[QUOTE=Jeff46]One wise expat with a large company told me. Never believe any report concerning money % and so on in Thailand is all a lie. Never get the true number.[/QUOTE]
This is sound advice. Noting uttered from a Thais' lips can be trusted!
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[QUOTE=Jeff46]One wise expat with a large company told me. Never believe any report concerning money % and so on in Thailand is all a lie. Never get the true number.[/QUOTE]
This is sound advice. Noting uttered from a Thais' lips can be trusted!
My travel preparation is almost complete. I will be on a 10 day break begining 2nd week of August in Thailnd. This will be my 3rd time. The first time, I was in Bangkok for only 3 days and stayed in the Sukhumvit Area. The 2nd time, I was in Pattaya for 4 days and stayed near walking street. This time, I would like to travel a little more to expand my expereince (of course I will be in Pattaya for at least a few days). Unfortunately, I am not sure how I should divide this 10 days for maximum enjoyment. Any suggesstion from anyone?
Just my opinion but I would spend about 1/2 my time in the 10 days in Phuket and the rest back in Bkk. There are a lot of great places to find and enjoy in Bkk. Exploring is the fun part to me.
[QUOTE=Ny Desiman]My travel preparation is almost complete. I will be on a 10 day break begining 2nd week of August in Thailnd. This will be my 3rd time. The first time, I was in Bangkok for only 3 days and stayed in the Sukhumvit Area. The 2nd time, I was in Pattaya for 4 days and stayed near walking street. This time, I would like to travel a little more to expand my expereince (of course I will be in Pattaya for at least a few days). Unfortunately, I am not sure how I should divide this 10 days for maximum enjoyment. Any suggesstion from anyone?[/QUOTE]
5 days in Patong Beach Phuket and 5 in Pattaya
Thanks ThaiLearner, Mackin
I would love to visit phuket, but how do I get to Phuket from Pattaya or should I go to Pattaya from Phuket? One thing I can do is may be book a air asia flight from Bangkok airport after landing to Phuket but still I have to get back to Pattaya. I would hate to spent 2500 baht or so in a taxi ride from phuket to Pattaya.
Personally, if your wish is to see Phuket, I would go to Phuket first using BKK as your base. Not sure if you can get to Phuket from the new ( really not new any longer ) Airport? Others would be able to answer that question. If so, when you come back from Phuket you can just go from the new airport to Pattaya, the distant is shorter! if they are still using the old Airport, when you come back from Phuket, maybe stay a night or two in BKK, before heading to Pattaya.
Hope this gives you something to think about. Gives you some flexibilty to stay longer or stay shorter as you feel out each place. Taxi fees from airport to BKK, might run you from 250-400 depending. Always ask them to turn the meter on and if you use the tollway there is a charge.
Enjoy! LBM
Thanks LBM. I probably will visit phuket for a day or 2 towards the end of the trip.
Now, can anyone tell me where/ how to get a mobile SIM? Do I get it at the airport or buy it in Pattaya (where I plan to stay in the begining). What document is required?
Man,
When you get to Pattaya, dependent on where you stay and which type of company sim you want either way you can find them easily. Royal Garden, Big C, Tesco Lotus, 7/11 stores for D-Tac, your phone will need to be unlock if not already. Also if you know your way around Tuk-com builiding in Pattaya Tai. What documents are you talking about! For phones you don't need a anything.
LBM
[QUOTE=Ny Desiman]Thanks LBM. I probably will visit phuket for a day or 2 towards the end of the trip.
Now, can anyone tell me where/ how to get a mobile SIM? Do I get it at the airport or buy it in Pattaya (where I plan to stay in the begining). What document is required?[/QUOTE]
Desi, walk into a 7-11 and buy a SIM card. The only document you need is a 500 Bt note.
[QUOTE=1Ball]Desi, walk into a 7-11 and buy a SIM card. The only document you need is a 500 Bt note.[/QUOTE]
and expect some change in return... is it that much now 1Ball?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Personally, if your wish is to see Phuket, I would go to Phuket first using BKK as your base. Not sure if you can get to Phuket from the new ( really not new any longer ) Airport? Others would be able to answer that question.[/QUOTE]Yes, we can! Eight times a day! [url]www.airasia.com[/url]
I heard a rumor today that a law had been passed or was under consideration for passage which bans or will ban the provision of hostesses 'to sing with you' in kareokes. Assuming this rumor is accurate, in future one may only attend kareoke for the ostensible purpose - singing with one's friends - and not for the real one.
Has anyone heard about this? Of course a kareoke is a miserable place, but it is often the only way to (even attempt to) get laid in many Thai towns.
[QUOTE=Ny Desiman]Thanks ThaiLearner, Mackin
I would love to visit phuket, but how do I get to Phuket from Pattaya or should I go to Pattaya from Phuket? One thing I can do is may be book a air asia flight from Bangkok airport after landing to Phuket but still I have to get back to Pattaya. I would hate to spent 2500 baht or so in a taxi ride from phuket to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
[url]www.bangkokair.com[/url] is the only company that flies Phuket to Pattaya (utaopa airport) or vice versa. I have to say that the flight from Phuket to Pattaya is very good but I would book a taxi from Pattaya airport to Pattaya as the taxis at the airport are expensive or you can get a mini bus which will only drop you in certain areas of Pattaya.
I have only ever travelled Phuket to Pattaya with them and I take the afternoon flight as the earlier one stops off in Samui.
I also prefer going to Phuket first for the more relaxed atmosphere then to the full on part of the holiday in Pattaya
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Personally, if your wish is to see Phuket, I would go to Phuket first using BKK as your base. Not sure if you can get to Phuket from the new ( really not new any longer ) Airport?
Enjoy! LBM[/QUOTE]
Yes you can
[url]www.airasia.com[/url]
[url]www.thaiair.com[/url]
[url]www.bangkokair.com[/url]
all fly from BKK not Don Meaung
So, I can book a flight online at airasia.com and after arriving at the international terminal, clearing customs, collecting luggage, I can walk to the domestic wing in the same terminal to fly to phuket?
[QUOTE=Ny Desiman]So, I can book a flight online at airasia.com and after arriving at the international terminal, clearing customs, collecting luggage, I can walk to the domestic wing in the same terminal to fly to phuket?[/QUOTE]Sure can.
You'll come out of immigration/baggage/customs on level 2, and then proceed up to level 4 to check back in for your Air Asia flight.
Air Asia check-in is at the E row (if I remember right). Just make sure you check in at least 45 minutes before your flight or you'll lose your ticket.
[QUOTE=Ny Desiman]So, I can book a flight online at airasia.com and after arriving at the international terminal, clearing customs, collecting luggage, I can walk to the domestic wing in the same terminal to fly to phuket?[/QUOTE]
Yes, you can!
For as little as approximately $45/EUR30 for a single trip.
However, take into account that your baggage allowance is only15 kilos for checked baggage.
So if you have a heavy suitcase you'll have to pay for the excess luggage. You can check on their website how much they charge.
As I always travel light I've never had to pay extra.
Never rains when it pours.
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/21210/aot-beefs-up-security-a-city-airport[/url]
[QUOTE=Ny Desiman]So, I can book a flight online at airasia.com and after arriving at the international terminal, clearing customs, collecting luggage, I can walk to the domestic wing in the same terminal to fly to phuket?[/QUOTE]Just be sure to leave enough time. BKK is one of the world's biggest airports. Not crowded, just huge.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]BKK is one of the world's biggest airports. Not crowded, just huge.[/QUOTE]And badly laid out. Changi for example is even larger but it seems you never have to walk more than 100m or so. At Swampyphum it's often closer to a kilometer. Between the distances and the confusing signage, a lot of people miss connections here.
I'd be grateful for some advice:
I'm attending a conference in Singapore later this year, and I'd like to fly my TGF out there for company. She has travelled there once before in the company of another man, and was questioned at Immigration before being let in. I won't be able to accompany her through Immigration on this occasion, although I can meet her at the airport.
Does anyone know what documentation she would require to get through Immigration easily? Return flight ticket? Evidence of hotel booking? Enough funds? I suspect she may wish to stay on after I depart (presumably to do some local sightseeing?) so a return ticket might be awkward.
Thanks in advance.
PS If you want to know why I am bringing a Thai girl to Singapore, it's because I like her... :-)
Mouse. I am surprised. Singapore and Thailand are both members of ASEAN, meaning free travel and no visas needed between those countries.
It might have been a one off situation, OTOH, Thai girls are known for flying to S'pore for a week or so, to work, as ST and LT prices are higher than Thailand. So immigration at Changi might be looking for a pattern, and ask a few questions to all pretty TGs.
If you get her a return ticket, make sure it is a ticket which can be changed with no fee, or a very small fee. Or buy her a ticket, which is electronic, which can be cancelled without penalty. Once she has the print out, cancel the ticket, and buy her the real ticket she is planning on using. (I do this with hotel bookings for my indo GF, so she can show the european embassy where she is applying for a visa that she does, in fact, have a hotel booked, and paid for. I make the booking, pring out the confirmation, then immediately cancel it).
PS. if you do that, make sure her real flight is the same as the cancelled one. it would look strange if she shows an "E" ticket landing at 10.00 pm, when she in fact landed at 11.00 am. but at least, her return ticket is ..........up to you.
[QUOTE=Mouse1] Does anyone know what documentation she would require to get through Immigration easily? Return flight ticket? Evidence of hotel booking? Enough funds? I suspect she may wish to stay on after I depart (presumably to do some local sightseeing?) so a return ticket might be awkward. /[QUOTE]Enough funds would be essential and a return ticket to show she is on a shopping break. Up to you if you want to front her the dough but no funds and no return ticket would spell trouble. I have an old hooker friend who goes there all the time shopping, for customers.
On another matter, I see some guy is selling videos of his Bkk/Pattaya experiences on ebay and doing quite well at it too. Hundreds of positive feedbacks. Takes all types.
What's been happening in LOS {Land Of Scams} lately:
[quote=]
ThailAnd as a tourist destiation has never really recovered since the tsunami in 2004.
Just as it started to pick up we had the coup with tanks on the streets.
At the same time the stand in government changed the rules overnight about Expats dealing with Thais, they they did a complete U turn the next day causing utter confusion,
Then we have had the red shirts & yelow shirts with their two bahts worth. yet more tanks on the streets
Bombs in Bangkok over the New years,
Cancelled sean summit which was broadacast worldwide,
Closing the main airport & stranding passengers. Also over the past 18 months the Baht has gone from 70 to 52/53 thats a 25% rise for tourists, at the same time the high cost of fuel, has caused the prices for everything including bowls of rice to go up. All this means that Thailand is no longer a cheap place to live or visit compared to other Asian destinations
Others of highlighted the visa requirements, and now the scammers are more brazen
Instead of the shop / bar owners critsing the visitors for not coming or been stingy, maybe they should look at the reasons why & blame people closer to home.
[/quote]
[QUOTE=PinkPearl]What's been happening in LOS {Land Of Scams} lately: [/QUOTE]Good luck I am not alone in thinking that something wrong in land of smile.
Costs rise for tourist to go there. And yes you still see thais in new cars new motorbike. Even upcountry new cars new motorbike. LooKing carefully.
Look like they have still good buying power. But from where the moneys comes as average salary up country is only around 8000 to 12000 Baht. A new motorbike is easy 50.000 baht and a new car over 600.000 baht. Damm how they can buy? Lately we told to a ISG member teacher upcountry that may be 30.000 salary is not enouth. So how then you buy with wage 8 to 12.
Lately my daughter thai called me. Papa technic scool now very expensive. Food gazoline for motorbike and fees Baht 6000 per month.
How then thais do with 8000 baht salary for a all family. Oh yes may be all of them have a sponsor farang. Sometime I believe this. Each family upcountry have one or two girl in Pattaya or Bangkok prostitution. Or looking for sponsors.
I am leaving near nakon sawan. Have count once two hundred family having girls in Pattaya. Checking around from where the money of thai owning new nice house in my area comes from. With no exeptions all of them have someone working in Pattaya phuket or Bangkok. Or have farang.
I just write down what I am thingking right now. Because tomorow my daughter need a note book 20.000 TO 30.000 as a farang I pay cash. Do thai pay cash? Don't think so. But friend of daughter have new note book and no farang in family. THEY ARE SIMPLY RICE FARMER. End of the story for today.
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In looking online for an October 23 flight to Bkk with a return Nov. 8, it appears I can get an EVA flight for $738 via Orbitz vs. $783 through the EVA web site.
Generally, it seems the web site is cheaper. Any reason I should book the higher cost through the EVA web site instead of booking through the Orbitz site?
Thanks,
Guys
[QUOTE=Redfield10]In looking online for an October 23 flight to Bkk with a return Nov. 8, it appears I can get an EVA flight for $738 via Orbitz vs. $783 through the EVA web site.
Generally, it seems the web site is cheaper. Any reason I should book the higher cost through the EVA web site instead of booking through the Orbitz site?
Thanks,
Guys[/QUOTE]
If you collect Eva air miles check what each price offers on the air miles.
If not then just go for the cheapest.
I will be going to LOS for 2 weeks in late sept, home early oct.. 3 days in BKK, 8 days in PTY and then back up to BKK again...
I know the rain and crappy weather that might happen.. But I wonder how everything is moving at that time? Do the "establishments" close down as the girls go home during off season or is it normal action as always?
And how is it with this effing swineflu?? Read in the news that people should not go to places where people are.. like to dinner, cinemas, clubs...
Is it noticable ?
[QUOTE=Divine Baal]I will be going to LOS for 2 weeks in late sept, home early oct.. 3 days in BKK, 8 days in PTY and then back up to BKK again...
I know the rain and crappy weather that might happen.. But I wonder how everything is moving at that time? Do the "establishments" close down as the girls go home during off season or is it normal action as always?
And how is it with this effing swineflu?? Read in the news that people should not go to places where people are.. like to dinner, cinemas, clubs.
Is it noticable ?[/QUOTE]No, you will find that the girls are still where they are suppose to be. Just less tourists means you can use your bargaining skills. PTY is pretty quiet as far as the tourist crowd is concern, but I was there last week and the girls are still there. As for Bkk, this is probably a really good time because I went to Nana a few days ago and there were many stunners there even though it was after 10pm when I got there. This can only mean that the recession is taking it's toll.
I see mostly Arabic and Indian (from India) tourist here now. Also the petty crimes is on the rises because of the slow down in business, so becareful when you are moving about.
[quote=andybkk]no, you will find that the girls are still where they are suppose to be. just less tourists means you can use your bargaining skills. pty is pretty quiet as far as the tourist crowd is concern, but i was there last week and the girls are still there. as for bkk, this is probably a really good time because i went to nana a few days ago and there were many stunners there even though it was after 10pm when i got there. this can only mean that the recession is taking it's toll.
i see mostly arabic and indian (from india) tourist here now. also the petty crimes is on the rises because of the slow down in business, so becareful when you are moving about.[/quote]pattaya low. like to tell this here. yesterday at the main news time at german tv chanel sat3 was a report that some tv channel journalist posed and acting as ****hile and sex tourist in pattaya and bangkok (testing if its possible to get **** sex in hotel). all was filmed with hiden camera.
they asked from concierge and room boy if they can provide with boy and girl young one. test and action was taken in 8 hotels 4 and 5 star hotel in pattaya
and yes all of them delivered this service. boy and girl **** all filmed with hiden camera.(they have not mentioned name of hotel not sure. but i recongnize in tv. amari. royal cliff nova lodge)
result large tour operator in switerland immediately (kuoni hotelplan) deleted all concerned hotel in pattaya from sales and feature in brochure programm and consider to ban pattaya on theier programm.
story to follow.
Jeff,
Do you have a link? I would like to check that out if you can provide a link to it.
Please keep us info.
[url]http://www.pattayatoday.net/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=6866[/url]
Hummm ... I wonder whether this will get rid of all the taxi touts and hustlers, or simply remove the cheaper taxi options.
In general what it will mean is the dark influence will now make tourists suffer in other ways.
Have you noticed there is now no trolleys available at the taxi drop off area's? Only if you are very lucky will you get one.
Its the strange way the Thai mind works, but someone will link this lack of trollies to there being no hustlers and scammers, and perhaps the hustlers and scammers were actuallty putting trollies out for drop off passangers, so in fact the scammers and hustlers are good, and so they should be allowed back.
[QUOTE=Daddy07][url]http://www.pattayatoday.net/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=6866[/url]
Hummm ... I wonder whether this will get rid of all the taxi touts and hustlers, or simply remove the cheaper taxi options.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Hummm ... I wonder whether this will get rid of all the taxi touts and hustlers, or simply remove the cheaper taxi options.[/QUOTE]It will probably do absolutely nothing. I came through Swampypoom the last time they had one of these 'crackdowns' and my driver -- from the regular AOT public taxi stand, the best and safest place to catch a cab there -- was laughing at the absurdity of all. 'They speak English and I don't,' he said, referring to the 'ghost taxis'. 'They wear sportsjackets and I wear a plain blue shirt. They pay the police more than I ever could. How can I expect to get any passengers when they're around?' He'd waited 2 hours for his first fare that day, me.
[QUOTE=AndyBKK]Jeff,
Do you have a link? I would like to check that out if you can provide a link to it.
Please keep us info.[/QUOTE]Sorry no link I just saw the report on tv and not in full only the end. But I found this in internet. Apparently this story have already start in April.
Hhttp://www.fernsehen.ch/blog/archives/2343-Rundschau-u.a.-mit-Sex-mit-Kindern-Schweizer-Reiseveranstalter-schockiert.htmlotelplan Switzerland
I read this today re the Aug. 8 paper. Another big hit to Thai tourism?
[quote]On the front page of today Singapore Straits Times.
"Travellers alerted to Bangkok airport scam."
800,000 Singaporean are said to has visited Thailand last year.[/quote]This issue isn't going away. Though many travellers will be staying away, as far as LOS is concerned.
[QUOTE=Daddy07][url]http://www.pattayatoday.net/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=6866[/url]
Hummm ... I wonder whether this will get rid of all the taxi touts and hustlers, or simply remove the cheaper taxi options.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully the touts and the hustlers.
On one trip I went through customs then went to change some cash to baht.
I turned around and there were 6 taxi touts all wanting my business.
I just said a friend is comming to pick me up and they all left me alone.
I had already had booked a taxi.
I did a check again today on the Bank of Ayudhya ATM (the yellow ones with Krung Siri on them).
I am glad I did as I came across a very interesting twist.
I took out 15,000 baht from a UK account (Visa Debit and not Visa Credit) and then immediatly went to my own on line banking and also the B of A website.
[url]http://www.krungsri.com/en/foreign-exchange-rates.aspx[/url]
The amount worked out at 56.615 baht to the pound after charges at the UK end (checking how much sterling my account was reduced by, divided by the 15,000 baht received)
So the interesting thing for me was not that the BofA is still not charging the 150baht, but the fact that they give you the "Sight Bill" exchange rate (same as travellers cheques) which is higher than the exchange rate you would get for cash, and without having to pay service charges to get travellers cheques issued.
All in all taking money out via ATM from Bank Of Ayudhya is the most cost effective way of getting cash, better exchange rate than cash, and no service charge and hassle like TC's.
I will check sometime whether UOB also gives you the rate of "Sight Bill" when taking money out of their ATM's.
Sorry typo, should have said 55.615 in the earlier post (in case anyone was wondering where you get 56.615 from).
HM Queen Sirikit was 77 today. I made two of her Isaan subjects happy today with a full facial and gs to share between them. Hope you all followed suit.
[QUOTE=The Pro]I will check sometime whether UOB also gives you the rate of "Sight Bill" when taking money out of their ATM's.[/QUOTE]
I've been using UOB for the past few weeks exclusively. How do I check this 'sight bill' stuff?
[QUOTE=Pita123]I've been using UOB for the past few weeks exclusively. How do I check this 'sight bill' stuff?[/QUOTE]Check what the "Buying cash" and what the "Buying Sight Bill" rates are, and see which one you get from UOB (by dividing the Thai baht you take out into the amount your foreign currency account goes down by).
You can find all the exchange rates for UOB here.
[url]http://www.uob.co.th/business/foreign-exchange-rates.htm[/url]
As you can see from this for GBP they buy your cash notes at 55.15 baht to the pound, but they buy sight bill (TC etc..) at 55.591 to the pound. So after your Thai baht withdrawel check what the rate is, is it near to the cash rate or the sight bill rate.
For me the Bank of Ayudhya have "Sight Bill" rates.
[QUOTE=The Pro]The amount worked out at 56.615 baht to the pound after charges at the UK end (checking how much sterling my account was reduced by, divided by the 15,000 baht received)[/QUOTE]
Open a Nationwide Flex account. They don't charge for foreign ATM withdrawals, and you get the inter-bank exchange rate.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Open a Nationwide Flex account. They don't charge for foreign ATM withdrawals, and you get the inter-bank exchange rate.[/QUOTE]
Yes they do now .84%
[url]http://www.nationwide.co.uk/current_account/foreigntransactions.htm[/url]
they are alot more competative than other banks.
I found a way to get my Thai girl fix without going to Thailand.
There are a lot of Thai girls working here in the states as Au Pairs. Most of them are between 22 and 27, all their bills are paid for by the Au Pair system, what you do is look for a local Thai Temple and try to get a group together that will teach you Thai. Their English is real basic, so it works both ways, become friends with them and..... Most of these girls are looking for a way to stay in the states, and after their contract is up they have up to 6 months to travel on their Au Pair visa before they have to return home.
Just promise them what they want to hear, and you can have a lot of fun. LOL
Friends,
Is there any impact of swine flu in MPs, is it safe to visit now.
Thanks
"Taxi services at Suvarnabhumi airport are coming under tighter scrutiny after a passenger accused a driver registered with the airport of trying to drug her."
[quote=]Writer: Bangkokpost.com
Published: 12/08/2009 at 10:44 PM
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/151627/airport-taxis-under-close-scrutiny[/url]
The passenger, who asked not to be named, said she caught a taxi from the stand at the airport on July 27 to take her to Phloenchit Road.
She said she did not mind paying the airport taxi surcharge of 50 baht as she believed the service was safe and reliable. The driver's name and telephone number were registered with the airport.
The woman said she noticed the driver wore dark glasses and drove slowly despite the fact there was not much traffic.
At one point in the journey the driver blocked the air-conditioning console with his left hand and the woman said she started to feel giddy about five minutes later and her arms and legs went numb.
She felt like she had been given an anaesthetic before an operation. She had to open the window to get some air and told the driver to drop her off.
The woman went to a nearby hospital and had herself checked, but no toxic substances were found.
The woman complained to the airport's public transport centre but she does not believe any action has been taken.
A source at the Transport Ministry said other passengers had complained of similar incidents.
Chairat Sa-nguansue, director-general of the Land Transport Department, said he would look into the matter.
In some cases, complaints had turned out to be a hoax intended to ruin the reputation of taxi drivers, Mr Chairat said.[/quote]
[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]Yes they do now .84%
[url]http://www.nationwide.co.uk/current_account/foreigntransactions.htm[/url]
they are alot more competative than other banks.[/QUOTE]
Yes, they started passing on the charge from Visa on the First of June. But you can still get the fee-free (for now) Cash Card debit card which is operated by Mastercard: See the third Q & A in your link.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl]"Taxi services at Suvarnabhumi airport are coming under tighter scrutiny after a passenger accused a driver registered with the airport of trying to drug her."[/QUOTE]There have been reports like this for years, usually involving women. Some might be paranoia, some seem to have been real. I am a little surprised that it would happen from the AOT taxi stand. As the article says, all those drivers are registered, so they tend to behave themselves. That's why I always recommend this stand and not trying to skimp on the B50 fee by going to the arrivals level or elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Coolboy]Friends,
Is there any impact of swine flu in MPs, is it safe to visit now.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
was it dangerous BEFORE?
Come on... diseases can be anywhere, maybe on the way to a safe MP...
let's get a life:)
[QUOTE=PinkPearl]"In some cases, complaints had turned out to be a hoax intended to ruin the reputation of taxi drivers, Mr Chairat said." [/QUOTE]
I am desperately trying to figure out how it's possible to besmirch the reputations of Bangkok taxi drivers.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]I am desperately trying to figure out how it's possible to besmirch the reputations of Bangkok taxi drivers.[/QUOTE]
You could call one of them honest. That would probably get them tossed from the Union.
When tips are fees
And fees are tips
The big head flees
As the small one dips
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well, since you are from the US of A, let me ask you this:
Don't the waiters/waitresses expect tips? (in your home country I mean).
They get a fix wage for providing a service, but the idea of receiving a TIP at the end incentivises them to perform better, am I right? [/QUOTE]
Well … yes and no – mostly no!
Most restaurants in the USA pay their wait staff shit wages with the intent that they will be compensated with customer “tips.” So, yes, the “tip” encourages them to perform well, but no, the fixed wage does not compensate adequately for the performance of the basic service. A tip of 10-20% is expected for standard service. Exceptional service might encourage a larger “tip.” If you don’t pay it, you might have Hell to pay. Some establishments even add a 10-20% service charge right on the bill, i.e., a “fee,” in which case an additional “tip” would not be expected. The “fee” is the “tip,” you see. Without these “tips” or “fees,” the employees would starve.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]No, no and no again.... your reasoning, while not erroneous is not entirely correct: you are mixing up Tip & Fee.
At a massage parlor, I am paying 400thb for a 1 hour massage: this is a fix fee for a fix service. In the room, I can choose to pay another FEE for another kind of service: 500 for HJ, 1000 for BJ, 1500 for FS: this is in NO WAY a TIP!! just because some people in here call it a tip does not make it right. a tip is a monetary gratification given to a service provider, over and above the fee for the performed service.
If the massage lady gives you the worst HJ of your life, the cost will still be 500thb no? so why call it a tip? it would seem dumb to me to "reward" someone with a tip for a bad service.
You are mixing everything up.[/QUOTE]
Again …yes and no – mostly no.
Yes, a “tip” (gratuity) is generally distinguishable from a “fee” (charge) as you have so aptly explained above, but no, sometimes the “fee” is considered by the service provider as inadequate compensation for the service performed, in which case, an additional “tip” or “fee” as you call it, is expected. You pay the oily shop 400 for the general massage, and the girl 500 to massage your dick. Now you call that her “fee,” but she regards it as her “tip” for “special” services over and above a plain massage. Again, a “fee” is a “tip” and a “tip” is a “fee.” Remember, she receives some money from the shop as well for her services. That, she considers is her “fee.” What ever you want to call it, you pay nothing more because nothing more is expected.
The same is true with bar girls and freelancers. You agree on an amount for her services, and whether that is considered a “fee” or a “tip,” nothing more is expected. If she does expect an additional “tip,” and begins to whine, I might whisper in her ear something like: “Seabiscuit in the seventh.” Some guys pay more for the services, some pay less, but that’s beside the point.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You still don't get it... whether you are at Annies or Poseidon, the ladies will expect a tip, but as these places ARE all inclusive, it is your decision to tip or not.
If you are too weak at heart to face a whining pooying begging for a tip, then don't blame the parlors. I have had no problem telling girls that did not perform that although they expect a tip, they have certainly not deserved it… [/QUOTE]
Well, no, I’m not too weak at heart for that, but I don’t want to be vilified as a Cheap Charlie either, and if every provider at every soapy becomes pissed off and angry when a “tip” is not offered for otherwise “all-in” standard services, I want to avoid that embarrassment – a good reason why I read this forum.
So… this brings us back to Annie’s, and Poseidon, and all the other soapies, where it is my understanding that the shop takes the lion’s share of the so called “all-in fee,” while the girl, (much like the American waitress), gets chicken shit. Sure, the decision is up to me whether to give her a “tip” or not, but if I don’t, she might not be adequately compensated, and she’ll likely take her frustration out on me, el cheap-o.
In short, if the girl is adequately compensated by the “fee” for her service, she should not expect an additional “tip,” because a “tip” would not be appropriate, except for an outstanding mind blowing performance. If, on-the-other-hand, the “fee” is not fair and adequate compensation for standard service, then a “tip” is expected, appropriate, and, in my mind, required.
Just tell me the total cost, man! Every monger wants to know! :D
Daddy and Nic:
Taking up previous bandwidth guys. Take it to the fight club ;)
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Daddy and Nic:
Taking up previous bandwidth guys. Take it to the fight club ;)[/QUOTE]
Why?
We're not fighting, and it's the same bandwidth in the Fight club anyway.
But if you want to fight: Fuck you! :D
(Geeze ... I've already moved the fucking discussion from the Annie's thread as suggested by some twit... Oh, that was YOU, wasn't it? WTF do you want?)
Not a report but a question since I know that several guys here are fluent in Thai.
I want to know how to ask a TG if she does anal or not. I don't need to know the most formal and proper way... nor do I want to say it in a vulgar way (ie "Can I fuck you up the ass?").
Just basically, what is a polite and grammatically correct way of asking "Do you do anal sex?"
Thanks.
Kuratla
[QUOTE=Kuratla]Just basically, what is a polite and grammatically correct way of asking "Do you do anal sex?"[/QUOTE]
Is there really anything polite about wanting to fuck somebody in the ass? If you have reached this stage the last thing to be concerned about is politeness....well he did say please!
[QUOTE=Kuratla]Just basically, what is a polite and grammatically correct way of asking "Do you do anal sex?"[/QUOTE]
"I would like to fuck you up the arse please, would that be ok with you?"
ROFLMAO
Ozirob
Thanks but I already know how to speak English.
I ask them if they would like to "bite the pillow" if they jump on all fours and assume the position, I assume the formalities are dismissed and we can commence.
Hand gestures work also.
[QUOTE=Kuratla]Just basically, what is a polite and grammatically correct way of asking "Do you do anal sex?"[/QUOTE]For the average P4P bargirl, [i]"Boom boom toot, mai?"[/i] is probably about as grammatically correct as you will require.
[QUOTE=Kuratla]I want to know how to ask a TG if she does anal or not. I don't need to know the most formal and proper way... nor do I want to say it in a vulgar way (ie "Can I fuck you up the ass?").[/QUOTE]Thai Bar Girls: Best attenuated by several shots of tequila.
[?AnnLanders Emulation Server: Enter]When you are working out the deal, take her hand in yours, place on her lap, then ask what she will be giving you and for how much. She will ask you, "What you want?" Tell her, 'everything' = "aow tuk yahng". Then smile, take her hand, slide it around to her bum, and whisper, "aow tuk yahng, aow dtoot dooay", (I want everything, I want your bum too) and laugh with your eyes a little. Then say, (again with the smiling eyes sparkling) 'I like you too much, but I am a very very bad boy sometimes, you know?'
She will get the message, and she will laugh a little, and she just might say 'OK'. And, it won't be embarrassing at all. Many times, they are going to say NO, no way, but you can easily tell by her reaction (especially to the money involved) if indeed, 'no' MEANS 'yes'. And, then again sometimes, they will SAY 'OK, ok', but then won't really let you do it. TIT
The best way I have found is to take a girl once, then impress upon her that you really can't be happy without getting even just a little bit of 'backside', tell her she makes you crazy and you need it bad. Then, go take her again a couple of nights later and get her shitfaced and real hot. Presto, 99% of the time, you're in. (You are now her special customer, it's her duty to make you happy!) This particular method has been far more successful for me Kuratla. Simple requirements: Plenty of latex, a tube of "Play", and a healthy wealthy modicum of moxie. That's it. ;) [/AnnLanders Emulation]
Pic: Sister pull, the dynamic duo. Yes, they really are sisters, 18 & 19, unbelievably cute, and they made out with each other (and me) like crazy. You may surmise correctly from my reply and this pic what must have happened next that night.
Absolutely outstanding.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]For the average P4P bargirl, [i]"Boom boom toot, mai?"[/i] is probably about as grammatically correct as you will require.[/QUOTE]More like "doot" than "toot".
Hello fellow mongers.
First of all I would like to inform you that this is my 3rd trip to Thailand my second to phuket staying for 18 days 11 in phuket and 7 in Bangkok everything is in order booked at salathai resort arrived with my friend last Sunday I have been mongering for the last 7 years I am 32 good looking and very decent person.
So we rest on Sunday and decided to hit some beer bars before going to pick up our night brids from Hollywood first impression girls are bored drinks becoming expensive since last visit in 2005 although its low season no problem I will get lucky in hollywood.
Well nothing happened couple of girls drwew my attention but they passed one claimed having a period ohter one said tom.
So I find a nice girl we dance she tells me she got to go to work for 20 mins and come back may be I should accompany her. Surprise she is a dancing girl next to hollywood I have to bur her 2 ladys drinks and paid a bar fine total damage 820 THB then we go to my hotel and paid 1000 THB for short time I know guys I was a dumb ass but I said to my self may I am tired and that was only my first day I was horney and tom is another day.
Second Day worse than before we headed to tiger me and my friend he got luck and left me I was in a confusion who should I pick the place was overcrowed and spent all the night cruising and by 500 pm I finally spotted a nice girl we started dancing and she said she would like to go to safari yes the pub in the mountian I knew it so I said what the fuck lets hit there however my alaram did not work when she asked for flowers when she took her other two friends and when the Taxi asked for 200 THB she said ok although its only 20 per preson for farang and for Thai 10 THB.
We arrive at Safari and I know from previous report that it is not like it used to be we go in their several lady boys that place is ruined it seems they knew the waiter very well and he ask me what the ladies want to drinks I smell the trap and decided to get from the place and run away. So Second day is screwd for me No problem there is always tom.
Third Day.
Ok me and my friend lay on the beach in spite of the annoying vendors and the fuss with the personnal beach who took 200 THB for the chairs we enjoy now we learned our lesson we find that we pay too much for the drinks probably 1000 THb so we decided to buy a bottle leave it in the place I know that only Thais are allowed to get bottles from outsided in my country we do that and pay what we called bouchone I. E. Cover charge for the bottle.
I learned my lesson we will arrive early at Tiger take a good table and pick up my night bird early well two hours passed and only one girl drew my attention sad she told me she have to leave to Hollywood I told her can't leave my friend who already picked ok girl started crusing the place left my table time is running still no one chick damn what is happening to me am I losing my touch I am still ok good looking person decent man have good money yet I don't want to be fooled.
So suddenly I hit two girls in nice dress so we started dancing I invite them to my table in spite of noticing scratchs on each cheak of one of them but she was clead and fair skin I strat flurtting with her and dance threasome for more thatn 1& half with both of them well finally I am back in the game then come the seriosu talk her friend told me to take them both for 2000 Thb I said no problem however I was hearing to Phi Phi island so I opted to take one I took the other girl who introduced me since I felt her friend strating to be a bit cold and in a bad mood. Afterwards I tell her tom after I return from phi phi I can take them both her friends leaves.
She tells me where is my hotel I tell her near by my friend and his bird accompany us she keep saying to me that she hates the lady with my friend that she is not good now we enter a family mart get some drinks ciggerates for her and in the room we are.
No once in the room I see that her nails are not clean could not see that in the club she is got hair above her lips I strated to be off from her.
I gave her 1000 THB she said that I told her in the club 1500 I replied thats for short time and she keep asking me for taix cab I gave her 20 telling her thats the double fair of a Thai now all the fuss began she shout fuck you and gave me a third finger I warned her I hate swearing I am a decent man and don't curse anyone.
She goes shower then me afterwards I ask her for massage I need to relax she says she does not know no problem how about smoke she hesitated then she goes for couplle of minutes then she stops and say something and after that she said fuck you again then I did what make the night the most unbearable nightmare pushed her cheak very lightly and told her it is not nice to say the F word. She got crazy and strated wearing her clothes telling it is not good to push a lady away she was was just kidding I told her me too I was just warning her very lighly and she said she will go and start shouting I told her fine I will take the money back 1020 Thb which I did and took them from her purse and headed to my safe and was about to get 250 THb for her expenses now she she jumped and cursed and start yelling and said to me she will call the police I tell her go ahead she called the reception I hang out and then called them that I am having trouble with the lady with me.
Suddenly I found her telling me that she will give me the worse nightmare she will say I attacked her and beat her and she spotted an umpty bottle and she was about to hit her self in order to make a wound to her body.
Whats wrong what happened for all this now the security and reception comes and she strated speaking to them in Thai and I said to them the whole story and she smiled cunnly saying do you think they will believe I will call the police I know that was scam since porsitution is not legal in Thailand and the reception and the security guy keep telling me that I boom boom her and did not took back the money from her.
Now guys that my fourth day I cancelled the trip today to Phi Phi writing my report now I wonder to tell me what did I do wrong where is the mistake I came here full of dreams to kill all the fursturation of whole year of work and tiredness and the overwhelming in my country Egypt and now I ve face this I still got 8 days in phuket then 7 days in Bangkok my friend is leaving after tomorrow I will be all alone but with such experience I think I will never return back to Thailand again.
I really appreciate your comments and inputs.
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[QUOTE=Kimo29]I gave her 1000 THB she said that I told her in the club 1500 I replied thats for short time and she keep asking me for taix cab I gave her 20 telling her thats the double fair of a Thai now all the fuss began she shout fuck you and gave me a third finger I warned her I hate swearing I am a decent man and don't curse anyone.
She goes shower then me afterwards I ask her for massage I need to relax she says she does not know no problem how about smoke she hesitated then she goes for couplle of minutes then she stops and say something and after that she said fuck you again then I did what make the night the most unbearable nightmare pushed her cheak very lightly and told her it is not nice to say the F word. She got crazy and strated wearing her clothes telling it is not good to push a lady away she was was just kidding I told her me too I was just warning her very lighly and she said she will go and start shouting I told her fine I will take the money back 1020 Thb which I did and took them from her purse and headed to my safe and was about to get 250 THb for her expenses now she she jumped and cursed and start yelling and said to me she will call the police I tell her go ahead she called the reception I hang out and then called them that I am having trouble with the lady with me.
Suddenly I found her telling me that she will give me the worse nightmare she will say I attacked her and beat her and she spotted an umpty bottle and she was about to hit her self in order to make a wound to her body.
Whats wrong what happened for all this now the security and reception comes and she strated speaking to them in Thai and I said to them the whole story and she smiled cunnly saying do you think they will believe I will call the police I know that was scam since porsitution is not legal in Thailand and the reception and the security guy keep telling me that I boom boom her and did not took back the money from her.
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#1 as a foreigner you never beat a thai girl even the simple act of a "light touching" they can take as a threat. I've had police called on me, you do not want this. And especially as being from the middle east, unfortuantely, justified or not justified, the middle east does not have the best reputation to thai working girls.
#2 am confused, seems to say you agreed to 2000 at the club then you say 1500 but paid only 1000 then you took back the money after you had sex with her? and paid only 20 baht for taxi (where is a taxi 20 baht?)? You are talking a bus not a taxi maybe. Never take back the money, just pay it and let them go and learn your lessons. Why you create such a problem over 1000 baht. Give it to her and boot her out the door. Especially after you already had sex with her. What are you expect 4 shots for short time and 1000 baht?
#3 you seem like a cheap charlie as you are talking about hiding bottles and such so it sounds like you tried to cheap the girl out of money. Apologize if you did not but your report makes it sound like you were trying to lower the price. People from the Middle East already have a bad reputation in LOS for many girls so you trying to lower the cost and take the money back created an instant problem for you.
#4 you ruined your own vacation IMHO by the sound of your report. You wanted boom boom the girl but you agree on one price, but pay her less and then you push her. Never good news.
Maybe you are not explain right but it sure sounds like you messed it up yourself. They might be working girls but trying to cheat them and then push them, light shove or hard shove it not matter, is not a way to treat the girls if you are a foreigner (not matter where you are from, you don't cheat the girls and you don't push them). You do not own them or treat them like property, you rent them for sex for short time you do not rent them to own them and do what you please with them.
My POV... you mucked it up yourself. Try to not take back money, if you agree to pay a certain amount pay it, and do not touch them in a way that is threatening.
It is true some girls are psycho and will go nuts on you but not all of them, for me your report reads that you were at fault and created your own problems. Sorry if I am reading wrong but it sure smells fishy to me your story.
I'm in the process of doing some research for a brief stop over in BKK.
I've seen Tamamomi or Tama-momi advertised, and would like to know more about it.
I know direct from Japanese it means "ball massage"...so I do get the general idea.
However, can someone tell me what to expect....really.
I was in Macau recently, and had what they called a thigh or groin massage at a few sauna's; done skilfully it is very nice. Just wondered if this was something similar?
1-Sorry mate but I aint cheap charlie I have agreed to 2000 for two girls then we agreed on 1000 for short time ok. I know how things goes by the way we did not have sex at all. Once in the room I gave her the money and told her 1000 foir short time 1500 for long time thats fair and that is the going rate in phuket As far as I know
2- She took a bottle of cold water they offer in the hotel does this makes me a cheap charlie.?
3- Does we always have to deny the old and so called bad reputation since we are from middle east is she allow to swear and see f word to me and give me the third finger and all I have to do is to say thank you madame I am all yours. Please curse me and swear and do what ever you want. Do you like to be insulted will you feel happy when a girl says to you F* and show her third finger to you I wonder what will you do then
4- She was a mean and bad fish not me because yesterday I met the most beautiful girl and decent girl in TIger and guess what she staying with me and I gave her 2000 Thb so I think that does not make me a cheap charlie.
5- I took the money back because she was mean and insulting me.
6 I apologize for the confusion I meant I was going to give 250 THB for taxi and the 20 THb was indeed for the bus.
7- I never came across this problem before I have been in Thailand for 3 times and always being honest and genrous with the girls respect them and treat them like my GFs actually I provdie a BFE yes I cuddle them pamper them and treat them like my queens may be you should strat reconsidering the way you look at middle eastern I respect the ladies and understand their situation I never look them as a slaves at all.
Hope that aforementioned clear the situation to your good self.
Regards
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[QUOTE=Kimo29]1-Sorry mate but I aint cheap charlie I have agreed to 2000 for two girls then we agreed on 1000 for short time ok. I know how things goes by the way we did not have sex at all. Once in the room I gave her the money and told her 1000 foir short time 1500 for long time thats fair and that is the going rate in phuket As far as I know
2- She took a bottle of cold water they offer in the hotel does this makes me a cheap charlie.?
3- Does we always have to deny the old and so called bad reputation since we are from middle east is she allow to swear and see f word to me and give me the third finger and all I have to do is to say thank you madame I am all yours. Please curse me and swear and do what ever you want. Do you like to be insulted will you feel happy when a girl says to you F* and show her third finger to you I wonder what will you do then
4- She was a mean and bad fish not me because yesterday I met the most beautiful girl and decent girl in TIger and guess what she staying with me and I gave her 2000 Thb so I think that does not make me a cheap charlie.
5- I took the money back because she was mean and insulting me.
6 I apologize for the confusion I meant I was going to give 250 THB for taxi and the 20 THb was indeed for the bus.
7- I never came across this problem before I have been in Thailand for 3 times and always being honest and genrous with the girls respect them and treat them like my GFs actually I provdie a BFE yes I cuddle them pamper them and treat them like my queens may be you should strat reconsidering the way you look at middle eastern I respect the ladies and understand their situation I never look them as a slaves at all.
Hope that aforementioned clear the situation to your good self.
Regards [/QUOTE]
Then you got nothing to worry about. Why the SOS letter if you know everything already?
[QUOTE=Kimo29]1-Sorry mate but I aint cheap charlie I have agreed to 2000 for two girls then we agreed on 1000 for short time ok. I know how things goes by the way we did not have sex at all. Once in the room I gave her the money and told her 1000 foir short time 1500 for long time thats fair and that is the going rate in phuket As far as I know
2- She took a bottle of cold water they offer in the hotel does this makes me a cheap charlie.?
3- Does we always have to deny the old and so called bad reputation since we are from middle east is she allow to swear and see f word to me and give me the third finger and all I have to do is to say thank you madame I am all yours. Please curse me and swear and do what ever you want. Do you like to be insulted will you feel happy when a girl says to you F* and show her third finger to you I wonder what will you do then
4- She was a mean and bad fish not me because yesterday I met the most beautiful girl and decent girl in TIger and guess what she staying with me and I gave her 2000 Thb so I think that does not make me a cheap charlie.
5- I took the money back because she was mean and insulting me.
6 I apologize for the confusion I meant I was going to give 250 THB for taxi and the 20 THb was indeed for the bus.
7- I never came across this problem before I have been in Thailand for 3 times and always being honest and genrous with the girls respect them and treat them like my GFs actually I provdie a BFE yes I cuddle them pamper them and treat them like my queens may be you should strat reconsidering the way you look at middle eastern I respect the ladies and understand their situation I never look them as a slaves at all.
Hope that aforementioned clear the situation to your good self.
Regards
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As a fellow Egyptian I can understand your anxiety and sexual frustration. Marriage is becoming useless and the women here have become like men (if her grand father or father were an Infitahi). In my trips to Thailand I have never had bad experiences like yours so I think you are quite unlucky this time. Anyway, if you had the decency to pay her half the agreed amount for NOT having sex with her then you are definitely not a 'cheap charlie' by our standards. In Egypt, it is common to have sex with a prostitute and then not pay her (which explains why our sex industry is dead despite being a poorer country than Thailand).
Have you seen how the Egyptian WGs/sharmutas act these days? Forget about these stupid swearing and insults. With the increasing mentality of Egyptian people "Us Vs. Them" between rich and poor they (the sharmutas) think it is their right to steal your mobile phone and money. At least the Thai girls do not dare steal. I have had much worse experiences with Egyptian WG than Thai believe me.
Hopefully, Bangkok will be better for you (I skipped Phuket on my last trip, so don't know what it is like). Don't forget to try Akane in Soi 33 Phrom Pong (zay ma oltelak mafish service a7san men keda ya ma3alem, yelhaso khorm teezak da standard :))
[QUOTE=Kimo29]1-Sorry mate but I aint cheap charlie I have agreed to 2000 for two girls then we agreed on 1000 for short time ok. I know how things goes by the way we did not have sex at all. Once in the room I gave her the money and told her 1000 foir short time 1500 for long time thats fair and that is the going rate in phuket As far as I know
2- She took a bottle of cold water they offer in the hotel does this makes me a cheap charlie.?
3- Does we always have to deny the old and so called bad reputation since we are from middle east is she allow to swear and see f word to me and give me the third finger and all I have to do is to say thank you madame I am all yours. Please curse me and swear and do what ever you want. Do you like to be insulted will you feel happy when a girl says to you F* and show her third finger to you I wonder what will you do then
4- She was a mean and bad fish not me because yesterday I met the most beautiful girl and decent girl in TIger and guess what she staying with me and I gave her 2000 Thb so I think that does not make me a cheap charlie.
5- I took the money back because she was mean and insulting me.
6 I apologize for the confusion I meant I was going to give 250 THB for taxi and the 20 THb was indeed for the bus.
7- I never came across this problem before I have been in Thailand for 3 times and always being honest and genrous with the girls respect them and treat them like my GFs actually I provdie a BFE yes I cuddle them pamper them and treat them like my queens may be you should strat reconsidering the way you look at middle eastern I respect the ladies and understand their situation I never look them as a slaves at all.
Hope that aforementioned clear the situation to your good self.
Regards
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Here is LBM, take on your situation! Of course this is a sterotype and Generalization!
1. Sometimes no matter what you agree to shit happens even when you're in your own country. But when it happens outside you have to back off sometimes even if you are right!
2. Because she didn't stick to the deal, you were getting upset inside and when she took the water, not sticking to the deal and now not even asking your temperature was boiling! Right! You can tell me Kimo29, I know about these things! Take a deep breath and admit it you will feel better! And Oh, you're not a Cheap Charlie!
3. Even though you are a nice guy you were brought up that you're the man! No one is going to talk to you like that and when she screamed at you, told you to fuck off, and then the middle finger, shit it went against everything you were taught in the Koran. If you weren't a nice guy you more likely would have smack the shit out of her instead you gave her a push. See when you push a bad fish, they snap back! That's where you went wrong. Like I said shit happens and when it happens in a different country sometimes you need to take a step back and chalk it up as a learning experience. We all have been through something like this we all pay a price.
4. See! There are good days and bad days, today you Chok Dee, you got a good fish and now you're thinking happy times for the rest of your trip and planning the next trip before you finish this one! Right!
5. Too late, never take the money back, because you are a man! Be a bigger and better man and just tell her to leave without tip or taxi money!
Now we all know you are a nice guy and we believe you treat them all like queens. But we also hear about Mid Eastern men that when their women step out of place and out of line! Shit happens to them! LBM, can only say which is when you're in someone else country, you can't do want you do at home, the advice I give you is take a deep breath, step back, open the door and show her out with a smile! Don't listen to the Koran!
Enjoy Kimo29 you have been working hard all year and you're a oil well ready to blast off! Go get them!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]5. Too late, never take the money back, because you are a man! Be a
bigger and better man and just tell her to leave without tip or taxi money!
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If she didn't provide sex, by all means get your money back.
Amjek,
My understanding is that he did get it but didn't like she change the agreement after? Which set him off and set her off since she was pulling a fast one!
" took the money back because she was mean and insulting "
LBM
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Kimo.
Seems you agreed 2000 baht for 2 (1000 each) and when you took just one she wanted 1500 baht.
This is standard stuff, Thai girls know many farang are weak willed twats and its why they will ask for "taxi money", demand tips for massage even when its all in pricing and all the other shit.
Its not called the "LOS" for nothing (thats the Land Of Smiles).
When dealing with Thai's be Thai.
Pay her 1000 baht as agreed and smile.
She gets upset and starts being crazy, smile at her and politely say thats the agreed amount and thats all you are getting, goodbye.
And smile. And smile again, and when she shouts then smile and keep asking her politely to leave, and smile.
Never touch them, never get angry, never get scared. Just smile and ask them to leave and keep saying goodbye......in a calm, gentle and polite voice and remember, keep smiling :)
Works everytime, once they realise they cannot wind you up with fear and aggression then they will give up. If they sense you are angry or scared they will go for the kill to get their extra money.
Ok I will redit my post Admin.
First for your information you mentioned Koran so just I am from Egypt (I. E.) Middle East does not make me a muslim since I am a christian coptic and by the way not all muslims are absuers may be you should reconsider your preception and lets not involve religion/politics in our forum as suggested by the Admin.
Guys its not a matter of the country of origin/ religion / color that defines a man so lets all say that there good men and bad women right and vice-versa.
As my fellow monger Rguy mentioned we suffer in our country from WGs more than you can imagin thus we arrive to Thailand LOS we want to take all the dissappointment and frustration away. I think was sad and angry because everyt single minute really counts for me I hope you understand what I mean.
The lady with me now for two days got sick I gave her medication iwas horney in the morning and she was tried we fucked for a while and then she said already cum twice I did not I told her no problem she spent the whole day sleeping and sleeping I did not get annoyed since she was nice and decent!
I think we all look for a good way of treatment we are not looking to these ladies as an objects but human beings I guess as you can all guess by now I was just not lucky I learned to be more careful ask the questions do the math before involving in any act with a freelancer.
I think this matter shold come to an end now I am enjoying the rest of my vacation by the way guys I will be in Bangkok starting next Thursday for a week. So if any of you will be there it will be nice to meet and have couple of beers and go hunt some Uzkis I want to taste the white meat now Spasso, CMS here I come.
Cheers
Kimo29,
See, my report and reponse was meant to be somewhat humorous and not a personal attack on you as I pointed out. But at the same time it was to draw a response out which it did and it got deleted because when you read my post it [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and set you off that you wrote what you felt. Personally it didn't take much!
See if your read and comprehended on top of the post " Stereotype and Generalization " you wouldn't have been so fired up and mad and you would have known that I have no idea or experience dealing with Mid-Eastern people and what the Koran really stands for... you got mad just like you got mad at the girl and responded exactly with your post.
See as you say! no matter where we come from, whatever religion, we all experience disappointment and frustration and Mid-Eastern people don't have a license on this and we all come to Thailand to enjoy ourselves and leave our troubles behind this is what others are telling you including myself.
So I hope we can all move on and allow you to enjoy the rest of your trip and maybe future trip. Don't let one bad experience ruin your view or enjoyment!
Enjoy! LBM
[QUOTE=Travel Lucid]I'm in the process of doing some research for a brief stop over in BKK.
I've seen Tamamomi or Tama-momi advertised, and would like to know more about it.
I know direct from Japanese it means "ball massage"...so I do get the general idea.
However, can someone tell me what to expect....really.
I was in Macau recently, and had what they called a thigh or groin massage at a few sauna's; done skilfully it is very nice. Just wondered if this was something similar?[/QUOTE]
You can get this at Orchid Massage in Soi 31 just along from the Euro hotel. Orchid has a website here: [url]http://www.paithailand.com/orchidmassage/eng/index.php[/url] where they claim that testicles massage is an ancient Thai practice borrowed by the Japanese. Not sure if that is true, but its great whoever invented it.
I'll be in BKK again in October and really looking forward to renewing my acquaintance with this delightful practice. Its addictive. Go to Orchid and make sure you order off the menu at reception. Testicles massage is 100 TBH or so as an extra on top of about 6 or 800 for the 90 mins or two hours.
Once you're in the room things start off with a standard oil massage session, then she asks you to flip over on your back, oils up and goes to work on your delicates. Outstanding. Really gets the jizz up. After a few minutes you are good and hard and she moves those hot and well-lubricated hands up the shaft, nice and slow, then pops the "you want special?" question. I asked for more balls. All the girls I had there did capped BJ and FJ at 1500 TBH.
Every session I had there was with a skilled professional and they need to be for such a delicate operation -- intensive training I imagine. The pictures on the website were genuine from memory. I remember having Fa -- tiny with nice tits.
[QUOTE=Kimo29]Ok I will redit my post Admin.[/QUOTE]
Listen Kimo.... I'll try this again... step back and read my post again... I kept saying it doesn't matter what nationality you are and I mentioned that if I am not reading your post correctly I apologized etc...
I won't sink to a low level and let you know who my mates are or are not and where they are from. I was stating simple facts that we must contend with. I have no ill will towards you, your original post did not come across sounding correct and I posted that but I was very tempered in my comments. If you took them as against you then I hope you brush it off as it wasn't meant that way.
As a man who has had the police called on them, it is always best to give up some little cash because if the police do come then it will cost you much more. Simple fact of life I learned the hard way.
Peace mate we are all after good times... maybe I'll run into you down in the lower soi's as I'm over that way.
Thank you LBM & Tansak TV for your inputs and understanding i really appreciate that:)
Today its raining like hell in Phuket it did not stop i will rest for today may be go for a nice sea food meal :) a nice lobster to recharge i think i have to restore my power for bangkok by the way i will be staying at the Majestic Grande so if any of you guys will be there lets meet it will be fun to chit chat and may be i get more of your knowldege i think a person will keep on learning until his death thats why i posted my report on the spot and sure i learned a lot from such incident.
By the way guys on the top my list is the infamous Tulip and Snow White but fellow mongers on the Tulip forum says it was not like it used to be :yeah i heard about the infamous Yok and her to die for body, Nestle, Nic etc to the end of the list who left Tulip now i think my options will be limited to new comer Cheri and Dao if i am not mistaken please confirm.
Tansak TV will call at the famous LL where most fellow mongers call to deliver their greetings to Gitto.
Waiting to hear from you mates:)
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...As a man who has had the police called on them, it is always best to give up some little cash because if the police do come then it will cost you much more. Simple fact of life I learned the hard way...[/QUOTE]
Sounds like an interesting story, Tansak.
Would you mind sharing it with us? :)
Snapped! somethings coming?
LBM
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Sounds like an interesting story, Tansak.
Would you mind sharing it with us? :)[/QUOTE]
Remind me as am wheels up to MNL then BKK in an hour... It was not a fun experience or story. Let's just say that as many of you know, I date girls that can hump and grind 10 times a day... and to do that they must be a little mentally off balance and I'm not totally sane all the time either....
And, I gotta think about this. Some members here know some of the story but not all of it and it's a past relationship, I was not in the best frame of mind at the time which is not an excuse. Let me kick it around a moment and decide how much to post about it. It could be a good lesson for some folks but it was private matters.
[QUOTE=Kimo29]Thank you LBM & Tansak TV for your inputs and understanding i really appreciate that:)
By the way guys on the top my list is the infamous Tulip and Snow White but fellow mongers on the Tulip forum says it was not like it used to be :yeah i heard about the infamous Yok and her to die for body, Nestle, Nic etc to the end of the list who left Tulip now i think my options will be limited to new comer Cheri and Dao if i am not mistaken please confirm.
Tansak TV will call at the famous LL where most fellow mongers call to deliver their greetings to Gitto.
Waiting to hear from you mates:)[/QUOTE]
Soi 11 is where I'm sleeping when I sleep (Soi Arabia almost :D :D ). But do visit / live on Soi 33 often.
Snow White I'm not sure is up to par, there is ONE girl there I know that I like and enjoy but I'm not saying it's bad but it is not Tulip. There are many MP's to go to.
Tulip is still fine for two shots or multiple shots, do not go by the posts here as to who is superstar or not, never do that, go look at the girls live and in person and pick who you are attracted to.
I will say this again don't let it brush you the wrong way, some nationalities do not have the best reputation for thai working girls (be it German, English, American, Oriental, Middle Eastern whatever), SO go see the line ups and pick who is smiling and facing you and such.
This is common sense advice for EVERYONE and has been repeated in the forums for years. DO NOT PICK FROM A BOOK of pictures or because someone posted a name on a web site, your chances of a better experience is if you pick from live girls and the ones that are smiling making good eye contact.
In other words... do not walk in and ask for Cheri or Dao or such... Walk in and see a line up. If there are few girls or no good eye contact move and come back another day / time. Do not even look at the book or ask who is this girl or that girl.
My POV...
Is Nice gone too from Tulip?
LBM
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Remind me as am wheels up to MNL then BKK in an hour... It was not a fun experience or story. Let's just say that as many of you know, I date girls that can hump and grind 10 times a day... and to do that they must be a little mentally off balance and I'm not totally sane all the time either....
And, I gotta think about this. Some members here know some of the story but not all of it and it's a past relationship, I was not in the best frame of mind at the time which is not an excuse. Let me kick it around a moment and decide how much to post about it. It could be a good lesson for some folks but it was private matters.[/QUOTE]
Hummm ... sounds like it might be similar to my own never to be forgotten honeymoon in Hell experience.
Perhaps better left unsaid ...
Tansak TV
Thank you very much dude for your useful inputs.
Hey if you dont mind and free can we meet for a beer? my account. It will be a real pleasure to meet you!
If so PM your cell phone number and will call you once i arrive to Bangkok.
Peace Mate
Hello guys,
I plane to go to Pattaya or Phuket in the autumn. Would somone be so greatful and help me?
1) What is the wether in October and November in Phuket and Pattaya.
Heard that it may still rain a lot in October. I would like to sunbath a lot during daytime. Is the wether in October so bad for laying on the beach and is it much better in November?
2) Is there a posibility for a 30 years old european guy to have some realtion with a straight girl that is not a part of erotic buisness? Some girl that work in the shop or restaurant instead of being a bar girl or freelancer? I don'y minde paying for dinners, expences, gifts etc... Do such straight girl go after work to some discos etc... ?
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Adamus]
2) Is there a posibility for a 30 years old european guy to have some realtion with a straight girl that is not a part of erotic buisness? Some girl that work in the shop or restaurant instead of being a bar girl or freelancer? I don'y minde paying for dinners, expences, gifts etc... Do such straight girl go after work to some discos etc... ?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Sure, it's pretty easy if you speak Thai, but you probably won't get any girl that is super sexy. Most of the good stuff is either working(p4p) or taken by a Thai guy who has money.
Also, most of these "straight girls" understand that foreigners have money and somewhere down the road they will try and get it.
[QUOTE=Adamus]Hello guys,
I plane to go to Pattaya or Phuket in the autumn. Would somone be so greatful and help me?
1) What is the wether in October and November in Phuket and Pattaya.
Heard that it may still rain a lot in October. I would like to sunbath a lot during daytime. Is the wether in October so bad for laying on the beach and is it much better in November?
2) Is there a posibility for a 30 years old european guy to have some realtion with a straight girl that is not a part of erotic buisness? Some girl that work in the shop or restaurant instead of being a bar girl or freelancer? I don'y minde paying for dinners, expences, gifts etc... Do such straight girl go after work to some discos etc... ?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]1. October can be beautiful in Phuket. This year, however, the rains have arrived late. Honestly though, I'm really not sure at all what that means weather wise for next month. If you plan to stay a few days you are sure to get some strong sun at some point. November is usually very nice, especially later in the month.
2. It's like anywhere, if you are good looking, have a winning smile, a good sense of humor, are not shy, AND know what girls like, you can score normal chicks here regularly. But, honestly, there are a few criteria that make the possibility of making friends with a cute chick that much more plausible: Stay around for a while, make your kindness known & clear intentions visible, learn to speak some Thai, and make sure that you really want into this 'normal' non P4P girl idea of yours. (In Thailand, be very very careful of what you wish for.).
[QUOTE=Adamus]Hello guys,
I plane to go to Pattaya or Phuket in the autumn. Would somone be so greatful and help me?
1) What is the wether in October and November in Phuket and Pattaya.
Heard that it may still rain a lot in October. I would like to sunbath a lot during daytime. Is the wether in October so bad for laying on the beach and is it much better in November?
2) Is there a posibility for a 30 years old european guy to have some realtion with a straight girl that is not a part of erotic buisness? Some girl that work in the shop or restaurant instead of being a bar girl or freelancer? I don'y minde paying for dinners, expences, gifts etc... Do such straight girl go after work to some discos etc... ?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
1. Check the Weather Channel on the net.
2. Possible if you stay long enough.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV].........
I will say this again don't let it brush you the wrong way, [b]some nationalities do not have the best reputation for thai working girls (be it German, English, American, Oriental, Middle Eastern whatever)[/b], SO go see the line ups and pick who is smiling and facing you and such. ........
[/QUOTE]
Not much left .....
Thank You for all replays.
1) I asked about the wether as there is a funny thing with wether webistes. Almost every one of them have a little bit different info about climate in particular months. So there is always good to ask common visitors or locals about real sitution.
2) I know that it may sound crazy to stay with one girl all the time in Thailand. I was thinking rather about some guide-friend girl for spending time on the beach, eating meals, some joyrides etc. In the evenings I will surelly try few.
Adamus,
The last thing you need to do is worry about the weather. From my experience October thru December has produce some of the best weather. Sure it rains but it's not going to stop you from having fun! The only raincoat you need is for the little head!
LBM
[QUOTE=Adamus]Thank You for all replays.
1) I asked about the wether as there is a funny thing with wether webistes. Almost every one of them have a little bit different info about climate in particular months. So there is always good to ask common visitors or locals about real sitution.
[/QUOTE]
If you take a look at Singapore weather you will see thunderstorms about 340 days per year. That is true from 5 to 6pm everyday but the rest of the day is pure sunshine.Almost.
[QUOTE=El Greco]If you take a look at Singapore weather you will see thunderstorms about 340 days per year. That is true from 5 to 6pm everyday but the rest of the day is pure sunshine.Almost.[/QUOTE]
That is typical of the tropical weather, late afternoon heavy shower. Maybe 10 minutes, maybe 30, maybe just limited to YOUR square kilometer. Same all over Thailand, Malaysia, S'pore etc You will see wearther forecasts indicating "shower" or "thunderstorm" every single day of the-7 day forecast, but you might not get a single drop if you are at the right place at the right time:)
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Moderator,
I would appreciate a reason as to why my comments were deleted from this thread? Since I don't believe that it fell in line with breaking any rules?
All post after T.T. 9/4/09 were deleted!
LBM[/QUOTE]
LBM,
Probably as good a place as any to post this response but this link explains why those reports were deleted. Read the text in red at the bottom of the page.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=393001&postcount=1[/url]
run mann,
personally if this was the reason for the deletion then as i noted in the discussion about oth, he should re-examine some of his rules since they are neither consistent nor applied consistently. saying it is the rule doesn't mean that the problem doesn't exist. applying a rule so that it might create a effective discussion but allows a report that is filled with hate and racism and delete the comments of posters that are disgusted with such use of certain words only verify and show how stupid the applicator is turning into.
a effective discussion is allowing both sides to air their opinions and not simply applying a general rule to stop the discussion. soon i'll be hearing again how free speech applies to speaking against the government and that it is a private site. it's a shame that to have a effective discussion racism has been chosen to be on top of the list. maybe the moderator is in the same lead as the departed but refuses to face the truth by applying a rule that really doesn't apply in this particular case. all i'm saying is if the departed is allowed to make a report that generally bait a good or bad responds and the responds is short " a big racist " how is that not effective? and take a good look and read in every thread everything is a discussion! so don't pick and choose what you want to delete! there is a time and place for your rule this isn't one of them!
lbm
I booked the Dynasty Grande with Agoda and my credit card company charged a 3% fee. Anyone else experience this? I haven't had this happen before. Anyone else get a refund from Agoda?
I mean the 3% isn't gonna break me, but it's irritating nontheless.
[quote=littlebigman]run mann,
personally if this was the reason for the deletion then as i noted in the discussion about oth, he should re-examine some of his rules since they are neither consistent nor applied consistently. saying it is the rule doesn't mean that the problem doesn't exist. applying a rule so that it might create a effective discussion but allows a report that is filled with hate and racism and delete the comments of posters that are disgusted with such use of certain words only verify and show how stupid the applicator is turning into.
a effective discussion is allowing both sides to air their opinions and not simply applying a general rule to stop the discussion. soon i'll be hearing again how free speech applies to speaking against the government and that it is a private site. it's a shame that to have a effective discussion racism has been chosen to be on top of the list. maybe the moderator is in the same lead as the departed but refuses to face the truth by applying a rule that really doesn't apply in this particular case. all i'm saying is if the departed is allowed to make a report that generally bait a good or bad responds and the responds is short " a big racist " how is that not effective? and take a good look and read in every thread everything is a discussion! so don't pick and choose what you want to delete! there is a time and place for your rule this isn't one of them!
lbm[/quote]
lbm the reports on the "links to reports of distinction" are existing somewhere else in th same country forum. so that's the most appropriate place where you want to debate, criticise, agree with a report.
jackson clearly wants to keep the links to reports of distinction free of debate (of any kind).
just go in the source forum and you can comment:)
Bionicman,
I appreciate your imput and I generally understand the moderator reasons but I made a comment only after another poster brought the topic to the " Reports of Distinction " I thereafter made a short comment which is done pretty much by everyone that is a member on every other thread. Look at the number of threads we have and see if it has stopped anyone from commenting endlessly on a subject that started in one particular thread that in the end should have been moved to another.
If the thread Reports of Distinction are only to bring other post from other threads like poster T.T. did with The Departed post and not allow for a comments or discussion then the " add a report " button should be remove!
LBM
Off the topic but I was wondering if anyone know where I can purchase the Thai National Football Jersey. Seen a bunch of knock offs but rather pay for quality.
Thanks
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Bionicman,
.....
If the thread Reports of Distinction are only to bring other post from other threads like poster T.T. did with The Departed post and not allow for a comments or discussion then the " add a report " button should be remove!
...
LBM[/QUOTE]
You make a good point on this!
Probably a "bug" (or better call it "weakness") of the forum software that does not discern on "RoD" and shows the same template on each and everything
Maybe a "warning" on the header of the RoD page (as it is on 'moderated forums') will do, added to moderated status of the RoD pages, where the moderations mean = no publication.
A bit complicate, I admit...
But I am sure we are not going to fight, me and you, on this... little argument:)
[QUOTE=Redfield10]I booked the Dynasty Grande with Agoda and my credit card company charged a 3% fee. Anyone else experience this? I haven't had this happen before. Anyone else get a refund from Agoda?
I mean the 3% isn't gonna break me, but it's irritating nontheless.[/QUOTE]
Well..they did they service: guarantee or give money to someone else. If you did not take those services (= canceled)...somehow your problem.
Main fact, though, I think is that I observed in Thai lots of establishements add the CC fee on top of their prices (to discourage use of CC as they prefer cash, or because they want you to pay for the privilege of using the CC, not them!)
So probably the vendor has credited its money, not the cc one...
just a thought...not "my law"
Using reservation sites like Agoda, Sawadee, etc. should be avoided. Using the official hotel reservation website saves on these booking fees, avoids upfront payment most times, and allows cancellation without loss of the 1st night reservation fee. Hotel websites are not easily located but well worth the extra effort, as hotel sites have alot more flexibility.
[QUOTE=Redfield10]I booked the Dynasty Grande with Agoda and my credit card company charged a 3% fee. Anyone else experience this? I haven't had this happen before. Anyone else get a refund from Agoda?
I mean the 3% isn't gonna break me, but it's irritating nontheless.[/QUOTE]
This fee is likely coming from your credit card company, not from Agoda. Many US credit cards will charge a 3% fee for foreign transactions no matter what they are for. Smaller fees are out there, but they're probably getting harder to find since numerous credit card issuers are bumping up fees to make up their losses in this economy.
[QUOTE=Redfield10]I booked the Dynasty Grande with Agoda and my credit card company charged a 3% fee. Anyone else experience this? I haven't had this happen before. Anyone else get a refund from Agoda?
I mean the 3% isn't gonna break me, but it's irritating nontheless.[/QUOTE]I used Agoda to book, and my credit card company DID NOT charge a fee. In fact, Agoda was less expensive that the hotel site, as I checked. You may want to ask your credit card to waive its fee if you have a good FICA score and can go elsewhere.
Actually, sites such as Agoda and asiatravel are usually cheaper than the hotel site...
The thing that pissed me off about the Agoda thing is that it states right on the Q&A that they will provide a refund if the credit card charges a fee and won't refund it.
So, they are violating their own rules.
QUOTE=Westsider]Using reservation sites like Agoda, Sawadee, etc. should be avoided. Using the official hotel reservation website saves on these booking fees, avoids upfront payment most times, and allows cancellation without loss of the 1st night reservation fee. Hotel websites are not easily located but well worth the extra effort, as hotel sites have alot more flexibility.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Professor 1]I used Agoda to book, and my credit card company DID NOT charge a fee. In fact, Agoda was less expensive that the hotel site, as I checked. You may want to ask your credit card to waive its fee if you have a good FICA score and can go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
It's an acronym for the company that developed the rating system...Fair, Isaac and Company.
[url]http://www.fico.com/en/Pages/default.aspx[/url]
[QUOTE=Mauldid]Off the topic but I was wondering if anyone know where I can purchase the Thai National Football Jersey. Seen a bunch of knock offs but rather pay for quality.
Thanks[/QUOTE]just go near the national stadium, it s close to mbk, almost dozens of shops are located in the block opposite the tesco supercenter, some shops sold copy, some sold original.
Some shop have football jersey from South American team, not available in others place than here
Good luck
[QUOTE=Channy]just go near the national stadium, it s close to mbk, almost dozens of shops are located in the block opposite the tesco supercenter, some shops sold copy, some sold original.
Some shop have football jersey from South American team, not available in others place than here
Good luck[/QUOTE]
This is a great tip. I have used these shops to buy team uniforms, boxing equipment and other sports items....at greatly reduced prices. Stores in other areas use these guys to get the product....then just add to the price to you. This is the place to go.
[QUOTE=Redfield10]I booked the Dynasty Grande with Agoda and my credit card company charged a 3% fee. Anyone else experience this? I haven't had this happen before. Anyone else get a refund from Agoda?
I mean the 3% isn't gonna break me, but it's irritating nontheless.[/QUOTE]
It's the cc fee for an international transaction. The Agoda fee is clearly stated on the invoice. Every international transaction has a fee of at least 1%....and usually is 2%.....the 3% is a bit much....but probably in your contract with your cc company.
[QUOTE=The Pro]Kimo.
Seems you agreed 2000 baht for 2 (1000 each) and when you took just one she wanted 1500 baht.
This is standard stuff, Thai girls know many farang are weak willed twats and its why they will ask for "taxi money", demand tips for massage even when its all in pricing and all the other shit.
Its not called the "LOS" for nothing (thats the Land Of Smiles).
When dealing with Thai's be Thai.
Pay her 1000 baht as agreed and smile.
She gets upset and starts being crazy, smile at her and politely say thats the agreed amount and thats all you are getting, goodbye.
And smile. And smile again, and when she shouts then smile and keep asking her politely to leave, and smile.
Never touch them, never get angry, never get scared. Just smile and ask them to leave and keep saying goodbye......in a calm, gentle and polite voice and remember, keep smiling :)
Works everytime, once they realise they cannot wind you up with fear and aggression then they will give up. If they sense you are angry or scared they will go for the kill to get their extra money.[/QUOTE]
Beautiful post!!!!!....remember....KEEP SMILING....it works.....the frustrations they give you are contagious!!
Screening has been moved up so you go through screening before you get to the duty free area, this is only nice so that now you can take drinks and food to your gate area. In the club room now and heading out for a while and was surprised to see the change as it wasn't reported yet.
Just will be nice so that I can swipe some drinks and take to the gate to await boarding.
Yes, but this what their web site says and they are telling me they won't do it which is unacceptable business practice.
What do I do if my credit card shows a slightly different charge than what is shown on my receipt?
The difference is a fee your bank has imposed on the transaction. The global financial crisis, in combination with recent legislation in the US has put significant pressure on the profitability of the banking and credit card industries. As a consequence, many banks have drastically increased the fees associated with international transactions in an attempt to recoup losses in other areas. This dubious business practice is unfortunately completely out of our control.
If this happens to you, please let us know and we will do everything we can to help you recoup these fees from your bank. We know how irritating it is to feel like you got cheated out of something, even if the amount is small, and are absolutely committed to ensuring that you pay exactly is shown on the screen and not a single cent more.
Should your bank insist on squeezing every last cent out of you, we will refund you the difference (and recommend an alternative bank!).
[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]It's the cc fee for an international transaction. The Agoda fee is clearly stated on the invoice. Every international transaction has a fee of at least 1%....and usually is 2%.....the 3% is a bit much....but probably in your contract with your cc company.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Is Nice gone too from Tulip?[/QUOTE]No. She asked me to tell you all that she is most definitely still there and looking forward to meeting you (although not at the same time...)
I'm becoming an expert at buying generic viagra and cialis, so thought I'd share some prices with you.
In the UK, certain branches of Boots sell 4 x 50mg Viagra for £50. £12 ea.
You can get a private prescription from your doctor and get Viagra for about £25 from a pharmacist. £6 ea.
Generic viagra can be bought on-line for about £2 for a 100mg pill.
For bulk orders (say 100) this goes down to £1 per pill.
In Bangkok and Pattaya it's about 400Bht for 4 pills. About £2 ea.
In Mumbai last week I bought both generic cialis and viagra for about Rs120 for 4 pills. About 40p each. Same brands as in BKK.
I was so overwhelmed that I had to go to a second pharmacist for a repeat subscription. I now have a carrier bag full of the stuff. Now just need to find a way to use it usefully. :)
[QUOTE=Mouse1]I'm becoming an expert at buying generic viagra and cialis, so thought I'd share some prices with you.
In the UK, certain branches of Boots sell 4 x 50mg Viagra for £50. £12 ea.
You can get a private prescription from your doctor and get Viagra for about £25 from a pharmacist. £6 ea.
Generic viagra can be bought on-line for about £2 for a 100mg pill.
For bulk orders (say 100) this goes down to £1 per pill.
In Bangkok and Pattaya it's about 400Bht for 4 pills. About £2 ea.
In Mumbai last week I bought both generic cialis and viagra for about Rs120 for 4 pills. About 40p each. Same brands as in BKK.
I was so overwhelmed that I had to go to a second pharmacist for a repeat subscription. I now have a carrier bag full of the stuff. Now just need to find a way to use it usefully. :)[/QUOTE]
Yes this is true, all items come from India and if you ever run out I can help you (or others) out. Definitely you don't need to purchase in UK or online high prices or such. It's amazing but I had friends asking me to bring in Vitamins for them as the costs in BKK and other places are grossly inflated. I am amazed at what some folks are reporting that they pay.
To use them I suggest you visit BKK / Pattaya / Shanghai / Manila for about two weeks each location. I'm sure I'd run into you during one of those stays...
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]To use them I suggest you visit BKK / Pattaya / Shanghai / Manila for about two weeks each location. I'm sure I'd run into you during one of those stays...[/QUOTE]My current itinerary reads India / Nepal / Korea / Hong Kong / Macau / Singapore / Japan and finally Thailand...
As I have just written elsewhere, I have lost interest (if I ever had it) in having sex with bored or unfriendly strangers, or unattractive girls, which rules out most of those countries. Still have high hopes for Hong Kong (and Macau), no worries about Singapore, and of course there is always LOS :)
[Quote=Mouse1]My current itinerary reads India / Nepal / Korea / Hong Kong / Macau / Singapore / Japan and finally Thailand.[/QUOTE]yuck. You keep your itinerary and I'll stick with my itineraries. For the most part I am Oceania, Philippines, Thailand, China, and repeat (with some side trips to other places in there usually).
But in Korea you can cross to China easy and quickly you do know that. Often when I am there we cross over for a little P4P entertainment, but I have a valid multi entry VISA for China.
Any problem with buying some Cialis in Bkk and taking it to HK or Macau without a perscription?
Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=Mouse1]I'm becoming an expert at buying generic viagra and cialis, so thought I'd share some prices with you.
In the UK, certain branches of Boots sell 4 x 50mg Viagra for £50. £12 ea.
You can get a private prescription from your doctor and get Viagra for about £25 from a pharmacist. £6 ea.
Generic viagra can be bought on-line for about £2 for a 100mg pill.
For bulk orders (say 100) this goes down to £1 per pill.
In Bangkok and Pattaya it's about 400Bht for 4 pills. About £2 ea.
In Mumbai last week I bought both generic cialis and viagra for about Rs120 for 4 pills. About 40p each. Same brands as in BKK.
I was so overwhelmed that I had to go to a second pharmacist for a repeat subscription. I now have a carrier bag full of the stuff. Now just need to find a way to use it usefully. :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kimo29]Thank you LBM & Tansak TV for your inputs and understanding i really appreciate that:)
Waiting to hear from you mates:)[/QUOTE]
Hey Kimo where you been?? Been too damn quiet no fight in the fight club lately... Am getting bored... But I was thinking of you so I brought you a present from Pattaya just for you...
Seriously it was good to talk to you wish you well... Peace...
[QUOTE=Redfield10]Any problem with buying some Cialis in Bkk and taking it to HK or Macau without a perscription?Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]As I say, I have a kilo of viagra and cialis in my bag and I'm heading to HK tomorrow, so I'll let you know. Never crossed my mind that there would be a problem. These items are not counterfeit, they are made legitimately in India by major pharma companies. I don't don't the intellectual property situation in HK, so theoretically there could be an issue. But they're tucked away in my bag and I just don't think it will be of the slightest interest to customs even if I was searched and they found it...
Now excuse me as I have to go RTF HK F... India and Korea were a bust so I have a lot of catching up to do...
[QUOTE=Mouse1]As I say, I have a kilo of viagra and cialis in my bag and I'm heading to HK tomorrow, so I'll let you know. Never crossed my mind that there would be a problem. These items are not counterfeit, they are made legitimately in India by major pharma companies. I don't don't the intellectual property situation in HK, so theoretically there could be an issue. But they're tucked away in my bag and I just don't think it will be of the slightest interest to customs even if I was searched and they found it...
Now excuse me as I have to go RTF HK F... India and Korea were a bust so I have a lot of catching up to do...[/QUOTE]
Mouse, customs are there to block illegal imports, smuggling of various products and to cash excise & duties on behalf of the government.
Maybe they might have something to say if you bring ONE kg of medicines of any kind.
Due to the nature of the drug you bring in, they will not believe you need so much for personal use as you take 10 tablets a day...
It is of course all up to you to do what you want, but if we do not read from you in the near future, we'll know why:))
[QUOTE=Mouse1]As I say, I have a kilo of viagra and cialis in my bag and I'm heading to HK tomorrow, so I'll let you know. Never crossed my mind that there would be a problem. These items are not counterfeit, they are made legitimately in India by major pharma companies. I don't don't the intellectual property situation in HK, so theoretically there could be an issue. But they're tucked away in my bag and I just don't think it will be of the slightest interest to customs even if I was searched and they found it...
Now excuse me as I have to go RTF HK F... India and Korea were a bust so I have a lot of catching up to do...[/QUOTE]
You've got a lot more to worry about than intellectual property rights in Hong Kong. Viagra, cialis etc are prescription drugs in Hong Kong and possession - yes even simple possession of such without a prescription is a crime.
