Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2948440]No need to explain what you pay for me it is self explanatory. Being Asian we will fit right in.

As for BTS we might be running around my group might be close to ten is it a far walk from the BTS.

I not a clue outside of Nana area where where? We will be staying in that area one night from Pattaya. This is just one of the options that.

I want to include some of group want to hit massages places, Therma, GoGo, with this agenda and time being older a few will call it quits early this is a late night place so the brave will survive.

In regards to price I wanted to know so I can brief my cousins they have real bad habits like paying over 10,000 in many cases.

Thanks. I hope we can fit it in.[/QUOTE]You guys are better off jumping in a taxi. The area is very near chatujack if that helps. Grab two or three taxis as the BTS will shut down maybe before you head there. If your group is still big enough, you might want to consider a VIP room. I don't know the cost because I'm always alone so I never need the space. I imagine if you have 5-10 guys, you can easily split the cost for the room. Only place you can smoke is in the vip rooms too.

If you are Asian, you will fit in more. That's for sure.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2948414]I don't agree with much of what you post, but this has never been more true. I will even take this one step further. If a girl asks 2500 baht ST and you like her, regardless of location, Bangkok or Pattaya, why would you walk away from that if you only want to pay 1500 Baht? It's just a complete waste of time and energy for me to debate over 1000 Baht. If I like her I pay. If I just want to stick my dick in any hole, then ya maybe I would agree, but come on.

About Bangkok as a mongering destination, it's quite different than Pattaya. Bangkok is a normal city. The mongering areas are all spread out. The dating apps have tons of normal girls, so don't offer money for sex unless you are sure they are working girls. Otherwise a couple of screenshots later and you could find yourself in the police station in a heap of trouble. The girls in Bangkok just seem to be better all around. They dress better and take better care of themselves.

Pattaya on the other hand has this shit everywhere on every road, every corner and 90% of the girls in the Pattaya location in dating apps are working girls.

In the end, your strategy needs to change in Bangkok..[/QUOTE]This should be mandatory reading for newcomers.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2948443]Only place you can smoke is in the vip rooms too.[/QUOTE]SOLD! Non smoking club. I'll be a regular. Anyone know of other non smoking bars in Bangkok and Pattaya with decent girls?

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2948436]if you don't speak any Thai <snip> you better be able to make it fun for the girl in other ways or she will ditch you [/QUOTE]Agree. Yes guys Thai bars don't work like your Farang bars. You need to entertain these girls or they will walk. Have had it happen to me at Kiss on 3rd Road in the past and I feel I'm pretty good at entertaining girls even if I don't speak their language well (I'm about the same maturity level). It's like going to DJ bars in HCM where maybe 1% of the girls can speak a bit of English.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2948403]The place is open until 5 am so they don't mind if you don't take them, as someone else will. However, they may make an excuse after the first hour or 2 that they have to leave and then won't come back. That tip would be fine.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2948403]when I go here, everyone takes care of me. If I have any problems they are always solved in my favor. [/QUOTE]Understood. I also tip my girls, some REALLY REALLY well if I had lots of fun with them that night. I like to be treated well when I walk into a bar. Reputation in a gogo bar is everything. You're going to be ignored if girls talk about you as a Cheap Charlie and treated like a King if they know you buy lots of lady drinks in gogo bars. Since T-Ded is not a lady drink place I would simply let the girl know I will pay her well for her time (in addition to the 200 baht per hour charge). Is 1000 baht per hour per girl fair? To others they will say I'm overpaying but if I'm happy that's peanuts.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2948510]Understood. I also tip my girls, some REALLY REALLY well if I had lots of fun with them that night. I like to be treated well when I walk into a bar. Reputation in a gogo bar is everything. You're going to be ignored if girls talk about you as a Cheap Charlie and treated like a King if they know you buy lots of lady drinks in gogo bars. Since T-Ded is not a lady drink place I would simply let the girl know I will pay her well for her time (in addition to the 200 baht per hour charge). Is 1000 baht per hour per girl fair? To others they will say I'm overpaying but if I'm happy that's peanuts.[/QUOTE]The only issue I have with what you are saying is that T-Ded is a Thai bar and therefore I think it is incumbent on us visitors to spend (tip) and behave in a like manner as the locals and NOT stand out and call undue attention to ourselves. The girls will love us for tipping large, but I think we farangs will wear out our welcome fast if we act this way. Less is more.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2948510]SOLD! Non smoking club. I'll be a regular. Anyone know of other non smoking bars in Bangkok and Pattaya with decent girls?

