Manila

Nice TR Mr. Enternational, don't even bother explaining yourself to these guys. And definitely don't allow them to spend your money for you. Under tip, don't tip, or leave just the right tip, it's completely up to you. I have been living in AC since 2007 and I have never had anyone upset or not come back over a tip. I didn't feel that you were boasting at all. My buddy was bragging to me that he fucked a stripper back home at a cost of $300! So it's very understandable that you are excited about paying $11 bucks to do the same.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Whooooaaaa. I never stiffed anyone. I entered into a contract for said price and after said task was completed I made good on the agreement. Don't eat me up because I did not go beyond the requirements of the contract. I did not see her going beyond to lick ass and suck toes. Business is business. If you contract a crew to fix your roof for $x and after the work is done the crew chief comes to you and says, "Actually we would like $x + 40%($x) for the job" that defies all logic to me. No matter if the original value of the job was 500 pesos or 5 million pesos. 40% is 40%. I live by the motto, "It doesn't hurt to ask." I, however, do understand that just because I ask does not mean I will not be told NO! Many mongers get service providers used to expecting extra just because they ask for extra (or don't ask in many cases). I am not one of those mongers. Call me crazy or call me Cheap Charlie. It is just MHO and My Standard Operating Procedure and it has not failed me yet.[/QUOTE]

Yea just keep rationalizing your self absorbed consept. Next time you get your roof fixied in the Philippines for almost nothing and they go above and beyond to do a great job and ask for a 75 Cent tip. Then make sure you tell them to hit the road and then bragg about how nice your roof looks on the local Home Improvement Website and how you saved 75 Cents from stiffing a poor impoverished person who is trying to survive day to day. High Five!!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]\If you contract a crew to fix your roof for $x and after the work is done the crew chief comes to you and says, "Actually we would like $x + 40%($x) for the job" that defies all logic to me. No matter if the original value of the job was 500 pesos or 5 million pesos. 40% is 40%. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I would recommend it. I went on the recommendation of Amavida in the Manila Hotels section. Be sure to make a reservation. I think they stay full. Some lady was there with more people and they didn't have a room for the people who did not have a reservation. I think the cost is 1800 pesos or so for a regular room. You have to leave a 1000 peso deposit when you check in. The breakfast is free albeit small. Since I booked for 2 people they gave me 2 coupons for breakfast in the morning. Because I was not with anyone I got the eggs, bacon, toast, and juice with 1 coupon and the chicken & rice soup and another juice with the other coupon.[/QUOTE]Mr Enternational,

Well did you tip the waitress at the resturant for having two breakfast, the way I look at it we all tip our waitress back in the US but I am sure the poor people in PI need it more than they do.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=The Hyena2]It's about time somebody called this guy out on this.

He masquerades as this successful businessman but seems not have a pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] or a window to throw it out of.

His forte is to post reports of him receiving sex for free from naive impoverished women and guys on this forum give him high fives for it and he prides himself on this. Lot of low life scum out here in cyberspace.[/QUOTE]I'll sell the BMW to pay for the pot based on your advise dude.

Love to stay and chat but I'm seeing a Filipina secretary (Jheng) tonight and another one Jain tomorrow.

As they both have jobs, they arent not so impoverished mate. And certainly not naive.

There will be a few more ladies bedded on my next Manila trip of course, and so feel free to add your high fives LOL. But then whats interesting about this board, is it seems to attract two types of people.

Those who get lots. And we all know who we are.

And those who have nothing else to do but whinge. You and Bophead being amongst my two current favourite whingers.

If either of you two pansies are getting much you surely arent reporting it here. I'll be happy to send you a few phone numbers and maybe a few chat up lines too as it seems that might beyond you both.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Mr Enternational,

Well did you tip the waitress at the resturant for having two breakfast, the way I look at it we all tip our waitress back in the US but I am sure the poor people in PI need it more than they do.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Of course. I left 50 pesos for the waiter. Although I did not see any Filipinos leaving tips.

As well as the taxi driver back to the airport. The meter read 150, but we gave him 200. It works different when a person contracts for an all-in price. I forget who it was, but, as one person said he offers the driver 225 pesos upfront to take him to the airport. Would he then give him extra on top of that prearranged price?

In my eyes a sex worker is a contractor or agent. I would not categorize them as I would say a waitress. When you see prices on a menu in a restaurant you contract with the establishment to pay that price. The payment to the person serving it to you on the part of the restaurant is minimal so they garner most of their wages from the patron in the form of tips. Would you give extra money directly to Mcdonald's after you have agreed to purchase a burger for a set amount?

And a street walker. A vast majority of them in any setting has a pimp or "boyfriend". If you agree to 500 and you throw in an extra 100 at the end of the session thinking you are being Mr. Good Deed you are not doing her any favors. ALL of the money is going to the pimp, none is going to the girl. So who are you actually doing a favor? Back in the day when I was pimping I wished a broad WOULD keep a dime of anything that was passed to her from a trick. That would have been a severe violation.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Of course. I left 50 pesos for the waiter. Although I did not see any Filipinos leaving tips.

As well as the taxi driver back to the airport. The meter read 150, but we gave him 200. It works different when a person contracts for an all-in price. I forget who it was, but, as one person said he offers the driver 225 pesos upfront to take him to the airport. Would he then give him extra on top of that prearranged price?

In my eyes a sex worker is a contractor or agent. I would not categorize them as I would say a waitress. When you see prices on a menu in a restaurant you contract with the establishment to pay that price. The payment to the person serving it to you on the part of the restaurant is minimal so they garner most of their wages from the patron in the form of tips. Would you give extra money directly to Mcdonald's after you have agreed to purchase a burger for a set amount?

