Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok

[quote=giotto]tansak ktv,

don't worry about external disagreements ... we are used to that.

but your description of the actual problems of international politics made me think. there was a meeting between a high ranking (female) isaan politician and the (female) president of livingstone's yesterday [whilst i had to listen to the stories of those phuquer / nicfrenchy bestards :)].

it first seamed to be a standard information exchange, but the meeting somehow got heated in a later stage. the kitchen had to bring some tools to the table: 2 knifes for potato peeling, a butcher blade and a steak hammer. they then ordered a huge number of medium sized green cucumbers and potatoes, and somehow practiced an kind of ritual:

every time they took one cucumber and two potatoes (god knows why). then they started the ritual with peeling those vegetables. afterwards one of them took the butcher blade chopped the peeled cucumber into tiny slices, while the other one took the steak hammer in both hands (!) and smashed the peeled potatoes on the table (two loud bangs !!!) ...

after each ritual both of those ladies looked towards nicfrency and phuquer, or was it towards me - difficult to say :). disturbung was, that they looked quite angry :( ...

they conducted the ritual about 20 - 30 times ... hmmm, it was something like a training session methinks.

anyway - somehow everything calmed down later, and we had a special dinner: mashed potatoes with cucumber salad :) .

i don't think you have to be too worried about any political tensions :d !


giotto[/quote]


i think it is definitely time for an oceania / thailand / german night out or day out....

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I think it is definitely time for an Oceania / Thailand / German night out or day out....[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

Wait - I think you mean an Oceania / German meeting IN Thailand, right :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

Wait - I think you mean an Oceania / German meeting IN Thailand, right :) ?

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Well you can go with Auntie if you like but I sure was hoping to include at least some thai girl in the mix for me...

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,
...[whilst I had to listen to the stories of those Phuquer / NicFrenchy BESTARDS :)].
[/QUOTE]
I'm not a BESTARD, I'm a Phuqing Bestard! But I enjoyed the stories.

[QUOTE=Giotto]
After each ritual both of those ladies looked towards NicFrency and Phuquer, or was it towards me - difficult to say :). Disturbung was, that they looked quite angry :( ...
[/QUOTE]
Hmmm....Who is the High Ranking Issan Politician? Not the waitress that serves me everyday? I think she's very cute. But if she's looking at me while smashing a cucumber, I think I'll keep my distance from her.

NicFrenchy, it was awesome to meet you, too. You ARE the man with the plan! It was really an honor to buy you a drink. I am really looking forward to hanging out with you on my next trip, perhaps next year. Take care.[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Hi Phuquer,

It was really a pleasure to meet you yesterday.
I did not get a change to thank you in person for paying my drink, I realised when they brought me my bill (it was too low to be true) so Thanks a lot.

I will return the favor next time we meet (probably your next trip)

Cheers
Nic[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Giotto]There was a meeting between a high ranking (female) Isaan politician and the (female) President of Livingstone's yesterday[/QUOTE]

This meeting wasn't with [b]the[/b] politician with the island troubles was it? If so, I'd think ranking officers may need to be concerned around ducks.

[QUOTE=Stiffoak 571] Ok she isn't at the Lodge when I arrive in 4 weeks then I do something different (to find the new Tack would be wrong way to go about things)

Ps you have a very good memory for these things from a year ago. I remember my first evening at the Lodge not sure if I'd know anyone and finding I was sat next to you and Mick![/QUOTE]

PM and let me know if you need her mobile number - my wingman usually calls her ahead of time to make his 'booking' :)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]PM and let me know if you need her mobile number - my wingman usually calls her ahead of time to make his 'booking' :)[/QUOTE]

Better check to make sure it's her new number, her old one was off.

Dammit!!! I am hating the Lodge at the moment...

I am seating at the Boss's table, working, drinking, waiting for him to finish his nap.

Now what bothers me is that the Smell from the Kitchen is soooo good that I am Hungry!!! and I can't eat because I have a dinner/date tonight. To top it off, tonight is the Pool Party adn my date just isn't the kind I can bring here to meet all you Bestards!

I envy these customers by the pool, waiting to enjoy their food... it certainly smells delicious

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Dammit!!! I am hating the Lodge at the moment...

I am seating at the Boss's table, working, drinking, waiting for him to finish his nap.

Now what bothers me is that the Smell from the Kitchen is soooo good that I am Hungry!!! and I can't eat because I have a dinner/date tonight. To top it off, tonight is the Pool Party adn my date just isn't the kind I can bring here to meet all you Bestards!
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[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,

LOL!

No nap today, I was out for 2 hours ...

We arranged all that only for you! More torture for you - after just came back from the "Fire & Ice" torture directly to the Lodge! We are all waiting for part II of the story :) !!!


Giotto

PS: It might also be good to lose some weight :D !

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I think it is definitely time for an Oceania / Thailand / German night out or day out....[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

Our future :) ?

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfPyyIHob0&feature=related[/URL]


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

Our future :) ?

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfPyyIHob0&feature=related[/URL]


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Don't know about you but I'm damn close to that stage...

If you see a lady with a knife chasing a guy around LL in March well then "Hi, I'm Tansak KTV.. Damn Glad to meet you..."

OH and if there are two ladies chasing guys with knives... I'm the shorter fatter one... Giotto is the taller skinner one...

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...
OH and if there are two ladies chasing guys with knives... I'm the shorter fatter one... Giotto is the taller skinner one...[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

That will most likely not happen.

I am a faithful husband, I have no intention to see any other woman, and my wife has nothing to complain :) !!!


Giotto

PS: Let's meet up at the flower shop once you arrive in Bangkok :) !

[QUOTE=Giotto]PS: Let's meet up at the flower shop once you arrive in Bangkok :) ![/QUOTE]

Count me in, Of course only to rent err I mean buy some tulips err I mean rose err I mean flowers for the the wives.

Ah what the hell I already told mine I'm going for a massage so I'm toast anyways... I'm going to a Massage Parlor then I'll meet you for a drink afterwards...

Just can't decided which one....

I hear you can get guitar lessons at that flower shop. And of course the jade there is exquisite. hahahaha.

-F2

[QUOTE=Fox Two]I hear you can get guitar lessons at that flower shop. And of course the jade there is exquisite. hahahaha.

-F2[/QUOTE]

The Guitar Teacher left for a while so I had to cancel that plan even though she might be available for more full time private tutoring. I could try learning how to hum in C minor for a while.

I'm thinking about getting my nails done from a nice little saloon worker I picked up the other day...

But roses are beautiful this time of year also so it's a difficult choice.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

Our future :) ?

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfPyyIHob0&feature=related[/URL]


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Damn, now I'll never get any sleep in Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]The Guitar Teacher left for a while so I had to cancel that plan even though she might be available for more full time private tutoring. I could try learning how to hum in C minor for a while.

I'm thinking about getting my nails done from a nice little saloon worker I picked up the other day...

But roses are beautiful this time of year also so it's a difficult choice.[/QUOTE]
Although the [i]Guitar[/i] lessons have stopped, I wouldn't mind a short [i]Tuk[/i]-Tuk trip to the flower shop soon (in 3 weeks) as the flowers are good in [i]April, May and June[/i]. I hear there is a [i]Teena[/i]ger serving [i]Nestle[/i] chocolates there, with [i]Nice C[/i]'s, who will go [i]Far[/i].
I personally I have [i]Bee[/i]n looking for an egg-[i]Yok[/i] coloured [i]Tulip, Rose[/i] or Canna Lily to put by the win[i]Dow[/i]. Is a Can[i]Na dea[/i]r?

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Although the [i]Guitar[/i] lessons have stopped, I wouldn't mind a short [i]Tuk[/i]-Tuk trip to the flower shop soon (in 3 weeks) as the flowers are good in [i]April, May and June[/i]. I hear there is a [i]Teena[/i]ger serving [i]Nestle[/i] chocolates there, with [i]Nice C[/i]'s, who will go [i]Far[/i].
I personally I have [i]Bee[/i]n looking for an egg-[i]Yok[/i] coloured [i]Tulip, Rose[/i] or Canna Lily to put by the win[i]Dow[/i]. Is a Can[i]Na dea[/i]r?[/QUOTE]

Damn I wonder how many folks are understanding these posts... I followed every friggin word, what's sad is that I've tasted most. NIC PM some more details about other shops, be damned the risk of knives and wives....

Giotto.. better employ more and better armed security for March, get that back door and escape routes better planed out. Maybe put an emergency escape hatch at the pool area on the roof.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Damn I wonder how many folks are understanding these posts... I followed every friggin word, [/QUOTE]
It's funny you should mention this. Reading this over the past few days, I have been able to follow most of it, even though I haven't visited this flower shop. I have been asking myself what are people thinking, when they open this thread, in the hope of getting info on LL. They must obviously think everyone is quite crazy. ;)

[QUOTE=1Ball]It's funny you should mention this. Reading this over the past few days, I have been able to follow most of it, even though I haven't visited this flower shop. I have been asking myself what are people thinking, when they open this thread, in the hope of getting info on LL. They must obviously think everyone is quite crazy. ;)[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

We should discuss taking over a/the flower shop. Let's put it on the agenda of the next board meeting :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=1Ball]They must obviously think everyone is quite crazy. ;)[/QUOTE]

You think your older brother is actually sane??? HAHAHA... I've fooled you all these years...

And don't worry, I already figured I'll BF the girl that get's BF'd the least amount in LL just to be a nice guy and take one for the team...

[QUOTE=1Ball]It's funny you should mention this. Reading this over the past few days, I have been able to follow most of it, even though I haven't visited this flower shop. I have been asking myself what are people thinking, when they open this thread, in the hope of getting info on LL. They must obviously think everyone is quite crazy. ;)[/QUOTE]

Well I have not been to Thailand yet, but I have followed this discussion at least I think I have, that just proves I have been reading this site way too much....

Wizard

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

We should discuss taking over a/the flower shop. Let's put it on the agenda of the next board meeting :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Taking over the flower shop. What a concept. we could roll up, guns blazing, and stage a "coup".

Where on earth is the TQM when you need him? Asleep at the wheel on the I-10 ? ;)

Giotto,

The last time I was in Bangkok was in 1991 and used a tailor called Green Apple in the arcade next to what is now the Intercontinental Hotel, across the street from the Hyatt Grand Erawan. By any chance, do you know if the Green Apple tailors are still in business.

My searches on the internet indicate they were still around until 2006 or so, but nothing since then. I had a couple of suits, shirts and pant made there that are still in used today, though just barely. I was thinking of passing through Bangkok if they were still there to get some new clothes.

Thank you,

Rodwint

[QUOTE=1Ball].................................

Where on earth is the TQM when you need him? Asleep at the wheel on the I-10 ? ;)[/QUOTE]
No, Mr. VP, on I-15 North on the way to Las Vegas, the Sin City. :)

A bloomy a day keeps the gloomy away :D


PS: Studying the guidelines on how to downsize pics...

[QUOTE=Rodwint2]Giotto,

The last time I was in Bangkok was in 1991 and used a tailor called Green Apple in the arcade next to what is now the Intercontinental Hotel, across the street from the Hyatt Grand Erawan. By any chance, do you know if the Green Apple tailors are still in business.
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[/QUOTE]Rodwint2,

Sorry, I have no idea.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...
Giotto.. better employ more and better armed security for March, get that back door and escape routes better planed out. Maybe put an emergency escape hatch at the pool area on the roof.[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

I just talked to our "friends at the army" - they will place a tank in front of the entrance ... that should be sufficient.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

I just talked to our "friends at the army" - they will place a tank in front of the entrance ... that should be sufficient.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Yeah yeah yeah.... every other time I come to Thailand there is something about tanks and shutting airports... Phuket my August / Sept Trip ... Suvarnabhumi my November / december....

November and Jan were pretty quiet so I guess March we are due for another issue. :) Better warn folks now that there could be issues....

My work never believes that I get "Stuck" in Thailand so much.

[QUOTE=1Ball]It's funny you should mention this. Reading this over the past few days, I have been able to follow most of it, even though I haven't visited this flower shop.[/QUOTE]
You haven't visited this flower shop?
Nor did I, thinking it was too crazy, until NicFrenchy said it was just about criminal to have never been there.
So reluctantly I made the effort and found a simply lovely Holland flower arrangement.
Ended up with egg-[i]Yolk[/i] all over my face, but no matter, I thoroughly enjoying the sowing and cultivation, that left me exhausted.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Yeah yeah yeah. Every other time I come to Thailand there is something about tanks and shutting airports. Phuket my August / Sept Trip. Suvarnabhumi my November / December.

November and Jan were pretty quiet so I guess March we are due for another issue. Better warn folks now that there could be issues.

My work never believes that I get "Stuck" in Thailand so much.[/QUOTE]Reds on the March. Wait till they arrest Taksin and try to get him back into country. Won't be much room at the airport that day! I know the PM has got a new law banning taking over airport but will it work?

[QUOTE=Stiffoak 571]Reds on the March. Wait till they arrest Taksin and try to get him back into country. Won't be much room at the airport that day! I know the PM has got a new law banning taking over airport but will it work?[/QUOTE]

I've been watching with interest. Warned you folks every other trip something comes up. All started last Jan with the King's sister funeral mucking up a two week work trip that gave me a two week paid holiday in BKK...

I'm on the way shortly so we will see...

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...
I'm on the way shortly so we will see...[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

Hmmm,

Every time when you come here something usual happens ... , it must be you. Please - reconsider your trip to Bangkok, is it really necessary? The hotels here are already empty!

You could try to destroy another countries tourism industry and avoid Thailand for some time...


Giotto
[URL]www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

Hmmm,

Every time when you come here something usual happens ... , it must be you. Please - reconsider your trip to Bangkok, is it really necessary? The hotels here are already empty!

You could try to destroy another countries tourism industry and avoid Thailand for some time...


Giotto
[URL]www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]

Hum.. and to think I am on our Visitors Bureau...

Maybe this is why I think my country keeps sending me over there. Our little Oceania area wants to try to pick up the tourists that are afraid to go to Thailand.

Good Plan... :)

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

I just talked to our "friends at the army" - they will place a tank in front of the entrance ... that should be sufficient.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

I don't think a goldfish tank is going to work though! ;)

[QUOTE=Stiffoak 571]Reds on the March. Wait till they arrest Taksin and try to get him back into country. Won't be much room at the airport that day! I know the PM has got a new law banning taking over airport but will it work?[/QUOTE]

As long as I'm in-country, I hope it doesn't work! I only wish they'd taken the airport over a day earlier last time. :(

Today my wife asked me if Id booked anywhere in BKK for my trip. I said "I'm going back to same hotel"

"that's unusual for you, normally you like different places"

"I know but its very handy for the skytrain and has a lovely pool good rooms and a very friendly bar"

(tried not to laugh at friendly bar reference"

"only downside is that the owner is a bit grumpy"

Well I had to say something was wrong or she'd think I was staying at the Oriental!

Plan the alternate routes into and out of the country... I am coming back the 13th and that usually means something bad will happen in country. Not sure when out but probably the 22.

Anybody in town let me know we'll grab a drink or meal.

I know this may be a bit premature, but I will be arriving in Bangkok for my annual visit on May 15th and will, of course, stay at Livingstone's. If anyone is going to be around at that time, I'll be happy to buy the beers, at least for the first night.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I know this may be a bit premature, but I will be arriving in Bangkok for my annual visit on May 15th and will, of course, stay at Livingstone's. If anyone is going to be around at that time, I'll be happy to buy the beers, at least for the first night.

GE[/QUOTE]
Slightly premature, but post again when its getting close. Some of us have trouble doing precise planning beyond the next 2 weeks. I haven't got a clue where I will be on May 15.

After reading the back and forth in the forum, I could not resist the temptation to visit Livingstone's. I must say that it is a delightful oasis. Clean rooms, clean sheets, great staff and all in all very pleasant accommodation. It is always nice to find a place where the staff tries hard. I'd recommend the lodge to anyone looking to get away for a while.

I'm not as sprightly as I once was so hung around and rested the whole day yesterday. My plans were to check out the nearby bars and invite one of the sports lounge ladies for the night. I did not find anything that suited at the nearby bars even though my standards are not high.

Anyway, finally settled on a lady at the sports lounge. Things seemed to be going pleasantly enough until after the mandatory his/hers shower. That when the excuses started.- mouth hurts, cannot, etc etc. To cut a long story short, I paid the young lady and kicked her out. My point. Mongering can be a random exercise and you can get an unpleasant experience in the most pleasant place.

Most of my activities in the last couple of years have been in Moscow. I must say that the P4P ladies in Moscow almost took it as a matter of pride that everyone had a good time. Did not quite find the same attitude here. But hey, only my first day in Bangkok. Maybe things will turn around more quickly then the credit crunch.

[QUOTE=Second Coming]After reading the back and forth in the forum, I could not resist the temptation to visit Livingstone's. I must say that it is a delightful oasis. Clean rooms, clean sheets, great staff and all in all very pleasant accommodation. It is always nice to find a place where the staff tries hard. I'd recommend the lodge to anyone looking to get away for a while.
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Most of my activities in the last couple of years have been in Moscow. I must say that the P4P ladies in Moscow almost took it as a matter of pride that everyone had a good time. Did not quite find the same attitude here. But hey, only my first day in Bangkok. Maybe things will turn around more quickly then the credit crunch.
[/QUOTE]Second Coming,

Welcome to the Lodge ... and good to talk to you this morning. As in all businesses there are always issues we have to work on :) .

If you compare the scene of Moscow and Thailand - you are right, this is how it should be. If the girls agree on a deal they should care of a customer and really try to make him happy - to keep him as a customer, to make more money then. But - there are some ladies who will never understand this conecpt :) .

Awaiting more reports, please let us know how things develop.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Second Coming]After reading the back and forth in the forum, I could not resist the temptation to visit Livingstone's. I must say that it is a delightful oasis. Clean rooms, clean sheets, great staff and all in all very pleasant accommodation. It is always nice to find a place where the staff tries hard. I'd recommend the lodge to anyone looking to get away for a while.

I'm not as sprightly as I once was so hung around and rested the whole day yesterday. My plans were to check out the nearby bars and invite one of the sports lounge ladies for the night. I did not find anything that suited at the nearby bars even though my standards are not high.

Anyway, finally settled on a lady at the sports lounge. Things seemed to be going pleasantly enough until after the mandatory his/hers shower. That when the excuses started.- mouth hurts, cannot, etc etc. To cut a long story short, I paid the young lady and kicked her out. My point. Mongering can be a random exercise and you can get an unpleasant experience in the most pleasant place.

Most of my activities in the last couple of years have been in Moscow. I must say that the P4P ladies in Moscow almost took it as a matter of pride that everyone had a good time. Did not quite find the same attitude here. But hey, only my first day in Bangkok. Maybe things will turn around more quickly then the credit crunch.[/QUOTE]

Sorry to hear you had a bad first encounter with one of the LL girls. Having only been to LL (well Thailand) once, I am hardly an expert but I will make one suggestion. Prior to taking a girl you may want to query Mrs. G as to whether the girl has any reservations doing what you enjoy (even some of the most basic things such as massage or BJ). Or, you can let the girl know what you expect prior to taking her.

I have been to many FSI couuntries but have had a completely different experience and found many of the FSU girls were mechanical while the Thai girls were more inclined to provide a GFE. That being said, as Giotto said, there are individuals and some do see their work as only a source of income and dont take pride in their performance.

Hopefully, your second choice will be more successful.

Giotto, see you the end of June.

[QUOTE=Ranger775]Sorry to hear you had a bad first encounter with one of the LL girls. Having only been to LL (well Thailand) once, I am hardly an expert but I will make one suggestion. Prior to taking a girl you may want to query Mrs. G as to whether the girl has any reservations doing what you enjoy (even some of the most basic things such as massage or BJ). Or, you can let the girl know what you expect prior to taking her.
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Giotto, see you the end of June.[/QUOTE]Ranger775,

glad that you come back. See you in June then :) .

I somehow get the feeling that this is a new trend which is developing here. We always tell the girls to only go with a customer if they feel good with him, and the chemistry is ok. If the experience is lousy there is no winner at all - the girl does not feel good, the customer is disappointed and Livingstone's loses a customer. Of course the girl has some money ...

There is of course a conflict of interest for the girls - they need money, they want to make it and then all goes wrong. It seams to happen more often now - may be because the economic situation is becoming that bad (also for the girls) that the pressure to make money is much higher than in the years before, when enough customers were travelling to Thailand. And then they go with customers even though they don't feel well.

I don't know for sure - but we have to watch it, and talk to the girls. Nevertheless our options to control this phenomenon are limited.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Ranger775,

glad that you come back. See you in June then :) .

I somehow get the feeling that this is a new trend which is developing here. We always tell the girls to only go with a customer if they feel good with him, and the chemistry is ok. If the experience is lousy there is no winner at all - the girl does not feel good, the customer is disappointed and Livingstone's loses a customer. Of course the girl has some money ...

There is of course a conflict of interest for the girls - they need money, they want to make it and then all goes wrong. It seams to happen more often now - may be because the economic situation is becoming that bad (also for the girls) that the pressure to make money is much higher than in the years before, when enough customers were travelling to Thailand. And then they go with customers even though they don't feel well.

I don't know for sure - but we have to watch it, and talk to the girls. Nevertheless our options to control this phenomenon are limited.


Giotto[/QUOTE]


Giotto:

I agree with you having a good experience is all about chemistry and expectations. From a guys perspective it cannot be somewhat dfficult to determine the level of chemistry with a girl because she may be trying very hard because she needs the money.

Expectations can be resolved by being upfront with what you want and seeing if the girls reacts negatively. I never had a bad experience with the girls at LL. Maybe it was because I had no real expectations except for GF companionship.

I will always remember when one of the LL girls came out of the shower and immediately apologized saying she did not know how to give massage. I laughed and told her I do not think I asked her for a massage.

I applaud second coming for the way he handled it by paying the girl and sending her away. Knowing that most guys would have probably not paid, or paid, very little she might very well realize she made a mistake.

Again, I recommend that if he feels the chemistry is there he tells the girl what he likes ie.. massage, bbbj etc.... and see if she responds positively. That way he will increase the chances of a good encounter (unless of course she is lousy at it anyway haha).

[QUOTE=Second Coming]....finally settled on a lady at the sports lounge. Things seemed to be going pleasantly enough until after the mandatory his/hers shower. That when the excuses started.- mouth hurts, cannot, etc etc. To cut a long story short, I paid the young lady and kicked her out. My point. Mongering can be a random exercise and you can get an unpleasant experience in the most pleasant place.
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[QUOTE=Ranger775]...I applaud second coming for the way he handled it by paying the girl and sending her away. [/QUOTE]

I must disagree here with Ranger 775, stating that paying the girl and sending her away was the right thing to do. I feel it sets a bad example, where the girl can, when she is not in the mood, make a bit of a fuss, and go home early, with a pocket full of money. How on earth will she know what she did was wrong, and not to be repeated, if there are no consequences? Giotto has repeatedly said that LL does not and cannot get involved with this.

Let’s face it. If you order a product or service in your home country, and you don’t receive it, how do you feel about paying for it anyway? Same thing applies here. By being firm and polite, show her the door, give her a 100 Bt for taxi money, and send her on her way. Basically, for all one knows, she does this 3 times a week. (not the girl from LL,) but a girl who complains and doesn’t provide. She might actually pull that twice in a night. Let’s not kid ourselves here, she knows why she is in that hotel room, and if she doesn’t provide the service she is being paid for, she shouldn’t get paid. If I call for a plumber, and he shows up, sits on my front porch for an hour, and then hits me up for 75$, I am not going to pay him. What is the difference here???

[QUOTE=Ranger775] Prior to taking a girl you may want to query Mrs. G as to whether the girl has any reservations doing what you enjoy (even some of the most basic things such as massage or BJ). [/QUOTE]
I don't know about Mrs G, but Mamasans don't always give the best advice. They get very keen to push a girl even if she doesn't feel absolutely right about going.

I had experience once where the girl didn't want to go as was her period, but I didn't know this. The mamasan pushed her, saying that its O.K. you just stuff this sponge up there. But I was not able to have sex. Going in just 3 inches before hitting something is not enough. Maybe if I was incredibly small ... LOL
As she was very inexperienced her blow job was not good enough as a replacement.

Had to send the girl away with a token payment (not as token as 1ball). She got to go home early I guess.

I'm glad that I managed to get this thread excited about something and the only reason I'm writing this post is to add more oil to the fire.

Everyone has their way of handling a bad situation. I prefer to minimize potential hassles if the cost is insignificant to me. For example, I have in the past paid out of state traffic tickets, even though I disagreed with them because it was not worth the time and trouble to go to court.

In this case the 3K was the price of a good dinner for me, but I'm sure it meant more to the other party. I'm not here to train bar girls or to teach them proper behaviour but to have a good time on vacation. Clearly if you define everything up front it could be less ambiguous - to each his own. I prefer to see what happens and be more casual and overall I've had more good experiences than bad.

For me the right thing to do was to treat the other party courteously and terminate the session painlessly. I simply proceeded to engage in the next best experience which was to go back to the bar and get wasted. :)

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]I had experience once where the girl didn't want to go as was her period, but I didn't know this. The mamasan pushed her, saying that its O.K. you just stuff this sponge up there. But I was not able to have sex. Going in just 3 inches before hitting something is not enough. Maybe if I was incredibly small ... LOL
As she was very inexperienced her blow job was not good enough as a replacement.

Had to send the girl away with a token payment (not as token as 1ball). She got to go home early I guess.[/QUOTE]
Apples and oranges, Soap fan. Your girl tried to accommodate you, and failed. Seems like Second Coming's girl just came up with a bag full of excuses, clearly trying to get out of performing. Your girl deserved some money for effort, more than the 100bt I mention in my previous post, and less than full price. Second Coming's girl, IMO, deserved nothing. Let's not forget she got her share of the BF, and probably a couple of lady drinks. That, given her reluctance, should be considered ample payment, unless paying for nothing is considered appropriate by some.

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
Second Coming's girl, IMO, deserved nothing. Let's not forget she got her share of the BF, and probably a couple of lady drinks. That, given her reluctance, should be considered ample payment, unless paying for nothing is considered appropriate by some.[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Just for the record: We took the BF off the bill, of course.


Giotto

I know you did, G. I would expect nothing less from you. And maybe you took back the girl's share of the BF, I don't know. However, at the time she walked out of SC's room, this girl was adding up her take for the night, which at the time, was a BF, some lady drinks, and the agreed amount.

Not bad for doing nothing. That is the point I am trying to make. If punters let someone get away with this, she will do it again, and again, and again. And you know G, I am not picking on your employee, I am making a broad generalization.

[QUOTE=Giotto]

Mr. Vice President,

Just for the record: We took the BF off the bill, of course.


Giotto

[/QUOTE]

I hate to sound like a cheerleader when I have never been to LL but your business practices seem very good. When a problem is reported here, you always seem to come up with good a customer relations solution.

With the exception of some thinking every one staying at LL is just chasing women and boozing :-) (from BKK reports), when I get to Thailand, I would be honored to stay with you and your staff.

Slim

[QUOTE=Nvslim]your business practices seem very good. When a problem is reported here, you always seem to come up with good a customer relations solution.[/QUOTE]

I would not say that he always comes up with a good solution, sometimes there are no good solutions. That is not a criticism, sometimes you just can't win. And I won't say all the mamasan's at the place have been the best (over a long period folks not talking just now)

I will say that personally going through good and bad times, Giotto cares about his staff, makes sure they get paid, and treats them right. I'm not talking just the bar staff, the regular staff IMHO is treated very fairly and treated like a family by him. It seems to me that they are loyal to LL. Even if he is a grumpy German...

Now the ladies... loyalty to them is not a word that is well known so they come and go. But the ones I've known, Giotto has always tried to help them in difficult situations, and has always protected and defended those girls to keep them safe. Including late night phone calls asking for help.

For this I give him credit. When Giotto is active in operations things were / are nicer and a lot better then most of the other places. I've known many girls leave then end up coming back, hearing one lady returned recently after a stint on soi 6. I've seen the same hotel / wait staff there for a long time and I still wish the one would marry me even if I'm married and she knows it :)

Compared to some / most of the other hotel / restaurant owners in BKK, Giotto and Auntie Guido are pretty easy and understanding to work with.

[QUOTE=1Ball]I must disagree here with Ranger 775, stating that paying the girl and sending her away was the right thing to do. I feel it sets a bad example, where the girl can, when she is not in the mood, make a bit of a fuss, and go home early, with a pocket full of money. How on earth will she know what she did was wrong, and not to be repeated, if there are no consequences? Giotto has repeatedly said that LL does not and cannot get involved with this.

Let’s face it. If you order a product or service in your home country, and you don’t receive it, how do you feel about paying for it anyway? Same thing applies here. By being firm and polite, show her the door, give her a 100 Bt for taxi money, and send her on her way. Basically, for all one knows, she does this 3 times a week. (not the girl from LL,) but a girl who complains and doesn’t provide. She might actually pull that twice in a night. Let’s not kid ourselves here, she knows why she is in that hotel room, and if she doesn’t provide the service she is being paid for, she shouldn’t get paid. If I call for a plumber, and he shows up, sits on my front porch for an hour, and then hits me up for 75$, I am not going to pay him. What is the difference here???[/QUOTE]

Well, I would hardly call what mongers pay a treasure chest of gold for these girls. We just have different perspective. You look at the girls as plumbers I look at them as human beings. But just as you tell a plumber what you expect him to fix the leak so too you should make sure the girl knows beforehand what is expected if you have concerns about such issues.

I guess the question is if you have not set expectations beforehand, at what point do you be "firm and polite" and send her home with a 100 baht. After you had sex and discover she will not do anal? After she gives you a BJ and you discover she will not have unprotected sex? In the morning when you decide it was just not a great experience?

From my perspective, the contractual obligation is made when you bar fine and depart for the evening (if you have discussed price). If you negotiated price but nothing else then you are obligated to pay the price. That is why I suggested that if there is any concern about service you make it clear beforehand what you expect.

That being said, I never discuss money or service. For me such dicussions degrade the particular experience I am looking for. I know from the great information provided by this forum by the senior guys and in talking to LL management what the price range is for the service provided. I just rely on chemistry as the indicator of whether I will get the service I am hoping to get.

That is not to say your argument does not have merit. It is just to say we have different perspectives and ways if handling such issues. As you mentioned my home country, when I go to a restaurant and am served a meal that does not live up to my expectations, I will pay the bill and then never frequent the restaurant again.

[QUOTE=1Ball]I know you did, G. I would expect nothing less from you. And maybe you took back the girl's share of the BF, I don't know. However, at the time she walked out of SC's room, this girl was adding up her take for the night, which at the time, was a BF, some lady drinks, and the agreed amount.

Not bad for doing nothing. That is the point I am trying to make. If punters let someone get away with this, she will do it again, and again, and again. And you know G, I am not picking on your employee, I am making a broad generalization.[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

We cancelled the bar fine completely - also the share for the girl. We had a serious discussion with that lady, and if an incident like this happens again she will most likely work somewhere else - this behavior does not really find into our concept.

To avoid misunderstandings: The girls DO NOT HAVE TO GO WITH CUSTOMERS. But if they go things like this event SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

I know that you are not picking on the girls - it is not a LL specific problem, it is a problem that all bars have, if girls are working there.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

We cancelled the bar fine completely. Also the share for the girl. We had a serious discussion with that lady, and if an incident like this happens again she will most likely work somewhere else. This behavior does not really find into our concept.

To avoid misunderstandings: The girls DO NOT HAVE TO GO WITH CUSTOMERS. But if they go things like this event SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

I know that you are not picking on the girls. It is not a LL specific problem, it is a problem that all bars have, if girls are working there.

Giotto[/QUOTE]I think a key point from the punter's point of view is this:

At least with LL you have the chance to make your case against poor service and get something done about it as clearly "the management" take every case seriously. Try doing that after a ST at Rawhide or a bar in Patpong! Do you think there will be as sympathetic a response?

[QUOTE=1Ball]Apples and oranges, Soap fan. [/QUOTE]
Yes quite likely it was apples and oranges. I wasn't too clear if he got anything at all or not.

2nd coming said wasn't there to train the girl.
On occasions I have had fun trying to train girls, how to kiss, how to give tongue properly, how to blow soft and smooth, how to brush the tits against the balls as she blows (it her tits are big), how to angle her pelvis, pussy squeezes, etc.

Unfortunately girls that are not used to doing BJ can get considerable jaw ache from having to open wide for a long time. My ex-GF wasn't great at BJ as she just didn't get the practice while I was away LOL. She did fine at first but jaw tired quickly. So mongers please don't expect too much from girls that are not BJ specialists.
On the other hand some seem real good after very little experience, or was I fooled and the experience was far more than they let on? ;)

[QUOTE=Ranger775]
That being said, I never discuss money or service. For me such dicussions degrade the particular experience I am looking for. I know from the great information provided by this forum by the senior guys and in talking to LL management what the price range is for the service provided. I just rely on chemistry as the indicator of whether I will get the service I am hoping to get.
[/QUOTE]
I am the same and never discuss price and service unless the girl raises the topic herself.
That leaves me able to pay fairly for what is provided and I get no complaints.
I will however at least discuss whether she is staying ST or LT and what time she has to go, if LT.

Of course Ranger775 enjoys the best possible reputation amongst the girls, in every way, and therefore will never have to dicker the price.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]I am the same and never discuss price and service unless the girl raises the topic herself.
That leaves me able to pay fairly for what is provided and I get no complaints.
I will however at least discuss whether she is staying ST or LT and what time she has to go, if LT.

Of course Ranger775 enjoys the best possible reputation amongst the girls, in every way, and therefore will never have to dicker the price.[/QUOTE]

Well, Soap Fan I am not sure what reputation I enjoy with the girls (If 1Ball is correct is his ananlysis of the girl then probably my reputation among such girls would be that as a sap).

I also think 1Ball makes a valid point. Who knows how many good experiences others may have had because someone made the point of not paying other girls who did such things earlier in their business and learned a lesson? I am just not inclined to be that guy as I figure it is a matter of character for the girl and in such cases I vote with my feet. I guess I have been fortunate to have only had two bad experiences (never at LL's) in the limited time I have to partake in the activity.

For the most part, I have found the girls all over the world to be good, sweet people most of whom have entered this business only out of economic necessity.

Without a doubt we all have differing expectations and ideas of what constitutes "good service." That is why I suggested that to remove all doubt perhaps expectations should be discussed prior to making the commitment for those that are concerned about such things.

Snce my ability to interact with members of the opposite sex is somewhat limited, I am more concern with the ambiance surrounding the act rather than the sex itself. Cuddling, kissing and talking are far more important to me. Lets face it. in a pinch we can actually perform the act without the need of a partner, haha. But I do not have soft skin, wear perfume. Nor can I cuddle or kiss myself (trying to make a joke here).

Even in the best of times if you take a girl long time then only 10-15 percent of that time will be engaged in the act of sex. I prefer to try to focus on making the other 85-90 percent enjoyable and to let the other play itself out. It has worked for me but maybe it would not work for others. I also only take a girl long time and that is really the only thing I discuss with the girl prior to moving on.

I have read the forum vociferously and the one thing I have concluded is that everyone has differing objectives, desires, and expectations. So each will have to figure out what works best for him and to be driven by there own interests and values. In that respect I thought second coming did the honorable thing and it worked out fnancially for him. Hence my comment.

[QUOTE=Ranger775]Well, I would hardly call what mongers pay a treasure chest of gold for these girls. We just have different perspective. You look at the girls as plumbers I look at them as human beings. But just as you tell a plumber what you expect him to fix the leak so too you should make sure the girl knows beforehand what is expected if you have concerns about such issues.

I guess the question is if you have not set expectations beforehand, at what point do you be "firm and polite" and send her home with a 100 baht. After you had sex and discover she will not do anal? After she gives you a BJ and you discover she will not have unprotected sex? In the morning when you decide it was just not a great experience?

From my perspective, the contractual obligation is made when you bar fine and depart for the evening (if you have discussed price). If you negotiated price but nothing else then you are obligated to pay the price. That is why I suggested that if there is any concern about service you make it clear beforehand what you expect.

That being said, I never discuss money or service. For me such discussions degrade the particular experience I am looking for. I know from the great information provided by this forum by the senior guys and in talking to LL management what the price range is for the service provided. I just rely on chemistry as the indicator of whether I will get the service I am hoping to get.

That is not to say your argument does not have merit. It is just to say we have different perspectives and ways if handling such issues. As you mentioned my home country, when I go to a restaurant and am served a meal that does not live up to my expectations, I will pay the bill and then never frequent the restaurant again.[/QUOTE]

Ranger, you did not read what I wrote, or you didn't understand. I do not look at the girls as plumbers, (though I do like their plumbing ;))I was merely discussing paying for a service one doesn't receive. and it doesn't matter if it is 500 Bt, or 5,000,000 bt. Oh, and BTW, plumbers are human beings too.

Furthermore, I made it crystal clear in my writing that since she did not perform at all, she didn't deserve payment. Not the morning after, and not after an attempt at anal. She walked out of the shower, and started her little game. She then was sent on her way. Where do you get that it was the morning after ???

And the other evening, I got a steak well done, when I ordered it rare. With a smile, and very nicely, I sent it back and got it replaced with a delicious rare steak. I eat at this restaurant often, and would never just eat something I don't like, only to never return. You may choose to actually eat your crappy meal, I do not.

And to quote you a second time in 1 post, you lucky guy.

[QUOTE=Ranger775] I know from the great information provided by this forum by the senior guys and in talking to LL management what the price range is for the service provided.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Even without discussing what kind of service you expect, you know how much to pay for this. Which leads me to conclude once again, that if you don't receive ANY form of service, she should receive no form of payment.

and to quote Giotto, these girls know what should go on when they walk into a hotel room, and the behavior of this girl should not happen.

[QUOTE=Giotto]To avoid misunderstandings: The girls DO NOT HAVE TO GO WITH CUSTOMERS. But if they go things like this event SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.
Giotto[/QUOTE]

Look, even though it was SC's first visit to LL, he doesn't say if it is his first visit to BKK, and this could have happened anywhere in BKK. But you know as well as I do, that we read a couple of times a month about a punter taking a girl, and her starting her shenanigans as she walks out of the shower, wrapped in a towel, or a fee for LT has been discussed, and immediately following the first pop, she has to go for some reason or another. Paying her for the LT rate IMO opinion is stupid, and also gives the wrong info to future punters reading these pages. It's not the money, it's the principle, and say what you wish, what she is doing is calculated, planned, dishonest, and just plain wrong. And to paraphrase your restaurant comment above, the girl doesn't care for one millisecond that you will never take her again. She obviously didn't want to be there in the first place, and conned the guy out of 2 weeks secretarial wages.

Receiving payment for a service that was not provided, regardless of what the service is, goes against what I believe is right and wrong. Paying for a service which was not provided is equally wrong. If I provide a sub standard service to a customer of mine, and he complains, I refund, or replace. We all have different thresholds of what is acceptable.

[QUOTE=Second Coming]I'm glad that I managed to get this thread excited about something and the only reason I'm writing this post is to add more oil to the fire.
...
For me the right thing to do was to treat the other party courteously and terminate the session painlessly. I simply proceeded to engage in the next best experience which was to go back to the bar and get wasted. :)[/QUOTE]Second Coming,

LOL. BESTARD!

Everybody has his own style to deal with a situation like this ... to go back to the bar and have a drink is certainly not the worst decision :) .


Giotto

Although I've been to many parts of the world, this is my first visit to Bangkok and to LL. In my opinion, many of the girls that I meet are sweet and end up in this profession out of economic necessity. Mongers have their own reasons as well. Some like me are looking for an interlude without strings, and others may be in search of a girlfriend. I say, to each his own.

Now for the girl's perspective. I wonder how many mongers would be comfortable making sure they look their best every single day, show up for work to be ogled and judged on their physical assets, scrounge for lady drinks and hopefully make some money through a bar fine and more. On top of that, customers demand the highest level of service but want to pay as little as possible. If you go to places where the service and products are well defined (I suppose like Eden or Tulip etc), then certainly, the price dictates almost exactly what you will get.

The girls in S33 appear to me a little more independent. They have to market and sell themselves unlike Eden or Tulip or other clubs where the management defines the products and takes on the role of marketing.

So my point is that you cannot directly compare S33 with other clubs. Although the overall boundaries of the service that is offered are clear, it is generally also true that specifics are not well defined - and these can vary depending on the independent provider.

