Thai well said, speaking at least some very basic Thai does help.

She answered my question by asking how much, and I said 1,000. She said ok, and I started to enter. She reached for the K-Y, but I said never mind that (I don't like it), and instead very slowly and carefully entered. After fucking her for some minutes, she asked me in Thai to not cum inside her, though I did not understand what she said, so she had to indicate with her hand that she wanted me to cum on her stomach. I managed to tell to her that I have had a vasectomy, and then we were ok about that (again: why these girls are seemingly not on the pill or something similar, I cannot fathom). We continued banging in a few positions, and I made an effort at getting her to enjoy it too, but she only started warming up a bit towards the end, a minute or two before I blew into her pussy.

Rolled off her and she jumped into the shower, while I relaxed on the bed for some minutes, then went and took a shower myself when she was done. Put on my clothes, give her the 1000 baht tip with a thanks, and a sa wat de krap as out the door I went.

So service vice this was pretty much a typical fiwfans encounter as far as I am concerned, but made noteworthy for me by being able to CIP the sweet young thing. Like I said, I'd rate her as a 7 only (though a solid one), but a 21 year old, slim, non-tattooed 7. In comparison, 99% of what I see at Nana and Cowboy is 5 or less to me, and the same for the sex-shops around Sukhumvit.
Service is however rather subpar on average with the fiwfans girls I'd say, though I've had a handful of exceptions. E. g. , I recently banged "Nut" at Mango massage. "Nut" is ok looking (and her considerable charm drives her up an additional notch or two), but she's not a sweet 21 year old thing (though she's not old either. Around 25 perhaps?). Nut's service on the other hand blows what little service the typical fiwfans girl offers out of the water, Unfortunately difficult to find both in one p4 p girl (much easier to find that with regular non-p4 p girls who actually want to bang you, rather than just your wallet).

Outside this particular hotel/long-term stay (Buddy place) there is a 180 baht / hour Thai massage place that gives an above average competent Thai massage with some 25-40 year old women. The shop itself is so tiny that one can't really get anything more than a massage (well, a HJ would perhaps be possible, but even that I'm not sure about due to how small and cramped the shop is), but since I like Thai massage, and the massage here is both better and cheaper, if I have time, I usually relax with a two hour Thai massage here after banging the girl.

I've banged a handful or two different girls in this particular 2-star hotel, so I guess if I was thus inclined and had the time, I could easily book another girl at the same hotel, timed to when my massage will finish. Or you could have a bit to eat at the small on-site restaurant. I'm thinking there'd be 5-10 or other girls to choose from, or from another similar hotel a 10 minute walk away, for another 5-10 girls.[/QUOTE]1000 baht tip is too much, don't simp and be a baby back *****.

Also, get an STD test if your going to engage in risky behavior in a city with a known high HIV and STD rate.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2939278]Today I had my first non-condom sex with a fiwfans girl, though I've only very recently started to make any effort at that (and only this year started to even do condomless sex with p4p girls).

Encounter was pretty much as normal for an average fiwfans girl. Messaged her admin (in this case she's listed as working for herself, so I guess it was herself I was messaging) that I had arrived, got the room number of one of the hotels fiwfans girls seem to like to use in Ratchada, and up I went.
Girl kinda looked like a 7. 5 AI-generated model on her profile photos, but in real life looked like a decent 21 year old 7/7. 5. Slim, small, nice fair skin, medium sized (relative to Thai) boobs. Only had a few reviews, but they were positive, so worth a gamble I thought.

Confirmed with her it was 1300 to pay for the 60 minutes before handing over the money, but she answered it was 2,000. A moment of confusion on my part, then I looked up at her and saw she was making a joke. Well, that's always welcome. Gave her the money and stripped down, telling her we should shower together, but she said she had already showered (good service girl will shower with you), so I showered alone. Got out of the shower and laid down on the bed. She then went into the bathroom and washed herself, seemingly on the toilet. Well, whatever.

