General Info

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1274320][url]http://www.jetblue.com/deals/50off/[/url]

"Save 50% off select flights to the Caribbean, Book by April 29, 2012"

There are two promo codes that can be used, depending on your travel dates. I found a round-trip, non-stop fare of $228 (all taxes and fees included in this price) , JFK to SDQ in May. 2012. JFK to Puerto Plata I saw a fare of $330. There are also flights from Boston, Orlando and from JFK to Santiago.

All Jetblue seats are the same size, recaro leather, more legroom in the first four rows and the emergency exit rows, for an additional $25 each way. You can choose a seat in the second row, usually the two adjacent seat are empty, so you can lay across three seats for the flight. Smooth flights to DR, when I have taken Jetblue. If you pay the extra $25 to sit in the first four rows (extra legroom seats) , there is separate line to get to the metal detectors and the TSA checkpoint, a shorter line at JFK).[/QUOTE]Hey,

I just want to say thanks. Your good information just saved me some big bucks. I just made the deadline in time, maybe I need to read the Gen Info forum more than the other DR story telling forum.

Again, Thank You

How many pesos does Cialias go for again in the pharmacies? Just trying to get an idea so that I know how much I want to spend on them.

A box 24 of la pela costs about 1200 to 1400 pacso.

The box of 4 C pills cost a little more.

I drink White hennersy and it works for me.

My friend swears by the Domincan rum.

The blue dimaonds are the only ones I see for sell on the street

[QUOTE=Kc Talent; 1274532]Hey,

I just want to say thanks. Your good information just saved me some big bucks. I just made the deadline in time, maybe I need to read the Gen Info forum more than the other DR story telling forum.

Again, Thank You[/QUOTE]Awesome sale!

[QUOTE=Polyorchid; 1274427]My business is interent-based and I'll also need a reliable and cost-efficient way to phone the the US 5-6 times daily. I know Skype may be a possibility but I prefer to be able to do it from my cell (again, not relying on Skype). I will be bringing down my iPhone, which is already jailbroke. Or, if need be, I will buy a phone in DR.

Poly[/QUOTE]I use a phone purchased in the DR. The storre clerk said it cost the same to call locally or the US; 22 cents a minute. Not sure if he is BS me or not. I call the US once a day for an average of 20 minutes and two 500 peso cards last more them a week. SIM cards still work 6+ months later but unused minutes are lost after a couple of months. It's easy to call the US with a Clero phone. Just deal 1 the area code and the number. And the coverage is good in Sosua.

[QUOTE=Scotch; 1274818]A box 24 of la pela costs about 1200 to 1400 pacso.

The box of 4 C pills cost a little more.

I drink White hennersy and it works for me.

My friend swears by the Domincan rum.

The blue dimaonds are the only ones I see for sell on the street[/QUOTE]The problem (for me) with La Pela is that they do not split well with a pill splitter. I do not need the entire pill. When I try to split them they just get all crushed up. Don't have that problem with Cialis.

As a side note, you probably shouldn't trust any pills being peddled on the street.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1274904]The problem (for me) with La Pela is that they do not split well with a pill splitter. I do not need the entire pill. When I try to split them they just get all crushed up. Don't have that problem with Cialis.

As a side note, you probably shouldn't trust any pills being peddled on the street.[/QUOTE]Name brand Cialis made by Lilly is around 600-700 pesos for two pills ($8-$10US per pill). Bring a few zantac or prilosec in case you get heartburn from any of these pills. Last time I took lapela I got horrible heartburn (acid reflux). I try to stick with the name brand Lilly Cialis.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1274911]Name brand Cialis made by Lilly is around 600-700 pesos for two pills ($8-$10US per pill). Bring a few zantac or prilosec in case you get heartburn from any of these pills. Last time I took lapela I got horrible heartburn (acid reflux). I try to stick with the name brand Lilly Cialis.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jao!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1274783]How many pesos does Cialias go for again in the pharmacies? Just trying to get an idea so that I know how much I want to spend on them.[/QUOTE]I'm not real sure of the cost of Cialis but I buy the Lapela, box of 24 for under 1500 pesos from a phamacy only. I only need a half of pill once every 3-4 day but take a whole pill on day one and there after it is on, once I get pass the real bad head ache the first moruning after taking a half or whole pill. I get this side affect with both the cialis and the lapela. Does this happen to anyone else?

[QUOTE=Kc Talent;1274532]I just want to say thanks.[/QUOTE]De Nada. It was a good sale, Jetblue had a flight on May 16, JFK non-stop to SDQ, arriving around midnight for $95US, one way fare, all taxes and fees included in that rate.

I paid $115US for a one way fare on a different date, non-stop JFK to SDQ.

Video showing the construction and completion of the new toll road in Samana (el Boulevard Turístico del Atlántico) has some scenic views; [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMsVu5NptRg[/url]

Animation showing what the new Coral highway will look like, from La Romana past Bayahibe to Punta Cana. Seems the journey to Punta Cana from Santo Domingo will be much faster; [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XcGQwAOl5w&feature=fvst[/url]

I will travel on the new road in Samana in a few weeks and also probably see parts of the new Coral highway (scheduled to open this summer).

In Samana (las terrenas) I will probably stay at the Hotel Alisei (some rooms with kitchens) ; [url]http://aliseihotelspa.com/[/url] Or the La Dolce Vita Residence; [url]www.ladolcevitaresidence.com/[/url] (rooms with kitchens).

Traveling with an older family member.

[QUOTE=Kc Talent;1275215]I'm not real sure of the cost of Cialis but I buy the Lapela, box of 24 for under 1500 pesos from a phamacy only. I only need a half of pill once every 3-4 day but take a whole pill on day one and there after it is on[/QUOTE]Yeah, that will probably work also. I didn't know what I was doing when I first started using ED meds (don't have a prescription), and my first time ever using them was in the DR. I was mixing Viagra with Cialis not truly understanding that each of them work differently (V for for about 4-5hrs; C for a few days) and got to the point where I could not bust a nut, LOL.

But I guess taking a 20mg of either C or La Pela on day 1 and then not touching the stuff for another 3-4 days will probably be enough. Although, the recommended dosage is 10mg (max 20mg) per day.

[url]http://erectile-dysfunction.emedtv.com/cialis/cialis-dosage.html[/url]

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1274904]The problem (for me) with La Pela is that they do not split well with a pill splitter. I do not need the entire pill. When I try to split them they just get all crushed up. Don't have that problem with Cialis.

As a side note, you probably shouldn't trust any pills being peddled on the street.[/QUOTE]Generally when a pill do not have a stripe in the middle the dosage is not homogeneous and the pill is not recommended to be splitted, one half can be of a very low dosage compared to the other.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1275542]Generally when a pill do not have a stripe in the middle the dosage is not homogeneous and the pill is not recommended to be splitted, one half can be of a very low dosage compared to the other.[/QUOTE]Whoa never knew that. Thanks. I thought the ridge is to help you press correctly. Also many medication have oblong shapes these days. Not only round.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1275828]Whoa never knew that. Thanks. I thought the ridge is to help you press correctly. Also many medication have oblong shapes these days. Not only round.[/QUOTE]I think it was supposed to be a joke. Just think about how pills are manufactured in large batches.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1275849]I think it was supposed to be a joke. Just think about how pills are manufactured in large batches.[/QUOTE]Oh no, this time no joke. I have worked in the pharmaceutical industry. I learned that in the manufacturing process pill dosages can be homogeneously distributed, if a pill has a stripe that eases the pill to be cut in half then dosage on each half are similar, if not, the pill is not intended to be cut.

Can the bags of Ice you buy from the store be trusted? Or does it still work the same as "don't drink the water"? Wanted to have ice for my liquor, but will pass if it is just going to mess me up internally.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1277719]Can the bags of Ice you buy from the store be trusted? Or does it still work the same as "don't drink the water"? Wanted to have ice for my liquor, but will pass if it is just going to mess me up internally.[/QUOTE]I have never gotten sick in DR. But generally ice machines use filters and / or purifiers for the water before it is made into ice.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1277728]I have never gotten sick in DR. But generally ice machines use filters and / or purifiers for the water before it is made into ice.[/QUOTE]Thanks bruah!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1277719]Can the bags of Ice you buy from the store be trusted? Or does it still work the same as "don't drink the water"? Wanted to have ice for my liquor, but will pass if it is just going to mess me up internally.[/QUOTE]I use ice in my bar drinks and never had any problems. I never brought a bag of ice from a store but I'm sure the bars use the same distributors. I also never had issues from the restaurants or chicken shacks food.

What happened to the Sosua thread? It is Friday night / Sat. Morning 2 am ET and the Sosua thread is gone!

SS

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1282877]What happened to the Sosua thread? It is Friday night / Sat. Morning 2 am ET and the Sosua thread is gone!

SS[/QUOTE]For whatever fucking reason, it turned into the Classico Chica thread. Jackson, WTF?

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1282877]What happened to the Sosua thread? It is Friday night / Sat. Morning 2 am ET and the Sosua thread is gone!

SS[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to the Bangkok thread. It's gone?

Is it possible to get the automatic editing software to stop changing zIDz (ignore the z's) to I'd? Am I the only one irritated and sometimes confused by this unnecessary change?

[QUOTE=Titmouse;1284749]Is it possible to get the automatic editing software to stop changing zIDz (ignore the z's) to I'd? Am I the only one irritated and sometimes confused by this unnecessary change?[/QUOTE]Yes, it is annoying. It seems like the site uses some kind of cheapware automatic grammar correction that has many bugs. I can't say I blame Jackson, and it probably does eliminate many errors.

There is a way round it. Post your post, then proofread it, and you still have about 10 minutes in which you can edit the post and make the necessary changes. This way you can override the automatic grammar correction.

For example, if you are asked for an ID card, just look at this sentence and you will see ID displayed correctly.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1284758]Yes, it is annoying. It seems like the site uses some kind of cheapware automatic grammar correction that has many bugs. I can't say I blame Jackson, and it probably does eliminate many errors.

There is a way round it. Post your post, then proofread it, and you still have about 10 minutes in which you can edit the post and make the necessary changes. This way you can override the automatic grammar correction.

For example, if you are asked for an I'd card, just look at this sentence and you will see I'd displayed correctly.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip, and I will certainly use it if I need to make reference to an ID. The problem is that I most often see it in posts by others, and I can't make them edit their posts. Nor would I want to. It would be nice if the software didn't make this erroneous "correction" in the first place. Ah, well.

I will be on my first trip ever of this kind (adult vacation) to DR for few days in July. I will be traveling from US.

I have some question to experts to help me out there.

(I tried searching but get lost with so many threads)

1. How do I carry money ($) to DR. I will be staying in AI resort and have to pay them money.

2. How to carry any kind of medication (vitamin C, V and some over the counter tablets)

Can I put them in check in luggage?

3. I am planning to use ATT cell service and will be staying in POP.

How is coverage there?

4. I will have to make international call other than US. I plan to use Vonage.

This Vonage will have a US number, so I will use ATT to call the Vonage US number and the connect to other destination.

Any one has used this?

5. When you call from DR, is it possible to trace where you are calling from?

Thanks in advance for your help!

[QUOTE=Anupk; 1287988]I will be on my first trip ever of this kind (adult vacation) to DR for few days in July. I will be traveling from US.

Congratulations and celebrations.

I have some question to experts to help me out there.

(I tried searching but get lost with so many threads)

1. How do I carry money ($) to DR. I will be staying in AI resort and have to pay them money.

Use money belt for larger cash amounts. Always lock extra cash in a safety deposit box. AI. What a shame, you still have time to cancel it and re-book flight and girl friendly hotel or condo or villa separately.

2. How to carry any kind of medication (vitamin C, V and some over the counter tablets)

Take them in carry on in an original box with a prescription if you have got one.

Can I put them in check in luggage?

Yes, but why? Is it 20 kilo of vitamins?

3. I am planning to use ATT cell service and will be staying in POP.

How is coverage there?

Check with ATT.

4. I will have to make international call other than US. I plan to use Vonage.

This Vonage will have a US number, so I will use ATT to call the Vonage US number and the connect to other destination.

Any one has used this?

No, I am using local Orange number.

5. When you call from DR, is it possible to trace where you are calling from?

No doubt. Your calls are traceable.

Thanks in advance for your help![/QUOTE]This is your lucky day. God save the Queen!

[QUOTE=Anupk; 1287988]I will be on my first trip ever of this kind (adult vacation) to DR for few days in July. I will be traveling from US.

I have some question to experts to help me out there.

(I tried searching but get lost with so many threads)

1. How do I carry money ($) to DR. I will be staying in AI resort and have to pay them money.

2. How to carry any kind of medication (vitamin C, V and some over the counter tablets)

Can I put them in check in luggage?

3. I am planning to use ATT cell service and will be staying in POP.

How is coverage there?

4. I will have to make international call other than US. I plan to use Vonage.

This Vonage will have a US number, so I will use ATT to call the Vonage US number and the connect to other destination.

Any one has used this?

5. When you call from DR, is it possible to trace where you are calling from?

Thanks in advance for your help![/QUOTE]Be aware that international roaming can be very expensive, so find out ahead of time how much it costs. Also make sure that if you have any kind of data plan on your phone that U-turn off the Internet, otherwise it may run up a huge bill in the background.

For money, you can carry cash in your pocket (best to use a wallet) , or you can take an Automatic Teller Machine card and withdraw cash in the DR, (but tell your bank ahead of the trip) , or you can pay by credit card at the hotel. If carrying cash to change in the DR best to carry a convertible currency like dollar, pound, euro. Do NOT change cash at the exchange booth INSIDE the airport, as they will rip you off for 10% or more.

[QUOTE=Anupk; 1287988]I will be on my first trip ever of this kind (adult vacation) to DR for few days in July. I will be traveling from US.

I have some question to experts to help me out there.

(I tried searching but get lost with so many threads)

1. How do I carry money ($) to DR. I will be staying in AI resort and have to pay them money.

2. How to carry any kind of medication (vitamin C, V and some over the counter tablets)

Can I put them in check in luggage?

3. I am planning to use ATT cell service and will be staying in POP.

How is coverage there?

4. I will have to make international call other than US. I plan to use Vonage.

This Vonage will have a US number, so I will use ATT to call the Vonage US number and the connect to other destination.

Any one has used this?

5. When you call from DR, is it possible to trace where you are calling from?

Thanks in advance for your help![/QUOTE]Magic jack type devices have been used to make calls from the DR, with no trace that the call is originating from the DR. I know one ISG member who has more info on this.

You can get data plans with orange or claro, (daily, weekly or monthly plans are available). You may have to buy a modem from Claro, to access their data network from your computer.

Depending how long you will be staying at the all inclusive hotel, you may want to bring some $1 dollar bills, which you can use to tip waiters, waitresses or bartenders at the All Inclusive Hotel. A $1 or $2 dollar tip will be appreciated (many Europeans don't tip). Everything is usually included when staying at the all inclusive hotel so no need to walk around with large sums of cash. Every AI hotel I have stayed had safes in the rooms, you can leave your cash, credit cards, passport etc, in the room safe and have a small amount of $1 dollar bills when you go to the hotel's restaurants or bars (tipping is not required, but even a very small tip is usually appreciated). Tip the maid as well.

Vitamins, aspirin, tylenol cold, benadryl tablets and spray or cream benadryl for insect bites, insect repellant, sun block, I pack in a toiletry bag which goes into my checked luggage.

[QUOTE=Anupk; 1287988]I will be on my first trip ever of this kind (adult vacation) to DR for few days in July. I will be traveling from US.

I have some question to experts to help me out there.

(I tried searching but get lost with so many threads)

1. How do I carry money ($) to DR. I will be staying in AI resort and have to pay them money.[/QUOTE]I find the best way is to buy an initial amount of Pesos that you will need for the first couple of days ahead of time before you leave your country. The bank (at least in Canada) always keeps a reserve of Dominican currency nowadays. After that I just use the ATM's in Dominican. The exchange rate is decent. The only thing you got to watch is if the ATM is out of money. Apparently some keep your card till the bank is open the next day. Never happened to me, but apparently it can. I avoid street vendors that claim exchange. Don't like to carry large amounts of currency on me. This worked for me in other countries as well.

Anyone have some info in APTS. In SDQ? I wouldn't mind staying with the guy I stayed with last year but I feel he over charged me and the bed was horrible.

I will be staying a month in October to November. I looking for something under 400 USD with wifi and a safe.

Peace BBL

[QUOTE=Anupk;1287988]I will be staying in AI resort and have to pay them money.[/QUOTE]This is your first mistake. 99% of all-inclusives WILL NOT allow your new "amigas" through the gates of the resort unless you buy them a bracelet, which can be $100 USD / day.

I strongly suggest you stay at a "chica friendly" hotel, or you will be miserable.

What town are you staying in, and I am sure we can make a proper reco for lodging?

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1288510]This is your first mistake. 99% of all-inclusives WILL NOT allow your new "amigas" through the gates of the resort unless you buy them a bracelet, which can be $100 USD / day.

I strongly suggest you stay at a "chica friendly" hotel, or you will be miserable.

What town are you staying in, and I am sure we can make a proper reco for lodging?[/QUOTE]He might be staying at a sex AI.

Day pass at casa marina all inclusive hotel in sosua, years ago was about $40-$45. Years ago I had a room at the barcelo capella all inclusive hotel in juan dolio with a wingman and the barcelo charged about $50US for an amiga to check in with us and stay overnight (she ate and drank all she wanted, no extra money had to be spent feeding her). All inclusive hotels are usually safe, secure and quiet, with all the food and drink you can consume included in the price.

Another option when staying at an all inclusive hotel is to rent a second room for sex. Years ago Rocky's in Sosua used to rent out rooms for under $20US. Use the second room for sex with pros and then return to the all inclusive hotel to eat and drink all you want, where your valuables in your room are safe from the pros. Tradewinds apartments in sosua rented from Marco at Rocky's use to go for around $35US per night, two guys (staying at an AI) taking turns using the apartment, cost would be about $18US per night per guy.

I have stayed at numerous all inclusive hotels in Dominican republic and mongered and not been miserable.

If you have a rental car, you can have sex in the car.

[QUOTE=Chert1;1288306]I find the best way is to buy an initial amount of Pesos that you will need for the first couple of days ahead of time before you leave your country. The bank (at least in Canada) always keeps a reserve of Dominican currency nowadays. After that I just use the ATM's in Dominican. The exchange rate is decent. The only thing you got to watch is if the ATM is out of money. Apparently some keep your card till the bank is open the next day. Never happened to me, but apparently it can. I avoid street vendors that claim exchange. Don't like to carry large amounts of currency on me. This worked for me in other countries as well.[/QUOTE]Disagree, change as much money as you can in your home country and travel with as little euros or dollars as possible. That's what the hotel safes are for. Citibank constantly gives the best exchange rates for me to buy currencies. .393 today

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1288520]Disagree, change as much money as you can in your home country and travel with as little euros or dollars as possible. That's what the hotel safes are for. Citibank constantly gives the best exchange rates for me to buy currencies. .393 today[/QUOTE]I didn't say to travel with euros or dollars. I said to use Dominican ATM's. That means travel with as little cash as possible and use bank machines there. I don't trust hotel safes and I heard too many stories of shake downs by either con artists or local police / military to be carrying large amounts of cash in any currency on me, including Pesos. Call me paranoid about not trusting hotel safes, but there are incidents that happened, which involved theft from hotel safes. I generally only take out enough for a couple of days and store some of that in hotel safes. This way I don't have a lot on me at any time, don't have to worry about losing a lot if my safe gets robbed and have enough for a couple TLN's if I feel so inclined

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce;1288520]Disagree, change as much money as you can in your home country and travel with as little euros or dollars as possible. That's what the hotel safes are for. Citibank constantly gives the best exchange rates for me to buy currencies. .393 today[/QUOTE]Well, disagree. Each time I check exchange in my home country, there was a 8% markup fee taken.

Plastic is cheaper. My ATM card takes 2% markup and refund the ATM fee. I called my credit cards company and one of them was only taking 1% markup.

[QUOTE=Chert1;1288523]I didn't say to travel with euros or dollars. I said to use Dominican ATM's. That means travel with as little cash as possible and use bank machines there. I don't trust hotel safes and I heard too many stories of shake downs by either con artists or local police / military to be carrying large amounts of cash in any currency on me, including Pesos. Call me paranoid about not trusting hotel safes, but there are incidents that happened, which involved theft from hotel safes. I generally only take out enough for a couple of days and store some of that in hotel safes. This way I don't have a lot on me at any time, don't have to worry about losing a lot if my safe gets robbed and have enough for a couple TLN's if I feel so inclined[/QUOTE]There is always something that CAN happen, but really what is the probability? Although I have never read about an incident of someone's belongings missing from a hotel safe that is not to say that it has never or will never happen. But how often does it happen? I have seen stories about the ATMs taking more from the accounts than the person withdrew from the machine. I have seen stories of ATMs not dispensing money but taking it out of the person's account. I have seen stories of the ATMs keeping peoples' cards. Maybe someone will rob you on the way to the ATM while you have your card with you and then take you to the machine at gunpoint and make you withdraw everything. Who is to say? Nothing is ever going to be 100%. I guess I have been lucky all of these years not to have experienced any of these adversities. I definitely would not linger on "if" too much though. There is more than one way to skin a cat but if if was a fifth then we would all be fucked up.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1288721]There is always something that CAN happen, but really what is the probability? Although I have never read about an incident of someone's belongings missing from a hotel safe that is not to say that it has never or will never happen. But how often does it happen? I have seen stories about the ATMs taking more from the accounts than the person withdrew from the machine. I have seen stories of ATMs not dispensing money but taking it out of the person's account. I have seen stories of the ATMs keeping peoples' cards. Maybe someone will rob you on the way to the ATM while you have your card with you and then take you to the machine at gunpoint and make you withdraw everything. Who is to say? Nothing is ever going to be 100%. I guess I have been lucky all of these years not to have experienced any of these adversities. I definitely would not linger on "if" too much though. There is more than one way to skin a cat but if if was a fifth then we would all be fucked up.[/QUOTE]True enough. Can't be living in fear all the time. I was just giving an opinion, and it always worked for me. Each to their own I guess.

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa; 1288545]Well, disagree. Each time I check exchange in my home country, there was a 8% markup fee taken.

Plastic is cheaper. My ATM card takes 2% markup and refund the ATM fee. I called my credit cards company and one of them was only taking 1% markup.[/QUOTE]Who do you bank with? I bank with citi. The most I have paid is a flat $5fee for currency conversion at the low of "Bid" v "Ask." However, ATMs are a fvckin nightmare. $2-5 foreign transaction fee just for sticking it in, plus standard fees, low conversion rate minus 2-3%, limits of as low as 3,500 pesos and risk of card revoked if not notified some banks of traveling abroad. Not to mention, the double swiping and extra items on bill. Somebody in Brazil owes citi visa not me about $2,500.

I budget what im going to spend plus 10% liqour factor. I put most in a safe and only cary what I want to spend that day, an emergency visa for gifts and now the new passcard in a clip. I generally stay at chain hotels and get a cheap motel for tricking as I hate constantly having to biych proof a room. I have never heard of a safe in a chain hotel broken into. I have seen dudes leave it open. Hell, some Marriott's exchange at 3-5%.

Only card i plan to use now is Amex paying for lodging and never an ATM.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1288516]If you have a rental car, you can have sex in the car.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I am too old for that, and my chiropractor bill will far exceed the $20 savings.

Why not rent a modern clean apartment that does not keep track of your activity, or stay in a hotel that does not charge for guests?

You left that scenario out.

PS: Your numbers are WAY off, Rocky's now charges $25 for a room without A/C, and the cost of a day pass in an AI is way more than $45, more like $60 for a day pass, and $75 for overnight. Tradewinds apartments are $50/night in High season. @Jao - So please do me a favor, when you have the irresistible urge to go correct experienced members on this board again, please do your homework with up-to-date research.

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1288510]This is your first mistake. 99% of all-inclusives WILL NOT allow your new "amigas" through the gates of the resort unless you buy them a bracelet, which can be $100 USD / day.

I strongly suggest you stay at a "chica friendly" hotel, or you will be miserable.

What town are you staying in, and I am sure we can make a proper reco for lodging?[/QUOTE]We have been over and over this issue so many times on this board, not to mention on other boards.

If you have a cheap hotel and flight package and you want a conventional sun-and-beach holiday with two or three outings for sex to spice things up, then an AI can be a great choice. There are some real bargains available at present in the quiet season.

If you want to spend your holiday mongering, fucking lots of chicas and socializing with other mongers, then staying in an AI is a mistake. You will end up wasting money on booking short-time places to fuck, on transport, and over-overpaying because you are not with guys who will show you the ropes and tell you how much you should be paying.

If you are already committed to an AI and cannot back out, then chalk it up to experience and do the right thing next time after reading up on the message boards. You can still have a great time, but what you save on your hotel / flight package you will lose elsewhere unless you only have a few sex adventures. It also depends where your AI is. If in Sosua, at least you won't have to pay for taxis, but it is a lousy hotel.

I don't want to advise on which method to use to have cash available in the DR as different experienced mongers all seem stuck on their own system and nothing can sway them. But for those who favor using bank cards, like myself, I would suggest avoid using ATMs but draw your cash inside the bank at the teller counter.

Disadvantages:

- You will need your original passport as I'd so head straight back to your hotel afterwards to lock up your passport.

- There may be a queue (line) if you go at peak periods.

Advantages:

- You won't suffer from an ATM malfunction. These are a lot more common in the DR than in the first world (eats your card, debits your account without issuing any cash, etc, etc)

- Safer to draw the cash and put it away in an inside pocket inside the bank than out on the street.

- You can ask for whatever denominations you want. Small bills and coins can be hard to find in the DR otherwise. If I draw 15, 000 pesos, I usually take 2000 in 200s. 1000 in 100s. 1000 in 50s, and 1000 in coins and the rest as it comes. That way I am never out of change which can mean overpaying.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1288790]I don't want to advise on which method to use to have cash available in the DR as different experienced mongers all seem stuck on their own system and nothing can sway them. But for those who favor using bank cards, like myself, I would suggest avoid using ATMs but draw your cash inside the bank at the teller counter.

Disadvantages:

- You will need your original passport as I'd so head straight back to your hotel afterwards to lock up your passport.[/QUOTE]I always carry a US Passport Card when I travel to the DR, and use it as a cedula. Banks and Western Union have accepted it in place of a US Passport book. Only one Claro stand refused to accept it, so I went to another that did. Lock the passport book in the safe, and carry the passport card.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1288721]There is always something that CAN happen, but really what is the probability? Although I have never read about an incident of someone's belongings missing from a hotel safe that is not to say that it has never or will never happen. But how often does it happen?[/QUOTE]I have not seen that reported on this board. Banco Popular is reliable for ATM machines, but you will get best value for money always withdrawing the maximum allowed, usually 10, 000 pesos, each time. Even so, it is best to use the ATM machines during banking hours, just in case something goes wrong. Always make arrangements with your home bank to use the ATM card before you go.

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1288756]Sorry, I am too old for that, and my chiropractor bill will far exceed the $20 savings.

Why not rent a modern clean apartment that does not keep track of your activity, or stay in a hotel that does not charge for guests?

You left that scenario out.

PS: Your numbers are WAY off, Rocky's now charges $25 for a room without A / C, and the cost of a day pass in an AI is way more than $45, more like $60 for a day pass, and $75 for overnight. Tradewinds apartments are $50 / night in High season. atJao. So please do me a favor, when you have the irresistible urge to go correct experienced members on this board again, please do your homework with up-to-date research.[/QUOTE]Maybe you can learn to Read, you have posted before that you smoke a lot (correct me if I am wrong) , so maybe you should lay off, or is it for glaucoma and thus your inability to read correctly what I wrote. I said years ago for all my prices. I have also posted numerous times that I have not been in sosua in years.

Casa Marina Beach and Reef (located in Sosua close to all the action) for June 2012 is $99US per night for two people in a room (for a 7 night trip) , for three people in a room the price is $139, apply promo code travel5 on orbitz and these prices will be reduced by 5. Book a 7 night air and hotel package on orbitz during low season (September) and use promo code travel100 to knock $100 off the package price, the per night rate for two people in the room will be $64 ($32 per person) for the casa marina all inclusive in Sosua. Two guys doing this in off season will each pay $32 per night and share a room at an AI, with all you can eat food and all you can drink beverages (alcohol and non-alcohol). Each guy can then rent a room at Rocky's, for, you say $25 per night and they now have two rooms (one for fucking pros, the other safe and secure with food and drinks included) for $32 + $25 = $57 per day. How much is the New Garden, around $60-$70 per night with only breakfast included in that price? Anyone can check these prices on Orbitz, [url]http://www.orbitz.com/travel-deals/orbitz-coupon-promo-code/[/url]

The original poster said he is staying at an AI, I don't know if it is a normal AI or a sex AI. The guy has made up his mind to stay at an AI. I am not here to tell him not to stay at an AI (I did not tell him to stay at an AI, he made that decision on his own). How many times have you stayed at a normal AI in the DR? Seems you only visit Sosua, so maybe you know the current rates, for the calypso hotel in Sosua and the rates for the cabaña that currently exists in Sosua.

You say Tradewinds is $50 during high season, it is currently not high season. Two guys staying at an AI in Sosua during high season, not having to buy food out in the street, all they can eat and drink at the AI and splitting the condo for an extra $25US per person to use with pros and having their valuables safely in the AI room, is one way to monger in the DR (its not the only way to monger). Casa Marina is not an expensive AI in Sosua. Not all AIs are the same price. When I have the time I will have someone in DR call various all inclusive hotels and ask them the prices for day passes and for extra guests in the rooms overnight (renting out a second hotel room, or splitting the cost of a condo or using a cabana are ways to avoid paying for day passes or over night stays at the AI).

My last stay at an AI in Juan Dolio, seemed to me there might be 4 pros staying there, two light skin, big titty sisters from santiago and a few others. Some guys score for free with other female tourists staying at the AI.

Fortunately or Unfortunately not all mongers are like you. Some guys aspire to more than pumpkin head and pumpkin head two, who you claim used to service you in some hair salon in Sosua. Getting serviced in a Sosua hair salon is not much better than getting serviced in a rental car (at least in my rental car I know no one has been sitting in the seats shooting loads in the previous 24 hours, a cheapy BJ hair salon in Sosua, who knows whats on the towels that are used to wipe you off or that you sit on).

Some people travel with family or friends who may not monger and thus staying at an AI is a way to squeeze in a vacation where one person can hang out at the AI and the other person can go out and monger.

And your statement saying the guy will be miserable in an AI is based on what?

[QUOTE=Professor 1;1288791]I always carry a US Passport Card when I travel to the DR, and use it as a cedula. Banks and Western Union have accepted it in place of a US Passport book. Only one Claro stand refused to accept it, so I went to another that did. Lock the passport book in the safe, and carry the passport card.[/QUOTE]Thanks Prof, that is a new one to me. (As you know I am not a US citizen). Strange that I have never seen such a thing mentioned on any of the boards or hard mongers speak of it, but it sounds a good idea.

You guys that don't have them Pacsafe has backpacks and other products that help keep your shit more secure than those fucked up letter box safes that places like Sea Breeze and the Medellin Mansion used to have or maybe still do. The Milockie device you can put on an existing safe to keep someone with a master key from looting your shit. I carry the Backpack the hip pack and the Milockie device with me on all trips. Use a bicycle cable to lock my suitcases together usually to a bed. Haven't got anything stolen to date but I had two sisters who stole anything I ever had as a kid so I am used to hiding shit. LOL.

Nothing is theft proof but gives me a piece of mind even in a rental car locking my shit in the Pacsafe backpack and locking it to the frame of the car.

[url]http://pacsafe.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.milockie.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1288806]you have posted before that you smoke a lot (correct me if I am wrong) , so maybe you should lay off, or is it for glaucoma and thus your inability to read correctly what I wrote.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Buscemi; 1227792]DO NOT even have this conversation, you will get shwag sprinkled with pizza oregeno and stand a VERY good chance of being set up and extorted + locked up. I enjoy a toke@home But in DR ZERO tolerance laws prevail for The Gringo.

Please watch Midnight Express and stick with Rum and Chicas. I am quite serious, you were warned![/QUOTE]You didn't post that you smoke a lot, I am wrong in what I wrote.

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1288756]Sorry, I am too old for that, and my chiropractor bill will far exceed the $20 savings.

Why not rent a modern clean apartment that does not keep track of your activity, or stay in a hotel that does not charge for guests?

You left that scenario out.

PS: Your numbers are WAY off, Rocky's now charges $25 for a room without A / C, and the cost of a day pass in an AI is way more than $45, more like $60 for a day pass, and $75 for overnight. Tradewinds apartments are $50 / night in High season. atJao. So please do me a favor, when you have the irresistible urge to go correct experienced members on this board again, please do your homework with up-to-date research.[/QUOTE]For six months of the year, May 1 to October 31, Tradewinds has the following rates:

Pricing starts at $225 US per week when booking 2 weeks at a time with additional nights at $35.

$250 US per week for one week stays with additional nights $40.

$200 US per week for stays of 4 weeks or more with additional nights at $30.

There is a $30 per week cleaning fee on all weekly and monthly stays.

Above prices include all taxes and POP airport pick up.

DAILY RATE: $45 US per night (less than one week)

[url]http://www.rockysbar.com/condos.htm[/url]

I said years ago the rate I paid was $35 per night. In low season currently for a one night rental the rate is $45. For a one week rental in low season the rate is $250, which works out to about $35. 71US per night (cleaning fee adds about $4. 28US per night for a one week or more rental, however free airport pickup will save you some money) , you say my numbers are WAY off.

I liked the tradewinds apartments (and dealing with Marco at Rockys was always a pleasure) good pool that I used to use at 5am with chicas from the bars, neighbors were tolerant (unlike the palms up the street from the tradewinds).

PS, I have no interest in returning to Sosua and I don't know where the original poster is staying (he said north coast) , so I gave prices I paid years ago (to use as an example) and I clearly stated the prices were from years ago or what the prices used to be. Checking some of the current prices on the internet, the prices have not increased very much over the prices I paid years ago (two guys splitting the cost of a tradewinds condo to use for sex, is about $20US per day for a one week rental during low season, in my prior post I said about $18US).

For those of you with Bank of America, you can use Scotia Bank ATMs for free. I also have a citi account, I used to fund it just before travel, I now mostly use it for small local charges and withdrawals. Citi's fees shot up and they charge you even at their own ATMs in some countries. Even with the current fees, It still beats using your main bankcards or credit cards and run the risk of getting your account compromised.

This past trip I went to Western U and exchanged funds, took a daily allotment and left the rest of the pesos at the hotel.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1288811]You guys that don't have them Pacsafe has backpacks and other products that help keep your shit more secure than those fucked up letter box safes that places like Sea Breeze and the Medellin Mansion used to have or maybe still do. The Milockie device you can put on an existing safe to keep someone with a master key from looting your shit. I carry the Backpack the hip pack and the Milockie device with me on all trips. Use a bicycle cable to lock my suitcases together usually to a bed. Haven't got anything stolen to date but I had two sisters who stole anything I ever had as a kid so I am used to hiding shit. LOL.

Nothing is theft proof but gives me a piece of mind even in a rental car locking my shit in the Pacsafe backpack and locking it to the frame of the car.

[url]http://pacsafe.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.milockie.com/[/url][/QUOTE]The Milockie looks interesting. Might have to snag one for myself. Here is a YouTube video on just how it works:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPNjvJdaSLs[/url]

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1288811]You guys that don't have them Pacsafe has backpacks and other products that help keep your shit more secure than those fucked up letter box safes

Nothing is theft proof but gives me a piece of mind even in a rental car locking my shit in the Pacsafe backpack and locking it to the frame of the car.

[url]http://pacsafe.com/[/url][/QUOTE]LOL. Someone mentioned it on the Sosua thread a couple of years ago and I bought one ASAP. And when I'm in the car down there I do the same shit. I'm always in a hatchback so I attach it in the trunk to the hinge where the backseat meets the body.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1288970]LOL. Someone mentioned it on the Sosua thread a couple of years ago and I bought one ASAP. And when I'm in the car down there I do the same shit. I'm always in a hatchback so I attach it in the trunk to the hinge where the backseat meets the body.[/QUOTE]I relized I left out the fact I cable it in the trunk to the frame, on another note Ebay all that shit is alot cheaper. The fannie pack is priceless for locking my stuff to a beach chair and cooler while I am in the water so the looters don't get my shit.

@Savepros that Milockie device works great on any safe you never know what a big piece of crap it might be at a place you have never stayed.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1288979]I relized I left out the fact I cable it in the trunk to the frame, on another note Ebay all that shit is alot cheaper. The fannie pack is priceless for locking my stuff to a beach chair and cooler while I am in the water so the looters don't get my shit.

atSavepros that Milockie device works great on any safe you never know what a big piece of crap it might be at a place you have never stayed.[/QUOTE]Which fanny pack is it that you purchased?

Also will the Milockie work with the safes in Blackbeards and New Garden?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1288809]Thanks Prof, that is a new one to me. (As you know I am not a US citizen). Strange that I have never seen such a thing mentioned on any of the boards or hard mongers speak of it, but it sounds a good idea.[/QUOTE]The US Passport Card has been mentioned on this board in the past. That's how I learned about it. For US citizens, it is well worth the money as a piece of ID that does not contain your address for everyone to see. I use it in lieu of a driver's license.

[QUOTE=Ctripps; 1289017]Which fanny pack is it that you purchased?

Also will the Milockie work with the safes in Blackbeards and New Garden?[/QUOTE]Milockie will fit on all of them, the fannie pack is the Pacsafe Stashsafe 100 it locks to your body if you need to with a cable.

Thank you guys for all your feed back. Really appreciate it.

And sorry, I should have explained more, but when I said AI it includes sex. I think I still have learn all the terms and terminologies.

Thanks again

So, I am at the centro de internet on Churchill near the plaza lama, it's a comfortable on with air and full print services. This chica (pretty good looking) shows up with her daughter and her Dominican boyfriend.

She gets on and Skype's her foreign BF. She speaks pretty good English and goes through the process "baby of course I'm alone look around only people using the computers" with her DR boyfriend sitting in the kiosk right next to her. A lot of "baby I love you, I miss you, I need to take Ashley shopping send money baby" Her kid might be his (she's pretty light skinned).

She gets the WU and signs off, walks off hand in hand with the DR BF. What a scam. Wow.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1291002]She gets the WU and signs off, walks off hand in hand with the DR BF. What a scam. Wow.[/QUOTE]LOL! Nice story! But believers will always be believers! Rationality and Bertrand Russell does not work from most of humanity. Look at the whole religion business. For crying out loud.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1291002]She gets the WU and signs off, walks off hand in hand with the DR BF. What a scam. Wow.[/QUOTE]So you saw it with your own eyes. What I wouldn't give to see a tape of that.

Depending on how you roll it is all a game. If you want serious GFE then a couple of bucks every now and then may work out. Sport fuckers would not understand how guys who go for GFE roll. Let me say GFE sex is way better then your average sport fuck. I personaly do both. It takes more work but often that is enjoyable. So what if they have a DR boy friend. As long as when you are there it is your pussy. It does not matter. When dealing with pros think of often there pussy's are being used. It is 6 of one half dozen of another. Maybe the WU guy lives in sex prison USA and this chica rocks his world. Whois getting over a 50 plus guy banging a 20 something girl for 50 bucks or the chica. At the end of the day they both are getting what they want.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1291373]So you saw it with your own eyes. What I wouldn't give to see a tape of that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1291002]So, I am at the centro de internet on Churchill near the plaza lama, it's a comfortable on with air and full print services. This chica (pretty good looking) shows up with her daughter and her Dominican boyfriend.

She gets on and Skype's her foreign BF. She speaks pretty good English and goes through the process "baby of course I'm alone look around only people using the computers" with her DR boyfriend sitting in the kiosk right next to her. A lot of "baby I love you, I miss you, I need to take Ashley shopping send money baby" Her kid might be his (she's pretty light skinned).

She gets the WU and signs off, walks off hand in hand with the DR BF. What a scam. Wow.[/QUOTE]HOLY SHIT! Now that's DR hustling 101 at its best. I honestly would've shaken that girls hand for such a performance. I'm SERIOUS!

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1291421]HOLY SHIT! Now that's DR hustling 101 at its best. I honestly would've shaken that girls hand for such a performance. I'm SERIOUS![/QUOTE]Dominican girls and the internet are a match made in heaven.

I was tempted, after she left to try and log back on the Skype session and break it to this guy. I was trying to figure out some way to let him know, but afterwards I thought to each his own. But it is a damn business with these girls and business is good.

I was in the supermarket yesterday, and just realized there is a WU in every single big supermarket. As well as free standing ones all over the place.

I posted a while ago that a WU ripped me off for $100 when I was changing money once. I had to go to the main office to try and get it back (to no avail) , really very nice offices. They are a money making machine, collecting their fees from all the foreign boyfriend transactions.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1291002]So, I am at the centro de internet on Churchill near the plaza lama, it's a comfortable on with air and full print services. This chica (pretty good looking) shows up with her daughter and her Dominican boyfriend.

She gets on and Skype's her foreign BF. She speaks pretty good English and goes through the process "baby of course I'm alone look around only people using the computers" with her DR boyfriend sitting in the kiosk right next to her. A lot of "baby I love you, I miss you, I need to take Ashley shopping send money baby" Her kid might be his (she's pretty light skinned).

She gets the WU and signs off, walks off hand in hand with the DR BF. What a scam. Wow.[/QUOTE]I do not know why anybody would be surprised?

It happens all over the world. This is nothing compared to having a dick in her pussy and talking to her sponsor. Many of us mongers have experienced this.

Let us talk about what the guy gets.

1. He gets the satisfaction knowing there is a pretty little young girl waiting for his call, his visit, his support etc. So every day he is a smile on his face thinking about her. So the depression of not getting anywhere with american girls is off his mind. One less guy taking anti depression medicine.

Should he be worrying every day about what this girl is doing in his absence? By experience he knows that even steady girlfriends cheat sometimes. Unless you stalk her everyday it is difficult to know what she is doing.

Talking personally when I was young I had a real beautifull young GF here is USA. We were together almost all nights except when she went to visit her parents out in the country. Sometimes I will go with her and sometimes not. The times when I did not not go with her she was having sex with her old BF. How Do I know? One fine day she told me she is exposed to STD and asked me to get tested. Her gynaecologist tested her and it came positive and he told her to advice all her sex partners to get tested as it is usual in USA. I got tested but got negative and I wanted to know who gave it to her? Then she opened up and that killed our relationship. The moral is you cannot trust anybody.

2. This guy is not breaking his bank in order to support a girl in other country. Even one date in USA will cost him much more.

A dinner in a nice restaurent cost min $100 with wine. Add maybe a mivie or club and easily more than $200.

3. It gives him an excuse to take vacations and also satisfaction knowing there is a girl and good sex and company waiting for him. Also it is cheap compared to taking GF from USA.

I took many girlfriends on cruises and trips and the cost is exorbitant although the girls chipped in.

If he asks for our advice, the best advice should be be carefull that she does not take him to the cleaners. Second advice is do not even worry about who she is with in his absence. I know it is hard to do.

Otherwise let him be.

About not breaking the bank:

I'm trying to find the article, but there was some guy who had a girlfriend from an eastern block country and sent her all his money and then went on vacation to be with her. He was drained of all his money, and when he was broke she left him there. He had to borrow money from the American consulate to get a ticket back home.

These girls will bleed you dry if you let them. But it really is not my problem, I've just never seen the scam up close and personal like that.

I've screwed other girls who had their Novios paying for everything and I knew it. But they never ran the scam with me inside them.

I also know of another working girl, who has the American guy, but she really loves the guy (he is the father of her kid) , but he only sends a little help for the kid and never visits. She gets teary eyed when I talk to her about him. She's a good person, just caught up in this life. What I can't get is basically her family is pimping her out. Her mother could work (she must be late 40's or early 50's) , her brother is capable of earning but they let her go out night after night while they stay home.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1291946]I do not know why anybody would be surprised?

It happens all over the world. This is nothing compared to having a dick in her pussy and talking to her sponsor. Many of us mongers have experienced this.

Let us talk about what the guy gets.

1. He gets the satisfaction knowing there is a pretty little young girl waiting for his call, his visit, his support etc. So every day he is a smile on his face thinking about her. So the depression of not getting anywhere with american girls is off his mind. One less guy taking anti depression medicine.

Should he be worrying every day about what this girl is doing in his absence? By experience he knows that even steady girlfriends cheat sometimes. Unless you stalk her everyday it is difficult to know what she is doing.

Talking personally when I was young I had a real beautifull young GF here is USA. We were together almost all nights except when she went to visit her parents out in the country. Sometimes I will go with her and sometimes not. The times when I did not not go with her she was having sex with her old BF. How Do I know? One fine day she told me she is exposed to STD and asked me to get tested. Her gynaecologist tested her and it came positive and he told her to advice all her sex partners to get tested as it is usual in USA. I got tested but got negative and I wanted to know who gave it to her? Then she opened up and that killed our relationship. The moral is you cannot trust anybody.

2. This guy is not breaking his bank in order to support a girl in other country. Even one date in USA will cost him much more.

A dinner in a nice restaurent cost min $100 with wine. Add maybe a mivie or club and easily more than $200.

3. It gives him an excuse to take vacations and also satisfaction knowing there is a girl and good sex and company waiting for him. Also it is cheap compared to taking GF from USA.

I took many girlfriends on cruises and trips and the cost is exorbitant although the girls chipped in.

If he asks for our advice, the best advice should be be carefull that she does not take him to the cleaners. Second advice is do not even worry about who she is with in his absence. I know it is hard to do.

Otherwise let him be.[/QUOTE]

Again, I need some advice from experts here, please?

This is my fits trip to DR / Any Spanish speaking country.

I am trying to pick some Spanish, but I need some words for mongering. I need the slang's they use in DR and ask some question politely to the girls (not rudely).

1. How do I say " I want to have 2 or 3 pops with you"

2. BBJ.

3. CBG.

4. DFK.

5. DATY.

6, Positions like doggy, cow girl, reverse cow girl.

Any help is appropriated.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1291910]I posted a while ago that a WU ripped me off for $100 when I was changing money once. I had to go to the main office to try and get it back (to no avail) , really very nice offices. They are a money making machine, collecting their fees from all the foreign boyfriend transactions.[/QUOTE]I think that WU makes most of their money from dominicans who live and work abroad sending money home on a regular basis. Peoplecall this remesas here.

[QUOTE=Anupk; 1291974]Again, I need some advice from experts here, please?

This is my fits trip to DR / Any Spanish speaking country.

I am trying to pick some Spanish, but I need some words for mongering. I need the slang's they use in DR and ask some question politely to the girls (not rudely).

1. How do I say " I want to have 2 or 3 pops with you"

2. BBJ.

3. CBG.

4. DFK.

5. DATY.

6, Positions like doggy, cow girl, reverse cow girl.

Any help is appropriated.[/QUOTE]Chupar is the verb to suck, and you can say "chupame sin condóm, por fabor". Another word they use a lot for condom is "preservativo". Another verb for to suck is "mamar". Of course this refers mainly to a baby sucking the mother's milk, but is also used in a sexual context.

Pussy is usually "toto", though you might use "vagina" (pronounced "bag-in-a"). So you can "mamar toto" for DATY.

However, personally I would go easy on approaching a girl (sorry, b****) and discussing "two or three" pops off the bat unless you know that you and she have a good sexual connection and relationship, in which case it will happen naturally. The Spanish would be "me gusteria venir tres veces contigo" (I would like to come 3 times with you).

Ditto with positions: Just let it happen naturally according to how your bodies fit together and what feels good. The same goes for the DFK. A kiss is "beso" and tongue is "la lengua", lips are "los labios", but whether she will want to kiss with tongues depends a lot on the chemistry between you. There is not much point trying to DFK with someone who is not really into it.

It is probably just my point of view that you will get better sex by concentrating more on the mental part of the relationship, the flirtation, the courtship, telling her she is beautiful, intelligent, and all that crap, than by negotiating in terms of physical actions to be itemized and billed independently. Other people may not agree, but I can only say what works for me.

Not sure what CBG means, but I would not ask any of them to perform a Coronary Bypass Graft as their knowledge of anatomy and sterile technique is usually rather basic and it could put you at risk.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1291990]Chupar is the verb to suck, and you can say "chupame sin condóm, por fabor". Another word they use a lot for condom is "preservativo". Another verb for to suck is "mamar". Of course this refers mainly to a baby sucking the mother's milk, but is also used in a sexual context.

Pussy is usually "toto", though you might use "vagina" (pronounced "bag-in-a"). So you can "mamar toto" for DATY.

However, personally I would go easy on approaching a girl (sorry, be*) and discussing "two or three" pops off the bat unless you know that you and she have a good sexual connection and relationship, in which case it will happen naturally. The Spanish would be "me gusteria venir tres veces contigo" (I would like to come 3 times with you).

Ditto with positions: Just let it happen naturally according to how your bodies fit together and what feels good. The same goes for the DFK. A kiss is "beso" and tongue is "la lengua", lips are "los labios", but whether she will want to kiss with tongues depends a lot on the chemistry between you. There is not much point trying to DFK with someone who is not really into it.

It is probably just my point of view that you will get better sex by concentrating more on the mental part of the relationship, the flirtation, the courtship, telling her she is beautiful, intelligent, and all that crap, than by negotiating in terms of physical actions to be itemized and billed independently. Other people may not agree, but I can only say what works for me.

Not sure what CBG means, but I would not ask any of them to perform a Coronary Bypass Graft as their knowledge of anatomy and sterile technique is usually rather basic and it could put you at risk.[/QUOTE]Frannie, wouldn't it be chupaRme sin condoN por faVor?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1291990]Not sure what CBG means, but I would not ask any of them to perform a Coronary Bypass Graft as their knowledge of anatomy and sterile technique is usually rather basic and it could put you at risk.[/QUOTE]LOL.

My typo, it is CBJ.

Thank you very much for your input!

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1291910]I was tempted, after she left to try and log back on the Skype session and break it to this guy. I was trying to figure out some way to let him know, but afterwards I thought to each his own. But it is a damn business with these girls and business is good.

I was in the supermarket yesterday, and just realized there is a WU in every single big supermarket. As well as free standing ones all over the place.

I posted a while ago that a WU ripped me off for $100 when I was changing money once. I had to go to the main office to try and get it back (to no avail) , really very nice offices. They are a money making machine, collecting their fees from all the foreign boyfriend transactions.[/QUOTE]I have a half dozen or so female Dominicans that I consider real, true friends, some are putas, some are not. I have had sex with some of them, others I have known for years and never slept with. Every SINGLE ONE of them has at least one WU boyfriend, not some of them, ALL of them have at least one, one girl has four. I have heard these girls on the phone with these guys and it is scary how well these girls can act (read lie). It used to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off listening to them, now I just laugh. Apartments paid for, furnishings, appliances, you name it. One of these girls lives in Azua in a beautiful house and car paid for and owns a nightclub all paid for by her Canadian boyfriend / husband that flies in once every six weeks for 7-10 days. She used to work at BB's and if I posted her photo I would bet half of you mofos have banged her.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1292014]Frannie, wouldn't it be chupaRme sin condoN por faVor?[/QUOTE]1. No, chupame. Second person singular imperative form.

2. Yes, condoN, with the accent on the second syllable. It was correct originally, but the famous ISG spell checker mangled the sentence and I missed that after overriding the corrections.

3. Yes, faVor, but I wrote it with a 'b' to show the way Dominicans tend to pronounce it. Many Dominicans write it "fabor", though technically that is wrong.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1292014]Frannie, wouldn't it be chupaRme sin condoN por faVor?[/QUOTE]

Chupelo me pene por favor.