In my opinion, the contract is agreed upon once the barfine is paid. The contract for someone from s33 is for a certain amount of 1 on 1 time. While certain services are assumed, they are not guaranteed. That after all is the risk that you take with independent providers. Either party has the option to terminate the contract if they fulfill all their obligations. For example, the monger can pay up and terminate the contract, or the girl can walk out herself at any time without accepting any payment.

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[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

We cancelled the bar fine completely - also the share for the girl. We had a serious discussion with that lady, and if an incident like this happens again she will most likely work somewhere else - this behavior does not really find into our concept.

To avoid misunderstandings: The girls DO NOT HAVE TO GO WITH CUSTOMERS. But if they go things like this event SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

I know that you are not picking on the girls - it is not a LL specific problem, it is a problem that all bars have, if girls are working there.

Giotto[/QUOTE]The girl's name is "NEW"? She is still so shy?

We encounter problems with the mailing system of our Website right now. The booking requests are not sent, in many cases.

If somebody requests a room booking and does not hear anything from us within 24 hours please send a mail to:

[URL]info@livingstones.co.th[/URL]

We are working on it - and our ISP Loxinfo is involved. I hope that this problem is fixed today.

Thanks.


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
Receiving payment for a service that was not provided, regardless of what the service is, goes against what I believe is right and wrong. Paying for a service which was not provided is equally wrong.
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Basically I would agree to a statement, that paying for a service that was not provided is wrong.

But - we are dealing with humans here, in a very personal and intimate situation, and in many cases they just know each other for a few hours. Things can go wrong in such a situation - and I don't think that one can then deal with that problem as if something went wrong with a dinner in a restaurant or a car bought from a car dealer.

I would most likely also be one of those customers who feels bad, stops all activities and pays the girl to leave - ending up in the bar drinking a glas of red wine :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

Basically I would agree to a statement, that paying for a service that was not provided is wrong.

But - we are dealing with humans here, in a very personal and intimate situation, and in many cases they just know each other for a few hours. Things can go wrong in such a situation - and I don't think that one can then deal with that problem as if something went wrong with a dinner in a restaurant or a car bought from a car dealer.

I would most likely also be one of those customers who feels bad, stops all activities and pays the girl to leave - ending up in the bar drinking a glas of red wine :) .
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Ya, wait until you get a bit older Giotto. You are still a spring chicken at 48 ;)

[QUOTE=1Ball]Ya, wait until you get a bit older Giotto. You are still a spring chicken at 48 ;)[/QUOTE]I could have sworn that Mr. Giotto was 84 and only looked 48.

[QUOTE=Giotto]..........................
I would most likely also be one of those customers who feels bad, stops all activities and pays the girl to leave - ending up in the bar drinking a glas of red wine :) .


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Sheesh, I don't know whats going with you young uns. Drinking to drown your sorrow of having being dealt a bad one? I would just go and get another one if possible. Be a BESTARD.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Sheesh, I don't know whats going with you young uns. Drinking to drown your sorrow of having being dealt a bad one? I would just go and get another one if possible. Be a BESTARD.[/QUOTE]Sir,

Naahhh, after all the [failed] effort to convince ONE lady to have a good time all power and motivation is most likely lost ... 48, I tell you, that's not 20 any more :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Second Coming]...
...
In my opinion, the contract is agreed upon once the barfine is paid. The contract for someone from s33 is for a certain amount of 1 on 1 time. While certain services are assumed, they are not guaranteed. That after all is the risk that you take with independent providers. Either party has the option to terminate the contract if they fulfill all their obligations. For example, the monger can pay up and terminate the contract, or the girl can walk out herself at any time without accepting any payment.

[/QUOTE]Second Coming,

I will forward your report to my lawyer, asking for a detailed analysis of the legal issues of this specific transaction :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Second Coming]
In my opinion, the contract is agreed upon once the barfine is paid. The contract for someone from s33 is for a certain amount of 1 on 1 time. While certain services are assumed, they are not guaranteed. That after all is the risk that you take with independent providers. Either party has the option to terminate the contract if they fulfill all their obligations. For example, the monger can pay up and terminate the contract, or the girl can walk out herself at any time without accepting any payment.
[/QUOTE]
Actually the BF is simply a deal to allow the girl to leave the bar and not return to work. What else is going to happen is a completely separate deal.

e.g. Girl has period. She might say that she can be berfined but no boom boom. Food and dancing O.K.

To be sure, get it in writing and notarized. A bad fuck should be a sueable offense. ;)

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Actually the BF is simply a deal to allow the girl to leave the bar and not return to work. What else is going to happen is a completely separate deal.

e.g. Girl has period. She might say that she can be berfined but no boom boom. Food and dancing O.K.

To be sure, get it in writing and notarized. A bad fuck should be a sueable offense. ;)[/QUOTE]

Technically you are correct, but I suspect that most girls have a good idea of what the intent of retiring to a room means. In any respect, my involvement in this discussion has occurred only because I lauded second coming for being a gentleman about the whole thing.

Considering that what had occurred to second coming has yet to happen to me, I will have to wait and see my reaction should such a thing happen to me (I can only hope that enough girls inclined to do such a thing had been taught their lessen by the more experienced mongers so as to minimize the possibility of it occurring again).

In any respect, I still applaud second coming for his handling of the situation and hope I will show the same respect and compassion should such a thing happen to me. However, I do agree with the posting that suggested that he should have went back to the bar and got another girl.

Was ready to board my flight and took a valium to get some sleep on my way over as I had a machine last night in Manila who didn't let me sleep... and they are delaying the flight.... So will have to postpone my afternoon reservation for a massage... But now I'll have to try to stay awake so I can board my flight...

I just booked my flight to Thailand, arriving May 8-19th. I was able to use Yahoo Travel to get a RT flight from San Diego to BKK for $840 (taxes & shipping included). I also just booked a room at LL for 5 nights when I first arrive. Having only mongered in the US and Mexico, I look forward to two plus weeks in Thailand.

I've been RTFF and will continue to study up on all that BKK has to offer as well as what my next destination in my trip will be. I've had it stuck in my head that i'd head to Pattaya for 5 nights and then back to BKK for the remainder of my trip but i've been advised on other travel sites to go to Chaweng Beach instead. They said the beach is nicer/quieter and that you can still find a lot of action there.

*the downside I see to Chaweng Beach off of my initial research is that i'd have to fly there, vice catching a bus or taxi to Pattaya from BKK.

Any thoughts?

If you're in Thailand during this time let me know and we can meet up for a beer.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Was ready to board my flight and took a valium to get some sleep on my way over as I had a machine last night in Manila who didn't let me sleep... and they are delaying the flight.... So will have to postpone my afternoon reservation for a massage... But now I'll have to try to stay awake so I can board my flight...[/QUOTE]
Just as well, Brother. I have been informed that the tank, which is to be parked in front of LL, is in for servicing. It has a flat tire. Will be up and going tomorrow morning.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Just as well, Brother. I have been informed that the tank, which is to be parked in front of LL, is in for servicing. It has a flat tire. Will be up and going tomorrow morning.[/QUOTE]

Just great... traffic was a ***** and there are some folks happy I am back but one of them is not the wife,, um.. I guess ex wife now... :)

[QUOTE=Baltimore Man]*the downside I see to Chaweng Beach off of my initial research is that i'd have to fly there, vice catching a bus or taxi to Pattaya from BKK.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Hey Baltimore Man.

I hear what you are saying about flying, but after a few days in BKK you might want to get away from all the hussle and bussle, and Koh Samui is worth the distance. A good option would be getting the overnight train/sleeper and catching the beer laden boat over in the morning. Albeit very early in the morning. A sure way of getting all the city grime out of your hair.

[QUOTE=Baltimore Man]I just booked my flight to Thailand, arriving May 8-19th. I was able to use Yahoo Travel to get a RT flight from San Diego to BKK for $840 (taxes & shipping included). I also just booked a room at LL for 5 nights when I first arrive. Having only mongered in the US and Mexico, I look forward to two plus weeks in Thailand.

I've been RTFF and will continue to study up on all that BKK has to offer as well as what my next destination in my trip will be. I've had it stuck in my head that i'd head to Pattaya for 5 nights and then back to BKK for the remainder of my trip but i've been advised on other travel sites to go to Chaweng Beach instead. They said the beach is nicer/quieter and that you can still find a lot of action there.

*the downside I see to Chaweng Beach off of my initial research is that i'd have to fly there, vice catching a bus or taxi to Pattaya from BKK.

Any thoughts?

If you're in Thailand during this time let me know and we can meet up for a beer.[/QUOTE]
Chaweng can be a really beautiful beach in the right season (way ahead of Pattaya) but I wouldn't call it a premier mongering destination. But I could be wrong since its few years since I was mongering there.

I took a girl to Chaweng years ago (oh dear, that was 15 years back) and had a great time. Some more visits after that.
I had an even better time at Koh Tao, Koh Phi Phi, Krabi when with GF and not mongering more recently.

So just decide what your priorities are.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Just great... traffic was a ***** and there are some folks happy I am back but one of them is not the wife,, um.. I guess ex wife now... :)[/QUOTE]

Ah well, you can't have everything.
Maybe see you for a Paddy's Day pint on Tuesday night?

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Ah well, you can't have everything.
Maybe see you for a Paddy's Day pint on Tuesday night?[/QUOTE]

Sounds good. Went to the sports bar, my favorite waitresses are still there and the place was a little slow. Ran into three or four ISG members there and had a good evening.

Ended up with a young girl, very sweet and nice but too young. Was supposedly her first customer after just starting the bar but found that out well into the session. All in all a very nice girl, cute and great personality and a lot of fun to be with. The problem I have at the bar is that most the girls are friends of mine for a long time, friends of the ex also.

That divorce really brought the vigor back in my life :)

Plasmids and I ended up at the sports bar again last night with plans to go out to cowboy... Well that didn't happen.

Ended up playing a drinking game and then having to BF a new girl for the night as the one from last night was out of action for the night. Lots of new(er) talent in the bar. This one was 30 and had more experience the one before, one that really could hook a guy in a hurry with lots of stamina and staying power. So watch out, I see her hooking a sponsor pretty quick. Oh and I forgot to mention she was small and tight, extremely tight and I surely am not john holmes...

She's been in the game before LL and she started with more of an act but since I know the game as well, after a session or so I started to try to get the true girl to come out and it was an enjoyable evening and morning. But after six shots last night and this morning these girls seem to want to take a day off for some reason and I'm still looking for next MP... But am actually surprised with some of the new girls in the bar.

Will have to hit the fitness first then off to do nit noy work and find a new good MP or so to take the afternoon edge off.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]... But after six shots last night and this morning these girls seem to want to take a day off for some reason and I'm still looking for next MP... But am actually surprised with some of the new girls in the bar.
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[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

4 shots, 6 shots - what the hell ... are you trying to test the limits of our female staff :) ?

Will call you "The Rabbit" from now on.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

4 shots, 6 shots - what the hell ... are you trying to test the limits of our female staff :) ?

Will call you "The Rabbit" from now on.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

I'm testing out your endurance training program, or your medical plan I'm not sure which. :)

Hell all your girls are horny as tourists numbers are down and I'm only doing my part to keep them in shape and ready for when other members come back to town.

I must be one of the only guys that is actually happy the number of tourists are down, two ISG guys have a bar full of horny women.

I need to decide whether to close down the Sports Lounge ...

Today:

I saw one ISG bestard chasing another ISG bestard around the pool table in the bar ... and then (I think I need new glasses, all that cannot be true) some kissing activities of those two guys in the bar!!! Girls were NOT involved. {Auntie Guido also not, day off.]

OK, that's it now. Two guys in the bar, and plenty of horny girls. And then those two guys get into action with each other ... arrrggghhhh, what the hell is this, a gay forum :) ???

May tomorrow be a better day!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]OK, that's it now. Two guys in the bar, and plenty of horny girls. And then those two guys get into action with each other ... arrrggghhhh, what the hell is this, a gay forum :) ???[/QUOTE]
C'mon, name names!

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]C'mon, name names![/QUOTE]

Well, I was on a plane all day, so not me.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]C'mon, name names![/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'd really want to know too :D

Well there are three ISG guys around... and me.. well my day changed and started with taking one ISG member on a tour of MBK where I ended getting asked for my number by a girl selling phones and she ended up calling me to go out... Damn I must be getting more handsome every day...

We ended up at Beer Garden and saw the Nana sites and I was all set for a massage when I came across a pretty nice good looking lady... ended up taking her back to the room which turned into a three shot affair.

At the lodge later in the sports bar I only remember playing drinking games and a lot of kissing but that was us two guys kissing all the girls because no other bestards are in the house...

Ended up on the third girl from the bar in three nights, definitely am getting a reputation as a ting tong butterfly pak wan mak mak, for which I really don't care. It's fun being single again.

This one, been in the lodge three months, night sessions were not perfect as she was a bit drunk, morning however she woke up with a smile and an attitude and energy that changed the entire status of things. A real sweet lady. So far the lodge I'm three for three with no complaints except I know I'm being though of as a ting tong. Overall the trip is a smashing success from the MP to the Beer Garden to the lodge. Have some non P4P with three appointments today (work in here also) and hopefully back to the lodge at some point.

BTW... there is a rumor of some famous doctor running around the lodge kissing everything and anything that moves or does not move. In fact this famous doctor had us laughing so hard we were crying in the beer garden with his antics... Maybe he's the one kissing the folks but what do I know, I was drunk off my ass on diet coke so can't be sure of anything except that I woke up with a woman.

Well I was the other ISG member at the bar last night with Tansak KTV and I do not recall anything. Oh yes there was a lot of kissing girls after playing some wild drinking game two days in a row.

Went to MBK with Tansak KTV yesterday morning and in the process of talking to the young lady at one of the shops she asked for his telephone number and called him when she got off work. This dude has an aura of pheromones around him. I've seen patients on Viagra with less stamina than him!

On Saturday one of the delightful LL ladies 'N' took me sightseeing to the temples and a few other sights we had a fantastic day. To retore the balance of 'good' and 'bad', Tansak KTV too me to Nana and Beer Garden, where a lot of fun was had. Have you even seen a grown man cry? I only wish I took a picture to post here of him with tears rolling down his face!

I will write some full reports once I get back home next week but so far as to say two things:

1. LL is just a fantastic place, and Gitto is not as miserable as I was lead to believe by some forum members:.p

2. Without Tansak KTV this trip at LL would not have been as memorable, we had some serious fun yesterday!

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...can't be sure of anything except that I woke up with a woman.[/QUOTE]

Only [i]one[/i]? You really are off your game. The downside of the single life I guess. ;)

[QUOTE=Pita123]Only [i]one[/i]? You really are off your game. The downside of the single life I guess. ;)[/QUOTE]

Yeah but just back from Temple with a non P4P who was deciding to have sex with me or not... Temple answer was OK... now awaiting if I pass the family test or not.

Now it's time for a repeat performance form one from the last few days with the nail paint girl coming over later in the day for a repeat then hopefully back in the sports bar.

I'm doing what I can for Queen and Country :)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I'm doing what I can for Queen and Country :)[/QUOTE]

Well it looks like you can do a lot... so many "deposits" during the day LOL

[QUOTE=Plasmids]Well I was the other ISG member at the bar last night with Tansak KTV and I do not recall anything. Oh yes there was a lot of kissing girls after playing some wild drinking game two days in a row.
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1. LL is just a fantastic place, and Gitto is not as miserable as I was lead to believe by some forum members:.p

2. Without Tansak KTV this trip at LL would not have been as memorable, we had some serious fun yesterday![/QUOTE]Plasmids,

Ahhh, it was you ... now I understand. And you just came back from the temple where you had to make the decision whether to have sex with your new "girl" friend or not. OK, I understand, I better let the Auntie take care of this :) ...

Btw., who is this miserable Gitto :) ?


Giotto

PS: Mr. Vice President, we urgently have to talk! This Plasmids bestard came in here looking for a fat small bold "Gitto" guy, I know that you are somehow involved in this!

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Yeah but just back from Temple with a non P4P who was deciding to have sex with me or not... Temple answer was OK...
...
I'm doing what I can for Queen and Country :)[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

I know that the Auntie will try to find out who from both of you is the "Queen" and the "King" :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

I know that the Auntie will try to find out who from both of you is the "Queen" and the "King" :) ...


Giotto[/QUOTE]

There is no question who is King and who is the queen of course...

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well it looks like you can do a lot... so many "deposits" during the day LOL[/QUOTE]

I have my work out schedule and you have yours...

[QUOTE=Giotto]I need to decide whether to close down the Sports Lounge

Today:

I saw one ISG bestard chasing another ISG bestard around the pool table in the bar. And then (I think I need new glasses, all that cannot be true) some kissing activities of those two guys in the bar! Girls were NOT involved. {Auntie Guido also not, day off. ]

OK, that's it now. Two guys in the bar, and plenty of horny girls. And then those two guys get into action with each other. Arrrggghhhh, what the hell is this, a gay forum ?

May tomorrow be a better day!
[/quote]
Wow, did I miss somethin'

One day I am not there and they have fun without me!

LOL

i arrive ll friday afternoon, if any mongers want to say hello, so i'll be around, but i don't drink beer. i'll need all my powers at peek for later on! may even need a nap like giotto does.

[quote=soap fan]i arrive ll friday afternoon, if any mongers want to say hello, so i'll be around, but i don't drink beer. [/quote]

i might pass by then

[quote]i'll need all my powers at peek for later on! may even need a nap like giotto does.[/quote]

i hope you guys are not napping together :d

[quote=soap fan]i arrive ll friday afternoon, if any mongers want to say hello, so i'll be around, but i don't drink beer. i'll need all my powers at peek for later on! may even need a nap like giotto does.[/quote]

i'm still around then, and i've narrowed my choices to a few top performers so i'm pretty well contented right now.

yesterday was interesting. i had a repeat performance and then i ended up in the sports bar again playing drinking games... again... funny that i don't drink but get roped into playing drinking games with the girls. must be my baht-in-ality :) but it's all clean fun and doesn't hurt anyone, mamasan has been drunk for three days now. took home a repeat from the bar and she wanted to leave to go with sister to temple on her day off and i had no problems with that.

what she didn't know is that i had paid a girl for a weeks worth of work and this other girl was waiting outside for us to finish (she does know i am big butterfly). so when i put her in a cab to go to her sisters place, standing across the street was a free lancer i had met earlier in the trip and put on retainer for the week to be on call for just such cases. not a bad deal, 6,000 baht for the week, she is on call 24 hours a day, no time limits. a great little girl, 25 year old. i'm actually afraid to post pictures of her but might edit some when i get home as she's a cute little thing imho...

now packing this girl off as it is time to switch where i stay (unfortunately company won't pay for ll). and with all the antics i've gone through i"m sure ll wouldn't want me and my current hotel is glad to get me out. i got some very strange looks from the hotel bar and staff when i walked one girl out and sent her off in a taxi and across comes another to me and right back into the hotel and up to the room. :)

oh and the ex still hasn't found me but gets reports on what i'm doing and still wants me back for some damn reason. this is thailand....

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I hope you guys are not napping together :D[/QUOTE]

I've heard rumors that the hotel / bar might be changing in that direction but can not confirm such reports. :)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I've heard rumors that the hotel / bar might be changing in that direction but can not confirm such reports. :)[/QUOTE]

Well, since they were coming from the BOSS himself... I would tend to think it is pretty accurate :D

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well, since they were coming from the BOSS himself... I would tend to think it is pretty accurate :D[/QUOTE]

I've also heard talk about banning certain ISG members from the property, it is either that or adding them to inventory.

And I've heard they've added a full time Doctor to the staff, a short little fellow from England. He's given many ladies a full medical review.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]...but I don't drink beer.[/QUOTE]

This seems to be a recurring theme...amazing how many dry mongers we have around here. I'm no alcoholic, but I drink here and there.

[QUOTE=Pita123]This seems to be a recurring theme...amazing how many dry mongers we have around here. I'm no alcoholic, but I drink here and there.[/QUOTE]

Yes, "dry monger" I think that would suit me well :)

[QUOTE=Pita123]This seems to be a recurring theme...amazing how many dry mongers we have around here. I'm no alcoholic, but I drink here and there.[/QUOTE]

If you are drunk it limits you, why monger if you are plastered off your ass. Why take a girl if she's plastered off her ass only to pass out or barf all night long or whine and *****... A little alcohol is OK, especially in the girls, but too much is way wrong, best to limit in take when planning to monger.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV] So when I put her in a cab to go to her sisters place, standing across the street was a free lancer I had met earlier in the trip and put on retainer for the week to be on call for just such cases. Not a bad deal, 6,000 baht for the week, she is on call 24 hours a day, no time limits. A great little girl, 25 year old. I'm actually afraid to post pictures of her but might edit some when I get home as she's a cute little thing IMHO...
[/QUOTE]
Are you saying you get unlimited shots for 1 week for 6K or is 6K just the on-call part of the fee?
This seems too good!

[QUOTE=Pita123]This seems to be a recurring theme...amazing how many dry mongers we have around here. I'm no alcoholic, but I drink here and there.[/QUOTE]
Actually I do have a drink occasionally.
I do get drunk on new-year's eve usually.
Everything except beer ;)

The LL bartender mixes some very special high energy fruit shakes too (sometimes with alocohol in).

My proposed girl for first night doesn't drink alcohol and is very powerful, so I have to be able to perform or else she will be mad :mad:

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Are you saying you get unlimited shots for 1 week for 6K or is 6K just the on-call part of the fee?
This seems too good![/QUOTE]

6 K is the entire fee. ;) I'm sure I got the handsum man discount.

Now, after our first session we had a good time, I asked her what it would take to make her stop going customers, she's welcome to go to the bars with her friends and do whatever she wants but if I call she comes over and hangs out and there is no time limit or # limit or such, just whatever I can do and she can take.

She knows I see other girls and she's told me that she'll bring a friend to handle some of the shots if she gets sore, but we got along smashingly. So she said she does not need to go every customer and if she had 6,000 baht for the week she would be happy to sit with friends and not go customers and be on call to come visit me. A mini holiday where she knows bills can be paid and she can just sit for drinks and talk friends.

Now I'm not stupid enough to think she can be completely honest here; however every time I've called she's answered and every time I've told her to come she's come and she's never asked for a dime. I'm at 9 pops for 6,000 baht right now with 5 days to go. She is happy with this, just got a SMS from her asking if she could come back.

Now you know me, she'll get more, my bar / dinner bills are easily this amount every night so of course she will get more but she hasn't asked for a dime extra.

That's why I'm a little hesitant to post her picture it's a great deal and she's a great little lady... I did email it to a certain member but can show you in person... we like the same kind of girl so you might like her.

I'm really nailing this trip down pat... just great successes. Buddha must be smiling for me right now :) Knock on wood I hope it keeps up. Think I"m actually going to see my ex for dinner as it is her B day... Restaurants knives and ducks.... hum... hope my luck holds out..

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]The LL bartender mixes some very special high energy fruit shakes too (sometimes with alocohol in).[/QUOTE]

That gives me a great Idea... You know how they have these Protein drinks for Great workouts.. well, how about a Special "Fuck All Night" cocktail?

With the new Viagra being in liquid form, you could mix it in a cocktail (effective in the next 30mn) and voila! you are sure not to disappoint yourself and your partner of the night.

:)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]6 K is the entire fee. ;)
.......
and she's told me that she'll bring a friend to handle some of the shots if she gets sore, but we got along smashingly.
..........
I'm at 9 pops for 6,000 baht right now with 5 days to go. She is happy with this, just got a SMS from her asking if she could come back.
... Restaurants knives and ducks
.... hum... hope my luck holds out..[/QUOTE]BESTARD ain't enough here, you BREASTARD you!

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]...I do get drunk on new-year's eve usually.
Everything except beer [/QUOTE]May that be the reason why you previously have chosen the name liquor? oops, wrong spelling.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...
I'm really nailing this trip down pat... just great successes. Buddha must be smiling for me right now :) Knock on wood I hope it keeps up. Think I"m actually going to see my ex for dinner as it is her B day... Restaurants knives and ducks.... hum... hope my luck holds out..[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

The ducks are prepared :), just let me know when you want to feed them :D!!!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

The ducks are prepared :), just let me know when you want to feed them :D!!!


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Surprisingly I did survive the meal with my ex and made it to the sports bar and even called in the beer garden girl to come over. She's throwing up in the bathroom right now due to the drinking games Mrs. G got her to play all night long thank you so much...

I hope a fresh brushing of the teeth and some water will fix the issues shortly...

[QUOTE=Centaurus]BESTARD ain't enough here, you BREASTARD you![/QUOTE]

Then get over to LL... I hear that some Bestard reserved a few and some of her friends for a jolly good blow out coming soon.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Surprisingly I did survive the meal with my ex and made it to the sports bar and even called in the beer garden girl to come over. She's throwing up in the bathroom right now due to the drinking games Mrs. G got her to play all night long thank you so much...

I hope a fresh brushing of the teeth and some water will fix the issues shortly...[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

You survived - for the moment. I saw the knife already ...

Need somebody to clean up the bathroom...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
I'm really nailing this trip down pat... just great successes. Buddha must be smiling for me right now :) Knock on wood I hope it keeps up. Think I"m actually going to see my ex for dinner as it is her B day... Restaurants knives and ducks.... hum... hope my luck holds out..[/QUOTE]
Dicks, ducks, fucks, and knives,
The restless dreams of a man with too many wives! :eek:

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Dicks, ducks, fucks, and knives,
The restless dreams of a man with too many wives! :eek:[/QUOTE]

I settled down yesterday. No afternoon session at all, that damn work thing. Then dinner with the ex and spent a night with a beer garden girl in the sports bar.

For some reason that doesn't sound right, taking a beer garden girl to Soi 33.... But she and the girls in the bar hung out well all night long, some girls I had BF'd before were a little not too friendly but most treated her great.

Just finished a few morning rounds with her and she's happy if I butterfly with certain girls and wants to bring a joiner, one of her friends, for a session. I'm telling you, my total dinner bill last night was more then what this girl is asking for.

Her younger sister arrives 5 am... saw pictures... hum... bad thoughts... I have enough trouble... have good things going... must stop bad thoughts... must go temple...

Got into the Lodge yesterday evening. Seems like I arrived a couple of nights too late from reading Tansak's posts. :(

For some reason I didn't sleep too good on the flight (even though they upgraded me to First) so was feeling a bit run down and tired. Couldn't not get some attention on first night in BKK but low on energy - long think, not up to a full on session but need to do something - answer, Sazanka. Scrub would do me good, maybe even wake me up a bit, and a happy ending.

Usual good treatment at Sazanka, washed, scrubbed, salt rubbed in wounds, steamed, walked on, pummelled, battered, rubbed down, happy ending. Nice young lady, very short but a wee bit rounded - photo definitely taken a couple of kilos ago - nice rack that she obliged to release during the happy ending. Felt better than when I went in but still tired.

Plan was to go to the Dubliner for a St Pat's celebration beer or two but when I stuck my head in there it was way to busy for me whilst feeling tired (not in the mood for a busy bar). Went over to the Londoner for a couple of beers and some food. They must have some of the cutest wait staff in BKK, specially the ones wearing the Beefeater outfits. Food was okay but, in my opinion, not as good as in LL. After that, early night, no Sports Lounge for me.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Got into the Lodge yesterday evening. Seems like I arrived a couple of nights too late from reading Tansak's posts. :([/QUOTE]

If you're still around, I'll pass by the LL on Friday Afternoon (around 2pm or so)

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Got into the Lodge yesterday evening. Seems like I arrived a couple of nights too late from reading Tansak's posts. :([/QUOTE]

Nah they will be happy to meet a gentleman finally after being stuck with bastards and bestards... We can go butterfly around but the Plans is to take a BKK Rookie, this english doctor, out to Cowboy on Friday night so reserve time for that. He's a bloke and a half...

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]May that be the reason why you previously have chosen the name liquor? oops, wrong spelling.[/QUOTE]
I definitely like Liqueurs too.

I hope to catch up with Sonic Bam shortly too for a wee dram or two.

ML

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]If you're still around, I'll pass by the LL on Friday Afternoon (around 2pm or so)[/QUOTE]
Are you forming a greeting party just for me? I won't have even had time to get my haircut.
Or is it to try to enforce my punishment.?

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Or is it to try to enforce my punishment.?[/QUOTE]

Yes, that's more like it ;)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]

I'm at 9 pops for 6,000 baht right now with 5 days to go.

[/QUOTE]

Sounds like you are getting your moneys worth. Almost sounds like a death wish (screwing yourself to death). Do you intend to keep this pace up for the next 5 days? If you do, you will be my NEW hero.

Slim

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]If you're still around, I'll pass by the LL on Friday Afternoon (around 2pm or so)[/QUOTE]
Oh bugger. I check out Friday morning for 6 days on the beach so will miss yourself, SF (or whatever nom de guerre we're up to now) and Tansak's Friday night sojourn to Soi Cowboy. Back here on the following Thursday for a couple of nights but I bet everybody will be gone by then.

Will meet up with Tansak tonight though. Giotto has warned me about Mrs. G's drinking games .......

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Back here on the following Thursday for a couple of nights but I bet everybody will be gone by then.

Will meet up with Tansak tonight though. Giotto has warned me about Mrs. G's drinking games .......[/QUOTE]

You lucky bugger - didn't make it out as hoped. Maybe late April or early May ;)

As we are doing the "when will you be at the Lodge"

I arrive Saturday 28th if anyone's around.

Last time had the pleasure of a couple of members for my first dinner at the LL.

Always interesting to put faces to profiles/posts!

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]You lucky bugger - didn't make it out as hoped. Maybe late April or early May ;)[/QUOTE]
Would have been good to see you again, mate.

Done the drinking game all night and I'm typing this with one eye shut, only way to focus straight. Alone. Will question Herr Doktor (or missus G) tomorrow with reference to ROI on lady drinks returns v. barfine and LT cost.

Tansak must be hurting or doing expense account to the death. Cheers fella! But with so many wives,that'll teach ya! Seriously though, that young lady from last night in the Lounge is gorgeous (wife number ....?) . :) (for Tansak not T1234)

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Oh bugger. I check out Friday morning for 6 days on the beach so will miss yourself, SF (or whatever nom de guerre we're up to now) and Tansak's Friday night sojourn to Soi Cowboy. Back here on the following Thursday for a couple of nights but I bet everybody will be gone by then.
[/QUOTE]
Well I might well catch you then, although I'm not yet sure which days I'm going to Krabi/Phi Phi.

ML

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Well I might well catch you then, although I'm not yet sure which days I'm going to Krabi/Phi Phi.

ML[/QUOTE]
I'm off to Koh Chang (White Beach) for six nights. Decided to try a different island / beach (G says cancel and go to Samet!) following trips to Samui (x2), Phi Phi and Phuket. Bangkok Airways flight and hotel are booked and paid for so will check out beach, hotel, restaurant a la Tripadvisor and if anything else occurs will report here as required.

If you are picking up a gik and decide on a trip to Chang then maybe I'll see you for a Pepsi. If not, maybe next week?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Nah they will be happy to meet a gentleman finally after being stuck with bastards and bestards... We can go butterfly around but the Plans is to take a BKK Rookie, this english doctor, out to Cowboy on Friday night so reserve time for that. He's a bloke and a half...[/QUOTE]

Oh, be sure to keep an eye out for a new tout..errr hostess... at Soi Cowboy who is too lazy to be a dancer. Very curious to see how that works out.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]I'm off to Koh Chang (White Beach) for six nights. Decided to try a different island / beach (G says cancel and go to Samet!) [/QUOTE]

He's right. Between Koh Chang and Koh Samet, I prefer Samet (by a clear mile)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]He's right. Between Koh Chang and Koh Samet, I prefer Samet (by a clear mile)[/QUOTE]
Samet is a lovely island. A bit quiet if you going for mongering, though there are a couple of bars there. If I were headed over there, I would try to BYOTG. I can't remember the name of the beach, but I remember there basically only being one beach area. Bungalows for about 1,000 Bt. You can pick out fresh fish on the beach and they wil cook it right there as the sun sets. very nice.

[QUOTE=Pita123]Oh, be sure to keep an eye out for a new tout..errr hostess... at Soi Cowboy who is too lazy to be a dancer. Very curious to see how that works out.[/QUOTE]

PM the details I think tomorrow will visit...

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Tansak must be hurting or doing expense account to the death. Cheers fella! But with so many wives,that'll teach ya! Seriously though, that young lady from last night in the Lounge is gorgeous (wife number ....?) . :) (for Tansak not T1234)[/QUOTE]

Which one? After some trials and training I pretty much settled on one from the bar as the other girls heard about me and won't go with me. Some crazy rumors about power and # of shots and such. I think it has to do with explaining what the nickname rabbit is about.

Anyways will have to change wife tonight as we finally got a great connection going with 1 of the girls, and wouldn't you know it,,, a visitor came to town... It's a good thing I have three in reserve from the bar.

[QUOTE=Nvslim]Sounds like you are getting your moneys worth. Almost sounds like a death wish (screwing yourself to death). Do you intend to keep this pace up for the next 5 days? If you do, you will be my NEW hero.

Slim[/QUOTE]

Well, today is a special day for me with her, after work today before hitting the bars, she will bring over One or Two friends with her (up to her, her choice, her decision, her wish and want).

Who am I to say no? She's earned a bonus. And no I've settled to about six or seven a day instead of just in one night. I'm slowing down in my old age and need to save up some strength for my new MNL girl.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]He's right. Between Koh Chang and Koh Samet, I prefer Samet (by a clear mile)[/QUOTE]
Okay, a few good recommendations there. will look into Samet for a visit on my next trip.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Which one? [/QUOTE]
The one sitting on your right all night. I think she left with you?

Anyway, I was racking my brain trying to remember who she looks like (to me anyway) and I think it is the actress Grace Park who plays Boomer in Battlestar Galactica. Very pretty.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]The one sitting on your right all night. I think she left with you?

Anyway, I was racking my brain trying to remember who she looks like (to me anyway) and I think it is the actress Grace Park who plays Boomer in Battlestar Galactica. Very pretty.[/QUOTE]

Yeah we hit it off the best but she's out of the game for a few days as we were trying to break some endurance records last night.

But I digress... Beer Garden Girl just arrived with friends.. Sorry mate will fill you in on stories later...

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Yeah we hit it off the best but she's out of the game for a few days as we were trying to break some endurance records last night.

But I digress... Beer Garden Girl just arrived with friends.. Sorry mate will fill you in on stories later...[/QUOTE]
You bastard. Stop breaking these poor girls. Don't you feel any sympathy :( At least be gentle!

Soon someone will be saying "Poor crippled ML with the limp. That girl tried to break him." ;)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]He's right. Between Koh Chang and Koh Samet, I prefer Samet (by a clear mile)[/QUOTE]
Nic,

I have been to Samet but nearly 15 years ago. I stayed at Haat Saai Kaew (Crystal Sand beach). But it wasn't very developed back then.
Where is best place to go these days on Samet Island?

I suppose they still have limited water supply?

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]You bastard. Stop breaking these poor girls. Don't you feel any sympathy :( At least be gentle! [/QUOTE]

Hoy... I take good care of them and am gentle and they were all willing participants especially the one last night. She was the one that could match up stroke for stroke pretty damn close as long as she got alternate nights off. Trust me, everyone in the bar knows all about me, had some girls say "Sorry I like you, you are good man but I am afraid to boom boom too much. 1 time 2 time OK but more... Oh I no can do... " Which I like, atleast there's no bull shit from the girls promising crap they can't do.

And I try to get in a few rounds before hitting the bars, just had the Beer Garden girl bring a joiner to get in a few pops. I told BG girl about this other LL girl being out of action (they know about each other, they have been alternating days or one day and one night and even shared one night). When she heard that I might have to go to alternate wife tonight she said the magic words every guy wants to hear... "Do you want me to go bring girl tonight, how many you want, one two three???" Then I heard, "I want you happy, you want me change girl tomorrow or get same same for you?"

I'm telling you this BG girl is a keeper. I might bring her Friday to lunch but I'm afraid you bestards might try to take her away from me. She's the best investment I've made in years. The joiner left but she's still in bed, so.. I guess time for another round...

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Nic,

I have been to Samet but nearly 15 years ago. I stayed at Haat Saai Kaew (Crystal Sand beach). But it wasn't very developed back then.
Where is best place to go these days on Samet Island?

I suppose they still have limited water supply?[/QUOTE]

Just book this place, a real paradise... white sand Beach and first class accomodation
[url]http://www.paradeeresort.com/html/index.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV] I might bring her Friday to lunch but I'm afraid you bestards might try to take her away from me. She's the best investment I've made in years. The joiner left but she's still in bed, so.. I guess time for another round...[/QUOTE]

Great!!! I'll be there for lunch then :D

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Just book this place, a real paradise... white sand Beach and first class accomodation
[url]http://www.paradeeresort.com/html/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]

It wants to be 'paradise' at that price. Best I managed is around 13K Baht per night for the basic Garden Villa.

Samet may be nice, however I am off to the best hotel in Koh Chang (see Tripadvisor) for 1200 Baht a night inc Breakfast and free WiFi - most important. Take a look at the Garden Resort, could be termed simple and paradise too.

Cheers, FF

[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]It wants to be 'paradise' at that price. Best I managed is around 13K Baht per night for the basic Garden Villa.

Samet may be nice, however I am off to the best hotel in Koh Chang (see Tripadvisor) for 1200 Baht a night inc Breakfast and free WiFi - most important. Take a look at the Garden Resort, could be termed simple and paradise too.

Cheers, FF[/QUOTE][url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g580110-d671622-Reviews-Kai_Bae_Garden_Resort-Koh_Chang.html[/url]

[url]http://www.gardenresortkohchang.com/en/roomrates.html[/url]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Great!!! I'll be there for lunch then :D[/QUOTE]

You bloody well organized the lunch so you better be there. Closed the bar down again but surprisingly we were all sober tonight.

Tomorrow night, we will venture to Cowboy as we have some rookies around if anyone wants to head out for a moment. Starting from LL...

Was an interesting night, seems I've created a tad bit of a reputation of myself and I'm running out of girls to try. After the afternoon session I find myself without much power and there's a beautiful woman in the shower...

So off to the races... we'll see if any work gets done tomorrow or if I wake up just in time to make it for lunch. :)

Finally, I visited LL the other night, Tuesday, after arriving. The staff was great and easy to engage. The servers appeared to ensure that I had everything that I needed, i.e., drinks, even though I am staying elsewhere. Also, I had the opportunity to meet the Leader. This is always a treat.

I have an inquiry. I interacted with Nang or Ning. I believe that was her name. She is short and a caramel complexion. Hmmm, did I describe half the population?? :) In any event, I had a very nice time chatting and playing pool with her. I did not mind buying her drinks, as I was having an enjoyable time. Now, here comes the situation. When we started talking about doing LT at my hotel, she quotes 4,000. Yes, 4,000 for LT. Now, this is my first trip, but I have been around the planet a little. I was nice and polite, but told her that 4,000 was not within the range of possibilities. She gave a very nice argument about the quality of girls at LL, how they interact, and their social skills. Her presentation earned her an A+ in my class; however, the 4,000 was not to be.

I ended it on a good note. We chatted some more, then I told her that a friend called on my cell phone. "It's always on vibrate." In fairness to the boss, he was busy, he told me to return later to talk. I am not looking to push the girl under the bus or anything. Again, she is a very nice girl with GREAT social skills. However, I was not simply going to give her 4,000 for LT.

If any of you guys know this girl, or think that you do, give me some feedback. BTW, found a girl the next day at NEP. Did the LT for 2,000 plus bar fine, and it was a GREAT experience. She was sad when I kicked her out at 8:30 A.M. under pretext of an appointment.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Professor 1]I have an inquiry. I interacted with Nang or Ning. I believe that was her name. She is short and a caramel complexion. Hmmm, did I describe half the population?? :) In any event, I had a very nice time chatting and playing pool with her. I did not mind buying her drinks, as I was having an enjoyable time. Now, here comes the situation. When we started talking about doing LT at my hotel, she quotes 4,000. Yes, 4,000 for LT. Now, this is my first trip, but I have been around the planet a little. I was nice and polite, but told her that 4,000 was not within the range of possibilities. She gave a very nice argument about the quality of girls at LL, how they interact, and their social skills. Her presentation earned her an A+ in my class; however, the 4,000 was not to be.

I ended it on a good note. We chatted some more, then I told her that a friend called on my cell phone. "It's always on vibrate." In fairness to the boss, he was busy, he told me to return later to talk. I am not looking to push the girl under the bus or anything. Again, she is a very nice girl with GREAT social skills. However, I was not simply going to give her 4,000 for LT.

