Manila

Seems like I touched a hot button with the T-word. Wow! I hadn't seen any. So was just asking. I'm aware that pick will vary at any spot, including LA Cafe'. I was just trying to give an objective report of what I saw. The truth is that the place is a serious zoo. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't where the trannies hang out (like anyone would ever notice THAT at the LACafe). I can picture the conversation now:

Patron#1: There goes a 10; what a bod
Patron #2: Yeah, and from the look of her hot pants, she's happy to see you too!

Mottley Dude:

You're welcome in Davao any time. In fact, I just found three new places, two of which are really fun with fine-looking ladies. I agree with you about the Pinays. Under that gentle, loving demeanor beats the heart of a true predator who just wants to get the hell out of here. It's easy to fall in love but it's a lot harder to disentangle yourself.

GE

Used the services of JayR last December. You guys are right. He definitely takes a cut from what your paying the casa or bar, however, he makes up for that by making you feel safe. I wouldn't be so sure with the other taxi drivers. He definitely had an idea that i was carrying loads of money since i've been going to high class establishments most of the time, but, no matter what, he always sticks to business. He even covers my back when withdrawing money from ATM machines in high crime areas. I doubt if he would dare screw any of you mongers here since we are his "bread and butter." I will definitely use his services next time. Like what other mongers stated, expect to see some hesitation on his part if you ask him to go to LA Cafe.

Masterblaster

Are the girls you see on the website from the ktvphil clubs available to take back to the hotel? I know they are expensive but where else can you meet some high class girls?

If you are interested in girls with meat between their legs, you will be better off going to Thailand for Ladyboys. We happen to like real girls and have no interest in those things... If thats what you are into or have a curiosity, more power to ya.

Manila can be a whole at times but, you can have a good time if you plan things ahead. Getting totally stoned at the bars is not a good idea. You're just asking for trouble. Normally, the locals won't bother you (too much) but if you present a weakened state either physically and/or mentally, you are fair game!

LA Cafe can be a hit or miss situation. Most of the time, it's a hit. We all want great looking women but if you spend your time looking for 8's, 9's or 10s, you will definately miss out on some fun. You don't have to screw girls that are butt ugly, but a 5, 5 or 7 will take care of you just as well as any 8, 9, or 10. In my experience, the average girls seem more eager to please than the prettier ones. Some of them tend to be on the picky/bitchy side and expect more for their services.

[b]EDSA & LA Café[/b]

I had heard much mentioned about LA Café or Ricks Café, which it turns out is actually a bar and grill however I was excited at going down there and sampling the best that Manila has to offer. On my chosen night of going out on the town (again) I decided to check out two night spots, the first being EDSA complex then L.A Café. Anyone who is familiar to Manila will have no problems getting around however, if you are new to the city or just passing through like myself you will need exact direction to both locations.

My taxi driver to EDSA said its actually pronounced locally as ED-SA and not how I would have imagine E-D-S-A centre which is close to Pasig, the average taxi driver would struggle to locate the venue without proper directions. There is also for bearings the Manila Light Rail Network which has a station close by, however I didn’t get an opportunity to try this out, whilst I was there in Manila.

In side EDSA which is located on one level you will find seven bars, with many girls depending on your taste in music, you will hopefully find a bar, best suited to your choice. You will observe the sign outside which points out that no firearms are allowed inside, in case you have a dispute with your bill. But generally whether entering mall or any clubs you will find a high level of security present, in EDSA no cameras, so I had mine taken from me. I first went into Firehouse and on early arrival at around 9pm there was hardly any customers around and I was one of the only six or seven customers present in the club, and yes I counted, despite the club being fairly empty of customers and at least 30 girls working in there the girls did not make an effort to attract my attention. In fact from what I could see they were more interested in talking to themselves in small groups. I had one quick drink in there before quickly moving on to the next bar next door, I can’t recall the exact name but its theme was a space ship, once inside there was a group of five Americans making up the numbers and I spotted at least two or three girls that were 8s in my books. However, just as in Firehouse the girls were slow to come forward but the waiters were asking what drink you wanted to order. In this bar I didn’t stay long enough to buy a drink.

Moving on to bar three I entered the [b]Pitt Stop,[/b] which I can say had the most customers in, than the three other bars I had seen previously. In here I would have to say the girls had a bit more life in them not being as slow to come forward and I struck up a conversation with two pretty girls from the Visaya region of the Philippines, who it turns out were cousins. Drinks in these bar are around 60 - 80 pesos (U$1.07 -1.40) Unfortunately, because my mind was fixed on going to LA Café I did not get the bar fine prices but I am sure it was in the region of 2,000 pesos, however, I stand to be corrected.

