2006 Bangkok Reports

Arrived in Bangkok on the 7th. Checked in to dynasty grande and went straight to Annies ( yes Im on of those guys that actually like this establishment ). No report on this since I know the girl I go there for fairly well and dont wanna end up on her bad side for posting a report online.

Anyways my second night in town I was incredibly tired and felt a bit sick so I decided I would head for soi cowboy and see if I could catch some kind of show, just looking was my idea dor the evening. My plans were imidiately crushed however. As I was at the end of soi 6 about to turn onto soi4 I feel a sudden impact on my back and a pair of arms around me. When I turn around Im pleasently suprised by a very cute little Isaan girl. She drags me into Alex bar wich is almost right next to the hotel. I figure ok I'll start the night of with a drink here. After my first GT Im starting to feel even worse so I decide to just barfine this girl and leave cowboy for another night.

Back at the hotel we took a quick shower and then she went straight for the BBJ. This girl was very enthusiastic and under the normal circumstances Im sure I would have come pretty quickly but this night the jetlag was taking it's rightful toll on me. All in all it took almost 3 hours for me to pop and she didnt complain once about this wich made me like her even more. She was also up for almost any position, just eager to please. Afterwards she was very cuddly and fell asleep with her arms around me. woke up quite early and went straight for the morning fuck then she was out the door. Overall a very good experience and I would definately repeat this girl.

Well that's my first night out. Will be trying some different MPs today and will report back with my findings. Since my company put me up with a rather generous expense account I figured I would try some of those really pricey venues I always considered ripoffs before.

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I'll assume you are staying in Bangkok. Go to Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, or Patpong. Talk to bargirls or mamasan, shouldn't be too hard to find a girl for 10 days. But why would you want to when you can try a different girl every night? If you find one you really like, keep her for a couple of days.
When you see the amount of choice available I don't think you'll want only one.

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]Hi,

Im travelling to Thailand in August for 10 days and would love the companionship of 1 or 2 ladies (depends on price) for the entire stay day and night.

I am all new to this. Can somebody point me in the right direction on who to contavt etc.

Thanks,

Big Yuley[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]Im travelling to Thailand in August for 10 days and would love the companionship of 1 or 2 ladies (depends on price) for the entire stay day and night.[/QUOTE]Given you are new to this, I think buying out a girl for your entire holiday can prove to be a mistake.

No matter where you go in thailand (assuming you stick to tourist places) you'll find that P4P is available.

what you can do is for your first few days, sample a fair amount of girls, then keep the one(s) you really liked for the remainder of your stay.

Keep in mind that the Bars will require a Barfine of approx 500thb per night for the girl, and that the girl will also expect a fee of Minimum 1,000 per day (all expenses paid for: Food, Room, Shopping, Trip)

Good luck

Hi
I lived at Nana Hotel last week, thera are lots of girls "around"
I pic up two sexy small girls to my room, i thik 50% of the guests living at Nana Hotel are monger

Regards
BL

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]<cut>
Unless you are really into anal, too shy to hunt on your own and not to concerned about quality, then Eden is for you.[/QUOTE]
I think the "NOT" went missing.

ButtLover

Nana hotel is a well known hotel for sex activities due it's proximity to Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP). The hotel is also a dump and one of the cheapest hotels available in Bangkok. You can book the hotel online for about THB 1,200/USD 34.

In case of biz meetings better not mention that you stay at the Nana, as most people in Bangkok are aware of it's reputation. So pretty much it's truly for the sex tourist, traveling on a very low budget.

Mind you, NEP is also a dump and low budget, so it kind of matches.

[QUOTE=ButtLover]Hi ... i thik 50% of the guests living at Nana Hotel are monger [/QUOTE]

Don't worry, folks, 1,200 baht is not the cheapest hotel in Bangkok. I usually pay between 380 and 650.

Oh yes, and save on the monies for condoms as well ;-)

[QUOTE=Opebo]Don't worry, folks, 1,200 baht is not the cheapest hotel in Bangkok. I usually pay between 380 and 650.[/QUOTE]

Are you here to fuck or geting married?

Try a new one everytime, belive me a second experience with any is bad one, the sequel is never as good as the orignal .

BT

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]Hi,

Im travelling to Thailand in August for 10 days and would love the companionship of 1 or 2 ladies (depends on price) for the entire stay day and night.

I am all new to this. Can somebody point me in the right direction on who to contavt etc.

Thanks,

Big Yuley[/QUOTE]

Yes i found them in the parking, they were very slim, around 37kg ! the way i like them !!
Sorry no boobs-picture and names

BL





[QUOTE=Paulothai]Hi ButtLover,

Did you find these girl before Nana in the parking ?

Do you know their names, especialy the girl in pic0056
and do you have more pics (boobs).

Khob Khun Khab.....great pics !
.
.[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

Well, any joint which provide the same service provided by Eden in Bangkok? Since Eden is the only place I've come across in Bangkok ( besides Hell Club in Pattaya ).

Last but not least, any place to monger in Khaosan area?

Kittycat

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]I just shake my head when I see so much attention to Club Eden. The number of places one can get laid in BKK is beyond comprehension and yet people focus on this club.

I don't mind if the people admit they are associated with the club while they rave about it.

I read below that Club Eden offers 'fantasy' sex. Sure, if your fantasy is to screw 4's and 5's that look like meth addicts.

Again, speaking from experience and living out in Asia over a decade, myself and all my mongering friends have easily plugged over 10,000 women. I have only one friend who has walked into Eden and decided to use their services. This guy would stick his dick into a vacuum cleaner if it had a wig on it though.

Unless you are really into anal, too shy to hunt on your own and not to concerned about quality, then Eden is for you.[/QUOTE]

I can confirm that. I was once in Eden to see what they can provide. I didn't took a girl, because no real stunners there.

I like Anal and dislike lesbian shows. The girls who provide anal in that club are mostly the worser looking girls.

The new and slightly better looking girls seems to be shy and inexperienced.

All in all, my oppion about Eden was, that it's too expensive and not what I am looking for. The girls are even unpretty.

But, unlike HK Dog who don't provide useful info where to found pretty pros in Bangkok, I will give some info for those who are interested not to fuck a vacum cleaner with a wig.
For those who don't care about money, go to CM2 at Novotel. Good looking girls can be found there. Arabic ones from Marocco, Russians and CIS girls, Thai and even black girls.

For those who don't want spent too much money, I can recommend the Disco in the Nana Hotel, after one o'clock. Unfortunatelly they have just open until 2 o'clock! Also, good is the Beergarden in Soi 7, many girls but only few stunners. But, they can be found there.
The Gogos in Nana Entertainment Plaza looks this time a bit shabby and without real good figure. Though for those who like underdevolped girls, NEP can be a good place. Those who like curves on a girl, especially a round budd should avoid that place. Maybe should better go to Brazil. ;-)

Some notes from my last 3 day holiday in BKK.

Through customs by 1.30am. At Soi 4 (Nana) before 2am. Very quick indeed. Taxi from departure level. Readily available and no fuss with the guards. 300bht no meter.

Nana Disco is a meat market and a freak show all rolled into one!

Touts in the carpark offering after hour bars for late partying were reliable and friendly. 50bht for taxi which would only have cost 40 anyway. Drinks expensive, about 200bht a bottle.

Cowboy - Baccara!!!!! Full on lesbian show with total nudity on the glass ceiling. Very good and better than any lemon show Ive seen in pattaya minus dildos.
Toy Bar! Great place for having fun with the girls. Relatively cheap drinks and girls very fun indeed. HJ at the bar for small tip. Not great for shows or dancers but I enjoyed the different atmosphere.
Cocktail Bar! Same set up as Toy bar but with less girls.

Dont allow taxi drivers to drive you out of bangkok at 5am looking for thai lady houses. Quite dangerous!! :D close one!!

My favourite MP on Petchaburi! Brilliant service. Price for 2 shots 2 hours blows Nana away. Open from midday. (further details undisclosed:D)
Noticed that several MPs on petchaburi are advertising early discounts before 6pm.

Sid

Hi all,

Thanks for your advise and the general consensus is the same..Try as many as you like and keep one you really like for longer.

I am going to take the advise and hunt around these forums for areas to look out for and play it by ear (or maybe dick should I say).

And one thing re the hotels and resorts etc.

If i stay at a reasonable clasy resort on one of the beach areas is the hotel going to make a big deal if i go out for the night and come back with a hot young thai lady to join me for the night?

Do I book for 2 adults?

Again thanks for your advise one and all.

Just want to say hello to everyone! I am sitting in my hotel at Soi 5 and smiling all over my face. Here I am in LOS in a nice and friendly hotel, with a perfect girl for me and having just a great time.

Work from my room on my computer thru internet, having my private secretary making coffee, drink, bring me fruits while whearing just a small sexy dress with no underwear. Just came back from Landmark having cake and coffee there and go to Summit Island this weekend for relax with my GF.

In one way I feel sorry for all the men that have not been here and done what I do right now!

Take care everybody!

[QUOTE=ButtLover]Hi
I lived at Nana Hotel last week, thera are lots of girls "around"
I pic up two sexy small girls to my room, i thik 50% of the guests living at Nana Hotel are monger

Regards
BL[/QUOTE]

Only 50%??!!

[QUOTE=DG69]I can confirm that. I was once in Eden to see what they can provide. I didn't took a girl, because no real stunners there.

I like Anal and dislike lesbian shows. The girls who provide anal in that club are mostly the worser looking girls.

The new and slightly better looking girls seems to be shy and inexperienced.

All in all, my oppion about Eden was, that it's too expensive and not what I am looking for. The girls are even unpretty.

But, unlike HK Dog who don't provide useful info where to found pretty pros in Bangkok, I will give some info for those who are interested not to fuck a vacum cleaner with a wig.
For those who don't care about money, go to CM2 at Novotel. Good looking girls can be found there. Arabic ones from Marocco, Russians and CIS girls, Thai and even black girls.

For those who don't want spent too much money, I can recommend the Disco in the Nana Hotel, after one o'clock. Unfortunatelly they have just open until 2 o'clock! Also, good is the Beergarden in Soi 7, many girls but only few stunners. But, they can be found there.
The Gogos in Nana Entertainment Plaza looks this time a bit shabby and without real good figure. Though for those who like underdevolped girls, NEP can be a good place. Those who like curves on a girl, especially a round budd should avoid that place. Maybe should better go to Brazil. ;-)[/QUOTE]


Hi
Last time i was at Edens , i just choosed one girl ! the price is the same as for two.
The girls name was Ena or something ,and she was very good looking.!
I had one of the best sex in my lifetime with her !!
She was playing with her pussy wile looking me deap in my eyes long time, she opend her pussy maximum with her fingers!!
At the end i fucked her in the ass wile i was playing with a dildo in her pussy at the same time.
I can rekommend her gentlemen !!
BL

Hello
Here are some more pictures from Bangkok !
BL

[QUOTE=ButtLover]Hello
Here are some more pictures from Bangkok !
BL[/QUOTE]


Some really good pics mate, you quite clearly filled her up and get her all lubed up. Good to see some variation on some of the pics. Although next time the photo gallery is a better place for them.

[QUOTE=Jc373]Some really good pics mate, you quite clearly filled her up and get her all lubed up. Good to see some variation on some of the pics. Although next time the photo gallery is a better place for them.[/QUOTE]

By the way.. i was not alone with the girl !!!

BL

[QUOTE=Kittycat]Hi all,

Well, any joint which provide the same service provided by Eden in Bangkok? Since Eden is the only place I've come across in Bangkok ( besides Hell Club in Pattaya ).

Last but not least, any place to monger in Khaosan area?

Kittycat[/QUOTE]There is a search button at the top of the forum. Please use it ;)

This is a few tips mostly for our tourist visitors:

Make sure you prepare yourseves for Songkran.
Songkran is the Thais New Year and they celebrate it by Throwing water at people.

1. Be ready to be wet.
2. Do not be agressive towards people who spray you with water.
3. Keep smiling! Songkran is a Big Party and as the Thais say : Sanook.

I always end up wandering around during songkran so obviously I get more than my share of water LOL.

I however try to prepare myself the best possible way:

1. I buy a cheap cellphone from MBK (300thb) that i use for Songkran, so if water goes inside, I don't care!
2. Always have enough cash with you, do not take your credit card
3. Keep your valuables (phone, Wallet...) in a plastic bag in your pocket.
4. wear clothes that dry fast (swimming shorts, t-shirt)
5. Avoid walking around shirtless, this is rude
6, you can also have an extra T-shirt with you in the plastic bag.

Avoid Moto-taxis and TukTuks, they are highly dangerous because people will be throwing water at you and the driver and not think that the bike might lose its balance and crash.

The bars will be open for Songkran, it is seen as high season. Besides, most girls will be working. If they miss a day at the bar, the bars charge them 400 thb per day they are missing.

Expect a lot of ladies to be working and partying.

Most of all, Have Fun!

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Hey Guys,

I realize the newbie questions get irritating but me & a co-worker are headed for an overnight stay in bangkok and I am interested in getting some quality tail, (at least 7-10 range) We will be staying at a 5 star hotel and I was wondering if girls can be sought after in hotel bars & lunges. Also, if any of you guys know where we can score some Eastern Europeans (Russians, Bulgarians, Pols, etc) that would be great.

Thanks to all for the valuable info!

Gentlemen,

I'm looking for club or bar Cameroon, which is I think on Sukhumvit. Can somebody tell me where is it roughly?

Does anyone know when songkran takes place, how long does it last?
thanks!

Quote from Sid

My favourite MP on Petchaburi! Brilliant service. Price for 2 shots 2 hours blows Nana away. Open from midday. (further details undisclosed:D)

Noticed that several MPs on petchaburi are advertising early discounts before 6pm.

Sid[/QUOTE]What is the name of your favourite MP on Petchaburi that offers such good service? I would like to give it a try.

Best wishes,

Gangles

[QUOTE=Samu Ray]Does anyone know when songkran takes place, how long does it last?
thanks![/QUOTE]



to samus ray



April 12=15 get ready to get wet and dirty.





fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Kimba]Hey Guys,

I realize the newbie questions get irritating but me & a co-worker are headed for an overnight stay in bangkok and I am interested in getting some quality tail, (at least 7-10 range)......................

Thanks to all for the valuable info![/QUOTE]
Newbie questions are IRRITATING when the poster wants to be really lazy and expects others to do their work. They are NOT IRRITATING when an RTFF has been done and the poster has additional questions which were not answered after his research.

So, RTFF first because all your questions have been answered in the last couple of months. If don't know how to RTFF then we would be pleased to show you how. For starters, start with the search button in the top bar.

BTW all non-Thai hookers have been deported from Thailand. None left as of this Monday.

BTW all non-Thai hookers have been deported from Thailand. None left as of this Monday.[/QUOTE]Any idea why? So, no more ruskies at CM2?

Are you serious has this really happened, because if ithas then it would really take out one element of fun from my agenda?

Please elaborate.

Bt

BTW all non-Thai hookers have been deported from Thailand. None left as of this Monday.[/QUOTE]

Dear all,

I am not very conversant with the new airport, please tell me whether there is a prepaid taxi sevice outside the airport as was the case with the older airport or is it better to take a taxi from the departure level, my flight arrives early morning and I am not sure whether there will be a lot of taxis to go early morning.

Also from Bangkok city where can one find a bus to bamgkok, is the ekkamai bus terminal the best place or are there other places as well, please suggest.

Thanks

BT

[QUOTE=ButtLover]Hi,

Last time I was at Edens, I just choosed one girl! The price is the same as for two.

The girls name was Ena or something, and she was very good looking. ! I had one of the best sex in my lifetime with her!

She was playing with her pussy wile looking me deap in my eyes long time, she opend her pussy maximum with her fingers!

At the end I fucked her in the ass wile I was playing with a dildo in her pussy at the same time.

I can rekommend her gentlemen!

BL[/QUOTE]Hi Buttlover,

I am glad that you had a great time in Eden and I have no doubt that the girls there are very experienced and willing. When I was there one girl gave me immediatly a very deep french kiss after I showed some interest on her. The owner told me that she can provide deep throat and makes Anal. Just the other girl I choosed was not available and I said I will come again the next day, what I not did.

About the look of the girls, that is something different. If you had a pretty girl good for you. But, from your photos you post I guess we have not the same taste. I like the light skinned girls, with good proportions. Will say round hips, small waist, long legs, round and firm butt and tits. The face should be pretty as well. I don't like flat faces, I prefer delicately chiselled features. I know this combination is difficult to find in Thailand and even more if this girl should also agree to make anal.

It's really not easy to fine such a girl, I can tell you, but that is for me the thrill of the game. To find any girl in Thailand is very easy, it's already boring and I like the challange.

The day before yesterday I had a girl (22 years old) with a very beautiful face. Half Chinese, half Thai. But, with a very tiny body. She stops growing when she was 13 because of a disease. Her body was firm and she had nice round, but small tits. The skin was like silk and her pussy was really very tight. Need to use lubricant. Well, anal wasn't possible, because she was very new in the business and had not much experience. Also, she has not the voluptuous body I like.

Four days before I had a girl with a very great body and face. Half Chinese, quarter Burmese and quarter Thai. She was very good in bed and had even a nice face. I would still be with her, just because of some reason I don't really understand she has some problems with her friend and need often to meet her and I don't like that. I prefer if a girl don't care about her friend if she is together with me.

Well, as you can see I prefer mixed raced girls in Thailand, since the pure Thai girls are often not according my taste. Well the girl with the most prettiest face I had in Thailand was half Indian half Thai.

Good info.. just minor correction- the disco in Nana Hotel doesn't close at 2am, I was there until at least 3am last time.. yes, as someone said it is a meat market and freak show rolled into one. Some dudes were in there wearing sandals with socks (or worse).. be prepared. There's also a 400bt cover charge, that gets you a drink.

True about Nana.. some of the girls could do with more food. I pulled a very nice one 8/10, however, out of Angel Witch.. I have to say I enjoyed Angel Witch the most, last time I was there. Rainbow 4 did nothing for me, and Rainbow 2 had a lot of girls who were all so/so.


[QUOTE=DG69]
For those who don't want spent too much money, I can recommend the Disco in the Nana Hotel, after one o'clock. Unfortunatelly they have just open until 2 o'clock! Also, good is the Beergarden in Soi 7, many girls but only few stunners. But, they can be found there.
The Gogos in Nana Entertainment Plaza looks this time a bit shabby and without real good figure. Though for those who like underdevolped girls, NEP can be a good place. Those who like curves on a girl, especially a round budd should avoid that place. Maybe should better go to Brazil. ;-)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Duniawala]BTW all non-Thai [b]hookers[/b] have been deported from Thailand. None left as of this Monday.[/QUOTE]There are no hookers in Thailand. Prostitution is highly illegal here. :)

visited the soi 33 bars (which i never really cared for) and i can now say again for sure that i am not a big fan of these bars.

my colleague is a soi 33 lover and kind of forces me to go there with him for a couple drinks. so there we are strolling down the soi passed the novotel and enter one of the bars on the same side.

don’t really remember the name but probably named after a dead painter (lol). there is a pool table and the ladies are all dressed in red, the place isn’t very appealing but at least the girls are not pushy. my colleague has been in this bar before, 2 girls cuddle and kiss him as if they were his girlfriends (maybe they were). i scan the place and although the dress code is better than other bar areas (nana, cowboy) the ladies inside these dresses are not much better looking. same same. different outfit.

i beg my colleague to make a move and he reluctantly agrees, direction monet? or dali? whatever, the place close to the basilico restaurant. chicks look good all dressed in black. we sit on one of the sofas and an older woman (i assume the mamasan) greets my colleague as a vip and throw a couple girls to keep us company.

the lady i had beside me was young, and very cute. the black dress she was wearing was making her look like a prom queen. i was kind of starting to enjoy this place, well, that was until she opened her mouth. god she was boring! i can appreciate the fact that she is forced to sit there with countless blokes every night, make conversation, but, i am sorry to say she had the iq of a 5 year old. her english was fairly decent but damn she was just so empty on the inside.

i did not want to be rude so i politely told her that i am only here for a drink and not looking for any further entertainment. surprisingly she seemed to wake up a little and told me that she liked me and that she really would like to go out the bar with me to eat something and go dancing. yeah yeah yeah. thanks but no thanks.

i (once again) told my colleague to move but he was in such good company that he did not want to leave yet. fine, i paid the whole tab and took off.

i was a little tired of gogo bars and for a split second thought about going to pay my respects to giotto over at livingstones, but it was after midnight and i did not know if he was still there. or who to ask for once i enter the bar (certainly not the name "giotto" lol)

i badly needed to release a little sperm so jumped on a bike and went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. a nice brochette of ladies was still on offer outside, i decided to go with "oil" which left me satisfied the last time i took her.

we go upstairs and she already giggles. she says "i know you like slow & gentle, and take time to come". that comment actually impressed me, honestly. it has been a long time since i took her and she must blow countless amount of dicks everyday. how could she remember what i like? and i’m not even one of her regulars. truly amazing.

she proceeds with the usual cleaning ritual and removes her top without me asking. she gently presses her breasts against my already hard member and gives me a delightful breast massage. i am panicking a little bit because she didn’t even put my dick in her mouth yet and i am already close to coming.

i ask her to stop and sit beside me on the couch while i rub her tits. she is surprised. and ask me if i want sex. i decline so she kneels and goes back to her task.

it takes ma as little as 5 minutes to come in her mouth and she continues sucking until well after i finished. she leaves to wash herself and come back asking me "why you come so fast today? " i told her i’m very horny and she laughs. "better for me. i like when customer come quick quick" and she burst out laughing. i really like this girl, her body is not great but maybe one day, after enough beers i’ll take her up on the sex offer. who knows. once the blood fills up the ******, the brain loses its ability to control my actions.

total damage: 1, 000 (700 for the house, 300 for her)

When I wake up horny, an early morning Blowjob is just what I need! For that, you can’t beat SOL. Star of Light on Patpong II opens its doors to customers at 9am. So there I am, waiting at the bar for the lady to finish setting up so that she can service me. As the time gets closer to 9, a few more ladies show up. Usually, as a courtesy, you should take the lady who opened the bar, but it’s your money so it’s your choice.

Don’t remember her name but I took the lady who was there first. She was very happy because she said that when they open the bar, if they have a customer right away it’s good luck.

She tries to get me to relax on the couch, which I do, I order drinks (Orange for both of us) and she cuddles, kissing my neck and rubbing my dick (still clothed. But not for long). Another girl approaches and asks if I would like 2 ladies (very common at SOL). I do not really feel like it so I tell her that 1 lady is ok but if she decides to participate she would get a tip (used this before and it actually works out well. Usually the lady will stay and service you for a tip, and you don’t have to pay the extra 700 for second person).

She stays so I buy her a drink as well. We talk a little and a third gal comes to join but I politely make it clear that it is getting a little crowded on the couch.

More talking and at some point I have a pair of tits in my mouth, a pussy at the end of my fingers and can feel my Fly opening (zipper down LOL). I can’t really express myself clearly with a nipple down my throat and before I can say anything, I feel one of the ladies is already sucking away.

I am not a fan of exhibitionism so being there, on the couch, pants down for all to see is not very much of a turn-on. I manage to free myself from the opulent tit in my mouth (without choking LOL) and ask the happy bunch if we can carry on the party in the Toilet?

"you shy"? Giggles one of them. "Yes, I am" I laugh. Doesn’t seem to bother anyone so we take ourselves into the toilet area (not sure I can call it an Area since it is so small). I ask both ladies to completely undress and they do so without any question or resistance. One of them even asks me is I want to fuck her? "No, just blowjob". The activities resume and the tit comes back in my mouth, very nice feeling of being attended to by 2 butt naked princesses. I know a lot of people don’t really like SOL, its ladies and the whole atmosphere, but its seediness does not offend me one bit, the ladies (not all of course) are young and cute, very service oriented and always up for some fun.

I am drifting away from the main course here, sorry, LOL. Back to the action. Tit comes out and the lady who was sucking me stands up, Tit girl takes her place and right there shows me she means business with a great deep throat (close enough anyways). The second girl positions herself in quite an acrobatic manner since she manages to stuff her shaved pussy in my face. I can’t hold it very long and blow my load in TitGirl’s mouth.

Both girls giggle and talk in Thai, Titgirl is cleaning my dick over the little sink while the second girl caresses my ass and licks my nipples. I am starting to get aroused again and think about maybe asking them for round 2. But I decided not to hold on to that thought.

We come out of the Toilet and already one customer is getting serviced on couch#2. Most customers like to chill out on the couches and have a drink with the girls after the deed, some girls give you a little massage to help you relax even more. I did not feel like sticking around any longer (especially when a man 40 years my elder was getting blown on the couch next to me). Hahaha

Paid, tipped and left.

God that session at SOL felt like a Charm.

Cost: 700 for the Blowjob, 300 tip to the blowjob girl, 400 tip to the Joiner girl (as she does not get a % from the 700 fee).

[QUOTE=Freeman 418]Good info.. just minor correction- the disco in Nana Hotel doesn't close at 2am, I was there until at least 3am last time.. yes, as someone said it is a meat market and freak show rolled into one. Some dudes were in there wearing sandals with socks (or worse).. be prepared. There's also a 400bt cover charge, that gets you a drink.

True about Nana.. some of the girls could do with more food. I pulled a very nice one 8/10, however, out of Angel Witch.. I have to say I enjoyed Angel Witch the most, last time I was there. Rainbow 4 did nothing for me, and Rainbow 2 had a lot of girls who were all so/so.[/QUOTE]


Shure you have been in Nana Disco until 3 o'clock? Maybe at weekends, but yesterday and on sunday it closed at 2 o'clock.
Angel Witch I didn't like much this time. Found no real beautyful girls there. But, one time I came late (about 22 o'clock at a Saturday) and the place were packed with guests and no real pretty girls there. I thought maybe they are already barfined. So, I came the next day at 20 o'clock. Obviously to early, because also no pretty girls there.
Don't remember the name but I think it was hollywood a gogo who had 2 or 3 pretty girls. Ah, and the one waitress is very cute. She wants always get a lady drink, but she is pretty and that helps to forgive her greed for money.

Edit: Ah, want to say with the gogo bars it's like with the weather sometimes good sometimes bad. A Bar can be very good if there are nice girls and the next days when the girls not working, it's boring and dull. So, it's always a hit and miss. But, in general some bars you will have a better change to find pretty girls and angelwitch is one of the better bars I guess.

[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Some notes from my last 3 day holiday in BKK.

Through customs by 1.30am. At Soi 4 (Nana) before 2am. Very quick indeed. Taxi from departure level. Readily available and no fuss with the guards. 300bht no meter.

Nana Disco is a meat market and a freak show all rolled into one!

Touts in the carpark offering after hour bars for late partying were reliable and friendly. 50bht for taxi which would only have cost 40 anyway. Drinks expensive, about 200bht a bottle.

Cowboy - Baccara!!!!! Full on lesbian show with total nudity on the glass ceiling. Very good and better than any lemon show Ive seen in pattaya minus dildos.

Toy Bar! Great place for having fun with the girls. Relatively cheap drinks and girls very fun indeed. HJ at the bar for small tip. Not great for shows or dancers but I enjoyed the different atmosphere.

Cocktail Bar! Same set up as Toy bar but with less girls.

Dont allow taxi drivers to drive you out of bangkok at 5am looking for thai lady houses. Quite dangerous!! :D close one!!

My favourite MP on Petchaburi! Brilliant service. Price for 2 shots 2 hours blows Nana away. Open from midday. (further details undisclosed:D)
Noticed that several MPs on petchaburi are advertising early discounts before 6pm.

Sid[/QUOTE]Sid,

Any chance of telling us this MP's name?

Hi all,

In your opinion, which bars have the most beautiful girls? I had bad experience with many bars, where I couldn't find any pretty ones.

I think at Rawhide, there are about 3 very good dancers, while its sister bar, Long Gun, is so bad in terms of beautiful gals.

Rainbow 4 and 1 are also good.

What about names and directions to those Petchaburi MPs that "Sid" talked about in his 4/7 Posting?

This was also another request by a fellow member. He(?) asked for the names and directions to LT Pickup Joints that the Touk guys take us. If we can go directly to them, why not? If these places are readily accessible by BTS/Subway, we can avoid paying to those Touk guys.

Thank you in advance. I have made full use of this forum during my last visit.

Thanks a million to the moderator again and again.

Sidney

[QUOTE=Michael Jose]Hi all,

In your opinion, which bars have the most beautiful girls? [/QUOTE]This is a rather difficult question to ask, since beauty is in the eye of the beholder ;)

I like the girls at Mandarin (NEP) and Baccara (COWBOY), but hate the Rainbow bars (Espscially Rainbow 4).

[QUOTE=Michael Jose]Hi all,

In your opinion, which bars have the most beautiful girls? I had bad experience with many bars, where I couldn't find any pretty ones.

I think at Rawhide, there are about 3 very good dancers, while its sister bar, Long Gun, is so bad in terms of beautiful gals.

Rainbow 4 and 1 are also good.[/QUOTE]
Quite a good standard at Shark (Soi Cowboy) but mostly slim girls (not many with big tits). Dancing gets boring before long however.

[QUOTE=Scots Boy]Sid,Any chance of telling us this MP's name?[/QUOTE]Sorry Scots, Rather not put it out on the forum for all and sundry. Dont need any flames either, as there's plenty of other info included in my posts. I might consider PMs.
Sid

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]When I wake up horny, an early morning Blowjob is just what I need! For that, you can’t beat SOL. Star of Light on Patpong II opens its doors to customers at 9am. So there I am, waiting at the bar for the lady to finish setting up so that she can service me. As the time gets closer to 9, a few more ladies show up. Usually, as a courtesy, you should take the lady who opened the bar, but it’s your money so it’s your choice.
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God that session at SOL felt like a Charm.

Cost: 700 for the Blowjob, 300 tip to the blowjob girl, 400 tip to the Joiner girl (as she does not get a % from the 700 fee).[/QUOTE]
Nice detailed report Nick,

Its good to know exactly what we can get or what we are missing out on if its not our preference, and specially good to know about real early options when desperately horny in the morning with no girl in the bed.

Hey guys,

Finally scheduled my trip to Bangkok from Taipei, thanks for all your advice. We're going to go from tonight (Friday) through this Wednesday. Luckily we were able to get really cheap airfare at the last minute. We will probably just spend the whole trip in Bangkok, though we could go off to Pattaya at some point too.

We're staying at Livingstone's which looks like an interesting hotel with a good location.

I'm going to try to take my girlfriend with me most of the time and see how it goes. People here said that the places won't mind me bringing her with me. Also hopefully the national holiday won't make things too difficult, but we'll see.

People can let me know if they have more specific advice or want to meet up at some point.

By the way, can you buy pre-paid sim cards for GSM phones in Thailand? Where do you get them and how much are they?

Best!

Hatachi

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Nice detailed report Nick,

Its good to know exactly what we can get or what we are missing out on if its not our preference, and specially good to know about real early options when desperately horny in the morning with no girl in the bed.[/QUOTE]You can have earlier options on Sukhumvit Soi 5. There are always a few "people" roaming around Starbucks.

I say "people" because with 99% of them, you'll get a little more than what you bargained for.

[i] for those who did not get the point: I am talking about Ladyboys[/i]

arrived in into survanabhumi and went straight for the recommended airport authority (aot) taxi service which had either the thb1000 for toyota camry or thb1500 for the merc e class.

the smooth ride into town started my journey well as i checked in and then went straight to hana massage to look for rin which unfortunately was not available(2.30pm) and then took nog which i booked for a 2 hour oil massage for thb800. fuive minutes into the massage, she asked me if i wanted extras for thb2000 whichi politely said was steep and higher than the average prices. without a hesitation, she lowered her asking price to thb1500, and they say its history, why history, as it was very mechanical and sop. as i was already having blue balls for the last one week due to my heavy workload, went in for the kill and shot my load within 10mins.

of course the journey continued from there and went for a refreshing hair-cut and wash for thb250 and a fried pad thai thrown in for thb50. learning from fellow mongers on the forum, my legs took me to soi 33 and found teen love massage which had a ready menu for normal oil massage for thb700 to lotion green tea massage for thb900. as i felt i needed the lotion more than the oil as my skin look rather dry with all the flying and travelling.

pick "cake" from the line-up to 13-14 girls as she had a pleasant smile and a petite body with the right curves (if you know what i mean, i.e. the right curves at the right places)

she started the massage slowly in her bikini and took her time to pleasure my senses (other tha john thomas), however it was not be mistake as she coincidentally tocuhes john thomas whilst massaging.

after one hour, john thomas due the massage also covering "balls" massage, was standing in full attention and with her cfm look and sweet smile, i took the bait willingly and acceded to her thb1500 (all the way body to body and extras). she took her time to pleasure me with her b2b rub and by then john thomas needed attention from her little fanny(unshaven and full pubic) which i like in a women (with all the shaven pussies going around, this is my preference).

the journey proceeded to rainbow 4 at nana plaza, but was tired from the flight, went home alone but pleased with myself for the day.

this morning, john thomas woke up with a raging hard on and i knew the time has come for my morning breakfast at star of light (patpong soi 2), courtesy of nicfrenchy's fr. (thanks mate).

went to sol at around 10ish and then proceeded to buy and beer and choose a girl called lin, which was sweet and young with small curves, but to my personal liking. without hesitation, went straight to the little bathroom and then started the first bj of the day. halfway, another girl called nom came and asked if i wanted another girl. i said maybe later, but she still went on and lick my nipples and by then, the small brain took over and all hell broke loose as i was moaning softly and another bloke came in for a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], but i couldn't care less as i was on the journey to my morning delivery of semen load for the nubile young girl sucking the life away from john thomas.

after the deed, went to the couch for my beer and water, but whilst drinking chatting, the girl continued to rub my john thomas and lick my ear and before long, i knew i had to go beyond bj with the girl, and we wnet straight for the loo again. this time with another hard-on, i doogy style her for 5 mins before john thomas gave up. had to settled for bj and cim as i was already late for my lunch appointment.

a good start for the day no doubt and thanks to guidance from fellow mongers on the thailand forum. cheers to all of you.

fd

[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

Normally I do not post about the PM's I receive. However, I am too confused about this one on how to respond. I know what most of you think, but it was in all seriousness. So gentlemen, hope you can answer this mongerer's concern.

[color=red]are you cerrtain about the fact that there are no non thai hookers in bangkok/pattaya, how can you be sure, you are not in thailand right now, then how?, please elaborate, as i feel i will missout on something if i do not find them when i rwach thailand in mid april? [/color]

Many thanks

[QUOTE=Duniawala][color=red]are you cerrtain about the fact that there are no non thai hookers in bangkok/pattaya, how can you be sure, you are not in thailand right now, then how?, please elaborate, as i feel i will missout on something if i do not find them when i rwach thailand in mid april? [/color][/QUOTE]I would guess the lad is concerned that during his trip to Bkk/Pattaya he will not be able to find prostitutes of a nationality other than Thai (but I will assume he means non asian?).

There are surely a fair number of Russian Hookers both in Pattaya and Bangkok, the venues where to meet them have been discussed here already and can be found by using the search Feature.

In Bangkok Thursday anyone like to meet up . Rossie.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Normally I do not post about the PM's I receive. However, I am too confused about this one on how to respond. I know what most of you think, but it was in all seriousness. So gentlemen, hope you can answer this mongerer's concern.

[color=red]are you cerrtain about the fact that there are no non thai hookers in bangkok/pattaya, how can you be sure, you are not in thailand right now, then how?, please elaborate, as i feel i will missout on something if i do not find them when i rwach thailand in mid april? [/color]

Many thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Duniawala]BTW all non-Thai hookers have been deported from Thailand. None left as of this Monday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Noclew]Any idea why? So, no more ruskies at CM2?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]Are you serious has this really happened, because if ithas then it would really take out one element of fun from my agenda?
Please elaborate.
Bt
BTW all non-Thai hookers have been deported from Thailand. None left as of this Monday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]There are no hookers in Thailand. Prostitution is highly illegal here. :)[/QUOTE]

This might give you a clue, Duni, as to why you received the PM. ;)
I think the men in brown did an admirable job, rounding up all non Thai WGs, being able to pick them out of crowds at the Grand Palace, MBK, Chatuchak, and CM2. These guys are pros.

Is this report of all the non-Thai BG's being rounded up based on an actual news story, or what? I haven't seen anything about it on any other forums or in Thai newspapers.

Duniawala, you brought it up. How did you hear about this?

[QUOTE=Wendella]Is this report of all the non-Thai BG's being rounded up based on an actual news story, or what? I haven't seen anything about it on any other forums or in Thai newspapers.

Duniawala, you brought it up. How did you hear about this?[/QUOTE]

THINK! :D (This is starting to become embarrassing)

Duni, you started this fucking mess, I believe the time has come to end it? ;)

Though, for a guaranteed Russian WG, go to Russia, for a guaranteed Chinese WG, go to............ Yup, China

Duni, you have the floor my friend !

Yeah of course I know it must be false.

I guess it's possible Duni was under the impression somehow that it was true. That's why I'm asking him how he got this news.

But if he knew it was false, then the question has to be asked, why is he coming here and posting false information when answering a question to a newbie?

Help

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Normally I do not post about the PM's I receive. However, I am too confused about this one on how to respond. I know what most of you think, but it was in all seriousness. So gentlemen, hope you can answer this mongerer's concern.

Are you cerrtain about the fact that there are no non thai hookers in Bangkok / Pattaya, how can you be sure, you are not in Thailand right now, then how? , please elaborate, as I feel I will missout on something if I do not find them when I rwach Thailand in mid April?

Many thanks

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Newbie questions are IRRITATING when the poster wants to be really lazy and expects others to do their work. They are NOT IRRITATING when an RTFF has been done and the poster has additional questions which were not answered after his research.

So, RTFF first because all your questions have been answered in the last couple of months. If don't know how to RTFF then we would be pleased to show you how. For starters, start with the search button in the top bar.

BTW all non-Thai hookers have been deported from Thailand. None left as of this Monday.[/QUOTE]Let me help you on the rumour that you have started, if you see above you have quoted NO NON Thai HOOKERS left in Thailand, all have deported this Monday, . So obviuosly all those looking for NON thai (russians, uzbeks, khazaks, iranian, tajikistan and other CIS countries etc. Etc.) will be a bit heartbroken, cause all men looking for NON Thai hookers in places like the CM2, grace disco, the Vc hotel in Pattaya where these women are frequently found will be dissapointed, so if you do not have any facts (newspaper readings, webites) that substantiate the claim that you have made do not spread rumors and dissapoint others whose sexual prefrence maybe different than yours.

BT

Hmm that's weird, because I'm pretty sure one time it was way later than 3am and still going.. might have been fri or sat.

With Angelwitch, it's a bit hit and miss yes.. look out for Ploy, she's a stunner when she walks out in her "casual" clothes when u barfine her lol. She's around 24, medium build (just right), tattoo above breast, navel jewelry etc.. she will try ask 3000bt LT initially.

Rainbow 2 can be OK as well, if you're into younger looking/thin girls.

[QUOTE=DG69]
Edit: Ah, want to say with the gogo bars it's like with the weather sometimes good sometimes bad. A Bar can be very good if there are nice girls and the next days when the girls not working, it's boring and dull. So, it's always a hit and miss. But, in general some bars you will have a better change to find pretty girls and angelwitch is one of the better bars I guess.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wendella]Is this report of all the non-Thai BG's being rounded up based on an actual news story, or what? I haven't seen anything about it on any other forums or in Thai newspapers.

Duniawala, you brought it up. How did you hear about this?[/QUOTE]

I did notice back in february that straight after someone mentioned the Russian girls and Chechen mafia at the Raja hotel on this forum thread they stopped openly displaying them in the coffee shop. Such is the power of this forum. But you could see them going in the lifts so something was going on. Maybe the same thing is happening now.

I don't believe it. I am really rolling out on the floor laughing my ass off. Come on guys, are you 12 years old or a mature 21+.

I guess I have to respond (and stop smirking 1Ball). The latest news is that the new decree is that all the gogo bars are now to close at 9 p.m. So, for all the inquiring minds you need to change your travel plans and find alternate destinations. No word yet on the beer bars.

Very funny.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]I don't believe it. I am really rolling out on the floor laughing my ass off. Come on guys, are you 12 years old or a mature 21+.

I guess I have to respond (and stop smirking 1Ball). The latest news is that the new decree is that all the gogo bars are now to close at 9 p.m. So, for all the inquiring minds you need to change your travel plans and find alternate destinations. No word yet on the beer bars.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Duniawala]The latest news is that the new decree is that all the gogo bars are now to close at 9 p.m. So, for all the inquiring minds you need to change your travel plans and find alternate destinations. No word yet on the beer bars.[/QUOTE]Hahahahaha. Priceless.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]I don't believe it. I am really rolling out on the floor laughing my ass off. Come on guys, are you 12 years old or a mature 21+.

I guess I have to respond (and stop smirking 1Ball). The latest news is that the new decree is that all the gogo bars are now to close at 9 p.m. So, for all the inquiring minds you need to change your travel plans and find alternate destinations. No word yet on the beer bars.[/QUOTE]Your real name is Karl Rove and you work for GWB, master of disinformation, on loan to Thaksin who is now trying to bring the current regime to their knees by reducing the yob tourist traffic into LOS. Should I continue.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Your real name is Karl Rove and you work for GWB, master of disinformation.....on loan to Thaksin who is now trying to bring the current regime to their knees by reducing the yob tourist traffic into LOS. Should I continue...........;)[/QUOTE]
I think so, T1234. There are still some who don't understand the new draconian measures taken by the ousted government.

Do we all need to find new hunting grounds? See you all in Novosibirsk !

Hm, let's see. Some new guy comes on politely asking for some info. He gets told he's irritating for even asking. Then he's told a big lie about the info he's asking for. And then his private message gets posted publicly without his permission so he can be ridiculed some more for believing the lie. And now you're all congratulating each other for the fine job you've done. Um yeah. Good work, guys.

Rounding up foreign working girls is actually a lot more plausible than, say, Thaksin suddenly being deposed in a coup, or bombs going off in Bangkok. It's not ridiculous at all that someone would believe what you said.

I whole heartily disagree with the previous poster. A newcomer asks a question which has been addressed dozens and dozens of times. Is he too lazy to do 5 minutes of research, or does he just not know that research is feasible? Either way, no excuse for not doing the research.

Duni makes a comment, which to probably 98% of guys here, was taken for what it was. SARCASM. I mean let's face it, how the fuck is the regular police, or is it a special division of the "We don't want no foreign ho" in Thailand going to find foreign WGs? Are they going to accost every non Thai looking woman and ask: “Are you a foreign prostitute, trying to take money away from the LBFMs who ply their trade in BKK? Yes? Ok, off we go to the airport!!!.” Or, “no? Ok, thank you, enjoy your holiday.” Completely ridiculous. What is more ridiculous, is some of you actually took this seriously, and without thinking, asked if it was true. Now ask yourselves, HOW CAN IT BE?

Unbelievable and embarrassing.

Oh, and BTW, while we are on the subject, all MPs on soi 33 now have a new policy. No more BJs or FS to men over the age of 25.

[size=+4] NOT[/size]

I look at your post total -- you know it's not reasonable to expect everyone who comes here to read the entire forum before posting a question. To some of us, it's much more disturbing to see someone who's just asking a polite question get attacked than it is to see a post that's been answered before. That newbie post was completely polite. The reply was not.

98%? You know how many hits these pages get? And who all those readers are? And what they all think?

Deporting the WG's isn't implausible. They go to Soi 3, Grace and CM2, and bring them in. Not hard. A few places in Pattaya, same deal. They wouldn't all be gone, they'd all be on the run or hiding, which would have about the same effect. In a year with a coup and bombs on New Year's, it wouldn't be much of a surprise in comparison. They did the drug war. Rounding up some WG's would be a lot less work than that.

So you think it's cool to post someone's [b]private[/b] message on the forum for the purpose of ridiculing them? Are we in disagreement there?

First of all, I did not reveal whose PM it was.

Second, these were the same questions that the punter had asked quite a few months ago. He is no LOS virgin. I can understand a total newbie being confused (there were a few PMs from them), but a veteran?

As far as the irritating comment. I stand by it. (that was not this punter). If you are too lazy to even go through the FAQs, I am sorry, but you don't deserve a response.

BTW, to all newbies: there is a "Rookies Questions About LOS" thread over at Giotto's Forum. Dr. G will happily answer your questions.

The purpose was not to ridicule, but to tell the punter it's about time he took a little time to question the seriousness of his question. 1Ball has explained it all so I will not repeat.

BTW 1 Ball, you maybe right about Soi 33. The resident expert seems to concur. Apparently will start at the end of the Songkran festival.

Trav 1234, please do continue.:)

[QUOTE=Duniawala]...
BTW 1 Ball, you maybe right about Soi 33. The resident expert seems to concur. Apparently will start at the end of the Songkran festival.
...[/QUOTE]Sir,

The information is not confirmed yet. But what we know is that obviously only male staff can work in the massage parlours here in Soi 33, starting after Songkran.


Giotto

That new giant Aquarium Airport theme is to commemorate all the fishbowl MPs in Bangkok. The place cannot survive without farhang P4P money. Thai MTV had a special parady showing some old British Geezer handing over all his money to some pooying. This was Thai propaganda to instill pride in the pooying that rents her privates to support some Thai man's drinking/gambling/drug habits. Remember that when they throw rediculous inflated prices at you. This country is run by the Thai man. They will always have a male PM and the head royalty will always be a man. The P4P business was set up for and by the Thai man. You too are a man, and you too should be in control of your P4P venues. The girls on Suk and the Nana lot WILL ST for 1Kbht and not the 1.5K they are demanding! If they ask ST or LT?, say UP2U because they will stay for 1kbht. Don't give them the cabfare they always demand after you blow you load. Just tell them to get lost because if you give them 100bth they will want 200. If you give them 200 they will want 300. Telling them to get lost in an angry way will save you a few bucks. I kicked out two trollups for not providing their services in BKK with very partial payment (100bht) and both threatend me with ass kicking from catooees or cops. I just physically pushed them out the door. I was back in the room 15 minutes later with girls that provided the services. Remember that for each horny farhang there are 1,000 girls from Isan ready to go. I never tipped anybody except the straight massage girl this last trip and I saved a bundle. They are getting more and more demanding and pushy, so you cannot back down with them. When you walk into a Fishbowl and they throw an inflated price at you, turn around and walk out. You CAN shout at the girls. Sometimes that is the only time they listen. The "save face" thing is really just for the men.

[QUOTE=BuleDaddy] Don't give them the cabfare they always demand after you blow you load. Just tell them to get lost....Telling them to get lost in an angry way will save you a few bucks.

You CAN shout at the girls. Sometimes that is the only time they listen. The "save face" thing is really just for the men.[/QUOTE]Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the rock this morning. LOL

OK I just replied to an PM from someone about this. I've said my piece, and you guys can do what you want with it.

The gist of what I said to the person who PM'd me is that you guys are veterans here and get highly annoyed by newbies who post questions that have been answered already, that much I can understand. But meanwhile there are a lot of people (maybe even a vast majority) who aren't like you, who come here once in awhile or for the first time, who haven't read the whole thread and don't know they're expected by guys like you to do that. And I think there will be a steady stream of these kinds of people, now and in the future. It's a given. I don't think your policy should be to slam people anytime they ask a question that's been asked already (which most they'd ask have been, probably).

You pointed out the FAQ link. Allow me to point out the Rules link. If you click on that one you'll see that ridiculing/belittling/insulting are forbidden. It's called flaming. There's no rule up there that says veterans are exempt. It could be argued that veterans are the ones who should be most expected to be following those rules, since you're the ones who should be most familiar with them.

Neither the FAQ nor the rules seem to state anything about how newbies are expected to read the forum first before asking a question that might've been answered already. So it seems that the guy in question here isn't breaking any rules, only you are.

By the way, the Thailand FAQ doesn't give a decent answer to the newbie's question about Russian girls. It just says 'they come and go, better to eat Thai food'. I think it's totaly understandable to post a question after seeing that in the FAQ, hoping to get a real answer.

Another thing: the search on this forum is no good. You can't bring up a post that has your answer, you have to read the whole thread. It's not functional.

Hi Bros,

Could anyone offer me the information on - Mongering in Khaosan Road? ( if any)

Thanks

Kitty

Yes, I agree there.

The same ppl who flame others for asking RELEVANT questions, are the same dudes with post totals in the hundreds or thousands and yet each post is irrelevant and non-useful cr@p that I would normally find in my spam filer in-box. I work in the IT industry, and searching this thing is a time consuming task for ME, let alone some Internet part-timers. As a paying member, I'd like to more quality and less quantity.. helps the search engine and page scrolling as well, not to mention making the fabled "RTFF" a simpler task.

[QUOTE=Wendella]I look at your post total -- you know it's not reasonable to expect everyone who comes here to read the entire forum before posting a question. To some of us, it's much more disturbing to see someone who's just asking a polite question get attacked than it is to see a post that's been answered before. That newbie post was completely polite. The reply was not.

98%? You know how many hits these pages get? And who all those readers are? And what they all think?
So you think it's cool to post someone's [b]private[/b] message on the forum for the purpose of ridiculing them? Are we in disagreement there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You can have earlier options on Sukhumvit Soi 5. There are always a few "people" roaming around Starbucks.

I say "people" because with 99% of them, you'll get a little more than what you bargained for.

[i] for those who did not get the point: I am talking about Ladyboys[/i][/QUOTE]
Nic,

Thanks, I have noticed plenty hanging around while I was eating at the Irish Restaurant, O'Reillys or O'Malleys or whatever its called.
I never like to get more than I bargained for despite seeing the odd really georgous Lady Boy (not many really).
Getting drunk a lot around Soi 4 Pool bars a couple of weeks ago, I found it hard to resist a little stirring every time I walked past Farangs going with the lady boys, with some smart arsed comment or perhaps a little bit of an exaggerated walk like the LBs do, which is probably only funny to me in my drunken state.
Still I always wonder if these customers always know they have an LB, and if really that many guys are bi-sexual that they actually want to go with an LB.
Its a complete mystery to me.
Surely a gay man wants someone who looks male, I want a real girl, so who the fuck wants a LB???? Completely puzzling.
Do guys who like arse fucking and blowjobs care whether they have a real girl or not?

Sorry, I believe some of these issues cannot be discussed in detail in this Forum without breaking the rules, so I don't really want to know what things guys do with LBs, but I only puzzle as to why.

Me, I'm a pussy man and thank god nothing can change that.

[QUOTE=Wendella]<cut>
The gist of what I said to the person who PM'd me is that you guys are veterans here and get highly annoyed by newbies who post questions that have been answered already, that much I can understand. But meanwhile there are a lot of people (maybe even a vast majority) who aren't like you, who come here once in awhile or for the first time, who haven't read the whole thread and don't know they're expected by guys like you to do that. And I think there will be a steady stream of these kinds of people, now and in the future. It's a given. I don't think your policy should be to slam people anytime they ask a question that's been asked already (which most they'd ask have been, probably).
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I have been on this forum for a while and newbies dumb or naive questions (in somebody's view) don't bother me in the slightest.
They can be told to Read The F'ing Forum, or helpful members can even point them toward particular areas to search.
Please remember that many memebers are on here seeking to be irritated, annoyed or get into an argument as often as possible.
The members who look for trouble are best ignored totally.
I even put one such idiot on my ignore list.

The one thing I do find irritating, is people who PM me to ask questions that they would be better to ask of the whole list. After all, nobody knows best about everything.
PMs are for PRIVATE MESSAGES. So I want to see posts on the Forum for things where privacy is not needed. Abuse by PM is the worst of all and seems a bit gutless to me.

So please ignore the arseholes on the list. There will always be someone wanting to get into a bad mood.
Veterans on the list can easily ignore questions that bore them.

[quote=buledaddy]that new giant aquarium airport theme is to commemorate all the fishbowl mps in bangkok. the place cannot survive without farhang p4p money. thai mtv had a special parady showing some old british geezer handing over all his money to some pooying. this was thai propaganda to instill pride in the pooying that rents her privates to support some thai man's drinking/gambling/drug habits. remember that when they throw rediculous inflated prices at you. this country is run by the thai man. they will always have a male pm and the head royalty will always be a man. the p4p business was set up for and by the thai man. you too are a man, and you too should be in control of your p4p venues. the girls on suk and the nana lot will st for 1kbht and not the 1.5k they are demanding! if they ask st or lt?, say up2u because they will stay for 1kbht. don't give them the cabfare they always demand after you blow you load. just tell them to get lost because if you give them 100bth they will want 200. if you give them 200 they will want 300. telling them to get lost in an angry way will save you a few bucks. i kicked out two trollups for not providing their services in bkk with very partial payment (100bht) and both threatend me with ass kicking from catooees or cops. i just physically pushed them out the door. i was back in the room 15 minutes later with girls that provided the services. remember that for each horny farhang there are 1,000 girls from isan ready to go. i never tipped anybody except the straight massage girl this last trip and i saved a bundle. they are getting more and more demanding and pushy, so you cannot back down with them. when you walk into a fishbowl and they throw an inflated price at you, turn around and walk out. you can shout at the girls. sometimes that is the only time they listen. the "save face" thing is really just for the men.[/quote]

look its true that some girls (usually not the good ones) try all sorts of tricks to get a bit extra, e.g. the taxi.
some girls will go with you because they are desperate for money. it doesn't mean that they will be in a good mood if they think the money is too low. others will suggest that you go wank yourself if the price is too low. these ones are usually superior looking girls who can get a customer easily.
anyway a girl in a good mood gives better service unless a guy just likes to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] girls.
most girls i go with don't even negotiate a price for st. but i always treat them fairly and they are always eager to come back for repeats if i should so choose.
i believe in paying a fair price depending on services rendered, e.g. how long it goes for and how good a time i had. so o.k. 1000 baht for a minimal session (say 30 minutes), but if i had an extended great session for 2 hours of sex play i would feel i was ripping her off with 1k baht.
in my own country 2 hours in a brothel would cost me 10000 baht, and could get it for 5000 baht in a private visit of a girl i know. i would therefore think 2k baht would be fair in bangkok, less in pattaya. for a long time i pay at least 3000, but may increase it depending on how many sessions and how good she was. if she was really bad, i would kick her out early and get someone else.

