Panama City

[QUOTE=Tp Horn; 1117257]Investigators somehow detected clandestine prostitution occurring.

[url]http://www.telemetro.com/noticias/2011/01/27/nota65939.html[/url][/QUOTE]This is just ridiculous. This place has been around for years as the famous prostitue bar. . First of all, this article makes it sound like it was some kind of a huge surprise or mystery. Everyone in the entire world knows about the famous Habano's, located right across the street from the Marriott hotel. It's been there for years. The bar is frequented mostly by foreign businessmen who are traveling to Panama, and the men go there because the women are there. The women go there because the men are there. Immigration raids this place regularly. And for the record, what they do is sweep up the women who are there. Mostly Colombian prostitutes. And they take them away to the holding cells in Immigration even though they have their paperwork in order.

If anyone is currently in Panama please keep us updated in the next week or so how the bar is turning out and if women are frequenting back there. Appreciate it.

This was my fourth trip to Panama City.

Airport taxi : cab stand wants $28. If you request a COLECTIVO [shared cab] the rate drops to $10-12 depending on where you are going. Expect to share a minivan with 3-5 other tourists.

Hotels : I stayed at Hotel Las Vegas. Next block from Casino Veneto.

Very convenient area, clean rooms, good security. There are cheaper, newer places to rent, but I've stayed here before and was happy with it.

Food: restaurants abound here are some I liked.

Italian restaurant on ground floor of Hotel Las Vegas- great pizza, pasta, etc.

Siete Mares [seven seas]

La Mar [peruvian seafood]

El patio mexicano.

Burger bar.

These last four restaurants are all on the same street CALLE JOSE ISAAC FARBREGA.

It is one block away from Via Espana and Via Argentina. When you see the statue of Roberto Duran standing on top of the world, turn left and you are on the street where the restaurants are.

Around the corner heading back to Via Espana is ANTICA GELATO also highly recommended. $3 for two scoops.

It is on the corner of Eusibio Morales and Via Espana.

A few doors down from the ice cream place is TURFF CLUB [yes, two f's] This is a sports book and horse betting with live feeds from Las Vegas. Great place to watch sporting events and have a few drinks. I think this operation is owned by MGMGRAND. The Belagio has an office in the same shopping center to book wealthy Panamanians to their casinos.

All of the above mentioned places are within a five minute walk of Casino Veneto.

Also after 9pm, in the parking lots along Via Espana, a lot of food vendors set up shop. You will find barbeque,

Burgers, all sorts of sandwiches, even full dinners. Some of the vendors are very busy from 9pm-midnight or whenever they sell out. I've had several great meals here. Worth a look.

More to follow shortly.

Casinos: hold-em at Veneto around 7pm.

Also at casino in Multiplaza Mall around 7pm.

Parque National Metropalitano: 5 minute cab ride to miles of hiking trails in rainforest park.

Monkeys, sloths, armadillos, birds, butterflies and lots of insects. $2 tourist admission. Be sure to buy a bottle or two of water in the office before you start up the trails. Great views of the whole city from the top, assuming you make it that far. Bring your camera.

Chicas: I did very well from.
[url]www.mundoanuncio.com[/url]

Lots of ads from independent girls, some are in apartments with 2-3 other chicas. Unfortunately, they do not use street addresses in Panama City. Everything is refered to by a nearby landmark.

"we are in Barrio San Francisco, the 3rd apartment building around the corner from the Nissan dealer in apt 3a."

GPS will not help, bring your sense of adventure. I found 4 of the 5 places I started out for.

Not recommended for newbys.

Several of the newspapers have ads but no pictures.
I am not brave enough for this but you might be.

Other spots I liked:

Oriental Massage [see other reports] $60 10am-2pm / shift change at 6pm.

Habanos [see other reports] after 10pm, independent colombianas ask $200-300, most can be had for $80-100.

Bodeguita VIP: similar to Habanos, sometimes with live music. This is on Via Espana, about a block past the ice cream store, on the other side of the strreet. If you pass Via Argentina, you went to far.

Bocatorena[sp? ] and la mayor:

Both in same building at the entrance to Casco Viejo. Every cab driver knows la Mayor.

Bocatorena:

50+ chicas weekday afternoons, no english, I was only tourist. I never had any problems. Everyone was either very nice or just ignored me. Pricing is $12 for 12- 15 minutes.

$7 for chica, house gets $5 for the room. If you pay with a $20, you get $5 change. Be sure to bring $1's and $10's.

Beer is $1 and as usual, the more you drink, the better they look!

Chica drinks are $2. 50.

Girls range from horrible to fantastic, clearly something for everyone.

The rooms are disgusting.

You can talk to the girls for as long as you want to see if they will fit your needs, or just pick one and take her up to the rooms. Not necessary to say anything if you don't want to.

Most of the customers come for $1 beer and a little grab-ass but never take a chica.

La mayor:

Has a $2 cover, but it includes a drink ticket {clearly much more upscale]

Opens about 4pm, sometimes has dancers.

Chicas are $30/30 minutes, but be careful here as chica drinks are $5/$10/$30

When you leave La Mayor, walk up the hill to the old city CASCO VIEJO. It"s about 5 blocks square. The old buildings are being restored to expensive condos and pricey restaurants. New hotels are being built. They are trying to preserve as many of the old structures as possible. The capitol buildings are in here also along with some small museums. Many of the poor locals who lived here for generations are being displaced. There is a place for pobrecitos but it is no longer in Casco Viejo.

What is the current price at GOLDEN TIME?

[QUOTE=Hammerin Hank;1118026]What is the current price at GOLDEN TIME?[/QUOTE]Last time I was there about middle of last September the price with a cab dropping you off was about 130. I am heading down mid feb so I can update you guys then.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1117302]If anyone is currently in Panama please keep us updated in the next week or so how the bar is turning out and if women are frequenting back there. Appreciate it.[/QUOTE]The next day, this past Friday, Habano's was back to normal. About 20-25 chicas most of the night. There was a minor panic about 11 PM and half of them ran out because they were tipped off to a raid, but it turned out to be a false alarm. (Half of them stayed.) Most of them were back within an hour or so.

It varies night by night depending on whether the girls have been tipped off that an operation is scheduled. Then they stay home. A couple of Fridays ago there were only about 3 girls there, I'm sure because they heard something was up. The following night there were plenty. You have to play it by ear. If the bar is empty one night just go back the next.

Something new since I was going there last year is strippers in the upstairs bar. The ones I saw were quite gymnastic but mostly not that great looking. The price seems to be $150 + $25 bar fine.

Rippa.

I think you have been going to all the wrong places on all four continents my friend.

Here is the Panamanian girl.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Longtimer2;1118152]The next day, this past Friday, Habano's was back to normal. About 20-25 chicas most of the night. There was a minor panic about 11 PM and half of them ran out because they were tipped off to a raid, but it turned out to be a false alarm. (Half of them stayed.) Most of them were back within an hour or so.[/QUOTE]There was a big crack down this past week, even made it to the news on the tv. Common sense might dictate to stay clear for awhile until the dust settles down to avoid any uncomfortable situations with La Migra, the chief of the raid was a woman so you know how bitching those might get.

Go the venetos, bodeguita in the mean time, but if you feel confident go and hit habanos to see hows everything

[QUOTE=Hammerin Hank;1118026]What is the current price at GOLDEN TIME?[/QUOTE]Went 2 nights ago, it was $85 without getting dropped off by a cab.

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1118190]There was a big crack down this past week, even made it to the news on the tv. Common sense might dictate to stay clear for awhile until the dust settles down to avoid any uncomfortable situations with La Migra, the chief of the raid was a woman so you know how bitching those might get.

Go the venetos, bodeguita in the mean time, but if you feel confident go and hit habanos to see hows everything.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. Had a friend of mine who said nothing has changed there. Just need to play it by ear each day. Hopefully this raid doesn't affect both veneto or bodagueita. Any thought?

[QUOTE=Snipps;1118210]Thanks for the reply. Had a friend of mine who said nothing has changed there. Just need to play it by ear each day. Hopefully this raid doesn't affect both veneto or bodagueita. Any thought?[/QUOTE]Bodeguita and venetto rarely get affected by this type of raids. Bodeguita has a higher chance of getting hit due to been a smaller business than the huge venetto hotel.

I've been getting reports that the other place in calle uruguay, don't recall the name, is getting lots of lookers. The place is right in the corner of the Don Lee street, the one that comes from Fridays, almost in front of the Prive Lounge and Bar Seis

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1118583]Bodeguita and venetto rarely get affected by this type of raids. Bodeguita has a higher chance of getting hit due to been a smaller business than the huge venetto hotel.

I've been getting reports that the other place in calle uruguay, don't recall the name, is getting lots of lookers. The place is right in the corner of the Don Lee street, the one that comes from Fridays, almost in front of the Prive Lounge and Bar Seis[/QUOTE]I assume you mean hookers not lookers hehehehehe. I think you are talking about sahara's? They have an outdoor patio.

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1118190]There was a big crack down this past week, even made it to the news on the tv.[/QUOTE]Just because it made the news for once doesn't mean it was anything out of the ordinary. Like I said, things were back to normal the very next day.

[QUOTE=Longtimer2;1118634]Just because it made the news for once doesn't mean it was anything out of the ordinary. Like I said, things were back to normal the very next day.[/QUOTE]Thanks crazy. Love Panama. Can't wait to get down there again. Do you know what the going rate is about down there I heard women can be had for like 60 and hour? Some tough economic times down there. Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Snipps;1118588]I assume you mean hookers not lookers hehehehehe. I think you are talking about sahara's? They have an outdoor patio.[/QUOTE]Not sahara (BTW, sahara is out of business!) , you can't miss it if walking like going to the greek restaurant in the corner of the gas station, like going to elite

[QUOTE=Longtimer2;1118634]Just because it made the news for once doesn't mean it was anything out of the ordinary. Like I said, things were back to normal the very next day.[/QUOTE]Well, here in Panama, if it makes to the news, is a big deal, because the place stands hot in the popular radar, and the authorities flex their muscle when this happens to appear like they are doing their job

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1119421]Not sahara (BTW, sahara is out of business!) , you can't miss it if walking like going to the greek restaurant in the corner of the gas station, like going to elite[/QUOTE]I think the place you are talking about is the new Bodegita.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1119506]I think the place you are talking about is the new Bodegita.[/QUOTE]Yes that is it. When I was there in sep cab driver told me they opened another Bodegita. They have an outdoor patio but when I went it was quite. Everyone was at VIP bodequita. Maybe its changed.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1101674]I have a couple of pics but not sure if I should post them or not. Don't want her to get into any trouble. But then again hope any pics posted might give her more business. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]You could do her a favor by putting her phone number and name so at least another member could call her.

Friends,

Carnival is just around the corner, March 4th thru 8th. The city itself is going to be DEAD as far regular night time activities.

Joints will be open of course, but you won't see the same activity as the rest of the year, and I bet the pros from habanos, bodeguita, etc are all set with dates for carnival leaving for beaches, the provinces.

So I'll write down some popular destinations, not the most crowded but still very popular.

1. Panama City: if you plan to come or you are schedule to come during this days, there will be some carnival activities in the city, specifically in the coastal way (cinta costera). Be on an escalated state of alert, as tourist become prime targets for robbers, even when there is an increase in police units during the events.

Most hotels might have some artists and the like.

2. Penonome: Try to see if there is a day trip with the hotel to this town, is one of the first major stops for the carnival, about 2 hours from the city. Expect big concentrations of people for the "culecos", big water trucks with hoses attached throwing water to all the attendants while they drink themselves into oblivion under the blistering sun.

Practice good common sense, have copies of your passport, bring just enough cash with you, try to leave most valuables and electronics at your place, since they are bound to get wet (use ziplocs or waterproof packs if your gadget has one).

3. Ocu: about 3 hours from the capital, the crowd here is from the middle upper, upper echelons of society so will have a nicer and relaxed time. Same as above but with a lower alert level. Big gathering of people.

4. Las Tablas: Well worth 4 hours away from the city. This is one of the most crowded places during the carnival. Extreme Opsec is advised, same advices as above regarding valuables, money, etc.

5. Beaches: Nikki Beach, Decameron, your pick. Good luck finding vacancy as many people stay some days at the beach and then go to the above places and back to their hotels.

Hope this miniguide helps you!

Just came back from pty and had an absolute horrible time. Been there 4 times and this is by far the worst. Women starting with 150 and hour and only about a handful of women at the veneto, habanos etc. Immigration is scaring these women away. Friday was dead because there was a call that immigration was going to show up. Lots, lots of american people there. I feel that the secret of Panama city is over.

Just saw recent post on 2-23-2011 with not too good news about Panama City. 4/9 to 4/16 are before Easter celebrations so is the town still happening then or getting ready to shut down for upcoming holidays?

I'm heading down March 17th thru the 22nd staying at the torres de alba across the street from the veneto so will give a report when I return.

[QUOTE=Darmstadter;1127789]I'm heading down March 17th thru the 22nd staying at the torres de alba across the street from the veneto so will give a report when I return.[/QUOTE]Just found another article that was published on Feb 28 about another FAKE immigration raid. Like I said from my last trip. Panama city is not Panama city anymore. SAD.

About 25 women, mostly Colombians, were discovered in a "prophylactic" operation offering sexual services in the streets and nightclubs, and not carrying any documentation. Agents of Municipal Surveillance and the Justice of the Peace on duty, Genaro Barcenas, were deployed in various parts of the capital. They raided massage parlors, bars, nightclubs and other establishments on Ave. Mexico and Peru, as well as Calle Uruguay and Via Veneto, among others. (El Siglo)

[QUOTE=MilesLong23;1127681]Just saw recent post on 2-23-2011 with not too good news about Panama City. 4/9 to 4/16 are before Easter celebrations so is the town still happening then or getting ready to shut down for upcoming holidays?[/QUOTE]Easter week is completely dead, there is Dry Law (no alcohol sold) from Friday midnight till Saturday mighnight. Everyone heads for the beaches, provinces, etc. Just a few bars open on Saturday, but on most cases the city is deserted

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1129322]Easter week is completely dead, there is Dry Law (no alcohol sold) from Friday midnight till Saturday mighnight. Everyone heads for the beaches, provinces, etc. Just a few bars open on Saturday, but on most cases the city is deserted[/QUOTE]Boca Torena opens at six Saturday morning after good Friday.

Arrived last night the 17th and staying across the street from the Veneto. Stopped in at the Veneto several times throughout the night and 10 to 20 chicas at any given time.

Walked on down to Habano's and it was business as usual. I'm guessing 30 to 50 chicas.

I'm here for 5 more nights and I just like PC better than san jose, CR. Maybe its a personal preference since I spent some time in the Military here.

[QUOTE=Darmstadter; 1135127]Arrived last night the 17th and staying across the street from the Veneto. Stopped in at the Veneto several times throughout the night and 10 to 20 chicas at any given time.

Walked on down to Habano's and it was business as usual. I'm guessing 30 to 50 chicas.

I'm here for 5 more nights and I just like PC better than san jose, CR. Maybe its a personal preference since I spent some time in the Military here.[/QUOTE]thanks for the latest update. Will be in town in 2 weeks and was wondering if the action was still good. Sounds like its still shaking.

Friday March 18th was a different story. A handful of chica's in the Veneto and I counted a total of 4 at Habano's.

Talked to a dominican I took back to my place and she said there was rumor of a bust by immigration so all the girls were staying home.

From what I can tell it will just be hit or miss. Ok I'm out.

Will report more when I get back to the states.

I will be traveling somewhere next week. Not sure if I want to do CR or DR again. Or possibly try Panama for my 1st time. What hotels are in the middle of the action and chica friendly? What are the costs for chicas ST or LT? Any advice friends for a monger traveling alone? I speak some Spanish. Please reply in the forum or PM me. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Beerdrinker;1135582]I will be traveling somewhere next week. Not sure if I want to do CR or DR again. Or possibly try Panama for my 1st time. What hotels are in the middle of the action and chica friendly? What are the costs for chicas ST or LT? Any advice friends for a monger traveling alone? I speak some Spanish. Please reply in the forum or PM me. Thanks![/QUOTE]I know that the Torres De ALba and the Veneto are chica friendly. I'm sure there are others. $100 st is all I know.

Met someone who stays at a place about 3 blocks from the action called city suites but I have never stayed there.

After a slow night Friday it was back to business as usual once the fear of the Immigration raid was over.

Many chica's in the Veneto and Habano's also.

When I'm on vacation I don't like to venture out much. I like everything within walking distance of where I stay so I don't have any experienece with other parts of the city.

Two more nights in PC then its back to reality.

How much is the cost for an hour with a chica? Where is the best pickup spot? Anyone ever stay at city suites? Is it chica friendly? PM me. Or respond in the forum. Thanks.

Hi guys. Need some advice. Going to be in Panama city with my wife in may for a couple of nights. Usually I slip away in the afternoon to "go for a walk". Any suggestions for a place to me to monger in the afternoon and a nice hotel for us to stay at, not too far away. Obviously I won't be bringing a girl back to my hotel.

I have been to Panama city once before and I stayed with a Colmobian girl that I know in her tiny "apartment" (actually a bunch of small rooms divided off of a big apartment where the tenants shared the bathrooms and the kitchen.) , not too far from Veneto hotel and casino. I was thinking perhaps Golden Time masaje in Plaza Mirage and stay at the Toscana Inn on Via Espana why Calle D. Are there love motels in Panama?

Any feedback appreciated. Thanks.

-zing

So I cashed in some AA miles and got a weekend at Torres de Alba in one of the "superior" suites. I've read they had some construction in the past, does anyone know if this is just a suite in the new tower or are there some upgrades for the superior suite versus the regular? The trip isn't until May but I have to start my homework now I guess, haha. Looks like I am across the street from the Veneto so that's a start. Could anyone provide some info on Texas holdem there? Is there actually some decent game play, any daily tournaments, and is there a full game 24/7? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Zing23; 1136233]Hi guys. Need some advice. Going to be in Panama city with my wife in may for a couple of nights. Usually I slip away in the afternoon to "go for a walk". Any suggestions for a place to me to monger in the afternoon and a nice hotel for us to stay at, not too far away. Obviously I won't be bringing a girl back to my hotel.

I have been to Panama city once before and I stayed with a Colmobian girl that I know in her tiny "apartment" (actually a bunch of small rooms divided off of a big apartment where the tenants shared the bathrooms and the kitchen.) , not too far from Veneto hotel and casino. I was thinking perhaps Golden Time masaje in Plaza Mirage and stay at the Toscana Inn on Via Espana why Calle D. Are there love motels in Panama?

Any feedback appreciated. Thanks.

-zing[/QUOTE]The best day time action is Boca Torena around the coner from the fish market. You might run into some of the campo girls. Boca Torena is the colombian girls little secert places to work they do not like to talk about it. Some men make love in there boots and dream there are between silk sheets oh ya thats Boca Torena.

[QUOTE=Darmstadter; 1135127]Arrived last night the 17th and staying across the street from the Veneto. Stopped in at the Veneto several times throughout the night and 10 to 20 chicas at any given time.

Walked on down to Habano's and it was business as usual. I'm guessing 30 to 50 chicas.

I'm here for 5 more nights and I just like PC better than san jose, CR. Maybe its a personal preference since I spent some time in the Military here.[/QUOTE]How much are the chicas there?

Hello everyone,

I am thinking about traveling to Panama city for mongering. Can you guys help me? How much a chica friendly hotels? And how much are chicas there? Any information would help.

Thanks again

Anyone at the VENETO now? I am on the 17th floor. Will be here till Monday morning.

Anyone know of any good taxi drivers? Everyone I've rode with s*ck

[QUOTE=Hammerin Hank;1137541]Anyone know of any good taxi drivers? Everyone I've rode with s*ck[/QUOTE]Yes ask for LUIS or JAVIER they work outside of veneto at night and are great guys.

Tell them them Cristobal from US says Hello.

[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate;1136255]So I cashed in some AA miles and got a weekend at Torres de Alba in one of the "superior" suites. I've read they had some construction in the past, does anyone know if this is just a suite in the new tower or are there some upgrades for the superior suite versus the regular? The trip isn't until May but I have to start my homework now I guess, haha. Looks like I am across the street from the Veneto so that's a start. Could anyone provide some info on Texas holdem there? Is there actually some decent game play, any daily tournaments, and is there a full game 24/7? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Texas hold them starts at 7pm. Torre de alba looks nice from the outside you have to walk up one flight of stairs to get to reception

[QUOTE=PaulGore;1136494]The best day time action is Boca Torena around the coner from the fish market. You might run into some of the campo girls. Boca Torena is the colombian girls little secert places to work they do not like to talk about it. Some men make love in there boots and dream there are between silk sheets oh ya thats Boca Torena.[/QUOTE]Whats the pricing like at Boca Torena? Is the fish market near the Veneto? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Zing23; 1136233]Hi guys. Need some advice. Going to be in Panama city with my wife in may for a couple of nights. Usually I slip away in the afternoon to "go for a walk". Any suggestions for a place to me to monger in the afternoon and a nice hotel for us to stay at, not too far away. Obviously I won't be bringing a girl back to my hotel.

I have been to Panama city once before and I stayed with a Colmobian girl that I know in her tiny "apartment" (actually a bunch of small rooms divided off of a big apartment where the tenants shared the bathrooms and the kitchen.) , not too far from Veneto hotel and casino. I was thinking perhaps Golden Time masaje in Plaza Mirage and stay at the Toscana Inn on Via Espana why Calle D. Are there love motels in Panama?

Any feedback appreciated. Thanks.

-zing[/QUOTE]Golden Time doesn't open until about 7:30 PM, although there's Miami Club and a massage place nearby that are open in the afternoons, or at least were last time I checked, two or three years ago. The Toscanna Inn isn't close to GT, although it is convenient, in that it's located right on Avenida Manuel Espinosa -- that street changes its name to Tumba Muerto as you go north, and goes right by GT -- maybe a 10 minute taxi ride in the evening. I wouldn't recommend trying to find a hotel close to GT, as there aren't a lot of good lodging options, and I don't think it's a good location if you're doing tourist things.

There are massage parlors all over town that are open during the day. Oasis close to the Veneto is one of them. There are also love motels. The ones I've been to are on Transmistica (I'm probably misspelling it) where it intersects with Tumba Muerto, which is fairly convenient to Golden Time but not to downtown. There have been other options mentioned here, including Los Arcos and Montreal Hotel, which are more along the lines of cheap hotels close to Espana rather than love hotels.

Zing, I'm having problems editing my message. Anyway, Toscanna Inn is close to Oasis. Other hotels that are close are the Veneto, El Panama, Torres de Alba, Riande Continental and Crowne Plaza. Oasis has a decent selection of women from 11:00 AM onward, so that might be your best bet, if you're looking for a place within walking distance. Veneto is a nice hotel, Riande Continental is nice if you get a room on a high floor (to avoid traffic noise), and I haven't stayed at any of the rest.

[quote=brother p;1138387]whats the pricing like at boca torena? is the fish market near the veneto? thanks![/quote]i paid $20 for the best looking 30 yo columbiana in the place less than a year ago. if you are a local, it's a little less (where in the world is that not true?)

this place is for true 'guerilla' style mongering, guys, and not for the faint of heart. the bar is hot, the crowd rough looking, and the long walk up the stairs to your 20 minute 'love nest' absolutely reeks of stale beer and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]. but if you have the nerve for it, there's no place better for cheap p4p in pc, and a place every true punter in panama should not miss.

best advise i can give, go during the day, and bring a wing man if you can.

[quote=rippa; 1138885]i paid $20 for the best looking 30 yo columbiana in the place less than a year ago. if you are a local, it's a little less (where in the world is that not true?)

this place is for true 'guerilla' style mongering, guys, and not for the faint of heart. the bar is hot, the crowd rough looking, and the long walk up the stairs to your 20 minute 'love nest' absolutely reeks of stale beer and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]. but if you have the nerve for it, there's no place better for cheap p4p in pc, and a place every true punter in panama should not miss.

best advise i can give, go during the day, and bring a wing man if you can. [/quote]thanks rippa! i defenitly go during the day!

[QUOTE=Brother P;1138925]Thanks Rippa! I defenitly go during the day![/QUOTE]The price a year ago was ten dollars. I talk to some girls in Campo Alegre in Dec 2010 and they told me the price when up to 15 USA at Boca Torena. I was there in Nov. 09 and the price was ten USA I was paying 12 USA for BBBJ and push. It is one of my forvite places. If you can get in there at around 7:00 am I found some real lookers hoping to hook up with a bussiness man for the day and that is the only time of day I ever seen them and Saturdays is a great day in Boca Torena you will find some girls that only come on that day. I am in China today and can not wait to get back to some tits and ass. The China girls have a different touch and way about them which is much different than western girls it has been very refreshing.

Fellow Mongers,

I have not heard anyone mention the newly opened second floor at Habano's.

The owner has a nice bar and working girls dancing and mingling with the patrons. It is a different scene than the one downstairs. You can actually talk, dance and grind with the lady of your choice. I actually met a real looker there and hit it off. We went dancing afterwards and she didn't want to charge me as she had a great night.

Treating a working girl like a human being goes a long way.

Anyways check it out.

By the way I will be in Panama starting Monday if there are any fellow mongers who would like to get together for beers and chicas.

Cheers

Just a bad imitation of Golden Times. Same routine as GT, same price as GT, just high mileage Columbianas from central casting with bad bolt ons. If you want GT quality, stick to GT.

Eight alleged members of an international network that sent an average of five Colombian women per month to Panama to work as prostitutes were arrested in Colombia, according to intelligence sources. In addition, the Colombian Department of Administrative Security (DAS) asked the Attorney General to request the collaboration of Panamanian authorities in order to identify and take action against three Spaniards who act as the "receivers" of the Colombians in the neighboring country (Panama). The network, which is also engaged in money laundering, was disbanded after a year and a half intelligence operation called "Operacióand Matecaña" which took place in the cities of Pereira and Armenia (west-central Colombia). The head of the DAS, Felipe Munoz, said the network employed expert "recruiters" to convince young women to be taken to Panama to work as prostitutes. In Panama, according to the DAS, the Colombian women were received by three Spanish citizens, who, according to intelligence reports,"own many nightlife establishments and hotels." The Spaniards would charge the women a commission to work as prostitutes in the of Colon (Panama) and it "represented an income of $10, 000 per month from each victim for the organization," the statement said. In Colon the network "maintained at least 50 young women, exploiting them in the bars, clubs and hotels in the city," which generated "nearly $500, 000 a month," added the DAS. The DAS estimates that in the past two years "nearly 120 Colombian women were taken by this network outside of the country (Colombia) , for purposes of prostitution." Only about 20% of these women were able to return to Colombia,"once they had paid back the money invested in them by the organization for plane tickets, food, and lodging," said the intelligence agency. From Panama, the money was sent to Colombia through wire transfers in small quantities, which could be in pesos or dollars, and were charged by the network's partners in Pereira, Manizales, Armenia, Chinchiná and Bogotá, as well as other cities. (Panama America)

[QUOTE=Pajama Sam; 1139341]Fellow Mongers,

I have not heard anyone mention the newly opened second floor at Habano's.

The owner has a nice bar and working girls dancing and mingling with the patrons. It is a different scene than the one downstairs. You can actually talk, dance and grind with the lady of your choice. I actually met a real looker there and hit it off. We went dancing afterwards and she didn't want to charge me as she had a great night.

Treating a working girl like a human being goes a long way.

Anyways check it out.

By the way I will be in Panama starting Monday if there are any fellow mongers who would like to get together for beers and chicas.

Cheers[/QUOTE]You are correct, three months ago the opened the top level and it is quite nice. Not many girls go up there but it is cool. Wsn't sure what was up with the dancers, now I have a better idea but still not positive. Closed Sundays, but the rest is open. Spent some time up there doing shots, excellent service, real nice bartenders. I believe they charge more for drinks up there (or maybe it was just the Patron shots we were doing.). I will out tonight wearing a white shirt blue and green stripes, will stop by habanos say Hi if you see me. Gauchos first.

[QUOTE=TravelDude;1141662]You are correct, three months ago the opened the top level and it is quite nice. Not many girls go up there but it is cool. Wsn't sure what was up with the dancers, now I have a better idea but still not positive. Closed Sundays, but the rest is open. Spent some time up there doing shots, excellent service, real nice bartenders. I believe they charge more for drinks up there (or maybe it was just the Patron shots we were doing.). I will out tonight wearing a white shirt blue and green stripes, will stop by habanos say Hi if you see me. Gauchos first.[/QUOTE]My understanding is the owner wanted to have a place for on-site P4P, mostly to accommodate the Marriott guests who can't get girls up to their rooms.

Are Habanos and Le Palace still closed on Sundays? And are La Bodeguita, Miami, Golden Time and Elite still open? Also, does anyone have the address of the new La Bodeguita, or can you describe where it's close to or a cross street on Espana?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Tiny 12; 1143302]Are Habanos and Le Palace still closed on Sundays? And are La Bodeguita, Miami, Golden Time and Elite still open? Also, does anyone have the address of the new La Bodeguita, or can you describe where it's close to or a cross street on Espana?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Habanos is now open on Sundays but Le palace is closed. La bodeguita, miami golden time and elite are open as well. The VIP bodeguita is on espana. Just ask any cab driver and they will know. Its about 5 minutes from the Veneto.

Thanks Snipps

Fellow Mongers,

I went to Panama a week ago. I took a taxi from the airport ($28. 00) and went to El Rey to buy a few things like water, vodka, mixer, yogurt, cheese.

After checking into my hotel, decided I wanted a massage to ease the stress of the plane ride. I called a girl that announces herself as Stephanie. She is Chinese / Panamenian and has a couple of girls that do massage only (with very happy ending). The cost is pricey ($50) , but the quality is very good. I have used her twice and both times attained explosive results. Very high quality massage followed by expert hand job. My last massage was almost 30 minutes of manual bliss applied by a nice looking girl. I didn't push for more as I was extremely satisfied. The massage includes scrub before and then a soap down to remove excess oils apres.

That night, Monday, I cruised Habano's. There were at least 60 girls there (did I mention it was a Monday night). The range went from 6 to some fabulous 10's with a median of 8, all ages too but a high concentration of girls in their early to mid 20s.

I also tried mundoanuncio. Com, I must say I was a little disappointed. Some of the girls had taken very good pics to post and possibly had some retouching. This approach is functional only for those who speak decent spanish so you can agree upfront on the type of provider and type of service.

The Venetto was full of chica's as well. IMHO I think Habano's has the best lookers by far.

All in all, I paid a low of $60 and high of $75 for the full service and $50 plus tip for the massage.

Panama is a great mongering destination. By the way, I just hooked up with a tour operator that will take me and a girl to the beach for very decent rates. There are some great places about an hour away with white sand and beautiful surroundings.

Monger on!

Whats the deal. Why is their no heads up on this. A Little advance notice for a newbie would be appreciated.

Le Palace is a great place, the girl charges $ 200. $ 250, place $ 200

I was in Panama last week, and had a good time. I spent time with four Colombians and all were great. Here's a rundown,

1. Moulin Rouge. This just so happened to be close to my hotel and I was looking for a way to kill some time on a Thursday afternoon. Moulin Rouge opens at 12:00 noon and has a nice bar in addition to good rooms on site. There were about 10 women there at 4:00 PM and I was the only customer. The price is $85 for 30 minutes and $125 for an hour, about double what you'd pay at some other massage places, but given the location and the quality of the facility, and the bar, it's not unreasonable. I went with Natalie, mid-20's, from Cali. Very good, girlfriend-like service. Moulin Rouge is next to Oasis. If you're walking from the Veneto to Via Espana and keep an eye out to your right you can't miss it. Natalie was the only woman available during the day that I would have gone with, but I understand the talent improves at night. And they have dancing girls then too.

2. Habano's. I went one night about 1:00 AM, not intending to pull anyone. There were a lot of women, maybe about 40. There was only one that I'd class as "9" though, and perhaps two 8's. I got phone numbers from the two eights, but didn't hear back from them when I called back the next day.

3. Le Palace. I only spent about 15 minutes here and the talent was dismal, considering the place's reputation. I've always thought the place was overrated.

4. Veneto Casino. After say 10:00 PM or so there was always good talent available here, maybe not quite as good as Habano's on average, but awfully close. Earlier on, forget it. I had a great time with a very attractive 31 year old from Cali. She asked for $150, I agreed to $100 and said $150 if the service is excellent. It was, and she stayed until I kicked her out of the room, so she got the $150.

5. Based on Brownman's report, I called [url]www.girlpanama.com.[/url] This was during the daytime on Sunday. I'd previously gone by Oasis, and the lady behind the cash register wouldn't let me see the three women she said were working that afternoon. I'd left my wallet in the room and she said come back with your money then she'd let me see the women. I figured they were dogs. Anyway, sorry for digressing, back to [url]www.girlpanama.com.[/url] I asked for the pimp's suggestion. He said try Danna, a very beautiful, tender 19 year old. Well, in terms of appearance, Danna didn't measure up, and she said she was really 23 years old. She looked like she was older. But to me she was worth the $150 they charged. She was really good in the sack. I later noticed Danna hanging around Manolo's during the evening, talking to her friends and on her cell phone for hours. I'm sure she could have been had for less than the $150 but I was looking for something else that evening.



6. My best experience was pulled from Miami. I headed by there about 7:30 PM on a Sunday, intending to drink a few beers, watch the dancers, then head over to Golden Time. Anyway, the place was dead. There were three women, one hottie and two dogs. I started talking with the hottie and decided to do an all nighter. The cost was $325. We went to Amador, then back to my room and drank and screwed all night. Then to Casco Viejo the next day and back to the hotel for more drinking and screwing. The girls told me things don't really get going in Miami until about 9:00 PM. I've been there on two other occasions in the past and then found Miami to be the most fun and best value for a semi-upscale gentlemen's club of anywhere I visited in Panama.

7. Veneto Hotel. The hotel has deteriorated a lot since my last visit. This time I had some noise problems -- I could hear everything my neighbors were saying in the adjoining room. And some problems with the airconditioner. But, given the location, the availability of girls in the Casino, and no problem taking women to the rooms, I might stay there next time anyway.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1144009]Habanos is now open on Sundays but Le palace is closed. La bodeguita, miami golden time and elite are open as well. The VIP bodeguita is on espana. Just ask any cab driver and they will know. Its about 5 minutes from the Veneto.[/QUOTE]Good to hear the Veneto and Habanos is back in full swing. How is the VIP bodeguita? Was last there when they first opened up; late night bar, dark and loud, ouch! Saw most of the same girls from Habanos and Veneto go there about 1 a. M.

Got in around 9. Headed to Vegas Suites for a quick shower and change. Hit Veneto, Habanos, and later Bodeguita. Acceptable amount of hot girls, it is Semana Santa. Lots of girls from Cali. Ended up with a hot morena from Cali, after a lot of negotiating, got 2 hours for 120. These girls are asking for 150 for one hour. Anyway she gave good service. GFE. 7 more days, more to come.

Walked to the Rey, a mercado, and got some things for the room. Checked out the Oasis, didn't see anything mind blowing. Crusied through the Veneto a few times during the day, dead as far chicas. Around 430, was sitting in Manolos having a beer and got picked up by two Colombians, probably 7s. Had my first threesome for 120! It was good! Spent most of the evening playing Texas hold them. By the time I got done, won 90 bucks, there were about 20 girls in the Veneto, not bad for Easter. Went to Habanos and met a gorgeous girl from MDE, got met her number for this afternoon.

[QUOTE=Brother P;1148469]Got in around 9. Headed to Vegas Suites for a quick shower and change. Hit Veneto, Habanos, and later Bodeguita. Acceptable amount of hot girls, it is Semana Santa. Lots of girls from Cali. Ended up with a hot morena from Cali, after a lot of negotiating, got 2 hours for 120. These girls are asking for 150 for one hour. Anyway she gave good service. GFE. 7 more days, more to come.[/QUOTE]Dear Brother,

What is Bodeguita is like?

I usually stay at the Veneto, so I have been there and Habanos a lot.

I want to the old Bodeguita many years ago.

I was looking for somewhere to go to meet non-working girls.

Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Brother P;1148469]Got in around 9. Headed to Vegas Suites for a quick shower and change. Hit Veneto, Habanos, and later Bodeguita.[/QUOTE]I am going to Panama next month for the first time. I am thinking of staying at the Veneto or the Vegas Suites. There is plenty of info on Veneto, but can you tell us something about Vegas Suites?

Is it worth it? No hassle for guess? Clean and comfortable?

Thanks in advance.

Hi,

Las Vegas Suites is a clean and comfortable stay. The rooms have full kitchens and laundry facilities. The view in the upper floors is better than Veneto's and they are chica friendly.

Monger On!

[QUOTE=Iddfs; 1148992]I am going to Panama next month for the first time. I am thinking of staying at the Veneto or the Vegas Suites. There is plenty of info on Veneto, but can you tell us something about Vegas Suites?

Is it worth it? No hassle for guess? Clean and comfortable?

Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Columbian Lover; 1148963]Dear Brother,

What is Bodeguita is like?

I usually stay at the Veneto, so I have been there and Habanos a lot.

I want to the old Bodeguita many years ago.

I was looking for somewhere to go to meet non-working girls.

Any suggestions? [/QUOTE]The club I referred to as Bodeguita is actually named Ah Che. Its where the chicas go now after Habanos. The Las Vegas Suites are nice. However, they do charge $20 per chica. Yesterday, hit Moulin Rouge in the afternoon, it has much better talent than Oasis, IMHO. I had a good session, with another Columbiana! I haven't had a Panamanian chica yet. Last night, hit Habanos and the Veneto, nice line up. After hours of haggling with different chicas, ended the night with a sexy negra from Cali. 120 for 2 hours. This girls push hard for 150 to 200. I miss MDE! LOL.

Panama City is a real point and click mongering location. You don't have to be in the know to find girls here and you won't need a guide. They are all easy to find in a variety of establishments. This report is for the El Dorado area. The simplest area in my opinion (but it depends on what you are after of course). In this area prices tend to be a bit cheaper than the popular places in downtown. Also, if you are worried about your Spanish, then you'll find the locals are very hard to understand (talk fast and with a strong accent) but the girls (all Colombian) are much easier. It's safe to walk around at night and taxis are cheap, although not always plentiful especially during the day.

All the main places in El Dorado have rooms on site, therefore no bar fines for taking the girls off premises and no dealing with the looks from locals with a pro in tow. Trust me, all the locals know the pros by sight. There are no Panamanian pros in the main areas, they are all Colombian, which stand out. I'm not sure what the technical legality of prostitution in Panama is but in terms of what is enforced, you can't pay for sex with a Panamanian but girls from Colombian are given working visas just for that, although technically for working as 'dancers'. However, the locals have a quite accepting mindset of P4P. Carry a photocopy of your license for the police, who walk the streets and will ask you from time to time. If the police or taxis ask you anything about Colombianas they are talking about pros. The term Colombiana basically refers to pros in Panama.

Firstly, with the taxis in Panama it is a little different to other countries. Here the taxi picks you and you don't get the taxi to yourself. You flag one down (even if it already has people in it) and if he stops you stick your head in, tell him your location and see if he agrees. If he agrees, ask how much (cuanto?). If you don't you'll get ripped off. Even when you ask before-hand if you're obviously a foreigner (appearance or accent) you're going to pay more than the locals, but not too much more. However, the taxi drivers won't overcharge you in front of locals (if there are some in the taxi). As of March 2011, I find that all trips inside the city should US$3 or less. At night they'll try and charge you more, but don't pay more than US$5. Also, don't get confused when they refer to Balboas instead of dollars, they are the same.

All the key places in El Dorado are around El Dorado Mall. All but one are on the same block.

I prefer this area because you won't be hassled by guys on the streets wanting to show you girls and there are decent places to go. Plus overall it's going to be a cheaper experience. If you get a taxi to El Dorado, get it to take you somewhere other than where you really want to go. Either ask for 'El Supermercado Rey en El Dorado' and go buy a coke, 'Niko's Café' and have a meal (this place is 24hrs) or 'Fantastic Casino' (no pros in this casino). If you ask to get taken directly to a place with girls, you'll pay extra for entry (that extra goes to the cab driver).

The places in El Dorado are:

Crazy Horse Strip Club – not a great place to be honest. It's next to Fantastic Casino, easy to find, they also have a website with a map. The strip shows are only occasional and not the best girls. About $100 for sex in a back room (I've never done it here). Some of the girls are OK, but you get hassled to buy drinks and get dirty looks when you take your time with your overpriced beer. Plus this place will try and wringe you dry. They'll want you to buy yourself drinks, the girls drinks, the girls extra bottle of water and if you want a private dance you not only pay for it ($20 or $30 from memory) but unless you keep tipping her during the dance, she'll remain relatively clothed. The girls won't approach you unless you give them a smile and a wave (or approach them). So if you have money to burn, definitely check this out, but if not just realise that Miami Club is just around the corner and far better.

Miami Club – another strip club / hooker bar. This is on the other side of the mall (walk down past the mall from Tumbo Muerto – the main road). Walk down the street with the McDonalds on the corner. Past the Fantastic Casino and Crazy Horse on your right. Take the first right (not the road into the mall parking area at Fantastic Casino). Then follow that (you'll pass another carpark entry) until you see Miami Club on your right. It's not far at all, and you won't miss it. It's free to enter. The guys will bring you drinks, overpriced naturally but not too bad. There is nothing happening (and only one or two girls) until about 10pm. There will be occasional strip shows, with decent girls. There aren't heaps of girls sitting around in this club but there are enough for the number of customers and the locals tend to just come for the strip shows. They range from average to gorgeous. You'll have to approach them or intervene as they walk past. The girls are all very friendly and sex is $100 for an hour with a massage. Typical strip club massage, not fantastic but not all that bad either. It's a when you cum your done type deal, but if you want to cum twice, just tell the girl and it should cost you about an extra $50, which you pay her NOT the payment booth she'll take you to.

Gold Fingers & Caribbean Center – these are two 'massage' places that are in the carpark of the Rey supermarket. Continue past Miami Club on your right and take the first right (this time into the carpark area at Niko's Cafe). You'll see them on the far left side of the carpark. I've never been in Caribbean Center because it doesn't have the best reputation and Gold Fingers (which is right next door) is good enough that you won't need to. For gold fingers, you'll enter, a lady will greet you, show you to a seat and give you a run through on the process. Don't worry if you don't understand her, here is the process. The girls will walk through in front of you and take your hand and introduce themselves. They'll have a number somewhere for your reference so don't worry about missing their names. They'll then line up in front of you and at this point you make think you need to make your decision, but you don't. Just smile and they will leave. The lady will return and you tell her the number you want (or leave if you aren't interested). She'll take you to a booth to pay ($90) and the girl will lead you up to a room. The rooms are small and have a massage bed (just the right height for a standing fuck) and not much else. She'll give you a massage and then sex. Another when you cum your done deal so if you want to string the experience out you can offer her a massage after yours. A note here, is that some of the girls actually give decent massages, one girl gave me a full body including legs, which was very decent. Others give very basic massages and use crappy massage tools. There is no standard treatment here, all the girls are different.

Golden Times – this is on the other side of the Tumbo Muerto in Plaza Mirage. Cross the Tumbo Muerto out the front of the El Dorado Mall and walk right for a hundred metres or so until you see the Plaza on your left. There is Popeyes Chicken on the corner. It's a small plaza so you'll see Golden Times without issue. This is very very similar to Golden Fingers and I think its possibly owned by the same people. Same prices, same process, same quality of girls. Golden Fingers is newer and from my experience a little more customer friendly. Plus Golden Times is right outside some restaurants so entry is not super discreet.

A side note for the El Dorado area is that daytime P4P is entirely in the massage places. They seem to be open by midday, but not sure of the quality of girls. But you can also have a look and leave if you want. The problem during the day is that all the massage areas are in not so discreet places. Plus you'll have the mandatory frisk by the doorman to lengthen the embarrassing entry process (for those more self conscious).

I'm going to hit the El Dorado area tonight. I have four nights left and I'm already tired of haggling with the girls at Habanos and the Veneto! My problem is I like them super sexy! LOL!

[QUOTE=Dalapeno; 1149193]Panama City is a real point and click mongering location. You don't have to be in the know to find girls here and you won't need a guide. They are all easy to find in a variety of establishments. This report is for the El Dorado area. The simplest area in my opinion (but it depends on what you are after of course). In this area prices tend to be a bit cheaper than the popular places in downtown. Also, if you are worried about your Spanish, then you'll find the locals are very hard to understand (talk fast and with a strong accent) but the girls (all Colombian) are much easier. It's safe to walk around at night and taxis are cheap, although not always plentiful especially during the day.

All the main places in El Dorado have rooms on site, therefore no bar fines for taking the girls off premises and no dealing with the looks from locals with a pro in tow. Trust me, all the locals know the pros by sight. There are no Panamanian pros in the main areas, they are all Colombian, which stand out. I'm not sure what the technical legality of prostitution in Panama is but in terms of what is enforced, you can't pay for sex with a Panamanian but girls from Colombian are given working visas just for that, although technically for working as 'dancers'. However, the locals have a quite accepting mindset of P4P. Carry a photocopy of your license for the police, who walk the streets and will ask you from time to time. If the police or taxis ask you anything about Colombianas they are talking about pros. The term Colombiana basically refers to pros in Panama.

Firstly, with the taxis in Panama it is a little different to other countries. Here the taxi picks you and you don't get the taxi to yourself. You flag one down (even if it already has people in it) and if he stops you stick your head in, tell him your location and see if he agrees. If he agrees, ask how much (cuanto?). If you don't you'll get ripped off. Even when you ask before-hand if you're obviously a foreigner (appearance or accent) you're going to pay more than the locals, but not too much more. However, the taxi drivers won't overcharge you in front of locals (if there are some in the taxi). As of March 2011, I find that all trips inside the city should US$3 or less. At night they'll try and charge you more, but don't pay more than US$5. Also, don't get confused when they refer to Balboas instead of dollars, they are the same.

All the key places in El Dorado are around El Dorado Mall. All but one are on the same block.

I prefer this area because you won't be hassled by guys on the streets wanting to show you girls and there are decent places to go. Plus overall it's going to be a cheaper experience. If you get a taxi to El Dorado, get it to take you somewhere other than where you really want to go. Either ask for 'El Supermercado Rey en El Dorado' and go buy a coke, 'Niko's Café' and have a meal (this place is 24hrs) or 'Fantastic Casino' (no pros in this casino). If you ask to get taken directly to a place with girls, you'll pay extra for entry (that extra goes to the cab driver).

The places in El Dorado are:

Crazy Horse Strip Club – not a great place to be honest. It's next to Fantastic Casino, easy to find, they also have a website with a map. The strip shows are only occasional and not the best girls. About $100 for sex in a back room (I've never done it here). Some of the girls are OK, but you get hassled to buy drinks and get dirty looks when you take your time with your overpriced beer. Plus this place will try and wringe you dry. They'll want you to buy yourself drinks, the girls drinks, the girls extra bottle of water and if you want a private dance you not only pay for it ($20 or $30 from memory) but unless you keep tipping her during the dance, she'll remain relatively clothed. The girls won't approach you unless you give them a smile and a wave (or approach them). So if you have money to burn, definitely check this out, but if not just realise that Miami Club is just around the corner and far better.

Miami Club – another strip club / hooker bar. This is on the other side of the mall (walk down past the mall from Tumbo Muerto – the main road). Walk down the street with the McDonalds on the corner. Past the Fantastic Casino and Crazy Horse on your right. Take the first right (not the road into the mall parking area at Fantastic Casino). Then follow that (you'll pass another carpark entry) until you see Miami Club on your right. It's not far at all, and you won't miss it. It's free to enter. The guys will bring you drinks, overpriced naturally but not too bad. There is nothing happening (and only one or two girls) until about 10pm. There will be occasional strip shows, with decent girls. There aren't heaps of girls sitting around in this club but there are enough for the number of customers and the locals tend to just come for the strip shows. They range from average to gorgeous. You'll have to approach them or intervene as they walk past. The girls are all very friendly and sex is $100 for an hour with a massage. Typical strip club massage, not fantastic but not all that bad either. It's a when you cum your done type deal, but if you want to cum twice, just tell the girl and it should cost you about an extra $50, which you pay her NOT the payment booth she'll take you to.

Gold Fingers & Caribbean Center – these are two 'massage' places that are in the carpark of the Rey supermarket. Continue past Miami Club on your right and take the first right (this time into the carpark area at Niko's Cafe). You'll see them on the far left side of the carpark. I've never been in Caribbean Center because it doesn't have the best reputation and Gold Fingers (which is right next door) is good enough that you won't need to. For gold fingers, you'll enter, a lady will greet you, show you to a seat and give you a run through on the process. Don't worry if you don't understand her, here is the process. The girls will walk through in front of you and take your hand and introduce themselves. They'll have a number somewhere for your reference so don't worry about missing their names. They'll then line up in front of you and at this point you make think you need to make your decision, but you don't. Just smile and they will leave. The lady will return and you tell her the number you want (or leave if you aren't interested). She'll take you to a booth to pay ($90) and the girl will lead you up to a room. The rooms are small and have a massage bed (just the right height for a standing fuck) and not much else. She'll give you a massage and then sex. Another when you cum your done deal so if you want to string the experience out you can offer her a massage after yours. A note here, is that some of the girls actually give decent massages, one girl gave me a full body including legs, which was very decent. Others give very basic massages and use crappy massage tools. There is no standard treatment here, all the girls are different.

Golden Times – this is on the other side of the Tumbo Muerto in Plaza Mirage. Cross the Tumbo Muerto out the front of the El Dorado Mall and walk right for a hundred metres or so until you see the Plaza on your left. There is Popeyes Chicken on the corner. It's a small plaza so you'll see Golden Times without issue. This is very very similar to Golden Fingers and I think its possibly owned by the same people. Same prices, same process, same quality of girls. Golden Fingers is newer and from my experience a little more customer friendly. Plus Golden Times is right outside some restaurants so entry is not super discreet.

A side note for the El Dorado area is that daytime P4P is entirely in the massage places. They seem to be open by midday, but not sure of the quality of girls. But you can also have a look and leave if you want. The problem during the day is that all the massage areas are in not so discreet places. Plus you'll have the mandatory frisk by the doorman to lengthen the embarrassing entry process (for those more self conscious).[/QUOTE]Lets get real Santa Fe and China town and the fish market area around Boca Torena are where the locals go. Your paying up town prices in El Dorado you might as well stay in the estados uniodos.

Was in Panama two years ago. There was a Bodeguita which is now closed and another Bodeguita which was not as popular. Went back a year later and there was one Bodeguita open. Am I correct in understanding that there are now 3 places open. One named La Che, one named Bodeguita or something similar and one named Bodeguita VIP? Thanks

[QUOTE=Mfins;1149398]Was in Panama two years ago. There was a Bodeguita which is now closed and another Bodeguita which was not as popular. Went back a year later and there was one Bodeguita open. Am I correct in understanding that there are now 3 places open. One named La Che, one named Bodeguita or something similar and one named Bodeguita VIP? Thanks[/QUOTE]The Bodeguita VIP is still open, Ah Che or Le Che is where the girls rotate to after Habanos right now.

Checked out the Eldorado area. I was there around 6. With Miami had 2 good looking chicas, probably 7 or 8s. Didn't pull the trigger. I made the usual cruise around 930. Veneto, Habanos, mostly the same girls. I checked out Elite strip club. They wanted 30 bucks, for all the domestic alcohol you can drink, no rooms on site. I decided to pass. Headed back across town to Miami. 5 or 6 girls. 2 hot ones. Had a session with another hot colombiana! LOL! I got to go to Cali. This afternoon fish market and Chinatown. More to come.

Definitely appreciate the posts guys, I am going to Panama for the first time in two weeks.

Checked out the fish market. It was pretty early, around 11. Had some good ceviche for a dollar! Decided not to go in Bocoterano or La Mayor. These joints look shady and I didn't have a wingman, or a 9mm! LOL! Headed back to the area near Las Vegas suites. Checked out Moulin Rouge. Nicole, the chica I sessioned with yesterday was there. Had a few Balboas and some conversation, but deciced not to repeat. She said there would be a lot more girls at night. Spent the rest of the afternoon playing Texas hold them at El Panama. Up and down, played for about 4 hours and lost 30 bucks, should have quit when I broke even. Hit the showers then walked through the Veneto. As always some cuties, but nothing mind blowing. Went back to the Moulin Rouge. Probably 10 chicas. 2 were 9s in anyone's book! I got the taller one, morena, long hair, sexy dancer. They wanted 125 for an hour. Prices go up 25 bucks at night. I knew if I didn't bang this chica I'd regret it, so I did! It was worth it! Sexy dance, CBJ, dfk, GFE, an ll around good session. Sole is her name. I got her number and hotmail. I may use it. I really want to go back and bang her friend! I don't know how that will go. After that I called it a night. More to come.

In the afternoon had a couple of beers at Moulin Rouge, but I didn't pull the trigger. A couple of hours playing poker. Lost about 20 bucks. Hit the shower, did some drinking in the Veneto, talked to some Calenas, not hot but good convo. Went to Manolos, seen the girl I meet the first night. We had some drinks, but I didn't choose her. Went back to Moulin Rouge and got the other hot girl! Sophia, paid too much. 125, but, fantasy complete! It was worth it. I went to Ah Che, it was packed. The guy wanted to charge me 10 bucks, if was free the night before, I walked. We passed Habanos on the way back, flashing lights, chicas in cuffs, immagration raid! Called it a night more to come.

Checked out Golden Times. You get buzzed in and walk down a hallway where the chicas are hanging out to a room with some armchairs. The girls come in and their all wearing numbers. You write down the numbers you like and you can sit and chat while you decide whether or not to pull the trigger. Overall the line up wasn't that good. There was one hot panamanin chica. She was flirting hard. I choose her. The guy explained that Americans pay more. I walked toward the door and told him I wanted to pay the local price, about 20 bucks cheaper. The guy gave in and I paid 87 bucks. The massage was good, like a pro. The sex was ok. I got het number but won't call.

Headed over to Le Palace. I wanted to see it after reading so much about it here. It lived up to the hype. All the girls looked good. 8s and up. All the girls had on sexy white stockings and panties with their as hanging out, plus the little chest armor type thing, whatever its called. As I sipped my $10 corona I was amazed. I talked to 4 chicas, all from Colombia, of course. All wanted $200 for a couple of hours, plus $150 to the house. For me that's too much. But I'm glad I seen it for myself.

After that, made the usual rounds. Habanos back in action, maybe 20 girls. Veneto good talent as usual. Called it a night around 1.

[QUOTE=Brother P;1150384]I went to Ah Che, it was packed. The guy wanted to charge me 10 bucks, if was free the night before, I walked. .[/QUOTE]What is Ah Che- is it a pro-place or regular bar? Thanks

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1150922]What is Ah Che- is it a pro-place or regular bar? Thanks[/QUOTE]Ah Che is a bar the working girls gravatite to around one or two. Before that the same girls are at the Veneto, Habanos, or Manolos. I went one night and it was packed! Some of the girls I had seen earlier, some I hadn't. One night I paid to get in, one night I didn't. The third night, they wanted 10 bucks so I walked. I was just a little frustrated with all the changing prices for Americans, I'm sure you know how it is!

What are some good places to buy electronics in Panama City? Cell phones or computer things in particular.

[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate;1151311]What are some good places to buy electronics in Panama City? Cell phones or computer things in particular.[/QUOTE]The second largest duty free zone in the world is zona libra in Colon. Cheek out the Ice Palace while your in Colon.

[QUOTE=PaulGore;1151517]The second largest duty free zone in the world is zona libra in Colon. Cheek out the Ice Palace while your in Colon.[/QUOTE]I need places directly in the city, just regular stores. Not enough time to make a trip to that place, I wish I could check it out.

[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate;1151629]I need places directly in the city, just regular stores. Not enough time to make a trip to that place, I wish I could check it out.[/QUOTE]OK, I don't do a lot of shopping and am not particularly price sensitive when I do, unless it's an expensive item. But through the years, I've bought a laptop, a couple of cameras and a PDA in Panama for a girlfriend, and I didn't think they were bargains. I could have gotten them cheaper in the USA on the internet. I don't think Panama's reputation for low cost electronics is deserved.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1151882]OK, I don't do a lot of shopping and am not particularly price sensitive when I do, unless it's an expensive item. But through the years, I've bought a laptop, a couple of cameras and a PDA in Panama for a girlfriend, and I didn't think they were bargains. I could have gotten them cheaper in the USA on the internet. I don't think Panama's reputation for low cost electronics is deserved.[/QUOTE]I live in Costa Rica. Guarantee the prices are cheaper in Panama. Could you tell me the stores you've visited please?

[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate;1151899]I live in Costa Rica. Guarantee the prices are cheaper in Panama. Could you tell me the stores you've visited please?[/QUOTE]Judging by foreigners loading up on electronics at the airport, it seems the prices of electronics must be attractive compared to other latin countries, but to me they routinely seem 10% to 20% higher than the US. If I have to buy something here, I go to MultiMax (Calle [email]50@Via[/email] Brasil) , but normally I wait for a trip to BestBuy or Wal-Mart.

I understand the best bargains are at the "chinos" in the El Dorado area.

Anyone know where there is an adult toy store in Panama city and is it open late? Can never find one ever.

Recently been to Panama went to a push button called Paris, it was not that much of a fantasy the place to go seems to be Royal Garden suites. Where they have theme suites with jacuzzi and stuff for 45us for 2. 5 hrs cheaper prices for otherrooms not suites.

On another note I am again dissapointed in Golden Time's quality but there is potential that is difficult to ascertain as the lounge area where the girls parade is definitely not conducive to conversations and making the deal. Its difficult to get them to agree to BBBJ when others are in earshot and at golden times there are always people in that room. The girls don't dress like they used to so not much of the body can be seen so you really can't always tell what you are getting despite the fact the rate is ok for TLN. All girls officially refuse to do bbj YMMV in the room and depending on propinas.

Took out Le Palace girls and realised I was being ripped off by waiters before. If you take a girl out then drink costs for the girl is subtracted from the house fee. The waiters don't tell you this but one chica I took out told me in the taxi so I WENT BACK THERE FOUND THE WAITER AND GOT MY NOT INSUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY BACK. As we mongers know every cent counts towards tommorows pussy. Service was worth the price.

[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate;1151629]I need places directly in the city, just regular stores. Not enough time to make a trip to that place, I wish I could check it out.[/QUOTE]One of the places where you can get cheaper products is an area called Cinco De Mayo. It's a large, somewhat modest shopping area with many clothing and appliance stores. It's about 10 minutes from the Veneto by cab. Generally I agree that you're going to pay more as opposed to internet buys you can get in the US. I purchase phones and have the local number set up when I get there, or purchase additional minutes. Pretty weasy to do. If you need cheap clothes (throw aways, as when a buddy of mine didn't get his suitcase) , you can buy cheap shorts and shirts for $3. $5.

Can someone let me know where ah che or le che is located.

Thanks.

J

I don't know exactly, but its about a fuve minute taxi ride from the veneto or habanos. All the cab drivers will know.

[QUOTE=Jareds; 1153894]Can someone let me know where ah che or le che is located.

Thanks.

J[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Brother P;1153896]I don't know exactly, but its about a fuve minute taxi ride from the veneto or habanos. All the cab drivers will know.[/QUOTE]It's on Calle Uruguay, I believe close by the Don Lee Restaurant

Any chance of bringing girls back to the Mariott hotel in Panama City?

Any nice placesfor picking up girls nearby?

Is it posible to bring in girls to the Marriott?

Any where nearby to pick them up?

Hello, all, heading to PC next week. Staying at the RIU, anyone knows if chica friedly?

Thank you report to follow.

I'm headed there next week also! I've read recently that RIU wasnt chica friendly.

[QUOTE=Skrabb; 1155234]Is it posible to bring in girls to the Marriott?

Any where nearby to pick them up?[/QUOTE]Habanos cigar bar right across the street, get there by 9-10p and you'll be spoiled for choice. Marriott is NOT chica-friendly however (not sure about RIU) , you're better off staying at Veneto (two blocks away, also great for pickup and much chica-friendlier) , or if you're locked into a reservation at M, most any taxi driver can suggest a by-the-hour establishment to get busy.

[QUOTE=Skrabb; 1155234]Is it posible to bring in girls to the Marriott?

Any where nearby to pick them up? [/QUOTE]Not unless they check-in with you.

Right across the street, my friend. Shangrala. Habanos Cigar Bar

[QUOTE=Kevin0219;1155519]Habanos cigar bar right across the street, get there by 9-10p and you'll be spoiled for choice. Marriott is NOT chica-friendly however (not sure about RIU) , you're better off staying at Veneto (two blocks away, also great for pickup and much chica-friendlier) , or if you're locked into a reservation at M, most any taxi driver can suggest a by-the-hour establishment to get busy.[/QUOTE]Thanks Kevin, Veneto will be the place.

Just connecting in Panama on my way to DR.

[QUOTE=Centurione; 1155282]Hello, all, heading to PC next week. Staying at the RIU, anyone knows if chica friedly?

Thank you report to follow. [/QUOTE]I stayed there recently, and my date was present at check-in. They did demand to see her passport and register her. HOWEVER, it's a large, busy hotel, and I saw several obvious monger / hooker couples, so I'd guess you could just take a woman on up to your room if she's reasonably presentable.

Just got back from two nights, stayed at the Torres del Alba in the new tower, really nice and a great view if you can get a higher floor, chica friendly. My two cents on The Veneto and Habanos, they suck! I spent a lot of time in the Veneto, nothing bunch of old chicas asking for way too much money. I seen maybe two or three worth paying cien for and they were of course surrounded by mongers at all times. Habanos had some stunners but it was so dead there on Saturday night and they charge 4 dollars for a beer, no reason to sit there, again the chicas that were lookers were all spoken for. Golden Times and Gold Fingers were cool, Bocatoreno was a cool bar to check out. Some of those Veneto girls belong in there charging 10 bucks with all the other old timers. Was still a good time and a pretty cool city, I'm sure I will be back at some point.

[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate;1155709]My two cents on The Veneto and Habanos, they suck! I spent a lot of time in the Veneto, nothing bunch of old chicas asking for way too much money. I seen maybe two or three worth paying cien for and they were of course surrounded by mongers at all times. Habanos had some stunners but it was so dead there on Saturday night and they charge 4 dollars for a beer, no reason to sit there, again the chicas that were lookers were all spoken for.[/QUOTE]Habanos got raided last week and they took out dozens and dozens of girls. It was really good prior to that. Hopefully the chicas come back.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1156838]Habanos got raided last week and they took out dozens and dozens of girls. It was really good prior to that. Hopefully the chicas come back.[/QUOTE]What do they get the girls for? I've been there, there is no sex going on, so what is it? Is it because they are not registered sex workers? What happens to the Columbianas, pay a fine and right back out? Seems like its all a show for the government.

I read through the forum but could not find any info on the Wyndham Garden Panama City. It is about 2 miles from the Veneto, but it just opened this year. Does anybody know if this is a girl friendly hotel or I am the first to go there?

I will be in Panama next week.

Anyone who is at the veneto Panama city please come back with reports. Would like to know if things are back to normal at habanos, veneto etc.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1157205]What do they get the girls for? I've been there, there is no sex going on, so what is it? Is it because they are not registered sex workers? What happens to the Columbianas, pay a fine and right back out? Seems like its all a show for the government.[/QUOTE]Colombianas are now allowed only a 30 day tourist visa to visit Panama, unless they are on a work visa or an education visa. Most of these working girls are on tourist viass, except for those at GoldenTime, Moulin Rouge etc. One of my friends got into trouble with the police and a lawyer helped her start taking coures at a unversity and get a student visa (and then a regular job actually). Another recently overstayed her visa and is now bared from Panama for a number of years. She was turned away at the border and had to go look for work in Peru (she hated it there). But she thinks maybe she can pay a bribe and get the exclusion removed.

Yes it is just for show, but keep in mind that so many things are illegal in most countries that you can still be in jail even if it was just for show.

-zing

[QUOTE=Snipps; 1157575]Anyone who is at the veneto Panama city please come back with reports. Would like to know if things are back to normal at habanos, veneto etc.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I was just there last week. Back to NORMAL! The girls were very cautious while walking around and preferred to take taxis everywhere. However, Veneto is very lax and is live and jumpin. ANy questions, feel free to PM.

I was just there last week. Things are back to normal. Considering it was my first time in PC. The girls seemed to be a little cautious as they don't want to stand around after 2am and prefer to take taxis everywhere. I stayed at Veneto and the girls are tolerated there by security. Very lax atmosphere. Any questions feel free to PM.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1156838]Habanos got raided last week and they took out dozens and dozens of girls. It was really good prior to that. Hopefully the chicas come back.[/QUOTE]Immagration is a cash cow for the Panamaian govt. They take the girls out of Habanos and down to the station. The girls pay $1, 000. 00 and are released. Most chicas know this so they have a $1, 000 stash available. If they don't and can't "work out an agreement" with the authorities, then they are deported back to Colombia with a stamp on there passport saying they can't return to Panama for 5 years. One chica from Cali was telling me she couldn't believe all the money she was making. She loved Panama cause she's getting $100 a whack compared to maybe $20 in Colombia. She freelances but is wary of HABANOS because of the raids.

[QUOTE=Jrsporsche;1158808]I was just there last week. Things are back to normal. Considering it was my first time in PC. The girls seemed to be a little cautious as they don't want to stand around after 2am and prefer to take taxis everywhere. I stayed at Veneto and the girls are tolerated there by security. Very lax atmosphere. Any questions feel free to PM.[/QUOTE]I tried to PM you but it said you arent a paid member or Something. In anycase. Please respond. To this post. Thanks.

Hello, I have been to PC many times and the last time I was there they raided Veneto and Habanos and it was a terrible weekend. You said things seem to be back to normal. For example how many girls would you say were at Habanos at any given time? Or at Veneto. Thanks for your help. Don't want to waste a trip back if there are only a few girls again.

