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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1183710]I'm sitting here trying to figure out what you two will talk about on the phone seeing that you don't speak Spanish and she doesn't speak English.[/QUOTE]Bingo, his posts are almost borderline "trollish" I mean you can't hand gesture or sign via telephone with a calling card.
Just checking on a possible run to the US and I am seeing NOTHING under $850 with the vast majority of airfares to NYC area at $1,000.00.
What did you guys do up there, break the airports or something? This is outragous. I just travelled 6 months ago for just under $600.00.
[QUOTE=Kukulkan; 1183565]Dial 01157300+ number.
My two Colombian CENTS.[/QUOTE]Exacto. There you go LatinLover, a concise, accurate answer for you for only two cents.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1183523]There is no way to say this nicely but I will try. You are totally wrong. Bello, Sabaneta, Envigado, MEDELLIN, Itagui, La Estrella and Caldas are all on the same level and are all municipalities that contain many comunas that contain many barrios.
So there is no difference. To say Envigado is a barrio, well you are two levels too low. If someone tells you they live in Envigado you can ask "which barrio?" and you could even say,"Oh, so you don't live in Medellin" and that is a correct statement. When you are at Frank's Place you had to leave the municipio of Medellin to get there. He is located in the "municipio de Itagui" it its "Comuna 4" in barrio "central Mayorista"
Bello has 10 comunas and those comunas have about 80 barrios.
Medellin has 16 comunas and about 250 barrios.
NO disrespect intended, just clearing it up.
Let's leave it at that and not even bother with corregimientos like Santa Elena.[/QUOTE]Can't imagine someone trying to convince us that the second largest city in the department, with its own mayor and separate local government, is really a part of Medellin. I mean come on, isn't it possible to state the freakin' obvious, (all at once)"I was wrong." Reminds me of when I was a kid from one of the episodes of the Fonzie from Happy Days struggling to say "I'm wrong". Freakin' hilarious, the fragile human psychic.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1183735]Just checking on a possible run to the US and I am seeing NOTHING under $850 with the vast majority of airfares to NYC area at $1, 000. 00.
What did you guys do up there, break the airports or something? This is outragous. I just travelled 6 months ago for just under $600. 00.[/QUOTE]Eddie, have you checked Spirit? I found flights from New York to Medellin in October for under $200. Each way. I figure at least another $100. For all of the extras. Might be an option. Spirit is a cheap bus, but it will get you from point A to point B.
Hi,
I've been reading the posts and they are very informative. But I was wondering, is Medellin safe enough for a lone gringo who doesn't know a lot of Spanish? I would try to blend in as much as I could and hit the casas in the day. Is this feasible? Will I get targeted and fucked with as soon as I open my mouth?
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1183735]Just checking on a possible run to the US and I am seeing NOTHING under $850 with the vast majority of airfares to NYC area at $1, 000. 00.
What did you guys do up there, break the airports or something? This is outragous. I just travelled 6 months ago for just under $600. 00.[/QUOTE]LE, I feel your pain. My Sept. MDE trip I used miles, and it only cost me $85 in fees, and taxes. Had I not the miles I would not have booked the trip.
Spot oil is down, and the planes are full. Lets not even talk about baggage fees, and paying for the better seats. These airlines are cleaning up.
Guys,
I need your help here. I contacted one independent escort to stay with me one week on a vacation that I booked. We agreed on the price, but she demanded half upfront. What if she splits on me after taking the money! What is the best way to go about doing this? Should I give her the half in advance? She told me to trust her, yeah right!
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1183735]Just checking on a possible run to the US and I am seeing NOTHING under $850 with the vast majority of airfares to NYC area at $1, 000. 00.
What did you guys do up there, break the airports or something? This is outragous. I just travelled 6 months ago for just under $600. 00.[/QUOTE]I am from the NYC area. Best to wait until right after labor day to fly anywhere. There is a few weeks of opportunity when things are pretty slow in the travel industry. Timing is everything.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1184247]I am from the NYC area. Best to wait until right after labor day to fly anywhere. There is a few weeks of opportunity when things are pretty slow in the travel industry. Timing is everything.[/QUOTE]Very true. Wait after Labor Day or after kiddies go back to school signaling their vacation is over. I usually check airfares online on either Tuesday or Wednesday for bargain. I read an article somewhere on Yahoo recommending air travellers looking for bargain to do so.
Good days gents.
EZ
[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1183895]Eddie, have you checked Spirit? I found flights from New York to Medellin in October for under $200. Each way. I figure at least another $100. For all of the extras. Might be an option. Spirit is a cheap bus, but it will get you from point A to point B.[/QUOTE]Spirit's website is tough, have to book each leg separately. That being said they do have deals every now and then. Just not now in the summer.
Guys the prices I was quoting (Alll over $1000 in the previous post) [B]are for August[/B]. These next few weeks.
BUT.
MDE-NYC (all 3 airports)
Sept 24th. Oct 08th. Note some of these flights are over night 14+ hours with layover etc.
$700 Spirit (fees not yet added to 1 checked and 1 carryon) will be $800.
$800 LACSA / AVIANCA.
$800 LACSA.
$825 Avianca.
$830 American
$830 COPA
$1069 TACA.
$1395 Air Canada
Looks like just north of $800 is the price right now for after Labor Day.
So for now I guess I am stuck down here in PussyHeaven and I wil have to put my trip up to PussyPrison on hold. I hope all the uptight gringas don't mind.
I travel a good deal. This is going to add $2, 500 out of pocket this fiscal year for me (Sept).
[QUOTE=Viajero; 1184218]Guys,
I need your help here. I contacted one independent escort to stay with me one week on a vacation that I booked. We agreed on the price, but she demanded half upfront. What if she splits on me after taking the money! What is the best way to go about doing this? Should I give her the half in advance? She told me to trust her, yeah right![/QUOTE]Don't be fooled by them. Don't pay in advance. If she still insists. Divide by days and pay it day by day. That is only answer that I can give.
[QUOTE=Viajero; 1184218]Guys,
I need your help here. I contacted one independent escort to stay with me one week on a vacation that I booked. We agreed on the price, but she demanded half upfront. What if she splits on me after taking the money! What is the best way to go about doing this? Should I give her the half in advance? She told me to trust her, yeah right![/QUOTE]I answered in the MDE thread, but I'll try here too since you seem committed. Unless you know this girl well, under no circumstances should you pay her for half a week up front. MAYBE, pay her for ONE day and see how it goes, by then, hopefully she will have enough trust in you (do you deserve it?) to wait for the rest until the end of the week. I'm not hard hearted, just experienced.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1184180]LE, I feel your pain. My Sept. MDE trip I used miles, and it only cost me $85 in fees, and taxes. Had I not the miles I would not have booked the trip.
Spot oil is down, and the planes are full. Lets not even talk about baggage fees, and paying for the better seats. These airlines are cleaning up.[/QUOTE]I used my miles in spirit also. But, only could use it for one way had to pay full for the other leg. Total was about $400. Not toooo bad for Sept.
[QUOTE=Errol Flynn;1184470]I answered in the MDE thread, but I'll try here too since you seem committed. Unless you know this girl well, under no circumstances should you pay her for half a week up front. MAYBE, pay her for ONE day and see how it goes, by then, hopefully she will have enough trust in you (do you deserve it?) to wait for the rest until the end of the week. I'm not hard hearted, just experienced.[/QUOTE]Thank you kindly and all of those who commented. I do appreciate it sincerely. This question was double posted by mistake on both Medellin and General info. Since this happening in Medellin, it should be moved to Medellin where there are more opinions on this matter.
[QUOTE=Lord13; 1184105]Hi,
I've been reading the posts and they are very informative. But I was wondering, is Medellin safe enough for a lone gringo who doesn't know a lot of Spanish? I would try to blend in as much as I could and hit the casas in the day. Is this feasible? Will I get targeted and fucked with as soon as I open my mouth?[/QUOTE]You will be fine. I recommend you stay in Casa Blanca 1 or Casa Blanca 2 (CB1 or CB2). These two hotels are for MDE newbies, full of gringos. Read the other thread named 'Casa Blanca Medellin' if you have not done so for more info, and also other threads too for where to go and where not to go at night and other tips on safety.
Good lucks.
EZ
I had some fun times in Help in Rio. What I liked about it was that there was pros and non pros there and even the girls had to pay to get in which seem to make them more motivated. On a side note, I have been to Medellin and had fun but found nothing similar to HELP disco. I hit Lleras and some casas, and strip clubs and agencies. But nothing still compares to HELP. So please can anyone HELP a bro out?
[QUOTE=Up and Cummer;1184855]I had some fun times in Help in Rio. What I liked about it was that there was pros and non pros there and even the girls had to pay to get in which seem to make them more motivated. On a side note, I have been to Medellin and had fun but found nothing similar to HELP disco. I hit Lleras and some casas, and strip clubs and agencies. But nothing still compares to HELP. So please can anyone HELP a bro out?[/QUOTE]Go to LDV in CTG.
Better yet go to Tequilla Rocks in Lima or Classico in Sosua or the Del Ray in Costa Rica.
Forget MDE.
Your comment { the girls had to pay to get in which seem to make them more motivated. }
These girls have babys to feed. That is all the motivation they need.
BTW fellow board memembers, I promise this is the last time I answer a Help in Rio question.
[QUOTE=Up and Cummer;1184855]I had some fun times in Help in Rio. What I liked about it was that there was pros and non pros there and even the girls had to pay to get in which seem to make them more motivated. On a side note, I have been to Medellin and had fun but found nothing similar to HELP disco. I hit Lleras and some casas, and strip clubs and agencies. But nothing still compares to HELP. So please can anyone HELP a bro out?[/QUOTE]Why does everyone keep trying to relive Help? It's OVER! LDV in Cartagena does not compare. When I was there it was just like a small bar with a parquet floor where nobody was dancing. Classico in Sosua is pretty much the same as LDV but with more people and they are actually dancing. Tequila Rocks in Lima does not compare. That is more so a clip joint for rookies. The closest place to it in the Western Hemisphere would be Love Story in Sao Paulo. But if you insist on a place like Help, you need to come over to Thailand. We have several places just like it in Pattaya. (Bangkok has a couple as well although more expensive.) Lucifer, Mixx, Candy Shop, Insomnia, Tony's, Marine Disco, etc. Each one plays a different type of music and Lucifer, Candy Shop, and Marine Disco have live bands as well. What all of them have in common is that they are filled with girls who will go with you for money and sometimes free. And neither of them is a small venue (well Candy Shop is pretty small). The picture is inside Lucifer.
Thanks for everyones contribution regarding my question about SA chicks. Grateful for the help. Appreciate it. (Especially SlamCity7777). Now to my recent concern; Brazil was my number One choice initially, then I considered Argentina + Colombia my main targets. Up until now. Because recently I found out that travelling to Rio de Janiero will cost somewhat 300 euros (ca 420 dollars) less than flying to BA or Bogota. So even if Colombia and Argentina are cheaper to live in, a visit to Brazil may cost equal when all costs are summed up. To those with experience; am I right about this assumption or way too optimistic (about the costs living in Rio)?
If I travel to South America my main (only) targets are these:
1) Girls, girls, girls. The easier access the better.
2) Hang out at beaches. Which of course requires sunny weather, hot temperatures and sun screen (and bikini chicks)
I predict that in Rio I will have all that in one place whereas in BA and Colombia I have to travel up and down to get my fill. Right?
[QUOTE=Omeprazol; 1185254]Thanks for everyones contribution regarding my question about SA chicks. Grateful for the help. Appreciate it. (Especially SlamCity7777). Now to my recent concern; Brazil was my number One choice initially, then I considered Argentina + Colombia my main targets. Up until now. Because recently I found out that travelling to Rio de Janiero will cost somewhat 300 euros (ca 420 dollars) less than flying to BA or Bogota. So even if Colombia and Argentina are cheaper to live in, a visit to Brazil may cost equal when all costs are summed up. To those with experience; am I right about this assumption or way too optimistic (about the costs living in Rio)?
If I travel to South America my main (only) targets are these:
1) Girls, girls, girls. The easier access the better.
2) Hang out at beaches. Which of course requires sunny weather, hot temperatures and sun screen (and bikini chicks)
I predict that in Rio I will have all that in one place whereas in BA and Colombia I have to travel up and down to get my fill. Right?[/QUOTE]Hey You are very welcome, Do you mean that we chatted before one on one or that you have enjoyed my posts about Argentina vs Colombia? If you go to Brazil (sorry no intel on Brazil) Arg is a short flight away! Beach you have to give that to Brazil; they just have more coast line and the world famous Brazilian Bikini! Access? From what I've been reading Brazil has certain elements that are missing from Arg. & Col. Have fun and post back about your trip.
You mind if I hit you up for infor about Prauge / Czech Rep?
I dnt knw why, my stomach gets sick every time I come to Colombia. Is it because I eat mainly fish? Some of the fish in Medellin maybe frozen and kept for a long time, I believe. I avoid street vendors' food and fruits, and only drink bottled water though. I apprecite any suggestion.
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1185352]I dnt knw why, my stomach gets sick every time I come to Colombia. Is it because I eat mainly fish? Some of the fish in Medellin maybe frozen and kept for a long time, I believe. I avoid street vendors' food and fruits, and only drink bottled water though. I apprecite any suggestion.[/QUOTE]Matt, eating pussy that smells and taste like fish will do that. But, once you get passed the smell, you've got it licked. Seriously, sorry you're having stomach problems. Being from Texas, I wouldn't eat Bar-B-Que in New York. Only fish near the sea where it slept the night before. Colombian food is not all that great, in my opinion, but that's a different thread. Hope you are feeling better and wish you only.
Good energy
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1185352]I dnt knw why, my stomach gets sick every time I come to Colombia. Is it because I eat mainly fish? Some of the fish in Medellin maybe frozen and kept for a long time, I believe. I avoid street vendors' food and fruits, and only drink bottled water though. I apprecite any suggestion.[/QUOTE]If you only eat fish you should maybe switch to canned. That fish even in EXITO or Pomona does NOT look fresh. Look at the eyes. The eyes always tell. I wouldn't eat the frozen fish. They probably just freeze the OLD fish. Who knows? Unless you eat the fresh water fish like Tilapia or Cachama, everything must be bought in from the coast. I don't know where the fish market is located in Medellin. They must have one and it must be in el centro somewhere. Ive never been so cant help you there.
Keep your diet Plain and simple. Starches = Pasta, Potatoes, Rice. That will serve as both a binder for your stomach and fill you up at the same time. Nothing foreign there to process. Take some extra strength PEPTO with you and some IMODIUM. Do you eat GREENS and wash them with tap water?
My paisa friends always tell me that the tap water in Medellin is the "best" in Colombia and you can drink it right from the tap. Fuck That. I'd rather pay 2mil and buy a gallon of BRISA then to fuck up my whole vacation. Better be safe than sorry. I always get some kind of squirts in the Caribbean but never in South America "knock on wood" LOL
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1185325]Hey You are very welcome, Do you mean that we chatted before one on one or that you have enjoyed my posts about Argentina vs Colombia? If you go to Brazil (sorry no intel on Brazil) Arg is a short flight away! Beach you have to give that to Brazil; they just have more coast line and the world famous Brazilian Bikini! Access? From what I've been reading Brazil has certain elements that are missing from Arg. & Col. Have fun and post back about your trip.
You mind if I hit you up for infor about Prauge / Czech Rep?[/QUOTE]I enjoyed your posts. We have never chatted one on one. My trip, if I go, will be in December or January. Sure, I will try and help you out with Prague. Do you have any specific questions? I know the guys at the Prague thread are quite good and certainely hold way more knowledge about this place than me.
Oh, LT. Please feel my pain as a fellow Buddhist. I was naive about the quality of fish in Med. Similar to you, I do not have a stellar opinion about food in Co. In general. Merci.
[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1185354]Matt, eating pussy that smells and taste like fish will do that. But, once you get passed the smell, you've got it licked. Seriously, sorry you're having stomach problems. Being from Texas, I wouldn't eat Bar-B-Que in New York. Only fish near the sea where it slept the night before. Colombian food is not all that great, in my opinion, but that's a different thread. Hope you are feeling better and wish you only.
Good energy[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1185373]Oh, LT. Please feel my pain as a fellow Buddhist. I was naive about the quality of fish in Med. Similar to you, I do not have a stellar opinion about food in Co. In general. Merci.[/QUOTE]I concur. In Bogota and Medellin stick with locally caught fish that's really actually fresh. Don't eat ocean fish or seafood there. Van Camps makes an excellent canned tuna as well.
In Bogota all seafood is frozen by law, which just ruins it for me.
Tap water in Bogota and Medellin is fine. I've never NOT had problems every time I was in the DR, despite not drinking the water. Here in Bogota I drink the shower water every day and drink tap water all day long, never the slightest problem. I did the same in Medellin too. The water is not your worry here. Colombia is better off for potable water than the USA. As a general rule, the hotter the climate the more you have to worry about the water supply, although I also drank Cartagena tap water with no grief. Cartagena water is heavily chlorinated though.
Sorry for being uneducated, but is Robalo fresh water fish? I also assume that Bagre, catfish, is fresh water fish too. So Can I assume that, Tilapia, Robalo, and bagre are relatively safe? I like, and therefore frequently ate, cazuela de Mariscos, which includes shrimps, squids, and other unknown fish. Thanks for the great info, esepecially fish eyes. Probably you examine chicas' eyes with the same sharpness as well. [QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1185358]If you only eat fish you should maybe switch to canned. That fish even in EXITO or Pomona does NOT look fresh. Look at the eyes. The eyes always tell. I wouldn't eat the frozen fish. They probably just freeze the OLD fish. Who knows? Unless you eat the fresh water fish like Tilapia or Cachama, everything must be bought in from the coast. I don't know where the fish market is located in Medellin. They must have one and it must be in el centro somewhere. I've never been so can't help you there.
Keep your diet Plain and simple. Starches = Pasta, Potatoes, Rice. That will serve as both a binder for your stomach and fill you up at the same time. Nothing foreign there to process. Take some extra strength PEPTO with you and some IMODIUM. Do you eat GREENS and wash them with tap water?
My paisa friends always tell me that the tap water in Medellin is the "best" in Colombia and you can drink it right from the tap. Fuck That. I'd rather pay 2mil and buy a gallon of BRISA then to fuck up my whole vacation. Better be safe than sorry. I always get some kind of squirts in the Caribbean but never in South America "knock on wood" LOL[/QUOTE]
They are all from the sea, but some of them can be grown in fish farms in land. If you are getting sick from the seafood, remember that many of the species you mentioned, especially the sea catfish are bottom feeders. So, only thoroughly cooking the fish will kill the more annoying stomach ailments when it comes to fish ingesting certain poisons and what have you at the bottom or at the end of an unprocessed sewer line; however freezing and extreme heat do the trick 99. 9% of the time. In order to be safe, make sure that you see the food literally "Smoking" from the kitchen if you are eating out. Make sure you tell them that you like your food really, really hot. Be safe.
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1185403]Sorry for being uneducated, but is Robalo fresh water fish? I also assume that Bagre, catfish, is fresh water fish too. So Can I assume that, Tilapia, Robalo, and bagre are relatively safe? I like, and therefore frequently ate, cazuela de Mariscos, which includes shrimps, squids, and other unknown fish. Thanks for the great info, esepecially fish eyes. Probably you examine chicas' eyes with the same sharpness as well.[/QUOTE]
Most of the trout and tilapia here are from farms, as is the salmon, although national salmon is still a small industry. Generally salmon here comes from Chile.
[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1184782]You will be fine. I recommend you stay in Casa Blanca 1 or Casa Blanca 2 (CB1 or CB2). These two hotels are for MDE newbies, full of gringos. Read the other thread named 'Casa Blanca Medellin' if you have not done so for more info, and also other threads too for where to go and where not to go at night and other tips on safety.
Good luck,
EZ[/QUOTE]Looks nice, but a little pricey for me. By the way, is it difficult to get Viagra in Medellin?
Does anybody have any information on getting Colombia student visa for long-term stay (by studying Spanish)?
I thought there was a public university (not a "private language school") in Bogota which did this but I cannot find it now.
I would be very interested to hear other's experiences.
anyone know a link, or off the top of their heads, what the limits are for bringinig in booze and cigars? if i go over the limit what approximately are the charges / taxes? do they confirep001e the 4th bottle on a a hypothetical 3 bottle limit? or do i have the option to pay? do i need to have receipts for the booze and smokes? thanks!
So I'm heading to Medellin soon and have heard of some ISG members having success arranging get-togethers from the popular dating sights. My hope is that even the pros on these sites have a bit less mileage than the girls in the clubs and casas. Am I wrong?
I noticed many of the girls put up profiles on all of these sites since it is free to do so but it seems like as of late, Colombian Cupid sees the most activity with the Medellin girls.
Before I start my Colombian Singles Dating Quest, I'm just wondering if anybody has extremely positive or negative experiences, recommendations, how to tell if she's a non pro, what to say to keep prices at a minimum or pointers for weeding out the flakes. For example, it has been suggested, profiles that list having children who live at home will probably create limits on your dates availability and make sleep overs impossible. Also, Colombian Cupid and Latin American Cupid look exactly the same besides the name. I wonder if you get access to both. I suppose I could find that out myself but I hope to get a little dialog on this topic started.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1186309]So I'm heading to Medellin soon and have heard of some ISG members having success arranging get-togethers from the popular dating sights. My hope is that even the pros on these sites have a bit less mileage than the girls in the clubs and casas. Am I wrong?
I noticed many of the girls put up profiles on all of these sites since it is free to do so but it seems like as of late, Colombian Cupid sees the most activity with the Medellin girls.
Before I start my Colombian Singles Dating Quest, I'm just wondering if anybody has extremely positive or negative experiences, recommendations, how to tell if she's a non pro, what to say to keep prices at a minimum or pointers for weeding out the flakes. For example, it has been suggested, profiles that list having children who live at home will probably create limits on your dates availability and make sleep overs impossible. Also, Colombian Cupid and Latin American Cupid look exactly the same besides the name. I wonder if you get access to both. I suppose I could find that out myself but I hope to get a little dialog on this topic started.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I am in the same position. I am 3 weeks away from arrival. I signed up with Colombian Cupid with the platinum membership. I followed all of the profile making guidelines but I am getting very little activity, positive or negative. I am not sure what I am missing but I am not getting hardly any action.
However, with just a standard profile on Romance Latina I am getting many more hits.
[QUOTE=EstebanH;1186315]However, with just a standard profile on Romance Latina I am getting many more hits.[/QUOTE]I personally like RL. It is the only site I used. Have not tried the other. I got more than 4 or 5 contacts before every trip to Medellin from RL. Not all contacts work out. Some have this and that reason not to meet you or delay the meeting. IMHO, about 90% of the women on RL are pros and semi-pros even though when you chat with them online you might think she is a regular girl. Once you take them to bed, MOST of them, and I stress MOST based on my experience, will ask for 'plasticas' before or after. I think they assume gringos or any foreigners have to pay for sex in Colombia. It is a sad fact but in reality, that's what we (as gringos) face.
Good days gents.
EZ
[quote=hasideas tao;1186309]also, colombian cupid and latin american cupid look exactly the same besides the name. i wonder if you get access to both.[/quote]not unless you buy a membership for each site.
[quote=sailor jim;1186297]do they confirep001e the 4th bottle on a a hypothetical 3 bottle limit? or do i have the option to pay? do i need to have receipts for the booze and smokes? thanks![/quote]i have brought 4 bottles before, but in a duty free bag. i think you over thinking things they don't give a fuck, they want your tourist money and for you to come back.
[quote=lord13;1185491]by the way, is it difficult to get viagra in medellin?[/quote]no, any pharmacy has it over the counter but it is called sidenafil in generic form regular viagra is too expensive there.
[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1186315]I am in the same position. I am 3 weeks away from arrival. I signed up with Colombian Cupid with the platinum membership. I followed all of the profile making guidelines but I am getting very little activity, positive or negative. I am not sure what I am missing but I am not getting hardly any action.
However, with just a standard profile on Romance Latina I am getting many more hits.[/QUOTE]The way I see it is that RL is 90% Pros or chicas looking to gas the gringo for a fun night rumbando. So, your going to get a lot more hits. The other sites have a lot of legit (non pros). So, they know a gringo coming to Medellin only for the week or two doesn't want a relation. I have tried RL, badoo, and Colombian Cupid. With RL got many numbers of pros (which were expensive) and with badoo got few numbers of local girls. The local girls I had to wine and dine and in some cases didn't get to seal the deal. I will be going to Medellin on the 12th of Sept and I still have numbers to a few local girls (2 of them from badoo). I usully get the numbers of the girls from the casas. So, I will rotate my time with the pros and nonpros.
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1186309]Before I start my Colombian Singles Dating Quest, I'm just wondering if anybody has extremely positive or negative experiences, recommendations, how to tell if she's a non pro, what to say to keep prices at a minimum or pointers for weeding out the flakes.[/QUOTE]You really need to state what you're looking for. A long term relationshoiip? A wife? Someone to bring back to your home country? You mention keeping prices low so I am guessing you are looking for low mileage putas?
Bad News. The internet is the worst place to find all of the above.
Low milage putas charge a lot more. Especially ones on the internet. With Internet girls in general there is a very high flake rate due to the fact of sheer numbers of guys contacting them. And if they have been on the internet for some time they already have several options of higher paying clients. They weed out the crap from their rolodex. Just like we do. Last minute cancels when Daddy Warbucks calls is commonplace. The problem is there are many fake girl profiles and fake guy profiles which is why CC and LAC are now "verifying" where the member send in Passport and Driver Lic and info for photo and age and loacation verfification.
Which hurts the real girls. However far and few they are on these internet sites. So this means old slobby grandpas go to CC with pictures of younger blond haired studs as thier profile photos, chatting with the girl on the site promising the world to the her meanwhile the girl doesn't even answer your invite to chat (your average photo). The slobby grandpa is jerking off to the girls photos and his conversation with her. You get snubbed and in the long run the girl quits the site because all she is doing is talking in chat to these hot guys who say they are arriving in a week and never do.
If you are trying to go sooper dooper totally non pro girlfriend rout sealing the deal in a short time may not be as easy as it sounds.
Internet in short: Putas are flakey and charge more. Real girls are far and few and are monopolized by super studs. Real or not.
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1186309]Before I start my Colombian Singles Dating Quest, I'm just wondering if anybody has extremely positive or negative experiences, recommendations, how to tell if she's a non pro, what to say to keep prices at a minimum or pointers for weeding out the flakes. For example, it has been suggested, profiles that list having children who live at home will probably create limits on your dates availability and make sleep overs impossible. Also, Colombian Cupid and Latin American Cupid look exactly the same besides the name. I wonder if you get access to both. I suppose I could find that out myself but I hope to get a little dialog on this topic started.
Thanks[/QUOTE]You need to figure out yourself. Experience of others won't necessary help. As a matter of fact a lot of pros or semi-pros use these dating sites too. Concerning milelage what do you expect in a country where the age of consent is 14 (!) and consequently some 16 year old girls have already a child (However please note that the age requirement for P2P is 18). Taking into account the variety of girls advertising on dating sites, including faked profiles and pros, my recommendation is to arrange for dates with a number of girls before travelling to Medellin in your case. I do not want to generalize, but as elsewhere in the world Colombian girls know that the easiest way to catch a man is to have sex with him. Thus children that live with the greater family do not necessarely prevent to girl spending the night with you. A "good" girl will probably introduce you to her family quite quickly. But be aware that once you are caught and considered to be part of the family it may be expected that you support them here and there, they call it "colaborar" which simply means you are supposed to pay for let's say the university education. As "novio" you may spend more for having fun with one girl only than you would spend having fun with a lot of working girls during the same period.
[QUOTE=TuDueno;1186475]You need to figure out yourself. Experience of others won't necessary help. As a matter of fact a lot of pros or semi-pros use these dating sites too. Concerning milelage what do you expect in a country where the age of consent is 14 (!) and consequently some 16 year old girls have already a child (However please note that the age requirement for P2P is 18). Taking into account the variety of girls advertising on dating sites, including faked profiles and pros, my recommendation is to arrange for dates with a number of girls before travelling to Medellin in your case. I do not want to generalize, but as elsewhere in the world Colombian girls know that the easiest way to catch a man is to have sex with him. Thus children that live with the greater family do not necessarely prevent to girl spending the night with you. A "good" girl will probably introduce you to her family quite quickly. But be aware that once you are caught and considered to be part of the family it may be expected that you support them here and there, they call it "colaborar" which simply means you are supposed to pay for let's say the university education. As "novio" you may spend more for having fun with one girl only than you would spend having fun with a lot of working girls during the same period.[/QUOTE]Estoy de acuerdo with TuDueno. One of the problems with a Machista Society as Colombia is that the man always pays, like it or not. The man takes the lead in every sense, none of this going dutch nonsense like in the US. You can pull a Top Shelf Breezy, your the gringo with the blue passport with an eagle on the front, international minded, world traveler, dollars on your forehead etc. U can have beautiful children, hottest wife on the block, etc. If it goes to that level, better be paid in full or get inevitably played.
[quote=tudueno;1186475]you need to figure out yourself. experience of others won't necessary help. as a matter of fact a lot of pros or semi-pros use these dating sites too. concerning milelage what do you expect in a country where the age of consent is 14 (!) and consequently some 16 year old girls have already a child (however please note that the age requirement for p2p is 18). taking into account the variety of girls advertising on dating sites, including faked profiles and pros, my recommendation is to arrange for dates with a number of girls before travelling to medellin in your case. i do not want to generalize, but as elsewhere in the world colombian girls know that the easiest way to catch a man is to have sex with him. thus children that live with the greater family do not necessarely prevent to girl spending the night with you. a "good" girl will probably introduce you to her family quite quickly. but be aware that once you are caught and considered to be part of the family it may be expected that you support them here and there, they call it "colaborar" which simply means you are supposed to pay for let's say the university education. as "novio" you may spend more for having fun with one girl only than you would spend having fun with a lot of working girls during the same period.[/quote]you say you may spend more on a novia than a pro. i say you will spend much more and that is a fact. i have stayed with novias from time to time, and it was always the fridge broke down or the washing machine or if she has a car that needs work. as far as the washing machine, and the fridge, when it happened to me, i was never asked to replace or fix them. i just saw how she had to use them and it was to me a thing that needed to be done. now if you are lucky to aviod those pitfalls then going out to eat is now double for you. now i'm sure she is a good cook. seems they all know how to cook. notice how you are buying steak, and fish in the supermarket. wow those grapes from chile look good. all the rest of the family loves this better food than the usual beans and rice. so you like her to have sexy night clothes for you to enjoy. just so happens while you are shopping for those items she sees a pair of jeans she likes. oh yeah while shopping with her, don't let her catch you looking or talking to that cute salesgirl who is wishing you were spending that money on her not your novia. then things for her kids, and medicine. of course going to the discos is another expense. almost forgot all the phone calls you make to her when you are home. god forbid you miss a day without calling her.
all in all, those sweet besos do seem to make it all worthwhile. of course i'm sure some of you brad pitt guys will let us know how they pay almost nothing to have one of these sweet girls. good for you. me i live in the real world.
This is a very popular topic here as of late and I would like to add my two cents. STOP!
This community is hers so we can talk about where to find sexy-young-women who SCREW for money and if we're lucky provide good service for a reasonable price. We DO NOT care if you want to date non-pros or semi pros. I'm lucky enough to have a cool Colombina novia down there; do all of you want to know about how she hates her boss at the hairsalon? NO you don't because this is a community or posting about screwing professional working girls not the "I want to have a relationship with non pros"
News Flash to all the "Young-Yoked-Studs" out there looking to got to COL on a week long trip to pick up non pros; It ain't going to to happen! The deck is stacked against you in alot of waya but the biggest is that there is a established middle class in Colombia (or more well off / more stable) vs say the DR or Costa Rica where 85-90% of the population is poor so you're ECONOMIC GAME is negated. For most of you Fat-Bald-Cheap-Gringos (FBCG is the term I'll be using from now on in all my posts) out there this was your only shot and that's gone! Think about it; If she's a non pro or even semi pro there is a reason for this, her family is not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor! She does not need to sell off her pussy to you for rent and or bills! If she's not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor then why would she want to spend time with you? In the other countries a girl might want to only be treated to a nice meal, movie, little gift, and some attention from a guy other than Hector or Javier who maker her pay for the one soda and hot dog they share sitting on a street corner. Believe it or not there are guys in Colombia who can take a girl out to a normal date and THEY do speak the language perfectly, they do live there so they can put the time in, and they don't make the girl feel like a total working girl!
Por ejempleo: I was at some mall having lunch with my novia and a few table over there was this FBCG with a very pretty chick in her mid 20's maybe early 30's. From what I could hear it was a first date (year of being a bartender and waiter I can spot a first date a mile away) This clown goes ". We can live in a nice big house. Blah blah blah" and the goes ". I already live in a nice house." and he looks all stupid and what not and all he has to say back to her was ". No I mean like an even BIGGER house!" All this FBCG had to say or offer this girl, his only bait was that he had money, when she didn't need or come off as needing his money he had no other bullets in his gun. I dated a semi-pro for a few months. Friend of a Friends.
If you're NOT hooking up in the states what makes you think you're going to score in Colombia? You're still you no matter where you're at and if you have NO GAME then you have NO GAME! If you're asking questions like "where is a good place to meet non-working girls, how can I tell if she's a part-time-working girl. Ect" then chance are you Sir have no game! Look in the mirror and you know it to be true. Admitting the problem is the first step in addressing the problem.
See below for a list of things you will need if you do want to date non pros in Colombia and pretty much the entire world including the states, use this as a road map / laundry list for all the NEWBIES so ya'll can STOP asking the same 10 questions over and over and over. Oh and use the search function, it's there for a reason.
No Specific Order:
1) Reasonably Handsome: Good looking dude pull fine ass bitches. Simple truth. If you are Tall, Dark, and Handsome then stop reading this list. Handsome trumps all else. If you're a good looking dude pussy will find you! If you're not handsome put your best foot forward and hope for the best.
2) Personality / Charming: You can't change your looks but you can control your attitude. I write this or something like this in almost all my posts because it's true and if you did not know this before. Then you have no game! Be Cool, be Nice, be Funny, stay Positive!
3) Language Skills: Are you kidding me? When I read the posts where some clown says "I speak little to no Spanish will I have a problem meeting non pros?" YES! Imagine going to a job interview and not speaking English. Same shit.
4) Time: Have to put your time in, you have to make the girl feel comfortable with you, time does the trick if you have it. You can't rush these things; women of all countries hate to be rushed. Once again if this is news to you then YOU HAVE NO GAME! If you don't have time then jump in a cab and head to the working girl house.
5) Connections: Friend of a Friend is the BEST way to meet chicks! Always has been; Always will be! Build connections, go to a bar, gym, restaurant and be #2 (see above) but you also need #4 (see above) be cool with another local, the bartender, waitress, buss boy, and if you're lucky you'll get introduced to their circle of friends and BLAMO! You're good! This is how I met my girl, she's a friend of my buddy here in the states, cousin in Colombia. Long story short.
I knew I was "in" when I started getting invited to birthday parties, graduations, ect.
Play the game don't get played.
[quote=john gault; 1186540]you say you may spend more on a novia than a pro. i say you will spend much more and that is a fact. i have stayed with novias from time to time, and it was always the fridge broke down or the washing machine or if she has a car that needs work. as far as the washing machine, and the fridge, when it happened to me, i was never asked to replace or fix them. i just saw how she had to use them and it was to me a thing that needed to be done. now if you are lucky to aviod those pitfalls then going out to eat is now double for you. now i'm sure she is a good cook. seems they all know how to cook. notice how you are buying steak, and fish in the supermarket. wow those grapes from chile look good. all the rest of the family loves this better food than the usual beans and rice. so you like her to have sexy night clothes for you to enjoy. just so happens while you are shopping for those items she sees a pair of jeans she likes. oh yeah while shopping with her, don't let her catch you looking or talking to that cute salesgirl who is wishing you were spending that money on her not your novia. then things for her kids, and medicine. of course going to the discos is another expense. almost forgot all the phone calls you make to her when you are home. god forbid you miss a day without calling her.
all in all, those sweet besos do seem to make it all worthwhile. of course i'm sure some of you brad pitt guys will let us know how they pay almost nothing to have one of these sweet girls. good for you. me i live in the real world.[/quote]exceptional post sir! i just posted a post with a similar tone. i would love your feedback!
I completely agree with JG. I am not a Brad Pitt guy and I know exactly what you are talking about. As far as the "may" is concerned I did not want to discourage Hasideas too much. Guess what Colombianas like most. Shopping.
Correct. I always politely decline any invitation by pros and nonpros to meet their families. Once you meet their families, they will start asking you for a bunch of things. Be careful when they say that you are a member of the family.
[QUOTE=TuDueno;1186475]A "good" girl will probably introduce you to her family quite quickly. But be aware that once you are caught and considered to be part of the family it may be expected that you support them here and there, they call it "colaborar" which simply means you are supposed to pay for let's say the university education. As "novio" you may spend more for having fun with one girl only than you would spend having fun with a lot of working girls during the same period.[/QUOTE]
There's real worlds and then real worlds.
FACT about Colombian culture. In the REAL Colombia, not the one that gets presented in front of the typical pussy-hunting foreigner, Colombians are very VERY suspicious of people they don't know, people outside their circle. This is why you have so many cousins fucking and even marrying in this culture (my gf's parents were cousins, one of my best friend's parents are cousins and my ex-wife has cousins in her grandparents).
If you're some stranger from another part of the city, much less another COUNTRY, they typically wouldn't consider you family for a long long time. And the converse of what you guys said is actually true. If they accept even 100 pesos from you, it's because you're in the circle. Because of this, they will generally not even let you so much as buy a piece of bread or a lightbulb to support the household because that means they are VALIDATING THE RELATIONSHIP and this is something the typical Colombian mom and dad do NOT do lightly, even if things are going great and everybody gets along.
As a matter of fact, an excellent litmus test of if you have a girl who is really going out with you because she earnestly likes you or a gold digger is how long she waits before introducing you to her parents. Bringing you home to Mama and Papa before the 2 month or even 3 month mark is EXTREMELY counter-cultural in the REAL Colombia. If you find yourself being introduced to the family after a week or two, you have an interesada on your hands, so be CAREFUL. This of course means that the whole family is in on the game, and by associating yourself with these people you have now LOST the trust of the whole neighborhood, which to somebody like me would be important, because I live here full time. This is a big part of the reason gringos are starting to get a bad rep here.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186541]This is a very popular topic here as of late and I would like to add my two cents. STOP!
This community is hers so we can talk about where to find sexy-young-women who SCREW for money and if we're lucky provide good service for a reasonable price. We DO NOT care if you want to date non-pros or semi pros. I'm lucky enough to have a cool Colombina novia down there; do all of you want to know about how she hates her boss at the hairsalon? NO you don't because this is a community or posting about screwing professional working girls not the "I want to have a relationship with non pros"
If you're NOT hooking up in the states what makes you think you're going to score in Colombia? You're still you no matter where you're at and if you have NO GAME then you have NO GAME! If you're asking questions like "where is a good place to meet non-working girls, how can I tell if she's a part-time-working girl. Ect" then chance are you Sir have no game! Look in the mirror and you know it to be true. Admitting the problem is the first step in addressing the problem.
Play the game don't get played.[/QUOTE]That's a wakeup call if I ever heard one. That's better than a pot of coffee and a cold shower combined. If you don't speak the language and you don't have any friends, stick to the casas. Game is all encompassing and it exudes or manifests through one's swagger. Running around looking like a MARK or scared won't work in the end. Confidence is so important when it comes to pulling Colombianas. Can't say enough about the money either. Let's just stick to the Forum's MO. Peace
[quote=john gault; 1186540]you say you may spend more on a novia than a pro. i say you will spend much more and that is a fact. i have stayed with novias from time to time, and it was always the fridge broke down or the washing machine or if she has a car that needs work. as far as the washing machine, and the fridge, when it happened to me, i was never asked to replace or fix them. i just saw how she had to use them and it was to me a thing that needed to be done. now if you are lucky to aviod those pitfalls then going out to eat is now double for you. now i'm sure she is a good cook. seems they all know how to cook. notice how you are buying steak, and fish in the supermarket. wow those grapes from chile look good. all the rest of the family loves this better food than the usual beans and rice. so you like her to have sexy night clothes for you to enjoy. just so happens while you are shopping for those items she sees a pair of jeans she likes. oh yeah while shopping with her, don't let her catch you looking or talking to that cute salesgirl who is wishing you were spending that money on her not your novia. then things for her kids, and medicine. of course going to the discos is another expense. almost forgot all the phone calls you make to her when you are home. god forbid you miss a day without calling her.
all in all, those sweet besos do seem to make it all worthwhile. of course i'm sure some of you brad pitt guys will let us know how they pay almost nothing to have one of these sweet girls. good for you. me i live in the real world.[/quote]that's what you get for dating a poor barrio girl. did it once and can't deal with it. now i prefer going after the educated girls with a steady job that don't need to depend on you for anything.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186541]This is a very popular topic here as of late and I would like to add my two cents. STOP!
This community is hers so we can talk about where to find sexy-young-women who SCREW for money and if we're lucky provide good service for a reasonable price. We DO NOT care if you want to date non-pros or semi pros. I'm lucky enough to have a cool Colombina novia down there; do all of you want to know about how she hates her boss at the hairsalon? NO you don't because this is a community or posting about screwing professional working girls not the "I want to have a relationship with non pros"[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. I want to hear about everything. IMO, this board is about international sex. Paid. Unpaid. Pro. Non pro. Semi pro. Young. Old. It doesn't matter as long as it pertains to SEX internationally. If you are looking for more specific info, more power to you. Just skip over the stuff you don't want to read.
My dos centavos.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1186541]News Flash to all the "Young-Yoked-Studs" out there looking to got to COL on a week long trip to pick up non pros; It ain't going to to happen! The deck is stacked against you in alot of waya but the biggest is that there is a established middle class in Colombia (or more well off / more stable) vs say the DR or Costa Rica where 85-90% of the population is poor so you're ECONOMIC GAME is negated. For most of you Fat-Bald-Cheap-Gringos (FBCG is the term I'll be using from now on in all my posts) out there this was your only shot and that's gone! Think about it; If she's a non pro or even semi pro there is a reason for this, her family is not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor! She does not need to sell off her pussy to you for rent and or bills! If she's not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor then why would she want to spend time with you? In the other countries a girl might want to only be treated to a nice meal, movie, little gift, and some attention from a guy other than Hector or Javier who maker her pay for the one soda and hot dog they share sitting on a street corner. Believe it or not there are guys in Colombia who can take a girl out to a normal date and THEY do speak the language perfectly, they do live there so they can put the time in, and they don't make the girl feel like a total working girl![/QUOTE]Not that it ain't going to happen. The stars have to align. Your conditions are on point.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186541]5) Connections: Friend of a Friend is the BEST way to meet chicks! Always has been; Always will be! Build connections, go to a bar, gym, restaurant and be #2 (see above) but you also need #4 (see above) be cool with another local, the bartender, waitress, buss boy, and if you're lucky you'll get introduced to their circle of friends and BLAMO! You're good! This is how I met my girl, she's a friend of my buddy here in the states, cousin in Colombia. Long story short.
I knew I was "in" when I started getting invited to birthday parties, graduations, ect.[/QUOTE]Yes this is great, BUT. Don't be like that idiot that got his ass kicked and got run out of the country! If you use friend connects, DO NOT fuck around. Either one girl at a time OR don't lie and get into something serious just to fuck her.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1186581]And the converse of what you guys said is actually true. If they accept even 100 pesos from you, it's because you're in the circle. Because of this, they will generally not even let you so much as buy a piece of bread or a lightbulb to support the household[/QUOTE]Finally a man who knows what he is talking about. Where are you guys finding these women who are always begging for things and expecting you to take them shopping? And so what if they did. Are you so afraid to say no?
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1186581]As a matter of fact, an excellent litmus test of if you have a girl who is really going out with you because she earnestly likes you or a gold digger is how long she waits before introducing you to her parents. Bringing you home to Mama and Papa before the 2 month or even 3 month mark is EXTREMELY counter-cultural in the REAL Colombia. If you find yourself being introduced to the family after a week or two, you have an interesada on your hands, so be CAREFUL.[/QUOTE]Maybe so, but I'm not a traditional kind of guy. I'm on my game and always to the extreme. One of the first questions I ask a female is,"What is your family going to say if you go out with a foreigner?" Then I ask about meeting her mother because she should not be out with me if her family does not know who I am. This makes them think that this guy must be really serious about me.
But as the point has been made before, if you do not live there, are not a frequent visitor, do not speak Spanish, then stick to the pros. Women are pretty much the same the world around. If they are not pros then they generally are not going to take to and fuck some random Joe that just pops up from out of nowhere no matter how poor and needy they may be.
A couple of comments here. Many of your points are true. The tall dark handsome bartender kinda guy will always get fine, hot looking pussie. Generally, these types of girls are flashy and sexy as hell. The kind we would all like to bang.
I will disagree with you on one point. Serious girls, or girls of quality (from any social strata) are not as gullible. For these girls, who have a higher social or moral composition, will see through the bullshit. For these serious girls of quality, power and confidence trump looks, language skills and "game" any day. Women of quality might be teachers or doctors or just ordinary girls. These girls can be hot and extremely sexy, too, but are the real keepers in life. These girls can spot quality when it is there. The 50+ year old guy who is powerful and successful in life, is more sexy to them than any cholo-bartender type with good looks and good hair. Also, I hate to break the news to you young studs who have worked so hard at developing "game"; chances are very high you are going to get fat and / or loose your hair when you get 50+! When you are past your prime you will look like shit and have no money. The difference is that the doctor-lawyer-engineer-business owner guy who can afford to take multiple trips per year and laying down multiple thousands $$$ per trip will still be getting the very best hot latin pussy.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186541]This is a very popular topic here as of late and I would like to add my two cents. STOP!
This community is hers so we can talk about where to find sexy-young-women who SCREW for money and if we're lucky provide good service for a reasonable price. We DO NOT care if you want to date non-pros or semi pros. I'm lucky enough to have a cool Colombina novia down there; do all of you want to know about how she hates her boss at the hairsalon? NO you don't because this is a community or posting about screwing professional working girls not the "I want to have a relationship with non pros"
News Flash to all the "Young-Yoked-Studs" out there looking to got to COL on a week long trip to pick up non pros; It ain't going to to happen! The deck is stacked against you in alot of waya but the biggest is that there is a established middle class in Colombia (or more well off / more stable) vs say the DR or Costa Rica where 85-90% of the population is poor so you're ECONOMIC GAME is negated. For most of you Fat-Bald-Cheap-Gringos (FBCG is the term I'll be using from now on in all my posts) out there this was your only shot and that's gone! Think about it; If she's a non pro or even semi pro there is a reason for this, her family is not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor! She does not need to sell off her pussy to you for rent and or bills! If she's not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor then why would she want to spend time with you? In the other countries a girl might want to only be treated to a nice meal, movie, little gift, and some attention from a guy other than Hector or Javier who maker her pay for the one soda and hot dog they share sitting on a street corner. Believe it or not there are guys in Colombia who can take a girl out to a normal date and THEY do speak the language perfectly, they do live there so they can put the time in, and they don't make the girl feel like a total working girl!
Por ejempleo: I was at some mall having lunch with my novia and a few table over there was this FBCG with a very pretty chick in her mid 20's maybe early 30's. From what I could hear it was a first date (year of being a bartender and waiter I can spot a first date a mile away) This clown goes ". We can live in a nice big house. Blah blah blah" and the goes ". I already live in a nice house." and he looks all stupid and what not and all he has to say back to her was ". No I mean like an even BIGGER house!" All this FBCG had to say or offer this girl, his only bait was that he had money, when she didn't need or come off as needing his money he had no other bullets in his gun. I dated a semi-pro for a few months. Friend of a Friends.
If you're NOT hooking up in the states what makes you think you're going to score in Colombia? You're still you no matter where you're at and if you have NO GAME then you have NO GAME! If you're asking questions like "where is a good place to meet non-working girls, how can I tell if she's a part-time-working girl. Ect" then chance are you Sir have no game! Look in the mirror and you know it to be true. Admitting the problem is the first step in addressing the problem.
See below for a list of things you will need if you do want to date non pros in Colombia and pretty much the entire world including the states, use this as a road map / laundry list for all the NEWBIES so ya'll can STOP asking the same 10 questions over and over and over. Oh and use the search function, it's there for a reason.
No Specific Order:
1) Reasonably Handsome: Good looking dude pull fine ass bitches. Simple truth. If you are Tall, Dark, and Handsome then stop reading this list. Handsome trumps all else. If you're a good looking dude pussy will find you! If you're not handsome put your best foot forward and hope for the best.
2) Personality / Charming: You can't change your looks but you can control your attitude. I write this or something like this in almost all my posts because it's true and if you did not know this before. Then you have no game! Be Cool, be Nice, be Funny, stay Positive!
3) Language Skills: Are you kidding me? When I read the posts where some clown says "I speak little to no Spanish will I have a problem meeting non pros?" YES! Imagine going to a job interview and not speaking English. Same shit.
4) Time: Have to put your time in, you have to make the girl feel comfortable with you, time does the trick if you have it. You can't rush these things; women of all countries hate to be rushed. Once again if this is news to you then YOU HAVE NO GAME! If you don't have time then jump in a cab and head to the working girl house.
5) Connections: Friend of a Friend is the BEST way to meet chicks! Always has been; Always will be! Build connections, go to a bar, gym, restaurant and be #2 (see above) but you also need #4 (see above) be cool with another local, the bartender, waitress, buss boy, and if you're lucky you'll get introduced to their circle of friends and BLAMO! You're good! This is how I met my girl, she's a friend of my buddy here in the states, cousin in Colombia. Long story short.
I knew I was "in" when I started getting invited to birthday parties, graduations, ect.
Play the game don't get played.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1186544]Exceptional Post sir! I just posted a post with a similar tone. I would love your feedback![/QUOTE]In your earlier post you said that we are getting tired of answering the same 10 questions. I think you, and me, and most of the senior guys here are at the breaking point on this matter. I see post after post where we answer the same question over, and over. Example [ Is there a Help type disco in MDE? } or { Where can I meet Non pro's? }.
Colombia is reaching the breaking point concerning P4P. I see at the airport now more, and more Mongers. On the plane if I sit near them I am constainly reminding them to keep their voices down as they are getting all excited talking about the upcoming Chicas they are going to be seeing. They don't seem to realize that a lot of people on that plane speak English. I think what bothers me most about this is some of these clowns don't care if they are overheard talking this trash.
On another note. If you are getting your passport filled up, and are running out of room you can try this. When entering the Country of your choice it is wise to ask the officer who stamps your passport to stamp on a page where there are already many stamps. All the times I have asked this I have not been disapointed. I think the reason they comply is the stamp is only a formality as when they run your passport thru their computor, that is all that is really needed.
[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1186801]A couple of comments here. Many of your points are true. The tall dark handsome bartender kinda guy will always get fine, hot looking pussie. Generally, these types of girls are flashy and sexy as hell. The kind we would all like to bang.
I will disagree with you on one point. Serious girls, or girls of quality (from any social strata) are not as gullible. For these girls, who have a higher social or moral composition, will see through the bullshit. For these serious girls of quality, power and confidence trump looks, language skills and "game" any day. Women of quality might be teachers or doctors or just ordinary girls. These girls can be hot and extremely sexy, too, but are the real keepers in life. These girls can spot quality when it is there. The 50+ year old guy who is powerful and successful in life, is more sexy to them than any cholo-bartender type with good looks and good hair. Also, I hate to break the news to you young studs who have worked so hard at developing "game"; chances are very high you are going to get fat and / or loose your hair when you get 50+! When you are past your prime you will look like shit and have no money. The difference is that the doctor-lawyer-engineer-business owner guy who can afford to take multiple trips per year and laying down multiple thousands $$$ per trip will still be getting the very best hot latin pussy.[/QUOTE]You are entitled to your opinion. I disagree with you on disagreeing with me. Hahhaha. I'm trying to keep this light and not to start a full beef iwth EstebanH.
You claim is that "The 50+ year old guy who is powerful and successful in life, is more sexy to them than any cholo-bartender type with good looks and good hair". Your argument is that money will make a person more attractive to smarter / a better quality of woman? ON WHAT PLANET? What dream or drugs are you basing this claim on? Game or Swagger is confidence by definition, you can call it charisma or charm or the gift of gab if you are of the older generation.
If you're of advanced age and you have no "Game" (handsome, funny, charming, speak the language if applicable) and you have a 20+ year old super sexy pretty young thing on your arm there is only one thing she's there for SECURITY! South America or China or The States a gold digger is a gold digger. Your money makes her feel secure, car, food, rooms, shelter, cloths, expenses. Ect; that is why you are there! You take away the "success and power" and you got an old dude with nothing going for him. A poor handsome guy is still going to be handsome.
"The difference is that the doctor-lawyer-engineer-business owner guy who can afford to take multiple trips per year and laying down multiple thousands $$$ per trip will still be getting the very best hot latin pussy."
Here again you argue that it is $$$ what will get you "the very best hot latin pussy" NO SHIT? If I'm rich chicks will want to spend my money. Err. I mean time with me? Really?
You can lose money, you can lose power and influence. Your looks will fade but you can retain some of your looks or adapt / age gracefully (all the Movie Stars are in their 45-55 and are still considered very handsome so guys it can be done) and you will and can NEVER LOSE YOUR PERSONALITY! If you're a funny, cool, guy now chances are you'll continue to be so when you're 50+. You might lose your looks but you can keep your game (ONCE again GAME=Charm / Charisma)
(True story I'm holding back the name of the team but the team is in Cali)
Take the owner of the a Pro basket ball team X. He has this super pretty 20+ year old girlfriend who keeps him company, spends time with him, they fly around the world together on trips, she may or may not fuck him (this I don't know) and makes him feel good / young. He keeps her in a the life and light of fame and celebrity his money provides. Fair trade right? Truth be told This girl who I have met on several occasions and is a very smart, pretty, and nice girl; she is getting stuffed by my buddy who is originally from Hawaii who lives in Cali now. My buddy does not own a Pro Basketball team, he does not keep her in her life style, he does not cast a light of celebrity on to her but for some STRANGE and UNKNOWN reason she likes to suck his balls and get her ass slapped and hair pulled by him anyway during doggie. Odd how a 30+ year old surfer guy with 1% body fat living, dirty blond hair, and crushing blue eyes and who lives a "humble" life in Cali can get laid to THE SAME EXACT chick the owner of a pro basketball team calls his girlfriend!
Chances are Mr. Basketball will not lose all his money becasue he has so much of it. If we were to ask him how much pussy he's had in his life vs how much Mr. Surfer has had in his? I'll put my money and lay good odds on Mr. Surfer because he's a funny cool dude who is ALSO GOOD LOOKING!
Let's do a little social experiment: We'll take any "50+ year old successful and powerful" guy who VS 30+ year old handsome guy with good language skills and "game" and put them in ANY SOCIAL situation you want and let's see who ends up getting a phone number, who gets a date, and who ends up getting laid?
Mr."doctor-lawyer-engineer-business owner guy " might have paid for the Chicas to get into the club, paid for their bottle of booze, and even the dress she got on and the shoes on her feet but it is Mr. Cool-Funny-Nice-Fun Guy who is dancing with the girls as you keep the ice cubes cold.
When you spend all your time focusing on money that's all you end up with; Money. When you focus your time on trying to be a better person you end up with. Wait for it. A BETTER PERSON! Who would you rater have fly your wing at a bar or night club? Mr. I make 6 o 7 figures or Mr. Let's do a round of shots with those girls? Oh and a round of shots does not cost a million bucks so the young soon to be ". Past your prime you will look like shit and have no money." guy can still afford to buy the round especially in a SA country but can the rich guy be as cool, funny, charming?
How about making a new thread for newbies' questions, so members who are kind will answer the questions? Good idea?
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1186819]In your earlier post you said that we are getting tired of answering the same 10 questions. I think you, and me, and most of the senior guys here are at the breaking point on this matter. I see post after post where we answer the same question over, and over. Example [ Is there a Help type disco in MDE? } or { Where can I meet Non pro's? }.[/QUOTE]
I agree w / everything here except one. It seems that Paisa girls or Colombianas in general, like "white" handsome guys w / light skin.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186541]This is a very popular topic here as of late and I would like to add my two cents. STOP!
This community is hers so we can talk about where to find sexy-young-women who SCREW for money and if we're lucky provide good service for a reasonable price. We DO NOT care if you want to date non-pros or semi pros. I'm lucky enough to have a cool Colombina novia down there; do all of you want to know about how she hates her boss at the hairsalon? NO you don't because this is a community or posting about screwing professional working girls not the "I want to have a relationship with non pros"
News Flash to all the "Young-Yoked-Studs" out there looking to got to COL on a week long trip to pick up non pros; It ain't going to to happen! The deck is stacked against you in alot of waya but the biggest is that there is a established middle class in Colombia (or more well off / more stable) vs say the DR or Costa Rica where 85-90% of the population is poor so you're ECONOMIC GAME is negated. For most of you Fat-Bald-Cheap-Gringos (FBCG is the term I'll be using from now on in all my posts) out there this was your only shot and that's gone! Think about it; If she's a non pro or even semi pro there is a reason for this, her family is not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor! She does not need to sell off her pussy to you for rent and or bills! If she's not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor then why would she want to spend time with you? In the other countries a girl might want to only be treated to a nice meal, movie, little gift, and some attention from a guy other than Hector or Javier who maker her pay for the one soda and hot dog they share sitting on a street corner. Believe it or not there are guys in Colombia who can take a girl out to a normal date and THEY do speak the language perfectly, they do live there so they can put the time in, and they don't make the girl feel like a total working girl!
Por ejempleo: I was at some mall having lunch with my novia and a few table over there was this FBCG with a very pretty chick in her mid 20's maybe early 30's. From what I could hear it was a first date (year of being a bartender and waiter I can spot a first date a mile away) This clown goes ". We can live in a nice big house. Blah blah blah" and the goes ". I already live in a nice house." and he looks all stupid and what not and all he has to say back to her was ". No I mean like an even BIGGER house!" All this FBCG had to say or offer this girl, his only bait was that he had money, when she didn't need or come off as needing his money he had no other bullets in his gun. I dated a semi-pro for a few months. Friend of a Friends.
If you're NOT hooking up in the states what makes you think you're going to score in Colombia? You're still you no matter where you're at and if you have NO GAME then you have NO GAME! If you're asking questions like "where is a good place to meet non-working girls, how can I tell if she's a part-time-working girl. Ect" then chance are you Sir have no game! Look in the mirror and you know it to be true. Admitting the problem is the first step in addressing the problem.
See below for a list of things you will need if you do want to date non pros in Colombia and pretty much the entire world including the states, use this as a road map / laundry list for all the NEWBIES so ya'll can STOP asking the same 10 questions over and over and over. Oh and use the search function, it's there for a reason.
No Specific Order:
1) Reasonably Handsome: Good looking dude pull fine ass bitches. Simple truth. If you are Tall, Dark, and Handsome then stop reading this list. Handsome trumps all else. If you're a good looking dude pussy will find you! If you're not handsome put your best foot forward and hope for the best.
2) Personality / Charming: You can't change your looks but you can control your attitude. I write this or something like this in almost all my posts because it's true and if you did not know this before. Then you have no game! Be Cool, be Nice, be Funny, stay Positive!
3) Language Skills: Are you kidding me? When I read the posts where some clown says "I speak little to no Spanish will I have a problem meeting non pros?" YES! Imagine going to a job interview and not speaking English. Same shit.
4) Time: Have to put your time in, you have to make the girl feel comfortable with you, time does the trick if you have it. You can't rush these things; women of all countries hate to be rushed. Once again if this is news to you then YOU HAVE NO GAME! If you don't have time then jump in a cab and head to the working girl house.
5) Connections: Friend of a Friend is the BEST way to meet chicks! Always has been; Always will be! Build connections, go to a bar, gym, restaurant and be #2 (see above) but you also need #4 (see above) be cool with another local, the bartender, waitress, buss boy, and if you're lucky you'll get introduced to their circle of friends and BLAMO! You're good! This is how I met my girl, she's a friend of my buddy here in the states, cousin in Colombia. Long story short.
I knew I was "in" when I started getting invited to birthday parties, graduations, ect.
Play the game don't get played.[/QUOTE]
I think psychologists call it biases in representation and illusion, and ordinary people call it sore loser.
[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1186801]A couple of comments here. Many of your points are true. The tall dark handsome bartender kinda guy will always get fine, hot looking pussie. Generally, these types of girls are flashy and sexy as hell. The kind we would all like to bang.
I will disagree with you on one point. Serious girls, or girls of quality (from any social strata) are not as gullible. For these girls, who have a higher social or moral composition, will see through the bullshit. For these serious girls of quality, power and confidence trump looks, language skills and "game" any day. Women of quality might be teachers or doctors or just ordinary girls. These girls can be hot and extremely sexy, too, but are the real keepers in life. These girls can spot quality when it is there. The 50+ year old guy who is powerful and successful in life, is more sexy to them than any cholo-bartender type with good looks and good hair. Also, I hate to break the news to you young studs who have worked so hard at developing "game"; chances are very high you are going to get fat and / or loose your hair when you get 50+! When you are past your prime you will look like shit and have no money. The difference is that the doctor-lawyer-engineer-business owner guy who can afford to take multiple trips per year and laying down multiple thousands $$$ per trip will still be getting the very best hot latin pussy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1186828]You are entitled to your opinion. I disagree with you on disagreeing with me. Hahhaha. I'm trying to keep this light and not to start a full beef iwth EstebanH.
You claim is that "The 50+ year old guy who is powerful and successful in life, is more sexy to them than any cholo-bartender type with good looks and good hair". Your argument is that money will make a person more attractive to smarter / a better quality of woman? ON WHAT PLANET? What dream or drugs are you basing this claim on? Game or Swagger is confidence by definition, you can call it charisma or charm or the gift of gab if you are of the older generation.[/QUOTE]My Dos Centavos. You both have extremely valid points. The issue is your talking about two different parts of the game, two different beasts. Both types (Older / distinguised / experienced/$$game vs. Younger / Yoked Out / Handsome / Broke as a Joke Game) have pros and cons. The surfer / cool guy has the Game of Youth and Good Looks; The Other has the Game of Wisdom and Experience and C. R. E. A. M. (Cash Rules Everything Around Me, WuTang Major Hit Song). One guy is getting pussy thrown at him left and right, the other guy is buying people, assets, countries, etc, ballin out of control, a major shot caller in life.
The older guy can pull BREEZIES all over the world, the younger guy only in his immediate vicinity owing to CASH FLOW issues. The real winner is the sexy, fly woman banging them both, loyal to neither; She has the best of both worlds. Both guys can taste it, most likely neither can hold on to her in the long run. And the irony there, her game will drop as the years kick in, at 40 she'll be a HAS BEEN, with kids, and stretch marks, and getting played by her HUBBY who'll be TAXING another 20 year old. The GAME don't stop, we will all have to improve on our weaknesses before the little blue pill stops working as well, and when that day comes, that' ll be a damn shame.
If you really think about it, neither mix works at the end of the day, only the combination of both.
HAS ANYBODY EVER SEEN THE US TV SHOW CALLED THE MILLIONAIRE MATCHMAKER? Its relevant, because these CATS have no game, not in the US, not in Colombia, not anywhere; hence the demand for this anal-bitchy lady to match up these OBSESSED WORKAHOLIC LOSERS with Millions. If they had any pride (orgullo) , they would OPEN their mouths and give the game of LOVE a shot; or go to the local casas or escort services nearby. Pretty pathetic actually. Hence, all the money in the world won't change your personality or improve YOUR game substantially if you can't hold a conversation, when it is so lacking, as all of those LOSERS are so socially deficient. Anybody can pull up to a hot chick in a Red Ferrari, you still have to get them in the car and have them WILLINGLY drop their panties of their own free will.
Conclusion IMHO, as the earlier posts have mentioned, LOOK IN THE MIRROR, address one's weaknesses, and attack them on a daily basis to be in a constant state of improvement, because from what I've learned when it comes to MONEY, LOOKS, and PERSONALITY, the last item is the only one that can stand on their own. The two example types (OLDER MAN / YOUNG STUD) both have game but are lacking as well, and the Millionaire Matchmaker Losers are lacking in all three AREAS. Peace
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1186856]I agree w / everything here except one. It seems that Paisa girls or Colombianas in general, like "white" handsome guys w / light skin.[/QUOTE]Con ojos claros.
The truth is that the more mature men, while hampered by the effects of age, have a couple of things going for them. They are much more likely to have accumulated wealth, and are more willing to share it. These girls, like women all over the world (except the crazy ones) , want security and protection. In Colombia the flower of the family, could hitch her future to a local novio, but there just not many ways an unconnected Colombian boy can change socio-economic status. And a Colombian dude from a higher strata family is highly unlikely to be serious with some poor girl. Colombians are VERY class conscious.
I believe senior members are more likely to want a long term relationship with and to improve the life of the girl they have chosen, and are able to do it. I'll tell you that the appreciation and gratitude that I have received from my Paisa and her family far exceeds that I have received from my own children, who have never had a need go unmet, and have lived a life of privilege.
The Buddah teaches that the purpose of life is to eliminate the suffering of others. I'm thinking it's time to start a conversation in defense of Western Union novios. Until then,
Only good energy.
[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1186801]A couple of comments here. Many of your points are true. The tall dark handsome bartender kinda guy will always get fine, hot looking pussie. Generally, these types of girls are flashy and sexy as hell. The kind we would all like to bang.
I will disagree with you on one point. Serious girls, or girls of quality (from any social strata) are not as gullible. For these girls, who have a higher social or moral composition, will see through the bullshit. For these serious girls of quality, power and confidence trump looks, language skills and "game" any day. Women of quality might be teachers or doctors or just ordinary girls. These girls can be hot and extremely sexy, too, but are the real keepers in life. These girls can spot quality when it is there. The 50+ year old guy who is powerful and successful in life, is more sexy to them than any cholo-bartender type with good looks and good hair. Also, I hate to break the news to you young studs who have worked so hard at developing "game"; chances are very high you are going to get fat and / or loose your hair when you get 50+! When you are past your prime you will look like shit and have no money. The difference is that the doctor-lawyer-engineer-business owner guy who can afford to take multiple trips per year and laying down multiple thousands $$$ per trip will still be getting the very best hot latin pussy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1186999]The truth is that the more mature men, while hampered by the effects of age, have a couple of things going for them. They are much more likely to have accumulated wealth, and are more willing to share it. These girls, like women all over the world (except the crazy ones) , want security and protection. [B]In Colombia the flower of the family, could hitch her future to a local novio, but there just not many ways an unconnected Colombian boy can change socio-economic status.[/B] And a Colombian dude from a higher strata family is highly unlikely to be serious with some poor girl. Colombians are VERY class conscious.[/QUOTE]All tremendous points in this quoted excerpt that are spot in. But the majority here are comparing foreigners to foreigners.
Most all of us here are foreigners. Younger or older. In general foreigners feel they are in a different class than colombian men and hardly ever even consider colombian men as "the competition". Most every woman you guys are meeting will tell you how colombian men suck, it's a common thread in many posts here and is the mindset of the board.
[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1186999]. I believe senior members are more likely to want a long term relationship with and to improve the life of the girl they have chosen, and are able to do it. I'll tell you that the appreciation and gratitude that I have received from my Paisa and her family far exceeds that I have received from my own children, who have never had a need go unmet, and have lived a life of privilege.
The Buddah teaches that the purpose of life is to eliminate the suffering of others. I'm thinking it's time to start a conversation in defense of Western Union novios. Until then,
Only good energy.[/QUOTE]You said it brother!
Nothing wrong with Western Union and helping someone out, as long you're not getting played, I. E. Your "novia" saying "te amo papi" to 5 other Western Union novios.
There are fantastic girls out there who more than deserve help and whose affection is real, and of course there are the other sharks.
Have fun, and once again, with your eyes open.
Good energy amigos!
[QUOTE=Colbrotha;1186934]Both types (Older / distinguised / experienced/$$game vs. Younger / Yoked Out / Handsome / Broke as a Joke Game) have pros and cons. The surfer / cool guy has the Game of Youth and Good Looks; The Other has the Game of Wisdom and Experience and C. R. E. A. M. (Cash Rules Everything Around Me, WuTang Major Hit Song). One guy is getting pussy thrown at him left and right, the other guy is buying people, assets, countries, etc, ballin out of control, a major shot caller in life.[/QUOTE]These are the extreme ends:
[I][B]Both types (Older / distinguised / experienced/$$game vs. Younger / Yoked Out / Handsome / Broke as a Joke Game) [/B][/I]
Not every older guy with confidence and cash is a fat bald socially inept bore. Not every young stud has tremendous game and is broke with no means.
Also to most eligible Colombianans a guy making 80K 100K 200K, well it's all the same to them. An 80K generous guy can take her on vacation and go StudioF a few times a year, movies 2X a month and dinner once a week and buy her gifts. If it is that guy's nature. A millionaire can be cheap. No one is showing their financials to these girls and pretty much what we say we do and have back home they need to take that as fact. So, to the Colombiana the guy spending $, (who may not be the one who is the millionaire) in her eyes is the better guy (in the money category that is). Just like the girl who has the bigger tits and tighter snatch and swallows is the better choice over another girl who may have better attributes somewhere else.
I don't know ANY guy here who would settle for a fat ugly woman 10 years his junior. Regardless if she is a good cook, punctual, sincere, loving, faithful and everything else [B]women think is important. Becuase THAT is not important to us. [/B]
Most guys here cannot tell the difference between the estrato 2/3 vs 4/5 and know what? Who cares? All that matters is her ass, how she looks and how she is in the sack. Most don't give a crap if she gets her nails done at a salon or her sister does them for her en casa.
[QUOTE=Colbrotha; 1186934]because these CATS have no game, not in the US, not in Colombia, not anywhere; Pretty pathetic actually. [B]Hence, all the money in the world won't change your personality or improve YOUR game substantially if you can't hold a conversation,[/B] when it is so lacking, as all of those LOSERS are so socially deficient. [B]Anybody can pull up to a hot chick in a Red Ferrari, you still have to get them in the car and have them WILLINGLY drop their panties of their own free will.[/B][/QUOTE]Gordon Gecko to Bud Fox: "You had what it takes to get into my office. Do you have what it takes to stay"
Think about this guys, in regards to being with a non pro in any country. [I]"I know a beautiful face and a nice body open a lot of doors but if she doesn't have the heart or the brains to back it up the whole bimbo thing gets real tired real fast." [/I]-author unknown.
Same for her. Super rich guy in a Ferrari is good to get in the front door but if he is putting her feet to sleep he will always just be a wallet she has no respect for and behind his back she is doinking the pool boy. Guevon.
Ditto the young blond haired rock body 25 year old sufer dude will also get in the door but if he is only in town once every 4 months for a week or if he can't take her out and they are sitting home watching videos every night then she might as well get herself a Colombiano who she can at least talk to.
If you are one of the two above you better count the days until she meets the guys that have the whole package. The guys with game in their 30s in good shape, with money who are also generous with it, have a personality and charisma, dance, speak fluent spanish that are in the same league as these girls with only a 10-20 year age difference who live full time in Colombia.
I think a distiction between the realm of objectivity and the realm of wishful thinking is getting unclear here. Who are maintaining / supporting that rich guys are more popular / sexy than handsome guys? Well, they are "gordo, viejo, feo gringos" (according to the words by some chicas in mayorista, centro casas, and CB, but not mine) with money. These girls say that the guys / gringos in question must pay more because no girls want to deal with them. Howver, having money is good. You can buy illusion. You can spend money, and believe that it makes you look sexy. Plus you buy beers to others, and they never disagree with you on anything. Congrats.
BTW, why isn't James Bond a fat, ugly, bald billionaire?
[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1186999]The truth is that the more mature men, while hampered by the effects of age, have a couple of things going for them. They are much more likely to have accumulated wealth, and are more willing to share it. These girls, like women all over the world (except the crazy ones) , want security and protection. In Colombia the flower of the family, could hitch her future to a local novio, but there just not many ways an unconnected Colombian boy can change socio-economic status. And a Colombian dude from a higher strata family is highly unlikely to be serious with some poor girl. Colombians are VERY class conscious.
I believe senior members are more likely to want a long term relationship with and to improve the life of the girl they have chosen, and are able to do it. I'll tell you that the appreciation and gratitude that I have received from my Paisa and her family far exceeds that I have received from my own children, who have never had a need go unmet, and have lived a life of privilege.
The Buddah teaches that the purpose of life is to eliminate the suffering of others. I'm thinking it's time to start a conversation in defense of Western Union novios. Until then,
Only good energy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1187113]I think a distiction between the realm of objectivity and the realm of wishful thinking is getting unclear here. Who are maintaining / supporting that rich guys are more popular / sexy than handsome guys? Well, they are "gordo, viejo, feo gringos" (according to the words by some chicas in mayorista, centro casas, and CB, but not mine) with money. These girls say that the guys / gringos in question must pay more because no girls want to deal with them. Howver, having money is good. You can buy illusion. You can spend money, and believe that it makes you look sexy. Plus you buy beers to others, and they never disagree with you on anything. Congrats.
BTW, why isn't James Bond a fat, ugly, bald billionaire?[/QUOTE]Ok Matt,
I will make more distinctions in regards to my comments. Fat, disgusting men of any age will always be revolting to girls. Lets differentiate older successful guys with added weight and thin / no hair. Most of the guys that I am referring to that go down there are successful, fine gentlemen that have good personalities, hygiene and disposable income. These are the men who have created and sustain the traveling P4P industry. Of course its an illusion. Were it not for these guys, this forum would not exist.
When I look around at young people today in the States there are more obese guys of the younger generation than there ever was when I was coming of age (1970's). I am 56, I have less than 20% body fat, I run six miles 4 days each week, I can bench press over 200 lbs and still have all my hair.
BTW. James Bond is a fictional character played by genetically gifted and highly paid actors.
[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1187129]Ok Matt,
I will make more distinctions in regards to my comments. Fat, disgusting men of any age will always be revolting to girls. Lets differentiate older successful guys with added weight and thin / no hair. Most of the guys that I am referring to that go down there are successful, fine gentlemen that have good personalities, hygiene and disposable income. These are the men who have created and sustain the traveling P4P industry. Of course its an illusion. Were it not for these guys, this forum would not exist.[/QUOTE]You are failing to reject / invalidate my point. Rather you are supporting my point.
[QUOTE=EstebanH;1187129]I am 56, I have less than 20% body fat, I run six miles 4 days each week, I can bench press over 200 lbs and still have all my hair.[/QUOTE]That's great. You are better than my shape. I only run 1-2 miles evry day. Even if you are not rich (in colombian standard) girls will be after you.
[QUOTE=EstebanH;1187129]BTW. James Bond is a fictional character played by genetically gifted and highly paid actors.[/QUOTE]I did not know that he was fictional. I thought he was playing cards and drinking Martini in Monaco this week.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1187099]These are the extreme ends:
[I][B]Both types (Older / distinguised / experienced/$$game vs. Younger / Yoked Out / Handsome / Broke as a Joke Game) [/B][/I]
Not every older guy with confidence and cash is a fat bald socially inept bore. Not every young stud has tremendous game and is broke with no means.
Also to most eligible Colombianans a guy making 80K 100K 200K, well it's all the same to them. An 80K generous guy can take her on vacation and go StudioF a few times a year, movies 2X a month and dinner once a week and buy her gifts. If it is that guy's nature. A millionaire can be cheap. No one is showing their financials to these girls and pretty much what we say we do and have back home they need to take that as fact. So, to the Colombiana the guy spending $, (who may not be the one who is the millionaire) in her eyes is the better guy (in the money category that is). Just like the girl who has the bigger tits and tighter snatch and swallows is the better choice over another girl who may have better attributes somewhere else.
I don't know ANY guy here who would settle for a fat ugly woman 10 years his junior. Regardless if she is a good cook, punctual, sincere, loving, faithful and everything else [B]women think is important. Becuase THAT is not important to us. [/B]
Most guys here cannot tell the difference between the estrato 2/3 vs 4/5 and know what? Who cares? All that matters is her ass, how she looks and how she is in the sack. Most don't give a crap if she gets her nails done at a salon or her sister does them for her en casa.
Gordon Gecko to Bud Fox: "You had what it takes to get into my office. Do you have what it takes to stay"
Think about this guys, in regards to being with a non pro in any country. [I]"I know a beautiful face and a nice body open a lot of doors but if she doesn't have the heart or the brains to back it up the whole bimbo thing gets real tired real fast." [/I]-author unknown.
Same for her. Super rich guy in a Ferrari is good to get in the front door but if he is putting her feet to sleep he will always just be a wallet she has no respect for and behind his back she is doinking the pool boy. Guevon.
Ditto the young blond haired rock body 25 year old sufer dude will also get in the door but if he is only in town once every 4 months for a week or if he can't take her out and they are sitting home watching videos every night then she might as well get herself a Colombiano who she can at least talk to.
If you are one of the two above you better count the days until she meets the guys that have the whole package. The guys with game in their 30s in good shape, with money who are also generous with it, have a personality and charisma, dance, speak fluent spanish that are in the same league as these girls with only a 10-20 year age difference who live full time in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Not every older guy is a stump and not every younger guy has a clue.
I went to Italy and France about 5 years ago. Not once did I feel the need to log onto ANY website or read ANY book about how to meet women (non pros. As if they need a label).
The fact that one needs to ask that question means you don't have game and probably have issues with the ladies back home. You prob have not figured out how to be a man or how to treat a woman. And you know what? It's already too late. There is no class on how to step it up. It is and will always be an obvious act you cannot sustain.
Does James Bond or Brad Pitt need to search the web to find out how to meet girls for their upcoming vacation? I think not.
If you have to ask you are most likely going to have a problem and should stick to pros. Colombia is Colombia not Pluto and women are women. The only reason to ask about Non Pros in another country is if you have problems with non pros in your own country.
Sorry for the harsh words, but they had to be said.
[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1187201]I went to Italy and France about 5 years ago. Not once did I feel the need to log onto ANY website or read ANY book about how to meet women (non pros. As if they need a label).
The fact that one needs to ask that question means you don't have game and probably have issues with the ladies back home. You prob have not figured out how to be a man or how to treat a woman. And you know what? It's already too late. There is no class on how to step it up. It is and will always be an obvious act you cannot sustain.
Does James Bond or Brad Pitt need to search the web to find out how to meet girls for their upcoming vacation? I think not.
If you have to ask you are most likely going to have a problem and should stick to pros. Colombia is Colombia not Pluto and women are women. The only reason to ask about Non Pros in another country is if you have problems with non pros in your own country.
Sorry for the harsh words, but they had to be said.[/QUOTE]What a can of worms we've opned! How is this so hard for some of you guys to understand? Ya'll acting like a gang of monkeys trying to figure out an algebra problem in ancient Latin! Salor Jim you post is spot on! I applaud your "tough love" tone in this post. It did have to be said.
How does that expression go?"If you have to ask how much it is than you can' afford it." Same principle applies, but with girls instead of money; if you're asking how, where, when, to meet normal girls then chances are you'd fail if you ever did find yourself with some normal girls (non working girls!). We use this forum to find quality working girls! Normal girls are everywhere! Professional working girls are not! That is why we need and enjoy this community; to find Sexy Chicks who screw for money and for us to stay safe while doing so!
We are talking about non-pros / normal girls/ not working girls. Keep this in mind it seems some people are are wavering between the two and this is an important distinction.
Those in the "Older Rich Gentlemen" camp: Your money will only take you to the door (pussy) , the person you are will determine if that door opens and you get to stroll in. Same with the "Younger Normal Gentlemen" Same shit. You're looks will take you to the door but if you same some lame / jerk style stuff you're not getting laid.
If you're in good shape. 45-55, and you might be mistaken for the "Worlds Most Interesting Ma" and you have disposable income then good for you! I'm betting you're not. When push comes to shove for a one night stand or to start off a relationship or just hooking up. Handsome and stupid will trump Rich and Nice. For the short term. Long term. Too many factors to generalize. But we're talking meeting non-pros so.
It's that simple, the person you are IS what is important in life; all aspects of life not just picking up chicks. At the end of the day you die and if you have lead a life of being cool and helping other people you'll die a rich person and we well thought of. If you were some rich jerk in life for all of your life you'll die a rich jerk and be remembered as such!
The last thing about Regular Girls: If you have never picked up a girl (either phone number, hook up, or sex) at a bar, restaurant, club, coffee shop, super market, random location / ect. You're not going to be able to do it in a foreign country where you have little to no language skills and for shit sure the girl does not either! No matter how rich or handsome you are regardless of age!
I think you are missing the point. If a rich old guy is sexier than a young or middle-aged handsome guy, as some members believe, why isn't Bond a big, old billionaire? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1187201]I went to Italy and France about 5 years ago. Not once did I feel the need to log onto ANY website or read ANY book about how to meet women (non pros. As if they need a label).
The fact that one needs to ask that question means you don't have game and probably have issues with the ladies back home. You prob have not figured out how to be a man or how to treat a woman. And you know what? It's already too late. There is no class on how to step it up. It is and will always be an obvious act you cannot sustain.
Does James Bond or Brad Pitt need to search the web to find out how to meet girls for their upcoming vacation? I think not.
If you have to ask you are most likely going to have a problem and should stick to pros. Colombia is Colombia not Pluto and women are women. The only reason to ask about Non Pros in another country is if you have problems with non pros in your own country.
Sorry for the harsh words, but they had to be said.[/QUOTE]
1) If you send a dime, you're a moron. OF COURSE the girl has multiple guys sending her money.
2) Where the fuck does this "I'm the man so I should pay for dates" etc shit come from? Do you guys know what YEAR it is? If you're paying for shit with a woman, you should just go with p4p. PERIOD! If a guy and a girl don't have money to do anything and wind up watching videos every night, how the hell is that not every bit as much the woman's responsibility as it is the man's?
3) The best way to keep a girl LONG TERM IMO is to be really good in bed. This comes with experience, and p4p is the BEST for really ramping up your abilities quickly, especially if you take things on that tip instead of just looking out for your own pleasure.
4) YMMV is ALL ABOUT the fact that a lot of guys may have a lot of money, but money can't buy everything. This is why we see so many reports about chica X in casa Y where one guy gets BBBJTCIMNQNS and GFE and all the other acronyms and some other dude gets rushed out the door almost before he pops. The biggie is maintaining your body in good shape, and this can still be done WAY past 50.
5) Colombian women by and large PREFER Colombian men. They like a guy they can talk to, that has a whole culture in common with them. Not to mention Colombians take a lot better care of themselves than North Americans, and that includes the men. ASIDE FROM THEIR MONEY most foreingers are actually at a DISADVANTAGE on the dating market here. You may get some action on the "exotic factor" but that doesn't go as far as you might think it will.
Pro, non pro, Game, no game. Old and fat or young stud. Who really gives a fuck but the guy himself. You guys can write about this till your blue in the face, and guess what? No one will change his opinion because of what the opposing side writes.
All I can say is I will be in Colombia next month, and I will send out trip reports with facts. Not how many orgasimos I gave the girls, but prices, locations and general news that a true monger can use.
What a fair $amount to give a young and pretty Paisita to spend a week vacation with con sexo?
[Quote=John Gault]All I can say is I will be in Colombia next month, and I will send out trip reports with facts. Not how many orgasimos I gave the girls, but prices, locations and general news that a true monger can use.[/Quote]
All I can say is that I wish all posters had this intention as I'm soooo sick of reading about performances, techniques and "sexual scorecards" that I could vomit!
So, PLEASE, PLEASE and PLEASE guys, we, in general, know how to perform the sex act so we don't need "Penthouse Forumesq-like" reports.
To quote Jack Webb through his character of Sgt. Joe Friday."Just the facts" (and I know I'm really dating myself with this). just exactly what JG is going to do!
I was in CTG last October during the elections. All alcohol sales were prohibited from Midnight Friday until Midnight Sunday. All clubs were closed. Does any-one know the dates of the eletion this year?
[quote=speedbump;1187365]i was in ctg last october during the elections. all alcohol sales were prohibited from midnight friday until midnight sunday. all clubs were closed. does any-one know the dates of the eletion this year?[/quote]octubre 29. inicia la ley seca.
octubre 30. inmunidad de comisiones escrutadoras.
octubre 30. día de la eleccióand.
octubre 31. la comisióand escrutadora debe asistir a la sede de la registraduría.
octubre 31. fin de la ley seca.
drink in the bars on 27th friday night
dry all weekend even liquor stores.
drink again monday the 31st.
technically it is against the law to sell and drink, so if you are having a party keep the noise down. not that anyone ever gets busted for drinking in the privacy of their own home but if you have an obnoxios gringo party and some cops with a hard on.
[QUOTE=Lexb; 1187312]All I can say is that I wish all posters had this intention as I'm soooo sick of reading about performances, techniques and "sexual scorecards" that I could vomit!
So, PLEASE, PLEASE and PLEASE guys, we, in general, know how to perform the sex act so we don't need "Penthouse Forumesq-like" reports.
To quote Jack Webb through his character of Sgt. Joe Friday."Just the facts" (and I know I'm really dating myself with this). Just exactly what JG is going to do![/QUOTE]That's what the Reports sections are for. This is the General Info section.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1187497]That's what the Reports sections are for. This is the General Info section.[/QUOTE]I agree 100. The GAME has many facets to it. Senior members have contributed a lot of their mongering wisdom to newbies in this forum. We all stand to improve in as much as we are concerned about the best / safest places / best deals / juicy and non-juicy details of one's endeavors in these casas. All experiences should be welcome including the questions about "Where to go to meet non-pros?"
Has anybody ever gotten a freebie from a pro? I'm sure many have and many will. Inquiring minds want to know. Peace.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1187226]1) If you send a dime, you're a moron. OF COURSE the girl has multiple guys sending her money.
2) Where the fuck does this "I'm the man so I should pay for dates" etc shit come from? Do you guys know what YEAR it is? If you're paying for shit with a woman, you should just go with p4p. PERIOD! If a guy and a girl don't have money to do anything and wind up watching videos every night, how the hell is that not every bit as much the woman's responsibility as it is the man's?
3) The best way to keep a girl LONG TERM IMO is to be really good in bed. This comes with experience, and p4p is the BEST for really ramping up your abilities quickly, especially if you take things on that tip instead of just looking out for your own pleasure.
4) YMMV is ALL ABOUT the fact that a lot of guys may have a lot of money, but money can't buy everything. This is why we see so many reports about chica X in casa Y where one guy gets BBBJTCIMNQNS and GFE and all the other acronyms and some other dude gets rushed out the door almost before he pops. The biggie is maintaining your body in good shape, and this can still be done WAY past 50.
5) Colombian women by and large PREFER Colombian men. They like a guy they can talk to, that has a whole culture in common with them. Not to mention Colombians take a lot better care of themselves than North Americans, and that includes the men. ASIDE FROM THEIR MONEY most foreingers are actually at a DISADVANTAGE on the dating market here. You may get some action on the "exotic factor" but that doesn't go as far as you might think it will.[/QUOTE]Wow, I have a very different experience there. Better that is
We've talked about this one over and over and over again. The GFE, getting the most bang for the buck, right? This is all about the paying customer and how he's perceived by the provider. If you treat the the provider like a lady, well YMMV.
Was there a connection with her before the encounter?
Can you communicate with her in her language?
How good is HER reputation as far as her mattress skills?
How good is your reputation, how do THEY perceive you?
Did you guys communicate and agree on everything that was to take place in the sack before you went there with her?
Did you nickel and dime her or you both agreed on the $$$ in an ammicable fashion before the deed?
I can go on and on on all the criteria for a nice encounter with a provider. But one thing I can tell mention from my experience is that you can attract a lot more bees with honey than with black pepper.
Showing indifference while with her will get you a certain response from her, ie, not caring if she got off for example. Not that that's what we are paying for; we are in this for OUR pleasure. Period, Are we not? However, making the effort to insure that the experience was enjoyable for the both of you, will yield more satisfying and prolonged encounters than not. That much is certain IMHO.
There have been times when my time was up on plenty of those cheap casas (Several countries) and since she was having such a great time, SHE will extend the time for HER enjoyment, no extra charge. They end up wanting to be your friend for the trip (Don't get tooo attached, though, if you like to stick and move like I do) ; but it gives you the option of a sure fire, guaranteed, atomic hot encounter when you feel like repeating with that provider. I know I'm doing things right by the amount of cream that squirts out of their privates, we need towel (s) to keep things tydy. I am not saying this happens 100% all the time, but I do get my fare share of really wet spots in the cama if you know what I mean.
The point I'm trying to make is this: Put a little effort into making the expereince enjoyable for her and your milleage will most definetly go much further than if you just don't care.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1187450]You are a paying customer, you gave her a 100K. How much does it cost her or how much effort is it to mutter the sentence "I had 2 orgasms"? I just said it (I was lying) and you know what? I can say it again. And again with little or no effort.
Was very close to a working girl who I think still does a mansion lesbo show. Told me that out of the 100 time they say they come they come once. Surely it was you.
Q: How des a real man satisfy a puta?
A: A real man doesn't care.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Colbrotha; 1187508]I agree 100. The GAME has many facets to it. Senior members have contributed a lot of their mongering wisdom to newbies in this forum. We all stand to improve in as much as we are concerned about the best / safest places / best deals / juicy and non-juicy details of one's endeavors in these casas. All experiences should be welcome including the questions about "Where to go to meet non-pros?"
Has anybody ever gotten a freebie from a pro? I'm sure many have and many will. Inquiring minds want to know. Peace.[/QUOTE]Only one women in Mayorista gave me a few free ones. In the past I had taken her a few times. This night I bought her a drink, and for some reason I was a little down in the dumps. She said lets go, and I said I did not want to. She said come on I won't charge you. This happened twice. After that I did a threesome with her and I paid for that one. She seemed into girls herself as she was really into it with the other chica. Her name is Gloria, and she is in her late 30's or early 40's. She cuts hair at the Prado metro station so she is only a part time Pro now. She speaks some English, and has told me in the past she was a Fase Dos girl. Thinking about it now when I'm in MDE on my next trip I will give her a spin.
That makes sense as at my age I rarely take the 18 year old models. I feel much more comfortable with women in their late 20's or the 30's. This really holds true when I take one to go dancing. For me to make a night of it with a friendly Chica is great fun.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1187209]What a can of worms we've opned! How is this so hard for some of you guys to understand? Ya'll acting like a gang of monkeys trying to figure out an algebra problem in ancient Latin! Salor Jim you post is spot on! I applaud your "tough love" tone in this post. It did have to be said.[/QUOTE]I am curious at what point either of you were appointed as the "one" that determined the purpose of this "open" forum. Last time I checked that person was the owner of the forum. To suppose that you can impose your idea of purpose as the mores of the many is fraught with arrogance.
I am not James Bond and neither did I sleep at a H. I. Express last night, but I can tell you that if you try to run the same "game" on girls in every country, that you run on the ones "back home", you will find yourself sleeping alone in some places. I suspect that was the purpose of the questions, to get some hints on how to approach a lady on "her turf" and not insult her or embarrass her.
Now I will admit that some things seem to be accepted world wide, but even being a gentleman is taken as a sign of weakness in some cultures, and in others the order of the day.
I didn't find it to be "tough love" at all, more over just someone trying to propose their opinion as fact. Just my humble opinion!
Thanks Eddie. I couldn't find that info anywhere. Cartagena was still fun, but it was a little more work.
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1187381]Octubre 29. Inicia la ley seca.
Octubre 30. Inmunidad de comisiones escrutadoras.
Octubre 30. Día de la eleccióand.
Octubre 31. La comisióand escrutadora debe asistir a la sede de la Registraduría.
Octubre 31. Fin de la ley seca.
Drink in the bars on 27th Friday night
Dry all weekend EVEN LIQUOR STORES.
Drink Again Monday the 31st.
Technically it is against the law to sell AND DRINK, so if you are having a party keep the noise down. Not that anyone ever gets busted for drinking in the privacy of their own home but if you have an obnoxios gringo party and some cops with a hard on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1187620]Only one women in Mayorista gave me a few free ones. In the past I had taken her a few times. This night I bought her a drink, and for some reason I was a little down in the dumps. She said lets go, and I said I did not want to. She said come on I won't charge you. This happened twice. After that I did a threesome with her and I paid for that one. She seemed into girls herself as she was really into it with the other chica. Her name is Gloria, and she is in her late 30's or early 40's. She cuts hair at the Prado metro station so she is only a part time Pro now. She speaks some English, and has told me in the past she was a Fase Dos girl. Thinking about it now when I'm in MDE on my next trip I will give her a spin.
That makes sense as at my age I rarely take the 18 year old models. I feel much more comfortable with women in their late 20's or the 30's. This really holds true when I take one to go dancing. For me to make a night of it with a friendly Chica is great fun.[/QUOTE]Comfort is not from their exact age. It's from their relative age to you. If your'e in your 30s. You can get away with a 18year old chica. If you're 60, you should be going after someone in their 40s. It's more comfortable for all involved. No staring and the obvious,"that is her john" look. It's fun to go out without the judgement.
Here's my freebie story. I went to a stripclub and there was this hottie no one was paying much attention to. She was a bit reserved. I opened a bottle with her. I forget why but I didn't take her that night. We had a nice talk. Next night I did the same thing. Near closing, I asked if she wanted to finish the bottle at my place. She said sure but she had to stay until past closing. To my surprise she did come and paid for her own taxi! It was a great night. She never asked for money. In the morning, I gave her taxi money and whatever I had left from the previous night (about 50k). She never looked. After that, I just give her 50k for taxi when she comes over. She is so sweet. I'll probably get her a gift next time. I could have probably got away with not paying anything, but I know she needs the money.
My freebie experiences: I met my ex in a videochat and later married her. She worked either in chat or hooking the whole 5 years we were together. After we fell in love she gave me everything for free. In NYC I had a few hookers who I met at the underground club circuit (almost nonexistent now) who later we became friends and in some instances FWB. I'm good in bed and I like to be really freaky which appeals to pros who have to go though the same fuck-and-suck routine day in and day out. Also there were a couple girls from around the country here who charge for it under other circumstances but they gave it to me for free, including one stunner who charged a million or two a night to traquetos and executives.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1187686]Comfort is not from their exact age. It's from their relative age to you. If your'e in your 30s. You can get away with a 18year old chica. If you're 60, you should be going after someone in their 40s. It's more comfortable for all involved. No staring and the obvious,"that is her john" look. It's fun to go out without the judgement.[/QUOTE]I have made a decision and I no longer give a fuck. I am 39 now, but when I turn 60 I will get married to the finest 30 year old I can find from Thailand, Colombia, or Brazil. And I will not be marrying a dumb ass hooker either.
My influence is a TV show called Modern Family ([url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442437/[/url]) where Ed O'Neil (65 in real life. [url]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0642145/[/url]) portrays an older, retired gentleman who is married to a much younger Colombian woman played by Sofia Vergara (39 in real life [url]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005527/[/url]).
I have 21 years left to live out my fantasies and after will be the biggest fantasy of them all.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1187743]I have made a decision and I no longer give a fuck. I am 39 now, but when I turn 60 I will get married to the finest 30 year old I can find from Thailand, Colombia, or Brazil. And I will not be marrying a dumb ass hooker either.
My influence is a TV show called Modern Family
[url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442437/[/url]
Where Ed O'Neil (65 in real life.
[url]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0642145/[/url]
Portrays an older, retired gentleman who is married to a much younger Colombian woman played by Sofia Vergara (39 in real life.
[url]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005527/[/url]
I have 21 years left to live out my fantasies and after will be the biggest fantasy of them all.[/QUOTE]Whoa BUNDY! I love Modern Family. Yeah dude I feel you. I see friends and assorted friends or friends marring these chics who I wouldn't even fuck for fun or practice and he's marring her! Go for yours! Do what you feel! Hater going to hate; true playas going to shine!
My freebie experience: It happened in March of this year. I met a girl in a casa in Bucaramanga. She was trying to figure me out all night. She kept asking me where are you from? I kept telling her to guess and crap like that. My accent isn't a gringo one and I don't look gringo, well not exactly anyways. Because I'm mixed Colombian / Korean / Samoan. But obviously, we give it away little by little, clothes we wear, swagger, different points of view, etc. Continuing with the story, after polishing a bottle of Rum and Coke, we do the deed and I paid. I came too quick, and she didn't like that. We go back to the table, Polish off another bottle, and she whispers to me that its a sexual fantasy (sueno erotico) of hers to bang an ORIENTAL fellow (whatever, I guess, haven't heard that one before, the shit you hear from pros in Colombia) ; that she wants to tax all night when she gets off work. So we do, and its great, she never asked for anything, gave her taxi fare in the morning. I saw her a few more times after that, never paid her for anything else, but I did give her money because she has 3 kids.
It was starting to turn into something else in her eyes unfortunately. I realized that I wasn't going to be Captain Save-A-Ho, so it ended. She even threw the "M" word in conversation, so I knew it was time to run, plus my vacation of one month was coming to and end. I guess my experience is something beyond a freebie, because she was starting to get serious and she had stopped / or at least said she was going to stop being a pro. A different flip to the freebie idea, still wanted to share it to the forum. Peace.
P. S. From the words of TOO SHORT (infamous Bay Area rapper) :"You can't turn a ho into a housewife", and I really liked this girl, but las manas, las manas, thats the worse about it all.
I will be visiting Colombia for the first time in February. Just wondering which of these cities would be the best for a newbie?
[QUOTE=Amb832;1188534]I will be visiting Colombia for the first time in February. Just wondering which of these cities would be the best for a newbie?[/QUOTE]Cartagena is the safest of the three has a beach, lots of women in bikinis and guys seem to get freebies from beach girls somehow, don't ask me.
Cartagena has nice scenery besides the women, the walled city, clubs and shops. The best thing is that top notch women from all over the country go there to work. So you have beauties from Medellin, Bogotá, Cali, Manizales, La Costa. You name it.
There are top end hotel / restuarants / P4P venues and cheaper hotel / Restaurants / P4P venues. Many things are close together but a cab ride in all 3 is gosh darn inexpensive. If a variety of women with little learning curve is what you are looking for you can't can't wrong in Cartagena.
You need to pick what is right for you.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1187226]1) If you send a dime, you're a moron. OF COURSE the girl has multiple guys sending her money.
2) Where the fuck does this "I'm the man so I should pay for dates" etc shit come from? Do you guys know what YEAR it is? If you're paying for shit with a woman, you should just go with p4p. PERIOD! If a guy and a girl don't have money to do anything and wind up watching videos every night, how the hell is that not every bit as much the woman's responsibility as it is the man's?
3) The best way to keep a girl LONG TERM IMO is to be really good in bed. This comes with experience, and p4p is the BEST for really ramping up your abilities quickly, especially if you take things on that tip instead of just looking out for your own pleasure.
4) YMMV is ALL ABOUT the fact that a lot of guys may have a lot of money, but money can't buy everything. This is why we see so many reports about chica X in casa Y where one guy gets BBBJTCIMNQNS and GFE and all the other acronyms and some other dude gets rushed out the door almost before he pops. The biggie is maintaining your body in good shape, and this can still be done WAY past 50.
5) Colombian women by and large PREFER Colombian men. They like a guy they can talk to, that has a whole culture in common with them. Not to mention Colombians take a lot better care of themselves than North Americans, and that includes the men. ASIDE FROM THEIR MONEY most foreingers are actually at a DISADVANTAGE on the dating market here. You may get some action on the "exotic factor" but that doesn't go as far as you might think it will.[/QUOTE]Superficial opinions usually amuse me, but this missive just illustrates the different experiences and expectations that we bring to Colombia. One one end of the spectrum is the guy who comes to Colombia with the intention of meeting his beautiful princess and living happy ever after in his country, of course. On the other end is the true sex tourist who sees these beautiful Colombian girls as the ideal sex worker. They treat them as the sex workers that many of them are, and as Bango opines, if you can fuck them well enough, then the professionalism disappears and they all want to have your baby. Either of these extremes are rooted in profound narcissism.
Bango is right, Money can't buy everything. But, it's way ahead of what's in second place. It can buy a whole lot in Colombia. I speak with some experience, although my Colombian girl is now studying in the USA But, I'm happy that on the first of the month, I'm at the Western Union sending the administration fee for the apartment I bought for her and in which her family is now living. I always send a few extra pesos. And before you suggest that I'm getting played, I don't do any damn thing in life that I don't want to do. I'm happy knowing that whenever my Colombiana chooses to go wherever she decides to travel on the journey of her life, she has a casa. It's something everyone should have, don't you think?
My point is simply this: most of us are more financially secure than most of the young women we meet. If there is one that you find that is worth your attention, just a little financial assistance goes a long way. Anyone knows pretty quickly if he has found a "normal" girl that is just working at the mall or some other legitimate job, or is going to school. Or, one that just practices the fantasy that they are serious about their future. I'm just say'in, try a little love. Try to enhance someone else's life. You get the intimacy that money or being a sexual athlete can't obtain, and you get the sex from a girl that actually believes that someone cares about them, without this notion of a house with a white picket fence or a marriage. I believe this approach is consistent with my philosophy of.
Only good energy!
[QUOTE=Amb832;1189210]If I take a two week vacation I might go to Bogota one week and Medellin the other week. Or would it be better staying in one city for two weeks?[/QUOTE]Diversify your portfolio. No need to stay in one place for two weeks. Then too I wouldn't stay in Bogota for an entire week. For two weeks I would say Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota, and Cali if you have never been to either of them.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1189221]Diversify your portfolio. No need to stay in one place for two weeks. Then too I wouldn't stay in Bogota for an entire week. For two weeks I would say Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota, and Cali if you have never been to either of them.[/QUOTE]This will be my first trip to Colombia. You're right I will probably hit up different cities. Just trying to get an idea of what cities would be good for a newbie. I think I will definitely go to Medellin for the majority of my visit then fly to another nearby city. I would like to go to a beach town, but they seem to be out of the way.
Newbie questions.
Do Colombian women pro or non pro initiate convo with gringos like in other countries or are they more reserved?
Is it easy to tell a pro from a non pro if I'm walking down the street, in a bar or club, or just hanging out somewhere? I don't want to disrespect any woman assuming she's a working girl.
[QUOTE=Amb832; 1189274]This will be my first trip to Colombia. You're right I will probably hit up different cities. Just trying to get an idea of what cities would be good for a newbie. I think I will definitely go to Medellin for the majority of my visit then fly to another nearby city. I would like to go to a beach town, but they seem to be out of the way.
Newbie questions.
Do Colombian women pro or non pro initiate convo with gringos like in other countries or are they more reserved?
Is it easy to tell a pro from a non pro if I'm walking down the street, in a bar or club, or just hanging out somewhere? I don't want to disrespect any woman assuming she's a working girl.[/QUOTE]Colombian women are more reserved. You will need to initiate.
It is really hard to tell a pro from a non pro unless you are in a pro area like Mayorista. If you see a girl with a gringo, there is a good chance she is a pro. Especially if the dude doesn't speak Spanish.
[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1189179]Superficial opinions usually amuse me, but this missive just illustrates the different experiences and expectations that we bring to Colombia ...
... My point is simply this: most of us are more financially secure than most of the young women we meet. If there is one that you find that is worth your attention, just a little financial assistance goes a long way. Anyone knows pretty quickly if he has found a "normal" girl that is just working at the mall or some other legitimate job, or is going to school. Or, one that just practices the fantasy that they are serious about their future. I'm just say'in, try a little love. Try to enhance someone else's life. You get the intimacy that money or being a sexual athlete can't obtain, and you get the sex from a girl that actually believes that someone cares about them, without this notion of a house with a white picket fence or a marriage. I believe this approach is consistent with my philosophy of.
Only good energy![/QUOTE]You've got a good heart LT.
I liked your post.
Nothing wrong at all with helping out the deserving.
Great energy and very rewarding as well.
[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1189301]Colombian women are more reserved. You will need to initiate.
It is really hard to tell a pro from a non pro unless you are in a pro area like Mayorista. If you see a girl with a gringo, there is a good chance she is a pro. Especially if the dude doesn't speak Spanish.[/QUOTE]That's the only thing that might keep my from approaching a Colombian woman and start a convo. I know little Spanish now. Enough to ask basic questions and make some comments. My trip is not until February so I got 6 months to get better. Worse case if my Spanish is still not that great I will just call up an escort service.
Just wondering has anyone had any good luck meeting women from dominicancupid. Com?
[QUOTE=Amb832; 1189366]That's the only thing that might keep my from approaching a Colombian woman and start a convo. I know little Spanish now. Enough to ask basic questions and make some comments. My trip is not until February so I got 6 months to get better. Worse case if my Spanish is still not that great I will just call up an escort service.
Just wondering has anyone had any good luck meeting women from dominicancupid. Com?[/QUOTE]I need to say thank you to the Amb832; I think he's the first member who has EVER posted anything along the lines of trying to learn or get better at Spanish! WELL DONE SIR! Most the payasos on this board think their "gringo spanish" or a translator app on their big boy phone will be enough. You're on the right track. Learn or improve your language skills if you want a NORMAL GIRL! Not that hard to understand!
A friendly tip; Don't waste that time you have in your house speaking into a computer head set or filling out _____ in a work book or watching Telemundo or Univision. These thing help but are foundation builders and not indicative of real life. I can read about doing open heart surgery but when it comes time for "live fire" well as you can imagine it's not the same. Spanish is WAY faster in real life and full of slang and accents. I have lived in Peru, Argentina, Colombia, and Mexico (long visits over a month in duration several times*) and have a minor in Spanish so excuse me if I'm a bit of a know it all. Go to a Mexican Restaurant or any restaurant or any where you can chat with some native spanish speakers. Make friends with them and just talk to them like they were your english speaking friends, how's your day? That guys a jerk, have you seen this or that show or movie? Ext. Get known and chat them up. Your language skills will improve SO FAST!
What I did: I worked in several restaurants in college and had my co-workers help me with my home work and assignments, helped them with their english and paper work for visas / taxes and that sort of bullshit we became actual friends and we started to hang out, got invited to parties and clubs (Only non Spanish guy in a club full of want to-be-gangsters!) , played soccer on the weekends. Ect. One of those buddies from Colombia had me bring a bunch of crap to his moms house and when I did they were so pleased to hear stories of her son and how he was doing well in America and had American buddies (pretty much only me) they had me over for diner a few night later. THE ENTIRE FAMILY OF YOUNG-PRETTY-SEXY- ELLIGIBLE cousins and sisters and friends was there to meet me! I'm 2ish years with my novia (not a working girl cause I know her family! She works at a hair salon 6 day a week 10 hours a day for short money. You have to respect that hustle). Novia could easily be a girl at a car show / trade show or a want to be model, that level of hot and sexy. I am very luck she is a good girl from a good family who I can trust. She never asks questions when I tell her some bold faced lies to go to the working girl house with my boys. What more could a monger ask for?
My older buddy did the same thing in a way. He spoke 0% spanish, went into this Tai restaurant pretty much every night late for diner. The lady and her husband (from DR) worked there and their little kid would be sitting in a booth struggling with his homework. Dude being a SUPER great guy, good solid person stared helping the kid while he ate every night for weeks if not months. The kid started pulling "As" in every subject! When the family went home guess who was invited home to the DR for a visit? Dude was! And guess who was was paraded around and introduced to the THE ENTIRE FAMILY OF YOUNG-PRETTY-SEXY- ELLIGIBLE cousins and sisters and friends? Dude! He ended up marring one of the gilrs who was like 20 years her junior, She was and still is BEAUTIFUL! He's still a nice guy, who has a nice family and the kid who he helped learn english and with his home work is looking at grad schools now.
Clearly you can't hope to ever have this happen to you, they either happen or they don't you can't force them or go into a situation planning for this to happen. You have to have "good" in your heart and do it to help other people for the sake of helping other people. These examples also lend credence to my personal philosophy of "Be cool, be easy, be nice" and good thing will happen to you if you let them.
In closing Make Friends with Spanish Speaking people, it will help your language skills and you never know what would or could happen! You jsut have to be open minded enough to let it happen!
I've never tried dominicancupid but I have had like 100 or so dates (real dates with normal girls) from Colombiacupid their sister site I'd think. Join CC and star PMing tons of girls, start an on line convo, read her messages with out using a translator and take it from there.
[QUOTE=Amb832;1188534]I will be visiting Colombia for the first time in February. Just wondering which of these cities would be the best for a newbie?[/QUOTE]This is hillarious. LuckyEddie and BlackHawk points you away from their respective home turfs.
I have been to Medellin. I haven't been to Cartagena yet, but will soon. Here's my opinion based on my research and some facts. Make an informed decision for yourself.
Medellin.
Pros.
- cheap casas starting at 30k.
- great nonpro scene.
Cons.
- no free lance clubs (other than online, casas, and Mayorista it's a bit hard to find pros)
- no beach.
- things are spread apart. Will need some spanish or a guide to navigate the first time.
Cartagena.
Pros.
- beach.
- freelance clubs.
- variety of girls from all over Colombia.
Cons.
- expensive casas starting at 150k.
Housing is slightly more expensive in Cartagena. But not that much so.
Food is slightly more expensive in Cartagena if you go to the touristy spots. Probably the equivalent of Parque Lleras in Medellin.
Chicas STARTING asking price is more in Cartagena. In some cases 2-3x more. If you speak some Spanish you can get it down considerably (I will see in soon).
IMO, money shouldn't be a deciding factor. Know how much you want to spend and stick to it. If money is an issue, you can get by in Medellin on a super low budget.
Keep in mind all this depends on if you speak some Spanish. If not, expect to be quoted gringo prices (except casas and stripclubs where prices are fixed) and pay considerably more. Hope this paints a clearer picture.