We had a famous case a few years back when one of the scions of a prominent - and connected - HKG family was arrested for having on his possession 1 - yes ONE - viagra pill without a prescrfiption. Convicted too by the way!!
good ruck amigo
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Hey Kimo where you been?? Been too damn quiet no fight in the fight club lately... Am getting bored... But I was thinking of you so I brought you a present from Pattaya just for you...
Seriously it was good to talk to you wish you well... Peace...[/QUOTE]
He's back in the land of feminism, islamism and dry pussy... Egypt.
Baby, I love you! For reals.
MOUSE: "But they're tucked away in my bag and I just don't think it will be of the slightest interest to customs even if I was searched and they found it..."
Personal experience:: customs definately care about not having a prescription in some countrys. Even though I was let go with a warning they were very serious and it was touch and go for a while and up to who ever the supervisor was at that time, at that airport, in that country. released with a stern warning for viagra with no prescrip.
It used to be no problem 3-4 years ago but now they are cracking down on it???
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]You've got a lot more to worry about than intellectual property rights in Hong Kong. Viagra, cialis etc are prescription drugs in Hong Kong and possession - yes even simple possession of such without a prescription is a crime.
We had a famous case a few years back when one of the scions of a prominent - and connected - HKG family was arrested for having on his possession 1 - yes ONE - viagra pill without a prescrfiption. Convicted too by the way!!
good ruck amigo
SEAJ[/QUOTE]OK, I stand corrected. I still think you'd be pretty unlucky to be picked up, but I guess it's possible. I can't see any reports on the web about this being a crime, apart from the crime of re-exporting grey market drugs (ie IP issues), but I'll take your word for it.
By the way, I exaggerated about the 1kg of viagra and cialis, but I have about 80 tablets, and they certainly are for my personal use... :)
[QUOTE=Mouse1]OK, I stand corrected. I still think you'd be pretty unlucky to be picked up, but I guess it's possible. I can't see any reports on the web about this being a crime, apart from the crime of re-exporting grey market drugs (ie IP issues), but I'll take your word for it.
By the way, I exaggerated about the 1kg of viagra and cialis, but I have about 80 tablets, and they certainly are for my personal use... :)[/QUOTE]
I think you are mistaking people providing advice and 'flaming'. In most modern legal systems possession of prescription medication without a prescription is illegal. Whether they enforce the laws or not has no bearing on it being criminal. You may or may not get lucky and not be prosecuted. On this board we regularly discuss criminal acts and ignore the fact that it is a criminal act. That can give us a false sense that we can flout all laws. In some countries we can. In some we cannot. If I show up to Australia and they find I didn't declare some prescription drug I will be in big trouble. If i declare it they ask if I have just enough for my use while traveling. If I answer yes then they send me on my way. If they found that I have a kilo of it I don't want to think of what they'd be putting me through. What you are doing simply seems silly to many of us as the risk/reward is to seep for most of us. Good luck on your travels and I think we are all waiting to hear how things turn out.
[QUOTE=Pita123]I think you are mistaking people providing advice and 'flaming'.[/QUOTE]Don't get all pompous about it. I just wrote the jokey heading to avoid 20 posts saying 'Why are you writing about this on a Thailand forum?', but perhaps using slightly less pleasant terminology...[QUOTE=Pita123]In most modern legal systems possession of prescription medication without a prescription is illegal. Whether they enforce the laws or not has no bearing on it being criminal. You may or may not get lucky and not be prosecuted. On this board we regularly discuss criminal acts and ignore the fact that it is a criminal act. That can give us a false sense that we can flout all laws. In some countries we can. In some we cannot. If I show up to Australia and they find I didn't declare some prescription drug I will be in big trouble. If i declare it they ask if I have just enough for my use while traveling. If I answer yes then they send me on my way. [/QUOTE]Well, I think I answered that. For what it's worth I suffer from occasional gout, so I carry prescription medicine around with me, just in case. I have made over a 100 trips with it and it never crossed my mind that it was illegal. OK, it probably is. It is a risk that I will continue to take... Now I feel like some international drug smuggler... :([QUOTE=Pita123]If they found that I have a kilo of it I don't want to think of what they'd be putting me through. What you are doing simply seems silly to many of us as the risk/reward is to seep for most of us. Good luck on your travels and I think we are all waiting to hear how things turn out.[/QUOTE]Oh dear, I did say the kilo remark was a joke :(. From my figures 1 kilo would be £40,000's worth, so yes, I would expect to be prosecuted and fined, if not slung in jail.
Anyway, we all have our risk thresholds, and frankly carrying a few viagra in my suitcase is way way down on my scale of things. Live life on the edge, take a gamble, do one dangerous thing every day... :)
Anyone have the youtube links to the Cop show in Thailand? Apparently, they have police from all over the world working the red light disticts in Thailand and they tape all the encounters. Appreciate it!
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Anyway, we all have our risk thresholds, and frankly carrying a few viagra in my suitcase is way way down on my scale of things. Live life on the edge, take a gamble, do one dangerous thing every day... :)[/QUOTE]Today I crossed the street ALTHOUGH THE LIGHTS WERE ON RED! If that's not the rock'n'roll lifestyle, I don't know what is... Live fast and die young (I said, many years ago). :)
[QUOTE=Bravo]Anyone have the youtube links to the Cop show in Thailand? Apparently, they have police from all over the world working the red light disticts in Thailand and they tape all the encounters. Appreciate it![/QUOTE]
Here you go. Posted by Run Mann
Episode 1
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=926811&postcount=3147[/url]
Episode 2.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=929436&postcount=3224[/url]
Anyone played any of the courses in the BKK area? If so, which are best and how would you compare them to courses in the US.
Thanks,
RJSSS212
I am headed to Thailand in December. I see the exchange rate on line is around 33 to $1. Is the rate there about the same or is the street rate better?
Saludos from Cartagena,
Martin
[QUOTE=El Vagabundo]I am headed to Thailand in December. I see the exchange rate on line is around 33 to $1. Is the rate there about the same or is the street rate better?
Saludos from Cartagena,
Martin[/QUOTE]Usually you'll get a few more cents in private cambios than the banks but there are not so many nowdays. I don't bother since there are bank cambios in every corner. Bring unspoiled 50s or 100s only for the best rate. Lower rate for the rest of them.
You can also use ATM's. There are all over the place.
By the way I exchanged euros today at 48,78875. Dollar was 33,09.
Suerte
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Anyone played any of the courses in the BKK area? If so, which are best and how would you compare them to courses in the US.[/quote]Rjsss212,
The courses around BKK is expensive and not that good.
Go to Phuket.
The courses there are cheap.
Most are ocean view and nice.
The cost is around 40 USD with golf cart.
Fast Eddie 48
There are some in BKK that are good, the major problem is getting to them as traffic is so bad. I go to Pattaya, 140km south, on the bay of Thailand. There are about 25 championship courses within 40 km radius. Not all spectacular but many are as good as you will find anywhere. All are within 45 or so minutes of central Pattaya. Fabian at Thi ger golf is great, they go in vans form his store to about 3 different courses each day, sign up the day before.
His website is thigerlinegolf.com. He is a good operator and will not let you down. Courses I strongly suggest are St Andrews 2000, Leam Chebong, Khaokheow and almost right in town Phoenix. Feel free to ask any questions.
Cactus J
[QUOTE=The Pro]There is a "Thailand Politics" thread in the Expat section.
PLEASE USE IT.[/QUOTE]Look, it's very easy to make condescending remarks, but this series of exchanges started with a report about the King's ill-health and naturally gravitated to other points, in the way conversations sometimes do. I haven't excessively prolonged the discussion, and if I wanted to have a big debate I would hold it in the suggested thread. But sometimes you just have to go with the conversational flow, and I'm sure you can skip over a few posts that don't interest you. Let's not be too anal about this; we really don't want too many forum police :)
I see the next few posts are about golf course, exchange rates and f***ing ATMs again. Don't interest me so I don't read 'em.
Thanks, I’m familiar with the Phuket courses but I’m staying in BKK.
The only BKK track I’ve seen is the one around the Horse/Dog track/Soccer field that can be seen from the Skytrain, maybe the Royal Thai Golf Club or something but doesn’t look like much. Anyone know of something else descent? (traffic not withstanding)
Thanks,
RJSSS212
Anyone have any experience with getting dentistry in Thailand? I lost a tooth several years ago and was thinking I might get an implant. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks
[QUOTE=Mimonger]Anyone have any experience with getting dentistry in Thailand? I lost a tooth several years ago and was thinking I might get an implant. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks[/QUOTE]
Dentists are like FLs, they are all over Thailand and cheap and efficient. However, I've never use one in Bangkok. I like the informal feel of Pattaya Dentists where you can walk in and get same day or next day service from many of them.
[url]http://www.pattayadentist.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.bangkokdentalcenter.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Mimonger]Anyone have any experience with getting dentistry in Thailand? I lost a tooth several years ago and was thinking I might get an implant. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks[/QUOTE]Search for Dental White. I have posted about them many times to answer peoples questions like this. If not then PM me and I'll fill you on about them over on Suk Soi 22.
[QUOTE=Mimonger]Anyone have any experience with getting dentistry in Thailand? I lost a tooth several years ago and was thinking I might get an implant. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks[/QUOTE]I find these one of the best.
[url]http://www.bangkoksmiledental.com/[/url]
They have one clinic on Sukhumvit Soi 21, not far away from Soi Cowboy.
Another one is at Ploenchit.
[blue]Greetings Everyone,
I moved a number of posts regarding Thailand Politics to the existing thread titled "Thailand Politics".
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2526[/url]
Members are welcome to continue their discussion of Thailand Politics there.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
[url]http://www.airasia.com/site/th/en/home.jsp[/url]
Air Asia is having a 48 hrs 20% off sale on all seats, destinations and flights.
Can someone tell me what frequency Thailand uses on their cellphone? Just trying to find out if the phone I purchased to use in China will work in Thailand.
[QUOTE=El Greco][url]http://www.airasia.com/site/th/en/home.jsp[/url]
Air Asia is having a 48 hrs 20% off sale on all seats, destinations and flights.[/QUOTE]
Gotta love Air Asia....you get what you pay for (basically a seat and a small one at that) but Melbourne - Bkk return for AUD$220, you cant complain.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Can someone tell me what frequency Thailand uses on their cellphone? Just trying to find out if the phone I purchased to use in China will work in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
GSM 1800 is probably the most common frequency in Thailand (at least 3 carriers), but GSM 900 and GSM 1900 are available too (at least 1 carrier each).
[url]http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_th.shtml[/url]
[QUOTE=Goyave]GSM 1800 is probably the most common frequency in Thailand (at least 3 carriers), but GSM 900 and GSM 1900 are available too (at least 1 carrier each).
[url]http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_th.shtml[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the information.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Can someone tell me what frequency Thailand uses on their cellphone? Just trying to find out if the phone I purchased to use in China will work in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
Tri band will work most places. However, best is to buy a quad band phone. Then it will work everywhere.
[QUOTE=Sainter21]have to love Air Asia. You get what you pay for (basically a seat and a small one at that) but Melbourne. BKK return for AUD$220, you can't complain.[/QUOTE]I have travelled on possibly 50 international and domestic flights with Air Asia. Only once has one of these flights been late. Always good in my opinion.
Let it be known that GSB has jumped on the Thai bank bandwagon and now charges 150 bt for ATM withdrawals on a foreign card. Started on 02.October.
ATM,
For the past month Goverment Bank (Pink Machines) have been reconfiguring their computers and ATM, to make the charge official 150 Baht for Foreign ATM cards. This last month you put in your Foreign ATM card and after a few seconds especially after you push " English " seconds later the response is that there is a problem. I went to over 6 ATM's throughout Pattaya and they came up with all the same response. Now as stated they are all working if you agree on the 150 baht.
The only Bank now that I know is AEON, that isn't charging is the Japanese owned. And most have been removed or not working throughout Pattaya except the main branch in Lotus, North Pattaya!
Now one has to consider this when they use the ATM'S, is along with the 150 Baht charge is what is the rate they are giving you. Here is what I found!
Using this general example in USD currency! Lets say the official rate is 33.50 Today!
Bank of Bangkok: ATM rate given is 32.45
Siam Commericail: ATM rate given is 32.42
Bank of Ayuthya: ATM rate given is 32.33
Govenment Bank: ATM rate given is 33.35
I have found although all the above banks are charging now the 150 Baht the Government Bank is giving the best rate!
Took out money from AEON two weeks ago at Lotus, no charge! The day exchange rate was something like 33.65, and they gave me 33.42!
Some are reporting that some of the above might not be charging ( Except AEON ) but that depends on where the card comes from.....
Good luck, LBM
Can anyone advise on the best way to get to kamphaeng phet from BKK. Seems like there is no airport in the region
[QUOTE=Bearsk]Can anyone advise on the best way to get to kamphaeng phet from BKK. Seems like there is no airport in the region[/QUOTE]there is no many solution to go.
By bus mochit bus station
Make a deal with a driver or taxi, I went there once for 3000 baht one way with taxi. Look for a car that use gaz and not only gazoline, they need to feel theier car for about 800 return to kamphaeng phet. So they have a good profit even by 2500 baht. Go early morning 5am so taxi can come back same day. No traffic.
[QUOTE=Bearsk]Can anyone advise on the best way to get to kamphaeng phet from BKK. Seems like there is no airport in the region[/QUOTE]
Might be wrong but isn't this place near Sukhothai, and isn't there a landing strip there?
LBM
Thanks LBM and Jeff46
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Might be wrong but isn't this place near Sukhothai, and isn't there a landing strip there?
LBM[/QUOTE]
The forum on Thai women has moved so am posting this here.
A few months back, I invited a Thai lady (shes 25, has kid and a husband who doesn't live in Thailand) to come stay with me for a weekend. I was happy to pay for her ticket from her town to BKK then to my city, but she insisted to go half. I didn't argue. We had a fun weekend but she was too slim (model slim and 5ft 6 tall, ) for my tastes, and was a bit clingy.
Anyways weve chatted since then and shees asked if she could come back to my city again. Shes stated she would pay hotel and airfare, she just wants to see me. Well I've been travelling so haven't been able to do it.
Today I get email saying she would love to see me, but she knows I'm busy. So she would pay my airfare if I would go to Phuket on a one day round trip to see her. Wow. Here I am, a mid 50's guy getting such an invite. Money isn't an issue for me, but nice to be treated as such. Sweet girl!
Is there a pedestrian flyover from the northeast side of Lumpini Park to somewhere around the Tobacco Monopoly at the end of Suk. Soi 2?
What's the deal with this area? I read once it was being developed into a park, but I can't really find much about it.
I have a question for all experienced punters: Given what we read in the news reports from the hospital, and the rumors which fly, just how long do you think the entertainment venues will have to close when [i]that dreaded day[/i] comes?
I hazarded the guess of three months in a rl conversation recently, with the observation that it might be long enough to kill them (not many bars and nightspots can survive three months revenue free). Of course on the other hand there might be a civil war so mere closure might not really be the worst of it.
Hi Opebo,
for all those, not so experienced with Thai(?) affairs, can you please elaborate on what you mean by:
"Given what we read in the news reports from the hospital, and the rumors which fly, just how long do you think the entertainment venues will have to close when [i]that dreaded day[/i] comes?"
I am planning to be in Thailand in 3 months and finding all the entertainment venues all closed would spoil the fun.
[QUOTE=Daddy San]Hi Opebo,
for all those, not so experienced with Thai(?) affairs, can you please elaborate on what you mean by:
"Given what we read in the news reports from the hospital, and the rumors which fly, just how long do you think the entertainment venues will have to close when [i]that dreaded day[/i] comes?"
I am planning to be in Thailand in 3 months and finding all the entertainment venues all closed would spoil the fun.[/QUOTE]I think he is reffering to when the King passes on.
[QUOTE=Opebo]I have a question for all experienced punters: Given what we read in the news reports from the hospital, and the rumors which fly, just how long do you think the entertainment venues will have to close when [i]that dreaded day[/i] comes?
I hazarded the guess of three months in a rl conversation recently, with the observation that it might be long enough to kill them (not many bars and nightspots can survive three months revenue free). Of course on the other hand there might be a civil war so mere closure might not really be the worst of it.[/QUOTE]
Are you talk about H1N1? My 17 year old niece died of that in September. Oops caught you now....
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Are you talk about H1N1? My 17 year old niece died of that in September.[/QUOTE]I thought he was talking about the health of the King.
[QUOTE=Opebo]I have a question for all experienced punters: Given what we read in the news reports from the hospital, and the rumors which fly, just how long do you think the entertainment venues will have to close when [i]that dreaded day[/i] comes?
I hazarded the guess of three months in a rl conversation recently, with the observation that it might be long enough to kill them (not many bars and nightspots can survive three months revenue free). Of course on the other hand there might be a civil war so mere closure might not really be the worst of it.[/QUOTE]
The responses from Tansak and Daddy San are somewhat surprising, expressing their ignorance of Opebo's point, since they are regular contributors and surely know a bit about Thailand. That's the sort of response I would expect from a newbie.
I would imagine that after the first week things will return to a semblance of normality, (after all people need money to live), and then there will be a few days at a somewhat later date when everything shuts up for the final ceremonies. After that of course, due to the expected "coloured" in fighting, I would expect a complete take-over and clamp down by the military; farangs vacationing elsewhere, and a complete liquidation of Thailand's monetary system.
Perhaps time to start reading up on the Cambodia and Vietnam forums!
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]The responses from Tansak and Daddy San are somewhat surprising, expressing their ignorance of Opebo's point, since they are regular contributors and surely know a bit about Thailand. That's the sort of response I would expect from a newbie.
I would imagine that after the first week things will return to a semblance of normality, (after all people need money to live), and then there will be a few days at a somewhat later date when everything shuts up for the final ceremonies. After that of course, due to the expected "coloured" in fighting, I would expect a complete take-over and clamp down by the military; farangs vacationing elsewhere, and a complete liquidation of Thailand's monetary system.
Perhaps time to start reading up on the Cambodia and Vietnam forums![/QUOTE]
Shit I will always be a newbie... :D And if you think you will ever know Thai without being a Thai then you are a fool. Or I should say if I as a foreigner ever think I will understand Thai then I would be a fool to think this. Others want to think they can be accepted and understand the society as an outsider then fine.
But since he has been ill for years and in the hospital for over a month already but the last report I have is that he was supposed to be recovering it's not the top of my list of things to worry about.
It's been a dark cloud hanging over Thai for years now, you never know when it will happen but it's not like this is anything new. It is unfortunate to say but we've operated in our work that he has already passed and there has been no stability in country for a long time now. With all the govt. changes we've had to change our operations so many times it is not even funny.
The only difference will be a long period of mourning and then a complete change in who we at my work are dealing with. The only answer for punting is to have a rolodex while things shake out.
The venues will of course close for a while, but many venues will close and the tourism will only suffer more then what it has been.
Enjoy what you have now and face the music when the time comes. Why be concern with something you have no control over? It’s inevitable that we will all meet the same fate as the revered one will. However, life will go on. There have been other (popular) Kings who have passed and we're still here. As popular as the King is, the Thais are smart/greedy enough to know that they must survive therefore the real power brokers will surely not let things get out of hand to the point where they start losing money for a noteworthy but increasingly symbolic gesture/figure regardless of how important it is to some.
Hey open an e-trade account. Then when close to travel set up transfers from primary bank to e-trade bank account. E-trade oes not charge you an also reimbureses you for forgien atm bank fees! Worked in Colombia and Peru this summer. Chuk dee krup!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]ATM,
For the past month Goverment Bank (Pink Machines) have been reconfiguring their computers and ATM, to make the charge official 150 Baht for Foreign ATM cards. This last month you put in your Foreign ATM card and after a few seconds especially after you push " English " seconds later the response is that there is a problem. I went to over 6 ATM's throughout Pattaya and they came up with all the same response. Now as stated they are all working if you agree on the 150 baht.
The only Bank now that I know is AEON, that isn't charging is the Japanese owned. And most have been removed or not working throughout Pattaya except the main branch in Lotus, North Pattaya!
Now one has to consider this when they use the ATM'S, is along with the 150 Baht charge is what is the rate they are giving you. Here is what I found!
Using this general example in USD currency! Lets say the official rate is 33.50 Today!
Bank of Bangkok: ATM rate given is 32.45
Siam Commericail: ATM rate given is 32.42
Bank of Ayuthya: ATM rate given is 32.33
Govenment Bank: ATM rate given is 33.35
I have found although all the above banks are charging now the 150 Baht the Government Bank is giving the best rate!
Took out money from AEON two weeks ago at Lotus, no charge! The day exchange rate was something like 33.65, and they gave me 33.42!
Some are reporting that some of the above might not be charging ( Except AEON ) but that depends on where the card comes from.....
Good luck, LBM[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]I would imagine that after the first week things will return to a semblance of normality, (after all people need money to live), and then there will be a few days at a somewhat later date when everything shuts up for the final ceremonies. After that of course, due to the expected "coloured" in fighting, I would expect a complete take-over and clamp down by the military; farangs vacationing elsewhere, and a complete liquidation of Thailand's monetary system.[/QUOTE]
I would say you slightly underestimate the difficulty of the mourning period, and probably overestimate the long-run difficulties, Bumholes.
[QUOTE=Opebo]I would say you slightly underestimate the difficulty of the mourning period, and probably overestimate the long-run difficulties, Bumholes.[/QUOTE]
I really hope that I have over-estimated the long term difficulties, but I fear the "coloured" war and the return of a certain person will totally destabilise Thailand.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]the return of a certain person will totally destabilise Thailand.[/QUOTE]
He already is pulling a lot of strings and many countries / companies are having talks with this certain person. Means little if he is out of country and a criminal or not.
[QUOTE=Opebo]probably overestimate the long-run difficulties[/QUOTE]
From my little corner in the world and what I gotta do, Thai has not been stable politically and it won't be they just keep making new parties and every time I walk in a building there is a new person sitting behind the desk that I gotta talk to and start all over. Which is not a bad thing it keeps me coming back to thai.
With what I do we've look at it for three years now as an unstable govt.
This is not a slam on the Thai's, it is stable for visitors to come, but going from a monarchy to change into god knows whatever they will become will take time and growing pains. The benefit is that I gotta keep going back to thai as we can't get anything accomplished :D
I am more worried about our financial assets being in PI then in Thai even after whenever the passing will happen. I firmly believe international Assets will be OK in thai but I am sure gonna keep a rolodex handy for my enjoyment purposes.
The most valuable asset will be NicFrenchy's black book. I'll start the bidding at two seats first class BKK to Paris :D :D :D
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I firmly believe international Assets will be OK in thai but I am sure gonna keep a rolodex handy for my enjoyment purposes.
The most valuable asset will be NicFrenchy's black book.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't care less about any international assets, I'm only concerned about the venues. If they are closed, no reason to stay here.
Well, i have trip planned to bkk from nov10 to 20 and I have tried to read about the locations of where to go as far as a hotel. Im looking for a nice but cheap hotel that is very close (pref walkable to the action) Do I want to be near Soi Cowboy? And is it worth it to head to Pattaya for a few days or should i take my whole trip there? I am very excited but feel I will be looking in the wrong places. Please any kind of direction I should be pointed in to take me to the right hotel and the right bars would be great. I am a huge contributor in the US board and only have a few adventures over seas. any help would be great.
[QUOTE=George Sims]Well, i have trip planned to bkk from nov10 to 20 and I have tried to read about the locations of where to go as far as a hotel. Im looking for a nice but cheap hotel that is very close (pref walkable to the action) Do I want to be near Soi Cowboy? And is it worth it to head to Pattaya for a few days or should i take my whole trip there? I am very excited but feel I will be looking in the wrong places. Please any kind of direction I should be pointed in to take me to the right hotel and the right bars would be great. I am a huge contributor in the US board and only have a few adventures over seas. any help would be great.[/QUOTE]
You just asked so many loaded questions I'm afraid to even attempt to help you in fear of the back lash.
BKK vs. Pattaya... everyone has their own opinion, some folks hate pattaya as an in your face hell hole. Others think it is a great place with open minded people, lower costs in hotels, food, women, and a much better mongering scene.
Pattaya sex scene is MUCH larger then in Cowboy, it is a little more rowdy, a lot more naughty, but the girls also can roll you easier, pull some bait and switch and I think the crime in Pattaya is higher. But it is a lower cost. As far as girls go, there are hot thai chicks in both locations.
Pattaya can be a little over whelming for a first time visitor, especially if he is solo. And you got so many options that from what I've heard people say... first visit they hate it, second visit was ok, third visit they like it, fourth visit they really enjoy it. It takes a while find what you like about Pattaya, where you like, where things are etc...
My answer to you, you will never know unless you try both BKK and Pattaya. The BKK purists will tell you it is scum on earth in Pattaya and the Pattaya gang will tell you BKK is an overpriced egotistical opinionated scene. But being a virgin and alone in Pattaya you wont' see probably what you should see.
Seriously try to pay up to a senior member or such to get PM's so others can help you directly is my advice.
Hotels... you opened a can of worms there too... In BKK you got what I think of as 7 main areas for sex. Cowboy, Nana, Soapies, Massage Parlors, Soi 33, Clubs, then Free Lance Places.
Cowboy is a small street full of bars for girls, some bars have shows, some are topless, some are clothed etc... Everyone likes their own bars. Baccara is more Asian but have OK girls. Tilac is improving. Suzie Wong / Shark are more dirty type places etc... Midnight and others are OK, it's all hit and miss and what you like. There are hotels around there, MP Lurker just posted some hotels in the BKK hotel thread, Admiral Premier and others.
Nana, you got Majectic Grand and a host of others, you got Soi 11 with citadiens and Grand President etc... Those are all around NEP. Nana is a corner basically with different floors of small bars, some are lady boy bars but some bars like Rainbow 4 are OK bars, it is more crowded etc.... More compacted. Some folks only like Nana some folks HATE nana.
Soapies... those are an MRT ride away so don't bother with a hotel near there IMHO. Worth a visit if you are a newbie, there are some soapies or semi soapies in Sukhumvit area, Annies, Darling is kind of a soapie I guess etc... But most of the known better Sopaies are off the MRT (underground Rail System)
MP's are spread all over but Tulip is off the BTS (sky rail system), same with snow white, mango, aviva, and many others... There are MP's (for sex) all over the town.
Free Lance Places, Gullivers, Sukhumvit Road, Beer Garden, Hillary's, New Wave and others... Thermane etc...
Disco's or such, CM2, Boss, Spice, Bed Super, Q Bar etc... Higher cost, can find rusian chicks at a few of these places.
Soi 33, you got a few hotels near it, it is higher costing places, You got some hotels on soi 22 near it, and then Novtel Lotus and Livingstones on the street. The bars are more hostess bars.
Hotels.... shit man stay where ever you want, read the hotel thread as there are too many to pick seriously. Any place you go most of the girls will want to taxi back to your place. If you get a place on Soi 11 and end up at cowboy the girls will want to taxi... 40 baht... so what... big deal.
Go read the hotel thread a little we all have our preferences as to where to stay and what bars to visit. You asked way to much of a general questions for one answer. There's 100's of bars / MP's / hotels in BKK and even more in Pattaya....
You are way too vague for me, what is nice but cheap mean to you? To some guys under 150 USD a night is a cheap hotel. For others cheap is 800 baht a night. Near Cowboy means what, a 10 minute walk or right next door? Not trying to be rude but you are just asking way too vague questions and need to read up or google the scene a little more.
[QUOTE=George Sims]Well, i have trip planned to bkk from nov10 to 20 and I have tried to read about the locations of where to go as far as a hotel. Im looking for a nice but cheap hotel that is very close (pref walkable to the action) Do I want to be near Soi Cowboy? And is it worth it to head to Pattaya for a few days or should i take my whole trip there? I am very excited but feel I will be looking in the wrong places. Please any kind of direction I should be pointed in to take me to the right hotel and the right bars would be great. I am a huge contributor in the US board and only have a few adventures over seas. any help would be great.[/QUOTE]
If this is your first time to Thailand then spend 3-4 days in Bangkok and the rest in Pattaya . There is plenty of info ref hotels in the in the hotel thread .
If you want any info on Patts you can PM me
[QUOTE=Opebo]I couldn't care less about any international assets, I'm only concerned about the venues. If they are closed, no reason to stay here.[/QUOTE]
You better care about international assets or thai will end up like Philippines. You don't want the Thai Govt. to take away protection of foreign assets, freeze foreign assets, or disallow foreign assets and have the economy crash farther.
In true thai mentality since economy goes down they'll try to up the price for pussy. Hell maybe BKK will end up like Vietnam where Hanoi is dead (from what I'm learning as I gotta go there) but Ho Chi Min still has options.
And what venues? You don't head to Venues :D Or you rarely head to the tourist joints from your posts. You think they'll close china town or chicken farms? If shit hits the fan then Soi 33 could die but your haunts might spring to life so you could be in heaven. BB all over for a few baht... who knows.
[QUOTE=George Sims]Well, i have trip planned to bkk from nov10 to 20 and I have tried to read about the locations of where to go as far as a hotel. Im looking for a nice but cheap hotel that is very close (pref walkable to the action) Do I want to be near Soi Cowboy? And is it worth it to head to Pattaya for a few days or should i take my whole trip there? I am very excited but feel I will be looking in the wrong places. Please any kind of direction I should be pointed in to take me to the right hotel and the right bars would be great. I am a huge contributor in the US board and only have a few adventures over seas. any help would be great.[/QUOTE]
Hello George!
I wish you would stay longer on your first trip, but as you only have 10 days I would recommend you to focus on only one of the places. And I would have chosen Bkk.
If you want a very good, close to action hotel, I would have just stayed in the Dynasty Grande. Its between soi 4 and 6 sukhumvit and you can walk to Nana plaza in about 4 minutes. Great rooms and bathrooms. Lcd tv, and dvd. Very big rooms. Cost about 2100 thb.
The best choice in this area. I have tried most others as well.
From this hotel you have walking distance to everything around soi 4. If you want to go to Cowboy you can just take the skytrain for 4 minutes and you will be there.
Remember the hotel name. Its absolutely the best value in this area.
[QUOTE=George Sims]Well, i have trip planned to bkk from nov10 to 20 and I have tried to read about the locations of where to go as far as a hotel. Im looking for a nice but cheap hotel that is very close (pref walkable to the action) Do I want to be near Soi Cowboy? And is it worth it to head to Pattaya for a few days or should i take my whole trip there? I am very excited but feel I will be looking in the wrong places. Please any kind of direction I should be pointed in to take me to the right hotel and the right bars would be great. I am a huge contributor in the US board and only have a few adventures over seas. any help would be great.[/QUOTE]
If it's your first time in Thailand and if you are coming here mainly for mongering, I would recommend that you directly go and spend most of your holidays in Pattaya. You will get more fucks for your bucks than in the capital city. In Pattaya, prices for (almost) everything are not only lower, but there are less variations too.
In Bangkok, a first-timer is an easy target and may be charged several times more for the same service or goods than an experienced traveller or resident. In Pattaya, it might happened too, but not as often as in Bangkok (in my humble opinion) and most of the time, as the regular prices are lower, the scams are (usually) less ambitious or harmful as well at the end of the day!
If I were in your shoes, I would spend only two or three days in Bangkok, but at the end of my holidays. You will be already more experienced after a few days in Pattaya and you should be better armed than a perfect newbie once you are in Bangkok.
But Bangkok is probably a better choice if you come to Thailand not only for its nightlife and P4P scene. Of course, you can also find other activities in Pattaya too, but on your first stay there, you might find Pattaya a bit dull in the morning and in the early afternoon. Bangkok offers more obvious non-mongering attractions. Shopping is also more interesting in Bangkok (provided that you look around and try to know the regular prices before spending your money).
Let me say THANK YOU to those who responded because I am positive that I have asked questions that have been asked millions of times before and some may be numb for answering and people not reading the forum.
First, I gather a few days in Pat and majority in BKK. One question i was worried about is which hotel is safe and not goin to steal my things while I am gone because I do plan to shop. So to make this more exact, I think around 2500 baht or less for a hotel should be fine.
To explain myself more, i have been to PI manila before so I am not a complete newbie and have some street smarts to me.
I would like to invite anyone who is here for a few beers on me. I hate being alone but only find a few friends will be able to travel with me and this time it was alone or not at all. I would love the insight.
Being that soapies and MPs are avail here in US i tend to enjoy the freelancers and go go bars.
One thing i am completely drawn to check out is the bj bars. This sound amazing.
I also like really small skinny younger girls (18 plus of coarse) so finding these girls or bars is important to me.
So I guess a nice hotel that is close to freelance and go go bars and 2500 baht or less and safe. I am coming in at 1145pm so I would like to know where I am heading and know its safe.
Also, Im assuming that all this action is not spread out in great distance, sounds like everythig is relatively close via taxi, am I right??
Sorry for the loaded and vague questions, but answer if you like, I love the help and Im sure there are other newbies that apprciate the answers.
Let me know if anyone is meeting up for beers or anything of that nature. I am game.
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[QUOTE=George Sims]First, I gather a few days in Pat and majority in BKK. One question i was worried about is which hotel is safe and not goin to steal my things while I am gone because I do plan to shop. So to make this more exact, I think around 2500 baht or less for a hotel should be fine.[/QUOTE]
Still not helping much as 2500 will get you about 100 different hotel rooms and even in the poor economy the thai's who work hotels are very honest in my opinion. Never am fearful about items in my room, this is not Manila trust me. Obviously don't be foolish but leaving 1,000's of USD worth of electronics out has never been an issue for me.
You really only gotta watch out for the girls you bring back and I've never pulled one that steals so blatantly. Free Lancers are your biggest risk but for the most part you short time them and usually even they are honest.
[QUOTE=George Sims]Also, Im assuming that all this action is not spread out in great distance, sounds like everythig is relatively close via taxi, am I right??[/QUOTE]
Most action is on the skytrain a few minutes you can even walk from 33 to 4. Again this is not Manila. Compacted in BKK. Pattaya is more spread out the BKK is.
Pattaya you got baht buses or trucks, BKK you got Sky Train (BTS) and then the underground train to take you to Soapies MRT....
Only time I'm in a taxi in BKK is getting from the airport or taking a girl back to the hotel. Usually I am on the MRT, BTS, or walking.
[QUOTE=George Sims]Being that soapies and MPs are avail here in US i tend to enjoy the freelancers and go go bars.[/QUOTE]
Sorry forgot this part. You can not compare USA MP and Thai MP. That is applies and oranges. Being very nice here... you would be a fool not to try a thai MP. Pick one, eden, aviva, angeles, snow white, tulip, mango, etc... they all have unique experiences. But you can not say you have an MP's in the US. Trust me, venture to some MP's in Thailand.
[QUOTE=George Sims]I also like really small skinny younger girls (18 plus of coarse) so finding these girls or bars is important to me.[/QUOTE]
Um... Ok you described most the girls... You'll enjoy...
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]you would be a fool not to try a thai MP. Pick one, eden, aviva, angeles, snow white, tulip, mango, etc... they all have unique experiences. [/QUOTE]
Let me get in a little bit more detail than that:
[b]MASSAGE PARLORS :Traditional Thai Massage [/b]
Pricing
1 hour = 200 THB
2 hours = 400 THB
Basically all the Massage places in Thailand will offer this Type of Massage.
You do not get a private room for this type of massage, just a common room with mattresses on the floor separated by curtains.
This is my favorite massage, the technique will amaze you!! They make every bones and joints in your body Crack!
You need to wear a Pajamas for this Massage, they will provide one for you.
Unless you go to a Hotel’s spa, at the end of the Thai Massage, 99% of the Time the Masseuse will ask you if you want the “Special Massage”
Special massage in a Thai Massage place consists of a HJ (Hand Job) and if you’re lucky a CBJ (Covered Blow Job).
HJ Special is THB 500 and CBJ is THB 1,000.
The girl will stay clothed during the Whole Session
[b]MASSAGE PARLORS : Herbal Oil Massage[/b]
Pricing for Oil Massage:
1 hour = 400 THB
1.5 hours = 600 THB
2 hours = 800 THB
Pricing for Lotion Massage:
1 hour = 600 THB
1.5 hours = 800 THB
2 hours = 1000 THB
This is the carbon copy of what you call a Swedish Massage.
Except for the 5 star places, they will all use Baby Oil (which smells and is difficult to wash in the shower). Lotion Massage is an odorless body lotion that is very easy to clean and disappears in the shower once the massage is over.
Almost 100% of the Oil Massage Providers will offer you “Special Massage”
In about 75% of the Massage Places, Farangs will go there for the “Extras” (or Special Massage if you prefer). This is a little different than the Traditional Thai Massage Places.
For Traditional Thai Massage, the Providers are usually a little “Older” and you do not get to chose them.
In the case of Oil Massage, you are the one to chose your masseuse.
You can chose your girl “Live” by going to the Room where they all sit, or order from a Catalogue where you see all the Girls Pictures.
The Catalogue is for Japanese people, most of them would never walk in the room and face 20 girls (that’s 40 pairs of eyes staring at you)… they prefer to be discrete and look at the catalogue. The reason why looking at the catalogue is a bad idea is that all the girl’s pictures are heavily photoshoped. Best is to face them and see which ones you get vibes from (while some will smile and wave in your direction, others won’t even look at you).
Once you choose your girl, you can Order the time you want.
99% of the oil places will offer you a private room with in Room Shower
For this massage type, you need to take a shower in the Room prior and after the Massage.
Usually, the Girl comes in the shower with you and she washes you thoroughly (yes, she cleans you everywhere!) and then showers herself also.
Onto the bed she proceeds to massage you using the Oil, and for this massage, you are completely naked. After about 45 minutes of massage, she will ask if you want “Special Massage”.
Now this is different from Traditional Thai Massage, because you are in a private and Closed room, the Extras offered will be as Follows :
HJ Special is THB 500
CBJ or BBBJ is THB 1,000
FS is THB 1,500
(usually when you order FS, she will give you a BJ to start)
Once you “come”, the session is Over and back to the shower where she washes you again.
[b]MASSAGE PARLORS : Body Soapy Massage[/b]
Now this is a very different scheme as the 2 massage types outlined above. While most massage places that offer Thai Massage will offer you Oil Massage, the ones that offer Soapy only deal with Soapy.
Pricing:
Pricing is a little complicated as every place has its own. Some Places only cater to Thais, some only to Japanese and some only to Farangs (non Asians). Though, most places will accept Foreigners but apply a fee (called Farang surcharge) which can go from THB 500 to 1,500 above the Thai Price.
Cheapest you can find is THB 1,800 for 1.5 hours and could go up to THB 6,500 (for “Models” or Freelancers).
Soapy Massage (also Called MP by the Local Farangs) has a very easy modus operandi….
Just walk into the MP and wait for the Papasan to approach you… you have 2 options :
a) look at the Fishbowl first
The Fishbowl is called a Fishbowl because the Room where the Girls sit is all glass so you can see them from everywhere…. Pretty much like an aquarium.
In some places, the girls cannot see you and in other places, it’s just a glass and they can see who comes in and out.
b) All the ladies have a number that they keep until they quit working for the Place… so if you like a certain lady, remember her number and ask the Papasan next time you visit and she will have the same number. Better, Book in advance to make sure she is working that day, and/or not busy with another customer.
Some places have 2 or even 3 different fishbowl, which means that the prices are different per Fishbowl (every girl in one FB is at the same price)
So you can have a Fishbowl @ THB 1,800, another @ THB 2,200 and a third one @ THB 2,800 (the most expensive it gets, the better the girls will look)…. Some places even offer you “Models” that have made covers of magazines… but they are expensive and quite Frankly “Starfish”.
Also, you sometimes have girls wandering outside of the FB, hanging out on a sofa…. These are Freelancers, they do not work for the Massage place and are not professionals… they can be your average supermarket Cashier trying to get some quick cash… they pay a hefty commission to the MP if they are chosen and are usually also quite expensive and not very good in bed.
c) Choose the lady (or Ladies… remember, you are paying so you can have as many ladies as you want at the same time).
d) The Papasan will quote you a price… (now be wary of these fuckers… some will try to scam you… basically, anything on top of the regular price goes right into his pocket). Also, he will “recommend” you ladies… (“take #45, very good”….) but he only pushes girls that will give him a kickback on the “Extras” Money…
e) Soapys (or MPs) usually always include the same Routine :
a. You get a bath with the girl naked in the bathtub washing you
everywhere
b. You are guaranteed a BBBJ in the tub and 99% of the ladies will let
you “come” in their mouth
c. After the bath, you move on to the bed where you receive an oil
Massage
NB : Some places have an inflatable mattress and offer a Full Body to Body Soapy experience (meaning that the girl will soap herself and wash you again with her tits and pussy by sliding all over your body)
Not All places have inflatable mattresses as it is quite rare.
d. After the massage, the lady will proceed to another BBBJ and then
have sex with you
e. After sex, back in the bathtub and she washes you again before
you leave
f) You need to leave a “tip” to the lady before you leave, the tip is up to you but usually ladies will expect nothing less than THB 500 (unless you did not like the session then you don’t have to tip).
[b]BARS : Fantasy Bars : Blowjob Bars[/b]
There are quite a few of those in every main area of Thailand.
Like the name says, this is a bar where you can have a drink, and choose a lady for a BJ and you leave.
Pricing:
BJ = THB 700 to 1,000 (depending on the place)
This is a pretty straightforward bar (looks like any bar in Bkk) except that you need to be prepared before you walk in.
Ladies everywhere and all ready to give you a Blowjob anywhere… yes, you read correct, you can sit at the Bar counter and ask a girl to Blow you right there in front of everyone while you quietly sip on your Beer…
A lot of people like to be watched and/or watch others receiving a Blowjob (think of it as a “Live” porn amateur movie).
For the non-exhibitionist, they have areas with couches separated by a thick curtain to give you a little Privacy.
As there are no Showers, the lady will thoroughly clean you dick before putting it in her mouth..
The girls will give you a BBBJ until you come (technically you have 20 minutes to come) and after 15 minutes, she will look at you and ask “you come now?”
In these covered but not so private areas (you will see some people opening the curtains from time to time.. especially girls… some will also come and sit beside you to watch the other girls blow you… you can be offered FJ (whereas the lady will drop her panties and sit on you, she will slip a condom of course) FJ = Additional THB 500 to 1,000
You also have Private cubicles (real concrete walls and a locking Door) that cost Extra THB 300 to 500 but only for FJ.
That’s about all, as its name says, it’s a Blowjob Bar so you come in, order a Beer get sucked, deposit your load in the girl’s mouth, pay and go.
The ladies there are very good at giving Blowjobs but the older they are (experience) the deeper they go (great Deepthroat). Most young girls will not go very far down your dick… and if you ask them to suck deeper, they will complain that “Farang too Big, Mai Dai” (meaning that Foreigners are too big and she cannot Deepthroat)… which of course is bullshit.
You can take a lady out of the bar and bring her back to your hotel but you’ll have to pay a Barfine to the bar (usually THB 500 to 600).
[b]BARS : Fantasy Bars : Eden Club[/b]
Purely the Kinkiest club/Bar in Bangkok….
- Eden Club is not for everybody: Club specialized 1 guy and 2 ladies ( or more )
ABOUT THE MENU:
1 MAN WITH 2, OR MORE LADIES
If unsatisfied with service, no charge.
Special fantasies? Let Marc (the owner) know and he’ll make it happend
All bisexual ladies, dildo and strap on.
Just show the ladies what you like, and don't be shy, they've heard it all before.
Left side of the yellow line anal sex.
All the ladies provide oral sex.
90 min. sessions, unlimited sessions.
Per lady : 1800 Bht (US$45)
EVERYTHING INCLUDED
Example of a Basic Eden Experience :
- 2 Ladies
- 3 drinks
- Tips to the Ladies
All in All about THB 5,000 (US$ 125)
You choose 2 ladies yourself, even better, you choose one, and she chooses the other.
Uniforms on request (to please your Fantasies)
I'm considering staying with thai gf in laos where she works for 7-10 days on my next trip to Thailand in January, as a north american who gets a free 30 day tourist visa to Thailand on every trip, do I need an extra visa to come & go from Laos or is my passport good enough?
How much is this extra visa if I need 1?
All I know is that thais just have to pay a 40B passport stamp charge
I think the town on the thai side is called mudahan or something like that, is there any mongering activities during the day when the gf is at work & I'm in this town to kill time because GF says there's nothing to do in the Laos part where she lives.
[QUOTE=George Sims]
So I guess a nice hotel that is close to freelance and go go bars and 2500 baht or less and safe. I am coming in at 1145pm so I would like to know where I am heading and know its safe.[/quote]
2,500 can get you a very nice hotel in BKK but (and I know I will get killed for saying this) as this is your first time I would suggest the Livingstone Lodge.
Yes, I am friends with its owner but it is not the reason why I am suggesting it to you.
For starters, as an ISG member, you will get a 20% discount, they have all day breakfast (in case you wake up late) and the food is great.
Now this is not the main reason why I recommend LL.
During your stay at LL, you can meet some fellow ISG members staying there, meet the owner (Giotto) and discuss all about the best places and best girls (you can't do that in other hotels).
Also, I really suggest you try these places: EDEN CLUB, SOL, Mango
[QUOTE=George Sims]...So I guess a nice hotel that is close to freelance and go go bars and 2500 baht or less and safe. I am coming in at 1145pm so I would like to know where I am heading and know its safe...[/QUOTE]By the time you get to your hotel it will be late. You might want to call a massage shop and have a woman come to your room to give you a relaxing message and a nice "tuck-in" special. I've used Sabai Sabai Massage on Suk Soi 11 for this a few times when I've come in late (they're open 24 hours). They have some very nice providers especially for this type of service.
I second Nic's recommendation for LL. I've stayed there when in BKK for visits and it was great. It's very relaxed, doesn't feel like a hotel, the food is good, and there's friendly ladies in the Sport Bar. Lots of other options right out there on Soi 33 for massages, etc., too.
[quote=george sims]first, i gather a few days in pat and majority in bkk. one question i was worried about is which hotel is safe and not goin to steal my things while i am gone because i do plan to shop. so to make this more exact, i think around 2500 baht or less for a hotel should be fine.[/quote]
one thing that people are losing sight of, where are you going first? you say you want to shop. for what? so you will go to bkk first, shop, then lug all your stuff to pat's??? kind of sounds backwards to me. and of course depending what you want to shop for it could be cheaper in pats then in bkk.
everyone here so far is talking about hotels and places in bkk. if you land at midnight, collect your bags get to pattaya you can be in full swing mode.
hotels are cheaper in pattaya then in bkk. bay walk, baron beach, ones off the street etc... i mention bay walk as they are right on beach road and 5 min walk to walking street. but there are tons of hotels in pattaya.
maybe you don't want to hit bkk first.
nicfrenchy gave you a great run down on options but did not list what the names of each type of massage joint is. i will bow to his expertise on listing out names to each type of place as i don't want to clutter his listing as it is a great listing.
i will only mention that if you are into bj bars then go to star of light in patpong (the only reason to go to patpong in my opinion) and sit down and get a bj right there on the couch, pull in a girl or two or so to help and suck on some nipples and such while the guy next to you or across the way is getting one also. you have [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on soi 8 also for bj's and a few other places.
but you should decide if you want to run to pattaya first or bkk first. pattaya stays open later, there are late night places in bkk but pattaya pretty much slows down when the sun comes up for about 30 minutes then the day time trade starts to take over also.
so if you are arriving full of spit and vinegar... maybe you want to avoid bkk all together and hit pattaya first.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...The Catalogue is for Japanese people, most of them would never walk in the room and face 20 girls (that’s 40 pairs of eyes staring at you)…[/QUOTE]
Great and very informative report, NicFrenchy! But I prefer girls that have only one pair of eyes (= 2 eyes) usually! :D
First and foremost. Thanks. These last few posting sessions make me feel a little better about showing up on a wimb with no real agenda.
The only shopping I will be doing is for Fake purses for all the girlfriends and family back home, and maybe a few shirts for myself. Whatever I buy I will ship home so I don't have to lug it around, so no worries there.
Now, no one has offered up a beer session? Come on, I'm sure someone wouldn't mind meeting up for a beer. Haha
Anyhow, I think I'm going to try Dynasty or LL for a hotel. I know in Tijuanna I can ask the hotel to bring up some girls to my room and I choose which one I want. Someone mentioned a tuck in special. Will the front desk know of this?
I think I have a few bars in mind now too.
I have been on DIA and I will be honest. Only 2 or 3 responded back, where I tried this for Manila and I had about 44 replies and over a dozen numbers ready to be called and googly eyed girls all over town "falling in love" with me. Let me ask this. In comparison to PI is Bangkok similar? This is my feel, correct me if wrong.
When in PI there is tons of p4p but it seems the hotels have congo lines of fat old men there courting their new wives around. All the girls seem to fall in love and stare at you in hopes you will talk to them like desperate girls hoping the rock star will reach out and bring them back to the back stage of a concert.
Now when I read about BKK, I get the feeling its all sex. No flirting or girls that act or try to act like they like you. I enjoyed the whole girls desiring me thing and not paying only, because I banged about half on just meeting them and half on P4p. Is this the same in BKK or just pure p4p?
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[QUOTE=George Sims]I have been on DIA and I will be honest. Only 2 or 3 responded back, where I tried this for Manila and I had about 44 replies and over a dozen numbers ready to be called and googly eyed girls all over town "falling in love" with me. Let me ask this. In comparison to PI is Bangkok similar? This is my feel, correct me if wrong. because I banged about half on just meeting them and half on P4p. Is this the same in BKK or just pure p4p?[/QUOTE]
I monger in both and PI and Thai are opposites in MANY ways.
DIA is not big in Thai, getting non P4P to go with will be a chore where as in PI you walk out your hotel door and you got a girl in two minutes it seems like. PI you can pick up girls in malls, restaurants, anywhere for sex and a lot of time not pay for it. In BKK you'll pay for it and they will act any way you want them to act as long as you pay them.
Thai Love Links (pay for site) is bigger and you find P4P pretending to be non P4P on that site. But shoot man, for 10 days go rent it and leave it behind.
[QUOTE=George Sims]Anyhow, I think I'm going to try Dynasty or LL for a hotel. [/QUOTE]
Seems like you are more into the free lance scene, if so Dynasty is closer to that. More closer to Beer Garden, Hillary's, Gullivers, and then NEP and such.
LL is on Soi 33 more of a hostess bar area. There's thread here called Giotto's Lodge and that is LL. You can ask your questions there about the place.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=754[/url]
The owner Giotto posts all over and his best friend The Pro posts all about it also.
Due to late arrival if you are hot to trot after landing your late night pick up will be around Sukhumvit road free lancers, some bars are open late but you'll be rushing.... or go to Pattaya first which stays open later and more options then BKK.
Fake bags cheaper in Pattaya then in BKK, shirts and tailors all over BKK and Pattaya from over priced to cheap and cheesy.
[QUOTE=George Sims]...
I know in Tijuanna I can ask the hotel to bring up some girls to my room and I choose which one I want. Someone mentioned a tuck in special. Will the front desk know of this?
...
[/QUOTE]George Sims,
No, neither the front desk nor anybody else here will do that. Livingstone's Lodge is a hotel, and within the hotel complex we are running restaurants and the Sports Lounge. If you are looking for a girl you either bring a girl in from wherever you find her, or you go to the Sports Lounge and possibly find somebody there. That's definitely something you have to take care of personally, we don't want to get involved into that.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...
The owner Giotto posts all over and his best friend The Pro posts all about it also.
...
[/QUOTE]LOL.
It's definitely time that I invite The Pro to show him around in our overpriced establishment :).
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]LOL.
It's definitely time that I invite The Pro to show him around in our overpriced establishment :).
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Bad Idea, I wouldn't want the Pro to like the place... he will be around at LL in case I come see you... I don't think I would like that :(
[QUOTE=Member #3200]I'm considering staying with thai gf in laos where she works for 7-10 days on my next trip to Thailand in January, as a north american who gets a free 30 day tourist visa to Thailand on every trip, do I need an extra visa to come & go from Laos or is my passport good enough?
How much is this extra visa if I need 1?
All I know is that thais just have to pay a 40B passport stamp charge
I think the town on the thai side is called mudahan or something like that, is there any mongering activities during the day when the gf is at work & I'm in this town to kill time because GF says there's nothing to do in the Laos part where she lives.[/QUOTE]The place you are talking about is Mugdahan, it is 700kms north of Bangkok, there is a border crossing there it will cost you $20 US (just bring a couple of passport photos and your passport) if you forget your photos they will charge you another $10US.I have been there a number of times it is a great experience but i would advise 3 to 4 nights is enough.
As far as mongering is concerned i didnt get a chance as i had my Thai GF with me 24/7, i will say that in Mugdahan and over the border in Laos the p4p scene certainly isnt obviously visible.
Again, i think its a good experience heading up country, i last 3 to 4 nights before im ready to head back to Bangkok.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Bad Idea, I wouldn't want the Pro to like the place... he will be around at LL in case I come see you... I don't think I would like that :([/QUOTE]Naah,
We are all weird, to a certain extend. And we are not going to take those reports personally, do we?
Look, The Pro needs some consultancy how to start-up his own hotel, and of course I am willing to help him with that :).
Giotto
PS: If he then afterwards barfines a girl from our bar it's up to him whether he tips or not :D !
[QUOTE=Giotto]George Sims,
No, neither the front desk nor anybody else here will do that. Livingstone's Lodge is a hotel, and within the hotel complex we are running restaurants and the Sports Lounge. If you are looking for a girl you either bring a girl in from wherever you find her, or you go to the Sports Lounge and possibly find somebody there. That's definitely something you have to take care of personally, we don't want to get involved into that.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
OH OH!!!
I can just see this coming.... another discussion coming up about the Big P... word!!
Lord Almighty!
SEAJ
Does anyone know where in bkk i can get a HTC mobile repaired? I know there are computer repairs at Pantip, but do they also repair mobile phones?
[QUOTE=Member #3200]I'm considering staying with thai gf in laos where she works for 7-10 days on my next trip to Thailand in January, as a north american who gets a free 30 day tourist visa to Thailand on every trip, do I need an extra visa to come & go from Laos or is my passport good enough?
How much is this extra visa if I need 1?
All I know is that thais just have to pay a 40B passport stamp charge
I think the town on the thai side is called mudahan or something like that, is there any mongering activities during the day when the gf is at work & I'm in this town to kill time because GF says there's nothing to do in the Laos part where she lives.[/QUOTE]
As of March 2009 i.e. this year, this was my experience.
I don't know if the law has changed, but doubt it, so you'd better check, because it might affect your plans.
You get the 30 day tourist visa, if you enter Thailand via an international Airport, e.g BKK, Chiang Mai, Phuket, etc.
It is for a [b]single entry only[/b] and free (if I remember correctly).
BUT at local border crossings, such as Vientiane / Nong Kai, you get only a 7 day visa (confirm this!).
So for a "visa run" you would need to fly from Laos to e.g. BKK.
Flights Luang Prabang / BKK are quite expensive.
Check Expedia and then confirm & book with the individual Airlines.
I am sure some members with recent experience can comment.
[QUOTE=Daddy San]...BUT at local border crossings, such as Vientiane / Nong Kai, you get only a 7 day visa (confirm this!).
...[/QUOTE]
Depending on your nationality, you can get a 15-day visa exemption when entering Thailand at the immigration checkpoints which border neighboring countries (and a 30-day visa exemption when entering the Kingdom via an international airport).
[url]http://www.mfa.go.th/web/2482.php?id=2490[/url]
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Does anyone know where in bkk i can get a HTC mobile repaired? I know there are computer repairs at Pantip, but do they also repair mobile phones?[/QUOTE]
They probably can do that at MBK.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBK_Center[/url]
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...
Fake bags cheaper in Pattaya then in BKK...[/QUOTE]
It really depends on your negotiation skills and on where you buy things in Bangkok and Pattaya... but in my humble opinion, clothes, bags, watches (etc.) are usually cheaper in Bangkok than Pattaya. But in Bangkok, you should not do your shopping on Silom or Sukhumvit but on places frequented mostly by locals, such as Pratunam market for instance.
[QUOTE=Goyave]They probably can do that at MBK.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBK_Center[/url][/QUOTE]
MBK has an HTC shop that they send phones out for repair if they can't fix them.
[QUOTE=Giotto]We are all weird, to a certain extend. And we are not going to take those reports personally, do we?[/QUOTE]
If we were not weird, to a certain extent (extend must be that European spelling I guess :) ) then we would have stopped at less then 100 posts, any over 100 posts is a fucking lunatic.
Anyone over 500 is certifiable, anyone over 1000 should be incarcerated for life, and I won't go mention anyone higher then that level :D
[QUOTE=Goyave]It really depends on your negotiation skills and on where you buy things in Bangkok and Pattaya... but in my humble opinion, clothes, bags, watches (etc.) are usually cheaper in Bangkok than Pattaya. But in Bangkok, you should not do your shopping on Silom or Sukhumvit but on places frequented mostly by locals, such as Pratunam market for instance.[/QUOTE]
Touche.... I shall agree and concede the point to you as you view this and add I do all my shopping in BKK.
HOWEVER with respect I think it should be noted.... I view this as the OP being his first trip to Thailand, appears to be going alone and is not meeting up with anyone that knows the places. And given the fact that you must get away from MBK areas and most talked about places (the places that are talked about most on the web not just ISG), and you need to have good negotiating skills and you should have a decent understanding of thai culture and language to negotiate properly... I contend that my post is still accurate for the OP.
For newbies who do not know BKK area or are not willing to venture out and about, Phuket, Pattaya, and other areas are cheaper for many things then what these people will find in BKK.
Many newbies are nervous, unsure of themselves, and do things / stay at hotels / eat at restaurants / go to clubs / go to places / etc... that are most talked about on the web until they get a few trips under their belt. Which is fully understandable.
Then they venture out and find out what LOS is really all about.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Let me get in a little bit more detail than that:
[b]MASSAGE PARLORS :Traditional Thai Massage [/b]
[b]MASSAGE PARLORS : Herbal Oil Massage[/b]
[b]MASSAGE PARLORS : Body Soapy Massage[/b]
[b]BARS : Fantasy Bars : Blowjob Bars[/b]
[b]BARS : Fantasy Bars : Eden Club[/b]
[/QUOTE]
This should really put an end to many newby questions..they do not have to RTFF, but tusut read this conntribution and go and get the job done! And report back.
Hope it goes in the Report of Distinction
Bien fait, NickFrenchy!
[QUOTE=Giotto]George Sims,
No, neither the front desk nor anybody else here will do that. Livingstone's Lodge is a hotel, and within the hotel complex we are running restaurants and the Sports Lounge. If you are looking for a girl you either bring a girl in from wherever you find her, or you go to the Sports Lounge and possibly find somebody there. That's definitely something you have to take care of personally, we don't want to get involved into that.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
...and the girls at LL will make sure to take care personally of getting in touch with the guest:)) in a nice and not pushy way!
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]MBK has an HTC shop that they send phones out for repair if they can't fix them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goyave]They probably can do that at MBK.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBK_Center[/url][/QUOTE]
Thank a lot guys... i'll make it a try there
I will be in BKK from Nov 10th till the 17th. I hear good things about your hotel and I have been to your website. Should I email, call or just say I am an ISG member when i arrive? I think its great that you offer a discount for us. Im sure the answer to my questions are somewhere on the site, but I am not real good at searching the threads. Please let me know what to do and I look forward to meeting you.
[QUOTE=Giotto]George Sims,
No, neither the front desk nor anybody else here will do that. Livingstone's Lodge is a hotel, and within the hotel complex we are running restaurants and the Sports Lounge. If you are looking for a girl you either bring a girl in from wherever you find her, or you go to the Sports Lounge and possibly find somebody there. That's definitely something you have to take care of personally, we don't want to get involved into that.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Ok, so I am very happy of what I learned here. Not only did I RTFF, I am going to print it and use it as bible. Well. More like a tool. I really do appreciate the help and info from everyone. I am a very good negotiator and pretty savoy to pick up on trends and know things different in other countries. I am not scared or anything to be alone, I just have a hard time to get my buddies to jump on board with my trips all over. I have been to PI and Tijuanna for Monger only trips. I have a few more places I want to see and compare to see which is the best. If anyone else has any comparisons to other trips I would not mind a few comments on here.
IS anyone else going to be at LL NOV 10 to 17 or just in the area? I wouldn't mind an expert guide to pick their brain and have a few brews.
[QUOTE=Giotto]George Sims,
No, neither the front desk nor anybody else here will do that. Livingstone's Lodge is a hotel, and within the hotel complex we are running restaurants and the Sports Lounge. If you are looking for a girl you either bring a girl in from wherever you find her, or you go to the Sports Lounge and possibly find somebody there. That's definitely something you have to take care of personally, we don't want to get involved into that.
Giotto[/QUOTE]Apart from the barfine.
[QUOTE=Titanio]Apart from the barfine.[/QUOTE]Speaking of fines, does LL charge for you to bring a girl back? I hope not.
[QUOTE=George Sims]Speaking of fines, does LL charge for you to bring a girl back? I hope not.[/QUOTE]
Only if they are uglier then you :D
[QUOTE=George Sims]I will be in BKK from Nov 10th till the 17th. I hear good things about your hotel and I have been to your website. Should I email, call or just say I am an ISG member when i arrive? I think its great that you offer a discount for us. Im sure the answer to my questions are somewhere on the site, but I am not real good at searching the threads. Please let me know what to do and I look forward to meeting you.[/QUOTE]George Sims,
You find the conditions of the ISG discount for members here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2536[/URL]
Furthermore - no joiner fees at Livingstone's Lodge.
I tried to send a PM to you, but ... you did not activate Private Messaging :).
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Tansak implied The Pro might actually be the return of The Traveller. I don't think so - he's too fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]
T1234, you are giving TT more credit than he is due.
But in all fairness, TT would never step foot in Annies. (not bashing Annies).
[QUOTE=Giotto]The Pro,
[b]Nobody[/b] gets ripped off here at Livingstone's Lodge!
Giotto[/QUOTE]
I could not agree more. LL is a very cool place. I have stayed there at least a dozen times. Never a problem, never a complaint. If the pro has stayed there, incognito of course, as he probably doesn't have the balls to introduce himself to G, (and I know something about having or not having a pair of balls), then he should speak up. A businessman always wants to hear how to improve things..
So pro, put up, air your grievances, or SHUT THE FUCK UP. NOBODY WANTS TO READ YOUR BIASED BULLSHIT.
[QUOTE=The Pro]You should be aware though that Giotto and his band of merry posters attempt their best to try to "plug" LL as often as possible.
Its expensive, the rooms are not very luxurious, the location is poor in terms of traffic........and thats why they have to "market" it all over the forums in attempt to try to drum up business.
They prefer to "latch" on to newbies who might not know Bangkok, and then rip them off, as such, with their overpriced offerings.
Far better hotels on Sukhumvit, nearer to the action and with far better rooms, all at cheaper prices......
But then, its anyones choice to stay there if they want to.[/QUOTE]
The Pro.... I've called you out many times, I've said let's have a drink, lets meet, I've sent you msgs on other sites where you are doing the same thing. You might have valid points, you might not. But you are just slamming a place for no reason in most peoples opinion.
Every town we are a newbie in for some time and ISG members meet up at LL as well as other locations. I know for a fact and I will be kicked out of the "LL Fan Club" for saying this but I know for a fact that every guy who has posted support for LL does not stay there at all times.
Trav123 stays at other places when his wife is in town, 1Ball I heard stayed at another place when his GF was looking for him, I stay at serviced apartments due to work, Duni has more experience at more hotels then many folks and posted a hotel listing on ISG, MP Lurker has posted hotel listings all over town, PITA123 stays at other places due to his work, NicFrenchy lives in town and does not need a hotel etc... we could go on and on. I post all the time about hotels and serviced apartments in the hotel thread. Please read the hotel thread and you will see that all of us support more places. But when we can yes we stay at LL because we like it there. So call the Tourist Police and arrest us.
BUT... what you seem to have a problem with is that people can be friends, can frequent a place, enjoy a bar, enjoy the food, enjoy the owner, and yes when we can we stay there. If an ISG newbie or a BKK newbie wants to come to LL they stand a high chance of meeting an ISG member that has been in BKK for multiple years and knows most of the joints to go monger at.
Is that bad? Is that such a bad thing that the owner of LL, Gioto, has a place where ISG members can go, drink, eat, sleep, talk, relax, and OH MY GOD if we are horny we might find a girl. I've had two long term girls out of LL I admit this. I've had 15 or so short time girls out of LL maybe. I've even had a mamasan or two (not current ones folks so don't get your nickers up). Girls want 4,000 or 3,000 baht, I'm not going to get into what girls ask for their time as I honestly for half a year don't know thanks to having a GF. The last girl I took there become more of a GF and is not working there anymore. But when I was at CowBoy you know what, the girls started at 4 K.
Overpriced ???
Drinks... OK let me see the drinks I got at cowboy were about the size of a double shot glass and costed the same as a full adult sized glass at LL.
Overpriced ???
Rooms, comfortable, the owner gives a discount even if you post that his hotel is a piece of shit :D Seriously there is no rule that you have to post postiive you have to post about your MONGERING experience and STAY in BKK etc... to get a discount. You can get a room upgrade, so you could get a high end room for 1800 or so baht. PLEASE CORRECT ME AS I REALLY AM NOT CURRENT ON BILLING..... There is no joiner fee even if I joked to GeorgeSims about it earlier... There are no hidden fees or such. But what is #1 most important to me and many business travelers is that the dang wifi is STRONG and fast and we can do our work while in the bar or at the pool. Or if you are there you can eamil your wife or GF back home telling her how hard you are working.... Many hotels and locations in BKK have crap signal and strength. Can not use skype or trading accounts or live programs due to the weak signals at other locations. At LL you have a strong fast signal and my programs where i need to log in form outside allows me access.
Overpriced???
YES THERE ARE 1,000'S OF ROOMS ALL OVER BKK. Go find what you want OK, all the people you claim to be supporters of LL have posted reviews of other hotels and bars and MP's and such. So you are going to claim anyone who goes to Beer Garden is a Fan Boy of Beer Garden and getting free Singha for posting about it???? Really I think you do have some psychosis going in that head of yours.
I will be the first person to admit that people can have different opinions and there are times that people like 1Ball, NicFrenchy, MPLurker, Giotto, Pita123, and others do NOT always agree on things. But how the fuck could we agree on everything as we are from all over the world and view things from different jobs and countries perspectives. But we are adults and we do talk things out and we do meet. Giotto and I had a nice dinner on soi 12 then a drink at Cowboy my last visit. How does that make me a Fan Boy of LL? How is that bad, the owner of LL meets with a friend in another location.... but you say we only support LL... you really have NO CLUE as to what you say.
If anyone of these guys sent me an email or text message for help I would help them. WHY? because I've meet them and talked to them and went out with them and we all meet at LL or other places and spent time together.
So may I ask if you are afraid, jealous, insecure in your masculinity, or what? Can a bunch of guys who like WOMEN not get together and talk at a place and enjoy that place. Many people go to Ball N Hand and shoot pool and meet there. Are you going to start to slam them?
For ISG readers, newbies, etc... LL is a place you can go to, if you stay there or not, to meet other ISG members who share the same hobby (some of us go to extremes and are total ass holes as I am chairman of the ass hole committee and persona non grata at many locations in BKK), get advice, not feel totally uncomfortable, and learn the lay of the land in BKK. When I go to Pattaya or Manila other places I go to the local ISG hang outs and meet the experienced guys as things change often. You would be a fool if you do not use the ISG resources and people to the fullest. SO WHAT IS YOUR BIG FUCKING DEAL ABOUT MEETING AT LL?
So why do you have such a hard on about these places? Just now the guys (duni, 1ball, others) are starting in again, I've called you out, put up or shut up, meet up for a drink anywhere as I really believe you are a troll. Whatever wrong is done to you let me hear it, were you overcharged 10 baht on your bill? A girl you took from LL said you had a baby monkey and could not perform? What?
Or do you really want advice on how to operate your own business when you open up and are trolling here now.... But until you show some efforts or proof of what you insinuate about others here shut the hell up on attacking ISG members.
Call me whatever you want to call me I don't give a rats ass, I'm the only one calling you out to meet in person, but stop your insinuations about these other members that you do not know or have never met. You are just making yourself out to be a ******* and that is infringing on my title ;)
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[QUOTE=The Pro]Its simple really, keep all your LL and Giotto stuff in the Giotto and LL threads then.
...
[/QUOTE]The Pro,
It is you who is spreading this discussion to all threads of the Thailand forum. Nobody was doing that in the past.
If Fon Tok mentions to have visited Livingstone's Lodge he suddenly is suspected to be my second handle, or to act on my instruction. None of this allegations is true.
It is quite normal that Livingstone's is mentioned in the main Thailand forum as well as all other places. It is even possible that it is mentioned more often, because many ISG guys come here, just to have a dinner or a beer with me. So - where is the problem?
Last but not least:
It is one thing to discuss our price structure, and everybody can have his own assessment whether it is ok, too expensive or too cheap (I heard all those opinions over the years). A judgement about this is definitely up to each person, who HAS VISITED OUR PLACE / HAS STAYED IN THE HOTEL ROOMS.
It is a complete different issue to state that we are ripping of customers. This can conduct injuries to the interests of our business, and there is the point where discussions can get serious.
Of course mistakes and problems happen here as in all other places ("shit happens"). There are for sure customers who can write about certain incidents when things went wrong. There are reports about those incidents, and there will be reports about those incidents in the future.
But [b]nobody[/b] gets ripped off here at Livingstone's Lodge. To state this is an affront, and it disqualifies you as poster who can be taken seriously.
Giotto
Dear The Pro!
Please take a moment and view my response on the Expat Thread " Opinion "
Thank you,
LBM
I've been to BKK twice, and was so incredibly spoiled that I'm afraid I'll never be able to match that level of satisfaction until I return. Unfortunately I can't go back any time soon.
The reason I think I'll never be able to match BKK heights? Well, I love extra petite girls, early twenties, and this is nearly impossible to find in New York (although they're everywhere in BKK). I got lucky once on craigslist, but have not been able to repeat that.
I realize this is a Thailand forum, but I don't see any US equivalent. So can someone please help. I don't mind paying a premium. How do you find Bangkokesque extra petite early twenties hotties in NYC?
[QUOTE=Mong1225]
I realize this is a Thailand forum, but I don't see any US equivalent. So can someone please help. I don't mind paying a premium. How do you find Bangkokesque extra petite early twenties hotties in NYC?
[/QUOTE]
You gots to know where to look. Try http://www.usasexguide(DOT)info/forum/
Slim
Originally Posted by The Pro
Its expensive, the rooms are not very luxurious, the location is poor in terms of traffic........and thats why they have to "market" it all over the forums in attempt to try to drum up business.
They prefer to "latch" on to newbies who might not know Bangkok, and then rip them off, as such, with their overpriced offerings.
Far better hotels on Sukhumvit, nearer to the action and with far better rooms, all at cheaper prices......
But then, its anyones choice to stay there if they want to.
----------------------------
Yes you moron, and in spite of your infantile and inept attacks, I shall be staying there for the third year runnig.
Choice is yours. I very much appreciate all input that all members have given and Giotto. One thing I hate when checking out a new city is the location and comfort of the hotel when you just go and wonder around. At first I was going to spend one day at LL, but now after watching all the conversation I am going to spend my whole trip there. 1) I love steaks. 2) I love pool 3) fast internet when doing biz is HUGE. Id hate to lug my shit around to hotel to hotel in order to find all this. PLUS A DISCOUNT FOR BEING A MONGER.
This board is a great tool, but some things you have to figure for yourself and I plan to figure out BKK from the comfort of my room at LL!
Giott0, I will be sending you a PM in a few hours once my donation to another forum has cleared! Then I'll ask you a few questions. And guys, I will be posting some day by day experiences. I like all sorts of box, from bargain free lancer box to high end box, so I will try little samples all over.
HOpe to bump into some members at the pool while I sip on my drink and eat one of many steaks!
[QUOTE=George Sims] 3) fast internet when doing biz is HUGE. Id hate to lug my shit around to hotel to hotel in order to find all this. [/QUOTE]
Well... you're going to Thailand. The girls will blow your mind, and your other end. But the Internet ... don't get your hopes up. You'll be lucky if the electrical power stays on. When you see the wires hanging from the power poles you'll understand.
[QUOTE=Daddy San]Originally Posted by The Pro
Its expensive, the rooms are not very luxurious, the location is poor in terms of traffic........and thats why they have to "market" it all over the forums in attempt to try to drum up business.
They prefer to "latch" on to newbies who might not know Bangkok, and then rip them off, as such, with their overpriced offerings.
Far better hotels on Sukhumvit, nearer to the action and with far better rooms, all at cheaper prices......
But then, its anyones choice to stay there if they want to.
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Yes you moron, and in spite of your infantile and inept attacks, I shall be staying there for the third year runnig.[/QUOTE]Eat once there thai food. Fried rice a simply thai dish. They charge. If memory is right about 180 or 220 250. Yes this is overpriced. Yes the food overall is overpriced. But this is normal practice at some hotels here. At amari watergate they charge a cheese burger with french fries 380 baht.
Just posted on Annie's thread, but thought it worth repeating. It made me laugh.
A Korean guy recently told me about the three ages of man:
Youth: Plenty of power, plenty of time, but no money.
Middle age: Plenty of money, plenty of power, but no time.
Old age: Plenty of time, plenty of money, but no power..
What a great idea!
If all the girls wore them it would make some of those early discussions so much easier! I'm planning to go and buy a few packs and distribute them next trip...
[url]http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article6910040.ece[/url]
(There's clearly a debate to be had about whether kids should be allowed to wear them, but let's avoid that debate shall we?)
I am typing this report in LL right now. So far, I am underwhelm by this place.
However, I will hold my tongue (fingers?) because the day is still young.
I will keep you guys posted.
[QUOTE=Mouse1]What a great idea!
If all the girls wore them it would make some of those early discussions so much easier! I'm planning to go and buy a few packs and distribute them next trip...
[url]http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article6910040.ece[/url]
(There's clearly a debate to be had about whether kids should be allowed to wear them, but let's avoid that debate shall we?)[/QUOTE]
"The Wakefield MP Mary Creagh has demanded that “shag bands” be withdrawn from sale in Poundland and has raised the issue with Ed Balls, the Children’s Secretary. "
If Ed gets fired from his job as Children's Secretary, he might make a great moderator for this forum.
[QUOTE=Big Joe 11]I am typing this report in LL right now. So far, I am underwhelm by this place.
However, I will hold my tongue (fingers? ) because the day is still young. I will keep you guys posted.[/QUOTE]Just finished up with a girl in LL for short time. She is not a stunner but very friendly. I got to rest up because my little bro is not really up to it and she has to give me HJ than cbjtc. She was nice about it though. I need to rest up and actually do some sightseeing.
[QUOTE=Tall Tom]"The Wakefield MP Mary Creagh has demanded that “shag bands” be withdrawn from sale in Poundland and has raised the issue with Ed Balls, the Children’s Secretary. "
If Ed gets fired from his job as Children's Secretary, he might make a great moderator for this forum.[/QUOTE]Hi TT. Good to hear from you...
I was very amused by the story that at one school, rather than banning them outright and making them even more popular, one of the older female teachers started wearing them. As a result, all the cool kids stopped wearing them straightaway!
Here's for you cheapos, a website that find people who land at the same time as you, and go in the same direction so you can share the taxi ride and save money.
[url]www.taxi.to[/url]
It's actually a brilliant idea and I see a lot of people will use this. Maybe not in LOS, but in countries like Paris or Muenchen, London... where taxi rates are horrendous.
I arrive and was greeted by Manager and everything was set with room number and check in was super easy. He gave me a quick do's and dont's of Bangkok to keep me safe for my little adventure at 1:30am.
Staff: is all friendly and willing to help with directions and any other question I could muster up.
Room: is very nice and bed is SUPER comfortable.
Food: So far I ate breakfast and lunch here and both meals are cooked wonderful and the complimentary breakfast is a PLUS! It is nice to see that there are Thai menu and Western food. This is great if you have issues adapting to the food here and need a slice of home.
Internet: is very fast via cable plug in or wifi, whichever you choose.
Over all in my first 24hrs. I was treated with respect from everyone and everything is great as promised. The setting here is a tropical ambiance and is a constant reminder I am here on vacation (as the rest of the world calls it "holliday'). As i took a swim in the pool and ate lunch, Giotto came over and introduced himself and gave me a run down on what to do and not to do as well and helped me narrow my search for shopping and women. Offers many choices at his bar alone but insisted on my visiting a few others. This is nice because any advice you get on the outside of these walls will be influenced by biz owners tipping the taxi drivers in order to get your confused ass in the door.
I plan to be here for my ENTIRE trip. No need to look around. Things are safe here and no worries. Sadly I do not want to stop contributing to this board so I am going to have to move here to Bangkok (any ISG discount for a 6 month stay??)
In closing, if you have not been here to bangkok or LL you owe it to yourself to check in for a few days and see what I am talking about.
Let me get a few girls under my belt and ill post a second one about all the adventures I have got myself into!!
[QUOTE=George Sims]I arrive and was greeted by Guido and everything was set with room number and check in was super easy. Guido gave me a quick do's and dont's of Bangkok to keep me safe for my little adventure at 1:30am.
Staff: is all friendly and willing to help with directions and any other question I could muster up.
Room: is very nice and bed is SUPER comfortable.
Food: So far I ate breakfast and lunch here and both meals are cooked wonderful and the complimentary breakfast is a PLUS! It is nice to see that there are Thai menu and Western food. This is great if you have issues adapting to the food here and need a slice of home.
Internet: is very fast via cable plug in or wifi, whichever you choose.
Over all in my first 24hrs. I was treated with respect from everyone and everything is great as promised. The setting here is a tropical ambiance and is a constant reminder I am here on vacation (as the rest of the world calls it "holliday'). As i took a swim in the pool and ate lunch Giotto came over and introduced himself and gave me a run down on what to do and not to do as well and helped me narrow my search for shopping and women. Offers many choices at his bar alone but insisted on my visiting a few others. This is nice because any advice you get on the outside of these walls will be influenced by biz owners tipping the taxi drivers in order to get your confused ass in the door.
I plan to be here for my ENTIRE trip. No need to look around. Things are safe here and no worries. Sadly I do not want to stop contributing to this board so I am going to have to move here to Bangkok (any ISG discount for a 6 month stay??)
In closing, if you have not been here to bangkok or LL you owe it to yourself to check in for a few days and see what I am talking about.
Let me get a few girls under my belt and ill post a second one about all the adventures I have got myself into!![/QUOTE]I second the bed is extremely comfortable. The staffs are nice but it is hard for me to get a hold of the manager because he comes late. One thing good about LL is that at least you feel safe and don't have to worry about being scam here. The constant scams out there really take toll on me but I feel safe inside the hotel. For the food, I think because it is more gear toward the farang. I enjoy the street vendors food more and I look like a super sized thai so I blend in easier. Also the place is really quiet which is a plus in this crazy city.
Hi folks,
Recently on two consecutive nights I've picked up girls with no ID.
The first time it came to light when we returned to my hotel and the reception asked for ID. The girl didn't have a card, but produced a tatty paper thingy which wasnt accepted by reception. Having no ID worried me, so I passed...she was a looker too.
The next night, at Nana, I got talking to a FL who asked where I was staying. When I told her (Dawin) she said she couldn't go because she had no ID and instead suggested a ST room. Again, alarm bells were ringing and I passed.
Both these girls were in their mid 20's I'd reckon, so whats the go here? I thought every girl needed ID.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Sainter21]Hi folks, Both these girls were in their mid 20's I'd reckon, so whats the go here? I thought every girl needed ID.[/QUOTE]Yes, strange because most P4P practitioners would know that an ID is needed at hotels. Maybe they were not girls? Hmmmmm....
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Yes, strange because most P4P practitioners would know that an ID is needed at hotels. Maybe they were not girls? Hmmmmm....[/QUOTE]
Or maybe illegals from Laos (or Cambodia or Burma but less likely).
[QUOTE=George Sims]I
In closing, if you have not been here to bangkok or LL you owe it to yourself to check in for a few days and see what I am talking about.
Let me get a few girls under my belt and ill post a second one about all the adventures I have got myself into!![/QUOTE]
I agree in full, LL is an island in BKK.
Pity (but really nobody's fault) there were building works nearby daytime reminding you where you are, otherwise one might even think to be in a resort in a tropical island.
Daytime life flows easily in the Lodge and right, no scam, no pushing to buy whatever.
Night time is similarly calm and relaxed in the bar, but one can find action and whatever else he wants feeling super safe about his choice of the night.
