Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational][QUOTE=Doppel One]Dude. We are talking about hookers here, not your new virgin GF. Anything that you want it is best to come out and say it. Like going to the barbershop you don't want any misunderstanding. You want it cut short on the sides, then tell them to cut it short on the sides. Don't try to play a guessing game. As Slacker said the girls understand, "Can I fuck your ass" best. Any lovey dovey shit is going to go in one ear and out the other. And IMHO it is the hardcore girls that will do the anal. From my observation the girls straight off the bus or the middle-grounders will not do anal and will tell you to

go get a ladyboy if you want to fuck ass.[/QUOTE]
So true. I was told these exact words last Nov.

[QUOTE=Popper1]
Jackson, I am willing to make this deal. I will go around Pattaya and check hotel pricing. I will list least 30 hotels and probably far more. Thinking of going S. Pattaya, Soi Bekow, Central, Soi 8, and North Pattaya. It will realistically take me at least a week to do this. I will list names, e-mails, pricing, etc. This will be incredibly valuable information, however I want it to have a separate thread.

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Okay, here it is:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3145[/url]

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]


Hi Jackson.

Appreciate it. This will take me at least a week to get the data, and at least a week to put it together. Perhaps longer.

Am starting it now. Thank you for you confidence.




Popper
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“All you touch and all you see, Is all your life will ever be.”
-- Pink Floyd

OK, but not to be too preachy of this great holy Church I established yesterday on this forum called [b]LDs and Bar Fines are for Tourists, Suckers, and Noobs[/b], I will give an example from what happened last night.

Yesterday had dinner at one of those outside stands. Was a two eggs omelet, with onions, etc for 40 baht. As eating this extravagant meal (not bad except for the fact that they try to overcook and salt it to death) noticed was near a Thai bar. The Thai bars are really great. Almost unknown to farangs. Inside were 100 percent Thai females. All PT workers. Just began talking to a group of five gals. Asked them what they were drinking and they said whiskey shots, and they offered me a shot.

Now, this is what a LD should be -- [b]and what this new established church is about[/b] --- the girl offering farang a free drink. Now, these Thai bars are really neat. Hidden. And very very cheap for drinks. I ordered a while back tequila and there were like eight or nine shots for about 40 baht !! This place caters to the Thais, and I guess their quality of drinks not great and profit margins very small -- but for fun exceeds any go-go.

Anyway, downed the whiskey and the gals and myself had a good laugh. I could have had any of them (three of them were in their 20s and quite cute). However had to meet a friend, and gave apologies and left. And yea, only in Thailand would I leave five hot gals to meet up with a male friend.


To continue with the report, after talking ... walked back via that road which intersects entrance of Walking Street where all the massage parlors are. After midnight and the gals were leaving work. Approached one ... bla bla bla ... 500 baht great ... bla bla bla.

Gal was a hot looking 39 - 45 year old in a cute tight uniform. At hotel analed her for about 25-30 minutes (advantage of older experienced girls) and she was great with it as long as I used KY.

After she gave me a greeeeeeeeaaaattttt Thai massage. I mean, it was wonderful. I ended up giving her top dollar for a FL short time, which is 700 baht ( and sorry for ruining the market guys) but that Thai massage she gave made it all worth while.

Damn I hate Pattaya ...




Popper
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“All you touch and all you see, Is all your life will ever be.”
-- Pink Floyd

Some 10 days before actually arriving in Pattaya, I contacted DD in order to make a booking. My first choice wasn't available, so in a brief mail exchange they helped select a replacement.

It was after I confirmed that the following exchange took place:

[QUOTE=DD]Hi, you now have a provisional booking for Joy and Bang at 1830 hrs on 14 Aug for Incall 90 minutes. Please confirm your booking at least 48 hours prior to your booking date. Your full name, hotel, room number and expected check in time MUST be provided by this time to confirm your booking. Alternatively, you may confirm your booking by coming into the club and leaving a deposit. We look forward to seeing you.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ryo]No problem with confirming the booking, but since it's an IN CALL, may I ask why do you need hotel details?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DD]Hi, I understand your booking is for In-call service. Unfortunately many of our customers get a last minute case of shyness and fail to arrive for their booking. Often, the lady in question has declined other assignments to accommodate the advance booking. This is less than fair, so in their interest we request detailed confirmation information. Thanks for your understanding.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ryo]As I work myself in the service industry, I understand your predicament, and I am willing to help whichever way I can.

Unfortunately I won't be able to come leave a deposit, as I made the booking for my very first day in Thailand. So, I'm afraid I am not going to divulge my hotel details, and certainly not my name.

Prostitution in Thailand is accepted but illegal, you know better than I do, and no disrespect, but your establishment has had troubles with the law before. I certainly don't want my name in any of your records.