Regards

Habanos had about 20-40 at any given time (after 9pm or so.). Veneto had about the same. During peak hrs that is. During the day, Veneto would have stragglers and girls hanging out w / the taxi guys out front. But Habanos seemed to be very quiet during the day. A lot of girls were at Ashe on Uruguay at night FYI.

Hi Mfins,

I was in Panama a couple of months ago and all was well. Habanos easily had 50+ girls on a weeknight and Veneto about the same.

Try Miami Club or the massage parlors as they often have diamonds in the rough.

Monger On.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1159001]I tried to PM you but it said you arent a paid member or Something. In anycase. Please respond. To this post. Thanks.

Hello, I have been to PC many times and the last time I was there they raided Veneto and Habanos and it was a terrible weekend. You said things seem to be back to normal. For example how many girls would you say were at Habanos at any given time? Or at Veneto. Thanks for your help. Don't want to waste a trip back if there are only a few girls again.

Regards[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Guess I just need to hope there isn't an immigration raid this weekend. Or even the threat of it. If rumor gets out that there may be a raid girls will stay home.

Whats going rate pulling a chica out of Miami or Golden Time now adays.

Man Panama was sooo fun about 3-5 years ago. Anyway, I will be there tomorrow. PM me if someone wants to meet for a beer.

Not tonight anyway. Arrived PC dead tired. 2-3 days with no quality sleep. Took the short walk to Venetto. I was quite pleased with what I saw. Keep in mind I have been in USA Rocky Region and also Minnesota for several months. So anything with a rump and does not look straight through me like I'm a lifeless Droid is very alluring right now. Picked a forward & friendly Cali MILF, agreed to $80 + propina. Took the walk back to Marbella where we were stopped for additional $15 on top of the $55 I had just paid for the night a few hours earlier. Has an adequate 75-85 minutes. She made good effort, I was tired but in desperate need of a human female. Then we went to eat. Enjoyed myself but not epic. Beat the hell out of a GOOD night in USA

I had a 18+ hour layover in Panama City (PC) when on my way to Santiago, DR, so I tried my best to check out a portion of what PC had to offer. First off, I want to thank GauntMan, Hobbying, Paul Gore, Vitera, Tiny 12, and Bowerboy for responding to all my dumb questions and providing me with great information.

Veneto Hotel. Stayed there for the night. A tad pricey, but the hotel and room were excellent. I made my first run through the casino around 8pm, there was a decent selection of women available. But, I was on a mission, so I did not stop and talk during this round. My second run though the casino was at late morning-thirty time frame, and I do remember seeing some women, but because I was half blind at that point, I really don't have much information to share; sorry.

Picked up a driver for the night and off we went. I told the driver that I wanted to go to the Calidonia area and check out Boca Torena and La Mayor. He just gave me the "Are you fucking crazy look?", thus, we did not make it to that section of town. I wanted to go because everyone said not to go, if that makes sense. During my career in the Navy, I was one of the sailors that would find the "Off limits" place's list whenever we pulled into a new port; and would always go to those places first. Which explains why I had so many "What the fuck" moments during my life span.

First stop was the Capri, in the Rio Abajo area. It was early, around 8:30. Ten dollar cover charge. The place was a good size and seemed well kept. The place had 15-18 women; some hotties. Price was $120 hour, or $80 for 30 minutes. Next stop was the La Gruta Azel in the same area. Two dollar cover charge. This place had more of a local feel to it, not as nice as the Capri, but more of a comfortable atmosphere. Around 10-12 women, at $90 for an hour. A couple of hotties in the mix.

Off to the El Dorado area, and stopped at Crazy Horse. I liked the look and feel of this place. It was about 9:30 and there were only 6-8 women at any given point. Five dollar cover, $115 for an hour, $80 for 30 minutes. One of the servers brought over a hot 19 year old dark skinned Colombian girl. She hung out for a bit, maybe because I was buying her shots of tequila; you think? She danced and played; I was a happy camper. One of the other girls came by and wanted to talk to her, so she left.

I was thinking that it was time to move on to the next place, but on the other hand, I thought that if I did not spent time with this hot beauty, I would regret it for the rest of my life. She returned, and she was hotter than when she left. I had a "Here we go" moment, which usually beats my "What the fuck" moments, and off we went. The tequila shots were working well, even though I found out later they were $12 per shot; credit card time. She was a pistol during rack operations and we played for the entire hour, they had to drag my ass out of the room; no regrets whatsoever!

Off to La Palace. No cover, but $20 per drink. Girls were $250 for 2 hours. First off, after I walked in, I realized that I was in Colombian ass heaven! I have yet to see that many beautiful asses assembled in one club since I started this sport in 1978. I drank slowly and enjoyed what my heaven would look like; even knowing that where I'm going in the afterlife, I would be surrounded by fat sloppy smelly asses.

Last stop, Elite Club. Thirty dollar cover, all you can drink. Broke out the old sailor in me and did my very best to consume all the vodka in the club; didn't work out. Many hot women in the club, was quoted $360 for two hours. Drinks for the ladies are at $16, I know, I bought one. I stayed here for at least a couple of hours and decided to head back to the hotel.

Overall thoughts: I like the fact that Colombian women ruled in the clubs. After my trip to Medellin last summer, I felt that the Colombian women were some of the hottest women in the world. However, I feel that the prices are cheaper in Columbia. I enjoyed the clubs, and I know I did not hit all the places I wanted, but I think I got a decent feel for PC and it was worth it to go out and explore. If I'm wrong on any of the women and club prices; I blame it on the alcohol!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1161368]Picked up a driver for the night and off we went. I told the driver that I wanted to go to the Calidonia area and check out Boca Torena and La Mayor. He just gave me the "Are you fucking crazy look?", thus, we did not make it to that section of town. I wanted to go because everyone said not to go, if that makes sense.

Overall thoughts: I like the fact that Colombian women ruled in the clubs. After my trip to Medellin last summer, I felt that the Colombian women were some of the hottest women in the world. [/QUOTE]Well Tom, it sounds like you performed a yeoman's job of seeing and doing about as much of PTY in 18 hours as a man could realistically fit in, and apparently wasted very little time sleeping in that hotel room! You are to be commended for a very thorough and entertaining FR as well.

As for your 'near miss' on the sights, sounds, and yes, 'smells' of La Boca Torena, you did sadly fail to hit just the kind of joint an apparent 'risk taker' such as yourself would relish. But that just leaves a little something to look forward to on your next run through PC. Your cabbie gave you that 'WTF are you Crazy' look 'cause they do not relish the thought of driving in that 'hood at night. I like my mongering 'down scale' at times as well, but must admit, it's probably better to hit that spot during in the daylight. The place where "Men make love with their boots on and. ' Well, you know the rest.

As for the Columbianas, I'm with you Tommy my Man, the locals are friendly, and their women are 'nice' enough, but even the hombres of Panama go for the chicas from that part of the world when out mongering themselves. They, too, know quality and beauty when they see it!

Thanks, again, Tom, for bringing a smile to our collective faces for those of us who know and appreciate the action to be had in PTY with this update. I will be back down there for a couple of weeks later this month myself and will return the favor to you and other members with my own update as well.

Hi Guys,

I am headed to Panama City in a couple weeks. I am a latin lover. Been to Rio, MDE, Lima, BA, DR and a few other places. How does Panama stack up? Can you guys point me to a report that can give me the low down? I appriciate your help. I know RTFF. I don't know about you but when I read about a place I never been it is hard to understand without some drection. Thanks guys! Happy hunting! PM if you like.

Jay

Several walk-throughs at Veneto Casino have been impressive. Colombian & local talent very enticing.

Have avoided Le Palace due to the US strip club style dim lighting, as well as the high prices for everything & everybody.

I did want to try Elite II because I have not been there before. $30 open bar cover. I over indulged in Rum. Same dim lighting & chicas in uniform presentation as Le Palace. I was not overwhelmed by the girls there but I found a couple that I liked. Spent a lot of dough in there, but I knew I was not likely to return. Prices are high.

Habanos is more to my liking. The talent there has been very impressive. In fact, I ditched a stunning favorite here to try Elite. Terms are negotiable as the girls are working independent as far as I can tell.

Quick stops in Oasis & Moulin Rouge were nice, but not enough there to entice me yet.

I wish there was a better street scene, although the girl from Veneto do hang outside. Also some lower tier girls at Manolo's across the street. I think uncovered BJ is hard to come by here, at least initially. And that is a deal-maker for me most of the time.

Comments & suggestions welcomed

It is on the lower level next to the Veneto Casino?

[QUOTE=CA Expert;1162319]It is on the lower level next to the Veneto Casino?[/QUOTE]Name of the strip club is Doll House, same price and quality chicas (more or less) as Moulin Rouge a few doors away. Not even close for quality to Veneto, Habanos, usual Colombiana pickup locations.

[QUOTE=Spiderrider; 1161960]Several walk-throughs at Veneto Casino have been impressive. Colombian & local talent very enticing.

Have avoided Le Palace due to the US strip club style dim lighting, as well as the high prices for everything & everybody.

I did want to try Elite II because I have not been there before. $30 open bar cover. I over indulged in Rum. Same dim lighting & chicas in uniform presentation as Le Palace. I was not overwhelmed by the girls there but I found a couple that I liked. Spent a lot of dough in there, but I knew I was not likely to return. Prices are high.

Habanos is more to my liking. The talent there has been very impressive. In fact, I ditched a stunning favorite here to try Elite. Terms are negotiable as the girls are working independent as far as I can tell.

Quick stops in Oasis & Moulin Rouge were nice, but not enough there to entice me yet.

I wish there was a better street scene, although the girl from Veneto do hang outside. Also some lower tier girls at Manolo's across the street. I think uncovered BJ is hard to come by here, at least initially. And that is a deal-maker for me most of the time.

Comments & suggestions welcomed[/QUOTE]As of last weekend (US Memorial Day) :

Enjoyed my stay at Veneto, but for a more inexpensive AND good quality (chica-friendly) place to stay, check out Torres de Alba across the street from Veneto; ask for Derek if you call, e-mail or stop by, he speaks excellent English and will take good care of you.

Largest choice of quality chicas by far at Veneto casino and bar (30-40 most nights at prime time [9-10 p], almost all well-enhanced Colombianas. Watch out for up-pricing (like $200 for a "two-hour" session that ends up lasting 60 minutes, stick with $80-$100 offer for one hr). If you're into blondes / non-morenas as I am, ask around about Vanessa, Yenny and Cristina, for now they're all there most nights. Virtually no BBBJ on offer, though $20-50 extra can be persuasive at times.

Nearby strip and massage joints (Doll House, Oasis, Moulin Rouge) not that much cheaper in evening, and girl quality not nearly as good, IMHO. Manolo's across the street worth a walk-through every so often, now & then you'll see someone hot. Comparing notes with fellow mongers, price & quality at El Dorado venues (Miami Club, Golden Time) similar to Oasis and Moulin Rouge, so I didn't go look for myself.

If you want to check out the other venues often mentioned here, have taxi driver take you to Hotel Ejecutivo ($3 cab ride) and dropoff to avoid an entrance surcharge at Elite nearby. Wait for the cabbie to leave then, as you face the hotel, head for Habanos first, walk to your left one block down the hill, it's across from the Marriott (chicas starting to come back [saw about 10-12 there last Saturday] after big immigration raid there the previous week). Le Palace (free to enter) is a one block walk on same street from the hotel, but down the hill to your right. You don't need to stay long to make connections for later (I got three phone #s in 20 minutes). To get to Elite, walk downhill straight from the hotel on the cross-street, when you get two blocks down to the busy street, look to your right for Hooters (down a couple more blocks) and Elite's right across the street (mandatory $30 but incl. All you can drink). Saw two or three blonde well-built stunners each at both Elite and Palace, all eager to give you their phone #s for later hookup so you don't have to pay the outrageous take-out fees. The girls themselves are expensive enough (one wanted $300 for two hours!) but they're definitely best quality.

My plan for a memorable next trip (probably July 4 wkend) : stay at Torres, check out Elite / Palace first to set up some of those hot blondes, then go cruise the Veneto. Happy hunting why'all

[QUOTE=CA Expert;1162319]It is on the lower level next to the Veneto Casino?[/QUOTE]I think its called the Moulin Rouge. I had three hot chicas there in April. There are more girls at night, buy during the day Nicole was a fav. Have fun!

I found your report very informative particularly about the quality of vent chic as while I have read similar reports about the veneto and hav been myself I hav yet to see the quality. I will enjoy checking out the venue. When you say quality is it as good as what you saw at elite and palace?

What was the service like?

[QUOTE=Sato San; 1162543]I found your report very informative particularly about the quality of vent chic as while I have read similar reports about the veneto and hav been myself I hav yet to see the quality. I will enjoy checking out the venue. When you say quality is it as good as what you saw at elite and palace?

What was the service like?[/QUOTE]Sato, not only is the quality of the selection just as good IMHO, but as has been said by others, the LIGHTING's so much better (normal vs strip-club dark). So you can really see the girls. Combine that with lots of chicas to choose from (effective price control) , no entrance fee (unlike the Elite) , no take-out fee (unlike the Elite or Palace) , hot live latin music every night and cheap drinks to help get her in the mood (for example, a bucket of five local beers for $6) , and you have an unrushed and pretty close to perfect mongering environment. The only reason I'll have to cruise Elite / Palace on my next trip will be to line up three or four blondes / non-morenas (my personal preference, YMV) for off-premises hookups.

As for service, didn't meet any girl there who was into anal; BBBJ is the exception, but can be had with a little extra surcharge (usually $20 and up) if the chica is willing (the liquor & small talk helps). The passion level of the sex can vary of course, but getting to know her a little beforehand is usually a good tip-off to her mood and the best way to stroke it. If you speak some Spanish, and know how to make her laugh & loosen up, you're pretty sure to get what you want. At your price. AND she won't be watching the clock while you get it.

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Kevin0219; 1162461]As of last weekend (US Memorial Day) :

Enjoyed my stay at Veneto, but for a more inexpensive AND good quality (chica-friendly) place to stay, check out Torres de Alba across the street from Veneto; ask for Derek if you call, e-mail or stop by, he speaks excellent English and will take good care of you.

Largest choice of quality chicas by far at Veneto casino and bar (30-40 most nights at prime time [9-10 p], almost all well-enhanced Colombianas. Watch out for up-pricing (like $200 for a "two-hour" session that ends up lasting 60 minutes, stick with $80-$100 offer for one hr). If you're into blondes / non-morenas as I am, ask around about Vanessa, Yenny and Cristina, for now they're all there most nights. Virtually no BBBJ on offer, though $20-50 extra can be persuasive at times.

Nearby strip and massage joints (Doll House, Oasis, Moulin Rouge) not that much cheaper in evening, and girl quality not nearly as good, IMHO. Manolo's across the street worth a walk-through every so often, now & then you'll see someone hot. Comparing notes with fellow mongers, price & quality at El Dorado venues (Miami Club, Golden Time) similar to Oasis and Moulin Rouge, so I didn't go look for myself.

If you want to check out the other venues often mentioned here, have taxi driver take you to Hotel Ejecutivo ($3 cab ride) and dropoff to avoid an entrance surcharge at Elite nearby. Wait for the cabbie to leave then, as you face the hotel, head for Habanos first, walk to your left one block down the hill, it's across from the Marriott (chicas starting to come back [saw about 10-12 there last Saturday] after big immigration raid there the previous week). Le Palace (free to enter) is a one block walk on same street from the hotel, but down the hill to your right. You don't need to stay long to make connections for later (I got three phone #s in 20 minutes). To get to Elite, walk downhill straight from the hotel on the cross-street, when you get two blocks down to the busy street, look to your right for Hooters (down a couple more blocks) and Elite's right across the street (mandatory $30 but incl. All you can drink). Saw two or three blonde well-built stunners each at both Elite and Palace, all eager to give you their phone #s for later hookup so you don't have to pay the outrageous take-out fees. The girls themselves are expensive enough (one wanted $300 for two hours!) but they're definitely best quality.

My plan for a memorable next trip (probably July 4 wkend) : stay at Torres, check out Elite / Palace first to set up some of those hot blondes, then go cruise the Veneto. Happy hunting why'all[/QUOTE]So I stopped in MR last night of this leg. I liked the girls in there this Thursday night Had a quality session with Sophia. Also goat phone number of Karla, very sexy & eager. I will call her when I return next week.

Now I am hanging out with some very sweet, nice ladies, non-pros, moderate chance at sex, in Barranquilla. But I can't surround my self with hookers for more than about 3 days. Just me.

Considering a day trip to Cartagena as P4P is minimal in Barranquilla.

[QUOTE=Spiderrider;1162879]So I stopped in MR last night of this leg. I liked the girls in there this Thursday night Had a quality session with Sophia. Also goat phone number of Karla, very sexy & eager. I will call her when I return next week.[/QUOTE]Moulin Rouge and Doll House both have great locations, but are DRASTICALLY overpriced. Talent at M. R. Is very marginal and OK at Doll House. Owners seem to be looking to gouge the hapless tourist staying in the Veneto who doesn't know any better. Much better quality and MUCH better value at other locations. It's a shame as they are nice places with great locations. If owers had a clue about the local market and some better talent, these places could be real winners.

Guys.

I've been reading the posts from as far back as January trying to get an idea of the PC scene. Myself and a couple of buds are thinking about going there for the 4th. We're seasoned mongers but this will be a first to PTY. Can someone give me an idea of the room rates for the Veneto and the Torres? Also are the mongers in any danger of being hassled / arrested or having their money taken during any of these raids? If so, I'd rather pay the extra money to go to MDE where the talent is a lot cheaper!

When I saw the prices mentioned by some guys in this area I had to take a step back. I want to see PC but paying $100 and up for a roll in the hay with a chica is against my nature LOL!

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=BlkPanther; 1163172]Guys.

I've been reading the posts from as far back as January trying to get an idea of the PC scene. Myself and a couple of buds are thinking about going there for the 4th. We're seasoned mongers but this will be a first to PTY. Can someone give me an idea of the room rates for the Veneto and the Torres? Also are the mongers in any danger of being hassled / arrested or having their money taken during any of these raids? If so, I'd rather pay the extra money to go to MDE where the talent is a lot cheaper!

When I saw the prices mentioned by some guys in this area I had to take a step back. I want to see PC but paying $100 and up for a roll in the hay with a chica is against my nature LOL!

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I believe you can get a corporate rate of around $125 in the Veneto if you call and ask for it. Torres de Alba is less expensive, you can check their website. Las Vegas Suites is across the street from both and cheaper still- although it lacks amenities.

As to the chicas, price-wise you should never pay over $100. In Veneto and Habanos they will quote you $150 but will almost always come down to $100. Golden Time in El Dorado is $84 for a top-tier girl (just be sure to have the taxi drop you off at Popeye's in El Dorado- so you don't get stuck paying his commission). There are also a bevy of lower end places with much lower rates.

Was in Panama a week ago. Was there 4 nights. Had fun one. La Che, Habanos, and Veneto. I made the rounds. 5 years ago or so things were much better. Less touristy girls much more friendly. Offered to buy drinks on two seperate occasions for girls. Went to the bar, by the time I came back only a couple minutes they were gone. Off with another client. Don't get me wrong Panama can still be fun but to me it has become very mechanical and the quality has gone way down. The hottest ones get plucked up by the old timers who rent them for a month or whatever and have them live in there condos with them. There are still some 9's but few and far between and those girls are very difficult to get through too. In anycase. Much better mongering spots out there besides Panama. Things just aren't the same there.

Does anyone know whether Toscana hotel and the Wyndham Garden Hotel is chica friendly. Please assist don't want to make the wrong choice.

Thanks

Will be staying at the Venetto 6/9-6/12, any fellow mongers want to throw back a few PM me.

[QUOTE=Jimboe7373; 1163327]I believe you can get a corporate rate of around $125 in the Veneto if you call and ask for it. Torres de Alba is less expensive, you can check their website. Las Vegas Suites is across the street from both and cheaper still- although it lacks amenities.

As to the chicas, price-wise you should never pay over $100. In Veneto and Habanos they will quote you $150 but will almost always come down to $100. Golden Time in El Dorado is $84 for a top-tier girl (just be sure to have the taxi drop you off at Popeye's in El Dorado- so you don't get stuck paying his commission). There are also a bevy of lower end places with much lower rates. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Jimboe. We got in at the Las Vegas for $82 per, including breakfast. I'm always looking to keeping a hand on my budget. I'll also have to sharpen up on my negotiating skills. I don't mind those lower tier places as long as they're safe and I can persuade a chica or two to rendezvous back at my hotel when they're off the clock. A good attitude and a nice ass matter more to me than a pretty face who thinks she's doing me a favor. You're right. I've got to remember to get dropped off away from the front doors. And remind my buds of the same.

One more thing that I'm not sure about. Do we use American dollars in Panama or do you have to use their currency as in most other mongering situations?

[QUOTE=BlkPanther;1164471]One more thing that I'm not sure about. Do we use American dollars in Panama or do you have to use their currency as in most other mongering situations?[/QUOTE]US dollar is the currency.

[QUOTE=Sato San; 1163782]Does anyone know whether Toscana hotel and the Wyndham Garden Hotel is chica friendly. Please assist don't want to make the wrong choice.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Wyndham Garden a couple of weeks ago and did not have any problems bringing girls up to my room. Just walk in and go to the elevator. Do not stop at the front desk.

I was returning to the hotel after 2:00 am, I do not know what they would do in the morning.

[QUOTE=BlkPanther;1164471]One more thing that I'm not sure about. Do we use American dollars in Panama or do you have to use their currency as in most other mongering situations?[/QUOTE]While Balboa is their official currency, the dollar is the de facto currency. I only received Balboa coins a couple of times.

NIce! Thanks.

While Balboa is their official currency, the dollar is the de facto currency. I only received Balboa coins a couple of times. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jimboe7373;1162962]Moulin Rouge and Doll House both have great locations, but are DRASTICALLY overpriced. Talent at M. R. Is very marginal and OK at Doll House. Owners seem to be looking to gouge the hapless tourist staying in the Veneto who doesn't know any better. Much better quality and MUCH better value at other locations. It's a shame as they are nice places with great locations. If owers had a clue about the local market and some better talent, these places could be real winners.[/QUOTE]Always looking to learn

I'm headed to Panama City for the 4th of July weekend. Booked a room at the Veneto- Wyndham Grand Hotel for and average of $107 / night. Called the hotel directly and they quoted $170 / night but if you are a Wyndham By Request member they have a big discount on-line. I am compiling a list of places to find chicas and this is what I have so far.

Independents.

Place Cost $USD # of Chicas Time to Go.

Veneto (my hotel) 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 70 After 7:00pm.

Habanos 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 40 After 9:00pm.

Bodequite 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 40 After Midnight.

Strip Clubs.

Place Cost $USD.

Moulin Rouge 85 ½ hour. 125 hour.

Doll House

Miami

Golden Time

Websites.

Girlpanama. Com 507-6887-2249 phone # – agency

Mundoanuncio. Com – independents

Massage Parlors.

Place Cost $USD.

Oasis 80 hour.

I'll be there for 4 days. Does this list look like the top places to go? Could you guys make recommendations if I am missing some of the best places. Thanks all. Report to come!

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1165542]I'm headed to Panama City for the 4th of July weekend. Booked a room at the Veneto- Wyndham Grand Hotel for and average of $107 / night. Called the hotel directly and they quoted $170 / night but if you are a Wyndham By Request member they have a big discount on-line. I am compiling a list of places to find chicas and this is what I have so far.

Independents.

Place Cost $USD # of Chicas Time to Go.

Veneto (my hotel) 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 70 After 7:00pm.

Habanos 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 40 After 9:00pm.

Bodequite 80 – 100, they will ask 150 Up to 40 After Midnight.

Strip Clubs.

Place Cost $USD.

Moulin Rouge 85 ½ hour. 125 hour.

Doll House

Miami

Golden Time

Websites.

Girlpanama. Com 507-6887-2249 phone # – agency

Mundoanuncio. Com – independents

Massage Parlors.

Place Cost $USD.

Oasis 80 hour.

I'll be there for 4 days. Does this list look like the top places to go? Could you guys make recommendations if I am missing some of the best places. Thanks all. Report to come! [/QUOTE]You have learned well, Grasshoppa! Will in PTY 6/30. 7/5, not my first time. I do have a question for the regulars though. I want to check out La Palace, they say the most beautiful Panama has to offer. My quest is to get one of the girls to come to my girl friendly hotel the next day for a swim, how's the best way to do that without getting them in trouble and me kicked out, LOL?

[QUOTE=Mfins;1163454]Was in Panama a week ago. Was there 4 nights. Had fun one. La Che, Habanos, and Veneto. I made the rounds. 5 years ago or so things were much better. Less touristy girls much more friendly. Offered to buy drinks on two seperate occasions for girls. Went to the bar, by the time I came back only a couple minutes they were gone. Off with another client. Don't get me wrong Panama can still be fun but to me it has become very mechanical and the quality has gone way down. The hottest ones get plucked up by the old timers who rent them for a month or whatever and have them live in there condos with them. There are still some 9's but few and far between and those girls are very difficult to get through too. In anycase. Much better mongering spots out there besides Panama. Things just aren't the same there.[/QUOTE]Very true, not many GFE types in PTY. Still some can be found in SJO, but most are strictly pros nowadays. Thailand is better suited for finding one as a keeper for a few days, but I prefer quantity over quality, LOL.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1165554]You have learned well, Grasshoppa! Will in PTY 6/30. 7/5, not my first time. I do have a question for the regulars though. I want to check out La Palace, they say the most beautiful Panama has to offer. My quest is to get one of the girls to come to my girl friendly hotel the next day for a swim, how's the best way to do that without getting them in trouble and me kicked out, LOL?[/QUOTE]Nixon, Historically, I haven't had that problem in Le Palace. The women had no problem giving me phone numbers in the open. In fact, one asked a waiter to come over and shine a flashlight while she wrote down her number. In Elite on the other hand, they're definitely paranoid. She loses her job and I think her visa if she gets caught. I had one get around this by writing her number on a very small piece of paper while she was in the dressing room and then she slipped it to me. Another repeated her number enough times that I memorized it, then wrote it down while she was away from the table. Assuming it's a cellular number it will start with 6, so you just have to memorize the last 7 digits.

I do not believe Le Palace necessarily has the most beautiful Panama has to offer. While the crackdowns may have changed things a bit, I'd hand that title to Golden Time. And I've usually been able to find a gem or two at Habano's or the Veneto Casino that would be among the hottest in Le Palace.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1165557]Very true, not many GFE types in PTY. Still some can be found in SJO, but most are strictly pros nowadays. Thailand is better suited for finding one as a keeper for a few days, but I prefer quantity over quality, LOL.[/QUOTE]Panama is no longer a fun, desirable destination anymore. Too many greedy Colombian pros there in it only for the buck and not the fuck. There are far better options out there offering much, much better service.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1165554]You have learned well, Grasshoppa! Will in PTY 6/30. 7/5, not my first time. I do have a question for the regulars though. I want to check out La Palace, they say the most beautiful Panama has to offer. My quest is to get one of the girls to come to my girl friendly hotel the next day for a swim, how's the best way to do that without getting them in trouble and me kicked out, LOL?[/QUOTE]I'd like to find a girl-friendly hotel with pool. What is the price for a single?

I assume La Palace is a strip club. What time does it open. I'm looking for where to go for some daytime action.

Jay.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1165554]You have learned well, Grasshoppa! Will in PTY 6/30. 7/5, not my first time. I do have a question for the regulars though. I want to check out La Palace, they say the most beautiful Panama has to offer. My quest is to get one of the girls to come to my girl friendly hotel the next day for a swim, how's the best way to do that without getting them in trouble and me kicked out, LOL?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1165652]I assume La Palace is a strip club. What time does it open. I'm looking for where to go for some daytime action.

Jay. [/QUOTE]I don't think there's much daytime fun, unless you're into massage parlors.

[QUOTE=Spiderrider;1165591]I'd like to find a girl-friendly hotel with pool. What is the price for a single?[/QUOTE]We stay at the Tower House Suites, about 5 blocks or so to the Veneto, two or three block walk to Elite II, Hooters, TGI Fridays and LaPalace. Has an outdoor pool, free breakfast, nothing fancy. Single is about $50 / night taxes included. Usually book it through Kayak, which goes to Easy Click Travel.

Hi Nixonbd,

I am into massage parlors. Can you recommend some of the best ones in your opinion?

Jay.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1165829]I don't think there's much daytime fun, unless you're into massage parlors.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1165831]We stay at the Tower House Suites, about 5 blocks or so to the Veneto, two or three block walk to Elite II, Hooters, TGI Fridays and LaPalace. Has an outdoor pool, free breakfast, nothing fancy. Single is about $50 / night taxes included. Usually book it through Kayak, which goes to Easy Click Travel.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. Going to try to get over there tomorrow. Tired of these taxi drivers jerking me around, with their shitty recommendations

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1165864]Hi Nixonbd,

I am into massage parlors. Can you recommend some of the best ones in your opinion?

Jay. [/QUOTE]There are a number and I've only been to a few.

I've had good luck at Hawaii Center on Justo Arosemena. This is maybe a 5 minute taxi ride from Cangrejo. Most of the women there are dogs, but I've come across two hotties there that provided excellent service. Cost was around $60, a few years ago, for an hour.

Oasis is on Via Veneto between the Veneto hotel and the Panama hotel, as is Moulin Rouge. The selection of women at Oasis historically, in terms of looks, has been above average compared to other daytime venues in Panama. However, when I ducked in the door a couple of months ago on a Sunday afternoon, there were only three women available, and the mamasan wouldn't let me see them, so I suspect they were ugly. See more details in my post below in this thread. Historically, service provided to me has been below average to average. They have a lunch time special from about 11:30 to 2:00 for $50, I think for an hour. Outside that time the prices are higher, around $80 to $100. The one time I went during lunch time I got really shitty service from a pretty attractive woman, and I attribute it in part to the lower price. I don't think she was motivated for whatever part of the $50 she got.

Moulin Rouge is a bit like Miami, a combination strip bar and brothel, but there's no stripping during the daytime. I've been there once and you can see my report back a few pages in this thread. At 4:00 PM there were maybe 10 women, only one of which was acceptable. Cost was around $80 for 30 minutes and $120 for an hour, and service was excellent. I liked the bar and the rooms. A better environment than massage parlors.

Caribbean Center is in El Dorado, fairly close to Golden Time. If the traffic is not bad, it's maybe 10 or 15 minutes from Cangrejo. Like Hawaii, it's been a while since I've been there, but the quality used to be above average. The price was around $80 for an hour.

There used to be a couple of places around the intersection of Espana and Argentina. Not sure if they're still there. You can search the thread and check the yellow pages for other ideas. My memory sucks, so if I'm wrong on prices I trust someone will correct me.

JayHighFive, One other thing, IMHO Golden Time is the best MP / brothel in Panama, but it doesn't open until about 7:30 PM. The options in my post below are open during daytime.

Thanks very much bro. I really appricate the help. What would you consider the top three. Five places to visit?

This is helping me a great deal!

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1166153]JayHighFive, One other thing, IMHO Golden Time is the best MP / brothel in Panama, but it doesn't open until about 7:30 PM. The options in my post below are open during daytime.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1166213]Thanks very much bro. I really appricate the help. What would you consider the top three. Five places to visit?

This is helping me a great deal! [/QUOTE]My top five picks,

Top Massage Parlor / Brothel: Golden Time.

Top Places for Freelancers: Veneto Casino, Habano*

Top Strip Bar if you want to get laid at a reasonable price: Miami.

Top Strip Bar if you aren't looking to get laid or are happy paying U.S. prices: Elite**

*Late at night La Bodeguita on Calle Uruguay was often better than Veneto or Habano, and I liked the live music. But I haven't been there since the action shifted to the location on Espana. Also, Che has recently gotten one or two decent reviews for freelancers but I haven't been there either. I think, but am not sure, that Che is also a late night hangout.

**Elite's gay choreographer is responsible for some first class entertainment. Elite is my favorite strip bar if I'm not looking to get laid on the premises. Others prefer Le Palace. The shows aren't as good, but arguably the women on average are hotter than Elite.

"Too many greedy Colombian pros there in it only for the buck and not the fuck. There are far better options out there offering much, much better service."
Hello, everyone, this isn't any personal attack to anyone at all, it just happens that this comment tickled me because I hear it over and over again.

If you are mongering you [I]should[/I] Know by now that they ARE in the business for the MONEY AND NOT for the fuck!

If you are looking for warm fuzzy from these girls, you are looking in the absolutely less likely place where you can find that (though it can be found, but good luck on that)

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1166380]If you are mongering you [I]should[/I] Know by now that they ARE in the business for the MONEY AND NOT for the fuck!

If you are looking for warm fuzzy from these girls, you are looking in the absolutely less likely place where you can find that (though it can be found, but good luck on that) [/QUOTE]No, I'm not looking for "warm and fuzzy." I'm looking for top notch service how I like it. I look for it all over the world. And if you think girls are in it only for the buck and not the fuck . . . then partner you ain't been to Brazil!

The truth is that I have been to Panama, and I actually enjoyed it the first time. Even did a report on it. But not now. Even Costa Rica is better.

And what about the guys that treasure the GFE (not me by the way)? Are you telling all those guys they have unrealistic expectations looking for that in a place like this? If anything approaches warm and fuzzy, a GFE does, and LOTS of guys want that my friend.

Sorry to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off, but I keep it real and tells it like I sees it.

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1166394]No, I'm not looking for "warm and fuzzy." I'm looking for top notch service how I like it. I look for it all over the world. And if you think girls are in it only for the buck and not the fuck. . . Then partner you ain't been to Brazil!

The truth is that I have been to Panama, and I actually enjoyed it the first time. Even did a report on it. But not now. Even Costa Rica is better.

And what about the guys that treasure the GFE (not me by the way)? Are you telling all those guys they have unrealistic expectations looking for that in a place like this? If anything approaches warm and fuzzy, a GFE does, and LOTS of guys want that my friend.

Sorry to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off, but I keep it real and tells it like I sees it. [/QUOTE]Again, this wasn't meant to start any flame wars or to attack anyone. I just ewanted to highligh the fact that many people who post here keep complaining about the cold attitudes of some providers. GFE CAN be had, but in the mongering scene, is a rare find. Myself, I consier myself a GFE searcher, I could drop a hot stunner 12 in the scale for a 7 that is known to me to give excelent service.

And no I'm not pissed off at all, I just wanted to start an intelligent debate on the subject that matters to us all.

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1166404]Again, this wasn't meant to start any flame wars or to attack anyone. I just ewanted to highligh the fact that many people who post here keep complaining about the cold attitudes of some providers. GFE CAN be had, but in the mongering scene, is a rare find. Myself, I consier myself a GFE searcher, I could drop a hot stunner 12 in the scale for a 7 that is known to me to give excelent service.

And no I'm not pissed off at all, I just wanted to start an intelligent debate on the subject that matters to us all. [/QUOTE]OK Gauntman. I understand and respect where you're coming from. I hope you see my point too. I mean, if a girl is going to be far more concerned about the buck and not the fuck, can't she at least pretend for a monger? Hehehe! I like Colombian girls by the way. I was just kind of turned off to Panama based upon my last experience. I'm sure that for other guys, they can go there and be in 7th Heaven. More power to 'um!

This is can very good for us Mongers. Panama might be coming back to life.

[quote]Director of Immigration Resigns (Finally.)

Tuesday, June 14 2011@06:24 PM EDT.

Contributed by: Don Winner.

Views: 53.

The director of the National Immigration Service, María Cristina González, told La Prensa that the USA government has not revoked her visa to enter that country, as stated in the local media today. Gonzalez said the last time she traveled to the US was last May and she had no problems entering the country. Moreover, she confirmed that she presented her resignation to President Ricardo Martinelli on Monday, but gave no details about the reasons for that decision. President Martinelli said this morning that Gonzalez would be replaced as the Director of Immigration, and he named police commissioner Javier Carrillo, the secretary general of the National Police as a possible substitute. On 8 June, Martinelli accepted the resignation of the Deputy Director of Immigration, Jaime Ruiz, who has not yet been replaced. Ruiz has been named in a scandal over the issuance of visas to women from different European nationalities, a case that is being investigated by prosecutors. (La Prensa)[/quote]Well, all I can say is "it's about time." I've been very critical of María Cristina González for a long time, practically since she took over. She and the people who worked for her used Immigration as their own little money factory, squeezing bribes from foreigners in vulnerable situations from all walks of life. Immigration has traditionally been one of the most corrupt organizations within the Panamanian government, regardless of which political party is at the helm. They need to fight that corruption with TRANSPARENCY. Nothing Immigration does has to be secret, confidential, or close held. They can (literally) put every single transaction on the Internet for the world to see. There should be regular and routine visits by the Public Defender to the holding cells where they (often illegally) arrest and detain foreigners. Any and all deportations should be reviewed and approved by Minister Mulino. Before they occur. That was the huge weapon used by María Cristina González. She would threaten to deport people which she could do on a whim. And if you refused to "cooperate" (pay hefty bribes) then they would put you on the next plane leaving the country, before you could put up a stink. Hopefully the next guy will be. Well. Less corrupt. This is a terribly important issue for every foreigner living in Panama.

[QUOTE=Snipps; 1166440]This is can very good for us Mongers. Panama might be coming back to life.

Well, all I can say is "it's about time." I've been very critical of María Cristina González for a long time, practically since she took over. She and the people who worked for her used Immigration as their own little money factory, squeezing bribes from foreigners in vulnerable situations from all walks of life. Immigration has traditionally been one of the most corrupt organizations within the Panamanian government, regardless of which political party is at the helm. They need to fight that corruption with TRANSPARENCY. Nothing Immigration does has to be secret, confidential, or close held. They can (literally) put every single transaction on the Internet for the world to see. There should be regular and routine visits by the Public Defender to the holding cells where they (often illegally) arrest and detain foreigners. Any and all deportations should be reviewed and approved by Minister Mulino. Before they occur. That was the huge weapon used by María Cristina González. She would threaten to deport people which she could do on a whim. And if you refused to "cooperate" (pay hefty bribes) then they would put you on the next plane leaving the country, before you could put up a stink. Hopefully the next guy will be. Well. Less corrupt. This is a terribly important issue for every foreigner living in Panama.[/QUOTE]I was dating a non-pro girl from Medellin who flew into PTY last year and was denied entry into the country to meet me there. The immigration personnel at Tocumen never told her why other than to say her passport was not in order. Complete BS. This type of discrimination and probably corruption has been operating under the radar for awhile now. Glad to hear the woman in charge resigned. But I wonder if the raids and denied entrys will stop. Alot of GOV Officials in PTY have operated this way for awhile.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1166585]I was dating a non-pro girl from Medellin who flew into PTY last year and was denied entry into the country to meet me there. The immigration personnel at Tocumen never told her why other than to say her passport was not in order. Complete BS. This type of discrimination and probably corruption has been operating under the radar for awhile now. Glad to hear the woman in charge resigned. But I wonder if the raids and denied entrys will stop. Alot of GOV Officials in PTY have operated this way for awhile.[/QUOTE]

Coincidentally, everytime this kind of stuff happens, a female is in charge of the Migra department. On a previous administration, the wife of some one important took the helm of the Migra departments and declared a Jyhad against all colombianas because her husband cheated her with one parserita!!

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1166585]I was dating a non-pro girl from Medellin who flew into PTY last year and was denied entry into the country to meet me there. The immigration personnel at Tocumen never told her why other than to say her passport was not in order. Complete BS. This type of discrimination and probably corruption has been operating under the radar for awhile now. Glad to hear the woman in charge resigned. But I wonder if the raids and denied entrys will stop. Alot of GOV Officials in PTY have operated this way for awhile.[/QUOTE]Yes, I am not exactly sure what this means but I hope it stops all this corruption.

I met a gringo here who is married to a foreign latina. He and his wife and kids are all legit residents. The wife and a group of female friends were rounded up on Calle Uruguay one night and hauled to immigration for dubious reasons. She is an attractive 30-ish woman, and I assume her friends were similar, but I don't think anyone would mistake them as hookers-except for policia looking for the immigration scam. I never got the story on how they got sprung.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn;1166802]I met a gringo here who is married to a foreign latina. He and his wife and kids are all legit residents. The wife and a group of female friends were rounded up on Calle Uruguay one night and hauled to immigration for dubious reasons. She is an attractive 30-ish woman, and I assume her friends were similar, but I don't think anyone would mistake them as hookers-except for policia looking for the immigration scam. I never got the story on how they got sprung.[/QUOTE]That's pretty common with the police, specially around paydays, if a girl sounds columbian, she will be stopped and harassed even she has all her papers in working order, looking to make some money out of bribes and the like, because they will start threatening with investigation, migration checks, etc, etc

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1166394]No, I'm not looking for "warm and fuzzy." I'm looking for top notch service how I like it. I look for it all over the world. And if you think girls are in it only for the buck and not the fuck. . . Then partner you ain't been to Brazil!

The truth is that I have been to Panama, and I actually enjoyed it the first time. Even did a report on it. But not now. Even Costa Rica is better.

And what about the guys that treasure the GFE (not me by the way)? Are you telling all those guys they have unrealistic expectations looking for that in a place like this? If anything approaches warm and fuzzy, a GFE does, and LOTS of guys want that my friend.

Sorry to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off, but I keep it real and tells it like I sees it. [/QUOTE]The Cane- I agree 100. The issue, with Panama now is the hardened attitude of the Colombians working there. Was there two weeks ago and some are just flat out rude. They have a sense of entitlement to them. They have become clock watchers. Now let me preface this by saying the good looking ones have this attitude. This is because they are fewer now than years ago. The average and below average ones are still very nice to be with but of course looks wise you get what you pay for. It is a real shame because 5 years ago or so Panama was non touristy, great mongering spot. There were so many hotties and they were delighted to be with a gringo. Totally different now. It is a shame to see a good spot get ruined. One thing I must compliment the country on is the service at bars, hotels and resteraunts. It has gotten 10 times better than it was years ago. Even the food seems a little tastier, too bad the putas don't.

Not all are functioning, like La Palace and Elite:

[url]http://www.panamastart.com/english/directory/night-clubs-strip-clubs-escort-services.html[/url]

Club Villa Fenix looks pretty interesting, anyone ever been there?

[QUOTE=Tp Horn;1166802]I met a gringo here who is married to a foreign latina. He and his wife and kids are all legit residents. The wife and a group of female friends were rounded up on Calle Uruguay one night and hauled to immigration for dubious reasons. She is an attractive 30-ish woman, and I assume her friends were similar, but I don't think anyone would mistake them as hookers-except for policia looking for the immigration scam. I never got the story on how they got sprung.[/QUOTE]Panamanians treats Colombians as Americans treat the Mexican scum.

The new director of the National Immigration Service (SNM) , Javier Carrillo, said he hopes that the people who have to complete a procedure in this institution will not have to pay a bribe or the use of influence peddling."We hope that everyone who has to address issues regarding their immigration status in Panama can do so on an equal basis," said Carrillo, upon the conclusion of a transition meeting with the former Head of Migration, Maria Cristina Gonzalez. There he learned, at the hands of Gonzalez, the functions and procedures in the National Immigration Service, he said. Carrillo also announced that "gradually" he is going to implement measures of monitor and control in Immigration. He added these rules seek to avoid situations "that the community could feel are incorrect." Carrillo took office yesterday in a ceremony attended by the Public Security Minister, Jose Raul Mulino. (La Prensa)

Editor's Comment: Ahhhh. Big sigh of relief. Now, let's see it Carrillo follows through on his mandate of running a relatively clean and corruption free Immigration service in Panama. If he does, it will be a first. This looks and feels like a good news story for all of the members of our community of English speaking expatriates living in the Republic of Panama. Sooner or later we all have to deal with Immigration, be it when seeking a "pensionado" visa or something as simple as checking in through the airport.

having just returned from pty late yesterday evening, i thought it might be helpful to post some very up-to-date intel on some of my favorite sites in panama.

for business reasons most of my adventures took place during the day / early evening, with one notable exception, so please keep this in mind when comparing this information with any of your own personal experiences in panama city. many of you more practiced punters will know all of these locations, and due to a simple lack of time (and perhaps testosterone) i was not able to hit some other well known hot spots such as oasis, golden time, club elite, le palace, etc. i will have to leave coverage of these places to others on this thread. and if you don't know all the joints i refer to in this field report, not to worry. virtually every cabbie here worth his license will. this is a city of 1. 5 million that lives like it's mayberry! i will also submit another subsequent report shortly with more details on some basic recommendations for newbies or infrequent visitors to panama city. but first, the news:

club habanos. hands down, still my favorite place for just the sheer ecstasy of beautiful chica overload. i know i get some strenuous argument from some of my fellow mongers when i say it is the best place on the planet for this hobby, with sites in brazil frequently being mentioned as surpassing this club for total numbers and attractiveness. having never been to that country (yet) i will have to humbly defer to those who know both locations. but i've mongered on four continents over 25 years, and for me this spot actually exceeds my not inconsiderable experiences even in the fabled 'man-heavens' of macau, thailand, and the philippines. to each his own, i suppose.

it has been about a year since i last saw this humming, thriving locale of pure hot, sexy latina freelance loveliness, and i immediately noted that it has been altered and expanded to be even more of an 'open air' affair, (no pun intended) with the only enclosed party room now upstairs on the 2nd floor. as usual, the possibilities were about 90% columbiana (that's just fine with me) with a few dominicanas thrown in for variety. i actually met one of the few true panamanian providers i've ever run into upstairs. nice, but paled in comparison to her incredible chica sisters from elsewhere in the latina world. there must have been 50-60 or more ladies here by 11:00 pm on a warm, muggy weekday evening, each more gorgeous than the next and outnumbering the hombres (mostly americans / europeans) by 2 to 1. lots of competition, so if you want to get those long, deep 'lustful stares' and smiles from some unbelievably sexy faces with amazingly hot figures, this is the place. about $ seemed to be the going rate. got digits from a 4 foot nothin' gorgeous spinner with a million dollar smile and arranged two actual hookups later in the week. stunner!

bad news was, as i was literally being driven to the airport by my wingman / local cabbie very early in the am just yesterday, a raid was in full force. my man apologized for being a few minutes late due to all the mandatory road stops. seems the policia had ringed the downtown area with a double or even triple cordon of checkpoints on the streets, conducting yet another immigration raid, with club h apparently at the epicenter. this started about 2:15 am he reported from one of his police buddies, and we were stopped twice at checkpoints on our way out about 5:30 am. i saw a couple of hapless, nice looking providers up against a squad car being questioned or detained. i hate that!

immigration raids are frequently the topic of discussion at the club with the chicas, but at least until this happened, it did not seem to dampen the action.

golden spa. tried a place for service that i'd only scoped out last year. open 24 hours and in a bit of a residential / industrial suburb, you park in back behind a blue building, and the price is. 90 for an hour of a bit of a massage and other 'attentions'. i was permitted to select from a hastily drawn line-up of 8 or so girls about 3 pm in the afternoon. i made my selection for no other reason than she bore an amazing likeness to a young lady i'd admired on the flight on the way into pty! daniela stated she was 27, columbiana, of course, and definitely a hot natural body a bit on the healthy side when fully unclothed. everything was available, including quite a bit of gfe action, dfk, manual penetration, etc. but when i inquired about greek lessons, she told me the price was an additional $. when i demurred, she asked what i was willing to pay, and when i said. 20, she laughed politely and that was the end of that negotiation! in retrospect, i suspect. 50 or so would have done the trick, but i didn't think she was worth it. the other providers in evidence were early 30's or so, a bit professional looking with a lot of artificial enhancement, but solid 7's and 8's. just not my cup of tea.

gruta azul. has been good in the past, but was dead beyond belief at 2 pm on a weekend afternoon, when the 4 or 5 chicas i saw in residence were apparently only then beginning to wake up and a lot more interested in the hot meal just delivered. we got barely a disinterested glance. pass.

la gloria sucursal del cielo. i'd run into a very nice gfe experience last year in this place with karina, a 32 year old tight bodied spinner. she had bolt ons but they were reasonable in size, exceptionally well done (kudos to her surgeon!) and was so damn good i just had to break my rule on that subject. the way these ladies must come in and out of columbia, i really didn't expect to see her here again, especially during the day. but i confirmed with the bar tender that yes, she still worked there, but only nightssome. i arranged my schedule so my one and only true late night adventure would include this place. and lo and behold, about 7:30 as i walked in, there was my little angel. as beautiful and attentive as ever, she seemed to trump even her considerable previous gfe skills. she professed to remember me very well, and recounted some minute details of our first encounter. she told me they rarely see anglos in clubs like this, especially someone who can carry on a reasonable conversation in spanish. at any rate, the place was dead, with about a dozen guys and perhaps as many chicas. i consider this place to be one of the few real values left in pty, especially when considering price vs. quality. they have a unique pricing structure of. 17 for 10 minutes, .34 for 20, and. 51 for 30 minutes. i usually like an hour or more, and karina never rushes you, but i simply cannot help myself when in her presence and 30 minutes fully drained my abilities. she is small, athletic, with a true rock hard apple butt, yet can be great at dfk and all sorts of other stimulation. bj is mostly, though not completely covered, and greek is off the menu. god, i do hope to see her once again. the ladies here are late 20's to early 30's with a few dominicanas, and mostly solid 7's. 8's and even a couple of 9's in my opinion. you can sit and drink / chat with the chicas as long as you want, and no high priced ladies' drinks. definitely not high pressure, but very friendly. you pay your fee and retire to a clean room in back whenever the mood strikes you.

la boca torrena / la mayor. i lump these two hot spots together as they are literally next door to each other in casco viejo, and though different types of clubs in many respects, somewhat similar in others. first, la mayor.

this place wasn't open on my last visit a year ago and i was eager to see what it was all about. open by 2 pm or so each day, it has your 'regulation' dance floor and the obligatory pole for the chicas. you pay $3 to get in but it pretty much covers your first drink. an extra 50 cents for a panama. they stamp your hand and you can get back in and out at ease. a nice feature when you want to slip next door to check out la boca torrena for a while. there are chicas, of course at la mayor, and many of them are pretty damn nice looking, with the usual columbianas and dominicanas. many seemed quite 'healthy' however, and i don't mean fat, just tall and well filled out, but i did see one particularly nice spinner. i finally got one of the providers to tell me how the pricing worked as we watched one bored chica after another do the mandatory two-dance minimum on stage. sorry, but for as sexy as they are, latinas just cannot hold a candle to american exotic dancers in my opinion. they 'stomp' more than dance, and they hug that pole like it's some kind of life-line. anyway, i digress. pricing was. 17 for 15 minutes and. 30 for 30 minutes in private rooms upstairs which i was told were very clean. and all of this without any clothing. seemed a quite fair price vs quality ratio, but i could not understand how these girls maintained all those healthy figures! not 'hungry' for business at all, they were totally unaggressive, usually just sitting by themselves or in small groups, looking quite bored. at first i thought it was just me, and some shyness about 'gringo encounters' but i noticed the local cholos got the same damn treatment. maybe it gets better in the evening. well worth a visit, however.

la b-t, right next door is about as low-down mongering as i've ever encountered in any 'organized' establishment. on my visits last year i had this large local as my wing-man, and still felt i was right on the edge at times. but throwing caution to the wind, i hit this place numerous times solo this go-round, always during the day or early evening. at the risk of repeating a lot of information many of you already know, it's just as dark, dank, and reeking of stale beer and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] as ever. but i found early mornings particularly productive (open 24 hours, but i was there as early as 7 am some mornings). at that time there are still 30 or more chicas and very few cholos. i met a columbiana that struck my fancy and arranged for take-out the following morning. true to her word, she was there at 7 when i arrived and we hit a no-tel for. 11/3 hours. we negotiated to. 50 for what wound up being much longer than an hour of fun, and a real gfe experience, with absolutely everything on the table. a funny and all around charming lady as well. was a school teacher from cali in need of money. she admitted to being 45, and i know what you are thinking, but honest to god, she was all natural, and had a certain italian look about her. i would have bet money at 28 yo, maximum. her name was gabriela, and i got digits and even e-mail, but never got a chance to repeat, much to my chagrin.

she was relieved to participate in a one hour take-out, as i believe most of the ladies of la b-t are, with pricing varying from. 40..60 for most of the providers, and this is before any serious negotiations. a 10 minute run upstairs at la boca t. will run you. 15, but the rooms are disgusting, and i believe most girls take care of business with as much of their clothing on as physically possibly when using the local facility. none i met liked it at all! but the bar scene, with dozens and dozens of chicas constantly coming in and out, along with a definitely downscale clientele to match, is truly something to behold. as an obvious anglo at well over six feet and blonde hair and beard, i got more than my fair share of stares, mostly from the ladies, and once again, of the most lustful variety. i was told whites, and even black americans were very rare here, and i received a lot of caresses, smiles, and even a fair share of groping as i passed through the crowd, some even quite aggressive. still as much variety as ever, with a lot of young, dull eyed damas as well as aging pros, little spinners and not so little chunkies. it takes a while, but can usually spot an acceptable provider, at least to my tastes. and if not, just wander on back to la mayor for a while.

street action on calle uruguay. just for fun, my wing man and i toured this well know street for putas de la calle around midnight one evening. most were panamanias, with a few columbianas and even some transvestites thrown in for 'fun'. pricing ran. 20 to. 80 for a really hot looking 'quweko' or tranny. nothing to see here folks, just move along.

sorry for the length of my fr, but i hope it jogs a few good memories, and provides some last minute info for any fellow punters in, or on their way shortly to pty. have a good time, it's very hard not too.

What are the going rates from PTY airport to the Veneto / Belle Vista area? Arrive next week.

I also understand they have done away with the $5 entry fee at the airport?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd; 1168659]What are the going rates from PTY airport to the Veneto / Belle Vista area? Arrive next week.

I also understand they have done away with the $5 entry fee at the airport?

Thanks. [/QUOTE]I just paid $25, but I'm using a cabbie I've known for a long time. And my trip was from PTY to the Belle Vista area. Might be getting a deal (or maybe NOT!)

FYI, cab rides within the city proper should never more than about 3 bucks. If you are paying much more than that, you are paying the 'gringo surcharge'. As always, ask before you pull away from the curb.

No entry fee, either.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd; 1168659]What are the going rates from PTY airport to the Veneto / Belle Vista area? Arrive next week.

I also understand they have done away with the $5 entry fee at the airport?

Thanks. [/QUOTE]Go to the 2nd level departure area and take a cab thats delivering fares. They need a fare back to the city. $10. 00 to Venetto. $25. 00 or more if you use one from the depature area. No more $5. 00 tourist card.

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1168667]I just paid $25, but I'm using a cabbie I've known for a long time. And my trip was from PTY to the Belle Vista area. Might be getting a deal (or maybe NOT!)

FYI, cab rides within the city proper should never more than about 3 bucks. If you are paying much more than that, you are paying the 'gringo surcharge'. As always, ask before you pull away from the curb.

No entry fee, either. [/QUOTE]Thanks, not a newbie, just sorting out the latest trends. I agree, never take a Veneto / hotel cab, walk down the block and get one passing by.

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1168667]I just paid $25, but I'm using a cabbie I've known for a long time. And my trip was from PTY to the Belle Vista area. Might be getting a deal (or maybe NOT!)

FYI, cab rides within the city proper should never more than about 3 bucks. If you are paying much more than that, you are paying the 'gringo surcharge'. As always, ask before you pull away from the curb.

No entry fee, either.[/QUOTE]I was there in mid-May and paid $28 to get to the Veneto area, I took a cab I found on my trip when I went to the airport, he charged me $20.

The Veneto quoted me a taxi for $30 plus 7% tax. I guess I should just get a taxi at the airport. Seem a little cheaper.

Jay.

[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate;1169045]I was there in mid-May and paid $28 to get to the Veneto area, I took a cab I found on my trip when I went to the airport, he charged me $20.[/QUOTE]

Moulin Rouge, Doll House, and Habano's Closed Due To Drug Sales.

Thursday, June 23 2011@04:47 PM COT.

The nights of fantasy on Via Veneto have been canceled since last Saturday. Two of the three sites dedicated to presenting "stripper shows" remain closed. The regular customers, both local and foreign, who frequented the Moulin Rouge and the Doll House, will have to wait to see the erotic and sensual dance of the girls who brighten the environment. Javier Caraballo, Panama's Anti Drug Prosecutor, told El Siglo that the clubs remain under investigation. In both places, the Directorate of Judicial Investigation (DIJ) , in conjunction with the Anti Drug Prosecutor's Office found people who were engaged in the sale of cocaine and the drug known as 'LSD'. In this operation, called Fiesta. 35 people were arrested, including tourists. Eight people remain in custody and under investigation. The authorities believe they are linked to the sale of narcotics. According to the prosecutor Caraballo, the 52 women who were dedicated to dancing and the "stripper show" had their entertainer's visas and permits. He said the operation, which also searched Habano's in the banking district near Calle 50, was carried out due to the persistent allegations of drug sales. (El Siglo)

Fellow Mongers,

I just spoke to my regular girl in Panama and she had just spent four days in jail.

She had been upstairs (Club Foto) located in the second floor of Habanos when a huge law enforcement raid took place. Apparently they were looking for drugs and found a distribution network among the servers in the Habanos, first floor.

As a result everyone spent time in the slammer while they interrogated and sorted it all out. I understand the place was closed or is still closed.

All the working girls are in the clubs like La Bodeguita and Ache (H).

So, discretion is advised when visiting Habanos. I would probably make it a short stop to pick up talent and then move to a bar or restaurant nearby.

According to my chica, this has created a glut as chica's are scrambling for places to perch to look for work. I believe this is an opportunity to negotiate prices down from their current inflated spot. I think I would open with $50 for one shot.

The Venetto is very selective on the amount and quality of chicas it allows in right now, so that is also a limited alternative.

I have some digits available if you need help.

Monger On

[QUOTE=.

According to my chica, this has created a glut as chica's are scrambling for places to perch to look for work. I believe this is an opportunity to negotiate prices down from their current inflated spot. I think I would open with $50 for one shot. [/QUOTE]Panama Sam. Thanks for the update. Good to know, but I am wondering on how this will create a Glut. If anything all the girls will move to one bar. (A Che) and so will all the guys looking for them. Most of the girls from Habanos go over to A Che Around midnight anyway.

In addition, what usually happens after these raids is the girls hide out. Stay in there apts et. I have been down twice the night after immigration raids and every bar was virtually dead. The girls tend to hide out for a few days till things quiet down. The real problem is the long term future of Panama as these raids drug related or not are becoming more frequent.

I'm headed down on June 30th. Do you think Habanos will be open then. How long does it take for things to get back to normal after these raids. This will be my first time to Panama.

Jay.

[QUOTE=Pajama Sam; 1169628]Fellow Mongers,

I just spoke to my regular girl in Panama and she had just spent four days in jail.

She had been upstairs (Club Foto) located in the second floor of Habanos when a huge law enforcement raid took place. Apparently they were looking for drugs and found a distribution network among the servers in the Habanos, first floor.

As a result everyone spent time in the slammer while they interrogated and sorted it all out. I understand the place was closed or is still closed.

All the working girls are in the clubs like La Bodeguita and Ache (H).

So, discretion is advised when visiting Habanos. I would probably make it a short stop to pick up talent and then move to a bar or restaurant nearby.

According to my chica, this has created a glut as chica's are scrambling for places to perch to look for work. I believe this is an opportunity to negotiate prices down from their current inflated spot. I think I would open with $50 for one shot.

The Venetto is very selective on the amount and quality of chicas it allows in right now, so that is also a limited alternative.

I have some digits available if you need help.

Monger On[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1169843]I'm headed down on June 30th. Do you think Habanos will be open then. How long does it take for things to get back to normal after these raids. This will be my first time to Panama.

Jay. [/QUOTE]Rumor is that Habanos will be open this Sat (today). Have to wait and see though. Girls are back in the Veneto and late night at Ahche is still good.

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1169364]The Veneto quoted me a taxi for $30 plus 7% tax. I guess I should just get a taxi at the airport. Seem a little cheaper.

Jay. [/QUOTE]If you go upstairs to the departure area you can get a cab to the Veneto for 15. 00-20. 00, I read that on a previous post and tried it last night and paid 17. 00

In Panama City now, staying at the Veneto, if anyone wants to have a drink and B S about mongering leave me a msg on room phone in room number 824

Just wondering why not just go to Columbia instead of going to Panama for mongering? Is it safety? I am considering going to Bogota for the first time.

[QUOTE=Ac Danny;1169967]In Panama City now, staying at the Veneto, if anyone wants to have a drink and B S about mongering leave me a msg on room phone in room number 824[/QUOTE]Hows the current scene?

Hi,

My regular chica stated that the girls are scrambling for work and will quote less money to make up for the lost time. She told me some of her friends are walking the streets to try to make up some of the money lost.

Bottom line is this guys, if you see drugs around when you are out and about, leave the premises! Don't take chance and get arrested with the rest of them. It is just a headache as you will have a very tense time and / or will have to pay off a cop in the process.

I think it skimming mundoanuncio or anunciosdiarios can yield very good results as I have done that and found some real gems. Those girls generally are pretty low key and don't watch the clock.

Be careful and monger on.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1169727]Panama Sam. Thanks for the update. Good to know, but I am wondering on how this will create a Glut. If anything all the girls will move to one bar. (A Che) and so will all the guys looking for them. Most of the girls from Habanos go over to A Che Around midnight anyway.

In addition, what usually happens after these raids is the girls hide out. Stay in there apts et. I have been down twice the night after immigration raids and every bar was virtually dead. The girls tend to hide out for a few days till things quiet down. The real problem is the long term future of Panama as these raids drug related or not are becoming more frequent. [/QUOTE]

As of tonight Habanos is re-opened. Not a huge volume of girls, but some pretty good quality.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;1170387]Just wondering why not just go to Columbia instead of going to Panama for mongering? Is it safety? I am considering going to Bogota for the first time.[/QUOTE]Can't comment on the Bogata scene, but can on the Medellin scene. More spread out, some locations in very sketchy areas. Finding a trustworthy cabbie is tantamount. Costs vary greatly, some of the high end casas were $200 for 90-minutes. In the rundown areas, $30 for 30-minutes. Unfortunately, my only visit there was during a weekend of national elections and all the bars closed.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1170722]As of tonight Habanos is re-opened. Not a huge volume of girls, but some pretty good quality.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear, arrive in PTY Thursday night. What and where is A Che? Usually if we didn't find anything in the Veneto or Habanos, we'd go to La Bodaguita (sp?) as the bar of last resort. I take it, rather hope it was not Gringos who were involved in the drug activity? If I recall, the serves on the 1st floor were all little indians from the hills.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1170835]Glad to hear, arrive in PTY Thursday night. What and where is A Che? Usually if we didn't find anything in the Veneto or Habanos, we'd go to La Bodaguita (sp?) as the bar of last resort. I take it, rather hope it was not Gringos who were involved in the drug activity? If I recall, the serves on the 1st floor were all little indians from the hills.[/QUOTE]Ah-che is a place all the ladies go to late night after midnight. Just returned from 12 days in Panama city stayed at hotel Torres De Alba. Was at habanos before they closed, Veneto, Ah-Che, La Madame, Le Palace, Elite. Pulled some real stunners out of veneto, Habanos, and Ah-che.

The owner of A Che is also the owner of Bodeguita. I do not know if Bodeguita is still open but the entire crowd from there just goes to A che now. Even the employees are all the same and are at A che. For all intents and purposes Bodeguita is dead. It has all just transfered over to A che.

[QUOTE=Streak999;1170885]Ah-che is a place all the ladies go to late night after midnight. Just returned from 12 days in Panama city stayed at hotel Torres De Alba. Was at habanos before they closed, Veneto, Ah-Che, La Madame, Le Palace, Elite. Pulled some real stunners out of veneto, Habanos, and Ah-che.[/QUOTE]But what is the set-up? Is it a bar, cover charge, near Veneto, etc? Tried to google it, but came up with nada.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1170983]But what is the set-up? Is it a bar, cover charge, near Veneto, etc? Tried to google it, but came up with nada.[/QUOTE]Ah-che is a nightclub went there 4 times first time was charged $10. 00 cover charge after that got for free the other 3 times I went there. Location 1 or 2 blocks south of Elite if you ask a cabbie to take you to Ah-Che they all know where it is. GOOD LUCK

Howdy guys,

In a couple of months it looks like I'll have a long layover in Panama City while returning from Rio. I will arrive in the morning and leave around 6PM, so night time options are off the table. Are there any other options beside Oasis Massage? If Oasis is my only real option then I hope they have a good selection available in the afternoon.

- DSK

How come the other casinos don't have pros?

Seems like Veneto benefits from the increased traffic.

[QUOTE=Devilspinkick; 1171379]Howdy guys,

In a couple of months it looks like I'll have a long layover in Panama City while returning from Rio. I will arrive in the morning and leave around 6PM, so night time options are off the table. Are there any other options beside Oasis Massage? If Oasis is my only real option then I hope they have a good selection available in the afternoon.

- DSK[/QUOTE]May I suggest you read my recent Field Report (#3172) below. I was restricted primarily to daytime hours for mongering as well. Two places cited (Golden Spa and the notorious 'Cantina Boca Torena' go 24x7. And La Mayor opens at 1 PM or so. Both of the latter are in Casco Viejo and any cabbie worth a tip will know the quickest way to all three.

The real question is, do your balls clank when you walk, can you handle it down-and-dirty at La BT, or the slightly nicer La Mayor next door? LOL

[QUOTE=Rippa;1171741]May I suggest you read my recent Field Report (#3172) below. I was restricted primarily to daytime hours for mongering as well. Two places cited (Golden Spa and the notorious 'Cantina Boca Torena' go 24x7. And La Mayor opens at 1 PM or so. Both of the latter are in Casco Viejo and any cabbie worth a tip will know the quickest way to all three. The real question is, do your balls clank when you walk, can you handle it down-and-dirty at La BT, or the slightly nicer La Mayor next door? LOL[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I'll check out your past posting.

As far as "roughing it" goes, I think I'll go for the more upscale options. I've had my times hiting bordellos in places such as Cambodia, Romania, Ecuador, etc. I greatly prefer the atmosphere of a gentlemen's club as opposed to the "crack-house" feel of a hole in the wall brothel.