Certainly not a place for a cheap charlie, but I agree on Giotto's policy to keep it a bit exclusively or, at least, filtered by the price.
Have been impressed by the number of staff working there.
Well done Giotto!
Dont be so fast throwin her back just because she has no ID. Could be a variety of reasons and most won't affect you (unless she's a he). Usually theres another way to get her in (side/back door) or else just insist/steamroll or (heaven forbid) bribe your way in. If she has no ID she may have been passed on before and you may score for less $$$. And of course be safe, watch your shit and take no chances. Where were you staying, BTW?
[QUOTE=Sainter21]Hi folks,
Recently on two consecutive nights I've picked up girls with no ID.
The first time it came to light when we returned to my hotel and the reception asked for ID. The girl didn't have a card, but produced a tatty paper thingy which wasnt accepted by reception. Having no ID worried me, so I passed...she was a looker too. Where were you staying BTW?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Anyone have any firsthand experience with an optician in BKK? I just lost/had stolen a pair of perscription sunglasses in a TJ bar and since I'll be in BKK in a few weeks thought I might wait and replace them there.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Anyone have any firsthand experience with an optician in BKK? I just lost/had stolen a pair of perscription sunglasses in a TJ bar and since I'll be in BKK in a few weeks thought I might wait and replace them there.[/QUOTE]
Top Charoen they are all over Thailand. I used the one on Soi 22 with great results over the years. It is a chain store but the service on Soi 22 and the results were better then at home for me.
The other one is Waltz at Siam Paragon. Those are the only two I know and I liked them both actually. But there are a few on the second floor of Paragon I just not used them all.
I know there are some at MBK also. Opticians are like Dental clinics in BKK they are all over the place....
Has anyone been able to use their Thai prepaid phone line (please specify which provider) abroad to make/receive calls/sms in either Cambodia, Phillipines or Indonesia?? If so, how do you activate it or is it automatic?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Egy Monger]Has anyone been able to use their Thai prepaid phone line (please specify which provider) abroad to make/receive calls/sms in either Cambodia, Phillipines or Indonesia?? If so, how do you activate it or is it automatic?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
AIS works in PI for sure but is expensive but hard to refill.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]AIS works in PI for sure but is expensive but hard to refill.[/QUOTE]
Did you have to manually activate roaming by calling the provider or did you just go to Phillipines and find out that it works automaticly?
[QUOTE=Egy Monger]Has anyone been able to use their Thai prepaid phone line (please specify which provider) abroad to make/receive calls/sms in either Cambodia, Phillipines or Indonesia?? If so, how do you activate it or is it automatic?Thanks.[/QUOTE]I use 12Go and it did NOT work in Jakarta. Can't comment about the other countries.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Top Charoen they are all over Thailand. I used the one on Soi 22 with great results over the years. It is a chain store but the service on Soi 22 and the results were better then at home for me.
The other one is Waltz at Siam Paragon. Those are the only two I know and I liked them both actually. But there are a few on the second floor of Paragon I just not used them all.
I know there are some at MBK also. Opticians are like Dental clinics in BKK they are all over the place....[/QUOTE]Rjsss212
unfortunately I cannot second KTV's remarks. My experience with the optician in Soi 22 was on the negative side. Though I provided him with a current prescription from my US doc and a locally performed eye exam the new glasses didnt work for me. As I need bifocals this had happened before also in the States but rather then to get the glasses redone for free ( definitely not my fault that the glasses werent ok ) the optician insisted that I would have to pay again if I want them to be redone. I declined as we were talking 12000Baht and recorded it as 'experience'.
Generally the cost for prescription glasses here inThailand are much cheaper than in the US or Europe but there is also a flipside to it.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]AIS works in PI for sure but is expensive but hard to refill.[/QUOTE]Same here, my AIS's 1-2Call prepaid works pretty much everywhere in Asia (and stateside), although it's costs an arm and leg per minute. Rates from Asia start at B30 to call Thailand, B40 elsewhere. SMS starts at B15 upward.
[QUOTE=Egy Monger]Did you have to manually activate roaming by calling the provider or did you just go to Phillipines and find out that it works automaticly?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.gsmadvance.com/services/Chapter4_eng.pdf[/url]
[url]http://translate.google.fm/translate?hl=en&sl=th&u=http://www.roaming.ais.co.th/&ei=LG_8Sqr9BZL8sQOS-dyHAQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAoQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DAIS%2Broaming%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG[/url]
Those should help you scroll down the first one....
It's automatic for me everyplace I've been.... AIS is 12Call
Pattaya or Phuket for Christmas / New Years? What's better for quality off women, price, beach party atmosphere etc.
Thanks,
Johnnybraz.
DTAC happy dial *118*9# then dial.
Works for me in Cambodia, Sri Lanka, Vietnam
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Pattaya or Phuket for Christmas / New Years? What's better for quality off women, price, beach party atmosphere etc.
Thanks,
Johnnybraz.[/QUOTE]
Phuket is always better for beach quality and always more expensive. Pattaya is always better for women as far as quantity and price. As for women quality, you can find many gems among the WGs in either place - up to you.
You will pay more in Phuket - of that, I am certain. It might be worth it for you, or it might not. Only you can make that decision. If you are seriously considering Phuket, I might add Koh Samui (Lamai or Chaweng beaches) to the list. I prefer it to Phuket as far as an upscale beach resort with plenty of companionship available. But for me, I am spending most of my time in Pattaya next trip, because this trip for me is all about getting laid very well, many times on a constrained budget.
[QUOTE=Mistral66]Rjsss212
unfortunately I cannot second KTV's remarks. My experience with the optician in Soi 22 was on the negative side. Though I provided him with a current prescription from my US doc and a locally performed eye exam the new glasses didnt work for me. As I need bifocals this had happened before also in the States but rather then to get the glasses redone for free ( definitely not my fault that the glasses werent ok ) the optician insisted that I would have to pay again if I want them to be redone. I declined as we were talking 12000Baht and recorded it as 'experience'.
Generally the cost for prescription glasses here inThailand are much cheaper than in the US or Europe but there is also a flipside to it.[/QUOTE]
I did some quite thorough research, i.e. compare quality, service and price earlier this year and finally bought top quality Hoya multifocals, including frame and a magnetic polarizing sunglass clip for THB 8000 at "Modern Optical" on Suhumvit between Asok and Soi 14.
In Germany, we pay the equivalent of 11000 THB for one single Hoya multifocal lens!
You have to remember, that all the chains, Top Charoen, Modern Optical and others, are franchises with more or less independant shop operators. They all order their lenses from Hoya, Rodenstock and others.
But it is the optometrist's skill, which determines if the glasses work for you or not.
This means not only the correct prescription, but also the placement of the lenses in the frame (optical vs. mechanical axis, pupilar distance etc.)
I found that some of the clerks, (even at Top Charoen) were total morons, who could only read from the flyers. God help you, if you get one of those.
Btw. Hoya lenses (Japanese) are the most common in LOS, but you can get Rodenstock (definitely better quality, especially for strong, high dioptries lenses) at about 50% premium, BUT long deliveries. Hoya multifocals take 3-4 days.
I made a deal UPFRONT with the optometrist/shop manager, that if the glasses did not fit (optically), there would be no charge, and he knew, that I did not have time to wait for a second attempt.
This time I am going back for another, slightly stronger pair with Rodenstock lenses, right at the start of my SE Asia trip.
[QUOTE=Cadjan]DTAC happy dial *118*9# then dial.
Works for me in Cambodia, Sri Lanka, Vietnam[/QUOTE]
Thanks, but any prior arrangements before to activate roaming???
Anyone stayed in the expat hotel in patong beach?
Phuket?
Is it girl friendly?
The ATM fee of a couple of banks has been reduced from 150 baht to 15 baht for a couple of banks, and hopefully all the others will follow.
Presently BofA and SCB are putting their machines down from 150 to 15, some are done and others not.
So if you get a machine wanting 150 baht then keep trying the others until you get one thats got the 15 baht fee.
A lot of BofA machines (the yellow ones) are still not charging anything, some will say 150 baht and others 15 baht.
SCB is 15 baht, but the SCB machines in prominant tourist area's (like the airport) are still at 150 baht.
[QUOTE=Egy Monger]Thanks, but any prior arrangements before to activate roaming?[/QUOTE]No, just key in those numbers. And add credit.
[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Anyone stayed in the expat hotel in patong beach?
Phuket?
Is it girl friendly?[/QUOTE]
Hi
I haven't stayed there but it is girl friendly as I have read this on another forum
The last person who did this died in Thailand now Mr. Butts face the same fate.
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BANGKOK - Thai customs officials said Wednesday they had arrested a Pakistani man at Bangkok's main international airport with 54 condoms in his stomach containing half a kilo of heroin.
Kamran Pervaiz Butt, 24, was arrested at Suvarnabhumi International Airport on Tuesday morning on a Thai Airways flight from Islamabad, customs authorities said in a statement.
Thai authorities received a tip-off that there would be a drug smuggler on the flight and stopped Butt because of his suspicious manner as he came through the nothing-to-declare channel at customs, they said.
An initial search of his body and his bags revealed nothing but X-rays later showed that he had swallowed 54 condoms packed full of heroin, the statement said.
The total weight of the drugs was 570 grams (1.2 pounds) with a street value in Thailand of approximately 1.7 million baht ($50,000), customs said.
Butt was charged with possession and trafficking of class A drugs, which carries a possible death sentence in Thailand.
For the Fifth consecutive overseas trips. BKK is still my port of Call. I was at angry mode last year when I was trapped in Bangkok during a closed of airports saga. The BKK escape via Phuket was expensive, but is was a necessary thing to Do under circumstances.
This November 2009 trip is consider a great trip with all activities normal in Bangkok and I do Not see any problem cause by political demonstrations.
I have visited Pattaya and Phuket.
I have visited Bangkok manytimes and still want to come back in the future.
[QUOTE=Tratnguyen1]For the Fifth consecutive overseas trips. BKK is still my port of Call. I was at angry mode last year when I was trapped in Bangkok during a closed of airports saga. The BKK escape via Phuket was expensive, but is was a necessary thing to Do under circumstances.
This November 2009 trip is consider a great trip with all activities normal in Bangkok and I do Not see any problem cause by political demonstrations.
I have visited Pattaya and Phuket.
I have visited Bangkok manytimes and still want to come back in the future.[/QUOTE]You lucky. The red shirts plan to rally and demonstrate with a million people this time from nov 29 to dec 04 if the gov is not gone they come back after dec 6 after the k. Birthday.
Is nov 29 your traveling date. Watch carefully the news and have a travel plan be ready.
So I was at Rainbow 4 and barfined a real stunner. About 18 and looked great. Well we did our business and the condom broke! She did not seem worried and said she was just done with her time and not to worry. I insisted on getting her info where she only gave or had an email. I gave her mine as well just so she could contact me. I sent an email a day ago and no response? SO my questions are here. 1) If a bar girl gets preg what do they do? Just have it and single mother? Try to contact person it may belong to? Abortion? Or do these girls take birth control? I am a responsible person and do care to know if she did get preg so not caring is not an option for me. I know her first name and not her bar numer! I have a few pictures with her so I know that helps. What would you guys do or a little insight please. I planned on returning to BKK because it was so fun, but not until like Feb/March. This little issue makes me want to return in like a month or so just so I know.
those in need of internet because you have none or bad internet or the hotel charges daily... i bought a truemove sim card from 7-11 for 49 baht. then activated and topped up for 600 baht to get the 599 unlimited 3g for a month (for 799 the wifi spots will be included). works in bkk and patong. when in pattaya you'll probably get the 2g network. you can tether your phone as a modem or buy a dongle at an it place for about 3000 baht.
speeds are decent. 1-2mbps down, 300kbps up. i've been using it for a solid 10 hours and haven't been disconnected.
see coverage areas here
[url]http://www.truemove.com/en/05_service_3g_3.html[/url]
my speed tests
[url]http://speedtest.ookla.com/result/682775219.png[/url]
[url]http://speedtest.ookla.com/result/682796085.png[/url]
[url]http://www.speedtest.net/result/625383169.png[/url]
[url]http://www.speedtest.net/result/627225958.png[/url]
[QUOTE=The Pro]The ATM fee of a couple of banks has been reduced from 150 baht to 15 baht for a couple of banks, and hopefully all the others will follow.
Presently BofA and SCB are putting their machines down from 150 to 15, some are done and others not.
So if you get a machine wanting 150 baht then keep trying the others until you get one thats got the 15 baht fee.
A lot of BofA machines (the yellow ones) are still not charging anything, some will say 150 baht and others 15 baht.
SCB is 15 baht, but the SCB machines in prominant tourist area's (like the airport) are still at 150 baht.[/QUOTE]What city is this in?
If you have AIS (12call) you can activate international roaming online here
[url]http://www.12call.ais.co.th/en/Content/PopUp/OnlineService/index2.html[/url]
And. Here's what I'm doing which might work with other companies. I have a Cambodia sim with roaming activated but I just never call with it.
Negative: $1. 99 a min to call Cambodia
Negative: Can't send SMS
Positive: Can receive SMS
I then use Skype. I put in my mobile number for SMS, and I then verify through Skype when they send me a text for the cost of $0. 10. Now I can SMS from Skype and the Sim # comes up on the caller ID, and people reply and SMS at their local rate (I think) and it goes to my phone. If I call from Skype I send an SMS saying I'm calling, then call from Skype with no caller ID available. Saves a lot of money.
[QUOTE=Egy Monger]Has anyone been able to use their Thai prepaid phone line (please specify which provider) abroad to make/receive calls/sms in either Cambodia, Phillipines or Indonesia? If so, how do you activate it or is it automatic?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The Pro]The ATM fee of a couple of banks has been reduced from 150 baht to 15 baht for a couple of banks, and hopefully all the others will follow..[/QUOTE]
Damn it, I just paid 150 today. :(
I'll look for that next time I take out money from overseas - maybe next month.
[QUOTE=The Scout]What city is this in?[/QUOTE]All Thailand, however, its being implemented on a machine by machine basis. So you will find some at 150 baht and some changed to 15 baht.
So far I have seen only SCB (Siam Commercial Bank) and BoA (Bank of Ayudhaya. KrungSiri) implement the change to 15 baht. But like I said, its only "some of their machines so far".
If you want to use an SCB one near you, but its still charging 150 baht, then print the following link and pop it on to the managers desk.
[url]http://www.scb.co.th/img/th/rate/fees-atm-en.pdf[/url]
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Gents; I presently have my Great time in BKK. Lower soi Sukhumvit and staying comfy at the Majestic suites with all friendly faces I have known in the past few years. IMO. Bangkok is Not a really bargain city to visit in SEA by a long shot. The Bangkok advantage is this amazing city provides an Easy atmosphere to spend and enjoy. For the political demonstrations and social unrest. I just Don't see it can make a repeat like the November, 2008. The PAD yellow shirts have far more power than the RED shirts in Bangkok city. I Don't mind people doing their demonstration as long as the Airports shall remain open for foreingners travel.
[quote=the scout]those in need of internet because you have none or bad internet or the hotel charges daily... i bought a truemove sim card from 7-11 for 49 baht. then activated and topped up for 600 baht to get the 599 unlimited 3g for a month (for 799 the wifi spots will be included). works in bkk and patong. when in pattaya you'll probably get the 2g network. you can tether your phone as a modem or buy a dongle at an it place for about 3000 baht.
speeds are decent. 1-2mbps down, 300kbps up. i've been using it for a solid 10 hours and haven't been disconnected.
see coverage areas here
[url]http://www.truemove.com/en/05_service_3g_3.html[/url]
my speed tests
[url]http://speedtest.ookla.com/result/682775219.png[/url]
[url]http://speedtest.ookla.com/result/682796085.png[/url]
[url]http://www.speedtest.net/result/625383169.png[/url]
[url]http://www.speedtest.net/result/627225958.png[/url][/quote]
as far as i know there is nothing like 3g in thailand. the tender for the 3g network has been postponed by the government.
cheers
[quote=mistral66]as far as i know there is nothing like 3g in thailand. the tender for the 3g network has been postponed by the government.
cheers[/quote]i've heard the same but with truemove do you think they call it 3g when it's not? if so that's strange. when the sim is in my phone it says it's on the 3g network and when it's in my usb dongle it says it's on the 3g hspa network. the speeds are solid and still report the same with what i posted. when i'm out of the range on the map i linked to, i'm bumped to the edge network which is slower.
Can anybody please let me know which is the best Thai sim card for making international calls?
True are doing 3G trials in Bangkok.
Its their way of "getting around the system".
So their "trial" is in fact them launching their 3G in Bangkok.
Normal Thai nonsense. Not allowed to do 3G yet, but as True has powerful supporters in the government they are allowed to "trial" 3G forever.
Meaning that everyone signs up for 3G from True and gets them established and a massive headstart over the others. When the tender comes out and the others start, all the lead customers are already on 3G from True.
Corruption. Thailand. No. Pull the other one.
[QUOTE=Mistral66]As far as I know there is nothing like 3G in Thailand. The tender for the 3G network has been postponed by the Government.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Gents; My generally impression with this November, 2009 Bangkok is just great and very positive from the Majestic suites hotel to the MP. And NEP. And soi Cowboy. The political demonstrations are just having little to a Non Issue to the foreigners. I put Bangkok on top of the list destination for entertainments.
[QUOTE=Cactus J]There are some in BKK that are good, the major problem is getting to them as traffic is so bad. I go to Pattaya, 140km south, on the bay of Thailand. There are about 25 championship courses within 40 km radius. Not all spectacular but many are as good as you will find anywhere. All are within 45 or so minutes of central Pattaya. Fabian at Thi ger golf is great, they go in vans form his store to about 3 different courses each day, sign up the day before.
His website is thigerlinegolf.com. He is a good operator and will not let you down. Courses I strongly suggest are St Andrews 2000, Leam Chebong, Khaokheow and almost right in town Phoenix. Feel free to ask any questions.
[/QUOTE]
Great suggestions.
Can you give a general pricing on those golf courses? I'll be going soon but have not begun finding their information on websites.
Thanks
I got flagged down by the police the other day at a checkpoint on my motorbike. Two cops stood in the middle of the road to not let people drive around them. I didn't speak, I left my engine running and when they motioned I just handed them my U.S. driving license (not int'l) and they gave it back and let me go. I wasn't expecting it to be so smooth.
My strategy of having a good day at a checkpoint is.
Try to avoid them in the first place. Wear a helmet, use blinkers always even on one way streets, make sure your lights work, always carry your drivers license, limited or no talking to them when pulled over.
I also wanted to give a little more info on the 3G I'm using from this post
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=955915&postcount=3270[/url]
I bought a 3G enabled USB Dongle (Air Card) from Banana IT. If you find a cheaper one just make sure it's 3G enabled because many aren't from what I saw. The one I bought was 2900 baht, you can put a 16gb micro SD card inside if you want. When you plug it into the USB the software auto installs and will track your time online and your MB in and out.
# Model : vodafone X070M
# HSDPA USB Modem
# UMTS 850/2100 MHz HSDPA
# EDGE/GPRS/GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
You can see pictures here
[url]http://www.anonymizeit.com/?http://forums.overclockzone.com********showthread.php?t=636457[/url]
[QUOTE=BruceTea]Great suggestions.
Can you give a general pricing on those golf courses? I'll be going soon but have not begun finding their information on websites.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Try this link
[url]www.thaigerlinegolf.com[/url]
[QUOTE=The Scout]I also wanted to give a little more info on the 3G I'm using from this post
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=955915&postcount=3270[/url]
I bought a 3G enabled USB Dongle (Air Card) from Banana IT. If you find a cheaper one just make sure it's 3G enabled because many aren't from what I saw. The one I bought was 2900 baht, you can put a 16gb micro SD card inside if you want. When you plug it into the USB the software auto installs and will track your time online and your MB in and out.
# Model : vodafone X070M
# HSDPA USB Modem
# UMTS 850/2100 MHz HSDPA
# EDGE/GPRS/GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
You can see pictures here
[url]http://www.anonymizeit.com/?http://forums.overclockzone.com********showthread.php?t=636457[/url][/QUOTE]
@Scout
your external link doesnt work
[QUOTE=The Scout]I got flagged down by the police the other day at a checkpoint on my motorbike. Two cops stood in the middle of the road to not let people drive around them. I didn't speak, I left my engine running and when they motioned I just handed them my U.S. driving license (not int'l) and they gave it back and let me go. I wasn't expecting it to be so smooth.
My strategy of having a good day at a checkpoint is.
Try to avoid them in the first place. Wear a helmet, use blinkers always even on one way streets, make sure your lights work, always carry your drivers license, limited or no talking to them when pulled over.[/QUOTE]
And another thing. Don't go the wrong way down a one way street. That is how they got me. I went down Soi 8 toward Beach Road and turned left. They were set up in front of the police station and he pulled me over. Although I think there was no fucking way he saw me turn left from where he was (maybe there was another cop closer who radioed) I did not have my license on me. Then he tricked me and got me to pull over in a no parking zone. They put a lock on my bike so I could not move it until I had cleared the 600 baht fine. (400 for wrong way and 200 no license...it is actually posted 400 for no license; don't know why they only made me pay 200). When I finally got everything paid, I went outside and the guy was about to put the bike on a tow truck. I got there just in time.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]A They put a lock on my bike so I could not move it until I had cleared the 600 baht fine. When I finally got everything paid, I went outside and the guy was about to put the bike on a tow truck. I got there just in time.[/QUOTE]
Why not settle it all right there? did you have to go to the police station?
Just tell the copper you want to settle it there and then! he will ask you for 100 thb more or so but it's better than having to go to the police and pay and waste 30mn.
Sometimes they even allow you to give the money and ticket to a moto-taxi, you pay the moto taxi 50 thb and he goes to the station to pay for you.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Why not settle it all right there? did you have to go to the police station?
Just tell the copper you want to settle it there and then! he will ask you for 100 thb more or so but it's better than having to go to the police and pay and waste 30mn.
Sometimes they even allow you to give the money and ticket to a moto-taxi, you pay the moto taxi 50 thb and he goes to the station to pay for you.[/QUOTE]
Of course I tried that brother. I even showed him the money. I think he would not do it because 1. we were directly in front of the police station, and 2. there were many other people around.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Of course I tried that brother. I even showed him the money. I think he would not do it because 1. we were directly in front of the police station, and 2. there were many other people around.[/QUOTE]
I've been stopped by the police 4 times in Pattaya, twice for no helmet, once for wrong way on a one way street, and once at a random checkpoint where I could produce no valid license. I offereed to settle the matter with money each time, but each time I ended up at the police station paying the fine, so as for bribery, it's never worked for me.
Maybe the cops are more honest in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=BruceTea]Great suggestions.
Can you give a general pricing on those golf courses? I'll be going soon but have not begun finding their information on websites.
Thanks[/QUOTE]solargolf.com
send him an e-mail, his name is Callum. Tell him the dates that you will be there and he will resond with the dates he has available. He goes out to some of the best courses all the time, his rates are good and he is a top bloke, some of the best times I have had in Pattaya are with him, on and off the course.
Good shooting.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]I've been stopped by the police 4 times in Pattaya, twice for no helmet, once for wrong way on a one way street, and once at a random checkpoint where I could produce no valid license. I offereed to settle the matter with money each time, but each time I ended up at the police station paying the fine, so as for bribery, it's never worked for me.
Maybe the cops are more honest in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I ride a bike now! I am always stopped but never pay a thing. The last time I got stoppped I asked him what for? "riding in the middle lane"! Load of #### I told him "give me the ticket and I will give it to my very high ranking police officer friend in Bangna".
Riding a bike is like being a cash machine at the end of the month. If you can it is best to pay on the spot. As for police in Pattaya being more honest than Bangkok one's. Doubt it.
Motorbikes do have their advantages though. Cheap to run. And never sit in traffic jams. I have saved myself about 2 hours a day! That is a lot of extra time for fun!
See when you get stopped! you can't just make the offer or pull out the money from your pocket and say how much? You got to be discrete! you got to have it folded small and slowly you slip it to them like in a hand shake so the world doesn't see it! Everyone in the world know why they are there stopping people but funny as it may seem they still have their pride!
My brother and I were stopped in Bangkok a few months ago while we were heading back to Pattaya and directed into a particular toll booth. On the otherside the police said we made a illegal line change? What was clear was we were flagged for being from another province our license plate clearly made that clear to them. We were told that if we had to come back to BKK, to address the citation it would cost this much.... while he turn for a moment my brother folded a 1,000 baht note and when the police return he lean into the window slightly with one hand holding his ticket book and the other slightly in the car.. like a spider crawling slowly I watch his finger slowly take the note into his palm and withdraw from the vehicle slowly like he wrote a ticket his method was proven and down right funny to us and off we went a 1,000 baht lighter.
LBM
PI or Thailand, which is best. IF you could only make one trip next year, which is soon, which would be the better choice. Not just cheaper, most enjoyable. Can some experiened Monger give me an opionion?
Hands down, Thailand.
No comparison in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Michael Morris]PI or Thailand, which is best. IF you could only make one trip next year, which is soon, which would be the better choice. Not just cheaper, most enjoyable. Can some experiened Monger give me an opionion?[/QUOTE]
[quote=littlebigman]see when you get stopped! you can't just make the offer or pull out the money from your pocket and say how much? you got to be discrete! you got to have it folded small and slowly you slip it to them like in a hand shake so the world doesn't see it! everyone in the world know why they are there stopping people but funny as it may seem they still have their pride!
my brother and i were stopped in bangkok a few months ago while we were heading back to pattaya and directed into a particular toll booth. on the otherside the police said we made a illegal line change? what was clear was we were flagged for being from another province our license plate clearly made that clear to them. we were told that if we had to come back to bkk, to address the citation it would cost this much.... while he turn for a moment my brother folded a 1,000 baht note and when the police return he lean into the window slightly with one hand holding his ticket book and the other slightly in the car.. like a spider crawling slowly i watch his finger slowly take the note into his palm and withdraw from the vehicle slowly like he wrote a ticket his method was proven and down right funny to us and off we went a 1,000 baht lighter.
lbm[/quote]did you pay too much? 1000 baht is a shitload of street grease for thailand. hmm, yeah maybe, but you definitely did the right thing. getting out of there asap is always the best, but 300 baht is standard for on site damage (it used to be 100, period.)
secret: open your driver's side window, smile. put outstretched arm on the window-well and lean back as if your were just shooting the shit with an old buddy. he will put his pen hand on your arm, the motion says 'gotcha'. then with your left hand, slide the dough between your forearm and his outstretched finger hand. he will peer at his ticket book, look as if he is jotting something, say a few words, look at you for a second to see if you have any serious nerve jangle shit going on, something where he might make a lot more money (or bonus points with the boss,) then he'll simply split. don't hang around, don't even look in your rear view mirror, just get the fuck out of there instantly.
can't even tell you how many times i've done this all over the country. methodology acquired in chiang mai a long long time ago, but it's very similar in places like mexico, anywhere in s. america, morocco, egypt, etc. but, in phuket these days, it's a case of routine stops always involving more than one cop. a quick trip to the closest office relieves you of 500 baht each time, and now true even for stupid parking tickets. the phuket mafia is in total control of the island.
you definitely got it right lbm, but the cop was probably laughing at you more than you were at him.
I also have never been able to give a bribe in Thailand. I have tried many times in Pattaya but they decline. As for here in the upcountry the police rarely stop me, and when they do, they never ask for anything. The worst I can expect is a humiliating hug from the cop in return for letting me off scott free.
As I understand Thai culture, for another adult male to touch you is a sign of his 'social superiority', and a way of publicizing that he is acting as the big brother or benefactor. (Normally only old men give me hugs, walk arm in arm with me, etc - for example, my very aged landlord).
That said I was breathalized in Korat, which was scary.
[QUOTE=Michael Morris]PI or Thailand, which is best. IF you could only make one trip next year, which is soon, which would be the better choice. Not just cheaper, most enjoyable. Can some experiened Monger give me an opionion?[/QUOTE]
Of course it depends on which city you visit in each country but they're both enjoyable so just pick one. You will enjoy both LOS and the PI but if you can try them both once you're in Asia.
I just got pulled over, two days ago, for not having a drivers license on me in Nongbulampoo at a check point. Obviously my own fault for I had left it in the other wallet at the home in Koodoo. A bribe or offering was not at all possible. A long line of folks waiting to pay for various infractions. Cost me 200bt.
Some years ago I was going like a bat out of hell from Udon Thani to Nongbulampoo and got pulled over. This time the 200 bt offering was graciously accepted.
[QUOTE=Opebo]I also have never been able to give a bribe in Thailand. I have tried many times in Pattaya but they decline. As for here in the upcountry the police rarely stop me, and when they do, they never ask for anything. The worst I can expect is a humiliating hug from the cop in return for letting me off scott free.
As I understand Thai culture, for another adult male to touch you is a sign of his 'social superiority', and a way of publicizing that he is acting as the big brother or benefactor. (Normally only old men give me hugs, walk arm in arm with me, etc - for example, my very aged landlord).
That said I was breathalized in Korat, which was scary.[/QUOTE]
Gents;
I have traveled to Bangkok 5 consecutives long trips for the sake of good time mongering. I have Not traveled to P. I. For this purpose and Maybe Not attempted to Do so. The last trip in Nov. 2008 was caused me some unsecure and displeasure because the closure airports by the PAD yellow shirts people.
However, I still come to BKK. This year and Why is the reason?
The main reason that I always feel at ease and enjoyable with BKK scene just an awesome feeling Free to have a great time that to be in BKK.
Of course, Thailand is No longer a cheap place to visit and P. I. Maybe a more cost affective.
The Bangkok city has now a much better improvements with public transportations on top of inexpensive Taxis.
BKK hotels are plenty and reasonnable rates.
These are a few more reasons keeping Me come back Bangkok
Here's another link -golfasian.com.
Let me know when you going to be in BKK, maybe we'll tee it up. I should be there mid-December through mid-january.
[QUOTE=BruceTea]Great suggestions.
Can you give a general pricing on those golf courses? I'll be going soon but have not begun finding their information on websites.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Is there a cap on how much cash you can bring into Thailand from the US? I looked around online and couldn't find anything. I know it's USD $10,000 coming back into the US, but couldn't find anything on outbound flights.
Log onto US Customs and Border Patrol. Youll find it all there.
[QUOTE=IrishLager]Is there a cap on how much cash you can bring into Thailand from the US? I looked around online and couldn't find anything. I know it's USD $10,000 coming back into the US, but couldn't find anything on outbound flights.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IrishLager]Is there a cap on how much cash you can bring into Thailand from the US? I looked around online and couldn't find anything. I know it's USD $10,000 coming back into the US, but couldn't find anything on outbound flights.[/QUOTE]
10,000 too!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]10,000 too![/QUOTE]
Not sure that is a limit. I think that is just a level at which you must make a declaration.
Here's another good tipping story for your "Tipping" thread, Nic Frenchy ...
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6637437/Couple-arrested-over-theft-for-refusing-to-tip-in-restaurant.html[/url]
So don't forget to tip ... you might end up behind bars.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]So don't forget to tip ... you might end up behind bars.[/QUOTE]
Only in silly America....
[QUOTE=IrishLager]Is there a cap on how much cash you can bring into Thailand from the US? I looked around online and couldn't find anything. I know it's USD $10,000 coming back into the US, but couldn't find anything on outbound flights.[/QUOTE]
Nobody really checks how much cash you bring to other countries. But it is an internationally accepted cap of $10,000 cash.
Sometimes outgoing flights from US you have some guys from homeland security asking questions just before you board the plane. They do not do a thorough check unless they suspect you of doing illegal activities.
each country sets its own limits, and it is not a limit that you cannot take over, it is a limit at which you must declare you have it on your person when you enter the country. it is not "cash" either, it is cash or financial instruments to the value of. eg you must add up travellers cheques value, and cash etc. and that is the total you are carrying.
eg.
singapore the declaration limit is 30,000 singapore dollars or equivalent in foreign currency (eg circa 21. 5k us$), above this you must declare.
thailand the declaration limit is 10,000 us$ or equivalent, above which you must declare it.
failure to declare can lead to confirep001ion, imprisonment and other such nice things, so do not "play with fire".
[quote=sammon]nobody really checks how much cash you bring to other countries. but it is an internationally accepted cap of $10,000 cash.
sometimes outgoing flights from us you have some guys from homeland security asking questions just before you board the plane. they do not do a thorough check unless they suspect you of doing illegal activities.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Pita123]Not sure that is a limit. I think that is just a level at which you must make a declaration.[/QUOTE]
Correct. We have a winner.
Level, cap, Limit, it's all the same.
LBM
Try this. Its the Royal Thai Consulate General in LA. This ia a little too important to leave it to hearsay:
[url]http://www.thai-la.net/visa/visa-index.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=IrishLager]Is there a cap on how much cash you can bring into Thailand from the US? I looked around online and couldn't find anything. I know it's USD $10,000 coming back into the US, but couldn't find anything on outbound flights.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Level, cap, Limit, it's all the same.
LBM[/QUOTE]
How is it the same? A cap or limit implies that you cannot bring in more than that level. What I'm saying is that you are free to bring in more, but you need to declare it when bringing it in. This may lead to some official questions as to the purpose of the money. It may, unofficially, also lead to someone tipping off someone else to follow you and mug you. But you are allowed to bring it in.
[QUOTE=Mistral66]@Scout
your external link doesnt work[/QUOTE]Okay, here's the link to paste into your browser to see the USB dongle
*******.com/yd5tpg3
[QUOTE=Pita123]How is it the same? A cap or limit implies that you cannot bring in more than that level. What I'm saying is that you are free to bring in more, but you need to declare it when bringing it in. This may lead to some official questions as to the purpose of the money. It may, unofficially, also lead to someone tipping off someone else to follow you and mug you. But you are allowed to bring it in.[/QUOTE]
You're being a pain in the ass! You got nothing better to debate about than cap, limit, and level. Who cares just make sure you bring in enough to have a good time. As far as I'm concern it's the same and there's nothing you can say or debate that's going to change my mind. You want to bring in more put 10,000 in one pocket and another 10,000 in the other. See the point that I'm making?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]You're being a pain in the ass! You got nothing better to debate about than cap, limit, and level. Who cares just make sure you bring in enough to have a good time. As far as I'm concern it's the same and there's nothing you can say or debate that's going to change my mind. You want to bring in more put 10,000 in one pocket and another 10,000 in the other. See the point that I'm making?
LBM[/QUOTE]
Sigh. You CAN legally transport more money, the distinction being that over a certain LEVEL/AMOUNT you must report the "transaction" to the authorities(the fact you are transporting cash and/or cash-like securities over a certain value.)
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]You're being a pain in the ass! You got nothing better to debate about than cap, limit, and level. Who cares just make sure you bring in enough to have a good time. As far as I'm concern it's the same and there's nothing you can say or debate that's going to change my mind. You want to bring in more put 10,000 in one pocket and another 10,000 in the other. See the point that I'm making?
LBM[/QUOTE]The point that you are making is that you have no idea what you are talking about and could care less about the actual answer to the question that was asked. The poster didn't ask whether your simple mind cares about how much money they bring in but rather whether the authorities that have some actual power care. The last thing I give a rat's ass about is changing your mind. I do, however, think my TGF may still have some English lesson credits she didn't use. Perhaps you'd like to use them to learn the difference between various words in the English language.
[QUOTE=IrishLager]Is there a cap on how much cash you can bring into Thailand from the US? I looked around online and couldn't find anything. I know it's USD $10,000 coming back into the US, but couldn't find anything on outbound flights.[/QUOTE]Pita123,
Look at the question it is simple and short! it was followed by many simple and short answers but for whatever reason you wanted to be so technical that you took a simple short remark from me regarding levels caps, and turn it into something like it's going to be life or death situation!
The remark was a simple joke! Maybe the only way your simple uptight ass is going to get anything is for me to use " smiley faces " even then your uptight ass still might not get it!
As for having a few English leason left for your TGF, don't waste it on me! I suggest you credit them and find a place to get your colon clean so your uptight got to be 100% definitively technical correct all the time will help you relax some.
Do me a favor put me on " Ignore " so I wouldn't get your uptight ass so upset over a simple remark! Meantime take this with you since I know your uptight ass will know the difference when it comes to these few simple words in the English language since you want to get personal! " Fuck you "
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Pita123,
'simple uptight ass' 'your uptight ass'
'your colon clean' 'uptight' 'your uptight ass' 'your uptight ass' [/QUOTE]Rather too many masculine ass and uptight references there, mate, don't you think?
People might start getting the wrong idea about you.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Only in silly America.[/QUOTE]Very true. A tip should be included in the display price. Ie. $6 dollars. If people wish to tip it is down to them. The worst I have ever seen regarding tiping. Is when I was in Rio. I was leaving shenenigans in ipenema (Rio de janeiro). After paying about 10 us dollars per jack daniels and coke. I had paid my bill and was leaving walking down the stairs with 2 hot brazilian women that I was going for a 3some with. The security stop me by the door and pull out a sign saying tips for security please. I simply smiled and said no obrigado. No thanks. I will tip if some service has been better than it should B. But not everywhere I go.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Pita123,... since you want to get personal! " Fuck you "
LBM[/QUOTE]
OK, I think you guys have just about reached the limit with these insults ...
... or is it the cap?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]" Fuck you "[/QUOTE]
You're not really my type, but thanks for the offer.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Rather too many masculine ass and uptight references there, mate, don't you think?
People might start getting the wrong idea about you;).[/QUOTE]
Now looking back I was a little uptight myself in writing my response! Should have kept it at a specific level, place a limit on the " uptight ass " catagory and in the end just cap my remarks!
Thanks for bringing me back to earth fellas! LBM
Gents;
The Nov. 2009 trip came to end after a two weeks Dream living in the BKK p4p scene lower soi Sukhumvit.
This is my 5th. Consecutive trip to BKK dating back 2007.
The only last trip in Nov, 2008 was totally disaster at the end when the PAD yellow shirts Close both Airports in BKK.
However, this year everything went smoothly and pleasant BKK at all aspect.
The slow economy takes a major affect from the hotel occupancy to the nightly crowd at NEP and soi Cowboy.
However, the Rainbows were still hold very well customers almost pack at everynight. The BF were still at 600baht.
Their ST. Is 2000 baht and LT is 4000 baht which were high comparing to others at 1500baht and 3000 baht.
The Japanese mongers are the Big customers in there and totally enjoy their strong Yen at the moment.
The USD is a weak exchage in the range 32.5 baht.
The BKK entertainments atmosphere were still the Same The new bar, Strikers, is on soi4 across Nana hotel, a decent clean and very good beer price on happy hour.
was shopping in panthip plaza yesterday and saw a usb broadband internet card for a promotional rate of $1300 baht for 60 hours which seemed like a decent price. the lady there told me speed was approx 180k , and could be used all over the country .
i have never seen one here before, and am assuming this works similar to the broadband air cards in the states and europe from the cell providers.
anyone have any experiences , good or bad?
[quote=nocal]was shopping in panthip plaza yesterday and saw a usb broadband internet card for a promotional rate of $1300 baht for 60 hours which seemed like a decent price. the lady there told me speed was approx 180k , and could be used all over the country .
i have never seen one here before, and am assuming this works similar to the broadband air cards in the states and europe from the cell providers.
anyone have any experiences , good or bad?[/quote]i have one, they are so slow. it makes me want to stab my eyes out from the pain of watching each screen load. the only thing it is good for is the airport. it does work pretty much anywhere.
normally i use a dtech prepaid card, 50thb for 3 hours. so your rates are either not bad if it comes with the card, or horrible if that price is for just the airtime.
its edge (which is 2.5g).
speed is about the same as 56k dial up.
true are doing 3g trials in bangkok, but outside of those area's you are limited to 2.5g only.
you can buy a card from ais or dtac.
ais is better if you are roaming to far off places, if you stay in the touristy places the ais or dtac is ok.
ais do and "internet sim" as do dtac.
some links :
[url]http://www.totalaircard.com/categories/internet-sim/[/url]
[url]http://www.thailandguru.com/internet-thailand-adsl-broadband-high-speed.html[/url]
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[quote=nocal]was shopping in panthip plaza yesterday and saw a usb broadband internet card for a promotional rate of $1300 baht for 60 hours which seemed like a decent price. the lady there told me speed was approx 180k , and could be used all over the country .
i have never seen one here before, and am assuming this works similar to the broadband air cards in the states and europe from the cell providers.
anyone have any experiences , good or bad?[/quote]
look, No need for a stupid air card or usb, nowadays most phones have modem capabilities.
Just change the SIM on your mobile when in Thailand, get AIS as they have promotions all the time (I believe now 20 hours GPRS use is 99thb).
Connect your Mobile to your Laptop via USB cable (usually comes with the phone) and voila... you are connected!
After a hard year of screwing off, eating, fucking, drinking and all around debauchery I am due for my yearly vacation. I decided this year 6 weeks of motorcycling around the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam. Good mongering requires one to be in tip top condition and I am certainly not. I would like to spend 2 weeks of my vacation in a health spa. I figure that is just what I need to kick the year off right. Does anyone have any information on spas/programs in either Thailand or the Philippines, like a "Fat Farm" I can attend? Any help is as always appreciated.
Martin from Cartagena
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]look, No need for a stupid air card or usb, nowadays most phones have modem capabilities.
[b]Just change the SIM on your mobile when in Thailand[/b], get AIS as they have promotions all the time (I believe now 20 hours GPRS use is 99thb).
Connect your Mobile to your Laptop via USB cable (usually comes with the phone) and voila... you are connected![/QUOTE]
This is key. Otherwise you too may end up with a 130K baht phone bill. :(
[quote=nocal]was shopping in panthip plaza yesterday and saw a usb broadband internet card for a promotional rate of $1300 baht for 60 hours which seemed like a decent price. the lady there told me speed was approx 180k , and could be used all over the country .
i have never seen one here before, and am assuming this works similar to the broadband air cards in the states and europe from the cell providers.
anyone have any experiences , good or bad?[/quote]
usb 'cards' are widely launcehd in europe by any provider.
i am not entering the rate debate as it requires a full isg size forum itself. but some providers do sell the usb connector at a price around 70€ then you buy the contract with a sim to be isnerted in the usb stick.
it is just a different tool from the prevìous generations of pc cards. so they are going to replace those cards.
a quite common rates are 20€ for 100 monthly hrs of internet connection in your own country (by slots of 15 min, so if you switch off at the 17th minute it is like you consumed 30 min.
But, it will not get you the best package.
Which is why the likes of AIS has an "Internet Sim".
You buy and Internet Sim for a few baht and put it into you USB Dongle, you get the cheapest and largest package for Internet but standard calls are expensive.
Then you have a normal Sim in your phone which is more expensive for Internet (but you are not using it) and gives the cheap rate for normal calls.
Best of "both worlds".
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]look, No need for a stupid air card or usb, nowadays most phones have modem capabilities.
Just change the SIM on your mobile when in Thailand, get AIS as they have promotions all the time (I believe now 20 hours GPRS use is 99thb).
Connect your Mobile to your Laptop via USB cable (usually comes with the phone) and voila. You are connected![/QUOTE]
[quote=the scout]those in need of internet because you have none or bad internet or the hotel charges daily... i bought a truemove sim card from 7-11 for 49 baht. then activated and topped up for 600 baht to get the 599 unlimited 3g for a month (for 799 the wifi spots will be included). works in bkk and patong. when in pattaya you'll probably get the 2g network. you can tether your phone as a modem or buy a dongle at an it place for about 3000 baht.
speeds are decent. 1-2mbps down, 300kbps up. i've been using it for a solid 10 hours and haven't been disconnected.
see coverage areas here
[url]http://www.truemove.com/en/05_service_3g_3.html[/url]
my speed tests
[url]http://speedtest.ookla.com/result/682775219.png[/url]
[url]http://speedtest.ookla.com/result/682796085.png[/url]
[url]http://www.speedtest.net/result/625383169.png[/url]
[url]http://www.speedtest.net/result/627225958.png[/url][/quote]my truemove 3g card works outside of patong. it works down in kata and it's not listed on the site as a coverage area. still getting the same speeds as before. working for the beach is pretty sweet! can't wait to see if this works in pattaya and jomtien.
[url]http://speedtest.ookla.com/result/697151679.png[/url]
after the official launch of 3g in thailand i'd expect to see them put 'limited transfers' (1-2 gigs a month) with overage fees similar to cambodia, especially if they're only charging 599 baht per month.
i haven't used my shitty unreliable tot adsl since i got this sim card. i'm thining of using it in my phone soon (instead of ais 12call) for phone calls, sms, 3g, and then tether my phone to my netbook as a modem.
I want to use my "old" edge network iphone in Thailand. I took it with me in October and the wireless generally worked, but I didn't unlock the phone or get a SIM card or anything.
Is it possible to get my old phone unlocked so I can buy a SIM card once I arrive in Thailand (or can I buy one here?). So I can use my iphone in Thailand with a SIM # there. And still have the wirless internet surfing capacity? P.S. When I went to Thailand a few months ago, the wireless internet on this phone worked fine, but, since I left my new 3G phone home, of course, the phone service wasn't hooked up on the old phone so I had no phone service.
I'm thinking using a SIM card on the old phone and having it unlocked is better than taking my new phone and risk losing it and also having to pay for some sort of international plan and roaming plan for internet usage which would get expensive, right?
If it is a good idea to get it unlocked, is that something I should do in Thailand or here? Thanks for the responses. I'm not too up on these things.
I just want a phone to use while in Thailand and if I can surf wireless, too, with the old iphone and put a sim in it. Why not?
[QUOTE=Redfield10]I want to use my "old" edge network iphone in Thailand. I took it with me in October and the wireless generally worked, but I didn't unlock the phone or get a SIM card or anything.[/QUOTE]
Try this link. I successfully unlocked my old iPhone and now use it in China. It's written for the Mac, but the PC version of the SW should work the same way.
[url]http://www[/url]. iclarified .com/entry/index.php?enid=1557
Dear All,
My friends and I will be taking a 2-week vacation in Pattaya and Bangkok beginning 8 Dec 2009. Since we will be in the country for 2 weeks, we would like to obtain Thailand Pre-paid mobile lines.
Our questions are:
(1) which mobile service provider has the widest coverage with good signal?
(2) which telecommunication shop in Pattaya (our first destination) would you recommend us to go OR should we just purchase them at Bangkok International airport?
(3) usually what is the minimum credit limit allow?
Thanks in advance for your kind assistance.
Cheers
normad2020
[QUOTE=Normad2020]Dear All,
My friends and I will be taking a 2-week vacation in Pattaya and Bangkok beginning 8 Dec 2009. Since we will be in the country for 2 weeks, we would like to obtain Thailand Pre-paid mobile lines.
Our questions are:
(1) which mobile service provider has the widest coverage with good signal?
(2) which telecommunication shop in Pattaya (our first destination) would you recommend us to go OR should we just purchase them at Bangkok International airport?
(3) usually what is the minimum credit limit allow?
Thanks in advance for your kind assistance.
Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]
I normally get mine from a stand at the aiport I use 12call never had any problems you can also them at the 7/11s
On the ATM charges, it seems the only reliable one is Bank of Ayudhya (Krungsiri), the Yellow ATM's.
All machines are now either free with 0 charge, or 15 baht.
No Yellow ones I have found in various places and cities are the old 150 baht charge.
However, all the other banks, including SCB who said they were going to 15 baht, that I have tried still have 150 baht charges.
Use the Yellow ones with your Visa DEBIT (not credit) card.
[QUOTE=Normad2020]Dear All,
My friends and I will be taking a 2-week vacation in Pattaya and Bangkok beginning 8 Dec 2009. Since we will be in the country for 2 weeks, we would like to obtain Thailand Pre-paid mobile lines.
Our questions are:
(1) which mobile service provider has the widest coverage with good signal?
(2) which telecommunication shop in Pattaya (our first destination) would you recommend us to go OR should we just purchase them at Bangkok International airport?
(3) usually what is the minimum credit limit allow?
Thanks in advance for your kind assistance.
Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]
1-2-call sim card is my answer from any 7-11 or Family Mart mini store. 50 baht sim card if you are not going to use it again otherwise buy the 300 baht one that lasts for one year without charging it.
Buy 300 baht air time. Use 09 (or is it 9 i forget. Ask the sales person for that) before the country code for very cheap international calls as well. Very cheap beleive me. Don't think of using your country's sim card for your calls back home. 1-2-call is the cheapest way using the prefix above.
My two baht.
[QUOTE=El Greco]... Use 09 (or is it 9 i forget. Ask the sales person for that) before the country code for very cheap international calls as well...[/QUOTE]
It's 009 (before the country code) actually.
[QUOTE=El Greco]1-2-call sim card is my answer [get it] from any 7-11 or Family Mart mini store. Don't think of using your country's sim card for your calls back home. 1-2-call is the cheapest way using the prefix [009] above. My two baht.[/QUOTE]One of the first things I do when I land in BKK is buy a local sim card at 7-11. It serves as your local phone number to give to girls you are interested in seeing again. They love to call and make dates.
For long distance, I also recommend Skype. If you have a netbook with you, all Skype to Skype video calls are free. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Calling friends on Skype while a sexy Thai girl is parading around your hotel room semi-nude giving you kisses and what not says it all!
i've visited los twice, hua hin seems to fit my criteria for a long term (1+ years) stay. i'd like to know if i missed other towns in my not so thorough research. i visited bangkok & pattaya on the first trip (this was before i knew that long term exposure to air pollution made me sick), phuket island (including phuket town), krabi and hua hin on the second one during last august.
my criteria:
low air pollution. this is #1 - big city 3rd world polluted air gives me respiratory illnesses. northern thailand and bangkok are out.
not a sex tourist disneyland. pattaya was fun for 3 nites on my first trip, i was sick of phuket after 1 nite on the last trip.
a bar girl area aimed at foreign customers.
enough foreign tourism infrastructure that i can: 1) satisfy some decent quality western food cravings, and 2) not too much trouble finding locals who speak english well enough to transact non-trivial purchases or arangements (like leaseing a place or buying a motorcycle).
enough apartment / condo rental stock that i'll have a choice of places within any specific price range, assuming i don't arrive just before or during the peak tourist season.
dsl speed bandwith or higher. american cable channels or english language dvds easily available.
[quote=further]my criteria:
low air pollution.
not a sex tourist disneyland.
a bar girl area aimed at foreign customers. enough foreign tourism infrastructures that i can:
1) satisfy some decent quality western food cravings
2) not too much trouble finding locals who speak english.
enough apartment / condo rental stock that i'll have a choice of places within any specific price range.
dsl speed bandwidth or higher.
american cable channels or english language dvds easily available.[/quote]hey further, you don't ask for much do you? nevertheless, i've got one city that matches all your requirements: hong kong.
Thanks Mate....much obliged.
Just a question, if I need to call the local girl's mobile number I just dial direct? Example 081288****?
Tomorrow I will be in Pattaya.......Adult Disneyland here I cum !!!!!
Cheers
normad2020
[QUOTE=El Greco]1-2-call sim card is my answer from any 7-11 or Family Mart mini store. 50 baht sim card if you are not going to use it again otherwise buy the 300 baht one that lasts for one year without charging it.
Buy 300 baht air time. Use 09 (or is it 9 i forget. Ask the sales person for that) before the country code for very cheap international calls as well. Very cheap beleive me. Don't think of using your country's sim card for your calls back home. 1-2-call is the cheapest way using the prefix above.
My two baht.[/QUOTE]
Much obliged for the advise.
Will be in Pattaya tomorrow.....can't wait.....
Cheers
normad2020
[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]I normally get mine from a stand at the aiport I use 12call never had any problems you can also them at the 7/11s[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Normad2020]... Just a question, if I need to call the local girl's mobile number I just dial direct? Example 081288****?[/QUOTE]
Once you're in the LOS, yes.
[quote=further]i've visited los twice, hua hin seems to fit my criteria for a long term (1+ years) stay. i'd like to know if i missed other towns in my not so thorough research. i visited bangkok & pattaya on the first trip (this was before i knew that long term exposure to air pollution made me sick), phuket island (including phuket town), krabi and hua hin on the second one during last august.
my criteria:
low air pollution. this is #1 - big city 3rd world polluted air gives me respiratory illnesses. northern thailand and bangkok are out.
not a sex tourist disneyland. pattaya was fun for 3 nites on my first trip, i was sick of phuket after 1 nite on the last trip.
a bar girl area aimed at foreign customers.
enough foreign tourism infrastructure that i can: 1) satisfy some decent quality western food cravings, and 2) not too much trouble finding locals who speak english well enough to transact non-trivial purchases or arangements (like leaseing a place or buying a motorcycle).
enough apartment / condo rental stock that i'll have a choice of places within any specific price range, assuming i don't arrive just before or during the peak tourist season.
dsl speed bandwith or higher. american cable channels or english language dvds easily available.[/quote]
indeed, hua hin seems to fit your criteria. maybe koh samui too even if dsl speed bandwidth might be relatively expensive in some remote areas, it can usually be had at a reasonable price almost everywhere else on the island.
[QUOTE=Goyave]It's 009 (before the country code) actually.[/QUOTE]I got this as promotion till 31 DEC. 0050+ country etc. 18 minutes to switzerland 100 baht today.
[QUOTE=Further]Low air pollution. This is #1 - big city 3rd world polluted air gives me respiratory illnesses. Northern thailand and Bangkok are out.
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Polution in BKK I understand, but polution in Northern Thailand?
[QUOTE=Daddy San]Pollution in BKK I understand, but pollution in Northern Thailand?[/QUOTE]Yes, air quality is very bad. I was there last February. I rented a car and did the Chiang Mai. Mae Hong Son circuit for a couple of weeks. The farmers illegally burn off their fields at this time of the year. The resulting smog and pollution cloud out the sun! You can't get a clear photograph of Doi Suthep. Some newspaper editorials complain about it and ask why the police refuse to enforce the law.
After Chiang Mai, I travelled to Siem Reap and saw blue skies and the sun! Far less pollution in Angkor! More people should be outraged.
[QUOTE=Daddy San]Polution in BKK I understand, but polution in Northern Thailand?[/QUOTE]It's smoke, not industrial air pollution. This quote explains it:
The dry season is when many hilltribes have traditionally cleared patches of forest for cultivation, but this is now exaccerbated by burning initiated by lowland communities and some agricultural buring. Additionally, many more, similar fires are burning in the surrounding countries.
I've not been to the north, I've only seen the Thai's governmen'ts air pollution measurements. [url]http://www.Pcd.go.th[/url] The particulate matter is bad during the dry season.
I understand now.
I spent 2 weeks in Northern Thailand 2 years ago, but never noticed the smoke.
After BKK, it was pure country air!
But then I had a TGF with me, who kept my mind occupied with other things -:)
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]
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For long distance, I also recommend Skype. If you have a netbook with you, all Skype to Skype video calls are free. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Calling friends on Skype while a sexy Thai girl is parading around your hotel room semi-nude giving you kisses and what not says it all![/QUOTE]
...as long as you do not forget the girl is parading around, even dressed, when you video call your wife! LOL
That cheap video call will cost you a fortune! :)
[QUOTE=Bionicman]...as long as you do not forget the girl is parading around, even dressed, when you video call your wife! LOL
That cheap video call will cost you a fortune! :)[/QUOTE]I won't say I have never been so inebriated that this couldn’t have happened in a past life, but the chances are absolute zero, that I would do something this dumb in this lifetime.
A far greater risk is if while conferencing a friend, HIS GIRFRIEND wanders into the room and sees what you are up to. It pisses her off and SHE tells your girlfriend/wife the lowdown. You come home and the get the big bada big boom! If this should happen, all I can say is I hope the Thai girl was hot and sexy i.e. it was worthwhile.
Seen lots of questions and posts about setting up a local bank account in the past.
If you are a regular tourist then it makes sense, as you can use Internet banking from anywhere in the world, you can transfer money in from home and then withdraw with your local ATM card whilst on holiday etc.
(Just remember to send money in your currency and let Bangkok Bank change it when it arrives. Never get your local bank to change the money and send Thai baht. Or you will get a bad exchange rate due to THO and THB differences (thats Thai Baht Overseas and Thailand Baht Onshore))
It avoids the hassles of Visa Debt/Credit card charges, having to carry amounts of foreign currency or trouble with TC's etc.
Bangkok Bank has now a nice English language brochure detailing all the options available to those with work permits, long stay, tourists etc. And I have scanned a couple of pages for peoples info.
Link is below which will go to the webpage with it on, and you can save the jpg file and then zoom on it:
[url]http://yfrog.com/1454690758j[/url]
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[QUOTE=The Pro]If you are a regular tourist then it makes sense, as you can use Internet banking from anywhere in the world, you can transfer money in from home and then withdraw with your local ATM card whilst on holiday etc.
[/QUOTE]
Actually, the brochure you scanned says that tourists can't use Internet Banking.
[QUOTE=Pita123]Actually, the brochure you scanned says that tourists can't use Internet Banking.[/QUOTE]Yes, but once the account is set up, they do not deny people the Internet banking.
All you need is an "address in Thailand" to get Ibanking set up.
EG Apartment xxx, xxx Condo etc..
Away you go, nothing is via post then, everything is done over Ibanking.
[QUOTE=The Pro]Seen lots of questions and posts about setting up a local bank account in the past.
If you are a regular tourist then it makes sense, as you can use Internet banking from anywhere in the world, you can transfer money in from home and then withdraw with your local ATM card whilst on holiday etc.
(Just remember to send money in your currency and let Bangkok Bank change it when it arrives. Never get your local bank to change the money and send Thai baht. Or you will get a bad exchange rate due to THO and THB differences (thats Thai Baht Overseas and Thailand Baht Onshore))
It avoids the hassles of Visa Debt/Credit card charges, having to carry amounts of foreign currency or trouble with TC's etc.
Bangkok Bank has now a nice English language brochure detailing all the options available to those with work permits, long stay, tourists etc. And I have scanned a couple of pages for peoples info.
Link is below which will go to the webpage with it on, and you can save the jpg file and then zoom on it:
[url]http://yfrog.com/1454690758j[/url]
.[/QUOTE]
Fortunately I opened a Bangkok Bank account years ago.
But they do not provide me with internet banking. I can of course use internet banking on foreign bank to transfer money into my thai account.
Now its not easy for a tourist. You are required to have a work visa for Thailand I believe, to be able to open a bank account in Thailand. But someone please correct me if I am wrong. My info could be a few months out of date.
I do agree with one thing. Don't change your foreign currency to Thai Baht overseas. You will get ripped off very badly. This applies to transfers too.
Transfer in your foreign currency and conversion to Baht can happen in Thailand at a much better rate.
[QUOTE=Pita123]Actually, the brochure you scanned says that tourists can't use Internet Banking.[/QUOTE]
That is obvious... you need a Visa + Work Permit for that... go figure.
Can anyone assist with yacht berthing/marina's on the CP river.
I have searched on the internet, unsuccessfully to date.
Also, are there any marina's outside Phuket town area?
Thanks in advance guys. And girls?
Hmmnn, wonder how many members are female?
Tuck
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]That is obvious. You need a Visa + Work Permit for that. Go figure.[/QUOTE]Wrong, all you need for Internet Banking is a local Thai address. EG a condo, apartment, house, girlfriends house etc.
From the brochure you can see that Long Stay Foreigners can use internet banking.
No need for a work permit, thats nonsense and rubbish.
Tourists can use Internet Banking, all you need is to set up your account, use a local address, next time you visit go there (not on your first trip) and ask them to set you up with Internet Banking. Its easy and I know loads of people who have done it.
[QUOTE=M P Lurker]Now its not easy for a tourist. You are required to have a work visa for Thailand I believe, to be able to open a bank account in Thailand. But someone please correct me if I am wrong. My info could be a few months out of date.
[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=963389#post963389[/url]
I recently opened an account in about 15 minutes. With internet banking.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]That is obvious... you need a Visa + Work Permit for that... go figure.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I believe you do need a long term visa, but not necessarily a work permit. (I don't have a work permit, but do have a retirement visa and am allowed internet banking, which is great for paying telephone, internet, and sattellite dish services.
A tourist on a 30 day entry visa can open a bank account for 200 baht using his hotel as proof of residence. He must go to immigration and get a residence certificate with a photo to submit to the bank.
The convenience of an ATM card alone is worth having a Thai bank account, and you don't need internet banking in order to wire funds from your home country account to your Thai bank.
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck]Can anyone assist with yacht berthing/marina's on the CP river.
I have searched on the internet, unsuccessfully to date.
Also, are there any marina's outside Phuket town area?
Thanks in advance guys. And girls?
Hmmnn, wonder how many members are female?
Tuck[/QUOTE]
Phuket has 4 western style marinas.
Yacht Haven
Boat Lagoon
Royal Phuket
Ao Po
CP River - zero. I would imaging berthing would require some inside knowledge, a local contact of some sort. It certainly would not be for me.
There is also a marina at Pattaya now.
You are aware that there are 2 different coasts that are many many miles apart by water, right? Phuket on the Andaman, Pattaya on the Gulf.
c4t
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Yes, I believe you do need a long term visa, but not necessarily a work permit. (I don't have a work permit, but do have a retirement visa and am allowed internet banking, which is great for paying telephone, internet, and sattellite dish services.
A tourist on a 30 day entry visa can open a bank account for 200 baht using his hotel as proof of residence. He must go to immigration and get a residence certificate with a photo to submit to the bank.
The convenience of an ATM card alone is worth having a Thai bank account, and you don't need internet banking in order to wire funds from your home country account to your Thai bank.[/QUOTE]Different banks handle that in a different way. With Kasikorn Bank you can get internet banking instantly and don't need anything but your passport and a Thai address (Hotel will be fine). You will also need a Thai mobile number (preferably with roaming enabled when you are outside Thailand) to receive one time pins by SMS (needed to transfer funds to third parties).
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]Phuket has 4 western style marinas.
Yacht Haven
Boat Lagoon
Royal Phuket
Ao Po
CP River. Zero. I would imaging berthing would require some inside knowledge, a local contact of some sort. It certainly would not be for me.
There is also a marina at Pattaya now.
You are aware that there are 2 different coasts that are many many miles apart by water, right? Phuket on the Andaman, Pattaya on the Gulf.
C4t[/QUOTE]Thanks,
Yes I am aware of the Malay Peninsula getting in the way..
I am going to ship my boat over, basically decided on phuket, but was unsure what BKK offered.
Trying to save time on my Feb scouting mission, don't want to cut too deeply into the mongering time.
Much appreciate your input.
Tuck
I have an interview for a job in Bangkok. Sadly 1st interview is in UK so no trip yet!
But what should I ask about life in BKK to sound clued up. I don't know yet what salary will be and there is some sort of accommodation provided but no idea what or where.
Clearly I won't be talking about Nana/Cowboy and the difference between oily/soapy!
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Different banks handle that in a different way. With Kasikorn Bank you can get internet banking instantly and don't need anything but your passport and a Thai address (Hotel will be fine). You will also need a Thai mobile number (preferably with roaming enabled when you are outside Thailand) to receive one time pins by SMS (needed to transfer funds to third parties).[/QUOTE]Exactly, we have too many people who know nothing saying you need work permits or residance certificates. You do not..
The rules are there as per the info posted on the BB pamphlet.
HOWEVER, most bank staff do not give a flying monkey and will let anyone open an account with internet banking with just a passport and some money and a hotel address.
I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but my admiration for Tiger Woods has not diminished one little bit since I’ve found out he’s one of our own in the magnificent hobby. In fact, it has probably grown exponentially considering the balls the man must possess to have thought for one second that he could get away with all that mongering without getting caught. (You ‘da man, Tiger !!! In the hole !!! In the hole !!! )
Of course, I do have a slight problem with the fact that he over paid, tipped too much, and the inflationary effect that might have on the p4p market. The latest news reveals that he often paid $10,000 USD per night, and as much as $50,000 for a weekend – per girl – for as many as four or more at a time. And all these bimbo’s, so far as I can tell, are no better looking for sure than the puppies I’m enjoying for $15 a pop.
We’re told that he likes to go bareback as well – just doesn’t like condoms. I understand that. Like I said, the guy has balls, doesn’t he? Who would have thought that a man showing such impeccable judgment on the golf course could display such dismal decision making off it? Just one more case of the little head taking over for the big one, I reckon.
Well, I feel sorry for him and wish it never had happened. Now Tiger says he’s going to take an indefinite hiatus from golf. Shit !!! I won’t even watch tournaments unless he’s playing. I’m selfish. I want him back now!
Why can’t a married man have a little fun now and then without the whole world crushing down on him?
[QUOTE=Daddy07]I don't know about the rest of you guys, but my admiration for Tiger Woods has not diminished one little bit since I've found out he's one of our own in the magnificent hobby. In fact, it has probably grown exponentially considering the balls the man must possess to have thought for one second that he could get away with all that mongering without getting caught. (You 'da man, Tiger! In the hole! In the hole!)
Of course, I do have a slight problem with the fact that he over paid, tipped too much, and the inflationary effect that might have on the p4p market. The latest news reveals that he often paid $10, 000 USD per night, and as much as $50, 000 for a weekend – per girl – for as many as four or more at a time. And all these bimbo's, so far as I can tell, are no better looking for sure than the puppies I'm enjoying for $15 a pop.
We're told that he likes to go bareback as well – just doesn't like condoms. I understand that. Like I said, the guy has balls, doesn't he? Who would have thought that a man showing such impeccable judgment on the golf course could display such dismal decision making off it? Just one more case of the little head taking over for the big one, I reckon.
Well, I feel sorry for him and wish it never had happened. Now Tiger says he's going to take an indefinite hiatus from golf. Shit! I won't even watch tournaments unless he's playing. I'm selfish. I want him back now!
Why can't a married man have a little fun now and then without the whole world crushing down on him?[/QUOTE]Well said! IMHO his real mistake was getting married (unless he has a REALLY WATERTIGHT pre nup!) with outside of golf interests such as these.
The old proverb applies
" If it flies, floats or fucks, rent it! "
Although it seems that in this instance he got bitten!
[QUOTE=The Pro]Exactly, we have too many people who know nothing saying you need work permits or residance certificates. You do not..[/QUOTE]
The Pro,
YEs, you do know everything, we know that.
Now how would you explain why they asked me for my work permit for subscribing to internet banking? Maybe you work in a bank?
Surely if your knowledge of Banks is the same as your P4P knowledge, then you won't mind if I seek a second opinion?
[QUOTE=Daddy07]
Well, I feel sorry for him and wish it never had happened. Now Tiger says he’s going to take an indefinite hiatus from golf. Shit !!! I won’t even watch tournaments unless he’s playing. I’m selfish. I want him back now! [/QUOTE]
Fuck Tiger woods. Why feel sorry for him? he played and got screwed, now he has to live with the consequences of what he's done.
The whole media feeding frenzy surrounding Tiger is nearly as funny as that when Hugh Grant was caught been given a in-car BJ by a $20 dollar crack ho:D.
What did Woods wife expect for fuck sake? His mix of African American and Thai hardly holds out a lot of hope for marital fidelity.
[QUOTE=Kiwi 69]Well said! IMHO his real mistake was getting married (unless he has a REALLY WATERTIGHT pre nup!) with outside of golf interests such as these.[/QUOTE]Wife & kids gives him an image companies want for a spokesman plus they give him stability in his life that probably makes his golf better. Or at least doesn't diminish it. Between endorsements, appearance fees, tournament winnings, bonus and course design fees he has earned $ 1 Billion.
There are only two brass rings left in golf for him. Career leader on number of majors won and all four majors in a single season. If the current shit hitting the fan tarnishes his image sufficiently, the public, media and sponsors will pay much less attention to him when he returns to golf. Which will make golfing easier for him as he closes in on Jack's record. Cracy like a fox or just another guy who let the little head make his decisions?
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck]Can anyone assist with yacht berthing/marina's on the CP river.
I have searched on the internet, unsuccessfully to date.
Also, are there any marina's outside Phuket town area?
Thanks in advance guys. And girls?
Hmmnn, wonder how many members are female?
Tuck[/QUOTE]
Malay's friends of mine having yacht confirmed me that certain areas of the malay coast are quite dangerous in terms of mdoern pirates.
Just my penny for the thoughts.
A useful site for people with European credit cards, to work out what exchange rate you will get charged on any visa credit card purchases in Thailand or other countries.
Just fill in your card currency, the currency of the charge, the charge amount and the date of the charge and it will give you a "rough" estimate of the exchange rate your purchase will be converted at.
[url]http://www.visaeurope.com/fxcalculator/main.jsp[/url]
Tiger only wants a hole in one at a time :) The latest joke was if he plays the front nine and then follows with the back nine? He's 1/2 THAI what do you expect?
We all know whose fault this Tiger thing was.
It was George Bush's fault.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Tiger only wants a hole in one at a time :) The latest joke was if he plays the front nine and then follows with the back nine? He's 1/2 THAI what do you expect?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Daddy07]...
Why can’t a married man have a little fun now and then without the whole world crushing down on him?[/QUOTE]
Not the whole world, IMHO... If this story had happened in France (for instance), it would (almost) have been a non-event... Most of the Frogs are probably just amused and think that Tiger Wood's adultery is not a big deal, but they are also certainly amazed by all the fuss this story generates in the US of A, and that's why it has also made the headlines for a few days on French news; in France, (almost) nobody would give a damn about Tiger Wood's cheating on his wife, but (almost) everybody is laughing about the consequences this story has in the US of A.
What's the difference between a golf ball and a Cadillac Escalade?
........Tiger can drive a golf ball 350 yards.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Fuck Tiger woods. Why feel sorry for him? he played and got screwed, now he has to live with the consequences of what he's done.[/QUOTE]
Because the fact that there are any consequences to that sort of behavior is testimony to the illness of our sick, sad society. Ole Fatty Mama is chewing up poor Tiger. Why? Simply because he has balls.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]What's the difference between a golf ball and a Cadillac Escalade?
........Tiger can drive a golf ball 350 yards.[/QUOTE]
In spirit of X-mas: What is difference between Santa Clause and Tiger Woods?
Answer: Santa stops after third Ho...
[QUOTE=Further]Wife & kids gives him an image companies want for a spokesman plus they give him stability in his life that probably makes his golf better. Or at least doesn't diminish it. Between endorsements, appearance fees, tournament winnings, bonus and course design fees he has earned $ 1 Billion.
There are only two brass rings left in golf for him. Career leader on number of majors won and all four majors in a single season. If the current shit hitting the fan tarnishes his image sufficiently, the public, media and sponsors will pay much less attention to him when he returns to golf. Which will make golfing easier for him as he closes in on Jack's record. Cracy like a fox or just another guy who let the little head make his decisions?[/QUOTE]I remember a friend who follows golf making a comment to the effect that " Tiger's game dropped off around the time he got married to that Swedish c**t " or words to that effect. I don't follow golf, so I only mention it as another point of view. I saw photos on a Dutch site of 6 or 7 of his supposed side fucks, I wouldn't want any of them,
all fucking dogs, especially the porn stars !!
One hears so many horror stories of married guys whose wives turn off sex after oozing out 1-2 kids, so hubby has to look elsewhere for fun and satisfaction ( it's too expensive to fuck her off !) , I wonder if Tiger is one of them?
As someone else said , its only because he's American, (with their fucked up " morality? "), that its such a big deal. I hope he can come back with a " fuck you all " attitude (a different girl at each event ! ) and go back to the top.
I think it was James Hunt who wore a T shirt " 69 (or was it "sex"?), breakfast of champions ! "
[QUOTE=El Greco][url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=963389#post963389[/url]
I recently opened an account in about 15 minutes. With internet banking.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that. A couple of years back I tried a lot of banks in BKK with little success, so that's valuable info.
Hi people,
Before sailing to Thailand I'd like to complete my education with some useful reading, so I'm looking for this book by Bill Williams called "Pattaya Bar Girls Report".
Anyone can help?
Please pm me.
Cheers!
How is it possible to put together a list with the best bj bars of Bangkok and Pattaya?
I'd appreciate opinionated postings.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]What did Woods wife expect for fuck sake? His mix of African American and Thai hardly holds out a lot of hope for marital fidelity.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but I fail to get the relationship between racial composition and marital fidelity. The last time that I checked, every group had problems. Personally, the media needs to return to covering the real news, and we need to return to talking about P4P.
[QUOTE=Nabucco]How is it possible to put together a list with the best bj bars of Bangkok and Pattaya?
I'd appreciate opinionated postings.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure there are that many out there that a list is necessary.
In Bangkok, SOL (the Star of light, Patpong2) is still the best BJ bar. Both in terms of girls and experience.
Pattaya, I don't know.
You can also have your knob polished at many different bars in BKK (not BJ bars), you just need to know where and who ;)
No, you failed to make sense of nonsense...
[QUOTE=Professor 1]I'm sorry but I fail to get the relationship between racial composition and marital fidelity. The last time that I checked, every group had problems. Personally, the media needs to return to covering the real news, and we need to return to talking about P4P.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=White Whale]In spirit of X-mas: What is difference between Santa Clause and Tiger Woods?
Answer: Santa stops after third Ho...[/QUOTE]
Sorry not too much difference between Santa and Tiger! They both stop on the 3rd Ho Ho and then move on to the next house and start up the Ho Ho again!
Ho Ho Ho, LBM
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Hi people,
Before sailing to Thailand I'd like to complete my education with some useful reading, so I'm looking for this book by Bill Williams called "Pattaya Bar Girls Report".
Anyone can help?
Please pm me.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Not sure about your location but you can order it online from [url]http://pattayabargirlsreport.com/[/url] or [url]http://www.pattaya-bar-girls.com/arep/[/url]
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Not sure about your location but you can order it online from [url]http://pattayabargirlsreport.com/[/url] or [url]http://www.pattaya-bar-girls.com/arep/[/url][/QUOTE]I know... actually I was looking for a cracked version. It's just an e-book, so better have it free from some fellow willing to send me an attach rather than paying for it.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]I know... actually I was looking for a cracked version. It's just an e-book, so better have it free from some fellow willing to send me an attach rather than paying for it.[/QUOTE]Let me guess. You're worried about getting ripped off by a Pattaya bar girl and yet you have no problems ripping off the author of the book. Just what Thailand needs, more cheap punters who can't afford a $37 book.
[QUOTE=M P Lurker]Thanks for that. A couple of years back I tried a lot of banks in BKK with little success, so that's valuable info.[/QUOTE]
Glad to be of some help to you.
I've learned so many new things and places from your posts.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]I know... actually I was looking for a cracked version. It's just an e-book, so better have it free from some fellow willing to send me an attach rather than paying for it.[/QUOTE]
Are you working for free? Just for the pleasure of doing it?
[QUOTE=Gfighta]Let me guess. You're worried about getting ripped off by a Pattaya bar girl and yet you have no problems ripping off the author of the book. Just what Thailand needs, more cheap punters who can't afford a $37 book.[/QUOTE]
Anyone here that hasn't bought bootleg software or movies at Panthip or MBK?
I agree in principle, but I doubt that anyone here is not guilty of doing the same. No reason to come down on the chap.
[QUOTE=Pita123]Anyone here that hasn't bought bootleg software or movies at Panthip or MBK?[/QUOTE]
You'd have to be a moron to buy at MBK and Pantip nowadays... it's all available for free on Torrents :D
Todays Bankok Post...
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/30100/bangkok-sleazy-street-of-shame[/url]
Panthip is an amazing mall and should not be missed. Where else in the world can you find stores selling legitimate items right next to bootleggers?
Forget about the porn that's small potatoes. I advise all to check out the software. A bootleg copy of Adobe CS4 sells for around 500bt. You got to hand it to those Thai pirates. The key generator is pure genius. The program works perfectly except every once in a while it prompts to install an update. Cancel the update and you stay go to go.
Call me cheap if you want, but I enjoy saving $2000 and passing on the savings to all my friends back home. What a great gift. Is it ethical? No of course not. But that does not bother me in the least? Are you kidding? I am sure that Adobe, the Thai and the US governments know all about this. It’s up to them to fix the laws and plug the leaks. But until these organizations get their shit together, I am going to take advantage of the loophole. Merry Christmas everybody.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You'd have to be a moron to buy at MBK and Pantip nowadays. It's all available for free on Torrents.[/QUOTE]Not really. Made a research on utorrent, got to torrent matrix and find out you have no access to direct download, but you are supposed to register for unlimited downloads paying x per month. So, in the end you pay anyway.
I do not have much confidence with downloading and I usually don't do it just because I am an old fashion collector that uses to BUY every cd, dvd and book. I do not even have an I-pod. Everything on my shelves is original. So, I think I respect work of artists and copyright in general.
On the other hand, Bionicman, I don't call "work" charging 27$ for a short guide in electronic format. And besides, Gfighta, I can easily afford it, but in a world where everyone rips everything I don't feel guilty for a one time rip of few sheets of paper.
Of course, one can say that there is a work beyond that, there is a value and a price to pay to be honest. I may agree, and just want be sure the book is woth 27$ that Bill want to charge me. Can you give me an accurate review about it? Is it actually useful, do you recommend it? I'll buy it!
Or would you just do me a favor in avoiding to comment and criticize and wasting my time to answer? After all, I have just asked to pm me anyone who may want help. If you don't agree with my request just ignore it and avoid to call "cheap" someone you don't even know.
[QUOTE=Gfighta]...no problems ripping off the author of the book. Just what Thailand needs, more cheap punters who can't afford a $37 book.[/QUOTE]
At $37 for a downloaded book, it sounds to me like the author/vendor are the ones doing the ripping off.
What Thailand doesn't need is suckers who splash cash all over the place and drive up the price of everything from food to lodging to books to temporary companionship.
Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?
IMHO!
[QUOTE=Naughty]At $37 for a downloaded book, it sounds to me like the author/vendor are the ones doing the ripping off.
What Thailand doesn't need is suckers who splash cash all over the place and drive up the price of everything from food to lodging to books to temporary companionship.
Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?
IMHO![/QUOTE]Remember what is expensive to you may be cheap for someone else. Just because others earn more than you and can afford to pay more doesn't make them a sucker.
[QUOTE=Naughty]At $37 for a downloaded book, it sounds to me like the author/vendor are the ones doing the ripping off.
What Thailand doesn't need is suckers who splash cash all over the place and drive up the price of everything from food to lodging to books to temporary companionship.
Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?
IMHO![/QUOTE]Naughty,
Absolutely correct. Why should the author get paid for writing his book? He doesn't need any milk...look, it's just a download, not even production costs for a physical book.
And beware of those overpaying and tipping tourists. They are a pain in the ass. What follows out of their stupid behaviour is that the prices for us locals increase. Get the tourists out of Thailand!
We have this old [yellow] elites here in the country, and they have things under control. Isaan, the resource reservoir for cheap labour (men) and cheap sex (women) in Thailand. We really don't need you cash-rich bastards here in Thailand.
What we need is a thread "Cheap Charly's Guide to Thailand!"
Giotto
PS.: Good morning, ISG!
[QUOTE=Giotto]What we need is a thread "Cheap Charly's Guide to Thailand!"[/QUOTE]
Jesus did you wake up to coal in your stocking? Or was your bed that friggin cold?
NO WE DO NOT NEED A CHEAP CHARLY"S GUIDE TO THAILAND we have enough of that already. But what the hell is going on with the economy, I must have had every girl come out of the woodwork the last few days telling me how much they love me and wait to see me (including a certain lady from years ago from your establishment).
Surely we know they are missing the wallet most of all. Back to the point at hand, there are copies of everything floating around on line if you are not a combination of being a lazy bastard and a cheap charly anyone could find it including a 12 year old (I did prove this point also BTW).
I guess while many girls have a "Tramp Stamp" tattoo now a days many of the folks here have the "I'm A Cheap Charlie" Stamp on their foreheads :D
Don't worry Giotto the ATM arrives back to SEA in a few days once Manila mission is completed... but unfortunately will be spending most the time outside BKK. Not sure if that is good news or bad news for you.
i think its the difference between living in the ulta controlled western world, where women wear the trousers, men are intimidated and cuckold and unable to be men and you must obey all the rules laid out by ultra corrupt politicos.
here in thailand you control your own destiny, its more like the wild west. you do not want to get a speeding ticket, pay the policeman direct. you want to see the latest movie, download it and burn to cd. you want the latest software, download it.
even panthip in terms of software and movies is now just a "tourist trap" as anyone living here can easily download everything they want, without any fear of ever being brought to task for it.
my 64g ipod touch is full of the latest movies and albums and all downloaded for free. i am not into ebooks so cannot help with that one.
if the artists do not like their stuff being downloaded for free they have a simple choice, and that is not to produce any more. welcome to the internet and globalisation. its funny how people only like the bits of that make them more money, and dislike the bits that cost them money.
as a kid, how many people used to put a tape recorder next to the radio to tape their favourite songs?
this is all people are doing now, as they have for ages, but the technology for getting hold of it has moved on considerably.