Suck my penis please.

O mami tu chupas bien.

Oh yea you suck good.

Mas duro.

Harder.

Quiero besarte todo tu cuerpo.

I want to kiss you all over your body.

Tu eres muy sexy.

You are very sexy.

Si me pene es mas poqueno del mundo.

Yes my penis is the smallest in the world. LOL

[QUOTE=Frannie;1291990]Chupar is the verb to suck, and you can say "chupame sin condóm, por fabor". Another verb for to suck is "mamar". Of course this refers mainly to a baby sucking the mother's milk, but is also used in a sexual context.[/QUOTE]My one cent. Chupar is Spanish Spanish. My understanding (I have stopped using chupar with dominican women) is mamar is the word the dominicanas are knowledgeable about (quieres que te mame?). Unless they have been to Spain (some do!). The same with Joder (to fuck in Spain). Which just means being a pain or similar (estoy jodiendo contigo. I am messing with you).

[QUOTE=Frannie;1291990]Not sure what CBG means, but I would not ask any of them to perform a Coronary Bypass Graft as their knowledge of anatomy and sterile technique is usually rather basic and it could put you at risk.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. I cracked up with your coronary thing. I think this guy spelled it wrong. CBJ instead of CBG. He ain't taking no chances barebacking!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1292023]1. No, chupame. Second person singular imperative form.[/QUOTE]I was laughing my heart out. Second person singular imperative! You need to translate that to something intelligible for the guys who prefer watching videos. Ve te a traducir! LOL!

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1292023]1. No, chupame. Second person singular imperative form.

2. Yes, condoN, with the accent on the second syllable. It was correct originally, but the famous ISG spell checker mangled the sentence and I missed that after overriding the corrections.

3. Yes, faVor, but I wrote it with a 'be' to show the way Dominicans tend to pronounce it. Many Dominicans write it "fabor", though technically that is wrong.[/QUOTE]Okay thanks. Now please explain how you override that stupid auto correct. I know you explained how to do it once before but I forgot, LOL.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1292055]Chupar is Spanish Spanish. My understanding (I have stopped using chupar with dominican women) is mamar is the word the dominicanas are knowledgeable about (quieres que te mame?).[/QUOTE]Mamelo me pene por favor.

Suck my cock please.

If it is wrong blame the dude that made Learn Spanish Get Laid.

@911 use the edit post feature to correct your post for auto correct.

[QUOTE=Berthold;1291983]I think that WU makes most of their money from dominicans who live and work abroad sending money home on a regular basis. People call this remesas here.[/QUOTE]From Wiki: "A majority of the remittances from the US have been directed to Asian countries like India (approx. 26 billion USD) , Philippines (approx. 20 billion USD) and China (approx. 23 billion USD). Most of the remittances happen by the conventional channel of agents, like Western Union, MoneyGram or Xpress Money Services. However, with the increasing relevance and reach of the Internet, online and mobile phone money transfers from companies such as Remit2India and Xoom. Com have significantly grown"

And

"Remittances are not a new phenomenon in the world, being a normal concomitant to migration which has always been a part of human history. Several European countries, for example Spain, Italy and Ireland were heavily dependent on remittances received from their emigrants during the 19th and 20th centuries. In the case of Spain, remittances amounted to the 21% of all of its current account income in 1946. All of those countries created policies on remittances developed after significant research efforts in the field. For instance, Italy was the first country in the world to enact a law to protect remittances in 1901, while Spain was the first country to sign an international treaty (with Argentina in 1960) to lower the cost of the remittances received" [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remittance[/url]

From the World Bank: "One interesting difference between the CBO data and the World Bank data is the diversity of remittance outflows from the US. In the CBO study, remittances to Mexico dwarf remittances to other countries such as China and India (Table 2). Mexico is still the largest recipient according to our bilateral remittance matrix, but China, India, the Philippines and other developing countries also show up as large recipients".

[QUOTE=Anupk; 1291974]Again, I need some advice from experts here, please?

This is my fits trip to DR / Any Spanish speaking country.

I am trying to pick some Spanish, but I need some words for mongering. I need the slang's they use in DR and ask some question politely to the girls (not rudely).

1. How do I say " I want to have 2 or 3 pops with you"

2. BBJ.

3. CBG.

4. DFK.

5. DATY.

6, Positions like doggy, cow girl, reverse cow girl.

Any help is appropriated.[/QUOTE]1) Quiero venirme dos o tres veces,

Quiero chichar hasta venirme dos o tres veces.

Quiero singar contigo dos o tres veces.

Quiero hacerlo dos o tres veces contigo (I want to do it with you two or three times, they know what to do (hacerlo) means)

2) Mamamelo / chupamelo sin condon / preservativo.

Quiero que me lo chupes / mames sin condon / preservativo.

Chupame el pene / bicho / ripio sin condon / preservativo.

Puedes chuparme el bicho / pene / ripio sin condon?

Pene is penis, bicho and ripio are street words, equivalent to cock.

3) same as 2 but instead of sin use con.

4) beso frances.

Beso de lengua is more used.

5) quiero comerte / chuparte / mamarte / lamberte la popola / chocha / crica / vagina.

Doggy: ponte en cuatro mami.

Cow girl: trepate / sientate.

Reverse cow girl: trepate / sientate y ponte de espalda.

Anal: meteme una jumbo por el culo mami hasta que me duela

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1292066]Okay thanks. Now please explain how you override that stupid auto correct. I know you explained how to do it once before but I forgot, LOL.[/QUOTE]You post your narrative, and then you go back and use the edit button to correct the corrections.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1292061]I was laughing my heart out. Second person singular imperative! You need to translate that to something intelligible for the guys who prefer watching videos. Ve te a traducir! LOL![/QUOTE]Do NOT, I repeat, NOT allow Sosua chicas to perform open heart surgery without checking their credentials.

Second person singular imperative? I don't know. I never, ever had any lessons in grammar when I was a schoolboy, but in the US everyone does sentence diagrams and stuff that I don't understand.

Wikipedia says: The modern Spanish verb system has fourteen distinct complete paradigms (I. E. Sets of forms for each combination of tense and mood) , plus one incomplete paradigm (the imperative) , as well as three non-temporal forms (infinitive, gerund, and past participle).

I hope that clears up any confusion!

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline; 1292073]1) Quiero venirme dos o tres veces,

Quiero chichar hasta venirme dos o tres veces.

Quiero singar contigo dos o tres veces.[/QUOTE]Boricuaonline. You are the boss here. I may be old fashioned but saying "singar" to a woman you just met (even in clasico) , is a bit too strong. I have had women who wince at the word. Never heard chichar. Why not "quiero hacerte amor - dos / tres / mille veces"? It is classier and approaching a woman first time makes her think you are suave. And of course once you have convinced her in the bedroom what a schtick you carry, you can slide back to the "singar" stuff.

BTW, your anal equivalence plus "hasta que me duela" along with your "keystone" banter with Manizales: Loved both cracking up.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1292104]Do NOT, I repeat, NOT allow Sosua chicas to perform open heart surgery without checking their credentials.

Second person singular imperative? I don't know. I never, ever had any lessons in grammar when I was a schoolboy, but in the US everyone does sentence diagrams and stuff that I don't understand.

Wikipedia says: The modern Spanish verb system has fourteen distinct complete paradigms (I. E. Sets of forms for each combination of tense and mood) , plus one incomplete paradigm (the imperative) , as well as three non-temporal forms (infinitive, gerund, and past participle).

I hope that clears up any confusion![/QUOTE]I love you! Mas claro de eso, se muere!

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1292068]Mamelo me pene por favor.

Suck my cock please.

If it is wrong blame the dude that made Learn Spanish Get Laid.

at911 use the edit post feature to correct your post for auto correct.[/QUOTE]Serious? Is there a book called "learn spanish, get laid"? Hahaha.

On another note : Mamamelo - suck me that - is good enough. Mama me pene - is fine but not necessary ; most women do not think you are asking them to suck your foot even if you did not specify the requisite body part. They have a sixth sense, shall we say? LOL

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1292111]Serious? Is there a book called "learn spanish, get laid"? Hahaha.

On another note : Mamamelo. Suck me that (or mama me pene) is good enough. Most women do not think you are asking them to suck your foot even if you do not specify the requisite body part. LOL[/QUOTE]Book? Nope. Best Monger Spanish dvd or download ever and I have enough to fill a large suitcase easy.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1292113]Book? Nope. Best Monger Spanish dvd or download ever and I have enough to fill a large suitcase easy.[/QUOTE]Ah. The new gen, everything on electronic media! I was thinking something along the lines of Spanish for Dummies! LOL.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1292107]Boricuaonline. You are the boss here. I may be old fashioned but saying "singar" to a woman you just met (even in clasico) , is a bit too strong. I have had women who wince at the word. Never heard chichar. Why not "quiero hacerte amor. Dos / tres / mille veces"? It is classier and approaching a woman first time makes her think you are suave. And of course once you have convinced her in the bedroom what a schtick you carry, you can slide back to the "singar" stuff.

BTW, your anal equivalence plus "hasta que me duela" along with your "keystone" banter with Manizales: Loved both cracking up.[/QUOTE]Some chicas have asked me to "singar bien rico", singar is a dominican word, we the puertoricans say "chingar" or "chichar" instead. I have heard chichar from a couple of dominicanas.

I have never told such words to chicas, and quiero hacerte el amor is too formal, I have to wear a tuxedo to say that to a girl.

I girl I met in Santo Domingo, a bar waitress went to my hotel and brought me food. Fifteen minutes after I finish to eat I asked her "where is my dessert?" She knows she was going to be my dessert. No need to mention the words chichar, singar, etc.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1292128]I girl I met in Santo Domingo, a bar waitress went to my hotel and brought me food. Fifteen minutes after I finish to eat I asked her "where is my dessert?" She knows she was going to be my dessert. No need to mention the words chichar, singar, etc.[/QUOTE]I agree. The physical and environmental set up is a much louder hint but I try my new vocab on unsuspecting victims.

Dessert is the classiest of them all. Hasta ahora and no need to spend money on tuxedos. LOL. Hats off!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1292107]I may be old fashioned but saying "singar" to a woman you just met (even in clasico) , is a bit too strong. I have had women who wince at the word. Never heard chichar. Why not "quiero hacerte amor. Dos / tres / mille veces"? It is classier and approaching a woman first time makes her think you are suave. And of course once you have convinced her in the bedroom what a schtick you carry, you can slide back to the "singar" stuff.

Another word which dominicans use alot instead of singar is mangar. There is even a popular song here in the D. R. Called mangar su visa.

Another word dominicans use for dick is la pistola.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YFyCt7hD2g[/url]

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1292055]My one cent. Chupar is Spanish Spanish. My understanding (I have stopped using chupar with dominican women) is mamar is the word the dominicanas are knowledgeable about (quieres que te mame?).[/QUOTE]As in the old 2 Live Crew jam "Mama La Pinga"

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQH9Ql5WjVo[/url]

[QUOTE=Berthold;1292340]Another word dominicans use for dick is la pistola.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Pistola is used in Italy as well exactly in the same vein but at least to my knowledge, not that often. A more popular word for is "Uccello" or bird!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1288886].

I liked the tradewinds apartments (and dealing with Marco at Rockys was always a pleasure) good pool that I used to use at 5am with chicas from the bars, neighbors were tolerant (unlike the palms up the street from the tradewinds).

PS, I have no interest in returning to Sosua and I don't know where the original poster is staying (he said north coast) , so I gave prices I paid years ago (to use as an example) and I clearly stated the prices were from years ago or what the prices used to be. Checking some of the current prices on the internet, the prices have not increased very much over the prices I paid years ago (two guys splitting the cost of a tradewinds condo to use for sex, is about $20US per day for a one week rental during low season, in my prior post I said about $18US).[/QUOTE]To further correct your out of date info about Sosua; Marco sold Rockys to Rick a few years ago, if you thought Marco gave good service you will really be impressed with Rick's.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1292969]To further correct your out of date info about Sosua; Marco sold Rockys to Rick a few years ago, if you thought Marco gave good service you will really be impressed with Rick's.[/QUOTE]Where did I write that Marco owns Rocky's? Where did I write that Marco IS currently working at Rocky's?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1292448]Interesting. Pistola is used in Italy as well exactly in the same vein but at least to my knowledge, not that often. A more popular word for is "Uccello" or bird![/QUOTE]Pistola, in italian means also "STUPID GUY"

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1292980]Where did I write that Marco owns Rocky's? Where did I write that Marco IS currently working at Rocky's?[/QUOTE]Just trying to keep the infomation current. I appreciate your up to date posting on the SD thread.

[QUOTE=Gabus;1293087]Pistola, in italian means also "STUPID GUY"[/QUOTE]HA! Please let us know a few popular words in Italian for "dick" and "pussy". Will come handy for the travelers here. LOL.

Piacere vederti qui!

I just wonder how much I should send to my girlfriend per month, while working in Europe.

In Colombia the minimum salary is like $300 US, an engineer makes only 4 times as much, then you have people who make very much, but they are few, according to Colomian statstics.

I think $500 US could be fair, since it not to much for me, and $1000 would make me fell like a sugardaddy.

I have never done this on a regular basis and always avioded girls that ask for money- period.

Anyone who can give me advices?

One idea could be to pay real bills, like the her our / rent, university, healthcare security. It would make sense.

Well I have try and see how it works out.

Have you ever written a report about a trip to the Dominican Republic?

Seems from reading your prior posts you possibly operate a wh_rehouse or escort service in Denmark, and you have solicited for working girls on the ISG (from South America) to bring to Denmark.

I am a little dubious regarding the genuineness of your question.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1293562]I just wonder how much I should send to my girlfriend per month, while working in Europe.

In Colombia the minimum salary is like $300 US, an engineer makes only 4 times as much, then you have people who make very much, but they are few, according to Colomian statstics.

I think $500 US could be fair, since it not to much for me, and $1000 would make me fell like a sugardaddy.

I have never done this on a regular basis and always avioded girls that ask for money- period.

Anyone who can give me advices?

One idea could be to pay real bills, like the her our / rent, university, healthcare security. It would make sense.

Well I have try and see how it works out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo;1293562]I just wonder how much I should send to my girlfriend per month, while working in Europe.[/QUOTE]If she is working in Europe why would you need to send her money? Seems like she could just stay home for you to do that.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo;1293562]I think $500 US could be fair, since it not to much for me, and $1000 would make me fell like a sugardaddy.[/QUOTE]If you insist then just make it $750 to be on the safe side. ("Could be fair"? It would seem that any amount given for free would be fair.)

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1293562]I just wonder how much I should send to my girlfriend per month, while working in Europe.

In Colombia the minimum salary is like $300 US, an engineer makes only 4 times as much, then you have people who make very much, but they are few, according to Colomian statstics.

I think $500 US could be fair, since it not to much for me, and $1000 would make me fell like a sugardaddy.

I have never done this on a regular basis and always avioded girls that ask for money- period.

Anyone who can give me advices?

One idea could be to pay real bills, like the her our / rent, university, healthcare security. It would make sense.

Well I have try and see how it works out.[/QUOTE]Your GF might have other sponsors like you sending money. I would think sending $500 is too much.

Always send money if you care to as donation with no return. There is no guarantee she will be your gf forever.

In my experience once you start supporting the girl she takes it for granted that she got her hooks into you and can get away with anything.

Once it happened to me with a Phi girl. She stopped her studies, quit her part time job without my knowledge. Money support was for her studies and upkeep sent monthly. Besides that I would take gifts whenever I met her and gave extra money in person.

I went to her hometown and she was making a farce about going to school in the morning and coming late afternoon. I insisted on her school attendence records and told her if she did not get it I would go to the school and enquire. She had no choice but to come honest giving many reasons. By this time I had lost confidence in her. I just pretended as if it did not bother and we had a good time together.

However once I came back I stopped the support money in spite of her pleading and begging. Later she did tell me she has another sponsor and she does not need my support.

So just be carefull when you send support money. Just do not want you to be emotionally hurt if things get ugly.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1293792]If you insist then just make it $750 to be on the safe side.
[QUOTE]

That was FUNNY! Actually, I recommend 749 or 799 in the time tested American pricing mode.

pop airport agents are all thieves. first, the porters are in league with the cab drivers. for me the europa driver dropped me off right in front of the porters. they grabbed my bags out of the back of the taxi van without permission. i had to fight them to get my bags back.

i knew i was target then. i highly suspect the agents were told to harass me. these dominicans work together to steal from us.

and yep, they thoroughly searched both my bags. the entire time i went on a tirade calling the agents monkeys, thieves, and worse. next time i plan to give them bananas. they confirep001ed numerous items. i lost a lot of respect for dominicans on this trip. the incessant begging, lying, and stealing basically spoiled my vacation.

ss is still angry.

[quote=sunset strip; 1294295]pop airport agents are all thieves. first, the porters are in league with the cab drivers. for me the europa driver dropped me off right in front of the porters. they grabbed my bags out of the back of the taxi van without permission. i had to fight them to get my bags back.

i knew i was target then. i highly suspect the agents were told to harass me. these dominicans work together to steal from us.

and yep, they thoroughly searched both my bags. the entire time i went on a tirade calling the agents monkeys, thieves, and worse. next time i plan to give them bananas. they confirep001ed numerous items. i lost a lot of respect for dominicans on this trip. the incessant begging, lying, and stealing basically spoiled my vacation.

ss is still angry.[/quote]ss,

what you say is true but put yourself in their place for just a minute. you go to their country and fuck their wives, girlfriends and daughters for a measly 35-40 bucks and don't want to give them a two dollar tip? come on man, if you've been there before then you know it's going to happen so just deal with it. i hate it too, they make damn sure that you can't carry your own shit less than fifty feet but it's not like they are charging you $100. for christsakes, two bucks, get over it dude, i have. it ended up costing you more in the long run, you must have known that if you stand in a public place and call people out that are handling your luggage that they were going to steal shit out of it, geez. you're lucky your bags showed up at its final destination at all. don't go to a third world country if you can't deal with third world nonsense because every one of them has something about it that us first world citizen's aren't going to like.

sorry for being so harsh but it is the reality of it all.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1294305]SS,

What you say is true but put yourself in their place for just a minute. You go to their country and fuck their wives, girlfriends and daughters for a measly 35-40 bucks and don't want to give them a two dollar tip? Come on man, if you've been there before then you know it's going to happen so just deal with it. I hate it too, they make damn sure that you can't carry your own shit less than fifty feet but it's not like they are charging you $100. For christsakes, two bucks, get over it dude, I have. It ended up costing you more in the long run, you must have known that if you stand in a public place and call people out that are handling your luggage that they were going to steal shit out of it, geez. You're lucky your bags showed up at its final destination at all. Don't go to a third world country if you can't deal with third world nonsense because every one of them has something about it that us first world citizen's aren't going to like.

Sorry for being so harsh but it is the reality of it all.[/QUOTE]Good post Mani. I think this was SS's first trip to the DR, but he was there for a month. That should have been more than enough time to get understanding how things work in a 3rd world country.

Before leaving I always make sure I have at least 100 to hand to the porter when I get dropped off at the airport. Never have to go through the extra curbside baggage scanning and most of the time get to jump everyone else in line waiting to get their boarding passes.

100 pesos is a drop in the bucket considering (as Mani said) you are banging their young and beautiful tenderonies on the cheap.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1294305]SS,

What you say is true but put yourself in their place for just a minute. You go to their country and fuck their wives, girlfriends and daughters for a measly 35-40 bucks and don't want to give them a two dollar tip? Come on man, if you've been there before then you know it's going to happen so just deal with it. I hate it too, they make damn sure that you can't carry your own shit less than fifty feet but it's not like they are charging you $100. For christsakes, two bucks, get over it dude, I have. It ended up costing you more in the long run, you must have known that if you stand in a public place and call people out that are handling your luggage that they were going to steal shit out of it, geez. You're lucky your bags showed up at its final destination at all. Don't go to a third world country if you can't deal with third world nonsense because every one of them has something about it that us first world citizen's aren't going to like.

Sorry for being so harsh but it is the reality of it all.[/QUOTE]I would never check a bag in the DR, so there were no worries that my bags would not get there. I also got on the phone with USA officials as they searched my bag, which scared them. So I was not concerned about their power or ability to prevent my luggage from getting to the USA.

My problem is that I feel I was set up. In fact, another passenger even asked why they were picking on me. It was blatant.

And by the way I did not go down there and fuck the way you implied. As I stated the environment in Sosua was not amenable to my tastes this time and I actually did very little with the lackluster women in town last month. Based on other posts it seems other agree things were down during May for some reason.

I do take offense with your attempt to tell me where to travel. Dude I have traveled all over Latin American and the DR has some of the worst quality of life issues. These people act like elementary school kids! Are there any adults there at all! It is not a Third World thing, it is a DR thing!

I have never gotten treated this shabbily and unprofessionally in Mexico, Brazil, Chile, etc.

More than likely I will not return to the DR but if I do I will have my bananas ready for the agents to eat.

SS

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1294313]I would never check a bag in the DR, so there were no worries that my bags would not get there. I also got on the phone with USA officials as they searched my bag, which scared them. So I was not concerned about their power or ability to prevent my luggage from getting to the USA.

SS[/QUOTE]Why would that scare them? You are in the DR.

[quote=sunset strip; 1294317]100 pesos is a drop in the bucket. dude, do not ever tell me what to do with my money. who in the hell are you supposed to be jerkoff to come on here telling me what to pay somebody?

ss[/quote]this is the same guy inquiring about $25 a night dumps in puerto plata (hotel kevin), 300 pesos haitian "jack-shacks", and then wants to scream bloody-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] when the porters want to help him with his bags for a tip.

take your broke-cheap ass back to mexico!

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[quote=sunset strip; 1294317]100 pesos is a drop in the bucket. dude, do not ever tell me what to do with my money. who in the hell are you supposed to be jerkoff to come on here telling me what to pay somebody?

ss[/quote]hey ss,

a couple questions for a rookie dr traveler.

-what did they confirep001e?

-were these dr airport security, or the airline employees?

-were these your bags you were going to check, or carry on? would this have happened if you had carry on only?

thanks!

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip;1294323]Save as Pros you were there this last time when I was there. We might have to meet somewhere to settle this one! Serious on that.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sunset Strip;1294295]The entire time I went on a tirade calling the agents monkeys, thieves, and worse. Next time I plan to give them bananas.[/QUOTE]First of all, I am no small guy by any stretch of the imagination. The Dominicans may have let you get away with it, but if you EVER called me a monkey in my face I would absolutely go ape-shit all over your cheap 300 peso Haitian jack-shack ass King Kong style.

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip;1294323]We might have to meet somewhere to settle this one! Serious on that.[/QUOTE]Quit kidding yourself! You couldn't even give the porter 20 pesos. I doubt your broke ass has any money for a return trip!

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1294323]My suggestion is that guys (such as Save As Pros and Manzi) who are willing to let DR airport agents, porters, etc, act unprofessionally, unethically, and prejudiced, should should not monger outside DR. You types are the ones who cause prices to inflate, girls to become disrespectful, and locals to extort money.

I am not sure if Save as Pros and Mani have been elsewhere besides the DR but it is not the end all of the monger world.

That comment that I "should know how things were since I was there a month" was flat out disrespectful.

Save as Pros you were there this last time when I was there. We might have to meet somewhere to settle this one! Serious on that.

But back to my retort. It is silly in my opinion to give in to these people. I have filed a complaint with the USA Embassy and hopefully those agents will lose their jobs, if not already.

That is the way to handle things not by acquiescing but by putting these unprofessional people in their place. Save as Pros and Mazi are the type of people who ruin a mongering destination.

SS[/QUOTE]SS, you totally missed the point, you are in THEIR FUCKING COUNTRY amigo, you play by THEIR rules in a third world country. The complaint to the USA embassy is a joke, the porters are laughing at your gringo ass.

Fucking up a mongering destination by giving a baggage handler two freeking dollars and respecting their albeit fucked up ways of doing things? Smoke another one Bobo.

For the record I have mongered in about 15 countries and have traveled to many more and if you acted like you did in many other countries they would haul your ass off to jail, they could have done that to you in the DR, you were lucky actually. Whether you like it or not,"this ain't Kansas Toto".

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip;1294313]And by the way I did not go down there and fuck the way you implied.[/QUOTE]I have news for you. If you had sex with any women at all then you did in fact fuck someone's daughter and most likely someone's wife or girlfriend.

One more thing,it is an unwritten mongering rule that to not tip the musicians in the POP airport brings very bad luck with the ladies,you probably stiffed them guys too though.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1294356]One more thing,it is an unwritten mongering rule that to not tip the musicians in the POP airport brings very bad luck with the ladies,you probably stiffed them guys too though.[/QUOTE]

Thats one thing I never fail to do. Unwritten monger rule, baaaad baaad luck! LOL. Both coming and going!

Keep doing your thing SS, I like your passion, dignity and how you stand up for what you think is right!

Some rules of thumb in the, weed out the scammers, don't make friends so easily in the DR, don't overpay like some of these patos on here, tip where you are "suppose to" and be "fair", you're right don't tell anybody how to spend your hard earned $$$

Now let me get back to the game. Jejeje

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That was some BS that Manzi just spat! Monger rules about paying DUDES! What's next, is he going to tell us we need to pay somebody to aim our cock* into the hole? This is ridiculous and exactly why I, and some others I associate with, stop posting on this forum. Too many guys jacking threads and flaming posts.

I posted a warning to real men about the crooks in the POP airport. Manzi comes in and flames me with some shit about how "real" mongers pay other MEN to carry their bags a few feet! Then SaveASpros said he gives these men 100 pesos! DAMN! That is a racket.

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[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1293562]I just wonder how much I should send to my girlfriend per month, while working in Europe.

In Colombia the minimum salary is like $300 US, an engineer makes only 4 times as much, then you have people who make very much, but they are few, according to Colomian statstics.

I think $500 US could be fair, since it not to much for me, and $1000 would make me fell like a sugardaddy.

I have never done this on a regular basis and always avioded girls that ask for money- period.

Anyone who can give me advices?

One idea could be to pay real bills, like the her our / rent, university, healthcare security. It would make sense.

Well I have try and see how it works out.[/QUOTE]The starting salary of a doctor here in the D. R. In a hospital is 18k which is round about 500 dollars, just to give you an idea.

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1294399]That was some BS that Manzi just spat! Monger rules about paying DUDES! What's next, is he going to tell us we need to pay somebody to aim our cock* into the hole? This is ridiculous and exactly why I, and some others I associate with, stop posting on this forum. Too many guys jacking threads and flaming posts.

I posted a warning to real men about the crooks in the POP airport. Manzi comes in and flames me with some shit about how "real" mongers pay other MEN to carry their bags a few feet! Then SaveASpros said he gives these men 100 pesos! DAMN! That is a racket.

Seems some people are wimps, simps, and bitches, while others are mongers and then others are actual players. Anybody coming on here trying to tell other guys to pay MEN is not a real monger, and certainly not a player. When did that shit become part of the game? It never did. It is just Manzi and Saveaspros flaming.

DO NOT EVER ATTEMPT TO FLAME ME AS IF I AM A NEWBIE. I could care less if you have been to the DR a hundred times. I did more in a month than most guys have done in years! So Manzi and SaveASPros GO to HELL! You better leave me alone before this shit turns into some real, not internet, gangster stuff!

'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. '

&8213; Mark Twain speaking on Manzi's "MONGER RULES" aka PAY THEM OFF!

LOL.

SS[/QUOTE]Thanks for the entertaining roid rage, instead of answering my question. Guess what everyone is saying about you is true. This is suppose to be a forum where guys of similar interest share info. For the common cause. Not a forum where you can hide behind your keyboard and make up stories about how many girls you screwed for free, and how they carried you down the street, praising your sexual skills.

I've already had other mongers PM, explaining what to expect. Now don't bother responding. Don't want to take any time away from your previous eruption.

[quote=sunset strip;1294295]pop airport agents are all thieves. first, the porters are in league with the cab drivers. for me the europa driver dropped me off right in front of the porters. they grabbed my bags out of the back of the taxi van without permission. i had to fight them to get my bags back.[/quote]they always try to take the bags without permission. personally, if i don't want their assistance i just tell them "no thanks, i'll do it myself." never occurred to me to try fighting with them.

[quote=sunset strip;1294295]i knew i was target then.[/quote]yeah, well, fighting with baggage handlers gains you respect elsewhere on your travels or in the us?

[quote=sunset strip; 1294295]i highly suspect the agents were told to harass me. these dominicans work together to steal from us.

and yep, they thoroughly searched both my bags. the entire time i went on a tirade calling the agents monkeys, thieves, and worse.[/quote]checking bags for contraband items is standard. i have had stuff taken too, like toothpaste or nail clippers. now this business of calling them monkeys-have you tried this play out in other countries or in the us and found it successful?

[quote=sunset strip;1294295]next time i plan to give them bananas.[/quote]again, i would have thought this would be interpreted as an insult. see news reports on throwing bananas at the euro soccer championships, which is usually interpreted as a very insulting gesture by fans against certain players of the opposite team.

[quote=sunset strip;1294295]they confirep001ed numerous items.[/quote]well, here we have the crux of the matter. exactly what did they confirep001e and did they offer any reason?

[quote=sunset strip;1294295]i lost a lot of respect for dominicans on this trip. the incessant begging, lying, and stealing basically spoiled my vacation.[/quote]sorry to hear that your vacation was spoiled.

[quote=sunset strip;1294295]ss is still angry.[/quote]ss needs to ask his mommie to give him a big hug and make it better.

I've had expensive cologne and a pair of leather Gucci sandals stolen at POP when departing for Miami. What I did was blame myself because I got caught slipping. I don't take expensive cologne to the DR anymore now. I put my shoes in different bags so they won't get the match to the pair. We just make adjustments and move on. The porters move fast and assume you want their services, but expirience has taught me to move faster and say" No thanks".

The vendors and salesmen working us in the DR are a challenge to me to ignore them. They want you to stop so they can run their pitch. You don't have to play this game. Its not like they are going to tackle you and force you to buy something. Put your walkman headphones on and nod your head to the music, this really pisses them off but so what. They beg, smile, even insult your momma but who cares, you don't play the game they a running. If they let me come to their island and fuck their beautiful women for next to nothing, they have the right to atleast TRY to sell me something. But I can always say no and move on.

As far as the threats you are issuing, thats not cool bro. You asked for info before your trip and the guys helped you and wished you good luck, now you want to get Gangsta, not cool bro. The "Monkey" comment was very low and could get you in a very bad situation in the future if repeated. My advise would be to drop that word from your language when insulting someone.

Respectfully your, Gogo.

I have ben travelling to Santo Domingo since 1998. Airport was very different, no a / c, no "walk of shame exit", no control of people working there. There was a lot of guys outside ready to take your bags from your hand as soon as you enter the taxi or pick up area. It happened to me once, they took my bags I gave one dollar to the guy. Next trip I do not let the guys take my suitcase and politely tell them no thanks I can handle them. I learn from my experiences to do not let the things I do not like to occur again. I have learned all the things I need to make my trip a painless experience. Do not let anything or anybody spoil your vacation. A vacation hour will be costing to you from $10 to $50 or more per hour (if you divide all expenses of your trip between the hours of your stay) so always manage to avoid things going out of control.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1294585]Please give them $2 worth of bananas, they will thank you. No, sorry don't do that, it will affect the dominican peso to dollar exchange rate.[/QUOTE]Sunset Strip is a little naive thinking he can get away with shit with the taxi airport mafia, just ask this dude.

[url]http://dominicanwatchdog.org/dominican_news/page-German_tourist_killed_in_Puerto_Plata_airport[/url]

[QUOTE=Frannie;1294569]Checking bags for contraband items is standard. I have had stuff taken too, like toothpaste or nail clippers. Now this business of calling them monkeys-have you tried this play out in other countries or in the US and found it successful?[/QUOTE]Couple of years back, I was at Gatwick, flying to Toulouse, France. I had just landed at Heathrow from Boston and had to take the bus to Gatwick. Not having any sleep, I was irritated and then the agents took away some stuff from my toiletries pouch, that sailed through US customs without a glitch just a few hours before, which incensed me. The short story is that I was not able to win it, unless I was willing to take the train across the channel to get to France.

I find the security screening a nuisance that varies continuously from country to country,especially in EU, where it is done by a wing of the Police. One time, even in the DR, a screener, just before boarding an US bound plane, wanted to to remove something from my toiletries bag and on calling a supervisor, it was fixed. Frankly, I find the US to be the easiest, even though I do not like so much Govt. Power to keep me "safe" and make Dick Cheney and the Blackwater dude Rich!

[QUOTE=Frannie;]it was just that you reminded us of ourselves when we were young and dumb.[/QUOTE]Whos to say that with age that automatically constitutes a higher intelligence, I know a number of old timers 60plus who have been as naive as the first day I met them as a young whipper snapper. Jejeje LOL

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Search it out!

The dominicans I know and call friends are not beggars nor liars. I do not frequent the tourist areas anymore, may apt is located in a lower middle class area. Most of my neighbors are poor (but prideful) , for neighborly things like helping me with a package I do not give nor am expected to give. I do hire neighbors for odd jobs (I hate painting) and pay them accordingly.

My landlord and his family are now very close friends, I am always invited down for a drink (almost daily) , beer is flowing freely and I never have to come out of my pocket. His friends have become my friends and they are the same. They are what I would consider middle class and treat me like family. I've been living in this apartment for 1 1/2 years now and have found extremely gracious, friendly warm people. In NJ / NY, Since I was a child living with my parents have I had neighbors like this.

In the tourist areas I feel tourists get a bad image of the dominicans, this is where a lot of disposable income is entering into the DR. So we get to see the lowest of the low in terms of hustling, begging, etc. Also, if you look at the P4P sex scene (which is what we are here for) , in the USA it is much more seedy, full of scam artists. I've not had, what I would consider, any real problems. But with that said, any experience monger knows, the girl is out to get as much money as she can and we all need to be watchful.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1294354]SS, you totally missed the point, you are in THEIR FUCKING COUNTRY amigo, you play by THEIR rules in a third world country. The complaint to the USA embassy is a joke, the porters are laughing at your gringo ass.

Whether you like it or not,"this ain't Kansas Toto".[/QUOTE]Spot on, Man911. Take off your guns, SS; ain't nothin' but a bunch of poor people trying to make a living. Give or don't give, up to you, but don't have a stroke over this trivial shit, dude. Far too many good things to appreciate to get upset over trivial shit like this.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1295099]Search it out![/QUOTE]I estimate the cost of acquisition to be $2, 000 to $3, 000!

[QUOTE=Sidney;1295738]I estimate the cost of acquisition to be $2, 000 to $3, 000![/QUOTE]Temporary residency which is good for a year, paid an honest lawyer who speaks english about $1000. Led me by the hand thru the Bureau of Migration and then to another office. The 2nd stage is a residency card and a little less money, but when I go to renew after two years next March, I will go to a Bureau of Migration office here in Santiago and the cost will be about 3000pesos, I think. Won't need a lawyer. Residency is good to have for a drivers license, health insurance, and to show Dominicans I am living here in good faith. BUT. I'll always be a gringo.

Hey, with what you have you can work legally?

Peace,

Bbl

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1295764]Temporary residency which is good for a year, paid an honest lawyer who speaks english about $1000. Led me by the hand thru the Bureau of Migration and then to another office. The 2nd stage is a residency card and a little less money, but when I go to renew after two years next March, I will go to a Bureau of Migration office here in Santiago and the cost will be about 3000pesos, I think. Won't need a lawyer. Residency is good to have for a drivers license, health insurance, and to show Dominicans I am living here in good faith. BUT. I'll always be a gringo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1295309]The dominicans I know and call friends are not beggars nor liars. I do not frequent the tourist areas anymore, may apt is located in a lower middle class area. Most of my neighbors are poor (but prideful) , for neighborly things like helping me with a package I do not give nor am expected to give. I do hire neighbors for odd jobs (I hate painting) and pay them accordingly.

My landlord and his family are now very close friends, I am always invited down for a drink (almost daily) , beer is flowing freely and I never have to come out of my pocket. His friends have become my friends and they are the same. They are what I would consider middle class and treat me like family. I've been living in this apartment for 1 1/2 years now and have found extremely gracious, friendly warm people. In NJ / NY, Since I was a child living with my parents have I had neighbors like this.

In the tourist areas I feel tourists get a bad image of the dominicans, this is where a lot of disposable income is entering into the DR. So we get to see the lowest of the low in terms of hustling, begging, etc. Also, if you look at the P4P sex scene (which is what we are here for) , in the USA it is much more seedy, full of scam artists. I've not had, what I would consider, any real problems. But with that said, any experience monger knows, the girl is out to get as much money as she can and we all need to be watchful.[/QUOTE]I must agree. When I visit friends in Santo Domingo Este, I always encounter good folks who have helped me with directions when lost, and directed me to the store, and so on. I have not encountered the negative aspects when outside the Zona Colonial or tourist areas. I should clarify this and say the Dominicans are no worse than other groups, including North Americans who usurp the term American. That is another story. Good and not so good people exist everywhere. Also, when shopping, I have had several cashiers return money to me because I misunderstood the amount and paid too much. Folks need to travel outside the tourist areas, meet real people, and enjoy the country.

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv;1295920]Hey, with what you have you can work legally?[/QUOTE]Yes, you can legally work with residency, as in anywhere else in the world. I believe that the dr1 dot com site provides some information.

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1295764]Temporary residency which is good for a year, paid an honest lawyer who speaks english about $1000. Led me by the hand thru the Bureau of Migration and then to another office. The 2nd stage is a residency card and a little less money, but when I go to renew after two years next March, I will go to a Bureau of Migration office here in Santiago and the cost will be about 3000pesos, I think. Won't need a lawyer. Residency is good to have for a drivers license, health insurance, and to show Dominicans I am living here in good faith. BUT. I'll always be a gringo.[/QUOTE]You paid the lawyer $1000 US or RD? Can you PM me his info?

The problem now is that you now have to begin the process for residency in your home country so if you are already living in the DR you will have to incur the cost of flying home plus paying a lawyer more than before due to the more complex application process.

[QUOTE=Professor 1;1296420]I must agree. When I visit friends in Santo Domingo Este, I always encounter good folks who have helped me with directions when lost, and directed me to the store, and so on. I have not encountered the negative aspects when outside the Zona Colonial or tourist areas. I should clarify this and say the Dominicans are no worse than other groups, including North Americans who usurp the term American. That is another story. Good and not so good people exist everywhere. Also, when shopping, I have had several cashiers return money to me because I misunderstood the amount and paid too much. Folks need to travel outside the tourist areas, meet real people, and enjoy the country.[/QUOTE]I once went to Jenny's Supermercado in Costambar. As I extied the store and began walking down the street, the guy from the store came running to me and told me that I dropped a hundred US on the floor. That really made me have faith too. There is good and bad everyywhere in every society.

Most mongers only go to where the pimps and hoes are and assume this is the whole country.

[QUOTE=TeamHorny;1296771]I once went to Jenny's Supermercado in Costambar. As I extied the store and began walking down the street, the guy from the store came running to me and told me that I dropped a hundred US on the floor. That really made me have faith too. There is good and bad everyywhere in every society.[/QUOTE]

My live in girl has been getting to be a pain in the ass. I take care of everything, she has no needs and very few wants. But lately she's been pissing me off, not taking care of the things I buy her (thinking I will just buy her a new one). Her BB broke (because she did not take care of it) , I did not buy her a new one, instead I bought her a 695 alcatel, makes calls and texts. Oh no baby, esta cosa es feo como yo puedo usar eso, soy fina. With this and some other things, she tells me I humiliate her over money and she is going to find a job and an apartment on her own.

I tell her go ahead. 2 days later she's coming back crying for me to take her back. I tell her if she comes back she has to get a job and pay for her wants, her needs I will take care of. I know a lot of people in DR. She say's she needs a resume, I get this kid from the centro de internet to make one for her. She is "looking" in the newspapers, etc."I need to know someone to get a job" no problem, I know the head of quality control for Tricom, he say's he'll get her a job in the call center. Next she only wants part time, no problem, my buddy has openings from 8 to 3, now she's running out of excuses. Lastly, she complains, why am I so interested in her working, so I can go run around while she's working. I tell her baby, I do that now, I don't have to hide it. I tell her I don't want a lazy woman, I've had that before and where is she now, on the street. Do you want to be out on the street? Get the job, feel good about yourself and I cannot humiliate you over money any longer.

More complaints about if I run around then she can, I tell her if I ever catch you doing that, your out on your ass with nothing. She's out right now getting her hair done for her interview tomorrow!

I had a girl in the DR like your girl. There must be something in the water. It seems they are not use to good men. DR men treat them like shit and they lap it up. My girl was a great fuck and I liked her. However in the end she lied and who know what. She is now on the street and still does not understand why. Good luck I think you are going to need it. Once you find a chica with good character you will make love instead of having sex.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1297262]My live in girl has been getting to be a pain in the ass. I take care of everything, she has no needs and very few wants. But lately she's been pissing me off, not taking care of the things I buy her (thinking I will just buy her a new one). Her BB broke (because she did not take care of it) , I did not buy her a new one, instead I bought her a 695 alcatel, makes calls and texts. Oh no baby, esta cosa es feo como yo puedo usar eso, soy fina. With this and some other things, she tells me I humiliate her over money and she is going to find a job and an apartment on her own.

I tell her go ahead. 2 days later she's coming back crying for me to take her back. I tell her if she comes back she has to get a job and pay for her wants, her needs I will take care of. I know a lot of people in DR. She say's she needs a resume, I get this kid from the centro de internet to make one for her. She is "looking" in the newspapers, etc."I need to know someone to get a job" no problem, I know the head of quality control for Tricom, he say's he'll get her a job in the call center. Next she only wants part time, no problem, my buddy has openings from 8 to 3, now she's running out of excuses. Lastly, she complains, why am I so interested in her working, so I can go run around while she's working. I tell her baby, I do that now, I don't have to hide it. I tell her I don't want a lazy woman, I've had that before and where is she now, on the street. Do you want to be out on the street? Get the job, feel good about yourself and I cannot humiliate you over money any longer.

More complaints about if I run around then she can, I tell her if I ever catch you doing that, your out on your ass with nothing. She's out right now getting her hair done for her interview tomorrow![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1297262]My live in girl has been getting to be a pain in the ass. I take care of everything, she has no needs and very few wants. But lately she's been pissing me off, not taking care of the things I buy her (thinking I will just buy her a new one). Her BB broke (because she did not take care of it) , I did not buy her a new one, instead I bought her a 695 alcatel, makes calls and texts. Oh no baby, esta cosa es feo como yo puedo usar eso, soy fina. With this and some other things, she tells me I humiliate her over money and she is going to find a job and an apartment on her own.

I tell her go ahead. 2 days later she's coming back crying for me to take her back. I tell her if she comes back she has to get a job and pay for her wants, her needs I will take care of. I know a lot of people in DR. She say's she needs a resume, I get this kid from the centro de internet to make one for her. She is "looking" in the newspapers, etc."I need to know someone to get a job" no problem, I know the head of quality control for Tricom, he say's he'll get her a job in the call center. Next she only wants part time, no problem, my buddy has openings from 8 to 3, now she's running out of excuses. Lastly, she complains, why am I so interested in her working, so I can go run around while she's working. I tell her baby, I do that now, I don't have to hide it. I tell her I don't want a lazy woman, I've had that before and where is she now, on the street. Do you want to be out on the street? Get the job, feel good about yourself and I cannot humiliate you over money any longer.

More complaints about if I run around then she can, I tell her if I ever catch you doing that, your out on your ass with nothing. She's out right now getting her hair done for her interview tomorrow![/QUOTE]Yo Cage,

Make sure you keep your pimp hand strong, meaning make sure you lead and she follows. That's good that your making her get a job. She needs to understand that money does NOT grow on trees and the value of an honest day work. These honeys get spoiled real quick cus all they see is you paying for everything or you always having money when needed. BUT they don't see the hard work that your doing to provide her a good living.

BTW I'm glad you put your girl in check when she told you she's going to get her a piece on the side like you do. It sounds like she's testing you but at this point in yaw relationship she should know where her boundaries lie. Hell my girls here in Vegas knows not to test me like that and I'm in America.

So tell your girl that Ol' Coolie said to stay in a woman's place, stop trying to test your patience and be cool. Ya' Dig!

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1297262]My live in girl has been getting to be a pain in the ass. I take care of everything, she has no needs and very few wants. But lately she's been pissing me off, not taking care of the things I buy her (thinking I will just buy her a new one). Her BB broke (because she did not take care of it) , I did not buy her a new one, instead I bought her a 695 alcatel, makes calls and texts. Oh no baby, esta cosa es feo como yo puedo usar eso, soy fina. With this and some other things, she tells me I humiliate her over money and she is going to find a job and an apartment on her own.

I tell her go ahead. 2 days later she's coming back crying for me to take her back. I tell her if she comes back she has to get a job and pay for her wants, her needs I will take care of. I know a lot of people in DR. She say's she needs a resume, I get this kid from the centro de internet to make one for her. She is "looking" in the newspapers, etc."I need to know someone to get a job" no problem, I know the head of quality control for Tricom, he say's he'll get her a job in the call center. Next she only wants part time, no problem, my buddy has openings from 8 to 3, now she's running out of excuses. Lastly, she complains, why am I so interested in her working, so I can go run around while she's working. I tell her baby, I do that now, I don't have to hide it. I tell her I don't want a lazy woman, I've had that before and where is she now, on the street. Do you want to be out on the street? Get the job, feel good about yourself and I cannot humiliate you over money any longer.

More complaints about if I run around then she can, I tell her if I ever catch you doing that, your out on your ass with nothing. She's out right now getting her hair done for her interview tomorrow![/QUOTE]Cage you are a good dude and I love the honesty in your reporting, but don't be fooled bro. She might be getting her hair done to impress her new boss to get in his good graces. Putting her in school to learn english or a good trade might have been better. Please don't think these Dominican dudes respect you're friendship enough to NOT screw your girl. We are all outsiders no what they make you believe, thats why I could never trust a Dominicana 100. Cheating by all parties is a given in some parts of Dominican society and Dominicanos will most likely pull rank over an outsider. With this said take it for what it is bro. Have your cake and eat it also, but never think a Dominicana won't fuck up.

I appreciate all the positive comments, public and private, and to those PM's (you know who you are) I'm not going to abuse my connection. He's doing me a favor.

And Coolie your right she is spoiled, but being my main girl got her that way (so it's my fault I guess). I like to live comfortably, and she's been with me since early 2010 and has grown accustomed to that. I work from home and she see's that I don't work that hard (which I don't) but I've set my self up to get to this point. I enjoy my money and what it can get me. An old friend of mine told me, the casket doesn't have pockets. (in other words, you can't take it with you) I got out 4 to 5 times a week and like to have a good time, she usually gets to go along.

If she keeps going this way she will miss out and on to the next one.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1297383]Yo Cage,

Make sure you keep your pimp hand strong, meaning make sure you lead and she follows. That's good that your making her get a job. She needs to understand that money does NOT grow on trees and the value of an honest day work. These honeys get spoiled real quick cus all they see is you paying for everything or you always having money when needed. BUT they don't see the hard work that your doing to provide her a good living.

BTW I'm glad you put your girl in check when she told you she's going to get her a piece on the side like you do. It sounds like she's testing you but at this point in yaw relationship she should know where her boundaries lie. Hell my girls here in Vegas knows not to test me like that and I'm in America.

So tell your girl that Ol' Coolie said to stay in a woman's place, stop trying to test your patience and be cool. Ya' Dig![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1297262]My live in girl has been getting to be a pain in the ass. I take care of everything, she has no needs and very few wants. But lately she's been pissing me off, not taking care of the things I buy her (thinking I will just buy her a new one). Her BB broke (because she did not take care of it) , I did not buy her a new one, instead I bought her a 695 alcatel, makes calls and texts. Oh no baby, esta cosa es feo como yo puedo usar eso, soy fina. With this and some other things, she tells me I humiliate her over money and she is going to find a job and an apartment on her own.[/QUOTE]The Hilton Santo Domingo is hiring right now service staff. 7,5K a month + tip just in case your girlfriend is interested.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1293760]Have you ever written a report about a trip to the Dominican Republic?

Seems from reading your prior posts you possibly operate a wh_rehouse or escort service in Denmark, and you have solicited for working girls on the ISG (from South America) to bring to Denmark.

I am a little dubious regarding the genuineness of your question.[/QUOTE]I was investigating that, but it seems very stressful. I have a work where I can work double shifts and then take long payed vacacions. Love just such a much more easier option.

I have contact with two girls. It seems they get along by them self. Diana have her own business and claims that her former husband and father to her child supports her, so she doese't want any money.

Estrella, is proud and she wants to marry me. I will work in my country and visit her as often as I can and invite her to Europe during our summer.

So those issues seems have solved themself.

I have met girls, especially colombianas that can decive you totally, it seems to be in their blood. I met a model, she invited me to see her walk on the catwalk in a fancy commercial centro, like Oviedo once in Medellíand, after having nice conversations for months. Then I found out she worked as an internetsex model. I also understood she worked as an escort.

No big surprise.

Actually I have become friend with two internet sex models. I may sound odd. But we have a good contact.

Colombianas are exceptional in many ways. Good and bad.

I really hope this Estrella is as calm and friendly as she has been on the internet.

I read a post from a man living in DR and he wrote that if you just behave like a gentleman, there is a good chance she will love you for life etc.

I will try DR, even if Colombianas and venezolanas are so hot that I hardly bealieve my eyes sometimes.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Berthold;1297533]The Hilton Santo Domingo is hiring right now service staff. 7,5K a month + tip just in case your girlfriend is interested.[/QUOTE]I did not know that, I actually know the boss of the baggage handlers. If she gets a job there I would have to find another rendezvous as I am a diamond member in Hilton and use that frequently.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1297571]I was investigating that, but it seems very stressful. I have a work where I can work double shifts and then take long payed vacacions. Love just such a much more easier option.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Thanks.

There are 100's of Colombianas who work on live sex cam sites, like streamate or live jasmin.

Dominicanas, like chicas from anywhere else, there are good ones and there are some that are like sharks. I have met many excellent Dominicanas, some who have made me very happy.

If you have any questions about the DR or Dominicanas, ask away, lots of knowledgeable people on this site.

Lots of beautiful women in Copenhagen (Tivoli spelled backwards is I lov it, LOL).

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1297688]Lots of beautiful women in Copenhagen (Tivoli spelled backwards is I lov it, LOL).[/QUOTE]Helena Christensen was born in Copenhagen, Denmark (Danish father and Peruvian mother). She also appeared in the Wicked Game music video, [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAOxCqSxRD0[/url] Tivoli is the second oldest amusement park in the world, located in Copenhagen, Denmark (the original poster is from Denmark). Photo from the internet.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1297872]Helena Christensen was born in Copenhagen, Denmark (Danish father and Peruvian mother). She also appeared in the Wicked Game music video,

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAOxCqSxRD0[/url]

Tivoli is the second oldest amusement park in the world, located in Copenhagen, Denmark (the original poster is from Denmark). Photo from the internet.[/QUOTE]That video brought Chris Isaak to fame, great video / song!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1297872]Helena Christensen was born in Copenhagen, Denmark (Danish father and Peruvian mother). She also appeared in the Wicked Game music video,

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAOxCqSxRD0[/url]

Tivoli is the second oldest amusement park in the world, located in Copenhagen, Denmark (the original poster is from Denmark). Photo from the internet.[/QUOTE]I am impressed Jaosousa. Not too many people would know of Tivoli in Kobn Havn!

