Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2956835]I would hardly ever disagree with the GOAT and tend to lean on his side here. I've got almost 30 years of Thermae and it used to be a party zone. There used to be a cop that worked there, remember him Goat? Younger guy with the high and tight? But they arent interactive anymore, and don't party, probably because its all Chinese and they don't know how to party with girls like 50 farangs do, and there are times I'm the only farang in the place.

I have no problem getting what I want, and if maybe their performance is not the same as it was during the old days, neither is mine.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I remember that dude, we nicknamed him Siam Johnson, and also the older cop that used to walk around occasionally. On the rare times I stop by it's always good to say Hello, to Somchsi, he was always the one that waited on us. And he always asks about my older friend who moved back to the States several years ago. I probably had more fun in there than any place in Bangkok save midnight before it was bought by the Arab and Cactus during its hey day. I really miss those days. You also had a collection of some of the most interesting expats in Bangkok. Many of the SE Asian writers who many of you have read would hang out there several nights a week. There would always be people you would recognize there.

If you were a regular many of the gals there with know exactly what you liked and what you wanted before you even went with them, because they all shared information about the denizens who frequented the place. It was kind of funny.

One of my favorite memories is this girl, I think her name was Bo. She was in her late twenties and one hell of a performer. She didn't come very often but when she did we just make eye contact and head out the door together. One night I walked in and she came up to me and said we're going tonight because I'm getting married tomorrow. I was like, okay. Had a wonderful sash. Didn't see her for about a year and then walked in and saw her sitting with a late middle-aged dude. She introduced him as her husband. We talked for a while and he said you have to come over for dinner one night, but you can't eat what you used to. We were both rolling on the floor.

It was really wonderful when they had the short time hotel behind Clinton plaza. I remember on several occasions a girl saying go with you and we headed out of Thermae to the ST hotel at Clinton and didn't exchange names until after the deed was done. And remember there used to be tuk-tuks parked outside? I'd roll out, jump into one, and they already knew the way home. A much different Bangkok.

I think it's fantastic that you can still find what you're looking for there, but also the scene tends to run a bit late for me these days. It's usually online or oilies for me late afternoon early evening, then a nice dinner somewhere with friends, followed by a feel really good craft beers and our usual place, then home by 10:00. The old man gets up pretty early to drag his butt to the gym.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2956948]Depends. What do I look like?[/QUOTE]Hmm I'm not good at describing people but I do remember this guy, if it was you, showing nudes of a lady he was with in my last trip around April LOL. Think he kind of saw me peeking as he was showing his friend hah. IIRC he had glasses and around 5 ft 6 ish. Your inbox was full or else I would have just messaged you there.

First time soloing trip in BKK for a few days, mostly staying in Nana plaza area. My prev experience was only in Angeles city (for 3 weeks), so I am still pretty fresh, so all this stuff might already been obvious to many of you, apologies if I am beating a deadhorse here.

My thoughts and reflections about BKK vs Angeles.

Angeles to me was more accessible, we mostly hang out in XS, we got to know the mamasan quite well, it was a group of us, so we did spent and got the VIP? Exp, my other friends are frequent mongers so they knew the lay. Just lurking around the forum, I guess its the fact that the girls talk amongst themselves, esp when a group of guys who are just fun to be around and spend the money. I really enjoyed the exp, we ended up taking the same girls back mostly, and I really enjoyed the GFE + the intimacy, which is interesting because I thought I'd pick a different girl to fuck every night. I ended up picking the hottest girl (imo) and taking her back.

With that context, coming to BKK, solo albeit was so different.

- I mostly stuck to Nana plaza, as this was the most accessible since all of the clubs were close together. The vibes reminded me of walking street on angeles. I did find the rainbow club had the best line up (varies night by night).

- for the first 2 nights, I tried hang out w a few girls whom I thought were cute, but there wasnt that much chemisty (you might call me stupid / naive here, be / see who gives a fuck about chemistry when you are just trying to bang the hottest girl here bust a nut, but just sticking my dick in pussy and cum is just somewhat above masturbating to me).

- the other thing were just talking to the main mamasan + buying some drinks to build rapport (apparently all of the waitress in orange is a mamasan, but there is 2 - 3 boss in diff cloth that patrol around).