I would not rule out EDSA because if you look wide and hard you can a few gems in there so its worth going to have a look because you can bar fine them once and then hook up with them later, once you have the cell phone number.

[b]Contacts:[/b]

EDSA Complex, Pasay City


[i]I am breaking up this post into two parts so LA Café is the next post.[/i]

[b]LA Café[/b]

Following my time spent in EDSA I then took a twenty minute taxi ride over to Ermita and LA Café.

[u][b]Please note:[/b][/u] it’s a myth that all taxi drivers know where is the LA Café and how to find it, it is best to have clear directions, given below in this post, because I asked several taxi drivers whenever I took a taxi, where is the LA Café and a majority of them did not know what I was talking about and yes I do speak English. Only two out of twelve knew of the place.

Upon my arrival at the LA Café my expectations were raised, further still, when one Japanese looking guy who was waiting for my taxi with a rather fit looking young lady. Upon entering the bar I took the seat nearest the door by the bar and was immediately set on by two big, [u]by Philippino standards,[/u] average by US standard girls, who were not my type at all. I made pleasant conversation and didn’t encourage them too much to keep my options open. Then following this some old dragon came and sat down next to me on my right hand side and was trying to make conversation, she was well in her 30’s if not early 40s, now despite me not even looking in her face when I gave my one word replies, she still sat there. I have a policy of not going with uglier girls than I can find at home or else I would not have travelled 8,000 odd miles to the Philippines for this.

Sitting sipping on my drink watching to see who was coming and going in LA Café at the main door I noticed that several other girls further along the bar were making eye contact with me, but these were not my type. Then this dragon who sitting next to me, who was now intensely watching me looking at the girls, asked me if she is my type, and I reply no you are not, then she said most of the girls in there are her friends and she can find me a nice girl. I reply that I am very fussy to start with anyway, so she would have a difficult task ahead of her, but she accepts the challenge saying that I should give her a tip for her troubles, I said if you can find me a decent girl I will tip you and then spent 60 Pesos (U$1.07) to buy her a drink. With her drink in hand she goes off to in search of this elusive girl, she has promised to find me, and I don’t hold out much hope. During this time I had now seen a number of other guys entering the bar, just like myself, they looked lost; one came and stood at the door for what seemed like 30 minutes not even taking a seat or talking to anyone, until he left. From what I could see the girls will come in and then quickly circulate themsleves to see who’s available so if you are a guy and want to attract attention its best not to have any dragons sitting next to you.

In my own opinion I did not see any girls in there that would rate the LA Café as having the best girls in Manila, no model types to be seen, yes, it certainly cheaper but for my money although relatively more expensive the clubs and bars of P.Burgos street, Makati had vastly superior girls. It wasn’t long before the dragon had returned with some young looking skinny girl that, just wasn’t my type. As I had explained to her, I have just come from EDSA where there were at least 10 girls in all of the clubs I had visited, who were far superior to what she had just shown me. Why would I now want girls that are worse than what I could have had earlier in the evening? Then the dragon said I was just saying that at that the girls were beautiful her, to which I replied then why are they alone then, surely the fact that they are looking for some must tell you something here?

Then I made a fatal mistake, when the dragon asked me to pick out a pretty girl, I had a look around and after about, what took some twenty minutes, I noticed one girl who was circulating herself, I said was OK, not beautiful just OK for sex, not a beauty, with that the dragon lady jumps out of her seat and claims the girl Joy is her friend, and invites her to sit with me. Anyway, fast forward, I get talking to Joy and try to strike up a conversation and now instead of thinking rationally, that I should go back to EDSA and get one of the girls I was talking to earlier, I decide to go with this girl I was with, Joy. So as we go to leave for my hotel the dragon reappears and claims I owe her a tip, so I give her 100 Pesos (U$1.78) to which she replies its not enough, somehow I don’t recall having a conversation discussing her rates. So as me and Joy walk out of the bar the dragon follows us and I say I am not giving her any more money, because we did not enter an agreement. Then Dragon lady says to Joy that she owes her the 100 Pesos (1.78), as we get into the taxi. Then some other scam artist comes over and wants a tip from me as well, for claiming he hailed me a taxi, so rather than start an argument at nearly 1am in the morning, I drop two pesos coins in his hand to which he looks at and says it not enough but at this time I had closed the taxi door and instructed the driver to go, leaving dragon woman and the scam artist on the side of the road.