If any of you guys know this girl, or think that you do, give me some feedback. BTW, found a girl the next day at NEP. Did the LT for 2,000 plus bar fine, and it was a GREAT experience. She was sad when I kicked her out at 8:30 A.M. under pretext of an appointment.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Feedback on what? Ning is her name. The "Boss" will not get involved with what the girls ask for. It would not help you to go negotiate what the girls as for with the Boss. It is not any of their business.

Some girls will do 3 K some 4 K some more or less. She was not cheating you, she can pick and choose who she goes with. As you saw yourself she was articulate educated fun and nice, she could work any place she wants to work not just NEP or LL or such, so she will hold out for 4 K if she wants.

You were not being bull shitted by her.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Some girls will do 3 K some 4 K some more or less. She was not cheating you, she can pick and choose who she goes with..[/QUOTE]
And with the awesome choice available in BKK, so can we.....

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]As you saw yourself she was articulate educated fun and nice, she could work any place she wants to work not just NEP or LL or such, so she will hold out for 4 K if she wants..[/QUOTE]
With Customer levels as they are at the moment - I sincerely doubt that. In any case IMHO it is fairly easy to find a girl equally educated, articulate and nice, and at half the price too.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You were not being bull shitted by her.[/QUOTE]
Maybe not, but at the end of the day a solid price of 4K LT is still damn steep in anybody's book.

By the way I am no Cheap Charlie, I have often given 3, 4 or more, some I have taken shopping, bought all sorts and maybe spent 10K, however it was my choice to do so.
Particularly when a 2K girl really rings my bell, I will make sure she gets a deserved tip. However a 4K starter wouldnt even get past the door.

Cheers, FF

[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Maybe not, but at the end of the day a solid price of 4K LT is still damn steep in anybody's book.[/QUOTE]

But this is for Her to decide.

She is not dumb and knows what the market prices are, if she feels she is worth 4k, then this is what she is going to price herself at.
Complaining to the manager isn't going to help.

She quotes 4k and if you don't like it, simply tell her it is over your budget and walk away. Hell, she might even help you find a girl that suits your budget ;)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Feedback on what? Ning is her name.

Some girls will do 3 K some 4 K some more or less. She was not cheating you, she can pick and choose who she goes with. As you saw yourself she was articulate educated fun and nice, she could work any place she wants to work not just NEP or LL or such, so she will hold out for 4 K if she wants.

You were not being bull shitted by her.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. You answered my question. The quote seemed steep, but I agree that she can charge whatever the market bears. It simply seemed high based upon what I was reading on the board prior to arriving. Thanks, again.

Oh, I had lunch at LL today, and it was outstanding. After eating, I went back to my hotel and took a four-hour nap.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]But this is for Her to decide.

She is not dumb and knows what the market prices are, if she feels she is worth 4k, then this is what she is going to price herself at.
Complaining to the manager isn't going to help.

She quotes 4k and if you don't like it, simply tell her it is over your budget and walk away. Hell, she might even help you find a girl that suits your budget ;)[/QUOTE]

I was not complaining, I simply was trying to gather a sense for what is "normal" in the place. There was no one else around to bounce the quote when I was there. She is worth what she feels she is worth; however, the quote appeared to be a highballer based upon my ignorance. In another life, I would not have blinked. Then, I joined ISG.

[QUOTE=Professor 1]Oh, I had lunch at LL today, and it was outstanding. After eating, I went back to my hotel and took a four-hour nap.[/QUOTE]
Without a four-K girl I presume :D

Cheers, FF

[QUOTE=Professor 1]I was not complaining, I simply was trying to gather a sense for what is "normal" in the place. There was no one else around to bounce the quote when I was there. She is worth what she feels she is worth; however, the quote appeared to be a highballer based upon my ignorance. In another life, I would not have blinked. Then, I joined ISG.[/QUOTE]

Just wanted to echo NicFenchy words. I think I mentioned in an earier post that the requested rate would be between 3000-4000 baht. Undoubtedly there are much cheaper girls available in BKK but I found the FE with the girls at LL to be unsurpassed (again reflected in earlier posts).

Good that you asked the girl before so as to preclude the possibility of an unplesant experience

[QUOTE=Professor 1]I was not complaining, I simply was trying to gather a sense for what is "normal" in the place. There was no one else around to bounce the quote when I was there. She is worth what she feels she is worth; however, the quote appeared to be a highballer based upon my ignorance. In another life, I would not have blinked. Then, I joined ISG.[/QUOTE]

Tansak gave you probably the best answer - essentially she feels a combination of this is what the market will accept and what she thinks she's worth. She was not taking advantage of a newbie or trying to rip you off...LL girls aren't allowed to do that and management is very good about complaints, etc.

But - Soi 33 is not cheap. In fact (and I'm sure I'll get slammed for this and lose my marketing director position) I personally think it's getting overpriced....it wasn't too long ago that the girls at LL were normally getting 2.5 to 3K for LT. If you add the barfine, the recent pricing means you getting close to $200 - that same amount would get you two monster sessions at Tulips.

I haven't visited since last September so maybe the girls have been 'upgraded' :D

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]But - Soi 33 is not cheap. In fact (and I'm sure I'll get slammed for this and lose my marketing director position) I personally think it's getting overpriced....it wasn't too long ago that the girls at LL were normally getting 2.5 to 3K for LT. If you add the barfine, the recent pricing means you getting close to $200 - that same amount would get you two monster sessions at Tulips.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Traveler. I got the sense that Soi 33 is not cheap, especially for a first timer who found an impressive LT GFE in Nana the previous night for 2,000. I did not want to rush to judgment; hence, my posting the request for comments on this board. Had my first experience been bad, then 4,000 would not have have raised an eyebrow.

Also, I wanted to get a feel for things if I had accepted an academic appointment here. Such issues do factor into job decisions. Since I declined, it becomes a moot issue. I hope that no one thinks that I was slamming the girl, I was not. I had a great time with her at the Lodge, and everyone treated me better than some members of my family. I simply wanted to know how things were in that area prior to forming an opinion.

I will certainly visit, again, if for nothing other than eating. I loved the food. Thanks, again, for feedback. I really appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Without a four-K girl I presume :D

Cheers, FF[/QUOTE]

Sounds like the nap was without a 1K or 2K girl even.

Good evening gents, sorry to interrupt the lively debate but I have some banal questions relevant to the procurement of lodgings at Mr. Giotto's accomodation emporium so please feel free to ignore the rest of this post.

Right, now we've got rid of the riffraff, it appears I am being offered an allowance of up to around the awe-inspiring sum of 65 Euros per night for about 2 weeks in the fair city of Bangkok in May or possibly June.

From perusal of the intahwebs I have ascertained that this will be sufficient for at least the lowest class of sleeping enclosure (though I see the ISG discount appears to have tragically expired). However as this is nominally a business trip I will need to be spending at least part of each day communing via the aforementioned series of tubes. In this regard hence my enquiry, is it any bloody good? 'Tis not my intention to upload or download vast amounts, or indeed any amounts, of illicit data, but I will be doing geeky stuff involving non-standard ports (fear not, I have the names and addresses of discrete locations for non-geeky stuff involving non-standard ports) and it would put my mind at rest to be assured this is possible without constantly drooping connections. Also, are wired (Ethernet) connections available in all rooms?

Additionally, from reading through this thread one could get the impression that the Lodge is a wild party house with all sorts of hanky-panky going on, but would it be safe to assume that during the daylight hours a modicum of peace reigns?

All responses most graciously received.

[QUOTE=Professor 1]
I will certainly visit, again, if for nothing other than eating. I loved the food. Thanks, again, for feedback. I really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully not everyone of them is now charging 4K LT....but I'll have to respectfully defer to Tansak, Sonic Bam and others who have been visiting recently.

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Good evening gents, sorry to interrupt the lively debate but I have some banal questions relevant to the procurement of lodgings at Mr. Giotto's accomodation emporium so please feel free to ignore the rest of this post.

Right, now we've got rid of the riffraff, it appears I am being offered an allowance of up to around the awe-inspiring sum of 65 Euros per night for about 2 weeks in the fair city of Bangkok in May or possibly June.

From perusal of the intahwebs I have ascertained that this will be sufficient for at least the lowest class of sleeping enclosure (though I see the ISG discount appears to have tragically expired). However as this is nominally a business trip I will need to be spending at least part of each day communing via the aforementioned series of tubes. In this regard hence my enquiry, is it any bloody good? 'Tis not my intention to upload or download vast amounts, or indeed any amounts, of illicit data, but I will be doing geeky stuff involving non-standard ports (fear not, I have the names and addresses of discrete locations for non-geeky stuff involving non-standard ports) and it would put my mind at rest to be assured this is possible without constantly drooping connections. Also, are wired (Ethernet) connections available in all rooms?

Additionally, from reading through this thread one could get the impression that the Lodge is a wild party house with all sorts of hanky-panky going on, but would it be safe to assume that during the daylight hours a modicum of peace reigns?

All responses most graciously received.[/QUOTE]Indeed forsooth at turn of day it is most pleasant by the pool with no fellow jesters at play. I cannot find comment on matters mercantile but know of many who do ply their trade in said accommodation.
It is without remonstrance the finest purveyor of marketable lodging in the area and welcomes a whole plethora of Chaucerian characters - the Wife of Bath being especially at hand!

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Good evening gents, sorry to interrupt the lively debate but I have some banal questions relevant to the procurement of lodgings at Mr. Giotto's accomodation emporium so please feel free to ignore the rest of this post.

Right, now we've got rid of the riffraff, it appears I am being offered an allowance of up to around the awe-inspiring sum of 65 Euros per night for about 2 weeks in the fair city of Bangkok in May or possibly June.

From perusal of the intahwebs I have ascertained that this will be sufficient for at least the lowest class of sleeping enclosure (though I see the ISG discount appears to have tragically expired). However as this is nominally a business trip I will need to be spending at least part of each day communing via the aforementioned series of tubes. In this regard hence my enquiry, is it any bloody good? 'Tis not my intention to upload or download vast amounts, or indeed any amounts, of illicit data, but I will be doing geeky stuff involving non-standard ports (fear not, I have the names and addresses of discrete locations for non-geeky stuff involving non-standard ports) and it would put my mind at rest to be assured this is possible without constantly drooping connections. Also, are wired (Ethernet) connections available in all rooms?

Additionally, from reading through this thread one could get the impression that the Lodge is a wild party house with all sorts of hanky-panky going on, but would it be safe to assume that during the daylight hours a modicum of peace reigns?

All responses most graciously received.[/QUOTE]
I can only answer your last question, because I have absolutely no idea what you are going on about with the other stuff you are asking.

LL is very quiet during the day. Even when fully booked, you will most times find yourself the only one lounging in the pool, or sitting in the open area. IMHO, best non street Thai food in BKK. So go there for lunch, and enjoy a swim. If the Burgermeister asks you if you are staying there, as you are swimming, tell him the VP said it was ok. Get a robe and a towel, all with my compliments. Drinks and lunch are on Tansak.

Good luck with the rest..........

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Additionally, from reading through this thread one could get the impression that the Lodge is a wild party house with all sorts of hanky-panky going on, but would it be safe to assume that during the daylight hours a modicum of peace reigns?[/QUOTE]

I am fairly new to this scene, so take my comments with a grain of salt. I would not characterize the place as a "wild party house." It is a fine, classy establishment. It is certainly NOT the Hotel Del Rey in San Jose, Costa Rica, which may be taken in any manner that you desire. I found the staff members and girls to be kind and entertaining, but not overwhelming.

I visited during the day for a drink and lunch. During the noon hour, I was one of very few people in the dining area, which was a nice break from the crowds in the streets. Also, as I said previously, the food was very, very good. I may have overdosed on the pineapple shake, though. I still hear it calling my name in the night.

[QUOTE=Professor 1]Finally, I visited LL the other night, Tuesday, after arriving. The staff was great and easy to engage.
...
I have an inquiry. I interacted with Nang or Ning. I believe that was her name. She is short and a caramel complexion. Hmmm, did I describe half the population?? :) In any event, I had a very nice time chatting and playing pool with her. I did not mind buying her drinks, as I was having an enjoyable time. Now, here comes the situation. When we started talking about doing LT at my hotel, she quotes 4,000. Yes, 4,000 for LT.
...
[/QUOTE]Professor 1,

Thanks for visiting the Lodge - good to meet you that night, though it was only for a minute or so.

You talked to Ning that night, and Ning is one of the girls who works here for years now. She has a huge number of returning customers, and there is no reason for her to go for less than she asks for - the next customer will come and pay accordingly.

Ning is highly appreciated by most customers - many of them return to meet her again. She stays with customers all day long, shows them around in Bangkok, she provides a real GFE experience, and customers looking for this kind of experience can hardly make a better choice here in this area.

In general the scene here in Soi 33 is different from Soi Nana, Soi Cowboy or even Nana parking lot, and so are the prices.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Hopefully not everyone of them is now charging 4K LT....but I'll have to respectfully defer to Tansak, Sonic Bam and others who have been visiting recently.[/QUOTE]

Look, some maybe won't even charge a dime!! I guess when you're a guy like Tansak who fucks 7 times a night, some girls just might do it for free.

Yesterday was a quite interesting day for me:

I had Lunch with Tansak & his Lovely Beergarden lady, she's cute as a button and the perfect wife material! She loves him so much that when she can't perform, she brings her friends to help.

Now he just brought back a lady from LL (which he screwed 7 times in one sitting) before the lunch, and was ready to go again to please the Beergarden lady! She also confirmed she knows he is a butterfly but she wanted him screwing her a few times in the afternoon.

Centaurus joined us but had to leave very quickly to do some Flower shoping (I think he opted for Tulips :D )

Mick (Soap Fan) checked in in the afternoon (as I was about to go to a massage place) and had his evening all booked with a superstar (named undisclosed)

In the evening, HAd a drink with Plasmids (What a great and fun guy! mate, anytime you want to do this again, let me know) and Tansak.

Now I got to meet the Lady Tansak took 2 nights ago and she confirmed that the man does NOT sleep! LT with Tansak means 7 rounds of sex and no shut-eye. That is why many of the LL girls won't even come anywhere near him when he is looking for a barfine.
Now this girl is as crazy as he is because she let herself be barfined again. She claimed never to have met a guy who fucked her like this before.

Now I look like a beginner with my 3 shot afternoon session @ dream massage on soi 31 :(
but happy to know that I am back in the game of shooting multiple loads in a session.

Tansak, stop fucking for a second, take a deep breath adn come online share a little forum time with us.

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]...
Also, are wired (Ethernet) connections available in all rooms?

Additionally, from reading through this thread one could get the impression that the Lodge is a wild party house with all sorts of hanky-panky going on, but would it be safe to assume that during the daylight hours a modicum of peace reigns?
...
[/QUOTE]Gaienmae08,

We have wired ethernet connections in all rooms, sometimes needed, if the wireless sginal is not strong enough in an area.

Livingstone's Lodge is NOT a wild party house - it is more a peaceful oasis in the center of Bangkok. Sometimes - if the right group of customers meet in the bar - a spontaneous party develops, but this happens only once a while.

The ISG discount is NOT expired - I only forgot to update that report/thread.


Giotto

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Look, some maybe won't even charge a dime!! I guess when you're a guy like Tansak who fucks 7 times a night, some girls just might do it for free.
...
In the evening, HAd a drink with Plasmids (What a great and fun guy! mate, anytime you want to do this again, let me know) and Tansak.
...
Tansak, stop fucking for a second, take a deep breath adn come online share a little forum time with us.[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,

I think "The Rabbit (KTV)" is still busy ... he tries to break the world record :) !

And in regards of Plasmids: [b]It is all his fault!!![/b] :D



Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]NicFrenchy,

I think "The Rabbit (KTV)" is still busy ... he tries to break the world record :) !

And in regards of Plasmids: [b]It is all his fault!!![/b] :D



Giotto[/QUOTE]

"the Rabbit (KTV)" hahahahaha I love it! :D

[QUOTE=Giotto]Gaienmae08,

We have wired ethernet connections in all rooms, sometimes needed, if the wireless sginal is not strong enough in an area.[/QUOTE]Excellent. Do you have any funny firewall stuff set up, basically I will be wanting to use services like FTP and SSH and sometimes they are blocked by over-zealous setups. (If you've no idea what I'm talking about I can PM you some simple details how to check this from any PC).

[QUOTE=Giotto]Livingstone's Lodge is NOT a wild party house. It is more a peaceful oasis in the center of Bangkok. Sometimes. If the right group of customers meet in the bar. A spontaneous party develops, but this happens only once a while.[/QUOTE]This is what I thought and hoped, just reading through the threads one gets the fleeting impression of bestards chasing girls up and down the hallways etc.

No, seriously, from what I've read elsewhere sounds like a nice relaxed place.

One more question: do the windows in the rooms actually open? It looks like it from the photos. (I hate being cooped up in hotel rooms without any access to the outside world).

[QUOTE=Giotto]The ISG discount is NOT expired. I only forgot to update that report/thread.

Giotto[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll contact you with a booking enquiry when my travel plans are more definite.

Thanks to 1Ball and Professor 1 for their comments as well, and to Tansak in advance for drinks and lunch.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]"the Rabbit (KTV)" hahahahaha I love it! :D[/QUOTE]
Could be the "Monkey". They seem to go at it like rabbits too. Time for screw and shoot seems to be often well under a minute. LOL
But we must bare in mind that these animals have little weight to carry or support and so don't get tired.

Maybe Tansak is closer to a Gorilla, although I haven't either of them screwing.

[QUOTE=Giotto]
Livingstone's Lodge is NOT a wild party house - it is more a peaceful oasis in the center of Bangkok. Sometimes - if the right group of customers meet in the bar - a spontaneous party develops, but this happens only once a while.
[/QUOTE]
I had a very peaceful dinner at LL last night and turned in early ;)
There could well have been a wild party going in the sports bar, but outside of the bar I was totally oblivious to what was going on inside. Actually the wild parties are probably not so frequent. Usually on special nights like New Year's Eve, for example, or when Tansak plays drinking games I guess.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Hopefully not everyone of them is now charging 4K LT....but I'll have to respectfully defer to Tansak, Sonic Bam and others who have been visiting recently.[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm, I should perhaps be looking out for ducks and knives when I get back next week ......

I barfined a lady Thursday night and gave her 3K in the morning without even asking how much assuming it was still the standard rate for a Sports Lounge lady. Saying that, I would not have gone to 4K before or after if I had asked how much she wanted.

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Good evening gents, sorry to interrupt the lively debate but I have some banal questions relevant to the procurement of lodgings [/QUOTE]
I concur with your previous replies. You could do a lot worse for a working environment sitting by the pool during the day. The wifi connection there is good and reliable. It is a mostly quiet and peaceful place to sit and relax (or work). There is some construction work going on quite near to LL but I hardly noticed any noise by the pool.

[QUOTE=Giotto]You talked to Ning that night, and Ning is one of the girls who works here for years now. She has a huge number of returning customers, and there is no reason for her to go for less than she asks for. The next customer will come and pay accordingly.

Ning is highly appreciated by most customers. Many of them return to meet her again. She stays with customers all day long, shows them around in Bangkok, she provides a real GFE experience, and customers looking for this kind of experience can hardly make a better choice here in this area.

I can definitely back that statement from Giotto up. I barfined Ning last December for 4 nights and went to Jomtien. Very pleasant personality, pretty good English skills and very good 'other' skills as well. For a small girl she is able to handle her Tequila very well.

I do remember a (drunken) night in which I attempted to arrange a threesome with Ning and another (non LVS) girl which unfortunately didn't come to fruition.

Giotto thought it was so funny at the time he even composed a song about that night

I never discussed money with Ning, but don't think she was disappointed with the parting gift.

Anyway, just my $0. 02 about Ning.

P.S. : Giotto, plans for May are firming up will let you know definitive dates shortly.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Hmmmm, I should perhaps be looking out for ducks and knives when I get back next week ......

I barfined a lady Thursday night and gave her 3K in the morning without even asking how much assuming it was still the standard rate for a Sports Lounge lady. Saying that, I would not have gone to 4K before or after if I had asked how much she wanted.[/QUOTE]

This appears more with what I thought is the current 'market' price at LL. Maybe it also helped that you are a 'returning' patron.....I know my wingman still gives his girl at LL the same as when they first met two yrs ago (w/ no complaints) and she is one of the more popular girls.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]This appears more with what I thought is the current 'market' price at LL. Maybe it also helped that you are a 'returning' patron. I know my wingman still gives his girl at LL the same as when they first met two yrs ago (w/ no complaints) and she is one of the more popular girls.[/QUOTE] I'm just too soft. Last year first night 3000 then for the 24hr shift I gave 6000 (LTx2 or LLT? )

Still will all be worth it when this thime next week I'll be at LL!

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Could be the "Monkey". They seem to go at it like rabbits too. Time for screw and shoot seems to be often well under a minute. LOL
But we must bare in mind that these animals have little weight to carry or support and so don't get tired.

Maybe Tansak is closer to a Gorilla, although I haven't either of them screwing.[/QUOTE]

LOL.. my current Wife is asleep in bed and I'm still wide awake at 3 am ready to go. Maybe I should have taken her up on her proposal that on my last night here we should take another girl to bed with us. But trust me, I go much longer then a minute, ask the staff :)

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Eve, for example, or when Tansak plays drinking games I guess.[/QUOTE]

I drink Diet Coke and recover in peace in the Bar, I have no idea what you are talking about. My afternoon Wife walks me to the sports bar and kisses me goodbye to the Evening wife. LL is a place to go for peace and quiet and recharge your batteries.

The evening wife walks me back to LL for lunch or so and kisses me good bye and the afternoon wife takes over from there.

I have no idea what all you are talking about wild parties. Confused...

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Tansak, stop fucking for a second, take a deep breath adn come online share a little forum time with us.[/QUOTE]

Ok it's 3 am and she's asleep.. what all you want to know. :)

[QUOTE=Stiffoak 571]I'm just too soft. Last year first night 3000 then for the 24hr shift I gave 6000 (LTx2 or LLT? )

Still will all be worth it when this thime next week I'll be at LL![/QUOTE]

I never talk money, I give them drinks and any girl I bar fine from soi 33 I give 4 K, but I'm getting multiple shots. And they work hard. I've put them out of business for the next night usually so I probably underpay.

Unfortunately the girls don't seem to buy the bull shit that I'm an old fat man with no power.. pretty soon they will be charging more.. or doing it for free to see if the stories are true.

[QUOTE=Stiffoak 571]I'm just too soft. Last year first night 3000 then for the 24hr shift I gave 6000 (LTx2 or LLT? )

Still will all be worth it when this thime next week I'll be at LL![/QUOTE]

That's why she kept on sending you sms after your visit, telling you how much of a sweetheart you are :D

But the most important thing is you thought she was worth every penny and had a good time. These gals are super street smart - but they are equally great companions. In your particular case it was a win win for both parties!

I'll write a report later, or maybe keep it private, the last three days were more then just shagging, I had fun with two girls (sometimes joiners were brought but there were mostly just two girls) and I like them a lot. I think it's probably best keeping it private. What I could share would be giving away what they shared with me and that would not be right as it was not just a cash transaction.

The first few days were a little crazy and hectic but now the girls can relax and the ones that are afraid can come back to work as I won't be around tonight. But don't worry, I won't warn you for the next time, I'll just show up in the bar and see the girls run for the change room :) Hopefully I'll keep in touch with the two gems I found for myself and won't have to go through this again. But it was a fun interview process :)

There's a lot of sweet ladies in the bar, honest, kind, and personalities are wonderful. They can show you a good time and best of all, they were all honest girls. No bull shit or crap like other places you can get. 33 isn't NEP or Nana Parking Lot and yes you can find some hidden gems in places like Beer Garden but you have to dig through a lot of crap to find it. I got lucky right off the bat and grabbed it up all for myself right away.

That's one thing, you find someone you like then wrap it up for a while. Bar Fine long time or such. I butterfly for long time till I found one I like. Once I found the good one, I take her long time so I don't have to worry if she might be around or not.

However unless you know them, I would not take the first girl for long time, be a butterfly to find what you like, then when you are sure of things, go back to the one that is the best for you and keep it for a while. On the 2nd and 3rd day things are much more better between the two of you. As any relationship would go.

Hope to come back and take long time, hopefully one of the two will be around still. Cheers, always fun and had a great time was some new members. I even got a gift of a big butterfly from one member and his mate. Now it is time to shag a little, a little breakfast, and off to the airport to see if I still have a GF in MNL.. but I don't think I'll be able to perform. I think I left all my sperm in Thailand...

Got in a taxi with a sweet little girl, on our way to the airport, Manila called me, canceling my meetings, look at the girl on my arm, and immediately call my reservations up and try to switch tickets over.

Get to airport pay a 2,000 baht penalty to swtich days, still get first class, but stay an extra two days. Little lady happy, me happy, Livingstones and Giotto pissed...

Right when they think I am going I come back. Like a bad viral infection... Where's that damn British doctor when you need him... Oh yeah right, he left. So I guess the rabbits will have to go at it for two more days.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Got in a taxi with a sweet little girl, on our way to the airport, Manila called me, canceling my meetings, look at the girl on my arm, and immediately call my reservations up and try to switch tickets over.

Get to airport pay a 2,000 baht penalty to swtich days, still get first class, but stay an extra two days. Little lady happy, me happy, Livingstones and Giotto pissed...

Right when they think I am going I come back. Like a bad viral infection... Where's that damn British doctor when you need him... Oh yeah right, he left. So I guess the rabbits will have to go at it for two more days.[/QUOTE]
But Tansak was due to catch up his sleep on the plane, so I couldn't find him. Trust he did decide to sleep just a bit. :o

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]But Tansak was due to catch up his sleep on the plane, so I couldn't find him. Trust he did decide to sleep just a bit. :o[/QUOTE]

Sorry to disappoint, or to keep upholding the tradition, was not sleeping..

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]That's why she kept on sending you sms after your visit, telling you how much of a sweetheart you are :D

But the most important thing is you thought she was worth every penny and had a good time. These gals are super street smart - but they are equally great companions. In your particular case it was a win win for both parties![/QUOTE]Already excited about the moment on Saturday when I wander into the bar - do I wait for company or get Mamasan bring someone over?

Last year it was pre-ordained in that I'd read about her in a previous report (evil penival think it was ) so asked "who is Tack?" and she was brought before me for approval! Want to work harder this time.

[QUOTE=Stiffoak 571]Already excited about the moment on Saturday when I wander into the bar - do I wait for company or get Mamasan bring someone over?
[/QUOTE]

You're a returning guest and old timer by now.

Either will work - I'm not update on mamasan - Tansak can you lend a hand to this nice gentleman?

[QUOTE=Stiffoak 571]Already excited about the moment on Saturday when I wander into the bar - do I wait for company or get Mamasan bring someone over?

Last year it was pre-ordained in that I'd read about her in a previous report (evil penival think it was ) so asked "who is Tack?" and she was brought before me for approval! Want to work harder this time.[/QUOTE]

Girls will immediately bring you towel like before then some or one will come talk to you, you are welcome to look at all the girls and call any one or two or three over for drinks, talk to them, get to know them etc...

Mamasan is Nat now, she's a great lady. Enjoy I will be gone by then.

Lots of new(er) girls and some real good ones. If you like you are free to PM me, I don't post girls names in the forum but am happy to offer advice if you tell me what you like.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
Mamasan is Nat now, she's a great lady.[/QUOTE]
Actually she isn't the most subtle lady around. Don't be suprised if she is quite direct.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Actually she isn't the most subtle lady around. Don't be suprised if she is quite direct.[/QUOTE]

I met her on Friday adn absolutely Loved her! I love direct women! no bullshit.
Maybe she has a little French Blood in her? :)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Sorry to disappoint, or to keep upholding the tradition, was not sleeping..[/QUOTE]

You know, I think the Energizer Bunny has Nothing on you! damn you might even be more efficient than a dildo.
I am sure the Dildo's batteried would run out before you can get exhausted.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]There's a lot of sweet ladies in the bar, honest, kind, and personalities are wonderful. They can show you a good time and best of all, they were all honest girls. No bull shit or crap like other places you can get. [/QUOTE]

I have to agree.

I usually see the ladies when they come to work, as I mostly sit at the Boss's Table. I never really found the girls to be great looking but Friday, when I was at the bar, I certainly changed my mind.

Ok, I am very bad with names but the Mamasan was very nice, and Miss Ning was a real delight to be around, very good girl and very intelligent!
The other Lady was very good looking but a little too shy for me, and English wasn't her forte. However, the Doc allowed her to join a handsome customer that was eyeing her all night (give her a chance to get barfined).

I can see how many customers can get attached to these girls, they are far from the "hardened" pros you see at NEP or SC.
I think if you would take the Sports bar out of the equation, you could really think they are non P4P girls.

Well, except for one... Miss Rabbitt who is the only girl that can Fuck Mr "Energizer Bunny KTV" to death.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I met her on Friday adn absolutely Loved her! I love direct women! no bullshit.
Maybe she has a little French Blood in her? :)[/QUOTE]
She is might be barfinable for a handsome direct man like you! ;)

Yesterday while playing pool, Tansak tells me that the ladies want us to drop our pants and show the goods.
Really? I am a bit concerned in case Giotto finds out as he could lose his license. :(
But in the end I ask which girl wants to see and Tansak points out Miss ****. So I say to Miss ****, O.K. if you want to see you have to take my pants off yourself.
She says no no! She doesn't want to see mine, just Tansak's size only.
Should I be hurt? :confused:
I hope at least some girls were disappointed to miss out on a show.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...
I usually see the ladies when they come to work, as I mostly sit at the Boss's Table. I never really found the girls to be great looking but Friday, when I was at the bar, I certainly changed my mind.
...
[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,

Thanks ... we do our very best :) .

But honestly - it varies over the time, sometimes more beautiful, sometimes less, girls are coming and going.

As for you, handsome or not, after "The Rabbit KTV" spoiled the bar the girls expect service! They don't go for just half a time at night (as you told us to deliver :) ) followed by a major disappointment in the morning :D ..., no, they need action all the night long, continuing before AND after breakfast .

Did you ever think about dating the Auntie :) ? Emmy might also be an option ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]As for you, handsome or not, after "The Rabbit KTV" spoiled the bar the girls expect service! They don't go for just half a time at night (as you told us to deliver :) ) followed by a major disappointment in the morning :D ..., no, they need action all the night long, continuing before AND after breakfast .[/quote]

Yes, I believe that. I look like a newbie with my 3 shots a night and single shot in the morning :(

The Rabbit KTV certainly set a standard. and that Bestard told the girls I was "Same Same" like him. Now they will all expect me to perform in a way that I can not deliver. I mean, I need my beauty sleep and I couldn't get it up after the third shot anyway. :(

[quote]Did you ever think about dating the Auntie :) ? Emmy might also be an option ...[/QUOTE]

Ha! the Auntie is a nono and in all fairness, I don't even know who Emmy is (I suck at names).

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]She is might be barfinable for a handsome direct man like you! ;)[/QUOTE]

Please don't get my hopes up... I'd BF her in a heartbeat... ;)

[QUOTE=Stiffoak 571]Already excited about the moment on Saturday when I wander into the bar - do I wait for company or get Mamasan bring someone over?

Last year it was pre-ordained in that I'd read about her in a previous report (evil penival think it was ) so asked "who is Tack?" and she was brought before me for approval! Want to work harder this time.[/QUOTE]
Stiffy,

You might be overwhelmed. There are about 4 new girls and 3 are very pretty to my taste, plus a previous girl returned who has got a lot prettier (that usually means thinner in my taste). So plenty of breaking in duties are on offer for these shy little beauties.

Was bad luck I already had a booking for last night, as I really would have liked to see ALL of one Miss Mercedes.
Another chance will come soon.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You know, I think the Energizer Bunny has Nothing on you! damn you might even be more efficient than a dildo.
I am sure the Dildo's batteried would run out before you can get exhausted.[/QUOTE]

I dunno mate, I'm running on fumes right now. Had an interesting day. Since the new Mrs. had things to do in the day and I'm trying to be good boy... I had to limit my actions away from the lodge.

As I went to very famous massage place today, and saw a very well known lady, after a full go go go session with a lady who is well known to wear out guys... (one box of tissue, four condoms, three showers, a full tube of KY and half a bottle of baby oil) we got to talking about some co workers and associates that we share and she says "you're the guy who can fuck all night long staying at Livingstones" Of course there are two mates in house who have ties to this shop but still I was very surprised to hear that stories about me appearing in MP shops.

After this I went to meet up with my Beer Garden girl who still is not working folks, happy to say. She's a sweet lady and a real winner.

So I am sorry to report that I only had 4 at the MP and 3 with Beer Garden Girl. I feel like I am letting down the standard but you have to understand the new Mrs. takes a lot of me.

Now I just get back to the lodge and am settling in for the return of the new Mrs. for our last night together for a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Giotto]As for you, handsome or not, after "The Rabbit KTV" spoiled the bar the girls expect service! They don't go for just half a time at night (as you told us to deliver :) ) followed by a major disappointment in the morning :D ..., no, they need action all the night long, continuing before AND after breakfast .

Did you ever think about dating the Auntie ? Emmy might also be an option ...[/QUOTE]

Well let me start with the last part, you meant that for NicFrenchy right? I mean Auntie and him do shop for the same brand of clothes we had a long talk about if Nic might swing both ways or not. I'm still not sure especially after his plumbing was clogging up with a sweet little gik of his.. Maybe he needs a more manly type of session to get him going. :)

As for the first part... you've known me for how long? You just have always known me with a girl who was just as horny as me. And I got her from LL and now I think I have tried a few and found one I like. And the girls are very afraid of going Bar Fine with me, only the brave and strong need apply for that and you don't have many that fit the bill. But yes they do want to see my equipment :)

However, I am trying to get Beer Garden Girl to come to LL as I think she is a pleasant surprise and a real treat. Her only downfall is that she can only screw three times or so, she did have a few four shooters in there and she's got a talented tongue, one that almost rivals some girls from the flower shop. After that she can't but she's talented and real sweet heart as confirmed by Nic and others. So I'm doing my best to stock the staff with workers as well as taking them out of the bar. I swear she would be sponsored in a month if she came to LL full time but maybe she will only do special events.

So I will trade you Beer Garden Girl for the next Mrs. :) Deal?

Of course one phone call that I am coming back and you could lose both of them anyways...

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Please don't get my hopes up... I'd BF her in a heartbeat... ;)[/QUOTE]

You could and she is your type (two or three shots per day not per session), she's afraid to go with me plus a good friend of mine however she is powerful and could really rock your world.

I've barfined her many times, only to kiss her good night and send her home. Anyone harms the new Mamasan will have the rabbit after them to kick their arse. She's been a friend of mine for a long ass time.

She won't bull shit anyone and it would be nice if everyone buys her a drink as she directs you to the right girls and never pushes herself or such.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Please don't get my hopes up... I'd BF her in a heartbeat... ;)[/QUOTE]
Her massage skills are okay as well.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]. Where's that damn British doctor when you need him. Oh yeah right, he left.[/QUOTE]Hi Guys, back home and I miss BKK so much!

As promised I'll write some reports in the next few days but a few messages to some people:

KTV. I miss you dude! Hope your keeping the flag pole up for Queen and Country! She will be proud of ya Mr Energizer Bunny! I promise each time you recall 'bending down and white spots' you will smile, failing that GOOGLE me:.p

Gitto. I miss walking pass you on the way to the sports bar, deeply concentrating at your laptop and smoking away! Hope to see you again REAL soon. And no, despite popular belief, you not bold, short or fat. Miserable. Well nah not that either:.p

Ms. G. One word for you 'Bullshit'! I love ya so much, it was great fun! Hope to be back soon so keep those dice ready for me!

Nic. It was a pleasure meeting ya, next time I'm in town we WILL hit Cowboys unless you get engrossed in listening to Dancing Queen 'wink wink, secret is safe with KTV and I'. Can't believe you like that song!

Auntie Guido. *big hug* what more can I say. You were fantastic!

All Ladies at the Sports bar. I miss ya all. Especially Mamasaan and Ms. N *big kisses* to each of you. I hope C comes back from her town soon, she was cute and to die for. The 'shy one' that Nic mentioned, if she becomes a little less shy I could easily fall in love with her.

You guys rock!

Plasmids

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Well let me start with the last part, you meant that for NicFrenchy right? I mean Auntie and him do shop for the same brand of clothes we had a long talk about if Nic might swing both ways or not. I'm still not sure especially after his plumbing was clogging up with a sweet little gik of his.. Maybe he needs a more manly type of session to get him going. :)
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Rabbit,

That's interesting. I also heard some rumours about The Frog and The Auntie.

Do you know any details :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Rabbit,

That's interesting. I also heard some rumours about The Frog and The Auntie.

Do you know any details :) ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Sorry some of us just put the whirlpool in 211 to good use for 60 minutes of fun that turned athletic to say the least... (that damn timer, amazing how quick 60 minutes can go by). Thinking about Auntie and the Frog does not help my mission. ;)

Going in for round three tonight... still early but we are lasting longer then before and she is getting more physical. Damn I hope I survive till my plane leaves.

As the doctor would say... Plant the flag for the queen...

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Rabbit,

That's interesting. I also heard some rumours about The Frog and The Auntie.

Do you know any details?

Giotto[/QUOTE]All I know is Abbas' Dancing Queen excites Nic. Read into that as you wish, for me the signs are clear. He likes Abba. Others may take it to mean something else!

I think I'll stay out of this conversation.

All I have to say is: fuck the lot of you

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I think I'll stay out of this conversation.

All I have to say is: fuck the lot of you[/QUOTE]

;) Don't worry no matter what I still like you even if you are switching sides.

At the airport, the Rabbit is leaving Thailand, the girls are safe for a while but at the end the Rabbit got tamed... Shocking... But I'm not sure 211 will be the same and it really makes me wonder how well you clean the place as we were creative on our last night there.

We had to get creative, and I mean extremely creative, since some grumpy old man would not let us play pool, go to the room for sex, come back to play pool, go back for sex, come back for pool all night long. Bestards...

And 119 has a great balcony that I highly recommend late at night for a nice view.

OK sitting in Manila airport missing the place already. Getting on the plane I sat down and realized how much sex I had in about 10 days as my body ached from head to toe. But I was still ready for another round. It will take a while to settle back into the work mode.

LL girls... over my years I've had some good experiences, some bad ones, some horrible ones, and some wonderful ones. Some times the girls were more wild and more like Isan Monkeys, some times they were acting too high class etc...

Right now, and having tried more then a few of them but talking with all of them, there is a nice collection of girls there. I miss some of the girls that were there before but there are some young, some older more experienced, some tiny ones, some fuller figured girls, etc... Even if some are afraid of me and run to the change room when I start talking about bar fining...

Out of all that I tasted, I can't really complain about any one of them. I'm not saying that everyone was the best lay I ever had but it was a definite improvement over the past. There is still I want to try but I'm afraid I'll break her in half as she is so small.

The best one obviously broke me down pretty good, but they had nicer girls then what I found at Cowboy and NEP. I did NOT enjoy the ones I was talking with at The Office or other bars on 33 this trip, but I did not stop in Powleys and I usually had good luck there. The Office seemed down to me this past trip.

Beer Garden was a fluke, but I found the one winner and she was great fun. Sop will return to New Wave and Beer Garden on my next visit just to sort out and look for the diamond in the rough. But of course I have kept contact numbers for all the girls. I just don't think I'll warn Giotto when I am coming back I'll just show up ring the bell and watch the girls run to hide...

hey G, just wondering if you plan offering these goodies the MG is offering. sounds great. :D
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=862008&postcount=941[/url]

[QUOTE=1Ball]hey G, just wondering if you plan offering these goodies the MG is offering. sounds great. :D
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=862008&postcount=941[/url][/QUOTE]
Well half of that is already imcluded in the rates, isn't it? Free WiFi, 2 bottles of water, breakfast...

But what about a 50% discount on those pretentious Soi 33 barfines, say from 2 to 5 pm? That would be my normal flowa-houa ;)

Centaurus, I like the happy hour, with drinks and munchies. A full bar could be set up at that big table where the Burgmeister sits, with various bottles of booze, and assorted canapes. Would be nice also to have a floating table, so as we lounge in the pool, a few plates of BBQ pork would float by, ripe for the pickings. Of course, a floating lounger, with built in beverage cups is a must.

[QUOTE=1Ball]hey G, just wondering if you plan offering these goodies the MG is offering. sounds great. :D
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=862008&postcount=941[/url][/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Somebody please explain to me the meaning of "Discount" and "SPECIAL ADDITIONAL PRIVILEGES". I have no idea what that means :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV];)

And 119 has a great balcony that I highly recommend late at night for a nice view.[/QUOTE]

It also is just above the bar, so you get some of the vibrations from the booming music below.