- Mamasan in that rainbow club was less helpful than I'd liked (recommand girls and about their background), but I did build rapport with them (they are still just people trying to have fun and dick around).

- I figured that if I was at a club at home, you buy a drink for a girl who might just leave for the same money, but here I get sit and play with her and pay for her time, why the fuck not.

- some girls order 2 drink combo right off the bat (shot + chaser), if you are not careful, your bills rack up, also good to say no early and swap girls if there is no chemisty (some girls don't fucking talk and they just sit there and dance).

- I found out I am bad at picking girls (I picked out attractive girls, some where good dancing), so alot of experimentation there and many drinks later.

- I read here you want to pick a girl that picks you (make fuck me eye contacts, etc) but it was hard to distinguish if they just wanted me to dispense some cash or wanted hang (you can argue its all moot point because we are just all walking ATMs for them).

- I did found a girl (7. 5) that did want to fuck my brains out (she only asked for 1 or 2 drinks for the hour and half there and there was some dirty action on the couch, I ended up giving her the reminder of my cash as a tip bonus, figured that money prob woulda went to drinks anyways).

- I think I was really chasing the GFE feeling from my trip in angeles, cout not find someone that was superhot + had chemisty.

Thai sidelines.

- I figured that if we are just doing quick fucks, ill try my hands at sidelines since all of the pictures online look hot.

- reality check when I met the first girl, fuck me for forgetting photoshop and beautify apps (rookie ass move), the picture online were 8. 5, but in person, she was atleast a few years older and 10 kg heavier. Shoulda just turned around and left, but I marched on, her service was good, but I wanted to quickly finish. 1500 damage.

- I figured that was maybe a bad apple, so I tried 6-7 other girls, here is what I gathered.

- drop atleast 1 or 2 grade from the pictures online, its mostly the same girl, but either little make up or older etc.

- arrangement was easy, but taxi there and back is a pain is the ass (30-40 min) each way, huge waste of time.

- some girls where enthusiastic, but I met this one girl, she looked like she 200% didn't want to be there, deadpan face, no smile. I didn't even finish, just left.

- it was so much more transactional than gogobars christ, and I really didn't like that.

- good if you want a quick fuck, but honestly at this point, the effort is almost not worth it.

- should try to aim for "new arrival" girls on the sites, or girls that are 20-21, older age are hit and miss.

Back to Nana.

- I figured that the premium I pay at gogo bar, is I get to see the goods before I decide and can talk to see if there is chemistry.

- went back to the same bar at usual spot (mamsan did remember). I was not focusing on girls that I thought would have chemistry, still shit at picking, but I picked up a girl who actually looked like a girl I knew whom I had a crush on, she was talktive and and more alive. Took her back, short term, she wanted 5 k, but mamasan gave me 4 k.

- went back the next day, the same girl immediately asked to sit. I declined politely as I wanted to try some one new. I ended up eying this girl who was having a blast up there w 2 of her friends up there, she was hella hot too, called her down and immediately knew I made the right choice (thank fuck, cause I suck at picking).

- we ended up having alot of chemisty and she was a really fun girl, she danced alot and was just goofy, I asked to take her out, she said 4 k, but I can pay at hotel, so I pay the barfine and take her back. Already 2 am).

- we go back to room, make out and have nice fuck, she said that she need wanted to pick up her stuff from the bar (hinting she wanted to stay over). I told her I should pay her before she leaves, she nods and I hand over the money (I ended up giving her 3 k because I made a mistake, but she didn't seem to be bothered, I only realize this the morning after, which then I gave her another 1. 5). I walk and get the shit and we go back to hotel to sleep.

- she hangs around until 3 pm the next day, then tells me she has to go get ready for work, and ask If ill come. I told her I would.

- 8/9/10 PM comes around, I had to finish some work stuff, she asks me if I am coming cause her feet were hurting. I tell her Ill go and to take her out. We go have some food after I take her out and we go back to the hotel. She spend the night, we have a great time. I checkout the next day.

My learnings.

- the last girl didn't make it transactional, I was more than happy to buy her as many drinks as she wanted in the club, or tip her after the hotel (call me a cash ATM or watever, but isn't this what we spend money for? To chase a feeling and live life?