Just my thing, but if I happen to pass by La BT I might at least stick my head in the door.

- DSK

I'm in Panama now and last nigh the Moulin Rouge and Doll House were both closed. I didn't go but the cabbie said Habanos was closed as well.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1170722]As of tonight Habanos is re-opened. Not a huge volume of girls, but some pretty good quality.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayHighFive;1171861]I'm in Panama now and last nigh the Moulin Rouge and Doll House were both closed. I didn't go but the cabbie said Habanos was closed as well.[/QUOTE]I would ignore the cab driver and walk down to habanos and see for yourself. Lots of times cab drivers just want you to bypass habanos and take you to, le palace, elite, golden times. How is the action at the Veneto? I think right now things are bad. Keep us posted and try to make the best of it.

I will walk down to Habanos now. The Veneto is pretty good. Let night after 9pm about 70-80 girls. Some goo looking ones too.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1171938]I would ignore the cab driver and walk down to habanos and see for yourself. Lots of times cab drivers just want you to bypass habanos and take you to, le palace, elite, golden times. How is the action at the Veneto? I think right now things are bad. Keep us posted and try to make the best of it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah,

Habanos was open last night. There were maybe 25. 30 chicas around 11pm. The Veneto had less talent than the night before.

[QUOTE=JayHighFive;1171992]I will walk down to Habanos now. The Veneto is pretty good. Let night after 9pm about 70-80 girls. Some goo looking ones too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1172139]Yeah,

Habanos was open last night. There were maybe 25. 30 chicas around 11pm. The Veneto had less talent than the night before.[/QUOTE]Good to hear. Enjoy, I can't wait to go back. Not sure when.

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1172139]Yeah,

Habanos was open last night. There were maybe 25. 30 chicas around 11pm. The Veneto had less talent than the night before.[/QUOTE]Habanos had one good night, last Thursday. Not overly impressed over prior years, actually liked the old building instead. New building is open air, which means no air. $4.40 for a Balboa and had to wait for one guy to make it to our table to take our order, just to tell a waitress to get it for us, ridiculous service. No GFE in PTY; just sucky, fucky, watch the clock and pay me now. Bodaguita VIP and Ah-Che were both empty after 1 a.m., not sure where the girls were going. Veneto had a better selection, but it's a terrible location to talk to someone. My friends swear by PTY, but I'll take SJO over it, hands down. One Columbiana we chatted it up with at Habanos said that if they get picked up by immigration, they either pay what they're told, or they have sex with the immigration official. Nice system!

[QUOTE=JayHighFive;1171861]I'm in Panama now and last nigh the Moulin Rouge and Doll House were both closed. I didn't go but the cabbie said Habanos was closed as well.[/QUOTE]Both are closed indefinitely, there was a raid and drugs were "supposedly" found on the premises

Well, Swore I wouldn't go back after my recent reports of the place going down hill and being a total Non GFE. The good ole days of 4 and 5 years ago are long gone. However I have a stop over in PTY while in route to Guyaquil Ecuador to do some mongering and figured I will make it an extended stop over in Panama of a couple days. Hope Habanos and La Che are open and hopping. Also have one semi regular in Panama who is overly excited to see me. (that right there tells me business is slow). Good luck to me. Again.

Any updated info on Le Palace?

[QUOTE=Hobbying;1173820]Any updated info on Le Palace?[/QUOTE]No changes, same quality of girls, same price for take outs. Only change that I've noticed is that they have an all you can drink for US passport wielding people for $20 mon, wed and fri I think

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1173770]Both are closed indefinitely, there was a raid and drugs were "supposedly" found on the premises[/QUOTE]Doll House and Moulin Rouge are closed but Habanos is definitely open- don't believe what the cabbies say, they're just looking to get commission from Le Palace, Elite and Club Miami.

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1173961]No changes, same quality of girls, same price for take outs. Only change that I've noticed is that they have an all you can drink for US passport wielding people for $20 mon, wed and fri I think[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly the girls were asking 200-250 for 2 hours and the house fine was 100?

[QUOTE=Hobbying;1175635]If I remember correctly the girls were asking 200-250 for 2 hours and the house fine was 100?[/QUOTE]Girls 200-250 160 for house.

It is open bar every night for US Passport carrying American citizens, $20. 00. Here is the link.

[url]http://www.lepalacenightclub.com/promociones.html[/url]

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1173961]No changes, same quality of girls, same price for take outs. Only change that I've noticed is that they have an all you can drink for US passport wielding people for $20 mon, wed and fri I think[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1173770]Both are closed indefinitely, there was a raid and drugs were "supposedly" found on the premises[/QUOTE]Hello, everyone, just to give an update on the Rouge-House connection affair. The D. A has finally released more info on the raids. About 60 girls where detained and most of them claimed to be extorted to work as prostitues and to sell drugs, as the owners of the places would bring them from their countries of residence with false reasons, upon arrival they would take their passports away and forced them into the clubs.

4-6 formal arrests have been made, won't go into too much detail but if you read spanish, there is a full article in [url]www.prensa.com.[/url] Interesting to note, one of the persons mentioned there is related to the owner (at least to what I think) of the Elite franchise.

[QUOTE=Pajama Sam; 1169628]Fellow Mongers,

I have some digits available if you need help.

Monger On[/QUOTE]How about sharing the digits with the rest of the guys on here.

Damn, thats too bad! I had some good times at the Moulin Rouge!

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1178074]Hello, everyone, just to give an update on the Rouge-House connection affair. The D. A has finally released more info on the raids. About 60 girls where detained and most of them claimed to be extorted to work as prostitues and to sell drugs, as the owners of the places would bring them from their countries of residence with false reasons, upon arrival they would take their passports away and forced them into the clubs.

4-6 formal arrests have been made, won't go into too much detail but if you read spanish, there is a full article in.

[url]www.prensa.com.[/url]

Interesting to note, one of the persons mentioned there is related to the owner (at least to what I think) of the Elite franchise.[/QUOTE]

Was there the last 4 days. Same story Habanos, Veneto, Ache, Bodegeta all are open. Still not of the quality and friendlyness of 5 years ago but, okay for a weekend. Normal amount of girls in each but not an abundance. Probably the best looking girls were at Habanos. Veneto was a total let down each night as far as quality.

Moulon Rouge closed and roped off with Police Tape.

Guys. Haven't been to Panama City in nine months. Keep hearing about this club called A Che? I'm staying at the Venetto. Can anyone point me in the right direction to A Che and the best times to go?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Joey Smith; 1178691]Guys. Haven't been to Panama City in nine months. Keep hearing about this club called A Che? I'm staying at the Venetto. Can anyone point me in the right direction to A Che and the best times to go?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Ache is in Calle Uruguay in the corner across from Coffee Tree and right after Barrafina restaurant on your right.

I was there last night. Ok selection of girls. The prices they were asking way out. $400 for 2hours. Negotiated and got a few down to 100 and 150.

[QUOTE=Butch145;1179186]I was there last night. Ok selection of girls. The prices they were asking way out. $400 for 2hours. Negotiated and got a few down to 100 and 150.[/QUOTE]What is the best time to go?

[QUOTE=Vivalseco;1178817]Ache is in Calle Uruguay in the corner across from Coffee Tree and right after Barrafina restaurant on your right.[/QUOTE]Or, the side street across from Elite II, Hooters on the corner. One block down on your left. Definitely a late night bar and hit or miss. Was a miss on my visit a couple weeks ago, on a Friday night at 1 a. M.

[QUOTE=Butch145;1179186]I was there last night. Ok selection of girls. The prices they were asking way out. $400 for 2hours. Negotiated and got a few down to 100 and 150.[/QUOTE]Best not to ask for 2 hours up front, get them for 1 hour for $100. Once they're there make them have a good enough time to where they loose track of time and stay over the hour- if that doesn't work, offer them $50 for next hour, they're already there so many times they'll say yes. I also tell them there are very nice girls in Golden Time that are just as pretty for $84 for the hour.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1170834]Can't comment on the Bogata scene, but can on the Medellin scene. More spread out, some locations in very sketchy areas. Finding a trustworthy cabbie is tantamount. Costs vary greatly, some of the high end casas were $200 for 90-minutes. In the rundown areas, $30 for 30-minutes. Unfortunately, my only visit there was during a weekend of national elections and all the bars closed.[/QUOTE]You're a bit off on your prices. I think you're confusing pesos with dollars. I've been to Medellin half a dozen times, The highest end place is about 200k ($100. $113 with current exchange rate) for an hour. The lowend casas are 30k ($15. $17 currently) for 30 minutes. It's relatively safe. You do do need taxis late at night to some of the areas. The city is big and everything is pretty spread out. From the looks of things. A lot cheaper than Panama. You can get TLN for $50-150. Sounds like those are the HOURLY rates in Panama.

Why would you want to go to Panama instead for Colombians? Ignorance for some people. Another reason is Medellin has no real freelance scene like Panama and CR. It's among the cheapest of the 3 major cities in Colombia. Oh and the no English factor.

I'll going to Medellin soon and since there is a layover in Panama, I figure I might as well stay a couple of days here. I'm hoping my talk of home can get the Colombian chicas to lower their prices. LOL

Anyone know what happened to them? I went there and it was closed but the their site is still up.

[url]http://www.thediamondclub.com.pa/aboutus.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1179383]What is the best time to go?[/QUOTE]Well I was there 10pm and at times after 2am. The 2am you have left over so not sure if I would do that again.

Although I did have a great luck picking up from habanos. A columbian for $150 for an hour, but she did everything to me. BBBJ and rimming, best part was she said to relax she put a rubber on her finger and did a little anal on me while she was blowing me. That was very unexpected.

[QUOTE=Butch145; 1180698]Well I was there 10pm and at times after 2am. The 2am you have left over so not sure if I would do that again.

Although I did have a great luck picking up from habanos. A columbian for $150 for an hour, but she did everything to me. BBBJ and rimming, best part was she said to relax she put a rubber on her finger and did a little anal on me while she was blowing me. That was very unexpected.[/QUOTE]IMHO, before 10PM or 11PM. The reason is 'fresh pussy'. I hate the feeling of having to think there have been a few dicks sticking into the hole I am about to enter. But that is just me.

Good days gents.

EZ

[QUOTE=Hobbying; 1180181]Anyone know what happened to them? I went there and it was closed but the their site is still up.

[url]http://www.thediamondclub.com.pa/aboutus.html[/url][/QUOTE]This was another case of dubios migration paperwork. A big scandal broke up stating that the subsecretary was involved in bribes and the like with the visas extended to the girls. Most of the girls, if not all, were european. Club was closed, people went to jail and all hell broke loose. Also forgot to mention, some of the girls went AWOL and escaped the raid and they are somewhere in the country!!

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1181414]IMHO, before 10PM or 11PM. The reason is 'fresh pussy'. I hate the feeling of having to think there have been a few dicks sticking into the hole I am about to enter. But that is just me.

Good days gents.

EZ[/QUOTE]To all: haven't seen any updated postings in the last 2 wks, will be in PC Aug 18-21. How's the action at the usual haunts: Veneto, Habanos, Ache, Palace, Elite (PS anyone know Marcela from Elite?) Also wanted to know if anyone has further particulars on chica at GirlPanama website who calls herself Scarlett? Looks like a winner. Cheers

Hi,

Can anyone suggest a non pro bar or club to meet non pro or locals in Panama City.

I usually stay at the Veneto Hotel and there always a good selection at the Veneto, but most are Pro's.

Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Columbian Lover; 1186498]Hi,

Can anyone suggest a non pro bar or club to meet non pro or locals in Panama City.

I usually stay at the Veneto Hotel and there always a good selection at the Veneto, but most are Pro's.

Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Go to Calle Uruguay. There you can go to Prive, Pure and the club on the top floor of the Manrey Hotel.

Also, I heard there is a nice bar at the Trump Tower.

Good luck

Trump Tower is far and away heads and shoulders above anything in Panama right now. It is truly built for the elite, those who don't mind paying extra for the exclusivity. If you go there, expect to be snobbed quite a bit unless you know people and a lot of them there in the upper class and inner circles of the elite in Panama.

[QUOTE=Vivalseco; 1186594]Go to Calle Uruguay. There you can go to Prive, Pure and the club on the top floor of the Manrey Hotel.

Also, I heard there is a nice bar at the Trump Tower.

Good luck[/QUOTE]

I got a chance to spend a few days in PTY. Stayed at the Four Points which was girl friendly. It's not far from Habanos. Driving around Ave Mexico I picked up an SW and went to the local push and did the deed. 20US. She was cool and told me things were bad economy wise in Panama. The next day went to what used to be La Movida. A building near Plaza 5 de Mayo and banged a black colobian chick that's been there for two years. This place used to be quite a hang out but has died to some point. Still there are a few that work there. My last night I went to the bars in casco viejo mentioned here. These places are what you see in a movie. Muskie, hot and the stence at times is overwhelming. There are some hotties there but I would not hit it there. Best thing to do is have her go with you somewhere else. I looked but decided to leave. As I went to the car there was a panamanian girl at the corner so I struck a conversation with her. A MILF and looked pretty decent. She said she would go with for 20 and off we went. She must've stayed for 4 hrs and banged her twice cause I ended taking her back at 4am. She said she would've stayed TLN but had to work her regular job in the am. Panama is a good place you just got to know where to go and there are many non-pros to be had. RTFF!

Be safe!

[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1179666]You're a bit off on your prices. I think you're confusing pesos with dollars. I've been to Medellin half a dozen times, The highest end place is about 200k ($100. $113 with current exchange rate) for an hour. The lowend casas are 30k ($15. $17 currently) for 30 minutes. It's relatively safe. You do do need taxis late at night to some of the areas. The city is big and everything is pretty spread out. From the looks of things. A lot cheaper than Panama. You can get TLN for $50-150. Sounds like those are the HOURLY rates in Panama.

Why would you want to go to Panama instead for Colombians? Ignorance for some people. Another reason is Medellin has no real freelance scene like Panama and CR. It's among the cheapest of the 3 major cities in Colombia. Oh and the no English factor.

I'll going to Medellin soon and since there is a layover in Panama, I figure I might as well stay a couple of days here. I'm hoping my talk of home can get the Colombian chicas to lower their prices. LOL[/QUOTE]Hioctane: Tried to respond to your PM, says you need to delete your old messages. In response: Pretty clean place actually. I've stayed there five times now. Furniture is starting to get outdated, but it is comfortable. All rooms are large with a sofa and fridge, in-room safe as well. Bathrooms are a bit small, but have a walk-in shower.

Hooters is a two block walk, it sits right across from Elite II. Also, if you go down the side street that Hooters sits on, there is a very reasonable Columbian eatery (very similar to Manilos across from the Veneto) and a pizza place there as well. The hotel also has their own food and they have a new patio set up with good deals on lunch specials. Have never been stopped when bringing in a guest, they don't even take their I'd. If you like to swim, their pool is awesome.

[QUOTE=Columbian Lover; 1186498]Hi,

Can anyone suggest a non pro bar or club to meet non pro or locals in Panama City.

I usually stay at the Veneto Hotel and there always a good selection at the Veneto, but most are Pro's.

Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Manrey is pretty good, Trump is extremely high end- just recently opened so not too much of a crowd or that many single girls hanging out. Libar by Atlapa has a lot of pretty single girls on Fri and Sat's after midnight.

I stayed at the Veneto Hotel in Panama City Last night. Downs stairs in the Casino there is a large selection of girls to choose from, one which gets bigger the closer to midnight it gets.

There is no problem taking them upto your room. Time with the girls costs anywhere between $100 and $150 depending upon how well you can bargain with them.

There is a great selection of girls to choose from all over Central America here.

[QUOTE=SkmSteve; 1188581]I stayed at the Veneto Hotel in Panama City Last night. Downs stairs in the Casino there is a large selection of girls to choose from, one which gets bigger the closer to midnight it gets.

There is no problem taking them upto your room. Time with the girls costs anywhere between $100 and $150 depending upon how well you can bargain with them.

There is a great selection of girls to choose from all over Central America here.[/QUOTE]If you are still in Panama and not familiar with it, try out Ashe on calle Uruguay- excellent selection and quality- best to go after 1am though

Quick Report,

Did my usual rounds yesterday. Ashe, Veneto, Habanos. Lots of new girls and old girls back in twn.

While in veneto I met an American guy who has a private car service here in Panama City. Gave him a try. Nice 4x4, with AC, etc. Just call him and say you are from the ISG board. That will give you a bit of a discount. [url]http://www.facebook.com/pages/Panama-Pickup/150930978326554[/url] That is his website and phne number is 507-63747232.

Side nte, Veneto has been real good lately, problem is, the girls stick to 100-150 per session.

Free

[QUOTE=Free Sex; 1190701]Quick Report,

Did my usual rounds yesterday. Ashe, Veneto, Habanos. Lots of new girls and old girls back in twn.

While in veneto I met an American guy who has a private car service here in Panama City. Gave him a try. Nice 4x4, with AC, etc. Just call him and say you are from the ISG board. That will give you a bit of a discount.

[url]http://www.facebook.com/pages/Panama-Pickup/150930978326554[/url]

That is his website and phne number is 507-63747232.

Side nte, Veneto has been real good lately, problem is, the girls stick to 100-150 per session.

Free[/QUOTE]Nice to hear things are picking up. I think I might just book my trip in September. Appreciate the report. Was it good all nights you were there?

[QUOTE=Free Sex; 1190701]Quick Report,

Side nte, Veneto has been real good lately, problem is, the girls stick to 100-150 per session.

Free[/QUOTE]Gentleman. I have a feeling we're overpaying the chicas in Panama City. Only a few months ago, you could have a 10 for $100/1Hr or less for lesser quality at Veneto. It was basically $50-$100 per session. At the present time, the economy is particularly bad in Panama and the chicas desperately need work and there are tons of them (most are from Colombia of course) so there is an ample supply and therefore please refrain yourself from paying over $100 for the sake of many of us who are mongering on a budget. Please firmly hold your ground ($50-$100/1 hr) and you'll do us a very huge favor. Thanks a million.

Good days gents.

EZ

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1191835]Gentleman. I have a feeling we're overpaying the chicas in Panama City. Only a few months ago, you could have a 10 for $100/1Hr or less for lesser quality at Veneto. It was basically $50-$100 per session. At the present time, the economy is particularly bad in Panama and the chicas desperately need work and there are tons of them (most are from Colombia of course) so there is an ample supply and therefore please refrain yourself from paying over $100 for the sake of many of us who are mongering on a budget. Please firmly hold your ground ($50-$100/1 hr) and you'll do us a very huge favor. Thanks a million.

Good days gents.

EZ[/QUOTE]YES, I totally agree, lets stay firm. Its a buyers market.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1191835]Gentleman. I have a feeling we're overpaying the chicas in Panama City. Only a few months ago, you could have a 10 for $100/1Hr or less for lesser quality at Veneto. It was basically $50-$100 per session. At the present time, the economy is particularly bad in Panama and the chicas desperately need work and there are tons of them (most are from Colombia of course) so there is an ample supply and therefore please refrain yourself from paying over $100 for the sake of many of us who are mongering on a budget. Please firmly hold your ground ($50-$100/1 hr) and you'll do us a very huge favor. Thanks a million.

Good days gents.

EZ[/QUOTE]Could not agree more. We need the guys to have a little more awareness and a lot more backbone. With the economic crunch, you can get attractive girls in NYC of off craigslist and backpage for $150, why pay for air-fare and hotel to pay that amount down here.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1191835]Gentleman. I have a feeling we're overpaying the chicas in Panama City. Only a few months ago, you could have a 10 for $100/1Hr or less for lesser quality at Veneto. It was basically $50-$100 per session. At the present time, the economy is particularly bad in Panama and the chicas desperately need work and there are tons of them (most are from Colombia of course) so there is an ample supply and therefore please refrain yourself from paying over $100 for the sake of many of us who are mongering on a budget. Please firmly hold your ground ($50-$100/1 hr) and you'll do us a very huge favor. Thanks a million.

Good days gents.

EZ[/QUOTE]Just laugh off the ones that start at over $100. Even they know. I had one at $60 and few $80 from Veneto (the earlier in the evening the lower you should get). Others were $100 and I tried to get extra time for it. None more than $100. At Le Mayor it was $17. I busted my nut at Le Mayor before checking out Boca Torena, man Boca Torena had some real cuties and was packed at 2pm.

This one at Veneto was telling me she could get gringos for $200 and teasingly told me I was a 'baad maan' for only paying $100 (she was sweet though) , I cud have paid $80 if I spent more time haggling but I am not the stickler type plus I was winning a bunch at blackjack with the loose rules they have. Daamn, wish casinos in US had those rules.

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1192203]Just laugh off the ones that start at over $100. Even they know. I had one at $60 and few $80 from Veneto (the earlier in the evening the lower you should get). Others were $100 and I tried to get extra time for it. None more than $100. At Le Mayor it was $17. I busted my nut at Le Mayor before checking out Boca Torena, man Boca Torena had some real cuties and was packed at 2pm.

This one at Veneto was telling me she could get gringos for $200 and teasingly told me I was a 'baad maan' for only paying $100 (she was sweet though) , I cud have paid $80 if I spent more time haggling but I am not the stickler type plus I was winning a bunch at blackjack with the loose rules they have. Daamn, wish casinos in US had those rules.[/QUOTE]Yes, they have crazy rules, I remember doubling down after being dealt 3 cards. I won some money playin also.

[QUOTE=Kman1;1192203]This one at Veneto was telling me she could get gringos for $200 and teasingly told me I was a 'baad maan' for only paying $100 (she was sweet though) , I cud have paid $80 if I spent more time haggling but I am not the stickler type plus I was winning a bunch at blackjack with the loose rules they have.[/QUOTE]$200, why even go there if they're going to pay that much? I've had it with Panama, Thailand is my new playground!

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1192434]$200, why even go there if they're going to pay that much? I've had it with Panama, Thailand is my new playground![/QUOTE]During my last two trips. All the chicas I've encountered start at $150 or higher. I realize some of these guys are new to the game. But if these guys continue to pay more than $100 for chicas at Habamos, Veneto or Ache their just wasting $$$ and inflating prices for all of us.

I've stood firm at $100 and threatened to move on and all of them have agreed.

Panama is no longer in my top 4 Central / South America / Caribbean mongering destinations. Better values in the COL / CR / DR / CUR.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith; 1192491]During my last two trips. All the chicas I've encountered start at $150 or higher. I realize some of these guys are new to the game. But if these guys continue to pay more than $100 for chicas at Habamos, Veneto or Ache their just wasting $$$ and inflating prices for all of us.

I've stood firm at $100 and threatened to move on and all of them have agreed.

Panama is no longer in my top 4 Central / South America / Caribbean mongering destinations. Better values in the COL / CR / DR / CUR.[/QUOTE]
Agree with your assessment. Last trip to Panama / Habanos in May, there were maybe three girls in the bar at 2 am on a Saturday night and no guys and they wanted $200 initially. Ah-Che and VIP La Bodequita (sp?) both dead on a weekend as well. Wasn't ready to make any counter but agreed we would all go back to the Veneto. There were about 30 girls there, still that late. Much easier to negotiate with Veneto girls, but hate that the bar is so small. Some Veneto girl always willing to go for $80. I still prefer the venues in CR for a better selection and personalities of the girls. The Blue Marlin girls with sit and drink with you all night, better potential for a TLN.

Leave for Thailand tomorrow, no comparison to Latin destinations can be made.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith; 1192491]During my last two trips. All the chicas I've encountered start at $150 or higher. I realize some of these guys are new to the game. But if these guys continue to pay more than $100 for chicas at Habamos, Veneto or Ache their just wasting $$$ and inflating prices for all of us.

I've stood firm at $100 and threatened to move on and all of them have agreed.

Panama is no longer in my top 4 Central / South America / Caribbean mongering destinations. Better values in the COL / CR / DR / CUR.[/QUOTE]Panama is starting to get worse with these high prices but one thing about Panama is the women, they are all beautiful compared to DR or CR. Unless you go straight to Colombia

[QUOTE=Snipps;1192803]you go straight to Colombia[/QUOTE]That deserves my wholehearted vote. It only costs $100USD more in airfare via Copa Airlines but you have more choices, more selections, and more options, specifically on how you want to spend your hard-earned money. Just my 2 cents.

Good days gents.

EZ

I have been to Panama probably close to 100 times in the last 5 years. The place is not the same. The girls are very profesional and no longer seem to appreciate a nice Gringo.

In anycase, I have never even 5 years ago paid less than $150 at Habanos, Veneto, or Bodeguito. My friend once paid $100 for BJ only.

I always get TLN but, even if I didn't I have never been able or have I seen anyone pull a girl for less than $150.

Now the girls I am pulling are top notch. They are the upper 10 percent of the girls there. I certainly know the game and definately know how to haggle but how everyone is scoring these $100 girls is beyond me. Are they bottom barrel, Are you having to wade through 20 "no's" before finally getting a yes. I wonder.

About 3 years ago a chica I knew that was working down there told me the girls had formed a "pact" and after Jan 1st the new price was going to be $200. 00 Never lower.

I laughed so hard. She made it seem like they were a union.

Anyway that lasted about two days and they all went to $150 again.

Gentleman that really is the standard price. Most will start at $200 and then go down to $150 but never have I seen less

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1192820]That deserves my wholehearted vote. It only costs $100USD more in airfare via Copa Airlines but you have more choices, more selections, and more options, specifically on how you want to spend your hard-earned money. Just my 2 cents.

Good days gents.

EZ[/QUOTE]But the only thing that I like about Panama is veneto, you can gamble chill out by the bar and have plenty of options with women. In Colombia, I don't think there is anything like Veneto, just a lot of casas you need to go to. Unless I am mistaken. The beauty about Panama is you don't even have to leave your hotel.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1193063]But the only thing that I like about Panama is veneto, you can gamble chill out by the bar and have plenty of options with women. In Colombia, I don't think there is anything like Veneto, just a lot of casas you need to go to. Unless I am mistaken. The beauty about Panama is you don't even have to leave your hotel.[/QUOTE]Right on Snipps. There is no need to look past Veneto. Its the all in one destination and the non smoking makes it so much better. I did not get a chance to check out Ache simply because I was so tied up at Veneto at nights.

I saw this petite gorda earlier in the day at Manolos and later that night she was next to me at the blackjack tables and she was well behaved unlike the vast majority who are haggling for a 5 or a 10$ chip all day every day. So, I decided to take her up to my room for $80 / hr and later realized she was a little bit more gorda than her dress revealed, but what the heck, its all fair during a short vacation.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1192951]I have been to Panama probably close to 100 times in the last 5 years. The place is not the same. The girls are very profesional and no longer seem to appreciate a nice Gringo.

In anycase, I have never even 5 years ago paid less than $150 at Habanos, Veneto, or Bodeguito. My friend once paid $100 for BJ only.

I always get TLN but, even if I didn't I have never been able or have I seen anyone pull a girl for less than $150.

Now the girls I am pulling are top notch. They are the upper 10 percent of the girls there. I certainly know the game and definately know how to haggle but how everyone is scoring these $100 girls is beyond me. Are they bottom barrel, Are you having to wade through 20 "no's" before finally getting a yes. I wonder.

About 3 years ago a chica I knew that was working down there told me the girls had formed a "pact" and after Jan 1st the new price was going to be $200. 00 Never lower.

I laughed so hard. She made it seem like they were a union.

Anyway that lasted about two days and they all went to $150 again.

Gentleman that really is the standard price. Most will start at $200 and then go down to $150 but never have I seen less[/QUOTE]Well, I never had anyone quote me even close to $150 and even if they did it was in a hushed tone knowing they are not going to get it. $100 max and that is it for me. Maybe I am picking more realistic average women, but certainly I am going for what I like. I don't like plastic or cosmetically enhanced or ones wearing heavy make up, I am not looking for the perfect shape, but personality and attitude counts a lot. The more real and girl next door type is what I like. After all my years of mongering I have adjusted to picking the ones that work for me. None of the Le Palace crap, can't stand it. Some of the women I did not even talk about price until it was all said and done. If you are having a good time with the chica then its all based on trust and understanding. If possible I would like to see pics of the 'top notch' types you are referring to, only out of curiosity.

Here is one from habanos who agreed to my first quote of $100 for two nuts. More of her I posted in photo gallery.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1193063]But the only thing that I like about Panama is veneto, you can gamble chill out by the bar and have plenty of options with women. In Colombia, I don't think there is anything like Veneto, just a lot of casas you need to go to. Unless I am mistaken. The beauty about Panama is you don't even have to leave your hotel.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the non-mongering question but what are the table mins at the Veneto?

[QUOTE=Toronto;1193404]Sorry for the non-mongering question but what are the table mins at the Veneto?[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly, it was 5 dollars.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1193424]If I remember correctly, it was 5 dollars.[/QUOTE]Its $3 on tables with CSM and $5 for hand shuffled. On non busy hours hand shuffled could be $3 too I think.

I am planning a trip to Panama City, and have not been there since 2001, and it seems much has changed. I went through the last year of reports in this thread and came up with a on page run down. I ask that anyone please jump in if I missed something or should be corrected.

As far as the current situation is concerned I understand that Habanos and Oasis are currently open, however Moulin Rouge and the Dollhouse are still closed. Taxi drivers as usually will say Habanos and all the pickup bar type setups are closed in favor of high end strip clubs where they get a cut.

Friendly Hotels.

1. Hotel Milan: Cangerjo, $65.

2. Tower House Suites: Punta Patilla, $70.

3. Torres de Alba: Cangrejo $65.

4. The Executive Hotel: Av. Aquilino de la Guardia, short distance from Veneto with $10 chica fee. Online reservations broken so no idea of price.

5. Plaza Paitilla: Punta Patilla, $115 to $150.

6. The Las Vegas Suites: Cangrejo next to Veneto, $20 chica fee, no way to determine rate online.

7. Veneto Hotel: $135.

The Veneto seems to be the best option, and I assume they do not charge a chica fee, although please correct me if I am wrong or if any of the other hotels I listed above charge and I did not note it. The Marriott is not chica friendly, however it is possible to sneak a girl into the hotel through the casino, but forget about having girls meet you at the hotel. The El Panama is definitely not chica friendly.

[U]Cangerjo[/U]

The area around Veneto is called Cangerjo, and options here include the Venetto casino bar, Moulin Rouge, Oasis, Doll House. Also in this area, but a few few blocks further south near the Marriott Hotel is Habanos, and Le Palace.

The setup at Habanos is the same, pickup bar like the Vento bar where the girls set their own price, although they do not have a hotel.

The Oasis functions like a massage palour and they have a lunchtime or daytime special rate. They do not have strippers but you can order a drink. Is it more popular at night?

All the night clubs or strip clubs have nude entertainment, cover charges, expensive drinks, more expensive drinks for the ladies, and want $200. $300 for sex offsite.

Ache replaces Bodegeta, and despite being called a "night club" is actually just another bar like Habanos, but has been mentioned as being more popular around 1am. I assume this also is in the same area.

Google Map of the area I found a "Le Madame Night Club". Is this currently open or perhaps is presently named another business?

Is Elite the same place as Elite II or are these separate locations or businesses?

Also, am I missing anything else in this area? Perhaps, Crazy horse?

[U]El Dorado[/U]

This is the area around El Dorado mall, which is 2. 4 km away from Hotel El Panama. You can get there from El Cangrejo by taxi for how much? I assume just a couple dollars, and I also notice there is a mass transit system that has a stop at El Dorado. It looks like the closest place to jump on the metro from the Veneto would be the Parada de la Nacional (Tumba Muetro).

The Google map shows a few locations around the Dorado Mall that are mentioned here, the Rey supermarket and also the Do It center.

In this vicinity you can find Golden Times, Gold Fingers, Caribbean Center and the Miami Club. All function as a massage parlor, expect the Miami Club also has a stripper pole where later in the day or the eveving the girls will strip. Expect to pay about $90 in any of these places, but Golden Time seems to be the favorite.

How late is the Miami club open? Also, are the MPs like Golden Time open late as well?

[U]More Information[/U]

An Internet search turned up this page, which seems to have some relatively current information about the situation with the Doll House and Moulin Rouge.

[url]http://www.latinblush.com/2011/07/vento-hotel-panama-city/[/url]

I also turned up some stuff on Casco Viejo, but this sounds really cheap hookers and even cheaper rooms in a dubious location. The places to go would be Cantina Boca Torena, and La Mayor. Also something about a place called Golden Spa.

I would like to thank everyone who as shared information so far. I am looking forward to my trip to Panama City, but just want to do the required do diligence before I do the hookers.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1192951]I have been to Panama probably close to 100 times in the last 5 years. The place is not the same. The girls are very profesional and no longer seem to appreciate a nice Gringo.

In anycase, I have never even 5 years ago paid less than $150 at Habanos, Veneto, or Bodeguito. My friend once paid $100 for BJ only.

I always get TLN but, even if I didn't I have never been able or have I seen anyone pull a girl for less than $150.

Now the girls I am pulling are top notch. They are the upper 10 percent of the girls there. I certainly know the game and definately know how to haggle but how everyone is scoring these $100 girls is beyond me. Are they bottom barrel, Are you having to wade through 20 "no's" before finally getting a yes. I wonder.

About 3 years ago a chica I knew that was working down there told me the girls had formed a "pact" and after Jan 1st the new price was going to be $200. 00 Never lower.

I laughed so hard. She made it seem like they were a union.

Anyway that lasted about two days and they all went to $150 again.

Gentleman that really is the standard price. Most will start at $200 and then go down to $150 but never have I seen less[/QUOTE]I've lived here for over 6 years and have taken out dozens of the very top tier talent from Veneto and Habanos and have never, ever paid over $100. $150 is in no way, shape or form the standard price. There are guys with great raps who can get a 9 or a 10 for $80 on a good day and there are tourists and guys who don't know any better or how to operate who pay $150-$200. I think it's possible to get quite a few of them down to $80 or $90 but I don't like to haggle and can always get them down to $100 from their asking price on the first try.

I think part of the issue may be the manner and body langauge of the negotiation, if you go in expecting to pay $150 and try to counter them when they say it, your response may be weak enough to the point where they know you are bluffing and that you'll cave-in in a second. Also, these girls all talk and know everything that is going on. If you get into the habit of paying $150, you become known as a $150 guy. Even if a girl would gladly go with you for $100 or even $80 on a slow night, she will hold out for $150 because she knows you paid another girl and now here ego is involved. They are competitive as hell. Likewise, if you become know as a $100 guy who knows the game, doesn't tip etc, they will likely not even mention a price and then just agree when you say $100.

Some things to keep in mind:

1. A doctor in Colombia makes about $1, 500 per month- at $150 a pop that is a days work for the girl compared to a month for a guy who spent 8 years in medical school.

2. You can currently get a pretty hot girl of the internet in NYC for $150.

3. Hotter girls than her are giving it away for $60 in her hometown.

You may have to bring your game up a bit as well as have them think you are better aware of different options. :

If they tell you $150, make a face like you just bit a month old apple and inform them that you can get a girl just as pretty for $86 at Golden Time.

Tell them you aren't a tourist and don't pay the rip-off price.

If it's slow and they've been sitting around for a bit, counter their price with yours and tell them "You can sit here and do nothing for an hour or come back with me, make a quick $XX and then be back right back and then you can charge a dopey gringo the $150"

In the unlikely event that they really won't budge off the $150, ask them if they'll come for 40 minutes for $100. You'll most likely only need 40 minutes and they will almost always lose track of time and stay the hour or more anyway.

All the above works a lot better if you can try not to appear desperate or put them up on a pedastal. More points if you can not appear uptight and joke and laugh a little with them etc.

If you are going to be paying the rip-off prices, for the sake of the other guys, please at least don't make it easy on them. Make them haggle and beg a little. If you committ to $150 to easy they will try for $200, if $200 is easy. On and on.
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[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1192656]Agree with your assessment. Last trip to Panama / Habanos in May, there were maybe three girls in the bar at 2 am on a Saturday night and no guys and they wanted $200 initially. Ah-Che and VIP La Bodequita (sp?) both dead on a weekend as well. Wasn't ready to make any counter but agreed we would all go back to the Veneto. There were about 30 girls there, still that late. Much easier to negotiate with Veneto girls, but hate that the bar is so small. Some Veneto girl always willing to go for $80. I still prefer the venues in CR for a better selection and personalities of the girls. The Blue Marlin girls with sit and drink with you all night, better potential for a TLN.[/QUOTE]Unless there was just recently a raid, you may have gone to Ashe too early. They don't get really going till after 1am at the earliest, likely even later on a weekend night because the girls may go to regular clubs to party with friends before "work". If you hit it right it should be packed to the rafters with extremely hot girls- much hotter than the current selection at the Veneto.

Thanks kman1 and snipps. Be there in Nov for first visit, hoping they have craps tables.

[QUOTE=Toronto;1193654]Thanks kman1 and snipps. Be there in Nov for first visit, hoping they have craps tables.[/QUOTE]Currently 2 craps tables at the Veneto and 1 at the Majestic.

While I'm just a visitor, not a Panamanian resident, Tbuss is right. I've gone with some freelancers without discussing price, in which case I may leave $100, or less a few years ago. I've told some that I'd pay the $150, but she has to provide excellent service and extra time. And I don't pay up front. That has worked out well. And getting them down to $100 hasn't been a problem, which is what I'll pay if I want to just spend 30 minutes or an hour with her and crash. When I'm mongering, I usually stay at the Veneto, so that might be a plus in the girl's mind, if I'm pulling a really attractive one from the hotel casino for short time. That likely makes her feel more secure. And she knows she can pocket $100 and be back to hook another one before long.

[QUOTE=Cultureshock; 1193551]The Oasis functions like a massage palour and they have a lunchtime or daytime special rate. They do not have strippers but you can order a drink. Is it more popular at night?

Is Elite the same place as Elite II or are these separate locations or businesses?

This is the area around El Dorado mall, which is 2. 4 km away from Hotel El Panama. You can get there from El Cangrejo by taxi for how much? I assume just a couple dollars, and I also notice there is a mass transit system that has a stop at El Dorado. It looks like the closest place to jump on the metro from the Veneto would be the Parada de la Nacional (Tumba Muetro).

How late is the Miami club open? Also, are the MPs like Golden Time open late as well?[/QUOTE]The Oasis is not more popular at night. I suspect they are most popular during the lunchtime special, which you have to ask for, around 11:00 AM to 2:00 PM. I can only remember seeing another customer there once. Elite II is the same as Elite. You can get to the El Dorado neighborhood from Cangrejo in taxi for two or three dollars. You will, however, pay Golden Time $10 or $20 more if you come in taxi. It's not worth taking public transportation. Miami Club is open late, well past midnight. I believe it's open later on weekends than weekdays. GT is open until 4:00 AM or 5:00 AM, although the selection really late isn't as good.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1193998]The Oasis is not more popular at night. I suspect they are most popular during the lunchtime special, which you have to ask for, around 11:00 AM to 2:00 PM. I can only remember seeing another customer there once. Elite II is the same as Elite. You can get to the El Dorado neighborhood from Cangrejo in taxi for two or three dollars. You will, however, pay Golden Time $10 or $20 more if you come in taxi. It's not worth taking public transportation. Miami Club is open late, well past midnight. I believe it's open later on weekends than weekdays. GT is open until 4:00 AM or 5:00 AM, although the selection really late isn't as good.[/QUOTE]Cab from Cangrejo to El Dorado is $1. 20 if you are by yourself. It goes up $.25 after 10pm and on Sundays and it's $.50 for each additional passenger. If you have them drop you off at Casino Fantastico in El Dorado, it's a short walk to Club Miami and Golden Time and you can beat the $10-$20 surcharge this way.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1194008]Cab from Cangrejo to El Dorado is $1. 20 if you are by yourself. It goes up $.25 after 10pm and on Sundays and it's $.50 for each additional passenger. If you have them drop you off at Casino Fantastico in El Dorado, it's a short walk to Club Miami and Golden Time and you can beat the $10-$20 surcharge this way.[/QUOTE]Tbuss, I'm pointing out here what you already know, but the info might be useful to others.

The casino would be a safe bet. I've never had a taxi drop me off there, but it looks like it's a bit of a hike. In recent years I've driven to GT, but before that I'd ask to be taken to either the Esso service station next to Plaza Mirage or to Don Lee's restaurant. Both are on on the same side of Tumba Muerto or Ricardo J Alfaro street as GT and both are past it if you're coming from downtown. You'd figure there would be no problem having them try to tag along if they dropped you at Don Lee's, but I never had a problem with the service station either. I'd tell them I was meeting a friend there and make up some wild story why. Others have recommended fast food restaurants, McDonalds across the street, and I think Popeye's just off the plaza. If you go early, there's a Chinese restaurant inside Plaza Mirage. It used to close early though, so that Don Lee, which is open until about 10:00 or 10:30, is a better choice if you want to combine some late evening dim sum and poontang.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12; 1194181]Tbuss, I'm pointing out here what you already know, but the info might be useful to others.

The casino would be a safe bet. I've never had a taxi drop me off there, but it looks like it's a bit of a hike. In recent years I've driven to GT, but before that I'd ask to be taken to either the Esso service station next to Plaza Mirage or to Don Lee's restaurant. Both are on on the same side of Tumba Muerto or Ricardo J Alfaro street as GT and both are past it if you're coming from downtown. You'd figure there would be no problem having them try to tag along if they dropped you at Don Lee's, but I never had a problem with the service station either. I'd tell them I was meeting a friend there and make up some wild story why. Others have recommended fast food restaurants, McDonalds across the street, and I think Popeye's just off the plaza. If you go early, there's a Chinese restaurant inside Plaza Mirage. It used to close early though, so that Don Lee, which is open until about 10:00 or 10:30, is a better choice if you want to combine some late evening dim sum and poontang.[/QUOTE]Hi Tiny, yes good advice if you go before Popeye's and Don Lee's are closed, I was just trying to make it a little simpler and applicable to all times. Also, some taxistas will get a little suspicious if a gringo gets a cab from Via Veneto 30 feet from a Don Lee to go to one in El Dorado, they'll sometimes wait and watch to see if you actually go into GT.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1194986]Hi Tiny, yes good advice if you go before Popeye's and Don Lee's are closed, I was just trying to make it a little simpler and applicable to all times. Also, some taxistas will get a little suspicious if a gringo gets a cab from Via Veneto 30 feet from a Don Lee to go to one in El Dorado, they'll sometimes wait and watch to see if you actually go into GT.[/QUOTE]I got dropped at Don Lee since I was early to GT (around 7) and decided to have a bite to eat before I went there. I paid my taxista and thought I was done, but he too came in later got something to eat and sat with me. After we were done he insisted he will drop me at GT, I told him I don't want to pay anything extra and he said no no. When I got there they put a red sticker on my shirt and one on his, not sure what that was for. They charged me $75 for the half hour. Did I pay extra? I am not going to go back and RTFF for this info now. LOL.

[QUOTE=Kman1;1195053]I got dropped at Don Lee since I was early to GT (around 7) and decided to have a bite to eat before I went there. I paid my taxista and thought I was done, but he too came in later got something to eat and sat with me. After we were done he insisted he will drop me at GT, I told him I don't want to pay anything extra and he said no no. When I got there they put a red sticker on my shirt and one on his, not sure what that was for. They charged me $75 for the half hour. Did I pay extra? I am not going to go back and RTFF for this info now. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, you did pay extra, when they put a sticker on you that means a cabby dropped you off. It would have cost you about 80-85 for an HOUR if no cabby drops you off.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1195241]Yes, you did pay extra, when they put a sticker on you that means a cabby dropped you off. It would have cost you about 80-85 for an HOUR if no cabby drops you off.[/QUOTE]So there is a $65 half hour rate at GT? I never heard of any half hour rates in any of the reports.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1193063]But the only thing that I like about Panama is veneto, you can gamble chill out by the bar and have plenty of options with women. In Colombia, I don't think there is anything like Veneto, just a lot of casas you need to go to. Unless I am mistaken. The beauty about Panama is you don't even have to leave your hotel.[/QUOTE]There is no place like Veneto nor GT for that matter in Colombia. Actually I'm referring to Medellin. In Cartagena there is LDV which is a busy freelance spot. Medellin has none of this BUT you can't beat casas for $15-$100 and TLN for $50-$120 in Medellin.

I'm only going to Panama for my first time because the flights to Colombia are whack now! The best flight is Copa and it flies through PTY so figured I might as will drop in for a couple of days and check it out on my way to Colombia. You also can't beat wall to wall beauties that I hear about at GT or Elite. I'm hoping my Medellin experience will get some of the chicas nostalgic and give me better rates. LOL.

Looks like the best options for value and location are Hotel Milan and Torres de Alba, being just a few blocks from the action in Cangrejo and well under $100 a night.

Does anyone know if these hotels charge a chica fee? Also, would like to try to connect girls on Mundo Anuncio, and trying to determine the suitability of these hotels for meeting them. Has anyone stayed there recently, and able to offer up some advice?

Also, I guess its kind of a basic question, but does the Veneto charge a guest fee?

[QUOTE=Cultureshock;1195684]does the Veneto charge a guest fee?[/QUOTE]No. It does not. Casino is on second floor and so is the bar where the chicas are. You select one chica and head straight up to your room. No question asked.

EZ

[QUOTE=Snipps;1195241]Yes, you did pay extra, when they put a sticker on you that means a cabby dropped you off. It would have cost you about 80-85 for an HOUR if no cabby drops you off.[/QUOTE]The best way to get a cab ride to GT is to have the cabbie drop you off at the Casino Fantastic in El Dorado. It is literally 100 meters from from the Popeyes Chicken and Goldern Times.

The casino is a plausible. 24 hour destination for a foreigner. If you are coming from the Veneto area, he will assume that you just want to try your luck at a different casino.

The casino is down the hill from GT. Go up the hill to the McDonalds, and past the round shaped fast food place, vector to the Popeye's Chicken, then down the strip mall to GT.

By the time you get wanded / patted down to get into the casino, go inside and check the place out, use their restroom, and walk out, your cabbie will probably have gotten another fare and will have forgotten all about you.

Cabbies have been known to stalk passengers they think are headed to GT. For up to an hour. To get that $10 bonus that GT will pay them. It is cheaper than hustling fares, and it does not cost them gas.

[QUOTE=Iguana Six; 1196635]The best way to get a cab ride to GT is to have the cabbie drop you off at the Casino Fantastic in El Dorado. It is literally 100 meters from from the Popeyes Chicken and Goldern Times.

The casino is a plausible. 24 hour destination for a foreigner. If you are coming from the Veneto area, he will assume that you just want to try your luck at a different casino.

The casino is down the hill from GT. Go up the hill to the McDonalds, and past the round shaped fast food place, vector to the Popeye's Chicken, then down the strip mall to GT.

By the time you get wanded / patted down to get into the casino, go inside and check the place out, use their restroom, and walk out, your cabbie will probably have gotten another fare and will have forgotten all about you.

Cabbies have been known to stalk passengers they think are headed to GT. For up to an hour. To get that $10 bonus that GT will pay them. It is cheaper than hustling fares, and it does not cost them gas.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. This is new info to me. I did not know about Casino Fantastic. Any gamers, can you give me some some info about this place. Is it similar to Veneto or Fiesta? Reading these reports just annoys me that much more about the mother fucking low life crook taxistas. I am trying to think of the name of my asshole taxi terrorista, will post once I remember. As a matter of fact I suggested GT to the bastard from the info I got from the forum and he with his tour guide bandito called the place and it worked to their favor. Hey, thats called home field advantage, a little gamesmanship, should accept it with a chip on your shoulder and be prepared the next time.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1195241]Yes, you did pay extra, when they put a sticker on you that means a cabby dropped you off. It would have cost you about 80-85 for an HOUR if no cabby drops you off.[/QUOTE]I did not like GT anyways. So it did not matter. I don't know what others think, but massage places like these are monger101 for me which I have gotten over a long time ago, clock watching, tiny bed, avg shower etc. Plus the service from the flacca Colombina I picked was much below average even by Panama standards (comapred to Veneto or Habanos). She was not mean but clearly mechanical as any other masagista. Honestly I picked her just because I was there and I took all the effort to get to the place. 80% of me was ready to leave. I was there and had to try it.

Well here are some general tourist pics and a peruvian chica, something to give back to contributing members, for the Panama board which seems to be anemic.

[QUOTE=Cultureshock; 1195684]Looks like the best options for value and location are Hotel Milan and Torres de Alba, being just a few blocks from the action in Cangrejo and well under $100 a night.

Does anyone know if these hotels charge a chica fee? Also, would like to try to connect girls on Mundo Anuncio, and trying to determine the suitability of these hotels for meeting them. Has anyone stayed there recently, and able to offer up some advice?[/QUOTE]I emailed the hotel milian and torres de alba, and not replies after three days. There look like the best alternatives to the Veneto, but I am getting mixed signals on the Internet.

[url]http://www.republicofpanama.net/Main/Ask_Panama_Jack/Hotel_Milan_Panama/[/url]

[QUOTE]Panama Visitors Guide no longer recommends the Hotel Milan Panama as a place to stay when visiting Panama City, Republic of Panama. There are many other Hotels that treat guests with better service. Also Hotel Milan Panama is known to not allow you to bring guests up to your room and to discriminate against certain kinds of people including gays.[/QUOTE]The above article appears to be recent. Anyone with first hand experience on the Milan?

Thanks.

[QUOTE]I emailed the hotel milian and torres de alba, and not replies after three days.[/QUOTE]Email is about as effective as smoke signals around here.

[QUOTE=Cultureshock; 1195684]Looks like the best options for value and location are Hotel Milan and Torres de Alba, being just a few blocks from the action in Cangrejo and well under $100 a night.

Does anyone know if these hotels charge a chica fee? Also, would like to try to connect girls on Mundo Anuncio, and trying to determine the suitability of these hotels for meeting them. Has anyone stayed there recently, and able to offer up some advice?

Also, I guess its kind of a basic question, but does the Veneto charge a guest fee?[/QUOTE]I am at the Veneto now, and have stayed here many times and never paid an additional fee. Just hop on the elevator and up to your room.

[QUOTE=Columbian Lover;1197248]I am at the Veneto now, and have stayed here many times and never paid an additional fee. Just hop on the elevator and up to your room.[/QUOTE]How is the action there right now? I think the raids have pretty much stopped and things are back to normal. Hows the scene in the casino? Damn I miss it can't wait to schedule a trip back!

Am currently here and thought I'd share my $0. 02. Veneto Fri night around 11pm nice band, few Cuties many dogs. My response to $150 was I'm going to spend my $ at golden time thanks. Went to casino fantastic@2am and spent about 1/2 hr wondering around to find GT. Finally found it and these two taxi drivers waiting outside put the red sticker on me to which I took off and gave the girl behind the counter explaining I won't be paying extra tonight. Anyways small lineup of 1 but the few chics around looked very good. Will be heading back tonight to check it out a bit earlier to get a full lineup.

Today I grabbed a taxi driver who tried to get me to go to goldfingers. Told him no find me something else. Went on a casa tour. First place quoted $95 / I laughedi and left. La Gloria was closed but gruto azul was opened. $17 for a quickie. Nothing to write home about but did the job. If had more time iwould return@night but tonight is GT, venetos, and back home on calle Uruguay. Anyone around PM me. Wouldn't mind someone to compare notes.

[QUOTE=Gimmedub; 1198107]Am currently here and thought I'd share my $0. 02. Veneto Fri night around 11pm nice band, few Cuties many dogs. My response to $150 was I'm going to spend my $ at golden time thanks. Went to casino [email]fantastic@2am[/email] And spent about 1/2 hr wondering around to find GT. Finally found it and these two taxi drivers waiting outside put the red sticker on me to which I took off and gave the girl behind the counter explaining I won't be paying extra tonight. Anyways small lineup of 1 but the few chics around looked very good. Will be heading back tonight to check it out a bit earlier to get a full lineup.

Today I grabbed a taxi driver who tried to get me to go to goldfingers. Told him no find me something else. Went on a casa tour. First place quoted $95 / I laughedi and left. La Gloria was closed but gruto azul was opened. $17 for a quickie. Nothing to write home about but did the job. If had more time iwould [email]return@night[/email] But tonight is GT, venetos, and back home on calle Uruguay. Anyone around PM me. Wouldn't mind someone to compare notes.[/QUOTE]How many women did you see at the Veneto? If you have time try to hit up Habanos.

My work is never finished. Always some new land to plunder. Though I must say I didn't do anything so impressive, at least I was able to get a taste of the scene. I even decided to cut my trip to Rio a bit short so that I could spend a handful of days in Panama. I go to Brazil often so a couple of days less there is no big deal.

Panama City is definitely the nicest Central American capital I have yet to visit. Far better than Guate City, Tegucigalpa or San Salvador. Decent looking chicks around the city also. Especially in the area of Vía Veneto. The first place I checked out was Oasis Massage. Got there around 2PM and was surprised by how small and rundown the place looked. There were 4 average looking gals lounging on the decrepit couches. I was tempted to turn and leave but when they stood up to present themselves I noticed that one of them was on the thin side and had an "exotic" look to her. So I figured "What the hell, might as well try her out". Paid the $85 and she took me to a private room. She called herself Jackie and said she was a Panameña / Chinese mix; which I guesss explained her features: light-skinned, thin, bubble-butt, etc. She spoke English pretty well which helped because my Spanish isn't as good as my Portuguese. Had a pretty round with her. She massaged me. I massaged her. She pulled out a special condom (ringed for her pleasure). All in all not a bad time. After showering and heading she stopped and asked me for a tip. I didn't know if this was the norm or not but I figure "why not" and slipped her $100. She seemed happy with this and asked me to return. Yet since the quality there wasn't so exceptional I didn't plan to.

The next day I paid a visit to Golden Times. In fact I went there twice, both times around 8PM in the evening. I just paid a taxi to ride me out there so they charged me $107 to take a lady each time. The first day I went there on a Thursday night and the line-up was quite impressive. They had at least 14 dames and all of them were pretty damn hot. I was so busy gawking at the beauties that I kept forgetting to note what number the ladies were wearing. Thus, when it came time to choose I had trouble remembering the women I wanted. A second showing with my top picks helped me to settle on a Colombian hottie named Valentina. She's actually a little "thick" for my tastes but she had all the right curves in the right places. Had a good time with her. Said she was from Medillín. Nada Ingles. No problema. She wanted a propina. $100. 'Nuff said. I returned the following Saturday and the line-up wasn't as good. Only about 6 dames available that time, but I decided to go with a skinny gal that time (my general preference) so. I choose a flacita chica from Medillín named Helen. Light skinned & sexy straight black hair. She was a lot more mechanical than the other gals but she was still cool to hook up with. Any gal that likes heavy metal is all right with me. She didn't ask for a tip but since I had given the other ladies one it would be fair not to treat her the same. No?

I checked out the Habanos & Veneto scene a bit but though I did see some cuties I never hung around for too long. I don't care much for the club scene and I usually don't stay out too late because in the mornings I got up early to to workout and do touristy stuff. Tried to check out Hawai massage but for some reason I couldn't find the darn place. The address system in Panama is sort of screwy IMO.

Overall, Panama City isn't so bad. It obviously can't compare to Rio, Buenos Aires, or Medillín but definitely a worthwhile stop if I have a chance to stop off in Central America in the future.

- DSK

This place is getting worse.

Rushed sex.

Hard pros.

And Boldly asking for tips.

Beware!

[QUOTE=Man; 1199067]This place is getting worse.

Rushed sex.

Hard pros.

And Boldly asking for tips.

Beware![/QUOTE]To man

This place still open someone told me it closed down 2 yr ago, I when there back in 2002 full of cute colombian chica and the price is right and service is good.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1199073]To man

This place still open someone told me it closed down 2 yr ago, I when there back in 2002 full of cute colombian chica and the price is right and service is good.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]A taxi driver likely told you it was closed because they get a larger commission somewhere else. Golden Time, Veneto and Habanos are wide open and currently have some really great selection. If a taxi driver tells you different, just tell him you were there last night."Yo estaba allí la noche anterior, ir ahora". Also as stated earlier, if you want to save $15-$20 don't have the taxista take you right to Golden Time (or Club Miami) as you will get hit with a big surcharge. Just tell them Casino Fantastico in El Dorado- then walk there.

Anyone have experience in Panama City during Christmas? I arrive in Panama City on December 24 for a connecting flight that takes off on December 25. I can stay in the airport or check into a hotel downtown. My question is about taxis running on December 24 and 25. Do they run or what I be stranded?

[QUOTE=Devilspinkick; 1198712]My work is never finished. Always some new land to plunder. Though I must say I didn't do anything so impressive, at least I was able to get a taste of the scene. I even decided to cut my trip to Rio a bit short so that I could spend a handful of days in Panama. I go to Brazil often so a couple of days less there is no big deal.

Panama City is definitely the nicest Central American capital I have yet to visit. Far better than Guate City, Tegucigalpa or San Salvador. Decent looking chicks around the city also. Especially in the area of Vía Veneto. The first place I checked out was Oasis Massage. Got there around 2PM and was surprised by how small and rundown the place looked. There were 4 average looking gals lounging on the decrepit couches. I was tempted to turn and leave but when they stood up to present themselves I noticed that one of them was on the thin side and had an "exotic" look to her. So I figured "What the hell, might as well try her out". Paid the $85 and she took me to a private room. She called herself Jackie and said she was a Panameña / Chinese mix; which I guesss explained her features: light-skinned, thin, bubble-butt, etc. She spoke English pretty well which helped because my Spanish isn't as good as my Portuguese. Had a pretty round with her. She massaged me. I massaged her. She pulled out a special condom (ringed for her pleasure). All in all not a bad time. After showering and heading she stopped and asked me for a tip. I didn't know if this was the norm or not but I figure "why not" and slipped her $100. She seemed happy with this and asked me to return. Yet since the quality there wasn't so exceptional I didn't plan to.

The next day I paid a visit to Golden Times. In fact I went there twice, both times around 8PM in the evening. I just paid a taxi to ride me out there so they charged me $107 to take a lady each time. The first day I went there on a Thursday night and the line-up was quite impressive. They had at least 14 dames and all of them were pretty damn hot. I was so busy gawking at the beauties that I kept forgetting to note what number the ladies were wearing. Thus, when it came time to choose I had trouble remembering the women I wanted. A second showing with my top picks helped me to settle on a Colombian hottie named Valentina. She's actually a little "thick" for my tastes but she had all the right curves in the right places. Had a good time with her. Said she was from Medillíand. Nada Ingles. No problema. She wanted a propina. $100. 'Nuff said. I returned the following Saturday and the line-up wasn't as good. Only about 6 dames available that time, but I decided to go with a skinny gal that time (my general preference) so. I choose a flacita chica from Medillíand named Helen. Light skinned & sexy straight black hair. She was a lot more mechanical than the other gals but she was still cool to hook up with. Any gal that likes heavy metal is all right with me. She didn't ask for a tip but since I had given the other ladies one it would be fair not to treat her the same. No?

I checked out the Habanos & Veneto scene a bit but though I did see some cuties I never hung around for too long. I don't care much for the club scene and I usually don't stay out too late because in the mornings I got up early to to workout and do touristy stuff. Tried to check out Hawai massage but for some reason I couldn't find the darn place. The address system in Panama is sort of screwy IMO.

Overall, Panama City isn't so bad. It obviously can't compare to Rio, Buenos Aires, or Medillíand but definitely a worthwhile stop if I have a chance to stop off in Central America in the future.

- DSK[/QUOTE]The correct price at GOLDEN TIME is $84 without a taxi and $94 with a taxi. The $107 price is what they charge gringos that don't know better. My taxi driver told me $107 is the new price and I told him $94 is the correct price. As much as I like Panama City (Veneto, golden time, Habanos) the taxi drivers are shameless liars. Do not believe anything they tell you.

I'm planning my first trip to Panama. Whats the best are to stay in and what hotels should I be in for guess friendly activity.

When I went they gave me my price that said 107. I said it was 84 a few weeks back and presto. Price went to 84 and I took a taxi there. PS no tipping in the room necessary.

[QUOTE=Hammerin Hank;1199747]The correct price at GOLDEN TIME is $84 without a taxi and $94 with a taxi. The $107 price is what they charge gringos that don't know better. My taxi driver told me $107 is the new price and I told him $94 is the correct price. As much as I like Panama City (Veneto, golden time, Habanos) the taxi drivers are shameless liars. Do not believe anything they tell you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1199711]Anyone have experience in Panama City during Christmas? I arrive in Panama City on December 24 for a connecting flight that takes off on December 25. I can stay in the airport or check into a hotel downtown. My question is about taxis running on December 24 and 25. Do they run or what I be stranded?[/QUOTE]Christmas is tough, most of the girls have gone home to Colombia to spent it with their families. You can find some action, but it's severely limited. Doesn't come back fully till around Jan 15th.

I have a few friends going to PC in October. They ask me to recommend to them a few clubs. They want dance clubs with regular girls, couples, etc. A few hookers would not matter, but they don't really want a Bodeguita, LDV, Blue Marlin type setting. I remember years ago there were a few not far from bodeguita. Anyone know whats open and hot now for the disco / dance club scene? And also the area it is in.

Thanks in advance

Also, any recomendations and contact info for a taxi/driver with a van big enough for six to eight guys for a private tour to the locks, etc...

Seis and manrey bar / hotel might meet your needs but like most of Latin America you should invite your girls you meet during the day to go out@night.

[QUOTE=Fantasy; 1201608]I have a few friends going to PC in October. They ask me to recommend to them a few clubs. They want dance clubs with regular girls, couples, etc. A few hookers would not matter, but they don't really want a Bodeguita, LDV, Blue Marlin type setting. I remember years ago there were a few not far from bodeguita. Anyone know whats open and hot now for the disco / dance club scene? And also the area it is in.

Thanks in advance.

Also, any recomendations and contact info for a taxi / driver with a van big enough for six to eight guys for a private tour to the locks, etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fantasy; 1201608]I have a few friends going to PC in October. They ask me to recommend to them a few clubs. They want dance clubs with regular girls, couples, etc. A few hookers would not matter, but they don't really want a Bodeguita, LDV, Blue Marlin type setting. I remember years ago there were a few not far from bodeguita. Anyone know whats open and hot now for the disco / dance club scene? And also the area it is in.

Thanks in advance.

Also, any recomendations and contact info for a taxi / driver with a van big enough for six to eight guys for a private tour to the locks, etc.[/QUOTE]There all lots of clubs and bars on Calle Uraguay. Great spot for dancing. I would also recommend Zona Viva, its an area with lots of bars and clubs as well in an old american army base. Lots of locals there, Friday and Saturday nights are the best night.

Gentleman.

I spent a week in Panama city in April and had a blast! Trip advisor is offering great fares on round trip tickets right now. I'm thinking of coming back, doing a day in PC, and then heading to Boco del Toro. My questions are. 1. Will I find good P4P in Boca del Toro? 2. Does anyone have good hotel recommendations? Thanks!

Just wondering if any of you has run into her recently at Veneto. Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks

[ATTACH=CONFIG]158933[/ATTACH]

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1203167]Just wondering if any of you has run into her recently at Veneto. Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]158933[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Did something go wrong? How does the Veneto look this days, Talent wise?

I'll be in town this Friday Oct 7th though Tuesday if any wants to head out for a few beers. Staying at the towers. PM me.

No CBJs is my motto. LOL.

Question on the non-pro bars on Calle Uruguay. Are there free lancers sprinkled into the scene? Easy to meet them as they will hunt you down? Just looking for something different possibly.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1203457]Did something go wrong? How does the Veneto look this days, Talent wise?[/QUOTE]She's my favorite. I've had many repeats with her. I saw her last time in January 2011 and was told she'd leave Panama and come bacl to Colombia this month, October 2011. I am planning a multi-country trip with the 1st stop in Panama in November. If she is still in Panama City, then I would plan a layover. If not, I'd skip.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Steve 99; 1203461]I'll be in town this Friday Oct 7th though Tuesday if any wants to head out for a few beers. Staying at the towers. PM me.

No CBJs is my motto. LOL.

Question on the non-pro bars on Calle Uruguay. Are there free lancers sprinkled into the scene? Easy to meet them as they will hunt you down? Just looking for something different possibly.[/QUOTE]Enjoy your trip pal, I'm jealous. I will prob be down in Feb during carnivale. Should be a crazy time. When I use to go to calle uraguay I did not see any free lancers. Lots of locals just having a good time, couples, friends etc. Please do report back on how everything was during your stay. Enjoy!

Ezyngo-

Yes I know that girl. Very well. With all do respect to you and your opinion, this girl is a total and outright *****. She epitomizes everything that is wrong with Panama now. She is very very Hot but, a clock watcher, and a horrible lay. I have been to Panama in the last 6 or 7 years at least 100 times. Things were much better back in the day. The girls were very appreciative of a gringo. Now it is hard to find one who is not mechanical et.

Anyway, I bought that girl drinks one night we talked for an hour. Then I said I was going to the Bathroom. She asked me for propina thinking I was leaving for the night. All we did is talk. Fine, okay, so I figure okay this is all business and I will just move in that direction. I began talking business and she said $250. 00. No thank you. Kissed her on the cheek and left. Came back to Veneto at 4am. She was still there. I knew at this point since it was late the price was going to go down. Indeed it did. Sealed the deal for TLN, untill 10am for $150. 00. Went back to my room began going at it. NO BJ, she kept her shirt on and no kissing. Okay no prob. Not a big deal. Not great but I'll live. Straps on the jimmy and its penetration time. It was the driest Vag I have ever gone into. Not one drop. SHe barely opened her legs. Okay no biggie, At this point as long as I get mine. About 10 minutes in and after looking at her basically checking out her watch, the condom breaks. I wasnt 100% sure because there was no warmth and no wet. Kept going for another minute and I think she found out it was broken. I wasnt sure. She throws me off her looks down and goes nuts. Starts yelling, crying. Et. Obviously ruined the night and she ran out the door. I mean given there profession isn't this an occupational hazard. I am sure this isn't the first time. In anycase, I go out the next night see her at VENETO working. (I guess it didn't bother her that much because she went back to work. Obviously she used it as an excuse to leave my room early).