And a street walker. A vast majority of them in any setting has a pimp or "boyfriend". If you agree to 500 and you throw in an extra 100 at the end of the session thinking you are being Mr. Good Deed you are not doing her any favors. ALL of the money is going to the pimp, none is going to the girl. So who are you actually doing a favor? Back in the day when I was pimping I wished a broad WOULD keep a dime of anything that was passed to her from a trick. That would have been a severe violation.[/QUOTE]To MR Enternational

I know this is your first trip to PI you go to Thailand alot and so do myself, I cannot help feeling sorry for all the people in PI, if you barfined a girl at AC most of the money go to the bar, most of this girl come from very poor familes, I understand that you know Thai girl lie alot cannot be trusted but it is the true that half of the people in PI live in poverty.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]NB

I am very wicked. And love all sorts of fun and group sex/ortgies, no hands about seeing dicks etc

For my visit to Cebu a good ISG mate is bring a series of toys (as can't buy where I live) for her that she chose. And she is onky 19 and she blames me saying I was "born naughty". Very true probably[/QUOTE]Wouldn't it be great if one of the local expats organized regular orgies the way Sly One does in Lima? I would be the first to attend.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx]I agree, I have similar thoughts re that person.

Myself, I have never been able to afford free sex. It's too expensive, LOL[/QUOTE]That is probably the most accurate statement I have read on this forum.

Free Sex is too expensive!

[QUOTE=Sxxxx]I agree, I have similar thoughts re that person.

Myself, I have never been able to afford free sex. It's too expensive, LOL[/QUOTE]Last night was with Jheng. Filipina Secretary. Went to a hotel, cost about US$30 for the hotel as we didn't overnight.

Had the standard two rounds.

Drove her home, and she nicely had her panties round her knees as she seems to love being fingered in the car.

I'd consider that as being free and not particualrly expensive but as this board shows very well, we all have different thought processes.

The cost, was hotel, plus some beers, chips, gas, oh and batteries for the vibrator that delighted her whilst I was resting between rounds.

All in all good free fun.

Poor impoverished people usualy don't tip their culture or other cultures becuse they are POOR.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Of course. I left 50 pesos for the waiter. Although I did not see any Filipinos leaving tips.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Whooooaaaa. I never stiffed anyone. I entered into a contract for said price and after said task was completed I made good on the agreement. Don't eat me up because I did not go beyond the requirements of the contract. I did not see her going beyond to lick ass and suck toes. Business is business. If you contract a crew to fix your roof for $x and after the work is done the crew chief comes to you and says, "Actually we would like $x + 40%($x) for the job" that defies all logic to me. No matter if the original value of the job was 500 pesos or 5 million pesos. 40% is 40%. I live by the motto, "It doesn't hurt to ask. " I, however, do understand that just because I ask does not mean I will not be told NO! Many mongers get service providers used to expecting extra just because they ask for extra (or don't ask in many cases). I am not one of those mongers. Call me crazy or call me Cheap Charlie. It is just MHO and My Standard Operating Procedure and it has not failed me yet.[/QUOTE]Hey Mr E, Lets recap; 1. You luckily ran into a spinner that was as cute as a button. 2. One of the best BBBJ and some of the best pussy YOU EVER HAD. 3. I fucked the shit out of her and tired her out. 4. She was just what the doctor ordered. 5. You negotiated 500 peso's for 1 hr. So 500 peso's =$11. 36, that's not very much for what you described was delivered. Did the session go over the hour? What is the going rate in Manila for short time session? Do you think your tip to her, "always use condoms" was a nice gesture for her great service? She used the little money she made from you to get back home because when she asked you for bus money, you pointed to her feet and told her to use them instead. That is some pretty low shit, but to each his own. You could have treated her better but that is not how you operate. Also.

The roof analogy is not accurate, if you paid the roofers very little (your terms, your price), they would screw you over big time and you would never know the difference until a couple years later. You should just admit that you are a cheap skate, and that's ok. You seem like a nice enough guy and your TR'S are detailed and easy to read. Don't try and reason w/ the guys who are not cheap skates and who treat people better. It's not a huge deal, after all. It balances out in the end for the girl. In a couple of months it will be Christmas time, the original 1930's movie, Scrooge, will be on TV, you might enjoy it. One way or the other. Or you can rent American Psycho, both very good movies and can be educational as well.

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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I would recommend it. I went on the recommendation of Amavida in the Manila Hotels section. Be sure to make a reservation. I think they stay full. Some lady was there with more people and they didn't have a room for the people who did not have a reservation. I think the cost is 1800 pesos or so for a regular room. You have to leave a 1000 peso deposit when you check in. The breakfast is free albeit small. Since I booked for 2 people they gave me 2 coupons for breakfast in the morning. Because I was not with anyone I got the eggs, bacon, toast, and juice with 1 coupon and the chicken & rice soup and another juice with the other coupon.[/QUOTE]Interesting. In all my forays in Philippines, never came across a hotel that issued 'coupons' but then again, I skip hotels below 1, 800, though my high end too stops at 3,500.

I know where all you guys are coming from and think it should just end on this debate as everyone has their own opinion. It reminds me of the debates that go on in Angeles about tipping the women. They get maybe 600-700 from the 1300-1500 barfine and stay the night and then some people say don't tip or 200 is more than enough and 500 is too too much. This debate will never end. This was for a short time and she didn't stay the night and got a little less than some in AC with no tip to stay the night. It is what it is, both made out.

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