And thank god you weren't in 115 - that mattress already needs to be changed!

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]It also is just above the bar, so you get some of the vibrations from the booming music below.[/QUOTE]

G told me something about hearing balls bang in that room but we only felt our own vibrations that night and my own balls banging.

There was also some time were watching G and guests party late that night as you can see down into the bar if you bend someone over the balcony ;)

Now why would you bend someone over the balcony ?? Too bad they never looked up from behind the bar when they were changing music ;)

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

Somebody please explain to me the meaning of "Discount" and "SPECIAL ADDITIONAL PRIVILEGES". I have no idea what that means :) .
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Google translate ([url]http://translate.google.com/translate_t#[/url])
says "discount" is "discount" in German, so, G, it should be fairly easy to understand. "SPECIAL ADDITIONAL PRIVILEGES" translates as "BESONDERER ZUSATZZOLL VORRECHTE".

Did I mention these priviliges should be extended at first to board members only. as a test.

Hope my translation helps you understand a little bit better. Glad to help.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Google translate ([url]http://translate.google.com/translate_t#[/url])
says "discount" is "discount" in German, so, G, it should be fairly easy to understand. "SPECIAL ADDITIONAL PRIVILEGES" translates as "BESONDERER ZUSATZZOLL VORRECHTE".

Did I mention these priviliges should be extended at first to board members only. as a test.

Hope my translation helps you understand a little bit better. Glad to help.[/QUOTE]
Guys, can I impress upon you the importance of *not* relying on machine translation for important business communications? I wouldn't be surprised that upon seening the word "ZUSATZZOLL", Giotto's Germanic accountant mind sprang into action and is even now forcing him to rewrite all terms and conditions to include this word wherever possibile, and soon it will be making its appearances on invoices and bills as a "SPECIAL 25% ZUSATZZOLL (AS APPROVED BY THE BOARD)".

An aesthetically much more pleasing word would be [b]GROßZÜGIGE SONDERERMÄßIGUNG[/b], and I encourage you all to work this into conversations with Giotto wherever possible.

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Guys, can I impress upon you the importance of *not* relying on machine translation for important business communications? [/QUOTE]
Gaienmae08, this most certainly was not "important business communications".
It is a joke, as is most of the psychobabble we write here. ;)

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Guys, can I impress upon you the importance of *not* relying on machine translation for important business communications? I wouldn't be surprised that upon seening the word "ZUSATZZOLL", Giotto's Germanic accountant mind sprang into action and is even now forcing him to rewrite all terms and conditions to include this word wherever possibile, and soon it will be making its appearances on invoices and bills as a "SPECIAL 25% ZUSATZZOLL (AS APPROVED BY THE BOARD)".

An aesthetically much more pleasing word would be [b]GROßZÜGIGE SONDERERMÄßIGUNG[/b], and I encourage you all to work this into conversations with Giotto wherever possible.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Gaienmae08, if you read 1Ball's post carefully, he suggests that the "BESONDERER ZUSATZZOLL VORRECHTE" should be extended to board members, as a test. This, IMHO, implies that WE receive the proceeds of the Zusatzzoll, not HIM.

Now, what should be the base for these levies? My proposal:

While we hang around at that floating table and think about going down on those munchies that 1Ball mentions (munchies... isn't that a bannable word??), we could tax the barladies every time they come out and get a ladies drink at the bar. Payable in cash or in kind. And with progressive tax brackets.

PS: 1Ball: Gaienmae08's post was a joke, too ;).

[QUOTE=1Ball]Gaienmae08, this most certainly was not "important business communications".
It is a joke, as is most of the psychobabble we write here. ;)[/QUOTE]
Are you implying I can't tell the difference between "important business communications" and "psychobabble"?! Cough, splutter, incredulation. I strongly refute the insinuation that I have an MBA or work in marketing.

We meet, sir, at dawn, and watch the barladies of our respective choice do battle until my honor is restored.

;)

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Are you implying I can't tell the difference between "important business communications" and "psychobabble"?! Cough, splutter, incredulation. I strongly refute the insinuation that I have an MBA or work in marketing.

We meet, sir, at dawn, and watch the barladies of our respective choice do battle until my honor is restored.[/QUOTE]Agreed. The girls will do battle using their special skills on us, and whoever cums first loses.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Sop will return to New Wave and Beer Garden on my next visit just to sort out and look for the diamond in the rough. But of course I have kept contact numbers for all the girls. [/QUOTE]
Funny typo there Big Bunny, Thai word "Sop" means a corpse. I just came back from Krabi and Phi Phi, where had a great time, but not for you, mate. You wouldn't have time for any sight-seeing. You could screw the girl in the sea, but sunburn would be too debillitating.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Funny typo there Big Bunny, Thai word "Sop" means a corpse. I just came back from Krabi and Phi Phi, where had a great time, but not for you, mate. You wouldn't have time for any sight-seeing. You could screw the girl in the sea, but sunburn would be too debillitating.[/QUOTE]

ARGH... English is my second language.... You know what I meant...

Hey I take offense. I did a lot of sight seeing in BKK this past trip. I saw the rooms of many hotels (3 different hotels in 10 days or so) and beds (some private condo's and short time places) and I saw many beautiful views between the legs of a few ladies. ;) Now those were pictures I was happy to take.

Temples and elephants and mountains and stuff... been there done that. But I do want to go back to Phi Phi and Krabi as I enjoyed them before. But think I'll have to bring my own TG with me instead of picking up there. Wonder if I'll have any volunteers to go with me or not :(

Screwing on the sand, been there done that, not much fun. Screwing in the ocean, now that is more my style and more my home town type feeling. I knew being a Master Scuba Instructor would have good uses for me later in life. ;) But the best I could do was the whirlpool at LL this past trip as all the girls were afraid of doing it in the pool :(

I know Giotto is most afraid of waking up one night and seeing my fat arse naked in the pool. He better hope I find a TGF again soon or all hell could break loose.

Already booked my next trip since I did not get much work done last trip, those damn govt. officials never went to office, not my fault. ;) So have to come back quick. I can see Giotto increasing his insurance policy now and the girls running for vacation time... Too bad I'm not telling folks when I'm really going to show up, just giving rough dates to some of the girls.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...and I saw many beautiful views between the legs of a few ladies. ;) Now those were pictures I was happy to take.
[/QUOTE]
Being a connoisseur of beauty, I don't think we heard which ones had the most beautiful "hoi" (shellfish or pussy).

When the hoi is really pretty its hard to resist dining at the Y very often.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Being a connoisseur of beauty, I don't think we heard which ones had the most beautiful "hoi" (shellfish or pussy).

When the hoi is really pretty its hard to resist dining at the Y very often.[/QUOTE]

As you know me that is my favorite meal.

I found some excellent Diners and lost some good weight on this trip as I was dining at the Y too much and did not have enough time for sit down meals. Add too it the rabbit affect and I came home lighter then when I left (which is a good thing). Again, that breathing control learned from Scuba comes in very handy when dining at the Y ;)

Had the usual dinners, girls who were shaved, the girls that were way way too bushy, the ones that were shaved funny, the ones that were not shaved correctly with hair still sprouting in the wrong places etc... For the most part, the LL ladies I was with were more bushy where as the non P4P were shaved funny and the beer garden girl was shaved incorrectly. The MP girls of course were shaved the best of all.

Since I'm a nice guy and to help the next guy in line I spent some time providing instructions to some of these girls and wasting many of my razor blades all in the name of education. I also seem to have spent some baht on the right kind of panties for some of these girls.

There was one particularly wonderful dinner that I remember fondly. Not shaved but naturally very little hair and so soft and subtle... Ahhhhhhhhhh the memories...

Was going to post in the Restaurant Thread but remembered they were all not open to the general public. Some only took special reservation requests for dinning at the Y.

I have one complaint about the Lodge Restaurant.
The food servings are too large.
Thai girls are known to order too many different things. Then when the huge plates come, there is enough food for 4 instead of for two.
This causes overeating, and then we are too lazy for swimming and sex activities which get postponed till later.

Despite all this over-eating, I still managed to lose weight a little. Mostly eat only seafood and veg. :D
Dining at the Y and plenty of sexercise definitely helps.
If I lived in Thailand my belly would disappear due to daily sex workouts that get my breathing and heart rates up to the good weight loss zone.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]I have one complaint about the Lodge Restaurant.
The food servings are too large.
...
[/QUOTE]Soap Fan,

This complaint cannot be accepted :).

The facts:

- You eat too much.
- You are fat already.
- When you eat too much you don't have the power to sexercise any more.
- The girls are not satisfied then, and they suddenly get hungry.
- You go out with the girl to have a meal.

- You eat too much ...

My recommendation:

Do as as "The Rabbit KTV". He never eats, he never sleeps, all his girls are overly satisfied, all his girls ONLY WANT TO SLEEP, but not to go out for eating - he looses weight.

As for me - I am fat already :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Do as as "The Rabbit KTV". He never eats, he never sleeps, all his girls are overly satisfied, all his girls ONLY WANT TO SLEEP, but not to go out for eating - he looses weight.[/QUOTE]
Having seen the list of pills, potions and supplements Tansak throws down his neck, he doesn't need food for nutrition or to satisfy hunger!

[QUOTE=Giotto]Do as as "The Rabbit KTV". He never eats, [/QUOTE]

I do not understand what the fascination is about eating (except DATY). I can eat at home. So what, if you have the choice between DATY and a sit down meal, then it is simple decision.

[QUOTE=Giotto]he never sleeps, [/QUOTE]

Sleep... that is what the long plane ride is for. If I wanted to relax by the pool or sleep on the beach I can do that at home. I do not come to BKK or LOS to sleep. I used the time in the bar to recover from my latest encounter and prepare for my next encounter.

[QUOTE=Giotto]all his girls are overly satisfied[/QUOTE]

I would not know if this was true or not, how are my Tee Rak's (um I mean victims) doing? Missing me and awaiting my return? But unfortunately I think my butterfly days will be limited somewhat. How is the new Mrs. doing? I promise to put one new girl into the bar for taking this one out of the bar. I'm working on that young girl to go to work at LL with some of her friends. She has been properly trained and passed the Rabbit Test. In fact, even some of her friends have passed the Rabbit Test also.

[QUOTE=Giotto]all his girls ONLY WANT TO SLEEP, but not to go out for eating - he looses weight.[/QUOTE]

I would not know, for me Long time means Long Time and they can sleep during the day time when I was at the MP's or with other girls. But at the end I kind of stayed with one girl so had to make allowances for some rest for her. I'm just too damn nice ;)

OK I need to complain about bugs in the room during my stay at Livingstones.

I was given a free nights stay by a fellow ISG member (thank you very much you crazy Canuck). I think his real intention was only so that I could drive Giotto crazy by having me in house.

Anyways being the fine host Giotto is he puts me in room that was infested with a the largest bug I have ever seen. This bug would not let me sleep or eat or do anything. Just kept bothering me while I tried to rest. It was so bothersome I just had to take it's picture.

I would seriously avoid LL in the future unless Giotto can resolve these pest issues ;) I mean what would the Mrs. say if she walked in and saw this size bug in the room with me??

Gawd, that's one big fucking bug swatter to i'll need to bring along next trip :D Was that room 119 or another?

Getting back to my brother 1ball's report about discounts...

It is my understanding that not one but TWO girls that I took into visit the lodge will now start to work there. I spent valuable time training and educating these young ladies in the finner art of rabbitology :) I can personally vouch for the skills and abilities of these ladies after spending many hours of intensive hands on training with them.

Considering so many ISG members take girls out of the lodge, what is the promotion or discount members get when they add girls into the lodge who are properly trained in the finer skill sets?

Seriously, the one is an absolute friggin sweet heart who has definite abilities. You bestards will be lucky to enjoy time with her.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV].... the largest bug I have ever seen. This bug would not let me sleep or eat or do anything. Just kept bothering me while I tried to rest. ....[/QUOTE]

I think I have this sort of bug before. It was a "Crystal Ladybug" I think. They may go hiper when sprayed with alcohol I believe.

"Tried to rest" :confused: Is the big fluffy bunny now trying to shift the blame? ;)

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]I think I have this sort of bug before. It was a "Crystal Ladybug" I think. They may go hiper when sprayed with alcohol I believe.

"Tried to rest" :confused: Is the big fluffy bunny now trying to shift the blame? ;)[/QUOTE]

That is funny, I think this variety throws up in the toilet when sprayed with liberal amounts of alcohol.

Sift blame :confused:

I have no idea what you are talking about. I am and old man and happily involved with one current Mrs and am totally Honorable, it says so on my business cards so it must be true.

This thread has been very quiet as one trouble maker, Giotto, has been away. That leaves only one trouble maker, Auntie Guido. I have been very quiet staying out of trouble.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]This thread has been very quiet as one trouble maker, Giotto, has been away. That leaves only one trouble maker, Auntie Guido. I have been very quiet staying out of trouble.[/QUOTE]Soap Fan,

Did I mention that I am back from Shenzen? That does not necessarily mean that the trouble is back, too, but ... why not :) ?

I heard we will host a wedding at Livingstone's Lodge soon :D ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]I heard we will host a wedding at Livingstone's Lodge soon :D ?[/QUOTE]

As long as it does not involve Auntie G..... :D

[QUOTE=Giotto]Soap Fan,

Did I mention that I am back from Shenzen? That does not necessarily mean that the trouble is back, too, but ... why not :) ?

I heard we will host a wedding at Livingstone's Lodge soon :D ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Giotto,

A wedding....hmmm, Who is the lucky Gal? :D

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88]Giotto,

A wedding....hmmm, Who is the lucky Gal? :D[/QUOTE]


Actually, who is the silly sucker guy ;)

[QUOTE=Giotto]Soap Fan,

Did I mention that I am back from Shenzen? That does not necessarily mean that the trouble is back, too, but ... why not :) ?

I heard we will host a wedding at Livingstone's Lodge soon :D ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]

A wedding and I was not invited !! I'm so offended...

Actually I can think of a few getting married. Soap Fan is there something you want to share. Giotto, what about you...

:)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]A wedding and I was not invited !! I'm so offended...

Actually I can think of a few getting married. Soap Fan is there something you want to share. Giotto, what about you...

:)[/QUOTE]
I am wearing my "Game Over" T shirt today showing the happy couple but with husband's ankle attached to a ball and chain.

A mate of mine used to refer to his Mrs. as the "ball and chain". I am certainly in no hurry to marry anyone, and unlike Giotto and Tansak, I don't even want multiple "mia"s (wifes, or minor wives). Some good regular Giks is O.K. I guess.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]and unlike Giotto and Tansak, I don't even want multiple "mia"s (wifes, or minor wives).[/QUOTE]

Am confused.... You must mean Giotto... I only have one bunny no wives...

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]A wedding and I was not invited !! I'm so offended...

Actually I can think of a few getting married. Soap Fan is there something you want to share. Giotto, what about you...

:)[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

I was married once in my life - and THAT'S IT :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

I was married once in my life - and THAT'S IT :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Hum... are we speaking technically here? Maybe technically 1 time. So there will be new wedding when I come back? Can mrs. Kra Tay be bridesmaid and I be best man for you?

I've lined up a holiday trip after landing so you can come along and make that your honeymoon.

I understand there will be atleast two ISG members arriving same time so we can handle your bachelor party also.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Hum... are we speaking technically here? Maybe technically 1 time. So there will be new wedding when I come back? Can mrs. Kra Tay be bridesmaid and I be best man for you?

I've lined up a holiday trip after landing so you can come along and make that your honeymoon.

I understand there will be atleast two ISG members arriving same time so we can handle your bachelor party also.[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,

No, we are speaking "generally" here... no bridesmaid, best man or a bachelor party needed - at least not for me.

But somehow Mrs. Tansak is involved in huge preparations, what's going on, man :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Am confused.... You must mean Giotto... I only have one bunny no wives...[/QUOTE]
In Thailand the word "mia" (wife) is used very loosely for anyone that you are fucking regularly or living with.
And regularly takes on a new meaning with Krataai Bunnies.

Somehow last night (Wednesday) must have been designated the last Saturday of the month.

When I returned to LL at 10PM lots of playing going on in the pool. Some customers had decided they wanted a pool party and they got it.
I was told some girls were waiting for me to invite them into the pool too. So I had to do the gentlemanly thing and order them to get into bikini too.

Suddenly Mrs G and Mamasan jump fully clothed into the pool. Apparently this was bargain if customer would "ring the bell".

The customers were having a great time smooching and frolicking with several girls in the pool. Mrs G became worried that customers might try to go too far with naughty girls down the far end.

Miss Taiwan Sweety was just visiting with her BF who stole her from sports bar, but borrowed a swimsuit and was doing some dog paddle. BF was not in the pool. So there was great danger of her being molested by other guys in the pool. So she had to evade skillfully.

Mrs G changed to a swimsuit and was chased by guys in the pool too.

Miss Mild was visiting too. Must be missing LL greatly during her holiday from work. She also managed to borrow a swimsuit.

Didn't see Tansak's energiser bunny. Pity as she looks good in a swimsuit and was an attraction at last pool party.

A couple of the pretty ones were not in the pool for some reason like no swinsuit or can't swim, etc.

Only ML was well behaved in the pool. The rest were wild.
Most (not all) of the new sports bar girls are not that shy.
Some often give a subtle hint that I should have test driven them by now. But I am too bashful. It embarasses me to be in a bar with several girls that have all been screwed by me. So I am shy to add too many to the list. If I did, it would seem to indicate that the previous ones were not good enough to keep repeating. I have not been a helicopter on this trip (well not obviously anyway).
There are at least three girls that I keep wondering if I should...?

I went to bed early at midnight but some still in the pool.
I left wondering just how many girls those wild guys were going to BF.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]It embarasses me to be in a bar with several girls that have all been screwed by me. So I am shy to add too many to the list. It would seem to indicate that the previous ones were not good enough to keep repeating.[/QUOTE]

I share the same feelings and as a result, I have been absent from LL for ...well, too long. So MANY lovely women in the Sports Bar that I want to screw, so little time, and my limited daily capacity. Sigh! And the emails from the ladies, with both sweet and outrageous proposals.

And every time I think about the choices you frequent customers have, I really do dislike you.

Have fun. Keep the reports coming for those of us in exile.

~TTG

Livingstone Lodge, we booked and after reading reports on how nice and clean the lodge is. When we arrived we were not disappointed. The room is spotless and well serviced. The location is within walking distance to Soi Cowboy and the lodge is gf. as we discovered when we returned from soi cowboy with two girls from Suzi Wongs.
The first night we arrived here, even though we were very tired we went to the sports bar and found two attractive ladies to join us for drinks and dinner, played pool.

The food is excellent and the drinks where well priced.

We would encourage first time travelers to Bangkok to visit Livingstones!

[QUOTE=Giotto]Tansak KTV,

No, we are speaking "generally" here... no bridesmaid, best man or a bachelor party needed - at least not for me.

But somehow Mrs. Tansak is involved in huge preparations, what's going on, man :) ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Have no idea what you are talking about... She must be planning items for you, hear she's with Mrs. G a lot lately... This could be bad for me or you, not sure which one...

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Didn't see Tansak's enegeriser bunny. Pity as she looks good in a swimsuit and was an attraction at last pool party..[/QUOTE]

Wow... for some reason I don't feel bad that others don't or didn't get a look.... ;)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Wow... for some reason I don't feel bad that others don't or didn't get a look.... ;)[/QUOTE]

Are you trying to say you're happy she does not have sex? beware what you wish for... she'll be si hungry by the time you come back that she might eat that Carrot of yours :D

Met Mr Soap Fan yesterday at the Lodge and as usual, the bestard was in company of a beautiful lady.

This time, he was teaching her how to play pool !! now I find that to be a very bad thing.

The lady is known to many and I think has achieved Superstar status in her field, now the last thing she needs is to become a pool shark. She could grow to love "winning" money instead of "earning" it.

Now this lady even knew Mr Tansak "the Rabbit" KTV, hahaha looks like his reputation preceeds him. Soon enough, the whole Immigration Staff will issue a P4P memo everytime he books a flight so that most P4P girls can take a holiday or hide :D

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Are you trying to say you're happy she does not have sex? beware what you wish for... she'll be si hungry by the time you come back that she might eat that Carrot of yours :D[/QUOTE]

She can eat anything she wants of mine, but I'm not sorry she's taking a break for a while till I come back.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Now this lady even knew Mr Tansak "the Rabbit" KTV, hahaha looks like his reputation preceeds him. Soon enough, the whole Immigration Staff will issue a P4P memo everytime he books a flight so that most P4P girls can take a holiday or hide :D[/QUOTE]

Bestards, I get myself into enough trouble I don't need your help... The US Immigration already gives me a hard time I don't need Thai doing the same thing. And the P4P girls don't need to worry, there is currently just one Mrs. Kra Tay. We will be at G's wedding soon.

I know I can not go to a few MP's (and some well known ones that provide good services) and I know I can not go to a lot of bars (off of Soi 23, Soi 6, Soi 4, Soi 11, and Soi 22) and I'm sure I can't even show my face near Soi 33 without word spreading.

Such a sad report my next trip will be... Arrived BKK, Mrs. Kra Tay picked me up at airport, did work, Mrs. Kra Tay dropped me off at airport, and left....

For some reason I think a lot of girls are paying Mrs. Kra Tay to stay with me so they don't have to go with me anymore... ;( But she is a cute one so I'll keep her around for atleast one more trip. :D

[QUOTE=Fun Couple]Livingstone Lodge, we booked and after reading reports on how nice and clean the lodge is. When we arrived we were not disappointed. The room is spotless and well serviced. The location is within walking distance to Soi Cowboy and the lodge is gf. as we discovered when we returned from soi cowboy with two girls from Suzi Wongs.
The first night we arrived here, even though we were very tired we went to the sports bar and found two attractive ladies to join us for drinks and dinner, played pool.

The food is excellent and the drinks where well priced.

We would encourage first time travelers to Bangkok to visit Livingstones![/QUOTE]So it looks like you found what you were looking for... great! In the end, what were the bars you liked best for takeouts?

Hopefully you went for a suite in the lodge, the jakuzzis there should be large enough for solid foursome fun ;)

[quote=nicfrenchy]
this time, he was teaching her how to play pool !! now i find that to be a very bad thing.
[/quote]
she was a fast learner. it won't be long before she can kick my arse regularly.

meanwhile nic was teaching me how to play pool too.

nic wanted to know what i thought about a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] rumour, but i couldn't help much (as i don't like it there - preferring to be a more active participant with pretty girls), but i suggested someone to ring.
nic "always" believes rumours but i never believe them ;)
i should be called the skeptic. i assume all rumours are false to start with despite evidence (when its low quality evidence).

[QUOTE=Fun Couple]Livingstone Lodge, we booked and after reading reports on how nice and clean the lodge is. When we arrived we were not disappointed. The room is spotless and well serviced. The location is within walking distance to Soi Cowboy and the lodge is gf. as we discovered when we returned from soi cowboy with two girls from Suzi Wongs.
The first night we arrived here, even though we were very tired we went to the sports bar and found two attractive ladies to join us for drinks and dinner, played pool.

The food is excellent and the drinks where well priced.

We would encourage first time travelers to Bangkok to visit Livingstones![/QUOTE]Fun Couple,

Thanks for your report - good to read that you liked it here.

You guys really got me that departure morning. Bestards, you will not believe what happened:

I was sitting in front of my computer, writing a concept, deeply in thoughts - when suddenly our front desk staff came to me and told me that somebody wanted ISG discount before departure. I had not received any PM before - so nothing was arranged.

I went to the front desk - and first I saw a guy standing in the entrance, but close to him a woman (obviously his partner, wife) was sitting in the seat group there. I looked at both - and did not really know how to start talking about the ISG ... :) - what did you guys expect me to do, talking about the promotion rules in front of the partner/wife? -- And then the lady asked directly for the ISG discount :):):) ...

Bestards! Two of them! The first female Bestard!

I hope that both of you come back one day, that I can make this up. Some drinks on me!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Fun Couple,

Thanks for your report - good to read that you liked it here.

Giotto[/QUOTE]
I previously PMed Fun Couple but was completely unaware they were here. They must have been having to much fun to get time to post initially.

ML

For anyone wondering where I got to. Checked out early Thur morning. Have to visit the family for Easter.

Had a great stay and much longer than expected.

Not really a helicopter this time. Had to beat the Sports Bar girls off with a stick at times ;) Couldn't possibly try them all like a rabbit might do. But got to know them all a little except maybe the absolute newest ones. Quite confusing as several sparked some sexual urges, sometimes due to pretty or sexy face, sometimes due to big tits, and sometimes a cute arse.

Mamasan still tries to line me up with the one who least matches my spec. But no charity work in the bedroom.

Keep intending to try other BKK Hotels, but seem to rarely get round to it. Life's too comfortable at LL.

But must be the food was too good and too plentiful.

Got home to an ugly reading on the scales.

[QUOTE=Mp Lover] ;) Couldn't possibly try them all like a rabbit might do. But got to know them all a little except maybe the absolute newest ones. Quite confusing as several sparked some sexual urges, sometimes due to pretty or sexy face, sometimes due to big tits, and sometimes a cute arse.[/QUOTE]

What all could you be talking about? There is only one Mrs. Kra Tay...

But you are right, the current crop of girls was very good compared to the past. I think only two years ago did they have a better crop in the stable and I heard there were some out in the pasture who are now in the stable that are of good quality. There are some I'd like to think about taking for a spin but alas... do not want to feed the ducks right now.

See you in May? Hear there might be a wedding ;)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]

See you in May? Hear there might be a wedding ;)[/QUOTE]
Not sure when I'll be back.
Giotto and Auntie Guido would make a lovely couple. Auntie is getting the tooth diamond very soon.

Back with another terribly banal question: how big are the room safes at Chez Giotto? More precisely, will they accomodate a 13.3in laptop? (Also, could they withstand a direct hit from a tank shell or a burning bus?)

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Back with another terribly banal question: how big are the room safes at Chez Giotto? More precisely, will they accomodate a 13.3in laptop? (Also, could they withstand a direct hit from a tank shell or a burning bus?)[/QUOTE]
You questions are rather extreme and unrealistic.
I have always guarded my laptop carefully, keeping it with me rather than in boot of taxi, for fear of someone crashing into the back. But one day a work college slid a tray which knocked a coffee straight over ther top of the keyboard. These are realistic dangers.

At LL I do not bother to lock up the laptop. I trust the cleaning staff. In fact although room has a safe, I rarely use it, and nothing was ever stolen. I keep cash in my pocket.

O.K. be careful and always keep backup of vital data from laptop. But don't spend too much time being worried about stuff in your room.

Put stuff like passport, wallet, jewelry in the safe. But notebook will be O.K. IMHO.

I feel more comfortable with my laptop in a safe or locked in my hard-side suitcase if I'm bringing back a freelancer. That said, I once went out one evening and inadvertently left the room to my room in the Westin Sukh wide open with my laptop sitting on the desk, open for all to see. When coming back several hours later nothing was missing. I do prefer the rooms at the Westin which do have safes large enough for laptops.

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Back with another terribly banal question: how big are the room safes at Chez Giotto? More precisely, will they accomodate a 13.3in laptop? (Also, could they withstand a direct hit from a tank shell or a burning bus?)[/QUOTE]Gaienmae08,

We bought a set of new room safes last year - some bigger ones. My laptop fits in, but there are laptops sizes out there which for sure do not fit in.

In the worst case you still can deposit your laptop at the front desk.

As for the tanks - we usually have the tanks here only to protect "The Rabbit KTV" from attacks of his jealous and un-satisfied girl friends (once he spends the night with another one) ... so you don't really need to be worried about tank shells :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]You questions are rather extreme and unrealistic.
I have always guarded my laptop carefully, keeping it with me rather than in boot of taxi, for fear of someone crashing into the back. But one day a work college slid a tray which knocked a coffee straight over ther top of the keyboard. These are realistic dangers.

At LL I do not bother to lock up the laptop. I trust the cleaning staff. In fact although room has a safe, I rarely use it, and nothing was ever stolen. I keep cash in my pocket.

O.K. be careful and always keep backup of vital data from laptop. But don't spend too much time being worried about stuff in your room.

Put stuff like passport, wallet, jewelry in the safe. But notebook will be O.K. IMHO.[/QUOTE]
Why unrealistic? Though I have not yet been to LL I'd guess a laptop would be pretty safe there, but even then accidents (and possibly "accidents") happen. It's not so much the monetary value of the thing but the time and energy which would be involved in setting up a replacement. Peace of mind is what I'm after.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Gaienmae08,

We bought a set of new room safes last year - some bigger ones. My laptop fits in, but there are laptops sizes out there which for sure do not fit in.

In the worst case you still can deposit your laptop at the front desk.[/QUOTE]
Sounds good, it's not a very large laptop, but front desk would be fine too now you mention it.
[QUOTE=Giotto]
As for the tanks - we usually have the tanks here only to protect "The Rabbit KTV" from attacks of his jealous and un-satisfied girl friends (once he spends the night with another one) ... so you don't really need to be worried about tank shells :) !
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Now that is what I call customer service!

[QUOTE=Giotto]Gaienmae08,

We bought a set of new room safes last year - some bigger ones. My laptop fits in, but there are laptops sizes out there which for sure do not fit in.

In the worst case you still can deposit your laptop at the front desk.

As for the tanks - we usually have the tanks here only to protect "The Rabbit KTV" from attacks of his jealous and un-satisfied girl friends (once he spends the night with another one) ... so you don't really need to be worried about tank shells :) !

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Gee Thanks, are the girls still talking??? I thought once I settled down with one or two or three that things would go back to normal. But something is wrong with your protest, I don't come back for three weeks more so they are staging this too early. And yes I am coming protests or not, room 119 with the balcony better be ready for my late night excursions outside and watch the pool, you might find a naked fat Rabbit in the pool :)

In regards to safes and safety at the lodge... I've never had an issue at the Lodge or with any of the girls from the staff (at the hotel, at other hotels, or during travel in Thailand or out of Thailand). Granted bringing back a freelancer you want to lock thinks up but overall the lodge has always been perfectly secure, and when I do bring back a free lancer the staff usually keeps a very close watchful eye on things. I've often left boxes and bags and computers and high end camera equipment laying around the bar, restaurant, front desk etc... I'll often give my room key to girls or staff to go into the room to get things (girls I'm not with) and never have I lost items. It's one of the perks of staying there.

The staff has always been completely honest with me and my items.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]At LL I do not bother to lock up the laptop. I trust the cleaning staff. In fact although room has a safe, I rarely use it, and nothing was ever stolen. I keep cash in my pocket.

Put stuff like passport, wallet, jewelry in the safe. But notebook will be O.K. IMHO.[/QUOTE]

[b]Gaienmae08,[/b]

I can second Soap Fan's advice, I often leave both my laptop and my Ipod out charging in the open when I leave my room, and I never worried about things going missing. However if I am going to be out all day I try to put anything of any value to me in the room safe, but there really is no need to worry.

The digital safes at Livingstones are standard size and they accomodate my 10x7 inch notebook just fine, not sure if yours will fit. Bring Lube. lol ;)

Also the girls at the Sports Bar can be trusted IMHO, and would never take anything from your room, and many even ask permission before they take one of the free candies that Livingtones provides on the night table. If you bring in a girl from outside Livingstones you are on your own and I advise you to lock everything valuable in the safe and either lock your laptop in your suitcase, or somewhere out of sight just to be careful.

I usually stay with the same girl when I am at Livingstones and now the level of trust is pretty high between us and I have zero worries she would ever take anything from me. In fact several times she has reached into her bag and presented me with expensive gifts she had bought me weeks earlier, and the only time she ever touched my things was when she folded my clothes.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Gee Thanks, are the girls still talking??? I thought once I settled down with one or two or three that things would go back to normal. But something is wrong with your protest, I don't come back for three weeks more so they are staging this too early. And yes I am coming protests or not, room 119 with the balcony better be ready for my late night excursions outside and watch the pool, you might find a naked fat Rabbit in the pool :)
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[/QUOTE]The Rabbit KTV,

Now I understand why there is this line-up of girls in front of room no. 119 already now - but the room is empty at the moment. They know you will come back soon, and they try to secure a good position in the queue, right :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Peace of mind is what I'm after.[/QUOTE]

There are a lot of good hotels in BKK and very safe ones. If you want relaxing and peace of mind, then many of us like LL. I don't get a room there all the time due to work issues but it always has been a home away from home. When I do have a room elsewhere I still spend more time at the lodge then at the other hotels.

[QUOTE=Giotto]The Rabbit KTV,

Now I understand why there is this line-up of girls in front of room no. 119 already now - but the room is empty at the moment. They know you will come back soon, and they try to secure a good position in the queue, right :) ?

Giotto[/QUOTE]

You are funny... I only talk to five or six of the girls. It's not like I'm with the entire bar :) What do you think of me? A big Butterfly?

Keep the room empty and post a guard... People tell me that you hear pool balls banging when you stay in that room, unfortunately the reverse happens during my stay. The bar kept hearing Mrs. Rabbit and me Banging ;)

In fact that might be why your mate from Shanghai missed his flight. We were up on the balcony all night while you folks were in the bar. You were stroking balls on the table while I was stroking something else on the balcony.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You are funny... I only talk to five or six of the girls. It's not like I'm with the entire bar :) What do you think of me? A big Butterfly?
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[/QUOTE]The Rabbit KTV,

That's interesting - I think you have a certain reputation now which is spreading around, and all nymphomanic women of Bangkok and around are lining up here at the moment.

As for the butterfly, helicopter etc. , no, you are more or less the Space Shuttle :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]That's interesting - I think you have a certain reputation now which is spreading around, and all nymphomanic women of Bangkok and around are lining up here at the moment.[/QUOTE]

And how is any of that a bad thing????

Last Sunday afternoon I wrote 2 reports at the computer in Livingstones. In this corner it's very dark. While writing I heared the characteristic buzzing of mosquitos, but didn't pay attention of them. As I returned later to my room I noticed a lot of mosquito bites on my both arms. Later they became very big, because I am sensitive against mosquitos.

So I want ask Giotto, if it's possible to install an electric plug against mosquitos in this corner, or should I bring some with me, when I am coming again?

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Why unrealistic? [/QUOTE]
Safe that can withstand tank shells etc. I wasn't sure if you were joking.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88]
I usually stay with the same girl when I am at Livingstones and now the level of trust is pretty high between us and I have zero worries she would ever take anything from me. In fact several times she has reached into her bag and presented me with expensive gifts she had bought me weeks earlier, and the only time she ever touched my things was when she folded my clothes.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't recommend anyone going long time with a girl not trusted. ST is more than adequate for untrustworthy girls.

I may have been known to break this rule but I am a light sleeper and always wake up if the girl gets up for anything.
There is no way a free lancer could sneek off with laptop unless I was drugged.

Everyone needs peace of mind, and I always have peace of mind if I have chosen the right girl. If not the right girl, then kick her out is the best thing. Then your brain will calm down soon enough.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]I wouldn't recommend anyone going long time with a girl not trusted. ST is more than adequate for untrustworthy girls.

I may have been known to break this rule but I am a light sleeper and always wake up if the girl gets up for anything.

There is no way a free lancer could sneek off with laptop unless I was drugged.

Everyone needs peace of mind, and I always have peace of mind if I have chosen the right girl. If not the right girl, then kick her out is the best thing. Then your brain will calm down soon enough.[/QUOTE]Totally agree I always take extra precaution even when going ST with girls I have for the first time or even second time. Which rarely happens. Everything in the hotel safe incl. Laptop (have a small one) + watch + passport amd credit cards etc. Only keep out some cash (agreed amount plus a bit more in case of tip)+ 1credit card in case have to go somewhere.

Well in case of LT same. Same for me I only was trusting in once even going so far in once case depositing key at the concierge. But that worked out very well. Otherwise I am pretty mistrustful.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Safe that can withstand tank shells etc. I wasn't sure if you were joking.[/QUOTE]
Apologies, I was just having alchohol-induced visions of people in red shirts choosing my room, if I were to stay in one, which I very probably will, as a location worthy of occupation.

Just as long as Giotto's Panzer Korps is on duty at the gates I'm sure everything will be fine ;).

Seriously, people have been assuming I will be cancelling my trip, presumably on the basis of media reports giving the impression Bangkok is on the verge of civil war... (BTW no need to reassure me on that point, my last visit was just after the 2006 coup).

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Apologies, I was just having alchohol-induced visions of people in red shirts choosing my room, if I were to stay in one, which I very probably will, as a location worthy of occupation.

Just as long as Giotto's Panzer Korps is on duty at the gates I'm sure everything will be fine ;).

Seriously, people have been assuming I will be cancelling my trip, presumably on the basis of media reports giving the impression Bangkok is on the verge of civil war... (BTW no need to reassure me on that point, my last visit was just after the 2006 coup).[/QUOTE]

LL is the type of place that you don't see the guards at the gate but it's the type of place where if something happens people will know about it and things will be resolved.

I'm still coming problems or no problems. I'm just looking at back entrances into the country incase anyone is stupid enough to try to mess with the airport again. ;) I'm not worried about getting out of the country.

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08](BTW no need to reassure me on that point, my last visit was just after the 2006 coup).[/QUOTE]

The 2006 coup was a joke, it was bloodless. This time around it was a little more gruesome than that. DEspite the red shirts evacuating, they still swore revenge so we don't know what will come next

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I'm still coming problems or no problems. [/QUOTE]

Now that's the little KTV talking... be careful, wake up before your dick takes over completely :D

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Now that's the little KTV talking... be careful, wake up before your dick takes over completely :D[/QUOTE]

Nah, I'll just use my diplomatic passport so if I am shot my body will be flown home for free.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Nah, I'll just use my diplomatic passport so if I am shot my body will be flown home for free.[/QUOTE]
...... and would your country declare war on Thailand?

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]...... and would your country declare war on Thailand?[/QUOTE]

Nah, my President would probably send a commendation to the Kingdom for getting rid of me.

What should we do to beat stress?

Well that’s the question me and some pals asked ourselves when we caught up for a cpl of drinks a few weeks ago and the winning answer was ‘THAILAND’.

A cpl of weeks of planning and we were already on the flight to Bangkok. Our thai experience began the moment we boarded the thai airways flight, amazing service.

We landed at the Bangkok airport and took a cab to Livingstone’s Lodge Hotel, which cost us about 300 baths. On arriving at LL we realized that our check in time was 12 noon but the staff at LL was extremely cordial and checked us in 4 hours early for a very nominal cost. There was a very pleasant surprise that awaited us when we got to the rooms. Guess what? Free Upgrade to the Superior rooms with Jaccuzis, we couldn’t have asked for a better begining to our trip. LL was the best experience ever, amazing rooms, comfortable environment, yummy breakfast, lovely bar, sexy bar girls, extremely friendly staff and Giotto is the coolest guy I have come across. He is so well informed about everything, we had a few very good discussions and I believe I have learnt some from him.

I also found LL to be one of the safest hotels I have stayed in.

LL is gonna be my home away from home in Bangkok.

Look out for my report on the Bangkok forum.

Cheers!

VIK

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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You are funny... I only talk to five or six of the girls. It's not like I'm with the entire bar :) What do you think of me? A big Butterfly?[/quote]Butterfly?

Guess you mean Helikopter, actually a Chinook c would be more correct.

Your truely

Auntie

[QUOTE=Old German]...
So I want ask Giotto, if it's possible to install an electric plug against mosquitos in this corner, or should I bring some with me, when I am coming again?[/QUOTE]Old German,

Makes sense. We will do that.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Old German]As I returned later to my room I noticed a lot of mosquito bites on my both arms.[/QUOTE]
The mossies by the house PC are real bestards, real nasty bites (no pun intended). I had the same problem on my trip before last - and I did mention to Herr G at the time ......

I would suggest moving the plant if it is still beside the desk as well.

[QUOTE=Auntie Guido]Butterfly?

Guess you mean Helikopter, actually a Chinook c would be more correct.

Your truely

Auntie[/QUOTE]

Now now auntie... let's not get jealous just because I never bar fined you.

I know you belong to Plasmids...

Just in case anyone has some spare time between sessions to read :D

Sex and Crime in Bangkok's massage parlors and red light areas, by two authors:

John Burdett, the better writer of the two. The protagonist of his three BK-novels is a honest buddhist cop (mom an ex-prostitute who now runs a bar on Patpong, dad a GI). Start with the first (Bangkok 8). Hilarious, funny, and in parts quite recognizable hehe. The third (Bangkok Haunts) is a bit over the tops with an uber-hooker who continues to fuck everyone dry as a ghost. I found him in the Kinokuniya bookstore (Emporium).

