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[QUOTE=David_33;1206350]Mortman was a witness to my panic attack when all of a sudden about ten guys came out of nowhere and starting BANGING on all parts of the taxi. Anyway, we didn't partake, just went to check the place out.[/QUOTE]It can be very unnerving for the first time, but I have been going there regularly for the last few years. The place has certainly died down recently, fewer girls and poorer quality. I will never forget my first ever trip there at about 1am in the morning. The place was literally teeming with scores of girls, many of dubious age and a good percentage of stunners fresh off the boat from outlying regions.

I still like to visit at night, have a beer at one of the shacks, but nothing has attracted my eye over the last few years, most of the girls are hardned pros, and choice is now very limited. I wish it was like the old days, it was an amazing, vibrant very seedy place, teeming with low life, with scores of girls rarely older than early 20s but in a strange way very safe. You still get the pimps hammering on the taxis, but the place has gone past its sell by date. I have taken a few guys down there and can testify to David33 initial nerves. But once the initial shock is out of the way, I am sure most guys will agree it is relatively safe providing you exercise that frequently used phrase 'common sense'. There are places I have worked in London, that would give me more personal safety concerns than this place, provided you act and behave accordingly and are confident in yourself.

I wish there was another place like this, I have heard of a similar place in Lapu Lapu frequented almost exclusively by locals, I would love to visit it if such a place exists. I will be back in Cebu in a couple of months and may pay one final visit to Jonquera just to wipe a tear from my eye as I think about what it used to be like there. I enjoy girls from the bars, dating sites and picks ups in the malls and shops, but for me there is something quite exciting and compelling, when going to visit life as it really is.

[QUOTE=Denergod; 1204862]See that you think I am a newbie to this game. Been 8 times in Cebu. 3 weeks or more every time.

Mango square is infestated by muslims now. Both arabians and negros. The koreans are not as visible as before. Caucasians are a minority there now.

But going inside J Ave. (Juliana) will for sure give you lots of opportunities for a hot night in town.[/QUOTE]Seems to me to be a particularly racist remark, since the word infestation is negatively linked and commonly used to describe pests (insects, rats etc). I also question the accuracy of your remarks, since I am a frequent visitor to the area (three or four times per year) and I have never witnessed anything that would corroborate what you are saying. I was last in Mango Square in July and it seemed to be much the same as it always has been. So unless there has been a sudden and unexpected upsurge in visitors from the Middle East, Africa or wherever else you think Negros originate from, I am not entirely sure what you mean? Oh and by the way I am not black and nor am I a militant supporter and defender of minority rights. I just find it hard not to challenge silly remarks like that!

[QUOTE=Mortman;1206665]Seems to me to be a particularly racist remark, since the word infestation is negatively linked and commonly used to describe pests (insects, rats etc). I also question the accuracy of your remarks, since I am a frequent visitor to the area (three or four times per year) and I have never witnessed anything that would corroborate what you are saying. I was last in Mango Square in July and it seemed to be much the same as it always has been. So unless there has been a sudden and unexpected upsurge in visitors from the Middle East, Africa or wherever else you think Negros originate from, I am not entirely sure what you mean? Oh and by the way I am not black and nor am I a militant supporter and defender of minority rights. I just find it hard not to challenge silly remarks like that![/QUOTE]You think maybe he's talking about the Viking's bars?

Or the Mango Park bars, around Juliana's? I was there in July also. Not a single black or middle-easterner. And nobody recognizable as muslim or anything else religious-wise. Just lots of pilipinos and a handful of white guys.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1206478]Last night I gave a dinner for 15 people, and we held it at Maya; the upscale Mexican restaurant in Crossroads. Everyone seemed to enjoy it a great deal. The service was excellent, the ambience quite nice and the food, if not spectacular was quite acceptable. At 7 o'clock on a Friday night the place seemed to be full, and there were more customers arriving as we left around 9. Aside from my two glasses of wine, there was no alcohol, as all but one of the other guests were Muslim and drinking was out of the question. So, sans alcohol the bill was about $20 a person, which for an upscale restaurant wasn't bad at all, and represented excellent value for money.

I'm staying, as I have during my last few trips, at the Parklane, and have no complaints at all.

GE[/QUOTE][b]GE, [/b]

I am glad you enjoyed Maya, as have I on numerious occasions. The service is usually first rate and not over-bearing, the decor and location above average and the food is excellent for the Philippines. Every time I have visited my bill was around $80 for two, so that is an increase from the $20 per person average you stated but alcohol was usually consumed.

When I would get out of the taxi the lovely girl with me would always giggle and squeeze my hand tight and would say something to me about being under dressed for such a nice place as I opened the large wooden door for her to enter. I prefer to sit close to the window on the main floor so I can people watch as sometimes it can get noisy later in the evening as an acoustic band starts to preform around 9ish on the second level.

[QUOTE=David_33;1206350]about ten guys came out of nowhere and starting BANGING on all parts of the taxi.[/QUOTE]Maybe these guys heard Harry Thomas' 40% assertion and didn't hear his admission that he couldn't back up the numbers.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1206625]My local bar. And my street. It has been tame lately, but some nights it gets a bit crazy[/QUOTE]Anthropologists would say you've "gone native." Another way of expressing this-please don't take it the wrong way, it's an expression of fondness among anthropologists-is that "the natives built you a hut."