- I learned that the more transactional it is, the more I'd dislike it.

- I found out she is the youngest girl there (20) and just started working 3 months ago, she seems to be making money here to go spend on food / vacation and just live her life.

- chemistry was important to make it more fun and have better time.

- dick in hole is kinda meh for the price, you end up paying atleast 6 k for it (drinks + barfine + girl cost).

- I much prefer GFE exp, but this is hard to achieve?

Curious to hear if yall fellas had similar exp, or I am just new at this and just going through the ringer. Anyways thanks for reading!

[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2956910]I googled testical massage Bangkok and there is a list.

What is a real testical massage like?[/QUOTE]I don't want to disgust the other readers here with too much details, but ...

It involves a fair amount of stretching of the scrotum skin, to the extent it feels rather painful sometimes, but in a good way. Similar to Thai massage, alternating a bit between feeling good and feeling painful. The majority of time is spent on your balls and surrounding area, rather than on your dick.
The feeling afterwards is also kind of similar to after Thai massage (for me: both relaxed and energized). The next few erections also felt different. Stronger, harder, with increased blood flow. In short: it felt like a genuinely healthy thing, and I guess it could have some genuine benefits for some of the men who visit a fertility clinic for help, perhaps pre-viagra days more than now.

I imagine that if you get the massage (pronounced something like "nood kasai") at a "proper" place (I. E. , hospital), it will not include any ejaculation or much, if any, touching of your dick, but I have not tried this. Girl who worked on Soi 33 said the price at the hospital was around 2,000 per session if I remember correctly, and gave me the name of a hospital, but I don't remember the name anymore.

[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2957051]Hmm I'm not good at describing people but I do remember this guy, if it was you, showing nudes of a lady he was with in my last trip around April LOL. Think he kind of saw me peeking as he was showing his friend hah. IIRC he had glasses and around 5 ft 6 ish. Your inbox was full or else I would have just messaged you there.[/QUOTE]Not me, I don't show nudes.

[QUOTE=Bookface4;2957080]First time soloing trip in BKK for a few days, mostly staying in Nana plaza area. My prev experience was only in Angeles city (for 3 weeks), so I am still pretty fresh, so all this stuff might already been obvious to many of you, apologies if I am beating a deadhorse here.

My thoughts and reflections about BKK vs Angeles.

Angeles to me was more accessible, we mostly hang out in XS, we got to know the mamasan quite well, it was a group of us, so we did spent and got the VIP? Exp, my other friends are frequent mongers so they knew the lay. Just lurking around the forum, I guess its the fact that the girls talk amongst themselves, esp when a group of guys who are just fun to be around and spend the money. I really enjoyed the exp, we ended up taking the same girls back mostly, and I really enjoyed the GFE + the intimacy, which is interesting because I thought I'd pick a different girl to fuck every night. I ended up picking the hottest girl (imo) and taking her back.

With that context, coming to BKK, solo albeit was so different.

- I mostly stuck to Nana plaza, as this was the most accessible since all of the clubs were close together. The vibes reminded me of walking street on angeles. I did find the rainbow club had the best line up (varies night by night).

- for the first 2 nights, I tried hang out w a few girls whom I thought were cute, but there wasnt that much chemisty (you might call me stupid / naive here, be / see who gives a fuck about chemistry when you are just trying to bang the hottest girl here bust a nut, but just sticking my dick in pussy and cum is just somewhat above masturbating to me).

- the other thing were just talking to the main mamasan + buying some drinks to build rapport (apparently all of the waitress in orange is a mamasan, but there is 2 - 3 boss in diff cloth that patrol around).

- Mamasan in that rainbow club was less helpful than I'd liked (recommand girls and about their background), but I did build rapport with them (they are still just people trying to have fun and dick around).

- I figured that if I was at a club at home, you buy a drink for a girl who might just leave for the same money, but here I get sit and play with her and pay for her time, why the fuck not.

- some girls order 2 drink combo right off the bat (shot + chaser), if you are not careful, your bills rack up, also good to say no early and swap girls if there is no chemisty (some girls don't fucking talk and they just sit there and dance).

- I found out I am bad at picking girls (I picked out attractive girls, some where good dancing), so alot of experimentation there and many drinks later.