The other one is Dean Barrett, who can be met in person sometimes in Mojos, where he leers after a particular cojote girl that looks a bit vampirish. I only read one of his novels which was about the murder of a soapie girl.

PS: Giotto, there is NO no need to start a thread on literature because of this post.

[QUOTE=Centaurus]Just in case anyone has some spare time between sessions to read :D

Sex and Crime in Bangkok's massage parlors and red light areas, by two authors:

John Burdett, the better writer of the two. The protagonist of his three BK-novels is a honest buddhist cop (mom an ex-prostitute who now runs a bar on Patpong, dad a GI). Start with the first (Bangkok 8). Hilarious, funny, and in parts quite recognizable hehe. The third (Bangkok Haunts) is a bit over the tops with an uber-hooker who continues to fuck everyone dry as a ghost. I found him in the Kinokuniya bookstore (Emporium).

The other one is Dean Barrett, who can be met in person sometimes in Mojos, where he leers after a particular cojote girl that looks a bit vampirish. I only read one of his novels which was about the murder of a soapie girl.

PS: Giotto, there is NO no need to start a thread on literature because of this post.[/QUOTE]

Already ready Burdett's first two books. I'm about halfway through Bangkok Haunts. I really enjoyed the first two. This one slightly less, but still reminds me of 'home'. It also made me start to look at places like Utopia and La Defense differently as I wonder what the interior structure is like and whether there are secret areas. FBI is staying at the SGS.

[QUOTE=Pita123]Already ready Burdett's first two books. I'm about halfway through Bangkok Haunts. I really enjoyed the first two. This one slightly less, but still reminds me of 'home'. It also made me start to look at places like Utopia and La Defense differently as I wonder what the interior structure is like and whether there are secret areas. FBI is staying at the SGS.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever posted about Utopia?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Now now auntie... let's not get jealous just because I never bar fined you.

I know you belong to Plasmids...[/QUOTE]Now now Tansak my friend, I would never dream of B/F Auntie G, we all know how NicFrency feels about Auntie. After all did you not notice the twinkle in both their eyes when Abba's 'Dancing Queen' played. Had we not been present I just know they would have been slow dancing to that.

[QUOTE=Auntie Guido]Butterfly?

Guess you mean Helikopter, actually a Chinook c would be more correct.

Your truely

Auntie[/QUOTE]Tansak,

Sorry but I have to agree with Auntie G on this, you are a Chinook in constant flight whose fuel never seems to run out! I think sweet ladies at LL will all take vacation the minute they see you walk through the big tusks!

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Back with another terribly banal question: how big are the room safes at Chez Giotto? More precisely, will they accomodate a 13. 3in laptop? (Also, could they withstand a direct hit from a tank shell or a burning bus? )[/QUOTE]Sorry to be a little late on this one, I was at LL last month, first trip there and I can confirm it is 100% safe. The staff and bar girls are 100% reliable and I too left laptop out as well as camera and even wallet on my desk in the room. Nothing ever went missing! I had a few of the bar girls up in my room during my stay. No trouble.

Now if you bring freelancers then no knowing what may happen!

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]And how is any of that a bad thing????[/QUOTE]Dude your nx trip may end up killing ya! just a word of caution from the 'doc'. Docs suggestion is to stick with the rabbit and not butterfly, rabbit will wear ya out any 'extra' activities may just tip you over the edge.

[QUOTE=Plasmids]I think sweet ladies at LL will all take vacation the minute they see you walk through the big tusks![/QUOTE]

Between NicFrenchy saying girls are praying I never barfine them and your comments, I think I am offended... :D Even if I am not British I do my duty for queen and country you know this. I'm still waiting for my knighthood.

However atleast you guys are confirming I'm with girls. ;) You two.. well I'm not so sure.

[QUOTE=Plasmids]Now now Tansak my friend, I would never dream of B/F Auntie G, we all know how NicFrency feels about Auntie. After all did you not notice the twinkle in both their eyes when Abba's 'Dancing Queen' played. Had we not been present I just know they would have been slow dancing to that.[/QUOTE]

Oh brother Plasmids of mine... I'm sorry but I gotta defend my mate Nic... Just because he and Auntie shop at the same stores for the same clothes does not mean anything. Nic is a young French guy, he does not know any better so do not fault him. He's not old and fat like we are, so hopefully soon he will grow out of it and start dressing like a man.

I seem to remember something about a "Doc" on his knees in the men's room in front of other guys talking about white spots.... I also remember a whole lot about google... Now who is dancing with who???

I keep asking you for a wing man in May but you only want to talk about sheep and pigs....

BTW... I just picked up a 50 pack of dice... all ready for our next encounter at the bars.

First some information. For those looking for traditional Thai massage between mongering, I would recommend PO massage on Soi 33 down rthe street from Livingstones. Been there 3 times and at 300bht for 2 hours, it is a bargain.

Second, this form thread is degenerating into unimformative claptrap. One would expect this from imbeciles like me, but to have the senior members engaging in this is beyond my comprehension. Where is the sense of community and common purpose. Namely to ***** from sunup to sundown to sunup? Where is that sense of mission to get the most bang for the buck? Where is the single minded pursuit to get the chapest fuck? It must be that all the members are getting gentler in their old age. My suggestion is that any member who cannot consistently live up to the standards of this vocation (hunting pussy without getting sidetracked) should be banned until they can prove otherwise.

Please excuse me for interupting your discussion for my report:

Last Saturday morning i arrived early to Bkk, was picked up by a friend at the airport and headed staight off to Livingstones Lodge. Could check in right away, though I was there already 8.00 am. Had some problem with the safe (guess if I'm technical..) Had a nap and then hit the streets.

Wanted a massage as quick as possible and went off to Love Teen Massage near LL. Had Dee, 19 yers old from Isaan (suprise..) Cutest face and nice and polite.. had been working there for 7 months. I dont think she likes her job to much.. it did't seem that way. I could hardly touch her, she didn't like clit massage but she gave me a cbj that was above average. Had only one pop and price was usual 1500.

Later first evening I went to party with my friend, had real good times and went to bed at 4.00 am.

Woke up 1.30 pm and thougt I had forgot to change time zone in my mobile. Ok, down and said I had overslept breakfastasked if they could make me some coffee and a sandwich.. I said I had overslept breakfast. No problems here.. they still served breakfast, though it was 2.00pm. Great place!!

Sunday and wanted some massage again, went to Angels and asked for Jeab. Unfortunately she was on vacation. Asked to see the lineup and choose a cute girl. When she introduced herself I knew who she was right away, Kitty whom I remembered from their website. Kitty said she is 25 years old and she is really cute. Experince was so so i think.

Later on Sunday i sent a sms to a girl I have met a couple of times at Darlings. She finished at Darlings early this year and is now freelancing.

She told me we could meet later same evening and so we did. Met at Foodland in Soi 5 and headed for Gullivers for dinner. After dinner off to LL and had a really good time. This is the best sex I have ever had, I thought so even the times we met at Darlings. Had sex 3 hours last night (plz forgive us dear neighbors, she is a sounder)

Wake up and had breakfast (a bit strange to have to pay for hers, I still have a double room...)

After breakfast we had another round and then she was going home at noon, I was to go to the dentist.

We are going to meet even tonight, just waiting a call from her.

When I was out i town today I had no urge for another massage.. I'm feeling totally drained at the moment.

At last, I have a question.. as a newbie. This girl from Darlings, she has a great personality and so on.. but what does she expect from me?? I didn't bring up the question of payment, and neither did she.

What do you others say? She told me market was pretty down at the moment and she didn't have too many customers. Shall I bring up the subject with her, or is she doing this for free? Of course I payed for her dinner last night, and what we bought at 7/11 before going to hotel.

Whats your opinion guys??

All in all, LL and Bkk is fantastic!! LL is a great place to stay at, but I dont think I will stay here in November when I return with my wife...

Wheter we pretent otherwise, these girls have to live and this is their way of earning a living. I'd go with the normal 3000 for long time -- my humble opinion.

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Please excuse me for interupting your discussion for my report:
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At last, I have a question.. as a newbie. This girl from Darlings, she has a great personality and so on.. but what does she expect from me?? I didn't bring up the question of payment, and neither did she.

What do you others say? She told me market was pretty down at the moment and she didn't have too many customers. Shall I bring up the subject with her, or is she doing this for free? Of course I payed for her dinner last night, and what we bought at 7/11 before going to hotel.

Whats your opinion guys??

All in all, LL and Bkk is fantastic!! LL is a great place to stay at, but I dont think I will stay here in November when I return with my wife...[/QUOTE]
Don't be a cheap charlie. Just pay her the going rate or you could be falling in a trap. Read Thai Women - Opinions & Advice thread for similar stories. There are no such things as free fuck. After all, they are working for a living.

Dextro, it appears you made arrangements to meet again, prior to her leaving ,so it is quite possible she is keeping tabs on how much you owe her. If she had left in the morning, and you had subsequently made plans to meet, she would have expected payment prior to leaving. I always found, if having the same girl with me for multiple days, it was better to settle up every day, however, YMMV.

But make no mistake, she is not fucking you for free, regardless of what you bought at 7 / 11.

Pay the bill, it will be cheaper in the long run.

[QUOTE=Second Coming]First some information. For those looking for traditional Thai massage between mongering, I would recommend PO massage on Soi 33 down rthe street from Livingstones. Been there 3 times and at 300bht for 2 hours, it is a bargain.

Second, this forum thread is degenerating into unimformative claptrap. One would expect this from imbeciles like me, but to have the senior members engaging in this is beyond my comprehension. Where is the sense of community and common purpose. Namely to ***** from sunup to sundown to sunup? Where is that sense of mission to get the most bang for the buck? Where is the single minded pursuit to get the chapest fuck? It must be that all the members are getting gentler in their old age. My suggestion is that any member who cannot consistently live up to the standards of this vocation (hunting pussy without getting sidetracked) should be banned until they can prove otherwise.[/QUOTE]
This thread has some serious reports and a lot of banter (joking around). If you want serious stuff only, you might be in the wrong thread ;)

But you are lucky to be in the ISG. Other forums (which I won't name) have hardly any serious field reports, and are just full of dumb-arsed comments. All wank and no substance.

But this thread is definitely a fun thread and not to be taken too seriously. Its not even always sex related, like how you posted on straight massages.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Have you ever posted about Utopia?[/QUOTE]

I've never been in these places, just made me wonder about them as I passed them last week. Maybe I should try one of them out this Saturday?

[QUOTE=Pita123]I've never been in these places, just made me wonder about them as I passed them last week. Maybe I should try one of them out this Saturday?[/QUOTE]
Well can have a look but actually a very small number of girls at Utopia are to my taste. La Belle might be worth a look.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Well can have a look but actually a very small number of girls at Utopia are to my taste. La Belle might be worth a look.[/QUOTE]

You may have a good idea about my taste and I imagine can therefore advise me as to whether you think I'll find girls there to my taste.

[QUOTE=Second Coming]Second, this form thread is degenerating into unimformative claptrap. One would expect this from imbeciles like me, but to have the senior members engaging in this is beyond my comprehension. Where is the sense of community and common purpose. Namely to ***** from sunup to sundown to sunup? Where is that sense of mission to get the most bang for the buck? Where is the single minded pursuit to get the chapest fuck? It must be that all the members are getting gentler in their old age. My suggestion is that any member who cannot consistently live up to the standards of this vocation (hunting pussy without getting sidetracked) should be banned until they can prove otherwise.[/QUOTE]

You're funny.... Soi 33 is not the place to hunt for the cheapest pussy. Look at Pattaya thread for that one.

You want to screw from sunup to sundown, OK mate I'll take that challenge any day of the week. We both get a host of girls and rooms next to each other and see who's the winner. Or book rooms at Tulip or an MP and keep rotating the girls in and out as they get tired out. May 15 to May 26 I'll be in town, July, Sept, Nov, for sure. Let me know your schedule. NicFrenchy can referee.

For some of us it's not getting the most bang for the buck but having the most enjoyable time and for some that is not all about getting the lowest price.

LL is an oasis away from the normal crap we have to put up with in BKK. It's a place to get away from the pushiness and BS that goes on in other locations and many of the guys on this thread have mongered together for a long time.

You want to learn more, come join us for some of our stays, we're always open for new friends.

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]What do you others say? She told me market was pretty down at the moment and she didn't have too many customers. Shall I bring up the subject with her, or is she doing this for free? Of course I payed for her dinner last night, and what we bought at 7/11 before going to hotel.

Whats your opinion guys??[/QUOTE]

What ever happened here? What did you end up doing? I missed a few days here.

FWI... When I take a girl multiple days or see her multiple times and she knows I'm coming back they don't really ask for cash each visit, but at the end of the visit I take care of them. And what I enjoy about the girls I pick is they never count the money in front of me, question what I give them, and they always email / call / sms to me back. So I treat them nice and I know I'm not a cheap charlie.

For girls like this that you enjoy and visit think of it more as a gift to help her pay rent instead of paying for sex.

[QUOTE=Pita123]You may have a good idea about my taste and I imagine can therefore advise me as to whether you think I'll find girls there to my taste.[/QUOTE]

I don't think you'll like these places to tell you the truth. From what I know you and SF and me seem to like the same type of girl type, I just don't think you'll enjoy the soapie experiences.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You want to screw from sunup to sundown, OK mate I'll take that challenge any day of the week. We both get a host of girls and rooms next to each other and see who's the winner. Or book rooms at Tulip or an MP and keep rotating the girls in and out as they get tired out. May 15 to May 26 I'll be in town, July, Sept, Nov, for sure. Let me know your schedule. NicFrenchy can referee. [/quote]

Forget it mate, the bloke isn't worth my time. 20 posts and a big mouth because he posted 2 reports. hahahahaha.

[quote]For some of us it's not getting the most bang for the buck but having the most enjoyable time and for some that is not all about getting the lowest price.[/QUOTE]

But you forget to say that some of us actually have a job that pays a decent Salary

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Forget it mate, the bloke isn't worth my time. 20 posts and a big mouth because he posted 2 reports. hahahahaha.[/QUOTE]

You're such a hard ass :D I was hoping for a challenge.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You're such a hard ass :D I was hoping for a challenge.[/QUOTE]
You'd rather have Niic with a soft ass for a challenge?

[QUOTE=Centaurus]You'd rather have Niic with a soft ass for a challenge?[/QUOTE]

I'll leave that specific testing to Auntie.

[QUOTE=Second Coming]...
Second, this form thread is degenerating into unimformative claptrap. One would expect this from imbeciles like me, but to have the senior members engaging in this is beyond my comprehension. Where is the sense of community and common purpose. Namely to ***** from sunup to sundown to sunup? Where is that sense of mission to get the most bang for the buck? Where is the single minded pursuit to get the chapest fuck? It must be that all the members are getting gentler in their old age. My suggestion is that any member who cannot consistently live up to the standards of this vocation (hunting pussy without getting sidetracked) should be banned until they can prove otherwise.[/QUOTE]Second Coming,

Congratulations, you made it! I think not even the native English speaker understood the irony of your comment. You should have used a smiley :) !

Guys,

I am having breakfast with Second Coming every day since he stays here at the Lodge, and several longer discussions every day. One day he came up with the comment:

"Boring in your forum right now, let's mix the BESTARDS up a bit! Let's propose to ban them if they don't come up with good mongering stories!"

My answer was: "Go ahead :) !"

He is a real bestard, but on duty at the moment. The Lodge / esp. Sports Lounge has not many customers right now, so he is taking over the responsible job of taking care of the girls - every night! He is suffering a lot :D ...


Giotto

PS: I now expect you to write a detailed report about your mongering experiences, otherwise I have to consider to turn "The Rabbit KTV"s protection tank around to aim in the direction of your room !!!

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You're funny.... Soi 33 is not the place to hunt for the cheapest pussy. Look at Pattaya thread for that one.[/QUOTE]

Did I say "cheap pussy"? - all I said was "pursuit of pussy".

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]LL is an oasis away from the normal crap we have to put up with in BKK. It's a place to get away from the pushiness and BS that goes on in other locations and many of the guys on this thread have mongered together for a long time.[/QUOTE]

Mongered for a long time -- so that makes an expert? 25 one year experiences is not the same as one experience of 25 years.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You want to learn more, come join us for some of our stays, we're always open for new friends.[/QUOTE]Well I'm waiting here at LL. Since all of you have abandoned the young ladies(from my perspective), I have had to spend every night in the last week entertaining the ladies. Without my hard work and dedication, the ladies might just abandon the place and head for Renoir or god forbid Napolean.

I resent the fact that I have to keep the ladies in tip top condition just so that the loud mouth senior members can hop in and indulge in a feast. Do you really need me to keep them in shape all the way to the end of May?

[QUOTE=Centaurus]You'd rather have Niic with a soft ass for a challenge?[/QUOTE]

Right, now that is a very interesting comment LOL how would you know my ass is soft?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]But you forget to say that some of us actually have a job that pays a decent Salary[/QUOTE]That is almost like a bar girl saying she works in Soi 33 and not in Nana. OK - you make a decent salary and I don't -- so what's the point?

Come to think of it, there is not much difference between us and the BG. They sell time for money, we do too. They raise a clients self esteem, we do too . They dress for work, we do too. They have clients that stiff them, we do too.

[QUOTE=Giotto]I am having breakfast with Second Coming every day since he stays here at the Lodge, and several longer discussions every day. [/QUOTE]

Say no more. I knew somehow you had something to do with all this... :D

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Forget it mate, the bloke isn't worth my time. 20 posts and a big mouth because he posted 2 reports. hahahahaha.
[/QUOTE]
Newbies aren't allowed to complain about anything? That is a very discriminatory policy Nic. :(
If there are very few informative posts, even newbies have a right to complain as long as they post some informative posts themselves.
Newbies to the forum may not be inexperienced. We cannot blame newbies for only having just joined.
I had 13 years experience in visiting Thailand when I first joined the ISG. Simply because I had never heard of it.

We do want the ISG to remain far superior to the other forums, right? So we have to be able to cop some complaints and hopefully some slacker posters will shape up.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Newbies aren't allowed to complain about anything? That is a very discriminatory policy Nic. :(
...
[/QUOTE]Soap Fan,

Nope. We are the teacher, and they have to show respect :).

Second Coming,

Tomorrow you have your breakfast in respectful distance, please :D !


Giotto

PS: [OOOUUUCCCHHH!!!]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Say no more. I knew somehow you had something to do with all this... :D[/QUOTE]LOL!

You can have your breakfast here, too :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Newbies aren't allowed to complain about anything? That is a very discriminatory policy Nic. :( [/QUOTE]

Mick, that is not what I said, the lad specifically said that people who did not or do not contribute should be banned. Now there is criticism and constructive criticism.

Anyway, if you read Giotto's post I think it was pretty clear that the man was joking around (which was not obvious in his post btw) so there is no need for your post.

But thanks anyway. at least it increases your post count ;)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I'll leave that specific testing to Auntie.[/QUOTE]Hmmm,

What the hell is going on here ... Nic, can you please explain :) ???


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Nic, can you please explain :) ???[/QUOTE]

You want me to try and make sense of something coming out from the Brain of the Rabbit KTV? :D

Joking aside, I think the Rabbit is a little jealous ;) hahahahaha

[QUOTE=Giotto]LOL!

You can have your breakfast here, too :) ...


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Deal, I'll be there tomorrow, what time?
btw, I hope you're not the one cooking? :D

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You want me to try and make sense of something coming out from the Brain of the Rabbit KTV? :D

Joking aside, I think the Rabbit is a little jealous ;) hahahahaha[/QUOTE]Oh my god,

This Rabbit guy obviously chases every [fe]male that cannot hide fast enough ... I really did not know up to now that the Auntie is that attractive :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Joking aside, I think the Rabbit is a little jealous ;) hahahahaha[/QUOTE]

Jealous??? What the hell is there to be jealous about. I'm stuck in the islands with politicians around me all day long and you are stuck in BKK surrounded by girls all day long. You are young and fit and I am old and fat.

Very confused :D

Oh you are a Bastard by the way...

[QUOTE=Giotto]This Rabbit guy obviously chases every [fe]male that cannot hide fast enough[/QUOTE]

LOL... Only FEMALES thank you and yes if they did not run fast enough to the change room they were Bar Fined and stuck with me... But that was before, now the girls are safe, I have a Mrs. Rabbit that can match me stride for stride (now that's pretty damn scary).

We will see if she can hold up for two weeks straight pretty soon...

[QUOTE=Second Coming]Without my hard work and dedication, the ladies might just abandon the place and head for Renoir or god forbid Napolean. [/QUOTE]

Ko Hok... the girls are not that stupid ;)

[QUOTE=Second Coming]I resent the fact that I have to keep the ladies in tip top condition just so that the loud mouth senior members can hop in and indulge in a feast. Do you really need me to keep them in shape all the way to the end of May?[/QUOTE]

Yes it is a dirty job but we must all take our turn for the sake of the ladies. I handled Jan and March Duties.

[QUOTE=Giotto]This Rabbit guy [/QUOTE]

And hey... how the hell did I end up being called the Rabbit and who decides these things????

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]And hey... how the hell did I end up being called the Rabbit and who decides these things????[/QUOTE]

Because your fav girl @ LL is Ms Rabbit, and as your wedding with her will be in May, well, it is appropriate that you become Mr Rabbitt :D

It is something to be proud of

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Because your fav girl @ LL is Ms Rabbit, and as your wedding with her will be in May, well, it is appropriate that you become Mr Rabbitt :D

It is something to be proud of[/QUOTE]

Well hell... who's throwing my Bachelor Party???

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Jealous??? What the hell is there to be jealous about. I'm stuck in the islands with politicians around me all day long and you are stuck in BKK surrounded by girls all day long. You are young and fit and I am old and fat.

Very confused :D [/QUOTE]

You are old and Fat? damn, if you call yourself that then I wonder what we should call some of the Other Farangs in LOS.

Young and Fit? me? you must have me confused with Giotto ;)

[quote]Oh you are a Bastard by the way... [/QUOTE]

Now you are talking from your "angry place", I though you did not wish to reside there anymore? :D

You don't have to worry about anything, I doubt there are any guys in LOS that can match your sex drive (14 times a day for 2 weeks straight... ), most of us would end up with serious injuries.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Yes it is a dirty job but we must all take our turn for the sake of the ladies. I handled Jan and March Duties.[/QUOTE]

From the sounds of it, your hard work in March should have taken care of things until well into June.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You are old and Fat? damn, if you call yourself that then I wonder what we should call some of the Other Farangs in LOS.[/QUOTE]

Hey! I [i]rep[/i]resent that statement! Well, at least I will in 18 hours when I return.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You don't have to worry about anything, I doubt there are any guys in LOS that can match your sex drive (14 times a day for 2 weeks straight... ), most of us would end up with serious injuries.[/QUOTE]

Didn't you see the jar at LL with all the satang in it and the label "Please Donate to the Rabbit Hip Replacement Fund"

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You don't have to worry about anything, I doubt there are any guys in LOS that can match your sex drive (14 times a day for 2 weeks straight... ), most of us would end up with serious injuries.[/QUOTE]

What is scary is that there is a girl who can match that.

What is worse is that she enjoys it.

And what will kill me is that she wants it more then 14 times a day :D

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...
And what will kill me is that she wants it more then 14 times a day :D[/QUOTE]The Rabbit KTV,

And you seriously ask me how you ended up with this name :) ???


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]The Rabbit KTV, And you seriously ask me how you ended up with this name :) ??? Giotto[/QUOTE]

You mean it's not normal? I don't come to BKK for the temples that's for damn sure...

[QUOTE=Pita123]Didn't you see the jar at LL with all the satang in it and the label "Please Donate to the Rabbit Hip Replacement Fund"[/QUOTE]

It ain't the hip I'm worried about

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You mean it's not normal? I don't come to BKK for the temples that's for damn sure...
[/QUOTE]The Rabbit KTV,

Next time you try 14 temples a day - what's about that :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]The Rabbit KTV,

Next time you try 14 temples a day - what's about that :) ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]

You are a trouble maker....

May 15 the Sports Bar will be staying open extra late folks.... come and join the fun if town.

I will apologize in advance if I leave the bar for a while and return about 5 or so times.... :D I understand there might be a rabbit in my room..

Yesss.... I (still) can!

:D

[QUOTE=Centaurus]Yesss.... I (still) can!

:D[/QUOTE]Centaurus,

Details, please :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Centaurus,

Details, please :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]I still can DIVE. It has been a long long time. Had forgotten how much of a high you can get from a great dive.

But I'm afraid to introduce still another irrelevant topic to this board. Although, actually, there's very nice muff-diving here too ;)

[QUOTE=Centaurus]
But I'm afraid to introduce still another irrelevant topic to this board. Although, actually, there's very nice muff-diving here too ;)[/QUOTE]

Is there really any other kind of diving to worry about when in LOS?

Sorry for this Newbie question.

Slylock


:) (thats for Nic so he knows I am joking around, for everyone else please treat the question as real and genuine.)

[QUOTE=Centaurus]I still can DIVE. It has been a long long time. Had forgotten how much of a high you can get from a great dive.
...
[/QUOTE]Centaurus,

Understand. Diving into the Y.

In your age - I understand that it surprises you :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Slylock]Is there really any other kind of diving to worry about when in LOS?[/QUOTE]I'm in the Philippines ;)

My track record with irrelant topics on this forum:

- food... resulted in a new subforum "restaurants",

- literature: 1 reply, by Pita123. Nobody else here seems to know what books are :D

- diving: would actually make a worthwhile topic. The combo here of sweet girls and multi-colored corals is hard to beat. In LOS, Phuket comes to mind. Philippines has Sabang, Davao... Bali, hmmm, The Rabbit (TM) and 1Ball could probably add some great info. Giotto might not like it, though, cause he can't offer much except his swimming pool...

[QUOTE=Giotto]Centaurus,

Understand. Diving into the Y.

In your age - I understand that it surprises you :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]Oh! You are feeling the toll of the 50s already, too?

[QUOTE=Centaurus]
My track record with irrelant topics on this forum:

- food... resulted in a new subforum "restaurants",

- literature: 1 reply, by Pita123. Nobody else here seems to know what books are :D

[/QUOTE]

Did you (conveniently) forget the "flower" topic? :D

[QUOTE=Centaurus] The Rabbit (TM) and 1Ball could probably add some great info. Giotto might not like it, though, cause he can't offer much except his swimming pool...[/QUOTE]

You know I'm a master instructor...

I've been diving on land and in the seas in the islands and SEA since I could walk.

MAY 15... who will be around ???

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You know I'm a master instructor...
[/QUOTE]Master instructor...

I think more a master rabbit.


Giotto

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Did you (conveniently) forget the "flower" topic? :D[/QUOTE]Yeah... bestard nearly banned me because of that one.

Btw, my yesternight's gal was up to the full flower standard. 154 cm of pure energy and mischief. She had been for a week with a divemaster of my hotel. So, for breakfast, she paraded past this guy in my t-shirt (which barely covered her ass), barefoot, and black net stockings!

Luckily I don't dive with the guy...

[QUOTE=Centaurus]...
Btw, my yesternight's gal was up to the full flower standard. 154 cm of pure energy and mischief.
...
[/QUOTE]Centaurus,

154 cm of pure energy - and you diving all day! How did that work out?

Do you develop to a kind if Centaurus Rabbit :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
May 15 the Sports Bar will be staying open extra late folks.... come and join the fun if town.

I will apologize in advance if I leave the bar for a while and return about 5 or so times.... :D I understand there might be a rabbit in my room..[/QUOTE]
Is this a special LL service? Like some hotels place a chocolate on your pillow, LL gives you a rabbit? Do you have to feed it yourself? Is there a choice for people who prefer e.g. guinea pigs?

(I understand these economically difficult times call for innovative marketing ideas, but surely creatures of a more feline nature would go down better?)

PS I might actually be able to make a booking soon, albeit not in time for the 15th, if no guinea pigs are available please reserve a chinchilla.

"Fu***ng" Rabbit I understand. but a guinea pig and a chinchilla? Dr. G, I thought the LL was gentleman's paradise, but this is turning into a zoo. :D

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Is this a special LL service? Like some hotels place a chocolate on your pillow, LL gives you a rabbit? Do you have to feed it yourself? Is there a choice for people who prefer e.g. guinea pigs?
...
[/QUOTE]Gaienmae08,

This is a special service only for you. Next time, when you stay here at the Lodge, you and Mr. Rabbit KTV will share one room, and you will enjoy his extraordinary performance :D !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Gaienmae08,

This is a special service only for you. Next time, when you stay here at the Lodge, you and Mr. Rabbit KTV will share one room, and you will enjoy his extraordinary performance :D !
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Aha, the renowned Mr. KTV and his famous rabbit juggling act? (Apologies, I have only skimmed the last few pages and might have got my wires crossed on this whole small domestic animal meme). Nevertheless I shall bring some carrots, and also a video camera for the Youtube feed.

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Nevertheless I shall bring some carrots, and also a video camera for the Youtube feed.[/QUOTE]
I am sure Rabbit KTV will enjoy the carrots. Make sure you post the link on Youtube.

Ouch ;)

[QUOTE=1Ball]I am sure Rabbit KTV will enjoy the carrots. Make sure you post the link on Youtube.

Ouch ;)[/QUOTE]

I think that Giotto better set up a pinhole camera in the Rabbit warren for the YouTube feed as I have a feeling that Gaienmae08 and his carrots will not last long once Rabbit KTV finds him in the warren.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]"Fu***ng" Rabbit I understand. but a guinea pig and a chinchilla? Dr. G, I thought the LL was gentleman's paradise, but this is turning into a zoo. :D[/QUOTE]
Gerbils? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0pNeDMowCY[/url]

[QUOTE=1Ball]I am sure Rabbit KTV will enjoy the carrots. Make sure you post the link on Youtube.

Ouch ;)[/QUOTE]

;) Who said I do not have video? :D

And besides my digital camcorders and DSLR's I just picked up the new(er) Olympus Stylus Tough-8000. A sweet little 12 mp underwater pocket camera that is actually top notch camera, I might leave my DSLR's behind and just use this one. Add this to my other U/W video and photo gear and I expect some increased shower / ocean / pool video to compliment my past visits.

But the carrots can stay with Guido.

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Is this a special LL service? Like some hotels place a chocolate on your pillow, LL gives you a rabbit? Do you have to feed it yourself? Is there a choice for people who prefer e.g. guinea pigs?[/QUOTE]

LL is happy to put a little animal on your bed every night and it has a good collection of talent, I would not call them rabbit quality yet. I remember one lady very fondly and how she sweetly asked after 5 times if it would be OK to rest a while and if I could go to a MP to give her a few hours of break.

The last rabbit at LL ran away and has not returned yet. But I am lucky enough that I can bring the rabbit back into LL when I come to town, but it is special skill for a girl to screw 14 times a day. I do and did my best to train and educate the other girls at LL but alas... I have to bring in outside assistance (to help educate the girls at LL only of course). It would be nice if the outside talent could learn to share better but she gets jealous easily.

I had a nasty cockroach in my room last time. It took me a long to get it out of my room and it kept creeping in somehow multiple times. So it is not just guinea pigs and rabbits in the lodge ((and gerbils (for Nic and Guido :D ) )).

[QUOTE=Duniawala]"Fu***ng" Rabbit I understand. but a guinea pig and a chinchilla? Dr. G, I thought the LL was gentleman's paradise, but this is turning into a zoo. :D[/QUOTE]

It is a zoo in the lodge now... it's now a gentleman's hunting paradise where you get to find out what type of animal you bagged for the night.

Giotto is taking this African Theme a little far by adding in big game safari into the bar... You did not know of the new Big Game Safari Night at LL??? Still have the Champagne and Pool nights and such but added this new one...

In case anybody get's roped into wingman duties........

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]

Gerbils? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0pNeDMowCY[/url]

[/QUOTE]

One of the funniest clips I ever did see. "Armageddon", will have to remember that as my safe word in the future.

Thanks,
Slim

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Gerbils? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0pNeDMowCY[/url][/QUOTE]
Sick puppies! :D

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV];) Who said I do not have video? :D

And besides my digital camcorders and DSLR's I just picked up the new(er) Olympus Stylus Tough-8000. A sweet little 12 mp underwater pocket camera that is actually top notch camera, I might leave my DSLR's behind and just use this one. Add this to my other U/W video and photo gear and I expect some increased shower / ocean / pool video to compliment my past visits.................[/QUOTE]
I left my previous U/W Olympus (SW 1030) on a table in cafe in MBK a couple weeks ago. As I hadnt downloaded and cleared the card for a few days, somebody inherited some very interesting pics and videos. A lot of them were U/W and beach stuff too, as I always made good use of the camera's full potential.
Same day I picked up a new 8000 Tough and can say it is every bit as good as the previous model, and then some !! Totally recommended, especially for hotel pool fun as you describe.

Cheers, FF

[QUOTE=Shorty1]And I am in Bangkok at LL.

Damned hot here.

And Som is out of control.[/QUOTE]Shorty1,

Hmmm...why am I not surprised :) ???


Giotto

[size=+8][color=green][b]WERDER![/b][/color][/size]


Giotto (Bremen)

[QUOTE=Giotto][color=green][b]WERDER![/b][/color]

Giotto (Bremen)[/QUOTE]


[size=+8][color=green][b] Fischköppe !! [/b][/color][/size]

[QUOTE=Giotto][size=+8][color=green][b]WERDER![/b][/color][/size]

Giotto (Bremen)[/QUOTE]Congrats. Great match yesterday. Had to get up in the middle of the night. To watch the match.

Giotto: Du bist ja von Bremen, wenn ich mich richtig erinnere.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV] ... I just picked up the new(er) Olympus Stylus Tough-8000. A sweet little 12 mp underwater pocket camera that is actually top notch camera...[/QUOTE]Sounds good - approximately how much in US$?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV][size=+8][color=green][b] Fischköppe !! [/b][/color][/size][/QUOTE]BASTARD!

Where did you get this from? You don't even have the "ö" on your keyboard ...

Btw., we don't take this too serious, that's how the [B][size=+2]MOUNTAIN TRIBES[/B][/size] from the South ( = The Bavarians ) call us, and that basically makes it a compliment :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Piper1]Sounds good - approximately how much in US$?[/QUOTE]

Under 400, think it was 350 or so but am not positive. I expensed it so was not too concerned with that aspect.

After many countries, a crap load of travel and lots of airports, beaches, oceans, pools, and showers... then add in some editing and then resizing... playing with some of the panorama / low light / night / etc... aspects of this camera I find myself leaving my Sony Alpha 700 and it's 7 lenses at home more and more.

The best aspect is throwing it around in carry on and bags and such and not worrying about it, the other aspect is keeping sand and dirt out of it. Coming from Oceania the salt spray, humidity, heat, dirt and grime kills most electronics but I don't have to worry about much with this camera.

[QUOTE=Giotto]BASTARD!

Where did you get this from? You don't even have the "ö" on your keyboard ...

Giotto[/QUOTE]

HAHAHAHA I'm a wealth of worthless information.... I never knew you were from the sea port, how many ship whistles sounded off, or do they still do that?

I'll stick to causing trouble in other places (like Manila and Isaan) for a while.

See you Friday I hope.

Hey can we pick up the NHL Hockey games at the lodge? I could care less but got a Canadian friend coming in same day as me.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...
I'll stick to causing trouble in other places (like Manila and Isaan) for a while.
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Rabbit KTV,

We are prepared for your arrival :) .

We have lots of new girls in the bar (honestly, another bar closed in Soi 33, and we took over some of the girls) ... and we are right now giving them a training how to deal with rabbits :) !

Let's wait and see.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Rabbit KTV,

We are prepared for your arrival :) .

We have lots of new girls in the bar (honestly, another bar closed in Soi 33, and we took over some of the girls) ... and we are right now giving them a training how to deal with rabbits :) !

Let's wait and see.

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Sorry there are some duties I must perform in Manila ;) BKK can not keep the Kra Tay all to themselves, I am on a UN mission one girl at a time. Think of it as a warm up before my arrival to get the batteries fully charged up. And I doubt the new girls will ever be fully prepared for the Kra Tay no matter what you tell them. But watch the news from the south... I know about Phi Phi but watch out for dead girls in the south far north of Phuket after my arrival in Thailand ;)

And honestly I know the remaining girls are very happy that Mr. Rabbit KTV has a Mrs. Rabbit... they don't need to run to the change room when it comes time to BarFine now... I'll never forget Ms. J very seriously telling me that she is afraid she might die if she goes with me. Ms P asking after the fifth time if she could go home. Ms. D telling me she never did more then 8 times before. Ms. T sending me off to Beer Garden Girl as she wanted a rest. And Ms. N telling me she can go with me if I take three other girls to help her. And poor Ms. M turning white with fear and running to the change room when she was called over just to talk to me. Just to name a few. They really know how to hurt a guys feeling...

But damn it there is one that did not get a ride with the fluffy bunny and she keeps emailing me and SMS me for a try, just one afternoon and she swears she won't tell the new Mrs but she doesn't believe the stories from the other girls and she wants to try. I guarantee you that would be an enjoyable afternoon but I also know I am risking a serious amputation at the hands of the Mrs. She's not known to be totally rational.

Let's not forget I got some Non P4P and even a pair of Identical Uni Twins waiting in the wings (one down but trying for the grand slam to get the pair together; however they have a cute older sister also ;) so it could get complicated). Even my 6 K baht for one full week Beer Garden girl is still calling to me and promising me things that even I can't imagine. I need to make some decisions... be good with the Mrs. or be a total bastard like last time.

Let's pull 1Ball and NicFrenchy and some others in for a drink in between sex sessions.

[QUOTE=Giotto]

We have lots of new girls in the bar (honestly, another bar closed in Soi 33, and we took over some of the girls) ... and we are right now giving them a training how to deal with rabbits :) !

Giotto

[/QUOTE]

How many guys did you put to the task? I figure it would take 3 normal guys working in rotation to match the Rabbit over a sustained period time. Says 5 new girls, it would take about 15 guys going 24/7.

Am I close?

Slim

[QUOTE=Giotto]We have lots of new girls in the bar (honestly, another bar closed in Soi 33, and we took over some of the girls)[/QUOTE]Did you take over that mamasan?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]And honestly I know the remaining girls are very happy that Mr. Rabbit KTV has a Mrs. Rabbit... ...... a serious amputation at the hands of the Mrs. ... be good with the Mrs. or be a total bastard like last time.[/QUOTE]
Three times you refer to her as "Mrs.".

Freudian slip, Mr Rabbit? Have you a date booked at the temple?

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Three times you refer to her as "Mrs.".

Freudian slip, Mr Rabbit? Have you a date booked at the temple?[/QUOTE]

Sonic you met her so what do you think?

Yes I do understand there is a date at the temple. But for Giotto not me. I'm on the two year plan.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Three times you refer to her as "Mrs.".

Freudian slip, Mr Rabbit? Have you a date booked at the temple?[/QUOTE]Sonic Bam,

It's still a secret ... :) (the relatives of Ms. Rabbit have booked all the hotel for Mr. Rabbits arrival next week). Still don't know in which temple the ceremony takes place ...

Giotto

[QUOTE=Centaurus]Did you take over that mamasan?[/QUOTE]Centaurus,

LOL.

Yes :D ! She waits for you!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Sonic you met her so what do you think?[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't blame you one bit, my friend.

I am back in Bangkok ... it is warm here. Not bad :) !

And the news are overwhelming - the coming days will be horror pure. [b]THE SUPERSTARS[/b] are returning to the Lodge, that combination of people arriving soon will cause a hell a lot of trouble, for sure. Bestards, all of them!!!

Now everybody wants to know who ... aeehhhh, yyessssss!

[b]Yok[/b] - not (damned, that was another kind of Superstar).

[b]Jackson[/b] - not (he is busy cleaning up the Massage Parlour Thread)

[b]UrbanWildLife[/b] and [b]Jack/Don Sheet[/b] - possible! Not sure. May be not. (HELP!!! I need some more tanks in front of Livignstone's!)

Hmmm...who the hell was it :D ?


Giotto

PS: I forgot, must be Alzheimer.