Came out and lay down next to me, starting with a HJ, which did not really result in much. Gently pushed her head towards my dick and she gave me a 60 second blowjob, before she stretched out for the condom. Said I'd like her to continue sucking, but she said she did not like that. Asked her if Thai guys don't like blowjobs? She answered they like, but she doesn't like. Oh well, another minus.
Most fiwfans girl are a bit like this unfortunately, though I've met a handful of exceptions as I greatly enjoy BJs, and even prefer a BBBJ to condomed sex most of the time.

Pulled her on top of me instead then to suck on her boobs for a bit, while grinding my dick against her pussy. After some minutes of that, lay her down on the back and did the same. After a while of that, sat up between her legs and pushed my dick with my hand against her pussy, up and down, and eventually gently pushing my dick against her entrance. At that point she indicated I should put on the condom, but I instead asked her if she wanted a tip.

For what it matters, I asked in Thai. I speak only a very little Thai, but enough for very basic things like this. It did not seem like she understood much English, and I'm not sure she would have understood if I had asked in English, so as someone else here who seemingly does speak Thai well said, speaking at least some very basic Thai does help.

She answered my question by asking how much, and I said 1,000. She said ok, and I started to enter. She reached for the K-Y, but I said never mind that (I don't like it), and instead very slowly and carefully entered. After fucking her for some minutes, she asked me in Thai to not cum inside her, though I did not understand what she said, so she had to indicate with her hand that she wanted me to cum on her stomach. I managed to tell to her that I have had a vasectomy, and then we were ok about that (again: why these girls are seemingly not on the pill or something similar, I cannot fathom). We continued banging in a few positions, and I made an effort at getting her to enjoy it too, but she only started warming up a bit towards the end, a minute or two before I blew into her pussy.

Rolled off her and she jumped into the shower, while I relaxed on the bed for some minutes, then went and took a shower myself when she was done. Put on my clothes, give her the 1000 baht tip with a thanks, and a sa wat de krap as out the door I went.

So service vice this was pretty much a typical fiwfans encounter as far as I am concerned, but made noteworthy for me by being able to CIP the sweet young thing. Like I said, I'd rate her as a 7 only (though a solid one), but a 21 year old, slim, non-tattooed 7. In comparison, 99% of what I see at Nana and Cowboy is 5 or less to me, and the same for the sex-shops around Sukhumvit.
Service is however rather subpar on average with the fiwfans girls I'd say, though I've had a handful of exceptions. E. g. , I recently banged "Nut" at Mango massage. "Nut" is ok looking (and her considerable charm drives her up an additional notch or two), but she's not a sweet 21 year old thing (though she's not old either. Around 25 perhaps?). Nut's service on the other hand blows what little service the typical fiwfans girl offers out of the water, Unfortunately difficult to find both in one p4 p girl (much easier to find that with regular non-p4 p girls who actually want to bang you, rather than just your wallet).

Outside this particular hotel/long-term stay (Buddy place) there is a 180 baht / hour Thai massage place that gives an above average competent Thai massage with some 25-40 year old women. The shop itself is so tiny that one can't really get anything more than a massage (well, a HJ would perhaps be possible, but even that I'm not sure about due to how small and cramped the shop is), but since I like Thai massage, and the massage here is both better and cheaper, if I have time, I usually relax with a two hour Thai massage here after banging the girl.

I've banged a handful or two different girls in this particular 2-star hotel, so I guess if I was thus inclined and had the time, I could easily book another girl at the same hotel, timed to when my massage will finish. Or you could have a bit to eat at the small on-site restaurant. I'm thinking there'd be 5-10 or other girls to choose from, or from another similar hotel a 10 minute walk away, for another 5-10 girls.[/QUOTE]And follow up on which doctor you use in case she infected you.

I did a 24-hour layover in Bangkok earlier this week.

I got a hotel just 1-minute walk from Nana Plaza.

First night, I had a 2000st TF girl and I would say it was worth it.