I would like to recommend someone who teaches spanish one on one. Her name is Marielena and is located in Ecuador. You can take lessons from her for $8. 00 per hour via Skype. This type of lessons give you one-on-one spanish training. After three months with her, we now start out our lesson with about 10 minutes of chit-chat in spanish. I started out with almost zero spanish. I am amazed at how much I have learned from her. You would not get that from a class or a book or a tape.
Marielena has over 12 years of experience teaching spanish. Here are some articles about her:
[url]http://www.captivatingcuenca.com/marielena-andrade-spanish-teacher.html[/url]
[url]http://www.gosouthexpat.com/spanish-lessons-7-per-hour-cuenca-ecuador.html[/url]
If you would like to contact her, use this email address: [email]maryelen26@hotmail.com[/email]
Send her an email and she will give you a free demo lesson.
Please DO NOT tell her you heard about her on a SEX Forum, LOL! I don't want her to think I am a pervert LOL!
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1189574]I need to say thank you to the Amb832; I think he's the first member who has EVER posted anything along the lines of trying to learn or get better at Spanish! WELL DONE SIR! Most the payasos on this board think their "gringo spanish" or a translator app on their big boy phone will be enough. You're on the right track. Learn or improve your language skills if you want a NORMAL GIRL! Not that hard to understand!
A friendly tip; Don't waste that time you have in your house speaking into a computer head set or filling out _____ in a work book or watching Telemundo or Univision. These thing help but are foundation builders and not indicative of real life. I can read about doing open heart surgery but when it comes time for "live fire" well as you can imagine it's not the same. Spanish is WAY faster in real life and full of slang and accents. I have lived in Peru, Argentina, Colombia, and Mexico (long visits over a month in duration several times*) and have a minor in Spanish so excuse me if I'm a bit of a know it all. Go to a Mexican Restaurant or any restaurant or any where you can chat with some native spanish speakers. Make friends with them and just talk to them like they were your english speaking friends, how's your day? That guys a jerk, have you seen this or that show or movie? Ext. Get known and chat them up. Your language skills will improve SO FAST!
What I did: I worked in several restaurants in college and had my co-workers help me with my home work and assignments, helped them with their english and paper work for visas / taxes and that sort of bullshit we became actual friends and we started to hang out, got invited to parties and clubs (Only non Spanish guy in a club full of want to-be-gangsters!) , played soccer on the weekends. Ect. One of those buddies from Colombia had me bring a bunch of crap to his moms house and when I did they were so pleased to hear stories of her son and how he was doing well in America and had American buddies (pretty much only me) they had me over for diner a few night later. THE ENTIRE FAMILY OF YOUNG-PRETTY-SEXY- ELLIGIBLE cousins and sisters and friends was there to meet me! I'm 2ish years with my novia (not a working girl cause I know her family! She works at a hair salon 6 day a week 10 hours a day for short money. You have to respect that hustle). Novia could easily be a girl at a car show / trade show or a want to be model, that level of hot and sexy. I am very luck she is a good girl from a good family who I can trust. She never asks questions when I tell her some bold faced lies to go to the working girl house with my boys. What more could a monger ask for?
My older buddy did the same thing in a way. He spoke 0% spanish, went into this Tai restaurant pretty much every night late for diner. The lady and her husband (from DR) worked there and their little kid would be sitting in a booth struggling with his homework. Dude being a SUPER great guy, good solid person stared helping the kid while he ate every night for weeks if not months. The kid started pulling "As" in every subject! When the family went home guess who was invited home to the DR for a visit? Dude was! And guess who was was paraded around and introduced to the THE ENTIRE FAMILY OF YOUNG-PRETTY-SEXY- ELLIGIBLE cousins and sisters and friends? Dude! He ended up marring one of the gilrs who was like 20 years her junior, She was and still is BEAUTIFUL! He's still a nice guy, who has a nice family and the kid who he helped learn english and with his home work is looking at grad schools now.
Clearly you can't hope to ever have this happen to you, they either happen or they don't you can't force them or go into a situation planning for this to happen. You have to have "good" in your heart and do it to help other people for the sake of helping other people. These examples also lend credence to my personal philosophy of "Be cool, be easy, be nice" and good thing will happen to you if you let them.
In closing Make Friends with Spanish Speaking people, it will help your language skills and you never know what would or could happen! You jsut have to be open minded enough to let it happen!
I've never tried dominicancupid but I have had like 100 or so dates (real dates with normal girls) from Colombiacupid their sister site I'd think. Join CC and star PMing tons of girls, start an on line convo, read her messages with out using a translator and take it from there.[/QUOTE]
Seems like I'm getting no where studying from a book. I have a few Spanish speaking friends that can help me out. I think I will learn faster by actually chatting with another person.
Sorry I meant to say colombiancupid. Com instead of DC. I sent out a few notes to some of the girls there just to make convoy and ask about the city they live in. Most haven't replied while some gave me their email / messenger names but they're never online. LOL. One chick I had to block because she was begging for money before I even know her name.
[QUOTE=Amb832; 1189649]Seems like I'm getting no where studying from a book. I have a few Spanish speaking friends that can help me out. I think I will learn faster by actually chatting with another person.
Sorry I meant to say colombiancupid. Com instead of DC. I sent out a few notes to some of the girls there just to make convoy and ask about the city they live in. Most haven't replied while some gave me their email / messenger names but they're never online. LOL. One chick I had to block because she was begging for money before I even know her name.[/QUOTE]Typo. Convo instead of convoy
[QUOTE=Amb832;1189649]Seems like I'm getting no where studying from a book. I have a few Spanish speaking friends that can help me out. I think I will learn faster by actually chatting with another person.[/QUOTE]Natalia Velez teaches Spanish via Skype. Her website is [url]http://elearnspanishonline.com/[/url] She's located in Medellin, but I don't know if she offers private Spanish lessons in Medellin.
Natalia also has a You Tube channel for learning Spanish. If you subscribe to her website [url]http://elearnspanishonline.com/[/url], she provides a transcript of her video lessons on You Tube.
Natalia is "eye candy" which is a bonus, but since she's from Medellin, I've found it helpful to listen to her voice since I sometimes found the Colombian Spanish dialect different than those spoken in Mexico or Ecuador.
Even if you have no desire or intent to learn Spanish, just watching Natalia on her videos wants me to visit Colombia again.
My trip to Colombia is not until February. If I start practicing in September will that be enough time to know enough Spanish to communicate with the locals?
Colombiancupid update.
I had to delete a chick from my email cause she wasn't interested in talking. She just wanted me to visit some webcam site and pay to see her. LOL. Is there a way to tell if a profile on there is fake or not?
The cupid sites are all being watched by the usual scam artists. I have been approached multiple times by "girls" (no photo) from either Ghana or Nigeria.
Within a few sentences you will see the usual sob story begin, how destitute they are etc. After the first one wasted about 5 mins of my time, I started.
Replying that I am really from Nigeria or Ghana depending on the mark. You will be amazed how fast they "block" your profile.
It's a business, the scammer doesn't want to hit on the same mark twice and waste time.
[QUOTE=Amb832; 1190607]My trip to Colombia is not until February. If I start practicing in September will that be enough time to know enough Spanish to communicate with the locals?
Colombiancupid update.
I had to delete a chick from my email cause she wasn't interested in talking. She just wanted me to visit some webcam site and pay to see her. LOL. Is there a way to tell if a profile on there is fake or not?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amb832; 1190607]My trip to Colombia is not until February. If I start practicing in September will that be enough time to know enough Spanish to communicate with the locals?
Colombiancupid update.
I had to delete a chick from my email cause she wasn't interested in talking. She just wanted me to visit some webcam site and pay to see her. LOL. Is there a way to tell if a profile on there is fake or not?[/QUOTE]Thanks again Amb! Trying and wanting to learn Spanish shows you have "heart" and not some Gringo-Dickhead who's going to down load a talking app on his phone!
Well how is your spanish now? Do you learn languages easliy? Could you pass a college 101 class? Start by watching American Movies bubbed in Espanol. You'll pick up phrases and watch a kids show. To converse with a girl on some level you need to get up to 202, for real talks 300 level I'd say. Or just use the linnks below for that online tutorial. OR go to a bar or Spanish food joint and pratice with them. Is there a Men's soccor league in your town? Is there a park where spanish people play on the weekends? If you see a bunch of fat spanish guys fooling around ask to join in. If they're real good you'll just be in the way.
I'm off to hit up a few of my fave spots today! Put the novia on a flight to Medellin and if it wan't for the 3THREE! Hours of traffic and HUGE rain I wuold have gone out last night.
[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1189179]Superficial opinions usually amuse me, but this missive just illustrates the different experiences and expectations that we bring to Colombia. One one end of the spectrum is the guy who comes to Colombia with the intention of meeting his beautiful princess and living happy ever after in his country, of course. On the other end is the true sex tourist who sees these beautiful Colombian girls as the ideal sex worker. They treat them as the sex workers that many of them are, and as Bango opines, if you can fuck them well enough, then the professionalism disappears and they all want to have your baby. Either of these extremes are rooted in profound narcissism.
Bango is right, Money can't buy everything. But, it's way ahead of what's in second place. It can buy a whole lot in Colombia. I speak with some experience, although my Colombian girl is now studying in the USA But, I'm happy that on the first of the month, I'm at the Western Union sending the administration fee for the apartment I bought for her and in which her family is now living. I always send a few extra pesos. And before you suggest that I'm getting played, I don't do any damn thing in life that I don't want to do. I'm happy knowing that whenever my Colombiana chooses to go wherever she decides to travel on the journey of her life, she has a casa. It's something everyone should have, don't you think?
My point is simply this: most of us are more financially secure than most of the young women we meet. If there is one that you find that is worth your attention, just a little financial assistance goes a long way. Anyone knows pretty quickly if he has found a "normal" girl that is just working at the mall or some other legitimate job, or is going to school. Or, one that just practices the fantasy that they are serious about their future. I'm just say'in, try a little love. Try to enhance someone else's life. You get the intimacy that money or being a sexual athlete can't obtain, and you get the sex from a girl that actually believes that someone cares about them, without this notion of a house with a white picket fence or a marriage. I believe this approach is consistent with my philosophy of.
Only good energy![/QUOTE]Talking about superficial, you assumed a lot that is false.
I've been living here for the past 3 years solid, have a permanent visa, work and make and spend Colombian pesos.
I used to rely more on p4p for sex, but especially this year I have more non-pro action. Actually I have a steady gf, but it's an open relationship. We may get a pro or 2 for threesomes sometime down the road but for now it's strictly non-pros. Actually as I write this I couldn't afford a peck on the cheek and a promise from a pro till some payments come in :P.
NOBODY here knows pretty quickly if they've found a "normal" girl. Colombianas fool men who were born and raised here all the time. You as a foreigner who has no roots here don't stand a chance, no matter how worldly you may think you are. I've said it before and I'll say it again. At LEAST 50% of Colombian women between ages 15 and 50 have charged for it at one time or another. The majority of these are women everybody around them THINKS are living saints. I've seen women convince people they are VIRGINS even when I know damn well they ain't :P
Man, to be honest, I'm still reeling with the idea that not even the girl, but her FAMILY moved into an apartment YOU bought, and they are such deadbeats they can't even pay the damn condo fees?
Let me make this perfectly clear. In Colombian culture, decent people do NOT accept handouts from people they are not blood-related to or married to. There is a very very deep stigma associated with this sort of thing here. The fact that somebody accepts money from you even once SHOULD tell you volumes about their character, but I guess it all depends on which head you're thinking with.
It's fine to buy pussy, as long as you watch your ledger carefully and don't get caught in any illusions about your 'princess'. Many of you may find the tone of this offensive, but deep down you can't deny you know I know what I'm talking about.
Take my advice, everybody, pay for it straight up, or don't pay AT ALL. If a girl is serious about you here, SHE should be spending money on YOU. If she never reaches into her own pocket EVER. That's NOT A REAL RELATIONSHIP you have there. This is real life. There's no room for fairy tales here. I think some of you need to bone up on your Machiavelli.
[QUOTE=Dornyone; 1190653]The cupid sites are all being watched by the usual scam artists. I have been approached multiple times by "girls" (no photo) from either Ghana or Nigeria.
Within a few sentences you will see the usual sob story begin, how destitute they are etc. After the first one wasted about 5 mins of my time, I started.
Replying that I am really from Nigeria or Ghana depending on the mark. You will be amazed how fast they "block" your profile.
It's a business, the scammer doesn't want to hit on the same mark twice and waste time.[/QUOTE]I use Colombiancupid all the time and it is pretty damn easy to avoid the scam artists and know pros from non-pros most of the time. I NEVER use pros from sites like this, I am only interested in non / semi pros from there and have been extremely successful but you have to use common sense like NOT responding to a profile without a photo. A list of things that will cull the herd down to a manageable level:
If her age preference range is 20-80 = avoid.
If she posts professionally shot photos wearing Studio F jeans = avoid.
If she immediately gives up her phone number = avoid.
If she obviously has bolt ons = avoid.
If she owns a Blackberry or Iphone with a data / internet package = avoid.
If she lives in Medellin = avoid.
The last one is strictly from my experience and YMMV but I have had zero luck with girls on Colombiancupid that live in Medellin. 90% pros and the ones that aren't pros should be.
[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1190942]I use Colombiancupid all the time and it is pretty damn easy to avoid the scam artists and know pros from non-pros most of the time. I NEVER use pros from sites like this, I am only interested in non / semi pros from there and have been extremely successful but you have to use common sense like NOT responding to a profile without a photo. A list of things that will cull the herd down to a manageable level:
If her age preference range is 20-80 = avoid.
If she posts professionally shot photos wearing Studio F jeans = avoid.
If she immediately gives up her phone number = avoid.
If she obviously has bolt ons = avoid.
If she owns a Blackberry or Iphone with a data / internet package = avoid.
If she lives in Medellin = avoid.
The last one is strictly from my experience and YMMV but I have had zero luck with girls on Colombiancupid that live in Medellin. 90% pros and the ones that aren't pros should be.[/QUOTE]If she lives in Medellin = avoid. LOL. Wow. It's that bad?
If she gives up her email = she's a pro too?
Yea I haven't had too many hits or replies even though I have the platinum status. Glad I only paid for one month.
[QUOTE=Amb832; 1190607]My trip to Colombia is not until February. If I start practicing in September will that be enough time to know enough Spanish to communicate with the locals?
Colombiancupid update.
I had to delete a chick from my email cause she wasn't interested in talking. She just wanted me to visit some webcam site and pay to see her. LOL. Is there a way to tell if a profile on there is fake or not?[/QUOTE]Depending how your Spanish is right now will determine how well you will communicate with the locals. Honestly, I don't think its enough time to swoon any non pros but it should be plenty for the P4P's. Plus Colombian Spanish is tricky, There are so so many slang words that are incorporated in every day chit chat that you will NOT find in any translator period.
[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1190942]I use Colombiancupid all the time and it is pretty damn easy to avoid the scam artists and know pros from non-pros most of the time. I NEVER use pros from sites like this, I am only interested in non / semi pros from there and have been extremely successful but you have to use common sense like NOT responding to a profile without a photo. A list of things that will cull the herd down to a manageable level:
If her age preference range is 20-80 = avoid.
If she posts professionally shot photos wearing Studio F jeans = avoid.
If she immediately gives up her phone number = avoid.
If she obviously has bolt ons = avoid.
If she owns a Blackberry or Iphone with a data / internet package = avoid.
If she lives in Medellin = avoid.
The last one is strictly from my experience and YMMV but I have had zero luck with girls on Colombiancupid that live in Medellin. 90% pros and the ones that aren't pros should be.[/QUOTE]Pretty good list! If she's always ONLINE with her blackberry or Iphone but cannot easily tell you what she does for work or claims to have a job making the minimum 560k pesos. Where is she getting her extra income to supplement her lifestyle from? To supplement her superficial lifestyle from? One of the good things about Colombianas is that they are so easy to read once you are accustomed to know what to look for. Comes with time, trial and error, experience and friendly advice.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1190942].If she lives in Medellin = avoid.[/QUOTE]Along those lines, may I add the following, based on my experience:
If she's a single mom with one or two kids and does not have a regular job = AVOID.
If she's an 8+ and between 18-25 = AVOID.
If she's constantly logged on CC (Colombian Cupids) , RL (Romancelatina) , MSN, or Yahoo = AVOID.
If she can't be found online at night and on weekends (Thursday through Sunday) = AVOID.
One last note, no matter where they are found, CC, RL, or others, it has been unanimously agreed upon by many of us mongers that more than 90% of the chicas on these sites are either pros or semi-pros. The rest of them, the non-pros, IMHO, can only be rated a 6 or below, and many are more than 35 years of age or older.
Good days gents.
EZ
Enzygo.
I don't get your post here. This site is for "mongers", right? In other words, we are looking for girls to have sex with. What difference is it if she has kids, has / doesn't have a job, or if she is on a dating site? I thought the whole idea here was to meet willing girls to have meaningless sex with.
I think you must be looking for a wife.
Leave all the 18-25, 8+ pro and semi pro girls for me!
[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1191014]Along those lines, may I add the following, based on my experience:
If she's a single mom with one or two kids and does not have a regular job = AVOID.
If she's an 8+ and between 18-25 = AVOID.
If she's constantly logged on CC (Colombian Cupids) , RL (Romancelatina) , MSN, or Yahoo = AVOID.
If she can't be found online at night and on weekends (Thursday through Sunday) = AVOID.
One last note, no matter where they are found, CC, RL, or others, it has been unanimously agreed upon by many of us mongers that more than 90% of the chicas on these sites are either pros or semi-pros. The rest of them, the non-pros, IMHO, can only be rated a 6 or below, and many are more than 35 years of age or older.
Good days gents.
EZ[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1191030]Enzygo.
I don't get your post here. This site is for "mongers", right? In other words, we are looking for girls to have sex with. What difference is it if she has kids, has / doesn't have a job, or if she is on a dating site? I thought the whole idea here was to meet willing girls to have meaningless sex with.
I think you must be looking for a wife.
Leave all the 18-25, 8+ pro and semi pro girls for me![/QUOTE]Let me say that no sex ought to be meaningless. Physical pleasure, pure hedonism, is not meaningless. But, it is meaningless in the core of most all men: Need for appreciation, respect, and intimacy. And, I always smile when I read the ambiguous attempt to differentiate between the pro and semi pros. There's not a female homo sapien that has ever been born that didn't know the value of the vagina.
Most of the men on this site, I believe, given the opportunity would like to find a sexual partner that provides for more than hedonistic satisfaction. That damn sure doesn't have to be a wife. There is a lot of types of relationships in the gray area between an encounter or two, or three with a sex worker and the commitment to a spouse. What I think most of us want is hedonism plus. At least I do, but whatever you're looking for in your search, I wish only.
Good energy!
[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1191030]Enzygo.
I don't get your post here.[/QUOTE]My post was just to add some 'ahi' to the one by Manizales911, a few posts back. Basically, we were establishing, in his words, 'A list of things that will cull the herd down to a manageable level'.
And no. I am not looking for a wife. I have a girlfriend in each of the 3 largest cities in Colombia. And guess what? None of them have ever mentioned marriage. Thank God. I would have run and run faster and run the fastest. I truly need someone to be with me in between mongering. I mean you can not go to the casas all day long. How much 'leche' do you have? LOL. It can be boring when you find yourself all alone, say in Medellin. In fact, most of us know that there is so much time we spend in the hotel room without a chica and we pop open the laptop to look for the next, and when nothing comes up, we head for La Mayorista. LOL.
Good days gents.
EZ
[QUOTE=Ezyngo;1191074]My post was just to add some 'ahi' to the one by Manizales911[/QUOTE]Sorry. That was 'Aji' chili sauce.
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[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1190851]Talking about superficial, you assumed a lot that is false.
Let me make this perfectly clear. In Colombian culture, decent people do NOT accept handouts from people they are not blood-related to or married to. There is a very very deep stigma associated with this sort of thing here. The fact that somebody accepts money from you even once SHOULD tell you volumes about their character, but I guess it all depends on which head you're thinking with.
It's fine to buy pussy, as long as you watch your ledger carefully and don't get caught in any illusions about your 'princess'. Many of you may find the tone of this offensive, but deep down you can't deny you know I know what I'm talking about.
Take my advice, everybody, pay for it straight up, or don't pay AT ALL. If a girl is serious about you here, SHE should be spending money on YOU. If she never reaches into her own pocket EVER. That's NOT A REAL RELATIONSHIP you have there. This is real life. There's no room for fairy tales here. I think some of you need to bone up on your Machiavelli.[/QUOTE]Bango, all points are extremely valid except your last. I agree about the family not paying at least for the monthly "La Administracion". You know, since you now live there, and I know since I finished up High School In Colombia a few years ago and have roots there now, that the Colombianas are very "mal acostumbradas" when it comes to paying for anything. Maybe, and I mean maybe they'll chip in more if they're from a higher estrato, or if you're just plain LUCKY. I don't look Colombian, am part Colombian, but have been on enough dates to know that they all "LOVE" the part about the man paying for everything a little too much Machista society. If you have a gf that chips in,"Wonderful", I can honestly say that from the bottom of my heart. But that isn't, it hasn't, and never will be the norm in this society. I got an uncle in a LD relationship, he pays for everything when she comes and visits; another uncle in Bogota, he pays for everything also; an aunt in Bucaramanga who pays for everything (an exception, the man is considered a sinverguenza) ; all these relationships are real and valid. Everybody's throwin down big dollars / pesos to hold on to whomever's is their object of affection."Hay que comprar la cuca" my uncle once said. Colombians and visiting foreigners, including myself, are paying for it one way or the other. You can have a real, sustaining, ever so fulfilling relationship in Colombia with a non-pro / local, but when the check comes at the end of the meal, its just a given who's coming out the pocket as she smiles and tells you how "rico" or "sabroso" the meal was.
Legal Tender's quote couldn't be more true in Colombia, especially in the poorer neighbors where the girl is magically a 9 or a 10. You see this all the time in any major city. There's not a female homo sapien that has ever been born that didn't know the value of the vagina. I don't recommend it, but go to the poorer neighborhoods, and you'll see 9's and 10's. And who's their man, some suspect character from the Barrio. I've seen it in Bucaramanga firsthand, Barrios like Regadero, La Cumbre, and CampoHermoso. Notches up and down in those streets, wouldn't recommend it you going up in there even if you were strapped. Peace
[QUOTE=Ezyngo;1191074]And no. I am not looking for a wife. I have a girlfriend in each of the 3 largest cities in Colombia.[/QUOTE]That's freaking cool! I got to try that, but having one is more that a handful for me at the moment. Enlighten us player how you are juggling 3 novias in 3 different cities? Don't they each require a high level of attention? Do you have like 3 cell phones as well? Inquiring minds would like to know. Je je
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1190851]Talking about superficial, you assumed a lot that is false.
I've been living here for the past 3 years solid, have a permanent visa, work and make and spend Colombian pesos.
I used to rely more on p4p for sex, but especially this year I have more non-pro action. Actually I have a steady gf, but it's an open relationship. We may get a pro or 2 for threesomes sometime down the road but for now it's strictly non-pros. Actually as I write this I couldn't afford a peck on the cheek and a promise from a pro till some payments come in :P.
NOBODY here knows pretty quickly if they've found a "normal" girl. Colombianas fool men who were born and raised here all the time. You as a foreigner who has no roots here don't stand a chance, no matter how worldly you may think you are. I've said it before and I'll say it again. At LEAST 50% of Colombian women between ages 15 and 50 have charged for it at one time or another. The majority of these are women everybody around them THINKS are living saints. I've seen women convince people they are VIRGINS even when I know damn well they ain't :P
Man, to be honest, I'm still reeling with the idea that not even the girl, but her FAMILY moved into an apartment YOU bought, and they are such deadbeats they can't even pay the damn condo fees?
Let me make this perfectly clear. In Colombian culture, decent people do NOT accept handouts from people they are not blood-related to or married to. There is a very very deep stigma associated with this sort of thing here. The fact that somebody accepts money from you even once SHOULD tell you volumes about their character, but I guess it all depends on which head you're thinking with.
It's fine to buy pussy, as long as you watch your ledger carefully and don't get caught in any illusions about your 'princess'. Many of you may find the tone of this offensive, but deep down you can't deny you know I know what I'm talking about.
Take my advice, everybody, pay for it straight up, or don't pay AT ALL. If a girl is serious about you here, SHE should be spending money on YOU. If she never reaches into her own pocket EVER. That's NOT A REAL RELATIONSHIP you have there. This is real life. There's no room for fairy tales here. I think some of you need to bone up on your Machiavelli.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Colbrotha; 1191076]Bango, all points are extremely valid except your last. I agree about the family not paying at least for the monthly "La Administracion". You know, since you now live there, and I know since I finished up High School In Colombia a few years ago and have roots there now, that the Colombianas are very "mal acostumbradas" when it comes to paying for anything. Maybe, and I mean maybe they'll chip in more if they're from a higher estrato, or if you're just plain LUCKY. I don't look Colombian, am part Colombian, but have been on enough dates to know that they all "LOVE" the part about the man paying for everything a little too much Machista society. If you have a gf that chips in,"Wonderful", I can honestly say that from the bottom of my heart. But that isn't, it hasn't, and never will be the norm in this society. I got an uncle in a LD relationship, he pays for everything when she comes and visits; another uncle in Bogota, he pays for everything also; an aunt in Bucaramanga who pays for everything (an exception, the man is considered a sinverguenza) ; all these relationships are real and valid. Everybody's throwin down big dollars / pesos to hold on to whomever's is their object of affection."Hay que comprar la cuca" my uncle once said. Colombians and visiting foreigners, including myself, are paying for it one way or the other. You can have a real, sustaining, ever so fulfilling relationship in Colombia with a non-pro / local, but when the check comes at the end of the meal, its just a given who's coming out the pocket as she smiles and tells you how "rico" or "sabroso" the meal was.
Legal Tender's quote couldn't be more true in Colombia, especially in the poorer neighbors where the girl is magically a 9 or a 10. You see this all the time in any major city. There's not a female homo sapien that has ever been born that didn't know the value of the vagina. I don't recommend it, but go to the poorer neighborhoods, and you'll see 9's and 10's. And who's their man, some suspect character from the Barrio. I've seen it in Bucaramanga firsthand, Barrios like Regadero, La Cumbre, and CampoHermoso. Notches up and down in those streets, wouldn't recommend it you going up in there even if you were strapped. Peace[/QUOTE]I believe that Bango and I simply see these Colombian girls in a different light. This discussion started or at least was kindled by Bango's statement that anyone who sent money to a Colombian girls was a moron. I came out of the closet and admitted that I'm one of those morons on a fairly big scale. Our friend Bango's viewpoint has got to be influenced by his previous choices, as indicated by his words:
(1)"If you send a dime, you're a moron. OF COURSE the girl has multiple guys sending her money"
(2)"The best way to keep a girl LONG TERM IMO is to be really good in bed"
(3)"I met my ex in a videochat and later married her. She worked either in chat or hooking the whole 5 years we were together. It's fine to buy pussy, as long as you watch your ledger carefully and don't get caught in any illusions about your 'princess'. Many of you may find the tone of this offensive, but deep down you can't deny you know I know what I'm talking about"
(4)"Actually I have a steady gf, but it's an open relationship. We may get a pro or 2 for threesomes sometime down the road but for now it's strictly non-pros. Actually as I write this I couldn't afford a peck on the cheek and a promise from a pro till some payments come in."
I didn't find Bango's opinions offensive, but I did find his statement about being caught in "illusions" enlightening. My gut tells me that our friend Bango has been under the "illusion" that he writes about. The Buddha teaches that the source of pain is unfulfilled expectations. Unfulfilled expectations are another way of saying illusion. It can make you bitter.
I don't know about anyone else, but I enjoy what I do for my little Paisa and her family. Her two sisters live with their mother and both of the girls work. Nothing special, but one is in retail and the other in a factory that makes toys. They were not ask to pay anything connected to my Paisa's apartment, except the utilities. My thought was that the money that I sent to them for the "La Administracion" left them a little extra at the end of the month to get something they want or need. Simple as that. I appreciate Colbrotha's view of Colombian society in general, and what these women expect in particular. As Colbrotha's uncle said: "Hay que comprar la cuca." All I know is that the last time my little Paisa and I were preparing to visit Medellin, she was talking on the speaker phone with her mother and two sisters. Of course they were talking a million miles a minute and with the typical Colombian emotion in every word after she told them we were coming for a visit. After a brief discussion of everything Mama was going to cook, etc, I understood,"es maravilloso, el yanqui que viene" It's wonderful, the yankee is coming. And, hell, yes, nobody else pays for anything when the Yankee comes to town. I'm having fun! And for everyone I wish the same and
Only good energy!
(Mongering was originally created by old guys who had retired, raised kids, and divorced their wives. These older guys wanted to live out their final years in a paradise of young, beautiful women and a tropical climate ).
This statement was part of a post by Mr. Gogo. It fits me to a tee except that I only visit the paradise, not live in it. I have been tempted to live in Colombia, but either the need to see my children or the lure of new spots to monger has kept me in my home Country. I balance this out by at least every other month I monger.
I used to try to date Gringas, but soon after encountering Latin America I saw the folly in this. Now I no more respond to requests by family and friends to meet women in my home country.
Mr. Gogo also pointed out that the older experenced monger tends to try to keep a low key, and not make any waves as he partakes of the festivites. The last thing he wants is to have problems or cause inflation in the monger market place.
It is early morning as I ride out this East Coast storm so I just thought to share some thoughts.
My point is you don't have to be an old time monger to be a gentlemen in Paradise. You younger guys here for maybe a few weeks should try and be a little careful to not disturb the waters too much. The { hey I'm on vacation, and I don't care } is not good for our hobby. Use these short trips you take to really get a feel for the country you are in. Some day (it comes so soon) you will be the older guy.
As far as the Pro or non pro action, it is all good. Myself I dabble in Non Pros very little as I need to go to many flowers, and don't like to try and fool a girl who thinks you are sincere.
In closing Gentlemen, lets all try to help one another as we enjoy ourselfs to the hilt.
Reports from MDE in Sept. soon to follow.
[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1191173]I believe that Bango and I simply see these Colombian girls in a different light. This discussion started or at least was kindled by Bango's statement that anyone who sent money to a Colombian girls was a moron. I came out of the closet and admitted that I'm one of those morons on a fairly big scale. Our friend Bango's viewpoint has got to be influenced by his previous choices, as indicated by his words:
(1)"If you send a dime, you're a moron. OF COURSE the girl has multiple guys sending her money"
(2)"The best way to keep a girl LONG TERM IMO is to be really good in bed"
(3)"I met my ex in a videochat and later married her. She worked either in chat or hooking the whole 5 years we were together. It's fine to buy pussy, as long as you watch your ledger carefully and don't get caught in any illusions about your 'princess'. Many of you may find the tone of this offensive, but deep down you can't deny you know I know what I'm talking about"
(4)"Actually I have a steady gf, but it's an open relationship. We may get a pro or 2 for threesomes sometime down the road but for now it's strictly non-pros. Actually as I write this I couldn't afford a peck on the cheek and a promise from a pro till some payments come in."
I didn't find Bango's opinions offensive, but I did find his statement about being caught in "illusions" enlightening. My gut tells me that our friend Bango has been under the "illusion" that he writes about. The Buddha teaches that the source of pain is unfulfilled expectations. Unfulfilled expectations are another way of saying illusion. It can make you bitter.
I don't know about anyone else, but I enjoy what I do for my little Paisa and her family. Her two sisters live with their mother and both of the girls work. Nothing special, but one is in retail and the other in a factory that makes toys. They were not ask to pay anything connected to my Paisa's apartment, except the utilities. My thought was that the money that I sent to them for the "La Administracion" left them a little extra at the end of the month to get something they want or need. Simple as that. I appreciate Colbrotha's view of Colombian society in general, and what these women expect in particular. As Colbrotha's uncle said: "Hay que comprar la cuca." All I know is that the last time my little Paisa and I were preparing to visit Medellin, she was talking on the speaker phone with her mother and two sisters. Of course they were talking a million miles a minute and with the typical Colombian emotion in every word after she told them we were coming for a visit. After a brief discussion of everything Mama was going to cook, etc, I understood,"es maravilloso, el yanqui que viene" It's wonderful, the yankee is coming. And, hell, yes, nobody else pays for anything when the Yankee comes to town. I'm having fun! And for everyone I wish the same and
Only good energy![/QUOTE]I'm with Legal Tender in the PRO-Camp on helping on this one. I feel lucky and blessed to have met and held a good solid relationship with a BEAUTIFUL, smart, sexy, cool, and funny Colombian chick. I know and trust my girl, if you don't trust yours and are constantly suspicious there probably is a reason for it and you should find yourself a new girl; foreign or domestic. If I spent all my time worrying about what she was doing when I was out of the country and what she may or may not have done in the past I'd be even more stress out than I already am with the economy and work. We all have a past and it's best to remember the good times if you can and leave the negative behind; you'll be a happier person for it.
Much like LT and the other guy who got started iwth Bango who helps his girl out. I have no problem with helping out my girl with bills and such. When I first started helping it was a few bucks for her Bday if I couldn't make it down, for her daughter's birthday, ect. She never once asked for money or told me a sob story in the first year and a half we were together; she would say my daugher has a cold or I have a stomach ache but in the natural flow of our conversions and emails / I'm's. I come from a small city filled with hustlers and con men (a blessing and a curse) so I grew up sorting out bullshit and have the uncanny ability to read between the lines and see peoples true motivation and heart; She never set off my alarms.
I am blessed with a good job and a few small but successful businesses I run for myself. It's only money and you can't take it with you are old sayings that are very true and if we're talking about a few Hundo a month and like I said you can afford it then why not help out a girl (and by extension her family).
The Honest joy and happiness that I can bring to her life and the joy she brings to mine. Well worth it. I feel I come out on top! You know. $500 to me is a few diners and a few night out drinking for me and the boys back home (Or like 1 hooker in the states or 2 decent dates with a Local Chick) big deal! That same pile of money is her rent, daughter's school, utilities, and a few bucks to get her nails done and hair did. I tell her to be smart and use this gift with her own income as a blessing and to save and build for the future but a Colombians love to spend!
Some people get played it happens, some people never learn how to play the game and some people play the game to the best of their abilities. What people don't understand is how to control what is going on around them and it scares them so they shut down their hearts and minds; the good stuff cna't come through if you're doors are shut and locked. Do your best, have proper intent and good things will happen to you.
On the other side check out post 8020 over on the Medellin Topic. Brutal!
Be easy be cool
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1191258] (Mongering was originally created by old guys who had retired, raised kids, and divorced their wives. These older guys wanted to live out their final years in a paradise of young, beautiful women and a tropical climate ).
This statement was part of a post by Mr. Gogo. It fits me to a tee except that I only visit the paradise, not live in it. I have been tempted to live in Colombia, but either the need to see my children or the lure of new spots to monger has kept me in my home Country. I balance this out by at least every other month I monger.
I used to try to date Gringas, but soon after encountering Latin America I saw the folly in this. Now I no more respond to requests by family and friends to meet women in my home country.
Mr. Gogo also pointed out that the older experenced monger tends to try to keep a low key, and not make any waves as he partakes of the festivites. The last thing he wants is to have problems or cause inflation in the monger market place.
It is early morning as I ride out this East Coast storm so I just thought to share some thoughts.
My point is you don't have to be an old time monger to be a gentlemen in Paradise. You younger guys here for maybe a few weeks should try and be a little careful to not disturb the waters too much. The { hey I'm on vacation, and I don't care } is not good for our hobby. Use these short trips you take to really get a feel for the country you are in. Some day (it comes so soon) you will be the older guy.
As far as the Pro or non pro action, it is all good. Myself I dabble in Non Pros very little as I need to go to many flowers, and don't like to try and fool a girl who thinks you are sincere.
In closing Gentlemen, lets all try to help one another as we enjoy ourselfs to the hilt.
Reports from MDE in Sept. Soon to follow.[/QUOTE]Hi John, Hope all is well w / you, here are my observations.
I totally agree w / your points about "low profile" in the host country, but young guys can't change. They will be young, energenic and loud. That is their nature and most cannot change. As time goes by they slow down a little and are more understanding of their place and surroundings.
Inflation in "The Mongering Place" is bound to continue. All the good reports from MDE and elsewhere will only add to the demand side of the eqaution. We are all living longer and there are a lot of new mongers in the pipeline. The odds are the price of goods will go up, hopefully I am wrong, but just using logic seems to point to increases in all regards. The one (GOOD) thing about So America is you do need to speak the language in order to fully enjoy the scene. I hope this aspect keeps the demand side down.
The good guys here on the Colombian Board are a double edged sword. On the one side they provide friendly insight and crucial information regarding mongering, here and else where. Why? Because they like people and want to help. But this is how things get overcrowded so no one here can be critical of inflation, especially the nice guys, hahaha.
One last suggestion. If the BM's here want to reduce the number of ugly ignorant post here, the site moderator should install a feature that allows the poster to block certain BM's from viewing their post. Example. I don't like xxx1234 because he is a big mouth jerk so why should I entertain him w / the pics I post. I would rather block him from seeing my post w / pics. I think there should be a feature like this (w / a limit of 5) so a poster can punish by w / holding pics or info. If a feature like this existed you would see a lot less flaming and general ignorant statements. The idiots would have something to lose by being jerks. THIS IS A GOOD IDEA!
Buddhism actually teaches that "everything is sorrow". That's what they call the "trance of sorrow". Not just unfulfilled expectations. But I'm not a Buddhist anyways, I'm a Thelemite, Thelema teaches that "existence is pure joy". .
I know lots of Colombian relationships that are based on money. I know lots of guys espouse that philosophy. That doesn't make the relationships REAL in my book. A real relationship is based on MUTUAL ATTRACTION. 99. 9999% of "romantic" relationships on planet earth are relationships where the girl doesn't like the guy but has some reason to fake it.
You can "buy" a gf or a wife etc. No problem, as long as you don't expect them to not fuck other guys. This is why I say if you send even 100 pesos you're a fool. Because guys who do this actually think the girl in question is waiting on them, and therefore worth all that money.
I obviously don't have a problem with buying WHATEVER with one's hard-earned money, or I wouldn't be a senior member in the first place. But if one analyzes the situation objectively, one realizes that if one wants to use money to get what one wants in life, maintaining a piece of pussy is not a really efficient way to do it.
-If you want a girl who doesn't fuck around on you, you may as well believe in the fucking tooth fairy. People fuck around, period. To think otherwise is to spit in Mother Nature's face, and she's a big bad ***** who doesn't forgive! There is NO amount of money that can keep a good looking woman from using her assets all over the place. It's even more a fool's bet in Colombia where people are on average very good looking, where the culture allows easily for a lot of shit to happen behind closed doors etc. If somebody were to tell me there is ONE faithful Colombiana I'd laugh in their face, except for nobody who actually LIVES here would ever seriously say that without getting laughed out the room!
-If you want companionship and romance, why would you torture yourself by getting into a long distance relationship? For that matter, if it's just romance you're looking for, why not find a girl who provides that for you WITHOUT having to outlay cash?
-If it's about the sex, p4p is a no brainer in situations like these. Do yourself a favor, do the math and add it up.
This is the same reason indirectly, but the SAME goddamn reason I haven't posted any of my best information in years.
A bunch of us got mighty sick and tired of putting up good deals on hotels here only to find that idiots who read this forum started driving the prices up and now it costs triple! The same with our favorite watering holes, our favorite brothels etc. Post it here on the forum and in 3-4 months your good spot or good deal is ruined!
I have a huge issue with people overpaying too. People, when you fucking come to Colombia, STOP tipping taxi drivers, stop tipping in GENERAL! Tipping is NOT part of the culture here. And STOP overpaying the girls. Take the Captain Save-a-ho cape off and BURN THAT SHIT, do us all a favor.
I mentioned using one of my favorite p4p girls here in a trio to my gf (if you like dark meat PM me for the info, like I said my best info no longer goes up in public) , she said to me ok but WE WILL SPLIT THE COST OF HER. She doesn't want me paying even THAT 100% out of pocket. Now THAT is a REAL relationship, a relationship where I can be CERTAIN she ain't in it for the money!
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1191102]how you are juggling 3 novias in 3 different cities? Don't they each require a high level of attention? Do you have like 3 cell phones as well?[/QUOTE]Seriously, I have only one unlocked cell phone with 3 SIM cards, one for each of the novias. But lately I tend to come to Medellin more often because of the weather and the quality of women. I told each one of them that our relationships are open from the start so there is very little suspicion going on. Typically, I go to Bogota and Cali once or twice a year and each time for a week to enjoy their company and GFE in between mongering. They want me to come more often but I tell them a little white lie that I have too much work all the time. I know it's just a matter of time before they decide to call it quit.
EZ
I certainly must confess that I don't understand Bingo's attitude toward these Colombian girls. I have some pretty good ideas about the genesis of his warped view of the world, but I respect his right to be fucking nuts. But, having written that, Black Hawk's personal attacks are simple inappropriate and unproductive, don't you think. And, in any fucking event, revealing the identity of a member here goes way into foul territory. I'm hoping that the post to which I make this reply was just a joke. If it isn't, I'm going to apologize for Black Hawk and assume he just doesn't know better.
For those lucky enough to be residing in Colombia:
The US Embassy will mail you a document of income if you will email them a request with scanned attachments of your supporting documents. Make sure you give them your complete mailing address, phone numbers and your passport information. This can save you a lot of time and trouble. Do this two months in advance of applying for your visa renewal. When your document arrives check ALL details several times. If the Embassy dates the letter 2010 instead of 2011, if they misspell your name or get your passport number wrong, the Ministry of Foreign Relations will not accept it.
Instead of going to the Supercade to get your document legalized, go to Autopista Norte, #166-68. Open continuously from 7:30AM until 7PM. Very quick, few people. Costs 15, 000 pesos per page, bank window next to the legalizing office. Takes about 30 minutes. They also do apostille.
Go to the Ministry of Foreign Relations at Ave 19, #98-03 (they've moved from Cra 13, #93-68). There's a room on the ground floor with a lot of people, this for Colombians to get passports. Go to the right of this to an entrance that is set back, go inside, take the elevator to the third floor. Several police standing around out in front, ask for 'Visas'. The building is called Torre 100. If you go there from the legalizar place on Autopista Norte, #166-68, the building will come up on your right and you can get out right in front. On the third floor, there's a window where you tell the person what you want to apply for. They give you a number and a pay sheet. There's a bank window right next to this. Formerly free, the Pensianado Visa renewal now costs 93, 000 Pesos. Wait until your number comes up, about 30 minutes, go back to the module with your number, speak to an official individually. MAKE SURE ALL YOUR INFORMATION AND DETAILS ARE CORRECT BEFORE HAND. They are sticklers and will send you out to correct any errors. Go back out, wait a little, get called back in to receive your visa and you're finished. Open 7:30AM. 10:30AM. If you're inside at 10:30, you stay until you finish. If not, come back another day. The doors close promptly at 10:30. I saw one woman arrive at 10:32 and be denied entry. She was very upset and screamed 'Me fuiste, me fuiste!
It can be quick and easy, or it can be a travail. My document from the Embassy had the date wrong, out to the Embassy to get another, too late to go back, I had to overnight in a hotel and make all the taxi trips again. The second day, it's noticed that I had received a provisional entry instead of a 60 day tourist visa. WHEN YOU ENTER COLOMBIA, PAY ATTENTION, MAKE SURE YOU GET THE VISA YOU THINK YOU ARE. At 9:30AM I had to go to DAS to get a revision. DAS, Calle 100, #11B-27, Edificio Platino, is down to the corner and 6 blocks up. It took 40 minutes to go, get the revision and get back. I was about ready to run through the streets, crazy, screaming. I get the visa, go directly to the airport. The taxis have a meter and a code sheet to give the correct rate, which is lower than the meter. The driver told me 20, 000, which I thought was double what it should have been, but there were no cops in sight and it was a difference of $5. The airline charged me a 90, 000 peso penalty for changing the date on my ticket. The hotel was 100, 000 pesos. It cost me an extra 250, 000 pesos because the Embassy made an error on the date. They sincerely apologized, but there was no compensation. The Embassy is a fortress, being American doesn't mean anything. All the guards are Colombian, and none of them speak ENGLISH. Do not let the taxi take you to the main entrance. They will not let you in, you will have to go around the block to the consulate entrance, which is a gate in a black iron fence, no sign, no distinguishing details other than a guard box on the inside.
I suggest taking at least 600, 000 pesos, your credit and debit cards, a change or two of clothes and your toiletries. It can take 3 1/2 hours, or it can take two or three days.
Airport to Autopista Norte #166-68, taxi fare 24, 000 pesos. 1 hour in taxi, takes 30 minutes, open continuously 7:30AM. 7PM.
166 to Ministry of Foreign Relations, taxi fare 10, 000 pesos. 40 minutes in taxi, takes about an hour, open 7:30AM. 10:30AM.
MRE to airport. 20 minutes in taxi. 20, 000 pesos fare, which I think was a ripoff. They have a meter and a code sheet for rectifying the rate, make sure they use it.
El Minetero.
Reporting from Pereira, Colombia
I forgot to include the email for the US Consulate in Bogota.
[email]ACSBogota@state.gov[/email]
[QUOTE=El Minetero; 1192851]For those lucky enough to be residing in Colombia:
The US Embassy will mail you a document of income if you will email them a request with scanned attachments of your supporting documents. Make sure you give them your complete mailing address, phone numbers and your passport information. This can save you a lot of time and trouble. Do this two months in advance of applying for your visa renewal. When your document arrives check ALL details several times. If the Embassy dates the letter 2010 instead of 2011, if they misspell your name or get your passport number wrong, the Ministry of Foreign Relations will not accept it.
Instead of going to the Supercade to get your document legalized, go to Autopista Norte, #166-68. Open continuously from 7:30AM until 7PM. Very quick, few people. Costs 15, 000 pesos per page, bank window next to the legalizing office. Takes about 30 minutes. They also do apostille.
Go to the Ministry of Foreign Relations at Ave 19, #98-03 (they've moved from Cra 13, #93-68). There's a room on the ground floor with a lot of people, this for Colombians to get passports. Go to the right of this to an entrance that is set back, go inside, take the elevator to the third floor. Several police standing around out in front, ask for 'Visas'. The building is called Torre 100. If you go there from the legalizar place on Autopista Norte, #166-68, the building will come up on your right and you can get out right in front. On the third floor, there's a window where you tell the person what you want to apply for. They give you a number and a pay sheet. There's a bank window right next to this. Formerly free, the Pensianado Visa renewal now costs 93, 000 Pesos. Wait until your number comes up, about 30 minutes, go back to the module with your number, speak to an official individually. MAKE SURE ALL YOUR INFORMATION AND DETAILS ARE CORRECT BEFORE HAND. They are sticklers and will send you out to correct any errors. Go back out, wait a little, get called back in to receive your visa and you're finished. Open 7:30AM. 10:30AM. If you're inside at 10:30, you stay until you finish. If not, come back another day. The doors close promptly at 10:30. I saw one woman arrive at 10:32 and be denied entry. She was very upset and screamed 'Me fuiste, me fuiste!
It can be quick and easy, or it can be a travail. My document from the Embassy had the date wrong, out to the Embassy to get another, too late to go back, I had to overnight in a hotel and make all the taxi trips again. The second day, it's noticed that I had received a provisional entry instead of a 60 day tourist visa. WHEN YOU ENTER COLOMBIA, PAY ATTENTION, MAKE SURE YOU GET THE VISA YOU THINK YOU ARE. At 9:30AM I had to go to DAS to get a revision. DAS, Calle 100, #11B-27, Edificio Platino, is down to the corner and 6 blocks up. It took 40 minutes to go, get the revision and get back. I was about ready to run through the streets, crazy, screaming. I get the visa, go directly to the airport. The taxis have a meter and a code sheet to give the correct rate, which is lower than the meter. The driver told me 20, 000, which I thought was double what it should have been, but there were no cops in sight and it was a difference of $5. The airline charged me a 90, 000 peso penalty for changing the date on my ticket. The hotel was 100, 000 pesos. It cost me an extra 250, 000 pesos because the Embassy made an error on the date. They sincerely apologized, but there was no compensation. The Embassy is a fortress, being American doesn't mean anything. All the guards are Colombian, and none of them speak ENGLISH. Do not let the taxi take you to the main entrance. They will not let you in, you will have to go around the block to the consulate entrance, which is a gate in a black iron fence, no sign, no distinguishing details other than a guard box on the inside.
I suggest taking at least 600, 000 pesos, your credit and debit cards, a change or two of clothes and your toiletries. It can take 3 1/2 hours, or it can take two or three days.
Airport to Autopista Norte #166-68, taxi fare 24, 000 pesos. 1 hour in taxi, takes 30 minutes, open continuously 7:30AM. 7PM.
166 to Ministry of Foreign Relations, taxi fare 10, 000 pesos. 40 minutes in taxi, takes about an hour, open 7:30AM. 10:30AM.
MRE to airport. 20 minutes in taxi. 20, 000 pesos fare, which I think was a ripoff. They have a meter and a code sheet for rectifying the rate, make sure they use it.
El Minetero.
Reporting from Pereira, Colombia[/QUOTE]In Nov. 2010 I found myself on a 66 day trip in Colombia with 60 days stampted on my passport. I posted a trip report on the agony of dealing with DAS in MDE. So if I ever need a visa extension again, instead of jumping thru hoops I will just take a short trip to Panama or Equador. Sure it will cost me more money, but well worth not dealing with those bean counters at DAS.
Normally the MRE is open till 12pm, except for on the last day of the month, they close at 10:30. And you can go back out and in again if you take a turn.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1191434]This is the same reason indirectly, but the SAME goddamn reason I haven't posted any of my best information in years.
A bunch of us got mighty sick and tired of putting up good deals on hotels here only to find that idiots who read this forum started driving the prices up and now it costs triple! The same with our favorite watering holes, our favorite brothels etc. Post it here on the forum and in 3-4 months your good spot or good deal is ruined!
I have a huge issue with people overpaying too. People, when you fucking come to Colombia, STOP tipping taxi drivers, stop tipping in GENERAL! Tipping is NOT part of the culture here. And STOP overpaying the girls. Take the Captain Save-a-ho cape off and BURN THAT SHIT, do us all a favor.[/QUOTE]Not to mention that your best hotel will be full from now on when you get ready to use it. You know how they are, but you can't tell them nothing.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1190942]The last one is strictly from my experience and YMMV but I have had zero luck with girls on Colombiancupid that live in Medellin. 90% pros and the ones that aren't pros should be.[/QUOTE]Maybe that is why I have been to all of the big Colombian cities except Medellin. I have never thought of it that way.
You don't tip cab drivers- you wait for change! If you want to see how it's done: if your with a chica or local, give them the cabfare and let THEM pay- you will see.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1191434]This is the same reason indirectly, but the SAME goddamn reason I haven't posted any of my best information in years.
A bunch of us got mighty sick and tired of putting up good deals on hotels here only to find that idiots who read this forum started driving the prices up and now it costs triple! The same with our favorite watering holes, our favorite brothels etc. Post it here on the forum and in 3-4 months your good spot or good deal is ruined!
I have a huge issue with people overpaying too. People, when you fucking come to Colombia, STOP tipping taxi drivers, stop tipping in GENERAL! Tipping is NOT part of the culture here. And STOP overpaying the girls. Take the Captain Save-a-ho cape off and BURN THAT SHIT, do us all a favor.
I mentioned using one of my favorite p4p girls here in a trio to my gf (if you like dark meat PM me for the info, like I said my best info no longer goes up in public) , she said to me ok but WE WILL SPLIT THE COST OF HER. She doesn't want me paying even THAT 100% out of pocket. Now THAT is a REAL relationship, a relationship where I can be CERTAIN she ain't in it for the money![/QUOTE]
[quote=hioctane;1189629]this is hillarious. luckyeddie and blackhawk points you away from their respective home turfs.[/quote]more likely you are hilarious. my monger turf is in sxm and two other areas. not medellin. i don't monger here, i live here, for over 10 years. i love when you mongers come down becuase you spend money in my city and greatly help the economy. regardless of how you act and if you give foreigners a bad name i really don't care as i am on the other side of the line. not a tourist, not a sex tourist. our paths will never ever cross. i never see you. just come on down and give money to the poor barrio putas as it goes to buy [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url], medecine food and to a neighbor who does nails and cuts hair.
if i wanted to serve my very own self interest i would promote medellin and trash every other city. but i have a conscious and think it better for a newbie never having been to colombia to get their feet wet with cartagena. it just makes perfect sense.
for a newbie wanting to get started cartagena is the best. i have been there may times, it is safe friendly has a beach, easy to maneuver, not much of a learning curve and the best part is the girls are from all over colombia. there is a huge variety as many girls do not want to work in their home cities for fear of being caught by family. this is the biggest selling point. also bogotá is this was as well but getting around can be a nightmare.
i would always recommend going to cartagena, get friendly with girls from cali, medellin, bogotá, manizales and barranquilla and get thier contact info. next time back to colombia visit the other cities, hook up with that girl and do the monger scene on the side.
after that decide what is best for you. cartgena just makes great all around sense as a starting point. for the record there exists a group of cartagena goons who guard their coveted cartagena because he doesn't like cheap bastards in their city. why this bothers them i have no idea. blackhawk has never even been to medellin.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1191433]I know lots of Colombian relationships that are based on money. I know lots of guys espouse that philosophy. That doesn't make the relationships REAL in my book. A real relationship is based on MUTUAL ATTRACTION. 99. 9999% of "romantic" relationships on planet earth are relationships where the girl doesn't like the guy but has some reason to fake it.
-If you want a girl who doesn't fuck around on you, you may as well believe in the fucking tooth fairy. There is NO amount of money that can keep a good looking woman from using her assets all over the place.[/QUOTE]Not wanting to bust into the privatre deabte. But I think that you may be wrongly assuming that LT thinks / wants that she be faithful. Some guys just don't care about that. The chances that she looks at him as if he were a sugar daddy wallet and that she is in love with some other guy she actually sees on a regular basis are probably really high.
But assuming that LT has a problem with that, well, therein lies your mistake. He seems perfectly content with what he has set up and that is a good thing.
So I recently signed up with RL a couple weeks ago and I'm trying to figure out how to get a decent dialogue going with these women. You know, establish some rapport and hopefully get a few solid prospects. I am happy to report that Colombian women are much more pro-active as far as actually using all the little tools they provide for contacting other members, when compared to my experience with USA dating sites. They seem to like instant messaging but the girls I wish to talk are not online when I am. Browsing the photos, it often becomes pretty obvious who is a pro and who is not. But it seems like most of them check their email only once or twice a week at the internet cafe as apposed to a gringo who gets every email to his phone.
So like I said, how do you effectively get a dialogue going with them via emails? I'll write something like,"hey pretty dress" or "where did you take that photo? I want to go there!" or "do you like make-up and jewelry?" Regardless, of what I write, the most common responses have been;"you're funny" or "here's my cell, call me when you get to Colombia." I know that will work too but I also know it potentially results in a lot of last minute scrambling which I would like to avoid.
So I'm looking for success stories, tips, trigger words? Is it best to be direct or do you really need to just keep throwing darts until you hit the target?
"What needs to be said that they are looking forward to your arrival? Tell them I'm planning a big dinner party and I want them to come? I hope this will inspire a few good jokes as well as something useful.
Public posting or PM me. Its all good. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1193166]So I recently signed up with RL a couple weeks ago and I'm trying to figure out how to get a decent dialogue going with these women. You know, establish some rapport and hopefully get a few solid prospects. I am happy to report that Colombian women are much more pro-active as far as actually using all the little tools they provide for contacting other members, when compared to my experience with USA dating sites. They seem to like instant messaging but the girls I wish to talk are not online when I am. Browsing the photos, it often becomes pretty obvious who is a pro and who is not. But it seems like most of them check their email only once or twice a week at the internet cafe as apposed to a gringo who gets every email to his phone.
So like I said, how do you effectively get a dialogue going with them via emails? I'll write something like,"hey pretty dress" or "where did you take that photo? I want to go there!" or "do you like make-up and jewelry?" Regardless, of what I write, the most common responses have been;"you're funny" or "here's my cell, call me when you get to Colombia." I know that will work too but I also know it potentially results in a lot of last minute scrambling which I would like to avoid.
So I'm looking for success stories, tips, trigger words? Is it best to be direct or do you really need to just keep throwing darts until you hit the target?
"What needs to be said that they are looking forward to your arrival? Tell them I'm planning a big dinner party and I want them to come? I hope this will inspire a few good jokes as well as something useful.
Public posting or PM me. Its all good. Thanks![/QUOTE]If you're trying to find a good girl or even a hangout girl on RL? You're going about it all wrong, Its ONLY full of prepagos and get ready for an Invoice when she's done hanging out with you. Have better luck on C. C. Or L. A. C. (vet them carefully) Those girls on R. L. Hardly ever check their PUTA MAIL and only check it when they log on to R. L. Here and there. Try to get some of their facebooks or one of their many MSN screenmames (LOL). If you are feeling really bold, try and get their Blackberry Pins, a good puta will ALWAYS be available via Blackberry Messenger or MSN 24/7. But by then you already know what you have in front of you.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1191320]I'm with Legal Tender in the PRO-Camp on helping on this one. I feel lucky and blessed to have met and held a good solid relationship with a BEAUTIFUL, smart, sexy, cool, and funny Colombian chick. I know and trust my girl, if you don't trust yours and are constantly suspicious there probably is a reason for it and you should find yourself a new girl; foreign or domestic. If I spent all my time worrying about what she was doing when I was out of the country and what she may or may not have done in the past I'd be even more stress out than I already am with the economy and work. We all have a past and it's best to remember the good times if you can and leave the negative behind; you'll be a happier person for it .[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm in with the positive thinking camp as well.
Some guys' views and observations are from their world, as they see it, and deem it as the truth for everyone.
To say that "everybody cheats", "anybody that sends money is a moron", "locals never tip", "never ever tip", etc, etc.
Well, I'm glad that's not my world.
Peace amigos.
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1193166]So I recently signed up with RL a couple weeks ago and I'm trying to figure out how to get a decent dialogue going with these women. You know, establish some rapport and hopefully get a few solid prospects. I am happy to report that Colombian women are much more pro-active as far as actually using all the little tools they provide for contacting other members, when compared to my experience with USA dating sites. They seem to like instant messaging but the girls I wish to talk are not online when I am. Browsing the photos, it often becomes pretty obvious who is a pro and who is not. But it seems like most of them check their email only once or twice a week at the internet cafe as apposed to a gringo who gets every email to his phone.
So like I said, how do you effectively get a dialogue going with them via emails? I'll write something like,"hey pretty dress" or "where did you take that photo? I want to go there!" or "do you like make-up and jewelry?" Regardless, of what I write, the most common responses have been;"you're funny" or "here's my cell, call me when you get to Colombia." I know that will work too but I also know it potentially results in a lot of last minute scrambling which I would like to avoid.
So I'm looking for success stories, tips, trigger words? Is it best to be direct or do you really need to just keep throwing darts until you hit the target?
"What needs to be said that they are looking forward to your arrival? Tell them I'm planning a big dinner party and I want them to come? I hope this will inspire a few good jokes as well as something useful.
Public posting or PM me. Its all good. Thanks![/QUOTE]First let me say thanks for posting this in the appropriate section and I will offer my advice and help but it will be very straight forward and brutally honest.
What are you asking for exactly? How to build a report with a working girl on line or how to strike up a back and forth with a normal girl?
From what you posted it looks like you have no game with WOMEN WHAT SO EVER."Trigger Words",". Keep throwing darts until you hit the target?" Dinner Party"? Do you seriously need to ask these questions? NO there is no trigger word! Is there a trigger word in the USA that gets you laid? Why would there be one in Colombia? (unless it's green card but who wants to go that rought?) YES! GOD YES KEEP shooting darts? It's a numbers game on line and in life too! I can't believe you even would ask! Diner Party? Dude who would you invite other than her or would you invite all the prospects that emailed you back? There a kitchen or dining room in the Hotel you getting? If you have an Apt. Sorry.
I don't mean to be insulting and the sensitivity and tone of voice is lost in cyber space and I mean to be read in a joking / playful manner, but the evidence is ALL OVER your post that you have little to no clue how to talk to women in any country. Dude. Come on now. Seriously? You're asking advice on how to get a convo going on a dating site that is 60-80 working girls? If you want to know if you can give them a Facial or Butt Loving that should be done face to face as you negotiate the price for the service.
The ones who PM'd you back and say call me when you get here. Working girls clearly, no "Normal Girl" is going to give her # to some random stranger on line. Stock up those numbers and try them all and keep the numbers of the good fun girls. Be clear on what you want; Just Sex vs a Date, If not they might want money for the time you spent with her; fucking or not. She's at work and the meter is always running for her and you don't want to foul a good girl with a misunderstanding.
The Girls who did not email you back ARE NOT INTERESTED because they are not working girls because of either A) They do not find you attractive B) You appear to be a clown via your PM. You wrote "hey pretty dress" or "where did you take that photo? I want to go there!" or "do you like make-up and jewelry?"
LOL LOL LOL.
You got to be kidding me? That's the best you can think of? That all you got? You can't see the HUGE FLAW in these comments? Think on it. I'll show you the answer in a few. Ok you got an answer yet? Can you see your mistake? NO? I'll give you a hint, the answers are in the answers "Thank You, The Beach, Yes"
EVERYTHING YOU WROTE CAN BE ANSWERED IN ONE 1 ONE 1 WORD! If you go to a bar do you ask these same sort of "dead end" questions? Let me guess you don't do too well in bars back home? Ask interesting question, engaging questions, try to be funny, ASK ABOUT HER! Ask about Colombia, ask her if she's seen ____ movie or seen ______ show. Do your research and find out about some trash movie and TV show and ask her about it. JUST like in the states girls; both young and old like trash movies and TV showes. Relax and be cool. Or try to be cool.
The girls you want to talk to when you're on line? Try checking on line at a different time maybe? Think about it; Think about women; Think about what info you have on her. FIGURE IT OUT! Girl X, last log in was a few days ago, has a kid works at Jackson Insurance in Bogota. With this info what can you gleam? She's not going to be on line till after 8 at least till she helps la nina with her home work, feeds the la nina, and puts her to bed. If she hasn't logged in in a month she probably gave up the site.
Please take these tips in good spirits, they will help you out IMMENSELY! I know what works for me, you have to find what works for you.
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1193176]Yeah, I'm in with the positive thinking camp as well.
Some guys' views and observations are from their world, as they see it, and deem it as the truth for everyone.
To say that "everybody cheats","anybody that sends money is a moron","locals never tip","never ever tip", etc, etc.
Well, I'm glad that's not my world.
Peace amigos.[/QUOTE]I trust my gf totally. The difference is I don't expect her to not fuck other guys (and girls). As a matter of fact, that's part of the plan! Human beings weren't made to be monogamous. That's the REAL world, not MY world. It's human nature for people to fuck around, men AND women. Here in Colombia people are better looking on average, of BOTH sexes, and hormones are raging. Not to mention most people drink like crazy every weekend, there are love motels all over the city etc.
Me, if there's a gorilla in the room I'd like to see it. In the case of my gf she goes into my Facebook and picks up girls for BOTH of us. Now that's teamwork. And she has nothing to lie to me about because it's all allowed, as long as a condom is involved :P
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1193175]If you're trying to find a good girl or even a hangout girl on RL? You're going about it all wrong, Its ONLY full of prepagos and get ready for an Invoice when she's done hanging out with you. Have better luck on C. C. Or L. A. C. (vet them carefully) Those girls on R. L. Hardly ever check their PUTA MAIL and only check it when they log on to R. L. Here and there. Try to get some of their facebooks or one of their many MSN screenmames (LOL). If you are feeling really bold, try and get their Blackberry Pins, a good puta will ALWAYS be available via Blackberry Messenger or MSN 24/7. But by then you already know what you have in front of you.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure I would want them to have MY facebook page. I have some Colombian FB friends, but again, thats after I have already met them. ITs so funny when I see a girls photos and I recognize the place she is in which to me clearlly labels her "pro." Are you saying CC and LAC more of the girls actually ARE students?
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1193258]I trust my gf totally. The difference is I don't expect her to not fuck other guys (and girls). As a matter of fact, that's part of the plan! Human beings weren't made to be monogamous. That's the REAL world, not MY world. It's human nature for people to fuck around, men AND women. Here in Colombia people are better looking on average, of BOTH sexes, and hormones are raging. Not to mention most people drink like crazy every weekend, there are love motels all over the city etc.
Me, if there's a gorilla in the room I'd like to see it. In the case of my gf she goes into my Facebook and picks up girls for BOTH of us. Now that's teamwork. And she has nothing to lie to me about because it's all allowed, as long as a condom is involved :P[/QUOTE]So by what means did you meet your perfect GF who sets up threeways for you and with whom you apparently have a mutual respect?
Hey people, it's been awhile. Just wanted to say a few things about Bango's posts. I think he's right for the most part although he exaggerates / distorts (as usual) a few things. Also, keep in mind Bango is practically a local there, he works there and gets paid in COP so the rules are a bit diff for him. Furthermore, his experience is based more on people in the capital. I would venture to say the coast is a bit different. I think the costeņas (and to a lesser extent caleņas & paisas) can be a bit more "grosera" or "inculta" and more expecting for the gringo to pay for stuff or the bf to pay for everything. Again, these are stereotypes but there are some noticeable tendencies while one's personal experience can be a bit different.
I would also say class plays into this. My speculation is that quite a number of girls in estrata 3-4 (but especially in my experience 3, LOL!) can be a bit "aspirational" and "pretentious" yet still shamelessly ask for lots of stuff, go figure. Whereas those who are poorer actually have a combination of pride and shame that inhibits them from always being annoying asking for freebies or just plain leeching off the gringo / bf.
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1193166]So I recently signed up with RL a couple weeks ago and I'm trying to figure out how to get a decent dialogue going with these women. You know, establish some rapport and hopefully get a few solid prospects. I am happy to report that Colombian women are much more pro-active as far as actually using all the little tools they provide for contacting other members, when compared to my experience with USA dating sites. They seem to like instant messaging but the girls I wish to talk are not online when I am. Browsing the photos, it often becomes pretty obvious who is a pro and who is not. But it seems like most of them check their email only once or twice a week at the internet cafe as apposed to a gringo who gets every email to his phone.
So like I said, how do you effectively get a dialogue going with them via emails? I'll write something like,"hey pretty dress" or "where did you take that photo? I want to go there!" or "do you like make-up and jewelry?" Regardless, of what I write, the most common responses have been;"you're funny" or "here's my cell, call me when you get to Colombia." I know that will work too but I also know it potentially results in a lot of last minute scrambling which I would like to avoid.
So I'm looking for success stories, tips, trigger words? Is it best to be direct or do you really need to just keep throwing darts until you hit the target?
"What needs to be said that they are looking forward to your arrival? Tell them I'm planning a big dinner party and I want them to come? I hope this will inspire a few good jokes as well as something useful.
Public posting or PM me. Its all good. Thanks![/QUOTE]First off forget these dating sites as they are mostly Pros who will charge you plenty of money. Stop worrying about getting hooked up. As soon as you arrive in Colombia go straight to the Casas, and street girls. You will get all the sexo you want for a big discount over what you would pay those pros on those sites. Sure there are some non pros on CC, but it is not worth the trouble to sort it out. If non pros are your bag then wait till your in country, and then go to the normal spots to meet girls. If you have some Spanish, and are not bad looking you will will have some luck. Oh yeah almost forgot. You will need a little charm also.
I agree with most written here. But I take issue with the percentage of putas to regular girls on those sites CC and LAC. It's more like 90% if not higher. Just offer some money for them to come to your hotel, tell them you are looking for a tour giude and novia for your vacation. They all take the money even after saying "no soy prepago". Most say that. Then ask if they have any friends interested in making money."pago bien, claro" ("I pay good money for sure") and before you know it the friends are out of the picture and she is sending you her info so that you can rendezvous.
Those sites are a joke, some of the women do it for fun, they are bored at home and just want to chat, have husbands and whatever, some profiles are gay men chatting with studly you (don't slip on the splooge) and a high percentage of the really hot broad profiles are fake just to generate business.
You can put up a profile with Ronaldo's photos written by James Bond and promise the world and none of the 9s / 10s on the site will ever get back to this superstar profile. Why? Because they are guys who work in Atlanta or North Carolina or wherever the outfit is located. The lower ones the girls that are 7/8 that do answer are flakes, already have many clients, charge big bucks and are looking for the agressive, I don't take no for an answer, alpha male who is ready to splash bucks, who make definite plans and arrival date, who talk really sure of themselves.
This one wants 250K a night.
[url]http://www.colombiancupid.com/es/profile/showProfile/ID/1381351[/url]
I could probably make a call and get you a list of about a hundred others but why bother?
You will get tons of numbers that never get answered, email addresses that are never on MSN and it will be a wild goosechase, not worth it. To their defense they apparently put up with a ton of crap from foreigners who never show up. I have two friends in the US who swear by CC but when they get here the girls never show or have some other higher paying client so they get blown off and like John Gault says, they end of doing things the right way and go to the casa where there is a sure thing.
It is a numbers game and you may get something out of it if you don't mind spending lots of money. I tried it one and was not impressed.
Yah half the photos of these poor girls in poblado apartments or the mansion in the background jejejej, the real girls doing these sites are 1 in 30. Maybe less and they get fed up fast and drop within a few weeks.
If you want to avoid overpriced putas, flakey drama and tons of frustration stay away form these sites. If you are looking to jerk off from your home country and don't really care then by all means feel free.
[QUOTE=John Gault;1193440]First off forget these dating sites as they are mostly Pros who will charge you plenty of money. Stop worrying about getting hooked up. As soon as you arrive in Colombia go straight to the Casas, and street girls. You will get all the sexo you want for a big discount over what you would pay those pros on those sites. Sure there are some non pros on CC, but it is not worth the trouble to sort it out. If non pros are your bag then wait till your in country, and then go to the normal spots to meet girls. If you have some Spanish, and are not bad looking you will will have some luck. Oh yeah almost forgot. You will need a little charm also.[/QUOTE]Sage advice . Working girls are working girls and regualr girls are regular girls and none the twain shall meet. The worst is when you think you have a regualr girl but she is giving it up for money all around town. Happens all the time.
[QUOTE=John Gault;1193440]First off forget these dating sites as they are mostly Pros who will charge you plenty of money. Stop worrying about getting hooked up. As soon as you arrive in Colombia go straight to the Casas, and street girls. You will get all the sexo you want for a big discount over what you would pay those pros on those sites. Sure there are some non pros on CC, but it is not worth the trouble to sort it out. If non pros are your bag then wait till your in country, and then go to the normal spots to meet girls. If you have some Spanish, and are not bad looking you will will have some luck. Oh yeah almost forgot. You will need a little charm also.[/QUOTE]Best advice in a while.
Play a little online to practice spanish and chevere skills, but when you get to Colombia, most of the internet contacts go to the wayside IMO.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1193258]I trust my gf totally. The difference is I don't expect her to not fuck other guys (and girls). As a matter of fact, that's part of the plan! Human beings weren't made to be monogamous. That's the REAL world, not MY world. It's human nature for people to fuck around, men AND women. Here in Colombia people are better looking on average, of BOTH sexes, and hormones are raging. Not to mention most people drink like crazy every weekend, there are love motels all over the city etc.
Me, if there's a gorilla in the room I'd like to see it. In the case of my gf she goes into my Facebook and picks up girls for BOTH of us. Now that's teamwork. And she has nothing to lie to me about because it's all allowed, as long as a condom is involved :P[/QUOTE]Bango, I'm thinking that there is a basic flaw in your opinion. Women complain about how unfair it is that men are called studs when they sleep around, yet women get called sluts for the exact same behavior. It's actually not a double standard though, because both scenarios are pretty different in terms of circumstances and consequences. I can think of at least four crucial differences:
First, sleeping around is easier for women. Regardless of how you feel about promiscuity, we can all agree that a guy who manages to rack up a lot of sexual partners has to have some skills. It's challenging for men to rack up partners, even for men with low standards. A man needs social intelligence, interpersonal skills, persistence, thick skin, and plain old dumb luck. For women, though, a vagina and a pulse is often enough. Whenever an accomplishment requires absolutely no challenge, no one respects it. It's just viewed as a lack of self-discipline. People respect those who accomplish challenging feats, while they consider those who overindulge in easily obtained feats as weak, untrustworthy or flawed.
Second, women have potential to do more harm by sleeping around than men do. Say a man sleeps around with a bunch of different women. He's definitely doing harm to these women if he pretends to be monogamous while sleeping around. He may cause them emotional pain by his promiscuity. He may cause unwanted pregnancy. He may spread VD. When women sleep around, however, they can cause not only all these same ill effects but one additional crucial ill effect: the risk of unknown parentage.
If one guy sleeps around with five women, each of whom is monogamous to him, and they all get pregnant, it's a safe bet as to who the father is. If you reverse genders and have one woman who sleeps around with five men who are monogamous to her, and she gets pregnant, the father could be any of the five men. And if one of those men is tricked into raising a baby that isn't his, he's investing time, money, estate and property to provide for a child that isn't carrying his DNA into the next generations, a costly mistake from an evolutionary standpoint.
Our two basic primal drives are to survive and to reproduce, and promiscuous women traditionally make it hard for a man to know for sure whether he is truly reproducing or is secretly raising another man's child. Men stand a lot more to lose from promiscuous women than the other way around. And it's no picnic for the child to not know who his real father is either. And it's a mess for the women carrying on the deception as well. Or just look at any random episode of the Maury show if you don't believe me.
Since the DNA test and the birth control pill didn't exist until recently, there were no reliable ways to prevent pregnancy or prove parentage for most of human history. For this reason society developed a vested interest in preventing promiscuity among women, and society accomplished this by creating the * stigma. And even though the creation of birth control and DNA tests have made this less of a risk than the past, longstanding traditions and customs are not easy for society to break so the * stigma remains.
Third, men have evolutionary reasons to be programmed to sleep around more. A lot of women roll their eyes when they hear that men are 'hard-wired' to sleep around. But from an evolutionary standpoint, it makes total sense. If the two primal drives of humans are to survive and to reproduce, nothing leads to maximum reproduction like one man sleeping with multiple women. If one women sleeps with many men in a nine month period, she can only get pregnant just once. Nine months of rampant promiscuity would give the same result as nine months of highly sexed monogamy: one pregnancy. Now if one man sleeps with many women during a nine month period, you can get many pregnancies during that period. The more women he sleeps with, the more possible pregnancies.
So from an evolutionary standpoint, there are concrete advantages to men being promiscuous compared to women being promiscuous. This doesn't mean that women have evolved to be strictly monogamous. Women have evolved to be somewhat promiscuous too, something men badly underestimate. However they haven't evolved to be as rampantly promiscuous as men.
Fourth, promiscuity poses more risk to women than to men. A woman has more to lose from choosing bad sex partners than a man does. She's the one who gets stuck with going through a pregnancy and taking care of a baby alone if she chooses a deadbeat. For this reason, promiscuous women throughout history have historically been viewed as being a vastly more irresponsible risk takers than promiscuous men, who rightly or wrongly could always run away from the consequences of unwanted pregnancies easier than women could.
These four reasons explain why the longstanding tradition came about of men being rewarded for multiple partners while women get socially punished for similar promiscuity. Of course all this is gradually changing, but we're up against millenia of evolutionary and cultural conditioning here, so don't expect any dramatic overnight reversals.
Understand that I'm just explaining why the double standard came into existence and not condoning or condemning it. This is not an attempt to pass judgment or be self-righteous in any way. It's just an explanation of why the two conditions are treated differently. In all circumstances, I'm wishing. . . .
Only good energy!
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1193166]So I recently signed up with RL a couple weeks ago and I'm trying to figure out how to get a decent dialogue going with these women. You know, establish some rapport and hopefully get a few solid prospects.
So I'm looking for success stories, tips, trigger words? Is it best to be direct or do you really need to just keep throwing darts until you hit the target?[/QUOTE]I'm curious. How good is your Spanish? Bien, mas o menos, mas bien poco? Spanish will come into play as soon as you get off the plane. Unfortunately, these women, whom I consider to be the hottest on the planet, are clueless collectively when it comes to speaking English. At times when you mix in the Violence, General Delinquency, Corruption, Insecurity and the most important one "A constant gettin' over / Shark eat Shark / mentality", it's like Heaven and Hell mixed into one big frying pan, not "melting pot". You're best weapon against these foes would be your language skills and your street smarts. Colombians, since birth, are forced unlike the "SOFT" Americans to survive in all conditions. Most women you may encounter, although top shelf in the LOOKS department, may not be that book smart, or business savvy, but extremely acute with "STREET SMARTS".
Slamcity's "tough love" or kidney poking / prodding is very useful as well as Bango's "in your face" ironical at times cynical cold reality posts about the mindset of the modern Colombian woman with respect to relationships with locals / gringos. We can all appreciate the time taken to voice one's opinions like Legal Tender's Essay Format response to the Double Standard.
Lately, members have been discussing the "no-no's" of tipping in Colombia unlike in the US and Europe. Ud sabe porque? Because it's fuckin' up the game for everybody in Colombia. It's raising prices in the SC / MP / CASAS. And they, the Colombianas, are getting more and more spoiled. I was so hoping to check out Loutron on my next visit to Colombia, first visit to Medellin, but from what I've been reading about it lately, it's completely downhill-overpriced, too mechanical, and lowest quality since their inception. I personally have never tipped a Pro, but then again, I don't require all the extras (BBBJ / DATY / GREEK) like other members. I speak the language, and know the culture, but since I don't look Colombian, I stand out. What's the point of all this? DO YOUR BEST TO NOT STAND OUT. It is a disadvantage, and quickly can become a reason for everybody to feed into the "MARK" scenario. Do you know what a "Paseo Millionario" is? And to think that it happens to locals, not even gringos. Can you imagine?
What will you do with yourself when you spot a "10"? Come back and tell the forum your story, that's what, because you will see one soon enough. Peace.
This is dead on. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1193586]Bango, I'm thinking that there is a basic flaw in your opinion. Women complain about how unfair it is that men are called studs when they sleep around, yet women get called sluts for the exact same behavior...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1193586]Bango, I'm thinking that there is a basic flaw in your opinion. Women complain about how unfair it is that men are called studs when they sleep around, yet women get called sluts for the exact same behavior. It's actually not a double standard though, because both scenarios are pretty different in terms of circumstances and consequences. I can think of at least four crucial differences:
First, sleeping around is easier for women. Regardless of how you feel about promiscuity, we can all agree that a guy who manages to rack up a lot of sexual partners has to have some skills. It's challenging for men to rack up partners, even for men with low standards. A man needs social intelligence, interpersonal skills, persistence, thick skin, and plain old dumb luck. For women, though, a vagina and a pulse is often enough. Whenever an accomplishment requires absolutely no challenge, no one respects it. It's just viewed as a lack of self-discipline. People respect those who accomplish challenging feats, while they consider those who overindulge in easily obtained feats as weak, untrustworthy or flawed.[/QUOTE]I agree 99% with what you said. I just think the pulse is optional.
Ok fellas, here's the deal with those cupido sites, at least from my experience.
It's just a social tool in your kit, if you're totally relying on it, you're going to run into frustration. I've actually met a bunch of nice non-pros through these sites, but most of those girls will require lots of work and time to bed them. Time that you probably don't have. Still, it's nice to have a non-pro "tour guide" that you can take on outings or evening dates and never worry about the local guys thinking she's a prepaga; even if she's not the hottest thing around, that's a nice advantage, makes me feel more secure and relaxed in social outings with the locals I know. Just remember it's wise to keep the pro and non-pro worlds as separate as possible in this country, otherwise your fun vacation will go down the tubes, and life can even get quite complicated!
I think it's getting harder nowadays though because the good girls have gotten scared away. One girl I've dated through the CC site (and still keep in contact with) told me she's sworn off all those sites because she keeps getting crazy propositions from the guys almost right off the bat. I'm sure she's not the only one who feels that way. Thus the sites become a self-selecting forum for prepagas and the guys who are looking for p4p.
So over time, a number of the "good girls" or even some of the "party-type" non-pros who still think themselves above the prepagas (this is Colombia remember, lots of social bs and pettiness) have left out of frustration, fear, or just plain sick and tired of all the propositions.
So it is possible to meet a "normal" colombiana on these sites, just that it's harder nowadays because the girls are much more guarded; and just keep in mind that "normal" in Colombia means a certain amount of flakiness that not even the local men can avoid, LOL! .
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1193826]I agree 99% with what you said. I just think the pulse is optional.[/QUOTE]What's the one thing a woman has to do in order to be good in bed? Show up. Elliot Gould
The Colombian Cupid sites are a no win, putas posing as regular girls, saying they are looking for a meaningful relationship and marriage. This so they can get the tourist to fall in love and send money every month. Bring up sex for your vacation and prices come into the discussion- The puta is always a puta.
There are casa girls and mayorista girls on these sites and when you contact them on the site for sex they are wanting to charge LOTS of money. Yet you can have her at the casa, no dinner, no presents, no waste of time, for 35K. And you are not walking the streets with a known puta. The girls on these sites totally play the dumb tourist. Which is why the vets and smart new comers don't even discuss these here. Until now. Don't waste your time, go for the done deal.
Sad thing is tourists come down looking for a wife, fall in love, send money every month, get married, start singing "My Girl" by the Temptations, bring her back home and after she gets citizenship she bolts, was fucking other guys the whole time before and afer and you are left paying alimony and singing Smokey Robinson "The Tears of a Clown."
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1193283]So by what means did you meet your perfect GF who sets up threeways for you and with whom you apparently have a mutual respect?[/QUOTE]I met her in a threesome actually hahahahahaah, no word of a lie.
It was going to be just a real hot night of dirty sex and it wound up blossoming into a serious relationship, with LOTS of hot nights of dirty sex. .
It also took me 2 years to find her. A year ago I was seeing that girl from Ibague, and we were in the same plan, but she just couldn't deal with having a romantic relationship with me when I knew all her dirty little secrets. But all's well that ends well, my current gf and I are going to visit her in 2 weeks and have a threesome!
[QUOTE=Phunluv; 1193311]Hey people, it's been awhile. Just wanted to say a few things about Bango's posts. I think he's right for the most part although he exaggerates / distorts (as usual) a few things. Also, keep in mind Bango is practically a local there, he works there and gets paid in COP so the rules are a bit diff for him. Furthermore, his experience is based more on people in the capital. I would venture to say the coast is a bit different. I think the costeņas (and to a lesser extent caleņas & paisas) can be a bit more "grosera" or "inculta" and more expecting for the gringo to pay for stuff or the bf to pay for everything. Again, these are stereotypes but there are some noticeable tendencies while one's personal experience can be a bit different.
I would also say class plays into this. My speculation is that quite a number of girls in estrata 3-4 (but especially in my experience 3, LOL!) can be a bit "aspirational" and "pretentious" yet still shamelessly ask for lots of stuff, go figure. Whereas those who are poorer actually have a combination of pride and shame that inhibits them from always being annoying asking for freebies or just plain leeching off the gringo / bf.[/QUOTE]I'll be the first to admit that. Costeņas are the most materialistic girls in the whole country, they are famous for that wherever you go here. Actually most non-costeņo Colombians won't even give the time of day to a costeņa, even a stunner, for this reason and others.
I make a point of making it clear to any potential new prospect for pussy that I already have a gf, I work here, make COP and have NO intention of leaving, that I can't stand the USA and only go there to see my kids. That chases off the vast majority of the gold-diggers from jump.
Another big pitfall is the people who just want to brag to people they have a foreigner in their circle of friends, and try to make friends with you just for this purpose.
Especially since I've now got a steady gf, I just go straight for the sex with any new girl who talks to me, unless there's a potential business relationship or some other serious common interest that would warrant a genuine friendship.
[QUOTE=Phunluv; 1193828]Ok fellas, here's the deal with those cupido sites, at least from my experience.
It's just a social tool in your kit, if you're totally relying on it, you're going to run into frustration. I've actually met a bunch of nice non-pros through these sites, but most of those girls will require lots of work and time to bed them. Time that you probably don't have. Still, it's nice to have a non-pro "tour guide" that you can take on outings or evening dates and never worry about the local guys thinking she's a prepaga; even if she's not the hottest thing around, that's a nice advantage, makes me feel more secure and relaxed in social outings with the locals I know.
I think it's getting harder nowadays though because the good girls have gotten scared away. One girl I've dated through the CC site (and still keep in contact with) told me she's sworn off all those sites because she keeps getting crazy propositions from the guys almost right off the bat. I'm sure she's not the only one who feels that way. Thus the sites become a self-selecting forum for prepagas and the guys who are looking for p4p.
So over time, a number of the "good girls" or even some of the "party-type" non-pros who still think themselves above the prepagas (this is Colombia remember, lots of social bs and pettiness) have left out of frustration, fear, or just plain sick and tired of all the propositions.[/QUOTE]Phunluv your experience is the closest one that mirrors my own. Except I must add that 9 times out of 10 I am fucking mine on the first time. I can't count on one hand the times I have not. I have been signing up on the site for 3 months every year since August 2005. If there are that many hookers and gold diggers on the site as most of these guy are saying, then I never encounter them. I was even in the DR last week and a friend of mine who lives there said that every girl he meets on the site has asked him for money. I was dumbfounded. That has been the complete opposite of my experience for the past 6 years. As a matter of fact a Dominican girl chewed me out the other day because I offered to pay for the babysitter when she came 3 hours from her house to visit me.
Her: TENDRE QUE BUSCAR UNA BABY SYRY PARA QUE ME CUYDE A MY HYJA (I have to find someone to watch my daughter)
Me: solo dejame saber cuanto cuesta (just let me know how much it costs)
Her: NO YO NO QUYERO NADA YO NO SOY DE ESA CLASE DE MUJER (No. I don't want anything. I am not that type of woman.)
Me: que clase? (What type?)
Her: ME OFENDE YO NO SOY ASY (I'm offended. I am not like that.)
Her: MY AMOR NO TE PREOCUPES YO TRABAJO YO TENGO DYNERO (Baby. Don't worry. I work. I have money.)
[QUOTE=John Gault;1193440]First off forget these dating sites as they are mostly Pros who will charge you plenty of money. Stop worrying about getting hooked up. As soon as you arrive in Colombia go straight to the Casas, and street girls. You will get all the sexo you want for a big discount over what you would pay those pros on those sites. Sure there are some non pros on CC, but it is not worth the trouble to sort it out. If non pros are your bag then wait till your in country, and then go to the normal spots to meet girls. If you have some Spanish, and are not bad looking you will will have some luck. Oh yeah almost forgot. You will need a little charm also.[/QUOTE]This response is golden.
[QUOTE=; 1193826]Bango, I'm thinking that there is a basic flaw in your opinion. Women complain about how unfair it is that men are called studs when they sleep around, yet women get called sluts for the exact same behavior. It's actually not a double standard though, because both scenarios are pretty different in terms of circumstances and consequences. I can think of at least four crucial differences:
First, sleeping around is easier for women. Regardless of how you feel about promiscuity, we can all agree that a guy who manages to rack up a lot of sexual partners has to have some skills. It's challenging for men to rack up partners, even for men with low standards. A man needs social intelligence, interpersonal skills, persistence, thick skin, and plain old dumb luck. For women, though, a vagina and a pulse is often enough. Whenever an accomplishment requires absolutely no challenge, no one respects it. It's just viewed as a lack of self-discipline. People respect those who accomplish challenging feats, while they consider those who overindulge in easily obtained feats as weak, untrustworthy or flawed.[/QUOTE]I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think this is a deep universal NATURAL truth. I think it's a CULTURAL truth, and thus it varies from culture to culture. Nature is far far FAR stronger than culture.
Here in Colombia you can be stupid broke and a bad conversationalist, but if you're drop dead gorgeous AS A MALE you will get pussy.
Ultimately physical attractiveness is your chief playing card in getting "non-pros" (really meaning getting it without paying for it directly AND indirectly) ANYWHERE in the world. And there are some absolute physical standards that are not dependent on culture as well. Ask the ancient Greeks.
Women are only so hard to get because of the stupid fucked up philosophies we put into practice in our daily lives, byproducts of our rotten deformed and unhealthy religions and other cultural institutions. In the natural world both men and women have easy access to each other!
I really am starting to think we were better off in the Paleo era without all this garbage of "civilization".
[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1193489]I agree with most written here. But I take issue with the percentage of putas to regular girls on those sites CC and LAC. It's more like 90% if not higher. Just offer some money for them to come to your hotel, tell them you are looking for a tour giude and novia for your vacation. They all take the money even after saying "no soy prepago". Most say that. Then ask if they have any friends interested in making money."pago bien, claro" ("I pay good money for sure") and before you know it the friends are out of the picture and she is sending you her info so that you can rendezvous.[/QUOTE]That is precisely why these dating sites have turned to shit. Gringos keep offering girls money as soon as they start talking. Even if they are not prepagos, pretty soon after a couple of times and if somehow something happens in their life and they need money. What do you know. A regular girl just turned into a prepago! There are still some regular girls but it's getting fewer and far between. Dating sites are not the way to get regular girls anymore.
Of course there are a lot of prepagos and gold-diggers on these sites. I would though like to say that I have found several honest and goodlooking girls on Colombian Cupid. But one have to be patient and accept those problems that has been mentioned. CC I find useful for finding female friends since I 'm learing spanish and for every trip it gets better and during my last trip I could participate really well in my colombian friends conversations.
I find Romancelatina, Amolatina, Colombian Sweethearts and several others to be fraud. In some cases the sites themseves are rip-off. In some cases, as Romancelatina, practically all the girls are prepagos.
Even if CC have a lot of prepagos / gold-diggers it is still a good site, considering the circumstances. And one have to be realistic. Maybe a medium goodlooking girlfriend is what you can get. The art of the game is then to keep your visits to prepagos / casas totally separate from your ordinary female friends.
Just my 3 cents.
These are some things I cannot live without and bring with me over the many years traveling there!
In no particular order:
Condoms, I hate those thick Colombian Today condoms, I like my Kimonos.
Power strips and extension cords, there are never enough power outlets to plug in all of today's electronics in Colombia.. and instead of shit plugged in all over the place, I like all my shit consolidated.
A fan, Yes i travel with a small fan and it comes in handy with NO AC especially in MDE, people say you dont need AC or a FAN in MDE, I say on most days for me that's BS, I like a breeze all the time.
Cialis: There is no generic Cialis and they are like 25k each, so I bring like 10 packs of LA PELA, lol
No LAPTOP, Now all I bring is an IPAD, does everything I need to do and I can leave my business shit separate. Love putting in my earbuds and getting lost on the plane. Plus no nosy novias going through your shit.
Antacid and Aspirin: Waking up with guyabo sucks but waking up with guayabo and heartburn from the cialis and rum is MUCH WORSE!!
Cables and Cords: Dont forget all of the cables and cords and chargers belonging to all of your electronics, Including your cell phones chargers and battery charger for your digital camera.
Memory Cards: I bring at least 6 of them, some for family, novia and friends and the other for mongering purposes. YOU KNOW how much your novia and all girls love looking at all of the pics and vids on your camera. Can you imagine forgetting the wrong memory card in your camera??
Update your IPOD: These girls love the latest music and it will really get them in the mood to dance and get busy. Have the good new shit in your IPOD
Have a good pair of portable speakers: For those late night encounters and dancing!!
Have your little black book: Keep it updated and hidden, lol
Have some nice clothes and dress shirts: Common guys, don't be a walmart gringo!
Digital Color copy of your PASSPORT: I have 2 really nice copies of my passport I take everywhere I go! The original goes right into the safe!
Credit Cards: Call ALL of your credit card companies and give them a "travel advisory" You don't want to get embarrassed when you least expect it right? Then trying to call the FRAUD DEPARTMENT at 4am from a Colombian cell, lol!
Colombian cell: I have 2 of them, One for my novia and one for the BANDIDAS that stays OFF! Imagine your second phone ringing because you forgot to turn it off, and your novia is over??? "Goose is cooked"
Ear Plugs and Eye Mask: I swear this sometimes is the most important thing for me on a trip, It can get noisy in Colombia and these are invaluable. Recharge those batteries.
Packing tape: I know this sounds funny but tape shut good all of those shampoos and creams in your suitcase or they WILL open and blow up all over your shit.
Extra $ store toothbrushes like 10 of them, I like to DFK special friends. I make them brush their teeth and they ain't using mines lol, fuck yeah I do!!
Regalitos: Some little gifts, nothing exorbitant of course, goes a long way! I pick up on sale decent shit from Walgreens and CVS.
I think that's it for now.. I will update as I go along..
Good suggestion. I bring quite similar, plus disinfectant wipes (hard to find in Co) , eau de toilet, instant coffee / capuccino I like, Peptobismo and antibiotic gel (though you can buy pills in Co).
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1194161]These are some things I cannot live without and bring with me over the many years traveling there![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1194161]These are some things I cannot live without and bring with me over the many years traveling there!.[/QUOTE]Well done.
I am still using some apps that can not work on Ipads so I am taking a longer 5m LAN cable for my 10" net book, some sleeping pills for the first few days to help me overcome the jet lag and 3-4m of light but strong string line in case I buy something that I have to tie better. Especially from the Far East.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1194225]Good suggestion. I bring quite similar, plus disinfectant wipes (hard to find in Co) , eau de toilet, instant coffee / capuccino I like, Peptobismo and antibiotic gel (though you can buy pills in Co).[/QUOTE]I never go anywhere without a pack of wipes. Comes in especially handy as bathrooms don't have TP or they charge for it here. You can buy a pack at Carrefour / Exito and many pharmacys, costs like 1100 or something, cheaper than in the US.
I use the extra-sensible "M" brand condoms, the ones in the white pack. I've never tried Kimonos but they're much better than the "todays". The Dexex aren't bad either, but I prefer the "M". They also have "condones de tarjeta" here which come in a card-sized pack and have little packs of lube that are separate. I don't like the condones de tarjeta, they irritate my tip. Some of my friends swear by them.
You shouldn't brush your teeth OR make your partner (s) brush THEIR teeth 45 minutes before playtime. It's an STD risk.
i have pretty much what you have plus this stuff, relize i go carry on only, mostly because of lost suitcases and speed.
8 suitcase locks.
bike cable to lock suitcases to bed.
pacsafe security backpack- too many times no room safe or letter openers.
milokie locking device for the room safe.
200 dollars in pesos from previous trip.
wad of 1 and 5 dollar bills, tips for porters, security, and such.
small post-it notes and plenty of pens, taking email and phone numbers on plane of chics lol.
extra unused prepaid phone sim cards from previous trips.
certified copy of birth certificate.
1 flash drive to copy pics off computer and hide from gf lol.
a few containers of orange tic tacs.
cock-lube flavored and i have no idea what it tastes like.
small cans axe body spray that are under tsa size limit that go in quart sized zip lock.
extra zip lock bags for keeping things dry.
under belt hidden money belt.
charcoal pills.
tylenol pm.
skype phone, yes i have the app but need extra privacy at times.
noise cancellation head phones.
ipod nano.
travel pillow hooked to outside of backpack.
2 cameras 1 waterproof floatable handle and extra batteries.
strawberry licorice i watched 2 kids pull out their stash and start chucking theirs one day so now i do the same.
2 pairs sunglasses.
universal battery charger for cell phones and cameras.
in cartagena add large 40 can cooler, football, sun block, flip flops, tennis shoes,a small pac safe fannie pack, shorts beach and dress.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1194016]That is precisely why these dating sites have turned to shit. Gringos keep offering girls money as soon as they start talking. Even if they are not prepagos, pretty soon after a couple of times and if somehow something happens in their life and they need money. What do you know. A regular girl just turned into a prepago! There are still some regular girls but it's getting fewer and far between. Dating sites are not the way to get regular girls anymore.[/QUOTE]I was just be*tching in the Bangkok thread yesterday. A guy said he met a girl on tagged, they fucked, and he gave her US$50 for a "taxi" without her even asking. First of all you can get from one end of Bangkok to the other in a taxi for $4. Guys in the Philippines keep doing the same shit. I just don't understand why guys keep trying to money to women they meet on dating sites.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1194016]That is precisely why these dating sites have turned to shit. Gringos keep offering girls money as soon as they start talking. Even if they are not prepagos, pretty soon after a couple of times and if somehow something happens in their life and they need money. What do you know. A regular girl just turned into a prepago! There are still some regular girls but it's getting fewer and far between. Dating sites are not the way to get regular girls anymore.[/QUOTE]These sites have been inundated with pros since around 2008. Gringos offering money and buying gifts started first, in person, and this caused the women to hit the internet and flock to these sites over time. Some of these women are connnected all day long. A good amt of the girls are blatant pros, and the others reveal after a little time. Sorry but it is no secret. Most good girl no npros, non interesada no visa hunters just do't put themselves on the internet. This ain't the US.
My US buddies figured out they are mostly all pros in a week.
Put a profile with 2 pics that are pretty different but obviously you. Hide the uglier one. Send a stack of emails to all kinds of girls, all ages, ignore their age requirements. Mark them as favourites. Profile and email should be "serious relationship, tired of mentiras, looking for the real thing, looking to settle down, I'm a good guy treat women with respect, blah blah blah"
You will get some responses, sure.
After two weeks switch the photo to the uglier one and alter your profile and your mail to "I am coming to Colombia in a week, for a 1 week vacation, looking for a tour guide, someone fun who likes to go out and be romantic" you can even up your age by 5 years. Send to the same list of favourites.
You will get triple response for profile #2 and the girls who do respond will be the hotter ones. The response will be a phone number. Or an email address. You don't even need to ask for it. The same girls who blew you off two weeks earlier with the younge rlooming, younger aged proifle of "looking for a non pro real girl" will be ready to meet you now no questions asked.
Those girls go out with a different gringo every week. Ask them, they will tell you they have not met anyone (or they wil cop to one gringo once). Yet they have been on the site for 4 years.
Put up a slobby old man perv profile and get the same response as your good guy profile. Guess what? Your non pro looking for love,"No soy prepago" will go out with anyone, even your dog.
The CC and LAC sites are a joke for noobs looking for the real girl, non pro thrill. The 1 in 50 that are genuine are total flakes, tough nuts to crack and are not looking for a guy on a 1 week vacation. A waste of time unless you live here, speak the language and even then convincing them that you are not a monger is no easy task. They know better. Foreigner are sex tourists until proven otherwise thanks to Pirry's Sunday night show and countless foreigners here. Are you still going to plame bozos on a sex site because they offer money?
Another issue is that Medellin is loaded with charming foreigners in their late 20s early 30s who have game. The 40+ monger from Skokie just ain't the same anymore in the eyes of the non pros. The gringo boyfriend these days is actually a negative where some years ago it was fashionable.
Johnny Gault hits the nail on the head. Look at artitsyp's quote a few down. For people like us on this board who know better these sites are a frustrating crap shoot and a waste of time.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1194016]That is precisely why these dating sites have turned to shit. Gringos keep offering girls money as soon as they start talking. Even if they are not prepagos, pretty soon after a couple of times and if somehow something happens in their life and they need money. What do you know. A regular girl just turned into a prepago! There are still some regular girls but it's getting fewer and far between. Dating sites are not the way to get regular girls anymore.[/QUOTE]In this world there is no equality or fairness. If you are a person of some financial substance, and a girl from ANY place on this earth who is substantially less affluent than her amigo, novio, benefactor, or whatever label you want to put on in, but I don't think "provider" and "hobbiest" creates a true picture. My assumption is that the dudes that use the dating sites are looking for something other than just sex. There are no "regular" girls in Medellin that are available unless you fly in on your private jet. And without being too argumentative, ask your mama if she was a prepago because the old man gave her some gift before the nuptials. But I guess that is different. I just can't see any difference.
I digressed. If you can "help" in Colombian society, except at the very top of the socio-economic strata, it's expected. So, you gift a few green pieces of paper with dead president's pictures on them, and what do you get in return? Hopefully, some of the best sex you have ever had. One might ever find a slight degree of self satisfaction for having done a good thing. My view, I understand is different than others. I am evangelical about it because it brings. .
Only good energy!
P. S. I'm in Bs As now with my Colombian treasure. Bottom line, I love Medellin, but Bs As is special. It's the start of Spring, so the weather is perfect. I haven't had a meal here that hasn't been simply excellent. With some hesitation, I will state something that would be blasphemous to any fellow Texas. I had the best rib eye that I've even put a lip on. It is rightly called "The Paris of South America." Beautiful weather, great food, many interesting places, and the novelty of sex with a sweet and oh so willing Paisa in an exotic new place is too good to be true. I think I've died and gone to heaven. My Colombiana has to be back for her university classes on Wednesday. It's an all night flight, but she's young, and life is not fair. So long beautiful weather, great food, and interesting places, for the rest give me a to go box (put intended, Bango).
I am going to Barranquilla in a month, Oct11-Oct16. I read some posts on here that mentioned some great info as to what to take along with me. I didn't even consider taking a power strip to utilize one outlet for my cell to charge and laptop etc. Thanks for that heads up! I plan on taking my own shampoo etc. And securing those in ziplock bags in case they break.
I am curious most of all about how much money I should take with me and if I need to still carry US currency. When I get to the airport exit do I need to pay the taxi using peso's or can I just give us currency? I am not going to shop but to meet a girl I've talked to for the past 4 months and sightsee. We will spend most of the time in the room and doing things I want so what is an expected amount of money that I should bring? I was thinking around $400 american. Should I change it before I leave the US or change it at a bank near the hotel I am staying at? What sucks is that $50 US converts to like 89500 pesos but when I change it here I only get 75000 pesos.
Anybody with some tips or advice for my first trip would be greatly appreciated. I'm totally excited and nervous.
Thanks for the list of items you bring on your trips. I'm adding some to my list!
Speaking of bringing stuff. For all those that drink. Is it cheaper to bring your own liquor? Imported products are VERY expensive in Colombia. I don't remember how the prices for liquor at Exito compares to the US.
[QUOTE=Latin Lover77; 1194564]I am going to Barranquilla in a month, Oct11-Oct16. I read some posts on here that mentioned some great info as to what to take along with me. I didn't even consider taking a power strip to utilize one outlet for my cell to charge and laptop etc. Thanks for that heads up! I plan on taking my own shampoo etc. And securing those in ziplock bags in case they break.
I am curious most of all about how much money I should take with me and if I need to still carry US currency. When I get to the airport exit do I need to pay the taxi using peso's or can I just give us currency? I am not going to shop but to meet a girl I've talked to for the past 4 months and sightsee. We will spend most of the time in the room and doing things I want so what is an expected amount of money that I should bring? I was thinking around $400 american. Should I change it before I leave the US or change it at a bank near the hotel I am staying at? What sucks is that $50 US converts to like 89500 pesos but when I change it here I only get 75000 pesos.
Anybody with some tips or advice for my first trip would be greatly appreciated. I'm totally excited and nervous.[/QUOTE]
Pay for the taxi (pay for everything) in Colombian Pesos. I suggest you re-program your mind to think in COP as soon as you touch ground and until your board the plane to depart. Since you don't already have some COP with you from a prior trip, I'd hit the ATM at the airport upon arrival prior to hailing a taxi. If you plan on a return trip, be sure to take some pesos (for me 100-200 mil works) home with you (especially some smaller denominations) so that you'll have some with you next time (comes in very handy). I've never changed dollars for COP here in the States prior to a trip 'cause I always have some with me from the previous trip and also hit the ATM at the airport upon arrival in Colombia. If you're a guy who chooses not to use an ATM card, then I could see changing a small amount of dollars (say 20 to 40) to COP prior to your trip just to ensure that you have a few pesos in your pocket prior to hitting the ground. Otherwise just wait to change your dollars to COP after you hit the ground (oh the casa de cambio in the airport typically pays a little less than the others, but more than what you'd get from your USA bank back home).
When I was in CTG recently, the casa de cambio I checked in on was giving 1720 COP per $1 USD, while I received around 1770 (net of a built-in small translation fee; be advised that some USA banks charge a 3% or more fee each international usage) using my ATM card. I typically stick with the ATM machines for getting COP's since I personally prefer not to carry much in USD on my person when traveling. I do always take some USD in case of emergency and to have with me upon my return. I also take more than one ATM card and a credit card as back-up. They all remain in the room safe except when / unless needed.
To me one of the most crucial things mentioned by others below is to make a couple color copies of your passport and to leave your passport in your room safe from the time of your arrival until you go to depart. When outside the apt / room, I carry one color copy with me at all times; the other is a back-up.
How much should you take with you or budget for your trip? I haven't a clue; we all have different tastes, spending habits, etc. If I were you, I'd try to back into it by breaking it down into categories such as alcohol, creepy, food, snacks, restaurants and entertainment, P4P (she may be on the rag or not put out as much as you'd like) , etc, etc. Departmentalize / categorize and then add-up the parts to arrive at your whole, then add a cushion and have some back-up just-in-case.
One last thought, if you haven't already purchased your airline tickets, I'd strongly consider three things: staying a little longer; chatting-up a 2nd and 3rd chica between now and then; and leaving open the possibility of spending a night or two in CTG prior to your departure just in case the girl you're going to see ends-up giving you a severe case of the blue balls. She'll probably make the love to you like never before, but when in Colombia I think you'll find that back-up plans and having / leaving room for flexibility are your dear friend. Actually, not planning too much in advance and having a great deal of flexibility to go with the flow while there is the probably the best advice I can give. I'd caution you about boxing yourself into a bunch of advance set plans with any one or more chicas.
Having more than one chica's cell number and the flexibility of not being committed to too many set plans will serve you well.
Have a blast!
HT
[QUOTE=Latin Lover77; 1194564]I am going to Barranquilla in a month, Oct11-Oct16. I read some posts on here that mentioned some great info as to what to take along with me. I didn't even consider taking a power strip to utilize one outlet for my cell to charge and laptop etc. Thanks for that heads up! I plan on taking my own shampoo etc. And securing those in ziplock bags in case they break.
I am curious most of all about how much money I should take with me and if I need to still carry US currency. When I get to the airport exit do I need to pay the taxi using peso's or can I just give us currency? I am not going to shop but to meet a girl I've talked to for the past 4 months and sightsee. We will spend most of the time in the room and doing things I want so what is an expected amount of money that I should bring? I was thinking around $400 american. Should I change it before I leave the US or change it at a bank near the hotel I am staying at? What sucks is that $50 US converts to like 89500 pesos but when I change it here I only get 75000 pesos.
Anybody with some tips or advice for my first trip would be greatly appreciated. I'm totally excited and nervous.[/QUOTE]What do you plan on paying for your five nights in your hotel? This will be your major expense if you are staying in a nice hotel. The $400 could be almost killed right then and there.
Sounds like the girl will be with you a lot of the time. That means your food bill is at the very least double than if you were solo.
Don't change your money in the USA. Use a ATM card for pesos, and also have a cash back up if you have trouble with your ATM card. Myself I always have four different ATM cards plus a cash backup, That may sound like overkill, but I have never had to call the USA, and beg for someone to send me money.
To the point, the $400 is cutting it close but possible if you don't include your hotel bill. PM me for a good hotel for around $45.
You can pay for the taxi in pesos or dollars, but it is always better to pay in local currency.
Have fun, and if the girl does not meet your expectations there is always P4P in BAQ.
[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1194584]Thanks for the list of items you bring on your trips. I'm adding some to my list!
Speaking of bringing stuff. For all those that drink. Is it cheaper to bring your own liquor? Imported products are VERY expensive in Colombia. I don't remember how the prices for liquor at Exito compares to the US.[/QUOTE]Goes without saying for alot of you, but yea I forgot I get 2 bottles at Duty Free even though I don't drink liquor. I get one bottle Malibu Rum and one bottle Absolute Vodka, especially in CTG inviting chics back to apartment for a party is always good to have some liquor. Whatever I have left in Cartagena I buy cups and ice and share it with Tony, his employees and all the other beach touts on my last day. I had Tony so fucking drunk he couldn't walk or speak more than once and crying like a baby. LOL
[QUOTE=Latin Lover77; 1194564]I am curious most of all about how much money I should take with me and if I need to still carry US currency. When I get to the airport exit do I need to pay the taxi using peso's or can I just give us currency? I am not going to shop but to meet a girl I've talked to for the past 4 months and sightsee. We will spend most of the time in the room and doing things I want so what is an expected amount of money that I should bring? I was thinking around $400 american. Should I change it before I leave the US or change it at a bank near the hotel I am staying at? What sucks is that $50 US converts to like 89500 pesos but when I change it here I only get 75000 pesos.
Anybody with some tips or advice for my first trip would be greatly appreciated. I'm totally excited and nervous.[/QUOTE]NEVER change money in the USA. The rate is always much lower plus they hit you with fees and stuff. Just take your ATM card and get money from the machines.
NEVER attempt to pay people in countries outside of the USA in dollars (unless it is a country such as Panama that uses dollars as their currency.) You are just going to rip yourself off.
I wouldn't think you were going to shop because there is nothing to shop for. Sight see? LOL. There is nothing to sight see either. I think you are making a big mistake. You just better hope this girl even shows up.
Oh and don't forget that hotels in Colombia charge per person not per room. So if you get a room for one person at $45, the same room could be from $60 - $90 if two people stay in it.
For all of you Western Union Novios, Dia de Amor y Amistad (Colombian Valentines Day, It is a HUGE HUGE deal for them!) is September 17th. So maybe yo would like to change it up a little and get your "novias" something different and more personal instead of the usual wire transfer?
This place has nice gifts, is reliable and delivers door to door. Believe me next time you see your "novia" she won't forget it and will just about guarantee you some good nookie! Je je.