She sees me and starts telling me I broke the rubber on purpose. I absolutely didn't. Then she says I owe her more money. I had paid in full. I leave again. Come back 330 am there she is again. She says lets go again. I said no. She then tells her friend which I overhere her that she wanted to go back to my room because she knew I had won in the casino, and could basically take advantage of me. This is not verbatum but close. , I am sorry to ramble, but I have seen this girl in Panama in each of the last 6 months. April-Oct. She is there she has not gone back to Colombia and she is working. So if she told you that its just another lie. In anycase, If you have had good luck with her or your expecations are only for a quick mechanical bang then thats cool, but the experience I had with her is not the worst one I have had. (being robbed is worse) but, given what Panama was and what it is now this girl to me is the poster child for what has changed about what used to be IMHO the best mongering spot in the world. Gilrs like her have ruined it.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1203657]Yes I know that girl.[/QUOTE]I just sent you a PM.

O boy. Sorry to hear this. Lessons to learn here.

1.Dont judge the book by its cover. I know this is difficult as sometimes you get carried away.

2. Never pay first, or just pay partial initially. Again this is difficult with demanding chicas, been there so many times.

3. Condom breaking is not your fault. Learn to explain that in local lingo and promptly slip on another one and begin.

4. Do not hesitate to threaten. This is where not paying up helps. Pick up the phone like your going to call the front desk. At hotels like Veneto I am pretty sure guests have the upper hand. You can throw her out without paying anymore. I am sure you can come up with an explanation if asked like she is crazy or you already paid her or she tried to steal and even get her a blacklisted (wishful thinking).

Well, I haven't been too successful with the above myself, but trying to get there, and definitely getting better.

Worst case if all fails take pics of her and post it here warning other members. (Take the pics first before you start getting into all this). Little redemption.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1203657]Ezyngo-

Yes I know that girl. Very well. With all do respect to you and your opinion, this girl is a total and outright. She epitomizes everything that is wrong with Panama now. She is very very Hot but, a clock watcher, and a horrible lay. I have been to Panama in the last 6 or 7 years at least 100 times. Things were much better back in the day. The girls were very appreciative of a gringo. Now it is hard to find one who is not mechanical et.

Anyway, I bought that girl drinks one night we talked for an hour. Then I said I was going to the Bathroom. She asked me for propina thinking I was leaving for the night. All we did is talk. Fine, okay, so I figure okay this is all business and I will just move in that direction. I began talking business and she said $250. 00. No thank you. Kissed her on the cheek and left. Came back to Veneto at 4am. She was still there. I knew at this point since it was late the price was going to go down. Indeed it did. Sealed the deal for TLN, untill 10am for $150. 00. Went back to my room began going at it. NO BJ, she kept her shirt on and no kissing. Okay no prob. Not a big deal. Not great but I'll live. Straps on the jimmy and its penetration time. It was the driest Vag I have ever gone into. Not one drop. SHe barely opened her legs. Okay no biggie, At this point as long as I get mine. About 10 minutes in and after looking at her basically checking out her watch, the condom breaks. I wasnt 100% sure because there was no warmth and no wet. Kept going for another minute and I think she found out it was broken. I wasnt sure. She throws me off her looks down and goes nuts. Starts yelling, crying. Et. Obviously ruined the night and she ran out the door. I mean given there profession isn't this an occupational hazard. I am sure this isn't the first time. In anycase, I go out the next night see her at VENETO working. (I guess it didn't bother her that much because she went back to work. Obviously she used it as an excuse to leave my room early).

She sees me and starts telling me I broke the rubber on purpose. I absolutely didn't. Then she says I owe her more money. I had paid in full. I leave again. Come back 330 am there she is again. She says lets go again. I said no. She then tells her friend which I overhere her that she wanted to go back to my room because she knew I had won in the casino, and could basically take advantage of me. This is not verbatum but close. , I am sorry to ramble, but I have seen this girl in Panama in each of the last 6 months. April-Oct. She is there she has not gone back to Colombia and she is working. So if she told you that its just another lie. In anycase, If you have had good luck with her or your expecations are only for a quick mechanical bang then thats cool, but the experience I had with her is not the worst one I have had. (being robbed is worse) but, given what Panama was and what it is now this girl to me is the poster child for what has changed about what used to be IMHO the best mongering spot in the world. Gilrs like her have ruined it.[/QUOTE]

Kman.

Thanks and I agree, however I like the GFE and try not to be Hard Core and tough. Even when I know I am takin advantage of by these girls.

Panama has such a great set up with all the Indepents and Independent bars but I have basically chosen another country to monger in where these type of rip offs don't happen. Along with all the Imigration raids which if you visit during the wrong week can ruin your vacation. There are exceptions in Panama and sometimes you meet the right Chica and its a great time but few and far between now.

Every now and then a friend wants to go back to Panama and I go with but, since Panama has become so wam bam thank you maam and professional I am avoiding it as a Monger destination. I am just not into the BS anymore.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1203680]Kman.

Thanks and I agree, however I like the GFE and try not to be Hard Core and tough. Even when I know I am takin advantage of by these girls.

Panama has such a great set up with all the Indepents and Independent bars but I have basically chosen another country to monger in where these type of rip offs don't happen. Along with all the Imigration raids which if you visit during the wrong week can ruin your vacation. There are exceptions in Panama and sometimes you meet the right Chica and its a great time but few and far between now.

Every now and then a friend wants to go back to Panama and I go with but, since Panama has become so wam bam thank you maam and professional I am avoiding it as a Monger destination. I am just not into the BS anymore.[/QUOTE]Mfin, I had the same condom breaking crap, chica raised hell, and I managed to sit her back and finish the deed. Not the most satisfying experience but something to be prepared for in Panama. They have set routines and know how to play the game. If they ask you to pay upfront try not to or at least put the money in a common area.

Glad you have a new destination. Have fun.

For me DR is a lot more accommodating with the chicas but just the 'creature comforts' could be an issue.

I'm looking for colombian girls in the afternoon very good looking were can I find?

[QUOTE=Wambo89;1204616]I'm looking for colombian girls in the afternoon very good looking were can I find?[/QUOTE]In the afternoon, there are usually a few Colombian chicas hooking around or in Manolo, the restaurant diagonally across from Veneto. One time I found a 9 there around 1400. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1203680]Kman.

Thanks and I agree, however I like the GFE and try not to be Hard Core and tough. Even when I know I am takin advantage of by these girls.

Panama has such a great set up with all the Indepents and Independent bars but I have basically chosen another country to monger in where these type of rip offs don't happen. Along with all the Imigration raids which if you visit during the wrong week can ruin your vacation. There are exceptions in Panama and sometimes you meet the right Chica and its a great time but few and far between now.

Every now and then a friend wants to go back to Panama and I go with but, since Panama has become so wam bam thank you maam and professional I am avoiding it as a Monger destination. I am just not into the BS anymore.[/QUOTE]I'm with you, Mfins. Have been to PC 5-6 times in the past three years. Girl numbers and quality are down with each visit. Grant it, you can get a decent girl out of most places for $80, but they're all clock watchers. I too have moved on and taken PC off my list of hobby destinations.

I will be back there this weekend and will report how it is. My buddy hasnt been in over two years so who am I to say no.

Also one of my regulars is back from Colombia. She was there 5 or 6 years ago and was one of the fun, happy go lucky, non pro, non clock watchers. It will be good to see her.

I hope for my friends sake we have good luck but, I have pre warned him this isn't the same Panama!

I do have to say the Hotel service and food have gotten marginally better over the years. Although the price has also increased.

Anyone want to please chime in on where your finding $80-$100 prices out of Veneto, Habanas, A Che. I have always understood the price to be $150. 00 for multiple hours.

[QUOTE=Wambo89;1204616]I'm looking for colombian girls in the afternoon very good looking were can I find?[/QUOTE]Boca Torena there no finer place in Pamana and the price is right.

I did a extended in PTY Colombus Day weekend. I was primarily involved in non-hobby activities because I'm considering PTY is a potential relocation option. As far a chica action, I still that the city has some very good, but put more costly options. I'm a Colombia and DR regular so obviously the price structure is different, but I have found that with good Spanish and a little game you can get a GFE / PSE experience at a price still lower than US or Euro costs. After landing and checking into my apartment rental me and my buddy headed out to the Veneto just to check out the action on Friday night. It was early and pretty slow, but the colombianas were in full force. A chatted with a few, but I figured I could get the same chicas at a lower price if I waited few hours. All the visual stimulation had us riled up so we walked down the block to check out Oasis. No luck they were closed. I also noticed that Moulin Rouge and the other SC in the strip center had police crime tape across their doors. I figured they were recently hit for a failure to pay appropriate bribe. No problem. We just walked around the block and caught a cab up to Golden Times. Well as far as the cabbie knew we were going to the Fantastico Casino. LOL. GT had a pretty good line up for 12AM. Their were at least 15 chicas working. As always, all colombianitas. I picked a chaparrita with a nice trasero from Pereira and my buddy took a caleña. Being Colombia veterans we got an excellent vibe from them since we knew so much about Colombia. I've always had luck with the chicas from Pereira and I usually end up picking them for some reason. Eventually, I need to actually visit the city. I had an excellent GFE session (BBBJ) with her that went way over the hour, but the senora really didn't bother us because me and my buddy were the only 2 customers in the place. We paid the standard $87 rate.

We went back to the Veneto and my buddy hit the poker room while I sucked down some Abuelo rum at the bar and danced some salsa and couple of merengues with two waitresses that were off duty and just hanging out. I made sure to the tell them how offended I was by all the Colombiana putas and that I was looking for a good panameña for a serious relationship. They both busted out laughing. Clearly, I have no credibility. The girls left and my buddy came back from poker. We grabbed some late night food from the bar and had a few more drinks. By this time it's 4:30AM and I'm beat and slightly drunk and we get approached by this fine chocolate panameña. She starts giving my buddy the hard sale, but she nice and friendly. She tells him cien and he immediately says sí. Like he always does. She tells me she'll get her friend for me. I tell her no thanks I'm tired and going to bed. She pretends to get all sad saying that it's a shame that morenos (like me) don't like morenas and negras. I told her I love dark women as long as they speak Spanish or Portuguese. I tried to reinforce that I really am beat and need to sleep, but I quickly change my mind when I see her amigas delicious ass.

So away we go to our apartment building. In quickly realized that I had made a mistake in the cab because the amiga is a total perra with an awful attitude. I figured that I'll go ahead and take one for the team since by buddy was really into the other girl. I figured since we have separate apartments, I can just kick her out w / cab fare only if the bad attitude continues. We the attitude continued and she tried to pull an upsale on me. I told her she could leave now or change her attitude quickly. I explained exactly what I expected if she stayed and if she couldn't or wouldn't perform for $100, she could go. We strip and shower together and that little bit of foreplay improved the mood. She gave me a lame BBBJ which certainly didn't help me in my exhausted, drunken state. I went down on her and she gave me the fake moan routine. This is something that I have zero tolerance for. If I lick she MUST cum! So I decided to pull out all my tricks including the g-spot stimulation. I made her squirt. She damn near suffocated me with jugo de chocha and clamped down my neck with her thighs when I tried to come up for air. She layed there shivering and curled up like she was going to sleep. Not a chance that was going to happen. She pissed me off now I'm going to take it out her. I pounded that chica in every conceivable position for the next 1 1/2 hours before I blew. The sheets were drenched with jugo de chocha and sweat, the covers were all on the floor, and the mattress was half way off the bed. She was passed out with a smile on her face and I laid there too tired to sleep and too damn tired to even take the condom off. I was comatose, but highly satisfied that I salvaged a session that was quickly going south. I tell guys all the time. All it takes is asserting some dominance with a latina chic to get her to do what you want. That applies to good girls and hardened putas all the same. When she woke up and left she joked that she was mad at me because she was going to be too sore and tired to get another client Saturday night. I told her "la culpa tuya. Por no te comportabas bien conmigo". She left me her number and being a true caballero and walked her downstairs and got her a cab.

I did no hobby activity on Saturday and I went and repeated with Pereira chica from GT on Sunday. Excellent time again. I was 3 for 3 on this trip. I know alot of guys have written of PTY, as a hobby destination, but a great time can be had if you've got some Spanish skill and some game.

Great report Oscuro! I had a blast in PC in April. Looking forward to getting back!

[QUOTE=Caballero Oscuro;1207540]I told her she could leave now or change her attitude quickly. I explained exactly what I expected if she stayed and if she couldn't or wouldn't perform for $100, she could go.[/QUOTE]Hat off to you brotha.

Went with an open mind as I was with my buddy who can have fun anywhere any time. I will make a long story short if I can. Veneto had plenty of girls. Seems as though Immigration made there statement a couple months ago and has backed off. I did not see anything over a 6 or 7 out of the 75 girls at Veneto both Fri and Sat night.

Went to La Palace just to look. No cover $9. 50 each per beer. Hot girls same $300 for 45 min. We passed.

A che seemed a little slow. Had about 20 girls or so on each Fri and Sat night.

We spent most of our time at Habanos. The most talent was there. About 50-75 girls. Mostly 6's but there were a couple of 8's and some 9's. The problem is that Panama has changed as I have said before. It is all about money and time. As in more money and less time. Every transaction seems to require a business negotiation and then a contract signing. Every name a girl gives you is a Stage name. It gets tiring. They must all go to the same school now that teaches them the art of Negotioations. It is so impersonal. A little bargaining okay but not to the level it is now. It is almost Vegas like.

The other issue is that the 8's and 9's that come in to the place are there five minutes get picked up by the business man on vacation go to there respected hotel come back 30-45 minutes later. Five minutes after that repeat. We litteraly saw one girl leave with 4 different guys in a 2 hourish period and come back. Those girls are getting run through.

Sure the 6's are plentifull and willing. $100 multiple hours but you get what you pay for.

I tried negotiating with a 9 and she wouldn't budge off $350 for two hours. COME ON. One 9 I was talking to just up and left me after 2 minutes. I am not ugly, overweight old or cheap.

My buddy found a Peruvian working there actually she found him a Solid 7 but her personallity was awesome and so were the evening activities from what he told me. SO yes there are diamonds in the rough. They can be found but you have to wade through 50 other girls bullsh* to find one good one. Therer are other and better mongering spots. I stuck with a girl I knew from years before (the gold old days) She had aged but still fun and nice.

On a side note, when we were gambling at the Black Jack tables I must have had a 15 people come up to me at different times asking for a $5 chip. They would stalk me, see me win a hand and figure that was the time to jump in and try to beg as I would be most willing to give. Even our regular cab driver demanded $100 for dropping us at 2 places. Ridiculous. His last client who he drove around for a couple hours gave him a $100 so now he figures thats the going rate. Look Panama can be fun, there are certainly a lot of girls in a concentrated area but I will not be going back anytime soon. (this time I mean it) There are just better places out there now adays. R. I. P Panama.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1207861]There are just better places out there now adays. R. I. P Panama.[/QUOTE]I have not been back to Panama City since last January. From what I read about it recently, I will only do a overnight layover and then onto a 3-city tour in Colombia. Much better value for your money especially for those on a budget. Thank you for the report.

EZ

Seems as though Immigration made there statement a couple months ago and has backed off.

Great to hear, looks like things are back to normal at veneto / habanos. There wasnt that many women there when I went back in last sept. Anyone else recently came back from Veneto / Panama? Does anyone know when carnivale will be next year. Planning on going then.

[QUOTE=Snipps; 1208161]Seems as though Immigration made there statement a couple months ago and has backed off.

Great to hear, looks like things are back to normal at veneto / habanos. There wasnt that many women there when I went back in last sept. Anyone else recently came back from Veneto / Panama? Does anyone know when carnivale will be next year. Planning on going then.[/QUOTE]Snipes, Be carefull going during Carnival. Most people flee the city and go to the small towns to drink and celebrate all week. In fact I believe they stop selling alcohol for a 3 day stretch during Carnival. Most if not all of the CLubs and Casinos close. Carnival is fun but not really for Mongering. Same with Easter and Christmas and also Día de los Muertos.

If your dead set on taking a trip and you like the Colombian Chicas (who doesn't) just go to Colombia. There are not any Independent type clubs ie (Habanos-Veneto-A Che) like in Panama but there are plenty of cool spots and I have pulled a free lancer out of a casino in Medellin once.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1208219]Snipes, Be carefull going during Carnival. Most people flee the city and go to the small towns to drink and celebrate all week. In fact I believe they stop selling alcohol for a 3 day stretch during Carnival. Most if not all of the CLubs and Casinos close. Carnival is fun but not really for Mongering. Same with Easter and Christmas and also Día de los Muertos.

If your dead set on taking a trip and you like the Colombian Chicas (who doesn't) just go to Colombia. There are not any Independent type clubs ie (Habanos-Veneto-A Che) like in Panama but there are plenty of cool spots and I have pulled a free lancer out of a casino in Medellin once.[/QUOTE]Thanks, just spoke with a long time friend and he said he just got back from Peru. We were talking about it not that long ago. He said Lima is absolutely beautiful, Clean and safe. He also said there are a lot more spots than Panama (I assume massage parlars) but again not the same set up as veneto. He said flight was expensive but as far as price goes for mongering its about the same as Panama.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1208234]Thanks, just spoke with a long time friend and he said he just got back from Peru. We were talking about it not that long ago. He said Lima is absolutely beautiful, Clean and safe. He also said there are a lot more spots than Panama (I assume massage parlars) but again not the same set up as veneto. He said flight was expensive but as far as price goes for mongering its about the same as Panama.[/QUOTE]Lima is cool. Tequila Rocks is like a Habanos type place. ITs a Huge city so there are a lot of places to go. A lot of freelancers like Panama except Lima has better food, friendly people and better service. The price in Lima is a little cheaper too. Its a good place fairly touristy but, cool.

Hello All. I was wondering if anyone knew of any good dating websites for Panama?

I did a Google search and didn't come up with anything too interesting. Latinamericancupid. Com seemed like a well constructed site, but I did not want to waste my time before getting some expert advice. My goal is to find a nice girlfriend down there, maybe get an apartment and a car or something. I'm not looking for Pros. There's nothing wrong with Pros, but I'm looking for more than just sex. Oh, BTW my Spanish is almost non-existent, I'm starting to work on it, but it will be a while before I can communicate.

Thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=Mjohnson458; 1209022]Hello, All. I was wondering if anyone knew of any good dating websites for Panama?

I did a Google search and didn't come up with anything too interesting. Latinamericancupid. Com seemed like a well constructed site, but I did not want to waste my time before getting some expert advice. My goal is to find a nice girlfriend down there, maybe get an apartment and a car or something. I'm not looking for Pros. There's nothing wrong with Pros, but I'm looking for more than just sex. Oh, BTW my Spanish is almost non-existent, I'm starting to work on it, but it will be a while before I can communicate.

Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]Believe it or not, facebook is a good resource!

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1209096]Believe it or not, facebook is a good resource![/QUOTE]Thanks for the response GauntMan. How would I locate interested girls to talk to on Facebook though?

[QUOTE=Mjohnson458;1209152]Thanks for the response GauntMan. How would I locate interested girls to talk to on Facebook though?[/QUOTE]It will not be an easy task. If you do plan to establish yourself, its going to take a lot of social engineering on your part if using facebook. Get to know a few locals, and then those you meet will introduce you to others and so so. But if you want a quick approach, you should try one of the dating sites

I don't understand why people would want to waste time and money on "dating sites" which are just full of [email]wh@res[/email], when they could just proceed directly to [email]wh@res.[/email] What am I missing here?

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1209307]I don't understand why people would want to waste time and money on "dating sites" which are just full of [email]wh@res[/email], when they could just proceed directly to [email]wh@res.[/email] What am I missing here?[/QUOTE]If you see the previous posts, Mjohnson458 isn't looking for pros, and when you want to venture to another country without knowing anyone, a dating site, even when its that they do have pros, its going to be your best chance at finding that special someone

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1209612]If you see the previous posts, Mjohnson458 isn't looking for pros, and when you want to venture to another country without knowing anyone, a dating site, even when its that they do have pros, its going to be your best chance at finding that special someone[/QUOTE]I think you're right Gauntman, the dating sites will have to be my best bet. I'm sure there'll be some pros on there, but there'll be "real" girls as well. So I'll take the good with the bad and see what they have to offer. Thanks a lot and I'll let you know how it goes!

[QUOTE=Mjohnson458;1209868]I'm sure there'll be some pros on there, but there'll be "real" girls as well.[/QUOTE]Yes. But why are you interested in women from Panama? Colombian women are more beautiful than their Panamanian counterpart, IMHO.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1208219]Same with Easter and Christmas and also Día de los Muertos.[/QUOTE]I got a 1 day layover in Panama City on Christmas Day. Should I even leave the airport? I was going to use points to stay in a nice hotel and maybe do some sight seeing.

Everything is closed on Christmas day as people tend to spend time with family and loved ones on this particular holiday. I would not even get out of the airport ubless you really want to.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1211414]I got a 1 day layover in Panama City on Christmas Day. Should I even leave the airport? I was going to use points to stay in a nice hotel and maybe do some sight seeing.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, There will be nothing open then. Now is the best time to go. Between now and the end of November as all the Colombianas are there trying to make money before Christmas time. There will be plenty of clock watchers and mechanical sex to be had by all for the next month.

Once the beggining of December comes the vast majority go back to Colombia and really don't come back to Panama untill the middle to end of January. Sometimes even later than that. There are still a few stragglers but not much.

Seems there are two come up with hotels. Com search. Is it decent? Staying overnight on our way to CTG. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sean EZ;1214777]Seems there are two come up with hotels. Com search. Is it decent? Staying overnight on our way to CTG. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I search on Kayak. Com. There is one and only one Veneto. Its full name is Veneto- A Wyndham Grand Hotel.

The address is.

Eusebio A Morales Ave And Via Veneto Str.

Panama City 0831 00181, Panama.

1-507-3408888.

Try this link.

[url]http://www.kayak.com/out?url=http[/url]%3A%2F%[url]2Fwww.wyndham.com[/url]%2Fhotels%2FPTYWV%2Fmain. Wnt%3FcorporateCode%3D1000005339%26iataNumber%3D00026946&h=BEJ_wF4s_yF$_P$xaooAsg.

It is expensive and, therefore very decent. You have everything in one place, I. E, casino, chicas, mostly Colombians. Most everyone, who have mongered in Panama City, stayed here one time or another. But for me, it is the only hotel I stay while in PTY.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1211414]I got a 1 day layover in Panama City on Christmas Day. Should I even leave the airport? I was going to use points to stay in a nice hotel and maybe do some sight seeing.[/QUOTE]Well you can try getting a room in the hotel near the airport and then get an incall, try the classifieds at mundoanuncio. Com and see if you might someone willing to go there

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1214780]I.

It is expensive and, therefore very decent. You have everything in one place, I. E, casino, chicas, mostly Colombians. Most everyone, who have mongered in Panama City, stayed here one time or another. But for me, it is the only hotel I stay while in PTY.[/QUOTE]Oh ok thanks Ezyngo, hotels was showing two locations but it's same one. Booked 126 per night + tax.

Anyone knows of any good clubs on Wednesdays, not for working girls but get a table and listen to modern music and mingle with non pros to get the night started so to speak? We got rest of P4P action covered from reading the board. Catching morning flight to Cartagena so pulling an all nighter.

[QUOTE=Sean EZ; 1215009]Oh ok thanks Ezyngo, hotels was showing two locations but it's same one. Booked 126 per night + tax.

Anyone knows of any good clubs on Wednesdays, not for working girls but get a table and listen to modern music and mingle with non pros to get the night started so to speak? We got rest of P4P action covered from reading the board. Catching morning flight to Cartagena so pulling an all nighter.[/QUOTE]Probably something on Calle Uruguay. There is bound to be a night club offering a ladies night down there with live music et.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1215020]Probably something on Calle Uruguay. There is bound to be a night club offering a ladies night down there with live music et.[/QUOTE]There is a new place called altabar, right on calle uruguay, has a neat open terrace with decent accomodations to have a drink, smoke, have some snacks and chill with a dj with conversation level music, free cover to the entrance and if you get early, you get complimentary access to the main club area

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1211807]Everything is closed on Christmas day as people tend to spend time with family and loved ones on this particular holiday. I would not even get out of the airport ubless you really want to.[/QUOTE]Boca Torena is open 24/7 364 days a year only day it is closed is good Friday. And a nice place for some Holiday cheer.

Attention fellow mongers:

The president signed a decree this past November 9th (the night before a holiday) regulating the operatiing hours of ALL entertainment related venues, name clubs, bars, billiards, restaurants and the like. The only exceptions are the bars / clubs located inside licensed hotels.

Mongering hours should be rearranged by everyone, no more after parties and the like (at least for now). The local bar association has filed a lawsuit against it today and its pending review, but in the meantime, the decree is in full effect.

Only safe spots to monger will the the casinos, Venetto, Fiesta, Majestic that are located in hotel premises. Expect A LOT of people at 3am, because everyone will be partying at clubs then migrating to casinos.

The full time frame is.

Sunday thru Wednesday, closing time will be at 2am.

Thursday thru Saturday, closing will be at 3am

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1217352]Attention fellow mongers:

The president signed a decree this past November 9th (the night before a holiday) regulating the operatiing hours of ALL entertainment related venues, name clubs, bars, billiards, restaurants and the like. The only exceptions are the bars / clubs located inside licensed hotels.

Mongering hours should be rearranged by everyone, no more after parties and the like (at least for now). The local bar association has filed a lawsuit against it today and its pending review, but in the meantime, the decree is in full effect.

Only safe spots to monger will the the casinos, Venetto, Fiesta, Majestic that are located in hotel premises. Expect A LOT of people at 3am, because everyone will be partying at clubs then migrating to casinos.

The full time frame is.

Sunday thru Wednesday, closing time will be at 2am.

Thursday thru Saturday, closing will be at 3am[/QUOTE]Update:

The mayor has countered with a decree of his own. Since the president overturned the authority of the mayor with the alcohol decree, he will create another decree upholding the previous, but including the casinos AND the sale of alcohol in any market, supermarket and convenience store. Things are about to get messy, as these decrees all have political backgrounds

There seems to be an evil plot to f*k up my vacation!

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1217703]Update:

The mayor has countered with a decree of his own. Since the president overturned the authority of the mayor with the alcohol decree, he will create another decree upholding the previous, but including the casinos AND the sale of alcohol in any market, supermarket and convenience store. Things are about to get messy, as these decrees all have political backgrounds[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cultureshock; 1196814]I emailed the hotel milian and torres de alba, and not replies after three days. There look like the best alternatives to the Veneto, but I am getting mixed signals on the Internet.

[url]http://www.republicofpanama.net/Main/Ask_Panama_Jack/Hotel_Milan_Panama/[/url]

The above article appears to be recent. Anyone with first hand experience on the Milan?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at Hotel Milan several times. Very clean and comfortable, much quieter than Vegas Suites. Normally I call first, then they respond via email to confirm.

Very clean, very nice, and private. As of last year, they allowed guests up to room but you must come downstairs and meet them, that's it. Also, when you leave the key stays with them. They now have Wi-fi, and if you pay cash they offer a discount.

Thank you for all the info. I think I have this pinned down just need some strings to pull together. I have gathered I need to stay at a Casino hotel (prob Veneto) for me and my buddies trip this Dec for New years eve. Other than the Columbians who tend to over charge and be mechanical. Is there a recommendation for a first timer with wing man? Like few hotel options and some MUST GO places. I dig the cheap chicks during the day and a maybe a 1 to 1. 5 at night if I feel like it. I have been to Costa rica and I gather the feeling it is very similar. So if someone could respond with a few MUST GO TO spots and what to be had that would be huge. There is just so much info here it would be hard to get to it all so I would like to SUM up my 4 day trip with the important stops. Maybe a good massage parlor, club, restaurant. Call it a TO DO LIST. LOL. Thank you in advance.

GEO!

I will be full detail reporting on all of this with pics. And if anyone cares to pick my brain on Tijuana, CR Bangkok or Manila I am your guy. Just looking to broaden my horizons.

[QUOTE=George Sims; 1219720]Thank you for all the info. I think I have this pinned down just need some strings to pull together. I have gathered I need to stay at a Casino hotel (prob Veneto) for me and my buddies trip this Dec for New years eve. Other than the Columbians who tend to over charge and be mechanical. Is there a recommendation for a first timer with wing man? Like few hotel options and some MUST GO places. I dig the cheap chicks during the day and a maybe a 1 to 1. 5 at night if I feel like it. I have been to Costa rica and I gather the feeling it is very similar. So if someone could respond with a few MUST GO TO spots and what to be had that would be huge. There is just so much info here it would be hard to get to it all so I would like to SUM up my 4 day trip with the important stops. Maybe a good massage parlor, club, restaurant. Call it a TO DO LIST. LOL. Thank you in advance.

GEO!

I will be full detail reporting on all of this with pics. And if anyone cares to pick my brain on Tijuana, CR Bangkok or Manila I am your guy. Just looking to broaden my horizons.[/QUOTE]To do list below. Promise us a nice report when you get back especially with the new Carrot law in affect, and how that is affecting business down there.

1. Best massage Parlor (Golden times)

2. Restaurants, Gaucho, Manolos and Rino's. Awesome italian food.

3. Bars- all of them on Calle Uraguay. Only 3 4 blocks away from Veneto. Or Zona viva, depends which nights.

4. Always negotiate with cab drivers in front of the veneto.

5. Best cigar / bar pick up spot is Habanos.

6. Places of interest not to miss, Habanos, Elite, Golden time, Veneto Bar of course, and the best strip club with the hottest women in just white lace Le Palace.

Enjoy! Wish I was going!

Snipps pretty much nailed it.

Habanos, Veneto- also after midnight A' Che and La Bodeguita. (a lot of the Habanos girls go there after 12)

Cabs in between these places should be $3-$4 each way no more unless you get into a Private Honda or something.

Not sure when your going but, if you have a choice go after Mid January as the girls will steadily start leaving to go back to Colombia for the Holidays from the Begining of Dec until a week or so after new years Enjoy.

The word from Panama is that all the clubs such as Le Palace and Elite are now open much earlier like at 7pm.

The new laws define closing time for all bars and clubs at 2am. This does not apply to casinos. It seems logical to assume that after 2am the best places to get the chicas from all the establishments would be the casinos with much bargains to be had for all.

Finding liquor to take to your room after closing hours should not be a problem because liquor shops which you can find in any Rey Supermarket some of which open 24 hrs.

While much has been said about Veneto it seems the best place to stay because it is the most chica friendly casino so far lets hope that does not change also its going to be ground zero for all chicas from Habanos and all the other clubs. Have a great safe vacation look forward to the reports.

[QUOTE=Snipps; 1219960]To do list below. Promise us a nice report when you get back especially with the new Carrot law in affect, and how that is affecting business down there.

1. Best massage Parlor (Golden times)

2. Restaurants, Gaucho, Manolos and Rino's. Awesome italian food.

3. Bars- all of them on Calle Uraguay. Only 3 4 blocks away from Veneto. Or Zona viva, depends which nights.

4. Always negotiate with cab drivers in front of the veneto.

5. Best cigar / bar pick up spot is Habanos.

6. Places of interest not to miss, Habanos, Elite, Golden time, Veneto Bar of course, and the best strip club with the hottest women in just white lace Le Palace.

Enjoy! Wish I was going![/QUOTE]What a GREAT report back. I like "to do " lists from people who know whats up. After I frequent a spot or get a good lay of the land I make a "to do" list for next return or advice for friends that will travel. Thank you for the time. I will report back. Doing a little new years bash there. Should be wild. So I hope. I will report back. And one last question. Is WI FI good down there or horrible connections like every other Latin country I been to?

The Wifi is good. Let us know how Habanos and Veneto are during that time. Most of the girls go back to Colombia for the holidays like I mentioned but, I am interested to see how it is.

[QUOTE=George Sims;1220411]What a GREAT report back. I like "to do " lists from people who know whats up. After I frequent a spot or get a good lay of the land I make a "to do" list for next return or advice for friends that will travel. Thank you for the time. I will report back. Doing a little new years bash there. Should be wild. So I hope. I will report back. And one last question. Is WI FI good down there or horrible connections like every other Latin country I been to?[/QUOTE]A few days ago the mayor of PTY passed a law that forces the casinos and hotels to stop serving liquor at the same hours as the bars.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1220869]A few days ago the mayor of PTY passed a law that forces the casinos and hotels to stop serving liquor at the same hours as the bars.[/QUOTE]Just saw this article. I HOPE PC IS NOT GETTING WORSE ANY THOUGHTS WHO ARE THERE NOW? Feels like its just getting worse and worse!

39 Arrested, Twelve Nightclubs Sanctioned in "Carrot Law" Busts.

Monday, November 28 2011@02:23 PM COT.

The Mayor of Panama City in a press release reported the closing of "My Bodeguita" and the sanctioning of twelve nightclubs for failing to comply with Decrees Number 1896 and 1899, which established the "Carrot Law." This came after raids conducted this weekend. The press release said during these operations 39 people were arrested for disrespect to the authorities. Some people were arrested because they were illegal immigrants, and others who are involved in prostitution without an updated health card or permit. They were turned over to the "competent authorities."

Municipal authorities during a Preventive Security operation visited neighborhoods in the areas of Calidonia, Santa Ana. 24 de Diciembre, Juan Diaz, San Francisco (Calle Uruguay) , where several bars and nightclubs were fined for violating the decree governing limits on the sound levels (decibels) in nightclubs. The action was led by Justice of the Peace on shift, Luis Morales and the coordinator of the Justices of the Peace, Reynaldo Morales, personal from the office of Municipal Surveillance, as well as from the Law and Justice office, among other officials. The coordinator of the Justices of the Peace Reynaldo Morales said operations will continue in the 21 different sectors of the capital city in order to reduce the high rate of delinquencies that occur daily in our country. (TVN)

[QUOTE=Snipps; 1221848]Just saw this article. I HOPE PC IS NOT GETTING WORSE ANY THOUGHTS WHO ARE THERE NOW? Feels like its just getting worse and worse!

39 Arrested, Twelve Nightclubs Sanctioned in "Carrot Law" Busts.

Monday, November 28 [email]2011@02[/email]:23 PM COT.

The Mayor of Panama City in a press release reported the closing of "My Bodeguita" and the sanctioning of twelve nightclubs for failing to comply with Decrees Number 1896 and 1899, which established the "Carrot Law." This came after raids conducted this weekend. The press release said during these operations 39 people were arrested for disrespect to the authorities. Some people were arrested because they were illegal immigrants, and others who are involved in prostitution without an updated health card or permit. They were turned over to the "competent authorities."

Municipal authorities during a Preventive Security operation visited neighborhoods in the areas of Calidonia, Santa Ana. 24 de Diciembre, Juan Diaz, San Francisco (Calle Uruguay) , where several bars and nightclubs were fined for violating the decree governing limits on the sound levels (decibels) in nightclubs. The action was led by Justice of the Peace on shift, Luis Morales and the coordinator of the Justices of the Peace, Reynaldo Morales, personal from the office of Municipal Surveillance, as well as from the Law and Justice office, among other officials. The coordinator of the Justices of the Peace Reynaldo Morales said operations will continue in the 21 different sectors of the capital city in order to reduce the high rate of delinquencies that occur daily in our country. (TVN) [/QUOTE]IMHO, this isn't too much of a big deal. I'm hopeful the law will be overturned but short term things seem to be OK. The girls get to the Veneto and Habanos much earlier and I've heard a rumor that Le Palace is opening at 7pm instead of 9pm. Long term we'll have to see if it keeps girls away but right now there are more girls here than anytime I remember in the 7 years that I've lived here.

The worst part as far as the chicas are concerned are the raids. Be it for Alcohol or noise violations, if the Colombians are there at the time of the raids, they are going to be subject to questioning by the cops and possibley detention. Just the threat of a raid keeps most of the girls at home for the weekend. Also, as far as us tourists are concerned who in the hell wants to go there for vacation not drink when we want and then the clubs we are at be raided and possibley taken to jail for. Did I read that right " Disrespect to authorities". Come on.

I was detained once for 8 hours because I didn't have my passport on me when they raided Habanos, and the girl I was with spent 5 days in Jail while they sorted everything from the raid out.

They usually do these raids or pass these laws make a big deal about it in the beggining and then things lighten up but they are become more frequent and harsher each time.

Good job Panama way to take a great party place and turn it into a nighmare. DONE with it there.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1222156]The worst part as far as the chicas are concerned are the raids. Be it for Alcohol or noise violations, if the Colombians are there at the time of the raids, they are going to be subject to questioning by the cops and possibley detention. Just the threat of a raid keeps most of the girls at home for the weekend. Also, as far as us tourists are concerned who in the hell wants to go there for vacation not drink when we want and then the clubs we are at be raided and possibley taken to jail for. Did I read that right " Disrespect to authorities". Come on.

I was detained once for 8 hours because I didn't have my passport on me when they raided Habanos, and the girl I was with spent 5 days in Jail while they sorted everything from the raid out.

They usually do these raids or pass these laws make a big deal about it in the beggining and then things lighten up but they are become more frequent and harsher each time.

Good job Panama way to take a great party place and turn it into a nighmare. DONE with it there.[/QUOTE]As far as I know the people that were arrested weren't arrested merely for being in the place after it was supposed to be closed, they gave the police a hard time about having to leave. There hasn't been a chica raid since June to my knowledge and the places are overflowing with them. I live here so it's a little different and I can see where someone who is a tourist and has a choice of where to go may want to avoid PTY with this latest development. I have however found the new closing time to be an aid in negotiating TLN deals. I think there is a fair chance they may rescind this law down the line, they've passed quite a few things here without thinking them through and then put it back to normal later.

As for the passport checking hassle, I'm of a mixed mind, I got stuck once too for a few hours. It is pretty much common knowledge that you have to have your passport or accepted copy with you at all time, and the checkpoints and I'd checks keeps a fair amount of Colombian and foreign criminals away from Panama where they get hassled.

Seems the new search function (it's been awhile since I've visited.) is kicking my ass. Short question. Does the Marriott (next to the Casino Royale) still allow guests? They did last time I visited but recall reading something to the contrary. I'll stop by December 10. 12 on my way to Cali then again for a night on my return home.

Thanks.

/dddick

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1222141]IMHO, this isn't too much of a big deal. I'm hopeful the law will be overturned but short term things seem to be OK. The girls get to the Veneto and Habanos much earlier and I've heard a rumor that Le Palace is opening at 7pm instead of 9pm. Long term we'll have to see if it keeps girls away but right now there are more girls here than anytime I remember in the 7 years that I've lived here.[/QUOTE].

Thanks TBuss, I hope you are not just saying that cause you live there. Ha

[QUOTE=Dan D Dick; 1222955]Seems the new search function (it's been awhile since I've visited.) is kicking my ass. Short question. Does the Marriott (next to the Casino Royale) still allow guests? They did last time I visited but recall reading something to the contrary. I'll stop by December 10. 12 on my way to Cali then again for a night on my return home.

Thanks.

/dddick[/QUOTE]Back in August they didn't allow. Not sure now

[QUOTE=Snipps;1222988]Back in August they didn't allow. Not sure now[/QUOTE]Unless you check in initially with a guest, they will not allow guests up to the room.

Those that will:

Hotel Milan.

Vegas Suites.

Veneto

The official word on the Carrot Law is:

Sunday thru Wednesday. Alcohol sale is allowed from 9am to 2am at ALL VENUES.

Thursday thru Saturday. Alcohol sale is allowed from 9am to 3am at ALL VENUES.

All places who do not have the sale of alcohol as their main income source are allowed to remain open observing the no alcohol part. That is, restaurants, can open 24/7 without alcohol during the mentioned times.

This also applies to casinos and venues inside hotels, BUT, you can order alcohol via room service, as renting a room is representative of your own private house and you can do as you please inside.

Tbuss, I do also hope that this gets overturned, but since all this fuss has political implication, is very unlikely or very hard to foresee, as we have the president from one party, arm wrestling the mayor who is from another party.

I say political implications, because there was an alliance between the wining parties on the past election, and the president practically fired his vice president from the foreign affairs ministry, but he couldn't fire him as vicepresident because he was publicly elected and not designated by him. The vice president is from the Panamenista Party, as the mayor, so now the Winter Fortress for the Panamenista Party is the Mayor's office

So Since Habanos, A Che and Bodeguita all derive most of there profits from Alcohol do they all have to close at 3am.

Looks like the Veneto will be packed at 3am now.

Somehow down the road the laws will become more relaxed but my overall feeling is the next step is more raids and Veneto may be pressured also to stop allowing girls in. It happened for about 6 months a couple years ago. Chicas were banned.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1223423]So Since Habanos, A Che and Bodeguita all derive most of there profits from Alcohol do they all have to close at 3am.

Looks like the Veneto will be packed at 3am now.

Somehow down the road the laws will become more relaxed but my overall feeling is the next step is more raids and Veneto may be pressured also to stop allowing girls in. It happened for about 6 months a couple years ago. Chicas were banned.[/QUOTE]Veneto has to comply with the Carrot also, as it applies to casinos even if they are inside an hotel

Am I correct in understanding all this only applies to Panama City, not David etc?

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1223575]Veneto has to comply with the Carrot also, as it applies to casinos even if they are inside an hotel[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1223399]The official word on the Carrot Law is:

Sunday thru Wednesday. Alcohol sale is allowed from 9am to 2am at ALL VENUES.

Thursday thru Saturday. Alcohol sale is allowed from 9am to 3am at ALL VENUES.

All places who do not have the sale of alcohol as their main income source are allowed to remain open observing the no alcohol part. That is, restaurants, can open 24/7 without alcohol during the mentioned times.

This also applies to casinos and venues inside hotels, BUT, you can order alcohol via room service, as renting a room is representative of your own private house and you can do as you please inside.

Tbuss, I do also hope that this gets overturned, but since all this fuss has political implication, is very unlikely or very hard to foresee, as we have the president from one party, arm wrestling the mayor who is from another party.

I say political implications, because there was an alliance between the wining parties on the past election, and the president practically fired his vice president from the foreign affairs ministry, but he couldn't fire him as vicepresident because he was publicly elected and not designated by him. The vice president is from the Panamenista Party, as the mayor, so now the Winter Fortress for the Panamenista Party is the Mayor's office[/QUOTE]Agreed, hope they end it soon too. Another potential part of this on a political front is that the vice-presidents main business is liquor- Varela Bros, one has to wonder if this law is aimed at hurting him since the two are in a major quarrel.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1223423]So Since Habanos, A Che and Bodeguita all derive most of there profits from Alcohol do they all have to close at 3am.

Looks like the Veneto will be packed at 3am now.

Somehow down the road the laws will become more relaxed but my overall feeling is the next step is more raids and Veneto may be pressured also to stop allowing girls in. It happened for about 6 months a couple years ago. Chicas were banned.[/QUOTE]YES you are exactly right. I remember a couple of years ago chicas were banned from Veneto. It was depressing. I am very curious to see how Veneto will shape up with this law. Is there anyone currently at the veneto now? I would expect more raids. Think about it, can you imagine all the women that will show up at Veneto after 3am? Do you think Veneto will allow it? I don't think so because no alochol will be served. Veneto allow the chicas to come so us guys can buy drinks and the Veneto profits.

[QUOTE=Brother P;1223584]Am I correct in understanding all this only applies to Panama City, not David etc?[/QUOTE]David has this law in place since a long time ago

Snipps good point. Why would Veneto Allow the girls into the casino bar after 3am when the casino bar will be closed anyway. They are not going to allow them to wonder about without buying drinks or getting the guys in there to buy drinks. Someone will come up with a loop hole and will open something up somehow. Maybe Veneto will turn a conference room into a private room which can be rented out for $1. 00 and they will put a bar in there and allow chicas and hotel guests. According to the law you can drink in your rented hotel room and buy liquor from room service 24-7. Anyway, the law sucks. Panama is depressing. However. Even though I have been there many of times, does anyone know what the scene is like during a Sunday DAY TIME. I have a lay over for 8 hours in Panama Next Sunday and was wondering how Veneto is during the Day on Sunday. I know there is nothing at Habanos but I am wondering if anyone knows how Veneto is.

Thanks-

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1224779]I have a lay over for 8 hours in Panama Next Sunday and was wondering how Veneto is during the Day on Sunday. I know there is nothing at Habanos but I am wondering if anyone knows how Veneto is.

Thanks-[/QUOTE]The Veneto sucks during the day. You could try a massage parlor. Oasis is open although the time I went there on a Sunday the selection was pretty poor.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1222156]The worst part as far as the chicas are concerned are the raids. Be it for Alcohol or noise violations, if the Colombians are there at the time of the raids, they are going to be subject to questioning by the cops and possibley detention. Just the threat of a raid keeps most of the girls at home for the weekend. Also, as far as us tourists are concerned who in the hell wants to go there for vacation not drink when we want and then the clubs we are at be raided and possibley taken to jail for. Did I read that right " Disrespect to authorities". Come on.

I was detained once for 8 hours because I didn't have my passport on me when they raided Habanos, and the girl I was with spent 5 days in Jail while they sorted everything from the raid out.

They usually do these raids or pass these laws make a big deal about it in the beggining and then things lighten up but they are become more frequent and harsher each time.

Good job Panama way to take a great party place and turn it into a nighmare. DONE with it there.[/QUOTE]One Colombiana told me the police just want money, or sex from the girls. Still trying to apply on-line.

[QUOTE=TravelDude; 1223295]Unless you check in initially with a guest, they will not allow guests up to the room.

Those that will:

Hotel Milan.

Vegas Suites.

Veneto[/QUOTE]About Vegas Suites. I was in Panama City in late September with a buddy. Online they say their rates is $80 / night. We tried asking about the corporate rates that people here mentioned here. No corporate rates. I ended up staying at Torres Blanca for $60-65 / night. My buddy was staying a week so when he got there, he asked them for cheaper rates. They agreed to $60 / night! The first couple of nights when he brought chicas back, they would charge him $20. After a couple of nights, he got fed up with this and complained to the manager. They tell him he could register as 2 and pay $65 / night for the room (how does that make any sense?) and no guest fees.

[QUOTE=Tbuss; 1222472]As far as I know the people that were arrested weren't arrested merely for being in the place after it was supposed to be closed, they gave the police a hard time about having to leave. There hasn't been a chica raid since June to my knowledge and the places are overflowing with them. I live here so it's a little different and I can see where someone who is a tourist and has a choice of where to go may want to avoid PTY with this latest development. I have however found the new closing time to be an aid in negotiating TLN deals. I think there is a fair chance they may rescind this law down the line, they've passed quite a few things here without thinking them through and then put it back to normal later.

As for the passport checking hassle, I'm of a mixed mind, I got stuck once too for a few hours. It is pretty much common knowledge that you have to have your passport or accepted copy with you at all time, and the checkpoints and I'd checks keeps a fair amount of Colombian and foreign criminals away from Panama where they get hassled.[/QUOTE]As for raids, I think there was another one in late September while I was there. On Thursday, Habanos had tons of hot chicas! Friday and Saturday which I thought would be the best nights as totally dead. I asked one of the chicas I saw on Thursday, where all the chicas went. She said there were raids and all the chicas decided to stay home. I don't know if it was just a threat or an actual raid. But no chicas.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1228067]As for raids, I think there was another one in late September while I was there. On Thursday, Habanos had tons of hot chicas! Friday and Saturday which I thought would be the best nights as totally dead. I asked one of the chicas I saw on Thursday, where all the chicas went. She said there were raids and all the chicas decided to stay home. I don't know if it was just a threat or an actual raid. But no chicas.[/QUOTE]It may have been a threat of a raid but to my knowledge there weren't any raids in September or even since June. Fri and Sat are typically the worst nights of the week. Many of the girls go out socially that night with their friends. For Habanos and Veneto the best nights are Wed and Thurs.

Because I believe these boards are about giving info as much as taking it, here, in my very first post on this site, is my trip report. Was in PC in early September, so not sure how the recent raids affecting the following places.

Club Capri, formerly known as Club Fenix. $3 entry.

This place is in part of the city called Rio Abajo. $3 cover large place with stage and all chicas in white bikinis. Mostly Colombians and a couple of Dominicans. $20 for 15 minutes. Some pretty nice looking women, and place is clean and well-run.

Gruto Azul.

Also in Rio Abajo. $3 cover also, more of a classic dive bar, with fake palms tree decorations and small stage and bar stools. Certainly not as polished as Capri. Same price structure. All Colombians, a couple of slender beauties.

La Bocatorena and La Major.

Right at entrance to Casco Antiguo, on El Alfaro. These are literally right next door to each other. Bocatorena is very dark, lots of chicas, and rooms in back are pretty grotty, floors wet smell of bleach. You don't want to step on them with bare feet. Chicas mostly Colombian, some decent, some frightening. Hooked up with one spinner, Colombian from Medellin, looked like the Spanish attorney from Law and Order. GORGEOUS, but nobody was paying her attention because she was covered up in jeans, boots, and a chunky white sweater. She had big, natural tits, though wanted extra for me to see them. I should have taken her number, especially since she was only going to be in PC for another month. La Major charges $3 cover and is much brighter, meaning you can see the chicas. All Colombian as far as I could tell, a couple of lookers. Both places are $15 for 15 minutes. La Major is much cleaner than Bocatorena.

Three places in El Dorado. Caribbean Center was a sorry place. Three extremely bored looking women, pretty plain. Didn't sample. Club Miami was also dead early on. 9pm when I was there. Gold Fingers, not much going on there. These are all around the El Rey supermarket in El Dorado. If you are looking at the supermarket, Gold Fingers and Caribbean Center are the right of it, Club Miami behind it. Across the main road, from these, in a plaza with a White Castle (or some chicken joint) in it, I think is Golden Time. Lots of women, mostly skinny young Colombians with fake boobs and bored expressions, but if you like that kind of thing, this is the place. Again, I didn't sample, but I think house price is about $90 for the hour.

On Via Veneto there's a good special at Oasis, $50 for half an hour. There were a few Colombian girls when I went, all with fake boobs. One was pretty and had a great smile, and was enjoyable company.

Cristal Moon is a strip club near a big intersection called Cinco de Mayo. Was dead when I went because all the girls had some fever, but the guy at the door told me prices were negotiable.

In another part of town, San Miguelito, is Los Bomboneros. Large place with big selection of girls, mostly Colombian, a few Dominicans. Prices are $15 for 15 minutes, there is a $3 cover. Some pretty ladies there. Across the road is a place called Caracolo, or something like that, but I was too tired to go in.

Taxis are plentiful and cheap. Rides to any of these places shouldn't cost more than $3, $5 if you're getting ripped off. Anything higher, and they are laughing at your expense. Speaking Spanish makes a huge difference, especially with the cabbies.

Hope this post helps. Enjoy and happy hunting.

2 Questions please:

1. Is Le Palace still open, and are the chicas as hot as ever?

2. Is Hotel Veneto still girl-friendly?

[QUOTE=Johnnydh; 1228926]2 Questions please:

1. Is Le Palace still open, and are the chicas as hot as ever?

2. Is Hotel Veneto still girl-friendly?[/QUOTE]Yes and Yes to question 1.

Yes to question 2

[QUOTE=Crens; 1228477]Because I believe these boards are about giving info as much as taking it, here, in my very first post on this site, is my trip report. Was in PC in early September, so not sure how the recent raids affecting the following places.

Club Capri, formerly known as Club Fenix. $3 entry.

This place is in part of the city called Rio Abajo. $3 cover large place with stage and all chicas in white bikinis. Mostly Colombians and a couple of Dominicans. $20 for 15 minutes. Some pretty nice looking women, and place is clean and well-run.

Gruto Azul.

Also in Rio Abajo. $3 cover also, more of a classic dive bar, with fake palms tree decorations and small stage and bar stools. Certainly not as polished as Capri. Same price structure. All Colombians, a couple of slender beauties.

La Bocatorena and La Major.

Right at entrance to Casco Antiguo, on El Alfaro. These are literally right next door to each other. Bocatorena is very dark, lots of chicas, and rooms in back are pretty grotty, floors wet smell of bleach. You don't want to step on them with bare feet. Chicas mostly Colombian, some decent, some frightening. Hooked up with one spinner, Colombian from Medellin, looked like the Spanish attorney from Law and Order. GORGEOUS, but nobody was paying her attention because she was covered up in jeans, boots, and a chunky white sweater. She had big, natural tits, though wanted extra for me to see them. I should have taken her number, especially since she was only going to be in PC for another month. La Major charges $3 cover and is much brighter, meaning you can see the chicas. All Colombian as far as I could tell, a couple of lookers. Both places are $15 for 15 minutes. La Major is much cleaner than Bocatorena.

Three places in El Dorado. Caribbean Center was a sorry place. Three extremely bored looking women, pretty plain. Didn't sample. Club Miami was also dead early on. 9pm when I was there. Gold Fingers, not much going on there. These are all around the El Rey supermarket in El Dorado. If you are looking at the supermarket, Gold Fingers and Caribbean Center are the right of it, Club Miami behind it. Across the main road, from these, in a plaza with a White Castle (or some chicken joint) in it, I think is Golden Time. Lots of women, mostly skinny young Colombians with fake boobs and bored expressions, but if you like that kind of thing, this is the place. Again, I didn't sample, but I think house price is about $90 for the hour.

On Via Veneto there's a good special at Oasis, $50 for half an hour. There were a few Colombian girls when I went, all with fake boobs. One was pretty and had a great smile, and was enjoyable company.

Cristal Moon is a strip club near a big intersection called Cinco de Mayo. Was dead when I went because all the girls had some fever, but the guy at the door told me prices were negotiable.

In another part of town, San Miguelito, is Los Bomboneros. Large place with big selection of girls, mostly Colombian, a few Dominicans. Prices are $15 for 15 minutes, there is a $3 cover. Some pretty ladies there. Across the road is a place called Caracolo, or something like that, but I was too tired to go in.

Taxis are plentiful and cheap. Rides to any of these places shouldn't cost more than $3, $5 if you're getting ripped off. Anything higher, and they are laughing at your expense. Speaking Spanish makes a huge difference, especially with the cabbies.

Hope this post helps. Enjoy and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]GREAT report how did you find anything in San Miguelito I can never make it out of Boca Torena.

I stayed at Veneto in November. When I walked past the Hotel Milan, I noticed that an addition is being built. Work starts early and if you expect to sleep after 7am you might look elsewhere.

I have stayed at Milan in the past and I needed to register as Mr. And Mrs.

They didn't seem to mind that there was a different Mrs. Every twelve hours or so.

Does anyone have any current updates of Veneto, Panama city with the new Carrot Law in effect? Would be great to hear!

I'm with Snipps. Any update. Someone please report on the scene. Although over the holidays may not give a true account but some info about how the new law is effecting Veneto Habanas the chica scene would be appreciated.

I was there last week in November and first week in December.

No real change anywhere but several girls told me that they were starting earlier than before.

I generally hit the clubs or casino at 10pm-1am or so, found what I was looking for and went back to hotel.

I don't see how this will effect you unless you still want to be out drinking at 5am.

Does the Veneto Bar and Habanos close at 3am now or do they stay open but just stop selling alcohol.

Yes I like to stay out till 5am sometimes so, its nice to know there will still be ladies at Veneto or Ache if I need them to be after 3am.

Also just very curious. As I have witnessed the rise and now somewhat fall of Mongering in Panama.

[QUOTE=Vielendank;1232708]That's pretty funny. I don't want to take the chance on that though. I was also checking into the Veneto and all the websites that I saw were quoting $135. 00 a night for the cheapest room rate. I called them and asked the girl on the phone what their cheapest room rate was and she said $89. 00 for a double plus 11% tax which would be right around $100. 00 a night. Not sure what kind of rates you all are getting but it' seems that at this hotel, if you call, they will give you a better rate. The dates I asked about were February 9th through the 12th.[/QUOTE]Most any country will give you non tourist rates if you call a property. It's hit and miss. I always call and usually get a better rate, specially if they feel that I am a local.

[QUOTE=Vielendank;1231875]Hey guys, been a couple years since I have been in Panama City and can't remember if the Courtyard Marriott is walking distance to the Veneto or Habanos or anything worthwhile walking too. Last time I went I stayed at the Marriott right across the street from Habanos but I hear it's not girl-friendly anymore. Anyone know? Also, what's the going rate for girls now for an hour or two back at the hotel? Appreciate the information.[/QUOTE]There are 2 courtyards and none of them are walking distance from the action.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1235654]Does the Veneto Bar and Habanos close at 3am now or do they stay open but just stop selling alcohol.

Yes I like to stay out till 5am sometimes so, its nice to know there will still be ladies at Veneto or Ache if I need them to be after 3am.

Also just very curious. As I have witnessed the rise and now somewhat fall of Mongering in Panama.[/QUOTE]YES, I agree, I would love to hear how these places are doing and how the Veneto bar is. If they stop serving alcohol, etc. Thinking about going for a quick weekend, but just nervous about it because of these changes.

I visited Panama City last week.

For the ones who are too lazy to read all forum pages:

Hotels: Vegas Suites ($80) or Veneto ($100). No problem to bring guests along.

Bars to meet girls:

Habanos (on the other side of the Marriott Hotel). A must see in town. Good place / terrace to have a drink in the evening, watch and talk to the girls.

Achee (Calle Uruguay). Disco & Bar. I liked it most as you can drink and dance with the girls, but go there after midnight.

Veneto Bar in the Veneto Casino. Interesting concept of gambling and girls looking for clients. The bar area is a little bit small.

I always paid $100 for my adventures, Spanish is necessary.

Enjoy your visit

For the interested, tonight at 10:00 o'clock in Habano's I counted more than 20 unemployed looking for temporary work. More than half of them I would happily have provided employment, the others I am sure could have satisfied somebody else requirements.

As tomorrow is a work day for this old man, I cannot report what happened later on.

Enjoy.

Mellow

Snipes do you think anyone will answer us about the effects the carrot law is having. I guess we will keep waiting patiently.

I'm arriving Sunday afternoon, staying at Veneto for ten days.

Please await my reports as to what happens after 3am.

[QUOTE=Vielendank;1238245]Hey guys, I gave this girls contact information to one person and for some reason they thought it was a good idea to send her an email and tell her the 20 different things that they were going to do to her. Obviously, this chivalry didn't go over well and now she's not wanting me to give her information to anyone else. I will talk to her the next couple days and see if she changes her mind. It might be a good idea that if someone gives you contact information that we remember that we should act like we have some damn sense and that your / our actions are a reflection on the person that gave you / me that information. If you sent me a PM just hang in there until I see if she's interested in talking to anyone. If so, I'll send her information to you. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Suggestion, find out who it was, post the email message content here and his forum name (only) so others can be warn not to share contact info. People like that ruin it for the rest of us. Planning a trip to Panama soon, hopefully the young lady would want to try with another friend then.

[QUOTE=Vielendank; 1238028]This girl will meet you for $75. 00 for an hour, $130. 00 all night, or $300. 00 for the week. She will also do anal but for $50. 00 more. Everything has to be done with a condom. If you need contact information let me know by PM.[/QUOTE]Does she speak english? Thanks

Is this the same girl? Does she speak english? Thanks.

[url]http://www.maxim.co.uk/girls/new-girls/18859/brianna_frost.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Vielendank;1238028]This girl will meet you for $75. 00 for an hour, $130. 00 all night, or $300. 00 for the week. She will also do anal but for $50. 00 more. Everything has to be done with a condom. If you need contact information let me know by PM.[/QUOTE]This girl is brianna frost. She probably makes $300, 000 a year just doing live cam webshows. You are saying she will do anal with you for $50?

[QUOTE=Seismo; 1238106]I'm arriving Sunday afternoon, staying at Veneto for ten days.

Please await my reports as to what happens after 3am.[/QUOTE]Thanks Seismo!

I keep asking one of my old chicas from down there and she keeps telling me." Come down no problem baby. We have fun. Just come down". Some how I don't think she is really going to tell me the truth.

OK, need some advise, please, from my fellow punters if anyone has some insight into the minds of Columbianas "working" in PC.

Here's the back story: I've been to Panama twice in the last year or so, and spent a lot of time playing, from the 'high end' at places like Habanos to the "lows" of Casco Viejo. (thank you ISG and Jackson!) On the last visit, one of my favorites turned out to be a 40+ year old MILF out of, all places, La Boca Torena. Now I know what you're thinking, a seedy dive-bar like that? But I swear to God this woman could pass for 28 with a great body and complexion to match. Times are desperate in Columbia.

I don't usually dig the cougar action, but the full-on GFE, no 'wholes' barred experience this chica provided just, frankly, rocked my world. On top of that, she's quite intelligent and fun to be with. I only had the time to take her to a no-tel for a couple of long sessions, but they were both memorable. As many of you can probably attest, rarely is the second go-around as good as we remember the first to be. The lady in question asked for my e-mail address and we have kept in very casual touch, just exchanging the occasional pleasantry. When I informed her I was coming back soon to PC, she indicated she would like to see me. During our conversation I asked if she was still single. The response was, 'no esposo, pero, si, un novio. '

I have suggested lunch together where I plan to find out if a little nooner-action is available or not. I figure investing only an hour or two of my precious mongering time, and the price of a lunch to find out, will be worth the attempt.

So here's the question for the forum: Will a former Columbian working girl in Panama City still take the opportunity to make some extra 'side money'? Some how she managed to stay on in PC on a 'permanent' basis (I thought the maximum visa stay for Columbians was 6 months?) and she's currently working at an entry level office job. I'm betting the pay is fairly low.

Anyone have experience with 'retired' chicas in PC under similar circumstances?

There will be a full report on this and other activities upon my return.

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1238689]During our conversation I asked if she was still single. The response was, 'no esposo, pero, si, un novio. '

[/QUOTE]Since you are good buddies, why don't you just ask point blank about nooner action before you take her to lunch?

I think all the stars are aligned in your favor. Hey, if you got along so good in the past, maybe in her mind you are the novio. Just charm the pants off her when you meet her for a second time.

[QUOTE=Vielendank;1238504]Pretty sure it's not the same girl and I say that because I also have the "classic" mirror shot of her in her bathroom and it's not the same body or girl. I'm attaching the other pictures and it is definitely not Brianna Frost. But you can and the others can be the judge.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.sexoatugusto.com/nuevas-fotos-de-brianna/#more-1061[/url]

[QUOTE=Vielendank;1238028]This girl will meet you for $75. 00 for an hour, $130. 00 all night, or $300. 00 for the week. She will also do anal but for $50. 00 more. Everything has to be done with a condom. If you need contact information let me know by PM.[/QUOTE]That is one amazing looking chica. I can't believe those rates she could charge a lot more down here. I wish I had seen this earlier, I leave Panama in 5 hours and would've loved to meet her.

[QUOTE=Vielendank; 1238745]That's her for sure. What do you know about her other then the ad? Have you used her before?

Just trying to determine if she is worth the time.[/QUOTE]I am really confused by what's going on. If I am understanding correctly, some girl in Panama is sending you pictures of Brianna Frost. You have never met this person before but you are recommending her to members on this forum?

Is that correct? Because it sure sounds shady. You should not meet this person. What's the point of meeting someone sending you fake pics? I know working girls do it all the time, but it sounds like your time would be much better spent going to Habanos / Veneto's. Also please don't recommend girls to the forum that you haven't met.

[QUOTE=Seismo; 1238106]I'm arriving Sunday afternoon, staying at Veneto for ten days.

Please await my reports as to what happens after 3am.[/QUOTE]Thank you, loooking forward to your reportrs. Mfins, looks like we found someone that will let us know what is going on.

[QUOTE=Vielendank; 1238745]That's her for sure. What do you know about her other then the ad? Have you used her before?

Just trying to determine if she is worth the time.[/QUOTE]I know nothing of her, I just did a reverse image search and saw the other pics.

All the evidence suggests to me that your acquaintance is almost certainly an imposter.

Those are some great photos. Beautiful girl big rack, nice smile. I will let you know if anything happens.

Thanks

Habanos last call is 2AM, everything is closed by 2:30am during the week.

There seems to be less chicas everywhere since my last visit in November 2011.

Yesterday at noon there were about ten chicas in the Casino Veneto in the bar area eating that crappy $5. 99 lunch buffet and waiting for customers, so things are starting earlier.

I was told by several of the girls that very few new ones have been coming in from Columbia since the closing times have changed.

Clearly if you are one of those guys that likes to stay out drinking until 6am, I would suggest looking elsewhere.

Seismo, Thanks for the update. From one of the best mongering spots in the world and now going down hill over the last few years. Its sad.

Habanos last year did a whole renovation and changed to staying open 24-7. I feel bad for the owner who sunk the money in as he is losing out on precious hours of business.

Seismo, If you can see what the Veneto is like late night. I am assuming the bar closes at 2:00 am but, do the girls still hang out after 2am. Or does it become a ghost town.

I guess it would be possible to buy a bottle at 2am and a mixer if one wanted to continue partying but if everything shuts down and isn't even open whats the point.

Does A che also close at last call. They were the place to go between 2am-6am. They also must be hurting.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1241118]Seismo, Thanks for the update. From one of the best mongering spots in the world and now going down hill over the last few years. Its sad.

Habanos last year did a whole renovation and changed to staying open 24-7. I feel bad for the owner who sunk the money in as he is losing out on precious hours of business.

Seismo, If you can see what the Veneto is like late night. I am assuming the bar closes at 2:00 am but, do the girls still hang out after 2am. Or does it become a ghost town.

I guess it would be possible to buy a bottle at 2am and a mixer if one wanted to continue partying but if everything shuts down and isn't even open whats the point.