- I read here you want to pick a girl that picks you (make fuck me eye contacts, etc) but it was hard to distinguish if they just wanted me to dispense some cash or wanted hang (you can argue its all moot point because we are just all walking ATMs for them).

- I did found a girl (7. 5) that did want to fuck my brains out (she only asked for 1 or 2 drinks for the hour and half there and there was some dirty action on the couch, I ended up giving her the reminder of my cash as a tip bonus, figured that money prob woulda went to drinks anyways).

- I think I was really chasing the GFE feeling from my trip in angeles, cout not find someone that was superhot + had chemisty.

Thai sidelines.

- I figured that if we are just doing quick fucks, ill try my hands at sidelines since all of the pictures online look hot.

- reality check when I met the first girl, fuck me for forgetting photoshop and beautify apps (rookie ass move), the picture online were 8. 5, but in person, she was atleast a few years older and 10 kg heavier. Shoulda just turned around and left, but I marched on, her service was good, but I wanted to quickly finish. 1500 damage.

- I figured that was maybe a bad apple, so I tried 6-7 other girls, here is what I gathered.

- drop atleast 1 or 2 grade from the pictures online, its mostly the same girl, but either little make up or older etc.

- arrangement was easy, but taxi there and back is a pain is the ass (30-40 min) each way, huge waste of time.

- some girls where enthusiastic, but I met this one girl, she looked like she 200% didn't want to be there, deadpan face, no smile. I didn't even finish, just left.

- it was so much more transactional than gogobars christ, and I really didn't like that.

- good if you want a quick fuck, but honestly at this point, the effort is almost not worth it.

- should try to aim for "new arrival" girls on the sites, or girls that are 20-21, older age are hit and miss.

Back to Nana.

- I figured that the premium I pay at gogo bar, is I get to see the goods before I decide and can talk to see if there is chemistry.

- went back to the same bar at usual spot (mamsan did remember). I was not focusing on girls that I thought would have chemistry, still shit at picking, but I picked up a girl who actually looked like a girl I knew whom I had a crush on, she was talktive and and more alive. Took her back, short term, she wanted 5 k, but mamasan gave me 4 k.

- went back the next day, the same girl immediately asked to sit. I declined politely as I wanted to try some one new. I ended up eying this girl who was having a blast up there w 2 of her friends up there, she was hella hot too, called her down and immediately knew I made the right choice (thank fuck, cause I suck at picking).

- we ended up having alot of chemisty and she was a really fun girl, she danced alot and was just goofy, I asked to take her out, she said 4 k, but I can pay at hotel, so I pay the barfine and take her back. Already 2 am).

- we go back to room, make out and have nice fuck, she said that she need wanted to pick up her stuff from the bar (hinting she wanted to stay over). I told her I should pay her before she leaves, she nods and I hand over the money (I ended up giving her 3 k because I made a mistake, but she didn't seem to be bothered, I only realize this the morning after, which then I gave her another 1. 5). I walk and get the shit and we go back to hotel to sleep.

- she hangs around until 3 pm the next day, then tells me she has to go get ready for work, and ask If ill come. I told her I would.

- 8/9/10 PM comes around, I had to finish some work stuff, she asks me if I am coming cause her feet were hurting. I tell her Ill go and to take her out. We go have some food after I take her out and we go back to the hotel. She spend the night, we have a great time. I checkout the next day.

My learnings.

- the last girl didn't make it transactional, I was more than happy to buy her as many drinks as she wanted in the club, or tip her after the hotel (call me a cash ATM or watever, but isn't this what we spend money for? To chase a feeling and live life?

- I learned that the more transactional it is, the more I'd dislike it.

- I found out she is the youngest girl there (20) and just started working 3 months ago, she seems to be making money here to go spend on food / vacation and just live her life.

- chemistry was important to make it more fun and have better time.

- dick in hole is kinda meh for the price, you end up paying atleast 6 k for it (drinks + barfine + girl cost).

- I much prefer GFE exp, but this is hard to achieve?