If there's any other way I'm open to discuss it, otherwise I'll take my chances and show up without a booking.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DD]Hi, as per your request, your booking for Joy and Bang at 1830 hrs on 14 Aug is now canceled. You are welcome to stop by the club after your arrival to see which ladies are available.[/QUOTE]Then the following day I received this message:

[QUOTE=DD]Hi, your booking for Joy and Bang at 1830 hrs on 14 Aug for Incall 90 minutes is now confirmed, we look forward to seeing you. Please notify us by phone at 087-1491996 should your itinerary change.[/QUOTE]

Finally on the day I showed up the manager on duty didn't know about my booking, then proceded to inform me that Bang wasn't available.

Now, I don't want to be too fastidious because at the end of the day I had a good time, so I can let go that they didn't know about my booking and that Bang wasn't available.

In fact I wouldn't have had a problem if they said that they couldn't take a booking without a deposit or my credit card details.

But that thing about them wanting to know my room # and my check in time? Usually when something doesn't make sense it's because there are hidden motives behind it.

Anyway, two years ago I booked Eden and Tulip, this year I booked Mango and Annies (all in BKK), and they never asked for anything.

What do you guys think?

Ryo

[QUOTE=Popper1]Hi Jackson.

Appreciate it. This will take me at least a week to get the data, and at least a week to put it together. Perhaps longer.

Am starting it now. Thank you for you confidence.




Popper
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“All you touch and all you see, Is all your life will ever be.”
-- Pink Floyd[/QUOTE]Very nice Popper. Please include into your information if they have Wifi or wired broadband (some have) in the rooms.

[QUOTE=Doppel One]I guess the question should be 'are you more likely to get a positive response to the anal question if you politely and discreetly phrase the approach in Thai rather than blurting out "can I fuck your ass?"[/QUOTE]You have to realize that for all but a very few Thais, even pretty crude English like this doesn't have the impact it does for us. You're actually more likely to embarrass them if you try to ask in Thai and get it wrong. That's one reason I seldom offer advice on how to say anything in Thai -- unless you have some grasp of the language, canned phrases in Thai just don't work as well as simple, direct English.

[QUOTE=Popper1]OK, but not to be too preachy of this great holy Church I established yesterday on this forum called [b]LDs and Bar Fines are for Tourists, Suckers, and Noobs[/b], I will give an example from what happened last night.

Yesterday had dinner at one of those outside stands. Was a two eggs omelet, with onions, etc for 40 baht. As eating this extravagant meal (not bad except for the fact that they try to overcook and salt it to death) noticed was near a Thai bar. The Thai bars are really great. Almost unknown to farangs. Inside were 100 percent Thai females. All PT workers. Just began talking to a group of five gals. Asked them what they were drinking and they said whiskey shots, and they offered me a shot.

Now, this is what a LD should be -- [b]and what this new established church is about[/b] --- the girl offering farang a free drink. Now, these Thai bars are really neat. Hidden. And very very cheap for drinks. I ordered a while back tequila and there were like eight or nine shots for about 40 baht !! This place caters to the Thais, and I guess their quality of drinks not great and profit margins very small -- but for fun exceeds any go-go.

Anyway, downed the whiskey and the gals and myself had a good laugh. I could have had any of them (three of them were in their 20s and quite cute). However had to meet a friend, and gave apologies and left. And yea, only in Thailand would I leave five hot gals to meet up with a male friend.


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“All you touch and all you see, Is all your life will ever be.”
-- Pink Floyd[/QUOTE]

Its not the Thai's that are cheating, most of the walking street bars are owned by farangs who are looking for western kinda profits margin's.

Most of the fights, pad up bills, non-performance, drugging have happened in farangs owned bars...farangs get beaten by thai's who are paid by farang owners. They are the ones who have made what pattaya is today, inflated lady drinks and beers.

What you have experienced is very true...i try to avoid farang owned bars and generally spend my time in soi 7/8/6...small small bars.
If we all boycott farang bars....the price in pattaya will go down in couple of days.

Guys support local economy..eat at street stalls for food, drink at thai owned bars....farang owned bars are like goldman scachs of bars..their profit margin keeps on going up..while rest of us mongers suffers

[QUOTE=Starchild2012]Its not the Thai's that are cheating, most of the walking street bars are owned by farangs who are looking for western kinda profits margin's.

I try to avoid farang owned bars and generally spend my time in soi 7/8/6...small small bars.
If we all boycott farang bars....the price in pattaya will go down in couple of days.