Does A che also close at last call. They were the place to go between 2am-6am. They also must be hurting.[/QUOTE]Seismo, thanks for this update, helps alot. I would be curious to know how veneto is after 2am. How many women do you see at the veneto at say 8pm? Probably not a whole lot. Damn what happend this place, use to be awesome. SAD

[QUOTE=Vielendank;1239234]I confronted her about both pictures and she admitted that they are not her but she picked them because they resemble her. She also said that she is living in David but will come to Panama City to meet anyone interested. She didn't want to post her real pictures because she's from a small town and doesn't want anyone to know what she does. Understandable. Her friend lives close to the Veneto so she stays with her when she goes to PC. I asked her to send me "real" pictures of her and she sent me 4 of them. This time, to verify it was her, I asked her if she had a webcam so I could see her and verify that is her in the pictures so she turned her cam on and it is her on the new pictures. She's still pretty hot and does look alot like the pictures she posted. She told me that if I wanted her to come to Panama City to meet me that she would prefer that I get her a bus ticket which is $40. 00 roundtrip. Still not bad considering her rates and that she is a very good looking woman. Again, it could all still be bullshit but I'll verify that in February when I go down there. At the risk of upsetting people that can't think for themselves I won't post any pictures or contact information for her until I meet her in person.[/QUOTE]Yes I was watching out for you bro and the thread. You can think whatever you want about my intentions. When a supermodel type girl wants to do anal for $50 and spend a week with you for $300, I really really am concerned about your safety and others on here. Just the debate this issue has brought up is good enough for me.

As for your sarcasm regarding me helping you out with future mongering, its actually much closer to the truth. I have lived in Panama City for years, so surely my experiences would be helpful.

I left the poker room at 2:15 am and walked out into the casino. Bar had stopped serving, people were finishing up last drinks.

By 2:30 the bar area had emptied out except for a few chicas sitting around the tables. Another dozen or so were hanging around the slots. Most were chewing gum and staring at their cellphones while they wondered why no one selected them.

My prediction is that this nonsense will end as soon as the first quarter sales tax reports are calculated and analyzed.

Have the new times had any impact on the prices (higher, lower or no change)? Thanks, P II

[QUOTE=Seismo; 1241583]I left the poker room at 2:15 am and walked out into the casino. Bar had stopped serving, people were finishing up last drinks.

By 2:30 the bar area had emptied out except for a few chicas sitting around the tables. Another dozen or so were hanging around the slots. Most were chewing gum and staring at their cellphones while they wondered why no one selected them.

My prediction is that this nonsense will end as soon as the first quarter sales tax reports are calculated and analyzed.[/QUOTE]Thanks, and I would guess its always the same chicas standing around everynight correct? This has been helpful, keep them coming!

[QUOTE=Snipps;1241642]Thanks, and I would guess its always the same chicas standing around everynight correct? This has been helpful, keep them coming![/QUOTE]I'm hopeful it ends soon too. There is a good shot it will shortly be 24 hrs again for hotel and casinos as the Mayor who instigated the change in laws to those venues was recently replaced. The other law that closes bars and nightclubs early is a little more politically complicated and may stay around longer.

Actually if the over turn the part of the law that effects Hotels and Casinos and they allow 24 hour drinking again that may be a blessing in disguise as it will concentrate every available chica in Panama at the Veneto Bar. Every girl after closing at A che and Habanos would all flock to Veneto.

Although it is strange a lot of chicas who hang out at Habanos won't go to Veneto and vice versa. Its almost like they have territories.

Don't know if anyone is still curious about the affects of the new law on 'business', but I just returned from an evening of scouting at Club Habanos and El Veneto. I spoke with several chicas, both Columbian and Panamanian, as well as some waiters and taxi drivers. All complained bitterly about the impact on their business and comfirmed EVERY bar must now close at 2 AM. Perhaps it was because it was a Monday night, but Habanos only had about 20-25 chicas between 10 PM and midnite. No 10's and only a couple of 9's. It may not be fair for me to say this but I've been to this famous 'freelancers' bar several times, most recently last May, and it appears the quality is definitely declining. But again, I'm hoping it was just because of the 'Monday Blues'.

El Veneto was packed with chicas of widely varying quality, with relatively few hombres. But the wait staff confirmed most ladies don't hang around after the bars close at 2AM. When I asked where they might go and congregate after that, one mesero just said, 'la casa! '. Bad news for those of us who like to prowl late into the nite.

I did hear La Boca Torena in Casco Viejo now opens at noon and stays open until the new 'witching hour.' No longer the 24 hours a day joint it was once so renowned for. I personally would not recommend any late nite forays here unless you ride with your posse or have twisted blue steel for cajones. During the day is OK, however.

I did have a try at a new place (for me) called El Capri on Rio Abajo. $41 for 15 min, and the place is much cleaner and newer than Gruta Azul or La Gloria with more and younger chicas. Don't believe I've seen it reviewed here, at least recently, and it's worth a try for the more economically minded monger. BTW, don't think the new law is causing prices to drop. If anything, it's now more of a seller's market than anything, or at least the ladies see it that way. I was quoted some really ridiculous prices everywhere and there was damn little room for negotiation.

Sorry to be the bearer of fairly grim tidings, but it's the new reality. Our kind of fun can still be had, of course, and there will be more reports later as I hop all over the country for the next few days.

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1243080]Don't know if anyone is still curious about the affects of the new law on 'business', but I just returned from an evening of scouting at Club Habanos and El Veneto. I spoke with several chicas, both Columbian and Panamanian, as well as some waiters and taxi drivers. All complained bitterly about the impact on their business and comfirmed EVERY bar must now close at 2 AM. Perhaps it was because it was a Monday night, but Habanos only had about 20-25 chicas between 10 PM and midnite. No 10's and only a couple of 9's. It may not be fair for me to say this but I've been to this famous 'freelancers' bar several times, most recently last May, and it appears the quality is definitely declining. But again, I'm hoping it was just because of the 'Monday Blues'.

El Veneto was packed with chicas of widely varying quality, with relatively few hombres. But the wait staff confirmed most ladies don't hang around after the bars close at 2AM. When I asked where they might go and congregate after that, one mesero just said, 'la casa! '. Bad news for those of us who like to prowl late into the nite.

I did hear La Boca Torena in Casco Viejo now opens at noon and stays open until the new 'witching hour. ' No longer the 24 hours a day joint it was once so renowned for. I personally would not recommend any late nite forays here unless you ride with your posse or have twisted blue steel for cajones. During the day is OK, however.

I did have a try at a new place (for me) called El Capri on Rio Abajo. $41 for 15 min, and the place is much cleaner and newer than Gruta Azul or La Gloria with more and younger chicas. Don't believe I've seen it reviewed here, at least recently, and it's worth a try for the more economically minded monger. BTW, don't think the new law is causing prices to drop. If anything, it's now more of a seller's market than anything, or at least the ladies see it that way. I was quoted some really ridiculous prices everywhere and there was damn little room for negotiation.

Sorry to be the bearer of fairly grim tidings, but it's the new reality. Our kind of fun can still be had, of course, and there will be more reports later as I hop all over the country for the next few days.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the review. How much where the chicas asking for at the veneto? When I was there it was roughly 80-150 and hour

[QUOTE=Snipps;1243364]Appreciate the review. How much where the chicas asking for at the veneto? When I was there it was roughly 80-150 and hour[/QUOTE]Best pricing for about an "8" was 100 / hr, with 300 for TLN. Lower was probably possible but I didn't press REAL hard as too much heavy bargaining tends to be a mood killer for me.

BTW, I think someone said they believed the chicas at Habanos don't go to El Veneto and vice versa-something about being 'territorial'; didn't seem that way to me as I saw at least a half dozen of the same putas at BOTH venues last night.

Does anyone know whether the Doubletree is chica friendly? I will be staying there free on my HHonors points, and the location looks good, close to Venetos or Habanos, but I can't find any info on visitors. Hoping they are not real strict if I bring in a decent-dressed chica.

If the answer is no, can anyone recommend a short term place to bring a chica nearby that is clean and reasonably priced?

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1243392]Best pricing for about an "8" was 100 / hr, with 300 for TLN. Lower was probably possible but I didn't press REAL hard as too much heavy bargaining tends to be a mood killer for me.

BTW, I think someone said they believed the chicas at Habanos don't go to El Veneto and vice versa-something about being 'territorial'; didn't seem that way to me as I saw at least a half dozen of the same putas at BOTH venues last night.[/QUOTE]A few years ago the territorial thing was more prevelant. The veneto putas looked down at the Habanos putas. The Veneto girls wanted $150 where the Habanos girls wanted $100. Your right though, more recently there is not as much territorial rights going on.

Just got in. Las Vegas Suites policy "Extra Person charge $25. 00 per night." Different from my last visit. Rooms 60 / night on internet.

Hard to get by security with 2 girls.

I'll have to try another place.

Veneto seemed quite active last night, even for a while after alcohol cutoff.

[QUOTE=Freedom Fighter; 1246293]Just got in. Las Vegas Suites policy "Extra Person charge $25. 00 per night." Different from my last visit. Rooms 60 / night on internet.

Hard to get by security with 2 girls.

I'll have to try another place.

Veneto seemed quite active last night, even for a while after alcohol cutoff.[/QUOTE]Have a blast, keep us posted on Veneto and the carrot law etc.

Does anyone have experiance going to Panama city during Carnivale? I think it begins next weekend. Curious how the action will be.

[QUOTE=Camposino; 1243681]Does anyone know whether the Doubletree is chica friendly? I will be staying there free on my HHonors points, and the location looks good, close to Venetos or Habanos, but I can't find any info on visitors. Hoping they are not real strict if I bring in a decent-dressed chica.

If the answer is no, can anyone recommend a short term place to bring a chica nearby that is clean and reasonably priced?[/QUOTE]Sure, I have brought back a few chicas to the California Hotel, not far from el congrejo, without any problem. $45 per night, also has wi-fi.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1246334]Does anyone have experiance going to Panama city during Carnivale? I think it begins next weekend. Curious how the action will be.[/QUOTE]Snipps don't go. Couple days during the week the streets in Panama are slammed with parades et. Then later in the week and weekend especially everything closes and the locals all go to the beaches or further into Panama and party. No alcohol for that weekend too. Fun time if your college age and want to drink dance sweat and act nuts but, definately not a good mongering weekend.

my first time mongering in pc, so have to post up my thoughts.

first popped in to le palace but it seemed a bit like a restaurant and being on my own didn't really get the vibe so left. perhaps with a colleague or client you can have a good time there, maybe next time ill try again.

i went off to elite, not always reported here, but a classy place.

as you enter you will undoubtably see other gringos, its a popular place. it appears like a us / uk strip club from the outside and you pay your $25 dollars entry fee as the doormen look on. this fee allows you drink an open bar which is pretty reasonable for the place if you like to drink.

only when you get in you know you're in a latin strip club, ladies immediatley friendly calling you over "venga papito" etc and theres lots of chicas perhaps 25-30. its a disco type club with on stage stripping, nice atmosphere i liked it straight away.

you won't even get your drink delivered before you're approached by a chica. they are very friendly and will sit in your lap. my first chick to approach was a 19 year old slim caleña, who although not my type to take back to the hotel, was sexy enough to agree a lap dance in the main room, cost $12

basically there are more comfortable seats away from the stage and there they will do you a lap dance. don't agree to the private dance unless you've seen a few girls and really want to spend the money, they will charge you $40 and you get a bit more but really the $12 dance in the main room is pretty good, you get to feel them up and kiss and they hang around for a while afterwards basically continuing the dance while they try to dry hump you into paying for another dance, a chica drink or a takeout.

its a good strategy probably works for them sometimes and you get some free dry sex while you are figuring out your options. so enjoy the inbetweeners while you check out the other talent.

i told this chica who was starting to get clingy to find me a panama girl with darker skin. she came back with a girl from ecuador, negra, thin with a hot ass and pretty sexy. i sat her on my lap immedietaly. however she had been there for 2 days and still had no clue, and obviously no customers. when i requested my $12 all singing and touching lap dance, she refused replying it was too cheap even though i reminded her that the previous girl had done just that. faced with this cute but not very astute in the ways of earning money in this club girl, i sent her away to "check" with the other girl whilst i went down to catch the stage show.

well shakira was getting her tits and pussy out on the stage but as i attempted to get a drink from my lazy bartender, a panama girl jumped into my lap sitting on my cock and moving her hands around. well i thought this was kinda nice, she was quite cute, nice low cut top showing her ample tits, bit young with braces but worth a $12 lap dance and feel of her tits and ass. when she also toed the line that $12 was too cheap and i almost threw her out of the club to get a job somewhere else, her final offer was to buy a chica drink at $16 (presumably plus $12 lap dance fee) and she would dance for me in the main room, even though a private dance was $38 with tit licking and pussy touching all thrown in.

needless to say i told her to get fucked in spanish, but as far as i know she didn't. silly cow know whos the boss, the customer.

anyway as i was in front of the stage and looking around for another drink a young thin panamanian girl came over, very cute face, lovely body, very friendly and the kind of girl who would be somebodys young [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] daughter in panama that you would like to fuck but couldn't without losing your legs.

and here she was without the father, i was in heaven for the next hour. don't ask me her name, who gives a fuck go and find a girl you like and find out her name if thats whats important.

she did me the $12 dance and than hung around continuing the dance without any intention of leaving to find more customers. how different from the western strip clubs. basically she was now my plaything, limits only according to my wallet.

probably half an hour went buy and i offered to buy her a chica drink, not that she asked, and this paid for her permanent presence as she continued to dry fuck me and let me play with her tits and ass as much and as long as i liked. what a club!

i could take no more of this perhaps half an hour later telling her that i had to get back to the hotel for my flight in the morning (partially true) and if the takeout and sex fee had not been so high (they ask for $300 dollars plus $160 takeout fee, although you can negotiate its still ridiculous i could have 3 top class girls for several hours in colombia for the same price) then for sure i would her taken her to the hotel and fucked her until she could not walk for days, sometimes its good to think with your head and not your head.

top girl must try and get her phone number for future trips. although the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] story has a moral to it. still fuck it, you only live once.

when i was leaving could not pass up the opportunity to a private dance with a dominicana who let me stick my fingers in her pussy, lick her tits and offered me $2 hours sex for $200 with bbbj, daty, gfe etc in my hotel but unfortunately with the aforementioned takeout fee, i hesitantly declined noting that i need to get over to jamaica at some point to fuck many black chicks.

in summary elite is a fantastic place to hang out with sexy girls, get dry sex, feel up some tits for $12, lick some tits and feel up some pussy for bit more dollar and have some great fun without doing the deed which is too expensive. maybe if you can get a phone number for the next day that would be recommended. just go there if in pc.

after that i stopped into some caribbean massage place, shit with young but for me unattractive girls.

so i ended up at golden time (taxi driver informed me miami was no shit and gt was the place)

i now know that was bullshit.

its a nice setup, nice girls i chose a hot titty lovers babe from medellin spectacular body great fucking her but here's the catch.

from the 45 minutes you pay for, now $116, apparently only 10 min of that is sex time. after a mediocre massage, and some breathtakingly short oral with condom, she mounted me. when i decided to change position, she went into reverse cowgirl which is not my style, or anybodys apart from pornstars in my opinion. after 5 min of this bullshit i wanted to get on top but she informed me that the time was up. i reminded her i paid for 45minutes and we had only being fucking for 10min, maximum. she replied that this does not mean 45min sex time and then the penny dropped. she was now unresponsive and was pulling away from me when i wanted to come inside her, expeting she might give me at least 5min more time, no. finally as i went to come i held her arms down as the ***** was not going to let me come inside her pulling away from me, and she was pissed off.

incredibly after i got off her, face screwed up with plain anger, she asked me if i wanted a massage, presumably to pass the time and to avoid the management from finding out that the customer left early. as my spanish is good i gave her a mouthfull for her bad attitude, not letting a customer cum inside when sex was agreed and paid for. she shot back some bullshit but i left and made my complaint downstairs before heading back to the hotel. total pro, total *****, total waste of time and money.

summary: be advised that you won't get the service you pay for in this place, this has been remarked upon by other visitors and i suggest you read other reports and think where you want to spend your dollars before going there. the moneys upfront and the girls then have no reason to please you other than their idea of service. not recommended.

well its a long one, but hopefully my report assists some mongerings going to panama, i plan to checkout other clubs on the avenida uruguay next and hopefully will find some quality pussy.

look foward to reports by others on this forum.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1246415]Snipps don't go. Couple days during the week the streets in Panama are slammed with parades et. Then later in the week and weekend especially everything closes and the locals all go to the beaches or further into Panama and party. No alcohol for that weekend too. Fun time if your college age and want to drink dance sweat and act nuts but, definately not a good mongering weekend.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the feedback. Just thinking when to go? Do you know if March is a good time? I think its still warm in March. Been there about 5 times but always went during Jan-Feb. Also considering last weekend of Feb. Hmm

[QUOTE=Vielendank;1247749]I just got home from PC and was at the Veneto. Contrary to what many have written on here, the girls were willing to be with me for $80. 00 with no mention at all about tips or taxi fare. I was with two other ISG members and they had the same experience. The tales of $150. 00 plus are extremely exaggerated. The only other thought I have, and don't take this personal, girls are more apt to go with someone that is nice to them, takes a bath, has good manners, and is in good/average shape. I did see a couple guys there that didn't meet any of these criteria and the girls either wouldn't go at all or wanted a lot of money. These were also very nice girls that we all were happy with. If Habanos girls are asking too much just don't go there. They will get the message when they sit there all night alone. Supply and demand. Besides, there are so many girls in Veneto that I'm not sure why you would need to look elsewhere for a girl. They did stop selling drinks at 2am which is OK since by then I probably had way to much to drink anyway. The place was crowded until at least 3:30am when I left.[/QUOTE]$80 Is doable, also consider. Time with girl for that price, Quality of girl, If your staying right up stairs at the Veneto, and How you look and act as you mentioned. I always go for TLN and its $150-$200. However lately that doesn't get TLN but more like when the sun comes up.

Question. Did you see anyone buy a bottle et right before 2 oclock and then continue to drink. Or is it like here in the US. Where all drinks must be off the table by a certain time.

[QUOTE=Vielendank;1246737]Hey guys, just wanted to validate what Freedom Fighter said. I"m here in PC now and having a drink with FF. Had to do a little work at the hotel for a short time but the Las Vegas Suites does charge a $25. 00 fee for each girl you bring to the room now. Really not worth it even with the cheaper hotel rate. If you call Veneto they will give you a room for $79. 00 plus tax, give or take, and no fee. Your choice but I guess when they see the occupancy go down they might rethink it.[/QUOTE]Can confirm the $25 'visitor fee' at the Vegas, but was quoted $200 when I called for pricing at the Veneto, and same quote when I checked in person. Best bet is via the 'net.

Finally found myself back in PTY after wandering around the giant 'Mongering Wasteland' that is the rest of this country for a while.

If you find yourself sitting around at 2 AM and having foolishly failed to pull the trigger and choose your chica for the night as I just did, here's a way out. My cabbie / wingman reminded me of an option I'd all but forgotten. Go to 'Royal Elegance', a 24 hour 'casa' that doesn't serve alcohol. Every taxista will know it. Mostly Columbianas, and 5-8 on the Dama Scale, I was there just last night at 2:30 AM with more than a dozen possibilities present. Price is $ for one hr. But you can negotiate. 80 for 45 min. And the rooms are quite clean.

Just don't do what I did. Looking for that ever elusive GFE I generally favor 30 somethings, or even older. But the 'little head' started doing all the thinking when we saw a very cute 20 yr. old Panamania with large but rock hard nalgas. A mostly comotose fish performance ensued, unfortunately. Will I NEVER learn? But there were several nice looking possiilities. I just chose poorly for my particular tastes and I have only myself to blame.

Again, an option for my fellow late night 'prowlers' up against the much detested 'Ley Zanahoria'.

[QUOTE=Vielendank;1247749]I just got home from PC and was at the Veneto. Contrary to what many have written on here, the girls were willing to be with me for $80. 00 with no mention at all about tips or taxi fare. I was with two other ISG members and they had the same experience. The tales of $150. 00 plus are extremely exaggerated. The only other thought I have, and don't take this personal, girls are more apt to go with someone that is nice to them, takes a bath, has good manners, and is in good/average shape. I did see a couple guys there that didn't meet any of these criteria and the girls either wouldn't go at all or wanted a lot of money. These were also very nice girls that we all were happy with. If Habanos girls are asking too much just don't go there. They will get the message when they sit there all night alone. Supply and demand. Besides, there are so many girls in Veneto that I'm not sure why you would need to look elsewhere for a girl. They did stop selling drinks at 2am which is OK since by then I probably had way to much to drink anyway. The place was crowded until at least 3:30am when I left.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your feedback. So I guess things are pretty much normal at Veneto, even with the Carrot Law. I see Veneto still have plenty of women which is great. Last time I was at the veneto they didn't even allow women in from raids, etc. Now might be a time to go.

I was in Panama City last ten days in January, staying at Veneto. The room was $89 plus tax on the WYNDAM website.

Chica prices: Habanos $80-100, Veneto $60-100 [this is the amount I actually paid] No one asked for tips or cabfare.

I also found some in Manolos Restaurante in the afternoon for $50-70. I went to the Oriental Massage a couple of times,

still $60 for the hour.

The VIPbodeguida[sp? ] on Via Espana has some older Columbianas. They open up in thelate afternoons and have live entertainment most evenings, although sometimes only bad kareoke.

I didn"t find that the early closing time to be a problem for me but I'm not much of a drinker. It seemed that many of the girls

became more realistic by 1:00am and were not in a big hurry to leave as they had no expectations of getting another customer after 2am

Hello All,

I am going to PC in March and staying at the Radisson Decapolis, is this hotel girl friendly? Am I going to have to pay alot for some action? Are those clubs Habanos, elite, etc close by the city?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1246683]So I ended up at Golden Time (taxi driver informed me Miami was no shit and GT was THE place)

I now know that was bullshit.

Its a nice setup, nice girls I chose a hot titty lovers babe from Medellin spectacular body great fucking her but here's the catch.

From the 45 minutes you pay for, now $116, apparently only 10 min of that is sex time. After a mediocre massage, and some breathtakingly short oral with condom, she mounted me. When I decided to change position, she went into reverse cowgirl which is not my style, or anybodys apart from pornstars in my opinion. After 5 min of this bullshit I wanted to get on top but she informed me that the time was up. I reminded her I paid for 45minutes and we had only being fucking for 10min, maximum. She replied that this does not mean 45min sex time and then the penny dropped. She was now unresponsive and was pulling away from me when I wanted to come inside her, expeting she might give me at least 5min more time, NO. Finally as I went to come I held her arms down as the * was not going to let me come inside her pulling away from me, and she was pissed off.[/QUOTE]Nice report, thanks for taking the time. As for Golden Time, the reason it was $116 was that you probably took a taxi directly there- the taxi driver will then get a big commission. Best to have the Taxi drop you off at Casino Fantastico in El Dorado and then walk up the hill to Golden Time, then the rate is only $87. As to the 10 minutes of sex, that will vary girl by girl. Most of them in there give very good service and are pretty affectionate, there are some cold, clock-watchers too so try to pre-qualify as best you can.

Now, I'm finally getting some quality time to 'play' in the city; here's an update on last night's escapades:

Met up with my 'retired' Columbiana for an early dinner last night. I spoke about her a while back in this forum, and was questioning if she would be willing to have some 'dessert' after the meal. She's a 40 something 'gem' I pulled out of La Bocatorena last year, with the body of a 25 year old. A TRUE Latin MILF, and she looked even younger this time around if that was possible. She did, in fact, stop by my place after dinner for some 'leche', but I could tell her heart wasn't really in it. She has a novio now, and a legit office job. As they say, I suppose, you can never really go home, and I will probably never see her again, but that's the way it goes, 'ni modo'.

Later last night I had a hankering for some low life mongering so headed over to La Gloria for a little bachata lesson with a real GFE type Dominicana I'd met there. $50 for 30 min. Her figure would not suit eveyone's taste (3 kids and 33 years old) but she was fun to be with and did her best to make me feel good. And she succeeded.

After a brief rest I headed over to El Veneto about 1:30 AM. Now I'm going to have to take back some of what I said in this thread about how the place 'dies' at 2 AM, thanks to the new 'Carrot Law'. There were quite a few ladies hanging around for some time, and man were those crazy prices falling fast! Earlier in the evening I'd been quoted $ and even $.50 by a couple of hotties. But at 3 AM I heard. 50 each for a pair of amigas who wanted to make it a 3-some! I was tempted, but I'd had two pops already that evening, and to quote Clint Eastwood, 'A man's got to know his limitations. '. Besides, one was smoking ass hot but the other was only a fake blonde gordita. I passed.

Early today I hit La Bocatorena again, looking for that elusive 'diamond amongst the turds'. I actually had one cutie there quote $ for an hour at my place, and claimed she works Habanos late at night and gets it. Now keep in mind that laughable price was given to me in a place where $15 gets you 15 min. In a dirty little room 'arriba'. I shook my head in amazement and moved on. Finally located my 'gem' amidst all the squalor that is 'the Boca', and Stephanie wound up being more 'a quartz crystal' rather than a 'diamonte'. $50 for an hour at my place, but was 'completo' in the true Brazilian sense of the word. Even got some AR, and can't remember ever receiving THAT in Panama.

Tonite I'm going to TOFTT and check out the action at the Caledonia Casino. My cabbie / wingman says there's some low level chica action there, and mas barato. We shall see. If that doesn't pan out I can always head back to el Veneto for some bargain hunting around 3 AM. God do I love banging hot, busty Columbianas on the cheap! I can now relate to the sheer enjoyment the ladies get back in the States when they pull a pair of deeply discounted Jimmy Chew heels out of the bargain bin at Saks 5th Ave!

[QUOTE=Skins83; 1248289]Hello, All,

I am going to PC in March and staying at the Radisson Decapolis, is this hotel girl friendly? Am I going to have to pay alot for some action? Are those clubs Habanos, elite, etc close by the city?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Decapolis has a $25-$50 chica fee. I forget which. You are close enough to Veneto, Habanos all the action. $5 and 5 minute cab ride.

Sounds like the carrot law and maybe just sheer supply and demand has brought the price down a lot. Thats great. Maybe the chicas will also come to understand that they need to start providing better service and stop clock watching. Here's hoping Panama returns to its glory days.

Weekends last serving is 3am. Weekdays 2am. Is that correct

[QUOTE=Mfins;1247828]Question. Did you see anyone buy a bottle et right before 2 oclock and then continue to drink. Or is it like here in the US. Where all drinks must be off the table by a certain time.[/QUOTE]Much like in the US. The venue has to be cleared of patygoers, but if you get a bottle before the time, you can take it with you

[QUOTE=Mfins;1248758]Weekends last serving is 3am. Weekdays 2am. Is that correct[/QUOTE]Sun-Wed top is 2am.

Thur-Sat top is 3am.

And for everyone who is in Panama around this carnival dates, starting Friday 17th till Tuesday 21st, the Carrot Law is suspended due to the Carnival. The Cinta Costera will be closed for festivities, so if you don't find anything to do, make arrangements with your providers and this might be a day option.

There will be several stages with performing artists, culecos during the day. Practice good OpSec, since this area will be crowded with the "pueblo people", but there will be plenty of security around, as the police will be deployed en masse. Here is the link for the map of the area.

[url]http://www.prensa.com/sites/default/files/updata/2012/02/15/impreso/1687201b.jpg[/url]

Last evening for fun in Panama, so I decided to check out the Casino my wingman / cabbie had mentioned. Turns out he meant the 'Fiesta' on Caledonia Ave, and there were indeed some pretty obvious working girls present. But only a couple, and they frankly, wouldn't have made the first cut at the Veneto or Habanos. This is clearly a local's hangout and it's almost exclusively slots with a very small lounge, but drinks are ridiculously cheap (rum and cokes are barely a dollar).

So back to plan B and a return, once more, into the swirling sex pit that is the Veneto. For the uninitiated, just imagine a smaller, mid range casino in Vegas, complete with most of the table games, craps, black jack, etc. But in addition you have 50 or more HOT Columbianas with a few Dominicanas and Venezuelans thrown in for good measure. They are just standing around, staring at you and smiling, all vying to catch your attention. And every one of them just wants to go home with YOU, and RIGHT NOW! It can be intoxicating for even the most hardened ego, so it's important to stay grounded and know its your WALLET they really admire. Absolutely nothing like this exists in Las Vegas, I can assure you.

Anyway, after a lot of light banter with several chicas (some fluency with Spanish really helps here) I clicked with a very tall 30 year old (they all fudge a bit, but no matter) from Cali. She sported 36's with a super small, tight ass and legs that I swear looked to start at her Adam's Apple. I was suddenly overcome with the desire to verify she was as 'naturale' as she claimed, all in the comfort of my room at the Vegas Suites nearby. Kicking into my most charming and endearing negotiation mode, she quickly dropped from $.25 (ridiculous, but you can't blame a girl for trying) down to a more reasonable. 80, though she did try to 'stay' at $ for a brief moment. Lest you think I've let that highly stroked ego of mine get out of hand, let you remember it was getting late, past 1:00 AM and her options were fading fast as the 'witching hour' was upon us. Maybe this Carrot Law isn't so bad after all. At least it makes 'Last Call' a little earlier in the evening!)

But I digress. She wound up staying for two hours, and service was above average with lots of realistic 'pleasure sounds', a decent massage, and some very sensual conversation to accompany the CBJ and multiple positions. I gave her a small tip and bid her adieu as I wanted at least a couple of hours of sleep before my early morning flight home. But all in all, a great last bang in Panama, and I'm already looking forward to the return trip in a couple of months.

A couple of nights ago I saw my first real, drop dead gorgeous Panamanian P4P chica in a high-end location. The Veneto casino. With all due respect to the Ladies of Panama, the very few working girls I've encountered from that country, frankly, could not hold a candle to what you see overwhelmingly from Columbia, with a few Dominicanas and Venezuelans thrown in.

Panamians at ANY level of appearance are just rare in this business, at least at Habanos, Veneto, etc, at least from my experience.

For what it's worth she said her name was 'Jessie' and 21 years old. She was very dark skinned with an absolutely perfect complexion, an angelic face and a killer, slender build. Her low cut top revealed a lot of natural-rock hard 'B' cup cleavage that showed no signs of any brassiere support. Nor a need for it! WOW! She looked so young I doubted her claim to be both 21 AND Panamanian. But I chatted with her long enough to determine from her accent that she truly sounded like a local to me.

She sported braces and a dazzling smile that made me seriously question both the legality and wisdom of taking a chance on her and passed. She asked $.25 for her sevices, and both her highly exotic and youthful looks made me suspect she may often get it.

If anybody takes a flyer on this little chica, please report back!

[QUOTE=Rippa;1248978]I clicked with a very tall 30 year old (they all fudge a bit, but no matter) from Cali. She sported 36's with a super small, tight ass and legs that I swear looked to start at her Adam's Apple.[/QUOTE]Well, very tall would be your first clue and Adam's apple (nuez de Adán) would be your second clue. You fucked a guy. But whatever you are into is fine with me. By the way it is colombiana, no "u" and not capitalized. And, a women from Venezuela is a venezolana.

[quote=dickhead;1249526]well, very tall would be your first clue and adam's apple (nuez de adán) would be your second clue. you fucked a guy. but whatever you are into is fine with me. by the way it is colombiana, no "u" and not capitalized. and, a women from venezuela is a venezolana.[/quote]thanks for the spelling lessons, 'dick', though my term 'adam's apple' is purely a figure of speech, and this gal was most definitely 100% chica. i've mongered enough for almost 40 years and around the world to know the 'lady boys' when i see one.

perhaps you are 'projecting' a bit here in your off-the-wall comments 'dick', and pulling a high priced 'puto' out of a place like the veneto may be your fantasy, but not mine, and certainly not one suitable for this forum.

Rippa, Respectfully, you set yourself up for that one. I'm sure Dickhead was just joking. And all of us here except native speakers can learn better grammar from him -- Spanish, not English (a women from Venezuela is a venezolana???)

Thanks for the reports. They're entertaining and it's good to know the Veneto is back in high gear.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12; 1249717]Rippa, Respectfully, you set yourself up for that one. I'm sure Dickhead was just joking. And all of us here except native speakers can learn better grammar from him. Spanish, not English (a women from Venezuela is a venezolana?)

Thanks for the reports. They're entertaining and it's good to know the Veneto is back in high gear.[/QUOTE]IS VENETO REALLY BACK IN HIGH GEAR? I think the reviews are mixed. Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Snipps;1251568]IS VENETO REALLY BACK IN HIGH GEAR? I think the reviews are mixed. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Guess it all depends on what your definition of "back in full gear' is. I must first admit that my recent trip was only the 2nd time I'd really had the time to prowl the casino, the first time being back in May of 2011. Most of my high-end mongering has been restricted to Habanos up to this point. And that bar, by the way, was a bit of of a disappointment this last time around. Selection was down, as was the quality in my opinion. One obvious Cold Fish stunner actually accused me of being a police officer, and 'warned' another chica to avoid me. I speak Spanish, but definitely with an English accent, and being blonde and over 6' tall, I don't think I'd 'pass' as one of Panama City's finest. Weird.

Back to el Veneto. Let me describe a bit in detail what I saw, and you casino fans with more experience can tell us what you think. First, there were never less than 50 or so chicas around, some times more. Many were 8's on my scale, with a handful of 9's and better every night. Very few of the customers I saw looked to be hard-core gambling. Lots of punters drinking and talking up the ladies. (BTW, would the obvious American monger I saw wearing a cammo t-shirt and Bermuda shorts please take a look in the mirror. LOL. Sandals and knee length black socks as well. Really?). The Latin salsa band was hot every night and I saw many 'couples' dancing and having a good time. I was also concerned about the impact of the new 'Carrot Law' with an enforced closing time of 2 AM. The number of chicas definitely thinned at that hour, but I did notice quite a few still hanging around at 3 AM.

I certainly found enough action to keep me more than amply entertained, but I will have to defer to the Veneto experts here on the forum with more experience than myself.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1251568]IS VENETO REALLY BACK IN HIGH GEAR? I think the reviews are mixed. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Veneto is definitely back in high gear. I've been making frequent trips to Panama for 7 years and at present the quality and quantity is as high as I've ever seen it. Only downside is that many of the girls seem to be the all-business, hard-core types. There are still some nice, fun ones around, just have to look a little harder.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1251822]Veneto is definitely back in high gear. I've been making frequent trips to Panama for 7 years and at present the quality and quantity is as high as I've ever seen it. Only downside is that many of the girls seem to be the all-business, hard-core types. There are still some nice, fun ones around, just have to look a little harder.[/QUOTE]Anyone can tell me how this place compares to the Del Rey and surrounding area in San Jose, CR?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1251826]Anyone can tell me how this place compares to the Del Rey and surrounding area in San Jose, CR?[/QUOTE]I personally prefer PC to CR but both have their advantages. Veneto much classier location, nice fun casino, less packed in, than Del Rey but PC action more spread out and less daytime action although it is there. PC may be little pricier but it is what you make it. PC definitely has more to offer than San Jose. Real cosmopolitan city worth checking out. Panama ecotourism less developed than CR but really good if you are adventurous.

Two trips to PC this month with Bocas in the middle. Veneto very good but a little more commercial, hardcore than before. My cell phone stolen first day. Did well staying up late. Habanos not so impressive. Second trip was Sunday during Carnivale, a little slow. Ended up with a 7, Angie, for 80, but performance was a 9. 5. Stuck with her the rest of the stay.

Donation starts at 150 quickly go to 120, 100 with no counter, Usually stay at 100. Girls ignore you if you won't take 100 but I'm sure that would change if you came back. I missed out on 70 my first stay that I regretted.

As previously noted Las Vegas Suites now has $25 chica fee (and painfully slow sullen payment). Tower House Suites, $65 February special, worked out well on second go round. Good value, (great views of AChe, Hooters on one side, Veneto on the other side of my big suite) , nice pool, generous breakfast. No I'd on entry. Nice people. Just don't screw it up for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1251826]Anyone can tell me how this place compares to the Del Rey and surrounding area in San Jose, CR?[/QUOTE]The Del Rey is a *****house with a casino / hotel attached. The Veneto is a casino / hotel where hookers hang out. As far as accommodations go, the Veneto is nicer and it costs more. It used to be a lot nicer but has run down significantly in recent years. They don't charge $10 every time you take a girl to the room like the Del Rey.


You can find women any hour of the day or night and the selection is much larger at the Del Rey. The Veneto is only an option during the evening, and it sucks during the early part of the evening. Women at both establishments are mercenary but IMO a little less mercenary on average at the Veneto. During peak hours I would generally run into 2 or 3 women in the Del Rey that were really hot. That's not necessarily the case at the Veneto. In terms of looks, I'd rate the selection at the Veneto somewhare between Key Largo and the Del Rey. There have been times when I wouldn't run into anyone at the Veneto I wanted to pull.


If your primary consideration in where you're going is getting laid, you're better off in San Jose. And for that matter if you like nature, mountains, and comfortable weather Costa Rica is better. If you like big cities go to Panama. Panama City is preferable for the non-pro nightlife, although I don't know if that's still the case with the earlier closing times.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1251822]Veneto is definitely back in high gear. I've been making frequent trips to Panama for 7 years and at present the quality and quantity is as high as I've ever seen it. Only downside is that many of the girls seem to be the all-business, hard-core types. There are still some nice, fun ones around, just have to look a little harder.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree with these latest posts. I been to veneto about 5 times and best time was about 4 years ago. Every year after the quality and quantity went down. Hard to believe that over 50 women are at the veneto at any given days. During the 5 times I went there were only about 15-20.

Just returned from Panama City yesterday and did my usual stay at the Veneto. I have been going to PTY for over 5 years now and usually at least every other month and I must say that the talent at the Veneto is quite good. There really is quite a variety / selection of girls there. Like some posts say"the girls are mechanical" or "the price has gone up" and so on and so on. I believe if you ask the right questions and simply tell the talent what you expect then alot of guys can have a better time. I am paying the same as I did 5 years ago at the Veneto or Habanos and other places. I enjoy the Veneto because you really never have to leave the place if you don't want to, although I do. I think the main point is taking your time and making sure you check out ALL the girls at any particular place.

Anyway Happy Mongering!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1251826]Anyone can tell me how this place compares to the Del Rey and surrounding area in San Jose, CR?[/QUOTE]Apples and Oranges by comparison. PC is nothing like it used to be, and that's only within the five years that I've been going there. The "new" Habanos sucks ($4. 60 for a beer!) , Veneto is hit or miss, but definitely not a fun place to meet and drink with a chick. CR hands down, if you're just considering the Del Rey and Key Largo. Sit at the Blue Marlin, enjoy a beer, watch some American sports, then go after the girl that catches your eye. If she does catch your eye, chances are she'll make her way over to you.

A question for you locals / residents.

Does anybody really get laid at Carnaval? I'm talking about casual, pickup sex with regular gals with reduced inhibitions.

Everything that I've seen and heard from panamanians (20 people crashed in a room, multiple layers of clothing, national outrage if a woman dances provocatively at the culeco) tells me no.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn; 1254756]A question for you locals / residents.

Does anybody really get laid at Carnaval? I'm talking about casual, pickup sex with regular gals with reduced inhibitions.

Everything that I've seen and heard from panamanians (20 people crashed in a room, multiple layers of clothing, national outrage if a woman dances provocatively at the culeco) tells me no.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure how a gringo would fare, but I've heard from many of my Panamanian friends that the girls are very, very promiscuous during Carnival.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn; 1254756]A question for you locals / residents.

Does anybody really get laid at Carnaval? I'm talking about casual, pickup sex with regular gals with reduced inhibitions.

Everything that I've seen and heard from panamanians (20 people crashed in a room, multiple layers of clothing, national outrage if a woman dances provocatively at the culeco) tells me no.[/QUOTE]Anything can happen, but the answer is NO. You will not get laid during Carnival. I suppose if you are college student in there 20's willing to sweat, dance, party all day and all night, fight crowds et you got a shot but as far as Mongering. Stay away. The panamanians are not interested in sleeping with a gringo foreigner during Carnival. In fact in Panama being a Gringo does not carry as much weight or status as it does in other Latin American Countries. My suggestion. Go to Panama another time when things are more normal

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1254820]I've heard from many of my Panamanian friends that the girls are very, very promiscuous during Carnival.[/QUOTE]That's my point. I *hear* about promiscuity, but have never seen it. Every time I directly ask a panamanian female, including ones I've been intimate with, about their sexual experiences during carnaval, the reply is negative. In the case of the celebrations in the interior, it's all about drinking all day long and crashing in a rented house with 20 of your closest friends. Maybe they're just being modest, or maybe I'm asking the wrong demographic.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn;1255093]That's my point. I *hear* about promiscuity, but have never seen it. Every time I directly ask a panamanian female, including ones I've been intimate with, about their sexual experiences during carnaval, the reply is negative. In the case of the celebrations in the interior, it's all about drinking all day long and crashing in a rented house with 20 of your closest friends. Maybe they're just being modest, or maybe I'm asking the wrong demographic.[/QUOTE]Pretty much that is what they are doing. Drinking, sweating all day, Partying, passing out in the park or with 20 people in one room and trust me there is no mass orgy going on in there. Especially with tourists.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1252661]I tend to agree with these latest posts. I been to veneto about 5 times and best time was about 4 years ago. Every year after the quality and quantity went down. Hard to believe that over 50 women are at the veneto at any given days. During the 5 times I went there were only about 15-20.[/QUOTE]I just came back from a lay over in PTY before heading to Cuba. I went to the Veneto on a Wednesday night and there were at least 40. 50 girls in there. I grabbed one for. 80 (she was a strong 7 bordering on 8) and headed to los arcos. Los arcos is a great short stay hotel close by it was clean and cheap. I also passed by fase 2 which had some stunners but is way over priced.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1252661]I tend to agree with these latest posts. I been to veneto about 5 times and best time was about 4 years ago. Every year after the quality and quantity went down. Hard to believe that over 50 women are at the veneto at any given days. During the 5 times I went there were only about 15-20.[/QUOTE]I meant le Palace not fase 2. Thinking of Medellin.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1252661]I tend to agree with these latest posts. I been to veneto about 5 times and best time was about 4 years ago. Every year after the quality and quantity went down. Hard to believe that over 50 women are at the veneto at any given days. During the 5 times I went there were only about 15-20.[/QUOTE]They haven't had an immigration raid ssince June, so there are lots of girls. In addition, things kind of pendulum swing as to quality and quantity between the Veneto and Habanos to a degree, we are currently in a Veneto mode.

Has anyone run into Silvia (sandra milena Rey). She is of medium build and usually hangs out in american bars.

She is a fantastic dancer and can really do the deed in la cama.

Mel

Greetings everyone!

I live in Panama City so just giving you an update as to the real prices at Habanos, the Veneto and Ashe.

Here goes:

HABANOS / ASHE: Asking $150 or more before 1am. The high end stunners will take $100 or $120. However, close.

To the curfew shutdown (2am or 3am weekends) , the girls can be rented for $70 or $80 without to much haggling.

This is for an hour or hour and a half. Double it for all night.

VENETO: The same applies here. Except as the Veneto is a real money laundering casino, the action goes on a bit.

Longer and you can get the girls at the same prices after 2am or 3am.

There have been some stunners at all these places. But remember (JMHO) , attitude is more important than looks.

Of course, sometimes it is higher, and it could be lower. But this is a REALISTIC example of prices here in March 2012.

[QUOTE=Viva Chicas; 1256274]Greetings everyone!

I live in Panama City so just giving you an update as to the real prices at Habanos, the Veneto and Ashe.

Here goes:

HABANOS / ASHE: Asking $150 or more before 1am. The high end stunners will take $100 or $120. However, close.

To the curfew shutdown (2am or 3am weekends) , the girls can be rented for $70 or $80 without to much haggling.

This is for an hour or hour and a half. Double it for all night.

VENETO: The same applies here. Except as the Veneto is a real money laundering casino, the action goes on a bit.

Longer and you can get the girls at the same prices after 2am or 3am.

There have been some stunners at all these places. But remember (JMHO) , attitude is more important than looks.

Of course, sometimes it is higher, and it could be lower. But this is a REALISTIC example of prices here in March 2012.[/QUOTE]Hey this is my first time going to Panama and ill be staying at the playa blanca resort, I'm 23 yrs old and I was wondering if I can get some action at the resort? Or do I really have to travel to Panama city. I'm traveling with my two older sisters. Soo sneaking out at night from the resort is my best bet when I can get some action LOL

Any info is greatly appreaciated, I need to know things like, should I just get a cab when I travel to Panama city. I heard its 80 bucks?

To be honest I really don't want to have to travel to Panama city to get some pussy, are there some nice girls at the resort?

Greetings,

Some bad news for Brazilianguy. There are no girls to be had at Playa Blanca.

Most people go there with their spouse or with a boyfriend / girlfriend. So almost.

Everyone already has a partner. Sad to say, but there is no place to sneak out.

To visit when your sister's are not looking.

The action is in Panama City and it is 1 1/2 hours away from the resort and it

Would cost you about $80 for a van or taxi. Not cost effective.

Only way to do is is to find a "friend" at one of the places I mentioned and take.

Her with you. $300 should be about right for 2 nights. Plus you would have to pay.

For her to be there which is about $135 a night. I assume your sister's have their.

Own room.

I arrived in Panama last night. Went straight to the Veneto around 10pm and yes there was more than 50 girls working. In fact, I would put the number much higher, closer to 75 girls working. I was very surprised about the quality. Definitely some nice ones, some fat ones, but more quality than I expected. Got a girl from Cali, who was excellent. Offered $100 and she accepted right away. Here 3 more days and will post any new information.

Viper10

[QUOTE=Viva Chicas; 1257945]Greetings,

Some bad news for Brazilianguy. There are no girls to be had at Playa Blanca.

Most people go there with their spouse or with a boyfriend / girlfriend. So almost.

Everyone already has a partner. Sad to say, but there is no place to sneak out.

To visit when your sister's are not looking.

The action is in Panama City and it is 1 1/2 hours away from the resort and it

Would cost you about $80 for a van or taxi. Not cost effective.

Only way to do is is to find a "friend" at one of the places I mentioned and take.

Her with you. $300 should be about right for 2 nights. Plus you would have to pay.

For her to be there which is about $135 a night. I assume your sister's have their.

Own room.[/QUOTE]Hey thanks for the reply man!

Greatly appreaciate it! Yes I figure I would get no action at all LOL. Well I guess I just have to deal with it LOL

Although we may visit Panama city during one of the week days when we are there. LOL. Soo I might have a few hours to myself LOL. And this is a maybe.

Man sucks when your traveling with family LOL.

Some of you guys are lucky!

Hey guys. Just stumbled on this forum a few days ago. In my early 20s so just starting my mongering "career". Thanks to all the guys for their contributions.

Coming to Panama on Tuesday 9am. Booked in veneto. Asked for an early checkin. Hopefully ill get it.

Few questions.

As ill be early in town, are there any places to monger early on in the day? If so how far is it from veneto?

Is golden times a good place to go? What will be a good time to go?

In the veneto casino what is a good and early time to go?

I speak 4 words of spanish. Will that be a problem?

Will post reports soon after.

Thanks guys.

BTW I'd like to get pm services but I don't want ISG to appear on the statement. I'm assuming all of us here are masters of being discreet from folks back home (employers, family etc)

Or I could be wrong. So what's the way around it, if any.

Those prices are ridiculously high.

[QUOTE=Viva Chicas; 1256274]Greetings everyone!

I live in Panama City so just giving you an update as to the real prices at Habanos, the Veneto and Ashe.

Here goes:

HABANOS / ASHE: Asking $150 or more before 1am. The high end stunners will take $100 or $120. However, close.

To the curfew shutdown (2am or 3am weekends) , the girls can be rented for $70 or $80 without to much haggling.

This is for an hour or hour and a half. Double it for all night.

VENETO: The same applies here. Except as the Veneto is a real money laundering casino, the action goes on a bit.

Longer and you can get the girls at the same prices after 2am or 3am.

There have been some stunners at all these places. But remember (JMHO) , attitude is more important than looks.

Of course, sometimes it is higher, and it could be lower. But this is a REALISTIC example of prices here in March 2012.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AladinJew; 1258126]1. As ill be early in town, are there any places to monger early on in the day? If so how far is it from veneto?

2. Is golden times a good place to go? What will be a good time to go?

3. In the veneto casino what is a good and early time to go?

4. I speak 4 words of spanish. Will that be a problem?[/QUOTE]1. Yes, massage parlors. The closest Oasis is about 50 yards from Veneto.

2. Yes. Best time is around 8:00 PM. It opens around 7:30 PM and selection and the hookers' attitudes are best early on.

3. Around 11:00 PM

4. Not a problem, but you'd likely enjoy it more if you spoke more.

Brazilian Guy, Viva Chicas is probably correct. But you could ask around the town of Rio Hato. There used to be a bar there that had a few available women on certain nights.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1259108]Brazilian Guy, Viva Chicas is probably correct. But you could ask around the town of Rio Hato. There used to be a bar there that had a few available women on certain nights.[/QUOTE]I forget the name of the bar, but it is closed now and for sale. With the new international airport coming in, that could be a big opportunity for a would be entrepreneur. There is no way to be sure, but a lot of weekends some of the girls (usually never more that 5) head to Playa Blanca resort and stay there and troll for clients. Nothing you can count on for sure, but something to keep an eye on. There is also a disco at Decamaron resort nextdoor, it's extremely lame, but that also may attract some pro's who happen to be the area. Don't think there would be any action mid-week, but I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12; 1259105]1. Yes, massage parlors. The closest Oasis is about 50 yards from Veneto.

2. Yes. Best time is around 8:00 PM. It opens around 7:30 PM and selection and the hookers' attitudes are best early on.

3. Around 11:00 PM.

4. Not a problem, but you'd likely enjoy it more if you spoke more.[/QUOTE]Thanks flying in tommorow. Will write up a post soon.

Once again appreciate your answers.

Cautionary note to the gamblers out there:

I recently visited PTY [again] and spent quite a bit of time playing blackjack at the casinos [again]. Luck was pretty good and I wound up winning just over $900 at the Veneto. Had a great time. However, upon returning home & putting some of the money in the bank, two of the $100 bills were counterfeit. Bottom line: I'm 100% positive that's where I got them. Period. Absolutely no doubt. The counterfeits were buried in the middle of the stack; they spread them out then when you pick them up you naturally stack them again. They did look very good but I never really touched them since they were buried in the stack.

FYI only; first time I've ever been scammed by a casino like that. Lost all respect for the Veneto.

/dddick

Ok so in Panama too early

Thanks to tiny12 wet to oasis. 42$ fee and extras you negotiate

Had 3 girls. Maybe 7-8. 1 had a nice body.

Choose the one who looked interested and smiled. Had a good body. Not really thin. 7-8 in looks 23 yr old from Panama (well that's what she said) name is Moneca. Or something like that-

Damn was she good.

Started off massage. Then sucking my body, balls, kissing. Then had BBBJ. Really good. After I came, I said I want you again. No problem 50$ per session. Very friendly.

Warmed me up again. Had her in missionary and doggy! She was rocking me. I couldn't hold it. After that cuddling etc. Took her number and I left.

Damage. $42 room fee.

$100 for 2 sessions.

Was worth it!

Any other places close by veneto?

Will post later on once action starts at veneto.

[QUOTE=Dan D Dick; 1259849]Cautionary note to the gamblers out there:

I recently visited PTY [again] and spent quite a bit of time playing blackjack at the casinos [again]. Luck was pretty good and I wound up winning just over $900 at the Veneto. Had a great time. However, upon returning home & putting some of the money in the bank, two of the $100 bills were counterfeit. Bottom line: I'm 100% positive that's where I got them. Period. Absolutely no doubt. The counterfeits were buried in the middle of the stack; they spread them out then when you pick them up you naturally stack them again. They did look very good but I never really touched them since they were buried in the stack.

FYI only; first time I've ever been scammed by a casino like that. Lost all respect for the Veneto.

/dddick[/QUOTE]Wow. They usually don't deal with 100's. When I cashed out, even though it was quite a few 100's, they gave me all 20$ bills and I had to wait a while for this process. Some of the bills they gave me were taped up, etc. They do check the 100's when people buy in but I am not sure how good their bill checker's are. I have also heard they remove some 10's from their BJ decks. I suggest you don't try to use those bills at the tables next time you are there. LOL. You can mention and try to get a refund / exchange.

Tbuss, Is the disco you're referring to inside the grounds of the Decameron, where you'd have to be staying there to get in, or outside? I've stayed at the Decameron several times but most of my time there was passed in an alcohol-induced haze (all inclusives do that to me) so I don't remember much.

Have you heard about any plans for nonstops between Rio Hato and the USA? I'm surprised they're building there. Given that it's only a little over 2 hours from Tocumen you wouldn't think it makes much sense to put in an international airport. But if a gringo were looking at buying a place on the coast or Altos de Maria it would sure be a big plus.

Aladin, about your question for other places close to the Veneto, see the following map:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1894-Panama-City&p=624256&viewfull=1#post624256[/url]

You'll definitely want to try Habano's. Le Palace is worth a look if you like high end strip clubs. Also Elite, which is just off the southwest corner of the map, where Calle Uruguay dead ends into the main east / west highway. I like Elite better than LePalace. These are all evening places. Go after 9:00 PM. There are sometimes hookers eating at Manolo's restaurant, in the afternoon and evening, across the street from Veneto's.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1260269]Tbuss, Is the disco you're referring to inside the grounds of the Decameron, where you'd have to be staying there to get in, or outside? I've stayed at the Decameron several times but most of my time there was passed in an alcohol-induced haze (all inclusives do that to me) so I don't remember much.[/QUOTE]I'm not 100% sure where it is, I was at it several years ago and was in an alcohol-induced haze as well, I do know we weren't staying at Decameron but were able to get access.

[QUOTE]Have you heard about any plans for nonstops between Rio Hato and the USA? I'm surprised they're building there. Given that it's only a little over 2 hours from Tocumen you wouldn't think it makes much sense to put in an international airport. But if a gringo were looking at buying a place on the coast or Altos de Maria it would sure be a big plus.[/QUOTE]The airport will be full international and will be taking flights from US, and many other large markets. There are a lot of high-end resorts there and the area is developing quickly, I'm sure many of the big hotel operators lobbied the government to have it there as 2 hours is a long drive to those beaches after someone has taken an international flight. Besides that, a lot of the reason for the selection was financial, since there used to be a large US military airport there so I believe that it will cost like 1/10th of what it would if there was no airport there previously.

Glad, you are having good time. I know only 4 words of Spanish too. How easy is it enjoy chicas or get around with out Spanish? I appreciate your in put. Will consider PTY, if can accomplish with out English. How did you get to Veneto?

I am going to be traveling to Panama City, Panama next month for 4 days. I will be arriving Panama City around 2:30pm. Will I be able to check into my hotel room at Veneto Casino at that time. I see that their check inn time is 4:00pm.

Thanks

Dave.

[QUOTE=Mam Rich;1260361]Glad, you are having good time. I know only 4 words of Spanish too. How easy is it enjoy chicas or get around with out Spanish? I appreciate your in put. Will consider PTY, if can accomplish with out English. How did you get to Veneto?[/QUOTE]

Has anyone come across Sandra- a profesional dancer and working girl. Lived in Bucarananga now Santa marta?

Mel

I don't know whether some of these questions are serious or not. Whether you're going to enjoy mongering in a place where you don't speak the native language depends mostly on you. Do you want to get into a serious intellectual conversation with your date or do you just want to bang her? If you prefer the first your options will be limited, but not nonexistent. If you just want to bang you won't have any problems -- it's not like Japan where they'll shun you. You will be able to get around town without Spanish.

I would take a taxi to the Veneto. If you're arriving at the airport at 2:30 PM you probably won't get to the hotel until around 4:00 PM. You could request an early check in but you won't need it. If you do arrive at a hotel before they have a clean room, you have two options. Leave the luggage with the hotel and go do something or hang around until the room is ready. I always leave the luggage although once, in Athens, it was stolen.

[QUOTE=Dave1027; 1260760]I am going to be traveling to Panama City, Panama next month for 4 days. I will be arriving Panama City around 2:30pm. Will I be able to check into my hotel room at Veneto Casino at that time. I see that their check inn time is 4:00pm.

Thanks

Dave.[/QUOTE]
If the hotel will pick you up, take that. However, I would always take a cab from the airport to the hotel and not mess with buses or shuttles. A good cabbie will take the expressway and not the surface streets and get you to the hotel in 15 minutes when there is no traffic, or 30 minutes during rush hour. You can go upstairs and jump into a cab that has just dropped off passengers (when the cops are not with 20 feet or not looking) and negotiate $20-25, or just get a cab downstairs with the rest of the lemmings coming out of customs and pay $25-30. Make sure he takes the expressway, even though it costs him $2 toll. If he does, then he values his time and yours, is honest, and should become "your" cabbie for the trip back to the airport or any other long (more than $5 trips).

Veneto is a four star hotel with pretensions of being a five star hotel. If they secure your luggage, your luggage is secure. I doubt they will not have a room available for you if you arrive at 4pm, as they have a first rate maid staff. (unless a convention is leaving town, but I doubt it.) If they secure your luggage, but you don't feel comfortable walking around the neighborhood with your passport, cash, laptop. Stay in the hotel. Have lunch in the restaurant in the lobby (I recommend the native "sancocho" or chicken / beef stew, which will rehydrate and refresh you after your flight) or the mini sushi bar in the lobby, or have you meal in the casino and people watch. Or, have the staff bring up to you while you chill out sitting by the pool on the 7th floor roof.

The immediate neighborhood is very safe, providing you keep your wits about you, so feel free to go across the street, find one of the Chinese owned cellphone stores, and get a $12. 99 phone with some minutes. They are great for making local calls, and will be much cheaper than using the hotel to make your calls back to the states.

You can have lunch in the Manolo's restaurant acroos the street or in the food court on the same block as the hotel (they even have Subway!) and next to that is next to a pharmacy. Pick up you vitamin C or V (however, I recommend the other pharmacy that is block and a half away from the hotel, Arrocha, as there prices are less touristy and high.)

There are inexpensive cybe cafes across the street from the Veneto that also do long distance phone calls very cheap.

Down the hill from the Veneto is a McDonalds, but if you go down the hill, and turn left instead of towards the McDonalds, you will see a walkway that crosses over that big Spain Street (Calle Espana) and during the day, there is a shoe shine guy who will spit shine your shoes for just $1-2.

Go to the little mom-and-pop mini-grocery stores and stock up on juices, beers, and other refreshments for you room refrigerator. You do NOT want to pay big hotel prices for a candy bar from the mini-bar, so insist they empty out the fridge before you check in or shortly thereafter.

I like walking 50 meters from Manolo (down the stree that "T" intersections the Veneto) , walk past the vegetarian restaurant and the rental car places, and use the little grocery store (again, all Chinese owned) for shopping. I like the fresh juices, particularly pineapple juice that are so inexpensive and come in milk-carton packaging. Across the street from that one is a dry cleaner / laundromat. Take you laundry to be done there. Drop it off in the morning, pick up in the evening, and they charge you by the pound. A small 1/2 pillow case of laundry can be washed for less than $3 and that includes soap, softener, drying, and folding.

Anything the short or long term visitor needs can be found within five blocks of the Veneto.

Appreciate any advice I can get. Have been going through the threads but can't see if gt is open on Sunday.

Can anyone make reccommendations for a Sunday night besides gt?

Will report back after the visit

I like walking 50 meters from Manolo (down the stree that "T" intersections the Veneto) , walk past the vegetarian restaurant and the rental car places, and use the little grocery store (again, all Chinese owned) for shopping. I like the fresh juices, particularly pineapple juice that are so inexpensive and come in milk-carton packaging. Across the street from that one is a dry cleaner / laundromat. Take you laundry to be done there. Drop it off in the morning, pick up in the evening, and they charge you by the pound. A small 1/2 pillow case of laundry can be washed for less than $3 and that includes soap, softener, drying, and folding.

Anything the short or long term visitor needs can be found within five blocks of the Veneto.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. This will seal my plan to Veneto later this year.

[QUOTE=Jotting;1261825]Have been going through the threads but can't see if gt is open on Sunday. Can anyone make reccommendations for a Sunday night besides gt?[/QUOTE]GT is open on Sunday's. The time I went on a Sunday the pickings were pretty poor, and I seem to recall a couple of women at GT telling me Sunday is the night they take off. Elite and Miami are open. The casino at Veneto would be a good option. Habano's used to be closed on Sundays although I seem to recall someone here saying it's open now. Finally, Oasis should be open, but like GT the selection may not be the best.

If you like freelancers check out the Veneto and Habano's. They're only a few blocks away from each other. If you'd rather do the deed on site, then have a beer or two in Miami, then go to GT. (It's easy to avoid the dreaded taxi surcharge if you get the taxi driver to drop you at Nikko's by Miami. Also GT is pretty much just a wh*rehouse -- there are no dancing girls like in Miami later in the evening.)

Finally made it back to the veneto last weekend for a short stay. Thurs-Monday. This was my 5th time there. Was anxious to go back after reading all these recent reviews. All I have to say is Panama city-Veneto has gone downhill! I mean the quantity of women were an avg of about 20-30 a night with the exact same women working each night. The amount of mongers were double the amount of women, so the chicas were getting their way. Asking 200-150 at minimum for an hour. I never paid that much because I speak spanish, if you don't speak spanish they will take advantage of you. These guys are all willing to pay so this is why prices have gone up substantially also because they have no clue. I was with 3 women in a 4 night stay. 1 being a repeat. That's how bad the veneto has gotten. I even saw about 5 chicas from my last years trip! I'm picky and I tend to stay with 8-9 tops. 80% of the women were a 5-6 at most each night. Word has gotten out so the amount of gringos have doubled since I have been coming down. Each night I decided to also check out habanos and ache. Habonos was dead each night. More men than women. Asche was real shady with a lot of locals hanging outside looking around. Not a comfortable place to hang out, its an open bar. Again mostly men than women. Bodaguita was closed due to a recent shooting that occurred few weeks back. Asche is the old bodaguita 2. Same exact location, so they basically just changed the name. I was just amazed by how many guys vs women were at all these places. It felt kind of grimey at one point. I don't know about anyone else on here but when I go to one of these places I really don't want to start kicking the shit with other mongers, that's why I never decided to check out CR (del rey) Mongering in Panama city has gone downhill, there use to be plenty of women to choose from and so little mongers. To me, veneto is just like the del rey, Costa rica, but double the price! Sad to see veneto/habanos go down the shitter.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1262988]Finally made it back to the veneto last weekend for a short stay. Thurs-Monday. This was my 5th time there. Was anxious to go back after reading all these recent reviews. All I have to say is Panama city-Veneto has gone downhill! I mean the quantity of women were an avg of about 20-30 a night with the exact same women working each night. The amount of mongers were double the amount of women, so the chicas were getting their way. Asking 200-150 at minimum for an hour. I never paid that much because I speak spanish, if you don't speak spanish they will take advantage of you. These guys are all willing to pay so this is why prices have gone up substantially also because they have no clue. I was with 3 women in a 4 night stay. 1 being a repeat. That's how bad the veneto has gotten. I even saw about 5 chicas from my last years trip! I'm picky and I tend to stay with 8-9 tops. 80% of the women were a 5-6 at most each night. Word has gotten out so the amount of gringos have doubled since I have been coming down. Each night I decided to also check out habanos and ache. Habonos was dead each night. More men than women. Asche was real shady with a lot of locals hanging outside looking around. Not a comfortable place to hang out, its an open bar. Again mostly men than women. Bodaguita was closed due to a recent shooting that occurred few weeks back. Asche is the old bodaguita 2. Same exact location, so they basically just changed the name. I was just amazed by how many guys vs women were at all these places. It felt kind of grimey at one point. I don't know about anyone else on here but when I go to one of these places I really don't want to start kicking the shit with other mongers, that's why I never decided to check out CR (del rey) Mongering in Panama city has gone downhill, there use to be plenty of women to choose from and so little mongers. To me, veneto is just like the del rey, Costa rica, but double the price! Sad to see veneto/habanos go down the shitter.[/QUOTE]Snipps, I know you and I have kind of been waying in on Panama over the last few months and we pretty much agree. I am surprised you went back but I too got suckered into going back a few times last year also swore I wouldn't go back again. There is that yearning for the good ole days that I guess draws us. I almost found myself wanting to try it again but I am glad I read your post. It just clarifies what I knew but sometimes choose to ignore. The quality is WAY down. The clock watching is WAY up. Some guys are quoting finding $80 for an hour. I am not doubting that but I do not want to even see what type of quality they are talking about. Lately there are about 2-3 girls who are 9's and the last time I was there My friend and I watched one of them leave and come back with 5 different johns over the course of two hours. They are getting run through. 5 years ago the GFE was incredible there was no hour. TLN was standard. Now it just doesn't exist. Or maybe it does but only with a 3 or 4. The only thing that has improved somewhat is the service, but everything else including traffic, noise, heat, laws, gringo tourism et has gotten worse. The last night I am there I also ended up feeling grimey. I get the same feeling in Costa Rica but for the value your just better off at the Del rey. I suppose if I had a lay over for a night or there was some outrageous special on a flight to PTY I would journey back but your post is spot on. Things aint the same in good ole Panama.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1263006]Snipps, I know you and I have kind of been waying in on Panama over the last few months and we pretty much agree. I am surprised you went back but I too got suckered into going back a few times last year also swore I wouldn't go back again. There is that yearning for the good ole days that I guess draws us. I almost found myself wanting to try it again but I am glad I read your post. It just clarifies what I knew but sometimes choose to ignore. The quality is WAY down. The clock watching is WAY up. Some guys are quoting finding $80 for an hour. I am not doubting that but I do not want to even see what type of quality they are talking about. Lately there are about 2-3 girls who are 9's and the last time I was there My friend and I watched one of them leave and come back with 5 different johns over the course of two hours. They are getting run through. 5 years ago the GFE was incredible there was no hour. TLN was standard. Now it just doesn't exist. Or maybe it does but only with a 3 or 4. The only thing that has improved somewhat is the service, but everything else including traffic, noise, heat, laws, gringo tourism et has gotten worse. The last night I am there I also ended up feeling grimey. I get the same feeling in Costa Rica but for the value your just better off at the Del rey. I suppose if I had a lay over for a night or there was some outrageous special on a flight to PTY I would journey back but your post is spot on. Things aint the same in good ole Panama.[/QUOTE]Mfin, you hit it spot on. I did get suckerd in, and I too choose to ignore. I wanted to go back and see for myself. I just couldn't believe what I was seeing. This one girl I met claimed she was in pty city for only 2 days, she was about 8-9. Only looker around on a Thursday night, I got her down to 100 from an asking price of 175. I offered to take her out to dinner relax and have a drink. She told me straight up that is a waste of time for me, I need to make money. I passed on her. I saw her come up and down that elevator about 4 times that night with all different types of johns. The rest of the 10 women were not attractive at all and looked like used robots. 20 guys staring at 10-15 girls.