[quote=gfighta]let me guess. you're worried about getting ripped off by a pattaya bar girl and yet you have no problems ripping off the author of the book. just what thailand needs, more cheap punters who can't afford a $37 book.[/quote]
Earlier this year, got a message on Tagged / Dia or some site from a Thai lady, working BKK, aged 39 with no pic attached. Made a polite reply, and we had some chats on YM/MSN etc. She sent a pic and was ok for her age (slim, no kids) and keen to meet. I had a BKK business trip and she was waiting for me in my hotel, and within ten minutes of arrival were doing the deed. She worked in Paragon. Later that night, dropped her at BTS and went mongering elsewhere. Never saw her again and no money exchanged.
Later this year, got a DIA message from a 36 year old Thai lady in CR, no kids with no pics. We got chatting, and the pics were nice. After 2 months I had a BKK trip and we met and had a great time with her. We then went to Singapore together on a business trip and I went to CR also. Good times but then she got a bit weird so I backed off.
Now I'm in same situation. New DIA girl 38, sends me email. We get chatting and her pics are also ok for her age. Slim no kids. Now sending me lots of hot emails about her g string collections. I suspect we will be bonking also within 10 minutes of meeting.
My question here. Is this a common trend. I feel like I'm the one being picked up by these girls but I'm not shouting resistance. I'm over 50 but look fine, and probably safe for these ladies. Anyone had similar experiences?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You'd have to be a moron to buy at MBK and Pantip nowadays... it's all available for free on Torrents :D[/QUOTE]
:) My time is worth more to me than what it takes to find and download on torrents. Well, also I'm just a lazy basterd.
[QUOTE=Pita123]:) My time is worth more to me than what it takes to find and download on torrents. Well, also I'm just a lazy basterd.[/QUOTE]
I see, but then again, a lot of the stuff isn't available @ MBK or Pantip... but available on Torrents.
Do what I do, I give my IT guy the list of stuff I want and he gives me the files/music/movies on a thumb drive when it's downloaded. I'm a lazy bastard myself :D
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I see, but then again, a lot of the stuff isn't available @ MBK or Pantip... but available on Torrents.
Do what I do, I give my IT guy the list of stuff I want and he gives me the files/music/movies on a thumb drive when it's downloaded. I'm a lazy bastard myself :D[/QUOTE]
I have that option, but I rarely see my IT guys as I'm never in the office. Maybe I'll start giving my list to YOUR IT guys! :)
[quote=rjsss212]todays bankok post...
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/30100/bangkok-sleazy-street-of-shame[/url][/quote]when you have rampant corruption, anarchy is the result. politicians love to meddle in situations they don't understand, early bar closing was always going to cause more problems than previously existed.
also, it seems that citizens from most black african countries place very little value on a human life, therefore : beatings, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] and shootings will become more prevalent. once this behaviour becomes entrenched, it is almost impossible to eradicate.
nep and soi cowboy will continue until the wild west situation forces closure, or, more likely, a shift in the venues.
of course, with the world ending (wasn't it supposed to end 2000/2001??) in 2012......................
tuck.
[quote=friar tuck]also, it seems that citizens from most black african countries place very little value on a human life, therefore : beatings, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] and shootings will become more prevalent. once this behaviour becomes entrenched, it is almost impossible to eradicate.[/quote]
wow.... now that's one opinionated statement... so everything is to be blamed on the "blacks" and it's all their fault huh? have you ever been to any african country?
who do you think is taking the kickback bribe money to let them stay unchecked and uncontrolled? it sure as shit is a group of thai and the "blacks" are just being used while some folks sit back and get rich off their actions. if it were not "blacks" then it would be some other group so let's try to keep the racist crap to a minimum. there's not one innocent country or race in the world.
holly crap "whitey" the blacks are moving in we better sell our homes before our property devalues.... depending on who owns the land (doesn't a certain famous family own nep....) maybe they want the land and area to destabilize to put up other items. who knows, but someone is making cash and it is not the "blacks".
I agree too.
It's just like saying that Al Quaida gives all the other terrorists a bad name.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Wow. Now that's one opinionated statement. So everything is to be blamed on the "blacks" and it's all their fault huh? Have you ever been to any African Country?
Who do you think is taking the kickback bribe money to let them stay unchecked and uncontrolled? It sure as shit is a group of Thai and the "Blacks" are just being used while some folks sit back and get rich off their actions. If it were not "Blacks" then it would be some other group so let's try to keep the racist crap to a minimum. There's not one innocent country or race in the world.
Holly crap "Whitey" the blacks are moving in we better sell our homes before our property devalues. Depending on who owns the land (doesn't a certain famous family own NEP.) maybe they WANT the land and area to destabilize to put up other items. Who knows, but someone is making cash and it is not the "blacks".[/QUOTE]Well,
Firstly, I have had extensive first hand experience on the African continent. I have owned and run, a number of business operations there, still have financial interests as well.
Mine was a statement of fact, and is not racist.
You are taking a very naive viewpoint.
The "backers" as you call them have a tiger by the tail, once a financial threshold has been reached, they will be bitten.
I have seen this happen before in other countries. You may find it unpalatable, that doesn't make it untrue.
You just sit on your arse and blow through it like you did in your reply.
By the way, I am one of those "blacks" you mentioned.
Tuck
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Earlier this year, got a message on Tagged / Dia or some site from a Thai lady, working BKK, aged 39 with no pic attached. Made a polite reply, and we had some chats on YM/MSN etc. She sent a pic and was ok for her age (slim, no kids) and keen to meet. I had a BKK business trip and she was waiting for me in my hotel, and within ten minutes of arrival were doing the deed. She worked in Paragon. Later that night, dropped her at BTS and went mongering elsewhere. Never saw her again and no money exchanged.
Later this year, got a DIA message from a 36 year old Thai lady in CR, no kids with no pics. We got chatting, and the pics were nice. After 2 months I had a BKK trip and we met and had a great time with her. We then went to Singapore together on a business trip and I went to CR also. Good times but then she got a bit weird so I backed off.
Now I'm in same situation. New DIA girl 38, sends me email. We get chatting and her pics are also ok for her age. Slim no kids. Now sending me lots of hot emails about her g string collections. I suspect we will be bonking also within 10 minutes of meeting.
My question here. Is this a common trend. I feel like I'm the one being picked up by these girls but I'm not shouting resistance. I'm over 50 but look fine, and probably safe for these ladies. Anyone had similar experiences?[/QUOTE]You will never know exactly what their agendas are. Maybe just lonely, bored, horny? A buddy of mine met a lady on DIA awhile back who fit that age bracket and description, she came down and stayed with him some days. A week later, he got home to find the police waiting for him at his apartment. They, along with this lady's HUSBAND were looking for her! He figured he was going to be paying some pretty hefty tea money, but his apartment folks stood up for him, said he didn't have the lady hiding in his room, and things ended uneventfully. I date some women on DIA, but I try to stick to the ones that have to be at work everyday and don't have time to go off on holidays. For just plain old fun I'd rather pay up and keep things real straight.
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck]You are taking a very naive viewpoint.[/QUOTE]
As a stepped on minority, No i am not
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck]The "backers" as you call them have a tiger by the tail, once a financial threshold has been reached, they will be bitten.[/QUOTE]
History can only show you that the "backers" in thai are the sleeping tigers not the other way around. Never underestimate and turn your back on a thai. That is very naive to underestimate a smiling thai.
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck]I have seen this happen before in other countries. You may find it unpalatable, that doesn't make it untrue.[/QUOTE]
I live in it every day, and have to deal with it every day, but from the reverse angle. I find the reverse as unpalatable as the view point you sit on your horse from.
I'll repeat, there is not an innocent race or country in today's world. But to blame the "blacks" for lower sukhumvit is placing the blame on the wrong people. The thai's are to blame.
Well said Friar Tuck.
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck]Well,
Firstly, I have had extensive first hand experience on the African continent. I have owned and run, a number of business operations there, still have financial interests as well.
Mine was a statement of fact, and is not racist.
You are taking a very naive viewpoint.
The "backers" as you call them have a tiger by the tail, once a financial threshold has been reached, they will be bitten.
I have seen this happen before in other countries. You may find it unpalatable, that doesn't make it untrue.
You just sit on your arse and blow through it like you did in your reply.
By the way, I am one of those "blacks" you mentioned.
Tuck[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck]Well,
By the way, I am one of those "blacks" you mentioned.
Tuck[/QUOTE]
I think we all know that education (from parents, school or both) work ethic and environment are the prime determinants. Skin color or eye shape has little bearing except in perpetuating inequality.
Hmmm, was a day when being black entitled one to a little polital incorrrectness now and again...
Some useful stuff I came across,
I came across a custom shoe shop here on my last trip and this trip had a pair made. Takes a week but absolutely outstanding! Business card attached.
Was wandering deep in the bowels one day and came across this little garage shop on a very secluded soi. He is a pool cue maker, done right there in his garage with 1 assistant. No English but very nice people and some great work! Looks like he will make any type of cue and could probably be shipped as I have been buying some specialty bicycle parts from a Thai guy on E-Bay and his stuff gets to me (eventually) and in 1 piece so I know it’s possible, to the US anyway.
Had some prescription sunglasses made last week. As a test tried 2 different opticians. First was not that far from my hotel in a little old shop under the Saphan Taksin station on the skytrain. More specifically, at the base of the large, half completed hotel that has been standing for years. This shop, which in every way is relatively unremarkable, needed 1 whole week to make the lenses. 1800bhat (I didn’t negotiate). When they came in the optical clarity was very good. During that week I had St. Moritz opticians on Suk between 6 & 8 across from the Landmark make a second pair. I originally walked in the shop on a Satturday and the older lady (owner I think) quoted 2500BHat. I said that is high but I would be back. Went back on Sunday but the place was gone. Seems they are closed on Sundays and when the gates are down there is nothing to indicate a business resides there! So came back on Monday, showed her the frame and she had forgotten her last quote and offered for 1800bhat (same high index, multicoating tinted lens) but she quotes me 2 days. Got the glasses back and I think the clarity is a very little bit less but I may be imagining it. Wore them both on consecutive days and I am extremely satisfied. I will be bring 2 more pair for St. Moritz to make and I’ll try to get her down as far as possible and report.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Some useful stuff I came across,
I came across a custom shoe shop here on my last trip and this trip had a pair made. Takes a week but absolutely outstanding! Business card attached.
Was wandering deep in the bowels one day and came across this little garage shop on a very secluded soi. He is a pool cue maker, done right there in his garage with 1 assistant. No English but very nice people and some great work! Looks like he will make any type of cue and could probably be shipped as I have been buying some specialty bicycle parts from a Thai guy on E-Bay and his stuff gets to me (eventually) and in 1 piece so I know it’s possible, to the US anyway.[/QUOTE]
I don't mean to be a shit disturber but... how is this information useful to anyone? There are no locations or prices.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I don't mean to be a shit disturber but... how is this information useful to anyone? There are no locations or prices.[/QUOTE]
It appears you do but that's a different discussion...
Forgot the attachment.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]It appears you do but that's a different discussion...
Forgot the attachment.[/QUOTE]Yep, NF is often disturbing T_KTV's shit, and vice-versa ;) LOL
Nice post Rjsss212, and well worthy of the General Reports thread.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]It appears you do but that's a different discussion...
Forgot the attachment.[/QUOTE]
Are these info meant to feed the shoe and the glasses fetish?
Just wondering about the relationship between this (monger) forum and the providers you mentioned.
Still, if you wish, I can reciprocate with the best pizza parlour of my street :)
My Thai friends - armchair sociologists from the upper-middle class, admittedly, but certainly local - state that they doubt the ability of either the Nigerian or Russian mafias to operate independently of the Thai mafia.
[QUOTE=Opebo]state that they doubt the ability of either the Nigerian or Russian mafias to operate independently of the Thai mafia.[/QUOTE]
Well that was my main point. To think that anything happens in thai without thai's profiting from it or controlling it, allowing it, endorsing it, supporting it, either out front or from behind the scene is naive and absolutely wrong.
And Opebo is your term Thai Mafia just a euphemism for Thai Politicians which under them and part of them are the Thai Police as well as Revenue Officers?
[QUOTE=The Pro]Yep, NF is often disturbing T_KTV's shit, and vice-versa ;) LOL
Nice post Rjsss212, and well worthy of the General Reports thread.[/QUOTE]
God I've missed you TP and your very knowledgeable insights during this holiday season.
Actually Rjss212 report I found interesting especially the bike parts cuz I know many of us on ISG are long distance touring bicyclist and share info about bike shops in BKK and Pattaya.
I liked the cue information but there was no help in cost and where to go.
I also wondered about where the shoes were made, the type of shoe he had made, the cost of the shoe he had made etc... which was not listed.
Absolutely his post is a fresh and a welcomed report, it was however, lacking some basic info readers would need. Which now that some cards are posted is more complete. If I was going to be in BKK long enough during these next three weeks I'd probably have to PM him for more info still. And I hope he remembers the info for when I do spend more time in BKK so I can them out. Where as if he posts the info that is complete when it is fresh in his mind it will be easier for us all.
Rjsss212, I enjoyed the report, just would have appreciated more details as these are the types of things that many of us do enjoy reading about, and if it doesn't suit us we should skip it. I too would like to add to Nic's comments, more details would be appreciated if you can recall them.
Happy New Year Folks.... I hope we're all getting a BBBJ at the strike of 12... Even you too ToiletPaper... And Nic, just to clarify so there is no mistake, I mean a BBBJ by a lady not a LB :)
[quote=rjsss212]hmmm, was a day when being black entitled one to a little polital incorrrectness now and again...[/quote]
not in my lifetime, and i listened to the "i have a dream" speech live.
[QUOTE=Giotto]Naughty, Absolutely correct. Why should the author get paid for writing his book?
QUOTE]
A fair and reasonable amount.
$37.00 for a downloaded work of fiction is thievery, pure and simple.
If the price was a more reasonable, say $8.00 or $10.00, people wouldn't feel the need to steal the bits.
And wouldn't be justified in doing so. (No honor among thieves!)
Happy New Year to all!
[QUOTE=Naughty]A fair and reasonable amount.
$37.00 for a downloaded work of fiction is thievery, pure and simple.
If the price was a more reasonable, say $8.00 or $10.00, people wouldn't feel the need to steal the bits.
And wouldn't be justified in doing so. (No honor among thieves!)
Happy New Year to all![/QUOTE]
Has anyone read this report? It is only filled with info that is common sense, info that is outdated about Pattaya, info that is already available here on ISG for free, and is full of links to other sites that sell you crap. It's not fiction it is crap. But it is the owners piece of shit and up to him what to sell it for.
IMHO It's not worth buying so I don't know why people are getting a stick up their ass about this. However, if a person puts something for sale, it is up to seller to price it and up to the buyer to decide if they want to buy it.
Or stop being a lazy ass and use a proper search engine (or learn how to use a computer damn it) and download it themselves as I stated before there are many links to broken copies out there already, even a 12 year could find a link to it.
So if a person does not think the 37 dollars is worth the price for worthless outdated crap then don't buy it. And if they are not bright enough to surf properly then fine do not worry about that piece of shit.
But my lord have some self respect, don't post on a site that you're such a cheap charlie and too lazy or dumb to surf the internet that you want others to send it to you for free.
Then again, many times I also am a lazy dumb ass with no self respect :D
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Has anyone read this report? It is only filled with info that is common sense, info that is outdated about Pattaya, info that is already available here on ISG for free, and is full of links to other sites that sell you crap. It's not fiction it is crap. But it is the owners piece of shit and up to him what to sell it for.
IMHO It's not worth buying so I don't know why people are getting a stick up their ass about this. However, if a person puts something for sale, it is up to seller to price it and up to the buyer to decide if they want to buy it.
Or stop being a lazy ass and use a proper search engine (or learn how to use a computer damn it) and download it themselves as I stated before there are many links to broken copies out there already, even a 12 year could find a link to it.
So if a person does not think the 37 dollars is worth the price for worthless outdated crap then don't buy it. And if they are not bright enough to surf properly then fine do not worry about that piece of shit.
But my lord have some self respect, don't post on a site that you're such a cheap charlie and too lazy or dumb to surf the internet that you want others to send it to you for free.
Then again, many times I also am a lazy dumb ass with no self respect :D[/QUOTE]
I'm also a lazy dumb ass but with a little self respect. I am going to Pattaya next October so I recently bought the download and read it. I agree with most of what Tansak has to say. Most of the advice I had seen on several of these forums. There were a lot of ads (read links) to sites that sell magic gels that make you hard instantly and other things. I assume the author gets some referral fee for the clicks that go to those sites. I would not expect ads for a so called piece of literature that costs 37 USD. But at least I have a little self respect because I honored the authors intellectual property.
The one thing that it did do was make me horny so I called up a provider that I know in Southern California and spent another 160 USD to get my pipes cleaned. LOL
[QUOTE=Bigfoot16]I'm also a lazy dumb ass but with a little self respect. [/QUOTE]
Well then you're a step up from me, but that's not hard to do so don't feel too good about yourself. :D
[QUOTE=Bigfoot16]I honored the authors intellectual property.[/QUOTE]
I seriously question the author's intellect on the subject. So maybe you honored the author's right to sell his crap not his intellectual property... :D
Seriously folks... I know little about Pattaya compared to many of the long term posters in that region that live there but even I know more then what is in the book. And the info on bars and other things is so incredibly simplistic that five minutes of RTFF (pattaya forum) you'd get everything that's in the book and one million times more for free (less the links to the authors other advertisements).
[QUOTE=Bigfoot16]The one thing that it did do was make me horny so I called up a provider that I know in Southern California and spent another 160 USD to get my pipes cleaned. LOL[/QUOTE]
Well maybe she should send a kick back to the author...
ISG is getting kind of boring in the Thailand threads, simply as nothing new is being reported, its the same old same old same old being discussed over and over again. People doing write ups of what others have written about 200 times before.
It was refreshing to read something new, even if it was on the general reports thread where non mongering stuff should be.
You and NF do fill the threads with your nonsense "chatting" far too much. It would be good if you two started writing only reports, and stopped your pathetic comments and 1 on 1 chats all over the place.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]God I've missed you TP and your very knowledgeable insights during this holiday season.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bigfoot16]But at least I have a little self respect because I honored the authors intellectual property.[/QUOTE]
The folks you got ripped off by just think you're a fish. Who took the bait.
$37 for a downloaded book is robbery. Unless it's a textbook. Then it's grand larceny.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Well then you're a step up from me, but that's not hard to do so don't feel too good about yourself. :D
I seriously question the author's intellect on the subject. So maybe you honored the author's right to sell his crap not his intellectual property... :D
Seriously folks... I know little about Pattaya compared to many of the long term posters in that region that live there but even I know more then what is in the book. And the info on bars and other things is so incredibly simplistic that five minutes of RTFF (pattaya forum) you'd get everything that's in the book and one million times more for free (less the links to the authors other advertisements).
.[/QUOTE]
I don't disagree with what you said. My cost is sunk. Today I got an email with more tips, primarily about how to speak a little Bar Thai complete with links to a site that offers Thai language downloads for a price of course. My unit cost per tidbit of information just got cut in half.
The $15 I spent on an ISG membership still is one of the best values I have received in international mongering. I hope the readers of this forum reap the benefits of this dialog.
[QUOTE=Naughty]$37 for a downloaded book is robbery. Unless it's a textbook. Then it's grand larceny.[/QUOTE]How is someone selling a product robbery? Robbery is forcibly taking an object from someone, is he forcing you to buy his book? If you view his website are you forced to buy it or do you have the option of not buying it? Do you even know the legal amount for a crime to be considered grand larceny?
What you really mean is that compared to your income you don't feel that the $37 is worth it. However an intelligent person would realize that everyone's income is different and value is merely a matter of perception, but that would certainly not be dramatic as grand larceny!
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]And Nic, just to clarify so there is no mistake, I mean a BBBJ by a lady not a LB :)[/QUOTE]
Yes, you know what, I heard that Story... you got yourself a nice LB last time and did not like it. At least you tried eh, can't blame you for preferring women, at least now we can say we have the same taste :D
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Yes, you know what, I heard that Story... you got yourself a nice LB last time and did not like it. At least you tried eh, can't blame you for preferring women, at least now we can say we have the same taste :D[/QUOTE]
Since it is new year eve I'll let this slide.
Aw what the hell, hey Frenchy... Fuck You :D
Enjoy your Schuck Wow tonight ;)
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Are these info meant to feed the shoe and the glasses fetish?
Just wondering about the relationship between this (monger) forum and the providers you mentioned.
Still, if you wish, I can reciprocate with the best pizza parlour of my street :)[/QUOTE]
Up to you...
Happy New Year to all of you Fuckers!! :D
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Happy New Year to all of you Fuckers!! :D[/QUOTE]
I agree in Nics humble wish... Happy New Year all of you Fcrs...:D
I guess some you are members of Facebook... have you had any success in dating thai girls or women from there??
The last couple of weeks I have added about 250 thai girls... and so far about 200 has accepted. There are very various girls... many univerisity students and some i think might be bar girls and even one or two massage girls...
What about your experiences from fb??
[QUOTE=Gfighta]What you really mean is that compared to your income you don't feel that the $37 is worth it. However an intelligent person would realize that everyone's income is different and value is merely a matter of perception, but that would certainly not be dramatic as grand larceny![/QUOTE]
Methinks you are: 1. Making (incorrect) assumptions about me,
and 2. putting words in my mouth.
$37 for a book download is a rip off, pure and simple. It doesn't matter if you're Bill Gates, or OBEPO. It's still a rip off.
If you are foolish enough to fall for it and then advertise it on the internet don't blame me for laughing at you for it.
Happy New Year all you LBFM schtuppers!
[QUOTE=Naughty]Methinks you are: 1. Making (incorrect) assumptions about me,
and 2. putting words in my mouth.
$37 for a book download is a rip off, pure and simple. It doesn't matter if you're Bill Gates, or OBEPO. It's still a rip off.
If you are foolish enough to fall for it and then advertise it on the internet don't blame me for laughing at you for it.
Happy New Year all you LBFM schtuppers![/QUOTE]
Im sorry but i humbly beg to differ.
I think that when it comes to selling a product, be it on the internet, or in stores, its a matter of willing seller and willing buyer.
It all comes down to the sellers perception of the value of his product and the buyers recognition of this value that enables him to pay that price for the item.
A man who pays thousands for high priced call girls isnt any more foolish than the man who pays hundreds at a gogo bar for they both see value in the product they are paying for.
Whether or not they feel satisfied with the eventual result and outcome is irrelevant as the purchase has already taken place and the perception of value has been created by the seller and recognized by the buyer.
I wouldnt go so far as to call him foolish as ive paid $18-$20 for e-books before. Very wily marketing on the sellers part, selling the first 2 parts cheap and the 3rd almost triple the price. I was hooked on the story and i had to know the outcome so i paid the price.
I saw value in needing to know the ending and i was willing to pay. Nonetheless, to each his own, and if you're not willing to pay $37 for an online publication, then its the sellers failure in showing you the value of the item.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Yes, you know what, I heard that Story... you got yourself a nice LB last time and did not like it. At least you tried eh, can't blame you for preferring women, at least now we can say we have the same taste :D[/QUOTE]
There have been alot of LB's lately running around the streets of KL in Malaysia. Wonder if theyve left Thailand to seek greener pastures with less competition?
You'll be amazed at the amount of cars that stop and pick them up.
Some of them look absolutely stunning.
If you had to look back at this past year 2009... which memorable moment would you pick to be your "special 2009 memory?":
here's mine and it happened in the south:
Had a massage takeout at my hotel room, Lady was good and very professional, she was from a massage place nearby but her English was so bad I could not figure out where she was from.
After a good hour and half (I was not expecting extras, just wanted a nice massage) she stared at my cock, stroked it and looked amazed at the size. she kept repeating "big, big" in Thai.
The sad part of all this is that, with signs, she asked me if she could take a picture of my dick with her camera-Phone. I was quite amused and agreed.
She stroked to make me erect but as she could not succeed, she proceeded to give me a nice BBBJ. Once fully erect, she took her phone, got 2 snaps and gave me a Big Thankful Wai.
She got up, packed her stuff and was ready to leave.
I was still on the bed with a raging hard-on, she could not care less.
She waied me again and thanked me (pointing at the phone), then she left the room.
I am laughing now but I wasn't laughing then LOL
a question guys.
upon arriving 2 days ago, my cab driver needed to buy gas. a couple of miles from the airport, he pulled into a gas station and lifted the hood. the attendant inserted a hose into something near the motor. the driver told me it is something "CNT", I believe. he told me he gets 100 km on 60 bt, which seems like an amazing feat.
what is this stuff, and why is it not available in the west ?
Thanks
CNG Stands for compressed natural gas.
A lot of cars and trucks use it here in LOS.
Cheaper costs for them
[QUOTE=1Ball]a question guys.
upon arriving 2 days ago, my cab driver needed to buy gas. a couple of miles from the airport, he pulled into a gas station and lifted the hood. the attendant inserted a hose into something near the motor. the driver told me it is something "CNT", I believe. he told me he gets 100 km on 60 bt, which seems like an amazing feat.
what is this stuff, and why is it not available in the west ?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
It's natural gas, we have that in Egypt too. It's called CNG. You can convert any diesel-running car to use it, but it makes the car's lifetime shorter I believe...
Afternoon all:
There used to be a great Thailand FAQ list, does anyone know where it's been moved?
Also, is there an accepted practice for finding a working flower girl (virgin) in Bangkok or Pattaya. Clearly they can not have been on the game for long, but I thought they wore an arm band, like the girls on the rag.
Thanks,
Shoe
[QUOTE=Kenster]Im sorry but i humbly beg to differ.[/QUOTE]
$37 for downloaded book = rip off.
Same as say, $10 for a stick of gum.
A rip is a rip.
It's not whether you are convinced it offers you value. It's whether you are gullible enough to be sucked in to wasting your money.
Enjoy your Slap Chop!
[QUOTE=Naughty]$37 for downloaded book = rip off.
Same as say, $10 for a stick of gum.
...
[/QUOTE]Nonsense!
The book is the intellectual property of the author. [Together with the publisher] he will set a price for the book - his business. If he sets it to 2$ he will have lots of downloads but also attract a specific customer group. If he sets it to 100$ he will have less downloads and a different customer group.
His book. His property. His business to decide about the price. No rip off at all!
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]Nonsense!
The book is the intellectual property of the author. [Together with the publisher] he will set a price for the book - his business. If he sets it to 2$ he will have lots of downloads but also attract a specific customer group. If he sets it to 100$ he will have less downloads and a different customer group.
His book. His property. His business to decide about the price. No rip off at all!
Giotto[/QUOTE]
I agree - not being a life saving remedy it is not a must to buy it to own it.
One can evaluate it great or not, his choice, his opinion.
A rip off is paying something for nothing. It can still be a rip-off even at 2$.
[QUOTE=Giotto]Nonsense!
The book is the intellectual property of the author. [Together with the publisher] he will set a price for the book. His business. If he sets it to 2$ he will have lots of downloads but also attract a specific customer group. If he sets it to 100$ he will have less downloads and a different customer group.
His book. His property. His business to decide about the price. No rip off at all! Giotto[/QUOTE]
Absolutely right. It is the author's right to set whatever price he wants. It is your right not to buy the book if you think it is not worth it to you. The higher the price, the less the demand. The lower the price, the more demand (sales). It is the law of supply and demand. The trick for the seller is to set a price that will maximize his return. Price x quantity less cost. The buyer merely wants to maximize his utility. Ripping the book is attractive to the buyer because his cost is zero and he has the book i.e. 100% maximum utility.
But downloading the book without paying for it is stealing. Everybody knows that. The rest is sophistry. And even though everyone downloads for free (mp3's, movies, and books). It does not make it right. Don't BS yourself.
Some music groups have accepted the new paradigm and now allow downloads. Their calculus is their recordings are advertisement for the band that will generate a demand to see the group perform. They will make their money through ticket sales. That is their decision and for some it seems to be working. But if nobody paid for intellectual property, no one would create it.
[QUOTE=Egy Monger]It's natural gas, we have that in Egypt too. It's called CNG. You can convert any diesel-running car to use it, but it makes the car's lifetime shorter I believe...[/QUOTE]
Correction,
you normally convert petrol engines to run on CNG. The gain is lower running costs due to favourable pricing and sometimes reduced fuel tax structures. You also reduce emissions. Engine performance suffers slightly.
Engine life is slightly improved due to cleaner burning qualities and cooling factor with this fuel type. Engine is normally started on a gas / petrol mix.
Diesel's already have the advantages gained above, although many diesel bus fleets use this fuel because of price advantages due to local sourcing.
Did he charge you less for the trip due to lower running costs??
Ha! don't think so...........
Tuck
Thanks for all the answers about CNG. I am curious why it is not available in Europe, (maybe it is), or the USA.
Interesting how this fuel would allow the taxi driver to do a one way to Pattaya on less than 100 bt. They must be very hapy to have this option versus regular gasoline.
[QUOTE=1Ball]Thanks for all the answers about CNG. I am curious why it is not available in Europe, (maybe it is), or the USA...[/QUOTE]
It is available in Europe and in the USA (but personal use of CNG is a small niche market currently there).
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed_natural_gas[/url]
Why didn't you bring this up at dinner 1ball?
Delhi's entire bus fleet runs on CNG. Same with all tuk-tuks in Indian metros. Down under as well. This why you can't fit your suitcase in taxis trunks in LOS. They stick the CNG tank back there.
As for the US, it is a horse and cart issue. Would you buy a car you can't take out of California because Nevada has no CNG stations? Would you invest in a CNG station if only a few people had vehicles that would run on CNG?
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck]Correction,
You normally convert petrol engines to run on CNG. The gain is lower running costs due to favourable pricing and sometimes reduced fuel tax structures. You also reduce emissions. Engine performance suffers slightly.
Engine life is slightly improved due to cleaner burning qualities and cooling factor with this fuel type. Engine is normally started on a gas / petrol mix.
Diesel's already have the advantages gained above, although many diesel bus fleets use this fuel because of price advantages due to local sourcing.
Did he charge you less for the trip due to lower running costs?
Ha! Don't think so.
Tuck[/QUOTE]Vancouver has a number of buses running on CNG. They found that because of the dryness of the CNG they have had premature engine failure. They continue to look for a solution to that problem.
What is the shortest time you had when you barfined a girl, how much was fine and how much to her?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]If you had to look back at this past year 2009. Which memorable moment would you pick to be your "special 2009 memory? ":
Here's mine and it happened in the south:
Had a massage takeout at my hotel room, Lady was good and very professional, she was from a massage place nearby but her English was so bad I could not figure out where she was from.
After a good hour and half (I was not expecting extras, just wanted a nice massage) she stared at my cock, stroked it and looked amazed at the size. She kept repeating "big, big" in Thai.
The sad part of all this is that, with signs, she asked me if she could take a picture of my dick with her camera-Phone. I was quite amused and agreed.
She stroked to make me erect but as she could not succeed, she proceeded to give me a nice BBBJ. Once fully erect, she took her phone, got 2 snaps and gave me a Big Thankful Wai.
She got up, packed her stuff and was ready to leave.
I was still on the bed with a raging hard-on, she could not care less.
She waied me again and thanked me (pointing at the phone), then she left the room.
I am laughing now but I wasn't laughing then LOL[/QUOTE]Nice one. You couldn't make this stuff up!
I'm bringing this up because we keep losing access to more and more adult sites - first pornhub and then tube8 and keezemovies. Now, just today youporn was blocked - a very major loss. As for ones I know of/regularly view only extremetube and redtube remain. I do also often worry about access to this site.
I know about 'proxy servers', and I guess they might work for a text only site like this one, but I've never found one that would actually work for video clips - perhaps they don't allow the transfer of larger files like that?
Anyway does any one have any advice? And don't say just go get some tail, as those of us who live on a Thai salary can only afford real sex a few times a month.
[QUOTE=Opebo]... I know about 'proxy servers', and I guess they might work for a text only site like this one, but I've never found one that would actually work for video clips - perhaps they don't allow the transfer of larger files like that?
Anyway does any one have any advice? ...[/QUOTE]
It seems to work (for youporn) via: [url]http://www.hidemyass.com[/url]
You can also try [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OperaTor"]OperaTor[/url], and of course, download many porn movies and video clips on certain torrent websites, such as [url="http://www.puretna.com/"]pureTNA[/url], for instance.
My first time posting in the Thailand section but a long time monger of Tijuana Mexico who is considering making his first time trip to Thailand before I become too old. I am guessing that one week minimum would be preferred to enjoy the trip and not be in a big rush while am there and would stay longer if doable.
Just looking for any current information and opinions on what city is best for finding girls and having an over all good first experience, and safe time. I would like to be in an area where the chicas are plenty, clean, friendly and easy to meet and good looking and near by nice hotel. I I think I would prefer to just visit one city and stay in the same hotel as I will want to relax, drink and enjoy nice chicas and not be in a hurry while I am there. Unless convinced other wise.
Also what time of year is best as far as weather?
The only Thailand chicks I have seen in my life time are the ones on porn sites, which are very cute. Are my expectations too high thinking I will meet similar girls in real life? I like them sweet and petite or tall and slim and age 18 though 30ish. How would you say these girls compare as far as looks and attitude, personality when compared to the chicas of Tijuana for those of you have been to both places?
As for my self I am 40, thin, Caucasian and a active road cyclist who is in pretty decent shape for his age. The chicas usually guess my age 5 to 8 years younger then I am.
Also what would the expected cost of such a trip cost for lets say one week leaving from LA, CA?
I have not done any research on this and thought this might be the best place to begin to get some good ideas and advise.
Also I would be travailing alone most likely but possible not. So I will diffidently be in new territory. I have traveled much of the world in the past but never been to Asia.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=FlapJacK]My first time posting in the Thailand section but a long time monger of Tijuana Mexico who is considering making his first time trip to Thailand before I become too old. I am guessing that one week minimum would be preferred to enjoy the trip and not be in a big rush while am there and would stay longer if doable.
Just looking for any current information and opinions on what city is best for finding girls and having an over all good first experience, and safe time. I would like to be in an area where the chicas are plenty, clean, friendly and easy to meet and good looking and near by nice hotel. I I think I would prefer to just visit one city and stay in the same hotel as I will want to relax, drink and enjoy nice chicas and not be in a hurry while I am there. Unless convinced other wise.
Also what time of year is best as far as weather?
The only Thailand chicks I have seen in my life time are the ones on porn sites, which are very cute. Are my expectations too high thinking I will meet similar girls in real life? I like them sweet and petite or tall and slim and age 18 though 30ish. How would you say these girls compare as far as looks and attitude, personality when compared to the chicas of Tijuana for those of you have been to both places?
As for my self I am 40, thin, Caucasian and a active road cyclist who is in pretty decent shape for his age. The chicas usually guess my age 5 to 8 years younger then my looks.
Also what would the expected cost of such a trip cost for lets say one week leaving from LA, CA?
I have not done any research on this and thought this might be the best place to begin to get some good ideas and advise.
Also I would be travailing alone most likely but possible not. So I will diffidently be in new territory. I have traveled much of the world in the past but never been to Asia.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Some folks are going to tell you to RTFF and do your research, but I will cut you some slack and answer your question.
Depending on when you go, the flight will be between $800 to $1100 if you fly economy. Hotels depend upon your budget, but they could run anywhere from $25 a night, to over $100 a night depending upon your taste. I personally usually spend around $30-40 a night in Pattaya, and around $50-60 a night in Bangkok. You could eat well for $10 a day, or $50 a day depending upon your taste. Miscellaneous transportation, figure $10 a day unless you are flying to some other part of Thailand.
Professional pussy runs about $25-40 a pop in Bangkok, $15-30 a pop in Pattaya. This is for girls in the 6.5-8.5 range on looks - maybe the occasional 9 if you get lucky and strike opportunistically. You could expect to pay slightly more for extras, such as BBFS (definitely IS available - up to you if you care to partake) or Greek.
you might pay close to double that for absolute gorgeous semi-pro pussy of the 9+ looks caliber that you find on websites.
Best weather is now through the end of February. It gets even hotter and more humid from March through the Summer.
BTW, the main difference you will find relative to Tijuana is in the attitude of the girls. They generally WANT to have a good time in the process of serving you. Virtually none of the ladies are going to do the quickie and outta there and upselling every different act or position that dominates in TJ
[QUOTE=FlapJacK]My first time posting in the Thailand section but a long time monger of Tijuana Mexico who is considering making his first time trip to Thailand before I become too old. I am guessing that one week minimum would be preferred to enjoy the trip and not be in a big rush while am there and would stay longer if doable.
Just looking for any current information and opinions on what city is best for finding girls and having an over all good first experience, and safe time. I would like to be in an area where the chicas are plenty, clean, friendly and easy to meet and good looking and near by nice hotel. I I think I would prefer to just visit one city and stay in the same hotel as I will want to relax, drink and enjoy nice chicas and not be in a hurry while I am there. Unless convinced other wise.
Also what time of year is best as far as weather?
The only Thailand chicks I have seen in my life time are the ones on porn sites, which are very cute. Are my expectations too high thinking I will meet similar girls in real life? I like them sweet and petite or tall and slim and age 18 though 30ish. How would you say these girls compare as far as looks and attitude, personality when compared to the chicas of Tijuana for those of you have been to both places?
As for my self I am 40, thin, Caucasian and a active road cyclist who is in pretty decent shape for his age. The chicas usually guess my age 5 to 8 years younger then I am.
Also what would the expected cost of such a trip cost for lets say one week leaving from LA, CA?
I have not done any research on this and thought this might be the best place to begin to get some good ideas and advise.
Also I would be travailing alone most likely but possible not. So I will diffidently be in new territory. I have traveled much of the world in the past but never been to Asia.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Good info from #2041. I would suggest staying at least 2 weeks and checking out both BKK and Pattaya. Two weeks will also give you time to get over the jetlag as well. PM me and I will be happy to let you know some of my favorite places to monger, etc. Absolutely, read the forums as well, there is tons of info available and from guys a lot more experienced than myself.
[QUOTE=1Ball]Thanks for all the answers about CNG. I am curious why it is not available in Europe, (maybe it is), or the USA.
Interesting how this fuel would allow the taxi driver to do a one way to Pattaya on less than 100 bt. They must be very hapy to have this option versus regular gasoline.[/QUOTE]
What planet are you living in? Must be nice to know all about pussys but nothing about CNG. But then again you have only 1 ball :)
Everybody knows it stands for CUM N GO. :D
[QUOTE=FlapJacK]
Just looking for any current information and opinions on what city is best for finding girls and having an over all good first experience, and safe time. I would like to be in an area where the chicas are plenty, clean, friendly and easy to meet and good looking and near by nice hotel...Thanks![/QUOTE]
I would recommend 2 weeks minimum as well. You burn 2 days getting back and forth from the US. If you are only going to stay in one city, I'd go for staying in Pattaya. Walking Street, Soi 6, Beach Road and a few soapies here and there will keep you busy but not cost as much as the equivalent in BKK. All of it is much closer together and less hassle to get to than in BKK.
If you decide to stay in BKK, definitely check out Emmanuelle or Poseidon Soapies, Soi 33 and Soi Cowboy. Will be on the pricey side, but you'll definitely find an attractive girl that meets your physical requirements. Attitude might be another matter though, so do some careful window shopping first.
Cheers,
F2
[QUOTE=Duniawala]What planet are you living in? Must be nice to know all about pussys but nothing about CNG. But then again you have only 1 ball :)
Everybody knows it stands for CUM N GO. :D[/QUOTE]
Ah yes that famous Boy George hit: "Cum-a Cameleon".
I nearly forgot that one.
Any abbreviation or local slang not listed on the standard abbreviations is dangerous unless writers don't want to be universally understood.
Plenty of USA and British terms are not used at all in my country and are too crude to appear on televison.
Sooner or later all of us want it-nice huge breasts on a girl. And I am not talking C cups. I am talking D and above. Now I have found this in Pattaya many times (with milk!) but have yet to find this in Bangkok. Part of the reason I have found it in Pattaya easier is because you can simply see them as you go down Beach Road or Soi 6. Simply 100's of girls and you can clearly spot the big juggs. Can anyone suggest to the board where you have found large breasted girls (name, location etc) so that they rest of us may indulge if that is what we are specifically looking for on a particular day? Or feel free to PM me with direct information.
[quote=opebo]i'm bringing this up because we keep losing access to more and more adult sites - first pornhub and then tube8 and keezemovies. now, just today youporn was blocked - a very major loss. as for ones i know of/regularly view only extremetube and redtube remain. i do also often worry about access to this site.
i know about 'proxy servers', and i guess they might work for a text only site like this one, but i've never found one that would actually work for video clips - perhaps they don't allow the transfer of larger files like that?
anyway does any one have any advice? and don't say just go get some tail, as those of us who live on a thai salary can only afford real sex a few times a month.[/quote]i have noticed lately that the blocking is sporadic. one day the sites are blocked, but the next they are back up. i have maxnet and there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to when the sites are blocked. what i have found as faster and more convenient than access by proxy servers (which open the sites for me but play the videos all too slow or not at all) is to get some sort of a download program (i use ant.comwhich is free) and when the sites are not blocked, i download a bunch of videos, which can then be played at any time at excellent speed.
[quote=oldian]i have noticed lately that the blocking is sporadic. one day the sites are blocked, but the next they are back up. i have maxnet and there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to when the sites are blocked. what i have found as faster and more convenient than access by proxy servers (which open the sites for me but play the videos all too slow or not at all) is to get some sort of a download program (i use ant.comwhich is free) and when the sites are not blocked, i download a bunch of videos, which can then be played at any time at excellent speed.[/quote]
interesting, thanks oldian. i have never found any of the sites to come back once blocked - for me they have been permanently blocked since the blocking begins. and i use many different internet shops in different towns, as well as the service at home.
alright guys, I'll be visiting Thailand as a side trip during my 6 week stay in the Philippines. I'm planning on visiting Pattaya and bangkok. I was in the Philippines for about 4 weeks last December so I am not new to mongering. My question is simply what’s the going rate and best bars for the best girls? (‘best girls’ meaning cheapest and super hot)
I am assuming that mongering in Thailand is the same as in the Philippines except for the fact that my Thai isn’t that good and my Tagalog is good. I think I just get a hotel, go to the bar, choose a girl, negotiate price, and take her back to my room. That’s it. but I don’t think freebies are available in Thailand or maybe I’m wrong...
[QUOTE=Opebo]I'm bringing this up because we keep losing access to more and more adult sites - first pornhub and then tube8 and keezemovies. Now, just today youporn was blocked - a very major loss. As for ones I know of/regularly view only extremetube and redtube remain. I do also often worry about access to this site.
I know about 'proxy servers', and I guess they might work for a text only site like this one, but I've never found one that would actually work for video clips - perhaps they don't allow the transfer of larger files like that?
Anyway does any one have any advice? And don't say just go get some tail, as those of us who live on a Thai salary can only afford real sex a few times a month.[/QUOTE]
Try googling "circumventing" or "bypassing" "url censorship". You'll find lots of ways around it.
In Germany, France and elsewhere in Europe, they tried to "block" child porn sites by forcing the ISPs to hijack the dns requests in their dns-servers.
And while child porn sites should be nuked or otherwise exterminated, this dns method is so childishly easy to circumvent, that it just shows the incompetence and stupidity of those calling themselves "authorities".
To find out if this method is being used in your case, find out the ip-address of your favourite (adult-) porn site, enter it into your browser's address line and if it works, your problems are almost over.
All you need to do then, is to specify the ip-address of another dns-server (e.g. opendns.org and many others, not under control of the censor) in your TCP/IP setup.
Let me know how you fare.
DS
Once you go to Thailand you will so need to ever return to mongering in the Philippines.
Just go, see Soi Cowboy, Nana, the Beer Garden, MPS.
Easy.
[QUOTE=Laylow3]alright guys, I'll be visiting Thailand as a side trip during my 6 week stay in the Philippines. I'm planning on visiting Pattaya and bangkok. I was in the Philippines for about 4 weeks last December so I am not new to mongering. My question is simply what’s the going rate and best bars for the best girls? (‘best girls’ meaning cheapest and super hot)
I am assuming that mongering in Thailand is the same as in the Philippines except for the fact that my Thai isn’t that good and my Tagalog is good. I think I just get a hotel, go to the bar, choose a girl, negotiate price, and take her back to my room. That’s it. but I don’t think freebies are available in Thailand or maybe I’m wrong...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Opebo]Interesting, thanks Oldian. I have never found any of the sites to come back once blocked - for me they have been permanently blocked since the blocking begins. And I use many different internet shops in different towns, as well as the service at home.[/QUOTE]That really is strange. You might want to start checking who the provider is. Is it True (as I am sure it is in most public internet cafes?)? My sites (xvideos, pornhub) have all been up fine for the past 3-4 days, before that they tended to block every other day. Also, youporn opens all the time. Go figure.
[QUOTE=Laylow3] I think I just get a hotel, go to the bar, choose a girl, negotiate price, and take her back to my room. That’s it. but I don’t think freebies are available in Thailand or maybe I’m wrong...[/QUOTE]
You are wrong.
[QUOTE=Showdown]Sooner or later all of us want it-nice huge breasts on a girl.[/QUOTE]
Not all of us. I don't find myself looking for huge breasts. Give me A-B cups all day long.
No no.. A nice perky 34b is perfect. I don't want any extra pillows to lay my head on
[QUOTE=Laylow3]alright guys, I'll be visiting Thailand as a side trip during my 6 week stay in the Philippines. I'm planning on visiting Pattaya and bangkok. I was in the Philippines for about 4 weeks last December so I am not new to mongering. My question is simply what’s the going rate and best bars for the best girls? (‘best girls’ meaning cheapest and super hot)
I am assuming that mongering in Thailand is the same as in the Philippines except for the fact that my Thai isn’t that good and my Tagalog is good. I think I just get a hotel, go to the bar, choose a girl, negotiate price, and take her back to my room. That’s it. but I don’t think freebies are available in Thailand or maybe I’m wrong...[/QUOTE]I am in a similar position of being familiar with PI but new to Thai.
Freebies are much harder to come by in Thailand. At least for mid aged/oder guys, an important difference is that whereas in phil the bar fine is an inclusive of service price of say 1500 P here it is just for the bar (300-600B) and you must separately negotiate the girl's price 500-2000B)
In my limited experience here it is much more difficult to find girls who will hang around as liong as you want as at least here in Pattaya they are generally keen to catch another customer as quickly as possible.
Hi all
My first contribution here, covering my first trip to Thailand and my first traveling mongering experience.
I had 12 days in Thailand, around three days in each of four places in mid-late December 2009.
I researched the trip and I'm grateful for the good info from members here.
First stop was Pattaya.
As this was my first experience of the Thai scene, I was totally blown away and wide eyed. I stayed at Tim's Boutique Hotel. GF and pleasant, although one female receptionist made comments after I returned each night with a different girl.
I picked up all my girls from Walking St and I paid all of them 1,000 bht for ST. I stated my price and the three all accepted immediately. All were young slim Isaan girls and none had children.
To put the prices into perspective, I am mid 40s in age, still fit and well dressed.
I did approach one girl who wanted 1,500 bht. We agreed on 1,300 but I decided to dump her after I heard her talking on her phone on the way back to the hotel - she was telling another guy she would see him in one hour. I just went straight back to Walking St and found another girl. With all girls after that I made clear that ST meant two hours.
That night my condom broke but I suffered no problems.
I found two of the girls in bars but one was a FL. She was the disappointment. She was quite cold and soon after I entered her she asked me to hurry as it hurt. I like to screw for a long time, so this was disappointing. I kept going but eventually she insisted I stop. Later she showed me some blood on a tissue. A few of the Thai girls told me I was ‘long’, but I think this particular girl might have had a problem before she met me. I really didn’t go that hard with her.
One lesson I learnt was to take time to select a girl and not to choose just on looks. The whole experience was better where I could establish some sort of connection and a happy affectionate girl was always better than an aloof girl, even where the latter was more attractive.
Pattaya was great at night but there is nothing to do in the day. Although I love the girls, I also like to experience other things by day. For that reason, I’d be in no hurry to return to Pattaya and would only ever stay for a few days if I did.
Next was Chang Mai.
I loved this city. I stayed at Raming Lodge, another pleasant hotel with large rooms.
Within 30 minutes or arriving I found a friendly low key bar run by an Australian married to a Thai. I soon started drinking with a local girl there and ended up spending the next three days with her. She was older and definitely less attractive then the Pattaya girls, although also from Isaan. However her English was much better and she also acted as my tour guide and translator, so I enjoyed her help and it was a true GFE. Although I paid for dinner and drinks etc, she never asked me for money. When I left, I gave her a card with 2,000 bht inside. She did not open it until after I left.
I was very sad to leave Chang Mai, but was pre-booked for Phuket.
There I stayed at Sabathai Lodge in the middle of Patong. This is well located and quiet and comfortable, although it’s worth looking for discounts.
In Phuket I had three girls over three nights, all from Isaan. One was young and slim, one young but less slim as she had had a baby. The third was older, but again she had better English and I was happy to drink for a couple of hours with her before barfining her. Again, she gave a great GFE and was keen to see me the next day even though I paid for ST only.
However I was pre-booked to Bangkok.
In the capital I stayed at Majestic Suites, very close to Nana Plaza. The location was great, but I found the hotel a little depressing. It was of an OK standard – clean, well run – but half the rooms have no natural light.
I visited Soi Cowboy – a lot of fun – and Patpong – waste of time. However I always returned to Nana Plaza. I picked up two girls from there, both FL. One I decided not to screw after I got back to the hotel room – there was something unhealthy about her. I gave her 300 bht and she thanked me and left. The other was another young Isaan girl – bright and funny, we had a good time.
I haven’t described the sex in detail – in almost every case it was BBBJ, condom screw (although one girl didn’t ask, the others all did), and long reasonably hard sex in various positions. I asked one girl for anal but she refused.
I loved Thailand and would return tomorrow if I could.
Thanks again to the guys here – your tips helped me avoid problems and make the most of my first experience.
On a sadder note, a friend traveling with me caught syphilis in Cambodia even though he wore a condom. He had to go home early to deal with this. He told me, and my own research confirms, that it's very easy to miss the first symptom - a hard little lump on the penis.
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What are the 10 or so tunes that play over and over again?
Unfortunately I ran out of time and could not visit LOS.
However I fondly remember Pattaya and strip club music (they nearly play about the same 10 songs over and over) and I don't know what they are.
Can somebody list them. Wanna load up my mp3.
One is like bang lang (gitar music strumming) and does not sound anglo.
Did a little break down of some ISG figures:
World population (minus USA but including Argentina): 6.488 billions
Thailand population: roughly 70 millions (1.08% of the total)
Bangkok population: roughly 10 millions (0.15% of the total)
Pattaya population: roughly 0.4 million (0.006% of the total)
ISG posts about the 5 continents (minus USA but including Argentina): 785,000
Thailand threads posts: 97,500 (12.4% of the total)
Bangkok posts: roughly 41,000 (5.2% of the total)
Pattaya posts: 11,900 (1.5% of the total)
Is this a great country or what? Us members of the ISG surely love it!
Ryo
P.S. - if anyone ever posted something similar I apologise, didn't mean to plagiarize or anything, just didn't have the time to do a search.
[QUOTE=Encore8]Hi all
My first contribution here, covering my first trip to Thailand and my first traveling mongering experience.
[/QUOTE]
If all your posts are this good then you'll be a welcome contributor!
[QUOTE=Pita123]If all your posts are this good then you'll be a welcome contributor![/QUOTE]
I remember back then when I joined this forum we had to post a few posts like that (was it ten of them?) in order to become senior members.
I would give him seniority with only his first one.
I have a friend in Thailand called Pim. She has been on several trips with me and we have always had a great time together.
I have a new friend who I haven't yet met, but will be meeting and nailing soon in BKK called Pim.
And I have a new friend in Malaysia who I will be nailing hopefully very soon also. Also called Pim.
So today by a weird and wonderful coincidence I had all 3 Pim's on msn for chat.
No probs with getting the name mixed up of course, but had to check which Pim I was replying to in the various dialogue boxes. Was very confusing but funny.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I have a friend in Thailand called Pim. She has been on several trips with me and we have always had a great time together.
I have a new friend who I haven't yet met, but will be meeting and nailing soon in BKK called Pim.
And I have a new friend in Malaysia who I will be nailing hopefully very soon also. Also called Pim.
So today by a weird and wonderful coincidence I had all 3 Pim's on msn for chat.
No probs with getting the name mixed up of course, but had to check which Pim I was replying to in the various dialogue boxes. Was very confusing but funny.[/QUOTE]
I spent time with Pim(s) on two succesive nights, who worked at same place previously, I called them Pim #2 and Pim #3 as 2 years ago there was Pim #1. Another girl then told me politely that I was actually with Pim(s) numbers 3 and 4. Many Thai nicknames are quite common just like my English first name is real common too.
Only occasionally do I hear a completely new Thai nickname that have never heard before. Thai girls are often using foreign words for their nicknames these days, e.g. Benz, Golf, Candy, Ice, etc. even though they cannot pronounce these some of these words correctly in the Farang manner.
[QUOTE=M P Lurker]... Many Thai nicknames are quite common..[/QUOTE]
I know several "Pim" too. But statistically, I think that the most common names for the girls I've "known" so far in the Land of Smiles are the following:
1) Noy
2) Nok
3) Lek
4) Fon
5) Nid
I've fucked many "animals" too ("Nok" = bird, but several others too, such as "Kai" = chicken, "Phet" = duck, "Meow" = cat, for instance). It still makes me laugh to think about the meaning of the girls' nicknames in certain circumstances. :D
Hello, my dear fellow friends and farkers
It's been a long long time since I wrote.
1] because I'm too busy with work
2] because I'm too fucking lazy to type. Sorry
I know my last report was last year and I was suppose to report my Vietnam findings but. Its just too long ago. And I'm sorry for not living up to my promise.
So here it is. I'm a Malaysian and this is what I think and sorry if the others FIND my findings and experience offensive
Travelling
Going to Hatyai = rm45. Rm60
Hatyai. BKK = 740 baht. 900 baht
BKK. Chiangmai = 518baht. 638 baht
Chiangmai. Chiangrai = 132. 238 baht
Accomodation
Hatyai = I have always stayed in Lee Gardens or Garden Home
BKK = 1st day I was here, I stayed at Modelink at Sukhumvit soi4. Thanks to this forum. But I find this place too old and too many mosquitoes. What can I farking complain about? Its fucking 700 baht right?
But I found a much better place for the same price. Its just one street before modelink at sukhumvit soi4. ITS called Naree Suites. Same price. Better rooms cleaner and new and no MOSQUITOES. BTW. Internet here is free.
Chiangmai = I have stayed at Tapae Gate Guesthouse = cheapest I got was 550baht. Usually they will quote from 600-750baht. Just try to negotiate hehe.
Royal Lanna hotel = best price I got was 1100baht.
Travellers Inn guesthouse just near Raming lodge = 600 baht no discount sadly.
Chiangrai = Diamond Park 2. Well. Last time year 2009 I got it for 500baht BUT FUCKING NEW year NEW price now = 650 BAHT. Fuck.
Orchid guest house = 400 baht. This guest house is near paradise bar or coconut bar. Forgot the road name. Sorry.
Wiang Inn hotel = fucking crazy. Last time was 1400-1500. Now after new years increased to at least 1900-2300. Fuck them.
Saenphu Hotel = last time year 2009 = 550 baht. Fucking new years price = 650 baht for good. This hotel has a disco beside the lobby. So. If you expect peace and quiet do try to get the highest floor. Just my advice.
Actual Massages
Hatyai = I only went to Pink lady. Cheap only 240 baht for 2 hours
You can select ladies for the side. If I remember correctly they will be wearing pink or green. Several nice beautifuls I have taken = number 20, number 4 new from chiangmai number 58,
Bangkok = tried many. Too many names. The one I like is actually Naree massage. They have a nice selection of young ladies. Most of them!. So its just a minute walk from my place. They could even go to your room since you rent the room from them. BTW. You can fuck these ladies. I think the price was 1500baht. Massage for 2 hours was 500baht.
Chiangmai = tried a few places as well. = Yin yang, unwind and many others on Loi Kroh street. 300 baht for 2 hours. Erm. The ones that left me good impressions was Sawasdee massage and Chang Daeng 1 and Chang Daeng 2. Chang Daeng has quite a few young ladies. Grope them. BUT NO FUCKING. You can get them to go to your room at nite though if they like you. They will go. The one I got was 23 and went to my room. I gave her 500 baht tip and she went off happy. Short time
Chiangrai = massages here are so so. I remember Sakura and Amporn massages. They are side by side. Near the Paradise bar and coconut bar as well.
EXCHANGING MONEY
I love to exchange my money with the best prices as I would get the most out of it and a bang for my buck. I'm a stingy fucker. I never change at banks as well.
Hatyai = There are 2 places that I usually go. Just adjacent of Lee Gardens and the right side of Lee Garden. These 2 shops has the BEST prices and by the way they are like Bus Tour shops. NO PLACE better's this 2. I'm talking base on Malaysian Ringgit. And a few other major currencies.
Bangkok = I think the best place to change money here is at Sukhumvit Soi3/1. These is an Arab lane. Walk along this road. Then you will see the 1st small shop that exchanges money. Fuck that shop. Turn right. Then at your left and right are shops that exchanges money as well.
Walk another 100 meters on your left the small shop HAS THE BEST EXCHANGE RATE. Tell her you goin to change ALOT but not the amount. She will change her rate and then. You decide. Ehhehe. Thats what I did. Its even better than VASU or Super rich.
Chiangmai = there is this one place just along the same road as Chiangmai Cafe. Forgot the name. Or from Royal Lanna hotel lobby turn left. Walk straight up you will see that money exchange. This is the best money exchange in Chiangmai. No other places. But the exchange rates ARENT AS good as Bangkok.
Chiangrai = NO FUCKING MONEY CHANGERS at all that I know of. FUCK. So the best I got from a BANK. Kasikorn BANK gives the best rate for EXCHANGE in MALAYSIAN ringgit. FOR US dollar I find UOB the best.
Fucking
Hatyai = I have got to know this guy. He works near the bus station. He brought me somewhere around the bus station. Most of the girls there are around 1200baht. 1600baht. From 6pm onwards. They are workers that work in the govt sector and some from university. I have seen alot of Mongolians and Vietnamese as well. This guy Adnan told me these are called the Red Chinese. For some reason?
Pink Lady = prices are from 1600baht. 2500 for sideline models
BKK = I fucked like a mad dog here. Too many experiences. I cannot give you full reports. But just places I have went. And my humble opinion
Poseidon = level 2 = prices range from 2000. 2700 baht. Girls here are ok. Looks average from 5-7.
Level 3 of poseidon = prices range from 2900 onwards to most expensive 4500. I have tried them. Looks average from 6-8. 5. Fucking level 2 is better. Looks level 3 in my opinion.
Emmanuelle = girls are ok. Nice as well. Looks from 6-7. 5. Prices from cheapest 2200. 3700baht. BTW. Emmanuelle and casanova is the same place. Casanova is the just the more expensive part where they hold the slightly more expensive girls. I might be wrong?
Caesars =. Girls are better than emmanuelle. Place looks better. Girls looks from 6. 8. Prices start from 2300. Most expensive 4300.
Nataree Massage = this IS A FUCKING AWESOME PLACE TO FUCK!. Time to go around 1. 30pm. 2. 30pm. BE THERE. The bowl is 2000. The girls outside range from 2300-5000. 5000 = those girls that are new. Or just started fucking.. DOMINATE THEM. I did try one. Didn't know nothing about fucking. So. I did all the work. Guys. If you don't like this. Please refrain from choosing the expensive ones. I am not sure if she is really new or not. But I find her really fresh. LOL. Lets just put it not so refine in her skills. Looks = 6-8. 5
Lords the Spa = this place is fucking fucking high class. Thats how they fucking portrayed themselves. Girls prices start from a crazy 3100baht. To 7100baht. Fuck them. I tried the one 5600 baht. It was just ok. Looks 6-8.
Colonze = stupid place. I will never go again. Same road as Lords the Spa. Looks = 3-6. I walked off almost immediately.
Darling massage = not my type. Looks 3-5. Near asok BST. Or if you see the king and I spa or massage same street.
Cupidy = standard has gone down. Please try to not go by taxi. Taxi commission = 500baht. Looks still ok 6-7. 5. Price range from 2000-2500 without taxi commission.
Top floor of Cupidy or Entertainment Plaza to be exact Level 2. = I think girls selection here are better. looks from 6-8. 8. Prices = from 2200baht. 3400baht.
To be continued as going for dinner now!
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[QUOTE=M P Lurker] ..........Many Thai nicknames are quite common.[/QUOTE]
I've fucked couple of Moo's, (PIG) and 1 girl who's name was PIH, which translates as Pussy!
[quote=bumholes1]i've fucked couple of moo's, (pig) and 1 girl who's name was pih, which translates as pussy![/quote]
i knew a girl called "moo" (piggy) who was skinny as a skeleton. amusingly inappropriate.
perhaps pih is short for "ga-bpi" (both syllables very short) being slang for pussy.
there is a also word "bpee" (falling tone) meaning to boom-boom. but no one would have this for a name. :d
the normal words for pussy (genital) are "jim" and "hoi" both with rising tone.
a somewhat crude euphemism is "mor" (falling tone) officially meaning pot. there is a very crude word "hee" also meaning pussy but i suggest guys not use this one as its very rude.
i have been told "huu bpen hee" :( meaning "(my) ear is (like) a pussy", when i couldn't hear properly what the girl was saying in a noisy place.
Finally I got a damn valid excuse to go back to Thailand that the mrs won't be sus about.
I have to get wisdom teeth removed and a implant. Checked prices in Australia and they quoted prices in excess of $4k because I don't have hospital cover.
I had a look on the internet but they were obviously directed towards farang so they're quite expensive.
Can anyone recommend a good place to go to in Thailand to get dental work done as well as some P4P? BKK, Pattaya??
Thanks in advance,
Harry
Very good, I use them whenever needed.
[url]http://www.bangkoksmiledental.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Happy Harry]Finally I got a damn valid excuse to go back to Thailand that the mrs won't be sus about.
I have to get wisdom teeth removed and a implant. Checked prices in Australia and they quoted prices in excess of $4k because I don't have hospital cover.
I had a look on the internet but they were obviously directed towards farang so they're quite expensive.
Can anyone recommend a good place to go to in Thailand to get dental work done as well as some P4P? BKK, Pattaya??
Thanks in advance,
Harry[/QUOTE]
I liked the dentist on the left side of Soi5 off Jomtien beach road almost to the end. reasonable and good, too. good angrit as well
they have different implant prices - depends on how much you want to spend. base price is about $1000US per
[QUOTE=M P Lurker]I have been told "huu bpen hee" :( meaning "(my) ear is (like) a pussy", when I couldn't hear properly what the girl was saying in a noisy place.[/QUOTE]Don't know this one, but it may be related to when a girl hears something in a noisy place or at a distance and someone says "Huu dii". Literally, "good ears", but it's really one of those switch-the-first-consonant things, and becomes "Duu hii" -- I see your pussy.
But yeah, "hii" is not a good word for any farang to use.
[QUOTE=Exit93]EXCHANGING MONEY
Bangkok = I think the best place to change money here is at Sukhumvit Soi3/1. These is an Arab lane. Walk along this road. Then you will see the 1st small shop that exchanges money. Fuck that shop. Turn right. Then at your left and right are shops that exchanges money as well.
Walk another 100 meters on your left the small shop HAS THE BEST EXCHANGE RATE.[/QUOTE]That first shop has the advantage that it stays open late when all the 'regular' change places are shut (I didn't see the others so they may stay open as well). The rate was not bad, and certainly better than the hotel rate.
In my opinion, the very best place to go for top quality dental work, fast, is the Chiang Mai Dental Hospital.
It also has the advantage that all other prosthetic work is done on the premises too, so everything is as fast as it could ever be.
And teh price is excellent.
G
I gather, then, that "hee" is the Thai equivalent of "c.u.n.t"? tone? I can go look it up...
[QUOTE=Betong]But yeah, "hii" is not a good word for any farang to use.[/QUOTE]
Really? Are you sure? And I thought telling a girl "Hee Men (Mein)" was a compliment... ;)
[QUOTE=Dinghy]I gather, then, that "hee" is the Thai equivalent of "c.u.n.t"? tone?[/QUOTE]Yep, and it would have about the same impact if you dropped it at a garden party. Rising tone.
Out last night with a FL girl I've known for a while who has a real job as well. A buddy bring along a girl that happens to be friends with another girl I know from a bar. At some point the BG says to my buddy that she worries that the FL may be tricking me since she knows all the places the WGs go (Spasso, Bossy, Spicey, etc). Apparently she doesn't realize this girl is a FL.
Is there any benefit to setting the record straight? Do I look too much like a mark if she thinks I'm being led on?
[QUOTE=Pita123]Out last night with a FL girl I've known for a while who has a real job as well. A buddy bring along a girl that happens to be friends with another girl I know from a bar. At some point the BG says to my buddy that she worries that the FL may be tricking me since she knows all the places the WGs go (Spasso, Bossy, Spicey, etc). Apparently she doesn't realize this girl is a FL.
Is there any benefit to setting the record straight? Do I look too much like a mark if she thinks I'm being led on?[/QUOTE]
Isn't the most important question why you care what she thinks, right or wrong?
I would like to spend 6 months to a year in Thailand starting sometime later this year. I work online so I what I'd like to know is what type of visa would I need to stay in Thailand for upwards of 1 year while working there on my online biz?
Also, I'd have a budget of about US$4-5K per month, which will be increased later on. Is that enough to be able to rent a nice apart (nothing luxurious but nice enough in a good and safe neighbourhood somewhere near a nice beach, eating 99% of the time out and going out everynight? Is that achievable or not enough on that amount?
I thank you all for your valuable feedback,
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]I would like to spend 6 months to a year in Thailand starting sometime later this year. I work online so I what I'd like to know is what type of visa would I need to stay in Thailand for upwards of 1 year while working there on my online biz?
Also, I'd have a budget of about US$4-5K per month, which will be increased later on. Is that enough to be able to rent a nice apart (nothing luxurious but nice enough in a good and safe neighbourhood somewhere near a nice beach, eating 99% of the time out and going out everynight? Is that achievable or not enough on that amount?
I thank you all for your valuable feedback,
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
You can live in a luxury condo on the beach like a King here in Pattaya Thailand on $4-5K/mo.
You might qualify for a long term non-immigrant visa depending on how old you are, and whether you meet other requirements; or you can simply get a 3 month tourist visa and make visa runs to keep it renewed.
I'm doing right now what you're thinking about, and living well on a lot less money.
I don't know where else to put this question, so here goes:
I've noticed that the new batch of Kamagra being sold in Pattaya, while being much better 'condition' - as in not so liquified, doesn't taste so bad, etc. - seems much weaker in terms of the active ingredient. I get less side effect and much less of the intended effect.
You can tell this new batch from the old because the tear-packages are much higher quality, and the gel inside is actually still a gel instead of liquified from heat exposure, breaking down, etc. But it is still inferior as far as I can tell.
Have any of you gentlemen had similar experiences?
Another thing I bought from Soi Buakhao, near LK Metro, while was searching viagra or cialis. It was Pnegra 4tab for 350bht. The lady told me she has lots of customers and startinting efect within 20min to 45min and reported well. For me it worked within 10min and continued for 24 hrs. But it is first I got something stimulent.
[QUOTE=Opebo]I don't know where else to put this question, so here goes:
I've noticed that the new batch of Kamagra being sold in Pattaya, while being much better 'condition' - as in not so liquified, doesn't taste so bad, etc. - seems much weaker in terms of the active ingredient. I get less side effect and much less of the intended effect.
You can tell this new batch from the old because the tear-packages are much higher quality, and the gel inside is actually still a gel instead of liquified from heat exposure, breaking down, etc. But it is still inferior as far as I can tell.
Have any of you gentlemen had similar experiences?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mua Tur]Another thing I bought from Soi Buakhao, near LK Metro, while was searching viagra or cialis. It was Pnegra 4tab for 350bht. The lady told me she has lots of customers and startinting efect within 20min to 45min and reported well. For me it worked within 10min and continued for 24 hrs. But it is first I got something stimulent.[/QUOTE]Penegra is just "generic" Viagra.
Made in India, comes in 100mg tablets and its 300 baht for 4 tablets. Readily available, just ask.
[QUOTE=Opebo]I don't know where else to put this question, so here goes:
I've noticed that the new batch of Kamagra being sold in Pattaya, while being much better 'condition' - as in not so liquified, doesn't taste so bad, etc. - seems much weaker in terms of the active ingredient. I get less side effect and much less of the intended effect.
You can tell this new batch from the old because the tear-packages are much higher quality, and the gel inside is actually still a gel instead of liquified from heat exposure, breaking down, etc. But it is still inferior as far as I can tell.
Have any of you gentlemen had similar experiences?[/QUOTE]
As far as I know there is no GEL type of this medicine. I regularly buy this and the "Cialis" in India and have never come across the liquid/gel type. I picked up 20 packs of Penegra in Jan and there was no mention of this type by the pharmacist.
I could be wrong, but I will checkout the gel/liquid version later this month when I visit India again. In the meantime be safe and don't get ripped off.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]As far as I know there is no GEL type of this medicine. I regularly buy this and the "Cialis" in India and have never come across the liquid/gel type. I picked up 20 packs of Penegra in Jan and there was no mention of this type by the pharmacist.
I could be wrong, but I will checkout the gel/liquid version later this month when I visit India again. In the meantime be safe and don't get ripped off.[/QUOTE]
Yeah [url=http://images04.olx.es/ui/2/58/47/21995147_1.jpg]the gel[/url] is every where in Thailand and I've been taking it for years.
I always pay 70 baht per sachet, but normal price is 100 baht per.
[QUOTE=Opebo]I don't know where else to put this question, so here goes:
I've noticed that the new batch of Kamagra being sold in Pattaya, while being much better 'condition'. As in not so liquified, doesn't taste so bad, etc.. Seems much weaker in terms of the active ingredient. I get less side effect and much less of the intended effect.
You can tell this new batch from the old because the tear-packages are much higher quality, and the gel inside is actually still a gel instead of liquified from heat exposure, breaking down, etc. But it is still inferior as far as I can tell.
Have any of you gentlemen had similar experiences?[/QUOTE]I have heard that there are lots of batches of fake Kamagra getting sold. Tablet form. It is made from chalk. Anyone selling Kamagra for substantially less than the drugstores might be trying to flog off the fake stuff.
[QUOTE=Mr Enforcer]I have heard that there are lots of batches of fake Kamagra getting sold. Tablet form. It is made from chalk. Anyone selling Kamagra for substantially less than the drugstores might be trying to flog off the fake stuff.[/QUOTE]
Underground reports like many things it's coming from China, they say it's not chalk but material from sheetrock.
Thanks Daddy07 for your reply.
I probably won't qualify for the retirement visa which I understand is for people over 55 (correct me if i'm wrong) as I'll be 30 later this year.
Speaking of the 3 months tourist visa you mention, how many times one can make the visa run? Is there a limit as to how many times one can do it?
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]You can live in a luxury condo on the beach like a King here in Pattaya Thailand on $4-5K/mo.
You might qualify for a long term non-immigrant visa depending on how old you are, and whether you meet other requirements; or you can simply get a 3 month tourist visa and make visa runs to keep it renewed.
I'm doing right now what you're thinking about, and living well on a lot less money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Thanks Daddy07 for your reply.
I probably won't qualify for the retirement visa which I understand is for people over 55 (correct me if i'm wrong) as I'll be 30 later this year.
Speaking of the 3 months tourist visa you mention, how many times one can make the visa run? Is there a limit as to how many times one can do it?
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
You can get a retirement visa at age 50. I'll gladly trade you mine for your youth. :)
I'm not sure about the tourist visa situation as the rules change frequently.
Take a look at the Pattaya Expats Club web site which has a lot of information about visas: [url]http://www.pattayaexpatsclub.com/[/url]
You can also go to the website of your nearest Thai Consulate or Embassy and I'm sure you'll get all the up to date info you need.
[QUOTE=Opebo]Yeah [url=http://images04.olx.es/ui/2/58/47/21995147_1.jpg]the gel[/url] is every where in Thailand and I've been taking it for years.
I always pay 70 baht per sachet, but normal price is 100 baht per.[/QUOTE]
Wake up Opebo. They are cheating you BIG.
I am paying 30baht/piece in Pattaya. I have to buy the 50piece packet tho for 1.500 baht.
My 2 sachets LOL
Any latest info about the red shirt demonstrations that they were announced to take place some time mid February?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Daddy07]You can get a retirement visa at age 50. I'll gladly trade you mine for your youth. :)
I'm not sure about the tourist visa situation as the rules change frequently.
Take a look at the Pattaya Expats Club web site which has a lot of information about visas: [url]http://www.pattayaexpatsclub.com/[/url]
You can also go to the website of your nearest Thai Consulate or Embassy and I'm sure you'll get all the up to date info you need.[/QUOTE]
Sprite13
The information Daddy07, provided is accurate, 50 years old. As for the pattayaexpatclub.com no longer belongs to the Club. Without going into details someone took the website .com so it is now ending in . info!
Once you are in the website look for and contact Key Visa a guy name Darren and ask your question regarding how to stay in Thailand.
As for your budget, you should live like a king as noted..
LBM
[QUOTE=El Greco]Wake up Opebo. ...I have to buy the 50piece packet tho for 1.500 baht.[/QUOTE]
I just buy them one at a time, or at most five at a time. I don't like things like that around for fear the cops will bust me with them.
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Thanks Daddy07 for your reply.
I probably won't qualify for the retirement visa which I understand is for people over 55 (correct me if i'm wrong) as I'll be 30 later this year.
Speaking of the 3 months tourist visa you mention, how many times one can make the visa run? Is there a limit as to how many times one can do it?
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
My understanding is you get a 30 day tourist visa, and you can do two visa runs in six months.
So you can stay on a tourist visa for 3 months within a 6 month period, you could always spend the other 3 months in another part of Asia.
Thanks guys for your valuable feedback. Much appreciated.
I'll ask more questions as my trip nears.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Mr Enforcer]I have heard that there are lots of batches of fake Kamagra getting sold. Tablet form. It is made from chalk. Anyone selling Kamagra for substantially less than the drugstores might be trying to flog off the fake stuff.[/QUOTE]There are lots of guys selling branded Viagra and Cialis (ie not generic) from stalls along Sukhumvit at ridiculously low prices. These are definitely fake, and probably are only chalk-dust. They also sell generic V and C at good prices. Would you buy it from these guys?
Go to a reputable pharmacy and you up your chances of getting active drugs.
A lot of the effect is psychological, and I haven't done a proper experiment, but... I bought a lot of V and C in India and in my opinion it is either very weak or inactive. In future I will buy from Thai pharmacies.
[QUOTE=Mouse1]There are lots of guys selling branded Viagra and Cialis (ie not generic) from stalls along Sukhumvit at ridiculously low prices. These are definitely fake, and probably are only chalk-dust. They also sell generic V and C at good prices. Would you buy it from these guys?
Go to a reputable pharmacy and you up your chances of getting active drugs.
A lot of the effect is psychological, and I haven't done a proper experiment, but... I bought a lot of V and C in India and in my opinion it is either very weak or inactive. In future I will buy from Thai pharmacies.[/QUOTE]
The best ones are definitely Cambodian. You find them (under another name which I don't remember) in the pharmacies near the market in Phnom Penh, but I also saw them at the border in Poipet. They cost peanuts (something like $5 a box or less) and work really good. If you make a visa run there you can fill up for the year.
[QUOTE=Denom]The best ones are definitely Cambodian.[/QUOTE]This has come up before, but suffice to say that buying drugs in Cambodia is a crapshoot. Roughly 80% of the pharmacies are unregistered, i.e. illegal. Overall about 30-40% of the drugs on sale are fake, and the percentage seems to be even higher among ED drugs. Much more info available online -- start for example at the Ka-set news site.
If what you've bought works for you and you're happy, no problem. But as a general recommendation, there are better options than Cambodia.
[QUOTE=Denom]The best ones are definitely Cambodian. You find them (under another name which I don't remember) in the pharmacies near the market in Phnom Penh, but I also saw them at the border in Poipet. They cost peanuts (something like $5 a box or less) and work really good. If you make a visa run there you can fill up for the year.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I agree. I have often gotten my cialis at one of those pharmacies to the east of the central market. Every pack was 100% good stuff.
Dear Moderator: For relevance purposes and the references I have made to the Thai baht, I have posted this first part to my report in both the Thailand and DR forums.
Dominican Republic. Is it really like Thailand?
Part 1
Getting to know a particular place well over the years has its advantages. From the moment you touch down and those jet engines roar into reverse thrust ‘Announcing I have at last arrived’ the rest just gets easier after each trip.
Like how to beat those long, long lines at passport control; where and where not to change money, which taxi (or if you are very clever) which just-as-quick bus to use.
You get to know where to stay and what times of year not to bother even trying for a lower price, first choice then second choice (and failing that there is always plan B); you get to know the best areas and bars to go to and above all, just as if it was your own business, you know all the prices and the current going rate for Lt p4p, Short time etc, etc like the back of your hand.
The other main advantage with being so familiar with a particular place is the fact that you can probably fit in more in a week than you normally would in two weeks, or more, with all the screw ups and nonstarters and culture shock which goes with traveling to any faraway foreign country for the first time. With all this in mind only a week away anywhere in the world can be good value. That is, until the inevitable happens and that same ‘old’ familiar place starts to turn into that same ‘old boring place.’
I wouldn’t call Thailand a boring place exactly, but having got to know the country and a bit of the language even, over the years, (for that read a lot), where else in the world are you going to get that same sun, sea and sand; city life if I wanted it and beach resorts (with more than just a few shacks or one or two expensive hotels for night time entertainment) together with the same sort of girlfriend experience and value for money which in the whole of SE Asia, in my opinion, only Thailand truly delivers by ticking all the right boxes.
During those good times of course the Dominican Republic as a possible alternative never really crossed my mind.
So going back to basics and really needing a change I started to read up on this alleged Caribbean island of paradise and indeed found some similarities with the land of smiles.
Like, providing you get it right, with stopovers from the UK the flight time is about the same 14 to 15 hours. The return airfare is about the same price too but with some subtle differences like indirect flights to the DR tend to be about the same price range as the direct flights to Bangkok; and quicker direct flights to the DR from the UK tend to be around the same price range as indirect flights to Thailand. Seems a bid odd I know but those cheaper direct flights to the DR tend to be operated by the charter type package holiday airlines with less leg room that go only about 1or 2 times a week max, and most fly into airports on the island which to put it mildly are not convenient. But more about that later.
Other similarities include the same rainy low season months, especially from July onwards (which in the DR is the Hurricane season) which technically makes it the low season with lower prices.
But at anytime of the year good clean girl friendly hotels or an apartment with A/c, wi fi, nice restaurant, bar and pool starts from $40.00US (but pushing it a bit) to up to around $50 to $55.00US per night on average. Beware though of the so called mainly luxury all inclusive child-free adult beach resorts which in the DR are far from ‘adult’ for the only thing they do actually ban are ‘hookers’ or overnight guests.
So comparing the Dominican pesos prices with the Thai baht using XE.com as a guide:
A few hours back at your hotel with a decent freelancer for massage and at least a BL and BJ 1,500 pesos (1,400 Thai baht)
Normal full body massage at a proper massage place 800 pesos (730 Thai baht)
Massage with hand relief at a proper massage place 1,300 pesos (1,200 Thai baht)
All night (or all day) full sex from 2,000 pesos or really pushing the boat out 3,000 pesos (1,800 -2,700 Thai baht)
Private dance in a top strip club 500 pesos (460 Thai baht - but this would usually be free in Thailand in a definitely free to enter Go-go bar.
‘Salida’ Exit fee (bar fine to Thailand mongerers) 300 pesos (275 Thai baht) slightly lower than in Thailand.
Even drinks in the girly bars seemed to be around the same price.
Local Predidente beer for 100 pesos (around 90 Thai baht. The local Sigha beer in any Thai Go-go bar averages at 95 baht ).