Guys support local economy..eat at street stalls for food, drink at thai owned bars....farang owned bars are like goldman scachs of bars..their profit margin keeps on going up..while rest of us mongers suffers[/QUOTE]
Star,

I agree with you that the bars on soi 7 & 8 are lively and fun. Walking down these 2 streets you are confronted with a totally different atmosphere. It is like another world compared to the high end Go Go bars off Walking Street. But the hard truth is the best looking girls (I don't know if that is important to you or not) are found in the Go Go's. When you find a really good looking girl on soi 7 or 8, the exception proves the rule. So I will continue to go to both locations to get the most out of my trip. My primary goal in visiting Pat is to have a great time with beautiful Thai girls. I don't care who owns the bar.

I totally 100% agree with you that the best Thai food in Pattaya is found in the small independently owned street stalls. Yummy!

Can anyone recommend a good soapy in Pattaya. I use to go to Sabai Dee, but no more bbbj's there.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba]Some 10 days before actually arriving in Pattaya, I contacted DD in order to make a booking. My first choice wasn't available, so in a brief mail exchange they helped select a replacement.

Finally on the day I showed up the manager on duty didn't know about my booking, then proceded to inform me that Bang wasn't available.

Now, I don't want to be too fastidious because at the end of the day I had a good time, so I can let go that they didn't know about my booking and that Bang wasn't available.[/QUOTE]Sorry you missed out on Bang my man. I fucked her in the back of Lucifer (her idea; followed her lead) for free July 2009. That girl is a true FREAK SUPREME!

[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba]...But that thing about them wanting to know my room # and my check in time? Usually when something doesn't make sense it's because there are hidden motives behind it.

Anyway, two years ago I booked Eden and Tulip, this year I booked Mango and Annies (all in BKK), and they never asked for anything.

What do you guys think?

Ryo[/QUOTE]

No reason for them to be paranoid about their patrons. Given their popularity, a no-show from a confirmed booking need not end in lost business for the waiting ladies.
May be a ploy to discourage unserious pranksters from gaming their roster -- If the jock doesn't turn up, they can call the residence to verify.

[QUOTE=Starchild2012]Most of the fights, pad up bills, non-performance, drugging have happened in farangs owned bars...farangs get beaten by thai's who are paid by farang owners. They are the ones who have made what pattaya is today, inflated lady drinks and beers.

...i try to avoid farang owned bars and generally spend my time in soi 7/8/6...small small bars. Guys support local economy..eat at street stalls for food, drink at thai owned bars....[/QUOTE]Thank you Starchild2012.

Your perspective and advice is greatly appreciated and valued. I will keenly follow it when I am in Thailand.

Hi

Can someone point me to a hotel with mirrors so you can see the action in bed - nothing like watching yourself all the way in a girl - I know the Penthouse has them...

[QUOTE=Starchild2012]
Most of the fights, pad up bills, non-performance, drugging have happened in farangs owned bars...farangs get beaten by thai's who are paid by farang owners. They are the ones who have made what pattaya is today, inflated lady drinks and beers.

What you have experienced is very true...i try to avoid farang owned bars and generally spend my time in soi 7/8/6...small small bars.
If we all boycott farang bars....the price in pattaya will go down in couple of days.

Guys support local economy..eat at street stalls for food, drink at thai owned bars....farang owned bars are like goldman scachs of bars..their profit margin keeps on going up..while rest of us mongers suffers[/QUOTE]

StarChild, I think that I agree with this statement completely. Was referring to a few of the local Thai bars in South Pattaya. Will look into those on Soi 6, 7, and 8.

Thank you.


[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]It is like another world compared to the high end Go Go bars off Walking Street. But the hard truth is the best looking girls (I don't know if that is important to you or not) are found in the Go Go's. When you find a really good looking girl on soi 7 or 8, the exception proves the rule. [/QUOTE]

Ummmm. Natty ... where do you think the GoGo bar girls goes on their nights off?? And when there, they are a freelancer (AKA: no bar fine and no lady dink). For me, it is far more fun to meet the girl on her own terms.




--Popper

[QUOTE=Starchild2012]...i try to avoid farang owned bars and generally spend my time in soi 7/8/6...small small bars.[/QUOTE]You might be surprised how many of the bars on those sois are owned by farangs.

Frankly I'm beginning to feel like I've entered an alternative universe here. Farang-owned bars being the main source of padded bills and scams? (In contrast to all those lily-white Thai-owned bars.) 'Goldman Sachs profits' from bars? (Plenty of bar owners will have a good laugh over that.) Lady drinks and barfines as sucker bait? (Maybe, just maybe, the reason they've both lasted for decades is that they serve a useful function not only for bars, but also for the working girls and even the punters . . . give that a thought.)

With all respect, it sounds like you guys are the newbs, with just enough visits here to have it All Figured Out. But do carry on.