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[QUOTE=SBTiger;2955833]Who is specifically offering 3-somes anyway in Bangkok?

Price for extra can vary 50% - 150% (in German FKKs lesbian is extra over and above time - 150%.)

Here now in BKK. After some years. Sort of bit disappointing start. Too crowded, prices have skyrocketed, service has plummeted, and the Arab invasion.

Is Thermae a good bet.

Tips welcome.[/QUOTE]Targeting Thermae on my next visit on day after tomorrow. Got few friends from TF too. On financial side TF is better but chances of hit and miss. In final round have to go for VC and if things are not favourable move to Thermae. Thinking Mondays are not much active in Thermae, but will try the luck too. Why BF and LDs, go straight to girls for twosome or threesome.

Thanks for a very good report on what goes on in Tded-99. Would take wingmen away from Nana Plaza a night to sample local flavors.

What other local Thai working class bars worth visiting?

FIWFANS independents may be rejects by agencies. Girls, who look worse and weigh significant heavier than their pics, should be reported.

Agencies vet info by their girls so they are more reliable. The half dozen FIWFANS girls I bagged all look better in person than in pics. They also act nice, sweet, sexy, much more so than bar girls. Only 1 FIWFANS girl work out of a hotel in a Muslim neighborhood far out on the East side. Her room was so messy with clothes and food everywhere, like she lived there a long time, turned me off.

Agency girls said they have to pay 1,500 bahts a day for the hotel room off Sukh 55.

[QUOTE=ShyBoy143;2955782]Fiwfans: Tried 3 incalls. 1 was terrible, 1 was good, 1 was amazing.

1. Independent / no agency: had a 40 min option for 800 baht so got that one. Agreed place and time and arrived. Girl was 3 x the weight her pictures indicated, and quite unpleasant to look at. I have very low standards, but this wasn't going to work even for me. Had a quick BJ, bit rimming and left in 20 minutes.

2. An agency (can share in PM, not sure it is ok to reveal in post) - Shortest option was 70 minutes, but I went with 100 min because it made much more sense. Surprisingly, girl was same as picture, young, cute pretty face and eyes, big boobs. Though she had put on a bit of weight below her waist, but not in a bad way. She spoke English too, and was glad to practice. I extended it to 3 hrs total 15 minutes after arriving and I think it cost 3 K or thereabouts. Drank and chatted for the first hour, then she took the lead. Fairly standard process. Clean up, oral, riding. She was skilled and was acting like she was into it pretty well. BBFSCIP was available for +2 K, I declined. Enjoyed myself. WIR. Yes, not a bad option to have.

3. Same agency, other girl: Will keep it short. Smoked pot and drank 2 beers together. 2 hours =2 K + A level = +1 K. Decent looking (same as photo), excellent job skills and work ethic. Amazing. WIR: Yes, great for a no fuss all access quicky.

Fiwfans reflections: Basically a hit or miss so keep low expectations. But great VFM if you find a gem. Spend a lot of time browsing / translating / reading reviews. I'd rather strike out on one fiwfans, book another right after and go than find a girl at a Suk beer bar these days TBH.

Tded-99: Was curious reading the discussion here (Thanks for FR K'Everything Thai). Went alone (long term expat, but speak very little Thai). As luck would have it, my cheap grab car booking was fulfilled by a big black SUV so I received a VIP welcome right at the entrance (A blazer opened doors, and gave me a 10 min "tour" of the place, his 2 lackeys walking meekly behind us). I had no intention of ST / LT, but within 5 minutes of being here, I understood that revealing this information will lead to a very boring night, so didn't say anything. Got myself a private room (I think 150/ HR), ordered a premium whisky bottle (1300, incl mixers iirc) + some snacks for the table (about 500). Manager asked about girls, I said get drinks first. Had a couple of drinks with manager guy to get more info. Basically ST is the only way for the girls to make any substantial money as room + company / hour is dirt cheap and no lady drinks. I am doubtful about 2 things- 1. Not sure if there are 2 separate classes of private karaoke rooms or not 2. Not sure if stage girls and other girls are strictly segregated and each having different boundaries for what they can offer.

