Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2763375]What your sharing is an eye opener, as nobody on this thread as I recall over the past five years has ever shared in such detail as to what happened to them after being drugged like you.

A heavy duty wake up call for sure. I'm assuming there was no safety box in the apartment, or if there was, it had a physical key versus being electric?

And what about your Passport, did they leave that behind? And again, thanks for sharing your story![/QUOTE]I just want to help ensure everyone is safe and this goes beyond any concerns of personal embarrassment, at least for me. The success of those that drug is based on people not reporting and the cops doing nothing. The more that this is reported, the less successful they will be. And I agree with others that the attempts will become much more prevalent in the future given the economy unless the Medellin politicians and police are forced to do something (ie be tougher on those committing these crimes). Right now it's a slap on the wrist in Colombia whereas I believe date rape / drugging is a serious felony in the US. I mean, several individuals have died from it so you could also charge with attempted murder.

Getting to your questions. There were a series of filing cabinets with locks that I used to put my computer, money, CCs, and ID in. I then put the locks in 3 different places. Since I was out for a long period of time they found two of these keys and took items. Unfortunately these two areas had most of my stuff. I also hid some money and IDs in inserts for my shoes. This they did not find and is what I used to get back on my feed. Along with help from friends in Melling.

They did take the Passport, which is a pain in the ass to replace. I needed to fly to Bogota and get an Emergency Passport with the US Embassy. While I was there I met another guy (younger kid) who had also been drugged in Medellin and doing the same. The US Embassy was relatively efficient about it. I entered the Embassy at 9:30 am and had a Passport by 2:30 pm that day and flew out late that night. The thing that was frustrating is that they didn't seem to care much that I had been the victim of a serious crime (assault and battery). I asked to speak with an official there and they said they were aware of Paul's murder, and increasing crime, but there was not much they could do and that it was entirely up to me to follow up with the Medellin Police. I was not expecting a lott of hand holding, but the US has historically given Colombia a tremendous amount of aid annually ($500M to $1B) and accepted HUGE numbers of immigrants each year. I thought we'd have more influence.

There's another tool there's a website that's free it's called chicacheck. Co. The guy uploaded 10,000 Colombian Facebook profiles of girls you can run your girl through the search and get her Facebook profile or you can add a review on some of the girls or even upload photos it's a brand new site so they don't have a lot of the details filled in yet but it's a great place to start they're going to post a section called bad girls of Medellin and it's going to have pictures of all the girls that were accused of robberies and druggies and you could just swipe through them to see if your date is one of those photos check it out it's free Chicacheck. Co it's up to us to give the reviews and fill in the blanks.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2763567]I just want to help ensure everyone is safe and this goes beyond any concerns of personal embarrassment, at least for me. The success of those that drug is based on people not reporting and the cops doing nothing. The more that this is reported, the less successful they will be. And I agree with others that the attempts will become much more prevalent in the future given the economy unless the Medellin politicians and police are forced to do something (ie be tougher on those committing these crimes).[/QUOTE]I definitely appreciate other members being candid about these dangers because I assume most men never report it due to the social stigma. There was another member a few days ago that wrote a story about getting into a car with a woman and getting mugged by a gang. My takeaway is Medellin is more dangerous than Bogota, where I felt safe walking around at night by myself (though I did stay in the Parque 93 and Zona Rosa areas, which are some of the most upscale neighborhoods).

I had a lot of success using Seeking in Bogota and plan on doing the same in Medellin (also might try FB). I think it's safer when you're texting the girl for a couple weeks before arriving because there's a time investment that most scammers won't bother with. If someone is trying to rob you, it's going to be a numbers game where she is trying to meet up with as many men as soon as possible.

Tinder and Bumble are also geared towards anonymity because you can't browse through profiles like Seeking or FB. You're shown 1 girl at a time and once they block you, you won't be able to find her profile again. You also can't tell how long they've been on the app. Seeking at least shows you that they've been on the site for a while and if they block you there, you can just create a new account and find her profile again. With FB, you can at least see her friends, posting activity, and make a better guess if her info on there is real. Again, none of this is foolproof, but I think it will reduce the overall risk.

There appears to be a companion website to the mdehallofshame FB group chicacheck. Co, free to join and the FB group asks you to sign up for chicacheck before joining. You can search FB chica reviews by name or FB profile link. Glad someone did started this.

Once again, we all owe you a debt of gratitude for sharing what happened. I'm convinced it will prevent it happening to us. Diplomats who man embassies and consulates are not responsible for law enforcement or criminal investigations. Their role is to assist and facilitate when citizens get involved with local law enforcement, either as crime victims or crime suspects. We are each responsible for our own dealings with local law enforcement. That is an unpopular and not widely known fact, but it is a fact. The high profile case of Brittany Griner is an example. The USA State Department is aware of each reported case involving its citizens. It uses that and other information to issue travel warnings.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2763567]I just want to help ensure everyone is safe and this goes beyond any concerns of personal embarrassment, at least for me. The success of those that drug is based on people not reporting and the cops doing nothing. The more that this is reported, the less successful they will be. And I agree with others that the attempts will become much more prevalent in the future given the economy unless the Medellin politicians and police are forced to do something (ie be tougher on those committing these crimes). Right now it's a slap on the wrist in Colombia whereas I believe date rape / drugging is a serious felony in the US. I mean, several individuals have died from it so you could also charge with attempted murder.