ANYBODY ELSE have some links they want to share?
[url]www.1vende.com[/url]
oh and P.S. YES she WILL expect something from you on Feb 14th as well!
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1195231]For all of you Western Union Novios, Dia de Amor y Amistad (Colombian Valentines Day, It is a HUGE HUGE deal for them!) is September 17th. So maybe yo would like to change it up a little and get your "novias" something different and more personal instead of the usual wire transfer?[/QUOTE]Good reminder Heat, thanks amigo!
Well, I just got back from a 2-week Cali, then Sao Paulo, Brazil run.
PART 1, CALI: Girlfriend time
I spent about a week or so in Cali and for the first time ever in Colombia, I decided I was only going to be with one girl on this trip, my long time girlfriend there of almost 5 years.
I met her when she was 18 and she just keeps getting better.
Anyway, we hung out together practically the whole time in Cali. She's one of those fun, sweet girls who you can just be with and they don't bug ya.
Between exploring, boating, fishing, partying, dancing (I try jajaja) , movies, walks, family, malls, swimming, lounging, etc, etc, and of course bailando en la cama, I had the best time I've ever had in Colombia, really.
I have to say, I stopped by one day at Dr Amor, as I happened to be walking by there, by myself.
I know the guys and lady managers that run the place, said my holas, and sat on one of the sofas for the presentations of the chicas.
Man that place has lots of chicas, I think there was about 40 of them that day.
Anyway, of course there was a little hottie I liked, and I took her to the more private area were you can talk with them a bit.
I have to say I was tempted, she was pretty cute, but again my girlfriend was just a couple blocks away, waiting patiently for me.
I had to make a decision; jump in the sack with this chica for a qucikie, or stick to my vow and go have great GF love with my girl waiting. I chose the latter, giving the little cutie from Dr Amor a little propina for her time and leaving for my girlfriend.
Great decision, as of course she gives me the real love sex as opposed to the boom boom, see ya sex.
Anyway, I had a great time in Cali, seeing the city and it's outlying areas in a different light and not just chasing tail.
It's nice to be with a girl who you know is really into you and not just looking for your loot.
PART 2, SP BRAZIL: Fun
Well I know SP very well, and I don't want to give a full Brazil report here on the Colombian forum, but let me tell you my general observations.
I believe the Colombianas to be the hottest looking chicas on the planet (well maybe tied with the Venezolanas, but of course that country is dicked up at the moment), but let me tell ya, you just cannot beat the Brasileiras for pure sexual energy, they are a special breed for sure.
In Cali I was the monogamous lover, in Brasil my phone was ringing off the hook as I have cultivated many friendships there over the years.
There is an area I visit in Brazil, away from tourists, that is similar to a Mayorista in Medellin, however, (John Gault please close your eyes and visualize this), instead of maybe 80-90 percent Fuglyies like at the Mayo, this place is more like 80 percent hot, which makes it very difficult to select. Sometimes I wish I were more than one guy so I could have more fun in one day, no kidding.
To make it even better, I think I'm the only gringo these girls have ever seen.
I'm like a celebrity haha.
Away from Rio or SP, this place, at least for now, is Ricker's hideaway.
I'm sure some Gringo will eventually discover this place and post about it and Frank Cassio will buy an apartment there haha, but for now it's a treasure.
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1195247]Anyway, of course there was a little hottie I liked, and I took her to the more private area were you can talk with them a bit.
I have to say I was tempted, she was pretty cute, but again my girlfriend was just a couple blocks away, waiting patiently for me.
I had to make a decision; jump in the sack with this chica for a qucikie, or stick to my vow and go have great GF love with my girl waiting. I chose the latter, giving the little cutie from Dr Amor a little propina for her time and leaving for my girlfriend.
Great decision, as of course she gives me the real love sex as opposed to the boom boom, see ya sex.[/QUOTE]Ricker, I couldn't agree with you more. But, I'm reminded of the old commercial for the Almond Joy candy."Some times you want a nut, and sometimes you don't." Like my old grand pa once told me."Boy, I don't care how good looking she is, there's some dude that gets tired of fucking just her." Or, put another way, you may have a Ferrari, but that doesn't mean you don't like to take another car for a little spin on occasion. We will all agree that there is nothing better than sex with someone you love and vice versa.
Just when you thought that they had gouged enough they still are ripping off customers. The latest thing they pulled off was to change the Free Spirit card from Barclays to Bank of America. This was after I paid the $79. 95 fee to Barclays. Now I had to pay a new fee to BOA. OK that was done a few months ago. So today I go online to pay for my bags for my upcoming adventure. The site will not let me get the $9 fare club price for my bags. I was automaticly a member of the $9 fare club with the Barclay card. So after mucho minutes on hold I am now told that the BOA card does not come with the comp. Fare Club. So another $59. 95 down the drain into Spirit's coffers.
Yeah I know if I don't like it then fly with someone else. Trouble is I live near the ACY airport, and Spirit is the only one going to Latin America from that location.
I'm really starting to see the advantage of being an Expat. Less dealing with these Fucks.
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1195247]Well, I just got back from a 2-week Cali, then Sao Paulo, Brazil run.
PART 1, CALI: Girlfriend time.
I spent about a week or so in Cali and for the first time ever in Colombia, I decided I was only going to be with one girl on this trip, my long time girlfriend there of almost 5 years.
I met her when she was 18 and she just keeps getting better.
Anyway, we hung out together practically the whole time in Cali. She's one of those fun, sweet girls who you can just be with and they don't bug ya.
Between exploring, boating, fishing, partying, dancing (I try jajaja) , movies, walks, family, malls, swimming, lounging, etc, etc, and of course bailando en la cama, I had the best time I've ever had in Colombia, really.
I have to say, I stopped by one day at Dr Amor, as I happened to be walking by there, by myself.
I know the guys and lady managers that run the place, said my holas, and sat on one of the sofas for the presentations of the chicas.
Man that place has lots of chicas, I think there was about 40 of them that day.
Anyway, of course there was a little hottie I liked, and I took her to the more private area were you can talk with them a bit.
I have to say I was tempted, she was pretty cute, but again my girlfriend was just a couple blocks away, waiting patiently for me.
I had to make a decision; jump in the sack with this chica for a qucikie, or stick to my vow and go have great GF love with my girl waiting. I chose the latter, giving the little cutie from Dr Amor a little propina for her time and leaving for my girlfriend.
Great decision, as of course she gives me the real love sex as opposed to the boom boom, see ya sex.
Anyway, I had a great time in Cali, seeing the city and it's outlying areas in a different light and not just chasing tail.
It's nice to be with a girl who you know is really into you and not just looking for your loot.
PART 2, SP BRAZIL: Fun.
Well I know SP very well, and I don't want to give a full Brazil report here on the Colombian forum, but let me tell you my general observations.
I believe the Colombianas to be the hottest looking chicas on the planet (well maybe tied with the Venezolanas, but of course that country is dicked up at the moment) , but let me tell ya, you just cannot beat the Brasileiras for pure sexual energy, they are a special breed for sure.
In Cali I was the monogamous lover, in Brasil my phone was ringing off the hook as I have cultivated many friendships there over the years.
There is an area I visit in Brazil, away from tourists, that is similar to a Mayorista in Medellin, however, (John Gault please close your eyes and visualize this) , instead of maybe 80-90 percent Fuglyies like at the Mayo, this place is more like 80 percent hot, which makes it very difficult to select. Sometimes I wish I were more than one guy so I could have more fun in one day, no kidding.
To make it even better, I think I'm the only gringo these girls have ever seen.
I'm like a celebrity haha.
Away from Rio or SP, this place, at least for now, is Ricker's hideaway.
I'm sure some Gringo will eventually discover this place and post about it and Frank Cassio will buy an apartment there haha, but for now it's a treasure.[/QUOTE]As I visualize this my fucking Tongue Is hanging out. I advise you not to come to MDE next week. If I see you I will kidnap you. We have ways to make you talk. LOL
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1195298]Just when you thought that they had gouged enough they still are ripping off customers.
[B]I'm really starting to see the advantage of being an Expat. Less dealing with these Fucks[/B].[/QUOTE]I got to couch with your name on it.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1195298]Just when you thought that they had gouged enough they still are ripping off customers. The latest thing they pulled off was to change the Free Spirit card from Barclays to Bank of America. This was after I paid the $79. 95 fee to Barclays. Now I had to pay a new fee to BOA. OK that was done a few months ago. So today I go online to pay for my bags for my upcoming adventure. The site will not let me get the $9 fare club price for my bags. I was automaticly a member of the $9 fare club with the Barclay card. So after mucho minutes on hold I am now told that the BOA card does not come with the comp. Fare Club. So another $59. 95 down the drain into Spirit's coffers.
Yeah I know if I don't like it then fly with someone else. Trouble is I live near the ACY airport, and Spirit is the only one going to Latin America from that location.
I'm really starting to see the advantage of being an Expat. Less dealing with these Fucks.[/QUOTE]Are you serious? The Balls on those CHUMPS! I hate Spirit after 1 and only flight! Sorry to hear that. Do what you gots to do. Oh and Bogota Traffic blows. And don't let your novia find a single hair in your hotel or apartment; it'll be a bloody war!
[QUOTE=John Gault;1195310]As I visualize this my fucking Tongue Is hanging out. I advise you not to come to MDE next week. If I see you I will kidnap you. We have ways to make you talk. LOL[/QUOTE]Looks like a visit to Medellin at the end of Sept into October for me, hopefully I'll avoid the torture hahaha
Ya never know, over a cerveza or so, I may just let some select guys, sworn to secrecy, in on the Brazillian treasure :)
Check out this funny email I got from my Paisa girlfriend while I was in Cali and told her I couldn't make it to Medellin:
... YO ME QUEDE MUY TRISTE POR NO HABERNOS VISTO, ADEMAS TU TE QUEDASTE MUCHOS DIAS EN COLOMBIA Y DEMAS QUE CONOCISTE OTRA MUJER Y LE DISTES MIS REGALOS ...
Basically, she's sad that we didn't see eachother, I stayed lots of days in Colombia, and maybe I met another woman and gave her gifts to the other woman.
Funny, funny.
I think this Paisa may just love me for the loot ($$) eh, haha, but she's pretty hot so I keep her in the rotation, hahaha.
It's all cool as long as you got your eyes open.
Take care amigos.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1195231]For all of you Western Union Novios .[/QUOTE]By the way Heat, you just went over 1000 posts.
You're spending way too much time on this site hahaha.
Happy 1000!!! :)
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1195473]By the way Heat, you just went over 1000 posts.
You're spending way too much time on this site hahaha.
Happy 1000! .[/QUOTE]Me? Spending too much time on here, hey buddy I have. point 49 posts per day as apposed to your point 64 posts per day papa! Hahahaha LOL. Thanks for the nice words and almost 6 years of friendship. P. S. I have exactly the same experience as you in CALI word for word were I almost feel "guilty?" going to casas? (blasphemy) LOL. Maybe we should retire get out of the game and hang up our condoms? Are we getting that old now LOL? Anyways kind of like you in CALI, for me Colombia in the beginning was 95% putas and the other 5% trying to hook up with the regular chicas. NOW? I can honestly say its the other way around.
Speaking of a nice Bush there is a scene where
George Clooney's leading lady comes out of a stream with a pair of wet pants that is the most sexy scene in all the movies I have ever watched.
This was a 2010 movie called the 'The American'. It was just on cable. Not a great flim, but that one scene is worth the price of admission.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1195298]Just when you thought that they had gouged enough they still are ripping off customers. The latest thing they pulled off was to change the Free Spirit card from Barclays to Bank of America. This was after I paid the $79. 95 fee to Barclays. Now I had to pay a new fee to BOA. OK that was done a few months ago. So today I go online to pay for my bags for my upcoming adventure. The site will not let me get the $9 fare club price for my bags. I was automaticly a member of the $9 fare club with the Barclay card. So after mucho minutes on hold I am now told that the BOA card does not come with the comp. Fare Club. So another $59. 95 down the drain into Spirit's coffers.
Yeah I know if I don't like it then fly with someone else. Trouble is I live near the ACY airport, and Spirit is the only one going to Latin America from that location.
I'm really starting to see the advantage of being an Expat. Less dealing with these Fucks.[/QUOTE]I was able to transfer over with no additional charge, kept my miles and everything, no problems. Maybe they learned from their mistakes?
[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1194658]One last thought, if you haven't already purchased your airline tickets, I'd strongly consider three things: staying a little longer; chatting-up a 2nd and 3rd chica between now and then; and leaving open the possibility of spending a night or two in CTG prior to your departure just in case the girl you're going to see ends-up giving you a severe case of the blue balls. She'll probably make the love to you like never before, but when in Colombia I think you'll find that back-up plans and having / leaving room for flexibility are your dear friend. Actually, not planning too much in advance and having a great deal of flexibility to go with the flow while there is the probably the best advice I can give. I'd caution you about boxing yourself into a bunch of advance set plans with any one or more chicas.
Having more than one chica's cell number and the flexibility of not being committed to too many set plans will serve you well.
Have a blast!
HT[/QUOTE]
Best advice you'll ever get right here. Be ready to be flexible, and remember everything you're planning to do will take twice as long simply because you're in Colombia.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1195231]For all of you Western Union Novios, Dia de Amor why Amistad (Colombian Valentines Day, It is a HUGE HUGE deal for them!) is September 17th. So maybe yo would like to change it up a little and get your "novias" something different and more personal instead of the usual wire transfer?
This place has nice gifts, is reliable and delivers door to door. Believe me next time you see your "novia" she won't forget it and will just about guarantee you some good nookie! Je je.
ANYBODY ELSE have some links they want to share?
[url]www.1vende.com[/url]
Oh and P. S. YES she WILL expect something from you on Feb 14th as well![/QUOTE]I have used DaFlores before. They're only flowers but they are reliable and solid. I think they prices are a bit cheaper too.
In planning to visit the Monteria area I did a quick search to see how things are.
[url]http://www.elmeridianodecordoba.com.co/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14684:seis-muertos-en-cordoba&catid=16:judicial&Itemid=13[/url]
Looks like I will be steering clear of Cordoba.
You just have to make sure you are not in the way of the bullet.
[url]http://cordobaparaelmundo.com/[/url]
Check out these guys for an eco-viaje down the Río Sinú.
Most of the time I post trip reports or add info to other posts. Lately I have been responding to posts that clearly are made either in jest or with no real knowledge of the subject they are reporting on. To me this is not good. I wonder how it feeds a ego to pretend to know a subject when to anyone who has been there knows the post is BS.
This Forum provides good benifit to it's members only when truth be told.
Anyone know the amount of cartons of cigarettes that can be brought back to the USA without charge.
[QUOTE=John Gault;1199635]Anyone know the amount of cartons of cigarettes that can be brought back to the USA without charge.[/QUOTE]
JG, here's a copy-and-paste from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection web site:
Traveler bringing tobacco products (cigarettes, cigars, bidis, etc.) to the USA for their personal use.
A traveler may include up to 100 cigars and 200 cigarettes in the $800 exemption from duty. USA residents on State Department-licensed travel to Cuba may not bring cigars or other goods back with them from their visit.
Additional cigars and cigarettes may be brought into the country, but they will be subject to duty and taxes. Cigarettes may also be subject to a tax imposed by state and local authorities. Bidis. Essentially flavored cigarettes. Are not generally permitted entry. For pipe / loose tobacco products, contact the port of entry directly.
Once every 31 days, a resident returning from travel from American Samoa, Guam, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI) , or the Virgin Islands of the United States may import 1, 000 cigarettes (5 cartons) , not more than 200 of which acquired elsewhere than in such locations, within the returning resident's $1, 600 exemption from duty and taxes.
For information about duty-exemption or duty rates for other tobacco products, please contact the port of entry directly.
[url]https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/53/kw/cigarettes/sno/1[/url]
[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1199669]JG, here's a copy-and-paste from the USA Customs and Border Protection web site:
Traveler bringing tobacco products (cigarettes, cigars, bidis, etc.) to the USA for their personal use.
A traveler may include up to 100 cigars and 200 cigarettes in the $800 exemption from duty. USA residents on State Department-licensed travel to Cuba may not bring cigars or other goods back with them from their visit.
Additional cigars and cigarettes may be brought into the country, but they will be subject to duty and taxes. Cigarettes may also be subject to a tax imposed by state and local authorities. Bidis. Essentially flavored cigarettes. Are not generally permitted entry. For pipe / loose tobacco products, contact the port of entry directly.
Once every 31 days, a resident returning from travel from American Samoa, Guam, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI) , or the Virgin Islands of the United States may import 1, 000 cigarettes (5 cartons) , not more than 200 of which acquired elsewhere than in such locations, within the returning resident's $1, 600 exemption from duty and taxes.
For information about duty-exemption or duty rates for other tobacco products, please contact the port of entry directly.
[url]https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/53/kw/cigarettes/sno/1[/url][/QUOTE]Thank you HT.
What I 'm going to say is not new, but I got a real good taste of it last night.
I'm in MDE as I write this after a terrible night last night in Mayorista. Rain as usual here, but had a blackout which really put a damper on mongering. The lights were on when I made a last ditch effort to find a good girl at 2 AM. What I found instead was a table of four Gringos. Come to find out they were all young guys in a total group of nine fellows all from the New Jersey area. These four guys were really nice fellows. I had a long chat with them, and it was like talking to kids on their first trip to Disney Land. There was a lot of Wow, , and gee wiz, and a general feeling of they had found heaven in Colombia. So it got me to thinking how these nine guys will go home, and tell thier friends how great Colombia is, and how it was safe for them.
We all know this is happening in Colombia with the flood of Newbes spreading the word to all their friends.
So I have made my decision. Time for me to pack my tack, and move on to greener pastures. No more Colombia for me as it it so sad to see this Country become another Costa Rica.
Where are they staying? Just curious.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1200799]What I 'm going to say is not new, but I got a real good taste of it last night.
I'm in MDE as I write this after a terrible night last night in Mayorista. Rain as usual here, but had a blackout which really put a damper on mongering. The lights were on when I made a last ditch effort to find a good girl at 2 AM. What I found instead was a table of four Gringos. Come to find out they were all young guys in a total group of nine fellows all from the New Jersey area. These four guys were really nice fellows. I had a long chat with them, and it was like talking to kids on their first trip to Disney Land. There was a lot of Wow, , and gee wiz, and a general feeling of they had found heaven in Colombia. So it got me to thinking how these nine guys will go home, and tell thier friends how great Colombia is, and how it was safe for them.
We all know this is happening in Colombia with the flood of Newbes spreading the word to all their friends.
So I have made my decision. Time for me to pack my tack, and move on to greener pastures. No more Colombia for me as it it so sad to see this Country become another Costa Rica.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lmarcone;1200806]Where are they staying? Just curious.[/QUOTE]They told me they were staying in Laureles. John of Penthouse fame hooked them up.
I was a little drunk when I talked to them but pretty sure they are leaving today.
[QUOTE=John Gault;1200799]So I have made my decision. Time for me to pack my tack, and move on to greener pastures. No more Colombia for me as it it so sad to see this Country become another Costa Rica.[/QUOTE]Colombia is a big country with much to explore. Lots of towns (some which have ISG threads, most which don't) where I go into the local titty establishments, and they'll tell me I'm the first gringo there in 2 years. Maybe Medellin is being overrun with tourists; I don't know, as it has been off my personal itinerary for years (I don't consider it one of the better cities in that country). But Colombia is huge and incredibly diverse, and has so much more to offer than just Medellin. Your loss.
I'm going to sign up and I'm one of the experiment airports. See if we can move things along a little.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/04/travel/trusted-traveler-program/index.html
(CNN). The Transportation Security Administration on Tuesday will unveil a "trusted traveler" program. One meant to expedite screening at USA airport checkpoints, agency chief John Pistole said.
"As with any initiative, we are testing this pre-screening concept with a small passenger population at limited airports," he said at an aviation security conference in the Netherlands."If proven successful, we will explore expanding the program to additional travelers, airports and airlines."
All participants must be USA citizens, who voluntarily release certain information about themselves.
During its evaluation phase,"TSA PreCheck" will be available only to certain frequent fliers on American and Delta airlines. Flying out of certain airports. Delta passengers must be flying out of Atlanta and Detroit airports, and American Airlines passengers must be flying out of Miami and Dallas airports.
It also will be open to participants in Custom and Border Protection's Trusted Traveler programs, including Global Entry, SENTRI, and NEXUS.
The program won't guarantee expedited security screening, according to Pistole, who said participants would still be subject to "random and unpredictable security measures."
In July, the TSA said it would expand this pilot program to include United, Southwest, JetBlue, US Airways, Alaska Airlines and Hawaiian airlines, and additional airports, once operationally ready.
Currently, the TSA vets passenger lists against "watch lists" of known or suspected terrorists. But the TSA is working with a very limited amount of information about those passengers. Namely a person's full name, date of birth and gender. Under "trusted traveler" programs, travelers voluntarily surrender more information about themselves, giving the government more assurances of who they are.
The amount and nature of the information that will be sought was not disclosed.
There have long been calls for the TSA to adopt a trusted traveler program. Congress and critics have stepped up that demand following two highly publicized incidents, one involving the search of a 6-year-old girl, and the other involving a 95-year-old cancer patient. In both cases, the TSA has said the airport screeners were following established protocols.
But the TSA also has said it is working toward a "risk-based" trusted traveler program that could expedite travel for people believed to present little risk to aviation.
The TSA said in July that Pistole will work with Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Alan Bersin and the airlines to determine passenger eligibility for this screening project, which is voluntary.
All passengers in the pilot project will be subject to recurrent security checks.
Security experts have long expressed concern about so-called "clean skins". Potential terrorists who enroll in "trusted traveler" programs to avoid scrutiny during a terror mission. But the TSA says it will continue to incorporate random and unpredictable security measures to address such concerns.
Pistole said in July that other layers of security will remain in place, including intelligence gathering and analysis, explosive-detection canine teams, federal air marshals, closed-circuit television monitoring and behavior detection officers.
International airline Avianca Taca announces that it will begin operating direct flights from Bogota, Colombia to Rio de Janiero, Brazil three times weekly.
I have never been to South America as my travels have been so far limited to Southeast Asia and Europe.
However I am willing to give it a try.
I don't speak Spanish and know nothing about the culture or mongering methods other than in this forum.
So, if you don't mind, please advise on a good place to begin a South American visit so as to get my bearings, figure the area out and sample the environment.
Thanks
I'm thinking about paying a visit to Medellin. So I'm talking to these chicks online telling them that I don't know anything about the place. I ask one girl about where to stay. She says I don't know. Look for a hotel. As if she knows nothing about her city and can not even attempt to point me in the right direction. I tell another girl that I don't know where to stay. She takes it as I don't know where Medellin is located. And she tells me "Colombia en el sur." So I informed her that Medellin is not in the south of Colombia. Are the women in Medellin generally as dense as these two? For someone trying to visit them they are no help at all.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1203362]I'm thinking about paying a visit to Medellin. So I'm talking to these chicks online telling them that I don't know anything about the place. I ask one girl about where to stay. She says I don't know. Look for a hotel. As if she knows nothing about her city and can not even attempt to point me in the right direction. I tell another girl that I don't know where to stay. She takes it as I don't know where Medellin is located. And she tells me "Colombia en el sur." So I informed her that Medellin is not in the south of Colombia. Are the women in Medellin generally as dense as these two? For someone trying to visit them they are no help at all.[/QUOTE]Just like every country some chicas are complete airheads and have no sense of direction nor geography.
In your case though It does sound like these chicas had / have no interest for small talk with you for whatever reason being so naive and unhelpful.
[QUOTE=Mahaba;1203218]I have never been to South America as my travels have been so far limited to Southeast Asia and Europe. However I am willing to give it a try. I don't speak Spanish and know nothing about the culture or mongering methods other than in this forum. So, if you don't mind, please advise on a good place to begin a South American visit so as to get my bearings, figure the area out and sample the environment. Thanks[/QUOTE]I am not sure exactly why you would post a general question on South America in the Colombian forum, but I'll bite. I have been to every Spanish-speaking country on the continent and I don't think you can figure out the area or get your bearings by simply going to one country. South America is almost twice as big as Europe, and it comprises many cultures. While it would be somewhere between foolish and inexcusable to arrive anywhere knowing nothing about the culture, I would rate Argentina, Paraguay, Colombia, Ecuador, and Chile in that order if one is considering only mongering. English will not be widely spoken anywhere in South America outside of hotels and tourist areas, but is probably most widely spoken in Chile, in my experience. Argentina is a huge country and has every possible climate. Colombia is quite large as well. Chile has a wide variety of latitude such that most any temperature can be obtained at any time (somewhat true of Argentina as well), and has the advantage that the mountains are extremely close to the coast. Perú is intriguing for a first-timer because it has mountains, beaches, jungle, and desert all in a somewhat compact area, but I don't personally think the mongering is that great. It certainly exists.
Appropriate questions to ask yourself include:
1) Hot weather or cold weather?
2) Smaller towns or larger cities?
3) How much time do you have?
4) How much money do you have?
5) How much balls do you have (it's a relatively dangerous continent)?
One thing I would say is that if you have no Spanish and think you have a lot of balls, you can get in a LOT of trouble. Like dead kind of trouble. If I spoke no Spanish, had plenty of money, wanted to stay out of trouble, and could only go to one city, I would probably go to Santiago de Chile. If I spoke no Spanish, wanted to stay out of trouble, did not have a lot of money, and only wanted to monger, I would go to Asunción, Paraguay, and make sure I was home by 10 PM. If I wanted to party my ass off and had more balls than brains I would go to Colombia. That country can be done on a low budget or on a high budget. If I wanted a sophisticated urban experience with things to do in the daytime and lots of different ways to monger, I would go to Buenos Aires. If I wanted a nice, clean, mellow experience with some mediocre mongering and a fair amount of English, I would go to Uruguay.
If I wanted to shit my guts out the entire time and for weeks or months afterwards, I would go to Perú. So if you choose that country do not forget your Loperamide, and only eat fish in the morning.
Note that I am only rating the Spanish-speaking countries as I have not mongered in Brazil and have not been to the other three non-Spanish cultures. Venezuela sucks totally and is very dangerous, and I did not spend enough time in Bolivia to form an opinion, although I did fuck a couple of hookers in La Paz and one in Lago Titicaca, but she was actually (allegedly) from Puno, Perú. That town is a real shit hole.
First time I went to Colombia, I went to Medellin & stayed at Casa Blanca I.
The place is a little pricey but it was well worth it.
Aussie Greg is a good guy, he helped me get my bearings,
The whole staff was very professional & helpful.
Even the mongers staying there didn't mind sharing info. & let me tag along. Just a good vibe.
I suggest you read the Medellin Reports & Casa Blanca threads for the last 2-3 months.
If you decide to go there, make your reservations right away, the place gets booked well in advance.
If you decide to venture out by yourself, go to World Traveler's post # 770 in the Medellin lists thread, it's invaluable info I use very time I go to Medellin.
I got to tell you, if you don't know Spanish & look Anglo, just hire one of the drivers in the list. Fernando knows where to take you & knows enough English for you to understand each other.
If you happen to be there the first two weeks of November, PM me.
Best.
[QUOTE=Mahaba; 1203218]I have never been to South America as my travels have been so far limited to Southeast Asia and Europe.
However I am willing to give it a try.
I don't speak Spanish and know nothing about the culture or mongering methods other than in this forum.
So, if you don't mind, please advise on a good place to begin a South American visit so as to get my bearings, figure the area out and sample the environment.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hello, fellow mongers!
We are two guys planning on visiting Colombia for the first time in Jan / Feb-2012.
We have plenty of experience from Europe and Eastern Europe. One of has spent a wonderful month in Buenos Aires a few years ago. One of the questions we have regarding the chicas. How common is the acceptance of anal sex and deep-throat?
We keep seeing a lot of pretty faces from your posted pictures. This has been the main motivation of choosing Colombia as our next destination. But how kinky are the girls in general? Are there any special places that can be recommended over others?
One of the scenarious we have in mind, is a private party with say 6-8 chicas staying over night. What would be a reasonble ball-park figure for such a venture?
Our humble thanks to anyone helping us out with these important queries!
Max & Dan
[QUOTE=Maxlou1970; 1203537]Hello, fellow mongers!
We are two guys planning on visiting Colombia for the first time in Jan / Feb-2012.
We have plenty of experience from Europe and Eastern Europe. One of has spent a wonderful month in Buenos Aires a few years ago. One of the questions we have regarding the chicas. How common is the acceptance of anal sex and deep-throat?
We keep seeing a lot of pretty faces from your posted pictures. This has been the main motivation of choosing Colombia as our next destination. But how kinky are the girls in general? Are there any special places that can be recommended over others?
One of the scenarious we have in mind, is a private party with say 6-8 chicas staying over night. What would be a reasonble ball-park figure for such a venture?
Our humble thanks to anyone helping us out with these important queries!
Max & Dan[/QUOTE]Argentina is AMAZING! If not for the long flight I'd go all the time. I had three trips for a total of 5 months and I loved every second of it!
IME Anal and deep-throat are not as common as in Argentina."Servicio Completo" en Arg is great ($15 extra I belive) but in Colombia I find that most girls are not down with booty sex and for the most part are not as Kinky as the girls in Arg. I could be wrong but from what I see in reports this is the same experience of the others as well. I've gotten a finger or two in the booty during doggie but that's about it and with a few of my favorite regulars.
For the private party; I've never tried to execute such a thing myself and I wish you good luck; sounds awesome! For cost? Depends on your budget and where you recruit the girls from. Bogota-Cartagena-Cali-Medellin (estimate / average) I'd say a TLN is $150K-$250K per chica x 8 so $600-$800 and WAY beyond.
P4P is Colombia is accepted as long as it's not THROWN in peoples faces; like door guys, hotel staff, neighbors, ect. When you parade 8-10 Hookers into the hotel lobby or even in your rented apartment you might be asking for a bit of a hassle as the door guys are more concerned about the permanent residents than the wants and needs of two guys who are looking to party for a week or two. But this depends on where you are staying. It's not like Thailand or the Philippines where it's working girls every where all day every day. More of a chill vibe I'd say. Plus from what I have heard here and in country is when you have two or more girls in your place is when the DRAMA starts. Shit gets stolen, scams get pulled off, boyfriends / pimps / thugs get let in and dudes get tied up and their stuff stolen. Not trying to be negative or to scare you but this is the info I have heard and heard of so I hope it helps.
When I got o Europe I hope I can lean on you guys for some advice!
Hi, does anybody have any experience of this place? I can't see any reports on here?
Ta
Perfectly said Dickhead, ditto it all.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1203399]I am not sure exactly why you would post a general question on South America in the Colombian forum, but I'll bite. I have been to every Spanish-speaking country on the continent and I don't think you can figure out the area or get your bearings by simply going to one country. South America is almost twice as big as Europe, and it comprises many cultures. While it would be somewhere between foolish and inexcusable to arrive anywhere knowing nothing about the culture, I would rate Argentina, Paraguay, Colombia, Ecuador, and Chile in that order if one is considering only mongering. English will not be widely spoken anywhere in South America outside of hotels and tourist areas, but is probably most widely spoken in Chile, in my experience. Argentina is a huge country and has every possible climate. Colombia is quite large as well. Chile has a wide variety of latitude such that most any temperature can be obtained at any time (somewhat true of Argentina as well) , and has the advantage that the mountains are extremely close to the coast. Perú is intriguing for a first-timer because it has mountains, beaches, jungle, and desert all in a somewhat compact area, but I don't personally think the mongering is that great. It certainly exists.
Appropriate questions to ask yourself include:
1) Hot weather or cold weather?
2) Smaller towns or larger cities?
3) How much time do you have?
4) How much money do you have?
5) How much balls do you have (it's a relatively dangerous continent)?
One thing I would say is that if you have no Spanish and think you have a lot of balls, you can get in a LOT of trouble. Like dead kind of trouble. If I spoke no Spanish, had plenty of money, wanted to stay out of trouble, and could only go to one city, I would probably go to Santiago de Chile. If I spoke no Spanish, wanted to stay out of trouble, did not have a lot of money, and only wanted to monger, I would go to Asuncióand, Paraguay, and make sure I was home by 10 PM. If I wanted to party my ass off and had more balls than brains I would go to Colombia. That country can be done on a low budget or on a high budget. If I wanted a sophisticated urban experience with things to do in the daytime and lots of different ways to monger, I would go to Buenos Aires. If I wanted a nice, clean, mellow experience with some mediocre mongering and a fair amount of English, I would go to Uruguay.
If I wanted to shit my guts out the entire time and for weeks or months afterwards, I would go to Perú. So if you choose that country do not forget your Loperamide, and only eat fish in the morning.
Note that I am only rating the Spanish-speaking countries as I have not mongered in Brazil and have not been to the other three non-Spanish cultures. Venezuela sucks totally and is very dangerous, and I did not spend enough time in Bolivia to form an opinion, although I did fuck a couple of hookers in La Paz and one in Lago Titicaca, but she was actually (allegedly) from Puno, Perú. That town is a real shit hole.[/QUOTE]
I found this excerpt from a recent post by Mr. Goo a senior member about buildings / apartments:
===A few years ago, the building supers were cracking down on mongerers staying there. The residents were saying we were hurting their investments. This was happening mainly in El Pablado. So the building supers were requesting a minimum week stay to crack down on the weekend mongerers. I was told by the rental company to be on best behavior. No orgys, no slutty looking tricks, and no parties. This was funny because the building maid had a girl doing tricks if I wanted. I haven't heard much about this lately, so I guess most guys stay at the mansion. I'm just saying be discreet because you are being watched. ===
Just thought this would help a bit; just so you weren't shocked once you arrive. Good Luck.
[QUOTE=Maxlou1970; 1203537]Hello, fellow mongers!
We are two guys planning on visiting Colombia for the first time in Jan / Feb-2012.
We have plenty of experience from Europe and Eastern Europe. One of has spent a wonderful month in Buenos Aires a few years ago. One of the questions we have regarding the chicas. How common is the acceptance of anal sex and deep-throat?
We keep seeing a lot of pretty faces from your posted pictures. This has been the main motivation of choosing Colombia as our next destination. But how kinky are the girls in general? Are there any special places that can be recommended over others?
One of the scenarious we have in mind, is a private party with say 6-8 chicas staying over night. What would be a reasonble ball-park figure for such a venture?
Our humble thanks to anyone helping us out with these important queries!
Max & Dan[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mahaba; 1203218]I have never been to South America as my travels have been so far limited to Southeast Asia and Europe.
However I am willing to give it a try.
I don't speak Spanish and know nothing about the culture or mongering methods other than in this forum.
So, if you don't mind, please advise on a good place to begin a South American visit so as to get my bearings, figure the area out and sample the environment.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Brazil-hot women, great parties, loads to do, beautiful beaches, best sex you can have. There are towns north and south not over run with gringos which are gold mines.
Venezuela-non pro action is amazing-no gringos these days. Some say danderous I never have a problem, just take care. Hot women.
Peru-easiest place in the world to score non pros along with ecuador.
Colombia-Medellin-not what it used to be. Hot non pros becoming difficult. Gringos everywhere. Hot prepagos. Not much to do there until weekends. Cartegena has a beach, old city is beautiful, hot prepagos.
Rest of Colombia does nothing for me. Cali most overated place in Colombia-hot, boring, dangerous and the women have nothing on paisas. Bogota-rain, cold, traffic jams. Baranquia-boring and hot.
Cartegena and Medellin ate the two obvious choices. Then again I'm not the type of person that travels to another country just to spend my days in shopping centres looking at girls.
Chilie-don't know it very well-not interested all that much
[QUOTE=Gary Groundwork; 1205879]Brazil-hot women, great parties, loads to do, beautiful beaches, best sex you can have. There are towns north and south not over run with gringos which are gold mines.
Venezuela-non pro action is amazing-no gringos these days. Some say danderous I never have a problem, just take care. Hot women.
Peru-easiest place in the world to score non pros along with ecuador.
Colombia-Medellin-not what it used to be. Hot non pros becoming difficult. Gringos everywhere. Hot prepagos. Not much to do there until weekends. Cartegena has a beach, old city is beautiful, hot prepagos.
Rest of Colombia does nothing for me. Cali most overated place in Colombia-hot, boring, dangerous and the women have nothing on paisas. Bogota-rain, cold, traffic jams. Baranquia-boring and hot.
Cartegena and Medellin ate the two obvious choices. Then again I'm not the type of person that travels to another country just to spend my days in shopping centres looking at girls.
Chilie-don't know it very well-not interested all that much[/QUOTE]Gary,
I was in Medellin for 2 weeks in September. I stayed in Poblado for the first few days and then moved over to Laureles. I keep hearing how Medellin is over run with gringos. Occasionaly I would see gringos in Poblado but once I moved over to Laureles, I never saw another single gringo for one whole week! I rode the metro everywhere, went to El Centro and quite a few other places. I really don't understand the sentiment that gringos "are everywhere". In a country of 47 million people, the number of gringos visiting is a tiny droplet.
[QUOTE=Gary Groundwork; 1205879]Brazil-hot women, great parties, loads to do, beautiful beaches, best sex you can have. There are towns north and south not over run with gringos which are gold mines.
Venezuela-non pro action is amazing-no gringos these days. Some say danderous I never have a problem, just take care. Hot women.
Peru-easiest place in the world to score non pros along with ecuador.
Colombia-Medellin-not what it used to be. Hot non pros becoming difficult. Gringos everywhere. Hot prepagos. Not much to do there until weekends. Cartegena has a beach, old city is beautiful, hot prepagos.
Rest of Colombia does nothing for me. Cali most overated place in Colombia-hot, boring, dangerous and the women have nothing on paisas. Bogota-rain, cold, traffic jams. Baranquia-boring and hot.
Cartegena and Medellin ate the two obvious choices. Then again I'm not the type of person that travels to another country just to spend my days in shopping centres looking at girls.
Chilie-don't know it very well-not interested all that much[/QUOTE]I like your assesment and agree, though I personally dig Cali, you're right the city is nothing special, but I have special friends and contacts there, and I enjoy your spelling of "Baranquia" :)
[QUOTE=Ricker;1206173]I like your assesment and agree, though I personally dig Cali, you're right the city is nothing special, but I have special friends and contacts there,[/QUOTE]I third that, except my experience of Venezuela is that it's freakin expensive for a third world place.
[QUOTE=EstebanH; 1206042]Gary,
I was in Medellin for 2 weeks in September. I stayed in Poblado for the first few days and then moved over to Laureles. I keep hearing how Medellin is over run with gringos. Occasionaly I would see gringos in Poblado but once I moved over to Laureles, I never saw another single gringo for one whole week! I rode the metro everywhere, went to El Centro and quite a few other places. I really don't understand the sentiment that gringos "are everywhere". In a country of 47 million people, the number of gringos visiting is a tiny droplet.[/QUOTE]Esteban if you were in Medellin 5/10 years ago you would know what I mean. I'm not sure if you were or not of course.
Put it this way you wouldn't even see a gringo in LLeras. Lucky to see one or two. There was a real novelty factor with the girls. That has seriously worn off now. In fact it has almost done a full circle where some of the girls will tell you it can even be seen as being a negative thing being with a gringo in some circles.
Venezuela is the opposite. Hardly a gringo around now. Easy work. Still not easy as Peru but hotter women.
Hello, all,
Just returned from a fantastic trip to Medellin. Now if I could just kick this post nasal drip I acquired on the plane home!
I have to say that learning Spanish really pays off. I have these CDs in my car that have been repeating over and over for months. Sitting in traffic has never been more productive. Being able to spend a full day with a chica and even a second date changes the game completely! My Spanish is not great but I can get by. At times, the gringo tax was in full effect, especially during my short stay at CB. But otherwise, with just a little patience and putting forth a good effort, I was shown an unaccountable amount of compassion and generosity. In general, the people are so freaking friendly it makes me sad when I realize how desperate and impatient we gringos act in spite of all the luxuries and conveniences we so blindly take for granted. I think to make a better impression while visiting their country, we just need to slow down a little. I recommend games. Cards, dice, checkers. Whatever you can think of. I found a backgammon board in my apartment! Hours of entertainment, fabulous prizes and limited demand for Spanish vocabulary! Question. Whats the best way to get to and from the major cities. Specifically to CTG from MDE? I know in Peru, plane tickets are a lot less expensive if a local resident buys them. Is this the case in Colombia as well? Post in the forum or PM me. Thanks. Positive energy to all.
[QUOTE=Gary Groundwork; 1206295]Esteban if you were in Medellin 5/10 years ago you would know what I mean. I'm not sure if you were or not of course.
Put it this way you wouldn't even see a gringo in LLeras. Lucky to see one or two. There was a real novelty factor with the girls. That has seriously worn off now. In fact it has almost done a full circle where some of the girls will tell you it can even be seen as being a negative thing being with a gringo in some circles.
Venezuela is the opposite. Hardly a gringo around now. Easy work. Still not easy as Peru but hotter women.[/QUOTE]OK, I get what you are saying about the novelty factor, but Colombia is still way better than Costa Rica and I always have a blast when I go to Costa Rica. Plus, the ladies are cheaper.
I know absolutely nothing about Venezuela but my impressions of the place is that it is a cesspool waiting to boil over. Sure, there may be some hot women there but the disdain for Americans must be palpable. Educate me if you know better.
A good way to learn Spanish, once you reach a certain level, is listening to music. For Mexican standards, you can listen to Vincente Fernandez, Lucha Villa or Jose Jose among many others. Also, Roberto Carlos. The top album for Mexican classics, for learning, and a great album by any measure, is Canta en Espaņol, by Eydie Gormet.
[quote=chesrep001;1206692]a good way to learn spanish, once you reach a certain level, is listening to music. for mexican standards, you can listen to vincente fernandez, lucha villa or jose jose among many others. also, roberto carlos. the top album for mexican classics, for learning, and a great album by any measure, is canta en espaņol, by eydie gormet.[/quote]yeah and if you want to learn spanish with a colombian accent? google, look up and watch every episode of "suso el paspi" that should give you the edge, how to speak proper colombian spanish, some practice and most importantly how to score with these colombianas! try it out!
I don't know if you are joking or not, but really this is the truth, watch a popular television show and you will, if you study, pick up colloquial Spanish. Like in Mexico, they are constantly quoting El Chavo del Ocho. It may not be proper Mexican or Colombian Spanish, but the goal should be to speak street Spanish, rather than proper Spanish. So TV, like Suso el Paspi, or el Chavo del Ocho, is really a good source.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1206705]Yeah and if you want to learn Spanish with a Colombian accent? Google, look up and watch every episode of "Suso el Paspi" That should give you the edge, how to speak proper Colombian Spanish, some practice and most importantly how to score with these Colombianas! Try it out![/QUOTE]
[quote=chesrep001;1206692]a good way to learn spanish, once you reach a certain level, is listening to music.[/quote]i agree. i'm constantly listening to spanish music and it has helped me to learn and retain spanish and it's not as boring as pimsleur or other similar "learn and listen" courses. since i'm a visual learner, when i listen to spanish music, i like to read the lyrics. this allows me to recognize the words and learn spanish slang / phrases, how spanish words are spelled and conjugated, etc. i've found spanish music videos with subtitled lyrics are particularly helpful. there are several youtube channels, but since i'm a fan of la oreja de van gogh, i've found this youtube channel to be one of my favorite since their song lyrics are subtitled.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/user/ksbkmojo?feature=mhee[/url]
El Chavo is also popular here in Colombia.
Don't try to pick up Spanish from Roberto Carlos, he's Brazilian and sings with a pretty thick accent.
[QUOTE=Yujin; 1206860]I agree. I'm constantly listening to Spanish music and it has helped me to learn and retain Spanish and it's not as boring as Pimsleur or other similar "learn and listen" courses. Since I'm a visual learner, when I listen to Spanish music, I like to read the lyrics. This allows me to recognize the words and learn Spanish slang / phrases, how Spanish words are spelled and conjugated, etc. I've found Spanish music videos with subtitled lyrics are particularly helpful. There are several YouTube channels, but since I'm a fan of La Oreja de Van Gogh, I've found this YouTube channel to be one of my favorite since their song lyrics are subtitled.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/user/KSBKmojo?feature=mhee[/url][/QUOTE]Like the it says movies are huge. Watch an old movie you know well or an action movie that has limited story complexities. NO ENGLISH sub titles, and just watch and listen. When the guy jumps from a train and yells "Ten cuidado". What did we learn? Be careful. Or when the hero kisses the girl "Te amo / quiero" thats right I love you.
This will not improve your grammar but it will improve your listening skills and show you little phrases for situations & Ect
1. I want to look like a young Paul Newman (blue eyes ).
2. Be able to dance like Fred Astaire.
3. Have the money of Bill Gates.
4. Speak Spanish like Ricky Ricardo (thanks Ricker for that one)
5. Be as funny as Collin Quinn.
There I think that should entitle me to get some fine Latina Non Pro Pussy.
Who you kidding? I seen your act! You already got all that going for you!
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1209873]1. I want to look like a young Paul Newman (blue eyes ).
2. Be able to dance like Fred Astaire.
3. Have the money of Bill Gates.
4. Speak Spanish like Ricky Ricardo (thanks Ricker for that one)
5. Be as funny as Collin Quinn.
There I think that should entitle me to get some fine Latina Non Pro Pussy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1209873]1. I want to look like a young Paul Newman (blue eyes ).
2. Be able to dance like Fred Astaire.
3. Have the money of Bill Gates.
4. Speak Spanish like Ricky Ricardo (thanks Ricker for that one)
5. Be as funny as Collin Quinn.
There I think that should entitle me to get some fine Latina Non Pro Pussy.[/QUOTE]You're missing THREE BIG ONES. Counting and writing down the amount of orgasms you give each girl, The THOUSANDS of girls you've bedded and last but not least the year and amount of times you've been to Colombia since 1990 (counting all of those of passports and stamps) LOL
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1209873]1. I want to look like a young Paul Newman (blue eyes ).
2. Be able to dance like Fred Astaire.
3. Have the money of Bill Gates.
4. Speak Spanish like Ricky Ricardo (thanks Ricker for that one)
5. Be as funny as Collin Quinn.
There I think that should entitle me to get some fine Latina Non Pro Pussy.[/QUOTE]6. A dong like John Holmes
I make these lists from time to time to stir up a little action on the boards.
How could I forget all the Orgasimos, and also leaving out the important big dong.
Funny the passport stamps were mentioned as I just spent $142, and many hours in Philadelphia getting 48 new pages on my old passport. It would have been $82, but there was a $60 extra charge to get it done for the trip I am now on in Nica land. The girls are great in Nicaragua, but the intrastructure sucks big time. The other day over 24 houirs with no power, and the roads have more big holes than a $6 Lima hooker.
You Can, I know you are excited about your upcoming trip to CTG. Give it a good home brother.
I have had additional pages put in my passport twice and it was free. Is this a new fee?
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1210261]I have had additional pages put in my passport twice and it was free. Is this a new fee?[/QUOTE]I had the 48 pages put in on Oct. 13 this year.
Man you must do a lot of border crossings to get it done twice.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1210261]I have had additional pages put in my passport twice and it was free. Is this a new fee?[/QUOTE]New passport fees for the USA Passport Book, the USA Passport Card, and other passport services went into effect on Tuesday, July 13, 2010. I got my new passport complete with extra pages on July 12, 2010 the day before it went into effect, so I'm good for another 9 years hopefully. If you have Global Entry it saves a lot of space in your passport because you do not get a stamp when you enter the USA through an airport that has Global Entry service.
[url]http://travel.state.gov/passport/fees/fees_5079.html[/url]
Renewal Fee.
Adult Passport Book & Card $140.
Adult Passport Book $110.
Adult Passport Card If you currently hold a valid Passport Book or Card $30.
Expedited Service $60.
Add Pages to Passport $82.
[url]http://travel.state.gov/passport/fees/fees_837.html[/url]
Thanks for the info. Fuck me, but thanks for the info. I don't think I got 48 pages. Let me see. First addition says A thru X so that is 24. Those are all full now. Second addition also A through X but in the first case, one page cannot be used due to general info and in the second case two pages are unusable. The additions look very different even though I got them both in the same place (the US Embassy in Buenos Aires). I got about 18 or so of those left and the passport expires in a year and a half.
Cock sucking nickel and dime bullshit fees.
[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1210338]Thanks for the info. Fuck me, but thanks for the info. I don't think I got 48 pages. Let me see. First addition says A thru X so that is 24. Those are all full now. Second addition also A through X but in the first case, one page cannot be used due to general info and in the second case two pages are unusable. The additions look very different even though I got them both in the same place (the US Embassy in Buenos Aires). I got about 18 or so of those left and the passport expires in a year and a half.
Cock sucking nickel and dime bullshit fees.[/QUOTE]On the new one with extra pages, pages 8-48 can be used for stamps. I'm already up to page 20. It sux because most places give you an entry and an exit stamp. But chalk it up to the cost of doing business.
I have 72 pages in my passport and need more. I never paid to have the pages added in the USA.
I have 3 years to go so I think I will have to have more pages added twice. Next time I will get a commercial pasport. I also joined the GOES thing that takes your pasport info and fingerprints and no more lines incoming to the USA and no USA entry stamps.
Mel.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1210287]I had the 48 pages put in on Oct. 13 this year.
Man you must do a lot of border crossings to get it done twice.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1209873]1. I want to look like a young Paul Newman (blue eyes ).
2. Be able to dance like Fred Astaire.
3. Have the money of Bill Gates.
4. Speak Spanish like Ricky Ricardo (thanks Ricker for that one)
5. Be as funny as Collin Quinn.
There I think that should entitle me to get some fine Latina Non Pro Pussy.[/QUOTE]You don't want to speak Spanish with a bad Cuban accent do you? Pick a Colombian, and one from the INTERIOR at that! :P
Reposted from the Morality of Prostitution thread:
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1210695]Living as an expat in Colombia for 3 years has majorly opened my eyes to human nature. People here have a lot MORE sex than North Americans, and it's not because they have more free time (they certainly don't here in the big city) or any other reason, it's because by and large people are more physically ATTRACTIVE to one another here. A woman's pickiness goes OUT THE WINDOW the moment she sees a guy who PHYSICALLY fulfills her last expectation. She will pay the hotel room, bring breakfast in bed, tolerate other women in the picture or even open up her latent bi side for the guy, even pay his personal expenses, you name it. It's all about DEGREE OF ATTRACTION. This just never happens in North America because as ugly as the women are, the men are even uglier.
I'm also beginning to realize how awesome the ancient Greeks were with their aesthetics, and how RIGHT they were. I was quite the little relativist for awhile, but have come around to realize there are actually many absolutes in the universe. Being fat in ancient Greece was considered such an offense to society, it was sometimes even worth the death penalty! In contrast, we DELIBERATELY inject chemicals into the food so that our appetites are unnaturally stimulated to the point where we over-consume and wind up with health problems as a result :O[/QUOTE]First, physical attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder. So just because I think a woman is quite adorable, it doesn't mean you will see her the same way. Just about every photo posted on ISG can attest to that. So that is really a moot point.
As for a woman going above and beyond, I have experienced this around the world, North America included. I don't think the cause of it has anything to do with the woman only being physically attracted to a guy. That seems quite ridiculous.
As for size preference that is more so an issue of time and place. Men from many African cultures prefer bigger women. What about the women of Samoa and other Pacific Islanders? Are those people big because of eating or does genetics play a part? As far as the times are concerned here is an excerpt from Women's Conflicts about Eating and Sexuality by Rosalyn Meado and Lillie Weiss:
Although no woman wanted to be fat, her definition of normal weight was very different from what it is today. In one of the few diet articles appearing in the Ladies' Home Journal (July 1955) , a woman who lost 100 pounds is seen as now being slim, her dress size only 14 or 16, and her weight 150 pounds. While a 150-pound woman wearing a size 14 or 16 would not be considered slim today, twelve was considered the perfect dress size.
There are plenty of fat people in Colombia and even the people who are not fat definitely eat heartily. My Colombiana being one of them. Since I last saw her she has gained so much weight. We went out to Lenos & Carbon. She had a parrilla of meats and a separate plate of sides and she ate every bit of it and said that she was not yet full. I had half of a mixed platter that was intended for 2 people and I could not eat it all. I saw others come in and order huge grilled steaks and chicken with all the trimmings as well. I told my girl there was no way they would eat all of that. Lo and behold they cleaned their plates, men and women alike.
We walked around the mall and I got a cone with one scoop of ice cream. We then went to see a movie and my girlfriend got a large sprite and drank all of it. When we came out of the movie she went to Crepes and Waffles and she got 3 scoops of ice cream in a cup that came with a little cake and chocolate syrup toppings. I had to speak up right then. But you know what she said? She said this is nothing, I usually get more than this. And to think I was still full from the dinner.
As far as people there having more sex, if this is true then it is probably because there isn't shit else to do but go to the mall. As many times as I have been to Colombia I am just realizing this. Before my trip I incessantly asked my girl what we were going to do. She would never answer. The first two days we went from mall to mall and for fucking what? Not a damn thing but to walk around in circles. I swear if I would have gone to another Unicentro, Cosmocentro, Astocentro, Megacentro or what the fuck ever other kind of -centro that I was going to hurt somebody. After all these years of going to Colombia I guess I was too busy running around chasing tail to realize there was nothing else to do but run around and chase tail. Being with only one person made me realize that.
On a different note I am so damn tired of hearing music all fucking day long. How about some peace and quiet for a change? First I have to wake up to music videos on the TV. Then I walk around the neighborhood and people are blasting music from their homes. Then when it is time to sleep I can't because it's the middle of the night and music is still being blasted from people's homes. I asked my girlfriend why they do this and her reply was that it was a Colombian thing. I said yes, but don't they realize that sometimes other people want to relax and rest inside their own homes and do other things with their families without being bothered by their music? I told her that in my country neither the neighbors nor the police would stand for it.
After this trip I think my Colombia days are pretty much numbered. I still need to visit Medellin and San Andres to check those places out. I don't even see the women as being as beautiful as I used to think. Don't get me wrong, they are damn beautiful and I still think they are some of the most beautiful in the world, but I'm not as stuck on them as I used to be. Maybe it's just that the all-around Thailand experience has ruined my ass.
Mr. E: I consider you a well-travelled hobbyist. So with Colombia sliding off your list, where would you go to for your Latina fix in the future?
I have only been to Medellin and I think it is relatively quiet so you definitely should visit.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1210261]I have had additional pages put in my passport twice and it was free. Is this a new fee?[/QUOTE]Yes DH it is a new fee. I think it actually went into effect last year, because I had to pay when I had them added in HK last year I am pretty sure. I have (had) seven years left on the passport, and had added new pages three times already. I was trying to convince the consulate in Shanghai to add one more set, but no go. She told me that two was the max (this is true, but the girl in HK said they would try and squeeze a third set in for me since I had to pay for it) so I wound up getting a new passport with 50 some pages. They also allowed me to get a second passport since I go thru them so fast. I had to get a letter from my employer for the second passport, stating the reason for all the travel and need for visas to many countries, etc.
One trip from China to HK is four stamps, doesn't take too long to fill up.
So now I have to travel with three passports, one new one, one cancelled with the visas that are still current, and the second current passport to try use it up first. The second passport is only good for two years.
I feel like James Bond or something, except they are all the same name and country of issue. And of course I don't have beautiful, classy women begging to sleep with me in my 6 star hotels. And nobody is shooting at me. And I don't look like Sean Connery. Then or now.
I can deal without the shooting part, but I wouldn't mind having his women and his expense account.
Well I moved here from NYC so you can hear a pin drop in comparison.
As for things to do, well, once again I'm coming from NYC and there's even more to do, sucks I have to work here for a living because I'd still have something to do every day, and I'm talking music, theater, art galleries, etc. Not to mention the potential for travelling and visiting the most INCREDIBLE national parks, damn you can hop on a plane at Bogota airport and be in the Amazon in just over an hour! Or pristine Caribbean beaches in San Andres, or Pereira which is like a 24 hour party town.
I think there are some absolutes about physical appearance. Tall is better than short, too fat and too skinny are BOTH bad. Women are most attractive with lots of hips and ass and slim waists. Men are attractive with the classic "X" figure, well defined lats, big shoulders, once again slim waist. Long hair trumps short in both women AND men, no matter WHAT any culture tells us. And generally skin that's not too pink and not too dark is the most physically attractive. People liking people really fat or liking them really white is not the deepest things. These are just indicators of wealth and social status in many cultures. True physical attraction is MUCH MUCH more powerful than that.
[QUOTE=Almotu; 1211032]Mr. E: I consider you a well-travelled hobbyist. So with Colombia sliding off your list, where would you go to for your Latina fix in the future?
I have only been to Medellin and I think it is relatively quiet so you definitely should visit.[/QUOTE]I think I'm giving the Latina thing a break for now and concentrating on Thailand. I mean what other Latinas can beat Colombianas anyway? None that I have ever seen (although I have not been to Cuba, Honduras, Bolivia, Paraguay or Chile - the people who I know that have been to those places have not been itching to go back). My top all-around women on the planet are still Brazilians, Colombians, and Thais (not necessarily in that order). I will still have them in my head, but they are not in my heart right now. I keep thinking of two fine ass Colombianas I saw in the airport when I was leaving out of Bogota. They were with two Average Joes. When I tell you these two girls were turning every man's head that they walked past I mean that shit. Those guys must have been their brothers or cousins or something. I should have taken out my camera is what I should have done.
Recently I looked at airfares to Colombia from California (SFO) and the prices have gone through the roof. Its $1100 to Bogota and $1200 to Medellin. Thats with American Airlines. I don't know if other airlines have gone up the same. But whats up with that? A year ago it was $700 rt to Medellin. I can't believe what American is doing. These prices were for Jan. And Feb. The 'low season'. Its way higher for Nov. And December. I guess Colombia is getting more popular with the tourists and they're going to cash in on it.
Going to Nicaragua in Jan. Its only $580 rt from SFO.
[QUOTE=BayBoy; 1211344]Recently I looked at airfares to Colombia from California (SFO) and the prices have gone through the roof. Its $1100 to Bogota and $1200 to Medellin. Thats with American Airlines. I don't know if other airlines have gone up the same. But whats up with that? A year ago it was $700 rt to Medellin. I can't believe what American is doing. These prices were for Jan. And Feb. The 'low season'. Its way higher for Nov. And December. I guess Colombia is getting more popular with the tourists and they're going to cash in on it.
Going to Nicaragua in Jan. Its only $580 rt from SFO.[/QUOTE]May I offer up NN's recent article on using skyscanner?
[url]http://naughtynomad.com/2011/10/14/travel-hack-insanely-cheap-flights/[/url]
All the airlines are way up, I always paid around 320. Round trip from atlantic city to Cartagena and now its around 700. With good seats and bag fees. Its insane. Same with continental from Newark to Puerto plata, I use to pay 340. Round trip now its 750.
[QUOTE=BayBoy; 1211344]Recently I looked at airfares to Colombia from California (SFO) and the prices have gone through the roof. Its $1100 to Bogota and $1200 to Medellin. Thats with American Airlines. I don't know if other airlines have gone up the same. But whats up with that? A year ago it was $700 rt to Medellin. I can't believe what American is doing. These prices were for Jan. And Feb. The 'low season'. Its way higher for Nov. And December. I guess Colombia is getting more popular with the tourists and they're going to cash in on it.
Going to Nicaragua in Jan. Its only $580 rt from SFO.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=You Can;1211546]All the airlines are way up, I always paid around 320. Round trip from atlantic city to Cartagena and now its around 700. With good seats and bag fees. Its insane. Same with continental from Newark to Puerto plata, I use to pay 340. Round trip now its 750.[/QUOTE]Many years ago the mens club I belonged to ran junkets from Philadelphia to Las Vegas. It was great, and cheaper than a regular flight. We had all kind of drawings, and card playing on the flight. We had our own booze, and food. We passed the hat and the flight attendants were very happy with that for them.
I know it is a pipe dream, but it would be great if someone could make charters to exotic places for Mongers.
Imagine 200 guys off the plane, and all ready for action. It would be the fleet was in for the WG's. LOL.
Meanwhile the airlines wet their beaks a little to much for my taste.
If we could only get rid of all the backpackers, and stinking phony missonarys then there would be more seats open for the (Mongers) true adventurer.
Before anyone jumps on me for my Missonary comment let me give two examples.
1. After the earthquake in Haiti the first ones on the plane home were them,
2. In the most expensive resort on the west coast of Nicaragua while I was staying there, it was loaded with these so called do gooders.
Fuck it I rest my case.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1211639]If we could only get rid of all the backpackers, and stinking phony missonarys then there would be more seats open for the (Mongers) true adventurer.[/QUOTE]A lot of my hotter lady friends on facebook, I have been noticing more and more sporadic gringos popping up in their club pictures from lleras, palmas and shit like that. I ask them "who are these gringos?". And they tell me some shit like "oh I met him in the club and he's here with a large group of 50 on a missionary from Norte Carloinas" I was like yeah right.
I am in Nicaragua now, but felt the Colombia forum should know of what just happened to me. On my last trip, and now this one I have been ripped off by uising my ATM cards. I use my hand to cover my pin, and make sure I'm alone, but it does not matter. The scam is when I use the card on say Oct. 28th they make phony charges before that date. Very strange I arrived in MGA on Oct. 18th, and did not use the card till Oct. 28th but they had a picnic hitting me with four tranactions that cleaned out my account. Lucky I only had $600 in that account, but I am not a happy camper. This has soured me on Nicaragua, but if I ever return it will be with cash only.
Lets hope they don't start these tricks in Colombia as I only use ATM's there with no problems so far.
BTW in 10 business days I should know if my claim will get my money back. TD Bank is great. They let me file my dispute on the phone while E- Trade is making me fill out papers when I get home.
Thanks for the info, because I always use my atm card when in Cartagena. I heard these thieves can do this but have never had it happen to me and I hope I never do.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1211951]I am in Nicaragua now, but felt the Colombia forum should know of what just happened to me. On my last trip, and now this one I have been ripped off by uising my ATM cards. I use my hand to cover my pin, and make sure I'm alone, but it does not matter. The scam is when I use the card on say Oct. 28th they make phony charges before that date. Very strange I arrived in MGA on Oct. 18th, and did not use the card till Oct. 28th but they had a picnic hitting me with four tranactions that cleaned out my account. Lucky I only had $600 in that account, but I am not a happy camper. This has soured me on Nicaragua, but if I ever return it will be with cash only.
Lets hope they don't start these tricks in Colombia as I only use ATM's there with no problems so far.
BTW in 10 business days I should know if my claim will get my money back. TD Bank is great. They let me file my dispute on the phone while E- Trade is making me fill out papers when I get home.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1211951]I am in Nicaragua now, but felt the Colombia forum should know of what just happened to me. On my last trip, and now this one I have been ripped off by uising my ATM cards. I use my hand to cover my pin, and make sure I'm alone, but it does not matter. The scam is when I use the card on say Oct. 28th they make phony charges before that date. Very strange I arrived in MGA on Oct. 18th, and did not use the card till Oct. 28th but they had a picnic hitting me with four tranactions that cleaned out my account. Lucky I only had $600 in that account, but I am not a happy camper. This has soured me on Nicaragua, but if I ever return it will be with cash only.
Lets hope they don't start these tricks in Colombia as I only use ATM's there with no problems so far.
BTW in 10 business days I should know if my claim will get my money back. TD Bank is great. They let me file my dispute on the phone while E- Trade is making me fill out papers when I get home.[/QUOTE]So how do they do it? What do they do? For example I only use Davidenda or what ever the name of the bank in Colombia with the little house for it's logo and have never had a problem. Do you mean like a Hi-end skim scam where they hook up a "chinger" to an given ATM and record your info?
Any and all details would be most helpful and appreciated.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1211970]So how do they do it? What do they do? For example I only use Davidenda or what ever the name of the bank in Colombia with the little house for it's logo and have never had a problem. Do you mean like a Hi-end skim scam where they hook up a "chinger" to an given ATM and record your info?
Any and all details would be most helpful and appreciated.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that they do it one of two ways. Both methods are used to capture your card number and pin number. Once they have it they just clone the card. One method is to put put a card reading device over the existing device on the machine, this in my opinion should be easy to spot. The other way is to put high tech miniature cameras in the area of the ATM that allows them to zoom in and see the card number and watch you punch in your pin. The newest cameras use infrared that can see the heat left behind from your fingers hitting the keypad. Both methods are used in Colombia. I don't use my cards anymore, I do take them as an emergency backup but I am of the opinion it is safer to just bring in USD and go to a cambio. I take a taxi straight from the airport to my apartment or hotel and lock 50% in the safe and 50% in my luggage and exchange about 2 or 3 days worth of spending money at a time. The last time I used a card on one of my trips was six months ago in a hotel in the DR, the hotel double charged me and I had to dispute it.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1211970]So how do they do it? What do they do? For example I only use Davidenda or what ever the name of the bank in Colombia with the little house for it's logo and have never had a problem. Do you mean like a Hi-end skim scam where they hook up a "chinger" to an given ATM and record your info?
Any and all details would be most helpful and appreciated.[/QUOTE]Fuck if I know how they do it. I also use Davidenda in Mayorista. Never a problem, and you can get 720k. Of course it can get bad there also.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1211970]So how do they do it? What do they do? For example I only use Davidenda or what ever the name of the bank in Colombia with the little house for it's logo and have never had a problem. Do you mean like a Hi-end skim scam where they hook up a "chinger" to an given ATM and record your info?
Any and all details would be most helpful and appreciated.[/QUOTE]They install a second scanner which transmits the data wirelessly over the internet. It's almost impossible to detect. They were doing this a lot in ATMS in New York too.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1212365]They install a second scanner which transmits the data wirelessly over the internet. It's almost impossible to detect. They were doing this a lot in ATMS in New York too.[/QUOTE]For real? WOW! Are some of the banks in on this? Don't thy monitor they're ATMs? I remember hearing about a huge scam in the states where they hid recorders at Gas Station pumps, Pin pads in convince stores. Places like that; but never in a dedicated bank atm. Now you got me all shook!
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1212396]For real? WOW! Are some of the banks in on this? Don't thy monitor they're ATMs? I remember hearing about a huge scam in the states where they hid recorders at Gas Station pumps, Pin pads in convince stores. Places like that; but never in a dedicated bank atm. Now you got me all shook![/QUOTE]Generally in NYC it was at the third-party ATMs all over the city, and here it's generally ATMs out in the open in malls and such, not in banks. BUT I have heard of thieves successfully putting one on actualy bank ATMs. Thieves can be really good at what they do.
Once here in Bogota I even got a fake 20k peso note from a legit Davivienda ATM, it was right across from all the money changers in Santa Barbara.
[QUOTE=Gary Groundwork; 1206295]Esteban if you were in Medellin 5/10 years ago you would know what I mean. I'm not sure if you were or not of course.
Put it this way you wouldn't even see a gringo in LLeras. Lucky to see one or two. There was a real novelty factor with the girls. That has seriously worn off now. In fact it has almost done a full circle where some of the girls will tell you it can even be seen as being a negative thing being with a gringo in some circles.
Venezuela is the opposite. Hardly a gringo around now. Easy work. Still not easy as Peru but hotter women.[/QUOTE]Extranjeros, I. E. Anglosaxons have been, are and will be very special for the latina chicas. In Colombia. The females are not only hot, they are also friendly. Compare to Argentine girls. They are simply boring, except if you go to places in the interior where few gringos have ever been. In Santiago del Estero I hang out with a group of 4 20 why-o cuties. Brasil, I only know Rio. I had an apartment in Bs As and travelled to Rio. Amazing difference for a monger. I would say that the phenomenen "opposite attracts" is a strong factor in Brasil, the interior of Argentina, Colombia, and (as I heard Venezuela). Peru, Paraguay etc. I really can not judge. The good thing is that the ladies who are attracted to anglo-saxon men are the good-looking one's. Females from Brasil, Colombia and Venezuela are hot and they will take their own initiative and approach you. This can not happen in Argentina, or USA or Europe. It can happen, just as you win on lottery. But in these countries, even if we are not so exotic we were 10-20-30 years ago we still are hot meat for this females, whom themselfes make the maxium out of their natural beauty with surgery, make-up and dressing.
Peruvians are hot in Parque Kennedy. But I lived in Arequipa for five months. Girls where generallly ugly or modest looking. Medellíand must be considered the world capital of female beauty, plus this beauties willingness to socialize and have sex with anglo-saxons. My experience is that it counts for the whole of Colombia. Peruvian girls where not like that at all, and few of them are attractive, just like in 'sexprison
You won't believe this but I'm at the airport in the USA waiting for my connection, and went on line to my bank and found almost $600 in ATM charges. This is on a card I never used this trip. I used it once last July with no problems. Look at my posts in the ATM ripoff section (Nicaragua) , and you will see the other problems with two other cards.
Under no circumstane bring ATM cards to Nicaragua. I would of caught it earlier, but I could not access the account out of the country.
I'm posting this in the Colombia board as I think it is now totaly unwise to use ATM cards in Latin America. No wait a minute, I'm getting rid of all my cards to use anywhere. Needless to say I'm not a happy camper. Three different cards (only used two and three ripoffs.)
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1213721]You won't believe this but I'm at the airport in the USA waiting for my connection, and went on line to my bank and found almost $600 in ATM charges. This is on a card I never used this trip. I used it once last July with no problems. Look at my posts in the ATM ripoff section (Nicaragua) , and you will see the other problems with two other cards.
Under no circumstane bring ATM cards to Nicaragua. I would of caught it earlier, but I could not access the account out of the country.
I'm posting this in the Colombia board as I think it is now totally unwise to use ATM cards in Latin America. No wait a minute, I'm getting rid of all my cards to use anywhere. Needless to say I'm not a happy camper. Three different cards (only used two and three ripoffs.) [/QUOTE]Sorry to hear this buddy. I hope you can get all your loot back and it will not be a huge pain in the balls. SUCKS! Let me ask. Did you bring a lap top? Use "secure" wi-fi? Public computer? Did you let a chica check her email or facebook? Because it looks to me that you are the victim of a larger con / hustle. One card is a coincidence or some shit luck. TWO cards means you've been targeted specifically, THREE cards and you know they're riding you to the poor house and you need to secure ALL of you CC and bank accounts and DO NOT sleep on your paypal either if you have one!
You're lap top has been compromised some how either by some hackers spy ware or a fisher bot program thing. With this new info I'd say it was not the ATM scam rather a larger attack over the internet that granted them larger access to your shit. If we were in the states I'd say out right identity theft via the mail but because it's in another country I would guess they stole your info right off your computer.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1213721]You won't believe this but I'm at the airport in the USA waiting for my connection, and went on line to my bank and found almost $600 in ATM charges. This is on a card I never used this trip. I used it once last July with no problems. Look at my posts in the ATM ripoff section (Nicaragua) , and you will see the other problems with two other cards.
Under no circumstane bring ATM cards to Nicaragua. I would of caught it earlier, but I could not access the account out of the country.
I'm posting this in the Colombia board as I think it is now totaly unwise to use ATM cards in Latin America. No wait a minute, I'm getting rid of all my cards to use anywhere. Needless to say I'm not a happy camper. Three different cards (only used two and three ripoffs.) [/QUOTE]Bro your having a string bad luck and I think the problem lies deeper. I mean how the fuck are you getting debited on a card you used in Nicaragua that you never used in Nicaragua? I use 3 credit cards to withdraw money and make charges in most of Latin America and the caribbean for many years and (knock on wood) have never had one issue. Granted I have never been to Nicaragua (YET)
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1213721]Under no circumstane bring ATM cards to Nicaragua. I would of caught it earlier, but I could not access the account out of the country.
I'm posting this in the Colombia board as I think it is now totaly unwise to use ATM cards in Latin America. No wait a minute, I'm getting rid of all my cards to use anywhere. Needless to say I'm not a happy camper. Three different cards (only used two and three ripoffs.) [/QUOTE]As Slam said, your problem has to be one bigger than the ATM. Otherwise how do you explain the third ripoff. I have never had a problem with the machines in Nica (I usually get enough from the ones at the airport when I arrive) , or anywhere on the planet for that matter.
I think you guys are right. There is more to this than meets the eye. It could be a hacker or an inside job from my Novia's relatives.
At this point I'm putting my claims in to get my money back.
Funny it got me thinking of my first Mongering trip to Costa Rica. No Atm cards, no cell phone or laptop, just a fucking blast with the cash I brought into the country. I think a return to the old ways is sometimes a good idea.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1213905]I think you guys are right. There is more to this than meets the eye. It could be a hacker or an inside job from my Novia's relatives.
At this point I'm putting my claims in to get my money back.
Funny it got me thinking of my first Mongering trip to Costa Rica. No Atm cards, no cell phone or laptop, just a fucking blast with the cash I brought into the country. I think a return to the old ways is sometimes a good idea.[/QUOTE]Between Hackers and a set up by your Novia's family I hope it's the Hackers! If it's hackers they're just liars and thieves and you got unlucky; if it's a part of your girls family now you're a victim of theft and of betrayal of somebody's family (maybe the NOVIA?) that you care about and in many ways that is MUCH worse. IMO anyway.
Good luck let us know how it all works out
Does anyone know the current prices (Summer 2011) of a lady for short time and for all night? What are the girls asking and what is acceptable? I have heard that Cartegena is the most expensive city for girls. What about Bogota and Medellin? What about other smaller towns?
The current exchange rate is one US dollar to 1, 920. 00 Colombian Pasos What are the girls getting and what does that mean in US dollars for short time and all night?
Faithful Heart
[QUOTE=Faithful Heart; 1215548]Does anyone know the current prices (Summer 2011) of a lady for short time and for all night? What are the girls asking and what is acceptable? I have heard that Cartegena is the most expensive city for girls. What about Bogota and Medellin? What about other smaller towns?
The current exchange rate is one US dollar to 1, 920. 00 Colombian Pasos What are the girls getting and what does that mean in US dollars for short time and all night?
Faithful Heart[/QUOTE]Geezus dude how about RTFF! Doesn't anybody read anymore, WTF.
All that is definitely explained if you RTFF. It took me about a week, but I've read ever post. You will learn the most from doing this, as you will gain 100's of opinions as aposed to one persons view.
Cuidado
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1215629]Geezus dude how about RTFF! Doesn't anybody read anymore, WTF.[/QUOTE]
(So, I guess this is the right thread for non-chica subjects, right?)
I went to both Hooters & Time Out over the weekend to see if they were showing the Monday night game. They both said yes.
Monday night I plopped my butt at Hooters to watch the game.
Four mini cheeseburgers were. Adequate. I was hungry.
Get this: With about five minutes left in the game (20-30 minutes real time) with a score where anything can still happen, Hooters announce they're closing! WTF!
I see Time Out across the street still has the game on so I run there & ask the guy if he's also closing. He says yes but I can watch the rest of the game since there's not much time left. He didn't even ask me to buy anything!
I ask him if the bars are closing due to some law on the "Dia De Festival". He says no,"It's just slow".
About five minutes later two guys bounce across the street from Hooters as well.
They say they had just bought one of those tall tubes of beer that probably holds about a six pack when they too heard the announcement. They had to chug their beer really fast or leave it behind.
I didn't expect them to keep the whole staff on for me & a few other cutomers, but the manager could've stuck around for a little while.
Guess where I'm NOT going this Sunday.
Hello, Gentlemen!
Does anyone know of and Horse Racing tracks in Colombia? My research has shown there used to be one in Bogota, but it has closed down because of rumors of too many horses were getting dosed with "marching powder".
I also see a couple ranchos de caballos de carreras one in Bogota, one in Medellin.
I also have seen some clues on the 'net about one in Guarne, Antioquia? Tunja, Boyaca'? Any confirmations?
OD
[QUOTE=Orgasm Donor; 1216611]I also have seen some clues on the 'net about one in Guarne, Antioquia?
OD[/QUOTE]Affirmative. My new girl is from Guarne. 30 minutes from Medellin. Check it out.
[QUOTE=Orgasm Donor; 1216611]Hello, Gentlemen!
Does anyone know of and Horse Racing tracks in Colombia? My research has shown there used to be one in Bogota, but it has closed down because of rumors of too many horses were getting dosed with "marching powder".
I also see a couple ranchos de caballos de carreras one in Bogota, one in Medellin.
I also have seen some clues on the 'net about one in Guarne, Antioquia? Tunja, Boyaca'? Any confirmations?
OD[/QUOTE]One of the reasons I liked Lima was they have a race track there. I need things to do to keep from getting bored on my long trips. I think there used to be a track near the International airport, but it is closed. I would be happy to hear of one opened in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Ezyngo;1216614]Affirmative. My new girl is from Guarne. 30 minutes from Medellin. Check it out.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reply, have you actually been there? Does the track have a website?
I think this would be a great way to spend a day, I love the track because it is a full day of entertainment, and it is something different.
There is only so many chicas, discos, bars, and ecotours I can do. The reason I travel so much is that I like the change of scenery and experiences.
I find it quite odd that in Colombia, a country that is so deeply cultured around horses has an extreme lack of race tracks. Especially in Medellin, where they have the Horse Parade (The Cabalgata). Pablo Escobar used to own dozens of race horses. I have also seen posters of horse shows around Colombia.
If anyone of you have a link to the track website, or have actually been to this track, I'd really appreciate to hear from you.
OD
Kidnapping is alive and well! If you are of some value or high profile you better watch your ass! They want you their going to get you. The trick is to be LOW profile in Colombia.
[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57323558/abducted-major-leaguer-wilson-ramos-rescued/[/url]
Hi guys. Have not been to Colombia in almost 1 year. Returning for thanksgiving. Any advise where I can purchase custom shirts in Bogota? Cannot find info on this forum. Thanks.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1216903]Kidnapping is alive and well! If you are of some value or high profile you better watch your ass! They want you their going to get you. The trick is to be LOW profile in Colombia.
[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57323558/abducted-major-leaguer-wilson-ramos-rescued/[/url][/QUOTE]1) it took place in VENEZUELA.
2) FARC not mentioned in article.
3) the media never tells the whole story
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1216963]1) it took place in VENEZUELA.
2) FARC not mentioned in article.
3) the media never tells the whole story[/QUOTE]1) No shit, who said it took place in Colombia?
2) "Five men were arrested in the kidnapping, including a Colombian "linked to paramilitary groups and to kidnapping groups," El Aissami said." You want to bet there are strong FARC ties or were just talking semantics here?
3) I like the media to get a general essence of the story. I'm sure Chavez has his fingerprints on this in some way.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1216970]1) No shit, who said it took place in Colombia?
2)"Five men were arrested in the kidnapping, including a Colombian "linked to paramilitary groups and to kidnapping groups," El Aissami said." You want to bet there are strong FARC ties or were just talking semantics here?
3) I like the media to get a general essence of the story. I'm sure Chavez has his fingerprints on this in some way.[/QUOTE]If the article mentioned "paramilitary" groups in Colombia then that would not be los Farc. Paramilitary groups are alive and well in Colombia. Since they lost funding from the wealthy and government they have had to branch out in other areas searching for the lost revenue. Same rules that apply on Wall Street.
Thank you, the paras are groups who were formed to GET RID OF FARC!
And really a paramilitary could be just about ANYONE. Any police-army-military etc. Moonlighting as a vigilante or merc qualifies.
Anyways, aside from the guy hearing what he THOUGHT was a Colombian accent this story has nothing whatsoever to do with Colombia.
Yeah besides the hunt to look for the other 4 Colombian men involved, I don't see what this has to do with Colombia either.
"The authorities were still searching for at least four Colombian men who escaped during the rescue, El Aissami said. He did not say whether anyone was wounded in the gun battle."
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/13/wilson-ramos-baseball-kidnap-rescue[/url]
And here are comparitive studies of the likes and differences between the Farc and Paramilitary groups in Colombia.
[url]http://www.brookings.edu/articles/2009/06_criminality_saab.aspx[/url]
"After the fall of the Medellin and and Cali drug cartels in the early 1990s and the subsequent disorganization of the drug market, the AUC and FARC were presented with a unique opportunity to expand their illegal activities. The paramilitaries used the new environment to solidify their participation in the Colombian drug industry and international trafficking and to expand their 'in-house' drug capabilities. FARC remained primarily focused on the domestic protection and production of cocaine and strengthened its links to international criminal organizations to move and distribute drugs."
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1217054]Yeah besides the hunt to look for the other 4 Colombian men involved, I don't see what this has to do with Colombia either.
"The authorities were still searching for at least four Colombian men who escaped during the rescue, El Aissami said. He did not say whether anyone was wounded in the gun battle."
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/13/wilson-ramos-baseball-kidnap-rescue[/url]
And here are comparitive studies of the likes and differences between the Farc and Paramilitary groups in Colombia.
[url]http://www.brookings.edu/articles/2009/06_criminality_saab.aspx[/url]
"After the fall of the Medellin and and Cali drug cartels in the early 1990s and the subsequent disorganization of the drug market, the AUC and FARC were presented with a unique opportunity to expand their illegal activities. The paramilitaries used the new environment to solidify their participation in the Colombian drug industry and international trafficking and to expand their 'in-house' drug capabilities. FARC remained primarily focused on the domestic protection and production of cocaine and strengthened its links to international criminal organizations to move and distribute drugs."[/QUOTE]So fine. That means that Colombian kidnappers now have to do their biz IN VENEZUELA instead of Colombia. Has NOTHING whatsoever to do with travel risk to COLOMBIA!
The paras and FARC both deal in cocaine, but they have been fighting each other for the past 30 years. That's the ONLY thing they have in common.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1217216]So fine. That means that Colombian kidnappers now have to do their biz IN VENEZUELA instead of Colombia. Has NOTHING whatsoever to do with travel risk to COLOMBIA!
The paras and FARC both deal in cocaine, but they have been fighting each other for the past 30 years. That's the ONLY thing they have in common.[/QUOTE]What are you talking about? What it says here is that Colombian paramilitary groups are now expanding their reach into Venezuela as well. (they have probably operating there for years with Chavez's assistance which explains easy border crossing) did they all of a sudden become innocuous and stop all threatening activities in Colombia? LOL.
The paras and FARC are both heavily involved in kidnapping, money laundering, drug dealing, extortion. They probably leave each other alone I'm not sure, where did you see they have been fighting each other for 30 years? I would like to read about that.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1217262]What are you talking about? What it says here is that Colombian paramilitary groups are now expanding their reach into Venezuela as well. (they have probably operating there for years with Chavez's assistance which explains easy border crossing) did they all of a sudden become innocuous and stop all threatening activities in Colombia? LOL.
The paras and FARC are both heavily involved in kidnapping, money laundering, drug dealing, extortion. They probably leave each other alone I'm not sure, where did you see they have been fighting each other for 30 years? I would like to read about that.[/QUOTE]No dude, Chavez has been accused (probably rightly) of collaborating with the FARC NOT the paras.
The whole para thing started 30 years ago with the AUC, which was formed by a bunch of wealthy Colombians with the help of Israeli mercs because they thought the government was being too soft on the rebels and wanted to end things once and for all.
The paras are NOT famous for kidnapping, the FARC and to an extent the ELN have been (although that's really a thing of 15-20 years ago now). The paras have been accused of such things as torture and mass killings in towns they believed were sympathizing with the guerillas.
The paras are extreme right, and the guerillas extreme left, which means if Colombian paras are operating in VEN, Chavez has absolutely no control over his own country, because those are NOT the kind of people he gets in bed with. Please get your facts straight before posting.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1217372]No dude, Chavez has been accused (probably rightly) of collaborating with the FARC NOT the paras.
The whole para thing started 30 years ago with the AUC, which was formed by a bunch of wealthy Colombians with the help of Israeli mercs because they thought the government was being too soft on the rebels and wanted to end things once and for all.
The paras are NOT famous for kidnapping, the FARC and to an extent the ELN have been (although that's really a thing of 15-20 years ago now). The paras have been accused of such things as torture and mass killings in towns they believed were sympathizing with the guerillas.
The paras are extreme right, and the guerillas extreme left, which means if Colombian paras are operating in VEN, Chavez has absolutely no control over his own country, because those are NOT the kind of people he gets in bed with. Please get your facts straight before posting.[/QUOTE]
I add a lot of links because I read a lot and I like to supply my sources. Yeah I know the ole adage "you shouldn't believe everything you read but what else do we have to go by?
I know Chavez has been accused of and probably IS working with the FARC http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/18077-santos-to-speak-with-chavez-about-farc-in-venezuela.html
I would even go as far as to say he probably hires some para (black ops style) as well to do some of his assassinations attempts on his Presidential opponents Like Maria Machado.
This was very brazen. [url]http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/world/2011/11/14/tsr-assissination-attempt.cnn[/url]
Paramilitary groups not famous for kidnapping? That's all their famous for including assassination, drugs and extortion. Who do you think they are claiming is responsible for kidnapping the Washington Nationals player?
As for you comment that kidnapping was a thing of the past? I think was insanely misleading. Kidnappings are UP in Colombia 2011! [url]http://insightcrime.org/insight-latest-news/item/1362-kidnapping-growing-in-colombia-rebels-target-oil-workers[/url]
Please get you facts straight before you post things like insinuating kidnappings are a thing of the past "the FARC and to an extent the ELN have been (although that's really a thing of 15-20 years ago now)"
Kidnappings are alive and well in Colombia it's just that no high profile targets have been accosted YET but try and explain to any of the kidnapped oil workers families that they don't get the nationwide press notoriety because their husband was not "high profile and just an "oil worker"
Phew, That's enough for me tonight.. RD 2 tomorrow.. lol
Anyone have any info on a bus from CTG to MDE? How long a trip, price, and safety. The airfares have went up since the last time I did this trip so looking to save a few bucks. Who better to give it to, the airlines or the Chicas?
[QUOTE=John Gault;1217517]Anyone have any info on a bus from CTG to MDE? How long a trip, price, and safety. The airfares have went up since the last time I did this trip so looking to save a few bucks. Who better to give it to, the airlines or the Chicas?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.expresobrasilia.com/ingles/coberturayrutas.html[/url]
It's safe and like 14 hrs. Try and take a night bus and a sleeping pill.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1217541][url]Http://www.expresobrasilia.com/ingles/coberturayrutas.html[/url]
It's safe and like 14 hrs. Try and take a night bus and a sleeping pill.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.
One the things on my to do list is to get a BJ on a bus or plane. I have had a few driving a car. What better place than Colombia?
Almost forgot, make that a BBBJ.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1217566]Thanks for the info.
One the things on my to do list is to get a BJ on a bus or plane. I have had a few driving a car. What better place than Colombia?
Almost forgot, make that a BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Common bro, Busch League, you become the man when you can get your girl to sit on it after popping a vitamin V in the back of the taxi on the way from poblado to sabeneta. Je je. LOL. (just heard about these kinds of things, not saying I participated)
Hey guys I have a question for the lads with more experience in the Colombian "Market".
I've been talking / bbm'ing / msn'ing / calling to few girls from Cartagena and something very funny happened and it looks like a modus operandi. This is the deal.
After few days of talking and "liking" each other all the sudden they came up with a new msn email address. Asking me to delete the old one and add on the new one.
Because they forgot their password or got hacked.
That happened 3 times with 3 different chicas.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1217383]I add a lot of links because I read a lot and I like to supply my sources. Yeah I know the ole adage "you shouldn't believe everything you read but what else do we have to go by?
I know Chavez has been accused of and probably IS working with the FARC [url]http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/18077-santos-to-speak-with-chavez-about-farc-in-venezuela.html[/url]
I would even go as far as to say he probably hires some para (black ops style) as well to do some of his assassinations attempts on his Presidential opponents Like Maria Machado.
This was very brazen.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/world/2011/11/14/tsr-assissination-attempt.cnn[/url]
Paramilitary groups not famous for kidnapping? That's all their famous for including assassination, drugs and extortion. Who do you think they are claiming is responsible for kidnapping the Washington Nationals player?
As for you comment that kidnapping was a thing of the past? I think was insanely misleading. Kidnappings are UP in Colombia 2011!
[url]http://insightcrime.org/insight-latest-news/item/1362-kidnapping-growing-in-colombia-rebels-target-oil-workers[/url]
Please get you facts straight before you post things like insinuating kidnappings are a thing of the past "the FARC and to an extent the ELN have been (although that's really a thing of 15-20 years ago now)"
Kidnappings are alive and well in Colombia it's just that no high profile targets have been accosted YET but try and explain to any of the kidnapped oil workers families that they don't get the nationwide press notoriety because their husband was not "high profile and just an "oil worker"
Phew, That's enough for me tonight. Road 2 tomorrow. LOL[/QUOTE]In the 90s they were picking people right out of Bogota and Medellin in broad daylight, or on the road from Bogota to Melgar, as well as conducting open attacks on military installations in the cities. Nowadays you have to go way out of your way into the boondocks to be at risk for that sort of thing.
The oil workers getting kidnapped do make the news here, but that's in an area so remote it's impossible to get there by accident. And if you're working for an oil company you better be used to danger the world over by now. If you're working up in northern Canada you could get fired on by one of the First Nations militia too.
I'm no expert, but if I was going to kidnap someone I think I would need to know some background info about my potential victim. Businessmen, corporate employees, baseball stars all sound like good pickings. Gringo monger in town for a week probably a waste of time. Anybody know how many Americans have actually been kidnapped the last few years whose only purpose was some fem attention? I'll guess close to nil.
[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1217640]I'm no expert, but if I was going to kidnap someone I think I would need to know some background info about my potential victim. Businessmen, corporate employees, baseball stars all sound like good pickings. Gringo monger in town for a week probably a waste of time. Anybody know how many Americans have actually been kidnapped the last few years whose only purpose was some fem attention? I'll guess close to nil.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct, kidnapping is the least of a monger's worries while in Colombia. Robberies should be a mongers biggest concern and while I am not trying to be a fear monger here, it is real and it is or should be on everyone's mind when walking the streets. Unfortunately too many guys think that because they haven't experienced it that it doesn't exist or that there is such a slim chance that it will happen to them that they let their guard down or even worse they write on the forum about how safe Colombia is, which in my opinion is doing first timers to the country an injustice.
[QUOTE=Sobaje; 1217588]Hey guys I have a question for the lads with more experience in the Colombian "Market".
I've been talking / bbm'ing / msn'ing / calling to few girls from Cartagena and something very funny happened and it looks like a modus operandi. This is the deal.
After few days of talking and "liking" each other all the sudden they came up with a new msn email address. Asking me to delete the old one and add on the new one.
Because they forgot their password or got hacked.
That happened 3 times with 3 different chicas.[/QUOTE]How did you find these girls.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1217852]You are 100% correct, kidnapping is the least of a monger's worries while in Colombia. Robberies should be a mongers biggest concern and while I am not trying to be a fear monger here, it is real and it is or should be on everyone's mind when walking the streets. Unfortunately too many guys think that because they haven't experienced it that it doesn't exist or that there is such a slim chance that it will happen to them that they let their guard down or even worse they write on the forum about how safe Colombia is, which in my opinion is doing first timers to the country an injustice.[/QUOTE]The big problem for tourists are the paseos millonarios (where a taxi takes you to the ATM and cleans you out) or getting scopolamine put in your drink if you're out alone. ALWAYS call a taxi by phone when out partying in the richer areas at night, especially on the weekends ESPECIALLY around 10 or 11pm. And NEVER leave a drink unattended. I really don't recommend people coming here as tourists go out alone to places EXCEPT the actual brothels. But to the regular bars, it can be risky. I generally go to places where I know the owner and most of the staff, or if not I go in a group.
I see some logical fallacies in BC's post. If one is never to go to unknown places, how is one ever to get to know any owners? Similarly, if one is never to trust anyone, how does one agglomerate a group to go out with? Or to put it another way: your mother told you never to talk to strangers, so you never made any friends. I understand BC is addressing his advice to "tourists." What, exactly, is a "tourist"? A pure tourist would never be mongering, and a monger would never be a pure tourist.
Now BC does make some good points, albeit rather indirectly. The average touron (that is a cross between a tourist and a moron, for those who don't know the term) thinks the "safest thing to do" is to take a taxi. The truth is quite the contrary in most Latin American countries. The taxistas are the ones telling the chorros where the gringos are staying.
1) Never tell the taxi from the airport your real hotel. Have him drop you off at the next closest hotel.
1a) Don't take a taxi in the first place; take a bus and then a taxi and have him drop you off at the next closest hotel.
2) Never have the taxi drop you off in front of the puticlub. Have them drop you at a nearby public location.
"Always call a taxi by phone" is indeed excellent advice, UNLESS you speak no Spanish and have the club call one for you. Then you just fucked yourself. Have the number of an independent taxi service BEFORE you go out, and be prepared with the address of a nearby hotel that is NOT where you are staying. If no Spanish whatsoever, better off having the bartender call you a cab than the doorman.
If there is anyone else in the elevator, or even if there is not, punch the button for one or two floors above where you are really staying and walk down the stairs, after making sure the elevator is closed behind you. This is an excellent security procedure no matter where you are.
Regarding having your drink drugged: Yes, it's a good idea to cover your drink at all times, but that can seem suspicious. Certainly don't go to the head and leave your drink at your seat. The best thing is to be Irish and that way your drink will be empty so fast no one can drug it.
Never trust hotel safes. Someone has a key or the combination. If you DO trust them, change the combination every time you leave the room, and wipe the keypad clean.
Scan the declaration page of your passport, the visa page for your current entry, your driver's license, and a copy of your return ticket. Don't do this in your hotel if you can avoid it. Send these to your e-mail. DO NOT save them to your computer hard drive.
Think about what you have to lose. I am single and childless and old. Not so much to lose. If you have a family depending on you, don't even go to dangerous places like Colombia. Similarly think about that when deciding whether to resist a robbery. If I decide to risk taking someone down with me, that's different than if you decide to do it, and have a wife and kids to support.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1217852]You are 100% correct, kidnapping is the least of a monger's worries while in Colombia. Robberies should be a mongers biggest concern and while I am not trying to be a fear monger here, it is real and it is or should be on everyone's mind when walking the streets. Unfortunately too many guys think that because they haven't experienced it that it doesn't exist or that there is such a slim chance that it will happen to them that they let their guard down or even worse they write on the forum about how safe Colombia is, which in my opinion is doing first timers to the country an injustice.[/QUOTE]Always fair and balanced! A good friend of mine just posted on facebook to send her messages there because she was robbed. She is a dental student and 2 dudes on a moto robbed her at gunpoint and took her purse with everything in it on the autopista. It is a good spot for robberies because then they can just haul ass on the highway. She was more pissed of about having to replace her cedula more than her blackberry. But still the strength and bravery she showed me. So nonchalant. Other girls I know don't leave the house for a week after.
[QUOTE=Sobaje; 1217588]Hey guys I have a question for the lads with more experience in the Colombian "Market".
I've been talking / bbm'ing / msn'ing / calling to few girls from Cartagena and something very funny happened and it looks like a modus operandi. This is the deal.
After few days of talking and "liking" each other all the sudden they came up with a new msn email address. Asking me to delete the old one and add on the new one.
Because they forgot their password or got hacked.
That happened 3 times with 3 different chicas.[/QUOTE]My best guess is the same reason I have multiple accounts, or have deleted almost all of my facebook / myspace / badoo / orkut accounts.
The chicas are very good at internet detective work, and they want to know "who is this chica, who is that chica".
They do not want you to "friend" another "friend" of theirs, and trade info on them, compare notes.
I've been busted a couple times this way, and I no longer do that social networking crap.
Conversely, I have received emails "STOP WRITING TO MY WIFE!"
Social Networks and PM-ing is a MAJOR security and privacy risk.
In their defense, it is very possible that if they go to an internet cafe and forget to properly logout, or forget to uncheck the "remember my password" box.
OD
[QUOTE=PaulGore;1217971]How did you find these girls.[/QUOTE]Colombian Cupid
[QUOTE=Sobaje;1218183]Colombian Cupid[/QUOTE]LOL, Now a days you can just about substitute Colombian Cupid for Romance Latina or Vice Versa. Do the best you can to "vet" them.
These pros and de fact pros periodically change their email addresses to obscure/hide their identities, and to dump suspicious guys and the guys they ripped off.
[QUOTE=Sobaje; 1217588]Hey guys I have a question for the lads with more experience in the Colombian "Market".
I've been talking / bbm'ing / msn'ing / calling to few girls from Cartagena and something very funny happened and it looks like a modus operandi. This is the deal.
After few days of talking and "liking" each other all the sudden they came up with a new msn email address. Asking me to delete the old one and add on the new one.
Because they forgot their password or got hacked.
That happened 3 times with 3 different chicas.[/QUOTE]
And bring a blanket (and a chica). It get's COLD on these buses!
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1217541][url]Http://www.expresobrasilia.com/ingles/coberturayrutas.html[/url]
It's safe and like 14 hrs. Try and take a night bus and a sleeping pill.[/QUOTE]
That's what I thought.
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1218392]These pros and de fact pros periodically change their email addresses to obscure/hide their identities, and to dump suspicious guys and the guys they ripped off.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1218005]I see some logical fallacies in BC's post. If one is never to go to unknown places, how is one ever to get to know any owners? Similarly, if one is never to trust anyone, how does one agglomerate a group to go out with? Or to put it another way: your mother told you never to talk to strangers, so you never made any friends. I understand BC is addressing his advice to "tourists." What, exactly, is a "tourist"? A pure tourist would never be mongering, and a monger would never be a pure tourist.
Now BC does make some good points, albeit rather indirectly. The average touron (that is a cross between a tourist and a moron, for those who don't know the term) thinks the "safest thing to do" is to take a taxi. The truth is quite the contrary in most Latin American countries. The taxistas are the ones telling the chorros where the gringos are staying.
1) Never tell the taxi from the airport your real hotel. Have him drop you off at the next closest hotel.
1a) Don't take a taxi in the first place; take a bus and then a taxi and have him drop you off at the next closest hotel.
2) Never have the taxi drop you off in front of the puticlub. Have them drop you at a nearby public location.
"Always call a taxi by phone" is indeed excellent advice, UNLESS you speak no Spanish and have the club call one for you. Then you just fucked yourself. Have the number of an independent taxi service BEFORE you go out, and be prepared with the address of a nearby hotel that is NOT where you are staying. If no Spanish whatsoever, better off having the bartender call you a cab than the doorman.
If there is anyone else in the elevator, or even if there is not, punch the button for one or two floors above where you are really staying and walk down the stairs, after making sure the elevator is closed behind you. This is an excellent security procedure no matter where you are.
Regarding having your drink drugged: Yes, it's a good idea to cover your drink at all times, but that can seem suspicious. Certainly don't go to the head and leave your drink at your seat. The best thing is to be Irish and that way your drink will be empty so fast no one can drug it.
Never trust hotel safes. Someone has a key or the combination. If you DO trust them, change the combination every time you leave the room, and wipe the keypad clean.
Scan the declaration page of your passport, the visa page for your current entry, your driver's license, and a copy of your return ticket. Don't do this in your hotel if you can avoid it. Send these to your e-mail. DO NOT save them to your computer hard drive.
Think about what you have to lose. I am single and childless and old. Not so much to lose. If you have a family depending on you, don't even go to dangerous places like Colombia. Similarly think about that when deciding whether to resist a robbery. If I decide to risk taking someone down with me, that's different than if you decide to do it, and have a wife and kids to support.[/QUOTE]Here in Bogota in Santa Fe (the Zona Roja) it's actually better to have the club call one for you. The actual "puticlubs" as you put it, generally are above board because they have reputations to protect. And just stepping out on the street after dark in Santa Fe is a pickpocketing risk, as well as a mugging one! I'm not the kind of guy to balk at walking dangerous streets but Santa Fe is really something else. I've never personally had a problem there but I've seen enough shit go down. I almost always have gone alone to Santa Fe but I do it during the day.
I really recommend people here as tourists and don't know anybody to NOT go to any of the "normal" pick up joints for that reason. Go straight for the straight up brothels instead. Especially if you're going to be drinking. I think drinking and getting drunk alone in a bar just about ANYWHERE on Earth is stupid and risky, but here it's just pure insanity. Best to come at least with a wingman or make some local friends before you do those sorts of plans. This includes thinking twice about that "non-pro" that invited you. She's probably not really so much of a "non-pro" and if you got a live one you could be in for the setup of your life. Make her meet at YOUR hotel (don't give previous notice of it either) or at neutral places. Don't EVER let her choose the meeting place until you've established some familiarity with her.
Sounds like your paranoid bigtime! Believe me know one wants anything to do with your dusty old ass.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1218694]Here in Bogota in Santa Fe (the Zona Roja) it's actually better to have the club call one for you. The actual "puticlubs" as you put it, generally are above board because they have reputations to protect. And just stepping out on the street after dark in Santa Fe is a pickpocketing risk, as well as a mugging one! I'm not the kind of guy to balk at walking dangerous streets but Santa Fe is really something else. I've never personally had a problem there but I've seen enough shit go down. I almost always have gone alone to Santa Fe but I do it during the day.
I really recommend people here as tourists and don't know anybody to NOT go to any of the "normal" pick up joints for that reason. Go straight for the straight up brothels instead. Especially if you're going to be drinking. I think drinking and getting drunk alone in a bar just about ANYWHERE on Earth is stupid and risky, but here it's just pure insanity. Best to come at least with a wingman or make some local friends before you do those sorts of plans. This includes thinking twice about that "non-pro" that invited you. She's probably not really so much of a "non-pro" and if you got a live one you could be in for the setup of your life. Make her meet at YOUR hotel (don't give previous notice of it either) or at neutral places. Don't EVER let her choose the meeting place until you've established some familiarity with her.[/QUOTE]
Reading about the recent exchanges regarding safety in Colombia and all the tips that come with it on how to avoid unpleasant situations made me wonder if one is supposed to get in James-Bond-mode while travelling around the world looking for some strange ass.
Not really.
I actually wonder why on earth would you travel in the first place if you're to look over your shoulder constantly in paranoy.
All one needs to do is being sensible in the way he behaves and carries himself, knowing that Colombia, as well as many other different places around the world is not exactly the same as Disney World and that things such as muggings do happen there on a regular basis.
For the record, it is just plain suicidal to consider anything else but compliance in the case one is actually being mugged in Colombia (or anywhere else for that matter). Make life easier for yourself and only carry around things you're OK with eventually parting with, without blinking an eye; modest amounts of money, no watch, a cheap mobile phone. Know that no material possessions are worth losing your life for and that muggers are either crackheads or mindless desperados and you can't rely on them to make the right decisions, you have to know what's best doing in the situation you find yourself in.
You need not to be fooled by a false sense of security just because you don't see things happening around you, if you're on stranger lands chances are that you're not actually seeing what's REALLY going on around you. I see tourists getting off the plane in the city I'm from wearing Rolex and I shake my head in disbelief because I know full well that they've got pretty good chances of being shot at over it.
It doesn't necessairly mean that you can't wear a Rolex around there, as a local I know there is almost no danger wearing it in most neighborhoods (ironically enough, none of the safe neighborhoods happens to be the kind of place where a tourist would be in to begin with and the tourist areas are all dangerous to some degree), but just as well I take it off and slip in my pocket as I go trough the city centre because I know better and I don't need to complicate my life for a watch.
As an out of towner one can't match the level of awareness of a local, and sadly it is often a fine line between the dos and the don'ts. You don't want to be on the wrong side of the line so for your own sake, play it safe, it's no rocket science after all.
Also, it might be useful to come to terms with the fact that if you go around wide enough and long enough, you will eventually find yourself in certain situations, so I think it's better to be prepared and knowing what to do to get yourself out of it as safely and quickly as possible instead of living life constantly wiping your fingerprints from the safe and taking rounds around the block as if you got strangers waiting with guns around the corner looking to take your life away.
Make your life easier! Be SENSIBLE!
Bless
[QUOTE=You Can;1218715]Sounds like your paranoid bigtime! Believe me know one wants anything to do with your dusty old ass.[/QUOTE]Not at all. I'm the one famous for resisting robberies and fighting with would-be muggers.
The advice I gave I think is just common sense that should apply the world around when mongering. I had a friend in NYC stupid enough to follow a SW to her place to do the deed. He had the girl on all fours and her pimp jumps out the closet and puts a knife at his throat.
Hello.
Is it legal with porno in Colombia? I have found some Colombian porno sites, very rudimentary.
It should be cheap to produce and there is a vast amount of girls who would do it for a fraction of what a US pornostars salary. We have seen Jake in Brasil, Mike in Brasil etc.
There are lot of video sexchat girls from Colombia. I actually stay in touch with one of them, the other is a model (but claims she works in advertizing, due to her nice flat in Laureles, Medellin).
Anybody has had any thoughts about this?
My point of view is to let my females friend fotographer make the videos and try to get a contract with a production company in the US or Europe and recieve the revenues. While, I, or other anglo-saxons have sex for free. With awesome colombianas.
Any suggestions?
[QUOTE=LittleTruths;1218856]Make life easier for yourself and only carry around things you're OK with eventually parting with, without blinking an eye; modest amounts of money, no watch, a cheap mobile phone. Know that no material possessions are worth losing your life for and that muggers are either crackheads or mindless desperados and you can't rely on them to make the right decisions, you have to know what's best doing in the situation you find yourself in.[/QUOTE]Agreed.
I'll add my 5 cents. I've been to Colombia 6 or 7 times and consider it to be one of the safest countries to travel to. I always take my (not Rolex) but big and expensive watch to Cartagena. There are many apartment and other foreign business owners who live there worry free, I can't see why they would choose me a target rather than them. I dress nice but do not bring my watch to Bogota. The only thing that makes me a bit nervous is catching a taxi from that seedy barrio with the street with all the strip clubs (I forgot what it's called). It's a bit of a drive and I don't know the city well. But you have to act like you know and appear aware and sober. I still don't know how to deal with this situation. Best thing to do might be to have your hotel call an official taxi for you and then make a deal with the driver where he will wait for you for a flat rate. I have heard that taxi muggings happen in Argentina and Colombia but don't know anyone personally who had been robbed.
One thing I would be careful about in Cartagena is carrying anything illegal on self. I have seen cops stop and search tourist, and my friends have been searched while walking home with a girl from LDV. Leave your party favor in your apartment if you must do them. Other than that your biggest risks are being run over by a taxi or bitten by a beach dog.
I have paranoia going to Mexico, and I don't get those who travel to any destination other than a resort in a large touristy city like Cancun, certainly not Acapulco. I would not go anywhere near Mexico border towns. Tourists are targets and there are some pretty bad statistics. Another destination is Venezuela, I think going to the capital is suicidal.
[QUOTE=VikingoLoco; 1221005]Is it legal with porno in Colombia? I have found some Colombian porno sites, very rudimentary.
It should be cheap to produce and there is a vast amount of girls who would do it for a fraction of what a US pornostars salary. We have seen Jake in Brasil, Mike in Brasil etc.[/QUOTE]Yes it is and you're not the first to think of it.
[QUOTE=VikingoLoco;1221005]Anybody has had any thoughts about this?[/QUOTE]I actually used to know some dude who ran one such operation with live porn or some like that, based in Canada, and as I recall one of the studios where they had the dirty going on was precisely in Colombia, so I guess it's fair play.
Nacho Vidal (Evil Angel Productions) is making porno in Colombia.
[QUOTE=VikingoLoco; 1221005]Hello.
Is it legal with porno in Colombia? I have found some Colombian porno sites, very rudimentary.
It should be cheap to produce and there is a vast amount of girls who would do it for a fraction of what a US pornostars salary. We have seen Jake in Brasil, Mike in Brasil etc.
There are lot of video sexchat girls from Colombia. I actually stay in touch with one of them, the other is a model (but claims she works in advertizing, due to her nice flat in Laureles, Medellin).
Anybody has had any thoughts about this?
My point of view is to let my females friend fotographer make the videos and try to get a contract with a production company in the US or Europe and recieve the revenues. While, I, or other anglo-saxons have sex for free. With awesome colombianas.
Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Colombian Peso: Today it is 1950. 50 to $1 USD. Good for folks there now converting USD. By the way, I got the best rates at BOG domestic terminal than in CTG (not by much) but for those of you that care about 75 peso difference, they may want to try that.
[QUOTE=Latin Lover77; 1183518]So my girl in Barranquilla gave me a number to call her and I am having one helava time trying to call. I got a 300* number and I'm trying to call from the US using a calling card. This dumb calling card says to call the card number for my area, enter the pin, dial 011 to reach out of country numbers, and then I found through websites that I have to dial 57 before the number she gave. Problem is that it doesn't work. Another website says that things are different for home pays as compared to cell phones. Can someone please PM me and help me out. I was suppose to call tonight but since it didn't go through I would like to try again tomorrow. Not sure it matter, but I'm calling from Washington DC. Any help appreciated.
Sidenote- Got my trip planned for Oct-31-Nov. 6 for any of you traveling to Barranquilla.[/QUOTE]Whatever happened to this guy? See that is why many people do not like giving out information because most do not report back.
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but some of the posts lately on the Colombia board are unreal. It is like guys are coming out of the wood work. Although I must say it is worse on the DR board. There is a guy on there advertizing about how he likes when the girls use a strap on for him.
I don't know what is worse these new posts or guys asking about a Help type Disco in MDE.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1222654]Whatever happened to this guy? See that is why many people do not like giving out information because most do not report back.[/QUOTE]Mr. E If you look at the new posters who ask a lot of questions without really trying to read the forum then when you look back after their trip most likely you will not see a trip report. After all it takes a little effort to give some info back instead of always looking to be spoon fed.
Most of the Mongers I meet on my adventures are great guys so I still try to give out intel while on the ground, but your right, it does get old after a while.