Agree with Buscemi! That Chris Isaac's is a beautiful song, I have that in my 80s collection...time of my youth. Did not know of the model -surprised that she spells her name with a "Ch" rather than a Nordic "K".

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1298218]Not too many people would know of Tivoli in Kobn Havn![/QUOTE]Kobn Havn?

In Danish the name is "København" (roughly derived from the words for merchants' harbor or buyers' haven). Population over 1 million in Copenhagen. It is an easy train and ferry ride from Northern Germany (Hamburg has the St. Pauli district which has brothels, sex shops and probably strip clubs).

I am from Massachusetts and it appears that it is a handicap in terms of airline ticket pricing. I am wondering if any of you will have an insight into how to do better in terms of pricing. Month of August. I am seeing a rise in price over the last few days (Aug7.Aug 22 tentatively). Over $550 now on non stops.

Also, would people comment on Spirit airline experience? I never flew them and notice they charge even carry-ons.

Thanks in advance.

They charge for all bags both ways. Their arrival and departure times are very good for vactioning. Early arrival and late afternoon departures is excellent. However you are charged for carryv on and checked baggage. Do the math and see if it works.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1298563]I am from Massachusetts and it appears that it is a handicap in terms of airline ticket pricing. I am wondering if any of you will have an insight into how to do better in terms of pricing. Month of August. I am seeing a rise in price over the last few days (Aug7. Aug 22 tentatively). Over $550 now on non stops.

Also, would people comment on Spirit airline experience? I never flew them and notice they charge even carry-ons.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1298563]I am from Massachusetts and it appears that it is a handicap in terms of airline ticket pricing. I am wondering if any of you will have an insight into how to do better in terms of pricing. Month of August. I am seeing a rise in price over the last few days (Aug7. Aug 22 tentatively). Over $550 now on non stops.

Also, would people comment on Spirit airline experience? I never flew them and notice they charge even carry-ons.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Spirit use to be the best deal for basic travel with limited options (days, locations, times). Now, they charge you for pretty much everything. Unless you want to be the last person on the place, have to stand, and not ask the flight attendant any questions, the price is the same as the rest. They probably charge you to use the bathroom. Bring your own toilet paper (that probably counts as a carry on, LOL).

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298579]Spirit use to be the best deal for basic travel with limited options (days, locations, times). Now, they charge you for pretty much everything. Unless you want to be the last person on the place, have to stand, and not ask the flight attendant any questions, the price is the same as the rest. They probably charge you to use the bathroom. Bring your own toilet paper (that probably counts as a carry on, LOL).[/QUOTE]Thank you and Old Kool for your thoughts. I was trying to split the flights but I fear it is not worth taking a chance on an unknown (for me) and now disparaged airline.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1298579]Spirit use to be the best deal for basic travel with limited options (days, locations, times). Now, they charge you for pretty much everything. Unless you want to be the last person on the place, have to stand, and not ask the flight attendant any questions, the price is the same as the rest. They probably charge you to use the bathroom. Bring your own toilet paper (that probably counts as a carry on, LOL).[/QUOTE]I have flown Spirit several times. It worked out much cheaper than AA to Miami at the time. You do pay extra for suitcases and $30 each way for a carry on. I found the experience to be OK and the seats were more comfortable than AA. Did not know about the toilet paper, as I prefer to use the facilities in the terminal. Overall I prefer Spirit to AA, but one has to take many factors into consideration deciding what flight to take.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1298655]I have flown Spirit several times. It worked out much cheaper than AA to Miami at the time. You do pay extra for suitcases and $30 each way for a carry on. I found the experience to be OK and the seats were more comfortable than AA. Did not know about the toilet paper, as I prefer to use the facilities in the terminal. Overall I prefer Spirit to AA, but one has to take many factors into consideration deciding what flight to take.[/QUOTE]I wanted to split the travel into two different tickets. BOS-MIA AND MIA-POP / STI / SDQ on Spirit and the pricing that way looked better but when I have to add 4X$30 for cabin luggage (I never travel with check in. To the DR) , it did not look so attractive any longer plus I am afraid that they might hassle me with the size of luggage (if luggage is a revenue earner) if it does not fit in or there is no room overhead, making me lose my connection so I am planning to stay true to "trueblue", despite the damage!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1298250]Kobn Havn?

In Danish the name is "København" (roughly derived from the words for merchants' harbor or buyers' haven). Population over 1 million in Copenhagen. It is an easy train and ferry ride from Northern Germany (Hamburg has the St. Pauli district which has brothels, sex shops and probably strip clubs).[/QUOTE][QUOTE]I am impressed Jaosousa. Not too many people would know of Tivoli in Kobn Havn![/QUOTE]I am even MORE impressed Jaosousa. Not too many would know that I made a typo. Writing KobenHavn (actually I should have spelled it KoebenHavn in English to try and mimic the correct sound not having the correct keyboard) but then as some would say here, what has Tivoli or KobenHavn to do with mongering in the D. R, eh?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1299448]but then as some would say here, what has Tivoli or KobenHavn to do with mongering in the D. R, eh?[/QUOTE]From the April 7, 1859, New York Times: "San Domingo threatened with blockade from a Danish fleet. The Danish Government demands $150,000 to be paid to John Cristmas. The Dominicans are prepared to resist, even at the risk of open war with Denmark." [url]http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F20F15F735551B7493C5A9178FD85F4D8584F9[/url] Copenhagen is the capital of Denmark. Sometimes it can be interesting, to know a little history, of the country where a person mongers.

Happy 4th, Everyone!

Hi to all.

I consider myself a newbie (even if I read this forum since years) , and please excuse any errors, as I'm italian, so english is only a foreign language for me.

This year I have a mad idea: to come to Dominican Republic (5th travel in 10 years) , book an all-inclusive (Gran Bahia Principe Ambar is the one I am thinking about) at Punta Cana and hire 2 local girls for a 15 days long 3some.

I chose Punta Cana because I like the sea more than Puerto Plata's one (been at Oxygen 4 years ago.)

This way I avoid the expensive flight and fees for the escort / s from Europe. And help the local economy as well. Hihihihi.

But this way I have no wingman, and the girls are more free to cause problems, as they are local and with such links that an european escort doesn't have.

My spanish is only beginner level.

The 2 girls are Facebook friends from Santiago (but never met up in real with them, as happens with a lot of facebook "friends") , maybe semi-pro but I don't think they are real pro's. They speak only few english. Communication problems?

But, beyond the fantasy, I have a few questions for the experts, both for economic question as well as for security questions, as I read about a scam attempt with police and legal (well, in Sosua, but I fear that could happen to me too.).

What do you think could be a correct daily price for their services? They asked 4500 pesos / day for everyone, and checking the forum I found it could be quite correct (=1st+1lt) , anyway I cannot sure have 6 "pops" a day for 15 days! ; but in my opinion the GFE factor could be worth this extra.

Your opinion?

How to pay them? I believe a daily pay could be less practical, but more secure (I fear a "no-show" or worse, an early departure, as they only have to leave and go home, something an european escort could do only with the flight extra costs.)

Do you know if such all-inclusive allows a guest change? I am not going to have my holiday ruined from a girl misbehavior, so I wish to be able to sack her and take another "friend" if I need to.

Another question. How to enforce my security about attempts of legal scams? Any opinions? I am quite scared to have problems alone and stranded in the other side of the world.

Being only one safe in the room, how to rule it out? Again, I want to be sure my money, passport and valuables will not have any undesired attentions.

One more. Which do you think could be some inexpensive bur appreciated gifts? I command respect and seriousness, but I am ready to be quite generous.

Thanks for any help!

Jetblue will have non-stop flights between New York's JFK to Cartagena, Colombia, starting November 2, 2012 (Tuesday, Friday and Sunday service only).

[QUOTE=Sturmer;1305029]I consider myself a newbie (even if I read this forum since years) , and please excuse any errors, as I'm italian, so english is only a foreign language for me. This year I have a mad idea: to come to Dominican Republic (5th travel in 10 years) , book an all-inclusive (Gran Bahia Principe Ambar is the one I am thinking about) at Punta Cana and hire 2 local girls for a 15 days long 3some. My spanish is only beginner level. The 2 girls are Facebook friends from Santiago (but never met up in real with them, as happens with a lot of facebook "friends") , maybe semi-pro but I don't think they are real pro's. They speak only few english. Communication problems? But, beyond the fantasy, I have a few questions for the experts, both for economic question as well as for security questions, as I read about a scam attempt with police and legal (well, in Sosua, but I fear that could happen to me too.). What do you think could be a correct daily price for their services? They asked 4500 pesos / day for everyone, and checking the forum I found it could be quite correct (=1st+1lt) , anyway I cannot sure have 6 "pops" a day for 15 days! ; but in my opinion the GFE factor could be worth this extra. Your opinion? How to pay them? I believe a daily pay could be less practical, but more secure (I fear a "no-show" or worse, an early departure, as they only have to leave and go home, something an european escort could do only with the flight extra costs.) Do you know if such all-inclusive allows a guest change? I am not going to have my holiday ruined from a girl misbehavior, so I wish to be able to sack her and take another "friend" if I need to. Another question. How to enforce my security about attempts of legal scams? Any opinions? I am quite scared to have problems alone and stranded in the other side of the world. Being only one safe in the room, how to rule it out? Again, I want to be sure my money, passport and valuables will not have any undesired attentions. One more. Which do you think could be some inexpensive bur appreciated gifts? I command respect and seriousness, but I am ready to be quite generous. Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]15 nights at the Gran Bahia Principe Ambar all inclusive hotel in Punta Cana, for 3 people will probably cost over $4,000US. You might get lucky with the two chicas you know from facebook and they might be excellent company, but it is not 100% a sure thing. There are numerous apartment (condo) rentals in Punta Cana and Bavaro (also villa rentals). Some condos rent out for around $100 per night. If you rented a $100 per night condo for 15 nights the cost would be $1500. Some condos have digital safes to put your passport and money. You could invite facebook amigas to visit you at your condo, if you want, pay them $100 per day, if they don't work out, send them home. You could also rent a condo for your first 5 nights in the DR, invite your amigas over to the condo, if they are nice, then you can spend your last ten nights with them at an all inclusive hotel. Chicas whom you have never met in person, to pay for them for 15 nights at an all inclusive, is something I would probably not do (I don't believe all inclusive hotels let you change the guests who will be staying in your room on a daily basis).

Ask any chicas if they have a cedula (Dominican identification card) and tell them you need to see it. Most of the DR women who I have invited over to an apartment in DR, cooked and cleaned without me asking, they offered.

There will be a new highway opening soon, connecting Punta Cana to La Romana. 4 lane highway. One of my favorite places in the DR is Bayahibe. Bayahibe is a small town with 4-5 all inclusive hotels, condo rentals and villas. Good number of Italians in Bayahibe. 10-15 minutes from Bayahibe is La Romana. La Romana has some p4p venues, as well as other bars that get non-pro and semi-pro type chicas. Bayahibe is adjacent to a large National Park so it has not been overbuilt. Beaches in Bayahibe are nice. Catalonia all inclusive hotel in bayahibe during off season is about $120US for two people, very nice all inclusive hotel. Some condo rentals are in gated complexes like Cadaques (bayahibe).

Any questions, ask.

Hi Sturmer.

Don't do it! Too many things can go wrong. With the sort of money you are looking to spend you can have a wonderful sex holiday in the DR with a different plan, one chica, two chicas or twenty, your choice. For a start, I would wait until I was here and had spent some time with the chicas before committing to them longer term. Also you might find staying in an all-inclusive hotel rather restrictive.

[QUOTE=Sturmer; 1305029]Hi to all.

I consider myself a newbie (even if I read this forum since years) , and please excuse any errors, as I'm italian, so english is only a foreign language for me.

This year I have a mad idea: to come to Dominican Republic (5th travel in 10 years) , book an all-inclusive (Gran Bahia Principe Ambar is the one I am thinking about) at Punta Cana and hire 2 local girls for a 15 days long 3some.

I chose Punta Cana because I like the sea more than Puerto Plata's one (been at Oxygen 4 years ago.) [/QUOTE]You are correct about it being a mad idea. Do not even consider it.

There is no guarantee that the two girls will get on together over 15 days, because jealousies will almost certainly break out, yet if they DO get on well together, that may be even worse as they will conspire against you to rip you off at every turn.

$4500 per day each is way too much anyway. They are not pros? Sure they are pros.

If you want, get one to visit, see if it works out, pay her a daily rate, then maybe add the other and see if it works out. But it would be crazy to make a 15-day commitment to either one.

Frannie, Mate do you react on everything written in this dr forum. Love it tough, keep that valuable info coming. Cheers

Jaosousa.

Quote Originally Posted by Sturmer [View Original Post]

I consider myself a newbie (even if I read this forum since years) , and please excuse any errors, as I'm italian, so english is only a foreign language for me. This year I have a mad idea: to come to Dominican Republic (5th travel in 10 years) , book an all-inclusive (Gran Bahia Principe Ambar is the one I am thinking about) at Punta Cana and hire 2 local girls for a 15 days long 3some. My spanish is only beginner level. The 2 girls are Facebook friends from Santiago (but never met up in real with them, as happens with a lot of facebook "friends") , maybe semi-pro but I don't think they are real pro's. They speak only few english. Communication problems? But, beyond the fantasy, I have a few questions for the experts, both for economic question as well as for security questions, as I read about a scam attempt with police and legal (well, in Sosua, but I fear that could happen to me too.). What do you think could be a correct daily price for their services? They asked 4500 pesos / day for everyone, and checking the forum I found it could be quite correct (=1st+1lt) , anyway I cannot sure have 6 "pops" a day for 15 days! ; but in my opinion the GFE factor could be worth this extra. Your opinion? How to pay them? I believe a daily pay could be less practical, but more secure (I fear a "no-show" or worse, an early departure, as they only have to leave and go home, something an european escort could do only with the flight extra costs.) Do you know if such all-inclusive allows a guest change? I am not going to have my holiday ruined from a girl misbehavior, so I wish to be able to sack her and take another "friend" if I need to. Another question. How to enforce my security about attempts of legal scams? Any opinions? I am quite scared to have problems alone and stranded in the other side of the world. Being only one safe in the room, how to rule it out? Again, I want to be sure my money, passport and valuables will not have any undesired attentions. One more. Which do you think could be some inexpensive bur appreciated gifts? I command respect and seriousness, but I am ready to be quite generous. Thanks for any help!

15 nights at the Gran Bahia Principe Ambar all inclusive hotel in Punta Cana, for 3 people will probably cost over $4, 000US. You might get lucky with the two chicas you know from facebook and they might be excellent company, but it is not 100% a sure thing. There are numerous apartment (condo) rentals in Punta Cana and Bavaro (also villa rentals). Some condos rent out for around $100 per night. If you rented a $100 per night condo for 15 nights the cost would be $1500. Some condos have digital safes to put your passport and money. You could invite facebook amigas to visit you at your condo, if you want, pay them $100 per day, if they don't work out, send them home. You could also rent a condo for your first 5 nights in the DR, invite your amigas over to the condo, if they are nice, then you can spend your last ten nights with them at an all inclusive hotel. Chicas whom you have never met in person, to pay for them for 15 nights at an all inclusive, is something I would probably not do (I don't believe all inclusive hotels let you change the guests who will be staying in your room on a daily basis).

DEAR Jaosousa, some people don't give a F% about money, so just leave them and don't try to tell them they can be off cheaper. They just want to live it large. You're prices are set for people like you, who need to watch every penny they spend (nothing wrongf with that, been there aswell and will never change BTW) But the italian guy just want to splurge let him do so. LOL, if you want italian I can arrange a bigg ass party for you for 4500 dollars. You will have an own house with an swimming pool and jacuzzi in SD and I make sure there will be at least 25 girls for TLN just all for you to make you happy. Prices for 15 days are negotiable. LOL

You have way more money then brains. Pussy in the Dr is cheap don't make expensive. Punta Cuna is not a great place for mongering. Take some time and really think about what you want to do. There are better venues for women. You can go to Black Beards and have 3 somes for 100s a night and 60 for the room. Guys like you screw up the pussy market. Take some time to educate yourself.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1307320]You are correct about it being a mad idea. Do not even consider it.

There is no guarantee that the two girls will get on together over 15 days, because jealousies will almost certainly break out, yet if they DO get on well together, that may be even worse as they will conspire against you to rip you off at every turn.

$4500 per day each is way too much anyway. They are not pros? Sure they are pros.

If you want, get one to visit, see if it works out, pay her a daily rate, then maybe add the other and see if it works out. But it would be crazy to make a 15-day commitment to either one.[/QUOTE]

For those of you who use texting and which costs money (international textings are excluded in a typical package). Quite a bit, I suggest you check out "whatsapp". It essentially uses the IP connection to send message over, thus bypassing the texting route altogether. The catch however, is that at the other end, the recipient will also have to have the app and has to have an Internet connection which many of the blackberry (smart phone) users do. But once that is done, it is like your phone number to another phone number elsewhere. Just like the free skype to skype thing. I have been using it for over a month or so.

Starting in November. 2012 [url]http://www.jetblue.com/deals/new-service/[/url] Jetblue will have new service from New York JFK to El Catey, Samana, DR (AZS). Also JFK to CTG (Cartagena, Colombia). The non-stop, round-trip JFK to CTG fare was $383US (all taxes and fees included) , when I checked a few weeks ago.

From Jetblue: "New York, NY (JFK) and Cartagena, Colombia (CTG) — Tue, Fri. And Sun. Only — November 2, 2012. New York, NY (JFK) and Samaná, DR (AZS) — Wed. And Sat. Only — November 14, 2012"

Jetblue has non-stop flights twice weekly, JFK to La Romana (LRM) on Wednesdays and Saturdays.

Some photos from the internet of Las Terrenas, Samana, Rep Dom.

[QUOTE=GreenAndYellow;1307334]DEAR Jaosousa, some people don't give a F% about money, so just leave them and don't try to tell them they can be off cheaper. They just want to live it large. You're prices are set for people like you, who need to watch every penny they spend (nothing wrongf with that, been there aswell and will never change BTW) But the italian guy just want to splurge let him do so. LOL, if you want italian I can arrange a bigg ass party for you for 4500 dollars. You will have an own house with an swimming pool and jacuzzi in SD and I make sure there will be at least 25 girls for TLN just all for you to make you happy. Prices for 15 days are negotiable. LOL[/QUOTE]The guy decided not to stay at the Gran Bahia all inclusive hotel in punta cana. The guy posted on this site asking for advice and I offered my advice.

Seems you offered him no advice, which means that you would probably think it is a good idea to pay for in advance for three people at the Punta Cana all inclusive ($4500) for himself and two women for 15 nights. Two women he has never met before and then pay each of them an additional 4500 pesos per day (9k per day for the two chicas) for 15 days.

Since you seem to paint yourself as some kind of baller know it all, point out to me where you have posted a trip report on the Dom Rep. Maybe you can't see the photos that get posted on this site, I guess you can't splurge for $20US to get a subscription membership on the ISG.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1309988]The guy decided not to stay at the Gran Bahia all inclusive hotel in punta cana. The guy posted on this site asking for advice and I offered my advice.

Seems you offered him no advice, which means that you would probably think it is a good idea to pay for in advance for three people at the Punta Cana all inclusive ($4500) for himself and two women for 15 nights. Two women he has never met before and then pay each of them an additional 4500 pesos per day (9k per day for the two chicas) for 15 days.

Since you seem to paint yourself as some kind of baller know it all, point out to me where you have posted a trip report on the Dom Rep. Maybe you can't see the photos that get posted on this site, I guess you can't splurge for $20US to get a subscription membership on the ISG.[/QUOTE]Wow dear Jaosousa, I wasn't trying to offend you in any way, but if you do feel so, excuse me for that. I was just offering the italian gelado an other option that I can arrange for him for 4500 us. A party with 25 girls for a few days, nothing more. Just another option for him to choose. OFFcourse I agree with you that it is ridiculous for him to do what he was planning to do hence the sarcasme (you get it hahaha). Yes I have enough to live quite good for myself, but I came from a place where I had nothing (north of brasil) , we didn't even had enough food for our whole family. So I know how to appreciate the money I make and therefore would never splurge or ball or whateva you want to name it. Just have fun practicing our hobby that we have in common cabron.

And BTW, I did gave the guy some advice, if he wants to spend 4500 us, let him do so. I was offering him an party in a villa with 25 girls for tln, since when is that considerd as Not giving him an option? And BTW I love your posts in the pasts but am now a bit confused about what kind of guy you are. You prob are from the us and live in the us and visit dr a few times a year. While I'm here all year round for my work for an brasilian petrol company.

[QUOTE=GreenAndYellow;1307334]DEAR Jaosousa, some people don't give a F% about money, so just leave them and don't try to tell them they can be off cheaper. They just want to live it large. You're prices are set for people like you, who need to watch every penny they spend[/QUOTE][QUOTE=GreenAndYellow;1310611]And BTW, I did gave the guy some advice, if he wants to spend 4500 us, let him do so. I was offering him an party in a villa with 25 girls for tln, since when is that considerd as Not giving him an option? And BTW I love your posts in the pasts but am now a bit confused about what kind of guy you are. You prob are from the us and live in the us and visit dr a few times a year. While I'm here all year round for my work for an brasilian petrol company.[/QUOTE]My reply to the Italian was not really about saving money, it was more about not wasting money. There is a difference between living large and living stupid. My advice to the Italian was not to pay in advance for 15 nights at an all inclusive hotel for two women, whom he never met before. Maybe you haven't stayed at an all inclusive hotel in the Dom Rep, but I'll clue you in, if you pay for 15 nights and check in with two women, all the all inclusive hotels I know of, will not let you change your guests after you have checked in with them. So if the two chicas are sick or have their period, or if the Italian doesn't like them, he can send them home, but he has already paid for 15 nights for the two chicas at the Hotel. My advice was to get to know the women first, if they are cool, then go and stay at an all inclusive hotel with them.

You are offering the guy a villa and 25 women for 1 night for $4500? Can you post photos of the villa and / or of the women?

Thanks

[QUOTE=GreenAndYellow;1310610]I was just offering the italian gelado an other option that I can arrange for him for 4500 us. A party with 25 girls for a few days, nothing more. Just another option for him to choose. OFFcourse I agree with you that it is ridiculous for him to do what he was planning to do hence the sarcasme (you get it hahaha). Yes I have enough to live quite good for myself, but I came from a place where I had nothing (north of brasil) , we didn't even had enough food for our whole family. So I know how to appreciate the money I make and therefore would never splurge or ball or whateva you want to name it. Just have fun practicing our hobby that we have in common cabron.[/QUOTE]Italian gelado? You refer to an ISG member from Italy as an Italian Gelado? Gelado is like ice cream.

You call me a Cabron? Or was the last word in your post a sign off, (I. E. Your name or a description of yourself) (A cabron is a Spanish insult that basically means a guy who knows his wife cheats on him and he doesn't do anything about it).

Are you pimping? Seems to me what you are offering is a form of Pimping. I am sure you know that Pimping is Illegal in the Dominican Republic. La Victoria prison is just north of santo domingo. Take the metro to the last stop in villa mella and then a gua gua to get to la victoria.

Please contribute something useful to this site and pay for a subscription membership, only $20US and well worth the money.

[QUOTE=Sturmer; 1305029]This year I have a mad idea: to come to Dominican Republic (5th travel in 10 years) , book an all-inclusive (Gran Bahia Principe Ambar is the one I am thinking about) at Punta Cana and hire 2 local girls for a 15 days long 3some.

My spanish is only beginner level.

The 2 girls are Facebook friends from Santiago (but never met up in real with them, as happens with a lot of facebook "friends") , maybe semi-pro but I don't think they are real pro's. They speak only few english. Communication problems?

But, beyond the fantasy, I have a few questions for the experts, both for Economic question as well as for security questions, as I read about a scam attempt with police and legal (well, in Sosua, but I fear that could happen to me too.).

What do you think could be a correct daily price for their services?

Your opinion?

How to pay them? I believe a daily pay could be less practical, but more secure (I fear a "no-show" or worse, an early departure.

Do you know if such all-inclusive allows a guest change? I am not going to have my holiday ruined from a girl misbehavior, so I wish to be able to sack her and take another "friend" if I need to.

Another question. How to enforce my security about attempts of legal scams? Any opinions? I am quite scared to have problems alone and stranded in the other side of the world.

Being only one safe in the room, how to rule it out? Again, I want to be sure my money, passport and valuables will not have any undesired attentions.

One more. Which do you think could be some inexpensive bur appreciated gifts? I command respect and seriousness, but I am ready to be quite generous.

Thanks for any help![/QUOTE][QUOTE=GreenAndYellow;1307334]DEAR Jaosousa, some people don't give a F% about money, so just leave them and don't try to tell them they can be off cheaper.[/QUOTE]GreenAndYellow did you respond to any of the questions that ISG member Sturmer asked? (I imagine English is not your native language, you say you are from Brazil). If the guy didn't give a f_ck about money, why would he ask Economic type questions?

I offered Sturmer advice and NEVER told him what to do or what to spend. Who the f_ck are you to tell me what advice I can offer to another ISG member. You are a guy with no DR trip reports and you can't spend $20US to get a subscription membership on the ISG.

[QUOTE=GreenAndYellow;1307334]You're prices are set for people like you, who need to watch every penny they spend[/QUOTE]My prices? What are you referring to? In my reply to Sturmer I said condos can be rented for $100US per night in Punta Cana. The condos where I have stayed in the DR have been multiple chica friendly. So if Sturmer didn't like a particular chica or chicas, he could send them home and invite others. Sturmer mentioned the gran bahia all inclusive hotel in Punta Cana, which is a middle priced hotel in punta cana. There are other all inclusive hotels in Punta Cana that are much more expensive than the gran bahia. If money was not an issue, I would guess most people would choose the most expensive all inclusive hotel. There are villas in DR that rent for thousands of dollars per night. If the original poster said, price didn't matter, then maybe I would give him info on very expensive villas. I don't set prices in the DR and what Sturmer wanted to do, I would probably never do in the DR, so when you say my prices, I believe you are talking out of the part of your body where the sun doesn't shine.

[QUOTE=GreenAndYellow;1310610]cabron.[/QUOTE]Cabron? If you are determined to post insults on an English language website I suggest you take English reading and writing lessons. (Brazilians speak Portuguese, why would you use a Spanish word like cabron, to try and insult someone on an English language website and not a Portuguese word).

I think the gentleman needed some monger insite. Part of being a good monger is managing your money. It was obvious this guy was clueless. Joa gave him food for thought. He was thinking of making major mistakes. Joa gave him options that could save him money and enhance his vacations. Why pay 100 dollars for a 10 dolar prize. This guy needs some one to advise him.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1311057]GreenAndYellow did you respond to any of the questions that ISG member Sturmer asked? (I imagine English is not your native language, you say you are from Brazil). If the guy didn't give a f_ck about money, why would he ask Economic type questions?

I offered Sturmer advice and NEVER told him what to do or what to spend. Who the f_ck are you to tell me what advice I can offer to another ISG member. You are a guy with no DR trip reports and you can't spend $20US to get a subscription membership on the ISG.

My prices? What are you referring to? In my reply to Sturmer I said condos can be rented for $100US per night in Punta Cana. The condos where I have stayed in the DR have been multiple chica friendly. So if Sturmer didn't like a particular chica or chicas, he could send them home and invite others. Sturmer mentioned the gran bahia all inclusive hotel in Punta Cana, which is a middle priced hotel in punta cana. There are other all inclusive hotels in Punta Cana that are much more expensive than the gran bahia. If money was not an issue, I would guess most people would choose the most expensive all inclusive hotel. There are villas in DR that rent for thousands of dollars per night. If the original poster said, price didn't matter, then maybe I would give him info on very expensive villas. I don't set prices in the DR and what Sturmer wanted to do, I would probably never do in the DR, so when you say my prices, I believe you are talking out of the part of your body where the sun doesn't shine.

Cabron? If you are determined to post insults on an English language website I suggest you take English reading and writing lessons. (Brazilians speak Portuguese, why would you use a Spanish word like cabron, to try and insult someone on an English language website and not a Portuguese word).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1311057]GreenAndYellow did you respond to any of the questions that ISG member Sturmer asked? (I imagine English is not your native language, you say you are from Brazil). If the guy didn't give a f_ck about money, why would he ask Economic type questions?

Thats True!

I offered Sturmer advice and NEVER told him what to do or what to spend. Who the f_ck are you to tell me what advice I can offer to another ISG member. You are a guy with no DR trip reports and you can't spend $20US to get a subscription membership on the ISG.

You're a firecracker relax dude, do you have shares or what, stop harassing me.

My prices? What are you referring to? In my reply to Sturmer I said condos can be rented for $100US per night in Punta Cana. The condos where I have stayed in the DR have been multiple chica friendly. So if Sturmer didn't like a particular chica or chicas, he could send them home and invite others. Sturmer mentioned the gran bahia all inclusive hotel in Punta Cana, which is a middle priced hotel in punta cana. There are other all inclusive hotels in Punta Cana that are much more expensive than the gran bahia. If money was not an issue, I would guess most people would choose the most expensive all inclusive hotel. There are villas in DR that rent for thousands of dollars per night. If the original poster said, price didn't matter, then maybe I would give him info on very expensive villas. I don't set prices in the DR and what Sturmer wanted to do, I would probably never do in the DR, so when you say my prices, I believe you are talking out of the part of your body where the sun doesn't shine.

Actually that last part was pretty funny dude!

Cabron? If you are determined to post insults on an English language website I suggest you take English reading and writing lessons. (Brazilians speak Portuguese, why would you use a Spanish word like cabron, to try and insult someone on an English language website and not a Portuguese word).[/QUOTE]Hmm, cause the way you react thats exactly what you are, and BTW how the F# are you coming to me trying to tell me what gelado means. Its portugeas / italian slang you idiot but thats something that you will never get, you wannabe. Now just chill out Jaou, I get your point. Lets keep it to information over here, I'm not here for making other people look bad, I'm just here for getting info and spreading info. You get it.

Thanks OldKool for explaining your pov.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1311021]Italian gelado? You refer to an ISG member from Italy as an Italian Gelado? Gelado is like ice cream.

You call me a Cabron? Or was the last word in your post a sign off, (I. E. Your name or a description of yourself) (A cabron is a Spanish insult that basically means a guy who knows his wife cheats on him and he doesn't do anything about it).

Are you pimping? Seems to me what you are offering is a form of Pimping. I am sure you know that Pimping is Illegal in the Dominican Republic. La Victoria prison is just north of santo domingo. Take the metro to the last stop in villa mella and then a gua gua to get to la victoria.

Please contribute something useful to this site and pay for a subscription membership, only $20US and well worth the money.[/QUOTE]AND HOW can you comeon this board trying to teach me my own language, it means something that you will never understand cause judging your posts you're attacking the whole time. , would love to meet you up here someweher to explain you what it means. Lets keep it classy over here, I'm not trying to teach you any english am I. LOL, And please lets keep it respectfull ok.

[QUOTE=GreenAndYellow;1311346]AND HOW can you comeon this board trying to teach me my own language, it means something that you will never understand cause judging your posts you're attacking the whole time. , would love to meet you up here someweher to explain you what it means. Lets keep it classy over here, I'm not trying to teach you any english am I. LOL, And please lets keep it respectfull ok.[/QUOTE]Gelato is like Italian ice cream (correction). According to a few translation sites on the internet the Portuguese word gelado could mean icy or ice. The ISG is an English Language site. Maybe there exists a Portuguese language site where you might be welcomed to write Portuguese slang. Last time I checked the owner of this site doesn't want slang used here and he also wants foreign words to appear with an English translation (maybe you could read the forum rules). He also forbids threats of violence and other behavior that is highly unsocial.

I always post when and where I will in the Dom Rep on this site, so you will easily be able to find me in the Dominican Republic. I meet any and all ISG members in person in the Dom Rep. Cabron and ignorant are two words you have used here towards me (over the internet). In person let's see if you use the same vocabulary.

Looks like you paid the owner of this site $20US, thanks.

Some good looking women it the photos Jao! What is the p4p scene like in LT? Or is it more of a semi pro scene? Is there bus service there from PP? 2 or 3 hour ride? Thanks!

Some photos from the internet of Las Terrenas, Samana, Rep Dom.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Brother P;1311371]What is the p4p scene like in LT? Is there bus service there from PP? 2 or 3 hour ride?[/QUOTE]I think more like 5 hours. One bus (or van) per day leaves around 7. 00am from the Hospital. I don't think it goes all the way to Las Terrena though. You may have to take a local guagua or taxi for the last leg.

Thank you sir! Useful info as always. Any insight on th p4p situation?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1311419]I think more like 5 hours. One bus (or van) per day leaves around 7. 00am from the Hospital. I don't think it goes all the way to Las Terrena though. You may have to take a local guagua or taxi for the last leg.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1311419]I think more like 5 hours. One bus (or van) per day leaves around 7. 00am from the Hospital. I don't think it goes all the way to Las Terrena though. You may have to take a local guagua or taxi for the last leg.[/QUOTE]As usual Sir Pooter your input is current and spot on.

The bus terminates in the city of Samana. To get to Las Terranas you have to get off at Sanchez and go over the mountain on a gua-gus.

[QUOTE=Brother P;1311429]Thank you sir! Useful info as always. Any insight on th p4p situation?[/QUOTE]Never been myself, but two friends have recently and enjoyed themselves. There is P4P but limited numbers and not so in-your-face as in Sosua. Enough to keep you happy for 3 or 4 days anyway. Lots of haitianas there.

If you are crazy enough or hardy enough to take that bus or people-carrier, please check the departure time because it could be earlier or later than 7.00am. I know it is early though.

[QUOTE=Brother P; 1311371]Some good looking women it the photos Jao! What is the p4p scene like in LT? Or is it more of a semi pro scene? Is there bus service there from PP? 2 or 3 hour ride? Thanks!

Some photos from the internet of Las Terrenas, Samana, Rep Dom.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Fata Morgana Guest House rents rooms in Las Terrenas starting at $15US per night [url]http://www.fatamorganalasterrenas.com/Travelinformation.html[/url] From their webpage: "Puerto Plata. Las Terrenas, This is a tricky one. There is only ONE direct bus from Puerto Plata to Las Terrenas, or as they call it La Terrena, (people in Samana do not pronounce the ss). This bus leaves Puerto Plata at 1. 30 pm and passes Sosua half and hour later and Cabarete 45 minutes later. For Sosua and Cabarete you will have to stand in the main road and flag it down. Look for a bus with Puerto Plata. La Terrena in the window. Time 3. 5 hours, costs about 10 us or 8 Euro. However, there are 2 buses in the morning, one called El Canario, at 6. 00 am leaving Puerto Plata, the other El Papagayo leaves half and hour later. 6.30 am heading for Samana. You will have to get of the bus in Sanchez and take the guagua (local bus, usually a pickup truck) for the last half and hour over the hill (costs 2 us or 1 Euro)."

Also: " Samana or Sanchez-Las Terrenas, Every 20 minutes leaves a guagua (local bus) until dusk." Also the schedule for Transport Samana.

Hi,

Please don't flame about my ideas. I don't want to see a struggle about me!

I missed the website for a week, and I didn't expected such a reaction from my post.

Sorry.

Jaososua, thanks for Your help and defense.

GreenAnd Yellow: well, maybe we aren't so different by origin, me too have to raise my money from hard work, and not from parents or lottery, so I believe to be quite money conscious, even if it doesn't appear so.

Maybe You missed the fact that I am going to pay the girls 4500 Pesos / day, sure not 4500 USD / day! It would be crazy! For this sum I could hire even 2 or 3 of the better europeans pornstars!

So, really it is about 100 euro / day, and it seems to me that it is more or less the sum You can pay at BB for an ST+LT.

Could be an high or low sum, it depends, but I wish to have something more than a "fuck-and-go", a few intimacy and companionship, and maybe also 2 (anyway interested) friends to stroll me around and let me know the real Road, outside all inclusive hotels and arranged tours.

And, yes, I already know one of the 2 girls from a previous travel at Oxygen (that was a lot more crazy!).

I know that one is a 100% prepago, her girlfriend maybe a 75% prepago with a normal cover work.

Not sure this could work well, but, again, I try to limit the risks, and pose a little step in finding local chicas.

I believe that many of the flames depend from the incorrect currency you though about. But if I'm wrong, feel free to contact me and for the same sum I give them, I will accept your villa and "hip-hop rapper guy" offer!

Joking!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=GreenAndYellow; 1307334]Jaosousa.

Quote Originally Posted by Sturmer [View Original Post]

I consider myself a newbie (even if I read this forum since years) , and please excuse any errors, as I'm italian, so english is only a foreign language for me. This year I have a mad idea: to come to Dominican Republic (5th travel in 10 years) , book an all-inclusive (Gran Bahia Principe Ambar is the one I am thinking about) at Punta Cana and hire 2 local girls for a 15 days long 3some. My spanish is only beginner level. The 2 girls are Facebook friends from Santiago (but never met up in real with them, as happens with a lot of facebook "friends") , maybe semi-pro but I don't think they are real pro's. They speak only few english. Communication problems? But, beyond the fantasy, I have a few questions for the experts, both for economic question as well as for security questions, as I read about a scam attempt with police and legal (well, in Sosua, but I fear that could happen to me too.). What do you think could be a correct daily price for their services? They asked 4500 pesos / day for everyone, and checking the forum I found it could be quite correct (=1st+1lt) , anyway I cannot sure have 6 "pops" a day for 15 days! ; but in my opinion the GFE factor could be worth this extra. Your opinion? How to pay them? I believe a daily pay could be less practical, but more secure (I fear a "no-show" or worse, an early departure, as they only have to leave and go home, something an european escort could do only with the flight extra costs.) Do you know if such all-inclusive allows a guest change? I am not going to have my holiday ruined from a girl misbehavior, so I wish to be able to sack her and take another "friend" if I need to. Another question. How to enforce my security about attempts of legal scams? Any opinions? I am quite scared to have problems alone and stranded in the other side of the world. Being only one safe in the room, how to rule it out? Again, I want to be sure my money, passport and valuables will not have any undesired attentions. One more. Which do you think could be some inexpensive bur appreciated gifts? I command respect and seriousness, but I am ready to be quite generous. Thanks for any help!

15 nights at the Gran Bahia Principe Ambar all inclusive hotel in Punta Cana, for 3 people will probably cost over $4, 000US. You might get lucky with the two chicas you know from facebook and they might be excellent company, but it is not 100% a sure thing. There are numerous apartment (condo) rentals in Punta Cana and Bavaro (also villa rentals). Some condos rent out for around $100 per night. If you rented a $100 per night condo for 15 nights the cost would be $1500. Some condos have digital safes to put your passport and money. You could invite facebook amigas to visit you at your condo, if you want, pay them $100 per day, if they don't work out, send them home. You could also rent a condo for your first 5 nights in the DR, invite your amigas over to the condo, if they are nice, then you can spend your last ten nights with them at an all inclusive hotel. Chicas whom you have never met in person, to pay for them for 15 nights at an all inclusive, is something I would probably not do (I don't believe all inclusive hotels let you change the guests who will be staying in your room on a daily basis).

DEAR Jaosousa, some people don't give a F% about money, so just leave them and don't try to tell them they can be off cheaper. They just want to live it large. You're prices are set for people like you, who need to watch every penny they spend (nothing wrongf with that, been there aswell and will never change BTW) But the italian guy just want to splurge let him do so. LOL, if you want italian I can arrange a bigg ass party for you for 4500 dollars. You will have an own house with an swimming pool and jacuzzi in SD and I make sure there will be at least 25 girls for TLN just all for you to make you happy. Prices for 15 days are negotiable. LOL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Fata Morgana Guest House rents rooms in Las Terrenas starting at $15US per night.

[url]http://www.fatamorganalasterrenas.com/Travelinformation.html[/url]

From their webpage: "Puerto Plata. Las Terrenas, This is a tricky one. There is only ONE direct bus from Puerto Plata to Las Terrenas, or as they call it La Terrena, (people in Samana do not pronounce the ss). This bus leaves Puerto Plata at 1. 30 pm and passes Sosua half and hour later and Cabarete 45 minutes later. For Sosua and Cabarete you will have to stand in the main road and flag it down. Look for a bus with Puerto Plata. La Terrena in the window. Time 3. 5 hours, costs about 10 us or 8 Euro. However, there are 2 buses in the morning, one called El Canario, at 6. 00 am leaving Puerto Plata, the other El Papagayo leaves half and hour later. 6.30 am heading for Samana. You will have to get of the bus in Sanchez and take the guagua (local bus, usually a pickup truck) for the last half and hour over the hill (costs 2 us or 1 Euro)."

Also: " Samana or Sanchez-Las Terrenas, Every 20 minutes leaves a guagua (local bus) until dusk." Also the schedule for Transport Samana.[/QUOTE]Great info, Jaosousa. Thanks. I would still advise the OP to double-check the day before as things can change fast in the DR.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1311568]Great info, Jaosousa. Thanks. I would still advise the OP to double-check the day before as things can change fast in the DR.[/QUOTE]I agree, good advice.

The woman who runs that guest house in las terrenas, supposedly speaks 5 languages, from the webpage for that guesthouse "Edit, a 22 year resident of the Dominican Republic and tour guide by profession, speaks 5 languages. Herself an avid traveler of the Dominican Republic is always available to answer your questions about tours, transport and the latest hot spots." The phone number for the guest house is: Telephone 809-836-5541 or 809-240-9602. Someone heading to las terrenas, could give them a call and ask about transport. The guest house looks cute, price is good, under $20US.

Here is a video [url]http://youtu.be/aaXRLV-5eEU[/url] That ISG member Flaco Loco made during his trip between Puerto Plata and Las Terrenas (La Gua Gua). The music playing in his video [url]http://youtu.be/zF-1ve6RPbM[/url] Is "Plomo, Plomo" (some attractive women in the music video for that song, available in 1080p HD).

Once again thanks to all for your input. I did some searching online. It seems Las Terranas is a two hour bus ride from Santo Domingo. Cost is $350 pesos. So it seems I'd be better off making that a side trip to a Santo Domingo adventure. Maybe after NewYears. I'll be sure to post a report! I have a map of the island, and it appears to be closer to PP, but I guess I need a map reading course! LOL!

[QUOTE=Brother P;1311665]Once again thanks to all for your input. I did some searching online. It seems Las Terranas is a two hour bus ride from Santo Domingo. Cost is $350 pesos. So it seems I'd be better off making that a side trip to a Santo Domingo adventure. Maybe after NewYears. I'll be sure to post a report! I have a map of the island, and it appears to be closer to PP, but I guess I need a map reading course! LOL![/QUOTE]I drove, about 4 years ago, from Sosua to Laguna Gri-Gri with a stop in Rio San Juan (probably an hour drive east of Sosua. Samana and Las Terrenas is also east of Sosua). During that drive I drove through some towns and forests and farmland. Some photos that were taken with my camera during that drive.

[QUOTE=Sturmer; 1311513]Hi,

Please don't flame about my ideas. I don't want to see a struggle about me!

I missed the website for a week, and I didn't expected such a reaction from my post.

Sorry.

Jaososua, thanks for Your help and defense.

GreenAnd Yellow: well, maybe we aren't so different by origin, me too have to raise my money from hard work, and not from parents or lottery, so I believe to be quite money conscious, even if it doesn't appear so.

Maybe You missed the fact that I am going to pay the girls 4500 Pesos / day, sure not 4500 USD / day! It would be crazy! For this sum I could hire even 2 or 3 of the better europeans pornstars!

So, really it is about 100 euro / day, and it seems to me that it is more or less the sum You can pay at BB for an ST+LT.

Could be an high or low sum, it depends, but I wish to have something more than a "fuck-and-go", a few intimacy and companionship, and maybe also 2 (anyway interested) friends to stroll me around and let me know the real Road, outside all inclusive hotels and arranged tours.

And, yes, I already know one of the 2 girls from a previous travel at Oxygen (that was a lot more crazy!).

I know that one is a 100% prepago, her girlfriend maybe a 75% prepago with a normal cover work.

Not sure this could work well, but, again, I try to limit the risks, and pose a little step in finding local chicas.

I believe that many of the flames depend from the incorrect currency you though about. But if I'm wrong, feel free to contact me and for the same sum I give them, I will accept your villa and "hip-hop rapper guy" offer!

Joking!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Hi Sturmer, thanks for the posts, its alll a bit more clear to me now due to the peso / dollar thing.

Joau I'm another time sorry for the words I used to you, didn't mean in no way to offense you, I realize that my answer to sturmer could be better written in better english so everybody could understand what I was trying to tell.

Jaou, no hard feelings, would love to meet you one day to switch info, you seem like a good guy who got a lot of info, and I would love to learn from your experiences, hell maybe I can tell you some of mine aswell. Once again if you feel offended by my I'm sorry. I'm just here to gather info and to spread info.

I've read a lot more of your posts and they are really usefull, thanks for all the good posts, am going to LT very soon and this info that you posted jaou is very helpful. Please guys lets keep the info coming to help each other

[QUOTE=GreenAndYellow;1311974]Joau I'm another time sorry for the words I used to you, didn't mean in no way to offense you,[/QUOTE]All is forgotten, water under the bridge.

I was in las terrenas a number of years, for the weekend, stayed at the gran bahia principe el portillo all inclusive hotel, with an amiga from santo domingo. She took me to playa rincon, which is about an hour from las terrenas. Playa Rincon is a beautiful beach, that also has a fresh water stream where tourists and locals go swimming.

Two hotels that look nice in las terrenas, [url]http://aliseihotelspa.com/[/url] Hotel alisei I saw and ate at their restaurant, which was staffed with some people from Argentina, food was good. I drove by [url]http://www.ladolcevitaresidence.com/[/url] La dolce vita hotel (the sweet life) and it looks like a nice hotel. Villas, apartments and other hotels in las terrenas."Bufeo com" has the schedule of upcoming events in different places in the DR (also lots of photos on bufeo com) , you might consider going to las terrenas, when their is a concert there.

I hope to return to the DR in September, the drinks are on me, in plaza espana in zona colonial, happy hour for really good mojitos in a restaurant there, with outdoor seating, I'll invite some amigas to join us, LOL. (a caiperinha is similar to a mojito I believe and cachaça is alcohol made from sugar cane as is Dominican rum).

Photos I took, las terrenas, el portillo, samana bay and playa rincon.

Using this link [url]https://www.dgii.gov.do/Tturistaweb/Checkout-en[/url] You can purchase the $10US tourist card, that you need, to enter the immigration checkpoint area for arrivals at DR airports. From the DR Government webpage: "All residents, visa holders, or Dominican nationals are exempted from the Tourist Card as well as nationals from the following countries: Argentina, Chili, South Korea, Ecuador, Israel, Japan, Peru and Uruguay."

I wonder if there are hostels in DR. In Colombia this area has grown fast and there are now a network of hostels covering the whole country.

I also wonder if one can rent an apartment for 1-2 months.

I speak very good Spanish.

I Go for the girls of course, but also to know a beautiful country.

One girl I chatted with from DR said there still is much violence.

I'm happy with daytime activities and maybe going out for dinner in a "good area". Nightlife, while being drunk and taking a false cab should be the biggest risk I think.

I read that taxis are not formal yellow / black like in most countries, so going buy taxi needs precautions, maybe they have radio-taxi companies?

I would be greatful for info. And advise from persons with experiences of any kind, living there, etc.

Don't follow my ideas. The 2 girls arrived one day late, stayed 2 days and asked more money. I refused, so they left this morning.

Wish to have followed your suggestions as the hotel doesn't allow for guests changes. I am working on this, maybe buying some discounted day guests pass as I have the room.

For your info. Beware a girl name flory perla de los santos. Know her from oxygen where she worked. Do not hire her longtime or anyway at your own risk. Again don't follow my foolishness.

[QUOTE=GreenAndYellow; 1311974]Hi Sturmer, thanks for the posts, its alll a bit more clear to me now due to the peso / dollar thing.

Joau I'm another time sorry for the words I used to you, didn't mean in no way to offense you, I realize that my answer to sturmer could be better written in better english so everybody could understand what I was trying to tell.

Jaou, no hard feelings, would love to meet you one day to switch info, you seem like a good guy who got a lot of info, and I would love to learn from your experiences, hell maybe I can tell you some of mine aswell. Once again if you feel offended by my I'm sorry. I'm just here to gather info and to spread info.

I've read a lot more of your posts and they are really usefull, thanks for all the good posts, am going to LT very soon and this info that you posted jaou is very helpful. Please guys lets keep the info coming to help each other[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1313726]I wonder if there are hostels in DR. In Colombia this area has grown fast and there are now a network of hostels covering the whole country.

I also wonder if one can rent an apartment for 1-2 months.

I speak very good Spanish.

I Go for the girls of course, but also to know a beautiful country.

One girl I chatted with from DR said there still is much violence.

I'm happy with daytime activities and maybe going out for dinner in a "good area". Nightlife, while being drunk and taking a false cab should be the biggest risk I think.

I read that taxis are not formal yellow / black like in most countries, so going buy taxi needs precautions, maybe they have radio-taxi companies?

I would be greatful for info. And advise from persons with experiences of any kind, living there, etc.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of taxi companies in DR. The most common I think is Apollo and you can call and they will come get you, very reasonable rates. I will look for the number and post it. It already maybe posted on the forum.

If you find a Taxi you feel you can trust, it is easily arranged for him to meet you at a club or any location ahead of time. There are many apartments for rent, check Jaosousa's posts as he puts up all that type of info, including pictures.

[QUOTE=Sturmer; 1313755]Don't follow my ideas. The 2 girls arrived one day late, stayed 2 days and asked more money. I refused, so they left this morning.

Wish to have followed your suggestions as the hotel doesn't allow for guests changes. I am working on this, maybe buying some discounted day guests pass as I have the room.

For your info. Beware a girl name flory perla de los santos. Know her from oxygen where she worked. Do not hire her longtime or anyway at your own risk. Again don't follow my foolishness.[/QUOTE]You were right the first time about it being a mad idea, but you deserve kudos for admitting that you failed to follow advice given here by several posters. But the good thing is that others can learn from this and not make the same mistake.

Here's what I wrote before:

[red]You are correct about it being a mad idea. Do not even consider it.

There is no guarantee that the two girls will get on together over 15 days, because jealousies will almost certainly break out, yet if they DO get on well together, that may be even worse as they will conspire against you to rip you off at every turn.

$4500 per day each is way too much anyway. They are not pros? Sure they are pros.

If you want, get one to visit, see if it works out, pay her a daily rate, then maybe add the other and see if it works out. But it would be crazy to make a 15-day commitment to either one. [/red]

[QUOTE=Sturmer;1313755]Don't follow my ideas.[/QUOTE]I don't think there was ever the slightest risk of anyone else following your ideas.

We all have our own methods and preferences here, and debates can get quiet heated and bitter. So when everyone, vets and newbies, high-rollers and cheapskates, and from various nationalities, uniformly counsel against a certain course of action, the chances are it is not a winner.

Hope you can salvage something from this holiday and that your next one is awesome.

Most people just do not listen. We were almost unanimous in our rejection of your plan. You broke all the rules and got the results. Having lots of money can over come many challenges. Heeding sage advice can save you money and enhance your oppurtunity. Good luck in the futur.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1313892]I don't think there was ever the slightest risk of anyone else following your ideas.

We all have our own methods and preferences here, and debates can get quiet heated and bitter. So when everyone, vets and newbies, high-rollers and cheapskates, and from various nationalities, uniformly counsel against a certain course of action, the chances are it is not a winner.

Hope you can salvage something from this holiday and that your next one is awesome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1313726]I'm happy with daytime activities and maybe going out for dinner in a "good area". Nightlife, while being drunk and taking a false cab should be the biggest risk I think.