Curious to hear if yall fellas had similar exp, or I am just new at this and just going through the ringer. Anyways thanks for reading![/QUOTE]
I am a regular visitor to BKK and AC for the past 15+ years. I used to love AC very much in the past. I have had several girls with whom I kept contact and they stayed with me whenever I visited AC. It was like a vacation with your girl friends and sometimes with their friends cousins etc including several threesomes. Also I met many local non-bar girls in the Angeles Pampanga region. Things have not been same since Covid at AC. Perimeter bars in the old days were all GF's and plenty to choose from. Filelds bars also had lots of fun. AC has changed so much since Covid and the old chemistry is gone. I was there last November after my split trip to BKK. The only fun I had was with my friends with benifits. This year next month I decided to just do the mongering in BKK. I am now in my sixties and love to enjoy travel with exotic food and mongering. I do a lot of photography and right now BKK seems to be the ideal place to balance my interest.

[QUOTE=Kuku696;2957210]I am a regular visitor to BKK and AC for the past 15+ years. I used to love AC very much in the past. I have had several girls with whom I kept contact and they stayed with me whenever I visited AC. It was like a vacation with your girl friends and sometimes with their friends cousins etc including several threesomes. Also I met many local non-bar girls in the Angeles Pampanga region. Things have not been same since Covid at AC. Perimeter bars in the old days were all GF's and plenty to choose from. Filelds bars also had lots of fun. AC has changed so much since Covid and the old chemistry is gone. I was there last November after my split trip to BKK. The only fun I had was with my friends with benifits. This year next month I decided to just do the mongering in BKK. I am now in my sixties and love to enjoy travel with exotic food and mongering. I do a lot of photography and right now BKK seems to be the ideal place to balance my interest.[/QUOTE]Bangkok is a photographers dream.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2957083]I don't want to disgust the other readers here with too much details, but ...

It involves a fair amount of stretching of the scrotum skin, to the extent it feels rather painful sometimes, but in a good way. Similar to Thai massage, alternating a bit between feeling good and feeling painful. The majority of time is spent on your balls and surrounding area, rather than on your dick.
The feeling afterwards is also kind of similar to after Thai massage (for me: both relaxed and energized). The next few erections also felt different. Stronger, harder, with increased blood flow. In short: it felt like a genuinely healthy thing, and I guess it could have some genuine benefits for some of the men who visit a fertility clinic for help, perhaps pre-viagra days more than now.

I imagine that if you get the massage (pronounced something like "nood kasai") at a "proper" place (I. E. , hospital), it will not include any ejaculation or much, if any, touching of your dick, but I have not tried this. Girl who worked on Soi 33 said the price at the hospital was around 2,000 per session if I remember correctly, and gave me the name of a hospital, but I don't remember the name anymore.[/QUOTE]Very interesting. Thanks for the info!

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2956829]Dude, I first went to Thermae in 99, the year moved to Bangkok. And I've been posting on this forum for well over two decades. During my first 10 years here I probably took well over 200 girls from Thermae. So yes, I've been there. Believe it or not one's eyes tend to change the longer one has been here. What I found attractive 25 years ago is not what I find attractive now. And one of the most unattractive things about the ladies in Thermae now is the attitudes. It used to be a very interactive place. You'd walk around once and numerous girls would grab your unit, look you straight in the eye, and say go with you. They were aggressive and fun and like to party. Now it's a bunch of wallflowers. And overall I don't think the performance is in any way what it used to be. I never had a problem getting a GFE or a PSE from there back in the day. In addition I have numerous post over the last 10 plus years talking about the changes in Thermae and the reasons for those changes. So no there is nothing wrong with me. , or perhaps there is, I've been here very long time.[/QUOTE]I agree with you 100% on what you said about Thermae. Check out my previous posts (I only have 2) for my thoughts on the current status of Thermae. The girls' attitude is 100% the problem.

These girls are not there to hook up with guys, go out, and have fun. They are solely there for the money. In their eyes, us guys are just ATM machines, nothing more. They charge extremely high prices (3000 baht for short time), and you are not even guaranteed the full hour. Many girls do not even do "long time" anymore because short time is so much more lucrative. Also, their service sucks. Lots of no's. Many of the girls that I inquired with said they don't do kissing. I started asking myself: Why TF am I paying them so much money for shitty service?

If you're a first time traveler to BKK, I'd treat Thermae like the red light windows in Amsterdam: fun to look at once, but not worth paying the money for the shitty service.