[QUOTE=Wendella]
Another thing: the search on this forum is no good. You can't bring up a post that has your answer, you have to read the whole thread. It's not functional.[/QUOTE]

That's not correct. You can elect to display posts.

My suggestion is that before you post a question you should read the last 10 pages to get a feel for the current situation.

Finally I am here!

I arrived yesterday and after dinner I went straight to Novotel disco.

Arond 11 p.m. was full, many russian girls and obviously a lot of thais.

I decided to go for Thai.

Looking around I saw one wonderful young lady looking at me, so I decided to approch. After a little talking we went to the business and I was shocked!

For LT she asked me 7000!

I remember your advices, I mean about the rates (3000/3500 LT) so I declined her.

At aroung 1.30 I found another sme level and after bargaining we agreed 3000 LT + benefits (If you are good I give you a gift, I promised).

Her name is MAy, 24 years old, and she wanted to get her bonus so she was really great.

Today I went for a thai massage (classic one) and this evening I will look for a nice freelance, maybe in Novotel, maybe in Nana disco.

Keep in touch tomorow

Grifone

[QUOTE=Rambis Youth]That's not correct. You can elect to display posts.
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OK I have to look at it again because I couldn't figure out how to do that.

Alright now I see. I was using advanced search thinking that one would be better and more refined. Wrong. If you just use the more basic Search This Thread, it displays ONLY the individual posts in only this thread that are relevant. It's strange that Advanced Search can't do the same thing.

The same guy who sent me a PM made a good point, suggesting I give the poster advice rather than go after them... I actually started to do that and lost that post before sending it, then got distracted the next time.

Anyway, I'm not nearly as familiar with BKK and Thailand as a lot of people here. But the one place in Bangkok where I saw lots of white WG was in CM2 disco in the bottom of the ... is it the Novotel? At Siam Square, just next to a sky train station. The disco is in the basement of the hotel. I think numbers there must go up and down -- one night I went there a few years back there were just a handful (5?) of Russians (I'll call them that, but they could be from other countries, dunno). The last time I went, about a year ago, there were many -- probably about 20-25 total. Possibly more than that. The problem was, not one looked very enticing. There are some other spots that get mentioned, like Grace on Soi 3, and Soi 3 street itself -- but every one I've seen over there was Very Rough. I can't speak for what's available in Pattaya, but I know they'd need to be a big step up from whats on offer in BKK if I was gonna be interested at all. So you may want to go check out CM2, but I wouldn't expect much. It'll probably be disappointing.

I heard there's a Russian-staffed go-go bar in Pattaya, but also that it's an all-out ripoff joint. No idea what the quality of those girls would be.

The FAQ is old but is still very accurate. How many newbies actually read it before posting - I suspect very few. And if you yourself, newbie or senior read it, you'll find many of the links, tips remain accurate to this day.

The reports of distinction include tons of information, maybe even too much....but again the classic by Phuquer, although several years old remains accurate. Places change, prices increase but the overall status in LOS has remained unchanged for years...that is one of the attractions of Bkk. Even if your interested in escort services, read a couple of the other posts - most of them are informative and took effort by others to post.

The LOS threads are the most active on the international threads of ISG - and yes there is more than enough chit chat (mine included). But that doesn't excuse lazy newbies from taking the time to do some basic reading before posting questions. ISG is no different than any other public board, except, IMHO guys here are more lazy and more prone to throw out a question before making even the slightest attempt to do a search.

And Thailand has the most number of threads so that there is an attempt by Jackson to index according to location, specific interests/topics, etc.....compare say the Taiwan section that has basically 5 or 6 threads - LOS has 20 plus!

Is the search function perfect, no! But I luv it when someone posts of the MP re soapies and maybe halfway down the thread, someone just reported re the same topic.....or when a simple search gets you 10 hits.

My favorite is when someone writes in January or Feb: I'm planning my first trip to Bkk for this coming August and want to come prepared. Where are the best places stunner, for massage parlors, blah blah. Please tell me cheapest hotel near the action, blah blah....

Now move this to one of my favorite forums, flyertalk.com which is PG rated and probably the most informative forum for travel. A newbie posts: I'm planning to visit Rome with my wife for this fall and want to know the best restaurants in town, the best sights to see....WTF - are we now their travel agent AND tour guide?

If you somehow found this ISG site, you must have put some effort, right? So why not go the extra step and do some homework?


My apologies for ranting and raving....a little jet lagged, horny and in a pissed off mood tonight in HK. Long story....for another country thread ;)

And I promise not to discuss this issue again (except for the occasional "RTFF").....enjoy the rest of the weekend, wherever you might be.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]
I believe in paying a fair price depending on services rendered, e.g. how long it goes for and how good a time I had. So O.K. 1000 Baht for a minimal session (say 30 minutes), but if I had an extended great session for 2 hours of sex play I would feel I was ripping her off with 1K Baht.
In my own country 2 hours in a brothel would cost me 10000 Baht, and could get it for 5000 Baht in a private visit of a girl I know. I would therefore think 2k Baht would be fair in Bangkok, less in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]

What does the price at home have to do with the price in Bangkok? The vagina is not a 'free trade' item - they literally do not allow these girls into the US, and it is even rather difficult for them to get into Europe. No, the price in Bangkok is what it is, though you are certainly doing your best to increase it.

Personally I never pay more than 500 baht in Bangkok, though usually I must leave the Sukhumvit/Silom areas to do so.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Look its true that some girls (usually not the good ones) try all sorts of tricks to get a bit extra, e.g. the taxi.

I believe in paying a fair price depending on services rendered, e.g. how long it goes for and how good a time I had. So O.K. 1000 Baht for a minimal session (say 30 minutes), but if I had an extended great session for 2 hours of sex play I would feel I was ripping her off with 1K Baht.
In my own country 2 hours in a brothel would cost me 10000 Baht, and could get it for 5000 Baht in a private visit of a girl I know. I would therefore think 2k Baht would be fair in Bangkok, less in Pattaya. For a Long Time I pay at least 3000, but may increase it depending on how many sessions and how good she was. If she was really bad, I would kick her out early and get someone else.[/QUOTE]

1kbht and no more for ST. 1.5 for exquisite long time w/no cab fare. That is more money than the head nurse at the Bumragrad hospital makes. What we pay at home should have no bearing on what is paid there. You can get FS BJ with a nice massage afterwards at MP in most East Coast US cities for $160 USD. In 2001 it was 1-1.5K at a fishbowl, ST was 500bht, LT1000 and the Bht was about 40-1usd, and the girls were 10x more charming and sweet. Last fall I could get ST in BKK for 1,000 without question and now they are demanding 1.5k while the exchange rate blows. The Bht gets stronger and the Thai attitude gets more greedy because all these Americans don't haggle, they just hand the money right over. The place is well on it's way to being another Rio.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]The FAQ is old but is still very accurate. How many newbies actually read it before posting - I suspect very few. And if you yourself, newbie or senior read it, you'll find many of the links, tips remain accurate to this day.
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The LOS threads are the most active on the international threads of ISG - and yes there is more than enough chit chat (mine included). But that doesn't excuse lazy newbies from taking the time to do some basic reading before posting questions. ISG is no different than any other public board, except, IMHO guys here are more lazy and more prone to throw out a question before making even the slightest attempt to do a search.
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My favorite is when someone writes in January or Feb: I'm planning my first trip to Bkk for this coming August and want to come prepared. Where are the best places stunner, for massage parlors, blah blah. Please tell me cheapest hotel near the action, blah blah....
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If you somehow found this ISG site, you must have put some effort, right? So why not go the extra step and do some homework?
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I could not agree more. If a newbie asks 1 question, for example ”is the Grand President GF”? (and, DUH, doesn’t place his question in the hotel thread), he is just being plain lazy. It has been discussed ad nauseum, and he is expecting someone to answer something which he would know in the first 5 minutes of reading the hotel thread. While he is reading the hotel thread, trying to discover if the GP is in fact GF, he will also learn about the short cut from the GP to soi 7. He will also learn about a reliable travel agent in the small strip mall in front of the Ambassador. He will also learn of Sabai Sabai massage of the small soi on soi 11. He will also learn to insist on tower 1 or 2, as tower 3 sucks. But also to insist to be in a room away from the shrieking birds. (yes, that valualbe piece of information is in there). He might also learn that another hotel, not far from the GP suits his needs much better than the GP. So why doesn’t he do it? Pure laziness. When I see a question asked by a newbie, I often look at the date when he joined, and invariably, it is within 2 or 3 days of asking his question. He most certainly isn't going to find out any of the above information if he asks the question, gets an answer, and goes on his way.

So what did he do? He stumbled across ISG, realized it was a forum where people could ask questions about sex in other countries, didn’t think about the fact this site might have been around for a while, and the info he is looking for is already there, and he asks, “is the GP GF”? If he gets an answer, it is usually a one liner “ yes, the GP is GF”. So now he is off to LOS, happy as a clam, (pun intended), and even though he might have a good time, doesn’t make use of this forum, which is packed with wonderful information. If however, someone tells him to RTFF, then ask more specific questions, assuming he knows what RTFF means, he will arrive loaded with precious information. I actually believe answering such a question with anything other than RTFF is a disservice to the person asking the question. Of course, there are polite ways of doing so. And RTFF does not mean read every single page of every single thread. If someone spends one hour reading, with a pen and paper, or better yet, copy/paste into word, he will have pages and pages of great info.

I remember a poster writing about having actually printed the 5 days in BKK itinerary someone wrote about 1 year ago, (sorry, I forget who it is, I do remember it was someone well known to all). Anyway this guy had the time of his life. He had loads of useful information at his fingertips, and made full use of the information on this forum. He knew how to get to Nana from his hotel, he knew where the Beergarden and Gulliver’s were, he knew which bars in cowboy have nude dancing. He knew the best MPs, knew how to use the BTS, etc. He admitted that without having RTFF, he would have spent many hours wondering around, lost, trying to have a good time. Instead, he hit the ground running.

Duni’s comment was a joke, it was written as a joke, and it came across to most as a joke. 98%? Who knows, who cares. How many hits are there on this thread? Who knows, who cares. IT WAS A JOKE, and there were some funny comments as a result of it, some asking about the seriousness of the post, asking why it had not been reported in the Bangkok post, (sigh), some other realizing it was a joke.

Bottom line is, some may think Duni’s post was out of line, I immediately saw it for what it was, and even PMd him about it. (Duni, please don’t post my PM to you ;) ). Lets not forget the purpose here is not only to exchange information, but also to have a bit of fun. No offense to Jackson, but it might help to remind all and sundry that this is just an insignificant little sex forum for horny guys. Nothing more.

So as to not offend the puritans, I am going to try to ignore stupid useless questions by newbies. I am sure someone will ask, in the next week or so, if the GP is GF, and I am sure someone will answer “yes, it is”. All I know is it won’t be me.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]The latest news is that the new decree is that all the gogo bars are now to close at 9 p.m. So, for all the inquiring minds you need to change your travel plans and find alternate destinations. No word yet on the beer bars.[/QUOTE]Oh, dear. You misread the reports. They only close for prayers. At 10pm they reopen for softdrinks with ladyboys doing the pingpong trick.

Don't miss the cutie who puts a candle in his rear, a wick in his willie and burns his candle at both ends.

Hey Guys,

I just thought you might find it interesting to know this newbie stuff goes on all over the place. We just had a very similar discussion on the Argentina Private forum. Have you notice that newbie’s that ask for info without RTFF rarely ever give anything back to the forum. I guess if they won’t take the time to RTFF, and can’t even find the Abbreviations List, it would really be too much to ask that they find the search function. And if they did find the search function, surely it would be way to much to expect them to figure out that if you click on search and then click on advanced search, a whole new world of searching would open up.

Now, I don’t have a dog in the fight on the Thailand thread, but I am a Senior Member on all three of Jackson’s forums i.e. ISG, AP, and USA. I have over 200 posts on the AP, some of which are banters. Having said that, I’m planning my first trip to the LOS, probably in November, and guess what I’m a newbie to the Thailand thread, and I’m doing my research now, and if I have questions you can bet, it will be after I have RTFF, and I will try to give back.
BTW; IMHO bantering is a way of keeping guys that don’t really need the forum anymore around, it keeps them interested.

You guys have a good thing going here, and a lot of great info, Thank You!


BTW: I do have one question; does anyone know anyplace I can find some hot pussy? LOL (just joking) :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]1kbht and no more for ST. 1.5 for exquisite long time w/no cab fare. That is more money than the head nurse at the Bumragrad hospital makes. ...
[/QUOTE]BuleDaddy,

Bumrumgrad. And why not pay more, if it is allowed to ask?


Giotto

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
So as to not offend the puritans, I am going to try to ignore stupid useless questions by newbies. I am sure someone will ask, in the next week or so, if the GP is GF, and I am sure someone will answer “yes, it is”. All I know is it won’t be me.
...[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Well said.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Opebo]...
Personally I never pay more than 500 baht in Bangkok, though usually I must leave the Sukhumvit/Silom areas to do so.[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

It must be Syphilis.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Punter 127]Hey Guys,

I just thought you might find it interesting to know this newbie stuff goes on all over the place. We just had a very similar discussion on the Argentina Private forum. [b][size=+2]Have you notice that newbie’s that ask for info without RTFF rarely ever give anything back to the forum.[/b][/size]
...[/QUOTE]Punter 127,

Thank you, that is it!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Punter 127]BTW: I do have one question; does anyone know anyplace I can find some hot pussy? LOL (just joking) :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Yes, I do! LOL!

AT2

Punter127.
ask away, we will be glad to help.
You make some valid points, especially the one Giotto addressed in bold. A newbie who asks this kind of question hardly ever posts. I checked a few newbie questions, and some of these guys never log on again AFTER posting their question, so they don't even get to read the answer, if there is one.

As a Pimp German friend of mine likes to say: " Please let it rain brain".

And no, there are no cute girls in Thailand. There all are working in SIN and HKG...............................and South Texas Border Towns. (wherever the hell that is).
;)

Having been correctly chastised by a few fellow seniors for flaming fucking lazy newbies who can use google or whatever to find ISG but then all of sudden grab their dick w/ both hands instead of continuing on the keyboard and doing their homework, I thought of a few anxioms to post as a substitute to RTFF (aka Read The Fucking Forum).

This is not meant to start a war but a serious attempt at an alternative post to provide to newbies. If you find it useful, cut and paste somewhere to repost whenever you feel the urge to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on another fucking lazing newbie (did I just repeat myself again?).

Took me about 15 minutes to compose…sorry for errors, typoes and omissions – but there was just too much material to work with ;)


1. First and foremost, a plug for our venerable host. [b]If you can afford to monger, then you can afford to be a paid member of ISG.[/b] Pay Jackson the subscription fee, get access to PM and you will benefit immensely. If you don’t join, you don’t deserve any help here!

2. FAQ – old but accurate, here’s the link for your lazy bastards: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement.php?f=253[/url]

3. What I consider some classic Reports of Distinction – again POV
• Phuquer’s classic: 5 Nights in Bangkok [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=393008&postcount=2[/url]
• [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=563812[/url]
• [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=563828[/url]
• [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=2590[/url]

4. Specific interests: go to that thread and do a simple search, or read back last 5-10 pages….even the chit chat. You’ll figure out fairly soon which members to ask whch questions via your new PM tool ☺

5. Rookie vs newbie questions (and there is a difference): go to Giotto’s and there is dedicated thread just for you. And yes, Giotto is a pimp but an honest one! [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2615[/url]

6. Many hotels GFE, if in doubt, ask and you’d be surprised how honest and unabashed their reply will be.

7. Learn to speak some of the local dialect and here’s a place to start, compliments of Daddy and Mick: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=576887&postcount=118[/url]

8. Think with your brain and not your dick…use each god given tool in the correct manner: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=470629&postcount=79[/url]

9. Don’t ever forget: “You pay for her to leave after the deed, and not to stay behind. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=477731&postcount=39[/url]

10. Reciprocate and post a report after your visit, we luv to hear back and hope you become a regular.

Before anyone goes on about doing a search on the forum please understand that women are not migratory birds or salmon. Just because someone reported on them being here or there a month ago doesn't mean they are still hanging around the same area. That being said, I'm wondering if any of you have recently noticed Russian women hanging out near Nana plaza. I'm going to be in Thailand in a few weeks and might like to sample some white meat. Thank you for your time and attention.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Having been correctly chastised by a few fellow seniors for flaming fucking lazy newbies who can use google or whatever to find ISG but then all of sudden grab their dick w/ both hands instead of continuing on the keyboard and doing their homework, I thought of a few anxioms to post as a substitute to RTFF (aka Read The Fucking Forum).

10. Reciprocate and post a report after your visit, we luv to hear back and hope you become a regular.[/QUOTE]

Traveler1234,

Good suggestions. What would actually be helpful is a sticky note of some type at the top of each thread reminding newbies of the basic etiquette and what to read first, before asking a question.

One thing that is overlooked by the Senior members who did some of the bashing, is that for every 5 standard answers to a question that has been asked before, comes a unique answer or new insight for all but the most hardcore visitor. I only visit twice a year, so when a question comes up, I look to see if there's a new response or if things are still the same. I did get a chuckle out of the first "round-up" response, but it got old real fast when this started to go in circles.

I mentioned a nightclub I had visited just 8 months ago, and found that it has closed and reopened under a different name/format because I posted a response to a basic newbie question. Things change, people have different insights, twists are added. You have the option of ignoring the question! Not all of us mind the same question being asked again.

I had visited a few Montreal boards during the past year, due to business trips there. The feeling on those boards is downright stifling. Anything you say that does not fit their norm is immediately trashed. Newbies are not welcomed and you feel it. Negative reviews are not wanted. There's almost a Big Brother feel to it. It's a good old boys club and the members make it clear to any newbie asking a question. In fact, after a while, the reviews appear to have the same style and format.

Is this what you want? There's been 2-3 pages of banter due to one question. No new reviews, questions or recommendations. Seems like a waste of time. I understand that some of you visit BKK every month or live there and have heard it all. You come for the banter and the "fight club" mentality jumps in due to bordom. Hopefully there's some middle ground. The internet is a great tool for information, but the downside is that it creates an environment for rudeness that you would not see in a face to face talk. In fact, if some of the responses were said face to face to the wrong person, there's a good chance someone would be missing a few front teeth. I will get off my soap box, but just wanted it clear that there are some Senior Members who have a different view.

AT2

[QUOTE=Punter 127]Hey Guys,

BTW: I do have one question; does anyone know anyplace I can find some hot pussy? LOL (just joking) :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]Yes: Thailand!

[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]1kbht and no more for ST. 1.5 for exquisite long time w/no cab fare.
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Last fall I could get ST in BKK for 1,000 without question and now they are demanding 1.5k while the exchange rate blows.
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Are you an easy customer (blow your load quick) or a really difficult customer? I go for extremely lengthy sessions which can leave the girl with problems if she has a very small pussy.
Thats why some MPs now have surcharge for Farangs (because we do more damage to the girls, potentially.
To me this has a bearing on what price the girl will be happy with.
I keep her happy if I want to keep on having liasons with her.
Obviously if I don't, no need to adjust the price.

How long is your long time? I don't think many good quality girls are happy with 1.5K for an all nighter in Bangkok, but I could be wrong.
Some think that is just O.K. for ST (my ST is minimum of 2 hours).

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Are you an easy customer (blow your load quick) or a really difficult customer? I go for extremely lengthy sessions which can leave the girl with problems if she has a very small pussy.
Thats why some MPs now have surcharge for Farangs (because we do more damage to the girls, potentially.
To me this has a bearing on what price the girl will be happy with.
I keep her happy if I want to keep on having liasons with her.
Obviously if I don't, no need to adjust the price.

How long is your long time? I don't think many good quality girls are happy with 1.5K for an all nighter in Bangkok, but I could be wrong.
Some think that is just O.K. for ST (my ST is minimum of 2 hours).[/QUOTE]

I take a long time. A very long time being in my 60's and low on juice. Here are some dolls I got in Bangkok recently. My first night there I bailed and slept. It was a buddist holiday and the Nana lot was not so good. These ones are not from the Nana Lot or Suk or a beer bar. The next night Nana was great but I had already established contact and made offers during the day. I got one from Nana that used to be great last fall who wanted 1.5K this time and her cell kept ringing so I kicked her out. She was very cute but had outlived her usefulness and had some European guy online. Then I got the text from the one standing up on the bed. She was great and offerred to bring a friend. I gave them 500 bht to fetch food and let them watch TV after our first session and they hung for hours. When they left they got 1k each and wai'd me. Just girls that I chatted up at Pantip and Amarin plaza during the day. I gave them food coupons to buy them some lunch, keeping my distance, exchanged cell #'s and texted them over my way later in the evenings. They had jobs someplace as cashiers but I didn't get into where they worked. The second night I met littel Miss "em" over near Pratanum, and did the cell text thing. I met the birthday girl on the boat ride from Banglampoo back to the skytrain. Same thing with the cell phone chat. None of these girls would be seen in public with me and none would go anywhere near Nana Hotel. Often they need a place to crash and you can see it in their eyes. If they offer the long time you use reverse psycology and give them the Up2U. Then it doesn't cost extra. They reminded me of kids at a slumber party. Pattaya was much better than Bangkok for some reason, but soi 8 sucks compared to years past. Best to get a motorbike and have a pal on the back doing the survey. Still plenty of cute ones fresh from Isan.

I can see that if you're on here a lot that these repetitive same questions could get annoying. See, I don't notice those nearly as much -- and when I do I just pass over them. But since I'm not on often (ok lately I am), I barely notice them. I just scan til I find something of interest.

Good ideas by Traveler1234 and AsiaTraveler.... the existing FAQ might say READ THIS FIRST a bit more obviously on the thread title, so you'd have to see that before getting this far. I come here fairly often and have to admit I never did read the FAQ. It's true. A sticky at the top -- yes excellent -- some forums do that.

I've sometimes deliberately asked a question that I've asked before, or that's been asked before by someone else, for just that reason mentioned: things change.

OK I'm gonna shut up about this and take the hint that it's time to stop causing any distraction from more urgent matters.

Puritan? Wow I never got called that before. :-)

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]
Thats why some MPs now have surcharge for Farangs (because we do more damage to the girls, potentially.)
[/QUOTE]

Never mind the "WE". It's people like you, by your own admission, that are responsible for inflated farang prices. But if you are causing the girls problems, do you enquire whether it is they that are benefiting from the increased price. I suspect the girl gets the same rate whoever she provides service too.

Most girls when sore, through either hyper activity or a large cock, will ask a punter to desist, and most of us would do so. The inference in your post is that you do not, preferring to ply her with extra cash instead. Shame on you!

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]...
... And yes, Giotto is a pimp but an honest one! ...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,

OK, that is it now! I will retire! Pimp! What professional career.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Do guys who like arse fucking and blowjobs care whether they have a real girl or not?

Sorry, I believe some of these issues cannot be discussed in detail in this Forum without breaking the rules, so I don't really want to know what things guys do with LBs, but I only puzzle as to why.

Me, I'm a pussy man and thank god nothing can change that.[/QUOTE]I like arse fucking, but only with real girls. Nevertheless I can understand why guys try with a lady boy. Sometimes they look very good and from some of them it's very difficult guess that they are LB's.

Once I made this experience. It was on my first time in Thailand about 15 years ago in Phuket. I found there a girl in Banana Cafe who tooks me to her flat. She was the most beautiful girl in the whole Disco and all men wants her. She choose me and that's why I ignore the red light ringing in the back of my brain.

Well, to make it short, when I was in her room I realized that I don't want fuck her. She had natural breast (hormones) and had a pussy (operation) but, I was sure that she was once a boy. Just because she don't want go in my Hotel and some other small signs which are untypical for girls.

I used some excuses payed the price for a short time (500 bath) and left ther flat.

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[QUOTE=Aslan]Before anyone goes on about doing a search on the forum please understand that women are not migratory birds or salmon. Just because someone reported on them being here or there a month ago doesn't mean they are still hanging around the same area. That being said, I'm wondering if any of you have recently noticed Russian women hanging out near Nana plaza. I'm going to be in Thailand in a few weeks and might like to sample some white meat. Thank you for your time and attention.[/QUOTE]


This can also be true of anyother information posted on the board it can change and needs to be up dated.

I have been told that a lot of cute girls working in the department stores often hook up with men at night for around 4000. Is this true?

If so how does one know and ask these girls?

Thank You

Least I forget, here's another perspective from a different country/thread that addresses the original query that started this last round of banter:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=586753&postcount=5166[/url]

I thought the reply was most appropriate and definitely better than the proverbial RTFF.

I really like Thai girls but sometimes, for the sake of Change, I like to get myself a russian lady.

I understand that they are more expensive and sometimes less accomodating than the Thai girls, maybe a bit bitchy. Still, When you've had so many Thai pussies, a Russian one is a good change.

On another note, if one is in deer need of white pussy, there are quite a few Brittish and German girls hanging in the Irish Pubs (along sukhumvit)... Some are horny and might be available, if you have the time and patience to chat them up and buy some liquor ;)

[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Never mind the "WE". It's people like you, by your own admission, that are responsible for inflated farang prices. But if you are causing the girls problems, do you enquire whether it is they that are benefiting from the increased price. I suspect the girl gets the same rate whoever she provides service too.

Most girls when sore, through either hyper activity or a large cock, will ask a punter to desist, and most of us would do so. The inference in your post is that you do not, preferring to ply her with extra cash instead. Shame on you![/QUOTE]
At most MPs, the management takes 50% of the inflated price for Farangs which seems totally unfair. The girl should obviously get all of the extra since its she who is taking all thre risk of getting inflamed uterus.
e.g. Poseidon charges extra 500 Baht for Farangs and Entertainment Plaza 2nd Floor, 1000 Baht extra, which is getting ridiculous seeing the girl only gets half.

If only put up with the inflated prices when I want the girl badly enough. If she turns out to be real good, I then get her number and make private arrangements more beneficial to both of us without the management rip-off getting in the way. So I now see the EP2 girl privately when nothing else going.

Don't make inferences!
Your inference was total bullshit. I am not a sadist. I do not pay extra for the purpose of causing pain. The extra surcharge occurs at the start of the booking for all Farangs regardless at certain MPs. I always tell the girl to indicate if something gives her pain. I never desire to put her out of action. In fact I prefer girls whose pussy is not excessively short or narrow.
Not all girls actually say when something is hurting them a little (so they need to be told to do so). But excessive pain will make them jump.

What I was saying is that I tip girls comensurate with how hard they have had to work, purely to be fair.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]. I am not a sadist. I do not pay extra for the purpose of causing pain. ...........What I was saying is that I tip girls comensurate with how hard they have had to work, purely to be fair.[/QUOTE]

So OK you are not a sadist, but you could have expressed yourself better in the original post.



[QUOTE=Mick Licker]. I go for extremely lengthy sessions which can leave the girl with problems if she has a very small pussy.
To me this has a bearing on what price the girl will be happy with.
I keep her happy if I want to keep on having liasons with her.
Obviously if I don't, no need to adjust the price..[/QUOTE]


You state you have lengthy sessions giving some girls problems - those with small pussies. You go on to state that you keep the girl happy if you want future liaisons with her (presumably a nice tip) BUT you say no price adjustment is necessary (ie no tip) if you don't wish to have future liaisons with her.

So you have used her pussy excessively, maybe made it sore or tender but because you don't want to re-visit her, you just walk out, leaving her to contend with her sore pussy, without a decent tip.

No further comment!

One of the most ineffective methods of getting members to find info on this site is to use the oft overused and irritating term “RTFF.” If a newbie poster is innocently asking questions, stupid as they may be to you, he probably won't know what RTFF is or the poster may very well be a knowledgeable member with duplicate monikers yanking the chains of the Forum Guard Dogs (complementary connotation) to generate a reaction while ROFLTAF. You can post all the links you want, at the top of the page, bottom of the page, middle of the page, it won’t work; someone is still going to ask questions that will irritate the guard dogs. RTFF has been around since Thai girls were sincere and didn't lie but it still isn’t working.

Look at how many of the same questions are posted in the Thai Hotel Thread about Dynasty Grande versus Dynastic Inn and Majestic Grande Versus Majestic Suites, It just won’t stop, I am convinced that RTFF and sarcastic response to questions has about as much success as someone convincing Opebo to practice safe sex or is about as success as someone convincing Evil Penivel that there are better bargains in Thailand than Eden/Hell Club. You are guaranteed to see Domino back as the moderator of the Thailand Thread with TT as his loyal assistant before RTFF and sarcastic comments start to work.

Here’s my solution (like this is so original), IGNORE the question if you don’t like it, no one is forcing anyone to answer any question. If you ignore them, they are bound to go away. RTFF and the reaction it generates are about as ineffective and irritating as the newbie question. Remember not everyone is seeking or has a degree in ISG thread formation and not everyone lives here. If we are here to have fun, start by not irritating yourself with newbie question, it’s a lose-lose situation, If anyone has a more effective solution than ignoring irritating questions, post away, we know RTFF does not work.

Yes, and Yes!

A sticky section would be unreal.. every other forum has stickies.

Damn right, things change globally, and esp. in BKK and LOS. Clubs shut down, curfews change, prices change, some hotels are great for a few years then degrade into worthlessness, etc. etc. I've read things on here that are out of date after just 6 months or less.

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Traveler1234,

Good suggestions. What would actually be helpful is a sticky note of some type at the top of each thread reminding newbies of the basic etiquette and what to read first, before asking a question.

I mentioned a nightclub I had visited just 8 months ago, and found that it has closed and reopened under a different name/format because I posted a response to a basic newbie question. Things change, people have different insights, twists are added. You have the option of ignoring the question! Not all of us mind the same question being asked again.

AT2[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Run Mann] It just won’t stop, I am convinced that RTFF and sarcastic response to questions has about as much success as someone convincing Opebo to practice safe sex or is about as successful as someone convincing Evil Penivel that there are better bargains in Thailand than Eden/Hell Club. You are guaranteed to see Domino back as the moderator of the Thailand Thread with TT as his loyal assistant before RTFF and sarcastic comments start to work.[/QUOTE]Excellent. RAOTFLMAO! Im sure there's a few more we could fit in there too!!

I thought I'd break this up roughly by day, and put in some information which might help newbies to Bangkok especially in this report.

As I mentioned before, I am on a trip in BKK with my girlfriend. However, due to a long and painful comedy of errors, she could not go with me the first day, and had to arrive the second day.

When I arrived at the airport, I immediately went to the ATM machines to exchange money. They give a good rate and will take virtually all international ATMs. This is true throughout BKK. There were also counters where you could change cash.

A bit farther down on the other side there are lots of booths dealing with cell phones. I went to the AIS counter, which sells pre-paid sim cards for gsm phones. (You do have an unlocked gsm phone, don't you? If your phone is branded by your phone company its probably locked, and you can go through a lot of painful suffering to unlock it - good luck) The sim cards are 250 baht, which includes 50 baht of calling time (2 baht per min, so 25 min of time) If you want to be safe you can have them add on another 100 baht to the card right there.

I dodged all the people offering private taxis, went downstairs, outside, to the desk where you arrange the official taxis. You tell them where you want to go. I am staying at Livingstone's lodge on Sukhumvit Soi 33. You'd think they'd have no problem with going to Soi 33 as its a pretty well known area, but they always act really confused, you have to keep telling them a few times. They will tell you its a fixed 400 baht rate which includes the 50 baht airport charge and the skyway toll. Don't accept this, its too expensive and they won't use the skyway anyway and thus rip you off for the toll. Tell them you want to use the meter. They'll say "ok, meter plus 50 baht fee, plus skyway toll". Tell them you don't want the skyway. They pretended not to understand so I had to tell them like 5 times. I've been back and forth to the airport 3 times now, and its been between 180 and 220 baht each time, so the straight meter is much better.

To get to Livingstones, you go up Soi 33, past the Novotel, at which point the taxi driver gets confused. Tell him to keep driving forward. After about 100 yards you will pass Bacchus on your left, then see the two big tusks which are the entrance to the walkway. There are girls standing all around the entrance. When you actually walk into the hotel, though, its really beautiful. The rooms are immaculate and charming, and the whole hotel has a great tropical feel to it.

I was tired so I didn't want to go out too much, so I went and sat by the pool. There was some sort of event going on for Songkran so a lot of girls were in the pool. They kept wanting me to jump in with them with all my clothes on but I had to decline. I then went into the sports bar and had a beer, and was joined by a cute girl. I bought her a drink after a while, but she wasn't pushy about it at all. She sat and flirted with me for a long time for that one drink.

After 1am, the place shut down. It's strange that in a place as wild as Bangkok, every bar and club shuts down promptly and exactly at the legal closing time. Since the other girls were all gone anyway, I invited the girl back to my room with me, for 3000 baht plus bar fine. This may be a little pricey, but I'm not sure.

The girl gave me a nice shower, then a pleasant and relaxed massage, and then a great blowjob. She really appreciated the air conditioning and bottled water in the room. She tried to have sex with me after, but I was just too tired, so we went to bed. The next morning we fooled around and I got another great blowjob. She was willing to hang around for a while but I had a bit of work to do in the room (the wireless internet works great by the way) so I had to make her leave. She still stayed until around noon though, which is later than I expected. Before she left she gave me advice of what to do in the city. Its nice that Thai's have a lot of national pride and want foreigners to see good things when they visit.

At 2pm I went down and had a great breakfast by the pool. I was really impressed that I could get the free breakfast so late. The western breakfast is quite good, and to mix it up you should try the Thai breakfast too sometimes, which is a tasty chicken soup with rice and ground chicken.

Well, that was my first day, hope this helps.

Hatachi

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After breakfast I wanted to go get some cold drinks at 7-11 and look around a little bit. So I walked down the street the 2 blocks to 7-11. I had heard about Songkran but I didn't fully appreciate it how much the Thai's love to throw water on people. I was totally soaked from head to foot within a minute. Unfortunately I was wearing my slacks, shoes, and socks, which took days to dry. I was also really worried about my camera and cell phones. I got some plastic bags at 7-11 and wrapped them up, and they seemed fine. The rest of the day I basically hid in my room and got some work done.

In the evening I got a cab over to the airport to pick up my girlfriend. We came back, and she was really impressed with Livingstone's too. She likes the tropical feel a lot, and loves the lights in the room.

We headed over to Soi Cowboy between Soi 23 and Soi 21. Taxi drivers all know it by name. We wandered into a few places and finally settled on Long Gun, which put on quite a show. There were many naked girls doing various acrobatic tricks, along with some of the things Thailand is famous for, such as smoking cigarettes, blowing whistles and blowing out birthday candles with certain body parts. It was good to see the show, but I wouldn't actually come here to pick up on the girls. The ladies drinks were very expensive and they just stayed with the guys for like 2 minutes. On the other hand, no one was pushy at all, and we saw a 1. 5 hour show for the price of one beer and a bottle of water.

We walked over to Cowboy 2, a cute and fun bar. The girls weren't naked there but were very upbeat, sang along to all the songs and encouraged everyone to dance. They pulled my girlfriend on stage and she danced with them for a while. She was a great sport about it and didn't even get upset about the drunk cantonese guys trying to grab her (though they were pretty easily deterred)

The next day we went to go see the Chatuchak weekend market at the end of the BTS skylne at Mo Chit. Its worth seeing for the experience, though its a little overwhelming. Get a guidemap somewhere that shows which sections have what.

On the way back we took the BTS to Phaya Tai. We went out the northeast exit, then walked down Sri Ayuthaya for a couple blocks. On the left there is a huge soapy suds place called Chao Phaya 2. I heard this was a little better than Chao Phaya 1 on the right hand side. We went in, and my girlfriend and I each chose one girl from behind the fishbowl for the "body to body" massage. It was 1900 baht, and involves washing in a bathtub, then a lot of body scrubbing on an inflatable bed. This is followed by a massage, BJ, and sex. The girl was a bit mechanical but the soapy suds part was a lot of fun. My girlfriend seemed to have a great time too, though unfortunately we were in seperate rooms so I wasn't there to see it. The only caution here is that they ask what you want to drink, but then they charge you for the drink. Not a big deal, but it surprised me.

Well, thats enough for now.

Hatachi

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[QUOTE=Giotto]BuleDaddy,

Bumrumgrad. And why not pay more, if it is allowed to ask?


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Giotto,

Bumrungrad Hospital ;)

[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]None of these girls would be seen in public with me and none would go anywhere near Nana Hotel.[/QUOTE]

Oh. Obviously "Good Girls" then.

I'm in Bkk and have a toothache. Can someone direct me to a good dentist for quickie fix?

[QUOTE=Run Mann]IGNORE the question if you don’t like it, no one is forcing anyone to answer any question. If you ignore them, they are bound to go away.... it’s a lose-lose situation, If anyone has a more effective solution than ignoring irritating questions, post away, we know RTFF does not work.[/QUOTE]You know what they say: "arguing on the internet is like the Special Olympics, you might win but you’re still a retard" LOL

[QUOTE=Vantageman]I'm in Bkk and have a toothache. Can someone direct me to a good dentist for quickie fix?[/QUOTE]Vantageman,

Sukhumvit Soi 49, opposite the Fuji (?) Supermarket, a huge Dental Clinique.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Vantageman]I'm in Bkk and have a toothache. Can someone direct me to a good dentist for quickie fix?[/QUOTE]

Bumrungrad Hospital has a pretty good clinic. I have never used it, but I know many people who have. I use the dentist at JUSMAG because he is American. Anyone can use his services, but he costs a bit more than the dental clinics and the service is more personalized.

[QUOTE=Vantageman]I'm in Bkk and have a toothache. Can someone direct me to a good dentist for quickie fix?[/QUOTE]

I was debating whether this was just someone piling on about the whole RTFF debate or not. Here we have a new member with just one post. A quick search for Dentist in the Thailand thread yields 2 pages of posts in which some very specific information is given. Of course there are also posts that have nothing to do with dentistry, but it is quick to find the basic information.

Of course both Retired Army and Giotto were very helpful and provided information. I do hope Vantageman will go on to become a productive member of this community. A good followup from him on where he goes to fix the tooth and how it turned out will certainly be useful for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=Thor93]I was debating whether this was just someone piling on about the whole RTFF debate or not. Here we have a new member with just one post. A quick search for Dentist in the Thailand thread yields 2 pages of posts in which some very specific information is given.
...[/QUOTE]Thor93,

LOL.

It't toothache, man, you are really not highly motivated to RTFF if you have pain. Come on, let's have mercy.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]It't toothache, man, you are really not highly motivated to RTFF if you have pain. Come on, let's have mercy.[/QUOTE]Well, this is debatable... why use a Forum of Porn loving men to get such advice?

If he was in such pain he should have used Google, the answers usually come faster there ;)

[QUOTE=Biz99]...Bumrungrad Hospital...[/QUOTE]Biz99,

Yikes!

That is correct, Bumru[b]n[/b]grad Hospital. Shame on me :( !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Thor93,

LOL.

It't toothache, man, you are really not highly motivated to RTFF if you have pain. Come on, let's have mercy.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

I know but my suspicious nature is always on the alert. I was nice and didn't tell him to RTFF, although that would have provided the same information.

But it was good information to research. You never know when you will need a dentist.

I’m not really an experienced monger when it comes to paid sex. So decided to check the bar scene in BKK. I’ve only spend a night there a few times on my way home after holidays in other locations. Was approached by one small and cute girl in one of the bars at Nana Plaza and had a few beers before we left. We went to the disco at Nana Hotel. Was a lot of goodies there, but I was already “committed”. Will stay at that hotel next time for sure. Back at the hotel she was not as eager as earlier in the evening though. Had her once before going to sleep and once in the morning. Not much interested in BJ. 2000 Bath and a 600 BF. Here belly skin a bit limply after a pregnancy. But defiantly the smallest girl I’ve had, only 145 cm. Stayed in Federal Hotel at Soi 11 Sukhumvit. Hotel so so, but GF. Didn’t even ask her for ID. Booked it because Lonely Planet mentioned it as a sexpat place.

[QUOTE=Run Mann] or is about as success as someone convincing Evil Penivel that there are better bargains in Thailand than Eden/Hell Club. [/QUOTE]

The day someone convinces me there are better bargains than Eden will be the day Hell freezes over.

Evil

[QUOTE=Thor93]I was debating whether this was just someone piling on about the whole RTFF debate or not. Here we have a new member with just one post. [/QUOTE]
My sentiments exactly. I know I have been vocal about newbies and RTFF latley, and now I ask myself why would someone ask such a question in a sex forum?
I mean the guy has been a member for 6 months, HE IS IN BKK right now, where dentists are everywhere, and he asks this question.

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]The day someone convinces me there are better bargains than Eden will be the day Hell freezes over.
Evil[/QUOTE]

Yes! That was my point.

[QUOTE=1Ball]My sentiments exactly. I know I have been vocal about newbies and RTFF latley, and now I ask myself why would someone ask such a question in a sex forum?
I mean the guy has been a member for 6 months, HE IS IN BKK right now, where dentists are everywhere, and he asks this question.

The more things change, the more they remain the same.[/QUOTE]

And if he had been reading the forum since he is sitting there in Bkk, it would have been hard to miss the whole back and forth about newbies and RTFF. But then is there someone brave enough to have read that and still make such a posting? It is sort of like sticking your head in the lion's mouth.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You know what they say: "arguing on the internet is like the Special Olympics, you might win but you’re still a retard" LOL[/QUOTE]

Well in that case there are many retards in here because we do have many arguments sparked by the slightest things, although some may call it a discussion.

Thanks to those seniors for giving me such good advice. Got my toothached fixed and now looking for some BJ bars. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I am a newbie to this forum and I am doing my research before traveling to LOS. Veterans go a little easier on the rookies. Yes we newbies need to RTFF but I did not even know that abbreviation until I researched it. I think some of the other newbies need some help. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Hatachi] I had heard about Songkran but I didn't fully appreciate it how much the Thai's love to throw water on people. I was totally soaked from head to foot within a minute. Unfortunately I was wearing my slacks, shoes, and socks, which took days to dry. I was also really worried about my camera and cell phones. I got some plastic bags at 7-11 and wrapped them up, and they seemed fine. The rest of the day I basically hid in my room and got some work done.

Hatachi

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Welcome to the board,
Some pals of mine and myself had posted about the Holiday in the past and all the recommendations about wearing shorts/ t shirts and sandals etc. ONLY if you went outside. Many enjoy this festival and others don't as they don't like being wet all day. I'd been there at this time of year 2x before and I personally like it. (But I'm a swimmer and diver so I enjoy the water). Also helps stay cool during the hottest time of year in LOS--again a plus. Stay loose and enjoy it (if you can). Remember they are all just having fun. Also its alot safer than Chinese New year or other Western countries celebrating with fireworks. In LOS, its only water so unlike almost anywhere else in the world. Enjoy it while you can. Wish I was there now.

BTW: nice GF you have. My ex-GF hits me if I even looked at another gal.


Cheers

PT

[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Welcome to the board,

Some pals of mine and myself had posted about the Holiday in the past and all the recommendations about wearing shorts/ t shirts and sandals etc. ONLY if you went outside. Many enjoy this festival and others don't as they don't like being wet all day. I'd been there at this time of year 2x before and I personally like it. (But I'm a swimmer and diver so I enjoy the water). Also helps stay cool during the hottest time of year in LOS--again a plus. Stay loose and enjoy it (if you can). Remember they are all just having fun. Also its alot safer than Chinese New year or other Western countries celebrating with fireworks. In LOS, its only water so unlike almost anywhere else in the world. Enjoy it while you can. Wish I was there now.

BTW: nice GF you have. My ex-GF hits me if I even looked at another gal.
[/QUOTE]Hi PT,

Well, it wasn't really a complaint, but to be honest I was expecting more along the lines of being squirted or splashed and less of having multiple buckets upended over my head. I came at this time since I was already in Asia and found very cheap tickets to Bangkok from Taipei. I'm very glad I came, and in fact the lack of the famous BKK traffic may have been good for my first trip here. Traffic was light the whole time, and the city wasn't very crowded.

About the danger: apparently during the holidays there is a greatly increased incidence of traffic death from drunk driving. Clearly I wasn't driving here so that didn't really effect me, but Thais do seem to consider the period more dangerous than normal.

Thanks for the compliment about my GF. When she wakes up I'll pass it along. We have a pretty "open minded" relationship, which has included her being with other guys before as well, so its not all a one-way thing. The main thing is that we're compatible with what we enjoy (not just sexually) so its fun to travel together. Traveling with someone who has divergent interests can be frustrating. She really enjoyed Thailand and says she would love to come back. She finds it relaxed and the people friendly.

Hatachi

Hatachi,

Thank you for the information, I have enjoyed your posts, please continue your narrative.

And I too congratulate you on your GF. : )

A report on her and another girl would be spectacular. LOL Type s l o w l y and let us savor the moment. Be descriptive. : p

Thanks to the advice from many mongers, my first visit to Bangkok went very well indeed. I was able to make a few contacts with some very nice ladies, and we text and call every now and then.

I will be back in Bangkok early May for a while, and I will try to link up with these ladies again. Of course you are never sure that it will really happen. If things go as I hope, I would expect to spend most of my time with the one girl, with the occasional mandatory side visits occasionally.

I hate condoms, so I very much prefer bareback. So I am asking if anyone knows of a pathology lab near to the Sukhumvit area which is reasonably quick, honest and reliable, where I can take her for testing for STDs.

If she is clean, then it is bareback all the way for me. If not, back to rubber days.

Your advice please.

So,

I'm strolling along Nana when I came across this cute, but pudgy Indian girl by the name of Amena. A perfect 3-holer for 800 BHT short time. I got the number if ya want it! PM me!

[b]MeatMan[/b]

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]The day someone convinces me there are better bargains than Eden will be the day Hell freezes over.

Evil[/QUOTE]

Monger on! Many of us have to go to hell steadily not to make that happen and finally save the world:


Is Hell endothermic or exothermic?

-If hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, than the temperature and pressure in hell will increase exponentially until all hell breaks loose.

-If hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over

[QUOTE=Gangles]Thanks to the advice from many mongers, my first visit to Bangkok went very well indeed. I was able to make a few contacts with some very nice ladies, and we text and call every now and then.

I will be back in Bangkok early May for a while, and I will try to link up with these ladies again. Of course you are never sure that it will really happen. If things go as I hope, I would expect to spend most of my time with the one girl, with the occasional mandatory side visits occasionally.

I hate condoms, so I very much prefer bareback. So I am asking if anyone knows of a pathology lab near to the Sukhumvit area which is reasonably quick, honest and reliable, where I can take her for testing for STDs.

If she is clean, then it is bareback all the way for me. If not, back to rubber days.

Your advice please.[/QUOTE]

Just go to Bumrungrad Hospital. Down Soi 1. Tht is an internationally accepted and even high performance place. They will do for you.
.... but do not forget, that some STD (like HIV) only show in tests after seveal weeks after infection.

Anyway, it is up to you and I wish you luck and fun,
Mike

[QUOTE=Vantageman]Got my toothached fixed and now looking for some BJ bars. Can anyone point me in the right direction?[/QUOTE]I have been living in Bangkok for 2 years and never came across such bars,I don't think they exist; but now that I think of it, I think there is a place Called the "Bangkok Hilton" and a lot of people there would blow you for free.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Monger on! Many of us have to go to hell steadily not to make that happen and finally save the world:


Is Hell endothermic or exothermic?

-If hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, than the temperature and pressure in hell will increase exponentially until all hell breaks loose.

-If hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over[/QUOTE]

According to the manager of the Hell Club in Pattaya, the number of souls visiting (and coming back to) Hell is expanding at an impressive rate.

Evil

For those who did not get it from his first post there should be no question now that this is someone yanking your chains.


[QUOTE=Vantageman]Thanks to those seniors for giving me such good advice. Got my toothached fixed and now looking for some BJ bars. Can anyone point me in the right direction?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vantageman]Got my toothached fixed and now looking for some BJ bars.[/QUOTE]Not a good idea. Dentists recommend not eating hard things for a while.

[QUOTE=Vantageman]Thanks to those seniors for giving me such good advice. Got my toothached fixed and now looking for some BJ bars. Can anyone point me in the right direction?[/QUOTE]
Vantageman, you might want to wait a few days before opening your mouth wide, and sucking like hell, you could pop your stitches.

I have RTTF and seen several fellow mongers raising the question if any action to get on a short stopover - either at the actual airport or the adjuctant Novotel or similar?

No one seem to have responded positively (or responded at all). Will only have around 4½ hour so too short to make it to city center.

Really nothing available?

[QUOTE=Masterplan]Out of interest 'senior members', how do you ever expect a newbie to be accepted into your little clique if you constantly shoot them down just because they don't have over 500 posts?[/QUOTE]Masterplan,

I can understand your argumentation, but in general it is not like that. Many newbies are starting with a travel report, and they are welcomed to the forum by Senior members. You will find many examples for that in all threads.

I agree that we all should try to minimize the RTFF comment, but sometimes it is too obvious that a new member did not even try to find the information reading only a few pages [or using the search function], and immediately asked questions which were already answered a few reports before.


Giotto

[QUOTE=J Korea]I have RTTF and seen several fellow mongers raising the question if any action to get on a short stopover - either at the actual airport or the adjuctant Novotel or similar?

No one seem to have responded positively (or responded at all). Will only have around 4½ hour so too short to make it to city center.

Really nothing available?[/QUOTE]

I seriously doubt that there is given your time constraints.

[QUOTE=J Korea]I have RTTF and seen several fellow mongers raising the question if any action to get on a short stopover - either at the actual airport or the adjuctant Novotel or similar?

No one seem to have responded positively (or responded at all). Will only have around 4½ hour so too short to make it to city center.

Really nothing available?[/QUOTE]

And in the new airport it might take you that long to walk from the gate out to the street.

4 1/2 hours just isn't enough to really get anything done, especially if that time is from when the first plane lands until the next plane leaves. At most you will only have 3 hours to work with. That leaves the Novotel as the only option.

The Novotel is not directly connected to the terminal as far as I know, so even if you called an agency to spot a girl for you there, time would be really working against you. But I suppose it could be managed. Just get off the first plane, make sure you have a boarding pass, sprint the 2 kilometers from the gate to immigration. Pray that a couple of 747's have not landed in front of you.

Get out of the terminal and make your way to the Novetel. My suggestion would be to call an agency ahead of time and see if they will set it up for you and have the girl waiting at the hotel for you or better yet in the room.

Do your deed and then sprint back to the airport. Hope the immigration line is not too long and then sprint the 2 kilometers back to the gate and get on the plane a half hour before it leaves.

I am sure it can be done. Just pray the first plane is not late.

And this would make a great report if you pull it off. I am sure someone could give you the name of a reliable agency to take care of it for you.

But I am sure it will be very expensive.

[QUOTE=Thor93]
The Novotel is not directly connected to the terminal as far as I know, so even if you called an agency to spot a girl for you there, time would be really working against you. ... Just get off the first plane, make sure you have a boarding pass, sprint the 2 kilometers from the gate to immigration. Pray that a couple of 747's have not landed in front of you.Get out of the terminal and make your way to the Novetel. My suggestion would be to call an agency ahead of time and see if they will set it up for you and have the girl waiting at the hotel for you or better yet in the room. Do your deed and then sprint back to the airport. Hope the immigration line is not too long and then sprint the 2 kilometers back to the gate and get on the plane a half hour before it leaves. I am sure it can be done. Just pray the first plane is not late[/QUOTE]

I'm stressed out and exhausted just reading this.

What happens if you 'accidentally' miss your flight? This plan just has way too much risk in it. Like, what happens if you do all the above, and the girl shows up and she's not what you like?

[QUOTE=Wendella]I'm stressed out and exhausted just reading this.

What happens if you 'accidentally' miss your flight? This plan just has way too much risk in it. Like, what happens if you do all the above, and the girl shows up and she's not what you like?[/QUOTE]

No, risk no fun!
But, I was lucky when I arrived in Bangkok Airport. The gate was just 50 meters from the immigration. I flied with Qatar Airways. :-)

Masterplan,

some answers.

[QUOTE=Masterplan]...
1. I gather May is the rainy season, I take it that getting a tan is out of the question in May?[/QUOTE]The raining season starts now, but May is still relatively dry. It will be very hot.
[QUOTE=Masterplan]2. I am planning to stay at the Dream Hotel, anything I should be aware of with this hotel?[/QUOTE]I don't know that hotel, cannot help you with that. Please check the Bangkok Hotel thread.
[QUOTE=Masterplan]3. I will pop over and visit your place as you seem like an ok kind of guy, I expect you to have some beauties lined up for me!(not a question as such)[/QUOTE]Appreciate your visit. We have a bar, the Sports Lounge, and there will be around 30 up girls. I will NOT have them lined up for you, but you can establish contact when simply have a drink at the bar.
[QUOTE=Masterplan]4. I have gathered that going 'casual' to Cowboy etc can work against you, what is deemed as casual in this respect? My standard attire for a night out is a nice pair of jeans, shirt/top, and a nice pair of shoes.[/QUOTE]If you go to Soi Cowboy NOBODY cares how you are dressed. Here in Soi 33 and in discos (Spasso, CM2 etc.) this is different. Generally Thai women prefer reasonably dressed men (no shorts, no sandals etc.).
[QUOTE=Masterplan]5. I will be flying solo, conveniently have 5 days to kill on my way over to NZ to visit my sister. So if any of you fancy meeting up give me a shout.[/QUOTE]There are always members here at the Lodge. Meet up with them!