[QUOTE=Giotto] And the news are overwhelming - the coming days will be horror pure. [b]THE SUPERFUCKERS[/b] are returning to the Lodge, that combination of people arriving soon will cause a hell a lot of trouble, for sure. Bestards, all of them!!![/QUOTE]Well whoever they are, I understand some will be arriving in the wee hours after a long sleepless flight. I hope they are greeted by hot babes with cold towels and icy double-Jack Daniels and ginger-ale (and not your ugly face. That would just be cruel that time of the morning). ;)

[QUOTE=Piper1]Well whoever they are, I understand some will be arriving in the wee hours after a long sleepless flight. I hope they are greeted by hot babes with cold towels and icy double-Jack Daniels and ginger-ale (and not your ugly face. That would just be cruel that time of the morning). ;)[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

Don't worry, everyhing is arranged.

We will close the bar early and send all girls home. Guido and Emmy will wait for our guests and serve the cold towels and icy double milk shakes - should be relaxing after the long flight.

My ugly face will not be seen anywhere - I will be out, hunting at the late night spots, the places our guests want to go later. And when they then arrive the best providers will be bar-fined already :):):).

Horny as they are they will finally appreciate Emmy's services :D !


Giotto

PS: I still try to arrange that Jack/Don is waiting at the bar. Not sure yet!

I got into Bangkok yesterday and headed directly to LL. It's nice to be back. The place is a laid back and gracious as I remember, and this time, I was smart enough to get a room with a Jacuzzi, which I have just used this afternoon to my prolonged delight. It's amazing the things you can think up admist all that pulsating water and foam.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I got into Bangkok yesterday and headed directly to LL. It's nice to be back. The place is a laid back and gracious as I remember, and this time, I was smart enough to get a room with a Jacuzzi, which I have just used this afternoon to my prolonged delight. It's amazing the things you can think up admist all that pulsating water and foam.

GE[/QUOTE]Well you don't waste any time GoodEnough! My pal and I left you at the bar after lunch because we could see you were seriously on a mission - you were much more interested in the girls than the goulash. Obviously it was Mission Accomplished!

Good to meet you - let's get out on the town tonight and make trouble.

Arrived at the lodge after a tiresome journey via Singapore. On checkin the staff were great and the room (superior) was better than I expected and very clean. First impressions always matter and I have to say that they are great so far. I need to say that the wireless internet never reached as far as my room. So I had to go down to the pool area and do email etc while watching all of the cute little ladies working around me. Oh BUMMER. Or maybe the great Giotto understands a mans needs are not served by the internet alone?

BB

Back home in Dubai now. Good to catch up with Giotto and the gang. Had a great time - loved the new room and the jacuzzi (so did the girls). And thanks to Guido for arranging to have the seafood cooked Piper-style - delicious! See you again in a few months if not before.

(And Guido, don't even think about it!!)

PS Boater Boy - wireless in the new wing isn't always strong. Just ask reception for a cable, and you will have a strong fast connection.

Hey Giotto,

I stopped by to check out your Lodge last night, for the first time. I decided to stay and have some Thai food & drinks in the bar after having a nice session at Love Teen Massage. The food was good, although a little on the sweet side. Does you cook add more sugar to Thai food for westerners than he would for Thais? I've found this to be true in US Thai Food restaurants. Your staff was nice and not pushy with the lady drinks either.

Have you considered allowing requests regarding the music in the bar area?

The atmosphere of the pool area is very nice also. I didn't check out the rooms last night , but if they are as nice as others have indicated, I'll be staying at your lodge the next time I'm in BKK.

nocbj4me

[QUOTE=NoCBJ4Me]...
The food was good, although a little on the sweet side. Does you cook add more sugar to Thai food for westerners than he would for Thais?
...
Have you considered allowing requests regarding the music in the bar area?
...
[/QUOTE]NoCBJ4Me,

I was in last night - you must have passed me when you walked in, sitting close to the swimming pool with my notebook.

No special rules for the cooks to add sugar to the Thai food. But I will ask Guido to check that. Usually the feedback for our Thai food is quite positive.

Music requests - any time, but the problem will be to find somebody who can find the song on the music computer :) !

Hope to C U when you come here next time.


Giotto

Unfortunately won't be staying his time at the Lodge as I am on business...however the good news I will be calling into Livingstone's when I am back in BKK...hope to catch up with Giotto for a drink

Is Nui still the mamasan in the Sports Bar?

I see that Teens MP are close by and wonder if they the go for a good soapy? If so which one of the two is the best? Or is there a better option in BKK for a good soapy massage or ball massage?

Look forward to having a drink LL soon.

Cheers,

F....

[QUOTE=Fleetz]I see that Teens MP are close by Giotto's and wonder if they the go for a good soapy? If so which one of the two is the best? Or is there a better option in BKK for a good soapy massage or ball massage? [/QUOTE]I highly recommend Love Teen Massage (Soi 33, a few doors up from Giotto's/Livingstones Lodge). I checked Love Teen on their website, then asked Giotto about it, and he said many guys recommend it, so I went to Love Teen on my mission.

I had a great two-hour session with Nui from Love Teen back at Giotto's Lodge. Started with a thorough soap-up all over each other in the jacuzzi , followed by an excellent long slow erotic gel (aloe vera) full body massage in bed. Then a long teasing slippery ball/dick massage with Nui looking straight into my eyes with a naughty smile as I suffered. Then she oiled herself up and slid her body all over me for ages, before heading south with her mouth, blowing me long wet and slow (again looking up straight into my eyes to check my satisfaction levels while I moaned and groaned). After the long torture, we finally fucked in a few positions, and I was a very happy man.

I had to pack my luggage straight after this two hours of ecstacy and rush to the airport, but if I had my chance, I would have done it again the next day, and the next, and ...
______

(A few more photos in photo gallery)

[QUOTE=Piper1]I highly recommend Love Teen Massage (Soi 33, a few doors up from Giotto's/Livingstones Lodge). I had a good soap-up with Nui from Love teen, in the jacuzzi at Giotto's, followed by an excellent long slow erotic gel (aloe vera) full body massage, then a long teasing ball/dick massage with Nui looking straight into my eyes with a cheeky smile as I suffered. Then she oiled herself up and slid all her body all over me for ages, before heading south and blowing me long wet and slow (again while looking up straight into my eyes to check my satisfaction levels while I moaned and groaned), and finally we fucked in a few positions. I was a happy man.

I had to pack straight after this two hours of ecstacy and rush to the airport, but if I had my chance, I would have done it again the next day, and the next day, and ...
______

(A few more photos in photo gallery)[/QUOTE]

Hi Piper,

Thanks for that prompt reply. Love Teens it is then!

What the deal normally with the quoted prices is that it all "inclusive" or are there arrangements made with the girls in the room?? I would expect that you tip the girl if the service is very good....be good to know so I don't go and spoil the scene.

Thanks,

F

[QUOTE=Fleetz]Hi Piper,

Thanks for that prompt reply. Love Teens it is then!

What the deal normally with the quoted prices is that it all "inclusive" or are there arrangements made with the girls in the room?? I would expect that you tip the girl if the service is very good....be good to know so I don't go and spoil the scene.

Thanks,

F[/QUOTE] I spoiled the scene - 2,500BT non-negotiable for out-call (plus I paid a 500 tip for her excellent genuine fun service).

The cost for two hours all-inclusive if you use the rooms at Love Teen is only 1,500 (standard room) to 1,800BT (executive suite). I inspected the Executive Suite at Love Teen - very clean, well-decorated Roman-style, wall and ceiling mirrors, and large jacuzzi. I was tempted by the mirrors to do in-call, but in the end I took her to my suite at Giotto's - just so I could use the jacuzzi with jets and lights (which I had prepared a little earlier, filling it with hot water and herbal suds provided by Giotto's). Plus, I could enjoy a couple of my drinks and my music with her back in my suite. I also thought it might be more fun for her to get out of her usual workplace. Seemed to work. :)

Hello all wise ones, hehehe

I am moving up to Thailand next month and I want to bring my desktop pc with me from Malaysia.

Any experts on if the power supply will be compatible?

Slylock


EDIT : I think the solution has been given to me on another site. But you certainly can put your 2 cents in, it would be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Slylock]Hello all wise ones, hehehe

I am moving up to Thailand next month and I want to bring my desktop pc with me from Malaysia.

Any experts on if the power supply will be compatible?

Slylock


EDIT : I think the solution has been given to me on another site. But you certainly can put your 2 cents in, it would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Unless Malaysia has some weird system unique to itself, you should have no problem. If there is a voltage difference (110v vs. 240v) there should be a litle red switch on the PC's power supply to select the appropriate voltage.

Hi Giotto,

I have been reading up the forum and have found it very useful. I had a couple of queries regarding the LL Sports Bar hostesses.

I shall be in Bangkok in early September and would certainly explore the possibility of staying over at the LL. I have read about the Sports bar and its hostesses a lot on these pages. I just wondered:

1. are your hostesses articulate enough to act as my tour guides and show me around Bangkok during the day? English of course is a must.

2. is there any suggestion on the typical payments that a hostess would expect (apart from the bar fine, of course, for LL) for spending time with me?

I would appreciate comments from other people as well based upon their experiences. Suggestions for the hostesses who could be useful would be welcome.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Ghatotkach]1. are your hostesses articulate enough to act as my tour guides and show me around Bangkok during the day? English of course is a must.

2. is there any suggestion on the typical payments that a hostess would expect (apart from the bar fine, of course, for LL) for spending time with me?
[/QUOTE]

A lot of the ladies are excellent guides around town. I've set up a few friends with some of them and they have come back very happy (with the guide). I'm not sure what all you expect but they can do temples or other things, you just need to find the right one. The girls come and go and I do not know the new girls (the girls in the last two months).

But there are a lot of girls that have very good english skills and are good guides. PMT is always between you and the girl. You can email Giotto at the web site direct and ask direct questions to him, or get a senior membership and PM me and I'll give you some names, but it depends on if the girls are in town or not. Many of the girls are taken out for holidays in advance.

[QUOTE=Slylock]Hello all wise ones, hehehe

I am moving up to Thailand next month and I want to bring my desktop pc with me from Malaysia.

Any experts on if the power supply will be compatible?

Slylock


EDIT : I think the solution has been given to me on another site. But you certainly can put your 2 cents in, it would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

this is not the right forum for this subject, but unless there is a very dedicated need for your desktop, general globe practice (ok I don't want to start a debate, please don't) is nowadays to use the notebooks for such expat activities.
I even have 2 now: one used as desk top replacement (but still 2,3 kg) for daily work at home and also move around and recently I bought a Netbook as an add on light travel compagnion for monger trips etc.
It is configured that a potential loss wouldn't ruin me.
Also having offline storage space as option (upload critical pictures etc.) can be a good thing. Also for strict seperation of business and private activities on business trips, such a netbook compagnion is a good help.

just my 2 cc

regards

Brain666

I'm now winding up my week at LL, and as always, the experience has been terrific. Many thanks to Giotto, Khun S and the staff for the usual superb attentiveness, understanding and advice. Now that I know the rooms a bit better than I did on my first couple of visits, I'll know which ones to request next time, and I hope next time is not too far away.

Thanks again G, for a job well done.

GE

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]A lot of the ladies are excellent guides around town. I've set up a few friends with some of them and they have come back very happy (with the guide). I'm not sure what all you expect but they can do temples or other things, you just need to find the right one. The girls come and go and I do not know the new girls (the girls in the last two months).

But there are a lot of girls that have very good english skills and are good guides. PMT is always between you and the girl. You can email Giotto at the web site direct and ask direct questions to him, or get a senior membership and PM me and I'll give you some names, but it depends on if the girls are in town or not. Many of the girls are taken out for holidays in advance.[/QUOTE]You must choose the right girl. There are many Thai girls who scarely know anything about BKK at all, e.g. never been on underground MRT. I could be their guide around town.

But fortunately others know Bangkok moderately well.

At least she will know Big C, MBK (Mah Boon Khrong complex), The Mall, Carrefour or Tesco Lotus etc. for shopping :D

Perhaps the need is often just a language translator to be on hand. So choose a girl with good enough English to talk to you.

Finally I have some dates for my Bangkok trip sorted, and assuming all the rooms haven't already been booked by rabbit breeders, I will be seeing if the Lodge lives up to its reputation ;).

This will no doubt come over as a silly question, but are there places nearby where a single male can get a proper massage from skilled personnel *without* any "extras"?

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Finally I have some dates for my Bangkok trip sorted, and assuming all the rooms haven't already been booked by rabbit breeders, I will be seeing if the Lodge lives up to its reputation ;).

This will no doubt come over as a silly question, but are there places nearby where a single male can get a proper massage from skilled personnel *without* any "extras"?[/QUOTE]
Asian Herbal 2, Suk Soi 24. It's some 300 m in Soi 24 on the Emporium side. For Aromatherapy, you get a ridiculous sorta minislip ("underwear"), so worried are they about reputation. Just grin and refuse... still no special offered.

Solid solid Thai massah.

Really recommended.

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]This will no doubt come over as a silly question, but are there places nearby where a single male can get a proper massage from skilled personnel *without* any "extras"?[/QUOTE]

Right Across from the Lodge is Cefle, great massage, no extras ;)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Right Across from the Lodge is Cefle, great massage, no extras ;)[/QUOTE]I thought Giotto was thinking about doing massages at Livingstones?

[QUOTE=Mick Ireland 1]I thought Giotto was thinking about doing massages at Livingstones?[/QUOTE]

All those hours with the notebook has probably given him very nimble fingers, but I'll continue to take my massages from females thank you very much. ;)

[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Finally I have some dates for my Bangkok trip sorted, and assuming all the rooms haven't already been booked by rabbit breeders, I will be seeing if the Lodge lives up to its reputation ;).

This will no doubt come over as a silly question, but are there places nearby where a single male can get a proper massage from skilled personnel *without* any "extras"?[/QUOTE]
Cefle is a very good place. Good people and very clean. If you want a name you can PM me . I have been going there for 3 years

Many thanks for all your suggestions re "normal" massage

I finally have a flight booked and a reservation made and will be trying some out from the end of the week.

A guy was lying in bed with his latest conquest from Nana Parking Lot.

After having great sex in many and varied positions, she spent the next hour just rubbing his testicles -- something she loved to do and he enjoyed.

As he was enjoying it, he turned and asked her, "Why do you love doing that?"

Because, she replied, "I miss mine." ;-)

Slim

[QUOTE=Mackin]Cefle is a very good place. Good people and very clean. If you want a name you can PM me . I have been going there for 3 years[/QUOTE]

Right across the street from giotto's lodge - ask for the 90 or 120 minute massage - same price. [url]http://www.soidb.com/en/bangkok/relax/massage/cefle.html[/url]

I visit each time I'm in town for at least a couple of sessions - all legit!

[QUOTE=Ghatotkach]2. is there any suggestion on the typical payments that a hostess would expect (apart from the bar fine, of course, for LL) for spending time with me?[/QUOTE]I give this quote a little leverage because I want to know it as well.

Though I found at General Information thread that bf depends on time and hostess/receptionist, I couldn't find anything about what you usually (have to) give to the girls.

So feel free to help me/us

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Right across the street from giotto's lodge - ask for the 90 or 120 minute massage - same price. [url]http://www.soidb.com/en/bangkok/relax/massage/cefle.html[/url]

I visit each time I'm in town for at least a couple of sessions - all legit![/QUOTE]
Thanks to everyone who recommended this, exactly what I was looking for. Only slight problem was first time I went in they seemed to assume I knew what the setup was, which was slightly confusing after I was ushered in to the toilet facilities and thought maybe this was supposed to be a shower or something.

Well, it's been three days since I launched on my latest (and tragically only second) charity mission in support of the Financially Disadvantaged Daughters of Isaan and all I can say is - this has to be the best hotel I have ever experienced. (Note: I was planning to write this before making the acquaintance of the strange German guy who spends most of his time sitting by the pool playing with his PC). I have experienced hotels which are "nicer" in a "colour supplement featured boutique hotel designed by some relentlessly trendy Scandinavian" kind of way, or which are "classier" in a "our staff are trained to high levels of obsequious snootiness" kind of way, but when it comes down to it most hotels are basically a stack of soulless, air-conditioned boxes. Here, hah, while there is the odd rough edge and the staff seemed a little confused when I turned up for breakfast at the obscenely early hour of 8:30 on Saturday morning, it is the first time I have ever stayed in a hotel and not felt I was basically a walking, fee-paying item of inventory.

With that said, the presence of a facility harbouring large numbers of young (in a "not as old as myself" kind of way) ladies willing to play pool and / or suggestively rub their ample cleavage (I am currently resident in Japan, so my definition of "ample" may be different from yours) against me is an added bonus. I should also add that they are immaculately behaved and no trace of any "you buy me lady drink, now you fuck off" attitude.

The only actual complaint I would have is that the breakfast coffee is served with a sachet of white powder, not something which looks like it has been squeezed out of a cow at some point in the past few days, a sin against coffee which if instigated in Germany would probably cause rioting in the streets. However, the live morning pussy show around the pool more than makes up for this (short time affection negotiable in return for a piece of fish).

[QUOTE=Zauberfee]I give this quote a little leverage because I want to know it as well.

Though I found at General Information thread that bf depends on time and hostess/receptionist, I couldn't find anything about what you usually (have to) give to the girls.

So feel free to help me/us[/QUOTE]
Just talk to the girl before you barfine her and agree on the amount. They're pretty relaxed about the topic and it's an easy discussion to have.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Just talk to the girl before you barfine her and agree on the amount. They're pretty relaxed about the topic and it's an easy discussion to have.[/QUOTE]

Some will even pay you not to BF them :)

It was good to meet you recently, hope your trip home was full of adventure. Catch up with you in MNL some day and back in BKK. Next time I'll know to look for you at the lounge in MNL.

That's how I paid for my trip; having girls pay me not to barfine them. Now that you've let the secret out, everyone will try it!

It was good to meet you as well, and I'll look for you in Manila. Giotto has my contact information if you're ever here for more than a day or do and have the time to get together.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]That's how I paid for my trip; having girls pay me not to barfine them. Now that you've let the secret out, everyone will try it!

It was good to meet you as well, and I'll look for you in Manila. Giotto has my contact information if you're ever here for more than a day or do and have the time to get together.

GE[/QUOTE]

Well that is because you are a young stud and too big for them ;)

I'm in MNL often, many times for weeks on end. Let's hook up besides at the airport next time.

Just back form a few weeks in Thailand. Spent a lot of my time traveling this trip so not too many times at the lodge but on arrival went straight to room 119 and used the balcony to its fullest ;) The balcony is almost as good as the whirlpool is.

I can confirm that there are a LOT of new girls, just two months between trips and there are a LOT of girls. Fortunately for them I was with a lady so they did not have to suffer time with the rabbit. But I got word that there were three that wanted to take a ride on fat bunny, which did not sit will with the current GF.

And there were two from the past that seemed a little jealous that I brought in my own girl. That always does good for the ego ;) even if they love me for my baht-n-ality. Actually for the most part LL girls always seem to give me great GFE. Maybe I'm just lucky in who I pick but I have rarely been disappointed with what happens in the room. But they do know of me so they know what to expect if they go with me.

I'm more like inventory now I guess... Especially when they know what to serve me for food without asking and what to give me to drink...

I'll be in the LL from July 3 to the 9th, hope to have a beer with some of you there.

Anyone around this weekend?

[QUOTE=Pita123]Anyone around this weekend?[/QUOTE]Pita123,

Yep, I am here.

Some others, too :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Pita123,

Yep, I am here.

Some others, too :) .


Giotto[/QUOTE]

It was good to see you last night Giotto. I was surprised to find you showing off your skills at the pool table in the packed Sports Bar rather than tied to the laptop.

Sadly I think my quite poor skills at pool bored poor Belle so she passed me off to Aom. We did play a great couple of rounds of fooseball later on though.

[QUOTE=Pita123]It was good to see you last night Giotto. I was surprised to find you showing off your skills at the pool table in the packed Sports Bar rather than tied to the laptop.

Sadly I think my quite poor skills at pool bored poor Belle so she passed me off to Aom. We did play a great couple of rounds of fooseball later on though.[/QUOTE]Pita123,

Welcome back.

What skills? I lost 3 games that night ... disgusting performance :) ! I had better stayed with my laptop.

Surprisingly the Sports Lounge is doing well at the moment. We had weeks with nearly no customers, but it is different right now. Last night a party was ongoing until very late.

C U next week.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]disgusting performance :) ! I had better stayed with my laptop.[/QUOTE]

Are we talking about pool or something else??? :D

Anyone care to grab a bite at the lodge tonight 6/13 around 8 or tomorrow 6/14 around noon?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Are we talking about pool or something else??? :D[/QUOTE]
Laptop in the pool is dangerous!

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Are we talking about pool or something else??? :D[/QUOTE]Mr. Rabbit KTV,

We are talking about pool [8 ball].

On the other hand - compared to your 14 times a night activities ... I better do not comment on my performance :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Rabbit KTV,

We are talking about pool [8 ball].... I better do not comment on my performance :) !

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Just asking for clarification on that point.... :D

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Rabbit KTV,

We are talking about pool [8 ball].

On the other hand - compared to your 14 times a night activities ... I better do not comment on my performance :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]

I think the gent in the Sport Bar last night would say that your performance is not so bad. 5 up last I recall.

[QUOTE=Pita123]I think the gent in the Sport Bar last night would say that your performance is not so bad. 5 up last I recall.[/QUOTE]

Please don't tell me that it really is turning into a gay bar now....

Do I really need to spend every night there with the ladies to make sure that at least some guy plays with the girls?

Did the last person out remember to switch off the lights and lock the door?

Slim

Lights were on last night when I met G, Auntie G and one Balinese guy. Good food and great company. What more can one ask for in life?

[QUOTE=Pita123]Lights were on last night when I met G, Auntie G and one Balinese guy. Good food and great company. What more can one ask for in life?[/QUOTE]
Nice to meet you, PITA. Indeed good dinner, and great chatting with you. Pity we didn't have more time. Will be back in 3 weeks, probably with the GF in tow. Maybe we can all 4 go to dinner if you in town.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Nice to meet you, PITA. Indeed good dinner, and great chatting with you. Pity we didn't have more time. Will be back in 3 weeks, probably with the GF in tow. Maybe we can all 4 go to dinner if you in town.[/QUOTE]Pretty fair chance that I'll be in town if you are around on a weekend. Not sure if G will want to make it a foursome though.

After having been to all parts of the world I decided to try Bangkok this time. As I had some work in Bangkok, I decided to extend the trip by a few days to experience the pleasures of LOS. Did some reading on the forum and found that Livingstone Lodge will be the best place to stay.

I had read many reports about the positives and negatives of the various places, but wanted to experience and draw my own conclusions. After reading about the various options available, decided to try Eden, Cowboy bars, MP’s and Soi 33 bars.

About the Hotel: Livingstone was just as I had read about it. It is a nice quite place in the Soi33 with a great pool area. The rooms are good in size, very clean, quiet and provided with all the necessary furniture and facilities. The food is fantastic and service is just as good.

Day 1:

It had to be Eden and that was the first halt in the afternoon. The looks of the girls was not as bad as I had read somewhere. Anyways, chose a good looking tall one and she chose an average looking one. The next 90 minutes were one of the best experiences I have had for long. The girls were open to all options, BJ, CIM, lesbian, positions, combinations. I would say that this is a must for any person at least once. Overall cost I think was THB 4200 (3700 + 500tip.)

Took some rest due to the jet lag, and then decided to try Soi Cowboy. It was about 8.30 and most of the bars had only 4 or 5 girls dancing. Dollhouse was the only one with about 10+ girls. After sitting for some time, found a pretty young girl. Offered her a drink, thought that the chemistry is ok and bar-fined her. But eventually it did not turn out to be a good experience. The ‘doll’ refused to kiss, refused a BJ with or without condom, even refused to Jacuzzi / shower together and was in a complete hurry to wind up. In all, a pretty disappointing experience. Overall cost approx THB 2700 (600 bf + 2000ST + 100 taxi money.)

Day 2:

After a days work, I decided to try a nearby Massage Parlour. Teen Massage down the lane was recommended by some website. It is just down the Soi, a few minutes walk from LL. Chose a girl from six decent looking girls and was taken to a room upstairs. Overall, room could have been better, massage was good and the sex was good too. I would recommend this place.

The cost THB 2100 (600 for 90 min oil massage and 1500 for extra + tip.) I offered the tip and she had not asked for it.

Later in the evening went around Soi 33 bars, Monet, Renoir, and some other one. Had drinks at each of them and offered some of the ladies some drinks. The girls at these bars are not as young as Cowboy girls, but the bars and the girls were definitely better experience. Eventually did not select anybody and returned to LL. Thought of trying the Sports bar at LL for a drink and retiring for the day.

The Livingstone bar was one of the highlights of the tour. I was very impressed by this bar’s cosy ambience. Some of the girls are good looking, nobody is pushing for drinks and everybody is good to talk to. I sat with a nice looking girl and things just clicked with her. Bar fined her and had a very good night.

Overall cost seemed high at the time THB 4000(1000BF after 11pm + 3000LT) I am not counting the ladies drinks and food as these were offered by me and nobody had pressurised me.

Day 3:

Late afternoon, after work, I decided to try a nearby Massage Parlour. Had heard about a MP, Geisha. It is in a lane opposite to Livingstone, near Pan Pan restaurant. This one too offered a choice of 6 girls and selected one who looked youngest. Overall, room was good, massage was fantastic, and sex was also great. The cost THB 2100 (600 for 90 min oil massage and 1500 for extra + tip.) Tip was not asked for but I gave for a good session.

I decided to give Soi Cowboy a try again, in spite of the disappointing experience. I had heard so much about this and thought that I should not conclude based on one experience. I went to Shark as they are supposed to have the best girls. I did find the quality of the girls better than the other bars around. Found a stunner and called her for a drink after her stage dance. This girl was definitely the sexiest I had seen in Bangkok. She was 22 years, very attractive and I bar fined her after a drink or two. Took her to Livingstone and had a good session. However she was a clock watcher and was trying to hurry up the session. That was a bit disappointing. The cost THB 2600 (600 + 2000 + tip)

My conclusions after 3 days: The massage parlours were the best for a nice relaxed and tension-free session. They also were the best value for money. Soi Cowboy has young and attractive girls and the prices are lower. But the sex was not the best and I did not feel totally fulfilled.

Livingstone bar was expensive but the ambience was relaxed and the overall experience was great. In Livingstone and in other Soi 33 bars I could talk to the girls for a long time and there was no pressure from anyone for anything. I do offer the girls around drinks but it is as I feel one should for the time they are spending with you.

I had not talked to Giotto on this topic, till then, as I wanted my own experience and opinion first.

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When I was at Livingstones the last time about a year ago it was 1500 bht to barfine for overnight before 11 pm and then you tipped the girl whatever you thought she was worth (at least 1500 bht or more on top of the barfine. Just wondering if the price structure has changed.

[QUOTE=Weird One]When I was at Livingstones the last time about a year ago it was 1500 bht to barfine for overnight before 11 pm and then you tipped the girl whatever you thought she was worth (at least 1500 bht or more on top of the barfine. Just wondering if the price structure has changed.[/QUOTE]Weird One,

No price changes on our side (bar fine etc.).

What the girls get depends on the negotiations between the girl and the customer.


Giotto

[QUOTE=All Night Rider]After having been to all parts of the world I decided to try Bangkok this time. As I had some work in Bangkok, I decided to extend the trip by a few days to experience the pleasures of LOS. Did some reading on the forum and found that Livingstone Lodge will be the best place to stay.
...
I had not talked to Giotto on this topic, till then, as I wanted my own experience and opinion first.
...[/QUOTE]All Night Rider,

Welcome to the forum, and many thanks for your excellent first report.

Good read that you enjoyed your stay here at the Lodge. I cannot comment much on your report, I simply agree. It confirms all my own experiences of Bangkok.

And even if you had talked to me about your report before you wrote it -it woudn't have changed anything. Whatever your impression is - you write it. I can still comment on issues afterwards. The readers don't want to hear what I think - again and again - they want to know how you experienced you stay in Bangkok.

Hope to see you back at the Lodge soon.


Giotto

Just returned after an extraordinary trip to Bangkok, my first solo mongering tip. Having read the various forums, threads and the numerous sites selling or evaluating different services, decided to stay at Livingstone’s. And did not regret a bit. It is a small calm oasis in the midst of all the hustle and bustle, the food is outstanding and the service is great. Rooms are clean, quiet, well equipped and nice to stay. Not fancy but very practical.

Reached on the night of 26th (technically 27th) and after a fairly long flight just hit the bed.

Day 1- Had a lazy morning and ventured out for some sight-seeing. Went to a few malls – MBK, Siam Centre etc. Did not buy much though the prices were competitive. Returned to LL in the evening and to the bar. Had a drink or two, bought a few rounds for the girls but somehow the jet lag and having been out most of the day took its toll and hit the bed without companions. The girls in the sports bar at LL are very decent, not pushy for drinks or bar fining. If you want, you can have a drink by yourself while watching your favorite sporting action on the TV (which anyway I did watching live Wimbledon). Had a great day but still no action. .

Day 2. While walking lazily into the poolside restaurant area in the morning, saw two gentlemen discussing cricket so I joined the discussion. One of them turns out is "All Night Rider" while not sure of the other gent’s handle so would call him Mr X. Incidentally all 3 of us wanted to go out into the city so it was a free guided tour for me. We went to Pratunam bazaar, Pantip Plaza (before I saw the name I thought they called it Panty Plaza and I was conjuring up my own visuals. .). Then off to Nana, Soi Cowboy but finally returned to LL sports bar. The usual calm ambience, nice and pleasant girls. Had a few drinks and then decided to bar fine a girl. Turned out to be an excellent choice. Though a bit shy we hit it out so well and were so tired after doing the deed that woke up at 11. 30 the next day (both of us). She was then (of course) in a hurry to go home. Total cost was THB 1, 000 bar fine, THB 3, 000 for the girl and assorted drinks for me and the lady. Perhaps around THB 5, 000 for the whole great night.

Day 3.Since it was already well past mid day, went to a leather / shoe shop with Mr X (recommended by him). Turns out that this guy has a great reputation for custom made shoes. Ordered a pair of shoes of iguana leather with a matching belt. Since the place was close to Patpong, decided to look for the Star of Light bar, having heard a lot about the BJ bars. Found it quite easily but was not sure whether to try it out as the BJ was performed just opposite the bar on a sofa in full view of anyone at the bar. Anyway it was early and with no customers around, decided to give it a try. Just dropped my pants and a nice girl (said she was 22 but looked much younger) started the BBBJ straight away. And the girls at the bar walking past kept asking if I was enjoying. Well did not last long and she really cleaned me after the CIM taking in the last drop. Total cost THB 700 + drinks THB 200 + tip THB 100. Fantastic experience in THB 1000 while Mr X waited outside!

Decided to try Eden in the evening as ‘A’ level was something I was looking for. Chose a girl from the left (of course) and lo and behold, she chose another girl from the same side. Had a great time though changing rubber in between two ‘A’ levels was a bit frustrating. But all in all, a great time and the total cost was around THD 4, 200 with tips. Was too exhausted after the BJ bar and 2 shots at Eden and needed time to recuperate.

Day 4 – Not having fully recovered, tried out some other of the so many shopping malls, collected my shoes and finally around 8 PM landed at Annie’s massage parlor on Soi 2. They claim to be in business for 35 years. The fishbowl was full with around 25 ladies and another 15 sideliners. The cost was THB 1700 from the fishbowl and THB 2, 500 sideline (both 2 hrs). I was again looking for ‘A’ level so chose a busty mature lady 32 years old. And left grinning 2 hours later! BBBJ, CIM, ‘A’ level. Couldn’t have asked for more. And 2 shots were supposed to be the general norm and a great massage in between (most MP's offer only 1. 5 hrs). As I am generally not looking for 18 year olds, I had the time of my life. Was so happy that tipped her THB 1, 000 (now some of you may call me crazy but it was a fantasy fulfilled so I didn’t care).

It was then time to return to LL, have a drink or two with Mr X, say goodbye to the girls, pack up and leave for the red eye flight out of Bangkok leaving 0515 in the morning.

All in all, a fabulous experience. Would certainly recommend Livingstone’s if you are looking for quality at a reasonable price and friendly service (where else can you ask for breakfast at 1. 30 in the afternoon? ). The girls are also good, not aggressive at all and sweet. And you are left alone if you do not want to be disturbed.

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Day 4:

After breakfast met Giotto and discussed about my experiences, convenience of massage parlours, and the experiences of Cowboy and soi 33 girls.

Later in the evening I decided to try out some more Soi 33 bars.

Went to Office Bar and found it to be much livelier than the other bars in this area. However the main focus of this bar appeared to be sports. The girls were available but not so attractive. I could not find anybody interesting, so I came out after a few drinks.

I landed at the Livingstone bar. Met the girl I had bar-fined two days ago and sat with her over a few drinks. Bar-fined her, and probably that was one of the best decisions I had taken. The session was even better than last time, great sex and lots of GF experience.

Day 5:

Met two other guys at breakfast. Initially it started with sports and other topics, but eventually we realised that we are all there for the same reason. That’s another good thing about Livingstone, you will meet guys who share the same interests. Sitting by the pool, experiences were shared, about girls from all over the world.

The three of us went to check the situation together in the evening. First it was a quick visit to Nana. As it was early there were not many girls and we decided to move on to Cowboy.

Took them to Shark and met the sexy girl I had bar-fined. She was a stunner, but over drinks things were not clicking with her. The thing I did not like about Shark was that, the girl has to go and dance when her turn arrives, even if she is sitting with a customer with a drink. I was talking with the girl for barely ten minutes and she has to go on stage to dance for another twenty minutes.

Left from there and went to Livingstone, once again realising that this is the best place. This being a small bar you get to know most of the girls. Immediately I was told that my girl was not there that day and that was a bit disappointing as I would have loved one more session with her. It was a long evening with all three of us talking to many girls, playing pool and plenty of drinks and food. Eventually all of us selected one girl each, bar fined went to our rooms.

It was another great night. It was raining hard and that night and that led to an extra session or two.

Day 6:

The three of us had decided to meet at breakfast after the girls had left. Two of us were down at 10.30 and the third one well past noon. Livingstone’s anytime breakfast was perfectly designed for us people. Notes were compared and all of us had had great sessions.

Late afternoon I wanted to try the massage once more. Teen VIP and Geisha were both good and within two minutes walking distance. Decided on Teen VIP as the sex here was better. Selected a girl with the best boobs for one hour oil massage and went upstairs. She remembered me from my first visit when I had selected her friend. I told at the beginning that I was there for the extra service and she gave me a smile. We had a shower together and she applied some light oil. Then she started rubbing her decent sized boobs all over my back. I had a fantastic boob massage for almost fifteen minutes on the back and front and a great session of sex. She even gave me a light massage in the little time left. Overall a fantastic session and tipped her well according to the service received.

Met my friends in the evening and spent the last evening at the bar, sharing notes, playing pool, talking to girls and lots of drinks. My girl was there that day but did not want to bar-fine her as I had an early morning flight. Still she spent time with me and even joined me later for a very nice dinner by the pool.

Overall Conclusion:

Massage Parlours are definitely the best for a quick one to two hour session. Some Soi Cowboy girls are young and good looking but the experience could be a hit or miss. For a true girl friendly experience, Livingstone is the best option.

Livingstone is definitely a great place to be. The nice and clean rooms, good food, the poolside, meeting likeminded people, the bar, the girls and Giotto’s knowledge and advice will make it a fantastic holiday for everyone.

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[QUOTE=Sunnyboy]Just returned after an extraordinary trip to Bangkok, my first solo mongering tip. [/QUOTE]Sunnyboy,

Looks like you guys had two days of fun after I left.

That was a nice report of you visit.

We would have liked more details of the night when you bar-fined the girl and stayed with her well past noon.

All Night Rider

[QUOTE=Giotto]All Night Rider,

Hope to see you back at the Lodge soon.

Giotto[/QUOTE]Of Course, will be visiting the Lodge again.

Haven't tried the places you suggested and also have to try all the gems from your bar.

Will be visiting soon.

All Night Rider

I stayed 3 nights here in Giotto's lodge, so here are some opinions, tips and info.

The first night I'll keep uninteresting for you, I arrived late because my plane was late, so I got in about 3:00am. Too late to do anything very interesting so I just went to bed.

The second night, after some sightseeing, I decided to try Love Teen massage, which was recommended here. I went in and ordered the 2 hour Thai Massage, thinking I would get to choose the girl, but instead I was just presented with one. She looked ok though, so I just went along. I think it's because it wasn't an oil massage.

We went upstairs (2 flights) and showered, then I laid on my stomach on the little bed and she went to work. The massage was ok, but I had better things in mind, so I turned over and we got busy. She was pretty good... she had a nice, curvy (but not fat) body, and she smiled a lot. Her English wasn't great though. I got a BBBJ, then some CG, mish, and some more BBBJ to finish it off. Total damage was 600b for the massage and 1500b for the FS. If you really want to burn 4 hours here, though, I'm pretty sure you can let her massage you for 2 hours and then get FS for 2 more.

The second night, after more sightseeing (and some scamming, maybe I'll post about that later), I decided to try a few different venues.

First I went to some Nana places at about 5:30pm. I looked inside New Wave, it looked slow and there were plenty of ladies. Hopped across the street to Beergaden Soi 7. This place was packed to the gills with women. I've heard from a lot of posts here that lately the quality is not so good here, but I thought that 80% of these ladies were doable, and I think my standards are fairly high. I sat down briefly next to a girl (there wasn't really a choice, there were few seats available that were not next to one). She tried to strike up a conversation, but I didn't want to get bogged down with her, so instead of ordering a beer I just left. But I have to say that I feel like I definitely could have found someone decent here.

I also went into Gulliver's on the next Soi over, but don't remember seeing anything too exciting there. I went and ate and eventually went down to the Nana Entertainment Plaza. Here you will find all manner of bars and clubs, and on this Sunday night, there were few people in any of them, and a lot of women, mostly very decent looking. I had a beer at three different clubs.

1. Playskool. All of the women here were decent, and one or two I would rate a 9. I regret not barfining one of them now, she was really cute and had an awesome body.

2. G-Spot. I will never come back here again. First, they tried to sell me a little basket of balls for 100b. They tried to explain to me what they were for, but I could never figure it out. I think I was supposed to throw them at the girls, and they would show me their tits or something, but I didn't bother with it. About half of the girls here were dressed in school girl uniforms, most of them quite petite, and I wouldn't have minded barfining them, but I didn't get the chance because one girl came along and started giving me a lapdance. She showed me her shaved cootch, invited me to feel it (which I did), then took off her top and started rubbing her fake tits in my face. Ijust wasn't into this girl, I don't like either fake tits or shaved snatches, and I kept trying to get her off me without being rude, but she would just not take a hint. Finally I just paid the bill and left, only to get her to leave me alone. Some cute girls here, but I didn't get to try the ones I liked because of the very aggressive one that wouldn't get off me. Plus the mamasan was a ladyboy, and this just creeps me out. Incidentally, they have a whole bar full of ladyboys here called the Casanova Club, but if you can't figure out that these are ladyboys, you shouldn't be in Bangkok.

3. I finally ended up at Angelwitch. I don't recall reading much about this place, but I liked it best of all (despite the 150b beers). Lady drinks are only 150b, and the show was the best in the place. It was one or two girls, dressed in some kind of outfit, doing choreographed dances on the small stage. If you're into more artful nude dancing you'll like this place. And you don't have to throw ping-pong balls at the girls to get them to show you their tits. There were a few good looking women here too, and all decent. I negotiated one down to 600b barfine and 1500b ST back at my hotel, a cute little spinner, about 5' tall. She did a fine job, but nothing spectacular, except she started complaining about time, and I assumed that I had used my 2 hours that she promised. Later after she left I checked the time and it had only been 90 minutes, so that was a bit weak.

Anyway, it was really a buyer's market here last night. Most places had plenty of talent, and the big challenge was checking the ladies out without getting them to start bothering you. A lot of places were very slow and had 10 or 20 girls for 2-5 guys. I could have picked up a girl from the FL bars easily, and in Beergarden Soi 7 there were a ton of them.

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10 days and counting. I guess there are no ISGers staying at the LL now.

You doing OK, Dr. G?

Will see you in late August.

You have been advised Monsignor that the motto "now everyone can fly" applies even to those who carry twin white sticks - please ensure that you have booked your departure ticket well in advance to avoid even greater disappointment !!

[QUOTE=Tamurlane26]You have been advised Monsignor that the motto "now everyone can fly" applies even to those who carry twin white sticks - please ensure that you have booked your departure ticket well in advance to avoid even greater disappointment !![/QUOTE]
twin white sticks?