Large strong rum and coke 150 pesos (140 baht).
So far so good. Wink
More facts:
Actually being bigger than Switzerland, the DR is not a small country and just like Thailand where getting a girl can be as easy as shooting a fish in a barrel full of fishes, not every area in the DR, just like in Thailand, is good for mongering. The difference with Thailand though is that there are only two International airports that you would normally fly into - Bangkok or Phuket and arriving at either you won’t go wrong. In the DR there are around 7 International airports currently in full time use spread around the island which depending on the time of day or night you arrive, could leave you stranded and seriously out of pocket if you are doing the trip on your own and have to arrange your own taxi transfers. I read the taxi drivers union is strong in the DR and any of the reliable to often unreliable buses will not go anywhere near the airports. To me that looks like big taxi $$Dollar Signs.
So where are the best mongering places to go?
If we are taking not first division but the ‘Premier Super league’ there are only two areas and only two airports to head for in the DR:
The Puerto Plato, Sosua and Cabarete areas in the north of the island served by (POP) Gregorio Luperón International Airport no more than $20 to $25US and 11 miles or 20 minutes away by taxi.
The Capital Santo Domingo and the nearby beach resort of Boca Chica in the south of the island served by (SDQ) Las Americas International Airport no more than $25 to $30US and up to 30 minutes away by taxi for the 12 miles or so journey.
As a ‘not ideal’ ‘‘plan B’’ or last chance saloon as far as booking cheap flights on the internet, I noticed one alternative for each of these airports.
For the north of the island (STI) Cibao International airport serving the large inland city of Santiago around 35 miles by slow roads from Puerto Plata; or for the south of the island (LRM) La Romana international airport around 50 miles from the resort of Boca chica and 70 miles (90 minutes by taxi) from Santo Domingo. (I thought I’ll pass on that one.)
Making the booking (flight only):
Living in a big city and really longing for a bit of sun, sea and sand, my first choice for a hassle free trip was the Puerto Plata/Sosua area in the north of the island. For Boca Chica in the south I had read mixed reviews. Apparently, due to this famous or now infamous tourist beach resort going over the top a bit, with the kind of negative publicity the people in power did not want, there was a recent clampdown, big time, and as a result Boca Chica if I had read it correctly has started to go downhill.
The only reasonably flight I could find to POP was disappointingly unavailable by the time I went back to book it. Lesson learnt here; grab it while it’s there for this one-off charter baby was only £278.00 return, be it at the last minute.
So back to the drawing board again and there were two final options,
a 14.5 hour flight on US Airways via Philadelphia arriving (at my second choice) SDQ at 22:30 for £515 return, or the devil I knew, 11 hour direct flight on Thai Airways to Bangkok arriving early in the morning for £562 return, something I could do again with my eyes closed. Decisions, decisions.
I did it. I pressed that no point of return credit card booking icon on the computer screen and waited. The US Airways confirmed booking reference and flight itinerary looked quite sweet when I printed it off.
Santo Domingo here I come.
Full Trip Report to follow.
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Yes, I know it is not really an 'investment' but more of a way to get permanent residence, but has anyone gone through that route of putting 10M Baht in either a bank account or property in order to get an "Investment Visa"?
As an Egyptian passport holder who has to endure painful steps in order to get the normal Tourist Visa from the Thai embassy in my home country, I thought this would be a better alternative.
Can you rent out this property you invest 10M in?
I'm going to LOS during Songran and want to make the most of it. Need to know others experiences with what is open etc.
So where is it best to stay? Could do Pattaya but is it packed with locals? Does that make it better? Are all the bars open?
Could do Chiang Mai taking the train up the evening before. Again, is it busy there? Are things open.
Should I go somewhere else like Koh Samai, Phuket or Hau Hin as they have something unique for both cultural events and also mongering is also present of course.
Thanks as always
Girls are often rated on a 1-to-10 scale. On every punter board, someone will write that a certain bar has a girl who is 10; another bar doesn't have a dancer higher than a 7; or the girls on Beach road are only 3s and 4s.
But what do such ratings mean? what standard is used to judge the girls?
Note: For illustrative purposes, all the photos of "10s" attached to this post have been downloaded from the Miss Universe 2009 Web site.
There are two (and only two) possibilities: the 1-t0-10 scale is an objective standard or it's totally subjective and individual. To be objective, it would have to be a conformation standard, i.e., the girl is measured by the degree to which she conforms to an ideal concept of beauty, with 10 representing the best, the ultimate, maybe even perfection. It's the same principle used in judging dog shows and some sports, like figure skating and gymnastics.
But there's a huge difference between the conformation standards used by dog show judges and those bantered about by Pattaya punters. The American Kennel Club has detailed written standards for each breed of dog. Everyone in the dog show world - breeders, competitors and judges - understands and accepts these standards. The same is true for figure skating and gymnastics. There are whole written manuals which explicitly state the standards by which routines are to be measured.
No such widely agreed standard, written or unwritten, exists for judging beauty in women. There is no universal agreement about what makes a woman attractive. There are as many opinions as there are assholes and both are in strong supply on the punter boards.
The 1-to-10 scale is simply a variation on "One man's beauty is another man's skank." When a poster gives a girl a rating of 10, he's saying he thinks she's very pretty, nothing more. The 1-to-10 scale can be entertaining, but it's a totally subjective exercise.
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]...The 1-to-10 scale is simply a variation on "One man's beauty is another man's skank." When a poster gives a girl a rating of 10, he's saying he thinks she's very pretty, nothing more. The 1-to-10 scale can be entertaining, but it's a totally subjective exercise.
Evil[/QUOTE]
And a good thing too, or we'd all be chasing after the same pussy.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Girls are often rated on a 1-to-10 scale. On every punter board, someone will write that a certain bar has a girl who is 10; another bar doesn't have a dancer higher than a 7; or the girls on Beach road are only 3s and 4s.
But what do such ratings mean? what standard is used to judge the girls?
Note: For illustrative purposes, all the photos of "10s" attached to this post have been downloaded from the Miss Universe 2009 Web site.
There are two (and only two) possibilities: the 1-t0-10 scale is an objective standard or it's totally subjective and individual. To be objective, it would have to be a conformation standard, i.e., the girl is measured by the degree to which she conforms to an ideal concept of beauty, with 10 representing the best, the ultimate, maybe even perfection. It's the same principle used in judging dog shows and some sports, like figure skating and gymnastics.
But there's a huge difference between the conformation standards used by dog show judges and those bantered about by Pattaya punters. The American Kennel Club has detailed written standards for each breed of dog. Everyone in the dog show world - breeders, competitors and judges - understands and accepts these standards. The same is true for figure skating and gymnastics. There are whole written manuals which explicitly state the standards by which routines are to be measured.
No such widely agreed standard, written or unwritten, exists for judging beauty in women. There is no universal agreement about what makes a woman attractive. There are as many opinions as there are assholes and both are in strong supply on the punter boards.
The 1-to-10 scale is simply a variation on "One man's beauty is another man's skank." When a poster gives a girl a rating of 10, he's saying he thinks she's very pretty, nothing more. The 1-to-10 scale can be entertaining, but it's a totally subjective exercise.
Evil[/QUOTE]
It has to be a personal scale: We can gauge a poster's personal satisfaction by his ratings. Otherwise, I concur with your view that it's about personal attraction. Excellent POV IMO.
[QUOTE=Popper8469]I'm going to LOS during Songran and want to make the most of it. Need to know others experiences with what is open etc.
So where is it best to stay? Could do Pattaya but is it packed with locals? Does that make it better? Are all the bars open?
Could do Chiang Mai taking the train up the evening before. Again, is it busy there? Are things open.
Should I go somewhere else like Koh Samai, Phuket or Hau Hin as they have something unique for both cultural events and also mongering is also present of course.
Thanks as always[/QUOTE]Quick bump of this to see if anyone can give me a good steer.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Girls are often rated on a 1-to-10 scale. On every punter board, someone will write that a certain bar has a girl who is 10; another bar doesn't have a dancer higher than a 7; or the girls on Beach road are only 3s and 4s.[/quote]The English have coined a phrase,very aptly,each to his own/beauty lies in the eye of the beholder!
I am going to post this in all three country forums and evaluate the responses over the next day or two before deciding. I would really appreciate your opinions.
I am planning my first trip in April for a week to either Vietnam, Thailand or the Philippines.
Would you please offer your opinions to someone who has never been to either of these places?
I love to monger but I also enjoy going to some of the touristy/scenic/historic locations of countries I visit.
I was thinking that Vietnam might be a good combination because I was in the service during the Vietnam War, although not actually in Vietnam. But there are many important places there that I would like to see. I'm just not sure how much I can do of the visiting while also taking care of the mongering especially since I will only be there for a week and many of the Vietnam era sights are spread out and may be in smaller cities or rural areas.
The other choices are Thailand and the Philippines. Thailand is definitely cheaper than Manilla to fly to from Los Angeles. Plus I read on the threads that it costs less to monger in Thailand than in the Philippines.
I think there might be some more important historical and other sights to see in Thailand than in the Philippines, but that is just an impression. I am not sure what I would do in the Philippines other than monger. I am not a beach person due to my age (59) and fair skin.
I would appreciate your thoughts. Please don't read into the above comments that I necessarily prefer Vietnam. In fact I was originally thinking about the Philippines, then about Thailand due to the cost of the flights. I then started thinking about Vietnam but it is still only a thought.
I am first and foremost committed to the mongering aspects and would like that to be given the largest weight in any advice you care to give.
Also if you think there is somewhere else I should consider like Jakarta or Singapore for my first ever mongering trip please let me know.
Thank you very much for your insights.
ER2
Easy Rider,
You only have a week, so that tells me Thailand. It is the most user friendly for everything you want to do. Certainly for the mongering, it couldn't be easier, but it is also a better organized country for traveling and sightseeing. Fantastic food, plenty to see and do. If your first SE Asia trip is a good one, you can always branch out to the other places, but you really need to try to schedule a longer visit next time.
[QUOTE=Easy Rider 2]I am going to post this in all three country forums and evaluate the responses over the next day or two before deciding. I would really appreciate your opinions.
I am planning my first trip in April for a week to either Vietnam, Thailand or the Philippines.
Would you please offer your opinions to someone who has never been to either of these places?
I love to monger but I also enjoy going to some of the touristy/scenic/historic locations of countries I visit.
I was thinking that Vietnam might be a good combination because I was in the service during the Vietnam War, although not actually in Vietnam. But there are many important places there that I would like to see. I'm just not sure how much I can do of the visiting while also taking care of the mongering especially since I will only be there for a week and many of the Vietnam era sights are spread out and may be in smaller cities or rural areas.
The other choices are Thailand and the Philippines. Thailand is definitely cheaper than Manilla to fly to from Los Angeles. Plus I read on the threads that it costs less to monger in Thailand than in the Philippines.
I think there might be some more important historical and other sights to see in Thailand than in the Philippines, but that is just an impression. I am not sure what I would do in the Philippines other than monger. I am not a beach person due to my age (59) and fair skin.
I would appreciate your thoughts. Please don't read into the above comments that I necessarily prefer Vietnam. In fact I was originally thinking about the Philippines, then about Thailand due to the cost of the flights. I then started thinking about Vietnam but it is still only a thought.
I am first and foremost committed to the mongering aspects and would like that to be given the largest weight in any advice you care to give.
Also if you think there is somewhere else I should consider like Jakarta or Singapore for my first ever mongering trip please let me know.
Thank you very much for your insights.
ER2[/QUOTE]
Thailand.... Manila sucks as a city but getting outside the city there are some nice areas and relaxing things to do. Girls are easy to get but getting around and knowing what to do takes a little getting used to IMHO.
Vietnam sucks for mongering IMHO and they don't speak much english not even bar girl english. Vietnam has some nice historic areas however.
Thailand has a lot going for it more then just sex. You can hit up attractions no matter where you are at, down but Phuket area, Pattaya area, chiang mai area, BKK area, and still have a lovely lady next to you at night.
Don't even consider jakarta or singapore IMHO unless you got extra cash to blow for poorer service. In Pattaya there are things to do besides walking street. IN BKK there are things to do nearby other then NEP or Cowboy or 33. You can hit up Chiang Mai for two days and BKK for a few days or Pattay for a fwe days and bkk for a few days.
I work in all three countries you list and others. And by far I'd hit up Thailand for other places. As for things to do in Thai, depends where you want to stay and what interests you. Feel free to PM me.
HOWEVER... monger can be pretty much free in Philippines, many ladies are non P4P but you'll end up paying in the end anyways one way or another.
Popper you must be a glutton for punishment. MOST farang either stay indoors or get outa Dodge during songkran. It's like a massive bunch of kids doing a water fight - and guess what - YOU GET TO BE A TARGET OF OPPORTUNITY
Myself, the farther away from Pattaya or Grungthep the better during songkran
Take several changes of clothing (you'll NEED it)
Lots of folks go home for the holiday (It's sort of Thai O-BAN - Japanese ancestor festival - it makes more sense at home, because it means more to pour a cup of water over your parents hands and receive their blessing...)
Your choice...
[QUOTE=Easy Rider 2]I am going to post this in all three country forums and evaluate the responses over the next day or two before deciding. I would really appreciate your opinions.
I am planning my first trip in April for a week to either Vietnam, Thailand or the Philippines.
Would you please offer your opinions to someone who has never been to either of these places?
I love to monger but I also enjoy going to some of the touristy/scenic/historic locations of countries I visit.
I was thinking that Vietnam might be a good combination because I was in the service during the Vietnam War, although not actually in Vietnam. But there are many important places there that I would like to C. I'm just not sure how much I can do of the visiting while also taking care of the mongering especially since I will only be there for a week and many of the Vietnam era sights are spread out and may be in smaller cities or rural areas.
The other choices are Thailand and the Philippines. Thailand is definitely cheaper than Manilla to fly to from Los Angeles. Plus I read on the threads that it costs less to monger in Thailand than in the Philippines.
I think there might be some more important historical and other sights to see in Thailand than in the Philippines, but that is just an impression. I am not sure what I would do in the Philippines other than monger. I am not a beach person due to my age (59) and fair skin.
I would appreciate your thoughts. Please don't read into the above comments that I necessarily prefer Vietnam. In fact I was originally thinking about the Philippines, then about Thailand due to the cost of the flights. I then started thinking about Vietnam but it is still only a thought.
I am first and foremost committed to the mongering aspects and would like that to be given the largest weight in any advice you care to give.
Also if you think there is somewhere else I should consider like Jakarta or Singapore for my first ever mongering trip please let me know.
Thank you very much for your insights.
ER2[/QUOTE]Hi Easy Rider,
I would definitley say Thailand. It was where I went for my very first mongering holiday and I never regretted it for a second.
A week sounds like a long time, however it goes really fast when you are having fun. Before my first trip I researched the forum carefully and took advice from reports by the guys here who are far more skilled than I. Form this I made a plan for each day.
Thailand has some wondefull sites to visit and is very rich from a cultural point of view. I chose to take a lady I met with me on my sightseeing trips and she was a perfect companion as well as guide.
For Singapore I would not reccommend it. I have stayed there on my trips to Tahiland and found the scene very variable. Generally more expensive in my opinion.
Have a great time and use every minute well.
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Easy rider., I too would recommend Thailand. Just came back from 3 weeks and enjoyed it. This was my third trip.. Some of the others here on the board have more time then me but if you want some recomondations for Bangkok just pm me. Also can provide some info for Pattaya.
I am already thinking of returning.
Mackin
[QUOTE=Popper8469]Quick bump of this to see if anyone can give me a good steer.[/QUOTE]
Songran?
water
water
water
water
Do not need a change of clothing if you decide to go out.
Just stay with your shorts (that will get a deep wash), a tee shirts (that will get as wet as the sea) and your flip flops (that will get your feet as wet as a foot bath)
Get ready to tons of water being thrown to you, no matter if youare by foot, on a moped, on a bycicle, on the back of a pick up.
Get ready to icy water showers when the air temperature is 30°C
get ready to your face plastered with white, red powder mixed with...water.
All in all it is an experience one has to live.
DO NOT bring your camera or camcorder unless it is water proof for submarine use.
Do not get pissed if you get wet. Soaking wet!
Have fun, enjoy and when you are back in your room, take a shower!
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Songran?
water
water
water
water
Do not get pissed if you get wet. Soaking wet![/QUOTE]
Actually, yes, I can see Songkran being fun for a tourist but hardly for expats like me.
Luckily, Thais are very well behaved (well, providing you don't hang around the prostitute areas) and when I go around with my suit, I am never wet so, Thank you for respecting. Having said that, it isn't the thais one should worry about but us, Farangs...
Imagine, a man old enough to be anyone's grandpa, running around with a water gun and aiming to shoot up EVERYTHING... because HE is on holidays and having fun, we all have to pay the price.
Nope, Songkran for me isn't so enjoyable so I prefer to either leave the city or stay at home.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]and when I go around with my suit, I am never wet so, Thank you for respecting. Having said that, it isn't the thais one should worry about but us, Farangs...
Imagine, a man old enough to be anyone's grandpa, running around with a water gun and aiming to shoot up EVERYTHING... because HE is on holidays and having fun, we all have to pay the price.
Nope, Songkran for me isn't so enjoyable so I prefer to either leave the city or stay at home.[/QUOTE]
Look on the Pattaya thread I posted that some arse hole sprayed me (farang) while I was in suit going to a meeting in BKK. Since then I avoid Thailand during that time.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Look on the Pattaya thread I posted that some arse hole sprayed me (farang) while I was in suit going to a meeting in BKK. Since then I avoid Thailand during that time.[/QUOTE]
Of course it was a Farang... and in Pattaya? that's got to be the worse ones.
We can say all we want about the Thais, but when it comes to being civilized, they are in average better than most LOS Farangs & Tourists put together.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]
The 1-to-10 scale is simply a variation on "One man's beauty is another man's skank." When a poster gives a girl a rating of 10, he's saying he thinks she's very pretty, nothing more. The 1-to-10 scale can be entertaining, but it's a totally subjective exercise.
Evil[/QUOTE]
Beg to disagree. "Very pretty" means nothing. 10/10 clearly means "among the best looking women I've ever seen". There could be a +/- 5 variation, but if one punter calls a woman 9 or 10, it shouldn't rank under 5 for anyone else else.
There *are* common standards of beauty, indicators of good health and reproductive potential, e.g. youth, symmetry, smooth skin, curves. Within those standards there's plenty of room for variety and individual preference. Beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but most people agree a dog is a dog.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Of course it was a Farang... and in Pattaya? that's got to be the worse ones.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but unfortunately I was sprayed in BKK, someone just asked about the holiday in the Pattaya forum.
I know you love Pattaya so much Nic.... so just for you I saw this and I thought, now this guy could be a current, ex, or maybe future Pattaya resident. :D
But of course I'll be in town March 17 to April ?????
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I know you love Pattaya so much Nic.... so just for you I saw this and I thought, now this guy could be a current, ex, or maybe future Pattaya resident. :D[/QUOTE]
Aw man, when are you going to stop spending hours on the internet looking for photos of naked wierd MEN?
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Aw man, when are you going to stop spending hours on the internet looking for photos of naked wierd MEN?[/QUOTE]
Actually a girl sent it to me, she was mo ho me as she say I butterfly and ting tong and sex too much, she told me that I will probably end up like this...
When I saw it I thought about Nic and how much he just adores Pattaya...
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]When I saw it I thought about Nic and how much he just adores Pattaya...[/QUOTE]
Photos of naked men make you think of Nic ......??????
Is that shit for real ? Looks like the guy has got a semi-boner walking around in public. Maybe he's got some erotic satisfaction from doing that.
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Photos of naked men make you think of Nic ......??????[/QUOTE]
Hehehe, no, but the guy looks like me :)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Hehehe, no, but the guy looks like me :)[/QUOTE]
No wonder the girls love you.
Has anyone heard of any Air Asia promotional fair between BKK and JKT of $41 usd one way ? Their website isn't making it obvious if it indeed exists.
[QUOTE=Bobisee]Has anyone heard of any Air Asia promotional fair between BKK and JKT of $41 usd one way ? Their website isn't making it obvious if it indeed exists.[/QUOTE]
Air Asia is known for their many year round promotions and extremely low fares. Your best move would be to contact them directly and ask for clarification
I am going to make my first trip to LOS on 4/11. I will be in Pattaya almost exclusively but may take a trip to another city for 1-2 days.
I was advised to buy an unlocked phone in the US before going and to just buy a sim card upon arrival.
Is this good advice?
Should I wait to buy the phone and card until I arrive?
Should I try to rent a phone instead?
If I should buy an inexpensive phone in the US what bands should it cover?
Any questions I am forgetting to ask?
Advice appreciated.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Easy Rider 2]I am going to make my first trip to LOS on 4/11. I will be in Pattaya almost exclusively but may take a trip to another city for 1-2 days.
I was advised to buy an unlocked phone in the US before going and to just buy a sim card upon arrival.
Is this good advice?
Should I wait to buy the phone and card until I arrive?
Should I try to rent a phone instead?
If I should buy an inexpensive phone in the US what bands should it cover?
Any questions I am forgetting to ask?
Advice appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I don't see the point of renting a phone.
You could always get your present phone unlocked if your present phone is not very good.
No point in taking a really flash phone with you to LOS you have more chance of getting it stolen.
I use 12call you can get the sim at the airport 99bht and also add credit I normally get 300bht to start of with.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Sorry but unfortunately I was sprayed in BKK, someone just asked about the holiday in the Pattaya forum.
I know you love Pattaya so much Nic.... so just for you I saw this and I thought, now this guy could be a current, ex, or maybe future Pattaya resident. :D
But of course I'll be in town March 17 to April ?????[/QUOTE]
Its not funny guys. He must be suffering from some sort of mental breakdown/illness. Many people go through lots of emotional breakdowns. Its really sad that folks are making immature comments on this forum. You should admire that he has not jumped off the building yet or trying to shoot people around and kill his wife for insurance.
He is not even Thai, i know i know what im saying sound cocky and out there., but i don't see any reason for funny remarks for a naked old man with a mental issue.
[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]I don't see the point of renting a phone.
You could always get your present phone unlocked if your present phone is not very good.
No point in taking a really flash phone with you to LOS you have more chance of getting it stolen.
I use 12call you can get the sim at the airport 99bht and also add credit I normally get 300bht to start of with.[/QUOTE]
My current phone is an iPhone and it is locked. I don't plan to use it in Thailand. So I will have to buy a cheap phone in the US before I go if I do buy one. That's why I was asking for advice.
Should I buy in the US and take a $60-$70 phone that will not be useful to me except in Thailand? Or is there a better option when I arrive?
Thanks,
[QUOTE=Easy Rider 2]... Should I buy in the US and take a $60-$70 phone that will not be useful to me except in Thailand? Or is there a better option when I arrive?[/QUOTE]
You can also buy a cheap phone in Thailand (for less than $50). That's if you really need a phone while on holiday here, of course (to each his own, but I've survived without one during numerous sojourns here when I was just a tourist).
[QUOTE=Easy Rider 2]My current phone is an iPhone and it is locked. I don't plan to use it in Thailand. So I will have to buy a cheap phone in the US before I go if I do buy one. That's why I was asking for advice. Should I buy in the US and take a $60-$70 phone that will not be useful to me except in Thailand? Or is there a better option when I arrive? Thanks,[/QUOTE]You can buy simple mobile phones for less than $25us everywhere in Bangkok or Pattaya. Unless you are planning on extensive texting, or web use, they are fine. Just get a cheapo phone and a SIM card and you'll be all set. You can even call back to to the US cheap (5 baht/min) if you use 009 as a prefix to the US number.
[QUOTE=Bobisee]Has anyone heard of any Air Asia promotional fair between BKK and JKT of $41 usd one way ? Their website isn't making it obvious if it indeed exists.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't doubt it. In September I paid $23 from Singapore to KL and I did book it on their website.
[QUOTE=Opebo]Yeah [url=http://images04.olx.es/ui/2/58/47/21995147_1.jpg]the gel[/url] is every where in Thailand and I've been taking it for years.
I always pay 70 baht per sachet, but normal price is 100 baht per.[/QUOTE]
I usually snatch up two boxes (50ct/box) to sell to friends back home. 5000 baht. 1 box runs 3000 baht. This time my wingman got a box as well, so we were able to get all three for 6000 baht, 40 baht/sachet.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I usually snatch up two boxes (50ct/box) to sell to friends back home. 5000 baht. 1 box runs 3000 baht. This time my wingman got a box as well, so we were able to get all three for 6000 baht, 40 baht/sachet.[/QUOTE]
2k is the usual price for a box.
[QUOTE=Marteau]2k is the usual price for a box.[/QUOTE]
I read that before but I have never been able to get that price at my usual pharmacy or at various other places I have tried.
Air Asia often has great promotions - usually flashing at you on their home page. If you are going during the time they are available, they can be great deals. The one you are referring to is part of their "Vibrant Cities" promotion.
[url]http://www.airasia.com/th/en/promotion/rr0170608b.html[/url]
It's more like $61, and it isn't available every day of the period - search dates carefully.
[QUOTE=Bobisee]Has anyone heard of any Air Asia promotional fair between BKK and JKT of $41 usd one way ? Their website isn't making it obvious if it indeed exists.[/QUOTE]
Hello,
Maybe someone on this forum can enlighten me on this subject;
I am a Swedish citizen, working as an officer on a ship. That means roughly I work for 10 weeks, then I am off 10 weeks. I like to move to Bangkok coming summer, but the new visa rules, makes me question if it is possible or not.
It is my understanding, that when I arrive to Thailand after a working period, I get 30 days "visa on arrival". I can extend this visa 2 times, each time for 2 weeks by making border runs.
But what about after that? I still have 2 weeks to go before I start working again, and one website they said I have to stay out of Thailand for 3 months, after I do the extensions. That will seriously destroy all plans of moving to Thailand.
Many people on this forum seem to live and work in Thailand, so how do you do it? I am not 55 yet(no senior visa) and I do not want to marry a thaigirl, at least not for a long time. What options do I have?
Any response would be greatly appreciated.
See ya around!
I was curious when many of you wrote that you are getting this gel in BKK. I just came back from India and did a thorough search. There is no such thing there. No pharmacist has heard of it.
So whatever you guys are taking is either a fake or sugar pills. But hey, whatever works.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]I was curious when many of you wrote that you are getting this gel in BKK. I just came back from India and did a thorough search. There is no such thing there. No pharmacist has heard of it.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's not sold there, but it's certainly made there. Check out the Ajanta Pharma website -- "Kamagra Oral Jelly", right on the first product page.
I've never tried the stuff, because I don't want the full dose. Easier just to bite the end off a tablet . . . .
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I read that before but I have never been able to get that price at my usual pharmacy or at various other places I have tried.[/QUOTE]
This is the price in Pattaya, maybe in BKK is 2.5-3k .
I've read alot of posting here, but wanted to know what I'm going to expect with ST and LT experiences out in Bangkok.
I'm new to all of this, but what should I expect when I do ST. Is it like in the US where ST is just one pop and they are out? Also for LT, I know the gal is going to be with me all night, but is there a minimum of pops you get?
I know, it's silly question, but I'm just trying to figure out what to expect so I don't get singled out as a newbie out there.
[QUOTE=Easy Rider 2] So I will have to buy a cheap phone in the US before I go if I do buy one. [/QUOTE]
Generally cheap GSM phones in the US do not work outside the US. It's a frequency problem. Cheap US phones usually only work on the GSM-850 and GSM-1900 bands. Most of the rest of the world uses GSM-900 and GSM-1800 bands.
Yes, it's stupid.
Better phones are "quad band" and can work anywhere.
You might get a good deal on an older model unlocked quad band phone on Ebay -- figure around $40 US plus shipping. And then you can pick up a local SIM card and get service pretty much anywhere other than Japan and Korea.
[QUOTE=Bobisee]Has anyone heard of any Air Asia promotional fair between BKK and JKT of $41 usd one way ? Their website isn't making it obvious if it indeed exists.[/QUOTE]
Air Asia has great fares but you have to go to their website and go through most of the booking process before you get the actual price. They tack on surcharges for fuel (which you might think of as a basic requirement!!) and they can sting you on luggage charges.
Don't worry, go ahead and use their website. You don't have to give a credit card until you are confirming the purchase.
Pack light and carry on.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]I was curious when many of you wrote that you are getting this gel in BKK. I just came back from India and did a thorough search. There is no such thing there. No pharmacist has heard of it.[/QUOTE]I have seen it in a Pharmacy in India, however I see more of Caverta TABS being sold.
[QUOTE=Samuking]I've read alot of posting here, but wanted to know what I'm going to expect with ST and LT experiences out in Bangkok.
I'm new to all of this, but what should I expect when I do ST. Is it like in the US where ST is just one pop and they are out? Also for LT, I know the gal is going to be with me all night, but is there a minimum of pops you get?
I know, it's silly question, but I'm just trying to figure out what to expect so I don't get singled out as a newbie out there.[/QUOTE]
Connection with a girl and the time of day can play a part.
Generally, short time with a bar/go-go means one pop and out the door...more money to be made.
Long time generally means action before sleep and action in the morning. However if you pick up and spend some time with a girl, something to eat, dancing or the like, you may be able to go throughout the night with you, and a good portion of the following day lol.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]They tack on surcharges for fuel[/QUOTE]Not any more. In fact they're now one of the better budget airlines in terms of advertised price vs. actual price. Nok Air, which used to be pretty good about this, has gotten so bad with surcharges that I've quit using them.
[QUOTE=Samuking]I've read alot of posting here, but wanted to know what I'm going to expect with ST and LT experiences out in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Time of day and business "prospects" also a factor. On a busy weekend night, more likely she'll want to return as soon as possible for another customer.
Best bet is not be shy and specify EXACTLY what you are expecting (menu, number of shots, time of departure, price). Not exactly "romantic", and eliminates the seduction "fantasy", but it does tend to minimize potential misunderstandings back in the room. No guarantee she'll deliver, but most often she will, and, like I say, at least you'll have minimized any misunderstandings.
Thanks for all the advise so far that I've received. This is the best board for me so far in gathering information and advice.
I'm sure I'll have to negotiate everything before I BF a girl out for LT. (See I'm learning)
I'm going to be so paranoid about leaving my stuff out like my ipod, digital camera, laptop before they show up. Overall I'm really excited about the trip and I hope to report back here.
[QUOTE=11Bravo]Time of day and business "prospects" also a factor. On a busy weekend night, more likely she'll want to return as soon as possible for another customer.
Best bet is not be shy and specify EXACTLY what you are expecting (menu, number of shots, time of departure, price). Not exactly "romantic", and eliminates the seduction "fantasy", but it does tend to minimize potential misunderstandings back in the room. No guarantee she'll deliver, but most often she will, and, like I say, at least you'll have minimized any misunderstandings.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Marteau]This is the price in Pattaya, maybe in BKK is 2.5-3k .[/QUOTE]
I pay 1800thb in BKK.
[QUOTE=Samuking]Thanks for all the advise so far that I've received. This is the best board for me so far in gathering information and advice.
I'm sure I'll have to negotiate everything before I BF a girl out for LT. (See I'm learning)
I'm going to be so paranoid about leaving my stuff out like my ipod, digital camera, laptop before they show up. Overall I'm really excited about the trip and I hope to report back here.[/QUOTE]
The girls will not steal anything that will not fit in their purse/bag. I would lock up wallet,camera etc.
What's better a lax-BKK biz class flight on Thair air or a sfo-BKK biz class flight on United. Thai air will get me there in 3 1/2 hrs less time but I'm curious about the service, food, booze, seat, stews, differences between the 2 biz classes.
Brother, always take an Asian Airline over United or any other US Airline.
It's no contest. Better food, service, and no senior flight attendent attitudes.
Plus, no security paranoia.
[QUOTE=Shemp]What's better a lax-BKK biz class flight on Thair air or a sfo-BKK biz class flight on United. Thai air will get me there in 3 1/2 hrs less time but I'm curious about the service, food, booze, seat, stews, differences between the 2 biz classes.[/QUOTE]
Thai is fine, seats are fine although not fully flat when in lie down mode. Service is fine, good and drink are fine.
United, never tried it.
[QUOTE=Shemp]What's better a lax-BKK biz class flight on Thair air or a sfo-BKK biz class flight on United. Thai air will get me there in 3 1/2 hrs less time but I'm curious about the service, food, booze, seat, stews, differences between the 2 biz classes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shemp]What's better a lax-BKK biz class flight on Thair air or a sfo-BKK biz class flight on United. Thai air will get me there in 3 1/2 hrs less time but I'm curious about the service, food, booze, seat, stews, differences between the 2 biz classes.[/QUOTE]Most airlines suck. I hate flying but you have to do it if you want to get to LOS. So the only thing that really matters is price and flight duration.
If the prices of these two flights are within $100 or so, I would take the Thai Air flight and not think twice. I have flown United. They are one of the worst. I have flown Thai Air from BKK to CNX, Phnom Penh, Yangon and Bali. I have no complaints.
Anybody else flies non stop into BKK from USA?
[QUOTE=Shemp]What's better a lax-BKK biz class flight on Thair air or a sfo-BKK biz class flight on United.[/QUOTE]I prefer UA biz class but not so much that I'd put up with a stopover in Narita.
[QUOTE=Shemp]What's better a lax-BKK biz class flight on Thair air or a sfo-BKK biz class flight on United. Thai air will get me there in 3 1/2 hrs less time but I'm curious about the service, food, booze, seat, stews, differences between the 2 biz classes.[/QUOTE]FMTT. If you've never flown Thai Airways, let alone business class, then DO SO NOW. There's a reason Thai airways, and for that matter, a number of asian airlines, show up in the "best of" lists, while American carriers don't.
If nothing else, you'll have a pleasant time fantasizing about the YOUNG stews on Thai airways (I'm guessing they have an age limit when they have to STOP flying), whereas I've NEVER done that on an American long haul ride, given the [u]matrons[/u] who have the [u]seniority[/u] to grab the long haul routes.
[QUOTE=Shemp]What's better a lax-BKK biz class flight on Thair air or a sfo-BKK biz class flight on United. Thai air will get me there in 3 1/2 hrs less time but I'm curious about the service, food, booze, seat, stews, differences between the 2 biz classes.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I would rather fly coach on an Asian airline, such as Cathay Pacific or Thai Air, than business on a U.S. carrier. You cannot compare the service. During my first flight to LOS, I asked the ticket counter if I could upgrade from coach regardless of price. Nothing was available. He assured me, having never flown Cathay Pacific, that I would be satisfied with an aisle seat. I WAS!!
[QUOTE=Samuking]I'm sure I'll have to negotiate everything before I BF a girl out for LT.[/quote]Just remember, it should be FUN. It's not a hard bargaining, lowest bid accepted win situation. It's just to clarify what each can expect to receive/deliver. If she's not fun during the "marketing" phase, then I certainly would not expect her to be fun during the "implementation" phase. The same could be said for you (that's the 2nd person PLURAL form).
I won't buy her a lady drink unless I'm interested. But when you refuse, don't expect her to remain with you - one part of her salary is a share of the lady drinks she gets. Plus, she'll have a monthly quota of lady drinks; if she doesn't make, her salary is cut.
I won't necessarily buy her friends a drink, but I also understand it's a form of insurance for her - she's got a punter tonight, so she'll ask for her friend, when tomorrow night, the situation could be reversed. I'll make light of the situation with a "I only have eyes for you" statement. But I have done so, especially if I pull her again (1 extra round, anyway).
Like another poster said, spend some time with her, and enjoy. I had great fun inviting a girl out for a late meal and letting her pick the restaurant. Places I never would have found. I've been in places where I was the only foreigner there... Just remember the Thais like to eat, and a number of plates will be ordered. Now if she wants to take all her friends out to a high price nightclub, that's another matter ...
Just be careful about taking her out shopping. The Thais don't seem to grasp the concept of [b]window[/b] shopping. As 1 told me, "Better to stay in the hotel room. If we go out, I see something, I want you to buy for me. If stay inside, not see anything." They'll also try and get you the "local" price, rather than the falang price, which actually might not be such a good thing when she's spending 30 minutes haggling over 20 baht :)
Know the range of prices, but I never worried about getting the lowest price. If she came in with a fair first offer, I didn't try to beat her down to the last baht. The only thing I was mostly strict about was that she understood she'd be paid in the morning (though a few times, she was SO compelling, I never bothered).
And regardless of performance, I always paid the agreed amount, unless [b]she[/b] changed the contract, the greatest risk being LT becomes ST after a pay first demand. Even if she was a starfish, I paid the agreed amount; just never pulled her again. "Pay After" [b]ONLY[/b] works when [b]both[/b] sides live up to the bargain.
For me, the bottom line has ALWAYS been: [b]a good price is what [u]HER[/u] experience is worth to [u]YOU[/u] [u]THAT[/u] night.[/b]
[QUOTE=Samuking]I'm going to be so paranoid about leaving my stuff out like my ipod, digital camera, laptop before they show up.[/quote]Sufficient to be cautious and prudent, not paranoid. I just wouldn't leave temptation laying around. Think of it as an unknown house guest that you're putting up for the night. But in years as a punter, I've never had anything walk off (well, material objects anyway, though I have seen several wg's walk when I didn't follow my own advice about menu, price :) ).
All in all, I've been pleasantly surprised about the honesty I've seen, though, like I said, I don't leave temptation laying around.
And pulling from a bar, rather than a street or bier garten, does have its advantages - you know where she works. I always viewed the bar fine as a kind of insurance. Not saying you'd get anything back, but still, it'd be bad for business if the bar employed reported thieves.
Likewise, I once suggested a disappointed friend complain to the bar when his pull turned a promised LT into ST, if for no other reason than to alert the bar that it might have a problem employee. He did, and actually got his bar fine back. No guarantees; still, it never hurts to report a problem employee to management.
[QUOTE=Samuking]... and I hope to report back here.[/QUOTE]I hope you do. Best of luck, and enjoy. We all started somewhere, sometime, with help from others. You'll make mistakes, for sure, but those mistakes do make for some great "war" stories.
Just remember the difference between a war story and a fairy tale:[list][*]A fairy tale starts out, "Once upon a time..."
[*]A war story starts out, "Shit, I was there..."[/list]
[QUOTE=11Bravo]FMTT. If you've never flown Thai Airways, let alone business class, then DO SO NOW. There's a reason Thai airways, and for that matter, a number of asian airlines, show up in the "best of" lists, while American carriers don't.
If nothing else, you'll have a pleasant time fantasizing about the YOUNG stews on Thai airways (I'm guessing they have an age limit when they have to STOP flying), whereas I've NEVER done that on an American long haul ride, given the [u]matrons[/u] who have the [u]seniority[/u] to grab the long haul routes.[/QUOTE]
I flew once from USA to Australia on United biz class and "it is just about", compared to european and asian airlines. Also flew UA from Asia to USA and,again, nothing appealing on service
I flew a couple of times biz class on similar routes with Air NewZealand and it is much better than american airlines
But flying asian airlines (I do use a lot Thai from Europe to Asia) is another world: pampered, always a smile, they are there to please and serve (jsut as asian girls do, lol). Singapore, Thai, even Asiana, are great and so is Malaysian. Irt certainly has a lot to do with the customer service oriented mentality of asian people.
So I would not even waste the time to think about choosing between UA and Thai at the palce of the fellow guy here. Just get the asian experience.
I agree with you, it is alos nice to fantasize about the stewardesses.
Their charme is already a big reward for having chosen their airline.
PS: I do fly always biz on the long haul and that is indeed a premium, but I am sure their attitude is not lowered in economy. It is just the level of commodities and space that you do not get in coach. But the girls haev all the same (nice) attitude
[QUOTE=Bionicman]I do fly always biz on the long haul and that is indeed a premium, but I am sure their attitude is not lowered in economy. It is just the level of commodities and space that you do not get in coach. But the girls haev all the same (nice) attitude[/QUOTE]Can vouch for the fact that the service and attitude is still great in economy.
American long haul: the cabin crew go off somewhere, do their own thing, couldn't be bothered even if you were having a heart attack.
Asian long haul: they might be off doing their own thing, but one or two regularly come cruising down the aisle just to check if someone needs something.
Bottom line: just think of the attitude difference between Asian women and American women...
[QUOTE=Bionicman]I flew once from USA to Australia on United biz class and "it is just about", compared to european and asian airlines. Also flew UA from Asia to USA and,again, nothing appealing on service
I flew a couple of times biz class on similar routes with Air NewZealand and it is much better than american airlines
But flying asian airlines (I do use a lot Thai from Europe to Asia) is another world: pampered, always a smile, they are there to please and serve (jsut as asian girls do, lol). Singapore, Thai, even Asiana, are great and so is Malaysian. Irt certainly has a lot to do with the customer service oriented mentality of asian people.
So I would not even waste the time to think about choosing between UA and Thai at the palce of the fellow guy here. Just get the asian experience.
I agree with you, it is alos nice to fantasize about the stewardesses.
Their charme is already a big reward for having chosen their airline.
PS: I do fly always biz on the long haul and that is indeed a premium, but I am sure their attitude is not lowered in economy. It is just the level of commodities and space that you do not get in coach. But the girls haev all the same (nice) attitude[/QUOTE]
I agree 100%. There is no chance for an US carrier to compete with the Asians.
Singapore, Thai and also ANA or Asiana are decades away from UA.
If you prefer Business Class, you should try to find a SQ flight on their 777. This is better than many American First Class services. For instance Zurich-Singapore, Frankfurt-SIN and also SFO-SIN.
Go ahead and book !
FV
I fly accross the Pacific once or twice a month. I fly both China air, or EVA air, in business class.
i would not fly a US carrier for all the tea in China. There is just no comparison.
I flew UA in "C" class from LAX to CDG a few years ago, and was extremely disappointed.
As posted below, think of asking your overweight, fuck you attitude western GF to go get you a beer, versus asking your sweet, attentive, 50 kg spinner Asian GF to go get you a beer. Which one would you rather bring you a cold one ?
No brainer.
[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor]I agree 100%. There is no chance for an US carrier to compete with the Asians.
Singapore, Thai and also ANA or Asiana are decades away from UA.
If you prefer Business Class, you should try to find a SQ flight on their 777. This is better than many American First Class services. For instance Zurich-Singapore, Frankfurt-SIN and also SFO-SIN.
Go ahead and book !
FV[/QUOTE]have flown SQ a few times in biz, but the rate price/quality between Thai and Singapore is not the same. Let's say that for a bit of lower service (next to nothing difference, I think it is more psychological than else), Thai gives a much better "special business" rate. Flying Thai to Aisa also gives me the opportunity to have a holiday break in Thai with nearly no traveling cost.
[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor]I agree 100%. There is no chance for an US carrier to compete with the Asians.[/QUOTE]Yes, yes. But I'm curious: have any of you commenting here actually DONE the two flights the OP is asking about? And have you done them in the past year or so?
I have, and LAX-NRT-BKK upstairs on UA biz is just fine. No, the cabin crew weren't babes (to say the least) and the service wasn't as attentive, but it felt like a considerably tighter and more professional operation than TG's LAX-BKK.
But as I said, if you don't need to stop in Tokyo, the TG nonstop is the obvious choice.
[QUOTE=1Ball]I fly accross the Pacific once or twice a month. I fly both China air, or EVA air, in business class.
i would not fly a US carrier for all the tea in China. There is just no comparison.
I flew UA in "C" class from LAX to CDG a few years ago, and was extremely disappointed.
As posted below, think of asking your overweight, fuck you attitude western GF to go get you a beer, versus asking your sweet, attentive, 50 kg spinner Asian GF to go get you a beer. Which one would you rather bring you a cold one ?
No brainer.[/QUOTE]
You neglected another fact: The beer IN COACH on the Asian airlines, at least Cathay Pacific, is FREE. And the sexy babe pours it for you with a smile. "Want anything else, sir." Ah, yea, sit on my lap honey. :)
The U.S. market nickel and dimes you, while cutting the service. Want headphones for the movie, pay $1. Want a pillow for the 18-hour flight, pay $1. Want to watch the flight attendant's rear, pay $1. I sat in COACH, and they simply put some snacks and wine in the gallery and you helped yourself.
Night and day!!!
[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor]I agree 100%. There is no chance for an US carrier to compete with the Asians.
Singapore, Thai and also ANA or Asiana are decades away from UA.
If you prefer Business Class, you should try to find a SQ flight on their 777. This is better than many American First Class services. For instance Zurich-Singapore, Frankfurt-SIN and also SFO-SIN.
Go ahead and book !
FV[/QUOTE]Singapore Airlines is expensive for what you get. Thai is far better value for money, but still with good food and drink and decent service.
[QUOTE=11Bravo]If nothing else, you'll have a pleasant time fantasizing about the YOUNG stews on Thai airways (I'm guessing they have an age limit when they have to STOP flying), whereas I've NEVER done that on an American long haul ride, given the [u]matrons[/u] who have the [u]seniority[/u] to grab the long haul routes.[/QUOTE]
I guess you don't fly THAI all that often. Plenty of older flight attendants, male and female. I'd say in their 40s or so.
I prefer take out at Tulip massage rather than staying there. Can anyone recommend some short time hotels near Tulip massage (Thong Lo BTS)? Thanks.
The most beautiful trolley dollies have to be on Air Asia's payroll. Love flying that airline. Apart from their dirt cheap fares around the region and general reliability, you get to ogle at some prime asian ass as they flounce up and down the aisles.
And that cute red uniform! I would love to obtain one for my Filipina GF, dress her up in it sans knickers, then boss her around a while before bending her over a chair and ....:eek: ...excuse me while I go find the kleenex.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]And that cute red uniform! I would love to obtain one for my Filipina GF[/QUOTE]Well they do sell Air Asia caps onboard. You could get her one of those, then put on that Randy Newman song "You can leave your hat on".
Personally I like the Tiger girls, with that tiger-striped scarf around their waist.
[QUOTE=Betong]Well they do sell Air Asia caps onboard. You could get her one of those, then put on that Randy Newman song "You can leave your hat on".
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Good idea, but I think that I would go for the Joe Cocker version.
[QUOTE=Pita123]I guess you don't fly THAI all that often. Plenty of older flight attendants, male and female. I'd say in their 40s or so.[/QUOTE]
:) I can care the less for the age of the male flight attendants
I am just off two long haul legs with Thai and the (female) crew was young, attentive and smiling
Of course there is a light percentage of more experienced staff on board, maybe 2-3, but within asian (and thai) standards we all know, a 50 yrs asian FA is by faaaaar better than western ones, apart very few exceptions
Not to mention that ALL, regardless of the age, have superiour touch and attitude.In the last 12 months I have been flying TG 19 times on long and medium haul and I think I have a good degree of experience.
The "matron" definition is - with no offence - perfect for most of american and...British Airways flight attendants, not helped by the uniforms too.
The ever best looking FA I found was once on Avianca, Lima-Bogotà: high heel boots, miniskirt (half thigh, trust me), tight turtle neck jumper (needless to say she was a good C in tits department)
WSHe was greeting passenger boarding and I thought she was ground staff from the handling agent. No way. She closed the door and stay on board as chief FA for the flight. I could not believe how she was definetely sexy and appealing and could not see that clothing as part of the uniform! But all true.
[QUOTE=Showdown]I prefer take out at Tulip massage rather than staying there. Can anyone recommend some short time hotels near Tulip massage (Thong Lo BTS)? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Probably better posted in either the Tulip thread or the hotel thread.
But given the girls there are 'experienced', I'd simply ask one of them. They will [b]certainly[/b] know.
Anybody knows how far it is between Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang Airports?? How much would it cost to take a taxi between and how long time Would it take in the morning rush hours??
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Anybody knows how far it is between Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang Airports?? How much would it cost to take a taxi between and how long time Would it take in the morning rush hours??[/QUOTE]Its about 45 KM between the two airports and can be done within 45 minutes when you stay on the highway ( tollway )
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Anybody knows how far it is between Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang Airports?? How much would it cost to take a taxi between and how long time Would it take in the morning rush hours??[/QUOTE]
I've done it twice in the last year. I think it was about 300 Baht. Can't comment on the time since both times it was after a near midnight arrival at Suvarnbhumi.
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Anybody knows how far it is between Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang Airports?? How much would it cost to take a taxi between and how long time Would it take in the morning rush hours??[/QUOTE]With Tollway fee's (25 + 45 + 35) its around 400 to 450 baht.
Takes about 45 minutes.
However, Friday late afternoon is a nightmare and it can take 1.5 hours to 2 hours.
[QUOTE=The Pro]With Tollway fee's (25 + 45 + 35) its around 400 to 450 baht.
Takes about 45 minutes.
However, Friday late afternoon is a nightmare and it can take 1.5 hours to 2 hours.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Arno Inaka]Its about 45 KM between the two airports and can be done within 45 minutes when you stay on the highway ( tollway )[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paul2020]I've done it twice in the last year. I think it was about 300 Baht. Can't comment on the time since both times it was after a near midnight arrival at Suvarnbhumi.[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys
[QUOTE=Betong]Well they do sell Air Asia caps onboard. You could get her one of those, then put on that Randy Newman song "You can leave your hat on".
Personally I like the Tiger girls, with that tiger-striped scarf around their waist.[/QUOTE]I misunderstood when I first read this, but my favourite 'Tiger girls' are the ones selling beer from the Tiger franchises, most notably in Suan Lum night bazaar. You will have noticed them wearing those incredible tight-fitting blue and tiger dresses (along with the 'Heineken girls' in their similar green dresses). My gf always takes me to Suan Lum at least once a visit so that I can get my fix of the Tiger girls!
[QUOTE=Mouse1]I misunderstood when I first read this, but my favourite 'Tiger girls' are the ones selling beer from the Tiger franchises[/QUOTE]I must have a tiger fixation, because I love them too. Out of curiosity I once asked one about her outfit and she claimed it hadn't been tailored for her -- she just fit into it and the job was hers. A most enlightened hiring policy.
[QUOTE=Betong]I must have a tiger fixation, because I love them too. Out of curiosity I once asked one about her outfit and she claimed it hadn't been tailored for her -- she just fit into it and the job was hers. A most enlightened hiring policy.[/QUOTE]Wonderful!
Is there anyone knows in airport's pharmacy, do they sell kamagra and what the price will B. I have to stay at airport for few hours before heading to Yangon.
Thanks lot.
Question for the Professors:
I understand the below equations (^ = to completion):
(HJ^) = 500 baht
(BJ^) = 1000 baht
(FS^) = 1500 baht
I've also found:
(BJ^) plus (FS^) = 1500 baht
I know the above are valid in Mango space, Tulip space, and think generally in any MP space.
For ease, let's leave the tipping variable out of it.
But I can't seem to complete the below equations, those involved in lesser functions:
(HJ^) plus (HJ^) = I can set the bounds [500, 1000], but not the exact value. Does (HJ^) = 2*(HJ^) ?
(HJ^) plus (BJ^) = I'd guess 1000, given
(BJ^) = 1000, so is the HJ^ function totally overshowed by the BJ^ function?
(BJ^) plus (BJ^) = Here, I'd say the bounds are between [1000, 1500], but what is the value? 1500 seems a bit high, but 1000 low.
This student has been out of school a long time, and have recently come (pun intended) across some of the lesser combinations and not known quite certain where the [i]satisfaction[/i] point lies.
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Anybody knows how far it is between Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang Airports?? How much would it cost to take a taxi between and how long time Would it take in the morning rush hours??[/QUOTE]
I thought that there was some kind of bus shuttle connecting the two airports
In that case it'd be cheaper and if the service is frequent a safe bet, being door to door!
[QUOTE=11Bravo]Question for the Professors:[/QUOTE]
Not valid.
Everything is negotiable.
End value (satisfaction/price) is dependant on what YOU bring to the table and your negotiating skills in relation to the goods on offer and the skills of the other party.
Is the Suvanablahblah Airport tranportation thread up to date?
Is the planned mass transit shuttle into town (Makasan?) operating yet?
[QUOTE=Naughty]Is the Suvanablahblah Airport tranportation thread up to date?
Is the planned mass transit shuttle into town (Makasan?) operating yet?[/QUOTE]
It was supposed to be opened on Kings bd in december last year, at least i heard so....
But when i checked it up a while ago it is still not opened and will not be for quite a time... dont remember how long though...
Some time back, some one was asking about downloading porn.
I stumbled across the alt.binaries.multimedia.erotica.asian newsgroup where there is a wealth of downloadable porn.
Just recently some one posted a site rip of "Thai Cuties" website.
The flicks are in mp4 format and some look very amateurish and others look slickly professional.
The poster stated:
"I obtained this from BT, named and posting as found.
The files are all MP4, different resolutions and quality.
Some are softcore, some hardcore solo (masturbation), some
hardcore sex with partners.
There are about 45 GB in total."
Slim
[QUOTE=Nvslim]I stumbled across the alt.binaries.multimedia.erotica.asian newsgroup [/QUOTE]LOL... alt.sex newsgroups... That takes me back. I remember the day when THAT was the way, and the only way, to get such info as is now found here. Believe me, much easier here...
[QUOTE=Benjamin Be]Is there anyone knows in airport's pharmacy, do they sell kamagra and what the price will B. I have to stay at airport for few hours before heading to Yangon.
Thanks lot.[/QUOTE]I very much doubt it (and personally I wouldn't even bother to ask). Not sure the exact legal status of selling generic drugs in Thailand, but it is unlikely to happen at 'official' sites such as the airport, and pharmacies such as Boots certainly will not stock them.
But if you are there for a few hours you probably have time to pop down to Sukhumvit and go to a pharmacy there, which will sell it. You might even have time for other things...
[QUOTE=Mouse1]But if you are there for a few hours you probably have time to pop down to Sukhumvit and go to a pharmacy there, which will sell it. You might even have time for other things...[/QUOTE]
Yes it will cost you extra in cab fares, but a Sukhumvit pharmacy is likely the best place for getting what you need from someone who will understand basic English and not require a prescription. Am not recalling what it cost me, but there was no hassle at all getting it.
[QUOTE=Benjamin Be]Is there anyone knows in airport's pharmacy, do they sell kamagra and what the price will B. I have to stay at airport for few hours before heading to Yangon.Thanks lot.[/QUOTE]
There are tons of pharmacies close to the airport who would be glad to sell you some Kamagra. You don't need to go all the way into town for it. Ask a taxi driver.
I think it might be sketchy taking K into Burma though. I love Burma. It is maybe the last frontier in Asia, and the people are the kindest and friendliest I've found for the most part.
If you get in trouble with the law there, though, for whatever reason, you are REAlLY in trouble. Be very careful.
[QUOTE=Naughty]If you get in trouble with the law there, though, for whatever reason, you are REAlLY in trouble. Be very careful.[/QUOTE]Yea, just ask the Moustache Brothers.
I was there last month, and got waved through customs, no search, no problems.
But yes, that's one place I would not want to be on the wrong side of the law, even if was a "misunderstanding".
[QUOTE=Naughty]Is the Suvanablahblah Airport tranportation thread up to date?
Is the planned mass transit shuttle into town (Makasan?) operating yet?[/QUOTE]Was in BKK a few weeks ago and asked the cabbie ony way to the airport. He told me would open on the Queen's birthday but I have no idea when that is.
AF
[QUOTE=Asian Flava]Was in BKK a few weeks ago and asked the cabbie ony way to the airport. He told me would open on the Queen's birthday but I have no idea when that is.
AF[/QUOTE]
Queen Sirikit's birthday is on 12th of August
Enjoy
Lemon Tree
Hi Friends,
is anybody of you in BKK right now and can report about the local situation?
Is it still safe enough or should I postpone a planned visit for next week?
The traffic situation seems to become horrible if one may trust the newspapers.
Thanks for response.
FV
Everything is fine, no problem.
Red shirts are the nice people, do not worry. Be careful of Pink shirts (Yellow now wearing Pink and being violent again).
Bangkok Post and The Nation are totally under control of the Democrats / Yellows / Pinks and so do not beleive anything you read in them, their bias is disgusting.
[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor]Hi Friends,
is anybody of you in BKK right now and can report about the local situation?
Is it still safe enough or should I postpone a planned visit for next week?
The traffic situation seems to become horrible if one may trust the newspapers.
Thanks for response.
FV[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Naughty]There are tons of pharmacies close to the airport who would be glad to sell you some Kamagra. You don't need to go all the way into town for it. Ask a taxi driver.
I think it might be sketchy taking K into Burma though. I love Burma. It is maybe the last frontier in Asia, and the people are the kindest and friendliest I've found for the most part.
If you get in trouble with the law there, though, for whatever reason, you are REAlLY in trouble. Be very careful.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your info. Kamagra I m going to buy is only for personal usage so only one or two packs and am not going to resell them in Burma.
By the way I've heard there are some cheap k directly from India selling in Yangon as well, do you happen to know that?
[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor]is anybody of you in BKK right now and can report about the local situation?[/QUOTE]Heard on the news that demonstrations closed 2 shopping centers, but they were NOT Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy, so I didn't care.
Sukhumvit was clear, skytrain always functional. Now, if they really wanted to throw a cog in BKK, just get a bunch of reds to fill the skytrain and NOT get off, just ride and ride and ride. That would be a problem...
But until then... I don't have any trouble getting around. Traffic can be a problem, but I wouldn't necessarily blame it on the reds. I got caught in a jam caused by too much cross traffic - too many vehicles entering from side soi's keeping the main road from flowing freely. But it wasn't like the OLD days - the skytrain, or the metro, gets you cross town, then take a taxi. Or if really pressed for time, a motorbike taxi.
I do keep eyes open, and obviously avoid any demonstrations, but that's mainly because I don't like crowds.
I would not postpone a trip. This is Thailand - things just work out.
Some time ago I read a post about someone getting custom shoes made. If it was you, can you post the name/location of the place and what you think of them?
Thanks.
Hi,
I have big trouble with a BG I met and with who I spend some time during my last trips since 1 year.
She says last September she is pregnant and the baby is from me. I know it is not possible but she makes me big trouble calling me, on my phone, calling me in my office (she get this number because I called her a few times with it (cheap charlie!)
I staid long times with her and planned to take her in may country (france) so I maid papers for her to get a visa so she knows a lot of things about me (personnal adress, office adress, name of my company, number of my passeport (and a copy of it.!)
I have taking care of her and help her a lot (buying coolbox, tv,.) I think I gave her almost 600 000 baths in less than one year.
When she told me she is pregnant I gave her money to stop it even if I knew the baby is not mine.!
I don't know if she really stop pregnant.
Last February she became crazy, calling me and sending me sms about 30 tilmes every days during 2 weeks, she threaten me to send papers to my company and to my wife (. Yes, I am married) to explain she is pregnant and that I use money of my company to pay flight ticket to BKK, to pay phone to call her,. (that is not true but. We never know what reaction my company can have)
She use some foreign friends of her from europe (ex customers? Real friends?) to call me and send me emails to explain me that I have to take care of her, sending money or I will have big problem with thai police and with thai association for take care of thai people because she ask them to track me.
I cut of course every contact, change mobile phone, ask people of my office not to answer to phone calls from Thailand, check every day mail box at office and home, never answer email. I was really scared!
Now and for about 2 months, I don't have any news and everything seems quite but I still afraid.
Maybe she keep the baby, I don't't know. If Yes, I think she is close to have it.
This is why I need some help from you to answer some questions:
- do you think she went to the police to say she is pregnant from a farang and gave copy of may passport?
- do you think next time I go to Thailand I can have trouble with the police or with immigration? Is it possible they have my passport number because a girl gave her?
Yesterday, my boss tell me I have to go to Thailand in 2 weeks for my job. I am scared about that!
I didn't change my passport yet and I don't have time to do it.
Please tell me if you think I risk something.
Thanks for opinion and help
Fred
Here is a real eye-opener concerning the ugly truth about tailors in Thailand:
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/35583/stitched-up-and-ripped-off-on-holiday[/url]
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/35584/tailor-made-avoiding-the-rip-offs[/url]
Of the hundreds of shops in Bangkok and Pattaya, only a very few are on the level. The rest will sell you garbage and/or cheat you in multiple and nefarious ways described in detail.
I always smile, nod, and walk right by the tailor touts.
[QUOTE=Fredlena]
I have big trouble with a BG I met and with who I spend some time during my last trips since 1 year.
She says last September she is pregnant and the baby is from me. I know it is not possible but she makes me big trouble calling me, on my phone, calling me in my office (she get this number because I called her a few times with it (cheap charlie!)
- do you think she went to the police to say she is pregnant from a farang and gave copy of may passport?
- do you think next time I go to Thailand I can have trouble with the police or with immigration? Is it possible they have my passport number because a girl gave her?
Yesterday, my boss tell me I have to go to Thailand in 2 weeks for my job. I am scared about that![/QUOTE]Stay cool. First, did you ever see pictures of her or her on the webcam being pregnant? And not just with clothes on, but of her pregnant belly with no shirt? A friend of mine in Peru played a joke on me once. Her friends put something in her shirt and took a bunch of pictures of her doing things around the house. It looked very much like she was pregnant, but after she saw my cool reaction she told me it was just a joke.
Regardless, you are okay. A copy of a passport doesn't prove paternity. And if it did, what could they do besides nothing? How many Thai kids whose father left their mother when they got pregnant are running around? In the far off chance that you do get into trouble you can always say it was identity theft and she must have stolen all of your information.
And do yourself a favor. Don't get so attached to a BG again.
[QUOTE=Fredlena]
I have big trouble with a BG I met and with who I spend some time during my last trips since 1 year.
She says last September she is pregnant and the baby is from me. I know it is not possible but she makes me big trouble calling me...[/QUOTE]
If you know it is not possible, why do you bother?
Anyway, I agree with what Mr Enternational already wrote. You won't have any trouble with the Immigration.
But, if you are real and not a troll, you have to stop acting like a fool, mate!
If she can pretend that you made her pregnant, that means that you've fucked her at least once without a condom which is not advisable (or maybe the condom broke, but you should remember it, then, no?), especially if you don't know her HIV status and whether or not she has taken a contraceptive pill (or if she uses another contraceptive method).
You said that you already sent her almost 600 000 baht during the past year! For what purpose? It's a lot of money in Thailand! Some people might disagree, but I and several senior members can tell you that sponsoring a Thai girl is not a good idea (sorry, but actually, I think it's just plain stupid). Once you can live with her on a daily basis, it's another story, but if you are not really staying together, don't send any money (or at least, not such big amounts)!
You should not believe her threats, especially if what she claims is groundless. If she phones you, just don't say anything. Let her speak alone and answer nothing. She will stop sooner or later (international phone calls are not free!). But when you are back in the Land of Smiles, don't go anymore somewhere near her area, don't try to contact her or someone she knows, avoid her and her friends and family like the plague!
If you need some advices in French, just send me a PM.
[QUOTE=Daddy07][url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/35583/stitched-up-and-ripped-off-on-holiday[/url]
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/35584/tailor-made-avoiding-the-rip-offs[/url]
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The first of these links led me to one of those "you have signs of a virus" scams that won't let you out without closing the link with task manager or shutting down your internet connection and installs malware if you let it run.
The scam opened when I clicked on a link on the page.
It's probably OK to read these links, but I advise that you don't follow any of the onward links on these pages.
If you do, use task master to close out and then run a full security scan.
[QUOTE=Fredlena]I have taking care of her and help her a lot (buying coolbox, tv,.) I think I gave her almost 600 000 baths in less than one year.
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Well, looking at what you just wrote, I take it you must be the biggest idiot that has travelled in Thailand in the last year? I think she recognizes it too and this is why she does all what she has been doing.
i's all stories, forget it, she's just a prostitute who tries every trick in the book to get money from her top sucker.
Shit, and if you did fuck her bareback, then you got what you deserved!! (being married and all)
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Stay cool. First, did you ever see pictures of her or her on the webcam being pregnant? And not just with clothes on, but of her pregnant belly with no shirt? A friend of mine in Peru played a joke on me once. Her friends put something in her shirt and took a bunch of pictures of her doing things around the house. It looked very much like she was pregnant, but after she saw my cool reaction she told me it was just a joke.
Regardless, you are okay. A copy of a passport doesn't prove paternity. And if it did, what could they do besides nothing? How many Thai kids whose father left their mother when they got pregnant are running around? In the far off chance that you do get into trouble you can always say it was identity theft and she must have stolen all of your information.
And do yourself a favor. Don't get so attached to a BG again.[/QUOTE]thanks for your answer.
Yes I saw her really pregnant, and she send me the proof by email (document from hospital, echography with her name.
Yes, you are right, lots of children in the Thailand and in the world don't know their father!
True! I can say she stole me all my information if I get into trouble. But I really don't want to get troubles and be stop at immigration. That's my problem.
Fred
[QUOTE=Fredlena]... But I really don't want to get troubles and be stop at immigration. That's my problem.[/QUOTE]
Then, you don't have any problem with the local authorities, and you should not worry about Thai Immigration, as already explained earlier.
[QUOTE=Fredlena]thanks for your answer.Yes I saw her really pregnant, and she send me the proof by email (document from hospital, echography with her name.Yes, you are right, lots of children in the Thailand and in the world don't know their father!True! I can say she stole me all my information if I get into trouble. But I really don't want to get troubles and be stop at immigration. That's my problem.Fred[/QUOTE]
You got nothing to worry about!* Come to Thailand for your business and continue to do other Thai ladies with a condom of course for so many others reasons than getting someone pregnant. The Civil law is useless in my opinion because they can force a order on you but who the hell is going to enforce it? How many Thai men are paying child support in Thailand? Although she has proof that she is pregnant, a 500 baht note to any Doctor in any clinic can get you a simple piece of paper saying she is... Like already mentioned where is the proof that the baby is your's. Does she have your DNA, has the baby been born and look like a Farang and like you?*
Not saying it couldn't be your's but until it is definite with her attitude now before it is even born has got to be the biggest red flag in the world to tell you get the hell out of the kitchen. The worse is yet to come! you certainly don't want this women to be your wife 24/7.
If it is your's put your foot down and tell her I will pay this much only and only for the child. Unless you plan on raising the child in your country or leaving everything and living in Thailand. Don't let her use the child against your guilt!
LBM
[QUOTE=Fredlena]Hi,
I have big trouble with a BG I met and with who I spend some time during my last trips since 1 year.
She says last September she is pregnant and the baby is from me. I know it is not possible but she makes me big trouble calling me, on my phone, calling me in my office (she get this number because I called her a few times with it (cheap charlie!)
I staid long times with her and planned to take her in may country (france) so I maid papers for her to get a visa so she knows a lot of things about me (personnal adress, office adress, name of my company, number of my passeport (and a copy of it.!)
I have taking care of her and help her a lot (buying coolbox, tv,.) I think I gave her almost 600 000 baths in less than one year.
When she told me she is pregnant I gave her money to stop it even if I knew the baby is not mine.!
I don't know if she really stop pregnant.
Last February she became crazy, calling me and sending me sms about 30 tilmes every days during 2 weeks, she threaten me to send papers to my company and to my wife (. Yes, I am married) to explain she is pregnant and that I use money of my company to pay flight ticket to BKK, to pay phone to call her,. (that is not true but. We never know what reaction my company can have)
She use some foreign friends of her from europe (ex customers? Real friends?) to call me and send me emails to explain me that I have to take care of her, sending money or I will have big problem with thai police and with thai association for take care of thai people because she ask them to track me.
I cut of course every contact, change mobile phone, ask people of my office not to answer to phone calls from Thailand, check every day mail box at office and home, never answer email. I was really scared!
Now and for about 2 months, I don't have any news and everything seems quite but I still afraid.
Maybe she keep the baby, I don't't know. If Yes, I think she is close to have it.
This is why I need some help from you to answer some questions:
- do you think she went to the police to say she is pregnant from a farang and gave copy of may passport?
- do you think next time I go to Thailand I can have trouble with the police or with immigration? Is it possible they have my passport number because a girl gave her?
Yesterday, my boss tell me I have to go to Thailand in 2 weeks for my job. I am scared about that!
I didn't change my passport yet and I don't have time to do it.
Please tell me if you think I risk something.
Thanks for opinion and help
Fred[/QUOTE]Immigration will not be a problem in Thailand, but if you are from a European country and when she goes ask for help at your ambassy, you could be forced to pay childsupport in your own country to her.
In Europe they can even force you to go to a hospital and check your DNA with that from the baby.
However when you take a Thai lawyer and do it in Thailand you will pay muck less childsupport.
[QUOTE=Goyave]
You said that you already sent her almost 600,000 baht during the past year! For what purpose? It's a lot of money in Thailand![/QUOTE]
Yes that's about 18 years of child support in Thailand :) I hope Fred has kept all the Western Union slips.
Fred - You might want to send a "rallonge" in about 14-16 years for the kid's schooling.
[QUOTE=Fredlena]Hi,
I have taking care of her and help her a lot (buying coolbox, tv,.) I think I gave her almost 600 000 baths in less than one year.[/QUOTE]
You gotta love this list with a cool box coming first... :) Bought one yesterday for 99 bahts at Makro.
Fred,
When a women gets pregnant, especially early in the pregnancy, a doctor with ultrasound can determine the due date and also the day of conception within 2 or 3 days.
If you were in better terms with your girl friend you could ask her to send you an ultrasound picture. The pictures usually will have DD and GA with dates printed in the margins. You could say to girl friend to send me a couple pictures to prove when the baby is due. Working back 40 weeks is the day of conception. If you were not in Thailand +/- 4 days from that date then you probably are not the father.
Unless you are married to the her you will probably never have to pay child support even if you are the father. The issue is that women don't have the right to request a DNA sample or paternity test just because they think you might be the father. I don't know if she's allowed to put you on the Birth Certificate even if she's never been married to you. If that was the case every girl in Thailand would put Brad Pitt as the father to show that there baby has the right to emigrate to the EU or USA.
Just think of it. You hotel copies your passport info when you check in. They sell it people who sell it to single Thai Pregnant women and then you end up as the father without you having idea. When the baby reaches a certain age. She drops by the embassy and shows that the child father is citizens of France, England, etc and would to inquire about child support. How chaotic would that be. Imagine being contacted 10 years after you last visited Thailand about some women claiming that you are the father just because your passport info was sold and you end up being on the birth certificate.
[QUOTE=Fredlena]Hi,
She says last September she is pregnant and the baby is from me. I know it is not possible but she makes me big trouble calling me, on my phone, calling me in my office (she get this number because I called her a few times with it (cheap charlie!)
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr_Hoffy]
Just think of it. You hotel copies your passport info when you check in. They sell it people who sell it to single Thai Pregnant women and then you end up as the father without you having idea. When the baby reaches a certain age. She drops by the embassy and shows that the child father is citizens of France, England, etc and would to inquire about child support. How chaotic would that be. Imagine being contacted 10 years after you last visited Thailand about some women claiming that you are the father just because your passport info was sold and you end up being on the birth certificate.[/QUOTE]
The really disturbing thing about what you just wrote is that I can actually see this happening in LOS... TIT
See attached card & map.
The location is a little off the beaten track from Suk but it’s easy enough from the Skytrain to the Taksin stop. From there its immediately in front of Assumption college between the back side of the Mandarin Oriental and the Shangri-La hotels and the State Tower (Lebua) is directly behind.
[url]http://www.v-doit.com/shop/p/phoenixshop/img-lib/map_2007072405313.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.v-doit.com/
I have a pair of Timberland loafers that are really threadbare (but I wear them anyway) and they replicated them perfectly except better! They charged me 2800 Bhat which is about what I paid for them new 20 years ago and they are fabulous!
There are usually some local freelancers under the Skytrain between the main road and the river (usually amatures coming home from a job) so take a look if you have time. If you walk to the river you can take a river taxi for 20bhat up river to Chinatown and beyond. A good afternoon diversion...
RJSSS212
[QUOTE=Ivanba]Some time ago I read a post about someone getting custom shoes made. If it was you, can you post the name/location of the place and what you think of them?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mart Cham]You gotta love this list with a cool box coming first... :) Bought one yesterday for 99 bahts at Makro.[/QUOTE]
I believe cool box means a refrigerator....not a lunch pail.
[QUOTE=David 2]I believe cool box means a refrigerator....not a lunch pail.[/QUOTE]
Silly me, I didn't even think about it ;)
A cool box isn't a lunch pail either by the way. See "Cooler" vs. "Lunch Box" on wikipedia. A lunch pail goes for 49 bahts at Makro :)
Where on earth did someone tell you "cool box" when they meant "fridge" Fred?
[QUOTE=Mart Cham]Silly me, I didn't even think about it.
A cool box isn't a lunch pail either by the way. See "Cooler" vs. "Lunch Box" on wikipedia. A lunch pail goes for 49 bahts at Makro
Where on earth did someone tell you "cool box" when they meant "fridge" Fred?[/QUOTE]So sorry, I meant "fridge"
English is not my native language and didn't check the dictionary.
Fred
[QUOTE=Mr_Hoffy]Fred,
When a women gets pregnant, especially early in the pregnancy, a doctor with ultrasound can determine the due date and also the day of conception within 2 or 3 days.
If you were in better terms with your girl friend you could ask her to send you an ultrasound picture. The pictures usually will have DD and GA with dates printed in the margins. You could say to girl friend to send me a couple pictures to prove when the baby is due. Working back 40 weeks is the day of conception. If you were not in Thailand +/- 4 days from that date then you probably are not the father.
Unless you are married to the her you will probably never have to pay child support even if you are the father. The issue is that women don't have the right to request a DNA sample or paternity test just because they think you might be the father. I don't know if she's allowed to put you on the Birth Certificate even if she's never been married to you. If that was the case every girl in Thailand would put Brad Pitt as the father to show that there baby has the right to emigrate to the EU or USA.
Just think of it. You hotel copies your passport info when you check in. They sell it people who sell it to single Thai Pregnant women and then you end up as the father without you having idea. When the baby reaches a certain age. She drops by the embassy and shows that the child father is citizens of France, England, etc and would to inquire about child support. How chaotic would that B. Imagine being contacted 10 years after you last visited Thailand about some women claiming that you are the father just because your passport info was sold and you end up being on the birth certificate.[/QUOTE]Thank you Mr Hoffy, you are right for sure but being under stress I didn't have all my brain
I really thank everyone for opinions (goog ou bad. About me)
Now I am near to go to LOS, I am still stressed but I think it will be ok for me to go through the immigration.
For sure I will not go in her area and never have any contact again with her and friends!
Fred
Check out this article from an Australian Newspaper
[url]http://www.news.com.au/travel/world/how-to-spot-a-thai-ladyboy/story-e6frfqai-1225851216328[/url]
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]
I have a pair of Timberland loafers that are really threadbare (but I wear them anyway) and they replicated them perfectly except better! They charged me 2800 Bhat which is about what I paid for them new 20 years ago and they are fabulous!
RJSSS212[/QUOTE]
There was a Timberland shop going out of business a few weeks ago in Pattaya and they had their final days sale. During their last week I bought a pair of shoes for 1500 Baht (original price being at about 6000).
Their last three days were selling every item at 500 baht/piece. I bought another three pairs for 1500 baht total. Now I need to buy another new bag to take them back home. LOL
[QUOTE=El Greco]. I bought another three pairs for 1500 baht total. Now I need to buy another new bag to take them back home. LOL[/QUOTE]
I have the same problem. I leave room in the bag on the outbound but buy more shit than I have room! But as problems go, certainly not the worst...
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[QUOTE=Arno Inaka]Immigration will not be a problem in Thailand, but if you are from a European country and when she goes ask for help at your ambassy, you could be forced to pay childsupport in your own country to her.
In Europe they can even force you to go to a hospital and check your DNA with that from the baby.
However when you take a Thai lawyer and do it in Thailand you will pay muck less childsupport.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but I don't believe this is even close to the truth. In fact, I'm tempted to write this in French just to reassure the original poster. The fact is that there is nothing at all this woman can do to extract any child support in France: she cannot compel a DNA test; she cannot claim citizenship for the baby; she cannot acquire a French birth certificate, and she sure as hell cannot obtain an EU passport for the child. She has absolutely no legal standing France or anywhere else in Europe.
Given that she's a bar girl, or at least an ex bar girl with an obvious history of casual sex, it's highly doubtful that she could make any trouble at Thai Immigration either, unless she's very well connected. And if she were well connected she probably would not be a bar girl.
Having said this, un homme averti en vaux deux (once bitten twice shy), and it pays to remember never, under any circumstances, to share personal information with anyone if not required by law.
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]...un homme averti en vaux deux (once bitten twice shy)[/QUOTE]
It's "Un homme averti en vau[b]t[/b] deux" in proper French (not "vau[b]x[/b]"), but apart from that, I fully agree with what you wrote in your post.
[QUOTE=Fredlena]So sorry, I meant "fridge"
English is not my native language and didn't check the dictionary.
Fred[/QUOTE]
I know Fred and your native language happens to be mine as well. Your mistake was just so unusual ('fridge' is a very common word) that I didn't even think that it might have actually been a mistake. As I said, "silly me"...
Anyway, relax, you don't need to worry a wee bit about your next trip to Thailand. Chalk it up to experience though and avoid sponsoring bargirls in the future.
So I'm planning my first trip to LOS at the end of the year and I'm leaning towards spending most of it in Pattaya. I would like to stay, at least for part of the time, at a nice beach where I can actually swim in the water. By all the reports I've read over in the Pattaya section, everyone says that the water is terribly polluted and no one swims in it. Can anyone tell me are there any nice beaches in Thailand that you'd recommend where you can touch the water without growing an extra arm or becoming sterile? Hopefully with some p4p action around of course :) I could always pick up a cutie in Pattaya and take her for a little trip to a nicer beach. Thanks in advance! I'm sure I'll have some more questions before I leave, trying to get all my intel in ahead of time.
[QUOTE=Deori]So I'm planning my first trip to LOS at the end of the year and I'm leaning towards spending most of it in Pattaya. I would like to stay, at least for part of the time, at a nice beach where I can actually swim in the water. By all the reports I've read over in the Pattaya section, everyone says that the water is terribly polluted and no one swims in it. Can anyone tell me are there any nice beaches in Thailand that you'd recommend where you can touch the water without growing an extra arm or becoming sterile? Hopefully with some p4p action around of course :) I could always pick up a cutie in Pattaya and take her for a little trip to a nicer beach. Thanks in advance! I'm sure I'll have some more questions before I leave, trying to get all my intel in ahead of time.[/QUOTE]
to Derori,
I think you can take a side trip just outside of Pattaya koh Samet about one hr south of Pattaya, take a boat from Ranyong nice beach and resort there or go to Jomtien only 30 min south of Pattaya many beach front resort there and also bar and girl avalible but nothing like Pattaya, it is good to get away from Pattaya for a few days to relax and recharge yourself.
Fast Eddie 48
There are nice beaches in Pattaya especially when you rent a boat. It is really cheap and fun. Just look at the photo.
[QUOTE=Deori]So I'm planning my first trip to LOS at the end of the year and I'm leaning towards spending most of it in Pattaya. I would like to stay, at least for part of the time, at a nice beach where I can actually swim in the water. By all the reports I've read over in the Pattaya section, everyone says that the water is terribly polluted and no one swims in it. Can anyone tell me are there any nice beaches in Thailand that you'd recommend where you can touch the water without growing an extra arm or becoming sterile? Hopefully with some p4p action around of course :) I could always pick up a cutie in Pattaya and take her for a little trip to a nicer beach. Thanks in advance! I'm sure I'll have some more questions before I leave, trying to get all my intel in ahead of time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Deori]So I'm planning my first trip to LOS at the end of the year and I'm leaning towards spending most of it in Pattaya. I would like to stay, at least for part of the time, at a nice beach where I can actually swim in the water. By all the reports I've read over in the Pattaya section, everyone says that the water is terribly polluted and no one swims in it. Can anyone tell me are there any nice beaches in Thailand that you'd recommend where you can touch the water without growing an extra arm or becoming sterile? Hopefully with some p4p action around of course :) I could always pick up a cutie in Pattaya and take her for a little trip to a nicer beach. Thanks in advance! I'm sure I'll have some more questions before I leave, trying to get all my intel in ahead of time.[/QUOTE]
You could swim at Jomtien Beach. Phuket and Ko Samui have good beaches but the p4p comes nowhere close to Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Deori]I'm planning my first trip to LOS at the end of the year and I'm leaning towards spending most of it in Pattaya. I would like to stay, at least for part of the time, at a nice beach where I can actually swim in the water. Can anyone tell me are there any nice beaches in Thailand. Hopefully with some p4p action around of course: I could always pick up a cutie in Pattaya and take her for a little trip to a nicer beach. [/QUOTE]
I recommend Ko Chang. It has some very nice beaches. It is close to Pattaya and you can drive there or take a bus (2hrs). You can bring a lady with you or take your chances in the local bars. And there are many hotels in all price ranges yet the island has a relaxed feel to it. Did I mention KC has some very nice beaches?