Agree. Yes guys Thai bars don't work like your Farang bars. You need to entertain these girls or they will walk. Have had it happen to me at Kiss on 3rd Road in the past and I feel I'm pretty good at entertaining girls even if I don't speak their language well (I'm about the same maturity level). It's like going to DJ bars in HCM where maybe 1% of the girls can speak a bit of English.



Understood. I also tip my girls, some REALLY REALLY well if I had lots of fun with them that night. I like to be treated well when I walk into a bar. Reputation in a gogo bar is everything. You're going to be ignored if girls talk about you as a Cheap Charlie and treated like a King if they know you buy lots of lady drinks in gogo bars. Since T-Ded is not a lady drink place I would simply let the girl know I will pay her well for her time (in addition to the 200 baht per hour charge). Is 1000 baht per hour per girl fair? To others they will say I'm overpaying but if I'm happy that's peanuts.[/QUOTE]1000 baht per hour as a tip is more than fair LOL. You will fit in here quite nicely.in my opinion, don’t do it unless the girl agrees to go with you to the hotel though. This means don’t do it with every girl you meet right off the bat.

EverythingThai,

Thanks for the intels on this venue. I am curious how locals have fun and sex.

300 girls at 10 PM? Damn. How are T-Ded 99 talents compared to Thermae or Poseidon Massage in Hway Khuang?

I will be doing a tour with a couple Asia noobs. Would be fun to visit T-Ded 99 to sit with the girls and experience unique local flavors.

Now accepting nominations for the Prostitution Virtuoso (PrV) Awards in the following categories:

A. Best Venue to Find a Looker (I. E. 9 or 10/10).

B. Massage shop most likely to provide HJ Unsolicited (I. E. Without her first asking "You want spayshial massage?

C. Venue most likely to Hear the Guy in the Next Room Getting off.

D. Punters' Raunchiest requests of depravity (fulfilled and unfulfilled requests are accepted).

E. Best InCall Service (I. E. Looks, accuracy of advertisement, timely arrival, service, etc.)

Nominations may be made in all or just some of the categories!

Just returned from a short trip to Bangkok, and have a little feedback. (Sorry I'm struggling with formatting as I copied / pasted from another application and it sucked the formatting out).

General observations:

1. Get LINE the girls will have LINE and if you want to get in touch with them another day you can ask to add them on LINE and they will happily do so. A plus is that they usually have a picture on their profile so you get a pic of them.

A. Most girls quickly asked me to add on LINE so they could keep in touch about their schedule for the week.

2. Get the Rabbit pass for the BTS sky train. You can't spend all day in agogo and beer bars (I could not at least) and the sky train is cheap and easy to use to get around. It's 100 BHT to purchase the pass, plus whatever credit you add to it. You'll need to show your passport to get it.

3. I don't recommend a bar crawl. I was having a nice afternoon with a hottie, and she and other girls were laughing at guys who were obviously on a crawl. 'Don't think this is the first bar he had beer at' and 'he's headed to another bar to get another beer that he doesn't need' it was obvious and you will get targeted as an easy mark to buy everyone drinks.

A. LEO over other beers. Singha is not as good, though some say it's the same (it's not).

4. It's pretty safe the Tuk Tuks were the worst for likely scams (Nobody is going to give you a full city tour for 50 BHT, sorry) and you'll end up with a bar tab that's larger than you expected because you bought drinks for more than one girl. Nobody tried to pick my pocket or take my phone. The Tuk Tuk guys got a laugh when I went by because I was polite but didn't even stop to let them give their sell.

5. Hotel with girl: I brought one girl back to my room. The guy in the lobby looked askance and I said she was my guest that night. He asked if I was OK with her, and I said yes and he was happy. My hotel didn't ask her to register, probably because I wasn't bringing a girl back every day, and because I said she was ok.

6. Hotel will take care of you: If you need something (ride, tour whatever) the hotel will assist. (any good one anyway) I needed to arrange an airport taxi and they just took my info and made the arrangements. No meter involved with this as they set a price that the taxi respected, and was actually less than what I paid with the meter on the way from the airport.