Giotto

hello,, bros and fellow mongers

this is my very first report, (therefore lengthy) and i have spent most of yesterday evening and all of today going through all the reports and that got me to contributing. i must say i feel at home already. all you guys are doing a wonderful job.

i was in bangkok (first time) enroute to shanghai for a day in january. checked into the nana hotel at 5 a. m in the morning. from what i had read of the nana, i found the room to be clean newly furbished and quite to my liking. anyways i was not planning to get a girl into my room this time. i am choosy and i thought this trip was too short to get a girl into the room. i wanted to checkout the places.

i started off in the afternoon and tried [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s, it was early, and i ordered a drink, soon enough a girl sat next to me and asked me if i know this place. i pretended i didn't so to get her to talk and check her out, she explained the concept, the girl was 5/10, so i asked if i can select the girl i want, she immediately agreed. we went out and i selected a short but well built girl with a healthy rack (she was having just finishing her lunch. it was some soup i think). she had big lips, smiling, and great attitude. 6/10 on looks.

we went upstairs, her technique for average, but her attitude was great, more importantly, she had just had lunch, so the spices were lingering in her mouth and this caused a very different sensation i had never experienced, she stripped down completely, i fondled her all over, include some between her rack, paid 800 bhat, she offered to meet me later, but i didn't want to get committed so early so i declined. all in all good experience.

in the evening went to darling massage. fishbowl has about 10-12 girls. selected an great looker 8/10, petite, great simile, wearing a black gown and stiletto (i must tell my fellow mongers that i have a soft corner for sophistication). paid 2400 be, and went to the room, the room was below expectations, small, with very little light. there was a mirror on the ceiling but with so little light i could not see anything. the lady put on some romantic english music and we jumped into the tub, nice bbbj in the tub with cim, followed by a nice massage and fs to end. good service but the room was a disappointment. but will go there again (unless i get some better tips. i may be in bangkok in mid of next month).

went to soi cowboy later in the evening, had a drink in longun but i didn't like to quality there. the girls were on the ramp, dancing with only their panties and stockings to show and the place is not pushy at all, but i was not enthused. ended up having a thai massage at a place just off soi cowboy. the girl was attractive but the offer was only for the massage and i didn't force the issue. all in all 250 be well spent.

finally nearing midnight i went to eden (i had done a quick check on the place earlier in the day). got the lineup and selected a thai beauty on the left side on the line. i must tell my fellow mongers before i go further that i experience was not great. may have been due to various factors, i had already see some good action earlier and maybe was packing too much in a short time, or was it the ugly skinny friend my beauty selected, they kept smoking in the room, the porn was not my taste, and the girls chatted too much among themselves. all in all the eden experience was far for good. but i don't mind giving it another go after reading so much about it.

so that was my first trip to bangkok, i did all this without taking a tuktuk or a cab, if you are willing to walk, nana is a great location and all this is possible on foot. caught an early morning thai airways flight to shanghai. the tales of shanghai i would write another day (they were interesting as well).

i am back in may, would like to keep the routine the same unless i get some pears of wisdom from seniors. also i don't mind meeting others to go hunting together if that works out. the more the merrier.

[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=J Korea]I have RTTF and seen several fellow mongers raising the question if any action to get on a short stopover - either at the actual airport or the adjuctant Novotel or similar?

No one seem to have responded positively (or responded at all). Will only have around 4½ hour so too short to make it to city center.

Really nothing available?[/QUOTE]


Airport to Rama IX Rd is under B200 and 20 minutes under normal circumstances. A number of MP - Love Boat is next to Radisson, there is also Catherine's, Colonze nearby. That means unhurried 2 hr session is workable.

You didn't mention when you're arriving but action at these places around 3 pm (selection improves at 5 pm....usually).

Search MP thread for details on pricing, recommended girls, etc.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Airport to Rama IX Rd is under B200 and 20 minutes under normal circumstances. A number of MP - Love Boat is next to Radisson, there is also Catherine's, Colonze nearby. That means unhurried 2 hr session is workable.

You didn't mention when you're arriving but action at these places around 3 pm (selection improves at 5 pm....usually).

Search MP thread for details on pricing, recommended girls, etc.[/QUOTE]Still a risk, if you get into the traffic jam on Rama 9 you will miss your flight. 4.5 hours is not that much.


Giotto

Great idea. Definitely interesting to spin this further. Best would be an escort agency I suppose. Could be expensive overall.

Escort agency @ THB 4,000
Hotel room/day use (4 hours - Novotel Suvarnabhumi Airport) @ THB 2,500

Total damage THB 6,500. Mind you. Once in a lifetime experience and certainly something to rave about.


[QUOTE=Giotto]Still a risk, if you get into the traffic jam on Rama 9 you will miss your flight. 4.5 hours is not that much.
Giotto[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=J Korea]I have RTTF and seen several fellow mongers raising the question if any action to get on a short stopover - either at the actual airport or the adjuctant Novotel or similar?

No one seem to have responded positively (or responded at all). Will only have around 4½ hour so too short to make it to city center.

Really nothing available?[/QUOTE]
Your best bet would be to ring a Thai girl that you already know, and have her meet you at some short time hotel not too far from the airport.
But if you are not familiar with Bangkok, you definitely need much more time.
Easier to monger in your other destination country assuming its got something worthwhile. However I am going to USA shortly for a week but I don't plan any mongering there at all (at this stage), but you never know.

If I have a stopover in Bangkok I always stay at least 1 night.
Its too far to go all the way without a nights rest, no? :-)

Traveler1234 , MickLicker, Giotto etc.

Thank you for your replies! My stopover is short as heading of to Samui to catch up for a family gathering, thus the (too) short bangkok stay....

May try to sneak off from Samui 1/2 days earlier than planned and since have followed the forum here closely, certainly have a few places to visit. Giotto, your massage parlour update is fantastic - will definitely post a report or two on my findings!

btw, if not staying at Livingstones, is it still possible to Barfine one of the girls and take her off the premises? And what time is the sports lounge closing?

I find this whole stopover thing an interesting proposition. I am sure that someone who is familiar with Thailand could probably pull it off. But if this is his first time in Thailand, that could make this a very risky proposition.

I agree the best choice would be to break the journey for a day. That eliminates all of the stress.

As a very frequent flier, I would never leave the airport on a 4 1/2 hour layover. There is just not enough time and missing a flight is never a good thing. If you have checked bags and the airline has to remove them because you are off banging some girl, you may find the room and the girl were the cheapest things in the whole adventure.

[QUOTE=Thor93]I find this whole stopover thing an interesting proposition. I am sure that someone who is familiar with Thailand could probably pull it off. But if this is his first time in Thailand, that could make this a very risky proposition.

I agree the best choice would be to break the journey for a day. That eliminates all of the stress.

As a very frequent flier, I would never leave the airport on a 4 1/2 hour layover. There is just not enough time and missing a flight is never a good thing. If you have checked bags and the airline has to remove them because you are off banging some girl, you may find the room and the girl were the cheapest things in the whole adventure.[/QUOTE]Not first time in Bangkok but first time with so little chance to go anywhere, and basically unfamiliar with all areas outside silom/sukhumvit area... Well better save my energy and drink a beer at the airport. Must be some standard massage shop there.

Hello experts, with the current high Thai Bath exchange, who has update information to take a Girl Pro from BKK for 1 week to one beach resort?
Thanks for the help

[QUOTE=Sponsor74]Hello experts, with the current high Thai Bath exchange, who has update information to take a Girl Pro from BKK for 1 week to one beach resort?
Thanks for the help[/QUOTE]
It really depends on how much she likes you and how well you negotiate. The exchange rate is of no significance to her, only you. A baht is a baht to them, regardless of how much you or I pay for it.

As a minimum though you might have to pay her barfine, if she works in a bar. Beyond that it could be anywhere from nothing to maybe five or six thousand baht depending on the girl. To be fair she should probably get at least get long term rates for each day, but once again that depends on where you find her from.

You could call an an escort agency but that would be the absolute most expensive way to go. They advertise on the web, some as high as 10 or 12 thousand baht a day for what you suggest.

Why not just go to a a place like Patong in Phuket or some other beach town and find a local girl there? That would be a whole lot cheaper. Plus if you don't like her, she is easy to change out. You bring a girl from Bkk, she may be hard to get rid of if it doesn't work out..

[QUOTE=Masterplan]Out of interest 'senior members', how do you ever expect a newbie to be accepted into your little clique if you constantly shoot them down just because they don't have over 500 posts?

You really need to get over yourselves. I am a full member, although not more than a few reports as I have not been mongering for a while. I read the pages and know what I am talking about, yet just because I have a low post count I am descriminated against? Hardly fair. Give people a chance.

And before you start, yes I am a full member and I have paid the precious $19.95 to Jackson.[/QUOTE]


Welcome to the board,
Not all senior members are hard on newbies (although that's becoming an exception). If you read up on posts for some of the Asian countries, you will quickly find many seniors are more open minded and still remembers what it was like when we were newbie and will always help. I happen to be one of them by maybe a dying breed here.---IMO




PT

[QUOTE=Traveler1234], there is also Catherine's, .[/QUOTE]


Hi Traveler1234,
I am not in LOS now but may be back this Oct.
I dropped by Catherine's last year during my annual migration to LOS but it was closed (some say raid and others renovation). Can you confirm if they are finally reopened.
Thanks



PT

I passed thru BKK last week for several nights. I checked out Catherine and a few others, and Catherine was fully open and booming with Thai locals as usual. But the best cute ones have temporilily gone back to their border tribes. Papasan said they will be back again in a few weeks time after the management strike some deals with these new unform guys.

[QUOTE=J Korea]...btw, if not staying at Livingstones, is it still possible to Barfine one of the girls and take her off the premises? And what time is the sports lounge closing?[/QUOTE]J Korea,

Sure possible, that is normal Sports Lounge business and happens permanently.

See you here at Livingstone's.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]you will quickly find many seniors are more open minded and still remembers what it was like when we were newbie and will always help. I happen to be one of them by maybe a dying breed here.---IMO[/QUOTE]It is becoming very rare indeed.

However, I would like to point out that there is a difference between a Newbie and a Lazy Newbie. A Newbie (or senior member) is welcome to ask questions as long as they did their research before.

I do not remember any newbie being Flamed for an intelligent question. It is lazyness that many members condemn.

I have used the search engine on this Forum many times and Always found what I was looking for, why can't others do the same? I understand it is easier to just post your question and wait for the answers; Every forum has the same problem, except here, most people are adults and one would expect they would know how to search before questioning.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
I have used the search engine on this Forum many times and Always found what I was looking for, why can't others do the same? I understand it is easier to just post your question and wait for the answers; Every forum has the same problem, except here, most people are adults and one would expect they would know how to search before questioning.[/QUOTE]
But what if they don't know. Many of them may not be used to participating in forums at all, so they don't know there's this expectation they should do a search before posting their question. It doesn't say that anywhere on the site. I think thats why the suggestion of a prominent sticky was being suggested -- to give them a heads-up before its too late. I'm just saying, the expectation that everyone coming here should know 'standard forum etiquette' isn't realistic (just because you know something doesn't mean everybody knows it), and bound to wrong often. Sometimes you'd be right... but often you'd be wrong. If you just flame one person who really doesn't deserve it, that's enough times being wrong.

[QUOTE=Wendella]... I'm just saying, the expectation that everyone coming here should know 'standard forum etiquette' isn't realistic ...[/QUOTE]Wendella,

That's correct.


Giotto

I admit to falling on the side of intemperance, sometimes, though I usually try to be patient and understanding of newbie mistakes. Hell, I still make mistakes. (There was that time I thought I was wrong about something...) MOst of this goes back to the old (old?!?!) days when we had 400 baud modems, the web was a gleam in Al Gore's eye and bandwidth was a terrible thing to waste. Our bulletin board messages were kept to as few words as possible and god help someone who tried to sell something, crept off topic, intentionally flamed someone or made a newbie mistake. When you could read faster than the words would appear on your screen, searching meant downloading everything and then skimming the posts, you guarded that bandwidth. Thus "netiquette" and FAQs were invented: don't shout at me in capital letters and you MUST read the FAQ before joining the forum. Let's face it, the most common questions a newbie will ask are the same ones that were asked the first few days of any forum.

So, newbies! Please read the FAQ and play around with the search function. And if if you make that good-faith effort and I still make a nasty comment, call me an old fart and remind me I have a 512 kbs connection these days.

Ten more days in Egypt and then it's back to the land of smileys!

Hi

I'm travelling for the first time to Bangkok and Phuket in the first week of May. I've checked out various hotels and their websites and request some help from any of you experienced members on a couple of issues.

Could you please help me sort a good hotel from the family point of view (my wife does not trust me to go alone to Thailand) which are closer to the action areas. How I am able to perform the vanishing trick on myself though still remains a mystery.

1. President Park (serviced apartment)
2. Ambassador
3. Rembrandt
4. President Solitaire
5. Royal Park Plaza
6. Grand President

All the above are in the Sukhumvit area. Can anyone please help sort out in terms of preference for the hotel. Price is not too much of an issue. Somewhere I had read in the forum about some hotel rooms to be infested with roaches and rats. I'd really appreciate your help on the above.

And to be brutally honest i would not like to leave bangkok without having a taste of its beautiful night life, though looks like for me I shall have that into daylife when the missus is shopping. Are there any day time places / bars to venture out to. Can any of you provide me areas for the same.

Thank you all very much in advance & have a great day

Come on Gents, makes it really sense to post endlessly about, the topic if a newbie question should be answered or not?
It might be much better to answer the questions if somebody have the answer and if he don't like to answer because he things the newbie should first search before he ask then he don't need to answer.
When a newbie or also a senior member from another part of this Forum enter this thread and he find only unseless discussions about, should a newbie question be answered than he will get frustrated.

Therefore I would prefer if somebody could post his recent experience in Bangkok. I just arrived ths mornng from Manila and had today a nice lunch at beergarden and met there the chinese girl which I had about 10 days ago. We went to my hotel for a short time. Since she know me she asked for 1300 Bath. Her normal rate is 2000 bath for short time. I guess you can bargain to get a better price.

I would like to get some info about action in China Town. I have heared that there are houses (no soapies) where you can have just short time and take out the girls for long time.

[QUOTE=DG69]...Therefore I would prefer if somebody could post his recent experience in Bangkok. I just arrived ths mornng from Manila and had today a nice lunch at beergarden and met there the chinese girl which I had about 10 days ago. We went to my hotel for a short time. Since she know me she asked for 1300 Bath. Her normal rate is 2000 bath for short time. I guess you can bargain to get a better price.
...[/QUOTE]DG69,

Good. OK. You start. Give us a report about you recent experience in Bangkok. Let's start with the arrival in Bangkok and your time in Biergarten.

Hmm - was that it, is that what you want to post about your recent experience in Bangkok :) ? Just let me know: Are the normal prices in Biergarten now THB 2000 for ST? Did your RTFF?

I think I am in a bad mood.


Giotto

PS: You have 146 posts, and you know how to use the search function. There are numerous posts about Biergarten in this thread!

(I am really in a bad mood today!)

(I am really in a bad mood today!)[/QUOTE]Gee Giotto, you must be in a bad mood! Is the heat there still trying to nudge 40 degrees?

Was absolutely stinking hot when I stayed at your fine establishment in 2 weeks ago.

PS. I hope you get that freebie Nokia off your friend in Germany.

OK I haven't been in Bangkok for a year. On my last night in the city before flying out last time, this happened. I've been curious ever since if this was cool or not on the part of the guy who did it, according to the rules of the game in Bangkok I mean.

Last night in BKK, fly out in the morning. I was wandering from one Nana Plaza bar to another, 9ish, thinking I'm only going to move on something if it's really special (my next stop was going to be Phnom Penh, so no sense of urgency). After hitting a few places, wasn't seeing anything amazing and I thought it might be time to go check out Soi Cowboy instead. On my way out I noticed a girl walking around talking with some friends in front of Playschool bar -- I thought that's the bar she belonged to, hard to tell because she was sort of between two. I kept walking but turned around to see which she went into. Eventually it seemed like it must be Playschool. Made a mental note. Got outside. Then it hit me. Go back in there. I did. She wasn't outside anymore. I went into the bar and sat down in the middle on the left side. After getting my beer I looked up and didn't see her anywhere. Lots of girls up there. No her. Anyway, sipped a bit, perused the talent. Nothing hitting me. Oh well, I think, finish up and go. Then there's a switch, new girls come out. Maybe? No. Ask for the check. Sure enough, soon as I do that I look up and there she is directly in front of me. She's tall and quite thin, model face. Hottest girl I saw the whole trip. Her gaze is fixed in the mirror, but also wanders around the room with that blank expression... can not catch her eye, even though I'm right below her. Anyway, finally I decide I'm going to just ask to talk to her, that seems to be happening left and right with other girls. Trying to find someone to ask. And then... she gets called down... by some other guy. Damn.

Ah well. Paid the check. Time to go. Damn. They're over there chatting now.

Later that night, maybe hour and a half later, I'm still in the vicinity, and think, well, why not just poke my head back in and see if she's somehow still there. Coming in I check out the stage. She's there. Left side, middle. So I go grab a table on the left side, not too far away. No hesitation this time. I think I set the record for fastest customer request of a girl after entering a bar. Oh and yes, I guess I'll have a beer too. So she comes down and sits with me. Chit chat for a couple of minutes, she seems ok -- a bit better than expected (I almost expect a girl that hot to be cold and aloof -- she wasn't exactly warm and cuddly but human and talkative at least). Anyway, what happened next was the part I'm wondering about ever since. Some 45-ish expat and a 35-ish Thai woman come in and try to make their way to a table together, coming in our direction. Then the guy and the woman were saying something to this girl with me, it just looked like some bustle of the place being overcrowded... but then the woman made sure to get her attention, touching her shoulder, and then what seemed like hellos and howareyous between the 3 of them. They then went back to a table (back again in the direction they came from) behind us. After that my girl quickly cut to the chase with her offer -- if I wanted to go out with her. I explored a bit to find out what the options were. ST for 2000, (1500? No, 2000) (my hotel? no, only here, upstairs). (mind calculating... letsee, plus barfine, plus room upstairs... is this worth it? Answer was yes, duh, but this new stressed feeling I now had made it feel like No... what seemed exciting before now seemed kind of shitty) And where she seemed OK a few seconds ago, now a cool veneer came over her. Business. It was obvious that for me it was let's go or let me go. Now. Feeling too much pressure, and not a great vibe, I decided against. Afterwards was when it hit me that what that guy did, or that couple -- it seemed like this couldn't be normal. I had bought her a drink, which had only just come by the time those 2 came over. They were busting in on me. That was why they came over, not to find a table. After I told the girl no on upstairs at Nana, that instant she said ok bye and did a B-line for their table and sat down next to him. I think I had a total of 3 minutes with her.

So is this normal? Is it considered cool to do that there in BKK? Not so much what the girl did, but the couple. He was obviously expat, a bit well dressed like he'd come from an office before. I know in my neck of the woods, Saigon, that kind of thing doesn't fly -- you'd get yourself into some serious trouble pulling that kind of move.

I still have pangs of regret that I didn't somehow work out going with that girl. Can just picture her and think, damn... if only. So maybe better to regret the things you do than the things you don't. Did have a few days in Phnom Penh after that, but never saw anything close to that one there. Still though, even if I had gone with her, I would have regretted that too. It wouldn't have been nearly as good as it would've had those 2 not shown up. They basically wrecked it. I probably would've paid that same price and done it, if that was the best deal I was gonna get. But the vibe had been ruined. That was the key.

Maybe I just needed to be tougher, and think "Oh yeah, well screw you I'm TAKING this girl... I don't care how much or how short a time, " and wave goodbye to the guy as we head out.

I must admit I did not RTFF to see if this particular question had been asked ;-)

Wondering if anyone knows how the action is down around Khow San Road? Thinking of trying it out this trip. Bangkok,Cambodia then Vietnam this year.

[QUOTE=Giotto]DG69,

Good. OK. You start. Give us a report about you recent experience in Bangkok. Let's start with the arrival in Bangkok and your time in Biergarten.

Hmm - was that it, is that what you want to post about your recent experience in Bangkok :) ? Just let me know: Are the normal prices in Biergarten now THB 2000 for ST? Did your RTFF?

I think I am in a bad mood.


Giotto

PS: You have 146 posts, and you know how to use the search function. There are numerous posts about Biergarten in this thread!

(I am really in a bad mood today!)[/QUOTE]

Well I am in a very good mood. ;-)
I arrived in BKK from Manila comming with Kuwait Airways. The price for a roundtrip was 11.000 Bath from BKK to M and back, including Airport-Tax in BKK. I planned to stay longer in the Philippines, but I found AC not very tempting and Manila too expensiv. The girls in AC are mostly small and have a big belly. So, not so attractive like the Thai girls which you can find in Nana, Soi Cowboy and Soi 7. There are of course also very good looking girls in AC, but very seldom and often so called cherry girls.
I had some good looking girls in AC, but the whole situation I mean what else you can do there than Barhopping, wasn't satisfying. So, I left for Manila after 4 days AC. In Manila I stayed in the Royal Bellagio Hotel in Makati. The girls in the Burgos Steet /Makati are often very pretty. Really Photomodell look alike girls can be found there. But, Barfine is about 2500 Bhat and the girl may ask the same or even more for a longtime. So, about 5000 Bath for a longtime is even a low price and you might get this only if she likes you.
Also, the traffic in Manila is awful. The whole city, from Shopping, Food, Nightlife, Transport is by far not so comfortable than Bangkok. The not so good looking girls in the bars are very presistent. The came immediatly from all corner to my desk and let me really not enjoy the stay in the clubs.
Well, more if somebody is interested can be read in the Manila and AC Thread.

Ok, now to Bangkok. This time I was really lucky with the Airport. When I arrived first (before I flow to Manila) I had only 100 or even less meter from the Gate to the immigration and this time when I came from Manila it was also not more than 200 m. I pass the immigration very fast and the luggage arrive also very fast. I went to the departure desk and went to a regular Taxi which brought me to the City for 300 Bath. All together I only need about 40 Minutes from landing to the Hotel (Dynasty Inn).
It was already after 2 pm and so after check inn I had just a beer outside at Nana Parking Space. There are street vendors who sell a beer for 80 Bath. Alot of Folk are also there. If somebody really want a girl for the rest of the night he can find it here. I was too tired and so I just enjoyed the meet market and after my beer I went for sleep.
The Beergarden prices are as far I know 1000 Bath for longtime. Usually the better looking girls asked for 1500 Bath first, but go down to 1000 Bath with no problems.
That girl I had was special. She is very pretty and will not go for 1000 Bath. I will post a photo from her when I am back in Germany.

@Wendella. It's funny I had a similar experience in the Playschool bar last time when I was in Bangkok. It was may last day of 4 weeks Thailand. It was end of November 2006. Saw in Playschool a really very pretty girl. Slim, about 1,65 m, very small waist, round hips and very sexy backside. She was sitting with another man. Later I thought I try again playschool maybe the girl is still there. Bingo she was there and so I envite her for a drink. She was very affectionate and responding. She asked 3000 for LT and I agreed. Just she couldn't go in my Hotel because she had no ID Card. I went with her first to Disco in Soi 1 and notice that she had no underwear under her short skirt. I almost fucked her in the Disco.
After we tried in me Hotel, but since she had no ID she couldn't enter. So, she offers me to sleep in her appartment. I went with her to Rachada where she had a nice appartment. There was another girl, a friend from her. She send her out after a while and we had a very great sex. First the usual kissing and touching. I stand up to take a condom and she came out the bed, took the condom away from me and gave me a real great blow job. Well, I never come by a blowjob and so I put another condom and fucked her. After a while she took my penis out and took the condom from me and asked me to fuck her without. I thought well she is a bargirl and get medical checks and I was so horny that I fucked her without. After a while I asked her if I can have her anal. She said she never did before, but once tried with her Thai Boyfriend, but it didn't work. So, I had lubricant with me and it was possible without big problems.
Next morning she told me that she is abit ashamed because she was drunken and so she did things which she normally don't do. I fucked her again also anal and left her at 11 o'clock, since I had to check out and need to go to the Airport.
She was really great, but unfortunatelly I didn't saw her this time at playschool. Well, if you like I can send you photo from her if you give me your email address.

[QUOTE=DG69]Well I am in a very good mood. ;-)
I thought well she is a bargirl and get medical checks and I was so horny that I fucked her without. After a while I asked her if I can have her anal. She said she never did before, but once tried with her Thai Boyfriend, but it didn't work. So, I had lubricant with me and it was possible without big problems.
Next morning she told me that she is abit ashamed because she was drunken and so she did things which she normally don't do. I fucked her again also anal and left her at 11 o'clock, since I had to check out and need to go to the Airport.[/QUOTE]Wow, talk about living dangerously. Fucking a bargirl without a condom and especially one that probably has a Thai boyfriend. And then doing her anal. I hope that part was covered. I know the temptation is always there, but that is living dangerously.

But it was a good report.

[QUOTE=Masterplan]Are there any actual lapdancing bars with out of this world hotties, or is it all brothels and take out bars?

Cheers[/QUOTE]Bangkok is not the rest of the world. The hotties are from Thailand and why lapdance when you can find a bar where they will give you a BJ on the spot. And unlike other places, when you spot a dancer you like, you can take her away from the bar for the whole night with no problem for less than half what 20 minutes in the VIP room might cost in the US.

As for brothels, the closest thing to a brothel in the Western sense might be Eden club. Of course that is a very fuzzy line.

Anyway, if you read the posts you would find your answers over and over and over and over. But come and enjoy. Just make sure you post something substantive afterwards so we senior members don't keep beating you up for not RTFF.

[QUOTE=Reared Up]Hi

I'm travelling for the first time to Bangkok and Phuket in the first week of May. I've checked out various hotels and their websites and request some help from any of you experienced members on a couple of issues.

Could you please help me sort a good hotel from the family point of view (my wife does not trust me to go alone to Thailand) which are closer to the action areas. How I am able to perform the vanishing trick on myself though still remains a mystery.

1. President Park (serviced apartment)
2. Ambassador
3. Rembrandt
4. President Solitaire
5. Royal Park Plaza
6. Grand President

All the above are in the Sukhumvit area. Can anyone please help sort out in terms of preference for the hotel. Price is not too much of an issue. Somewhere I had read in the forum about some hotel rooms to be infested with roaches and rats. I'd really appreciate your help on the above.

Thank you all very much in advance & have a great day[/QUOTE]Dear Reared Up,

Of those six hotels, my overwhelming personal preference is President Park. Both wings are pretty new. The people there are really nice. I usually tip the bell boys 20 baht for hailing me a taxi, carrying bags, etc. You'll be amazed how far this act of kindness goes. If you're going to be sneaking around while your wife is at the hotel, a bellboy can be your best friend. Grand President and President Solitare are the same owners, but PresPark is newer and a little better service. There's nothing wrong with those other three hotels, I don't think you'll have a bug/rat problem, but for an extra $10-$20 per night, you may as well keep your wife happy. (If she likes the hotel, she may stay put there!)

The only problem is that President Park is the furthest from "the action", but I think this can be an advantage as well. As you know, Sukhumvit Road is central to the action. President Park is around the middle of the road, but about 1 km away from the road. It is only a 20 baht ride by moto to the main road (about 3 minutes). It may be to your advantage to stay a bit away from the "action" anyway, you don't want to run into your wife on the street ;)

If price is not that much of an issue, the Davis Hotel is a little more expensive and a little nicer than PresPark, it is right across the street. Also, they may have more "spa" type stuff to keep her distracted.

In terms of daytime fun, there's always the regular places, Eden Club, Annie's, etc. I'm not as crazy about the Sukhumvit daytime fun, I'd prefer the soapies on Kao San Rd., but other guys would disagree. RTF and draw your own opinions, that's the fun of it.

For shopping, send your wife to Siam Square, make sure she hits ALL the different towers. That will keep her busy all day. (There is stuff for the kids there too.) It's faster to get there by Skytrain, but give her money for a taxi, in the middle of the day the traffic will keep her busy for another hour ;)

Feel free to shoot me a message w/any questions. have fun.

[QUOTE=Thor93] As for brothels, the closest thing to a brothel in the Western sense might be Eden club. [/QUOTE]

Actually, many, if not, most of the "soapies" and other non-traditional Thai massage parlors in the LOS are like western style brothels in the sense that you will find a "mama" or "papasan" and selection of working girls on display in a "fishbowl" who, when chosen by the customer, will fuck and suck you on the premises according to your individual desires.

Daddy

[QUOTE=Thor93]It really depends on how much she likes you and how well you negotiate. The exchange rate is of no significance to her, only you. A baht is a baht to them, regardless of how much you or I pay for it.

As a minimum though you might have to pay her barfine, if she works in a bar. Beyond that it could be anywhere from nothing to maybe five or six thousand baht depending on the girl. To be fair she should probably get at least get long term rates for each day, but once again that depends on where you find her from.

You could call an an escort agency but that would be the absolute most expensive way to go. They advertise on the web, some as high as 10 or 12 thousand baht a day for what you suggest.

Why not just go to a a place like Patong in Phuket or some other beach town and find a local girl there? That would be a whole lot cheaper. Plus if you don't like her, she is easy to change out. You bring a girl from Bkk, she may be hard to get rid of if it doesn't work out..[/QUOTE]

Thor 93,

Thanks a lot for your answer and advice.

My situation is as following, last December I hat an excellent girl from the street (Sky train) but she use to work from time to time (?) in one of the Nana bars. At that time we arranged our dates almost every day (during my 4 nights in Bangkok) from 6 pm to next morning 9 am (including nice dinners and breakfasts) for THB 2500 per day (I use to pay for long time in this area max. THB 2000).

Now I plan to go to some island where the action not to big is and not too much girls around. As I don’t want to over pay and make the wonderful Bangkok market overpriced. I am thinking in 7 days & nights in one of these island resorts with Pussy day & night and my budget could be THB 10,000 for her service during this time, this include normal sex, oral sex (always with condom) some photos and no anal but willing to try this too with her.

I hope this THB 10,000 would not make a wrong prejudice and some reactions from other members in this excellent Forum

Best regards

Sponsor,

So you're going to a place with little action (not Phuket, etc). You have more options than a newbie. A newbie will have to quickly find a girl and hope she pans out for the week and pay her what she wants.

You have a better situation. You know Thailand and you already know girls. My first suggestion is to take a girl you already know; one that will not starfish you for a week. But if you pick one, pick wisely. You know what you're doing.

As for the pricing, which was your original question, I agree first that you will have to pay the BF if she's a BG. That's a given. But I don't think you should have to pay LT rates without question. The determining factor will be two things:

1) Where are you going? How nice is the place? How much would she love to go? Will it be a place she's never going to have a chance to go herself?

2) How much does she like you? vs How much does she need the money?

Combining these two should set your rate for her (apart from the BF). I definitely know guys who have taken girls to places and not paid a thing for the week. She was so happy to be going and to be taken to a place like this that she F#$%^& his brains out for a week and smiled the whole time. And I know guys who've taken girls and paid 1.5X the daily LT rate. And they starfished the whole time and constantly wanted to be bought things.

So both of those factors will determine your negotiation. And they do matter.

[QUOTE=Kash Flow]Wondering if anyone knows how the action is down around Khow San Road? Thinking of trying it out this trip. Bangkok,Cambodia then Vietnam this year.[/QUOTE]

Are you a backpacker looking for a place to crash for 100 THB a night? If so, then Khow San Road is the place for you.

[QUOTE=DG69]Well I am in a very good mood. ...
[/QUOTE]DG69,

Thanks for the report :) .


Giotto

Nice little story.

It is entirely up to you to buy the pussy in the bar.... or not.

let's see what we have here, you were casually chatting to a Bargirl you liked, taking it slow and still testing the waters, a couple comes in and sends buying signals to the girl you are with, the girl offers you first choice and you refuse, naturally she leaves and goes towards the other buyer.

let's section this story a little more:

- what the couple did to you is totally unethical, I would never do this even in a Bangkok bar. The man (or the girl) were impolite and can be qualified as assholes by their behavior. One thing is, they maybe were in the bar before and also thinking about Barfining this girl, when they came back to do so, they found she was busy with you. I am pretty sure that the girl told her they were ready to Barfine her and give her 2,000 ST.

- The dancer was nice to you in the sense that she allowed you to make a counteroffer, she laid down her price and venue for you to agree or disagree.
Maybe the couple used her before, maybe they offered her more money, you will never know.

- Once she was convinced you were not going to buy, she left, abruptly I agree, but for these girls the drinking process is equal to "courting", you test the merchandise. If you're not going to Barfine her (unless you're a regular) what could you 2 be possibly talking about?
She in the Bar for money, not love.

You did nothing wrong, I would have done the same thing. Except maybe tell the guy he was an asshole for doing what he did (which was totally unappropriate).
2000ST is just too much, even for NEP.

Better luck next time ;)

[QUOTE=Thor93]Wow, talk about living dangerously. Fucking a bargirl without a condom and especially one that probably has a Thai boyfriend. And then doing her anal. I hope that part was covered. I know the temptation is always there, but that is living dangerously.

But it was a good report.[/QUOTE]

I am usually not a guy who fuck pros or one nighter without condoms. Buuut, I think I have a low risk to get H-IV, since I am prune (is this the word for without foreskin?). Also, the Bargirls get one time a months a medical check and that with her Thai Boyfriend is long ago.
Ok, it's not very clever not to use condoms, but hey what would you do if you would be in the bed with one of the hottest chick you ever had and she would take the condom from your dig, because it's nicer without?
In this moment the brain is on low battery and the dig took over.:-(

DG69,

The "prune" word you're looking for is called "circumcised".

Don't justify your bareback bro. You know better, that's already clear. Kudos to you for knowing better, but shame on your for giving in. Don't be too hard on yourself, at least you know better. But that's no reason to try to justify and convince yourself it's OK. You know it's not. But like I said, don't be too hard on yourself, just be stronger next time. It's not worth it, but that's IMNSHO. Don't think I'm coming down too hard on you, I'm not. You know what's up. I give you credit for being open about it and discussing it, knowing that you wish you hadn't done it. That's what it's all about, living and learning.

But the living part is the goal.

I wouldn't be saying this if I thought you would be offended. I'm supporting your inner voice that tells you not to fall victim to the temptation again.

: )

I know English is only my third language but WTF? I am still trying to understand your previous post (the reply to DG69).

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
- what the couple did to you is totally unethical, I would never do this even in a Bangkok bar. The man (or the girl) were impolite and can be qualified as assholes by their behavior. One thing is, they maybe were in the bar before and also thinking about Barfining this girl, when they came back to do so, they found she was busy with you. I am pretty sure that the girl told her they were ready to Barfine her and give her 2,000 ST.[/QUOTE]
The impression I had for some reason was that he/they were regulars who knew her, or else customers from a previous night. For sure, she got the message that they were ready to take her out, whether it was spoken or didn't need to be spoken. The guy definitely had the look of an expat with a comfortable salary. Executive type. The woman was used as his proxy to go scoop up the girl in a way he could get away with -- if HE had walked up to the table and got her attention, yeah that would be the kind of thing to start a barfight, anywhere, I think. The woman looked like a frumpy secretary type, obviously not his love interest. She had the middle aged woman look, slightly heavy. She looked like somebody's aunt. This woman's presence there seemed a bit bizarre, she didn't fit in there. Maybe that's his M.O., always comes with his trusty Aunt Pim to dive in and do his dirty work and steal girls from other guys' tables.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]-taking it slow and still testing the waters... The dancer was nice to you in the sense that she allowed you to make a counteroffer, she laid down her price and venue for you to agree or disagree. [/QUOTE]I wasn't taking it slow, I was taking it all very fast. The whole visit by the girl was really no more than 3-4 minutes total. One detail just came back to me: she left the full drink on my table there, had one mouthful before she left. But as for being nice, I would hope she was obligated to at least not leave immediately without any excuse -- I mean if she hadn't made any offer. That said, I don't blame [b]her[/b]. The other guy was almost certainly gonna pay her that price, so for her it was about making her living, you're right, of course. Money on the table, who's got it. What bugged me was having this deceptive little trick being pulled on me, and basically having some guy efffectively come up to my table and take the girl I'd just started negotiations with away, right when I'd just started talking to her.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy] Once she was convinced you were not going to buy, she left, abruptly I agree, but for these girls the drinking process is equal to "courting", you test the merchandise. If you're not going to Barfine her (unless you're a regular) what could you 2 be possibly talking about?
She in the Bar for money, not love.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, sure, I know. Neither of us were under the impression that she was there for chitchat. No ill will toward the girl whatsoever.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You did nothing wrong, I would have done the same thing. Except maybe tell the guy he was an asshole for doing what he did (which was totally unappropriate). 2000ST is just too much, even for NEP.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it was lousy luck. Good to know that a Thailand regular considers this rude too, cuz next time I'd be better prepared. I was hesitant to do anything because I thought maybe that's the way it is in BKK. You're right 2000 is a lot for ST, but you should've seen this girl. I never pay that much, but this time it was a no-brainer, an exception needed to get made. She was just delicious.

Thanks much for the feedback. It's good to hear someone else's view of it.

[QUOTE=DG69]I am usually not a guy who fuck pros or one nighter without condoms. Buuut, I think I have a low risk to get H-IV, since I am prune (is this the word for without foreskin?). [/QUOTE]

Wow, I never heard this before. (I'm prune too.) Is there any truth in that? Don't worry, I'm not going out there with no condom. Just curious to know if circumcision has any effect on the likelihood of contracting AIDS.

fellow mongerers

stayed a few days in bangkok before going to pattaya. it was worth checking out, but pattaya is so much better, and cheaper. pattaya report in that section of the forum.

some details that might be helpful to other mongerers planning a trip:

pricing, lt with a go go girl, i usually paid 2,500 baht for the ones that were very hot, and 2,000 baht for the ones that were less hot but were fun to sit and have a drink with.

this is probably pretty well known, but soi cowboy is smaller than na na plaza, but so much nicer. more relexed, less dirty, less hectic. (and i will go out and be controversial here, the girls are also prettier.)

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] - checked it out, same as pattaya, found it worthwhile.

eden - walked in, but was a bit put of by the large number of punters hanging out and drinking in the bar area so i walked out since it sort of felt like i would have to wait in line and my selection would be limited since there were so many others there. don't mind having a beer or two with some fellow mongerers, but when my mind is set on 90 minutes of enthusiastic bombom and i've taken a double of my usual dose of viagra, then it's not exactly what i want to do, so i walked out and went for a massage instead. nothing bad said about eden because of this, i could probably have gone back a bit earlier in the day.

massage places - don't remember exacts of pricing, but think about 800 baht for two hours with girls in the ~6, 7 category, and then a 1,000 baht tip at the end.

annie's - on soi 4, checked it out, think 1,500 baht for 90 minutes or two hours and then a tip for the girl. went there once, got some pretty enthusiastic performance from a girl called koi or goi. think her number was 62 in the fish bowl.

fun and sun

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Honestly I think so long I still came here and ask, cause recently alot of issue about nobody contribute but keep asking for place to hang around. To my answer honestly I only cheong when my wife not around so that is the time when I go on holiday with my cheongster friend only. So I think I have contribute one FR which is I go to hatyai, other than that is I went to KK but it turn out to be last min and I ask bariaking to help me out and ir each those place like 1 something so happen no more. So no FR.

This time I'm going to BKK on Tuesday and with one of my other friend and honestly I been reading the forum for the last 20 pages and didn't find what I'm looking. I remember 3 month ago I read I still manage to find a little information about LT, but from what I know LT in BKK is something like overnight. My question come to is there any LT there is roughly about a day something like in hatyai, I wish to know where is it about and roughly what the damage.

I promise that it would be a long FR cause I'm going there for a whole week. If happen to find any cybercafe I will try to update as soon as possible

A H

as a newbie to this forum, but certainly not to mongering, or bkk, i thought i would relay a couple of fun adventures of mine in the land of sex (los), just before christmas 2006. a bit about myself, i am caucasian, and live in hong kong, have been there for years.

caught the morning tg flight out, landed on time, and since i was only there for 4 or 5 days, only had hand carry. from the time the plane touched down to the time i was in a taxi, (from the departure level, ) “please use meeeetaaaaahhhh,” it was less that 15 minutes. i had got a super deal on priceline, 80$ inc tax at the jw. and i was checked in by 10.45 am. even though i was in bkk for a week end of fun, sex, and debauchery, i was in no hurry, and wanted a nice relaxing massage. i went on up suk, in search of a strong thai massage. found a great place about 200m up soi 8, on the same side of the street as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s. (hmmm, make mental note for after the massage).

a wonderful, relaxing 2 hours later, i walked out, refreshed, and stop into the salon on the corner of suk and soi 8, for a haircut, manicure, pedicure, and shave. it felt so wonderful to have all these pretty little things taken care of me!!!

it is now 3.00pm, a quick hop across the street, and into soi 7/1. yes, you all know where i am headed. picked a really fun looking girl on the left, age about 25, tight ass, with perky little tits, just the way i like them. her face, well, this is eden after all. her friend was a notch below her. off we go to the room, and the action starts. i thought the girl on girl action looked rehearsed, but i still enjoyed it nonetheless. the one who takes it up the ass asked me, after he friend had finished plunging the strap on deep into her [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] chute, “ you want my friend fuck your ass also”? maybe next time i said. (not). 2 pops, a tip, and i walked out, with a smile from ear to ear.

on my way back to jw, i decided to take a look in the beergarden. i have only been in there once, and was not too impressed, but it was late evening. this time, it was late afternoon, and the place was jumping. i eventually found a stool at the bar, and ordered a chang. a quick look around confirmed i was right the first time. had the girls in there been 10 years younger, there would have been some fine looking ladies. but most of them had this tired, worn, “ridden hard, and put away wet” look to them. i am only 33 yo, and was definitely the youngest guy in there. during the time i drank my beer, 3 fairly decent looking girls came up and tried to engage me. fresh from a great session at eden, i wasn’t ready, but i got 2 phone numbers for back up , just in case. i headed back to jw, where i went for a nice swim, (the pool is ridiculously small), and had a nap.

i woke up about 9.00 pm, showered, and went out for a bit to eat. i like to eat on the street, i find the food there fabulous, and headed towards nana, where i took a seat on one of the red plastic stools. (i wish i were the manufacturer of those red plastic stools, there must be 250 million of them in bkk alone!!! )

as i am eating, 2 very nice looking girls sit down at the table next to me. nicely dressed, a bit slutty looking, but not too much, just enough for one to know they are on the game, and not working in an office 2 sois down. we chat, i buy them each a beer, and we strike a deal for lt. 2,000 bt each, including some girl on girl action. don’t you just hate it when one watches while you bang away at her friend…..
we head back to the jw, but i am in the mood for a drink, so we all sit in the bar, while i enjoy a pre fuck brandy. they surprise me by ordering a glass of wine, i was expecting heineken. ok, up we go. i jump in the shower with girl 1, we play around, she soaps me up, i soap her up, paying extreme attention the areas i am going to be spending time on. she gets out, and the other gets in. those showers just are not big enough for 3 to fit comfortably.

as we walk out, i notice the girls are not mummified in the usual way, tightly wrapped in the obligatory towel. good sign, on the other hand, we have been getting to know each other in the shower. suddenly girl 2 just basically takes over, telling me to lie down, while they both proceed to give me a great bbbj. both of them, of either side of mr ”getting happier by the minute”, sucking, licking, fondling, teasing. heaven. the view is great too, as i look down and both of them are taking turns bobbing up and down. a particular tender moment takes place when they both have a portion of the head of my dick in their mouth. they are basically kissing each other, while sucking my dick at the same time.

ok, enough of me being lazy, i motion to one of them to slide on up, so i can have a nice long drink. man she tastes good. sweet, sticky, she nearly tastes like a pear nectar. meanwhile, the other one caps me, and hops on. the girls are now facing each other, and start kissing each other again. wonderful. we switch positions a couple of times, my favorite being i am doggying one, while she eats her friend. i soon blow my load, we all go clean up, and get back into bed, where we cuddle and joke, until we fall asleep. i wake up around 9.30 am, can’t figure out if i want to roll to the left, or to the right. i grab a condom and some lube on the night stand, and roll left. i gently open her legs, and slide in from behind. other than a few moans, i don’t think she even woke up.

around 11.00 we all get up, shower, and i send them on their way with the promised amount. what a great first day. i head down for some breakfast, and suddenly remember the fairly nice looking girl from beergarden yesterday. i text her, she calls me right back, has no clue who i am, but agrees to come to my room at 2.00 pm.

hope this doesn’t bore you too much. if yes, i will stop. if no, let me know, i will let you know how miss beergarden turned out. hehehe.

[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=Wendella]
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I wasn't taking it slow, I was taking it all very fast. The whole visit by the girl was really no more than 3-4 minutes total. One detail just came back to me: she left the full drink on my table there, had one mouthful before she left. But as for being nice, I would hope she was obligated to at least not leave immediately without any excuse -- I mean if she hadn't made any offer. That said, I don't blame [b]her[/b]. The other guy was almost certainly gonna pay her that price, so for her it was about making her living, you're right, of course. Money on the table, who's got it. What bugged me was having this deceptive little trick being pulled on me, and basically having some guy efffectively come up to my table and take the girl I'd just started negotiations with away, right when I'd just started talking to her.

[/QUOTE]

This is the category of ' sh.. happens' and in my opinion an exceptional situation.

I read it as:
The couple is a regular customer of the girl and was collecting her for a larger session (maybe group sex or so) where she can earn huge money compared to the ST rates regularly paid. If she wouldn't have followed the couple she might have lost them (and the huge money involved) forever as a customer. She probably made the offer in money and attitude to you only for you to be declined by you to - so to say to be polite and eventually to follow some 'house rules'. I guess with whatever behavior you wouldn’t have been able to get her this night.

Forget about this. Ok you didn’t get the girl you wanted but statistically this may not happen again. Such a situation is definitely very exceptional.

Regards

Brain666

Nic,

Sometimes I forget that not everyone is a native English speaker. As such, I write with an extended vocabulary which does make it difficult for non-English speakers to understand. I should try to write more simply. I should also avoid literary tricks which would confuse someone who doesn't speak English on a daily basis.

I should also not use colloquialisms (or slang) so often. I know the exact translations mean nothing to someone outside an English background.

I apologize. But it is difficult for someone who lives in a language to remember that those outside it may have difficulty. One reason for this is that so many of you here who do not use English as a first language are [b]so good[/b] at using it that we often forget, and treat you as native-speakers. That is to your credit. But I write extensively, and should learn to do so more simply.

If you wish, PM me with what you don't understand and I will explain.

But basically I was telling DG not to worry, he's OK and not a fool. But that he knows better and should not try to tell himself it was no big deal and that he wasn't really at risk. He knows he was at risk and should just not do it again. He knows this, but I didn't want to see him ignore the lesson.

[QUOTE=Luvtorim]As a newbie to this forum, but certainly not to mongering, or BKK, I thought I would relay a couple of fun adventures of mine in the Land Of Sex (LOS), just before Christmas 2006. A bit about myself, I am Caucasian, and live in Hong Kong, have been there for years.
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[/QUOTE]Luvtorim,

Welcome to the forum. Thanks for you report. Well written and informative.


Giotto

Luvtorim,

Great report, keep it coming. How was Ms. Beergarten? Was she a MILF?

BTW, I loved the "rode hard and put away wet" reference, it's been a long time since I heard that one. :)

Great report, that's the way should go. I wander you have the number of the girls

[QUOTE=Wendella]Wow, I never heard this before. (I'm prune too.) Is there any truth in that? Don't worry, I'm not going out there with no condom. Just curious to know if circumcision has any effect on the likelihood of contracting AIDS.[/QUOTE]


Yes it's true without foreskin the danger to get HI-V is lower, since the inside skin of the foreskin (is that the word?) is the most sensitive part of the penis. Also when you are circumcision your penis is not more so sensitive since the top of your dick is not more protected by the foreskin, will say it's like horny skin (callus). It's also proved by tests.

[QUOTE=DG69]Yes it's true without foreskin the danger to get HI-V is lower, since the inside skin of the foreskin (is that the word?) is the most sensitive part of the penis. Also when you are circumcision your penis is not more so sensitive since the top of your dick is not more protected by the foreskin, will say it's like horny skin (callus). It's also proved by tests.[/QUOTE]

This discussion should really be in the Safe Sex in Thailand section, but since it started here, might as well try to finish it here. I went searching on Google about this issue, because I had read the same articles. I found a rather scholarly article [url]http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/HIV/[/url]. Pasted below is the general conclusion of one that seems to be based in a lot of facts.

The google page lists lots of news articles both pro and con. Quite easy to confuse yourself here and if you cherry pick you can find articles to support either side.

Like so many other things in life, there are so many factors involved here, it is difficult to be sure what the real conclusion should be. Inescapable is that covered is safer, but I think we all know the temptation and how weak the mind is at those crucial moments.

"The Cochrane Review found that the existing studies fail to control for most of these confounding factors so the evidence produced is unreliable. After more than forty studies over a span of time greater than a decade, the Fink hypothesis that circumcision somehow reduces HIV infection remains unproven. Ntozi recognizes that this idea that circumcision can reduce HIV infection is only a hypothesis, but would like to see a controlled study carried out to see if circumcision would reduce the tragic epidemic that continues to rage in Africa.34

From time to time the popular press reports that one doctor or another recommends circumcision to reduce HIV infection. While it may be their personal opinion that circumcision prevents HIV transmission, since this has not yet been conclusively demonstrated, these opinions cannot be considered informed medical opinions. Frequently, the news item is based on a single study rather than the complete body of the medical literature. It would be foolish to base public health policy on such reports."

The risk is lower, but not low enough to abandon the glove. Leave it on and enjoy. It's not worth the risk.

I just came back from spending two three weeks in LOS. I went to Korat to see my GF and her family. One thing un-unsual about this trip is the return to SFO. I was transitting via SFO to head back home to Seattle. Normally, I would just breeze through US cusotm as I normally declared "nothing" and is clean-I have never been caught carry the usual "DVD, fruit and/or somethig else". This time, the agent diverted me to the check line. He asked me the usual questions of "have DVD? , have fake stuffs? " and finally "what do you have on your computer? ". He went on to check through each and everyone of the pictures I have in my photo directory. Even asked if I have pictures that I stored in some other hidden directory somewhere. I have over 8, 000 pictures of mostly my family and friends (it took him almost five minutes of quick scanning through my photo organizer to finish the check. He also asked me if I have pictures of naked girls in my computer. I told him that I do and they are in this folder. He went through them and asked me if they are young girl under 16. I told him that all of the girls in the pictures are over 25 yo. He told me that techincally, I am violating US law for bringing these pictures over the borders. However, he will let me through this time. He told me that I should delete any naked pictures that I obtained oversea. In all, I spent 30 minutes at the detail inspection station and nothing else was found.

I wonder if this is a new tactic by the US custom? . Have any brother out there expience something similar to my exprience?

Reports, mostly studying Africans, attribute the foreskin thing to the amount of Langerhans cells in the foreskin. Anyone who knows anything about immunology will tell you that these are very important as first recipients of many antigens, including viruses like HIV. And yes, especially when inflamed the foreskin can have more Langerhans cells.

However, most studies done involve Africa, with risky, and uncontrollable sex practices, and already have the answer before the question.

Take the stats with a pinch of salt. They are not really that representative. How many caucasians were studied?
aren't most American men circumcised, so do they have a 40-60 % less infection rate per head of population than other western men who are not?

The WHO is shitting itself with HIV/AIDS in Afriva, and any straw they can clutch helps. Maybe the simple fact that the people in the study took on board some health tips made a difference, who knows?

For those of you who believe HIV/AIDS is for real, the botom line is cover up, don't rely on stats and presumptions.

[QUOTE=Petemcc]Reports, mostly studying Africans, attribute the foreskin thing to the amount of Langerhans cells in the foreskin. Anyone who knows anything about immunology will tell you that these are very important as first recipients of many antigens, including viruses like HIV. And yes, especially when inflamed the foreskin can have more Langerhans cells.

However, most studies done involve Africa, with risky, and uncontrollable sex practices, and already have the answer before the question.

Take the stats with a pinch of salt. They are not really that representative. How many caucasians were studied?
aren't most American men circumcised, so do they have a 40-60 % less infection rate per head of population than other western men who are not?

The WHO is shitting itself with HIV/AIDS in Afriva, and any straw they can clutch helps. Maybe the simple fact that the people in the study took on board some health tips made a difference, who knows?

For those of you who believe HIV/AIDS is for real, the botom line is cover up, don't rely on stats and presumptions.[/QUOTE]

Right at Suk and Soi 4 there is a ton of African tourists there. Many are with their families, many students and many not sex tourists. Many of the guys are from Nigeria and there for the same fun as your average white boy is there for. Many of the African countries have a 1/3rd infection rate. What is to stop a mischievous sexpat from pulling off the bag while doing the "doggy", especially if he has nothing to lose? Going unbagged there is as dangerous being a Marine in a major Iraqi city, unarmed and without body armour, only the death is slower and more agonizing for the former.

[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]Right at Suk and Soi 4 there is a ton of African tourists there. Many are with their families, many students and many not sex tourists. Many of the guys are from Nigeria and there for the same fun as your average white boy is there for. [/QUOTE]

They are not tourists or students. They have overstayed their visas. If you had a choice of living in Africa or Thailand which would you chose?

[QUOTE=Bob1000]
I wonder if this is a new tactic by the US custom? . Have any brother out there expience something similar to my exprience?[/QUOTE]

Last three trips to LOS I've been pulled over by U.S. Customs on my return to the U.S. In January. I was searched for nearly an hour. They looked at everything, including my laptop. Nothing suspicious on it, but they sure looked at everything. I upload all photos to an Internet site before leaving LOS, then delete and use a file scrubber on the memory to remove all traces, even of innocent photos.

If you don't want to go to those lengths - and its advisable if you have X-rated stuff - learn to use an encrypted file. Apparently if you fit a certain profile - more than a certain number of trips to LOS in a certain period - they pull you over. A colleague had his laptop seized, didn't get it back for six weeks. Another guy I know who travels to cambodia on business won't even take a laptop or camera, it's 100% he'll be hassled by Customs.