Getting to your questions. There were a series of filing cabinets with locks that I used to put my computer, money, CCs, and ID in. I then put the locks in 3 different places. Since I was out for a long period of time they found two of these keys and took items. Unfortunately these two areas had most of my stuff. I also hid some money and IDs in inserts for my shoes. This they did not find and is what I used to get back on my feed. Along with help from friends in Melling.

They did take the Passport, which is a pain in the ass to replace. I needed to fly to Bogota and get an Emergency Passport with the US Embassy. While I was there I met another guy (younger kid) who had also been drugged in Medellin and doing the same. The US Embassy was relatively efficient about it. I entered the Embassy at 9:30 am and had a Passport by 2:30 pm that day and flew out late that night. The thing that was frustrating is that they didn't seem to care much that I had been the victim of a serious crime (assault and battery). I asked to speak with an official there and they said they were aware of Paul's murder, and increasing crime, but there was not much they could do and that it was entirely up to me to follow up with the Medellin Police. I was not expecting a lott of hand holding, but the US has historically given Colombia a tremendous amount of aid annually ($500M to $1B) and accepted HUGE numbers of immigrants each year. I thought we'd have more influence.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2763330]Any day of the week I would rather be paranoid than drugged and robbed. Is it possible new drugs and methods can emerge? IDK, but bottom line, know the rules of the game before you roll the dice. More rules you know, greater the chances of winning. Any game where the loser ends up drugged / robbed / maybe even dead- is a game I want my odds as high as possible. To each their own though.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a good strategy for russian roulette! Keep playing with the best odds possible so you can tempt fate and procreate.

Is it addiction, instinct, suicidal tendency? Any card carrying psychologists here? Ha ha ha.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2763567]I just want to help ensure everyone is safe and this goes beyond any concerns of personal embarrassment, at least for me. The success of those that drug is based on people not reporting and the cops doing nothing. The more that this is reported, the less successful they will be. And I agree with others that the attempts will become much more prevalent in the future given the economy unless the Medellin politicians and police are forced to do something (ie be tougher on those committing these crimes). Right now it's a slap on the wrist in Colombia whereas I believe date rape / drugging is a serious felony in the US. I mean, several individuals have died from it so you could also charge with attempted murder.

Getting to your questions. There were a series of filing cabinets with locks that I used to put my computer, money, CCs, and ID in. I then put the locks in 3 different places. Since I was out for a long period of time they found two of these keys and took items. Unfortunately these two areas had most of my stuff. I also hid some money and IDs in inserts for my shoes. This they did not find and is what I used to get back on my feed. Along with help from friends in Melling.

They did take the Passport, which is a pain in the ass to replace. I needed to fly to Bogota and get an Emergency Passport with the US Embassy. While I was there I met another guy (younger kid) who had also been drugged in Medellin and doing the same. The US Embassy was relatively efficient about it. I entered the Embassy at 9:30 am and had a Passport by 2:30 pm that day and flew out late that night. The thing that was frustrating is that they didn't seem to care much that I had been the victim of a serious crime (assault and battery). I asked to speak with an official there and they said they were aware of Paul's murder, and increasing crime, but there was not much they could do and that it was entirely up to me to follow up with the Medellin Police. I was not expecting a lott of hand holding, but the US has historically given Colombia a tremendous amount of aid annually ($500M to $1B) and accepted HUGE numbers of immigrants each year. I thought we'd have more influence.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you figured it all out, when is your next trip and what will you be doing differently?

Hello all!

I was in Medellin pre covid and had a great time. Met some girls in parque lleras and off photoprepagos. Stayed at an Airbnb. Never had any trouble. Going back now in a few weeks and I notice a lot of people say they met girls via Facebook? I have not done that and would love to know how / where to start. Also concerned about all the issues with crime. I think I should be fine as it's me and another guy friend. We never go anywhere alone, don't get get hammered drunk and watch our drinks, don't do drugs. We do have an Airbnb again by lleras not a hotel but all the reviews mention it being pretty secure. Any advice from recent travelers or advice on the Facebook angle would be appreciated!

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2763567]I just want to help ensure everyone is safe and this goes beyond any concerns of personal embarrassment, at least for me. The success of those that drug is based on people not reporting and the cops doing nothing. The more that this is reported, the less successful they will be. And I agree with others that the attempts will become much more prevalent in the future given the economy unless the Medellin politicians and police are forced to do something (ie be tougher on those committing these crimes). Right now it's a slap on the wrist in Colombia whereas I believe date rape / drugging is a serious felony in the US. I mean, several individuals have died from it so you could also charge with attempted murder.