7. Exchange. There was an exchange next to BTS Nana stop and associated with the bank right there. The ATM are safe (Bank ATM) and the exchange rate was really good! You'll need ID to do an exchange there.

General observation on girls and drinks: They will, on an apparent schedule, go 'cheers' and after clicking their glass against yours the girl will suck down 1/3 of the drink. After 3 of those you'll be buying another drink if you like her. Since the drinks aren't that pricey I didn't mind.

Beer bars: Best beer bars for girls that I could find were on Soi 4 near Nana Plaza entrance. There was also one on Soi 7/1. Got to be careful in these, as the girl you pick to spend time with is going to push for you to buy drinks for her friends and it adds up fast. Not much return on it with the girl I liked, but that could be because I didn't push for anything really. If you are with a girl and her 'friend' or 'aunt' attaches to the two of you RUN. You won't get any quality time with the girl as the 'friend / aunt' will be up in your face and your tab will go up very fast.

Sports bars without hostesses: Worth it. There is one on Sukhumvit (Near Nana BTS) called, of all things, 'Sports Bar'. It's a generally quiet place but worth a late night visit. I was there after midnight and there were a couple freelancers in there just chilling out, invited me to join them and just had good conversation for a while. They didn't push, but offered services if I wanted. The girls were just chill and liked to have a late night conversation, plus they were smoldering hot.

Soi Cowboy: Lots of good agogo bars here. Lots of fun. For short money you can get a hottie to sit with you and play with your cock, and of course barfine her for more. There were some cool girls I really enjoyed talking to, and the best weren't pushing for anything but an occasional drink (and they would drink slower than most girls, not going 'cheers' on the same schedule and not drinking a full 1/3 of their drink each time.) The busiest place was Crazy House, and it wasn't worth it. There were some very hot girls, but it was jammed and it was hard to find a place to sit especially with a girl. It was so tight I had a girl drinking with someone right next to me and occasionally grabbing my dick because it was right there and she was almost sitting on my lap to hang out with him. (Not sure who you were dude but that girl knew what she was about with her left hand).

Nana: Nana needs more than one paragraph.

I had read that Nana wasn't really worth it, and if you went don't go anywhere but Billboard. That's, in my opinion, not how it currently is.

Billboard: Don't bother. Yes there are plenty of girls, and many of them are very good looking. If you are into the girls with lots of surgical enhancements then ok go here. It's so packed, on a rainy Wednesday night, that there wasn't a place to sit and guys were standing looking for a place to plant themselves. It's just hectic and not worth it even if you find a girl you like you'll not get any quality time in that place.

Random (bar name): Second floor on left side. Think they had a sign out letting you know there are no ladyboys in there. If it wasn't there it was the place next door. They have a tub set into the stage! There will be about 5 girls in bikinis wiggling it on stage, and 3 of them will be quite hot. 1-2 girls at a time in the tub. In the Tub there isn't like inches of water or anything, there are little shower heads the girls pick up and wet themselves before lathering up, then use to rinse when they are done. The girls in the tub will get fully nude and wiggle around covered in bubbles for 2-3 songs (or was it 3-4?) before rinsing and leaving. These seemed to be the hotter girls. There are, no lie, some of the hottest girls I saw in Thailand working in here. My favorite had no makeup (didn't need it) and an all natural amazing body, weighing in at about 80 lbs if that. Stunning girl really and I will keep in contact with her to hook up again next time I'm there. This place can be a lot of fun and it wasn't too pushy on barfine or drinks for anyone but the girl you were with.

Lollipop: This place is fun, if you can just go with the flow. I grabbed a little hottie outside and pulled her inside to sit with her, and we just laughed at the stuff going on. Papa is like flamboyantly gay and will sometimes get up on stage for a laugh. He kissed me on the neck when I went in the toilet, just to fuck with me. Not my thing but it was funny. Girl I sat with was stunning and not at all pushy, and there were plenty of other hot girls in there. (She also weighed in at less than 80 lbs, and her hands were tiny as can be) There was one ladyboy in there who wasn't even trying to look like a girl, was just funny as shit. (No, the penis didn't come out).

/ Nana.