This doesn't happen when I visit Europe, Japan, China, Hong Kong or Taiwan. Apparently you go on the shitlist if you visit LOS, PI or Cambodia.

Evil

[QUOTE=Bob1000]I
I wonder if this is a new tactic by the US custom? . Have any brother out there expience something similar to my exprience?[/QUOTE]

What did you tell them the purpose of the trip was? I have never been hassled by customs. I usually am on business though and when asked always tell them the name of the corporation I work for. Since it is a large, very recognizable name, they usually just wave me through.

I have a feeling that if you tell them holiday, it sets off the alarms with them.

This Customs guy is clearly a stupid asshole. He's way out of line by saying you technically violated the laws with nude pictures. These guys are mostly uneducated hourly workers for US Customs who are a shame to their country.

I suggest you take down names and his badge numbers of any government workers harassing citizens and write letters to complaint to their department, then follow up with phone calls to confirm actions by their management. If they hassle enough people without just causes, they may be introduced to the Department of Unemployment, then The Department of Homelessness... Active citizenship is the only way one can improve upon the government.

The last time an US Border agent messed with me, I wrote down his name, badge number and time on a piece of scrap paper. His attitude turned around 180 deg immediately.

[QUOTE=Bob1000]I just came back from spending two three weeks in LOS. I went to Korat to see my GF and her family. One thing un-unsual about this trip is the return to SFO. I was transitting via SFO to head back home to Seattle.
organizer to finish the check. He also asked me if I have pictures of naked girls in my computer. I told him that I do and they are in this folder. He went through them and asked me if they are young girl under 16. I told him that all of the girls in the pictures are over 25 yo. He told me that techincally, I am violating US law for bringing these pictures over the borders. However, he will let me through this time.
I wonder if this is a new tactic by the US custom? . Have any brother out there expience something similar to my exprience?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob1000]I just came back from spending two three weeks in LOS. I went to Korat to see my GF and her family. One thing un-unsual about this trip is the return to SFO. I was transitting via SFO to head back home to Seattle. Normally, I would just breeze through US cusotm as I normally declared "nothing" and is clean-I have never been caught carry the usual "DVD, fruit and/or somethig else". This time, the agent diverted me to the check line. He asked me the usual questions of "have DVD? , have fake stuffs? " and finally "what do you have on your computer? ". He went on to check through each and everyone of the pictures I have in my photo directory. Even asked if I have pictures that I stored in some other hidden directory somewhere. I have over 8, 000 pictures of mostly my family and friends (it took him almost five minutes of quick scanning through my photo organizer to finish the check. He also asked me if I have pictures of naked girls in my computer. I told him that I do and they are in this folder. He went through them and asked me if they are young girl under 16. I told him that all of the girls in the pictures are over 25 yo. He told me that techincally, I am violating US law for bringing these pictures over the borders. However, he will let me through this time. He told me that I should delete any naked pictures that I obtained oversea. In all, I spent 30 minutes at the detail inspection station and nothing else was found.

I wonder if this is a new tactic by the US custom? . Have any brother out there expience something similar to my exprience? [/QUOTE]They really, really hassle people now. I was detained for 30 minutes or so for no reason. They checked my whole suitcase (I didn't have a computer). Hassled me. Accused me of lewd activities, etc. And tore apart my suitcase. I was so pissed!

I wish there was something we could do about being detained and hassled to the max.

Any ideas? Oh, I was doing nothing illegal besides seeing friends and some women in Thailand and visiting Vietnam.

1Ball and others posted since last year re customs, particularly searching laptops, cameras, etc. and SFO was one gateway listed.

I've been in/out 3 or 4 times a year for close to 30 yrs and never hassled once...but I think because they identify me as business traveler and not monger ;)

I just searched and didn't find reference to this, so I'll ask:

Is the issue arrival in US directly from LOS? Or is it the same hassle arriving from HK, having been in LOS the week before? Do they cross reference everywhere you've been, or just where you're arriving from that day?

I usually travel through HK and am wondering if that fits their hassle profile. They won't find anything, but I would still hate to be hassled.

[QUOTE=Thor93]What did you tell them the purpose of the trip was? I have never been hassled by customs. I usually am on business though and when asked always tell them the name of the corporation I work for. Since it is a large, very recognizable name, they usually just wave me through.

I have a feeling that if you tell them holiday, it sets off the alarms with them.[/QUOTE]Thor,

You might be right about telling them I am on a holiday. I normally went through US custom as business traveller. I normally tag on a few extra vacation days at the tail end of my business trip to visit my LOS. This time, it is strictly a vacation. He also asked me if I have been to Cambodia-my answer was no.

Not everyone that works for custom is uneducated but for myself I do believe ingeneral that those that work for Local, State, Federal government have no idea what customer service really means and accountibility is non-existence. I tell my nephew with degrees coming out of major colleges to work for the government because they have job security!

I have a very good friend that has a PHD, that works for custom in SFO, but that doesn't mean he has a PHD, in common sense. He tells me always that it is easy money like stealing and it's just a job and he follows the rules outlined. Not all US Customs check points are the same but in SFO, the favor right now are those traveling to LOS, LOS, CAMBODIA, VIETNAM, the Jon Benet things has gotten these destination a black eye! so like many that have spoken, if you travel for business or you have family you most likely will not have a problem. If you are on a holiday you better follow some of the others advice and start deleteing items off your laptop on camera!

I have a family in LOS, and even with a past record I have never been searched! but I never carry a laptop and I don't have luggage to check so that counts me out!

Good Luck in SFO, LBM

[QUOTE=Wendella]OK I haven't been in Bangkok for a year. On my last night in the city before flying out last time, this happened. I've been curious ever since if this was cool or not on the part of the guy who did it, according to the rules of the game in Bangkok I mean.

Last night in BKK, fly out in the morning. I was wandering from one Nana Plaza bar to another, 9ish, thinking I'm only going to move on something if it's really special (my next stop was going to be Phnom Penh, so no sense of urgency). After hitting a few places, wasn't seeing anything amazing and I thought it might be time to go check out Soi Cowboy instead. On my way out I noticed a girl walking around talking with some friends in front of Playschool bar -- I thought that's the bar she belonged to, hard to tell because she was sort of between two. I kept walking but turned around to see which she went into. Eventually it seemed like it must be Playschool. Made a mental note. Got outside. Then it hit me. Go back in there. I did. She wasn't outside anymore. I went into the bar and sat down in the middle on the left side. After getting my beer I looked up and didn't see her anywhere. Lots of girls up there. No her. Anyway, sipped a bit, perused the talent. Nothing hitting me. Oh well, I think, finish up and go. Then there's a switch, new girls come out. Maybe? No. Ask for the check. Sure enough, soon as I do that I look up and there she is directly in front of me. She's tall and quite thin, model face. Hottest girl I saw the whole trip. Her gaze is fixed in the mirror, but also wanders around the room with that blank expression... can not catch her eye, even though I'm right below her. Anyway, finally I decide I'm going to just ask to talk to her, that seems to be happening left and right with other girls. Trying to find someone to ask. And then... she gets called down... by some other guy. Damn.

Ah well. Paid the check. Time to go. Damn. They're over there chatting now.

Later that night, maybe hour and a half later, I'm still in the vicinity, and think, well, why not just poke my head back in and see if she's somehow still there. Coming in I check out the stage. She's there. Left side, middle. So I go grab a table on the left side, not too far away. No hesitation this time. I think I set the record for fastest customer request of a girl after entering a bar. Oh and yes, I guess I'll have a beer too. So she comes down and sits with me. Chit chat for a couple of minutes, she seems ok -- a bit better than expected (I almost expect a girl that hot to be cold and aloof -- she wasn't exactly warm and cuddly but human and talkative at least). Anyway, what happened next was the part I'm wondering about ever since. Some 45-ish expat and a 35-ish Thai woman come in and try to make their way to a table together, coming in our direction. Then the guy and the woman were saying something to this girl with me, it just looked like some bustle of the place being overcrowded... but then the woman made sure to get her attention, touching her shoulder, and then what seemed like hellos and howareyous between the 3 of them. They then went back to a table (back again in the direction they came from) behind us. After that my girl quickly cut to the chase with her offer -- if I wanted to go out with her. I explored a bit to find out what the options were. ST for 2000, (1500? No, 2000) (my hotel? no, only here, upstairs). (mind calculating... letsee, plus barfine, plus room upstairs... is this worth it? Answer was yes, duh, but this new stressed feeling I now had made it feel like No... what seemed exciting before now seemed kind of shitty) And where she seemed OK a few seconds ago, now a cool veneer came over her. Business. It was obvious that for me it was let's go or let me go. Now. Feeling too much pressure, and not a great vibe, I decided against. Afterwards was when it hit me that what that guy did, or that couple -- it seemed like this couldn't be normal. I had bought her a drink, which had only just come by the time those 2 came over. They were busting in on me. That was why they came over, not to find a table. After I told the girl no on upstairs at Nana, that instant she said ok bye and did a B-line for their table and sat down next to him. I think I had a total of 3 minutes with her.

So is this normal? Is it considered cool to do that there in BKK? Not so much what the girl did, but the couple. He was obviously expat, a bit well dressed like he'd come from an office before. I know in my neck of the woods, Saigon, that kind of thing doesn't fly -- you'd get yourself into some serious trouble pulling that kind of move.

I still have pangs of regret that I didn't somehow work out going with that girl. Can just picture her and think, damn... if only. So maybe better to regret the things you do than the things you don't. Did have a few days in Phnom Penh after that, but never saw anything close to that one there. Still though, even if I had gone with her, I would have regretted that too. It wouldn't have been nearly as good as it would've had those 2 not shown up. They basically wrecked it. I probably would've paid that same price and done it, if that was the best deal I was gonna get. But the vibe had been ruined. That was the key.

Maybe I just needed to be tougher, and think "Oh yeah, well screw you I'm TAKING this girl... I don't care how much or how short a time, " and wave goodbye to the guy as we head out.

I must admit I did not RTFF to see if this particular question had been asked ;-)[/QUOTE]
Its very common to loose girls in bars to other customers that they know already.
A girl doesn't know if she really likes the new customer yet or whether he is just wasting her time. Suddenly the "good" customers arrive. At least the girl was polite enough to give you a chance but the other couple definitely wanted her for a good price.
Sometimes these girls are desperate to get the rent money, so taking less is just not an option.

I can't count the number of times I have lost a girl because someone else was quicker. The only sure way to get get the girl is to pay the bar fine.
This is very tough if you are still evaluating the mutual chemistry.
Getting the best girl in a bar is extremely difficult.
Even if you get there early, the girl may well be waiting for somone else to arrive.
2000 Baht may be above the going rate but is still not a fortune for one of the superior girls.

I would have paid the bar fine immediately to prevent the couple from stealing the girl away. Then I would have decided if I really wanted her or not, being prepared to waste the bar fine. If I changed my mind or was not prepared to pay the princely sum of 2000 Baht, she could then move on to the couple or other customers.

As to the behaviour of the couple. There is nothing wrong with saying hello to the girl they know well and indicating that they want her if you don't. She then gave you the chance to take her which you declined. Why should the girl waste her time with you if you are not going to buy.
When there are multiple buyers, you can't expect to get the lowest possible price.

So no one really need be criticised. The girl may be mercenary but still gave you the chance. You declined which is certainly your perrogative to change your mind.

I have been treated far worse than this where the girl got ripped off me, and where I never got the opportunity to bar fine her at all.
"Its the quick or the dead!".

[QUOTE=Duniawala]The risk is lower, but not low enough to abandon the glove. Leave it on and enjoy. It's not worth the risk.[/QUOTE]

Agreed!

@Bob1000,
awful practiss, seems that every country has with some topics problems. In the US it seems that faked DVD (Hollywood) and nudity is a problem. In Germany for example it's tax free cigaretts and things bought in tax free countries like Dubai. I had for example problems with my Laptop which I bought in Dubai when I worked some months in that region.
But, also this is off topic.

I am planning a trip later this year to asia. I will be travelling to Bangkok plus one more asian city which I have narrowed down to four (Ho Chi Minh, Phonm Penh, Kaula Lumper and Manila).

Can you guys suggest which city I should choose among the four which has best looking girls, reasonable prices.

Thnak you in advance for your help.

[QUOTE=MikeInSeattle]I am planning a trip later this year to asia. I will be travelling to Bangkok plus one more asian city which I have narrowed down to four (Ho Chi Minh, Phonm Penh, Kaula Lumper and Manila).

Can you guys suggest which city I should choose among the four which has best looking girls, reasonable prices.

Thnak you in advance for your help.[/QUOTE]

Manila, Phnom Penh, HCMC then KL. In that order.

[QUOTE=MikeInSeattle]I am planning a trip later this year to asia. I will be travelling to Bangkok plus one more asian city which I have narrowed down to four (Ho Chi Minh, Phonm Penh, Kaula Lumper and Manila).

Can you guys suggest which city I should choose among the four which has best looking girls, reasonable prices.

Thnak you in advance for your help.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Retired Army]Manila, Phnom Penh, HCMC then KL. In that order.[/QUOTE]

I concur with Retired Army, although I'll kick in the following just to make the decision a little more interesting:

Manila/Jakarta (tie), Phnom Penh, HCMC then KL. In that order.

I have been to LOS many times, usually when I arrive back in NZ I have little if any problems with the customs officers, that was until my last trip at the beginning of 2007.

On the way through customs I was ushered aside, and a search of my belongings took place, (nothing untoward found), then the questions started, enquiring as to why I visited LOS 2 or 3 times a year, the customs officers attitude was very rude, he was around 24 years old, about half my age and I wasnt happy with his line of questioning, so I let him have it.

I told him that the real reason I travel to LOS 2 or 3 times a year, was to F*** thai girls, I told him how good they were and that I pitied guys such as himself who had fat ugly farang women, and that if he was to do the same as me he probably wouldnt be such a frustrated wanker.

Upon hearing this, the search was stopped, he smiled and said that I was free to go.

The look on his face was priceless!

[QUOTE=MikeInSeattle]I am planning a trip later this year to asia. I will be travelling to Bangkok plus one more asian city which I have narrowed down to four (Ho Chi Minh, Phonm Penh, Kaula Lumper and Manila).

Can you guys suggest which city I should choose among the four which has best looking girls, reasonable prices.

Thnak you in advance for your help.[/QUOTE]

In order of getting laid - based on pricing only
Cambodia
Jkt
Manila
KL
HCMC

I've mongered in three of these cities

KL: does has its advantages in having a more racially diverse selection which is a big plus for me but is more expensive. Can enjoy the forbidden fruit of Muslim women.

HCMC: hot women but hard to find and sometimes expensive. Puritanical communist regime doesn't make the hobby any easier.

PP: all round cheapness factor is a plus but felt slightly dangerous. Worth it to make the prilgimage to Sophie's bar though. Can be a really shit destination to get to with bad infrastructure if travelling cheaply.

I enjoyed KL better than PP or HCMC as I was not driven wholly by cost.

[QUOTE=MikeInSeattle]I am planning a trip later this year to asia. I will be travelling to Bangkok plus one more asian city which I have narrowed down to four (Ho Chi Minh, Phonm Penh, Kaula Lumper and Manila).

Can you guys suggest which city I should choose among the four which has best looking girls, reasonable prices.

Thnak you in advance for your help.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]In order of getting laid - based on pricing only
Cambodia
Jkt
Manila
KL
HCMC[/QUOTE]

Now, in order of personal preference and experience (although never tried PP):

Jkt - (by far my favorite) much better muslim women than KL :D
Manila
KL
HCMC - dead last

I haven't been to Manila or KL.

I can tell you Phnom Penh is a much EASIER scene than HCMC, much more user friendly and caters to foreigners more. There you should have far more selection and well established prices that are reasonable. HCMC has nothing like Martinis, for example, and that is just one part of what's available in PP. It also seems as if you have more choice in PP because in many places you go there will be plenty on offer together in one room. I mean, Martinis is packed with girls, all of them working. Any place you go, they're all working. Eliminates a lot of the difficulty. Contrast with HCMC, where you won't find out until you ask (maybe too late) if this is a girl who can go out with you or not. And HCMC tends to always offer small numbers of girls in each place, usually showing you just a few at a time. Just too much work.

Prices overall are higher these days in PP. A lot of the low end scene is the same, the typical $20 or so, but now there's also a growing scene of high end places that costs $60 and up.

[QUOTE=Raverboy]I concur with Retired Army, although I'll kick in the following just to make the decision a little more interesting:

Manila/Jakarta (tie), Phnom Penh, HCMC then KL. In that order.[/QUOTE]


Jakarta is a great place, but it isn't on the list for his trip,

AND Cambodia has a lot of ethnic Vietnamese so you can cover both bases in one place. HCMC is filled with scams and touts for p4p so you might spend a lot of money without much return. There should be a special thread for comparative studies of regional hobby destinations.


[QUOTE=Wendella]I haven't been to Manila or KL.

I can tell you Phnom Penh is a much EASIER scene than HCMC, much more user friendly and caters to foreigners more. There you should have far more selection and well established prices that are reasonable. HCMC has nothing like Martinis, for example, and that is just one part of what's available in PP. It also seems as if you have more choice in PP because in many places you go there will be plenty on offer together in one room. I mean, Martinis is packed with girls, all of them working. Any place you go, they're all working. Eliminates a lot of the difficulty. Contrast with HCMC, where you won't find out until you ask (maybe too late) if this is a girl who can go out with you or not. And HCMC tends to always offer small numbers of girls in each place, usually showing you just a few at a time. Just too much work.

Prices overall are higher these days in PP. A lot of the low end scene is the same, the typical $20 or so, but now there's also a growing scene of high end places that costs $60 and up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wendella]I haven't been to Manila or KL.

I can tell you Phnom Penh is a much EASIER scene than HCMC, much more user friendly and caters to foreigners more. There you should have far more selection and well established prices that are reasonable. HCMC has nothing like Martinis, for example, and that is just one part of what's available in PP. It also seems as if you have more choice in PP because in many places you go there will be plenty on offer together in one room. I mean, Martinis is packed with girls, all of them working. Any place you go, they're all working. Eliminates a lot of the difficulty. Contrast with HCMC, where you won't find out until you ask (maybe too late) if this is a girl who can go out with you or not. And HCMC tends to always offer small numbers of girls in each place, usually showing you just a few at a time. Just too much work.

Prices overall are higher these days in PP. A lot of the low end scene is the same, the typical $20 or so, but now there's also a growing scene of high end places that costs $60 and up.[/QUOTE]Thank you everyone for the info. Although, price is not a big concern for me, its seems from replies that either Phonh Pehn or Manila would be best choices. I am thinking of most likely to go with Cambodia.

Is there lot to do during the day? How does it compare with Bangkok?

Last fall this girl was one half of a great tag team. St. Paddy's weekend I had to throw her out. Started out with a great Knobber then while boning her the cell phone starts ringing and she is on the cell while I'm doing the doggy. I let her take the call but it was "feenees". She was so sure I was going to pay her the 1kbht, because she probably pulled the same crap on somebody else the day before and that fool payed. Had to raise my voice and push her around a little bit. She cried too, ON QUEUE. She was working some farhang on the phone on MY TIME!! Her Boyfriend?!?! I saw the guy's picture on her cell and he wasn't a bad looking guy. Maybe the EC is becoming like the US with pushy, in-charge women. She went from a threatening tone to a begging tone. I told her to go the the Nana lot and get another. I gave her $200 bht for the limited engagement. It was very frustrating but I immediately went out and got a nice Isan girl that looked so shy and less enthusiastic than this one but performed exquisitely. This skinny one was walking off with another dude.

Thailand is still a fun place, and #1 in fact this kind of stuff actually adds a little excitement. Screwing with the girls is a sport in itself. I got my pole smoked and 10 minutes worth of boning for 200bht. All she did was give me an excuse to give her the gate and go to work on another. This was some inexpensive foreplay. Remember that at Nana and many other Hotels, the staff will back you up 100%. The slapper's ID at that front desk is your insurance. Nobody is going to kick your ass for standing up for your rights as a bootymonger!! The security will not tell you that you just picked up a ladyboy. This is where the front desk and security has their fun.

[QUOTE=MikeInSeattle]Thank you everyone for the info. Although, price is not a big concern for me, its seems from replies that either Phonh Pehn or Manila would be best choices. I am thinking of most likely to go with Cambodia.

Is there lot to do during the day? How does it compare with Bangkok?[/QUOTE]

Regardless of your final destination(s), my sense is you're a newbie. Best to RTFF (read the friendly forum) and do your homework before you step over to the 'dark side'.....invest and pay jackson the full subscription fee so that you can take advantage of pm to seniors.

Pussy here can smell a rookie a mile away and will milk you dry - literally;)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Now, in order of personal preference and experience (although never tried PP):

Jkt - (by far my favorite) much better muslim women than KL :D
Manila
KL
HCMC - dead last[/QUOTE]


hey traveler


What about China I know that is not cheaper than Cambodia but it should rate in between jkt and Manila and service and quality is some of the best in the world .



fast eddie 48

Yeah we probably should do follow-up questions about Phnom Penh over in the Cambodia thread, not here in Bangkok. Not nearly as much to do or see there daytime as in BKK, but a few things definitely very worth checking out (highlights: S-21 prison, royal palace, art museum, etc... best would be side trip to Angkor for a few days, which is amazing).

this is the story that i encountered last march 12 at bkk.

i met a girl on sukhumvit soi 3 just before reaching grace hotel. she was really my kindof girl so i walkin' to ask the price. she reply that she wasn't working but still wanted to fuck with me for free. well, i of course said yes, and ask her if she would come to my place. she then insisted to go to her room but before she had to call a friend of her so she won't come in while we are fucking. anyway, she took me to a shorttime hotel room (soi 3), and i started to feel strange because it was empty, only the bed was there and no personal belongings of her. anyway she ask me if i really wanted to do it, and if i changed my mind it was ok. but if i still wanted to do it, i had to go till the end (meaning till the ejaculation ? ) then i started to feel really bad, like a animal who's trapped. i asked her age, she told me she was 22, and not ****d, so i convince myself i was just paranoiac.

anyway i try to kiss her, she refused, we got naked, i ask for a blowjob, she refused again, so i told her i would put a condom and she started to blow me. it was the worst blowjob i've ever had in my whole life. of course, i was not able to have an erection cause of the stress so i decided to quit the room. problem : i was so paranoiac at that moment, when i wanted to get rid of the condom, i found the room completly sealed. even the window was completly sealed. anyway i was really afraid that a thai guy or a cop comes in and try to blackmail me after seeing her girlfriend with an used condom in the room.

later a friend told me about stories of blackmail technique where men get caught with young **** girls by a civilian cop (fake?) and ask to pay or beeing blacklisted forever from thailand. what do you think guys ? did i escape some sort of new trap ? i took the picture while she pretend calling her friend.

That would be opening a huge can of worms for this forum. Fast Edd, Im sure you realise how many threads there are in the china forum alone. Now, maybe shanghai or Beijing, might be a bit more sensible; at least practical.
Sid

[quote=kalimero68]
later a friend told me about stories of blackmail technique where men get caught with young **** girls by a civilian cop (fake?) and ask to pay or beeing blacklisted forever from thailand. did i escape some sort of new trap?[/quote]

in ne brazil, this has been going on for a while to unsuspecting mongerers. there, the sting is usually with real, but corrupt cops, who threaten jail or a$$ whuppin' or both in exchange for money. the problem is exacerbated by 1) being a newbie and not speaking the language, 2) going to an unfamiliar motel to romp, and 3) being really drunk.

solution: be vigilant! have your own love motels picked out beforehand. try to make sure she is of age (with id). make friends with security wherever you go to screw (b/c they will throw her a$$ on the street quick). and never ever let the chica use her cell phone while with you--i dont care if she has 3 kids at home...especially if you dont speak the language.

i've never been to se asia, but having been to brazil and dr over 15 times, i imagine all these corrupt b*stards are the same. and with dateline nbc "predator stings" getting more popular here in the us, i am surprised we dont hear more about these scams. i say be careful fellas!

NY Times article on men's health and life expectancy....my favorite line was: [i] "Sexual health is the portal to men's health," says Ridwan Shabsigh, associate professor of urology at Columbia University in New York. [/i]

Damn if we need a prof to explain that to us :)

Complete copy can be read in attachment.

[quote=fresh meat 2]i have been to los many times, usually when i arrive back in nz i have little if any problems with the customs officers, that was until my last trip at the beginning of 2007.

on the way through customs i was ushered aside, and a search of my belongings took place, (nothing untoward found), then the questions started, enquiring as to why i visited los 2 or 3 times a year, the customs officers attitude was very rude, he was around 24 years old, about half my age and i wasnt happy with his line of questioning, so i let him have it.

i told him that the real reason i travel to los 2 or 3 times a year, was to f*** thai girls, i told him how good they were and that i pitied guys such as himself who had fat ugly farang women, and that if he was to do the same as me he probably wouldnt be such a frustrated wanker.

upon hearing this, the search was stopped, he smiled and said that i was free to go.

the look on his face was priceless![/quote]
several friends have advised me how to beat traffic tickets. now you are telling me to let the customs guys have it and they will lay off me. well, i have my first court date on a recent speeding ticket and i have asked the court to make the cop produce permits to stake out an area. inspection cert that the radar gun was accurate and about 15 others things. i fear the judge, and in your case the customs officer if i take your guidance, will look at me like i am a wise ass and throw the book at me... will advise how it all plays out.

v

i heard about these scams in ne brasil cities, especially such as manaus, and also in bahia ect, but have not actually know any one who ran into these scams in all these years in and out of brasil. i think its still quite rare, and with some caution it can be avoided.


do you remember there was a case of an accused german **** who mysteriously died in jail while in custody in northeastern city of udon thani in thailand not long ago. i heard from a long time expat in udon when i was there a while ago, he said it was most likely a police scam gone bad, and the uniform guys had to shut him up-dead man don't talk strategy again. a very popular strategy to foreigners in thailand from the authority. thats why the case was hurriedly closed without any autopsy or inquiry into his death.


in ne brasil, i think the scam mostly involve fake cops, but in thailand, it can be much more dangerous, because a whole gang of real cops can be involved, and they would probably do anything if the scam has gone sour.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Mea culpa. Yes, I did take it from that site. I never claimed she is from Bangkok. I just wanted to point out what an oxymoron question the original mongerer had put up.

What the heck is an Indian type. There are so many type of features that Indian people have from the white Caucasian, to the Mongoloid to the Oriental and to the African. They are different from region to region within India. Nepalis, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans and Bangladeshis are also similar. So there is no Indian type.

And for the last question, yes I have seen similar in Bangkok. An Indian guy I know whose wife has similar features. But not available.[/QUOTE]Just spotted these shots when going through the photo section. DANG! If I could find a gal like that, I would be paying for more than just the night. OUCH!

especially brasil and the land of stooges
if it ain't amazon adolescent hill triber girls they put in front of you it is their own family members out there with special permission to grow their hair long so they don't look like a school girl. it might start out with an innocent back rub on a quiet side street in pattaya. fortunately if you ain't too drunk you can pick right up on their escapades, just like the dude in the sealed up room post. a spunked-in condom can be used to plant "evidence". we only read about the people who get out of jail from dna, not all the poor souls that are framed by dna. remember that if a cop asks to use your bathroom anyplace. definately check ids everyplace. subracts 543 to get the buddist year, and make sure that id is sealed up nicely with a hologram and that the picture is a dead ringer. that german was probably an outraged tightwad that wouldn't come up with the tea money. they know we have a hard time telling their age in thailand and in help disco in rio i've seen undercover lady cops with **** girls there texting each other and all shifty eyed. every punter is a potential victim if he isn't careful or gets too ef'dupped

I posted this about 10 hours ago but seems to have gone missing

Ok,

Booked flights to Bangkok for 9 days in August.

Now I am after some advice.

What are the best hotels (3 or 4 stars, maybe 5 if not too $$$$) in the best areas that are girl friendly?

Do I have to book accom for 2 people or just one (I'm planning on girl company in my hotel room each night).

Please help me guys.

You might think I'm stupid. Well whenit comes to this, yes I am.

This is my first trip to Bangkok for the purpose of attending bars and sex.

Please help guys.

Big Yuley,

The Swiss Grottino is an ideal place for you to stay, I have stayed there on my last 3 trips to Bkok.

Location is A+, around $60US per nite, extremely girl friendly.

Contact them on [email]swissgrottino@yahoo.com[/email]

You will be very happy there.

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]I posted this about 10 hours ago but seems to have gone missing
Ok,
Booked flights to Bangkok for 9 days in August.
Now I am after some advice.
What are the best hotels (3 or 4 stars, maybe 5 if not too $$$$) in the best areas that are girl friendly?
Do I have to book accom for 2 people or just one (I'm planning on girl company in my hotel room each night).
Please help me guys.
You might think I'm stupid. Well whenit comes to this, yes I am.
This is my first trip to Bangkok for the purpose of attending bars and sex.
Please help guys.[/QUOTE]

Big Yuley, I guess you really have not been reading the forum. All of your questions have been answered over and over and over again. You just have to do a bit of searching to find the answers.

People here do want to be friendly and helpful, but it is expected that you would have done a bit of research first and then maybe asked some specific questions based upon that research. For instance you could have narrowed down the hotel choices to some specifics and then you might have been able to ask some more specific questions.

And if you really read the forum you would see there has been an ongoing discussion about new members coming on and asking questions that would be answered if they just RTFF. Unfortunately you just walked into the crossfire.

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]I posted this about 10 hours ago but seems to have gone missing

Ok,

Booked flights to Bangkok for 9 days in August.

Now I am after some advice.

What are the best hotels (3 or 4 stars, maybe 5 if not too $$$$) in the best areas that are girl friendly?

Do I have to book accom for 2 people or just one (I'm planning on girl company in my hotel room each night).

Please help me guys.

You might think I'm stupid. Well whenit comes to this, yes I am.

This is my first trip to Bangkok for the purpose of attending bars and sex.

Please help guys.[/QUOTE]

BY, I would not tell you to RTFF. I have learned my lesson. I will help you to have a completely stress free vacation for 9 days in BKK. Please deposit $15,000 USD in my account and you will get the following (all inclusive).

1. RT from Airport to Hotel in limo with a lady to receive you and drop you off..
2. Stay in a beautiful boutique hotel with a double jacuzzi and king size bed.
3. A good selection of women for you to choose from every day. On two days you get one additional lady at no extra charge.
4. All meals and liquor included.
5. All massages included anywhere you choose.
6. Sightseeing tours in BKK and surrounding areas in a private car.

Please let me know your dates and I will send you the details.

Gentlemen, did I leave anything out?

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]
What are the best hotels (3 or 4 stars, maybe 5 if not too $$$$) in the best areas that are girl friendly?
Do I have to book accom for 2 people or just one (I'm planning on girl company in my hotel room each night).
[/QUOTE]
There is a whole other thread back in the Thailand section (use your back button) dedicated to Bangkok Hotels, I'm sure you'll find exactly what you're looking for in there. There's 2 separate main areas of action in Bkk and most people here seem to prefer the Sukhumvit area, near Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. Patpong is the other main area. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]I posted this about 10 hours ago but seems to have gone missing

Ok,

Booked flights to Bangkok for 9 days in August.

Now I am after some advice.

What are the best hotels (3 or 4 stars, maybe 5 if not too $$$$) in the best areas that are girl friendly?

Do I have to book accom for 2 people or just one (I'm planning on girl company in my hotel room each night).

Please help me guys.

You might think I'm stupid. Well whenit comes to this, yes I am.

This is my first trip to Bangkok for the purpose of attending bars and sex.

Please help guys.[/QUOTE]

as a legend in the tennis world used to say :

"YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!"

You have 7 posts, 6 of them asking such a basic question that your bible the Lonely Planet can answer very easily, then you bash Smoothy, who is a HUGE contributor in the Jakarta forum when you say this to him about a girl he picked up in NEP. have you even been to NEP ????

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]You are whinging over about $65 US dollars.
Please, Get a life.[/QUOTE]

Way to make friends, man. !!!

God, I have not looked at the forum in several days, and I feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog day :(

Wow, so many responses to a newb. Duni, you forgot the part about bending over to receive the warm welcome on the third floor of NEP.

(And BY, Duni's price is way inflated. I can do all the above for $13,500). And MY tour includes shopping for very expensive bargains, and bargaining hard at Paragon. PM me so I can give you the account numbers.

Ignore the BESTARDS for shitting on you ;)

If you pay Jackson and become full member, I will PM you with more advice.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Ignore the BESTARDS for shitting on you ;)

If you pay Jackson and become full member, I will PM you with more advice.[/QUOTE]
Pussy ;)
Well, since he seems to be a high roller, the 20$ should be no problem. Let's see.

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]I posted this about 10 hours ago but seems to have gone missing

Ok,

Booked flights to Bangkok for 9 days in August.

Now I am after some advice.

What are the best hotels (3 or 4 stars, maybe 5 if not too $$$$) in the best areas that are girl friendly?

Do I have to book accom for 2 people or just one (I'm planning on girl company in my hotel room each night).

Please help me guys.

You might think I'm stupid. Well whenit comes to this, yes I am.

This is my first trip to Bangkok for the purpose of attending bars and sex.

Please help guys.[/QUOTE]

Oh fuckem! Ask the questions, someone will give you a straight answer.

Look, just stay at the J.W. Marriott on Sukhumvit Soi 2 if you can afford it. Stay the hell away from the Nana Entertainment Plaza and head straight to the Pegagus Club which is kind of behind Soi Cowboy (check the internet for directions) and have the time of your life.

Bestards,

PLEASE!

This is the Bangkok Reports thread, and not Giotto's Lodge in Thailand.

If you don't like the questions from some members there is the option to simply ignore it!

Can we get some reports about the nightlife in Bangkok, please?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Retired Army]Oh fuckem! Ask the questions, someone will give you a straight answer.

Look, just stay at the J.W. Marriott on Sukhumvit Soi 2 if you can afford it. Stay the hell away from the Nana Entertainment Plaza and head straight to the Pegagus Club which is kind of behind Soi Cowboy (check the internet for directions) and have the time of your life.[/QUOTE]Is JW girl friendly or is there a join fee?

I could not find pegagus club but a pegasus club - are they the same?

Are there less expensive massage parlors - I would like to fuck as many times as possible with all differnt girls.

Go to the Nana hotel. Girls are out front.


[QUOTE=Big Yuley]I posted this about 10 hours ago but seems to have gone missing

Ok,

Booked flights to Bangkok for 9 days in August.

Now I am after some advice.

What are the best hotels (3 or 4 stars, maybe 5 if not too $$$$) in the best areas that are girl friendly?

Do I have to book accom for 2 people or just one (I'm planning on girl company in my hotel room each night).

Please help me guys.

You might think I'm stupid. Well whenit comes to this, yes I am.

This is my first trip to Bangkok for the purpose of attending bars and sex.

Please help guys.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Duniawala] Please deposit $15,000 USD in my account and you will get the following (all inclusive).[/QUOTE]I'm amazed at your generosity. How can you afford to do all that for a measly $15K? Oh, I see, internet access is extra! Very good.

Yesterday I had sex in Bangkok for 200 baht! Yes, that's right, even in terms of the collapsed dollar that is about $6.

I was walking around Chinatown in the afternoon heat looking for my skinny favorite from last time, when a rather ugly but not too misshapen woman of about 35 offered boom boom and smoke for 200. I thought, why not? After a preliminary interrogation about barebacking we were off to the short time hotel.

Alas it was one I remembered as the worst of the lot - only 50 baht but with peices of curtain material instead of towels. The sheet was so dirty that I found myself distracted by thoughts of scabies as I reclined for the blowjob. We followed this with a rousing session of doggy style, but I was unable to finish due to her unattractiveness and the heat.

I offer up this anecdote to reassure those mongers who have been dismayed by recent talk of ever inflating prices in the Capital. Still, this one - too crappy to even make me come - was less of a bargain than the skinny one for 500 a month or so ago.

Opeabody, your post made me chuckle - thanks.

You say you're not worried about getting syphilis or HIV etc from barebacking, but you *are* worried about scabies (?!)

A little bit of scabies cream and a pubic shave will kill those pesky little crabs, my fiendish friend. Now I know you're just posting for a laugh.

PS - can I have the number of the 50 baht hotel please?
[QUOTE=Opebo]Yesterday I had sex in Bangkok for 200 baht! Yes, that's right, even in terms of the collapsed dollar that is about $6.

I was walking around Chinatown in the afternoon heat looking for my skinny favorite from last time, when a rather ugly but not too misshapen woman of about 35 offered boom boom and smoke for 200. I thought, why not? After a preliminary interrogation about barebacking we were off to the short time hotel.

Alas it was one I remembered as the worst of the lot - only 50 baht but with peices of curtain material instead of towels. The sheet was so dirty that I found myself distracted by thoughts of scabies as I reclined for the blowjob. We followed this with a rousing session of doggy style, but I was unable to finish due to her unattractiveness and the heat.

I offer up this anecdote to reassure those mongers who have been dismayed by recent talk of ever inflating prices in the Capital. Still, this one - too crappy to even make me come - was less of a bargain than the skinny one for 500 a month or so ago.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Retired Army]Oh fuckem! Ask the questions, someone will give you a straight answer.

Look, just stay at the J.W. Marriott on Sukhumvit Soi 2 if you can afford it. Stay the hell away from the Nana Entertainment Plaza and head straight to the Pegagus Club which is kind of behind Soi Cowboy (check the internet for directions) and have the time of your life.[/QUOTE]

What is the story at the Pegasus Club? I haven't heard of it...

Please enlighten

Harihara

[QUOTE=Hari Hara]What is the story at the Pegasus Club? I haven't heard of it...
[/QUOTE]Hari Hara,

The Pegasus Club is a "High-Class" men's member club, located in a side road of Sukhumvit Soi 23. On the same area you find the Narzissus Disco (Techno, House), same ownership.

Usually you have to be a member to get in there, but in the recent years they allowed visitors to enter, the last fee I heard about was THB 800,00 for only getting in there. The last time I was there is 4 years ago.

Their customers are usually Japanese, Korean and Thai, Farang only 20 %. They have lots of women working there, Karaoke rooms upstairs, the outfit of the club is quite exclusive.

After being member there for a year I realized that besides the interior, the ambience AND THE PRICES there is NOTHING special on that club. You get much better value for money in similar but smaller clubs and bars of Soi 33.

But if you are with business partners and want to impress them, and you want to make sure that the ladies can behave and communicate decently with your customers - this might be the place to go. But make sure that your company pays the bill.



Giotto

[QUOTE=Vantageman]Is JW girl friendly or is there a join fee?

I could not find pegagus club but a pegasus club - are they the same?

Are there less expensive massage parlors - I would like to fuck as many times as possible with all differnt girls.[/QUOTE]Vantageman,

I consider this now to be a provocation.

If you found something about Pegasus Club you will know that it is not a massage parlour - [b]but you will know how to use the Search Function[/b].

Information about massage parlours and prices can be found in the Bangkok Massage Parlour thread. Information about hotels, girl friendly or not, can be found in the Bangkok Hotel thread.

And now: [b][size=+2]RTFF, Bestard :) ![/size][/b]


Giotto

[QUOTE=Vantageman]Is JW girl friendly or is there a join fee?

I could not find pegagus club but a pegasus club - are they the same?

Are there less expensive massage parlors - I would like to fuck as many times as possible with all differnt girls.[/QUOTE]

You could take an elephant up to your room at the J.W, and they won't say a thing.

Maybe it is Pegasus, after a few beers my spelling becomes creative.

The Pegasus is not a massage parlor and if you want to fuck for cheap it ain't going to happen there. But, if you want the best looking, highest class ladies and don't mind paying a premium for them...

[QUOTE=Giotto]Hari Hara,

The Pegasus Club is a "High-Class" men's member club, located in a side road of Sukhumvit Soi 23. On the same area you find the Narzissus Disco (Techno, House), same ownership.

Usually you have to be a member to get in there, but in the recent years they allowed visitors to enter, the last fee I heard about was THB 800,00 for only getting in there. The last time I was there is 4 years ago.

Their customers are usually Japanese, Korean and Thai, Farang only 20 %. They have lots of women working there, Karaoke rooms upstairs, the outfit of the club is quite exclusive.

After being member there for a year I realized that besides the interior, the ambience AND THE PRICES there is NOTHING special on that club. You get much better value for money in similar but smaller clubs and bars of Soi 33.

But if you are with business partners and want to impress them, and you want to make sure that the ladies can behave and communicate decently with your customers - this might be the place to go. But make sure that your company pays the bill.



Giotto[/QUOTE]

That's pretty correct.

I was a member for a couple of years, and if I remember correctly, it was about 30,000 baht a year for the membership fee. But I considered it worth the money. I got X number of bottles of Jack Daniels and X number of bar fines. I don't remember how many, but it was generous.

Here is how I justified my membership: 30,000/12 = 2,500 baht a month. I could go into the Pegasus anytime I wanted, stay as long as I wanted and drink all I wanted for free, look at the girls at my leisure, pick the one I fancied and either take her upstairs or home with me. The best thing about the Pegasus is that I didn't have to fight off the girls always wanting to sit next to me telling them how much they loved me, what a hansome man I was, where did I come from, how long you stay Bangkok, etc, etc, etc... Unlike Soi 33 I didn't have to worry about them padding my bill because there never was one. Just a couple hundred baht for the tips for the bartenders, 20 for the men's room attendent and fifty for the doorman who got me a cab.

Non-members can get in and if the fee is only 800 THB then it is one hell of a bargain.

[QUOTE=Retired Army]That's pretty correct.

I was a member for a couple of years, and if I remember correctly, it was about 30,000 baht a year for the membership fee. But I considered it worth the money. I got X number of bottles of Jack Daniels and X number of bar fines. I don't remember how many, but it was generous.

Here is how I justified my membership: 30,000/12 = 2,500 baht a month. I could go into the Pegasus anytime I wanted, stay as long as I wanted and drink all I wanted for free, look at the girls at my leisure, pick the one I fancied and either take her upstairs or home with me.

...

Non-members can get in and if the fee is only 800 THB then it is one hell of a bargain.[/QUOTE]Retired Army,

Hmm ... I am not sure that you understood my remark about the prices correctly. I found it expensive, compared to other Bangkok bars.

THB 30,000 for 7 bottles of liquor and 7 barfines (as I remember) may look generous for members. But to go there as a non-member, pay THB 800.00 only for getting in there, and then getting charged for drinks, lady drinks while a girl is sitting with you not longer than 20 - 30 min. , I would be surprised if somebody left there as a guest without having paid less than THB 4,000 - without additional costs for the ladies services upstairs, or bar fines to take one out.


Giotto

PS: I never finished my bottles of Gin there, I think 6 of them are still in the club :) .

[QUOTE=Retired Army]You could take an elephant up to your room at the J.W, and they won't say a thing.[/QUOTE]
In this situation, definitely prudent to make sure ahead of time it's not a ladyboy elephant.

[QUOTE=Opebo]Yesterday I had sex in Bangkok for 200 baht! Yes, that's right, even in terms of the collapsed dollar that is about $6.

I was walking around Chinatown in the afternoon heat looking for my skinny favorite from last time, when a rather ugly but not too misshapen woman of about 35 offered boom boom and smoke for 200. I thought, why not? After a preliminary interrogation about barebacking we were off to the short time hotel.

Alas it was one I remembered as the worst of the lot - only 50 baht but with peices of curtain material instead of towels. The sheet was so dirty that I found myself distracted by thoughts of scabies as I reclined for the blowjob. We followed this with a rousing session of doggy style, but I was unable to finish due to her unattractiveness and the heat.

I offer up this anecdote to reassure those mongers who have been dismayed by recent talk of ever inflating prices in the Capital. Still, this one - too crappy to even make me come - was less of a bargain than the skinny one for 500 a month or so ago.[/QUOTE]

opebo you have been before and you may forever be the record holder of the rock bottom of rock bottom monger. This requires new target setting:
New target should be 150 baht 10 years older, no towles and 10 cock roches per sq m. You will then get a free of charge bath in my double jacuzzi Livingstones hotel room (after that I change rooms).

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]opebo you have been before and you may forever be the record holder of the rock bottom of rock bottom monger.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Brian, but I have had street BJs back in the US for $10, so $6 in Thailand is really not such a bargain. I'm quite sure Thais regularly pay that, and occasionally get it for even 100 baht. After all, for a very large segment of the Thai working class, the daily wage is 200 baht or less.

[QUOTE=Opebo]Thanks, Brian, but I have had street BJs back in the US for $10, so $6 in Thailand is really not such a bargain. I'm quite sure Thais regularly pay that, and occasionally get it for even 100 baht. After all, for a very large segment of the Thai working class, the daily wage is 200 baht or less.[/QUOTE]

Damn bro - what's your secret for keeping healthy? All the bucks you save on cheapo fucks - your medical bills must be skyrocketing :D

[QUOTE=Giotto]I never finished my bottles of Gin there, I think 6 of them are still in the club :) .[/QUOTE]

Let's go over to finish it my next visit...I'll bring my corporate Platium Amex card :D

I arrived late last night and had a team of ladies arranged ahead of time to help ease me into BKK for a few days. Just on arrival at my hotel, a knock at the door and Miss Pim and Amm apeared.

They didn't know each other very well and were a bit nervious on arrival. As it was approaching 1:00am, I was anxious to get a bit cleaned up after the long flight. Miss Amm suggested the 3 of us shower together. A very nice ice breaker. I could tell that Pim was a bit nervious about the whole affair and took her sweet time changing from clothes into robe. By the time I was done in the shower, she was just about ready to jump in.

10 minutes later, the three of us were into bed. I wanted to see how well this team would work together and I let them give me a work over. I laid on my back, kissing one while the other took turns stroking old Bob. I was a bit disappointed that BBBJ was not on the menu but anxous to get the show moving. I motioned to Amm the condoms and lube on the night stand next to me. She took the hint well and proceeded to outfit Bob properly. I managed to get both ladies mounted with a bit of effort. On on Bob the other positioned to taste her natural juices. After 10 min or so. Time to switch drivers. I finished on top of Pim.

Through the night, I sampled one lady followed by a bit of sleep and then the other. Both were quite natural ladies. Not overly professional.

JD

[QUOTE=Giotto]Retired Army,

Hmm ... I am not sure that you understood my remark about the prices correctly. I found it expensive, compared to other Bangkok bars.

THB 30,000 for 7 bottles of liquor and 7 barfines (as I remember) may look generous for members. But to go there as a non-member, pay THB 800.00 only for getting in there, and then getting charged for drinks, lady drinks while a girl is sitting with you not longer than 20 - 30 min. , I would be surprised if somebody left there as a guest without having paid less than THB 4,000 - without additional costs for the ladies services upstairs, or bar fines to take one out.


Giotto

PS: I never finished my bottles of Gin there, I think 6 of them are still in the club :) .[/QUOTE]

No, I agree. Pegagus is not for cheap charlies... But compared to Europe it's a bargain.

2Nd night in BKK. Miss Bum and Miss Pookie. They were one of the best tag teams I'd ever run into. They are quite similar in size, age, attitude and seemed quite relaxed with each other.

The highlights. When I 1st had miss Pookie on all fours. Miss Bum slid up behind me, on her knees such that her chest was up against my back. She assisted my motions into Pookie with her own hip thrusting action. Now this is making love to two ladies at onec. Bum's position was just right so I could hold Pookie's ass with one hand and reach back around behind me to finger Bum's moistness with the other. We tried this and a few other tandom positions through the night and into the next day.

Look in the photo section for more detail and photos on each.

JD

[QUOTE=Jdbkk555]<cut>
I laid on my back, kissing one while the other took turns stroking old Bob. I was a bit disappointed that BBBJ was not on the menu but anxous to get the show moving. I motioned to Amm the condoms and lube on the night stand next to me. She took the hint well and proceeded to outfit Bob properly. I managed to get both ladies mounted with a bit of effort. On on Bob the other positioned to taste her natural juices. <cut>
JD[/QUOTE]
I have heard of Dick (Richard), Willie, Charlie, Percy, John Thomas, and Peter, but how come yours is called Bob???

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I have heard of Dick (Richard), Willie, Charlie, Percy, John Thomas, and Peter, but how come yours is called Bob???[/QUOTE]

because it's short...

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I have heard of Dick (Richard), Willie, Charlie, Percy, John Thomas, and Peter, but how come yours is called Bob???[/QUOTE]
Well, variety is what counts. Isn't it?

If I may ask, few posts back someone mentions that there are great girls at
this place, how much is bar-fine, how much do girls ask for overnight, and
how much does a beer cost. I am not a high roller, whatever money I have
on my trip to So East Asia I have to spread it so that it can last from four to
six months every time I visit this part of the world. Thanks to anyone who may care to answear!

[QUOTE=Samu Ray]If I may ask, few posts back someone mentions that there are great girls at
this place, how much is bar-fine, how much do girls ask for overnight, and
how much does a beer cost. I am not a high roller, whatever money I have
on my trip to So East Asia I have to spread it so that it can last from four to
six months every time I visit this part of the world. Thanks to anyone who may care to answear![/QUOTE]


If you have to ask the price, you can't afford the Pegasus.

[QUOTE=Retired Army]If you have to ask the price, you can't afford the Pegasus.[/QUOTE]

This is no doubt very true.

In addition, I'd say that P4P is a case of dimiinshing marginal return. You can get a good experience for 1500 Baht in many places in BKK. Paying 15,000 Baht as one can in Pegasus is not going to result in a 10 times better experience, only a 10 times more expensive one.

It is all about class. One spends according to one's social category. A sizeable portion of the extra price is going to pay for the exclusivity of the service, not its intrinsic quality.

As Calvin (of Calvin and Hobbes) once remarked to his stuffed tiger, "the world should have a cover charge to keep the riff-raff out".

[QUOTE=Retired Army]If you have to ask the price, you can't afford the Pegasus.[/QUOTE]

I like that :)

That's a great lead for future lazy newbie queries - send them to Pegasus....LOL

I was in the market for a pair of sisters. My typical local agent did her magic on somewhat short notice and came up with Jane and Ging. All in all. A waste of money.

Ging. 30ish with a bit of an attitude. Not bad body and she knows how to grind Jane. Her 20 yo little sister is very very new and very very small. Old Bob just about split her in two a couple of times.

The combo of the bossy older sister and the inexperienced little sister just didn't work for me. Though I did enjoy working Bob into that very small ass. Jane must have been 5 inches thick herself. So with Bob inside, I'm pretty sure it made and impact (I could certainly feel myself from the outside).

JD

[QUOTE=Jdbkk555]I was in the market for a pair of sisters. My typical local agent did her magic on somewhat short notice and came up with Jane and Ging. All in all. A waste of money.

Ging. 30ish with a bit of an attitude. Not bad body and she knows how to grind Jane. Her 20 yo little sister is very very new and very very small. Old Bob just about split her in two a couple of times.

The combo of the bossy older sister and the inexperienced little sister just didn't work for me. Though I did enjoy working Bob into that very small ass. Jane must have been 5 inches thick herself. So with Bob inside, I'm pretty sure it made and impact (I could certainly feel myself from the outside).

JD[/QUOTE]

Nice reports!! Try Black and White in the Cowboy. 9 and 30 (air and water)
thai names?

Perfect place to stay.

Everything you could want is right across the street.

[QUOTE=Rikusa]Nice reports!! Try Black and White in the Cowboy. 9 and 30 (air and water)
thai names?[/QUOTE]
"Air" is a Thai nick-name (not related to English word "air") and "Narm" is a Thai nick-name meaning "water".
BTW many "sisters" in Thailand are not real biological sisters. The word "sister" is used as a euphemism for "female close friends".
So if you really need actual real "sisters" you would need to check there Ids have the same surname for starters. Then find out if they actually have the same mother or same father.

I am embarassed to admit I have actually done sisters (Phen and Phaa), but on different occasions (not at same time), which is not really good form.
Thye didn't really look alike at all, except for both having the similar very large real tits.

Not that many Thai sisters would want to fuck the same guy and watch each other doing it. However they may be desperate for money.

Has a newbie, I'm arrassed with your posts just about newbie that asks questions and. Blalblabla.

I'm actually in BKK and staying at the Shukuv area, and I read the FAQ and about 14 pages of this forum without finding a place to go this evening near my hotel.

So please stop flaming newbie and post messages that can help others. Since it's my first day here, I'm not sure that I can help in this thread. I only tryed a MP (so maybe I'll post a report on massage thread).

But pleeeaaaasee. Stop making so much noise about newbie questions and lazyness. Thank you

P.S. : I know that this message is another one on the newbie subject.

Scams come in many forms, so I share this only to recalibrate everyone for this mild one. After BF a beauty from NEP Rainbow, we danced, in order, at my hotel then the Hollywood Disco till 3am. Capped with a snack outside the disco for a great night in every way. Back to sleep at my hotel only to be awakened at 6am by a phonecall to my gf and her saying she has to go now. I was anticipating one morning round, so this came with great disappointment. Not a true scam as she said to pay her only 1500b if I was unhappy and not the 2000b previously agreed to. Lesson: negotiate upfront the end time, I. E. 11am or noon. Of course this is not guarantee, and shit does happen.

A link to Brain666's report about his actual Bangkok experience, belongs here, too.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=592073[/url]


Giotto

Hi guys,

I like all asia scene and I know rather well BKK by night of course I like now. In parallele with the classic games. (street girls / shop & office girls / oil / soapy / FL / BJbars / ratchada or ekkamai disco or are&be girls. Low class or upscale girls and so on. LOL, by the way I enjoyed a lot of good addresses thank so much to you and ISG) go outside of the beatten tracks WITH YOUR EXPERT HELP; o)) For me, escape a little bit from those regular places is more fun.