I am good friends with a couple of the taxi guys out front and they make fun at us johns who end up sleeping with these girls because they know its all business and all mechanical. I will admit Sat night was the best night and veneto had about 5 8-9s but you had to grab them early before someone else did. Crazy. I had better time gambling and winning money than searching. Can you imagine!

[QUOTE=Snipps; 1263228]Mfin, you hit it spot on. I did get suckerd in, and I too choose to ignore. I wanted to go back and see for myself. I just couldn't believe what I was seeing. This one girl I met claimed she was in pty city for only 2 days, she was about 8-9. Only looker around on a Thursday night, I got her down to 100 from an asking price of 175. I offered to take her out to dinner relax and have a drink. She told me straight up that is a waste of time for me, I need to make money. I passed on her. I saw her come up and down that elevator about 4 times that night with all different types of johns. The rest of the 10 women were not attractive at all and looked like used robots. 20 guys staring at 10-15 girls.

I am good friends with a couple of the taxi guys out front and they make fun at us johns who end up sleeping with these girls because they know its all business and all mechanical. I will admit Sat night was the best night and veneto had about 5 8-9s but you had to grab them early before someone else did. Crazy. I had better time gambling and winning money than searching. Can you imagine![/QUOTE]Used robots. Hahahahahh- that cracks me up. How was the carrott law. Did it effect things at all

[QUOTE=Mfins;1263692]Used robots. Hahahahahh- that cracks me up. How was the carrott law. Did it effect things at all[/QUOTE]Not really, on Friday and Saturday veneto bar stopped serving drinks at 230, half our before 3am closing. The other nights at 130am before 2am closing. At that time they were still women hanging around, but those were the ugly ones and basically the women that have been walking the casino for the past 3-4 hours. I went to check out asche and habonos at that time as well and it was dead. You need to go at about 8pm, thats when you have more of a variety. Basically you had to find a women between 8pm-11pm in veneto. The used robots hang around during bar closing time. LOL

Does anyone know of a poker room other than the veneto and majestic.

Played alot at veneto in 2009 but rules were not enforced as buddies passing money from thier stack to on another, specificailly the asians and the 2 greeks did what they wanted whenever looking at peoples cards in the dead hand pile. Dealers and management never did anything about. Makes for a shit game. Or did cleanup thier act. Still 5-5 game or do they now have 1-2.

Also how about Managua, enjoyed playing at the del rey and colonial in sj.

Also how about Lima, I know wrong thread

[QUOTE=WaterTraveller; 1264611]Does anyone know of a poker room other than the veneto and majestic.

Played alot at veneto in 2009 but rules were not enforced as buddies passing money from thier stack to on another, specificailly the asians and the 2 greeks did what they wanted whenever looking at peoples cards in the dead hand pile. Dealers and management never did anything about. Makes for a shit game. Or did cleanup thier act. Still 5-5 game or do they now have 1-2.

Also how about Managua, enjoyed playing at the del rey and colonial in sj.

Also how about Lima, I know wrong thread[/QUOTE]Casinos in Managua suck for the most part in my opinion.

Thanks for the input about Panama city guys, I liked it there before. No big hurry to return, used to go to San Jose and venture out to Panama. Lived there 8 months. In my rookie days with limited Spanish I have pulled decent chicks out of the veneto for 40-50$ for the rest of the nite, pretty proud of that. I'm very fussy. Also from the bocas terrana, you just need to have a lot of time to find a good one. Which I have, I usually go for 2-3 months. Will agree San Jose is good bang for your buck, new Fantasy and Zona Blue, now little Habana were very good 5 years ago, but I like going to the 25$ an hour places that I call" down the hill" from the Del Rey. I've had a couple dealers and waitresses from blue marlin and delrey, but sure had to do my ground work first. Tennis at Parque Sabana, Jazz Cafe, Castro's Discotheque. Like 1 post mentioned would love to go back for old times sake, but out of nicaragua (I like fenix there, had the 2 best young ones there for 50 tln, alternate between the 2) Costa Rica.

And Panama I would only revisit San Jose, just a little too far from my beach place Manuel Antonio.

My new destination is now Habana Cuba, I love it, spent 4. 5 months last year and will spend another 4 this year with a side trip to Lima. Just for all you guys out there that don't have alot of money to spend trips, to Latin American countries and casas de putas doesn't have to costs thousands of dollars, I used to go to above mentioned places party all nite, gamble, tanned bitches for about 5000 a month. Go crazy in the city for a week then chill at a beach place for a week or so and do it all over again. All you need is a phrase book and learn as you go, and be polite to the right ones and tell the others f-k off politely.

Someone mentioned about knowing Spanish and doesn't need to go to casas anymore, that's where I'm at, but still like to go.

Good luck and for people who want to go to Latin countries and are hesitant, do it, go make mistakes, then laugh about it, and try not to make the same ones. Was funny, forgot to mention I'm now 51 year balding but in pretty good shape, started touring 12 years ago 4 months a year with no Spanish.

Have fun, and remember you don't need a million bucks

I am looking for some up date information. Other than the Veneto and Habano's are there any other good places to go in the city?

Sounds like the city has gone down hill. Are there any other good hotel bars or clubs for non working ladies or locals?

I am going to be there the week of the 16th of April.

Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.

Thanks

Short report on yesterday action.

Ashe was CLOSED, nearly all of avenida Uruguay was dark.

Habanos was deserted around 22:00 hrs, saw 3 girls.

Veneto had no crap table open. Only one roulette and at some point while the band was playing around 22:30 only one black jack.

A few girls but the ratio m / f was overwhelmingly against the males. To make matters worst two things happened around 23:15.

Must have been a plane load of mongers that descended on the Veneto. I would venture to say that around 40 to 50 guys showed up en masse and livened-up the place a bit.

But unfortunately there must have been a rich party being organized in one of the suites cause I saw one local guy with a Panamanian hat hanging around the escalator, chatting the pretty ladies and as a group (a dozen of the most charming ones) and just as the plane load of tourists arrived, the girls ascended and disappeared for the rest of the night.

Ahhhhh well. Somebody had fun.

Enjoy.

Mellow

I arrived at the Veneto early and was impressed by the set up, nice room on the 8th floor, easy access to lifts from Casino and the food in the restaurant was good. It was a little strange wandering round the casino at 8pm there were just a few men playing blackjack and a few hookers hinding between machines giving the eye. Didn't see much that I liked and one black half brazilian half somehting else kept hassling me, nice tits but poor face and so after a while I was bored with playing the slot machines. I headed onto Habanos and there were three nice Colombian girls, one who looked young jailbait, and I managed to bring over a paisa, Daisy. She was lovely, nice tits, lovely face and legs and with that sexy paisa accent. Started off with $150 eventually got her to $100 but with no BBBJ, Desite my disapointment but insistence on BBBJ headed over to Le Palace as last time had not spent more than 5 minutes there. Was immiedately accossed by a "Mona" from Manizales, not my type but she disapppered to join in THE show. What a sight the show is, all the girls, must be 40 of them, form a U curve across the club and dance sexily from 1 side to the other showing their fine figures. If one was a millionaire you could spend it there in 5 minutes such as the lovely sight. Worth popping in to see the show.

I was surprised the place was full and if you have the money and want a sexy girl you cannot go wrong here, there are many many foxy girls, the best in Panama. After being pestered by some chicas with plastic tits I asked the barman for a negra or darker skin girl. Well there wasnt a negra but there was a slightly lighter Beyonce type girl, Evelyn, with wicked eyes 5 10" slim drop dead gorgeous.

Well I found out that they only do topless dances in Le Palace unlike Elite and you can't touch but just the sight of her I had to pay $30 for a dance, she was just so supermodel.

We discussed takeout for some time and I was dying to take her back and fuck her despite the high price $350 for two hours, but I didn't have enough money on me which probably was just as well. I might go back these girls are once in lifetime, and how many black girls look like Beyonce?

Anyway passed by Habanos on the way back to Veneto and it was busy now but decided to try my luck back at the Veneto as it was now 11pm. When I got there I was astounded it was full on party with a live band the place was full and there must have been 100 chicas. Now I don't pretend they were all 10s and many were just average but there were a few ones worth a pop, I got hit on by a Limeña who was kinda cute but I wasnt out for a blondie so kept pn looking. There was a girl with enermous tits at the bar that I almost took but as I looked around and avoided the ugly black brazilian girl I caught sight of a darkish skinned thin girl at the slot machines who looked maybe a bit panamian. After wasting so much tiime all night chatting I took no time with a few words whats your name and how much to fuck you for an hour. She started with $100 and I quicly said $80 which she accepted straight away. She agreed to kissing BBBJ no anal so off we went up to the room, must have been 2 minutes from my first words to us going in the the elevator. She was Colombian from Medellin (probably) and she had a smoking bod and great attitude with lots of nice kisses and DFK. The best part was her BBBJ, she had a technique of blowing cold air before putting me in her warm mouth, incredible. Physically not to everybodys taste (but I'm very open minded on trying all chicks not just caucasian type colombians) but great performance and I had scored and on the cheap.

Fucked her tight pussy for a while and was ready to go downstairs to pick another chick to come up but reminded myself that I had an early flight to catch otherwsie I would have been there all night. Apparently there are girls there until 7 in the morning so you could sleep for a while and go back down and score again Que tal?

Overall was impressed with the Veneto, all the hookers you want in your hotel and gambling too, its a mans paradise. If you don't like something there Oasis girls is just down the street, Habanos is round the corner or if you want top pussy and have the money Le Palace is just two blocks across the main road. You could do worse than stay here.

I haven't been to Costa Rica yet but for people who haven't been to Panama come and stay at the Veneto its a blast.

Is there a push button motel near the airport that supplies ladies?

This is common in other countries but I have not seen it in Panama. My flight arrives late so stopping at a pushbutton for a rest is a good routine before heading to Santiago. One with extras would be a nice addition.

OT

[QUOTE=Ocean Traveler; 1270364]Is there a push button motel near the airport that supplies ladies?

This is common in other countries but I have not seen it in Panama. My flight arrives late so stopping at a pushbutton for a rest is a good routine before heading to Santiago. One with extras would be a nice addition.

OT[/QUOTE]There are several push button motels on Transistmica where it it crosses Tumba Muerto (Ricardo J. Alfaro). This is between the airport and downtown, maybe about half way, if you're taking the slower northern route. I don't know if they will supply ladies. You could go to Golden Time, which is on Ricardo J. Alfaro, around 4 miles towards downtown from the love motels, and bring one back. Damage would be around $140 for an hour and a half.

You're probably going to get lost if you're driving, regardless of whether you do as I suggest above or stay downtown in Cangrejo. If you're pressed for time and would like to avoid day time traffic, then you might want to forget about the hookers, take Corredor Sur (the southern route with the toll road). After you're maybe about 30 miles west of the city you'll see a well-marked love motel on your left where you can crash. I've done that before, but didn't think to ask if they had women. Or if you're exhausted, there's a hotel just outside the airport- the Riande Aeropuerto.

I have also used that trick. It is one of the best kept secrets of Panama.

When my flight arrives after midnight the most direct route to sleep is a push button near the airport.

The total noches price is around $12 and it is an excellent nap before the long drive out of town.

I learned the trick after getting a flat tire on the way into the city to catch a flight. After changing the tire, I was dirty, sweaty and in no shape to catch a flight. In short, I needed a place to clean up so I checked into a push button somewhere north of PC. While checking in I noticed the "total noches $12" sign and it hit me. I could catch a few hours sleep after arriving in the middle of the night.

Having said that, a good night adjustment wouldn't be all bad.

OT

OT, This should go in the Monger Great Ideas Hall of Fame. I've spent some sleepless nights in rooms along the Panamerican Highway and in Cangrejo because of lousy air conditioning or too much street noise. Looking back, I probably would have gotten a better night's sleep in a notel. I guess for the budget monger the price is an added bonus. And there's no walk of shame! Management never even sees your date, so if you're into fatties or grannies or whatever the world will never know. Contrast with my experience at a cheap hotel on Espana in Panama City, when I brought two hookers back to the hotel, one of whom know the bellman. The bellman thought it would be funny to walk in our room and rapidly flip the light switch on and off while laughing like a crazy person, while his colleague looked on from outside.

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1268092]I arrived at the Veneto early and was impressed by the set up, nice room on the 8th floor, easy access to lifts from Casino and the food in the restaurant was good. It was a little strange wandering round the casino at 8pm there were just a few men playing blackjack and a few hookers hinding between machines giving the eye. Didn't see much that I liked and one black half brazilian half somehting else kept hassling me, nice tits but poor face and so after a while I was bored with playing the slot machines. I headed onto Habanos and there were three nice Colombian girls, one who looked young jailbait, and I managed to bring over a paisa, Daisy. She was lovely, nice tits, lovely face and legs and with that sexy paisa accent. Started off with $150 eventually got her to $100 but with no BBBJ, Desite my disapointment but insistence on BBBJ headed over to Le Palace as last time had not spent more than 5 minutes there. Was immiedately accossed by a "Mona" from Manizales, not my type but she disapppered to join in THE show. What a sight the show is, all the girls, must be 40 of them, form a U curve across the club and dance sexily from 1 side to the other showing their fine figures. If one was a millionaire you could spend it there in 5 minutes such as the lovely sight. Worth popping in to see the show.

I was surprised the place was full and if you have the money and want a sexy girl you cannot go wrong here, there are many many foxy girls, the best in Panama. After being pestered by some chicas with plastic tits I asked the barman for a negra or darker skin girl. Well there wasnt a negra but there was a slightly lighter Beyonce type girl, Evelyn, with wicked eyes 5 10" slim drop dead gorgeous.

Well I found out that they only do topless dances in Le Palace unlike Elite and you can't touch but just the sight of her I had to pay $30 for a dance, she was just so supermodel.

We discussed takeout for some time and I was dying to take her back and fuck her despite the high price $350 for two hours, but I didn't have enough money on me which probably was just as well. I might go back these girls are once in lifetime, and how many black girls look like Beyonce?

Anyway passed by Habanos on the way back to Veneto and it was busy now but decided to try my luck back at the Veneto as it was now 11pm. When I got there I was astounded it was full on party with a live band the place was full and there must have been 100 chicas. Now I don't pretend they were all 10s and many were just average but there were a few ones worth a pop, I got hit on by a Limeña who was kinda cute but I wasnt out for a blondie so kept pn looking. There was a girl with enermous tits at the bar that I almost took but as I looked around and avoided the ugly black brazilian girl I caught sight of a darkish skinned thin girl at the slot machines who looked maybe a bit panamian. After wasting so much tiime all night chatting I took no time with a few words whats your name and how much to fuck you for an hour. She started with $100 and I quicly said $80 which she accepted straight away. She agreed to kissing BBBJ no anal so off we went up to the room, must have been 2 minutes from my first words to us going in the the elevator. She was Colombian from Medellin (probably) and she had a smoking bod and great attitude with lots of nice kisses and DFK. The best part was her BBBJ, she had a technique of blowing cold air before putting me in her warm mouth, incredible. Physically not to everybodys taste (but I'm very open minded on trying all chicks not just caucasian type colombians) but great performance and I had scored and on the cheap.

Fucked her tight pussy for a while and was ready to go downstairs to pick another chick to come up but reminded myself that I had an early flight to catch otherwsie I would have been there all night. Apparently there are girls there until 7 in the morning so you could sleep for a while and go back down and score again Que tal?

Overall was impressed with the Veneto, all the hookers you want in your hotel and gambling too, its a mans paradise. If you don't like something there Oasis girls is just down the street, Habanos is round the corner or if you want top pussy and have the money Le Palace is just two blocks across the main road. You could do worse than stay here.

I haven't been to Costa Rica yet but for people who haven't been to Panama come and stay at the Veneto its a blast.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report LH, but maybe you had a lucky night there. It was not like that when I went, and I was there for 4 nights. Never saw women hanging out till 7am. Latest was 2-3am and total working women in the casino on any given night was about 20-30. Sucked

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I haven't been to Costa Rica yet but for people who haven't been to Panama come and stay at the Veneto its a blast.[/QUOTE]You'll find the girl action at the Hotel Del Rey much better and easier to find a girl with a personality. Casino is not the best, but there's the Horseshoe and Intercontinental Casino nearby.

Just curious: I see these promotional models pushing various products at concerts, discos, expositions, whatever events around town. They seem to be mostly colombianas, though I know many are panameñas. Anybody know if they are available for "personal" gigs? I'd love to hear some first hand experiences.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1271213]You'll find the girl action at the Hotel Del Rey much better and easier to find a girl with a personality. Casino is not the best, but there's the Horseshoe and Intercontinental Casino nearby.[/QUOTE]You are probably correct, however I think all the negativity recently surrounding Panama City is misplaced. Sure there are better places such as DR and CR but there arent many places in the world, US and UK included, where you can stay at a hotel with a casino and have hookers basically in the lobby. And if that isn't enough theres Habanos round the corner or the clubs like Elite. Obviously for budget mongerers its more expensive than Colombia etc but I live in Bogota, theres nowhere like the Veneto or Habanos. So for me it was cool. And I scored well for $80 in the Veneto, maybe not 10s but then getting a hot 10 doesn't always mean a good service, I found that out in London.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1271021]Thanks for the report LH, but maybe you had a lucky night there. It was not like that when I went, and I was there for 4 nights. Never saw women hanging out till 7am. Latest was 2-3am and total working women in the casino on any given night was about 20-30. Sucked[/QUOTE]I don't know, I didn't stay until 7am thats only a comment from the girl that there are girls still at 7am, and just like a nightclub you're not going to find the best looking chicks still hanging around at 7am. As for 20-30 there were way more than that, my last visit last week confirmed it. Maybe you went around Easter when it was quiet?

There about 20 hookers just in the bar area. I counted about 60 last visit, and you should be able to find one girl among 60, if not go to Habanos. They come and go all the time so the numbers are constantly changing.

I've been to places that suck, I wouldn't say Veneto is one of them.

And you know if you don't like it don't go, but this forum is for giving information as well as recommendations. That doesn't mean recommend Panama over Costa Rica it just means advising members whats on offer in PC and giving a personal opinion. Its up to members to decide where they want to go. Personally I would love to go to DR and CR but I happen to be in PC for business often so its my mongering destination at the moment. Go to Esmeraldas in David, thats the dictionary definition of "it sucks".

[QUOTE=Love Handler;1272677]Go to Esmeraldas in David, thats the dictionary definition of "it sucks".[/QUOTE]Love Handler, you are so dead on, Brother. Esmeraldas in the city of David is the pure definition of what really 'sucks' in this Hobby, having unfortunately experienced it recently myself (Field Reports under the appropriate thread having already been duly turned in). I also have FR's covering current visits to Veneto's within the last couple of months, but continue to read derogatory comments from a handful of fellow punters about this venue in particular, and PTY in general, with growing puzzlement.

I'm not one to indulge in any flame wars on the internet, and certainly not about to change my ways for this site. I will also admit my mongering in PTY is fairly limited to only 3 trips to this city in the last 18 months or so. But Christ, Fellas, I don't believe ANYONE is claiming it's the next Macau, Pattaya, or even Manila. And I think it's been fairly well established by now there are several Latin countries where mongering can arguably be better (Perhaps CR, DR, Brazil, Columbia-Secret Service Issues not with standing, and probably up-and-coming is Lima) But many of us must travel to PTY for work and this can be a very nice and interesting place to easily find some diversion with our hobby. Perhaps Veneto, Habanos or PTY in general no longer live up to the epic accounts of years ago remembered by a handful of more experienced Panama mongering pros. But for some of us, the constant, almost bitter put-downs just seem a bit over the top at times. Can we lighten up a little here Guys?

There, I feel all better now.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1270785]OT, This should go in the Monger Great Ideas Hall of Fame. I've spent some sleepless nights in rooms along the Panamerican Highway and in Cangrejo because of lousy air conditioning or too much street noise. Looking back, I probably would have gotten a better night's sleep in a notel. I guess for the budget monger the price is an added bonus.[/QUOTE]Ja Ja Ja, Tiny 12, budget has nothing to do with it! It is a function of miles and experience.

As my football coach buddy says: "Do more of what works and less of what doesn't."

When I arrive late and have to travel into the Interior early, I don't want lose 3-hours of sleep solving a simple problem.

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1272702]Love Handler, you are so dead on, Brother. Esmeraldas in the city of David is the pure definition of what really 'sucks' in this Hobby, having unfortunately experienced it recently myself (Field Reports under the appropriate thread having already been duly turned in). I also have FR's covering current visits to Veneto's within the last couple of months, but continue to read derogatory comments from a handful of fellow punters about this venue in particular, and PTY in general, with growing puzzlement.

I'm not one to indulge in any flame wars on the internet, and certainly not about to change my ways for this site. I will also admit my mongering in PTY is fairly limited to only 3 trips to this city in the last 18 months or so. But Christ, Fellas, I don't believe ANYONE is claiming it's the next Macau, Pattaya, or even Manila. And I think it's been fairly well established by now there are several Latin countries where mongering can arguably be better (Perhaps CR, DR, Brazil, Columbia-Secret Service Issues not with standing, and probably up-and-coming is Lima) But many of us must travel to PTY for work and this can be a very nice and interesting place to easily find some diversion with our hobby. Perhaps Veneto, Habanos or PTY in general no longer live up to the epic accounts of years ago remembered by a handful of more experienced Panama mongering pros. But for some of us, the constant, almost bitter put-downs just seem a bit over the top at times. Can we lighten up a little here Guys?

There, I feel all better now.[/QUOTE]Rippa, You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Allow me to explain. I consider myself a Panama Vet. In the last 6 years or so I have been over 100 times. Maybe 150. Place used to be so good I was flying from Florida to PTY almost every weekend. Girls were cheaper. Tourists and mongers were non existent. So was the traffic. Girls were Todo la Noche always. Actually more like todo la fin de semana. It was new fun and hip. Now its just played out. Laws changed, tourism changed, there are hotel guest fees, taxis ALL charge the gringo tax now, Shit even the weather seems hotter somehow. Word got out and the masses came and ruined it. Basically what I am saying is PTY was Atlantis-paradise-heaven. It has gone from a 10 to about a 6 or 7. Right in line with the quality and attitude of the girls. So why are some of the so called Panama Vets dogging the country. Well you nailed it. We are disgusted to see the downswing. It just isn't the same. Trust me there are worse places than PTY. There are not many places in the world with a casino, a bar, and putas all under one roof. It is vegas but with looser laws and hookers out in the open but it just used to be sooooo much better than it is now and it sickens me. If someone asked me to go to Panama or pretty much any US city all expenses paid I would say Panama in a heart beat and if someone is travelling there for business or a convention or to meet friends by all means. But, there are better mongering options out there now and for my money I will no longer choose Panama.

Can anyone recommend a daytime massage place in El Dorado?

There used to be a quality operation right across the street from the Do-It Center on the same block as TGI Fridays.

It moved over a year ago and I have not found a replacement. They opened around 10 AM and charged $80 for an hour.

Club Miami just doesn't compare.

Thanks,

OT

New to this side of things. I've been back tracking in the Panama posts, I'm trying to find a girl friendly hotel in Panama City for around $50-$65 range. Anyone can help me with this, or know a good place to stay. I"ve seen a few on my own, but don't know what's good and what's bad.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn;1272629]Just curious: I see these promotional models pushing various products at concerts, discos, expositions, whatever events around town. They seem to be mostly colombianas, though I know many are panameñas. Anybody know if they are available for "personal" gigs? I'd love to hear some first hand experiences.[/QUOTE]In my personal experience, some of them ARE available. But they limit themselves (some of them) to known people or referred from someone know them, as in Panama the saying goes, Small Town, Big Hell. Almost everyone knows or at least suspects who is in the "entertainment business", so these girls have to be extra careful

[QUOTE=Ocean Traveler; 1270706]I have also used that trick. It is one of the best kept secrets of Panama.

When my flight arrives after midnight the most direct route to sleep is a push button near the airport.

The total noches price is around $12 and it is an excellent nap before the long drive out of town.

I learned the trick after getting a flat tire on the way into the city to catch a flight. After changing the tire, I was dirty, sweaty and in no shape to catch a flight. In short, I needed a place to clean up so I checked into a push button somewhere north of PC. While checking in I noticed the "total noches $12" sign and it hit me. I could catch a few hours sleep after arriving in the middle of the night.

Having said that, a good night adjustment wouldn't be all bad.

OT[/QUOTE]Toda la noche for $12? I'm a local and I haven't seen a single Push with that price! Please recall the name! As far as I know $12 will get you 2 hours!

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1276478]Toda la noche for $12? I'm a local and I haven't seen a single Push with that price! Please recall the name! As far as I know $12 will get you 2 hours![/QUOTE]The first time I saw that offer it was in Penonome (?) around 2-years ago and you had to check in after midnight.

I have used the push button on the right when heading toward the City from PTY. I think it has a goofy name like Arabian Nights. The price may be a little higher, I don't remember since it has been 6-months since I used this trick but you also must check-in after midnight or something like that.

Remember, it is a targeted trick particularly helpful when arriving at the airport late at night and headed into the interior the next day. If you have business in the city, delay your sleep a check into a "real hotel".

I will be back in town soon and will try to get the names. Specifics are always the most helpful.

OT

Gentlemen,

What's the going rate for TLNs, TLDs and for 24 hour deals? Are there take-out fees or multas if I want to take a girl out for a night or 24, 48, 72 hours?

Thanks for all comments.

Lucky Strike

Someone here mentioned Lima as "up and coming." I've been mongering in Lima for several years now and it is still one of the best-kept secrets in Latin America, but mostly for the "semi-pro" action. You can pretty much have almost any girl you see on the street, especially those college girls who desperately need book money. I have to go to Panama on business this month but if I had my druthers I'd be heading to Lima.

Last time I was in Costa Rica I was VERY disappointed by how it had changed from just a few years back. Used to be the Blue Marlin wasn't like a sardine can with 10 guys for every girl and the girls never charged more than $60. Those golden years.

Last (and first) time I was in Panama I was with a gf, so no mongering action. This time will be different. I'm staying at the Veneto and basically like what I'm reading about it on the Forum. I have two questions, though, answers I can't find here:

1) Is BBBJ the norm, or something that has to be negotiated and costs more, or simply nonexistent?

2) How does one get to Habano's from Veneto? Walking distance?

Thanks much for your answers in advance, guys, and I'll be sure to post reports from the scene. I'll be there 5/19-26.

[QUOTE=Doc Bill; 1277889]Someone here mentioned Lima as "up and coming." I've been mongering in Lima for several years now and it is still one of the best-kept secrets in Latin America, but mostly for the "semi-pro" action. You can pretty much have almost any girl you see on the street, especially those college girls who desperately need book money. I have to go to Panama on business this month but if I had my druthers I'd be heading to Lima.

Last time I was in Costa Rica I was VERY disappointed by how it had changed from just a few years back. Used to be the Blue Marlin wasn't like a sardine can with 10 guys for every girl and the girls never charged more than $60. Those golden years.

Last (and first) time I was in Panama I was with a gf, so no mongering action. This time will be different. I'm staying at the Veneto and basically like what I'm reading about it on the Forum. I have two questions, though, answers I can't find here:

1) Is BBBJ the norm, or something that has to be negotiated and costs more, or simply nonexistent?

2) How does one get to Habano's from Veneto? Walking distance?

Thanks much for your answers in advance, guys, and I'll be sure to post reports from the scene. I'll be there 5/19-26.[/QUOTE]Hey Doc,

That was me that mentioned Lima. I've only been there as a 'civilian', most recently just a few weeks ago. God, do I love the food there! Wish I could indulge in our little hobby, and see MANY fine looking little 'hotties' walking around EVERYWHERE, but have not yet had the chance. I based my comment on the many good things I'm reading and hearing from friends and lucky F*ckers like you who have dallied with the Peruanas!

Anyway, to answer your questions based on MY experiences in Panama City:

1) BJs are 'standard' with the Habano / Veneto chicas, no up sell, but usually covered. However, I have also had Columbianas go BBBJ as well. Doesn't hurt to ask up front. You didn't inquire, but anal has been available as well at times, but admittedly for an upgrade.

2) Yes, Habanos is easily walkable from the Veneto. Maybe 5-10 minutes and I've walked it late at night. Just use your 'Big City Senses' if you know what I mean. Ask any of the drivers hanging out in front of the Veneto for directions. BTW, don't use those 'fancy car' drivers out front unless you need a really nice 'ride' somewhere. They can get pricey. Grab a yellow cab instead. They are inexpensive. Keep in mind if you pull a chica out of Habanos and wish to return to your room with her, you will need a cab then as she will most likely NOT fancy even a short 'hike' in her CFM heels! But don't use one of the 'gypsy cabs' in front of Habanos, either. They are rip-off scam artists and I've heard several horror stories about these cholos. Not to worry, however, as there are yellow cabs usually driving by right in front of the Lebanese restaurant across the street (fine food, open late BTW) or the Marriott Casino also directly in front of you. You'll see what I mean.

And while you're at it, why not branch out and see some of the other many wonderful things to experience in PTY? It might be just what the 'Doctor' ordered. RTFF for some other great possibilities, all up and down the quality / price scale. And PM me if you could use a recommendation for a couple of good, reasonably priced cabbie / guides. These guys are fellow 'Punters' and know our 'needs'.

Don't forget those Field Reports upon your return, and get Wild, Roar, Run With Scissors!

- Rippa

[QUOTE=Doc Bill;1277889]2) How does one get to Habano's from Veneto? Walking distance?[/QUOTE]It is walking distance. See Fantasy's map for how to get there: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1894-Panama-City&p=624256#post624256[/url]

Anybody know if any of these motels are available in downtown PC, as sometimes a visit to the hotel is not possible.

Any recommendations?

I don't know if Riu Plaza is girl friendly and if they charge extra

[QUOTE=Tiny 12; 1278315]It is walking distance. See Fantasy's map for how to get there:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1894-Panama-City&p=624256#post624256[/url][/QUOTE]Its a ten-fifteen minute walk from Veneto to Habanos, but why walk it in the scorching heat or rain inhaling car fumes the entire time. By the time you get to Habanos your dripping in sweat and smell like you have been sucking on a tale pipe. Its a $3 cab fare. $4-$5 with the gringo tax and cabs are Everywhere! No offense but Are we that cheap guys!

Also, I was in Lima once. Went for 4 days granted I had an awful cold the whole time but I didn't like it all that much. Hotel charged a huge chica fee ($50) and it was hard to find all the semi pros I had heard about. Went to Tequila Rocks and thought that was cool but no different than Habanos or Veneto in PTY. I didn't use Davids service as I like to feel out the product before I buy but perhaps I should have. Maybe I just didn't do it right but it was a little over rated and not much different than PTY for me.

Mfins. You did everything wrong in Lima. Next time ask me first. First you had a cold, then you stayed at a wrong hotel (apartments are the way to go there, even for short-term) , and Tequila Rocks sucks. Amateur hour. Just a stroll through the park or the mall or the department store and you will find all you could possibly want / need. Going rate is about S / 200, roughly $67 for a couple of hours. I've used David too and have not been disappointed. Now I just know his girls and contact them myself (which he is fine with).

Guys, thanks for the info on getting to Habanos. Clearly a cab is the way to go, although I probably shouldn't take one right outside of Veneto. On the other hand, it seems like I might find all I need right there at my hotel. But I'll branch out, just for you, Rippa!

Thanks all!

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1278743]Its a ten-fifteen minute walk from Veneto to Habanos, but why walk it in the scorching heat or rain inhaling car fumes the entire time. By the time you get to Habanos your dripping in sweat and smell like you have been sucking on a tale pipe. Its a $3 cab fare. $4-$5 with the gringo tax and cabs are Everywhere! No offense but Are we that cheap guys!
[/QUOTE]If I walk straight through, it's a 5 or 10 minute walk for me, never in the scorching heat (since it's at night) and if there's rain I have sense to take a taxi, for which I might pay $2 or $3. But I'll typically check out any streetwalkers on Via Veneto, maybe look into Oasis or a strip club, or stop by the casino at El Panama or the Riande Continental, all of which are on the way, kind of. I might continue on, walking, to Le Palace, or even Elite and the clubs on Calle Uruguay. No offense, but Are we that lazy and out of shape guys!

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1278660]Anybody know if any of these motels are available in downtown PC, as sometimes a visit to the hotel is not possible.

Any recommendations?

I don't know if Riu Plaza is girl friendly and if they charge extra[/QUOTE]I've read here about one place downtown but don't remember the name. Maybe someone will chime in. I've used Hotel Montreal for that purpose, but it's not cheap, around $40. I've stayed at the Riu. They were anal about getting my younger girlfriend to check in and provide her I. D. Although they're reputedly not girl friendly, I did see three or four women with older male gentlemen that I thought were hookers in the place, and they get a lot of traffic through the lobby. My guess is that you won't have a problem if your date is dressed reasonably well. If she's dressed like a **** and you're coming back at 3:00 AM when the place is deserted then you likely will.

I visited an old standby last weekend: River Club.

I hadn't been in years, and it's still the same: $70 for an hour in a room with a dumpy bed but a clean bath with a hot shower. I had a very friendly, blondish, curvy paisa. She had a couple extra pounds, but ample natural titties. She started with a BBBJ, which I found surprising. Enjoyable experience all around.

To me it's a poor man's Golden Time, but I appreciate its proximity and reasonable privacy: no hoardes of strip mall patrons to gawk at you entering the brothel.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1279049]If I walk straight through, it's a 5 or 10 minute walk for me, never in the scorching heat (since it's at night) and if there's rain I have sense to take a taxi, for which I might pay $2 or $3. But I'll typically check out any streetwalkers on Via Veneto, maybe look into Oasis or a strip club, or stop by the casino at El Panama or the Riande Continental, all of which are on the way, kind of. I might continue on, walking, to Le Palace, or even Elite and the clubs on Calle Uruguay. No offense, but Are we that lazy and out of shape guys![/QUOTE]It is certainly all wakable very true. And I for one am very lazy especially on vacation and after I have some beer in me. Can hit all those places and save the sweating, for about $5. 00.

But too each his own! We all have different tastes.

The cabs in front of Veneto are all safe. You won't have any problem, but like a prior poster said get in one of the yellow cabs on the street, not a fancy cab car or van they will charge you 5-10 times the normal rate. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Doc Bill; 1278829]Mfins. You did everything wrong in Lima. Next time ask me first. First you had a cold, then you stayed at a wrong hotel (apartments are the way to go there, even for short-term) , and Tequila Rocks sucks. Amateur hour. Just a stroll through the park or the mall or the department store and you will find all you could possibly want / need. Going rate is about S / 200, roughly $67 for a couple of hours. I've used David too and have not been disappointed. Now I just know his girls and contact them myself (which he is fine with).

Guys, thanks for the info on getting to Habanos. Clearly a cab is the way to go, although I probably shouldn't take one right outside of Veneto. On the other hand, it seems like I might find all I need right there at my hotel. But I'll branch out, just for you, Rippa!

Thanks all![/QUOTE]Doc- THanks. You know I am not a bad looking dude, and I hear from a lot of people talking about how they are able to find semi-pros in malls, parks et. Not just in Peru but other countries. Certainly I have seen pretty young girls in malls but, how to even approach them and ask if they are up for pay for play. I definately can play it cool but it seems as though it would take a lot of trying before you actually found one that is willing and able. Just seems like too much work to me, maybe I am missing something.

Hi all.

Is the Le Meridien Hotel chica friendly?

guys. i have been a lurker here for quite a while and i usually don't post much because i don't really have much to offer (sorry!). i have been to costa rica maybe 50 times and have a small house there, so i'm familiar at least with the way things are done there.

that being said, i've ready a ton of information on panama and i'm still lost as far as how to get a game plan together. can someone help me?

i am younger, and my idea of a 8, 9.10 is along the lines of the chicks in transformer movies or on the cover of playboy. thinner model types. i know that's relatively unrealistic, but can someone let me know if they only had 7 days in panama: 1) what is a good city, city-area and name of place to stay if you want to go to dance clubs but not get raped on price. 2) what are the places where the better looking working-girls go? and finally 3) is there a 24-hour bar place (like the del ray in costa rica or the strip clubs in colombia) where you can just head to at 3am if the night clubs don't produce free girls?

again, i've read all the posts here and i'm still feeling like i don't have a solid grasp on how things work here.

Mike, Colombia fits the bill better for what you describe than Panama. Medellin has hot, more professional (like hooker professional) women and is cheap. Cartagena has more of the 24 hour freelancer scene you're looking for and is more expensive. Most of the really hot, model looking professionals in Panama come from Colombia BTW.

If it's going to be Panama though, Calle Uruguay has a lot of clubs. You'd probably be staying in Cangrejo. Las Vegas Suites, Torres de Alba and Hotel Ejecutivo are in the general area and are among the cheaper, nice options. I've gotten a good deal at Plaza Paitilla, which is in the Punta Paitilla area, not Cangrejo, and if the traffic is bad it can be a little slow to get from there to the areas with the clubs and the hookers. Better looking freelancers go to Veneto Casino, Habano, and from some reports here to Club Ache. For the best looking professionals, who won't be freelancers, try Golden Time MP, which is an affordable option, and the strip clubs Le Palace and Elite, which are not affordable unless you line up something for the next day. Late night around 3 AM the selection isn't all that great. Maybe try the Veneto for freelancers or Golden Time for a MP.

There is nothing comparable to the Del Rey. The Veneto Casino maybe comes closest, but it's a poor substitute.

Veneto to Habanos is less than 2 blocks. If you are taking a taxi for $2-$5 for less than 2 blocks, I don't know what to say. I am disappointed to say the least.

I think nothing of tipping $1. Or even $2 if it's raining or if the taxi driver has sex with me without a condom. I know I'm running the price up and spoiling it for everyone else, but I don't care.

[QUOTE=Bobbybjack;1281224]Veneto to Habanos is less than 2 blocks. If you are taking a taxi for $2-$5 for less than 2 blocks, I don't know what to say. I am disappointed to say the least.[/QUOTE]I think your being sarcastic and I like your style but if not- for $3. 00 I am happy to pay a cab for a 5 minute ride, save the sweat, get some ac. Avoid getting hit by a car (as a pedestrian walking in the street) and with the way people in Panama drive getting hit and honked at is a very real possibility and not spill the beer I am carrying while walking.

It shocks me how cheap some people are on this forum. Not just the difference between walking and a cab because that is not a big deal and maybe some people like to walk but I mean to go all the way to a specifice country and just be a freakin cheap skate is pathetic. Don't over pay of course not. Don't accept $200 when $100 will do but is it worth haggling over $5 or $10 when the price gets to $100. Is $90 or $95 going to make you feel that much better. I can't tell you how many hot chicks have walked away over $10 or $20 and I thought I was making a stand. Turns out later that night and the next day I am kicking myself for being stubborn. Go to the market and haggle over trinkets thats normal, or make a deal with a girl and be assertive with what you want cool, but to nickle and dime and feel good that you saved $5 is non sense. A lot of Mongers say don't over pay it spoils the girls. TRUE but so does haggling over pennies. It makes them in the future start higher than normal and it hardens them up. Your on vacation have fun, you can pinch pennies at home. By the way, No disrespect to anyone on this board. Just my Opinion.

[quote=mikekelimir; 1279719]guys. i have been a lurker here for quite a while and i usually don't post much because i don't really have much to offer (sorry!). i have been to costa rica maybe 50 times and have a small house there, so i'm familiar at least with the way things are done there.

that being said, i've ready a ton of information on panama and i'm still lost as far as how to get a game plan together. can someone help me?

i am younger, and my idea of a 8, 9.10 is along the lines of the chicks in transformer movies or on the cover of playboy. thinner model types. i know that's relatively unrealistic, but can someone let me know if they only had 7 days in panama: 1) what is a good city, city-area and name of place to stay if you want to go to dance clubs but not get raped on price. 2) what are the places where the better looking working-girls go? and finally 3) is there a 24-hour bar place (like the del ray in costa rica or the strip clubs in colombia) where you can just head to at 3am if the night clubs don't produce free girls?

again, i've read all the posts here and i'm still feeling like i don't have a solid grasp on how things work here.[/quote]1. le palace. pack a very fat wallet. don't take out, set for afterwork.

2. venetto, habanos, ashe and la bodeguita.

3. no 24 hours, we are screwed with the carrot law, however, you can stock on some booze before hand, leave in your room, and you can come back when the law kicks in

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1281782]1. Le Palace. Pack a VERY FAT wallet. Don't take out, set for afterwork.

2. Venetto, Habanos, Ashe and La Bodeguita.

3. NO 24 hours, we are screwed with the Carrot Law, however, you can stock on some booze before hand, leave in your room, and you can come back when the law kicks in[/QUOTE]
Sorry for the double post. As for #1 on dance clubs, stay near calle uruguay area, that means, The Exexcutive, Venetto and its surroundings, Marriot. Best clubs / bars are in this area. If you feel that you are been ripped on the final tab, you can always check with the manager to verify the amount that is been billed. I.E beers would go around 3-4$ depending on club, drink might go between 5-9$ depending on club and liquor, bottles might range between $55 and up, depending on liquor

[QUOTE=GauntMan;1281954]Sorry for the double post. As for #1 on dance clubs, stay near calle uruguay area, that means, The Exexcutive, Venetto and its surroundings, Marriot. Best clubs / bars are in this area. If you feel that you are been ripped on the final tab, you can always check with the manager to verify the amount that is been billed. I.E beers would go around 3-4$ depending on club, drink might go between 5-9$ depending on club and liquor, bottles might range between $55 and up, depending on liquor[/QUOTE]To avoid problems with the final bill, it is best not to keep a running tab but to pay for drinks as you get them.

Remember: Drunken tourists with limited Spanish = padded checks!

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1281782]1. Le Palace. Pack a VERY FAT wallet. Don't take out, set for afterwork.

2. Venetto, Habanos, Ashe and La Bodeguita.

3. NO 24 hours, we are screwed with the Carrot Law, however, you can stock on some booze before hand, leave in your room, and you can come back when the law kicks in[/QUOTE]Hi when I was there a few weeks ago La Bodeguita was closed due to a shooting. Not sure if its still open. Anybody with any new updates of Veneto / Panama city. Was horrible when I went. Thanks

[QUOTE=Bobbybjack;1281224]Veneto to Habanos is less than 2 blocks. If you are taking a taxi for $2-$5 for less than 2 blocks, I don't know what to say. I am disappointed to say the least.[/QUOTE]Maybe when you're drunk it's two blocks, LOL. More in the four block range and having to cross the main thoroughfare on foot is taking your life in your own hands. Walk down a block from the Veneto and and pay no more that $2, you'll find a cab. I would tip a dollar anyway, but that's just me.

[quote=mikekelimir; 1279719]i've read a ton of information on panama and i'm still lost as far as how to get a game plan together. can someone help me?

i am younger, and my idea of a 8, 9.10 is along the lines of the chicks in transformer movies or on the. can someone let me know if they only had 7 days in panama: 1) what is a good city, city-area and name of place to stay if you want to go to dance clubs but not get raped on price. 2) what are the places where the better looking working-girls go? and finally 3) is there a 24-hour bar place (like the del ray in costa rica or the strip clubs in colombia) where you can just head to at 3am if the night clubs don't produce free girls?

again, i've read all the posts here and i'm still feeling like i don't have a solid grasp on how things work here.[/quote]you can have a very jazzy week in panama. if i were doing it, i would.

- arrive in the middle of the week and leave in the middle of the next week. that way you can session up front, rest & recover on sunday, and finish strong.

- drop the unrealistic expectations of playboy models and transformer movies. like sir-mix-alot said,"don't talk to me about playboy, because silicon parts are made for toys!" and you will not be able to bring your airbrush with you. there is no "photoshop" feature for ticas.

- get the best rate you can for the veneto hotel. it is like the del rey, but better. in that it is ground zero, chica friendly, the lunch specials in the casino cannot be beat, and the 7's. 8's, and 9's will hang out there in search of the guy that will pay them $150 for short time.

- that said, be adventurous. take a cab less than a mile away to the love hotel across from the hospital and the mall. los arcos. it has everything you need. clean room, comfortable bed, hot water, air con, three porn channels on the cable tv, sound proofing, mood lighting, mood music. for less than $40 a night, but it does not take reservations. you go, and if they have a vacant room, you got a room. otherwise, wait until one empties out. the most i have had to wait is 40 minutes. no chica fee. it is a love hotel. but absolutely no three ways, just couples! it is after all, a "family" joint, one where respectable middle class businessmen and salarymen bring their mistresses, or a married couple can escape an apartment full of inlaws and kids for a romantic afternoon or "date night", or young people can escape their families / college dorm / prying eyes (because they don't own cars). i have stayed there, but walked to the veneto neighborhoood to hang out. save money without crimping your style.

- avoid the taxis in front of the veneto or other 4-star hotel. expensive, and unless you are one of the nerds on "big bang theory", you don't need a mongering tour guide. but do avail yourself of an experienced wingman if you meet one. no taxi ride within town should cost more than $3 during the day, but i have paid $4-5 at night for that 7 mile trek from golden time / the fantastic casino / chinatown to veneto after 10pm.

- do check out habanos at night. if you are looking for "dimes" they will be there. usually they are colombian and have worked their way from the minor leagues to majors to the international circuit. they will ask for "cien" or more if you look like an atm.

- do check out the casino at veneto often, at different times of the night. it could be barren at 9:15pm, but full of great possibilities at 10:30pm.

- do take advantage of the diversity of restaurants: two excellent arab ones (one across the street from habanos) , a good cuban restaurant (and the other middle east restaurant) a block or two away from the river club and relax oriental mp's (both are dumps, but they are usually the gate way for new girls and i have found diamonds in the rough there several times) , and some excellent japanese and sushi places. the food court by the entry to the veneto has a little of everything, from inexpensive local lunches to subway!

- go to golden time. whether it will have a platoon of colombian 9's and 10's on duty from 7pm to 6am has much to do with hemispheric economic conditions, it is the best run mp in the time zone, and i have gone upstairs 90% of the time i have gone, and been very, very pleased 85% of the time i have gone upstairs. a couple of gt girls have become favoritas that i have continued to see outside of gt, even outside of panama. when you go, please have the cabby take you to the casino fantastic in el dorado / chinatown, go inside, wait for him to go away with another fare, and then walk up the hill and across the street to golden time. this will save you $10-30 dollars of "gringo tax" on you $84 dollar session at gt. go from the casino, to the taco bell / kfc, to the mcdonalds, cross the street to the church's fried chicken, and into the strip mall to gt. a blind man could do it with a dog, a cane, and a sense of smell for fast food.

- somebody please go to goldfingers about five blocks away and give a review. two blocks from the fant casino is miami club, a strip club with cabins in the back.

- both gt and mc are owned by expat chinese. if you can pass for chinese to a panamanian who can't tell the difference between a korean / japanese / singaporean you will get a huge asian discount, half off. just look asian, speak accented but halting spanish, and dress like a local.

- try the oasis mp on the same street as the veneto. go to their web site and print out their coupons. try their lunch special ($50 for an hour befor 2pm). i have found diamonds in the rough, a hot milf, a hot divorcee down on her luck, and college students there.

- there is no such thing as a bad internet cafe in panama. panama has great communications link ups. they have to, the world banks there and half the world's ships are registered there. cheap phone calls and great internet connections for pocket change. on some trips, i did not bring my lap top. i didn't have to pay $10 a night for internet connection when the cafes were open 20 hours a day.

- do buy a cheap local cell phone at the chinese owned shops for less than $15, buy some time, and ask for 4-for-1 days (or better) for buying recharge cards. there a different promotions on different days, so when you get a 3/4/5-for-one day, re-up. you can use your phone to call overseas for little money.

- walk a few blocks away from ground zero to find your neighborhood pharmacy (not a tourist oriented one) to buy your pills. rx's are not needed for most stuff. just 150 meters from the restuarant across the street from the food court near the veneto down a long, unbroken street is a neighborhood laundromat. they charge you by the pound to drop of your laundry, wash, dry, and fold. overnight service, same day if you come early and pick up late. 3-4 lbs for less than $5. 00. bring your soap / dryer sheet and cut that price in half. there are little neighborhood convenience stores (usually chinese owned) where you can buy your fruits, pinapple juice, baked goods, and other sundries and snacks. but a couple of blocks away on the big main street is a huge supermarket that is good too, with a deli! and near there is where i can find not one, but two shoe-shine guys who will give you a spit shine for just $2!

- when you arrive at the airport and have cleared customs / immigration, go upstairs, find a cab that is dropping people off, wait for the cop to be distracted and offer the cabbie $20-25 to take you to the hotel, but insist he take the toll road (unless it is not morning or afternoon rush hour). if he is cool, honest, and has a nice cab, make him "your cabbie" and call him when you need a cab, especially at night.

- touristy things: take a favorita to have lunch by the canal locks and walk through the museum. you can eat and look out the window while a huge ship is going up and down the "water elevator." shop at the mall at the former allbrook air force base. walk around the national university near the veneto during the day (when they are not having a poltiical rally) and try your hand at picking up co-eds.

- if you are going to panama, then you can also do a side trip to medellin. there are direct flights, and if i did have a week, i would spend half a week in panama and half a week in medellin. if i were going for the first time, i would fly into medellin on a sunday and check into one of the casablanca bed / breakfasts (the former medellin mansion) so i wouldn't feel like a paratrooper behind enemy lines. good digs, good breakfast, the company of other guests, conveniently located, tours of the day time casas, quiet at night so you can sleep, there are the "mansion girls" you can have come over, there are day time tours of the "casas" or mps, and at night you can meet the medellin 8's. 9's, and "dimes" while they are still young and "farm fresh" in their natural habitats: parque lleras, discos, night time casas, etc.

I have some points to burn for hotels for a trip coming up in about a week, can someone please confirm if the Miramar Intercontinental is still girl friendly. It sounded ok from some reviews from a few years ago, but could not tell more recently. Thanks for you help.

[QUOTE=Walker076;1282121]I have some points to burn for hotels for a trip coming up in about a week, can someone please confirm if the Miramar Intercontinental is still girl friendly. It sounded ok from some reviews from a few years ago, but could not tell more recently. Thanks for you help.[/QUOTE]I stayed there over a year ago and brought two different girls in late at nite. Wasn't a problem then. I would just ensure she is dressed appropriately. Just be discreet and it shouldn't be an issue.

Was at Golden Fingers last May, basically it's a rip off of Golden Time with a fraction of the chicks and a much smaller venue for the same price. I had a 19 year old who was stunning but definitely not very fun, might be worth looking at since everything is all in the same area.

[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate;1283864]Was at Golden Fingers last May, basically it's a rip off of Golden Time with a fraction of the chicks and a much smaller venue for the same price. I had a 19 year old who was stunning but definitely not very fun, might be worth looking at since everything is all in the same area.[/QUOTE]What was the quality of the talent at Goldfingers? Colombianas or local providers? What did they charge you? What was the ratio of stunners to just average?

This place has more opportunity than I thought. It feels like CR in the golden days. Ok, well, almost. I felt like a kid today. I had FOUR encounters. Ok, sort of. Two were just latincupid dates that only costed me a couple of drinks. But the other two were good. Not stellar, but good. First, let me get this off my chest. What is this bs about BBBJ "causing" bacteria? That must be going around because every girl I talk to says the same thing, as if bacteria is a bad thing. We would be dead without bacteria, and in fact the bacteria from oral sex, with very few exceptions, are completely harmless. No more dangerous than shaking hands. Ok, there, that felt good.

I went to Oasis today and the asshole at the window didn't tell me that there was a half-hour option so I paid $42 for the one-hour which I needed like a new heartache. A HJ was $40, which I went for, oral $50, and "sex" $60. Of course after it was all done she told me about the half hour option and if you go before 2:30 it's half-price entry, meaning $21. All in all though, the Cali Colombian (like I need to say that?) was fun and it was a worthwhile experience. Later in the casino (Veneto, where I'm staying) a very young spinner approached me and told me she was Panamanian, as if that was supposed to impress me, which it did. She took my offer of $80 in a heartbeat, could have got her for $60 I'm sure. It was worth the visuals, but performance was lackluster and would not repeat. By the way, though, she WAS Panamanian, a rarety around here. But who cares. There's nothing like a Paisa.

The "normal" dates were just too boring to even write about here, so I'll spare you. I'm on my way back downstairs. If I can pull another one in one day it'll be a mid-life record.

[QUOTE=Doc Bill; 1284015]Th.

I went to Oasis today and the asshole at the window didn't tell me that there was a half-hour option so I paid $42 for the one-hour which I needed like a new heartache. A HJ was $40, which I went for, oral $50, and "sex" $60. Of course after it was all done she told me about the half hour option and if you go before 2:30 it's half-price entry, meaning $21.[/QUOTE]Wait, wait, wait. You mean to tell me that Oasis has changed its price structure? Now, you pay for entry and time ($42 for an hour?) and THEN you have negotiate a second price for HJ, BJ, and FS? Is this a new pricing system?

Since 2004, what you paid at the front desk for half or a full hour was the price. If the providers are now charging a second price, then this is the worst case of upselling ever!

I haven't been to Oasis in a year but, for an hour, $42 or $21 before 2:30 PM would be a lot less than it used to be. I think it used to be around $80 for an hour, or $50 if you went before 2:30, and that included everything. However, if you went before 2:30 PM, you better be prepared to tip or your date would try to get you out the door as soon as humanly possible. It sounds like they dropped their prices, but now the base price is for massage only.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1284663]I haven't been to Oasis in a year but, for an hour, $42 or $21 before 2:30 PM would be a lot less than it used to be. I think it used to be around $80 for an hour, or $50 if you went before 2:30, and that included everything. However, if you went before 2:30 PM, you better be prepared to tip or your date would try to get you out the door as soon as humanly possible. It sounds like they dropped their prices, but now the base price is for massage only.[/QUOTE]So if the entry is $42 and the provider wants $60 for FS, then they are asking for more than $100! It is $84 at Golden Time, and the quality of the facility and the talent is much better.

Yes, Iguana, I reported exactly what happened. In fact the guy at the window made it abundantly clear that the price for the girls was separate.
Does anyone know if Moulin Rouge is any better. They are right next door but appear to be closed all the time.

Can anyone recommend a 2br apartment close to habaneros? I am looking for something in walking distance or a short cab ride.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Iguana Six;1284856]So if the entry is $42 and the provider wants $60 for FS, then they are asking for more than $100! It is $84 at Golden Time, and the quality of the facility and the talent is much better.[/QUOTE]Golden Time is now apparently $107. They say there is no surcharge anymore if you take a cab, but I don't know if I believe that or not.

If there are any mongers currently in Panama City, please send me a PM. I have a favor to ask (with compensation).

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Doc Bill; 1284860]Yes, Iguana, I reported exactly what happened. In fact the guy at the window made it abundantly clear that the price for the girls was separate.

Does anyone know if Moulin Rouge is any better. They are right next door but appear to be closed all the time.[/QUOTE]Moulin Rouge and Doll House were closed a year ago as a result of a police action. I've seen some cleaning up going on in the respective buildings, so maybe someone else is going to open something up there soon. Based on the history, it's unlikely to be adult entertainment though.

I was in PC last week and I headed over to the Vento at 10. 30pm. After walking around for 20 minutes I really didn't see much on offer compared to last time so headed on down to Habanos.

It was desperate stuff there also not like a month ago but I learned later that the cops had been raiding regularly and that was why many girls were staying away.

I headed back to the Veneto at 11. 20 and my had it changed in an hour. There was much more talent on offer. I bumped into a girl Fernanda who was at Elite last month and was now freelancing. I wanted to fuck her last time but not at Elite prices. I paid $150 which is rather expensive for the veneto however bearing in mind she wanted $350 before, her lovely tits and promise to do BBBJ made me relent. I won't do that again, although I won't cry over 50 bucks. I didn't waste too much time and money on drinks.

We went to Los Arcos which is a close cheap love motel. I paid $12 for the room. In the room I learned that Fernanda was a veteran puta asking for the money up front but even so the blowjob was okay and the sex pretty good, although the girl I had last time for $80 was much better. Luck of the draw in this game.

The Veneto is really dependant on what time you arrive and this time its seems the cops were having an impact on supply. If you go there and don't see much that you like give it an hour before looking somewhere else. The beer is cheap and they have a live band most nights.

[QUOTE=Iguana Six;1283993]What was the quality of the talent at Goldfingers? Colombianas or local providers? What did they charge you? What was the ratio of stunners to just average?[/QUOTE]It was like 90 bucks for an hour or so, like the same as GT, providers were Colombianas, they had numbers and were paraded in front of me as I had a beer. They only had like 8 girls when I was there and it was a Saturday night. I would say it's worth a look inside at least.

Was at Habanos last night, arriving around 11 PM. There were about 40 chicas there, including two of the fattest hookers I have ever seen in my life. About 60-70% were do-able, depending on BAC. I was sober so I picked a very cute one, maybe an 8. From Manizales, lives in Bogotá, first time in Panamá. Said she did not want to work at Veneto because she knew someone who went there, who knows her family. She had nice natural titties but silicone in her ass, which she tried to tell me was muscle from the gym. Like I don't know the difference. But she probably does work out. Said she was 26, I think 31. Used the name Viviana. Very very short, like 150 cm, and of course was wearing huge heels. I was drinking Balboas at $4.50 and she had a Corona for $5.50. Always a good sign when the chica orders beer instead of some overpriced bullshit. Had to use a taxi even though my hotel is two blocks away, due to the heels and the absurdly poor quality of the sidewalks. Talked for quite a while before I asked for a price, which she did everything in her power to avoid giving directly. No, baby, it's not "up to me"; it's up to YOU. $150. No. "I get a million COP for TLN in Bogotá." Well, I doubt that, but I don't want TLN and we are not in Colombia. Anyway she took $100 without too much fight, even after I told her no MIF and not to expect a tip.

Nice gal, fun, good attitude. Everything covered, LFK, a little mutual massage afterwards. Likes to drink beer which works for me. I had plenty on hand and we drank it all. Then it was 3 AM and there were no taxis so I left her in the lobby and went out and hunted one down. Guy had his light on but had a gal in the front seat, who was his wife or GF I am sure. Said he had to drop her off first and would be back in fifteen minutes. I pointed out that he had his light on and started writing his number down and he said okay okay. This gal had no idea where she was but she did not live far away. Cabbie said $6 and I said that address was only 10 blocks away (I was bluffing) and he said $5 and I said $4. Okay okay. Of course all the money she had was the $100 I had given her so I did have to pony up the $4. So with first cab and the drink I bought her it ended up being $113 plus she drank I think 5 of my 55 cent beers. Ranks right around average in all my experiences world wide.

The climate here is unbearable to me and I am glad I am only spending two days here. I will be back for one night on the way out and will probably go to Veneto. On the plus side this is the cheapest beer I have seen in like 20 years. $2. 94 a six pack plus 10% tax and I like the Balboa, with which I am familiar from some prior trips through the airport. This is my first time in Panamá and I hope the central highlands are better. Panamá City is not on my repeat list.

If you are still in Panama City, you must go to LA MAYOR.

Every cab driver knows where it is. No more than $5 cabfare from Veneto. Beers are $1, chica drinks are $1. 50- 2. 00.

Opens 8am? Huge selection of women at $12 per 15 minutes. This is your type of place!

Leaving right now but might try it on the way back. While I was with Viviana some other colombiana she had met (but did not know from Colombia) was texting her wanting to borrow money for rent. Viviana said she was working in some bar where the guys paid $15-20 but she did not know the name of it. That sounds like the place. I don't know if that is my thing any more but I might check it out when I come back through. Thanks! You are the guy who turned me on to Oro 2280, rest its soul (it is now a parrilla, like Buenos Aires needs another one). You always give great advice.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1290510]Leaving right now but might try it on the way back. While I was with Viviana some other colombiana she had met (but did not know from Colombia) was texting her wanting to borrow money for rent. Viviana said she was working in some bar where the guys paid $15-20 but she did not know the name of it. That sounds like the place. I don't know if that is my thing any more but I might check it out when I come back through. Thanks! You are the guy who turned me on to Oro 2280, rest its soul (it is now a parrilla, like Buenos Aires needs another one). You always give great advice.[/QUOTE]Nice post, that was my impression last time I was in Panama scene has changed a lot. How would you describe the Veneto action at night?

[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1290359]Was at Habanos last night, arriving around 11 PM. There were about 40 chicas there, including two of the fattest hookers I have ever seen in my life. About 60-70% were do-able, depending on BAC. I was sober so I picked a very cute one, maybe an 8. From Manizales, lives in Bogotá, first time in Panamá. Said she did not want to work at Veneto because she knew someone who went there, who knows her family. She had nice natural titties but silicone in her ass, which she tried to tell me was muscle from the gym. Like I don't know the difference. But she probably does work out. Said she was 26, I think 31. Used the name Viviana. Very very short, like 150 cm, and of course was wearing huge heels. I was drinking Balboas at $4. 50 and she had a Corona for $5. 50. Always a good sign when the chica orders beer instead of some overpriced bullshit. Had to use a taxi even though my hotel is two blocks away, due to the heels and the absurdly poor quality of the sidewalks. Talked for quite a while before I asked for a price, which she did everything in her power to avoid giving directly. No, baby, it's not "up to me"; it's up to YOU. $150. No."I get a million COP for TLN in Bogotá." Well, I doubt that, but I don't want TLN and we are not in Colombia. Anyway she took $100 without too much fight, even after I told her no MIF and not to expect a tip.

Nice gal, fun, good attitude. Everything covered, LFK, a little mutual massage afterwards. Likes to drink beer which works for me. I had plenty on hand and we drank it all. Then it was 3 AM and there were no taxis so I left her in the lobby and went out and hunted one down. Guy had his light on but had a gal in the front seat, who was his wife or GF I am sure. Said he had to drop her off first and would be back in fifteen minutes. I pointed out that he had his light on and started writing his number down and he said okay okay. This gal had no idea where she was but she did not live far away. Cabbie said $6 and I said that address was only 10 blocks away (I was bluffing) and he said $5 and I said $4. Okay okay. Of course all the money she had was the $100 I had given her so I did have to pony up the $4. So with first cab and the drink I bought her it ended up being $113 plus she drank I think 5 of my 55 cent beers. Ranks right around average in all my experiences world wide.

The climate here is unbearable to me and I am glad I am only spending two days here. I will be back for one night on the way out and will probably go to Veneto. On the plus side this is the cheapest beer I have seen in like 20 years. $2. 94 a six pack plus 10% tax and I like the Balboa, with which I am familiar from some prior trips through the airport. This is my first time in Panamá and I hope the central highlands are better. Panamá City is not on my repeat list.[/QUOTE]Never met a monger on this site with a more appropriate handle than yours, 'Dick'. You spend valuable print space on this thread telling us how you beat a cabbie out of a couple of bucks at 3 AM in a 3rd world country (?) And I wonder why Panamanians still tolerate Norte Americanos as much as they do.

As has been covered here on this forum many times before, Panama City is probably on no one's 'Greatest Mongering Cities on Earth' list, but compared to much of the rest of the world. 1st or 3rd, more than a few of us think it's still pretty damn good. A quick read back through some of your posts over the last year shows a lot of condescending spelling lessons in Spanish for we lesser bilinguals, a fascinating revelation that you are a 'helmet not an ant-eater', and a LOT of trashing of other countries in general such as Mexico. Frankly, my boy, if you treat the ladies the same way you treat your mates here on this website, you just make it all the more difficult for the rest of us fun-loving Punters to have a good time overseas.

When you state 'Panama City is not on my repeat list', I strongly suspect it's a promise more than a few Panamanias and Colombianas you met fervently hope you keep.

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1290612]Never met a monger on this site with a more appropriate handle than yours, 'Dick'. You spend valuable print space on this thread telling us how you beat a cabbie out of a couple of bucks at 3 AM in a 3rd world country (?) And I wonder why Panamanians still tolerate Norte Americanos as much as they do.

As has been covered here on this forum many times before, Panama City is probably on no one's 'Greatest Mongering Cities on Earth' list, but compared to much of the rest of the world. 1st or 3rd, more than a few of us think it's still pretty damn good. A quick read back through some of your posts over the last year shows a lot of condescending spelling lessons in Spanish for we lesser bilinguals, a fascinating revelation that you are a 'helmet not an ant-eater', and a LOT of trashing of other countries in general such as Mexico. Frankly, my boy, if you treat the ladies the same way you treat your mates here on this website, you just make it all the more difficult for the rest of us fun-loving Punters to have a good time overseas.

When you state 'Panama City is not on my repeat list', I strongly suspect it's a promise more than a few Panamanias and Colombianas you met fervently hope you keep.[/QUOTE]I don't know what Dickhead's previous posts were like, but I don't see too much wrong with this one. IMHO, he is doing a lot more to help mongering than hurt it. As for "beating" the cabbie out of a few dollars- he was combating rampant gringo taxing. The taxi ride should have likely been $1. 50 or so, if the thieving taxista gets $6 a few times then his rip-off rate for US guys goes to $8, better to put these thieves in their place early and often in terms of blatant overcharging. Same thing goes for a lot of the girls- over the last 8 years prices have gone way up and attitude and service have gone way down. Treating them like princess primadonnas and paying whatever they ask and many times tipping on top of it is a lot of what has caused both those dynamics.