Swimming at Jomtien Beach is better than Pattaya Beach for sure and is good for a pleasant afternoon. If mongering is your thing, I would not recommend staying there but for some afternoon fun, check out Kinnaree Place a short time bar under new management. They have some nice girls there for 1000bt ST plus 300bt for a room.
Phuket and Ko Samui are the superstar island beach resort destinations. They both have beautiful beaches and you will definitely find girls there (no need to take a friend with you).
If you want to find a more laid back island retreat, I would recommend the smaller outlying islands such as Ko Phi Phi, Ko Pha Ngan, and Ko Tao. But these islands require more effort to get there, and it is a necessity to bring your own diversion with you.
So while I like the smaller less developed islands best, I appreciate the proximity of Ko Chang and its happy mix of comfort, amenities, naturalness and relaxed atmosphere. It is worlds apart from Pattaya. Check it out.
I'm no expert on Pattaya's beaches. However, I just returned from a great few days at the Amari Orchid Resort, which is right on the beach, and offers the alternatives of two large pools and a nice beach. It's within 10 minutes of most of the favored haunts, but it's miles away in terms of ambiance and calm.
GE
First, thank you all for the quick flood of info!
Natty Bumpo, you mentioned Phuket. What is the board's general opinion on Pattaya vs. Phuket? I had heard elsewhere that they had nicer beachers in general in Phuket, but that Pattaya maybe had the better p4p scene? Appreciate the feedback. I'm seriously planning on spending at least a month wandering around in Thailand, so I'm sure I'll find many things out myself, but I enjoy and appreciate the discourse on the board here and benefitting from others' experiences. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]I recommend Ko Chang. It has some very nice beaches. It is close to Pattaya and you can drive there or take a bus (2hrs). You can bring a lady with you or take your chances in the local bars. And there are many hotels in all price ranges yet the island has a relaxed feel to it. Did I mention KC has some very nice beaches?
Swimming at Jomtien Beach is better than Pattaya Beach for sure and is good for a pleasant afternoon. If mongering is your thing, I would not recommend staying there but for some afternoon fun, check out Kinnaree Place a short time bar under new management. They have some nice girls there for 1000bt ST plus 300bt for a room.
Phuket and Ko Samui are the superstar island beach resort destinations. They both have beautiful beaches and you will definitely find girls there (no need to take a friend with you).
If you want to find a more laid back island retreat, I would recommend the smaller outlying islands such as Ko Phi Phi, Ko Pha Ngan, and Ko Tao. But these islands require more effort to get there, and it is a necessity to bring your own diversion with you.
So while I like the smaller less developed islands best, I appreciate the proximity of Ko Chang and its happy mix of comfort, amenities, naturalness and relaxed atmosphere. It is worlds apart from Pattaya. Check it out.[/QUOTE]
Are there any male/female or lesbian sex shows in Bangkok ?
[QUOTE=Deori]First, thank you all for the quick flood of info!
Natty Bumpo, you mentioned Phuket. What is the board's general opinion on Pattaya vs. Phuket? I had heard elsewhere that they had nicer beachers in general in Phuket, but that Pattaya maybe had the better p4p scene? Appreciate the feedback. I'm seriously planning on spending at least a month wandering around in Thailand, so I'm sure I'll find many things out myself, but I enjoy and appreciate the discourse on the board here and benefiting from others' experiences. Thanks![/QUOTE]It is nicer but a lot more expensive in terms of transport and hotels (Patong). Pattaya definately has a better scene going for it so maybe you should use Phuket as a breather from P4P to do some other stuff.
Samui is good too if you want a shot at drunk backpackers or want a break from associating with hardcore mongers.
I'm pretty much in the same boat as you are. I like the scene but want to check out some other places and mix it up a little rather than hanging out in NEP or Pattaya all the time.
I am always looking for multi-day GFE's. First I'd go to Phuket & try to find someone. Why? Because it has far better beaches than Pattaya & many small "romantic" islands. If unlucky after 2-4 days I go to BKK. Find someone there and take her whereever she wants to go. All in all its a 2 week project to get that niiice stretch of days. After that it's tears and maybe see you again.
Someone tried to log in to my account many times earlier today, but my account was automatically locked by ISG twice, after the failed hacker tried to work out my password many times over a few hours (thanks for that security feature Jackson). The hack attempt IP addresses were in Spain and Germany (but that doesn't mean much, as they were probably using a proxy server from elsewhere).
Dear Failed Hacker - don't waste your time - there's nothing interesting in my account. I don't keep any confidential info in my account or my PMs, I have emptied my PM box and will change my password a little more often. Guys, probably a good idea to do the same.
Piper - the same thing happened to me and I suspect a lot of others. I got 4 messages today.
The same thing happened to me.
[QUOTE=Rambis Youth]Piper - the same thing happened to me and I suspect a lot of others. I got 4 messages today.[/QUOTE]What kind of messages?
On ISG PM?
[QUOTE=Bionicman]what kind of messages ? on ISG PM?[/QUOTE]I think that if somebody is trying to hack your ISG account, you might receive a warning message in your email account (the one that is mentioned in your profile), not in your private message box here.
Piper1,
Have you been using a public computer? I've gone to an internet place in Pattaya before and found a user name already there, when I punched in to go on ISG.
[QUOTE=NoCBJ4Me]Piper1,
Have you been using a public computer? I've gone to an internet place in Pattaya before and found a user name already there, when I punched in to go on ISG.[/QUOTE]
No public computer. Maybe it's a password-hacking Bot. There were more attempts after I posted about it earlier today, and it's happened to a few other members today.
The messages appeared on my email (not PM):
[i]Piper1,
Your account on InternationalSexGuide has been locked because someone has tried to log into the account with the wrong password more than 5 times. You will be able to attempt to log in again in another 15 minutes.
The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address: 84.88.59.3
[/i]
Piper1,
One time on a public computer, I found that a guy had forgotten to log out of ISG, so I logged him out.
Maybe the hacker is sponsoring one of the girls seen in your photo posts and is trying to get back at you banging his babe.
Thai standoff may worsen to civil war: crisis group | Top News | Reuters
[url]http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCATRE63H06E20100501[/url]
There's a lot of confusion about what Travel Alerts and Warnings mean, especially in terms of insurance coverage. The following applies to the U.S., but it's roughly the same in most other Western countries.
1) It depends on the specific Terms & Conditions of your insurance policy, but there is no blanket rule that says a Travel Alert or Travel Warning from the State Department automatically makes an insurance policy non-applicable in the country for which the alert or warning has been issued.
HOWEVER, all policies contain exclusions for acts of war (declared or undeclared), insurrection, terrorism, civil unrest, etc. This doesn't mean you're not covered while traveling in countries where such events are occurring, only that you can't claim for damages resulting from them. If you get your leg blown off because of a grenade attack on a BTS station in Bangkok, you won't be covered. If you fall down the stairs at a BTS station outside the demonstration area or get hit by a baht bus in Pattaya, you would be covered because those injuries don't result from an excluded event.
2) The State Department doesn't have an objective standard for "essential travel." It is purely subjective, to be defined by each individual traveler. If you consider it essential to get your knob polished in Thailand, then a trip to Bangkok or Pattaya would be essential travel, at least for you.
3) The State Dept has issued a Travel Alert for Thailand, which is a caution about short-term developments that can pose a threat to the security of U.S. citizens. A Travel Warning covers long-term conditions and is also an admission by the U.S. government that it may not be able to extend any aid to U.S. citizens in some countries. Keep in mind these alerts and warnings are issued with inexperienced travelers, often families, in mind, not veteran horndogs who would cross a mine field if a willing woman was on the other side.
It's very important to note that a country does not have to be on the Travel Alert or Warning list for the terrorism or unrest exclusions to take place. Injuries or damage resulting from the Al-Qaeda bombings in London or Spain wouldn't have been covered by most policies, although it could be that the insurance company would honor claims to avoid bad publicity.
The State Dept. has issued travel alerts for the following countries: Mozambique; Thailand; India; Malaysia; Ethiopia; Kyrgyz Republic. There are 31 countries with Travel Warnings: Democratic Republic of the Congo; Kyrgyz Republic; Mexico; Philippines; Algeria; Lebanon; Iran; Kenya; Haiti; Colombia; Eritrea; Central African Republic; Iraq; Saudi Arabia; Pakistan; Sudan; Somalia; Mauritania; Chad; Mali; Sri Lanka; Nepal; Guinea; Cote d'Ivoire; Israel, the West Bank and Gaza; Afghanistan; Burundi; Nigeria; Uzbekistan; and Georgia.
4) Don't accept anything on face value that you read on the Internet about insurance and travel warnings (except if it has been written by me). Check with your insurance company AND GET IT CONFIRMED IN WRITING that your policy will apply for general travel in Thailand.
Evil
BANGKOK, May 3 (Reuters) - Many countries have issued travel advisories for the Thai capital since Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva declared a state of emergency in April to quell unrest that has killed 27 people and wounded nearly 1,000. The United States, Britain and Australia have recently advised against travel to anywhere in Thailand, not just Bangkok.
Arrivals at Bangkok's main Suvarnabhumi airport dropped by a third in April, putting a government target of 15.5 million tourists this year in doubt and dealing a blow to an industry that supports 6 percent of the economy.
Following are some advisories from foreign governments:
BRITAIN - On April 27, the British government advised against all travel to the country because "violent incidents of an unpredictable nature are occurring in many parts of Thailand", citing protests and incidents in tourist destinations such as Pattaya, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai and Ayuthaya.
In 2009, 841,000 British tourists came to Thailand, more than from any other European country, according to government data.
AUSTRALIA - The Australian government has also advised its citizens to "reconsider your need to travel to Thailand".
"There is a strong possibility of violent clashes in Bangkok and in other parts of Thailand between demonstrators and security forces. These clashes could involve the use of lethal force and could occur at any time."
In 2009, 647,000 Australians visited Thailand.
THE UNITED STATES - On April 28, the State Department advised against non-essential travel to Thailand. In 2009, 627,000 Americans came to Thailand.
GERMANY - The German government has issued a heightened security alert for Thailand and tour operators have cancelled tours to Bangkok and some destinations in northern provinces.
Some 573,000 Germans visited Thailand in 2009.
CANADA - Canada warned on April 28 against non-essential travel to Thailand. "The security situation is very volatile with significant potential for further civil unrest, violent clashes, and attacks." About 170,000 Canadians came to Thailand in 2009.
NEW ZEALAND- New Zealand warned against non-essential travel to Thailand and advised citizens concerned about their safety to consider leaving the country. "There is high risk to your security in Thailand due to the uncertain political situation, civil unrest and threat from terrorism," it said.
Some 88,000 New Zealanders visited Thailand in 2009.
JAPAN - Japan raised its security risk level for Thailand to 2 out of the maximum 4 on April 27, advising its nationals to seriously reconsider travel plans to the affected areas and take precautions if they did decide to make a trip. Just over a million Japanese tourists came to Thailand in 2009.
CHINA - On April 26, Beijing warned its people not to visit and to "temporarily leave Bangkok if possible" if already there.
Chinese tourists cancelled in droves in April after violence on April 10 that spilled into the Khao San Road area, popular with low-budget travellers. Some 778,000 people travelled to Thailand from China in 2009. Another 319,000 came from Hong Kong.
SINGAPORE - Singaporeans have been advised against non-essential travel to Bangkok since April 10. "Singaporeans who are already in Bangkok are strongly advised to remain indoors as far as possible and avoid unnecessary travel within the city, in particular to avoid the areas where demonstrations are occurring."
SOUTH KOREA - South Korea is advising its citizens to avoid travel to Bangkok and other parts of Thailand.
TAIWAN - Taiwan is maintaining its "red" level alert on travel to the Bangkok area. Red is the highest level of alert in Taiwan's four-tier warning system and urges nationals to refrain from travelling to the affected area. About 350,000 Taiwanese tourists visited Thailand last year.
(Sources: Embassy and government websites; Thai Ministry of Tourism and Sports; tour operators)
Have the red shirts gone too far?
Thai premier rescinds offer for early election after the red shirts, who have been pressing for quick elections, said they agreed in principle but gradually added a list of conditions of their own, including that Mr. Abhisit and his top deputy surrender to police over an April 10 attempt by security forces to disperse protesters that left 25 people dead.
I prepared a trip report. Enjoy!
D1 Bangkok, hotel- Majestic Suites, Nana Plaza. Took a shower and drank my first thai beer, went out for another beer in a bar. Enjoyed it while watching the life goes by. Decided to go to Eden’s Club. Went in, ordered a beer and the mamasan explained me everything, the ladies came and I picked one and she picked another one. So we went into the room. Guys what a fun I had, two girls and me in the middle of action with them. The room was small but had mirrors everywhere. They undressed me and gave me a shower, then we went to have some fun. Very nice experience. The girls were very good looking and funny, we laughed, did everything and I went out very satisfied. Next I went to a nana plaza to have one beer and then went to a bar with good live music when I met a good looking freelancer but did not take her with me to a hotel as I was to tired.
D2 Went to see Bangkok. Later i went to Tulipp Inn massage, great place with a selection of average girls but skilled very well. I had to walk trough a beauty saloon to get to the “reception”. Picked one girl and so we went upstairs. She undressed me and gave a shower, then a good oil massage. Then again we had a good fun, the most funny thing was when she kissed my back she went down and suddenly I felt her tounge in my black hole J (this massage parlour is famous for it). She was not happy (I just love the look of their faces when the show they are not happy in a funny way– I cant explain it, I just love it), that I finished to early, allowed me to rest for a while and the round 2 came. I could barely walk when I left the place. I went to a bar with live music met some freelancers had few beers and again went to a hotel alone because I had to get up early in the morning.
D3 Full day trip. Got back tired, relaxed a bit in a hotel and then went for the night fun. Went to my favourite live music bar, had a few beers and then picked up a freelancer who was sitting with a friend and drinking Guinness. She was pretty, one of the best I met in Thailand and also very communicative one. We went for late dinner and then to a hotel. What can I say more, perfect body perfect every part of it, truly GF experience.
D4 Woke up and immediately smiled when I saw who’s next to me completely naked. Brown small perfect body. She was so innocent, so nice, so good. I miss her J After she left I started to pack my things and next I took a taxi to the airport. Had a beer at the airport and so I went to Phuket. Found my driver and we went straight to Patong. I stayed in Summer Breeze hotel, when I arrived Bill said hello I also met his staff which by all standards was extremely friendly and helpful all the time I stayed in Phuket. Its a perfect Patong hotel with good rooms, food and service. Then I went to have a beer and crab fried rice. In the evening went to the Mai Thai Bar, said hello to the girls played some games had few beers, then I realized it was 2 am. Went back to the hotel and on the way I picked a freelancer. Had a good fun with her.
D5 Woke up at 13:00 said good bye to the girl and went down to have some breakfast. Met a Canadian guy and we talked a bit. Went upstairs to the room and at about 19:00 went to the Shipwrecks bar, had a few beers there and next I visited a couple of bars and after some time went to A Go Go. Very nice girls , nice atmosphere, picked a girl and went to a hotel. Amazing body, beautifull big eyes, she told me her story, I told her mine. Great night to remember.
D6 Another beautiful morning with an angel next to me. Went alone to Phi Phi islands for full day trip. Met nice people and a Polish guy who is living in Phuket for 4 years. ( he is 28 now). We had a nice day - talking as he had a chance to speak in his native language. He gave me some Expat’s view on some things etc. Went back to the hotel, had a shower, went down to eat something. Then the Shipwrecks, than some bars etc. Did not find what I was looking for so I went to hotel alone.
D7 Went to James Bond island. Got back to hotel and went straight to the Mai Thai Bar. Met Nicke, and other BMs. Bill was also there. Met 2 cool Swedish guys and we all spend the whole night drinking at MTB. The atmosphere there - just amazing. Met a girl at MTB, I bf her and we left to a hotel at 02:00. She was a very friendly girl with character which I liked very much.
D8 Woke up and saw an angel again, it was around 12:00, as she had a big hangover and preferred to go home than hang on the beach. So i went to the beach alone, had few beers while relaxing in the shade. Got back to the room and had a shower. Went to the massage parlour and the girl gave me a nice masasage. Very funny experience as she took me to a room without the walls , only small curtain seperated us from my neighbour. Had a lot of fun listening to many different “noises”. After some time another girl appeared and asked why my “friend” is sleeping, and she asked if I wanted a BJ, I said ok and she gave my a great BJ while the other one was kissing me all over body. I went back to a hotel and then after some time to Shipwrecks and than to MTB. Nicke and the Swedish guys were there and we also spend the whole evening there. I rang the bell and bar fined the same girl and we went to hotel. A night to remember, I really liked her.
D9 Woke up and realized that we were holding each others hand. Started to pack myself. She was lauging at me as I couldn’t make my suitcase closed. We wished each other good luck and so we went, she went home I went to the airport. Landed in Bangkok and changed the plane to Chiang Rai. Arrived in Chiang Rai, took a taxi, went to a hotel Golden Triangle Inn, met the owner and booked a private trip for the next day. Went to eat something and had few beers. The night life almost does not exist there. Went to sleep.(nice break to recharge my batteries).
D10 Went to Golden Triangle etc. Had a nice local food. Got back to hotel and then to airport. Arrived in Bangkok two hours late, my driver was waiting for me and took me to Pattaya. Arrived to the Sabai Lodge – Sabai Wing at 02:00, took shower and decided to have some night fun. Went to the bar, smoked water pipe, had few beers and went straight to the Beach Road and picked up a freelancer. She was by far the smallest girl I had in Thailand. Great body great attitude. Went sleep at 06:00.
D11 08:00 I felt someone’s hand under my pants. Had a 2nd round. Went back to sleep. She left at 12:00 but wanted to stay. I said no for 10 times J Went down to have something to eat and next to the Soapy - Sabai Dee. Went inside, looked at the fishbow, found the one and went upstairs with her. I really liked the soapy thing. She undressed me, preapered a bath for me, gave me a nice massage on the bed, washed me carefully in the bath , prepared the water matterace and put a lot of soap on it, asked me to lay down on it and put a soap on me and washed me without using her hands. Than we had shower and then to the bed for pleasure. This was the time I decided I will have a soapy everyday while in Pattaya. Went back to hotel, relaxed by the pool, had dinner and went to Walking Street. Pattaya if it comes to P4P can’t be compared to any place in Thailand. Lot of girls available almost 24hrs a day. Went to Secrets a go go, and then to Angelwitch a go go. Met a girl there and I bar fined her. We had some nice time in bed but she was a bit to drunk.
D12 Woke up, said good bye to the girl and went for day time fun to Soi 6 bars. Spotted the one I was looking for and had a good sex. Went back to hotel and as usall relaxed by the pool. Decided to go for another soapy – this time Sabai Land. Had a nice time there but the rooms were not as good as Sabai Dee. Went back to hotel. Again went to Walking Street, had a nice time in the bars, went back to a hotel hoping that I will pick a freelancer but I did not find the one.
D13 Woke up alone. Went for a soapy, this time for Sabai Rooms. Better rooms than Sabai Land but still Sabai Dee is the best out of these 3. Had a model look girl. I liked her very much. Went back and as usual relaxed by the pool. Again in the evening went to Walking Street. Visited some bars, talked with girls, had a lot of fun and met a Russian guy. We went to some bars, discos and ended in a Russian go go club where the prices were extremely high.
D14 Again alone. Went for soapy to Sabai Dee, picked a girl. She was really good. Had one of the best shags ever. She wanted to come to my hotel. She kept asking for it many times. Again relaxed by the pool. In the evening Walking Street as usual. Smoked a water pipe and decided that I had to find some girl for the night. Found one in a go go. She was average but had a nice body and it was a GF experience. We want for a drink to some bars and then for a dinner, she fed me like a child J She really took care of me, told me that she wants me to be happy, showed me other girls on the street, laughed at me, asked if I want two girls funJ we want to a hotel holding each others hands. As soon as I opened my room door and entered the room she pushed me on the bed and jumped on me. She kissed me, undressed me and we had a really good fun in bed.
D15 I woke up, looked at my girl and smiled. It was amazing. I gave her a good tip and she left. I decided to go for my last soapy to Sabai Dee. So I went. Choose a good looking girl but after 2 weeks of drinking and full of sex I couldn’t finish. I told her ok I am tired, but she said no and finished it with a BJ, the best one I have ever had in my life. Nice happy ending of my Thailand trip. Packed my bags , had my last meal and went to Bangkok airport.
Hope you enjoyed my report.
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Enjoyed reading the trip report from Easy Lover 222.
Very well done!
Bunky
Nice report, indeed, Easy Lover222!
[QUOTE=Easy Lover222]... the most funny thing was when she kissed my back she went down and suddenly I felt her tongue in my black hole J (this massage parlour is famous for it)...[/QUOTE]
It's called "rimming" or "rim-job" or "anilingus". I'm surprised as it seems, reading your report, that you didn't get one at the Eden Club the day before? Usually, it's part of the girls' routine there (at least, it was the case each time I visited this place).
[QUOTE=Easy Lover222]D3 Full day trip. Got back tired, relaxed a bit in a hotel and then went for the night fun. Went to my favourite live music bar, had a few beers and then picked up a freelancer who was sitting with a friend and drinking Guinness.[/QUOTE]Great report. Thanks for taking the time to write. BTW: what is your favorite live music bar?
[QUOTE=11Bravo]Great report. Thanks for taking the time to write. BTW: what is your favorite live music bar?[/QUOTE]Bangkok Beat soi 7/1
Piper - IP 84.88.59.3 is listed as belonging in Spain (Barcelona)
Probably originating from a net cafe. (report from 15 days ago and I just saw it)
To those of you seeing "messages" you didn't send - CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD to something less apparent:
1 capital letter,
at least 1 number
and the rest as lower case
and maybe throw in a "special symbol" as well.
THEN let them try to hack it. But send it to yourself in an email so YOU won't forget it either.
[QUOTE=Easy Lover222]Bangkok Beat soi 7/1[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. Was there twice last month, but didn't care too much for the band - too funkadelic or along those lines.
Myself, I like more of hard (read OLD) rock [have been spoiled by Dubai's Seaview band], but perhaps they "harden" up later - I was there early, and given I didn't care for the music, decided to move on after a couple of beers.
But next time I'm in town, will have to give it another try.
After my first trip to Thailand. In jan/feb I booked the tickets for my birthday in may just for one week but as I was forced to change my job I decided to go to the region again in April for three weeks. I went to Bangkok for 3 days, stayed in majestic suites, visited couple of freelancer bars. One especially in soi 7/1, the name was Bangkok. Just next to eden club. I met a girl there and had a wonderful time, dancing all the night long, then eating with her in a local dining establishment and then had a nice time in a hotel. Her english was very good and I really enjoyed her company. It was songkran time so it was a great experience to me + some fighting between yellow and red shirts. Second day I was leaving the night scene to my hotel and on my way back I met her again, what a coinsidence, we got back to the club, danced a bit and again to hotel. Nex day I had a flight to saigon-vietnam, I took a cuple of trips there and on one night I ordered a girl to my hotel (using receptionist guy). The name of the hotel was indochine hotel. A lot of massage placec and bars all around saigon, bit different that Thailand but still ok. Then I took a bus to Cambodia.phnom penh, higly recomended because of beautiful cheap and nice girls (they have darker skin than thai girls). Stayed in flamingo hotel in the middle of the action, visited couple of bars. In one of them I met a german guy, then we took our girls and went to martinis disco. Had a nice time there. Then I went to siem reap by bus to see the temples. A must see! Almost no night life in terms of girls but it was well worth it. I met wonderful people there. The went by plane to KL and stayed in concorde hotel, had a nice massage there and the next day went to krabi. Ao nang to see the railey beach. Very nice. Stayed in ao nang in beach terrace hotel which was non gf, but it was ok as the night life was almost none. Met some american girls and a new zeelander and had a nice time in discos. After that I went to samui for one week-chaweng-island resort. Samui is a great place and the atmosphere is superb. Met a girl in harrys africa bar and stayed with her for a week. Great time I had. Took jet skis. Reliable one not as those in phuket. There a nice bars just on the beach in samui and thats what I loved the most.
Third trip in may. Only to Pattaya for one week. I don't like Pattaya but it was close and cheap for one week holiday. As I like soapy massage I went there every day (sabai dee, sabai inn, sabai rooms) + some day time fun in soi 5 or 6. Don't remember. Stayed in sunshine hotel.nice hotel close to the action.
I love Thailand, but I would recomend Cambodia also.
[QUOTE=11Bravo]Thanks for the reply. Was there twice last month, but didn't care too much for the band - too funkadelic or along those lines.
Myself, I like more of hard (read OLD) rock [have been spoiled by Dubai's Seaview band], but perhaps they "harden" up later - I was there early, and given I didn't care for the music, decided to move on after a couple of beers.
But next time I'm in town, will have to give it another try.[/QUOTE]I always managed to have a good time there.
[QUOTE=11Bravo]. Myself, I like more of hard (read OLD) rock[/QUOTE]
Bravo, next time, try "5 STAR" on soi cowboy right next to country road. small dark place, small stage with non descript girls doing the shuffle, but good old fashionned rock n roll.
Not really a pick up place, but the Master, AKA Piper1 pulled "Island Girl" from there. Ask him abt it next time you see him.
[QUOTE=1Ball] Bravo, next time, try "5 STAR" on soi cowboy ...
Piper1 pulled "Island Girl" from there. [/QUOTE]
No, I picked up Jungle Girl (the skinny one) at 5 Star rock'n'roll bar. I picked up Island Girl (not so skinny!) from "The Office" bar across the road from Giotto's. Don't you recognise her?
[QUOTE=1Ball]Bravo, next time, try "5 STAR" on soi cowboy right next to country road. [/QUOTE]Thanks, I am VERY familiar with "Live Music", been going there for years. Spent a number of evenings there this past trip. Enjoy sitting at table right outside the door so I can watch the passing crowd while also catching the music. In fact, everytime I left Bangkok Beat, 5 Star was where I was headed.
And while I do like the place, feel a little bit like "Goldilocks"... Bangkok Beat sound is too "modern", 5 Star too "old"... I do like the band, but their play list seems a bit limited, their strength, to me anyway, the blues. While I do like Gary Moore, I want some variety (as in they do "All Along the Watchtower" great, but no "Zombie")...
Never really cared for Cowboy's Country Roads, but the one that USED to be on Soi 19 better. From signage, guess it might have moved above Soi 5's Foodland, but never made it there.
Likewise, while the go-go's do have [i]some[/i] attractions, I find most of the "music" played there (I know, some will ask, "They play music?", as I used to do at dxb's Cyclone), but still, the tunes are mostly crap for me.
Clone the old Seaview band...
Is this what happens in LOS Soi what??
ROTFLMFAO
[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Is this what happens in LOS Soi what??
ROTFLMFAO[/QUOTE]
Think it's from Soi Chang somewhere around Chiang Mai
However this fellow from Sri Lanka was also horny, but wasn't so lucky since good pussy is harder to find there.
Has anyone checked the airfares to Thailand? Did today for a friend and can't believe that the fares for Coach are near $2,000 USD! That is insane I have never seen the fares jump like this just last month my friend got a ticket for slightly over $1,000. You would think with Thailand trying to draw toursit back would lower the fares to generate business?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Has anyone checked the airfares to Thailand? Did today for a friend and can't believe that the fares for Coach are near $2,000 USD! That is insane I have never seen the fares jump like this just last month my friend got a ticket for slightly over $1,000. You would think with Thailand trying to draw toursit back would lower the fares to generate business?LBM[/QUOTE]#1. The number of flights in this period have been cut back from last year. #2. The flights that are available are very full, Y class full fare in most cases. #3. Summer flights from the USA are always the most expensive. Guess what? It's summer.
Have your friend look here at "EVA Air": [url]http://eservice.evaair.com/online/html/english/plan/EIBSA001.asp?mode=PROMO[/url]
Scroll down the page and look for "I'm not an EVERGREEN CLUB member but I still want to look up the exclusive fares." Go inside that link and give it a real going over. You'll find something.
Also, consider the EVA "Elite Class", if you poke around in that same Hot E page enough right now you'll find a nice class upgrade for almost the same price as coach. The little things in Elite definitely make that flight seem shorter.
Taiwan based "China Airlines" [url]http://www.china-airlines.com/en/index.htm[/url], currently with no promos, is a bit more expensive than EVA right now. And "Thai Air" [url]http://www.thaiair.com/[/url] is running about $1600 total for the nonstop. So, it's about normal for this time of year really.
BTW, I would NOT recommend Korean Air, Cathay Pacific, or any of the American based carriers. They take longer, your seat & legroom are too small for the money, and they are more expensive right now anyway.
Good luck with it LBM, keep me posted.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Has anyone checked the airfares to Thailand? Did today for a friend and can't believe that the fares for Coach are near $2,000 USD! That is insane I have never seen the fares jump like this just last month my friend got a ticket for slightly over $1,000. You would think with Thailand trying to draw toursit back would lower the fares to generate business?LBM[/QUOTE]Yes, I've been looking and it is crazy. In some cases the prices have gone up 75-100 percent. I imagine it will go down, though, as fewer people will be buying tickets. Supply and demand will kick in eventually.
I did see some good fares on China Airlines to BKK from SFO via Beijing (not my preferred route!).
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Has anyone checked the airfares to Thailand? Did today for a friend and can't believe that the fares for Coach are near $2,000 USD! That is insane I have never seen the fares jump like this just last month my friend got a ticket for slightly over $1,000. You would think with Thailand trying to draw toursit back would lower the fares to generate business?
LBM[/QUOTE]Lbm,
This is supply and demand most airline seat are mostly book only a few seat avalible from US to Asia from now to mid Aug, this is high season and the China expo is a hot ticket now, I got ticket 2 week ago for 1680 USD from SFO to HK in end of June no choice a business trip, I think you can go from NYC to London then to HK and back to US for about the same price, ticket from London to Bangkok round trip is only 800 Euros.
Fast Eddie 48
This wont be much interest for the US based ppl but it seems every other country are been offered discounted fares to get to bkk on thai airlines
And not because of the recent civil unrest but the airline is celebrating 50 years
There are time restrictions and certain rules so you cant book it too far ahead
[url]http://www.thaiair.com/offers/special-event-promotions/en/50anniversary.htm[/url]
Some damn good prices that ill be taking up
Yes, with nearly 3 decade of working for a Airline understand the theory of supply and demand. Along with all the Code shares with other airlines seat capacity is getting less and less to certain locations. I did some research with a special website I use for going standby given to former retired employees and see out of the west coast that since most Airlines that travel to the Far East normally have to make a stop between going to Thailand. Like Cathay out of SFO, goes through Hong Kong, Eva and China through TPE, United, Delta/Northwest through Narita. These Flights are full but from these stopovers there seem to be plenty of seats to Bangkok.
As for Eva, I pretty much use them exclusively paying or going standby, personally they are a excellent carrier and I have travel standby on nearly every carrier to Asia.They have a mix schedule out of SFO, on days ( June ) they run 3 flights one at 1am, 1:40am and then a another 6pm, but on these days they have contract to carry a lot of Cargo and Mail and therefore due to weight restrictions have limited seats for passengers to TPE then it gets even tougher since Eva seem to have cut the first flight out of TPE-BKK and only have 9:00am thereafter you have to wait until midnight. Top that with Cathay, China, and Singapore leaving to Hong Kong and TPE, these Airlines are overselling their flights and then calling EVA, to protect seats in case they do oversell along with USAirways now having a code share with Eva making bookings from SFO/Singapore cut seat capacity.
So many reasons for the fares to go up but personally I have never seen the prices go up to this level of 1800.00 usd just for coach. The airlines checked, Thai, Cathay, United, China, Singapore all seem to be in the same area which lead one to believe that price fixing is involved but many of try to prove that and have failed. The most I have ever paid for traveling to and from in June has been 1200.00usd on Eva.. but 1800.00 WTF is this world coming too?
Barko, I have been upgraded many times by Eva, but I'm a short guy and those aircraft they fly 777/77W are great for guys like me since even in coach those seats are about the same leg room I get in Deluxe coach. I know exactly what rolls to pick or ask for when I go standby aside from the exit rolls. As you indicated Eva is the number #1 airline for me but since the closure of the airport in Bangkok they have changed their schedule and sometimes it is a pain in the ass trying to figure them out.
Thats life....LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Thats life.[/QUOTE]I hear you. I got a quickie EVA Hot E return BKK-LAX-BKK two months ago, with an elite bump to the front, for $780 net. (This was unbelievably cheap for this day & age.) But the seasonal price differential this year is totally shwacked, doubled and more.
BTW: The EVA website, which can be complicated enough with all of their separate pricing structures and date embargoes, is being over-hammered right this minute by hits generated from the USA.
Tell your bud not to think too much and to get his tickets asap. Anything through an Asia Pacific hub is going to be sold out this summer pronto.
Does anyone know about the new forum Argentina Private on ISG ? It seems like you need a new id to get in.
[QUOTE=Weelock]Does anyone know about the new forum Argentina Private on ISG ? It seems like you need a new id to get in.[/QUOTE]
It's not new, it's been around for years, run by Jackson, who is based in Buenos Aires. I think the only thing new is the link to it on ISG
[QUOTE=Member #2041]It's not new, it's been around for years, run by Jackson, who is based in Buenos Aires. I think the only thing new is the link to it on ISG[/QUOTE]
For Argentina Private ISG, you need a new login ID to post, why ? For other sections like for USA, Russia, and Thailand etc you don't.
Anyway, thanks for the reply...
I just received this in an emai. from China Airlines.
I haven't checked it out...but here it is:
[quote]Travel Period: August 23, 2010 through November 18, 2010
Destinations Lowest fare starting from
Bangkok**
$785*
Ho Chi Minh City/Hanoi**
$875*
Bali/Kuala Lumpur/Jakarta
$1115*
Pnomh Penh
$1065*
Yangon
$1115*
**Enroute stopover not allowed
Tickets must be purchased by June 15, 2010.
Taxes are not included in above roundtrip fares.
Terms and conditions apply.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Weelock]For Argentina Private ISG, you need a new login ID to post, why ? For other sections like for USA, Russia, and Thailand etc you don't.
Anyway, thanks for the reply...[/QUOTE]Weelock,
Why are posting question about Argentina here, it is a seperate web site just ask Jackson for a new pass world what the big deal, you been doing too much jack off in China.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Weelock,
Why are posting question about Argentina here, it is a seperate web site just ask Jackson for a new pass world what the big deal, you been doing too much jack off in China.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
I said it was an off topic. WTF, I have noticed in the past when other members ask a question, you always like to attack it. Why do you always condescend other people, FXXXK d X i X c X k head.....Some attitude.
Jackson doesn't answer his email. The moderator go over them first and it takes for ever to reach Jackson.
[QUOTE=Redfield10]I just received this in an emai. from China Airlines.
I haven't checked it out...but here it is:[/QUOTE]Yep, those WERE really good deals: on exactly 4 cheap seats per flight. And the standard crapshoot trying to get one: [url]http://www.china-airlines.com/en/promotionen/promotionen000758.htm[/url]
OK, so I looked and looked, and as far as I can tell, it's just another shuck & jive show to get you into the booking page. Fares June & July are $1370++, August is $1150++.
"Hurry! Cheap seats to Bangkok!" "Book before June 15!" (OK, well sure maybe if you wanted to go in October.) BTW, what I DID find is that you really can get really cheap seats for November & December right now if you have the wherewithal to do it. $625++.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Thanks for this tidbit. It was very valuable. I was so tired of having to get a new number every time I hit Thailand. When I bought the card this time I mentioned the *1013 to the attendant and she had no idea. She said that she always does it on the computer there at the desk. I did, however, forget to go to the desk on my way out of Thailand but I remembered the *1013 when I got in the plane. It was hard to make out what the recording was saying, but I ended up extending 180 days for a deduction of 12 baht. I think there were 60 and 90 day options for less money as well.[/QUOTE]Before I left March 14 I did an option where I could keep my number for 6 months. But when I arrived last night and turned on my phone it said SIM card invalid. I stopped by the dtac shop in the airport and the guy said it was turned off two weeks ago. He recommended that I go to the 7-11 that is in the airport and buy a TrueMove SIM card. I did that. It was 49 baht and I bought 150 baht of time. True gives you 1 year without recharging. When I added my minutes I got a text saying it was good until June 4, 2011. Also with that chip it is only like 5 baht/min for international calls.
After some stupid drunken bareback in Pattaya with a few girls last January, I went for a full STI screen a few weeks ago. Got the results a week ago and luckily I got the all clear.
Not encouraging bareback btw, I am just saying I was lucky not to catch anything.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Before I left March 14 I did an option where I could keep my number for 6 months. But when I arrived last night and turned on my phone it said SIM card invalid. I stopped by the dtac shop in the airport and the guy said it was turned off two weeks ago. He recommended that I go to the 7-11 that is in the airport and buy a TrueMove SIM card. I did that. It was 49 baht and I bought 150 baht of time. True gives you 1 year without recharging. When I added my minutes I got a text saying it was good until June 4, 2011. Also with that chip it is only like 5 baht/min for international calls.[/QUOTE]
that's pretty much interesting!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Before I left March 14 I did an option where I could keep my number for 6 months. But when I arrived last night and turned on my phone it said SIM card invalid. I stopped by the dtac shop in the airport and the guy said it was turned off two weeks ago. He recommended that I go to the 7-11 that is in the airport and buy a TrueMove SIM card. I did that. It was 49 baht and I bought 150 baht of time. True gives you 1 year without recharging. When I added my minutes I got a text saying it was good until June 4, 2011. Also with that chip it is only like 5 baht/min for international calls.[/QUOTE]With AIS you have a plan that gives you 1 year for 100 Baht recharge. The problem is that you have to use it once every 89 days (Will expire if not used for 90 days, nobody tells you that if you don't ask). The best option when overseas is to send a SMS back to Thailand which they say costs 20 Baht.
Better ask True if that is also the case there. Better safe than sorry.
(If you like me can't afford to lose the number because I use it for my online banking to receive the OTPs [One Time PIN] when abroad).
[QUOTE=Barko]
"Hurry! Cheap seats to Bangkok!" "Book before June 15!" (OK, well sure maybe if you wanted to go in October.) BTW, what I DID find is that you really can get really cheap seats for November & December right now if you have the wherewithal to do it. $625++.[/QUOTE]
What the airline for $625 or website ?
[QUOTE=Weelock]What the airline for $625 or website ?[/QUOTE]
Check China airlines. That $625 fare may not include taxes, so buyer beware.
October is a low fare month, so you will find that when the fares come out in July most of the other carrier will have lower fares also. June, July, and 1/2 August (depending on the carrier) , and December are high fare months.
March, April, September, October, and 1/2 November are low fare months. That is the ariline "general" fare periods. If they need to fill some seats that they will lower some prices on a short term window, but you can judge your airfare prices using those guidelines. You want the lowest prices go in a "low" fare month.
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard]Check China airlines. That $625 fare may not include taxes, so buyer beware.
October is a low fare month, so you will find that when the fares come out in July most of the other carrier will have lower fares also. June, July, and 1/2 August (depending on the carrier) , and December are high fare months.
March, April, September, October, and 1/2 November are low fare months. That is the ariline "general" fare periods. If they need to fill some seats that they will lower some prices on a short term window, but you can judge your airfare prices using those guidelines. You want the lowest prices go in a "low" fare month.[/QUOTE]
China Airlines fares to Asia are always quoted before $300+ of fees and taxes. I'd be willing to bet that China Airlines $625 fare is close to $950 all in. Which is still a very good fare, just not spectacular enough to make you book something this early for November or December if you have any uncertainty at all about your plans - and BTW, I have found that low fare season for travel from the US to Asia on most carriers extends thru Nov. 30 departures and roughly December 20th for the return leg.
[QUOTE=Redfield10]I just received this in an emai. from China Airlines.
I haven't checked it out...but here it is:[/QUOTE]
Redfield
You can fly Cathay Pacific for a little over $1,000 from the west coast including taxes. Rated #2 in the world for service, food and comfort. Personally I like the airline.
China Air has a poor reputation in all respects and is somewhere near Aeroflot for safety records. .
A few dollars more goes a long way for 35 hours roundtrip flying.
Better yet use air miles. I just booked 1st class on Cathay round trip LAX - BKK for a whopping $40.
Guido88
Actually, I flew Cathay in Feb. To Hong Kong and BKK. I didn't really like it. Small, old seats. Unless you upgrade. I was very surprised because I"ve heard so many good things about CP.
I actually preferred EVA and China Airlines. You have the wrong Airlines. China Air is not China Airlines.
[QUOTE=Guido88]Redfield
You can fly Cathay Pacific for a little over $1,000 from the west coast including taxes. Rated #2 in the world for service, food and comfort. Personally I like the airline.
China Air has a poor reputation in all respects and is somewhere near Aeroflot for safety records. .
A few dollars more goes a long way for 35 hours roundtrip flying.
Better yet use air miles. I just booked 1st class on Cathay round trip LAX - BKK for a whopping $40.
Guido88[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Guido88]Redfield
You can fly Cathay Pacific for a little over $1,000 from the west coast including taxes. Rated #2 in the world for service, food and comfort. Personally I like the airline.
China Air has a poor reputation in all respects and is somewhere near Aeroflot for safety records. .
A few dollars more goes a long way for 35 hours roundtrip flying.
Better yet use air miles. I just booked 1st class on Cathay round trip LAX - BKK for a whopping $40.
Guido88[/QUOTE]Guido,
That is wrong info asia mile LAX to BKK take 85,000 mile round trip on enconomy ,they don't have any seat for redemption booking until end of sep ,I try to book a seat 6 month ago for June no chance ,I have to buy a ticket from SFO to HK cost 1600 usd for mid June for my business trip ,I have over 180,000 mile some will expire soon and all tax will cost about 180 usd included dep tax in bangkok not 40 usd .
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Guido88]Redfield
You can fly Cathay Pacific for a little over $1,000 from the west coast including taxes. Rated #2 in the world for service, food and comfort. Personally I like the airline.
China Air has a poor reputation in all respects and is somewhere near Aeroflot for safety records. .
A few dollars more goes a long way for 35 hours roundtrip flying.
Better yet use air miles. I just booked 1st class on Cathay round trip LAX - BKK for a whopping $40.
Guido88[/QUOTE]Hmm, sure Guido, but steer clear of the Australian Merlot. Heartburn city. ;)
I'd been a Marco Polo Gold for a long time, (Diamond 2 yrs) and got free bumps frontwards on nearly every flight. But I quietly let it fall into Green a while back. For me, the Thai Air nonstop became the only way to go.
Cathay uses older planes, the seat pitch in econo is 32", the total flight times for most LAX-BKK and return flights are 20 hours including a BIG PITA stop at NewHKG.
Thai Air, the econo seat pitch is 34.5" and takes 14-15 hours non stop. That's as fast as you can go without being onboard your own Gulfstream G650. Heh.
Side note regarding other carriers I've used when my impending dates were unavailable. Compare: Discount carrier EVA's seat pitch is 33", total flight time 17 hours including stop in TPE. Also, I rarely use ChinaAirlines, but it has better connections and flight departure-arrival times than almost all carriers, seat pitch 32", ttlfltt also 17 hrs, their safety record has been excellent for over 10 years, (the ratings you are looking at must be old, for years pre 1997.) In any case, I personally would not mention ChinaAirlines and Aeroflot in the same sentence. I think you must be referring to Air China, that would make more sense.
OFD (Open for discussion) Cathay's food is a LITTLE better and the flight attendants are a definitely nicer/cuter.
Cathay used to be great, I mean really really great. But now IMHO, their econo class for long haul has slipped into "pick one" oblivion status. It is far better than US carriers, most certainly, but it would be a long stretch of the imagination to compare it to Singapore or Malaysian Air. (Short haul flights are a totally different story, CX is right up there with any carrier in the world.)
Guido I looked and looked, and couldn't find any of the Cathay $1000 SFO/LAX-BKK RT promo fare seats anywhere. The real price right now seems to be hovering around $2300.
[b]A quick tip regarding all flights including First Class. Save yourself vast amounts of time & hassles this summer:[/b] Use your "online check in" option, make sure to get into the "online check in" line early at the airport, then you'll simply blow through check in, maybe 3 minutes. (Also, you're smart, so if you are late or have a lot of luggage, use the SkyCaps, a $20 tip is waay worth it. Try it, you'll see!) :D
[QUOTE=Guido88]China Air has a poor reputation in all respects and is somewhere near Aeroflot for safety records.
Guido88[/QUOTE]Not flaming, but can you elaborate about their safety records?
[QUOTE=Redfield10]Actually, I flew Cathay in Feb. To Hong Kong and BKK. I didn't really like it. Small, old seats. Unless you upgrade. I was very surprised because I"ve heard so many good things about CP.
I actually preferred EVA and China Airlines. You have the wrong Airlines. China Air is not China Airlines.[/QUOTE]Redfield,
I fly with Cathay about 16 time a year for business ,they might not have the best service I give that honor to Singapore airline , they have the most flight and best connection ,cathay have 5 flight a day from west coast USA 3 from LAX and 2 from SFO to Hong kong and 6 flight a day from HK to Bangkok ,they use the new plane for the long haul flight to US and Europe and the older fleet in ASIA .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Guido,
That is wrong info asia mile LAX to BKK take 85,000 mile round trip on enconomy ,they don't have any seat for redemption booking until end of sep ,I try to book a seat 6 month ago for June no chance ,I have to buy a ticket from SFO to HK cost 1600 usd for mid June for my business trip ,I have over 180,000 mile some will expire soon and all tax will cost about 180 usd included dep tax in bangkok not 40 usd .
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Correct. I read the US$ 40 tax comment and was somewhat suprised , as it recently cost me HK $ 1400 ( US $ 180 ) on a CX redemption KL /HK/ Heathrow.
Plus as you rightly state, so hard to get redemption on long haul flights.
Interesting with Malaysian Airlines, I just go to the check in counter, and if they have seats, they will issue you a boarding pass immediately, and deduct the mileage there and then. Perfect!
[QUOTE=Redfield10]...I actually preferred EVA and China Airlines. You have the wrong Airlines. China Air is not China Airlines.[/QUOTE]China Air does not exist, it is Air China. But the one with the poor safety record is the Taiwanese China Airlines. I would never fly them if avoidable.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]China Air does not exist, it is Air China. But the one with the poor safety record is the Taiwanese China Airlines. I would never fly them if avoidable.[/QUOTE]China Airlines is often referred to as China Air.
[b]China Airlines[/b], ROC Taiwan based, Skytrax Official 4 star (safety & class- same as Thai, British, Korean, Japan AL):
[url]http://www.china-airlines.com/en/index.htm[/url]
[b]Air China[/b], PRC govt. owned, Skytrax 3 star (same as USA based United and Northwest AL):
[url]http://www.airchina.com/[/url]
Statistics show: No matter what airline you are on, you're always safer in the air than you are anywhere on the ground in Thailand. :D
I fly CAL (China airlines) across the Pacific 6 or 7 times a year. I am a Paragon member with them, which means the purser comes and bows in front of me, and my favourite magazine is in my seat when I board. The new 744 they fly to LAX is very nice, both in business and in first. The old 744 that goes to AMS and SFO is exactly that, old. There is PTV in business and first, but no AVOD. In the new 744, there is AVOD.
Service is always excellent, maybe due to my membership status, I don’t know. They walk me past other passengers, to let me off first, and walk me through customs at Bali airport.
I have recently started flying EVA also, on their new 777ER, nice aircraft, especially row number 6 or 10, middle aisle, as there is a secret little button under the leg rest which raises the leg rest parallel to the floor. Excellent food and cold bubbly.
If the plane crashes, I plan on asking for a BJ from one of the cute flight attendants as we plummet to the ground.
[QUOTE=1Ball]I fly CAL (China airlines) across the Pacific 6 or 7 times a year. I am a Paragon member with them, which means the purser comes and bows in front of me, and my favourite magazine is in my seat when I board. The new 744 they fly to LAX is very nice, both in business and in first. The old 744 that goes to AMS and SFO is exactly that, old. There is PTV in business and first, but no AVOD. In the new 744, there is AVOD.
Service is always excellent, maybe due to my membership status, I don’t know. They walk me past other passengers, to let me off first, and walk me through customs at Bali airport.
I have recently started flying EVA also, on their new 777ER, nice aircraft, especially row number 6 or 10, middle aisle, as there is a secret little button under the leg rest which raises the leg rest parallel to the floor. Excellent food and cold bubbly.
If the plane crashes, I plan on asking for a BJ from one of the cute flight attendants as we plummet to the ground.[/QUOTE]
I am a Diamaond with EVA, and the service is about the same. The service in Bali is nice, there was a two hour wait in to go through immigration one day, and I just smiled as my "guide " took care of the "paperwork", and I met him on the other side. EVA also takes care of my luggage, it is always set off to one side with an airline rep waiting to take me to my ride. :)
Where is that button??? :o
[QUOTE=1Ball]I fly CAL (China airlines) across the Pacific 6 or 7 times a year...If the plane crashes, I plan on asking for a BJ from one of the cute flight attendants as we plummet to the ground.[/QUOTE]And, you will probably get it as I know you are a [i]hansum[/i] man. At least that's what the girls say about you here in Bangkok! :D
Accidents:
8-12-70, 11-21-71, 2-27-80, 2-16-82, 2-16-89,4-26-94, 2-16-98, 8-22-89, 5-25-2002, 8-20-2007.
People call China Airline short China Air. These accidents all can be review in detail on AirSafe.com.
Some of these accidents are just bad luck being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Also in 2007, last accident there is evidence that they made a review of where they were hiring their pilots and revised their management and since have made a turn around of the company.When it comes to safety, many citations comes from " Inadequate Repairs ".
On a personal note I flew China Airlines in the 90's mostly as a paying passenger but never like the service overall out of SFO/TPE/HK, but I didn't have the priveleges like 1BALL, flying Business or First Class with access to their club. First never belonging to their club and not having enough miles on the book, I never was able to book a seat in advance and although I was always the first one to check-in, I was never able to get a exit roll. When I got to Taiwan in the morning I could never get or find anyone to help me with just a simple question. The plane out of SFO, then and even now uses a 747 that is nearly 30 years old and still have movie screen in the aisle and if you are short and old like me can barely see anything! My last flight on China Airline was in November, and bless their heart for putting me on after I found out at the last minute Eva couldn't obtain a seat for me on standby. But from check in to arriving in TPE, I knew why EVA was the airline of my choice.
I'm not pushing Eva, in fact if you like your choice now stay with it! gives me a better chance whenever I go standby. Don't let the numbers scare you there are other airlines flying in our friendly skies with worst records! But like 1Ball says if the plane starts to go down, I running to the back,rip off the dresses of the Flight Attendants and do my thing for one last time!
LBM
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Guido,
That is wrong info asia mile LAX to BKK take 85,000 mile round trip on enconomy ,they don't have any seat for redemption booking until end of sep ,I try to book a seat 6 month ago for June no chance ,I have to buy a ticket from SFO to HK cost 1600 usd for mid June for my business trip ,I have over 180,000 mile some will expire soon and all tax will cost about 180 usd included dep tax in bangkok not 40 usd .
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Although I am a member of Asia miles its not a program with value for me.
I used AA miles to redeem for the Cathay flight. Availability can be good. I have also booked Biz class with miles in the past just a few shorts days before traveling.
When using miles planning in advance is not a bad thing. I can usually get the bookings I am looking for.
As to the $40 taxes it is correct with AA miles. Takes more AA miles than Asia miles. However miles are meant to be burned. They lose value over time.
Costs vary depending on carrier and country. I just booked LAX to St Petersburg RU on Air France Biz class and those damn French taxes will run $160. Still a deal.
Looking at a Oct economy booking on Cathay LAX - BKK $1,004 is available. You guys do plan ahead?
https://book.cathaypacific.com/pl/CathayPacific/wds/FareServlet;jsessionid=SpVVMPSQLGhZx5Ww1g21Lpn6T1nvtjJhqJQZLpL0prx9l5g5pmK2!1912245772!945382263
As to safety records??? Comments I made are from 50 years memory and not historical facts. I cannot quote every Aeroflot crash either but will not fly Soviet airlines either based on memory. The exception would be Trans Aero.
Bottom line is we have many choices for comfort/value. Its our job as consumers to find the best of both.
Helps to be a cheap bastard like me.
Anyone wanting to learn more on mileage use should check out Flyer Talk.com for a wealth of info.
Barko - Nice quote on statistics. I tend to go for the French Reds.
Quote "Statistics show: No matter what airline you are on, you're always safer in the air than you are anywhere on the ground in Thailand."
Guido88
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Before I left March 14 I did an option where I could keep my number for 6 months. But when I arrived last night and turned on my phone it said SIM card invalid. I stopped by the dtac shop in the airport and the guy said it was turned off two weeks ago. He recommended that I go to the 7-11 that is in the airport and buy a TrueMove SIM card. I did that. It was 49 baht and I bought 150 baht of time. True gives you 1 year without recharging. When I added my minutes I got a text saying it was good until June 4, 2011. Also with that chip it is only like 5 baht/min for international calls.[/QUOTE]When in LOS March 2010 the girls there were using prefix 008 and 009 when making calls from cell phones to overseas. This routes the international call via VOIP (internet)and is somewhat cheaper, used it myself and audio quality is fine. Can be used with Truemove, 12call prepaid etc.
Between "boom boom" sessions you better invest some money in getting your planned "imported" Thai wife some English lessons as well as put some effort in teaching her yourself to reinforce what she has learnt!
Also, if at all possible, TRY to avoid the "trap" that her only knowledge of English is the "dirty" language expressed during sex!
Cheers!
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100609/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_immigration[/url]
If you use True Move use prefix '006'. Suppose to be cheaper than the two mentioned.
[QUOTE=Brian Boruu]When in LOS March 2010 the girls there were using prefix 008 and 009 when making calls from cell phones to overseas. This routes the international call via VOIP (internet)and is somewhat cheaper, used it myself and audio quality is fine. Can be used with Truemove, 12call prepaid etc.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Guido88]Although I am a member of Asia miles its not a program with value for me.
I used AA miles to redeem for the Cathay flight. Availability can be good. I have also booked Biz class with miles in the past just a few shorts days before traveling.
When using miles planning in advance is not a bad thing. I can usually get the bookings I am looking for.
As to the $40 taxes it is correct with AA miles. Takes more AA miles than Asia miles. However miles are meant to be burned. They lose value over time.
Costs vary depending on carrier and country. I just booked LAX to St Petersburg RU on Air France Biz class and those damn French taxes will run $160. Still a deal.
Looking at a Oct economy booking on Cathay LAX - BKK $1,004 is available. You guys do plan ahead?
https://book.cathaypacific.com/pl/CathayPacific/wds/FareServlet;jsessionid=SpVVMPSQLGhZx5Ww1g21Lpn6T1nvtjJhqJQZLpL0prx9l5g5pmK2!1912245772!945382263
As to safety records??? Comments I made are from 50 years memory and not historical facts. I cannot quote every Aeroflot crash either but will not fly Soviet airlines either based on memory. The exception would be Trans Aero.
Bottom line is we have many choices for comfort/value. Its our job as consumers to find the best of both.
Helps to be a cheap bastard like me.
Anyone wanting to learn more on mileage use should check out Flyer Talk.com for a wealth of info.
Barko - Nice quote on statistics. I tend to go for the French Reds.
Quote "Statistics show: No matter what airline you are on, you're always safer in the air than you are anywhere on the ground in Thailand."
Guido88[/QUOTE]Guido,
AA is a partner airline of Cathay pacific, I use it on my south america business trip do you know you can transfer all AA mile to Asia mile or you can call marco polo to book any other airline on the one world program using your asia mile also, contact AA customer service for that, for airline safetly CP and Singapore have very good record only one accident in 40 yr.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Guido,
AA is a partner airline of Cathay pacific, I use it on my south america business trip do you know you can transfer all AA mile to Asia mile or you can call marco polo to book any other airline on the one world program using your asia mile also, contact AA customer service for that, for airline safetly CP and Singapore have very good record only one accident in 40 yr.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Fast Eddie
I like the flexibility of the AA program, ability to get flights and I think fair mileage costs. Being able to book Cathay as a partner or fly into Russia is a plus.
Asia miles although they are "One World" I get better value from AA. As you mentioned its harder to get bookings with Asia miles.
As for your 180,000 miles due to expire. Most programs will extend your expiration dates with any activity in the account. A credit card purchase or some small participation in a promotion should work.
95% the miles I earn do not come from actual flights, I rarely buy tickets. I only use credit card and promotion miles.
All in all air miles offer substantial benefits if used correctly for Biz & 1st class. So large I am surprised the IRS is not taxing them as income.....
Best of luck
Guido88
[QUOTE=Guido88]Fast Eddie
I like the flexibility of the AA program, ability to get flights and I think fair mileage costs. Being able to book Cathay as a partner or fly into Russia is a plus.
Asia miles although they are "One World" I get better value from AA. As you mentioned its harder to get bookings with Asia miles.
As for your 180,000 miles due to expire. Most programs will extend your expiration dates with any activity in the account. A credit card purchase or some small participation in a promotion should work.
95% the miles I earn do not come from actual flights, I rarely buy tickets. I only use credit card and promotion miles.
All in all air miles offer substantial benefits if used correctly for Biz & 1st class. So large I am surprised the IRS is not taxing them as income.....
Best of luck
Guido88[/QUOTE]Guido88,
Are you sure you can get a redemption flight for just 40 USD first class on a long haul flight, it is hard to believe that airline add fuel tax, dep tax and processing charge, I once book a redemption flight from SF to Las vegas coach domestic flight tax is over 35 USD already.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=1Ball]I fly CAL (China airlines) across the Pacific 6 or 7 times a year. I am a Paragon member with them, which means the purser comes and bows in front of me, and my favourite magazine is in my seat when I board. The new 744 they fly to LAX is very nice, both in business and in first. The old 744 that goes to AMS and SFO is exactly that, old. There is PTV in business and first, but no AVOD. In the new 744, there is AVOD.
Service is always excellent, maybe due to my membership status, I don’t know. They walk me past other passengers, to let me off first, and walk me through customs at Bali airport.
I have recently started flying EVA also, on their new 777ER, nice aircraft, especially row number 6 or 10, middle aisle, as there is a secret little button under the leg rest which raises the leg rest parallel to the floor. Excellent food and cold bubbly.
If the plane crashes, I plan on asking for a BJ from one of the cute flight attendants as we plummet to the ground.[/QUOTE]To I ball,
I thought that you get BJ on business and first class any way, do you know which airline flight attended offer rimming please let me know, if the plane crash last thing you worry about is getting a BJ.
Hahaha
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Correct. I read the US$ 40 tax comment and was somewhat suprised , as it recently cost me HK $ 1400 ( US $ 180 ) on a CX redemption KL /HK/ Heathrow.
Plus as you rightly state, so hard to get redemption on long haul flights.
Interesting with Malaysian Airlines, I just go to the check in counter, and if they have seats, they will issue you a boarding pass immediately, and deduct the mileage there and then. Perfect![/QUOTE]to FreebieFan,
I have book ticket HK to BKK at HKIA on arrival from US at the Macro polo counter on the same day ,they alway have seat 6 flight a day or you can use your asia mile on dragon air for domestic flight to shanghai also .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Guido88,
Are you sure you can get a redemption flight for just 40 USD first class on a long haul flight, it is hard to believe that airline add fuel tax, dep tax and processing charge, I once book a redemption flight from SF to Las vegas coach domestic flight tax is over 35 USD already.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Just booked a first class round trip on Delta from Las Vegas to Houston with frequent flier miles (62,500) and the total charge was $10.
[QUOTE=David 2]Just booked a first class round trip on Delta from Las Vegas to Houston with frequent flier miles (62, 500) and the total charge was $10.[/QUOTE]That is a waste of those miles you can get to Bangkok with them. Want to trade.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Guido88,
Are you sure you can get a redemption flight for just 40 USD first class on a long haul flight, it is hard to believe that airline add fuel tax, dep tax and processing charge, I once book a redemption flight from SF to Las vegas coach domestic flight tax is over 35 USD already.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Fast Eddie
Sorry I was mistaken, it was $41.70. See below.
Carrier Flight Number Departing Arriving Booking
Code
City Date & Time City Time
Cathay Pacific 883 LOS ANGELES WED 24NOV
10:20 PM HONG KONG 5:40 AM Z
FF#: F93*** First Cl
Dragonair 900 HONG KONG FRI 26NOV
8:00 AM BEIJING 11:15 AM Z
FF#: F93*** First Cl
Cathay Pacific 708 BANGKOK SUVARNABH TUE 14DEC
10:50 AM HONG KONG 2:30 PM U
FF#: F93*** Business
Cathay Pacific 882 HONG KONG TUE 14DEC
4:25 PM LOS ANGELES 12:55 PM Z
FF#: F93*** First Cl
PASSENGER
JOHN *******
TICKET NUMBER
0012******144-**
FARE-USD
0
TAX
41.70
TICKET TOTAL
41.70
ADDITIONAL SERVICES CURRENCY AMOUNT
AAdvantage ® Reinstatement USD 0.00
Payment Type: AAdvantage Certificate, Master Card XXXXXXXXXXXX**** Total: $41.70
The costs depend on countries, number of miles redeemed and also the airline. As I said Biz class LAX- St. Petersburg RUwith Delta miles will run me $160 for a shorter flight on Air France.
For security, names and FF# have been changed.
It pays to study and work the best airline programs.
Guido88
[QUOTE=Darkman]That is a waste of those miles you can get to Bangkok with them. Want to trade.[/QUOTE]
Right now it takes 170,000 frequent flier miles from LAS to BKK on coach, and 310,000 for business class. They're sure proud of those miles!!!
[QUOTE=David 2]Right now it takes 170,000 frequent flier miles from LAS to BKK on coach, and 310,000 for business class. They're sure proud of those miles!!![/QUOTE]
David 2
The problem is Delta miles are damn near worthless. When they merged with NWA I had 100,000 miles I could not use due to Delta's ridicules mileage reward requirements.
Fortunately by planning ahead I was able to burn them flying LAX-LED on Air France Biz class. Not that I mind an RU trip anyway.
The key is to plan early, and never fly a USA airline. IMHO
Guido88
[QUOTE=Guido88]David 2
The problem is Delta miles are damn near worthless. When they merged with NWA I had 100,000 miles I could not use due to Delta's ridicules mileage reward requirements.
Fortunately by planning ahead I was able to burn them flying LAX-LED on Air France Biz class. Not that I mind an RU trip anyway.
The key is to plan early, and never fly a USA airline. IMHO
Guido88[/QUOTE]
Maybe they're worthless to use on Delta, but in the past, I have had no problem using my Delta Miles on KAL for a trip from LAX to BKK through Incheon
[QUOTE=Member #2041]Maybe they're worthless to use on Delta, but in the past, I have had no problem using my Delta Miles on KAL for a trip from LAX to BKK through Incheon[/QUOTE]
Exactly my point.
Curious, what was the class & mileage required.
Guido88
My first trip to Thailand was in 1978. It was then I witness a beautiful woman, named Tip, launch bananas across the stage and open a soda bottle with her snatch. You know, pure entertainment! Pattaya also had quite a bit going on.
In late 2001, the raunchy stuff still existed. In Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy, there were several sex shows. Real sex shows, not the "touch my nipples" show. And in Pattaya, I was able to see ping pong balls and razors flying coming out of snatches.
I went back in 2002 only to discover all the raunchy shows were gone. I think the government was trying to clean up some of the fun stuff. My last trip was in 2004. Still no great shows.
Lately, I've been traveling to Central and South America the last few years just to try other chicas. And yes, they are hot, but I do miss the Thai girls.
So back to my question, have the raunchy shows returned?
Couple of questions guys, Doing a 2 month trip to pattaya from 1st July.
What are the rules around mopeds/motorbikes for uk travellers? Do I need an international drivers licence? A motorbike licence? Or nothing? And like uk, does that change with the size of bike?
Got an iPad and netbook and want mobile wifi. Everywhere I go in pattaya seems to have loads of wifi connections, 7/11s etc. How does that work? Is it a prepaid thing you buy in a 7/11 or Internet and which ones are best in pattaya for coverage?
Thanks folks
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Couple of questions guys, Doing a 2 month trip to pattaya from 1st July.
What are the rules around mopeds/motorbikes for uk travellers? Do I need an international drivers licence? A motorbike licence? Or nothing? And like uk, does that change with the size of bike?
Got an iPad and netbook and want mobile wifi. Everywhere I go in pattaya seems to have loads of wifi connections, 7/11s etc. How does that work? Is it a prepaid thing you buy in a 7/11 or Internet and which ones are best in pattaya for coverage?
Thanks folks
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]
If you have a bike licence in the UK then get an international drivers licence.
One thing though is most travel insurers will only cover you up to 125cc for medical cover and only if you have a bike licence.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin]My first trip to Thailand was in 1978. It was then I witness a beautiful woman, named Tip, launch bananas across the stage and open a soda bottle with her snatch. You know, pure entertainment! Pattaya also had quite a bit going on.
In late 2001, the raunchy stuff still existed. In Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy, there were several sex shows. Real sex shows, not the "touch my nipples" show. And in Pattaya, I was able to see ping pong balls and razors flying coming out of snatches.
I went back in 2002 only to discover all the raunchy shows were gone. I think the government was trying to clean up some of the fun stuff. My last trip was in 2004. Still no great shows.
Lately, I've been traveling to Central and South America the last few years just to try other chicas. And yes, they are hot, but I do miss the Thai girls.
So back to my question, have the raunchy shows returned?[/QUOTE]
3 years ago I saw a show at Long Gun in Soi Cow boy
Any know the status on the airport rail link to the airport, it been delay for over 2 yr now it is open aready will be in Bangkok end of the month.
Fast Eddie 48
The last time I was in Bangkok, I bought a SIM card (DTAC) for my phone to use it in Thailand. I added time by buying prepaid cards. I haven't used that SIM for 8 months now. I will be returning to Bangkok next week and taking the phone (with the SIM) with me. How soon can I use it after landing at the Airport (next week)?
[QUOTE=Tomjackin]My first trip to Thailand was in 1978. It was then I witness a beautiful woman, named Tip, launch bananas across the stage and open a soda bottle with her snatch. You know, pure entertainment! Pattaya also had quite a bit going on.
In late 2001, the raunchy stuff still existed. In Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy, there were several sex shows. Real sex shows, not the "touch my nipples" show. And in Pattaya, I was able to see ping pong balls and razors flying coming out of snatches.
I went back in 2002 only to discover all the raunchy shows were gone. I think the government was trying to clean up some of the fun stuff. My last trip was in 2004. Still no great shows.
Lately, I've been traveling to Central and South America the last few years just to try other chicas. And yes, they are hot, but I do miss the Thai girls.
So back to my question, have the raunchy shows returned?[/QUOTE]
Go to Patpong. The shows are still going strong there.
depends on how long the SIM card was set up as "good" - some are good for a YEAR, others only 90 days. IF it's valid, just buy some more time at the 7-11 and use it at Swampy if you want to. (or use what you have - it's still good usually if the card is good)
[QUOTE=Ny Desiman]The last time I was in Bangkok, I bought a SIM card (DTAC) for my phone to use it in Thailand. I added time by buying prepaid cards. I haven't used that SIM for 8 months now. I will be returning to Bangkok next week and taking the phone (with the SIM) with me. How soon can I use it after landing at the Airport (next week)?[/QUOTE]
each card and each rovieder has its own rules.
Sometime if you top it by a high amount you keep it valid for one year, a mid amount by 6 months...
You really need the conditions when you bought it.
If still valid, it will work as soon as you activate it on arrival.
[QUOTE=Ny Desiman]The last time I was in Bangkok, I bought a SIM card (DTAC) for my phone to use it in Thailand. I added time by buying prepaid cards. I haven't used that SIM for 8 months now. I will be returning to Bangkok next week and taking the phone (with the SIM) with me. How soon can I use it after landing at the Airport (next week)?[/QUOTE]
there is a DTAC booth / kiosk after customs, I believe at door 3 or 6. It is quite possible they can reactivate if needed.
Thank you for your input.
Any particular club?
[QUOTE=Drogue]Go to Patpong. The shows are still going strong there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tomjackin]Thank you for your input.
Any particular club?[/QUOTE]
TJ
Try the Long Gun in Soi Cowboy. Last visit they had a banana show, lesbian show, razor blades, needles, and a quite interesting dart balloon show.
Watch where you sit during the dart show, needled tipped darts fly from the snatch to balloons 7 or 8 feet above.
Hate to get blinded by a misguided pussy dart.
Sounds somewhat disgusting but still entertaining in a perverted sort of way.
Patpong had shows also but was pretty grungy compared with Cowboy. Plus the Longun girls were far better looking.
Just my .o2
Guido88
Thank you for the info Guido. I watched a show at the Long Gun in 2002 and it was one of the hottest shows I have ever witness. The Carousel in Nana Plaza also had an extremely hot show, but in 2004, there was a solid attempt to clean the shows up. Also in 2002, the Clinton (Bill) Plaza had some decent shows.
"Hate to get blinded by a misguided pussy dart."
Thanks for the warning. It would be hard to explain that to my grandchildren, if I ever have any in the future.
Usually I only stay in Bangkok for a day or two, before heading to Pattaya for the rest of the trip. This might be my last trip, because the flight is soooo damn long. So I plan to explore Bangkok more than I have done in the past. No, not the floating market or temples...but the dark side, which I like more than I should.
Thanks again, TJ
[QUOTE=Guido88]TJ,
Try the Long Gun in Soi Cowboy. Last visit they had a banana show, lesbian show, razor blades, needles, and a quite interesting dart balloon show.
Watch where you sit during the dart show, needled tipped darts fly from the snatch to balloons 7 or 8 feet above.
Hate to get blinded by a misguided pussy dart.
Sounds somewhat disgusting but still entertaining in a perverted sort of way.
Patpong had shows also but was pretty grungy compared with Cowboy. Plus the Longun girls were far better looking.
Just my .o2
Guido88[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Any know the status on the airport rail link to the airport[/QUOTE]
It is open for trials, 7am-10am & 4pm-7pm. Free ticket, go to either Ramhkamhaeng, Phaya Thai BTS or Pratunam. Main station that connects to MRT (Makkasan) is not open yet. If you're bound for Sukhumwit, connect to BTS at Phaya Thai (last station).
If you're lucky enough to arrive at those times, go down to the lowest level of the airport (one below where the public taxis are). FYI, immigration queues have also improved, I waited just 5 minutes last time (as opposed to usual 40).
whats a good bar on Soi Cowboy for a girl-girl show ?
Pussy eating and double dildo type ?
and what times ?
I want to take a regular TG to one since she seems interested and it might lead to some more fun :)
Guys,
I could do with a new laptop for my trip to Pattaya next week. Should I buy it in uk now or will I get a better deal for same spec in Bangkok or pattaya?
Thanks
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Guys,
I could do with a new laptop for my trip to Pattaya next week. Should I buy it in uk now or will I get a better deal for same spec in Bangkok or pattaya?
Thanks
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]
I do not know about the UK prices, but the prices in LOS are about 20-30% higher than the US prices. You also have to consider after sales service should you need it.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Guys,
I could do with a new laptop for my trip to Pattaya next week. Should I buy it in uk now or will I get a better deal for same spec in Bangkok or pattaya?
Thanks,
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]You do better in getting at home.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp]It is open for trials, 7am-10am & 4pm-7pm. Free ticket, go to either Ramhkamhaeng, Phaya Thai BTS or Pratunam. Main station that connects to MRT (Makkasan) is not open yet. If you're bound for Sukhumwit, connect to BTS at Phaya Thai (last station).
If you're lucky enough to arrive at those times, go down to the lowest level of the airport (one below where the public taxis are). FYI, immigration queues have also improved, I waited just 5 minutes last time (as opposed to usual 40).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the good info!
Does anyone have any information regarding travel time between Phaya Thai and Swampy and what the fare might be. I checked the BTS website, and unsurprisingly, they have not updated their fare/travel time widget.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: Found a reference on Wiki that says the express travel time from the airport to Makkasan (MRT) will be 15 minutes and the local to Phaya Thai will be 27 minutes, I don't know if that is correct, but it would be nice. Nothing on fares.
This is a question to the ones who ever got Thai girls from a website to bed.
Might be quite a dumb one, but I just want to get your opinions, thoughts and maybe some useful tips:
-what do you talk about with girls who you meet online and plan to have some bed fun later once you're in LOS, just so they have idea that you're up to some fun and spending a good time together, and not serious brain-screwing relationshiops/friendship? How do you meet in reality and proceed later to your hotel room? How do you end those "relationships" so they don't get disappointed etc? And how do you tell the difference between those who are really "just looking for friends" and the ones who are up to something more?
I've been to Thailand only one time, and only had friendship type of online girls. However, in bars/clubs I sometimes got normal girls (only a few though) who didn't mind coming with me to my place after just a couple of hours partying together. I'm in my 20s and guess girls are up to some not-(openly)-commercial fun with young farangs,. But I'd like to improve my online-hunting skills to "line up dates" as they often say here before I ever come back to our beloved land of smiles, so any advice from you guys would be greatly appreciated!
Also, I might be going again to Thailand in July, still deciding, so the ones who are there now, or have been around this time, what would you say about weather conditions? does the rain really make the season "slow"? BTW, seems like the Hua Hin area is drier than BKK and Pattaya.
Any comment on that?
Thanks to everyone here for usefull info!
well john - buying a computer in Thailand is sure to cost more than a lot of other places. Maybe try "mail order". Thai prices for SODIMM seems about 20% higher as well
at least the poo-ying are "reasonable" :)
alXXX - "slow" is relative - would YOU want to be there for intermittent gushing downpours (RAIN, of course...)? Business drops off significantly. July/Aug/ Sept seem to be verrrry wet
I saw somewhere 15-45 Baht for the local, 150 Baht for the express.
But don't quote me on it.
[QUOTE=Booey]Thanks for the good info!
Does anyone have any information regarding travel time between Phaya Thai and Swampy and what the fare might be. I checked the BTS website, and unsurprisingly, they have not updated their fare/travel time widget.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: Found a reference on Wiki that says the express travel time from the airport to Makkasan (MRT) will be 15 minutes and the local to Phaya Thai will be 27 minutes, I don't know if that is correct, but it would be nice. Nothing on fares.[/QUOTE]
Aeon bank is the only one now not charging the 150baht fee.
Given some peoples concerns for hardware problems (never had a problem myself) I suggest that you go to an ATM at a bank branch and use it during working hours, so that should there be any problem you can walk inside with the receipt for any problems.
But I say again, I have never had a problem, and no 150baht fee.
For all those that say its not "worth the hassle". Thai's have always scammed foreigners on the basis that "always more stupid ones coming along to replace the others already ripped off".
Why pay 150 baht for nothing to the Thai banks. They are scamming you. And if you let them then well, you are a walking ATM for Thai bankers. LOL
And here is a list of Aeon ATM locations in Bangkok.
[url]http://www.aeonthailand.com/lang/en/menu/Service_Location/region/Bangkok#soutput[/url]
[QUOTE=The Pro]Aeon bank is the only one now not charging the 150baht fee.
Given some peoples concerns for hardware problems (never had a problem myself) I suggest that you go to an ATM at a bank branch and use it during working hours, so that should there be any problem you can walk inside with the receipt for any problems.
But I say again, I have never had a problem, and no 150baht fee.
For all those that say its not "worth the hassle". Thai's have always scammed foreigners on the basis that "always more stupid ones coming along to replace the others already ripped off".
Why pay 150 baht for nothing to the Thai banks. They are s. camming you. And if you let them then well, you are a walking ATM for Thai bankers. LOL[/QUOTE]
Pro,
Just a clarification! Not always the case using ATM's at Branches, First you will only get a receipt if you get a transaction in my case a clock kept on spinning and gave me a response after a few minutes that the Transaction requested couldn't be process. I was at the Branch and the attendant saw exactly what happen. But the branch can't do anything for you regarding such a transaction. They will put you on the phone with someone, somewhere? But the Branch will not be able to help you!
Like I said this has happen only in Pattaya, I have gone into Bangkok ( using the website you listed ) went around to the branches,nothing! All try to put me on the phone just like Pattaya, I research Aeon and notice they had Corporate offices on the corner of Sukhumvit and Asoke, the highrise across from Soi Cowboy, went to the 25-26-27 floor same result, spoke on the phone, no results, no one would come out and who knows who I was talking to or where?
If you know a place I can speak to someone in person that has the power to resolve my problem right there and then so I can show them the documentation that I never received the money I surely would like to know but everywhere I have gone they try to put me on the phone. It is not like in the U.S. banking system you can go into any branch and it would be taken care of but in Thailand hell no and no way!
Good luck to those that they don't get burn because like the Pro said we are all walking breathing ATM's as soon as you get off the airplane!
LBM
I am interested in starting an AMP and have found a small group of interested partners to chip-in with start-up capital. How do I recruit girls from Thailand and other such places without running into the whole [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] mess. Or is it something I should better set-up through a syndicate (which in that case I may as well drop the idea)?
I have not meet many thai girls in the US but anyone who can give me a tip or info please PM or post.
[QUOTE=Mushamisi]I am interested in starting an AMP and have found a small group of interested partners to chip-in with start-up capital. How do I recruit girls from Thailand and other such places without running into the whole [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] mess. Or is it something I should better set-up through a syndicate (which in that case I may as well drop the idea)?
I have not meet many thai girls in the US but anyone who can give me a tip or info please PM or post.[/QUOTE]
Recruiting them is easy, getting them pass U.S Immigration would be quite a feat but even if could pull that impossibility off, how would you get them to stay in your AMP toiling away to make you and your partners rich? As soon as they touched down in the states and located a compass you and your partners would be blowing your customers yourself, unless of course you resorted to those same [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] techniques.
[QUOTE=Mushamisi]I am interested in starting an AMP and have found a small group of interested partners to chip-in with start-up capital. How do I recruit girls from Thailand and other such places without running into the whole [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] mess. Or is it something I should better set-up through a syndicate (which in that case I may as well drop the idea)?
I have not meet many thai girls in the US but anyone who can give me a tip or info please PM or post.[/QUOTE]
If I were you...I would really stay away from such a project, but then...each one his own.
I heard that even bringing a legitimate girlfriend in the USA is a big challenge.
Go imagine what can be with future ML's in not much legitimate activities.
You might even be challenged also by non-LE teams.
Anyhow the thai girls say.."up to you" (and dont forget "shower first", after having been at 7-11)
LOL
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Pro,
Just a clarification! Not always the case using ATM's at Branches, First you will only get a receipt if you get a transaction in my case a clock kept on spinning and gave me a response after a few minutes that the Transaction requested couldn't be process. I was at the Branch and the attendant saw exactly what happen. But the branch can't do anything for you regarding such a transaction. They will put you on the phone with someone, somewhere? But the Branch will not be able to help you![/QUOTE]I'm unless unlucky. The ATM screw-up happened 3 times to me in the past 2 years (none the previous 20 years). My bank rep said that is unusual, but it sometimes occurs.
This is what is happening. When you enter your PIN, the info goes to the VISA network and it gets approved. The approval comes back, but due to a malfunction in the ATM, it won't be able to process the transaction.
Citi Bank (Western Bank) in Angeles immediately credited my account. But the local banks in Phnom Penh and Costa Rica did not. They took money out of my account.
Hence you have to call your ATM bank and dispute the charges. They will get VISA to do an audit on that ATM. In both cases I got the refund. I don't think talking to the low level local employee will help.
Note 1: The Thailand banks started to charge the 150 Baht fee couple of years ago. Previously, the ATM would give you Thai Baht at the buy rate (the lower end of the buy/sell spectrum) and not charge the 150 Baht fee. But now, the ATM gives you the Thai Baht at the Visa rate (between the buy and sell rate) with a 150 Baht fee. Hence if you take a lot of money out at one time, the overall rate is similar.
Note 2: If you want to avoid the 150 Baht ATM fee, get a Charles Schwab ATM card. That bank will refund the ATM fee, and it also does not charge the 3% Foreign Transaction Fee. Best ATM card around.