[QUOTE=BobORama;2957238]I agree with you 100% on what you said about Thermae. Check out my previous posts (I only have 2) for my thoughts on the current status of Thermae. The girls' attitude is 100% the problem.

These girls are not there to hook up with guys, go out, and have fun. They are solely there for the money. In their eyes, us guys are just ATM machines, nothing more. They charge extremely high prices (3000 baht for short time), and you are not even guaranteed the full hour. Many girls do not even do "long time" anymore because short time is so much more lucrative. Also, their service sucks. Lots of no's. Many of the girls that I inquired with said they don't do kissing. I started asking myself: Why TF am I paying them so much money for shitty service?

If you're a first time traveler to BKK, I'd treat Thermae like the red light windows in Amsterdam: fun to look at once, but not worth paying the money for the shitty service.[/QUOTE]You've got to remember Thermae has a lot of girls who are not pros, that's the whole idea. They are just doing it on the side and maybe they do it for a short while. They can quote 3 k because I guess most bros will pay, you can always walk away. I haven't been to Thermae for couple years at least.

But I agree with you that Bangkok in general the women are a bit spoilt and that's partly the attitude problem. If you're a girl standing in Thermae or you're a regular girl you meet on Tinder, there are just too much choice for them as there's so many bros. Whether it's tourists, digital nomads etc.

[QUOTE=BobORama;2957238]I agree with you 100% on what you said about Thermae. Check out my previous posts (I only have 2) for my thoughts on the current status of Thermae. The girls' attitude is 100% the problem.

These girls are not there to hook up with guys, go out, and have fun. They are solely there for the money. In their eyes, us guys are just ATM machines, nothing more. They charge extremely high prices (3000 baht for short time), and you are not even guaranteed the full hour. Many girls do not even do "long time" anymore because short time is so much more lucrative. Also, their service sucks. Lots of no's. Many of the girls that I inquired with said they don't do kissing. I started asking myself: Why TF am I paying them so much money for shitty service?

If you're a first time traveler to BKK, I'd treat Thermae like the red light windows in Amsterdam: fun to look at once, but not worth paying the money for the shitty service.[/QUOTE]Thermae can be difficult for rookies, but once you gain experience its fabulous.

P.S. Dude this is Thailand. Every girl looks at you like at ATM. Don't be one of those guys sending money from your home wherever. You arent going to be meeting the love of your life.

You can get cheaper on Beach Road in Pattaya if you are on a budget.

[QUOTE=BobORama;2957238]I agree with you 100% on what you said about Thermae. Check out my previous posts (I only have 2) for my thoughts on the current status of Thermae. The girls' attitude is 100% the problem.

These girls are not there to hook up with guys, go out, and have fun. They are solely there for the money. In their eyes, us guys are just ATM machines, nothing more. They charge extremely high prices (3000 baht for short time), and you are not even guaranteed the full hour. Many girls do not even do "long time" anymore because short time is so much more lucrative. Also, their service sucks. Lots of no's. Many of the girls that I inquired with said they don't do kissing. I started asking myself: Why TF am I paying them so much money for shitty service?

If you're a first time traveler to BKK, I'd treat Thermae like the red light windows in Amsterdam: fun to look at once, but not worth paying the money for the shitty service.[/QUOTE]Agree with you all on Thermae, it's been hit or miss for me too. My first visit last year in June didn't live up to the hype; didn't find anyone I was drawn to, so I ended up leaving. Returned in January and spotted a few more attractive girls, maybe my perspective had changed a bit, but the energy was still pretty low. I did go with one, but it felt like she was just going through the motions; it was like being with a mannequin.

Went back again recently and finally found someone who stood out (to my tastes). She was pretty, fun, and very down-to-earth. The experience was definitely better than my last visit, but still basic and lacked real passion. In contrast, I met a gogo girl a few days later who was fantastic, funny, talkative, and super engaged in bed. The vibe was night and day, and she was definitely a looker.

Cost-wise, I found Thermae to be around 2500 B each time, while the gogo experience was 4700 B (excluding a few drinks). I did encounter one girl in Thermae asking for 5000 B, not sure if she just wasn't interested, but I've heard that higher prices are common.