In the taxi despite asking him if he had a metre, the driver had now switched it off, so I instruct him to turn on back the meter or else I will take another taxi, the driver is then trying to claim that it would be more expensive with a meter and I say fine, but let’s just keep the meter running because once you reach your destination they will then claim the fare is 200 or 300 pesos. The driver is pissed and says something in [i]tagalong[/i] to the girl Joy who responds. Joy then claims that she doesn’t know, this dragon women, who wants 100 Pesos from her and asks if she is my friend. Upon arrival to the hotel I make sure I give the driver the exact money because as I have said before you only tip for good service.

Its well past midnight and I am very hungry because I have not eaten all day and decided to grab a bite to eat I offer some food to Joy who orders a big plate of pasta, which she cannot eat, plus she takes two sips of the mango juice she also ordered, so as I have a policy of eating what I order I suggest she asks for a carry out and takes the remainder with her. In the room we wash and get down to business but to be honest Joy is fairly useless, the CBJ was terrible and sex unexceptional not what I was expecting from LA Café, however you live and learn. I thought I would be generous and give her 1000 Pesos (U$18) for her effort but she jumped up and asked for 1,500 Pesos (U$26), remember this is for short time of less than 40 minutes of action. And then claimed she had this bill to pay and that to pay for and a baby to look after and she was the only one working in her family. Plus she also wanted to go home and claimed she was going to come back in the morning, first thing (like I was really going to believe this) because if her baby wakes up and she was not there her child would be crying, where is my mummy. I know none of this was any of my business but I gave her an extra 500 Pesos (U$9) and be done with it although with hindsight considering the meal I had just brought her I realised that I had well overpaid her for her services. The Dusit’s security is tight and when Joy left the security called my room to ask if everything was alright as my guest was now leaving, I said yes all is fine.

So to sum up I was not overly impressed with the LA Café I felt there were too many scam artist in there and on the night I was there, a Thursday, the girls in my opinion were basic 6s and 7s nothing exceptional to get excited about, there may well have been one or two gems to be had, but at 10pm when I had arrived I can only speculate that they had all been snapped up, if in fact they were there at all. In my opinion I had seen better looking girls in the clubs of Makati in P Burgos Street and also in EDSA generally on a higher level; OK, they were more expensive but you have to weigh up what you want quantity or quality. This in my opinion the LA Café was lacking in quality not quantity, others might disagree, I don’t think I would put myself out to go back to LA Café when there are so many other better choices available to pick from in Manila. If I go back to Manila I might give it another shot but I certainly would not rush back to go there, I regret not bar fining a beauty from EDSA, but we live and learn.

[b]Contacts:[/b]

EDSA Complex, Pasay City
LA Café, Bar & Grill, 1429 M.H.Del Pilar, Ermita, Manila

Juniour


[i]Attached is the photo of the scam artist Joy[/i]

Juniour, can you explain to us all again just exactly how Joy "scammed" you eg did she promise you a BBBJ, did she promise you great sex, did she take more money than you had originally agreed upon etc, etc.

"Juniour, can you explain to us all again just exactly how Joy "scammed" you eg did she promise you a BBBJ, did she promise you great sex, did she take more money than you had originally agreed upon etc, etc?"


Jack, yes to all of the above....I should add I did not rush out of there, I spent 45 minutes talking to her before I left.

Juniour

I have been to the Philippines 3 times last year, and on each stay. I have stay for a month each. I stay around the Malate area, which is very close to Ermita, which is where LA Cafe is. I use to go there everyday.

Ermita/ Malate area is a haven for hustlers. Everyone that is inside/outside is trying to hustle you. Although, I know many of the girls, and some of the hustlers, they will still try to hustle you, if given the chance. They will cheat, steal, or rob you, if you don't watch it. Of course, there are some that won't. Even the locals know this, so why shouldn't you?

This come from the environment, that you are at. Like any "Red Light Districts," Whether, in your country, other countries, or the Philippines, It can be dangerous, if you are unaware of things. If you are, then you can go on with your business, but be cautious.