I am returning to Barranquilla in January. Last time I stayed at the Sonesta Hotel. It was nice an luxurious. But holy crap I spent a lot just for a room to sleep in at night and internet, though the buffet breakfast was nice and made me fat for the entire day. My first trip was in October and it was my first time meeting my girl and I had a blast. She lived in La Paz which is in the moutain area of Barranquilla and quite a poor living but the people were friendly and NOBODY asked me for money. I did buy 2 50lb bags of rice for my girls family and the smiles on their faces was beyond gratifying. I also bought chocolates for the neighborhood children who all sang the aphabets and danced for the candy. We made it into a game.
So this is my question. Where the hell can I find a decent place to stay for under US $100 a night? I want to stay longer than my previous 5 days and a nice hotel is about US $1300. Way too much and I know there are hourly motels that have jacuzzis and wetbars but none come up on google search. With someone with expereince in BAQ be able to point some out. My girl is primary in LA Paz and just not familiar with the motels but has heard of the.
[url]http://www.elhotelcontinental.com/english/welcome.html[/url]
I stayed there 18 months ago, and it was 90K a night. In the North part of town. A very safe area near the collage. One of my favorites in Latin America.
BTW, the Non Pros in BAQ are as hot as the weather there.
Try Hotel San Francisco.
[QUOTE=Latin Lover77; 1224393]I am returning to Barranquilla in January. Last time I stayed at the Sonesta Hotel. It was nice an luxurious. But holy crap I spent a lot just for a room to sleep in at night and internet, though the buffet breakfast was nice and made me fat for the entire day. My first trip was in October and it was my first time meeting my girl and I had a blast. She lived in La Paz which is in the moutain area of Barranquilla and quite a poor living but the people were friendly and NOBODY asked me for money. I did buy 2 50lb bags of rice for my girls family and the smiles on their faces was beyond gratifying. I also bought chocolates for the neighborhood children who all sang the aphabets and danced for the candy. We made it into a game.
So this is my question. Where the hell can I find a decent place to stay for under US $100 a night? I want to stay longer than my previous 5 days and a nice hotel is about US $1300. Way too much and I know there are hourly motels that have jacuzzis and wetbars but none come up on google search. With someone with expereince in BAQ be able to point some out. My girl is primary in LA Paz and just not familiar with the motels but has heard of the.[/QUOTE]
An alternative to a hotel may be an apartment, however it is without breakfast, swimming pool etc. For example Alvaro Jesus is 150 000 COP per night. Small apartments have a living room with open kitchen and a bedroom. The building is close to hotel del Prado Carrera 53 # 91-100. In Colombia motels are usually love hotels where one rents a room per 3 hours or so. However they have special and attractive all day offers during the week Monday to Thursday. Rooms in motels can be quite luxury. I do not know if it is a good idea to go to one with your girlfriend.
[QUOTE=Latin Lover77;1224393]So this is my question. Where the hell can I find a decent place to stay for under US $100 a night? I want to stay longer than my previous 5 days and a nice hotel is about US $1300. Way too much and I know there are hourly motels that have jacuzzis and wetbars but none come up on google search. With someone with expereince in BAQ be able to point some out. My girl is primary in LA Paz and just not familiar with the motels but has heard of the.[/QUOTE]
I agree with a lot of negative opinions about Spirit on the other thread. Whenever they cheat you, you should file a complaint to the USA Dept of transportation and Federal Trade Commission. Here are the links.
[url]http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/problems.htm[/url]
[url]https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en[/url]
Also, please keep records and gather evidences. Please keep records of the names of representatives, and who did what on what time. If a representative promised you a compensation or others, you write "refund$100","hotel", etc, on a paper and have him / her sign. If s / he refused to sign, take a picture of her.
I have filed a few complaints against Spirit and Orbitz. They sent me apologies and refunded some amount of money. They are very scared of the federal agencies.
Hey everybody,
I have a little question for you fellows. I'm going to Colombia on a student visa. I'm going to apply for the visa soon. I have a little problem, I have a criminal record of 2 cases of battery (assault) and 1 of breaking. Two of the covictions are from 2004 and one is from 2006. I have no outstanding warrants of arrest, I'm not on bail nor on parole. The last conviction is almost 6 years old. And its a chapter of my life I'm forgetting. Do you think I will be denied the visa or will I get it easly? I'm a little nervous, hope you can help.
Thank you
[QUOTE=Ronycueros; 1225017]Hey everybody,
I have a little question for you fellows. I'm going to Colombia on a student visa. I'm going to apply for the visa soon. I have a little problem, I have a criminal record of 2 cases of battery (assault) and 1 of breaking. Two of the covictions are from 2004 and one is from 2006. I have no outstanding warrants of arrest, I'm not on bail nor on parole. The last conviction is almost 6 years old. And its a chapter of my life I'm forgetting. Do you think I will be denied the visa or will I get it easly? I'm a little nervous, hope you can help.
Thank you[/QUOTE]I think you should find a legitimate Colombian forum where there are plenty of "legal experts" on Colombian law to assist you. Even thought there are many knowledgeable members here, none of us claim to be experts on Colombian law or immigration. This is a SEX forum and SOME of us are somewhat "experts" on that LOL. With that said my gut feeling is that if the cases have been adjudicated already I don't think it should be a problem.
I've been to Medellin twice, (sadly not recently enough) and although I love blonde northern European women, was extremely impressed by the girls I met there. In fact, I was under the impression that the Paisas were the real treasure of Colombia. But this weekend I attended a Colombian wedding here in Cali. This crowd was from Bogota (and obviously upper crust) but OMG these were the hottest women I've ever met. And even hotter when they started to dance. Normally I'm partial to young (18-22) but in this crowd the 30-40's were definitely doing it for me. I doubt there were any Prepagos among them, so I'm not reccomending Bogota for P4P, just saying there are some stunning women from there, and I thank God for that.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1222735]Mr. E If you look at the new posters who ask a lot of questions without really trying to read the forum then when you look back after their trip most likely you will not see a trip report. After all it takes a little effort to give some info back instead of always looking to be spoon fed.
Most of the Mongers I meet on my adventures are great guys so I still try to give out intel while on the ground, but your right, it does get old after a while.[/QUOTE]Dear Mr. Gault:
1) I read and appreciate your postings.
2) I do agree that there are many newbies who don't read the forum, ask a lot of questions and never give back and that is certainely frustrating.
3) When I was a newbie, planning my first trip (which was to Thailand) I read hundreds, maybe thousands of pages of forums before I asked a question But, being a Newbie I still had a lot of questions and anxiety which a few generous souls took the time to answer. Was that information in the forums? Maybe, but I didn't know how to extract it and need the advice of my "brothers". I have tried to give back some information, certainly I haven't given as much as you have (but then I haven; t YET been able to have as many adventures.
4) So, while I think RTFF! Is always good advice, I also believe that we promote and enhance the hobby by sharing intel with mongers at every level, hoping they will appreciate what they were given and reciprocate / I know that's why I'm here.
Best,
Errol
[QUOTE=Errol Flynn;1228270]3) When I was a newbie, planning my first trip (which was to Thailand) I read hundreds, maybe thousands of pages of forums before I asked a question But, being a Newbie I still had a lot of questions and anxiety which a few generous souls took the time to answer. Was that information in the forums? Maybe, but I didn't know how to extract it and need the advice of my "brothers". I have tried to give back some information, certainly I haven't given as much as you have (but then I haven; t YET been able to have as many adventures.[/QUOTE]When I was planning my first trip to Thailand I asked something in the Bangkok thread and I think it was Old Thai Hand or somebody who told me to RTFF. Ever since I have been RTFF. Now I live in Thailand and enjoy telling others to RTFF!
[QUOTE=Errol Flynn;1228267]I've been to Medellin twice, (sadly not recently enough) and although I love blonde northern European women, was extremely impressed by the girls I met there. In fact, I was under the impression that the Paisas were the real treasure of Colombia. But this weekend I attended a Colombian wedding here in Cali. This crowd was from Bogota (and obviously upper crust) but OMG these were the hottest women I've ever met. And even hotter when they started to dance. Normally I'm partial to young (18-22) but in this crowd the 30-40's were definitely doing it for me. I doubt there were any Prepagos among them, so I'm not reccomending Bogota for P4P, just saying there are some stunning women from there, and I thank God for that.[/QUOTE]I guarantee you 80% of them have a price.
There are hot women in every city in Colombia, that's why you shouldn't confine yourself to one "gringo sanctuary" city like 90% of the mongers going to Medellin. I like to get out and explore, there you can still find the hot humble woman but unfortunately those locales now have to "Vaulted"
Every woman has a price! American women and every other kind, married, unmarried, hate to break it but they all have a price. Even the rich ones, because they all want more. I will take a pay for play any day, its much cheaper in the end. I been with 1200. Per hour girls and with 20. 00 one hit girls. I don't even care if there really nice looking, doesn't matter as long as I have a good time and happy when they leave. I love honest women. Pay me and I am happy! There the women I love. Upfront and no bullshit.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1228371]I guarantee you 80% of them have a price.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1228371]I guarantee you 80% of them have a price.[/QUOTE]There are only two types of women on this earth. They are either a prepago or a post pago.
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Does anyone know how to step the incredible number of Movistar promotional text messages I receive? For every regular text message I must get 5 advertisements! It's a prepago phone. Just like my women. Thanks in advance.
A.
[QUOTE=Artful; 1230791]Does anyone know how to step the incredible number of Movistar promotional text messages I receive? For every regular text message I must get 5 advertisements! It's a prepago phone. Just like my women. Thanks in advance.
A.[/QUOTE]With Tigo you get recorded voicemails as well. Nothing you can do, part of the prepago phone thing. Unless you have a Galaxy SII or some rooted Android 2. 3.4 phone that will allow you to block calls and texts using certain parameters. Like "no texts from a number not in my contacts list"
Also Tigo starts sending their messages before 8AM.
[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1236647]With Tigo you get recorded voicemails as well. Nothing you can do, part of the prepago phone thing. Unless you have a Galaxy SII or some rooted Android 2. 3.4 phone that will allow you to block calls and texts using certain parameters. Like "no texts from a number not in my contacts list"
Also Tigo starts sending their messages before 8AM.[/QUOTE]Best solucion, Comcel. As long as you're not on the Atlantic Coast or another area where Comcel coverage is subpar. Then you assed out! :P
[QUOTE=Artful;1230791]Does anyone know how to step the incredible number of Movistar promotional text messages I receive? For every regular text message I must get 5 advertisements! It's a prepago phone. Just like my women. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I hate when that happens with Movistar. I get all hyped up thinking it's a chick then look at it and it's some bullshit.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1228378]There are hot women in every city in Colombia, that's why you shouldn't confine yourself to one "gringo sanctuary" city like 90% of the mongers going to Medellin. I like to get out and explore, there you can still find the hot humble woman but unfortunately those locales now have to "Vaulted"[/QUOTE]I find Medellíand close to perfect, but I'm curiosm if you have found other waterholes! (which you imply)
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1238088]Motorcycles are my third love behind God and family, but there are too many problems associated with riding in Colombia. Criminals are one aspect, but I hear alot about some " no passenger" law that is coming.
You might want to switch this topic over to the " general info" section, because they have some rough boys here in the Medellin forum, who will chew our asses up.[/QUOTE]Are you saying they won't allow a passenger on any bike? Some of these bikes have bigger engines than a small car! It would be a shame to pass such a law.
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1238174]Zig Monger.
DAS will not disband, maybe change their name if that but still will be doing the same job.
DAS has records of all tourists and where they stay, even if they are in apartments because its law for the apartment renter to supply that information to them, if he does not then he is breaking colombian law.
Mr GoGo.
What a way to see Colombia, I'd do it but for the rain here but I'd rather drive, I'm no spring chicken any more and I've nearly seen every thing that I want to see.
We here at the hotel have hosted many bikers from the BMW group travelling from Alaska to Cape Hope or what ever its called to single Harley bikers.
I have some Australian sea captain friends who sail from Portobello in Panama to Cartagena and they are always bringing bikers with there bikes.
AG.[/QUOTE]Aussie, good point about the rain. Isn't there are a narrow window of couple of weeks some time in the year when it is expected to be dry or does it rain all the time?
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1238188]Are you saying they won't allow a passenger on any bike? Some of these bikes have bigger engines than a small car! It would be a shame to pass such a law.[/QUOTE]From what I understand, most robberies are committed by guys riding as passengers brandishing guns. I feel what you want to do. Here is a beautiful country and what better way to explore it than on a bike. Maybe a group event like Greg suggested might be best, but riding alone could be risky.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1238188]Are you saying they won't allow a passenger on any bike? Some of these bikes have bigger engines than a small car! It would be a shame to pass such a law.[/QUOTE]On another note, Cali has outlawed TWO guys on a motorcycle like 5 years ago in an attempt to try and curb robberies and assassinations. Mixed couple no problem. So its not like you'll be carrying a male passenger around with you all the time I don't think but its a big no no.
I was in Medellin in September and had movilstar service. I would like to activate my phone before I return, if I could. I kept my sim card and phone number Can I add minutes to my phone on the internet? How do I know if I will have the same number? Thanks gents.
[QUOTE=EstebanH;1238291]Can I add minutes to my phone on the internet? Thanks gents.[/QUOTE]You can try here:
[url]https://www.aryty.com[/url]
All the best.
/CPH
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1238209]On another note, Cali has outlawed TWO guys on a motorcycle like 5 years ago in an attempt to try and curb robberies and assassinations. Mixed couple no problem. So its not like you'll be carrying a male passenger around with you all the time I don't think but its a big no no.[/QUOTE]Thank you both (MHL and Mr. Gogo). I am not planning on riding with another guy for sure. I am planning on doing this with one other buddy on two motorcycles and this guy looks like a robber too. A bigger group might be a bit restrictive in terms of spontaneous mongering opportunities.
[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1238464]In Medellin, seeing the Motorcycle riders zip between the cars is amazing. I can't believe that there aren't a couple of dozen killed each week. You Gringo riders do that when you're in Colombia? Just wondering[/QUOTE]I do that routinely. Part of the fun riding on a bike. You just pass the cars sitting there like they are in a parking lot. It can be intimidating if you are not an experienced driver. I rode in Italy once with a friend who refused to do it (he is from California) and I don't ride with him anymore.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1238591]I do that routinely. Part of the fun riding on a bike. You just pass the cars sitting there like they are in a parking lot. It can be intimidating if you are not an experienced driver. I rode in Italy once with a friend who refused to do it (he is from California) and I don't ride with him anymore.[/QUOTE]Respectfully speaking, but even if you are a veteran rider you can never predict what the other driver will do. Some people freeze up when they see bikes zooming by, and one tilt of the wheel can mean serious problems for the rider. We have to watch for tourists who will pop a "U turn" right in front of us. We have to watch for elderly people who freeze up and brake for no reson. I would never cancel a friend because he wanted to be safe and make it home to his family.
This post is about attitude and not directly about mongering and may be considered boring by less sensitive individuals. Please skip it if you find emotionally sensitive content offensive. HA.
Not a hundred percent sure of the meaning behind Vitrea's post. But as someone else also picked up on, it kind of comes across like he doesn't ride with his friend anymore because he couldn't keep up. Hey! Slow down once in a while. You'll do yourself and everyone around you a world of good. An opportunity to break a routine can be a good thing.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1238591]I do that routinely. Part of the fun riding on a bike. You just pass the cars sitting there like they are in a parking lot. It can be intimidating if you are not an experienced driver. I rode in Italy once with a friend who refused to do it (he is from California) and I don't ride with him anymore.[/QUOTE]
I have tried to reach Colombia Jake re: his services. No response from the only web address I have found thus far. I'm seeking current contact info, reviews & opinions.
Thank you
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1238817]Respectfully speaking, but even if you are a veteran rider you can never predict what the other driver will do. Some people freeze up when they see bikes zooming by, and one tilt of the wheel can mean serious problems for the rider. We have to watch for tourists who will pop a "U turn" right in front of us. We have to watch for elderly people who freeze up and brake for no reson. I would never cancel a friend because he wanted to be safe and make it home to his family.[/QUOTE]Mr Gogo and Hasideas Tao, I was mostly joking but I know what you are saying. No worries. He is my best friend and I will never dump him as a friend. I don't ride with him for other reasons.
I'm planning a trip to Colombia this year and have a some questions on phones in Colombia.
Do a lot of chicas in Colombia like in other countries use blackberries because BBM is free and the best way to keep in contact with people?
The reason I ask because I have an unlocked blackberry and I found BBM really convenient when keeping in touch with chicas when I'm in another country.
Here's another question. Is it easy to by a sim card I'm Medellin and will it work with my unlocked phone?
Thanks.
AMB
[QUOTE=Amb832; 1240519]I'm planning a trip to Colombia this year and have a some questions on phones in Colombia.
Do a lot of chicas in Colombia like in other countries use blackberries because BBM is free and the best way to keep in contact with people?
The reason I ask because I have an unlocked blackberry and I found BBM really convenient when keeping in touch with chicas when I'm in another country.
Here's another question. Is it easy to by a sim card I'm Medellin and will it work with my unlocked phone?
Thanks
AMB[/QUOTE]Yo. YES! Chicas love I'm / BBM just like girls in the states! Actually most of the "regular girls" I have had the pleasure of becoming friends with all have black berrys and alaways ask what's my pin.
Sim cards are easy to find, in most every mall at the Tigo, Movistar, or Comcel store you should be able to get a sim card, or even at the kiosks at super markets should have them. I got mine at a internet cafe (not too many in the gringo areas of Medellin surprisingly) in Olviedo mall for a few bucks.
I have a cheap phone I got jailbroke in Peru that wroked all over South America (Argentina is on a different systyem as I can tell so it did not work there) so I'm guessing yours should work.
Hi,
I have 2 months holiday and I want to spend it in on location if possible. I usually go to Pattaya as it has EVERYTHING. But latino women make my heart skip a beat. Is it possible in Cartegna to do the following:
* learn spanish and dancing for 2 months.
* do a bootcamp / get a personal trainer for 2 months to lose weight.
* hire an apartment that allows guests (and ideally asks for their I'd to be left behind while the guest is in the apartment)
* have ST and LT fun.
* good time to go in Jun-Aug.
What sort of costs will I be looking at?
[QUOTE=Kute Guy; 1241094]Hi,
I have 2 months holiday and I want to spend it in on location if possible. I usually go to Pattaya as it has EVERYTHING. But latino women make my heart skip a beat. Is it possible in Cartegna to do the following:[/QUOTE]The fun factor will not compare to Pattaya, but life is all about different experiences. It is good that you have a game plan and do not plan on just chasing women. Otherwise, it would be a long 2 months.
[QUOTE=Kute Guy; 1241094]Hi,
I have 2 months holiday and I want to spend it in on location if possible. I usually go to Pattaya as it has EVERYTHING. But latino women make my heart skip a beat. Is it possible in Cartegna to do the following:
* learn spanish and dancing for 2 months.
* do a bootcamp / get a personal trainer for 2 months to lose weight.
* hire an apartment that allows guests (and ideally asks for their I'd to be left behind while the guest is in the apartment)
* have ST and LT fun.
* good time to go in Jun-Aug.
What sort of costs will I be looking at?[/QUOTE]* You should be able to learn to Speak and Dance no problem. Both lessons can be found at an institute.
* Bootcamp? I guess you could hire a personal trainer but one that speaks English I'm not sure.
* If you rent a spot it's your; you just have to responsible for the behavior of your guests like it was your actual apartment. Most places have a no loud parties clause IMO.
*I'm guessing ST is Short Term and LT is Long Term, If I am correct then yes you should be set and there should be no issue.
* Google the Time frame to check on the weather and be sure to check for holidays. Colombians love 3 day weekends and they all run off to the Mountains and such so all the big cities dry up and become ghost tows.
Good luck and report back
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1241133]The fun factor will not compare to Pattaya, but life is all about different experiences. It is good that you have a game plan and do not plan on just chasing women. Otherwise, it would be a long 2 months.[/QUOTE]Always a problem for me on the long trips I take is the boredom factor. After you see the sites in a location then you find yourself with too much time on your hands till you do your huntng. I'm 42 days in Colombia, and had to get out of MDE as I was bored. I'm in Santa Marta now as I love the beach. Problem is the water is very cold. Of the 6 days I have been here I have only been able to swim one day.
I think I will have to reconsider Lima again as I can bet American horse racing there. This kills the afternoon, and leaves me the night for the hunt. Also the DR has horse racing, I think, but I'm not sure. Anyone know of other areas where I could bet on USA races please PM me. I'm not interested in Purto Rico (sic) as it is too expensive there for me.
[QUOTE=John Gault;1241272]I'm 42 days in Colombia, and had to get out of MDE as I was bored. I'm in Santa Marta now as I love the beach. Problem is the water is very cold. Of the 6 days I have been here I have only been able to swim one day.[/QUOTE]Maybe the water will warm up soon. I went diving there in Taganga (just over the mountain) a couple of Februarys ago and the water was not cold at all.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1241272]Always a problem for me on the long trips I take is the boredom factor. After you see the sites in a location then you find yourself with too much time on your hands till you do your huntng. I'm 42 days in Colombia, and had to get out of MDE as I was bored. I'm in Santa Marta now as I love the beach. Problem is the water is very cold. Of the 6 days I have been here I have only been able to swim one day.
I think I will have to reconsider Lima again as I can bet American horse racing there. This kills the afternoon, and leaves me the night for the hunt. Also the DR has horse racing, I think, but I'm not sure. Anyone know of other areas where I could bet on USA races please PM me. I'm not interested in Purto Rico (sic) as it is too expensive there for me.[/QUOTE]I have been hitting up Medellin for about 3 (ish) years now and I agree. Medellin can be boring! I have a good buddy who lives down there and I can remember him saying ". Well if you're not fucking constantly there ain't shit to do!" hahahhaha!
There are just so many variations of going out drinking and partying that you can do. Diner at Lleres (The Food is HORRIBLE in Colombia and really bad in Medellin, Going to clubs, bar hoping, The finca or little villages for a weekend, casino for small stakes, and going to the mall. That's it! Other than Chicas.
I spend my time taking on line classes, helping out my novia run errands, work out a bit (Walking-Jog combo for a few miles every day or at least I try to) and casas.
Medellin is a boring city once you get over the "Newness" of it all.
[QUOTE=Kute Guy; 1241094]Hi,
I have 2 months holiday and I want to spend it in on location if possible. I usually go to Pattaya as it has EVERYTHING. But latino women make my heart skip a beat. Is it possible in Cartegna to do the following:
* learn spanish and dancing for 2 months.
* do a bootcamp / get a personal trainer for 2 months to lose weight.
* hire an apartment that allows guests (and ideally asks for their I'd to be left behind while the guest is in the apartment)
* have ST and LT fun.
* good time to go in Jun-Aug.
What sort of costs will I be looking at?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure about Cartagena, but you'll be able to do all of that in Cali. PM me and I'll help you out.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1241272]Always a problem for me on the long trips I take is the boredom factor. After you see the sites in a location then you find yourself with too much time on your hands till you do your huntng. I'm 42 days in Colombia, and had to get out of MDE as I was bored. I'm in Santa Marta now as I love the beach. Problem is the water is very cold. Of the 6 days I have been here I have only been able to swim one day.
I think I will have to reconsider Lima again as I can bet American horse racing there. This kills the afternoon, and leaves me the night for the hunt. Also the DR has horse racing, I think, but I'm not sure. Anyone know of other areas where I could bet on USA races please PM me. I'm not interested in Purto Rico (sic) as it is too expensive there for me.[/QUOTE]What I've recently learned is to prepare better for my down times. I now take a couple dvds that I haven't seen and stock the room with water, beer, and snacks. I've been in Sosua when I go straight from the airport to the hotel and hit the strip without even unpacking. You just want to jump on the merry-go-round that bad. We tend to run ourselves ragged trying not to miss anything, but our bodies need quality down time to add to the balance we need.
When I'm in Medellin I go till 4am, then sleep til 2pm, but I missed out on getting the jump on starting something fresh early. I'm also learning that my travels should not be based just on pussy. I need the culture. Taking a tourist trip (no pussy) , hanging out with the locals, feeling the vibe of the expirience is my motivation.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1241306]I have been hitting up Medellin for about 3 (ish) years now and I agree. Medellin can be boring! I have a good buddy who lives down there and I can remember him saying ". Well if you're not fucking constantly there ain't shit to do!" hahahhaha!
There are just so many variations of going out drinking and partying that you can do. Diner at Lleres (The Food is HORRIBLE in Colombia and really bad in Medellin, Going to clubs, bar hoping, The finca or little villages for a weekend, casino for small stakes, and going to the mall. That's it! Other than Chicas.[/QUOTE]I said this same thing in this thread at the end of October.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1210832]As far as people there having more sex, if this is true then it is probably because there isn't shit else to do but go to the mall. As many times as I have been to Colombia I am just realizing this. Before my trip I incessantly asked my girl what we were going to do. She would never answer. The first two days we went from mall to mall and for fucking what? Not a damn thing but to walk around in circles. I swear if I would have gone to another Unicentro, Cosmocentro, Astocentro, Megacentro or what the fuck ever other kind of -centro that I was going to hurt somebody. After all these years of going to Colombia I guess I was too busy running around chasing tail to realize there was nothing else to do but run around and chase tail. Being with only one person made me realize that.[/QUOTE]
That's where Bogota SHINES over the rest of the country. Plenty to do IF you can cut through the traffic to make it there :P
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1241306]I have been hitting up Medellin for about 3 (ish) years now and I agree. Medellin can be boring! I have a good buddy who lives down there and I can remember him saying ". Well if you're not fucking constantly there ain't shit to do!" hahahhaha!
There are just so many variations of going out drinking and partying that you can do. Diner at Lleres (The Food is HORRIBLE in Colombia and really bad in Medellin, Going to clubs, bar hoping, The finca or little villages for a weekend, casino for small stakes, and going to the mall. That's it! Other than Chicas.
I spend my time taking on line classes, helping out my novia run errands, work out a bit (Walking-Jog combo for a few miles every day or at least I try to) and casas.
Medellin is a boring city once you get over the "Newness" of it all.[/QUOTE]That's pretty much anywhere in the world. If you think about it, what really IS there really do in life but work, fuck, eat, shit and sleep? If you need a beach, go to the water park. Get an apartment with a heated pool. I haven't been to Medellin as much as some, but I plan to check out every bar, club and restaurant in Medellin. Mix in the occasional side trips to the outskirts of Medelln and I don't see how you can get bored.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1241472]That's pretty much anywhere in the world. If you think about it, what really IS there really do in life but work, fuck, eat, shit and sleep? If you need a beach, go to the water park. Get an apartment with a heated pool. I haven't been to Medellin as much as some, but I plan to check out every bar, club and restaurant in Medellin. Mix in the occasional side trips to the outskirts of Medelln and I don't see how you can get bored.[/QUOTE]I agree, most guys go to Medellin for the cheap casas and miss what is really about. I went to Mangos which has a country Western theme, and had a great time. From the midget to the big yellow chicken. I love to post up at Sandiego with a bottle of rum and watch the naked girls perform. I like La Mayorista and El Centro with its seedy side and occasional gem. I like the malls and the metro to people watch.
And I love that most mongerers don't appreciate Medellin. Most gringos don't like that the Colombians don't kiss their ass, Colombianas have their own agenda its not about tourists, its about tourists blending in. Most gringos want to walk around with a beatiful chick on their arm, but thats not the play here. Most guys don't know how to work Medellin and thats its beauty, only the humble survive.
[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1241779]I agree, most guys go to Medellin for the cheap casas and miss what is really about. I went to Mangos which has a country Western theme, and had a great time. From the midget to the big yellow chicken. I love to post up at Sandiego with a bottle of rum and watch the naked girls perform. I like La Mayorista and El Centro with its seedy side and occasional gem. I like the malls and the metro to people watch.
And I love that most mongerers don't appreciate Medellin. Most gringos don't like that the Colombians don't kiss their ass, Colombianas have their own agenda its not about tourists, its about tourists blending in. Most gringos want to walk around with a beatiful chick on their arm, but thats not the play here. Most guys don't know how to work Medellin and thats its beauty, only the humble survive.[/QUOTE]Mr Gogo,
How is Mangos. Is it possible to pull girls from there?
Jay
[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1242210]Mr Gogo,
How is Mangos. Is it possible to pull girls from there?
Jay[/QUOTE]Mangos is a legitimate griingo tourist trap nightclub with a lot of schtick acts. Hot women dancers everywhere but mostly couples and large groups which keep an eye and a tight grip on the ladies surrounding and sitting with them. There are no working girls there besides the ones that the gringo tourists bring in with them LOL. I've only heard of some urban legend that some of the dancers could be bought at a hefty price of $1000usd+ but like I said this is only urban legen and I cannot confirm or deny and then how would you even approach one of the girls and ask her that? You would have to find the top shelf pimp for that one.
Can you pick up "regular girls" from there? Well can you pick up regular girls in clubs in NYC and South Beach? then you might be able to do it in Mangos, but not without a firm NON SPANGLISH command of the language.
[QUOTE=Kute Guy; 1241094]Hi,
I have 2 months holiday and I want to spend it in on location if possible. I usually go to Pattaya as it has EVERYTHING. But latino women make my heart skip a beat. Is it possible in Cartegna to do the following:
* learn spanish and dancing for 2 months.
* do a bootcamp / get a personal trainer for 2 months to lose weight.
* hire an apartment that allows guests (and ideally asks for their I'd to be left behind while the guest is in the apartment)
* have ST and LT fun.
* good time to go in Jun-Aug.
What sort of costs will I be looking at?[/QUOTE]If you go to Medellin, PM me for an excellent spanish teacher.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1242225]Mangos is a legitimate griingo tourist trap nightclub with a lot of schtick acts.[/QUOTE]This is so true, but it can be fun. Here's an article about Mangos:
[url]http://medellinliving.com/mangos-disco/[/url]
[quote=jayhighfive; 1242210]mr gogo,
how is mangos. is it possible to pull girls from there?
jay[/quote]mhl is correct. it was a different kind of place, that was so weird that it was fun. girls dance in themed outfits, but i never tried any of them. most of the girls were in groups. they have horses mouths that you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] into. they have a midget and big yellow bird running around. the videos play car crashes, and speed videos. all the girls will let you take pictures of them in their outfits. i will try to find my old memory card with pics of all this.
overall it was a great time away from the regular pussy chase.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1242225]Mangos is a legitimate griingo tourist trap nightclub with a lot of schtick acts. Hot women dancers everywhere but mostly couples and large groups which keep an eye and a tight grip on the ladies surrounding and sitting with them. There are no working girls there besides the ones that the gringo tourists bring in with them LOL. I've only heard of some urban legend that some of the dancers could be bought at a hefty price of $1000usd+ but like I said this is only urban legen and I cannot confirm or deny and then how would you even approach one of the girls and ask her that? You would have to find the top shelf pimp for that one.
Can you pick up "regular girls" from there? Well can you pick up regular girls in clubs in NYC and South Beach? Then you might be able to do it in Mangos, but not without a firm NON SPANGLISH command of the language.[/QUOTE]It's not a tourist trap because there are not that many tourists in Medellin. It's more of a hangout for the rich, upperclass and mafioso locals. Since it's a nicer atmosphere, gringos like to go there too. There are working girls. Mafios bring them as do gringos. Not a good idea to poach them though. Asking for a fight, but you can try to discretely slip them your number. Working girls also LOVE to celebrate birthdays, and special occasions there. However it's hard to tell the difference because local packs of girls do the same. It's not a great place to pick up working girls, but these girls love to drink and which girl doesn't like free drinks? When you see a group of girls are almost done with there bottle, offer them drinks from your table. You'd be surprised with their reaction.
MHL, are you on drugs! Say it isn't so parcero.
MHL.
Mangos is a legitimate griingo tourist trap nightclub with a lot of schtick acts.
AG.
One of the largest clubs with the best entertainment in Medellin.
MHL.
Hot women dancers everywhere but mostly couples and large groups which keep an eye and a tight grip on the ladies surrounding and sitting with them.
AG.
Many groups of only girls go out and party and if you go about it the right way, ask then to dance.
MHL.
There are no working girls there besides the ones that the gringo tourists bring in with them LOL.
AG.
On most nights working girls there, but takes some understanding of the situation in Medellin.
MHL.
I've only heard of some urban legend that some of the dancers could be bought at a hefty price of $1000usd+ but like I said this is only urban legen and I cannot confirm or deny and then how would you even approach one of the girls and ask her that? You would have to find the top shelf pimp for that one.
AG.
I've been in Medellin 10 years now and dated one dancer for awhile and partied with them many, many times. Even I have never seen or heard a dancer being a Prepago and I'm not saying they arnt either.
Another dancer was calling me from hospital after her boyfriend put a bullet hole in boh her knees after she broke up with him, after her first call, I didnt answer her other calls !!!!
MHL.
Can you pick up "regular girls" from there? Well can you pick up regular girls in clubs in NYC and South Beach? Then you might be able to do it in Mangos, but not without a firm NON SPANGLISH command of the language.
AG.
I have seen it done many times, myself and other guys.
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1242520]It's not a tourist trap because there are not that many tourists in Medellin.[/QUOTE]
You're kidding me right?? Every single unknowing tourist in MDE will be in 2 places on Saturday night, In PL or in Mangos. Others who know the city well will venture out to other areas to avoid the riff raff.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1242520]When you see a group of girls are almost done with there bottle, offer them drinks from your table. You'd be surprised with their reaction.[/QUOTE]This is a good strategy but the girls who frequent Mangos have chocha de oro syndrome so get ready to work the game for a WHILE if you have the dedication and time.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1242520]There are working girls. Mafios bring them as do gringos. Not a good idea to poach them though. Asking for a fight, but you can try to discretely slip them your number.[/QUOTE]Yeah right, trying to slip a hot chica there you number while the sicario is not looking? Is not a smart idea, your asking for MORE than a fight and now he has you number. BIG LOL
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1242550]MHL, are you on drugs! Say it isn't so parcero.[/QUOTE]
AG you know you're a "special case" haha. In my opinion I would not call your particular circumstances typical, especially you going to Mangos for 8 or 9 years now where people know you there, what you do, the clientele you work with and bring in. I'm sure it was some kind of nostalgia for the people back then.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1242520]It's not a tourist trap because there are not that many tourists in Medellin. It's more of a hangout for the rich, upperclass and mafioso locals. Since it's a nicer atmosphere, gringos like to go there too. There are working girls. Mafios bring them as do gringos. Not a good idea to poach them though. Asking for a fight, but you can try to discretely slip them your number. Working girls also LOVE to celebrate birthdays, and special occasions there. However it's hard to tell the difference because local packs of girls do the same. It's not a great place to pick up working girls, but these girls love to drink and which girl doesn't like free drinks? When you see a group of girls are almost done with there bottle, offer them drinks from your table. You'd be surprised with their reaction.[/QUOTE]There are several opinions posted and all of them say something about mango's that I agree with but my personal opinion is more in line with HiOctane's. It is a fun place and I am a tourist and I did not find that a trap. I guess it depends on what one's definition of a trap is. I do recommend guys visit it at least once if you have time.
The last time I went, I went with a prepago and her sister. I had my chic for 3 hours and after 2 hours I was done hanging out in the room so I asked her if she wanted to go to Mangos. She was very excited and asked if she could call her sister (typical chic MO) and showed me her sister's picture on the phone. I thought my chic is hot but the sister was hotter. So we went there, got a lot of attention, danced for while, kept the drinks to one each and Nobody tried to hit on them while they were with me. I left to go to Fase II after 2 hours. The girls were still there having a good time and I am sure they found more generous companions and a much better dance partners.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1242551]You're kidding me right? Every single unknowing tourist in MDE will be in 2 places on Saturday night, In PL or in Mangos. Others who know the city well will venture out to other areas to avoid the riff raff.
This is a good strategy but the girls who frequent Mangos have chocha de oro syndrome so get ready to work the game for a WHILE if you have the dedication and time.
Yeah right, trying to slip a hot chica there you number while the sicario is not looking? Is not a smart idea, your asking for MORE than a fight and now he has you number. BIG LOL[/QUOTE]I guess it depends on your definition of "tourist trap." You are taking it to mean some place that is overpriced. Which it is. However, to me. Locals don't go to "tourist traps" because they know better. It is popular among locals making it not a "tourist trap."
Nobody said it was an optimal place for working girls but it's doable. Also, I wouldn't go after a colombian guy's girl, but you can bet 9 times out of 10. A girl with a gringo is a working girl.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1241272]Always a problem for me on the long trips I take is the boredom factor. After you see the sites in a location then you find yourself with too much time on your hands till you do your huntng. I'm 42 days in Colombia, and had to get out of MDE as I was bored. I'm in Santa Marta now as I love the beach. Problem is the water is very cold. Of the 6 days I have been here I have only been able to swim one day.
I think I will have to reconsider Lima again as I can bet American horse racing there. This kills the afternoon, and leaves me the night for the hunt. Also the DR has horse racing, I think, but I'm not sure. Anyone know of other areas where I could bet on USA races please PM me. I'm not interested in Purto Rico (sic) as it is too expensive there for me.[/QUOTE]Costa Rica is perfect place.
[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1242672]I guess it depends on your definition of "tourist trap." You are taking it to mean some place that is overpriced. Which it is. However, to me. Locals don't go to "tourist traps" because they know better. It is popular among locals making it not a "tourist trap."
Nobody said it was an optimal place for working girls but it's doable. Also, I wouldn't go after a colombian guy's girl, but you can bet 9 times out of 10. A girl with a gringo is a working girl.[/QUOTE]Do not try to get close to a Chica if she is with another hombre. This is even more important in the higher end places. You are risking far more than a good beating. The big boys here don't play games when it comes to their honor.
Can someone verify this?
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1243009]Can someone verify this?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Works for me?
[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1242975]I also have had many nurses, dentists, students and still have them and they would be really offended by your stupid gringo post. Yeah. If I'm a fat fuck and born before 1955 and my girl is smokin and I don't have much money. She might be a p4p. I also had to knock out a security guard at el estadio for trying to take my camara when he went through my stuff. He had a rifle, he got fired. These people are no tougher than anyone else in the world.
Stop generalizing and go back to mayorista and have a beer and bang the same p4p that truckers in Colombia bang. Bawawawawa."I have a great idea. Lets pay $2000+. Go to Colombia. And bang trucker babes"![/QUOTE]This post proves this guy has never been to Colombia, or he is just out of touch with reality. Colombians don't follow the " Criminal code", did anyone see Scarface? Remember Tony Montana didn't want to hit families. Italians, Russians, Blacks take their beefs to the individuals, Colombians hit you're family first. Let Runner up keep fucking up in Colombia, and when he is going to a different family members funeral every week, then he will understand.
[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1242975]I also have had many nurses, dentists, students and still have them and they would be really offended by your stupid gringo post. Yeah. If I'm a fat fuck and born before 1955 and my girl is smokin and I don't have much money. She might be a p4p. I also had to knock out a security guard at el estadio for trying to take my camara when he went through my stuff. He had a rifle, he got fired. These people are no tougher than anyone else in the world.
Stop generalizing and go back to mayorista and have a beer and bang the same p4p that truckers in Colombia bang. Bawawawawa."I have a great idea. Lets pay $2000+. Go to Colombia. And bang trucker babes"![/QUOTE]Of all the posts I have read, your post takes the cake as the most stupid on record.
You my fine feathered friend are a real piece of work.
[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1242975]I also have had many nurses, dentists, students and still have them and they would be really offended by your stupid gringo post. Yeah. If I'm a fat fuck and born before 1955 and my girl is smokin and I don't have much money. She might be a p4p. I also had to knock out a security guard at el estadio for trying to take my camara when he went through my stuff. He had a rifle, he got fired. These people are no tougher than anyone else in the world.
Stop generalizing and go back to mayorista and have a beer and bang the same p4p that truckers in Colombia bang. Bawawawawa."I have a great idea. Lets pay $2000+. Go to Colombia. And bang trucker babes"![/QUOTE]What a total goofball!
[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1243009]RL crash. Can someone verify this?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Works for me too.
[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1242975]I also have had many nurses, dentists, students and still have them and they would be really offended by your stupid gringo post. Yeah. If I'm a fat fuck and born before 1955 and my girl is smokin and I don't have much money. She might be a p4p. I also had to knock out a security guard at el estadio for trying to take my camara when he went through my stuff. He had a rifle, he got fired. These people are no tougher than anyone else in the world.
Stop generalizing and go back to mayorista and have a beer and bang the same p4p that truckers in Colombia bang. Bawawawawa."I have a great idea. Lets pay $2000+. Go to Colombia. And bang trucker babes"![/QUOTE]I remember when I knew jack about Colombia.
Beat up a security guard? Real men don't feel the need to impress a bunch of mongers with such an amazing and impressive story. Thanks for going off on a tangent and impressing me. Could you perhaps talk about the time you broke that kid's glasses in 2nd grade? That oughta be a hoot.
[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1242975]I also have had many nurses, dentists, students and still have them and they would be really offended by your stupid gringo post. Yeah. If I'm a fat fuck and born before 1955 and my girl is smokin and I don't have much money. She might be a p4p. I also had to knock out a security guard at el estadio for trying to take my camara when he went through my stuff. He had a rifle, he got fired. These people are no tougher than anyone else in the world.
Stop generalizing and go back to mayorista and have a beer and bang the same p4p that truckers in Colombia bang. Bawawawawa."I have a great idea. Lets pay $2000+. Go to Colombia. And bang trucker babes"![/QUOTE]This "statement" can be summed up in four letters, SPAM! MOD please delete it.
Macho Macho Man. I want to be a Macho Man. I wish I was that tough.
[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1242975]I also have had many nurses, dentists, students and still have them and they would be really offended by your stupid gringo post. Yeah. If I'm a fat fuck and born before 1955 and my girl is smokin and I don't have much money. She might be a p4p. I also had to knock out a security guard at el estadio for trying to take my camara when he went through my stuff. He had a rifle, he got fired. These people are no tougher than anyone else in the world.
Stop generalizing and go back to mayorista and have a beer and bang the same p4p that truckers in Colombia bang. Bawawawawa."I have a great idea. Lets pay $2000+. Go to Colombia. And bang trucker babes"![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1242550]MHL, are you on drugs! Say it isn't so parcero.
MHL.
Mangos is a legitimate griingo tourist trap nightclub with a lot of schtick acts.
AG.
One of the largest clubs with the best entertainment in Medellin.
MHL.
Hot women dancers everywhere but mostly couples and large groups which keep an eye and a tight grip on the ladies surrounding and sitting with them.
AG.
Many groups of only girls go out and party and if you go about it the right way, ask then to dance.
MHL.
There are no working girls there besides the ones that the gringo tourists bring in with them LOL.
AG.
On most nights working girls there, but takes some understanding of the situation in Medellin.
MHL.
I've only heard of some urban legend that some of the dancers could be bought at a hefty price of $1000usd+ but like I said this is only urban legen and I cannot confirm or deny and then how would you even approach one of the girls and ask her that? You would have to find the top shelf pimp for that one.
AG.
I've been in Medellin 10 years now and dated one dancer for awhile and partied with them many, many times. Even I have never seen or heard a dancer being a Prepago and I'm not saying they arnt either.
Another dancer was calling me from hospital after her boyfriend put a bullet hole in boh her knees after she broke up with him, after her first call, I didn't answer her other calls!
MHL.
Can you pick up "regular girls" from there? Well can you pick up regular girls in clubs in NYC and South Beach? Then you might be able to do it in Mangos, but not without a firm NON SPANGLISH command of the language.
AG.
I have seen it done many times, myself and other guys.
Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]The gringo ratio at Mangos is low. I have a cap from there and get many Colombians in NYC stop me. It is an upper class club in MDE. The cost in local terms is high. Ask a local shop girl to come out with you there and even Spanglish works.
Actually went there with MDE Bob while visiting the then Mansion when AG was out of the country. Had a blast. There was about 25 or more of us and some of the chicas with us knew others there and some of the dancers knew Bob. In the end there were a lot of people hanging with us.
We drank gallons. Bottles and bottles of the local rum with beers and every other kind of drink. When the bill came was just over a million pesos. About $500 US. Was sure it was going to be 3 or 4 thousand. Would have been 10 or 15 grand in any similar club in NY.
[QUOTE=Escort King;1243336]The gringo ratio at Mangos is low. I have a cap from there and get many Colombians in NYC stop me. It is an upper class club in MDE. The cost in local terms is high. Ask a local shop girl to come out with you there and even Spanglish works.[/QUOTE]Just thought of a new idea to pick up paisas in the US. LOL. I'll have to get a Mangos cap too.
[QUOTE=Runner Up; 1242975]I also have had many nurses, dentists, students and still have them and they would be really offended by your stupid gringo post. Yeah. If I'm a fat fuck and born before 1955 and my girl is smokin and I don't have much money. She might be a p4p. I also had to knock out a security guard at el estadio for trying to take my camara when he went through my stuff. He had a rifle, he got fired. These people are no tougher than anyone else in the world.
Stop generalizing and go back to mayorista and have a beer and bang the same p4p that truckers in Colombia bang. Bawawawawa."I have a great idea. Lets pay $2000+. Go to Colombia. And bang trucker babes"![/QUOTE]Whether you're posts on the forums are true or not. With an attitude like that, you're eventually going to run into the wrong colombian.
[QUOTE=John Gault;1242884]Do not try to get close to a Chica if she is with another hombre. This is even more important in the higher end places. You are risking far more than a good beating. The big boys here don't play games when it comes to their honor.[/QUOTE]This is true, and it is understable. Imagine that you are with an American girl at a club in NYC (or Houston, whatever) and a Chinese or Mexican tourist is hitting on your girl. It would be bizzare.
[QUOTE=Cherchezfemme;1242229]If you go to Medellin, PM me for an excellent spanish teacher.[/QUOTE]Chez,
I wouldn't mind taking you up on the offer to be introduced to the excellent Spanish teacher. Going to
Be in MDE from feb 24 onwards for a week.
Gentlemen,
Has anyone in the recent past stayed at the one bedroom studio apartments advertised on medellinrentalsonline. Com (run by Eric Jensen). Need opinions / recommendations for the same and would be obliged if some of the senior members opine. I am planning on my first visit to Medellin, hence the question.
Regards,
Sharq
[QUOTE=Sharq; 1243599]Chez,
I wouldn't mind taking you up on the offer to be introduced to the excellent Spanish teacher. Going to
Be in MDE from feb 24 onwards for a week.[/QUOTE]I have a great guy who can give you lesions as well (his profession) and best of all he can double as a "fun spot / casa" guide. Pm me if interested.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1243625]I have a great guy who can give you lesions as well (his profession) and best of all he can double as a "fun spot / casa" guide. Pm me if interested.[/QUOTE]MiamiHeatLuver. I know it was a typo, but I don't want to meet anyone who can give me [B]lesions[/B]!
Lessons, YES. Lesions, NO!
Seriously. Thanks for everyone who posts here. It has helped me a lot. Looking forward to my first trip to the Land of Eternal Spring (I hope I got that right) in a week (or so).
[QUOTE=ReadyFun2006; 1243673]MiamiHeatLuver. I know it was a typo, but I don't want to meet anyone who can give me [B]lesions[/B]!
Lessons, YES. Lesions, NO!
Seriously. Thanks for everyone who posts here. It has helped me a lot. Looking forward to my first trip to the Land of Eternal Spring (I hope I got that right) in a week (or so).[/QUOTE]You're right bad Ironic typo especially in the context of this type of forum. Hahaaaaa LOL
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1243677]You're right bad Ironic typo especially in the context of this type of forum. Hahaaaaa LOL[/QUOTE]At least this time, you didn't accuse me of editing your posts! LMFAO
I am thinking about taking a bus from Medellin to Monteria on my next trip. I'd appreciate any info, I. E. Bus fare, bus company, cost, the condition of the roads. Thank you very much.
Cheers.
Hello, Ezyngo. How you doing, hope all good.
From Medellin to Monteria, is about 9 hours, $80, 000. 00 cop.
You need to take the colectivo (Van) in terminal del norte, in the second floor to your right, you will find "TRANSPORTES LUZ" I think the last van will left Medellin at 2. 00 PM, but you can take the van at 5. 00 Am. TRANSPORTES LUZ S. C. A. Phone # (57-4) 2394553.
Other choice will be taking "EXPRESO BRASILIA" And ride all nite long.
[url]http://www.expresobrasilia.com[/url]
Nice PUSIE but to f hot, river cross the city, Rio Sinu it is.
Any other question, please PM me.
My TWO Cents.
Kukulkan.
[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1244382]I am thinking about taking a bus from Medellin to Monteria on my next trip. I'd appreciate any info, I. E. Bus fare, bus company, cost, the condition of the roads. Thank you very much.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Hola fellow mongers. This is my first post, but I am a long time reader who has decided to give back a little of what I have learned from this site. I have been to Peru, Sosua, Boca Chica, CTG, Cali, MDE, BAQ, Santa Marta, Nicaragua, Germany, and Las Vegas (before it became Disney Land.)
My Spanish is not good, but I get by quite well even in a new location. In my travels I have met good guys like Lucky Eddie, Collage Pusher, You Can, and the infamous Urban, and Vics Picks. All great guys, and I learned a lot from them.
Ok enough boring stuff. Now for a trip report as this is what should be the main focus on this board. I arrived in MDE, and took the bus to El Centro. Cost was 7K. I went to New Life, and was surprised at the nice selection of about 25 Chicas. I had read before that New Life was loaded with Gorditas, but this was not ther case for me. I took a Morena who had a great attitude. The first thing she did was to ask me if I like to go dancing. Of course I said yes, and got her phone number. For a BBBJ I had to give her 10K. It was good, but when it came time for sex I found to my dismay that her pussy was loose. I am average size so this was a turn off for me so after about 15 minutes of pounding the beaver I gave up with no milk given.
The next day I went to Andrea which in the front is a icecream store, but has a door to the Casa. 30K for 30 minutes. A small selection, but I took Jenny who was quite beautiful. I offered 10K for the BBBJ, but she wanted 20. Her face was so pretty that I had to go that extra mile, and pay the frieght. The next day or so I went to Lindas Chicas. It was in the daytime, and only two girls were on the job. Both very beautiful, but the guys I was with did not want to wait for the hyper madam to call more girls so we left, and went to two other Casas, but did not stay as they wanted a payment if we did not partake of any girls. I refuse to pay to view girls, and I hope other members will follow my lead on this matter. I went a few nights to Mayorista, and found many Gorditas there. It is hard to believe that some of these girls ever get any business. I did find a few decent looking girls, and I paid the 30K for decent service. It was 10K for the BBBJ.
What was of interest to me was the sales girls in the nice mall in Poblado. Two different hot women flirted with me, but true to my code I try to avoid Non Pros as in my experence it has cost me far more than a working girl ever would.
I heard a rumor that a Gringo was drugged, and robbed in a hotel in MDE. That would never happen to me as I don't drink with these girls. I have heard that they will put the drug on their nipples so I guess I'm not totaly safe in that regard.
The Metro price was 1800, and every thing else seemed more expensive than my last trip there. Add the under 1800 pesos per dollar, and that makes Colombia a place I will not visit again till I see 2000 pesos per dollar again
I found this online so I am going to paste a piece here:
"when I returned to the U S I was the only one on the plane they took aside and did a special customs search.
They went through every pocket my camera and looked at every photo. Which had a few of older ladies that I hooked up with. When they did not find anything after searching for over an hour they let me go.
Two weeks later two Homeland security agents showed up at my front door and said they wanted to check out my computer because when I went through customs they said it was reported that I had photos of ladies of questionable age on my camera. I told them no, The main reason I did not want them to look in my pc was I have a lot of business information on it which I felt was none of the governments business. They said if they had to come back with a warrant they would not be so nice.
I called a friend of mine while they were here for advice he told me to tell them no and go get a warrant and ask them if they had any more questions to go through him. They left and I have never heard from them again."
Any of this happened to any of you guys? How strong is the built in windows disk encryption program? Please provide any of your experiences. The last time I got off a plane the immigration official let on to the fact that I was on some kind of list. But he did not provide anymore details. As he was talking I took a quick glance down on his desk and sure enough there was some list and my name was on it. Fortunately I did not have a laptop on me at the time, but I usually always travel with one.
Great report. If you know the address, phone #, and the hours of operation of Andrea, please let me know. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Kelso1;1249013]Hola fellow mongers. This is my first post, but I am a long time reader who has decided to give back a little of what I have learned from this site. I have been to Peru, Sosua, Boca Chica, CTG, Cali, MDE, BAQ, Santa Marta, Nicaragua, Germany, and Las Vegas (before it became Disney Land.)[/QUOTE]
[quote=asianpussylover; 1249053]i found this online so i am going to paste a piece here:
"when i returned to the u s i was the only one on the plane they took aside and did a special customs search.
they went through every pocket my camera and looked at every photo. which had a few of older ladies that i hooked up with. when they did not find anything after searching for over an hour they let me go.
two weeks later two homeland security agents showed up at my front door and said they wanted to check out my computer because when i went through customs they said it was reported that i had photos of ladies of questionable age on my camera. i told them no, the main reason i did not want them to look in my pc was i have a lot of business information on it which i felt was none of the governments business. they said if they had to come back with a warrant they would not be so nice.
i called a friend of mine while they were here for advice he told me to tell them no and go get a warrant and ask them if they had any more questions to go through him. they left and i have never heard from them again."
any of this happened to any of you guys? how strong is the built in windows disk encryption program? please provide any of your experiences. the last time i got off a plane the immigration official let on to the fact that i was on some kind of list. but he did not provide anymore details. as he was talking i took a quick glance down on his desk and sure enough there was some list and my name was on it. fortunately i did not have a laptop on me at the time, but i usually always travel with one.[/quote]there are ways to get your name purged from the list. try to contact them directy and enquire how you can go about it or use a lawyer.
even if they remove your name from the list, they will still put a red flag and your baggage is likely to be searched. to be safe do not take any pictures of sex or naked. it is ok to have pictures of ladies you met.
travelling for sexual purposes is illegal according to usa laws.
never ever admit you paid for sex. just mention saying you met ladies and were friends with them during your travel. i doubt just by looking at the pictures they can prove girls are ****. it will be next to impossible.
for them to contact the girl and i do not think they will waste manpowers to trace.
problem with immigration is they not only blacklist you here, they also send your info to all countries friendly to us.
i was stopped one time at osaka airport. they did not tell me why. later the immigration guy told me i can go. when asked he was nice enough to tell me that one of the threads on the photo page was sticking out.
he called the us embassy and confirmed my identity. many a time if they stop you they never tell why.
[quote=sammon; 1249686]t.
never ever admit you paid for sex. just mention saying you met ladies and were friends with them during your travel. i doubt just by looking at the pictures they can prove girls are ****. it will be next to impossible.
for them to contact the girl and i do not think they will waste manpowers to trace.[/quote]great advice sammon for all to heed!
the tall man
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1249672]Great report. If you know the address, phone #, and the hours of operation of Andrea, please let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Cra. 45, No. 56-45 (Timbra)
Tel: 284-75-97 Cell 321-768-90-47.
10 AM to 7 PM Sunday 11AM to 5 PM
[QUOTE=Sammon;1249686]Travelling for sexual purposes is illegal according to USA laws.[/QUOTE]Since when? What law?
I've recently been checking out alot of webcam websites and I've noticed that if you go to the "latina" category almost all of them are Colombian. I found that to be peculiar. Why Colombia as compared to the rest of latin america? Almost none from Mexico, Argentina, Central America, Chile, Peru, etc. Are Colombianas just that much hotter than other latinas? Are they sluttier? Does Colombia have faster internet connections than the other latin countries?
Some of these webcam models are super hot. I often wonder if any of them would be willing to hook up in person, but I haven't tried to ask because I know the websites have rules against that type of thing. Have any of you guys been able to contact any of these girls directly and meet up in person? If so how did you go about it?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Jinxx;1250518]I've recently been checking out alot of webcam websites and I've noticed that if you go to the "latina" category almost all of them are Colombian. I found that to be peculiar. Why Colombia as compared to the rest of latin america? Almost none from Mexico, Argentina, Central America, Chile, Peru, etc. Are Colombianas just that much hotter than other latinas? .[/QUOTE]I think that's it. Colombian women, and especially the Paisas, are in a class of their own in South and Central America.
[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1250518]I've recently been checking out alot of webcam websites and I've noticed that if you go to the "latina" category almost all of them are Colombian. I found that to be peculiar. Why Colombia as compared to the rest of latin america? Almost none from Mexico, Argentina, Central America, Chile, Peru, etc. Are Colombianas just that much hotter than other latinas? Are they sluttier? Does Colombia have faster internet connections than the other latin countries?
Some of these webcam models are super hot. I often wonder if any of them would be willing to hook up in person, but I haven't tried to ask because I know the websites have rules against that type of thing. Have any of you guys been able to contact any of these girls directly and meet up in person? If so how did you go about it?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Generally it's not worth it. Some girls will, some won't, but the ones that will will charge several times market value for services.
Two of my best friends here and my ex wife all worked webcams at one time or another. Colombia is popular for that I think mainly because the girls are good looking. Peru or Mexico isn't going to have much export value :P
[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1250518]I've recently been checking out alot of webcam websites and I've noticed that if you go to the "latina" category almost all of them are Colombian. I found that to be peculiar. Why Colombia as compared to the rest of latin america? Almost none from Mexico, Argentina, Central America, Chile, Peru, etc. Are Colombianas just that much hotter than other latinas? Are they sluttier? Does Colombia have faster internet connections than the other latin countries?
Some of these webcam models are super hot. I often wonder if any of them would be willing to hook up in person, but I haven't tried to ask because I know the websites have rules against that type of thing. Have any of you guys been able to contact any of these girls directly and meet up in person? If so how did you go about it?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hell yeah! I banged 3 of them. And will be banging some more this weekend. Some will give you their details, some will not. Its a lot of hit or miss but that is all part of the fun. There is a cheaper way to find Colombian pros. PM me.
What are the best escort agencies in Medellin?
[QUOTE=Asianpussylover; 1249053]I found this online so I am going to paste a piece here:
"when I returned to the U S I was the only one on the plane they took aside and did a special customs search.
They went through every pocket my camera and looked at every photo. Which had a few of older ladies that I hooked up with. When they did not find anything after searching for over an hour they let me go.
Two weeks later two Homeland security agents showed up at my front door and said they wanted to check out my computer because when I went through customs they said it was reported that I had photos of ladies of questionable age on my camera. I told them no, The main reason I did not want them to look in my pc was I have a lot of business information on it which I felt was none of the governments business. They said if they had to come back with a warrant they would not be so nice.
I called a friend of mine while they were here for advice he told me to tell them no and go get a warrant and ask them if they had any more questions to go through him. They left and I have never heard from them again."[/QUOTE]Another bullshit story. How would this person know they were the only one on the plane to get searched? I've never heard of US Customs going to someone's house. The will send a letter about something but won't show up in person. If they did show up in person you would think they would have sense enough to bring a warrant! I'm going to put all this nonsense to rest one way or the other. I'm in the Dominican Republic today, but tomorrow I will return to the USA. And I will make it a priority to ask a Customs agent about all this picture and going through computers business.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1251204]Another bullshit story. How would this person know they were the only one on the plane to get searched? I've never heard of US Customs going to someone's house. The will send a letter about something but won't show up in person. If they did show up in person you would think they would have sense enough to bring a warrant! I'm going to put all this nonsense to rest one way or the other. I'm in the Dominican Republic today, but tomorrow I will return to the USA. And I will make it a priority to ask a Customs agent about all this picture and going through computers business.[/QUOTE]I got worked over like AsianPussyman one time. They put a red x with a circle around it on my Customs declaration card at Immagration. Made it to the customs counter they pulled me aside same shit but they ran into the wrong mother fucker I went Jerry Springer on their ass. I finally quit answering their questions and told them go fuck theirselves and their boss had to come out, I filed a complaint after getting home and I think I got them all fired, haven't seen them since.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1251204]Another bullshit story. How would this person know they were the only one on the plane to get searched? I've never heard of US Customs going to someone's house. The will send a letter about something but won't show up in person. If they did show up in person you would think they would have sense enough to bring a warrant! I'm going to put all this nonsense to rest one way or the other. I'm in the Dominican Republic today, but tomorrow I will return to the USA. And I will make it a priority to ask a Customs agent about all this picture and going through computers business.[/QUOTE] At [url]http://www.expat-chronicles.com/2011/01/sex-with-minors-in-medellin[/url]
I quoted from a reply to the story, posted by someone named "Bob" who was harrassed by customs when coming back to the US in August of 2011. If you are piqued by paisa culture you should read this! Enough said.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1251204]Another bullshit story. How would this person know they were the only one on the plane to get searched? I've never heard of US Customs going to someone's house. The will send a letter about something but won't show up in person. If they did show up in person you would think they would have sense enough to bring a warrant! I'm going to put all this nonsense to rest one way or the other. I'm in the Dominican Republic today, but tomorrow I will return to the USA. And I will make it a priority to ask a Customs agent about all this picture and going through computers business.[/QUOTE]I been reading about this topic online. This kind of search is also being done at airports in the UK, Australia and who knows how many other places.
A friend of mine in Bogota works cam as well while she is in school (don't know why she told me about it in the first place). She has voluntarily invited me to see her cam at the beginning of her sessions sometimes when she has on the lingerie and the dildo in her hand but when it is time for her to take her clothes off she always cancels it. I have tried everything in the book to hook up with this girl but she "doesn't believe in men." She always says that I/men just want to fuck her, so she won't let me anywhere near it. She did hook me up with one of her good friends in Barranquilla. She wouldn't fuck me either but let me jack off on her stomach. Then she went back and told her friend everything about how I was trying hard to fuck her on the first day, etc. My luck with Colombianas hit a brick wall with those two.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1250945]Generally it's not worth it. Some girls will, some won't, but the ones that will will charge several times market value for services.
Two of my best friends here and my ex wife all worked webcams at one time or another. Colombia is popular for that I think mainly because the girls are good looking. Peru or Mexico isn't going to have much export value :P[/QUOTE]
Only custom harassment I hear from my friend is they ask a lot of stupid questions and they looked at his pictures on his camera. I never had that happen to me, guess I been lucky to not run into one of those customs agent.
[QUOTE=Asianpussylover; 1251218]At.
[url]http://www.expat-chronicles.com/2011/01/sex-with-minors-in-medellin[/url]
I quoted from a reply to the story, posted by someone named "Bob" who was harrassed by customs when coming back to the US in August of 2011. If you are piqued by paisa culture you should read this! Enough said.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amb832;1251446]Only custom harassment I hear from my friend is they ask a lot of stupid questions and they looked at his pictures on his camera. I never had that happen to me, guess I been lucky to not run into one of those customs agent.[/QUOTE]If you fly straight and have clean hands you never have to wash them. Good rule of thumb to live and travel by.
[quote=asianpussylover; 1249053]i found this online so i am going to paste a piece here:
"when i returned to the u s i was the only one on the plane they took aside and did a special customs search.
they went through every pocket my camera and looked at every photo. which had a few of older ladies that i hooked up with. when they did not find anything after searching for over an hour they let me go.
two weeks later two homeland security agents showed up at my front door and said they wanted to check out my computer because when i went through customs they said it was reported that i had photos of ladies of questionable age on my camera. i told them no, the main reason i did not want them to look in my pc was i have a lot of business information on it which i felt was none of the governments business. they said if they had to come back with a warrant they would not be so nice.
i called a friend of mine while they were here for advice he told me to tell them no and go get a warrant and ask them if they had any more questions to go through him. they left and i have never heard from them again."
any of this happened to any of you guys? how strong is the built in windows disk encryption program? please provide any of your experiences. the last time i got off a plane the immigration official let on to the fact that i was on some kind of list. but he did not provide anymore details. as he was talking i took a quick glance down on his desk and sure enough there was some list and my name was on it. fortunately i did not have a laptop on me at the time, but i usually always travel with one.[/quote][quote=mr enternational;1251204]another bullshit story. how would this person know they were the only one on the plane to get searched? i've never heard of us customs going to someone's house. the will send a letter about something but won't show up in person. if they did show up in person you would think they would have sense enough to bring a warrant! i'm going to put all this nonsense to rest one way or the other. i'm in the dominican republic today, but tomorrow i will return to the usa. and i will make it a priority to ask a customs agent about all this picture and going through computers business.[/quote]well i asked just like i said i would. i laid out the story to him just as i have read it on the board so many times. he said that of course everything is subject to search, but for them to go through someone's computer or camera there would have already had to be a predetermined reason like somebody ratted them out as a **** from the other end (that is how they catch most drug mules by the way). he said it would be really rare and he has never seen it done. i told him the part about the agents going to the guys house. he said they didn't go to people's houses. that would have been the fbi if it were true. i also asked him about anybody being on a list where they are always searched. he said it did not exist. he laughed and asked where i got all the crazy ideas from. i told him from reading the internet. he told me that i needed to stop blogging so much. i told him that after passing through immigration and customs hundreds of times my bag has been searched for drugs once and i have been directed to agriculture twice, but never any of the off the wall stuff that i read on this board.
[quote=mr enternational; 1251581]well i asked just like i said i would. i laid out the story to him just as i have read it on the board so many times. he said that of course everything is subject to search, but for them to go through someone's computer or camera there would have already had to be a predetermined reason like somebody ratted them out as a **** from the other end (that is how they catch most drug mules by the way). he said it would be really rare and he has never seen it done. i told him the part about the agents going to the guys house. he said they didn't go to people's houses. that would have been the fbi if it were true. i also asked him about anybody being on a list where they are always searched. he said it did not exist. he laughed and asked where i got all the crazy ideas from. i told him from reading the internet. he told me that i needed to stop blogging so much. i told him that after passing through immigration and customs hundreds of times my bag has been searched for drugs once and i have been directed to agriculture twice, but never any of the off the wall stuff that i read on this board. [/quote.
thanks for keeping your promise. anyone can do a google search and learn that customs can search your laptops and digital cameras for no reason at all. you don't have top be a perv or bbe ratted on. maybe they just do random checks. anyways, just to be on the safe side keep your private stuff private. encrypt and have a hidden partition if necessary.
[url]http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9892897-38.html[/url]
you know there are lists, the famous being the no fly. but there are others. get into an argument with a gate agent and see where you will end up.
Greetings,
I fell in love a few months back. I have no idea if it's real or I'm setting myself up to get hurt big time. For those of you who have been in this game a long time have you ever made this mistake?
Once one of these girls starts working is it even possible for her to go back to a "normal" relationship? What signs would you look for to help validate that the relationship is real? What would you look for to know it's a hose job? If it turns out to be real any advice on how to get her to the United States on k1 visa?
About her.
She is Colombian. She has been in this game a long time. She has been married before. She has children. She took English classes. (Is that a good thing or bad thing?)
We met 1st time on a Island. I've been to Bogota to see her once.
About me.
I'm American. I'm single. This isn't my 1st trip to courtesan.
My heart tells me it's real but from reading everything on this website over and over. My mind is telling me it was a scam from early on. The truth is it's killing me not knowing if it's real or not.
[QUOTE=Mr Sxm; 1254074]Greetings,
I fell in love a few months back. I have no idea if it's real or I'm setting myself up to get hurt big time. For those of you who have been in this game a long time have you ever made this mistake?
Once one of these girls starts working is it even possible for her to go back to a "normal" relationship? What signs would you look for to help validate that the relationship is real? What would you look for to know it's a hose job? If it turns out to be real any advice on how to get her to the United States on k1 visa?
About her.
She is Colombian. She has been in this game a long time. She has been married before. She has children. She took English classes. (Is that a good thing or bad thing?)
We met 1st time on a Island. I've been to Bogota to see her once.
About me.
I'm American. I'm single. This isn't my 1st trip to courtesan.
My heart tells me it's real but from reading everything on this website over and over. My mind is telling me it was a scam from early on. The truth is it's killing me not knowing if it's real or not.[/QUOTE]Run, run far, and run fast. She's playing you dude, make book on it. These girls are not just pros at sex, they are pros at scamming guys like you. And to be fair, on my first trip to Colombia I too had a Colombiana steal my heart and I did the whole WU thing met the family etc. Then she stomped on my heart, chewed it up and spit it out. I don't mean to rain on your parade but I am trying to save you from certain misery, been there done that. For every "success" story the countryside is littered with captain save a hoes who spent a ton of cash and time only to eventually get a nasty taste of reality. It sucks dude I know but as a fellow monger who walked in your shoes I am telling you again to run, run far far away or pay the consequences. Pm me if you want the blow by blow details of what I went through.
[QUOTE=Mr Sxm; 1254074]Greetings,
I fell in love a few months back. I have no idea if it's real or I'm setting myself up to get hurt big time. For those of you who have been in this game a long time have you ever made this mistake?
Once one of these girls starts working is it even possible for her to go back to a "normal" relationship? What signs would you look for to help validate that the relationship is real? What would you look for to know it's a hose job? If it turns out to be real any advice on how to get her to the United States on k1 visa?
About her.
She is Colombian. She has been in this game a long time. She has been married before. She has children. She took English classes. (Is that a good thing or bad thing?)
We met 1st time on a Island. I've been to Bogota to see her once.
About me.
I'm American. I'm single. This isn't my 1st trip to courtesan.
My heart tells me it's real but from reading everything on this website over and over. My mind is telling me it was a scam from early on. The truth is it's killing me not knowing if it's real or not.[/QUOTE]Usually when I read these types of stories I catch a big "red flag" here and there but this whole comment assuming most likely you're not a troll is one big "red flag" #1 Rule for any monger besides the ole "Don't be a western union novio" is #2 "you can take the hoe out of at game but you can't take the game out of the hoe"
[QUOTE=Mr Sxm; 1254074]Greetings,
I fell in love a few months back. I have no idea if it's real or I'm setting myself up to get hurt big time. For those of you who have been in this game a long time have you ever made this mistake?
Once one of these girls starts working is it even possible for her to go back to a "normal" relationship? What signs would you look for to help validate that the relationship is real? What would you look for to know it's a hose job? If it turns out to be real any advice on how to get her to the United States on k1 visa?
About her.
She is Colombian. She has been in this game a long time. She has been married before. She has children. She took English classes. (Is that a good thing or bad thing?)
We met 1st time on a Island. I've been to Bogota to see her once.
About me.
I'm American. I'm single. This isn't my 1st trip to courtesan.
My heart tells me it's real but from reading everything on this website over and over. My mind is telling me it was a scam from early on. The truth is it's killing me not knowing if it's real or not.[/QUOTE]Amigo, no reason to fall in love so fast.
Just relax. If you like her, help her out if you wish.
Enjoy her company, and her "love" in the cama (bed).
See other girls too.
Take your time, no rush for anything.
Helping a girl out because you want to is one thing, but if she's asking you for money, well that's another.
She may like you, but be careful taking a girl to the US, may just turn into a nightmare for you.
[QUOTE=Mr Sxm; 1254074]Greetings,
I fell in love a few months back. I have no idea if it's real or I'm setting myself up to get hurt big time. For those of you who have been in this game a long time have you ever made this mistake?
Once one of these girls starts working is it even possible for her to go back to a "normal" relationship? What signs would you look for to help validate that the relationship is real? What would you look for to know it's a hose job? If it turns out to be real any advice on how to get her to the United States on k1 visa?
About her.
She is Colombian. She has been in this game a long time. She has been married before. She has children. She took English classes. (Is that a good thing or bad thing?)
We met 1st time on a Island. I've been to Bogota to see her once.
About me.
I'm American. I'm single. This isn't my 1st trip to courtesan.
My heart tells me it's real but from reading everything on this website over and over. My mind is telling me it was a scam from early on. The truth is it's killing me not knowing if it's real or not.[/QUOTE]Bro. Take a hard look at yourself in the mirror. You asking this question to a board full of working girl-mongers? You that unsure where you at with this girl that you have to ask us? That tells you everything you need to know IMO.
Let me guess.
HER: 5"5', tan skin. 20-28, tight body, round butt, nice boobs, young wet pussy, sexy accent when she speaks English.
YOU: 40-65 (older?) , American, some what well off money wise or VERY well off by American Standards, kind of lonely, Never NEVER EVER hooked up with a girl of any Ethnic flavor like this little Colombian Dream. Am I close? How Close?
Bro. You're in lust, not love.
HOW GOOD IS YOUR SPANISH? HOW GOOD IS HER ENGLISH?
How well do you guys communicate? How much time have you spent together in total? I mean face to face hanging out. Fucking does not count. Add up the total time. Are you over 40 hours yet? Have you spent a night in with her? I don't mean a night in of Hot Hot Sex but a normal boring nigh, diner, TV, chat, bed.
Food shopping? Family party? Pizza and a movie?
You know what I mean? How well do you know this girl?
Normal Girlfriend stuff = Good Signs!
Stupid working girl behavior= Bad Signs!
Is she a working girl? Does she want to get out? Does she want to get saved? Does she want to get saved by you?
The Game is the same with a bit difference because of the culture thing and the Working girl thing. Not all working girls are bitches just because they're working girls; they're just put into a hard spot due to lack of opportunity, family, life happens. I have friends who have saved a Ho. Mostly in Asia. It can happen but be mindful of what is going on around you.
Good Luck
[QUOTE=Mr Sxm; 1254074]Greetings,
I fell in love a few months back. I have no idea if it's real or I'm setting myself up to get hurt big time. For those of you who have been in this game a long time have you ever made this mistake? But from reading everything on this website over and over.
My mind is telling me it was a scam from early on. The truth is it's killing me not knowing if it's real or not.[/QUOTE]Mr. Sxm,
First of all, just seeing your handle I have to ask: did you meet the girl in SXM or in Colombia? If it was only in SXM, have you visited her in Colombia? Unless and until you do, IMHO, you know nothing about her.
In general, I've seen anything short of outright fairy-tale in the gringo / foreign bride combinations. If the "relationship" doesn't cost you a lot of western union $$$, why not take things slow? ($$ in exchange for sex doesn't count, birthday and "dia de amor & amistad" gifts don't count either.) If she does ask for $$$, especially if she asks repeatedly. Remember that you're not her fiance and not even her novio. My advice: do not pay unless you can be there, you can see how money is actually spent, and you get total "satisfaction" every day and night you're there.
Guys thanks so much. I read the "Dating a Colombian guide and 99% of those suggestions all rang true.
I'm done but thanks for the support. It helped make a hard choice much easier. In real life there is no such thing is a fairy tale.
[QUOTE=Mr Sxm; 1254074]Greetings,
I fell in love a few months back. I have no idea if it's real or I'm setting myself up to get hurt big time. For those of you who have been in this game a long time have you ever made this mistake?
Once one of these girls starts working is it even possible for her to go back to a "normal" relationship? What signs would you look for to help validate that the relationship is real? What would you look for to know it's a hose job? If it turns out to be real any advice on how to get her to the United States on k1 visa?
About her.
She is Colombian. She has been in this game a long time. She has been married before. She has children. She took English classes. (Is that a good thing or bad thing?)
We met 1st time on a Island. I've been to Bogota to see her once.
About me.
I'm American. I'm single. This isn't my 1st trip to courtesan.
My heart tells me it's real but from reading everything on this website over and over. My mind is telling me it was a scam from early on. The truth is it's killing me not knowing if it's real or not.[/QUOTE]
Preach on brothers. The guy has seen the girl twice and he is already asking how to bring her on his home turf. I'm going to dissent on this one though. You have seen the rules as MHL has laid out. But I am going to say that if this girl has never asked you for anything AND you have been to where she lives then you are in safe water as far as a relationship. I have been acquainted with many Colombianas. I can count the ones who have asked me for something on one hand and they were out the door from that point. Now if you have been knowing her a long time and she loses a job or something like that. Well that has happened to several of my chicas and they still didn't ask for anything.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1254673]Preach on brothers. The guy has seen the girl twice and he is already asking how to bring her on his home turf. I'm going to dissent on this one though. You have seen the rules as MHL has laid out. But I am going to say that if this girl has never asked you for anything AND you have been to where she lives then you are in safe water as far as a relationship. I have been acquainted with many Colombianas. I can count the ones who have asked me for something on one hand and they were out the door from that point. Now if you have been knowing her a long time and she loses a job or something like that. Well that has happened to several of my chicas and they still didn't ask for anything.[/QUOTE]ANYBODY who expects a Colombian girl under 30 years of age and good looking to not cheat on you is fooling himself. Plain and simple. Enjoy her but don't expect monogamy.
And the rule should be quid pro quo. If you give money you should be getting something back besides a little stroke of your ego!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1254673]Preach on brothers. The guy has seen the girl twice and he is already asking how to bring her on his home turf. I'm going to dissent on this one though. You have seen the rules as MHL has laid out. But I am going to say that if this girl has never asked you for anything AND you have been to where she lives then you are in safe water as far as a relationship. I have been acquainted with many Colombianas. I can count the ones who have asked me for something on one hand and they were out the door from that point. Now if you have been knowing her a long time and she loses a job or something like that. Well that has happened to several of my chicas and they still didn't ask for anything.[/QUOTE]I agree, and follow a similar guideline.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1254767]ANYBODY who expects a Colombian girl under 30 years of age and good looking to not cheat on you is fooling himself. Plain and simple. Enjoy her but don't expect monogamy.
And the rule should be quid pro quo. If you give money you should be getting something back besides a little stroke of your ego![/QUOTE]I hate to sound so cynical but I agree for the most part. ESPECIALLY if you don't live there and are having a long distance relationship. Some of these Colombianas are so deviant that they can get their mothers, brothers, sisters to lie for them quite easily to corroborate their outlandish stories. Mom speaking: "no she's sleeping and I can't wake her up" "She went to visit her grandma in a town with very little cell service" ha haaaaa lol
ALSO cheating can be defined in many ways where it becomes semantics.
There is the cyber cheater, the one who calls all of her facebook novios "amor" p. S. The guy who your girl is usually having the most correspondence on her wall is probably the guy she's fucking when you're not around."Oh he's just my amigo from the U" Then there are just the straight up PERRAS who do it behind your back period.
A Colombiana is a very SEE and WANT creature. She she's what she wants and will do anything she has to get it. If you can't get her the latest blackberry she will find someone who will. ALSO they are very party "Rumba" oriented and will do whatever they need to to go out and party and rub on some dick dancing while singing to the latest reggaeton. NOTHING stands between a Colombiana the weekends and when its time to rumba, don't kid yourself.
As usual (Your Mileage May Vary)
[QUOTE=Mr Sxm;1254074]We met 1st time on a Island. I've been to Bogota to see her once.[/QUOTE]Lots of guys who meet working girls in St Maarten, Curacao and Aruba have fantasies about them. But the girls have fantasies too. The idea of a nice gringo boyfriend is very attractive to them. Having spent LOTS of time with the girls in the islands and later in Colombia as well, including 5 months with one girl, I can tell you that the islands are a vacation fantasy environment. You don't learn much about her and she doesn't learn much about you either. Everything is too easy and exciting. Reality is living together in Colombia with all her problems right next door or on the the cellphone constantly. I would like to have a girlfriend in Colombia for personal reasons, but I am spending more than a year getting to know one before making a commitment; and I picked one who never asked me for anything and actually gave me things in return for the gifts that I gave her.
The first few years that I played with working girls, I thought the sex would be better if I focused on one girl and had a "relationship". But when I followed one home to Colombia (she wasn't the first, more like the 8th) I discovered that I didn't really know her at all. Why? Because the islands are vacation fantasies. When I went back to the islands, I stopped having fake girlfriends there. I treated all the girls like amigas but not novias. And guess what? The sex was just as good with 5 or 10 regulars as it was with 1 regular girl.
-zing
p.s. of the many girls that I have been involved with in Colombia, only one actually scammed me. most of the others eventually asked me for help with various items, but they weren't tricking me. I don't pay any attention to what they say, only what they DO.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1254767]ANYBODY who expects a Colombian girl under 30 years of age and good looking to not cheat on you is fooling himself. Plain and simple. Enjoy her but don't expect monogamy.[/QUOTE]I've never been one to expect monogamy from any woman. What type of pot would I be to be calling a kettle black?
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1254778]A Colombiana is a very SEE and WANT creature. She she's what she wants and will do anything she has to get it. If you can't get her the latest blackberry she will find someone who will. ALSO they are very party "Rumba" oriented and will do whatever they need to to go out and party and rub on some dick dancing while singing to the latest reggaeton. NOTHING stands between a Colombiana the weekends and when its time to rumba, don't kid yourself.[/QUOTE]Where are you finding chicks like this? I must be naive like you said because I don't know any Colombianas who fit this profile. I don't even know a Colombiana who has a BlackBerry. All the ones I know have the little cheap simple starter phone and they are far from party animals. Or is it because I have never been to Medellin?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1254911]Where are you finding chicks like this? I must be naive like you said because I don't know any Colombianas who fit this profile. I don't even know a Colombiana who has a BlackBerry. All the ones I know have the little cheap simple starter phone and they are far from party animals. Or is it because I have never been to Medellin?[/QUOTE]Are you sure you've been to Colombia? LOL.
Those chicas are all over the country.
Or maybe you're just smart enough to avoid that kind, Like me LOL
[QUOTE=Ricker;1255083]Are you sure you've been to Colombia? LOL. Those chicas are all over the country. Or maybe you're just smart enough to avoid that kind, Like me LOL[/QUOTE]Well maybe my smartness is running out. A buddy of mine who lives in DR was telling me that the chicas are always asking for money. I said that is funny because I have never been hit up for money. Now all of a sudden during and after my trip 2 weeks ago chicas ARE asking for money and gifts. I just received this message from one 20 minutes ago.
S says: mandame 50 dolares tengo una sola hoya.
And I just replied with:
mrenternational x_x_x says: parece que solo quieres dinero y regalos
S says: si te lo pedi, es porque no tengo ni un peso para el pasaje de irme a mi casa. pero gracias que te aproveche tu dinero
I haven't been to Colombia since October so maybe when I get back there my streak will be ended as well.
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1255083]Are you sure you've been to Colombia? LOL.
Those chicas are all over the country.
Or maybe you're just smart enough to avoid that kind, Like me LOL[/QUOTE]That was a funny one by Mr E. The best one was "I don't even know a Colombiana with a blackberry" jejejejejeejejee ufffff LOL. These girls fall asleep by counting bb's jumping over fences!
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1255127]That was a funny one by Mr E. The best one was "I don't even know a Colombiana with a blackberry" jejejejejeejejee ufffff LOL. These girls fall asleep by counting bb's jumping over fences![/QUOTE]I feel so stupid at this point. Glad it didn't go to far.
[QUOTE=Mr Sxm;1255166]I feel so stupid at this point. Glad it didn't go to far.[/QUOTE]Don't be too hard on yourself, just learn from your mistake and move on. This has happened to most guys on here to some degree when they were new to the game but won't admit it and boast that they are some kind of super monger or some shit like that, don't believe it for a second. It's like the kid in school that bragged he was getting laid all the time but in reality he was getting nothing, the quiet kid was getting all the ass.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1255190]Don't be too hard on yourself, just learn from your mistake and move on. This has happened to most guys on here to some degree when they were new to the game but won't admit it and boast that they are some kind of super monger or some shit like that, don't believe it for a second. It's like the kid in school that bragged he was getting laid all the time but in reality he was getting nothing, the quiet kid was getting all the ass.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for this. The sad thing is I still don't know for 100% sure if it's real or not. She started asking for large sums of money. So it's time to walk.
Hi guys,
I have a rather basic question here. When I take a DOMESTIC flight at JMC airport, usually I try to arrive at the airport 1-1:30 hr before the departure time (for an INTERNATIONAL flight. 2hr before the flight). So usually I leave a hotel in Medellin 2hrs before the departure time for a domestic flight. Am I doing right? Should I leave earlier? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1255261]Hi guys,
I have a rather basic question here. When I take a DOMESTIC flight at JMC airport, usually I try to arrive at the airport 1-1:30 hr before the departure time (for an INTERNATIONAL flight. 2hr before the flight). So usually I leave a hotel in Medellin 2hrs before the departure time for a domestic flight. Am I doing right? Should I leave earlier? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Rionegro is 30-40 min away so I leave 2. 5ish hours depending on the time of day. Traffic in Bogota and Medellin can be brutal! I thought you have been to Medellin a bunch of times.
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1255261]Hi guys,
I have a rather basic question here. When I take a DOMESTIC flight at JMC airport, usually I try to arrive at the airport 1-1:30 hr before the departure time (for an INTERNATIONAL flight. 2hr before the flight). So usually I leave a hotel in Medellin 2hrs before the departure time for a domestic flight. Am I doing right? Should I leave earlier? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Avianca, in some periods of the year, suffer significant and extensive delays on all flights, in particular on MDE-BOG due to traffic congestion at Puente Aereo. Leaving the city 2hrs before by taxi should be enough, but if you take MDE-BOG as first leg of a longer trip, you might check on avianca. Com since the early morning the situation of flight delays (real time departure times) and the decide, if it's a day affected by high delays, to anticipate your arrival to the airport to ask at the checkin desk to be put on a flight scheduled earlier.
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1255261]Hi guys,
I have a rather basic question here. When I take a DOMESTIC flight at JMC airport, usually I try to arrive at the airport 1-1:30 hr before the departure time (for an INTERNATIONAL flight. 2hr before the flight). So usually I leave a hotel in Medellin 2hrs before the departure time for a domestic flight. Am I doing right? Should I leave earlier? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'd leave a half hour earlier for the domestic flight that you're taking. Might be traffic.
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche; 1255261]Hi guys,
I have a rather basic question here. When I take a DOMESTIC flight at JMC airport, usually I try to arrive at the airport 1-1:30 hr before the departure time (for an INTERNATIONAL flight. 2hr before the flight). So usually I leave a hotel in Medellin 2hrs before the departure time for a domestic flight. Am I doing right? Should I leave earlier? Thanks.[/QUOTE]2 hours leaving Medellin before your flight is perfect for domestic and is what I practice. Haven't run into any heavy traffic and If I do most taxi's will communicate with each other and go one of the 3 ways to the airport, yes there are "3" ways to the airport. I get there check in, check bags, NO PASSPORT STAMPS, go through screening, and then while in the lounge area? I usually am just waiting 10-15 minutes before boarding.
[QUOTE=Zing23; 1254898]Lots of guys who meet working girls in St Maarten, Curacao and Aruba have fantasies about them. But the girls have fantasies too. The idea of a nice gringo boyfriend is very attractive to them. Having spent LOTS of time with the girls in the islands and later in Colombia as well, including 5 months with one girl, I can tell you that the islands are a vacation fantasy environment. You don't learn much about her and she doesn't learn much about you either. Everything is too easy and exciting. Reality is living together in Colombia with all her problems right next door or on the the cellphone constantly. I would like to have a girlfriend in Colombia for personal reasons, but I am spending more than a year getting to know one before making a commitment; and I picked one who never asked me for anything and actually gave me things in return for the gifts that I gave her.
The first few years that I played with working girls, I thought the sex would be better if I focused on one girl and had a "relationship". But when I followed one home to Colombia (she wasn't the first, more like the 8th) I discovered that I didn't really know her at all. Why? Because the islands are vacation fantasies. When I went back to the islands, I stopped having fake girlfriends there. I treated all the girls like amigas but not novias. And guess what? The sex was just as good with 5 or 10 regulars as it was with 1 regular girl.
-zing.
P. S. Of the many girls that I have been involved with in Colombia, only one actually scammed me. Most of the others eventually asked me for help with various items, but they weren't tricking me. I don't pay any attention to what they say, only what they DO.[/QUOTE]One of these days I may tell you my story but I can't here, to protect the innocent and not so innocent. It would make you drop your jaw to the floor though. I've learned a lot more about human nature in my 3. 5 years here in Colombia than in ALL time previously.
SXM if she's asking for the big money, it's not a real relationship. Run, don't walk is my advice!
In May Spirit is adding Denver, and Minneapolis to it's destinations. As it stands now every flight I have taken to Latin America in the last year or so was full. So unless they add more daily flights to places like Colombia then all Spirit customers who fly out of FLL are going to be looking at higher prices, and less availabe seats. Now if I lived in one of the new citys then it would be good news, but when they start charging more for the flights, and even think up new ways to add to the price of travel then even those people will not be that happy.
As it is now Spirit is doing the best they can to rip you off.
I just tried to use my miles, and instead of the 7, 500 miles for the date I wanted to travel one way they wanted 37, 500 miles. This was on a off peak period. At first I thought it was a good deal to get 2 miles for every dollar I spent on my Spirit credit card, but now I think it is time to use other cards for their bonus programs. The Spirit card has a annual fee, and you also need to pay a fee for their (so called) $ 9 fare club.
In the past I have made at least one trip to Latin America in the summer, but this year after looking ahead at the prices till after Labor day it looks like I will suffer with no pussy this year at those peak travel times. Maybe I could get with Jon Gault and eat watermelon this summer instead.
[QUOTE=Kelso1; 1256466]In May Spirit is adding Denver, and Minneapolis to it's destinations. As it stands now every flight I have taken to Latin America in the last year or so was full. So unless they add more daily flights to places like Colombia then all Spirit customers who fly out of FLL are going to be looking at higher prices, and less availabe seats. Now if I lived in one of the new citys then it would be good news, but when they start charging more for the flights, and even think up new ways to add to the price of travel then even those people will not be that happy.
As it is now Spirit is doing the best they can to rip you off.
I just tried to use my miles, and instead of the 7, 500 miles for the date I wanted to travel one way they wanted 37, 500 miles. This was on a off peak period. At first I thought it was a good deal to get 2 miles for every dollar I spent on my Spirit credit card, but now I think it is time to use other cards for their bonus programs. The Spirit card has a annual fee, and you also need to pay a fee for their (so called) $ 9 fare club.
In the past I have made at least one trip to Latin America in the summer, but this year after looking ahead at the prices till after Labor day it looks like I will suffer with no pussy this year at those peak travel times. Maybe I could get with Jon Gault and eat watermelon this summer instead.[/QUOTE]So now John Gault is Kelso1, why the new handle?
My brother in law is a pilot for Spririt And they are NOT happy with things. So passenegers are not the only ones complaining. Having worked in the industry I can say that Spirit would need indications of interest that would cause it to add more flights to Colombia from FLL. So if the plane to MDE is always full and with their current schedule they are getting interest at approx 120% they up thier prices instead of adding another plane for only 20% on the overflow. Makes sense? They just don't have the volume to warrant upping thier number of flights per week. Better to have 100% occupancy on every flight.
Did John Gault get deleted? You have been complaining about Spirit (as John Gault) for over a year.
[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1256755]So now John Gault is Kelso1, why the new handle?
My brother in law is a pilot for Spririt And they are NOT happy with things. So passenegers are not the only ones complaining. Having worked in the industry I can say that Spirit would need indications of interest that would cause it to add more flights to Colombia from FLL. So if the plane to MDE is always full and with their current schedule they are getting interest at approx 120% they up thier prices instead of adding another plane for only 20% on the overflow. Makes sense? They just don't have the volume to warrant upping thier number of flights per week. Better to have 100% occupancy on every flight.
Did John Gault get deleted? You have been complaining about Spirit (as John Gault) for over a year.[/QUOTE]I bought the big front seat going down so I wouldn't get stuck in the long immagration line in MDE I didn't notice till after I got through TSA in Detroit that my seats were at the back of the plan WTF? I went to 3 counters talked to the 800 number 4 times this all with my paid receipt for my seats in my hand, wasn't a happy camper. It was entertaining to the other passengers watching me swear at the Spirit reps on the phone desks at the desks. I am supposed to get a refund. but I am not holding my breath, I bought the seats 3 months ago.
Late (really late) report disclaimer: A busy 2011 caused my Colombia trip reports to languish in production. But I still wanted to get them onto the forum anyway, to give my version of a multi-city trip and some of the options. And to give me something to look back on while sitting in my rocking chair in my golden years.
In 2010 I resolved to finally break my Latin American cherry. Asian, African, and European adventures had been great, but there was a huge hole in my mongering resume. And the Latinas I'the sessioned with in London and at German FKKs gave me an idea of what I was missing. So the question was just which country. Ultimately I decided to make this a combined tourist and mongering trip, and since I had already to several countries in South America, plus Mexico, in my pre-mongering days, I decided that Colombia offered the best mix of things to do and giving me the chance to show plenty of travel photos when friends and family asked about my trip. That's a real consideration: I've had a few trips in Asia and the Caribbean where I had to take quickly snap some shots of a beach or a food stall on the street to give a visual accounting of where I had gone for my holiday!
Well, Colombia was perfect for that, so I headed there for about two weeks in late November 2010. My posts on the various area branches. My basic itinerary was 1 full day in Bogota and then a flight to the Amazon for 3 days; back to Bogota and a trip south to small towns San Augustin and Tierradento plus Popoyan (3 mongering-free days) ; then a day in Cali; north to for some celibate time in the mountains around the town of Salento; then to Medellin for 3 pussy-filled days, and a final night and day in Bogota.
Here I'll leave it at this, my assessment of my trip and of Colombian women. Did I have fun on this trip? Absolutely! I loved the diversity of the girls, from ultra-light skinned blondes to tanned brunettes to African hotties, though I generally didn't see many of model caliber, many more in the cute range. As far as looks I was pleased but not overwhelmed. A bigger issue was that on the visits to the casas and clubs few of my sessions (about 15 girls altogether) would rank among my more enjoyable ones. The ones that are most memorable from the trip were due to the girl's personality, and not due to the passion of the action, which was almost always kissing-free, and infrequently featuring uncovered blow jobs (though pussy licking, a real favorite of mine, was usually on the menu). The most intense experience was probably with an experience in Bogota with a girl from now-defunct Girlfriend 4 a Week.
The GFE was an elusive beast on that trip. Was it my choice of venue? I tried a range of places, but did miss out on Casa Blanca in Medellin, where from what I read the experiences, though often pricier than say casas, seem to be more intense. Were the places I visited too 'commercial, ' as one fellow mongerer suggested? Maybe, but in many visits to German FKK's the supermarket of play for pay, I've regularly had GFE experiences. Was it my limited Spanish? Maybe, but on trips since to Central America, the Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico, that didn't get in the way. With the Dominican girls and El Salvador girls especially the sessions were very passionate, which leads me to believe that there's something cultural here that I was missing how do you crack the Colombiana GFE code?
Can anyone help me, I'm thinking of taking my american ntsc playstation3 to Colombia, does anyone know if it will work there? Just need it during downtime, when I get rid of my gal, during the mornings as nothing much to do in the day.
Rgds
[QUOTE=Jasss; 1266699]Can anyone help me, I'm thinking of taking my american ntsc playstation3 to Colombia, does anyone know if it will work there? Just need it during downtime, when I get rid of my gal, during the mornings as nothing much to do in the day.
Rgds[/QUOTE]I would think not. The PSP should work down there as all you need is the system, internet connection, and a TV. The NTSC that is the World Coding PSP uses so we can't play import games correct? If NTSC is what I think it is it would only effect you if you tried to play a game with a different World Coding. Correct? I got my buddy's kid a Wii and it worked fine down in Col.
Good luck and report back
Question to Colombia aficionados,
What is the best / safest way to travel inside Colombia? I am planning a 2-3 week trip to Colombia in Sept this year. I want to hit Cali, Barranquilla, and maybe Bogota, spending 5-6 days in each city (I've only been to CTG). I searched the forum but didn't find anything related to this. Any advice appreciated.
Unfortunately I had to create a new handle here as my handle from AP (SunSeeker) is apparently already in use.
[QUOTE=Luvnlatinas; 1269117]Question to Colombia aficionados,
What is the best / safest way to travel inside Colombia? I am planning a 2-3 week trip to Colombia in Sept this year. I want to hit Cali, Barranquilla, and maybe Bogota, spending 5-6 days in each city (I've only been to CTG). I searched the forum but didn't find anything related to this. Any advice appreciated.
Unfortunately I had to create a new handle here as my handle from AP (SunSeeker) is apparently already in use.[/QUOTE]I find that with some planning and luck you can find inter-country flights for less than $100 a pop. Both have pros and cons. Flights: faster, SAFE. Bus: 10x Longer than flighte. 10x Cheaper, Safe but clearly there is more risk on a road with land slides and stuff like that.
[QUOTE=LuvnLatinas; 1269117]Question to Colombia aficionados,
What is the best / safest way to travel inside Colombia? I am planning a 2-3 week trip to Colombia in Sept this year. I want to hit Cali, Barranquilla, and maybe Bogota, spending 5-6 days in each city (I've only been to CTG). I searched the forum but didn't find anything related to this. Any advice appreciated.
Unfortunately I had to create a new handle here as my handle from AP (SunSeeker) is apparently already in use.[/QUOTE]The safest way is to fly but it is also the most expensive depending on what city you are flying from to these destinations and if you purchase a ticket while they are having a promotion. Second would be hired car, possibly cheaper than flying but again it would depend on where you are coming from, some domestic flights can be quite inexpensive if purchased during promotions that the domestic airlines have. Bus travel is generally safe but once again depends on what route you are taking. I have traveled quite extensively by bus in Colombia and haven't had a single problem but I don't travel known problem areas. When traveling by bus or car there are two safety issues,accidents which are frequent on some roads and roadblocks by thieves which are less common these days but are of particular concern on a handful of roads even today.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1269384]The safest way is to fly but it is also the most expensive depending on what city you are flying from to these destinations and if you purchase a ticket while they are having a promotion. Second would be hired car, possibly cheaper than flying but again it would depend on where you are coming from, some domestic flights can be quite inexpensive if purchased during promotions that the domestic airlines have. Bus travel is generally safe but once again depends on what route you are taking. I have traveled quite extensively by bus in Colombia and haven't had a single problem but I don't travel known problem areas. When traveling by bus or car there are two safety issues,accidents which are frequent on some roads and roadblocks by thieves which are less common these days but are of particular concern on a handful of roads even today.[/QUOTE]Thanks M! I bought airfare now as the $$$ has jumped about $150 since I first looked in March. 1 week in Cali and 1 week in Barranquilla. 2-16 Sept. A lot of flying in and out of Bogota though. Now to find chica friendly hotels or apartments, but I think I have time to do that.
My general rule. If it's more than 9 hours by bus I'll fly. If not, then bus.
After taking AA to Colombia for the last 7 years, I will not take them anymore!
Searching for the best rate (have been taking avianca lately for the last 3 trips) This time I found AA to MDE came in about $40 cheaper and I was like "wow" couldn't believe it. So I jumped on it, but guess what.
NOW they only allow 1 piece of checked luggage (which NO WHERE did I see that posted clearly on their site upon check out) so they charge $70 each piece each way. So what am I going to do with my extra piece of luggage? You are forced to eat it BOTH ways. So thats an additional $140.
BEFORE you could choose your seat, so NOW if you want to choose your seat towards the front, even if they are empty, they call those seats "preferred" and they charge you an additional $35 GTFO.
The flight get you there LATER than the AVIANCA and leaves at a ridiculous hour when you leave, forcing you to leave MDE at 4am!
FOOD: This is what really pissed me off, BEFORE you would get pasta or chicken, NOW they gave me a cold shitty HAM and CHEESE sandwich, NO CHOICE And for the return for breakfast you used to get Eggs and sausage or pancakes NOW they give you a SHITTY COLD Colombian Turkey and Cheese.
NO Hot towel on AA.
NO FREE BEER, WINE or MIXED COCKTAIL on AA. ALL FREE on AVIANCA.
SORRY AA. You have lost a good customer and I will tell everybody I know not to fly you!
Just had to let it out! Ahhh I feel better! LOL
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1270315]After taking AA to Colombia for the last 7 years, I will not take them anymore!
Searching for the best rate (have been taking avianca lately for the last 3 trips) This time I found AA to MDE came in about $40 cheaper and I was like "wow" couldn't believe it. So I jumped on it, but guess what.
NOW they only allow 1 piece of checked luggage (which NO WHERE did I see that posted clearly on their site upon check out) so they charge $70 each piece each way. So what am I going to do with my extra piece of luggage? You are forced to eat it BOTH ways. So thats an additional $140.
BEFORE you could choose your seat, so NOW if you want to choose your seat towards the front, even if they are empty, they call those seats "preferred" and they charge you an additional $35 GTFO.
The flight get you there LATER than the AVIANCA and leaves at a ridiculous hour when you leave, forcing you to leave MDE at 4am!
FOOD: This is what really pissed me off, BEFORE you would get pasta or chicken, NOW they gave me a cold shitty HAM and CHEESE sandwich, NO CHOICE And for the return for breakfast you used to get Eggs and sausage or pancakes NOW they give you a SHITTY COLD Colombian Turkey and Cheese.
NO Hot towel on AA.
NO FREE BEER, WINE or MIXED COCKTAIL on AA. ALL FREE on AVIANCA.
SORRY AA. You have lost a good customer and I will tell everybody I know not to fly you!
Just had to let it out! Ahhh I feel better! LOL[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that. I'm stuck with AA cause it's most convenient airlines that fly out of Houston. That extra $140 could of gone to something more important. LOL. I have to try to squeeze everything in one bag cause I'm staying in Miami the week after the Medellin trip. Just wish United that had flights that made sense for its supposedly largest hub.
There a couple of websites (I don't know if I'm allowed to post their website on here) that have a good number of Colombian chicas doing their shows there. What's the odds of a guy actually dating and banging a webcam chica? Has anyone done it before?
Anybody help me on staying in bocagrande apt or el laguito apt < as far as closeness to all the best stuff! Any and all info would be helpful, as this is my first time going!
[QUOTE=Amb832;1270328]Sorry to hear that. I'm stuck with AA cause it's most convenient airlines that fly out of Houston. That extra $140 could of gone to something more important. LOL. I have to try to squeeze everything in one bag cause I'm staying in Miami the week after the Medellin trip. Just wish United that had flights that made sense for its supposedly largest hub.[/QUOTE]Did you try Copa airlines?
My two colombian pesos.
Kukulkan
[QUOTE=Amb832;1270328]Sorry to hear that. I'm stuck with AA cause it's most convenient airlines that fly out of Houston. That extra $140 could of gone to something more important. LOL. I have to try to squeeze everything in one bag cause I'm staying in Miami the week after the Medellin trip. Just wish United that had flights that made sense for its supposedly largest hub.[/QUOTE]Have you thought about Continental / United from Houston. That's my favorite airline right now.
[QUOTE=Amb832;1270328]Sorry to hear that. I'm stuck with AA cause it's most convenient airlines that fly out of Houston. That extra $140 could of gone to something more important. LOL. I have to try to squeeze everything in one bag cause I'm staying in Miami the week after the Medellin trip. Just wish United that had flights that made sense for its supposedly largest hub.[/QUOTE]I almost always fly Continental / United / Copa Airlines out of Houston, with an hour layover in Panama. I was more happy before the Continental / United merge, but the "new United" is pretty damn good, and the prices are only slightly more than AA. But to me it is worth it.
I should say I am "Elite" status now, so I don't usually get the petty extra charges anymore. But this also says that I'm willing to rack up alot of miles with them.
Hope this helps.
OD
You meant 'intra'.
I find Colombia quite expensive to fly in. However, the buses takes forever due to the distances and the quality of the roads. Therefore, although it's a lot more expensive by air, for the average traveller who might only be here for 1, 2 or 3 weeks you really should fly and avoid wasting time on a long bus journey.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1269207]I find that with some planning and luck you can find inter-country flights for less than $100 a pop. Both have pros and cons. Flights: faster, SAFE. Bus: 10x Longer than flighte. 10x Cheaper, Safe but clearly there is more risk on a road with land slides and stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
Can anybody tell me the dif between the two, I trying to figure out where to stay, I have two dif rental options, I want to be on the beach!
Thanks
Whats the difference from staying in Boca Grande or El Laquito?
This will be my first trip.
[QUOTE=Orgasm Donor; 1270526]I almost always fly Continental / United / Copa Airlines out of Houston, with an hour layover in Panama. I was more happy before the Continental / United merge, but the "new United" is pretty damn good, and the prices are only slightly more than AA. But to me it is worth it.
I should say I am "Elite" status now, so I don't usually get the petty extra charges anymore. But this also says that I'm willing to rack up alot of miles with them.
Hope this helps.
OD[/QUOTE]I flew only one time after the continental / united merger and to was to Rio. Service was ok, but bad luck was the flight got delayed because of mechanical issues. Haven't flown united much be because their prices for international trips are expensive now.
Houston to Rio on continental in 2010 $930.
Houston to Rio on continental / united in 2011 $1450.
Houston to Rio on united in 2012 $1975
[QUOTE=Amb832;1270346]There a couple of websites (I don't know if I'm allowed to post their website on here) that have a good number of Colombian chicas doing their shows there. What's the odds of a guy actually dating and banging a webcam chica? Has anyone done it before?[/QUOTE]I actually wound up marrying one. Long story. But truth be told, I'd advise against it. Most of them are fodder for us local musicians here.
If you do decide to proceed keep things cut and dried and very casual. If you see obvious chemistry on HER PART (your part does NOT count) you can take things further. Most girls honestly do not bang their clients. In general they are doing the webcam so they don't have to touch anybody.
[QUOTE=RacShack; 1270563]Whats the difference from staying in Boca Grande or El Laquito?
This will be my first trip.[/QUOTE]There isn't much a difference between Boca Grande and El Laquito. They are within easy walking distance of each other. The beaches in Boca Grande are nicer, but more crowded (I. E, more touts and beach peddlers). If you're in Boca Grande & staying in an apartment, there are two supermarkets where you can buy grocery. El Laquito is slightly further away from the centro area so the taxi cost might be more expensive, but it shouldn't be much.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1270682]I actually wound up marrying one. Long story. But truth be told, I'd advise against it. Most of them are fodder for us local musicians here.
If you do decide to proceed keep things cut and dried and very casual. If you see obvious chemistry on HER PART (your part does NOT count) you can take things further. Most girls honestly do not bang their clients. In general they are doing the webcam so they don't have to touch anybody.[/QUOTE]I was talking to a girl on colombiancupid. Com and after awhile she gave me her MSN. One day we was chatting on MSN and she turned on her cam. She wasn't doing anything just chatting and she was fully clothed. Probably a few months later I stumble on a webcam website where a bunch of girls were performing and during that day she was on there. This time she was in a thong and topless. Nice body but fake boobs.
I was surprised how much money guys were giving her just to suck on a dildo and stick it in her ass. Well atleast I got a free show and see what her body look like. LOL. I probably wouldn't date her not cause she a webcam model, it was the fact some doctor did a horrible job on her boobs.
Many members have alluded to the jump in the prices of p4p services in Medellin, (especially) Cartagena and other cities. I just found the inflation rates in Colombia: 5. 5/2007, 7/2008, 4.2/2009, 3.1/2010, 3.8/2011. The accumulative (compounded) inflation rate for the past five years is about 26 percent. Major cities should have higher inflation rates. To me, the increases in the prices of SWs and of Centro casas in the last five years are not out of line with the CPI increase. But the chica prices in both low and high end strip clubs and high end casas increased a lot more than general prices. It seems to me, they are increasing the price by 10-20 percent every year. Probably this is not because of the gringo influx, but because of the expansion of Colombian middle class.
[QUOTE=RacShack; 1270556]Can anybody tell me the dif between the two, I trying to figure out where to stay, I have two dif rental options, I want to be on the beach!
Thanks[/QUOTE]If you could give us a little more info on your two options, like which buildings and / or rental manager / owner are you considering, I bet one or more here could provide more specific feedback / insight. With what you've provided, all I can offer is: you can be "on" the beach or not on (but damn close) in both. The biggest deciding factor should be the people factor, such as who will you be dealing with and trusting, along with the management, stability, security, policies, etc, of the building.
[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1270790]If you could give us a little more info on your two options, like which buildings and / or rental manager / owner are you considering, I bet one or more here could provide more specific feedback / insight. With what you've provided, all I can offer is: you can be "on" the beach or not on (but damn close) in both. The biggest deciding factor should be the people factor, such as who will you be dealing with and trusting, along with the management, stability, security, policies, etc, of the building.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I decided (locking it up today) to stay a martins place right on the beach< el laguito, the other place was one of juns rentals, but place I wanted was booked, anybody ever stay at martins place? Any feed back about the place would be great!
[QUOTE=RacShack;1270938]Thanks, I decided (locking it up today) to stay a martins place right on the beach< el laguito, the other place was one of juns rentals, but place I wanted was booked, anybody ever stay at martins place? Any feed back about the place would be great![/QUOTE]I do not have personal first hand knowledge of Martin's apartment, but based on what I've heard from others you should be just fine. I have met Martin once, merely just introduced by a mutual acquaintance, and in the 5-10 minutes of being around him he came across as a decent guy. I have not heard any negatives about him, nor has anyone shared any negative rental experiences from renting his place in Laguito. From what little specifics I know, great location on the beach and ample spaciousness. Maybe a little extra street noise on occasion (for ex. Chiva bus waiting while gathering crowd, etc.) , but that doesn't go on forever and the sound of splashing waves should provide for an otherwise tranquil state of mind.
There should be some people here on ISG that can provide first hand accounts of renting Martin's apartment. From what I know, he has a solid reputation in Laguito and I know of no reason to advise otherwise. Enjoy your trip!
[QUOTE=Amb832; 1270576]I flew only one time after the continental / united merger and to was to Rio. Service was ok, but bad luck was the flight got delayed because of mechanical issues. Haven't flown united much be because their prices for international trips are expensive now.
Houston to Rio on continental in 2010 $930.
Houston to Rio on continental / united in 2011 $1450.
Houston to Rio on united in 2012 $1975[/QUOTE]Surprising as it may seem, Brasil is VERY seasonal with airline fares. I have seen fares in this range within the span of a year.
By my observation, I would not contribute it to the airline merger, strengthening Brazilian dollar, expanding Colombian middle class, inflation or fuel prices.
IMHO it all depends how far in advance you book, day of the week you fly, and what season. Brasil in particular, rates jump up mid-November until Carnival, then it drops again. But with Olympics and World Cup in the near future, I think Brasil will be feeling bold and exclusive, and they will be looking to cash in.