Anyway, eventually called 4 girls in. They were meek and shy at first, but opened up soon enough. I insinuated that I can have only 2ST so whoever proves themselves / seduces me gets to go. That got things going. Nothing special enough to write about. Positive or negative. Just a decent drinking experience with few decent looking WGs. Bit of hand / mouth action, lots of touching / showing etc. The stage girls would walk into the room once every 15-20 minutes offering lap dances for 100 baht. I didn't refuse a single one, mainly to get a closer look at the stage talent. I think I had 10-15. The dance itself is nothing special, but for 100 baht, its a no brainer. Full access and they will motorboat you / dry hump you for 3-5 minutes. Definitely at least 2 were stunners. Like local TV / billboard ad level hot. Others worth mentioning- 2 girls had glasses on, and were doing the whole nerdy girl / librarian vibe (as much as their skimpy bikiny would allow). 1 proper tomboy. 1 Asian babydoll, 1 BBW MILF. I don't care much for looks so I am not going to compare this to other gogo's, but definitely decent looking girls, and definitely younger than other places. In the common / stage area, I think the dancers entertain specific requests for 100 baht, like a specific pose / move you want them to do, lap dance, nude twerking close to your table etc.

Although, this place definitely isn't for everyone, and I fully understand reason for mixed reviews in past discussion. I think being well versed in local Thai bar / nightlife etiquette is a minimum requirement to have a good time here. They are trying to extract as much money as possible from you (as any other gogo) and being able to handle it in a Thai way (save both face + non confrontational + make it more of a joke + be firm and clear) is essential to have a good time.

STs do seem interesting here. The manager mentioned not all girls will go, but most would go, and rate is same for any girl for ST - 2500 all incl. I quite like this. Hate the bargaining with the girl in suk etc. Next time I will try this.

Damages: I spent Total 6 or 7 K: Drinks: 1500, Food: 700, Room: 450 (they discounted voluntarily 150 although I was 25 minutes over), Company: 900 (3 X3 X100), lapdances 1300 (100*13), Tips: 1500 (mainly because girls were visibly pissed / disappointed because I didn't ST so gave 400 each). Other 300 to waiter etc.

WIR: Maybe. My local Thai working class bar is much more fun for much cheaper. (taxi driver would be a high spender kind of bar).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2955810]Buddy, don't put all natives in one basket. One state of India may be having four or five fold of population of your whole country. In developed countries people living shit holes are not having pretty fragrance. People will improve but give some time.[/QUOTE]It's genetic, can't be fixed with bathing. I got a Nuru massage at Aya last night and the girls said they don't like Indian guys because they smell bad even after showering right in front of them.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;2955882]I have booked / paid hotel in Bangkok- but let me see.

Which place (s) in Pattaya, how much.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I live in Bangkok full time as I now rent out my Pattaya condo as I am finished growing my business there. Its runs by itself now. However, I still go back to Pattaya often for meetings and mongering. I sometimes grab a hotel room for one night and then go back. You are here to have fun, so who cares if you pay for your BKK room and Pattaya for one night. A good reason not to prepay and plan so much right? However, if you are dead set on not doing this, then do what I do. More often than not, I do a day trip to Pattaya. Then come back. Do your threesome in a gents club and come back after. Buses 131 Baht each way and they run 21 hours out of 24 hours per day. Taxis are cheap starting at 1200 Baht +++ each way.

For Bangkok threesomes, like I said, go to Tulip and Snow White. Tell them what you want and they will recommend girls. Same in Nana and Soi Cowboy and Patpong. Buy the Moma Son a drink and give her a small tip. She will then recommend the two girls that do threesomes in the go go bar.

[QUOTE=ShyBoy143;2955782]Fiwfans: Tried 3 incalls. 1 was terrible, 1 was good, 1 was amazing.


Tded-99: Was curious reading the discussion here (Thanks for FR K'Everything Thai). Went alone (long term expat, but speak very little Thai). As luck would have it, my cheap grab car booking was fulfilled by a big black SUV so I received a VIP welcome right at the entrance (A blazer opened doors, and gave me a 10 min "tour" of the place, his 2 lackeys walking meekly behind us). I had no intention of ST / LT, but within 5 minutes of being here, [/QUOTE]Great report, in particular about Tded-99. Sounds like you handled it good, taking into account that you were not going to go with any girl.