Twin white sticks?= chopsticks=asian

[QUOTE=Giotto]


Promotion Option No. 1:

Those members who stay in Livingstone’s Lodge for at least 3 consecutive nights will receive a voucher worth THB 1,000.00. That voucher can be used for a Steak- or Thai Dinner in our restaurants, to reduce (hopefully huge) bills from the sports lounge (including bar fines), or it can be presented during check out and will then deducted from your final room bill.

Promotion Option No. 2:

Those members who stay in Livingstone's Lodge for at least 5 consecutive nights will only pay for 4 nights.

Promotion Option No. 3:

Those members who stay in Livingstone's Lodge for at least 8 consecutive nights will only pay for 6 nights.


Conditions:

- The promotion started long time ago and lasts until 31.10.2009. Most likely it will be prolonged then.

- Members must send a PM to Giotto before arrival and identify themselves with their real (check-in) names that we can identify them as forum members

- Members must stay at least 3 nights, having booked directly (not via Travel agencies or Internet booking systems)

- Members must post at least ONE REPORT about their Bangkok travel experiences during that specific visit on the board, and inform Giotto per PM about the written report

- If the voucher option is taken the voucher will be issued for each stay, returning members will receive a voucher every time they stay here for at least 3 consecutive days.

- If the upgrade option is requested (Promotion Option No. 4) we need the request for that as a PM or E-Mail before arrival, to enable us to perform the necessary reservation planning.



[/QUOTE]


Giotto,

This is the first time i've seen this. That sounds like some quite good deals.
Especially option 3. Could there be a special bargain for 1-6 month tenants?

How would the Lodge be for a location compared to the NEP area? Are
there 7-11's and markets w/i a block or two? Easy transportation to soi 4?
Easy to find/get to/known by P4P girls on my phone list? How long would
it take to walk to Soi Cowboy or Soi 7? I walk very fast, BTW, and also
consider it good exercise/a part of my daily routine.

How are the ladies at the Lodge in terms of price, looks, and service?
Comparable to Annies or Angels MP girls?

What are the details on option number 4?

Gracius.

it would appear from my early morning call that mein host has already prepared for my impending visit to the dungeon. no sooner than responding to my pm he was out drinking until 5am - am most impressed that he feels the need to get in training for my return. of course this might be due to :-

a. shock - highly probable
b. fear - considerable
c. amazement - possible
d. practice - as he knows that am too young to drink therefore he must drink for two persons should he be so kind as to grace me with a tour of the locale !!

a good weekend to all

now the big question is will my reservation be accepted or shall the dungeon be moved to peep inn - sacre bleu !!

[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Giotto,

This is the first time i've seen this. That sounds like some quite good deals.
Especially option 3. Could there be a special bargain for 1-6 month tenants?

How would the Lodge be for a location compared to the NEP area? Are
there 7-11's and markets w/i a block or two? Easy transportation to soi 4?
Easy to find/get to/known by P4P girls on my phone list? How long would
it take to walk to Soi Cowboy or Soi 7? I walk very fast, BTW, and also
consider it good exercise/a part of my daily routine.

How are the ladies at the Lodge in terms of price, looks, and service?
Comparable to Annies or Angels MP girls?

What are the details on option number 4?

Gracius.[/QUOTE]7-11 is at the entrance of Soi 33. Supermarket on 33/1. Shopping mall Emporium right around corner on Suk. Phrom Pong Skytrain station around corner on Suk.

Please PM me your phone list (if possible, include pics and adresses), so that I can call your ladies and ask them whether they have heard of soi 33 and are able to find it.

Walk to Soi cowboy: used to be 15 min for me. Nowadays I fear I would be sidetracked and never make it to Cowboy if I walk.

Ladies: Looks are better than Annies (hahah that's not too difficult). Prices are higher (the ridiculous 33 barfine applies, then it's 1500-4000 depending on the usual variables). Service varies. Lot's of other options on 33, too.

Other perks are breakfast a la carte (I hate buffets!) whenever you want and served by my mia noi (gaah, she just doesn't know that yet). A bartender that knows what he's doing. Good steaks, good German food, good Thai food. And by now probably a manager with a diamond in one tooth :D

Giotto, I expect a discount for this post (on that ridiculous barfine...).

[QUOTE=PinkPearl]How would the Lodge be for a location compared to the NEP area? Are
there 7-11's and markets w/i a block or two? Easy transportation to soi 4?
Easy to find/get to/known by P4P girls on my phone list? How long would
it take to walk to Soi Cowboy or Soi 7? I walk very fast, BTW, and also
consider it good exercise/a part of my daily routine.
[/QUOTE]

The location is great for the reasons that Centaurus mentioned. Soi 33 has plenty of activities on it but they are pricey. It is 2 stops away from NEP on the BTS. Walking to Soi Cowboy will take maybe 15 mins but you can stop at Pit Stop on the way for a drink and some great live music. (hat tip to Cent!)

Cent,

After you are done with the list please forward those that are up to your standards so I can sample tomorrow afternoon.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Giotto,

This is the first time i've seen this. That sounds like some quite good deals.
Especially option 3. Could there be a special bargain for 1-6 month tenants?

How would the Lodge be for a location compared to the NEP area? Are
there 7-11's and markets w/i a block or two? Easy transportation to soi 4?
Easy to find/get to/known by P4P girls on my phone list? How long would
it take to walk to Soi Cowboy or Soi 7? I walk very fast, BTW, and also
consider it good exercise/a part of my daily routine.

How are the ladies at the Lodge in terms of price, looks, and service?
Comparable to Annies or Angels MP girls?

What are the details on option number 4?

Gracius.[/QUOTE]Hello Pink Pearl

Ok, let me try to answer your questions.

Our Lodge is located on Sukhumvit 33 witch is on of the so called "upper market " Bars. Most of the Bars are named after famous painters (Renoir, Gaugain, Van Gogh)

The Barfines here are higher than in the Nana area or Patpong. But you can't compare Nana ( or even Patpong ) to Soi 33. It has is own flair. But that is of course only in my POV.

There is a 7/11 just 200 meters away from us and a big Supermarket is also very close by.

The Skytrain is close by and gives you easy access to many parts of BKK.
Soi Cowboy is about 5-10 min walk from here, Nana around 30 min ( maybe you consider to take a taxi from here - about 40 THB )

We do not get involved into the " Service " from our Girl's, but i am pretty sure you will find some posts here about this. Every Girl is different and that is something between the Girl and yourself :) ( guess that applies for all parts of BKK and Asia).

You cannot compare us to some Massage places because as you (hopefully) will Livingstone's Lodge is different.

As for our promotion : You can choose the option once you arrived here. Just talk to us and we will do our best to give you the best option.

I hope I could help a bit.

To all the other guys here

Yes, its me, your Auntie Guido ;)

[QUOTE=Auntie Guido]
To all the other guys here

Yes, its me, your Auntie Guido ;)[/QUOTE]

Nice to hear from you auntie - you forgot to mention promotion also requires posting a report on ISG, no?

;)

the dungeon - a little treat reserved for the finest bestards

peep inn - just in case you transgress

car-park - you may join me there - this is reserved for special cases and to be inducted please bring two white sticks and feign ignorance of all other customs in thailand. or else qualify because your starts in the sports bar are so slow it is embarassing to all but your own family members.

and last but not least there is a family discount if you bring your father as chaperone.

guess that covers it

All,

I never thought that I would one day write this, but ...

I retire from the forum.

I have sent an E-Mail to Jackson (already some days ago) and thanked him for all his support during building up the business here at Livingstone's Lodge. Today - the Lodge is empty again, political unrest in Thailand, a worldwide recession and H1N1 is taking its toll. Still - I will not sell my soul.

Many of you have stayed here at the Lodge. If you want to come back - the Lodge will still be there. As for Giotto - he died already hundreds of years ago, and we should let him rest in peace.

[b]THANKS![/b]


Giotto

Sorry to see you go, Giotto. Hope one day you will be back. Keep well, and keep in touch. See you in September, my good friend. I'll have my tribe with me, so be prepared for my usual trouble-making, plus a bit extra.

Business in general will pick up again, but it will take about a year. Time to make plans and get ready for when that happens.

[QUOTE=Giotto]All,
I never thought that I would one day write this, but ...
I retire from the forum.
I have sent an E-Mail to Jackson (already some days ago) and thanked him for all his support during building up the business here at Livingstone's Lodge. Today - the Lodge is empty again, political unrest in Thailand, a worldwide recession and H1N1 is taking its toll. Still - I will not sell my soul.
Many of you have stayed here at the Lodge. If you want to come back - the Lodge will still be there. As for Giotto - he died already hundreds of years ago, and we should let him rest in peace.
[b]THANKS![/b]
Giotto[/QUOTE]

WTF ! :) Are you going to leave us alone on your Forum?
Well, do not want to interfere with your decision as one has to respect it.
We did not have the chance to meet during my 20hrs stay at the Lodge as my health was below zero.
Planning to show up in october, but please keep the communication line open here for all of us, maybe through Auntie?
This LL Forum is a special island!
Cheers
B.

Hi Giotto,

I am sorry to see you leaving. I enjoyed your contributions and I enjoyed the LL.
After OTH now you!

I am really sorry.

Carlos

i always thought that you were a stand up guy....i regret not being able to swing by your place for dinner with my russian babe in my white suit and engage you in conversation--even if i misunderstood a point or two of your's:)

godspeed on the road ahead sir, godspeed.


dd

Ah well, that's too bad but you will have good reasons. See you in a few months anyway. All the best.

[QUOTE=Giotto]All,

I never thought that I would one day write this, but ...

I retire from the forum.

I have sent an E-Mail to Jackson (already some days ago) and thanked him for all his support during building up the business here at Livingstone's Lodge. Today - the Lodge is empty again, political unrest in Thailand, a worldwide recession and H1N1 is taking its toll. Still - I will not sell my soul.
[/QUOTE]

Too bad that Jackson let things come to this. :(

It is sad to see so much going on in the Thai Forum lately, most posts today are about items that were discussed years ago, my first trip to BKK, where should I go for the MP, etc... Now many of us have seemed to move on or lost a kind of bond. SoapFan, NicFrenchy, OTH, Giotto, etc.... all mostly retired or MIA.

1Ball and Trav123 others I rarely see anymore and myself, still making mistakes and getting into trouble hahaha. I will be sorry to miss the banter and the enjoyment that there once was on the Thai Threads and the Giotto's Lodge Thread was a place people could come and enjoy and remember the times they had at LL and in BKK in general.

LL is an oasis for people to gather and meet up, and it appears that there is now time for a new group of maybe younger mongers to come in and take up the activities and reports. But the younger pup's will never be as good as PosterLion, Piper1, 1Ball and others no matter how much of a stud they think they are. Will miss the old place and group and wish everyone visit LL to form lifelong friendship with people that share our same goals, mongering for ladies.

Unfortunately, LL is more then mongering for ladies. For all my meals and times there I think monger for ladies was only 10% of the conversations. It is a place where you could discuss real items and personal items. Sometimes this lead to conflicts or disagreements but you could always walk away from the table knowing LL would still be there for you, and those friendships you found would still be there as well.

Wish Auntie and the gang at LL the best of luck and hope that LL can be for others what it was to many of us before the retirement and issues the Thai thread has had lately. Maybe we all just need six months to cool down, get laid, sort our lives and then come back.

RIP Giotto, OTH, and the others.... Thank you for all your contributions over the last 5 years or so. Wish you all well and happiness.... Hope some of us atleast can find that someday, but with Thai girls, this almost seems like an impossible dream hahahahaha... Cheers mates I'll hoist one for you.

I'll be back in town quickly and probably secretly in a little while then I'll be in for two - three weeks end of Aug to mid Sept. If any of the old guard is around shoot me a PM.

to continue the same topic my father, tansak started below, i must say one of the things i have enjoyed the most during my many stays at ll is the camaraderie between so many of the guys one meets there. always many forum members are there, be it for the first time, or the 20th time. i have made real friends thanks to ll, giotto of course being one of them.

when i walk into ll with my bags, and am greeted by name by the receptionist, ask the staff to bring everything up to my room, and bring the key back, and walk over in the direction of the pool, of course, giotto is there, but who else? i normally don't know. but there will be a few guys rep001tered around the pool, in pairs, alone, with a girl, with several girls, and giotto is always very cool about introducing people to each other, merely saying ....."you two share the same hobby". if it is a busy week, invariably several guys will plan a dinner, which more than likely will include a few lovely ladies, and mongering is rarely a topic discussed. instead, we will talk about so many interesting things, eat too much, drink too much, and have lots of fun. the food is outstanding, auntie hovers to make sure everybody is having a great time, and the result is we are still in touch with one another. i have run into some of these guys in many other places i have happened to be.

so even if giotto hangs up his hat, and doesn't post here anymore doesn't mean ll is dead. for newbies, imo, it is the only place to go, as it is full of information, and like minded people. for old farts like my father tansak, and my much older brother piper1, it is a place to go to run into old friends, and meet new ones.

i have never stayed in a place like this before. it is unique. it is very cool. please patronize it. if all goes to plan, my much older brother piper1, , pita123, 50/50, and i will be there together at the same time in august. all are welcome for an isg get together. there will be fireworks, the pool will be filled with naked bodies, food and drink will be overflowing from the tables, giotto will be pulling his hair out for fear the bib show up. what fun.

or you could stay at the grace hotel instead.................

ps. did i mention there are some hot looking babes who work there?

I am planning to stay at LL at the end of October. Of course I pick the time the Giotto decided to retried from ISG! This is my first time and a solo trip so I pick LL so I will can nice service to guide newbie like me.

[QUOTE=Big Joe 11]I am planning to stay at LL at the end of October. Of course I pick the time the Giotto decided to retried from ISG! This is my first time and a solo trip so I pick LL so I will can nice service to guide newbie like me.[/QUOTE]

Never fear - even though Giotto retired from ISG, LL is strong as ever and continues to be a great place to stay and/or visit! He and Auntie will still be around to help newbies.

Auntie- when is the next pool party?

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]...........Auntie will still be around to help newbies.[/QUOTE]
OMG, T1234,
Auntie, help the newbies? God help us all.............

Who will be around this weekend?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
LL is an oasis for people to gather and meet up, and it appears that there is now time for a new group of maybe younger mongers to come in and take up the activities and reports. But the younger pup's will never be as good as PosterLion, Piper1, 1Ball and others no matter how much of a stud they think they are. Will miss the old place and group and wish everyone visit LL to form lifelong friendship with people that share our same goals, mongering for ladies.

[/QUOTE]

Hmmm, I am quite sure that the "old guard" from the 70's probably thought the same about you as well.

Be it as it may, Thailand will continue to be Thailand, long after we are all pushing up daisies and dreaming of a MP heaven.

The best we can do is enjoy times to their fullest, and live life. Change is the only thing we can be certain of. Oh yea, and we are all going to die some day.

Someone wrote on the Thai thread some time ago, 'take two young girls a day and call me in the morning'. I'm paraphrasing of course, but still, T.I.T.

Will visit LL out of curiosity soon, but will probably just hang out by the pool and not partake in any activities. (hahahahah) Just kidding di ba?

aloha,

C.

[QUOTE=Carmex]Hmmm, I am quite sure that the "old guard" from the 70's probably thought the same about you as well. aloha [/QUOTE]

From my neck of the woods???

Aloha auina la. Pehea ' oe? Kala mai ia'u.

I am sure you are correct. The old guards paved the way for the young guns today.

Mahalo a hui hou

[QUOTE=1Ball]OMG, T1234,
Auntie, help the newbies? God help us all.............[/QUOTE]


Shhhhhhhh....

[QUOTE=Carmex]Hmmm, I am quite sure that the "old guard" from the 70's probably thought the same about you as well.
[/QUOTE]
Whatcha talk'n about ? Tansak [b]IS[/B] the old guard from the 70s.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Whatcha talk'n about ? Tansak [b]IS[/B] the old guard from the 70s.[/QUOTE]

Hahahahahahah! Good one.

Aloha T,

Junior boy, East side Kaaawa/Kahana Bay. Off island now cuz work wen move me.

malama pono brudda,

C.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Whatcha talk'n about ? Tansak [b]IS[/B] the old guard from the 70s.[/QUOTE]

At least I got hair (and my original / real hair) and TWO balls

[QUOTE=Big Joe 11]I am planning to stay at LL at the end of October. Of course I pick the time the Giotto decided to retried from ISG! This is my first time and a solo trip so I pick LL so I will can nice service to guide newbie like me.[/QUOTE]Don't worry - Giotto is still around - he checks into ISG every day, even as a retiree in his wheel-chair, bath-coat, slippers and sipping warm milk. I'm sure the old boy can arrange a booking for you. The Lodge is a great place to stay, seriously.

As for you, younger-brother 1Ball, I'll kick your ass when we meet again in a few weeks! Grrrrr. :)

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Hey Piper - Been reading that OTH is back full Senior member status - but have as yet read anything from him.

Also, what happened to Giotto?? How come he's dropped off??

Hope I'm not stirring anything up - but I miss both these guys' posts. Really!!
No matter how canatankerous some of 'em are - at least they're the real thing!

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Hi, SE Asia Joe,

We all know what happened to Giotto. Wikipedia:

[i][b]Giotto's remains[/b]

Giotto died in January of 1337. According to Vasari, Giotto was buried in Santa Maria del Fiore, the Cathedral of Florence, on the left of the entrance and with the spot marked by a white marble plaque. According to other sources, he was buried in the Church of Santa Reparata. These apparently contradictory reports are explained by the fact that the remains of Santa Reparata lie directly beneath the Cathedral and the church continued in use while the construction of the cathedral was proceeding in the early 14th century.

During an excavation in the 1970s bones were discovered beneath the paving of Santa Reparata at a spot close to the location given by Vasari, but unmarked on either level. Forensic examination of the bones by anthropologist Francesco Mallegni and a team of experts in 2000 brought to light some facts that seemed to confirm that they were those of a painter, particularly the range of chemicals, including arsenic and lead, both commonly found in paint, that the bones had absorbed.

The bones were those of a [b]very short man, of little over four feet tall, who may have suffered from a form of congenital dwarfism :):).[/b] This supports a tradition at the Church of Santa Croce that a dwarf who appears in one of the frescoes is a self portrait of Giotto. On the other hand, a man wearing a white hat who appears in the Last Judgement at Padua is also said to be a portrait of Giotto. The appearance of this man conflicts with the image in Santa Croce.

Vasari, drawing on a description by Boccaccio, who was a friend of Giotto, says of him that [b]"there was no uglier man in the city of Florence" :):) [/b] and indicates that his children were also plain in appearance. There is a story that Dante visited Giotto while he was painting the Arena Chapel and, seeing the artist's children underfoot asked how a man who painted such beautiful pictures could create such plain children, to which Giotto, who according to Vasari was always a wit, replied "I made them in the dark."

Forensic reconstruction of the skeleton at Santa Reperata showed a short man with a very large head, a large hooked nose and one eye more prominent than the other. The bones of the neck indicated that the man spent a lot of time with his head tilted backwards. The front teeth were worn in a way consistent with frequently holding a brush between the teeth. The man was about 70 at the time of death.

While the Italian researchers were convinced that the body belonged to Giotto and it was reburied with honour near the grave of Brunelleschi, others have been highly sceptical. [/i]

[b]And we all have forgotten OTH already. [/b]

Let Giotto rest in peace.


Giotto (reincarnation [computer] virus)

PS:
Not even smileys are working any more since I died. And I always thought those smileys are peaceful and not antagonistic. Stupid me!

[QUOTE=Giotto]
[b]Giotto's remains[/b]

The bones were those of a [b]very short man, of little over four feet tall, who may have suffered from a form of congenital dwarfism :):).[/b]

[b]"there was no uglier man in the city of Florence" [/b]

.....a short man with a very large head, a large hooked nose and one eye more prominent than the other..... The man was about 70 at the time of death.

Giotto (reincarnation [computer] virus)

PS:
Not even smileys are working any more since I died.[/QUOTE]
A big round of applause for Mrs Giotto who has to sleep with such a [b]hansum man[/b].

Now go away, as VP of the place, I am mounting a "coup" to take it over and turn it into a gay bar. (Piper1 is coming soon)

What the fuck happened to the smileys?

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
Now go away, as VP of the place, I am mounting a "coup" to take it over and turn it into a gay bar. (Piper1 is coming soon)

What the fuck happened to the smileys?[/QUOTE]Mr. President,

It's all yours. [b]Bestards[/b], please Welcome the New President of the Club of the Bestards!
...
Giotto painted frescos in The Basilica of San Francesco d'Assisi. In my POV this is the most beautiful church in the world.

Down from Assisi, in the valley, there is another church - San Damiano. In fact it is today a cathedreal built over another smaller chapel (the original San Damiano). Hundreds of years ago San Francis had his mystical vision of Jesus Christ there who said to him: "Francis, Francis, go and repair My house which, as you can see, is falling into ruins".

We all know this from school, a bit simplified: "Francis, rebuild my Church!"

San Francis that time misunderstood the message, and he started to physically rebuild San Damiano ... in fact the theologists today interprete this message more that the catholic church should be cleaned up of all the cancerous diseases this religion had accumulated over centuries, that it should be rebuild.

Mr. President,

As you take over now, I have this last guidelines for you:

[B]MR. PRESIDENT, REBUILD THE FORUM![/B]

[B]MR. PRESIDENT, DO NOT FORGET OTH![/B]

Rebuild what has been destroyed by the few ignorant and selfish members of this site, who misuse their power to burn witches and to censor - as it happened end of the middle age, too.

May San Francis be with you!


Giotto (Resting in Peace)

PS: If this report is disturbing - just delete it, as usual.

You do understand this is why many posters didn't like OTH? At least, true or not, that is the way they percieved him to be, some of the time. Personally, though, of course, i had no problem with his style, and rather enjoyed it.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl]You do understand this is why many posters didn't like OTH? At least,
true or not, that is the way they percieved him to be, some of the time.
Personally, though, of course, i had no problem with his style, and
rather enjoyed it.[/QUOTE]

Of course, but I'm not a pansy and know where the ignore button is. And for some reason he wasn't my leader or in control. Or atleast not that I know about.

But back to our holly mission and lets pray.... This was a church I prayed at.... Wonder if any others practiced in this church or not....

Miss Stretch-mark of the century?

What's my prize? :)

[QUOTE=Piper1]Miss Stretch-mark of the century?

What's my prize? :)[/QUOTE]

Her phone number ... WHERE are our damn smiley's....

She's actually your kind of girl, she is cheap, she likes to be tied up, she is OK to be with other girls, she can hump many times a day, she is ok with toys, she was tight (atleast for my small dick so for sure she'd be tight for you).

Can be wet a moments notice and does an adequate BJ and does anal. Someone taught her well.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Her phone number ... WHERE are our damn smiley's....

She's actually your kind of girl, she is cheap, she likes to be tied up, she is OK to be with other girls, she can hump many times a day, she is ok with toys, she was tight (atleast for my small dick so for sure she'd be tight for you).

Can be wet a moments notice and does an adequate BJ and does anal. Someone taught her well.[/QUOTE]Hey what! I don't like cheap, but I like a girl who likes to be tied up and be humped many times.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Her phone number ... WHERE are our damn smiley's....

She's actually your kind of girl, she is cheap, she likes to be tied up, she is OK to be with other girls, she can hump many times a day, she is ok with toys, she was tight (atleast for my small dick so for sure she'd be tight for you).

Can be wet a moments notice and does an adequate BJ and does anal. Someone taught her well.[/QUOTE]
Can you Fedex her to me please?

[QUOTE=Piper1]Hey what! I don't like cheap, but I like a girl who likes to be tied up and be humped many times.[/QUOTE]

Cheap meaning she's not going to overcharge... she's actually very clean, and You should see the strap to bed, handcuff, tie up and other video's we did. She's willing to go many rounds as you can get it up. Poor girl... she did not know what she was getting into with me on that issue.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Can you Fedex her to me please?[/QUOTE]

She has passport but no Visa.... I guess we all just need to meet in Aug / Sept to discuss these issues...

Since you are now President I'll let you do with her as you please then hand down to the rest... But I know you only like the foot jobs so she would still be fresh for the others ...

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Cheap meaning she's not going to overcharge... she's actually very clean, and You should see the strap to bed, handcuff, tie up and other video's we did. She's willing to go many rounds as you can get it up. Poor girl... she did not know what she was getting into with me on that issue.[/QUOTE]Okay - send me her number so she can be truly satisfied, poor girl.

Sigh. The things I have to do.

I was just wondering with all the changes that seem to be going on behind the scenes with the old guard at Livingstones, is it still the same atmosphere in the sports lounge with all the girls and around the lodge as it was when I stayed there a year ago?

I am booked into the lodge in September and want to be sure I will have the same great time as I did back then, it seems like everybody is kind of on a downer now and not as upbeat as usual. Just want to have as good a time as the last time. If anyone can shed any light on the current situation I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Weird One

[QUOTE=Giotto]Hi, SE Asia Joe,

We all know what happened to Giotto. Wikipedia:

[b]And we all have forgotten OTH already. [/b]

Let Giotto rest in peace.

Giotto (reincarnation [computer] virus)

PS:
Not even smileys are working any more since I died. And I always thought those smileys are peaceful and not antagonistic. Stupid me![/QUOTE]

Whoa dere...... you cain't just ride off into the sunset...... like THIS!!

Let's see...... how do we really reincarnate you....??

Oh I Know..... Giotto: "Your place is stuffed full of plastic covered chairs....."
THERE!!!

You coming back??

SEAJ

Ps. And OTH - here's my tonic for you: "You've really got butt ugly gals..." THERE!!

[QUOTE=Giotto] ...... a short man with a very large head, a large hooked nose and one eye more prominent than the other. The bones of the neck indicated that the man spent a lot of time with his head tilted backwards. The front teeth were worn in a way consistent with frequently holding a brush between the teeth. The man was about 70 at the time of death.[/QUOTE]
Wow, isn't science wonderful. They got you down to a tee, Giotto! ;-)

Damn, smileys don't work for me either.

[QUOTE=Piper1]Okay - send me her number so she can be truly satisfied, poor girl.

Sigh. The things I have to do.[/QUOTE]
Why make her wait around for you when she can have me tonight? What's the number?

[QUOTE=Weird One]I was just wondering with all the changes that seem to be going on behind the scenes with the old guard at Livingstones, is it still the same atmosphere in the sports lounge with all the girls and around the lodge as it was when I stayed there a year ago?

I am booked into the lodge in September and want to be sure I will have the same great time as I did back then, it seems like everybody is kind of on a downer now and not as upbeat as usual. Just want to have as good a time as the last time. If anyone can shed any light on the current situation I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Weird One[/QUOTE]Weird One. No worries. I stayed at the lodge last week. The sports bar full of beautifull girls (ended up barfining the mamasan. But that another story). Giotto glued to the keyboard of his pc, had hardly any time to smoke. Guido making sure everybody are ok. No change from my previous visits to LL.

It's low season. Very low, maybe lower than ever (low season + H1N1 & financial crisis ect.). And that can be hard on a hotel owner.

So: "Support our local lodge. Keep commin back". I, for one, will be back in middle of September.

ValeVincent

[QUOTE=Weird One]I was just wondering with all the changes that seem to be going on behind the scenes with the old guard at Livingstones, is it still the same atmosphere in the sports lounge with all the girls and around the lodge as it was when I stayed there a year ago? [/QUOTE]

Why would the issues of a couple Bestards affect the lovely young ladies? It is not a gay bar no matter how hard Giotto and my brother 1Ball are trying to turn it into one (damn I wish I had smileys)

The girls are there waiting to take care of you...

After first reading your post I was wondering what kind of tobacco you are smoking... Seriously, no change. People have repeatedly said NO CHANGE... girls, good food, good rooms, etc... The good sex is up to your abilities. But if you need help in that area I understand there are some magic pills easily available in thailand for those in need hahahaha

(don't take it personally just shitting around with you)

[QUOTE=Pita123]Why make her wait around for you when she can have me tonight? What's the number?[/QUOTE]

Our newly elected president gets her first then he can had her down... but she is desperate from cash the last I heard from her. I did kind of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off recently however.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. President,

As you take over now, I have this last guidelines for you:

[B]MR. PRESIDENT, REBUILD THE FORUM![/B]

[B]MR. PRESIDENT, DO NOT FORGET OTH![/B]

Rebuild what has been destroyed by the few ignorant and selfish members of this site, who misuse their power to burn witches and to censor - as it happened end of the middle age, too.

May San Francis be with you!


Giotto (Resting in Peace)

PS: If this report is disturbing - just delete it, as usual.[/QUOTE]Yeah yeah, it is disturbing indeed. You are not a martyr, you are a romantic.

This forum here is an extension of the LL. It is possible to loosen up here and chat because it transcends the virtual space and has a very visual connection to real space: We know exactly how you look when you post here. At this time of the day (10 am), to post here feels like having breakfast and Ms Bae bringing us our 3rd coffee. It feels as real as a messageboard can get.

Which, then, is part of the LL-formula of personalized service and attention to detail.

And if you leave this virtual space that you basically created, it is as if Giotto had committed suicide. He didn't. He died working on The Last Judgement ... :P

So, get your act together, "quit" from everywhere else but here, do not talk to Jackson any more, have a Bordeaux with OTH and pick up your duties as our host again.

Voila, take that. And good morning, btw :P

PS: No offense, 1Ball, and please carry on as vice-president.

[QUOTE=Centaurus]
So, get your act together, "quit" from everywhere else but here, do not talk to Jackson any more, have a Bordeaux with OTH and pick up your duties as our host again.

Voila, take that. And good morning, btw :P

PS: No offense, 1Ball, and please carry on as vice-president.[/QUOTE]
Excellent idea. best idea in weeks.
and, Centaurus, no offense taken.......wink...

where are those damn smileys??? Jackson, zip up, and get to work fixing this nonsense.

[quote=1ball]now go away, as vp of the place, i am mounting a "coup" to take it over and turn it into a gay bar. (piper1 is coming soon) [/quote]
bloody hell, i've been reading quite a few articles on various sites about how thailand has been going downhill recently, but have always convinced myself it's just doommongering. but if the lodge is going over to the other side, things must be really bad. i am considering flying over and leading the resistance from a base in the peep inn.

I will be back in LL in a weeks time, always stay here, see how many of the girls remember me, though embaressingly I never seem to remember their names.

See all there on the 1st.

And at last a report from my humble self... had the pleasure of about 3 weeks in the Lodge back in June, my first stay. Before anyone gets sick with envy, I was there "on business", aka work, which occupied more of my time and energy than I would have liked. Though thanks to the wonders of the internet and the surprisingly good wireless connection I was able to get quite a bit done by the pool.

It is definitely a very unique hotel and I felt at home there right away, even before meeting Auntie G. and the guy formerly known as Giotto. I was somewhat confused by the breakfast system, turning up as I did on my first morning at the heinously early hour of 8:05 am, when there was seemingly no-one about, but things worked themselves out soon enough. The staff were all friendly and competent, though it took me about a week to charm more than a minuscule smile out of the girl I named "Unsmiley Waitress"; actually a nice lady but I guess not so much a morning person, which I am not really either, and I later had grounds to suspect she must have thought I was a bit of a miserable git always breakfasting with no company save for my faithful laptop.

From an, err, entertainment point of view the Lodge is in an excellent location, Soi 33, which I had not previously visited. The "Dead Artist" places didn't really look my cup of tea and I had neither the time or the inclination to visit them. Next time maybe. I was delighted however to discover "Love Teen", which is a short walk down the soi and an excellent place to take a relaxing break on those days I was tied to the internet in the hotel room. In fact I went there often enough to gain a certain rapport with one of the girls (don't ask me the name, I've forgotten already), which improved the experience a lot. The famed "Tulip" is also just one Skytrain stop away, and another favourite of mine, Angel, is a a short walk past the nearby Emporium. In the other direction Soi Cowboy is just about within walking distance, or one Skytrain stop (Asok), and beyond that of course are the delights of lower Sukhumwit. (One slight problem if wanting to go in that direction by taxi is crossing Sukhumwit at the junction with Soi 33, there is a zebra crossing but no lights, so crossing there is often a bit of an adventure).

The Lodge does of course also come equipped with its own Sports Lounge where I was able to hone my sadly neglected billiard skills. There always seemed to be a lot of young ladies hanging about who wanted to make friends with me, in the nicest non-pushy way, though many were surprisingly lousy at billiards. Had I been on holiday I would have been a lot more proactive in inviting them to my excellently appointed room for some practice at putting things into other things, but at the time a good's night sleep was, alas, of vital import at least for the first two weeks while I was there. Still, it was nice to have somewhere to hang out in the evening without any undue pressure.

Tragically for the girls in the bar, by the third week I had managed to run into an old flame, who I thought would probably want to cut my balls off (long story), but who had forgiven me for whatever sins I may have committed and still loved me, at least for my body, which pretty much accounted for the remaining evenings / nights. Amusingly, she looks and acts like she just got off the bus from deepest Isaan, and is very much not Soi 33 material, which earned the odd bitchy glance from a couple of the girls I had previously spent time with.

The only real problem I had was when checking out, as the local bank credit card handler seemed to be unable to authorize my credit card, even after an hour of trilingual phone calls between my credit card company, the hotel and the local bank, and I ended up having to do a round of the local ATMs (including having a slight heart attack at the Bank of Ayuhda ATM which wasn't charging the 150 baht fee but did decided to crash spectacularly, appearing to swallow my credit card). Nevertheless I will certainly be back, hopefully in a couple of months, and with a bit more free time on my hands (assuming 1Ball's proposed coup attempt isn't successful, of course).

[QUOTE=ValeVincent]Weird One. No worries. I stayed at the lodge last week. The sports bar full of beautifull girls (ended up barfining the mamasan. But that another story). Giotto glued to the keyboard of his pc, had hardly any time to smoke. Guido making sure everybody are ok. No change from my previous visits to LL.

It's low season. Very low, maybe lower than ever (low season + H1N1 & financial crisis ect.). And that can be hard on a hotel owner.

So: "Support our local lodge. Keep commin back". I, for one, will be back in middle of September.

ValeVincent[/QUOTE]I am looking forward to being there the middle of September.

as the impending coup is being mounted from the south one has to take responsibility for being the advance guard - simply by virtue of geographical location and being further north thus in closer striking range.

i shall be going incognito as usual and shall don my usual disguise as johnny singlish - alas since the last visit the "perut" has become more "gendut" however this will convince auntie that i have not been there before !!

simply hoping that the white sticks are not too much of a giveaway nor the ineptitude in the sports bar - reminder to brain do not engage madam in eye contact or invite her to attempt nefarious deeds.

also do not sleep in either the dungeon or the car park of peep inn as this would blow the cover.

this a dangerous mission but it must be undertaken in the interests of the free world

[quote=tamurlane26]as the impending coup is being mounted from the south one has to take responsibility for being the advance guard - simply by virtue of geographical location and being further north thus in closer striking range.

i shall be going incognito as usual and shall don my usual disguise as johnny singlish - alas since the last visit the "perut" has become more "gendut" however this will convince auntie that i have not been there before !!

simply hoping that the white sticks are not too much of a giveaway nor the ineptitude in the sports bar - reminder to brain do not engage madam in eye contact or invite her to attempt nefarious deeds.

also do not sleep in either the dungeon or the car park of peep inn as this would blow the cover.

this a dangerous mission but it must be undertaken in the interests of the free world[/quote]
sorry to hear about the "perut" old singlish. it happens to most of us, and to me in particular.

hopefully you can burn a few calories while at work .......wink.

One thing for sure is that LL knows how to cater to all requirements. Have been informed that the dungeon has had added heat installed in order to allow the "perut" to slim rapidly.

The reason for this is that Giotto left word on his deathbed "alas Singlish is so slow that the only way he will lose calories is if we fry him alive"

Am hoping that Auntie was not at his side and that this is all a rumour - i shall be wearing my red cape and underwear in case as perhaps kryptonite is harder to fry than my lard and they may be fooled.

Roll on Friday night

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Our newly elected president gets her first then he can had her down... but she is desperate from cash the last I heard from her. I did kind of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off recently however.[/QUOTE]

What are you some kind of Pimp? (where are the Fucking SMILEYS !!!!!)

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]And on top of that I'm arranging customers for girls I've thrown away now.... And now the girls I do know won't even go with me anymore because you bestards pay the same amount but screew less.[/QUOTE]I screew even less than Nic. Not even Yok made me cum twice (Nadea did, though, muahaha).

I also have a higher allowance than him (darn Nic, stop being such an abnoxious bastard over there where I don't post any more).

And I liked Guitar.

That was my resumee.

Now, right now the position of my personal OKT is open. Please PM with offers.

[QUOTE=Centaurus]I screew even less than Nic. Not even Yok made me cum twice (Nadea did, though, muahaha).
[/quote] Yok got me to go 4 times and then months later when I saw her again she complained that I made her to all the work last time. Damn good memory that woman has.

I think I saw Nadea on my way out last time. She looked pretty good. I'd just finished with Jane who has an amazing mouth on her. (Wait, are we allowed to talk about the flower shop in here?)

Given that I will arrive late Sunday night - where is the best place to get the best rate of currency exchange from American dollars to Baht? I will be gone for one week to PP in Cambodia and return Sunday afternoon for a 'pit stop' into (or is that to) TULIP. Is there any place along the Suk that I can get money changed on Sunday?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Bull shit that's your resume. You forget that I know you. You act innocent but you're as much of a bestard as the rest of us and maybe even a bigger butterfly then 90% of this board.[/QUOTE]:(

so you do not want to be my personal OKT??

PS: just in case: OKT is short form for oh kui tao. Hokkien for someone who guards chickens (= pimp, but nicer)

[QUOTE=Pita123]I think I saw Nadea on my way out last time. She looked pretty good. I'd just finished with Jane who has an amazing mouth on her. (Wait, are we allowed to talk about the flower shop in here?)[/QUOTE]Jane, huh? June had a wonderful tongue, too.

I think it's ok if we only talk about white flowers, in honor of Sr. G, RIP.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I'm being moderated now for speaking freely so it won't be long until I get banned or retire. You can email me. I'm tired of lining other people's pockets if they will ban folks who they dislike or disagree with.[/QUOTE]I AM KIDDING, you OKT, you!

But actually some contingency planning might be a good idea. Like, leave siikrit messages in the dead Giotto's coffin or something (not kidding here).

T, why oh why did this make me think of you???

[QUOTE=Aey Annies]No 12 last week f*ucked a customer so hard and for so long she broke his dick... Since then 12 has been very busy with bookings vie email. I guess from the forums where the customer explained that his dick was broken by her because as she fucked him so much.[/QUOTE]
Aey does post some entertaining stuff :D

Seriously, how does one cure a broken dick?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]A guy got his dick stuck in a pig in my country. Don't think they had to amputate it or break it to remove it. And last I heard the pig was still OK. [/QUOTE]In my uni student days I worked in restaurant kitchens - I was sacked from one job when I got my dick stuck in the dishwasher in the back room.

But she kept her job. Not fair.

[QUOTE=Piper1]In my uni student days I worked in restaurant kitchens - I was sacked from one job when I got my dick stuck in the dish-washer in the back room.

But she kept her job. Not fair.[/QUOTE]I screwed a waitress in one of my restaurants. I lost my restaurant, girl friend and condo. Oh I even went to jail for a night.

Now that's not fair.

Of course I am one dumb SOB.

[QUOTE=Pita123]Didn't Monsieur Nic break his dick a while back?[/QUOTE]

You BESTARD!!!!!! Yes, and I do NOT thank you to bring back such painful memories :(

Hahaha

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You BESTARD!!!!!! Yes, and I do NOT thank you to bring back such painful memories :(

Hahaha[/QUOTE]His dick also failed to respond for beautiful young ladies for a time there also if I remember correctly.

Pita123,

I bow to Thy power, as Thee raiseth the dead and maketh them talk :D

[QUOTE=Giotto]...AND THE NEXT ONE IS INTERESTED IN MY ASS.

Is that a new disease here? Contagious :):):) ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]PS: Why so worried about your ass, G.? Weren't you a fan of Rin? So relax and enjoy.

No wonder Piper thinks I am gay... you guys talk about my dick all the time :(

Hey guys - need a little advice. Got a couple pair of pants that need shortening...any tailor to recommend? Preferably not in the Sukumvit Rd area as the Mrs. will be with me. MBK should have plenty, any specific one?

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Hey guys - need a little advice. Got a couple pair of pants that need shortening...any tailor to recommend? Preferably not in the Sukumvit Rd area as the Mrs. will be with me. MBK should have plenty, any specific one?[/QUOTE]If you enter MBK from the BTS side... walk all the way down to the other end. Either on the 2nd or 3rd floor. Not in that mob scene of the clothing area but can't remember if it is second or third floor, can't really remember the floor. But all the way at the FAR end farthest from the BTS entrance area.