==> I want to know if the local people / expats use sometime to go to REGULAR hairdcut with happy ending: (sorry my english is weak) I am not speaking about the locations in the lower sukhumvit sois like 7 or 4, which are good but too much formatted to my taste now (anyway I will continue to go these shops) what I am looking for, is a little bit "REMOTE" locations like ekkamai / thonglor / on nut locations where it is possible to get some sexy services following a basic haircut / barber shop job. I remember few monthes ago I read on ISG / BKK topics one of us talking about thonglor:

[quote] Place were up Sukhumvit before you come to soi 55. One is on the north side and the other on the south. Blow jobs after the haircut. This included a decent head and neck massage and the haircut was OK too. Total about B500. They were surprised to see a farang come into the shop, but delighted none the less to take my money. [/quote]Last time I was in BKK I went to tonglor to try, I spend 30mn to find it, I saw barber shop (on north) who was looking to be the right one, I didn't see any other one around, I had doubt but I got in and I got the regular:.((service. As I was inside getting some haircut I was pretty sure then to be in a wrong saloon. So if you understand what I am looking for and if you know some address please let me know on the board!

Thanks guys

Hey Guys,

Recently passed through BKK and hoped to have the pleasure of the lovely Anny (left from Aviva)

Couldn't make any contact so had to go and find some alternative ; (
Any body had any sightings and better still any report of her 'massages' recently ??

Reebee1

[QUOTE=Westsider]Scams come in many forms, so I share this only to recalibrate everyone for this mild one. After BF a beauty from NEP Rainbow, we danced, in order, at my hotel then the Hollywood Disco till 3am. Capped with a snack outside the disco for a great night in every way. Back to sleep at my hotel only to be awakened at 6am by a phonecall to my gf and her saying she has to go now. I was anticipating one morning round, so this came with great disappointment. Not a true scam as she said to pay her only 1500b if I was unhappy and not the 2000b previously agreed to. Lesson: negotiate upfront the end time, I. E. 11am or noon. Of course this is not guarantee, and shit does happen.[/QUOTE]

Your right you should be negotiating the end time, but by the sounds of this it sounds quite ok, maybe the call was to attend to something urgent. You know Thai hookers have real lives too? Never heard of a call being used as a ploy to get a girl out of a job at 6am. The fact she allowed a lower rate would indicate it was genuine and not a scam.

[QUOTE=Westsider]Scams come in many forms, so I share this only to recalibrate everyone for this mild one. After BF a beauty from NEP Rainbow, we danced, in order, at my hotel then the Hollywood Disco till 3am. Capped with a snack outside the disco for a great night in every way. Back to sleep at my hotel only to be awakened at 6am by a phonecall to my gf and her saying she has to go now. I was anticipating one morning round, so this came with great disappointment. Not a true scam as she said to pay her only 1500b if I was unhappy and not the 2000b previously agreed to. Lesson: negotiate upfront the end time, I. E. 11am or noon. Of course this is not guarantee, and shit does happen.[/QUOTE]
In my experience, LT lasts till morning if you are lucky and rarely till lunchtime. The price was an excellent one anyway.

Always ask what time she has to go and set alarm for well before that to ensure time for an invigourating "happy beginning" to the day.
I do understand well those who prefer a good screw to start the day. Far more important than breakfast.

My idea of a perfect alarm cock (I mean clock) is to wake up with the girl already slurping on your dick. This is really only practical with girls that you have very well trained unfortunately. Its best to have a very thorough wash after sex the previous night to ensure everything will taste nice in the morning. I even keep mouth freshener near the bed.

[QUOTE=Maphrao]<cut>
==> I want to know if the local people / expats use sometime to go to REGULAR hairdcut with happy ending: (sorry my english is weak) I am not speaking about the locations in the lower sukhumvit sois like 7 or 4, which are good but too much formatted to my taste now (anyway I will continue to go these shops) what I am looking for, is a little bit "REMOTE" locations like ekkamai / thonglor / on nut locations where it is possible to get some sexy services following a basic haircut / barber shop job. I remember few monthes ago I read on ISG / BKK topics one of us talking about thonglor:
<CUT>
[/QUOTE]
Coconut,

When I need a haircut I go to a place that specialises in haircuts and does a great job for a very good price. Its a beauty salon and most of the customers are Thai females.

When I want a blowjob I go somewhere else.
I wouldn't want a blowjob specialist to cut my hair. She might make a mess of it as was my experience in a Sukhumwit place with pretty girls sitting in the window. They didn't know how to cut and I didn't try anything else.
But then if you just get No. 2 clipper across the whole head, its easy, I guess.

What is the real benefit of going to a remote location (or perhaps these locations were actually closer to you) to try to get both?
Must be you are trying for a super bargain basement price??? or do you have so little time available (i.e. do you need an excuse to be away from wife)?

[QUOTE=Samu Ray]If I may ask, few posts back someone mentions that there are great girls at
this place, how much is bar-fine, how much do girls ask for overnight, and
how much does a beer cost. I am not a high roller, whatever money I have
on my trip to So East Asia I have to spread it so that it can last from four to
six months every time I visit this part of the world. Thanks to anyone who may care to answear![/QUOTE]

Samu,

Forget Pegasus. It will cost you 5 to 10 times what you can pay elsewhere. I spent an evening there and it's ok if you are looking for something different, but really, the girls are not any different once you get them back to your hotel. They are just dressed better and the place promotes an image and feel of exclusivity, but it's not worth it if you have budget constraints.

They have a membership package (includes X amount of barfines, drinks, etc.) but was about 50,000 baht for a one or two year membership when I was there. I could be wrong about the amount, since it was a few years ago, but you get the picture. When they were making their pitch to me, there was also a non-member option.

The Pent Executive club is supposed to be in the same price range, but they appear to have a better selection of woman.

Good luck!
AT2

Hi Guys,

Have been reading your forum for some time. I'm coming down to Bangkok for the first time ever and wanted some help:

1) I'm staying at the J.W. Marriott. Is it girl-friendly?
2) Where can I go to locate some South American (Colombian, Brazilian, Venezuelan) and CIS (Russian, Baltic states) P4P ??? Instead of the usual massage parlours, I was wondering if there were any night clubs or discos where these type of girls hang out.......

I'm from Dubai & India. Will happily exchange info with any of you through PM.

Thanks for the help,

Cool Sinbad

[QUOTE=Retired Army]You could take an elephant up to your room at the J.W, and they won't say a thing.

[/QUOTE]

Yes, but they draw the line at Giraffes. ;)

Cool Sinbad - Read through the Hotel Thread. Lot's of info on the J.W. and other hotels.

AT2

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Yes, but they draw the line at Giraffes. ;)

Cool Sinbad - Read through the Hotel Thread. Lot's of info on the J.W. and other hotels.

AT2[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the quick reply AT2.....

And for the "exotic" (South American, Russian) P4P ? Should I try CM2, as a few posts seem to indicate? Or is there another place that is better?

Thanks again,

Cool Sinbad

[QUOTE=Rico Tls]
I'm actually in BKK and staying at the Shukuv area, and I read the FAQ and about 14 pages of this forum without finding a place to go this evening near my hotel.

[/QUOTE]

Personally never heard of Shukuv area - so my question is did you read the FAQ and 14 pages 'before' or after you arrived? What hotel are you stayn at? How come no place to go - what are you looking for: MP, go go bars, FL??

Good luck!

PS - pay jackson to become full member, then seniors (eg nic frenchy) would pm you directly ;)

[quote=maphrao]hi guys,

==> i want to know if the local people / expats use sometime to go to regular hairdcut with happy ending: (sorry my english is weak) i am not speaking about the locations in the lower sukhumvit sois like 7 or 4, which are good but too much formatted to my taste now (anyway i will continue to go these shops) what i am looking for, is a little bit "remote" locations like ekkamai / thonglor / on nut locations where it is possible to get some sexy services following a basic haircut / barber shop job. i remember few monthes ago i read on isg / bkk topics one of us talking about thonglor: [/quote]i would agree with what mick said. get a haircut at a nice salon and a bj with a bj pro, that way you maximize your chances of beaing very happy with both.

now, getting a bj from a haircut girl is possible. you can basically go to any barber shop in bangkok and start flirting with the girl cutting your hair. sometimes you get lucky.

now, this is a good strategy if you are an expat and have a few months ahead of you (unfortunately hair don't grow back instantly so you can't go "shop around"). if you're a tourist, forget it, get a haircut and go to sol ot [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].

[QUOTE=Maphrao]Hi guys,

..................................
==> I want to know if the local people / expats use sometime to go to REGULAR hairdcut with happy ending: (sorry my english is weak) I am not speaking about the locations in the lower sukhumvit sois like 7 or 4, which are good but too much formatted to my taste now (anyway I will continue to go these shops) what I am looking for, is a little bit "REMOTE" locations like ekkamai / thonglor / on nut locations where it is possible to get some sexy services following a basic haircut / barber shop job. I remember few monthes ago I read on ISG / BKK topics one of us talking about thonglor:

Last time I was in BKK I went to tonglor to try, I spend 30mn to find it, I saw barber shop (on north) who was looking to be the right one, I didn't see any other one around, I had doubt but I got in and I got the regular:.((service. As I was inside getting some haircut I was pretty sure then to be in a wrong saloon. So if you understand what I am looking for and if you know some address please let me know on the board!

Thanks guys[/QUOTE]

There is a salom called Smiles on Soi 15, just before Manhattan Hotel. It's in the 1st building when you enter the Soi. They have a massage parlor adjoining it connected to it. Owner is the same and you can enter it thru the salon if you want. Although I have never asked for a BJ specifically, you can try it. Let us know.

Another one but also off Sukhumvit

Friend's Barber & Massage
16/3 Sukhumvit Soi 19

Located only 200 metres away from sukhumvit
Traditonal thai massage. Reflexology. Oil massage.

Downstairs they have foot massage (good), two barber chairs (decent cut) and upstairs massage (thai and oil both good) and whatever else (never tried but asked many times) ..... you don't necessarily get to pick your girl.

Good way to kill a few hours but never asked for any extras...too many other alternatives.

Ree Bee and Maphrao,

Since both of you have recently been to BKK or are currently in BKK mongering at the moment and are referencing places that you've been , or places that you "normally go", how about telling us about them?

It sounds like you have information that you could share with us.

Rico -- If you cannot get laid in Bangkok -- with or without advice from seasoned fellow mongers -- the problem is you and not them.
You ought to have read much more than 14 pages. But that is your problem, as you have amply demonstrated.
Are you sure you are in the right city?

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Another one but also off Sukhumvit

Friend's Barber & Massage
16/3 Sukhumvit Soi 19

Located only 200 metres away from sukhumvit
Traditonal thai massage. Reflexology. Oil massage.

Downstairs they have foot massage (good), two barber chairs (decent cut) and upstairs massage (thai and oil both good) and whatever else (never tried but asked many times) ..... you don't necessarily get to pick your girl.

Good way to kill a few hours but never asked for any extras...too many other alternatives.[/QUOTE]


Traveler,

You are right about Friends. They also have one about a block from Nana Plaza. I got the hair cut, foot massage, and oil massage. The oil massage included a bj and hj finish. I'm sure fs would have been available for a price.

The hair cut was done by one girl and the rest by a 2nd girl upstairs. The irony, is that the girl doing the hair cut is the one I would have wanted upstairs!

Still a good experience.

AT2

tried [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s (between soi 6 & 8) on a lazy afternoon only to find a guy sitting at the bar who grew up only 200 miles of me in the us. he now lives 6 months a year in bkk offered these monger suggestions:

o utopia. best upscale ladies (5000b). many former/current models. located 10 min from suk on 2nd floor.

o darling's. best medium price sauna experience (2500b) at soi 12

o ta wan dang. locals restaurant with german-thai food, live stage show (sorry las vegas style, not monger style), in-house brewry. on rama 3 a 10 min taxi from suk. took up his suggestion to take a beautiful lady along. i agree with others that treating a lady like a gf does have its benefits, especially if you want to repeat with this lady.

Well guys, thanks for your advise,

ArchieLeach, of course I know I know many places, but due to my english level and due to many posts saying that some forum newbies are. "boring" I just wanted to be quick to go directly to the subject (wanted to find out were the kind of salon (I put in quotes) were able to find, I addition to "smile" and "friends" that I already know, (Duniawala, Traveler1234, NicFrenchy thank you for your comments, if I find something funny or interesting I will post it), I can add "hair design" in soi 11/1 but all of these are very basic and easy to find.

Mick Licker, I know it's an unusual p4p service, but as I said in ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=592238&postcount=3332[/url])

I know all these regular locations mak mak, I can stop looking for this 2 in 1 service but I wanted to try the kind of thong lor salon: I put in quote (can find the original link of that post that's why I copied & pasted the text) just wanna try a new experiment, you see?

So if somebody have some address I will try and report (wanna sacrify myself for the forum, LOL)

By the way I will be back again tomorrow in BKK for few weeks,

Take care

Darling has a sauna. Don't think so. But hey, who knows...

Utopia, anyone knows the website address?

JB

[QUOTE=Westsider]Darling's. Best medium price sauna experience (2500b) at Soi 12 [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]Darling has a sauna. Don't think so. But hey, who knows...

Utopia, anyone knows the website address?

JB[/QUOTE]No website. No sauna. But sauna experience, LOL. And also rats, as I know from my thai girlfriend, who worked there for some months. And papasans, who make ONLY recommandations for girls, who give them money.

So better make your own choice!

[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]Darling has a sauna. Don't think so. But hey, who knows...

Utopia, anyone knows the website address?

JB[/QUOTE]
Utopia has a website but its Thai Language.
[url]http://www.utopiabkk.com/[/url]
There are other English Web pages refering to Utopia but I think rules may prohibit me from quoting them (competitors to ISG).
Try this:
[url]http://www.nightlife.thaigirlbride-thaiwomanwife.com/bangkok-soapy-massage-1-asoke-rama9.html[/url]

Then click on the Utopia button.

Thanks for the URL. Mind you, no detailed girl pics and as far I can see, no rates. Damn:-)

JB


[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Utopia has a website but its Thai Language.
[url]http://www.utopiabkk.com/[/url]
There are other English Web pages refering to Utopia but I think rules may prohibit me from quoting them (competitors to ISG).
Try this:
[url]http://www.nightlife.thaigirlbride-thaiwomanwife.com/bangkok-soapy-massage-1-asoke-rama9.html[/url]

Then click on the Utopia button.[/QUOTE]

I haven't heard Camfrog mentioned here yet, but I've found it's a great way to chat with and watch girls from Thailand, the Philippines, China and Japan on their webcams. In fact, there are so many Thai girls on there, they've had to establish their own webcam server. lol! And amazingly, I haven't come across any pro webcam sex girls yet either. Some get naked, some just dance around and tease and some just sit there. It's a free download from the website of the same name and you don't have to have a webcam yourself, although it obviously helps in getting the girls to talk to you, cam to cam. Beware of the fat pasty white bitches on the North America server, although the most naked-getting Thais and Pinoys frequent there too in search of "foreign talent." :-)

I've lined up several possibilities for my next trip to Bangkok so we'll see how it goes.

The program is free to download and sign up but you can only watch one cam at a time with the free registration. You CAN, however, pay for a more powerful Camfrog program that allows you to watch as many cams as you want simultaneously. I haven't done that yet...still having quite enough fun one cam at at time at this point.

Anybody else using camfrog?

Yesterday night I came back from Phnom Penh, went to Beergarden Soi7 around 0:30 just to find out they’re closing already 1:00am. Headed then to the Thermae to find out they’re closing already 1:30am. That’s one hour earlier than just one week ago. Someone else have some similar bad experiences in BKK recently?

After spending at least 3 months a year the last 5 years in BKK, it seems to me that BKK serves only as Hub to get to other Asian destinations in the future.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]
Anybody else using camfrog?[/QUOTE]

I gave it a try, but couldn't get any of the many Thai girls to talk right away. Thanks for the heads up on it though. It looks like it might have some potential, just have to get comfortable with how it works.

[QUOTE=Jethro 69]Yesterday night I came back from Phnom Penh, went to Beergarden Soi7 around 0:30 just to find out they’re closing already 1:00am. Headed then to the Thermae to find out they’re closing already 1:30am. That’s one hour earlier than just one week ago. Someone else have some similar bad experiences in BKK recently?

After spending at least 3 months a year the last 5 years in BKK, it seems to me that BKK serves only as Hub to get to other Asian destinations in the future.[/QUOTE]

To me, this is a good thing. It just means that the ladies become available without a barfine in the Nana parking lot a half hour to an hour earlier. Frankly, I never understood the advantage of having clubs stay open past 2 or 3 AM. At 3 AM, I want to already be in my bed shagging my companion for the evening.

[QUOTE=Thor93]I gave it a try, but couldn't get any of the many Thai girls to talk right away. Thanks for the heads up on it though. It looks like it might have some potential, just have to get comfortable with how it works.[/QUOTE]

No worries...good luck with it. It does take a bit of time but the obvious advantage is you get to see the girl live instead of just a picture. There's definitely potential...I've got two really good looking 21 and 24 yos lined up for my trip to Bangers in a few weeks.

Chok dee! :-)

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]No worries...good luck with it. It does take a bit of time but the obvious advantage is you get to see the girl live instead of just a picture. There's definitely potential...I've got two really good looking 21 and 24 yos lined up for my trip to Bangers in a few weeks.

Chok dee! :-)[/QUOTE]

Since I already have long term TGF, I probably should not bother with looking at the Thai girls. The last time I messed around on the internet with Thai girls, I ended up in deep trouble with the TGF. But sitting here at home, it does get boring at times and that site is a good way to kill a lot of time.

Just be careful though, my experience is that many non-working girls who use the internet to snag a farang will end up much more expensive than any P4P girl, both financially and emotionally. Remember you can't pay them to leave and most of them are there to find someone who won't leave them.

I saw that B/G for a few days each time, during my 2 trips to BKK, this year. She said that she was new (SC hostess; the type that try to get customers inside the bar) to the trade and really seemed like she was. She spoke only a few words of English and did not have the usual routine.

The first time that I barfined her, we went to my hotel and, as the kissing, caressing got pretty hot, we missed the condom step. "Studip!": Yes, I know.

And more stupid is the fact that we did not use a condom for any of the numerous following sessions. We kept saying that we had to use one, the next time around, but! She always stayed overnight in my room.

I set up an email address for her and we communicated on a regular basis. I intercepted a few "neutral" emails to customers, but just found one announcing to a Japanese guy that she was pregnant from him. According to the email, as she was not feeling well she went to the Doctor, and asked the happy father to be what she should do.

If a friend of mine had done what I did, I would really get on his case and tell him of how irresponsible that was to do.

Lucky that she did not try to pin this on me (I think that, at this point of her career, she is still honest), but we will see what comes next, as the guy did not respond, (at least, by email).

Abortion is illegal in Thailand, but do you know if it is commonly practised?

I know that many girls are pushed by their family to get kids, so they can get a regular income for the kid's maintenance, back home, but I do not think that it would be the case with her family. Her mother works and she has 2 sisters that are not in the trade; none is aware of her activity.

[QUOTE=Thor93]Since I already have long term TGF, I probably should not bother with looking at the Thai girls. The last time I messed around on the internet with Thai girls, I ended up in deep trouble with the TGF. But sitting here at home, it does get boring at times and that site is a good way to kill a lot of time.

Just be careful though, my experience is that many non-working girls who use the internet to snag a farang will end up much more expensive than any P4P girl, both financially and emotionally. Remember you can't pay them to leave and most of them are there to find someone who won't leave them.[/QUOTE]

You butterfly, you! ;-) I think you're right...it's like the actor Charlie Sheen said about his use of hookers... "I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave after we're done and not come back." A girlfriend is much more expensive in the long run, for sure. Just depends on what you're looking for, I guess.

[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]Thanks for the URL. Mind you, no detailed girl pics and as far I can see, no rates. Damn:-)

JB[/QUOTE]
Some girl pics but not good enough to actually choose one.
Expect a steep Farang Surcharge for westerners these days (perhaps 1000 Baht more than Thai price). So the girls really need to be spectacular to be worth it, and perhaps some are.

Yup, thats what I figured. I remember some time ago, when exploring BKK MP's some did not accept non-thai's (or at a surcharge). Interesting experience to be rejected due to ethnic roots.


[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Some girl pics but not good enough to actually choose one.
Expect a steep Farang Surcharge for westerners these days (perhaps 1000 Baht more than Thai price). So the girls really need to be spectacular to be worth it, and perhaps some are.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Visitusa]...
I set up an email address for her and we communicated on a regular basis. I intercepted a few "neutral" emails to customers, but just found one announcing to a Japanese guy that she was pregnant from him. According to the email, as she was not feeling well she went to the Doctor, and asked the happy father to be what she should do.
...
[/QUOTE]Visitusa,

My recommendation would be NOT to get involved in that game. The Japanese guy is most likely expected to have some money, so he is contacted first.

If she will later find out that most likely YOU are the father (of the most likely not existing future baby) ignore the E-Mails and move on.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Visitusa]I set up an email address for her and we communicated on a regular basis. I intercepted a few "neutral" emails to customers, but just found one announcing to a Japanese guy that she was pregnant from him. According to the email, as she was not feeling well she went to the Doctor, and asked the happy father to be what she should do.

If a friend of mine had done what I did, I would really get on his case and tell him of how irresponsible that was to do.

Lucky that she did not try to pin this on me (I think that, at this point of her career, she is still honest), but we will see what comes next, as the guy did not respond, (at least, by email).

Abortion is illegal in Thailand, but do you know if it is commonly practised?

I know that many girls are pushed by their family to get kids, so they can get a regular income for the kid's maintenance, back home, but I do not think that it would be the case with her family. Her mother works and she has 2 sisters that are not in the trade; none is aware of her activity.[/QUOTE]

She could also just be working a scam. Years ago I had messed around with a freelancer who worked Spasso's. I was only with her overnight twice and both times we were so drunk, nothing really happened. I know that is hard to believe but she always was asking for too much money and I would put her off. And then at the end of the evening when we were both stinking drunk, she offered to go with me just to avoid having to go home. And the two times this happened we basically just passed out once we got to the room. Hard to believe but true. Maybe that is why I don't drink so much anymore.

I did trade emails with her though and always thought about trying to really make something happen. Anyway, I get this email from a guy. He said she had sent him an email saying she was pregnant and needed money for an abortion. He said he knew he could not have gotten her pregnant, because he had had a vasectomy. He had a hacker friend get into her email and found out she had sent the same email to 12 other guys. So he copied her entire email address list and sent a warning letter to everyone on it.

I guess since I never got her email telling me I was a father, I really did pass out on the bed with her, not once, but twice. Really a very poor performance on my part.

I actually talked to her about this on a subsequent trip. She claimed she was not really pregnant and she never wrote the emails. I tend to think she did and just got caught. This girl was very smart and also very high end. Never underestimate what a smart TG is capable of.

this was my last lay after two weeks in asia. here is a sex story with info sprinkled in:

ended up on soi cowboy. soi means street. walked in approximately every other go go bar on the strip. time was about 11:30 pm (closing time is 2 am sharp). the girls in each bar on soi cowboy wear number tags on their outfit as they dance. bars are themed and different ambiances. outfits vary from no bottom and stars covering nip to thong bottom and topless (must be a ban on total nude) and in between. aggressive hostesses (very thailand) also dressed in (different) uniforms. some smile and joke. they do not bother me.

worth noting is bacarat bar near the end on the left. nice set up. two stacked dancing floors and the floor is glass in between so you can look up skirts from downstairs. upstairs topless, downstairs dance uniforms. i was joking around, in a good mood for a last night before 18 hours of in air flight time.

saw many bangable babes (lots of 6's) at least 4 very tasty (there must be about 400 working girls within the quarter mile.) i made eye contact with a certain number 19 at one bar in the beginning, then a 29 at another (sharkeys bar on the left). i made it back to sharkeys bar for 29 and ordered my water.

i confirmed the procedure. exit fine of 500 (15 usd). my babe gai did not want a drink. some guy bought her a tequila shot – i could tell she did not like it. i sensed she was a showy dancer (good girl inside). i was hoping for dirty girl, but i knew not. i knew "likes to dance more than likes to screw" but. yummy.

she remembered me from the first pass. unfortunately not true love, but good enough.

gai is 5'2 in high heels. 88 pounds. little piece of thai ass.

i did not talk price with her, as is my way if they do not bring it up. as my new friend in cambodia rob noted, that is not always the best way to do it, especially if you are green (you know who you are).

about prices. girls on the street between na na and cowboy (soi 3 – about soi 21) cost 1, 000 (30 usd) short time (but several girls said no to me and wanted 1, 500 baht short time. which i would not pay, so they would not go). ladyboys ask the same prices. i never negotiate long time (a whole shenanigan on its own. one day if i am properly budgeted, i may negotiate long time and just cut 'em lose early, and see how they deal with the trapped (no immediate exit after load blown) angle).

prices are even higher on soi cowboy. i guess you could work it for less if you have time, but after the fine, it is between you and the girl. earlier at dinner, i spoke to a tourist who told me the scene. he had a bit of overpay about himself that he admitted too. he pays what the girls want 2, 000 (60 usd) for short time. he does not like to hassle or haggle.

gai is the classic shy good girl (who has ink and is on the pole. whatever, they are all over asia) *****.

very beautiful (from a northeast province) and a great smile, but low self-esteem issues "i am not beautiful" rap. smokin' body. hard. not too marked. classic girl for hire/american tourist picture perfect photo couple we made as we strolled down soi cowboy for the short taxi ride to my hotel the ruamchitt plaza & hotel near soi 15. [url]http://www.asiatravel.com/ruamchitt/index.html[/url]. it is walking distance, but not with gai in those high heels she broke out when she changed to civies. gai speaks some english. let's say a 4-5. enough to get into a conversation and when we got to something good, she lost the words.

with gai i knew it was all about breaking barriers. how to turn her on within minutes of meeting when she knows i am long gone forever in hours (bla bla bla). a struggle for french kissing, fingers inside, ass play. all battled for and achieved (she did not like assplay at all. surprise). great ass lickie.

sometimes everything is a fun struggle, and is why i take viagra.

i prefer to walk into the room with a tasty girl put her legs up and peel panties or face down on the bed and pull skirt and panties down. tough sometimes. gai is using the shower excuse (very big in asia). clean as a whistle but needs to shower. she is begging me. i am playing hardball. on the bed i get the titties out and go for the suck. get her motor running and she gets scared. happened 4 or 5 times. barriers. i did eat her out pre shower while she was standing on the bathroom floor, her foot on the bowl and then she blew me bare while sitting on the lid. very average bbbj. poor girl needs to relax. she said she liked it.

we settled on showering together. back to the bed, i ate her pussy and ass, she blew me, we 69ed with her on top (mmm and nice view (gai did not bother me about the lights at least.). she did not 69 for long. surprise not.

i talked to her about coming and masturbation and clients. anything to gain knowledge to get her wetter. tough nut.

i gloved up lambskin and jammed her. that is the bottom line for some of the barrier girls. you can get away with good tongue and finger stuff if they are getting it good. i watch the premature ejaculation. that ends the struggle every time. i put her through the positions, battling the whole time. i asked her why she was making a face when she loved it, and she said it hurt a little, but i did not believe her. after lots of schtupp, i asked her to get on top and she made such a face that i burst out laughing. i had to give her the pass.

the best jam on her was on her back with her legs held straight up so she could not push away. i tried to get her to hold her legs on her own in that position so my hands would be free, but she wimped out.

i blew a load with her on her back, i sprayed her hair (i do not do that on purpose), boobs, belly (sooo flat and hard) pubes and **** lips. she was exhausted and ready to get out. she did not come close to coming. pobrecita: (i made ready 1, 500 while she was showering. she did count it without a word, just a nice thank you. goodbye was me grinning and a smiling let me out of here gai. fun hour.

photos were taken at the beginning. she was not into photos and thought she looked ugly. the pics do not do her justice. no nudes. no way, i did not even ask. the sex always must take priority over the photos.

the soi cowboy strip reminded me of angeles city philippines main strip. i prefer angeles, as there is no huge city i. e. bangkok surrounding the strip, also, there are more bars (maybe three times as many) on the angeles strip (say 20-30 on soi cowboy and 60 or so on the angeles strip. in angeles there was more rotation of girls and just more pussy density, although there are obviously many thousands of hos in bangkok within 5 square miles.

[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

Heh guys,

First off let me say this is an excellent forum gives very good insights into mongering in BKK, much better than if you were just researching the net for places to go! Have read through nearly all the reports so am not gonna bore you guys with newbie questions! Well my flight to BKK is booked and will be landing in 2 weeks. Wanted to find out if any of you guys have come across any indian women in phurat? Have heard indian pussy is available here and much cheaper than somewhere like Mumbai. Can anyone give any insight? As have searched through the forum but no mention! Also planning on doing a detour from BKK for a couple of days, which is better Pattaya or phukhet for mongering at this time of year?

Thanks guys look foward to your responses.

Jay

[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]Yup, thats what I figured. I remember some time ago, when exploring BKK MP's some did not accept non-thai's (or at a surcharge). Interesting experience to be rejected due to ethnic roots.[/QUOTE]
The surcharge is basically a bigger dick charge but I doubt there is a discount if you happen to have a small one.
But its true that Thai girls are more likely to temporarily get put out of action by Farangs

I had a circumstance a couple of years ago where a girl that i'd known in Singapore over a period of 2 years, and had visited in Bangkok (so knew her as well as you can know a hooker).

Some a-hole got hold of her password to email, and sent a series of emails out telling all her contacts that she was HIV positive, and that we should get tested.

This same guy had already been identified to me earlier as a "problem customer", so i knew not to take any notice. My point is, don't take emails from the girls on face value. Just as it is with the girls themselves,so with their emails: you can never really know whats going on.

Ozirob

[QUOTE=Giotto]Visitusa,

My recommendation would be NOT to get involved in that game. The Japanese guy is most likely expected to have some money, so he is contacted first.

If she will later find out that most likely YOU are the father (of the most likely not existing future baby) ignore the E-Mails and move on.

Giotto[/QUOTE]I was always in a suite (upgrade) of one of the best hotel in BKK and compensated her well, so I do not believe that this was actually the reason.

[QUOTE=Visitusa]Abortion is illegal in Thailand[/QUOTE]So is prostitution

[QUOTE=Visitusa]but do you know if it is commonly practised?[/QUOTE]Of course it is practised, but usually a lot of the girls keep the childs and don't go through abortion.

Bomb explodes in downtown Bangkok
Blast wounds one; police, bomb squads investigating

BANGKOK: -- A bomb exploded near in downtown Bangkok on Saturday, wounding one person, Thai police said.

The bomb was planted in a side street of the Thai capital, a police spokesman said.

The slightly wounded person was a 22-year-old man.

Police and bomb squads rushed to the scene to investigate the attack and authorities sealed off the area to vehicles and public.

"We cannot speculate about the culprit (behind the attack) for the time being," Bangkok's police superintendent told reporters.

Thailand has been rocked by both political instability following a military coup last September which ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and a bloody Muslim insurgency in its southernmost provinces.

SO WHY IS THE BAHT SO STRONG?

I've been wondering that question myself ever since I got back from Thailand 5 months ago & hope 2 go there in 12 days.

Once again the pieces of crap of this world-muslim want 2 disrupt the order of things by THEIR means-terrorist actions/bombings the laws regarding foreign ownership & investment+political unrest+muslim insurgency should = a weakening bhat not the recent strength that has taken place it might not happen tomorrow or next week when I am there-2 bad, but there will come a time very soon where a combination of the above negativity surround Thailand will ruin the economy & recent prosperity of Thailand & the bhat will plummet as well as high unemployment leading 2 more supply of women into the business which should lower prices.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]The surcharge is basically a bigger dick charge but I doubt there is a discount if you happen to have a small one.
But its true that Thai girls are more likely to temporarily get put out of action by Farangs[/QUOTE]

Its not only dick size, Mick, its duration of intercourse. Farangs are not only bigger they have a reputation for having sex for a long time - anything over a few minutes.

[QUOTE=Opebo]Farangs are not only bigger they have a reputation for having sex for a long time - [b]anything over a few minutes.[/b][/QUOTE]Are you for real? Is that what the Thais last? That's not what my ex-TG girlfriend said. She said her Thai Boyfriend lasted quite some time. She agreed that farangs were bigger though.

[QUOTE=Opebo]Its not only dick size, Mick, its duration of intercourse. Farangs are not only bigger they have a reputation for having sex for a long time - anything over a few minutes.[/QUOTE]

Opebo,

It's actually the "If I get this sucker to believe Farangs have bigger dicks and last longer, I can milk him for 500 to 1,000 baht more!" stereotype. LOL! Seriously, have you ever thought for a moment, that it's because Farangs are supposed to have more money? Hence the higher charge? These woman have babies bigger than your dick and they survive just fine.

They milk your ego and then your wallet.

AT2

this was such a good report that i excerpted it from the honolulu travel plans thread on the usa sex guide. go there to see the entire report including getting a passport in hawaii and flying from hawaii to bangkok.

i really have to get to bangkok. a taxi driver in talinn, estonia told me thailand was the best place in the world to get women for sex.

[quote=asiatraveler2]...the hotels will cost between $50 and $150 (good to great) and $300 if you want to live it up in a high rollers type suite!

currency:
the currency is the baht. 1,000 baht is about $25 us, but it bounces around a lot. you can and will get laid for $25 to $75, and many of them will be all nighters, with the ever so blissful morning wakeup bj. of course, ymmv.

what to do:
in bangkok, i guess it depends on your tastes, but here are some suggestions:

soapies:
definitely recommend poseidon and/or copacabana. top of the line, nice selection and sideline girls. they have the classic fish bowl set up, with 30-50 girls. in the good old days, it was a hundred. think rush hour 2, but better! with the sideline girls you can drink and get to know them and maybe find some chemistry. colonze 2 has a smaller selection, but is less than 2,000 baht.

[url]http://www.poseidon2000.com/en/home/home.html[/url]
[url]http://www.caesarsentertainment.com/[/url]
[url]http://geocities.com/colonze2/ok.html[/url]
[url]http://www.utopiabkk.com/models.html[/url]

take the subway and save some aggravation from the traffic. others in the area include emmanuel and cesaers. catherine and colonze on rama ix, cp2 on sri ayudhya road. plaza entertainment on petchaburi road is ok, but cupidy next door is considered a ripoff. taxi drivers get a kickback. most places are 1,700 - 2,700 baht, and higher for the sideline girls and high end girls. price range depends on the size and quality of the establishment. tips range from 200-500 baht norm, although i have seen higher numbers mentioned.

massage: 24 hour: sabai sabai across from the ambassador hotel, for 24 hour massage with extra's. incall or outcall. all the girls i met offer extras. in house hj only and takeout many offer fs. it's on the lane behind the 7-11, so you can't see it from the main drag. i believe that's soi 11. the prices are 600-900 baht depending on time. the girls ask about 500 baht for the hj and 1,000-1,500 for fs. pricey, but it is a 24/7 option. mixed reviews, but i have never had a problem there.

[url]http://www.sabaisabaimassage.com/p4.html[/url]

oily massage: there's tulip near the thonglor bts. there are several options on their menu, including fs. angel massage on soi 22 & 26 is also very good. nice selection of girls and lotion, oil or thai massage options. as with most all bkk massage places, extra's are available.

nep & soi cowboy bars: nep angel witch and rainbow bars, soi cowboy hit long gun, baccara, etc. i also spent an afternoon once at one of the smaller bars at the end. it was raining and i ran in to stay dry. i bought the girls drinks and ended up buying rounds for several girls. very similar to what happens in ac/phils. as with all bkk bars, you pay the bar fine and work the tip out with the girl.

beer garden and pool bars: the famous bier garten or beer garden is found on soi 7. easy place to pickup free lancers in the afternoon. there's gullivers on soi 5 and the hillary bars i and ii on soi 4. too many others to mention.

soi 33 artists bars, livinstones & massage parlors: soi 33 has both the artists bars and some very good massage places. the artists bars are named after famous artists and are more upscale. there are some great looking woman. livingstones has parties in the evenings around the pool bar & pool area. the owner (giotto) contributes a lot of posts, so info is easy to find. giotto is friendly and helpful.

soi 33 teen massage has some fans. small rooms are the downside, but a nice selection of girls. i hear there are larger rooms available on the 1st floor. massage is around 900-1,200 baht. fs is on the menu, but for around 1,500 baht extra. akane is another soi 33 mp. they use the gel from japan as a lubricant for the massage in the groin area and for the hj. fs is probably not available. this place is hard to find the first time. if you spot a "peep inn" sign, look under the garage area and you will see it about 50 feet in. of the two, i would recommend akane. they also have a chitlom branch. you will see a lot of japanese nationals at akane. there are other massage places in addition to the two mentioned, including angels and tulip.

[url]http://angelsoi26.kt.fc2.com/english01.html[/url]

down time: during the day, hit the emporium shopping mall. nice place, excellent eating spots, and you can catch a movie. the movies are usually in english with thai subtitles, it's cheap and best of all it's cool and you can recharge. the seats are very comfortable as well. siam square has another good shopping center. non shopping includes some of the bars with pool tables or sports bars. there's always golf if you are into it. of course there's temples galore, grand palace, and other touristy things.

in the evening, if you like singing, you can hit one of the karaoke places and have some girls join you. after there's always the take out option.

barbershops & foot massage places: friends massage near nana for a nice pampering session. options are haircut, shampoo, pedicure, foot massage, oil massage. extra's are on the table. they open early and it's a good way to start the day. get creative and suggest something off the menu and they may oblige! lot's of other similar places, so don't limit yourself to friends. most options range from 250-600 baht.

j-bars: there are quite a few bars catering to japanese only. they can almost be as selective as some of the real japan bars! lol! got turned away at a couple. in most, though, i was able to get in. don't recall the names off hand, but they are all over the place. very easy to spot.

soi 22: sazanka massage has been well reviewed in the massage thread and comes highly recommended. it is a unique experience, with a salt body scrub, massage and a very unique hj at the end.

thermae: the place is a long time bkk institution that has changed over time. it was called the star wars bar, because of the mix of characters and nationalities. it's been years since i have gone there, but it seems there's a full range of 2's-9's and ages 20's-40's. all free lancers.

night clubs: spasso at the grand hyatt. nice selection of freelancers and non-working girls. riva's at sheraton grande and cm2 in the basement of the novotel at siam square are also very good.

other: of course there's the only in bkk stuff like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s soi 8 bj bar and eden club for the infamous threesome. there's also patpong with the bars, shows and night market. thaniya plaza for electronics and the j-bar and massage scene catering to japanese clientele.

10 days is more than enough for a first visit. the heat and pollution may get to you a bit. drink bottled water not tap. you may get the runs, since you never traveled internationally. one or two trips to either thailand or the pi will take care of that. after that, your system will kick ass! you may be getting laid 2-5 times a day, so 10 days is a lot, unless you pace yourself or are superman.

there's no difference going solo or with someone. either way, you are going to want your own room, so the expenses are the same. the plus of going with someone is the conversation. thai girls speak some english, but it's not their strong suit, so you do miss some good conversation during meals. having said that, on your own, you get to do what you want and when you want to. you will be with girls constantly, so will you miss your buddy?

by the way, once you get your passport, monger heaven will open up to you. asia is where it's at! i hope this helps.

happy hunting!

at2[/quote]

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Opebo,

It's actually the "If I get this sucker to believe Farangs have bigger dicks and last longer, I can milk him for 500 to 1,000 baht more!" stereotype. LOL! Seriously, have you ever thought for a moment, that it's because Farangs are supposed to have more money? Hence the higher charge? These woman have babies bigger than your dick and they survive just fine.

They milk your ego and then your wallet.

AT2[/QUOTE]

Very good points, AT2, but have you ever read my reports? My price range is usually 300-500 baht all in!

Anyway, you know stereotypes - never always true, but always mostly true.

Nothing like getting straight to the point!

Am in Bangkok and Pattaya for only a few days would appriciate any leads on girls who take it in all directions without too much fuss Its not the kind of thing I like to negotiate beforehand and don, t have too much time to waste fishing around.

Regards,

Mr Cabbage

Jayk007,

I'd say Pattaya is better for pure mongering, but Phuket's better for pure tourism.




Member #3200,

Easy boy, easy. I'm sympathetic to your passion, but let's not start a flame war. There's nothing to be gained down that road, and I don't think Jackson would appreciate it. But your sentiments are well-taken.



Double Nickel,

If Thailand's not the absolute #1 place for action, it can't be far behind. Estonia wasn't a bad experience BTW, the women are smokin' HOT aren't they. I found myself just taking pictures of random girls in the town square and on the street, they were so beautiful. (I don't suppose you ate at a restaurant called Troika did you?)

Track Cabbage,

If you just want a sure things into the third hole, in Bangkok go to Soi 7/1 off Sukhumvit Eden Club. If you just want a sure thing into the third hole, in Pattaya go near the end of Soi Diana toward LK Metro.. Hell club!

Good luck,
LBM

It's denial really. Many Bangkok Thais are really second generation country folk, with that hidden fears apply. Fear of foreigners in particular. Very village this is.

Racism is far more common that most of us realize. In Thailand many ultra conservative elements have a hand at things. Don't think has anything to do with dick size.

Anyway. Thai guys are very suave. Watch how they chat up girls. Farangs can learn a trick or 2.

JB

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Are you for real? Is that what the Thais last? That's not what my ex-TG girlfriend said. She said her Thai Boyfriend lasted quite some time. She agreed that farangs were bigger though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Opebo]Very good points, AT2, but have you ever read my reports? My price range is usually 300-500 baht all in!

Anyway, you know stereotypes - never always true, but always mostly true.[/QUOTE]
Opebo, maybe many read your reports. For those who don't know, you should fairly say that for the price you fuck you accept the ugliest crap on 2 legs running around, who I wouldn't touch even if I got played for. But everybody its favorite that’s why the market offers all, the budget, the value and the luxury offer. But thanks for the gymnastics (shaking heads) you provide us almost each evening.

Regards.
Brain666

PS: you know that this is no offense and I admit that I also enjoy some of the discussions between you and some long time established real Bangkok experts.

[QUOTE=Track Cabbage]
Am in Bangkok and Pattaya for only a few days would appriciate any leads on girls who take it in all directions without too much fuss Its not the kind of thing I like to negotiate beforehand and don, t have too much time to waste fishing around.

Regards,

Mr Cabbage[/QUOTE]

As noted by an earlier poster, anal action is something of a specialty at the Eden club in BKK and the Hell Club in Pattaya. No negotiation is needed. All the ladies who stand on the left side of the line dividing the line up (yellow in Eden, striped yellow-black in Hell Club) do anal. It is just point and dick.

If you aren't familiar with these two establishments, do a forum search. Plenty of detailed info is available.

Evil

[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]Thai guys are very suave. Watch how they chat up girls. Farangs can learn a trick or 2.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Yeah, sure. Then watch them come home drunk and beat the shit out their girl. Or get them Pregnant and throw them out (or leave).

Learn From Thai men? that's the joke of the Century.

Also a Specialty at TULIP (sukhumvit- BTS Thong Lo).

Aviva Massage Soi 8
Orient Massage Soi 24

Go on their website, they have some girls marked as "anal ok", you can book them in advance.

But I have to agree nothing Beats EDEN... take 2 girls out of the Left of the Yellow line and go on a 90mn Anal Rampage LOL all for 5,000 tip and Drinks included ;)

Hello guys,

Does anyone knows a bar in BKK with dancing Russian girls? I know that these girls are not prostitutes (supposed not! ) but sometimes you get the chance to seduce one and you can take her out (not for free but it's OK).

They are usualy gorgeous and this is what I want.

I went to CM2 last time and I only saw very ordinary girls that don't turn me on.

If anyone can help me finding the high class Russians I would really appreciate.

Thanks

Right now $1000 = approx 34500B so 100B = $3.20 (the old $25/1000B was based on the 40:1 rate and it's 34.5:1 right now)

NicFrenchy

I was referring to the approach, not what happens in Thai marriages or relationships in general.

Thai guys are very sweet with girls. I watch these guys in my office. Very smooth, unlike most of felong guys I know.

For example watch the stunners these guys pull out of the Emporium at shift closure. You can see them driving off on the back on motorcycles.

Where felongs have to pay top coin to get laid, Thai guys are compensate by just being nice. Case in point, many sex workers do support their Thai boyfriends. They may tell you that Thai guys are lousy, yet truth is that your money flows in their pocket.

Higher up in society Thai girls do really stick with Thai guys. No chance for Felongs, and if only for short period of times. Again Thai's win as they are simply sweeter with the girls. Of course cultural parallels and language certainly are the main reason for same race marriages.

Trust me, I think Thai guys are all lazy and spoiled. I rather hire Thai women anytime. But I do give credit to their technique when it comes to chatting up girls.

JB



[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Hahaha. Yeah, sure. Then watch them come home drunk and beat the shit out their girl. Or get them Pregnant and throw them out (or leave).

Learn From Thai men? that's the joke of the Century.[/QUOTE]

As of 8th May 2007:-

THB 1000 equals (rounded up):-

USD 30.44 (30.44)
EUR 22.70 (43.90)
GPB 15.27 (64.00)
AUD 36.76 (27.00)
HKD 238.0 (04.15)

THB 1000 is approximately one whole serving of pussy and blow job*.

This is brought as a community service to make transborder cost-of-pussy easy to understand. I am suprised Blackerry do not have an auto-update of spot prices for pussy.

* This depends on long time or short time and varies with girl's prettiness and time of day (eg closing time is much cheaper). Buying for several days lowers the average cost.

My experience is that two girls for full on lesbian action and wake up BJ is the best value, and on a short trip is the best value. I usually get a BJ in a limo to the airport with some chablis, then wave goodbye to the smiling driver and girl before checking in. Thai airways should put a few bar girls in the fisrt class cabin (and an executive cabin) rather than discreet HJ system that presently exists.

This is not as easy as you might think, and I am offering some experience. Firstly, get a cheap Nokia VIBRATING phone. Set the alarm 40 minutes before you have to get up, and set your own alarm for the later time.

METHOD #1:-

The girl wears the phone that discreetly wakes her, but not you. Go to bed naked. If two girls, one starts on the balls and perineum slightly before the other girl sucks.

Correctly done, you wake up dreamily and thinking "this is nice" and then realize you have your knob in a pretty girl's mouth. Great way to start every day, and it's when the diurnal pattern of testosterone is at it peak. I love the warm pillow and nice feeling when you wake up, and then blow and feel marvellous. Then have a nice breakfast and coffee.

Done incorrectly and you get rudely awoken and it spoils what should be a normal experience.

METHOD #2:-

Same as above but have get a nice coffee and green tea. She has the green tea to warm up her mouth, then when you wake up happily the other girl hands you a cup of coffee giggling whilst her friend makes muffled groans.


Be fair: have the girls take turns, and if you fuck one, then you must do the other to prevent jealousy. Good manners are the hallmark of a gentleman.

JB,

Not to clog the Bangkok Reports Thread, I replied to you in the "Living in Thailand" Thread

NF

[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus]This is not as easy as you might think, and I am offering some experience. Firstly, get a cheap Nokia VIBRATING phone. Set the alarm 40 minutes before you have to get up, and set your own alarm for the later time.

METHOD #1:-

The girl wears the phone that discreetly wakes her, but not you. Go to bed naked. If two girls, one starts on the balls and perineum slightly before the other girl sucks.

Correctly done, you wake up dreamily and thinking "this is nice" and then realize you have your knob in a pretty girl's mouth. Great way to start every day, and it's when the diurnal pattern of testosterone is at it peak. I love the warm pillow and nice feeling when you wake up, and then blow and feel marvellous. Then have a nice breakfast and coffee.

Done incorrectly and you get rudely awoken and it spoils what should be a normal experience.

METHOD #2:-

Same as above but have get a nice coffee and green tea. She has the green tea to warm up her mouth, then when you wake up happily the other girl hands you a cup of coffee giggling whilst her friend makes muffled groans.


Be fair: have the girls take turns, and if you fuck one, then you must do the other to prevent jealousy. Good manners are the hallmark of a gentleman.[/QUOTE]Have always wanted to try that. A couple of good ideas.

Have you tried this yourself?

Are the women receptive to do such a thing????

The rainy season has just started in Bangkok. There are a lot less farangs around than usual. At least that is my impression.

I got to my hotel around 8 PM. I always stay at the Sheraton on Sukhumvit which has very comfortable rooms but is expensive. It also has a convenient lower level entrance. Unfortunately, it is a bit busy, so if you want to take someone with you a little early, you may not be alone in the elevator, meaning you need to be able to stand the people who are very obviously not looking at your girl. The hotel used to have a rather famous nightclub with good live band music but excessively expensive drinks. They still have the club, but no live music anylonger. And whereas the place used to be loaded with gorgeous working girls, they seem to have kept the excessively expensive drink only.

Anyway, I made my first stop at Beergarten Soi 7. Big disappointment. I usually have quite a good time there chatting to the freelancers and occasionally taking one out. Last night there were however very few girls around, and them not my style either. Maybe the rest has gone home for the rainy season?

So I decided to check out a girlie bar on nana, although I stopped doing that a while ago (you know, the girls tend to dance without much inspiration, sit with you for a second and gulp down their drink). Interestingly enough, there were few farangs and I was welcomed as a hero in the first level bar I visited. Also, there were some really good looking girls around. I quickly picked one and she sat with me for most of an hour with just one drink. Could have taken her out for 600 BHT barfine, but declined as I found her boring (consider me mad but I want a girl that talks to me). Anyway, I also wanted to give Eden a try at last. I have been to Bangkok many times, but never visited Eden before. And now I have to be boring, as I can only confirm what other people has said: this is probably the best place in Bangkok. I would almost compare it to the termas in Rio, but I find these still a bit more to my taste. Eden is a little smaller than I had expected it to be (and certainly a lot smaller than the termas mentioned). When you enter it looks like an ordinary bar, not very well organised. The girls are there, but no one comes up to you or anything. You have to walk up to the bar yourself. The French owner is indeed a very nice guy who puts you at your ease at once. I asked to have the menu explained although he is obviously aware that his place is famous now. There were a couple of Japanese guys drinking and obviously assessing whether they would go for it or not, but I declined that part and a lineup was called. At 10 PM there were not that many girls and I didn't see any that I would call stunning. Still there was one who gave me a lovely smile and had a nice body enough (I would give her a 6, but people on this board have called me unusually picky). I let her pick her friend and first thought that was a mistake, but later on it showed that I was the one who was mistaken. The girls took me upstairs through a small corridor and an even smaller elevator to a room of about 3 by 3 with mirrors everywhere. My only observation about the quality of the room is that it could do with more color. The one I selected first gave her name as Apple. They also gave me their Thai names which sounded like Lat Tee and Lat Wee, but I am very bad with names.

Anyway, Apple started to clean me in the shower and boy I have never felt cleaner. That is one of the things about this place: the girls are unbelievably clean and that gives you a very comfortable feeling in Bangkok. The best proof that you are as safe as you possibly can with them is that both girls claim to have been working at Eden for 7 years and that they never have known anything going wrong with anyone (of course Thai girls are great liers, but still). They said that even when they burn the inside of their mouth (with food or so) they have to stop working. They are tested for HIV and Syphilis every month and have the certificates to prove it. And they are regularly tested for other diseases.

It was a great experience. They were both very professional, good humoured, very eager to please. The "friend" I thought I was wrong about proved to be the better fuck in the end.

They also put on a lesbian show, although that doesn't do much for me. I tipped them 500 BHT to share between them, but reading other members' posts I may have been stingy.

Bottom line: if you are a bit worried about safe sex in Thailand (and you probably should), and you want to have a good time with real professionals, go to Eden. You will not regret it.

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I have an option 2 stay at a place on soi 77 off of sukhumvit

I have always stayed in the lower numbers-soi 4-22, can anyone tell me if there's any place for fun in the higher numbers or do I have 2 bust my ass in a taxi or BTS down to the lower numbers for my entertainment purposes.

Is there anyone going 2 Pattaya on may 19th from Bangkok, perferably mid morning before noon & would like 2 share a taxi

The same is said for any1 returning 2 BKK from Pattaya mid morning of the 26th I will be arriving in BKK late night on the 18th, hope to hear a reply soon.

Thank you.

Good review.

Thank you for posting it.

The Old Sheraton Bar was "Rivas" (which I really liked) but they renovated into this new Place "Barsu" ([url]http://www.barsubangkok.com/[/url]) which I don't like.

Also, your comment about BG7, it really depends on the time of day and Day of the month.

Usually the best days are monthend because a lot of regular office girls go there to make a few extra thousands (Rent, Loans...)

[QUOTE=Member #3200]I have an option 2 stay at a place on soi 77 off of sukhumvit

I have always stayed in the lower numbers-soi 4-22, can anyone tell me if there's any place for fun in the higher numbers or do I have 2 bust my ass in a taxi or BTS down to the lower numbers for my entertainment purposes.[/QUOTE]Member #3200,

LOL!

Taxi or BTS --> Ass --> Lower Sukhumvit = Entertainment.


Giotto

I was in Bangkok last week for a brief visit. Of course the arrival time was very late in the evening, and the trip really took it out of me. I visited all the regular sppots, but found nothing that caught my attention. After returning to my hotel (the Westin on Sukumvit), I found OGOTO Massage Bankok.

I ordered the Fantasy Body Course, which is a 2 hour massage that included full service, after a body to body rub, and one of the most relaxing massages I have had in years! A great altenative to the massage parlors and the girl was magnificent! Her name is "Naree", and was probably the best GFE I have had in an age. Total damage was 2, 600 Baht plus 200 Baht for the outcall. The phone number is 02-636-3040. Before I left I tried them again, this time with agirl named Jun. Not as good as Naree, but still way above average.

I will definitely use OGOTO again on my next trip to Bangkok. OGOTO does have a web site.

[QUOTE=Fredo24]...The best proof that you are as safe as you possibly can with them is that both girls claim to have been working at Eden for 7 years and that they never have known anything going wrong with anyone (of course Thai girls are great liers, but still). They said that even when they burn the inside of their mouth (with food or so) they have to stop working. They are tested for HIV and Syphilis every month and have the certificates to prove it. And they are regularly tested for other diseases.