[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1271246]I do not have personal first hand knowledge of Martin's apartment, but based on what I've heard from others you should be just fine. I have met Martin once, merely just introduced by a mutual acquaintance, and in the 5-10 minutes of being around him he came across as a decent guy. I have not heard any negatives about him, nor has anyone shared any negative rental experiences from renting his place in Laguito. From what little specifics I know, great location on the beach and ample spaciousness. Maybe a little extra street noise on occasion (for ex. Chiva bus waiting while gathering crowd, etc.) , but that doesn't go on forever and the sound of splashing waves should provide for an otherwise tranquil state of mind.
There should be some people here on ISG that can provide first hand accounts of renting Martin's apartment. From what I know, he has a solid reputation in Laguito and I know of no reason to advise otherwise. Enjoy your trip![/QUOTE]Thanks hilltopper, I've talked to him on phone sounds very real person to me, even comeing to meet me at airport, and got on to him by hillbilly request (thanks for all your help hillbilly69) I think you put me in right direction for my first trip! Should be a good one! Anyone their this week April 22-29? Thanks hilltopper for the tranquil state of mind thing, I feel very comfortable with the discion I made!
I hope this isn't too far off-topic. I have a novia in-training. She's 26, a lawyer, and has a career in government. She doesn't make much money, no children, or has many assets (besides her lovely rear end). I invited her for a visit and with her credentials I thought she might have a decent chance to get a tourist visa but she was denied (they weren't very nice about it either). I contacted one of my Senators office and they offered to send a letter which they said might help with another attempt.
I'm curious has anyone tried importing a girl on a tourist visa and had success? Or is another attempt more money down a rat hole?
[QUOTE=Fethard; 1271528]I hope this isn't too far off-topic. I have a novia in-training. She's 26, a lawyer, and has a career in government. She doesn't make much money, no children, or has many assets (besides her lovely rear end). I invited her for a visit and with her credentials I thought she might have a decent chance to get a tourist visa but she was denied (they weren't very nice about it either). I contacted one of my Senators office and they offered to send a letter which they said might help with another attempt.
I'm curious has anyone tried importing a girl on a tourist visa and had success? Or is another attempt more money down a rat hole?[/QUOTE]1) they only approve 2% of tourist visas these days last I heard.
2) why the holy hell couldn't SHE pay for her own damn visa? Lawyers here if they're any good at ALL make good money! Right there there's a red flag buddy!
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1272014]1) they only approve 2% of tourist visas these days last I heard.
2) why the holy hell couldn't SHE pay for her own damn visa? Lawyers here if they're any good at ALL make good money! Right there there's a red flag buddy![/QUOTE]I personally know the OP & I agree that this "Visa" routine has been tried by many guys. Stop giving PAPAYA & start dealing with the reality of the situation. Keep your Paista where she is the most happiest. In Colombia!
Medellin Es Una Chimba!
[QUOTE=Fethard; 1271528]I hope this isn't too far off-topic. I have a novia in-training. She's 26, a lawyer, and has a career in government. She doesn't make much money, no children, or has many assets (besides her lovely rear end). I invited her for a visit and with her credentials I thought she might have a decent chance to get a tourist visa but she was denied (they weren't very nice about it either). I contacted one of my Senators office and they offered to send a letter which they said might help with another attempt.
I'm curious has anyone tried importing a girl on a tourist visa and had success? Or is another attempt more money down a rat hole?[/QUOTE]No offense but it sounds as though she has YOU in training not the other way around. Keep her in Colombia otherwise you will be one sorry SOB.
Once a Colombiana has had a taste of the good life, there's no going back, only up. If you can't get her what she wants or to the USA she will find someone and another way to get there.
The disparity is enormous between a Colombiana born in Colombia and living in the states and one that you find on the streets in Colombia. The ones in the states, their humbleness is quickly tossed out the window and become indoctrinated with "choca de oro" syndrome like their gringa sisters.
[quote=miamiheatluver; 1272226]once a colombiana has had a taste of the good life, there's no going back, only up. if you can't get her what she wants or to the usa she will find someone and another way to get there.
the disparity is enormous between a colombiana born in colombia and living in the states and one that you find on the streets in colombia. the ones in the states, their humbleness is quickly tossed out the window and become indoctrinated with "choca de oro" syndrome like their gringa sisters.[/quote]you got that right bro! but i'd like to add that when a latina chick get to the states they tend to pull the fat parachute (fast food and driving everywhere vs walking to the bus, running to catch a cab, ect) and then they get way stuck up! imo white chicks are just stupid and scared usa-lifestyle latinas get their heads gassed up and think they [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] awesome and fart channel #5!
[QUOTE=Fethard; 1271528]I hope this isn't too far off-topic. I have a novia in-training. She's 26, a lawyer, and has a career in government. She doesn't make much money, no children, or has many assets (besides her lovely rear end). I invited her for a visit and with her credentials I thought she might have a decent chance to get a tourist visa but she was denied (they weren't very nice about it either). I contacted one of my Senators office and they offered to send a letter which they said might help with another attempt.
I'm curious has anyone tried importing a girl on a tourist visa and had success? Or is another attempt more money down a rat hole?[/QUOTE]I have flown in 6. Each was different type of Visas, a couple tourist Visas, University Visas, I got tired of it, I relized I don't like anyone invading my man cave. I live in a rural area so they arrive with no drivers license even though I could give them a vehicle. I am never happier than I am to drop them off at the airport and send them home. I have a few I could fly in now but don't, easier to go and see them. Every single time they were different in Colombia than here, like Jekyle and Hyde syndrome. I would fly one in for a week if I took the week off but no more than that. Pics of a couple of diff ones I flew in.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1272226]The disparity is enormous between a Colombiana born in Colombia and living in the states and one that you find on the streets in Colombia. The ones in the states, their humbleness is quickly tossed out the window and become indoctrinated with "choca de oro" syndrome like their gringa sisters.[/QUOTE]And this rule doesn't just go for Colombia. I won't go as far to say that every woman is like that but it is a pretty noticeable margin. Just try talking to any woman who is in the USA from a foreign country. Most won't even let you get within 10 feet of them, don't even think of asking them out. This goes double for Colombianas, Brasileiras, and Dominicanas.
And as the guys said, if she is a lawyer then she should have some assets and you shouldn't be the one expected to finance her attempt to go to the USA. Red flag just as BC said.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1272294]And this rule doesn't just go for Colombia. I won't go as far to say that every woman is like that but it is a pretty noticeable margin. Just try talking to any woman who is in the USA from a foreign country. Most won't even let you get within 10 feet of them, don't even think of asking them out. This goes double for Colombianas, Brasileiras, and Dominicanas.
And as the guys said, if she is a lawyer then she should have some assets and you shouldn't be the one expected to finance her attempt to go to the USA. Red flag just as BC said.[/QUOTE]Part of that is that most people who get to the US from Latin America think it's going to be a lot better than it actually is.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1272313]Part of that is that most people who get to the US from Latin America think it's going to be a lot better than it actually is.[/QUOTE]And they always want to go back. I laugh at them and tell them that we fucking WORK over here. It is not all fun and games. They see us on vacation and watch TV shows and think that the country is all about fantasy land.
Don'T Do It! Don't bring girls to america. They will just get fat and lazy. Fall in love many times over in Colombia. You will get sick of them and if you marry one, forget. You will lose half your shit. Why can't you just enjoy the other countries and keep a black book with many girls.
Anybody know where to purchase an affordable copy of Photoshop in Medellin? I'm going to C. C. Monterrey today to have a look and see if they have it, at a reasonable price. Any other ideas? Someplace in El Centro maybe? Surely there are Colombians using this program and I doubt they are paying $670 for it, or whatever ridiculous amount Adobe is asking nowadays.
[QUOTE=Napalm;1283402]Anybody know where to purchase an affordable copy of Photoshop in Medellin? I'm going to C. C. Monterrey today to have a look and see if they have it, at a reasonable price. Any other ideas? Someplace in El Centro maybe? Surely there are Colombians using this program and I doubt they are paying $670 for it, or whatever ridiculous amount Adobe is asking nowadays.[/QUOTE]I doubt they have it that much cheaper, would likely be a counterfeit copy if it was. Your better bet is to find a student and have them buy a student version at their college bookstore for a lot less money. That is what I did. Or you could pirate it if you really want to save money and don't have an ethical issue with doing so.
Picked up Photoshop CS5 at C. C. Monterrey. Cost: 30, 000 COP. Paid more for the thumb drive I had to buy to put it on, since I didn't have my laptop with me and for some reason he couldn't put it on a disk. FYI you need at least a 16GB thumb drive. Picked one up in the same C. C. For 45, 000 COP.
Well well well, where to start. My second trip to Medellin was a good one. Stayed at Casa Blanca 2 and cannot give them enough kudos for their service in every respect. When I first got there Wed. Night at 10pm could not wait to get going so I went to the strip club, San Diego. This club was so so (or a no go) w / a 5 beer minimum to sit down. I paid for 3 and allowed a big sweaty blonde to fuck me for 200, 000 pesos. She made an effort to please but she was sticky and the place was uninspiring. I popped and got out of there. I am never patient when my wheels hit the ground and I always regret my hasty decisions. Not a huge loss but another lesson learned. When you have a good wingman this shit doesn't happen. No Prob, time for some sleep.
For the next few days I enjoyed the low hanging fruit at CB 1 and there were a few nights w / lots of partying and serious drinking by all. These ladies always amaze me w / their ability to put away the booze. Shot after shot they just keep on going all night long, very impressive.
The other guest were for the most part engagable and friendly. Some cool guys and some geeks, the ladies treat everyone the same from what I saw.
Boyd took some guys on a good casa tour and the lineup at New Life was impressive (that day). The other casas were hit and miss but the casas are a great value and if you find something you like you can make arrangements for more at the CB. The casas close at 6 or 7pm so the ladies will work later I'm sure. One of my fellow guest enjoyed an extremely hot negra (real black) for a few nights in a row. Man she was freaking sexy and real black!
On Friday I think I did my first latina 3some and these two ladies were very sexy. I could say to either one, stand in the corner and fuck yourself and the show was ON! I never understood PSE but watching these sexy ladies squeezing their ample young tits and fingering their pussies was a good thing. They were an excellent pair, which I repeated w / a few days later. I did venture on the dark side w / them and paid a serious price in mental anguish torture for a few LONG hours after the fun. Will not return to the dark side next trip.
I always take fotos wherever I go so and (during the last year) I enjoyed looking at these beautiful ladies I had in 2011. All the ladies (I enjoyed) from last year were from the Casa Blanca afternoon festivities. One in particular was so beautiful I wanted to see her again. She wasn't at the CB 1 so I asked Boyd about her and he gave me her number. When I met her again this trip she was surprised and happy to see me again. We communicated alright and drank a few beers. We fucked and she was on her way. One of my fellow guest mentioned afterward that she worked at New Life and I freaking couldn't believe it. I asked Boyd about this and he said she did. This lady is exceptionally pretty and she has to work at NL to keep busy.
This news really shook my Medellin world. A couple days later I saw her again this time in the afternoon. In the daylight I saw her in a different way, I saw some flaws and wear and tear. Wow, she works at the sex assembly line pumping out spent male customers. After we did our thing that afternoon she told me. Sometimes I work at a store and sometimes I have sex w / Colombian men for money. It was surprising to me that she would admit that but she did w / out any prodding from me. She has such a happy spirit around me, always laughing and smiling. She also loves the camera and I took some good shots of her. Next time tho I will not pay the CB rate w / her.
I will say that I did not get assembly line sex w / her. She spent 2 + hours w / me each time I saw her. So I can have her for 32, 000 at NL for 30 minutes or 150, 000 for 2 +hours at the CB. I did not feel I paid too much, but it was shocking for me to imagine her at NL. Later, when I started thinking about the caliber of ladies (I saw) at the casas I realized there are some ddg babes fucking and sucking in these quickie factories. What a city Medellin is for the MAN, what a city. Unfuckingbelievable.
The best part of my trip tho was about to take place. I met another guest a few days before I left and he showed me the ropes about the sketchy places in Medellin. The wild frontier (in my eyes) and it was also a challenging test for me because this was certainly the underbelly of the beast. First we went to the strip clubs in EC and wandered around those streets in the afternoon. Some streets real young ones were soliciting us and you could smell the glue or paint spray that was being smoked by guys laying on the pavement. I could see why you would not want to be here at night. It was 4pm on a Wed and it was a bit much for me. I would not want to be one of the CB geek guest touring around this area, haha, they would really stick out. Hear that geeks? You know who you are. Stick w / the low hanging fruit at CB 1.
Later that night my new good buddy shows me La Mayorista (not for geeks either). It was my first taste of La Mayorista and man what an eye opener. I have been reading about this area for a couple of years now and finally I am there. It is a really small strip of bars and short time hotels. This particular Wednesday night it was jumping. The bars extend onto the sidewalk w / tables inside and out and most of the people were on the sidewalk. The music was blaring and the sidewalks were covered by the roof extended out from the bars. It was very dark w / only Colombian guys and 3 times as many hookers, for the whole block say 50 to 70 players. These ladies were all ages and some real lookers were in the mix. My bud leans up against the wall w / his beer and motions me to do the same. So here we are surrounded by locals, leaning on the outer wall of the bars in a line w / the ladies of the night. He was always funneling pussy in my face haha and finally I had to pull the trigger. I mentioned that I liked (the look) of a black girl and the next thing I know he is telling her I want to fuck her, haha. He was always doing that all day long at the strip clubs and on the street. This lady is really fine, a very skinny big breasted light skinned black lady. Saying she was a lady is a bit of a stretch. She was brand new lets say w / an extremely perfect set of C cups, (more than a handful) and a killer hardbody I will not soon forget. The cost was 35 for her and 12 for the shitty rm.
In the room she was sexy but unskilled in some areas. She gave me a nice BBBJ and did a few nice tongue tricks. A lot of slobbering (as well) which can be very sexy but when I was about to bust she inexplicably just stopped, haha, WTF are you doing you twit?
It was still worth the experience but the hotel was terrible and had a negative affect on my session w / this sweet little creature. Lots of loud talking and bumping around, very close to my door, so next trip no sleaze hotels.
But the Mayorista was a big hit for me. After my encounter w / the little black one I saw babe after babe (that I wanted) and these were really good looking young ladies too. I was almost disappointed about my choice because the ladies I saw afterward I really wanted. So now back in sex prison I am thinking about, La Mayorista. What a (one of a kind) place it is. Medellin is now a totally different place w / my new experience. This is where the fruit is up high and even more tasty at times. The ladies I saw there were really spectacular.
Usually after a trip like this (8 days) I am content for a couple of months but being that I encountered La Mayorista late in my stay I am now hungering for more and I just got back home. Not good haha. Wow. It wasn't the edge of civilization but it was close, and I like being on the edge. It was a real eye opener. Thanks buddy.
So now I am looking out my window at the GGB in my squeamish sterile city thinking about the Mayorista. I can't get the chicas I saw there out of my mind. I want to go back now, not in a month, now, haha. Not good, haha
Nice report. IMO, Mayorista and El Centro are much more fun than San Diego or Fase II. I like Luna Lunera sometimes though too. It can get going pretty good even on Mon, Tues or Wed.
Good photos. Was the redhead Leydy?
Reef
[QUOTE=Socker; 1285808]Well well well, where to start. My second trip to Medellin was a good one. Stayed at Casa Blanca 2 and cannot give them enough kudos for their service in every respect. When I first got there Wed. Night at 10pm could not wait to get going so I went to the strip club, San Diego. This club was so so (or a no go) w / a 5 beer minimum to sit down. I paid for 3 and allowed a big sweaty blonde to fuck me for 200, 000 pesos. She made an effort to please but she was sticky and the place was uninspiring. I popped and got out of there. I am never patient when my wheels hit the ground and I always regret my hasty decisions. Not a huge loss but another lesson learned. When you have a good wingman this shit doesn't happen. No Prob, time for some sleep.
For the next few days I enjoyed the low hanging fruit at CB 1 and there were a few nights w / lots of partying and serious drinking by all. These ladies always amaze me w / their ability to put away the booze. Shot after shot they just keep on going all night long, very impressive.
The other guest were for the most part engagable and friendly. Some cool guys and some geeks, the ladies treat everyone the same from what I saw.
Boyd took some guys on a good casa tour and the lineup at New Life was impressive (that day). The other casas were hit and miss but the casas are a great value and if you find something you like you can make arrangements for more at the CB. The casas close at 6 or 7pm so the ladies will work later I'm sure. One of my fellow guest enjoyed an extremely hot negra (real black) for a few nights in a row. Man she was freaking sexy and real black!
On Friday I think I did my first latina 3some and these two ladies were very sexy. I could say to either one, stand in the corner and fuck yourself and the show was ON! I never understood PSE but watching these sexy ladies squeezing their ample young tits and fingering their pussies was a good thing. They were an excellent pair, which I repeated w / a few days later. I did venture on the dark side w / them and paid a serious price in mental anguish torture for a few LONG hours after the fun. Will not return to the dark side next trip.
I always take fotos wherever I go so and (during the last year) I enjoyed looking at these beautiful ladies I had in 2011. All the ladies (I enjoyed) from last year were from the Casa Blanca afternoon festivities. One in particular was so beautiful I wanted to see her again. She wasn't at the CB 1 so I asked Boyd about her and he gave me her number. When I met her again this trip she was surprised and happy to see me again. We communicated alright and drank a few beers. We fucked and she was on her way. One of my fellow guest mentioned afterward that she worked at New Life and I freaking couldn't believe it. I asked Boyd about this and he said she did. This lady is exceptionally pretty and she has to work at NL to keep busy.
This news really shook my Medellin world. A couple days later I saw her again this time in the afternoon. In the daylight I saw her in a different way, I saw some flaws and wear and tear. Wow, she works at the sex assembly line pumping out spent male customers. After we did our thing that afternoon she told me. Sometimes I work at a store and sometimes I have sex w / Colombian men for money. It was surprising to me that she would admit that but she did w / out any prodding from me. She has such a happy spirit around me, always laughing and smiling. She also loves the camera and I took some good shots of her. Next time tho I will not pay the CB rate w / her.
I will say that I did not get assembly line sex w / her. She spent 2 + hours w / me each time I saw her. So I can have her for 32, 000 at NL for 30 minutes or 150, 000 for 2 +hours at the CB. I did not feel I paid too much, but it was shocking for me to imagine her at NL. Later, when I started thinking about the caliber of ladies (I saw) at the casas I realized there are some ddg babes fucking and sucking in these quickie factories. What a city Medellin is for the MAN, what a city. Unfuckingbelievable.
The best part of my trip tho was about to take place. I met another guest a few days before I left and he showed me the ropes about the sketchy places in Medellin. The wild frontier (in my eyes) and it was also a challenging test for me because this was certainly the underbelly of the beast. First we went to the strip clubs in EC and wandered around those streets in the afternoon. Some streets real young ones were soliciting us and you could smell the glue or paint spray that was being smoked by guys laying on the pavement. I could see why you would not want to be here at night. It was 4pm on a Wed and it was a bit much for me. I would not want to be one of the CB geek guest touring around this area, haha, they would really stick out. Hear that geeks? You know who you are. Stick w / the low hanging fruit at CB 1.
Later that night my new good buddy shows me La Mayorista (not for geeks either). It was my first taste of La Mayorista and man what an eye opener. I have been reading about this area for a couple of years now and finally I am there. It is a really small strip of bars and short time hotels. This particular Wednesday night it was jumping. The bars extend onto the sidewalk w / tables inside and out and most of the people were on the sidewalk. The music was blaring and the sidewalks were covered by the roof extended out from the bars. It was very dark w / only Colombian guys and 3 times as many hookers, for the whole block say 50 to 70 players. These ladies were all ages and some real lookers were in the mix. My bud leans up against the wall w / his beer and motions me to do the same. So here we are surrounded by locals, leaning on the outer wall of the bars in a line w / the ladies of the night. He was always funneling pussy in my face haha and finally I had to pull the trigger. I mentioned that I liked (the look) of a black girl and the next thing I know he is telling her I want to fuck her, haha. He was always doing that all day long at the strip clubs and on the street. This lady is really fine, a very skinny big breasted light skinned black lady. Saying she was a lady is a bit of a stretch. She was brand new lets say w / an extremely perfect set of C cups, (more than a handful) and a killer hardbody I will not soon forget. The cost was 35 for her and 12 for the shitty rm.
In the room she was sexy but unskilled in some areas. She gave me a nice BBBJ and did a few nice tongue tricks. A lot of slobbering (as well) which can be very sexy but when I was about to bust she inexplicably just stopped, haha, WTF are you doing you twit?
It was still worth the experience but the hotel was terrible and had a negative affect on my session w / this sweet little creature. Lots of loud talking and bumping around, very close to my door, so next trip no sleaze hotels.
But the Mayorista was a big hit for me. After my encounter w / the little black one I saw babe after babe (that I wanted) and these were really good looking young ladies too. I was almost disappointed about my choice because the ladies I saw afterward I really wanted. So now back in sex prison I am thinking about, La Mayorista. What a (one of a kind) place it is. Medellin is now a totally different place w / my new experience. This is where the fruit is up high and even more tasty at times. The ladies I saw there were really spectacular.
Usually after a trip like this (8 days) I am content for a couple of months but being that I encountered La Mayorista late in my stay I am now hungering for more and I just got back home. Not good haha. Wow. It wasn't the edge of civilization but it was close, and I like being on the edge. It was a real eye opener. Thanks buddy.
So now I am looking out my window at the GGB in my squeamish sterile city thinking about the Mayorista. I can't get the chicas I saw there out of my mind. I want to go back now, not in a month, now, haha. Not good, haha[/QUOTE]
Hello Gents,
I haven't posted anything in awhile because I was bit by the love bug over a year ago and I've been traveling back and forth to Barranquilla to visit my novia and her family. I have mongered in Cartagena and Medellin previously and I pay my $20 a year to ISG because I like to keep informed of the latest news and I enjoy the forum. I recently read an article on a new domestic airline in Colombia,
[url]http://www.vivacolombia.co[/url]
That I thought you should know about. They have low introductory prices so this is great for those that want to monger across Colombia or fly chicas to meet you in your city. Take care.
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[QUOTE=Socker; 1285808]Well well well, where to start. My second trip to Medellin was a good one. Stayed at Casa Blanca 2 and cannot give them enough kudos for their service in every respect. When I first got there Wed. Night at 10pm could not wait to get going so I went to the strip club, San Diego. This club was...[/QUOTE]What is this dark side you won't return to?
[QUOTE=Kelso1;1286857]What is this dark side you won't return to?[/QUOTE]I probably should have left that part out of my tr but I thought it might interest some. Lets face it, people and their demons have interesting tales to tell. In the 80's I went thru a dark period in my life, and like many others I came out of it in one piece. There is more than one temptation in Colombia. Life is more fun w / out the yea, enough said.
[QUOTE=Socker;1285808]I did venture on the dark side w / them and paid a serious price in mental anguish torture for a few LONG hours after the fun. Will not return to the dark side next trip.[/QUOTE]I'm curious too.
What dark side did you go to with mental anguish torture?
Were you guys practicing voodoo or satinic rituals?
Good report though.
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1287029]I'm curious too.
What dark side did you go to with mental anguish torture?
Were you guys practicing voodoo or satinic rituals?
Good report though.[/QUOTE]Dark side = Shemales? LOL jk
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1287029]I'm curious too.
What dark side did you go to with mental anguish torture?
Were you guys practicing voodoo or satinic rituals?
Good report though.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha no voodoo, no HeShes Ha Ha. Lots of people have a darkside and it could involve any extreme obsession I / e, gambling, eating, sex, canoeing, haha. It seems all the inhabitants here on ISG have lived a charmed life to date, haha, not me. I can easily visit my past demons in Col. And have done so w / much self control but every now and then the demon will put a hurt on you in the form of a hangover. A (severe) Pepsi hangover in the wee hours of the morning is similar to how Angel felt at the end of the Wild Bunch movie. Angel was tied to an auto and dragged around town for an hour or two. That's how I felt one particular night after my 3some. The ladies are young and can handle this stuff but I suffered like Angel for 2/3 hours haha, A Pepsi hangover is a thousand times worse than a alcohol hangover and it happens before you can sleep. Hope that clears things up a little better.
Now my problem back home is how the fuck can I get back there to La Mayorista. I made my first trip there (La Mayorista) and I liked it way too much. What are the decent hotels in LM not too far from the action. Next trip will include no gringo compound. I will leave the safety of the gringo nest and stay in La Mayorista or El Centro area. Advice appreciated.
In general just trying to have fun and share my story. Haha AND Cheers.
1) For hotels in Mayo, Central Plaza and Macedonia Plaza are decent hotels. CP is better than MP, but MP is just a half block from the chica street while CP is five blocks a way. Ladies at MP are pretty and nice.
2) As for LM vs. EC hotels, I had a similar question myself. If your actions are centered on (spend more hours) Mayo than centro, a hotel in Mayo would be better. I used to stay in Mayo for years. But I found that my actions in Mayo are only for 3 hours between 9pm-midnight while I spend more hours for casas, strip clubs and SWs in Centro. So I stay at a hotel in Centro and taxi to Mayo in the night recent years.
[QUOTE=Socker; 1287571]What are the decent hotels in LM not too far from the action. Next trip will include no gringo compound. I will leave the safety of the gringo nest and stay in La Mayorista or El Centro area. Advice appreciated.
In general just trying to have fun and share my story. Haha AND Cheers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Socker;1287571]In general just trying to have fun and share my story. Haha AND Cheers.[/QUOTE]Sounds good amigo! Glad there was no voodoo involved haha.
At this moment, in Brasil, getting a foot massage from my Brasileira girlfriend, reading ISG on the IPad.
Not bad ehh.
See ya on the Mayo in a bit!
Matt do you stay at the Nutibara Hotel in El Centro? Thats is my favorite. Great location, right in the heart of town, close walk to all the action.
Now we're getting somewhere! Thanks MP for that info and advice, it is Huge. The great guy I met at CB really brought me to the next level by showing me the ropes in EC and LM. I am so jacked up about my new understanding of the layout and the possibilities in Medellin I am going nuts. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Now how do I tell the wife I'm going back in 3/4 months, Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Oh Shit!
Gentlemen,
I am about to start a business in Colombia and I'm looking for someone who can handle the whole company formation procedure.
Was wondering if any of you forum members with experience in this matter can suggest someone and / or a studio in particular.
Any help is appreciated.
Bless
[QUOTE=LittleTruths; 1287909]Gentlemen,
I am about to start a business in Colombia and I'm looking for someone who can handle the whole company formation procedure.
Was wondering if any of you forum members with experience in this matter can suggest someone and / or a studio in particular.
Any help is appreciated.
Bless[/QUOTE]Studio? And what kind of business pray tell might that be, why don't you enlighten us.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1287915]Studio? And what kind of business pray tell might that be, why don't you enlighten us.[/QUOTE]Sorry about that. I meant Estudio, not Studio.
[QUOTE=Socker;1287571]Next trip will include no gringo compound. I will leave the safety of the gringo nest and stay in La Mayorista or El Centro area. Advice appreciated.[/QUOTE]I've ALWAYS met a few gringos staying in one of these hotels on every trip that I stayed in Mayo. Not sure there'll be a 'no gringo coumpound' or hotels there. And it is a good thing having these guys around to chat during 'downtime'. You might see me in Mayo on your next trip.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1288018]I've ALWAYS met a few gringos staying in one of these hotels on every trip that I stayed in Mayo. Not sure there'll be a 'no gringo coumpound' or hotels there. And it is a good thing having these guys around to chat during 'downtime'. You might see me in Mayo on your next trip.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Easy Ez, I meant the gringo compound in Poblado. My next trip to Medellin I will stay in EC and LM and maybe 1 or 2 nights in Ploblado to say hi to Boyd. I really like Boyd he makes the whole CB thing good. He's helpful, informative and generally an easy going good guy.
When I get there in Sept. (I hope) , It would be great to meet some gringos in the EC or LM. Hell yea. 1st and 2nd beers on me, haha But for now I need to "not dwell" on Medellin and continue my pursuit of speaking espanol. I started in Jan. 2011 and I am doing ok, I am confident I will have enough by September. Thanks to all for the great info and laughs.
Cheers
Hola chicos,
I'm thinking about going to Colombia for the first time around end of August. I'd like some feedback and suggestions as to which city would you Colombian experts advise for a first timer? I do speak basic Spanish and I'm in my early 30's and in decent shape. I'd like a city where I can get a good mix between non pros and prepagos. I'm all ears guys and very grateful to your guidance.
Gracias.
[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1289010]Hola chicos,
I'm thinking about going to Colombia for the first time around end of August. I'd like some feedback and suggestions as to which city would you Colombian experts advise for a first timer? I do speak basic Spanish and I'm in my early 30's and in decent shape. I'd like a city where I can get a good mix between non pros and prepagos. I'm all ears guys and very grateful to your guidance.
Gracias.[/QUOTE]Well, I'd say hit Cartagena on a Thursday night, enjoy the city for the weekend.
The beach, the casino, the old city, LDV, el central, etc.
Fly to Medellin on Monday and stay the rest of the week there. I'd recommend the Castillo for a first timer, so you're not spinning your wheels upon arrival. The staff and other guests will get ya going.
If you only want one city to visit, well then go to Medellin.
[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1289010]Hola chicos,
I'm thinking about going to Colombia for the first time around end of August. I'd like some feedback and suggestions as to which city would you Colombian experts advise for a first timer? I do speak basic Spanish and I'm in my early 30's and in decent shape. I'd like a city where I can get a good mix between non pros and prepagos. I'm all ears guys and very grateful to your guidance.
Gracias.[/QUOTE]Ricker took the words right out of my mouth. Hit Cartagena first then head on down to Medellin.
I have been going to Medellin for the last 6-7 years now and I will also be there mid to end of August. Much like you I know only basic spanish and in my early 30s. Send me a PM sometime.
Visa requirements will be eliminated for citizens of Pacific Alliance nations traveling to each other's countries, Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos announced Wednesday.
"[We are] eliminating visas for citizens of member countries of the Pacific Alliance. That means that Colombians are not going to have to have visas to travel to Chile or Peru or Mexico. That will be done in the coming months," Santos said at the end of the Fourth Summit of the Pacific Alliance, held this week in the Chilean city of Antofagasta.
[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1290613]Visa requirements will be eliminated for citizens of Pacific Alliance nations traveling to each other's countries, Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos announced Wednesday.
"[We are] eliminating visas for citizens of member countries of the Pacific Alliance. That means that Colombians are not going to have to have visas to travel to Chile or Peru or Mexico. That will be done in the coming months," Santos said at the end of the Fourth Summit of the Pacific Alliance, held this week in the Chilean city of Antofagasta.[/QUOTE]Good news. A step forward for Colombia. Slowly other countries will accept Colombians as they continue to combat the narcos & Bandas.
Yo Gents, I've been to Medellin twice now and plan on returning soon (September) but I would also like to see Cartagena and experience that city. That said, I'm not the most experienced traveler when it comes to booking flights. Is it best to do a RT trip to MDE and then a short RT to CTG, finishing up in MDE. Or is it most common to do one way fares to MDE (for 6 days) one way to CTG (4 days) and then back home from CTG to LAX. I know a lot of guys here are very experienced travelers and I would like to get their opinions if possible. Hope it's not a dumb question. The short flight from MDE to CTG seems very high ($300 RT). I guess if I want to visit 2 cities (in Colombia) it will add almost $500 to the cost of travel I / e air and taxi. Any info and advice would be great.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Socker; 1293787]Yo Gents, I've been to Medellin twice now and plan on returning soon (September) but I would also like to see Cartagena and experience that city. That said, I'm not the most experienced traveler when it comes to booking flights. Is it best to do a RT trip to MDE and then a short RT to CTG, finishing up in MDE. Or is it most common to do one way fares to MDE (for 6 days) one way to CTG (4 days) and then back home from CTG to LAX. I know a lot of guys here are very experienced travelers and I would like to get their opinions if possible. Hope it's not a dumb question. The short flight from MDE to CTG seems very high ($300 RT). I guess if I want to visit 2 cities (in Colombia) it will add almost $500 to the cost of travel I / e air and taxi. Any info and advice would be great.
Thanks[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.vivacolombia.co/[/url]
Plus round way taxi for extra airport but that goes without saying.
[QUOTE=Socker; 1293787]Yo Gents, I've been to Medellin twice now and plan on returning soon (September) but I would also like to see Cartagena and experience that city. That said, I'm not the most experienced traveler when it comes to booking flights. Is it best to do a RT trip to MDE and then a short RT to CTG, finishing up in MDE. Or is it most common to do one way fares to MDE (for 6 days) one way to CTG (4 days) and then back home from CTG to LAX. I know a lot of guys here are very experienced travelers and I would like to get their opinions if possible. Hope it's not a dumb question. The short flight from MDE to CTG seems very high ($300 RT). I guess if I want to visit 2 cities (in Colombia) it will add almost $500 to the cost of travel I / e air and taxi. Any info and advice would be great.
Thanks[/QUOTE]That is very high, ctg-lax seems more sensible if there is a direct flight ctg-lax, buying in sdvance helps a lot, check al the colombian airlines, Aero republica, avianca, satena, copa, Aires, go too their sites and check availability, buying in advance, dates and times make all the difference also if you have a trusted friend with a colombian credit card who can buy you a ticket this makes a big difference as well to avoid the "gringo surcharge" some airlines charge you more if you use an american credit card as oppose to a colombian generated credit card (I know its real bullshit) , also you can walk in to a travel agent and pay effectivo "cash"
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1293947]That is very high, ctg-lax seems more sensible if there is a direct flight ctg-lax, buying in sdvance helps a lot, check al the colombian airlines, Aero republica, avianca, satena, copa, Aires, go too their sites and check availability, buying in advance, dates and times make all the difference also if you have a trusted friend with a colombian credit card who can buy you a ticket this makes a big difference as well to avoid the "gringo surcharge" some airlines charge you more if you use an american credit card as oppose to a colombian generated credit card (I know its real bullshit) , also you can walk in to a travel agent and pay effectivo "cash"[/QUOTE]I just went to vivacolombia and the fare was $38 from CTG to MDE so I guess I am freaking STOKED again. Thanks MHL and Hillbilly for your valuable help. I will check the other airlines and pull the trigger soon for my next trip. You guys made my day.
Cheers,
S
[QUOTE=Socker; 1294259]I just went to vivacolombia and the fare was $38 from CTG to MDE so I guess I am freaking STOKED again. Thanks MHL and Hillbilly for your valuable help. I will check the other airlines and pull the trigger soon for my next trip. You guys made my day.
Cheers,
S[/QUOTE]Make sure you have a backup plan in case they cancel. Viva is a brand new airline and their very first flight out of Bogota to Buca had to be diverted for not having clearance to land or some shit like that, you get what you pay for sometimes. I would love to be able to fly from one city to another in Colombia for less than $100. But every time a company tries to do it they fall flat on their face.
[QUOTE=Socker; 1293787]Yo Gents, I've been to Medellin twice now and plan on returning soon (September) but I would also like to see Cartagena and experience that city. That said, I'm not the most experienced traveler when it comes to booking flights. Is it best to do a RT trip to MDE and then a short RT to CTG, finishing up in MDE. Or is it most common to do one way fares to MDE (for 6 days) one way to CTG (4 days) and then back home from CTG to LAX. I know a lot of guys here are very experienced travelers and I would like to get their opinions if possible. Hope it's not a dumb question. The short flight from MDE to CTG seems very high ($300 RT). I guess if I want to visit 2 cities (in Colombia) it will add almost $500 to the cost of travel I / e air and taxi. Any info and advice would be great.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Socker.
There are no direct flights LAX to CTG. The good news is that the COPA flight LAX to PTY is a great option. You can then enjoy a few nights in PTY (no layover fees) or continue on to CTG and MDE flying back to LAX all on COPA. I am not a Cartagena fan and usually just fly LAX to MDE on COPA. The layover in Panama is short.
Hey guys, what are your thoughts on this.
I am going to Colombia in December for a vacation. I have two weeks and I am going to spend a couple days in Bogota, a week in Medellin, and about 5 days in Santa Marta with a friend of mine before I fly to Costa Rica for 3 days to finish it off.
I want to monger in Medellin. I have been there three times before and know the lay of the land well enough. My spanish is good enough to talk with people about basic things and understand what they are saying to me. I wanted to rent an apartment for the week and just bring broads back, I won't be banging 3 a day more like 1-2. Do you think this is a good idea? I won't know any girls before I arrive. Is it awkward bringing them back to an apartment?
How dangerous is mongering there? I have walked around el centro, but never out at night by myself. I am 25 so I don't look like an easy old man to rob! Will it be easy to find pussy? What is the going rate for an hour? 100K? Any other advice?
Thanks guys! Really looking forward to this trip, Colombianas are so hot.
[QUOTE=Mr OReilly; 1296242]Hey guys, what are your thoughts on this.
I am going to Colombia in December for a vacation. I have two weeks and I am going to spend a couple days in Bogota, a week in Medellin, and about 5 days in Santa Marta with a friend of mine before I fly to Costa Rica for 3 days to finish it off.
I want to monger in Medellin. I have been there three times before and know the lay of the land well enough. My spanish is good enough to talk with people about basic things and understand what they are saying to me. I wanted to rent an apartment for the week and just bring broads back, I won't be banging 3 a day more like 1-2. Do you think this is a good idea? I won't know any girls before I arrive. Is it awkward bringing them back to an apartment?
How dangerous is mongering there? I have walked around el centro, but never out at night by myself. I am 25 so I don't look like an easy old man to rob! Will it be easy to find pussy? What is the going rate for an hour? 100K? Any other advice?
Thanks guys! Really looking forward to this trip, Colombianas are so hot.[/QUOTE]Yep, great plan except for the Costa Rica part haha.
Have fun!
And PS; Does it really matter if you're 25 or an old man, walking alone in el Central at night when some crazed dude shoves a pistol or knife at you?
Be smart too.
It's easy to find chicas in the daytime and make hookups for later.
[QUOTE=Mr OReilly; 1296242]Hey guys, what are your thoughts on this.
I am going to Colombia in December for a vacation. I have two weeks and I am going to spend a couple days in Bogota, a week in Medellin, and about 5 days in Santa Marta with a friend of mine before I fly to Costa Rica for 3 days to finish it off.
I want to monger in Medellin. I have been there three times before and know the lay of the land well enough. My spanish is good enough to talk with people about basic things and understand what they are saying to me. I wanted to rent an apartment for the week and just bring broads back, I won't be banging 3 a day more like 1-2. Do you think this is a good idea? I won't know any girls before I arrive. Is it awkward bringing them back to an apartment?
How dangerous is mongering there? I have walked around el centro, but never out at night by myself. I am 25 so I don't look like an easy old man to rob! How dangerous is mongering there? What is the going rate for an hour? 100K? Any other advice?
Thanks guys! Really looking forward to this trip, Colombianas are so hot.[/QUOTE]" I won't be banging 3 a day more like 1-2. Do you think this is a good idea?" I think its a good idea to bang as many as you possibly can! At 25 yrs old I'd go for 6 a day!"I won't know any girls before I arrive." I'd work Romance latina, Colombia cupid, facebook, ect. You could probably have two hundred contacts before you arrive!"Is it awkward bringing them back to an apartment?" Not at all, except the doorman sometimes raises an eyebrow and is a little jealous, also you might want to be careful that the ho you're bringing home isn't looking to drug or rob you? And sometimes the niebors give you stink eye for bringing hoes into their building."How dangerous is mongering there?" You never know? There have been very few reported cases of druggings and roberies, but. You never know when its your turn?"What is the going rate for an hour? 100K?" Depends on your negociating skills, and what the prepago thinks her stuff is worth, I've done as low as 50k for two hours and as much as 150k for an hour and a half."Any other advice?" Read the forum
Ok here goes!
My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour. As such I would be extremely grateful if you guys could help me out with advice on some points.
At first I was planning to head to the Philippines, I thought this would be a wise choice as I'm British, speak no Spanish and from what I gather they all speak English. As well as going for the ladies, I was hoping to check out some nice beaches, white sand and clear seas. Also very importantly I plan on going on this holiday by myself. Peace and relaxation away from everything and everyone while having lots of sex!
However, as I did more research, and found South America is an alternative to South East Asia for sex touring, I straight away thought about Colombia. In my opinion Latino women from the Caribbean and South America are the best looking in the world. So basically my head says Philippines, my heart, sorry my dick says Colombia lmao.
No matter how much I think otherwise I'm set on going to South America, those are the girls that really do it for me and where I will truly enjoy myself. So I have to ask a few questions, because I have gathered more information on the Philippines but find it harder to do so for Colombia and therefore find the trip more uncomfortable.
I'm planning on taking Spanish lessons just out of a general interest over here in the UK shortly (before I decided on this trip) so I'm hoping it can just 'get me by' as my plan is to take the trip in December. 6 months from now unless suggested otherwise by people here for better dates.
I would like to know where I can go where there is a balance of the best beaches, restaurants, hotels and of course pros! From my research South East Asia is much cheaper, so somewhere as close to the prices over there is helpful, as cheap as I can go while getting a balance of the things I'm looking for.
Of course going on my own, safety is a priority. I'm 24 tall and very athletic, can handle myself well and I'm streetwise. I know this can't help with a pistol pointed in my face but just wanted readers to be aware I'm young and not vulnerable. I'm a smart guy so I don't intend on taking silly risks like moving around early hours on my own for those who might warn me of the dangers. But of course for this to be taken into consideration, the safer resorts / cities would be good to know, again while keeping in mind the things I asked before. If someone can't tell me in detail, maybe they could at least point me to the right threads on here. It would be massively appreciated. Thanks for reading guys!
"I would like to know where I can go where there is a balance of the best beaches, restaurants, hotels and of course pros! From my research South East Asia is much cheaper, so somewhere as close to the prices over there is helpful, as cheap as I can go while getting a balance of the things I'm looking for.
If you really like the looks of Colombian girls and you live in the UK, for what you'd save in airfare, you're really better off going to Barcelona,
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut; 1297313]Ok here goes!
My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour. As such I would be extremely grateful if you guys could help me out with advice on some points.
At first I was planning to head to the Philippines, I thought this would be a wise choice as I'm British, speak no Spanish and from what I gather they all speak English. As well as going for the ladies, I was hoping to check out some nice beaches, white sand and clear seas. Also very importantly I plan on going on this holiday by myself. Peace and relaxation away from everything and everyone while having lots of sex![/QUOTE]My suggestion is Costa Rica. You can get by with minimal Spanish. Its fairly safe, you get the Latina girls and the beaches are nice on the West coast (Jaco etc.)
You can also consider the Dominican Republic, St. Martin or even Cuba. In Colombia the beach towns are Cartagena and Santa Marta, but you have the language problem.
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut; 1297313]Ok here goes!
My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour. As such I would be extremely grateful if you guys could help me out with advice on some points.
At first I was planning to head to the Philippines, I thought this would be a wise choice as I'm British, speak no Spanish and from what I gather they all speak English. As well as going for the ladies, I was hoping to check out some nice beaches, white sand and clear seas. Also very importantly I plan on going on this holiday by myself. Peace and relaxation away from everything and everyone while having lots of sex![/QUOTE]Well, you'd have a great time in Medellin, Colombia.
The Mansion would suit you well, however, there's obviously no white sand or beaches there for ya, just a pool surrounded by hot Colombianas.
Cartagena has a beach, but not really a nice one.
You will find plenty of hot Colombianas there, but you'll most likely pay the gringo prices due to language barrier and first timer naIvety.
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil has beautiful beaches and beautiful girls too.
If you read up on the varias guides that are written about the place, you can have a great time there too.
Can get expensive if you don't know what's up there, though the US dollar is getting stronger recently (not sure about Brit $).
See Bubba's guide in the Brazil section and read a poster named Sperto's guide / maps / posts.
Good luck, enjoy!
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut; 1297313]Ok here goes!
My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour.[/QUOTE]I have been all over Colombia, lived in the Caribbean and learned about mongering from visiting Colombianas in St Maarten (with a great beach also) and I have been to the Philippines once.
I would look at air connections and price from UK to different destinations.
I don't know if you will find both good beaches and mongering in the same location in the Philippines, but perhaps Thailand.
Colombia does not have good beaches and mongering in the same location.
Brazil and the Caribbean DO HAVE good beaches and mongering in the same location (check the threads for Rio, and St Maarten and Curacao in the Lesser Antilles thread). Give some thought to which time of year. Dec to May for the Caribbean, don't know what time is best for Rio but when I was there for Carnival in February everything was 3 times the price.
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[QUOTE=SwagMeOut; 1297313]Ok here goes!
My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour. As such I would be extremely grateful if you guys could help me out with advice on some points.
At first I was planning to head to the Philippines, I thought this would be a wise choice as I'm British, speak no Spanish and from what I gather they all speak English. As well as going for the ladies, I was hoping to check out some nice beaches, white sand and clear seas. Also very importantly I plan on going on this holiday by myself. Peace and relaxation away from everything and everyone while having lots of sex!
However, as I did more research, and found South America is an alternative to South East Asia for sex touring, I straight away thought about Colombia. In my opinion Latino women from the Caribbean and South America are the best looking in the world. So basically my head says Philippines, my heart, sorry my dick says Colombia lmao.
No matter how much I think otherwise I'm set on going to South America, those are the girls that really do it for me and where I will truly enjoy myself. So I have to ask a few questions, because I have gathered more information on the Philippines but find it harder to do so for Colombia and therefore find the trip more uncomfortable.
I'm planning on taking Spanish lessons just out of a general interest over here in the UK shortly (before I decided on this trip) so I'm hoping it can just 'get me by' as my plan is to take the trip in December. 6 months from now unless suggested otherwise by people here for better dates.
I would like to know where I can go where there is a balance of the best beaches, restaurants, hotels and of course pros! From my research South East Asia is much cheaper, so somewhere as close to the prices over there is helpful, as cheap as I can go while getting a balance of the things I'm looking for.
Of course going on my own, safety is a priority. I'm 24 tall and very athletic, can handle myself well and I'm streetwise. I know this can't help with a pistol pointed in my face but just wanted readers to be aware I'm young and not vulnerable. I'm a smart guy so I don't intend on taking silly risks like moving around early hours on my own for those who might warn me of the dangers. But of course for this to be taken into consideration, the safer resorts / cities would be good to know, again while keeping in mind the things I asked before. If someone can't tell me in detail, maybe they could at least point me to the right threads on here. It would be massively appreciated. Thanks for reading guys![/QUOTE]Swag. Have you thought about Phuket, Thailand? It would seem to have everything you're after .
Beautiful beaches, hot chicks, great hotels and food, and reasonable priced. I generally like Latinas.
Better than Asians, but the Thai women are very hot.
Medellin is a great place, but there's no beach. I'm with you, a beach really makes a vacation destination.
If you do go to Medellin, definitely stay at the Mansion or Castillo, where you'll have fellow mongers to help.
You out. Hanging out at either place is a nice way to spend a week or so.
Cartagena the beach is lousy and it's more expensive than MDE.
I don't think the beach is that great in Jaco (Costa Rica) either.
If you like Mulattas, Dominican Republic is great. Nice beaches, inexpensive, girls tend to be good
Performers.
Of course, if money is no object, just go to Rio. Though not as good as it used to be, it's still a magnificent destination.
On second thought, why not try all of the above, and then decide for yourself what's your favorite!
Firstly thank you to everyone that replied, honestly when you're a newb to something and post on a forum, I expected I'd probably get negative replies. So thanks for helping and the.
Info.
The price of return flights from the UK to the Philippines or Colombia is roughly the same cost around Ģ5-600 (800-900 US$)
Any country with hot latina women I would be happy with, (which has the hottest? Ha of course that's subjective but recommendations would be good!) just as cheap as possible with a nice beach etc as I mentioned before, Brazil sounds a good option I like the thought of that. I just didn't know they had a big mongering scene down there, as I say I'm very new to this, everything pointed to Thailand as number one in South East Asia or Colombia in South America. So I will defo check Brazil forum out.
Caribbean seems like it would be too expensive, I would like to visit one of the countries that has a weak currency. Why not live like a king for a bit.
Again Barcelona would be great for the women, and I mean flights from here in the UK are real cheap as low as (or lower) Ģ80 return ($125). Only problem is things are expensive out there on the Euro, for the women it's 60 Euro/Ģ50/$80 for what I believe is 30 minutes! No different from the UK, price wise I'd have to clarify time. But it's not like you can get them all night cheap.
The first thing I found about mongering in South America was Costa Rica, it's only that I heard Colombia was better in most ways from various research, unless you guys disagree? And yeh I heard the beach in Cartagena was bad, I think somewhere on here, so I guess from what I'm reading here beaches and babes are separate trips when visiting Colombia. Surprised because I thought being South America / Caribbean beach and seas they would be some of the best the world has to offer!
I know Cebu has good beaches and good mongering, is very cheap and they speak English, maybe as I'm going by myself and for the first time it would be wise to check that out first to get my wits about me. Then move on to the South American beauties.
Damn I love my latina women though LOL.
Last thing, I'm guessing going on these trips are your own is not a big problem, have many of you guys done the same without any issues?
Big thanks in advance
"Last thing, I'm guessing going on these trips are your own is not a big problem, have many of you guys done the same without any issues?
I usually travel alone, I have never encountered "big problems" But there is always the potencial for big problems, and there's a pretty good probability of some minor annoyances. Crappy food, lost cab drivers, hotels that arent quite up to the standards you saw on the webpage, beggars, glue sniffers, getting caught in traffic at rush hour, travelers diaria, and my alltime favorite is the occasional "stinky pussy"! LOL, Big potential problems are getting robbed, getting drugged, loosing your passport or injury from traffic accidents requiring hospitalization.
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut; 1297313]Ok here goes!
My first post, I joined yesterday. I've been doing a lot of research as I'm planning to do my first sex tour. As such I would be extremely grateful if you guys could help me out with advice on some points.
At first I was planning to head to the Philippines, I thought this would be a wise choice as I'm British, speak no Spanish and from what I gather they all speak English. As well as going for the ladies, I was hoping to check out some nice beaches, white sand and clear seas. Also very importantly I plan on going on this holiday by myself. Peace and relaxation away from everything and everyone while having lots of sex!
If someone can't tell me in detail, maybe they could at least point me to the right threads on here. It would be massively appreciated. Thanks for reading guys![/QUOTE]I agree with Zing. The best combination of beach and sex in the western hemisphere in my order of personal preference are Saint Martin, Rio, Aruba, Curaįao and Dominican Republic (in that order)
Costarica, Panama, Colombia and Argentina have beaches and sex but you have to take sex to the nicer beach, which is not easy to do if you don't speak Spanish.
Personally I think all city beaches are dirty and nasty, you want good beaches you have to go way off the beaten path; that means no action and BYOP.
When a Colombian wants a beach he goes to Turbo or Gorgona La Guajira or San Andres etc, when he wants to get laid he goes to Medellin or Pereira :P
You were humble, didn't make ridiculous sexual prowess claims, ask about Help disco in Rio and had done at least some research. So you didn't get flamed, this time, LOL.
You really can't go wrong with Cebu, Colombia or a myriad of other destinations. Manila and Cebu are the two best destinations in the Phillipines and on a first visit I wouldn't travel any farther south than Cebu as the southern islands are where the terrorists congregate. Most Philipinos speak English well, are very friendly even though they often work 6 days a week for very low wages and on a contract basis which means they can lose their job anytime for any reason, yet they always seem to be smiling. Cebu is smaller and more chill than Manila as the main industry there is tourism. Cebuanas are known as some of the most beautiful women in the Phillipines and as in most Asian cultures they're very service oriented to your needs. Personally find Filipino women to be darker skinned, a little more curvy (prob. Due to the Spanish imperialism) and therefore more attractive than other Asian women but humbly YMMV. Filipinos really like foriegners and basically worship westerners so if you're 24, tall, respectful, friendly, and as Miami Heat likes to say "have a little confidence with women in your own country" than you will be suddenly transformed into a rock star the minute you land in Cebu. The strip clubs are fine but you are often (not always) beseiged by 5. 10 women when you walk thru the door. My preference was the KTV clubs which are a little more expensive but they're very chill and the lineup is often varied & outstanding! Some KTV clubs offer onsite rooms & some do not. The KTVs I visited were all TLN. But know the women often have a mysterious (fake) crisis in the middle of the night & must rush home which is what I prefer anyway. If you choose Cebu. You need to read or PM a guy who's ISG name is Mortman. Coincidentally, he's British, he's also the resident Cebu expert and his posts are knowledgeable, extremely well written and very dry, British funny. Also if you know how to handle yourself with women online than I would recommend joining Filipino Cupid but be warned the Phillipines is a very poor country & your computer will seize up or blow up from all the attention you will receive. Also 90% of the profiles are fake. So you must see them on Messenger or Skype right away or delete them. Trust me if no video chat most likely you're chatting with a 69 year old grandma or a ladyboy. Even if the girl is real, many will ask you to send money within minutes or even seconds. Never send money and move on. When you do connect with a beautiful Filipina online be aware they will want to pick you up at the airport, sink their hooks in and stay with you the whole trip as you're their meal ticket. So first trip don't meet at the airport just say you have made some other plans. With online women always have back up plans as the women are often unrelieable. Have experience so I met a hot. 25 yr old brand model online and she and her sisters picked me up at the airport and 90 minutes later she and I were in my room at the Radisson getting more acquainted. I was honest with her about my intentions and never "lead her on" or any other woman I meet online. But as fate would have it the very next day an incredibly douchy 39 yr old American guy shows up in Cebu to meet her 19 yr old sister. So against my better judgement we decide to meet up with them and evidently he's making the sister all kinds of promises and they're profoundly in love within the first 12 hours of meeting. So we meet them for an early lunch and they're both wearing matching T shirts that say " Love Team"! I have to say I almost laughed and puked in the same moment! (And yes, I saved a picture). So naturally after this display of D'bagggery my girl starts pressuring me so after the 3rd day I had to cut her loose. Overall the Phillipines is a great country but 23 hours on a plane from the states & a 12-13 hour time difference is brutal so now I focus on latinas in Central and S. America.
Colombia is an amazing country with a diversity of hot latinas & the upside is the passionate women and the downside is the passionate women. All latinas will say they don't like drama. But guess what always comes next? Thankfully Colombia is not yet overrun with tourists but this also means not many Colombians speak English. So if you're new to traveling, don't speak Spanish very well & not sure how to handle an occasionally strong tempered latina than maybe Colombia is not best for your first rodeo. However there is the Medellin Mansion / Casa Blanca / Hotel Medellin Plaza or whatever Aussi Greg is calling it these days, LOL. It's well run, has plenty of attractive visitors & even a pool so it's good for a newbie to get his feet or so to speak. Also nearby is Panama City, Panama and it's a great, bustling city with much to do & more people speak English, the dollar is an accepted currency and it's full of hot Colombianas. However for a first timer who's interested in latinas, my best recommendation is the Hotel Del Rey is San Jose, Costa Rica. There are women avail. 24/7 but primetime is 10 pm and later. At night there's a great variety of latinas (70 to 100 Nicas, Ticas, Domincans & Colombians) mostly 6's & 7's who are eager to make your acquaintance. Also Jaco beach on the Pacific coast of C. R. Gives you surf, sun and latinas at various locations esp. The Beatle bar. However the Beatle bar does not keep the women in check so you will be constantly approached which wears thin quickly. Jaco is a good town but not the best of beaches but you can travel 5 mintues down the road to Playa Hermosa for a much better beach and there's a cool hotel and bar called Backyard bar. Many people feel San Jose & the Del Ray is very touristy & has mechanical women but IMHO with all women it comes down to your confidence & skill level especially in detecting & avoiding B. S. And letting the woman know in an amiable & quietly confident way that you're running the show, siempre.
Learn Espanol, be humble, friendly and repsectful of other cultures, master your confidence level interacting with women and you're bound to have some great experiences. Lastly, be aware you're only 24 and after your first successful trip it will undoubtedly change the way you think about women and traditional dating forever, LOL. Best of luck.
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut; 1297667]Firstly thank you to everyone that replied, honestly when you're a newb to something and post on a forum, I expected I'd probably get negative replies. So thanks for helping and the.
Info.
The price of return flights from the UK to the Philippines or Colombia is roughly the same cost around Ģ5-600 (800-900 US$)
Any country with hot latina women I would be happy with, (which has the hottest? Ha of course that's subjective but recommendations would be good!) just as cheap as possible with a nice beach etc as I mentioned before, Brazil sounds a good option I like the thought of that. I just didn't know they had a big mongering scene down there, as I say I'm very new to this, everything pointed to Thailand as number one in South East Asia or Colombia in South America. So I will defo check Brazil forum out.
Caribbean seems like it would be too expensive, I would like to visit one of the countries that has a weak currency. Why not live like a king for a bit.
Again Barcelona would be great for the women, and I mean flights from here in the UK are real cheap as low as (or lower) Ģ80 return ($125). Only problem is things are expensive out there on the Euro, for the women it's 60 Euro/Ģ50/$80 for what I believe is 30 minutes! No different from the UK, price wise I'd have to clarify time. But it's not like you can get them all night cheap.
The first thing I found about mongering in South America was Costa Rica, it's only that I heard Colombia was better in most ways from various research, unless you guys disagree? And yeh I heard the beach in Cartagena was bad, I think somewhere on here, so I guess from what I'm reading here beaches and babes are separate trips when visiting Colombia. Surprised because I thought being South America / Caribbean beach and seas they would be some of the best the world has to offer!
I know Cebu has good beaches and good mongering, is very cheap and they speak English, maybe as I'm going by myself and for the first time it would be wise to check that out first to get my wits about me. Then move on to the South American beauties.
Damn I love my latina women though LOL.
Last thing, I'm guessing going on these trips are your own is not a big problem, have many of you guys done the same without any issues?
Big thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ronin1; 1298489]You were humble, didn't make ridiculous sexual prowess claims, ask about Help disco in Rio and had done at least some research. So you didn't get flamed, this time, LOL.
You really can't go wrong with Cebu, Colombia or a myriad of other destinations. Manila and Cebu are the two best destinations in the Phillipines and on a first visit I wouldn't travel any farther south than Cebu as the southern islands are where the terrorists congregate. Most Philipinos speak English well, are very friendly even though they often work 6 days a week for very low wages and on a contract basis which means they can lose their job anytime for any reason, yet they always seem to be smiling. Cebu is smaller and more chill than Manila as the main industry there is tourism. Cebuanas are known as some of the most beautiful women in the Phillipines and as in most Asian cultures they're very service oriented to your needs. Personally find Filipino women to be darker skinned, a little more curvy (prob. Due to the Spanish imperialism) and therefore more attractive than other Asian women but humbly YMMV. Filipinos really like foriegners and basically worship westerners so if you're 24, tall, respectful, friendly, and as Miami Heat likes to say "have a little confidence with women in your own country" than you will be suddenly transformed into a rock star the minute you land in Cebu. The strip clubs are fine but you are often (not always) beseiged by 5. 10 women when you walk thru the door. My preference was the KTV clubs which are a little more expensive but they're very chill and the lineup is often varied & outstanding! Some KTV clubs offer onsite rooms & some do not. The KTVs I visited were all TLN. But know the women often have a mysterious (fake) crisis in the middle of the night & must rush home which is what I prefer anyway. If you choose Cebu. You need to read or PM a guy who's ISG name is Mortman. Coincidentally, he's British, he's also the resident Cebu expert and his posts are knowledgeable, extremely well written and very dry, British funny. Also if you know how to handle yourself with women online than I would recommend joining Filipino Cupid but be warned the Phillipines is a very poor country & your computer will seize up or blow up from all the attention you will receive. Also 90% of the profiles are fake. So you must see them on Messenger or Skype right away or delete them. Trust me if no video chat most likely you're chatting with a 69 year old grandma or a ladyboy. Even if the girl is real, many will ask you to send money within minutes or even seconds. Never send money and move on. When you do connect with a beautiful Filipina online be aware they will want to pick you up at the airport, sink their hooks in and stay with you the whole trip as you're their meal ticket. So first trip don't meet at the airport just say you have made some other plans. With online women always have back up plans as the women are often unrelieable. Have experience so I met a hot. 25 yr old brand model online and she and her sisters picked me up at the airport and 90 minutes later she and I were in my room at the Radisson getting more acquainted. I was honest with her about my intentions and never "lead her on" or any other woman I meet online. But as fate would have it the very next day an incredibly douchy 39 yr old American guy shows up in Cebu to meet her 19 yr old sister. So against my better judgement we decide to meet up with them and evidently he's making the sister all kinds of promises and they're profoundly in love within the first 12 hours of meeting. So we meet them for an early lunch and they're both wearing matching T shirts that say " Love Team"! I have to say I almost laughed and puked in the same moment! (And yes, I saved a picture). So naturally after this display of D'bagggery my girl starts pressuring me so after the 3rd day I had to cut her loose. Overall the Phillipines is a great country but 23 hours on a plane from the states & a 12-13 hour time difference is brutal so now I focus on latinas in Central and S. America.
Colombia is an amazing country with a diversity of hot latinas & the upside is the passionate women and the downside is the passionate women. All latinas will say they don't like drama. But guess what always comes next? Thankfully Colombia is not yet overrun with tourists but this also means not many Colombians speak English. So if you're new to traveling, don't speak Spanish very well & not sure how to handle an occasionally strong tempered latina than maybe Colombia is not best for your first rodeo. However there is the Medellin Mansion / Casa Blanca / Hotel Medellin Plaza or whatever Aussi Greg is calling it these days, LOL. It's well run, has plenty of attractive visitors & even a pool so it's good for a newbie to get his feet or so to speak. Also nearby is Panama City, Panama and it's a great, bustling city with much to do & more people speak English, the dollar is an accepted currency and it's full of hot Colombianas. However for a first timer who's interested in latinas, my best recommendation is the Hotel Del Rey is San Jose, Costa Rica. There are women avail. 24/7 but primetime is 10 pm and later. At night there's a great variety of latinas (70 to 100 Nicas, Ticas, Domincans & Colombians) mostly 6's & 7's who are eager to make your acquaintance. Also Jaco beach on the Pacific coast of C. R. Gives you surf, sun and latinas at various locations esp. The Beatle bar. However the Beatle bar does not keep the women in check so you will be constantly approached which wears thin quickly. Jaco is a good town but not the best of beaches but you can travel 5 mintues down the road to Playa Hermosa for a much better beach and there's a cool hotel and bar called Backyard bar. Many people feel San Jose & the Del Ray is very touristy & has mechanical women but IMHO with all women it comes down to your confidence & skill level especially in detecting & avoiding B. S. And letting the woman know in an amiable & quietly confident way that you're running the show, siempre.
Learn Espanol, be humble, friendly and repsectful of other cultures, master your confidence level interacting with women and you're bound to have some great experiences. Lastly, be aware you're only 24 and after your first successful trip it will undoubtedly change the way you think about women and traditional dating forever, LOL. Best of luck.[/QUOTE]Wow. Thank you, great post and very informative read. Very well written and posts like these not only make the plan to travel more comfortable, it sure as hell makes it more exciting!
I think the line, 'treated like a rock star' kind of did it for me ha. Well just as humbly, here with women I have a ton of confidence, I go for some very attractive girls, imo I believe I'm a very good looking guy, or so I'm told, again I mention only because it's relevant to what you said.
Only thing is free sex costs too much. LOL. Plus I'm pretty damn tired of the women over here.
I'm always polite and charming, and of course when there is no emotional attachment involved I couldn't see myself being in any drama with the women of the Philippines, hopefully. Latina women are hot blooded as you mention so who knows LOL.
So I will take your word for everything you said, I've only been abroad a couple of times anyway so I'm sure I will enjoy the experience as I have little to compare it to. Everywhere says the food over there is bad but I'm guessing some joints got to cook something good!
Have to say the 'Love Team' story sounds hilarious, oh boy some guys hahaha. I don't think I'll pre meet anyone online, as you say they will have time to plan for me, who knows what their motive could be, plus once I get there, all the pussy will be there to choose why tease myself?
Costa Rica does sound pretty tempting, as you say there are various women from different cultures there, originally that is the place I heard, it's only that I hear Colombia is better in many ways, but clearly it seems the beaches and the babes for sale are in different locations, from your post it seems they are in the same spot in Costa Rica, who also speak more english.
Hey if I struggle there's always my iphone app to translate ha.
Philippines Is 7 hours ahead, Colombia 6 hours behind so I guess it evens out, my sleeping pattern is always f'd up anyway LOL.
I guess what it comes down to then is what everything comes down to. MONEY!
I'll have to choose where I'll get more bang for my buck (literally) and what the country has to offer other than women, better beaches, cheaper hotels and living, better weather (going in November / December) better food and more amenities (any help?)
The decison only gets harder. But that's what makes it all the more fun!
Thanks
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1298351]Personally I think all city beaches are dirty and nasty, you want good beaches you have to go way off the beaten path; that means no action and BYOP.
When a Colombian wants a beach he goes to Turbo or Gorgona La Guajira or San Andres etc, when he wants to get laid he goes to Medellin or Pereira :P[/QUOTE]Are you serious about [B]Pereira[/B]? (I am not being sarcastic). Most reports in the "other areas" section seem to suggest that it is an industrial dump with little or no action. Is that not true?
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1298659]Are you serious about [B]Pereira[/B]? (I am not being sarcastic). Most reports in the "other areas" section seem to suggest that it is an industrial dump with little or no action. Is that not true?[/QUOTE]I agree. I've been to Pereira 5Xs, but not for mongering purposes. There's not a lot of action there, and what there is isn't that great compared to Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena or Cali. The chicas just can't compare, not as good looking.
I'm not sure its an industrial dump, it doesn't seem polluted. It is safe to walk around and has a few good eateries. I go there because its the gateway to the hot spring spas in Santa Rosa de Cabal and not for the sexo.
Girls from Pereira,"Pereiranas" though not know to be the most beautiful in Colombia for the most part, you CAN find many hotties from there just like you can find in ANY city, granted you put in your leg work either by going there and meeting them or by social networking or just plain ole luck like in my case!
One of the hottest girls I'm banging at this moment is from Pereira. She's about 5'8 and has red hair and green eyes, natural see-cups, flat stomach. Top 5 hottest for me ever! Met her in el parque de caņas in Cali during the holidays while she was there visiting family.
There's an ole saying that is well know through out Colombia, Pereiranas are known to be the easiest lays in all of Colombia. And the saying goes as follows.
"A las Pereiranas se les dice que se sienten why se acuestan!" Which translated means you ask a girl from Pereira to have a seat? And she lies down!
Jajajajjajajaja LOL
The fame of Pereira goes back to 1948, and the beginning of the period in Colombian history known as "La Violencia". The economy in that part of the country because of the civil strife was almost at a standstill, and all the textile plants in Pereira shut down, leaving many many women out of work. So they started founding brothels and working as hos. The reputation stands to this day. It's a small city and there's certainly a lot more going on in Medellin but if you know the ins and outs it doesn't disappoint And it's the cleanest city in all of Colombia, hands down. Dirty would be Cali from what I hear, although I haven't made it there yet.
Thank you for all the clarifications on Pereira. I had couple of fantastic experience from girls from Pereira. One in SXM and one in CTG. Combined with my limited personal experience and based on what I read in other parts of the forum, I came away with the impressions there may be a few cute ones but they leave and work some place else. The hot ones get noticed in small towns which makes it harder for them to work. The mediocre and ugly ones may not care that much so they stay local and work. .
Well, I plan to be there later in the year and I will report back. Please post or send a PM if you guys know how I can maximize my time and effort.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1298351]Personally I think all city beaches are dirty and nasty, you want good beaches you have to go way off the beaten path; that means no action and BYOP.
When a Colombian wants a beach he goes to Turbo or Gorgona La Guajira or San Andres etc, when he wants to get laid he goes to Medellin or Pereira :P[/QUOTE]Just curious if you meant Tolu instead of Turbo. The nearby Playa Blanca beach at San Antero rated as one of the top in Colombia by Colombians. I spent several days there last week and saw no other gringos.
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No, I wasn't kidding about the lengths that some guys will go to. So please enjoy this photo as much as I have, LOL.
However, there are just somethings money can't buy: traveling 24 hours and 8, 400 miles on a plane each way. 1 Plane ticket, cost = $1, 200. Experiencing massivie jet lag and renting a hotel room in Cebu for 5 nights, cost = $600. The cost of matching "Love Team" Tshirts = PRICELESS!
[QUOTE=SwagMeOut; 1298628]Wow. Thank you, great post and very informative read. Very well written and posts like these not only make the plan to travel more comfortable, it sure as hell makes it more exciting!
I think the line, 'treated like a rock star' kind of did it for me ha. Well just as humbly, here with women I have a ton of confidence, I go for some very attractive girls, imo I believe I'm a very good looking guy, or so I'm told, again I mention only because it's relevant to what you said.
Only thing is free sex costs too much. LOL. Plus I'm pretty damn tired of the women over here.
I'm always polite and charming, and of course when there is no emotional attachment involved I couldn't see myself being in any drama with the women of the Philippines, hopefully. Latina women are hot blooded as you mention so who knows LOL.
So I will take your word for everything you said, I've only been abroad a couple of times anyway so I'm sure I will enjoy the experience as I have little to compare it to. Everywhere says the food over there is bad but I'm guessing some joints got to cook something good!
Have to say the 'Love Team' story sounds hilarious, oh boy some guys hahaha. I don't think I'll pre meet anyone online, as you say they will have time to plan for me, who knows what their motive could be, plus once I get there, all the pussy will be there to choose why tease myself?
Costa Rica does sound pretty tempting, as you say there are various women from different cultures there, originally that is the place I heard, it's only that I hear Colombia is better in many ways, but clearly it seems the beaches and the babes for sale are in different locations, from your post it seems they are in the same spot in Costa Rica, who also speak more english.
Hey if I struggle there's always my iphone app to translate ha.
Philippines Is 7 hours ahead, Colombia 6 hours behind so I guess it evens out, my sleeping pattern is always f'd up anyway LOL.
I guess what it comes down to then is what everything comes down to. MONEY!
I'll have to choose where I'll get more bang for my buck (literally) and what the country has to offer other than women, better beaches, cheaper hotels and living, better weather (going in November / December) better food and more amenities (any help?)
The decison only gets harder. But that's what makes it all the more fun!
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ronin1; 1301371]No, I wasn't kidding about the lengths that some guys will go to. So please enjoy this photo as much as I have, LOL.
However, there are just somethings money can't buy: traveling 24 hours and 8, 400 miles on a plane each way. 1 Plane ticket, cost = $1, 200. Experiencing massivie jet lag and renting a hotel room in Cebu for 5 nights, cost = $600. The cost of matching "Love Team" Tshirts = PRICELESS![/QUOTE]Love the foto!
It's all about the fun, the fantasy and the illusion at times.
If the guy is enjoying life, good for him!
Just don't get married or anything silly like that puhleeese haha. :)
Ricker,
Of course you're right, whatever makes you happy. And it's always easier to judge another person with a laser like prescision instead of oneself. This guy did seem to be having fun and so I sincerely hope they're a very happy couple (though I have some real doubts). My concern, was they had just met for first time in person and he was already making her a lot of promises about moving her to the US, marrying her, providing her with plastic surgery. Basically promising her the works. So if he just made her a lot of empty promises so he could have a young, attractive Filipina girlfriend for a week than I have no respect for a guy like that.
Though I don't know you personally, I've frequently read and enjoyed your posts on the Colombian forum for the past couple of years. You always seem to be the voice of reason and respect for other people and especially the mujeres / chicas which I think is very cool. Also I just read and didn't post on here for a couple years partly because I could never decide if my sentiments were more closely aligned with your's or someone like Miami Heat. And, really, does the Colombian forum need two Miami Heat's setting some of the the'bags and braggarts on here straight? Just kidding, LOL. IMHO you and MHL are kind of like the good cop / bad cop on the Colombia forum so hopefully I fall somewhere in between. One minor comment I would disagree with you, though, is the whole idea of spending time with chicas is a fantasy or an illusion. With all respect, to me there is never more of an expectation of anything more from any woman than whatever it is I agreed to in the beginning. Just my 4 cents.
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1301409]Love the foto!
It's all about the fun, the fantasy and the illusion at times.
If the guy is enjoying life, good for him!
Just don't get married or anything silly like that puhleeese haha. .[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ronin1; 1301462]Ricker,
... Though I don't know you personally, I've frequently read and enjoyed your posts on the Colombian forum for the past couple of years. You always seem to be the voice of reason and respect for other people and especially the mujeres / chicas which I think is very cool.
... You and MHL are kind of like the good cop / bad cop on the Colombia forum so hopefully I fall somewhere in between.
... One minor comment I would disagree with you, though, is the whole idea of spending time with chicas is a fantasy or an illusion. With all respect, to me there is never more of an expectation of anything more from any woman than whatever it is I agreed to in the beginning. Just my 4 cents.[/QUOTE]First of all, I'm way better looking than Miami Heat jeje. :)
Secondly, of course you're paying for agreed service with a PFP chica. That's basic, however, there are times when you hook up with a girl, especially for a longer period of time, that there is a sort of fantasy and love illusion involved.
Take your "Love Team" guy for example.
Total fantasy/illusion.
Thanks for the Kudos by the way.
Take care.
[QUOTE=Ricker;1301921]First of all, I'm way better looking than Miami Heat jeje. :)[/QUOTE]Jajjjajajajaja, uffff, good one! LOL.
No seriously if you see this cool cat Ricker, the women fall out of the sky like an AXE commercial he's so pretty!
But on a serious note I'm still on the waiting list to hang out with this guy just in the hopes of trying to pick up some of his table scrap women! One day si dios quire, one day! .
I called Chase bank to let them know I will be visiting Colombia so my card won't be cut off. The lady operator told me that because of some "government restrictions" for Colombia my card may not work in all locations. Just wondering has anyone had any issues using a chase debit / credit card?
Thanks.
AMB
Yes I also use Chase Bank credit / debit card quite regularly in many foriegn countries, including Colombia, without encountering any problems. Also believe you receive the best exchange rate using an ATM. Scotia Banks are my favorite as they seem to allow the highest withdrawal amounts and offer (like many ATMs) the option of USD or the local currency and english or espanol. If you haven't ever used your credit or debit cards in other countries it's a very good idea to call ahead and let Cust. Service know "not" to put a hold on your account.
The only problems I've encountered in traveling with debit cards is really self induced. The 1st problem is many of the ATMs in the countries I've visited have the older style machine where you insert the card and the machine holds onto it instead of simply swiping the card. So after a couple of cerveza's and much enthusiasm to get back into whatever action I've forgotten, once or twice, to wait until the machine spits the card back out and so the machine times out and swallows the card. Also, after many trips to the HDR in San Jose and losing money at the blackjack tables I've found their USD ATM, in the main lobby, never has any dollars to dispense. I wonder why, LOL?
[QUOTE=Amb832; 1302105]I called Chase bank to let them know I will be visiting Colombia so my card won't be cut off. The lady operator told me that because of some "government restrictions" for Colombia my card may not work in all locations. Just wondering has anyone had any issues using a chase debit / credit card?
Thanks.
AMB[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amb832; 1302105]I called Chase bank to let them know I will be visiting Colombia so my card won't be cut off. The lady operator told me that because of some "government restrictions" for Colombia my card may not work in all locations. Just wondering has anyone had any issues using a chase debit / credit card?
Thanks.
AMB[/QUOTE]I have a Chase card and have used it many times in Colombia without any problems but now I rarely use a card. I used to withdraw my money as needed from ATM's and brought with me some cash as as a backup, now I do the opposite. I bring all my expected spending money in cash and separate it into three locations once my boots are on the ground, the safe, locked in my luggage and an obscure location within my room. The reason for not using the cards very often is too many reports of card cloning and too many people getting robbed after going to an ATM in Colombia. I am not suggesting that you do this, just stating what I do. The most important thing is not to rely on just one card for your cash needs, always bring enough cash to get you by for a few days and get you home in case your cards don't work or get stolen as you will not be able to get them replaced overnight like you could in the USA.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1302034]But on a serious note I'm still on the waiting list to hang out with this guy just in the hopes of trying to pick up some of his table scrap women! One day si dios quire, one day! .[/QUOTE]Hey Heat, I think it's Brazil where you want to acompaņarme someday.
I think you've got Colombia down, however, Brazil is a new world, most especially away from the touristy areas.
You've probably got some amigos (as) Brasileiros there in Miami, practice some Portuguese if you get the chance.
Ate logo meu amigo, jeje.
[QUOTE=Amb832;1302105]The lady operator told me that because of some "government restrictions" for Colombia my card may not work in all locations.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure about any "government restrictions," but some ATM will only work with secure chip credit cards. I had this problem at an ATM in Bogota. My credit card was rejected by the ATM. I began to panic until I noticed a small sign on the ATM. Since my Spanish isn't all that great, the sign used the word "chip" so it dawned on me that it had to refer to a secure chip credit card. I walked around until I found another bank ATM and my credit card worked.
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1302577]Hey Heat, I think it's Brazil where you want to acompaņarme someday.
I think you've got Colombia down, however, Brazil is a new world, most especially away from the touristy areas.
You've probably got some amigos (as) Brasileiros there in Miami, practice some Portuguese if you get the chance.
Ate logo meu amigo, jeje.[/QUOTE]I have had Colombia down for a while bro, I'm not really into to the Brasileiras bro but more due to the fact. I'm not a big fan of traveling ling distances just to monger. I know its a whole new can of never endingunexplored worms and I know I will enjoy it to the fullest, just maybe not yet? But in the future?
I do have my Brazilian friends here and they have pushed me to go and even offered my places to stay in Rio, Sao Paolo and Recife!
As far as Portuguese goes, common bro I already have the important lingo. Gustoso, carallo, buseta, garotas. 4x4, boom boom, thats enough for now? No? Jejejejejeje LOL
Ronin, what kind of diet are you on to get the 6pack. Do you starve yourself or just workout alot.
Helpless,
A) I don't know you and don't understand your question? So it's probably fair to assume you didn't bother to read the story and / or related comments or you can't read and are only able to mentally manage looking at pictures. In either case, there's special help for people like you. Just try to keep your med's on schedule and eat a lot of soft foods.
B) Are you gay? Because that's about the fagg-iest question I've ever seen on a heterosexual forum thread. Yeah, it's prety much cowardly dikwads like you who bravely sit behind a computer keyboard and talk smack about other people (for no good reason) is partly the reason why I had never before had posted on this forum for the past couple of years. So who the fuk are you? Probably some fat azz, acne-faced dweeb who never had a girlfriend and never travels farther than from his mom's refrigerator and back to his mom's basement (where you keep your computer and an ample supply of puddin' cups, crayons and naked pictures of your mom and male cousins). So I get it now, you have no life and nothing valuable to offer a heterosexual forum so you make what only you think are witty comebacks to other poster's comments. Unfortunately, only to prove to the whole world wide web what an ignorant, worthless D' bag you really are.
[QUOTE=HelpRules;1303013]Ronin, what kind of diet are you on to get the 6pack. Do you starve yourself or just workout alot.[/QUOTE]
Yo Gents, My next trip to Medellin is for Sept. And plan on staying a few days at HPM but would also like to venture out into the real Medellin. I am interested in staying in El Centro and La Mayorista areas because I was impressed w / the talent in those 2 areas and I want more ethnic action I / e street venders, strip clubs and general grittiness the Poblado area lacks. I have heard a few good things about, The Nutibara Hotel in El Centro and the, Central Plaza in La Mayorista, also Hotel Alcaravan sounds OK. Any advice on 3 star accommodations in these areas of Medellin? It would be a treat to pay under $50 per night in a girl-friendly hotel. Thanks and cheers. S
[QUOTE=Ronin1; 1303292]Helpless,
A) I don't know you and don't understand your question? So it's probably fair to assume you didn't bother to read the story and / or related comments or you can't read and are only able to mentally manage looking at pictures. In either case, there's special help for people like you. Just try to keep your med's on schedule and eat a lot of soft foods.
B) Are you gay? Because that's about the fagg-iest question I've ever seen on a heterosexual forum thread. Yeah, it's prety much cowardly dikwads like you who bravely sit behind a computer keyboard and talk smack about other people (for no good reason) is partly the reason why I had never before had posted on this forum for the past couple of years. So who the fuk are you? Probably some fat azz, acne-faced dweeb who never had a girlfriend and never travels farther than from his mom's refrigerator and back to his mom's basement (where you keep your computer and an ample supply of puddin' cups, crayons and naked pictures of your mom and male cousins). So I get it now, you have no life and nothing valuable to offer a heterosexual forum so you make what only you think are witty comebacks to other poster's comments. Unfortunately, only to prove to the whole world wide web what an ignorant, worthless D' bag you really are.[/QUOTE]Ronini don't even understand his post, it makes no sense. Weird guy that helpless.
[QUOTE=Socker;1303308]Yo Gents, My next trip to Medellin is for Sept. And plan on staying a few days at HPM but would also like to venture out into the real Medellin. I am interested in staying in El Centro and La Mayorista areas because I was impressed w / the talent in those 2 areas and I want more ethnic action I / e street venders, strip clubs and general grittiness the Poblado area lacks. I have heard a few good things about, The Nutibara Hotel in El Centro and the, Central Plaza in La Mayorista, also Hotel Alcaravan sounds OK. Any advice on 3 star accommodations in these areas of Medellin? It would be a treat to pay under $50 per night in a girl-friendly hotel. Thanks and cheers. S[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the Nutibara Hotel a few times. Always liked the place. Good staff, friendly people. Nothing fancy for a 3 star hotel for around $60. There's a pool, sauna, and steam room. This is a faded glory hotel that was in its prime in the 40s and 50s in the old days.
But I love the location, right in the middle of Medellin.
The Central Plaza is a little far from the actions. Macedonia Plaza is a good hotel just one block away from the main street, quiet but close enough to the actions. BTW there are some good (small) restaurants close to the supermarkets in the Mayorista market area.
[QUOTE=Socker;1303308]Yo Gents, My next trip to Medellin is for Sept. And plan on staying a few days at HPM but would also like to venture out into the real Medellin. I am interested in staying in El Centro and La Mayorista areas because I was impressed w / the talent in those 2 areas and I want more ethnic action I / e street venders, strip clubs and general grittiness the Poblado area lacks. I have heard a few good things about, The Nutibara Hotel in El Centro and the, Central Plaza in La Mayorista, also Hotel Alcaravan sounds OK. Any advice on 3 star accommodations in these areas of Medellin? It would be a treat to pay under $50 per night in a girl-friendly hotel. Thanks and cheers. S[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1303955]The Central Plaza is a little far from the actions. Macedonia Plaza is a good hotel just one block away from the main street, quiet but close enough to the actions. BTW there are some good (small) restaurants close to the supermarkets in the Mayorista market area.[/QUOTE]thanks guys for the info. My only visit to La Mayorista was at night w / a buddy. At first it was a little intimidating but I quickly acclimated. The scene there seemed extremely small (the one block of bars and hotels) and at night I could not see much of the area. This next trip I will be on my own so I want to make sure I understand the pros and cons of the area. Is there anything to do (there) in the daytime. I assume there are ladies hanging around during the day It did not look like a place one could freely walk around at night. Is it safe to walk to and from the Metro at or to and from your hotel alone at night? I am street smart and just curious about what to expect.
I have also heard that El Centro can be dangerous at night so I'm wondering about the area between The Nutibara Hotel and the strip clubs. Should I cab it or walk it? From memory seems like a short distance.
Thanks again guys.
[QUOTE=Socker; 1304003]I have also heard that El Centro can be dangerous at night so I'm wondering about the area between The Nutibara Hotel and the strip clubs. Should I cab it or walk it? From memory seems like a short distance.
Thanks again guys.[/QUOTE]I have always walked that distance, from the hotel to the strip clubs. Its the equivalent of a block and a half. Yes, at night there are people laying on the sidewalks, beggars, street people and the homeless; but I was never bothered by them. I didn't find it to be that dangerous walking those gritty street.
Only a few druggies in Mayo in the daytime. There is nothing to do there. If you stay in Mayo, you would have to ride on metro for 20minutes to go to El Centro for casas (plus 10-15 minutes walk from hotel to Ayura station) in the day time. Instead, you may want to stay in El Centro and have fun at casas, strip clubs and street scenes in the daytime. In the night time, metro to Mayo and taxi back to your hotel in El Centro. It would save your time and money overall.
[QUOTE=Socker;1304003]This next trip I will be on my own so I want to make sure I understand the pros and cons of the area. Is there anything to do (there) in the daytime.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1304333]Only a few druggies in Mayo in the daytime. There is nothing to do there. If you stay in Mayo, you would have to ride on metro for 20minutes to go to El Centro for casas (plus 10-15 minutes walk from hotel to Ayura station) in the day time. Instead, you may want to stay in El Centro and have fun at casas, strip clubs and street scenes in the daytime. In the night time, metro to Mayo and taxi back to your hotel in El Centro. It would save your time and money overall.[/QUOTE]Might I also ask for any help on finding a GOOD dentista, he probably needs to speak english. I don't want to take a chance communicating (only) in spanish. [blue][Non-English text deleted by Admin][/blue]
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Hi guys,
How have you been? Carlsean here, newbie member of the community I do have lot of interests and I even make myself busy by engaging myself with active activities but at the end of the day I do not forgot to have some fun and mingle with my friends. Nice to meet you all.
[QUOTE=HedonicAdventu; 1306116]Hi guys,
How have you been? Carlsean here, newbie member of the community I do have lot of interests and I even make myself busy by engaging myself with active activities but at the end of the day I do not forgot to have some fun and mingle with my friends. Nice to meet you all.[/QUOTE]Thats what its all about! Having fun! Thank you for this! P. S. Why don't you share some of your intrests and activites with us?
[QUOTE=Reefski; 1306225]I'm feeling the fun! I'm wheels down and soon to be be balls deep in Medellin.
Reef.[/QUOTE]Nice bro! Hit it out of the park! Send me some pics via Email! Be Safe!
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Beginning June 14, American will increase the total number of weekly flights between Dallas / Fort Worth and Sao Paulo to 12 times per week, and flights from Miami to Brasilia (BSB) and to Belo Horizonte (CNF) will increase to daily flights. We now offer more flights between the USA and Brazil than any other airline, giving you more opportunities to explore the country's white-sand beaches, colonial towns, and colorful culture. Flying to Sao Paulo? Beginning in December 2012, be among the first to experience our brand new Boeing 777-300ER aircraft. Equipped with fully lie flat First and Business Class seats, a variety of inflight entertainment options, and international Wi-Fi capability, you'll have a comfortable and enjoyable trip to Brazil.
We believe that the travel experience is as much a part of the trip as the destination. Once in the air, customers in the main cabin on the way to Sao Paulo and other select destinations in Brazil can now say cheers to complimentary beer and wine!
* The above is from an AA email announcement today, though it basically only mentions Brazil (must be Ricker's doing, LOL?). Hopefully AA will continue to add more flights to Latin America and increase competition which can only help with airfare pricing.
I'm headed to Medellin again but lost my driver's contact information. Looking for reliable driver to pick me up from airport and general transportation. Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Joe
[QUOTE=Average Joe2; 1306694]I'm headed to Medellin again but lost my driver's contact information. Looking for reliable driver to pick me up from airport and general transportation. Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Joe[/QUOTE]Go to the thread "Medellin List" and scroll towards the bottom and there is a list of recommended drivers.
I will post this in here since this forum is very active. I was wondering how you guys do it. Afford to travel and bang broads I mean.
I am finishing off my post graduate studies now, I will have a CPA in a few months and was wondering how you guys afford the lifestyle you live? I am ultimately looking to see how some people managed to afford to live away from the US of A and in Colombia as I would like to live there for at least a few months of the year.
How did you guys afford to travel frequently for sex (and tourism?). If you live away from the US of A, how long did it take you to get to the point where you could successfully live abroad?
I would like to operate a business of some sort eventually (I am only 25 so I have some time to peruse business ideas) or hopefully work at a decent paying job. I am looking to build a lifestyle where I can ultimately live away from the US of A and still earn decent cash flows to live well abroad. And of course, bang women!
Thanks guys.
I can't speak for most mongers, but I can tell you that my "hobby" averages over 20K per year (all inclusive: air, accommodations chicas, etc). I live in the midwest and own a consulting company, so my job is virtual and am able to write off most of my hobby expenses as work related. Over time, I've been able to build a client base in Latin America that requires several trips a year so I'll rent a nice condo where I set up the office and work during the day while mongering at night.
Many fellow mongers that I know who make multiple trips / yr live in US cities with a major hub airport that allows them to fly inexpensively for a quick weekend trip. Others have the financial wherewithal and freedom to travel on business (airline ee's and traveling sales / consulting positions). Still others are retired military or government ee's who have a monthly pension that allows a comfortable standard of living.
A wise monger told me years ago if you're planning to live abroad, make your money in dollars and spend in local currency.
Just do it. Especially at your age. It's a wonderful thing to be 25, or even 40, and be in Colombia, Peru, Argentina or Thailand. Your time in those countries, with your youth, would be incomparably better than doing the same thing at 55. And you can learn Spanish too.
In terms of cost, you do have to be making a certain amount of money, and then it's a question of how you travel. And again, as a younger person you might be able to spend less both in accommodations (think hostel) and the women may charge you less (or not at all). Say you get a job making $60k, which of course would be a pretty good job. You might be able to squeeze out two trips a year, at $4k apiece, on that salary.
Most guys don't go when they are young, they save and then go when they are older and have money saved up. But really, my advice would be go while you are young, and again, you are way young enough to learn the language.
In fact, you could learn Spanish, get your MBA in International Finance, learn Portuguese, and there you go.
[QUOTE=Mr OReilly; 1307150]I will post this in here since this forum is very active. I was wondering how you guys do it. Afford to travel and bang broads I mean.
I am finishing off my post graduate studies now, I will have a CPA in a few months and was wondering how you guys afford the lifestyle you live? I am ultimately looking to see how some people managed to afford to live away from the US of A and in Colombia as I would like to live there for at least a few months of the year.
How did you guys afford to travel frequently for sex (and tourism?). If you live away from the US of A, how long did it take you to get to the point where you could successfully live abroad?
I would like to operate a business of some sort eventually (I am only 25 so I have some time to peruse business ideas) or hopefully work at a decent paying job. I am looking to build a lifestyle where I can ultimately live away from the US of A and still earn decent cash flows to live well abroad. And of course, bang women!
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]You probably learned to live cheaply in college. Keep those habits after you get a good job and you'll have plenty of money to travel every month or two. Since you will be a CPA you might consider specializing in taxes. That way you can bust your ass during tax season and travel the rest of the year. Or some type of consulting job that has you traveling a lot, where you can bank your frequent flier miles and use them for your real travels.
very good advice. thank you.
[quote=chesrep001; 1307448]just do it. especially at your age. it's a wonderful thing to be 25, or even 40, and be in colombia, peru, argentina or thailand. your time in those countries, with your youth, would be incomparably better than doing the same thing at 55. and you can learn spanish too.
in terms of cost, you do have to be making a certain amount of money, and then it's a question of how you travel. and again, as a younger person you might be able to spend less both in accommodations (think hostel) and the women may charge you less (or not at all). say you get a job making $60k, which of course would be a pretty good job. you might be able to squeeze out two trips a year, at $4k apiece, on that salary.
most guys don't go when they are young, they save and then go when they are older and have money saved up. but really, my advice would be go while you are young, and again, you are way young enough to learn the language.
in fact, you could learn spanish, get your mba in international finance, learn portuguese, and there you go.[/quote]
IF you speak really good English AND really good Spanish, you can command very nice pay in Bogota and perhaps Medellin, especially if you go freelance. But forget about other Colombian cities, money is just too hard to come by in those places. And GOOD English means better than 90% of Americans, and good Spanish means NOT the shit the typical "bilingual" New Yorker speaks.
I am not sure I perfectly match the criteria since I only live half of the year abroad either in Colombia or Argentina, but I will give my two cents anyway. What worked best for me is to have a full time job in the US that I enjoyed but also allows me to work remotely. I alternate between living in the US and living abroad in two month intervals. I have found it to be the best of both worlds. I get the salary and benefits of a job in the US. While at the same time being able to enjoy extended travel without having to deal with visa issues or doing low paying work that I would not enjoy like teaching English.
I have been doing this for the last three years and have enjoyed it a lot. I have found that working while abroad makes the time more enjoyable. At least for me after few weeks of partying it gets old if that is all you are doing.
[QUOTE=Mr OReilly; 1307150]I will post this in here since this forum is very active. I was wondering how you guys do it. Afford to travel and bang broads I mean.
I am finishing off my post graduate studies now, I will have a CPA in a few months and was wondering how you guys afford the lifestyle you live? I am ultimately looking to see how some people managed to afford to live away from the US of A and in Colombia as I would like to live there for at least a few months of the year.
How did you guys afford to travel frequently for sex (and tourism?). If you live away from the US of A, how long did it take you to get to the point where you could successfully live abroad?
I would like to operate a business of some sort eventually (I am only 25 so I have some time to peruse business ideas) or hopefully work at a decent paying job. I am looking to build a lifestyle where I can ultimately live away from the US of A and still earn decent cash flows to live well abroad. And of course, bang women!
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
Bango, you command really good pay for doing what?
[QUOTE=Mr OReilly; 1307150]I will post this in here since this forum is very active. I was wondering how you guys do it. Afford to travel and bang broads I mean.
I am finishing off my post graduate studies now, I will have a CPA in a few months and was wondering how you guys afford the lifestyle you live? I am ultimately looking to see how some people managed to afford to live away from the US of A and in Colombia as I would like to live there for at least a few months of the year.
How did you guys afford to travel frequently for sex (and tourism?). If you live away from the US of A, how long did it take you to get to the point where you could successfully live abroad?
I would like to operate a business of some sort eventually (I am only 25 so I have some time to peruse business ideas) or hopefully work at a decent paying job. I am looking to build a lifestyle where I can ultimately live away from the US of A and still earn decent cash flows to live well abroad. And of course, bang women!
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]THe answer for me was to stay as far away from a wedding chapel as possible. MY married friends PPP is about $2000. And get a vasectomy so that the decision to have kids is yours. LIve far below your earning level, a week with available pretty women is worth more then a new corvette to me, and find a business where everything you do is an expense to be deducted. I have only worked hard for about 15 years and now retired to live in Mexico, while I explore other areas. La Buena Vida.
Planning my first Colombia trip in January. Anyone can recommend me a good free dating site?
Thanks
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1306219]Thats what its all about! Having fun! Thank you for this! P. S. Why don't you share some of your intrests and activites with us?[/QUOTE]Great! I really love sports, actually my favorite is triathlon, gave me endurance during and after the game with my fellow player, its a erotic pleasure after the game with new met partner.
Hello brothers,
I've searched the forum for specific info about data plans in Colombia and come up empty.
I am specifically interested in setting up my Colombian cell phone with the ability to check my email.
Anyone have experience on this subject? What kind of phone is necessary? Any particular company offer this service? What are the rates? Is it possible to turn on and off and just download all new mail and work off-line. Like the original days of AOL. Haha.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1310726]Hello brothers,
I've searched the forum for specific info about data plans in Colombia and come up empty.
I am specifically interested in setting up my Colombian cell phone with the ability to check my email.
Anyone have experience on this subject? What kind of phone is necessary? Any particular company offer this service? What are the rates? Is it possible to turn on and off and just download all new mail and work off-line. Like the original days of AOL. Haha.
Thanks![/QUOTE]All the cell phone companies have plan de datos now with the availability to receive emails "in real time"
My girl has a blackberry with the NEW uff movil. Its by far the cheapest and includes minutes and she has the availability to call me in the states at like 200pesos a minute. [url]www.uffmovil.com[/url]
The next cheapest with plan de datos is movistar. [url]www.movistar.co[/url]
Then [url]www.tigo.com.co[/url]
Then the now defunkt COMCEL which was bought out by CLARO. [url]www.claro.com.co[/url] Which when compairing was always the most expensive!
Comcel has always been the most expensive, but I always preferred it, it has the best coverage. As a matter of fact I wish I could find a US carrier that has coverage as good, I'm on vacation up here now and dead spots EVERYWHERE. 4G my ass!
Tigo sends you messages starting at 7am all day every day with stupid promotional offers that are not worth it. Movistar is OK but like I said the other's reception is better. Never tried UFF. Did some jingles for them when they launched :P
[quote=chesrep001;1308965]bango, you command really good pay for doing what?[/quote]i'm a musician.
[QUOTE=Dirtdog;1309020]. La Buena Vida.[/QUOTE]. Yeah "Vida sacrificada". LOL It took me 30 years though.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1310944]Comcel has always been the most expensive, but I always preferred it, it has the best coverage. As a matter of fact I wish I could find a US carrier that has coverage as good, I'm on vacation up here now and dead spots EVERYWHERE. 4G my ass!
Tigo sends you messages starting at 7am all day every day with stupid promotional offers that are not worth it. Movistar is OK but like I said the other's reception is better. Never tried UFF. Did some jingles for them when they launched :P[/QUOTE]I have Movistar and they do have excellent coverage, decent phones, but they send 3-5 texts a day with some BS promo and maybe 1 or 2 calls a week but I can't be sure this is Movistar or some auto dialer for a telemarker in Colombia.
To the Colombian vets, I'm a newbie and planning a trip to Colombia soon. My question is, what part of Colombia can I find the most women with Big asses, something more like the pornstar Cherokee D'ass.
Thanks in advance
Check the Cali report thread. Go to Bar La Veinte.
[QUOTE=Cltrader; 1311374]To the Colombian vets, I'm a newbie and planning a trip to Colombia soon. My question is, what part of Colombia can I find the most women with Big asses, something more like the pornstar Cherokee D'ass.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cltrader; 1311374]To the Colombian vets, I'm a newbie and planning a trip to Colombia soon. My question is, what part of Colombia can I find the most women with Big asses, something more like the pornstar Cherokee D'ass.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]There's big butted chicas all over Colombian big cities, plenty to go around, but bar La Veinte has a lot.
[QUOTE=Cltrader; 1311374]To the Colombian vets, I'm a newbie and planning a trip to Colombia soon. My question is, what part of Colombia can I find the most women with Big asses, something more like the pornstar Cherokee D'ass.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]In general the hotter the weather, the more junk in the trunk!
[QUOTE=BayBoy;1311651]There's big butted chicas all over Colombian big cities, plenty to go around, but bar La Veinte has a lot.[/QUOTE]Thanks everyone for your inputs, I can't wait to visit Cali in November.
I will travel to Colombia October for two weeks. One goal is to improve my spanish and the other one is to meet nice women. I have been to Colombia for business and really like the people. The ideal vacation for me would be to meet nice women who show me around the place and would also be interested to jump with me into the cama, for an adequate financial reward of course. I am forty and for me best sex worked with a bit more experienced girl. My experience for Columbia is that for paid sex the younger seems to be be better. A woman older than 25 is already regarded as unattractive. A good target would be divorced women. Would it be appropriate to ask a women if she or a girl-friend can show me around as a kind of tourist guide? I think that would be the only approach since in the typical bars only the young good-looking hookers hang around.
I was thinking of the excellent idea that an American made real, producing porno with his hot latina wife, ongoing since 2005, recieving 88/100 points [url]http://www.mrpinks.com/porn-reviews/chica-s-place[/url]
How about to make something similar, but living an having the SA / SRL in Colombia?
There should be many girls willing for this relationship / work. Just look at [url]http://www.vecinabella.com/la-espectacular-anita-toro-famosa-extwitera-y-web-pornstar-colombiana[/url]
I have a SA in Costa Rica and it was very simple for us / me to since one co-owner is Costa Rica citizen.
I think it may be similar in Colombia, but my research so far has not given answer far from 100.
A site you guys should take a look at is bangbros Culioneros [url]http://beta3.members.bangbros.com/updates/index/product_id/136[/url]
There should be an enourmous demand for white-anglo saxons in their 35-60 having sex on video with real / supposed Latina wifes with huge tits and ass.
For me the videos at Culioneros are relaxed and you can aviod the disturbing Eastern European accent if you want hot foreign girls (or the worst criminal-alike eastern european men). No empathy or sensuality, just fuck (or Die).
Gents,
I'm looking to go to Colombia in februari. I'm going to rent an appartement with some friends.
My main goal is to score some of the non-pro girls, and basically hang out with them, have some fun and fuck them afterwards. If it fails I can always pay some pro's, so no harm done.
How are my chances? I'm 24, pretty muscular, belgian and fairly good looking (that's what the girls say over here at least).
Is there a city that you would recommend for this kind of hunt? For example a city with a university, or a place where a lot of youth congregates?
Thanks!
[quote=party pooper; 1312701]gents,
i'm looking to go to colombia in februari. i'm going to rent an appartement with some friends.
my main goal is to score some of the non-pro girls, and basically hang out with them, have some fun and fuck them afterwards. if it fails i can always pay some pro's, so no harm done.
how are my chances? i'm 24, pretty muscular, belgian and fairly good looking (that's what the girls say over here at least).
is there a city that you would recommend for this kind of hunt? for example a city with a university, or a place where a lot of youth congregates?
thanks![/quote]if you speak spanish and are classically handsome (tall dark handsome or blond blue eyed) you will have no problems. if you have no spanish skills and are classically handsome you will have a 50-50 chance. if you speak no spanish and are not handsome than you are shit out of luck! seriously. if you speak some spanish and are of average looks you have a punchers chance.
Thank you very much slamcity. I'm the tall and dark type of guy.
Here's an interesting link I found about non-pro's in Colombia (just ignore the marketing) , I think it matches most things I read on the forum:
[url]http://www.seductionscience.com/2010/colombia-lay-guide/[/url]
Got a tip from a guy on a dutch forum who studied 6 months in Colombia and had some great pussy.
When you go out, and see a girl that you like in a mixed group, start talking to one of the guys in the group.
As Colombian people are generally friendly, you will almost always have a positive response and later he will introduce you to the rest of the group after some basic chit chat.
He asked things like 'where did you buy those jeans, I really like them' or 'can you buy the beer that you're drinking in a supermarket nearby? '.
This is supposed to be a great way size up the group, to see if the girls have a boyfriend or not and to infiltrate under the radar with the girls.
[quote=party pooper; 1312983]thank you very much slamcity. i'm the tall and dark type of guy.
here's an interesting link i found about non-pro's in colombia (just ignore the marketing) , i think it matches most things i read on the forum:
[url]http://www.seductionscience.com/2010/colombia-lay-guide/[/url][/quote]i can't believe how "honest" most of that so-called article was! pretty spot other than the gross generalization of what women look like in specific areas and that colombians want to date gringos. that ship has sailed in most every major city in colombia about 10 years ago. another huge mistake is that most girls in south america, not only colo are young single mothers, not just the 30yr olds.
1) speak spanish.
2) you need time, most of south am. isn't mexico on spring break, the grls living at home
3) if you have no game at home you'll have no game in a foreign country.
4) grow balls.
how sad is that dvd or dating system that guy is trying to sell!
i had the best luck at the food court at different malls and with shop girls
Here in Belgium I go to the most popular clubs, and I can score (frenck kiss, get a date or more) 65-75% of the nights that I go out. So I'd say I have ok game.
But when I went to Bali for example, this ok game became GREAT game. I could score chicks who were working in the clubs, the hottest girls in the clubs and even a famous model / actress in Bali. I even got congratulated by unknown Aussies partying over there about the chicks I played. This were all non-pro's, didn't pay a dime, maybe a drink here and there.
You think the same will happen in a country like Colombia, or will it still be pretty hard?
Great info BTW, thanks again.
Slam,
The article did have a lot of generalizations and some goofy azz made-up expressions and acronyms, but some of it is true and is common sense dating 101 stuff like you mentioned: needing to have confidence and without game in the US why do you think you'd have more success abroad especially if you're not fluent in Spanish?
Overall I'd rate this dating advice site as gay as hell. The main guy, Jesse, appears to be a huge D'bag and greatly reminds me in looks of the actor Danny McBride.
Also agree with you it's truly sad if anyone is so nut-less and East Bound and Down in life that they're buying Kenny Powers or Cuba Dave videos, LOL!
One thing we humbly disagree about is the notion that Colombian or Latinas don't want to date gringos any longer. If you're on vacation, of course they know what you're after and there's also the double edged sword of being seen in public with and having a gringo novio. IMHO many latinas like having gringo novios for a variety of obvious reasons and there's definitely some distinct advantages in being an educated, decent looking gringo between the ages of 30 to 60. Just my 4 cents.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1313010]I can't believe how "honest" most of that so-called article was! Pretty spot other than the gross generalization of what women look like in specific areas and that Colombians want to date gringos. That ship has sailed in most every major city in Colombia about 10 years ago. Another HUGE mistake is that MOST girls in South America, not only Colo are young single mothers, not just the 30yr olds.
1) Speak Spanish.
2) You Need time, most of South Am. Isn't Mexico on Spring break, the grls living at home
3) If you have no game at home you'll have no game in a foreign country.
4) Grow Balls.
How sad is that DVD or dating system that guy is trying to sell!
I had the best luck at the food court at different malls and with shop girls[/QUOTE]
Well written and I actually laughed out loud at this post!"Kenny Powers" love it.
Well to clarify, it's not that Latinas in general don't want to date gringos but the thought that being a gringo is ENOUGH. Like they're going to see our Blue Passports and shit their pants with excitement. Like the circus coming to town! Hhahaha. It's up to the individual is what I was trying to get at and justt because you are a gringo some gang of chicks would fall over themselves trying to get at your cock!
99. 8% agreement is pretty good. Kenny Powers! Love that show!
[QUOTE=Ronin1; 1313248]Slam,
The article did have a lot of generalizations and some goofy azz made-up expressions and acronyms, but some of it is true and is common sense dating 101 stuff like you mentioned: needing to have confidence and without game in the US why do you think you'd have more success abroad especially if you're not fluent in Spanish?
Overall I'd rate this dating advice site as gay as hell. The main guy, Jesse, appears to be a huge D'bag and greatly reminds me in looks of the actor Danny McBride.
Also agree with you it's truly sad if anyone is so nut-less and East Bound and Down in life that they're buying Kenny Powers or Cuba Dave videos, LOL!
One thing we humbly disagree about is the notion that Colombian or Latinas don't want to date gringos any longer. If you're on vacation, of course they know what you're after and there's also the double edged sword of being seen in public with and having a gringo novio. IMHO many latinas like having gringo novios for a variety of obvious reasons and there's definitely some distinct advantages in being an educated, decent looking gringo between the ages of 30 to 60. Just my 4 cents.[/QUOTE]
I have ONE big problem with this article. There IS child support in Colombia and it works EXACTLY like the US. Guys who knock girls up in Colombia and then disappear will quickly find their asses hauled into court, and they can even go to jail for non-payment. Speaking from what I have observed personally in 4 years living there.
[QUOTE=Shannon13;1311859]I will travel to Colombia October for two weeks. One goal is to improve my spanish and the other one is to meet nice women. I have been to Colombia for business and really like the people. The ideal vacation for me would be to meet nice women who show me around the place and would also be interested to jump with me into the cama, for an adequate financial reward of course. I am forty and for me best sex worked with a bit more experienced girl. My experience for Columbia is that for paid sex the younger seems to be be better. A woman older than 25 is already regarded as unattractive. A good target would be divorced women. Would it be appropriate to ask a women if she or a girl-friend can show me around as a kind of tourist guide? I think that would be the only approach since in the typical bars only the young good-looking hookers hang around.[/QUOTE]First you should make up your mind whether you want a hooker or a "nice woman." It seems you are trying to combine the two into the same person. You want a nice woman: non-pro. You want to give her money: pro. Good target divorced woman: why the hell would it matter if a pro is single or divorced? You are going to give her the same money regardless. How do you regard a woman older than 25 as unattractive when you have never even seen her? And to top it off your title is, "How to Approach Women in Their Thirties." Bullshit post for sure.
OK another BIG problem, this IDIOT actually thinks your typical Colombian girl will be FAITHFUL to you HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
[QUOTE=Ronin1;1313248]IMHO many latinas like having gringo novios for a variety of obvious reasons and there's definitely some distinct advantages in being an educated, decent looking gringo between the ages of 30 to 60. Just my 4 cents.[/QUOTE]Strictly talking non pros here. 60? Yes if the woman is 50. Here I find that the older man thing only really works if the guy can look the other way (she has a boyfriend actually in her league and age range). Oh and if the 50+ guy has lots of money. I don't see the 50 year old backpacker on a budget arm in arm with any hot non pros.
The younger single women, with a job, in the 20-30 range who have their shit half together would not be caught dead with a 45+ gringo.
The ones that do are somewhat desperate with kids, estrato 1-2 types, or within 10-20 years of the cucho. Again, talking non pros here.
Sorry Sailor, I would respectfully but definitely have to disagree with you. Obviously was generalizing in putting an age range of 30 to 60 years but also don't see the need to disrespect older ISG members. Obviously there are many variables such as looks, confidence, how you dress and carry yourself, wealth and spanish speaking ability. Also I'm confused because nothing in the previous comments referred to a 50 yr old gringo "back packer" type? So maybe you just like to disagree or hear yourself type? Or possibly you are speaking from a bad personal experiences and, or perhaps about Parque Lleras in particular? However in my humble experience in 6 different Latin countries while age difference is a factor it's nowhere near the same concern (not by a long shot) as in comparison to the US. Also the number of latinas with "good" jobs is a vast minority and what constitutes a good paying job in latin America is far different than the US. Hence being an educated, decent looking and confident gringo comes with many advantages (and some disadvantages) in latin america and, for that matter, a good part of the world. And I'm not saying it's right or fair but that's the way things are because of a lot of preconceived notions: but you won't see me complaining too much, LOL.