But my tailor is on Sukhumvit.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]If you enter MBK from the BTS side... walk all the way down to the other end. Either on the 2nd or 3rd floor. Not in that mob scene of the clothing area but can't remember if it is second or third floor, can't really remember the floor. But all the way at the FAR end farthest from the BTS entrance area.

But my tailor is on Sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, found a couple at MBK. Seems like shortening pants is standard b200 price. Will bring over next weekend.

I'll buzz you if I can sneak out :)

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Will somebody please report this guy's next report via the "Report this Post to a Moderator" link.

Thanks,

Giotto
[/red]

[QUOTE=The Traveler][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [red]
This report was deleted because The Traveler is not allowed [any more] to post reports in this forum.

Will somebody please report this guy's next report via the "Report this Post to a Moderator" link.

Thanks,

Giotto[/red][/QUOTE]
I must say you should feel honored, Giotto, that even though, with his usual under handness, the traveler insulted you with this post, he posted his first remark in months, in your forum.

I am also surprised it took so long to delete that report. :)

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
I am also surprised it took so long to delete that report. :)[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

I am surprised about my patience, too. This can only happen if one is retired :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Thanks, found a couple at MBK. Seems like shortening pants is standard b200 price. Will bring over next weekend.

I'll buzz you if I can sneak out :)[/QUOTE]Great but I'll be in MNL.

Won't be in BKK for a little while longer. And when I am I will try to act nice infront of the the wife. But I'm going to be on a mongering mission since my work is already done. We just signed a new deal that was giving me headaches and problems so now I get 18 days or so to Rabbit. Plus the issues with the TGF are sorted out so now I got free time.

But seriously what happened, your wife cut you off at the knees that why you need to shorten your pants or you just getting so damn old that you are shrinking?

Get me / save me some of those PGA shirts, the one I got before is too big. I'm not your size but I'm not a XXXXL anymore hahahahaha

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Great but I'll be in MNL.
...
But seriously what happened, your wife cut you off at the knees that why you need to shorten your pants or you just getting so damn old that you are shrinking?

Get me / save me some of those PGA shirts, the one I got before is too big. I'm not your size but I'm not a XXXXL anymore hahahahaha[/QUOTE]Mr. Rabbit KTV,

I am worried about the Marketing Director, too. He is in Bangkok and has not been here up to now. So - what is wrong :):):) ?

PGA Shirts - yes! When do we get the PGA shirts with "Giotto's Lodge" on it ? Will Tiger Woods be staying at the Lodge soon :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Rabbit KTV,

I am worried about the Marketing Director, too. He is in Bangkok and has not been here up to now. So - what is wrong :):):) ?

PGA Shirts - yes! When do we get the PGA shirts with "Giotto's Lodge" on it ? Will Tiger Woods be staying at the Lodge soon :) ![/QUOTE]That would be great for the Giotto's lodge shirts but seriously. I'm not bull shitting. Where are my PGA shirts?

And the Marketing Director has the family unit with him. He has to be like me, get married, get divorced, get married, get divorced, get married, get divorced etc.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Rabbit KTV,
I am worried about the Marketing Director, too. He is in Bangkok and has not been here up to now. So - what is wrong :):):) ?
PGA Shirts - yes! When do we get the PGA shirts with "Giotto's Lodge" on it ? Will Tiger Woods be staying at the Lodge soon :) !
Giotto[/QUOTE]

Mr. Chairman

Glad to see you're back. Unfortunately my hands are tied this trip. The wife is following me everywhere so I am staying away from Sukhumvit area completely!

Yup.... figured all this out.... all this banning, arguing, deleting, flaming, insults, retiring .... and then un-retiring and then more fighting....

You guys are ALL working for the Thai Tourism Bureau - sponsored by Giotto -to divert attention to the Thailand threads and get tourist arrival figures back.... ditto the occupancy ratio at the Lodge!!!

Truly dastardly - or is that destardly??!!

SEAJ

Edit and Ps AFTER 7 hours interim!!
- Why no comments on this?? Heck you guys comment on everything else under the sun!!

:):):) :D


Giotto

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
Get me / save me some of those PGA shirts, the one I got before is too big. I'm not your size but I'm not a XXXXL anymore hahahahaha[/QUOTE]

I'll go shopping next week for some shirts - maybe use it as an excuse to drop them off at LL...then can make an abbreviated trip to Tulips or Akane

:D

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I'll go shopping next week for some shirts - maybe use it as an excuse to drop them off at LL...then can make an abbreviated trip to Tulips or Akane

:D[/QUOTE]

Good move... I'm a US Large sometime medium... About 10 sizes lower then before.... :D

But I'm going to be stuck in MNL then I'll be a rampaging rabbit for a while in BKK hope you are still around.

Tell the Mrs. that the Minister of XXX country is coming in to meet with you. You can even take my card home to prove to her (and if she checks it, it is verifiable). We can just hold our meeting at an MP.

And actually, we might have some business to talk, seriously if you are still around.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Good move... I'm a US Large sometime medium... About 10 sizes lower then before.... :D
We can just hold our meeting at an MP.
[/QUOTE]

I'm here till first week Sept and yes an MP is perfect place to meet up. We can get a VIP room, I want to see the slimmer more energetic rabbit at work.

Shirt size duly noted :D

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]...
Unfortunately my hands are tied this trip. The wife is following me everywhere so I am staying away from Sukhumvit area completely![/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,

That problem can easily be fixed. Just forward your wife's E-Mail address to me, and I send her the videos of your last visit.

Then you are free :D !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I'm here till first week Sept and yes an MP is perfect place to meet up. We can get a VIP room, I want to see the slimmer more energetic rabbit at work.

Shirt size duly noted :D[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a plan. I'll provide the excuses you provide the shirts.... :D

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Marketing Director,

That problem can easily be fixed. Just forward your wife's E-Mail address to me, and I send her the videos of your last visit.

Then you are free :D !


Giotto[/QUOTE]


Trust me... that does free up your time... he did it to me.... :(

Trav1234

Thanks for your generous offer. My size is XXXL. Looking forward to getting one. Will be in BKK on 16 Aug.

Am marketing a luggage scale. Best on the market. PM me on how to get one.

Will have some on display at LL if Dr. G lets me.

See u all soon.

Duni

PS Hope the dungeon is still in working order :D

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[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Marketing Director,
That problem can easily be fixed. Just forward your wife's E-Mail address to me, and I send her the videos of your last visit.
Then you are free :D !

Giotto[/QUOTE]

I QUIT you bestard :D

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I QUIT you bestard :D[/QUOTE]

Sorry not allowed....

I thought this was funny and hope you will also, especially Dr. G.

Slim

So what is the theme of the party at LL this Sat night?

[QUOTE=Pita123]So what is the theme of the party at LL this Sat night?[/QUOTE]Pita123,

What's about "Sisters and Rabbits" :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Pita123,

What's about "Sisters and Rabbits" :) ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Not the nun outfits again!

I always get so hot in the habit!

[QUOTE=Nvslim]I thought this was funny and hope you will also, especially Dr. G.

Slim[/QUOTE]Nvslim,

It is definitely funny. Especially because after I looked at the picture I now remember who you are :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Pita123]Not the nun outfits again!

I always get so hot in the habit![/QUOTE]Pita123,

not a problem, you can take over the hen's role ( or is it a cock :D ) this time :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Mr. Chairman

Glad to see you're back. Unfortunately my hands are tied this trip. The wife is following me everywhere so I am staying away from Sukhumvit area completely![/QUOTE]
Well that is extreme caution.
I have a GF problem too, same one you met. But I am not sure it will keep me completely away from Sukhumwit.
But certainly Soi 33 and Soi Cowboy is a bit too dangerous for me.
Anyway, I might catch you again, if you can be discrete? ;) Will arrive Bangkok in about 2 weeks or so.

Now I have a new problem. My very first GF in Thailand (nearly 18 years ago) just called. Unfortunately she had more than one Farang BF at the time ;) LOL That was probably the only problem we had, so she didn't come to my Country.

I couldn't recognise the voice, at first, as she was speaking English and couldn't speak English much when I met her and haven't seen her for at least 12 years, probably more.
She helped teach me colloquial street Thai and how to give superior DATY, as well. So good memories.

She has split from her American husband, returned from California to Thailand to manage the family rubber plantation, and keen to meet up again and travel together, she supplies the car. Claims her body is still good.

Danger! Trouble is brewing for sure. She would really like the Lodge, as she knows how to party! But is bored right now.

Says she wants to come to stay in Germany with me as well. Someone put the brakes on, please!

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Now I have a new problem. My very first GF in Thailand (nearly 18 years ago) just called. Unfortunately she had more than one Farang BF at the time ;) LOL That was probably the only problem we had, so she didn't come to my Country.

I couldn't recognise the voice, at first, as she was speaking English and couldn't speak English much when I met her and haven't seen her for at least 12 years, probably more.
She helped teach me colloquial street Thai and how to give superior DATY, as well. So good memories.

She has split from her American husband, returned from California to Thailand to manage the family rubber plantation, and keen to meet up again and travel together, she supplies the car. Claims her body is still good.

Danger! Trouble is brewing for sure. She would really like the Lodge, as she knows how to party! But is bored right now.

Says she wants to come to stay in Germany with me as well. Someone put the brakes on, please![/QUOTE]


OK now that's a problem. Can I ask how you have a number from 18 years ago? Was the cell phone even invented that long ago? :D And that is when I was still in school BTW :D

But shit I thought I was living on the edge keeping the same number for about 5 years and not really using a monger phone. Unfortunately I know you and some of us are too well known in certain areas so our numbers and activities can get reported to the wrong people.

However in your position I'd forget the brakes and accelerate. I'd go for a meeting and take a ride for old times sakes but then again I'm just a bastard wh@re.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Says she wants to come to stay in Germany with me as well. Someone put the brakes on, please![/QUOTE]

You need the brakes put on? No problemo mi amigo! She hasn't seen you in 18 years. Just tell her to be at LL tonight at 7PM and I'll be there claiming to be you. That should put a damper in the works.

[QUOTE=Pita123]You need the brakes put on? No problemo mi amigo! She hasn't seen you in 18 years. Just tell her to be at LL tonight at 7PM and I'll be there claiming to be you. That should put a damper in the works.[/QUOTE]

what a great wing man you are....

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]what a great wing man you are....[/QUOTE]
Anything to help a fellow flower fiend.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]OK now that's a problem. Can I ask how you have a number from 18 years ago? Was the cell phone even invented that long ago? :D And that is when I was still in school BTW :D
[/QUOTE]
Although I first met her 17-18 years ago,
I believe I must have stayed in occasional contact and must have met her again no more than 12 years ago, to have given her my Australian cell phone number, and yes its never changed, despite the danger of old aquaintances calling up.

Must have been shortly after that she went to live in California for a few years.

P.S. I used to use a mongerphone Thai number in Thailand. I don't give out my real phone number too easily.

Can anyone tell me what happen to tack? Is she back at the lodge? Or is she working somewhere else?

[QUOTE=Mick Ireland 1]Can anyone tell me what happen to tack? Is she back at the lodge? Or is she working somewhere else?[/QUOTE]Mick Ireland 1,

While it would be more amusing for me to read the responses and predictions of those who have no idea of her status (for reference see the last time you asked in February), I will respond to your question.

She left the bar in October of last year and has not worked since. In fact I understand she will soon marry a rich, handsome American. Mr. G can confirm this. No need to worry, there are plently of great girls in the Sports Bar! All the best,

Pete

Mr. G,

Does this qualify as a report? Would a retroactive discount be in order? Times are tough!

Pete

anyone been to vanilla sexy cafe & bar on soi 33. believe it's in peep inn. any report welcome

[QUOTE=Pete Moss]Mick Ireland 1,

While it would be more amusing for me to read the responses and predictions of those who have no idea of her status (for reference see the last time you asked in February), I will respond to your question.

She left the bar in October of last year and has not worked since. In fact I understand she will soon marry a rich, handsome American. Mr. G can confirm this. No need to worry, there are plently of great girls in the Sports Bar! All the best,

Pete

Mr. G,

Does this qualify as a report? Would a retroactive discount be in order? Times are tough!

Pete[/QUOTE]Yes Pete your right I did ask last February but six months can be a long time for a working thai girl.

[QUOTE=Pete Moss]...
Does this qualify as a report? Would a retroactive discount be in order? Times are tough!
...
[/QUOTE]Pete Moss,

Nope.

It qualifies for double room rates for the rest of your life :), you BESTARD!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Ireland 1]Yes Pete your right I did ask last February but six months can be a long time for a working thai girl.[/QUOTE]Mick Ireland 1,

She left Livingstone's last year in October, as mentioned. I saw her some weeks ago, and I smiled at her, again and again, and I thought: Now she will come back, for sure!!!

But - no! She does not want me any more :) !



Giotto

My best wishes to Auntie and all the moms' at Mr. G's place. God bless the Queen of Thailand.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]My best wishes to Auntie and all the moms' at Mr. G's place. God bless the Queen of Thailand.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much Traveler1234

The Auntie is deeply moved.

Just drinking my first coffee of the day, when I saw this ugly dwarf creeping up the staircase...not sure, but it looked like ...

Pipeman, are you here at Livingstone's :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Just drinking my first coffee of the day, when I saw this ugly dwarf creeping up the staircase...not sure, but it looked like ...

Pipeman, are you here at Livingstone's :) ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]Yes, after a sleepless overnight flight squeezed in between two big mamas on the plane, I arrived ugly and crumpled. But after a good beauty sleep today on the stretch-rack in the dungeon, I am now tall and handsum again. So Thailand - lock up your daughters!

But I nearly missed my flight to Bangkok until ...

[b][i]The Great Escape![/i][/b]

Just before my airport taxi was due last night, a very hormonal Wildcat decided she wouldn't let me go to Thailand without her after all (she is due to come here next week, but she suddenly changed her mind about me going alone). She shouted, cursed, and smashed a few plates and glasses in my general direction as I ducked and weaved with much-practiced skill. She tried to grab my passport from me, and screamed that she would follow me to the airport in her car and make a scene so the police would come and I would miss my flight. When my taxi arrived a few minutes later, she shouted there was no way she would let me get in the cab, and she ran downstairs to the cab to prevent me getting in.

Still upstairs, I thought for a moment "Hmmm, how will I deal this? I know - I'll escape!" [Play theme music to "The Great Escape", starring Piper McQueen]. I hid her car keys, grabbed my back-pack, snuck out the back door, jumped the back gate, sprinted to the main road, jumped into another cab and said "Airport - fast!". Meanwhile, Wildcat was still standing guard angrily at the first cab shouting at the poor driver, telling him to leave.

Soon after, I was sipping a relaxing Jack D at the airport bar while reading a barrage of SMSs from Wildcat telling me what a bastard I am. I couldn't really disagree with her, so I just replied "That's what [b][i]all[/i][/b] the girls say - love ya - see you in Thailand in a few days."

As she always says, "Haram" is my middle name. (She is Moslem, and "Haram" roughly translates to "sinful" i.e. a very bad person who will go to hell for his sins.)

Time now to be haram in the Bangkok harems. :cool:

hey Haram, you remember a couple of years ago, we tried to do some business with some of Wildcat's friends. Well it turns out she still has my email info. I wish you hadn't told her you were meeting me, she sent me a mail saying she was leaving on the same flight as you, following evening, and asked to meet me at the airport, so I could escort her into town to LL.

I can't refuse, she is a dear friend's wife.

So, get Snap, Crackle, and Pop out of your bed before noon today. That is when we arrive.
;)

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
I can't refuse, she is a dear friend's wife.
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

That's what I call "a real friend" :) !


Giotto

A little note. Haram is a sescription not a state. I think. Like What you eat etc. A person is not haram, but the actions can be. I think.

Well, as far as I know. Either way, their pussies taste nice too so who care if they're halal or haram ;)

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

That's what I call "a real friend" :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]

A real friend would assume that she wants to be taken to the LL branch in Hua Hin. How many hours of driving around asking people do you think it would take for her to realize there is no Hua Hin branch? It could buy Haram some time.

[QUOTE=Pita123]A real friend would assume that she wants to be taken to the LL branch in Hua Hin. How many hours of driving around asking people do you think it would take for her to realize there is no Hua Hin branch? It could buy Haram some time.[/QUOTE]Damn good idea Pita! She's still cranky with me today judging by the emails, and says she won't come to Thailand after all. Shucks.

But it wouldn't surprise me if she tried to surprise me with a surprise arrival. (Sorry, was that too many 'surprises' in one sentence?)

[QUOTE=Piper1]...
But it wouldn't surprise me if she tried to surprise me with a surprise arrival. (Sorry, was that too many 'surprises' in one sentence?)[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

I forgot to tell you that I will pick your wife up at the airport early tomorrow morning (2 am) and directly send her to your room :):):).


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Pipeman,

I forgot to tell you that I will pick your wife up at the airport early tomorrow morning (2 am) and directly send her to your room :):):).


Giotto[/QUOTE] Ok - I'll make sure my hottie for the night is out of my room by 1:59am. Thanks for the heads-up. Now [i]that's[/i] a real friend!

[QUOTE=Piper1]Damn good idea Pita! She's still cranky with me today judging by the emails, and says she won't come to Thailand after all. Shucks.

But it wouldn't surprise me if she tried to surprise me with a surprise arrival. (Sorry, was that too many 'surprises' in one sentence?)[/QUOTE]
I find your attitude quite surprising!

[QUOTE=Piper1]Ok - I'll make sure my hottie for the night is out of my room by 1:59am. Thanks for the heads-up. Now [i]that's[/i] a real friend![/QUOTE]
She'll be quite happy with plenty of time to hit Spicey for a nightcap.

[QUOTE=Piper1]Ok - I'll make sure my hottie for the night is out of my room by 1:59am. Thanks for the heads-up. Now [i]that's[/i] a real friend![/QUOTE]

Piper1: Take a hottie who doesn't wear undies, so she won't leave any behind!

There is an old say saying: God protects me from my friends as for the ennemies I take care of myself.
Looks the old says have a lot of real sense.

5.30 AM BKK.
just kicked my date out.

Whatever Piper might say, whatever photos he may have, it is all bullshit, and the pics are doctored. [b]I was NOT there[/b]

[QUOTE=1Ball]5.30 AM BKK.
just kicked my date out.

Whatever Piper might say, whatever photos he may have, it is all bullshit, and the pics are doctored. [b]I was NOT there[/b][/QUOTE]I have soooo many photos of you and your babe tonight (and you with my babe, mofo!!).

For a small fee, I will pass them to you.

I can finally retire with a good life. Aaah.

We stayed only 1 night in LL last saturday and thanks to Mr.Guido for hospitality. Everything was perfect.

Deluxe room and junior suite room are very good. Good place, nice and cold beer, sports bar with very good ladies (which we cannot try it cause of no time)

So, Guys dont search any hotel in BKK, just go to LL.

Thank you Mr.Guido.

3 guys from Turkey.

To those we have moved to other hotels last week:

You can now come back! The Bestards are all gone :) !!!

Pipeman moved on to Pattaya, so I would recommend not to go there for the next days or so.

The Vice President left in the morning, and Sir Duniawala checked out this afternoon.

The danger is over! They are definitely gone!!!


Giotto

Giotto, is that why you put up a [b]"CLOSED FOR RENOVATIONS "[/B] sign, the minute I checked in?

You should have seem your face when I told you my girl and I were running naked between my room (111), and Piper's room (118) at 4.30 AM. I thought you were going to swallow your cigarette. :D

[QUOTE=1Ball]Giotto, is that why you put up a [b]"CLOSED FOR RENOVATIONS "[/B] sign, the minute I checked in?

You should have seem your face when I told you my girl and I were running naked between my room (111), and Piper's room (118) at 4.30 AM. I thought you were going to swallow your cigarette. :D[/QUOTE]

He was just remembering that the security cameras had run out of film and he missed getting the goods on you as leverage for the future visits.

[QUOTE=Giotto]
You can now come back! The Bestards are all gone :) !!!
Giotto[/QUOTE]

Did I miss a Board meeting?

[QUOTE=1Ball]Giotto, is that why you put up a [b]"CLOSED FOR RENOVATIONS "[/B] sign, the minute I checked in?
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Sadly you realized it ... and I asked the staff to do it as descrete as possible.

Yes, we put up that sign, and immediately after you and Pipeman left we took it down again (Sir Duniawala is a Gentleman, no reason to keep that sign up).

After we then checked your rooms - we put it up again :( .


Giotto

[quote=giotto]after we then checked your rooms - we put it up again :( .[/quote]

better keep the sign up....

i resigned from work yesterday, still have my three week trip to bkk for my work that i resigned from as the trip can not be cancelled / non refundable so i'm still going.... (damn it's nice to own the travel agency that books this company's travel :d ) the work i was going to do there is already done but it's my signature that is needed on the contract. so the groveling from work and the thai side has already started.

i just ruined a three year deal. this deal took me to bkk often but was running out of some options so had to throw a monkey wrench into the plans.

might run to mnl during this trip as i just found a great bisexual there or bring her over to bkk, maybe take her to pattaya. she really raped one girl in front of me that i was dumbfounded just watching the action. i was so stunned i almost forgot to join. this girl told me she wants to eat her way through the bars in bkk (reminds me i gotta write that post in the mnl thread)

the tgf is begging me to come back to her after some fights and childish attitudes (like i'm more mature then she is hehehe), and some other girls are waiting in the wings....

the rabbit is back....... ready for the knives and ducks.... call me a biatch call me a bastard i don't care heard all the words before especially since yesterday.... gotta work the angles in life...

oh and i hear some other more prominent isgers might be around while i am there.... oh shit giotto... might be time for you to leave on holiday.....

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I resigned from work yesterday, still have my three week trip to BKK for my WORK that I resigned from as the trip can not be cancelled / non refundable so I'm still going.... [/QUOTE]

oh my GOD... you that is a protector of all that is good and holy... why the fuck did you let this happen????

The Rabbit KTV is jobless, coming to Bangkok and will be roaming the streets looking for pussies 14 times a day!
Well, the ladies certainly need the cash

I hope to see you soon, I'll bring some carrots :D

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]The Rabbit KTV is jobless, coming to Bangkok and will be roaming the streets looking for pussies 14 times a day!

I hope to see you soon, I'll bring some carrots :D[/QUOTE]

Yup for about three weeks :) :) I don't think God is listening to you.... Bombs, political take overs, Tsunami, Sars, Airport Closure, H1N1, now the Rabbit off his leash....

Shove your carrots bring some girls... if you remember what those are ;) Had a nice warm up in Makati recently... Might even import a filipina for a while.

[QUOTE=Giotto]To those we have moved to other hotels last week:

You can now come back! The Bestards are all gone :) !!!

Pipeman moved on to Pattaya, so I would recommend not to go there for the next days or so.

The Vice President left in the morning, and Sir Duniawala checked out this afternoon.

The danger is over! They are definitely gone!!!


Giotto[/QUOTE]I can proudly say that I actually was the reason why someone had to be moved from the Lodge to another hotel (seriously). To find out why, buy Giotto a few drinks, and he might rememember why. A few more drinks and he might even tell you the reason, with tears in his eyes. And I think poor ol' Guido has just about recovered from the drama.

Don't worry G and G - I'll be back in a couple of days with my entourage - I'll make it up to you! :cool:

As the discussion with the Pro over there clearly shows, the free stuff in the Lodge (frew Wifi, free coffee refills, free upgrades etc) clearly isn't enough to keep your customers happy. Especially if there is the risk to meet 1Ball naked on the floor, sit under Tansak's balcony (brrr... just imagine what that could imply) or have a room in the wooden floor next to Piper1.

So I ask: Are the 2 Gs even aware of this problem?

Well, now they are.

And what will they do about it (without recurring to Emy)??

[QUOTE=Centaurus]As the discussion with the Pro over there clearly shows, the free stuff in the Lodge (frew Wifi, free coffee refills, free upgrades etc) clearly isn't enough to keep your customers happy. Especially if there is the risk to meet 1Ball naked on the floor, .........[/QUOTE]
well, I don't know Centaurus, but last week, while you were sitting on the back of my motorcycle, was that a gun in your pocket, or were you just glad to see me?

;)

[QUOTE=1Ball]well, I don't know Centaurus, but last week, while you were sitting on the back of my motorcycle, was that a gun in your pocket, or were you just glad to see me?[/QUOTE]You noticed! Through all that padding!??

[QUOTE=Centaurus]As the discussion with the Pro over there clearly shows, the free stuff in the Lodge (frew Wifi, free coffee refills, free upgrades etc) clearly isn't enough to keep your customers happy. Especially if there is the risk to meet 1Ball naked on the floor, sit under Tansak's balcony (brrr... just imagine what that could imply) or have a room in the wooden floor next to Piper1.

So I ask: Are the 2 Gs even aware of this problem?

Well, now they are.

And what will they do about it (without recurring to Emy)??[/QUOTE]Centaurus,

We are well aware about this problems.

The immediate measures are:

- no free wifi any more
- no free coffee refills
- free room downgrades
- Mr. Ball was hired as naked security guard for the night shift
- The Rabbit moved to Bangkok and lives on his balcony now
- Pipeman started a new business in Bangkok, residing at the Lodge for the time being

And Emmy will for ever be your private "Mobile Service Center" :), if Auntie Guido doesn't take all of your time ... we know, he can be quite jealous.


Giotto

I was in LL about couple of weeks ago and had the pleasure of meeting 1Ball and Piper. Even though the meet was a short one, it was well evidenced that these two are professional mongering bestards. My hats off to them.

Centaurus, no need to be afraid of the free stuff. i am sure the naked 1Ball will take care of you in his room (or is that in the hallway?). And Pipers banging will keep your head nodding to the tune. Don't know about the rabbit though. :)

On a more serious side note, I got involved in a minor accident en route to the LL. I had stopped the taxi (on Suk) next to the 7-11, and just opened the door (curb side) when a motorcycle crashed into the door. Blood all over the door. The moto driver had smashed his right hand. Luckily for me the driver told me to sit tight inside and not to come outside. He than had the moto driver follow him as we turned the corner and into the Novotel. (I had mentioned Novotel as a landmark and he thought I was staying there) He was a little disappointed when we stopped at LL. ( guess he thought I was a big mark).

At the LL I called Auntie, explained the problem and the ever consummate Guido told me get inside and invited the taxi driver and the moto guy in to the hotel and offered them drinks. The receptionist, (bless her soul) negotiated on my behalf. Regardless that the moto cycle was at fault, I guess the farangs are always responsible. A settlement of 9K Baht (4.5 to taxi for a minor dent and the other to the moto guy) was deemed reasonable by effervescent AG. He said I got off cheap as I was able to get to the hotel and able to negotiate.

My sincere thanks to AG and the lady receptionist for helping a lost soul out.
Such is Thailand!!

[QUOTE=Duniawala]...My sincere thanks to AG and the lady receptionist for helping a lost soul out.
Such is Thailand!!...[/QUOTE]Such is life.

The ones from the "blessed" countries are always responsible for all idiots' mistakes.

It won't be long and I will have withdrawn all business from corrupt Thailand and luckily won't have to return there.
I get tired of having to save every loser's arse. Let them double their ridiculous prices to everyone else, I am out.

OTH paved my path. Kudos to him.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Such is life.

The ones from the "blessed" countries are always responsible for all idiots' mistakes.

It won't be long and I will have withdrawn all business from corrupt Thailand and luckily won't have to return there.
I get tired of having to save every loser's arse. Let them double their ridiculous prices to everyone else, I am out.

OTH paved my path. Kudos to him.[/QUOTE]
So, I guess that means............ welcome to Indonesia? The number 2 corrupt country in the world !!! :D

Duni, it was nice to meet you. I can see why you didn't want linger poolside with us tired hungover animals, since you had that nice looking lady next to you. Your story makes my blood boil. You opened the door [b]curbside[/b], and they still pushed you for money. I guess that was an expensive box of condoms at 7/11 ;)

[QUOTE=Duniawala]I was in LL about couple of weeks ago .....

On a more serious side note, I got involved in a minor accident en route to the LL. .....
My sincere thanks to AG and the lady receptionist for helping a lost soul out.
Such is Thailand!![/QUOTE]
Somebody was recently saying LL is too expensive. I think one has to bless an expensive hotel that takes care of its guests even if the accident has nothing to do with the establishment.
It is priceless ( I do not know about the tip, though, but I am sure we'll have tons of mails coming on that... to tip or not to tip?)

Bionicman,

I am sure Duni gave Auntie and Emmie a very "special" tip. :eek:

[QUOTE=Giotto]Centaurus,

We are well aware about this problems.

The immediate measures are:

- no free wifi any more
- no free coffee refills
- free room downgrades
- Mr. Ball was hired as naked security guard for the night shift
- The Rabbit moved to Bangkok and lives on his balcony now
- Pipeman started a new business in Bangkok, residing at the Lodge for the time being

And Emmy will for ever be your private "Mobile Service Center" :), if Auntie Guido doesn't take all of your time ... we know, he can be quite jealous.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Shit... how am I on the balcony of room 119???? I not even get a whirlpool anymore?

I take a few days off for sex and I find I'm kicked out to the balcony now.. Damn... that will teach me...

[QUOTE=1Ball]So, I guess that means............ welcome to Indonesia? The number 2 corrupt country in the world !!! :D...[/QUOTE]
Well, I am not yet sure about that. But I have to admit I am attracted by Indonesia, because in Thailand a smile comes from the front of her face, in Indonesia from the midle of her heart. At least more often than not.
At present I am quite ok in Hong Kong. You earn more, you pay more. But things ar more reasonable here.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]
On a more serious side note, I got involved in a minor accident en route to the LL. I had stopped the taxi (on Suk) next to the 7-11, and just opened the door (curb side) when a motorcycle crashed into the door. Blood all over the door. The moto driver had smashed his right hand. Luckily for me the driver told me to sit tight inside and not to come outside. He than had the moto driver follow him as we turned the corner and into the Novotel. (I had mentioned Novotel as a landmark and he thought I was staying there) He was a little disappointed when we stopped at LL. ( guess he thought I was a big mark).

At the LL I called Auntie, explained the problem and the ever consummate Guido told me get inside and invited the taxi driver and the moto guy in to the hotel and offered them drinks. The receptionist, (bless her soul) negotiated on my behalf. Regardless that the moto cycle was at fault, I guess the farangs are always responsible. A settlement of 9K Baht (4.5 to taxi for a minor dent and the other to the moto guy) was deemed reasonable by effervescent AG. He said I got off cheap as I was able to get to the hotel and able to negotiate.

My sincere thanks to AG and the lady receptionist for helping a lost soul out.
Such is Thailand!![/QUOTE]
I of course don't know anything in regards to the exact circumstances, level of damage/injury etc etc - but to me, since you had opened the curb-side door when the accident happened, it should be the moto guy who is at fault.

On the other hand, if the taxi driver had stopped his taxi very far away from the curb, AND you had told him where to be taken to/dropped off, then it is the taxi driver's fault for stopping in the middle of the road.

The only way I think that YOU would have been responsible would have been if it was you who just jumped out in the middle of the road without giving the taxi driver ample instructions etc

Anyway.... you stated ".....Regardless that the moto cycle was at fault, I guess the farangs are always responsible...." and THAT would have made it hard to accept if I were you. I mean THB 9K is still close to US$300 - and if you thought you were blameless for the series of events, I would have stood my ground and insisted that the police etc be called in. Thailand may be a bit less "organized" but you insist on calling the police, I would think that it would have made the "negotiations" more fruitful.

Just a thought and IMHO - and with due apologies for butting in.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Somebody was recently saying LL is too expensive. I think one has to bless an expensive hotel that takes care of its guests even if the accident has nothing to do with the establishment.
It is priceless ( I do not know about the tip, though, but I am sure we'll have tons of mails coming on that... to tip or not to tip?)[/QUOTE]

The thing that people do not understand, is if Auntie, the staff, Giotto, Mamasan, the waitresses, the front desk staff etc... know you, they take care you. It DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE STAYING THEIR OR NOT. These are good people, good staff, if anything they care too much about others and do not care enough about profit / loss statement (with the economy it is definitely in the loss column for a while now). It is the type of people they are. I posted in the BKK general thread a note to the Pro at LL so won't rehash those details.

If you KNOW the staff at LL, then you would not be surprised to see how Auntie and the staff handled this. This is what the people at LL do for you and THESE are the reasons people go to LL, post comments about them, etc...

It isn't ISG, it isn't the bar girls, it isn't Giotto, etc... it is the entire staff and how they treat people that gets people to go back. (don't get me wrong the girls don't hurt the establishment :D ) Some people hang around and experience this, some people do not.

I'll tell you that my hotel is not as friendly, warm, welcoming etc.. as LL is. I get a better reception at LL for dinner then I do at the hotel suite that I'm staying in for three weeks.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]
Anyway.... you stated ".....Regardless that the moto cycle was at fault, I guess the farangs are always responsible...." .
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
This is how I think the locals in Asia see it, SEAJ.

If you had not got on a plane, and flown all the way to...(insert SEA country of your choice), you would not be there. You would not be in that taxi, the taxi would not stop where it did, you would not open the door, and the moto driver would not hit you.

Therefore, you are 100% to blame. If you had stayed home, none of this would have taken place.

This is..(insert SEA country of your choice).

[QUOTE=1Ball]Therefore, you are 100% to blame. If you had stayed home, none of this would have taken place.[/QUOTE]

Not just foreigners, my TGF ran into a Taxi on a motor bike. The taxi driver tried to get her to pay for a dent that was way higher then her motor bike. Unfortunatley the taxi driver did not know she was a first class biatch when she get's mo ho so they ended up getting the cops involved. The cops ended up making the taxi driver pay a bribe to get my TGF to drop the issues and let him on his way.

It is a issue in many countries not just Thailand like this. But if you are different nationality then open pocket book as you have cash and they do not (if it is true or not it doesn't matter). And if police got involved in this it would cost a hell of a lot more then what it did. And to be fair, that was a low amount IMHO. And if Duni was a pale rider then it would have cost more most likely, again IMHO.

One thing is clear that being a brown farang (read Indian) probably cost me less than if I were a white one. That the moto driver was at fault was never in doubt. There was just enough space between the curb and the taxi to squeeze by. I had opened my door only a couple of inches. Also the fact that I was staying at LL and not the Novotel helped in my favor. (Sorry, Dr. G)

If I understand from past discussions on this and other boards, it would have been a bad thing for the police to be involved. Probably I would have had to pay extra for their courtesy call, no.

For some 9K baht would not be much, but it is for me. Think of all the bar fines I could have gotten. :)

At the end of this, I have mixed feelings. I was depressed not only for unexpected expenditure, but also the fact that the guy had his hand smashed because I did not look before I opened the door.

One thing is for sure. That guy is probably not going to drive between the curb and parked cars any more.

Got a question - what would have happened if Duniawalla just coolly left the taxi and moto drivers?

I mean, here they were at LL - (a bit of so called home advantage?) What if he just went ahead and checked in, bring his luggage up and slammed the door?

What could the drivers do/what would they dare do? It WAS a vehicle accident and all that Duniawalla was, was an "innocent" passenger.

I've witnessed several similar incidents in the past in Hong Kong, when a taxi pulls up next to a private car (most times, this is precisely what happens as HKG is so crowded and there's hardly any other place for a taxi to stop to allow the passenger to disembark), the passenger swings the door open and hit the private car.

The private car driver (who is usually still in the car waiting as he's actually parked illegally and is just waiting for his boss/wife/kids etc to come back) gets out screaming inspecting the dent on his car and the taxi driver just ignores the ruckus and the passenger who actually caused the damage just blithely walks off!! And the taxi driver would then also just drive off!!

Anyway, what would have happened if Duniawalla just walked off and washed his hands clean off the whole saga? Just a question

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]
Anyway, what would have happened if Duniawalla just walked off and washed his hands clean off the whole saga? Just a question[/QUOTE]

My guess is that then the boys in brown would have been called in and it would have cost more than the 9K.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]One thing is for sure. That guy is probably not going to drive between the curb and parked cars any more.[/QUOTE]
Don't count on it, Duni, they are not the sharpest knife on the drawer.

SEAJ, great question. Anyone? OTH ? Coma boy?

[QUOTE=1Ball]
SEAJ, great question. Anyone? OTH ? Coma boy?[/QUOTE]
OTH???!!! You gotta be kidding!! OTH??!!

Would be great if OTH WOULD come back!!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Got a question - what would have happened if Duniawalla just coolly left the taxi and moto drivers?.........

SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Good question. But in my case, I would stand out like a sore thumb in the land of skinnies.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Got a question - what would have happened if Duniawalla just coolly left the taxi and moto drivers?

I mean, here they were at LL - (a bit of so called home advantage?) What if he just went ahead and checked in, bring his luggage up and slammed the door?

......

Anyway, what would have happened if Duniawalla just walked off and washed his hands clean off the whole saga? Just a question

SEAJ[/QUOTE]

The "problem" is that the taxi driver is an HK local...dealing with another HK local (allegedly).
Here we have a case of a farang damaging a thai vehicle and injuring a thai person.
In many countries the foreigner is guilty by default, goes to jail for a week or so and then maybe is case is taken into consideration.
In the meantime he has joined and spent an amount of time in the local zero * hotel of the cities where no points are granted against a fidelity program.
The definition of "home advantage" is very personal.
At the best you can have - as it happened - the intermediation in local language of somebody who understands you are not a jerk or a trouble maker and tries at least to put things in the right perspective.
And that seems to me wha treally happened.
9k is a lot of money to compensate for the alleged damages, but now our friend has this a funny memory of an incident in BKK
He might not have the same vision of that matter today, should he ignored the matter and stepped into LL leaving all behind a slammed door.
Just my penny for the thoughts.
Most important is that he did not overtip neither the taxi driver nor the motorbike guy, otherwise we start to read another full thread on the need NOT TO TIP people victims of an accident, otherwise prices go up!
lol

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Good question. But in my case, I would stand out like a sore thumb in the land of skinnies.[/QUOTE]

Should have gone to Soi 3 not soi 33 and sneaked out and blended in the crowd :D

See Duni.. you mistake Soi Som for Soi Som Som :D

[QUOTE=Pita123]My guess is that then the boys in brown would have been called in and it would have cost more than the 9K.[/QUOTE]

I'm with you, my opinion of the BIB are that they are there to take shake downs not help you out. But for some reason they seem to shake down locals (thai and foreigners living here) more then foreign tourists. So the locals shake down the foreigners more openly so they can pay off the BIB :D But with the poor economy they might be extending their reach soon.

My bad experience in the past had cost me a good chunk of change to make the problem go away.

Giotto would know the answer here....

Is this the right thing to do? To meet with an ex “girlfriend” that I first met approx. 17 years ago and last saw probably 13 years ago. She is now aged 42. I am 53.
I already know, from meeting another ex from many years ago, that time spent up-Country causes girls to put on weight and get dark skin from sun exposure. So I was not expecting too much. As expected, her figure was no where near as before, considering I go for slim girls.
However we have had fun reminiscing about old times.
Miss N1 (1st Thai GF) taught me many things about Thailand, including Thai manners and behaviour, some Thai Language, and even how to give superior DATY.

She now says I am performing great in bed and can get her off several times, while years ago, I was less experienced and not a top sexual performer compared to two other boyfriends at the time, one of which she married and went to live with, in the USA. But he turned out to be a selfish arsehole in the end and N1 returned to live up-country in Thailand.

After 3 years back in Thailand (no man), she finally contacted me.

She now says, if I was as good in bed years ago, as what I am now, she would have selected me instead. Apparently I have improved with age in many respects. I Speak Thai well now, my manners have improved, acne mostly gone, etc. However was once skinny but not now.

Unfortunately she has gone downhill (not my spec anymore) although can now speak English. A bit chubby, dark face, no makeup, no fancy clothes, tobacco breath, etc. However still as good on the bed as many years ago.

She met another 42 year old friend Om here in Bangkok, who still looks very sexy and can pass for 25. Great set of bolt-ons too (better quality than most). Om probably has several Farang BFs and Giks. So now N1 is determined to lose weight, wear a hat for sun protection, give up smoking, grow hair longer again (got cut off after a motorcycle accident) etc. I have bought her a full quality makeup kit. So she can probably get back to a sexy look in a few months if she gives up drinking beer too much.

Not sure if I have done her a favour or not. She has been peacefully a farmer for 3 years but incredibly bored. She would like to start teaching English in her province. She doesn’t like Thai men but doesn’t want to start playing around. But I am not sure that she is what I would want. I still have another GF.
But I like to keep options open.