I read that taxis are not formal yellow / black like in most countries, so going buy taxi needs precautions, maybe they have radio-taxi companies?[/QUOTE]Apolo Taxi 809 537-0000.

Again you are right at all but the agreed sum was 100 euro per day and not 4500. But this is only for sake of correctness.

QUOTE=Frannie; 1313886]You were right the first time about dvice given here by several posters. But the good thing is that others can learn from this and not make the same mistake.

Here's what I wrote before:

[red]You are correct about it being a mad idea. Do not even consider it.

There is no guarantee that the two girls will get on together over 15 days, because jealousies will almost certainly break out, yet if they DO get on well together, that may be even worse as they will conspire against you to rip you off at every turn.

$4500 per day each is way too much anyway. They are not pros? Sure they are pros.

If you want, get one to visit, see if it works out, pay her a daily rate, then maybe add the other and see if it works out. But it would be crazy to make a 15-day commitment to either one. [/red][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sturmer; 1314121]Again you are right at all but the agreed sum was 100 euro per day and not 4500. But this is only for sake of correctness.

QUOTE=Frannie; 1313886]You were right the first time about dvice given here by several posters. But the good thing is that others can learn from this and not make the same mistake.

Here's what I wrote before:

[red]You are correct about it being a mad idea. Do not even consider it.

There is no guarantee that the two girls will get on together over 15 days, because jealousies will almost certainly break out, yet if they DO get on well together, that may be even worse as they will conspire against you to rip you off at every turn.

$4500 per day each is way too much anyway. They are not pros? Sure they are pros.

If you want, get one to visit, see if it works out, pay her a daily rate, then maybe add the other and see if it works out. But it would be crazy to make a 15-day commitment to either one. [/red][/QUOTE][/QUOTE]The euro has fallen a bit, but 100 euro is still about equal to about RD$4500. Anyway, the problem is not the amount, but the idea of making an advance commitment to pay it for 15 days. Of course your money is your money and you can do what you want with it. My issue was more that getting two girls together for a threesome for 15 days is a notion that has about zero degrees of likelihood of success.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1314240]My issue was more that getting two girls together for a threesome for 15 days is a notion that has about zero degrees of likelihood of success.[/QUOTE]The guy knows he fucked up and has come on here to admit as much openly. I give him a lot of credit for that. I am sure a lot of our "perfect monger" regular posters don't have the balls to own up to their mistakes. Let's all move on and wish him a super trip next time.

Sturmer, don't worry, whateveer don't kills you makes you only stronger. I hope Jaou is reading aswell, I'm waiting fro his reply upon this what happenede. Thanks for the invite BTW Jaou I will be in sep in SDW aswell, Hit me up PM, would like to meet you and have some Caipiroska's (my favo drink). Lets face it we all been threw some stupid things and learning from it. The persons who says he doesn't thats the one who is lying. I've been to so many things that my friends didint advice, but back then I was just young and stubborn. Please read the forum good and try to learn from the advices. And yes people please keep them coming.

To all have fun during our escapades. I'm sorry for my english but it won't get any better than this. LOL

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1314312]The guy knows he fucked up and has come on here to admit as much openly. I give him a lot of credit for that. I am sure a lot of our "perfect monger" regular posters don't have the balls to own up to their mistakes. Let's all move on and wish him a super trip next time.[/QUOTE]Just want to tell people, Pooter is right here, how many of you come here only telling about the good times but forget to tell about the bad things which happened to them. We learn from other peoples mistakes so let them write alot of reports aswell. Sturmer take care, I hope you enjoy the rest of your trip.

Dominican Cupid. I met girls in every city all over the coutry. Some of them cute, but none looked like their fotos. Was that picture of you taken when you were 16, and 30 pounds lighter? But real sweethearts for the most part. One brown pretty one, Ramonita, even proposed to me via text message. So cute. I'd post some pictures, but for some reason my computer won't load. That country not that good for whoring in my view in the month I spent. Perfect weather though, and great beaches. Super nice people. Safe. Gas $7 dollars a gallon. No English.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1307750]For those of you who use texting and which costs money (international textings are excluded in a typical package). Quite a bit, I suggest you check out "whatsapp". It essentially uses the IP connection to send message over, thus bypassing the texting route altogether. The catch however, is that at the other end, the recipient will also have to have the app and has to have an Internet connection which many of the blackberry (smart phone) users do. But once that is done, it is like your phone number to another phone number elsewhere. Just like the free skype to skype thing. I have been using it for over a month or so.[/QUOTE]It works good [url]http://www.whatsapp.com/[/url] Just need a wifi internet connection for a cell phone and you can send messages, photos and videos for free, to another cell phone with whatsapp messenger installed and that also has a wifi internet connection. Of course the DR women using whatsapp messenger can send messages, photos and videos for free to your cell phone (your cell installed with whatsapp and a wifi connection).

Thanks.

Hi again,

Well you were right. I will post a complete report when back home. Sadly this mobile is so awkward to write a lot. What scammed me most was the hardening my contact puta has endured in 4years. As was her to scam the idea. I will explain more later.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1314240][/QUOTE]The euro has fallen a bit, but 100 euro is still about equal to about RD$4500. Anyway, the problem is not the amount, but the idea of making an advance commitment to pay it for 15 days. Of course your money is your money and you can do what you want with it. My issue was more that getting two girls together for a threesome for 15 days is a notion that has about zero degrees of likelihood of success.[/QUOTE]

Well, here we are with my final report.

I learned some lessons.

1) NEVER TRUST A working girl!

2) NEVER DO WHAT OTHER MORE EXPERIENCED MONGERS TELL YOU TO BE JUST A CRAZY IDEA.

At the end. My damn idea was ill conceived, as I am been thinking with my little brother.

I don't want to bother you again with the whole story. If interested please read my previous posts and comments.

At the end the scam damage was 700 USD for the other girls daily guests passes in the hotel.

The saddest thing is that the girl who scammed me was the only one I already know in person.

Beware of her. Her real name is Perla Flory de Los Santos, from Santo Domingo.

I will post a memo in the santo domingo just to avoid double reports.

Her photo is 3 years old, now she has some more kgs on her, but anyway quite cute, sad that her behavior isn't at all professional or anyway correct at all and she doesn't respect previous agreements.

The fact is that she tried to blackmail me asking double the previously agreed price.

No way I am going to be blackmailed by anyone, less than all by a working girl. No way baby.

So she left, and sadly she took with her that cute girlfriend I couldn't know enough.

So, beware, avoid my mistake, don't even think to hire her for anything long than a night.

Hi. Well. Sorry but the time zone adjustment is still killing me.

I wish to publicy thanks Mr Charles Pooter and Jao Sosua for their help and suggestions and the time Mr. Charles spent teaching me the local area.

Hope I didn't appeared overly dumb. Sadly my english is not enough to understand correctly. And I didn't wanted to have you to repeat all.

And, the same thanks too to Mr. J of FOD, for the time and the waooo interesting sightseeings in his hotel.

I dreamed about some of the girls I saw there.

Sorry I hadn't moved in my last days, I was really upset and bad mood for all that happened in this ill-cursed holidays.

Wish you the best luck. And don't forget the ideas I told you!

Now I can tell you why I hadn't moved.

I was mainly worried to move as I feared legal problems from the scammer girl, so I preferred to stay at the booked hotel just to check for them (luckily, they were just an idea.)

Now I know I was overreacting, but receiving, just 3 day after the girls left, a facebook friend's request from an unknown ugly 50-years-old female lawyer (bisexual and from the same city of one of the 2 girls) , just put me on alert mode. And the facts that the exact same day the blackmailer resigned from facebook and the lawyer didn't even answered to my questions just added a lot to my usual "check your six" mode.

From where the hell she took my name is still an unsolved question.

Anyway, just for your info, even if a contact resign from facebook, the previous messages stay. As an exhibit just in case.

Peace. And a lot of love!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1307750]For those of you who use texting and which costs money (international textings are excluded in a typical package). Quite a bit, I suggest you check out "whatsapp". It essentially uses the IP connection to send message over, thus bypassing the texting route altogether. The catch however, is that at the other end, the recipient will also have to have the app and has to have an Internet connection which many of the blackberry (smart phone) users do. But once that is done, it is like your phone number to another phone number elsewhere. Just like the free skype to skype thing. I have been using it for over a month or so.[/QUOTE]Another good option is Pinger. You can download it to a smart phone or use a computer, either way it's completely free. You get a local (USA) phone number for sending and receiving texts and it sends them out using the internet, thus bypassing texting charges. The person receiving the text does not need the app. I've texted lots of chicas this way without problems.

6 Main Reasons why Expats are selling up and leaving the Dominican Republic.

'Everything is for sale! '

Reasons for leaving:

1) To renew either their temporary or permanent residency's, has become a big dirty let-down by the government, as they are now going back on their past promises of supplying Gringo's either their up-coming 'permanent residency' or to renew actual permanent residency's without too much hassle or lawyers involvement. Gringo's are now asked to re-supply all their documents as a 'cover-up' by the Governments immigration, who's lost thousands of foreigners records both on their PC's and papers I. E. Birth certificates, police records etc. And everyone is now being kicked back to zero, having to prove clean police record, re-do all the medicals, find witnesses of good character and supply proof of financial independence – and some would even have to travel back to their home country to receive new birth certificates (I. E. Russia, Ukraine etc.) – in other words a lot hassle, unfair expenses, frustration and life interrupting nonsense!

2) They are sick of being manipulated by the Government Owned power company, who especially with property owners, can use their monopoly position to violate customers in every nasty way possible. If you have been to pay your power bill a few times, then you would be sure to hear higly upset customers who have suddenly received some ridiculously high power bill or business owners being victims of ridiculous ongoing charges (and law suits if they don't keep paying!). According to some locals latest frustrations, the power company is now getting really sophisticated in ripping us all off, as they are now replacing our existing 'meters' with some new ones that effect our power bill in such a way that customers bills are tripling. In other words, brace yourself for their new sophisticated rip-off scheme! (They probably hired some scumbag who knows how to make the meters run faster based on the same electricity consumption – rat bags!).

3) Especially Expats who work or run businesses here on the North Coast, have over the past few years noticed how the Government, local Mayors and their armed forces, have gradually killed off business, Tourism and foreign investment. Most of the business focused expats are realizing, that if they took a couple of steps back and moved onto a country with stable rules and a healthy economy, then even with working less hours and applying the same skills, they could fairly quickly bounce back and start earning 5-10+ times as much as they currently earn in this pathetic economy. Leaving expats also miss the ability to afford relaxed time out with their kids and family, to dine out and to buy / repair stuff when needed and not when the purse allows it! Just because there is sun and beaches nearby, doesn't necessarily mean that everyone has the ability to kick back and enjoy it all, as now that earnings are getting smaller and the cost of living is simultaneously increasing, then pampering oneself and one's family, becomes a hard to reach luxury. They are also sick of experiencing or seeing Police extort money and their continued harassment of Girls walking between bars and the rough treatment of Haitians.

4) Leaving Expats also voice that they are sick of Dominicans, local traders and a large percentage of shifty fellow expats ripping them off. Unfortunately a lot of traders and businesses on the North Coast, seem to think that survival in business is only possible if they engage in Lying, cheating, stealing and letting people down! These culprits are found from the motorconcho driver, right through to the Government. This region especially is known globally by many as the 'pit' for many national and international scumbags – what a shame!

5) Daily there's Racism and clasism being displayed by Dominicans on foreigners, especially by the various Police forces, Fiscal offices and even the courts. Examples of this ranges from traffic Police targeting 'Gringo's' over laws that often don't exist, or for laws that they don't pull Dominicans over for. Others find that if they counter sue after having won their freedom from a Malicious criminal or civil legal attack, then the sentence never comes through, especially if the Gringo is up against a Dominican. Police and a list of self-proclaimed inspectors will harass Gringo business owners for large sums of money, or they will use their connections to get them shut down! Many Expats have found themselves being locked up for the most pathetic or unfair things I. E. Bringing a person they saw in a traffic accident to the hospital, only to be withheld for paying the bill and then the police arrests them till they clear up what actually happened (keep driving fellow Gringo!). The fact is, that pretty much anything you get involved with, you always have to fight to get equal treatment or the same price as your Dominican neighbor – and that sucks! 'When it's rotten from bottom to top, then it's game over for the Gringo! '.

6) Expats who are leaving also voice that they miss the abundance of cultural initiatives, watching skilled street performers in action, whether musicians, jugglers, clowns, artists, stunts, motor-animal or sports races. Also they miss theatre, cinema's, abundance of choices in sports and watching skilled artists in action. Also the urge is strong to return to a society where honor, productivity, long-term business mentality, sucess, love and law has a meaning to a much larger percentage of people in society. Many insist to find a new country that still offers all year round sun and clear water but this time a place that offers a lot more of the initiatives mentioned earlier in 'point 6&8243; .

'Life is short even at it's longest! ' 'Only the dreamers are awake, the rest are sleeping! '. Happy travels fellow Gringo's!

Author: Anonymous-Source-NPN

[QUOTE=Sidney; 1320218]6 Main Reasons why Expats are selling up and leaving the Dominican Republic.

'Everything is for sale! '

Reasons for leaving:

1) To renew either their temporary or permanent residency's, has become a big dirty let-down by the government, as they are now going back on their past promises of supplying Gringo's either their up-coming 'permanent residency' or to renew actual permanent residency's without too much hassle or lawyers involvement. Gringo's are now asked...[/QUOTE]Good post, thanks for posting.

[QUOTE=Sidney; 1320218]6 Main Reasons why Expats are selling up and leaving the Dominican Republic.

'Everything is for sale! '

Reasons for leaving:

'Life is short even at it's longest! ' 'Only the dreamers are awake, the rest are sleeping! '. Happy travels fellow Gringo's!

Author: Anonymous-Source-NPN[/QUOTE]I would suggest that most of these problems existed to some extent long before these expats moved to the DR. If they had done their due diligence and researched the country first, instead of spending a week in 'paradise' at a resort and buying a house, maybe they would have realised this country is not for them. Good luck to them and I hope they find happiness elsewhwere and next time spend more than a week in the country before buying.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1320404]I would suggest that most of these problems existed to some extent long before these expats moved to the DR. If they had done their due diligence and researched the country first, instead of spending a week in 'paradise' at a resort and buying a house, maybe they would have realised this country is not for them. Good luck to them and I hope they find happiness elsewhwere and next time spend more than a week in the country before buying.[/QUOTE]That is the same fucking thing I tell people. Due diligence. Vacation in a place is not the same as living there. A friend of mine recently went to DR for vacation for the first time. She came back talking about buying property. I told her to just get the thought out of her mind. The other day my brother was talking the same shit. I told him that he would have to be a fool to do that.

[QUOTE=Sidney; 1320218]6 Main Reasons why Expats are selling up and leaving the Dominican Republic.

'Everything is for sale! '

Reasons for leaving:

1) To renew either their temporary or permanent residency's, has become a big dirty let-down by the government, as they are now going back on their past promises of supplying Gringo's either their up-coming 'permanent residency' or to renew actual permanent residency's without too much hassle or lawyers involvement. Gringo's are now asked to re-supply all their documents as a 'cover-up' by the Governments immigration, who's lost thousands of foreigners records both on their PC's and papers I. E. Birth certificates, police records etc. And everyone is now being kicked back to zero, having to prove clean police record, re-do all the medicals, find witnesses of good character and supply proof of financial independence – and some would even have to travel back to their home country to receive new birth certificates (I. E. Russia, Ukraine etc.) – in other words a lot hassle, unfair expenses, frustration and life interrupting nonsense!

2) They are sick of being manipulated by the Government Owned power company, who especially with property owners, can use their monopoly position to violate customers in every nasty way possible. If you have been to pay your power bill a few times, then you would be sure to hear higly upset customers who have suddenly received some ridiculously high power bill or business owners being victims of ridiculous ongoing charges (and law suits if they don't keep paying!). According to some locals latest frustrations, the power company is now getting really sophisticated in ripping us all off, as they are now replacing our existing 'meters' with some new ones that effect our power bill in such a way that customers bills are tripling. In other words, brace yourself for their new sophisticated rip-off scheme! (They probably hired some scumbag who knows how to make the meters run faster based on the same electricity consumption – rat bags!).

3) Especially Expats who work or run businesses here on the North Coast, have over the past few years noticed how the Government, local Mayors and their armed forces, have gradually killed off business, Tourism and foreign investment. Most of the business focused expats are realizing, that if they took a couple of steps back and moved onto a country with stable rules and a healthy economy, then even with working less hours and applying the same skills, they could fairly quickly bounce back and start earning 5-10+ times as much as they currently earn in this pathetic economy. Leaving expats also miss the ability to afford relaxed time out with their kids and family, to dine out and to buy / repair stuff when needed and not when the purse allows it! Just because there is sun and beaches nearby, doesn't necessarily mean that everyone has the ability to kick back and enjoy it all, as now that earnings are getting smaller and the cost of living is simultaneously increasing, then pampering oneself and one's family, becomes a hard to reach luxury. They are also sick of experiencing or seeing Police extort money and their continued harassment of Girls walking between bars and the rough treatment of Haitians.

4) Leaving Expats also voice that they are sick of Dominicans, local traders and a large percentage of shifty fellow expats ripping them off. Unfortunately a lot of traders and businesses on the North Coast, seem to think that survival in business is only possible if they engage in Lying, cheating, stealing and letting people down! These culprits are found from the motorconcho driver, right through to the Government. This region especially is known globally by many as the 'pit' for many national and international scumbags – what a shame!

5) Daily there's Racism and clasism being displayed by Dominicans on foreigners, especially by the various Police forces, Fiscal offices and even the courts. Examples of this ranges from traffic Police targeting 'Gringo's' over laws that often don't exist, or for laws that they don't pull Dominicans over for. Others find that if they counter sue after having won their freedom from a Malicious criminal or civil legal attack, then the sentence never comes through, especially if the Gringo is up against a Dominican. Police and a list of self-proclaimed inspectors will harass Gringo business owners for large sums of money, or they will use their connections to get them shut down! Many Expats have found themselves being locked up for the most pathetic or unfair things I. E. Bringing a person they saw in a traffic accident to the hospital, only to be withheld for paying the bill and then the police arrests them till they clear up what actually happened (keep driving fellow Gringo!). The fact is, that pretty much anything you get involved with, you always have to fight to get equal treatment or the same price as your Dominican neighbor – and that sucks! 'When it's rotten from bottom to top, then it's game over for the Gringo! '.

6) Expats who are leaving also voice that they miss the abundance of cultural initiatives, watching skilled street performers in action, whether musicians, jugglers, clowns, artists, stunts, motor-animal or sports races. Also they miss theatre, cinema's, abundance of choices in sports and watching skilled artists in action. Also the urge is strong to return to a society where honor, productivity, long-term business mentality, sucess, love and law has a meaning to a much larger percentage of people in society. Many insist to find a new country that still offers all year round sun and clear water but this time a place that offers a lot more of the initiatives mentioned earlier in 'point 6&8243; .

'Life is short even at it's longest! ' 'Only the dreamers are awake, the rest are sleeping! '. Happy travels fellow Gringo's!

Author: Anonymous-Source-NPN[/QUOTE]Lived here for over 3 years and still loving it. Keep it simple, stupid. Why get caught up in the corrupt bullshit here?

Your plan was doomed form the start It was obvious ill conceived. However she is fine. Send me her contact info I will get some pay back for you. Dam she is fine. I might let her scam me a while. You chose not to except the advise that was offered to you. However after seeing her I understand what did her buddy look like. Post pleaseee.

[QUOTE=Sturmer; 1319408]Well, here we are with my final report.

I learned some lessons.

1) NEVER TRUST A working girl!

2) NEVER DO WHAT OTHER MORE EXPERIENCED MONGERS TELL YOU TO BE JUST A CRAZY IDEA.

At the end. My damn idea was ill conceived, as I am been thinking with my little brother.

I don't want to bother you again with the whole story. If interested please read my previous posts and comments.

At the end the scam damage was 700 USD for the other girls daily guests passes in the hotel.

The saddest thing is that the girl who scammed me was the only one I already know in person.

Beware of her. Her real name is Perla Flory de Los Santos, from Santo Domingo.

I will post a memo in the santo domingo just to avoid double reports.

Her photo is 3 years old, now she has some more kgs on her, but anyway quite cute, sad that her behavior isn't at all professional or anyway correct at all and she doesn't respect previous agreements.

The fact is that she tried to blackmail me asking double the previously agreed price.

No way I am going to be blackmailed by anyone, less than all by a working girl. No way baby.

So she left, and sadly she took with her that cute girlfriend I couldn't know enough.

So, beware, avoid my mistake, don't even think to hire her for anything long than a night.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1320606]Lived here for over 3 years and still loving it. Keep it simple, stupid. Why get caught up in the corrupt bullshit here?[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you, every day when I wake up, I think about how many people wish they could be in the D. R. Right now. I have been here for 5 years now and I am not leaving anytime soon.

[QUOTE=Berthold;1320762]I totally agree with you, every day when I wake up, I think about how many people wish they could be in the D. R. Right now. I have been here for 5 years now and I am not leaving anytime soon.[/QUOTE]The dudes I know that were forced to leave the DR went broke, a few more are on the fence. I guess making up excuses why the left instead of telling their buddies they are morons saves them face.

Hello everyone.

I have been following the DR forums for a couple weeks, registered last week. Now I apologize for posting this here; I did try to contact the Admin via PM but his inbox is full; p So I donned my flame retardent suit and am taking a stab here with the hope someone can assist me solving this technical forum issue I have.

When I click on any link in a post that should send me to [View original post] it sends me about 900+ pages back, and if the the forum is less then 900 pages, I get send to the last page, even if the post I am looking for is on the same page or just a couple pages back.

Is there some setting I accidently hit that causes this?

I am using google chrome, and it worked fine for me since a I joined a week or so ago, but the link issue started this last weekend (about same time I paid the extra $20).

Notarized Letter of Guarantee. Signed by a Dominican or a legal resident alien in the Dominican Republic specifying the type of relationship with the beneficiary of the visa. Also, the guarantor certifies to the Dominican authorities to undertake any expenses incurred on account of the visa beneficiary. The guarantor remains financially committed in the event that deportation is required if the recipient should violate the Dominican law. This letter of guarantee must be signed by a notary of the Dominican Republic and legalized by the Attorney General's Office of the Dominican Republic-Notarized Letter of Guarantee. Signed by a Dominican or a legal resident alien in the Dominican Republic specifying the type of relationship with the beneficiary of the visa. Also, the guarantor certifies to the Dominican authorities to undertake any expenses incurred on account of the visa beneficiary. The guarantor remains financially committed in the event that deportation is required if the recipient should violate the Dominican law. This letter of guarantee must be signed by a notary of the Dominican Republic and legalized by the Attorney General's Office of the Dominican Republic.

Any lawyer or notary that works with residencies should be able to do this for you, piece of cake. Either way it has to be notarized so if I were you, I'd play it safe and have it made up by a lawyer / notary and legalized. It doesn't state anything about showing copies of bank accounts, etc. But you might want to have something on hand just in case. Way back when I first applied, my guarantor made copies of his 2 vehicle titles for example.

The other option you have is to print up the new law and wave it in their face

I am planning my first trip to DR in November around Thanksgiving. I would like some input where to go? Punta Cana, Puerto Plata or Santo Domingo? Also where to stay and what the good Bars or Clubs where hot women hang out?

Thanks,

Dave

I have spent many enjoyable Turkey Days in the the DR. Not much to go on in your post as to what you are looking for so I would go to FOD = Field of Dreams or to BB's = Blackbeards you can not miss with either place for your first trip. Read all the information on the Puerto Plata section. Good luck!

I'm really looking forward to making my first DR trip, and I would appreciate any advice that more experienced members would be willing to give. I'm not really looking for general advice, I'm looking for advice on finding the right kind of women. Oddly enough, I've become infatuated with the kind of women you usually find on sites like Rico's Phats as well as the "more experienced" women: I'm not looking for a 19 year old perky and tight "hard body" to have a GFE with. I'm more wanting a drunk and saggy 30-something or above that's spilling out over a tube top and desperate for 500 pesos.

So what do you guys think?

[QUOTE=Ah4321; 1328101]I'm really looking forward to making my first DR trip, and I would appreciate any advice that more experienced members would be willing to give. I'm not really looking for general advice, I'm looking for advice on finding the right kind of women. Oddly enough, I've become infatuated with the kind of women you usually find on sites like Rico's Phats as well as the "more experienced" women: I'm not looking for a 19 year old perky and tight "hard body" to have a GFE with. I'm more wanting a drunk and saggy 30-something or above that's spilling out over a tube top and desperate for 500 pesos.

So what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Hahaha, just post up somewhere along calle Pedro Clisante in Sosua and you should find what you want within fifteen minutes. You might have to pay 1000 pesos but no more than that for the type of chica you describe.

[QUOTE=Dave1027; 1324651]I am planning my first trip to DR in November around Thanksgiving. I would like some input where to go? Punta Cana, Puerto Plata or Santo Domingo? Also where to stay and what the good Bars or Clubs where hot women hang out?

Thanks,

Dave[/QUOTE]I will be at BB for the Thanksgiving week. Me and I the guy I will be traveling with will have a car and plan a couple of trips to Sosua. You could tag along for a couple bucks or beers to cover the fuel if you decide to stay at BB. BB usually puts on a typical turkey potatoes and gravy dinner on Thanksgiving.

Bogiemaker

[QUOTE=Dave1027;1324651]I am planning my first trip to DR in November around Thanksgiving. I would like some input where to go? Punta Cana, Puerto Plata or Santo Domingo? Also where to stay and what the good Bars or Clubs where hot women hang out?[/QUOTE]Punta Cana is definitely out unless the beach is your top priority. It is for families and couples. There are working girls there but limited selection and higher prices because they have a captive market.

Many guys favor Santo Domingo, but I think it is mainly for more experienced mongers, and you would struggle without some Spanish.

If you have no Spanish at all, Blackbeards or Field of Dreams are safe bets. You can also have a good time in Sosua with no Spanish but you need to keep your wits about you and it would be advisable to hook up with some more experienced mongers to show you the ropes. That is easy enough to do. More varied experiences in Sosua but more ways to come unstuck than in the "protected" environments of Blackbeards or Field of Dreams.

Do not fall into the trap of booking into an All Inclusive Hotel. What you save on flight + hotel you will lose double on taxis and booking short-time places to do your chicas, plus you will miss out on the companionship and learning experience of hanging with other mongers.

[QUOTE=Ah4321; 1328101]I'm really looking forward to making my first DR trip, and I would appreciate any advice that more experienced members would be willing to give. I'm not really looking for general advice, I'm looking for advice on finding the right kind of women. Oddly enough, I've become infatuated with the kind of women you usually find on sites like Rico's Phats as well as the "more experienced" women: I'm not looking for a 19 year old perky and tight "hard body" to have a GFE with. I'm more wanting a drunk and saggy 30-something or above that's spilling out over a tube top and desperate for 500 pesos.

So what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Those hardbody 19 yr olds do turn into your kinda girl in 10 yrs, so there are plenty for you. Most of them go back home so if you want the genuine grateful for 500 peso tln chica you should get out of sosua to the real DR. There are always some left over though as hotel maids, beach vendors, etc.

[QUOTE=Ah4321; 1328101]I'm really looking forward to making my first DR trip, and I would appreciate any advice that more experienced members would be willing to give. I'm not really looking for general advice, I'm looking for advice on finding the right kind of women. Oddly enough, I've become infatuated with the kind of women you usually find on sites like Rico's Phats as well as the "more experienced" women: I'm not looking for a 19 year old perky and tight "hard body" to have a GFE with. I'm more wanting a drunk and saggy 30-something or above that's spilling out over a tube top and desperate for 500 pesos.

So what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]There is a woman in Sosua called Latina, whose photo has been seen recently somewhere in these boards. She should be right up your alley, and you up hers.

Hello,

Can I buy those pills at a pharmacy without prescription?

In Colombia they have very cheap generic Viagra, but not Cialis, which is the more refined, long lasting, without getting an indian red face as when I take 100 mg Viagra, which can complicate things socially, heheh.

Large colmado with a large Presidente sign, near heli-pads on Martinez

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1328515]Hello,

Can I buy those pills at a pharmacy without prescription?

In Colombia they have very cheap generic Viagra, but not Cialis, which is the more refined, long lasting, without getting an indian red face as when I take 100 mg Viagra, which can complicate things socially, heheh.[/QUOTE]Yes, you can. If fact you can even get them in convenience stores. Also if you do want to get a prescription for a medication, it does not cost a lot to visit a doctor.

[QUOTE=Ah4321; 1328101]I'm really looking forward to making my first DR trip, and I would appreciate any advice that more experienced members would be willing to give. I'm not really looking for general advice, I'm looking for advice on finding the right kind of women. Oddly enough, I've become infatuated with the kind of women you usually find on sites like Rico's Phats as well as the "more experienced" women: I'm not looking for a 19 year old perky and tight "hard body" to have a GFE with. I'm more wanting a drunk and saggy 30-something or above that's spilling out over a tube top and desperate for 500 pesos.

So what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Why go to the Dr, We got fat out of shape, No Teeth, Inner tube belly, Michellin Man, Spillage out everywhere. I can hook you up, right here in the good old USA. Lmao. Why in the hell would you go WAY over there, to find some nasty ass fat nasty *****, you can find right here! Thats like a person getting a chance to drive Masseratts, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porches, Bentleys etc. But OH no, I rather drive a chevy chevette, Ford Pinto, or a Yugo. LOL!

Bloody hell man. I can't understand why you want to shagg old baggs but If you look good you wouldn't have to pay anything for it most propably.

[QUOTE=Ah4321; 1328101]I'm really looking forward to making my first DR trip, and I would appreciate any advice that more experienced members would be willing to give. I'm not really looking for general advice, I'm looking for advice on finding the right kind of women. Oddly enough, I've become infatuated with the kind of women you usually find on sites like Rico's Phats as well as the "more experienced" women: I'm not looking for a 19 year old perky and tight "hard body" to have a GFE with. I'm more wanting a drunk and saggy 30-something or above that's spilling out over a tube top and desperate for 500 pesos.

So what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I'll be visiting the north coast sosua / cabarete soon for a few months.

I'm a pretty kinky guy looking for girls that are into anal sex toys.

From what I heard, chicks that are into it can be found. However I don't know if there are any sex shops that sell toys and lube etc.

Do you know of any? I found sexshop. Com. Do but I was wondering if there are any that have a bigger range and ofcourse a bit nearer.

Or could I bring some in my checked luggage?

Thanks

I got pulled over by the police for talking on the cellphone in Sosua, the cop was a nice guy and ask me where I was from when I replied Philly he said that talking on the phone was illegal in the Dom Rep and this was my warning. Have a nice day. Also you can exchange money inside Super Macardo in Sosua and get the same rate as Western Union without the hassle of a passport.

[QUOTE=Coole Mr;1333637]I got pulled over by the police for talking on the cellphone in Sosua, the cop was a nice guy and ask me where I was from when I replied Philly he said that talking on the phone was illegal in the Dom Rep and this was my warning. Have a nice day. Also you can exchange money inside Super Macardo in Sosua and get the same rate as Western Union without the hassle of a passport.[/QUOTE]So you're one of those people I still see yapping on the cell phone while in your hand (illegal). Don't you know what Bluetooth is or you still rocking one of those brick cell phones from the 90's?

[quote=deepmmpactt;1332482]why go to the dr, we got fat out of shape, no teeth, inner tube belly, michellin man, spillage out everywhere. I can hook you up, right here in the good old usa. Lmao. Why in the hell would you go way over there, to find some nasty ass fat nasty *****, you can find right here! Thats like a person getting a chance to drive masseratts, ferraris, lamborghinis, porches, bentleys etc. But oh no, i rather drive a chevy chevette, ford pinto, or a yugo. Lol![/quote]+1

#smh

[QUOTE=Coole Mr;1333637]I got pulled over by the police for talking on the cellphone in Sosua, the cop was a nice guy and ask me where I was from when I replied Philly he said that talking on the phone was illegal in the Dom Rep and this was my warning. Have a nice day. Also you can exchange money inside Super Macardo in Sosua and get the same rate as Western Union without the hassle of a passport.[/QUOTE]About driving and talking on the cell phone. I did not know there was a law since having lived here for more than 3 years. I wish the Law would crack down on bus drivers talking and texting on their cell phones.

[QUOTE=HornyGuy69; 1332887]Hi,

I'll be visiting the north coast sosua / cabarete soon for a few months.

I'm a pretty kinky guy looking for girls that are into anal sex toys.

From what I heard, chicks that are into it can be found. However I don't know if there are any sex shops that sell toys and lube etc.

Do you know of any? I found sexshop. Com. Do but I was wondering if there are any that have a bigger range and ofcourse a bit nearer.

Or could I bring some in my checked luggage?

Thanks[/QUOTE]There used to be a place in Sosua but last time I was there it was out of business.

I always take a couple of vibrators with me and have yet to meet a Chica that didn't. Know how to use it. I usually leave them with the girls when I leave. I posted a picture of the one they all liked last trip.

I am planning a trip to DR in a couple of weeks for vacation. I want a combination of relaxing at the beach and easy access to activities. I am leaning toward Santo Domingo due to the appearance of shorter and easier flights, transportation, etc. It looks like maybe Sosua has the most action. Any thoughts either way would be appreciated. It looks like there isn't tons of up to date info in these forums at the moment.

[QUOTE=George03;1338831]I am planning a trip to DR in a couple of weeks for vacation. I want a combination of relaxing at the beach and easy access to activities. I am leaning toward Santo Domingo due to the appearance of shorter and easier flights, transportation, etc. It looks like maybe Sosua has the most action. Any thoughts either way would be appreciated. It looks like there isn't tons of up to date info in these forums at the moment.[/QUOTE]Santo Domingo is NOT the place for beaches, though you have Boca Chica twenty miles away. Boca Chica is kind of slummy beachwise and sex wise, but both are available.

Personally I like Sosua beach, but some people don't. Sosua probably has the best combination of beach and sexual activities combined of anywhere.

The beachfront at Puerto Plata along the Malecon is quite nice, but more for locals and there are questions about how clean the water is for swimming.

The best beaches I have seen in the DR are at Las Terrenas, though the Punta Cana area is also highly rated. At Punta Cana you will find large all inclusive hotels with fine pools. However these areas with excellent beaches have less in the way of sexual activity.

Another alternative would be to stay at Cabarete, a resort only 5 miles from Sosua that has fine beaches with kite surfing and plenty of restaurants, but quick and easy access to the fleshpots of Sosua. There are cheap local taxis running 24 hours.

Really it just depends on your time and budget. Yes, the flights are a bit cheaper to SDQ, but personally I would not go to Santo Domingo for a beach vacation any more than I would go to New York City for a beach vacation (I have been to SD several times for various reasons.)

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1339184]Santo Domingo is NOT the place for beaches, though you have Boca Chica twenty miles away. Boca Chica is kind of slummy beachwise and sex wise, but both are available.

Personally I like Sosua beach, but some people don't. Sosua probably has the best combination of beach and sexual activities combined of anywhere.

The beachfront at Puerto Plata along the Malecon is quite nice, but more for locals and there are questions about how clean the water is for swimming.

The best beaches I have seen in the DR are at Las Terrenas, though the Punta Cana area is also highly rated. At Punta Cana you will find large all inclusive hotels with fine pools. However these areas with excellent beaches have less in the way of sexual activity.

Another alternative would be to stay at Cabarete, a resort only 5 miles from Sosua that has fine beaches with kite surfing and plenty of restaurants, but quick and easy access to the fleshpots of Sosua. There are cheap local taxis running 24 hours.

Really it just depends on your time and budget. Yes, the flights are a bit cheaper to SDQ, but personally I would not go to Santo Domingo for a beach vacation any more than I would go to New York City for a beach vacation (I have been to SD several times for various reasons.) [/QUOTE]Love the beach and mongering combination that Sosua offers. I'm a (former) Rio lover, and while nothing compares to Rio, Sosua does offer that combination of a beach town and available chicas.

Would be nice if you could get a beachfront hotel or apartment in Sosua. Shame that Sosua Bay Hotel fell apart.

I think this would be a good intro to check out what kind of girls you will find in DR. Not entirely representative because it does not show many Haitianas that are actually quite prevalent on streets and as working girls.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2hr1BGfwys[/url]

[QUOTE=George03;1338831]I am planning a trip to DR in a couple of weeks for vacation. I want a combination of relaxing at the beach and easy access to activities. I am leaning toward Santo Domingo due to the appearance of shorter and easier flights, transportation, etc. It looks like maybe Sosua has the most action. Any thoughts either way would be appreciated. It looks like there isn't tons of up to date info in these forums at the moment.[/QUOTE]Sosua in my opinion. Sex is in the air all around you. Right next to beach.

[quote=george03;1338831]i am planning a trip to dr in a couple of weeks for vacation. i want a combination of relaxing at the beach and easy access to activities. i am leaning toward santo domingo due to the appearance of shorter and easier flights, transportation, etc. it looks like maybe sosua has the most action. any thoughts either way would be appreciated. it looks like there isn't tons of up to date info in these forums at the moment.[/quote]sosua certainly fills your needs with a nice beach and easy access to chicas. however, i'm not sure i'd spend all two weeks in sosua. unless you're a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] fanatic (surfing, windsurfing, kite surfing, diving) , you might get pretty bored in sosua after a week or so.

During my trip to the Dominican Republic, I wanted to get some scuba diving in as I didn't just go there for the girls. I ending up choosing to dive with Scuba Dive Sosua as their owner and dive instructor Pablo Santos, gave me the best email communications prior to my trip there. As a Dominican who grew up in the USA, he offered to help me throughout my trip as well since he was very well connected in the area with other activities like fishing tours.

Also, unlike other scuba operators there, he offered a free pickup from Blackbeard's, where I was staying and it a good 30 minutes away. Since the taxi fare to Sosua would have been about $55 to $60 US, I saved plenty if I dived with his shop. His shop is located right at the main Sosua beach entrance.

Although it's not a large shop, Pablo has enough crew to make it as easy as possible for dives. Once I arrived there, his guys took my BC and assembled the tank and regulator before taking them to the dive boat. All my other gear like fins were also taken to the boat for me.

The dive boats in Sosua are not like other Caribbean destinations. First of all, none of the scuba operators in Sosua have large dive boats with heads on board. Instead, they use small boats which meet divers right on the beach as there are no docks around. This did not turn out to be a problem since the crew handles all your gear anyway. All I had to do was climb on the dive boat when it neared the beach.

The crew also assembles your weight belt and helps you put on your BC / tank. If you want, divers can also put on BC / tanks while in the water. In either case, it's a back entry into the ocean.

Pablo was an awesome dive leader. He has several thousand dives in the region so he knows the dive sites inside out. For my dives, the first two were under less than good visibility due to recent rain but despite this, he took the effort to show me some interesting things including spotting eels, lionfish and large crabs. For my next two dives the following day, we dived under much better conditions and he was able to spot some very hard to find fish including a frogfish and some very tiny shrimp that lives on long pieces of coral.

During the time on the dive boat, Pablo talked about some of the history and facts about the Sosua Bay region. You can sense the passion that he has for not only the local marine life but also the region which he calls his home. I did my 100th logged dive here in Sosua and I must say that Pablo provided the most personalized service as a divemaster that I've had so far. Even the timing of when we went out diving was quite flexible. Although this might have something to do with being in a low season. But he did mention that even if when he has a group, it was left to the group on when people wanted to dive as his crew would be ready anytime.

After each dive, we had the option of returning to the beach for a surface interval and bathroom break or simply staying on the boat. I did both options, one for each day of diving. At the end of each two tank dive trips, the boat returned back to shore and we just jumped of of the boat onto the beach. Again, Pablo's crew did the work of carrying all the scuba gear back to the shop. I can't even remember another dive operator where I didn't have to lug my own gear from the dive boats.

The reefs were in good condition but some areas had evidence of overfishing. With a good dive leader like Pablo, he was still able to spot some really interesting marine life out there. Don't expect any really big marine life but there will be some neat smaller species to see.

The staff at Scuba Dive Sosua even had my BC and other gear rinsed and hung to dry before storing it inside the shop overnight for me. There was no need to carrying anything back to my hotel although I did choose to bring my dive computer back so I could log my dives.

I came back to the shop where my equipment was to do my final packing as Pablo even gave me a ride back to the Puerto Plata airport for my departure, another $20 US savings. Now that's personalized service! I challenge anyone to find a dive shop that will do all that for you.

I would definitely dive with Pablo again and recommend Scuba Dive Sosua to anybody who wants to dive or get some training when in the Dominican Republic north coast area. He did tell me that he was interested in becoming the preferred dive operator for guests of Blackbeard's, FOD and other places we stay at in the region. If he offered pick up service and since the operator that Blackbeard's used before from Puerto Plata refuses to come pick up divers, I'm pretty sure that he will get more of us as clients.

He also does fishing tours too which I haven't tried but I'm sure some of us mongers would be into. Their website is simply scubadivesosua. Com and that was how I originally contacted Pablo.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit; 1355298]During my trip to the Dominican Republic, I wanted to get some scuba diving in as I didn't just go there for the girls. I ending up choosing to dive with Scuba Dive Sosua as their owner and dive instructor Pablo Santos, gave me the best email communications prior to my trip there.

Also, unlike other scuba operators there, he offered a free pickup from Blackbeard's, where I was staying and it a good 30 minutes away. Since the taxi fare to Sosua would have been about $55 to $60 US, I saved plenty if I dived with his shop.

Again, Pablo's crew did the work of carrying all the scuba gear back to the shop. I can't even remember another dive operator where I didn't have to lug my own gear from the dive boats.

The staff at Scuba Dive Sosua even had my BC and other gear rinsed and hung to dry before storing it inside the shop overnight for me. There was no need to carrying anything back to my hotel although I did choose to bring my dive computer back so I could log my dives.

I came back to the shop where my equipment was to do my final packing as Pablo even gave me a ride back to the Puerto Plata airport for my departure, another $20 US savings. Now that's personalized service! I challenge anyone to find a dive shop that will do all that for you.[/QUOTE]So you did end up bringing your own gear. Was it worth it for you? Where do you do most of your diving seeing that they don't carry the gear to and from the boat for you? I do most of mine in Asia and there many more times than not the helpers take all the equipment to and from the boat. Like you said, you got a steal with the rides between BB and Sosua. Email communication before a trip is of extreme importance. I'm planning a trip to Palau in February. There are like 3 shops and none of them answer emails for shit. And as per tripadvisor reports most people have the same experience with all the shops there; great diving but terrible service.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1355362]So you did end up bringing your own gear. Was it worth it for you? Where do you do most of your diving seeing that they don't carry the gear to and from the boat for you? I do most of mine in Asia and there many more times than not the helpers take all the equipment to and from the boat. Like you said, you got a steal with the rides between BB and Sosua. Email communication before a trip is of extreme importance. I'm planning a trip to Palau in February. There are like 3 shops and none of them answer emails for shit. And as per tripadvisor reports most people have the same experience with all the shops there; great diving but terrible service.[/QUOTE]I did bring my own gear and since any Caribbean diving is better than what I have up here in Canada, yes, it was worth it. I packed as light as I could considering the gear I brought down. I have not dived Asia yet as most of my dives are in the Caribbean but also dived the Red Sea.

So if my flight arrives at 2:30ish in SDQ, do I stand a chance of making a 4:00 Metro bus to POP?

[QUOTE=Monger1337;1367541]So if my flight arrives at 2:30ish in SDQ, do I stand a chance of making a 4:00 Metro bus to POP?[/QUOTE]If you don't have checked luggage and no other planes arrive ahead of you, , yes. Caribe tours have hourly gua guas so that also is an option.

Why is it that if I'm chatting online to someone in DR and they say:

Them: Como estas.

Me: Cansado.

Them: Si, un poco.

Me: No. Yo estoy cansado.

If I answer their question that I am in a certain mood or I am doing a particular activity and do not put the "estoy" before it, then they assume I am asking them if they are in the particular mood or doing the particular activity, instead of taking it that I am answering their question about myself. Am I missing something here?

It is assumed you are asking a question.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1367848]Why is it that if I'm chatting online to someone in DR and they say:

Them: Como estas.

Me: Cansado.

Them: Si, un poco.

Me: No. Yo estoy cansado.

If I answer their question that I am in a certain mood or I am doing a particular activity and do not put the "estoy" before it, then they assume I am asking them if they are in the particular mood or doing the particular activity, instead of taking it that I am answering their question about myself. Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1367851]It is assumed you are asking a question.[/QUOTE]The question is WHY are they assuming that I am asking them a question, instead of realizing that I am answering their question.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1367854]The question is WHY are they assuming that I am asking them a question, instead of realizing that I am answering their question.[/QUOTE]It's hard to keep up when they are chatting with 3 or 4 "Novios" at the same time. LOL

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1367854]The question is WHY are they assuming that I am asking them a question, instead of realizing that I am answering their question.[/QUOTE]I think in some forms of Spanish you can answer the question "como estas" with the adverbs "mal" or "bien", but if you use an adjective, then "estoy" is expected before the adjective. (You don't have to add the "yo".) So that might be why they take "cansado" as a question. Not that most of them are experts in the syntax of Dominican Spanish, but that would be my guess.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1367848]Why is it that if I'm chatting online to someone in DR and they say:

Them: Como estas.

Me: Cansado.

Them: Si, un poco.

Me: No. Yo estoy cansado.

If I answer their question that I am in a certain mood or I am doing a particular activity and do not put the "estoy" before it, then they assume I am asking them if they are in the particular mood or doing the particular activity, instead of taking it that I am answering their question about myself. Am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]'Como estas' here is as 'how do you do'. It's a greeting and not a question.

I'd planning on, perhaps, staying in the, D. R, for a couple of months this year. I've done some research and found the best way to accomplish this is to enter, with a 30 day visa, and extend at the airport, for up to 90 days upon your arrival in the, DR. Can anyone confirm this info, or maybe add to it. What is the cost? Are there alternative ways to do this?

Gentlemen,

I have an "election protection" winning travel authorization from Jet Blue for roundtrip travel anywhere international. Availability is pretty good for the DR. I had hoped to use it myself, but my schedule just isn't going to work. Travel has to be done by 2/13. Is anyone planning a trip? PM me if so.

[QUOTE=Don Antonio; 1374976]That's complete and utter non-sense ("Dominicans are Africans"). May I suggest you read up on Dominican history.

Now, even if your statement were about Haiti, it still be wrong. Because most Haitians don't speak Spanish and Spanish is not an official language of the country.[/QUOTE]So what are they? They certainly are not European. I will move this discussion to the General thread.

"Beyond acts of individual cruelty, the Spanish disrupted the Indian ecosystem and culture. Forcing Indians to work in mines rather than in their gardens led to widespread malnutrition. The intrusion of rabbits and livestock caused further ecological disaster. Diseases new to the Indians played a role, although smallpox, usually the big killer, did not appear on the island until after 1516. Some ofthe Indians tried fleeing to Cuba, but the Spanish soon followed them there. Estimates of Haiti's pre-Columbian population range as high as 8, 000, 000 people. When Christopher Columbus returned to Spain, he left his brother Bartholomew in charge of the island. Bartholomew took a census of Indian adults in 1496 and came up with 1, 100, 000. The Spanish did not count children under fourteen and could not count Arawaks who had escaped into the mountains. Kirkpatrick Sale estimates that a more accurate total would probably be in the neighborhood of 3, 000, 000. 'By 1516, ' according to Benjamin Keen, 'thanks to the sinister Indian slave trade and labor policies initiated by Columbus, only some 12, 000 remained. ' Las Casas tells us that fewer than 200 Indians were alive in 1542, [b]By 1555, they were all gone. [/b]" Excerpt from "Lies My Teacher Told Me About Christopher Colombus" by James W. Loewen [url]http://books.google.com/books/about/Lies_My_Teacher_Told_Me_About_Christophe.html?id=8ZDWHQAACAAJ[/url]

"Gonzalo Fernández de Oviedo and de las Casas documented that the island was called Haití ("Mountainous Land") by the Taíno. D'Anghiera added another name, Quizqueia (supposedly "Mother of all Lands") , but later research shows that the word does not seem to derive from the original Arawak Taíno language. [5] Although the Taínos use of Haití is verified and the name was used by all three historians, evidence suggests that it probably was not the Taíno name of the whole island. Haití was the Taíno name of a region (now known as Los Haitises) in the northeastern section of the present-day Dominican Republic. In the oldest documented map of the island, created by Andrés de Morales, that region is named Montes de Haití ("Haiti Mountains"). [b]Las Casas apparently named the whole island Haití[/b] On the basis of that particular region; [6] the'Anghiera said that the name of one part was given to the whole island. [5]" [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispaniola[/url]

[QUOTE=Mongerman69;1373742]I'd planning on, perhaps, staying in the, D. R, for a couple of months this year. I've done some research and found the best way to accomplish this is to enter, with a 30 day visa, and extend at the airport, for up to 90 days upon your arrival in the, DR. Can anyone confirm this info, or maybe add to it. What is the cost? Are there alternative ways to do this?[/QUOTE]This is a much debated topic on Dr1 and there is no consensus as to whether the government is really changing their former policy of considering tourist card overstays to be merely a matter of paying a fee on departure. Oddly overstaying a visa under the law up to this point would subject you to deportation or other penalties while overstaying a tourist card (since americans don't need a visa for entry) has no such penalties. I'd look on that site Dr1 and maybe post or pm some knowledgable members for a current opinion. We are mid snow bird season now and thousands of americans and canadians will be really pissed if they get hassled trying to leave. So we shall see if they back down from the rumors in a few months.

I'm thinking about going to Dr during the easter will probably take the buss from Puerto Plata to Santo during the Friday and leave on Sunday. Will the clubs be open as usual or will I have a hard time finding pro-girls and alcohol during the Easter?

[QUOTE=ShooBree;1375979]I'm thinking about going to Dr during the easter will probably take the buss from Puerto Plata to Santo during the Friday and leave on Sunday. Will the clubs be open as usual or will I have a hard time finding pro-girls and alcohol during the Easter?[/QUOTE]No problem. Head for the beaches, Boca Chica or Cabarete. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Smokers Rule; 1375103]Gentlemen,

I have an "election protection" winning travel authorization from Jet Blue for roundtrip travel anywhere international. Availability is pretty good for the DR. I had hoped to use it myself, but my schedule just isn't going to work. Travel has to be done by 2/13. Is anyone planning a trip? PM me if so.[/QUOTE]G-D bless, I am now newly minted future JB's Frequent F....R Thanks for the opportunity, Smokers Rule! You are my miracle, man. It was a nice present.

I received an email this morning from Jetblue, about their latest fare sale (free to join jetblue and receive emails about fare sales and promotions).

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I am going to book a trip tonite. Wow this is a great deal. I would love to shake your hand.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1382841]I received an email this morning from Jetblue, about their latest fare sale (free to join jetblue and receive emails about fare sales and promotions).

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[url]http://www.jetblue.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1382841]I received an email this morning from Jetblue,[/QUOTE]Great to see you back.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1383123]Great to see you back.[/QUOTE]Thanks. And thanks for the Tagged site info, there are some attractive Dominicanas on that site. One chica I saw last weekend in Santo Domingo, says she gets over 100 messages per day in Tagged.

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i've been reading on a travel forum that customs / aduana at the pop airport have been absolute pricks to people. basically confirep001ing anything and everything they wanted from you. any verification here?