Like many others I like to chase attractive women whether its home or abroad and I'm not hung up on placing a strict definition on each one. However in my travels I do prefer to meet non pros and so will be heading to Lima in 3 weeks to spend a few days in Miraflores with a 21 yr old, non pro chica who's a junior at San Ignacio college in La Molina, Peru. But this has also been my experience in other countries such as Phillipines, Mexico, DR, Panama and Colombia. As other and more wiser ISG poster's have previously stated it's really more about how you handle yourself. If you can't deal with women in the states than what makes you think you will magically be successful with a younger latina in another country? And if you don't speak any Spanish and could possibly be referred to as a "Walmart Gringo" than your chances are further reduced. Just my 8 cents.
[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1314177]Strictly talking non pros here. 60? Yes if the woman is 50. Here I find that the older man thing only really works if the guy can look the other way (she has a boyfriend actually in her league and age range). Oh and if the 50+ guy has lots of money. I don't see the 50 year old backpacker on a budget arm in arm with any hot non pros.
The younger single women, with a job, in the 20-30 range who have their shit half together would not be caught dead with a 45+ gringo.
The ones that do are somewhat desperate with kids, estrato 1-2 types, or within 10-20 years of the cucho. Again, talking non pros here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1314177]Strictly talking non pros here. 60? Yes if the woman is 50. Here I find that the older man thing only really works if the guy can look the other way (she has a boyfriend actually in her league and age range). Oh and if the 50+ guy has lots of money. I don't see the 50 year old backpacker on a budget arm in arm with any hot non pros.
The younger single women, with a job, in the 20-30 range who have their shit half together would not be caught dead with a 45+ gringo.
The ones that do are somewhat desperate with kids, estrato 1-2 types, or within 10-20 years of the cucho. Again, talking non pros here.[/QUOTE]Hate to jump on the bandwagon to bash this post, but like alot of information I've been seeing lately on this forum. Well, it's just dead wrong. I am over 45 and my last serious relationship was with a 27 year old woman from Cali, who is a lawyer from a very political family, a part time model, who was first runner up in Miss Cali when she was 20 years old. Met all of her family, she has a USA tourist visa and visited me 2 times here in the States over the past year. I've been traveling to Colombia steadily since '98. It's laughable some of the poor generalizations and just plain out misinformation that some members here post, after only making a handful of trips and more than likely speak baby jibberish spanish.
[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1314177]Strictly talking non pros here. 60? Yes if the woman is 50. Here I find that the older man thing only really works if the guy can look the other way (she has a boyfriend actually in her league and age range). Oh and if the 50+ guy has lots of money. I don't see the 50 year old backpacker on a budget arm in arm with any hot non pros.
The younger single women, with a job, in the 20-30 range who have their shit half together would not be caught dead with a 45+ gringo.
The ones that do are somewhat desperate with kids, estrato 1-2 types, or within 10-20 years of the cucho. Again, talking non pros here.[/QUOTE]Big generalization here.
I disagree.
[QUOTE=Ronin1;1314272]Sorry Sailor, I would respectfully but definitely have to disagree with you. Obviously was generalizing in putting an age range of 30 to 60 years but also don't see the need to disrespect older ISG members. Obviously there are many variables such as looks, confidence, how you dress and carry yourself, wealth and spanish speaking ability. Also I'm confused because nothing in the previous comments referred to a 50 yr old gringo "back packer" type? So maybe[/QUOTE]Totally agree.
[QUOTE=Nino Bravo;1314429]Hate to jump on the bandwagon to bash this post, but like alot of information I've been seeing lately on this forum. Well, it's just dead wrong. I am over 45 and my last serious relationship was with a 27 year old woman from Cali, who is a lawyer from a very political family, a part time model, who was first runner up in Miss Cali when she was 20 years old. Met all of her family, she has a USA tourist visa and visited me 2 times here in the States over the past year. I've been traveling to Colombia steadily since '98. It's laughable some of the poor generalizations and just plain out misinformation that some members here post, after only making a handful of trips and more than likely speak baby jibberish spanish.[/QUOTE]Totally agree.
I have to submit a proposal by next week for a study abroad program in economics for a community college. Would like to find an educational institution in Columbia close enough to monger but far enough and safe enough to pass the smell test, does anyone have connections or know of Universities / Educational institutions. Where we could rent class rooms dorms ect. Does anyone have connections with the central bank, economic development in Columbia that could give my students tours or speak to my students (in English). I would go down the first year by myself to set it up, the school pays for my airfare hotel meals etc. Then I would have to go down with the students for three consecutive summers after that. Once the students go back I can stay for a few days and monger.
Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Chris
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1313325]First you should make up your mind whether you want a hooker or a "nice woman." It seems you are trying to combine the two into the same person. You want a nice woman: non-pro. You want to give her money: pro. Good target divorced woman: why the hell would it matter if a pro is single or divorced? You are going to give her the same money regardless. How do you regard a woman older than 25 as unattractive when you have never even seen her? And to top it off your title is, "How to Approach Women in Their Thirties." Bullshit post for sure.[/QUOTE]The "whether you want a hooker or a nice woman" comment just kill me. Number 1. It is not accurate and # 2 it is dumb. Please don't spread this kind of thought process because it makes no freaking sense. A so-called nice woman won't give you the time of day if you don't have MONEY! They're not called feemales for nothing Mr. E. A woman is either nice or she is not nice, makes no difference what her job is.
Geez
[QUOTE=Nino Bravo;1314429]It's laughable some of the poor generalizations and just plain out misinformation that some members here post, after only making a handful of trips and more than likely speak baby jibberish spanish.[/QUOTE]What's laughable is your inability to recognize that there are always exceptions, nothing is 100% black or white. I beleive every word you type.
But the majority of hot 20 somethings arm in arm with gingo 50 somethings are girls in financial need. If you have never seen that to be the majority I don't know what to say. Yes there are exceptions.
Born in the US I have lived here in Colombia between Cali and Medellin for 20 years and have been fluent in Spanish since birth, thanks.
[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1314837]I have to submit a proposal by next week for a study abroad program in economics for a community college. Would like to find an educational institution in Columbia close enough to monger but far enough and safe enough to pass the smell test, does anyone have connections or know of Universities / Educational institutions. Where we could rent class rooms dorms ect. Does anyone have connections with the central bank, economic development in Columbia that could give my students tours or speak to my students (in English). I would go down the first year by myself to set it up, the school pays for my airfare hotel meals etc. Then I would have to go down with the students for three consecutive summers after that. Once the students go back I can stay for a few days and monger.
Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Chris[/QUOTE]Bogotá. Start your search there
[QUOTE=Ricker;1314496]Big generalization here.[/QUOTE]But a truthful one. Strictly non pros I'm talkin'. I believe I have described the majority and not the exceptions of some of you super studs.
You're going to tell me (today. Not 10 years ago) that the 50 something out of shape foreigner here on vacation speaking intermediate spanish has on his arm:
A.) A 20 something college graduated single professional beauty, like NinoBravo's piece.
Be.) A high school educated maybe has a minimum wage if any job, single mom living in a struggling household.
There are a looooooot of 20-30 something fluent foreigners with culture, class and money coming down (today. Not 10 years ago). Girl A can be real choosey if foreigners float her boat. Not like 10 years ago.
[QUOTE=Nino Bravo;1314429]I am over 45 and my last serious relationship was with a 27 year old woman from Cali, who is a lawyer from a very political family, a part time model, who was first runner up in Miss Cali when she was 20 years old. Met all of her family, she has a USA tourist visa and visited me 2 times here in the States over the past year. I've been traveling to Colombia steadily since '98. It's laughable blah blah blah[/QUOTE]So what you're saying is you're the typical gringo on vacation, nothing overly special about you. Like the majority here. You're just like every other guest at the Mansion or La Mayorista. You all have the same charm, culture and level of Spanish and pulling non pro Miss Cali girl for a Long Term serious Relationahip is the norm for all of you typical 50+ monger guys.
Can I get a "yes" from you on all of that?
If you don't answer yes then your original post I am quoting has little merit, sorry. I seem to think you are a special case, sir, wait you should call me sir as I am surely older than you.
I'm 48 and I've been having a fling with a very attractive and bright 29 year-old here in CHICAGO. And if one
can do it in the US, one can likely do it in Colombia. Though obviously, if you don't speak Spanish and don't have
some "game," your chances are worse in Colombia than at home.
FWIW, I don't understand the desire the "date" these girls when on vacation. I go on vacation for good weather
and what I call "sport fucking," which almost by definition is with Pros.
Now if I lived in MDE or Cali for an extended period, I would go after non-pros. But for a week or two of
Vacation, I'd much rather pay upfront and get a guaranteed experience. There's no way you can really get to
know someone in such a short time period and if you fall in love 3000 miles away from home, it's going to be painful.
BTW,"sport fucking" by no means implies that I treat the girls badly. I always treat them respectively and
try to make the experience mutually enjoyable. But I'm still explicitly paying for it.
IMO, date at home and pay while abroad (where it's legal!) makes the most sense.
Combo, don't bother to argue the point. No one, absolutley no one has agreed with Sailor's opinion but he's going to keep trying until someone finally does, LOL!
[QUOTE=Combo; 1315167]I'm 48 and I've been having a fling with a very attractive and bright 29 year-old here in CHICAGO. And if one.
Can do it in the US, one can likely do it in Colombia. Though obviously, if you don't speak Spanish and don't have.
Some "game," your chances are worse in Colombia than at home.
FWIW, I don't understand the desire the "date" these girls when on vacation. I go on vacation for good weather.
And what I call "sport fucking," which almost by definition is with Pros.
Now if I lived in MDE or Cali for an extended period, I would go after non-pros. But for a week or two of
Vacation, I'd much rather pay upfront and get a guaranteed experience. There's no way you can really get to.
Know someone in such a short time period and if you fall in love 3000 miles away from home, it's going to be painful.
BTW,"sport fucking" by no means implies that I treat the girls badly. I always treat them respectively and.
Try to make the experience mutually enjoyable. But I'm still explicitly paying for it.
IMO, date at home and pay while abroad (where it's legal!) makes the most sense.[/QUOTE]
LMAO, Years ago, you could say this but today a Gringo is no longer a novelty.
Having been in this hobby for over 20 years I can say Slamcity is correct and writes some funny shit. The key to non. Pros today is you need to speak the language, be looking for a serious relationship and put the time in to romance them. As far as the pros go, the blue passport is a signal to charge you more.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1313293]Well written and I actually laughed out loud at this post!"Kenny Powers" love it.
Well to clarify, it's not that Latinas in general don't want to date gringos but the thought that being a gringo is ENOUGH. Like they're going to see our Blue Passports and shit their pants with excitement. Like the circus coming to town! Hhahaha. It's up to the individual is what I was trying to get at and justt because you are a gringo some gang of chicks would fall over themselves trying to get at your cock!
99. 8% agreement is pretty good. Kenny Powers! Love that show![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ronin1;1315239]No one, absolutley no one has agreed with Sailor's opinion but he's going to keep trying until someone finally does, LOL![/QUOTE]You don't know me, and that makes it easy to explain your misinterpretation.
I am not looking for people to agree with me, for what? I don't suffer from low self esteem and don't feel the need to prove myself as I am emotionally stable, I have a life, just like a lot of guys on this forum, like Ricker for instance. I never see him posting about how great he is.
I am here to help and contribute to newbies so that they receive accurate information. That's it. This is not my life, ISG and CRT are not my psychologist sofas. I am hoping and helping the newbie to get an objective viewpoint.
As Mark Twain said,"It's not that there is so much we don't know it's that so much of what we do know ain't true."
I know the difference between majorities and exceptions. I don't think Natalia Paris is beautiful but I know the majority of men do. It's called putting yourself in someone else's shoes. Truly a lost art. It would be foolish of me to come here and say a Natalia Paris look alike pro or non pro would be easy to score since her look is not attractive to locals nor expats here in Colombia, based solely on my special circumstance of disliking skinny blondes.
Ditto the answers many here are pushing as the norm. To tell an average 50-60 year old, intermediate spanish speaking guy coming to Colombia on vacation for 10 days that he will easily screw and turn into his LTR girlfriend a beautiful college graduated professional 20 something year old who was never a working girl is just friggen false.
Sure the ISG super studs have pulled it off but it is not the norm any more. Not even close.
If you all are going to spew stories of your greatness like Legal Tender please preface your posts with "I am an exceptional specimen of a man so this what I am about to post does not pertain to you and is a special circumstance" and then proceed to tell us all what a stud you are. This way the newbie will be able to judge accurately.
Give yourself credit guys, USE THE PREFACE don't make it seem as if your just like all the other grunt spanish average overweight poota mongering blundering gringos. Passing yourself and your exceptional experiences as such is not only misleading to the newbie but a disservice to your wonderful self and your wonderful accomplishments.
Just sayin'
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1; 1315240]LMAO, Years ago, you could say this but today a Gringo is no longer a novelty.
Having been in this hobby for over 20 years I can say Slamcity is correct and writes some funny shit. The key to non pros today is you need to speak the language, be looking for a serious relationship and put the time in to romance them. As far as the pros go, the blue passport is a signal to charge you more.[/QUOTE]Exceptional post
[QUOTE=Combo; 1315167]I'm 48 and I've been having a fling with a very attractive and bright 29 year-old here in CHICAGO. And if one can do it in the US, one can likely do it in Colombia. Though obviously, if you don't speak Spanish and don't have some "game," your chances are worse in Colombia than at home.
FWIW, I don't understand the desire the "date" these girls when on vacation. I go on vacation for good weather. And what I call "sport fucking," which almost by definition is with Pros.
Now if I lived in MDE or Cali for an extended period, I would go after non-pros. But for a week or two of vacation, I'd much rather pay upfront and get a guaranteed experience. There's no way you can really get to. Know someone in such a short time period and if you fall in love 3000 miles away from home, it's going to be painful.
BTW,"sport fucking" by no means implies that I treat the girls badly. I always treat them respectively and try to make the experience mutually enjoyable. But I'm still explicitly paying for it.
IMO, date at home and pay while abroad (where it's legal!) makes the most sense.[/QUOTE]Another great post every word IMHO. I will take a swipe at some guys looking for non pros to say that it may be about the ego boost. Some are not satisfied just getting and paying a hot working girl. They want to feel like they "still got it" and with a pro every other guy's "got it" and "gets it". Hehehehe. So how can he differentiate himself as above the pack unless he comes here to tell us?
Of course some guys looking to screw non pros are trying to save money but we all know that usually non pros end up costing more in the wallet and headache department.
I am trying to become a better social networker. Hereby raising a debate, how can we do a better job of filtering the B. S. And promote the sharing of useful facts, actualand not fantasized experiences and trip reports.
IMHO Any flaming or back and forth conversations should be directed through PMs.
Just as we so frequently offer the curt advice. RTFF.
IMO we need a similarly accessable acronym for "nobody cares. Why don't you guys get together for some tea and argue at starfux.
I suggest, PMTMFD. Short for Private message the mo fo directly.
Or NCGAR, nobody cares, get a room.
Or maybe, ORTY, only relevant to you.
With the ability to PM members, why would someone care to publicly discredit one man's logic and imagination. It's like debating if Mickey Ds hamburgers are good or bad. Just eat one and decide for yourself.
Come on guys, don't be a FUC. (Frequently Useless Commentator)
I ripped this off from a long-time contributor, if he wishes attribution just let me know.
Sage observation.
"Who the fuck wants to meet upper class women? We got tons of them stateside. We're trying to get the fuck away from that shit, with the child support, the lawyers and alimony. No way. No fucking way. Thats why we come to the Phils. We're here to shoot loads. Bust nuts. Spread seed. To hell with western civilization. And I actually have to spell this out?
First job of a monger is to deplane with a hard cock. And spring into action. Forget 'we are the world'. Start humping and hoin'. Busting sphincters, massive loads deposited etc. When the trip is over, we go back to civilization and assume that false mantle of respectability. Some of us don't even do that. We get back and immediately get into cyber wars with charlatans like Surfer while we rebuild our bank accounts and get ready for the next trip. Shallow? Sure! Give a fuck? Nah! Predictable? Fuck yeah!"
[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1315452]Another great post every word IMHO. I will take a swipe at some guys looking for non pros to say that it may be about the ego boost. Some are not satisfied just getting and paying a hot working girl. They want to feel like they "still got it" and with a pro every other guy's "got it" and "gets it". Hehehehe. So how can he differentiate himself as above the pack unless he comes here to tell us?
Of course some guys looking to screw non pros are trying to save money but we all know that usually non pros end up costing more in the wallet and headache department.[/QUOTE]Thats's all true, and I'd add that sometimes it's just nice to be with a girl who really just enjoys being with you too.
I personally dig having a girlfriend in Colombia, Brazil, or wherever I'm hangin my hat at the time, and then selectively choosing the pros to fulfill other desires that may arise.
That's just me of course, others just dig the pros, or don't have time or patience or game, as they say, for the regular girls.
[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1315452]Another great post every word IMHO. I will take a swipe at some guys looking for non pros to say that it may be about the ego boost. Some are not satisfied just getting and paying a hot working girl. They want to feel like they "still got it" and with a pro every other guy's "got it" and "gets it". Hehehehe. So how can he differentiate himself as above the pack unless he comes here to tell us?
Of course some guys looking to screw non pros are trying to save money but we all know that usually non pros end up costing more in the wallet and headache department.[/QUOTE]Ego boost? Save money? Guys get caught up in the mongering world and start seeing the real world as being the oddity. What is wrong with just wanting to meet and go out with a nice regular ass woman? LOL..."not satisified just getting and paying a hot working girl."... Like that is the norm.
[QUOTE=Ricker;1315909]Thats's all true, and I'd add that sometimes it's just nice to be with a girl who really just enjoys being with you too. I personally dig having a girlfriend in Colombia, Brazil, or wherever I'm hangin my hat at the time, and then selectively choosing the pros to fulfill other desires that may arise.[/QUOTE]BINGO. I center my shit around non-prostitutes then fill in the gaps when I want or if I have time with hookers. It seems many guys on this board are afraid to attempt to talk to normal women because they are afraid of being turned down so for them hookers are the end all be all. They talk bad about women where they are from because they can't get pussy there. Then they try to talk bad about people who like to be with women who aren't hookers by saying some shit like he must look like Brad Pitt or he is full of himself. Well newsflash, Brad Pitt without money and a camera in his face is just as normal looking as the next guy.
I would just say in general but ESPECIALLY as far as Colombia is concerned, that you're wasting your time trying to woo a woman. If she's expecting you to do all the courting and doesn't lift a finger, that's ALREADY a serious red flag situation! A Colombian woman if she actually is REALLY attracted to a man will swim shark infested waters to get to him!
If you encounter one of those situations you will definitely fuck on the first or second date, and she will rearrange her life just to be with you, at which point of it's it's appopriate to reciprocate! But it's VERY VERY difficult for a gringo to get there. I do it mainly because I'm a musician. But be warned, Colombian women do NOT like fat men any more than Colombian men like fat women. And when I mean fat, any man who cannot visibly see all his ab muscles in a mirror is considered FAT in Colombia. They also don't like the way gringos dress and act in public (it's not just Colombians, it's a common problem between countries of all sorts obviously).
The quest for non-pros for expats really belongs someplace like Peru perhaps. Colombia is great for pros! Don't mix the planes!
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1316212]I would just say in general but ESPECIALLY as far as Colombia is concerned, that you're wasting your time trying to woo a woman. If she's expecting you to do all the courting and doesn't lift a finger, that's ALREADY a serious red flag situation! A Colombian woman if she actually is REALLY attracted to a man will swim shark infested waters to get to him!
If you encounter one of those situations you will definitely fuck on the first or second date, and she will rearrange her life just to be with you, at which point of it's it's appopriate to reciprocate! But it's VERY VERY difficult for a gringo to get there. I do it mainly because I'm a musician. But be warned, Colombian women do NOT like fat men any more than Colombian men like fat women. And when I mean fat, any man who cannot visibly see all his ab muscles in a mirror is considered FAT in Colombia. They also don't like the way gringos dress and act in public (it's not just Colombians, it's a common problem between countries of all sorts obviously).
The quest for non-pros for expats really belongs someplace like Peru perhaps. Colombia is great for pros! Don't mix the planes![/QUOTE]Well, I'm not fat but I'm not an olympic gymnast either, I speak pretty good spanish and I'm nice and friendly with a humorous and positive attitude.
Just hasn't seemed that difficult over the years to have the Colombianitas (NPs) to "swim the shark iinfested waters" to hang out, fall in love / lust, etc, etc.
Matter of fact, I got one swimming the water right now, and I'm on my way to see her shortly. :)
You don't have to be a rock star to get it on with regular, good girls in Colombia, but you're right, they're not really looking for slobs or goobers either.
Speak spanish, be cool, decent shape and don't be a sap.
They'll open up to ya.
The problem can be too, once they really dig you, you may just have to swim the shark infested water to get away from 'them if you want to escape.
That's the truth.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1316212]But be warned, Colombian women do NOT like fat men any more than Colombian men like fat women. And when I mean fat, any man who cannot visibly see all his ab muscles in a mirror is considered FAT in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Not sure where you came up with this. The vast majority of Colombian men are out of shape and don't have 6 pack abs, as is true with the vast majority of all men. So according to you, colombian women don't like most men, since most men cannot visibly see all of their ab muscles in the mirror. With all due respect, your statement is pure non-sense.
I do agree that the majority of gringos don't know how to dress (or act for that matter). But on the other hand, many colombian men don't know how to dress either. I was in a club in Bogota a few weeks pack, in a private party in a VIP area. The colombian men dressed very poorly, with most wearing tennis shoes, torn jeans. And I'm not sure if any here notice, but most colombian men in Bogota are just plain ugly. And of course this bodes well for those gringos who travel to Bogota and who are handsome.
A gringo who has style, speaks fluent spanish, has a great personality, has very good possibilities with most women in Colombia. And no, you don't need to have 6 pack abs. LMAO!
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1316226]Well, I'm not fat but I'm not an olympic gymnast either, I speak pretty good spanish and I'm nice and friendly with a humorous and positive attitude.
Just hasn't seemed that difficult over the years to have the Colombianitas (NPs) to "swim the shark iinfested waters" to hang out, fall in love / lust, etc, etc.
Matter of fact, I got one swimming the water right now, and I'm on my way to see her shortly. .
You don't have to be a rock star to get it on with regular, good girls in Colombia[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you Ricker. My stomach muscles probably have not been seen since I came out of the womb (military service time included) , but I have had no problem with the women in Colombia. To me they are in the top 3 on the planet as far as looks and caring goes. My first Colombiana was a lawyer and rode the bus 14 hours from Cucuta to Bogota to see me. If that is not going through shark infested waters then I don't know what is.
I met one on the plane today as a matter of fact. Actually she was more Colombian-American. She didn't even know Monserrate in Bogota when I showed her a picture of me there. But anyway she was 26, 5'8", and just got her MBA. We got to talking and she eventually told me that if she didn't just get married she would like to be with me. I quickly told her that I wasn't interested in having a wife. We still traded information and she asked about facebook and said she would add me. A couple of minutes after I thought what an ego booster for her to say something like that. And she was exactly my type.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1316299]I totally agree with you Ricker. My stomach muscles probably have not been seen since I came out of the womb (military service time included) , but I have had no problem with the women in Colombia. To me they are in the top 3 on the planet as far as looks and caring goes. My first Colombiana was a lawyer and rode the bus 14 hours from Cucuta to Bogota to see me. If that is not going through shark infested waters then I don't know what is.
I met one on the plane today as a matter of fact. Actually she was more Colombian-American. She didn't even know Monserrate in Bogota when I showed her a picture of me there. But anyway she was 26, 5'8", and just got her MBA. We got to talking and she eventually told me that if she didn't just get married she would like to be with me. I quickly told her that I wasn't interested in having a wife. We still traded information and she asked about facebook and said she would add me. A couple of minutes after I thought what an ego booster for her to say something like that. And she was exactly my type.[/QUOTE]Right on amigo!
Once she realizes, however, that you haven't been using your Abs Buster that you ordered from a TV info-mercial, you're toast!
Haha, just jivin'
Take care guys.
You can bloviate all you want about the younger "hotter" "non pro, LOL" Colombianas accepting old, bald, ugly, out of shape gringos and maybe even some of the "charming" gringos being able to bamboozel some of these chicas into bed BUT keeping them interested and satisfied LONG TERM is another story completely. Most of these girls like to hang out with GOOD LOOKING guys and girls in their own age demographic, just look at their facebook wall. Do you see that guy whos always writing and liking her comments and pictures? Most likely thats the guy she's going out with and banging when your out of the picture. Ask yourself, could I get a girl like this on a regular basis in my own country, if not most likely the girl has an angle. Maybe not blatant but its definitely there. You self proclaimed "casanovas" on here will disagree with me and then we'll have to just agree to DISAGREE because neither if us is changing our minds.
Of course You should take every Colombiana on a case by case basis and your mileage may vary. Take every relationship with a grain of salt and thank the heavens if you ever happen to get on top of them, like I do! LOL Enjoy the moment!
IN COLOMBIA ESPECIALLY: always better to be the cynic, skeptic than the victim pendejo!
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1316510]You can bloviate all you want about the younger "hotter" "non pro, LOL" Colombianas accepting old, bald, ugly, out of shape gringos and maybe even some of the "charming" gringos being able to bamboozel some of these chicas into bed BUT keeping them interested and satisfied LONG TERM is another story completely. Most of these girls like to hang out with GOOD LOOKING guys and girls in their own age demographic, just look at their facebook wall. Do you see that guy whos always writing and liking her comments and pictures? Most likely thats the guy she's going out with and banging when your out of the picture. Ask yourself, could I get a girl like this on a regular basis in my own country, if not most likely the girl has an angle. Maybe not blatant but its definitely there. You self proclaimed "casanovas" on here will disagree with me and then we'll have to just agree to DISAGREE because neither if us is changing our minds.
Of course You should take every Colombiana on a case by case basis and your mileage may vary. Take every relationship with a grain of salt and thank the heavens if you ever happen to get on top of them, like I do! LOL Enjoy the moment!
IN COLOMBIA ESPECIALLY: always better to be the cynic, skeptic than the victim pendejo![/QUOTE]I agree with your last sentence whole heartedly. And the rest of your post, not so much. I'm in close contact with girls I have met 10 years ago in Colombia, some 5 years ago, who would marry me in a heartbeat. They haven't lost interest. Regarding these beautiful women wanting to hang out with only GOOD LOOKING guys, well, I disagree. Many, many of the most beautiful colombian women I have known (and seen) have been in relationship with guys that were, well, AVERAGE at best. Colombian men as a whole just aren't that good looking to begin with in my humble opinion. And I do agree that you have to take each with a grain of salt, and your mileage may vary, but isn't that true with ALL women?
[QUOTE=Nino Bravo;1316524]I agree with your last sentence whole heartedly. And the rest of your post, not so much. I'm in close contact with girls I have met 10 years ago in Colombia, some 5 years ago, who would marry me in a heartbeat. They haven't lost interest. Regarding these beautiful women wanting to hang out with only GOOD LOOKING guys, well, I disagree. Many, many of the most beautiful colombian women I have known (and seen) have been in relationship with guys that were, well, AVERAGE at best. Colombian men as a whole just aren't that good looking to begin with in my humble opinion. And I do agree that you have to take each with a grain of salt, and your mileage may vary, but isn't that true with ALL women?[/QUOTE]Didn't say ONLY good looking guys but looks and age demographic are very important to some of these girls and more likely than not she's playing some kind of angle, especially if she is of a higher estrato. I mean what exactly does an old, balding, out of shape gringo speaking spanglish (any combination of these) have to bring to the table anyways that she couldn't get with hanging with Colombianos her own age demographic? If you say well "my girl likes to go and have a nice dinner and then sit at a nice club drinking bottles Old Parr with me" Well then she's playing an angle as subtle as it might sound to you, because chances are she's not going out with her amigos and going to do that all night.
These high estrato girls have MONEY, CARS, spend all of their time in salons, gym, shopping, malls, nice cafe's, restaurants. Are playing 2 or 3 guys at the same time just like we do. These types do not need gringos and probably have more money than you do!
Colombianas are very superficial and come from a very "see and want" attitude. They see something, they want it, if you can't supply it they will find a way to get it period!
Your best bet is to get a humble, self sustaining girl with self dignity! Now the million dollar question is WHERE to find one? You need to be patient and weed through a lot of rotten apples to find that special unblemished "non pro"
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1316547]Didn't say ONLY good looking guys but looks and age demographic are very important to some of these girls and more likely than not she's playing some kind of angle, especially if she is of a higher estrato. I mean what exactly does an old, balding, out of shape gringo speaking spanglish (any combination of these) have to bring to the table anyways that she couldn't get with hanging with Colombianos her own age demographic? If you say well "my girl likes to go and have a nice dinner and then sit at a nice club drinking bottles Old Parr with me" Well then she's playing an angle as subtle as it might sound to you, because chances are she's not going out with her amigos and going to do that all night.
These high estrato girls have MONEY, CARS, spend all of their time in salons, gym, shopping, malls, nice cafe's, restaurants. Are playing 2 or 3 guys at the same time just like we do. These types do not need gringos and probably have more money than you do!
Colombianas are very superficial and come from a very "see and want" attitude. They see something, they want it, if you can't supply it they will find a way to get it period!
Your best bet is to get a humble, self sustaining girl with self dignity! Now the million dollar question is WHERE to find one? You need to be patient and weed through a lot of rotten apples to find that special unblemished "non pro"[/QUOTE]Now, I agree 100% with this post. Well put, especially the last sentence.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1316547]Didn't say ONLY good looking guys but looks and age demographic are very important to some of these girls and more likely than not she's playing some kind of angle, especially if she is of a higher estrato. I mean what exactly does an old, balding, out of shape gringo speaking spanglish (any combination of these) have to bring to the table anyways that she couldn't get with hanging with Colombianos her own age demographic? If you say well "my girl likes to go and have a nice dinner and then sit at a nice club drinking bottles Old Parr with me" Well then she's playing an angle as subtle as it might sound to you, because chances are she's not going out with her amigos and going to do that all night.
These high estrato girls have MONEY, CARS, spend all of their time in salons, gym, shopping, malls, nice cafe's, restaurants. Are playing 2 or 3 guys at the same time just like we do. These types do not need gringos and probably have more money than you do!
Colombianas are very superficial and come from a very "see and want" attitude. They see something, they want it, if you can't supply it they will find a way to get it period!
Your best bet is to get a humble, self sustaining girl with self dignity! Now the million dollar question is WHERE to find one? You need to be patient and weed through a lot of rotten apples to find that special unblemished "non pro"[/QUOTE]AMEN, Amen, Amen
Heat Lover.
And that's why I stick to explicitly pay-for-play when in Colombia or any mongering vacation. Much more honest.
Both sides know what they're getting into. Unless you are there for an extended period of time, chasing non-pros makes no sense (other than to possible boost your ego).
Non-pros are for the USA. My own turf. Pros are for vacation.
Young well edcucted females get a salary, after paying income tax, but with health care security. A private company nurse with 3 years university and 5 years working experience earn 2, 2 milion COP. 1,8 after paying income tax.
A girl with 4 years Univerty and 5 years working experience, supervisor, with pension and health care makes 2. 2 after paying income tax.
I have ordinary work in the social sector, withe the option to work 2 x full time and then have corresping salary. I make, with extrawork, +13 millions COP. 11 million after tax. I work extra since I work 24hs shifts, so even with extrawork, I have 2 days free a week. In this calculation I exclude 2, 5 x salary for overtime, which rise my income to 18 million COP. 13, 66 after income tax.
The good looking high estrada girls who likes to in luxury can't afford a car, shopping, etc. Without some kind of income from a top-level CEO or extranjero or bosses in the still ongoing narco-trafficking.
Paisas says to me that prepagos comes from evry strata of the society, price and envkironment is the only different.
Colombianas, especially paisas, has the highest rates in the world selling sex, without necesarily having to do so. 1/3 of the University students according to a survey recently.
They are semi-pro's. They need, let's 2 million a month to keep up with their friends in clothing, Blackberry, vacacion to San Andrés.
[url]http://www.tusalario.org/colombia/Portada[/url]
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[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1316547]Didn't say ONLY good looking guys but looks and age demographic are very important to some of these girls and more likely than not she's playing some kind of angle, especially if she is of a higher estrato. I mean what exactly does an old, balding, out of shape gringo speaking spanglish (any combination of these) have to bring to the table anyways that she couldn't get with hanging with Colombianos her own age demographic? If you say well "my girl likes to go and have a nice dinner and then sit at a nice club drinking bottles Old Parr with me" Well then she's playing an angle as subtle as it might sound to you, because chances are she's not going out with her amigos and going to do that all night.
These high estrato girls have MONEY, CARS, spend all of their time in salons, gym, shopping, malls, nice cafe's, restaurants. Are playing 2 or 3 guys at the same time just like we do. These types do not need gringos and probably have more money than you do!
Colombianas are very superficial and come from a very "see and want" attitude. They see something, they want it, if you can't supply it they will find a way to get it period!
Your best bet is to get a humble, self sustaining girl with self dignity! Now the million dollar question is WHERE to find one? You need to be patient and weed through a lot of rotten apples to find that special unblemished "non pro"[/QUOTE]
Colombia is a poor country. Strata 1-2 girls with cars, money exist in almost every country. Colombia has the position 108 according to [url]www.cia.gov.[/url] And this a number adjusted for power purchasing parity (PPP)
I have seen the same pattern in other countries.
This girls are among the 5-10. They earn though less what you do- all considered.
I would say 3, 33% are reallly rich and owns the the majority of the countires facories, land and companies, etc. Country. It's a historial pattern since "ever". In most every latinamerican country the pattern is similar.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1316547]Didn't say ONLY good looking guys but looks and age demographic are very important to some of these girls and more likely than not she's playing some kind of angle, especially if she is of a higher estrato. I mean what exactly does an old, balding, out of shape gringo speaking spanglish (any combination of these) have to bring to the table anyways that she couldn't get with hanging with Colombianos her own age demographic? If you say well "my girl likes to go and have a nice dinner and then sit at a nice club drinking bottles Old Parr with me" Well then she's playing an angle as subtle as it might sound to you, because chances are she's not going out with her amigos and going to do that all night.
These high estrato girls have MONEY, CARS, spend all of their time in salons, gym, shopping, malls, nice cafe's, restaurants. Are playing 2 or 3 guys at the same time just like we do. These types do not need gringos and probably have more money than you do!
Colombianas are very superficial and come from a very "see and want" attitude. They see something, they want it, if you can't supply it they will find a way to get it period!
Your best bet is to get a humble, self sustaining girl with self dignity! Now the million dollar question is WHERE to find one? You need to be patient and weed through a lot of rotten apples to find that special unblemished "non pro"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Combo; 1316630]Heat Lover.
And that's why I stick to explicitly pay-for-play when in Colombia or any mongering vacation. Much more honest.
Both sides know what they're getting into. Unless you are there for an extended period of time, chasing non-pros makes no sense (other than to possible boost your ego).
Non-pros are for the USA. My own turf. Pros are for vacation.[/QUOTE]10/10 for this reply. OK, maybe some people will go to Colombia or elsewhere in the hope of finding a soulmate (been there, done that) but most are going for a holiday / on business and want a few shags on the side. I have this planned, albeit that I am just the wrong side of 70! This has never stopped me in the past.
Gali
[QUOTE=Galinsoga; 1316861]10/10 for this reply. OK, maybe some people will go to Colombia or elsewhere in the hope of finding a soulmate (been there, done that) but most are going for a holiday / on business and want a few shags on the side. I have this planned, albeit that I am just the wrong side of 70! This has never stopped me in the past.
Gali[/QUOTE]Age is not important in the P4P game. Really only having money, and the wood to get the job done.
If you are in action on that side of 70, then my hat is off to you.
[QUOTE=Nino Bravo; 1316268]Not sure where you came up with this. The vast majority of Colombian men are out of shape and don't have 6 pack abs, as is true with the vast majority of all men. So according to you, colombian women don't like most men, since most men cannot visibly see all of their ab muscles in the mirror. With all due respect, your statement is pure non-sense.
I do agree that the majority of gringos don't know how to dress (or act for that matter). But on the other hand, many colombian men don't know how to dress either. I was in a club in Bogota a few weeks pack, in a private party in a VIP area. The colombian men dressed very poorly, with most wearing tennis shoes, torn jeans. And I'm not sure if any here notice, but most colombian men in Bogota are just plain ugly. And of course this bodes well for those gringos who travel to Bogota and who are handsome.
A gringo who has style, speaks fluent spanish, has a great personality, has very good possibilities with most women in Colombia. And no, you don't need to have 6 pack abs. LMAO![/QUOTE]Colombian men look better than gringos, by a LONG stretch on average. And men in general are STILL much uglier than women, on average.
I am EXACTLY saying that Colombian women don't like most men, INCLUDING Colombian men, and the vast majority of guy-girl relationships here are purely material based. As a matter of fact, I think the world over, it is that way. Most men are really bad at PHYSICALLY attracting women and have to resort to cash to make up the dif. The average Colombian man is NOT exactly swimming in Colombian pussy by any standard. The majority of men here are stuck jerking off night after night for YEARS, and the best-looking 5% and the richest 5% get ALL the pussy. Nothing new under the sun. And you can talk your way into a woman's pants in Colombia, but it's a tricky and annoying business.
You can look at 'average' behavior of a Colombian man if you don't mind spending all your money just to strike out, which is what most of them do. You can not take care of your body because hardly anybody else does, but then you haven't distinguished yourself.
Anyways my whole point is, if you want to fuck with non-pros here and have the time to invest in it, knock yourself out, but I GUARANTEE you when you add everything up and do a cost-benefit, you will find your peso woulda gone further in the whiskerias. And if you're looking for a serious committed monogamous relationship, I'd say you're in the wrong goddamn UNIVERSE for that sort of thing, but even if you want to be Don Quijote, Colombia should be your LAST choice for that.
I'll go even further, if you've met a girl on Jasmin or Streamate or colombiancupid, or any of those places, there's a good chance one of my close friends or I myself are already deep dicking her on a regular basis, no matter what she tells you! And even if you MOVE to Bogota and THINK you're monitoring her movements 24/7 she will FIND a way to sneak out and get her some of the variety she craves. And that goes for you even IF you have an EIGHT pack, speak 10 languages, are a champion salsa dancer and have millions in the bank. Colombian women like strange dick. PERIOD!
Welcome to Colombia, but check your delusions at the door.
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Oh, and STOP thinking that girls in the top 2 estratos in Colombia are immune to being gold-diggers. The average Estrato 2 girl doesn't care as much about money, because she typically still lives with her family and even if she doesn't bring in a peso, she still eats. The girl living in an Estrato 6 neighborhoos OTOH typically lives beyond her means and is desparately in debt trying to keep up appearances, and CONSTANTLY giving attention to men to help her balance the books!
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1316924]Colombian men look better than gringos, by a LONG stretch on average. And men in general are STILL much uglier than women, on average.
I am EXACTLY saying that Colombian women don't like most men, INCLUDING Colombian men, and the vast majority of guy-girl relationships here are purely material based. As a matter of fact, I think the world over, it is that way. Most men are really bad at PHYSICALLY attracting women and have to resort to cash to make up the dif. The average Colombian man is NOT exactly swimming in Colombian pussy by any standard. The majority of men here are stuck jerking off night after night for YEARS, and the best-looking 5% and the richest 5% get ALL the pussy. Nothing new under the sun. And you can talk your way into a woman's pants in Colombia, but it's a tricky and annoying business.
You can look at 'average' behavior of a Colombian man if you don't mind spending all your money just to strike out, which is what most of them do. You can not take care of your body because hardly anybody else does, but then you haven't distinguished yourself.
Anyways my whole point is, if you want to fuck with non-pros here and have the time to invest in it, knock yourself out, but I GUARANTEE you when you add everything up and do a cost-benefit, you will find your peso woulda gone further in the whiskerias. And if you're looking for a serious committed monogamous relationship, I'd say you're in the wrong goddamn UNIVERSE for that sort of thing, but even if you want to be Don Quijote, Colombia should be your LAST choice for that.
I'll go even further, if you've met a girl on Jasmin or Streamate or colombiancupid, or any of those places, there's a good chance one of my close friends or I myself are already deep dicking her on a regular basis, no matter what she tells you! And even if you MOVE to Bogota and THINK you're monitoring her movements 24/7 she will FIND a way to sneak out and get her some of the variety she craves. And that goes for you even IF you have an EIGHT pack, speak 10 languages, are a champion salsa dancer and have millions in the bank. Colombian women like strange dick. PERIOD!
Welcome to Colombia, but check your delusions at the door.[/QUOTE]Wow, for one of the few times in my life, I'm at a loss for words.
[QUOTE=Kelso1; 1316895]Age is not important in the P4P game. Really only having money, and the wood to get the job done.
If you are in action on that side of 70, then my hat is off to you.[/QUOTE]Most definitely still in action. The local (UK) ladies and the wife (Colombian. 25 years younger) would concur. There are limitations of course ie just "one shot" a day these days and it is anyway a blank due to the enlarged prostate problem (all the sensations but no ejaculation) that will catch up with ALL of you eventually. The local Oriental ladies do however have a way of stimulating the prostate. Very pleasant.
Gali
Lots of Italian and Europeans. In the beaches. Great weather.
Went to Playa Hollywood yesterday. Today is a holiday again.
Be glad to show anyone around that doesn't know the city.
I am a former us resident. Now living in Cartagena. You can contact me using the private message system if you need any help.
Regards,
Nicolas
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Hey folks,
It's been awhile since I've checked in with the forums. Some interesting recent comments here, with grains of truth in all of them, but also distortions and exaggerations by certain posters.
The main point I want to contribute, or rather remind, is that you guys are simply going to have to do some homework and old-fashioned trial-and-error to find out what works best for you. Because what works great for Ricker or MHL might not work for you at all. Or take someone like Bango Cheito who has some useful comments and observations, but his situation is very unique as an expat musician (and musicians are lucky because of the groupie effect) living and working in BOG, which has certain sectors that have been infested with gringos for years now (due to Plan Colombia and of course, this is the business, political, and cultural center of the country).
Get out of those areas and you can still find colombianas that have never dated a gringo or talked to one, not even online, LOL. Those are the ones you need to find, not the jaded ones that hang out or work in certain chic or tourist-heavy parts of Bogota and Medellin. You might think this corny, but I'll bet you will experience a whole other Colombia (some might even dare to say the real Colombia) outside the teeming cities of BOG & MDE.
There's just one statement that bugs me. At least for me, I don't agree 100% with the statement that "if you don't have game in the states, you won't have any in Colombia." Maybe I'm a strange exception, but I can't possibly be the only one who feels more confident, more relaxed with women once you get off the plane and start speaking in Spanish 99% of the time. Maybe it's the language switch combined with the "adventure" of travel, it's like you adopt another identity. I've never had problems meeting non-pros, in fact, my problem is usually there's too many to juggle, LOL! For me, there's something about latinas that just feels comfortable and right (I've been around them my whole life starting with mom so that has something to do with it I guess) ; and it's just a fantastic feeling to be "at the source" so to speak. And once you've been bitten by the Latin bug, there's no going back to the gringas, even the half-baked latinas you find here in the states don't really cut it for me anymore. Maybe it's just the "magic" or "romance of travel" but I've had a good number of positive experiences outside the states and I suspect there are some other guys out there who have a similar pattern, I can't be the only one!
So I personally wouldn't want to discourage a guy from trying Colombia just because he isn't a casanova in the states. Just the different environment might give a guy a chance to play at being something he's usually not, grow another part of his personality; travel sometimes has this effect. Of course, language is the most important skill, I had that built-in already so maybe that's why my case is somewhat unique.
[QUOTE=Phunluv; 1318688]Hey folks,
It's been awhile since I've checked in with the forums. Some interesting recent comments here, with grains of truth in all of them, but also distortions and exaggerations by certain posters.
The main point I want to contribute, or rather remind, is that you guys are simply going to have to do some homework and old-fashioned trial-and-error to find out what works best for you. Because what works great for Ricker or MHL might not work for you at all. Or take someone like Bango Cheito who has some useful comments and observations, but his situation is very unique as an expat musician (and musicians are lucky because of the groupie effect) living and working in BOG, which has certain sectors that have been infested with gringos for years now (due to Plan Colombia and of course, this is the business, political, and cultural center of the country).
Get out of those areas and you can still find colombianas that have never dated a gringo or talked to one, not even online, LOL. Those are the ones you need to find, not the jaded ones that hang out or work in certain chic or tourist-heavy parts of Bogota and Medellin. You might think this corny, but I'll bet you will experience a whole other Colombia (some might even dare to say the real Colombia) outside the teeming cities of BOG & MDE.
There's just one statement that bugs me. At least for me, I don't agree 100% with the statement that "if you don't have game in the states, you won't have any in Colombia." Maybe I'm a strange exception, but I can't possibly be the only one who feels more confident, more relaxed with women once you get off the plane and start speaking in Spanish 99% of the time. Maybe it's the language switch combined with the "adventure" of travel, it's like you adopt another identity. I've never had problems meeting non-pros, in fact, my problem is usually there's too many to juggle, LOL! For me, there's something about latinas that just feels comfortable and right (I've been around them my whole life starting with mom so that has something to do with it I guess) ; and it's just a fantastic feeling to be "at the source" so to speak. And once you've been bitten by the Latin bug, there's no going back to the gringas, even the half-baked latinas you find here in the states don't really cut it for me anymore. Maybe it's just the "magic" or "romance of travel" but I've had a good number of positive experiences outside the states and I suspect there are some other guys out there who have a similar pattern, I can't be the only one!
So I personally wouldn't want to discourage a guy from trying Colombia just because he isn't a casanova in the states. Just the different environment might give a guy a chance to play at being something he's usually not, grow another part of his personality; travel sometimes has this effect. Of course, language is the most important skill, I had that built-in already so maybe that's why my case is somewhat unique.[/QUOTE]Agree. 100 percent.
Obviously the latinas all over South America are just more culturally cariņosa and open, in general, than the gringa.
Like you said, one has to find what works best for them.
Some guys have the gift of the silver tongue, some the gift of dance, music, GQ dressing, great looks, humor, etc, etc.
Of course you'll use these tools that work best for you personally.
Like you, I believe "the game" you must have in the US is not the same as what's required in latin America, because really, the game with the girls itself is different.
This has always been my experience anyway.
Did not know that there are so many economists and psychologist on this forum.
Colombia is fun period.
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1318814]Agree. 100 percent.
Obviously the latinas all over South America are just more culturally cariņosa and open, in general, than the gringa.
Like you said, one has to find what works best for them.
Some guys have the gift of the silver tongue, some the gift of dance, music, GQ dressing, great looks, humor, etc, etc.
Of course you'll use these tools that work best for you personally.
Like you, I believe "the game" you must have in the US is not the same as what's required in latin America, because really, the game with the girls itself is different.
This has always been my experience anyway.[/QUOTE]You DO need to treat people differently here. That goes for business as well as pleasure. Typically acceptable American behavior is considered really rude here. You have to be really flowery with the women, even if it's totally understood it's just a one-night stand.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito;1319938]You DO need to treat people differently here. That goes for business as well as pleasure. Typically acceptable American behavior is considered really rude here. You have to be really flowery with the women, even if it's totally understood it's just a one-night stand.[/QUOTE]I have a few buddies who run businesses in Colombia and form what they say some of the typical Colombia business practices are best described as rude and criminal ish!
Best advice to ALL guy with ALL types of girls in South America, Smile and be polite to the girls, do not come off as cheap, and you'll be all set.
Does anyone know how to upload a short video. Please no RTFF reply's a search on either 'video' or 'upload' returns to many search results.
Wreckdiver
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1319969]I have a few buddies who run businesses in Colombia and form what they say some of the typical Colombia business practices are best described as rude and criminal ish!
Best advice to ALL guy with ALL types of girls in South America, Smile and be polite to the girls, do not come off as cheap, and you'll be all set.[/QUOTE]They may rob you blind, but they'll be polite about it :P
Speaking of business, what items are easy to transport and sell with a good Return On Investment for a short visit to Colombia?
It would be great if I could offset my expenses. I'm not talking megabucks here I'm just saying it would be nice to cover the cost of my hotel or ehem, whatever.
(Once on a work trip to another destination, a guy said he'd give me $20 if I brought him back a box of hostess ring dings. I brought him the ring dings but refused the money. Don't get me wrong, I'm not tryign to say I'm a nice guy or anything because later I wished I accepted his measly 20 being that we were never able to create that "working bond" in spite of my ring ding generosity. Hehe)
Anyway, since I spend most of my time with females on these visits, I was thinking, stockings / lingerie. (One size fits all, lightweight kind of items but this barely seems worth it considerring how much effort I would have to make for 100 bucks even if I enlisted a "sales representative")
Perfume? (paisas know the difference of bootleg perfume and how do you explain 10 bottles in your luggage)
I noticed planters peanuts are like 5 times as expensive in Colombia but um. Thats not going to work at all.
I was considerring packing 4 or 5 mid to low end computer tablets (coby, google) since this seems to be the latest technology craze here in the states and give or take 50 bucks gain per piece would be acceptable to me or some small pocket digital cameras. But for all I know they already have the same brands available at Exito or Carafour.
(Maybe it goes with out saying but the challenge is being able to buy these items used or wholesale to maximise gains)
Come on guys, someone must have some good suggestions to share. Its not like I or anyone here is going to get into a turf war over this. OR maybe I should think the other way around. Bringing something from Colombia to the US?
Thanks
Hola Hasideas Tao. Its been a while since we met at Hooters in Poblado and had a few bears.
I've often thought about bringing Colombian leather works, crafts and woodworks back to California and try to peddle them off. Would anyone buy it?
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1321175]Speaking of business, what items are easy to transport and sell with a good Return On Investment for a short visit to Colombia?
It would be great if I could offset my expenses. I'm not talking megabucks here I'm just saying it would be nice to cover the cost of my hotel or ehem, whatever.
(Once on a work trip to another destination, a guy said he'd give me $20 if I brought him back a box of hostess ring dings. I brought him the ring dings but refused the money. Don't get me wrong, I'm not tryign to say I'm a nice guy or anything because later I wished I accepted his measly 20 being that we were never able to create that "working bond" in spite of my ring ding generosity. Hehe)
Anyway, since I spend most of my time with females on these visits, I was thinking, stockings / lingerie. (One size fits all, lightweight kind of items but this barely seems worth it considerring how much effort I would have to make for 100 bucks even if I enlisted a "sales representative")
Perfume? (paisas know the difference of bootleg perfume and how do you explain 10 bottles in your luggage)
I noticed planters peanuts are like 5 times as expensive in Colombia but um. Thats not going to work at all.
I was considerring packing 4 or 5 mid to low end computer tablets (coby, google) since this seems to be the latest technology craze here in the states and give or take 50 bucks gain per piece would be acceptable to me or some small pocket digital cameras. But for all I know they already have the same brands available at Exito or Carafour.
(Maybe it goes with out saying but the challenge is being able to buy these items used or wholesale to maximise gains)
Come on guys, someone must have some good suggestions to share. Its not like I or anyone here is going to get into a turf war over this. OR maybe I should think the other way around. Bringing something from Colombia to the US?
Thanks[/QUOTE]To cover the cost of my checked bag I bring one cartoon of cigs back to the US. I know it is not much, but you asked for sugestions.
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1321175]Speaking of business, what items are easy to transport and sell with a good Return On Investment for a short visit to Colombia?
It would be great if I could offset my expenses. I'm not talking megabucks here I'm just saying it would be nice to cover the cost of my hotel or ehem, whatever.
(Once on a work trip to another destination, a guy said he'd give me $20 if I brought him back a box of hostess ring dings. I brought him the ring dings but refused the money. Don't get me wrong, I'm not tryign to say I'm a nice guy or anything because later I wished I accepted his measly 20 being that we were never able to create that "working bond" in spite of my ring ding generosity. Hehe)
Anyway, since I spend most of my time with females on these visits, I was thinking, stockings / lingerie. (One size fits all, lightweight kind of items but this barely seems worth it considerring how much effort I would have to make for 100 bucks even if I enlisted a "sales representative")
Perfume? (paisas know the difference of bootleg perfume and how do you explain 10 bottles in your luggage)
I noticed planters peanuts are like 5 times as expensive in Colombia but um. Thats not going to work at all.
I was considerring packing 4 or 5 mid to low end computer tablets (coby, google) since this seems to be the latest technology craze here in the states and give or take 50 bucks gain per piece would be acceptable to me or some small pocket digital cameras. But for all I know they already have the same brands available at Exito or Carafour.
(Maybe it goes with out saying but the challenge is being able to buy these items used or wholesale to maximise gains)
Come on guys, someone must have some good suggestions to share. Its not like I or anyone here is going to get into a turf war over this. OR maybe I should think the other way around. Bringing something from Colombia to the US?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I am no expert but pretty much ANYTHING other than pussy is super expensive in Colombia (due to taxes I would imagine). I got my girlfriend a curling iron and blow dryer for her job and when they rang me up it was almost $100 USD! $20 at Target USA or Walmart!
As for 10x anything. They are for my girlfriend and her sister and aunts. End of that chat. Well that's what I"ve said and they just moved me on.
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1321175]Its not like I or anyone here is going to get into a turf war over this. OR maybe I should think the other way around. Bringing something from Colombia to the US?[/QUOTE]Ding! You got it! For every $800 that you spend in CO you could bring in $17000 in the states. But don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1319969]I have a few buddies who run businesses in Colombia and form what they say some of the typical Colombia business practices are best described as rude and criminal ish!
Best advice to ALL guy with ALL types of girls in South America, Smile and be polite to the girls, do not come off as cheap, and you'll be all set.[/QUOTE]This is good advice for any mongering destination but not all humans are alike. The interesting thing is a (really) high percentage of mongers put the squeeze on Lincoln, I / e there are a lot of cheap, tight wad, penny pinching (Lincoln) , mongers out there. I used to fight them but now I realized this is their nature and it is not changeable from the outside. We are meant to be different, one side enhances the other and it is all good, BUT, treat the ladies w / respect so the beauty of it all continues.
The troubles here in the Colombian Thread (hopefully over with) are unusual to me. I bounce between the Philippine and Colombian forums and the former forum is a positive place for the most part. All the main posters there ALWAYS post pics and give insight to the local terrain. Here in the Colombian thread lately it is 3 or 4 guys ganging up (to ridicule) one guy, or 3 or 4 guys back slapping one another for basically nothing. The main guys here are just (for lack of a better word) boring. I don't think thousands of post here or on any other forum (for that matter) makes anyone special, conversely it makes me think you have no life. I have known for a while that posting and being a part of ISG (or other sites) is an addiction of sorts, nothing to be proud of in my view. Some of us want to help others, or brag about what we did, or what we have, and how we can help you get it. Whatever. Pics and TR's is where it's at, period.
I hope and think (going forward) EVERYONE here should be posting pics (IN THE PG) and sharing good intel.
Lets stop the wasted energy. Apply your frustrations away from here, come full circle or shut up. Post pics and good information. If someone is too this or too that so be it, leave them alone. But if they degrade the game then lay into them. You don't like it here, then leave, say your piece and go, it's not hard (to leave) unless your a wimp.
One last thing. I am a defender of the working girls worldwide. Why? Because I want to fuck, suck and laugh w / all of them. I want to kick back someday and talk pussy and smoke a killer cigar w / my fellow pussy lovers. Is it too much of me to ask that the rest of you respect the pussy? Half (of us) already do but the macho ones, you know, gods gift to us all, think it's all about them. I'm not a follower I'm a leader types need to take a deep breath and relax. The macho guys alway use the,"he's a captain save a ho" or MHL would say a Kimbaya guy. Nobody here or on any other forum has the anti PC credentials I have, I blow most others away. I stand up for the working girls because they have a right to feel good about themselves. They are not able to access this site and defend themselves against the ignorant shit said about them here. And lastly because I was taught not to shit where I eat, NEVER! Before you criticize someone, step in their shoes, could you do it better? If not than shut TFU.
The criminal types that have come out from under the rocks (here) lately and are now gone is a real good thing. It seems Colombian Women bring out a different type of monger. Thank you Jackson, your garbage disposal is working nicely, keep it ready for the next disrespectful shitheads. In 10 days I'm in Medellin and I will fucking enjoy EVERY SQUARE INCH OF IT! All The Freaking Best God Damn It. Jeje.
Pics and TR to follow.
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
Like I said, it would be nice to cover some expenses. It's not like I drop tons of cash. So, with a little knowledge, planning and experience, it seems to me like I could deeply discount the trip and at least enhance the fun!
I really don't understand how I could spend $800 in Colombia and convert that into $17000 (I think you mean $1700) in the states. Enlighten me.
Can anyone easily reference the "transport of goods" regulations and limits for the benefit of this forum?
On the trip home:
I could definitely trade a carton of cigarettes within minutes of landing back in the states. Good one.
Leather goods and handmade stuff. Sounds tricky. Maybe if I knew someone with some kind of hand made ethnic or import specialty store. Which as a matter of fact, I just thought of a shop and maybe I can make a deal with them.
On the way down:
Curling iron idea and beauty appliances in general I think are also good ideas. I think a stop at Walmart may be in order.
Whenever I ask a girl what she wants, I usually hear "perfume, cream and electronics" I realize most perfumes are upwards of $50 a bottle and I know a great discount place with the real deal in NYC. Anyone know a web site in CO where I could research their prices?
It's been said they go crazy for Victoria Secret stuff but IMO, VS is way over price for the quality and seems like thats the kind of thing you gift or trade.
Also, there seems to be no limit on what a Paisa will pay for designer jeans. Any thoughts on that?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1322015]Thanks for the suggestions guys.
Like I said, it would be nice to cover some expenses. It's not like I drop tons of cash. So, with a little knowledge, planning and experience, it seems to me like I could deeply discount the trip and at least enhance the fun!
I really don't understand how I could spend $800 in Colombia and convert that into $17000 (I think you mean $1700) in the states. Enlighten me.
Can anyone easily reference the "transport of goods" regulations and limits for the benefit of this forum?
On the trip home:
I could definitely trade a carton of cigarettes within minutes of landing back in the states. Good one.
Leather goods and handmade stuff. Sounds tricky. Maybe if I knew someone with some kind of hand made ethnic or import specialty store. Which as a matter of fact, I just thought of a shop and maybe I can make a deal with them.
On the way down:
Curling iron idea and beauty appliances in general I think are also good ideas. I think a stop at Walmart may be in order.
Whenever I ask a girl what she wants, I usually hear "perfume, cream and electronics" I realize most perfumes are upwards of $50 a bottle and I know a great discount place with the real deal in NYC. Anyone know a web site in CO where I could research their prices?
It's been said they go crazy for Victoria Secret stuff but IMO, VS is way over price for the quality and seems like thats the kind of thing you gift or trade.
Also, there seems to be no limit on what a Paisa will pay for designer jeans. Any thoughts on that?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Hasideas, you need to get out more often if you don't know what you can buy in Colombia and resell in the USA for huge profits. Nose candy. Please, if the thought of doing this even crosses your mind go out and rent the movie "Midnight Express" and it will change your mind.
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[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao;1322015]It's been said they go crazy for Victoria Secret stuff but IMO, VS is way over price for the quality and seems like thats the kind of thing you gift or trade.[/QUOTE]Would have been a nice idea if you could have bought a shit load over in bulk around 10 years ago, now it's very old hat! Every girl I know has some or sells some. Too much gringo interaction.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1322049]Would have been a nice idea if you could have bought a shit load over in bulk around 10 years ago, now it's very old hat! Every girl I know has some or sells some. Too much gringo interaction.[/QUOTE]I met a young guy on a flight from MIA-BOG once that claimed he made a decent buck by muling over a couple of large suitcases crammed with Levi Jeans. I also know a guy who still brings over a ton of VS stuff and he claims his novia unloads all he can carry in just a couple weeks. I think the reason for this is she isn't selling it to people in the immediate city of Medellin, they live in a pueblo just outside Medellin.
Personally I couldn't be bothered with the bullshit that almost certainly comes with trying to do something like that. My novia in Manizales and several friends ask me why I don't do something like this every time I come, their concept of making good money and my concept of making good money are light years apart and they just don't understand it.
My ex and I tried that back in 2006 with a suitcase full of Victoria's. The people were all excited but when they actually saw the merch, they didn't like the quality and those that we were stupid enough not to get money up front from didn't want to pay us. We barely broke even.
If you know where to look here in Bogota you don't pay extra for ANYTHING. Markups in upscale Colombian neighborhoods are INSANE. Sometimes you can even get shit for cheaper than what you'd pay in the US!
And Colombian leather is difficult to sell out of Colombia because it's really not competitive outside the country for quality / price.
I gave up on all that years ago.
It has occured to me that many Guapas have one or more best photos taken at a hotel or love motel room.
My experience is that is a strong indicator for her to be a prepago, but no garantee of course.
It's easy to see, on the walls, the bed etc. That it is in a hotel.
This is my personal reflexion surfing the Cupid-sites since 2007.
I have also reflected over that many Guapas are on this site very long time, while it would take a few days to find a willing and for her long term interestes adequate gringo or Europeo.
Cupid, eventually has become sites for prepagos, escorts and scammers. One should demand verification, which now are an option, from the girl you are communicating with.
I've got an extra IPhone 3G through ATT. Can this be used in Medellin with a new sim card with Comcel or another local provider. Any recommendation when I can get the phone modified to use there?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1326796]I've got an extra IPhone 3G through ATT. Can this be used in Medellin with a new sim card with Comcel or another local provider. Any recommendation when I can get the phone modified to use there?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I assume since this is an IPhone 3G you have fulfilled your contract with ATT. If this is the case, go here, read the conditions, check the box, fill out the details, and ATT will send you the unlock code in about a week. This is the "legit" way to do it.
[url]https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/client/en_US/[/url]
Another option is to look on craigslist for unlocking or jailbreaking service. Under "electronics".
Personally, I turn off all data on my IPhone when I arrive in Colombia. If you use data or location services on your ATT there, your bill will be uh. Breathtaking when you return home. I leave my IPhone in the hotel safe, use the hotel wi-fi to use skype to return calls back to the USA.
I don't want my IPhone to be bait for ladrones, so I buy a cheap basic phone in Colombia, to call my Colombia contacts. I keep too much valuable info on my phone, and don't want to call any unwanted attention to myself.
Hope this helps! Cheers!
Do it the legit way as OD has stated. A lot of times when you jail break the phones they never work right again. I use the same phone (AT&T 3G iPhone) for overseas use. My cousin gave it to me but he had jail broken it. In the DR it always works fine, but when I use it in Peru and Thailand it sporadically says "No SIM", then I have to reboot the phone until the next episode. In Peru they couldn't figure it out. They even replaced some of the contacts that connect to the SIM. In Thailand he said it was probably due to that Cydia program that was on it before.
[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1326796]I've got an extra IPhone 3G through ATT. Can this be used in Medellin with a new sim card with Comcel or another local provider. Any recommendation when I can get the phone modified to use there?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I agree with the other two. Absolutely do it the legit way. Since it is 3G phone I am sure it is more than 2 yrs old. If that is the case and If you are currently in the US, take it to any ATT store and they will unlock it for you in minutes for free. You can then use it anywhere they have GSM, which is in of the most of the world.
I went into a pharmacy here in Cali and asked for Generic Viagra (Sildenafil). I was surprised when the pharmacist told me that its on sale for 1, 200 Col. Pesos per tablet. 50 mil. Each. Usually it goes for 2, 000 pesos. So I bought some. Thats 65c per, pretty darn cheap.
By the way, its not for me, but a friend of mine in California.
[QUOTE=BayBoy;1327011]By the way, its not for me, but a friend of mine in California.[/QUOTE]That's really funny, I always say that too to the woman working in the pharmacy.
Check this Thread.
[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?6937-2012-Elections-in-the-USA&p=426380&viewfull=1#post426380[/url]
Anyone have any idea how I can buy an unlocked cellphone in the states and a SIM with cell service in Colombia?
Another question is, how hard would it be to get to Manizales from Bogota? Or it is preferable to do from Medellin?
[QUOTE=Monger#77;1330102]Anyone have any idea how I can buy an unlocked cellphone in the states and a SIM with cell service in Colombia?[/QUOTE]This other thread has the information you want :
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2914-Using-cellphones-in-Colombia][b]Using cellphones in Colombia[/b][/url]
[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1327560]Check this Thread.
[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?6937-2012-Elections-in-the-USA&p=426380&viewfull=1#post426380[/url][/QUOTE]Aaargh! We should keep the cage fighting in the cage IMHO and not wander over here to the Colombia thread.
I bought a Motorola quad band on Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles. It costed me about $100. No questions asked. Outside the USA they will ask for your passport.
[url]http://www.myworldphone.com/[/url]
Buy an unlocked quad band phone thru these guys. Buy a SIM in Colombia and you are ready to talk or text.
[QUOTE=Monger#77; 1330102]Anyone have any idea how I can buy an unlocked cellphone in the states and a SIM with cell service in Colombia?
Another question is, how hard would it be to get to Manizales from Bogota? Or it is preferable to do from Medellin?[/QUOTE]
Is it correct that the toursit VISA is 60 days and that I have to get a prolongation at the DAS-office in Bogota? I happen to have 72 days free. Can I travel to Ecuador or Panama or Venezuela and then re-enter Colombia in a few days and have another 60 days?
Greatful for help on this issue.
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1330706]Is it correct that the toursit VISA is 60 days and that I have to get a prolongation at the DAS-office in Bogota? I happen to have 72 days free. Can I travel to Ecuador or Panama or Venezuela and then re-enter Colombia in a few days and have another 60 days?
Greatful for help on this issue.[/QUOTE]Provided that you are from a country (for example USA) exempt from visa requirements for tourist visits, you can stay up to 90 days in the Colombia. However you are only exempt from the exit tax (impuesto se salida) if you stay less than 60 days (or less than 180 days if you are a Colombian with residence in a foreign country).
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1330706]Is it correct that the toursit VISA is 60 days and that I have to get a prolongation at the DAS-office in Bogota? I happen to have 72 days free. Can I travel to Ecuador or Panama or Venezuela and then re-enter Colombia in a few days and have another 60 days?
Greatful for help on this issue.[/QUOTE]Two years ago I was in Colombia for 66 days. I had to go to the MDE DAS to get a visa extension. They made me jump thru many hoops for three days till I got my stamp. Then at the airport they charged me again the same price as DAS did in MDE. Things may have changed, and you can stay over 60 days now, but if I was away for over 60 days I would either go to Panama or Equador before the 60 days was up, and then return for a fresh time period. I wrote a post back in 2010 explaining the DAS nightmare I endured.
I also heard that DAS is either disbanded or somehow changed. No matter what if I were you I would not spend 72 days in Colombia. That is to long for me, and I love the Country.
I am native speaker fluent in reading, writing and speaking Spanish, so language is no barrier for me when visiting a Spanish speaking country.
I have been to the Dominican Republic more than 15 times since April of 2008 and I like it very much. However, I am very curious about Colombia and would like to hear from people who have been to both places (DR & Col.) in order to get an idea as to whether Colombia is as good, better, or worse than the DR for meeting women.
Are the women as easy to meet as in the DR? In the DR you can meet them on buses, stores, restaurants, the street, etc. Of course I'm talking from the perspective of someone who's fluent is Spanish, if one is not it might not be as easy.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, and I'll be more than happy to give advice about the DR, as I now have many connections there due to my numerous visits. I also have residency there and I've been all over the country.
Thanks John Gault.
I came over this info :
[url]http://www.colombia.travel/es/turista-internacional/informacion-practica/viajar-a-colombia-informacion-y-consejos/antes-de-venir/visas-y-permisos[/url]
No existe restriccióand de nacionalidades para el ingreso a Colombia. Se requiere visa salvo para nacionales de los siguientes países que permanezcan un máximo de 90 theías en territorio colombiano con fines exclusivamente turísticos: Argentina, Austria, Barbados, Bélgica, Brasil, Canadá, Costa Rica, Chile, Dinamarca, Ecuador, El Salvador, Espaņa, Estados Unidos, Finlandia, Francia, Gran Bretaņa, Guatemala, Italia, Japóand, Liechtenstein, Luxemburgo, México, Noruega, Países Bajos, Perú, Polonia, República de Corea (Corea del Sur) , Alemania, Suecia, Suiza, Trinidad why Tobago, Uruguay, Venezuela why residentes extranjeros de Canadá why Estados Unidos.
I have now sent emails to Colombias Emabssy in Sweden and Swedens Embassy in Bogota and Consulate in Medellin. If the limit is 90 days it is good for us tourists, but I need a conformation, I remember that it was 60 days in 2009.
I will also ask those institutes to clearify if one get 60/90 new days if one leave and re-enter Colombia.
I will be back with info.
Help on this issues are welcomed.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1330970]Two years ago I was in Colombia for 66 days. I had to go to the MDE DAS to get a visa extension. They made me jump thru many hoops for three days till I got my stamp. Then at the airport they charged me again the same price as DAS did in MDE. Things may have changed, and you can stay over 60 days now, but if I was away for over 60 days I would either go to Panama or Equador before the 60 days was up, and then return for a fresh time period. I wrote a post back in 2010 explaining the DAS nightmare I endured.
I also heard that DAS is either disbanded or somehow changed. No matter what if I were you I would not spend 72 days in Colombia. That is to long for me, and I love the Country.[/QUOTE]
Receive a cordial greeting.
Responding to your concerns.
First, according to the circumstances that pointed out, citizens carriers of Swedish passport valid may be in Colombian territory a maximum of one hundred and eighty (180) days, continuous or discontinuous, during the same calendar year (2012).
Second, the normal procedure that applies to any tourist upon arrival is authorize their initial entrance up to ninety (90) days. This period can be extended by filing an application for extension, before expiration of the period originally authorized, before the migration office nearest Colombia (Old Administrative Security Department D. A. S). Migration Colombia has offices in all capital cities of department).
Third, if your entrance allowed to Colombia are sixty (60) days, I recommend that before the end of the term is closer to an office of Migration Colombia, to request an extension.
Hopes this helpes
Hello fellow mongers. Used to be on this site back in 08,
Took a hiatus, lost my password, forgot my username, and now the monger in me has awoken. I'm back, but I have some questions?
I'm really wanting to check out Medellin and Bogota. (never been). Reading all the great stories on this site, combined with my fondness of sweet latina pussy, I'm ready to dive in!
But gentleman, I got to tell ya, I've been doing some recon over at latinamericancupid. Com along with the colombiancupid. Com sites, and to be honest, I'm really not super impressed with the ladies on these sites.
Please tell me that these are the C list girls, because if they are not, I'm going to be really dissappointed.
Keep in mind, I love latinas, I've dated them all my life, but I must know. Are the women in Medellin really as hot as everyone claims they are?
I've met gorgeous colombian pussies in Miami, so I know they are out there, but I just need some reassurance that the ladies are as hot as everyone hypes them up to be.
I've seen the pics on ISG, and there are some lookers, but I'm really wanting some prime time pussy when I get out there. Life is too short, and I don't get out of the states very often, So I'm looking to fuck nothing less that an 8.
Give me some reassurance guys!
Average Colombianas look worse than the Cupid, or whatever, chicas.
[QUOTE=ElDirtyGringo; 1337125]Hello fellow mongers. Used to be on this site back in 08,
Took a hiatus, lost my password, forgot my username, and now the monger in me has awoken. I'm back, but I have some questions?
I'm really wanting to check out Medellin and Bogota. (never been). Reading all the great stories on this site, combined with my fondness of sweet latina pussy, I'm ready to dive in!
But gentleman, I got to tell ya, I've been doing some recon over at latinamericancupid. Com along with the colombiancupid. Com sites, and to be honest, I'm really not super impressed with the ladies on these sites.
Please tell me that these are the C list girls, because if they are not, I'm going to be really dissappointed.
Keep in mind, I love latinas, I've dated them all my life, but I must know. Are the women in Medellin really as hot as everyone claims they are?
I've met gorgeous colombian pussies in Miami, so I know they are out there, but I just need some reassurance that the ladies are as hot as everyone hypes them up to be.
I've seen the pics on ISG, and there are some lookers, but I'm really wanting some prime time pussy when I get out there. Life is too short, and I don't get out of the states very often, So I'm looking to fuck nothing less that an 8.
Give me some reassurance guys![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ElDirtyGringo; 1337125]. I've met gorgeous colombian pussies in Miami, so I know they are out there, but I just need some reassurance that the ladies are as hot as everyone hypes them up to be.
I've seen the pics on ISG, and there are some lookers, but I'm really wanting some prime time pussy when I get out there. Life is too short, and I don't get out of the states very often, So I'm looking to fuck nothing less that an 8.
Give me some reassurance guys![/QUOTE]It's all hype.
Stick to the Miami strip clubs, that's where you'll find the real hotties.
I've been hanging in Colombia for about 15 years, haven't seen one to brag about yet.
Hmmmmm
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1337469]It's all hype.
Stick to the Miami strip clubs, that's where you'll find the real hotties.
I've been hanging in Colombia for about 15 years, haven't seen one to brag about yet.
Hmmmmm[/QUOTE]Yeah, the same with me Ricker. Damn this DirtyGringo must be quite the catch to be so picky. Wonder what those ugly Colombian girls on the cupid websites say when they see HIS pictures? LMAO!
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1337469]It's all hype.
Stick to the Miami strip clubs, that's where you'll find the real hotties.
I've been hanging in Colombia for about 15 years, haven't seen one to brag about yet.
Hmmmmm[/QUOTE]They all want reassurance. Really what can you say to that? This is almost as bad as the constant begging for a Help type club in Medellin.
As far as the beauty of the Colombian women I have to agree with you that the pickens are slim indeed. This fellow should just stick to Tootsie's in Miami.
I been to Colombia a few times and I can't recommend it if your looking for really hot women. They just arent there. I wish I could be of more help to tell you where to find the hot chics but I haven't found that place yet. But its definitely not Colombia.
[QUOTE=ElDirtyGringo; 1337125]Hello fellow mongers. Used to be on this site back in 08,
Took a hiatus, lost my password, forgot my username, and now the monger in me has awoken. I'm back, but I have some questions?
I'm really wanting to check out Medellin and Bogota. (never been). Reading all the great stories on this site, combined with my fondness of sweet latina pussy, I'm ready to dive in!
But gentleman, I got to tell ya, I've been doing some recon over at latinamericancupid. Com along with the colombiancupid. Com sites, and to be honest, I'm really not super impressed with the ladies on these sites.
Please tell me that these are the C list girls, because if they are not, I'm going to be really dissappointed.
Keep in mind, I love latinas, I've dated them all my life, but I must know. Are the women in Medellin really as hot as everyone claims they are?
I've met gorgeous colombian pussies in Miami, so I know they are out there, but I just need some reassurance that the ladies are as hot as everyone hypes them up to be.
I've seen the pics on ISG, and there are some lookers, but I'm really wanting some prime time pussy when I get out there. Life is too short, and I don't get out of the states very often, So I'm looking to fuck nothing less that an 8.
Give me some reassurance guys![/QUOTE]
I must have such bad taste since I adore Colombianas and their sister in Venezuela. Well, less competition then.
I would recommend culioneros.com produced by BangBros.
I wonder if you mongers also likes this site and if we could give bangbros signales that they have a market. This site is a treasure, Colombin porno, or from any other latin country is hard to find, except Brasil.
It is great substitute while working in Sex-Prison.
gentlemen,
in regards to my last post about the colombian pussies being the real deal. i appreciate every ones input. i guess the old saying "the grass is greener on the other side" may apply here. i really don't consider myself picky, i've been know to tag a few 5's in my day, and thats the reason i'm looking for top notch pussies in colombia.
i work hard, just like the rest of us, and when i get a chance to leave sex prison, i want to go all out! you guys know what i mean.
maybe i've been spoiled from my trip to sweden this summer and my expectations need to be lowered. even if thats the case, i still look forward to visiting colombia and scooping up some 8's or 9's. i'll treat it like a treasure hunt!
when i was in sweden, i went to a bar in uppsala (a swedish college town) and picked up two nineteen year old buxom blondies that practically raped me on the dance floor. no bullshit! not to mention, in sweden the broads buy their own drinks and actually get offended if you offer. no bullshit!
it was pretty much the best free sex i've ever had in my life. now i know colombia is the exact opposite, this aint my first rodeo dealing with the latina's. i expect to drop some cash, and i'm willing for the right pussy.
thanks for the input gents. see you on the flip side
[quote=eldirtygringo; 1338556]gentlemen,
in regards to my last post about the colombian pussies being the real deal. i appreciate every ones input. i guess the old saying "the grass is greener on the other side" may apply here. i really don't consider myself picky, i've been know to tag a few 5's in my day, and thats the reason i'm looking for top notch pussies in colombia.
i work hard, just like the rest of us, and when i get a chance to leave sex prison, i want to go all out! you guys know what i mean.
maybe i've been spoiled from my trip to sweden this summer and my expectations need to be lowered. even if thats the case, i still look forward to visiting colombia and scooping up some 8's or 9's. i'll treat it like a treasure hunt!
when i was in sweden, i went to a bar in uppsala (a swedish college town) and picked up two nineteen year old buxom blondies that practically raped me on the dance floor. no bullshit! not to mention, in sweden the broads buy their own drinks and actually get offended if you offer. no bullshit!
it was pretty much the best free sex i've ever had in my life. now i know colombia is the exact opposite, this aint my first rodeo dealing with the latina's. i expect to drop some cash, and i'm willing for the right pussy.
thanks for the input gents. see you on the flip side[/quote]well, hell, why not return to sweden? if you are picking up 19 year old hot swedish women just by strutting your stuff on the dance floor, why bother going to colombia where you admit it will cost you alot of cash? what brand of cologne were you wearing that night? or are you just soooo physically irresistible that hot 19 year old college women [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you on the dance floor? if that is the case, don't plan on spending too much money in colombia for pussy. or anywhere else in the world. really, no bullshit!
I think we should give an award for the first guy to spot the troll. So I win! ElDirtyGringo is the troll.
[QUOTE=Samu Ray;1330146]I bought a Motorola quad band on Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles. It costed me about $100. No questions asked. Outside the USA they will ask for your passport.[/QUOTE]It is good advice but passport is not needed in most countries to buy just the phone. In several countries they might ask for passport when you want to buy a SIM card though.
Hi everyone. Kind of new here, been a lurker for a few weeks LOL. I am sad to report that it appears my marriage is nearing its time. Not my choice and not because of my wandering. I stopped during the marriage. Prior to getting married I went a few times to CR, Panama and Colombia (MDE, CTG). I got tired of the Del at CR rather quickly. Panama is ok but not a amazing spot for mongering. I am looking to try and recover, I am not taking it well, and need some time for myself. But afterwards I don't feel I want to settle back down right away. Any advice where you would go to first?
Info:
My spanish is poor.
I am not into plastic bodies, although big tits are always nice.
Body preference I would call curvy or voluptuous but definitely not into fat girls. Flacas, but I mean really flaca does nothing for me usually.
Skin Mocha, dark tanned, but really no racial preference.
Very much into GFE, not much of PSE kind of a guy.
Budget : after room and food I would guess $600. 800 a day?
I figured COlombia because it is so close to FLorida, but then again so is the Dominican. I just do not know the personality of DR women. FYI, my soon to be Ex is a Boriqua. (great woman actually, we just don't mesh. Apparently.) Thailand seems like a long haul right now as is the philipines, and my biz Thank God is growing even in this economy, I am the owner and I rather stay close to it right now.
Thanks for the input, and yes I have read the forum, I am not asking for names or suggestions on MP or what hotels, More on what area has more of my taste of women since I have been out for a while.
[QUOTE=Fish Pargo; 1339245]Hi everyone. Kind of new here, been a lurker for a few weeks LOL. I am sad to report that it appears my marriage is nearing its time. Not my choice and not because of my wandering. I stopped during the marriage. Prior to getting married I went a few times to CR, Panama and Colombia (MDE, CTG). I got tired of the Del at CR rather quickly. Panama is ok but not a amazing spot for mongering. I am looking to try and recover, I am not taking it well, and need some time for myself. But afterwards I don't feel I want to settle back down right away. Any advice where you would go to first?
Info:
My spanish is poor.
I am not into plastic bodies, although big tits are always nice.
Body preference I would call curvy or voluptuous but definitely not into fat girls. Flacas, but I mean really flaca does nothing for me usually.
Skin Mocha, dark tanned, but really no racial preference.
Very much into GFE, not much of PSE kind of a guy.
Budget : after room and food I would guess $600. 800 a day?
I figured COlombia because it is so close to FLorida, but then again so is the Dominican. I just do not know the personality of DR women. FYI, my soon to be Ex is a Boriqua. (great woman actually, we just don't mesh. Apparently.) Thailand seems like a long haul right now as is the philipines, and my biz Thank God is growing even in this economy, I am the owner and I rather stay close to it right now.
Thanks for the input, and yes I have read the forum, I am not asking for names or suggestions on MP or what hotels, More on what area has more of my taste of women since I have been out for a while.[/QUOTE]Sorry for your marital woes. I think a great many on this forum have gone thru it also. I think you will find getting back into the swing of things is much better with P4P than trying to get a Non Pro. I know myself it took a first trip to CR to get me back on track.
Based on the info you have supplied I would go to one of the resorts that are girl all inclusive in the DR. I say this because it would appear that you don't have a lot of time due to your business to be away long enough to to get a GFE from hunting. The AI's in the Dr are expensive, but from your budget that should be no problem. The beauty of this setup is the girls are trained to supply the GFE, and you can keep one or more for the whole trip or switch off to another one or take two if you are up to it. Google it, and you will be in business after the short flight. Have fun, and a report back would be nice as there is not much feedback from this type of venue.
You couldn't go wrong with either DR or Colombia. You have lots of dollars, more than you need. You might consider Cartagena as well as Medellin or Bogota.
Hi,
Thanks for the input guys. Yes I am really considering the DR as my first pit stop. I have a fishing trip for Tuna in Feb with some buds, but they are hard core p4p guys. And my main reason to go is fishing (shocking I know.).
I did not post my finacnes as a point to rub in anyone face, It was just to give detail for more accurate suggestions. I like Colombia, but the Paisas I have been with in the past tend to be very into silicon, even in the ass. I think most women are a lot more sexy if they just strut the natural assets and are confident in bed. The only concern I have about the DR is mixed reports I have read. Some reports suggests that the darker women do not prefer to be with light skinned men. Yeah I know its all about the money, but I know most guys have that small connection that makes the sex better then just P4P. My two cents.
Anyways, I hope to be able to post soon a report. Meanwhile I will try to not be a silent lurker.
As for the marriage, yeah trust me it hurts. I am not one bit happy about it. I stopped mongering for my marriage, so that wasnt the issue. I love my kids dearly. I guess you just grow apart sometimes.
Anyways, I will enjoy reading reports until my first trip. I have already googles some inclusive resorts and will post some questions about it in the appropriate thread.
ditto. good answer.
[quote=chesrep001;1339545]you couldn't go wrong with either dr or colombia. you have lots of dollars, more than you need. you might consider cartagena as well as medellin or bogota.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Fish Pargo; 1339245]Hi everyone. Kind of new here, been a lurker for a few weeks LOL. I am sad to report that it appears my marriage is nearing its time. Not my choice and not because of my wandering. I stopped during the marriage. Prior to getting married I went a few times to CR, Panama and Colombia (MDE, CTG). I got tired of the Del at CR rather quickly. Panama is ok but not a amazing spot for mongering. I am looking to try and recover, I am not taking it well, and need some time for myself. But afterwards I don't feel I want to settle back down right away. Any advice where you would go to first?
Info:
My spanish is poor.
I am not into plastic bodies, although big tits are always nice.
Body preference I would call curvy or voluptuous but definitely not into fat girls. Flacas, but I mean really flaca does nothing for me usually.
Skin Mocha, dark tanned, but really no racial preference.
Very much into GFE, not much of PSE kind of a guy.
Budget : after room and food I would guess $600. 800 a day?
I figured COlombia because it is so close to FLorida, but then again so is the Dominican. I just do not know the personality of DR women. FYI, my soon to be Ex is a Boriqua. (great woman actually, we just don't mesh. Apparently.) Thailand seems like a long haul right now as is the philipines, and my biz Thank God is growing even in this economy, I am the owner and I rather stay close to it right now.
Thanks for the input, and yes I have read the forum, I am not asking for names or suggestions on MP or what hotels, More on what area has more of my taste of women since I have been out for a while.[/QUOTE]$600. $800 a day? With that kind of budget, I'd just head to Rio. Though not what it used to be, it's still the best destination in the Western Hemisphere, if not the World.
I do agree with the others though that DR and Colombia are solid choices and of course are very close to Florida.
[QUOTE=Combo; 1339673]$600. $800 a day? With that kind of budget, I'd just head to Rio. Though not what it used to be, it's still the best destination in the Western Hemisphere, if not the World.
I do agree with the others though that DR and Colombia are solid choices and of course are very close to Florida.[/QUOTE]Really? No I am not being sarcastic. So Rio / Brazil has my type / preference of women? It seemed to me that they were more european looking at times, and I had not read to much to point to a GFE setup. It seemed more of a Terma (MP?) kind of a place since HELP closed. To top it off my Portuguese is worse then my spanish. On the other hand I could roll in Israel or arab countries (Yeah not going to happen) with no language problems.
Now mind you when I say GFE, I do not mean non paying, I am referring to what some guys find and pay for, which is a roll in the bed but a also a good time outside the bed, or in the bed after the roll. LOL. I completely understand going back into the hobby that in the end it is about the money. But it is nice to almost forget for a few minutes when there, no? LOL (as long as I don't loose full perspective)
As far as the budget, I have several friends that roll much higher, they have their respective taste which is more on the finding the "upper class" GFE escorts. What ever that means. I tend to find their "upper class" nenas to simply be snobs, but that is my take on the trips. Thats for another story at another time.
Thanks so far guys for your help
[quote=chesrep001;1339545]you couldn't go wrong with either dr or colombia. you have lots of dollars, more than you need. you might consider cartagena as well as medellin or bogota.[/quote]freshly divorced, kinda down and sad, not good spanish.
just go the medellin mansion, or now called medellin plaza. you'll have it all.
lots of pretty girls, mostly gfe, good guys mostly to get advice and wingman.
if desired.
perfect place to start your new and probably happier life.
ps : of all the latinas, imo, the boriquas (pr) are by far the most spoiled and difficult.
don't get down on yourself, count your blessings and move on.
good luck amigo!
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1339809]Freshly divorced, kinda down and sad, not good spanish.
Just go the Medellin Mansion, or now called Medellin Plaza. You'll have it all.
Lots of pretty girls, mostly GFE, good guys mostly to get advice and wingman.
If desired.
Perfect place to start your new and probably happier life.
PS : Of all the latinas, IMO, the Boriquas (PR) are by far the most spoiled and difficult.
Don't get down on yourself, count your blessings and move on.
Good luck amigo![/QUOTE]Thanks for the input.
Yeah not divorced yet, just separated. But it is over. Sad? Yes, but I figure maybe not rush off right away. I don't want to be too emotionally vulnerable and fall into a nena trap. I have read many horror reports, I don't want to be one. I will try the Medellin mansion I am sure. Do they have costena there? Or are they all light skinned? Don't get me wrong, I like them all, but if I get to chose and its my choice then. LOL.
By the way, does anyone know why my posts are lagging by 24 hours at least? Is there some rule I do not realize on this forum?
Another possibility would be go back to San José but avoid the sharks at the Del Rey. You might like Sportsman's Lodge and you could have several women per day with your budget. I am not a big fan of dominicanas (okay, I would rather take a shit and fall backwards than be with another one) and they are all over the place these days. Another idea would be Curacao and Campo Alegre. Finally, on that type of a budget you could have a very good time in Buenos Aires, although there are some nuisance type issues there right now with currency controls and so forth.
I, too, quit messing around when I was married. You would think it would help but it does not.
[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1339874]Another possibility would be go back to San José but avoid the sharks at the Del Rey. You might like Sportsman's Lodge and you could have several women per day with your budget. I am not a big fan of dominicanas (okay, I would rather take a shit and fall backwards than be with another one) and they are all over the place these days. Another idea would be Curacao and Campo Alegre. Finally, on that type of a budget you could have a very good time in Buenos Aires, although there are some nuisance type issues there right now with currency controls and so forth.
I, too, quit messing around when I was married. You would think it would help but it does not.[/QUOTE]Ay dios mio! Argentina was AMAZING for me! Good call dickhead. Hahhah strange to write that.
I've broke it down before but I'll do the 10cent version. More options in Argentina IMO, Privates (I think they're called. 3-6 girls in an apartment) , independent girls in studio apts, TONS of incall services (buyer beware) , Night Clubs and Free lancer bars. Also Street Walkers but why do that other than if you like the "rush" of street action.
WAY BETTER food and wine! Colombia does every type of food poorly! Argentina has some of the best steaks ANYWHERE in the world and is hands down the better option for food.
Way better culture, more stuff to see and do IMO. Colombia has the mall and that's it. You often here form Gringos that live down there that they are board.
Also the girls in Argentina have more "Euro" blood in their mix so they are more light skinned. Think like a hot Italian or Mideastern skinned chick / olive skinned chick vs a dark skinned Dominicana which is the dark end of the Colombian scale.
Also getting around with 0% to little Spanish is MUCH easier in Argentina.
NOTE: Regular girls in Argentina are much more snobby than in Colombia. Hard to beilive I know! It's not the DR where chicks what to talk to you so you can take them out.
Argenina is Awesome! So is Colombia but Arg has much more to offer. I also think the dollar offers more bang for you buck in Arg vs Col ($4. 7 Arg Pesos, Was $3/$1USD when I went vs $1. 7. $1 USD) so I think your money will go further in Arg. Also "Servicio Completo" in Argentina is Anal for $10-$15 exta! Hahaha that is unheard of in Colo.
[QUOTE=Fish Pargo; 1339713]Really? No I am not being sarcastic. So Rio / Brazil has my type / preference of women? It seemed to me that they were more european looking at times, and I had not read to much to point to a GFE setup. It seemed more of a Terma (MP?) kind of a place since HELP closed. To top it off my Portuguese is worse then my spanish. On the other hand I could roll in Israel or arab countries (Yeah not going to happen) with no language problems.
Now mind you when I say GFE, I do not mean non paying, I am referring to what some guys find and pay for, which is a roll in the bed but a also a good time outside the bed, or in the bed after the roll. LOL. I completely understand going back into the hobby that in the end it is about the money. But it is nice to almost forget for a few minutes when there, no? LOL (as long as I don't loose full perspective)
As far as the budget, I have several friends that roll much higher, they have their respective taste which is more on the finding the "upper class" GFE escorts. What ever that means. I tend to find their "upper class" nenas to simply be snobs, but that is my take on the trips. Thats for another story at another time.
Thanks so far guys for your help[/QUOTE]Are you serious? Rio is loaded with Mulattas and Morenas. Brazil, as a whole, has a very substantial amount of African descent in its mix (certainly more than Colombia). Though you
do have unmatched ethnic diversity there also (You'll even fine a few Asian garotas). Rio, Medellin, and DR are all good options. I wouldn't do Curacao unless you're a diving enthusiast.
And Cuba is a pain to get to. Buenos Aires, since you like darker women, probably wouldn't be ideal either.
Fish.
I also should add that you should be very careful about carrying large amounts of money around in any of these locations. In fact, I wouldn't
even let any chica (or fellow monger) know that you have that kind of budget. Don't let yourself become a target.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777;1339897]I also think the dollar offers more bang for you buck in Arg vs Col ($4. 7 Arg Pesos, Was $3/$1USD when I went vs $1. 7. $1 USD) so I think your money will go further in Arg.[/QUOTE]The street rate is 6, 2 ARS per cash USD right now. But the inflation is unbelievable. Mostly gals born and raised in BA are snobby and the rest are not. But you can go to the Argentina Private site and read all about that.
[QUOTE=Combo; 1340030]Fish.
I also should add that you should be very careful about carrying large amounts of money around in any of these locations. In fact, I wouldn't.
Even let any chica (or fellow monger) know that you have that kind of budget. Don't let yourself become a target.[/QUOTE]Jajaja, true words. Financially life has gotten even better, which I thank God for in this economy. However even back when I was mongering I never let on what had or what I was willing to pay. No, you are very correct, and thanks for the reminder.
I will also add Rio to the list of places I am researching for my start. Likely I will just end up doing a "tour of recovery" and I think Thailand will have to be a must but last. I may have a coronary by the end. LOL.
I tell you it is frustrating. I would like to hook up at some point with some normal mongers from this forum on my trips. One of my friends who gives me current advice has a "steady" in central america. He sends her nearly $1000 USD a month and about $500 each night when he is there visiting her. I could roll like that, but why the hell would I want to? If I can do 3-4 nenas for that price, or at least half that price for 1 GFE / TLN. You get my point, I can't take their advice on this matter, and why in God's name would I want to end up sending some nena who is more then likely laughing at me and screwing other clients on the way to Western Union to pick up her $1K. On a note, these guys are my solid friends here at home. Don't take it wrong, they just well look at money differently and have even more then me, so to each his own I guess. He has a blast with her I know that.
Ok so Rio is added, ugh now in need to buy Rosetta stone Portugese, I just bought Rosetta Stone Thai jajajaja.
[QUOTE=Fish Pargo; 1339824]Thanks for the input.
Yeah not divorced yet, just separated. But it is over. Sad? Yes, but I figure maybe not rush off right away. I don't want to be too emotionally vulnerable and fall into a nena trap. I have read many horror reports, I don't want to be one. I will try the Medellin mansion I am sure. Do they have costena there? Or are they all light skinned? Don't get me wrong, I like them all, but if I get to chose and its my choice then. LOL.
By the way, does anyone know why my posts are lagging by 24 hours at least? Is there some rule I do not realize on this forum?[/QUOTE]Hey amigo, Truthfully I travel all the time, all over South America.
For me, as far as pure beauty, GFE, playing with regular girls (spanish required) , from light skin to dark skin, Medellin is numero uno for your vacation.
The Mansion just happens to cater to someone, who wants to show up and be able to pick and choose from a large array of girls, again from light to dark.
You pay a premium there, like $75 or so for a session with a girl. If you have good chemestry with a girl, she'll stay with you for a while, good GFE.
Of course while staying there, you can always branch out to other fun venues Medellin has to offer.
I love Brazil too. I practically live in Sao Paulo. Again girls of all shapes and sizes and colors to be had.
It's a longer flight to get to and can be more expensive, especially if you don't know what you're doing.
I like Sao Paulo better than Rio because the place is not over run by tourists and the girls aren't gringo spoiled in SP.
I know and hang in places in SP where I'm pretty sure I'm the only gringo ever seen there.
Buenos Aires. I dig the city, lots of sex venues, lots of great food, restarantes, etc.
I just find the BA girls much more cold than both the Colombianas and the Brasileiras.
Like DH said, the best girls in BA are not the natives, I particularly like the girls from Paraguay. They're more like the loving Colombianitas.
To live, maybe Argentina, except like someone posted, the regular girls are nowhere near as friendly as Colombianas or Brasileiras.
To travel to and just have fun with girls and get your mojo back, I'd choose Medellin Colombia, Cartagena Colombia if you have the cash, and if not Colombia, then Brazil or the DR, then for me probably Central America, like Guatemala where there are some real sweetys, especially the girls from Hondorous, then Argentina.
To meet the traveling Colombian working girls, I'd recommend St Martin, Dutch side. See the ISG forum for more info.
Fun girls, fun Island. I like it better than Curacao myself.
Good luck, you'll have fun.
Ricker is right.
I have lived in BA 1 year, with tips to montevideo, the Interior of Argentina, Rio, Bogota. Then I stay in Peru 6 months and finally 2010, 6 months in Colombia, the major part in Medellin, but I also lived in Cali, Periera and Cartagena.
Portenas (portenos = BA person) are cold and the difference to Rio girls is striking. BA is simply dead, people convinced that BA is the center of the world and the girls think very highly of themselves, but they are not hot at all in general. Provoces depression living there. I must add though, that miralces happens when you come outisde BA. I met a supersweet girl and her friends in Santiago del Estero, totally different than in BA.
BA is however a cultural metroplo and there are always events and nice food and interesting people.
Colombia is like coming to another planet. Girls are not just hot, of every color, they are so friendly that this combination makes Colombia a true Paradise. 100% serious. Waitresses giving me their phonenumers etc without asking, hot prepagos that wants to be your girlfriend etc, things that only can happen in Paradise Colombia, especially Medellin.
All,
I tried searching for this info, but I could not find it. So hopefully, you can help me.
Coming to Bogata for the first time in end of November / early December for work. Wanted to find out what a reasonable price would be to pay for a cutie. I know the answer is it depends, but would like a range if possible.
[QUOTE=Ravigoel2004; 1341368]All,
I tried searching for this info, but I could not find it. So hopefully, you can help me.
Coming to Bogata for the first time in end of November / early December for work. Wanted to find out what a reasonable price would be to pay for a cutie. I know the answer is it depends, but would like a range if possible.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the board Ravigoel.
Yes you are right it does depend. I have not mongered much lately, but some of my friends have often in the last years. I have some details from them. But take it with a grain of salt.
First, how is your spanish? The better your spanish the lower the price, seriously, its not a gringo thing, its a communication thing from what I can tell, and a negotiation talent. Second, are you more into ST or TLN? From what I can tell you can ST for under $100 easily and between $100. $200 for TLN. This will depend on the her hotness LOL and your negotiation ability. Veteran mongers can correct me please if I am mistaken.
Also the threads in the Bogota section and reports of distinction have some great info on specific places.
Again welcome to the board and enjoy. Update us on your trip when done.
Hey Guys,
Let me ask a "stupid" question about Romance Latina, Colombian Cupid, ect ect ect.
What girls are P4P and which are normal (or as normal as you get in Colombia) girls? How can you tell? If a girl is a Pro what is the best way to approach them with out sounding like a perverted gringo. I know we're all perverted gringos but the girl doesn't need to know that!
Is any one better than the next? Good ice breaker? Would "Hey you a working girl and how much for how long" be too harsh? LOL!
I'm not a dating site guy foreign or domestic. It's just that I need to replenish my "amiguitas" on my last trip down several of them have become gordas and that does not fly in my book.
Thanks for any and all advice
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1343057]Hey Guys,
Let me ask a "stupid" question about Romance Latina, Colombian Cupid, ect ect ect.
What girls are P4P and which are normal (or as normal as you get in Colombia) girls? How can you tell? If a girl is a Pro what is the best way to approach them with out sounding like a perverted gringo. I know we're all perverted gringos but the girl doesn't need to know that!
Is any one better than the next? Good ice breaker? Would "Hey you a working girl and how much for how long" be too harsh? LOL!
I'm not a dating site guy foreign or domestic. It's just that I need to replenish my "amiguitas" on my last trip down several of them have become gordas and that does not fly in my book.
Thanks for any and all advice[/QUOTE]I'd say at least 90% of those women are pros or prepagos.
33% prepagos
33% in need of money
33% serious
1% Princesses.
I just got kicked out by a hot MILF 28 from Bello, since I told her about my contacts on Cupid, even if we just had had contact in a few days. Yes, there are serious babes on Cupid.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1343057]Hey Guys,
Let me ask a "stupid" question about Romance Latina, Colombian Cupid, ect ect ect.
What girls are P4P and which are normal (or as normal as you get in Colombia) girls? How can you tell? If a girl is a Pro what is the best way to approach them with out sounding like a perverted gringo. I know we're all perverted gringos but the girl doesn't need to know that!
Is any one better than the next? Good ice breaker? Would "Hey you a working girl and how much for how long" be too harsh? LOL!
I'm not a dating site guy foreign or domestic. It's just that I need to replenish my "amiguitas" on my last trip down several of them have become gordas and that does not fly in my book.
Thanks for any and all advice[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1343507]33% prepagos
33% in need of money
33% serious
1% Princesses.
I just got kicked out by a hot MILF 28 from Bello, since I told her about my contacts on Cupid, even if we just had had contact in a few days. Yes, there are serious babes on Cupid.[/QUOTE]Hmmm; interesting. Cupid Romance is a sight or is it a mash up of Romance Latina and Colombia Cupid / South American Cupid? Any site better? A ripoff? Ect?
My question is how do you sort out who is a Pro and who is a Reg? I'd hate to offend a Reg by asking her " Very Nice! How much?" Like Borat!
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1343507]33% prepagos
33% in need of money
33% serious
1% Princesses.
I just got kicked out by a hot MILF 28 from Bello, since I told her about my contacts on Cupid, even if we just had had contact in a few days. Yes, there are serious babes on Cupid.[/QUOTE]So I have to ask, why would you tell a woman (especially a hot MILF that sounds like she might not be a pro) about other women / contacts?
Sorry if I am being inappropriate, just trying to get to know the guys on the forum and not just be a lurker. LOL
[QUOTE=Fish Pargo; 1343726]So I have to ask, why would you tell a woman (especially a hot MILF that sounds like she might not be a pro) about other women / contacts?
Sorry if I am being inappropriate, just trying to get to know the guys on the forum and not just be a lurker. LOL[/QUOTE]I wanted to be honest.
Well, it turned out well, Gracias a Dios! I was really lucky. Andrea is 29 and has two kids 8/11 why-o. She works out everyday and sends me photos of her in the gym! HOT! She now does casting for a Paisa company as underwear model. I feel happy!
As Frank C used to say "Paradise Medellin".
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1343974]I wanted to be honest.
Well, it turned out well, Gracias a Dios! I was really lucky. Andrea is 29 and has two kids 8/11 why-o. She works out everyday and sends me photos of her in the gym! HOT! She now does casting for a Paisa company as underwear model. I feel happy!
As Frank C used to say "Paradise Medellin".[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. Go figure. Well done.
I'm trying to get better at Spanish. I been reading and using some Spanish learning CD's for the past 4 months and my Spanish is still basic. I been thinking about getting a Rosetta Stone, but the price seems kinda crazy. Just wondering if it's really that good and worth it?
[QUOTE=Amb832;1346106]I'm trying to get better at Spanish. I been reading and using some Spanish learning CD's for the past 4 months and my Spanish is still basic. I been thinking about getting a Rosetta Stone, but the price seems kinda crazy. Just wondering if it's really that good and worth it?[/QUOTE]Get a Torrent App and google Torrent Spanish Learn or what ever key words you want to use. Once you have it DO NOT SHARE it if you are concerned with the "legal" ramifications.
Or local classes at the adult ed learning anex or local community college, gets you out of the house and speaking to actual people.
Or take your basic spanish skills to the local barrio eatery and chat up a few people. The best way to learn a language is to use it! Books, classes, and at home classes can only prep you for the real world. You know I can watch a you tube video on how to swim all I want but jumping in the pool is the best teacher there is.
Music is great for language learning. Try Canta en Espanol by Eydie Gormet.
[QUOTE=Amb832;1346106]I'm trying to get better at Spanish. I been reading and using some Spanish learning CD's for the past 4 months and my Spanish is still basic. I been thinking about getting a Rosetta Stone, but the price seems kinda crazy. Just wondering if it's really that good and worth it?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1343535]Hmmm; interesting. Cupid Romance is a sight or is it a mash up of Romance Latina and Colombia Cupid / South American Cupid? Any site better? A ripoff? Ect?
My question is how do you sort out who is a Pro and who is a Reg? I'd hate to offend a Reg by asking her " Very Nice! How much?" Like Borat![/QUOTE]At some level or another, they are all working girls!
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1343535]Hmmm; interesting. Cupid Romance is a sight or is it a mash up of Romance Latina and Colombia Cupid / South American Cupid? Any site better? A ripoff? Ect?
My question is how do you sort out who is a Pro and who is a Reg? I'd hate to offend a Reg by asking her " Very Nice! How much?" Like Borat![/QUOTE]Pros can be the easy type, but there also those who put on dramas, and they can plan an attack until they feel you are trapped and have to pay some sort of "moral" ransom to get out, only Mr. Nice Guy pays, but it's such a waste of time and Good Energy.
The problem is that many choose after how the situation / relationship evolves: If they feel you will be 2 generous they will go after your money first, your heart second.
But there always a surplus of good looking paisas.
I had contact with "serious" a girl on Cupid for one month. Then I was drunk / horney one night and wrote about internet modelling and how great it would be to fuck her Online. I deleted the message and we kept talking on MSN, then she suddenly asked me about Online modelling. I asked if she was angry explained that that I had been drunk etc. Then she (!) told me she wanted to sell her friends to "extranjeros" in Medellin. And that maybe I could fuck her Online! Wow!
Medellin Paradise. Medellin Paradise.
Has anyone bused it from Cali to Quito and how did it work out for you? I am looking for a border town called ipiales (spelled wrong) on the map but cannot find it. Apparently this is a border city easily reached from Cali or Bogota. Anyone heard of it?
What I would like to do is end up in Quito after gradually increasing in altitude.
Cali Ipiales Ibarra Otavalo Quito.
Any reason to stop in San Lorenzo Ecuador? It looks like a dingy coastal community.
Thanks for the help.
UPDATE :
Now I see that ipiales is also at a very high altitude. I want to go from Cali to Ibarra,Ecuador without hitting elevations above 7k. Any ideas ?
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1350814]Has anyone bused it from Cali to Quito and how did it work out for you? I am looking for a border town called ipiales (spelled wrong) on the map but cannot find it. Apparently this is a border city easily reached from Cali or Bogota. Anyone heard of it?
What I would like to do is end up in Quito after gradually increasing in altitude.
Cali Ipiales Ibarra Otavalo Quito.
Any reason to stop in San Lorenzo Ecuador? It looks like a dingy coastal community.
Thanks for the help.
UPDATE :
Now I see that ipiales is also at a very high altitude. I want to go from Cali to Ibarra, Ecuador without hitting elevations above 7k. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]Take a flight. You will absolutely go over 7k in Ibarra. Also mind the following:
Regional Advisory for the areas immediately bordering Colombia.
Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada advises against all travel to the areas immediately bordering Colombia due to the presence of drug traffickers and criminal organizations. This includes the provinces of Carchi and Sucumbíosexcept the city of Tulcáandand the town of San Lorenzo, located in the north of the province of Esmeraldas. Consult the Security tab for more information.
[QUOTE=Amb832;1346106]I'm trying to get better at Spanish. I been reading and using some Spanish learning CD's for the past 4 months and my Spanish is still basic. I been thinking about getting a Rosetta Stone, but the price seems kinda crazy. Just wondering if it's really that good and worth it?[/QUOTE]I found Rosetta stone to be worthless (for me). It is video based and it is NOT the way I like to learn a language. I personally feel it is marketing and hype. I found Pimsleur language audio guides to be very useful and worth every penny and it is a lot less expensive.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1350910]I found Rosetta stone to be worthless (for me). It is video based and it is NOT the way I like to learn a language. I personally feel it is marketing and hype. I found Pimsleur language audio guides to be very useful and worth every penny and it is a lot less expensive.[/QUOTE]There are all types of learners but in my professional and personal opinion you are spot on. Rosetta Stone absolutely sux. They show you 4 pictures then say a phrase in the target language. Then you have to take a stab at which picture the phrase is talking about.
In addition to Pimsleur I suggest going on amazon and purchasing a first year high school or university text book. 501 verbs, and a big English-Spanish dictionary as well.
[quote=mr enternational; 1350932]there are all types of learners but in my professional and personal opinion you are spot on. rosetta stone absolutely sux. they show you 4 pictures then say a phrase in the target language. then you have to take a stab at which picture the phrase is talking about.
in addition to pimsleur i suggest going on amazon and purchasing a first year high school or university text book. 501 verbs, and a big english-spanish dictionary as well.[/quote]when comes to learning i prefer the og basics, book, pen, note pad, real professor, and classmates. i'm just not disciplined enough to do it on my own. so any of the vids, cds, short cuts are not for me. learn by doing and earning the ability. the real way. i know time is an issue as we get older seems time gets shorter and responsibilities get longer. 4.
any sort of audio language tapes could help if you drive a bunch, there is a funny commercial running about two guys who learn spanish during a road trip. this will help get you accustomed to hearing the words and then having them registrar in your brain. music in general is cool but they use the subjunctive a lot imo so hard to understand.
my bestest tip would be old movies. it can be any movie that you've seen in english and then watch it on telemundo (ect). i find it helpful because i know what's going on, what they said at this part in english and now what they're doing and saying in spanish.
it really is the listening part and being able to pick up the words as they're being said. for speech, when you can think to yourself in spanish your flow will be much better.
i have a minor in spanish. best 30 credit hours ever! (might have been less credit hours but the student loan bill says different!)
[QUOTE=Questner; 1350832]Take a flight. You will absolutely go over 7k in Ibarra. Also mind the following:
Regional Advisory for the areas immediately bordering Colombia.
Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada advises against all travel to the areas immediately bordering Colombia due to the presence of drug traffickers and criminal organizations. This includes the provinces of Carchi and Sucumbíosexcept the city of Tulcáandand the town of San Lorenzo, located in the north of the province of Esmeraldas. Consult the Security tab for more information.[/QUOTE]Good Advice. Thank you for your input.
I'm going to be in Cali in Dec and was considering going to Pasto and beyond by land, but I probably won't do it. Passing thru Cauca is NOT a good plan overland these days.