Some of the girls are nice, and some of them are not so nice. Like girls, everywhere. I like to get to the point of what they want, not what they are going to surprise me with, and not "up to you line." I know of some girls that are range from 300 to 3K pesos (ugly, old to good looking) in LA cafe. Whatever they can get away with. Just remember that you are in a third world country, and they don't have much. Some of their stories (babies, families, troubles, problems) are true, but most are not. Hey that is their problems, not your. You are trying to enjoy yourself, not fix someone problems. If you hook up with one of these girls, they will drain you, but not like your country, so that is cool, but if you look at Philipinos standard. It is high, so you are getting a bargain, since you don't live there, or not staying very long at all.

To me, Hookers are the world greatest con-artists, because, when you ask them, if they will do this, or that. They will tell you they do everything, or agree with you. When the time comes, they will tell you they don't do this, or that. Then you have to pay them to get rid of them. Of course, it is easier for me, b/c I stay longer there. For the short term travelers, you just want to get rid of the pest, and move on! This happens all over the world, even at your own country. So, it is not you. It happens to a lot of guys I know that travels.

This is my opinions, and you don't have to agree with it,

Spidey

P.S. I will agree with you that in the Philippines, if you know what you are doing. You can get free, or cheap pussy. If you are in Thailand, it doesn't work that way. Everything is about the Money!

And yes, I am like most of the long time travels. I have been hustle many times. It will not be the first, nor the last time!

Hey Juniour,

I just read your report over on the Makati board and I thought it couldnt get any worse. Then I read your report here and I see that it gets considerably worse. P1500 for an LA Cafe chick for 40 minutes, plus dinner? My god, you have set a new precedent. You can pay P500 for all night with no dinner. Imagine if she had stayed all night with you, maybe 8 hours. P13000 plus breakfast. Hehhehee Keep going boy, and you will single-handedly prop up the economy there.

Mikster

Hi vets,

Thanks for your recommendation here for me. I will be arriving in Manila on a Sunday afternoon and heading up to Baguio. My question is should I try for a quick massage and service there in Manila (Skyline or Airforce One) before heading up to Baguio that night or would I do better off stopping off at Angeles City for a quickie before continuing onward to Baguio that same night. I hear that not much is available in Baguio City and therefore thought I would get something on my way up. Any of you who are aware of some places where I can get a quickie thanks for your recommendation?

Do you recommend skyline or Airforce One?

Is there something comparable in AC or do I need to go to a bar. Are there some good short time hotels there?

Thanks for your help here.

Hank

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Spidey,

I am sure alot of idiots get hustled when they to to the RP or elsewhere, but there is really no excuse for it. I just made my rookie trip to AC, Manila/Makati and I had no problems at all. Yes, all kinds of people tried to hustle me. Big deal. Whatever happened to just telling people to fuck off or simply ignoring them? Thats all I did, and if someone touched me I gave them a gentle shove out of the way followed by a "I will kick your ass" stare. Im not all that big at 6-1 and 210, but over there I tower over just about everyone and alot heavier so you can use it to your advantage. I always walked around at night and if you look like you wont take shit, rarely will anyone give you shit. If a girl does not perform as she informed me, then out the door she goes with taxi fare. end of discussion. No arguing or pleading, just out. These guys who pay girls P1000 to P2000 just to get them out the door to avoid a hassle are pussies. Buck up men, act like a man over there and you will rule.

Hans Bali,

LA Cafe is not a cesspool. Its a very good place with alot of girls at unbelievable prices. P3000! Are you out of your mind? Its not a Victorias Secret hangout, but most nights you can score a 7 or 8 fairly easy and for P500, what is there to complain about? I like girls who are 7's at times. They don't get picked up as much and I have the best all around sex with 7's on my foreign trips. They work harder on average in my experience. Maybe you went on a bad night, or were intimidated by the outside or the crowd. See above post. Re-attach your balls and rule the place.

Later

Mikster

i have a feeling that juniour arrived with a chip on his shoulder. i lived in manila for 9 months and had maybe two cabbies not know l.a. cafe and none who didn't know the edsa complex. he is right, for those of you who haven't been, that it is pronounced "ed sa".


hank,

it kind of depends on how you are planning to get to baguio and when you're leaving. afternoon is a bad time in terms of traffic. killing a few hours in manila might be a good idea. if you want to stop by ac just long enough to releave some pressure head for santos street. the bars there have short time rooms. if you're travleing by bus, get one that goes to the dau station, not ac. from there it's an easy trike ride (offer 50 piso, settle for no more than 70-80) to the bars of ac.

han bali,

[blue][deleted by admin][/blue] have you ever been to the rp ? "i've heard manila" ? [blue][deleted by admin][/blue] this board is for first hand knowledge exchange. please take your hatespeech elsewhere.

fd

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