[QUOTE=Alxxx]This is a question to the ones who ever got Thai girls from a website to bed. Might be quite a dumb one, but I just want to get your opinions, thoughts and maybe some useful tips:
-what do you talk about with girls who you meet online and plan to have some bed fun later once you're in LOS, just so they have idea that you're up to some fun and spending a good time together, and not serious brain-screwing relationshiops/friendship? How do you meet in reality and proceed later to your hotel room? How do you end those "relationships" so they don't get disappointed etc? And how do you tell the difference between those who are really "just looking for friends" and the ones who are up to something more?
I've been to Thailand only one time, and only had friendship type of online girls. However, in bars/clubs I sometimes got normal girls (only a few though) who didn't mind coming with me to my place after just a couple of hours partying together. [/QUOTE]Dude you are trying too hard. If you are trying to meet a non-pro just to use her then why waste her or your time and emotions? It is really despicable to play with someones feelings like that. If you are that pressed to get someone into bed why not just get a working girl? That is what they are there for.
I have met about 10 girls from TLL since I have been going to Thailand. I have had relations with all but 1. The one I didn't was a bartender on the Artist Soi in BKK. One was a hairstylist semi-pro in BKK, who asked me for money when I wanted to see her a second time. I expect another hairstylist in Pattaya was a semi-pro because she said that a guy from Texas used to take care of her. The others were just girls with regular jobs: hairstylist, teacher, factory manager, travel agent, internet shop worker, real estate agent. I'm still friends with a couple of them. The rest just withered away.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Dude you are trying too hard. If you are trying to meet a non-pro just to use her then why waste her or your time and emotions? It is really despicable to play with someones feelings like that. If you are that pressed to get someone into bed why not just get a working girl? That is what they are there for.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply to my post Mr Enternational,
Well, I surelly didn't mean that I want to play with someone's feeling, that's why I asked how you usually clearly point out that this is just for some fun when you're on quite a short trip to LOS, however I don't want to sound like some guys who write something like "ladies who wants my 9 inch dick bla bla bla", and spam their profiles/message boxes with perverted stupid messages. Just banging girls as a physical act is not that fun for me, I'm always looking for some chemistry, but I don't have time for LTR. That's why it makes beer bar/go-go scene not so great for me, and of course message parlours type of thing. Moreover, as I think most of you guys would agree, P4P girls in Thailand tend to be way less attractive as the "normal" girls you can see in the streets, shops, reception desks etc.
Actually as I look at my previous message I do agree that it looks like I'm "trying too hard". This is a good point actually, Mr! Thai normal girls seems to be easily asked out to a meal or something online. And from that point you can see where it takes you. Actually spending time at some restaurant with a decent Asian girl is great by itself.
[QUOTE=The Pro]Aeon bank is the only one now not charging the 150baht fee.
[/QUOTE]
I did a no fee transaction today at Citibank near Soi Cowboy - Suk 21
[QUOTE=GreenBud]I'm unless unlucky. The ATM screw-up happened 3 times to me in the past 2 years (none the previous 20 years). My bank rep said that is unusual, but it sometimes occurs.
This is what is happening. When you enter your PIN, the info goes to the VISA network and it gets approved. The approval comes back, but due to a malfunction in the ATM, it won't be able to process the transaction.
Citi Bank (Western Bank) in Angeles immediately credited my account. But the local banks in Phnom Penh and Costa Rica did not. They took money out of my account.
Hence you have to call your ATM bank and dispute the charges. They will get VISA to do an audit on that ATM. In both cases I got the refund. I don't think talking to the low level local employee will help.
Note 1: The Thailand banks started to charge the 150 Baht fee couple of years ago. Previously, the ATM would give you Thai Baht at the buy rate (the lower end of the buy/sell spectrum) and not charge the 150 Baht fee. But now, the ATM gives you the Thai Baht at the Visa rate (between the buy and sell rate) with a 150 Baht fee. Hence if you take a lot of money out at one time, the overall rate is similar.
Note 2: If you want to avoid the 150 Baht ATM fee, get a Charles Schwab ATM card. That bank will refund the ATM fee, and it also does not charge the 3% Foreign Transaction Fee. Best ATM card around.[/QUOTE]
The procedure outline by you is correct! The big difference is when I disputed the transaction with my bank, the amount disputed was place back into my account while the dispute was pending with Aeon and Visa requesting a audit with Aeon. Now one would assume this is all done by wire communication by Visa and Aeon. After several weeks the results was Aeon came back to Visa and through wire communication and told my bank that the transaction being disputed was a " valid " transaction meaning I was given by the ATM and there was no problem. This was basically telling me in a nice way I was a crook and a scammer. And remove the amount out of my account again. There after there is nothing more a U.S. institution can do on foreign soil to retreive my money.
So this was why when back in Thailand I continue to pursue the issue with Aeion Bank, but have been unable to speak to someone in person of authority to resolve the issue. In their research to me they have told me over the phone that
A. We gave you the money
B. We have photo's of the transaction
C. We have no record of any transaction on that particular day therefore no photos
C. Then final answer, we authorized the return transaction back to your bank account which is all untrue.
So in the end not as lucky as you!
LBM
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]I did a no fee transaction today at Citibank near Soi Cowboy - Suk 21[/QUOTE]If you have a citibank card you can just go to citiibank and withdraw any amount at no charge. Main branch is on Sathorn.
ATM should always give the the "TT" rate.
If you are not getting the "TT" rate then you should change your bank in your home country.
[QUOTE=GreenBud]Note 1: The Thailand banks started to charge the 150 Baht fee couple of years ago. Previously, the ATM would give you Thai Baht at the buy rate (the lower end of the buy/sell spectrum) and not charge the 150 Baht fee. But now, the ATM gives you the Thai Baht at the Visa rate (between the buy and sell rate) with a 150 Baht fee. Hence if you take a lot of money out at one time, the overall rate is similar.[/QUOTE]
As a non-smoker I don't know much other than Airport has no duty free Malboros.
Can anyone suggest which other brand is available at Suwanaphum Airport that would be similar to Malboro Red?
e.g. Dunhill, Camel, etc.
I have no clue.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]If I were you...I would really stay away from such a project, but then...each one his own.
I heard that even bringing a legitimate girlfriend in the USA is a big challenge.
Go imagine what can be with future ML's in not much legitimate activities.
You might even be challenged also by non-LE teams.
Anyhow the thai girls say.."up to you" (and dont forget "shower first", after having been at 7-11)
LOL[/QUOTE]
Thanks Bionicman and Ran Mann
You both make very legitimate points when it comes to the recruiting and the problem of getting them to stay.
That said I will try and recruit illegals that are already here and looking for work that way if the stay the stay if they go they go and I haven't thrown in too much on the front end. I now just have to find were those communities tend to gather here in states and circulate info that way.
[QUOTE=Mushamisi]I am interested in starting an AMP and have found a small group of interested partners to chip-in with start-up capital. How do I recruit girls from Thailand and other such places without running into the whole [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] mess. Or is it something I should better set-up through a syndicate (which in that case I may as well drop the idea)?
I have not meet many thai girls in the US but anyone who can give me a tip or info please PM or post.[/QUOTE]Seeing that you are posting this stuff on various threads, how about the suggestion you go to Isreal where you can see / learn firsthand for yourself how this kind of 'business' works.
I was in TH a few years ago and bought some Apcalis (just for fun, or what other reason is there?). I tried Viagra before, but have to say Apcalis is quite a bit better and works for a few days.
Is Apcalis still available in TH? How much is it for the 4-pack?
I am often in China, you get also all sort of stuff there, however, I don't trust them a bit and don't want to risk my health for a test.
[QUOTE=Mushamisi]I am interested in starting an AMP and have found a small group of interested partners to chip-in with start-up capital. How do I recruit girls from Thailand and other such places without running into the whole [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] mess. Or is it something I should better set-up through a syndicate (which in that case I may as well drop the idea)?
I have not meet many thai girls in the US but anyone who can give me a tip or info please PM or post.[/QUOTE]
Mushamisi,
First of all, remember this carefully! " If you can't do the time don't do the crime "
Second as mentioned, when it comes to reruiting in Thailand and bringing them to the USA, regarding Thailand this is exactly what the Embassy is looking for!
Third, if you plan on Cities like S.F. L.A. N.Y. and you're not connected the Mafia, Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese will churn and spit your out before you even open your doors. In S.F. now they all have to be trained and certified and pay a fee each year to the City, the Building inspectors are allow to inspect all new facilities, rooms being built with showers in each room are a tip off and permits are refused based on design. Fine are imposed on building owners renting out such business if caught. The list goes on and on so now many are trying to run them out of Homes, Condos, Apartment and are still having problems with L.E.! because of Neighborhood watch.
If you plan on doing out of Cities like L.V. or the Midwest you stand out like a sore thumb so really think twice because if you're not connected and just think this is something that might be fun to run and own and be able to sample all the candy I say once again " if you can't do the time and pay the fine don't do the crime " in the last few years all the popular places owners in S.F. and surrounding Counties are all behind Bars.
Last, if this is something you can't seem to gasped and got to do it because you got the money to blow then think about buying a existing one this way you don't have to deal with all the current and new regulations and ordinances!
LBM
[QUOTE=DayNight]I was in TH a few years ago and bought some Apcalis (just for fun, or what other reason is there?). I tried Viagra before, but have to say Apcalis is quite a bit better and works for a few days.
Is Apcalis still available in TH? How much is it for the 4-pack?
I am often in China, you get also all sort of stuff there, however, I don't trust them a bit and don't want to risk my health for a test.[/QUOTE]DayNight:
Was in Pattaya in May this year, and I had to pay 600tb/4 pills at the drogstore.
Goteborg
Last time I was in Cambodia, I tried to get more Apsalis and was told that the factory didn't exist any longer. It worked quite well - but beware of the Chinese copy of ANYTHING. I may have been compressed talc for all the good it did. Chinese packaged "blue devils" (supposedly copy of V) was ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS. Most of the supply in Thailand is direct import from India (but with India buying into the world trade something or other, they might start abiding with the "patents" on drugs. Chinese CIALIS copy was also pretty much worthless (I was told it was Chinese and should have trusted my better judgment)
[QUOTE=DayNight]I was in TH a few years ago and bought some Apcalis (just for fun, or what other reason is there?). I tried Viagra before, but have to say Apcalis is quite a bit better and works for a few days.
Is Apcalis still available in TH? How much is it for the 4-pack?
I am often in China, you get also all sort of stuff there, however, I don't trust them a bit and don't want to risk my health for a test.[/QUOTE]walk into any pharmacy and ask for Cialis copy from India, if not wrong there is one called Tadalis or something. Cost per 4-pax was baht800 at Soi 11 Suk pharmacy. ask for copy from India if not they give you the real stuff. Never take anything from China.
[QUOTE=Mushamisi]Thanks Bionicman and Ran Mann
You both make very legitimate points when it comes to the recruiting and the problem of getting them to stay.
That said I will try and recruit illegals that are already here and looking for work that way if the stay the stay if they go they go and I haven't thrown in too much on the front end. I now just have to find were those communities tend to gather here in states and circulate info that way.[/QUOTE]Man, don't do this. Please.
101 reasons why not, but put simply in most countries the organised sex trade is a pretty vile business with some seriously unpleasant people involved. You may start off as a saint but before long you won't be.
Do what the rest of us do, and simply enjoy the less seamy side.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Last time I was in Cambodia, I tried to get more Apsalis and was told that the factory didn't exist any longer. It worked quite well - but beware of the Chinese copy of ANYTHING. I may have been compressed talc for all the good it did. Chinese packaged "blue devils" (supposedly copy of V) was ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS. Most of the supply in Thailand is direct import from India (but with India buying into the world trade something or other, they might start abiding with the "patents" on drugs. Chinese CIALIS copy was also pretty much worthless (I was told it was Chinese and should have trusted my better judgment)[/QUOTE]And on a similar theme, don't ever buy the stuff in the street. You know it is worthless.
I spoke to one guy who was selling 'Viagra' in a packet with a Pfizer holographic logo on it. He agreed it was fake. But why go to all the expense of faking a Pfizer hologram, which guarantees the stuff inside (when sold at a fraction of the retail cost) is fake? That hologram probably cost more to manufacture than the talc inside the packet.
If you buy stuff from a pharmacy made in India by a reputable company (eg Ranbaxy) there is a much better chance of it being real.
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Man, don't do this. Please.
101 reasons why not, but put simply in most countries the organised sex trade is a pretty vile business with some seriously unpleasant people involved. You may start off as a saint but before long you won't be.
Do what the rest of us do, and simply enjoy the less seamy side.[/QUOTE]
well said
and I what I tried to say in between the lines, and the guy doesn't seem to get, is that his posts here could all of a sudden stop, beyond is own will....
Wi-Fi doesnt work 6feet below ground level....or inside a concrete pillar.
Got me?
[QUOTE=Mushamisi]Thanks Bionicman and Ran Mann
You both make very legitimate points when it comes to the recruiting and the problem of getting them to stay.
That said I will try and recruit illegals that are already here and looking for work that way if the stay the stay if they go they go and I haven't thrown in too much on the front end. I now just have to find were those communities tend to gather here in states and circulate info that way.[/QUOTE]
Reading it through once more, I was aksing myself:
"one wants to set a business in the sex trade and he is asking suggestions to a bunch of mongerers ?"
Just like a brand new beer entgering the market gets in contact with Anonymous Alchoolist to get a feeling of the trade and how to shape the bottle.
LMAO
Then, another thought came to my mind.
Is this *idiot* (under that thought I could describe him so) a rep of LE trying to bust other idiiots on sex trade and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]? LOL
Poor and silly attempt if so.
I think it is well proven by the thousands of posts
We might be a bunch of horny guys (what can we do? hormones lead..:) and spending fortunes in paying consenting girls (to be paid), but certainly we stay away from certain forms of crimes!
We even, indipendently, warn other guys, to stay out of that.
Re-do your investigation strategy if that was the case.
If not....
Re-do your strategy anyhow as that project is nonsense to say the least.
[QUOTE=DayNight]I was in TH a few years ago and bought some Apcalis (just for fun, or what other reason is there?). I tried Viagra before, but have to say Apcalis is quite a bit better and works for a few days.
Is Apcalis still available in TH? How much is it for the 4-pack?
I am often in China, you get also all sort of stuff there, however, I don't trust them a bit and don't want to risk my health for a test.[/QUOTE]I just bought Apcalis two days ago 3 doors down from the 7-11 corner of soi 4 and Sukhumvit. 400 baht pack of 4.
Good stuff! No headache no flush feeling. When mongering I bite off about a third of a tablet every morning. Like being 16 again.
Yes, 400Baht for a pack of 4 tablets.
[QUOTE=DayNight]I was in TH a few years ago and bought some Apcalis (just for fun, or what other reason is there?). I tried Viagra before, but have to say Apcalis is quite a bit better and works for a few days.
Is Apcalis still available in TH? How much is it for the 4-pack?
I am often in China, you get also all sort of stuff there, however, I don't trust them a bit and don't want to risk my health for a test.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]
TThe list goes on and on so now many are trying to run them out of Homes, Condos, Apartment and are still having problems with L.E.! because of Neighborhood watch.
[/QUOTE]
I've frequented many of these thai massage places run out of condos/apartments and its amazing how fast they catch on. They know they can get away with charging high prices while giving shitty service once in the USA. Usually(not always), it involves no GFE, covered BJ's, no kissin, no nuttin, just a mechanical experience, especially if she's good looking. Heck she doesn't have to even be real good looking to give such abysmal service.
[QUOTE=Mushamisi]I am interested in starting an AMP and have found a small group of interested partners to chip-in with start-up capital. How do I recruit girls from Thailand and other such places without running into the whole [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] mess. Or is it something I should better set-up through a syndicate (which in that case I may as well drop the idea)?
I have not meet many thai girls in the US but anyone who can give me a tip or info please PM or post.[/QUOTE]
Mushamisi
Your posts regarding this topic are inappropriate in the TJ and the Asia forums where you asked these same questions.
I see 3 important points you should consider.
1. You are attempting to engage others in what the FEDS could clearly construe as Conspiracy to break any # of laws. This could potentially could affect both ISG and other posters should they give you advice that leads towards your goals.
2. Fortunately in both the TJ & Asia forums you were politely told you are out of your mind.....
3. If you persist in such fantasies, keep them too your self. Do not involve ISG or anyone else.
Guido88
Good luck and let us know how you are progressing. And, being the International SEX Giude, even if you end up in prison, please post your sexual experiences from there, as best you can, as this would indeed be the most interesting part of the story...
[QUOTE=Mushamisi]Thanks Bionicman and Ran Mann
You both make very legitimate points when it comes to the recruiting and the problem of getting them to stay.
That said I will try and recruit illegals that are already here and looking for work that way if the stay the stay if they go they go and I haven't thrown in too much on the front end. I now just have to find were those communities tend to gather here in states and circulate info that way.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]if you end up in prison, please post your sexual experiences from there, as best you can, as this would indeed be the most interesting part of the story...[/QUOTE]
THAT WAS HILARIOUS !!!
Thanks for the feedback. I travel a lot in China and will NOT touch that Chinese stuff.
Anybody here that can help me get 2 packs or so and mail them to Hong Kong? I got Paypal. Send me a PM if you can help.
[QUOTE=Jutju]I just bought Apcalis two days ago 3 doors down from the 7-11 corner of soi 4 and Sukhumvit. 400 baht pack of 4.
Good stuff! No headache no flush feeling. When mongering I bite off about a third of a tablet every morning. Like being 16 again.[/QUOTE]Damn got con. I'll check out the pharmacy on soi4/nana and the name is Apcalis. Friend who used says it didn't give him any side effects. I'll try it next time too. I get Kamagra at Baht300 for pack of 4(fyi)
[QUOTE=Acerboy]Damn got con. I'll check out the pharmacy on soi4/nana and the name is Apcalis. Friend who used says it didn't give him any side effects. I'll try it next time too. I get Kamagra at Baht300 for pack of 4(fyi)[/QUOTE]
I use and recommend Apcalis too.
I keep saying I will not return to LOS, but somehow the urge hits me quite hard and next thing you know I'm booking my flight. When I was stationed in PI and Japan, it was quite easy to get back and forth to LOS. But now, the long flight kick my ass.
I have not been since 2004, so I'm asking this experienced board to assist in my last trip (maybe). Hopefully not much has changed. After reading the boards for endless hours, I have my list of old favorites, plus some new ideas from the boards. Please add any other gems to the list, or, feel free to tell me what you might delete from the list.
Bangkok (3 days):
Massage: Annies - Daily
Nana Plaza: Carousal + other small favorites
Soi Cowboy: Lucky Star, Baccara, Tilac, & Suzie Wong
Eden Club
Explore Patpong (for the first time)
Pattaya (8 days):
Devil's Den
The Cavern
FLB - old favorite
Kitten Club
Baccara
Happy
Beach Club
Hell Club
Club Boesche
Illusions
Hot & Cold
Explore Soi 6
Thank you! I promise to report back on all the action.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin]I keep saying I will not return to LOS, but somehow the urge hits me quite hard and next thing you know I'm booking my flight. When I was stationed in PI and Japan, it was quite easy to get back and forth to LOS. But now, the long flight kick my ass.
I have not been since 2004, so I'm asking this experienced board to assist in my last trip (maybe). Hopefully not much has changed. After reading the boards for endless hours, I have my list of old favorites, plus some new ideas from the boards. Please add any other gems to the list, or, feel free to tell me what you might delete from the list.
Bangkok (3 days):
Massage: Annies - Daily
Nana Plaza: Carousal + other small favorites
Soi Cowboy: Lucky Star, Baccara, Tilac, & Suzie Wong
Eden Club
Explore Patpong (for the first time)
Pattaya (8 days):
Devil's Den
The Cavern
FLB - old favorite
Kitten Club
Baccara
Happy
Beach Club
Hell Club
Club Boesche
Illusions
Hot & Cold
Explore Soi 6
Thank you! I promise to report back on all the action.[/QUOTE]Devil's Den is the new name for the Hell Club. I think DD is much better than the Eden Club, so wouldn't bother with the latter.
I wouldn't bother with Patpong (perhaps one evening as a tourist). Otherwise it's all personal preferences - I just go with the flow... :)
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Good luck and let us know how you are progressing. And, being the International SEX Giude, even if you end up in prison, please post your sexual experiences from there, as best you can, as this would indeed be the most interesting part of the story...[/QUOTE]
....it will have to go under the "freebies" not as P4P! :)
[QUOTE=Tomjackin]I keep saying I will not return to LOS, but somehow the urge hits me quite hard and next thing you know I'm booking my flight. When I was stationed in PI and Japan, it was quite easy to get back and forth to LOS. But now, the long flight kick my ass.
I have not been since 2004, so I'm asking this experienced board to assist in my last trip (maybe). Hopefully not much has changed. After reading the boards for endless hours, I have my list of old favorites, plus some new ideas from the boards. Please add any other gems to the list, or, feel free to tell me what you might delete from the list.
Bangkok (3 days):
Massage: Annies - Daily
Nana Plaza: Carousal + other small favorites
Soi Cowboy: Lucky Star, Baccara, Tilac, & Suzie Wong
Eden Club
Explore Patpong (for the first time)
Pattaya (8 days):
Devil's Den
The Cavern
FLB - old favorite
Kitten Club
Baccara
Happy
Beach Club
Hell Club
Club Boesche
Illusions
Hot & Cold
Explore Soi 6
Thank you! I promise to report back on all the action.[/QUOTE]
Club Boesche has gone down hill IMHO
I think that Illusions and Hot & Cold are both closed.
Try X-zone, windmill, Whats up
Places can change from day to day one day shit one day great
[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]Places can change from day to day one day shit one day great[/QUOTE]
That sounds like life in general.
Thank you for the tips.
I would also recommend x zone. Up stairs from Club Boesch. Windmill is also a place you should see. Other options on might be airport or some of the other clubs on soi that windmill is located. Soi 15 if i remember correctly. Enjoy
patpong is pretty much a tourist trap
Hello everybody
I have a few questions and I would really appreciate it you can provide me with the needed info, especially that I have big troubles logging on to the forum as I live in a Gulf country where the internet connections is under restrictions, and I always have to use proxies, and most of the time they don’t work properly or even disconnect while going through the forum.
I am finally going to Bangkok for the 1st time, and looking forward to have my first time experiences in Bangkok and Pattaya.
I tried looking through the previous posts, but as I mentioned before, I get often disconnected and it is hard to get catch of everything.
Therefore my questions are:
What are the hassle free hotels in Bangkok and Pattaya? Prices?
How much would it cost for a short time, and a full night with an girl?
Is it ok if I bring 2 Lgirls to the room? How much should I pay each ? is it safe ?
What is the average bar fine in BKK and Pattaya? Best pick up locations ?
What is the best means of transport from BKK to Pattaya and vice versa, and how much ?
Any additional info will be highly appreciated.
Gentlemen, it took me ages to log on to the site and write this, internet restrictions here are terrible, and proxies are really slow
thanks in advance and i promise to write a report when i'm back
T B
[QUOTE=T_Bozen]
What is the average bar fine in BKK and Pattaya? [/QUOTE]
For gogos it's 500-600 in both cities.
[QUOTE=T_Bozen]Hello everybody
I have a few questions and I would really appreciate it you can provide me with the needed info, especially that I have big troubles logging on to the forum as I live in a Gulf country where the internet connections is under restrictions, and [b] I always have to use proxies, and most of the time they don’t work properly or even disconnect while going through the forum.[/b]
I am finally going to Bangkok for the 1st time, and looking forward to have my first time experiences in Bangkok and Pattaya.
I tried looking through the previous posts, but as I mentioned before, I get often disconnected and it is hard to get catch of everything.
Therefore my questions are:
What are the hassle free hotels in Bangkok and Pattaya? Prices?
How much would it cost for a short time, and a full night with an girl?
Is it ok if I bring 2 Lgirls to the room? How much should I pay each ? is it safe ?
What is the average bar fine in BKK and Pattaya? Best pick up locations ?
What is the best means of transport from BKK to Pattaya and vice versa, and how much ?
Any additional info will be highly appreciated.
Gentlemen, it took me ages to log on to the site and write this, internet restrictions here are terrible, and proxies are really slow
[b]thanks in advance and i promise to write a report when i'm back[/b]
T B[/QUOTE]
How will you write your report when you're “back” home if those "proxies" don't work?
[QUOTE=T_Bozen]Hello everybody
I have a few questions and I would really appreciate it you can provide me with the needed info, especially that I have big troubles logging on to the forum as I live in a Gulf country where the internet connections is under restrictions, and I always have to use proxies, and most of the time they don’t work properly or even disconnect while going through the forum.
I am finally going to Bangkok for the 1st time, and looking forward to have my first time experiences in Bangkok and Pattaya.
I tried looking through the previous posts, but as I mentioned before, I get often disconnected and it is hard to get catch of everything.
Therefore my questions are:
What are the hassle free hotels in Bangkok and Pattaya? Prices?
How much would it cost for a short time, and a full night with an girl?
Is it ok if I bring 2 Lgirls to the room? How much should I pay each ? is it safe ?
What is the average bar fine in BKK and Pattaya? Best pick up locations ?
What is the best means of transport from BKK to Pattaya and vice versa, and how much ?
Any additional info will be highly appreciated.
Gentlemen, it took me ages to log on to the site and write this, internet restrictions here are terrible, and proxies are really slow
thanks in advance and i promise to write a report when i'm back
T B[/QUOTE]
Almost all hotels are girl friendly.Check [url]www.agoda.com[/url] for prices and bookings. You might have to pay something for the second girl though.
Average barfine 600 baht, average for girl 1000-1500-2000 baht.
Pick up places are everywhere. Start from soi Cowboy and Nana plaza.
I use taxi to/from Pattaya 1000-1200 baht 1:45 hrs. Bus 120-150 baht 2:30 hrs.
Hi all,
(sorry if double or triple post I have internet connexion problems)
I will be in BKK in a few days with my girlfiend who is bisexual (we had a few very nice sessions at Annie's with two girls).
I really would like to pay a visit to Eden club but I didn't hear nothing about Eden for a long time. Is it still rocking? My girfriend is confortable only with girls older than her. Is it easy to find good looking bisexual girls in her 30's or 40's at Eden? Any advice on Eden or places to find this type or girl is very welcome!
Best
[url]http://www.phuketgazette.net/archives/articles/2010/article8966.html[/url]
if he's guilty, they ought to throw the book at this monster.. Apparently he was a former professional poker player, down on his luck
Taking the risk of being thrashed by this post, but what the hell, here goes:
I have been in BKK for a month now and visited many of the establishments discussed in the BKK forum. Talked to (and had amazing sex with) many beautiful ladies. With the exception of ONE girl in a gogo, every one of them would "prefer" (strongly prefer) not to have anal sex. This obviously does not mean unequivocally that there are not many girls who truly enjoy it. But... (no pun intended)
Now, here is my take on this. There are several places (for those in the know or reading through these forums you know what they are) that advertise A+ services. Personally I think the girl I am with should determine what she is willing to do with me. Otherwise, the act becomes one of violence or forced duty, rather than service. Now some will argue that if she doesn't like A+ then she should find another employer. To that I say every guy is different. She may well be happy giving A+ service to some men of lesser size or gentler nature but there is NO WAY she should end up having to go to the doctor in pain because someone abused her anally. This is a CRIME anyway you look at it. This is NOT a hypothetical scenario, this is an account of what I have been told by more than a few girls.
When I read some of the posts in this forum that speak about the girls as if they are not human beings but toys to be used and enjoyed in anyway the customer sees fit, it makes me sick.
The girls look at servicing the customer as their duty and would rarely refuse a request (or forced position). The customer might think she is enjoying it from her moaning and writhing, when in fact she is trying to make the customer finish as quickly as possible to stop the pain she is enduring for her family.
A large majority of the girls are single mothers supporting a family upcountry. They are living in 2500 baht / per month accommodation with no air conditioning and most share an apartment. They send 80% of what they make to their mother, father and children who they get to visit a few times a year. Again, I know that this is their choice, but I am extremely sympathetic to them.
Now I am all for the industry everywhere in the world. If a man wants to shell out and a girl wants to put out, there should be no law to prohibit that. But, IT SHOULD NEVER BE A FORCED or VIOLENT ACT. In order to avoid this, the customer should always talk to his girl about it before AND DURING the act to make sure she is OK (still OK) with it. That goes for anal or any other kind of sex.
My purpose for writing this post is not to try to step on anyone's toes who likes A+ (there are obviously many on this forum who do), but to try to give the girls that are being hurt by it a little publicity by raising the issue.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano][url]http://www.phuketgazette.net/archives/articles/2010/article8966.html[/url]
if he's guilty, they ought to throw the book at this monster. Apparently he was a former professional poker player, down on his luck[/QUOTE]Which bar did this girl work in?
[QUOTE=Just Enough]Taking the risk of being thrashed by this post, but what the hell, here goes:
I have been in BKK for a month now and visited many of the establishments discussed in the BKK forum. Talked to (and had amazing sex with) many beautiful ladies. With the exception of ONE girl in a gogo, every one of them would "prefer" (strongly prefer) not to have anal sex. This obviously does not mean unequivocally that there are not many girls who truly enjoy it. But... (no pun intended)
Now, here is my take on this. There are several places (for those in the know or reading through these forums you know what they are) that advertise A+ services. Personally I think the girl I am with should determine what she is willing to do with me. Otherwise, the act becomes one of violence or forced duty, rather than service. Now some will argue that if she doesn't like A+ then she should find another employer. To that I say every guy is different. She may well be happy giving A+ service to some men of lesser size or gentler nature but there is NO WAY she should end up having to go to the doctor in pain because someone abused her anally. This is a CRIME anyway you look at it. This is NOT a hypothetical scenario, this is an account of what I have been told by more than a few girls.
When I read some of the posts in this forum that speak about the girls as if they are not human beings but toys to be used and enjoyed in anyway the customer sees fit, it makes me sick.
The girls look at servicing the customer as their duty and would rarely refuse a request (or forced position). The customer might think she is enjoying it from her moaning and writhing, when in fact she is trying to make the customer finish as quickly as possible to stop the pain she is enduring for her family.
A large majority of the girls are single mothers supporting a family upcountry. They are living in 2500 baht / per month accommodation with no air conditioning and most share an apartment. They send 80% of what they make to their mother, father and children who they get to visit a few times a year. Again, I know that this is their choice, but I am extremely sympathetic to them.
Now I am all for the industry everywhere in the world. If a man wants to shell out and a girl wants to put out, there should be no law to prohibit that. But, IT SHOULD NEVER BE A FORCED or VIOLENT ACT. In order to avoid this, the customer should always talk to his girl about it before AND DURING the act to make sure she is OK (still OK) with it. That goes for anal or any other kind of sex.
My purpose for writing this post is not to try to step on anyone's toes who likes A+ (there are obviously many on this forum who do), but to try to give the girls that are being hurt by it a little publicity by raising the issue.[/QUOTE]I completely agree. Well said mate!
[QUOTE=Mr Enforcer]Which bar did this girl work in?[/QUOTE]
If I remember correctly, I think it was a place called Sweethearts. I'm not 100% sure though
[QUOTE=Just Enough]
My purpose for writing this post is not to try to step on anyone's toes who likes A+ (there are obviously many on this forum who do), but to try to give the girls that are being hurt by it a little publicity by raising the issue.[/QUOTE]
If a girl says yes to the service requested, what's the problem?
Where do you get the notion that guys are forcing girls to do things against their will?
I think most guys on this board understand that "yes" means "yes" and "no" means "no".
I'm not sure what your point is.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]patpong is pretty much a tourist trap[/QUOTE]Yes, this is true to some extent. But there is a variety of options for someone with more than a one track mind (i.e., look at dancers, bar fine, go ST, repeat...)
A monger can still have a good time there. Beer bars, music clubs, BJ bars, good food, regular bars, etc.
Many of the go-go dancers are friendly and pretty. There's also are a lot of pretty FL girls, and just off work go-go girls, late night at Twilo Club and a few other places. Just have your ladyboy radar up.
One night, I was with my GF and her friends in Twilo, including a ladyboy named Som. At one point my GF said, "look, Som has customer." There was Som in full lip lock with a big studly guy up by the bandstand. A few minutes later I saw the guy make a beeline for the street wiping his lips with a sheepish look on his face. Pretty funny, really, so...watch out!
[QUOTE=Amjeck]If a girl says yes to the service requested, what's the problem?
Where do you get the notion that guys are forcing girls to do things against their will?
I think most guys on this board understand that "yes" means "yes" and "no" means "no".
I'm not sure what your point is.[/QUOTE]My main point is that (sorry to be so graphic) there are girls who are being abused anally to the point that they are having to go to the doctor with internal bleeding.
Anal sex is not pleasing to MOST girls. IT HURTS THEM.
MANY (not all, ok?) are doing it for the money, ONLY.
If there were guys who got off on punching a girl in the face until bloody, there would be girls who would SAY YES, if it meant being able to support their family.
The Thai word for it is ความ อดทน. Ot Ton. They are thinking about their baby to get them through the pain. Tolerance ; Forbearance ; Patience.
I find it hard to understand how one can take pleasure in hurting another human being.
AND, my post was not meant to make those who like anal sex feel guilty about it. REALLY! I am sure there are girls who like it. But just because they say YES (as you posted) doesn't mean they like it.
I have found that the girls in BKK can please me in a million ways that doesn't hurt them.
Dear all,
What is the best way to get to Phuket from Hua Hin? It seems that an overnight bus will do the trick but I'm not sure.
Take care and keep safe
Taka
[QUOTE=Amjeck]If a girl says yes to the service requested, what's the problem?
Where do you get the notion that guys are forcing girls to do things against their will?
I think most guys on this board understand that "yes" means "yes" and "no" means "no".
I'm not sure what your point is.[/QUOTE]I think he makes a very good point. Yes doesn't mean yes to everything! I think is what he is getting at.
Some guys take liberties.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]A monger can still have a good time there. Beer bars, music clubs, BJ bars, good food, regular bars, etc.[/QUOTE]After hitting the Starbucks on Suriwongse a few months ago, then heading over make a hit on Foodland, I stopped in a loud bar and saw a guy doing some of the bawdy shit we used to do to the girls in the 80's.
Zounds!
Three chicks, all sharing the dude's cigarettes & drinks and holding them high, completely & totally fucked up, and all going full guns to the music. One chick sitting on his bald head like a pussy hat, one with her snatch backed firmly into his face as if it was tattooed on, and one doing a standing reverse cowboy, bouncing up and down on his crotch with her hand hard wanking the guy's stiffy through his pants.
Yessss!
In Soi Cowboy, or even upstairs Nana, this "too much fun" behavior would be more than a bit over the edge.
Hmm, Patpong definitely still has some life left in her. ;)
[QUOTE=Just Enough]My main point is that (sorry to be so graphic) there are girls who are being abused anally to the point that they are having to go to the doctor with internal bleeding.
Anal sex is not pleasing to MOST girls. IT HURTS THEM.
MANY (not all, ok?) are doing it for the money, ONLY.
If there were guys who got off on punching a girl in the face until bloody, there would be girls who would SAY YES, if it meant being able to support their family.
The Thai word for it is ความ อดทน. Ot Ton. They are thinking about their baby to get them through the pain. Tolerance ; Forbearance ; Patience.
I find it hard to understand how one can take pleasure in hurting another human being.
AND, my post was not meant to make those who like anal sex feel guilty about it. REALLY! I am sure there are girls who like it. But just because they say YES (as you posted) doesn't mean they like it.
I have found that the girls in BKK can please me in a million ways that doesn't hurt them.[/QUOTE]
I'm not an anal guy and I don't do girls if it hurts them. But if a girl needs money than it's her choice to say yes or no to anal. She is an adult and can make up her own mind.
You say the girls are being "abused". Who is the abuser?
Also, just because she "says yes" to vaginal insertion doesn't mean she likes it either. Lots of times vaginal intercourse hurts them also.
Millions of people everyday take risks at work and don't like it. But it's their choice.
I think you just feel sorry for the girls and are a bit bothered by the way the world is, and that's ok you're human. But coming on this board and saying things like "This is a CRIME anyway you look at it" and "being abused anally" when in fact it is their choice is just way out of line.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm not an anal guy and I don't do girls if it hurts them. .....[/QUOTE]
I think we can say, not from a moral point of view, but a practical one, that anal fucking (despite the pleasure it can give) is not natural for the body.
The vaginal one is. The reasons are quite clear and there is no need to be graphic.
There will always be girls who are tight there and a normal c**k might hurt them, no doubt, but these are the exceptions.
sAYING [QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm ""She is an adult and can make up her own mind."" [/QUOTE] is, IMHO, also quite short sighted, same as stating
[QUOTE=Amjeck]"Millions of people everyday take risks at work and don't like it. But it's their choice" [/QUOTE]
I am not so sure some risks are taken as a free choice but maybe an induced "no choice"
Enough said as then we open an endless debate.
Just wanted to add my fuel for the thoughts
Couldn't add this to the Suvarnabhumi threat (it was closed).
These are the transport options I take. All except the public bus.
Suvarnabhumi Airport Transportation Fact Sheet
Leaving the Airport
Taxi:
Taxi counter at now at level 1.
There is a 50 Baht surcharge, and you must pay expressway toll when applicable.
To avoid the 50 Baht surcharge, get a taxi from the departure level. Contrary to other posts, you were always able to get the taxi from the departure level. The depature floor splits into 2 (one for normal traffic and the other for taxis). Get the taxi when it drops off its customer.
Rail:
The skytrain is open, somewhat. It is on level B1. It is currently running test on a limited basis (in the morning and evening). There is no fee for these test runs. It is supposed to open on August 23. Not sure what the price will be.
Airport Express Bus:
Office is on level 1. There are 4 routes. Cost is 150 Baht. Last bus leaves between 11:30 PM - 12 AM.
To Pattaya by Air-con bus:
There's a direct service to Pattaya (B124 pp) and Jomtiem. The office is on level 1 next to the Airport Express office. Bus leaves every 2 hours; the last bus leaves at 9 PM. The bus stops at north, central and south Pattaya. And then it goes to Jomtiem.
At the Pattaya drop off, you are still couple of kilometers away from the main area (beach road and 2nd road). To get there, cross very busy Sukhumvit Road and grab a songthaew (10 baht bus) into town. Or there will be tuk-tuks and moto-bikes that will try to gouge you.
Another option to Pattaya is Bell travel with an A/C bus:
One level 1, you will see a small sign (across diagonally from the Airport Express office). Since Bell's depature times are staggered, they will find you after the other bus leaves. Cost is slightly more. The bus will stop at the Pattaya bus station, and then a mini-bus will take you to your hotel.
Other thoughts:
1) If you take the taxi into town at official taxi stand, do not pay their rip-off price when they try to gouge you and ask you for 400 or 500 baht. 99% of the taxi drivers will attempt to screw you because a lot of tourists will pay. Say "meter". If they don't immediately turn on the meter, then say "stop, I will get off". This has always worked. They never will refuse the fair (probably can't).
2) The taxi cost to Pattaya at the official taxi stand will be 1500 baht; this includes the 50 baht surcharge and tollway charges. You can go to the departure level and negotiate a price. A private car offered 1000 baht with tollway included. I was paranoid; I took a meter taxi; negotiated 1200 baht with the tollway included; I probably paid too much since he said yes too fast. My guess is that I could have gotten 1000 baht for a meter taxi. You can arrange a taxi pick-up from a Pattaya travel agent for 1200 baht.
[QUOTE=GreenBud]Couldn't add this to the Suvarnabhumi threat (it was closed).
These are the transport options I take. All except the public bus.
Suvarnabhumi Airport Transportation Fact Sheet
Leaving the Airport
Taxi:
Taxi counter at now at level 1.
There is a 50 Baht surcharge, and you must pay expressway toll when applicable.
To avoid the 50 Baht surcharge, get a taxi from the departure level. Contrary to other posts, you were always able to get the taxi from the departure level. The depature floor splits into 2 (one for normal traffic and the other for taxis). Get the taxi when it drops off its customer.
Rail:
The skytrain is open, somewhat. It is on level B1. It is currently running test on a limited basis (in the morning and evening). There is no fee for these test runs. It is supposed to open on August 23. Not sure what the price will be.
Airport Express Bus:
Office is on level 1. There are 4 routes. Cost is 150 Baht. Last bus leaves between 11:30 PM - 12 AM.
To Pattaya by Air-con bus:
There's a direct service to Pattaya (B124 pp) and Jomtiem. The office is on level 1 next to the Airport Express office. Bus leaves every 2 hours; the last bus leaves at 9 PM. The bus stops at north, central and south Pattaya. And then it goes to Jomtiem.
At the Pattaya drop off, you are still couple of kilometers away from the main area (beach road and 2nd road). To get there, cross very busy Sukhumvit Road and grab a songthaew (10 baht bus) into town. Or there will be tuk-tuks and moto-bikes that will try to gouge you.
Another option to Pattaya is Bell travel with an A/C bus:
One level 1, you will see a small sign (across diagonally from the Airport Express office). Since Bell's depature times are staggered, they will find you after the other bus leaves. Cost is slightly more. The bus will stop at the Pattaya bus station, and then a mini-bus will take you to your hotel.
Other thoughts:
1) If you take the taxi into town at official taxi stand, do not pay their rip-off price when they try to gouge you and ask you for 400 or 500 baht. 99% of the taxi drivers will attempt to screw you because a lot of tourists will pay. Say "meter". If they don't immediately turn on the meter, then say "stop, I will get off". This has always worked. They never will refuse the fair (probably can't).
2) The taxi cost to Pattaya at the official taxi stand will be 1500 baht; this includes the 50 baht surcharge and tollway charges. You can go to the departure level and negotiate a price. A private car offered 1000 baht with tollway included. I was paranoid; I took a meter taxi; negotiated 1200 baht with the tollway included; I probably paid too much since he said yes too fast. My guess is that I could have gotten 1000 baht for a meter taxi. You can arrange a taxi pick-up from a Pattaya travel agent for 1200 baht.[/QUOTE]
From BKK city or the airport to Pattaya I tell them I'll pay you 1000 baht and I wiil pay the toll. In that way they will use the express way all the way otherwise they will drive underneath on the most part in order to save the toll
In Pattaya there are a lot of taxi stands (agents).Cost is 800 baht to the airport or 1000-1200 baht to the city including toll. 1200 being a private car not regular taxi. All taxis awaiting agents call for a ride to BKK are parked on the intersection of 3rd road and north Pattaya road. Agents get about 200 baht I guess,
I will depart Tampa 16 August for Thailand. I have an attractive 24 year old virgin meeting me at the Airport and staying with me for 8 days. I have met many others ranging from 10 to 1 that is 60. All want to get laid and all are free. I am staying at a few of their homes. I found a gold mine website. I was ready to pay average 800 Baht night for a warm body next to me, now I will have 1 each and every night that I am there for free. I am going alone (no wife). I am married to an attractive Thai lady here in America and I have a sexy hot young Thai wife in Yasothon.
If anyone wants to meet, I will share my secret with you. It is a free website and more free pussy than you can shake a stick at. I have been approached by a few ladyboys on the site but it's not my bag. I would love to make friends with a few of you guys on here.
Dudes the pussy is really flowing in Thailand. Never let anyone tell you different. I am fat and bald and I just turned 48. If I can get these girls, anyone can. I am happy to share my secrets. Just treat them like ladies, because they are.... I will stay in Thailand until 04 September. And the women are all over Thailand. It really is easy... Ken
[QUOTE=Metro33777]I will depart Tampa 16 August for Thailand. I have an attractive 24 year old virgin meeting me at the Airport and staying with me for 8 days. I have met many others ranging from 10 to 1 that is 60. All want to get laid and all are free. I am staying at a few of their homes. I found a gold mine website. I was ready to pay average 800 Baht night for a warm body next to me, now I will have 1 each and every night that I am there for free. I am going alone (no wife). I am married to an attractive Thai lady here in America and I have a sexy hot young Thai wife in Yasothon.
If anyone wants to meet, I will share my secret with you. It is a free website and more free pussy than you can shake a stick at. I have been approached by a few ladyboys on the site but it's not my bag. I would love to make friends with a few of you guys on here.
Dudes the pussy is really flowing in Thailand. Never let anyone tell you different. I am fat and bald and I just turned 48. If I can get these girls, anyone can. I am happy to share my secrets. Just treat them like ladies, because they are.... I will stay in Thailand until 04 September. And the women are all over Thailand. It really is easy... Ken[/QUOTE]Ken,
We all get offered free sex in Thailand. If you have the morals to take it, without giving the girls anything then that's up to you. Just remember, the only secret that you are sharing with us, is that you are a Cheap Charlie.
Thanks for sharing.
So you thought you were rid of me, didn't you? Well, not that easy my friends. This report, as the title suggests, is a field report, albeit not one from the front lines. It describes a somewhat less discussed aspect of mongering in Thailand (and perhaps other SE Asian locales).
During my one month in BKK/Pattaya, I plowed a variety of fields, picking up few contact bits like emails, phone numbers, etc. here and there, not really thinking about any of it. But upon my return to the land of sexual repression, aka the land of the free (hah!), I started to pine for some kind of stimulation. Well, one morning I woke up and found an email in my inbox from a girl I had met in Thailand.
OK, I've seen this movie before. Here's what I predicted from the email: "Oh Kumbu, me miss you too much, when you come back Thailand? I wait you."
Much to my surprise, there were none of the tired cliches. No 'I love you', no 'I wait you'. Instead, there was a little blurb about what her day was like. She went to the doctor, she slept until 3pm, she spent some time at the salon, went to the club, got 550B in tips, did ST with a guy from Germany; he smelled very bad, but he finished quickly and paid her 3000B.
And it ended with "so what you do today?"
So I see where this is going. She's trying to lay the groundwork for something long term, right? Well, I am far away, quite immune to her powers, so I decide to have some fun. I write her back, telling her that the previous day I woke up with an enourmous erection, but there was no one in my bed to satisfy it. So I wanked myself silly for a good ten minutes, and then not happy with that, I got out of bed and popped open my stash of porn and watched for an hour as I slowly jerked myself off. Then I had breakfast with lots of coffee, and then went down to Hollywood Blvd and found a tramp who looked like she really needed some drugs. I offered her $20 to suck me off, and she agreed. But then she wanted more money, so I told her I would fuck her up the ass for another $20, and she gladly agreed. So I fucked her ass for 30 minutes, and finally I was happy. So then I went to work at around 10am and when my boss complained, I told him to go fuck himself. All of this was total bullshit, of course, but hey, this is email.
She replied 5 hours later with the most gleeful response. Attached to the message was a shot of her tits, and she told me to jerk off to these tits instead. Please don't ask me to send you the photo - some things are not meant to be shared.
So that's how it started.
We emailed a little, and meanwhile I started to get a couple of other emails from various girls I had hooked up with. To cut a long story short, I am now in regular contact with three girls.
This first girl is easily the one with whom I have the best rapport. A few weeks ago she introduced me to the world of online chatting and stuff. Believe it or not, I have never chatted online with anyone, ever, in my life. So I just don't know how these things work.
She, on the other hand, is a total pro. She knew all the chatting venues, all the conventions, everything. Hotmail, gmail, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, etc. We tried MSN messenger, which sucked, then switched over to Yahoo Messenger, with the video chat option. This was ok, but having Skyped (for work purposes) in the past, I introduced her to Skype. She had never heard of this so I set her up with an account, and suddenly there she was, in full-screen, glorious color. There's nothing like moving pictures.
So here's what's happening now. I log on perhaps twice a week during my lunch hour, during which time she shares sordid stories of what happened at her gogo bar over the last half week. She tells me about the inter-girl bickering, the manipulations that occur between mama san and the various girls, how the boss arrives once in a while to check up on things, the decline in customers these days, etc. It's all rather boring, with the occasional story about two-faced back-stabbing gogo girls stealing men from other gogo girls. It's nothing special really, just a nice lunch-time diversion.
But then last week, things took a decidedly...fleshy...turn. At our regular, agreed-upon time, I logged onto Skype, and as soon as we connected, she leaned back in the chair and behold: there she was with her legs spread before the webcam. The shrivelled vienna sausage between my legs morphed into the wettest salami roll in a matter of milliseconds, and I felt a spurt of pre-cum dribble down my leg.
Gaping Pussy: You like tilak?
Oggled Kumbu: ...
Gaping Pussy: Tilak? You ok?
Drooling Kumbu: ...
Gaping Pussy: Tilak? Tilak, you see? You camera on? Tilak?
Shuddering Kumbu: ...mmmmmmmmmm...pussssssssssyyyyyyyyyy...
Damn, there had not been so much as a hint of non-verbal naughtiness from her before this, although I must admit I had hoped. So without me asking, she decided to give me some. Actually, what did it this time is that she changed internet cafes and found one with a private room. So in the privacy of this room, she could bare it all.
Of course, I had seen (and tasted) everything on display here, so nothing new for me, but still, more than six weeks since leaving, it's always nice to go through a little refresher course. She pulled a little, poked a bit, twisted and turned, and played around. She then turned around and kneeled on the swivel chair and showed me her beautiful side: ass, of course. A few moments of this, and then she pops her boobs out and shows them to me from all angles.
The she asks me: you like tilak?
I nod in the affirmative, and she asks "so why you no finish?" I didn't understand, so I frown and cock my head a little. And she makes a loose fist and pumps it up and down: the universal hand sign for masturbation. Nice.
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So far, she's the only one giving me regular full-screen live, interactive porn - the other two have not quite started down this track. It will be interesting to see how this progresses.
Anyone taken this route before? How did it end? When did the girls drop the hammer and ask for either money or emotion? I'm a newbie in this domain, and while it ain't nearly as good as the real thing, damn, it's a sweet second-best.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]So far, she's the only one giving me regular full-screen live, interactive porn - the other two have not quite started down this track. It will be interesting to see how this progresses.
Anyone taken this route before? How did it end? When did the girls drop the hammer and ask for either money or emotion? I'm a newbie in this domain, and while it ain't nearly as good as the real thing, damn, it's a sweet second-best.[/QUOTE]She is definitely not in it for the money. She likes Kumbu.
Thailand report Sonkran.
Here we go, Thailand trip report, one target was to try Penthouse hotel Pattaya*:
Day 1*:
Landed at Bbk under the sun, taxi was sent from Majestic Suites at prohibited cost but was my choice. Booking was recorded without Ccredit card, thanks to Majestic suites again. Room was a bit small according my taste but extra clean, water supply ok and accurate aircon system. Wireless code was delivered.
I went to Annie's first for a afternoon relax at 3 pm. Sort of staff led me upstairs to the tanks where I Picked # 17 (can't remember the name) for her smile. She was on the plumpy side but very smily. First 30 min I get the soapy well done with cum on tits. Next oil massage was satisfying. The girl then stopped and asked me if I wanted sex. I ordered a drink (for a small charge) then we went ahead, mostly doggy. I was tired and tooks me years to come. Miss was not angry at all and said that it was good for her pussy training. I finally came and requested for some live thaï songs wich she performed well. I paid the standard rate as defined in Annie's thread. It was a nice experience I will repeat.
I went for some kebabs sandwiches at arabian side, great and cheap and visit the first Sois to make a bit of exercise. Had then a early evening beer at Nana where company girls where old and ugly, but its always funny to watch the entrance and observe pussies «*checking in*» for work. I bought some blue bullets to make my «* long Island scoubidick thaïce-tea*» wich is made of one V grated fine with 2 scoops of rinse mouth solution and one bottle of spring water. This is called holidays.
After the sun declined, I led to the german restaurant near Nana to have a saussage/ mashed potaoes properly soso and made a pick at the parking for a quickie inside Nana (they do have rooms at 3rd floor) I had the job well done by a newbie look 8 skills 5. She allowed me doggy with a finger plugged at rear with some lube as a bonus. She allowed herself to develloping robbing skills with taking away my remaining 1000 in a hidden pocket of my shortpant*: a master. Damage*: 1000+100str+1000, LOL, a very good time but excessively costly. Did not affect my mood anyway.
I chained with a walk to Cowboy because I simply like wander arround. I was proposed on the way by laos and chickies, both original and trans but led back to the Hotel where I had a nice night alone. End of the Day one. Total cost for the day arround 6OOO all included.
Day 2*:
Had a meetup with another Isger, he shown me where is Devil's Den and intoduced me to Mango massage in later Sois. I picked Tang, yet one of the beautifull skin and shell I saw in my life. After a tradionnal Shower+BBBJ Cim, she done a nice massage. She mentionned at that time that if I would more sex I should tip her 2000. I accepted the deal as really she was something like a godess naked.
We had a nice session, I just surprised myself to be in erotic mood, not just that pure bloody raunch style. Maybe that's symptom of her esthetic. I came while doggy. I asked for drink (no charge) and have a small nap, she just allowed. Neighboors were fucking hard the other rooms, despite the thick walls, so I get hard again and miss universe sucked me dry, swallowing until the last drop. Total damage was 2300 for 3 pops but every cent woth of it. I recommand Mango for repeaters or machinegunners can aim and shoot for 2 hours. My girl never told me any restrictions, and should I wanted anal, she sure allowed.
Afternoon we had chit-chat at Beergarden that I find boring like shit, with all those half-life expats or I don't know what boring too, then exit.
After dinner we inspected all Gogos at Cowboy, showing the same linup of naked peanuts rather on the girlie side*: short, tanned, cute. I did not noticed a place better than another, and disliked the smoking ban. We decided to explore Patpong. Took taxi about 3O min and reached there. We visited the Café making something like a bridge into between 2 buildings. Have very but few pussies inside, sensual but not our taste. We had a drink then left. Next we selected a gogo among all avaiables (in Patpong, seems to have a 2:1 ratio ladyboys/pussies gogo's, so be sure to not enter gogos where girls are acerage taller than 170cm). We had fun with girls and Mama but I was not so keen about that deal of 2 hours «*in a hotel nearby*» for 2000 especially because my girl was not enthusiastic. Gone away with smiles. Paid drinks and not BF. Not hack or nothing, just spent some cash for fun. Damage 1000. By the way, still can smoke in Patpong gogo's. We passed a small Gogo wich advertise on spanking and submissive, But entered next door where were dancing amazing bombs on the superstar side. We enjoyed the sight without asking for deal because sure we were in some porn pro concerns with 5OOO ticket. Better have a way we can rather than cry on what we can not.
We exit and went back at 1am at Sumk, we separated over a last drink in Nana. I boned a loner in early sois (for 1000+200) and went back to sleep too.
I had fun seeing the cops chasing 3 lao girls and a sissy boy who were running like rabbits, actually very fast with heel shoes. Peace on them.
Total cost of the day 6000
Day 3*:
It was Sonkran itself, I wear beach- like stuff and went play water with Nana chicks all day. I am a terrific Thaï cha-cha dancer so I had really fun.
After the deluge and 5O breezers I just handle to return hotel, take a warm shower, pick up a rounded butt look 7 skills 7 at Soi 3 for a quickie in the Short time hotel which is at the right entrance of «*little africa*» Have a nice doggy then cum on face, asian faces turn me on. Damage 1000+ 200str. Beer Garden was closed. I crashed to bed early without any forces anymore. What a day.
Total cost for the day arround 3OOO all included.
Somewhere else some city fight, but none of my concern.
Day 4*:
Majestic booked my trip for Pattaya at average limousine rate 1000, but they messed up with laundry that usualy is returned at 2 pm. Nevertherless I went off BBK to Pat, very curious to check that «*penthouse Hotel*» everybody talked about. Checked in at noon, have good impression, no [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]-off at checking, smell was a bit heavy (same as old brothels) but with a once of habit and a once of realism, that's something can be ignored. Beside, you are free to ask staff to let windows open when you are not in. That is what my room attendents done. No complain about staff, they are kind and prompt to o upstairs deliver whatever I wanted. As I was damn ot ouside I led to Hard rock cafe for a Burger/ long Island. I Had a knock-off about the price and because the alcool. I picked a chubby firm cuttie on the way back to Penthouse and did her in a 100 str for the classical 5OO.
She was smily looking 6 skills 7 and about early 30's. I went back penthouse for a nap and shower, well, my room was funny with a pole in the shower. I did not noticed any cockroaches.
After my nap I went to gogo's and club area but it was far too early and no thrill. I changed my mind to try the brothels at middle- soi. Well, I did not especially like the concept, total a 1000 tbh for just an average pop. Yes, beer was fresh, the girl too (look 6 skills 4) and the room very clean, despite this, I think the concept useless even for someone don't know how to pickup at beach road in afternoon. I found out 1000 bath a waiste, strangely.
I returned end of beach road, had a nachos at beergarden definitely empty, but I like this kind of peacefull environment to eat. I took an after dinner along Beach road and picked up a 30er in a very lovely red dress (looking 7, skills 7). I unpacked her in penthouse and she was happy to discover the place. She performed well and did not think at all nasty, impressed by the room. Damage 500.
By 1O pm I went clubbing on Tom collins mode. Visited many of the discos and live music bars.
Music goin'on I get dead drunk, and since the street started to feed on 190 cm ladyboys, I returned Penthouse simply hopping from bar to bar and visiting Gogo's. I intended to visit the 2 clubs of penthouse, but, since the first entrance was the ladyboy club, I had a look inside, and a sort of very tanned lady offered me to sell me hardcore stuff that I can not list and suggested me to bone a teen from the secret reserve of the premises. I was drunk and high, I refused all that bizz and went to sleep. I decided to sweep Penthouse clubs, as I guess pussies are trained to clear net the amenities.
I don't have any tatoo mentionning «*pigeon*» on my body. I get my room and had a deep sleep.
Total wank cost 2200 for wanking, 2000 for drink and food.
Total for that day 5OOO.
Day 5*:
Woke up late, went to head and shoulder massage at the shop is near the Burger King at the end of beach road. My girl done superb and one hour later my headhache was gone, for 300. I think daters can pick up numbers in traditionnal massage places but it was not my purpose. I visited sois, occasionnaly playing with water with Beer bars staffs and drunken guys. Rather Happy mood to
Be there, simply. I sat down at a regular Bar, supervised by a very friendly ladyboy, we had a couple of beers together with a Portuguese guy and I left late afternoon. The Ladyboy gave me his number if I need something as I am a newbie in Pat.
I went eat something at Beergarden again without definitive plan.
After dinner I entered party area a bit and cross a chubby lady seemed like designed for A. I went strait to the point*: can you take it into the ass and how about the cost*?
She answered*: why not*? 1500 for unlimited A shoots until you tired. I sealed the deal and we came back Penthouse near by.
Unwrapped package was chubby but firm look 5 skills 9. As I mentionned «*no ass, no money*» I was almost no allowed to get out of it Hole was rather tight, maybe because she ask for double notes. Girl was fantastic mood because of penthouse design. We laugh and fuck for steady 2 hours and I decided that it was ok.
The girl spend time in the pole-shower, saying that she feel sexy like a 18er fresh from the nest.
Yet it was a good combination, that girl+ penthouse design. Damage 1500.
After that mission, I engaged in a bit of beer hydratation, went to the major discos but danced instead of spotting. When my dancing account was filled up I came back to beach road where I earlier spotted a very nice 2O's sitting alone with white dress and Ipod. I closed the thing at 500, back to penthouse with her and she gave me a very good shag, sweet and deep. She was sort of a perfect angel but the tummy was full of tons of pregnancy wrinkles, that could explain her discount rate. She was white as a Chinese, no tatoos. I spreaded juice while doing bended DF and was very happy with her. Look 9, skilld 9, Tummy 1. She was quiet because never entered penthouse before.
I doubled the cash for her (1000) to buy some relief cream for her belly, and she was happy about that. I sent her out and went for a couple of final drinks before come room alone and sleep.
Total cost for the day*: 4000
Day 6
I asked Penthouse to extend one night, as lazy to check in-somewhere else.
Spent a lazy day outside, serached for the blow job bar but never found.
I listened live music bands playing at basements of shopping malls. Returned back to penthouse for a shower and headed the party area Again. I made a round again, and I had been surprised of «*living dolls*» gogo's. Those girls rocks and dance like nowhere else. I had a chit chat with the boss and he recommended a number bouncing in the air. I barfined her but she refused to follow me at Mixx Club for a bit of techno dancing, but she denied. I told her to simply stay there and wait for any assshole to take her away, but I don't range among.
I was a bit bitter about that refusal, despite I understand fucking is more easy than dancing for the chicks. I was getting high on ginto. I took a break outside where I saw 2 guys dealing with some unconsciousness. Well. Thats Pattaya. I called that very tall ladyboy of the previous day to escort me at Mixx Club. We had fun me pretending be a pimp and trading the cost for indians and russians to fuck him. I think best offer has been 3000 st. Funny! We later went on Russian drinking mode and after 4000 tb (its going fast at Mixx) on gintos and I hit the dancefloor hard. We then went back to penthouse. I was nauseous and delirium tremendous headhache, just avoided to vomit and sleep. The shemale slept on the fucking doctor chair and I woke up without any dick in my ass or sperm on my lips. I tipped the guy 2000 for security escorting, and the one tip is the one decide.
Total cost of that special day*: 7000 but «*safely home*».
Days 7*:
Left Penthouse, met 2 isgers offering me back to BBK at reduced cost by taxi. So share was down to 400 for back at majestic in Middle Afternoon. Thanks to them avoiding me pay the full rate a bit on the steal offered by Madam Penthouse. Checkout was non-hassle, billing cristal clear. Thanks to Penthouse for this hosting, I envoyed it.
Back in Sum I made some ST action among the street line-up between Nana and Cowboy, nothing noticable as now the rate can not be discussed under 1000 for hookers. I had no vibes anymore for Devil's Den, I will try it on next trip. I met 2 girls from Ouzbekistan, very sexy but to fat according my taste. I finally picked a last girly on the parking, was very young and fresh, I wonder why the stand here instead a better spot. I am not investigator. I bring her Hotel, look 9*; skills 4, tired, or newbie or I don't know. She was not enjoying banging so I released her still with her 1000 gift. And slept.
Total cost for the day 3000 (3 pops) logistic 1500
Total of the day 5OOO
Thats all for this Thailand trip. Damn too short.
Total cost for enternainment (food+wank+drink+links) 50. 000 Tb over 7 days.
My choice of Majestic+Penthouse+Majestic was safe and fun, despite a bit costly.
I had great fun overall, plenty of various pussies with smiles, only one stealing issue.
Arwards*: Mango massage BBK, penthouse hotel + hooker combo PAT and fried fish.
To avoid*: hair dresser at Sumkhuvit, overpriced.
Not impressed*: Beergarden BBK.
Most peacefull place*: Beergarden PAT
Good surprise*: «*living dolls*» PAT
Disapointment*: empty Liquid Disco at Nana hotel, I remind it as a infernal spot to pick in the past.
I recommand anyone to go for Sonkran in Thailand, it doubles the fun.
Here Miss A, in Penthouse after-wank mood:
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]
Anyone taken this route before? How did it end? When did the girls drop the hammer and ask for either money or emotion? I'm a newbie in this domain, and while it ain't nearly as good as the real thing, damn, it's a sweet second-best.[/QUOTE]
Maybe she is putting in the hooks for next visit, she probably had a good time with you and its something to look forward too beyond the day to day grind,
It will keep you happy until you return to BKK
BK
Interesting scenario Kumbu. On the one hand, she is telling you about her work day, so absolutely not hiding from you that she is working, unlike most girls who will ask the punter to be quiet while she talks to her sponsor, and tells him............."I am in my loom, tilak, no, I not go out", so that's a good thing.
Then she is playing the nasty with you on cam, so she is clearly happy to have some fun with you. Obviously, you treated her well, and she enjoyed your company.
Now, did you tell her you were coming back soon? if yes, then I am with BKK dreaming on this one. If no, then who knows why she is doing it. But the problem could be she is expecting a longer time with you on your next visit. Having read your previous FRs, you like to sample many treats, and will she be happy just seeing you a couple evenings during a month long stay, especially considering the preparatory work she is putting in now?
quite a quagmire for little Kumbu.
For years I have been changing my US dollars in Vasu Exchange Sukhumvit near soi 7/1. Today I changed about 40000 Baht . And deposit the money in my Bangkok bank account using the automated deposit machine. 4 off the 1000 Baht bills where rejected by the machine as being faked. I went back to the shop and ask them to change those bills and they changed them without hesitations. Wonder if this happened to any one else. I wonder that's why they can give better rates than the bank by mixing 1% fake bills in all transactions?
[QUOTE=Scoubidick]Thailand report Sonkran.
Here we go, Thailand trip report, one target was to try Penthouse hotel Pattaya*:
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I recommand anyone to go for Sonkran in Thailand, it doubles the fun.
Here Miss A, in Penthouse after-wank mood:
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this is hell of a good report and quite informative without becoming a sex novel, lol
(not that I blash Kumbu great writing style!)
.......... By the way, still can smoke in Patpong gogo's. We passed a small Gogo wich advertise on spanking and submissive, . . . .
Hallo, would you please give some more details about how to find that place with the "spanking and submissives". Was it in P I or P II ?-
Would like very much to go there.
If you want you also can PM me.
Thanks
FV
[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor].......... By the way, still can smoke in Patpong gogo's. We passed a small Gogo wich advertise on spanking and submissive, . . . .
Hallo, would you please give some more details about how to find that place with the "spanking and submissives". Was it in P I or P II ?-
Would like very much to go there.
If you want you also can PM me.
Thanks
FV[/QUOTE]
The one I know (But have never tried) is in Patpong II.
Enter from Silom Rd and its about 30 mtrs on the Right.
I think it is called Bar-Bar!
Hotman
[url]http://www.barbar-bangkok.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Love Sex 22]For years I have been changing my US dollars in Vasu Exchange Sukhumvit near soi 7/1. Today I changed about 40000 Baht . And deposit the money in my Bangkok bank account using the automated deposit machine. 4 off the 1000 Baht bills where rejected by the machine as being faked. I went back to the shop and ask them to change those bills and they changed them without hesitations. Wonder if this happened to any one else. I wonder that's why they can give better rates than the bank by mixing 1% fake bills in all transactions?[/QUOTE]
Not sure whether or not they gave you fake money (and if it is the case, I doubt that it was intentional) because the automated deposit machine may reject a banknote for various reasons, but 4000 out of 40000 baht is not 1%, but 10% of the total amount of the transaction.
[QUOTE=Goyave]Not sure whether or not they gave you fake money (and if it is the case, I doubt that it was intentional) because the automated deposit machine may reject a banknote for various reasons, but 4000 out of 40000 baht is not 1%, but 10% of the total amount of the transaction.[/QUOTE]
I put the bills back in the machine 3 times and they where rejected all 3 times. So what else could be the reasons. It happened to me another times few months a go I sold some gold in one of MBK gold shops that offered the highest rate for the buying prices for gold. I got about 120000 Baht and out of it the machine rejected 6 bills that the shop took back again as if nothing happened. The easiness that in both cases they took the money back some how is singe of guilt to me. How about if I was a crook and go all over town changing money and returning as you corrected me 10% of the money I changed with real counterfeit money and demanded to be changed to real money. They even didn't check the money closely just replaced it with new bills. I must admit that this is the first time this happens to me with Vasu so it could be an accident, but I try to help the fellow members to check the bills the same way in the bank to make sure that they don't get stock with large amount of counterfeit money , as I hear its plenty of counterfeit 1000 baht bills around all over Thailand.
[QUOTE=Love Sex 22]I put the bills back in the machine 3 times and they where rejected all 3 times. So what else could be the reasons...[/QUOTE]
Sometimes, if your banknotes are a bit damaged or crumpled, they may be rejected by automated deposit machines or money exchange machines, for instance. It happened to me once with a money exchange machine even though I was certain of the provenance (my bank in France) of those Euro banknotes, but the ones that have been rejected were not in pristine condition... Anyway, I've been able to convert them a bit later at a Thai bank (so, they were not fake, as it seems)!
[QUOTE=Goyave]Sometimes, if your banknotes are a bit damaged or crumpled, they may be rejected by automated deposit machines or money exchange machines, for instance. It happened to me once with a money exchange machine even though I was certain of the provenance (my bank in France) of those Euro banknotes, but the ones that have been rejected were not in pristine condition... Anyway, I've been able to convert them a bit later at a Thai bank (so, they were not fake, as it seems)![/QUOTE]
But these notes were brand new.
[QUOTE=Distantpeak]Ken,
We all get offered free sex in Thailand. If you have the morals to take it, without giving the girls anything then that's up to you. Just remember, the only secret that you are sharing with us, is that you are a Cheap Charlie.
Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]
not cheap Charlie at all, just reaping the harvest . Why pay for the milk when you can get it for free, and they enjoy it for real.
[QUOTE=Metro33777]not cheap Charlie at all, just reaping the harvest . Why pay for the milk when you can get it for free, and they enjoy it for real.[/QUOTE]You don't seem to get it either. Of course we can get it for free. But why take advantage of girls like that? I could have and still can get sex for free in Thailand, but I would never allow that to happen, unless I wanted a serious long term relationship. If you don't pay them, then marry them. Else you are just a selfish git.
[QUOTE=Metro33777]Why pay for the milk when you can get it for free, and they enjoy it for real.[/QUOTE]
Where is the free milk? Is it fresh?
[QUOTE=Kumbu]Then I had breakfast with lots of coffee, and then went down to Hollywood Blvd and found a tramp who looked like she really needed some drugs. I offered her $20 to suck me off, and she agreed. But then she wanted more money, so I told her I would fuck her up the ass for another $20, and she gladly agreed. So I fucked her ass for 30 minutes, and finally I was happy. [/QUOTE]
Cheaper than Bkk! Why even fly out to LOS? LOL!
[QUOTE=Metro33777]not cheap Charlie at all, just reaping the harvest . Why pay for the milk when you can get it for free, and they enjoy it for real.[/QUOTE]
M33777,
I think the correct quote is " Why buy the cow when you can get one for free " This is what someone quoted me when I decide to get married.
Your point of view and secret isn't really a secret at all. We males will always have a view when it comes to pussy as getting for free. But IMHO it really isn't always free there is always a cost or ramification. As kids when our harmores start we run around with our heads chopped off doing stupid things working our ass off just to have a few bucks just to get a look at what a pussy look like. We kill ourselves buying clothes getting dressed up, cleaning up our junk cars just so we can use that back seat?
In the late 90's classified ads started and became popular and today it is the Internet! we can be anything we want since everyone hides and pretend we are something we aren't even the ladies are just as bad especially in Thailand.
So unless you are landing, checking into your hotel and meeting these girls and going straight back to your place and fucking them, they leave never calling again, and you move on to the next one in the same matter. I hate to break it to you! you are in no way getting the cow for free!
So forget all this about getting a Virgin or something for free, first of all did you fly to BKK for free? Last, being fat and bald as you mentioned and having a beautiful wife letting you go alone to BKK while she stays home. I suggest you second think that because " When the cat is away the mouse will play ". Plus when the game is over she gets half!
So forget all this free stuff! nothing is free! maybe just less expensive! but some continue to stroke their ego that it is!
Enjoy! and that's not free either!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]
So unless you are landing, checking into your hotel and meeting these girls and going straight back to your place and fucking them, they leave never calling again, and you move on to the next one in the same matter. I hate to break it to you! you are in no way getting the cow for free!
....................
So forget all this free stuff! nothing is free! maybe just less expensive! but some continue to stroke their ego that it is!
Enjoy! and that's not free either!
LBM[/QUOTE]
There is lots of free pussy to be had in Thailand. The truth, however, is that the free stuff is almost always ugly and/or unattractive.
The really good stuff comes with a price (time, energy, money, sanity).
So, when guys say: "yah I got laid for free" I say, "show me the girl". I've never seen anything worth more than 1000 baht ST anyways.
Nobody is fucking top of the line pussy in Thailand for free. Trust me!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]We males will always have a view when it comes to pussy as getting for free. But IMHO it really isn't always free there is always a cost or ramification. As kids when our harmores start we run around with our heads chopped off doing stupid things working our ass off just to have a few bucks just to get a look at what a pussy look like. We kill ourselves buying clothes getting dressed up, cleaning up our junk cars just so we can use that back seat? [/QUOTE]The last time I called myself getting some free pussy I ended up having to pay for it for 18 years. As a friend of mine said, If there was no more pussy on this earth there would never be a reason to get another shave, haircut, or buy another bottle of cologne.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Where is the free milk? Is it fresh?[/QUOTE]
[url]www.thaifriendly.com[/url]
So in my previous virtual report, I told you about three girls with whom I have managed to establish regular 'chat' contact. Girl #1 is giving me plenty of visual feasting without any emotional or financial demands. Some of you speculated that she is either truly into me (which I suspect is NOT the case), or that she is laying the groundwork for my future return. I think this latter scenario is far more likely. She knows I will be coming back, but she does not know exactly when. And in the meantime, this is a fun little diversion for her.
The other two, on the other hand, are totally different. Coincidentally, on Monday, they both dropped the L-bomb on me. Both conversations were humorously similar.
'Tilak...can I tell you something, you not get angli? Can I tell you something, make me think too much? Tilak, I lub you. I don't know why, I neeeever feel like this before, I no understand, but I lub you.'
They both said almost the same thing, delivering the line in almost the same manner. Now, perhaps being an ISG member has made me super cynical, or perhaps I have a good grasp on reality, or whatever, but this just didn't sound right to me.
I, of course, did not reciprocate with the I Lub You BS. I may be a lot of things, but I try not to lie to these girls. Yes, that's true - if they ask me an embarrassing question, like how many girls have you been with in the last month, or have you ever failed to get it up, I usually tell them the truth, simply because my memory is not good enough to keep track of who I lied to and the details of each lie. So I just stick to the truth as much as I can, and avoid those 'Gotcha!' moments when she figures out I am full of shit. So I just didn't respond to their claims for love, and they both seemed to be unsurprised, and in fact seemed to have an air of determination about them.
So the fact that these two both dropped the L-bomb at the same time, *on the very same day*, in very similar ways, makes me very suspicious. But they have both been kind of that way from the beginning, so I knew exactly what I was getting into. I considered the possibility that they are actually working together, but this seems highly unlikely since one of them works in Pattaya, the other in BKK. But it's possible.
Girl #1, on the other hand, continues her flight into ephemeral beauty. Yesterday when I as done with the two love girls, I logged on to chat with Girl #1, and she asked me what my favorite color is. I told her I don't have one, and she said that she thinks it is siisuhmpoo (pink). I laughed, and asked her why siishuhmpoo, and she opened her legs and pointed down to the panty-less crotch and said 'siishuhmpooooooooo'. You gotta love it.
[QUOTE=Metro33777][url]www.thaifriendly.com[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm not particularly interested in joining any dating website, but you spoke about a "free" website, earlier. If this website is really "free", why is there a refund policy? It seems that one will have to pay something at some point then, isn't it?
[QUOTE=Love Sex 22]But these notes were brand new.[/QUOTE]
Well, I don't know the exact reason why your banknotes were rejected in this case. Maybe were they indeed fake, maybe not. I just gave you one reason why an automated deposit machine may reject a banknote, but there is probably several other things that could have caused this phenomenon, even if the banknotes are not counterfeit ones.
For all your experienced travelers, what are the chance of getting fake bills at a money exchanger? Would it be safer to go to a Bank to exchange money? I have never been to Thailand so would not be able to tell a good one from a fake one since I have never seen Thai Baht before. Thanks for any advice.
[QUOTE=Csun213]For all your experienced travelers, what are the chance of getting fake bills at a money exchanger? Would it be safer to go to a Bank to exchange money? I have never been to Thailand so would not be able to tell a good one from a fake one since I have never seen Thai Baht before. Thanks for any advice.[/QUOTE]It's way less risky than in China. In Thailand I have yet to see a fake bill, in China they are quite common, even sometimes out of ATMs.
[QUOTE=Goyave]Not sure whether or not they gave you fake money (and if it is the case, I doubt that it was intentional) because the automated deposit machine may reject a banknote for various reasons[/QUOTE]Exactly. That machine is set up to reject any bill that's not perfect.
There are fake B1000 bills around, but they're not exactly common. The last police estimate I heard was around 0.5%, so about 1 in 200. Would a money changer hoard them to give out to unsuspecting farangs? I really doubt it.
[QUOTE=Betong]Exactly. That machine is set up to reject any bill that's not perfect.
There are fake B1000 bills around, but they're not exactly common. The last police estimate I heard was around 0.5%, so about 1 in 200. Would a money changer hoard them to give out to unsuspecting farangs? I really doubt it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys, that is good to know.
[QUOTE=Kumbu] Some of you speculated that she is either truly into me (which I suspect is NOT the case), or that she is laying the groundwork for my future return.[/QUOTE]I have not been to Thailand (yet) so do not know Thai personalities, but there is a third option: a combination of the two.
I know a fair number of young women, both pro and non-pro. They fall into "like" really quickly, we forget how quick it was when we were young. So it is entirely possible she really digs you *and* is setting things up for your return.
[QUOTE=Betong]Exactly. That machine is set up to reject any bill that's not perfect.
There are fake B1000 bills around, but they're not exactly common. The last police estimate I heard was around 0.5%, so about 1 in 200. Would a money changer hoard them to give out to unsuspecting farangs? I really doubt it.[/QUOTE]
But this bills where brand new, straight, and no corners were folded, sitting flat never been touched by any one before. what cannot be perfect about them. Specially I put them in the machine 3 times.
Actually the best way to distribute fake money would be through money changers to the millions of unsuspecting farangs tourist because they will spend it slowly buying stuff from vendors or restaurants that can not identify the fake bills.
And the Chinese Thai ( Are the cleverest and dishonest businessman ) mostly own the money changing business and the gold shops business handle large quantities of cash, can easily move large quantities of fake bills.
And since when you trust the Thai police estimate ? 0.5% ???? In every large shops if you give a 1000 baht bill they look and check the bill carefully including all 7 elevens, not only in Bangkok also in Isan, I believe the number should be more than 1 in 200.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]So in my previous virtual report, I told you about three girls with whom I have managed to establish regular 'chat' contact. Girl #1 is giving me plenty of visual feasting without any emotional or financial demands. Some of you speculated that she is either truly into me (which I suspect is NOT the case), or that she is laying the groundwork for my future return. I think this latter scenario is far more likely. She knows I will be coming back, but she does not know exactly when. And in the meantime, this is a fun little diversion for her.
The other two, on the other hand, are totally different. Coincidentally, on Monday, they both dropped the L-bomb on me. Both conversations were humorously similar.
'Tilak...can I tell you something, you not get angli? Can I tell you something, make me think too much? Tilak, I lub you. I don't know why, I neeeever feel like this before, I no understand, but I lub you.'
They both said almost the same thing, delivering the line in almost the same manner. Now, perhaps being an ISG member has made me super cynical, or perhaps I have a good grasp on reality, or whatever, but this just didn't sound right to me.
I, of course, did not reciprocate with the I Lub You BS. I may be a lot of things, but I try not to lie to these girls. Yes, that's true - if they ask me an embarrassing question, like how many girls have you been with in the last month, or have you ever failed to get it up, I usually tell them the truth, simply because my memory is not good enough to keep track of who I lied to and the details of each lie. So I just stick to the truth as much as I can, and avoid those 'Gotcha!' moments when she figures out I am full of shit. So I just didn't respond to their claims for love, and they both seemed to be unsurprised, and in fact seemed to have an air of determination about them.
So the fact that these two both dropped the L-bomb at the same time, *on the very same day*, in very similar ways, makes me very suspicious. But they have both been kind of that way from the beginning, so I knew exactly what I was getting into. I considered the possibility that they are actually working together, but this seems highly unlikely since one of them works in Pattaya, the other in BKK. But it's possible.
Girl #1, on the other hand, continues her flight into ephemeral beauty. Yesterday when I as done with the two love girls, I logged on to chat with Girl #1, and she asked me what my favorite color is. I told her I don't have one, and she said that she thinks it is siisuhmpoo (pink). I laughed, and asked her why siishuhmpoo, and she opened her legs and pointed down to the panty-less crotch and said 'siishuhmpooooooooo'. You gotta love it.[/QUOTE]Buddy I have to say I love your style. You are a bit of a casanova but your heart is in the right place. I've just broken up with someone and reading your report has cheered me up and made tomorrow more bearable. Look forward to your report.
[QUOTE=Love Sex 22]But this bills where brand new...[/QUOTE]
I asked a bar girl about this issue, and she told me: "This farang thinks too much! He can give me this money, if fake, no problem, I fake orgasm too! Anyway, I will use his money to buy fake boobs!" :D
[QUOTE=Rocky Power]...and reading your report has cheered me up and made tomorrow more bearable. Look forward to your report.[/QUOTE]I'm glad to hear it. [QUOTE=Rocky Power] I've just broken up with someone...[/QUOTE]I assume this means you are assiduously searching travel sites for cheap tickets back to LOS, yah? You lose one, precious as she may have been, so you go on a week long fuck binge to cure the blues. Take two (dozen) pussies and call me in the morning. That's Dr. Kumbu's prescription for you.