Actually it was not gringo pricing as I was not taking the cab. He was trying to take advantage of the fact the colombiana did not know where she was. And, it was her money and not mine (in theory, but as I said she did not have enough $1 bills so I assisted her). Plus, the guy was on his way home, obviously, since his GF or wife was in the car (in the front seat) , so it was all gravy for him. Any place the cabs don't have meters, I am going to negotiate the price. I certainly have not trashed México, where I used to live. I just think it's too dangerous right now but if anyone wants to ignore the reality of the violence there now, have fun.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1290838]Actually it was not gringo pricing as I was not taking the cab. He was trying to take advantage of the fact the colombiana did not know where she was. And, it was her money and not mine (in theory, but as I said she did not have enough $1 bills so I assisted her). Plus, the guy was on his way home, obviously, since his GF or wife was in the car (in the front seat) , so it was all gravy for him. Any place the cabs don't have meters, I am going to negotiate the price. I certainly have not trashed México, where I used to live. I just think it's too dangerous right now but if anyone wants to ignore the reality of the violence there now, have fun.[/QUOTE]If you were with the girl when the taxista discussed price it was more than likely gringo pricing. For $6 you could go twice as far as the Albrook Mall.

Well, either way he was inflating the price. What that one guy thinks 3 AM has to do with it is not clear to me since that should be a lower price since there is no traffic and therefore it will be quicker. But I wanted to get rid of her at that point and I would have had to go back and find another cab. $6 is the price I negotiated to go to Albrook yesterday, after the hotel taxi quoted me $10 (showed me some bullshit "official" price list, at which point I knew I would not use him no matter what) and then said he would take $8. The taxi on the street quoted me $8, I countered with $5, and he took $6. That was the third taxi who turned down $5. BTW the two gals who worked at a travel agency I visited to get bus info got into a big argument when one said a taxi to Albrook would be $2. The other said it would be at least $4 and the first one said only a "boba" would pay that and then they started yelling at each other so I left. I don´t like places with non-metered taxis but I use taxis so seldom it's not a big issue. I would have taken the diablo rojo to Albrook but that would have delayed me by an hour and put me in David after dark. I don´t like showing up in a new place at night with baggage and no hotel reservation. I've done it but I don't like it.

[QUOTE=Rippa;1290612]Never met a monger on this site with a more appropriate handle than yours, 'Dick'. You spend valuable print space on this thread telling us how you beat a cabbie out of a couple of bucks at 3 AM in a 3rd world country (?) And I wonder why Panamanians still tolerate Norte Americanos as much as they do.[/QUOTE]While I have no idea where Dickhead's date was headed, I suspect most Panamanians would have beat more than a couple of bucks out of the cabbie.

Hey everyone, long time lurker and mongerer here. I've been to most of the big mongering spots in the city (GT, Carribean, Royal Elegance, Veneto, Habanos.) , and I was wondering if anyone knows any good alternatives in the city. I know there's a couple spots in Casco Viejo I still have to check out, but what about other places in the Ave Central area? Nothing so seedy that I'll be robbed and shot, but maybe just lesser known places good for a decent BJ. I've got a car but not really interested in heading out into the jungle, so in city areas only please. Also if anyone knows and decent push-buttons closer to the city center, I hate driving out half way to the airport for some private play. Oh ya, not a huge fan of P4P from strip clubs, so no need to bring those up.

I'll post some new reports soon. If anyone needs any tips about the sport or the city in general, feel free to ask.

Hey guys,

I'm debating on where my next trip will be, either DR or Panama and just had a couple questions.

What are some chica friendly hotels that are near Veneto, but cheaper?

Is there any advantage of staying at Veneto's aside from being close to the action?

I definitely want to check out the talent there but take them to my nearby hotel. Also want to check out regular night clubs like on calle uruguay.

Thanks!

Hey Guys, here's a report from Gold Fingers:

For those who don't know, this place is just off Tumba Muerto, in the same shopping center / parking lot as a Super 99, left side of the road if driving away from the city. The Super99 is attached to a little mall with generally uninteresting stores, and Fingers is in a little strip of shops across the parking lot. Just a door or two down is the Caribbean Center, which I'm told is a similar style to Gold Fingers, but I'll check it out and report back.

So the set up is simple, you walk in and are greeted by a little Asian matron, who leads you further in to a seating area which is just a small room with basically couches along the walls. She calls in a line up of girls, who walk by in skimpy outfits and little numbers on. I was there at just after opening, and there was a decent line up of maybe 10 girls for me to choose from. Not all stunners of course, but there were some decent ones. I picked out a hottie (Colombian) with great tits and a tight little ass in a white teddy. As the girls were showing off to me some other guy came in and sat down, he seemed local and I noticed they didn't restart the show for him, so I don't know if they just keep repeating the parade or what. Anyway, the chica and I went a little further into the place to the cash window, put down some info and around $90 for the hour. They offered me some drinks (which I'm sure weren't complementary) , but I was only interested in the piece of ass next to me. With everything settled up, the girl takes me upstairs where they have a hallway with a bunch of doors leading to little rooms that consist of a bed and a small sink / shower. The room I had was tiny, barely a foot on either side of the bed, then extra thin walls. Seriously, I could hear at least two other guys in the rooms pounding away at some cheap Colombian pussy.

So the chica offers the basic massage, so I get undressed and she starts "massaging" me, and I mean this in the sarcastic sense rather than the euphamistic sense; she sucked at it (puns!). I'd had enough so I told her desnudate and she let her tits loose. One thing I've noticed in my mongering adventures, no matter how great the tits look in a bra, they're often disappointing when they're not in one. But a little bit of sag didn't phase me much, I was ready to go. She goes to grab a condom for the BJ but I'm not interested in that, and with a bit of effort she agrees to BBBJ for about a $30 tip. Not great I know, but I really can't stand the rubbers. She gets to work and isn't bad, good amount of stroking and sucking, but her heart wasn't in it, so after a bit I told her to bend over and stick that pussy out for me. After I get the rubber on I get to pounding her good and she starts to get into it. We switch positions a couple times; her on top was great with those tits in my face. After a good half hour of fucking I get her and the condom off and put her back on BJ duty. I'm ready to pop now and in no time I get the full release. Unfortunately, she made the terrible mistake of aiming my cock away from her and up at me, so I got jizz all over my stomach / chest. With that plus the unenthusiastic BJ, I decided to cross Gold Fingers off my list for a while, at least until the next crop of pussy comes in. My time was just about up so I rinsed off, got dressed, and left.

Overall, the experience was great, at least in terms of the place itself and not the chica necessarily. I would definitely recommend it. I should note that I speak Spanish pretty well, so it's not too difficult getting the girls to do what I want, but if you're not strong with the language you might have more difficulty. Anyway, here's the final score:

Location: 5/5. Being in the heart of El Dorado is great, easy to get to by car or taxi if you need to. Lots of food options around too for that post-pussy meal.

Girls: 3/5. Overall they looked great, but the performance of my girl today brought the place down from a 4/5.

Rooms: 2/5. A lot of parlors have way better rooms, and the sound of other people fucking so close by threw me off a bit.

Price: 3/5. Pretty standard rate, and for the price it's not terrible.

Hours: 4/5. The place opens at around noon, so it's not bad for daytime play, better than GT opening at 7 but not as good as RE being 24/7.

OVERALL: 3. 5/5. RECOMMENDED

I arrived today in PTY on Copa. Good flight from Orlando. Cleared immigration and happened to bump into this beautiful Panamanian woman working the baggage counter. I am guessing 25 or so. She was dressed in a Copa uniform (skirt) and heels. She has perfect teeth and a pretty face – I was captivated. So I just asked her for her phone number and she provided it.

Arrived at the Sheraton in San Francisco area and checked in. I also asked where someone could purchase a mobile phone and the hotel offered one to me – just pay for the minutes ($0. 50 / minute local). So I called her and she was busy so the conversation was short and ended with her hanging up or something. Realizing she was at work I did not call her back but 20 minutes later she called me. She is off work at 10:00p and coming to meet me at the Sheraton at 11:00p. From her ease of getting together I assume I am going to fuck her brains out tonight. I will lick every inch of her cuca and starfish and then introduce the big boy. Can't wait – it is 8:00p local time now.

So I will kick back and relax and tune in Game 2 of the NBA finals and see what happens. Will head out tomorrow to check out some of the massage places. So far the women seem receptive with my rudimentary Spanish.

Will detail out the evening action tomorrow.

I arrived today in PTY on Copa. Good flight from Orlando. Cleared immigration and happened to bump into this beautiful Panamanian woman working the baggage counter. I am guessing 25 or so. She was dressed in a Copa uniform (skirt) and heels. She has perfect teeth and a pretty face – I was captivated. So I just asked her for her phone number and she provided it.

Arrived at the Sheraton in San Francisco area and checked in. I also asked where someone could purchase a mobile phone and the hotel offered one to me – just pay for the minutes ($0. 50 / minute local). So I called her and she was busy so the conversation was short and ended with her hanging up or something. Realizing she was at work I did not call her back but 20 minutes later she called me. She is off work at 10:00p and coming to meet me at the Sheraton at 11:00p. From her ease of getting together I assume I am going to fuck her brains out tonight. I will lick every inch of her cuca and starfish and then introduce the big boy. Can't wait – it is 8:00p local time now.

So I will kick back and relax and tune in Game 2 of the NBA finals and see what happens. Will head out tomorrow to check out some of the massage places. So far the women seem receptive with my rudimentary Spanish.

Will detail out the evening action tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Vagigilover; 1293196]I arrived today in PTY on Copa. Good flight from Orlando. Cleared immigration and happened to bump into this beautiful Panamanian woman working the baggage counter. I am guessing 25 or so. She was dressed in a Copa uniform (skirt) and heels. She has perfect teeth and a pretty face – I was captivated. So I just asked her for her phone number and she provided it.

Arrived at the Sheraton in San Francisco area and checked in. I also asked where someone could purchase a mobile phone and the hotel offered one to me – just pay for the minutes ($0. 50 / minute local). So I called her and she was busy so the conversation was short and ended with her hanging up or something. Realizing she was at work I did not call her back but 20 minutes later she called me. She is off work at 10:00p and coming to meet me at the Sheraton at 11:00p. From her ease of getting together I assume I am going to fuck her brains out tonight. I will lick every inch of her cuca and starfish and then introduce the big boy. Can't wait – it is 8:00p local time now.

So I will kick back and relax and tune in Game 2 of the NBA finals and see what happens. Will head out tomorrow to check out some of the massage places. So far the women seem receptive with my rudimentary Spanish.

Will detail out the evening action tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Any update on this, thanks brotha

[QUOTE=Iguana Six; 1282109]- Walk a few blocks away from ground zero to find your neighborhood pharmacy (not a tourist oriented one) to buy your pills. Rx's are not needed for most stuff.[/quote]What is meant by 'most stuff'? V, L, & C of some variation I'm sure are available without a RX but what about things like codeien cough syrup, Xanax, Ambien etc? Is there a startegy to get Loratabs or anything like it?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Joe Shmoe; 1291787]Hey guys,

I'm debating on where my next trip will be, either DR or Panama and just had a couple questions.

What are some chica friendly hotels that are near Veneto, but cheaper?

Is there any advantage of staying at Veneto's aside from being close to the action?

I definitely want to check out the talent there but take them to my nearby hotel. Also want to check out regular night clubs like on calle uruguay.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I've been trying to find out the same thing for a while now. I found some spots, but don't now waht's what. I f you find out something please inbox me I'll do the same for you.

Chica friendly, near Veneto: Tower House Suites on Calle 51 which is República de Paraguay. $65 on the weekends and $72 during the week, includes breakfast. Two rooms as the name implies, and either full kitchen or microwave and minifridge. So you have a sofa or couch to hang out on. Two or three blocks from Hábano's. One desk clerk is hot.

Haven't seen a post in such a long time, has anyone gone the past few weeks to fill us in? My thoughts are it has completly hit the shitter.

Hi everyone,

I ll be in Panama next August and I am looking for some massage parlour in Panama city and around the country near the beaches.

If anyone can help me with some info (location-name-price-suggestion) I will appreciate it!

Thank you.

Rob

I stayed in the Veneto on Tuesday night and until 10. 30pm I thought it was pretty dire. The reason: the security staff are really hassling the girls. Any girls that came in were moved on from the main casino area in front of the bar. Many left early and I thought at first that they were all being asked to leave. As it transpired they were being moved to the back of the casino and you could still find a few. However there wasnt a lot to choose from. Clearly the security personnel are having effect on the number and quality of girls there. With the police outside hassling them also, its no wonder things have got worse. Only just two months ago things were a lot better. I counted maybe 20 girls at 11. 15pm. There are probably many illegals and are likely being deported. I understand they only have a visa if they work the clubs, but not the independents. Also the Colombian girls can legally be working girls, but not the panamanian girls, how about that?

I managed to find a dominican girl with big tits who agreed all for $80 but I certainly played on the fact that business was slow for the girls and it was a buyers market. Got her number for next time if its quiet.

I doubt it was much better in Habanos, it seems as if they are trying to get rid of prostitution in Panama city or move them to the upscale clubs. However not many peple are going to pay those prices.

Ill see what it is like next time, in the meantime I have a few phone numbers to arrange somthing the next time but its always good to find new pussy.

Thinking of a trip to Curacao to check that out.

The last few years Panama City does seem to have more than it's fair share of crackdowns / shakedowns but it'd be hard to believe all of the nightlife & chicas are being pushed only to the expensive strip clubs. It's been a year since my last visit, but in my experience the Veneto and Habanos aren't happening until at least 10:30 pm and the discos like Ashe don't get going until much later. Golden Time is always an excellent option but just don't take the taxi directly there or mitigate your loss by telling / agreeing with the driver you won't pay the $4 to $5 cab fare but he can take you directly to GT for his cut. Also Oasis is next door to the Veneto but I'm a fan of Oasis or it's fugly chicas.

If you speak spanish, there's a couple more options: the other Calle Uruguay clubs and bars are another good place to meet non & semi pros and will be close to your home base. If you're younger and can speak spanish the Casco Viejo club scene is a good option and a cool atmosphere. Maybe wrong, but don't remember the Amador Causeway having many good clubs or much of a club scene. If you don't speak spanish than just stick to the main gringo / Veneto circuit. And unless you enjoy dropping mad, stupid cash wouldn't even bother going into places like Le Palace or Elite. Will be back in PTY late August so should be able provide an update then.

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1300107]I stayed in the Veneto on Tuesday night and until 10. 30pm I thought it was pretty dire. The reason: the security staff are really hassling the girls. Any girls that came in were moved on from the main casino area in front of the bar. Many left early and I thought at first that they were all being asked to leave. As it transpired they were being moved to the back of the casino and you could still find a few. However there wasnt a lot to choose from. Clearly the security personnel are having effect on the number and quality of girls there. With the police outside hassling them also, its no wonder things have got worse. Only just two months ago things were a lot better. I counted maybe 20 girls at 11. 15pm. There are probably many illegals and are likely being deported. I understand they only have a visa if they work the clubs, but not the independents. Also the Colombian girls can legally be working girls, but not the panamanian girls, how about that?

I managed to find a dominican girl with big tits who agreed all for $80 but I certainly played on the fact that business was slow for the girls and it was a buyers market. Got her number for next time if its quiet.

I doubt it was much better in Habanos, it seems as if they are trying to get rid of prostitution in Panama city or move them to the upscale clubs. However not many peple are going to pay those prices.

Ill see what it is like next time, in the meantime I have a few phone numbers to arrange somthing the next time but its always good to find new pussy.

Thinking of a trip to Curacao to check that out.[/QUOTE]

Can anybody recommend some good places to eat in Panama City? Wouldn't mind getting a good steak, I live in Costa Rica so even halfway decent beef can be somewhat hard to come by. I will be at the Veneto this weekend if anyone is around send a PM, I will be taking a laptop.

[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate;1300479]Can anybody recommend some good places to eat in Panama City? Wouldn't mind getting a good steak, I live in Costa Rica so even halfway decent beef can be somewhat hard to come by. I will be at the Veneto this weekend if anyone is around send a PM, I will be taking a laptop.[/QUOTE]There are tons of good restaurants in Panama City- Click on "Best Food Ranking" on the right side of this site: [url]http://www.degustapanama.com/[/url] And anyplace on the first 8 pages should be very good.

For steak in particular my favorites are Gaucho on Calle Uruguay, the Filete Encebollado at Martin Fiero in El Cangrejo. Los Anos Locos and Jimmy's Parrillada near Atlapa Convention center in San Francisco.

No way I am eating at a place called The Crazy Anuses ("Los Anos Locos")! Years = años.

I built my hotel reservation around the stories of the Veneto so I am sad to learn that this weekend might suck! Always a day late.

[QUOTE=Tbuss; 1300592]There are tons of good restaurants in Panama City- Click on "Best Food Ranking" on the right side of this site:

[url]http://www.degustapanama.com/[/url]

And anyplace on the first 8 pages should be very good.

For steak in particular my favorites are Gaucho on Calle Uruguay, the Filete Encebollado at Martin Fiero in El Cangrejo. Los Anos Locos and Jimmy's Parrillada near Atlapa Convention center in San Francisco.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Travel Fool; 1300791]No way I am eating at a place called The Crazy Anuses ("Los Anos Locos")! Years = años.

I built my hotel reservation around the stories of the Veneto so I am sad to learn that this weekend might suck! Always a day late.[/QUOTE]Each week is different there. One week they are strict the next they week is totally different. Please share your stories when you get back. ENJOY

Just checked into the Veneto, will be sure to report back on what I get into this weekend.

It's años locos, as in crazy years not crazy anuses. It's a cool place.

And from what I can tell, dudes bring their mistresses there.

[QUOTE=Travel Fool;1300791]No way I am eating at a place called The Crazy Anuses ("Los Anos Locos")! Years = años.[/QUOTE]

Plenty of chicas around Veneto last night, stopped into Golden Time, picked #10, was fun but rushed and I have definitely had a lot better time there. They also tried to give me the higher price until I bitched and assured them I was not in a taxi.

Stopped in by Golden Fingers also, great lineup improvement from my last visit. Might have to stop by there tonight and see what I can get into as I didn't take one last night.

Picked up a 22 year old from Cali when I got back to the casino after the massage parlor run, finally found something appealing to me without silicone. Way too much silicone going on down here for my tastes. She asked 150, I told her 80 with a propina maybe, she totally earned her 100, what a fun chica. I'll post about tonight when I get back home tomorrow, going to be doing another trip the El Dorado to check out the massage parlors and maybe see what Habanos has to offer as I went by in a taxi last night and it also looked packed.

For those still unsure of the location: Golden Time is a few doors down from the "Popeyes" fast food chain. The sign for this is so big on the main drag you cannot miss it.

Yesterday around 10:00 made my pilgrimage.

Six ladies presented themselves, all very enjoyable spinners. Two were not in the mood as they just came through the door turned and left, did not even take the time to allow us to see their numbers which were reversed so could not see them anyway. For one of them I really wish I could have but she was gone in a sec.

Cost us$113, which include 3 drinks after the fact.

Enjoy.

Mellow

Snipps' post from last week ('what has happened to Panama City. Haven't seen a post in such a long time') guilted me into finally getting it together and writing my report of my December 2011 trip. If things have not changed too much since then, I would argue that Panama City is still a great place to monger.

My first outing was out to Oasis, near the Veneto on the first full afternoon of the trip, excusing myself from the old lady under the pretext of making some travel arrangements. I chose a lousy day to go out, since rainy season was definitely not yet over. I was staying at a hotel in the Bella Vista neighborhood, not all that far away from the Veneto area, but with steady rain coming down I wanted to catch a taxi. Cabs are not expensive in Panama City, but it can be hard to find one right away, especially one going your direction on a rainy day, and road construction detours discouraged a couple of taxis from going my way. At some point I just gave up and began walking. Which was little damp but fine until the deluge came. We are talking Noah and the Ark type rain. I waded through mini-rivers gushing down the sloped streets, and my shoes and other clothing were soon so thoroughly soaked that gave up even trying to avoid pools of water or cars splashing me.

Dripping wet, I was relieved that I apparently had made the Oasis special lunchtime promotion I had read about on the forum, a flat $50 for an hour. It turned out that this had changed, to $24 for the room, the massage price to be negotiated with the girl. After I paid the guy behind the cashier's window I chose one of the three girls in lingerie who stood up for me in the sitting area, who had a hot body. She gave me a little time to get out of my soggy clothing, and when she returned we negotiated $60 for the hour, more than I had expected given what I had anticipated for the lunchtime special. The session was acceptable but certainly not GFE, with everything covered and her moves a bit mechanical. Still, I hadn't had a session with a nice Paisa for a long time, so it took the edge off there.

I wasn't done exploring for the day. Based on my reading of the forum, another set of massage parlors was within walking distance. But between this being my first trip to Panama City and this part of town, the road and sidewalk construction, and minimal street signage, it took me a while to get where I was going. I went way too far on Calle Argentina, but eventually doubled back and found the off-street shopping plaza that contained River Club and Oriental Relax massage parlors. With both places located across a parking lot I decided to scope out the talent in each. I took a quick look into Oriental, just past an internet café, and the three ladies in lingerie made me consider a return. It only took a glance at the hags waiting at River Club to send me immediately back to Oriental Relax.

A new girl was now sitting in the tiny waiting room: Mia, a black Panamanian. I asked for her and was shown the room. Oriental Relax was very rudimentary, much more so than Oasis. The room had a sliding door, thin panel walls, and while it did have a small couch the only other furniture was a massage table. This is where Mia started me with a massage, but I was eager to get my hands on her thick, curvy Afro-Panamanian body. After we negotiated for $40 (above the $20 or so entry). I undressed her and sat her on the table as I licked her juicy pussy, then laid her back and mounted her. When she climbed on me in cowgirl she showed off her strong, solid body as she rode me with vigor. I clutched her round ass, and turned her around in reverse so I could get a better grip on that awesome booty. Doggystyle was even better, and I became drenched in sweat as I pushed her flat onto her belly and pumped my cum inside her. I tipped her an extra $20 for her efforts, in retrospect a bit much, but it was a memorable session.

A few days later I again escaped to Oasis during the day. Happily, a slender Colombian brunette who had been in the waiting room the previous time was there again. The last time the other girl's sultry look had lured me despite Sophia's sweet smile, but this time I did not make the mistake of passing this girl up. I knew I had chosen well when she turned out to be just as friendly in the room, and she happily accepted $40. Chatting with her was fun, but I couldn't keep my hands off this pale cutie for long. I had to pull the bed into position, but we soon took full advantage of the room's wall and ceiling mirrors. I sat on the edge of the bed as Sophia sat on my dick and I looked over her shoulder at the view as she bounced up and down. I laid back and pulled her back against me, fucking until the sight of her delicious slim body writhing on top of made it impossible for me to hold back my load any longer.

I made one nighttime trip to a massage parlor, Golden Times. Reaching it by taxi was easy, and only took around 20 minutes from my hotel. I simply asked for the Casino Fantastic, and from there I simply crossed the main commercial street to the shopping center with the Popeye's. At the cashier's window inside, I offered the $90 I had read about on the forum, but the lady there would have none of it. I told her that is what I had paid in the past (though this was my first time). She must have seen through that and asked when I had last visited, and said that next time I could have that price, but for now it would be $107.

An older gentleman led me past some of the ladies in the hallway to the sitting room (cubicle is more like it) , where I was served a beer and watched tv for a little while until a lineup was offered. Lots of Colombianas with big (fake) boobs and big (fake?) round butts. A little artificial to my liking, but still arousing. I selected a late-20s / 30 year old named Natalia, whose breasts really turned me on. As we chatted I learned that I was possibly her last customer in Panama, as she was returning to Colombia the next day as her visa was expiring. She began with a decent massage, and when I flipped she provided a covered blow job and then rode me. It was all too brief and mechanical. I liked Natalia's pleasant personality, but the session, combined with my first Oasis experience, had me down on Colombianas in Panama. Fortunately, as I would later (surprisingly) learn from my La Bocatorena and La Mayor experiences, there were places and Colombianas in Panama City offering an alternative to high prices and so-so service.

la bocatorena and la mayor ranked as highlights of my panama city mongering. i'the call them the best combination of quality, value and local flavor i experienced. my favorite thing about them? they are extremely well placed for anyone staying in the old city of casco viejo, within say a ten minute walk, and so telling your significant other that you are leaving the hotel for a walkabout or even a search for a grocery store makes a great pretext to pop (literally) in one of these clubs. you earn some monger street cred going into this portside barrio behind the fish market, but in reality the clubs are on a main street, and if you are walking from the old town above just cross through the new well-lit park you should be fine.

i made a couple of daytime visits to bocatorena. the place had character (and characters) in abundance, plus good music and cheap beer in a dive-why setting. when i visited, it was full of panamanian men, mostly on the young side, looking at the women standing at the margins of the dim main rooms. if you're a white foreigner like me, this kind of crowd has an edge to it, just by virtue of one standing out a bit plus the unpredictability of so much testosterone in one room; that said, i felt pretty comfortable there.

when i entered i had second thoughts, not due to the male clientele but the first two house-sized ladies i saw. fortunately, i didn't let that deter me, and after ordering a beer i scoped out the other ladies, including one whose skin tight bare shoulder dress showed off her curvy body. i sidled up to lorena, from cali, and after we chatted a bit looked into getting a room; her body attracted me more than her face, which wasn't unattractive, but i was ready for a session. she led me to the upstairs payment booth and warren of bedrooms; that staircase was off the further barroom, and all my later sessions were in the ground floor area off the main entrance barroom.

i paid the counter guy $ 15 for 20 minutes (and they took my beer bottle, which isn't permitted in the bedroom). when we got into the room lorena peeled off her white dress and squatted on the toilet, which was at the foot of the bed, and then splashed water from the sink onto her privates to clean up. (despite the room set up, they weren't really dirty – shabby and worn, but not what i'the call dirty). after a quick covered bj we switched from missionary to doggy, and her nice round calena ass prompted me to blow my load. and we got it in under the time limit, a rapid but satisfying time, despite the lack of kissing which seems par for the course here.

i took some time to recover with a beer, but when i spotted a petite cutie with an impressive rack standing by the back wall, i made a beeline for her. she was 20 and from pereira, which made me instantly promise myself to visit that city next time i am in colombia. even before she stripped naked i could tell this teen cutie had invested in a set of fake boobs, which i normally don't like so much. but when i squeezed them as she rode me in cowgirl i had the hardest time deciding if i preferred her this way (and living out my fantasy of getting fucked by a little porn vixen) what she would be like as a more innocent girl next door sans inflated breasts. although i had paid for a 20 minute session, within about seven minutes of getting into the room we got a warning knock on the door. with the high volume at bocatorena this seems common, as it happened in my next session there also. i was just getting into it with her, so i had her run out another $15 to extend the session. as a result of having to pay for double time (which i also with my next girl) , the sessions at bocatorena aren't as good a value as say the $30 half hour blocks at la mayor next door, where there was no rush to get you out of the rooms.

my next visit to bocatorena featured my favorite girl from that club, light-skinned. 19 year old juliana. this blonde in daisy duke shorts and bikini top looked like the prototypical california girl, but she was a paisa. she was attracting some attention shaking her hips to the music when i approached her, and she turned out to be even more of a sweetheart than i expected. this included kissing (albeit lightly) in the room. we tried out a variety of positions (in general the girls at bocatorena and la mayor were more open to multiple positions that you might expect in these settings) , and i think we both really appreciated the ones – spooning, pumping her from behind in doggy – that allowed me to focus attention on her round ass.

la mayor represented a cut or two (or more, depending how big your cuts are) above its next door neighbor la bocatorena. even the old building it occupied looked like it had been gentrified. i paid the cover charge at the counter, checked my umbrella, got frisked going in, and sat down to enjoy the stripper on stage. i actually think i observed more of the slapstick comedy act put on by the resident clown, something i never expected to see in a strip club.

as i sipped my beer i noticed two attractive brunettes sitting at a table. i approached the one i found more appealing, a medellin girl, and we took the stairs up to the bedroom section, and i paid my $30. i found the room acceptable, with air conditioning, attached bathroom and television. this girl looked great naked, with reasonable fake boobs and a squeezable round ass. i appreciated her energetic performance and the effort she put into making sure i came (i was a bit fatigued, having been enjoying the girls next door). i left her a $10 tip in appreciation, as i did with other girls at la mayor and la bocatorena.

on my next visit i happened to be at the bar when a delicious little brunette came up to get a drink. i saw her strip earlier and assumed she was accompanying a guy by now, but i was in luck, tina was available. i'm drooling over the keyboard thinking about her now, with her adorable face, petite, compact body with a bubble butt, tiny waist, and round, fake tits. she could be the best looking colombian girl i was ever with. watching her squeeze out of her tight jean shorts and button-straining blouse made my eyes pop. and she went all out, like the previous colombiana, to make sure that i popped – not so easy, coming from a visit to la bocatorena. tina made me cum as she ground into my cock in reverse cowgirl. it's a vision i'll take to my grave, her round ass cheeks gyrating back and forth, up and down, as i grasped them forcefully, and finally exploding into the condom. the definitive reverse cowgirl visual in my memory bank.

on my last night in panama city i returned to la mayor. i saw the two lovely colombianas i had been with and greeted them with a smile at the bar, as they fetched drinks for the men they were entertaining. i wanted to be entertained in private by a gorgeous black girl whom i had seen stripping, but she was snapped up by another guest. another attractive, fairly tall black girl came into sight, and i invited her to sit with me, and we ordered a bucket of beers. elisabeta was from the dominican republic, and she appreciated my comment praising presidente as superior to the beers in panama. after we downed those we went upstairs, and began to kiss passionately (as distinguished from most of the non-kissing colombianas). we shed our clothing and began going at it very passionately, our hips bucking furiously in unison as we fucked in missionary. it wasn't a session that featured a long list of positions, but it was one born out of real sexual compatibility between us.

the massage parlors had been ok, but la bocatorena and la mayor really scored, and revived my faith in colombianas and the lengths some of them will go to please a man. when you add in that little bit of dominican flavor to remind me of pleasant past experiences, you've got the makings of a trip highlight. it's just too bad i didn't find another fine panamanian there to thrown into the mix.

[quote=ibn buttita; 1301524]la bocatorena and la mayor ranked as highlights of my panama city mongering. i'the call them the best combination of quality, value and local flavor i experienced. my favorite thing about them? they are extremely well placed for anyone staying in the old city of casco viejo, within say a ten minute walk, and so telling your significant other that you are leaving the hotel for a walkabout or even a search for a grocery store makes a great pretext to pop (literally) in one of these clubs. you earn some monger street cred going into this portside barrio behind the fish market, but in reality the clubs are on a main street, and if you are walking from the old town above just cross through the new well-lit park you should be fine.

i made a couple of daytime visits to bocatorena. the place had character (and characters) in abundance, plus good music and cheap beer in a dive-why setting. when i visited, it was full of panamanian men, mostly on the young side, looking at the women standing at the margins of the dim main rooms. if you're a white foreigner like me, this kind of crowd has an edge to it, just by virtue of one standing out a bit plus the unpredictability of so much testosterone in one room; that said, i felt pretty comfortable there.

when i entered i had second thoughts, not due to the male clientele but the first two house-sized ladies i saw. fortunately, i didn't let that deter me, and after ordering a beer i scoped out the other ladies, including one whose skin tight bare shoulder dress showed off her curvy body. i sidled up to lorena, from cali, and after we chatted a bit looked into getting a room; her body attracted me more than her face, which wasn't unattractive, but i was ready for a session. she led me to the upstairs payment booth and warren of bedrooms; that staircase was off the further barroom, and all my later sessions were in the ground floor area off the main entrance barroom.

i paid the counter guy $ 15 for 20 minutes (and they took my beer bottle, which isn't permitted in the bedroom). when we got into the room lorena peeled off her white dress and squatted on the toilet, which was at the foot of the bed, and then splashed water from the sink onto her privates to clean up. (despite the room set up, they weren't really dirty – shabby and worn, but not what i'the call dirty). after a quick covered bj we switched from missionary to doggy, and her nice round calena ass prompted me to blow my load. and we got it in under the time limit, a rapid but satisfying time, despite the lack of kissing which seems par for the course here.

i took some time to recover with a beer, but when i spotted a petite cutie with an impressive rack standing by the back wall, i made a beeline for her. she was 20 and from pereira, which made me instantly promise myself to visit that city next time i am in colombia. even before she stripped naked i could tell this teen cutie had invested in a set of fake boobs, which i normally don't like so much. but when i squeezed them as she rode me in cowgirl i had the hardest time deciding if i preferred her this way (and living out my fantasy of getting fucked by a little porn vixen) what she would be like as a more innocent girl next door sans inflated breasts. although i had paid for a 20 minute session, within about seven minutes of getting into the room we got a warning knock on the door. with the high volume at bocatorena this seems common, as it happened in my next session there also. i was just getting into it with her, so i had her run out another $15 to extend the session. as a result of having to pay for double time (which i also with my next girl) , the sessions at bocatorena aren't as good a value as say the $30 half hour blocks at la mayor next door, where there was no rush to get you out of the rooms.

my next visit to bocatorena featured my favorite girl from that club, light-skinned. 19 year old juliana. this blonde in daisy duke shorts and bikini top looked like the prototypical california girl, but she was a paisa. she was attracting some attention shaking her hips to the music when i approached her, and she turned out to be even more of a sweetheart than i expected. this included kissing (albeit lightly) in the room. we tried out a variety of positions (in general the girls at bocatorena and la mayor were more open to multiple positions that you might expect in these settings) , and i think we both really appreciated the ones – spooning, pumping her from behind in doggy – that allowed me to focus attention on her round ass.

la mayor represented a cut or two (or more, depending how big your cuts are) above its next door neighbor la bocatorena. even the old building it occupied looked like it had been gentrified. i paid the cover charge at the counter, checked my umbrella, got frisked going in, and sat down to enjoy the stripper on stage. i actually think i observed more of the slapstick comedy act put on by the resident clown, something i never expected to see in a strip club.

as i sipped my beer i noticed two attractive brunettes sitting at a table. i approached the one i found more appealing, a medellin girl, and we took the stairs up to the bedroom section, and i paid my $30. i found the room acceptable, with air conditioning, attached bathroom and television. this girl looked great naked, with reasonable fake boobs and a squeezable round ass. i appreciated her energetic performance and the effort she put into making sure i came (i was a bit fatigued, having been enjoying the girls next door). i left her a $10 tip in appreciation, as i did with other girls at la mayor and la bocatorena.

on my next visit i happened to be at the bar when a delicious little brunette came up to get a drink. i saw her strip earlier and assumed she was accompanying a guy by now, but i was in luck, tina was available. i'm drooling over the keyboard thinking about her now, with her adorable face, petite, compact body with a bubble butt, tiny waist, and round, fake tits. she could be the best looking colombian girl i was ever with. watching her squeeze out of her tight jean shorts and button-straining blouse made my eyes pop. and she went all out, like the previous colombiana, to make sure that i popped – not so easy, coming from a visit to la bocatorena. tina made me cum as she ground into my cock in reverse cowgirl. it's a vision i'll take to my grave, her round ass cheeks gyrating back and forth, up and down, as i grasped them forcefully, and finally exploding into the condom. the definitive reverse cowgirl visual in my memory bank.

on my last night in panama city i returned to la mayor. i saw the two lovely colombianas i had been with and greeted them with a smile at the bar, as they fetched drinks for the men they were entertaining. i wanted to be entertained in private by a gorgeous black girl whom i had seen stripping, but she was snapped up by another guest. another attractive, fairly tall black girl came into sight, and i invited her to sit with me, and we ordered a bucket of beers. elisabeta was from the dominican republic, and she appreciated my comment praising presidente as superior to the beers in panama. after we downed those we went upstairs, and began to kiss passionately (as distinguished from most of the non-kissing colombianas). we shed our clothing and began going at it very passionately, our hips bucking furiously in unison as we fucked in missionary. it wasn't a session that featured a long list of positions, but it was one born out of real sexual compatibility between us.

the massage parlors had been ok, but la bocatorena and la mayor really scored, and revived my faith in colombianas and the lengths some of them will go to please a man. when you add in that little bit of dominican flavor to remind me of pleasant past experiences, you've got the makings of a trip highlight. it's just too bad i didn't find another fine panamanian there to thrown into the mix.[/quote]nice post, thanks for taking the time to write one. yes, in my opinion a lot has changed since you visited. back in 2011 it was ok. this year every week seems to be different. i'm talking about panama city off course, ie veneto, habanos, etc. i have never gone to la bocatorena or la mayor, maybe thats what i might do on my next visit if i decide to go down again. just not into having fun with the ladies in those type of room settings. rather pick up someone from the veneto and go straight to your room.

Stopped by Golden Time last night, right at opening, by 7:30 they a fair number of chicas, sadly only 3 of them were natural. Went over to Gold Fingers instead, took a chica I wish I had the night before who I thought would be a good time, man was I ever wrong. I think that was one of the worst times I have ever had at a massage parlor, lighting 95 bucks on fire in front of a bum would have been more entertaining. No touching, constantly checking the condom, toothed me numerous times during the, thank jesus, CBJ. I think I would have had some broken skin if it wasn't for the rubber being on. She asked me if I liked it when we were done, I told her no, she looked a little let down and then tried to make a bunch of small talk that was just crap about how Panama sucks and Colombia is the best, and asked me for a propina still to which I also told her no. Went back to the Veneto and did some more losing on their table games when I noticed the chica from Friday night was there again and knew that would be a sure thing. 80 bucks, no propina requests, and great service. What a trooper. Pretty lame report, I know, but I had to wake up at 5 am to go to the airport. When I was checking out of the Veneto I seen a guy leaving with 3 chicas, good times, haha. I'm sure I will be back in Panama City at some point just due to my living situation however I would never make a point to go there myself. Much better mongering in other locations and way too much silicone for my liking.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1301730]Nice post, thanks for taking the time to write one. Yes, in my opinion a lot has changed since you visited. Back in 2011 it was ok. This year every week seems to be different. I'm talking about Panama city off course, ie veneto, habanos, etc. I have never gone to La Bocatorena or La Mayor, maybe thats what I might do on my next visit if I decide to go down again. Just not into having fun with the ladies in those type of room settings. Rather pick up someone from the Veneto and go straight to your room.[/QUOTE]Thanks Snipps. I like TLN when I am traveling solo, maybe I'll have a chance to try that at the Veneto some time. Definitely try at least La Mayor when you do get down there again.

For those of you that find the rooms to be completely disgusting: GOOD NEWS!

Carry out / take away is on the menu. I have had several girls in there try to get me to take them for the rest of the afternoon.

I don't recall how much the buyout was, but it seemed very reasonable. Ask any of the girls or the management.

Gents.

I have narrowed my choices to 3 buildings for a month rental, all executive condo's,

I have read reviews on 2 of them Bayfront Towers, and Pacific Sky, but can't find any reviews on Element Boutique Condo's.

From the map, they all look within blocks of each other, and love the idea of a jacuzzi on the balcony at Element, but has anyone know of or actually rented in this building condo is on th 19th floor.

Any help would be appreciated

Nowrath

What does a short term rental like that go for? Feel free to PM if you want.

Thanks

It is 9:38pm and I see 35 girls in my vision. I am curious to see how the night develops.

Viper10

[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate; 1303381]What does a short term rental like that go for? Feel free to PM if you want.

Thanks[/QUOTE]For the month, with all utilities paid and wifi, and weekly cleaning,

Element $2600.

Pacific Sky $2300.

Bayfront $2300

Hi,

Can someone tell me what it is like to tranfer flights at Panama`s Tocumen International airport?

I will be flying in from Amsterdam using KLM then I have a 3hr transfer for me next flight with AeroRepublic to Medellin, is Tocumen a stright forward airport to transfer in?

I am looking at collecting my luggage at Tocument to be sure it has made it there then check it in with AeroRepublic rather than hope it gets transferred onto my flight to Medellin.

Would appreciate any help.

[QUOTE=Superboy1; 1303997]Hi,

Can someone tell me what it is like to tranfer flights at Panama`s Tocumen International airport?

I will be flying in from Amsterdam using KLM then I have a 3hr transfer for me next flight with AeroRepublic to Medellin, is Tocumen a stright forward airport to transfer in?

I am looking at collecting my luggage at Tocument to be sure it has made it there then check it in with AeroRepublic rather than hope it gets transferred onto my flight to Medellin.

Would appreciate any help.[/QUOTE]It is an easy going place, you should have no problems.

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1303997]I am looking at collecting my luggage at Tocumen to be sure it has made it there then check it in with AeroRepublic rather than hope it gets transferred onto my flight to Medellin.[/QUOTE]The baggage claim is beyond immigration, so you'll be dealing with that. KLM should give you more direction when you check the bags, but I don't think you'll have any problem with the transfer in Panama. AeroRepublica is Copa, and they rule the roost at PTY, usually efficiently.

The airport is relatively comfortable, now that they opened the food court upstairs and a couple of bars. During the day, there usually are a slew of hotties modeling sports cars and hawking perfume and booze in the terminal.

Has anyone stayed at this hotel before, trying to find out if it is GF friendly?

I spent a few weeks in Brazil and when heading back to the US decided to spend one day in Panama. Last Thursday night I was there and checked into the Veneto. As I posted that day, at 9:38pm there were 38 girls working. I would say during the course of the night at a very low estimate 60, at least 70 and probably more. I didn't mind the quality as I like the atmosphere more than Costa. I get to eat sushi downstairs, have drinks at the bar or table, play some blackjack, and get couple Colombians all without leaving the hotel. Granted this will never be a top mongering destination, but it is worth something. With Brazil on the decline, and with a lot of the termas closed when I was there, I will be headed to BA for my next South American trip. Let me be clear, Rio on the decline, meaning harder to find, termas closed because of Rio+20 and / or Olympics, and sky rocketing prices. Thanks.

Viper10

[QUOTE=Viper10; 1305205]I spent a few weeks in Brazil and when heading back to the US decided to spend one day in Panama. Last Thursday night I was there and checked into the Veneto. As I posted that day, at 9:38pm there were 38 girls working. I would say during the course of the night at a very low estimate 60, at least 70 and probably more. I didn't mind the quality as I like the atmosphere more than Costa. I get to eat sushi downstairs, have drinks at the bar or table, play some blackjack, and get couple Colombians all without leaving the hotel. Granted this will never be a top mongering destination, but it is worth something. With Brazil on the decline, and with a lot of the termas closed when I was there, I will be headed to BA for my next South American trip. Let me be clear, Rio on the decline, meaning harder to find, termas closed because of Rio+20 and / or Olympics, and sky rocketing prices. Thanks.

Viper10[/QUOTE]That is VERY hard to believe, when I spoke to a cab driver the other day and he said its been quite. Haven't seen that many women since 2008

[QUOTE=Snipps;1305214]That is VERY hard to believe, when I spoke to a cab driver the other day and he said its been quite. Haven't seen that many women since 2008[/QUOTE]I hope it is the case that it hasnt died completely, I was there 3 weeks ago and it was poor, saying that it was a Tuesday night so may have been quieter. Maybe the cops ease up on the Thursday. I hope so, I'm going there next week, looking to extend my stay a bit so I can enjoy some pussy.

[QUOTE=Love Handler;1305389]I hope it is the case that it hasnt died completely, I was there 3 weeks ago and it was poor, saying that it was a Tuesday night so may have been quieter. Maybe the cops ease up on the Thursday. I hope so, I'm going there next week, looking to extend my stay a bit so I can enjoy some pussy.[/QUOTE]I was in Panama in May 2011 and it was dead as hell in Veneto and Habanos but the massage parlors were on fire, fast forward to two weeks ago and it was the complete opposite. Veneto was packed full of chicas and the massage parlors were horrible. I am not sure what to make of the place still but all in all it was a pretty good time.

I was in the Veneto last week and there were many ie 50+ girls available. Also I saw girls in Manolos and the side street between via espana and via Argentina. The girls are smart and move around to avoid attention. For example if there is a soccer game or fight that draw a lot of people (non working girls and locals) to the bar area then the worker girls tend to move away from the bar and to the slot machines all around the casino.

I have an apartment in the Cangrejo and I know many worker girls rent rooms in the area, in my building on the 4th floor there are 9 colombianas sharing a 3 bedroom apt. Another colombiana that works at Goldentimes is married and goes to "work" she bought a new car in 6 months. I've seen her, cute girl about 5'3" bolt ons on top and injections on the butt.

I prefer the locals. Many students and divorced women with kids, lots of options.

Superboy, I agree with Tp Horn and the Pirate. It's an efficient airport. If I were in your shoes I'd try to check the luggage all the way to your destination. Sometimes there are long lines at immigration, up to maybe 30 minutes. If your KLM flight is late you may miss your connection.

[QUOTE=Travel Fool;1300791]No way I am eating at a place called The Crazy Anuses ("Los Anos Locos")! Years = años.[/QUOTE]The real name of the place is "Los Años Locos". Perhaps the poster did not know how to type "ñ", (alt+164), or (alt+0241).

[QUOTE=Snipps;1305214]That is VERY hard to believe, when I spoke to a cab driver the other day and he said its been quite. Haven't seen that many women since 2008[/QUOTE]60 women is quite possible but the problem now is the quality of the chicas and the service you get. Out of 60 there are probably less than five 8+'s and of those 5 probably 1 gives good service. Also, depending on immigration raids or even rumors of raids determines the qty of chicas that show up on any particular night. All this and the carrot law. I will pass.

[QUOTE=Bbond;1309745]The real name of the place is "Los Años Locos". Perhaps the poster did not know how to type "ñ", (alt+164), or (alt+0241).[/QUOTE]I knew how to type the "ñ", just didn't expect to be held so accountable for grammar on a gringo / monger posting board.

[QUOTE=The Dirty Pirate;1305928]I was in Panama in May 2011 and it was dead as hell in Veneto and Habanos but the massage parlors were on fire, fast forward to two weeks ago and it was the complete opposite. Veneto was packed full of chicas and the massage parlors were horrible. I am not sure what to make of the place still but all in all it was a pretty good time.[/QUOTE]I agree, I was there 3 weeks ago and was impressed by the selection of chicas at Habanos & the Veneto. The quality of girls at the MP's were horrible. Not to mention the crazy prices they're charging. I went to Oasis they had 1 average girl & 3 ugly girls to choose from at the same price you could pick a beauty from the Veneto or Habanos. The guy quoted me $42 for the room + the girl's fee. I also checked out Hawaii Center, they only had 2 ugly girls working.

Has anyone stayed at Hotel Milan?

And if so, what are your views of the place?

Hello,

I have stayed at the Hotel Milan many times in the past. Rate if you pay in cash is about $57 a night."Officially", they do not allow you to bring a guest. But, in reality you can. You be low key and subtle about it when you enter the lobby. Go straight to the elevator and go to your room. The rooms are nice and big with TV. Very clean. Only down is they are a little spartan. Just a few minute walk to the Veneto or a 5-10 minute trip to Habanos by Taxi for $3. 00. Never ask the cab driver how much, just give him $3. 00 after you get out and walk away. I like the place. Well located at a fair price.

[QUOTE=Viva Chicas; 1311785]Hello,

I have stayed at the Hotel Milan many times in the past. Rate if you pay in cash is about $57 a night."Officially", they do not allow you to bring a guest. But, in reality you can. You be low key and subtle about it when you enter the lobby. Go straight to the elevator and go to your room. The rooms are nice and big with TV. Very clean. Only down is they are a little spartan. Just a few minute walk to the Veneto or a 5-10 minute trip to Habanos by Taxi for $3. 00. Never ask the cab driver how much, just give him $3. 00 after you get out and walk away. I like the place. Well located at a fair price.[/QUOTE]Great intel on Hotel Milan, thank you. FYI, taxi ride should be about $1. 50 to Habanos, after 10pm and on Sundays, $2. 00 max- if you are driving alone.

Thanks for that Hotel Milan info! Planning a trip for next April, then fly to Costa Rica from Panama.

I go to Panama monthly on biz and have been staying at the Veneto. There is a small daytime shift but things get going after 8. Around 10 it gets real busy, at least 50 girls maybe more. Selection from 2's to 10's. The 10's want $200 to $250 but will do 2 hours. One of them was a beautiful a girl as I have ever seen. Had a 9 one night for $150 service was so so. Probably could have gotten her for cien but saving a couple of bucks is not that important to me. Another night had an 8 from Colombia and everything was one the table! GFE with a little PSE asian which lasted as long as I desired. 2 shots. She asked for $100 and I tipped her for the fine service. Had her again last night and she was so happy to get a repeat she just couldn't do enough for me. Todo la noche $300.

Anybody got any recent news about Boca Toreña, Casco viejo, Fish market, Calle K or El Capitan?

Looking to maybe check out that area next week.

Hey cbreeze11 would you have the contact info for the pse asian?

[QUOTE=Cbreeze11;1313626]I go to Panama monthly on biz and have been staying at the Veneto. There is a small daytime shift but things get going after 8. Around 10 it gets real busy, at least 50 girls maybe more. Selection from 2's to 10's. The 10's want $200 to $250 but will do 2 hours. One of them was a beautiful a girl as I have ever seen. Had a 9 one night for $150 service was so so. Probably could have gotten her for cien but saving a couple of bucks is not that important to me. Another night had an 8 from Colombia and everything was one the table! GFE with a little PSE asian which lasted as long as I desired. 2 shots. She asked for $100 and I tipped her for the fine service. Had her again last night and she was so happy to get a repeat she just couldn't do enough for me. Todo la noche $300.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Viva Chicas; 1311785]Cactus J

I have stayed at the Hotel Milan many times in the past. Rate if you pay in cash is about $57 a night."Officially", they do not allow you to bring a guest. But, in reality you can. You be low key and subtle about it when you enter the lobby. Go straight to the elevator and go to your room. The rooms are nice and big with TV. Very clean. Only down is they are a little spartan. Just a few minute walk to the Veneto or a 5-10 minute trip to Habanos by Taxi for $3. 00. Never ask the cab driver how much, just give him $3. 00 after you get out and walk away. I like the place. Well located at a fair price.[/QUOTE]Hello, The Hotel Milan says $ 227 per night for 2 nights 3rd free on their webpage. How do you get the $ 57 nite rate?

Thanks for your help!

Quick summary from a friend of mine that was down there this past weekend.

Wed night- good night. 30 + girls-10 girls he recognized from his prior trip down there.

Thurs night. Ok 20 + Girls 10 same from night before.

Friday. Horrible, maybe about 15 girls. 10-12 from night before as well. Security was all over them.

Saturday- Worse night. About 15 girls all from the previous nights.

All women at the veneto he said ranged from 1-6, no 7, 8 or 9s. Maybe one he saw was a 9 and she didn't want to go below 200.

To sum up, there is no talent down there, and its always the same women. Worse stay ever he said. He was there for FOUR nights and ended up with only 2 women. Felt bad for him. He said he went over to habanos a few nights, but they had maybe 10-15 girls. Nothing to ride home about. The place officially has gone down the shitter.

Love Handler I know you are there today. Send us some info. I am sure its the same. Look for a 19th year old there, her name is Beatriz. He said she was a winner!

I was at the Veneto on Friday and it was okay, took a quick look at Casco Viejo, the old town. La Mayor and La Boca Torena are busy places, lots of panamanian men, poor quality girls don't go. Call K was terrible didn't even get out of the taxi, looked way dodgy and not lively like Bogota.

I managed to score a black girl Brenda from Cali at the Veneto who did everything for $80 plus a tip. I could tell she wasnt having much business and the lighter skinned colombian girls get more attention which leaves the chocolate for me. Once you go black.

I got DFK, BBBJ and the ride of my life. She was a great fuck, great pussy and body. Didn't get her number as she is only here for 1 month more.

The Veneto was the only good place on a Monday night, Miami is dead as are all the other clubs because the girls rest and get STD checkups on Tuesday.

Ddint make it out anywhere last night we dined with 2 panamian girls and I got some non pro action. She was so wet and horny, hadn't been fucked in ages, fucked her for a lifetime and then she let me cum in her mouth. Sweet ending to the trip.

My girlfriend and I are coming to Panama City for six nights in October. If I'm lucky and she's in the mood, we'll look for chica for a threesome. However, I always have to approach the chica thing carefully and I don't want her to feel too uncomfortable if the chica scene at the Veneto is too obvious. Otherwise I end up being unlucky. Would the Veneto be the best place to stay?

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di;1319191]My girlfriend and I are coming to Panama City for six nights in October. If I'm lucky and she's in the mood, we'll look for chica for a threesome. However, I always have to approach the chica thing carefully and I don't want her to feel too uncomfortable if the chica scene at the Veneto is too obvious. Otherwise I end up being unlucky. Would the Veneto be the best place to stay?[/QUOTE]My advice! If your girlfriend is a keeper this is a bad plan. If she is transitional go ahead and have fun. Stuff like this can come back to haunt you.

Why are you misers bargaining on a poor cab drivers taxi fares.

When at the same time you are giving filthy working girls hundred of dollars.

And paying hotels high dollars to use their fuckedup beds.

Just to dump your garbage.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1312087]Great intel on Hotel Milan, thank you. FYI, taxi ride should be about $1. 50 to Habanos, after 10pm and on Sundays, $2. 00 max- if you are driving alone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You69Me; 1324953]Why are you misers bargaining on a poor cab drivers taxi fares.

When at the same time you are giving filthy working girls hundred of dollars.

And paying hotels high dollars to use their fuckedup beds.

Just to dump your garbage.[/QUOTE]Not sure if you are addressing me with all of that or not, but I can assure you I don't over-pay girls or hotels. Why does paying the legal rate and nnot wanting to be taken advantage of make someone a miser?

Work is taking me to Panama for two weeks. I'll be in Panama City primarily but am taking 3 days off to go to one of the Pacific Beach resorts.

Can anyone tell me:

- Did the Crazy Horse strip club shut down? Looks like it is / was a good place.

- Are there working girls at the casino across from the newish Hard Rock Hotel?

- Can one bring up women if I were to say at the Hard Rock?

I know I will be venturing out to check out Habanos to smoke a Cuban and check out the ladies there. Hoping to find a few talented Columbianas to bring back to my room.

Thanks,

CiepkaHunter

[QUOTE=You69Me; 1324953]Why are you misers bargaining on a poor cab drivers taxi fares.

When at the same time you are giving filthy working girls hundred of dollars.[/QUOTE]Easy answer here!

Poor cab drivers are not fun to touch, lick, and fuck!

Filthy working girls? You might be in the wrong forum. I think that you might be better off in the Mister Rogers' Forum.

[QUOTE=Ciepkahunter;1325375]- Are there working girls at the casino across from the newish Hard Rock Hotel?[/QUOTE]The Hard Rock is only a couple of months old. The Majestic Casino is in the mall, which in turn is directly connected through a pedestrian bridge.

I've never seen obvious hookers there, certainly not like the hordes at the Veneto. Maybe it has changed with the opening of the Hard Rock.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn; 1325648]The Hard Rock is only a couple of months old. The Majestic Casino is in the mall, which in turn is directly connected through a pedestrian bridge.

I've never seen obvious hookers there, certainly not like the hordes at the Veneto. Maybe it has changed with the opening of the Hard Rock.[/QUOTE]There are usually 1-5 hookers in the Majestic at night- pretty obvious to spot playing slots by themselves or in small groups.

This might not be directly related to Panama, but the personal contacts tab has been removed from all world regions of mundoanuncio. Might have been some big prostitution crack down. Now it has become a little harder to locate girls without having to make an in situ exploration for talent.

Just FYI

Ads are now under the heading "services"

Look under masaje-spas, also click on "otras"

I was staying at the Veneto on Tuesday night and can report as follows:

I met up with a friend at Habanos at 10pm and the place was full. There were a large number of hot looking girls many 9s. I have never seen it so busy and with so many good looking chicas, must be new blood.

At 11pm we moved on to the Veneto, not the same level of quality however many of the chicas if they don't find a john in Habanos move onto the casino and vice versa.

Actually theres a constant stream between the 2 places. I did see a girl from Cartagena, who was an 8, in the casino who had been at Habanos. However she was requesting 150 dollars and didn't want to do BBBJ so I said no thanks.

There were a lot of girls in the Casino, what a change from just a few weeks ago. From 5s up to 8s maybe 1 or 2 9s. I don't think things have gotten worse or better, I just think it depends on what you night you go to these places and at what time. It seems to also depend on local politics between the government and police. You can walk round the casino see nothing walk round 20 mitues later and see some hot girls who have just arrived.

Similarly the amount of times I have seen hot girls leaving on the escalators wanting to shout "come back!", but a sign of desperation isn't a good starting point for negociating.

One thing that must be borne in mind is that each day some girls come from Colombia, some leave, some get picked up by the cops some get taken away for the night. You can never really rely on having the same night twice.

I expect that things are more easier to monitor in Costa Rica or Republica Dominicana because it is always at a high level where Panama City can be like night and day sometimes. That being said, if you happen to be vistiting Panama City just now you can get a very hot girl at Habanos just expect that it won't be cheap, but you get what you pay for. I expect to go back with some money and sample even if the service might not be 100% because some were just so damn pretty.

I myself took a panamanian girl back to the room who wasnt the prettiest in the casion nor the biggest fake tits, but she agreed to everything, was cheap, satisfied me and more importantly can come round and give me a BBBJ after getting off the plane. Sometimes 10-11pm is quite late and we want some action early on, which is harder to come by in Panama.

Anyway looking forward to going back in 2 weeks time, just hope it is like 2 nights ago.

Will be at Veneto 9/21-9/24, if you want to trade some mongering tales hit me up with a PM.

Need some advice on where to go for a massage. PM me

[QUOTE=Mason419;1330249]Need some advice on where to go for a massage. PM me[/QUOTE]The closest place is Oasis, on southwest side of Via Veneto, below ground level, between the Panama and Veneto hotels. The best, if you can wait until after 7:30 PM and don't mind a 10 to 15 minute trip by taxi, is Golden Time, in Plaza Mirage on Tumba Muerto (also known as Ricardo J. Alfaro.) I'm assuming you're looking to get laid, not for just a massage.

Are the working girls in Panama, mainly Colombian? Or are there Panamanians as well?

[quote=joe shmoe;1339543]are the working girls in panama, mainly colombian? or are there panamanians as well?[/quote]

i've been mongering in panama for 3 years now, off and on, and my experience is the overwhelming majority of both the pros and semi-pros in the clubs are colombians. have met a few from venezuela and a rep001tering of beauties from the dominican republic and elsewhere in central america, but not too many. i've met a tiny handful of panamanian fl's in places like club habanos and the veneto, but with just one notable exception, definitely not up to grade vs. the damas de colombia.

no offense meant to my dear panamanian friends, as i truly love them as a people. but there is a reason why panamanian men aspire to date and marry colombianas, and why panamanian women generally dislike their lusty 'sisters' from the south.

just my. 02 worth. please report back your impressions.

[quote=rippa; 1339699]i've been mongering in panama for 3 years now, off and on, and my experience is the overwhelming majority of both the pros and semi-pros in the clubs are colombians. have met a few from venezuela and a rep001tering of beauties from the dominican republic and elsewhere in central america, but not too many. i've met a tiny handful of panamanian fl's in places like club habanos and the veneto, but with just one notable exception, definitely not up to grade vs. the damas de colombia.

no offense meant to my dear panamanian friends, as i truly love them as a people. but there is a reason why panamanian men aspire to date and marry colombianas, and why panamanian women generally dislike their lusty 'sisters' from the south.

just my. 02 worth. please report back your impressions.[/quote]there is something to be said for a colombiana aside from pure looks also. they seem to exude sexuality. also, by in large in bed they are fantastic. even there good time boxes. seem to be softer and better than most other latinas

Will be in Panama soon and would to know about the quality and quanity of chicas at

Places such as Veneto, Habanos and Golden Time. It will be my first time there and I'll.

Only be there a few days. Would like to meet anyone that lives there or is familar with

The scene.

Thanks

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Hit Panama over the 9. 12 Nov weekend. Stayed at veneto hotel. Lots of good choices at the casino and also Habamos. But if you really just want to cut to the chase. Do your shopping at Habamos anytime after 9pm. That is where the best quality of chicas are hanging. Mostly Colombians. There is no need to pay over Cien.

Club Ashe on Calle Uruguay on both Fri and Sat night was pretty good. If you need a reference point it's down the block from Hooters. Cover was maybe $5 or $8, I can't recall. A promo they were running for a big bottle and half bottle of Arguardiente was $40. Beers were $2-$3. Probably the closest thing I've seen to Help in Rio on this side of the world-meaning all freelancers, all pretty hot, most wanted $200-300 for TLN. I think short-time prices quoted were around $100-150. Good music too, typical Panamanian reggaeton / dancehall with the dj constantly chattering on the mic to hype up the crowd. *On a late late hour on Sat (5AM) going into Sunday the place was still going strong and turned into an after-hours spot of sorts, deep house and trance music-I heard the party will go till 8-9am. I pulled a 26 yo Panamanian girl out of there around 5:30a for a five hour (chem fueled) TLN rate of $100. Gave her $150 because she was awesome and also let me do her butthole.

Stopped by Elite on Sat night around 10pm. $30 cover includes open bar. The talent was pretty amazing, stunners everywhere with sculpted bodies that only a plastic surgeon could truly appreciate. Almost all Colombianas, at least 50 girls, strip shows, bachelor parties galore here. Didn't get prices for sessions or TLN but did get a phone number from a solid 9 who wanted to hang the next day. Never followed up. My buddy also got a number from a girl who did come by two days later and spent a solid 7 hours with him, no charge. She dialed up a friend for me who was a 20 cutie sweetheart from Manizales who also stayed for a good 4-5 hours, truly GFE, great body. She never asked for money but I slipped her $120 when she was leaving and she was cool with that-she was more concerned about connecting win me on twitter and FB.

Monday night at 7:30pm at the spot next door to La Mayor was prime-time. No cover, $1. 25 beers and about 30-45 girls, but that was tough to count as they are in and out of the back rooms often. Very seedy-if you've been to MDE, it's basically an indoor version of La Mayorista. Cheap at only $15 for 15 mins which includes the price of the room. The smell in the place is pretty off-putting, you really have to brave it for about 20 minutes before you start getting accustomed to it. A lot of fuglies but there were at least 10 very doable that I would give a 7. 5-8. 5. Mostly all colombianas. By comparison La Mayor was still charging a $3 cover and had a very dead atmosphere with only 15 girls max.

Tried a few times to convince my buddies to take a ride over to Colon to check out the scene and provide an update to the awesome times I reported on some years back, but it just never worked out.

Dinner at Miraflores was nice, restaurant overlooking the Panama Canal and locks. Get there early before it starts to get dark and ask for a table outside. $30 per person, buffet style.

Good report Bonhead. I arrive early 3am at PTY on a Thursday and guess it will be at least 4am by the time I check in at Veneto. Is there still talent at Veneto that time, these days? Are the night clubs you mentioned open at that hour on weekdays? How about Le Mayor and Boca Torena (the place next to Le Mayor) , are they still hopping early in the morning?

My initial POA would be to check in and find something at Veneto for a double nut. 1 to 2 hrs. I would only head out if that fails. If Veneto is out of the running, I am thinking of only checking in the next day to save some dough. Anyone know of a cheapie place by Boca Torena / Mayor to put my bags in and spend few hours at those venues and freshen up before I head to Veneto where its a 4 pm check in? Any feedback from Panama Vets appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[quote=rippa; 1339699]i've been mongering in panama for 3 years now, off and on, and my experience is the overwhelming majority of both the pros and semi-pros in the clubs are colombians. have met a few from venezuela and a rep001tering of beauties from the dominican republic and elsewhere in central america, but not too many. i've met a tiny handful of panamanian fl's in places like club habanos and the veneto, but with just one notable exception, definitely not up to grade vs. the damas de colombia.

no offense meant to my dear panamanian friends, as i truly love them as a people. but there is a reason why panamanian men aspire to date and marry colombianas, and why panamanian women generally dislike their lusty 'sisters' from the south.

just my. 02 worth. please report back your impressions.[/quote]thats true. panamanians are cold blooded, trained to marry, have kids and be the home matriarch, period. colombianas are caring, sexy, sensual everything else the panamanians lack. i've yet to met a panamanian as hot in body and in mind as their colombiana counterparts!

[QUOTE=Bonhead;1349226]*On a late late hour on Sat (5AM) going into Sunday the place was still going strong and turned into an after-hours spot of sorts, deep house and trance music-I heard the party will go till 8-9am.[/QUOTE]You might have hit ashe on a break weekend for the zanahoria law. The Mayor has authority to declare tomate law (spanish tomate for tomate todo lo que quieras or drink all you want). The Zanahoria Law is in full effect, closing sun-wed at 2am thurs-sat at 3am.

Most probably, there will be tomate law in effect the weekend of nov 23-24, as there is a holiday on Wednesday 28th, but the goverment moved the festivity for Monday 26th. This will be a long weekend

Mundoanuncio has finally meet its end. No personals are being listed, as you are redirected to another domain when you choose a country, and there are no personals section

I am going to answer my own question. Veneto is damn well and alive, so much for the carrot law crap. Who cares if they stop serving alcohol at 2 or 3, the casino goes well after and so do the damas, some freakin hot, I almost feel like I am in Brazil. The Cali chicas are the hottest of them all, Panamanians are second IMO. Spent several hours at Bocatorena today and I can write a book about it. I almost left in the first few minutes, but braved it with a beer and the got rewarded with a fine and unique mongering experience. You can't expect to finish the deed here every time, the knock on the door comes well before the so called 20 mins, but as I found a dollar tip discreetly to the guy who knocks will buy you a good 10 mins more. Its like an appetizer platter, you can try several of them for $15 each, less than what you pay for a lap dance in the US. The place reeks but I got over it in a little bit, there's almost a 100 girls in there, some with a 10 body and I can tell you for 15 bucks, you can't beat that. Everyone from the street cleaner to a taxi driver is in there, not for the faint of heart. Le mayor is more mellow and a bit upscale but after boca I was bored at mayor.

Just had a taxi guy outside Veneto get me some chilled beer (he actually got them in an ice bag) after the 3am cutoff. Won some dinero at the BJ tables as I expected though it took a while this time, if you can't win here you can't win anywhere else!

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1349909]Good report Bonhead. I arrive early 3am at PTY on a Thursday and guess it will be at least 4am by the time I check in at Veneto. Is there still talent at Veneto that time, these days? Are the night clubs you mentioned open at that hour on weekdays? How about Le Mayor and Boca Torena (the place next to Le Mayor) , are they still hopping early in the morning?