Since we are on the topic of overland travel; Any of you drove from MDE to Cali? How are the roads? I will be doing that on a Motorcycle and will only be riding during daylight hours. Also, I promised myself I will limit city driving to the minimum. Any good or bad stuff to watch out for? Please share as I know that some of you have unique perspectives and experiences I can't get with Google.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1351906]Since we are on the topic of overland travel; Any of you drove from MDE to Cali? How are the roads? I will be doing that on a Motorcycle and will only be riding during daylight hours. Also, I promised myself I will limit city driving to the minimum. Any good or bad stuff to watch out for? Please share as I know that some of you have unique perspectives and experiences I can't get with Google.[/QUOTE]No experience here, but likely take a first leg to the city of Armenia. Buy a local auto guide, it advises on tolls, gas stations, elevations, temperature, signage and other dangers. Get in touch with a local motorcycle club.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1351906]Since we are on the topic of overland travel; Any of you drove from MDE to Cali? How are the roads? I will be doing that on a Motorcycle and will only be riding during daylight hours. Also, I promised myself I will limit city driving to the minimum. Any good or bad stuff to watch out for? Please share as I know that some of you have unique perspectives and experiences I can't get with Google.[/QUOTE]A couple of years ago I drove from Medellin to Armenia. I wouldn't do it again. The route is very poorly marked, it's through winding mountain roads with 18 wheelers going with wild abandon. Passing on curves seems like an acceptable risk to most of them. I saw three serious wrecks and was involved in a fender bender myself. Some dude with an old van full of children rear ended me. Quite an experience, but I don't recommend it.
[QUOTE=Questner;1352168]No experience here, but likely take a first leg to the city of Armenia. Buy a local auto guide, it advises on tolls, gas stations, elevations, temperature, signage and other dangers. Get in touch with a local motorcycle club.[/QUOTE]Thank you both. Will do.
Using the search function, there is not much about Armenia. Any mongering pointers? Clubs, Casas etc.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1351906]Since we are on the topic of overland travel; Any of you drove from MDE to Cali? How are the roads? I will be doing that on a Motorcycle and will only be riding during daylight hours. Also, I promised myself I will limit city driving to the minimum. Any good or bad stuff to watch out for? Please share as I know that some of you have unique perspectives and experiences I can't get with Google.[/QUOTE]I just got a motorcycle and I'm still a week away from them giving me my motorcycle licence here, I've been from Armenia to MDE before, but my trip to Cali will be by bike, and I may go all the way up to MDE too. The only thing is La Linea from Bogota, and when you get to Antioquia it gets REALLY mountainous again.
YEH Not staight from Cali but I did lot of stops, Look in the Nibu section I posted all the info there Pal.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1350814]Has anyone bused it from Cali to Quito and how did it work out for you? I am looking for a border town called ipiales (spelled wrong) on the map but cannot find it. Apparently this is a border city easily reached from Cali or Bogota. Anyone heard of it?
What I would like to do is end up in Quito after gradually increasing in altitude.
Cali Ipiales Ibarra Otavalo Quito.
Any reason to stop in San Lorenzo Ecuador? It looks like a dingy coastal community.
Thanks for the help.
UPDATE :
Now I see that ipiales is also at a very high altitude. I want to go from Cali to Ibarra, Ecuador without hitting elevations above 7k. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]
As of November 26, flights between Colombia and the USA are no longer to be limited in terms of routes and frequency of flights, local media reported Tuesday.
The proposal gained the approval from Congress on Monday night meaning American commercial airlines can fly to and from the USA from any city in Colombia, a practice previously prohibited by an agreement signed in 1956. USA airlines will now be able to fly to any airport in the country instead of just the principle cities of Cartagena, Medellin, Bogota, Cali and Barranquilla.
"There is no limit on the number of frequencies and the route schedule, airlines can choose any city. It is an agreement that allows freedom to go from Bogota to New York then Europe, ' said the director of Aerocivil, the state regulator of civil aviation in Colombia.
The new agreement also means that the frequency of flights and cargo between the two nations is also no longer limited and will gradually increase in 2013 with the hopes of increasing Colombian exports and tourism.
The problem of immigration was raised as some Colombian airports do not have suitable infrastructure to deal with USA citizens coming in to the country so, to combat this issue, airports with immigration systems will be automatically intergrated into flight plans USA flight plans, daily business newspaper Portafolio reported.
Have any of you guys entered Colombia on a one way airline ticket and what if anything happened?
I'd like to enter MDE on a one way and eventually fly back from Lima. Who the hell needs to deal with coming up with exact dates and cancellation policies. I'd like to buy my tickets as needed.
The REP from Copa Air said "YES" but at my own risk. I mentioned that I would have a print out of a bus ticket reservation from Cali to Quito. He still said at my own risk.
Another question I had is what have your experiences been purchasing tickets while abroad? Can you purchase them online through the english version of the airline website or will it not accept your credit card? I've heard stories of inflated fares due to using an american credit card in SA or being unable to use them for ticket purchases.
I am a total newbie with flying within SA. Please help. Better to buy here in the USA and deal with change fees etc or go the one way route?
Fellow Mongers.
I must make this statement since I'm entering a serious relationship with a Colombiana.
I'm an average Blaha-man 43 why-o. I find novias and putas of very high class. It seems that Colombianas are so hot that it is almost unreal, but it is real. Panamas females are short, thick and boring, Venezolanas, even hotter than Colombainas, but with their country on brink of collapse so please don't go, Peruanas are generally 44% as hot, and a bit boring compared to their Colombian sisters.
Colombianas makes your dreams comes true. This is not Thailand. This is someting so much better that few will belive you, back at home telling your stories about being seduced by hot Colombiana.
I advice you, lonely man, wealthy man, horney man, go to Colombia and enjoy life. Enjoy the happy people, you will make friends for life and get laid with babes, if you just can reduce your US / Western sceptical mind, just a little bit.
Lovesick or Superhorney: Go to Colombia, another forum is a great help. You can not aviod turisttraps entirely, but minimize losses. Read through posts here and you will find valuable info. , for budget man, rich short-term man, backpacker man, retired or student.
Open you mind, let yourself be seduced and Paradise will open up.
I have done it and I'm an average Anglosaxon man. Spanish skills are important, but much more important is serious interest in learing the lingo and about the country, Colombianas notice this and you will be rewarded.
I have come across to the other side and that means entering Paradise.
It took years for me to grasp that I had found Paradise, and it can never be understood by your fellow Anglosaxons at home. This is not Thailand or Phillipines. Colombia is full of Babes Of Every Color. Colombia is decent. You will be attacked by these females themselves and you will think this is not real, but it is.
Fellow Mongers. Stop wasting your money on porno, overprices hookers, ugly girlfriends or, even worse, ugly wifes, with economical or materialistic demands that makes your life a Non-Life.
These behavoiurs costs much more than Colombianas for any kind; by the hour, day or week, or as a girlfriend or wife. If American, you can travel frequently to Colombia and sustain a relationship that way, and, if coming from Minnesota, escaping a horrible climate in exchange for a Superb one.
Just My 2 Cents
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1354511]Have any of you guys entered Colombia on a one way airline ticket and what if anything happened?
I'd like to enter MDE on a one way and eventually fly back from Lima. Who the hell needs to deal with coming up with exact dates and cancellation policies. I'd like to buy my tickets as needed.
The REP from Copa Air said "YES" but at my own risk. I mentioned that I would have a print out of a bus ticket reservation from Cali to Quito. He still said at my own risk.
Another question I had is what have your experiences been purchasing tickets while abroad? Can you purchase them online through the english version of the airline website or will it not accept your credit card? I've heard stories of inflated fares due to using an american credit card in SA or being unable to use them for ticket purchases.
I am a total newbie with flying within SA. Please help. Better to buy here in the USA and deal with change fees etc or go the one way route?[/QUOTE]A while back instead of buying a RT ticket I bought two seperate tickets each way to, and from Colombia. Before I could get my boarding pass to leave the USA I had to show my return ticket.
I have bought tickets online to the USA while in Colombia, and Peru with my American credit card paying in dollars with no problem. As far as in country travel I just go to an Avianca office, and pay in pesos. The fares were not bad, and I really like to use Avianca.
I agree this is a real pain in the ass in having to cement your return plans in advance. Two of my last three trips to MGA I changed my return date, and took a beating. This is just another scam by the government, and airlines to rip you off. The airline gets the cancelation fees, and Big Brother gets to keep the fees they charge on the old ticket if you get a whole new ticket as sometimes it pays to do that.
[QUOTE=John Gault; 1354523]A while back instead of buying a RT ticket I bought two seperate tickets each way to, and from Colombia. Before I could get my boarding pass to leave the USA I had to show my return ticket.
I have bought tickets online to the USA while in Colombia, and Peru with my American credit card paying in dollars with no problem. As far as in country travel I just go to an Avianca office, and pay in pesos. The fares were not bad, and I really like to use Avianca.
I agree this is a real pain in the ass in having to cement your return plans in advance. Two of my last three trips to MGA I changed my return date, and took a beating. This is just another scam by the government, and airlines to rip you off. The airline gets the cancelation fees, and Big Brother gets to keep the fees they charge on the old ticket if you get a whole new ticket as sometimes it pays to do that.[/QUOTE]Mr. G,
Thank you for your response. I found it quite helpful.
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1354517]Fellow Mongers.
I must make this statement since I'm entering a serious relationship with a Colombiana.
I'm an average Blaha-man 43 why-o. I find novias and putas of very high class. It seems that Colombianas are so hot that it is almost unreal, but it is real. Panamas females are short, thick and boring, Venezolanas, even hotter than Colombainas, but with their country on brink of collapse so please don't go, Peruanas are generally 44% as hot, and a bit boring compared to their Colombian sisters.
Colombianas makes your dreams comes true. This is not Thailand. This is someting so much better that few will belive you, back at home telling your stories about being seduced by hot Colombiana.
I advice you, lonely man, wealthy man, horney man, go to Colombia and enjoy life. Enjoy the happy people, you will make friends for life and get laid with babes, if you just can reduce your US / Western sceptical mind, just a little bit.
Lovesick or Superhorney: Go to Colombia, another forum is a great help. You can not aviod turisttraps entirely, but minimize losses. Read through posts here and you will find valuable info. , for budget man, rich short-term man, backpacker man, retired or student.
Open you mind, let yourself be seduced and Paradise will open up.
I have done it and I'm an average Anglosaxon man. Spanish skills are important, but much more important is serious interest in learing the lingo and about the country, Colombianas notice this and you will be rewarded.
I have come across to the other side and that means entering Paradise.
It took years for me to grasp that I had found Paradise, and it can never be understood by your fellow Anglosaxons at home. This is not Thailand or Phillipines. Colombia is full of Babes Of Every Color. Colombia is decent. You will be attacked by these females themselves and you will think this is not real, but it is.
Fellow Mongers. Stop wasting your money on porno, overprices hookers, ugly girlfriends or, even worse, ugly wifes, with economical or materialistic demands that makes your life a Non-Life.
These behavoiurs costs much more than Colombianas for any kind; by the hour, day or week, or as a girlfriend or wife. If American, you can travel frequently to Colombia and sustain a relationship that way, and, if coming from Minnesota, escaping a horrible climate in exchange for a Superb one.
Just My 2 Cents[/QUOTE]You said it brother!
Colombia, Venezuela (man was it good before the collapse) , and don't forget about Brazil.
All make life worth living.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1354511]Have any of you guys entered Colombia on a one way airline ticket and what if anything happened?
I'd like to enter MDE on a one way and eventually fly back from Lima. Who the hell needs to deal with coming up with exact dates and cancellation policies. I'd like to buy my tickets as needed.
The REP from Copa Air said "YES" but at my own risk. I mentioned that I would have a print out of a bus ticket reservation from Cali to Quito. He still said at my own risk.
Another question I had is what have your experiences been purchasing tickets while abroad? Can you purchase them online through the english version of the airline website or will it not accept your credit card? I've heard stories of inflated fares due to using an american credit card in SA or being unable to use them for ticket purchases.
I am a total newbie with flying within SA. Please help. Better to buy here in the USA and deal with change fees etc or go the one way route?[/QUOTE]Always do a search on kayak. Com as long you have a us credit / debit card. It will work.
My two pesos.
Kukulkan.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1354511]Have any of you guys entered Colombia on a one way airline ticket and what if anything happened?
I'd like to enter MDE on a one way and eventually fly back from Lima. Who the hell needs to deal with coming up with exact dates and cancellation policies. I'd like to buy my tickets as needed.
The REP from Copa Air said "YES" but at my own risk. I mentioned that I would have a print out of a bus ticket reservation from Cali to Quito. He still said at my own risk.
Another question I had is what have your experiences been purchasing tickets while abroad? Can you purchase them online through the english version of the airline website or will it not accept your credit card? I've heard stories of inflated fares due to using an american credit card in SA or being unable to use them for ticket purchases.
I am a total newbie with flying within SA. Please help. Better to buy here in the USA and deal with change fees etc or go the one way route?[/QUOTE]Hola,
Purchasing tickets in Colombia is no problem.
You can buy two roundtrip tickets (as John suggested) but if one way is really your goal, then buy the return ticket as a full-fare refundable ticket, print it and cancel it after you land.
Monger Spanish.
Any you guys need download for your ipod, I just figured out how to email the mp3 so if you want to learn Spanish for puta related stuff send me your email by pm.
I want to post some comments in the general section. What little specifics I have, I will post in other cities.
I did do my roadtrip from MDE to Manizales, to Pereira, Armenia, Buga and Cali on a Motorcycle, BMW 800 GS. The bikes from Motolombia were fantastic. The roads are awesome, the sceneray is spectacular, people are very friendly and most importantly, I NEVER felt unsafe. I think driving on your own in Mexico and some central american countries is way more riskier than in Colombia.
Mongering wise, it was a total bust (for my tastes). Can't wait to get back to MDE
That I know of.
[url]Http://www.clubaphrodisia.ch/preise-erotik-club.html.[/url]
$300 US / 30 minutes with one of these beauties.
I posted this here since we were discussing prices in MDE and CTG threads. Gives you a perspective and some appreciation of what you have in CO.
[QUOTE=FrankieBallSac;1357345]Going to be visiting end of January 2013 and wanted to see the P4P, Casas, semi-pro, non pro chicas in 5 cities. Medellin, Bogota, Barranquilla, Cartagena, and Cali. Any recommendations on which city I should spend the most time in mongoring? My standards are mostly in search of 7. 5+ from a 1-10. I find the female Colombian Golf player Maria Jose Uribe to be a 7 from a 1-10. And Pornstar Esperanza Gomez is a perfect 10. Money isn't an issue, I'm willing to pay $200 for Short Term as long as she's a 10.[/QUOTE]Based on small amount of info, we don't have similar taste (I don't like silicone so I would not do Esperanza Gomez) but I know what you are asking. I would say MJU has an 8 for face and 6 for body. :-)
My order, most days to least, would be the following and I have been to all of them.
MDE, CTG, BOG, Cali and Barranquilla.
BTW, Given the above criteria, I would be surprised if you could find a 10 P4P in Colombia. So, likely you will be saving some money. There are lot of 10s in MDE and BOG but they are high society chicas, generally not in the P4P circles. I saw 3 or 4 all natural 10s in the Tesoro mall in MDE. That is rare for any big city.
I have decided to move to Medellin, and what I am looking for is just info in living in and expats. There are a lot of boards but I am trying to get as much info as I can.
From what I hear a lot of people have said It can be cheap or expensive as you like. I do speak Spanish so that be good but is there any Xpats in Medellin that live here.
As will as just do a little mongering. If anyone just wants to chat or send emails I am looking for that kind of person. I will not re-post things I get and you want to skype
Let me know
[QUOTE=Optic Guard; 1361931]I have decided to move to Medellin, and what I am looking for is just info in living in and expats. There are a lot of boards but I am trying to get as much info as I can.
From what I hear a lot of people have said It can be cheap or expensive as you like. I do speak Spanish so that be good but is there any Xpats in Medellin that live here.
As will as just do a little mongering. If anyone just wants to chat or send emails I am looking for that kind of person. I will not re-post things I get and you want to skype
Let me know[/QUOTE]Why would you move to a city or a country you've never been to before? Why don't you go visit it for a week or a month first.
blue devil on another forum lives in sabaneta. he would be able to give you some good advice. there is a bi-lingual woman, andrea of guidesbyandrea, who can help you find an apartment to live in. an obvious alternative to poblado and patio bonito is laureles, though i think it has lots of barrios which differ in strata level or what have you. there is an upscale hostel in poblado and the owner would be a good contact i expect.
[url]https://sites.google.com/a/arcadiahostel.net/opcion1/[/url]
barry of poblado rentals is down there often, and can orient you. there is a living in medellin thread that has never really gotten going, with some info on cedulas. i think there is an under the radar expat community, it might take some time to find and meet them.
chesrep001
Miss USA won the miss universe competition but I would have voted for miss Colombia. I think she is gorgeous, but I am biased.
[url]http://www.missuniverse.com/members/profile/652634/year:2012[/url]
Sorry to bring up such a boring subject but hopefully my question will add a new twist to an already beaten horse.
" When you take the bus to Cali you need to cross the andes (right?). How high (altitude) do you need to cross in order to get to the flat road (pan am) that leads to Cali? From what I've read the first 4/5 hrs are windy one lane roads through the mountains. Then once you hit Periera you are back on flat land. Does the bus climb for 2 hrs up then 2 hrs downhill?
MDE is around 5k feet. Anything past 7k ft and I get uncomfortable."
When I did the buses in Mexico I brought a winter coat and scarf. It was very much needed. Same thing in Colombia? From what I've read food is hard to come by during the journey?
Thank you for the information.
PS. I forgot to ask if there are luggage restrictions on the buses ? What are you allowed to carry on ? I need to have a regular size cooler with me at my feet..problem?
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1363156]Sorry to bring up such a boring subject but hopefully my question will add a new twist to an already beaten horse.
" When you take the bus to Cali you need to cross the andes (right?). How high (altitude) do you need to cross in order to get to the flat road (pan am) that leads to Cali? From what I've read the first 4/5 hrs are windy one lane roads through the mountains. Then once you hit Periera you are back on flat land. Does the bus climb for 2 hrs up then 2 hrs downhill?
MDE is around 5k feet. Anything past 7k ft and I get uncomfortable."
When I did the buses in Mexico I brought a winter coat and scarf. It was very much needed. Same thing in Colombia? From what I've read food is hard to come by during the journey?
Thank you for the information.
PS. I forgot to ask if there are luggage restrictions on the buses? What are you allowed to carry on? I need to have a regular size cooler with me at my feet. Problem?[/QUOTE]Hi Artisttyp, I did the same route two weeks ago on a motorcycle. Yes, the road up to Pereira is VERY windy and it was a blast on a Moto but for me would have been a killer in a bus. I am sensitive and I get nauseated. The scenery is stunning and worth it if that is part of the reason why you are doing it. Of course interaction with locals and the food in small towns was also wonderful, which I am sure you will get to experience on a bus journey as well.
Temperature: it was never cold during the day. Long sleeve T or light jacket should be fine unless you are taking a night bus (which I hope not as that would take away all the positives of a bus trip and leave you with negatives of a 10 hour journey). Let me know if you have any more questions.
[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1363201]Hi Artisttyp, I did the same route two weeks ago on a motorcycle. Yes, the road up to Pereira is VERY windy and it was a blast on a Moto but for me would have been a killer in a bus. I am sensitive and I get nauseated. The scenery is stunning and worth it if that is part of the reason why you are doing it. Of course interaction with locals and the food in small towns was also wonderful, which I am sure you will get to experience on a bus journey as well.
Temperature: it was never cold during the day. Long sleeve T or light jacket should be fine unless you are taking a night bus (which I hope not as that would take away all the positives of a bus trip and leave you with negatives of a 10 hour journey). Let me know if you have any more questions.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I've done the ride of death a few times in other countries (Ecuador) and "yes" it does bite but the scenery and experience is priceless. I haven't given Colombia a chance in this regard so I need to seriously consider it. Also flying in Colombia is almost more of a pain in the ass. The security is out of control.
I assume there will be military check points or baggage inspections along the way?
Thanks again for the response.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1363208]Thanks. I've done the ride of death a few times in other countries (Ecuador) and "yes" it does bite but the scenery and experience is priceless. I haven't given Colombia a chance in this regard so I need to seriously consider it. Also flying in Colombia is almost more of a pain in the ass. The security is out of control.
I assume there will be military check points or baggage inspections along the way?
Thanks again for the response.[/QUOTE]I flew inside Colombia (domestic) and never had any security issues and may be I was lucky. In fact, I had a very positive experience one. A while ago I forgot my brand new iphone at one of the screening points in BOG and only remembered about it after I landed in CTG. The staff tracked it down and made sure I got it in CTG, a day later. I cannot imagine that happening in most countries in the world. As you can tell, I love Colombia for many reasons including their airlines.
BTW, there would be a minimum of 5. 6 check points but we were only stopped twice on a moto. When they did, they were super friendly. Colombia is infinitely more friendly and I felt more safe there than in Mexico and you know I am a Mexico veteran (smile).
I searched on here for similar topic, but couldn't find any. I been reading and listening to CD for a few months now. My problem I'm having is I can read Spanish better than I can listen or speak face to face with another person. I would like to practice with a person on Skype because most classes I see are offering between $500-$800 for seven 1 hour sessions which I think is too expensive. Anyone knows a person that do lessons on Skype?
[QUOTE=Amb832;1363274]I searched on here for similar topic, but couldn't find any. I been reading and listening to CD for a few months now. My problem I'm having is I can read Spanish better than I can listen or speak face to face with another person. I would like to practice with a person on Skype because most classes I see are offering between $500-$800 for seven 1 hour sessions which I think is too expensive. Anyone knows a person that do lessons on Skype?[/QUOTE]I think Lessons Skype will do for key words. Not too long ago there was a rolling convo about classes and somebody put up a few emails and what not for this chick / lady who does lessons via Skype for very reasonable rates. I'd guess in the Medellin topic as that one contains very few reports on fucking chicks anymore! LOL!
Sorry I can't be more specific; I took my lessons in college as a minor.
The info is already posted, just a matter of digging it out.
[QUOTE=Amb832;1363274]I searched on here for similar topic, but couldn't find any. I been reading and listening to CD for a few months now. My problem I'm having is I can read Spanish better than I can listen or speak face to face with another person. I would like to practice with a person on Skype because most classes I see are offering between $500-$800 for seven 1 hour sessions which I think is too expensive. Anyone knows a person that do lessons on Skype?[/QUOTE]Try nataliavelez@elearnspanishonline. She teaches via skype. I think 20 bucks an hour. Good luck!
[QUOTE=Amb832;1363274]I searched on here for similar topic, but couldn't find any. I been reading and listening to CD for a few months now. My problem I'm having is I can read Spanish better than I can listen or speak face to face with another person. I would like to practice with a person on Skype because most classes I see are offering between $500-$800 for seven 1 hour sessions which I think is too expensive. Anyone knows a person that do lessons on Skype?[/QUOTE]Like Slam says, the info is already posted but my favorite is Pimsleur Spanish. Very inexpensive and there is a lot of focus on pronunciation and speaking out loud.
This last trip, my buddy and I we went to a bar with another american we just met in MDE. He said he is fluent in Spanish (and he is) but the girls told me that they have a hard time understanding him because of his accent and even though my spanish is limited they were able to follow what the fuck I am saying. Pronunciation makes a big difference
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1363292][B]I'd guess in the Medellin topic as that one contains very few reports on fucking chicks anymore! LOL!
[/B][/QUOTE]That is so true. What is up with that? You read my mind and I am wondering the same.
BTW, if you look at the travel announcement section there were a lot of people announcing their visits to MDE but very few reports.
Newbie here. Did a quick search and didn't find an answer for this-
I have experience in the US (payment up front) and Uruguay and Argentina (I always paid post session) but what is expected in Colombia?
For a 1 hour session pay up front?
For say 12 hours I wouldn't feel comfortable with that. Do you pay half up front and half at the end?
Thanks for your help!
[QUOTE=Chelo; 1363521]Newbie here. Did a quick search and didn't find an answer for this-
I have experience in the US (payment up front) and Uruguay and Argentina (I always paid post session) but what is expected in Colombia?
For a 1 hour session pay up front?
For say 12 hours I wouldn't feel comfortable with that. Do you pay half up front and half at the end?
Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]In Mayorista in MDE most of the girls want payment first. Later if you take them again they may not ask for it right away. Other areas when payment is asked first the best way is to show them the money, but not give it up till the session is over. Say if you put it on the dresser that will do the trick. Now in Casas you have to pay up front in 99% of the places. I have been to one where they run a tab, but you have to watch they don't add extra charges on the bill.
[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1363515]That is so true. What is up with that? You read my mind and I am wondering the same.
BTW, if you look at the travel announcement section there were a lot of people announcing their visits to MDE but very few reports.[/QUOTE]Not much has changed. A 3 year summary, Hooters opened Aug 4th 2009, Dollhouse opened June 2010, closed Aug 2010, Loutron moved, PaisaLover got Jailed, MedellinPaisa was killed, AG built a bar, Frank built a baby crib, the airport remodel job now has food and drinks after the final checkpoint, Spirit started flights June 2009, Bbrocs has added more apartments near Lleras, few metro cables got extended, the skyline is more crowded with high rises, prices are a little higher, casa quality is down, girls went full blown RL, girls are fatter and so am I. LMAO
[QUOTE=Chelo; 1363521]Newbie here. Did a quick search and didn't find an answer for this-
I have experience in the US (payment up front) and Uruguay and Argentina (I always paid post session) but what is expected in Colombia?
For a 1 hour session pay up front?
For say 12 hours I wouldn't feel comfortable with that. Do you pay half up front and half at the end?
Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]The only time I pay anywhere up front is at a fuck house where it is required to pay up front. As far as that, really the only places that come to mind are Las Cucardas in Lima and the soapies in Thailand. Also in the casas of Santa Fe in Bogota you have to pay the room only (5 or 10k pesos depending on the joint) up front. Other than that I would NEVER give a sex worker payment up front. MF tend to get lazy after they are paid. That money is too busy burning a hole in their pocket for them to give good service. That is in any job. Pay your workers at the end of the day.
However if I am on the other end of the business deal then I would require money up front. No dough, no show.
[QUOTE=Chelo; 1363521]Newbie here. Did a quick search and didn't find an answer for this-
I have experience in the US (payment up front) and Uruguay and Argentina (I always paid post session) but what is expected in Colombia?
For a 1 hour session pay up front?
For say 12 hours I wouldn't feel comfortable with that. Do you pay half up front and half at the end?
Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]BTW I speak Spanish so I do know what prepago means. Is that standard practice? I got screwed (in not the good way) in Venezuela so thought it best to ask.
I am planning to take a small plane from Florida with a buddy and island hop the Bahamas for 7 to 10 days.
ISG reports that P4P is virtually non-existent in the Bahamas so I got this idea.
Is it possible to set something up and have a Columbian chica fly commercially to the Bahamas and spend a week in the Caribbean?
No VISA is necessary, only a passport.
Thanks for any info or help.
Bob
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010; 1363752]I am planning to take a small plane from Florida with a buddy and island hop the Bahamas for 7 to 10 days.
ISG reports that P4P is virtually non-existent in the Bahamas so I got this idea.
Is it possible to set something up and have a Columbian chica fly commercially to the Bahamas and spend a week in the Caribbean?
No VISA is necessary, only a passport.
Thanks for any info or help.
Bob[/QUOTE]If you know that a visa is not required then didn't you answer your own question?
[QUOTE=Chelo; 1363521]Newbie here. Did a quick search and didn't find an answer for this-
I have experience in the US (payment up front) and Uruguay and Argentina (I always paid post session) but what is expected in Colombia?
For a 1 hour session pay up front?
For say 12 hours I wouldn't feel comfortable with that. Do you pay half up front and half at the end?
Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]Never pay upfront unless there is absolutely no other option.
[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1364110]I am planning to take a small plane from Florida with a buddy and island hop the Bahamas for 7 to 10 days.
ISG reports that P4P is virtually non-existent in the Bahamas so I got this idea.
Is it possible to set something up and have a Columbian chica fly commercially to the Bahamas and spend a week in the Caribbean?
No VISA is necessary, only a passport.
Thanks for any info or help.
Bob.
If you know that a visa is not required then didn't you answer your own question?[/QUOTE]I think that the question was more about the possibility of taking a local girl or two with them on their trip and not about the need of passport / visa requirements.
Colombians don't need a visa for the Bahamas? If you say so, check your facts and be sure before you spend all this loot.
To answer your question anything is possible if you have enough money. Is it probable is the real question? There are so many "moving parts" for this project to be a success I'd say don't even try to bring a Colombian girl. I can tell you first hand (SO will pretty much any of the OG heads) that a Colombian Chick is as dependable as a umbrella full of holes! They ALWAYS say one thing and do another or make plans and never show up! Why don't you and dude do a bit more digging and find a girl there in the Bahamas or even one in the States. It might cost more but it will save you a ton of frustration.
Not trying to be a hater but it SOUND awesome in theory. It's the application that does not sound likely.
Think about it, you're going to ask two RANDOM chicks to come escort you and your boy to the Bahamas for a few days? Where you going to find the girls? What if there is no chemistry? What if they want to be paid a deposit / travel expenses and then try to squeeze you? What if they offer shitty service? What if the pics they send you are old and they went from Lindas to Gordas? What if they say yes then don't show up at the airport and you and buddy are S. O. L and maybe out a few bucks cash and tickets for the flight? This just off the top of my head.
Also, Most the working girls in Colombia have lives, school or university, family and kids, ect. Family They just CAN"T get up and go on a working vacation, no matter how much fun it sounds, especially if it is kind of short notice. They'd get all excited and say yes! Then when the planning and doing has to be done the facts would kill their excitement. Just because they're working girls in Colombia does not mean they don't have normal lives.
Try to find a girl in the DR or Panama (Colombia Girls) most of those girls have "work" on their minds so kids / obligations are all squared away.
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010; 1363752]I am planning to take a small plane from Florida with a buddy and island hop the Bahamas for 7 to 10 days.
ISG reports that P4P is virtually non-existent in the Bahamas so I got this idea.
Is it possible to set something up and have a Columbian chica fly commercially to the Bahamas and spend a week in the Caribbean?
No VISA is necessary, only a passport.
Thanks for any info or help.
Bob[/QUOTE]Like Manizales911 said, you answered part of your own question. Colombians do not need Visa for the following countries:
Argentina.
Bahamas 90 days.
Barbados 90 days.
Bolivia.
Brazil.
Chile.
Cuba. Tarjeta de Turismo (Turism Card)
Dominica.
Ecuador 90 Days.
El Salvador 90 Days.
Guyana 30 days visa on arrival.
Honduras 3 Months.
Jamaica 30 days.
Mexico 180 days. Since 9 November 2012.
Montserrat.
Nicaragua Visa on arrival for 90 days $ 20. 00 USS fee.
Panama.
Paraguay.
Peru.
Saint Kitts and Nevis 3 months.
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 1 month.
Trinidad and Tobago.
Uruguay.
Venezuela 90 days.
Logistically, it would be easier if you fly a Colombiana via one of the countries that also doe snot require a Visa.
You will have a hard time finding one with a passport though. It is rare for a Colombiana to have a passport and getting one takes time. The ones with passport are already working in surrounding countries.
[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1364290]Like Manizales911 said, you answered part of your own question. Colombians do not need Visa for the following countries:
Argentina.
Bahamas 90 days.
Barbados 90 days.
Bolivia.
Brazil.
Chile.
Cuba. Tarjeta de Turismo (Turism Card)
Dominica.
Ecuador 90 Days.
El Salvador 90 Days.
Guyana 30 days visa on arrival.
Honduras 3 Months.
Jamaica 30 days.
Mexico 180 days. Since 9 November 2012.
Montserrat.
Nicaragua Visa on arrival for 90 days $ 20. 00 USS fee.
Panama.
Paraguay.
Peru.
Saint Kitts and Nevis 3 months.
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 1 month.
Trinidad and Tobago.
Uruguay.
Venezuela 90 days.
Logistically, it would be easier if you fly a Colombiana via one of the countries that also doe snot require a Visa.
You will have a hard time finding one with a passport though. It is rare for a Colombiana to have a passport and getting one takes time. The ones with passport are already working in surrounding countries.[/QUOTE]My novia obtained a passport in 2 days time in Medellin in October. You apply online and instantly get a date and time for appointment, her's was the next day. She spent 3 hours in the office the first day and 2 hours the next day but exited with her passport. 200, 000 cop. PS. Since Nov 01, 2012, Colombians do not require a visa for Mexico or Costa Rica
[QUOTE=Bart1;1364583]Colombians do not require a visa for Mexico or Costa Rica[/QUOTE]15 day visa on arrival for Thailand now.
[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1363686]Not much has changed. A 3 year summary, Hooters opened Aug 4th 2009, Dollhouse opened June 2010, closed Aug 2010, Loutron moved, PaisaLover got Jailed, MedellinPaisa was killed, AG built a bar, Frank built a baby crib, the airport remodel job now has food and drinks after the final checkpoint, Spirit started flights June 2009, Bbrocs has added more apartments near Lleras, few metro cables got extended, the skyline is more crowded with high rises, prices are a little higher, casa quality is down, girls went full blown RL, girls are fatter and so am I. LMAO[/QUOTE]Good one. Reminds me of Billy Joel's song; [I]We didn't start the fire[/I]
But you know what I mean. This is one of the mongering hotspots of the world and these days you see very few "reports" of what guys did and their recent experiences. RL girls is a good example. As you say, girls are very active o RL but very few reports on who is on RL and who is not.
Thanks. This is what I was looking for. An objective opinion from someone more experienced with Columbians than I.
I have flown several girls in the Phillipines from out islands to Manila & I never had any that just took the money and ran. Each one showed up. BUT as you have pointed out, this is quite a different culture and circumstance.
Thanks, Bob.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1364179]I think that the question was more about the possibility of taking a local girl or two with them on their trip and not about the need of passport / visa requirements.
Not trying to be a hater but it SOUNDS awesome in theory. It's the application that does not sound likely.
Think about it, you're going to ask two RANDOM chicks to come escort you and your boy to the Bahamas for a few days? Where you going to find the girls? What if there is no chemistry? What if they want to be paid a deposit / travel expenses and then try to squeeze you? What if they offer shitty service? What if the pics they send you are old and they went from Lindas to Gordas? What if they say yes then don't show up at the airport and you and buddy are S. O. L and maybe out a few bucks cash and tickets for the flight? This just off the top of my head.
Try to find a girl in the DR or Panama (Colombia Girls) most of those girls have "work" on their minds so kids / obligations are all squared away.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010; 1364789]Thanks. This is what I was looking for. An objective opinion from someone more experienced with Columbians than I.
I have flown several girls in the Phillipines from out islands to Manila & I never had any that just took the money and ran. Each one showed up. BUT as you have pointed out, this is quite a different culture and circumstance.
Thanks, Bob.[/QUOTE]You're welcome Bob!
Honestly I don't know why but it seems that a bunch of guys here are constantly MISSING the point, misreading or misinterpreting posts, or getting hung up on unimportant details.
I am not calling out Vitrea or Manizales911, no beef no drama homies! Hahah. But rather pointing out the lack of reading comprehension here on the boards hahaaha!
For example a few pages back I made a post about finding a language program on line FOR FREE and the first comment was about a TYPO (I put $50 instead of $500) I made instead of anything to do with the down load system or the program! The guy wrote "Where you find Roseta for $50!" I was like "Bro! I just told you HOW to get it for free and you want to get at me for a typo?" A few members thanked me for giving them the heads up and how to so there is some hope that not every member here is a clueless old fart! Hahhaha!
Back to your thing. Look at your own experience; Girls from remote to city, IMO that is going to be easier because that girl is going to go nuts for the big city and a free vacation. She tired of pissing in the same pot! Hahahah. Also Philippines is like the Wild Wild West of hookers and working girls (Never been but that seems to be the impression I get from my buddies that have gone) and are even more poor than most Colombian working girls. Sounds like you could tell us more than most; how far a $1 go in PI vs South America? I imagine much farther in most areas.
I've seen that the girls in Peru, Argentina, Uraguay (in Arg) and Colombia all have a healthy respect for their families and what they know so they keep it on the DL as best they can. Like Manizales911 said, best hit up one of the girls alread working in say Panama or one of the Other Islands because they'll already have their passports. If you think some Mansion x Casa x Prepageo x Stripper chick is going to go wait 4 hours on Monday and then 3 more the next for her passport, and pay $200COP so she can go on a trip with two strange gringos (is you had been with her a few times and she likes you that is another story) you'd better think again. Or maybe you'd like to buy some Swamp Land I have for sale! Ahhaha.
Keep the boards posted if you do make this move and more importantly HOW you made it happen!
[QUOTE=Chelo; 1363521]Newbie here. Did a quick search and didn't find an answer for this-
I have experience in the US (payment up front) and Uruguay and Argentina (I always paid post session) but what is expected in Colombia?
For a 1 hour session pay up front?
For say 12 hours I wouldn't feel comfortable with that. Do you pay half up front and half at the end?
Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]BTW I speak Spanish so I do know what prepago means. Is that standard practice? I got screwed (in not the good way) in Venezuela so thought it best to ask.
[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1364813]You're welcome Bob!
Honestly I don't know why but it seems that a bunch of guys here are constantly MISSING the point, misreading or misinterpreting posts, or getting hung up on unimportant details.
I've seen that the girls in Peru, Argentina, Uraguay.[/QUOTE]The only thing I got out of that post was that you misspelled Uruguay, hahahaha.
Just kidding Slam, don't get your panties in a knot.
Happy Holidays.
Old fart Ricker, but still truckin haha
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1364922]The only thing I got out of that post was that you misspelled Uruguay, hahahaha.
Just kidding Slam, don't get your panties in a knot.
Happy Holidays.
Old fart Ricker, but still truckin haha[/QUOTE]Hahahahah! This what I'm talking about! Hahaha.
All good homie! Happy Christmas mas or what ever or how ever you celebrate to the entire community!
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1364922]The only thing I got out of that post was that you misspelled Uruguay, hahahaha.
Just kidding Slam, don't get your panties in a knot.
Happy Holidays.
Old fart Ricker, but still truckin haha[/QUOTE]Hey, you did not pick on Towelboy for misspelling "Columbians". (smile)
The chicas in on the islands from Colombia are under contract for a 3 month duration. (That was the case with the 4 or 5 chicas I asked in St Maarten) I did not ask any chicas in St Maarten if the casa was holding their passport until the 3 month contract is completed but I would presume that is the case. Re taking a chica on a holiday to the islands, the guy pays the 200, 000cop (do really think a chica would spend her own money on a so called gringo promise of a holiday to the islands). I would think most chicas would be willing to stand in line for several hours to get a passport good for 10 years for free, and a possible holiday trip. Also if the guy was a dickhead she could dump him and go work in the islands now that she has her passport.
Has anyone had dealings with a notary in Medellin that writes up the letter required in Bogota for applying for a conjugal visa? I have heard some notaries will write up a "better convincing letter" for the authorities confirming a relationship than others.
[QUOTE=Bart1;1365160]The chicas in on the islands from Colombia are under contract for a 3 month duration. (That was the case with the 4 or 5 chicas I asked in St Maarten) I did not ask any chicas in St Maarten if the casa was holding their passport until the 3 month contract is completed but I would presume that is the case. Re taking a chica on a holiday to the islands, the guy pays the 200, 000cop (do really think a chica would spend her own money on a so called gringo promise of a holiday to the islands). I would think most chicas would be willing to stand in line for several hours to get a passport good for 10 years for free, and a possible holiday trip. Also if the guy was a dickhead she could dump him and go work in the islands now that she has her passport.[/QUOTE]Well said and that is how it pans out most of the time. Speaking from personal experience, One chica said she needs me to send money for a passport and lost touch with me once I said, I will pay for the flight ticket only after I see a copy of her passport. The other was totally fine with the initial investment. So, it can happen but it is rare and you need to have a relationship before that can a happen. Not going to happen with an RL contact. At the end of the end of the day, like Slam said, these are good discussion of a very romantic thought but in general an impractical idea. I say it conviction as I have thought long and hard about it and even experimented with it.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1365276]Not going to happen with an RL contact. At the end of the end of the day, like Slam said, these are good discussion of a very romantic thought but in general an impractical idea.[/QUOTE]IMHO it's not a romantic thought at all, but a dumb fucking idea. Invest money in a hooker one has never met and make plans to spend a week with her? It would serve the original poster right if she arrived and they had zero chemistry.
Sidenote: I have a friend in Barranquilla. She said her room mate met some guy from Australia online. The guy arrived and they got an apartment together. (Not sure how long he planned to stay, but my friend is still looking for a new room mate and this was October.) Not even a week after the guy arrived he started complaining to my friend that he did not like the girl. It seems he fell in love with her online, but when he got around her and was able to experience her personality and mannerisms he could not stomach her. My friend said for one thing she walks pigeon-toed, and he hates that. Can't see something like that on a cam!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1365317]IMHO it's not a romantic thought at all, but a dumb fucking idea.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I've given up on online dating. It worked great for me in Lima but those are peruvian women who are a different breed of women (friendliest women I have met in SA).
I admit that I need practice picking up chicas in person. Many of us on pfp forums do.
You either connect with someone (in reality) or you purchase a session. Those are my rules to myself as of lately.
When flying with vivacolombia I read about some university students in Medellin who had made a website with a comprehensive routeplanner (I think) with all buslines. Anyone know the URL?
[url]http://www.transporteenlinea.com/[/url]
I found this one but I hope it`s not the one, as I can not seem to find any route planner insert from address and target adress.
why is it that every freaking hotel i try to make a reservation with through their website or email never writes back to say anything? the last time i was in bogota and went to my favorite hotel but it was full because of a big church group. 125 people. the lady gave me the email and said that i could just write to make a reservation next time. well i have done just that and 6 days have passed and not a peep from them. the hotel where i always stay in barranquilla, same thing. the hotel where i always stay in cali, same too. i think the only exception over all these years that i have been going to colombia has been the don jaime in cali. hell they still even send me an email once a year with the price list and i haven't stayed with them in eons. they put all of this work and money into these websites and do not answer correspondence from them. if you want a room in colombia my best experience is that you are best to call and make the reservation or have someone there do it for you.
On Jan 09 I wanted to book 2 return tickets MDE to BOG on Lanchile airline (Lan. Com) for Jan 15 return Jan 17. The Colombian site price was 300, 560cop for 2 return tickets, the US and Canada, sites was $409. USDat1770. Exchange rate 724, 000cop. The Colombia site would not accept my Canadian bank visa card (other times accepted by Avianca when booking in Colombia, so am presuming problem was I was on the Colombia country site instead of the us or canuck site) ps the colombian site spanish only, when the card rejected they gave me the option of paying by cash at a Banco de Bogota. They request I print out an invoice and take it the bank. The website gave me a confirmation # and said my booking held till 2400hrs the same day. I was 2 minutes in the bank as they had a special line for bill paying. All said for 20 minutes extra of my time the saving 424, 000cop, not bad for 15 minutes work in MDE. On another subject when you book an international ticket in Colombia as a extranero a 60, 000 cop tax you have paid is to paid back when checking in at the airport. Twice I have received the money back without requesting but about 2 months ago problems with Copa at MDE checkin, even though confirming email from COPA highlighted make sure to request the refund at the airport checkin.
[quote=mr enternational;1371118]why is it that every freaking hotel i try to make a reservation with through their website or email never writes back to say anything? well i have done just that and 6 days have passed and not a peep from them.[/quote]same thing happened to me, many times. it is a colombian thing. customer service is absolutely close to non-existence on this subject. i showed up at one of these hotels in medellin, showed them a copy of the email with their email address, and was told they never received it. go figure. any any rate,
cheers.
[QUOTE=Bart1;1371591]On another subject when you book an international ticket in Colombia as a extranero a 60, 000 cop tax you have paid is to paid back when checking in at the airport. Twice I have received the money back without requesting but about 2 months ago problems with Copa at MDE checkin, even though confirming email from COPA highlighted make sure to request the refund at the airport checkin.[/QUOTE]That must be the IVA. It is the same at many hotels. Quite ironic seeing that most places charge foreigners more for shit than the locals. And in some places it is even institutionalized. For instance in Peru, a domestic airline ticket for a Peruano costs much less than it does for a gringo.
For those guys who have visited Colombia and Peru: here in Lima, on "Perutops" there is a section for Colombian working girls, they sure look very attractive; I can not find on "Perutops" any review on them. In general, do working girls in Colombia as attractive as the ones here in Peru? The price they charge, if you call, is 200 soles, local money. The price sure beats what I paid in "Cabukicho" $ 140 for an old Chinese working girl, hell.
[QUOTE=Samu Ray;1387264]In general, do working girls in Colombia as attractive as the ones here in Peru? The price they charge, if you call, is 200 soles, local money.[/QUOTE]To each his own, but most of the Colombian working girls I see outside of Colombia have had extreme plastic surgery. Fake ass, fake tits, and sometimes something done to their face. Not my cup of tea.
The question was posted in Cali section but I thought it is more relevant in the general section.
[QUOTE=XXXXXXXXX]You guys are paying like 20-30 dollars for hot Colombian women? Count me in! How does Cali compare to Medellin and Cartagena? I will have a chance to go to Colombia soon.[/QUOTE]"Hot" is in the eye of the beholder. Generally speaking, it is extremely rare to consistently find hot girls for that price anywhere. In most major cities in Colombia the supply side (girls) is so high that you might occasionally run into a hottie that is just starting in the business and she is likely to start in a low priced casa. If she is truly hot and in demand, she will soon move out of there into higher priced markets within that city or go out of the country. I found this to be especially true re Cali. Some of the hottest and sweetest Colombians I have been with with are from Cali or surrounding small towns and incidentally I have met them all outside Cali, such as Panama, Costa rica, Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena and Saint Martin.
With that experience, I must have had high expectations when I went to Cali but I was sorely disappointed with the local talent.
Don't get me wrong. You might and probably will still have a great time in Cali but you need to set your expectations right. In my opinion, what happens in town's like MDE and Bogota is that the girls have some high-end outlet options where they can actually make good / decent money that keeps the talent in the cities rather than preferentially exporting them. The local market in Cali does not seem to support high-end talent.
When I travel to Latin America for mongering, I'm already spending couple of thousand dollars in traveling costs and thousands of miles to get there. The last thing I do is look for a $14. 50 deal. If you find one, that is great but what I care is value. For those who know, this big difference between getting something for cheap and finding a value. Like warren Buffet says, don't buy a cheap stock. Buy a value stock. To me, latinas provide the best value of any other girls in the world. The combination of beauty, friendliness, passion for life, dance, song, music and sex is unbeatable. For me I would rather spend $100 to $300 if needed (I draw the line too :-D) , and spend an evening with a beautiful girl who I can remember and dream about for the next few weeks rather than bang a chic for 10 minutes and not even remember her face the next day.
The above are general comments. Please know that I have done the $14. 50 "wham-Bam-thank you ma'am" as well but over the years, my preferences have changed. These comments are personal opinions of one monger and is clearly a minority opinion on this great board.
Have fun and keep contributing.
[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1395767]The question was posted in Cali section but I thought it is more relevant in the general section.
"Hot" is in the eye of the beholder. Generally speaking, it is extremely rare to consistently find hot girls for that price anywhere. In most major cities in Colombia the supply side (girls) is so high that you might occasionally run into a hottie that is just starting in the business and she is likely to start in a low priced casa. If she is truly hot and in demand, she will soon move out of there into higher priced markets within that city or go out of the country. I found this to be especially true re Cali. Some of the hottest and sweetest Colombians I have been with with are from Cali or surrounding small towns and incidentally I have met them all outside Cali, such as Panama, Costa rica, Medellin, Bogota, Cartagena and Saint Martin.
With that experience, I must have had high expectations when I went to Cali but I was sorely disappointed with the local talent.
Don't get me wrong. You might and probably will still have a great time in Cali but you need to set your expectations right. In my opinion, what happens in town's like MDE and Bogota is that the girls have some high-end outlet options where they can actually make good / decent money that keeps the talent in the cities rather than preferentially exporting them. The local market in Cali does not seem to support high-end talent.
When I travel to Latin America for mongering, I'm already spending couple of thousand dollars in traveling costs and thousands of miles to get there. The last thing I do is look for a $14. 50 deal. If you find one, that is great but what I care is value. For those who know, this big difference between getting something for cheap and finding a value. Like warren Buffet says, don't buy a cheap stock. Buy a value stock. To me, latinas provide the best value of any other girls in the world. The combination of beauty, friendliness, passion for life, dance, song, music and sex is unbeatable. For me I would rather spend $100 to $300 if needed (I draw the line too :-D) , and spend an evening with a beautiful girl who I can remember and dream about for the next few weeks rather than bang a chic for 10 minutes and not even remember her face the next day.
The above are general comments. Please know that I have done the $14. 50 "wham-Bam-thank you ma'am" as well but over the years, my preferences have changed. These comments are personal opinions of one monger and is clearly a minority opinion on this great board.
Have fun and keep contributing.[/QUOTE]I like your logic Vitrea.
So. Mr Warren Buffet of the mongering world, a question for you.
I am weighing up options between Cartegena and Medellin for a 4 night trip.
I like the idea of Medellin and particularly the Plaza Hotel set up. Seems like a normal hotel in disguise that has chicas available and a bar / night club, La Cueva, just underneath. Good. Seems very laid out and easy. Is this place previously the mansions?
Then there is Cartegena, I could stay in a beach side hotel. When the mood takes me grab a freelance beach chica and / or hot LDV for fun.
So. I am looking for value in the true sense, not just cheap.
Sunday Night.
On CNN Anthony Bourdain In Colombia.
IMHO nothing in Cartagena is good value for your $. Stick with Medellin.
In Cali you don't NEED high end options. The cheaper options are pretty amazing.
[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1416573]IMHO nothing in Cartagena is good value for your $. Stick with Medellin.
In Cali you don't NEED high end options. The cheaper options are pretty amazing.[/QUOTE]The first time I drank aguardiente was at a spot in La Sexta in Cali when I was with a chick and she ordered it. I still have the empty bottle in my curio. It was 28k pesos. Last night in Zona Rosa in Bogota my girl ordered the same thing and it was 50k. At the Galeria discos it was a little more. The same bottle in Exito is 9k.
I did find food and taxis to be a good value in Cartagena. Places to stay and girls were astronomical IMHO. I have never gone for a high end option anywhere. To me pussy is pussy. I have never paid more than US$50 for p4p and that is for long time.
[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1416504]Sunday Night.
On CNN Anthony Bourdain In Colombia.[/QUOTE]Bourdain's new "travel" show through Colombia was informative, entertaining, and gave a realistic view of the country. It was less about food than his "No Reservations" series. He skipped Medellin since he previously did a "No Reservations" show there.
I liked the fact that although he praised Colombia and its people, at the end of the show, he readily admitted that Colombia has some serious problems that they need to overcome. As one of the Colombians on his show said, if he was the President of Colombia, he wouldn't know how to turn his country around since it has so many problems.
In case you missed it, it will repeat Friday and Saturday. You might be able to see online in a few days.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/video/shows/anthony-bourdain-parts-unknown/index.html[/url]
[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1416504]Sunday Night.
On CNN Anthony Bourdain In Colombia.[/QUOTE]
Has anybody made an purchase of a airplane ticket on viva Colombia using a foreign credit card? I know that Avianca makes you go through the other country page and quotes prices in USD (of course more expensive then in COP) if you have a foreign credit card. Also how difficult is it to open a bank account in Colombia and get a local credit card? Has anybody any experience on the subject?
Wreck
[QUOTE=WreckDiver; 1425557]Has anybody made an purchase of a airplane ticket on viva Colombia using a foreign credit card? I know that Avianca makes you go through the other country page and quotes prices in USD (of course more expensive then in COP) if you have a foreign credit card. Also how difficult is it to open a bank account in Colombia and get a local credit card? Has anybody any experience on the subject?
Wreck[/QUOTE]When I was in Colombia in April I spend an entire day asking at serveral banks if a foreigner can open a bank account. Finally at Banco de Bogota they explained in detail that in order to open a bank account one need to have a Colombian residence. Thus it is almost impossible for a foreigner not living in Colombia. Colombian nationals need a new cedular (I'd card) if they want to open an account. The old one cannot be used for business purposes anymore.
Avianca tickets. I confirm that there are problems with foreign credit cards although I managed serveral times to order a ticket on-line on their Colombian web site using my European credit card. No idea why it sometimes works and sometimes not. Please note that I am an Avianca frequent flyer and this may help.
VivaCol and Avianca don't take foreign cc's. Use copa or lan (make sure it's pricing in col pesos). Foreign bank accts / credit card. Forget it. They're about 25 years in the past when it comes to that. Stick with capital one and buy your tickets on lan.
[QUOTE=WreckDiver; 1425557]Has anybody made an purchase of a airplane ticket on viva Colombia using a foreign credit card? I know that Avianca makes you go through the other country page and quotes prices in USD (of course more expensive then in COP) if you have a foreign credit card. Also how difficult is it to open a bank account in Colombia and get a local credit card? Has anybody any experience on the subject?
Wreck[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TuDueno;1425607]Avianca tickets. I confirm that there are problems with foreign credit cards although I managed serveral times to order a ticket on-line on their Colombian web site using my European credit card. No idea why it sometimes works and sometimes not. Please note that I am an Avianca frequent flyer and this may help.[/QUOTE]Also try using a different browser.
[QUOTE=TuDueno; 1425607]When I was in Colombia in April I spend an entire day asking at serveral banks if a foreigner can open a bank account. Finally at Banco de Bogota they explained in detail that in order to open a bank account one need to have a Colombian residence. Thus it is almost impossible for a foreigner not living in Colombia. Colombian nationals need a new cedular (I'd card) if they want to open an account. The old one cannot be used for business purposes anymore.
Avianca tickets. I confirm that there are problems with foreign credit cards although I managed serveral times to order a ticket on-line on their Colombian web site using my European credit card. No idea why it sometimes works and sometimes not. Please note that I am an Avianca frequent flyer and this may help.[/QUOTE]It's a problem with your credit card company. Most have problems with foreign transactions. You need to call them to unblock their fraud detection.
[QUOTE=WreckDiver; 1425557]Has anybody made an purchase of a airplane ticket on viva Colombia using a foreign credit card? I know that Avianca makes you go through the other country page and quotes prices in USD (of course more expensive then in COP) if you have a foreign credit card. Also how difficult is it to open a bank account in Colombia and get a local credit card? Has anybody any experience on the subject?
Wreck[/QUOTE]Almost had a canceled flight due to crazy airline Avianca. I am in Medellin and booked a ticket for myself with canceled flight credit. Confirmed with the agent that I could purchase an airline ticket for my Colombian girlfriend with my credit card. My credit card company is very familiar with travels abroad and I know it was not their fault. Booked flight online. 2 days later I come in to my apartment at night, turn on my computer, and check my emails. Avianca has sent me an email stating that I have to call them within 6 hours or the flight will be cancelled. The email was sent three hours earlier. I still had three hours left. Spoke to an agent who confirmed that if I had not checked my emails the flight would have been cancelled. What company does not give at least 24 hours+ to respond. The flight was more than a month away. To make a long story short, process took 45 minutes to resolve and I was told it was a security check by the airline because the credit card had been used under another name.
Called Avianca with 800 number through SKYPE for free. Crazy policy! What can you do? Other than this I have pleasant experiences with Avainca and I have flown with them about 5 times.
The processes living in Latin America can make one crazy at times. You just have to view it as cost of living abroad.
Hi All,
I see that I'm not the only one with this problem.
1. I tried a different browser not the problem.
2. I can by tickes on Avianca so my credit card is fine.
I still don't know what the problem is with viva Colombia but I can buy tickets on copa, avianca and Lan. Also I did buy tickets with viva Colombia last year without a problem. One piece of information what copa, avianca and Lan do is to let you enter the webpage under "other countries" this increases the price of the ticket beacuse all the promotional prices are taken out which means that you are paying for "economy extra" class I. E. Almost business class.
One idea, I'm european, but all americans have you tried to open a citibank account in Colombia given the fact that you have a citibank account in the US? Would that work in this way you don't need a local I'd-card. Or plan B would a Avianca gold card enable better service for payment? I mean I can't believe that its a account transaction issue beacuse the airlines per definition fly to other countries with other currencies.
/wreck
[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1425807]Almost had a canceled flight due to crazy airline Avianca. I am in Medellin and booked a ticket for myself with canceled flight credit. Confirmed with the agent that I could purchase an airline ticket for my Colombian girlfriend with my credit card. My credit card company is very familiar with travels abroad and I know it was not their fault. Booked flight online. 2 days later I come in to my apartment at night, turn on my computer, and check my emails. Avianca has sent me an email stating that I have to call them within 6 hours or the flight will be cancelled. The email was sent three hours earlier. I still had three hours left. Spoke to an agent who confirmed that if I had not checked my emails the flight would have been cancelled. What company does not give at least 24 hours+ to respond. The flight was more than a month away. To make a long story short, process took 45 minutes to resolve and I was told it was a security check by the airline because the credit card had been used under another name.
Called Avianca with 800 number through SKYPE for free. Crazy policy! What can you do? Other than this I have pleasant experiences with Avainca and I have flown with them about 5 times.
The processes living in Latin America can make one crazy at times. You just have to view it as cost of living abroad.[/QUOTE]Not sure about all of the drama with Avianca. If you live in Medellin or any other large city, there is an Avianca / Deprisa office on almost every block. Just walk through Poblado and I know of at least 3 within a half a mile of each other. They accept any country's credit card and they are usually fast. Also you can make a reservation and pay by foreign credit card at the airport prior to your flight.
[QUOTE=WreckDiver; 1425896]Hi All,
One idea, I'm european, but all americans have you tried to open a citibank account in Colombia given the fact that you have a citibank account in the US? Would that work in this way you don't need a local I'd-card. Or plan B would a Avianca gold card enable better service for payment? I mean I can't believe that its a account transaction issue beacuse the airlines per definition fly to other countries with other currencies.
/wreck[/QUOTE]I had a citibank account. I could use the citibank atm in Colombia for free (no transaction fee) but I could not open a citibank account in Colombia. They even claimed to have a particular restrictive policy because they are an international bank. Further I believe that the residence requirement is per Colombian law rather than per individual bank's policy.
[QUOTE=TuDueno;1425949]I had a citibank account. I could use the citibank atm in Colombia for free (no transaction fee) but I could not open a citibank account in Colombia. They even claimed to have a particular restrictive policy because they are an international bank. Further I believe that the residence requirement is per Colombian law rather than per individual bank's policy.[/QUOTE]That is correct. It is government policy and not a bank policy. You can't open a bank account in Colombia unless you have a Colombian Cedula. Foreigners can get a Colombian cedula if you have a certain amount invested in Colombia.
[QUOTE]VivaCol and Avianca don't take foreign cc's. Use copa or lan (make sure it's pricing in col pesos). Foreign bank accts / credit card. Forget it. They're about 25 years in the past when it comes to that. Stick with capital one and buy your tickets on lan.[/QUOTE]Not exactly true.
With Avianca: You have to use select the "country of origin" and it has to be same as the country that issued the credit card. That is true with many carriers all over the world. I think the system is designed to give special deals in some countries and not have to have same deals for other countries. I would say that it is quite sophisticated. :-D.
BTW, there was article recently is money (or Kiplinger) recently how many smaller countries are more sophisticated than USA in terms of fraud protection and CC security (as mandated by their governments). They used Colombia as an example of how it is far better than USA!
Mongers-
Actually, you can get a cedula and open a bank account, contract services (TV, internet, mobile phone, etc) and get a drivers license on a one year business visa, which costs $0 USD from any Colombian consulate in the USA and is very easy to obtain.
Suerte,
Rock Harders.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1425983]That is correct. It is government policy and not a bank policy. You can't open a bank account in Colombia unless you have a Colombian Cedula. Foreigners can get a Colombian cedula if you have a certain amount invested in Colombia.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1425986]BTW, there was article recently is money (or Kiplinger) recently how many smaller countries are more sophisticated than USA in terms of fraud protection and CC security (as mandated by their governments). They used Colombia as an example of how it is far better than USA![/QUOTE]May be true but the thieves in Colombia are a 100 times more sophisticated too, card cloning is very common in Colombia, almost unheard of in the USA. I would never use a CC in a store or restaurant in Colombia and when using an ATM I make sure there isn't a skimmer on the key pad and cover the key pad with my free hand when entering my pin.
[QUOTE=Rock Harders; 1426004]Mongers-
Actually, you can get a cedula and open a bank account, contract services (TV, internet, mobile phone, etc) and get a drivers license on a one year business visa, which costs $0 USD from any Colombian consulate in the USA and is very easy to obtain.
Suerte,
Rock Harders.[/QUOTE]Rock Harders I googled Colombia and business visa all the requirements looked easy but a point caught my attention. What is the minimum amount of money that the Colombian embassy would feel comfortable in seeing for the visa application? (5000 or 10 000 or 500 000 USD)
They are very imprecise on the website do you have any experience in getting a business visa application approved?
Also does anybody have an idea of the transaction costs to wire money to your colombian account?
/Wreck
[QUOTE=WreckDiver; 1426463]Rock Harders I googled Colombia and business visa all the requirements looked easy but a point caught my attention. What is the minimum amount of money that the Colombian embassy would feel comfortable in seeing for the visa application? (5000 or 10 000 or 500 000 USD)
They are very imprecise on the website do you have any experience in getting a business visa application approved?
Also does anybody have an idea of the transaction costs to wire money to your colombian account?
/Wreck[/QUOTE]Forget about amount of money. You need a letter from a real company saying that you are going to invstigate business opportunities in Colombia. The visa is good for 2 years. The consulate charges about 100 USD. Which must be paid by wire transfer (no credit cards) or cash. When you have the visa you go to das office on calle 100 in Bogota and apply for cedula. A few months and you get contrasena, which is temp, but ask for resolution that tells the bank to accept it.
Citibank on calle 72 at k8 has visa debit cards with your account, which can be used internationally.
[QUOTE=WreckDiver; 1425896]Hi All,
I see that I'm not the only one with this problem.
1. I tried a different browser not the problem.
2. I can by tickes on Avianca so my credit card is fine.
I still don't know what the problem is with viva Colombia but I can buy tickets on copa, avianca and Lan. Also I did buy tickets with viva Colombia last year without a problem. One piece of information what copa, avianca and Lan do is to let you enter the webpage under "other countries" this increases the price of the ticket beacuse all the promotional prices are taken out which means that you are paying for "economy extra" class I. E. Almost business class.
/wreck[/QUOTE]Like I mentioned before. Did you call your credit card company to see why your card was declined. Avianca is a different company so just because it got accepeted there, it does not guarantee Viva will also.
[QUOTE=Zing23; 1426498]Forget about amount of money. You need a letter from a real company saying that you are going to invstigate business opportunities in Colombia. The visa is good for 2 years. The consulate charges about 100 USD. Which must be paid by wire transfer (no credit cards) or cash. When you have the visa you go to das office on calle 100 in Bogota and apply for cedula. A few months and you get contrasena, which is temp, but ask for resolution that tells the bank to accept it.
Citibank on calle 72 at k8 has visa debit cards with your account, which can be used internationally.[/QUOTE]With this visa you can enter and leave Colombia as often and for as long as you like, for 2 years. I don't know about Renewing it, but should be possible. Without a cedula you cannot easily open a bank account in Colombia. You get this with the visa, from das.
With a bank account, you will get a local debit card, but it may not be useful for buying things internationally. The citibank Debit card is VISA, good anywhere.
Just because you have a cedula and bank account and money, does not give you a credit history in Colombia. You need a job with income, then go to data credit office and apply to get a credit history. Then you can get a credit card. I am sure there is more, but I cannot think of it right now. (yes, you can buy property or rent etc with your foreigner Cedula / contrasena).
-zing
[QUOTE=Zing23; 1427040]With this visa you can enter and leave Colombia as often and for as long as you like, for 2 years. I don't know about Renewing it, but should be possible. Without a cedula you cannot easily open a bank account in Colombia. You get this with the visa, from das.
With a bank account, you will get a local debit card, but it may not be useful for buying things internationally. The citibank Debit card is VISA, good anywhere.
Just because you have a cedula and bank account and money, does not give you a credit history in Colombia. You need a job with income, then go to data credit office and apply to get a credit history. Then you can get a credit card. I am sure there is more, but I cannot think of it right now. (yes, you can buy property or rent etc with your foreigner Cedula / contrasena).
-zing[/QUOTE]Excellent summary. Let me add one does not need a Colombian Cedula to buy property, rent or invest in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1426186]May be true but the thieves in Colombia are a 100 times more sophisticated too[/QUOTE]And they are worldwide. They are over here in Thailand committing crimes and hooking. No limit.
Colombians & American Collude in Bt12 Million Bangkok Heist.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/06/10/american-colombians-involved-in-bt12-million-bangkok-heist/[/url]
Four Colombian nationals have been arrested for alleged multiple breakins at luxury homes in Bangkok, Nonthaburi and Chon Buri, using a car they rented to transport their loot.
[url]http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Colombians-held-in-spate-of-burglaries-30183356.html[/url]
Thanks Zing.
[QUOTE=Zing23; 1427040]With this visa you can enter and leave Colombia as often and for as long as you like, for 2 years. I don't know about Renewing it, but should be possible. Without a cedula you cannot easily open a bank account in Colombia. You get this with the visa, from das.
With a bank account, you will get a local debit card, but it may not be useful for buying things internationally. The citibank Debit card is VISA, good anywhere.
Just because you have a cedula and bank account and money, does not give you a credit history in Colombia. You need a job with income, then go to data credit office and apply to get a credit history. Then you can get a credit card. I am sure there is more, but I cannot think of it right now. (yes, you can buy property or rent etc with your foreigner Cedula / contrasena).
-zing[/QUOTE]
So, this girl from Santa Marta randomly added me a while back. I accepted because she was really quite stunning in her photo but thought nothing of it. She wrote to me and apologized for adding me but said I had the same name as one of her friend's ex-novios. (The bullshit cough going off in my head). We talk and I think she's kinda cool and I would really like to partake of her charms one day. She pushes me to talk on Skype a lot and finally one day I relent and we talk on Skype.
We get to talking every day and last night she is really pushing to chat on Skype. So, I get home and login to Skype and we start to chat. She gets up for a few seconds disappearing from camera and comes back and we talk some more. Then she hears a knock on her door. She turns the computer around so I can see her go to answer the door. She opens it and a guy in a mask rushes in, she screams as he grabs her arm, she runs to the computer and disconnects from Skype.
A few minutes later (literally like 3-5 minutes have passed) she messages me via WhatsApp that she was robbed and they stole the computer in her apartment and that the computer belonged to her friend and she needs to pay him back. This is all such a terribly, terribly acted performance from start to finish that I almost feel compelled to give this poor heartbroken girl money because she really needs acting lessons. I had never, ever seen anything like this before. It was pretty fantastic, so I thought I'd share it.
This is not for me obviously but can a 19 year old gringo guy go into strip clubs in Medellin and Bogota? Or is it like in the US that they have to be 21 in many of those places. Also is the drinking age 21 in Colombia?
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1433717]This is not for me obviously but can a 19 year old gringo guy go into strip clubs in Medellin and Bogota? Or is it like in the US that they have to be 21 in many of those places. Also is the drinking age 21 in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Drinking age is 18 and loosely enforced, yes a 19 yr. Old can go into any establishment.
[QUOTE=Ndirishguy; 1433420]So, this girl from Santa Marta randomly added me a while back. I accepted because she was really quite stunning in her photo but thought nothing of it. She wrote to me and apologized for adding me but said I had the same name as one of her friend's ex-novios. (The bullshit cough going off in my head). We talk and I think she's kinda cool and I would really like to partake of her charms one day. She pushes me to talk on Skype a lot and finally one day I relent and we talk on Skype.
We get to talking every day and last night she is really pushing to chat on Skype. So, I get home and login to Skype and we start to chat. She gets up for a few seconds disappearing from camera and comes back and we talk some more. Then she hears a knock on her door. She turns the computer around so I can see her go to answer the door. She opens it and a guy in a mask rushes in, she screams as he grabs her arm, she runs to the computer and disconnects from Skype.
A few minutes later (literally like 3-5 minutes have passed) she messages me via WhatsApp that she was robbed and they stole the computer in her apartment and that the computer belonged to her friend and she needs to pay him back. This is all such a terribly, terribly acted performance from start to finish that I almost feel compelled to give this poor heartbroken girl money because she really needs acting lessons. I had never, ever seen anything like this before. It was pretty fantastic, so I thought I'd share it.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are giving us an urban legend but very entertaining nonetheless!
Hi where do you get a std test in a large colombian city? I. E. Medellin, Bogota ect please pm if that is more conviniant. thanks Wreck
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1387284]To each his own, but most of the Colombian working girls I see outside of Colombia have had extreme plastic surgery. Fake ass, fake tits, and sometimes something done to their face. Not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]Colombianas and Venolzolanas are among girls from some parts of Brasil the most beautiful, sexi, passionate, but also tricky girls in the world.
Beuaty has such high value, but in Colombia there are so many of them that price and attitude is really great for us, for everybody.
In Perú I did hardly see any babes, often the most hottest one's where from Colombia!
Of course there are hot Peruanas, but they have few competitors are get the upp hand over the men, or sex tourist. In Colombia, you find babes everywhere. God gave Colombianas beauty, sexuality, openeness, and also self interest to make a living out of this, as prepagos, or get married to a wealthy man or extranjero. That is so all over the world, but in Colombia it is. Well, it's Heaven, if you can spot the Barracudas, which will learn easy.
Lately, the have starting to enhace their asses into propotions that looks absurd in jeans!
The prepago culture is old in Colombia, Colombians cheat on each other period! They are hot blooded people!
I found, after living 6 months in both Perú and Colombia the diference being striking. Perú is still a good destination, but Colombia is No. 1 in the world and the females in Panama, Costa Rica, Perú, Ecuador can't simply compete, they have no chance!
Hi,
Thanks to everybody that has answered my question about STD just to clarify it was nothing serious I see it as a rite of passage in Colombia. If you are staying around Santa Fe in Bogota the best place is:
Clinica de Marly.
Calle 53 and 13.
They were effective and profesional.
/Wreck
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1437021]Colombianas and Venolzolanas are among girls from some parts of Brasil the most beautiful, sexi, passionate, but also tricky girls in the world.
Beuaty has such high value, but in Colombia there are so many of them that price and attitude is really great for us, for everybody.
In Perú I did hardly see any babes, often the most hottest one's where from Colombia!
Of course there are hot Peruanas, but they have few competitors are get the upp hand over the men, or sex tourist. In Colombia, you find babes everywhere. God gave Colombianas beauty, sexuality, openeness, and also self interest to make a living out of this, as prepagos, or get married to a wealthy man or extranjero. That is so all over the world, but in Colombia it is. Well, it's Heaven, if you can spot the Barracudas, which will learn easy.
Lately, the have starting to enhace their asses into propotions that looks absurd in jeans!
The prepago culture is old in Colombia, Colombians cheat on each other period! They are hot blooded people!
I found, after living 6 months in both Perú and Colombia the diference being striking. Perú is still a good destination, but Colombia is No. 1 in the world and the females in Panama, Costa Rica, Perú, Ecuador can't simply compete, they have no chance![/QUOTE]I guess if you like latin girls with white skin Colombia would be a great place. I would prefer a beautiful dark skinned peruana any day over a colombian girl. Actually I've seen more beautiful women in Tijuana than in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1438945]I guess if you like latin girls with white skin Colombia would be a great place. I would prefer a beautiful dark skinned peruana any day over a colombian girl. Actually I've seen more beautiful women in Tijuana than in Medellin.[/QUOTE]As we all know, Colombia has a good mix of girls; white, dark black and all in between.
From Barranquilla to Cali, Medellin, etc, such a nice variety.
In all my travels, I'd rate las Colombianas and the Venezolanas as numero uno in the overall beauty department.
As far as Tijuana, and Mexico in general, well lets just say we must have different tastes in women LOL
[QUOTE=Ndirishguy; 1433420]So, this girl from Santa Marta randomly added me a while back. I accepted because she was really quite stunning in her photo but thought nothing of it. She wrote to me and apologized for adding me but said I had the same name as one of her friend's ex-novios. (The bullshit cough going off in my head). We talk and I think she's kinda cool and I would really like to partake of her charms one day. She pushes me to talk on Skype a lot and finally one day I relent and we talk on Skype..[/QUOTE]That is the funniest story I ever heard. You know the sad part, if she does that to 10 gringos there will probably be 2 or 3 suckers that send her money. You should have said that you sent the money to WU. Let her go down a bunch of times until she realizes she was made a fool of. I had a girl in Brazil tell me her mom needed a operation and that's why she worked at a terma, and I can tell she was waiting for me to say " here is some money to help out" She was so good in bed, I bought an hour in the nice room to "help" her mom. LOL!
[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1438945]I guess if you like latin girls with white skin Colombia would be a great place. I would prefer a beautiful dark skinned peruana any day over a colombian girl. Actually I've seen more beautiful women in Tijuana than in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Colombian chicas come in all colors from black to brown to white and all shades in between. I'm not sure they're the best looking in Latin and South America. But in my opinion they use the most make-up to beautify themselves. The hair styles, the makeup, the clothes, the high-heel shoes, and the cosmetics. Max Faxtor and Clairol must do a big business in Colombia.
Firt time to Medellin, best way to get cab at airport? And also how much is the ride going to cost? Any and all info on Medellin will be appreacated! I arrive sun June 30 staying at apt for 8 nights!
Thanks
I ask some simple questions, never seem to get answered, am I doing something wrong?
[QUOTE=RacShack; 1439795]Firt time to Medellin, best way to get cab at airport? And also how much is the ride going to cost? Any and all info on Medellin will be appreacated! I arrive sun June 30 staying at apt for 8 nights!
Thanks[/QUOTE]You asked a question about dress code under travel announcements so I will answer this first.
Dress Code: Never wear shorts. Imagine being in middle school and wearing shorts is not cool. Welcome to Medellin and Latin America in general. Jeans and Cargo Pants are fine. T-Shirts and collared shirts are fine. Regular sneakers are fine also.
Airport: Grabbing a cab off the curb at the airport is fine. Rate is 57k-60k. Either exchange a small amount at the airport or offer the cab $35 (65k). Since you are staying in an apartment, allow about 15 minutes extra to call a cab for your return trip to the airport. Cabs normal arrive to apartments in 5-10 minutes.
If you plan on coming back to Colombia, take $200+ in Pesos home with you so you don't have to rush to a cambio or the bank when you come back.
I hope this helps.
GL
[QUOTE=RacShack; 1439795]Firt time to Medellin, best way to get cab at airport? And also how much is the ride going to cost? Any and all info on Medellin will be appreacated! I arrive sun June 30 staying at apt for 8 nights!
Thanks[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RacShack;1440039]I ask some simple questions, never seem to get answered, am I doing something wrong?[/QUOTE]Yes, you should have posted this question in the Medellin forum instead of the General Info forum.
I do not know about taking a taxi at the airport because I always arrange to have a driver waiting for me at the airport via the people I book with. It costs me 72,000 pesos, or $42 dollars. I'm sure getting a regular taxi at the airport can be cheaper, but my driver is in a regular vehicle versus a yellow taxi which just screams "this person is just coming from the airport and very likely has a laptop, smart phone, and a ton of cash on him". Plus he knows where he is going (to drop me off). Taxi drivers at the airport may know how to get you to Poblado, but if they do not know where your hotel or apartment is (handing them a piece of paper with an address on it may only give them a general idea of the area you are trying to get to. You will find this out if you do any Casa runs), and if you cannot explain it to them in Spanish, vas a tener muchas problemas amigo.
Some people even take the bus!
[QUOTE=RacShack; 1439795]Firt time to Medellin, best way to get cab at airport? And also how much is the ride going to cost? Any and all info on Medellin will be appreacated! I arrive sun June 30 staying at apt for 8 nights!
Thanks[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.taxiaeropuertorionegro.com/files/TARIFAS2013.pdf[/url]
Get a fare printout based on area at a taxi stand, give it to a driver, later pass him your own printout with exact location.
[QUOTE=RacShack; 1439795]Firt time to Medellin, best way to get cab at airport? And also how much is the ride going to cost? Any and all info on Medellin will be appreacated! I arrive sun June 30 staying at apt for 8 nights!
Thanks[/QUOTE]I take the bus.
7, 000 pesos
You forgot the biggest of all. The silicone. Plastic surgeons must do big business in Colombia!
And Silicone. Plastic surgeons must do big business in Colombia!
For some reason my post (s) didn't pick up BayBoy's quote from 6-28. Sorry for the confusion.
Can anyone suggest the most economic way to travel to Colombia now? Air Fares have sky rocketed and I am
Willing to make stopovers if I can save some money.
Thanks to anyone that can help!
Depends on when you want to go?
Now it is high, but later like October it's $400-$500.
[url]http://www.kayak.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=IamLookin; 1443329]Can anyone suggest the most economic way to travel to Colombia now? Air Fares have sky rocketed and I am
Willing to make stopovers if I can save some money.
Thanks to anyone that can help![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IamLookin; 1443329]Can anyone suggest the most economic way to travel to Colombia now? Air Fares have sky rocketed and I am
Willing to make stopovers if I can save some money.
Thanks to anyone that can help![/QUOTE]Miles bro! I use my CC that is attached to an Airline for everything! Gas, eat, golf, bills, everything that using a CC isn't obnoxious. Most of these airlines x cc have other partnerships with merchants and you get bonus miles if you click via their wed site. For example I set $70 worth of flowers for a birthday and there was a bonus (just for flowers, not the candies, balloons, or shipping & handle) so I got a bonus 1000 miles! They have a 2 for $1 at home depot and other useful stores. You just have to click through the special web site. I needed some new gym clohes; Sports Authority had a 2 for $1 so I got my stuff and 160 bonus miles! This is the best way to do it IMO.
Gentlemen, this is a repost of a report that could just as well have been written in the Medellin / Rio de Janerio / whatever thread on this eminent forum.
And if this repost only save 1 of us to do the same misstake, then it was worth the repost.
Big thanks goes out to Skogis for the original report posted under Asia. Thailand. Bangkok Reports #23734.
Start of report:
Like at the zoo where you see signs "don't feed the animals" there should have been signs at immigrations, as I guess the majority of visitors into Thai and the Phils actually have to pass through here, saying "don't sponsor prostitutes" (I don't speak of normal compensation pre session).
I read in other forums as well and I feel so sorry for all the misleaded people out there thinking they found a special girl (in a bar, on the street, in a gogo, in a datingsite etc etc). Let her be special only when you are with her (atleast that is how I do it).
What surprises me by far the most is farangs (Farangs=thai expression for western men) actualy sponsering girls they meet online and have not even met. Laugh or cry I don't know what I pick. Normaly the glory midway I guess. The girls for sure laugh.
True story: Last time in Manila (1 month or so ago) I had this beautiful datingsitegirl coming over to my hotel. We started drinking and talking and as she got tipsy she spoke quite openly about her line of operation. She logged on my Ipad and showed me her communication (mail, skype etc) with a few guys.
OMG I laughed and cried at the same time. They had all only met her through internet and a few were based in Europe and one in Canada and they all start to send her quite decent ammount of money so she would clear her scheduel if they were to set foot in her vicinity.
From 4 punters she recieved 50000php (approx 40000bht) per month. I was so facinated so I read and read and almost forgot the girl. She actually told me she had other friends as well doing the same and she thought it was the easiest work in the world as they were not to fuck these guys no matter what (atleast so she claimed).
2 good question she raised (she was a eduacated girl).
1. Why I take normal job when I get this kind of money just chatting on internet (not even strip as she told me)?
And 2. Are all foreign guys this stupid?
The first question I told her I see your point and on the second I responded "atleast not me"Yeah I told her that to) but also I told her I simply could not explain why people would do such a thing as throwing money out the window. Then we got down to business.
End of report.
Happy hunting, Ken Apples
I read your report with interest Ken. My girlfriend in Thailand operates a similar "service" with her Internet clients and manages to earn quite a bit of money from them. However, I don't think the customers are dumb but are getting what they are unable to find in their own country. I am quite happy with her efforts to earn money like this (as she gets nothing from me when I am in UK) and if her services eventually find her a long term partner then good luck to her. There are plenty more Tilaks in LoS.
Ken Apple's very worthwhile post reminds me of an experience I had many, many years ago in Rio. I had just started going there and met a Garota that I got along with very well. She spoke English (so obviously a veteran pro) and IMO was very hot. We exchanged contacts and before my next visit, I told her I was coming down. She told me I could stay at her apartment, and I figured what the hell. If it doesn't work out, I can always move to a Hotel.
I stayed with this chick for over a week and paid nothing other than buying her food and drinks (and we generally ate very cheap). We fucked and partied like crazy (something I can no longer do!). Towards the end of my stay, we were sitting together on the couch and she was looking through her emails. She pointed out emails from foreign guys sending her money and saying they were in love with her. She was laughing hysterically about it and saying basically,"how could these guys be such losers?" The way she said it almost made me queasy. "Losers!" How could she be so mean to guys that were trying to be nice to her?
To this day, that was easily the best learning experience of my mongering career.
Combo and Compadre, your stories put together is a perfect view of the two sides of the coin.
And the p4p world vs nonpro really are not that different.
Each and everybody trying to get the "best deal" possible. Men and women.
I can't blame anyone for trying to get love / sex into their life, just point out the danger of wasting money for nothing.
Still "romantic hopes" has put many men thinking with the wrong head rather than making sure every hard earned buck counts for real.
Nothing has really changed since the stoneage, men keep trying to impress woman. (Some) Women take advantage of the situation.
And the same story keeps repeating, over and over, generation after generation.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85cNRQo1m3A[/url]
Good greetings, Ken Apples
[QUOTE=Ken_Apples; 1445659]Gentlemen, this is a repost of a report that could just as well have been written in the Medellin / Rio de Janerio / whatever thread on this eminent forum.
And if this repost only save 1 of us to do the same misstake, then it was worth the repost.
Big thanks goes out to Skogis for the original report posted under Asia. Thailand. Bangkok Reports #23734.
Start of report:
Like at the zoo where you see signs "don't feed the animals" there should have been signs at immigrations, as I guess the majority of visitors into Thai and the Phils actually have to pass through here, saying "don't sponsor prostitutes" (I don't speak of normal compensation pre session).
I read in other forums as well and I feel so sorry for all the misleaded people out there thinking they found a special girl (in a bar, on the street, in a gogo, in a datingsite etc etc). Let her be special only when you are with her (atleast that is how I do it)...[/QUOTE]I just returned from Angeles and a DIA girl showed me her messages. Exactly the same, she even bought me dinner and went and brought it back to the hotel. When I told her if she gave me money I would be her boyfriend, she said," you not Pinoy"
In here mind that is how the world works, foreigners give her money and she gives to her pinoy boyfriend.
Overnight she left her Skype on, and in 6 hrs there were 184 messages! Holy Batman. I told her it was no problem but every time she answered a call I would start pounding it and she still never turned it off! If those guys only knew why she said her cam was broken! And why she put the pillow over the ipad sometimes.
Enjoy, I did
[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres; 1451307]Was bored so I was reading back through old posts on several different threads and noticed many posters who were a wealth of information who no longer are posting. Anyone know why? Did they get locked up? Married? Or what is the deal. Here is a few names I came up with.
MiamiHeatLuver. Shared a lot of information and has over a thousand posts all on the Colombia and Dominican boards.
Bandy. Has 400 posts and shared pics and information.
Cubanut. Was the king of taking pics of the girls at the Mansion.
Hillbilly. Was the king of information on the Cartagena threads.
Hilltopper. Also shared much information on the Cartagena thread.
Reefski. Shared excellent pics.
Lucky Eddie. Provided great information on Medellin.
John Gault. Also provided great information on Medellin especially on the Mayorista area.
Frank Casio. Also provided much information on Mayorista area and claimed he was the king the this area.[/QUOTE]Most guys get fed up arguing with people or being flamed when they are only reporting their experiences. The Colombia forum has been like walking through a field of IED's forever. It accomplishes nothing and makes people look for other venues to share their information.
That fact that you acknowledge these guys for their reporting is promising. Hopefully it will inspire you to do the same and leave the arguing to the other guys.
[QUOTE=Dirtdog; 1447150]I just returned from Angeles and a DIA girl showed me her messages. Exactly the same, she even bought me dinner and went and brought it back to the hotel. When I told her if she gave me money I would be her boyfriend, she said," you not Pinoy"
In here mind that is how the world works, foreigners give her money and she gives to her pinoy boyfriend.[/QUOTE]And that is the way it should work. Dumb foreigners going crazy over pussy and giving these girls all this money. Then they would have the nerve, not to be angry with the girl for giving away the money, but to be angry with the guy for accepting it. You talk about having the game messed up.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1451374]Most guys get fed up arguing with people or being flamed when they are only reporting their experiences. The Colombia forum has been like walking through a field of IED's forever. It accomplishes nothing and makes people look for other venues to share their information.
That fact that you acknowledge these guys for their reporting is promising. Hopefully it will inspire you to do the same and leave the arguing to the other guys.[/QUOTE]Exactamente!
Has anyone ever brought a vaporizer into Medellin? I was considering bringing a DaVinci Ascent on my next trip. It would be brand new, unused and still in the original packaging so there would not be any residues. This vaporizer can be bought legally in the US in most States. It can be used to vaporize aromatic / herbal oils as well as nicotine oil. I am not sure of the legalities of vaporizers in the Medellin. I have been to public head shops that sold bongs, water pipes, grinders, rolling paper, etc so I would think a vaporizer would be ok as well. Not sure however and I have no idea where to look for an answer. I would not like to be surprised at the airport in Medellin.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Vmonger; 1453492]Has anyone ever brought a vaporizer into Medellin? I was considering bringing a DaVinci Ascent on my next trip. It would be brand new, unused and still in the original packaging so there would not be any residues. This vaporizer can be bought legally in the US in most States. It can be used to vaporize aromatic / herbal oils as well as nicotine oil. I am not sure of the legalities of vaporizers in the Medellin. I have been to public head shops that sold bongs, water pipes, grinders, rolling paper, etc so I would think a vaporizer would be ok as well. Not sure however and I have no idea where to look for an answer. I would not like to be surprised at the airport in Medellin.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You should be fine. I met a guy at The Mansion about 2 1/2 years ago that brought a small vaporizer and left it with a girl. He had done this a few times he said. I have a friend who took a large vaporizer from the US to Costa Rica without incident also. Airport security in Colombia is looking for money coming in and drugs going out and this is just some tobacco related paraphernalia. GL
[QUOTE=Vmonger; 1453492]Has anyone ever brought a vaporizer into Medellin? I was considering bringing a DaVinci Ascent on my next trip. It would be brand new, unused and still in the original packaging so there would not be any residues. This vaporizer can be bought legally in the US in most States. It can be used to vaporize aromatic / herbal oils as well as nicotine oil. I am not sure of the legalities of vaporizers in the Medellin. I have been to public head shops that sold bongs, water pipes, grinders, rolling paper, etc so I would think a vaporizer would be ok as well. Not sure however and I have no idea where to look for an answer. I would not like to be surprised at the airport in Medellin.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I would say if you bring it in, plan on not bringing it out. You don't want to get caught up with any agents on either side of the pond finding resedue on your vaporizor. Even if they do not find a "stash" in your bag, I could imagine that just from the residue it would turn out to be a very long interview with you.
[QUOTE=Vmonger; 1453492]Has anyone ever brought a vaporizer into Medellin? I was considering bringing a DaVinci Ascent on my next trip. It would be brand new, unused and still in the original packaging so there would not be any residues. This vaporizer can be bought legally in the US in most States. It can be used to vaporize aromatic / herbal oils as well as nicotine oil. I am not sure of the legalities of vaporizers in the Medellin. I have been to public head shops that sold bongs, water pipes, grinders, rolling paper, etc so I would think a vaporizer would be ok as well. Not sure however and I have no idea where to look for an answer. I would not like to be surprised at the airport in Medellin.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]As long as you are ready to describe what it is (and does) in spanish to a customs officer when they check your bags I see no problem with it. I recently tried to pass off an onyx pipe as a coffee table chachka at the San Ysidro / Mexico border crossing and it didn't go over too well. Some people just don't appreciate good art!
Colombia should be easier though. I would assume they have a few less kilos passing through there compared to the SY crossing. After all SY is the busiest border crossing in the world.
Colombian authorities trained to notice drug paraphernalia NAH.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1454104]I would say if you bring it in, plan on not bringing it out. You don't want to get caught up with any agents on either side of the pond finding resedue on your vaporizor. Even if they do not find a "stash" in your bag, I could imagine that just from the residue it would turn out to be a very long interview with you.[/QUOTE]It's a gift for a friend of mine down there. She coughs a lot whenever she smokes so I figure it would make for a nice gift (to share of course). No intention of bringing it back. Strangely, I never smoke and rarely drink in the USA not the same unless you are hanging out with a hot Paisas. I guess I will bring it through and get ready to do some fast talking. Hopefully I won't end up on an episode of "Locked Up Abroad". Although Colombia does have bi-weekly conjugal visits so it's not all bad.
Has anyone here stayed beyond the 180 day per calendar year limit and had to apply for a visa? If so, any tips for a smooth and discrete process?
Peace
Why take the risk? Stimulate your sense of adventure. I would bet 100 bucks you can buy any kind of smoking apparatus there while having a fun time in the process. I love asking new "friends" for help finding something.
[QUOTE=Vmonger;1454279]It's a gift for a friend of mine down there. She coughs a lot whenever she smokes so I figure it would make for a nice gift (to share of course). No intention of bringing it back. Strangely, I never smoke and rarely drink in the USA not the same unless you are hanging out with a hot Paisas. I guess I will bring it through and get ready to do some fast talking. Hopefully I won't end up on an episode of "Locked Up Abroad". Although Colombia does have bi-weekly conjugal visits so it's not all bad.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vmonger;1454279]I guess I will bring it through and get ready to do some fast talking. Hopefully I won't end up on an episode of "Locked Up Abroad". Although Colombia does have bi-weekly conjugal visits so it's not all bad.[/QUOTE]Again, I'm positive you will not have any problems taking it to Colombia. Most people don't even know what a vaporizer is except the stoner purists among us ;)
If they happen to ask (I'm sure they won't) then you just tell them it is for tobacco. Since you said it was a grift for your friend then you absolutely don't have to worry about anyone asking you about it or someone finding residue on the way back since you are leaving the vaporizer in Colombia.
To cut down on any potential problems, I would not take a vaporizer that you've used before.
Any of you guys allowed to smoke in your hotel room or rental apartment?
I remember there being a smoking ban in clubs and restaurants on one of my trips but my hotel allowed me to smoke in my room. Now I received an email saying no smoking at all.
I can't imagine being in "cough" *Colombia and not being able to smoke.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1458149]Any of you guys allowed to smoke in your hotel room or rental apartment?
I remember there being a smoking ban in clubs and restaurants on one of my trips but my hotel allowed me to smoke in my room. Now I received an email saying no smoking at all.
I can't imagine being in "cough" *Colombia and not being able to smoke.[/QUOTE]I would think you can smoke in the lobby and in the balcony of your room if you have one. Most apartment listings say that.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1458149]Any of you guys allowed to smoke in your hotel room or rental apartment?
I remember there being a smoking ban in clubs and restaurants on one of my trips but my hotel allowed me to smoke in my room. Now I received an email saying no smoking at all.
I can't imagine being in "cough" *Colombia and not being able to smoke.[/QUOTE]It's probably for the best. Bbrocs rents out luxury apartments and I would hate to come in as the next guest with couch and bed sheets (or the entire place for that matter) smelling like an ashtray. Most apartments have balconies or an outside area to smoke. I don't have any info on Hotel room smoking policies. Probably you can at a Love Motel or something (just like you can smoke at a most Motels in the US).
[QUOTE=Almotu;1458208]I would think you can smoke in the lobby and in the balcony of your room if you have one. Most apartment listings say that.[/QUOTE]Maybe on the balcony but unfortunately none of the hotels in my price range (in centro) have them. My hotel offered to let me smoke on the roof but that won't do me much good.
The apartments on airbnb. Com look interesting but I've read bad reviews about airbnb. Com.
The last time I was there they had already banned it in clubs but I was allowed to smoke in my room.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1458211]Maybe on the balcony but unfortunately none of the hotels in my price range (in centro) have them. My hotel offered to let me smoke on the roof but that won't do me much good.
The apartments on airbnb. Com look interesting but I've read bad reviews about airbnb. Com.
The last time I was there they had already banned it in clubs but I was allowed to smoke in my room.[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the Nutibara Hotel in El Centro Medellin a number of times. They never made an issue with me about smoking, even though there's a 'No Smoking' sign on the door. In fact one time they had an ashtray in the room when I checked in.
I don't know if the ban applies to Cali, but I've smoked in every hotel I've stayed at there: Cali Plaza, Windsor, Nevada, Versailles etc.
[QUOTE=BayBoy; 1458551]I've stayed at the Nutibara Hotel in El Centro Medellin a number of times. They never made an issue with me about smoking, even though there's a 'No Smoking' sign on the door. In fact one time they had an ashtray in the room when I checked in.
I don't know if the ban applies to Cali, but I've smoked in every hotel I've stayed at there: Cali Plaza, Windsor, Nevada, Versailles etc.[/QUOTE]The ban applies to the entire country according to the code violation they sent me. If you google it the same information will come up. Smoking in public enclosed places is ILLEGAL. I'm sure some hotels will let you do it discreetly but who what and where are they located? Are they in my budget and are they on a quiet street and are they affordable? Too many annoying details for someone that wants to party. This is something I need to research now before ever buying another airline ticket.
They just sent me another email this morning apologizing saying it isn't them it's the Govt. Isn't it always!
It's really annoying.
PS. Last time I stayed at the Nutibara they made me smoke on the balcony at the end of the hallway. The ashtray in my room was worthless.
Yes, I have stayed over 180 days with a student visa (now called TP-3 visa). All you need to do is register for Spanish classes at a university. I paid for 6 months of classes up front and received a year visa. If you look at the cancilleria website you can get a list of all the required documents (in Spanish). If applying in Bogota make sure to show up at lease an hour before they open unless you want to be there a long time. And a university is a great place to meet tons of chicas.
[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1457494]Has anyone here stayed beyond the 180 day per calendar year limit and had to apply for a visa? If so, any tips for a smooth and discrete process?
Peace[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1458560]The ban applies to the entire country according to the code violation they sent me. If you google it the same information will come up. Smoking in public enclosed places is ILLEGAL. I'm sure some hotels will let you do it discreetly but who what and where are they located? Are they in my budget and are they on a quiet street and are they affordable? Too many annoying details for someone that wants to party. This is something I need to research now before ever buying another airline ticket.
They just sent me another email this morning apologizing saying it isn't them it's the Govt. Isn't it always!
It's really annoying.
PS. Last time I stayed at the Nutibara they made me smoke on the balcony at the end of the hallway. The ashtray in my room was worthless.[/QUOTE]I didn't know the smoking ban in the hotels was for the whole country of Colombia. Because at the Nutibara I never said anything to management and they never said to me. I just did my smoking thing. In Cali, the Plaza, Versailles and Windsor hotels never said anything to me about the ban. I didn't think it applied to Cali.
The Hotel Nevada kind of frowned when I mentioned if I could smoke, but didn't stop me. The walls are closing in on us smokers I know.
[QUOTE=BayBoy; 1458670]I didn't know the smoking ban in the hotels was for the whole country of Colombia. Because at the Nutibara I never said anything to management and they never said to me. I just did my smoking thing. In Cali, the Plaza, Versailles and Windsor hotels never said anything to me about the ban. I didn't think it applied to Cali.
The Hotel Nevada kind of frowned when I mentioned if I could smoke, but didn't stop me. The walls are closing in on us smokers I know.[/QUOTE]Maybe if I didn't mention it they wouldn't have known. However I don't try to hide pink elephants when booking a room for a month. Can I bring a guest back ? Can I smoke etc. ? It does no good IMO to hide anything. If they agree then it's cool if not move on.
With CRIPA valued at roughly $2 per gram. YOU B BUGGIN if you think a smoke free room would be of value to most young americans.
They probably started enforcing the ban more now or it goes in cycles just like it does in some other countries. One day yes the next no. But who wants to book for a month under those conditions? Not me. I travel to escape these kinds of rules.
I haven't thrown in the towel yet. I have until Sept 3 to figure it out or it's back to Tijuana for me.
Aug 14, 2013
Posted by Oliver Griffin
Senator Armando Benedetti of the coalition U Party introduced a bill on Tuesday to try and stop 'millionaires' rides, ' a criminal phenomenon in which a victim is drugged and made to empty bank accounts or ransack his home.
According to newspaper El Pais, Mr Benedetti said he has introduced the bill 'to increase the safety and quality of the overall taxi service. '
He went on to say that 'in the last two years, more than 200 people have been victims of the 'millionaire's ride' and so far this year there have been 35 reports of this crime in Bogota, according to police figures. '
The 'millionaire's ride' is a relatively and unfortunately regular occurrence, particularly in Bogota. As well as being recognized by Senator Benedetti as a major problem with taxis it is also discussed at length by several travel guides, such as Bradt, Lonely Planet and Wikitravel.
Bradt advises travellers 'don't get into a taxi if there is anyone else in the car and don't be tempted to hail a taxi off the street. '
Wikitravel says that concerning taxi rides 'the most dangerous is the very common 'Paseo Millonario' (Millionaire Ride) , in which the cab driver picks up his accomplices along the way and together they take your valuables, including money from your cards, forcing you to withdraw cash from ATMs until your withdrawal limit is reached. To add insult to injury, they can keep you past midnight and withdraw your daily limit a second time. '
Some of the measures suggested by the Senator are clearly a direct response to the specific patterns of these attacks. As has been noted when the attackers keep the victim to withdraw money after midnight, Mr Benedetti has suggested 'restricting the withdrawal from money' from ATMs between 10pm and 6am.
It is thought that one of the triggers for the proposed bill is the murder of Terry Watson, an American DEA agent who was killed after taking a taxi from the street in Bogota when leaving a pub.
MORE: Colombia Police Offer $26K Reward For Information On DEA Agent's Killers.
He has also called for taxi's to be fitted with mandatory GPS and panic buttons, with drivers and companies who are not complient being hit with heavy penalties. The new measures would see new drivers checked for criminal records in order to prevent previous offenders from having the chance to commit further offences.
MORE: Bogota taxi drivers to serve as Colombian capital's 'guardian angels'
It has also been suggested that a database, accessible by any citizen, would be set up with a profile of each taxi driver. The information supplied would include 'the name and number of the driver, photo, identification number, date of training, a company to which it belongs, the license number and vehicle driven company. ' Companies that fail to collect the information would be subject to heavy fines.
I started travelling to Latin America 2003, spent much of my time in Buenos Aires, which had it's mythical, but untrue, word of being "Paris of Latin America".
Then I was in Rio. I had a wonderful time. It was "winter" in April. I was 35 why-o medium looks, one of very few tourist on this low season, living at cheap rates in a luxury hotels 100-200 meters from Copacabana.
What happend was that a 20 why-o old garota / black girl, an aerobics girl and I hooked up after passing each other on the street 10 times in 2 days. She, and people where so friendly by nature, a huge contrast to Buenos Aires where I hired an apartment for one year and it felt to come to Paradise, what I thought Buenos Aires had it word to be, but was a haven for psycoanalysts and ruff short term business.
I could not believe that she was offended when I wanted to give her my last 300 REAL," I'm leaving Brasil, you need them", She was offended. She was close to a 10 and had stayed with me as a girlfriend for 5 days, and being offended offered some money-which she really neeeded! She had stayed with me slept with me for 5 days in my hotel giving me the best sex I ever had, better than ever all the semi-ugly girls in Buenos Aires, finding a beautiful and hot "porteņa" was. Well not easy, and many with me agree!
Brasilian girls are warm, hot, passionate, in Buenos Aires? Does not Argentina suffer from a permanent social capital collapse in which everyone tries to trick each other, a collective mental malfunction. Argentina then changes currency from time to time to escape huge foreign debts. 90% of foreign investments goes to Brasil. 10% to Argentina, while the country and it's people actually have the capacity to make huge progress, they are stuck with several kind of micro and macro economical traps.
This was 2006, maybe I learned about dating sites 2004, I was to sceptical to send money, but, yes, I felt that latin America had someting to offer that Europe had not! Wonderful climate and people, and girls horney as hell!
2006 I was in Colombia, after leaving Rio. Bogota was way ahead in infrastructure compared to Buenos Aires, just like Rio was!
Since 2009 I have travelled to MDE (and vivisting other places while hiring an apartment) 2-5 months a year depending on economical and social circumstances.
Brasilian girls, just like Colombians look for money, but they are hot, warm but nature. You get GFE, you get friends not asking for money or favours. Now I have learned Spanish very well and got friends for life and a long-term novia in MDE. It is 10 times better than cold climate and social life in Buenos Aires and also Bogota. Rio, MDE and Cartagena are the only 3 metropolitan areas I have visited / lived in where people still are friendly and humane, despite the constant stress they live under. Paisas are aware of this and put effort into keeping it that way, and making social and economical progress at a fast pace, even though many, even Exito supermarkets have to pay to the mafia from San Javier, mostly consitent by x-paramilitaries who can't find work, but don't have Zero respect for human life. Still, murdering rate is down 80% since Pablo Escobar died, and risks ar normal nowaday compared to a city of this size (3,6 millions).
I met my novia in Medellin, daytime, inviting her to take a cup of coffee with me.
Sending money, as those men do is totally a waste of selfrespect, and I have been in that low state of mind that yoiu get while constantly under pressure.
Learn some Portuguese or Spanish on [url]www.livemocha.com[/url] Instead. While arriving at Rio, or why not another nice place up-north the coast where the prices are much lower and the beaches equally white, there you will find your Brasilian DreamGirl!
Internetdating has moved over to Facebook, I have one profile just for horney young Medellin paisas that without hesitation offer thier services for 100-200 COP, making expensive fraudly marriage agencies and also Cupid sites obsolete! And for free!
Of course, you will always met "interesadas" and they will fool you of some 500-1000 USD, max, then you have learned which girls you can get for real and which to aviod (100% of those with plastic asses and lips, so they are quiet easy to spot, they walk around looking like luxury pornostars, then of course you always have to be careful, but that count's for the 1th world also!).
Actually my novia in Medellin is very hot. She is not for free, but very independent and want to make her own money. It is only New Life in El Centro that makes it worth to get some variation, since all she ask for is real tuff, like paying 100USD / month for her university. Internet and Parque Lleras prepagos are so much more expensive, just enjoy their sexy looks, don't pay!
If I can find girlfriend / s in Medellin, with good social beaviour, good looks, well mannered, most guy can do it also. Go to the gym before and during the travelling, Colombians care much about looks, cloths, it's normal for men to visit beauty saloons the get a facial, nails, feets, and it's dirt cheap!
I have made several mistakes during my 10 year period travelling to Latin America. Lesson learned: You don't need to pay Gringo Premium Prices. You will get goodlooking girls anyway. By going there you take a risk and everyone get's robbed, tricked at some point, but if you not are foolish, which is the problem, while falling in love, the risks are not bigger than in the US or Europe, where buying a suburb house and new SUV actually limits, if not destroysfor life, your economical ability to experience Paradise. 1th world salaries are so much higher, and if you avoid tourist areas and know some Spanish or Portuguese, you can live like a King for a 33% on average of the price one pays in New York City. Many of the best things restaurants, taxis, and 7-9 class babes being at prices at 10-20, and especially the girls are fantastical emotionally! The food are made of natural products in the restaurants, it is really tasty.
I have been in that State Of Looser Myself, thinking money itself could give love: The good news is: You don't have to send money, learn a little of the "lingo" behave like a gentleman, and you will have a great time at a low price, thus creating a addiction, making you depressed in periods back in Sexprison. But it's worth it! Work, work, save, save- and go. Again and again!
[QUOTE=Combo; 1446597]Ken Apple's very worthwhile post reminds me of an experience I had many, many years ago in Rio. I had just started going there and met a Garota that I got along with very well. She spoke English (so obviously a veteran pro) and IMO was very hot. We exchanged contacts and before my next visit, I told her I was coming down. She told me I could stay at her apartment, and I figured what the hell. If it doesn't work out, I can always move to a Hotel.
I stayed with this chick for over a week and paid nothing other than buying her food and drinks (and we generally ate very cheap). We fucked and partied like crazy (something I can no longer do!). Towards the end of my stay, we were sitting together on the couch and she was looking through her emails. She pointed out emails from foreign guys sending her money and saying they were in love with her. She was laughing hysterically about it and saying basically,"how could these guys be such losers?" The way she said it almost made me queasy."Losers!" How could she be so mean to guys that were trying to be nice to her?
To this day, that was easily the best learning experience of my mongering career.[/QUOTE]
Just left Medellin after 100 days. Got hit with the minimum fines by both the airline and customs for over 90 days without leaving Colombia. Airline was 70k ($37) and customs was 295k ($160). Total hit was about $200. I can't say what the fine would have been at 120, 140 days, etc but can only comment on my recent experience.
For all of you pot smokers out there be careful with the clothes that you wear to the airport. I am usually careful about this. The night before leaving I smoked a joint and left my pants on the counter nearby for the next day. All of the passengers in Miami were individually interviewed exiting the plane, which I have never seen before, creating a line backing up into the airplane tunnel. When I got to the checkpoint the dog could obviously smell the drug odor in my pants which was not noticeable by myself or the agent. After a good patdown and getting my checked bag I was escorted with about 10 other people into a separate area for inspection. The officer told me that the dog smelled drug odor in my pants. He asked me what my story was and what he would find in my bags. I could sense that these agents were not in the mood for lies or for bothering us over petty things. I told him that I smoked a joint the night before, with my pants nearby, and that he would only find rolling papers in my bag. He told me that he appreciated me being honest with him and after a brief search on my way I went.
[quote=Vegas Jeff; 1461417]Just left Medellin after 100 days. Got hit with the minimum fines by both the airline and customs for over 90 days without leaving Colombia. Airline was 70k ($37) and customs was 295k ($160). Total hit was about $200. I can't say what the fine would have been at 120, 140 days, etc but can only comment on my recent experience.[/quote]Thanks for informing us the fines at Medellin airport for overstaying the 90 day tourist visa stamp. My last entry they just stamped my passport without writing 60 or 90 on my passport. To extend your tourist visa for another 90 days, go to the migration office (Old international DAS office in Belen). Look it up online, the fee changes every year, is about 85k+, and copies of tickets, passport, and others are required, and takes about half a day. A friend of my said the tourist visa over-stay fee at the border between Colombia and Ecuador was listed at 590k, but since he didn't have any money, they figured something out.
The airline tax you mention is actually the airport exit tax that everyone pays, except visitors that have been in Colombia less than 60 days. I once had 70K refunded to me at the airport because tickets bought in Colombia has this tax included.
[QUOTE=Headache; 1462629]Thanks for informing us the fines at Medellin airport for overstaying the 90 day tourist visa stamp. My last entry they just stamped my passport without writing 60 or 90 on my passport. To extend your tourist visa for another 90 days, go to the migration office (Old international DAS office in Belen). Look it up online, the fee changes every year, is about 85k+, and copies of tickets, passport, and others are required, and takes about half a day. A friend of my said the tourist visa over-stay fee at the border between Colombia and Ecuador was listed at 590k, but since he didn't have any money, they figured something out.
The airline tax you mention is actually the airport exit tax that everyone pays, except visitors that have been in Colombia less than 60 days. I once had 70K refunded to me at the airport because tickets bought in Colombia has this tax included.[/QUOTE]Adding to this, I would just like to ask, if you are close to reaching your 60 or 90 day point, can you leave the country for a week or two and come back in, if you do that will it allow you to stay a further 60 or 90 days? I know this is done by expats a lot in Thailand, where by they leave the country for a day or two then when they come back it is reset.
In Bogota, I used New York Money in the Atlantis Mall to change USD to COP. I don't know a better place (yet) so I reasoned that they might not give me the best rate, but should be professional.
Usually when I've changed money in other countries, a mechanical counting machine is used to count the bills. Such machines, as I understand it, also detect counterfeit notes.
At New York Money the one person working there counted by hand. He counted several times before passing it through the window to me. Then I counted. I knew how many 50mil notes there should be. And counted again, then counted a third time. I was one 50mil note short.
I told him in Spanish that it was short and he allowed me to pass all the notes back through the window to him. He recounted, added one 50mil note to the stack, and returned to me. I asked why he didn't use a machine to count the notes. He pointed to a machine off to the side, not in use. I didn't understand the Spanish words he used to explain why it was not in use. Actually, I was pretty sure it was so he could shortchange foreigners. You can draw your own conclusion.
I really like Colombia. And I have had no problems here other than this one. I didn't lose any money. However, this experience reminded me to always protect my interests in all ways. Because as soon as you let your guard down, bad things can happen.
[QUOTE=Archimedes; 1467140]In Bogota, I used New York Money in the Atlantis Mall to change USD to COP. I don't know a better place (yet) so I reasoned that they might not give me the best rate, but should be professional.
Usually when I've changed money in other countries, a mechanical counting machine is used to count the bills. Such machines, as I understand it, also detect counterfeit notes.
At New York Money the one person working there counted by hand. He counted several times before passing it through the window to me. Then I counted. I knew how many 50mil notes there should be. And counted again, then counted a third time. I was one 50mil note short.
I told him in Spanish that it was short and he allowed me to pass all the notes back through the window to him. He recounted, added one 50mil note to the stack, and returned to me. I asked why he didn't use a machine to count the notes. He pointed to a machine off to the side, not in use. I didn't understand the Spanish words he used to explain why it was not in use. Actually, I was pretty sure it was so he could shortchange foreigners. You can draw your own conclusion.
I really like Colombia. And I have had no problems here other than this one. I didn't lose any money. However, this experience reminded me to always protect my interests in all ways. Because as soon as you let your guard down, bad things can happen.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with being careful but there is something wrong with being paranoid and having a negative attitude. How's your Spanish? Could the word the cashier used have been broken? Maybe malfunctioning? There could be 100 reasons as to why he wasn't using the machine and it easily could have been a mistake in counting out the bills. This is all in your head. Been watching too much Law & Order or CSI. Getting a criminals everywhere complex. Atlantis Mall! Sheesh!