General on Agogo bars: Find a girl you like and sit with her, let her know you're not interested in buying other girls drinks. She (she should) let other girls know to not try you. I found a good method was to find one super hottie on the outside, and approach her directly and let her know I liked her look. I wouldn't go in the bar without her by my side, and she would happily join me for drinks and fun. This way, you don't have to tell 50+ girls 'no thank you' until you find the one you like. I didn't always use that method but it worked when I did. Case in point was Lollipop; I didn't think I was going to go in there but a stunning small girl came outside and smiled at me and I was done for. Totally worth it.

Barfine observation: There seems to be a signal between the girls and the Mama. After 1-2 drinks with some girls the Mama would come up and start talking to me about paying her barfine and taking her for the night. The Mama wasn't doing this with every guy in there I think the girls would let her know (somehow) they were good with a guy and so she would approach. Just a guess.

Legit massage places: There are like 50 within stone's throw of any spot on Sukhumvit, probably anywhere in the city. At night there will be a couple hotties outside encouraging you to come in for a massage, but it's bait and switch. The hot girls do NOT do massage, and are a little insulted if you ask them to. If you want a hot girl to give you a legit massage you are SOL I think at most of these.

Massage with fun: Yes there are plenty but I can only speak on one. Hunny Bunny. Totally worth it. Nuru massage for 90 minutes, don't go less as there are multiple aspects to the experience and it will be rushed if you get only 60. (I will book 2 hours minimum next time) I went in and had a pic from their website for a girl I wanted to see. She wasn't there but they called her and set me up with a booking for later that afternoon. Totally worth it. She was hotter in person than her (very hot) pictures and was a lot of fun. She did actually give a decent massage and the other fun was great. I went back a couple days later and there were only two girls available (most there were waiting on booked massages) but I took a shot and was glad I did. The girl was nice looking when she popped out downstairs, but was about stunning once in the room and undressed. She was great at everything that went down, and had the longest tongue I've seen on a little girl like that. She also let herself enjoy it (first girl did too).

Hotel: I spent a little more then the minimum and I'm glad I did. The breakfast spread was awesome (thai stir fry for breakfast?) and they gave me a free day (1 of every 5 was free) which brought the price down to barely more than the cheaper place with a much nicer room than I would have had.

Hope that's helpful. Also: Thanks for the encouragement to not worry about the rainy season and just go to Bangkok. It was totally worth it.

[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2922058]Rain should not deter you from making your trip. Rains do not affect day to day life of locals or tourists. Don't be in two minds, book your tickets and hotel.[/QUOTE]I just came back and as you said rainy season doesn't affect life in Bangkok. The trip was great, and my only regret is that I had to come back.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2948513]The only issue I have with what you are saying is that T-Ded is a Thai bar and therefore I think it is incumbent on us visitors to spend (tip) and behave in a like manner as the locals and NOT stand out and call undue attention to ourselves. The girls will love us for tipping large, but I think we farangs will wear out our welcome fast if we act this way. Less is more.[/QUOTE]eThai did already mention there are many Chinese customers there and we all know how they throw money around at gogo bars, literally. When someone mentions a lot of Chinese I figure the market is already ruined. I do understand what you're saying though. I'll lower my tip to 800 and say uncle Axel said so <insert Grin emoji>. I've had my share of dirty looks from Thai men in Thai bars hoarding the girls. It's amazing how many girls show up at your table when they see you're generous.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2948513]The only issue I have with what you are saying is that T-Ded is a Thai bar and therefore I think it is incumbent on us visitors to spend (tip) and behave in a like manner as the locals and NOT stand out and call undue attention to ourselves. The girls will love us for tipping large, but I think we farangs will wear out our welcome fast if we act this way. Less is more.[/QUOTE]I've got news for you. No matter what you do there, if you are a foreigner, you will stand out. About tipping, what makes you think the Thais don't tip? Do you think Thai people don't have money enough so they can't tip. Wrong. I know Thai people who can buy and sell most foreigners. This is a Thai bar, but not a bottom of the barrel Thai bar. All those girls would not work there if people didn't spend money. For example, if you go to a shit hole Thai karaoke in a small, neighborhood, then yes, the Thai customers are cheap. T-Ded is a huge club. You wouldn't know it because the 2nd half is hidden down a small entrance corridor on the way to the toilets. They have like 10 momasons to handle all the girls. They are paying the police as they are connected like crazy. This place makes a ton of money. I have met many Thai friends in there and they all tip. Then there are the Chinese. They also tip.