Bottom line: if you are a bit worried about safe sex in Thailand (and you probably should), and you want to have a good time with real professionals, go to Eden. You will not regret it.
[/QUOTE]

Actually, Fredo, I used to bareback girls at Eden, though that was a few years ago in more prosperous days.

Whether it is still or generally possible to do that I do not know, but at the time it was very easy for me. I have gone back since and many of the girls refuse it, and besides the place is quite expensive, so I never go nowadays.

[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]NicFrenchy

I was referring to the approach, not what happens in Thai marriages or relationships in general.

Thai guys are very sweet with girls. I watch these guys in my office. Very smooth, unlike most of felong guys I know.

For example watch the stunners these guys pull out of the Emporium at shift closure. You can see them driving off on the back on motorcycles.

Where felongs have to pay top coin to get laid, Thai guys are compensate by just being nice. Case in point, many sex workers do support their Thai boyfriends. They may tell you that Thai guys are lousy, yet truth is that your money flows in their pocket.

Higher up in society Thai girls do really stick with Thai guys. No chance for Felongs, and if only for short period of times. Again Thai's win as they are simply sweeter with the girls. Of course cultural parallels and language certainly are the main reason for same race marriages.

Trust me, I think Thai guys are all lazy and spoiled. I rather hire Thai women anytime. But I do give credit to their technique when it comes to chatting up girls.

JB[/QUOTE]

Most Thai dudes are unemployed so the pooying is earning all the jack in the sack and getting kissed and licked by the farhang while she hands over all the jack to her poochai like a ho to a pimp. Thai foreplay is "wake up, bitz" a little diddle and a quick bone. If she is knobbing the farhang the Thai guy will make her polish his knob too while telling her what a ho she is. Watch the Thai Soaps. A girl is getting smacked around in every episode. I hate to say it but those women thrive on abuse. The minute you show your soft underside to them they will gut you. Many USAF guy lost stripes in Khorat during the Viet Nam war for hooking up with those insidius little critters, only to bring them back to the USA for them to run off with some guy from their province once he gets to California.

Fredo... I hate to say it, but 7 years equals about 5000 times full service (at least). I think she got more then a sore mouth over the years.


[QUOTE=Fredo24]The rainy season has just started in Bangkok. There are a lot less farangs around than usual. At least that is my impression.

I got to my hotel around 8 PM. I always stay at the Sheraton on Sukhumvit which has very comfortable rooms but is expensive. It also has a convenient lower level entrance. Unfortunately, it is a bit busy, so if you want to take someone with you a little early, you may not be alone in the elevator, meaning you need to be able to stand the people who are very obviously not looking at your girl. The hotel used to have a rather famous nightclub with good live band music but excessively expensive drinks. They still have the club, but no live music anylonger. And whereas the place used to be loaded with gorgeous working girls, they seem to have kept the excessively expensive drink only.

Anyway, I made my first stop at Beergarten Soi 7. Big disappointment. I usually have quite a good time there chatting to the freelancers and occasionally taking one out. Last night there were however very few girls around, and them not my style either. Maybe the rest has gone home for the rainy season?

So I decided to check out a girlie bar on nana, although I stopped doing that a while ago (you know, the girls tend to dance without much inspiration, sit with you for a second and gulp down their drink). Interestingly enough, there were few farangs and I was welcomed as a hero in the first level bar I visited. Also, there were some really good looking girls around. I quickly picked one and she sat with me for most of an hour with just one drink. Could have taken her out for 600 BHT barfine, but declined as I found her boring (consider me mad but I want a girl that talks to me). Anyway, I also wanted to give Eden a try at last. I have been to Bangkok many times, but never visited Eden before. And now I have to be boring, as I can only confirm what other people has said: this is probably the best place in Bangkok. I would almost compare it to the termas in Rio, but I find these still a bit more to my taste. Eden is a little smaller than I had expected it to be (and certainly a lot smaller than the termas mentioned). When you enter it looks like an ordinary bar, not very well organised. The girls are there, but no one comes up to you or anything. You have to walk up to the bar yourself. The French owner is indeed a very nice guy who puts you at your ease at once. I asked to have the menu explained although he is obviously aware that his place is famous now. There were a couple of Japanese guys drinking and obviously assessing whether they would go for it or not, but I declined that part and a lineup was called. At 10 PM there were not that many girls and I didn't see any that I would call stunning. Still there was one who gave me a lovely smile and had a nice body enough (I would give her a 6, but people on this board have called me unusually picky). I let her pick her friend and first thought that was a mistake, but later on it showed that I was the one who was mistaken. The girls took me upstairs through a small corridor and an even smaller elevator to a room of about 3 by 3 with mirrors everywhere. My only observation about the quality of the room is that it could do with more color. The one I selected first gave her name as Apple. They also gave me their Thai names which sounded like Lat Tee and Lat Wee, but I am very bad with names.

Anyway, Apple started to clean me in the shower and boy I have never felt cleaner. That is one of the things about this place: the girls are unbelievably clean and that gives you a very comfortable feeling in Bangkok. The best proof that you are as safe as you possibly can with them is that both girls claim to have been working at Eden for 7 years and that they never have known anything going wrong with anyone (of course Thai girls are great liers, but still). They said that even when they burn the inside of their mouth (with food or so) they have to stop working. They are tested for HIV and Syphilis every month and have the certificates to prove it. And they are regularly tested for other diseases.

It was a great experience. They were both very professional, good humoured, very eager to please. The "friend" I thought I was wrong about proved to be the better fuck in the end.

They also put on a lesbian show, although that doesn't do much for me. I tipped them 500 BHT to share between them, but reading other members' posts I may have been stingy.

Bottom line: if you are a bit worried about safe sex in Thailand (and you probably should), and you want to have a good time with real professionals, go to Eden. You will not regret it.

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[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]Most Thai dudes are unemployed so the pooying is earning all the jack in the sack and getting kissed and licked by the farhang while she hands over all the jack to her poochai like a ho to a pimp. Thai foreplay is "wake up, bitz" a little diddle and a quick bone. If she is knobbing the farhang the Thai guy will make her polish his knob too while telling her what a ho she is. Watch the Thai Soaps. A girl is getting smacked around in every episode. I hate to say it but those women thrive on abuse. The minute you show your soft underside to them they will gut you. Many USAF guy lost stripes in Khorat during the Viet Nam war for hooking up with those insidius little critters, only to bring them back to the USA for them to run off with some guy from their province once he gets to California.[/QUOTE]


There is some truth to what you write. However, I assume that you are referring to bar girls and only bar girls. Most good, honest, decent and respectible Thai girls would love to have a guy who is sensitive to their needs and doesn't treat them like shit.

I know Army guys from Udorn who married bar girls and took them back to "the land of the big P.X." only to have them screw around and then split with the first guy who could give them something a little better.

[QUOTE=Woodman]I found OGOTO Massage Bankok.

the girl was magnificent! Her name is "Naree", and was probably the best GFE I have had in an age.

I tried them again, this time with agirl named Jun. Not as good as Naree, but still way above average.[/QUOTE]Attached are pics of Naree and Jun.

Both are 24 Years old (although Naree looks like 34)

I too was in Korat during the VN experience and it was really tough to watch some of the younger guys get wrapped up in a pooying. Part of the problem was caused by the fact that these kids could not get laid in the States and the poying was the first piece of regular tail they had ever experienced. Add in a few BJ's and these guys thought they were heaven. They all wanted to take their little LBFM home.

A lot of us older guys spend many hours over many beers trying to convinve them that their Mom would not really be hapy with a daughter-in-law who did not like chairs and would "frog squat" in the corber for hours. The fact that this same girl would leave footprints on the toilet seat was something the guys often overlooked.
'bare

[QUOTE=LuvumBare]................ Mom would not really be hapy with a daughter-in-law who did not like chairs and would "frog squat" in the corber for hours. The fact that this same girl would leave footprints on the toilet seat was something the guys often overlooked.
'bare[/QUOTE]
EXCELLENT, 'bare.
I have found more than a few sets of foot prints on my toilet in the morning. Always brings a smile to my face, as I scratch my head.

Checking their website, it is very difficult to understand what the various services are? What is the standard total price for the massage and HJ/BJ/FS? If the pictures are accurate, they have some very nice looking young ladies.

[QUOTE=1Ball]EXCELLENT, 'bare.
I have found more than a few sets of foot prints on my toilet in the morning. Always brings a smile to my face, as I scratch my head.[/QUOTE]

I had the same problem. Fresh from the country - had never seen a farang toilet before. She actually broke the seat. Been with her 8 years now and we often laugh about it. She couldn't understand why the toilet was raised up so high, but couldn't bring herself to ask why!

[QUOTE=1Ball]EXCELLENT, 'bare.
I have found more than a few sets of foot prints on my toilet in the morning. Always brings a smile to my face, as I scratch my head.[/QUOTE]


Have you ever met one who squated and pissed in the corner of the room? Back in the 60's when GI's first came to Thailand this was common.

[QUOTE=Retired Army]Have you ever met one who squated and pissed in the corner of the room? Back in the 60's when GI's first came to Thailand this is common.[/QUOTE]

On my first trip to a moobahn in Khorat area in the early 80's, my then girlfriend walked with me into the woods near her home, armed with a job, (the tool for digging holes), dug 2 holes side by side, and then ordered me to crap with her!. Bloody jungle bunny!

[QUOTE=Bumholes1]On my first trip to a moobahn in Khorat area in the early 80's, my then girlfriend walked with me into the woods near her home, armed with a job, (the tool for digging holes), dug 2 holes side by side, and then ordered me to crap with her!. Bloody jungle bunny![/QUOTE]

We hired a servant girl back in the 70s. She was strong as an ox and her feet were bigger than mine. My wife had to drive her to the doctor one time. When she got inside our little volkswagon beetle instead of sitting on the front seat she squated on it. We taught her to sit correctly. She was good at her job, honest and fun to show her new things.

v

[QUOTE=LuvumBare]I too was in Korat during the VN experience and it was really tough to watch some of the younger guys get wrapped up in a pooying. Part of the problem was caused by the fact that these kids could not get laid in the States and the poying was the first piece of regular tail they had ever experienced. Add in a few BJ's and these guys thought they were heaven. They all wanted to take their little LBFM home.

A lot of us older guys spend many hours over many beers trying to convinve them that their Mom would not really be hapy with a daughter-in-law who did not like chairs and would "frog squat" in the corber for hours. The fact that this same girl would leave footprints on the toilet seat was something the guys often overlooked.
'bare[/QUOTE]Your post reminded me of a posting I saw recently at [url]www.walraven.org/vietnam/the_early_years.html[/url]
scroll down to the title Japan 1965. Jack Walraven joined the dutch navy in '62 and he describes losing his virginity to a bargirl in Japan; the bar scene and love hotel and the overall great experience he had. I am sure you guys have similar experiences to share. Sounds like a great time!

Play often and stay safe, HG

[QUOTE=Fredo24]
Anyway, Apple started to clean me in the shower and boy I have never felt cleaner. That is one of the things about this place: the girls are unbelievably clean and that gives you a very comfortable feeling in Bangkok. [/QUOTE]

I know Apple very well - she' a wonderful lady. What she doesn't know about giving a man pleasure, nobody does. She's also great to spend time with outside the sack. And it's definitely true the management at Eden takes sexual health very seriously. I once spent 10 days with an Eden lady (not Apple). One afternoon she had to go to the doctor for her weekly check-up -I sat in the reception room and waited for her. Without the "all-clear" certificate, she wouldn't be allowed to work at Eden. She said there were no exceptions. The one thing that's not avilable at Eden at any price is bareback intercourse. The girls themselves are very strict with each other on that point. They wouldn't tolerate a lady who took rissk that endangered everyone.

Evil

[QUOTE=Bumholes1]On my first trip to a moobahn in Khorat area in the early 80's, my then girlfriend walked with me into the woods near her home, armed with a job, (the tool for digging holes), dug 2 holes side by side, and then ordered me to crap with her!. Bloody jungle bunny![/QUOTE]

What did you do for toilet paper? Leaves? I thought they used it for fertilzer.

[quote=retired army]there is some truth to what you write. however, i assume that you are referring to bar girls and only bar girls. most good, honest, decent and respectible thai girls would love to have a guy who is sensitive to their needs and doesn't treat them like shit.

i know army guys from udorn who married bar girls and took them back to "the land of the big p.x." only to have them screw around and then split with the first guy who could give them something a little better.[/quote]

i don't know one happy story. i keep hearing about a "friend of a friend" that had it work out. my cousin married a once beautiful college educated filapina (similar) lives w/her & whole family he brought over and he swears he is happy. this dude is miserable. his wife got fat and he sleeps in the basement. the relationships that work are usually w/ some savvy and wealthy european that leaves her there and keeps everything on a rental basis. the minute you buy a house over there so she can "save face" she is in control. in very rare cases an upper class, a well educated pooying might marry an extremely handsome, farhang male equivalent and she gets farhangcized. you have to remember that we soul kiss and lick and their dudes don't. but family monetary demands and peer pressure almost always mess things up. they usually wait for the gringo (our laws totally favor the woman) to get overextended financially and to have their baby so they can be set for life. if one friend or family member comes over the relationship is over. they think their culture is at the center of the universe. i can't handle their mood swings. i know guys with dive shops and other businesses over there and their thai women are all extreme "nudnicks" (yiddish for nag). they are always testing you with ultimatums. one of my favorite passtimes is thowing them out of my hotel when i get an ultimatum. you have to remember that 90% of that country is made up sh*^ simple share cropper families, and the rest all think they are city slickers or working at posh resorts.

[quote=buledaddy]i don't know one happy story. i keep hearing about a "friend of a friend" that had it work out. my cousin married a once beautiful college educated filapina (similar) lives w/her & whole family he brought over and he swears he is happy. this dude is miserable. his wife got fat and he sleeps in the basement. the relationships that work are usually w/ some savvy and wealthy european that leaves her there and keeps everything on a rental basis. the minute you buy a house over there so she can "save face" she is in control. in very rare cases an upper class, a well educated pooying might marry an extremely handsome, farhang male equivalent and she gets farhangcized. you have to remember that we soul kiss and lick and their dudes don't. but family monetary demands and peer pressure almost always mess things up. they usually wait for the gringo (our laws totally favor the woman) to get overextended financially and to have their baby so they can be set for life. if one friend or family member comes over the relationship is over. they think their culture is at the center of the universe. i can't handle their mood swings. i know guys with dive shops and other businesses over there and their thai women are all extreme "nudnicks" (yiddish for nag). they are always testing you with ultimatums. one of my favorite passtimes is thowing them out of my hotel when i get an ultimatum. you have to remember that 90% of that country is made up sh*^ simple share cropper families, and the rest all think they are city slickers or working at posh resorts.[/quote]

i know many guys that are happily married to thai women, some for more than 30 years. somehow they have managed the family thing. my gf doesn't like her family and couldn't care less about them, so her support for them is minimal. she thinks they are lazy thai "rednecks" from the sticks. (i can't wait for her to meet my family in kentucky.) my gf is pretty westernized when she needs to be and traditional when it comes to taking care of me and ensuring i am happy.

the ones with the most successful thai marriages are farangs who were married to fat, bitchy ball-busting western women, like i was.

It would be nice to see more posts on BKK action (especially street action) off the beaten track (that being lower Sukhumwit, Patpong & the usual massage places). I tried browsing the thread for a while, but not much comes up.

Few questions:
---
* Are Indian girls available anywhere in BKK? I had one in Chiang Mai a while back...
* Are there any decent Russians/Farang girls around (for less than 3k baht ST?). Hanging around Sukhumwit Soi 3, all I saw were ugly girls well over their prime (I suspect from the 'stans -- no blue eyes anywhere).
* Where's the Thai action? Regular Thai guys must be getting it somewhere, and cheap, I suspect (I don't count Poseidon in this class).

Some locations:
---
* There's quite a bit of street action off Yaowarat (Chinatown). Easiest way to get into the area is to take MRT (Subway) to Hualamphong (main railway station), cross the klong to the west, and then take a small street to the left.
* Focus of the action is Yaowarat Soi 14 (+ small alleys near Texas massage).
* Charoen Krung Rd (parallel to Yaowarat to the north) has some action as well
* Going north from Yaowarat on MitrPan Rd, you'll reach a traffic circle. There are many ugly streetwalkers in the area (all spoke roads from the circle). I was quoted 300 baht, but they were all rather bad looking.
* Have seen a few street girls (not bad looking) near Lumphini MRT, but was with GF so didn't investigate.

Some of this was posted before, but I'm a fan of summaries, and not a look-it-up purist -- most info on the board is fairly repetitive anyway.

Mapping: [url]www.moffle.com[/url] has a good map of BKK (search for Yaowarat / zoom in on the area). Google maps itself now has great BKK coverage, but street names are in Thai.

Actual experience
---
In Yaowarat Soi 14, there are 3 Chinese girls in red pants (seen them on 3 occasions). I got the chubby, 32 y.o. one with big breasts. She spoke neither Thai nor English so we negotiated by writing down the number -- she quoted 1000 baht at first, but settled for 700. Went to a dirty ST room in a sub-soi (near Texas massage?) for 150 baht. She was OK and very compliant -- quick shower (which I had an impression she didn't really want) + CBJ + fairly vigorous FS. Honestly, I didn't have the balls to ask for BBBJ with this one. During doggy-style sex, she gargled and threw a huge spit across the room (nasty). Very different than a Thai, but I did enjoy the sheer nastiness of it, along with the big white tits, vigorous shag and pretty feet (why do almost all Thai girls have awful feet?). Living in BKK, it's nice to try something different once in a while (so I can appreciate the run-of-the-mill Thai BG more).

I got a question that may be tough. Which is better for a short stay in Thailand, Bangkok or Pattaya? I want to try all the hetrosexual delights that Thailand has to offer.

[QUOTE=Forced Hand]I got a question that may be tough. Which is better for a short stay in Thailand, Bangkok or Pattaya? I want to try all the hetrosexual delights that Thailand has to offer.[/QUOTE]

If you really can't do both, they are less than two hours apart, then I suggest Pattaya.
I used to love Bangkok but the girls have become far more business minded than their "sisters" in Pattaya, the Bangkok Go-Go girls are now quoting and getting 2000 baht short time with long time not even an option in some cases. In Pattaya the girls are less likely to discuss the financial side of the "date" and most would be happy with 1000 baht long time, there are always exceptions though so buyer beware.

[QUOTE=Forced Hand]I got a question that may be tough. Which is better for a short stay in Thailand, Bangkok or Pattaya? I want to try all the hetrosexual delights that Thailand has to offer.[/QUOTE]

If your flight arrives at a reasonable time, the trip to Pattaya from the airport is only around 90 minutes drive from Soyouwannaboom airport. So, it really is only an hour each way further than Sukhumvit.

That being said, I prefer Bangkok to Pattaya, but I am certainly in the minority, and the lower prices are surely in Pattaya.

I am new to this forum but not to Thailand! I have made several hobbying trips here in the past, and always was able to find girls willing to fuck bareback! However, I am returning after a long absence and would like to exchange any info with anyone who can give me some leads on specific girls who will fuck with no condom. I usually hobby in the Nana or Soi Cowboy areas. I have some pics and names of some awesome looking girls who I've gotten great service from in the past, but that was 1-3 years ago--maybe some are still there--I don't know. But if anybody has some current ones, with names and where to find them, I'd be very grateful--and of course I will share the pics and names that I have. Just send me a PM.

Thanks!

RA

Agree with this one. I never met any of the families of my Thai g/f's. Couldn't care less and made this clear to GF's. Why bother sitting with family with a stupid smile pretending to be a nice chap.

Cultural gap is simply to big. And quite frankly I find nothing charming about rural Thai culture. Some of my ex's were true city girls, meaning family had moved to BKK a generation earlier. Also here I was not keen to meet mon and dad.

I found that all my G/F's understood my point. Subsequently I never got bothered with family issues.

JB

[QUOTE=Retired Army]I know many guys that are happily married to Thai women, some for more than 30 years. Somehow they have managed the family thing. My GF doesn't like her family and couldn't care less about them, so her support for them is minimal. She thinks they are lazy Thai "rednecks" from the sticks. (I can't wait for her to meet my family in Kentucky.) My GF is pretty Westernized when she needs to be and traditional when it comes to taking care of me and ensuring I am happy.

The ones with the most successful Thai marriages are farangs who were married to fat, bitchy ball-busting western women, like I was.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]I don't know one happy story. I keep hearing about a "friend of a friend" that had it work out. [/QUOTE]

Blue Daddy,
With an attitude like that you won't ever have the option of a "happy story." Guys that sucessfully marry Thai women, not to mention bargirls, don't usually sit around and talk about it too much to tourists, or post on sex sites. Think about it; where's the motivation or interest.
Cheers,
Sean

I thing we better move that over to [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1036[/url].

Exactly the same issue, and where it rightly belongs: Thai Women - Opinions & Advice

Thanks. JB.

[QUOTE=Lover Of Fours]I am new to this forum but not to Thailand! I have made several hobbying trips here in the past, and always was able to find girls willing to fuck bareback! However, I am returning after a long absence and would like to exchange any info with anyone who can give me some leads on specific girls who will fuck with no condom. I usually hobby in the Nana or Soi Cowboy areas. I have some pics and names of some awesome looking girls who I've gotten great service from in the past, but that was 1-3 years ago--maybe some are still there--I don't know. But if anybody has some current ones, with names and where to find them, I'd be very grateful--and of course I will share the pics and names that I have. Just send me a PM.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

if you are going to bareback how about staying the hell out of Thailand. We don't need more diseases.

If barebacking is what you seek, how about a nice trip to Sub-Saharan Africa, I hear Uganda is nice this time of year.

[QUOTE=Forced Hand]I got a question that may be tough. Which is better for a short stay in Thailand, Bangkok or Pattaya? I want to try all the hetrosexual delights that Thailand has to offer.[/QUOTE]

They both offer different things. As a resident I prefer Bangkok, as a tourist with three days (and not knowing any better) I would probably go to Pattaya. In five years of living in Thailand I went to Pattaya twice and that was one time too many.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp]It would be nice to see more posts on BKK action (especially street action) off the beaten track (that being lower Sukhumwit, Patpong & the usual massage places). I tried browsing the thread for a while, but not much comes up.

Few questions:
---
* Are Indian girls available anywhere in BKK? I had one in Chiang Mai a while back...
Actual experience
---
In Yaowarat Soi 14, there are 3 Chinese girls in red pants (seen them on 3 occasions). I got the chubby, 32 y.o. one with big breasts. She spoke neither Thai nor English so we negotiated by writing down the number -- she quoted 1000 baht at first, but settled for 700. Went to a dirty ST room in a sub-soi (near Texas massage?) for 150 baht. She was OK and very compliant -- quick shower (which I had an impression she didn't really want) + CBJ + fairly vigorous FS. Honestly, I didn't have the balls to ask for BBBJ with this one. During doggy-style sex, she gargled and threw a huge spit across the room (nasty). Very different than a Thai, but I did enjoy the sheer nastiness of it, along with the big white tits, vigorous shag and pretty feet (why do almost all Thai girls have awful feet?). Living in BKK, it's nice to try something different once in a while (so I can appreciate the run-of-the-mill Thai BG more).[/QUOTE]Hi Croc,

1. There are a few Indian WGs in BKK. I have seen a couple of them on my visits, but never tried one. Most of the Indian girls(99.9%) that you find in BKK are tourists. Try your charms , may be you can bed one, some of them are quite happy to be with westerners. BUT my question is WHY you want Indian pussy in BKK when you have so much good stuff available. If you are really keen taste Indian pussy visit Bombay or New Delhi. Can be quite expensive when compared to LOS.

2. MY conclusion about feet (I could be wrong). The average BG that you pick up is from upcountry and has had a tough child hood and adolecent life. Most of the time she may not have been wearing any kind of shoe/ slippers and would have put in a few years on a farm. You can guess how her feet would be. LOL,

MagicM

[QUOTE=Lover Of Fours]I am new to this forum but not to Thailand! I have made several hobbying trips here in the past, and always was able to find girls willing to fuck bareback! However, I am returning after a long absence and would like to exchange any info with anyone who can give me some leads on specific girls who will fuck with no condom. I usually hobby in the Nana or Soi Cowboy areas. I have some pics and names of some awesome looking girls who I've gotten great service from in the past, but that was 1-3 years ago--maybe some are still there--I don't know. But if anybody has some current ones, with names and where to find them, I'd be very grateful--and of course I will share the pics and names that I have. Just send me a PM.

Thanks![/QUOTE]The ones you used to know 1-3 years ago are probably dead. And yes I'm serious.

[quote=buledaddy]i don't know one happy story. i keep hearing about a "friend of a friend" that had it work out. my cousin married a once beautiful college educated filapina (similar) lives w/her & whole family he brought over and he swears he is happy. this dude is miserable. his wife got fat and he sleeps in the basement. the relationships that work are usually w/ some savvy and wealthy european that leaves her there and keeps everything on a rental basis. the minute you buy a house over there so she can "save face" she is in control. in very rare cases an upper class, a well educated pooying might marry an extremely handsome, farhang male equivalent and she gets farhangcized. you have to remember that we soul kiss and lick and their dudes don't. but family monetary demands and peer pressure almost always mess things up. they usually wait for the gringo (our laws totally favor the woman) to get overextended financially and to have their baby so they can be set for life. if one friend or family member comes over the relationship is over. they think their culture is at the center of the universe. i can't handle their mood swings. i know guys with dive shops and other businesses over there and their thai women are all extreme "nudnicks" (yiddish for nag). they are always testing you with ultimatums. one of my favorite passtimes is thowing them out of my hotel when i get an ultimatum. you have to remember that 90% of that country is made up sh*^ simple share cropper families, and the rest all think they are city slickers or working at posh resorts.[/quote]

buledaddy,
i agree about every single word you wrote.
that's the reason why i never get involved with a thai girl and i never will.
just fuck them, more than one time if she worths the effort, and forget them.
there are so many around...

alex

[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]If you really can't do both, they are less than two hours apart, then I suggest Pattaya.
I used to love Bangkok but the girls have become far more business minded than their "sisters" in Pattaya, the Bangkok Go-Go girls are now quoting and getting 2000 baht short time with long time not even an option in some cases. In Pattaya the girls are less likely to discuss the financial side of the "date" and most would be happy with 1000 baht long time, there are always exceptions though so buyer beware.[/QUOTE]
Read my January report esp. re soi cowboy-long time was definitely off the menu
I would suggest Livingstones Lodge or a friendly massage parlour worker who slips you her phone number for a long term liason..

For those staying in or close to Bangkok on Wednesday, 16.05.2007:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=597371[/URL]

We started those Champagne Nights in January, and it has become a popular but classy event, a bit different from the usual bar parties of Bangkok's entertainment areas. Thai women obviously really like Champagne :) ...

For people who are not familiar with Soi 33 it might be an occasion to check the local hostess bars out. Recommended are The Office Bar, Monet and Renoir (later in the night), and of course our Sports Lounge.

For the future: We could also initiate something like a [b]round table[/b] for ISG members who are in town. The Champagne night could be the montly date of such an event, because it will always take place on weekdays. If somebody is interested in this idea - Giotto will be in the Sports Lounge on Wednesday to discuss that.


The Management
Livingstone's Lodge Co., Ltd.

[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp]* Going north from Yaowarat on MitrPan Rd, you'll reach a traffic circle. There are many ugly streetwalkers in the area (all spoke roads from the circle). I was quoted 300 baht, but they were all rather bad looking.
[/QUOTE]Maitri Chit (One of the streets off the traffic circle) -

Plenty of action in this street - from 250-400 baht, plus 70 for the room. Looks are pretty average, stretch marks etc - and the performance is hit and miss. It's all pretty basic, but for a change of scene and a bit of 'nasty' variety it's a bit of fun - and it's certainly cheap!

Just take an MRT to Hua Lamphong head over the klong and you're there

[QUOTE=Retired Army]if you are going to bareback how about staying the hell out of Thailand. We don't need more diseases.[/QUOTE]Excellent Answer. I agree 100% with this.

Love_of_Fours: Try Haiti or Somalia. You'll find that there is a stigma against condoms in those places. And since everyone is already infected in those places, there is really no need for them anymore.

Hi guys

Is there any place where you can find some Chinese ladies or mixed Thai Chinese in BKK?

Thx,

Crazy Rapha

[QUOTE=Alejandro66]BuleDaddy,
I agree about every single word you wrote.
That's the reason why I never get involved with a thai girl and I never will.
Just fuck them, more than one time if she worths the effort, and forget them.
There are so many around...

Alex[/QUOTE]

Need I say more?
Cheers,
Sean

[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]I don't know one happy story. I keep hearing about a "friend of a friend" that had it work out. My cousin married a once beautiful college educated Filapina (similar) lives w/her & whole family he brought over and he swears he is happy. This dude is miserable. His wife got fat and he sleeps in the basement. .[/QUOTE]


The you are hanging out with a rough bunch of blokes. First of all , anybody who marries a Flipper and doesn't think she is gonna get fat is an idiot to begin with. Flippers are the worst agers of SE Asia. Over 30 and the acceleration begins and catches up with the west rather quickly.

My friends (not friends of friends), and that is about 5 of them, are still married to their Thai birds, with the longest being 7 years now.

[QUOTE=Raphael Lovaa]Is there any place where you can find some Chinese ladies or mixed Thai Chinese in BKK?[/QUOTE]For Chinese, try Chinatown - Yaowarat Soi 14 and around (see my previous post a few days back for details). There are a few Chinese streetwalkers around there, but none especially young or pretty. Expect to pay 500-1000 ST. That's all I know -- you can try exploring the Yaowarat area more, and post back your findings :)

For Thai Chinese (or lookalike), I'd try some of the more upscale massage parlors (say, around HuaiKwang MRT) -- they have white and clean Thai girls. Expect to pay 2-4000 for 1-2h.

For me, Chinese girls are clearly better looking than Thai (and age better as well), but Thais are definitely more relaxed and fun to be around.

Unfortunately, in Thailand, most Thai Chinese is that most are upper class (or can at least be a mia-noi to a rich Thais), and therefore don't need this sort of work.

[QUOTE=Raphael Lovaa]Hi guys

Is there any place where you can find some Chinese ladies or mixed Thai Chinese in BKK?

Thx,

Crazy Rapha[/QUOTE]

I would probably start looking in Chinatown

Hi all, some notes from my usual trip to LOS, April 24 to May 8. Two nights in Bangkok. I will omit bars I did not like.

Patpong: each time I come I see more restaurants and fewer bars. Enough said. An old legend like Pink Panther renamed (Panther) and reshaped as a "normal" open bar. Camelot Castle still has some nice ladies. Everything else going downhill.
Nana: believe it or not, they close at 1 a.m. Yes. I was kicked out twice at 01h05m !! Rainbow 4 has many quality girls but this is what happened to us. We (2 good looking 40something) enter this bar at around 11 o'clock. A couple of ladies come and sit immediately on our laps. They are clearly high, drunk or both. They start the usual routine, touching, rubbing, ass-shaking. I do not like it this way so I stay still. Suddenly my girl stands up, goes to a farang, talks for a few seconds then grabs his beer and comes back sitting on my lap with the farang's beer in her hand. Farang looks no happy. I decide to leave the place to avoid problems. So beware: many girls, some very nice, but management is clearly out of control.

G-spot was better than usual, although average is still low compared to the past : but I found a real gem. Not perfect because she had a baby 8 months ago, but so warm and passionate I could hardly believe my luck. She fixed her eyes on me as soon as I entered the place but was too shy to approach me or smile. So I called her and she was just a great person and a great fuck. She told me the story of her young (20 y.) life, so many problems but such a positive attitude and love for life and for her daughter: a refreshing experience like the girls I met 15 years ago in Pattaya, happy, naive (but not stupid) and willing. Amazing Thailand.

Russian hookers (and kazakh and the likes) not anymore around Ambassador hotel, police regularly cleaning up the venue. They will not be missed.

One sad note: Hair Design in Sukhumvit soi 11/1 has been closed! One of the oldest barbers in town (at least 15 years!!) is out of business and I was one of their last customers on their last day. Shame, it was a great place with very friendly ladies.
Follows in the Pattaya section. Cheers!

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Nice insight. Thanks.

Is there anybody going & willing 2 share a taxi from BKK(lower sukhumvit) 2 Pattaya early-mid morning on the 19th of May, PM me if you are

The same is said for the return trip from Pattaya back 2 BKK on the 26th around the same time

Thank you & I hope 2 hear from you

Is the bus station off of Ekkami BTS station?

How much is cab fare from soi 7 2 bus station?

[QUOTE=Member #3200]How much is cab fare from soi 7 2 bus station?[/QUOTE]Its about 1 quid or 2 dollars! Jeeysus! Deal with it man!!!

i just returned to korea from a week in bangkok, may 12-18, 2007. my report follows.

hotel was the president park. very good hotel. completely guest friendly. taxis right outside the front door all day and night. starbucks across the street. price was about us$71 a night.

for my first night, i booked an escort from rendevous, and called them an hour before she was to arrive to provide my room number. name was thida. when she arrived, she was not as good looking as her photo on the web site, but i expected as much. thida was tiny...5'2" or so, and petite all over...just the way i like them. twenty-five years old. i'd rate her a solid 7. her english was poor, but we tried talking for a while anyway. soon she was massaging my shoulders and it didn't take long for me to hoist her onto my shoulder and move the action to the king size bed. she delivered everything her agency advertised including bbbj and cim. very sensual, very hot girl.

the next day, i went to leyana spa, a non-sensual massage place, to work out the kinks. had a milky salt scrub first, a head, shoulders & back massage, and finished up with a foot massage. as i was having the foot massage, my lower back started to tighten up, so the masseuse, air, gave me a nice introduction to traditional thai massage that really loosened me up.

the second night, i went to soi 33 to visit livingstone's sports bar. arrived around 7:30 and was the only man there with more than ten ladies. i took my time, played some pool, bought a few lady drinks, and narrowed my choice down to either oh or jang. oh was a hell of a good dancer and looked like she could really make a man happy (rating - 7), but i was intrigued by the dark and beautiful jang (rating - 8.5). twenty-six years old. mistake. she wasn't a starfish, but close. the worst part was that her cooze smelled really foul, which turned me off completely. we took a shower beforehand, and i watched her use a special cleanser on herself, but it was, nevertheless, putrid. i mentioned it to her and she re-washed herself, but the mood was ruined for me. jang was apologetic, and i was nice about it. paid her and sent her home.

the third night, i decided to try on soi cowboy for size. first, i stopped in the dutch pub on the corner for a nice big pint of heineken. then, i cruised up and down the street a few times trying to decide which place to enter. i peeked in a couple, and finally settled on shark. there were about a dozen girls dancing in each of two shifts, with more coming in all the time. at it's peak, there were 15 or more dancing. i grabbed a seat and took a look. there were some very nice looking girls. most about 7, plus a few 6's, 8's and 9's. a very pretty lady with very fair skin, a perfect, slender figure and chin length hair caught my eye. she was #91, name is dee. unlike most of the girls, she danced in rhythm to the music. when she sat down with me, she was bubbly and cute and a lot of fun, so i barfined her. she was a ball of energy and we had a ball together. took her back to the president park lt. her body was fantastic. she went the extra mile to make me "happy."

there was another dancer at shark i wanted to take with us but didn't...tall, with long, light brown hair...#64, i think. the only reason i didn't go back for her the next day was she appeared to be a little shy, which doesn't usually indicate a great performer. anyway, i decided that from now on, i'll look for girls that dance well. i think it means they're a little more upbeat and likely to give me what i'm looking for...performance. i also learned that price is *not* an indication of quality. after all, i paid the least for dee, and she was the best of the three. second report to follow when i feel like it. lol.

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[QUOTE=Visitusa]I saw that B/G for a few days each time, during my 2 trips to BKK, this year. She said that she was new (SC hostess; the type that try to get customers inside the bar) to the trade and really seemed like she was. She spoke only a few words of English and did not have the usual routine.

The first time that I barfined her, we went to my hotel and, as the kissing, caressing got pretty hot, we missed the condom step. "Studip!": Yes, I know.

And more stupid is the fact that we did not use a condom for any of the numerous following sessions. We kept saying that we had to use one, the next time around, but! She always stayed overnight in my room.

I set up an email address for her and we communicated on a regular basis. I intercepted a few "neutral" emails to customers, but just found one announcing to a Japanese guy that she was pregnant from him. According to the email, as she was not feeling well she went to the Doctor, and asked the happy father to be what she should do.

If a friend of mine had done what I did, I would really get on his case and tell him of how irresponsible that was to do.

Lucky that she did not try to pin this on me (I think that, at this point of her career, she is still honest), but we will see what comes next, as the guy did not respond, (at least, by email).

Abortion is illegal in Thailand, but do you know if it is commonly practised?

I know that many girls are pushed by their family to get kids, so they can get a regular income for the kid's maintenance, back home, but I do not think that it would be the case with her family. Her mother works and she has 2 sisters that are not in the trade; none is aware of her activity.[/QUOTE]I just came back from Bangkok and found out (and checked) that she was not the one that had sent that email; a friend of hers had used her computer and email address to send that unsigned email.

The friend got in touch with the guy, who helped her to resolve the problem.

Another friend of her told me the classic "you take care of her and she stops working". When I told her, she laughed.

I told her that she was young and should try to get a decent job. I said that I would help her she is makes that move and effort, but I am not sure that she has the will to go back to the real world with a tiny paycheck.

For now, she took a one month break and stays alternatively with her Sister and her Mom.

She does not have (yet) most of the bad habits of the bar girls and has frequent arguments with her roommate (a classic bar girl, who was her classmate) about her lazyness, money issues, etc.

What is your experience with girls who a had a short stint in the business and go back to a normal job ? Also, what kind a job are they usually able to do ?

Hi,

Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Unknown9398] ......


The second night, I went to Soi 33 to visit Livingstone's Sports Bar. Arrived around 7:30 and was the only man there with more than ten ladies. I took my time, played some pool, bought a few lady drinks, and narrowed my choice down to either Oh or Jang. Oh was a hell of a good dancer and looked like she could really make a man happy (rating - 7), but I was intrigued by the dark and beautiful Jang (rating - 8.5). Twenty-six years old. Mistake. She wasn't a starfish, but close. The worst part was that her cooze smelled really foul, which turned me off completely. We took a shower beforehand, and I watched her use a special cleanser on herself, but it was, nevertheless, putrid. I mentioned it to her and she re-washed herself, but the mood was ruined for me. Jang was apologetic, and I was nice about it. Paid her and sent her home.

...

[/QUOTE]

OOps, interesting. From name and your description I had Jang for 4 consecutive nights and my experience was completely different (still assuming we are talking about the same girl). In my case it was a top notch experience and I can’t complain any, but rather I was impressed about her.
Not sure what caused my experience to be so much different. In my case no special fluid was used (at least I didn’t notice it and also any smell- the pussy was delicious).
Based on my experience: My ‘style’ is to start relaxed without any hurry to put dick into pussy quickly and while I let her pay some attention to me first (which is the usual begin of purchased entertainment) in the following I then pay attention to the girl first – more or less play with her body and figure out her sensitive zones besides the primary breasts and pussy. With this paying attention to the unusual sensitive erotic zones (kind of body eating there) which probably not many customers ‘touch/ kiss’ I achieve great success with almost all girls I have, providing at the end a total GFE and get ‘serviced’ in return like the boyfriend they would like to marry. Depending on the girl, sometimes it takes her a second round to be ready to ‘put’ any business attitude aside and enjoy as woman.
Usually I should get paid for that, but I am compensated with a great attitude and performance as well.

The same in my case with Jang. After feeling completely relaxed in the room- she was already somehow relaxed and feeling comfortable during the pre talks in the Sports Lounge with was a key for me to barfine her as I felt we can come along well.- being triggered by my stimulation of her sensitive ‘non primary sexual’ parts she turned quickly into what I call ‘total Girlfriend Mode’ beyond the usual GFE.
She was enjoying herself (better: allowed herself to enjoy herself – giving up control about the customer and let me control) and skyrocketing first in cowboy style and then in other positions. She used my dick as a toy for her satisfaction and I supported her multiple comings. Unbelievable. This was one of the best girl reactions I had in my life and of course it is fun for you too. I delayed my coming, was much longer and stone hard as ‘my age and performance these days usually allows’ and had overall great fun.

Because of this perfect match I continued barfining her for the next days and we both had a great time. It was like a loving couple and a perfect GF/ BF relation in the beginning phase. I am sure that for her it was somehow a bit beyond a typical BG Customer relation and probably created some new ‘benchmark’ for herself.

So I hope that I didn’t ruin the atmosphere for some of you fellow mongers with that. However as I experience and a well known rule for many mongers:
The perfect match for me may not be the perfect match for you and the other way around.

In your case as you tell the smell of that fluid destroyed the atmoshere and I can imagine that for me this would have been a major turndown as well. To then come into good mute is difficult, also for the girl who is for sure also somehow anxious about it after your complain. Two such unsettled people supposed to have an intimate session, that just doesn't work out fine. So it was the right move to stop the session. Would have domne the same. But Shark girls finally 'compensated' you later. Good to read.

Regards

Brain666

Hi,

It's been a few years since my first visit to BKK. In anticipation for my return trip this year, I wanted to ask if anyone had any updates on the action at Riva's at the Sukhumvit Marriott.

Is the action and pickings at Riva's still exciting as it was 2 years ago?

And has anyone come across a mid-30's gal there named, I believe, Kong. Maybe I forgot the name entirely, but she spoke far better English than most girls at Riva's, she has a daughter, and lived in another country when she was married in the past.

[QUOTE=Jayk007]Hi,

Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?

Thanks[/QUOTE]£800 = 50,000 THB.

14 nights of Mongering @ 3,000 per night (Drinks, Barfine, ST/LT, Food for Tilac) = 45,000 thb (Rubbers, Lube...)

Hotel Room for 14 nights = 14,000
Food for yourself (assuming Cheap Thai Food) = 3,000 for 2 weeks
Gifts/Souvenirs = 5,000 THB

We're @ Roughly 70,000 THB (staying cheap) = £1,080

[QUOTE=Unknown9398]
Originally Posted by Unknown9398
......
The second night, I went to Soi 33 to visit Livingstone's Sports Bar. Arrived around 7:30 and was the only man there with more than ten ladies. I took my time, played some pool, bought a few lady drinks, and narrowed my choice down to either Oh or Jang. Oh was a hell of a good dancer and looked like she could really make a man happy (rating - 7), but I was intrigued by the dark and beautiful Jang (rating - 8.5). Twenty-six years old. Mistake. She wasn't a starfish, but close. The worst part was that her cooze smelled really foul, which turned me off completely. We took a shower beforehand, and I watched her use a special cleanser on herself, but it was, nevertheless, putrid. I mentioned it to her and she re-washed herself, but the mood was ruined for me. Jang was apologetic, and I was nice about it. Paid her and sent her home.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Brain666]
OOps, interesting. From name and your description I had Jang for 4 consecutive nights and my experience was completely different (still assuming we are talking about the same girl). In my case it was a top notch experience and I can’t complain any, but rather I was impressed about her.
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Regards

Brain666[/QUOTE]
This girl was one of the very best. Certainly no starfish with guys she likes. A very sweet persoanlity and a completely honest girl.

Unknown9398 must have got unlucky when her period just started unexpectedly.

I went with the girl every night for a week. She even gave me a free night early in the week with no strings attached.

Some guy will try to take her away from all this soon enough.
Giotto wishs that all of his Sports Bar girls were as good as her.

P.S. She, like other girls, uses Lactacyd special wash to protect against yeast and fungal infections. She was immaculately clean (and iI have a big nose which is very sensitive to odours).

[QUOTE=Mick Licker] This girl was one of the very best. Certainly no starfish with guys she likes. A very sweet persoanlity and a completely honest girl.

Unknown9398 must have got unlucky when her period just started unexpectedly.

I went with the girl every night for a week. She even gave me a free night early in the week with no strings attached.

Some guy will try to take her away from all this soon enough.
Giotto wishs that all of his Sports Bar girls were as good as her.

P.S. She, like other girls, uses Lactacyd special wash to protect against yeast and fungal infections. She was immaculately clean (and iI have a big nose which is very sensitive to odours).[/QUOTE]


As already said I also can underline ML's comments as well, especially the personality and the honest nature. I would even go so far that I could recommend her for beeing a good wife for partnertship/ marriage which I wouldn't typically say from a girl in this job. I guess someone will do it and I definitely whish her a good life, better then the one she had so far. She is worth it.

I would even betting with OTH (she is Isaan) that she is more worth and better then some of his high educated 'good' students/ girlfriends ;) with high confirdence to win the bet.

Enclosed are my reports from my stay in Livingstones where I gave her the name 'cuddle cat'.

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[post]592714[/post]

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Jayk007]Hi,

Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

It depends...
800 pounds in 14 days means a little less than 52.000 baht. So it's 3700 baht per day.
If you have to pay the hotel (let's say 700 baht per night) you have 3.000 baht per day.
Consider taxis in Bkk, trip to pattaya and back, some shopping -t-shirt at least- and eating ) you will have about 2.000 baht to spend for fun every day.
In my opinion that's not much.
You sould have double than that. So consider to bring about 300 punds more.

I hope this could help,

Alex

Unexpectedly back in BKK after 6 months only to find that I need to correct my last post (already! ). The constantly changing face of P4P in BKK, I suppose. So to now update my previous posts:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=492371&highlight=safari#post492371[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=537150&highlight=safari#post537150[/url]

Safari bar. Patpong: in the past this has been one of my my favourites but 6 months ago I had to accept that this was one of the slowest bars to be found. But while researching for this trip, a reliable site recommended Safari as the top bar in Patpong. So I had to go back. It was early in the evening and found myself the only punter in the bar. Settled in with a beer and noticed that the standard of girls in the row by the door was actually quite good. And then I was joined by Mew. It was all over, Rover. Mew is probably the most naturally beautiful girls I've ever seen. 24yo, tall (5'10), slim but not skinny, easily a perfect 10 but I'm happy to take a point off for two crooked teeth. English was pretty reasonably, and she was fun to be with. And no make-up needed to cover any imperfections. Oh to take her home! Tried for LT but the best offer I could get was 2hrs ST. We didn't even get to price because I don't do ST. If anyone knows who I'm talking about, I'd be interested in your opinion of her looks. It was my first stop for the night so I know I wasn't wearing beer goggles! Safari Bar is back on my list of haunts!

Apache. Soi Cowboy: Oh dear. Went back to see if a cutie from last visit still gyrated there but was sorely disappointed in all respects. There was one semi-cute girl in the herd who I tipped more out of pity than anything.

Siamese Twins. Just off Soi Cowboy: read a report that this bar was the scruffiest in the area and full of Isaan girls sharing a brain. But fun with some beauties. Went there to see for myself. All true. Even the beauties. Not a dance bar because there's no room but the girls are fun and it can be quite a good place to start or finish the evening. Visited a few times and never begrudged a penny I spent there. Probably the only bar where you'll find cleaning fluid on the shelf next to the scotch. One way to mix your drinks, I suppose.

Our Place. Soi Cowboy: Disappointed despite recommendations. Nothing pretty to be seen except one sexy little feline who jumped me as I was finishing my beer. Not enough for me to stick around for though.

Long Gun. Soi Cowboy: Always busy and ended up seated at the bar. I've worked a few bars in my time but all were bigger than a matchbox. Having said that, if you're interested in hygene, don't sit next to the bar. All will be revealed. They still put on good shows and the girls are generally pretty good, but I still rate Rawhide above Long Gun, only because you get Long Gun without the busy-ness.

Rawhide. Soi Cowboy: Unashamedly my favourite haunt although I was disappointed to find that both the Nymphette and Minx from a previous report had gone and that, to some extent, the standard of girls had dropped a little. Having said that, there's still quite a number of cuties. Rawhide at least try to put on a good show, but I really had to draw the line at the dance number in see-thru plastic rubbish bags. No matter how you try and say it, a plastic rubbish bag isn't sexy. Even after 10 beers. All that said, I hooked onto a tall and lithe cutie (Pim) and took her home a couple of times. 600 BF and 2500 LT. I won't pretend that there was anything special in bed. Lovely body, very small breasts (which I like) and a deliciously tight pussy. Great starfish. Still, she was great company. Affectionate, undemanding, GFE. Knew no English and would just twitter away in Thai like a cat mewing. To this day I have no idea what she was talking about!

Dollhouse. Soi Cowboy: On my last visit I met young Kaew and had kept in contact with her. She knew I was going to be in BKK and wanted to see me. I turned up at Dollhouse unexpectedly, settled myself in with a drink, searched the room for her and found her a few seats down from me. Moments later she was on me with the most passionate DFK ever! Welcome back, honey! She dumped her friend for the night and a short time later we were out the door and back to the hotel. In the hotel she was all over me and we shared some luxurious DFK. Then to the shower for plenty of soap, shared washing and a shared towel down after. And then to bed. The rest becomes something of a blur (or was that just my ass in the moonlight? ). I'd been awake for more than 24 hours having just got into BKK. But we managed a 6 pop night. As if my amazement wasn't enough, she said that 2 is usually enough for her. 1 at night and 1 in the morning. There was nothing out of the ordinary, but it was some of the wildest sex I'd ever had. Or so I thought. Had to work the next day so swung back by Dollhouse after 10pm to collect Kaew as promised. I was a little late and Kaew thought I wasn't coming so had hit the Thai whiskey which made for an interesting night. Headed back to the hotel again. I was tired coming off the back of a day's work and a 30 hour day before so was happy for a pop and sleep. She had other ideas. Firstly, a bath. Filled to the brim so that I'm sure the floor below was getting seepage. Fooled around in the bath for awhile and then to bed. Kaew's hotspot is her breasts. It only takes a lick and she's aroused; anything more and you'd better be prepared. First pop was pretty active and I was ready for sleep. Kaew wasn't going to stop there. Wrapped another condom over me and started riding me like a banshee, moaning and pressing her nipples in my mouth. She climbed off me and pressed her pussy against my mouth for DATY. Imagine her at the head of the bed, arms pressed against the wall as she grinds her shaved, wet pussy in my face while moaning loudly. And every position imaginable followed. I've never been treated to anything like it and to put this in context, the last time I met her I reported she was good for a GFE experience but nothing earthmoving. Sent Kaew on her way the next day and vowed to stay away from her for a few days while my cock straightened itself out. Which is where Pim from Rawhide came in useful! I met up with Kaew one more time and she told me that she'd had an offer from a "boyfriend" to move her off the circuit and into an apartment and that she was probably going to accept. But as she was still only thinking about it, it was still ok to get feral just one more time. And all on the house. Sorry guys, one hell of a curtain call and now she's out of the game.

I miss the LOS =: 0(

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In my normal state of regular insomnia, I get up at night when I cannot sleep, and I walk. It loosens stiff muscles and clears the mind. So I was wide awake at 2.30 am, in bed in the Nana hotel, with the gf. I decided to take a walk. Got dressed quietly, let myself out. My first impression was the Nana hotel car park. Although I had read mention of this many times on this forum, I was stunned by the number of girls. There must have been a hundred. All sizes and shapes. Far outnumbering the available men. Lots of final negotiations in train. I waked further along Soi 4, and was accosted by a number of lady boys. Must have been their beat.

Walked back to Sukhumvit, and then along Suk itself. There were a lot of women still looking for the final hook up. Huge number of opportunities.

There is a flourishing street restaurant between Sois 5 and 7, specializing in hot pot meals. All you would need to do is sit down, and they will come to you. Further along, about Soi 13 is another larger street restaurant, lots of couples, often guys with two or three girls at the table. As I walked, and explored the sois, there were lots of girls offering business. So even at 3.30, there is plenty on offer.

The surprising thing was that when I got back to the Nana car park at 3.30, the place was empty. Maybe the staff had pushed the girls out, maybe they had left of their own accord, all deals completed.

[QUOTE=Jayk007]Hi,

Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Without knowing your tastes and interests, I'm inclined to agree with Alex. £800 doesn't sound like it will be enough unless you plan to monger only every other day. This doesn't necessarily mean you have to bring more money with you. There are plenty of ATMs. Just have another £800 or so accessable in your account. You probably won't need all of it, but its good to have extra to cover unexpected expenses.

Cheers,

F2

[QUOTE=Jayk007]Hi,

Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

You should describe more of your tastes and interests.

Lets assume cheaper Pattaya, not the cheapest hotel, some quality in girls (not rock bottom type) then I would calculate:

Mongering: 1 LT/ day + 1 ST or Massage parlor or such, barfine, lady drinks.
3000-4000 Baht/ day as an average (about 2000 LT/ 1000 ST 1500 Massage, 600 barfine some lady drinks) -(4000 used for summary as you are here for mongering mainly)

Hotel: 1000-1500 / day (but also 700/ day is possible) (1200 baht used for summary)

Food, your drinks, some girl’s food: 1000-1500/ day (1200 used for summary)

Transportation: 200/ day + 1500 airport and back.

Using 13 Days for multiply = 87300 baht = 1355 GBP.

This should allow you reasonable quality in girls, accommodation and food.

Savings in girls cost: I would rather skip the ST session when you pick quality LLLT providers. Here it depends on your attitude. If you represent the gentle ones among the British visitors your LT mileage can go long ways and you save money when the girl is keen to stay until afternoon and likes you. However this depends on the girls variety you plan. More variety = more cost.

Regards

Brain666

PS: If you need rock bottom cost (absolute minimum), probably opebo may give you the lowest achievable, however with heavy compromises in quality required then.

My pleasure. By the way, I have read yesterday on another forum that Rainbow 4 in Nana (the bar where I had that strange experience) was supposed to be shut down by police on May 15th. Is anybody able to confirm that?

[QUOTE=Brain666]PS: If you need rock bottom cost (absolute minimum), probably opebo may give you the lowest achievable, however with heavy compromises in quality required then.[/QUOTE]

Actually there are no gaurantees that price correlates with 'quality'. Patience can yield quality just as well as throwing money around, and the careless monger can spend a great deal for quite poor quality.