[quote=beersterry;1389713]i've been reading on a travel forum that customs / aduana at the pop airport have been absolute pricks to people. basically confirep001ing anything and everything they wanted from you. any verification here?[/quote]i made eight return trips and they never even spoke to me, let alone looked in my bags. i just marched straight through. so i guess ymmv. may depend what you look like and how you act.

are you talking about confirep001ing stuff you are legally entitled to bring in / out or stuff where you are breaking the rules?

[quote=beersterry;1389713]i've been reading on a travel forum that customs / aduana at the pop airport have been absolute pricks to people. basically confirep001ing anything and everything they wanted from you. any verification here?[/quote]i have been in / out of pop over 25 times and the only thing ever confirep001ed was an umbrella, where are you reading this fiction, unless you are importing a tv set, i think you will be ok.

[quote=buscemi;1389995]i have been in / out of pop over 25 times and the only thing ever confirep001ed was an umbrella[/quote]i second that. i had one taken from me as well. but it will only happen if you put it in your carry-on. other than that, nothing esle has been confirep001ed.

but if you have anything you really care about (especially electronics) , put them in your carry on. i had a digital camera stolen from my check luggage somewhere between pop and mia international in my very early days of international travel. only took one time to never do that again, lol.

also, i am glad i happened not to have left the photo/video card in the camera :d.

hassling tourist is a great way to lose your precious job. i would seriously doubt they are that stupid.

[quote=savepros321; 1390000]i second that. i had one taken from me as well. but it will only happen if you put it in your carry-on. other than that, nothing esle has been confirep001ed.

but if you have anything you really care about (especially electronics) , put them in your carry on. i had a digital camera stolen from my check luggage somewhere between pop and mia international in my very early days of international travel. only took one time to never do that again, lol.

also, i am glad i happened not to have left the photo / video card in the camera.[/quote]

are you saying that i made up the story of them telling me i cannot take my travel-sized umbrella on the airplane (there by confirep001ing it), and that my digital camera some how sprouted legs and unzipped its self from my camera pouch and walked off on its own?

[quote=oldkool;1390019]hassling tourist is a great way to lose your precious job. i would seriously doubt they are that stupid.[/quote]apparently you have never been to sosua. i guess being shaken down by tourist police isn't your definition of "hassling tourist". jarmondy would probably disagree with you.


[i]"the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."[/i]

- albert einstein

[quote=oldkool;1390019]hassling tourist is a great way to lose your precious job. i would seriously doubt they are that stupid.[/quote]they won't lose their job because their superiors are more crooked than they are, it is the way of life down there. look at all the corruption in the dominican government, it is rampant.

that said, i haven't had anything stolen or confirep001ed in over 20 trips through dominican customs but colombia is a whole different story. i have had clothes stolen many times and the bottle of hot sauce i always travel with only makes it about 50% of the time, hahaha. i never put any electronics or anything of value in my checked bags, ever, that's just a given regardless of where the heck one travels.

hey gogo, wasn't it you that had one shoe stolen out of your bag?

[quote=savepros321;1390028]are you saying that i made up the story of them telling me i cannot take my travel-sized umbrella on the airplane (there by confirep001ing it), and that my digital camera some how sprouted legs and unzipped its self from my camera pouch and walked off on its own? [/quote]

theft of checked luggage is a routine, everyday occurrence throughout latin america and africa. last time going to colombia they gave me an extra thing to put on my bag to lock it. (which is no big deal because the zipper can be opened without taking the lock off [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf-dgkunffi[/url]) if i recall correctly i was not able to take my umbrella out of dublin as well. the only thing i have had confirep001ed out of pop was my afro pick.

"outside the united states, risk assessment experts say, some airports in latin america and africa are known for high rates of theft, with airport security personnel and even government officials sometimes working with the thieves."

"in africa, johan breytenbach, an analyst on ijet's africa team, said that theft at the johannesburg airport, africa's busiest with more than 13 million passengers a year, occurs daily. in may, a network of thieves that included security guards and airport employees was found to be working the airport. in nigeria, security officials and airport employees were also involved in large-scale theft networks." [url]http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/09/04/business/04theft.html?_r=0[/url]

[quote=savepros321; 1390028]are you saying that i made up the story of them telling me i cannot take my travel-sized umbrella on the airplane (there by confirep001ing it) , and that my digital camera some how sprouted legs and unzipped its self from my camera pouch and walked off on its own?

apparently you have never been to sosua. i guess being shaken down by tourist police isn't your definition of "hassling tourist". jarmondy would probably disagree with you.

[i]"the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."[/i]

- albert einstein[/quote]"never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level and beat you with experience". will rogers.

you forgot he got an amish bowl cut at the barber and went and got the cops, his barber and his drug dealer were side by side.

there have been many incidences in the us of handlers stealing. so carry your valuables with you. o yes there is corruption but the little guys pay for it if they are caught. tourism is serious shit in the dr and i have been to sosua many times and never had any issues. if you do something stupid yes you can be fucked with. i see the guys fucking with locals but tourist never seen in my dozen or more trips.

[quote=mr enternational; 1390039]theft of checked luggage is a routine, everyday occurrence throughout latin america and africa. last time going to colombia they gave me an extra thing to put on my bag to lock it. (which is no big deal because the zipper can be opened without taking the lock off.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf-dgkunffi[/url]

) if i recall correctly i was not able to take my umbrella out of dublin as well. the only thing i have had confirep001ed out of pop was my afro pick.

"outside the united states, risk assessment experts say, some airports in latin america and africa are known for high rates of theft, with airport security personnel and even government officials sometimes working with the thieves."

"in africa, johan breytenbach, an analyst on ijet's africa team, said that theft at the johannesburg airport, africa's busiest with more than 13 million passengers a year, occurs daily. in may, a network of thieves that included security guards and airport employees was found to be working the airport. in nigeria, security officials and airport employees were also involved in large-scale theft networks."

[url]http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/09/04/business/04theft.html?_r=0[/url][/quote]

From what I can gather, it was legit stuff. And I read it on LP.

Funny I have never had a problem in Colombia but have had lots in Cuba, including my luggage coming off the conveyor belt wide open.

A buddy who works in Africa and former Soviet Union tells me that Africa is bad but in the former Soviet countries, they open your luggage in front of you and take whatever they want before allowing you into the country.

[quote=beersterry;1389713]i've been reading on a travel forum that customs / aduana at the pop airport have been absolute pricks to people. basically confirep001ing anything and everything they wanted from you. any verification here?[/quote]i have made at least three trips per year through pop for the last 8 years and only once have i been stopped for a search and i just smiled and said in spanish," it's not necessary" and they waved me through. while i am waiting for my bag to show up i observe if they are searching and then hold back and wait until a whole bunch of people are leaving and then just trail along behind and get waved through.

When I was moving down to DR about 3 years ago, I would bring 3 body bag style bags with around 70 LBS of goods, from microwaves to ceiling fans as checked luggage, I did this several times. Nothing ever got stolen and 20 bucks inside my passport with the customs form got it through without checking every single time.

It now seems like things are a bit cracked down from a few years ago, but I've been checked (several times) , never robbed and never rejected.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1390037]They won't lose their job because their superiors are more crooked than they are, it is the way of life down there. Look at all the corruption in the Dominican government, it is rampant.[/QUOTE]Stamford, Connecticut based Starwood Hotels and Resorts Worldwide, Inc, will have three hotels in the Dominican Republic by the end of the year; Four Points by Sheraton Puntacana Village, The Westin Puntacana Resort and Sheraton Santo Domingo Hotel.

[url]http://www.starwoodhotels.com/fourpoints/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=3684[/url]

[url]http://www.starwoodhotels.com/westin/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=3805[/url]

[url]http://www.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/directory/hotels/all/do/detail.html?sortType=[/url]

Starwood Hotels and Resorts Worldwide, Inc. is a well run company with an intelligent management team.

In the past you posted that you dislike John F. Kennedy International Airport. Attached is a recent photo of a tricked out jetBlue aircraft parked at the JFK airport, with the Boston Red Sox colors and markings. Maybe you dislike the Boston Red Sox baseball team because of the 100s of millions of dollars they paid to Dominican baseball players (Pedro Martinez, David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez) who helped Boston end an 86 year drought without a baseball championship. Maybe you would have preferred if Boston had players from Colombia instead.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1390968]Stamford, Connecticut based Starwood Hotels and Resorts Worldwide, Inc, will have three hotels in the Dominican Republic by the end of the year; Four Points by Sheraton Puntacana Village, The Westin Puntacana Resort and Sheraton Santo Domingo Hotel.

[url]http://www.starwoodhotels.com/fourpoints/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=3684[/url]

[url]http://www.starwoodhotels.com/westin/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=3805[/url]

[url]http://www.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/directory/hotels/all/do/detail.html?sortType=[/url]

Starwood Hotels and Resorts Worldwide, Inc. Is a well run company with an intelligent management team.

In the past you posted that you dislike John F. Kennedy International Airport. Attached is a recent photo of a tricked out jetBlue aircraft parked at the JFK airport, with the Boston Red Sox colors and markings. Maybe you dislike the Boston Red Sox baseball team because of the 100s of millions of dollars they paid to Dominican baseball players (Pedro Martinez, David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez) who helped Boston end an 86 year drought without a baseball championship. Maybe you would have preferred if Boston had players from Colombia instead.[/QUOTE]Here we go again.

I have the right to dislike an airport if I want to. The reason I dislike JFK is it takes me longer to get in and out vs. Boston, no biggie.

I am a huge Sox fan and could care less what country the players are from.

Colombia's government is corrupt also, that doesn't take away from the fact that the DR government is corrupt as all hell, anybody that thinks it isn't has their head stuck in the sand. If you read my post I mentioned that I NEVER had anything stolen from my bags in the DR but DID have things stolen on a regular basis from my bags in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1391307]I am a huge Sox fan.[/QUOTE]As in the US, pretty women attend baseball games in the DR. Current and former big league baseball players can be seen at the winter league games in the DR (they often sign autographs and pose for pictures with the fans). Cost to attend a game in the DR can cost less than $2US (depending on the game and the stadium).

[quote=manizales911; 1390037]they won't lose their job because their superiors are more crooked than they are, it is the way of life down there. look at all the corruption in the dominican government, it is rampant.

that said, i haven't had anything stolen or confirep001ed in over 20 trips through dominican customs but colombia is a whole different story. i have had clothes stolen many times and the bottle of hot sauce i always travel with only makes it about 50% of the time, hahaha. i never put any electronics or anything of value in my checked bags, ever, that's just a given regardless of where the heck one travels.

hey gogo, wasn't it you that had one shoe stolen out of your bag?[/quote]no! they stole a pair of gucci sandals and some expensive cologne. so to prevent this i would put each shoe in different bags never as a pair. i figure they wouldn't take the time to go thru the other bags for a match. well on one trip they put sand in my luggage as payback. how the fuck did they get sand in an airport?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1391543]How the fuck did they get sand in an airport?[/QUOTE]Probably fell out of their brains through their earholes.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1391543]No! They stole a pair of Gucci sandals and some expensive cologne. So to prevent this I would put each shoe in different bags never as a pair. I figure they wouldn't take the time to go thru the other bags for a match. Well on one trip they put sand in my luggage as payback. How the fuck did they get sand in an airport?[/QUOTE]Did the acts occur in the Puerto Plata airport or at the other airport used during your trip?

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1392025]Did the acts occur in the Puerto Plata airport or at the other airport used during your trip?[/QUOTE]At SDQ they got my sandals and POP they got cologne.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1392050]At SDQ they got my sandals and POP they got cologne.[/QUOTE]How do you know for certain the items were taken at the SDQ or POP airport? And you know for certain that the items were not stolen at the airport you departed from or arrived at, located in the United States (I presume)? TSA has fired workers in the United States for stealing from passengers. Maybe there was a tracking device in the sandals and the cologne which pinpointed their location as being in the DR, when they were no longer in your luggage.

February 27. Many people have the day off from work today.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1392147]How do you know for certain the items were taken at the SDQ or POP airport? And you know for certain that the items were not stolen at the airport you departed from or arrived at, located in the United States (I presume)? TSA has fired workers in the United States for stealing from passengers. Maybe there was a tracking device in the sandals and the cologne which pinpointed their location as being in the DR, when they were no longer in your luggage.[/QUOTE]Cmon Jao I was trying to be nice to even answer your question. Please stop that bullshit, nobody has time for it. I think it more than likely that a person in the DR would steal an 80usd bottle of cologne than someone in the States losing their job over an 80usd bottle of cologne. Duh! I would have known if they were stolen from the airport going over, because I wouldn't have had them in the DR. All I know is that I had them when I arrived in the DR and I didn't have them when I got home.

If you want to continue with this stupid shit then don't reply to any of my posts. You get robbed and shaken down everytime you are in the DR so stop defending the bullshit. The police have a BOLO (be on look out) on you everytime you arrive but you want to defend them, stop it dude. You are really pissing me off because I have tried to E-mail you and be cool with you but you keep turning your ass up and being difficult. STOP IT MAN.

Usually stay in Sosua but spending a couple of nights in Santiago for the first time. Any suggestions for a cheap place to stay?

Thanks my Brothers!

Wondering where the best place to buy the, blue pill, in bulk, in Sosua is? Heard there's a little latin market sells them cheap. Just wanted to confirm.

[QUOTE=Mongerman69;1392506]Wondering where the best place to buy the, blue pill, in bulk, in Sosua is? Heard there's a little latin market sells them cheap. Just wanted to confirm.[/QUOTE]Yea price went up a little but there is a discount for 3 or more boxes I think. Foto is Frannies.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004afc37912917c547ae[/url]

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1392512]Yea price went up a little but there is a discount for 3 or more boxes I think. Foto is Frannies.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004afc37912917c547ae[/url][/QUOTE]Has anybody tried these pills. What do why'all think about Lapela.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1392512]Yea price went up a little but there is a discount for 3 or more boxes I think. Foto is Frannies.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004afc37912917c547ae[/url][/QUOTE]Box of 96, 100mg = 1 mil. 3 boxes = 2100. They work great for me without side effects. Pharmacy bargain o the century.

[QUOTE=Sidney;1392586]Box of 96, 100mg = 1 mil. 3 boxes = 2100. They work great for me without side effects. Pharmacy bargain o the century.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Stebo419;1392538]Has anybody tried these pills. What do why'all think about Lapela.[/QUOTE]I got them all sitting in front of me now, the 100mg generic viagra is what works for me 20 minutes before hand, that way I can pound railroad spikes with it if I need to, those others Mambo and Lepela I don't like to use and come up short when I am paying.

That generic V in Sosua is 25 percent of the cost in Colombia, so I stock up while I am there.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1392512]Yea price went up a little but there is a discount for 3 or more boxes I think. Foto is Frannies.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004afc37912917c547ae[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel, bud. They have gone up quite a bit. Think they were 9 cents a pill, last year. The cialis in new. Guess the patent finally ran out?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1392255]I think it more than likely that a person in the DR would steal an 80usd bottle of cologne than someone in the States losing their job over an 80usd bottle of cologne.[/QUOTE]From ABC News: "The Top 20 Airports for TSA Theft. At the head of the list is Miami International Airport, which ranks twelfth in passengers but first in TSA theft firings, with 29 employees terminated for theft from 2002 through December 2011." [url]http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/top-20-airports-tsa-theft/story?id=17537887[/url]

[QUOTE=Mattco; 1392292]Usually stay in Sosua but spending a couple of nights in Santiago for the first time. Any suggestions for a cheap place to stay?

Thanks my Brothers![/QUOTE]I stayed one night, years ago at Hotel Platino (I posted photos before). It is on Avenida Estrella Sadhala, across the street from PUCMM University. Price for one person is around $47US, price for two is around $58US. They also have more expensive rooms. [url]http://www.hotelplatinord.com/tarifas.html[/url]

Airbnb has various listings for Santiago.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1392652]From ABC News: "The Top 20 Airports for TSA Theft. At the head of the list is Miami International Airport, which ranks twelfth in passengers but first in TSA theft firings, with 29 employees terminated for theft from 2002 through December 2011."

[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/top-20-airports-tsa-theft/story?id=17537887[/url][/QUOTE]The difference is as I mentioned before is that in the DR (yes Jao, Colombia too) the airport workers are supervised by bigger thieves than they are. Does anyone believe that if one of the workers in an airport in a third world country was caught lifting something out of a bag that they would get fired, hell no, they would get a "high five" by their fellow thieves. Thinking that any criminal acts of any kind is less apt to happen in any third world country than happen in the USA is absolutely ludicrous.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1392703]The difference is as I mentioned before is that in the DR (yes Jao, Colombia too) the airport workers are supervised by bigger thieves than they are. Does anyone believe that if one of the workers in an airport in a third world country was caught lifting something out of a bag that they would get fired, hell no, they would get a "high five" by their fellow thieves. Thinking that any criminal acts of any kind is less apt to happen in any third world country than happen in the USA is absolutely ludicrous.[/QUOTE]You seem to state that all DR workers and their bosses are thieves, what keeps them from stealing from every piece of luggage at the airport?

How many workers in foreign airports got blamed for stealing, for thefts that actually occurred in US airports?

Some thieves are beaten, shot and killed in the streets in the DR. Being beaten, shot and possibly killed, might be a bit of a deterrent to some would be thieves. (you can search in youtube, there are videos showing what happens to some thieves in the DR).

You seem to mostly visit Sosua and Puerto Plata (Costambar) and probably most, if not all Dominicans you deal with are in the p4p trade.

I wonder what some people in foreign countries think of the state of connecticut, after seeing the recent news out of Newtown. I have never seen a Dominican enter a school and murder 20 children, or murder people in a movie theater (aurora) or blow up a truck loaded with fertilizer (Oklahoma City) or murder fellow students in another school (Columbine) or murder over 60 young people as occurred in Norway.

If it makes you feel good to feel superior to Dominicans, that is your choice. (Dom Rep is predominantly populated by non-white, non-rich people)

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1392717]You seem to state that all DR workers and their bosses are thieves, what keeps them from stealing from every piece of luggage at the airport?

How many workers in foreign airports got blamed for stealing, for thefts that actually occurred in US airports?

Some thieves are beaten, shot and killed in the streets in the DR. Being beaten, shot and possibly killed, might be a bit of a deterrent to some would be thieves. (you can search in youtube, there are videos showing what happens to some thieves in the DR).

You seem to mostly visit Sosua and Puerto Plata (Costambar) and probably most, if not all Dominicans you deal with are in the p4p trade.

I wonder what some people in foreign countries think of the state of connecticut, after seeing the recent news out of Newtown. I have never seen a Dominican enter a school and murder 20 children, or murder people in a movie theater (aurora) or blow up a truck loaded with fertilizer (Oklahoma City) or murder fellow students in another school (Columbine) or murder over 60 young people as occurred in Norway.

If it makes you feel good to feel superior to Dominicans, that is your choice. (Dom Rep is predominantly populated by non-white, non-rich people) [/QUOTE]Yes, most of the time I go to the north coast because yes, I am going there for P4P, I'm not afraid to admit it. I don't try to convince myself that the "non-pros" I sleep with are angels. I have traveled all over the DR, probably at least as much as anyone on this forum. And I tried to keep my statements geared towards all third world countries. I have traveled to at least twenty of them and it is the same everywhere, poverty breeds desperation and thus crime particularly theft but you wouldn't know because you haven't been to anywhere near as many countries as I have. You can ridicule Colombia all you want, you have no idea what you are missing there sir, try it, you might like it, you don't have the balls. How many times have I read members report that they preferred the DR over Colombia, NEVER. I have read the reverse many times.

Look at the DR through rose colored glasses all you want but when you finally take them off it is the same broke ass third world country we all have grown to love and hate sometimes.

In order to not disrespect the forum I will refrain from further comment.

The people that get beaten and killed for being thieves in the DR stole from other Dominicans Einstein, not Americans.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1392733]In order to not disrespect the forum I will refrain from further comment.[/QUOTE]Excellent, thank you.

i have rented a car during more than 25 trips in the dominican republic, over more than 10 years. for more than 15 trips while driving in the dom rep, i was never stopped by police or anyone else. during about 3-4 trips i was stopped at least 4 times. i was never forced or coerced to pay any money as a result of driving in the dr. i was driving with revere one morning and got a flat, two policia nacional drove by on a motorcycle, stopped to make sure all was ok and they changed the car's tire. my past trip, february 2013, i was stopped one time by an amet officer (motor vehicle law enforcement in the dr). he asked to see my driver's license, i had my new york state driver's license in my shirt pocket, i gave it to him, he looked at it and i was on my way in less than a minute from when he asked me to stop. he was stationed at the same intersection, the days i drove by and he was stopping dominicans as well. policia nacional also stop dominicans. many municipal workers in the dr do not make much money, i have on occasion given a tip to some friendly and nice policia nacional. my last three trips in the dr, i was stopped at most once per trip. there is a push to confirep001e illegal firearms, during stops in the dr some policia nacional are looking for illegal firearms, which i have no problem with.

i have driven to various neighborhoods in the dr at all hours of the day and night and never had a problem, never felt threatened. i drive with the driver's window open, most of the time, with my left arm leaning out slightly. during one trip, while i was staying in santo domingo, i decided to visit isg member charles pooter in puerto plata. i started the trip around 11am, had a dominicana i met online meet me at carrefour on autopista duarte for 10 minutes, then drove to moca during a heavy rain, not a problem. the dominicana in moca brought along a friend for the trip to puerto plata. i drove to puerto plata, met pooter on the malecon. he showed me where blackbeards was, visited blackbeards for less than 10 minutes and then had dinner in a restaurant outside the gates to costambar, in the dark (power was out and there were no lights). after dinner, drove pooter to where he lived. then drove to passions in santiago with the two dominicanas from moca. passions was quiet because it was early, so the three of us drove to a cabana in santiago. after the cabana, drove to moca, dropped off the two mocanas and drove back to santo domingo. entered santo domingo around 6am. highway between santiago and santo domingo is four lanes (two each direction), in good shape. the main roads in santo domingo have street lights and the times i have driven in santo domingo the street lights have always been on. most of the streets are in good shape, some are brand new.

being in the dominican republic, if i want the mountains i can easily drive to constanza, where some homes have fireplaces, because it can get chilly at night. freshwater streams in constanza, with water that is a little cold. east, west and north out of santo domingo are 4 lane roads in good shape. other factors, the dr has no ongoing 49 year old civil war (colombia). the dr has no history of kidnappings (colombia). the dr has no production of cocaine (colombia). when i am on vacation i like to see the beach and occasionally go for swim at the beach, i generally don't want to be in the industrial heartland of a country (medellin). this is the dominican republic forum so i'll try not to post much about colombia. the author who wrote black hawk down, also wrote a book entitled: "killing pablo: the hunt for the world's greatest outlaw" the first chapter is available online and gives a brief history of colombia: [url]http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/b/bowden-01pablo.html[/url]

when i drive in the dr, i like to listen to music from cds i made or buy before the trip (dj tatana, tribute to trance). this past trip i brought along a diffuser that plugs into the car's cigarette lighter outlet. frankincense and myrrh appear in the bible and are sometimes the scents that are in catholic churches. frankincense oil (now) and myrrh oil can be purchased online at amazon, to be used in the diffuser, to give the interior of the car a nice scent (a larger diffuser, scent ball plugin, is available for the hotel room). when i drive in the dr i use sunglasses from the company native eyewear, polarized lens with a grey tint, vents on the frame keep the lens from fogging (can be purchased online at the outlet section of rei.com).

i have gotten blowjobs in the car about three times while in sosua and gotten head while driving, and when parked at the beach with no people around in dom rep.

[quote=jaosousa; 1393274]i have rented a car during more than 25 trips in the dominican republic, over more than 10 years. for more than 15 trips while driving in the dom rep, i was never stopped by police or anyone else. during about 3-4 trips i was stopped at least 4 times. i was never forced or coerced to pay any money as a result of driving in the dr. i was driving with revere one morning and got a flat, two policia nacional drove by on a motorcycle, stopped to make sure all was ok and they changed the car's tire. my past trip, february 2013, i was stopped one time by an amet officer (motor vehicle law enforcement in the dr). he asked to see my driver's license, i had my new york state driver's license in my shirt pocket, i gave it to him, he looked at it and i was on my way in less than a minute from when he asked me to stop. he was stationed at the same intersection, the days i drove by and he was stopping dominicans as well. policia nacional also stop dominicans. many municipal workers in the dr do not make much money, i have on occasion given a tip to some friendly and nice policia nacional. my last three trips in the dr, i was stopped at most once per trip. there is a push to confirep001e illegal firearms, during stops in the dr some policia nacional are looking for illegal firearms, which i have no problem with.

i have driven to various neighborhoods in the dr at all hours of the day and night and never had a problem, never felt threatened. i drive with the driver's window open, most of the time, with my left arm leaning out slightly. during one trip, while i was staying in santo domingo, i decided to visit isg member charles pooter in puerto plata. i started the trip around 11am, had a dominicana i met online meet me at carrefour on autopista duarte for 10 minutes, then drove to moca during a heavy rain, not a problem. the dominicana in moca brought along a friend for the trip to puerto plata. i drove to puerto plata, met pooter on the malecon. he showed me where blackbeards was, visited blackbeards for less than 10 minutes and then had dinner in a restaurant outside the gates to costambar, in the dark (power was out and there were no lights). after dinner, drove pooter to where he lived. then drove to passions in santiago with the two dominicanas from moca. passions was quiet because it was early, so the three of us drove to a cabana in santiago. after the cabana, drove to moca, dropped off the two mocanas and drove back to santo domingo. entered santo domingo around 6am. highway between santiago and santo domingo is four lanes (two each direction) , in good shape. the main roads in santo domingo have street lights and the times i have driven in santo domingo the street lights have always been on. most of the streets are in good shape, some are brand new.[/quote]excellent information jao and thanks for sharing with us. can you share some more insight with sd newbies such as myself? :

-how many trips to sd did you take before you were comfortable enough to start driving there?

-do you get your rental cars from the airport? if so, what company would you recommend?

-what is the name of the insurance you should buy ("casa del conductor?")

-also, is gps of any use in the dr?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1393288]Can you share some more?[/QUOTE]Thanks amigo, some pics from the beach (playa).

Jao is a pros pro. I have about 10 trips to the DR in in 3 years but only rented once in SD. My girl friend provided directions and I was able go where I needed. However driving in SD is a sport, There are some rules to the road that you need to learn very fast. Depending on where you are gong streets can be terrible. Huge pots holes. I was charged for minor pot hole damage. 300 dollars. I think it was a scam but could not prove anything. After that one time I decided I could get where I needed to go with taxi and pub trans. Unless you are on a high level of mongering a car can be a liability. IMHO I stay close to the venues where the fun is. If you are going to out of the way places for your girls then a car can be an asset but for basic puta hunting you will not need it. For me traveling like a local is fun and you can meet regular girls.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1393288]Excellent information Jao and thanks for sharing with us. Can you share some more insight with SD newbies such as myself? :

-How many trips to SD did you take before you were comfortable enough to start driving there?

-Do you get your rental cars from the airport? If so, what company would you recommend?

-What is the name of the insurance you should buy ("Casa del conductor?")

-Also, is GPS of any use in the DR?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1393479]Jao is a pros pro. I have about 10 trips to the DR in in 3 years but only rented once in SD. My girl friend provided directions and I was able go where I needed. However driving in SD is a sport, There are some rules to the road that you need to learn very fast. Depending on where you are gong streets can be terrible. Huge pots holes. I was charged for minor pot hole damage. 300 dollars. I think it was a scam but could not prove anything. After that one time I decided I could get where I needed to go with taxi and pub trans. Unless you are on a high level of mongering a car can be a liability. IMHO I stay close to the venues where the fun is. If you are going to out of the way places for your girls then a car can be an asset but for basic puta hunting you will not need it. For me traveling like a local is fun and you can meet regular girls.[/QUOTE]I have never seen the need to drive my own car (from POP) or rent while in SD. Taxis will take you almost anywhere in the city for 200 pesos ($5) and usually get you there quicker as they tend to know all the back streets. Why fight the traffic, risk accident or missing manhole cover damage just to maybe save a few dollars. IMHO. Not worth it.

On another note. My novia has a small car rental business on the North Coast and she carries the highest level of insurance she can get on her cars. I asked her insurance guy if she should add casa de conducteur insurance and he said it is not worth paying for it as the police will only recognise it if you are Dominican, not sure if that is true but he should know and he had no reason to bullshit me.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1393274]When I drive in the DR, I like to listen to music from CDs I made or buy before the trip (DJ Tatana, Tribute to Trance). This past trip I brought along a diffuser that plugs into the car's cigarette lighter outlet. Frankincense and Myrrh appear in the Bible and are sometimes the scents that are in Catholic Churches. Frankincense oil (Now) and Myrrh oil can be purchased online at amazon, to be used in the diffuser, to give the interior of the car a nice scent (a larger diffuser, scent ball plugin, is available for the hotel room). When I drive in the DR I use sunglasses from the company Native Eyewear, polarized lens with a grey tint, vents on the frame keep the lens from fogging (can be purchased online at the outlet section of rei. Com).

I have gotten blowjobs in the car about three times while in sosua and gotten head while driving, and when parked at the beach with no people around in Dom Rep.[/QUOTE]Excellent information. I too have worn sunglasses while driving in the Dr. I also wear Rockport shoes, they can be bought online but I prefer to buy mine in person so I can try them on first. Which scent do you find the chicas prefer for your car? I always find that if you can please them right away it leads to a better performance later in the cama.

[QUOTE=Llttf; 1393491]I have never seen the need to drive my own car (from POP) or rent while in SD. Taxis will take you almost anywhere in the city for 200 pesos ($5) and usually get you there quicker as they tend to know all the back streets. Why fight the traffic, risk accident or missing manhole cover damage just to maybe save a few dollars. IMHO. Not worth it.

On another note. My novia has a small car rental business on the North Coast and she carries the highest level of insurance she can get on her cars. I asked her insurance guy if she should add casa de conducteur insurance and he said it is not worth paying for it as the police will only recognise it if you are Dominican, not sure if that is true but he should know and he had no reason to bullshit me.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for this info!

I am rolling out in two weeks with 2 wingmen. Black Gomer Pyle and a newbie friend from my gym who has been waiting 3 years to go. We are hitting Sosua first on a Monday night and SD on the weekend with some non pros. I am so stoked. 19 year old pussy is beautiful thing. I am schooling my boy the newbie. Gomer is on his own. I just hope I can keep the Mifiaosa chicas off of him. He is as green as grass. Last trip I hooked him up with very sexy non.pro friend. He wanted to write her letters, not email. The build up is so much fun. Reading post and looking at pictures of chicas. Yaaaaa!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1393288]Excellent information Jao and thanks for sharing with us. Can you share some more insight with SD newbies such as myself? :[/QUOTE]I am not Jao and do not pretend to have his depth of knowledge but I will provide my two pesos worth.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1393288]-How many trips to SD did you take before you were comfortable enough to start driving there?[/QUOTE]Have been to the DR 10 times started driving on my third trip. Gets easier each trip but I try to not let down my guard and become complacent. When I was a kid my dad used to get to gawking and run off the road. I try not to be that driver but the older I get the harder it becomes. Sometimes I have to remind myself where I am and pull over to look at the scenery rather than become my fathers son.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1393288]-Do you get your rental cars from the airport? If so, what company would you recommend?[/QUOTE]I have rented exclusively from Budget in SDQ, STI and POP. One time I rented a car at STI and had a flat in PP. The Budget guy at POP handled everything for me and I got a new tire at the Hertz rental in PP. Was hit by a motorcycle in Cabrette and the Budget people were there for me with a lawyer contacting the local police on my behalf. The credit card paid the repairs on the car $800 after $250 deductible and the liability insurance from Budget paid for the motorcycle $200 and $20 clinic visit. I have not tried other rental agencies but recommend Budget. The economy car in SDQ is the Kia Rio and they have the Hyundai Elantra in POP and STI. I prefer the Rio the Elantra I had in STI was mostly worn out and needed new tires. The Kia in SDQ was brand new two years ago and had 17 KM on the odometer.

I was told by the lady at Budget in SDQ that Hertz and Budget are owned by the same people.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1393288]-What is the name of the insurance you should buy ("Casa del conductor?")[/QUOTE]I use the Comprehensive from using my AMEX card. I take the liability, tire and glass insurance from Budget. This adds about $15 per day to my rental fees but worth it for the Peace of Mind.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1393288]-Also, is GPS of any use in the DR?[/QUOTE]I use a Garmin GPS with Dominican maps from GPS Travel Maps.

[url]http://www.gpstravelmaps.com/dominican_republic.php[/url]

Budget has GPS's for rent with their cars but I have not inquired about the price. Before each trip I plan my routes and upload the routes and points of interest to my GPS before leaving. This way I get the route I want and not necessarily the shortest as chosen by the GPS. For example the best route from SDQ to Sosua / PP is to use the toll road and through Nagua (in my opinion) but the GPS routes you through SD and Santiago since that is the shorter route. Problem is you have to drive through traffic so the over all trip takes longer then driving up the coast from Nagua.

I would not like trying to drive in the DR without a GPS. I have used mine to route myself all over the island and around SD. I do not like driving in city traffic so I avoid SD whenever possible but last trip I need to pick up a friend in downtown SD and the GPS routed me into and out of the city without many problems. Having the GPS helps in that I can pay attention to the driving and not worry so much about getting lost.

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker; 1393583]Have been to the DR 10 times started driving on my third trip. Gets easier each trip but I try to not let down my guard and become complacent. When I was a kid my dad used to get to gawking and run off the road. I try not to be that driver but the older I get the harder it becomes. Sometimes I have to remind myself where I am and pull over to look at the scenery rather than become my fathers son.

I have rented exclusively from Budget in SDQ, STI and POP. One time I rented a car at STI and had a flat in PP. The Budget guy at POP handled everything for me and I got a new tire at the Hertz rental in PP. Was hit by a motorcycle in Cabrette and the Budget people were there for me with a lawyer contacting the local police on my behalf. The credit card paid the repairs on the car $800 after $250 deductible and the liability insurance from Budget paid for the motorcycle $200 and $20 clinic visit. I have not tried other rental agencies but recommend Budget. The economy car in SDQ is the Kia Rio and they have the Hyundai Elantra in POP and STI. I prefer the Rio the Elantra I had in STI was mostly worn out and needed new tires. The Kia in SDQ was brand new two years ago and had 17 KM on the odometer.

I was told by the lady at Budget in SDQ that Hertz and Budget are owned by the same people.

I use the Comprehensive from using my AMEX card. I take the liability, tire and glass insurance from Budget. This adds about $15 per day to my rental fees but worth it for the Peace of Mind.

I use a Garmin GPS with Dominican maps from GPS Travel Maps.

[url]http://www.gpstravelmaps.com/dominican_republic.php[/url]

Budget has GPS's for rent with their cars but I have not inquired about the price. Before each trip I plan my routes and upload the routes and points of interest to my GPS before leaving. This way I get the route I want and not necessarily the shortest as chosen by the GPS. For example the best route from SDQ to Sosua / PP is to use the toll road and through Nagua (in my opinion) but the GPS routes you through SD and Santiago since that is the shorter route. Problem is you have to drive through traffic so the over all trip takes longer then driving up the coast from Nagua.

I would not like trying to drive in the DR without a GPS. I have used mine to route myself all over the island and around SD. I do not like driving in city traffic so I avoid SD whenever possible but last trip I need to pick up a friend in downtown SD and the GPS routed me into and out of the city without many problems. Having the GPS helps in that I can pay attention to the driving and not worry so much about getting lost.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bogiemaker! That's exactly the information I was looking for and I (as well as the board) appreciate the in-depth reply. 5 star post bro!

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker;1393583]I am not Jao[/QUOTE]We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance (Japanese proverb).

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1393636]Thanks Bogiemaker! That's exactly the information I was looking for and I (as well as the board) appreciate the in-depth reply. 5 star post bro![/QUOTE]Bogiemaker's response was excellent.

I always book the rental car online before a trip, at least 24 hours before my arrival in the DR. Coupon codes that say they are for the Caribbean or Latin America usually work on the major rental car company's websites when renting in the DR. For Puerto Rico, Hertz had rentals starting at $15US per day. For the DR, I used a 20% off code for Latin America that is on Alamo's website (I join the various major car rental companies for free and they email their members specials, etc). I always print out the reservation I made online and show it to the worker at the car rental counter, so he knows what I should be charged for the rental (you may want to do the arithmetic before you travel and convert the reserved price into pesos, any receipts or credit card slips will show the price in pesos). Always check your account after a trip, I have been overcharged by Alamo and Avis (the corporate offices in the United States of those two companies have always gotten the overcharges corrected). Also check your account for any fraudulent activity whenever you use your card in the DR.

ISG member Professor has posted that Hertz has casa de conductors insurance. ISG member Helpmann has posted before don't rent from Hertz in the DR. I have visited the Hertz website to see what the prices they offer for renting in the DR, what I don't like about Hertz for the DR is that the price of additional insurance is not given, it says inquire at the car rental desk. I like to know exactly what the total price will be and have it in writing (including glass and tire coverage and third party liability coverage). I have rented more than 20 times with alamo / national at the SDQ (santo domingo airport) and was never overcharged. I know most of the guys who work there. This past trip I used La Romana Airport and rented with Alamo, Wednesday to Saturday (Nissan Tiida, glass, tire and 3rd party liability insurance) the total price was $124US. Snowstorm cancelled my flight, I called Alamo and asked them how much if I kept the car an additional two days and returned it to a different airport (SDQ) , the price would be $100 and something (turned out to be $145US). Back in the US I checked my credit card statement and the charge for the additional two days was abut 3x what it should have been. Alamo corporate office in St. Louis, Missouri was professional about correcting the overcharge. I did not have any paperwork for the additional two days, saying in writing what the additional charge would be (all I had was what the Alamo guy on the phone told me would be the price for the extra days). I have added days before with alamo and not been overcharged.

Alamo/National is open 24/7 at the SDQ airport. La Romana airport has hertz maybe Avis and maybe nelly at the airport (seems the cars might be kept at casa de campo, a ten minute ride from the airport). Alamo has no office at the la romana airport, an alamo worker came to the airport and then drove me to the gates of casa de campo, to do the paperwork for the car and get the car.

Driving into Santo Domingo from the SDQ airport, I'll post a response in the Santo Domingo section.

[quote=llttf;1393494]excellent information. i too have worn sunglasses while driving in the dr. i also wear rockport shoes, they can be bought online but i prefer to buy mine in person so i can try them on first. which scent do you find the chicas prefer for your car? i always find that if you can please them right away it leads to a better performance later in the cama.[/quote]dsw stores have a good selection and the one near where i live has a clearance section with up to 70% off. dsw now has a luxury section on its website which includes discounted gucci shoes for three hundred dollars: [url]http://www.dsw.com/luxe810/collection/men%2527s%2bbrands / men%2527s%2bgucci / dsw12cat1780026 / page-1/[/url]

some dr chicas like puma and converse, which can sometimes be purchased at the clearance section of marshalls or tj maxx for around $20us. also high heel (stripper like shoes) at the aforementioned stores for not a lot of money, in case you want to have a favorita wear the high heels and nothing else, while she stands in front of a sex apparatus in a cabana, while you enter from behind.

100% grapefruit oil [url]http://www.amazon.com/now-foods-grapefruit-oil/dp/b0002rx6gg/ref=sr_1_9?s=hpc&ie=utf8&qid=1362501660&sr=1-9&keywords=grapefruit[/url]+oil has a good scent in the car diffuser [url]http://www.amazon.com/car-diffuser-aromatherapy-1-count/dp/b0007ocl4m/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=utf8&qid=1362505744&sr=1-1&keywords=car[/url]+diffuser

Want to pick some of the brains on these forums for a sec.

Corruption-I've done a lot of reading in the DR threads about the corruption and set-ups between the putas and policia [and thankfully had a safe trip not running into any extortion while I was there thanks to this forum. ] Most of the puta / policia tag-teams seem only to be in Sosua from what I've read. Is it equally as risky in SD, and also, in Cartagena, Colombia? Worse in CTG maybe?

Spanish-I'm now trying to learn Spanish and have the basic Rosetta Stone 1-3 Spanish [Spain, ] to learn from. Will this suffice for DR, as well as, Colombia too? Does anyone know a good foreign film website where I can watch Spanish films online that will help me pick up the language when I'm not studying?

Speaking English outside Sosua-there were plenty of expats and hard-core puta chicas in Sosua that spoke English. I was able to get by with the rest with my basic / broken Spanish no problem. At what level of proficiency would you recommend I be able to speak at before venturing out into Santo Domingo or Puerto Plata to try my luck with semi-pros / regular girls, or even the city in general.

[QUOTE=Trace79; 1394639]Want to pick some of the brains on these forums for a sec.

Corruption-I've done a lot of reading in the DR threads about the corruption and set-ups between the putas and policia [and thankfully had a safe trip not running into any extortion while I was there thanks to this forum. ] Most of the puta / policia tag-teams seem only to be in Sosua from what I've read. Is it equally as risky in SD, and also, in Cartagena, Colombia? Worse in CTG maybe?

Spanish-I'm now trying to learn Spanish and have the basic Rosetta Stone 1-3 Spanish [Spain, ] to learn from. Will this suffice for DR, as well as, Colombia too? Does anyone know a good foreign film website where I can watch Spanish films online that will help me pick up the language when I'm not studying?

Speaking English outside Sosua-there were plenty of expats and hard-core puta chicas in Sosua that spoke English. I was able to get by with the rest with my basic / broken Spanish no problem. At what level of proficiency would you recommend I be able to speak at before venturing out into Santo Domingo or Puerto Plata to try my luck with semi-pros / regular girls, or even the city in general.[/QUOTE]I would be vigilant but not overly worried or paranoid. I really haven't read many stories of policia tagging up with pros. As a general rule it is best not to get the policia involved with any dispute with a pro. For santo domingo there are reputable, long time p4p venues that have been in business for years with no major complaints. Some DR chicas study English and will be happy to practice their English with you.

Sometimes it is best to walk away from a losing situation even if it means you might lose some small amount money, I don't think there is a person that wins every battle.

Jetblue has New York to Cartagena, Colombia for $340 round-trip and JFK to SDQ for $370 and JFK to POP for $400 (two day sale).

Can anyone vist FOD for the bikini / wet tee contests or do you need a reservation? If I'm in Sosua is it even worth visiting for the experience?

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1394839]Jetblue has New York to Cartagena, Colombia for $340 round-trip and JFK to SDQ for $370 and JFK to POP for $400 (two day sale).[/QUOTE]Jetblue has JFK to CTG for $169US in April and May. Return flights start at $255 (round-trip $422). JFK to SDQ, $185 in April and May, return flights starting at $215 (round-trip $400).

[QUOTE=Trace79; 1394639]Want to pick some of the brains on these forums for a sec.

Spanish-I'm now trying to learn Spanish and have the basic Rosetta Stone 1-3 Spanish [Spain, ] to learn from. Will this suffice for DR, as well as, Colombia too? Does anyone know a good foreign film website where I can watch Spanish films online that will help me pick up the language when I'm not studying?[/QUOTE]Here are my considered thoughts:

1. Practice is necessary. One way to do this is by using chat sessions with women. However, you also want to learn from the right people and so people who know how to spell correctly and are more educated, are better for that. This helped me learn new vocabs and expressions used in the country and each country is different. In Spain, joder is to fuck but in the DR, it is to annoy. The native Spanish speakers especially Boricua online can chime in on this better.

2. Once I had some control over vocab and grammer, I was able to chat verbally but I warn you. The accent gets in the way (hers and yours) not to speak of phone static. A video call is perhaps better using skype or msn or facebook these days.

3. Netflix has plenty of Spanish language movies. Both from Spain and from Latin America.

I cannot make a call as to when's the right time to venture out. It may depend on a person's comfort level with things exotic so one may venture out without the language while others may stay put despite the language. I was out of Sosua my second trip. Three months after my first and I practiced.using the chat sessions.

There is no doubt on one thing in my mind: the experience gets better as you enhance your language skills: sex gets better with verbal communication but also you get lucky at some unexpected place which adds a lot more to the adrenaline flow than a sheer pay and go. I have been fortunate to experience some of this personally and the tales are told in some of my reports here.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1394868]3. Netflix has plenty of Spanish language movies. Both from Spain and from Latin America.[/QUOTE]Many Hollywood movies on DVD have a Spanish language track (some movies that you can rent or buy from itunes offer some other language tracks) and most if not all, have subtitles available in Spanish (some you can choose the Spanish language audio with English subtitles). The few times I have watched TV in the DR, some English language shows were shown with Spanish subtitles. Maybe there is a way to watch Spanish language shows in the US with English subtitles or vice versa (on television).

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1394942]Maybe there is a way to watch Spanish language shows in the US with English subtitles or vice versa (on television).[/QUOTE]There definitely is. My Mexicana has the feature on her cable where most shows are dubbed and subtitled English / Spanish. I'm sure it costs more, but if you need to learn pay it.

[QUOTE=Creasy;1394856]Can anyone vist FOD for the bikini / wet tee contests or do you need a reservation? If I'm in Sosua is it even worth visiting for the experience?[/QUOTE]No reservation. Just show up. Call ahead if there will be a contest.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1394942]Many Hollywood movies on DVD have a Spanish language track (some movies that you can rent or buy from itunes offer some other language tracks) and most if not all, have subtitles available in Spanish (some you can choose the Spanish language audio with English subtitles). The few times I have watched TV in the DR, some English language shows were shown with Spanish subtitles. Maybe there is a way to watch Spanish language shows in the US with English subtitles or vice versa (on television).[/QUOTE]I actually was referring to Netflix streaming service. I have stopped using DVDs so cannot speak about it. Those foreign movies give you the choice of subtitles. The Spanish TV channels (telemundo?) are BAD for me. Cannot manage to watch the skimpily clad women 24 hours so I give them a pass but it too is an option. You are right.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1395113]I actually was referring to Netflix streaming service. I have stopped using DVDs so cannot speak about it. Those foreign movies give you the choice of subtitles. The Spanish TV channels (telemundo?) are BAD for me. Cannot manage to watch the skimpily clad women 24 hours so I give them a pass but it too is an option. You are right.[/QUOTE]Does netflix streaming work in the DR? I am almost certain that HBO's internet streaming service (HBOgo) is blocked when in the DR. Amazon Instant Video has many movies available for free for prime members.

Walmart has $10 or less DVDs, with English and Spanish audio and subtitles (also French), for me its nice to have to put in a laptop for a Dominicana to watch during an extended visit.

teachers have turned down an offer of a 20% pay raise from their current salary which is less than 9000 pesos per month. they are asking for a 100% raise and say the minister of education should try living on rice, sardines, and salami.

10 people were killed the other day in a crash just outside puerto plata when returning from an evangelistic event on the back of a pick up truck. a tyre burst and the vehicle collided with a guagua. a santo domingo hospital official said that 65% of deaths in hospitals are in road deaths, and that 73% of victims are motor cyclists, many with severe head injuries. reasons for accidents are excessive speed, disregard of traffic rules, and abuse of alcohol and drugs. you have been warned.

kahuna bar in cabarete is looking for girls over 18 who must speak english.

Some British women go to the Dominican Republic to hook up with local guys in the DR. Sometimes those local guys get taken back to Britain. Not sure if any of those guys read this site, but as a public service announcement in case they are considering driving in Great Britain: "Is this Britain's most dangerous corner? Five cars crash at the same spot outside ancient cottages in just 12 hours" Feb 28, 2013: [url]http://www.usaukonline.com/latest-news/7419-is-this-britain-s-most-dangerous-corner-five-cars-crash-at-the-same-spot-outside-ancient-cottages-in-just-12-hours.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1395290]Does netflix streaming work in the DR? I am almost certain that HBO's internet streaming service (HBOgo) is blocked when in the DR. Amazon Instant Video has many movies available for free for prime members.

Walmart has $10 or less DVDs, with English and Spanish audio and subtitles (also French) , for me its nice to have to put in a laptop for a Dominicana to watch during an extended visit.[/QUOTE]Netflix does not stream into DR. However, I have VPN access into the UK from my company and I can get Netflix that way. When VPN'd in I get a UK IP address for the internet.

There is a movie rental place down here called moviemax, pretty cheap, like 100 pesos for 2 or 4 days and one day of the week is rent 2 get 1 free.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1395290]Does netflix streaming work in the DR? I am almost certain that HBO's internet streaming service (HBOgo) is blocked when in the DR. Amazon Instant Video has many movies available for free for prime members.[/QUOTE]Sorry, my answer was in response to trace's original question on learning Spanish. Who I presume lives in the US and so I thought would be using his time at home and referred to Netflix which I use.

As far as DR, I typically do not turn on the TV.

[quote=frannie; 1395297]teachers have turned down an offer of a 20% pay raise from their current salary which is less than 9000 pesos per month. they are asking for a 100% raise and say the minister of education should try living on rice, sardines, and salami.

10 people were killed the other day in a crash just outside puerto plata when returning from an evangelistic event on the back of a pick up truck. a tyre burst and the vehicle collided with a guagua. a santo domingo hospital official said that 65% of deaths in hospitals are in road deaths, and that 73% of victims are motor cyclists, many with severe head injuries. reasons for accidents are excessive speed, disregard of traffic rules, and abuse of alcohol and drugs. you have been warned.

kahuna bar in cabarete is looking for girls over 18 who must speak english.[/quote]what about the weather and sports?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1395346]Sorry, my answer was in response to trace's original question on learning Spanish. Who I presume lives in the US and so I thought would be using his time at home and referred to Netflix which I use.

As far as DR, I typically do not turn on the TV.[/QUOTE]No need to be sorry, I have never used netflix and was just curious whether their service was available in the DR. Cagep1967 provided info on a workaround to get netflix to function in the DR.

Sometimes the Dominicanas want to watch TV, I would rather have playing a movie without commercials.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1395449]No need to be sorry, I have never used netflix and was just curious whether their service was available in the DR. Cagep1967 provided info on a workaround to get netflix to function in the DR.

Sometimes the Dominicanas want to watch TV, I would rather have playing a movie without commercials.[/QUOTE]There are a couple of threads on DR1 about how to access Netflix in the DR. A simple search should find the appropriate threads.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1395579]There are a couple of threads on DR1 about how to access Netflix in the DR. A simple search should find the appropriate threads.[/QUOTE]The travel news from that other site appears in my email about once a month, which I sometimes read, otherwise I have not entered or read that other site in a while. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1395312]Netflix does not stream into DR. However, I have VPN access into the UK from my company and I can get Netflix that way. When VPN'd in I get a UK IP address for the internet.[/QUOTE]I have used : [url]http://jtunnel.com/[/url]

To get around the IP tracking issues. For example, this site was (is?) out of bounds in Dubai but you can get through using a tunnel. There are other sites like this and I have no clue as to how these make money. But perhaps netflix will work in the DR through this?

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1395423]What about the weather and sports?[/QUOTE]Not sure that sports is particularly relevant to mongering in the DR. The weather changes daily, but you can get that from various Web sites.

The three items I posted pertained to low wages in the DR, road safety in the DR, and a bar in Cabarete looking for English speaking girls-all items that might be of some relevance to single men traveling in search of women.

Thought I'd share a pretty good app I found for my phone on the. Android network called MosaLingua Spanish. It uses a space repitition system to help you learn Spanish. I tried and DL'ed a lot of apps and this is the best one I've found so far for when I'm travelling and away from my PC and Rosetta Stone. It was like $4 I think and worth checking out if you're like me and want to practice Spanish on the go.

Anyone else know some good apps out there I'm all ears. Thanks for the netflix and amazon suggestions BTW.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1395691]Not sure that sports is particularly relevant to mongering in the DR. The weather changes daily, but you can get that from various Web sites.