I've never "ordered in" from fiwfans (and I don't think there's any problem mentioning the agency here, though I think only the specific girl is of interest, not the agency), but yeah, it's a hit and miss.

If I was still living in Thailand I'd probably take the time to figure out how to set up an uncensored fiwfans rating site, linking to girls on the real site, so we could not waste time on duds. I think Pattaya has something similar for thaifriendly freelancers.

I'd recommend trying to rate the girls you went with on the existing fiwfans site however (you can do it in English). Takes a bit of reading / practice to figure out how to give a bad rating without the review getting deleted, but at least you might help the next brother avoid a dud, and give a good girl some extra customers.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;2955833]Who is specifically offering 3-somes anyway in Bangkok?

Price for extra can vary 50% - 150% (in German FKKs lesbian is extra over and above time - 150%.)

Here now in BKK. After some years. Sort of bit disappointing start. Too crowded, prices have skyrocketed, service has plummeted, and the Arab invasion.

Is Thermae a good bet.

Tips welcome.[/QUOTE]Threesomes are on offer in the old Eden Club now called Fern Bar, Soi 7/1.

[QUOTE=ShyBoy143;2955782]

Tded-99: Was curious reading the discussion here (Thanks for FR K'Everything Thai). Went alone (long term expat, but speak very little Thai). As luck would have it, my cheap grab car booking was fulfilled by a big black SUV so I received a VIP welcome right at the entrance (A blazer opened doors, and gave me a 10 min "tour" of the place, his 2 lackeys walking meekly behind us). I had no intention of ST / LT, but within 5 minutes of being here, I understood that revealing this information will lead to a very boring night, so didn't say anything. Got myself a private room (I think 150/ HR), ordered a premium whisky bottle (1300, incl mixers iirc) + some snacks for the table (about 500). Manager asked about girls, I said get drinks first. Had a couple of drinks with manager guy to get more info. Basically ST is the only way for the girls to make any substantial money as room + company / hour is dirt cheap and no lady drinks. I am doubtful about 2 things- 1. Not sure if there are 2 separate classes of private karaoke rooms or not 2. Not sure if stage girls and other girls are strictly segregated and each having different boundaries for what they can offer.

Anyway, eventually called 4 girls in. They were meek and shy at first, but opened up soon enough. I insinuated that I can have only 2ST so whoever proves themselves / seduces me gets to go. That got things going. Nothing special enough to write about. Positive or negative. Just a decent drinking experience with few decent looking WGs. Bit of hand / mouth action, lots of touching / showing etc. The stage girls would walk into the room once every 15-20 minutes offering lap dances for 100 baht. I didn't refuse a single one, mainly to get a closer look at the stage talent. I think I had 10-15. The dance itself is nothing special, but for 100 baht, its a no brainer. Full access and they will motorboat you / dry hump you for 3-5 minutes. Definitely at least 2 were stunners. Like local TV / billboard ad level hot. Others worth mentioning- 2 girls had glasses on, and were doing the whole nerdy girl / librarian vibe (as much as their skimpy bikiny would allow). 1 proper tomboy. 1 Asian babydoll, 1 BBW MILF. I don't care much for looks so I am not going to compare this to other gogo's, but definitely decent looking girls, and definitely younger than other places. In the common / stage area, I think the dancers entertain specific requests for 100 baht, like a specific pose / move you want them to do, lap dance, nude twerking close to your table etc.

Although, this place definitely isn't for everyone, and I fully understand reason for mixed reviews in past discussion. I think being well versed in local Thai bar / nightlife etiquette is a minimum requirement to have a good time here. They are trying to extract as much money as possible from you (as any other gogo) and being able to handle it in a Thai way (save both face + non confrontational + make it more of a joke + be firm and clear) is essential to have a good time.

STs do seem interesting here. The manager mentioned not all girls will go, but most would go, and rate is same for any girl for ST - 2500 all incl. I quite like this. Hate the bargaining with the girl in suk etc. Next time I will try this.

Damages: I spent Total 6 or 7 K: Drinks: 1500, Food: 700, Room: 450 (they discounted voluntarily 150 although I was 25 minutes over), Company: 900 (3 X3 X100), lapdances 1300 (100*13), Tips: 1500 (mainly because girls were visibly pissed / disappointed because I didn't ST so gave 400 each). Other 300 to waiter etc.