As for the point in question - Brian is right that you should avoid Bangkok and stick to Pattaya. Not only is it cheaper but it is far more pleasant. In Pattaya a reasonable cost for a somewhat substandard guesthouse type room is 350-400 baht, while a quite nice room is 700-800.

I do not recommend long-time as the girls are tiresome after a couple of hours (who isn't, regardless of gender?). A short time will cost about 300-500 on the beach, with an extra 100-200 for short time room. I don't really recommend bringing girls back to one's own room. Short time on Soi Six will run about the same 700 baht, though sometimes one has to tip a bit for anal or bareback. For two per day figure 1,500 with odds and ends such as drinks. Food should be the cheapest - simply eat in small Thai restaurants, carefully avoiding any restaurants that contain farangs as they will be far worse than those patronized by locals, as well as much more likely to make you ill. Lastly, always rent a motorbike as there's nothing fun about trudging around.

Daily Budget:

Room - 700
Sex - 1,500
Food - 200
Bike - 100
Total - 2,500

So for 14 days, 35,000 baht. Add 1,000 on each end for transit, and just in case unexpecteds, and you get 37,000 baht. I think that is about 550 British pounds. So with your 800 baht budget you could drink a lot more, get a better bike, have more short times, or more threesomes.

Hi Guys,

Apologies, should have been more clearer. Will be staying in Bangkok for 6 nights and pattaya for 6 nights and then back to bkk for 1 night before flying home. Accomodation will be booked and paid for in advance so that will be coming out of my spending budget! will probably be looking to do one short time or massage parlour during the day and a long time in the evening as well as other touristy things and a bit of shopping. I also one try out 2 women long time once in bkk and once in pattaya. From your responses i guess £800 is not going to be enough. Any suggestions?? also i will be travelling in the last week of august and first week of september, whats the mongering scene like during august/september? is there still lots of women?

[QUOTE=Sake Lover]Hi,


Is the action and pickings at Riva's still exciting as it was 2 years ago?

[/QUOTE]

The action in Rivas's is second rate compared to Spaso's.

[QUOTE=Jayk007]Hi Guys,

From your responses i guess £800 is not going to be enough. Any suggestions?? also i will be travelling in the last week of august and first week of september, whats the mongering scene like during august/september? is there still lots of women?[/QUOTE]

In my opinion, £1600 will be more than enough for one short time/massage during the day, a LT during the evening and plenty left over for food/travel/incidental expenses, everyday for your entire trip. This assumes your tastes do not require absolute DDG model quality girls every night and your regular drink doesn't include large quantities of Old #7 Black Label or Don Julio Tequila Anejo.

Expect the asking price for LT to range from £31 for moderately attractive to £62 for model quality. What you actually pay will depend on your chemistry and your negotiating skills.

There are always women around. I was in LoS around July/August last year and the hunting was quite good. There's less competition since it's not the "high season" yet. The following reports describe how I experienced things during my visit:

Part 1:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=488232#post488232[/url]

Part 2:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=488546#post488546[/url]

Part 3:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=490984#post490984[/url]
Part 3 Addendum:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491340#post491340[/url]

Part 4:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491363#post491363[/url]

Part 5:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=497928#post497928[/url]

Part 5 has a list of my suggestions based on my experience/tastes/interests.

To add to that, I would comment that sex two/three times a day for 12 days straight can be pretty strenuous unless you have the lebido of a teenager or use some sort of "recreational pharmaceutical". You will probably have a day or two in there that you just want to rest alone and "recharge".

Cheers,

Fox Two

Orgy or Gangbang in BKK

Have been to BKK many times (see previous posts) and am coming again in June. Would like to participate in some orgy or gangbang action.

Does anyone know where this happens?

Does anyone want to set up a session/s?

PM me or answer in thread

Any other ideas for good times welcome.

LTB

[QUOTE=Long Time Boy]Orgy or Gangbang in BKK

Have been to BKK many times (see previous posts) and am coming again in June. Would like to participate in some orgy or gangbang action.

Does anyone know where this happens?

Does anyone want to set up a session/s?

PM me or answer in thread

Any other ideas for good times welcome.

LTB[/QUOTE]

My friend and I brought two back and we did them in the same bed back at the Hotel because the Eden girls tend to be very cool with the whole process and we all enjoyed watching each other. These girls told us that the rooms at Eden were better w/mirrors, toys etc., but we had a great time. I say that you get two and do them on the Eden premisis that you will be happy chappy. One will "rim" you while the other polishes the knob and they boink like bunnies. These girls are the ultimate pros. If they seem aloof and uninterested at the bar when you are scoping out who you want, you will find they are very talented when in the room and much more enthusiastic than the brightest eyed bushy tailed one from the Nana lot!

[QUOTE=Pulse]<cut>
Rawhide. Soi Cowboy: Unashamedly my favourite haunt although I was disappointed to find that both the Nymphette and Minx from a previous report had gone and that, to some extent, the standard of girls had dropped a little. Having said that, there's still quite a number of cuties. Rawhide at least try to put on a good show, but I really had to draw the line at the dance number in see-thru plastic rubbish bags. No matter how you try and say it, a plastic rubbish bag isn't sexy. Even after 10 beers. All that said, I hooked onto a tall and lithe cutie (Pim) and took her home a couple of times. 600 BF and 2500 LT. I won't pretend that there was anything special in bed. Lovely body, very small breasts (which I like) and a deliciously tight pussy. Great starfish. Still, she was great company. Affectionate, undemanding, GFE. Knew no English and would just twitter away in Thai like a cat mewing. To this day I have no idea what she was talking about!
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"Great starfish" means what? I thought "starfish" referred to nearly comatose girls during fucking.

[QUOTE=Irjle]My pleasure. By the way, I have read yesterday on another forum that Rainbow 4 in Nana (the bar where I had that strange experience) was supposed to be shut down by police on May 15th. Is anybody able to confirm that?[/QUOTE]Nah. I also go to that Forum (same name). This is pure Bullshit.

Maybe they had a Police Visit and the Police Threatened to close them down if they do not pay a Very large Fine.

If you were the RB4 owner, what would you do? Well, he will most likely pay the Fine because Closing RB4 for 60 days would be a bigger loss for him (in both terms of Money and Image)

;)

Do Not Rent a Motor Bike.

Use Baht Busses and you stay out of Hospital!

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]"Great starfish" means what? I thought "starfish" referred to nearly comatose girls during fucking.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Couldn't fault her on her delivery.

[QUOTE=Jayk007]Hi,

Visting Bangkok and Pattaya soon for 2 weeks in total what would be a reasonable amount of spending to bring bearing in mind i will be doing my fair share of mongering! will £800 be enough?

Thanks[/QUOTE]


I think so but don't change any money in England change it when you get to Thailand even the airport in Bangkok offers a good rate better than England

[QUOTE=Soi Song]Do Not Rent a Motor Bike.

Use Baht Busses and you stay out of Hospital![/QUOTE]

na this is bull-shit. I routinely rent the small Honda Waves 110 cc motorbikes when I want to get around. Just don't be stupid and drive while impaired and remember that they drive on the wrong side of the road in Thailand.

We've been going non stop for the most part had some reasonable success at BG, Aviva MP, & NEP in that order. Prices seem to be up whereas quality & quantity seem to be down, or maybe I' gotten jaded or have been very lucky on previoous visits. Rainbow has some nice looking action but at 2k st, 4k lt makes for a pricey shot which we haven't taken yet. Midday BG visit had limited appealing choices imho, 1500st. The few NEP gals we talked w/were 1500st & not many great lookers, hope Sunday may have been an off day @NEP & BG. Still would like to peruse Cowboy so if anyone has suggestions on that front we could skytrain over for an evening rendezvous. Also if anyone thinks the hostess bars are happening for farang that might be interesting. A semi early 8ish NEP session prior to Cowboy could also be fun. May try an afternoon MP vistit at Thonglor or Angel over by emporium.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]This girl was one of the very best. Certainly no starfish with guys she likes. A very sweet persoanlity and a completely honest girl.

Unknown9398 must have got unlucky when her period just started unexpectedly.

I went with the girl every night for a week. She even gave me a free night early in the week with no strings attached.

Some guy will try to take her away from all this soon enough.
Giotto wishs that all of his Sports Bar girls were as good as her.

P.S. She, like other girls, uses Lactacyd special wash to protect against yeast and fungal infections. She was immaculately clean (and iI have a big nose which is very sensitive to odours).[/QUOTE]I'm glad to hear that some of you had good experiences with her. She certainly is a beautiful girl. I tried to make her as comfortable as possible, but she did seem a bit shy towards me, so maybe maybe I barfined her on an off night.

[QUOTE=Retired Army]na this is bull-shit. I routinely rent the small Honda Waves 110 cc motorbikes when I want to get around. Just don't be stupid and drive while impaired and remember that they drive on the wrong side of the road in Thailand.[/QUOTE]What is the wrong side of the road? If you don't drive on the right side it could also be the left side, couldn't it? And yes, in Thailand they mostly speak the wrong language ???

"wrong" side is "left" for those of us accustomed to driving on the RIGHT. (Besides, it's a "play on words")

I wish the whole world would agree to drive on ONE SIDE (just pick one - whichewver doesn't MATTER)

Languages are another matter - there is no "wrong" language, it just isn't YOUR NATIVE SPEAKER LANGUAGE. Learn more - it's worth it in the end - I can do 4 "well" and 3 more "not so well". While one is at it, a bit of cultural understanding also helps tremendously

ATMs are the only way to go for BAHT - the "foreign" exchanges outside Thailand are RIP OFFS and charge about 10% MINIMUM. IF oyu MUST carry CASH, exchange it HERE (I'm in Thailand now for another week)

[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]My friend and I brought two back and we did them in the same bed back at the Hotel because the Eden girls tend to be very cool with the whole process and we all enjoyed watching each other. These girls told us that the rooms at Eden were better w/mirrors, toys etc., but we had a great time. I say that you get two and do them on the Eden premisis that you will be happy chappy. One will "rim" you while the other polishes the knob and they boink like bunnies. These girls are the ultimate pros. If they seem aloof and uninterested at the bar when you are scoping out who you want, you will find they are very talented when in the room and much more enthusiastic than the brightest eyed bushy tailed one from the Nana lot![/QUOTE]

Thanks for the tip. I have been to Eden many times and look forward to another trip down happiness lane. But I'd like to try something different. 3 or 4 guys and 6 or 8 women or perhaps just one or two women and multiple guys.

Anyone have any ideas?

LTB

[QUOTE=Retired Army]na this is bull-shit. I routinely rent the small Honda Waves 110 cc motorbikes when I want to get around. Just don't be stupid and drive while impaired and remember that they drive on the wrong side of the road in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Without getting into this petty debate, it would have been worth noting that the original post which led to this discussion, was requesting information about how far 800 British pounds would go. Therefore, in this case, he should have far less problems than those of you who dont know what a roundabout is!! :D
Sid

I was just in Bangkok for a few days and met up with a girl I email now and again at Angel Disco. She wanted to go with me for the evening and she's a hot freelancer so who am I to say no. We got back to the room and after a little while the clothes start coming off. She tells me she thinks I am a good man and wants to have a luk klung. I think that's what she said. Anyway, she wants me to stay with her during my trip and she doesn't want me to wear a condom because she wants to get pregnant. Though she is pretty hot, I can't bring myself to screw a bargirl without a condom. She wasn't very happy and tried throughout the night and the next morning to climb back on. I had to get out of there the next day.

[QUOTE=Aslan]I was just in Bangkok for a few days and met up with a girl I email now and again at Angel Disco. She wanted to go with me for the evening and she's a hot freelancer so who am I to say no. We got back to the room and after a little while the clothes start coming off. She tells me she thinks I am a good man and wants to have a luk klung. I think that's what she said. Anyway, she wants me to stay with her during my trip and she doesn't want me to wear a condom because she wants to get pregnant. Though she is pretty hot, I can't bring myself to screw a bargirl without a condom. She wasn't very happy and tried throughout the night and the next morning to climb back on. I had to get out of there the next day.[/QUOTE]

I don't mean to sound obtuse, but what's your point? Is there an observation there or a question, or both?

Please enlighten me about what you think, otherwise just state that you fucked a nice girl.

Energizer bunnies we 2. Much like day 1 but rather than hang at BG we took our TBFN after our morning ball & went to Gullivers for lunch & pool as I had heard good things. Food was good but for 4 wanting to shoot some pool together, not. If you're a good player you might like as winner stays loser pays a few cute girls but may not have served well as a pick up joint. After Gulliver's skytrain to MBK for bowling / getting drunker. Good fun, back to hotel, girls were amazingly comfortable getting naked together & even tho we have connecting rooms getting it on all in same was fun, friends room has 2 beds but what & where ever w/these 2. Didn't puh for an overnighter w/them as there are many gogos in the hood I wanted to expose my newbie friend to. So we closed down NEP, declined albiet reluctantly to barfine some delightful ladies. We mingled w/the masses as NEP flowed outbound then up & down lower suk for a smoothie &? Back to the Nana lot, my buddie was begining to fade & started talking stupid & claiming he'd go back alone, I wouldn't hear of it we saddled up & the then closed bar kitty corner nana enjoying our smoothies were approached by many scary but some decent girls. A super freak 26 yo, black father, wild hair tiny tight bod w/hard abs got my friends interest up I was convinced by 21 yo ms. Issaan 2529, that she was an adept smoker, & she was, & off we went. Friend & his TBFN are still sleeping, right thru be'fast. Today's objective is again to end up at Cowboy. Still trying to meet Belmont & exchange intel. Peace out.

Well Pete, I'm not trying to write the great American novel here so I pray that you forgive my wordiness. Perhaps someone out there is looking to impregnate a bargirl and if that were the case I might know just the one. Bringing two people together is a beautiful thing. You might say I'm providing a service here, Pete, with the brotherhood and happiness of all mankind in mind. Pm me Pete if you're interested.

Asian, I guess you didn't realize that this forum isn't actually a lot of people just talking, but we're all being directed on what and how to say it by PeteMCC. The plan is to eventually do it live on stage. So you have to try to understand, if Pete seems abrasive at times, its just because he cares so much that we do this right.

[QUOTE=Retired Army]na this is bull-shit. I routinely rent the small Honda Waves 110 cc motorbikes when I want to get around. Just don't be stupid and drive while impaired and remember that they drive on the wrong side of the road in Thailand.[/QUOTE]This is not bullshit. Driving any motor vehicle in an urban Thai setting is dangerous, esp. If you are used to driving defensively and sanely. Offensive driving is the way here. Good luck and wear a helmet if you must drive a moto.

Driving on the wrong side of the road means literally that. Thais are supposed to drive on the left, but many, many moto drivers drive on the right, going the wrong way against traffic, on the footpaths, without helmets, passing on blind curves, etc. It seems a rite of masculine affirmation for many youths to drive as badly and carelessly as they possibly can.

Not having any real enforcement in Thailand for driving laws makes this situation even worse. Driving defensive doesn't exists in this country and from my personal experience I rather operate a motorbike than drive. I truely feel safer than driving. While driving it's the motorbikes that drive you crazy they come from all direction like the little flies that surround your face, enter your month when you speak, enter your nose and ear and surround your leg while you sit. It's the wild wild west! But do what I have learn and set your mind to forget the idiot that blast down the road! My saying is " that idiot that just blasted down the road will be dead either today or tomorrow.

LBM

years back I did my thai driving license. 2 options applied. Pay THB 1,000 and pass or do the written and driving test and pass maybe.

I paid:-) and passed.


[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Not having any real enforcement in Thailand for driving laws makes this situation even worse. Driving defensive doesn't exists in this country and from my personal experience I rather operate a motorbike than drive. I truely feel safer than driving. While driving it's the motorbikes that drive you crazy they come from all direction like the little flies that surround your face, enter your month when you speak, enter your nose and ear and surround your leg while you sit. It's the wild wild west! But do what I have learn and set your mind to forget the idiot that blast down the road! My saying is " that idiot that just blasted down the road will be dead either today or tomorrow.

LBM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]years back I did my thai driving license. 2 options applied. Pay THB 1,000 and pass or do the written and driving test and pass maybe. I paid:-) and passed.[/QUOTE]

How did this deal work? Were you told about the two options by the authority, or did you just figure it out yourself and offer the bribe? Is this kind of corruption that open and obvious in LOS? I'm shocked!! Shocked!! :)

Daddy

Oh well. It just kind of happened. I saw the overfilled 'classroom' for the multiple choice exam, then witnessed the utter idiotic driving test (good chance to fail, when turning right on a motorcycle, stretch out right arm LOL). Prompted my secretary to ask for 'other' ways. And voila, all sorted within a few minutes.

JB




[QUOTE=Daddy07]How did this deal work? Were you told about the two options by the authority, or did you just figure it out yourself and offer the bribe? Is this kind of corruption that open and obvious in LOS? I'm shocked!! Shocked!! :)

Daddy[/QUOTE]

Are there any go gos that are open during the day in BKK like in Pattaya? If so which ones and when do they open?

Back in Bangkok after 1 year. The new airport is a bit further and a bit more expensive to take a taxi to Sukhumvit soi 4. There's less taxi rip off artists but still there, otherwise very similair to the old airport style regarding customs and so forth.

My plane landed at 1 am, got to the hotel at 2am. Walked around a bit and my first impression was how quiet the street was. Certainly in comparison to my first trip here 6 years ago. I've been back since the earlier bar closing times but there were still crowds of people in the streets and drinks were still readily available. Even Angels disco was closed by 2am which was a bit surprising. The Nana bar inside the hotel was still serving under the table, low key, and the football (soccer) game was televised but not a big scene by any means. There was a descent amount of girls in the Nana parking lot but certainly less than I remember on previous visits. And although there was still a food court of sorts that still exists along Sukhumvit, it too seemed less crowded than previous years. None of this is a huge deal, just an adjustment but thought it was note worthy. I am curious though if there is a later scene still going on somewhere with good action. I know patpong is open later but I don't really care for that area.

The tuk tuk drivers tried to sell me on a bar open all night, I made that mistake my first time. I was taken to a bar that was attempting to look closed, somewhat an underground scene and had some girls in a fishbowl type set up. Everything was fine until I got my bill. Usual story, padded bill, the tuk tuk driver drank on my tab and the drinks were overly expensive on the ridiculous side. This bar was off the beaten track and when I argued the bill, let's just say the mood got a bit uncomfortable and I realized I should just pay and get out with a lesson learned. Don't trust tuk tuk drivers and stick to better known bars where the doors don't lock behind you.
This is just the beginning of my trip and without a doubt will only improve, I just hope that things don't continue to tighten up in the LOS.

Having lived in Thailand for a number of year many years ago I recall during the rainy season in September and October the streets flooded everywhere. Can someone report on the situation currently? Is the flooding under control these days in the October time frame? My tour is scheduled to arrive Oct 3rd so I am a bit concerned.

v

It's not so bad Vinny. I have exprience with BKK and Hua Hin the last 6-8 years. I don't se it as a daily problem.

But anyway, 60 mio. live with it and they still smile. So I think you have a fair chance to survive.

[QUOTE=Vinny_Viagra]Having lived in Thailand for a number of year many years ago I recall during the rainy season in September and October the streets flooded everywhere. Can someone report on the situation currently? Is the flooding under control these days in the October time frame? My tour is scheduled to arrive Oct 3rd so I am a bit concerned.

v[/QUOTE]

BKK flooding gets worse every year as more and more klongs get filled in for high rise buildings. Klongs were narture's way of diverting water to the Gulf of Thailand. Now that they no longer exist water seeks the lowest level which is the street. Not to mention that Bangkok is slowly sinking and the oceans are rising.

If you ever wonder why the MRT entrances are so high it's because they are built one meter higher than the highest recorded flood level. But, the good thing about BKK is the floods are short lived.

[QUOTE=Goodfeller]
The tuk tuk drivers tried to sell me on a bar open all night, I made that mistake my first time. I was taken to a bar that was attempting to look closed,... Usual story, padded bill, the tuk tuk driver drank on my tab and the drinks were overly expensive on the ridiculous side....

... Don't trust tuk tuk drivers and stick to better known bars where the doors don't lock behind you.
[/QUOTE]

Like, Duh!

[QUOTE=Thailien8]This is not bullshit. Driving any motor vehicle in an urban Thai setting is dangerous, esp. If you are used to driving defensively and sanely. Offensive driving is the way here. Good luck and wear a helmet if you must drive a moto.

Driving on the wrong side of the road means literally that. Thais are supposed to drive on the left, but many, many moto drivers drive on the right, going the wrong way against traffic, on the footpaths, without helmets, passing on blind curves, etc. It seems a rite of masculine affirmation for many youths to drive as badly and carelessly as they possibly can.[/QUOTE]


The point is: you can't be stupid and drive in Thailand. This means Driving while under the influence, while getting a blow job, riding a motorcycle without a helmet, etc. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a motorbike in Thailand. I found it the best way to get around Bangkok when the traffic was stand still. I had one for years and went all over the city. Sure it was a Honda Wave with a basket and step through frame in case I wanted to wear a skirt. But what the hell! Fifty Baht worth of gas a week and I could go almost anywhere I wanted, when I wanted. You just have to watch out for all the crazies and expect them to do the unexpected.

As for driver's licenses. is there still the requirement that you have to have a residence visa to obtain one? When I got mine I hired some guy to get my license for me, register my bike and do all the other stuff. Cost 800 THB if I remember correctly. This was about five years ago and a lot of brain cells have died since then.

[QUOTE=Thailien8]This is not bullshit. Driving any motor vehicle in an urban Thai setting is dangerous, esp. If you are used to driving defensively and sanely. Offensive driving is the way here. Good luck and wear a helmet if you must drive a moto.

Driving on the wrong side of the road means literally that. Thais are supposed to drive on the left, but many, many moto drivers drive on the right, going the wrong way against traffic, on the footpaths, without helmets, passing on blind curves, etc. It seems a rite of masculine affirmation for many youths to drive as badly and carelessly as they possibly can.[/QUOTE]

T8,

it probably depends on where you got your driving experience and which countries you have been before.

From an Indian traffic base, Thai traffic is just as relaxing as US traffic is for a south Italian. You should be aware that high concentration is required to manage the traffic, respectively the unexpected. Never with Alc is my rule. Also better dont have discussions etc. I prefer the Taxi then. I am living in Seoul and I would rate Seoul traffic similar to Thai, but 'better' then India.
Usually you would adopt pretty quick to the local rules, as you would not gain any ground, respectively blocking the traffic and be in even higher risk if you wouldn't act more 'selfish'.

Simple rule to adopt: Be selfish and (more (!) or less) forget the rear mirror. Any view to the rear mirror and you loose track on whatching out what unexpected happens in front of you.
The most difficult is to re-adopt when coming back home.

Heard Teheran could have the worst traffic, but coldn't check myself yet.

I don't care and I am not scared, but I was driving in a lot of countries already. So no issue. But if you are scared, then better don't drive, as you will not manage.

regards

Brain666

Got back to Bangkok after 3 months and though many things were planned to a meticulous detail, things changed as opportunities presented itself. I am into my 6th day and three more to go.

Because of this website I am having a whale of a time. I staying at the Majestic Suites and enjoying their great "girl-friendly" service. As they say in business it is. "location and location, stupid" it is the ideal affordable plae around. The gym pass to Majestic Grande is just perfect.

What a difference from the good old US back home. The cost is very affordable and service great (if you are lucky).

I am a "music" loving guy. That includes live as well as recorded 70-80 era disco type music. Have taken in and have enjoyed many things that I cherish, all within a short spell. Examples are: Angel Disco in Nana Hotel; Radio City in Pat Pong; 7-day (? ) bar along Sukumvit, Soi 7; Saxophone Pub at Victory Monument; visit to China Town; Night Bazaar) Soince I have seen other gems such as, Wat Po; the Grand Palace; Jim Thompson’s House; Suan Pakaard Palace etc. I was not keen in seeing places this time.

The Saxophone Pub is at 3/8 Victory Monu, ent and it is just next to Victory Monument BTS Station. It is open from 9:30 till late.

Went in search of Brown Sugar (Jazz club), but was that impressed.

Other activities such MP, take outs ST and LT etc. Are continuing.

One incident stands out. A girl I met in Nana was coughing and was on some cough medication. On top of that, she also took in a few drinks at Angel Disco. Then all hell broke loose. She became disoriented and thanks to many people on that day it was smoothly handled. First of all, I had help from my buddy, who was also there. Then my girl also had a friend and we all shared a table. So, we were able to physically escort the disoriented girl to the my hotel and then to a taxi. Very next day she was just fine was sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

Has anybody have this type of experience? Any way, this situation was again handled beautifully by Majestic staff.

Believe it or not, I also met Gitto at Angel Studio and said Hi.

I am going to be staying at MS till Tuesday, any fellow mongers look for me. It is easy to spot me. I am the "Indian looking guy".

Cheers and good hunting.

Sidney

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"I don't care and I am not scared, but I was driving in a lot of countries already. So no issue. But if you are scared, then better don't drive, as you will not manage."

I think you are right. I couldn't manage if I tried.

I am not even gonna try to drive in BKK.

With taxis and skytrain I can get around ok.

I don't have the experience to drive in BKK traffic, don't mind admitting it.

For Long Time visits will the TG be willing to stay up all night & fool around? Or want to sleep after a few hours? Will she leave at any time if i ask her? Could it be a problem for her to transport to her residence at any hour of the night?

For Long Time visits with a TG, if i am expecting her to stay and make me happy for 12 hours and she leaves after 6 hours is it going to be a problem if i pay her half {50%} of what I would have for the 12 hours?

[QUOTE=Al Cualquiera]​"I don't care and I am not scared, but I was driving in a lot of countries already. So no issue. But if you are scared, then better don't drive, as you will not manage."

I think you are right. I couldn't manage if I tried.

I am not even gonna try to drive in BKK.

With taxis and skytrain I can get around ok.

I don't have the experience to drive in BKK traffic, don't mind admitting it.[/QUOTE]I'm just thankful that so many Thai taxi drivers are ready and willing to drive me around in Bangkok, so I don't have to. Farang drivers, remember that the Thai cops are definitely not your friends. Try not to get involved in an accident or traffic stop, as you will suffer for it. IMHO, driving in Thailand is inviting unnecessary trouble, and possibly disaster. That said, one of my longtime farang friends drives his moto in Bangkok every day. No wonder he arrives in an awful mood, cursing at the idiotic drivers he must deal with constantly. Rather him than me. Thank god for skytrain and subway.

Anyone familiar with Bangkok Gold Escorts? I have only used an escort service once in BKK, when I arrived at 2:30am in the morning and was too tired to hunt at that time. I came across their website and I must say, some of the girls look very tempting. Pricey, though, at 6,000 baht for a 2 hour session.

This could be a scam, or the photo's so touched up, that when the girls arrive they may look no better than a soapie or go-go girl. I thought I would ask anyway. Always on the prowl for something new.

[url]http://www.bangkokgoldescorts.com/gallery.html[/url]

Rodmanj had a review a few months ago, and seems he had a great time, but the review also seems to indicate that the photos are not real. I know there's an escorts thread, but it get's so little activity. Generally, if the pictures are too good to be true or too professionally done, it's a fake. It never hurts to ask, though. LOL!

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=564639&postcount=70[/url]

AT2

I got my ding dong rung at Pat Pong the other day. It cost me 1000 Baht for a half hour in her room. I got an around-the-world, some deep prostate massage, and a "hello joe" like i haven't had since the 70s. All in all it was worth it,from a sweet girl.

[QUOTE=Opebo]I do not recommend long-time as the girls are tiresome after a couple of hours (who isn't, regardless of gender?)...I don't really recommend bringing girls back to one's own room.[/QUOTE]By "tiresome after a couple of hours" are you saying they get bitchy? If so then I may not know when they get like that since their talk would be all Greek to me; I do not know one word of Thai & don't plan on learning any. BTW I see the language barrier as one of the big benefits of coming to LOS, since for me it is often tiresome and or a distraction to have to listen to a lady talk during a sex-date. As it has been said, God gave men two heads but only enough blood to run one at a time, so please don't try to engage my brain in the middle of a BJ, HJ, or vaginal intercourse. This will cause me to lose erection, & consequently pleasure, & then I will get bitchy.

But getting back to the subject of her bitchiness, from what I have read Thai girls do not have a reputation for having a bad attitude, but compared to the West rather a willingness to please. Bitchiness would not enhance their chances of repeat business with me, let alone special treatment such as being contracted for the week or month, or becoming like an offshore GF whenever I visit LOS. In fact if a girl agreed to show me a good time for a Long Time {LT}, then broke that contact by being bitchy or unwilling to do what we had agreed to beforehand, then I would feel free to dismiss her with a prorated payment.

In Canada I have a gorgeous lady who will lick my balls non stop for 3 hours {$80/hr CDN} & I would hope for similar treatment and more from an Asian LT lady, as I have read that in LOS one can have a lady LT for 12 hours for $50 CDN. If that is the case, then I would divide the 12 hrs between cuddling, massage, DK, BLS, HJs, BJs & FS, depending on my mood & how energenetic I am. For an example, 4 hours cuddling &/or massage, 1 hour DK, 2 hours HJ, 2 hours BLS, 1 hours BJ, 1 hours FS, and an hour break to snack & shower, etc. Is this possible in LOS or should I be looking elsewhere in Asia, or just save the airfare/hotel costs & stay home? If Thailand is worth it I would visit regularly and may even retire there.

P.S. Why not bring the girls "to one's own room"? I would have thought that a no brainer to a bargain hunter such as yourself.

AT2

OK, insert usual comment about the ridiculousness of using escorts in BKK here ___________________.

Ok, now that that's out of the way.......I thought I'd go ahead and do it before someone else did. Now we can actually get to discussing your question.

No, I have never used an escort in BKK, and I have always assumed they're scams. But your question got me thinking.

I'm trying to think about the business model for a service like that in a market like BKK. The conventional wisdom would be that there's so much action in so many venues that you would have to focus on guys who are so inexperienced and afraid to venture out that they're not a viable sustainable market. There's no real repeat visiting business because anyone doing that much purchasing is going to become a better consumer and not use you. There's no real indigenous market because the action is so available and open that your service isn't required.

So that leads me to believe they would focus on scamming them out of money. Which is what we've all assumed (and heard anecdotally). So that leads us back to where we started.

But then I wondered if there's a market out there that we're not considering, and that we don't see openly; is there a market in BKK for high end girls for customers who can afford them, but can't venture into the usual places socially or comfortably? There are a lot of affluent businessmen who travel to BKK and who would be interested in tasting the local delicacies, but aren't regular consumers (mongers). That market would be demanding, and you wouldn't be ripping them off. They'd be good customers. The issue is whether there's enough of them out there to sustain a legitimate provider. Whether there's someone serving them.

And how to differentiate this provider from the rip off escort companies.

There are a lot of businessmen who are used to using escort agencies in their home towns and wherever they travel. They would probably be more comfortable using one in BKK too, and those guys wouldn't be comfortable in Patpong or Nana. I'm getting a kick out of just thinking about some of the guys I know trying to go to Nana and pick up a bargirl (you talk about a fish out of water). LOL

I'm always looking for value. But I'm willing to pay for quality too. I'd be interested in knowing if there was a quality provider of stunners out there. I'd try them once or twice.

Let us know what you eventually find AT2.

Archie

Your assumption that there is no need for escort services somewhat tends to indicate that you never actually been on a business trip.

The last thing you want to do after a day of meetings and stress is to go to NEP etc. What you want is to have a good bath, having your dick sucked and sleep. You also want no girl bugging you for an all nighter.

2 hours, with girls from a set menu hits the spot. For that, well you simply have pay a little more.

JB

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]AT2

OK, insert usual comment about the ridiculousness of using escorts in BKK here ___________________.

Ok, now that that's out of the way.......I thought I'd go ahead and do it before someone else did. Now we can actually get to discussing your question.

No, I have never used an escort in BKK, and I have always assumed they're scams. But your question got me thinking.

I'm trying to think about the business model for a service like that in a market like BKK. The conventional wisdom would be that there's so much action in so many venues that you would have to focus on guys who are so inexperienced and afraid to venture out that they're not a viable sustainable market. There's no real repeat visiting business because anyone doing that much purchasing is going to become a better consumer and not use you. There's no real indigenous market because the action is so available and open that your service isn't required.

So that leads me to believe they would focus on scamming them out of money. Which is what we've all assumed (and heard anecdotally). So that leads us back to where we started.

But then I wondered if there's a market out there that we're not considering, and that we don't see openly; is there a market in BKK for high end girls for customers who can afford them, but can't venture into the usual places socially or comfortably? There are a lot of affluent businessmen who travel to BKK and who would be interested in tasting the local delicacies, but aren't regular consumers (mongers). That market would be demanding, and you wouldn't be ripping them off. They'd be good customers. The issue is whether there's enough of them out there to sustain a legitimate provider. Whether there's someone serving them.

And how to differentiate this provider from the rip off escort companies.

There are a lot of businessmen who are used to using escort agencies in their home towns and wherever they travel. They would probably be more comfortable using one in BKK too, and those guys wouldn't be comfortable in Patpong or Nana. I'm getting a kick out of just thinking about some of the guys I know trying to go to Nana and pick up a bargirl (you talk about a fish out of water). LOL

I'm always looking for value. But I'm willing to pay for quality too. I'd be interested in knowing if there was a quality provider of stunners out there. I'd try them once or twice.

Let us know what you eventually find AT2.[/QUOTE]

So when you do business you buy products unseen?

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]AT2

OK, insert usual comment about the ridiculousness of using escorts in BKK here ___________________.

1) The conventional wisdom would be that there's so much action in so many venues that you would have to focus on guys who are so inexperienced and afraid to venture out that they're not a viable sustainable market.

2) So that leads me to believe they would focus on scamming them out of money.

3) Is there a market in BKK for high end girls for customers who can afford them, but can't venture into the usual places socially or comfortably?

4) I'm always looking for value. But I'm willing to pay for quality too. I'd be interested in knowing if there was a quality provider of stunners out there. I'd try them once or twice.

Let us know what you eventually find AT2.[/QUOTE]

Archie,

Looking for escorts, while ridiculous on the surface, is not actually as ridiculous as it seems. There are several reasons why. Many of which you brought up. Which is why it is always wrong to assume. Like the old saying, assuming makes an ass out of you and me. By the way, have a great trip to Tokyo. It's a tough nut to crack, but so much fun!

My responses to your points, which address why Escort services are still out there in BKK. As I mentioned .. I used an agency just once when I arrived at a very late hour due to a flight delay and was dead tired. Of course, I could not pass on getting laid in BKK on my first night, so I made the phone call and showered/ate before the escort arrived. I had a nice experience with a college student (Or so she says).

In terms of what the makes up the Escort agency market, I don't think it's entirely newbies. Yes, there are those newbies that are afraid to venture out, but I don't believe they are the Escort Agencies core business. I stumbled upon the website and it got me thinking of high end agencies. I think the website I mentioned is more bait and switch, but I am hopeful for a high end option. I know I will be visiting the Pent Executive Club again and also pay some visits to the high end night clubs for some FL action.

Anyway, my comments ...

Point one .. Conventional wisdom says. The last time I checked, the world is full of average Joe's. The reason .. they play it safe and stick to conventional wisdom. The internet, 24 hour news and sports channels, flying to the moon, jets, etc. are all based on defying conventional wisdom.

Point two .. Scammers. Yes, there are scammers out there, but they exist everywhere. That's why we do our homework.

Point three .. Is there a market for high end girls? Absolutely. I rarely ever make my choices in BKK based on price. Sometimes I like good value and other times I don't mind breaking the bank on quality. There are many others like that. Paying $250 to $1,000 is routine in Japan. I don't think they break a sweat spending 6,000 baht. There's an escort service in Montreal that specializes in model quality escorts at $500-$600 for a 2 hour session. I'm sure there are many high end clubs in BKK, that most are not aware of, which exist solely to cater to high rollers.

Point four .. Agreed. I'm more than willing to pay for quality, if the girl is a true stunner with a great skill set.

There are many individuals who also cannot afford or would be uncomfortable visiting the many open play ground areas like Nana Plaza. Some live and work in BKK and only visit Soapies or hire escorts. Some are on business trips and lack the time, energy, or must keep a low profile. Others are with significant others and get a separate room and hire an escort.

There are many reasons, and that's why they exist. I'm just asking about one specific Agency, since there are two girls pictured, and would pay 6,000 baht if the pics are accurate.

AT2

No disrespect but I find your arguments very poor.

First of all, conventional wisdom is to use escort agencies. That is the norm throughout the world in almost every city outside Asia.

Also, there is no evidence that an escort agency provides a better quality girl. In fact, my empirical evidence (this comes from married friends of mine who use those services for fear of being caught) is that they are usually of poorer quality.

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]No disrespect but I find your arguments very poor.

First of all, conventional wisdom is to use escort agencies. That is the norm throughout the world in almost every city outside Asia.

Also, there is no evidence that an escort agency provides a better quality girl. In fact, my empirical evidence (this comes from married friends of mine who use those services for fear of being caught) is that they are usually of poorer quality.[/QUOTE]

HK Dog,

I agree to disagree. Conventional wisdom is to use escort agencies in SOME parts of the world, but not in BKK and as you mentioned in the rest of Asia. Going to Nana Plaza, Patpong, Soi Cowboy and the large Soapies is conventional wisdom in BKK. Going to AMP's (Asian Massage Parlors) is conventional wisdom in Hawaii. Escorts are not conventional wisdom in South America or Germany. The list can go on and on.

My point is that conventional wisdom is not always necessarily right and there are times when you need to go past conventional wisdom for truely great experiences. Why limit yourself to conventional wisdom?

I don't disagree that most escort agencies are of average to poor quality. You can see that by their websites. That does not mean that one does not exist that may be of very high quality. If a high end agency does not exist in BKK, fine. However, if you don't ask, you don't find out. When you stop looking, you stop discovering.

Your friends are one example of some that may need to use escorts. Need is one major reason. A high end agency may or may not exist. I'm not promoting escort agencies as a must do or even promoting them as an option. I'm just asking about that one agency that I came across. Please do not misinterpret my response to Archie. My point there, was just to point out that conventional wisdom is NOT the "be all end all" of thinking. It is the safe route, the percentage route, but it leaves you missing all too many fantastic experiences.

I think Archie would agree, since his post showed that he too, thought about at least some of the possibilities. I don't care if empirical evidence shows that generally most escort agencies have poor quality girls. All I care about, is if there is ONE agency that provides high end model type girls, beyond what you would normally see in a Soapie and Go-Go venue. And yes, I know the soapies have "model" quality girls. Some are, but most are not any more exceptional than their counterparts in the fishbowls.

AT2

I am still trying to understand your 'conventional wisdom' argument. If you have no extenuating circumstance (such as being married or time for exploring limited) I just don't buy into trying something since its against conventional wisdom.

Conventional wisdom exists because thousands have tried it and declared it to be the superior product.

I'd rather go with empirical evidence than bucking conventional wisdom.

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]I'd rather go with empirical evidence than bucking conventional wisdom.[/QUOTE]

I understand. Most people do, since it's the safe thing to do. I just asked a simple question. Is Bangkok Gold escorts any good or are they bait and switch. I did not ask how escort services are in general. I already know that. Look, I'm not asking you to change your thinking. It works for you and my way works for me.

Archie brought up conventional wisdom. While I agree it's the safe route to take, there is a lot of empirical evidence to point out the limits of conventional wisdom. That plane that took you to BKK is the best empirical evidence you need, to prove that conventional wisdom has it's limits. Conventional wisdom said that man was not meant to fly.

Let's just say, I prefer to fly! Think of the possibilities! The great irony of this discussion is that BKK is all about fantasy and the possibilities. What's so wrong about getting a hot model level girl delivered to your door if that option is out there? Again, I'm just asking.

Not looking for generalizations. Just looking for someone who has actually used this agency. If no one answers, I may just try them anyway.

AT2

But common sense should be used. If you are looking for supermodel/actress etc, you will never find it in a standard escort service.

Of course you can probably get Miss Thailand for a price (and I am sure many have).

I agree that would be a useful connection but at that level it is done by private pimps to selective clients. Not some bozo getting off the plane and opening up the phone book.

[QUOTE=Pinkpearl]For Long Time visits will the TG be willing to stay up all night & fool around? Or want to sleep after a few hours? Will she leave at any time if i ask her? Could it be a problem for her to transport to her residence at any hour of the night?

For Long Time visits with a TG, if i am expecting her to stay and make me happy for 12 hours and she leaves after 6 hours is it going to be a problem if i pay her half {50%} of what I would have for the 12 hours?[/QUOTE]

Long time usually means you pick her up in a bar, take her back to your place for the night. She is expected to give you two goes. One as a sleeping aid and the other as a wake up call. Most guys just opt for a blow job in the morning, but it's up to you.

She will leave any time you decide, you are the employeer. As for six hours vs. 12. If her short time rate is 1,000 and her long time rate is 1,500 then give her 1,000, not 750.

Please see my post in the Bangkok Escort Agencies Thread.

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]But common sense should be used. If you are looking for supermodel/actress etc, you will never find it in a standard escort service.

Of course you can probably get Miss Thailand for a price (and I am sure many have).

I agree that would be a useful connection but at that level it is done by private pimps to selective clients. Not some bozo getting off the plane and opening up the phone book.[/QUOTE]

HK Dog,

Are you from HK or China? This may be just a cultural/language thing, but you are taking everything that I said way too literally. By model level, I did not mean Miss Thailand and I certainly don't expect Tuk Janjira or Amey Chotirot showing at my door. LOL! The Soapies use the sideline model or "model" designation, since some of the supposedly pose for men's magazines like the Thai Penthouse magazine.

Chill and have some fun. Don't over analyze everything and don't worry too much about it! What's the worst that could happen with an escort. Over pay by $90 US? Have an average fuck? There are worst things that can happen and I'm sure I will survive. LOL! I have never ruled things out based solely on conventional wisdom, since things change or there are always exceptions to the rule.

Besides, this post should have stayed in the Escort thread. I am sooooo regretting posting in this thread. A simple question got soooo screwed up.

Peace!
AT2

[QUOTE=Retired Army]Please see my post in the Bangkok Escort Agencies Thread.[/QUOTE]

RA,

Saw it and your prior posts in the Escort thread. Very informative and I know a Thai national that is in the same situation as you are.

To everyone else,

We don't need to be debating the philosphy on this topic. I used an escort service once in my 15 years going to BKK. I saw a specific site that intrigued me, because of two specific girls that I would have some interest seeing based on the photos. I realize the photo's are probably fake, but it never hurts to ask! Oooops! Maybe it does, when others decide to read more into the question than was intended.

If any of you have actually used Bangkok Gold, PM me or post the answer in the escort thread. Very simple. I'm sorry for all the time and energy spent on this question.

Thanks!
AT2

[QUOTE=Retired Army]Long time usually means you pick her up in a bar, take her back to your place for the night. She is expected to give you two goes. One as a sleeping aid and the other as a wake up call. Most guys just opt for a blow job in the morning, but it's up to you. [/QUOTE]How does this compare with Short Time {ST} or offer anything more than ST, other than a warm body might be beside you for the night, assuming it is not gone with your belongings/loot before you awake? I could "go" {cum/ejaculate} twice during a two hour ST session too.

Personally if I had a TG LT literally sleeping over then I would wish to take advantage of the opportunity by being awake the whole time to cuddle and caress her while she was sleeping. For me this is just as good as sex, if I am in the mood for it. Other times I am in the mood to get right to the hardcore stuff & bypass kissing, etc.

If it is up to me, as you say, each "go" will last 5 hours before I cum, if I do at all. The question is, are the TGs up to it? And, if any are, are they going to charge me triple?

I hope the TGs are not like the SWs in my city. They want to charge you for a service {HJ = $20, BJ = $40, FS = $60} and get you to cum in the first 5 minutes. Certainly that doesn't work for me since I want the session, and the pleasure, to last as long as possible. I do my best not to cum till I can't take it any longer. So I put it to my local SW ladies like this: I'll give you $10 for every ten minutes of actual service {so travelling/toileting/eating etc times are not on the clock} & an extra $20 bonus if you make it a whole hour. Of course in LOS I will need to get a much better rate than that, or it is not worth the extra costs {hotel/airfare, etc} & hassles in travelling that far. Is that possible, or should I stay home? Do you think offering them a weekly deal, payable daily, might get me a better deal? Maybe I will just have to come to LOS & check it out since I am in an unusual situation.

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Anyone familiar with Bangkok Gold Escorts?
This could be a scam, or the photo's so touched up, that when the girls arrive they may look no better than a soapie or go-go girl. I thought I would ask anyway. Always on the prowl for something new.

[url]http://www.bangkokgoldescorts.com/gallery.html[/url]
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AT2[/QUOTE]Most of the photos were shot in London England and appeared on escort sites in the UK. It's possible the same girls returned to BKK to carry on working - [i]unlikely[/i].

Survived another week in BKK, 4th in 6 months. I need help broadening my horizons. It seems once I get to BKK, 24 hrs from home, I get my drink on, find a TGF & have been unsuccessful getting away from NEP. So my friend had the b'day week of his life. We Gogo'd every night, MP every day, all good for the most part. Now am considering the Cathay Pacific deal & wondering if it might be worth going to Phuket instead of BKK as I cannot get motivated to leave BKK once there. Is there a central location for gogo's, mp's, daytime pickup joints in Phuket maybe on par w/NEP. Just curious if others think I am shorting myself by limiting my activities so.

Yesterday we went to Hard Rock Cafe. It was quite disappointing.

We arrived around 10:30 pm, and ordered something to eat first. That was basically the highlight of the night, the food was quite ok (though I found my chicken too dry). Service was good, as usual in Hard Rock Cafe, I like this easy style of the waiters sitting even down at the table with you when taking the orders.

After finishing dinner we moved to the bar, listening to the band. Now, I would say that I am not really a fan of that band. The music selection was not bad, but - they could practice a bit more. The sound was somehow suspiciously unclear...

There were some girls. Yes. Nothing more to say. Years ago the selection was good there, but now ... no, if it is like this every night I would not recommend it as a pick up joint any more.


Giotto

I hate to contribute to cross-chat in a forum dedicated to reports, but I will clarify:

[QUOTE=Pinkpearl]By "tiresome after a couple of hours" are you saying they get bitchy?[/quote]

No, I assume most of them would not be 'bitchy'. I just find as soon as I have expended my load I have an urge to leave quickly. It is the period between sex acts that I think more fun alone than with a girl. I can remember however one much-missed 3-holer from the glory days of Pattaya Beach Road - maybe 4 years ago - who was so good I took her for two short times in one day occasionally.

[quote]In Canada I have a gorgeous lady who will lick my balls non stop for 3 hours {$80/hr CDN} & I would hope for similar treatment and more from an Asian LT lady, as I have read that in LOS one can have a lady LT for 12 hours for $50 CDN.[/quote]

You are very fortunate! If you consider the cost of travel and time off work, no doubt some well-chosen girls in Canadia are cheaper and provide similar service to our Thai girls. I always found that mongering back in the US was actually cheaper when you took the overall expense into account. What you lose however is variety - there may be only half a dozen decent providers that even a determined monger can ferret out in a US city, while in Pattaya they are numerous even after the demise of the Beach Road.

[quote]P.S. Why not bring the girls "to one's own room"? I would have thought that a no brainer to a bargain hunter such as yourself.[/QUOTE]

I have only had trouble with three or four girls in all my years in Thailand, but it will happen, and even to the experienced. For this reason I desire 1) to always be able to jump up, pull on my shorts, and run, 2) that neither the she nor the hotel in which I do the deed know my real name, and 3) that she not know where I reside, for future reference.

What a mess.


Bluebird,

I honestly think you misread my post.

You said:

[quote]There are a lot of businessmen who are used to using escort agencies in their home towns and wherever they travel. They would probably be more comfortable using one in BKK too, and those guys wouldn't be comfortable in Patpong or Nana.[/quote]

Yes, I know. That’s exactly what I said too.

I said there was a market, and for exactly the reason you stated. For some reason you believe I think there is NO reason. Perhaps you don’t differentiate between “conventional wisdom” and reality. I do. The whole point of mentioning conventional wisdom is to then refute it with a better argument, which I went on to do. Perhaps you didn’t read that far.

I haven’t been on a business trip? Uh, OK. I’ll let that pass. And assume you fell out of the wrong side of the hammock this morning. :)

AT2, (it’s all your fault) LOL!

[quote]Looking for escorts, while ridiculous on the surface, is not actually as ridiculous as it seems. There are several reasons why. Many of which you brought up. Which is why it is always wrong to assume. Like the old saying, assuming makes an ass out of you and me.[/quote]

As I said to Bluebird, I wasn’t agreeing with conventional wisdom, I was using it as a starting point from which to digress. I went on to disagree with it, as you noted.

[quote]Please do not misinterpret my response to Archie. My point there, was just to point out that conventional wisdom is NOT the "be all end all" of thinking. It is the safe route, the percentage route, but it leaves you missing all too many fantastic experiences.[/quote]

Exactly my point. I agree with everything else you said in both subsequent posts. That was the point I was making.

It’s the norm in many places to use Escorts, it’s not in BKK. The impression is that most Escort agencies in BKK are scams. That may be true, but there is a potential legitimate market for the services, which might be a leading indicator that one might exist. It’s just a matter of finding it, and differentiating it from the scams. But the customer potential is there. I’m one too.

I’ve made a living by knowing when to buck conventional wisdom and when to rely on an established track record.

Archie, you are loosing the plot a little LOL. Never quoted below. Check again.

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]What a mess.

Bluebird,

I honestly think you misread my post.

You said: There are a lot of businessmen who are used to using escort agencies in their home towns and wherever they travel. They would probably be more comfortable using one in BKK too, and those guys wouldn't be comfortable in Patpong or Nana.

Yes, I know. That’s exactly what I said too.

I said there was a market, and for exactly the reason you stated. For some reason you believe I think there is NO reason. Perhaps you don’t differentiate between “conventional wisdom” and reality. I do. The whole point of mentioning conventional wisdom is to then refute it with a better argument, which I went on to do. Perhaps you didn’t read that far.

I haven’t been on a business trip? Uh, OK. I’ll let that pass. And assume you fell out of the wrong side of the hammock this morning. :)

[/QUOTE]

Opebo

Agree with you 100%. I mean who wants an all nighter anyway. To sleep next to a person I just met, I think not. After sex it's truly time for the girl to go. After all, it was just sex I wanted.

I think someone in the Thailand thread quoted this before "you pay them to go, not to stay". I think this best describes it.

JB


[QUOTE=Opebo]I hate to contribute to cross-chat in a forum dedicated to reports, but I will clarify:

No, I assume most of them would not be 'bitchy'. I just find as soon as I have expended my load I have an urge to leave quickly. It is the period between sex acts that I think more fun alone than with a girl. I can remember however one much-missed 3-holer from the glory days of Pattaya Beach Road - maybe 4 years ago - who was so good I took her for two short times in one day occasionally.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]HK Dog,

Are you from HK or China? This may be just a cultural/language thing, but you are taking everything that I said way too literally. By model level, I did not mean Miss Thailand and I certainly don't expect Tuk Janjira or Amey Chotirot showing at my door. LOL! The Soapies use the sideline model or "model" designation, since some of the supposedly pose for men's magazines like the Thai Penthouse magazine.

AT2[/QUOTE]


I am a westerner and it is not a cultural thing but common sense. There is a reason why 'classic' Escort agencies are not conventional wisdom. Conventional wisdom says there are no Ice Vendor's to the Eskimo's. Same logic.

Also you can get Thai Penthouse models to screw. I have. Unfortunately they are not going to be found in Escort agencies but private pimps. I cannot disclose the names to you unfortunately since it was done to me as a favor from someone.

[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]Opebo

Agree with you 100%. I mean who wants an all nighter anyway. To sleep next to a person I just met, I think not. After sex it's truly time for the girl to go. After all, it was just sex I wanted.

I think someone in the Thailand thread quoted this before "you pay them to go, not to stay". I think this best describes it.

JB[/QUOTE]Actually, I think that was Martin Sheen's quote. ;)

JB,

You're right. Too many posts and posters too keep up with. Got yours swapped in copy/paste with another.

Yours was:

[quote]Your assumption that there is no need for escort services somewhat tends to indicate that you never actually been on a business trip.

The last thing you want to do after a day of meetings and stress is to go to NEP etc. What you want is to have a good bath, having your dick sucked and sleep. You also want no girl bugging you for an all nighter.

2 hours, with girls from a set menu hits the spot. For that, well you simply have pay a little more.[/quote]

I didn't assume there's no need for Escort Services. I use them.

And I went into detail about businessmen not wanting to go to NEP.

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Actually, I think that was Martin Sheen's quote. ;)[/QUOTE]
It may very well be; however with Charlie's interest in poon, if it came from anyone in the Sheen family, my money would be on Charlie. ;)
(unless you are talking about a line in a movie.)

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]I am a westerner and it is not a cultural thing but common sense. There is a reason why 'classic' Escort agencies are not conventional wisdom. [/QUOTE]

HK Dog,

That's fine. We just don't agree and that's ok. You spend your money your way and I will do the same. I'm sure we are both having fun in our own ways. I try to use common sense when it matters, and in this case it does not. The more options, the more fun!

The only rule I have in BKK is to play covered, and I always have a blast in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Conventional wisdom says there are no Ice Vendor's to the Eskimo's. Same logic.
[/QUOTE]

Some guy's believe all girls are the same .. and the Ice Cube logic would work for them, since an ice cube is an ice cube. I see each girl/woman as unique, and therefore if I see one that is not in the venue touted by conventional wisdom but she has something that appeals to me, I will go after her. Why not? Price becomes somewhat irrelevent.

Instead of the ice cube example, I look at them as distinct "one of kind" pieces of art or one of a kind cars. If you had two distinct "one of a kind" cars made especially for you, but you could only buy one, and you have enough money to buy either one. Would you take the car you want or choose soley on price? I would buy the one I want and that's just me.

There's no right or wrong answer here. It's a choice that's involved. You are the ice cube guy and I take the one of kind approach.