[QUOTE=Goyave]I asked a bar girl about this issue, and she told me: "This farang thinks too much! He can give me this money, if fake, no problem, I fake orgasm too! Anyway, I will use his money to buy fake boobs!" :D[/QUOTE]
At the same time she can buy some fake gold from the gold shop and pay her Thai boy friend with the fake bills then he will throw her out to the streets she can come to me for some real bills.....
I do not know about the fake orgasm part but I frequently have a bill or bills rejected by the deposit machines. I have several Kasikorn Savings accounts in different zones. I feed them from ATM withdrawals from a fee free (USA Side) ATM card (cheaper than a wire) from a Kasikorn ATM and then turn right around to deposit the baht into the Kasikorn account. Nearly every time one or two bills are rejected at the deposit machine.
[QUOTE=Goyave]I asked a bar girl about this issue, and she told me: "This farang thinks too much! He can give me this money, if fake, no problem, I fake orgasm too! Anyway, I will use his money to buy fake boobs!" :D[/QUOTE]
When I first starting traveling to Thailand, there was an expat photographer named Patrick Gauvain who produced and sold "Shrimp" calendars.
Does anyone know if 2010 or 2011 calendars are available, or even old ones that are available on the web? I have searched diligently but could not find any recent information.
Thanks, Bule2004
I am at the airport take the airport link train it is free until end of Aug it run from 6 AM to 10 AM and 4 pm to 7 pm ,I take the BTS from Nana to Phaya thai station cost 30 bht and connect to airport link the whole trip take only 50 min but if you have alot of luggage it is better to just take the taxi.
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Bule2004]When I first starting traveling to Thailand, there was an expat photographer named Patrick Gauvain who produced and sold "Shrimp" calendars.
Does anyone know if 2010 or 2011 calendars are available, or even old ones that are available on the web? I have searched diligently but could not find any recent information.
Thanks, Bule2004[/QUOTE]Shrimp was fantastic. Loved his stuff but haven't seen any of the goods for a long time. Chiang Mai rumormill had it that he got into trouble messing with the wrong, supposedly "naive", hilltribe girls around Doi Chang some years back.
He did like to shoot and be involved with the spanking stuff, and the word was that he himself had finally gotten spanked back by the Thai authorities (but then worked his way out of it.)
Here is where he is doing his thing now: [url]http://www.shrimp-asia.com/new/index.html[/url] Send him an email.
Just to jog your memory:
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]I am at the airport take the airport link train it is free until end of Aug it run from 6 AM to 10 AM and 4 pm to 7 pm ,I take the BTS from Nana to Phaya thai station cost 30 bht and connect to airport link the whole trip take only 50 min but if you have alot of luggage it is better to just take the taxi.
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
How often does it run?
Hi Gentlemen,
I have been asked by another author to do a bit of research for a novel she is writing. In the story one of the characters is captured and narrowly escapes being sold into sex slavery. The author is looking for realistic accounts of such happenings to help make the scene work. So she is looking for accounts that mention conditions faced, geographical locations (i.e. certain cities) and the types of people who do this sort of thing. Hopefully the accounts will not be too sensationalistic and be as real as possible.
I realize that this is a sensitive topic and let me assure you that my author friend has no ax to grind against mongers in general. She knows that many of us are decent law abiding perverts ( she is a good friend and supporter of my writing about the hobby) who would have nothing to do with such goings on except to report it if we saw it. But she also wants to bring some realism to the scene.
Of course I will be doing my own web search for such tales but I though that some of you here might be able to point me towards something interesting. Please contact me here or if you wish, via pm.
Thanks in advance
AM
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi Gentlemen,
I have been asked by another author to do a bit of research for a novel she is writing. In the story one of the characters is captured and narrowly escapes being sold into sex slavery. The author is looking for realistic accounts of such happenings to help make the scene work. So she is looking for accounts that mention conditions faced, geographical locations (i.e. certain cities) and the types of people who do this sort of thing. Hopefully the accounts will not be too sensationalistic and be as real as possible.
I realize that this is a sensitive topic and let me assure you that my author friend has no ax to grind against mongers in general. She knows that many of us are decent law abiding perverts ( she is a good friend and supporter of my writing about the hobby) who would have nothing to do with such goings on except to report it if we saw it. But she also wants to bring some realism to the scene.
Of course I will be doing my own web search for such tales but I though that some of you here might be able to point me towards something interesting. Please contact me here or if you wish, via pm.
Thanks in advance
AM[/QUOTE]
I read some stories on CNN about the Dutch guy, name escapes me right now, that murdered the girl is South America and is suspected of the murder in Aruba, that he was involved in trafficking. There were some details in there about it.
Angus, check out the movie "TAKEN", with Liam Neeson.
Yes, it's a hollywood movie, but very scary stuff. If I had a teenage daughter, I would sit her down in front of that movie, and ask her to watch it 10 times.
5 years ago, my teenage niece thought it would be great fun to hitch hike from France, to Asia. I strongly suggested she was crazy. she decided against it.
[QUOTE=Booey]I read some stories on CNN about the Dutch guy, name escapes me right now, that murdered the girl is South America and is suspected of the murder in Aruba, that he was involved in trafficking. There were some details in there about it.[/QUOTE]Johan Van Der Sloot. He is in prison in Peru awaiting a trial right now.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]How often does it run?[/QUOTE]To Amjeck,
I think every 10-15 min from airport to phaya thai station take about 25 min about 6 stop very fast and 5 min walk to BTS station .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=1Ball]Angus, check out the movie "TAKEN", with Liam Neeson.
Yes, it's a hollywood movie, but very scary stuff. If I had a teenage daughter, I would sit her down in front of that movie, and ask her to watch it 10 times.
5 years ago, my teenage niece thought it would be great fun to hitch hike from France, to Asia. I strongly suggested she was crazy. she decided against it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I saw it awhile back. I think I will show it to my 13 year old daughter who is trying to run a muck right now.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Thanks for the advice. I saw it awhile back. I think I will show it to my 13 year old daughter who is trying to run a muck right now.[/QUOTE]
Although this is only a movie and fiction, the story line is true and it's not only the Russians doing things like this! Google you will find the Japanese, Chinese, Mala, Cambodia, Mafia etc...very similar. Human trafficing! and they love that white meat!
Yes, it is scary? remember when we were young we thought we knew everything! How do we explain to them times have really change? In the movie and I heard something like this before the father had 24/48 hours after that his daughter was gone forever and only because he was trained CIA? that he had the resources to find her.
Even in Thailand, I worry about my young son, they raise them so different here and I watch him like a hawk and he is eleven now and I'm having a hard time letting him go? Just last week, a the newly open park a few months ago lots of adults and kids and a small boy was kidnapped! Now park empty! As a regular person how do we begin to find them once they are gone? We aren't Saints but we come here to monger but many come here to monger for small boys and girls!
LBM
Thanks guys for the info. I have also found some pretty interesting stuff with my own search. It is kind of shocking really. In fact one report I have read dealt with the buying and selling of girls in Haiti (pre earthquake but it could only get worse) and found that the price of buying a human being has dropped considerably since the days of the slave trade from Africa. That is, in those days a slave was a pretty hefty investment for a person to make. There was also a certain amount of responsibility, perhaps due to the high investment, in ownership. These days it is possible to buy a human for as little as $50 US!
This planet can be a brutal place. I guess that all one can do really is take care of one's own relationship with these things. I have for a long time felt that a more open attitude with regard the buying and selling of sexual services helps to discourage trafficking. That is, if there is less criminality involved the girls will be more fairly treated and end up with the cash in their own pockets and bank accounts. But I also know it is not as simple as this. For it to be open, the girls themselves must be open and this is not always possible.
Anyway, thanks again for the info.
AM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Yes, it is scary? remember when we were young we thought we knew everything! How do we explain to them times have really change? In the movie and I heard something like this before the father had 24/48 hours after that his daughter was gone forever and only because he was trained CIA? that he had the resources to find her.
Even in Thailand, I worry about my young son, they raise them so different here and I watch him like a hawk and he is eleven now and I'm having a hard time letting him go? Just last week, a the newly open park a few months ago lots of adults and kids and a small boy was kidnapped! Now park empty! As a regular person how do we begin to find them once they are gone? We aren't Saints but we come here to monger but many come here to monger for small boys and girls!
LBM[/QUOTE]
I feel one really has to practice what I call fear management. That is, yes these things happen, and it is possible that they happen to you. But really, how likely is it? Fear breeds fear. This is a fact. One need only look at the over all fear climate in the USA to see the truth in this. To me the worse sort of criminal is the one who would use this fear to feather their own nests. Let's face it, Hollywood is great at doing this. (The TV show "24" is a great example of this with regard to international terrorism)
Having not seen this particular film I can not comment on it. But I think in telling such a tale one treads a very thin line between making it a sensationalistic tale that breeds further fear, and making a good film that educates and entertains. One really has to look at why do we as a species look to such tales for entertainment? My guess is that on some level we enjoy the identification with such tragedy and learn a little from it without having to go through it ourselves. I hope this is the case.
In practical terms I think all one can do,if one has children, I try to speak openly about these things. First manage your own fears about it (get a grip on them so you do not scare the hell out of the kids) then speak openly with the kids about the actual danger, not your imagined scenarios. Stay involved with them everyday and keep an eye on their on line activity.
I am sure it is not easy.
If one has no children then one need simply to care for them and look after them in what ever way one can-as if they were your own. Be alert to the situation (at a playground for instance) without giving into fears or paranoid flights of fancy.
Again, not easy but doable.
AM
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]She knows that many of us are decent law abiding perverts[/QUOTE]That's a good one, LOL :-)-)-)
[QUOTE=1Ball]Angus, check out the movie "TAKEN", with Liam Neeson.
Yes, it's a hollywood movie, but very scary stuff. If I had a teenage daughter, I would sit her down in front of that movie, and ask her to watch it 10 times.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the suggestion. It looks good and I will check it out.
[QUOTE=1Ball]5 years ago, my teenage niece thought it would be great fun to hitch hike from France, to Asia. I strongly suggested she was crazy. she decided against it.[/QUOTE]
I had a good chuckle at this, then a cringe and then admire the young ladies perhaps misguided spirit. If she has the impulse again send her to talk with Old Angus who himself hitched from Amsterdam to India back in the '70s. I could tell her a few stories about Turkish truckers trying to get into the pants of the young Aussie girl, with whom I travelled for a while, as he tried to convince me to hide his porn collection in my backpack as we travelled through then Yugoslavia. And he was one of the tamer characters I met.
Definitely not a good idea for anyone, especially a young lady, to try this now a days.
AM
Although not the same situation.... just take a look at the situation with the three hikers that are still being held by Iran! In which one of them is a women. These days certainly aren't the same when we were growing up! Nowadays it not safe unless you are armed to the teeth, even then there is always someone else with a bigger gun. Women as independent as they are today unless they are superwomen is no match or has enough strength if a guy wants to do harm to them. Just my manly opinion!
LBM
Planning a trip to BKK and Pattaya. Not wanting to bring back pictures on a disc stick or stored on my laptop or cameras hard drive. Anyone use a website to upload pics to before heading home?
[QUOTE=Figures]Planning a trip to BKK and Pattaya. Not wanting to bring back pictures on a disc stick or stored on my laptop or cameras hard drive. Anyone use a website to upload pics to before heading home?[/QUOTE]If you have a Yahoo! Mail account, you'll have a ZumoDrive.com account (otherwise, signup is a snap). ZD gives you up to 2GB of free space.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Figures]Planning a trip to BKK and Pattaya. Not wanting to bring back pictures on a disc stick or stored on my laptop or cameras hard drive. Anyone use a website to upload pics to before heading home?[/QUOTE]
Flickr, friendster or just create an email account to store them.
[quote=run mann]flickr, friendster or just create an email account to store them.[/quote]
agree with that, except that sending an email with a sizable (> 1 gb) attachment or upliading same to flickr will take a looong time, given the low upload speeds of your (hotel) internet connection.
the other alternative is to use a usb stick.
take care to encrypt the file using pgp or truecrypt.
caveat: us customs have been known to confirep001e encrypted material, including the complete laptop! there are reports on that in this forum.
[quote=daddy san]agree with that, except that sending an email with a sizable (> 1 gb) attachment or upliading same to flickr will take a looong time, given the low upload speeds of your (hotel) internet connection.
the other alternative is to use a usb stick.
take care to encrypt the file using pgp or truecrypt.
caveat: us customs have been known to confirep001e encrypted material, including the complete laptop! there are reports on that in this forum.[/quote]
he did say he did not want store his pictures on a (disk) stick but if you email or upload about 10 pics per email instead of 1gig at a time it will turn out to be faster. i've been using yahoo and hotmail email accounts to store my pictures for years now, never had a problem with them.
[quote=figures]planning a trip to bkk and pattaya. not wanting to bring back pictures on a disc stick or stored on my laptop or cameras hard drive. anyone use a website to upload pics to before heading home?[/quote]use winzip or winrar to compress multiple amounts of media files, you can password protect the zipped files as you create them.
you say you don't own your own ftp? ("free" ftp sucks, as does buggy gspace. not recommended.) you can just email your files to yourself via gmail, 25mb at a time. it's totally free. (my pics are normally 3-4mb each, so gmail isn't really practical at all for me at all though.)
better yet, get an account at "hotfile-dot-com" $9usd/1month or $35/6mo. then, you can create zips that are 100mb (or a lot more depending on the speed of your internet connection in thailand) and upload to your heart's content. (you aren't strapped to any contracts or anything, just one month you can store 100 gb. simply pay with paypal.)
either way, you can just download at your leisure when you get home (without worries.)
[QUOTE=Barko]
Just to jog your memory:[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Barko, my memory is definitely jogged!
Bule2004
I'm returning to BKK this Sept. In the past I've used a prepaid Dtac sim card in my plain old mobile phone. Now I have an unlocked iphone. What are my options for a sim cards with prepaid voice/data?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Ivanba]I'm returning to BKK this Sept. In the past I've used a prepaid Dtac sim card in my plain old mobile phone. Now I have an unlocked iphone. What are my options for a sim cards with prepaid voice/data?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
I believe that the I Phone4 uses a mini SIM card. You may want to check that out. Bring your old mobile just in case.
[QUOTE=Figures]Planning a trip to BKK and Pattaya. Not wanting to bring back pictures on a disc stick or stored on my laptop or cameras hard drive. Anyone use a website to upload pics to before heading home?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://rapidshare.com/index.html[/url]
[url]http://rapidshare.com/premium.html[/url]
Create an account with them, upload, download when at home, delete them afterwards and you are done.
They are the biggest ones.
Yes, I think its called micro sim or something. Regular sized sims work - you just have to trim them down with a razor.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]I believe that the I Phone4 uses a mini SIM card. You may want to check that out. Bring your old mobile just in case.[/QUOTE]
....out there. Tarzan is every where
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_thailand_american_murdered[/url]
Would know anyone know if the cost of DSLR cameras/lens are cheaper in BKK? If so please reply back with recommend shops.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mauldid]Would know anyone know if the cost of DSLR cameras/lens are cheaper in BKK? If so please reply back with recommend shops.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
No, they are not cheaper. You also have to worry more about quality.
[QUOTE=Mauldid]Would know anyone know if the cost of DSLR cameras/lens are cheaper in BKK? If so please reply back with recommend shops.Thanks[/QUOTE]More expensive. Foto File in MBK Mall is a good shop. They often have items on special and back up their sales with service. They clean sensors for free while you wait.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]More expensive. Foto File in MBK Mall is a good shop. They often have items on special and back up their sales with service. They clean sensors for free while you wait.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.
Looking for a travel agency to process my visa to hanoi. Any recommendation? Can the visa be obtained within 2-3 days with them? Any info will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
I will be in BKK and will be short on time. I want to take taxi to Aranyaprathet/ Poipet and then off to Siem Reap.
Can anyone suggest a taxi company for going from BKK to the border?
Thanks and happy hunting
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]I will be in BKK and will be short on time. I want to take taxi to Aranyaprathet/ Poipet and then off to Siem Reap.
Can anyone suggest a taxi company for going from BKK to the border?
Thanks and happy hunting[/QUOTE]
I've used this company at least 8 times in the last 2 years, and they've always been clean, reliable, and safe. I've only used them from Bangkok to Pattaya, and the airport to Pattaya and back, but their website says they service every part of the country. Highly recommended.
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
My idea of a perfect session is something like find a lady, taking her out for dinner, then going out disco dancing or bar hopping or something the whole night, before going back to hotel (and preferably dumping her the next day and on to the next one). I've had tons of success at this in places like Mexico, COlombia, DR, and Philippines, but strangely not Thailand where most of ladies have struck me as more cold and mercenary on a rush to leave, and I never truly hit it off with them (mainly talking Cowboy/Nana ladies).
Any advice on best place to arrange such sessions?
Is Bangkok or Pattaya better for this?
Would something like this be pretty standard template for LT session from bar girl or do they mainly just want to go back to hotel?
fred - just one word FLY!!
[QUOTE=Mauldid]Looking for a travel agency to process my visa to hanoi. Any recommendation? Can the visa be obtained within 2-3 days with them? Any info will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Simply go to their consulate offices in the morning with your passport and one (maybe two?) photos, fill up the form, pay them 1.800 baht for their express service and get your one month visa within the next day or two.
Very easy procedure. I did that last February. Make sure not to arrive even one day earlier at Hanoi than the visa states otherwise they will deny entry. Later no problem, earlier no entry into the country. So I heard.
Embassy of Vietnam in Bangkok, THAILAND
Address: 83/1 Wireless Road, Lumpini, Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330, THAILAND
Phone: (662) 267 9602
Fax: (662) 254 4630
Email: [email]vnembtl@asianet.co.th[/email]
Note: Office hours for public: 8h30 - 11h30 ; 13h30 -16h30 from Monday to Friday (Except Vietnamese and Thai public holidays)
It is very near Chitlom SKYTRAIN station and opposite the USA embassy.
Thailand’s transport ministry has approved a THB63bn ($2bn) expansion plan for Suvarnabhumi International Airport in Bangkok. The investment will fund a second passenger terminal as well as new offices and additional parking; however, plans to create a third runway have been postponed. The six-year project is expected to boost the airport’s capacity from 45 million to 60 million passengers per year.
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Thailand’s transport ministry has approved a THB63bn ($2bn) expansion plan for Suvarnabhumi International Airport in Bangkok. The investment will fund a second passenger terminal as well as new offices and additional parking; however, plans to create a third runway have been postponed. The six-year project is expected to boost the airport’s capacity from 45 million to 60 million passengers per year.[/QUOTE]
Lots of posters on this, and on various Philippines threads have asked about the differences between Thailand and the Philippines. Here's one difference. The Thais can build an entire new airport, and then expand it, in less time that the Philippines can construct, open and fully utilize one new terminal.
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Lots of posters on this, and on various Philippines threads have asked about the differences between Thailand and the Philippines. Here's one difference. The Thais can build an entire new airport, and then expand it, in less time that the Philippines can construct, open and fully utilize one new terminal.
GE[/QUOTE]
I'll believe it when I see it...how long did it take to build the rail link and BTS expansion?
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Thailand’s transport ministry has approved a THB63bn ($2bn) expansion plan for Suvarnabhumi International Airport in Bangkok. The investment will fund a second passenger terminal as well as new offices and additional parking; however, plans to create a third runway have been postponed. The six-year project is expected to boost the airport’s capacity from 45 million to 60 million passengers per year.[/QUOTE]Hope they'll make it more beautiful than the present one which is particularly ugly, especially for Thailand.
It's been a while since I'v been to LOS. When you check-in to your hotel you need a passport-right? Do they keep the passport or make a copy and return it to you?
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]It's been a while since I'v been to LOS. When you check-in to your hotel you need a passport-right? Do they keep the passport or make a copy and return it to you? thx[/QUOTE]Copy. Thais like to copy things...[i]most everything![/i]
Smokers and Litterbugs in Bangkok be warned that there is now a Cigarette [i]Police[/i] Squad enforcing the no littering law in the city with some hefty fines. They seem to be targeting Falangs so take notice.
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/193476/bangkok-cigarette-police[/url]
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]It's been a while since I'v been to LOS. When you check-in to your hotel you need a passport-right? Do they keep the passport or make a copy and return it to you? Thanks[/QUOTE]To Fred,
They just need a copy I alway made a few copy before my trip and carry one copy with you at all time.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Blourghus]My idea of a perfect session is something like find a lady, taking her out for dinner, then going out disco dancing or bar hopping or something the whole night, before going back to hotel (and preferably dumping her the next day and on to the next one). I've had tons of success at this in places like Mexico, COlombia, DR, and Philippines, but strangely not Thailand where most of ladies have struck me as more cold and mercenary on a rush to leave, and I never truly hit it off with them (mainly talking Cowboy/Nana ladies).
Any advice on best place to arrange such sessions?
Is Bangkok or Pattaya better for this?
Would something like this be pretty standard template for LT session from bar girl or do they mainly just want to go back to hotel?[/QUOTE]Thailand is very hit or miss when it comes to getting this type of experience. My strategy has usually been to scope out women for a night and see who has energy and a connection with me and mention that the next day I'd like to come early and take them out for the night. I try to read body language to see if they're interested. If I don't get a good vibe I move on. You'll also have better luck with the less popular women as the popular ones prefer short time so they can come back to the bar for more.
If money is no object, you can take out a girl from a g-club like Pent or St. Moritz but it will cost you a lot and is usually better if you're going to be in BKK for awhile and have deep pockets. I've had some wild night outs with g-club women but it was expensive.
As for Bangkok vs. Pattaya -- you'll probably have better luck in Pattaya with a girl who really wants to party and things are open later which helps, but for me the Pattaya scene isn't my thing.
Halnase.
Problems are :
Currency, the baht is appreciating faster than any other Asian currency, in a couple of weeks it will be 29 baht to the dollar, perhaps by December it will be 28 to the dollar.
Everything is getting more and more expensive and spending by visitors is reducing.
Safety, more and more bombs are going off or being found and disarmed in and around Bangkok. It is said this will get worse as the present dictatorship continues to abuse its power.
Most tourists will get turned off of Thailand by firstly the fact their money is getting weaker and weaker and the holiday is getting more and more expensive and secondly, its the normal Thai way that if business goes down they raise the prices to get the same money from less volume, and therefore this is a double whammy impact on pricing being raised.
[QUOTE=Halnase]What's the current situation in Thailand these days? Specially in Bangkok? Is it safe for a tourist to go there? Just opened the website for World Central Plaza Mall & they said its closed due the to political issues!
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Hi Halnase,
We have an established thread for discussing politics in Thailand:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2526[/url]
I would very much appreciate it if you would consider re-posting your question in this specifically-designated political thread.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The Pro]Currency, the baht is appreciating faster than any other Asian currency[/QUOTE]Nah, not as fast as either the yen or the ringgit. And of course it's really more a fall of the dollar than a rise of our local currencies.
[QUOTE] . . . in a couple of weeks it will be 29 baht to the dollar, perhaps by December it will be 28 to the dollar.[/QUOTE]It's only up 7.6% on the dollar so far this year and you think it's going up another 8% by yearend? Doubt it.
Thailand's getting pricey, no question. Ah well, maybe it'll help keep the riffraff out.
[QUOTE=Sainter21]I'll believe it when I see it...how long did it take to build the rail link and BTS expansion?[/QUOTE]Exactly, the Airport express Is only now being officially open, wouldn't hold your breath how long a new terminal will take, remember the problems they had with the runway before Swampy opened lol.
So after arriving in Pattaya internet has been spotty here so went and bought a usb connector for mobile internet, a Truemove sim, and 600 thb in airtime. I haven't been able to activate it and after talking to someone at Tukcom he said it won't work for internet only phone. Said I could call and get it converted or something but couldn't understand part of what he said. Did I buy the wrong sim or could someone give me directions on what to do?
Thanks for any help.
Gentlemen,
Please allow me to ask you a question. I supose that you've already discussed this in past pages but I want to know the opinion of Thai experts here.
1) I heard that Russian/ukrainian girls are more and more hookin' in Pattaya and it's neighborhood. Is this eastern europe 'invasion' true?
2) Among thai girls we can find anal sex easily? What kind of fetish sex (CIM, anal, special clothes, gangbangs, etc) do they do more naturally?
Thanks in advance,
Cheers from Brazil!
Trelele
[QUOTE=Trelele]1) I heard that Russian/ukrainian girls are more and more hookin' in Pattaya and it's neighborhood. Is this eastern europe 'invasion' true?[/QUOTE]
They are there...hardly an invasion...more expensive than caviar!
[QUOTE=Trelele]2) Among thai girls we can find anal sex easily? What kind of fetish sex (CIM, anal, special clothes, gangbangs, etc) do they do more naturally?[/QUOTE]
Uniforms yes yes CIM yes Anal yes/no gangbang u like my sister too? Or go to fetish clubs like the Castle, Secret Motions, DD
[quote=cartos]so after arriving in pattaya internet has been spotty here so went and bought a usb connector for mobile internet, a truemove sim, and 600 thb in airtime. i haven't been able to activate it and after talking to someone at tukcom he said it won't work for internet only phone. said i could call and get it converted or something but couldn't understand part of what he said. did i buy the wrong sim or could someone give me directions on what to do[/quote]
did you sign up for their hi-speed pack? (dial *9000)
[url]http://www.truemove.com/en/banner-wifi-edge-gprs-pre.html[/url]
quote from an old buddy: messenger pigeons are faster than true.
I report this as it may be of interest if you are thinking of doing business here.
Consider a typical Patong Beach guest house of 3 floors plus lobby (in this case the lobby is also used as internet cafe, but without any succes). It has (I think) 15 rooms available to rent), I estimate it to be 600 sqm.
Brand new building of some quality. Purchased late 2009 for THB 18M (USD 600,000, that is 1 grand per square meter). Down payment was approx 5M, 13M loan (30yr, probably fixed approx 7.5%) Monthly payment 90,500. Meaning you need a daily of 3,000 only to break even to mortgage. Currently, she is not making that, so still bleeding money into it. WIll the future / high season be better? Buddha only knows.
The interesting human aspect is better understood with the following, I show to the owner how she will repay 32M THB to the bank over the lenght of the loan. She takes the calculator and cannot get to the same result, she was forgetting there are 12 months in a year. I am astonished how a single mom without english and previous hotel experience, dared to take such a big risk that can easiliy wipe our all her savings forever. I would not ever do that, not even in my wildest expat dreams, not even with a 3% loan.
Now guess who made the best deal here (beside the bank). Easy, someone had bought the land with whatever old dwelling for say 3M or 4M, built three floors for 9M, resold for 18M, pocketed 6M to the expense of an hard-working, long-term thinking woman.
Do this 10 times a year, and I start to understand how some Thai men drive around in latest model Audis, and party to the tune of 8,000 THB champagne bottles at the discos where falangs don't belong.
[QUOTE=Trelele]1) I heard that Russian/ukrainian girls are more and more hookin' in Pattaya and it's neighborhood. Is this eastern europe 'invasion' true?[/quote]
As luckyguy points out these Russian types are very rare and expensive. No invasion at all. You will see quite a few Russian tourists, but that's of no help.
[QUOTE=Trelele]2) Among thai girls we can find anal sex easily? What kind of fetish sex (CIM, anal, special clothes, gangbangs, etc) do they do more naturally?[/QUOTE]
CIM is probably not difficult to find, though I've only ever done it at blow job bars. Anal I always look for, but it is not commonplace - basically the women who are over 30 are fairly likely to provide it (maybe 30-40%), a few of the 25-30 can (say 10%), and among the young cuties under 25 it is a great rarity (maybe 1%). It stands to reason as its a way for the less desirable old girls to find a customer - young cuties have plenty of customers so there's no reason to bother with painful extras. Special clothes I'm sure would be no problem, but gangbangs (multiple guy) would definitely depend on the girl - some might be frightened if you spring that on them the first time. However multiple girl will be no problem for nearly all.
[QUOTE=Betong]Nah, not as fast as either the yen or the ringgit. And of course it's really more a fall of the dollar than a rise of our local currencies.
It's only up 7.6% on the dollar so far this year and you think it's going up another 8% by yearend? Doubt it.
[/QUOTE]
But it's up 20% to the Euro on a yearly basis. With all the adjustments and considerations you can make. it was screaming buy me one year ago, and still is to some extent.
[QUOTE=Opebo]As luckyguy points out these Russian types are very rare and expensive. No invasion at all. You will see quite a few Russian tourists, but that's of no help.
[/QUOTE]
Don't be so sure, I had a pretty Russian blowing kisses to me (!!!) at Mixx just a week ago. Could have been bored or drunk or whatelse, only the fact she had a partner prevented a closer contact
[QUOTE=Betong]Thailand's getting pricey, no question. Ah well, maybe it'll help keep the riffraff out.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps just the opposite - we'll be seeing even more Americans, Canadians, British, etc. coming here looking for jobs, now that there aren't any back there.
[QUOTE=Opebo]Perhaps just the opposite - we'll be seeing even more Americans, Canadians, British, etc. coming here looking for jobs, now that there aren't any back there.[/QUOTE]They can look for work, but the hard part is finding it now that there are already so many expats here. Seems like every other day I meet guys who would love to live here but just can't get a decent job.
I sit bored in the room without anything better than to watch music channels, and make some considerations about Western and Asian artists.
They pass the latest video by J. big butts Ho, the executive summary about it is that she beats the shit out of male dancers in such an artistic manner. To me, that is a symbolism of what we wanted and let happen with our women in the western world.
Another great artistic example is Lady Gagging, where to really appreciate all her talent, you better be a neurotic fetishistic tri-sexual.
Then we have these Asian fresh productions like Two different tears and few others. All what they seem to convey is the image of fun-loving girls, that like to tease, dress nice and (by extension) be good in bed with a boy of their liking, that doesn't even need to have 3,000 different qualities of which the most important is the bug bucks.
Sorry J.Ho, I hope at some point more men will realize how much you suck ass, and you will have to drag your huge butts outside our TV screens for good.
Opebo and Luckyguy,
Thanks a lot my friends!
If you have any curiosity about Brazil. Feel free to ask!
Cheers,
Trelele
I often see something that I have a problem assimilating.
That is, the many Western men dragging behind old, ugly, poorly dressed Thai women.
OK, I understand the basics, these are probably low maintenance, patient, submissive companions. And, we don't all have the same standards in beauty.
But, let's be honest, where exactly is the "visual" part with them when it comes to sex? That one has to be blindfolded? And considering they most often have little or zero English, where is the companionship side of the deal ?
I have the most explicit example at my guesthouse. One 42 years woman without anything of attractive, framed a same age German that calls her every night, and they go over lengthy conversations made of nothing, as she only knows the following words "me take care, ok" ? and "same same". Of course I do not see her ever trying to imporve her English, all what she do is eat and talk on the cellphone.
I know he sends her money, for what exactly escapes me, prevent her to go to the bar? The only job she could get at the bar would be cleaning it.
She even tried to make a deal with me where after my scooter rental expires, I would have to take over her rental, in exchange I could have used the motorbike anytime, and so do her. At least that is what I understood, as she could not really express herself. Amazing proposition, I would have laughed if it came from a pretty girl, but we are talking janitorial quality here.
Now, there tens of thousands of interesting ladies out there, some are old, some are young, some have great English, some fucks well, some are not prostitutes and some are even funny to be with . Every man wanting a long term relationship should be able to find a decent combination, with a little patience and luck, why they stick instead with the bottom 5% ?
I finish my rant with one final motivation why that is bad. Thai women, of course, do act by others example, what this means, the more old fucks get a sponsor, the more "same same" ones will get into the arena to try to get a piece of cake. I would rather see young and / or hotties doing that please ?
[QUOTE=New Old Guy]I often see something that I have a problem assimilating.
That is, the many Western men dragging behind old, ugly, poorly dressed Thai women.
OK, I understand the basics, these are probably low maintenance, patient, submissive companions. And, we don't all have the same standards in beauty.
But, let's be honest, where exactly is the "visual" part with them when it comes to sex? That one has to be blindfolded? And considering they most often have little or zero English, where is the companionship side of the deal ?
I have the most explicit example at my guesthouse. One 42 years woman without anything of attractive, framed a same age German that calls her every night, and they go over lengthy conversations made of nothing, as she only knows the following words "me take care, ok" ? and "same same". Of course I do not see her ever trying to imporve her English, all what she do is eat and talk on the cellphone.
I know he sends her money, for what exactly escapes me, prevent her to go to the bar? The only job she could get at the bar would be cleaning it.
She even tried to make a deal with me where after my scooter rental expires, I would have to take over her rental, in exchange I could have used the motorbike anytime, and so do her. At least that is what I understood, as she could not really express herself. Amazing proposition, I would have laughed if it came from a pretty girl, but we are talking janitorial quality here.
Now, there tens of thousands of interesting ladies out there, some are old, some are young, some have great English, some fucks well, some are not prostitutes and some are even funny to be with . Every man wanting a long term relationship should be able to find a decent combination, with a little patience and luck, why they stick instead with the bottom 5% ?
I finish my rant with one final motivation why that is bad. Thai women, of course, do act by others example, what this means, the more old fucks get a sponsor, the more "same same" ones will get into the arena to try to get a piece of cake. I would rather see young and / or hotties doing that please ?[/QUOTE]I have seen a similar situation to this myself. My head shakes in disbelief. In my outside view of this nightmarish scene, the woman is a nasty slag (bi tch got edited. So make it biotch. Creds to my Black brothers) in addition and continually berates the guy and tells him what to do. The man comes into my condo to ask a question and she tries to steal a bottle of whiskey! The guy is a millionaire many times over (confirmed by some translation service I did for him as a favor on personal documents). Spends a fortune on her. She is an elderly, nasty, ugly biotch. Go figure? I have thought about this and believe it has something to do with low self image on the guy's part. Because even if she is a great sex partner and does whatever turns him on. He needs some mental health care for this act alone.
I am looking for the finest buffet in Bangkok.
What is your recommentation?
Maybe Orchid Cafe at Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit?
[QUOTE=Travel Spirit]I am looking for the finest buffet in Bangkok.
What is your recommentation?
Maybe Orchid Cafe at Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit?[/QUOTE]
I like both the Marriott (Suk) and the Orientals Sunday brunch/buffet.
[QUOTE=Booey]I like both the Marriott (Suk) and the Orientals Sunday brunch/buffet.[/QUOTE]
The Oriental buffet is really extraordinary. It is on my top ten list of last meals before I die. You should try it at least once even though it is très beaucoup expensive.
At the other end of the spectrum, I like the weekend lunch buffet served by Bussaracum. It is all Thai, delicious, and quite reasonably priced. Can I post the web address?
[url]http://www.bussaracum.com/thailandbuffetrestaurant.html#[/url]
[QUOTE=Travel Spirit]I am looking for the finest buffet in Bangkok.
What is your recommentation?
Maybe Orchid Cafe at Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit?[/QUOTE]Buffet normal breakfast? Or Sunday Buffet Brunch?
For playboys with their Thai cuties, the brunch the Sheraton is defintely impressive, 17 types of REAL bread, an equal amount of pastries, dynamite dim-sum, lots of salmon dishes, several beef/pork/chicken selections, and check out that cheese board. Two different kinds of orange juice, along with many others, and the coffee is xlnt. No attitude from the wait staff if you are draggin' a ho' there either.
If we are talking a real for real Sunday brunch, leave the ho' with her homies and simply head on over to the Four Seasons, (best martini in town?) grilled giant shrimp, king crab, Alaskan halibut, rack of lamb, Harris Ranch steaks, etc. The shitake mushroom risotto is out of this world, and the foie gras to die for. Superb wine list and incredibly cool atmosphere. 2350++ Baht pp, and freakin' damn well worth it. Take me with you. :D
[QUOTE=Travel Spirit]I am looking for the finest buffet in Bangkok.
What is your recommentation?
Maybe Orchid Cafe at Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit?[/QUOTE]You do all the night hunting and action in the room. So basically your awake full night.
(at least I was)
So never had a chance to eat my free buffet breakfast most of the days. May be you can eat breakfast and then retire.
[QUOTE=Barko]2350++ Baht pp, and...worth it.[/QUOTE]Sorry , no amount of bacon and eggs are worth $80
Interesting article in the Bangkok Post today about a proposed increase in the minimum wage, presently at a paltry 206 baht per day. Many low level workers would have to work 12 hours per day, 30 days per month to make wages of less than 6000 baht per month … even in BKK … that’s less than $200 USD even at today’s lousy exchange rate. This means that all the shop girls and waitresses we see busting their butts for long hours every day are earning barely enough to stay alive.
No wonder the brave ones turn to hooking to make ends meet. And no wonder they’re all looking for a rich farang boyfriend.
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/200698/44-baht-a-day-rise-unlikely-to-win-nod[/url]
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Wage 206 baht per day.[/QUOTE]How many hours?
[QUOTE=Daddy07] And no wonder they’re all looking for a rich farang boyfriend.
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/200698/44-baht-a-day-rise-unlikely-to-win-nod[/url][/QUOTE]Not so sure about the "all" part.
[QUOTE=Mealticket]Sorry , no amount of bacon and eggs are worth $80[/QUOTE]
Well, its not for massive quantities of bacon & eggs – there are plenty of cheap buffets for that. Its for quality!
Haven’t been to the Four Seasons yet but based on Barkos rec. I’ll have to try it. I stay at the Peninsula and they have a very good buffet for about 700BHT (though their dinner buffet is off the charts but expensive). The other 2 hotels in the triangle are the Shangri-La and the Oriental. Yes, the Oriental is very good and I haven’t tried the Shangri-La yet but they are all on the river, have free shuttle boats to each others piers and the Thaksin skytrain station and the whole experience has NEVER failed to impress the ladies and you get some great food as well.
I would imaging that the other "real" 5 star hotels like the DusitThani and Plaza Athenae will have great buffets as well. Lastly, the State Tower (Lebua) with thier top floor open air restaurant on the 80th floor is probably pretty good as well as they have a great view.
[QUOTE=Mealticket]Sorry , no amount of bacon and eggs are worth $80[/QUOTE]You funny farang. But, good point. Egg drop pork "jok" with diced chilies, slivered ginger, & rice vinegar anyone? There's a great place down off Soi 24, I'll do that any day of the week! 40 Baht.
I was simply answering a fairly objective question with a fairly subjective answer. Hell, it's what most of this board is based on! Heh.
Countering remark: A lot of people make more than that amount of money in a half hour, (maybe not so many around here though.) So now, if you just sit and eat good caviar and drink decent champagne in a place full of beautiful women for an hour, you're way ahead of the game, right? (But, that's just for starters at the Four Seasons!) Beats the shit out of flying first class on any airline in the world, that's for sure. Fuck it, I easily spend that much money just fooling around with the babies in Soi Cowboy on Friday night.
It all depends on how you look at it.
Lots of basically normal people spend more than $80 on THEIR Friday night in the US for a really lousy steak & a stupid ass crap movie, both instantly forgettable. And, lots of people lose more than that in 1 minute at a Black-Jack table in Vegas any time, any day of the week, again, instantly forgotten at the next round of cards. Retarded? Yep, but, there it is.
I guarantee that you will NOT easily forget the Sunday brunch at the Four Seasons. Sometimes you can spoil yourself a little, you really can. And for $80? You could do a lot worse.
Justification: I mean really, think about it, these people are so serious about this food thing that they fly the ultra gourmet "Echire butter" for their Bearnaise steak sauce in from La Rochelle France every Saturday morning. And, yes the sauce is absolutely completely insane, something that interrupts and reorganizes your entire thought process about the way you think of food. Everything there at the Four Seasons brunch is at this level. And, all for eighty smackdogs? It's a steal, it really is. Dude, it ain't eggs n' bacon.
Again, it all depends on how you look at it. :D
Fuck, now I'm starving.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]The Oriental buffet is really extraordinary. It is on my top ten list of last meals before I die. You should try it at least once even though it is très beaucoup expensive.[/QUOTE]The dining information page on the Mandarin Oriental hotel's web site shows several different buffets in several different restaurants:
[url]http://www.mandarinoriental.com/about_mo/media/press_kits/bangkok/bangkok_voyage.aspx[/url]
Perhaps Mr. Bumpo (or other gourmands) might recommend a specific buffet at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel.
Getting peckish just thinking about it.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Barko]These people are so serious about this food thing that they fly the ultra gourmet "Echire butter" for their Bearnaise steak sauce in from La Rochelle France every Saturday morning. And, yes the sauce is absolutely completely insane, something that interrupts and reorganizes your entire thought process about the way you think of food. Everything there at the Four Seasons brunch is at this level.[/QUOTE]The hotel's web site has a page devoted to the Sunday brunch:
[url]http://www.fourseasons.com/bangkok/dining/sunday_brunch/[/url]
And if you click here, you can see a sample menu. It sure looks to be everything Mr. Barko promises and more:
[url]http://www.fourseasons.com/bangkok/menu_2121/[/url]
Bunky
[QUOTE=Bunky]The dining information page on the Mandarin Oriental hotel's web site shows several different buffets in several different restaurants: [url]http://www.mandarinoriental.com/about_mo/media/press_kits/bangkok/bangkok_voyage.aspx[/url]Bunky[/QUOTE]
I was thinking about Lord Jim's Buffet Lunch. I was very impressed with the joint when I dined there. 5* plus. Buffet Lunch - 12am-2:30pm
Recently I had the pleasure of dining with David_33, who treated me to a fantastic lunch buffet at the Majestic Grand. Many thanks for the excellent food and even better conversation, David.
The buffet is superb, IMHO. It costs 300B, and has some of the best buffet food I have had in a long time. The room itself was mostly filled with locals, which tells you something. In addition to the buffet typical options (you know, the steamed crab, the yellow curry, etc.) there were loads of seafood options, a satay grill, several options of bread, lots of dessert options, and excellent coffee to follow. The thing is that the food didn't taste like buffet food - it wasn't the usual bland, stale kind of food that has been mass-prepared. It tasted pretty damned good, IMHO. All for a paltry 300B. David did insist we arrive as close to 11:30am as possible though, and he was right - by 1pm (when we left), the place was full and the food was running thin.
[QUOTE=Barko]good point.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I know.
The thing / trick is to have the money to spend on $80 breakfast buffets but NO inclination to do so.
But, you're right, on occasion, thoughts of the bearnaise at Ruth's Chris do sweep through my mind.
[QUOTE=Mealticket]Thanks. I know.
The thing / trick is to have the money to spend on $80 breakfast buffets but NO inclination to do so.
But, you're right, on occasion, thoughts of the bearnaise at Ruth's Chris do sweep through my mind.[/QUOTE]Groan. You can lead a horse to water, but.
Comparing the Ruth's Chris chain to the Four Seasons Bangkok is like trying to compare that "really cool" diamond ring you bought at Zales to a "D, E, Investment Grade, Exceptional white, River, Princess cut pure white" 3 carat stone that you specifically flew to Antwerp to purchase. We are talking two COMPLETELY different frames of thought. The former is worth less than 15% of the purchase price the nanosecond after you plunked down your Visa debit card. The latter, however, not only worth the intense rush it gave you when you first bought the thing, that little rock is so rare that it will be worth 100% more 5 years down the road, and 100% more 5 years after that, (or 16 times more than what you bought it for after 20, or 64 times the original cost after 30.) The longer you own it, the more it is worth, (and of course, the more you enjoy it.)
It's just like a great memory.
My 1980 Porsche has been a great delivery system for some incredible memories that I will cherish and take to my grave. I can't take the CAR with me, of course, but the memories, I can, (and will.) Fortunately, the car is worth far more now than the day I bought it. On the other hand, the 1980 Mustang Ghia that I bought for my (long since ex) wife 30 years ago, the one she just HAD TO HAVE, is long gone, dead & buried, or, possibly, a little teeny tiny part of the stainless steel in your disposable razor blade that you used to shave with this morning. Virtually worthless.
Memories are everything, and the Four Seasons does a really great job of providing them. If you are still a non-believer, just try the place this Sunday to know what you are talking about. It's not about throwing away money at all, it's about creating memories.
[QUOTE=Barko] Memories are everything, and the Four Seasons does a really great job of providing them. If you are still a non-believer, just try the place this Sunday to know what you are talking about. It's not about throwing away money at all, it's about creating memories.[/QUOTE]
If I had to choose Ruth Chris or Four Seasons BKK Sunday buffet, I would choose without hesitation the Four Seasons. I stayed at the Four Seasons BKK the year it changed over from the Regent. They gave me a great deal back then: $140 for an upgraded deluxe room with a pool view. The Sunday buffet was impressive.
It is my experience that not all Ruth Chris’s are of the same quality. There is a real good one in my home town in South Florida where I have had consistently excellent meals although I think I prefer the Capital Grill. I have tried other R.C.’s elsewhere that were downright mediocre.
I am originally from Chicago and I remember back in the 70’s & early 80's how great the steaks were at Morton’s, years ago before they got bought out and franchised. That was a foodie memory! I think Lord Jim’s is at that level or higher for seafood.
In any case, there is no denying that BKK is a food paradise among other things.
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Hello,
I'm planning a post divorce vacation to Thailand in Nov '11. I plan to stay a total of 12 nights. The more I read, the more I figure myself to be more of a Patong guy than Pattaya. Of course, I plan to monger, but I do want to toss in a little culture and luxurious pampering. I also want to spend some time in Bangkok.
I'm in my mid thirties, 6'4 and I am in excellent shape. I hope to catch the attention of some female tourists as well. With all that said, I welcome advice on how to split my time between the 3 locations and which days of week are best in specific areas. I can arrive any day of the week.
Many thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=Always Horny #2]Hello,
I'm planning a post divorce vacation to Thailand in Nov '11. I plan to stay a total of 12 nights. The more I read, the more I figure myself to be more of a Patong guy than Pattaya. Of course, I plan to monger, but I do want to toss in a little culture and luxurious pampering. I also want to spend some time in Bangkok.
I'm in my mid thirties, 6'4 and I am in excellent shape. I hope to catch the attention of some female tourists as well. With all that said, I welcome advice on how to split my time between the 3 locations and which days of week are best in specific areas. I can arrive any day of the week.
Many thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
Forgot to mention that I always prefer quality over quantity!
[QUOTE=Always Horny #2]
I'm planning a post divorce vacation to Thailand in Nov '11. I plan to stay a total of 12 nights. I figure myself to be more of a Patong guy than Pattaya. Of course, I plan to monger, but I do want to toss in a little culture and luxurious pampering. I also want to spend some time in Bangkok ... Forgot to mention that I always prefer quality over quantity!
I welcome advice on how to split my time between the 3 locations and which days of week are best in specific areas. Many thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
Hey Always, I can't think of a better place to come for a post divorce vacation. Thailand will make you happy.
As to how to split your time, my advice is dependent on what time you arrive in BKK on your international flight and what you indicated where your preferences.
If you arrive before 4pm, I would take a taxi from the airport straight to Pattaya. It is a 90 minute ride leaving you plenty of time to check into your hotel, relax, and have a bite to eat before hitting the Walking Street Go Go's. What a first night that will be! I would spend 4 nights in Pattaya total and then fly Bangkok Air from Pattaya (UTP) nonstop to Phuket. Phuket night life is ok, but it can't compare to Pattaya. What Phuket has though, are real nice beaches. It depends on your tastes and preferences, but I would only spend 3 days in Phuket (unless I was really into scuba or dig the beach scene). The reason I recommend only three nights in Phuket is because I like Bangkok and women best, beaches second and less than five days in the big mango is not enough time for me. But it will give you a damn good intro into what the town has to offer i.e. great restaurants, culture, and beautiful girls in multiple venues (Go Go's, Soapies, oily's, & bars). A lot of guys like Pat over BKK and they would probably advise 5 or 6 days in Pat minimum. It's up to you. No matter how you slice the pie, I don't see how you can go wrong.
If your flight arrives later than 6pm, I would recommend reversing my suggested itinerary above and spend the first 5 nights in BKK. Then fly down to Phuket and play in the sun. Last but not least, I would fly from Phuket to Pattaya (UTB) and wrap things up in Pattaya for 4 or 5 nights. And then take a taxi straight to the BKK airport. Logistically, just make sure of your flight dates in and out of Phuket before you book your international flight.
Given the continuing strength of the Thai baht and the Thai's business sense of less custom equals raise prices I would suggest people plan other places for their vacation.
Philippines is cheap now compared to Thailand and you get no hassle with lack of spoken English.
26 baht to the dollar by Christmas?
Hi guys,
Somebody help me out I have read and re-read posts. I will be going to Thailand for the first time in November for 10 days, now do I split my time between Bangkok and Pattaya or do just stay in Bangkok or do I just go to Pattaya. Any help appreciated.
[QUOTE=Bozza]Hi guys,
Somebody help me out I have read and re-read posts. I will be going to Thailand for the first time in November for 10 days, now do I split my time between Bangkok and Pattaya or do just stay in Bangkok or do I just go to Pattaya. Any help appreciated.[/QUOTE]
If you have never been to Bangkok I would spend 2 - 3 days to look it over then head down to Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Barko]It looks like I will have to book my seat at the four seasons sunday brunch before I fly in - that menu looks amazing.[/quote]Anyone up for a brunch on one of the last two Sundays of November?
Following on from posts made by other members in August about microsims, is there anywhere to get normal sims cut down to microsims properly in BKK or Pattaya?
I am aware that you CAN cut them yourself with a sharp knife, and a pair of scissors (or a razer blade), using your current microsim as a template. However, the risk to my current sim and the bought sim(s) (I have ruined fairly simple home DYI electronics things before), and the probability that it won't cost much more to get somene else to do it means I thought I would ask.
Every second telephone shop in Melbourne has signs about this service "cheap," so has anyone seen the same in Thailand?
I searched all over and couldn't find a current report on whether you can or can't smoke around in Bangkok these days. Can you smoke in bars? Can you smoke in clubs?
Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=Palatino314]I searched all over and couldn't find a current report on whether you can or can't smoke around in Bangkok these days. Can you smoke in bars? Can you smoke in clubs?
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
If the club/bar is enclosed and has a/c then smoking is not allowed, technically.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]Following on from posts made by other members in August about microsims, is there anywhere to get normal sims cut down to microsims properly in BKK or Pattaya? [/QUOTE]Go to Tukcom in Pattaya or MBK in BKK. I'm pretty sure they can do it. It shouldn't cost much seeing that the price of a normal SIM card is 99 baht. I'll guess that 50 baht will put you in the house to have one cut down.
But I did see something new to me. It happened in Hua Hin, but I'm posting here to see where else this has been seen.
I was walking into a deadend soi at night when I saw a middle aged european woman walking out with her arm around the shoulder of a bar girl who looked to be about 30. Expression on bg's face was not too happy, but resigned to it. European didn't look like a lesbian to me, but so what? As they passed I realized the bg was wearing a sash of 100 baht notes clipped together with safety pins. WTF?
Turned after they passed and I realized there was a middle aged man with them when he joined up on the other side of the bg and put his arm around her too.
I'm thinking somebody is into humiliation.
[QUOTE=Palatino314]I searched all over and couldn't find a current report on whether you can or can't smoke around in Bangkok these days. Can you smoke in bars? Can you smoke in clubs?
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
You'll just have to search around to find them, but there are some clubs that welcome everybody and don't discriminate against people who smoke.
[QUOTE=Palatino314]I searched all over and couldn't find a current report on whether you can or can't smoke around in Bangkok these days. Can you smoke in bars? Can you smoke in clubs?
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
You cannot smoke in any enclosed place, according to the Thai law.
2000B fine if you get caught
[QUOTE=Further]But I did see something new to me. It happened in Hua Hin, but I'm posting here to see where else this has been seen.
I was walking into a deadend soi at night when I saw a middle aged european woman walking out with her arm around the shoulder of a bar girl who looked to be about 30. Expression on bg's face was not too happy, but resigned to it. European didn't look like a lesbian to me, but so what? As they passed I realized the bg was wearing a sash of 100 baht notes clipped together with safety pins. WTF?
Turned after they passed and I realized there was a middle aged man with them when he joined up on the other side of the bg and put his arm around her too.
I'm thinking somebody is into humiliation.[/QUOTE]
That usually indicates that it was the girl's BIRTHDAY
[QUOTE=Duniawala]You cannot smoke in any enclosed place, according to the Thai law.[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha ... someone had better tell the Go-go bar owners that one ... it's about time they staged some raids ...
[QUOTE=Bozza]Hi guys,
Somebody help me out I have read and re-read posts. I will be going to Thailand for the first time in November for 10 days, now do I split my time between Bangkok and Pattaya or do just stay in Bangkok or do I just go to Pattaya. Any help appreciated.[/QUOTE]
If it's your first trip then go to both so that you have experienced both. I would spend a bit less time in BKK than in Patts since Patts is cheaper, is next to the ocean and has a beach and is pretty much a mongering only place. I would say spend three nights in Bangkok, then seven nights in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Hahahaha ... someone had better tell the Go-go bar owners that one ... it's about time they staged some raids ...[/QUOTE]
Yes, many GoGos now have a smoking side and non smoking side. For non smokers, it's disgusting having a girl come to sit with you and she reeks of second hand smoke...
I'm to be located part time in Sukhumwit a couple of km past On Nut BTS Station. Need to buy a good comfortable quality bed Queen mattress at reasonable price. Not cheap Thai hard mattresses! What are best places to look? Any local knowledge appreciated.
Smoking,
I'm a non-smoker, this law is a joke and so are the individuals that pass it, put this law in the same garbage can as the one that you can't use your cell phone while driving!
If you expect smoke to stay in one place forget it! If you expect no smoking in a go-go forget it! If you expect the rule to be enforce and get upset because it doesn't! My word of advice is " Stay home " you have a better chance being a Farang to getting fine for wearing a helment or not wearing a helment! than being fine for smoking!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan] ... If you expect no smoking in a go-go forget it! ... LBM[/QUOTE]
A few of the better go-go's such as SuperBaby enforce a no smoking policy which I very much appreciate and I will patronize those bars.
It's nice to enjoy a few drinks while watching the pretty girls without cigarette smoke from some asshole sitting next to you drifting into your face and up your nose. If they want to smoke, fine, but they should go outside the bar.
If the cops can make money raiding bars for 'prostitution' and other violations, why can't they do the same for allowing smoking on the premises? A few thousand baht fine to the manager would solve the problem IMHO. They'd stop putting ashtrays out for customers in a hurry.
Anyone who complains about smoking in Bangkok is a total arse.
There are so much car and lorry and bus fumes around, all more deadly than 2nd hand smoke that you have to be plain dumb to complain about smoke from cigarettes.
I do not smoke but I do not care if people do, we are forced to breath in deadly fumes from vehicles all day long in Bangkok and yet the idiots who complain over smokers happily breath in the deadly fumes of all of Bangkok's traffic day and night.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]A few of the better go-go's such as SuperBaby enforce a no smoking policy which I very much appreciate and I will patronize those bars.
It's nice to enjoy a few drinks while watching the pretty girls without cigarette smoke from some asshole sitting next to you drifting into your face and up your nose. If they want to smoke, fine, but they should go outside the bar.
If the cops can make money raiding bars for 'prostitution' and other violations, why can't they do the same for allowing smoking on the premises? A few thousand baht fine to the manager would solve the problem IMHO. They'd stop putting ashtrays out for customers in a hurry.[/QUOTE]
Daddy07,
Unfortuately buddy those places are far and few these days especially in this town! Personally I don't like the smoke either but pretty much have given up since I got to get my fix from time to time at the go-go's! Just the other night I was at Heaven Above! (just don't see what so special about this place?) Farang next to me that smell like he hasn't taken a shower in days and another in front of me that smoke ( although the sign said no smoking ) between the two I enjoy the smoke better! For some reason I can tolerate the smoking but can't tolerate someone not taking a shower!
Maybe I'm getting old like you? can't beat the system but like you said it would be nice to see some tits without all that smoke that seem to drift everywhere. I don't mind if they smoke but smoke and now let it sit and burn while their tongues are hanging out! The want their cake and eat it too?
Again you are right! fine the idiots but doing the easy and right thing isn't what Thailand is all about! No matter how beautiful the girl, if they smoke they're out the door!
LBM
Can't speak for Patts but no one smokes in Bangkok Go-Gos, bars, clubs, discos etc. - there is very hefty fine for the owner and there's normally a place outside for smoking.
Anyone smokes is shown the door in a matter of seconds. I have seen guys (deliberately) wonder in with cigarette lit in their hand (try to sneak in) and girls chasing them to get them put off their cigarette or finish it outside....
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Can't speak for Patts but no one smokes in Bangkok Go-Gos, bars, clubs, discos etc. - there is very hefty fine for the owner and there's normally a place outside for smoking.
Anyone smokes is shown the door in a matter of seconds. I have seen guys (deliberately) wonder in with cigarette lit in their hand (try to sneak in) and girls chasing them to get them put off their cigarette or finish it outside....[/QUOTE]
Bangkok was always more civilized that Patts ... but Patts has always been more fun. :)
Anyone can recommend a good condom, ie., one that allows you to actually feel you are having sex? Needs to be larger than average as the ones I've tried squeeze so hard my dick goes numb.
I searched the forum with words like best/condom/sensitive but way to many reports come back that happen to have those key words but not about the subject.
I looked through the safe sex forum for 2010 but didn't find anything so I am doing a direct request.
I did find a 2009 report in the "General Reports" that recommended a couple but would like to get anyone else's suggestion.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Anyone can recommend a good condom, ie., one that allows you to actually feel you are having sex? Needs to be larger than average as the ones I've tried squeeze so hard my dick goes numb.
I searched the forum with words like best/condom/sensitive but way to many reports come back that happen to have those key words but not about the subject.
I looked through the safe sex forum for 2010 but didn't find anything so I am doing a direct request.
I did find a 2009 report in the "General Reports" that recommended a couple but would like to get anyone else's suggestion.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Three suggestions:
1) Durex Fetherlite (that is the proper spelling) are the most sheer.
2) At the bottom of the back side of every condom box, in the bottom right corner, is a number indicating the circumference. Buying something larger than 52 should be helpful.
3) Avoid Durex Performa, they have a gel designed to diminish sensation so as to increase performance time.
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Can't speak for Patts but no one smokes in Bangkok Go-Gos, bars, clubs, discos etc. - there is very hefty fine for the owner and there's normally a place outside for smoking.
Anyone smokes is shown the door in a matter of seconds. I have seen guys (deliberately) wonder in with cigarette lit in their hand (try to sneak in) and girls chasing them to get them put off their cigarette or finish it outside....[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, buddy and I had to relocate seats last week while in Patpong because of smoking Dancers in one of the corners and smoking Japanese guys in the other.
I've awoken after many a night in Patpong only to smell my shirts and gag at the stench of cigarettes.
So someone in BKK is smoking a lot more than just their customers ...
[QUOTE=The Pro]Anyone who complains about smoking in Bangkok is a total arse.
There are so much car and lorry and bus fumes around, all more deadly than 2nd hand smoke that you have to be plain dumb to complain about smoke from cigarettes.
I do not smoke but I do not care if people do, we are forced to breath in deadly fumes from vehicles all day long in Bangkok and yet the idiots who complain over smokers happily breath in the deadly fumes of all of Bangkok's traffic day and night.[/QUOTE]
Meh, maybe people only complain about those things they think they can change. Maybe people complain about those things that can make their lives a little more enjoyable, with less regard to whether they are increasing or decreasing their life expectancy.
[QUOTE=The Pro]Anyone who complains about smoking in Bangkok is a total arse.
There are so much car and lorry and bus fumes around, all more deadly than 2nd hand smoke that you have to be plain dumb to complain about smoke from cigarettes.
I do not smoke but I do not care if people do, we are forced to breath in deadly fumes from vehicles all day long in Bangkok and yet the idiots who complain over smokers happily breath in the deadly fumes of all of Bangkok's traffic day and night.[/QUOTE]
The Pro,
I agree with the accessments between fumes from vehicles and smoking, but to say that those expressing their views are " arse / idiot " is a pretty one dimension dementia point of view which one can say about your point of view regarding vehicles fumes but no one has gone so far as to make any reference to a personal attack!
See! I do care about smoking but in Thailand it is a loosing battle! there is a law ( we Farangs didn't create ) but isn't enforce so my thinking is why complain about what I can't change! In the States, we have the same law which is enforce that is the difference!
Another point is I believe there is some kind of law for excessive fumes in Thailand for vehicles that is also not enforce! that might account for all the " so much car lorry and bus fumes " in my opinion it would be dumb of someone to make such a comparison since both problems are dangerous to ones health. To me the difference is the ability to get away from the smoke in a club confinement than being out in the open. A smaller area doesn't mean it is a smaller problem.
To each his own but I'm not going to come out and say that someone else point of view that I don't agree with is a " total arse, dumb and a idiot " personally I think it is over the top!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]...To each his own but I'm not going to come out and say that someone else point of view that I don't agree with is a " total arse, dumb and a idiot " personally I think it is over the top! ... LBM[/QUOTE]
There’s a lot of air pollution from vehicles in Bangkok, so anyone who complains about cigarette smoke is a “total arse,” “plain dumb,” and an “idiot.” Such is the comical, nonsensical and convoluted logic of our friend, The Pro, a.k.a., the forum scold.
Thanks, LBM, for reminding me why I put that troll on my ignore list so long ago.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Thanks, LBM, for reminding me why I put that troll on my ignore list so long ago.[/QUOTE]
Ditto, Daddy, problem is, we still have to read his drivel when someone quotes him.
:eek:
[QUOTE=1Ball]Ditto, Daddy, problem is, we still have to read his drivel when someone quotes him.
:eek:[/QUOTE]
Quoting allows the remarks to be highlighted so that others can reference sometimes just how stupid these remarks are and most times they are quoted because they are good! In this particular case it doesn't even meet a standard therefore it has to be quoted not once but over and over again so that others can identify the individual that is writing such nonsense!
That is just my opinion, LBM
[QUOTE=Bkk Rookie]...2) At the bottom of the back side of every condom box, in the bottom right corner, is a number indicating the circumference. Buying something larger than 52 should be helpful....[/QUOTE]A slight correction 52 is the width which means half the circumfence. The Excita is "53" and the "Comfort" 56.
Not sure if anyone can help, but for various reasons I do not want to book a taxi in advance and prefer to just turn up at the BKK airport and find a taxi there and then to take me to Hua Hin.
I have done this before for Pattaya and there was no problem, there are plenty of touts around and I speak some Thai words and can haggle hard. In fact I found a good deal, cheaper than booking in advance and a nice car.
The thing is I just don't know if they are touts around that are prepared to go to Hua Hin, it's a long way and not much chance of a return fare, so it's different to Pattaya.
Anyone knows if there are taxis for Hua Hin in the aiport without booking in advance and also how much they offer for a one way trip... ?
Cheers,
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Not sure if anyone can help, but for various reasons I do not want to book a taxi in advance and prefer to just turn up at the BKK airport and find a taxi there and then to take me to Hua Hin.
I have done this before for Pattaya and there was no problem, there are plenty of touts around and I speak some Thai words and can haggle hard. In fact I found a good deal, cheaper than booking in advance and a nice car.
The thing is I just don't know if they are touts around that are prepared to go to Hua Hin, it's a long way and not much chance of a return fare, so it's different to Pattaya.
Anyone knows if there are taxis for Hua Hin in the aiport without booking in advance and also how much they offer for a one way trip... ?
Cheers,[/QUOTE]
Although Hua Hin is not as popular as Pattayia, you should be able to find someone at the airport ready to take you there during normal working hours. I would imagine you would pay 2,000 plus (Hua Hin is on the coast on the other side of BKK). Not as cheap as Pattaya but that is because the driver needs to be sure he will get a return journey and he will not be as sure of that in Hua Hin. You could have problems if you arrive late evening as the drivers will assume that there is no chance of a return journey to Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Not sure if anyone can help, but for various reasons I do not want to book a taxi in advance and prefer to just turn up at the BKK airport and find a taxi there and then to take me to Hua Hin.
I have done this before for Pattaya and there was no problem, there are plenty of touts around and I speak some Thai words and can haggle hard. In fact I found a good deal, cheaper than booking in advance and a nice car.
The thing is I just don't know if they are touts around that are prepared to go to Hua Hin, it's a long way and not much chance of a return fare, so it's different to Pattaya.
Anyone knows if there are taxis for Hua Hin in the aiport without booking in advance and also how much they offer for a one way trip... ?
Cheers,[/QUOTE]
I did the trip in June, I know you don't want to prebook but I used Taxicall 2000baht and excellent service. Easy to find on the net. I wouldn't bother wasting my time at the airport trying to negotiate a fare for the same price, you could waste upto an hour instead of being half way there.
May the force be with you.
[QUOTE=Bkk Rookie]Three suggestions:
1) Durex Fetherlite (that is the proper spelling) are the most sheer.
2) At the bottom of the back side of every condom box, in the bottom right corner, is a number indicating the circumference. Buying something larger than 52 should be helpful.
3) Avoid Durex Performa, they have a gel designed to diminish sensation so as to increase performance time.[/QUOTE]
To Rookie and Tiger, thanks for the condom info, I'll try the suggestions, and Tiger, the width/circumference number is interesting info, didn't know it existed.
Has anyone had experience using the adult friend finder or friend finder websites to hook up with FLs? I wonder if the listing are for real. It costs money to send a message so is it worth while?
[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]I did the trip in June, I know you don't want to prebook but I used Taxicall 2000baht and excellent service. Easy to find on the net. I wouldn't bother wasting my time at the airport trying to negotiate a fare for the same price, you could waste upto an hour instead of being half way there.
May the force be with you.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info, I would arrive 6am and have to wait a while for one of my regulars to join me. It would be a waste of time to try and estimate when she will turn up ! So I can't really book ahead....
I won't be looking for any discount from 2k, just make sure there is one when we want to take off.
[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Thanks for the info, I would arrive 6am and have to wait a while for one of my regulars to join me. It would be a waste of time to try and estimate when she will turn up ! So I can't really book ahead....
I won't be looking for any discount from 2k, just make sure there is one when we want to take off.[/QUOTE]You take take a mini bus from Victory monument for 200B. Take the train to BTS, connect to Victory monument and then meet up with your regular there and head to Hua Hin for 200B each.
[QUOTE=Yomama99]Has anyone had experience using the adult friend finder or friend finder websites to hook up with FLs? I wonder if the listing are for real. It costs money to send a message so is it worth while?[/QUOTE]The older mature women tend to real, and obviously they are looking for sex because they cannot get any from Thai men as they are past it.
The older mature Euro/USA women are real, and obviously they are looking for sex becuase they cannot get any from any man in Bangkok nomally, so they must turn their attention to the desperates of the internet.
Most other women are professional and they advertise on sexyescortads and numerous other web sites.
They are some not so old women on there, however they are generally, shall we say, rather plump. Ok. Fat.
So, if you like desperate and not so pretty older women or fatties, give it a go, otherwise, give it a miss!
Well, that would have been a good story...
But actually, a few days ago, after a fairly stressful time at work, I was diagnosed with high blood presure. Surreally high; I won't even tell you the numbers because you'll just say by rights I should explode... Funny thing is, I don't have any of the risk factors (beyond chronic obesity, old age, no exercise, family history, diabetes, etc :) ). Anyway, I bought myself a blood pressure monitor to check my readings while I am away on business. A couple of days travelling and the numbers were still on overload. :(
But then today, BP has dropped to normal levels. :) And all I have done is had a couple of awesome bonks with the gf...
Of course what it is, is those little blue pills. They dilate the blood vessels, allowing blood to reach the important parts, and at the same time lowering the overall pressure. Just checked on-line, but trust me, I am a doctor.
So the solution is simple. To live longer, bonk longer and oftener... :)
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Well, that would have been a good story...
But actually, a few days ago, after a fairly stressful time at work, I was diagnosed with high blood presure. Surreally high; I won't even tell you the numbers because you'll just say by rights I should explode... Funny thing is, I don't have any of the risk factors (beyond chronic obesity, old age, no exercise, family history, diabetes, etc :) ). Anyway, I bought myself a blood pressure monitor to check my readings while I am away on business. A couple of days travelling and the numbers were still on overload. :(
But then today, BP has dropped to normal levels. :) And all I have done is had a couple of awesome bonks with the gf...
Of course what it is, is those little blue pills. They dilate the blood vessels, allowing blood to reach the important parts, and at the same time lowering the overall pressure. Just checked on-line, but trust me, I am a doctor.
So the solution is simple. To live longer, bonk longer and oftener... :)[/QUOTE]
Well there you are then ... you just had to blow yer load ...
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]A slight correction 52 is the width which means half the circumfence. The Excita is "53" and the "Comfort" 56.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm, if width = diameter, then doesn't C = w * pi (3.14)?
:)
Thanks for the clarification. I stand corrected.
[QUOTE=Bkk Rookie]Hmmm, if width = diameter, then doesn't C = w * pi (3.14)?
:)
Thanks for the clarification. I stand corrected.[/QUOTE]I thought that, but on reconsidering, if the condom is flat, then diameter is half the circumference. An easier way to measure it.
Gents,
I have a 3 entry tourist visa which is good until end of April 2011. I have to leave Thailand on the 28th of December (I know very bad timing due to New years and all that) but I was wondering what would be the consequences/fine if I were to not leave Thailand on the 28th of dec and instead leave in the first week of Jan 2011? Am I going to be blacklisted? Forbidden entry in Thailand for the next x months/years? Or worse, deported?
I'd like some feedback on that matter and as to whether I should pay top $ and leave Thailand towards the most expensive time of the year to travel anywhere or stay here for an extra week and then leave Thailand for my visa run? What would you experienced gents recommend/suggest?
Thanks a bunch!
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Gents,
I have a 3 entry tourist visa which is good until end of April 2011. I have to leave Thailand on the 28th of December (I know very bad timing due to New years and all that) but I was wondering what would be the consequences/fine if I were to not leave Thailand on the 28th of dec and instead leave in the first week of Jan 2011? Am I going to be blacklisted? Forbidden entry in Thailand for the next x months/years? Or worse, deported?
QUOTE]
How long does your visa allow you to stay in the country, and how long have you been there?
If you overstay your visa one day they shake their finger and tell you to not do it again, if you overstay your visa more, then you must pay a fine for every day that you are there. So, calulate the number of days that your visa allows you to stay and make your decision. Some are 30 days, some 90, and some one year.
If you are at the end of your allowed stay and have one more entry allowed, consider a "visa run", go to Cambodia or Laos and then reenter the country and the clock will start ticking again. There are visa runs from all the major cities almost every day, just look around for a travel agent and they will be able to assist you.
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard]...If you overstay your visa one day they shake their finger and tell you to not do it again, if you overstay your visa more, then you must pay a fine for every day that you are there... [/QUOTE]That only applies if you turn yourself in at the airport. If they catch you in the country you are in deep shit. I have read horror stories about jails in this context. Do in no case overstay even one day.
i need to use the internet on my own notebook pc via a very high speed internet connection (plug in lan cable).
used to be such an internet cafe in sukhumvit soi 11 but its gone now, after alley redevelopment.
most so called "high speed" cafes are actually low speed and useless for my needs? any suggestions for good place on upper sukhumvit area or not too far?
i assume usb plug in wireless air cards will be too slow, but correct me if i am wrong.
what i am used to using (not in thailand) that works o.k. is 54 mbps and somewhat slower may be o.k.
[quote=syzygies]i need to use the internet on my own notebook pc via a very high speed internet connection (plug in lan cable).
used to be such an internet cafe in sukhumvit soi 11 but its gone now, after alley redevelopment.
most so called "high speed" cafes are actually low speed and useless for my needs? any suggestions for good place on upper sukhumvit area or not too far?
i assume usb plug in wireless air cards will be too slow, but correct me if i am wrong.
what i am used to using (not in thailand) that works o.k. is 54 mbps and somewhat slower may be o.k.[/quote]
go to times square. across from robinson. there is an internet cafe there w/good speeds.
usb plugs can be good but depends on the carrier and signal strength.
[QUOTE=Duniawala].
USB plugs can be good but depends on the carrier and signal strength.[/QUOTE]
..and on the cost!
quote:
originally posted by duniawala
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usb plugs can be good but depends on the carrier and signal strength.
[quote=bionicman]..and on the cost![/quote]
skip the usb plugs in thailand. except in a couple of rare exceptions, the country hasn't even managed to get 3g speeds yet, let alone lte or 4g. so the usb cards usually run on edge, which gives you 100kbps at best (that's 540 times slower than the 54 mbps the original poster referred to...)
[quote=jed wordsmith]quote:
originally posted by duniawala
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usb plugs can be good but depends on the carrier and signal strength.
skip the usb plugs in thailand. except in a couple of rare exceptions, the country hasn't even managed to get 3g speeds yet, let alone lte or 4g. so the usb cards usually run on edge, which gives you 100kbps at best (that's 540 times slower than the 54 mbps the original poster referred to...)[/quote]
bangkok has 3g in a few select areas, most of the three carriers have upgraded their edge nework to edge+ (whatever that is)
i use an air card with dtac and have not had any troubles, but i do not try to download video, just sending some small files and skype.
fyi
attached is a interesting tale of woe about the one persons problems with his iphone
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciyhy4p19-q[/url]
[quote=lord farquard]bangkok has 3g in a few select areas, most of the three carriers have upgraded their edge nework to edge+ (whatever that is)
i use an air card with dtac and have not had any troubles, but i do not try to download video, just sending some small files and skype.
fyi
attached is a interesting tale of woe about the one persons problems with his iphone
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciyhy4p19-q[/url][/quote]
just a f.y.i taken from the pattaya people newspaper november 15-30.
after a long delay, the tot has finally decided to speed up the process for the 3g bidding, saying the first phrase will be in service by the second quarter of next year.
the tot board will grant a permit to only one lowest bidder to operate the third-generation telecomunication service (3g) for the whole country. the tot said the system was very complicated and should, therefore, be operated by only one company, which will be required to use the same equipment throughout the nation.
ais and true move have already sent their subsidaiary companies to join the tot in operating the 3g service. the two companies are acting as mobile virtural network operator (mvno) for the time being.
the terms of reference (tor) have been completed and are now under the attorney general offices consideration. the bidding wil take place in december and the name of the winning company wil be announced in january of next year.
the service is planned in three phases. the first phase, in which the service will be provided in important areas, is expected to be available in the 2nd quarter of 2011. serviced in the second phase will be provided for bangkok, four surrounding provinces, and 13 other economic provinces; it should be in operation within 180 days after the first phase has been in place.
the third and final stages, which will cover the whole country, will be completed within 4 years. the tot expect that the 3g service will be able to support up to seven million numbers.
in summary... which i have heard before there is currently no 3g operation in thailand?
lbm
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]
In summary... which I have heard before there is currently no 3G operation in Thailand?
LBM[/QUOTE]
3G is available in Chaing Mai and in select areas around shopping malls (MBK) in Bangkok, and at the airport, but the service is spotty at best, it is still in a "test" phase. That is what I know at this point, my air card is 3G, but I still am using the edge network, as I am not near BKK or CM, but I will be in BKK in a few weeks, and I will see what I connect with. I understand that is is running on 2100mhz and there was some testing on 900mhz. Please let us know if you have any additional information.
But as in all things in LOS, it could change tomorrow ;)
[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Anyone can recommend a good condom, ie., one that allows you to actually feel you are having sex? Needs to be larger than average as the ones I've tried squeeze so hard my dick goes numb.[/QUOTE]Try a polypropylene condom.
Durex Avanti were made of polyprop. Didn't stretch much, so there was no squeeze factor on my larger than average. Never complained about 'not being able to feel a thing' when using these. At times the bottom of the condom creeped up the shaft, required a tug back down. That's a trade off I was gladly willing to live with.
But then Durex discontinued the Avanti and replaced it with the Avanti Bare and Avanti Ultima. New ones are also made out of polypro. I'll try the new ones after I've exhausted my stockpile of Avantis. I haven't seen or heard of any Avanti models sold in Thailand, didn't see any when in Malaysia. I expect I'll have to buy them on the net and not complain to much about shipping cost.
[QUOTE=Further]Try a polypropylene condom.[/QUOTE]I meant non-latex condom.
I'm unable to find where Durex states what the original Avanti was made of. Some sources (and my memory) say polypropylene, others say polyurethane. The new Avantis are made from polyurethane and polyisoprene, though they don't state if it's a mixture or if the Ultima is made from one material and the Bare from the other.
[quote=duniawala]go to times square. across from robinson. there is an internet cafe there w/good speeds.
usb plugs can be good but depends on the carrier and signal strength.[/quote]
thanks for that, duni.
i am going to try a friends ais air card first.
that way i can see if the card in usb might be adequate.
but your suggestion will be a great backup if the air card is giving too many problems.
[QUOTE=Yomama99]Has anyone had experience using the adult friend finder or friend finder websites to hook up with FLs? I wonder if the listing are for real. It costs money to send a message so is it worth while?[/QUOTE]
I have started to try this avenue in preparation for my visit in a few days. Some of the girls who replied are pros, some are looking for caucasian guys, which i am not. Will report any success here.
cheers.
Hey people, what does "flying a kite" mean in Thai?
In some random post out there, I saw this "This may sound like total rubbish but I assure you it's 100% true. Many many many many many moons ago when I first came to the LOS for a holiday I met in a bar in Cowboy a girl whose name I no longer care to remember. I spent about a month with her, gave her 14,000 baht, told her I loved her at the airport and almost started crying when it was time to go. It bothers me not to admit this, because I'm sure most of you at one time or another have probably done the same. Anyway, my story. At a fine hotel in Hua Hin she performed on me an action which is known locally as "flying the kite" and out of the blue had an amazingly intense orgasm."
I thought this meant masturbation, but this post seems to suggest it means something else?
[QUOTE=Tommylove]Hey people, what does "flying a kite" mean in Thai? [/QUOTE]
"Fly a kite" --> "Chok wow". It is definitely a slang term for male masterbation. No doubt about it.
Perhaps it has other meanings as well but I don't know them.
I am planning on taking a 2 week or so trip to Thailand in a few months. While I am there I thought it might be nice to shoot over to Angeles City for a few days while I am there. What would be the most cost-efficient way to do this? Should I try to book the flight (BKK to MNL or BKK to CRK) from the US or from Thailand?
A quick internet search shows me flights from BKK to CRK for a 4 day trip at over $2000 with at least one stop and around $550 direct to MNL. I have heard that cheap flights can be found between these two locations but I cannot find them. Any advice? Note this question will also be posted in the Philippines forum.
[QUOTE=Edward M; 1100918]I am planning on taking a 2 week or so trip to Thailand in a few months. While I am there I thought it might be nice to shoot over to Angeles City for a few days while I am there. What would be the most cost-efficient way to do this? Should I try to book the flight (BKK to MNL or BKK to CRK) from the US or from Thailand?
A quick internet search shows me flights from BKK to CRK for a 4 day trip at over $2000 with at least one stop and around $550 direct to MNL. I have heard that cheap flights can be found between these two locations but I cannot find them. Any advice? Note this question will also be posted in the Philippines forum. [/QUOTE]Hi Ed,
Just checked Air Philippines site, BKK-Mnl return for 4200Baht + taxes. Seems like a deal, depending on your travel dates. Ok, you still have to get to AC, easy enough though.
Always seeing cheap deals in agents around Soi's 5 & 7. The missus and I saw a sandwich board in Pratunam last Monday with crazy prices via Air Asia to similar locations. My gut feel is shop around once you arrive, always last minute cheap deals available to fill seats.
Have a friend in AC at present, the sod is sending me pics of little angels day and night! As my missus is not P4P, she is not impressed by this. .
Tuck
Dear fellow mongerers,
I am planning my next years trips and hope to start in February. I have trolled the net, however cannot seem to find any links to public hlidays.
Can anyone assist here please as I want to ensure that I can enjoy the benefits of BKK to the full. I guess I need to miss public holidays as I hear the ladies go back home for these events.
Just a link to a web site if there is one.
Thanks,
BB
[QUOTE=Boater Boy; 1102994]Dear fellow mongerers,
I am planning my next years trips and hope to start in February. I have trolled the net, however cannot seem to find any links to public hlidays.
Can anyone assist here please as I want to ensure that I can enjoy the benefits of BKK to the full. I guess I need to miss public holidays as I hear the ladies go back home for these events.
Just a link to a web site if there is one.
Thanks,
BB[/QUOTE]Wha kind of a dummy am I? No please do not answer.
Jsut found the link on the forum.
Deeply reb Boater Boy