My initial POA would be to check in and find something at Veneto for a double nut. 1 to 2 hrs. I would only head out if that fails. If Veneto is out of the running, I am thinking of only checking in the next day to save some dough. Anyone know of a cheapie place by Boca Torena / Mayor to put my bags in and spend few hours at those venues and freshen up before I head to Veneto where its a 4 pm check in? Any feedback from Panama Vets appreciated. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

So I decided to check out bocatorena again on Saturday evening. Bad idea. Wall to wall people, too many hombres this nite. I couldn't find the door to the other bar, this place is basically a duplex with two sides that have their own bars and own private rooms in the back. The rooms behind the main entrance are better. I had to leave right away since the situation was a serious safety hazard just given the number of people in there. I went on Thursday previoulsy and it was much better.

Then I went to Mayor, the girls here hustle you a bit, they want you to buy a small pitcher of beer for $20 first, not worth in IMO. Once you get close to finishing it they start asking for another, BullShit. I walked out at that point. It doesn't make sense to do this if you don't even speak Spanish. When I was in Le mayor last year I did not have to go thru this, if a girl asks you for a pitcher think twice if you really want to waste $20. The pitcher is not more than 3 bottles (1. 20$ each).

Update on Veneto. Seems like Veneto only allows about 50 girls each nite starting around 8pm. If you go to the side entrance which takes you to the Fiesta casino / El Panama hotel around 7:30 PM you will see a parade of WG's waiting to get in. Those that arrive after the cutoff wait outside the main entrance waiting for a guest to take them in as they cannot go in alone. Security is really tough on these girls now, wasn't the case last year. Looks like the regular hardcore ones always get in, they know their way in. Check outside for the fresher ones later in the night, the one's outside are pretty negotiable since their entering the casino depends on you. Once you are done with them then they can hang out in the casino and continue working.

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1352270]I am going to answer my own question. Veneto is damn well and alive, so much for the carrot law crap. Who cares if they stop serving alcohol at 2 or 3, the casino goes well after and so do the damas, some freakin hot, I almost feel like I am in Brazil. The Cali chicas are the hottest of them all, Panamanians are second IMO. Spent several hours at Bocatorena today and I can write a book about it. I almost left in the first few minutes, but braved it with a beer and the got rewarded with a fine and unique mongering experience. You can't expect to finish the deed here every time, the knock on the door comes well before the so called 20 mins, but as I found a dollar tip discreetly to the guy who knocks will buy you a good 10 mins more. Its like an appetizer platter, you can try several of them for $15 each, less than what you pay for a lap dance in the US. The place reeks but I got over it in a little bit, there's almost a 100 girls in there, some with a 10 body and I can tell you for 15 bucks, you can't beat that. Everyone from the street cleaner to a taxi driver is in there, not for the faint of heart. Le mayor is more mellow and a bit upscale but after boca I was bored at mayor.

Just had a taxi guy outside Veneto get me some chilled beer (he actually got them in an ice bag) after the 3am cutoff. Won some dinero at the BJ tables as I expected though it took a while this time, if you can't win here you can't win anywhere else![/QUOTE]

Friends, I have a 4 hour evening layover in Panama and I am interested in a spot near there airport where I can find willing chicas.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Travelier; 1355261]Friends, I have a 4 hour evening layover in Panama and I am interested in a spot near there airport where I can find willing chicas.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Go to Golden Time. It's between the airport and downtown, kind of. Don't go if your flight coming in is late or if it takes a lot of time to clear immigration. You'll need maybe 30 minutes to get there and 30 minutes to get back. Also take into account that it doesn't open until 7:00 PM or 7:30 PM -- I can't remember which. It's better going early btw -- the selection is better.

[QUOTE=Kman1;1352270]Who cares if they stop serving alcohol at 2 or 3, the casino goes well after and so do the damas[/QUOTE]Hey Kman,

Don't know if you are aware that you can actually order alcohol to your room, as the law doesn't cover your room since its considered your private house, so you can drink as you please

Does anyone know if Continental Hotel is chica friendly? Can I bring chicks to my room?

Hello TkNadim:

The Hotel Continental is NOT guest friendly. When you find your true love, have a taxi take you Los Arcos. This is a very nice short time hotel. The price is $13 for two hours. 5 minutes away by taxi.

[QUOTE=GauntMan; 1359908]Hey Kman,

Don't know if you are aware that you can actually order alcohol to your room, as the law doesn't cover your room since its considered your private house, so you can drink as you please[/QUOTE]Thanks GauntMan. They hid this secret pretty well from me. ;-)

Hello everyone,

I am planning a small 2 days trip to Panama city on my way to Colombia.

Is there a Panama City map or list of places?

Check out Google maps, very detailed.

[QUOTE=Lusifer69; 1364852]Hello everyone,

I am planning a small 2 days trip to Panama city on my way to Colombia.

Is there a Panama City map or list of places?[/QUOTE]Unlike other cities I've never seen a map of places in Panama City. There aren't many- the Veneto is right on Via Veneto, every taxi driver will know it. Habanos is right across from the Marriott Hotel in Obarrio. Golden Time is on Tumba Muerto in El Dorrado- near Novey. Club Miami (not recommended IMHO) is in El Dorado near the Nikos Cafe. Ashe is on Calle Uruguay. Le Palace (Very High priced) is around the corner from Habanos. You will also catch some girls at the Manolos diner across from the Veneto hotel.

Gentlemen,

Does anyone have experience with Trump Ocean Club in PTY? Is it guest-friendly? Is there any "action" within reasonable walking distance? How long is a taxi ride to the well known establishments?

I really appreciate any and all comments.

/Lucky Strike/

[QUOTE=Lusifer69; 1364852]Hello everyone,

I am planning a small 2 days trip to Panama city on my way to Colombia.

Is there a Panama City map or list of places?[/QUOTE]I can't get links to work, but go Fantasy's post #1737 on 7/25/2007 for a map. I nominated that as a report of distinction and also provided a list in post #18 in Reports of Distinction. The preceding are for downtown locations. You should also go to Golden Time. The map is little dated but the major hot spots, being Veneto Casino, Habano's, Oasis, Le Palace and Elite are still around and going strong.

[QUOTE=Lucky Strike; 1366268]Gentlemen,

Does anyone have experience with Trump Ocean Club in PTY? Is it guest-friendly? Is there any "action" within reasonable walking distance? How long is a taxi ride to the well known establishments?

I really appreciate any and all comments.

/Lucky Strike/[/QUOTE]I have no personal experience but think I read somewhere that it is guest friendly. Don't take my word for it though. It's not that far from downtown hotspots, but if the traffic's bad you could be looking at 30 minutes. If not maybe 10 minutes. I don't know of any PFP action in the immediate area.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1366573]I have no personal experience but think I read somewhere that it is guest friendly. Don't take my word for it though. It's not that far from downtown hotspots, but if the traffic's bad you could be looking at 30 minutes. If not maybe 10 minutes. I don't know of any PFP action in the immediate area.[/QUOTE]Thanks Tiny 12. This is the kind of info I was looking for. After living for a number of years in a small town, I definitely need to be reminded about the traffic. On google maps it all looks fairly close together. Maybe 1. 5-2mi. Seems like I can cover the distance by walking in less than 30min. Is it safe to walk to the "action zone" from Trump? During day? During night?

/L. S/

Sorry for the late reply LS, I haven't been following the board. Sounds like you've got a map. I'd feel reasonably safe walking on Avenida Balboa, Calle Uruguay, Via Espana, or Via Veneto any hour of the day or night. The walk from Calle Uruguay or Elite to Le Palace or Habano's is a little sketchy late at night. Taxis are cheap though, and late at night there's no traffic. Avenida Balboa is where you sometimes have problems with traffic. It's getting from Trump to downtown that can be a problem at times, although usually it's quicker to take a taxi. Once you're in the area where the hot spots are, traffic's usually not a problem.

[QUOTE=Lusifer69; 1364852]...Is there a Panama City map or list of places?[/QUOTE]The only map that I have ever seen posted.

-Helpmann :)

Gentlemen;

I'm a long time monger, first time in PTY next month. From what I've read, seems like Veneto is the place to stay. Looking for some current info on quality, prices and locations. Short Time and all nighters. What are the terms for MSOG, BBBJ, Greek?

I'll be in Panama City for a few days in a couple of weeks, staying at the Holiday Inn Panama Canal in Ciudad del Saber (I don't get any choice about this). My preference would be to get girls outcall to the hotel from agencies, but I would appreciate if anyone has local intelligence for me.

Do you know whether I will have any problem with outcall visits to this hotel? Anything I should know? Security guys to tip?

Is there a better way to enjoy some girls while I am there? I won't have much time, don't speak Spanish, and will probably be a bit jetlagged (coming from Europe) , so would prefer something easy, rather than a night-long tour of Panama City's most exciting brothels.

Many thanks!

Prince Zorn

Does anyone know if the Doubletree hotel on Espana Ave is Girl Friendly?

Thank you

[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1370785]The only map that I have ever seen posted.

-Helpmann.[/QUOTE]The PTY thread hasn't been very "popular" lately, so every informative posting is truly appreciated.

I'll add my trip reports in a few weeks.

L. S.

[QUOTE=Zorn Of Zorna; 1371658]I'll be in Panama City for a few days in a couple of weeks, staying at the Holiday Inn Panama Canal in Ciudad del Saber (I don't get any choice about this). My preference would be to get girls outcall to the hotel from agencies, but I would appreciate if anyone has local intelligence for me.

Do you know whether I will have any problem with outcall visits to this hotel? Anything I should know? Security guys to tip?

Is there a better way to enjoy some girls while I am there? I won't have much time, don't speak Spanish, and will probably be a bit jetlagged (coming from Europe) , so would prefer something easy, rather than a night-long tour of Panama City's most exciting brothels.

Many thanks!

Prince Zorn[/QUOTE]You can go to incall places like Golden Time, Gold Finger Club Miami etc. You can use the cheap "push" hotels to bring independent girls to.

[QUOTE=Zorn Of Zorna;1371658]I'll be in Panama City for a few days in a couple of weeks, staying at the Holiday Inn Panama Canal in Ciudad del Saber (I don't get any choice about this). My preference would be to get girls outcall to the hotel from agencies,[/QUOTE] You could try [url]http://www.girlpanama.com/.[/url] I used them once about a year ago. Cost was $150 for about an hour, although I note they have some women on the web site for $80 to $90. Service was excellent, and I believe she was the woman in the photo. They didn't show her face in the photos though, and so she was less attractive than I expected. She would have gone for $100 or less at Veneto or Habano's. I've met but not fucked a second woman who's pimped on the same web site, and she was very attractive.

It's unlikely anyone here will have a clue as to whether your hotel is girl friendly, as it's off the beaten path. I'd tell them beforehand your Colombian girlfriend will be visiting you and ask them if they have a problem with you taking her to the room. If they do have a problem follow Tbuss' advice.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;1373112]I'd tell them beforehand your Colombian girlfriend will be visiting you and ask them if they have a problem with you taking her to the room.[/QUOTE]I can just see how that would go. Desk: "Yes, sir, that will be fine. What is her name?" Me: "Err."

Thanks, both for your help. It now seems I might move into town for one night as a tourist. Any recommendations for hotels other than the seemingly famous Veneto? I'd like to be not quite so obvious if my office needs to keep track of me (we have rather strict security rules).

Prince Zorn

I'd like to hear from anyone that's fairly recently been to both san jose and Panama, how do they compare in terms of mongering? I just got back from san jose and people say that its nothing like it used to be since the crackdown on immigration. So the number of girls at delrey has gone down, including many of the Colombians. I spoke with a chica in san jose and she was telling me about Panama and how hot the girls are there since they have such a variety from colombians, panamanians, dominicans, etc. So do you guys think Panama has picked up some of the talent from Costa rica?

Does anyone knows if Hotel Agua Miel, Hilton Garden Inn Panama or Hotel San Roque Panama is chica friendly?

[QUOTE=Joe Shmoe;1373951]I'd like to hear from anyone that's fairly recently been to both san jose and Panama, how do they compare in terms of mongering? I just got back from san jose and people say that its nothing like it used to be since the crackdown on immigration. So the number of girls at delrey has gone down, including many of the Colombians. I spoke with a chica in san jose and she was telling me about Panama and how hot the girls are there since they have such a variety from colombians, panamanians, dominicans, etc. So do you guys think Panama has picked up some of the talent from Costa rica?[/QUOTE]Pretty much the same thing in PC. The police raids have cut the number of Colombia's down considerably. Habanos is nothing like it was since they remodeled it; drinks and girls are both overpriced. Veneto still gets some lookers, but they limit the number that they allow in at peak hours. All in all, I prefer SJO for the variety of women, IMHO. In fact make a return to the HDR in three weeks.

[QUOTE=Zorn Of Zorna; 1373724]I can just see how that would go. Desk: "Yes, sir, that will be fine. What is her name?" Me: "Err."

Thanks, both for your help. It now seems I might move into town for one night as a tourist. Any recommendations for hotels other than the seemingly famous Veneto? I'd like to be not quite so obvious if my office needs to keep track of me (we have rather strict security rules).

Prince Zorn[/QUOTE]I recommend Tower House Suites; no guest fee, two blocks from Habanos, Hooters and Elite; 5. 6 blocks from Veneto.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1375785]Pretty much the same thing in PC. The police raids have cut the number of Colombia's down considerably. Habanos is nothing like it was since they remodeled it; drinks and girls are both overpriced. Veneto still gets some lookers, but they limit the number that they allow in at peak hours. All in all, I prefer SJO for the variety of women, IMHO. In fact make a return to the HDR in three weeks.[/QUOTE]It's slow now at Habano's because many of the girls have not come back from their Christmas holiday in Colombia. Prior to that it was pretty full. They haven't had major raids in over 1. 5 years.

For the other poster, San Roque is not guest friendly.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1375785]Pretty much the same thing in PC. The police raids have cut the number of Colombia's down considerably. Habanos is nothing like it was since they remodeled it; drinks and girls are both overpriced. Veneto still gets some lookers, but they limit the number that they allow in at peak hours. All in all, I prefer SJO for the variety of women, IMHO. In fact make a return to the HDR in three weeks.[/QUOTE]I didn't know there were crackdowns and raids in PC also. That sucks cause I love the Colombianas. Might have to go straight to the motherland!

[QUOTE=Joe Shmoe;1376391]I didn't know there were crackdowns and raids in PC also. That sucks cause I love the Colombianas. Might have to go straight to the motherland![/QUOTE]There hasnt been a crackdown in a while. I was there about 6 months ago, they did limit the amout of women that were coming intot he veneto on a nightly basis. Not sure if that is still the case. Anyone who has recently stood at the veneto, can you please share how the scene looks. Thanks

[QUOTE=Snipps;1376886]There hasnt been a crackdown in a while. I was there about 6 months ago, they did limit the amout of women that were coming intot he veneto on a nightly basis. Not sure if that is still the case. Anyone who has recently stood at the veneto, can you please share how the scene looks. Thanks[/QUOTE]Any idea what the limit is? So is the Veneto the PC version of Del rey? I'd say when I was at HDR, there were maybe 60 girls during peak times. I could be off though.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1376886]I was there about 6 months ago, they did limit the amout of women that were coming intot he veneto on a nightly basis. Not sure if that is still the case. Anyone who has recently stood at the veneto, can you please share how the scene looks.[/QUOTE]The limit seems to be self imposed. They limit the number of girls according to the number of patrons in the casino.

When males show up the quantity of ladies who are permited in are adjusted. Otherwise you would have nights where there would be a sea of bolts-on and it might lead to open warfare on the casino floor.

Just MHO.

As for the scene, the tourist season is starting so especially on weekends the place I lively. Early evening is rather calm.

Enjoy.

Mellow

[QUOTE=Mellowg; 1378017]The limit seems to be self imposed. They limit the number of girls according to the number of patrons in the casino.

When males show up the quantity of ladies who are permited in are adjusted. Otherwise you would have nights where there would be a sea of bolts-on and it might lead to open warfare on the casino floor.

Just MHO.

As for the scene, the tourist season is starting so especially on weekends the place I lively. Early evening is rather calm.

Enjoy.

Mellow[/QUOTE]The Veneto sounds really good for a 1st timer in Panama? But how about the Continental Hotel and Casino? 3 day deal on Orbitz is $100 less than for the Veneto, so that is an extra girl!

[QuOTE=Frobisher Bay;1380205]The Veneto sounds really good for a 1st timer in Panama? But how about the Continental Hotel and Casino? 3 day deal on Orbitz is $100 less than for the Veneto, so that is an extra girl![/QUOTE]Sorry FB.

Mellow

[QUOTE=Frobisher Bay;1380205]The Veneto sounds really good for a 1st timer in Panama? But how about the Continental Hotel and Casino? 3 day deal on Orbitz is $100 less than for the Veneto, so that is an extra girl![/QUOTE]At last report it was not girl friendly. If you do stay there try to get a room on one of the higher floors if you're a light sleeper like me. Traffic noise is a problem.

[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1370785]The only map that I have ever seen posted.

-Helpmann.[/QUOTE]Where can you find the original map on the web?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Frobisher Bay;1380205]The Veneto sounds really good for a 1st timer in Panama? But how about the Continental Hotel and Casino? 3 day deal on Orbitz is $100 less than for the Veneto, so that is an extra girl![/QUOTE]Traffic noise is really really bad at Continental. Plus overall the Veneto is much nicer.

I had the chance to revisit Royal Elegance recently. There were only 3 women that paraded out, none too striking. 5 to 7 tops. I picked out a colombiana who was 30-ish and a little thick, but she distributed the extra pounds well. She had a great personality, and was awesome and enthusiastic in the sack for round one, and clearly enjoyed the proceedings. Then she suggested to call in a friend for a trio, and I obliged. In came an attractive olive-skinned panameña who wasn't in the original lineup. I was very surprised, because I had never seen a panameña working girl that wasn't a morenita. She had a bit of a belly but an awesome set of naturally upstanding tits. The colombiana and I shared the panameña's pussy for a bit, but the colombiana's time expired. I continued alone on the panameña. During the oral and later intercourse she came several times with awesome guttural moans and convulsions. She seemed to have more fun than I, not that I was complaining. Very enjoyable experience.

Anyone know what's the table minimum bet for craps and BJ at the Veneto and marriott casinos?

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Dave_Far; 1387861]Anyone know what's the table minimum bet for craps and BJ at the Veneto and marriott casinos?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]The only craps tables that I'm aware of are at the Veneto and Majestic Casino, Marriott's Royal Casino does not have one. I believe the minimum bet for BJ is $3 and craps $5- could be wrong on the craps however as I haven't played it in a while.

I will be in Panama City this weekend at the Veneto if anyone wants to hang out, send a PM.

Went to PC this weekend with my girlfriend but we hung out at habanos and Veneto a lot. I did not partake in any of the action but I did a lot of looking and talking.

Panama is night and day better then when I was there about 8 months ago. Tons of girls and quite a few that were very very hot! A lot of plastic of course on the colombianas.

Asche was also very lively. We drank untill about 3am every night except Sunday and Monday. Maybe I don't remember the exact time but everyone I spoke to told me they serve untill 4am on Friday and Sat. I thought it stopped at 3am but, I think its 4am, On Sunday and Monday the bars did stop at 2am.

Stayed at the New Hard Rock Hotel, and what a great place. Just gorgeous. Only issue is the price. $4. 00 for a can of diet coke is a lot. $16 for a shot of tequila et.

I Talked to some old friends (colombianas) from years past and they all were at about $150-$200. However I am sure time and price was negotiable. Seemed as though there was more supply and demand.

The girls were still Playing on there Blackberrys all night and had that "attitude" they are famous for but, I was very impressed. I remember the good old days of PC (5 years ago) and Maybe PC is making a comeback.

I think I will be making a trip there without my GF soon.

Where to begin. After some drinks and some cheap gambling I went to Golden Times, did the usual got dropped off at the Taco Bell by the Casino, which changed it's name I can't recall what it is now. They asked if it was my first time, I told them no, they asked when I was there last, which was last May I believe. They told me some things had changed and charged me 115 for the hour. I told them I was without a taxi, they insisted it was 115 without the taxi commission. I watch the lineup come through, most of them appeared to be cold fish besides a couple, I chose #47 her name was Andrea. She starts with the massage for maybe 5 minutes or so, flips me over and touches my junk a little bit before suiting me up for a CBJ. I try to play with the titties a little bit and she stops me, starts doing the leche papi bullshit we all have grown to hate. After a couple minutes I was pretty fed up with her bullshit so I jack hammered my load out and GTFO. She was dressed and had the sheets changed before I got out of the shower. I think I was there for 25 minutes tops. Needless to say I will never go there again, I said this last May as well but now I am for sure about the decision haha. Fast forward to later on that night, I am talking and gambling with this chica from Venezuela, she seemed fun, we were having fun in the casino. Never talked about money or anything, we go upstairs, she was pretty wild. Biting me and spanking me, the whole nine yards. After it's all said and done with we are laying in bed for a while she says you know you have to pay me right? I said of course, I go to give her 80, she is fucking pissed, I offer 100, she is calling me cheap and shit saying the price is 200. Now I am not one to heckle over some money with putas, it's just not any fun for me. I tell her 200 is too expensive, she says no 500 is too expensive. In the end she left me her number and took the 100 bucks. Plenty of girls around, I am fine with paying 100 for short time but 200 is jut out of line. We'll see what I get into tonight I suppose. No way I am forking out 200 for one of these girls when I can get the same or better back home for 80.

Went to Gold Fingers at around 8 PM. I was somewhat hesitant after my last two visits there, super hot chicas but not very fun. Anyways I stroll in, they do their parade, what I like about Gold Fingers is the girls continue to stand there after the introduction versus walking away, so you can make a bit more eye contact plus can make a better decision. Anyways, great line up, very minimal silicone and I think every butt in there was natural, surprisingly. Haha. I picked #8 I believe, she said she was 22, from Medellin, and all natural. She was wearing some hot little lingerie and never stopped smiling while I was trying to decide who to take upstairs. They stopped giving you a free beer maybe they had some issues with a liquor license? Also they didn't raise their price like Golden Time, maybe they just fucked with me over there but I heard two other guys get quoted 115 as well. Anyways, paid the 94 bucks and went upstairs, got a great massage, tons of ball play and then this girl rode me like a champ. For a moment I thought I was in Cuba, which says a lot for anyone who knows how well those girls ride the dick. She was tight, proper and everything I needed to rebound from all the 200 dollar hustlers at the Veneto. I even gave this chick a tip which is something I almost never do but the smile on my face couldn't be bigger. I stopped back into the supermercado for a couple cans of Cuba Libre and headed back to the Veneto. After freshening up and having my Cubas I went downstairs to do some more gambling. Veneto was packed, it was about 11PM, lots of guys and chicas. Played Ultimate Texas Holdem for a while and won 85 bucks, which I decided should go to one last chica, who happened to be playing with us at the table and later on hanging on me for a while so I figured why the hell not. She asked for 150, I said no, she said OK 130. We get up to the room, she is asking for the money right away, I decline and tell her ahi esta la puerta and point to the door. She tells me she doesn't want any issues, asks me to put the money on the table, I told her she just seen me cash out of the table, you know I have the money in my wallet, she finally calms down and gave me the closest I have gotten to a GFE in Panama. Later on she was telling me she was Catholic and tried to make me do a prayer, I told her I wasn't religious and refused, she got all mad and stormed out talking smack down the hotel hallway at like 2:30am, I was totally drunk, in the hallway in my underwear laughing at her all the way to the elevator. Not that there is anything wrong with being religious, to each their own, but how she reacted was totally amusing at the time. All in all I ended up changing my flight to go back home a day early and don't see myself going to Panama City again any time soon, at least to monger. Too much silicone, too many cold as ice chicas asking for way too much money and not much for massage parlors. I also stopped in Boca Toreno in the early afternoon but left after a few minutes, it was actually very quiet inside. Same with the Oriental place on Via Argentina, two chicks both looking incredibly bored and unresponsive to my hello. If a chica can't even return a hello how does she or the management expect someone to pick her?

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1389814]Went to PC this weekend with my girlfriend but we hung out at habanos and Veneto a lot. I did not partake in any of the action but I did a lot of looking and talking.

Panama is night and day better then when I was there about 8 months ago. Tons of girls and quite a few that were very very hot! A lot of plastic of course on the colombianas.

Asche was also very lively. We drank untill about 3am every night except Sunday and Monday. Maybe I don't remember the exact time but everyone I spoke to told me they serve untill 4am on Friday and Sat. I thought it stopped at 3am but, I think its 4am, On Sunday and Monday the bars did stop at 2am.

Stayed at the New Hard Rock Hotel, and what a great place. Just gorgeous. Only issue is the price. $4. 00 for a can of diet coke is a lot. $16 for a shot of tequila et.

I Talked to some old friends (colombianas) from years past and they all were at about $150-$200. However I am sure time and price was negotiable. Seemed as though there was more supply and demand.

The girls were still Playing on there Blackberrys all night and had that "attitude" they are famous for but, I was very impressed. I remember the good old days of PC (5 years ago) and Maybe PC is making a comeback.

I think I will be making a trip there without my GF soon.[/QUOTE]Mfins are you serious. I remember last time we spoke you and I agreed not to go back and the quality has dropped hahaha. Pty is crazy, it definately has its days. When are you thinking about going back. Watch when we decide to go it will be back to the way it used to be. Thanks for the report.

Fellows don't pay $150 or more for the ladies at Venetto or Habamos. Every time I visited Panama the chicas start at $150 or higher but will always come down if you simply tell them $120 or less. Plenty of high quality ladies who will take a lower offer.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1391459]Fellows don't pay $150 or more for the ladies at Venetto or Habamos. Every time I visited Panama the chicas start at $150 or higher but will always come down if you simply tell them $120 or less. Plenty of high quality ladies who will take a lower offer.[/QUOTE]Yea I was pretty surprised, even the not the best looking chicas asking for $200. Last May I had no problem getting them for $80-$100, this trip they were laughing at that.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1391434]Mfins are you serious. I remember last time we spoke you and I agreed not to go back and the quality has dropped hahaha. Pty is crazy, it definately has its days. When are you thinking about going back. Watch when we decide to go it will be back to the way it used to be. Thanks for the report.[/QUOTE]Snipps. I was thinking about you when I was writing the last post. The weekend I was there, there was a ton of talent and plenty of girls. You are right thou, If we decide to go it will probably be the opposite. I also, can not speak to how the girls were during a session. I would suspect its all business, clock watching and robot like. However I don't know. I just get the feeling the days of the full "GFE" is over for Panama. I can say however, IF my friends wanted to try it out for a weekend I would go back. Maybe during March madness or something as the sports books in Panama are very cool.

However, my advice to the board is don't go trying to spend $80 per session at Habanos or Veneto. I suppose its possible with the lower tier but, my friend was there with us and he spent half the night trying to save $50. 00-$70. 00. Asking different girls over and over, et. I finally said " man just bite the bullet" Its just not worth the BS over $50. 00. Getting turned down 25+ times. Also If you go back the next night you walk in to habanos or veneto and all the girls have you pegged as a penny pincher. Certainly don't over pay and ruin the market but, I just can not see spending hours and hours haggling with different girls only to have the roll there eyes at you. If you get a good feeling from one of them and the vibe is right make the deal and enjoy the vacation.

On a side note, I was talking to one of my Colombiana friends down there who I have known for years. She is definately not one of the top earners and definately lacks in the looks dept but she said she is making about $3000 a month. Not bad.

Also, Went to Miami Club when I was there late on a Saturday night and the place was dead and awful.

Haven't been to Panama but I read past posts and thought I had a good idea of the ballbark price. But after some more recent posts, it seems the prices have gone up.

So what's the expected $. I'll narrow it down to girl at Venetos or Habanos. And some of the prices, someone quoted $150 for example, that's just for short time? Basically once your done the girl leaves or is that $150 for a set time like an hour?

[QUOTE=Dave_Far; 1392039]Haven't been to Panama but I read past posts and thought I had a good idea of the ballbark price. But after some more recent posts, it seems the prices have gone up.

So what's the expected $. I'll narrow it down to girl at Venetos or Habanos. And some of the prices, someone quoted $150 for example, that's just for short time? Basically once your done the girl leaves or is that $150 for a set time like an hour?[/QUOTE]In Veneto or Habanos the girls are independents, so the price is fully negotiable. The girls will often ask for $150 or $200 or even more, if you counter them you can often get it down to $100. There are a lot of variables in this including how you counter them, what time of night it is, how busy it is etc.

The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys. To answer your other question- yes, that price is typically for 1 hour- since they are independents though, they are on their own clock. How long they stay is also negotiable and can also be affected by your ability to charm them and have they stay longer- if you want them too.

"The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys"

Please don't take offense Tbuss as I agree with the rest of your post but, which one of us is going to take the first bullet for the team and go to Panama and stick to our guns of not paying the $150. 00. Anyone, anyone. Not I. Sorry fellow Mongers but, I can not ruin my trip just to play hard ball for the rest of you.

That aside, The problem is the few of us on ISG won't make a difference. The money down there is coming from the Business man who flys in stays at the MArriott and goes across the street to Habanos. His company is expensing the trip and he doesn't care if he pays $200.$300 for a hot colombian because its something different then his boring wife back home and its also $500 cheaper than the typical escort he is used to in Vegas. My chica friends down there tell me Monday is usually the best night because of all the new people in town for there business meetings, conventions et. Unfortunately as good as it sounds to try and keep the price down, us few on this board just won't make a difference. The only thing keeping the price where it is (at $150) is the sheer number of colombianas. If somehow the supply was cut in half I think the price would double.

Also, I saw two guys, down there at Venetos and Habanas on Friday and Saturday night. They had there mind made up they were going to pay no more than $85. 00 because that was the price at the massage parlor. They sat there nursing there beer all night Gawking at the girls, and getting rejected over and over again untill finally no othere girls would talk to them. It was sad. They looked pathetic. I see so many of these types at Habanos just sitting there oogling the chicas but either never making a move or being to cheap to do so and / or land one. To me thats just sad. Go have fun spend a few extra bucks and enjoy.

[QUOTE=Tbuss; 1392177]In Veneto or Habanos the girls are independents, so the price is fully negotiable. The girls will often ask for $150 or $200 or even more, if you counter them you can often get it down to $100. There are a lot of variables in this including how you counter them, what time of night it is, how busy it is etc.

The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys. To answer your other question- yes, that price is typically for 1 hour- since they are independents though, they are on their own clock. How long they stay is also negotiable and can also be affected by your ability to charm them and have they stay longer- if you want them too.[/QUOTE]Nice to hear the pricing created a nice healthly discussion on fair prices. Each fellow will pay what he wants in the long run. I just don't pay more than $120 and have never had a problem in the last 3 years I've been going to Panama. Will be there this weekend and will get the ground truth, but I seriously doubt I will have any problem.

Stay horny my friends

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1392383]"The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys"

Please don't take offense Tbuss as I agree with the rest of your post but, which one of us is going to take the first bullet for the team and go to Panama and stick to our guns of not paying the $150. 00. Anyone, anyone. Not I. Sorry fellow Mongers but, I can not ruin my trip just to play hard ball for the rest of you.

That aside, The problem is the few of us on ISG won't make a difference. The money down there is coming from the Business man who flys in stays at the MArriott and goes across the street to Habanos. His company is expensing the trip and he doesn't care if he pays $200. $300 for a hot colombian because its something different then his boring wife back home and its also $500 cheaper than the typical escort he is used to in Vegas. My chica friends down there tell me Monday is usually the best night because of all the new people in town for there business meetings, conventions et. Unfortunately as good as it sounds to try and keep the price down, us few on this board just won't make a difference. The only thing keeping the price where it is (at $150) is the sheer number of colombianas. If somehow the supply was cut in half I think the price would double.

Also, I saw two guys, down there at Venetos and Habanas on Friday and Saturday night. They had there mind made up they were going to pay no more than $85. 00 because that was the price at the massage parlor. They sat there nursing there beer all night Gawking at the girls, and getting rejected over and over again untill finally no othere girls would talk to them. It was sad. They looked pathetic. I see so many of these types at Habanos just sitting there oogling the chicas but either never making a move or being to cheap to do so and / or land one. To me thats just sad. Go have fun spend a few extra bucks and enjoy.[/QUOTE]Mfins I totally agree, I've been there maybe 6-7 times. The last time I went, the women were all business. I have charm, and can talk to these women in spanish, and have a great time with them. I like to have a drink, eat with them, etc. But at the end of the day all they want is money. The chicas ALWAYS start at $150, I usually always bring them down to $100 which I am fine to pay. BUT if a chica I REALLY like is asking for $150 I will hop on it in a heart beat. You need to remember, these girls are gorgggeousseeeeeeeee. (colombiana off course) we don't have them in the states. All we have are asians, russions, few hispanics but nothing like colombianas. And in the states these girls ask for at least $500 for an hour. Top escort services. When I go down to Panama its a deal. Its hard to keep prices down. One time I met a colombiana at Veneto, and I was hungry. She was all business. I told her, before we go to my room, lets go grab a bite to eat. She said yes, but her friend was like no, don't waste your time, you should be making money. She ignored her friend and came with me to eat anyway. Thats alone should give you guys a good indication on how the women are like down in Panama.

Mfins love your Robotic comment haha

[QUOTE=Joey Smith; 1392487]Nice to hear the pricing created a nice healthly discussion on fair prices. Each fellow will pay what he wants in the long run. I just don't pay more than $120 and have never had a problem in the last 3 years I've been going to Panama. Will be there this weekend and will get the ground truth, but I seriously doubt I will have any problem.

Stay horny my friends[/QUOTE]Yes Joey, have fun, I am jealous. Please report back, and have a great time in Panama.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1392383]"The more guys that refuse to pay the $150 or $200 the better it is for all the other guys"

Please don't take offense Tbuss as I agree with the rest of your post but, which one of us is going to take the first bullet for the team and go to Panama and stick to our guns of not paying the $150. 00. Anyone, anyone. Not I. Sorry fellow Mongers but, I can not ruin my trip just to play hard ball for the rest of you.[/QUOTE]No offense Mfins, I wasn't telling anyone what to do, more just stating a fact. The girls have organized and are trying to instill their own price points, if a large enough number of guys give into $150 without argument, they will go to $200, as some of them are already starting to do. Knowing the local economics makes this a little hard for me to swallow personally (in Colombia, the same girl will cost around $60-$70, and it takes a doctor almost 3 days to earn that) but to each his own.

I've been hitting these countries for about 25 years now and have watched the girls become steadily more "businesslike" as the number of guys coming down willing to pay whatever was asked (and sometimes tip on top of that) has increased. This topic has been talked to death on numerous boards and I've given up trying to stem the tide- instead I go to locals places in Panama with pretty girls that not too many gringos find their way to and try to hit Latin American cities which also have a lack of gringo presence.

A Colombian beauty on "badoo"

Quoted me U$600- for full service.

She wrote me this was a good deal.

Others would charge 1'000 euros for just saying "hello"

"badoo" has become a pros site with mostly fake entries.


[QUOTE=Tbuss; 1393503]No offense Mfins, I wasn't telling anyone what to do, more just stating a fact. The girls have organized and are trying to instill their own price points, if a large enough number of guys give into $150 without argument, they will go to $200, as some of them are already starting to do. Knowing the local economics makes this a little hard for me to swallow personally (in Colombia, the same girl will cost around $60-$70, and it takes a doctor almost 3 days to earn that) but to each his own.

I've been hitting these countries for about 25 years now and have watched the girls become steadily more "businesslike" as the number of guys coming down willing to pay whatever was asked (and sometimes tip on top of that) has increased. This topic has been talked to death on numerous boards and I've given up trying to stem the tide- instead I go to locals places in Panama with pretty girls that not too many gringos find their way to and try to hit Latin American cities which also have a lack of gringo presence.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Snipps;1393159]Yes Joey, have fun, I am jealous. Please report back, and have a great time in Panama.[/QUOTE]Hit all the spots last nite. Veneto, Habamos why ASCHE. Best selection was at Habamos. Mostly a Colombian crowd with girls asking for $125. $200. Enjoyed the scene at Habamos why Veneto. Hit ASCHE for the first time at around 2am. Too many people, too dark and couldn't tell the working girls from the regular girls. Maybe I hit it too late. But hard to size up any chica let alone walk around the club.

Yes, Asche is hard to tell, your local cab driver can help you determine that. I once went to ASCHE with my cabby and he spotted all of them out for me. How was the Veneto? Was is packed? A lot of chicas? Thanks

Pretty much all the girls at Ashe are some kind of pro- assume they all are and you'll seldom be wrong.

[QUOTE=Snipps;1394217]Yes, Asche is hard to tell, your local cab driver can help you determine that. I once went to ASCHE with my cabby and he spotted all of them out for me. How was the Veneto? Was is packed? A lot of chicas? Thanks[/QUOTE]FYI to all: as of about 3 wks ago (was there President's Day wkend) Veneto charges a $20 entry fee to all Colombian girls, so you can be sure you'll hear how many nights of fees with "no sales" that she's paid as she tries to upsell you. This has also pushed some of the Veneto regulars over to Habanos, AND pushed up their takehome price of course. On the other hand, previous visitors will remember the old Doll House in same lower arcade as Oasis (next to Veneto) , its being renovated and should soon be open under new ownership. Will check as to status and takeout fees when I return on 18 April. Manolo's across the street also still worth a walkthrough in primetime.

Happy punting

[QUOTE=MiamiKevin; 1396217]so you can be sure you'll hear how many nights of fees with "no sales" that she's paid as she tries to upsell you.

Happy punting[/QUOTE]Or she can go home again empty handed after paying the $20 and should try to make something?

[QUOTE=MiamiKevin; 1396217]FYI to all: as of about 3 wks ago (was there President's Day wkend) Veneto charges a $20 entry fee to all Colombian girls, so you can be sure you'll hear how many nights of fees with "no sales" that she's paid as she tries to upsell you. This has also pushed some of the Veneto regulars over to Habanos, AND pushed up their takehome price of course. On the other hand, previous visitors will remember the old Doll House in same lower arcade as Oasis (next to Veneto) , its being renovated and should soon be open under new ownership. Will check as to status and takeout fees when I return on 18 April. Manolo's across the street also still worth a walkthrough in primetime.

Happy punting[/QUOTE]Garbage- Just as I think Panama is making a nice come back they pull this crap. Doesn't Veneto realize that 90% of the guys at the casino bar are only there and spending money because the girls are also there.

When I was there they didn't even have there show performing on the stage or the dancers in the carnival outfits.

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1397051]Garbage- Just as I think Panama is making a nice come back they pull this crap. Doesn't Veneto realize that 90% of the guys at the casino bar are only there and spending money because the girls are also there.

When I was there they didn't even have there show performing on the stage or the dancers in the carnival outfits.[/QUOTE]Not too big of a deal, plenty of girls still go in. Also, a smart operator can stand outside and pick out what he wants before they go in and have to pay the cover charge.

Is the Le Meridien Hotel in Panama City chica friendly? I will be with colleagues and we will be partying there. I don't want the girls to be turned away.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1397097]Not too big of a deal, plenty of girls still go in. Also, a smart operator can stand outside and pick out what he wants before they go in and have to pay the cover charge.[/QUOTE]I believe I did mention there are outside options (eg Manolo's) , my point was, inside or out, you hear the same complaint now about they have to make up (from you) for all the $ they've already spent on wasted entry fees. One reason why, as you pointed out, a $100 good time now has a $150 starting offer, and is pushing $200.

[QUOTE=MiamiKevin;1397460]I believe I did mention there are outside options (eg Manolo's) , my point was, inside or out, you hear the same complaint now about they have to make up (from you) for all the $ they've already spent on wasted entry fees. One reason why, as you pointed out, a $100 good time now has a $150 starting offer, and is pushing $200.[/QUOTE]If that's the case, when they started complaining about how many fees they paid in the past, I would tell them to go with my now before going in for $100 and then their next 5 nights entry would be paid for. There are currently a lot more girls than there are clients, it's a buyers market for anyone with even a little bit of game.

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1397546]If that's the case, when they started complaining about how many fees they paid in the past, I would tell them to go with my now before going in for $100 and then their next 5 nights entry would be paid for. There are currently a lot more girls than there are clients, it's a buyers market for anyone with even a little bit of game.[/QUOTE]Why has the price gone up to $150 or $200? Only last year you could offer $80 and agree a tip of $20 for good service, including BBBJ DFK etc, although not all would partake the offer. The majority of these Colombian girls would make MUCH LESS in Colombia and $100 is more than a weeks wage. When negotitaing one should point out they will make a loss if no one agrees to pay their ridicolus prices and will return home to their families with diddly squat. One can generally fuck the same girls in Bogota for around 30, 000-80, 000 COP.

For $150 I would expect CIM to be a starting point for negotitions and with perhaps anal included also.

Where did these Las Vegas prices come from? We must resist!

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1398591]Why has the price gone up to $150 or $200? Only last year you could offer $80 and agree a tip of $20 for good service, including BBBJ DFK etc, although not all would partake the offer. The majority of these Colombian girls would make MUCH LESS in Colombia and $100 is more than a weeks wage. When negotitaing one should point out they will make a loss if no one agrees to pay their ridicolus prices and will return home to their families with diddly squat. One can generally fuck the same girls in Bogota for around 30, 000-80, 000 COP.

For $150 I would expect CIM to be a starting point for negotitions and with perhaps anal included also.

Where did these Las Vegas prices come from? We must resist![/QUOTE]Price also depends on the quality of girl you're looking for, AND what you want in her attitude once you agree to hookup (all business vs. A little mutual generosity) , BTW that includes getting her phone / e-mail for future trips. Of the four girls (all dropdeads) that I got down to talking $ with at Habanos, their starting offer usually was $200 / hr, sometimes $250 for 2 hrs. Each time, we agreed on less $ for a little less time, but never any hesitation about BBBJ, anal etc, and I know how to contact any or all of them next trip, for a beach date or a night out, and that guaranteed happy ending. You choose what you want, but I consider a young gorgeous girl who's happy to be on my arm & in my bed as an investment (within reason) well worth making anytime. What say you?

[QUOTE=MiamiKevin; 1396217]FYI to all: as of about 3 wks ago (was there President's Day wkend) Veneto charges a $20 entry fee to all Colombian girls, so you can be sure you'll hear how many nights of fees with "no sales" that she's paid as she tries to upsell you. This has also pushed some of the Veneto regulars over to Habanos, AND pushed up their takehome price of course. On the other hand, previous visitors will remember the old Doll House in same lower arcade as Oasis (next to Veneto) , its being renovated and should soon be open under new ownership. Will check as to status and takeout fees when I return on 18 April. Manolo's across the street also still worth a walkthrough in primetime.

Happy punting[/QUOTE]I am throwing the BS flag on this $20 entry fee for the ladies. I was just at the Veneto last weekend and didn't see or hear this new requirement for the girls. You were lied too.

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1398591]Why has the price gone up to $150 or $200? Only last year you could offer $80 and agree a tip of $20 for good service, including BBBJ DFK etc, although not all would partake the offer. The majority of these Colombian girls would make MUCH LESS in Colombia and $100 is more than a weeks wage. When negotitaing one should point out they will make a loss if no one agrees to pay their ridicolus prices and will return home to their families with diddly squat. One can generally fuck the same girls in Bogota for around 30, 000-80, 000 COP.

For $150 I would expect CIM to be a starting point for negotitions and with perhaps anal included also.

Where did these Las Vegas prices come from? We must resist![/QUOTE]The girls have formed a kind of consortium and try to maintain the price point as best they can. They will pressure new girls and girls charging less to maintain the higher prices. That's one side of the problem, the other side is that there are a lot of guys who gleefully pay whatever is asked and many others still who proudly argue that it's their right to pay whatever they want and that it doesn't impact anyone else. They are correct on the first part but very wrong on the 2nd part. Until a much larger group of guys starts to refuse to pay the outrageous rates the girls are asking, they will confidently ask for it and many will refuse to go for less.

For years the real price-point for a very pretty girl was $100- they are now trying to re-establish that at $150. Many are asking for $200 and then "settling" for $150 with a huff, like they are doing a favor. Always a shame to see the gringo's turn these girls into just the type of girls they are leaving the states to avoid but it's pretty inevitable.

Just have to go to where the large numbers of overpaying, tipping guys don't go yet.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1398750]I am throwing the BS flag on this $20 entry fee for the ladies. I was just at the Veneto last weekend and didn't see or hear this new requirement for the girls. You were lied too.[/QUOTE]First thought in my mind, Joey, so I checked with not one but two of the guys who screen the girls at the escalator, it's $20 and it's only charged to Colombian girls, not to any guys or any Panamanian women.

Hi All,

I'm visiting Panama city next week but I'm staying at the decameron up the coast. I'm renting a car and planning on making a few mongering visits to town.

Can anyone give a direction or intersection for where exactly los Arcos or any other push button is located? I'm looking for one that's on the west side of town (closer to my way back to decameron not on the other side like the mistica area where most are) I remember someone here mentioning los arcos as being close to venetto. I'm hoping to avoid having to ask anyone in Panama how to get there I've driven around latin countries before nobody knows nothing.

Thanks,

Remember, we're all in this together.

Tom Power

[QUOTE=Tom Power; 1399245]Hi All,

I'm visiting Panama city next week but I'm staying at the decameron up the coast. I'm renting a car and planning on making a few mongering visits to town.

Can anyone give a direction or intersection for where exactly los Arcos or any other push button is located? I'm looking for one that's on the west side of town (closer to my way back to decameron not on the other side like the mistica area where most are) I remember someone here mentioning los arcos as being close to venetto. I'm hoping to avoid having to ask anyone in Panama how to get there I've driven around latin countries before nobody knows nothing.

Thanks,

Remember, we're all in this together.

Tom Power[/QUOTE]The link below should bring up a pretty good map showing it's location.

[url]http://www.viajeros.com/alojamiento/hoteles/residencial-los-arcos-panama:fotos_y_mapa[/url]

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1397546]If that's the case, when they started complaining about how many fees they paid in the past, I would tell them to go with my now before going in for $100 and then their next 5 nights entry would be paid for. There are currently a lot more girls than there are clients, it's a buyers market for anyone with even a little bit of game.[/QUOTE]Agreed, More supply than demand at the moment however the top 10% was leaving with clients multiple times in a night so they are not hurting. Its the other 90% that is having to fight for clients.

[QUOTE=Tbuss; 1398952]The girls have formed a kind of consortium and try to maintain the price point as best they can. They will pressure new girls and girls charging less to maintain the higher prices. That's one side of the problem, the other side is that there are a lot of guys who gleefully pay whatever is asked and many others still who proudly argue that it's their right to pay whatever they want and that it doesn't impact anyone else. They are correct on the first part but very wrong on the 2nd part. Until a much larger group of guys starts to refuse to pay the outrageous rates the girls are asking, they will confidently ask for it and many will refuse to go for less.

For years the real price-point for a very pretty girl was $100- they are now trying to re-establish that at $150. Many are asking for $200 and then "settling" for $150 with a huff, like they are doing a favor. Always a shame to see the gringo's turn these girls into just the type of girls they are leaving the states to avoid but it's pretty inevitable.

Just have to go to where the large numbers of overpaying, tipping guys don't go yet.[/QUOTE]I remember about 3 years ago or so, in November one of my regulars told me "after the 1st of the year the price is going up from $150 to $200. 00 We had a meeting and we all agreed". I was laughing so hard. I thought it was hilarious. Like they had formed a puta union or something. Of course that price point didn't last. I am fairly confident the 8+'s are going for $150. 00 Most start at $200 but $150 is the price point. If someone is paying $100 or $80 they are getting something less than a 5.

[QUOTE=MiamiKevin;1399027]First thought in my mind, Joey, so I checked with not one but two of the guys who screen the girls at the escalator, it's $20 and it's only charged to Colombian girls, not to any guys or any Panamanian women.[/QUOTE]Visiting again this weekend so I'll investigate also. Hard to believe they would just charge the Colombians an extra $20. Been a semi-regular at Veneto over the years and have never seen this. The Veneto still draws a big crowd on the weekends. Can't believe their profit has dropped.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1399962]I remember about 3 years ago or so, in November one of my regulars told me "after the 1st of the year the price is going up from $150 to $200. 00 We had a meeting and we all agreed". I was laughing so hard. I thought it was hilarious. Like they had formed a puta union or something. Of course that price point didn't last. I am fairly confident the 8+'s are going for $150. 00 Most start at $200 but $150 is the price point. If someone is paying $100 or $80 they are getting something less than a 5.[/QUOTE]That's pretty much exactly what they did- formed a union, and it's been pretty effective. There is no reason on earth any girl in Panama should be getting more than $100. Only because enough guys pay the outrageous figures they ask for is the price what it is. In Colombia you can get the hottest girl around for $60-$70, go to cities the "over-payers" haven't found yet and it's less than $40 for a smoking hot girl. There are even some low-end local places in Panama where you can get the occasion hot girl for $60 an hour. Almost all of 8's and higher will go for $100 if you approach them the right way.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1399962]I remember about 3 years ago or so, in November one of my regulars told me "after the 1st of the year the price is going up from $150 to $200. 00 We had a meeting and we all agreed". I was laughing so hard. I thought it was hilarious. Like they had formed a puta union or something.[/QUOTE]Sounds like OPEC! lol...

I wouldn't worry. I am sure there are plenty of girls, who are trying to cheat the cartel by secretly lowering their price.

-Helpmann :)

Anyone know if Torre Alba hotel across the street from Veneto is still chica friendly.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1400907]Anyone know if Torre Alba hotel across the street from Veneto is still chica friendly.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is.

I have been to the DR (sosua) and Medellin was trying to decide if Panama would be my next move. Can someone tell me how they compare. How the women treat you in Panama. Are they as open to older men. Also I love a good BBBJ. Are they common there or is CBJ more the norm is there a such thing as GFE or are they hard core like casa's in Medellin for the most part.

Does anyone know where to find some quality talent other than the usual suspects in the city? I find the talent in these places hit or miss and would prefer to find someone and take her to a private place.

Hi there,

I will be in Panama City next week and looking for some advice. I will be with clients and need to "entertain them". They want girls for a full day and evening. This includes partying at our hotel suite, nice dinner, etc.

These girls need to be top end (looks and service) and I am willing to pay for it.

Do you recommend I use an escort service or is there some other ways to procure these women? I need some help!

I appreciate the advice and promise to report back after the trip.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1400907]Anyone know if Torre Alba hotel across the street from Veneto is still chica friendly.[/QUOTE]Never a problem with management or front desk at Torre, after they xerox her passport. $15 TLN charge however. Joey, any update on the $20 Colombiana surcharge at Veneto, will be there in 3 wks.

[QUOTE=Werspe; 1402511]Hi there,

I will be in Panama City next week and looking for some advice. I will be with clients and need to "entertain them". They want girls for a full day and evening. This includes partying at our hotel suite, nice dinner, etc.

These girls need to be top end (looks and service) and I am willing to pay for it.

Do you recommend I use an escort service or is there some other ways to procure these women? I need some help!

I appreciate the advice and promise to report back after the trip.[/QUOTE]IMHO best Panama escort services (quality and choice) are El Complaciente and Girl Panama. But if $'s no object, why not take your guests to Le Palace early in the evening, selection's always first rate, they can see & get to know the girls, then take their choice, you pay the takeout for each, and you're on your way. BTW, are you sure your hotel's chica-friendly? Even if mgmt said yes on previous trips, rules can change, so best to check ahead. Fellow posters here have best advice if you share the name.

Happy hunting

[QUOTE=MiamiKevin; 1402962]IMHO best Panama escort services (quality and choice) are El Complaciente and Girl Panama. But if $'s no object, why not take your guests to Le Palace early in the evening, selection's always first rate, they can see & get to know the girls, then take their choice, you pay the takeout for each, and you're on your way. BTW, are you sure your hotel's chica-friendly? Even if mgmt said yes on previous trips, rules can change, so best to check ahead. Fellow posters here have best advice if you share the name.

Happy hunting[/QUOTE]DITTO to Miamikevin- If money Truly is no object go to Le palace and let loose. You can probably secure an all day and night for $500. 00 or maybe $800-$1000 for 24 hours if you go through Management. I am not saying this price is the norm but, if you don't want to haggle, make arrangements to meet after close et and you got money to burn then Le Palace is your place for top of the line talent.

However, Panama is very user friendly. I am sure taking your clients to Veneto and Habanas will be fine. Get bottle service at Veneto and call some girls over to the table, Your clients will enjoy the view and have fun. Le Palace Veneto, Habanos and Ache are all very close. You won't have any trouble finding them.

Thanks! I am staying at the Le Meridien hotel. Is this chica-friendly?

[QUOTE=Mfins; 1403350]DITTO to Miamikevin- If money Truly is no object go to Le palace and let loose. You can probably secure an all day and night for $500. 00 or maybe $800-$1000 for 24 hours if you go through Management. I am not saying this price is the norm but, if you don't want to haggle, make arrangements to meet after close et and you got money to burn then Le Palace is your place for top of the line talent.

However, Panama is very user friendly. I am sure taking your clients to Veneto and Habanas will be fine. Get bottle service at Veneto and call some girls over to the table, Your clients will enjoy the view and have fun. Le Palace Veneto, Habanos and Ache are all very close. You won't have any trouble finding them.[/QUOTE]

I have been to Panama City in 2007 and 2008, stayed at the Radisson and Veneto. Planning on being there in a few weeks and am trying to decide where to stay the Veneto or Manrey. Manrey looks nice but not sure their guest policies. Has anyone stayed there?

Thanks for your help, my trip is 3 nights in CTG and 2 in PTY.

I'm planning to visit Panama City with my girlfriend, with the intent to invite another female to join use. (It is my birthday!). Where can we visit to located a friendly companion?

Is the Waldorf Astoria guest friendly?

I'm planning to visit Panama City with my girlfriend with the intend to invite a woman to join us. What is the best locations to find our companions?

Is the Waldorf Astoria guest friendly?

I'm planning on staying at the Waldorf Astoria, and bringing a girlfriend.

Is this hotel guest friendly?

I have stayed at both the Radisson and the Veneto in the past visits to PTY. Has anyone had good / bad experience with the Manrey. I am going to be there in a few weeks and am trying to decide between the Manrey and the Veneto. Same cost for a room.

Thanks for your help.

Below is a picture form my last trip.

Fellas have any of you stayed at the Panama Marriott and is it chica friendly? I have points to burn so I was looking to book the hotel for 2, but I do not plan on having over night guests only ST. If any you who have stayed there let me know if I'm wasting my time booking this hotel, thanks.

My experience is that Marriott is hit or miss depending on security on duty. I would recommend you stay at a different hotel that is chica friendly.

[QUOTE=Pana Nyc;1404231]Fellas have any of you stayed at the Panama Marriott and is it chica friendly? I have points to burn so I was looking to book the hotel for 2, but I do not plan on having over night guests only ST. If any you who have stayed there let me know if I'm wasting my time booking this hotel, thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Average Joe2;1404363]My experience is that Marriott is hit or miss depending on security on duty. I would recommend you stay at a different hotel that is chica friendly.[/QUOTE]Based on my experience, and what's been shared in the past by other punters:

Veneto (one of the Wyndham hotels) and Torres de Alba (apt-hotel, where I always stay) : never a problem with having guests.

Las Vegas (diagonal corner from Veneto) : no problem here either.

Marriott (across the street from Habanos) , el Panama (up the hill behind Veneto) and Riu Continental: not allowed.

Radisson, Manrey, Waldorf, Meridien: not familiar with their policies.

My firsthand knowledge is limited, since I've kept to the first two, they're both good value for $, right on top of the Veneto casino action, and I don't have to ask (or guess) beforehand. All you veteran posters, please correct or add, as I'd like to know of a few extra options myself (Hard Rock Hotel for example.)

[QUOTE=Pana Nyc;1404231]Fellas have any of you stayed at the Panama Marriott and is it chica friendly? I have points to burn so I was looking to book the hotel for 2, but I do not plan on having over night guests only ST. If any you who have stayed there let me know if I'm wasting my time booking this hotel, thanks.[/QUOTE]Can personally verify the Marriott across from Habanos is NOT GF. Lots of security and they are not shy about stopping you with your 'Lady of Choice' right at the front door. Did have a buddy sneak one into the hotel through the adjoining casino entrance, though. But I'm sure they have cameras and what-not watching all possible points of access.

Suggest you save your points, take up the recommendations from some of the other punters here and seek accommodations elsewhere. It's just not worth the hassle.

Have fun in PTY.

[QUOTE=MiamiKevin;1402957]Never a problem with management or front desk at Torre, after they xerox her passport. $15 TLN charge however. Joey, any update on the $20 Colombiana surcharge at Veneto, will be there in 3 wks.[/QUOTE]Torre de Alba is definitely chica friendly. The $20 daily fee (Colombians) for the chicas to work at the Veneto is true.

Lots of excellent choices at Veneto & Habamos. Both places were over flowing with mujers. Expect to negotiate all will start at $200. Bit easily come down to $150. Paid $120 for 3 ladies.

What was the rates did the chicas charge?

[QUOTE=AntaresX; 1404744]I was recently in Panama on a matter of business, I stayed at the Hotel Miramar good care and service, was coupled with a colleague and look online and find an escort agency with a variety of girls, we agreed that the service was not for all the weekend, where we danced, dined and spent the night with the girls, really was not very expensive.

I have turned the page on something if it helps.

[url]http://angelicaescortvip.com/eng/escorts.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Thanks very much for the heads up I still might stay there I will just do girls in ST motels or onsite casas.

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1404567]Can personally verify the Marriott across from Habanos is NOT GF. Lots of security and they are not shy about stopping you with your 'Lady of Choice' right at the front door. Did have a buddy sneak one into the hotel through the adjoining casino entrance, though. But I'm sure they have cameras and what-not watching all possible points of access.

Suggest you save your points, take up the recommendations from some of the other punters here and seek accommodations elsewhere. It's just not worth the hassle.

Have fun in PTY.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1404674]Lots of excellent choices at Veneto & Habamos. Both places were over flowing with mujers. Expect to negotiate all will start at $200. Bit easily come down to $150. Paid $120 for 3 ladies.[/QUOTE]Wow, I'm very sorry to hear this, it seems the chicas are having success moving the price-point off of $100.

Yes it's true, the Colombianas are charged $20 to enter Veneto, $30 on Friday and Saturday. And even $30 on good Friday, when the casino didn't open until 12:01am. The chairs have been removed from the main bar in the casino, which is where I used to spend the day. Not too many girls this weekend, most likely because it's easter. But still the hottest spot in the city IMHO.

Took two trips to Bocaterena one on Saturday around 2pm and Easter Sunday around noon. Saturday was packed, wall to wall people. Definitely a hot spot, through small talk, came to the conclusion that the girls hang out here in the day and then move on to the more profitable places (via espana, calle uraguay) at night. As has been mentioned here before, it's the same girls, just cheaper prices. Sunday was less crowded, was actually fun. $1. 50 for beer, $1. 50 for shots, lady drinks $5. 00, with her getting back $2, from what I could tell.

Going rate seemed to be $20, $5 to the house, rest to the girl, with two condoms included. The guy came banging on the door after what seemed like 10 minutes, didn't wear my watch, because it's not that kind of place. So each time I paid another $20. As mentioned before, the rooms are very basic. A bed, then sink and toilet, turned into a shower. But your not there to spend the night. All varieties of girls, from Nicaraguans to Colombians to Dominicans. And everywhere in between.

I experienced Bocaterna during the day, and it seemed reasonably safe. If you don't speak Spanish, It'd be a good idea to take someone who does (taxi driver).

I checked out both Caribbean Center (all Panamanians) and Golden Fingers (all Colombians). Both are a few doors down from each other and across from the Rey supermarket in El Dorado.

CARIBBEAN CENTER:

I went to CC first and a girl greeted me at the door and I was shown a presentation of 5 girls and all were 6 or below, maybe one 7. I got a $3 beer and just chatted with a couple girls. I didn't feel the vibes, but when I was told it's $60 an hr, it's the best price around (I've been spoiled after being in San Salvador last week). Golden Fingers was closed, and I thought about Golden Time, but they charge $115 an hr and the girl selection wasn't too impressive, even though it seemed everyone had ass for days.

I talked up this girl who had the best looks and body IMO. She had a nice ass, almost all Panamanians have big ol asses. Bought her a $5 drink and asked if she offered BBBJ and to my surprise, she said yeah. Asked if she gives a nice massage, she said yeah. I hope both are true.

Got the hour and went up the room that has a sink and shower. She started off with massage, which was decent, but obviously not professional. Then went to kiss her, first she hesitated, but I slowly insisted and she let me have it. I wanted more tongue, but that's ok. She then started the BBBJ, not bad, but not great. On top of me she climbed, but I had to hit that from behind since she has a toned apple bottom ass. Kept it at doggie and just had to slap that ass a bunch of times.

Those butt slaps reverberated off the walls! I finally finished at that position. Cleaned and dressed up. I wouldn't mind going back, but they need a better selection if I was to repeat.

GOLDEN FINGERS:

Showed up here the following day and an older mama greeted me at the door and asked if I came here on a taxi. I said no, and she looked out to make sure. I was greeted with 6 girls, all much better than Caribbean Center, all Colombianas with fine ass and body. All are 7 or below, maybe couple 8s. I asked about price, she said $70 for half and $95 for hr. I told her it's cheaper at CC almost right next door. She didn't budge. I thought about heading out, but I had to partake with this dark skinned girl 25 yr old named Cali, who wears #17. She had one fine ass. I love tits too, but with that ass, I had to take that upstairs. She had decent tits too, natural set of B's.

I went for the half hr thinking I'm going straight down to business, or should I say pleasure. She did ask if I wanted a quick massage, which I obliged. Another weak massage session, but I'm not complaining, lasted a few mins. Then the action started.

She has 2 kids, but she had one tight pussy. Started with CG. That ass was going up and down, down and up. Felt very good. I attempted to kiss her, but she brushed me away. Not a big deal, I'll use my charm. Slowly, she allowed me to kiss her and even have some tongue action. Felt super hot!

Switched to doggie and that ass called for some slapping. This ass was really nice and firm. I closed up from behind her and just pounded away. We were both sweating even though AC was on, but it was some intimate hot sex! Finished real good and she showered up and out the door I went as the phone ran, used up my time wisely!

I plan to hit up Colon, so I'll write that on the forum!

BTW: It's been a couple years since my last visit to Panama, is it me or have the prices all gone UP! Not just for pussy, but everything from food to transportation to leisure activities. Panama is becoming less and less affordable compared to a few years ago. Don't get me wrong, it's still cheaper than the USA and girls are much hotter, but damn. My wallet is getting drained!

I checked out Habanos last night around midnight and it was popping. There were at least 35 or more girls roaming around, sitting down, or standing up. Range was 3's to even couple near 10's. I was there for about an hour, some drifted off and some newbies would drop in as well. I saw a 9/9. 5, one of the hottest chicks there, who also spoke pretty decent English, but I can speak Spanish, so not a problem. Started off fine, but may be it wasn't meant to be.

Chatted up a bit, she's 24 from Medellin with a toned complexion and a very pretty face, basically a victoria's secret angel IMO. I've been to Panama almost a dozen times, so I can negotiate and close a deal. Of course, she starts off at $200, I say $100, which she instantly laughs at. Says 'no, impossible'. Goes to $150 with no problem, but wouldn't budge below that. As beautiful as she was, I was willing to pay that only if some bases were covered. She was fine with BBBJ, DFK, so no problem there. I even asked if it was cool if I took pictures of her clothed and naked, she was fine with that. So we had a deal, even shook on it. But I came with a friend and he went to gamble in the Royal Casino, so I told her to wait for me as I go get him (he didn't have a phone).

I wasn't out for more than 3 minutes, and when I came back, she was gone! I looked around, even asked the chicas, one was funny, said, she's gone, but I'm here, ready and available. I went to use the bathroom and on my way out, I spotted her with another dude. I simply asked her, are you busy? She said, yes. So I said screw it, I left the place. Not that I care much, but it's just principle. I guess some girls are all about the money. I know girls that are about the money, but also are honest at the same time.

I decided to check out Grutal Azul. Paid $2 cover. It's been 2 years since I went back and they sorta did a slight facial lift to the place. It looks cleaner and somewhat classier, but still a middle end brothel / bar at best. Saw about 8 girls and half were occupied, so no luck there. Hung out for a beer and left. Forgot to ask about pricing, but I believe it was $20 for 15 mins.

I decided to go check out Veneto. I parked in the nearby Crowne Plaza hotel and walked into Veneto. Lots of chicas. Saw a couple that were in Habanos earlier. Quality was comparable to Habanos. Saw a 8. 5/9 colombiana, small, slender, nice round ass and full set of tits. Most likely silicone, but I didn't care. Got her a drink and sat at the table and had a nice conversation. Her name is Christina and only been to Panama for 3 weeks. Asked for pricing, told her to give me a fair number (haha).

She offered $150, I countered with $120, which she was fine with. But then I had to cover some bases. Asked about BBBJ, she said, no. Bummer. Asked about DFK, she said, yes. Cool. Then asked about photos, she said, no. I wanted photos! Haha. She said photos, yes, but $150. I'm like damn. Almost had it. She had a bubbly personality and it was almost 3am, so I didn't want to go find another girl and start the whole process over again.

I agreed with the $150. She was smoking hot as I held her hands and took her to my car. Overall, it was an OK session at best.

The GOOD: She allowed DFK and used some good tongue, had her in multiple positions, moans sounded genuine (haha) , hotass body for sure! Let me come on her tits.

The BAD: As we were into it for about 15 mins, she asked me,"Finish?". I'm like, WTF. Hell, no I'm not finished. Not even close. That kinda killed my mood. I wanted to be nice and said, no, not yet. We continued and I could tell she just wanted me to be done quick.

I will not let her have that. As fine as she was in that solid hot body of hers, once my mood is killed, it can take me a very long time to finish. Haha. I can tell she was a bit frustrated, but I didn't care. More time for me to tap that ass of hers.

Finally, I decided to land my load on her nice set of probably fake DD's in which she said, 'mucho leche'. Hell yeah!