Hopefully, things pick up at Thermae.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2957257]Thermae can be difficult for rookies, but once you gain experience its fabulous.[/QUOTE]From what I've read it's very difficult to get BBFS in there. Do you have a different experience?

I have no problems paying what they ask, but it can't be a wrapped up vanilla session.

Hey folks,

Planning to visit BKK next week. Last experience was 3 month ago for 2 days. Was able to squeeze in 1 visit to wonder massage for ST. Had a decent experience for 1 hour 2500 THB. Want to know if there any other MP similar to it which allow selection or any good ways to catch a couple of free Lancers.

Planning to stay at Hotel Asoke Clover, hope they allow gyests.

[QUOTE=Sychip1;2957249]You've got to remember Thermae has a lot of girls who are not pros, that's the whole idea. They are just doing it on the side and maybe they do it for a short while. They can quote 3 k because I guess most bros will pay, you can always walk away. I haven't been to Thermae for couple years at least.

But I agree with you that Bangkok in general the women are a bit spoilt and that's partly the attitude problem. If you're a girl standing in Thermae or you're a regular girl you meet on Tinder, there are just too much choice for them as there's so many bros. Whether it's tourists, digital nomads etc.[/QUOTE]Most bros will pay because 3 k is nothing to them. But for the girls, 3 k could be 5 to 6 times their daily salary at a "normal" job. These girls are definitely getting the better end of the deal. And that's the problem I have with them. They're getting paid so much money, but they put in zero effort and give you attitude when you ask for more. I don't mind paying, but I refuse to pay so much money for a low quality product. Nothing will change because like you said, there are so many bros visiting BKK that they can get away with it. So really, the root problem is the tourists (yes, I acknowledge that I am a "tourist" and part of the problem too, haha). There's just too many of them.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2957257]Thermae can be difficult for rookies, but once you gain experience its fabulous.

P.S. Dude this is Thailand. Every girl looks at you like at ATM. Don't be one of those guys sending money from your home wherever. You arent going to be meeting the love of your life.

You can get cheaper on Beach Road in Pattaya if you are on a budget.[/QUOTE]Well aware that I'm not going to be meeting the love of my life. Like most guys who visit Thailand, I'm just there to have a good time. Nothing more, nothing less. To me, a quick 10-minute fuck is not a good time. I guess when it comes to women, I'm also looking for personal connection / chemistry / good vibes. If it's not there, it feels like a big waste of time / money. Another poster before me said it best: the ones that felt less transactional were the most enjoyable.

[QUOTE=MaxyBBJ;2957274]Agree with you all on Thermae, it's been hit or miss for me too. My first visit last year in June didn't live up to the hype; didn't find anyone I was drawn to, so I ended up leaving. Returned in January and spotted a few more attractive girls, maybe my perspective had changed a bit, but the energy was still pretty low. I did go with one, but it felt like she was just going through the motions; it was like being with a mannequin.

Went back again recently and finally found someone who stood out (to my tastes). She was pretty, fun, and very down-to-earth. The experience was definitely better than my last visit, but still basic and lacked real passion. In contrast, I met a gogo girl a few days later who was fantastic, funny, talkative, and super engaged in bed. The vibe was night and day, and she was definitely a looker.

Cost-wise, I found Thermae to be around 2500 B each time, while the gogo experience was 4700 B (excluding a few drinks). I did encounter one girl in Thermae asking for 5000 B, not sure if she just wasn't interested, but I've heard that higher prices are common.

Hopefully, things pick up at Thermae.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Being with a mannequin is a great way to put it. That's how most Thermae girls are: they put in zero effort, relying instead on their youth / good looks. It's probably one step above doing it with a blowup doll. I have not tried the gogo girls, but it sounds like they are a better value than Thermae, even if gogo costs more. I would gladly pay more to have a more engaging experience with a girl.

Yes, some girls at Thermae do charge higher prices. One girl with a really cute face quoted me 4000 baht for ST. I had done the walk around the bar and seen all the girls available several times, and she was definitely the cutest out of all of them, but I still felt 4000 was too pricey, especially if she has terrible service. She also had zero enthusiasm in her voice, which did not bode well. She eventually walked away from me and went somewhere else to stand. Looking back now, I'm glad I didn't pay her ridiculous prices, as I felt she would have benefitted way more from the transaction than I would have.