The three items I posted pertained to low wages in the DR, road safety in the DR, and a bar in Cabarete looking for English speaking girls-all items that might be of some relevance to single men traveling in search of women.[/QUOTE]Just busting your stones, Frannie. Your report sounded like the evening news, w / o the sports / weather. That's all, LOL.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1395967]the evening news, w / o the sports / weather. That's all, LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL. Scary Movie 3 Scene - News Studio: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFnokdl-PuE[/url]

[QUOTE=Trace79; 1395868]Thought I'd share a pretty good app I found for my phone on the. Android network called MosaLingua Spanish. It uses a space repitition system to help you learn Spanish. I tried and DL'ed a lot of apps and this is the best one I've found so far for when I'm travelling and away from my PC and Rosetta Stone. It was like $4 I think and worth checking out if you're like me and want to practice Spanish on the go.

Anyone else know some good apps out there I'm all ears. Thanks for the netflix and amazon suggestions BTW.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

On Directv you can go to menu then settings then audio and change the primary Audio language to Spanish (shows with available Spanish audio, you will then hear in Spanish). Last night on HBO with that option chosen in the Directv settings, the Bernard Hopkins boxing match was announced in Spanish, Game of Thrones was in Spanish and the movie Think Like a Man was in Spanish. From Menu then Settings then Display then Captioning, there are 6 options for closed captioning (Digital Track: Service 3, will give Spanish subtitles, Service 1 will give English subtitles).

Spanish Actress Penélope Cruz is hot in the 1992 movie Jamón Jamón: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mRVVSfpyY0[/url]

Movies by the Spaniard Pedro Almodóvar are always a bit different, usually with attractive actresses, his most recent release The Skin I Live In (La piel que habito) was on cable last night, in Spanish with English subtitles.

A few days back Jaosousa posted on this. I thought it was a good idea and searched on ebay and bought it from the vendor below.

The material came today, with a car plug in diffuser + 4 satchels. I will try it today but wanted folks to know about it. The price was good for me and if I like it, I can buy a bottle of essential oil separately as Jaosousa had recommended.

[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/190799216133?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649[/url]

[QUOTE=Trace79; 1395868]Thought I'd share a pretty good app I found for my phone on the. Android network called MosaLingua Spanish. It uses a space repitition system to help you learn Spanish. I tried and DL'ed a lot of apps and this is the best one I've found so far for when I'm travelling and away from my PC and Rosetta Stone. It was like $4 I think and worth checking out if you're like me and want to practice Spanish on the go.

Anyone else know some good apps out there I'm all ears. Thanks for the netflix and amazon suggestions BTW.[/QUOTE]Pimsler has a good 8-CD basic Spanish lesson that you can pick up used on Amazon. Good repetitive based, mostly travel lingo. I usually brush up with it for a couple weeks before a planned trip by listening in my car on the way to work. Each lesson is about 30-minutes. Helps to get out there and speak with the natives. Don't buy it new directly from Pimsler, they have a catch for future enrollment and will send you some very expensive language stuff.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1396988]Pimsler has a good 8-CD basic Spanish lesson that you can pick up used on Amazon. Good repetitive based, mostly travel lingo. I usually brush up with it for a couple weeks before a planned trip by listening in my car on the way to work. Each lesson is about 30-minutes. Helps to get out there and speak with the natives. Don't buy it new directly from Pimsler, they have a catch for future enrollment and will send you some very expensive language stuff.[/QUOTE]I would be willing to share my Pimsleur Spanish mp3s, I will only send to a gmail address sent to me via PM.

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1397002]I would be willing to share my Pimsleur Spanish mp3s, I will only send to a gmail address sent to me via PM.[/QUOTE]Attaboy! That is very kind of you brother and smart too. Converting the files to MP3.

Hey Guy,

I'm getting ready for an upcoming trip to Sosua. It will be my first trip here but not to the DR.

Could use a little help from the vets. What is the proper dress wear for the night? Jeans, slacks, and nice shirt or beach wear and tank tops?

Also, I've noticed from the photos that there seems to be a lot of open air bars. Do any of the bars or Discos have Air Conditioning?

Any insight or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

[QUOTE=Thunderdownunder; 1397442]Hey Guy,

I'm getting ready for an upcoming trip to Sosua. It will be my first trip here but not to the DR.

Could use a little help from the vets. What is the proper dress wear for the night? Jeans, slacks, and nice shirt or beach wear and tank tops?

Also, I've noticed from the photos that there seems to be a lot of open air bars. Do any of the bars or Discos have Air Conditioning?

Any insight or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks[/QUOTE]Most people generally dress down in, Sosua. I generally wear shorts and t-shirts everywhere, even in the nicer restaurants. The chicas will check you out like a used car salesman, and try to figure out how price sensitive you are. Certainly no jewelry. Nothing to draw attention to yourself. Think walmart, or Costco and you 'll be good.

I try not to wear shorts in Santo Domingo. You will standout as a tourist. I prefer to keep things low key. Some guys like the attention and travel in packs. Dominican men generally do not wear shorts.

QUOTE=Mongerman69; 1397692]Most people generally dress down in, Sosua. I generally wear shorts and t-shirts everywhere, even in the nicer restaurants. The chicas will check you out like a used car salesman, and try to figure out how price sensitive you are. Certainly no jewelry. Nothing to draw attention to yourself. Think walmart, or Costco and you 'll be good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1397698]I try not to wear shorts in Santo Domingo. You will standout as a tourist. I prefer to keep things low key. Some guys like the attention and travel in packs. Dominican men generally do not wear shorts.

QUOTE=Mongerman69; 1397692]Most people generally dress down in, Sosua. I generally wear shorts and t-shirts everywhere, even in the nicer restaurants. The chicas will check you out like a used car salesman, and try to figure out how price sensitive you are. Certainly no jewelry. Nothing to draw attention to yourself. Think walmart, or Costco and you 'll be good.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]I was unaware we were discussing, Santo Domingo.

[QUOTE=Mongerman69;1397705]I was unaware we were discussing, Santo Domingo.[/QUOTE] In the DR, I wear short sleeve button down collared shirts made from a man made material (dries quick and doesn't wrinkle), I like Quiksilver with their polysonic material; [url]www.quiksilver.com/[/url].

Some of their shirts have a straight hem, worn not tucked into pants (similar to a Cuban shirt) or can be worn tucked in (quiksilver t-shirts are OK). Dogfunk sells these types of shirts (also in their clearance section); [url]http://www.dogfunk.com/[/url]

Some of the shirts say they are slim fit and won't fit me.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1397723]In the DR, I wear short sleeve button down collared shirts made from a man made material (dries quick and doesn't wrinkle) , I like Quiksilver with their polysonic material;

[url]www.quiksilver.com/[/url]

Some of their shirts have a straight hem, worn not tucked into pants (similar to a Cuban shirt) or can be worn tucked in (quiksilver t-shirts are OK). Dogfunk sells these types of shirts (also in their clearance section) ;

[url]http://www.dogfunk.com/[/url]

Some of the shirts say they are slim fit and won't fit me.[/QUOTE]Short of the, Under Armour, type. Ball them up and through them in the luggage. A good pair of sandles is a must. I bought a pair of the, closed toe, almost shoe-like, kind. They slip on and feel more like a shoe. Most comfortable pair I've owned for walking.

Thanks for the Info guys!

How about the Air Con question? Do any clubs or bars have AC?

Thanks again

World Baseball Classic, Thursday March 14 at 7pm. Probably would be a fun game to watch on the TV in a bar, in the DR.

Travel Channel shows: Anthony Bourdain in the Dominican Republic (snippet); [url]http://www.travelchannel.com/video/relive-the-dominican-republic[/url].

Todd Carmichael finding and buying coffee in Haiti (snippets); [url]http://www.travelchannel.com/video/welcome-to-haiti[/url] And [url]http://www.travelchannel.com/video/an-emotional-experience[/url]. He buys about $60,000US worth of Haitian coffee.

Todd Carmichael finding and buying tribal coffee in Colombia (snippet); [url]http://www.travelchannel.com/video/it-all-hinges-on-a-single-cup[/url].

The Colombian and Haitian coffees he finds can be purchased online from his coffee company (La Colombe).

March 19, 2013, 8pm eastern time, final game for the World Baseball Classic Championship. Might be fun to watch in a bar in PR or the DR. (There are some pretty women who are baseball fans).

Quezada, an immigrant from the Dominican Republic, told reporters in Spanish that he was "very happy" and that he intends to help his family.

Clearance t-shirts starting at $3.50. $20 gift card if you spend $100.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1402823]Quezada, an immigrant from the Dominican Republic, told reporters in Spanish that he was "very happy" and that he intends to help his family.[/QUOTE]I surely hope he pays at least the $29K he owes in back child support!

[QUOTE=Buscemi]I surely hope he pays at least the $29K he owes in back child support![/QUOTE]Maybe he will buy Baby Mama a house like this in Santo Domingo; [url]http://www.inmobiliariapaez.com/index.php?option=com_properties&view=properties&task=showproperty&cyid=11:rd&sid=11:sd&lid=50:cacicazgos&cid=6:comprar&tid=7:casas&id=704:casa-cacicazgos&Itemid=34[/url]

For himself he can a buy an apartment in Santo Domingo with a private rooftop pool, to sunbathe and swim in the nude with his Novias; [url]http://www.supercasas.com/reg/do/properties_view.aspx?pid=354012[/url]

Maybe a beach house out East and a weekend Mountain house up North.

Buy himself a convertible beemer/bimmer (Bavarian car) to tool around in the DR; [url]http://portal.bufeo.com/galleries/galleries/3560/[/url] and/or a Harley or custom bike; [url]http://portal.bufeo.com/galleries/galleries/3564/[/url]

When do you use the word NEGRO vs PRETO? I thought they both meant black, but I am having a hard time understand when you use one versus the other.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1405768]When do you use the word NEGRO vs PRETO? I thought they both meant black, but I am having a hard time understand when you use one versus the other.[/QUOTE]I have never heard preto in Spanish. Preto / preta is Portuguese for black, whereas negro / negra is Spanish for black.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1405775]I have never heard preto in Spanish. Preto / preta is Portuguese for black, whereas negro / negra is Spanish for black.[/QUOTE]Prieto, means dark for a man and Prieta for a woman. Sometimes considered derogatory.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1405805]Prieto, means dark for a man and Prieta for a woman. Sometimes considered derogatory.[/QUOTE]In DR, I've not heard Negro / a used that often, when referring to a person. Moreno / a is used more often. Although, my neighbor has his hot girlfriend over all the time and he refers to her as his negrita.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1405807]In DR, I've not heard Negro / a used that often, when referring to a person. Moreno / a is used more often. Although, my neighbor has his hot girlfriend over all the time and he refers to her as his negrita.[/QUOTE]Here is a quick view via a recent conversation on the subject:

T — 23:03

Una pregunta

C — 23:04

Si dime

T — 23:04

Que significa cuando uno dice, como estas mi negor / a?

T — 23:04

Sorry negro / a

C — 23:05

Bueno para mi es una manera carinosa de llamar a quien se quiere

C — 23:06

Sea negro o blanco

C — 23:06

Es como si dijera hola more

T — 23:06

Ah. Interesante. Yo he visto esta exprecion.

T — 23:07

No sabia si esta una cosa negativa o como dijiste de carino

C — 23:08

Negativa, jamas

C — 23:08

Es una muestra de carino

T — 23:08

Gracias

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1405826]Here is a quick view via a recent conversation on the subject:

T — 23:03

Una pregunta

C — 23:04

Si dime

T — 23:04

Que significa cuando uno dice, como estas mi negor / a?

T — 23:04

Sorry negro / a

C — 23:05

Bueno para mi es una manera carinosa de llamar a quien se quiere

C — 23:06

Sea negro o blanco

C — 23:06

Es como si dijera hola more

T — 23:06

Ah. Interesante. Yo he visto esta exprecion.

T — 23:07

No sabia si esta una cosa negativa o como dijiste de carino

C — 23:08

Negativa, jamas

C — 23:08

Es una muestra de carino

T — 23:08

Gracias[/QUOTE]I've heard lots of words that an American would consider derogatory. I'm fat, but my chicas call me Gordito (Little fatty) or Gordo Bello (beautiful fatty) those are terms of endearment or de Carino. I've not heard Negro / a in a negative tone, however, I've heard Prieto / a used negatively when Dominicans refer to Haitians (which they are extremely prejudicial in regards.) Even in regards to dominicans, el es demasiado prieto parece de un hatiano. He is so dark he looks like a Haitian.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1406105]I've heard lots of words that an American would consider derogatory. I'm fat, but my chicas call me Gordito (Little fatty) or Gordo Bello (beautiful fatty) those are terms of endearment or de Carino. I've not heard Negro / a in a negative tone, however, I've heard Prieto / a used negatively when Dominicans refer to Haitians (which they are extremely prejudicial in regards.) Even in regards to dominicans, el es demasiado prieto parece de un hatiano. He is so dark he looks like a Haitian.[/QUOTE]You are exactly right."mi negro" is a term of endearment. What this woman told me was interesting in that you call someone "mi negro" irrespective of his skin color but I must admit, I balked when someone called me that the very first time.

Re prieto, that is a new expression for me. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1406105]I've heard lots of words that an American would consider derogatory. I'm fat, but my chicas call me Gordito (Little fatty) or Gordo Bello (beautiful fatty) those are terms of endearment or de Carino. I've not heard Negro / a in a negative tone,[/QUOTE]Amara speaks English at 1:06 and a nice pair of titties at 1:42: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niYEmkjhZtA[/url]

As usual, I rented a small Kia picanto from these people. 8 days, all inclusive about $150. I paid for no additional insurance barring what my card offers. The rental puts $1000 on hold but that is fine with me, as I use very little of my credit limits.

The car was outwardly ok. I essentially made sure the tires were good as well as the brakes. Fully functioning. But I did not check the f. Ing wipers and when rains came they bothered me, not able to clean well. Also plenty of squeaky noise. No sure where they came from. From brakes, steering. The thing about that place and it might be true for this rental company is that the cars are high mileage unlike back home. This one had about 67000 miles.

Anyway, with that, I went around Santiago, San Francisco de Macoris, Bonao, Santo Domingo, San Cristobal and back to S. D and finally back to Santiago. Do not have a GPS but that could be a useful thing. A gentlman I know (drives taxi in Santiago) told me Gramin's local vendor has very good maps to download. Apparently for about 3000 pesos.

Blu brand has budget to expensive unlocked cell phones. I have bought a few for the DR (not much experience with them yet) this phone is unlocked, on sale at newegg $18.99, can take two sim cards (you can have a claro sim and an orange sim with two different numbers on the same cell) phone is small but I thought it was decent for the money (if you go out and it gets lost, not a big loss, also can give it away); [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875561018[/url].

Touch screen cell phones unlocked, for $99 at newegg (both supposedly can act as a wifi hotspot). Motorola Dual Sim cell: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875209326[/url] And HTC: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875502136[/url]. I don't have experience with either of these cell phones.

here is a quick breakdown of my latest trip exclusive of the air ticket:

room 16%

women 18%

food 23%

gas 5%

movies / club etc 7%

phone 3%

drug store 1%

taxi 2%

gifts 16%

car rental 9%

8 days. 9 women. car rental and gas together is a large number. i always leave some money as seen under "women". a movie ticket in santiago is 100 peso a piece, in sdq, it is 250 pesos apiece. finally, my food expenses are almost always shared with women i meet. i had a larger than usual pharmacy bill this time. a girl came to see me and she had a major burn on her lower leg thanks to the motor scooter a couple of days prior. strangely, she had no medication or bandage and a part of the skin was peeled off showing dark red patch; she was also, well, wearing tight pants that would rub against the wound. it is amazing to see a thing like that- going around with chances of infection. at least for me. i had to use my alcohol swabs to clean and then use my band aids and later took her to a drug store to buy a cleaner and ointment before she left. the pharmacists also told her to wear shorts / skirts for the time being.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1406633]As usual, I rented a small Kia picanto from these people. 8 days, all inclusive about $150. I paid for no additional insurance barring what my card offers. The rental puts $1000 on hold but that is fine with me, as I use very little of my credit limits.[/QUOTE]I rent with Nelly as well. It was my wingman that I was with in Santo Domingo two weeks ago who actually introduced me to Nelly a couple of years ago. Before that, I always rented with Budget. When we arrived on the 23rd he was renting for 1 day and they put a $1500 hold on his card because he declined the insurance. I actually started getting the insurance about a year ago. I always rent the same Kia Picanto as well. The guy tried to give me a new Hyundai this time but I checked it out and declined. The reason being is that it had a factory radio with a CD player and no auxiliary jack to connect my ipod. The radios that are in the Kias do have the jack. My priorities for renting a car are 1. Auxiliary jack for ipod 2. Fuel comsumption 3. A/C. Other than those things I could care less.

My car cost me $318 for 6 days (Saturday 2pm to Friday 12pm - $53/day) with all insurances included. The guy said he would put a $500 hold on my card. I asked why do I need a $500 hold when the total is only $318 and I have all of the insurances. He said that he would do $400 instead. I agreed with that. A while back I asked my credit card companies about the car rental insurance coverage that I have seen discussed here several times, but none of them seemed to know what I was talking about. Discover was the only one that said the insurance existed, but they said it was secondary insurance to cover any costs above the limits of the regular insurance. Maybe I will contact the other companies once more to inquire again.

In 7 days I drove 1394 km (866 miles). I spent 7500 pesos ($182) in gas. I started in Santo Domingo/Boca Chica and went to Higuey/Bavaro/Punta Cana. From there I drove to Sosua/Puerto Plata. From there I went to Santiago. From Santiago I went to La Vega, to Salcedo, back to Santiago, back to Salcedo, down to San Francisco and back to Santo Domingo. Total transportation: $318 rental + $182 fuel= $500/866 miles = 57.7 cents/mile.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1406633]Anyway, with that, I went around Santiago, San Francisco de Macoris, Bonao, Santo Domingo, San Cristobal and back to S. D and finally back to Santiago. Do not have a GPS but that could be a useful thing. A gentlman I know (drives taxi in Santiago) told me Gramin's local vendor has very good maps to download. Apparently for about 3000 pesos.[/QUOTE]My Samsung Galaxy smartphone already had the Google Maps application installed when I bought it. Since I pay for Claro internet on my phone everyday while in DR there is no need to have another GPS. It definitely came in handy on this trip. It showed me shorter routes that I did not know existed. (eg. From Higuey to La Samana Highway using DR4 and from Moca to DR1 going south instead of west) It also helped me navigate around Santo Domingo with ease. Looking back, my first time going to Salcedo from Santiago was at night with no GPS. When I was using the GPS this time in the daylight hours, I thought to myself I don't know how I ever made it the first time. I must have been insane to even have attempted it.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1408258]My Samsung Galaxy smartphone already had the Google Maps application installed when I bought it. Since I pay for Claro internet on my phone everyday while in DR there is no need to have another GPS. It definitely came in handy on this trip. It showed me shorter routes that I did not know existed. (eg. From Higuey to La Samana Highway using DR4 and from Moca to DR1 going south instead of west) It also helped me navigate around Santo Domingo with ease. Looking back, my first time going to Salcedo from Santiago was at night with no GPS. When I was using the GPS this time in the daylight hours, I thought to myself I don't know how I ever made it the first time. I must have been insane to even have attempted it.[/QUOTE]I have a galaxy as well. Did you get it unlocked in the dr? I have a claro minute phone I use in the DR.

[QUOTE=Brother P;1408264]I have a galaxy as well. Did you get it unlocked in the dr? I have a claro minute phone I use in the DR.[/QUOTE]I bought mine at T-Mobile. Right after I bought it I called them and they emailed me the code to unlock it.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1408258]My Samsung Galaxy smartphone already had the Google Maps application installed when I bought it. Since I pay for Claro internet on my phone everyday while in DR there is no need to have another GPS. It definitely came in handy on this trip. It showed me shorter routes that I did not know existed. (eg. From Higuey to La Samana Highway using DR4 and from Moca to DR1 going south instead of west) It also helped me navigate around Santo Domingo with ease. Looking back, my first time going to Salcedo from Santiago was at night with no GPS. When I was using the GPS this time in the daylight hours, I thought to myself I don't know how I ever made it the first time. I must have been insane to even have attempted it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. Very helpful!

1. I use a second phone while there but without Internet. The man who spoke to me about GPS told me the Garmin map is apparently better than the Google maps. I have no way to judge. Speaking of going to Salcedo, I passed through Moca and Salcedo on the way to SFM and two times I did that, I did it during day time and I had to often ask people to get the direction right so yes, I know what you are speaking of.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1408244]I rent with Nelly as well. It was my wingman that I was with in Santo Domingo two weeks ago who actually introduced me to Nelly a couple of years ago. Before that, I always rented with Budget. When we arrived on the 23rd he was renting for 1 day and they put a $1500 hold on his card because he declined the insurance. I actually started getting the insurance about a year ago. I always rent the same Kia Picanto as well. The guy tried to give me a new Hyundai this time but I checked it out and declined. The reason being is that it had a factory radio with a CD player and no auxiliary jack to connect my ipod. The radios that are in the Kias do have the jack. My priorities for renting a car are 1. Auxiliary jack for ipod 2. Fuel comsumption 3. A / C. Other than those things I could care less.

My car cost me $318 for 6 days (Saturday 2pm to Friday 12pm. $53 / day) with all insurances included. The guy said he would put a $500 hold on my card. I asked why do I need a $500 hold when the total is only $318 and I have all of the insurances. He said that he would do $400 instead. I agreed with that. A while back I asked my credit card companies about the car rental insurance coverage that I have seen discussed here several times, but none of them seemed to know what I was talking about. Discover was the only one that said the insurance existed, but they said it was secondary insurance to cover any costs above the limits of the regular insurance. Maybe I will contact the other companies once more to inquire again.

In 7 days I drove 1394 km (866 miles). I spent 7500 pesos ($182) in gas. I started in Santo Domingo / Boca Chica and went to Higuey / Bavaro / Punta Cana. From there I drove to Sosua / Puerto Plata. From there I went to Santiago. From Santiago I went to La Vega, to Salcedo, back to Santiago, back to Salcedo, down to San Francisco and back to Santo Domingo. Total transportation: $318 rental + $182 fuel= $500/866 miles = 57. 7 cents / mile.[/QUOTE]1. Funny you mention the radio. I hardly ever play it indeed I did not even know how to operate it. It was one girl who came in and started fiddling with the radio which is how I found out. The women there need music. I have to think of it next time. More in the room.

2. I did not check the miles, given the unlimited mileage. And kudos for a mathematical mind and putting the numbers across. The Insurance is pricey. My base rate was if I recall, $17 plus applicable taxes. Question is why do they need a hold at all if you buy all the insurances which given the cost, I am assuming you did.

I had a long conversation with the Visa Card people. Here is an extract from the document they sent me for LDW. What Discover seems to have talked about is rental in the country of residence where you have a primary insurance as well. This MAY NOT BE applicable in a foreign country.

The Auto Rental Collision Damage Waiver Benefit will reimburse the cardholder for.

Physical damage to, or theft of, a rental car up to the actual cash value of the.

Vehicle as it was originally manufactured if the following conditions are met:

1. The rental period may not exceed nor intend to exceed fifteen (15) consecutive.

Days within the cardholder's domiciled country and thirty-one (31) consecutive.

Days outside the domiciled country.

2. The Loss / Damage Waiver offered by the rental agency must be declined by.

The cardholder in any state or country except where prohibited by law.

3. The entire rental transaction must be secured and charged to the eligible card.

4. Anyone driving other than the person whose name is embossed on the card.

Must be listed as an authorized driver on the rental contract.

5. The damage or theft must have taken place while the vehicle is under the.

Cardholder's care and control.

Within the cardholder's country of residence the coverage is on a 'SECONDARY'

Basis. It does not duplicate insurance provided by or purchased through the car.

Rental company; it will not pay for losses reimbursed by the cardholder's own.

Insurer, employer, employer's insurance or any other valid insurance. However, it.

Will reimburse the cardholder for the outstanding deductible portion or other.

Charges not covered by the cardholder's primary insurance policy. Outside the.

Cardholder's domiciled country or if the cardholder does not have primary.

Insurance, coverage is primary where available.

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I purchased my online tourist card yesterday. The problem is that my printer is down. But my smartphone has the email with the scanner code. Can I just have them scan it from my phone on arrival, or do I need a printed copy to hand them to keep?

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1409526]I purchased my online tourist card yesterday. The problem is that my printer is down. But my smartphone has the email with the scanner code. Can I just have them scan it from my phone on arrival, or do I need a printed copy to hand them to keep?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]This is a tough one. I am aware that in the US, we can scan boarding pass directly from the phone but I would be surprised if down there they are already are that ready with technology. I handed them the printout and after they scanned it, the guy waved me through. I think until you check it out, a print out is a safer plan.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1408293]I had a long conversation with the Visa Card people. Here is an extract from the document they sent me for LDW. What Discover seems to have talked about is rental in the country of residence where you have a primary insurance as well. This MAY NOT BE applicable in a foreign country.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. I just called around to all of my Visa and Mastercard companies and each one told me that I would be covered if I rented a car with their card worldwide. They also told me to look at these sites. I have only been getting rental car insurance for the past year. I guess I was covered all those times I didn't get the rental company's insurance but did not know it. Now it's back to my old ways. No more of that rip off stuff for me!

From Mastercard: CAR RENTAL COLLISION DAMAGE WAIVER INSURANCE.

Pays for covered damages (physical damage and theft) to a rental vehicle when your eligible MasterCard card is used to initiate and pay for the entire rental transaction.

[url]http://www.mastercard.us/card-benefits.html[/url]

From Visa: [url]http://usa.visa.com/personal/cards/benefits/bft_dmg_waiver_personal.html[/url]

Another successful trip to the DR.

I rented from Budget at SDQ.

Cost $20 / day car rental $13 / day for liability coverage and $8 / day for tires and glass. I use AMEX and I am covered for collision and damage to the rental car but not covered for liability or damage I might do to others if the accident is my fault. I assume any accident I might be in would be my fault in the DR. This is the reason for the $13 / day liability insurance. My VISA also only provides collision and not liability. On this trip I hit a curb and damaged the tire and rim a little the tire insurance covered this damage I assume since I was not charged anything.

When renting a car (either US or International) I always take pictures if the front, rear each quarter panel and the windshield before excepting the car. I always make sure I include the person checking out the care to me to in at least one of the pictures as documentation. When I returned the car this time the guy tried to say I damaged the rear bumper since the damage was not marked on the rental document. I showed the guy the picture of the rear bumper clearly showing was there when I accepted the car. Turns out there was also a small dent that was also not documented on the rental documents but he didn't ask to see the picture for this damage. Funny thing I learned this lesson in Houston and not some foreign country.

Used my Garmin GPS which worked flawlessly for the whole trip. After the trip, I upload my tracks to the GPSTravelMaps site and I get a free update the next time the DR maps are updated. If you already have a Garmin GPS I highly recommend the DR maps.

If you have a Samsung Galaxy phone on either At&T or T Mobile you can download an app from the Playstore that will give you the unlock codes for your phone. Of course your phone has to be [B]rooted[/B] In order for the app to find the codes.

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker; 1413514]Another successful trip to the DR.

I rented from Budget at SDQ.

Cost $20 / day car rental $13 / day for liability coverage and $8 / day for tires and glass. I use AMEX and I am covered for collision and damage to the rental car but not covered for liability or damage I might do to others if the accident is my fault. I assume any accident I might be in would be my fault in the DR. This is the reason for the $13 / day liability insurance. My VISA also only provides collision and not liability. On this trip I hit a curb and damaged the tire and rim a little the tire insurance covered this damage I assume since I was not charged anything.

When renting a car (either US or International) I always take pictures if the front, rear each quarter panel and the windshield before excepting the car. I always make sure I include the person checking out the care to me to in at least one of the pictures as documentation. When I returned the car this time the guy tried to say I damaged the rear bumper since the damage was not marked on the rental document. I showed the guy the picture of the rear bumper clearly showing was there when I accepted the car. Turns out there was also a small dent that was also not documented on the rental documents but he didn't ask to see the picture for this damage. Funny thing I learned this lesson in Houston and not some foreign country.

Used my Garmin GPS which worked flawlessly for the whole trip. After the trip, I upload my tracks to the GPSTravelMaps site and I get a free update the next time the DR maps are updated. If you already have a Garmin GPS I highly recommend the DR maps.

If you have a Samsung Galaxy phone on either At&T or T Mobile you can download an app from the Playstore that will give you the unlock codes for your phone. Of course your phone has to be [B]rooted[/B] In order for the app to find the codes.[/QUOTE]Lots of great info, but how good could your trip be without one reference to a chica, presidente, ass, tits, pussy, or BJ? LOL

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker; 1413514]Another successful trip to the DR.

I rented from Budget at SDQ.

Cost $20 / day car rental $13 / day for liability coverage and $8 / day for tires and glass. I use AMEX and I am covered for collision and damage to the rental car but not covered for liability or damage I might do to others if the accident is my fault. I assume any accident I might be in would be my fault in the DR. This is the reason for the $13 / day liability insurance. My VISA also only provides collision and not liability. On this trip I hit a curb and damaged the tire and rim a little the tire insurance covered this damage I assume since I was not charged anything.

When renting a car (either US or International) I always take pictures if the front, rear each quarter panel and the windshield before excepting the car. I always make sure I include the person checking out the care to me to in at least one of the pictures as documentation. When I returned the car this time the guy tried to say I damaged the rear bumper since the damage was not marked on the rental document. I showed the guy the picture of the rear bumper clearly showing was there when I accepted the car. Turns out there was also a small dent that was also not documented on the rental documents but he didn't ask to see the picture for this damage. Funny thing I learned this lesson in Houston and not some foreign country.

Used my Garmin GPS which worked flawlessly for the whole trip. After the trip, I upload my tracks to the GPSTravelMaps site and I get a free update the next time the DR maps are updated. If you already have a Garmin GPS I highly recommend the DR maps.

If you have a Samsung Galaxy phone on either At&T or T Mobile you can download an app from the Playstore that will give you the unlock codes for your phone. Of course your phone has to be [B]rooted[/B] In order for the app to find the codes.[/QUOTE]Good information, thanks for the post.

A propina (tip) to the rental guys can be useful. I walk around the car with the guy and point out any damage and hope he marks it on the paper. One time a rear door had about a 5 inch by 5 inch dent (maybe happened in a parking lot with an adjacent car door). I showed it to a Dominican guy I know, he hit near the dent with the palm of his hand and metal popped back to normal.

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker; 1413514]Another successful trip to the DR.

I rented from Budget at SDQ.

Cost $20 / day car rental $13 / day for liability coverage and $8 / day for tires and glass. I use AMEX and I am covered for collision and damage to the rental car but not covered for liability or damage I might do to others if the accident is my fault. I assume any accident I might be in would be my fault in the DR. This is the reason for the $13 / day liability insurance. My VISA also only provides collision and not liability. On this trip I hit a curb and damaged the tire and rim a little the tire insurance covered this damage I assume since I was not charged anything.[/QUOTE]I've been looking for a comprehensive report on rental cars in the D. R. Many have reported on the topic, but the experiences vary and opinions inconclusive.

May I ask did you book the Budget car prior to your travels in the USA? Did you do so directly from their website? Did you do it through a 3rd party vendor like Orbitz (some have suggested AGAINST doing this). Did you do so only locally after you've arrived?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons; 1413555]I've been looking for a comprehensive report on rental cars in the D. R. Many have reported on the topic, but the experiences vary and opinions inconclusive.

May I ask did you book the Budget car prior to your travels in the USA? Did you do so directly from their website? Did you do it through a 3rd party vendor like Orbitz (some have suggested AGAINST doing this). Did you do so only locally after you've arrived?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm a bit confused, weren't you the guy that said catching the gua gua was so easy that you don't need Spanish? Now you want to rent a car this trip? Rent the car prior to the trip at their website but keep the confirmation number. I actually make two reservations at the airport with Alamo and Avis. Remember its the DR and they could fuck up even a reservation. Things arent always as simple in the DR as people make them to be.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1413727]I'm a bit confused, weren't you the guy that said catching the gua gua was so easy that you don't need Spanish? Now you want to rent a car this trip? Rent the car prior to the trip at their website but keep the confirmation number. I actually make two reservations at the airport with Alamo and Avis. Remember its the DR and they could fuck up even a reservation. Things arent always as simple in the DR as people make them to be.[/QUOTE]Avis and Alamo are American companies. With over 30 rentals in the DR, neither Avis or National/Alamo, never screwed up a reservation. Avis is a partner with Budget in the DR.

Lots of people take the bus and/or the guagua in the DR. Some people may want to rent a car once in a while or for one trip or part of a trip, nothing wrong with taking the bus or renting a car or doing both. I may have a rental car and I may still use the bus, motoconchos and the metro in the DR.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1413862]Avis and Alamo are American companies. With over 30 rentals in the DR, neither Avis or National / Alamo, never screwed up a reservation. Avis is a partner with Budget in the DR.

Lots of people take the bus and / or the guagua in the DR. Some people may want to rent a car once in a while or for one trip or part of a trip, nothing wrong with taking the bus or renting a car or doing both. I may have a rental car and I may still use the bus, motoconchos and the metro in the DR.[/QUOTE]Shame on me for trying to advise the flock of King Jao. Reminds me of Jim Jones leading his flock to the promised land, and we all know how that turned out. I've rented cars over 20 times in the DR and problems do happen. But since King Jao says its all perfect, no needrfor me to say more.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1413862]Avis and Alamo are American companies. With over 30 rentals in the DR, neither Avis or National/Alamo, never screwed up a reservation. Avis is a partner with Budget in the DR.[/QUOTE]Sure they are American companies, but the corporate office in the USA has no bearing over what is done in DR. When you rent in DR you have to deal with the people in DR if something goes wrong. Avis in Santo Domingo charged my card $18 for some reason. I called the number in the states and the lady said it was for gas. I always fill the car up on the way to the airport though. She said the system will not let her do anything about it and I would have to deal with them in the DR directly. The next time I was in Santiago at the airport I told the Avis guy what had happened and he offered me a 5% discount on my next rental. This particular day I had a reservation with Nelly and they told me they didn't have a car for me, but Budget will take care of me for around the same price. I think they may have the same owner.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1413999]Sure they are American companies, but the corporate office in the USA has no bearing over what is done in DR. When you rent in DR you have to deal with the people in DR if something goes wrong. Avis in Santo Domingo charged my card $18 for some reason. I called the number in the states and the lady said it was for gas. I always fill the car up on the way to the airport though. She said the system will not let her do anything about it and I would have to deal with them in the DR directly. The next time I was in Santiago at the airport I told the Avis guy what had happened and he offered me a 5% discount on my next rental. This particular day I had a reservation with Nelly and they told me they didn't have a car for me, but Budget will take care of me for around the same price. I think they may have the same owner.[/QUOTE]My post was in response to reservations. The computer systems for the reservations are probably in the United States. I have made around 30 reservations for rental cars in the Dominican Republic (3 with Avis, the rest with Alamo/National) and not once did they screw up a reservation, never happened. To make a reservation and then blow the company off, I could see why some companies might want to charge a fee for a no show reservation. It also might screw someone else up who wanted to make a reservation and was told no cars available.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons; 1413555]I've been looking for a comprehensive report on rental cars in the D. R. Many have reported on the topic, but the experiences vary and opinions inconclusive.

May I ask did you book the Budget car prior to your travels in the USA? Did you do so directly from their website? Did you do it through a 3rd party vendor like Orbitz (some have suggested AGAINST doing this). Did you do so only locally after you've arrived?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]The last two trips I booked using the Budget web site and indicated I only wanted the liability coverage at the time of booking. I booked about three weeks before my trip. In three previous trips I used Expedia to rent cars in SDQ, STI and POP. I have never had any problems with car availability at either of the airports using either the Budget site or Expedia.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1413727]I'm a bit confused, weren't you the guy that said catching the gua gua was so easy that you don't need Spanish? Now you want to rent a car this trip? Rent the car prior to the trip at their website but keep the confirmation number. I actually make two reservations at the airport with Alamo and Avis. Remember its the DR and they could fuck up even a reservation. Things arent always as simple in the DR as people make them to be.[/QUOTE]Yes, I did say that but I was specifically remarking on OP's question about traveling between SD and Boca Chica.

On this trip I want to venture out a little bit. There is a chica living in a smaller city that I might want to hook up with.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons; 1414086]Yes, I did say that but I was specifically remarking on OP's question about traveling between SD and Boca Chica.

On this trip I want to venture out a little bit. There is a chica living in a smaller city that I might want to hook up with.[/QUOTE]My suggestion would be to make the car rental reservation online, at least 24 hours before your trip. I always make the reservations from the company's website. I always print two copies of the reservation with the price and bring it with me. You may want to convert the price into pesos before the trip (car rental receipts I have received in the DR had the price in pesos). Always check your account after a trip for any charges or over-billing. Avis and National/Alamo in the United States have assisted me after a trip to correct billing.

There are coupon codes that work on car rental websites, that are good for the DR (many car rental coupon codes only work in the US and Canada).

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1413877]Shame on me for trying to advise the flock of King Jao. Reminds me of Jim Jones leading his flock to the promised land, and we all know how that turned out. I've rented cars over 20 times in the DR and problems do happen. But since King Jao says its all perfect, no needrfor me to say more.[/QUOTE]Maybe read Juan Cole (University of Michigan Professor) a recent post about Father and Son dynamics and how some Sons do things in Rebellion against their fathers. Rebelión - Joe Arroyo, Salsa from Colombia.

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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1413877]Reminds me of Jim Jones[/QUOTE]Hermosa women in Guyana, [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQfaeVPRuAM[/url]. I'll show you around in Albouystown, Georgetown, Guyana.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1409622]Thanks man. I just called around to all of my Visa and Mastercard companies and each one told me that I would be covered if I rented a car with their card worldwide. They also told me to look at these sites. I have only been getting rental car insurance for the past year. I guess I was covered all those times I didn't get the rental company's insurance but did not know it. Now it's back to my old ways. No more of that rip off stuff for me!

From Mastercard: CAR RENTAL COLLISION DAMAGE WAIVER INSURANCE.

Pays for covered damages (physical damage and theft) to a rental vehicle when your eligible MasterCard card is used to initiate and pay for the entire rental transaction.

[url]http://www.mastercard.us/card-benefits.html[/url]

From Visa:

[url]http://usa.visa.com/personal/cards/benefits/bft_dmg_waiver_personal.html[/url][/QUOTE]If your in a accident it will be your fault. Just the way it is. You can not leave the country until damages are paid and a release is signed by the other party. It sometimes takes weeks for your credit card company to pay the damages. I have heard many horror stories about gringos being the target of accident scams. Try to rent a car with dark tinted windows. Many don't hang out a accident scenes. They just take off anf hope their car is faster. LOL. Just be careful.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1414446]Hermosa women in Guyana,

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQfaeVPRuAM[/url]

I'll show you around in Albouystown, Georgetown, Guyana.[/QUOTE]I decline your invitation. Leila is my future wife (Once I hit powerball) , so back off quick.

Here is the video she sent me.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QiO5B3ftHo[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1414799]I decline your invitation. Leila is my future wife (Once I hit powerball) , so back off quick.

Here is the video she sent me.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QiO5B3ftHo[/url][/QUOTE]She is engaged to New York Giants defensive lineman, Osi Umenyiora.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1414828]She is engaged to New York Giants defensive lineman, Osi Umenyiora.[/QUOTE]That shit hurts man. My baby is cheating on me? Oh well back to Sosua then.

Some food and drink that might be encountered in the Dominican Republic (with translation to English); [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqwel9otxx4&NR=1&feature=fvwp[/url] (I learned from this video).

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415148]Some food and drink that might be encountered in the Dominican Republic (with translation to English) ;

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqwel9otxx4&NR=1&feature=fvwp[/url]

(I learned from this video).[/QUOTE]The first part of the video is in Adrian Tropical, the 24 hour restaurant which overlooks the ocean on the malecon. Always a good meal there, especially if you want to try tipico food.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1415155]The first part of the video is in Adrian Tropical, the 24 hour restaurant which overlooks the ocean on the malecon. Always a good meal there, especially if you want to try tipico food.[/QUOTE]The fresh fruit shakes in the DR can be made with milk (con leche) or without milk (sin leche).

Best piece of fish I have had was in a nothing looking beach shack place on Playa Rincon (Samana, North Shore of the DR).

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1413877]says its all perfect,[/QUOTE]Anthony Bourdain says Rincon Beach is picture perfect, in his travel channel episode about the DR. In this other travel channel video, rincon beach is said to be perfect and one of the top ten beaches in the world,"Dominican Republic Escape" (at 2:42) [url]http://www.travelchannel.com/video/dominican-republic-escape-11062[/url]. Rincon might not be the best beach on the island and islands around the island.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415206]Anthony Bourdain says Rincon Beach is picture perfect, in his travel channel episode about the DR. In this other travel channel video, rincon beach is said to be perfect and one of the top ten beaches in the world,"Dominican Republic Escape" (at 2:42)

[url]http://www.travelchannel.com/video/dominican-republic-escape-11062[/url]

Rincon might not be the best beach on the island and islands around the island.[/QUOTE]Access to this beach is by bike or 4wd, or by boat from Las Galeras. It is worth the effort to get there. I have heard there are big plans to develop it with AI resorts, better get there soon to enjoy it.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1413877]Shame on me for trying to advise the flock of King Jao. Reminds me of Jim Jones leading his flock to the promised land, and we all know how that turned out. I've rented cars over 20 times in the DR and problems do happen. But since King Jao says its all perfect, no needrfor me to say more.[/QUOTE]My novia and I have a small car rental business in the DR. It does not matter wether you use the international companies or a side street rent-a-car, the same bullshit can happen.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1415276]Access to this beach is by bike or 4wd, or by boat from Las Galeras. It is worth the effort to get there. I have heard there are big plans to develop it with AI resorts, better get there soon to enjoy it.[/QUOTE]I drove a tiny Chevy Spark there. The road is OK, not the best in spots, no traffic, all green around, some homes a small village, maybe one small hotel ten minutes before the beach. When I drove, no need for a jeepeta or 4 wheel drive. I have lots of photos showing the road. There are other beaches in samana, very nice and secluded. From Samana Life: "Playa Madame, isolated and almost no access."; [url]http://samanalife.com/playamadame/[/url]

Photo of the white Chevy Spark I drove to Playa Rincon, Samana, Dominican Republic.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1415284]I drove a tiny Chevy Spark there. The road is OK, not the best in spots, no traffic, all green around, some homes a small village, maybe one small hotel ten minutes before the beach. When I drove, no need for a jeepeta or 4 wheel drive. I have lots of photos showing the road. There are other beaches in samana, very nice and secluded.[/QUOTE]This is one of the problems we have with our car rental business; people taking the cars on roads that are not suitable and damaging the steering and suspension. Of course I have not been there for 5 years, they may have improved the road by now. Sometimes old information is not always accurate, my apologies.

[quote=llttf;1415288]this is one of the problems we have with our car rental business; people taking the cars on roads that are not suitable and damaging the steering and suspension. of course i have not been there for 5 years, they may have improved the road by now. sometimes old information is not always accurate, my apologies.[/quote]ice in cold countries causes asphalt to crack and break creating sometimes big potholes that are struck by vehicles. cars can take a beating in any country. i would imagine hitting a good size pothole at 50mph might cause more damage then driving over a rough road at 10-20mph. i drove slow to playa rincon, even let the chica practice her driving on that road. i was in no rush, i don't think there was any damage done to that chevy spark from driving on that road that day. driving at night in the dr i have hit some potholes at a good speed, never had a tire blow out from that.

photos i took of the the side road to playa rincon (off the main road which is good). also photo of the new samana-santo domingo highway.

We have had cars returned with bent rims from hitting potholes and missing manhole covers. Sometimes the damage is not obvious when the car is returned.

Was your novia legally allowed to drive your rental car. Our rental agreements specify that only the named renter can drive the vehicle or the insurance is void. Some rental agencies may have different wording in their agreements.

[QUOTE=Llttf; 1415293]We have had cars returned with bent rims from hitting potholes and missing manhole covers. Sometimes the damage is not obvious when the car is returned.

Was your novia legally allowed to drive your rental car. Our rental agreements specify that only the named renter can drive the vehicle or the insurance is void. Some rental agencies may have different wording in their agreements.[/QUOTE]Of course she was not on the contract, I broke the rules.

[QUOTE=Llttf; 1415293]We have had cars returned with bent rims from hitting potholes and missing manhole covers. Sometimes the damage is not obvious when the car is returned.

Was your novia legally allowed to drive your rental car. Our rental agreements specify that only the named renter can drive the vehicle or the insurance is void. Some rental agencies may have different wording in their agreements.[/QUOTE]How to avoid any and all damage to a rental car, I don't think there is a way. Rental car companies don't seem to be going out of business, so they are probably making a profit, even when some damage occurs to their rental cars. You have people in the United States who were and are against the government stimulus package which included funds for improving infrastructure (including roads and highways), a newly paved road or highway usually causes less wear and tear on the vehicles that use those roads.

[url]http://dominicandream.org/2013/04/02/wimbash-cabarete-2013.html[/url]

Any info on this? Thinking I'll head to Cabarete for the free May 11th show. It'll be my precursor before the Pedro Clisante madness.

[QUOTE=Llttf; 1415293]We have had cars returned with bent rims from hitting potholes and missing manhole covers. Sometimes the damage is not obvious when the car is returned.

Was your novia legally allowed to drive your rental car. Our rental agreements specify that only the named renter can drive the vehicle or the insurance is void. Some rental agencies may have different wording in their agreements.[/QUOTE]I am no accountant, but I would guess rental car companies get a certain depreciation (depreciation means the car has suffered over the course of time) for the their vehicles, which they can claim.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1415342]I am no accountant, but I would guess rental car companies get a certain depreciation (depreciation means the car has suffered over the course of time) for the their vehicles, which they can claim.[/QUOTE]Not that sophisticated there. I was an accountant in one of my previous lives and it amazes me how they operate businesses in the DR.

Usually you pay for the repairs from the rental and hope there is enough leftover to make the payments on the car. At 1000 pesos per day for a Honda CRV there is not usually much profit at the end of the month.

[QUOTE=Llttf; 1415352]Not that sophisticated there. I was an accountant in one of my previous lives and it amazes me how they operate businesses in the DR.

Usually you pay for the repairs from the rental and hope there is enough leftover to make the payments on the car. At 1000 pesos per day for a Honda CRV there is not usually much profit at the end of the month.[/QUOTE]

A new Honda CRV for 1000 pesos per day (about $25US), I don't know which company you are referring to.

The car rental companies also make money from selling the additional insurance. I always pay for the 3rd party liability insurance (mandatory when I decline the more expensive LDW/CDL insurance, part of which is covered for free by mastercard) and I pay for the glass/tire insurance. I have never had to make use of the 3rd Party Liability Insurance. Glass/Tire insurance I have used at least three times to replace at least 4 tires. Buying 4 replacement tires with my own money probably would have cost me over $100US. National/Alamo the tire/glass insurance is about $3.75US per day. Mastercard provides some coverage, they might not provide coverage for large expensive SUVs. Check with Mastercard or other credit card company before renting certain SUVs.

To rent a nissan murano SUV at Alamo/National the rate is almost $1,000US per week (government gets part of that). 52 weeks in a year. If the car is rented out for those 52 weeks, that is close to $52,000US for that company. Of the course the car is not rented out every week. Also the rental companies may sell the cars after a few years.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415358]Not sure where you are getting your prices from. To rent a nissan murano SUV at Alamo / National the rate is almost $1000US per week (government gets part of that).52 weeks in year. If the car is rented out for those 52 weeks, that is close to $52, 000US for that company. Of the course the car is not rented out every week. Also the rental companies may sell the cars after a few years.

A new Honda CRV for 1000 pesos per day (about $25US) , I don't know which company you are referring to.

The car rental companies also make money from selling the additional insurance. I always pay for the 3rd party liability insurance (mandatory when I decline the more expensive LDW / CDL insurance, part of which is covered for free by mastercard) and I pay for the glass / tire insurance. I have never had to make use of the 3rd Party Liability Insurance. Glass / Tire insurance I have used at least three times to replace at least 4 tires. Buying 4 replacement tires with my own money probably would have cost me over $100US. National / Alamo the tire / glass insurance is about $3. 75US per day. Mastercard provides some coverage, they might not provide coverage for large expensive SUVs. Check with Mastercard or other credit card company before renting certain SUVs.[/QUOTE]We rent ours for 1000 pesos per day, sometimes less for longer periods. Had a friend a while ago rented a CRV from another company for a month, paid 650 pesos per day. These are not new vehicles, not important as long as they are reliable.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1415364]We rent ours for 1000 pesos per day, sometimes less for longer periods. Had a friend a while ago rented a CRV from another company for a month, paid 650 pesos per day. These are not new vehicles, not important as long as they are reliable.[/QUOTE]Maybe you should post an advertisement on the ISG.

If a monger accidentally strikes a motoconcho guy while driving one of your vehicles and the motoconcho guy sustains injuries, what happens to the driver of your vehicle? Does he get locked up as occurred to DW (aka HB)?

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415367]Maybe you should post an advertisement on the ISG.

If a monger accidentally strikes a motoconcho guy while driving one of your vehicles and the motoconcho guy sustains injuries, what happens to the driver of your vehicle? Does he get locked up as occurred to DW (aka HB) in Puerto Plata?[/QUOTE]I may be wrong but I don't think it matters whose rental you have, you are going to get locked up until the injured person is compensated for their injuries and the damage to their moto.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1415370]I may be wrong but I don't think it matters whose rental you have, you are going to get locked up until the injured person is compensated for their injuries and the damage to their moto.[/QUOTE]Do you know that as a fact or are you guessing? Have you ever rented a car in the DR?

I have been told that not everyone gets locked up.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415367]Maybe you should post an advertisement on the ISG.

If a monger accidentally strikes a motoconcho guy while driving one of your vehicles and the motoconcho guy sustains injuries, what happens to the driver of your vehicle? Does he get locked up as allegedly occurred to DW (aka HB)?[/QUOTE]That is a good question. Depends on the circumstances, I think you will find that with any of the rental companies.

I did not now you could advertise on ISG, that is why I have not posted a link

[QUOTE=Llttf; 1415375]That is a good question. Depends on the circumstances, I think you will find that with any of the rental companies.

I did not now you could advertise on ISG, that is why I have not posted a link[/QUOTE]"Classified Ads" thread here in the Dominican Republic section. Seems free.

Paid Advertisements, need to contact the owner of this site.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415380]"Classified Ads" thread here in the Dominican Republic section. Seems free.

Paid Advertisements, need to contact the owner of this site.[/QUOTE]OK, thanks for the information.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1415370]I may be wrong but I don't think it matters whose rental you have, you are going to get locked up until the injured person is compensated for their injuries and the damage to their moto.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282821/Nicola-Reyes-British-woman-held-Caribbean-jail-months-murder-husband-claims-died-car-crash.html[/url]

British holiday rep. 37, held without charge for seven months over 'murder' of husband she claims she ran over in a tragic accident.

[QUOTE=Redneck87; 1415383][url]Http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282821/Nicola-Reyes-British-woman-held-Caribbean-jail-months-murder-husband-claims-died-car-crash.html[/url]

British holiday rep. 37, held without charge for seven months over 'murder' of husband she claims she ran over in a tragic accident.[/QUOTE]Your first post and a negative one.