Peace,
AT2

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]I’ve made a living by knowing when to buck conventional wisdom and when to rely on an established track record.[/QUOTE]

So have I, and we are on the same page. And yes, it's all MY FAULT! LOL! I will take full responsibility for this fiasco!

AT2

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]
There's no right or wrong answer here. It's a choice that's involved. You are the ice cube guy and I take the one of kind approach.

Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]


But you aren't really making much sense. It has nothing to do with the quality of the ice cube in my analogy. It is all to do with the massive abundance readily available.

I will however follow your logic on quality. If there was a superhot girl looking for money in Thailand, where would she most likely end up? In an Escort Agency or outside?

In most parts of the world , an Escort agency would be a better choice. In Thailand, like Ice to an Eskimo, the abundance overwhelms the odds.

Your method is basically rolling the die on a massive long shot on a game thats fixed. No chance of winning.

[QUOTE=Ultra Pilot]Survived another week in BKK, 4th in 6 months. I need help broadening my horizons. It seems once I get to BKK, 24 hrs from home, I get my drink on, find a TGF & have been unsuccessful getting away from NEP. So my friend had the b'day week of his life. We Gogo'd every night, MP every day, all good for the most part. Now am considering the Cathay Pacific deal & wondering if it might be worth going to Phuket instead of BKK as I cannot get motivated to leave BKK once there. Is there a central location for gogo's, mp's, daytime pickup joints in Phuket maybe on par w/NEP. Just curious if others think I am shorting myself by limiting my activities so.[/QUOTE]


Phuket is very different to Bangkok you really need to stay in Patong. The main area is Bangala rd with the bars and a few gogo's, there is also Christins massage. The beach is very good there way better than Pattaya.

You could get a taxi from the airport to Pattaya it has plenty of bars and gogos from walking street right to North Pattaya then around soi 3 second road you have some soapies and on soi 6 you have the st places.

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]



It’s the norm in many places to use Escorts, it’s not in BKK. The impression is that most Escort agencies in BKK are scams. That may be true, but there is a potential legitimate market for the services, which might be a leading indicator that one might exist. It’s just a matter of finding it, and differentiating it from the scams. But the customer potential is there. I’m one too.

[/QUOTE]

While I agree that there are far too many other options than using an Escort Agency I would not say that most are scams, they are grossly overpriced and offer girls that could be found in venues such as CM2 but most will send you the girl that you have chosen ----or you simply send her away.
This service is ideal for a guy on business who does not have the time to scour the bar areas.

Hi all,

Can someone please explain to me why their are so many men out there willing to send money half way arcoss the world to a girl that is still getting fucked by a different man everyday. I know a girl in bkk that asks for 1500 ST and 3000 LT, and you either like it or lump it because she doesn't need the money.

If you not want to pay she don't care because their will always be another customer willing to part with the money for a chance to fuck her, tell her they love her and ask her to marry them. Then send her money thinking she actually likes them.

Then you end up with a girl form a different bar that doesn't want to leave the next day, because she is scared of taxi drivers or so she says. Maybe i am too lazy to take the time to find the right girl for the right price.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]While I agree that there are far too many other options than using an Escort Agency I would not say that most are scams, they are grossly overpriced and offer girls that could be found in venues such as CM2 but most will send you the girl that you have chosen ----or you simply send her away.
This service is ideal for a guy on business who does not have the time to scour the bar areas.[/QUOTE]


There are smaller agencies that specializie in the high end business guy. These are guys who are often well known, very rich, and would never set foot in a go-go bar. And there are well educated, upscale Thai girls that want and need the money, but aren't going to freelance it even in a place like Spasso's or CM2.

I have posted about my experiences with such an agency and have gotten to know the woman who runs such a place. It is a niche and definitely not for everyone, but she provides a service for both the client and the girl. If you are used to paying European or American escort prices, agency prices in Bangkok are a bargain.

Just remember I am not talking about the agencies you find advertised on the web or in newspaper. These are small agencies that mostly do word of mouth business and it is mostly a repeat business. The girls know they are only going to see upscale business type guys.

Having said all of that though, anyone who can read this forum can avoid the expense and find suitable companionship in the multitude of ways talked about here. But there are those, and I was one in the beginning, that didn't know any better and agencies provided a valuable service. I met some really nice girls that way and it was really easy. That is what you pay for.

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]But you aren't really making much sense. It has nothing to do with the quality of the ice cube in my analogy. It is all to do with the massive abundance readily available.

I will however follow your logic on quality. If there was a superhot girl looking for money in Thailand, where would she most likely end up? In an Escort Agency or outside?

In most parts of the world , an Escort agency would be a better choice. In Thailand, like Ice to an Eskimo, the abundance overwhelms the odds.

Your method is basically rolling the die on a massive long shot on a game thats fixed. No chance of winning.[/QUOTE]

HK Dog,

I tried it once and won. I'm 1 for 1. The reason you don't agree and feel that my way lacks common sense, is that you start your thinking using the wrong set of assumptions. You are looking at odds and value. All I care, is if I meet someone I find intriguing, and the venue and price to me generally does not matter. If tonight I see a girl at Nana who is interesting for 2,000 baht and a girl who is more interesting on an Escort website for 5,000 baht, I would choose the more interesting prospect. I understand and don't flame or question others, when they work within a budget. I understand. I also understand if they base their decisions on value. That's fine too. Just understand that it's not everyone's way, and it's not because they don't understand the odds or economics of the situation. It's just that to them, it may not matter. It's a vacation! This is not rocket science or some business decision. We are out to have a good time! Odds be damned! I would like to point out, that the odds are not astronomical. I saw two girls on a website that I would love to see. I asked about that one specific Agency. Is it legit. Please don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.

When you date woman, do you look at venue or do you look and see someone you would like to spend some time with and ask her out? Why did you ask her out? You saw something in her! Did you estimate the odds of her saying yes? Did you work out the cost of a date with her versus the cost with a date of your 2nd choice? I sure hope not! To me the venue does not matter .. Go-Go Bar, Soapie, Escort, who cares! I get the feeling it does matter for you! Which is my we are having this debate, which is getting very old by the way. The only reason I'm staying the course, is that I see so many members projecting their values, methods, budgets, etc. on to other members. Even flaming them on occassion. Not cool.

I may see a SPECIFIC girl at NEP, or at Soi Cowboy, or at CM2, or maybe if I happen to be browsing an escort agency website I may select her (If I know the photo is real). I do not use price or venue to decide which girl I select. I'm usually happy with my choices, because they are MY choices. There can be a dozen 7's in a room. They are not all the same. If I chose one of them, it would be for a specific reason .. a specific look or personality or just a certain something that attracts you to them.

I don't limit my choices based on preconceived notions. I just never saw any sense in that. Is an escort agency the percentage play? NO. Can it work? YES! I tried it once and had a great time! No regrets! As I said before, I'm not asking you to change your thinking. Just understand that everyone is unique and have their reasons why they do things their way. Most of the time, those reasons make sense to them and if you truely understand where they are coming from, you might understand and agree too. We don't all drive the same cars, eat the same food, live in the same cities, see the same movies. We all make choices based on the pleasure or satisfaction we expect from our choices.

I do need to make this point. In 15 years of going to BKK, I have only used an escort service ONCE! All I'm saying, is I am not ruling out that option. It's not my standard MO.

By the way, have you even used an escort service before?

AT2

I generally spend my mornings and afternoons at a oil massage or soapie massage. If not, the Emporium or some other shopping center. Sometimes some of the pool bars, like Gullivers and the Hillary Bars on Soi 4. I have been to BKK enough, where I no longer want to see any of the tourist attractions.

Are there any new afternoon bars that have come up in the last 3-4 months that are worth checking out? I have never liked the Beer Garden, so I'm looking for other alternatives.

Thanks,
AT2

Avoid those scary mobs, and if a mustached maylay moolie Thai tries to chat you up, head the other way!! The cabbies could get methed up, drunk and want to open a can o' Kick ass on the horny farhang if stuff gets out of hand.
Remember that one angry Thai dude can kick your teeth out and a mob can turn you into a "farhang pinata" with literally no emergency services to take you to the Hospital. At least the Bumragrad is near Nana.

This has GOT TO make the Baht drop.
POLITICAL PARTY RULINGS
Bangkok on high alert for violence

13,000 soldiers, police to be deployed in areas considered to be flashpoints; Democrats, TRT deny mobilising supporters

BANGKOK: -- Security will be tightened in areas likely to be flashpoints for violence ahead of tomorrow's landmark rulings of the Constitution Tribunal on the electoral fraud cases against the country's two largest political parties.

A 13,000-strong combined force of police and soldiers will be deployed to maintain order and prevent violence, Council for National Security chairman General Sonthi Boonyaratglin said. He was speaking after a meeting of officials in preparation for judgement day.

There has been concern that supporters of the rival parties are likely to gather in great numbers in the capital and could cause trouble if they find the rulings disappointing.

From this afternoon, police will seal off the Constitution Tribunal building and search its compound to ensure no explosive devices have been planted, Police Lt-General Adisorn Nonsee, the Metropolitan Police commissioner, said.

He said the police would also secure nearby bridges tomorrow, when the tribunal is scheduled to read its verdicts on the separate cases against the Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties, as well as three smaller political parties.

Police will work with military officers and city officials to prevent any violent incidents, Police General Vichien Pojphosri, a senior police commander in charge of security, said.

Hundreds of police officers will be stationed at Sanam Luang and the Royal Plaza, where Thai Rak Thai supporters are expected to gather, and at the headquarters of both the Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties.

Authorities have been on alert after receiving intelligence that party supporters from the provinces are travelling to the capital. However, the Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties have dismissed reports that they are mobilising their supporters.

Thai Rak Thai's caretaker leader Chaturon Chaisang yesterday accused the junta of spreading rumours to paint a bad image of the "old power clique" of which the party was a part.

The use of a backup military force, comprising another 43 companies from Bangkok-based Army units, if needed, would be "decisive" and "lawful", Army commander General Sonthi said yesterday.

Sonthi said he gave direct orders during yesterday's meeting with unit commanders that all soldiers participating in all security operations "must be unarmed" and would not be positioned in areas involving direct confrontations with protesters.

The 13,000-strong force comprises soldiers from 29 companies, Bangkok-based policemen and municipal policemen. Its main duty is to guard against possible violent incidents between supporters of Democrat and Thai Rak Thai parties, or anti-junta activists and the soldiers themselves.

Police will concentrate their efforts on curbing anti-junta movements that could be supported by taxi motorcyclists and taxi drivers.

A police intelligence report warned that the groups, referred to as "mobs in red shirts", might operate across the capital to create disorder if the verdicts dissolve any of the parties, or both.

Bangkok police chief Pol Lt-General Adisorn Nonsee said all 88 police stations had been observing the group's ongoing movements and their expected activities in the next few days.

Checkpoints will be set up on major city streets to intercept their vehicles or make arrests in case the group members showed signs of disobedience.

Elephants will also be barred from entering Bangkok at this time.

A bomb threat was received on telephone at the Thai Rak Thai Party's former headquarters on New Phetchaburi Road yesterday morning.

The caller said explosives would be set off but did not specify at which TRT office the attack would take place.

The official who received the call at 10am then telephoned the party's new headquarters at Navasorn Building on Rama 3 Road. Security officials and two sniffer dogs were called in to search the building but found nothing suspicious.

Meanwhile, Chaturon has called a meeting of party members to ensure there are no disturbances tomorrow when the Constitution Tribunal rules on the party's possible dissolution.

Chaturon is worried that if there is any disorder following the ruling, or if ill-intentioned people disguise themselves as Thai Rak Thai Party supporters and create disturbances, the Council for National Security may blame the party for any turmoil.

The party plans to send a few members to hear the verdict but Chaturon has instructed all other party members and supporters not to go to the tribunal but to hear the verdict at the party's headquarters.

TRT has also asked the police to deploy 200 officers at its headquarters tomorrow to maintain security.

Areas where trouble could possibly erupt

- Sanam Luang: Tomorrow, when the Saturday People Against Dictatorship plans an anti-coup rally. Popular Jatukam Ramathep amulets will be given away to gatherers.

- The Royal Plaza: Thursday, when PTV plans a rally at a nearby location.

- Headquarters of the two main parties involved: the Democrats, off Rama VI Road, and Thai Rak Thai at the Navasorn Building on Rama III Road.

- Checkpoints will be set up at Pok Klao, Pin Klao and Krung Thon bridges and on all roads connecting to them. These bridges and certain sections of the roads will be closed if the protest becomes too large.

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Places to avoid

Areas with heavy police presence

- Within the Constitution Court compound on Chakra Phet Road, where only 500 people will be permitted inside.

- Around the compound, where 900 policemen and a back-up force comprising an unspecified number of soldiers and municipal police will be on duty. Only 3,000 supporters of both parties and onlookers will be allowed near the compound

Source: The Royal Thai Police

BANGKOK: -- Foreigners in Bangkok were on Tuesday warned to exercise caution amid mounting security fears ahead of a landmark court decision over whether to dissolve Thailand's two largest political parties.

Australia, Canada, France and Japan all advised their citizens to show a high degree of personal security awareness as Wednesday's verdict could trigger violent demonstrations in the Thai capital.

"You should avoid demonstrations, political rallies and concentrations of military personnel," the Australian embassy in a statement.

The Japanese embassy called on its citizens to "stay away from expected political rallies" and "act very cautiously so as not to get involved in possible unrest and terror attacks."

Thailand is the fourth most popular foreign destination for Japanese tourists after the United States, China (including Hong Kong) and South Korea.

Some 900 police will be deployed on Bangkok's streets Tuesday evening, protecting the Constitutional Tribunal offices and setting up checkpoints to deter party supporters from travelling to the capital from the provinces.

Some 15,000 Thai troops were on alert Tuesday across the country to deter possible violence, officials said.

The Canadian embassy warned that planned protests might turn violent and urged its citizens to "maintain high level of personal security awareness" and avoid "unnecessary travel" in Bangkok.

The US embassy here has left its travel advice unchanged, urging tourists and expatriates to monitor events and avoid large public gatherings.

The British embassy's travel advice, which was updated on Wednesday last week, also urged its citizens to avoid demonstrations and large crowds.

On Wednesday, Thailand's Constitutional Tribunal must decide whether Thai Rak Thai, the party formed by ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, and the Democrat Party are guilty of a slew of charges of electoral fraud related to annulled elections in April last year.

The tribunal has the power to dissolve the parties and ban their executives from politics for five years.

The potentially divisive ruling comes after more than a year of political upheaval culminating in the September 19 coup against Thaksin.

-- AFP 2007-05-29

CNS security plan can tackle 10,000

BANGKOK: -- The Council for National Security (CNS) yesterday unveiled a new security plan designed to control up to 10,000 protesters rallying against tomorrow's verdicts on the two electoral fraud cases against the Thai Rak Thai and Democrat parties.

"The plan, dubbed Pitak I, is aimed at pre-empting any protest-related violence," CNS spokesman Colonel Sansern Kaewkamnoed said.

The plan has already been activated and will remain in force until June 1 - or until all suspicious activities have ceased.

Soldiers from three branches of the armed forces and policemen will be mobilised to enforce crowd control measures, he said.

Under the plan, security authorities will strive to help people gain an understanding of the political situation, and monitor mass activities with the aim of discouraging the crowds from protesting against the verdicts. In the next step, authorities plan to set up road checks on all main roads linking Bangkok with the provinces in order to prevent villagers from descending on the capital.

Some 10,000 anti-riot forces have been on a high state of readiness within their barracks for immediate deployment should the situation arise.

If the crowds turn unruly, the CNS is fully prepared to declare a state of emergency before deploying anti-riot forces.

Sansern said the CNS would implement crowd control measures step by step ranging from a verbal warning to a crack down. Authorities will invoke harsh suppression as a last resort, he added.

He dismissed speculation that the CNS might mobilise its own crowds to counter the protests, saying authorities have no plans to incite people to clash with one another.

In today's Cabinet meeting, CNS chairman General Sonthi Boonyaratglin is expected to brief ministers on the security plan.

Sonthi plans to dispatch military officers to reason with villagers and disgruntled farmers ahead of tomorrow's verdicts. The dispatched officers will focus on the North and the Northeast.

He is expected to personally supervise the plan and monitor all mass activities.

First Army Region commander Lt-General Prayuth Chan-ocha, has alerted all security officials in the capital to brace for possible disturbances caused by motorcycle taxi drivers.

The CNS is anticipating a highly volatile public mood should the Thai Rak Thai receive an unfavourable verdict.

As a precaution, it is braced for every possible scenario if the crowds turn unruly even though it has no hard evidence to suspect any plans to incite violence.

"Among the staunch Thai Rak Thai supporters are some 80,000 taxi drivers and about 100,000 motorcycle taxi drivers, there is no way to predict their reaction to the outcome of the judicial review," the CNS spokesman said.

He said authorities must be prepared for unforeseen circumstances even though a mere 200 taxi drivers might join the protests.

Hey,
I try to find a niceprice ticket from Bangkok-Bali-Bangkok. Is there someone with some experience on this trip?
I only found bussiness tickets and it is way too much for me. Someone knows about boats or alternative ways to get to Bali?
I heard someone said it is budget flights possibilities with some new agencys like Ryanair and Easyjet. Someone with more information?

[QUOTE=1Ball]It may very well be; however with Charlie's interest in poon, if it came from anyone in the Sheen family, my money would be on Charlie. ;)

(unless you are talking about a line in a movie.)[/QUOTE]Yeah, I meant Charlie. No offense to Martin. I'm sure he's never seena hooker.

Dick1,

You could try Air Asia, they Bkk to KL and KL to DPS(Bali)

Or Try Tiger Airways.

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]HK Dog,

By the way, have you even used an escort service before?

AT2[/QUOTE]


Yes, in other parts of the world but would never dream of using one in BKK. I have married friends (who are seriously long cash and therefore cost no an issue) who are forced to use them. They see the girls I normally pick up in BKK and attest the quality from the Escort agencies are poor compared to my 'dates'.

Like I said before, but I would not call them Escort but really Pimp services, do exist in BKK for top quality. It is not going to be found by public knowledge such as the phone book.

Keep your heads down.

[QUOTE=Dick1]Hey,
I try to find a niceprice ticket from Bangkok-Bali-Bangkok. Is there someone with some experience on this trip?
I only found bussiness tickets and it is way too much for me. Someone knows about boats or alternative ways to get to Bali?
I heard someone said it is budget flights possibilities with some new agencys like Ryanair and Easyjet. Someone with more information?[/QUOTE]
Dick1, if you are in BKK, you might be able to find a R/T on TG for about 10,000 Baht, depending on the time of year. Check with a travel agent there. I doubt you will find this fare online. PM me for a good travel agent if you are not in town.
If you have time to burn, you can fly Air Asia BKK to KUL, then KUL to DPS. The problem is Air Asia doesn't provide straight through flights, so you have to clear customs in KUL, then check in again, and go through immigration again. I did it once, never again, but of course YMMV. Also beware of the taxes Air Asia charges, the price of the ticket might look great, until you add everything up.

[QUOTE=Dick1]Hey,
I try to find a niceprice ticket from Bangkok-Bali-Bangkok. Is there someone with some experience on this trip?
I only found bussiness tickets and it is way too much for me. Someone knows about boats or alternative ways to get to Bali?
I heard someone said it is budget flights possibilities with some new agencys like Ryanair and Easyjet. Someone with more information?[/QUOTE]

Air France has one going to Denpasar that stops in Singapore on it's way from Paris. Shop the travel agencies in the Arab Section across from Nana.

[QUOTE=BuleDaddy]Air France has one going to Denpasar that stops in Singapore on it's way from Paris. Shop the travel agencies in the Arab Section across from Nana.[/QUOTE]
Unless I am talking out of my ass, (and it has been known to happen) AF does NOT fly to DPS at all. Just checked their website, before making this sweeping comment, and there are no flights.
Of course, they might codeshare with someone, but they do not use their own metal to fly there. If it goes BKK SIN DPS, it is probably SQ or GA.

The gf finally left to go home. This left me with some time on my hands, as I had planned to make a side trip for four days.

On the last trip, I had met up with a girl called Sai from the Genesis bar, end of Soi 11. Very presentable. So I called to meet her for a coffee. But she would only meet me at the bar. So I went there reasonably early. We had a nice talk, but when I asked about long time, she would not stay later than 5 am as she has to look after her son. Also, I had thought of taking her with me on the side trip, but with her kid, not possible. So we agreed top part ways. A pity, I think she would have been a great gfe.

Next, met up with a lady friend, who introduced me to a regular, local woman, miss S, shy, very presentable, very little English. This presented me with a problem, as I reckoned that if I took her on, it would be the usual attachments etc. So we all agreed to go for dinner. Nice evening, then we all went home, very respectable, no further action that night.

Last backup was miss L who I had met at the Beer Garden on the last trip. I had called her a few times before coming, so she was expecting me. Texts back and forth, long drawn out process. I figured that she was working the bar looking for a better offer, with me as a backup. We finally agreed, and she came over. Good fun, dynamic and energetic, good body, great large B cup, in very good shape for one kid. And she loves to fuck, any way. So we romped a few times. She took off at 7 am to get to work in a clothing factory. She has an interesting technique of lying me on my back, standing over me, then squatting, but bending forward, so that her whole upper body is flat, horizontal, and a couple of inches above mine. Very nice to slip the sausage in and pound. Makes her come, very tight fit, great view. What a way to fuck. And she did it a few times. Loves me to lick her out till she comes again.

Texted her next evening. Same extended bargaining, so I walked over to the beer garden to find her. She was chatting up another guy, but not doing well. Told her I was there, and over she came. We went for something to eat as she was hungry, then back to the hotel for a repeat of the previous nights rompings. Very satisfying, good fun, a few laughs, expertly drained me of all remaining essential bodily fluids. Then off to work again at 7 am.

This is just such a fantastic place. The body becomes alive. All day with the prick at full or part erection, ready for action, as you walk round town, eat lunch, or travel in the train. Forget the bullshit and stress back home. As much sex as you want, how you want, when you want. The white male is not a second class citizen like at home. What a life.

[QUOTE=Bob Down]Hi all,

Can someone please explain to me why their are so many men out there willing to send money half way arcoss the world to a girl that is still getting fucked by a different man everyday. I know a girl in bkk that asks for 1500 ST and 3000 LT, and you either like it or lump it because she doesn't need the money.

[/QUOTE]

Those prices are not so outrageous, if she is pretty why should she get shagged by old men for a pittance. ?????????

[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]Those prices are not so outrageous, if she is pretty why should she get shagged by old men for a pittance. ?????????[/QUOTE]

One would hope due to poverty. Remember, poverty is our friend, Jimmy.

I for one am pleased when pretty young girls must get shagged by old men for a pittance.

[QUOTE=Opebo]One would hope due to poverty. Remember, poverty is our friend, Jimmy.

I for one am pleased when pretty young girls must get shagged by old men for a pittance.[/QUOTE]


Not all Thai BG's are desperate, many earn more than a Doctor or Lawyer, good luck to them I say.

3 days in BKK included 2 visits to the Eden Club

Eden Club is located right near Nana Skytrain, about midway down Soi 7/1 on the right side (look for the metal sign painted with the red devil, just as you walk past the Paulaner beer bar).

On Monday, hit the Eden Club at 1.15pm. Eden Club is arguably the most Terma-like place in BKK. When you walk into the bar, the girls line up – there are about 30 working. Ones to the left of the yellow line painted on the wall do anal, ones to the right don’t. You pick one girl, she takes a friend, and you go up to a nice terma-style room for some 2 v. 1 action. 3600 baht all-in, for 90 mins and guaranteed 2 pops. The girls are “kinky” by BKK standards – they use toys on each other and on you (if you like). They also seem to have genuinely good attitudes, and do "nice" things like wash you in the shower and towel you off. I had a great time. On my way out, the owner (the French guy) gave me a free water. Props to him, as I just dropped 3600 baht plus 200 each to tip the girls.

According to the owner, best time to come is either just after 1pm when they open (as there are a lot of girls) -- or between 7pm - 9pm when many customers are out to dinner, and there are more girls. They also do "take away" service after 10pm: 3000 baht buys you all night with one of the girls. That's a pretty good deal.

Tuesday - hit Eden Club again around 1.30pm. Another good 2 girl session, with one of the same girls from day before (“Waa”), who really knows her way around a strap-on. Hung out at the bar for about 15 minutes afterwards. The bar girl actually charged me for a bottle of water, as well as a glass of coca-cola. Which kind of pissed me off. Granted, they need to make $$, I understand that. But if you just spent 3600 baht there, and tipped the girls each 200-300 baht, it would be nice to at least not be charged 70 baht for the glass of coke they pour you from a 2 ltr. Bottle. *shrug*

Overall, a great place. Highly recommended. They actually have a spiral notbook at the bar where customers leave comments -- check it out, it's a fun read.

Cartman

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BKK (city, not the airport) - security

Grungthep had a noticeable police presence last week - inspections at the subway entrances (bags, backpacks, etc). More "roaming" gendarmarie evident as well. Paranoia? Probably not.

With the banning of the TRT party it might escalate into a "hotter" situation.

Extra information -

A possible solution to a notable rip-off - it's possible depending on time of day to get an "ordinary" BUS from the public bus centre to downtown for 35B or so (instead of the 400B taxi ride - they ALL cost 400B INBOUND right now) or the 150B express bus ride. Yes a bit more time but lot lower cost. If you are going to the Nana area, try #553 (might be 533 or 353 - I didn't write down the bus number) that goes to Victory Monument. Get off somewhere before the monument and take a cab the rest of the way for maybe 45B. (77B total I seem to remember) I'm not sure if the bus runs all night - it might and it sure beats waiting for the express bus that seems to never leave (last one at about 11pm or so). Going back out the meter cab fare was 170B from Asoke BTS station. I SWEAR BKK taxi drivers are masters of the art of rip-off though. No meter, no go! Seems also that even with an agreed negotiated fare, that amount seems to be "raised" when you get there (meter is ALWAYS cheaper) IF you are heading south (Trat, Chantaburi, in between) the busses leave Ekkamai until about midnite - but it would put you into Trat about 430AM after leaving midnite. No idea of how to ride the bus back out TO the airport though, except for the airport bus and i didn't figure out when it STARTS (so those of you with 6am departures, it might be "difficult" - just use a cab)

For those of you who get hungry at the airport before departure, go down to the first floor and then go in the direction of traffic to the food court. (literally the last door straight ahead before the wall on the south side of the terminal. pretty much right by the taxi stand but inside the terminal. Don't go outside - the door is inside. Prices are only a little higher than "street" prices in BKK - most dishes are in the 30 to 40B range - a few higher. (food service aimed at the locals - you need to like Thai food since NO western food is available) Buy "coupons" at the desk right inside the door. No baggage trolleys allowed inside, but individual bags are allowed. What you don't spend, you can get refunded on the way out (for those who remember the system at Royal Asia in Pattaya, it's similar but they don't use the cards - just coupons. 100B (about $3 US) will get you pretty much anything on their various menus. In the "normal" restaurants in the rest of the terminal, 100B won't buy much (besides, the food is "better" where the locals go, anyway)

Yes, I'm "frugal"

Can anyone tell me where I can buy generic Levitra (Vardenafil) in Bangkok, Pattaya, or Chiang Mai?

Wed May 24

The flight from Delhi landed at SVU at 5:10 in the morning. Walk to the Immigration was the usual mile walk. Exiting thru the immigration this Indian dude asks me where the luggage was. We were at Carousal 18. I said look up on the board and sure enough the sign says luggage is on no.8 all the way to the other end. (seems to me that Thai has a perverse pleasure to promote very cheap flights from India to BKK and then making you run around the whole airport).

Anyway I pointed out to him which signs to look at and where to go. He mentions that it is first time for him. First time in a plane, I thought. As we go past carousal 12, there are luggage on it and he stops to check for his luggage. No, I say to him #8 not #12. He starts following me and I ask, you have friends meeting you. No, he says, but how do you get to the Gurduwara (a Sikh temple)

As we walked thru the customs, he gets called out for inspection. I just kept going through. As I left him, I though. Man, this guy comes in for cheap stay, food and pussies. But he is going to get royally screwed by the ladies and the LBs. It;s going to be an expensive learning trip for him.

Yeah, I am a Bestard. No sympathy for the illiterate going on world travels.

More reports to follow.

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Anyone know where the Sea True Bar is? Sounds like a Bar/Restaurant with some eye candy. The Sea True seems to be a play on "See Through". Nothing on the thread search and not much or at least no address on the Google search.

AT2[/QUOTE]

Yo AT2,
Well, there's this from Google:
Zees Zone
Ramkhamhaeng Soi 89/2
Phone: (0) 86733 - 8273
Large popular local style pub/disco located where Dude/Sea True used to be in the Lamsari complex. Upmarket decor, mostly local and student crowd, mostly Thai/remix music. Does not get going till late.

This was from a gay listing. The pics don't look like ladyboys to me though. I've never heard of it.

Cheers,
Sean

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Anyone know where the Sea True Bar is? Sounds like a Bar/Restaurant with some eye candy. The Sea True seems to be a play on "See Through". Nothing on the thread search and not much or at least no address on the Google search.

AT2[/QUOTE]

The left one is for sure a Ladyboy!

[QUOTE=Sean_Double]Yo AT2,
Well, there's this from Google:
Zees Zone
Ramkhamhaeng Soi 89/2
Phone: (0) 86733 - 8273
Large popular local style pub/disco located where Dude/Sea True used to be in the Lamsari complex. Upmarket decor, mostly local and student crowd, mostly Thai/remix music. Does not get going till late.

This was from a gay listing. The pics don't look like ladyboys to me though. I've never heard of it.

Cheers,
Sean[/QUOTE]

Sean,

Yeah, I saw that on Google, but was not sure if that was it. The one on the left makes me think they could both be LB's. Probably best to move on and find another topic! LOL!

AT2

started out [b]soi 8: [/b] all the little massage shops were open, aviva was closed (can understand why, they aren't even busy on regular days) but pornvillai massage (across from aviva) was open.

walked a little farther to inspect the girlies at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]: closed. mmhhh no sucking tonight.

as i walked out soi 8, a tuktuk hustler asks "where you go? " "massage? " i chuckle and decide to stay with the man. i ask him "where? which massage? " he then asks me if i am on holiday or not? i tell him not and he says "you don't know this massage, very good ladies", i insist "where? " he tells me "only for thai people, only thai people go" i laugh and ask "if only thai people, why you take me? " he is a little speechless but recovers quickly "but i say you my friend and we can go" hahaha i laugh and after another few minutes he tells me the name: j-one, thanks but no thanks. see ya.

he grabs me back and asks: "where you go, i take you" i tell him i am going to nep and he says "today buda holiday, nep, cowboy, patpong, all closed" i laughed hard and told him i was at sc earlier and they assured me 80% of the bars would be open and even serving liquor.

i moved on and walked down to soi [b]7/1: [/b] eden was closed and the other little bars were open but not to my taste.

[b]soi 7: [/b]went down to bg7, had a look, the usual typical customers and the girls did not look very good.

[b]soi 5: [/b] gullivers was booming, nice action, nice girls and same story: loads of farangs drinking beer.

did not feel like going to nep so i went to [b]soi oily (24/1): [/b] walked the whole soi and i can assure you of 1 thing: angel has got to be the most popular oily in bangkok.

i passed the whole bunch of teens, matsutake, rynda, menthol etc. (there is even a pizza joint there now) and they all had loads of girls outside, bored and screaming for you to come for a massage. all massage had girls outside, all but not 1: angels. angels had about 10 japanese blokes smoking outside (wow, that's a different welcome bunch lol), i entered, just out of curiosity. well, there must have been another 20 japs inside, waiting on sofas, smoking, talking, looking at the book. when i approached the counter, the lady (that knows me) gave me a sad look and pointed at the japanese: many people waiting for room, maybe 2 hour for wait (god damn! ) that meant all of their 31 rooms were already full and another 30+ people waiting. wow, angels is surely popular.

[b]soi 24: [/b] lotus was closed (well, who cares anyway, this place is dead by now), orient was open, pink was open but i did not even consider it reading the negative reviews lately.

took a mototaxi to [b]soi22: [/b] hana massage was open, kornwan was open (very difficult to notice them at night, they have no glowing sign, you could easily miss it), lavender was open and nuan also.

decided to go to [b]sc: [/b] afterskool, shark were closed, the other gogos seemed open. did not even think about trying jj, fannys, toy and moonshine (no reason to go there anymore) so i ended up in sw (suzie wong). had 1 beer and left (talent was below average, way below). long gun was ok, dollhouse was soso, our place was open but i did not check it out.

i was on my way home when a hostess from baccara reeled me in (she was a stunner), i told her that i would have a drink with her and then go home. she was very nice, her face was adorable (as well as her ass), stayed with her for 2 drinks and she was a lovely conversationist. when i told her i was going home, she asked me if she could come because she is lonely and she like me (yeah yeah yeah, that's the first time i hear that one).

strange enough, it's not that late and she insists on lt. she says that she could have st and come back to have another but she wants to go lt with me. fine, who am i to refuse spending more time with this cutie (now hopefully she's as energetic in bed as she is in the bar).

went back to my condo and she started to make herself comfortable (like it was her home), it was certainly funny to watch. she was getting acquainted with the place and was amazed by its size. it's a 2 bedroom, high floor with a very nice view, she asked me " how can young man like you work in thailand have apartment nice like this? " (expensive but since the company is paying for it, why not take a nice place). i usually don't like to bring girls back to my place for the simple reason that i don't want them to show up out of the blue when they need a place to crash, are drunk or for whatever other reason, but this bird was different, given she'd only go lt, i wasn't going to book a hotel room.

she opened the fridge and claimed she was hungry, i offered to go buy something outside but she insisted we open the ice cream box i had. ok honey, knock yourself out.

she sat on the sofa and watched tv for a while, eating the ice cream right out of the box. i went to shower and she soon followed "why you shower without me? " well, i didn't have an answer to that and was pretty dumbfounded. she grabbed the shower cream and started to wash me, she wouldn't allow me to wash myself, i think she wanted to show me she was the one controlling the pace of the action and that was fine by me.

things got really hot in the shower and i had to fight hard not to fuck her in there, bareback. she was playing with me rubbing her pussy against the tip of my cock and she could see in my eyes that i was dying to insert it (i think she took an evil pleasure in doing this).

sex was great, but with the kind of foreplay and her beauty, i couldn't hold for long. after i shot, i was still rock hard and she did not need any other invitation: cleaned the stick, covered it and impaled herself on it. second time took long but i could see she did not mind.

after sex, we showered again and she got hungry, we munched on potato chips and drank ice tea while watching tv. the way she cuddled herself with me felt like she has been my girlfriend for years, she eventually fell asleep and i carried her over to the bed.

morning was early for me (work) and i was too tired for another sex performance so i woke her and asked her to get ready. she asked if she could stay and wait for me until i came back but being the cautious prick i am, i told her that i couldn't do that. she understood and went to get ready. damn she looked good in that lingerie! unbelievably tough inner fight between my big and small brain over a morning sex session, but the big brain prevailed.

got her her money and sent her home, she asked me for my phone number (which i never give) but took hers, she asked me if she could come by tomorrow (today) if she feels lonely, i was very evasive and this is exactly the reason why i hate bringing girls to my condo.

call me crazy, but i hope she doesn't show up.

but if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do i have to pay her or something? maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. i know very well about massage joints and etiquette but what about bars and these situations? i am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.

all in all, i'd say it was a good evening and a great night.

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Sorry, you give THB 200 tip and you are upset to get charged for drinks. Girls call that a 'cheap charly'.

JB.


[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]3 days in BKK included 2 visits to the Eden Club

Eden Club is located right near Nana Skytrain, about midway down Soi 7/1 on the right side (look for the metal sign painted with the red devil, just as you walk past the Paulaner beer bar).

On Monday, hit the Eden Club at 1.15pm. Eden Club is arguably the most Terma-like place in BKK. When you walk into the bar, the girls line up – there are about 30 working. Ones to the left of the yellow line painted on the wall do anal, ones to the right don’t. You pick one girl, she takes a friend, and you go up to a nice terma-style room for some 2 v. 1 action. 3600 baht all-in, for 90 mins and guaranteed 2 pops. The girls are “kinky” by BKK standards – they use toys on each other and on you (if you like). They also seem to have genuinely good attitudes, and do "nice" things like wash you in the shower and towel you off. I had a great time. On my way out, the owner (the French guy) gave me a free water. Props to him, as I just dropped 3600 baht plus 200 each to tip the girls.

According to the owner, best time to come is either just after 1pm when they open (as there are a lot of girls) -- or between 7pm - 9pm when many customers are out to dinner, and there are more girls. They also do "take away" service after 10pm: 3000 baht buys you all night with one of the girls. That's a pretty good deal.

Tuesday - hit Eden Club again around 1.30pm. Another good 2 girl session, with one of the same girls from day before (“Waa”), who really knows her way around a strap-on. Hung out at the bar for about 15 minutes afterwards. The bar girl actually charged me for a bottle of water, as well as a glass of coca-cola. Which kind of pissed me off. Granted, they need to make $$, I understand that. But if you just spent 3600 baht there, and tipped the girls each 200-300 baht, it would be nice to at least not be charged 70 baht for the glass of coke they pour you from a 2 ltr. Bottle. *shrug*

Overall, a great place. Highly recommended. They actually have a spiral notbook at the bar where customers leave comments -- check it out, it's a fun read.

Cartman

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[QUOTE=Anonymous]
The best place to try your luck after bar closing time is the Bamboo Bar. Its almost in front of Grace hotel in Soi 3. Good live band and dancing and the drinks are reasonable specially the tequila. All the Russian girls that did not have customers in CM2 or other bars heading to this bar and many Thai girls that didn't find a customer can be had at discount rates. They close about 5 am.
[/QUOTE]

It's been a while, since I have hit the Bamboo Bar. I can't imagine they are still open to 5 am., but there were some nice finds there from time to time. Hit and miss, though.

AT2

Never seen it open at 5. 00am. Standard opening times are from 10. 00am. 1. 00am.

I usually stay at the Nana Inn Soi 3 (Not Nana Hotel where the cab drivers insist on taking me from the airport) which is a stones throw from the Bamboo Beer Bar.

A flying start to the tour is to get settled in at the hotel then stroll down to Annies soapy massage parlour (Soi 4) for a couple of hours then head into the Bamboo to check out the talent and collect a few telephone numbers.

Heaven Heaven Heaven

As an aside. Rather than Patpong, Nana Plaza and Cowboy bashing every night. My enjoyment mostly comes from hunting down the talent during afternoon shopping strolls around the Sukhumvit area. Amazing the quality what can be found readily available in and around the shopping malls.

On a note of caution, I had the misfortune of venturing into the elevated ground floor coffee shop area of the Grace Hotel last month only to find drugged out, used up, worn out Russian women for the price of 500 baht short time. Scarred me for life it did!

Hi all,

I tried both well known dungeon places in Bangkok, Chateau jade and Midori. Chateau Jade I found much more friendly and more exciting than Midori. However, both places do not offer any sexual practices.

Does anyone know a place where one gets a mixed treatment - painful pleasure combined with sex?

Please let me know. Thanks.

Regards,

Mich69

hi nicfrenchy,

good to see your posts again. not sure if i count as experienced lol, but my advise is, keep it clean. pay.

yes, i guess most of us rather not pay. i went through a similar situation before and i messed it all up by not paying. girl did not say anything, but the following time turned out awkward.

jb


[quote=nicfrenchy]started out [b]soi 8: [/b] all the little massage shops were open, aviva was closed (can understand why, they aren't even busy on regular days) but pornvillai massage (across from aviva) was open.

walked a little farther to inspect the girlies at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]: closed. mmhhh no sucking tonight.

as i walked out soi 8, a tuktuk hustler asks "where you go? " "massage? " i chuckle and decide to stay with the man. i ask him "where? which massage? " he then asks me if i am on holiday or not? i tell him not and he says "you don't know this massage, very good ladies", i insist "where? " he tells me "only for thai people, only thai people go" i laugh and ask "if only thai people, why you take me? " he is a little speechless but recovers quickly "but i say you my friend and we can go" hahaha i laugh and after another few minutes he tells me the name: j-one, thanks but no thanks. see ya.

he grabs me back and asks: "where you go, i take you" i tell him i am going to nep and he says "today buda holiday, nep, cowboy, patpong, all closed" i laughed hard and told him i was at sc earlier and they assured me 80% of the bars would be open and even serving liquor.

i moved on and walked down to soi [b]7/1: [/b] eden was closed and the other little bars were open but not to my taste.

[b]soi 7: [/b]went down to bg7, had a look, the usual typical customers and the girls did not look very good.

[b]soi 5: [/b] gullivers was booming, nice action, nice girls and same story: loads of farangs drinking beer.

did not feel like going to nep so i went to [b]soi oily (24/1): [/b] walked the whole soi and i can assure you of 1 thing: angel has got to be the most popular oily in bangkok.

i passed the whole bunch of teens, matsutake, rynda, menthol etc. (there is even a pizza joint there now) and they all had loads of girls outside, bored and screaming for you to come for a massage. all massage had girls outside, all but not 1: angels. angels had about 10 japanese blokes smoking outside (wow, that's a different welcome bunch lol), i entered, just out of curiosity. well, there must have been another 20 japs inside, waiting on sofas, smoking, talking, looking at the book. when i approached the counter, the lady (that knows me) gave me a sad look and pointed at the japanese: many people waiting for room, maybe 2 hour for wait (god damn! ) that meant all of their 31 rooms were already full and another 30+ people waiting. wow, angels is surely popular.

[b]soi 24: [/b] lotus was closed (well, who cares anyway, this place is dead by now), orient was open, pink was open but i did not even consider it reading the negative reviews lately.

took a mototaxi to [b]soi22: [/b] hana massage was open, kornwan was open (very difficult to notice them at night, they have no glowing sign, you could easily miss it), lavender was open and nuan also.

decided to go to [b]sc: [/b] afterskool, shark were closed, the other gogos seemed open. did not even think about trying jj, fannys, toy and moonshine (no reason to go there anymore) so i ended up in sw (suzie wong). had 1 beer and left (talent was below average, way below). long gun was ok, dollhouse was soso, our place was open but i did not check it out.

i was on my way home when a hostess from baccara reeled me in (she was a stunner), i told her that i would have a drink with her and then go home. she was very nice, her face was adorable (as well as her ass), stayed with her for 2 drinks and she was a lovely conversationist. when i told her i was going home, she asked me if she could come because she is lonely and she like me (yeah yeah yeah, that's the first time i hear that one).

strange enough, it's not that late and she insists on lt. she says that she could have st and come back to have another but she wants to go lt with me. fine, who am i to refuse spending more time with this cutie (now hopefully she's as energetic in bed as she is in the bar).

went back to my condo and she started to make herself comfortable (like it was her home), it was certainly funny to watch. she was getting acquainted with the place and was amazed by its size. it's a 2 bedroom, high floor with a very nice view, she asked me " how can young man like you work in thailand have apartment nice like this? " (expensive but since the company is paying for it, why not take a nice place). i usually don't like to bring girls back to my place for the simple reason that i don't want them to show up out of the blue when they need a place to crash, are drunk or for whatever other reason, but this bird was different, given she'd only go lt, i wasn't going to book a hotel room.

she opened the fridge and claimed she was hungry, i offered to go buy something outside but she insisted we open the ice cream box i had. ok honey, knock yourself out.

she sat on the sofa and watched tv for a while, eating the ice cream right out of the box. i went to shower and she soon followed "why you shower without me? " well, i didn't have an answer to that and was pretty dumbfounded. she grabbed the shower cream and started to wash me, she wouldn't allow me to wash myself, i think she wanted to show me she was the one controlling the pace of the action and that was fine by me.

things got really hot in the shower and i had to fight hard not to fuck her in there, bareback. she was playing with me rubbing her pussy against the tip of my cock and she could see in my eyes that i was dying to insert it (i think she took an evil pleasure in doing this).

sex was great, but with the kind of foreplay and her beauty, i couldn't hold for long. after i shot, i was still rock hard and she did not need any other invitation: cleaned the stick, covered it and impaled herself on it. second time took long but i could see she did not mind.

after sex, we showered again and she got hungry, we munched on potato chips and drank ice tea while watching tv. the way she cuddled herself with me felt like she has been my girlfriend for years, she eventually fell asleep and i carried her over to the bed.

morning was early for me (work) and i was too tired for another sex performance so i woke her and asked her to get ready. she asked if she could stay and wait for me until i came back but being the cautious prick i am, i told her that i couldn't do that. she understood and went to get ready. damn she looked good in that lingerie! unbelievably tough inner fight between my big and small brain over a morning sex session, but the big brain prevailed.

got her her money and sent her home, she asked me for my phone number (which i never give) but took hers, she asked me if she could come by tomorrow (today) if she feels lonely, i was very evasive and this is exactly the reason why i hate bringing girls to my condo.

call me crazy, but i hope she doesn't show up.

but if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do i have to pay her or something? maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. i know very well about massage joints and etiquette but what about bars and these situations? i am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.

all in all, i'd say it was a good evening and a great night.

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All the tims I been to Bangkok, never tried massage parlour, but this time took the courage to try one, and ended up at Teen massage on soi 33.
The girls were mostly on the 6 scale but I kinda took a liking to Nat with her ample tits.
Not bad service, french kissing, DATy and bit of rimming and she took full load in her sexy mouth, she was not keen for owo but I persuaded her with picture of the king.
I sneaked her contact tel no but time never permitted to do so.

Abse2

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Started out [b]Soi 8: [/b]
......

Got her her money and sent her home, she asked me for my phone number (which I never give) but took hers, she asked me if she could come by Tomorrow (today) if she feels lonely, I was very evasive and this is exactly the reason why I hate bringing girls to my condo.

Call me crazy, but I hope she doesn't show up.

But if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do I have to pay her or something? Maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. I know very well about Massage joints and etiquette but what about Bars and these situations? I am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.

All in all, I'd say it was a Good Evening and a GREAT night.
[/QUOTE]

Hey NicFrenchy,

Not being able to call me an expert in that, but some common sense may reach.

I am sure that you may not need to pay for it next time! But what does it mean?

The girl felt obviously comfortable in your environment. And I guess about 80% of them would feel the same, combined probably with a somehow nice attitude of you, with which I assume.

The girl sees a luxury apartment, a dream to live in. You may have behaved nice to her.
The result is, she will do the utmost to qualify (or come closer) to a ' more girlfriend status'. You are for sure the primary target for a longer relationship for many of the girls. Who of the girls will insist on any short minded money discussion at that time, given that chance? Sooner or later she will see (as she expects) a benefit out of that. Instead of direct payment for sex it would be indirect. Living in nice environment (sometimes), being somehow in another lifestyle (with some clothes occasionally, some diner etc.).
I expect it can be a nightmare and you have to decide which way you go.

If she is so hot that you want to bang her occasionally then I recommend to better pay her each time instead of sum it up. (Payment each time could be reduced by 500 baht - what by the way did you pay?- given a repeitive somehos stable income for her.)

It would indicate that it is still a business relationship and not a private one (for her it would be a business anyhow, just the 'private' would be more indirect payment/ payment in goods). Otherwise it can end in a nightmare.

I think overall experience here is that it is better to complete 'transactions' at a time and avoid any situation that somebody could potentially sum up somehow later.

Let us know your decision

Regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]...I think overall experience here is that it is better to complete 'transactions' at a time and avoid any situation that somebody could potentially sum up somehow later...[/QUOTE]I second your wise suggestion. If you don't complete transactions you build up obligations. And that's exactly what you don't want.

I once picked up a girl on Sukhumvit at 2 am who actively refused to accept any money I offered her. (Hard to believe, even for me now). It was kind of difficult to get out of this without trouble, but she is really nice and I managed finally without bad feelings from both sides. That only because I told her that I am married when we first met.

I agree with the comments from JB and Brian.

It is completly normal for a bargirl to behave like this in this type of situation. They are always on the lookout for a "boyfriend, but not" type guy who will give them a sense of security in their chaotic bargirl life.

Although for the most part I agree with JB's "when in doubt, pay" philosophy (as that will keep everything business orientated and eliminate any risk). There is a middle area between pure business and a realationship.

She obviously enjoys being around you, so there is a very good chance that if you see her again, money may not come up at all. If she is hot like you said, she makes plenty of money.

Does that mean she's your girlfriend? No

Does that mean you are automatically locked into some sort of commitment? No

I don't think she would just show up at your place without calling, but I suppose there is always a chance.

I deffinetly understand your concern and its warrented, but I'm just saying its completly possible to have a 'friendship' with a BG without things getting out of hand.

Keep us updated

(New here. Nice to meet you all, BTW.)

Thanks for the advance,

Much appreciated, from previous experiences I won't be mongering day and night every day will need to give myself time to recover evry couple of days! Will be booking all hotels etc before I come so spending will just be on the usual stuff. Can't say I would drink black label far to strong for my liking! Rather stick to a few beers!

Any recommendations on where I can go for the DDG girls, I've heard the pent club or hollywood club are quite good, anyone been there? Would like to treat myself and have atleast 1 DDG gal whilst I'm in BKK!

[QUOTE=Fox Two]In my opinion, £1600 will be more than enough for one short time/massage during the day, a LT during the evening and plenty left over for food/travel/incidental expenses, everyday for your entire trip. This assumes your tastes do not require absolute DDG model quality girls every night and your regular drink doesn't include large quantities of Old #7 Black Label or Don Julio Tequila Anejo.

Expect the asking price for LT to range from £31 for moderately attractive to £62 for model quality. What you actually pay will depend on your chemistry and your negotiating skills.

There are always women around. I was in LoS around July/August last year and the hunting was quite good. There's less competition since it's not the "high season" yet. The following reports describe how I experienced things during my visit:

Part 1:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=488232#post488232[/url]

Part 2:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=488546#post488546[/url]

Part 3:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=490984#post490984[/url]
Part 3 Addendum:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491340#post491340[/url]

Part 4:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491363#post491363[/url]

Part 5:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=497928#post497928[/url]

Part 5 has a list of my suggestions based on my experience/tastes/interests.

To add to that, I would comment that sex two/three times a day for 12 days straight can be pretty strenuous unless you have the lebido of a teenager or use some sort of "recreational pharmaceutical". You will probably have a day or two in there that you just want to rest alone and "recharge".

Cheers,

Fox Two[/QUOTE]

-But if she does, and we end up in bed fooling around, do I have to pay her or something? Maybe the more experienced mongers here can advise me. I know very well about Massage joints and etiquette but what about Bars and these situations? I am not looking for a relationship, and especially not with a bargirl.-

Hey Frenchy,

If you do not pay her EVERYTIME, you will pay a much, much higher price emotionally & maybe physically later.

Hey Mich,

Try BarBar in Patpong: [url]http://www.barbar-bangkok.com/home.html[/url]
I've never been there but it looks interesting. If you go, please give a report.

TKP1

[QUOTE=Mich69]Hi all,

I tried both well known dungeon places in Bangkok, Chateau jade and Midori. Chateau Jade I found much more friendly and more exciting than Midori. However, both places do not offer any sexual practices.

Does anyone know a place where one gets a mixed treatment - painful pleasure combined with sex?

Please let me know. Thanks.

Regards,

Mich69[/QUOTE]

If you want a guarantee DDG, your best bet is to go to MP like Utopia. Go to the high end level and pick a girl. The MP usually close at 11pm. You can always make a side deal with them for after work activity.

Girls are not easy to pick up in places like Hollywood if you can not speak Thai. DDG is a matter of taste. If you are looking for semi pro, the local usually go to the coffee house at the Siam Hotel in Petchaburi or the In Love coffee house in Ratchadapisek area. This is usually where my colleagues take me when I am in BKK.

The Thai men prefer more fair skin girls. If this is your taste then the above recommendation will hold. If you prefer the dark skin girls, then any of the bars in Sukhumvit lower Soi area will be the place to be.

The local Thai girls who like to party usually hangs out in the Soi 55 Thonglor area in Sukhumvit.

Good luck and good hunting.

[QUOTE=Jayk007]Thanks for the advance,

Much appreciated, from previous experiences I won't be mongering day and night every day will need to give myself time to recover evry couple of days! Will be booking all hotels etc before I come so spending will just be on the usual stuff. Can't say I would drink black label far to strong for my liking! Rather stick to a few beers!

Any recommendations on where I can go for the DDG girls, I've heard the pent club or hollywood club are quite good, anyone been there? Would like to treat myself and have atleast 1 DDG gal whilst I'm in BKK![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jayk007]
Any recommendations on where I can go for the DDG girls, I've heard the pent club or hollywood club are quite good, anyone been there? Would like to treat myself and have atleast 1 DDG gal whilst I'm in BKK![/QUOTE]

I have been to the Pent. Quite nice and great selection of girls (100+, by rough estimate). Well worth the look. The place is loud, at least in the stage area. There's a band. There's also alot of people talking.

There's a pool area that you past through, to get to a back bar area, where there are many more girls. I have never seen that pool in use. Too bad. Lot's of bodies I would not mind seeing in a Bikini.

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thanks guys. i really appreciate your help.

i saw her a second time and we had as much fun as the first.

it's funny because i initially offered st and she refused, she said she wants lt and insisted we go to my place.

we did and it was great. the guard at the entrance was asleep (mouth open) when we arrived and even the noise from her heels did not even wake him up.

paid her 2000 (same as last time) and she accepted it (normal since i got her from the bar).

we talked a little about each other and i told her i am a big butterfly, she giggled and said she knows because she saw me many times in cowboy, she even told me she saw me go out with some baccara girls.

how the hell do these girls do it? where do they store all the memories? i was speechless but happy she understood this would never go past the client-provider relationship... or maybe she has set herself a goal of trying to corrupt me? lol

i did buy a new 1000 thb crappy cellphone @ mbk and have a prepaid card in it, i gave her the number in case. first time i do this, but i don't care, if it gets out of hand, i’ll just throw away the sim card.