Getting to your questions. There were a series of filing cabinets with locks that I used to put my computer, money, CCs, and ID in. I then put the locks in 3 different places. Since I was out for a long period of time they found two of these keys and took items. Unfortunately these two areas had most of my stuff. I also hid some money and IDs in inserts for my shoes. This they did not find and is what I used to get back on my feed. Along with help from friends in Melling.

They did take the Passport, which is a pain in the ass to replace. I needed to fly to Bogota and get an Emergency Passport with the US Embassy. While I was there I met another guy (younger kid) who had also been drugged in Medellin and doing the same. The US Embassy was relatively efficient about it. I entered the Embassy at 9:30 am and had a Passport by 2:30 pm that day and flew out late that night. The thing that was frustrating is that they didn't seem to care much that I had been the victim of a serious crime (assault and battery). I asked to speak with an official there and they said they were aware of Paul's murder, and increasing crime, but there was not much they could do and that it was entirely up to me to follow up with the Medellin Police. I was not expecting a lott of hand holding, but the US has historically given Colombia a tremendous amount of aid annually ($500M to $1B) and accepted HUGE numbers of immigrants each year. I thought we'd have more influence.[/QUOTE]Did the younger guy give you any details on him being drugged?

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2763567]I just want to help ensure everyone is safe and this goes beyond any concerns of personal embarrassment, at least for me. The success of those that drug is based on people not reporting and the cops doing nothing. The more that this is reported, the less successful they will be. And I agree with others that the attempts will become much more prevalent in the future given the economy unless the Medellin politicians and police are forced to do something (ie be tougher on those committing these crimes). Right now it's a slap on the wrist in Colombia whereas I believe date rape / drugging is a serious felony in the US. I mean, several individuals have died from it so you could also charge with attempted murder.

Getting to your questions. There were a series of filing cabinets with locks that I used to put my computer, money, CCs, and ID in. I then put the locks in 3 different places. Since I was out for a long period of time they found two of these keys and took items. Unfortunately these two areas had most of my stuff. I also hid some money and IDs in inserts for my shoes. This they did not find and is what I used to get back on my feed. Along with help from friends in Melling.

They did take the Passport, which is a pain in the ass to replace. I needed to fly to Bogota and get an Emergency Passport with the US Embassy. While I was there I met another guy (younger kid) who had also been drugged in Medellin and doing the same. The US Embassy was relatively efficient about it. I entered the Embassy at 9:30 am and had a Passport by 2:30 pm that day and flew out late that night. The thing that was frustrating is that they didn't seem to care much that I had been the victim of a serious crime (assault and battery). I asked to speak with an official there and they said they were aware of Paul's murder, and increasing crime, but there was not much they could do and that it was entirely up to me to follow up with the Medellin Police. I was not expecting a lott of hand holding, but the US has historically given Colombia a tremendous amount of aid annually ($500M to $1B) and accepted HUGE numbers of immigrants each year. I thought we'd have more influence.[/QUOTE]Where were you staying? Was there security there?

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2763617]Where were you staying? Was there security there?[/QUOTE]He mentioned in another post there was no doorman, just needed the keys to get out.

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2763612]Did the younger guy give you any details on him being drugged?[/QUOTE]Not much. He said he was dating the girl off and on and when he told her he was thinking of ending it with her she got upset and a night or two later she drugged him. He woke up without his passport and laptop. He knew the girl decently well it seemed.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2744513]FYI there is a lower cost, less restrictive casa just next door to Energy. I don't believe it has a name and they no longer do line ups. The girls work off mileroticos and similar web sites, by appointment. How much less than Energy, almost half at 90 K / half four + any extra you can think of.[/QUOTE]I have bin trying to find this place, with no luck. Can you help me with a pointer to a girl who works there?

Thanks.

Sandy.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2763416][URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/mdehallofshame[/URL] they are posting about the girl.

Someone make a long list of SAFE Vs. RISKY ways of getting laid here. Put it into a post of distinction and save some lives. Elvis?[/QUOTE]Surfer, Mr. E. JjBee62 Knowledge Chicago Miami Elvis etc. I think you guys will like these posts over 100 photos of beautiful (& DANGEROUS) girls.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10228451034605902&set=g.333681437649949[/URL]

I can send you screen shots or maybe some of you will also join.

Hmm, maybe I should check this out.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2763647]Surfer, Mr. E. JjBee62 Knowledge Chicago Miami Elvis etc. I think you guys will like these posts over 100 photos of beautiful (& DANGEROUS) girls.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10228451034605902&set=g.333681437649949[/URL]

I can send you screen shots or maybe some of you will also join.[/QUOTE]