Why would the guy not be in the SUV with his wife and instead be on a motorbike driving in front of her? Maybe he was trying to get away from her and she purposely ran him in over and maybe she deserves to spend a good long period of time in jail. (Maybe you feel it is OK for a white person to murder a person of color without consequence). Habeus corpus, the former "cowboy" president (born in New Haven, Connecticut) wiped his ass with the notion of Habeas corpus. A writ of Habeas corpus is a writ (legal action) that requires a person under arrest to be brought before a judge or into court. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus[/url]

If you believe you will get locked up for nothing in the DR, maybe you should never visit the DR. Millions of tourists visit the DR every year without a problem or a hitch (old and young, different nationalities).

Hillbilly and Redneck do they mean the same?

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1415577]If you believe you will get locked up for nothing in the DR, maybe you should never visit the DR. Millions of tourists visit the DR every year without a problem or a hitch (old and young, different nationalities).[/QUOTE]Your numbers are a little off on the amount of people incarcerated on their DR trips. Of 73 FB group members at least 3 have been in a DR Jail and one has been held for months and still isn't free. Do you think you could help him?

Depends which type of person goes on vacation or is an ex-pat. There is people on this site that couldn't find there way to a airport 25 miles away without stopping and asking for directions, and there is others would could travel North to South on Hispanola without a map or guide, naturally the later is more at risk.

The woman seemed to live there, only one person I know lives in the DR never had an accident and drives doesn't get out much and drives a large vehicle.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1415577]Hillbilly and Redneck do they mean the same?[/QUOTE]Two very different things. A hillbilly comes from the Appalachian mountains as the "hill" in the name refers to.

A redneck can be from anywhere. Take, for instance, Jeff Foxworthy, the author of "You Might be a Redneck if." He is from Hapeville, Georgia, which is 5 minutes from downtown Atlanta. Just the other day a female friend from Syracuse, New York was telling me her town is full of rednecks.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415374]Do you know that as a fact or are you guessing? Have you ever rented a car in the DR?

I have been told that not everyone gets locked up.[/QUOTE]No, I don't know that as a fact. Read my post again,"I may be WRONG"."I don't THINK it matters".

Do YOU know anyone that has injured a person in the DR that WASN'T locked up?

[QUOTE=Redneck87; 1415383][url]Http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282821/Nicola-Reyes-British-woman-held-Caribbean-jail-months-murder-husband-claims-died-car-crash.html[/url]

British holiday rep. 37, held without charge for seven months over 'murder' of husband she claims she ran over in a tragic accident.[/QUOTE]You believe everything you read in a tabloid British newspaper? You think the people who operate the British newspaper might be slightly biased in favor of a British citizen over a non-white Dominican? Do you know for certain that she has not been charged and not been before a judge? Did you interview the witnesses? Do you know if there was a history of fights? Do you believe that women never wrongfully murder husbands?

Lots of bad behavior by newspapers (Judith Miller and WMDs not in Iraq, New York Times; Phone hacking by Rupert Murdoch newspaper employees in Britain; Rupert Murdoch's New York Post bad coverage of the recent events in Boston).

DW aka Hillbilly was partially correct when he wrote that everyone in New York is a piece of Sh_t (fox news, fox business channel, wall street journal, new york post all based in new York city and "owned" (controlling stake) by Australian Rupert Murdoch, who lives in a 20 million dollar apartment in New York City.)

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1415643]No, I don't know that as a fact. Read my post again,"I may be WRONG"."I don't THINK it matters".

Do YOU know anyone that has injured a person in the DR that WASN'T locked up?[/QUOTE]Have you ever rented a car in the Dominican Republic?

I'll answer your question when you respond to my question (I have asked you basic, easy non-confrontational questions recently and your response one time was to curse at me and try to insult me).

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1415630]Two very different things. A hillbilly comes from the Appalachian mountains as the "hill" in the name refers to.

A redneck can be from anywhere. Take, for instance, Jeff Foxworthy, the author of "You Might be a Redneck if." He is from Hapeville, Georgia, which is 5 minutes from downtown Atlanta. Just the other day a female friend from Syracuse, New York was telling me her town is full of rednecks.[/QUOTE]Thanks. The back of my white neck might get red next week (if I don't put sun block lotion).

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415651]Have you ever rented a car in the Dominican Republic?

I'll answer your question when you respond to my question (I have asked you basic, easy non-confrontational questions recently and your response one time was to curse at me and try to insult me).[/QUOTE]No, I never have and never will. The reason I won't is because of the subject at hand. In addition, all of the other transportation options fit my needs, I understand the desire for some people to need or want to rent a car, I don't have that same desire or need. I have traveled all over the island north, south, east and west without renting one.

I don't need to have rented a car to opine what I think to be the general consensus on this board has been to what happens if a gringo hits and injures a local. We have a well experienced and respected member of this board that went through the experience personally. There also was a very defined report not that long ago on this forum that laid it out in extreme detail, if I can find it I will post it, if any other member knows the post I am referring to please post it, it wasn't that long ago, a month maybe.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1415715]No, I never have and never will.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

There are guys on this site who have been in accidents in the DR and did not go to jail. There is at least one member I believe who posted that he took the injured person to a medical clinic and paid some of the medical expenses (if I remember correctly under $100). If you were interested in renting a car, I could provide more detailed information.

Some people in the United States go to jail after some car accidents in the United States, deservedly so.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415374]Do you know that as a fact or are you guessing? Have you ever rented a car in the DR?

I have been told that not everyone gets locked up.[/QUOTE]This is a copy and paste from the USA State Department website clearly stating that it is THE LAW that everyone get locked up, insurance or no insurance:

Dominican law requires that a driver be taken into custody for driving under the influence or being involved in an accident that causes serious injury or death, even if the driver is insured and appears not to have been at fault. The minimum detention period is 48 hours; however, detentions frequently last until a judicial decision is reached (often weeks or months) , or until a waiver is signed by the injured party (usually as the result of a cash settlement).

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1415715]to be the general consensus on this board has been to what happens if a gringo hits and injures a local.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Manizales911; 1415737]This is a copy and paste from the USA State Department website clearly stating that it is THE LAW that everyone get locked up, insurance or no insurance:

Dominican law requires that a driver be taken into custody for driving under the influence or being involved in an accident that causes serious injury or death, even if the driver is insured and appears not to have been at fault. The minimum detention period is 48 hours; however, detentions frequently last until a judicial decision is reached (often weeks or months) , or until a waiver is signed by the injured party (usually as the result of a cash settlement).[/QUOTE]Thanks.

Your post may say what the law is. It doesn't mean that, that is what happens in every case or in a high percentage of cases. (Adultery may be illegal or anal sex illegal in some States in the US, doesn't mean every person who does those things goes to jail).

People on this site have real world experience driving cars in the DR and all of the guys I know are not paranoid. I have driven in the DR for over 8 years, never a problem. Great country and I love to see it. If you drive slow and take it easy, anyone can drive in the DR.

[QUOTE=Jorge Jetson; 1415644]You believe everything you read in a tabloid British newspaper?

Lots of bad behavior by newspapers (Judith Miller and WMDs not in Iraq, New York Times; Phone hacking by Rupert Murdoch newspaper employees in Britain; Rupert Murdoch's New York Post bad coverage of the recent events in Boston).[/QUOTE]No don't believe everything I hear especially from you Jaosousa.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1415737]This is a copy and paste from the USA State Department website[/QUOTE]I have never seen the US Government tell US citizens not to rent a car in the DR. No one I have known has had a problem renting a car in the DR, while I have known them.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1415793]I have never seen the US Government tell US citizens not to rent a car in the DR. No one I have known has had a problem renting a car in the DR, while I have known them.[/QUOTE][url]Http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1103.html[/url]#traffic_safety.

It states that we should hire professional drivers.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1415813][url]Http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1103.html[/url]

#traffic_safety.

It states that we should hire professional drivers.[/QUOTE]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1103.html#traffic_safety

From the US Embassy Santo Domingo webpage:

"If you do drive in the Dominican Republic, you should be aware that the utmost caution and defensive driving are necessary." (Good advice, they don't seem to be saying with Great Force not to drive in the DR).

"Visitors to the Dominican Republic [b]might want to consider[/b] hiring a professional driver during their stay in lieu of driving themselves."

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1415743]I have driven in the DR for over 8 years, never a problem.[/QUOTE]Not very sound logically. It is like the old story of the guy who fell out of a window on the 38th floor. As he passed someone looking out on the 25th he shouted "No problems so far".

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1415819]Not very sound logically. It is like the old story of the guy who fell out of a window on the 38th floor. As he passed someone looking out on the 25th he shouted "No problems so far".[/QUOTE]You love Haitians and generally deplore Dominicans (that is your choice to make). If you want to discuss logic, makes no sense to me why a guy like you who prefers everything Haitian and basically deplores everything Dominican chooses to live in the Dominican Republic. The Haitians living in Haiti could use the money you are currently putting in the Dominican economy. When you can explain the logic of this choice, I'll put more credence into your post criticizing my logic.

Over 8 years of driving in the DR and I haven't had a problem. I know other guys who drive regularly in the DR who have not had a problem either.

You probably take motoconchos everyday, maybe you haven't had a problem while on a moto, so you might be inclined to opine that generally speaking motos have been safe for you and you will operate under the belief that they will continue to be somewhat safe. Tomorrow you might have an accident that could change your opinion of motos, but right now while passing the 2nd floor from the 20th floor on the way to the ground, you probably believe that motos are somewhat safe.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1415819]Not very sound logically. It is like the old story of the guy who fell out of a window on the 38th floor. As he passed someone looking out on the 25th he shouted "No problems so far".[/QUOTE]You and I and one other person got into separate wrecks in the same week two involving vehicles and you on a motorcycle, of course Jaosousa doesn't know anyone that got into a wreck even though it was his best buddy that was one of the three, and he mooched a meal of you at Blackbeards that time so he knows two, of course he will make up any story he wants because he can.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1415737]This is a copy and paste from the USA State Department website clearly stating that it is THE LAW that everyone get locked up, insurance or no insurance:[/QUOTE]That Everyone gets locked up?

"Dominican law requires that a driver be taken into custody for [b]driving under the influence[/b] or being involved in an accident that causes [b]serious injury or death[/b], even if the driver is insured and appears not to have been at fault. The minimum detention period is 48 hours; however, detentions frequently last until a judicial decision is reached (often weeks or months), or until a waiver is signed by the injured party (usually as the result of a cash settlement)."

[b]Not all accidents with bodily injuries fall under this definition[/b] (no death and no serious injury). Who makes the determination regarding serious injury, probably the police officer on the scene (maybe don't get the police involved). Drive slow or in slow traffic and less likely anyone will get seriously hurt if an accident occurs. Some places have more motos than others, so be more careful in those cities. I have driven on highways and roads that were empty.

Driving under the influence is not a good idea in the Dom Rep.

If the police on the scene want a driver in custody that custody is not always in a jail. National/Alamo on the recent cars I have rented had insurance with Universal (seems to be a well known company in the DR); [url]http://www.universal.com.do/Inicio[/url]. I have asked numerous times at National/Alamo and been told no jail.

There is an insurance waiver that is called something like Casa de Conductor. If you are involved in a car accident that would normally require you to go to the jail you are put up in a hotel instead while the case is being investigated. I think the hotel is located on Maximo Gomez or near there.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415837]That Everyone gets locked up?

"Dominican law requires that a driver be taken into custody for [b]driving under the influence[/b] Or being involved in an accident that causes [b]serious injury or death[/b], even if the driver is insured and appears not to have been at fault. The minimum detention period is 48 hours; however, detentions frequently last until a judicial decision is reached (often weeks or months) , or until a waiver is signed by the injured party (usually as the result of a cash settlement)."

[b]Not all accidents with bodily injuries fall under this definition[/b] (no death and no serious injury). Who makes the determination regarding serious injury, probably the police officer on the scene (maybe don't get the police involved). Drive slow or in slow traffic and less likely anyone will get seriously hurt if an accident occurs. Some places have more motos than others, so be more careful in those cities. I have driven on highways and roads that were empty.

Driving under the influence is not a good idea in the Dom Rep.

If the police on the scene want a driver in custody that custody is not always in a jail. National / Alamo on the recent cars I have rented had insurance with Universal (seems to be a well known company in the DR) ;

[url]http://www.universal.com.do/Inicio[/url]

I have asked numerous times at National / Alamo and been told no jail.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JJ341;1415843]There is an insurance waiver that is called something like Casa de Conductor. If you are involved in a car accident that would normally require you to go to the jail you are put up in a hotel instead while the case is being investigated. I think the hotel is located on Maximo Gomez or near there.[/QUOTE]Maybe a few people on this site think that people jump in front of cars for no good reason. People in the DR don't want to be in accidents. 80% of the time no one around when I am driving (highways are good). I have photos. Drive in cities, go slow.

Not all accidents involve the police. Not all accidents involve serious injuries or death. Majority of people driving in the DR have not had a problem.

Universal Insurance Company in the DR, [url]http://www.universal.com.do/Inicio/Personas/Automovil/Basico:[/url] "Casa del Conductor: donde cuentas un personal especializado para los levantamientos de actas policiales why areápida tramitacióand de las acciones legales sin necesidad de acudir a la policía, en caso de accidente."

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1415825]You and I and one other person got into separate wrecks in the same week two involving vehicles and you on a motorcycle, of course Jaosousa doesn't know anyone that got into a wreck even though it was his best buddy that was one of the three, and he mooched a meal of you at Blackbeards that time so he knows two, of course he will make up any story he wants because he can.[/QUOTE]I had no food with Pooter at Blackbeards, I paid for the drinks. I paid for the food and the drinks at the restaurant outside the gates to costambar. I picked Pooter up on the malecon and also drove him to where he lived, using the rental car, I did a round-trip that day santo domingo to puerto plata back to santo domingo, in less than 24 hours. I gave Pooter a gift and his G / F maybe got a perfume (not important the money or gifts). Cost to Pooter was nothing, only his time. I spent less than two hours with him. Good sense of humor, had me laughing.

No one has contacted me about any car accidents in the DR.

If you want to post falsities on this site, that is your choice. You have called me a piece of shit in the past because I wrote to another member that it is not a good idea to drink and drive. I'll be in DR tomorrow.

I answered your question, now answer mine as you indicated you would.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415651]Have you ever rented a car in the Dominican Republic?

I'll answer your question when you respond to my question (I have asked you basic, easy non-confrontational questions recently and your response one time was to curse at me and try to insult me).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Manizales911; 1415715]No, I never have and never will. The reason I won't is because of the subject at hand. In addition, all of the other transportation options fit my needs, I understand the desire for some people to need or want to rent a car, I don't have that same desire or need. I have traveled all over the island north, south, east and west without renting one.

I don't need to have rented a car to opine what I think to be the general consensus on this board has been to what happens if a gringo hits and injures a local. We have a well experienced and respected member of this board that went through the experience personally. There also was a very defined report not that long ago on this forum that laid it out in extreme detail, if I can find it I will post it, if any other member knows the post I am referring to please post it, it wasn't that long ago, a month maybe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415651]Have you ever rented a car in the Dominican Republic?

I'll answer your question when you respond to my question (I have asked you basic, easy non-confrontational questions recently and your response one time was to curse at me and try to insult me).[/QUOTE]This is true but you're still in their custody and can't leave and are at their mercy. Still better than being in jail though.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1415715]No, I never have and never will. The reason I won't is because of the subject at hand. In addition, all of the other transportation options fit my needs, I understand the desire for some people to need or want to rent a car, I don't have that same desire or need. I have traveled all over the island north, south, east and west without renting one.

I don't need to have rented a car to opine what I think to be the general consensus on this board has been to what happens if a gringo hits and injures a local. We have a well experienced and respected member of this board that went through the experience personally. There also was a very defined report not that long ago on this forum that laid it out in extreme detail, if I can find it I will post it, if any other member knows the post I am referring to please post it, it wasn't that long ago, a month maybe.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JJ341;1415843]There is an insurance waiver that is called something like Casa de Conductor. If you are involved in a car accident that would normally require you to go to the jail you are put up in a hotel instead while the case is being investigated. I think the hotel is located on Maximo Gomez or near there.[/QUOTE]

[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1415819]Not very sound logically. It is like the old story of the guy who fell out of a window on the 38th floor. As he passed someone looking out on the 25th he shouted "No problems so far".[/QUOTE]Hahaha, perfect analogy Sir Charles. It's like the guys that walk around wearing expensive jewelry and cameras,"I've never been robbed so it must be safe".

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1416038]I answered your question, now answer mine as you indicated you would.[/QUOTE]The Dominican Law you referenced states that only death and serious injury require custody. [b]According to Dominican Law not everyone gets locked after an accident[/b].

I have been in a minor accident where nothing happened (absolutely nothing, zero). There is at least one post on this forum where a guy paid the medical bills of some person who got hurt in an accident (you can do a search and I am sure you will find it).

I may post further information.

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[QUOTE=Manizales911;1416045][/QUOTE]Hahaha, perfect analogy Sir Charles. It's like the guys that walk around wearing expensive jewelry and cameras,"I've never been robbed so it must be safe".[/QUOTE]Every pitbull who bit someone had to have its first victim. Prior to that, it never bit anyone. Never!

[quote=jaosousa;1416019]i had no food with pooter at blackbeards, i paid for the drinks. i paid for the food and the drinks at the restaurant outside the gates to costambar. i picked pooter up on the malecon and also drove him to where he lived, using the rental car, i did a round-trip that day santo domingo to puerto plata back to santo domingo, in less than 24 hours. i gave pooter a gift and his g / f maybe got a perfume (not important the money or gifts). cost to pooter was nothing, only his time. i spent less than two hours with him. good sense of humor, had me laughing.[/quote]it is not clear what hillybilly means, but just in case let me state that jaosousa invited me and my gf out, he paid for everything although i did offer to pay our share. although he had never met either of us before he gave my gf a large bottle of perfume which has lasted her until recently. we had a good outing to costambar and a lot of laughs.

i posted as much at the time and i have never implied anything different in speech or writing to anyone. i have never met js since as he doesn't come to the north coast much but i would be delighted to do so anytime when the drinks will be on me.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1415837]That Everyone gets locked up?

"Dominican law requires that a driver be taken into custody for [b]driving under the influence[/b] Or being involved in an accident that causes [b]serious injury or death[/b], even if the driver is insured and appears not to have been at fault. The minimum detention period is 48 hours; however, detentions frequently last until a judicial decision is reached (often weeks or months) , or until a waiver is signed by the injured party (usually as the result of a cash settlement)."

[b]Not all accidents with bodily injuries fall under this definition[/b] (no death and no serious injury). Who makes the determination regarding serious injury, probably the police officer on the scene (maybe don't get the police involved). Drive slow or in slow traffic and less likely anyone will get seriously hurt if an accident occurs. Some places have more motos than others, so be more careful in those cities. I have driven on highways and roads that were empty.

Driving under the influence is not a good idea in the Dom Rep.

If the police on the scene want a driver in custody that custody is not always in a jail. National / Alamo on the recent cars I have rented had insurance with Universal (seems to be a well known company in the DR) ;

[url]http://www.universal.com.do/Inicio[/url]

I have asked numerous times at National / Alamo and been told no jail.[/QUOTE]You and I have met and I respect you, but I would believe if you were to have an accident with a Dominican, they will complain about their "injuries" to a point that you will have to pay a settlement or be inconvenienced with the detention.

I have a friend who works for Rica and has a company vehicle. 2 guys on a motoconcho crashed into his vehicle on purpose, then claimed injury. He got detained until Rica put up a guarantee. Later in court different motoconcho guys showed up, with a lawyer. The cop that was in court knew they weren't they same guys and the judge dismissed the case. These are dominicans against dominicans and my friend was detained, even though his company insures him. The injuries were false. Imagine if the samething happens with an american? Lock up until cash is extorted for all parties.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1416097]You and I have met and I respect you, but I would believe if you were to have an accident with a Dominican, they will complain about their "injuries" to a point that you will have to pay a settlement or be inconvenienced with the detention.[/QUOTE]What happens if I complain about injuries first?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1416103]What happens if I complain about injuries first?[/QUOTE]You get detained until you bribe yourself.

[quote=charles pooter;1416087]we had a good outing to costambar and a lot of laughs.[/quote]great sense of humor you have. it was pleasure.

i did not know if you had an accident, sorry to hear, i hope you made a speedy and complete recovery.

Jackson says I can only post actionable information, I will follow his rules and if there are future posts will only have information about prostitutes (cost and location). I will turn PM off.

[url]http://www.songstube.net/video.php?title=Quizas[/url]

%2C%20Quizas%2C%20Quizas&artistid=10726&artist=Nat%20King%20Cole&I'd=158185.

Not sure. To the rap crowd, it might look tacky or quaint but I just thought it was beautiful and wanted to share with the spanish speaking / understanding crowd. The words, simple as they are, sound even more beautiful in a voice that golden with what I thought was a cuban rhythm.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1417355][url]http://www.songstube.net/video.php?title=Quizas[/url]

%2C%20Quizas%2C%20Quizas&artistid=10726&artist=Nat%20King%20Cole&I'd=158185.

Not sure. To the rap crowd, it might look tacky or quaint but I just thought it was beautiful and wanted to share with the spanish speaking / understanding crowd. The words, simple as they are, sound even more beautiful in a voice that golden with what I thought was a cuban rhythm.[/QUOTE]The link does not work, but I am a big fan of Nat Cole anyway, though I prefer his instrumental trio with Cole on piano and Oscar Moore on guitar. Even if he had never achieved commercial success as a a crooner, his piano trio work would still make him one of the top artists of all time.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aMiEARA9iI[/url]

Sorry about that. For some reason, perhaps because it is long, the link on this site is split but if you highlight the whole thing and open it in a separate tab, at least in my firefox it works.

Enjoyed your link. I did not know Cole as a pianist but as a vocalist. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1418901]The link does not work, but I am a big fan of Nat Cole anyway, though I prefer his instrumental trio with Cole on piano and Oscar Moore on guitar. Even if he had never achieved commercial success as a a crooner, his piano trio work would still make him one of the top artists of all time.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aMiEARA9iI[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1418908]Sorry about that. For some reason, perhaps because it is long, the link on this site is split but if you highlight the whole thing and open it in a separate tab, at least in my firefox it works.

Enjoyed your link. I did not know Cole as a pianist but as a vocalist. Thanks.[/QUOTE]OK I found a rendition of Quizas on Youtube [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=habWYM364RA[/url]

This is from the 1956 album Cole Espanol and the soundtrack was recorded in Cuba and then he added the vocals in Spanish over in Los Angeles. His Spanish accent is absolutely atrocious. Diabolical! This was the first of 3 Spanish language albums he made.

A very different version of the song by Mari Wilson was used as the theme tune for the popular BBC sitcom Coupling. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcgMyQjFGrM[/url]

However in my opinion the Doris Day version is definitive:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugXSBjptFhM[/url]

This has a slightly Cuban-sounding backing track featuring vibraphone and strings-probably recorded by a studio orchestra in the US, but nicely done.

Or if you want to hear Doris taking a shot at Spanish, here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WNHNfBUFB0

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1418970]OK I found a rendition of Quizas on Youtube.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=habWYM364RA[/url][/QUOTE]You got it! Whoa you know all the background info as well of that track? Thanks for the other links. I checked and while I loved Mari Wilson's vocal quality, I was miffed by the "Perhaps" thing. The song, apparently is writen by a Cuban and so I enjoyed it in the original language but of course, the accent is what it is. And who am I to complain? LOL.

By the way, the Doris Day's thing, Que sera, sera, is a classic French expression. It is not a common expression in Italian that is for sure even though it would be similar: Lo che sara, sara but now that I think about it in Spanish as an expression, QUIZAS?

Recently made a couple of trips on the bus from Santo Domingo to Puerto Plata. On one ride I was sitting next to a very obvious young prostitute bound for Sosua, with several tatoos in conspicuous locations like on her hand and neck, fancy cell phone the whole works. Chatted a bit, but I was not very interested in her.

At Santiago we had to change buses due to some mechanical problem and I ended up sharing a seat with another Dominican woman of 27 who didn't look like a hooker at first glance, but it became apparent in conversation that she too was headed to Sosua, had been there one time before eight months ago for two months, and this time was going for a month. She looked hard up-no fancy hairstyle and no cell phone at all, no fancy clothes visible. She was headed to stay at a hotel in Charamicos where a friend is already staying. She had a pleasant manner, though no great looker with slightly crooked teeth, but with slim, sexy legs, but I kind of liked her. By the time we got to my stop we were whispering in each other's ears what we would like to do to each other and the atmosphere was getting steamy.

A pleasant way to pass the time on a bus ride-only in the DR. She has extended an invitation to me to visit her in Charamicos, but probably I will be too busy.

On my last trip when leaving Sosua I struck up a conversation with a slim girl with 38 DS at the station. We get on the bus and she invites my wing to the back seat for a BJ. It was my boys 1st DR trip. He failed to complete the deal but it made my day. Fran did you get any pictures of the girls I hooked you up with.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1420686]Recently made a couple of trips on the bus from Santo Domingo to Puerto Plata. On one ride I was sitting next to a very obvious young prostitute bound for Sosua, with several tatoos in conspicuous locations like on her hand and neck, fancy cell phone the whole works. Chatted a bit, but I was not very interested in her.

At Santiago we had to change buses due to some mechanical problem and I ended up sharing a seat with another Dominican woman of 27 who didn't look like a hooker at first glance, but it became apparent in conversation that she too was headed to Sosua, had been there one time before eight months ago for two months, and this time was going for a month. She looked hard up-no fancy hairstyle and no cell phone at all, no fancy clothes visible. She was headed to stay at a hotel in Charamicos where a friend is already staying. She had a pleasant manner, though no great looker with slightly crooked teeth, but with slim, sexy legs, but I kind of liked her. By the time we got to my stop we were whispering in each other's ears what we would like to do to each other and the atmosphere was getting steamy.

A pleasant way to pass the time on a bus ride-only in the DR. She has extended an invitation to me to visit her in Charamicos, but probably I will be too busy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frannie;1420686]A pleasant way to pass the time on a bus ride-only in the DR. She has extended an invitation to me to visit her in Charamicos, but probably I will be too busy.[/QUOTE]You are a killjoy, LOL! I was hoping you would regale us with steamier episode 2 coming soon to a theater near us.

Have a look at this :

Santo Domingo- Any man who goes to brothels in the capital and Santiago for sexual services will be arrested, booked and charged with solicitation, Justice minister Francisco Dominguez warned Wednesday, adding that the measure will begin in five specific points.

"And men who go to obtain that type of service, for example, we're going to arrest them, those citizens will be charged with pandering, and if they make bail, give them what they want, but they'll be booked with a criminal record and will have to pay bond, and so that will occur at several points," the official said.

Brothels.

Dominguez said the first brothels to be staked out are those on the Malecon (Washington Av.) , on the Sarasota, Duarte and Ortega why Gasset, and in Santiago Calle del Sol.

"He who takes advantage of a woman's poverty, in a position of vulnerability, that's clearly stated as an act of pandering," the official said in an interview by the Corripio Media Group, accompanied by Police chief Jose A. Polanco, Interior and Police minister Jose Ramon Fadul.

Found on this link :

[url]http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2013/5/9/47559/Hire-a-hooker-go-to-jail-top-official-warns[/url]

I realize this is maybe a little off topic, but I figured that with all the expertise on this forum I would get some good info.

I have mongered in more than a few spots around the globe, but the DR is not one of them and my knowledge of this subject is almost zero. I have been tasked with arranging a "boys trip", which means that it must include some reasonably good golf and also good opportunities for some "rental friends" for the evenings. The golf offers "plausible deniability" for the real purpose of the trip.

I would appreciate if there are golfers on this forum that can point me in the correct direction, or offer recommendations I would be grateful. I have tried to RTFF on this subject, but came up blank. TIA.

Sky

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1423092]I realize this is maybe a little off topic, but I figured that with all the expertise on this forum I would get some good info.

I have mongered in more than a few spots around the globe, but the DR is not one of them and my knowledge of this subject is almost zero. I have been tasked with arranging a "boys trip", which means that it must include some reasonably good golf and also good opportunities for some "rental friends" for the evenings. The golf offers "plausible deniability" for the real purpose of the trip.

I would appreciate if there are golfers on this forum that can point me in the correct direction, or offer recommendations I would be grateful. I have tried to RTFF on this subject, but came up blank. TIA.

Sky[/QUOTE]Easy answer. Stay at Playa Dorada all-inclusive in Puerto Plata. They are desperate for customers and offering some great deals. Even better if you can get a flight+hotel package. Good golf course on the complex though a little run down from its best days. Nice clean beach. 15 minutes safe and pleasant walk through the golf course to Field of Dreams for chicas and short-stay rooms.

The disadvantage of staying at Playa Dorada for a single monger is the cost of taxis to get anywhere, but if you are in a group this becomes trivial as local taxis charge the same regardless of how many passengers so it works out cheap per person. You can vary your stay with outings to Puerto Plata city and Sosua.

Read the Puerto Plata section for more info about Field of Dreams and the area.

Looking for a villa steps from or directly on the beach in Juan Dolio only. I'm having a hard time finding one, most are the large condos or are too far, for my taste, from the beach. The hotel I like on the beach is only a one bedroom and I need more space.

Thanks for your input.

Peace.

BBL

[QUOTE=Blk Big Bootyluv; 1431854]Looking for a villa steps from or directly on the beach in Juan Dolio only. I'm having a hard time finding one, most are the large condos or are too far, for my taste, from the beach. The hotel I like on the beach is only a one bedroom and I need more space.

Thanks for your input.

Peace.

BBL[/QUOTE]Homeaway dot com has a few listings for 2BR units at Tower Marbella, right on the beach. Pictures look pretty impressive. Prices vary from $85 to $225 per night.
There's one listing for a unit at the Atabey II, which I recognize is right next door (west) to Barcelo Capella. Very modern looking place, even better price $83 to $120? Please report back I'm interested myself!

I didn'[t see this article before, but it seems to indicate that the Rep. Dom. Government is keen to counter the DR's reputation as a center of sex trafficking and controlled women working in slave like conditions. This article indicates an intention to take actions in places like Sosua, Cabrera, Las Terrenas, and Boca Chica. Whether this will affect freelance prostitution remains to be seen.

[url]http://www.diariolibre.com/dlenglish/2013/05/20/i384476_are-going-put-end-networks-prostitution.html[/url]

Me and my GF will be there on the 12th. Was wondering if there are any working girls on property or do staffers moonlight for a little extra cash. How much does is it cost to bring someone on for a few hours or would it be best if we got a room for a few hours. And is there somewhere in the area or within a short distance that we both can find some fine browned skinned cuties. She wants to be eaten and watch me getting a BJ.

Any suggestions or recommendations please replay.

Latest news I heard on tc a few days ago was that 53 men had been arrested including six tourists in the Santo Domingo region for allegedly soliciting prostitution. Will keep you guys informed as soon as I hear any new info on this topic.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1441748]I didn'[t see this article before, but it seems to indicate that the Rep. Dom. Government is keen to counter the DR's reputation as a center of sex trafficking and controlled women working in slave like conditions. This article indicates an intention to take actions in places like Sosua, Cabrera, Las Terrenas, and Boca Chica. Whether this will affect freelance prostitution remains to be seen.

[url]http://www.diariolibre.com/dlenglish/2013/05/20/i384476_are-going-put-end-networks-prostitution.html[/url][/QUOTE]If they really go after organized crime and people trafficking, we should applaud them. But this being the DR I think this initiative will soon run aground. As you know, Frannie, the authorities have been at stalemate (win some, lose some) in the UK for decades. If they cannot crack it there, where there is less corruption and better intelligence, I cannot see them getting very far in the DR. No doubt the crime lords have friends and family members highly placed in the Government, police and armed forces. Same situation with the campaign against drug smuggling.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1441834]If they really go after organized crime and people trafficking, we should applaud them. But this being the DR I think this initiative will soon run aground. As you know, Frannie, the authorities have been at stalemate (win some, lose some) in the UK for decades. If they cannot crack it there, where there is less corruption and better intelligence, I cannot see them getting very far in the DR. No doubt the crime lords have friends and family members highly placed in the Government, police and armed forces. Same situation with the campaign against drug smuggling.[/QUOTE]You are probably right. The problem is that there is no doubt that there are professional recruiters sending Dominicanas in bulk to brothels overseas, but the question is whether they go voluntarily and know what to expect. Some years ago I met a pair of girls at a club in Puerto Plata who had been working in a strip club / brothel in Spain on a six-month contract. They enthusiastically planned to return to Spain on another contract as soon as possible! No doubt they would be included in the "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]" statistics.

Given that Dominicans are very restricted in where they can travel overseas, it is hardly surprising that they take the opportunities that are available so they can see the world. Some people travel as backpackers, but Dominicanas take in the world on their backs.

[QUOTE=BgDadiKev;1441760]Me and my GF will be there on the 12th. Was wondering if there are any working girls on property or do staffers moonlight for a little extra cash. How much does is it cost to bring someone on for a few hours or would it be best if we got a room for a few hours. And is there somewhere in the area or within a short distance that we both can find some fine browned skinned cuties. She wants to be eaten and watch me getting a BJ. Any suggestions or recommendations please replay.[/QUOTE]The Barcelo is a bit off from public areas. Also there is not so much going on in Punta Cana.

I never was in the BArcelo but I guess they do it like most All In Resots there and if you want to bring a Person in you need to buy a Day Pass that the Person get a whrist Band. Day Passes are usually about 50 dollars.

Best Bet would be to go to the Bar "Steves Corner" and look to find a Bi Chica. Other Sugesstion would be to go to the Disco "Mangu" at Night and search there. It is in the same Area. There are Hotels close that offers the rooms for ST Action.

The Disco Imagine should be close to your Hotel. But I don't think there many Working Girls.

Since I never was in the Barcelo I don't know if any Staff is available. But most Workers in the Resorts come from all over the Island and can't afford to loose their Job because they hooked up with Guests.

I was in the Palladium a few weeks ago and the Beach Hustlers offered everything. They started to offer parasailing after I declined they offered drugs and after I declined that they offered Chicas. I dealt a bit more with one of them. Deal was to go to the to the town near the Palladium, El Cortecito. I had to Pay for the Chica, for sure incuding a fee for him + a room in El cortecito for ST.

I was hanging out on the Beach all day long and did see that the security is not always there. Also my Room was close to the beach. I did know that I could sneak in with a girl without problems. So we negotiate the price a bit. In the End I had to pay 2500 pesos for ST. Chica was about a 7 and I took her in my room. I would have paid 1000 more for the room which would propably been a dirt hole. Sex was good but not great.

Maybe you can find such hustlers as well on the beach at the Barcelo. I don't know.

It's not cheap but it is Punta Cana. This is not a Monger Destination it is a Honeymoon Destiantion. LOL.

I also tried to get into the Staff Girls. I had nice conversations with them but not more. Basically they did their job and tried to be nice to me as guest. But I always feeled they at some point is not more going and basically you only could speak with them about god and the world. On my last 2 Days in the Palladium I invited my Dominican GF. When she arrived and we had conversations with the staff they always said that they wondered why I am alone, that they find me cute and that they are jelous on my gf because she has me.

I would say the staff would love to offer more to guests but they are just too afraid to loose their job. I am sure that count for all All Inclusive Resorts.

You still can try to get one off the staff girls, that would be the shortest distance.

Now I found out I forget to put a report of my DR Trip up.

Since I was not much into mongering it did not happen too much but I will put a full report up the next days. You guys helped me alot and reading the psots helped me much.

Sorry for my bad English but I am a no native English speaking European, but no Italian (sarcasm)

sensationalized report in the daily mail about dominican guests at an all inclusive "using the swimming pool as a lavatory" and cleaning out the self service buffets, causing british vacationers to stage a protest.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358688/holiday-hell-britons-stage-sit-luxury-resort-rowdy-locals-super-cheap-deals-use-pool-toilet-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url]-sun-loungers-steal-food.html[/url]

[quote=frannie; 1444188]sensationalized report in the daily mail about dominican guests at an all inclusive "using the swimming pool as a lavatory" and cleaning out the self service buffets, causing british vacationers to stage a protest.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2358688/holiday-hell-britons-stage-sit-luxury-resort-rowdy-locals-super-cheap-deals-use-pool-toilet-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url]-sun-loungers-steal-food.html[/url][/quote]i've been to this hotel. i live here as most know, and i've taken advantage of the weekend local deals, which are great. the time i went to riu the dominicans where not that bad, the problem i had where the europeans and their constant smoking.

this hotel has an enormous buffet restaurant, and with the added guests, the service was lacking but the food never ran out. also, the time i went it was quite cold and the pool was empty of people as well as fecal matter.

however!

i was recently in punta cana on another weekend deal and the dominicans there where a pain in the ass, they did not wait in lines, constantly skipping thinking they did not have to wait. i've learned that when dominicans think they can disrespect me, i put them in there place immediately. i don't put up with the bs. in my opinion, the hotel needs to hand out rules to everyone, about hygiene, respecting people's personal space, following the lines, etc. a lot of dominicans don't have any common courtesy.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1444320]I've been to this hotel. I live here as most know, and I've taken advantage of the weekend local deals, which are great. The time I went to Riu the Dominicans where not that bad, the problem I had where the Europeans and their constant smoking.

This hotel has an enormous buffet restaurant, and with the added guests, the service was lacking but the food never ran out. Also, the time I went it was quite cold and the pool was empty of people as well as fecal matter.[/QUOTE]So you shat in the pool before you left to get them back for their smoking?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1444325]So you shat in the pool before you left to get them back for their smoking?[/QUOTE]To be fair, the Daily Mail is not known for well researched or objective reporting and the defecation in the pool might have been an isolated incident involving a child. Such things are not unknown in pools in the US, and I remember the same thing happening at a YMCA pool I used to swim laps in in Florida that was very strictly supervised and completely free of Dominicans.

Smoking, on the other hand, is a common nuisance, and I have often been annoyed when people have lit up cigarettes at the side of a pool where I am swimming, blowing their smoke into the pool, which is almost as bad as taking a dump in the pool. One does not even have to see them to know when one is taking a breath of cigarette smoke. Also a common nuisance in the DR is people entering the pool when wearing perfume or cologne (in spite of instructions to shower before entering the pool) , which gives the water an unpleasant bitter taste, or entering the pool wearing street clothes, which may add detergent or dyes that can upset the ph of the water. Where I currently live the pool is crystal clear, as almost all residents comply with the rules.

Opposition to President Obama's nominee for USA ambassador to the Dominican Republic reached a fever pitch this week as religious organizers stage a "Lunes Negro" or Black Monday protest against James "Wally" Brewster.

If confirmed, Brewster will be the first openly gay ambassador to the country, a prospect that is not going over well with some segments of this conservative Christian country of 9 million people. Local reports indicate that church leaders are pressuring the government to reject Brewster's nomination and calling on the faithful to dress in black on Monday in solidarity against him.

Praise Christian Church Pastor Sauford Medrano is quoted in Diario Libre as saying that Brewster could cause "the USA promotion of gender beliefs in the country." That supposedly violates a general education law in the country that "all the Dominican education system is based on Christian principles."

The report was flagged by Cable reader and Dominican expat Will Williams, an architect in New York City. He said he witnessed the animosity toward the ambassador in a visit last weekend."I could confirm myself that the opposition has been even worse from what have been reflected in the news," he said."As a Dominican, I feel ashamed this is happening in my country. The evangelical church is convoking the general public to reject this ambassador. [It's] asking the public to show a black band, black banner or ribbon on cars or dress showing rejection."

In a statement to The Cable, Monica Trasandes, director of Spanish Language Media at GLAAD, defended the president's pick."We stand with LGBT advocates in the Dominican Republic, who are calling on leaders to quit categorizing their country's population as homophobic," she said."We hope that James Brewster will help educate those still adversely affected by homophobia and applaud the work of LGBT advocates in the Dominican Republic."

When news of opposition to Brewster first began, the Dominican embassy in Washington told The Cable that the country supports the president's pick."The Dominican Republic is a democracy with a vibrant media and a wide diversity of opinions on every conceivable topic," the statement read."However, it is the position of the Government of the Dominican Republic that a person's sexual preference is strictly a personal matter and it looks forward to working constructively with Mr. Brewster in his official capacity once his nomination is approved by the USA Senate."

In June, the AP spoke with Catholic and evangelical church leaders who opposed the nomination."If he arrives, he'll suffer and will be forced to leave," Vicar Pablo Cedano, told the AP. He said the pick showed "a lack of respect, of consideration, that they send us that kind of person as ambassador." Rev. Cristobal Cardozo, leader of the Dominican Evangelical Fraternity, said the appointment was offensive."It's an insult to good Dominican customs," he said.

Brewster was a fundraiser for Obama and currently works at the Chicago consulting firm SB&K.

[url]http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/07/11/dominicans_rage_against_obamas_gay_ambassador_pick[/url]

There was an earthquake here in the Dominican Republic two days ago (Monday.) It is not clear whether there is any connection with the recent clampdown on brothels, and so far no sex tourists have been charged in connection with the earthquake.

[url]http://beforeitsnews.com/weather/2013/07/moderate-earthquake-in-santo-domingo-today-2441166.html[/url]

So, Frannie, you think it is the extra sweetness of Haitian pussy that provoked goudougoudou of Jan 12th 2010 and subsequently BadBear marriage?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1447252]There was an earthquake here in the Dominican Republic two days ago (Monday.) It is not clear whether there is any connection with the recent clampdown on brothels, and so far no sex tourists have been charged in connection with the earthquake.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

I'm considering my first trip to the DR next month. I will be reading these forums over the next few days. In the meantime, a few questions:

- which city would you recommend as the best option for a first timer to the DR in terms of having a good beach, good sexy fun girls (pros and non pros alike)? I was thinking of either Puerto Plata and Sosua.

- if staying at an all inclusive resort, can I get a girl in my room during the day or at night?

- do they charge extra for guests in these resorts? If yes how much.

- what is the general going rate for both ST and LT in PP and Sosua?

Thanks a lot guys!

[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1448257]Hey guys,

I'm considering my first trip to the DR next month. I will be reading these forums over the next few days. In the meantime, a few questions:

- which city would you recommend as the best option for a first timer to the DR in terms of having a good beach, good sexy fun girls (pros and non pros alike)? I was thinking of either Puerto Plata and Sosua.

- if staying at an all inclusive resort, can I get a girl in my room during the day or at night?

- do they charge extra for guests in these resorts? If yes how much.

- what is the general going rate for both ST and LT in PP and Sosua?

Thanks a lot guys![/QUOTE]Definetly Sosua,

- Never stayed at an all inclusive don't know anything about them, I usually stay at one of Rocky's establishments in Sosua.

- You don't need an all inclusive, big wast of money and not close to the action. Get a monger friendly place in Sosua, hit the beach during the day and the strip at night and you won't regret it.

-1500 pesos short time an hour or two. 3000 long time all night (they will ask for more if they think you don't know anything, but they will all accept these rates)

Chris

[quote=Sprite13; 1448257]- do they charge extra for guests in these resorts? If yes how much.[/quote]Ofc they charge extra. If you are lucky they charge the price for a 2nd person. But you pay what you would pay booking at the hotel homepage and NOT what you pay when you book with a travel company or somewhere in the internet. It is usually more expensive than what you paid for yourself. If it really go bad they charge you a guest fee twice. A daypass and Nightpass. Once for staying during they day till dinner. And the same amount for dinner and the night.

I was in Punta Cana a few weeks back. I wantet to invite my GF for a couple days. I paid 72 Euros per night. I asked the Hotel per mail and they wanted additional

190 euros per night for a 2nd person. LOL. I checked their homepage and did see that they common price there was about 250 Euro per night.

I did know that my GF will show up and also I did know that I will spent all the time with her. So I booked her stay over my travel company for 72Euros.

When you know the Chica and want to hang around with her for a couple days and you trust her and know she will show up, then I would book in advance in the internet.

But when you pick up random girls and want a good time the resort will usually charge you alot for it.

[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1448257]Hey guys,

I'm considering my first trip to the DR next month. I will be reading these forums over the next few days. In the meantime, a few questions:

- which city would you recommend as the best option for a first timer to the DR in terms of having a good beach, good sexy fun girls (pros and non pros alike)? I was thinking of either Puerto Plata and Sosua.

- if staying at an all inclusive resort, can I get a girl in my room during the day or at night?

- do they charge extra for guests in these resorts? If yes how much.

- what is the general going rate for both ST and LT in PP and Sosua?[/QUOTE]These questions have been answered dozens of times on this board. Why don't you read the forums first, then ask about anything not answered?

Chris, RocheB and CharlesP, thanks for the feedback guys. Much appreciated!

I also never stay at all inclusives and the reason I'm asking about them is when I did a quick search a few days ago on prices, I found out that an all inclusive resort in Sosua (including airfare) would be [i]cheaper[/i] Than buying airfare alone to POP! Sounds crazy I know.

Roche. 190E / night for a 2nd person? That's ridiculous! Are there short term hotels just for banging in Sosua to take girls?

Another question I have about the quality of girls in the DR, I'm not into black women or big / fat ghetto type of women at all, I prefer them morenas and flaquitas with a well proportioned ass and a nice rack. Is that type of women a rarity or a common thing in the DR?

Gracias muchachos!

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1448288]Definetly Sosua,

- Never stayed at an all inclusive don't know anything about them, I usually stay at one of Rocky's establishments in Sosua.

- You don't need an all inclusive, big wast of money and not close to the action. Get a monger friendly place in Sosua, hit the beach during the day and the strip at night and you won't regret it.

-1500 pesos short time an hour or two. 3000 long time all night (they will ask for more if they think you don't know anything, but they will all accept these rates)

Chris[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1448652]Chris, RocheB and CharlesP, thanks for the feedback guys. Much appreciated!

I also never stay at all inclusives and the reason I'm asking about them is when I did a quick search a few days ago on prices, I found out that an all inclusive resort in Sosua (including airfare) would be [i]cheaper[/i] Than buying airfare alone to POP! Sounds crazy I know.

Roche. 190E / night for a 2nd person? That's ridiculous! Are there short term hotels just for banging in Sosua to take girls?

Another question I have about the quality of girls in the DR, I'm not into black women or big / fat ghetto type of women at all, I prefer them morenas and flaquitas with a well proportioned ass and a nice rack. Is that type of women a rarity or a common thing in the DR?

Gracias muchachos![/QUOTE]How is it that the all inclusive with airfare is cheaper than just a flight to POP? I am assuming that you are flying into a different airport. If not, fill me in! Where did you find that deal?

I am not sure what "morena" and "flaquita" mean, but in general, the DR is a country of spanish speaking people of generally african descent. Some are lighter skin then others. And of course, they are thinner ones, but they are generally "fuller" in figure. There is some mixed latino descent, so you can find some light skinned ones, but you get the drift. If you like them latino looking, the DR is not the place.

[QUOTE=Sprite13;1448652]Roche. 190E / night for a 2nd person? That's ridiculous! Are there short term hotels just for banging in Sosua to take girls?[/QUOTE]My All inclusive Resort was in Punta Cana. As I heared the Price I was shocked as well haha.

[quote=manny51;1448680]. in general, the dr is a country of spanish speaking people of generally african descent . if you like them latino looking, the dr is not the place.[/quote]this is a bit misleading, especially once you are used to dominican culture. 95% of dominicans would consider themselves "latinos" and they are right in that their genes are preponderantly from spanish immigrants. they think their culture is too.

a rough breakdown by the usual classifications is:

15% blanco or trigueno (but note that most of these would be immediately distinguishable from, say, your average spaniard as they will nearly all have some african genes. over the decades they have been brainwashed into thinking any darker pigmentation comes from taino (indigenous) ancestry but actually the taino contribution is minute, certainly less than 1% and probably less than 0. 1%). this caste own and control 95% of the country.

30% indio claro (light brown skin comparable to the norm in the northern part of the indian sub-continent). they certainly consider themselves "latinos" and of spanish descent and most blancos would agree, even though they might only admit them into their own circles sparingly. but i guess in the usa they would be called "black"?

35% indio oscuro (dark brown skin but facial features, and maybe hair, which shows that they are not genetically mainly of african descent). they also consider themselves "latino" and claim spanish descent. they can hardly deny their african genetic contribution but take no pride in it. typically looked down upon by lighter-skinned dominicans and find it almost impossible to rise in society unless they are prepared to dirty their hands in the police or army.

15% moreno (african looking, but usually enough non-african genes to distinguish them from haitians). rarely make it out of the underclass.

5% prieto (dark black with no apparent latin features) usually with haitian parents or grandparents. often only distinguished from haitians by speech, dress, mannerisms, etc. routinely murdered by the dictators trujillo and balaguer, regardless of whether they held dominican citizenship.

that's just the 10 million dominicans. there are probably about one million haitians in the dr but no-one knows for sure.

if manny51 made one small change to his comment i would have no argument:

". the dr is a country of spanish-speaking people of generally [b]some[/b] african descent."

other complications:

the spanish genes which are by far the largest component (and not as manny51 suggests) are far from pure castillian. as is usual with emigration it was largely those with nothing to lose on the fringes of society who made the dangerous move to the new world, so the so-called "spanish" blood contained lots of canary, moorish and other non-european genes.

the word "moreno" is used very differently from in spain. there it just means "brunette" or "swarthy". in the dr it means what would unhesitatingly called "black" in the us.

those who spend most of their time with putas (most of us here) will get a misleading idea of the typical coloration of the island. because dominican putas preponderantly come from the underclass they tend to be darker-skinned than the average population.

because racism is endemic in every part of the population because of the lack of education and the bigoted nature of the little that does exist, it is often considered polite to denote everyone by the next lighter category to what they obviously are. for example, my girlfriend is bog-standard haitian but dominicans call her "morena" to her face. but amongst themselves they would call her "prieta" similarly "india oscuros" will be called "clara" or just "india". and so on. this can confuse newbie gringos into misunderstanding the categories.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1448825]The word "Moreno" is used very differently from in Spain. There it just means "brunette" or "swarthy". In the DR it means what would unhesitatingly called "black" in the US.

Because racism is endemic in every part of the population because of the lack of education and the bigoted nature of the little that does exist, it is often considered polite to denote everyone by the next lighter category to what they obviously are. For example, my girlfriend is bog-standard Haitian but Dominicans call her "morena" to her face. But amongst themselves they would call her "prieta" Similarly "india oscuros" will be called "clara" or just "india". And so on. This can confuse newbie gringos into misunderstanding the categories.[/QUOTE]This is true. I would call my Santo Domingo Girlfriend a Latina, maybe a bit darker. But I am European and know Latinas only from TV LOL. Also she use MakeUp for a even more lighter tan and avoid the sun like a vampire the light. She calles herself a Mulatta. Like alo dominicanas she has hair extentions. She say she does not like her real hair, propably because it shows her roots. I did not meet the whole family but her Grandmother is black. Her Parents are both dead so I don't know their color. Her sisters have all the same color like her. Her Kids are darker so I guess her Husband or Ex-Husband (Who knows.) was black.

She called every one who is darker than her "Moreno" in the Face. When she ordered Drinks or Food or whatever. She did not say "Hello Sir, I want to order." She said "Hey Moreno,." LOL.

First I was a bit shocked because I did know it is called black there. And where I live I do not go to Black People and call then "Hey Black Man whats up?"

I asked her about it and she said it is common there. She also said that she does not mind if people with the same skin color or lighter skinned call her a Morena.

But some other might be upset if you call her like that.

When I was in Punta Cana and also the Years before in Puerto Plata I think most People there have darker skin. Most employees in Hotels I met do not live there. And of course they all are from the lower class and travel there for work. In Santo Domingo I did see alot more light skinned dominicans, even white ones. But there again in the not so good jobs like Bartenders or Waiters was mostly black people. My GF said where she live in a outer Barrio of Santo Domingo most People are black and some Latinos. So is it true it is basically a economic and class thing there.