I woke up early the following day and was struggling with what to do during the day time. I just look the BTS and Metro around town and there's definitely some good looking civvies, but I didn't meet anyone. I got friendly looks and maybe that's an option in the future if I feel like putting effort into it.

I went in to Hooters around noon and it seems within the realm of possibility to exchange Line and make an offer to a girl there if you talk and chat a bit, and I will keep that in mind for the future because that would be fun.

After that I spent my time in my hotel on TF. One girl came over but she didn't look as good as her photos and we just weren't compatible in bed. After she gave me head for a while and got on bed, I told her I'd just give her 1000 to leave now instead of the 2000 we agreed on.

I found that most good looking TF girls are wanting at least 3000st, some asking as high as 5000st. I don't mind paying 3000st if she's very attractive, but I've been asking them to do a short video call. Just stand up with clothes on to verify appearance and many of them refuse.

Around 4 pm, I walked past the beer bars that are by Nana Plaza and OMG the girls are hideous. Last time I looked at those bars was in 2019 and I don't remember them being that ugly. Maybe I had lower standards of looks back then, I'm not sure. I forced myself to walk into one of them and I wad ushered by the staff to sit in a seat at a table where 2 girls were at playing pool. I pretended to look at the drink menu, and then left.

I went back to my hotel and waited for 7 pm for Nana to open. I didn't have high hopes for having a good time at Nana because last time I went there in 2022, it was a subpar experience. (The girl was good looking, but she didn't have a condom and I didn't think of bringing my own so I paid for an expensive BJ). This time, however, I was pleasantly surprised. It seems 7 pm is a bit early, so I had some food at the bar in the center to kill time first, then I went into one of the gogos on the 2nd floor and there was about 10 girls on stage. Half of them were hot. I picked one, the price was 1000 to the bar, 3000 to the girl, and 400 for our drinks. Without getting into unnecessary detail, her service was good and she was friendly and pleasant to be around. Worth the price.

I forgot to try Fiwfans, but I'll try when I return later this year.

A few questions.

In Nana, is Twisters (first floor) still open? Last time I was here that place had the most girls. Maybe I just sent too early, even though the sign says open at 19:00.

What's with the girls sitting outside on the balconies in front of the gogos? Are they working? Some of them seem dressed up like they are. Most of them are just sitting there. Not eating or anything.

[QUOTE=Sychip1;2939228]I just left T-ded, from the BTS you kinda walk through a hospital car park to get to it.

Went in, dead quiet. Only 3-4 girls and fair enough it's early but the place smells of piss I have to say.

As others mentioned you have to order food & a drink. Some kind of whisky on promo ATM but I was told 300/ h for the girl to sit with you, room is 150/ h? Had to use Google translate but managed to get the gist. I know I went early but some quick maths and it's probably like 550-600 for just an hour alone. I don't know, maybe expecting a bit more but I just left.[/QUOTE]I think you did not go to the right bar. There is no hospital parking lot anywhere near there LOL. It's opposite a 7/11 and the place has about 150 girls inside and has never smelled like piss.

As for the rooms and girls, it's 2500 baht for ST and it includes the room.

The polka eons around 9. At that time all the girls will be in the back getting make up or they sit in a large room of seating along the back hall way by the toilets. I think you better stay away from the Thai places mate. The club is huge and wraps around another side where the other karaoke rooms and toilets are. I really think you either went to the wrong place or you just are not that good a navigating your way around. also if you can't speak Thai, everything in here will be difficult for you.

What time did you go? 6PM lol

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2939354]A few questions.

In Nana, is Twisters (first floor) still open? Last time I was here that place had the most girls. Maybe I just sent too early, even though the sign says open at 19:00.

What's with the girls sitting outside on the balconies in front of the gogos? Are they working? Some of them seem dressed up like they are. Most of them are just sitting there. Not eating or anything.[/QUOTE]Yes Twisters is open.

The girls sitting outside are on their pause. It's not their turn to be on stage, they'll go back in when it's going to be their turn again.

If you fancy one of them, you can give her a sign to follow you inside, she will gladly do it.