Hamburg

I am a regular member of USA sex guide, but am new to international SG. I'll be travelling to Hamburg next month and have seen a lot of great info here about the FKK clubs!

Thanks everyone! There seem to be a lot of smaller places that advertise really wide services at reasonable prices, such as [url]http://www.hh-luder.de.[/url]

Anyone tried one of these types of places? Is this more of a private apt? The English translation of these sites isn't so great, so it's kind of hard to decipher some of the details.

I wonder how an English only speaker would fare trying to navigate a place like this. Also, most of the girls don't speak English. The BBBJ to completion and Anal advertised sure sound.

Enticing, though, for only 20E more than the flat 40E price.

TIA for any feedback,

Tijuana

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[url]http://youtu.be/vBIKL7I3XPQ [/url][/QUOTE]Can someone explain to me what is exactly the scam they are running? The girls look amazing. Prices are very reasonable. But not many men biting. Do the up sell? Or what do they do to earn such a bad reputation?

I've heard things like they ask extra money for taking a bra off and you can't even touch them. Etc. True?

Gentlemen,

I'll be arriving in HH on 7th December and besides sampling the female delights, I would also like to watch some football.

Do you know whether it's relatively easy to obtain a match ticket?

[QUOTE=Tjbj59;1348735]for only 20E more than the flat 40E price.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "flat 40E price"? (Or is that just an expression, the use of the word 'flat'? Generally 'flat' is used for 'flatrate' and that's not happening here.)

According to the website, you pay 40 Euros per half-hour-session with one woman, anal or Cum-in-mouth with swallowing EACH cost 20 Euros extra and for 110 Euros you get to session with three women, whether you want them all at once or one after another is up to you.

Hello,

Just a few questions I was hoping someone might be able to help with:

- Are the girls naked in FKK Babylon? Is there any FKK within Hamburg limits where the girls are naked?

- Is it generally possible to get anal sex in Hamburg?

- For someone with limited time, what is the don't-miss place in Hamburg? (preferably within the city)

[QUOTE=Jonny Jonny;1352117]- Are the girls naked in FKK Babylon? Is there any FKK within Hamburg limits where the girls are naked?[/QUOTE]I have no knowledge of the Hamburg scene aside from what I read online.

But FKK means naked! Period. And everywhere. It stands for FreiKörperKultur (= freed-body culture) and describes a general lifestyle where people like to be nude. FKK is the german term for the nudist movement which started at the beginning of the last century. That had nothing to do with sex by then. FKK generally applies to nudists and nudist communities, so regarding sex clubs it means by definition that everybody must be naked.

So at every FKK club ALL girls have to be naked or else it's no FKK!

Since I don't know about Hamburg, I can't help you with the anal situation; but I think that in such a big city, anal should be available. Maybe you should read up in the Germany FKK Clubs forum or check the german advertising sites like [url]www.kontakt24.de.[/url]

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1352253]I have no knowledge of the Hamburg scene aside from what I read online.

But FKK means naked! Period. And everywhere. It stands for FreiKörperKultur (= freed-body culture) and describes a general lifestyle where people like to be nude. FKK is the german term for the nudist movement which started at the beginning of the last century. That had nothing to do with sex by then. FKK generally applies to nudists and nudist communities, so regarding sex clubs it means by definition that everybody must be naked.

So at every FKK club ALL girls have to be naked or else it's no FKK![/QUOTE]I know Babylon and the girls are not naked. Babylon is going downhill.

Go for Atmos or the new place Harmony.

The club in Hamborg are not real FKK but more saunaclubs, where the girls are not fully naked,

Some girls are topless but most are in bikinis.

NC

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1352385]Some girls are topless but most are in bikinis.[/QUOTE]Why do they still call themselves FKK? In my book, advertising oneself as FKK and then running around with clothes or bikinis is fraudulent!

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1353025]Why do they still call themselves FKK? In my book, advertising oneself as FKK and then running around with clothes or bikinis is fraudulent![/QUOTE]It's marketing, some people doesn't better. The FKK term is misused.

So some places misuse FKK as others do with "Tabulos" or "Swingerclub".

When "Tabulos" is advertised, it's often No to this, No to that, No to AO, but they still advertise it as tabulos. I wonder what their definition of a taboo might be. Or of "less".