WIR: Maybe. My local Thai working class bar is much more fun for much cheaper. (taxi driver would be a high spender kind of bar).[/QUOTE]Great report on T-Ded 99. I never get the lap dances and I always get a ST while I am there. Last week when I was there, a Chinese guy was exiting the ST hotel at the same time as me with two ladies. Therefore, threesomes also available.

You are right for this being a high end place where Thai are considered, but for the same experience you had here, it would cost you double in Soi Cowboy or Nana plaza, its great value. The guys are lucky you took the time to add this report. I will add it to the reports of distinction section too.

You are right that knowing Thai goes a long way. If you take the time to learn, you will notice a huge difference in your experience, it will be 1 million times better.

Just wanted to share with the community as many of my questions were answered previously. Not going to go into too much detail, as it wouldn't offer anything new or too much info due to so many posts on here. Nana Plaza club is where many of the Nana girls go after it closes, so you can always go there for those girls cheaper afterwards. Nana club is literraly right across the street from Nana Plaza, there's even escalators to take you to the club on the 2nd floor. Also, check out Mixx club, it has many freelancers (not just Thai, but a few other ethnicities). Girls took me and my friends to some other after party club with more girls, don't remember the name. One late night (after 1 am) I got super lazy but horny and didn't want to leave my room to get a girl. Was able to find a Cambodian to come over and a Laos girl right after her via TF. Sucks that TG doesn't have the "People Nearby" option anymore, because that would've been another great resource to pull from. Whatever mongering plans you make, don't be discouraged if it doesn't work out and always have a plan be. Know that plans see. Z can be achieved by just going with the flow and see where the night takes you. If you don't get any action or go home alone for the night then it's because YOU yourself chose to, as I've learned its impossible to keep your dick dry for less than 8 hours while there.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2956019]Thanks for a very good report on what goes on in Tded-99. Would take wingmen away from Nana Plaza a night to sample local flavors.

What other local Thai working class bars worth visiting?

FIWFANS independents may be rejects by agencies. Girls, who look worse and weigh significant heavier than their pics, should be reported.

Agencies vet info by their girls so they are more reliable. The half dozen FIWFANS girls I bagged all look better in person than in pics. They also act nice, sweet, sexy, much more so than bar girls. Only 1 FIWFANS girl work out of a hotel in a Muslim neighborhood far out on the East side. Her room was so messy with clothes and food everywhere, like she lived there a long time, turned me off.

Agency girls said they have to pay 1,500 bahts a day for the hotel room off Sukh 55.[/QUOTE]On the same road as T-Ded 99 there are 4 other bars. Then as you go along all the way to Ratchada, you will see many small bars and KTVs that cater to the locals.

As for your assumptions on Fiw Fans girls, that is not the case. Some girls don't want to work in bars. Others switch back and forth depending on how the money is at either options. Some work Fiw Fans if the bar is closed for a no drinking day. It's either Fiw fans, a Bangkok Gents club, A Thai bar like T-Ded 99 or a Thai massage place geared for the locals. not sure what agencies you are talking about, but there are not Escort agencies for Thais as you might think. Any agency for local Thais operate on these Thai only sideline websites that are a mix of independents and agencies. Fiw fans is not the place for the Thai girl rejects that agencies don't want. Most of the agencies operate on these websites. You may think you are chatting with the girl, but in reality, it's their admin for the agency with multiple line accounts, one for each girl they sell.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2956073]Great report, in particular about Tded-99. Sounds like you handled it good, taking into account that you were not going to go with any girl.

I've never "ordered in" from fiwfans (and I don't think there's any problem mentioning the agency here, though I think only the specific girl is of interest, not the agency), but yeah, it's a hit and miss.

If I was still living in Thailand I'd probably take the time to figure out how to set up an uncensored fiwfans rating site, linking to girls on the real site, so we could not waste time on duds. I think Pattaya has something similar for thaifriendly freelancers.