Yes, there is such a thing as a FREE LUNCH. There is a free lunch at one of the top hotels in Cebu City next Tuesday Oct. 25 for ISG forum members with or without GFs. Have to show up at 11:00 a.m., not looking too scrungy, or under the influence of any illegal substance or alcohol please (will reflect on me). Space limited so PM me if you are interested or have any questions. No timeshare pitch, no sales, no hidden agenda; just lunch and conversation. If no one is around, maybe next trip.

[QUOTE=Denergod; 1204862]Mango square is infestated by muslims now. Both arabians and negros. The koreans are not as visible as before. Caucasians are a minority there now.

But going inside J Ave. (Juliana) will for sure give you lots of opportunities for a hot night in town.[/QUOTE]The Koreans are not as visible as before? Absolutely the opposite, but then you see what you want to see, you see Muslims I see Koreans. Admittedly I am not talking specifically about Julianas, but of Cebu and other towns in general. There are regular robberies of people walking to or from Mango Square, and right now too, mostly group of 2 to 5 persons partaking in robberies. Koreans are targeted, so maybe that is why they avoid the place and Korean numbers have dropped. Filipino males dislike koreans intensely, just ask them, LOL. Best to avoid street theft, drop off taxi at front, catch taxi at front, is my advice. Walking to save taxi fares might prove an expensive exercise one night, but of course we will not hear that, people don't like to admit their mistakes. Juliana's downfall in respect of western customers might be on the way out, yes, could be correct. Nice confusing post this one, something in it for everyone, LOL.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1208077]There are regular robberies of people walking to or from Mango Square, and right now too, mostly group of 2 to 5 persons partaking in robberies. Koreans are targeted, so maybe that is why they avoid the place and Korean numbers have dropped. Filipino males dislike koreans intensely,

Just ask them, LOL. Best to avoid street theft, drop off taxi at front, catch taxi at front, is my advice.[/QUOTE]Walking alone at night from Mango Square can indeed be dangerous. Also, be wary of gangs of doped-up street urchins. They hunt in packs and are quite

Skilled at creating diversions and quickly stealing wallets. They often hang out between Osmena Circle and Mango Square. So, yes, take Sxxxx's advice and

Take a taxi.

Was down mango out side Juliana and I would say I saw 6 white guys 20 freelancers sitting down out side no others. Seems like it the same as usual. To me the white guys out number any other race and the girls who want to meet us are there in huge numbers. Also I found it pretty safe I walked arround and did not see any gangs. The guy I was with picked up a good looking nice girl I was with my gf and saw a few girls I knew so to me the place is the same as it always is.

I also went to a new bar call sinderalla in lapu lapu, I think some guy has caved in to his bar girl gf and setup a bar in Cebu only 3 other guys was there the whole time I was there, there was 10 girls working none I would bar fine. I would never own a bar in Cebu or PI. It down a dirt lane behind th ptt petrol station across from the crown regency lapu lapu. That the thing in Cebu you need to know where the new bars are as some are open right and have some of the best girls from day one.

I will do some more bar hops soon and will post more.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1208216]Was down mango out side Juliana and I would say I saw 6 white guys 20 freelancers sitting down out side no others. Seems like it the same as usual.[/QUOTE]Outside Julianas venue itself is perfectly ok, its when you walk away or to Mango Square that robberies have occurred. Stay inside the square and you should be alright, walk away, down mango, also called Maximillon Ave, and things might start to happen and you will have no control over it when it does. Do not walk away from the square itself, where you will then be on your own and an easy target. Drop off pick up by taxi at front of the square.

[QUOTE=David_33;1207823]Yes, there is such a thing as a FREE LUNCH. There is a free lunch at one of the top hotels in Cebu City next Tuesday Oct. 25 for ISG forum members with or without GFs. Have to show up at 11:00 a.m., not looking too scrungy, or under the influence of any illegal substance or alcohol please (will reflect on me). Space limited so PM me if you are interested or have any questions. No timeshare pitch, no sales, no hidden agenda; just lunch and conversation. If no one is around, maybe next trip.[/QUOTE]Fri the 28th I be there. If you want I bring my 5 gf. LOL. There are 2 others guys I know who should make it. Andre and mark.

Sorry to miss out on the lunch. I will not arrive untill 11-3-11 from Angels city. Just have to go there.

Sorry about the picture of my x. I am a irish Catholic monger. But I still have a little class. I hope we do cross paths. I allready owe you one. RED

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1208365]Fri the 28th I be there.[/QUOTE]Sorry, has to be the 25th. At first I thought I was going to have to forget about ISG guys and just let my GF come with her classmates. But some guys have PMd me, so its on. It will be purely forum members this time. Probably best without the chicas.

Redman69, I'm sorry if I am missing something, but I don't know what pic you are talking about. Am I becoming senile?

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1208077]Walking to save taxi fares might prove an expensive exercise one night, but of course we will not hear that, people don't like to admit their mistakes. .[/QUOTE]Sorry for the off-topic but. Really?

C'mon guys, who would want to "save" on taxis in Cebu, the average trip is 80-100 peso (2-3 bucks) and drivers are friendly and a wealth of information, my most expensive taxi fare was 400 pesos, going to the tops and having the driver waiting for me for one hour. Aside the fact that is way too cheap to take the taxi, I really felt very safe in Cebu, I haven't seen one beggar and not at any moment I felt threatened in any way but that doesen't mean you should not always watch your back.