One time I went to a local bank in a country in So America, ATM machines give $ 200 only so I went to a live teller and asked for $600, after she put my card through this card reader she tells me to punch in my code, I did, after few seconds she tells me the bank in the USA was not responding. I called B of A for my balance and I was short $600! I told the bank my story, they replaced the money right away! Hell, ATM's used give $ 500 for $ 5, now they charge $5 for $200!
I hear what you are saying Samu. But ATMs can be a hobbyist's best friend, can you imagine using all cash or traveller's checks on a trip for P4P? I don't think anyone does THAT anymore.
You just have to be careful with your usage, ATMs are handy for splurge of the moment situations.
[QUOTE=Samu Ray;1467992]One time I went to a local bank in a country in So America, ATM machines give $ 200 only so I went to a live teller and asked for $600, after she put my card through this card reader she tells me to punch in my code, I did, after few seconds she tells me the bank in the USA was not responding. I called B of A for my balance and I was short $600! I told the bank my story, they replaced the money right away! Hell, ATM's used give $ 500 for $ 5, now they charge $5 for $200![/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean. It's always been a flat fee whether you wanted to take $20 or $200. Your are just limited by the withdrawal limits of the ATM you go to. Which is a lot lower than the limit of your bank.
I get equivalent of USD 300 per withdrawal from an ATM in Colombia. The restriction can be your own account's overseas withdrawl limit, as well as the ATM's limit.
[QUOTE=Samu Ray;1467992]One time I went to a local bank in a country in So America, ATM machines give $ 200 only so I went to a live teller and asked for $600, after she put my card through this card reader she tells me to punch in my code, I did, after few seconds she tells me the bank in the USA was not responding. I called B of A for my balance and I was short $600! I told the bank my story, they replaced the money right away! Hell, ATM's used give $ 500 for $ 5, now they charge $5 for $200![/QUOTE]
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Thanks then,
Nibu
Hey guys, I'm planning on returning to CTG in November, my usual airlines has changed its flights. So I'm looking at Avianca. I would have to go thru Bogota, it would be DC to Bogota, then transfer to a domestic flight to CTG. The flight gets in around 9pm, how difficult / time consuming is the customs process there, I'm concerned about making the connecting flight. Avianca seems pretty strict about there carry-on policy (which is usually all I do) , so I'm assuming I need to get my checked bag In Bogota go thru customs, then re check my bag. Is it reasonable to think I can do that in 1 1/2 hrs. There is also another flight that leaves 45min later. Which may be a safer bet, or should I think of another itinerary completely.
Thanks for your help,
Chris
[QUOTE=Travel Doc10; 1469984]Hey guys, I'm planning on returning to CTG in November, my usual airlines has changed its flights. So I'm looking at Avianca. I would have to go thru Bogota, it would be DC to Bogota, then transfer to a domestic flight to CTG. The flight gets in around 9pm, how difficult / time consuming is the customs process there, I'm concerned about making the connecting flight. Avianca seems pretty strict about there carry-on policy (which is usually all I do) , so I'm assuming I need to get my checked bag In Bogota go thru customs, then re check my bag. Is it reasonable to think I can do that in 1 1/2 hrs. There is also another flight that leaves 45min later. Which may be a safer bet, or should I think of another itinerary completely.
Thanks for your help,
Chris[/QUOTE]The new international terminal in Bogota is fantastic. You should have no problems making your flight to Cartagena within the 1 1/2 hour time frame. I am usually out the door with my bags within a half an hour when flying directly to Bogota from the States.
More than enough time. In fact if you miss the first one they'll automatically put you on the next.
[QUOTE=Travel Doc10; 1469984]Hey guys, I'm planning on returning to CTG in November, my usual airlines has changed its flights. So I'm looking at Avianca. I would have to go thru Bogota, it would be DC to Bogota, then transfer to a domestic flight to CTG. The flight gets in around 9pm, how difficult / time consuming is the customs process there, I'm concerned about making the connecting flight. Avianca seems pretty strict about there carry-on policy (which is usually all I do) , so I'm assuming I need to get my checked bag In Bogota go thru customs, then re check my bag. Is it reasonable to think I can do that in 1 1/2 hrs. There is also another flight that leaves 45min later. Which may be a safer bet, or should I think of another itinerary completely.
Thanks for your help,
Chris[/QUOTE]
Here is what the Colombian governments official immigration and customs website says about the NEW Hostelero program, and its requirements. (This is a Spanish to English translation the site provides) Hosting Services: In hotels, pensions, hostels, residences, hostels and other establishments that provide the hosting service and camps in any form, are authorized to request identification presentation to foreigners for purposes of registration or service delivery and keep a daily log of foreigners with continuous numbering of entry and exit of the users of these services, which containing the following information: full names, nationality and identity, date of birth, gender, profession, place of origin, destination and arrival and departure. These establishments will report daily to the Special Administrative Unit Migration Colombia, the news about the entry and exit of foreign definitive means established for that purpose, subject to the revision that may be made at any time the immigration authorities. The owners or managers of real estate, estates, apartments, houses or properties for the hotel, who leased or serving lodging and camping in any form to foreigners, must inform the Special Administrative Unit Migration Colombia in writing or in the form provided for this. Finally, within five (5) business days of having made the formal surrender of the property, for which you must enter the same information provided in the first paragraph of this Article. The immigration authorities are empowered to exercise control of these facilities at any time. Special Administrative Unit Migration Colombia regulate the information required in the preceding paragraph by administrative act. The owners, managers, charterers, forks and bailees of hotels, pensions, hostels, residences, apartment, farms, houses apartments and other service establishments providing lodging and camping in any form, provide information to the Special Administrative Unit Migration Colombia, on registration of Colombian citizens, when so required.-migracioncolombia.gov.co - See more at: http://shark-tank.net/2013/09/10/colombia-implements-hotel-guest-immigration-tracking-program/#sthash.i56vxEge.dpuf
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[QUOTE=Travel Doc10;1469984]Hey guys, I'm planning on returning to CTG in November, my usual airlines has changed its flights. So I'm looking at Avianca. I would have to go thru Bogota, it would be DC to Bogota, then transfer to a domestic flight to CTG. The flight gets in around 9pm, how difficult / time consuming is the customs process there, I'm concerned about making the connecting flight. Avianca seems pretty strict about there carry-on policy (which is usually all I do) , so I'm assuming I need to get my checked bag In Bogota go thru customs, then re check my bag. Is it reasonable to think I can do that in 1 1/2 hrs. There is also another flight that leaves 45min later. Which may be a safer bet, or should I think of another itinerary completely.[/QUOTE]I think the flight that leaves 45 minutes later will be your best bet. By the time you get through immigration and get your bag and get outside to take the bus you might have 45 minutes left. You will have to wait for the free bus, then the domestic terminal is like the 4th stop on the bus route. Or you could always pay for a taxi to save you time. They will probably want 10K to take you to the Puente Aereo. There you would check in for your domestic flight and recheck your bag. Then go upstairs through security and to your gate.
I went through Bogota airport to by both Avianca and United / Copa Colombia to Medellin earlier this year, both times my checked luggage went directly to Medellin without customs at Bogota airport. With Avianca, you need to change terminal which is less than 5 minutes by taxi.
[QUOTE=Travel Doc10; 1469984]Hey guys, I'm planning on returning to CTG in November, my usual airlines has changed its flights. So I'm looking at Avianca. I would have to go thru Bogota, it would be DC to Bogota, then transfer to a domestic flight to CTG. The flight gets in around 9pm, how difficult / time consuming is the customs process there, I'm concerned about making the connecting flight. Avianca seems pretty strict about there carry-on policy (which is usually all I do) , so I'm assuming I need to get my checked bag In Bogota go thru customs, then re check my bag. Is it reasonable to think I can do that in 1 1/2 hrs. There is also another flight that leaves 45min later. Which may be a safer bet, or should I think of another itinerary completely.
Thanks for your help,
Chris[/QUOTE]
Hey Dudes, I hope someone can give me the answer to this question. Wherever I go to have my fun I always end up liking the ladies and want to see them do well. I usually tell them to put a little money in the bank (while they can make it) and eventually buy a house or two, thus insuring a happy ending for themselves and their kids / family.
My question is what does that exactly entail in a country like Colombia. Do the ladies need to report their earnings and pay taxes or can they just put their money in the bank and someday but their own casa? What is required of these hookers (besides the actual saving of monies) to purchase their own house in Colombia? Anyone know?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1470680]Read more at: http://shark-tank.net/2013/09/10/colombia-implements-hotel-guest-immigration-tracking-program/ | The Shark Tank[/QUOTE]This is something that a lot of countries do to track visitors to their countries. Usually no one even looks at the reports as they are just filed away. Nothing to worry about. Keep mongering.
One can check through the luggage only with their direct affiliate airlines United (US) and Iberia (Europe) and of course with Avianca on inbound and outbound flights.
At least this was the situation 2 years ago. Otherwise one need to pick up the luggage in Bogota and check it in again for the domestic conncection flight or the international flight when you leave the country.
[QUOTE=Headache;1470911]I went through Bogota airport to by both Avianca and United / Copa Colombia to Medellin earlier this year, both times my checked luggage went directly to Medellin without customs at Bogota airport. With Avianca, you need to change terminal which is less than 5 minutes by taxi.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1470680]Here is what the Colombian governments official immigration and customs website says about the NEW Hostelero program, and its requirements. (This is a Spanish to English translation the site provides) Hosting Services: In hotels, pensions, hostels, residences, hostels and other establishments that provide the hosting service and camps in any form, are authorized to request identification presentation to foreigners for purposes of registration or service delivery and keep a daily log of foreigners with continuous numbering of entry and exit of the users of these services, which containing the following information: full names, nationality and identity, date of birth, gender, profession, place of origin, destination and arrival and departure.[/QUOTE]Hotel El Virrey in Bogota has always done this. I stopped staying there a few years ago when it got to be out of my price range though.
[QUOTE=TuDueno; 1475099]One can check through the luggage only with their direct affiliate airlines United (US) and Iberia (Europe) and of course with Avianca on inbound and outbound flights.
At least this was the situation 2 years ago. Otherwise one need to pick up the luggage in Bogota and check it in again for the domestic conncection flight or the international flight when you leave the country.[/QUOTE]You can not check luggage through on an inbound international flight. It has to be claimed by you and brought through customs at your point of entry then rechecked.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1475175]You can not check luggage through on an inbound international flight. It has to be claimed by you and brought through customs at your point of entry then rechecked.[/QUOTE]On Avianca for an International flight connecting in Bogota with a domestic connection I recently haven't had to claim my bag for customs at point of entry in Bogota and then recheck. I did this earlier this year traveling to Medellin from both Sao Paulo and Lima with a connection in Bogota. My bag showed up in Medellin with no need to claim / recheck in Bogota.
Sometimes it seems when a trip starts out bad it stays bad.
On my flight on Spirit to FLL as we were landing it was announced that we were getting in at terminal 3. Now Spirit works out of 4 so right away I knew I would have to go thru security again when leaving the terminal. They then announced that we would have to do just that. Go to terminal 4. Ok I had a little over an hour to make the flight to Colombia. It is hot outside, and I'm moving fast to get to security. Come to find out the Colombia flight was really at the terminal I just left. Much loud cussing by me as I head out into the heat again to go back to 3.
After much reading the board I felt LDV was not an option for me as I hated the idea of having to spend 100K on drinks just to have the honor of taking a girl out of there. Anyway I do love the atmosphere there so I went at about midnight just to look at the eye candy. Quite a few sharp women there, and not many hombres. I sit at the bar, and have a few beers. A chica comes over, and smiles at me. Her name is Lorena, and she looks exactly like Marisa Tomei. I brake down, and buy her a drink. She is quite a girl, and full of life. We end up dancing up a storm. After about 3 hours I have spent the 100K so now I find out her price. She asks 250k for TLN. I really liked her so I countered with 200K. Off we go to my place. I got a big scare when in the room she asks me for 2 condoms. Oh no I thought not the dreaded 2 condom wearing. No she laughs, for two times. Now I felt real good. A BBBJ was started but too many drinks had taken there toll. She told me sexo in the morning would be good. Now I figure fat chance on that, but when we woke up she was a girl of her word.
So now on to Santa Marta, and back to bad trip part. Seems the police have closed all the strip clubs, and casas. Real bad news as I love Bananas in Santa Marta.
Only thing left would be the SW on the beach in Rodelo. Get this none better than a 6, and every last one of them asking 150K WTF!
As they were below par I did not even try to get a lower price.
This brings me to make an observation that may not be too popular with some here, but here goes. Speaking of MDE I feel with this opening of the LL and all the Mansion girls there with their 150K price tag it is really going to make MDE not the place I knew and loved. Even now the Mayo girls (some) are asking 50K instead of the usual 30K. So these business men who are promoting all this 150K stuff are really going to bite us in the butt. Yeah I know some of you guys feel it is still a bargain compared to sex prison, but fuck that.
Go ahead boys fire away.
[QUOTE=South Am69;1475264]On Avianca for an International flight connecting in Bogota with a domestic connection I recently haven't had to claim my bag for customs at point of entry in Bogota and then recheck. I did this earlier this year traveling to Medellin from both Sao Paulo and Lima with a connection in Bogota. My bag showed up in Medellin with no need to claim / recheck in Bogota.[/QUOTE]No way. I have flown Avianca to Bogota with a domestic connection close to 50 times and every single time had to collect my bag and recheck it. Otherwise your bags would not have to clear customs, the smugglers would have a field day with a system like that, hahaha.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1475172]Hotel El Virrey in Bogota has always done this. I stopped staying there a few years ago when it got to be out of my price range though.[/QUOTE]Hi I will be visiting Bogota and was wondering if this requirement is universal? Do you have any hotel suggestions in the 150k. 250k price range. I seems Zona Rosa is central and safe. Thoughts? Suggestions? Thanks
I feel your pain. This is the natural course of events when there is lots of information out there on our "hobby." It's why some of the veterans keep quiet when they find a promising new locale.
[QUOTE=Kelso1; 1478346]Sometimes it seems when a trip starts out bad it stays bad.
On my flight on Spirit to FLL as we were landing it was announced that we were getting in at terminal 3. Now Spirit works out of 4 so right away I knew I would have to go thru security again when leaving the terminal. They then announced that we would have to do just that. Go to terminal 4. Ok I had a little over an hour to make the flight to Colombia. It is hot outside, and I'm moving fast to get to security. Come to find out the Colombia flight was really at the terminal I just left. Much loud cussing by me as I head out into the heat again to go back to 3.
After much reading the board I felt LDV was not an option for me as I hated the idea of having to spend 100K on drinks just to have the honor of taking a girl out of there. Anyway I do love the atmosphere there so I went at about midnight just to look at the eye candy. Quite a few sharp women there, and not many hombres. I sit at the bar, and have a few beers. A chica comes over, and smiles at me. Her name is Lorena, and she looks exactly like Marisa Tomei. I brake down, and buy her a drink. She is quite a girl, and full of life. We end up dancing up a storm. After about 3 hours I have spent the 100K so now I find out her price. She asks 250k for TLN. I really liked her so I countered with 200K. Off we go to my place. I got a big scare when in the room she asks me for 2 condoms. Oh no I thought not the dreaded 2 condom wearing. No she laughs, for two times. Now I felt real good. A BBBJ was started but too many drinks had taken there toll. She told me sexo in the morning would be good. Now I figure fat chance on that, but when we woke up she was a girl of her word.
So now on to Santa Marta, and back to bad trip part. Seems the police have closed all the strip clubs, and casas. Real bad news as I love Bananas in Santa Marta.
Only thing left would be the SW on the beach in Rodelo. Get this none better than a 6, and every last one of them asking 150K WTF!
As they were below par I did not even try to get a lower price.
This brings me to make an observation that may not be too popular with some here, but here goes. Speaking of MDE I feel with this opening of the LL and all the Mansion girls there with their 150K price tag it is really going to make MDE not the place I knew and loved. Even now the Mayo girls (some) are asking 50K instead of the usual 30K. So these business men who are promoting all this 150K stuff are really going to bite us in the butt. Yeah I know some of you guys feel it is still a bargain compared to sex prison, but fuck that.
Go ahead boys fire away.[/QUOTE]
Come down and see me in Tijuana buddy. How are you enjoying the non smoking rooms!
Times are tough for the budget guys. I'm putting my tongue on whatever stink I can get in my budget range. I just added sand paper to my monger's s douchebag. Scrub a dub dub.
80% of the population in Medellíand is young, with leaves us mongers with odds very favourable, it just takes some patience. 660 k COP is minimum wages 48 / week per month! Not per day or hour. Why pay for 1 week honest work for (maybe even a lousy) sex-session.
100 k COP incl. BBBJ.
Visit New Life and you get 45 min for 50k + maybe 20 for BBBJ with a hottie.
2012 More 15% of the small business in MDE where having serious problems / closing, at least 50% of the girls can't pay their Univeristy tuitions. 100 k COP is still a high price. There is no reason to go over that.
I thought of a max 100 COP FB page, we all mongers should earn from it or something like that and must somehow regain the respect we have lost by overpaying like crazy the last 5 years.
What will happen when the economy starts going well. Then TLN will be 3-4-500 k COP! ST 200 + 50 for BBBJ.
The mix rich short-time visiting Gringos that overpays with chash-hunting students / hookers spread the word around that there are easy money to make.
How will 10. 000 or 100. 000 paisas look 2022 when their plastics are starting to fall apart and their marketvalue doesn't allow them to by new surgery to fix it! That will be a sight!
[QUOTE=Kelso1; 1478346]Sometimes it seems when a trip starts out bad it stays bad.
This brings me to make an observation that may not be too popular with some here, but here goes. Speaking of MDE I feel with this opening of the LL and all the Mansion girls there with their 150K price tag it is really going to make MDE not the place I knew and loved. Even now the Mayo girls (some) are asking 50K instead of the usual 30K. So these business men who are promoting all this 150K stuff are really going to bite us in the butt. Yeah I know some of you guys feel it is still a bargain compared to sex prison, but fuck that.
Go ahead boys fire away.[/QUOTE]You are comparing apples to oranges.
The guys that pay 150K are looking for something different than the guys that pay 30 to 50K in el centro. They are looking for pleasant company and a GFE in the bedroom. A lot of the guys that pay 300K for "todo la noche" are paying for a diversion and haven't resigned themselves to paying for every single piece of ass that they are ever going to get for the rest of their lives. So the service and experience is a lot more important than the price.
I have met a number of guys that do not like Mansion girls and the reason is simple. They aren't getting what they paid for. They are getting a straight up sex act that can be easily had in the casas for 100K less.
I rarely go to day time casas any more. Most of the time I can't even find one chick that I would pay to bang. Last time I went I saw a couple that I would have probably banged if they weren't charging and even when I do find one that stands out enough to attract my attention she usually sucks in the bedroom. Every now and then you will find one that has potential and you can get her phone number and meet her outside the place and turn the sex from mechanical to "I can't believe a prepago just fucked me that good" but that is rare and look at all the time involved.
Mayo can be a bargain and you can find a hottie that is half the price of the Mansion. But most of the time I find nada, zilch, nothing at all that interests me. So you have to ask yourself is a night of wacking off worth the risk. If I stayed in Medellin for months instead of weeks I would frequent Mayo more often. But it just isn't worth the trade off for me right now.
[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1479174]The guys that pay 150K are looking for something different than the guys that pay 30 to 50K in el centro. They are looking for pleasant company and a GFE in the bedroom. A lot of the guys that pay 300K for "todo la noche" are paying for a diversion and haven't resigned themselves to paying for every single piece of ass that they are ever going to get for the rest of their lives. So the service and experience is a lot more important than the price.[/QUOTE]And just how does price guarantee quality of service? As long as and in as many places that I have mongered, I have never known one to depend on the other.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1479178]And just how does price guarantee quality of service? As long as and in as many places that I have mongered, I have never known one to depend on the other.[/QUOTE]I hear ya. Price more than anything guarantees looks more than service that is for sure.
So nothing is guaranteed when is comes to service but odds are much better at the Mansion. It appears to me that someone is doing some kind of quality control at the Mansion and at least trying to weed out the poor performers (if nobody likes the *Hoe* she has to go). But I have had good experiences with a couple of Mansion chicks that I have heard other guys complain about. So I think it all boils down to chatting with the chicks a bit and getting a feel for which ones click with you before heading off to the bedroom. Something you can't really do in a casa.
Bar chicks are almost as dicey as casa chicks and waaay more expensive. Only thing that I have found to increase my odds of good performance with them is by just getting their phone number and setting something up outside of the bar. If they pick a night with you over fucking some random guy at the bar at least you know she likes you better than average. Jajaja.
There is no one size fits all. Some guys get hot chicks and don't pay a dime. Others are only ever going to lousy sex no matter how much they pay. The only thing that changes with the $$$ is how good looking the chick is the gives them lousy sex.
Pick your poison. But if someone can't tell the difference between Mansion chicks or casa sex than why would they ever pay more. And they will be continually perplexed with why other guys do.
Personally I think that if you are going to take the time and effort to look for highly attractive women that sell their ass dirt cheap and give great sex. You might want to take it just a small step further and look for a girlfriend. Wouldn't be much more difficult.
When I was in Medellin, I stayed at the Mansion for a week before moving on.
Never did a Mansion girl because I felt the price was to high for what you get.
Guys go there, can't speak the language to relay what they want or how they want it. They always want the hottest girl that has been busy all day with guys that think like them and they complain when sex is mediocre.
I myself don't need the hottest girl still dripping from her last encounter. I try to find the one I have some chemistry with.
The sex is usually a lot better and cheaper.
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1479028.
When I was in MDE I was getting chicas at centro strip clubs for 60k. A casa chica was roughly 30k. 70k is hardly a bargain but I guess these days it is.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1479178]And just how does price guarantee quality of service? As long as and in as many places that I have mongered, I have never known one to depend on the other.[/QUOTE]You are an wise hobbyist. It takes most guys years to figure out that there's little correlation between price paid and the quality of service.
[QUOTE=Combo;1479300]You are an wise hobbyist. It takes most guys years to figure out that there's little correlation between price paid and the quality of service.[/QUOTE]There is definitely a correlation between price paid and looks. Quality of service is a crap shoot where you can trade cash for a place that has some quality control (thus increasing your odds of a good time) versus spending a lot more time weeding out all the poor quality yourself.
The bottom line is the quality of service you receive is going to depend a lot on you and the kind of establishment you meet her in. At the Mansion where the girls have a lot of repeat customers and a bit of competition amongst themselves. There is quite a bit of motivation to give good service. But still some guys get no love from them. And I have even overheard some girls telling others what a pig some guys are.
The Mansion is not for everybody and for a lot of guys cheap anonymous sex in the casas is as good as it gets. While for others paying extra for a top notch piece of ass is not as risky as it is for some.
In a country with 50 million inhabitants there must be a lot of "Mansions".
Many of these 50 million are good looking girls in need for money.
Prostitution is widespread amongst every social strata, both servants and clients.
Anyone that has more info?
There would exist a wide range of places that never is mentioned here. Are the sextourist from the US with it's 300 million inhabitants choosing between The Mansion or some lousy centro casas. Then prostitution is not a problem in Colombia, nor is it a good destination for sextourists. In sharp contrast, in a survey 33% of the female univeristy students in Medellíand have sold sex. But where, to whom?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1479178]And just how does price guarantee quality of service? As long as and in as many places that I have mongered, I have never known one to depend on the other.[/QUOTE]I hear ya Seņor E, and more often than not, the price to quality of service correlation works to the opposite.
[QUOTE=Ricker;1479449]I hear ya Seņor E, and more often than not, the price to quality of service correlation works to the opposite.[/QUOTE]Hmmmm. So ugly women are better in bed. Not the first time I have heard that so maybe there is some truth to it.
Are there any guys out there that have paid to have sex with hot and below average looking women? And what are the odds that each group sucks in the sack? Jajaja
[QUOTE=Cali Hentai; 1479550]Hmmmm. So ugly women are better in bed. Not the first time I have heard that so maybe there is some truth to it.
Are there any guys out there that have paid to have sex with hot and below average looking women? And what are the odds that each group sucks in the sack? Jajaja[/QUOTE]Has nothing to do with looks amigo.
If you don't get it, well that's cool too.
No time or desire to explain.
Good luck.
Here is my latest opinion. Go with the hottest girls in your eyes. If sex sucks, let it be, at least you enjoyed her beauty. Why settle on a distant choice in a perceived anticipation of better performance, when in reality sex with plain Janes often sucks too. Also, girls performance in many cases depends on men's performance. I go an extra mile with beauties and get rewarded with most.
[QUOTE=Questner;1479683]Here is my latest opinion. Go with the hottest girls in your eyes. If sex sucks, let it be, at least you enjoyed her beauty. Why settle on a distant choice in a perceived anticipation of better performance, when in reality sex with plain Janes often sucks too. Also, girls performance in many cases depends on men's performance. I go an extra mile with beauties and get rewarded with most.[/QUOTE]Clap Clap Clap! Spoken like a guy that get's laid without paying for it! LOL! I know some stuff get's lost on a message board but the foolishness of some of the comments and questions are shocking! There is no sure fire rule for having a good session. Sex either for mutual attraction and for pay depends greatly on the chemistry of the two parties involved. Use the big head guys, it's there for a reason.
Guys here complaining about price when they have the favorable currency, just imagine how local mongers must feel.
Paying $50-$100 US for an hour service is still attainable for us that earn in dollars, $200-$300 US for TLN also. I am just saying, I only make 36k a year, but shit those prices are still attainable to me, especially if one is only there for short period of time. And most here brag about being magnates and all, I don't see what is the problem with those price ranges?
BTW I agree that price does not correlate with quality in this specific subject. Women are not cars hahahahaha, a BMW is a better performing car than a Hyundai, but a $300 dollar pro is not a better performer than a $50 dollar pro, they are humans.
[QUOTE=Questner;1479683]Here is my latest opinion. Go with the hottest girls in your eyes. If sex sucks, let it be, at least you enjoyed her beauty. Why settle on a distant choice in a perceived anticipation of better performance, when in reality sex with plain Janes often sucks too. Also, girls performance in many cases depends on men's performance. I go an extra mile with beauties and get rewarded with most.[/QUOTE]I pretty much agree. Some stunners will be lame fucks and some not-so-stunners will be lame fucks. So might as well take your chances with the hotter-looking ones. Having said that, you can generally get a pretty good feel for how she'll perform by chatting / interacting with her for a bit before committing yourself.
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1479575]Has nothing to do with looks amigo.
If you don't get it, well that's cool too.
No time or desire to explain.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Nothing to explain really. It is what it is.
There are few things I find more enjoyable than having really great sex with an extremely attractive woman and I'm more than willing to pay extra for it if need be.
On the other hand having hot sex with your horny semi attractive maid almost always beats having seriously lousy sex with a model quality woman. So I understand where some of you are coming from.
However, ones own personal life experiences will dictate whether or not a guy falls into the cheaper is almost always better category or I'll pay extra to bang the hottest chick I can find because it turns out good most of the time category.
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1479330]In a country with 50 million inhabitants there must be a lot of "Mansions".
Many of these 50 million are good looking girls in need for money.
Prostitution is widespread amongst every social strata, both servants and clients.
Anyone that has more info?
There would exist a wide range of places that never is mentioned here. Are the sextourist from the US with it's 300 million inhabitants choosing between The Mansion or some lousy centro casas. Then prostitution is not a problem in Colombia, nor is it a good destination for sextourists. In sharp contrast, in a survey 33% of the female univeristy students in Medellíand have sold sex. But where, to whom?[/QUOTE]They sold it to me! At my apartment in Laureles!
[QUOTE=TweedleD;1479722]They sold it to me! At my apartment in Laureles![/QUOTE]How you find the university girl? Tell me something man.
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1479330]In a country with 50 million inhabitants there must be a lot of "Mansions".
Many of these 50 million are good looking girls in need for money.
Prostitution is widespread amongst every social strata, both servants and clients.
Anyone that has more info?
There would exist a wide range of places that never is mentioned here. Are the sextourist from the US with it's 300 million inhabitants choosing between The Mansion or some lousy centro casas. Then prostitution is not a problem in Colombia, nor is it a good destination for sextourists. In sharp contrast, in a survey 33% of the female univeristy students in Medellíand have sold sex. But where, to whom?[/QUOTE]If you are living in Medellin the Mansion is the last place you would go. If you are passing through while on vacation it is the first place you go.
Personally I think that if you are going to take the time and effort to look for highly attractive women that sell their ass dirt cheap and give great sex. You might want to take it just a small step further and look for a girlfriend. Wouldn't be much more difficult.[/QUOTE]Since when is a GF dirt cheap? Even so a GF is the best experence.
Travel agent in mde booked me and my novia on a copa domestic flight, she had my 3 gringo names [eg robert james smith] the ticket came back as 'robert james', and 2 of my novias 4 names on her ticket I questioned her and she said 'no problem' [I have spent enuf time in so. Am. To know that 'no problema' means 'muchos problemas'] I phoned copa and they said 'no way' wud I get on the flight, but ok for my novia, so with arguments with travel agent she had the ticket corrected to 'smith'. Further discussions with another travel agent and with copa at the airport here is the 'story'. Gringos with 3 names, the last name or 3rd name is required on all flights, domestic and international. Colombianas with 4 names [2 first and 2 surnames] [eg Anna louisa santos ricardo] only one surname required for domestic flights eg anna santos ok [that is what my novias ticket said and okayed by copa for the domestic flight BUT international flights require both surnames [eg santos ricardo]
[QUOTE=Bart1;1479888]Travel agent in mde booked me and my novia on a copa domestic flight, she had my 3 gringo names [eg robert james smith] the ticket came back as 'robert james', and 2 of my novias 4 names on her ticket I questioned her and she said 'no problem' [I have spent enuf time in so. Am. To know that 'no problema' means 'muchos problemas'] I phoned copa and they said 'no way' wud I get on the flight, but ok for my novia, so with arguments with travel agent she had the ticket corrected to 'smith'. Further discussions with another travel agent and with copa at the airport here is the 'story'. Gringos with 3 names, the last name or 3rd name is required on all flights, domestic and international. Colombianas with 4 names [2 first and 2 surnames] [eg Anna louisa santos ricardo] only one surname required for domestic flights eg anna santos ok [that is what my novias ticket said and okayed by copa for the domestic flight BUT international flights require both surnames [eg santos ricardo][/QUOTE]First let me say hahahahhah!"no preblem= muchos problemas" I love it! I feel ya bro! So true! Trying to get an honest answer from a Colombian is like trying to find a straight pool que in a dirty dive bar!
Let me ask why not just book your own tickets on line and cut out the monkey morons that work in travel agencies (both foreign and domestic)?
I had a typo on a reservation (my own mistake) and they gave me HELL for it at EVERY check point! I couldn't even believe they would have noticed!
[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1479685]There is no sure fire rule for having a good session. Sex either for mutual attraction and for pay depends greatly on the chemistry of the two parties involved. Use the big head guys, it's there for a reason.[/QUOTE]For me, even greater than chemistry, is anatomy. And there is nothing to do about that. Some chicks' don't get wet enough, some have shallow vaginas, some have vaginas that sit more back or more forward than others. She could have an excellent attitude and be willing to do anything, but if her anatomy is not in sync with mine then there will be no great sex no matter how much chemistry there is.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1480012]For me, even greater than chemistry, is anatomy. And there is nothing to do about that. Some chicks' don't get wet enough, some have shallow vaginas, some have vaginas that sit more back or more forward than others. She could have an excellent attitude and be willing to do anything, but if her anatomy is not in sync with mine then there will be no great sex no matter how much chemistry there is.[/QUOTE]Chemistry affects all of my sexual encounters one way or the other.
I think what you meant to say is that chemistry negatively affects your bedroom experience with women even less frequently than anatomy.
Which makes you one hell of a charmer or hung like a horse that has all the women screaming in pain. Jajaja
I don't want to get into a big argument about this, but I do think there is *some* correlation between how much you pay and the quality of the session and / or the looks of the girl. But it depends on what you value, and also how that compares to what the locals value.
And there is also certainly a strong correlation between how much you pay and the length of the session. That's one of the basic concepts in P4P right? Time is money. Just look at the printed price list in any casa, it's set by how much time with the girl. A TLN should cost more than a 15-minute quickie right? I can think of only one venue of the top of my head, Clinica de Dr. Amor in Cali, that has tiers depending on the looks of the girl; which of course is always somewhat subjective but is usually based on the amount of silicone in the girl's body, which is something that most of the local men are looking for.
But unlike the local men, a lot of guys that post here don't like the silicone look at all, which is something you have to take into account as local preferences can affect prices with certain types of girls in the well-known venues.
Another example: if you're a short-timer that's just looking for a hole to stick it in, than my long-session style would not work for you at all. You'd be better off prowling mayorista or centro for anything that doesn't look diseased. Wham-bam, thank you ma'am.
I prefer long sessions. 90-120 minutes. Many times, I start by giving the girl an awesome erotic massage for 20-30 minutes with special music that I bring to set the mood. That almost always gets her prepped for a great session afterwards with overtime a common occurrence. So the time I invest on her, I usually reap dividends, plus it's something I enjoy doing very much anyway; I get an erotic charge like no other simply caressing a woman's body, teasing her, getting her horny, etc.
So I don't mind paying a little more for a certain look or amount of time, within reasonable limits of course, and always taking into account what the locals are paying (it helps to know the language and talk to these guys once in a while, although you have to know how to do it in a way that they don't feel annoyed or threatened or weirded out).
[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1479727]If you are living in Medellin the Mansion is the last place you would go. If you are passing through while on vacation it is the first place you go.[/QUOTE]That's something I can absolutely agree with. The Mansion is just plain a fun place. A bit overpriced maybe, but IMO it's really enjoyable to have other like-minded guests to hang with. If one is sociable and visits MDE alone, I can't see staying anywhere else.
[QUOTE=John Gault;1479868]Personally I think that if you are going to take the time and effort to look for highly attractive women that sell their ass dirt cheap and give great sex. You might want to take it just a small step further and look for a girlfriend. Wouldn't be much more difficult.[/QUOTE]Since when is a GF dirt cheap? Even so a GF is the best experence.[/QUOTE]
Again, for most guys it's a matter of time. I can have a relationship with a woman in the US where I live. When I go on vacation for a week or so, I want to fuck hot-looking 18-25 year-old chicas. I don't want the hassle of a relationship and I'm willing to pay for that convenience. If I was in MDE for a few months, I would most certainly look for a GF. I'm guessing most ISGers are of the same mindframe.
Anyone know of a live lesbian show anywhere on south america?
Hi Guys,
I am in need of a hotel for one night in Bogota, as Avianca has cancelled my late night connection to CTG. It needs to be relatively close to the airport as I am arriving at 9 at night and leaving early in the am. Is there any nightlife / club / casa / strip club near this area to entertain myself, or am I stuck sitting in my hotel room for the night?
Thanks for your help,
Chris
[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1479925]First let me say hahahahhah!"no preblem= muchos problemas" I love it! I feel ya bro! So true! Trying to get an honest answer from a Colombian is like trying to find a straight pool que in a dirty dive bar!
Let me ask why not just book your own tickets on line and cut out the monkey morons that work in travel agencies (both foreign and domestic)?
I had a typo on a reservation (my own mistake) and they gave me HELL for it at EVERY check point! I couldn't even believe they would have noticed![/QUOTE]I usually book online as you suggest, but the mentioned trip was a tour package Medellin to San Andres, via Copa, hotel [Calypso Hotel] and meals. Total cost 2, 000, 000cop for 2 persons. Copa airfare only was about 60% to 70% of the total cost of what I paid for the "package", so the tour package was a really great deal. Calypso hotel booking thru "hotels. Com" was USD$220 a nite and our package was for 4 nites, so anyone looking at a San Andres trip check out the packages before booking air and hotel separately. We did the trip last February and were booked into The Blue Tone Hotel, Avoid, Avoid Avoid. Hotels. Com price about USD$180 a nite. Wud be overpriced at USD$70. RE "hotels. Com", sometimes same price as booking directly with the hotel, which I usually do because usually a better cancellation policy if needed, but sometimes I see a 20 to 30% discount with 'hotels. Com' eg. Cartagena Plaza hotel in Cartagena. I stayed there in August, I had booked one nite to check it out as I usually do even if I require 3 nites which wanted, for the second nite the desk price was 20 or 30 % higher, when I questioned them they said book online again with 'hotels. Com. Go figure, which I did for 2 more nites
[QUOTE=Travel Doc10; 1481936]Hi Guys,
I am in need of a hotel for one night in Bogota, as Avianca has cancelled my late night connection to CTG. It needs to be relatively close to the airport as I am arriving at 9 at night and leaving early in the am. Is there any nightlife / club / casa / strip club near this area to entertain myself, or am I stuck sitting in my hotel room for the night?[/QUOTE]No, there are a few nightclub areas in neighborhoods not too far from the airport, but they are only active on fri and sat night and there is no obvious P4p. Closest action would be some place like La Piscina en Santa Fe red light district. Strippers, p4p, drinking, around a swimming pool. But do NOT get drunk in this area. And have the doorman get you a taxi to take you back to your hotel.
-zing
I will be visiting all of these cities. I am not into the clubs or the Mansion. Does anyone have recommendations on chicas who want to earn a bit extra money but do not do this full time for a living. Perhaps, you know chicas that want to go out to dinner before some fun. Does anyone have any connections / friends?
I need to find a good Orthodontic clinic in Medellin or Bogotá, any recommendations?
Thanks a lot people.
[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1483960]I need to find a good Orthodontic clinic in Medellin or Bogotá, any recommendations?
Thanks a lot people.[/QUOTE]Hotel Medellin Plaza can refer you to their guy, but you need to spend a night there. Their dentist is quite good and very inexpensive.
[QUOTE=Socker;1483962]Hotel Medellin Plaza can refer you to their guy, but you need to spend a night there. Their dentist is quite good and very inexpensive.[/QUOTE]I already have my apartment booked. There is no way to ask nicely to them for that information?
Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=Socker;1483962]Hotel Medellin Plaza can refer you to their guy, but you need to spend a night there. Their dentist is quite good and very inexpensive.[/QUOTE]I had a root canal done 10 days ago, it was one tooth with 3 roots, total time in chair was 5 hours over 2 visits, doc said very difficult because it was a small tooth with 3 roots instead of the usual one root. 380, 000cop. Highly recommend the doc. Offices in centro and el poblado. Dr. William Perez Baquero. 231. 7319 centro office. 3116978 el poblado. Passable english, Dr. Mauricio Rangel Blanco. Passable english 571. 5090. In Clinica Medellin Ca 54 #46.
27 [Big modern clinic 'centro', with all types of docs on 15 floors referred me to the lst doc when he saw probs with 3 roots on one small tooth, I went to him for the permanent filing several days after the canal. 50, 000cop
[QUOTE=Travel Doc10; 1481936]Hi Guys,
I am in need of a hotel for one night in Bogota, as Avianca has cancelled my late night connection to CTG. It needs to be relatively close to the airport as I am arriving at 9 at night and leaving early in the am. Is there any nightlife / club / casa / strip club near this area to entertain myself, or am I stuck sitting in my hotel room for the night?
Thanks for your help,
Chris[/QUOTE]The area is called fontibon. Rates are about 20-30 bucks a night. There is one with a bar right next door. And all the sweet things that comes with bars.). Hit me up for more detailed info, In fact I will be staying in this area again in December.
[QUOTE=Asianpussylover;1484333]The area is called fontibon. Rates are about 20-30 bucks a night. There is one with a bar right next door. And all the sweet things that comes with bars.). Hit me up for more detailed info, In fact I will be staying in this area again in December.[/QUOTE]Hello Asianpussylover, I hear that Fontibon is a good area for chica. I need your suggestion. It seems from your post hotel cost is not much for a night. Though I stay in Bogota and have a rented apt in Chico, I would like to do it in hotel or motel. Can you suggest a specific hotel with phone number or address?
Is it possible for you to provide me a contact number of a good GFE chica you have experienced in that area. I would like to call her for preferably TLN.
I do not speak much Spanish and originally from India.
Thanks in anticpiation,
LoveQuest
Great list of 'tips'
I have 1 overriding rule that has worked well for me that I'd like to share:
"If she's too good to be true, she probably is. Move on"
Happy and SAFE hunting.
[QUOTE=LoveQuest; 1484376]Hello Asianpussylover, I hear that Fontibon is a good area for chica. I need your suggestion. It seems from your post hotel cost is not much for a night. Though I stay in Bogota and have a rented apt in Chico, I would like to do it in hotel or motel. Can you suggest a specific hotel with phone number or address?
Is it possible for you to provide me a contact number of a good GFE chica you have experienced in that area. I would like to call her for preferably TLN.
I do not speak much Spanish and originally from India.
Thanks in anticpiation,
LoveQuest[/QUOTE]If you are looking for an inexpensive place to stay that is 10 minutes away from the airport and in a safe part of town then fontibon is a good bet. If you are looking for ambiance like the old 42 street of new york or a mini Pattaya like carnival then go to Santa fe at night. Santa fe has inexpensive places to stay but i would not recommend the area if you are timid and not street smart. If you are make sure you take a cab at night. If you want a 20 dollar shag in safety then check out the strip clubs in downtown Bogota. It is not an experience to be missed. I posted about it way back and someone followed up on my advice-and had a good time as well. With a 100 dollars you will run out of sperm before you run out of money. If you want fontibon specifics then dropme an email.Overall, Bogota is an expensive place.
[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1483960]I need to find a good Orthodontic clinic in Medellin or Bogotá, any recommendations?
Thanks a lot people.[/QUOTE]I have been member / client at Sonria which have 10-20 clinics over the country. Good service at good prices, serious.
This list was posted for Chile. Are the same terms ok for Columbia? BTW ty Zing23.
Originally Posted by Zing23 [View Original Post]
Some Chilean Spanish that you will run into in La Estokada, in the adverts, and with the girls:
Completos. With anal.
Nino. Penis.
Nina. Vagina.
Luk. 1000 pesos in La Estokada, as in 30 luk.
Mamon. BJ.
S / C. Sin condon, without condon.
C/ C. Con condon, with condom.
Americana. BJ, finish in her mouth.
Conserje = doorman.
Ubicación = area or neighborhood.
Estatura = height, in meters.
[QUOTE=Fred Gold; 1487413]This list was posted for Chile. Are the same terms ok for Columbia? BTW ty Zing23.
Originally Posted by Zing23 [View Original Post]
Some Chilean spanish that you will run into in La Estokada, in the adverts, and with the girls:
Completos. With anal.
Nino. Penis.
Nina. Vagina.
Luk. 1000 pesos in La Estokada, as in 30 luk.
Mamon. BJ.
S / see. Sin condon, without condon.
See / see. Con condon, with condom.
Americana. BJ, finish in her mouth.
Conserje = doorman.
Ubicacióand = area or neighborhood.
Estatura = height, in meters.[/QUOTE]Slang is different in different is every country and at times even by region. I grew up with Dominicans and Puerta Ricans so I knew their swears and slang. When I wen to Mexico most of the slang words did not apply.
In Argentina "Servicio Completo" was the term for Anal have not heard it used in Colombia. Nor Americano, "nino y nina" por sexy parts. The other seem to be actual Spanish words while not commonly used should be the same. My best advice would be to study and pratice basic Spanish and not focus on slang terms. When people hear you use them they assume you have a better grasp on the language than you actually do. Also with basic language skills you will have a more interactive and richer experience with the girls.
At Fred Gold, actually none of these words are used as said in Colombia. The best way to learn is to read a local sex forum in Spanish for each country.
[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1487919]Slang is different in different is every country and at times even by region.[/QUOTE]I could imagine him going and telling someone he wanted to do such and such to their "nina". Certainly an easy way to get an ass-kicking.
I thought this was pretty funny and interesting: [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/25/sex-strike-sees-colombian-women-demand-repaved-road-crossed-legs-movement_n_4163044.html?1382706453&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008[/url]
Is it time to go to Barbacoas?
[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1487919]Slang is different in different is every country and at times even by region. .
When people hear you use them they assume you have a better grasp on the language than you actually do.[/QUOTE]So true. I think the best advice is to know Spanish slang and idiomatic expressions, but never use it. In fact, it's sometimes advantageous to have people think that you don't know any Spanish. I was once stopped by a Mexican police officer who wanted a bribe or propina. I smiled at him like an idiot and gave him a candy. He shook his head so I gave him another piece of candy. He walked away from me, but kept the candy.
You have all made good points about the importance of learning the language! The question is: can you teach an old dog new tricks?
Really, thanks for the pointers. Happy Hunting FRED
The mentality in Perú seem to be the same as among Colombianas, it's normal for them to offer sex for money or accept and offer, to financce fashion accessoirs and clothing and the university tuition aand making it easier to bribe the professor if she has shows a classy style. That's thnings are run in Latinamerica. They loose 50% of their talents to the 1th world because of this student / teacher fucking in combinaion that US and European companies goes there and seek up the real talents and offer them to work for a payment that is modest for us, but maybe 3-5-10 times higher than Peruvian companies pay.
In general Perú in general, Lima and Arequipa, I lived there six months 07-08 was that the girls where exceptionally ugly compared to Colombianas from Medellín, while "rolas" from Bogotá are in the middle.
I was having lunch at Plaza de Armas in Arequipa one day, a fantastic place. I started to look for hotties, then I looked over the plaza, only to find a hottie. I did not see one! Amazing. Short, compact body built, few girls are hot. The P4P though had a place that I discovered just before going home, of course it was closed, but there it's said they have hotties for reasonable prices.
I visited and stared to fuck a Colombian girl, she was the hottest at the club, the others Peruvian normal to chubby girls. She, Silvia was a 9/10 from Calí.
Fabiola is a typical Peruvian with this quadrate body.
Perú has many things to offer, but girls who is really beautiful have the upper hand, while it is the opposite in Medellín. There it is super easy to get a model girlfriend, while it is imposible in Perú.
But you will find a good one, just needs more time and work, a lot more work.
2005 made my first long-time trip and stayed in buenos Aires as a base. Then perú. Since 2009 I go to Medellín, which has perfect climate and perfect girls and a progressive and modern attitude.
Perú is an anchor in the Latinamerican comunity of countries. They are the only country that really have, along with México, but much stronger in perú, that put strong emphasis that they are indians and mestizos. In Colombia they are ashamed of being indian, they look like pocahontas, but if asked, they say they have no indian blood, even if she looks like a reincarnation of Pocahontas! My friend here in Sweden married a Méxican girl, with very pure indian looks; black hair, black eyes, short, etc. So I said" there will be handsome babies of metixŋzos and a Swedish viking". They where offended. She explained that her ancestors where Spanish (LOL) , but it became embarrising.
Why be ashamed of being Indian, while it is so obvious. It's like a Barbie saying she is a Ken.
What latinamerica needs is normalisation, harmony in respect to there heritage.
Evo Morales, former Chávez, blacks in Brasil, must have chabge attitude towards themselves and in politics, towards USA. A normalisation, Colombia has come a long way on this rocky and long road. Just like México. In spite of the Drug War. But don't deny that you are indian or mestizo! I broaught home 10 fashion revistas from Colombia a few months ago. 90% of the models are European looking, almost Nordic looks! I hardly never saw sucha woman in Perú in 6 months! Those I saw where backpackers, not Peruvians.
One can just hope that this violent, conflict creating attitude diminish and that latinamerica find richness in exporting to The US and Europe and China and Japan. And also using the enormous advantage they have- they can offer a good life for a an American or European with a modest pension, including often private. Good health care.
But things doesn't seem to develop in that direction. The US and Canada is still to agressive in their industrail policy in those countries, especially mining. Aid and depreciation of huge debt to countries like Ecuador is a must. Normal politicians, with fundamental goals as free health care and education, insted of revolution and nationalisation of US companies, must come.
This is however only dreams, and it will be so for a very long time. Chávez in Venezuela collaborating with the 100% corrupt Kirschner in Argentina and naive Evo Morales in Bolivia, radicals in Ecudaor makes this continent unable to get loose of the ties that they have created for themselves and used by cynical American companies.
We looser, sex-tourist mongers would have to pay twice of todays prices, but strip joints and taxis would be serious, making your vacation, not a 2-4 week experience in which 50% of your energy goes to thinking of your security!
And you could find real girls, really interested in moving to your country, and the first thing, knowing that it exist sch a country and where it is located, and that have learned at least basic English. A phenomenen that strikes me is that all countries have English as mandatory subject in school, but only max. 5% can speak it properly.
Mal nutrition, and thereby lower IQ, since they can't afford nutrious food and milk is also a Catch 22.
At last, we find Latinamerica like a cultural union. But they have not had a seriuos war since the 1880s. 130 years ago. But competition with a country like Colombia and Brasil making progress in almost every area, can find themselves in deep conflict with failing neighbours like Bolivia, Argentina, maybe Chile while it's mining industry already has reach it's peak in the late 1980s.
A war in Europe or serious conflict seems far far away, the same for US / CAN / MEX. But while economc dominance is easier to acept if it comes from US investing, it seems much harder to accept investments and activites from your neighbouring country. That is a greater obstacle that we can imagine. Argentina is defeated once agian, fuking up their currency the 17th time since 1895! They despice both Chileans and Brasilians and will turn revolutionary red and nationalize their industries etc. When the frustration reach 1970th's levels!
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1489515]At last, we find Latinamerica like a cultural union. But they have not had a seriuos war since the 1880s. 130 years ago. But competition with a country like Colombia and Brasil making progress in almost every area, can find themselves in deep conflict with failing neighbours like Bolivia, Argentina, maybe Chile while it's mining industry already has reach it's peak in the late 1980s.
A war in Europe or serious conflict seems far far away, the same for US / CAN / MEX. But while economc dominance is easier to acept if it comes from US investing, it seems much harder to accept investments and activites from your neighbouring country. That is a greater obstacle that we can imagine. Argentina is defeated once agian, fuking up their currency the 17th time since 1895! They despice both Chileans and Brasilians and will turn revolutionary red and nationalize their industries etc. When the frustration reach 1970th's levels![/QUOTE]Mmmmm really? I think you just posted your homework on the ISG. Lol
You know BlancoVikingo I have no idea what the heck that you're talking about. Its sounds like its beyond my pay grade and level of education.
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1489515]The mentality in Perú seem to be the same as among Colombianas, it's normal for them to offer sex for money or accept and offer, to financce fashion accessoirs and clothing and the university tuition aand making it easier to bribe the professor if she has shows a classy style. That's thnings are run in Latinamerica. They loose 50% of their talents to the 1th world because of this student / teacher fucking in combinaion that US and European companies goes there and seek up the real talents and offer them to work for a payment that is modest for us, but maybe 3-5-10 times higher than Peruvian companies pay.
In general Perú in general, Lima and Arequipa, I lived there six months 07-08 was that the girls where exceptionally ugly compared to Colombianas from Medellíand, while "rolas" from Bogotá are in the middle.
I was having lunch at Plaza de Armas in Arequipa one day, a fantastic place. I started to look for hotties, then I looked over the plaza, only to find a hottie. I did not see one! Amazing. Short, compact body built, few girls are hot. The P4P though had a place that I discovered just before going home, of course it was closed, but there it's said they have hotties for reasonable prices.
I visited and stared to fuck a Colombian girl, she was the hottest at the club, the others Peruvian normal to chubby girls. She, Silvia was a 9/10 from Calí.
Fabiola is a typical Peruvian with this quadrate body.
Perú has many things to offer, but girls who is really beautiful have the upper hand, while it is the opposite in Medellíand. There it is super easy to get a model girlfriend, while it is imposible in Perú.
But you will find a good one, just needs more time and work, a lot more work.
2005 made my first long-time trip and stayed in buenos Aires as a base. Then perú. Since 2009 I go to Medellíand, which has perfect climate and perfect girls and a progressive and modern attitude.
Perú is an anchor in the Latinamerican comunity of countries. They are the only country that really have, along with México, but much stronger in perú, that put strong emphasis that they are indians and mestizos. In Colombia they are ashamed of being indian, they look like pocahontas, but if asked, they say they have no indian blood, even if she looks like a reincarnation of Pocahontas! My friend here in Sweden married a Méxican girl, with very pure indian looks; black hair, black eyes, short, etc. So I said" there will be handsome babies of metixŋzos and a Swedish viking". They where offended. She explained that her ancestors where Spanish (LOL) , but it became embarrising.
Why be ashamed of being Indian, while it is so obvious. It's like a Barbie saying she is a Ken.
What latinamerica needs is normalisation, harmony in respect to there heritage.
Evo Morales, former Chávez, blacks in Brasil, must have chabge attitude towards themselves and in politics, towards USA. A normalisation, Colombia has come a long way on this rocky and long road. Just like México. In spite of the Drug War. But don't deny that you are indian or mestizo! I broaught home 10 fashion revistas from Colombia a few months ago. 90% of the models are European looking, almost Nordic looks! I hardly never saw sucha woman in Perú in 6 months! Those I saw where backpackers, not Peruvians.
One can just hope that this violent, conflict creating attitude diminish and that latinamerica find richness in exporting to The US and Europe and China and Japan. And also using the enormous advantage they have- they can offer a good life for a an American or European with a modest pension, including often private. Good health care.
But things doesn't seem to develop in that direction. The US and Canada is still to agressive in their industrail policy in those countries, especially mining. Aid and depreciation of huge debt to countries like Ecuador is a must. Normal politicians, with fundamental goals as free health care and education, insted of revolution and nationalisation of US companies, must come.
This is however only dreams, and it will be so for a very long time. Chávez in Venezuela collaborating with the 100% corrupt Kirschner in Argentina and naive Evo Morales in Bolivia, radicals in Ecudaor makes this continent unable to get loose of the ties that they have created for themselves and used by cynical American companies.
We looser, sex-tourist mongers would have to pay twice of todays prices, but strip joints and taxis would be serious, making your vacation, not a 2-4 week experience in which 50% of your energy goes to thinking of your security!
And you could find real girls, really interested in moving to your country, and the first thing, knowing that it exist sch a country and where it is located, and that have learned at least basic English. A phenomenen that strikes me is that all countries have English as mandatory subject in school, but only max. 5% can speak it properly.
Mal nutrition, and thereby lower IQ, since they can't afford nutrious food and milk is also a Catch 22.
At last, we find Latinamerica like a cultural union. But they have not had a seriuos war since the 1880s. 130 years ago. But competition with a country like Colombia and Brasil making progress in almost every area, can find themselves in deep conflict with failing neighbours like Bolivia, Argentina, maybe Chile while it's mining industry already has reach it's peak in the late 1980s.
A war in Europe or serious conflict seems far far away, the same for US / CAN / MEX. But while economc dominance is easier to acept if it comes from US investing, it seems much harder to accept investments and activites from your neighbouring country. That is a greater obstacle that we can imagine. Argentina is defeated once agian, fuking up their currency the 17th time since 1895! They despice both Chileans and Brasilians and will turn revolutionary red and nationalize their industries etc. When the frustration reach 1970th's levels![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1489515]The mentality in Perú seem to be the same as among Colombianas, it's normal for them to offer sex for money or accept and offer, to financce fashion accessoirs and clothing and the university tuition aand making it easier to bribe the professor if she has shows a classy style. That's thnings are run in Latinamerica.
Perú has many things to offer, but girls who is really beautiful have the upper hand, while it is the opposite in Medellíand. There it is super easy to get a model girlfriend, while it is imposible in Perú.[/QUOTE]Bullshit. I just got in from Peru a few hours ago. It amazes me how guys only deal with hookers then assert that ALL women from a certain place are hookers. Your statement that, " it's normal for them to offer sex for money" could not be farther from the truth. The only Peruanas that I have ever had to give money to were those at Las Cucardas and Trocadero fuck houses.
This time when I was down, a girl took the bus from Trujillo to see me. When she arrived in Lima she had to take a taxi to the hotel where we were staying. When we were out to dinner the next day I asked her how much the taxi was. She said 7 soles. When the waiter brought my change I handed her 20 soles for the taxi both ways. She refused to accept it. She paid her own bus fare both ways as well. This is my experience in general in Latin America, outside of hooker circles.
My ex-girlfriend in Lima is a manager at an international accounting firm. Every time that she has come to visit me in the USA she has paid 100% of her ticket. And the first girlfriend that I had in Lima had her own radio and TV shows. Whenever I came to Lima she would always pay for my hotel and pay every time that we went out. Once when her car was in the shop and she met me at the airport, she overpaid for a taxi to take us to the hotel. She paid $20 for the taxi. Afterwards I informed her that she should have only paid 20 soles.
The same thing goes for Colombia. I have never had to give a girl who was not a hooker money outside of getting back and forth in a taxi. And just like my example in Peru, most of them will not accept it. Start fucking with normal women so you will learn not to group the general population in the same boat with the small number of hookers with whom you have had contact.
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Maybe he should've let his dog eat it. I give him an B for effort, D- for spelling & syntax, F for brevity & F- for content if I knew what he's talking about. I wonder if he turned in a casa report for his social studies class.
[QUOTE=Ricker;1489771]Mmmmm really? I think you just posted your homework on the ISG. Lol[/QUOTE]
Not really a place to go looking for pussy because ill have a regular girl with me. I don't want to take her to a prepago hangout just a cool loungy place to drink and listen to music. Not really into night clubs. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Think of a place youd like to take your regular paisa noviecita.
I have had girlfriends very good looking, especially in Arequipa, she had her own business.
I don't sat that every girl is a prepago, but 33% of the university students in Medellin do it. In Peru and Argentina they have other ways. The professor takes a day of, while his female student runs the classes, it is commonly so in public University of Buenos Aires. This I had been told by A-students an Bs As- a cultural pattern that upset them, and they want to leave their beloves homeland.
In Peru I encountered corruption in a way that one not from the 1st wolrd think it could exist.
No, hookers, gold-diggers are one kinf of females.
No. "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac"
Girls do it when you or her family have control of her. There are a huge number of semi-prepagos in both Peru & Colombia. They have 1-3 clients a week to pay for fashion, future plastic-surgery, etc. Big boobs and a tiny waist, and even greater butts as in some occasions is embarrising in the social world, but perfect for being a prepago, just like the men wants.
Social pressure makes him marriage to a 5-6 social level on Colombia 6 being the highest. Then he fuck around with prepagos. It the same mentality in all of Latin America. So it not wrong to hang out with either girls from 5-6 estrata, they see you as an investment oportunity and will be questioned about what you work, your salary, your level of society in the US.
There are an acceptance, even if it is descret man-man, but every man who can afford 100 Soles or 50-150 soles are doing it, singles, engaged, married.
It+s a 50-50. 50% of the good lookings would never sell their bodies, while 50% is all open, wanting the luxurious accessoirs they can buy and study at a private University. Or marry a in comparison, rich, gringo.
We are very clear about their goals and strategies about how much they can / want to work, what they will do with the savings. Only those, maybe +50% already have small children, for them they have the pressure on them, since a young female wih 1-3 kids are attractive to no extranjero.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1489925]Bullshit. I just got in from Peru a few hours ago. It amazes me how guys only deal with hookers then assert that ALL women from a certain place are hookers. Your statement that," it's normal for them to offer sex for money" could not be farther from the truth. The only Peruanas that I have ever had to give money to were those at Las Cucardas and Trocadero fuck houses.
This time when I was down, a girl took the bus from Trujillo to see me. When she arrived in Lima she had to take a taxi to the hotel where we were staying. When we were out to dinner the next day I asked her how much the taxi was. She said 7 soles. When the waiter brought my change I handed her 20 soles for the taxi both ways. She refused to accept it. She paid her own bus fare both ways as well. This is my experience in general in Latin America, outside of hooker circles.
My ex-girlfriend in Lima is a manager at an international accounting firm. Every time that she has come to visit me in the USA she has paid 100% of her ticket. And the first girlfriend that I had in Lima had her own radio and TV shows. Whenever I came to Lima she would always pay for my hotel and pay every time that we went out. Once when her car was in the shop and she met me at the airport, she overpaid for a taxi to take us to the hotel. She paid $20 for the taxi. Afterwards I informed her that she should have only paid 20 soles.
The same thing goes for Colombia. I have never had to give a girl who was not a hooker money outside of getting back and forth in a taxi. And just like my example in Peru, most of them will not accept it. Start fucking with normal women so you will learn not to group the general population in the same boat with the small number of hookers with whom you have had contact.[/QUOTE]
Try Sinko Bar on Ave Poblado. Across from CC Oviedo.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1490395]Not really a place to go looking for pussy because ill have a regular girl with me. I don't want to take her to a prepago hangout just a cool loungy place to drink and listen to music. Not really into night clubs. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Think of a place youd like to take your regular paisa noviecita.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1490835]I have had girlfriends very good looking, especially in Arequipa, she had her own business.
I don't sat that every girl is a prepago, but 33% of the university students in Medellin do it. In Peru and Argentina they have other ways. The professor takes a day of, while his female student runs the classes, it is commonly so in public University of Buenos Aires. This I had been told by A-students an Bs As- a cultural pattern that upset them, and they want to leave their beloves homeland.
In Peru I encountered corruption in a way that one not from the 1st wolrd think it could exist.
No, hookers, gold-diggers are one kinf of females.
No."Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac"
Girls do it when you or her family have control of her. There are a huge number of semi-prepagos in both Peru & Colombia. They have 1-3 clients a week to pay for fashion, future plastic-surgery, etc. Big boobs and a tiny waist, and even greater butts as in some occasions is embarrising in the social world, but perfect for being a prepago, just like the men wants.
Social pressure makes him marriage to a 5-6 social level on Colombia 6 being the highest. Then he fuck around with prepagos. It the same mentality in all of Latin America. So it not wrong to hang out with either girls from 5-6 estrata, they see you as an investment oportunity and will be questioned about what you work, your salary, your level of society in the US.
There are an acceptance, even if it is descret man-man, but every man who can afford 100 Soles or 50-150 soles are doing it, singles, engaged, married.
It+s a 50-50. 50% of the good lookings would never sell their bodies, while 50% is all open, wanting the luxurious accessoirs they can buy and study at a private University. Or marry a in comparison, rich, gringo.
We are very clear about their goals and strategies about how much they can / want to work, what they will do with the savings. Only those, maybe +50% already have small children, for them they have the pressure on them, since a young female wih 1-3 kids are attractive to no extranjero.[/QUOTE]Yes, but this is not earth shattering news, seņor.
We all know and get it; there are many prepagos in Colombia, Peru and all over S. America.
Thanks for the update though.
I arrived in Medellin airport from LAX through Panama on COPA this morning. The migration agent told me I was over the 180 days per year staying in Colombia. They sent me and my luggage on the next COPA flight to Panama. I have been doing this for years, and it is possible that toward the end of the year I exceed the maximum allowed numbers of days, but usually they don't bother to count. I don't know if their new computer system detected this, or if I was unlucky and got a picky migration agent who decided to count the days. They did not want to talk.
[QUOTE=Headache;1492200]I arrived in Medellin airport from LAX through Panama on COPA this morning. The migration agent told me I was over the 180 days per year staying in Colombia. They sent me and my luggage on the next COPA flight to Panama. I have been doing this for years, and it is possible that toward the end of the year I exceed the maximum allowed numbers of days, but usually they don't bother to count. I don't know if their new computer system detected this, or if I was unlucky and got a picky migration agent who decided to count the days. They did not want to talk.[/QUOTE]Well that sucks.
It is all computerized. When they run your passport upon entry they find out all of your travel details within Colombia. I am at about 5 1/2 months per year so I have not had to deal with this yet. I have a friend that has been living in MDE for 9 months per year and he pays for the extra 3 months of residency.
Do not enter Colombia if you have been here 180 days per year without a visa.
Reports from the Medellin Mansion say some of their guests have been turned away at the airport. So it is not just me, their new computerized system counts everything. The Migracion agents did not want to talk, and it seems the eviction process at the airport was so rapid that they must have been doing it regularly.
[QUOTE=Headache;1492200]I arrived in Medellin airport from LAX through Panama on COPA this morning. The migration agent told me I was over the 180 days per year staying in Colombia. They sent me and my luggage on the next COPA flight to Panama. I have been doing this for years, and it is possible that toward the end of the year I exceed the maximum allowed numbers of days, but usually they don't bother to count. I don't know if their new computer system detected this, or if I was unlucky and got a picky migration agent who decided to count the days. They did not want to talk.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear of your troubles. Did they say how long you had to stay out?
[QUOTE=Headache;1492200]I arrived in Medellin airport from LAX through Panama on COPA this morning. The migration agent told me I was over the 180 days per year staying in Colombia. They sent me and my luggage on the next COPA flight to Panama. I have been doing this for years, and it is possible that toward the end of the year I exceed the maximum allowed numbers of days, but usually they don't bother to count. I don't know if their new computer system detected this, or if I was unlucky and got a picky migration agent who decided to count the days. They did not want to talk.[/QUOTE]
You can get a student visa and take some classes and get a paper from the institute. First you apply at Migraciones in Bogota or in Medellin, there is an agency, TIC recommended by the student coordinator on UPB in Medellin. I got a student visa, with that it was no problem staying in Colombia 6 months. Cost about 300k COP. Or you can choose other forms of visa, that you have a certain amount of money, etc, a business etc. I think the Colombian embassy in the US can help you with that, or give you advice how to do it when arrived in Colombia.
Well, do you believe that US migration agents are willing to talk if someboby violates the rules?
[QUOTE=Headache; 1492900]Do not enter Colombia if you have been here 180 days per year without a visa.
Reports from the Medellin Mansion say some of their guests have been turned away at the airport. So it is not just me, their new computerized system counts everything. The Migracion agents did not want to talk, and it seems the eviction process at the airport was so rapid that they must have been doing it regularly.[/QUOTE]
The limit for tourist VISA is 180 days during a 12 month period.
Here is an agency that I can recommend; [url]http://tlicolombia.com/[/url]
I think they can help you out.
I am considering retirement next year at age 54. Having visited several places in the world, I am giving some consideration to 3 places. Angeles city PI, Chiang Mai Thailand, or Medellin Colombia.
Having visited all 3 places several times in the past, and upon drawing up lists as to the merits of each location, I have one concern I would like to ask a Retired person in similar circumstance.
I would like to know your long term thoughts of living in a place that you have only visited on vacation, as compared to long term retirement living. More to the point.
1. In AC / Medellin for example, are you still going out hitting the bars 3 plus nights a week. 1 year into retirement?
2. Do most Expats end up hitting the Bars early in Retirement and then settling down with a steady GF after a few months?
3. Does what seem like a great place for vacation turn out to be a very boring place after a few months?
In essence, does the appeal of the "monger scene" lose its luster after you live there.
Additional data. Do not consider monthly budget as a factor when responding. Also. My plan is to always rent in all locations.
Not looking so much on Opine on location. But sage advice I. E. Short vacation vs long term reality.
Have you been to Argentina?
You will not get bored there. They are many retirees in B. A.
I have not been to Chiang Mai, but the others I have been to.
[QUOTE=ZipGun6; 1507236]I am considering retirement next year at age 54. Having visited several places in the world, I am giving some consideration to 3 places. Angeles city PI, Chiang Mai Thailand, or Medellin Colombia.
Having visited all 3 places several times in the past, and upon drawing up lists as to the merits of each location, I have one concern I would like to ask a Retired person in similar circumstance.
I would like to know your long term thoughts of living in a place that you have only visited on vacation, as compared to long term retirement living. More to the point.
1. In AC / Medellin for example, are you still going out hitting the bars 3 plus nights a week. 1 year into retirement?
2. Do most Expats end up hitting the Bars early in Retirement and then settling down with a steady GF after a few months?
3. Does what seem like a great place for vacation turn out to be a very boring place after a few months?
In essence, does the appeal of the "monger scene" lose its luster after you live there.
Additional data. Do not consider monthly budget as a factor when responding. Also. My plan is to always rent in all locations.
Not looking so much on Opine on location. But sage advice I. E. Short vacation vs long term reality.[/QUOTE]
Have any of you guys ever gone scuba diving anywhere in Columbia in addition to the usual monger activities?
Taganga, near Santa Marta is the SCUBA capitol of the country, but I hear there are great diving opportunities in San Andres island.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1510069]Have any of you guys ever gone scuba diving anywhere in Columbia in addition to the usual monger activities?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;1510069]Have any of you guys ever gone scuba diving anywhere in Columbia in addition to the usual monger activities?[/QUOTE]As Lmarcone said, the diving is in Taganga. I dove with Aquantis. I stayed in El Rodadero and took a taxi in the mornings over the mountains, through Santa Marta, over more mountains and into Taganga. Then in the afternoons I took the bus back, stopping to explore Santa Marta. The diving there is nothing to write home about. The P4P was scarce. There were a couple of girls on the beach in El Rodadero, but I think that has pretty much dried up. Also, in Santa Marta proper there were a few spots where I got short time. Search the Santa Marta thread for my reports and others that are more up to date.
[QUOTE=JoeLover; 1510392]Medellin Colombia is next on my list to visit but right off the bat and even without the visit, the crime rate or there at of crime disqualifies it instantly as a retirement destination.
PI. Cebu only, good value, can be done.
But CM trumps all. Not contest.[/QUOTE]How many times have you visited Colombia? What parts? What crime stats are you making this based on? From the time you come out of the airport you see police everywhere. In Medellin at every metro stop there is a police officer. Driving, walking, standing, and if they could you would see them in helicopters hovering. Colombia has become a very safe place. You have boasted quite a bit on the Colombian threads without being there to base opinions. In Barranquilla you would see police checkpoints on nice days looking for various things. At the beaches you have police, centro you might even see soldiers. You sir are misinformed and obviously basing your opinion on the 80's cartel days.
You wrote on December 16th that you are a newbie to Colombia. Since posting your newbie comments all you do is talk about antelopes and a lot of nonsense comparing Colombia to Asia or wherever you come from. What's the purpose of your trip? If you don't like Colombia then why go? Where is your posting history for Cebu and all other places you ventured?
Great fares if anybody is on the fence about visiting from the NYC area.
Careful gents. I just went on the Avianca website looking for tickets for my girl in Barranquilla to come see me in Bogota in a couple of weeks. The site was set to United States. It gave me a price back of $128 each way. I was thinking that I have never paid anything like that for a ticket inside of Colombia. My research on San Andres has given me those kinds of prices, but never anything in the mainland. So I checked a far off date in February and it gave me the same prices. Then, I cleared my cache and went to the site again and set it on Colombia and it gave me a price of 87,000 pesos ($45) each way. What made me look to begin with is that I am requiring her to buy her own ticket. She told me the price was 290,000 pesos roundtrip through despegar.com.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1516003]Careful gents. I just went on the Avianca website looking for tickets for my girl in Barranquilla to come see me in Bogota in a couple of weeks. The site was set to United States. It gave me a price back of $128 each way. I was thinking that I have never paid anything like that for a ticket inside of Colombia. My research on San Andres has given me those kinds of prices, but never anything in the mainland. So I checked a far off date in February and it gave me the same prices. Then, I cleared my cache and went to the site again and set it on Colombia and it gave me a price of 87,000 pesos ($45) each way. What made me look to begin with is that I am requiring her to buy her own ticket. She told me the price was 290,000 pesos roundtrip through despegar.com.[/QUOTE]I guess if you choose anything that is US it automatically calculates "Gringo" prices in. I've been looking to see where to travel too while in south america based in Medellin and prices were outrages when I switced it to spanish, the prices dropped 50% on average.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;1516020]I guess if you choose anything that is US it automatically calculates "Gringo" prices in. I've been looking to see where to travel too while in South America based in Medellin and prices were outrageous. When I switced it to spanish, the prices dropped 50% on average.[/QUOTE]This is actually very common in South America. I know that Taca and LAN Peru also pull this move.
[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1516100]This is actually very common in South America. I know that Taca and LAN Peru also pull this move.[/QUOTE]Don't you have to have Peruvian ID to get the Peruvian rate down there?
I know they fucked us when we went to Macchu Pichu. You buy tickets for the place at the civic center the night before. If you are a student then it costs $20 less. I had kept my student ID from when I was in grad school. Well the next morning at the gate they made all the gringos who had gotten a student discount pay the extra $20 before they could enter the place.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1517198]Don't you have to have Peruvian I'd to get the Peruvian rate down there?
I know they fucked us when we went to Macchu Pichu. You buy tickets for the place at the civic center the night before. If you are a student then it costs $20 less. I had kept my student ID from when I was in grad school. Well the next morning at the gate they made all the gringos who had gotten a student discount pay the extra $20 before they could enter the place.[/QUOTE]No man, I was just taking about the Airlines and their web sites. I guess their thinking is that Gringos would use the English site and locals the Peruvian. My Spanish is pretty good and I found the loop hole, as another member said before.
RE: MP.
Yeah man that is true. I got tagged at Saxywoman (or how ever that place is spelled) for the gringo tax even though my novia at the time was Peruvian and we had the kids with us and bought the family ticket. Lame!
I am looking to buy a PlayStation 4 as a present for teacher's son. Does anyone know where I can buy one in Medellin and how much?
Any ideas would help.
I saw a preview for this program recently and thought some might be interested. The upcoming season will include women from Colombia, Brazil, Russia, Ukraine, and the Philippines:
[url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tlc-goes-international-90-day-665840[/url]
Gents,
A while back I noticed someone posted a link to a review of prepagos in Colombia. I've been searching the Colombia threads and can't find it. Anyone remember where it's located.
Thanks,
JS
[QUOTE=The Cane; 1518345]I saw a preview for this program recently and thought some might be interested. The upcoming season will include women from Colombia, Brazil, Russia, Ukraine, and the Philippines:
[url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tlc-goes-international-90-day-665840[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads-up.
I just set it on the DVR.
Should be some good laughs.
Been going to a Medellin doctor in San Diego and I think I am getting the shaft. The shots are now only lasting 2, months, whereas in the US they last 6 and cost less. This guy is adding water or short changing me somehow. Typical Colombian, penny wise, pound foolish about to lose my business for life instead doing the right thing and having my business untli my face falls off.
Can anyone recommend an honest BOTOX doctor in Medellin that will give me what I pay for? Thanks!
[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1520120]Been going to a Medellin doctor in San Diego and I think I am getting the shaft. The shots are now only lasting 2, months, whereas in the US they last 6 and cost less. This guy is adding water or short changing me somehow. Typical Colombian, penny wise, pound foolish about to lose my business for life instead doing the right thing and having my business untli my face falls off.
Can anyone recommend an honest BOTOX doctor in Medellin that will give me what I pay for? Thanks![/QUOTE]I do agree with you about the Penny Wise and Dollar / Pound foolish. I don't know about Botox but he could just have lower end shit? You know what I mean?
Good Luck
[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1520160]I do agree with you about the Penny Wise and Dollar / Pound foolish. I don't know about Botox but he could just have lower end shit? You know what I mean?
Good Luck[/QUOTE]He told me he had something new from Japan that everyone is using it is better than Alergan Botox and costs the same. So I went for it and t lasted less.
I said 'let's switch back to the Alergan. ' Guess what? It suddenly costs more.
He's telling me "Oh the muscles in your forhead are really strong, I've never seen anything like it". Yet when I get the shots in the US my forehead muscles are suddenly different and the stuff lasts 6 months.
This country wonders why it is imersed in poverty and why other countries refuse to open shop here and do business with Colombians. Sad but true.
Colombia Creed: "I would rather rip you off now and make an extra 5mil pesos once today, than do the right thing and have you as a repeat customer who will give me referrals and I make exponentially more for years."
One in the hand is worth 2 in the Bush, penny wise pound foolish all at a whole new level.
I will be going through this process during the next month and will report back what I find out when all is completed. I have friends that have gone through the process and most have fared well and some have not.
The first step is to have the girl contact the US embassy in Bogota. She will be given dates to chose from that are approximately one month from now. Then she has to fly to Bogota to interview for the Visa. Over 90% of the time she will receive an answer then and there. I was told, by the Embassy in Bogota, that all tourist visas are good for 10 years. If accepted she will have the necessary forms mailed to her house in a few weeks.
The most important thing that they are looking for is that she has a good reason to return to Colombia ie. A good job, a stable family environment and / or kids, etc.
I have been told recently that the acceptance rate is higher that ever right now. We shall see what happens.
New member here. Met a chica in Cartagena last summer but she was denied a tourist visa to Canada for lack of travel experience and unsufficient worthy properties or something like that. Would like to try again this Autumn. What are the best advices you guys out there have?
Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=Socker; 1527289]Nevertheless I will give you my insight regarding our hobby. For the most part I'm an open book and I talk openly about my travels. I have lost friends, I have friends who don't want to see photos or hear about my exploits and then a few that get a kick out of my life style. I would say 20% of my male friends don't keep in touch anymore. 60% of my friends do not want to hear about my travels and 20% are very interested. So that's my experience and I'm blue collar w / a varied bunch of friends.
I find it hard not to talk about it. Whenever possible I will challenge women w / my lifestyle and I will justify every aspect of it.
Respectful mongering is a very positive life style. There are millions upon millions of poor women and men who benefit from sex tourist and all are not sex workers. These benefits keep these poor people alive, out of the gutter, and enable them to have a chance of a better life.[/QUOTE]I agree that this should be in the General Info section yet you commented on it here without moving it to General Info. I am going to make a habit of moving my comments on things like this to the General Info section.
I like your 20/60/20 model which is probably somewhat similar for me. As far as telling American women about this hobby I would advice you to refrain from this or at worst don't talk about it much. Women will respect you less and it won't help your chances of getting laid with them. I have a friend of mine who tells women that he sees 2-3 girls every trip and he never talks about money involvement with them. This is probably a safe vantage point.
The majority of money being spent on prostitution in Colombia is by local Colombians. Only a very, very small percentage comes from foreigners. I am going to elaborate more on this with some statistics, from my perspective, that very few men who come to Colombia can see. I am going to estimate that at least 75%+ of the above average looking girls in the under average barrios will accept money for sex in their lives. Here is the part that most men can't see. Of this 75% at least 80-90% will only do it for a short amount of time or with a limited amount of guys. Most will never see a mp or stripclub. For most Colombian girls prostitution is quick fix to a desperate money situation. For others, a life of prostitution becomes a life for a lazy person and it reinforces laziness. Most of these girls have difficulty returning to normal jobs after they have established this routine for a while. Once they hang around for over a few months this lifestyle is filled with all sorts of problems and bad habits. Even the extra money that could be saved gets wasted on things that they don't need. I would advice you guys to not feel bad for them or guilty though. This is their choice. Hopefully you can be one of the better guys who they meet while they are doing this.
When I repeat with these girls I tell them my attitude regarding this. Surprisingly all of these girls respect my perspective and see me as someone who cares. I tell them that the girls that have the best lives are the girls who do this infrequently or only with a limited number of guys which is the truth IMO. Some of these girls take my advice and feel better about their lives after they reduce their exposure to this lifestyle and I receive the residual of great sex, respect, etc from them afterward. IMO this is the best win-win for all involved. To each their own and good luck to all.
I hope this sheds some light on a very complicated and misunderstood culture. VJ
[QUOTE=Concarne; 1527647]One joint is mot the end of the world but more than one and you are asking for trouble. The dealer told me NO NO NO drugs are not legal in Colombia! Not even consumo but cops will look the other way in some situations ie. Like one joint. The rest you hear about legalized in BS.
Be safe.[/QUOTE]How many times does this have to be talked about on here? Small amounts of drugs are legal Colombia. There are plenty of articles discussing this on the internet and I have posted some on this site. Just google "drugs legal Colombia".
Artisttyp, you are not serious about taking the word of a drug dealer over the infinite amount of information on the web. I am going to be here for 5 of the next 7 months. Next time I walk by the police station I will stop in and talk with them about this so we can clear this up once and for all.
[quote=vegas jeff; 1527492]i agree that this should be in the general info section yet you commented on it here without moving it to general info. i am going to make a habit of moving my comments on things like this to the general info section.
i like your 20/60/20 model which is probably somewhat similar for me. as far as telling american women about this hobby i would advice you to refrain from this or at worst don't talk about it much. women will respect you less and it won't help your chances of getting laid with them. i have a friend of mine who tells women that he sees 2-3 girls every trip and he never talks about money involvement with them. this is probably a safe vantage point.
the majority of money being spent on prostitution in colombia is by local colombians. only a very, very small percentage comes from foreigners. i am going to elaborate more on this with some statistics, from my perspective, that very few men who come to colombia can see. i am going to estimate that at least 75%+ of the above average looking girls in the under average barrios will accept money for sex in their lives. here is the part that most men can't see. of this 75% at least 80-90% will only do it for a short amount of time or with a limited amount of guys. most will never see a mp or stripclub. for most colombian girls prostitution is quick fix to a desperate money situation. for others, a life of prostitution becomes a life for a lazy person and it reinforces laziness. most of these girls have difficulty returning to normal jobs after they have established this routine for a while. once they hang around for over a few months this lifestyle is filled with all sorts of problems and bad habits. even the extra money that could be saved gets wasted on things that they don't need. i would advice you guys to not feel bad for them or guilty though. this is their choice. hopefully you can be one of the better guys who they meet while they are doing this.
when i repeat with these girls i tell them my attitude regarding this. surprisingly all of these girls respect my perspective and see me as someone who cares. i tell them that the girls that have the best lives are the girls who do this infrequently or only with a limited number of guys which is the truth imo. some of these girls take my advice and feel better about their lives after they reduce their exposure to this lifestyle and i receive the residual of great sex, respect, etc from them afterward. imo this is the best win-win for all involved. to each their own and good luck to all.
i hope this sheds some light on a very complicated and misunderstood culture. vj[/quote]
thanks for getting the general discussion in the right place bro. to respond to things regarding my world. speaking frankly to people in general women or men about prostitution is the only way change will take place. that's my rational, people in the us are living in a bubble and their only source of information is the media. the media is half truth and half propaganda and is directing the public in a decietful direction. big media wants to sell merchandise and steer public opinion and they do it well.
here as you know it is not legal for a man or a woman to pay for sexual favors. it is however legal to trick men into thinking they can have sex in a rip off strip club. sexually tricking men is legal here in the land of the free.
another example of the hypocrital us stance on sex is porn.
my city rents out a place called the armory to kink. com. the armory takes up a full city block and kink. com is a company that produces x rated videos and the like. the owner of kink. com pays actors to fuck and suck, whip and bind each other and sell xxx cd's, probably stream it out from it's web site as well. xxx made right in the middle of my city for money, and the city collects the rent.
they are having bought and paid for orgies galore but a simple lonely guy cannot buy some intimacy w a women.
how fucked up is this? it's extremely fucked up. no media coverage on that.
jose in colombia takes a bus to the casa and spends a small amout of his paycheck. his biological needs are taken care of and he relaxes at home w / his family.
joe in the usa gets his paycheck and goes out looking to get laid. spends 50% or more of his pay, maybe drives drunk bar hopping, maybe ends up in jail.
this happens hundreds if not thousands of time per day. joe is the guy who i want to help. the fucking hypocrital us government could give a shit about joe. from my life experience i see women as the main source of this hypocrisy. i don't want it to be like this but i can't deny my own objective observations.
also bro, the way things are going it is going to get worse for men in the usa. enuff said.
on the chicas for hire. i am always supportive. in the sack i'm a demanding romantic and they earn their dough w / me. that said i have much respect for working girls all over the world, not just colombia. they have made my life now in my latter years very nice, too nice. i'm am now wasting too much time on the hobby as i am doing right now. but i don't want to stop.
i don't feel sorry for any of them, colombiana, filipina, mexicana, etc. (as you said, you can be one of the better guys) i treat them w / respect.
a few months back i asked a question here on isg, medellin reports about advice on helping chicas invest their hooker money and no one responded.
not one smart guy here was willing to take a couple of minutes to give me advice.
i don't understand the banking and investment process in colombia or any other country except my own. but as you said these chicas have no clue as to saving or protecting their income. i'm sure there is government taxation issues, banking requirements, different savings vehicles for the ladies to take advantage of but don't know how to help them in this most important aspect of their lives..
i asked the pros on the medellin board and not a peep. so i don't know what to tell my amigas about saving for their future's out of this business. i think they deserve help in this regard if they want it.
so maybe you can tell me a little about how the girls can save (20%) their money thru the colombian banking system and what the requirements are. i wonder what the savings interest rates are in colombia. i'll try goggle.
oh well, shit happens right? .
cheers bro
[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff;1527886]Artisttyp, you are not serious about taking the word of a drug dealer over the infinite amount of information on the web.[/QUOTE]I absolutely do. I was out there for two weeks doing my thing with the locals. What happens in real life trumps all written laws. When the cops came you better believe people put out their joints. It was just like NYC in the 70's / 80's. It wasn't legal but cops looked the other way "if" you know how to play the game. Considering the entire centro area is a big drug den someone smoking a joint isn't the end of the world.
Sure walk into a police station and ask. That should be interesting.
Do you just read information on the web or do you actually 420 out in the park? Have you been in the park when the cops suddenly come through on motorcycles?
[quote=socker; 1528660]joe in the usa gets his paycheck and goes out looking to get laid. spends 50% or more of his pay, maybe drives drunk bar hopping, maybe ends up in jail.
this happens hundreds if not thousands of time per day. joe is the guy who i want to help. the fucking hypocrital us government could give a shit about joe. from my life experience i see women as the main source of this hypocrisy. i don't want it to be like this but i can't deny my own objective observations.
i don't understand the banking and investment process in colombia or any other country except my own. but as you said these chicas have no clue as to saving or protecting their income. i'm sure there is government taxation issues, banking requirements, different savings vehicles for the ladies to take advantage of but don't know how to help them in this most important aspect of their lives.
i asked the pros on the medellin board and not a peep. so i don't know what to tell my amigas about saving for their future's out of this business. i think they deserve help in this regard if they want it.
so maybe you can tell me a little about how the girls can save (20%) their money thru the colombian banking system and what the requirements are. i wonder what the savings interest rates are in colombia. i'll try goggle.
oh well, shit happens right? .
cheers bro[/quote]if you want to help joe just tell him about your experiences as a monger and tell him to stop wasting his time in american strip joints.
you probably didn't get a response to your question about banking because experienced mongers know that 99.9999% of working girls in colombia won't follow your advise if it is handed to them on a silver platter so they didn't want to waste their time, maybe i'm wrong but i don't think so.
banking in colombia is very similar to the usa with the exception that their is nothing like fdic, your money is not insured, if the bank goes tits up you are screwed. a girl can open up a savings account and once she has a few bucks she can buy something equivalent to c.d.'s and earn about 4.5%.
colombians, men or women are "yes" people, they don't like to argue or disagree so you will get many girls who will listen to your pitch and agree with what you are saying but at the end of the day the money outside of rent and food will burn a hole in their pocket until it is spent on shoes, makeup etc. i'm not criticizing them just telling it like it is. at the same time there are exceptions to every rule and i know a couple of girls that save money but they are far and few between.
[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1527886]How many times does this have to be talked about on here? Small amounts of drugs are legal Colombia. There are plenty of articles discussing this on the internet and I have posted some on this site. Just google "drugs legal Colombia".
Artisttyp, you are not serious about taking the word of a drug dealer over the infinite amount of information on the web. I am going to be here for 5 of the next 7 months. Next time I walk by the police station I will stop in and talk with them about this so we can clear this up once and for all.[/QUOTE]IMNSHO. It really doesn't matter legal or not. This is Colombia. You won't get a straight answer anyway and if you do, are you really going to chance that it holds up in a "pinch"? Pun intended.
I know 1 foreigner personally and I know of 3 others who are currently in the hoosegow for drug related something or other. All 4 say they were set up by the cops, one says he could have paid out but didn't have the money. Yes larger quantities were probably involved. Planted? Even 3 are lying and only 1 of the 4 was a set up, I am not taking that chance.
Do what you want. My bottom line, have the stuff delivered by from a trusted friend / source, don't carry in the street and do it in the comfort of your own home. This advice was given to me years ago by US law enforcement family member. I know we are talking Colombia but it is just not worth the risk of doing time, even a little, missing a flight back home or losing your job.
If you do have tickets for Pink Floyd under the stars in Santa Elena make your girl or someone else carry. You buy. Or buy it there.
Play it safe is my motto, regardless of the "law".
[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1528687]If you want to help Joe just tell him about your experiences as a monger and tell him to stop wasting his time in American strip joints.
You probably didn't get a response to your question about banking because experienced mongers know that 99. 9999% of working girls in Colombia won't follow your advise if it is handed to them on a silver platter so they didn't want to waste their time, maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so.
Banking in Colombia is very similar to the USA with the exception that their is nothing like FDIC, your money is not insured, if the bank goes tits up you are screwed. A girl can open up a savings account and once she has a few bucks she can buy something equivalent to C. D. 's and earn about 4. 5.
Colombians, men or women are "yes" people, they don't like to argue or disagree so you will get many girls who will listen to your pitch and agree with what you are saying but at the end of the day the money outside of rent and food will burn a hole in their pocket until it is spent on shoes, makeup etc. I'm not criticizing them just telling it like it is. At the same time there are exceptions to every rule and I know a couple of girls that save money but they are far and few between.[/QUOTE]So if they have an all cash income they don't need to pay income tax in Colombia?
I agree most girls cannot and will not save money but if I care about their well being I will tell them what I think they should do and why. And by the way I am not pitching them I am just a temporary friend w / a big mouth. Some people keep things like this to themselves and others will offer advice, I'm in the latter group.
One last thing, the reason there was no response to my original request is because most mongers only care about themselves and their buddies. They are hardened just like the pussy they sometimes complain about.
I think your input has been really helpful, I appreciate it bro.
So no income taxes in Colombia?
Is the Manizalles action any good? How many casas, strip clubs, Freelancers, etc are there?
[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1528687]If you want to help Joe just tell him about your experiences as a monger and tell him to stop wasting his time in American strip joints.
You probably didn't get a response to your question about banking because experienced mongers know that 99. 9999% of working girls in Colombia won't follow your advise if it is handed to them on a silver platter so they didn't want to waste their time, maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so...[/QUOTE]I am going to comment on a few of the recent posts here.
First, I want to apologize to Artisttyp. I was commenting on someone else's post yet I put your name there? I don't know what I was thinking. You are correct, in that, this is Colombia. If they want to bother you they can. I couldn't be happier with the police situation in Medellin specifically. In my eyes they don't even exist. It is just like with the girls. Once you get the right mindset you will be ready to deal with the police if a problem arises. I would like to find out the official law though.
I agree with the post above with regards to girls and money. One thing I look for in my regular girls is financial discipline. I have found a strong correlation between no financial discipline and nagging. Don't nag them either. You won't be able to change these girl's financial habits.
As far as changing the habits of Americans I say good luck. I have not motivated one person to visit me that had not already traveled abroad. You can open the door to the prison and they won't walk out. They are content so I just leave them be. The first question I ask now is,"Have you traveled abroad?" If they say no I end it right there.
I have found that Colombians are "yes" people, to some extent, but I think that foreigners ask leading questions. I think the quality of the answer you get will depend mostly on the way you ask the question along with the IQ of the person that you ask.
VJ
[QUOTE=Socker; 1528741]So if they have an all cash income they don't need to pay income tax in Colombia?
I agree most girls cannot and will not save money but if I care about their well being I will tell them what I think they should do and why. And by the way I am not pitching them I am just a temporary friend w / a big mouth. Some people keep things like this to themselves and others will offer advice, I'm in the latter group.
One last thing, the reason there was no response to my original request is because most mongers only care about themselves and their buddies. They are hardened just like the pussy they sometimes complain about.
I think your input has been really helpful, I appreciate it bro.
So no income taxes in Colombia?
Is the Manizalles action any good? How many casas, strip clubs, Freelancers, etc are there?[/QUOTE]Socker,
I hope you don't think I was advising against you trying to give the girls some financial advise or even life lessons, I wasn't. I am just saying that it has been my experience that though they will sit there and show concern and interest in the subject at the end of the day they aren't going to heed the advise, the majority of Colombians for generations have lived hand to mouth their entire lives, it is embedded in their culture.
Yes, there is income tax in Colombia, I never really thought of the possible implications of a girl that earns all her money in cash dumping it in a bank account before answering your question. There are many ways around it just like in America but I'm not getting into it on a public forum.
Manizales is a great city and I make it my part time home, soon to be full time. It is home to the most colleges and universities per capita than any city in Colombia which means college girls by the shit ton, if you are young enough and have the game to pull non pros it is heaven on earth, I'm too old for that.
As far as casas and strip clubs there are four or five clubs in el centro but it is dangerous as hell at night, only travel from one to another by taxi, no exceptions. It makes el centro in Medellin look like Disneyland. I have only found one casa in nine years of going there and it closed but it was a gold mine and a half, the mamason had an "inventory" that was off the chain. I don't really monger in Manizales anymore as I have a novia and a few special "friends" and prefer not to crap where I sleep if you know what I mean. Pereira is a great city and a good place to monger but again, don't walk around at night.
[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1528757]Socker,
I hope you don't think I was advising against you trying to give the girls some financial advise or even life lessons, I wasn't. I am just saying that it has been my experience that though they will sit there and show concern and interest in the subject at the end of the day they aren't going to heed the advise, the majority of Colombians for generations have lived hand to mouth their entire lives, it is embedded in their culture.
Yes, there is income tax in Colombia, I never really thought of the possible implications of a girl that earns all her money in cash dumping it in a bank account before answering your question. There are many ways around it just like in America but I'm not getting into it on a public forum.
Manizales is a great city and I make it my part time home, soon to be full time. It is home to the most colleges and universities per capita than any city in Colombia which means college girls by the shit ton, if you are young enough and have the game to pull non pros it is heaven on earth, I'm too old for that.
As far as casas and strip clubs there are four or five clubs in el centro but it is dangerous as hell at night, only travel from one to another by taxi, no exceptions. It makes el centro in Medellin look like Disneyland. I have only found one casa in nine years of going there and it closed but it was a gold mine and a half, the mamason had an "inventory" that was off the chain. I don't really monger in Manizales anymore as I have a novia and a few special "friends" and prefer not to crap where I sleep if you know what I mean. Pereira is a great city and a good place to monger but again, don't walk around at night.[/QUOTE]
Jaja, thanks for the info. I have a buddy that also likes Manizalles and lives there a significant amount of time, someday I'll check it out.
In the states you can't put a significant amount of money in the bank and watch it grow legally. By significant I mean adding funds over a 5 year period that will accumulate.
If I don't have the answer to the government requirements on income tax laws then I can't exactly encourage a hooker to save her money. Oh well, life goes on.
Independent Contractor I guess would do it. What would the tax liability be from a cash business/independent contractor. Does a independent contractor need a license? If prostitution is legal then they should have a right to declare income. Someone should about know this.
Thanks Manizalles, great info.
[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1528750]First, I want to apologize to Artisttyp. I was commenting on someone else's post yet I put your name there?
VJ[/QUOTE]Don't sweat it. Actually those were my words that I placed inside the other quotation marks by mistake.
Either way I think it is a good idea to be low key whatever you choose to do.
Bien Pueda
[QUOTE=Socker; 1528785]In the states you can't put a significant amount of money in the bank and watch it grow legally. By significant I mean adding funds over a 5 year period that will accumulate.
If I don't have the answer to the government requirements on income tax laws then I can't exactly encourage a hooker to save her money. Oh well, life goes on.
Independent Contractor I guess would do it. What would the tax liability be from a cash business / independent contractor. Does a independent contractor need a license? If prostitution is legal then they should have a right to declare income. Someone should about know this.
Thanks Manizalles, great info.[/QUOTE][url]Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Colombia[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Colombia[/url]
[url]http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/extortion-rate-colombia-billion[/url]
The systems that we have in America are nothing like in Colombia and none of this applies. The tax system starts at the upper class level and none of these girls are affected by it. The taxes are put into goods people buy and sell everyday along with the commodity businesses and import / export businesses. Extortion is also becoming more of an issue in Colombia over the past few years.
The far majority of the working girls you meet come from poor barrios. There is a severe financial strain in the poor neighborhoods of Colombia. The government is happy to watch these girls make their money and go quietly. The government and upper class will get their hands on it at some point anyway.
Also, Prostitution is not exactly legal. Every time you take a working girl to your room you are breaking the law. But don't worry because there are no laws in Colombia. Discretion and respect are all that matters. Just like with the small quantities of drugs law. In Colombia every possible law is being broken in an extreme way and at a high rate.
[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1528830][url]Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Colombia[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Colombia[/url]
[url]http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/extortion-rate-colombia-billion[/url]
The systems that we have in America are nothing like in Colombia and none of this applies. The tax system starts at the upper class level and none of these girls are affected by it. The taxes are put into goods people buy and sell everyday along with the commodity businesses and import / export businesses. Extortion is also becoming more of an issue in Colombia over the past few years.
The far majority of the working girls you meet come from poor barrios. There is a severe financial strain in the poor neighborhoods of Colombia. The government is happy to watch these girls make their money and go quietly. The government and upper class will get their hands on it at some point anyway.
Also, Prostitution is not exactly legal. Every time you take a working girl to your room you are breaking the law. But don't worry because there are no laws in Colombia. Discretion and respect are all that matters. Just like with the small quantities of drugs law. In Colombia every possible law is being broken in an extreme way and at a high rate.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jeff, I should have done that myself but my brain is pretty scrambled. Appreciate you walking me thru this.
The income rates look similar to the US tax rates but I don't understand what this means, UTV[5].
Income Range in UVT[5] Tax Rate.
0 to 1, 090[3] ..... 0%
1, 090 to 1, 700 .....19%
1, 700 to 4, 100 ..... 28%
4, 100 .....33%
I assume it is the rate of income and the % of tax that should be paid.
So if the chica's making 600, 000p per week that adds up to 2, 4000, 000p a month. She could declare a quarter of that and be on the radar of the goveenment and be able to save 20% of her income.
Does that make sense for the system down there?
I think this would be good advice taken or not.
WShat do you think?
"Normal" prositution seems to be legal.
[url]http://prostitution.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000772[/url]#Colombia.
[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1528830][url]Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Colombia[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Colombia[/url]
[url]http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/extortion-rate-colombia-billion[/url]
The systems that we have in America are nothing like in Colombia and none of this applies. The tax system starts at the upper class level and none of these girls are affected by it. The taxes are put into goods people buy and sell everyday along with the commodity businesses and import / export businesses. Extortion is also becoming more of an issue in Colombia over the past few years.
The far majority of the working girls you meet come from poor barrios. There is a severe financial strain in the poor neighborhoods of Colombia. The government is happy to watch these girls make their money and go quietly. The government and upper class will get their hands on it at some point anyway.
Also, Prostitution is not exactly legal. Every time you take a working girl to your room you are breaking the law. But don't worry because there are no laws in Colombia. Discretion and respect are all that matters. Just like with the small quantities of drugs law. In Colombia every possible law is being broken in an extreme way and at a high rate.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=C Jack Sparrow; 1529342]"Normal" prositution seems to be legal.
[url]http://prostitution.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000772[/url]
#Colombia.[/QUOTE]Yes it is.
I got the tax info too.
Apreciate the info.
I've spent a lot of time in Colombia in the last 5 years, but my Spanish is still malo. I agree it is imperative to speak a decent level of Spanish. For those that have acquired that envious ability, what are the suggestions for the best way to learn to speak decent Paisa?
I've thought about classes at EAFIT or elsewhere, and their are a number of computer programs.
What is the best, amigos?
[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1530088]I've spent a lot of time in Colombia in the last 5 years, but my Spanish is still malo. I agree it is imperative to speak a decent level of Spanish. For those that have acquired that envious ability, what are the suggestions for the best way to learn to speak decent Paisa?
I've thought about classes at EAFIT or elsewhere, and their are a number of computer programs.
What is the best, amigos?[/QUOTE] I've learned over the years that in learning to speak a foreign language, everyone learns differently.
What works well for some, may not necessarily work well for others.
For me personally, the classroom environment just moved way to slow and boring, usually teaching to the lowest common denominator.
One thing for sure is, if you really want to learn a foreign language, you have to make it a priority.
Whether you learn better through books and / or CDs, classroom, tutor, Rosetta Stone, Pimsleur, etc; you most definitely have to practice practice practice.
I remember when I first started visiting Latin America back in the 90's.
I fell in love with the latinas but couldn't speak to them. Frustrating for sure.
I've heard countless gringos say,"oh soon I'm going to learn spanish", and they're still saying it.
You really have to make the real decision to actually do it.
Some guys learn Tour Guide, Phrase book spanish.
I didn't want that to be me.
So I bought a concise guide to spanish grammar (no need to over-complicate at first)(I still remember the name of the book was Easy Learning Spanish Grammar), a verb conjugation book and of course a dictionary, and I practiced and made a fool out of myself for sure, but I learned.
I think you should study and practice every day, even if for only 20 minutes.
You have to keep your mind in it, especially when first starting out.
Find what media works best for you personally in learning a language, then actually jump into it, practice and make it a priority.
[QUOTE=Ricker; 1530292]I've learned over the years that in learning to speak a foreign language, everyone learns differently.
What works well for some, may not necessarily work well for others.
For me personally, the classroom environment just moved way to slow and boring, usually teaching to the lowest common denominator.
One thing for sure is, if you really want to learn a foreign language, you have to make it a priority.
Whether you learn better through books and / or CDs, classroom, tutor, Rosetta Stone, Pimsleur, etc; you most definitely have to practice practice practice.
I remember when I first started visiting Latin America back in the 90's.
I fell in love with the latinas but couldn't speak to them. Frustrating for sure.
I've heard countless gringos say,"oh soon I'm going to learn spanish", and they're still saying it.
You really have to make the real decision to actually do it.
Some guys learn Tour Guide, Phrase book spanish.
I didn't want that to be me.
So I bought a concise guide to spanish grammar (no need to over-complicate at first) I still remember the name of the book was Easy Learning Spanish Grammar) , a verb conjugation book and of course a dictionary, and I practiced and made a fool out of myself for sure, but I learned.
I think you should study and practice every day, even if for only 20 minutes.
You have to keep your mind in it, especially when first starting out.
Find what media works best for you personally in learning a language, then actually jump into it, practice and make it a priority.[/QUOTE]
I have been studying for 3 + years and am still not fluid in conversation and this hurts my confidence. During my time in Med and when I got back home I was a little down because I wasn't laughing and joking it up w / the ladies like I really want to. So I thought this is impossible, I just can't learn, it's too hard. But when I got back I thought, nope, now I'm really going to try and now it is easy for me and every latino I hang w / that I am indeed getting better. The only way to fail is to stop trying. You can take time off periodically (from learning) but soon after you have to restart.
One of the reasons I am a slow learner is that I don't like to impose my bad spanish on spanish speakers. Some enjoy helping and others dread it. Some know how to help and some want to help but have no clue of how to. In Colombia I have found that the locals ARE really good at helping and like it that you are taking an interest in their language and culture. The mansion chicas for the most part would rather you learn before coming down jaja. I don't fault them for this, they are only interested in partying and our money, nothing more.
But they're vibrant and easy to be w / so of course you want to laugh and joke and show them whatever it is you've got that particular day. They are good buddies while you're paying, I love them.
I love the culture of latin America too. The food, the latinas, the dance, the country, the spirit and people in general. You can't enjoy it too much unless you can communicate in spanish.
So my first year of learning was w / a $20 tutor I met once a week at the city library. He was very good and got me started on the right path. Since then I rely on my favorite book, Madrigal's Magic Key to Spanish (w / illustrations by Andy Warhol) pub. 1951. This book has everything in an easy to digest formula. I have it w / me all the time. I highly recommend it for learning casual conversation and more. It is the best book I've ever owned.
Next listen to latin music and TV w / english captions. Force yourself to speak to other spanish speakers in spanish, this is the fast lane to learning. For me I don't want to go thru the hassle (most times) but you have to go thru it to learn. The next conversation will be easier.
The hardest part now is listening and then responding. Jaja, sometimes it will take me 30 seconds to reply a simple yes (si). It can be very embarrassing too, like driving a car w / no reverse. I hate looking stupid but that is part of the process.
I started at 58 and now I'm closing in on 62 so my age doesn't help me but I don't give a shit about how statistically I'm at a disadvantage. I am learning and every week I hear or say something I couldn't a week prior. Learning espanol is probably harder then learning to play the piano so that motivates me too. Will learning spanish elevate me in the eyes of these chicas? Hell no but at least I can laugh at their jokes about me. :)
Ricker is spot on again. You have to make it a priority in your life. After that it's probably like riding a bike.
Here's the book that has really helped me.
[quote=legal tender; 1530088]i've spent a lot of time in colombia in the last 5 years, but my spanish is still malo. i agree it is imperative to speak a decent level of spanish. for those that have acquired that envious ability, what are the suggestions for the best way to learn to speak decent paisa?
i've thought about classes at eafit or elsewhere, and their are a number of computer programs.
what is the best, amigos?[/quote]i don't post much but thought i'd add to this. i studied spanish for many years, tried several methods and what worked best for me was starting with the basics at first, learning the structure of the language itself. my goal was to become fluent. the masc / fem is simple in theory but can trip you up along the way. also the simple verb tenses can be daunting at first but once you have these basic tenses down you can apply them to "most" all other words.
i agree with ricker that classes are very slow. unless you need hand holding or are at the very very beginning are a waste of time. you can learn more on your own. also what he said about making the decision to really do it is so true. you'll only go as far as you put into it and it will take you a couple of years realistically to have some good comfortable basics.
what worked for me in the beginning:
books.
1) english / spanish dictionary, a must.
2) margarita madrigal's key to spanish.
very old book that will teach you the structure of the language. indispensable.
and then later,
3) spanish verbs: ser and estar.
and then later,
4) 5001 spanish verbs, this is a reference guide mostly which will help you advance once you have the basic language down.
5) i also bought some basic workbooks where i would fill in the blanks etc. just for an additional push.
in my opinion the advanced verbs are the hardest grammatical thing to learn. i spoke in the present and past tense only for years until i learned to use the advanced verb tenses, which i still don't understand all of them.
vocabulary.
learn even a word a day. over time your vocabulary will grow. you'll need it. you hear a word and wonder what that is in spanish. look it up, write it down, repeat it in your head. keep this up regularly forever.
comprehension.
the hardest part by far for me is understanding it when spoken to. you'll run across all kinds of accents, dialects and voices that it's overwhelming. i still struggle with this. strangely i find female voices easier to understand. (good thing ).
another tool i used was to listen to songs, watched spanish movies, and read spanish newspapers. songs you can get the words to and follow along while listening. this really helps a lot. movies with subtitles is also good. i learned a lot by watching betty la fea back in the day. no subtitles but the bogota accent is fairly easy to understand and it was fun watching, stupid but fun.
colombians are pretty easy to understand, even the costeņos. spaniards are by far the hardest, for me anyway because of their pronunciation and sheer speed of delivery. mexicans are also hard for me.
imersion.
you got to actually use it. you will offend people. i once told a girl in argentina, my cute argentine co-worker, that i wanted to sleep with her tomorrow all the while thinking i was just asking her to hang out tomorrow. i would have never thought that that simple phrase would ever mean that. i was there for work and this didn't go over well. i couldn't figure out why she gave me the stink eye (the bad kind) and avoided me over the next few days until i left. when i got back i asked a native spanish speaker and then realized. embarrassing.
5 years of this and if someone who doesn't speak spanish heard me speak they would think i am fluent, but i still struggle. mostly with the comprehension. it's been 10 years now and i don't study that much anymore, stopped the big effort 5 years ago but still pick away at it, and i leave the dictionary at home but i still write things down and ask people how to speak certain things.
i have a friend, use to go to ctg together all the time and he pretty much only speaks in the present tense."yo voy a la playa ayer"."i went to the beach yesterday". totally wrong but the girls get it and they understand. even the travel agent there could comprehend him and no jokes / giggles about his lingo so you don't have to be a master, just depends on what your goals are.
here's a tip though, some hindsight. when you start learning some and you are anxious to use it but you're at home and you don't really need it. you'll be tempted to start ordering your fast food in spanish, or chat with the gardner or the cute latina chick cashier at the whatever business. go ahead but what i've found is that this annoys them. they'll play along and be polite but use sparingly. better to ask them if you can use spanish with them for practice. just my experience.
there's also the slang. be careful. it varies from dialect to country etc. some slang and curse words can really get you into trouble, or really embarrassed even if you mean it as an off the cuff comment.
in short, there's no one method for everyone, and no single method. you'll need to be able to read, speak, hear, and know what you saying and hearing. in my opinion one should use multiple methods at once for a more rounded understanding.
i'm not an expert by far, but have managed to be able to learn quite a bit and in common everyday conversation i can get by easily anywhere.
I took two years in High School, have spoken in work situations and in travel for the last thirty years, and just finished two semesters of University level Spanish, and here's the secret: Bing Translator. Look- pick up Rosetta Stone or go pick up a class at your local community college for the basics, then start using it. There's all kinds of things that will make your Spanish better, but the only thing that will make you fluent is immersion and long-time use. You have to move past the point that you're translating from S to E in your head and actually think (and dream) in Spanish. I'm just getting to where I can do it sometimes. Bolonga and all the others have some great tips and I"the say they'll all help you Polish your delivery, but here's the best one- fall in love with a spanish speaking girl. I don't mean screw around, I mean fall in love. Once it's important enough, you'll figure it out.
So Socker PM's me this.
[QUOTE=Socker]Maybe you can follow all of my post and clarify what I said. That would be very helpful to all the board members here.
I am honored.[/QUOTE]Socker, your post wasn't there as I was writing mine up and it's straight out of my head, not your post. We were writing ours up at the same time but you posted yours first. I did read yours though and it seems like we have similar paths in learning, which in my mind means it's probably good advice.
So, Socker, maybe you can not insult people who are lending something positive to the board.