At some Swingerclubs, people don't even swing anymore. The term "Alles kann, nichts muß." = "Everything can, but nothing has to (happen)." which always meant that every form of sex (like anal, sandwich, DP, COF, CIM, swallowing, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], etc.) CAN happen, but doesn't necessarily have to. Nowdays it's misused by a lot of freeloading couples who think that they don't even have to fuck at all at a Swingerparty, yet the single guys are still supposed to pay for everything. Disgusting! No wonder so many clubs go down the drain. Those kinds of couples are the reason why I don't go to Swingerclubs anymore. Why pay around 100 Euros and then be lucky if you get one single alibi-fuck with the house-hoor, while the couples only want to stay amongst themselves? Compared to that, even the most expensive FKKs start to make sense. That is if they actually are FKKs and the women are actually completely naked nude!

I'm sorry, this would have been something for the General Info thread. But since it's come up here, I'm replying to it here.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1353395]Nowdays it's misused by a lot of freeloading couples who think that they don't even have to fuck at all at a Swingerparty, yet the single guys are still supposed to pay for everything. Disgusting! No wonder so many clubs go down the drain. Those kinds of couples are the reason why I don't go to Swingerclubs anymore.[/QUOTE]A swinger lover who is no longer a lover of being a swinger.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1353397]A swinger lover who is no longer a lover of being a swinger.[/QUOTE]Right, but I still love to swing! Only that I don't do it in Clubs where it is no longer possible anymore, but at the AO parties instead.

I originally picked my nickname when I needed one for an e-mail adress for all the sex-related stuff, like newsletters or a reply adress for ads I answered, for the ISG-contact-adress and such. It was the first name-variation I found that was still available. When I joined ISG, I simply used it too instead of making up a new name.

(politely!) RTFF. Look back at my recent post in this thread and that should tell you what you need to know.

Bubba.

[QUOTE=NewHaven; 1335501]Hello,

I want to visit Fkk125 and I'd like to know if there are any updates / news about this place as their website is not up to date. Wana to know All about the prices and quality / quantity of girls at the house, specially on Friday and Saturday.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1352039]What do you mean by "flat 40E price"? (Or is that just an expression, the use of the word 'flat'? Generally 'flat' is used for 'flatrate' and that's not happening here.)

According to the website, you pay 40 Euros per half-hour-session with one woman, anal or Cum-in-mouth with swallowing EACH cost 20 Euros extra and for 110 Euros you get to session with three women, whether you want them all at once or one after another is up to you.[/QUOTE]Of course you are right. It's 40E + 20E for extras at Die Firma and Blue Heaven, according to the hh-luder website. I can't get a feel for what Die Firma is like. I'm guessing you just go there, knock on the door, come in and choose from the women?

It's not a Sauna Club, but what is it? Apt? What do you do in between sessions?

The new Blue Heaven site shows a pristine looking new Sauna club type atmosphere. I'm guessing I might fare better here only speaking English.

These two places clearly advertise BBBJ as standard and CIM / COF as 20E extra. At Babylon or Atmos the BBBJ is extra and the finish isn't even offered. What gives?

Looking forward to my first visit to Hamburg next weekend and I will certainly report from an American perspective. Thanks to all of you experts for all the information.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1353395]At some Swingerclubs, people don't even swing anymore. The term "Alles kann, nichts muß." = "Everything can, but nothing has to (happen)." which always meant that every form of sex (like anal, sandwich, DP, COF, CIM, swallowing, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], etc.) CAN happen, but doesn't necessarily have to. Nowdays it's misused by a lot of freeloading couples who think that they don't even have to fuck at all at a Swingerparty, yet the single guys are still supposed to pay for everything. Disgusting! No wonder so many clubs go down the drain. Those kinds of couples are the reason why I don't go to Swingerclubs anymore. Why pay around 100 Euros and then be lucky if you get one single alibi-fuck with the house-hoor, while the couples only want to stay amongst themselves? Compared to that, even the most expensive FKKs start to make sense. That is if they actually are FKKs and the women are actually completely naked nude![/QUOTE]Very true, SL.

Seems that a lot of couples use it as a night-out away from the kids.

That way, it works out cheaper than a weekend or hotel-night away, meal, drinks, etc.

And they can still repair to a private room to 'do the business' alone.

Perhaps a new variation needed on the old motto: "Alles kann, nichts muss und die Solomaenner fuer alles zahlen"!