Therefore, I dont quite understand why we would wear out our welcome because we tip. If your theory was right, I would no longer be going here right? Guess what? I have been going to T-Ded 99 for 10 years, How does that grab ya. There goes your theory right down the toilet. Lol

Then there are other Thai clubs in Bangkok. There are many Thai clubs, such as Marock, the Pimp, Dubai club and so on. These places have Thai people who spend a ton of money on the girls, including giving big tips.
I am curious to know, have you even been to a Thai PR club or Thai go go like T-Ded 99 or any of the other big Thai adult entertainment clubs in Bangkok. I think not. The little small sit holes are not what I am referring to and I’m not talking about Pattaya either. This is Bangkok right?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2948559]eThai did already mention there are many Chinese customers there and we all know how they throw money around at gogo bars, literally. When someone mentions a lot of Chinese I figure the market is already ruined. I do understand what you're saying though. I'll lower my tip to 800 and say uncle Axel said so <insert Grin emoji>. I've had my share of dirty looks from Thai men in Thai bars hoarding the girls. It's amazing how many girls show up at your table when they see you're generous.[/QUOTE]You won't have any problem with that here as there are plenty of girls to go around. What will happen is that the girls who walk around giving lap dances will come up to you trying to entice you for a 100 baht lap dance. This is their form of lady drinks if that makes sense. I never waste my time with them as they are the more experienced girls. I stick to the younger and more green girls. I have never seen a Thai man and a foreigner getting into anything here. Everyone keeps to themselves and they are friendly if they do talk to you.

[QUOTE=TKOman;2948546]Now accepting nominations for the Prostitution Virtuoso (PrV) Awards in the following categories:

A. Best Venue to Find a Looker (I. E. 9 or 10/10).

B. Massage shop most likely to provide HJ Unsolicited (I. E. Without her first asking "You want spayshial massage?

C. Venue most likely to Hear the Guy in the Next Room Getting off.

D. Punters' Raunchiest requests of depravity (fulfilled and unfulfilled requests are accepted).

E. Best InCall Service (I. E. Looks, accuracy of advertisement, timely arrival, service, etc.)

Nominations may be made in all or just some of the categories![/QUOTE]I don't like your categories LOL. They are all loaded with answers you want to know. Should be like this.

1. Best go go- Crazy House.

2. Best gents club-The Pimp.

3. Best soapy massage-Poseidon Entertainment Complex.

4 Best PSE massage- now Snow White.

5. Best BJ bar-not a consistently good one in BKK anymore.

6. Best FL source-Thermae.

7. Best legit massage with happy ending- don't know.

8. Dirtiest club- there isn't one in Bangkok go to Pattaya and go to Maggie Mays

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2948667]I don't like your categories LOL. They are all loaded with answers you want to know. Should be like this.

1. Best go go- Crazy House.

2. Best gents club-The Pimp.

3. Best soapy massage-Poseidon Entertainment Complex.

4 Best PSE massage- now Snow White.

5. Best BJ bar-not a consistently good one in BKK anymore.

6. Best FL source-Thermae.

7. Best legit massage with happy ending- don't know.

8. Dirtiest club- there isn't one in Bangkok go to Pattaya and go to Maggie Mays[/QUOTE]My personal rotation (last time in June). Bunnys, Billboard, Geisha, Twister, Thermae.

Contrary to the newbie who gave a good summary of the scene, Billboard has the hottest and sluttiest girls. Thats why it is packed. Random is meh. Twisters has some real scrawny newbies, that's where they start I think.

Fellow mongers. I will be stopping in BK for 2/3 days in November with a possible day in Pattaya to experience the scene there which I have read so much about. Will be sight seeing in BK for the most part but trying to sneak in some mongering time. I am a risk averse person and want to stick to my hotel outcall - 2 HR ST like sessions. I know it is expensive and frowned upon here, I want to keep it hassle and stress free for myself.

Please advise if there are few reliable good sites to get good independent or even agency contacts. Google is turning up a few but I am not sure of the reliability. Accuracy of photos, service and pricing in there. Figured I will check in here. First time there, very excited but equally nervous.