I'd recommend trying to rate the girls you went with on the existing fiwfans site however (you can do it in English). Takes a bit of reading / practice to figure out how to give a bad rating without the review getting deleted, but at least you might help the next brother avoid a dud, and give a good girl some extra customers.[/QUOTE]1. Apologies if I caused any confusion because of my poor vocabulary. I went to all 3, not other way around (AFAIK Incall=Payer go to provider location).

2. I'm not going to build a review site or a rating system, just not worth the time or effort for me (I am really really time poor). I know how to navigate this town, last few FRs were more of a charity project than anything else.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2956083]Great report on T-Ded 99. I never get the lap dances and I always get a ST while I am there. Last week when I was there, a Chinese guy was exiting the ST hotel at the same time as me with two ladies. Therefore, threesomes also available.

You are right for this being a high end place where Thai are considered, but for the same experience you had here, it would cost you double in Soi Cowboy or Nana plaza, its great value. The guys are lucky you took the time to add this report. I will add it to the reports of distinction section too.

You are right that knowing Thai goes a long way. If you take the time to learn, you will notice a huge difference in your experience, it will be 1 million times better.[/QUOTE]1. For drinking / hanging out with scantily clad females. I think Tded is 3-4 x better VFM / cheaper than the typical foreigner oriented gogo's.

2. IMHO, language is far less important than a keen understanding of local etiquette / social customs specific to such settings. I could never dream of learning as many languages as would be needed for my past experiences, but 2-3 hours people watching at a popular local cafe / bar (anytime you visit any new city) and sincerely people watching for inter-gender interactions is a huge value boost.

3. By local working class, I meant the type of bars where taxi drivers are high rollers. They don't exist on google maps or so, but if you live here, take a random walk around the less rich looking streets around your place after 9 pm, you will find them. 1/2 k is max I have spent at such places for an experience similar / exceeding what I had at Tded (Sans the private room). Another class between Tded and my nasty preferences also exists. Like large open air live music hostess bars. Been 3/4 years since I went to one of those.

[QUOTE=ShyBoy143;2956117]1. Apologies if I caused any confusion because of my poor vocabulary. I went to all 3, not other way around (AFAIK Incall=Payer go to provider location).

2. I'm not going to build a review site or a rating system, just not worth the time or effort for me (I am really really time poor). I know how to navigate this town, last few FRs were more of a charity project than anything else.[/QUOTE]No worries, your terminology was right, it was I who was confused.

I agree with you on two and feel the same, but if I was still living in Thailand I'd probably find it worthwhile to spend a few days figuring out how to do that.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2956109]Just wanted to share with the community as many of my questions were answered previously. Not going to go into too much detail, as it wouldn't offer anything new or too much info due to so many posts on here. Nana Plaza club is where many of the Nana girls go after it closes, so you can always go there for those girls cheaper afterwards. Nana club is literraly right across the street from Nana Plaza, there's even escalators to take you to the club on the 2nd floor. Also, check out Mixx club, it has many freelancers (not just Thai, but a few other ethnicities). Girls took me and my friends to some other after party club with more girls, don't remember the name. One late night (after 1 am) I got super lazy but horny and didn't want to leave my room to get a girl. Was able to find a Cambodian to come over and a Laos girl right after her via TF. Sucks that TG doesn't have the "People Nearby" option anymore, because that would've been another great resource to pull from. Whatever mongering plans you make, don't be discouraged if it doesn't work out and always have a plan be. Know that plans see. Z can be achieved by just going with the flow and see where the night takes you. If you don't get any action or go home alone for the night then it's because YOU yourself chose to, as I've learned its impossible to keep your dick dry for less than 8 hours while there.[/QUOTE]Good. Tell us more about your time at Mixx.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2956011]Targeting Thermae on my next visit on day after tomorrow. Got few friends from TF too. On financial side TF is better but chances of hit and miss. In final round have to go for VC and if things are not favourable move to Thermae. Thinking Mondays are not much active in Thermae, but will try the luck too. Why BF and LDs, go straight to girls for twosome or threesome.[/QUOTE]I tried Thermae (opens at 8 only). It is an enormous crazy zoo. Too many girls, most not great quality. Based on huge crowd very difficult to navigate. I negotiated a ST.

Tried a bit TF - no luck - I think one needs sign up etc.

Detailed report later.

Is Khaosan Rd worth exploring or Sukhumvit already has it all (the good and the bad n ugly).