[QUOTE=RocheBrazi;1448862]Also she use make-up for a even lighter tan and avoid the sun like a vampire the light.[/QUOTE]In England I had a small operation for skin cancer (and there is fuck all sun in England!). My doctor said I was crazy to emigrate to the DR because my skin was so vulnerable.

But living here is designed to avoid the sun. It is very easy to avoid it if you want to. You see "indias" using parasols for the shortest walks so there is no risk of the sun darkening their skin, with horrific social consequences. I don't think there was originally any medical thinking involved, but with what we now know about the dangers of radiation they have been doing themselves a favour for decades (centuries?).

It is very sad that women here have been brain-washed into using that skin lightening cream. Maybe some brands are safe in First World counties, but I am sure the cheap stuff most of them buy here is not properly produced or tested and will do their skin awful damage in the long run. Same goes for hair-straightening stuff, though the worst that will do is leave them bald at 40.

[QUOTE=RocheBrazi; 1448862]She called every one who is darker than her "Moreno" in the Face. When she ordered Drinks or Food or whatever. She did not say "Hello Sir, I want to order." She said "Hey Moreno." LOL.

First I was a bit shocked because I did know it is called black there. And where I live I do not go to Black People and call then "Hey Black Man whats up?"

I asked her about it and she said it is common there.[/QUOTE]You have touched on two different, though related, issues.

I actually find the lack of political correctness here refreshing. In the colmado, the owner will ask me "What do you want, baldy" (or "gringo", which is so common now as to be no longer an insult, and is applied to all foreigners, not just Americans). They call people "gimps","shorty","fatty" or "chino" without intending offence and none is taken. Though if a white person called an indio claro "moreno" that would be seen as an intentional insult.

The other issue is the perceived "lack of manners". I still think Dominicans are ill-mannered pigs, but I have modified my views a bit. I have got used to the non-use of "please" or "thank you". But then as an Englishman I am horrified at the lack of manners in the urban US, if movies are to be believed. No doubt folks from the rural US think the same as me.

But Dominicans will constantly ask you "Como 'ta?". I used to just ignore this until I realised that some sort of response was actually expected, and I was appearing very uncouth in not giving one. Just different cultural expectations.

I love to read your cultural insights C. P. Your point about euphemistic race upgrades clicked with some confusion I had about that, being with obviously Haitian chicas and having dominicans call them "morena". I wondered about gringo. I tried one time asking dominicans and they found it hard to discuss with an actual member of the class. Is it now any foreigner? Are you a gringo? Are italians gringos? Black americans? I think in Kreyol Blan is pretty much just foreigner, detached from it's literal meaning and they would if I'm not mistaken call a black american "blan".

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1448918]I actually find the lack of political correctness here refreshing. In the colmado, the owner will ask me "What do you want, baldy" (or "gringo", which is so common now as to be no longer an insult, and is applied to all foreigners, not just Americans). They call people "gimps","shorty","fatty" or "chino" without intending offence and none is taken.[/QUOTE]I like that too, whereas where we come from we are forced to make believe that these differences are non-existent. They usually call me by "hermoso." LOL.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1448990]I like that too, whereas where we come from we are forced to make believe that these differences are non-existent. They usually call me by "hermoso." LOL.[/QUOTE]They tell me in Dominicano, then hit me up for money LOL.

[QUOTE=RocheBrazi;1448862]This is true. I would call my Santo Domingo Girlfriend a Latina, maybe a bit darker. But I am European and know Latinas only from TV LOL.[/QUOTE]But in what sense are you using the word Latina, because usually it does not refer to a color, but to ethnicity? A Latina can be black or white or partially native American if she comes from South America or Central America and can be a speaker of either Spanish or Portuguese. At least that is the US definition. What does it mean in Europe?

So whats the translation for como ta? Is it the slang for como te vas? Which is how are you correct? Thanks!

But Dominicans will constantly ask you "Como 'ta?". I used to just ignore this until I realised that some sort of response was actually expected, and I was appearing very uncouth in not giving one. Just different cultural expectations.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1448997]They tell me in Dominicano, then hit me up for money LOL.[/QUOTE]Well that ain't hard to believe. When I stopped at the Leon in La Romana yesterday the security guard at the machine told me it only gives a max of 2000 pesos. I told him I knew it. Then after I got my money his ass asked for some. I wanted to say n-word is you crazy.

Then about 20 minutes after that I saw a dude on motorbike who looked exactly like you. I started laughing my ass off.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1449136]A Latina can be black or white or partially native American if she comes from South America or Central America and can be a speaker of either Spanish or Portuguese. At least that is the US definition.[/QUOTE]Evidently it's the same way in South America. I actually did not even know this until last month when I was down in Brazil with one of my girls whose physical features are more indigenous than anything else. We have been good friends for over 7 years and on many occasions I have asked her what she considers herself as (Black, White, Indigena). We were talking about something and for the first time she referred to herself as Latina. I said what the hell are you talking about. I kept trying to get her to qualify her statement. She said that a Latina is anyone from Central or South America. This didn't make any sense at all to me because I thought a Latina was Spanish-speaking. So in my reasoning I asked her to verify that a person from Guyana where the language is English, a person from Suriname where the language is Dutch, or a person from French Guiana where the language is French would be called a Latina as well. She got mad at me and made me change the subject. I said damn a brother is just trying to learn something here.

So, since skin color is correlated with social staure, I ask the following question. Does, and how does skin color of a visiting monger effect things with the working girls?

[QUOTE=Brother P;1449150]So whats the translation for como ta? Is it the slang for como te vas? Which is how are you correct?[/QUOTE]It is not slang, it is Dominican. What I always heard was como tuta? And like CP I used to ignore the hell out of that. Until a chick realized that I would never answer when she said it so she got frustrated and kept asking and I got frustrated and yelled at her telling her I didn't know what the hell that meant and to speak Spanish. For me it is a tell-tale sign to whether someone is educated or not. An educated Dominican I can easily understand their Spanish. An uneducated one not so much. It's the same for a lot of languages. If even a native English speaker went to Chicago he might understand all that is said, but if he came down to Atlanta or New Orleans he may not even recognize the language when informally spoken as being English.

Another thing one of my girls kept doing was saying "pa" at the end of everything. This was in March. I had never heard this before. Hell I have known her 3 years and had not even heard her say it. I finally got fed up/frustrated and asked why she kept doing that. If I recall correctly she said it meant the same as saying "right" or "okay" at the end of something in English.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1449165]So, since skin color is correlated with social staure, I ask the following question. Does, and how does skin color of a visiting monger effect things with the working girls?[/QUOTE]They are working. The only color they care about is that brown paper.

I know thats the bottom line. But there still may be some issues.

For example, with everything equal, would a chica go with one over the other? Would they think the white guy had more $ and choose him first? Ask for more? Would they attempt to scammthe darker skinned, thinking they are eqsier to get over on?

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1449258]I know thats the bottom line. But there still may be some issues.

For example, with everything equal, would a chica go with one over the other? Would they think the white guy had more $ and choose him first? Ask for more? Would they attempt to scammthe darker skinned, thinking they are eqsier to get over on?[/QUOTE]Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the majority of the scams we have read about in the Sosua forum has been against white guys. Possibly because of the perception that the White men have more money.

Don't know if this site is legit or not, but some of you expats can verify the accuracy of the info:

[url]http://dominicanwatchdog.org/page-Too_many_tourists_killed_in_the_Dominican_Republic[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1449163]Evidently it's the same way in South America. I actually did not even know this until last month when I was down in Brazil with one of my girls whose physical features are more indigenous than anything else. We have been good friends for over 7 years and on many occasions I have asked her what she considers herself as (Black, White, Indigena). We were talking about something and for the first time she referred to herself as Latina. I said what the hell are you talking about. I kept trying to get her to qualify her statement. She said that a Latina is anyone from Central or South America. This didn't make any sense at all to me because I thought a Latina was Spanish-speaking. So in my reasoning I asked her to verify that a person from Guyana where the language is English, a person from Suriname where the language is Dutch, or a person from French Guiana where the language is French would be called a Latina as well. She got mad at me and made me change the subject. I said damn a brother is just trying to learn something here.[/QUOTE]Lmao, damn Mr E. Man I never bring up race and history with any girls I meet world wide. They seem to have been brainwashed and confused. Eventually its like what just happened to you. They can't back up their statements with facts so they get angry. Its like my dark skinned Dominicana saying Spanish when I asked her the color of her skin.

I only can tell you about the part in Europe where I live. Hard to explain. I will call some names from TV and music stars. People like Jenifer Lopez, Shakira, Jesicca Alba, Mihelle Rudriguez, Daddy Yankee or Pitbull are Latin People for us. We call the skin color "Mediterranean type". But you probably do not know that name in the US.

"Widespread disregard for personal safety and obeying the rules of the road has helped contribute to the World Health Organization (WHO) ranking the Dominican Republic as the world's most dangerous country for drivers. The 2013 report found there were 41. 7 motoring deaths per 100, 000 residents in 2010, nudging it ahead of Thailand."

[QUOTE=Brother P; 1449150]So whats the translation for como ta? Is it the slang for como te vas? Which is how are you correct? Thanks!

But Dominicans will constantly ask you "Como 'ta?". I used to just ignore this until I realised that some sort of response was actually expected, and I was appearing very uncouth in not giving one. Just different cultural expectations.[/QUOTE]I'm no expert but "Como ta" is short for "Como esta (usted)?" or Como estas (tu)?" (infomral) , the "Como tuta", only used in DR, is for "Como tu estas?" another way of saying "Como estas tu?"

"Como te va?" is like "How is it going (for you)?". Should never say "Como te vas?", (s) at the end of "va" will make it "te vas" that means "you leave". A point I missed for years!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1449163]She said that a Latina is anyone from Central or South America. This didn't make any sense at all to me because I thought a Latina was Spanish-speaking. So in my reasoning I asked her to verify that a person from Guyana where the language is English, a person from Suriname where the language is Dutch, or a person from French Guiana where the language is French would be called a Latina as well. She got mad at me and made me change the subject. I said damn a brother is just trying to learn something here.[/QUOTE]In the USA I once knew a woman from Guyana. She told me she had a double minority hiring preference in the US as she was both black and Hispanic. I queried the Hispanic part of it as she did not speak Spanish, but she explained that according to the US government definition anyone from South America qualified. I think, like with a lot of things, the US government just decides to keep it simple and ignore the relatively small number of non-black native English speakers from South or Central America (like Belize) although technically they might not be regarded as Hispanic. In Guyana about half the population are people of Asian Indian descent and speak English, so it is rather amusing that they might be classified as Hispanic in the US.

[QUOTE=Brother P; 1449150]So whats the translation for como ta? Is it the slang for como te vas? Which is how are you correct? Thanks!

But Dominicans will constantly ask you "Como 'ta?". I used to just ignore this until I realised that some sort of response was actually expected, and I was appearing very uncouth in not giving one. Just different cultural expectations.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Como ta is street language for como estas, or how are you? I sometimes use it on informal environments. Mr. E, I understand "pa" is really "ya" which means what you define "pa" means."Pa" depending of the situation means "papi" (daddy) or para. Voy pa Sosua (I am going to Sosua).

I was browsing the Internet when I ran across this news report video from ABC. I had a hunch the venue was either Brazil or DR, and I was right.

It baffles me how foreigners come in and express disgust about local practices that are not harming them. Sure, the cum stained bed sheet was gross, but she apparently did not bring the issue to the attention of the hotel staff. Just requesting a simple sheet change (I have done this on several occasions during my travels through Africa) would have removed the nightmare from her vacation. Also, it is her fault she only checked Groupon and not the hotel site to compare before booking room. Third party sites rarely offer best deals. And if she has a problem with prostitution, she could have vacationed in Aruba, Bahamas, St. Lucia, or even Jamaica or Puerto Rico. I am similarly baffled that families choose to vacation and stay at the mid priced hotels in Mombasa. A couple of years ago, this ******* of a father banged on the door separating our rooms while I was laying pipe to my Kenyan girlfriend (yes, she was loud!). I bet he won't bring his family there again! But thanks to ABC, I will be booking my next vacation to Haiti, DR, Colombia, and Brazil! Don Juan, here I cum!

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/video/vacation-nightmare-sun-sand-prostitutes-063959205.html[/url]

I think most get the idea I referred to this guy as a type of mule! Why heck, there is even a movie with the same name in which Stevo and his side kicks did stupid crazy stunts! Starts with a Jack and ends with bass (just drop the be since you definitely would not want to place that before an itch!). Now ain't that a *

[QUOTE=Jiggydus; 1460337]I will be booking my next vacation to Haiti, DR, Colombia, and Brazil! Don Juan, here I cum!

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/video/vacation-nightmare-sun-sand-prostitutes-063959205.html[/url][/QUOTE]That beach girl Carolina was quite cute. $90. 00 for full day is not outrageous. Could probably bargain it down. The hotel will likely get increased business as well. Don Juan resort you say-LOL

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1460375]That beach girl Carolina was quite cute. $90. 00 for full day is not outrageous. Could probably bargain it down. The hotel will likely get increased business as well. Don Juan resort you say-LOL[/QUOTE]Perfect example of a typical American tourist, these are the exact same people I was stuck with for 3 days in an AI that the airline put us up in when our plane broke down years ago. They couldn't even handle the drive from the airport without gawking while praying that we didn't break down until we got to the compound. The only ones that weren't complaining were the mongers, the rest swore they were never returning to the Dom Rep. Now can you see Carnival funneling their people all over the Dom Rep. By the way, did you notice her driving, someone should of said, by the way if a moto hits you even if it isn't your fault you have major problems. Americans are shielded, they have weak stomachs.

Big Deal. Prostitution is legal. Carolina was presented in a nice manner. The vendors are a bigger issue. Much to do about nothing.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1460423]Big Deal. Prostitution is legal. Carolina was presented in a nice manner. The vendors are a bigger issue. Much to do about nothing.[/QUOTE]I agree. Legal prostitution is only a problem for self righteous puritans. Too bad I hate government work because if I were in Congress, I would push to legalize prostitution and marijuana in the US. And when I say legalize, I don't mean to heavily regulate them. Just run your business and pay your business taxes (on marijuana only. Prostitution is a service industry and I would simplify tax code by elimination all service taxes. Airfare would also be tax free).

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1460588]I agree. Legal prostitution is only a problem for self righteous puritans. Too bad I hate government work because if I were in Congress, I would push to legalize prostitution and marijuana in the US. And when I say legalize, I don't mean to heavily regulate them. Just run your business and pay your business taxes (on marijuana only. Prostitution is a service industry and I would simplify tax code by elimination all service taxes. Airfare would also be tax free).[/QUOTE]In the US mj is already decriminalized and legal on the state level for medicinal purposes (remains illegal at the federal level).

It is interesting that where I currently live, women legislative advocates support legalizing prostitution since the women can be protected from the streets, monitored for health issues and prostitution sites can be taxed. Highly doubt a bill is introduced.

In the DR although prostitution is legal, I doubt the putas are paying taxes for their services. Yes, they support the local community by buying goods and services but the government is losing significant tax revenues. Unsure if establishments pay a prostitution tax.

I've been to Paco's by the airport several times and it's really not worth it. My friend was coming in to DR yesterday and I went to the airport to get him. Spirit was a little late and I decided to pop over to Paco's for a quickie, they had 4 girls, only one that was about a 6. They would not budge from 2k for short time. I wanted something so I caved. The girl was alright, asked for a massage, got a so so one (but this is not a massage parlor) asked for a BBBJ and got such an argument over it, she finally gave in, the BBBJ was actually quite good she took her time and a lot of variety in her style. I left drained. Parked at the airport walked in the door and my friend had just walked out, great timing.

I only go to Paco's out of convenience nothing more. If I had the time, I would have went to boca chica.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1461366]I've been to Paco's by the airport several times and it's really not worth it. My friend was coming in to DR yesterday and I went to the airport to get him. Spirit was a little late and I decided to pop over to Paco's for a quickie, they had 4 girls, only one that was about a 6. They would not budge from 2k for short time. I wanted something so I caved. The girl was alright, asked for a massage, got a so so one (but this is not a massage parlor) asked for a BBBJ and got such an argument over it, she finally gave in, the BBBJ was actually quite good she took her time and a lot of variety in her style. I left drained. Parked at the airport walked in the door and my friend had just walked out, great timing.

I only go to Paco's out of convenience nothing more. If I had the time, I would have went to boca chica.[/QUOTE]Wow to settle for a 6 at 2k for a short time- damn you horny ass. LOL thank Paco is off my- to do list!

take a look at this report from Leeds, England and thank your lucky stars for DR and Haitian chicas.

[blue]Picked a girl up on St Michael's Street. She was blonde, in a short black dress, good legs, boobs spilling out the top. She suggested that as it was late she wanted to go home, so we could go there and then she'd stay in. She said it was the wrong time of the month, so only oral was on offer (which was fine by me). She asked if I could buy her some tobacco out of her fee, so I stopped in a filling station. She wouldn't get out of the car, and asked me to go and buy it for her. When I got back in the car she was on her phone cursing and swearing at someone.

The phone call suddenly stopped and she sid she'd run out of credit on it. We stopped at a supermarket where she went to the cash machine, then inside to top her phone up. On the way again she was again swearing loudly down the phone at her ex, telling him off for "shagging prostitutes".

We got to her house, which (as always seems to be the way with hookers' homes) was very untidy. Went upstairs, lay on the bed with my trousers off and she began a pretty good BBBJ. Then her stomach gave a loud rumble, and another. She apologised and said that she had a bad tummy, due to a bad kebab she'd had earlier. Carried on with the BJ then off it rumbled again."Sorry" she said,"I need the toilet" and she went next door to the bathroom. She obviously didn't shut the door as I could hear her noisily and explosively emptying her bowels, with an accompanying extreme smell.

When she reappeared, I was up and pants back on. That episode had killed off any lust I may have had. [/blue]

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1462152]take a look at this report from Leeds, England and thank your lucky stars for DR and Haitian chicas.

When she reappeared, I was up and pants back on. That episode had killed off any lust I may have had. [/blue][/QUOTE]Wow, I thought I was the only one with bad bowels. Thanks for the great laugh frannie.

Radpoker

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1461369]Wow to settle for a 6 at 2k for a short time- damn you horny ass. LOL thank Paco is off my- to do list![/QUOTE]If you have the time to wait this guy can get you whatever shape form or fashion chica that you are looking for. I agree Paco's place's is not the cheapest game in town but he is cool and they are no head game's to be concerned about.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1461369]Wow to settle for a 6 at 2k for a short time- damn you horny ass. LOL thank Paco is off my- to do list![/QUOTE]I'm a pretty horny guy. Money is not the issue for me. I was in the area, had BJ on my mind and did not have time to some place else. I know of the casas in Boca Chica, but did not want to go so far and possibly miss my friend, as it was when I finished at Paco's and got back my buddy was just coming to the exit door of the airport.

Anyway, I'm having a function this Saturday and besides friends I have family over, some of them staying at my house. My live in Novia is treating them pretty well and I have hired help as well.

Last night, my novia was getting her hair done by a female family member of mine (ex hairdresser) and it was late, I had work to get up to work this morning. So around midnight I go to bed, and my novia is still in the living room playing with her hair.

She showers, gets into bed and starts to go to sleep. I wait like 15 minutes and then wake her ass up. I tell her, you make time to play with your hair you need to make sure you take time for me. I get the complaints that she's tired, etc. I say OK, tomorrow she can go to her parents house for the weekend and get her rest if she's so tired.

A few minutes later she comes to her senses, BJ, Sex then I go to sleep. Can't take their BS for a minute, reminded me of my ex wife. Little does she know, I'm going out tonight and leaving her ass home as punishment.

Based on you your report it is clear you are a real prize. I am sure you ex wife is not sitting home pining the loss of you ass. Jajajaja Like the song says whose making love to your old lady while you out. Think about it. To each his own. You sound like you think you own the girl. If your girl goes out and bare backs a few of the local chicos would serve you right. Not mad at you just saying' free the slaves'

[QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1462624]I'm a pretty horny guy. Money is not the issue for me. I was in the area, had BJ on my mind and did not have time to some place else. I know of the see.

As punishment.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1462675]Based on you your report it is clear you are a real prize. I am sure you ex wife is not sitting home pining the loss of you ass. Jajajaja Like the song says whose making love to your old lady while you out. Think about it. To each his own. You sound like you think you own the girl. If your girl goes out and bare backs a few of the local chicos would serve you right. Not mad at you just saying' free the slaves'[/QUOTE]You have become quite the "Cyber Thug" lately I have noticed!

Hey fellas,

I signed up for DC and getting bombarded with messages. My question is how to tell who's looking for what without.

Totally offending the unsuspecting chicas on there?

How forward are you guys with your early messages? Or do you search out or see certain clues in there profiles?

Thanks.

Heading to DR Sept 24 for ten days, flying into Santiago.

I have had some moderate success with this sight. To answer your questions it depends on my level of interest. For the most part I go 3 to 4 messages without much innuendo. Then I hit them with Si nos vemos cuánto tiempo podemos pasar juntos. ¿Toda la noche?

This will weed them out pretty quickly. A very small percentage 5% will act offended, they are not what you are looking for. 25% will act coy and basically say maybe it depends. A 50% will just say si. The remaining % probably will not answer.

With some usually the ones that have contacted me I send back yo busco sexo. Again 5 % will act offended and the remaining 95% will say yo tambien

Experience from day 1, scheduled 3 meetings 4pm. 6p & 8pm.

4pm showed at Pacos caught me with other girls I claimed they had just made themselves at home. She was one that had said maybe. Gave her a box of chocolates. Spent about 1 hour and she wanted to meet again and not at my hotel. I have not followed up.

6pm strange meeting girl had said she wanted to go to the beach to a resort. Good looking but when I suggested we go to my room. She said no.

8pm I was a no show. Could hold out any longer and took a girl from Conde. Mistake.

Day 2.

Went to La romana to see this girl that was going to come back to the santo domingo with me for 2 nights. In the meantime stopped in San pedro to hook up with 2 other girls. Could not get there numbers to work. The number they give you may not be good or they may not have any minutes. So I did not hook up with them.

In La Romano called this other girl from Dominican cupid. Must have weighted 80lbs soaking wet. Very cute. After about 1 minute suggested we go to a cabana and she said okay. Perfect little a cups and she was very good. Knew the cabana very well. After had me stop at a farmaica and she got one of the emergency birth control pills even though we had used protection.

Finally caught up with the girl that to go to the capital with me. She was beautiful. She said she could not go because of school but she would come tomorrow to the hotel on the bus. Refused money for the bus. Did not show the next day.

Day 3.

Appoints at 11, 3 5 7

11, & 5 did not show.

3 showed at 5 late. Very young, shy and kinda heavy with her mother. She had 4 sisters all with a different father. Her mother understood and encouraged the girl to go. Girl had no problem. Set up meeting for next day.

7 did not show.

Day 4

Appointments at 11, 3 5, 7.

11 & 3 did not show. 3 called and reschedule for next day. 5 showed and was more than advertised (she was over 1 hour late) expect this with the Dominicans.

When I ask her to go to the hotel for total la noche she said she had to call her sister to get her to keep the kid over night. Off we went. Great girl. I really like about the Dominican girls that stay over night is that in middle of the night they wake up and have no problem waking you up for sex. I will see her agin. She has been gone about 2 hours and has called me 3 times.

7 I was a no show.

Expect more than 1/2 to no show.

Expect some to change their mind after they meet.

Expect some to jump at the chance to sleep with you.

It would be dirty pool but maybe we should start a thread that listed the girls by name and our experience with them

Stoker you are one busy guy. You really put some time in. When I deal with cupid girls I keep them a few days if I like them.

Thanks for reporting. Very interesting to see how others use Cupid.

I use Cupid a lot as well, but I am most interested into the "small percentage" that would say no to sex when asked upfront as you do. End goal is to take them to bed, of course, but I like going through the heart. Even if it costs several dates and the mandatory "meet the family" dinner.

Actually for all nighters I usually find what I want on the streets of Sosua. Quite a few gems if you really take time to look, and are thorough in your screening. I've met a few that I am sure would have said no to paid sex only a few months earlier.

Plus I have this irresistable urge to be at my usual corner of the D'Latin bar at 11pm, looking at the ballet of girls & mongers while Mary (my usual waitress at Latin) piles up Presidente grande after Presidente grande.

Sammy.

[QUOTE=Stoker Star; 1467077]Experience from day 1, scheduled 3 meetings 4pm. 6p & 8pm.

4pm showed at Pacos caught me with other girls I claimed they had just made themselves at home. She was one that had said maybe. Gave her a box of chocolates. Spent about 1 hour and she wanted to meet again and not at my hotel. I have not followed up.

6pm strange meeting girl had said she wanted to go to the beach to a resort. Good looking but when I suggested we go to my room. She said no.

8pm I was a no show. Could hold out any longer and took a girl from Conde. Mistake.

Day 2.

Went to La romana to see this girl that was going to come back to the santo domingo with me for 2 nights. In the meantime stopped in San pedro to hook up with 2 other girls. Could not get there numbers to work. The number they give you may not be good or they may not have any minutes. So I did not hook up with them.

In La Romano called this other girl from Dominican cupid. Must have weighted 80lbs soaking wet. Very cute. After about 1 minute suggested we go to a cabana and she said okay. Perfect little a cups and she was very good. Knew the cabana very well. After had me stop at a farmaica and she got one of the emergency birth control pills even though we had used protection.

Finally caught up with the girl that to go to the capital with me. She was beautiful. She said she could not go because of school but she would come tomorrow to the hotel on the bus. Refused money for the bus. Did not show the next day.

Day 3.

Appoints at 11, 3 5 7

11, & 5 did not show.

3 showed at 5 late. Very young, shy and kinda heavy with her mother. She had 4 sisters all with a different father. Her mother understood and encouraged the girl to go. Girl had no problem. Set up meeting for next day.

7 did not show.

Day 4

Appointments at 11, 3 5, 7.

11 & 3 did not show. 3 called and reschedule for next day. 5 showed and was more than advertised (she was over 1 hour late) expect this with the Dominicans.

When I ask her to go to the hotel for total la noche she said she had to call her sister to get her to keep the kid over night. Off we went. Great girl. I really like about the Dominican girls that stay over night is that in middle of the night they wake up and have no problem waking you up for sex. I will see her agin. She has been gone about 2 hours and has called me 3 times.

7 I was a no show.

Expect more than 1/2 to no show.

Expect some to change their mind after they meet.

Expect some to jump at the chance to sleep with you.

It would be dirty pool but maybe we should start a thread that listed the girls by name and our experience with them[/QUOTE]

If I was looking for paid sex then I wouldn't waste my time doing it online. For me it is better to go to a place where hookers are and make a live choice. What if I go through all this trouble weeding out and making a date and driving from city to city just to find out at that the girl was not what I expected or my body was not ready for sex at that particular moment. Not to mention all the no shows that the original poster mentioned. I would rather use dating sites for what they were intended to be used for and hooker spots for what they were intended to be used for. I definitely wouldn't go to church with the intention of joining a poker game, but it looks like that is what many punters and hookers have done with the websites.

Stoker star, thanks for the excellent write up, it sounds like you put a lot of effort in but it paid off in the long run. I have messaged a few so far that seem interested in meeting but have not got to specific as of yet. Amazing amount if chica's on there, have to really wonder how many are real and not, to use a trendy verb,"catfish". Bad enough wasting time talking to chicas who may not pull a no show verses some dude that is posing or pimping out chicas.

I was thinking skype would be the best way to prove they are who they say.

I am going to set up some meetings from DC in Santiago area.

Most guys want the best of both worlds. I want good GFE with my sex. Sosua can provide great sport fucking but the GFE is spotty. I am not looking for a novia and I make that clear to my cupid girls so their feelings are not hurt. Most guys do not spend as much time as you in the game E. You can afford to be more selective in your choices. Most guys here do not speak the language and really want numbers. The more you play the more particular you become. There are guys who would not step foot in sosua and also guys who go no where else. Much of this has to do with age and culture. I am a hybrid I love both activities. I have had fun with SWs that becAME LONG TERM FRIENDS. In truth when you find a winner keep her in the loop.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1467638]If I was looking for paid sex then I wouldn't waste my time doing it online. For me it is better to go to a place where hookers are and make a live choice. What if I go through all this trouble weeding out and making a date and driving from city to city just to find out at that the girl was not what I expected or my body was not ready for sex at that particular moment. Not to mention all the no shows that the original poster mentioned. I would rather use dating sites for what they were intended to be used for and hooker spots for what they were intended to be used for. I definitely wouldn't go to church with the intention of joining a poker game, but it looks like that is what many punters and hookers have done with the websites.[/QUOTE]

They are closing casas but they have 60 year old men having sex with 13yr old girls. Taken from DR1. 13-year old pregnant with triplets.

The leading Dominican maternity hospital, La Altagracia, is managing the case of a 13-year old girl from San Jose de Ocoa who is pregnant with triplets, reportedly by a 60-year old man. Hospital director Dr. Victor Calderon says the girl is suffering from malnutrition and is being treated with vitamins. Once she is stable, she will be sent home. He said that 29% of the cases received at the hospital are of pregnant teenagers. The hospital has a specialized center where the teenagers also receive psychological assistance.

The Medina Administration recently issued Decree 264-13 that created an inter-institutional commission to coordinate and follow up on the implementation of the National Plan to Prevent Pregnancies in Teenagers that was launched in 2011. The commission members are the Vice President, the First Lady's Office, and the ministries of Women, Health, Education, Youth and Economy.

in meeting a very pleasant, slightly shy, young Haitian woman of 25, no kids, a couple of months in the DR and doesn't really know anyone in the DR, and speaks very little Spanish, only Kreyol and French, a bit overweight (some would say 'thick') , pretty face, lovely smile, nice skin, very sweet temperament, and no prostitution experience that I know of, please p.m. with an e-mail address and she can contact you on e-mail, Facebook, Skype, or whatever.

This is not for a hard core monger who wants a one nighter. Ideally she would like a long-term boyfriend who could help her go to college. Probably a long shot putting her info up here, but you never know.

Oh, she says she would like to meet someone single who has no kids, so I guess that rules out most readers of this.

Maybe someone can help me help a friend of mine out. I am trying to find a place for my friend to stay in Costambar, BB's is booked. I used to stay at Atlantic One across from the restaurant Solo Mio but I can't find a phone number or e-mail for them anywhere. Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1481204]Maybe someone can help me help a friend of mine out. I am trying to find a place for my friend to stay in Costambar, BB's is booked. I used to stay at Atlantic One across from the restaurant Solo Mio but I can't find a phone number or e-mail for them anywhere. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hotel Atlantic One.

Costambar, DomRep.

Tel. : (1809) 970 72 45.

Fax: (1809) 970 72 45.

EMail: residenceatlanticone@hotmail.com

[url]www.residenceatlanticone.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1481189]in meeting a very pleasant, slightly shy, young Haitian woman of 25, no kids, a couple of months in the DR and doesn't really know anyone in the DR, and speaks very little Spanish, only Kreyol and French, a bit overweight (some would say 'thick') , pretty face, lovely smile, nice skin, very sweet temperament, and no prostitution experience that I know of, please pm with an e-mail address and she can contact you on e-mail, Facebook, Skype, or whatever.

This is not for a hard core monger who wants a one nighter. Ideally she would like a long-term boyfriend who could help her go to college. Probably a long shot putting her info up here, but you never know.

Oh, she says she would like to meet someone single who has no kids, so I guess that rules out most readers of this.[/QUOTE]I don't have any photos to post, except this "selfie" that she took. It is not exactly a full body shot, but shows enough to indicate non-pro status and give you some idea of what you might be dealing with.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1482232]I don't have any photos to post, except this "selfie" that she took. It is not exactly a full body shot, but shows enough to indicate non-pro status and give you some idea of what you might be dealing with.[/QUOTE]"Mary Mary quite contrary, trim that pussy its so damn hairy, OH!"

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1482323]"Mary Mary quite contrary, trim that pussy its so damn hairy, OH!"[/QUOTE]I know a man who will do a good job free. It is his hobby. As Frannie says, it is an indicator she is probably not a puta. Lack of both English and Spanish would be another.

Hairy pussies don't faze me because that is easily remedied and it is rare for a haitiana to refuse the offer. But tattoos, piercings, dyed hair, etc, are a real slag alert.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1482362]I know a man who will do a good job free. It is his hobby. As Frannie says, it is an indicator she is probably not a puta. Lack of both English and Spanish would be another.

Hairy pussies don't faze me because that is easily remedied and it is rare for a haitiana to refuse the offer. But tattoos, piercings, dyed hair, etc, are a real slag alert.[/QUOTE]You are right about the tattoos, piercings, dyed hair etc being a alert but hell world wide the young people are doing it and they are not all bad. What are we suppose to do besides look for women over 40.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1482365]You are right about the tattoos, piercings, dyed hair etc being a alert but hell world wide the young people are doing it and they are not all bad. What are we suppose to do besides look for women over 40.[/QUOTE]I have slowed right up now because of health and finance but I must have had upwards of 500 women since first coming to the DR. Maybe less than a dozen had tattoos visible when dressed (and they were in my early days) , a dozen more had discreet little hidden ones, maybe less than five had body piercings, and none at all had dyed hair that I was aware of, but then I don't like Latin blondes and redheads and no-one down here wants to dye their hair black (unless it is going gray and I don't like older women either). Having spent a lot of time in Northern Europe I appreciate real blondes (Scandinavian or Slav). Latin blondes have got that tallow color which looks unhealthy to me.

Plenty of natural chicas (18 to 25) around here with (generally) unspoilt natures, but you won't find them on the strip in Sosua.

Could someone tell me what the equivalent of "quit playing" or "quit fucking around" would be in Spanish?

I am speaking in terms of as if a chica was giving you a very poor BJ and you know she is quite capable of doing a better job, and you want to tell her to "cut the bullshit" and suck you off like she does her novio (LOL).

Probably a very crude example, but just trying to put the original question I asked in context.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1483312]Could someone tell me what the equivalent of "quit playing" or "quit fucking around" would be in Spanish?

I am speaking in terms of as if a chica was giving you a very poor BJ and you know she is quite capable of doing a better job, and you want to tell her to "cut the bullshit" and suck you off like she does her novio (LOL).

Probably a very crude example, but just trying to put the original question I asked in context.[/QUOTE]Pare jugando, stop playing.

[QUOTE=Cherokee;1483327]Pare jugando, stop playing.[/QUOTE]Mamar tu novio asi?

[QUOTE=Cherokee;1483327]Pare jugando, stop playing.[/QUOTE]And for Haitians:

"Sispann ransè"

I'm going back to the DR in December, going to try Blackbeards for three days, then staying at Casa Cayena in Sosua for 9 days. Really looking forward to it. I'll give a report when I get back.

My Spanish is abysmal. Right now I'm brushing up on my basic greetings, light conversational stuff. But I need help with negotiating specifics with the chicas.

What I'm hoping to find is a list of phrases, specific to DR spanish, for negotiating what a monger wants. Examples would be asking for a blowjob without a condom, DATY, anal, deep french kissing, etc.

I already had a list like this before, but it was on my old computer and I lost it. If anyone has one, could they post it here, or link to it? I'd really appreciate it.

Henley

[QUOTE=Henley100; 1484106]I'm going back to the DR in December, going to try Blackbeards for three days, then staying at Casa Cayena in Sosua for 9 days. Really looking forward to it. I'll give a report when I get back.

My Spanish is abysmal. Right now I'm brushing up on my basic greetings, light conversational stuff. But I need help with negotiating specifics with the chicas.

What I'm hoping to find is a list of phrases, specific to DR spanish, for negotiating what a monger wants. Examples would be asking for a blowjob without a condom, DATY, anal, deep french kissing, etc.

I already had a list like this before, but it was on my old computer and I lost it. If anyone has one, could they post it here, or link to it? I'd really appreciate it.

Henley[/QUOTE]For where you mentioned you will be going: "Sucky sucky sin condon" and "anal" (in Spanish it sounds like "ah-nahl") will work just fine. Don't know what "eating pussy" is in Spanish. For kissing, just ask "besos?".

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1484237]For where you mentioned you will be going: "Sucky sucky sin condon" and "anal" (in Spanish it sounds like "ah-nahl") will work just fine. Don't know what "eating pussy" is in Spanish. For kissing, just ask "besos?".[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm pretty sure I can make myself understood with my very limited vocabulary I. E."besos con lengua" I think would roughly mean kissing with tongue, etc. I've just been trying to track down that list of phrases so I could be a little smoother and understandable than when I'm using my pigeon Spanish.

If someone has the list of phrases, that'd be great. I'd love to get my hands on it again. If not, that's cool. I don't want anyone spending time putting together a new list or anything.

Henley

I've been going thru tons of old posts and came up with some pretty good words and phrases that I thought may be helpful for the Spanish-challenged. Again, these are from previous posts that I've just copied. If reposting without credit given to original poster is frowned upon, I apologize. If the administrator wants to take it down because of this, I would certainly understand.

It's a cut and paste job, but I've cleaned it up a bit:

For the cab:

1. Me puede llevar (place) Can you take me.

2. Conoce este lugar Do you know this place.

3. Que tan lejos es (place) How far is this place.

4. Puede esperarme can you wait for me.

5. Que otro sitio conoces como este Do you know of any other place like this one.

For the girls.

1. Cuanto por la salida How much to get out.

2. El taxi esta incluido en el precio Is the cab incluido en el precio.

3. Me parece caro I think is to expensive.

4. Te puedo tomar fotos Can I take your picture.

5. Quieres tomar algo Do you want anything to drink.

6. Tienes una amiga que quiera venir Do you have a girlfriend that might want to come.

7. Te gustan las mujeres Do you like girls.

8. Me puedes dar tu telefono Can I have your phone. (most of them will)

9. Vete ya Leave now. (hey you never know)

10. No te voy a dar propina I will not give you a tip.

11. Si me gusta lo que haces te dare una buena propina If I like what you do I will give you a tip.

12. Quieres almorzar conmigo manana Would you like to have lunch with me tomorrow.

13. Volteate Turn around.

14. Para Stop.

15. Vamos Let's go.

1. Hi, what's your name?

1 hola, que es tu nombre?

2. You are beautiful.

2 eres linda, guapa.

3. My name is.

3 Mi nombre es.

4. I'm ____ years old.

4 Tengo ____ anos.

5. Can I buy you a beer / dinner?

5 Puedo comprarte una cerveza (in the D. R. Una fria) /cena.

6. Where is a good place to eat / drink?

6 Sabes un lugar de alta calidad para beber / comer?

7. I think I love you.

7 Pienso que te amo.

8. How much for a short time / long time?

8 Cuanto pides para 2 o 3 horas / toda la noche?

9. I want sex / BBBJ / BBBJCIM.

9 Quiero sexo / sexo oral sin preservatio / sexo oral con la leche en tu boca.

10. Ok. Let's go.

10 okay vamos.

11. That was nice. See you later?

11 Eso me gusto, hasta mas tarde.

1. Who, What, when, where, why. These translate to: Quiéand, qué, cuándo, donde, por qué.

2. Short time. All night. How Much. These are important. Poco tiempo. Toda la noche. Cuanto.

3. Money (Dinero). Fifty, one hundred, five hundred, one thousand. Translation is, cincuenta, cien, quinientos, mil.

4. Pussy = Toto. Ass = culo. Butt = Nalga. Titties = Tetas. Body = cuerpo. Face = cara. Pretty = Linda, hermosa, or bonita.

5. Suck me = chuparme. Bare back blow job = chuparme sin condom. Cum in mouth = Leche en tu boca.

Multiple Pops. Try "algunas veces" (ahl-goo-nas ve-ces) (several times)

(dos veces = two times)

Quiero hacer culito. I want to do anal.

El perrito. Doggie.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1481189]in meeting a very pleasant, slightly shy, young Haitian woman of 25, no kids, a couple of months in the DR and doesn't really know anyone in the DR, and speaks very little Spanish, only Kreyol and French, a bit overweight (some would say 'thick') , pretty face, lovely smile, nice skin, very sweet temperament, and no prostitution experience that I know of, please pm with an e-mail address and she can contact you on e-mail, Facebook, Skype, or whatever.

This is not for a hard core monger who wants a one nighter. Ideally she would like a long-term boyfriend who could help her go to college. Probably a long shot putting her info up here, but you never know.

Oh, she says she would like to meet someone single who has no kids, so I guess that rules out most readers of this.[/QUOTE]I would be interested to meet this girl, I don't have kids and I am single, can you send me a pm?

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1481189]Please [b]pm with an e-mail address[/b] and she can contact you on e-mail, Facebook, Skype, or whatever.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Moirick;1485346]I would be interested to meet this girl. [b]Can you send me a pm?[/b][/QUOTE]

Sorry, you failed the reading comprehension test.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1484773]You are beautiful. Eres guapa.[/QUOTE]Fair enough in most countries but in the DR this means "you are angry"

[QUOTE=Henley100;1484773]I think I love you. Pienso que te amo.[/QUOTE]Probably the most useful phrase here for people who monger using phrasebooks.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1484773]OK. Let's go. Okay vamos.[/QUOTE]I always say "vamanos" for "let's go". Although "vamos" literally means the same thing, in practice it is used more for "let's (do something)" or "we are going to (do something)".

[QUOTE=Henley100;1484773]Who, What, when, where, why. These translate to: Quiéand, qué, cuándo, donde, por qué.[/QUOTE]Jackson's crackpot auto correct has stabbed you in the back here.

For some of your entries the conditional or subjunctive would be more correct, but don't worry because Dominicans haven't got a clue how to use them either (nor have I in Spanish).

[QUOTE=Henley100; 1484773]I've been going thru tons of old posts and came up with some pretty good words and phrases that I thought may be helpful for the Spanish-challenged. Again, these are from previous posts that I've just copied. If reposting without credit given to original poster is frowned upon, I apologize. If the administrator wants to take it down because of this, I would certainly understand.

It's a cut and paste job, but I've cleaned it up a bit:

For the cab:

1. Me puede llevar (place) Can you take me.

2. Conoce este lugar Do you know this place.

3. Que tan lejos es (place) How far is this place.

4. Puede esperarme can you wait for me.

5. Que otro sitio conoces como este Do you know of any other place like this one.

For the girls.

1. Cuanto por la salida How much to get out.

2. El taxi esta incluido en el precio Is the cab incluido en el precio.

3. Me parece caro I think is to expensive.

4. Te puedo tomar fotos Can I take your picture.

5. Quieres tomar algo Do you want anything to drink.

6. Tienes una amiga que quiera venir Do you have a girlfriend that might want to come.

7. Te gustan las mujeres Do you like girls.

8. Me puedes dar tu telefono Can I have your phone. (most of them will)

9. Vete ya Leave now. (hey you never know)

10. No te voy a dar propina I will not give you a tip.

11. Si me gusta lo que haces te dare una buena propina If I like what you do I will give you a tip.

12. Quieres almorzar conmigo manana Would you like to have lunch with me tomorrow.

13. Volteate Turn around.

14. Para Stop.

15. Vamos Let's go.

1. Hi, what's your name?

1 hola, que es tu nombre?

2. You are beautiful.

2 eres linda, guapa.

3. My name is.

3 Mi nombre es.

4. I'm ____ years old.

4 Tengo ____ anos.

5. Can I buy you a beer / dinner?

5 Puedo comprarte una cerveza (in the D. R. Una fria) /cena.

6. Where is a good place to eat / drink?

6 Sabes un lugar de alta calidad para beber / comer?

7. I think I love you.

7 Pienso que te amo.

8. How much for a short time / long time?

8 Cuanto pides para 2 o 3 horas / toda la noche?

9. I want sex / BBBJ / BBBJCIM.

9 Quiero sexo / sexo oral sin preservatio / sexo oral con la leche en tu boca.

10. Ok. Let's go.

10 okay vamos.

11. That was nice. See you later?

11 Eso me gusto, hasta mas tarde.

1. Who, What, when, where, why. These translate to: Quiéand, qué, cuándo, donde, por qué.

2. Short time. All night. How Much. These are important. Poco tiempo. Toda la noche. Cuanto.

3. Money (Dinero). Fifty, one hundred, five hundred, one thousand. Translation is, cincuenta, cien, quinientos, mil.

4. Pussy = Toto. Ass = culo. Butt = Nalga. Titties = Tetas. Body = cuerpo. Face = cara. Pretty = Linda, hermosa, or bonita.

5. Suck me = chuparme. Bare back blow job = chuparme sin condom. Cum in mouth = Leche en tu boca.

Multiple Pops. Try "algunas veces" (ahl-goo-nas ve-ces) (several times)

(dos veces = two times)

Quiero hacer culito. I want to do anal.

El perrito. Doggie.[/QUOTE]Most of these are wrong, or just aren't what Dominicans would say, though probably you would be understood in most cases. For example Hola, que es tu nombre? Would be rarely heard here as they say "cual es tu nombre" or "como te llamas?"

[QUOTE=Frannie;1485651]Most of these are wrong, or just aren't what Dominicans would say, though probably you would be understood in most cases. For example Hola, que es tu nombre? Would be rarely heard here as they say "cual es tu nombre" or "como te llamas?"[/QUOTE]Oh well, I tried. Everything I pulled came right out of the DR forums. Nevertheless, as a guy taking a trip rather then setting up residency, so they'll work for me.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1485750]Oh well, I tried. Everything I pulled came right out of the DR forums. Nevertheless, as a guy taking a trip rather then setting up residency, so they'll work for me.[/QUOTE]Oh you will do fine, but just remember that a lot of the taxi drivers and motoconcho drivers are illiterate, so they may not understand perfectly good Spanish either. Dominican Spanish tends to be very basic and concrete.

I have a friend who lives here and doesn't speak a word of Spanish, but he gets on fine. He just addresses people in English and they seem to understand the gist of what he is saying. Occasionally he calls me on the phone if he is in a pharmacy and wants me to say the name of the medication required to the pharmacist, but he does fine with the ladies.

Bottom line is that it is already understood that you want sex and they want money. The rest is small talk. I still think it is true that if you can converse in Spanish you will get better sex and more of a girlfriend thing, and be able to avoid more bad sex situations, but if you are just coming for a short time and have no intention of learning Spanish for the long term, then you will do fine with English and a few words of Spanish. Hell, there are people here who speak nothing but Russian.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1485750]Oh well, I tried. Everything I pulled came right out of the DR forums. Nevertheless, as a guy taking a trip rather then setting up residency, so they'll work for me.[/QUOTE]Today I wanted to buy a pineapple, so I told the motoconcho driver to stop by the "fruteria". He continued up the highway and pulled up at the "ferreteria*". Had I wanted to buy a ferret, I would have said so. Probably my bad as I should have said "fluteria". This shows why standard Spanish does not work.

* Actually mean "ironmongers" in Spanish.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1487405]Today I wanted to buy a pineapple, so I told the motoconcho driver to stop by the "fruteria". He continued up the highway and pulled up at the "ferreteria*". Had I wanted to buy a ferret, I would have said so. Probably my bad as I should have said "fluteria". This shows why standard Spanish does not work.

* Actually mean "ironmongers" in Spanish.[/QUOTE]What the fuck Frannie. Are you still trying to use google to do translations? Did you actually see a ferret at this ferreteria? If so, then I would be curious to ask when was the last time you saw animals in a Home Depot? A ferret at a ferreteria? The root ferrous is from the Latin ferrum meaning iron. Hence, ferreteria means hardware store. And it could have been your accent and not necesarrily the driver's literacy that is causing the misunderstandings.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1487432]What the fuck Frannie. Are you still trying to use google to do translations? Did you actually see a ferret at this ferreteria? If so, then I would be curious to ask when was the last time you saw animals in a Home Depot? A ferret at a ferreteria? The root ferrous is from the Latin ferrum meaning iron. Hence, ferreteria means hardware store. And it could have been your accent and not necesarrily the driver's literacy that is causing the misunderstandings.[/QUOTE]Don't be such a retard. Of course I know what ferreteria means. I was just making the point that if you don't say "fluteria" for "fruteria" you might end up at a scrapyard.

How much does a taxi cost to el conde from sdq? My taxi guy changed his number and I don't want to use my other guy. I always had a taxi wating for me and never had to take one from the airport before. Any info would be appreciated

Hello gents,

It seems the more I travel the more I want to try new destinations. Colombia, Cuba, Kenya, Transnistria, Germany and now the more I look at Dominicanas photos the more I realize this is where I need to go next; p

I can do all the mongering on my own. It's the same anywhere you go!

I would like your advice on where are the good beach townS where they are not typically known for mongering or not as heavily mongered like Sousa?

And since I have no doubt I'll be there for a couple of months, what's the local economics like? Rent, a sample of actual salaries, hiring a house maid, light bill, gym fees. Etc.

I am fluent in Spanish, love beach towns, and college campuses. LOL

Thanking you in advance.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1508906]Transnistria[/QUOTE]Now that trip I would like to read about.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1508906]I would like your advice on where are the good beach towns where they are not typically known for mongering or not as heavily mongered like Sosua?[/QUOTE]There are only two particularly known for prostitution (Sosua and Boca Chica) so take your pick from the rest. And if you have fluent Spanish, P4P will be available anywhere, unless the place is tiny. You will just have to be more discreet about it than you would in the two places named. Avoid Punta Cana and Bavaro, otherwise the DR is your oyster.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1508906]And since I have no doubt I'll be there for a couple of months, what's the local economics like? Rent, a sample of actual salaries, hiring a house maid, light bill, gym fees. Etc.[/QUOTE]You would be better off asking those questions on DR1 (but don't flaunt the mongering angle there). There is masses of information there already so read up first before asking specific questions.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1508906]college campuses[/QUOTE]There are a couple of college campuses in Puerto Plata where younger and socially acceptable mongers have had great success in the past. I wouldn't call it a beach town, though. The best beaches are a bit outside the city (Cofresi for example is on the same side of the city as the two campuses) but there is more non-working girl nightlife in the city than in Sosua so it might interest you.

CB,

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the mentioning of DR1. Just registered in their website and looks like there is a trove of info to be mined.

I wrote a nice candid (no hold backs) detailed report about Transnistria within the Moldova board. It should give you a great idea what to expect. I only wish I lived closer like and Europe. Pm me if you have any Qs.

What do think of these towns?

La Romana.

Cibau.

Santiago.

Barbacua.

A bushy pussy don't bother me neither. LOL

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1509180]CB,

What do think of these towns?

La Romana.

Cibau.

Santiago.

Barbacua.[/QUOTE]Cibao is not a town, it's a geographical area. Santiago is the second city (around 800, 000 pop) and it is inland. Never heard of Barbacua. Do you mean Jarabacoa? It is a picturesque and more affluent town and area but, again, inland. La Romana is a small city on the coast with wealthy gringo enclaves. Read up the appropriate section.

I think the first thing you need to do is spend some time with a map of the DR and decide what your priorities are. I thought your priority was beach towns with or near college campuses?

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1509180]A bushy pussy don't bother me neither.[/QUOTE]Does that mean you prefer hairy pussies? The less sophisticated and more "innocent" the girl, the less likely to shave. So in Sosua most putas shave. Out in the campo few girls shave. For the same reasons haitianas are less likely to shave than dominicanas.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1509280]Does that mean you prefer hairy pussies? The less sophisticated and more "innocent" the girl, the less likely to shave. So in Sosua most putas shave. Out in the campo few girls shave.[/QUOTE]I know plenty of innocent non-hooker campo women and they all shave. Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever been with a Dominicana who is not clean shaven. It's too hot down here to have a hairy potter. By the way, stop feeding the trolls.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1509310]I know plenty of innocent non-hooker campo women and they all shave. Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever been with a Dominicana who is not clean shaven. It's too hot down here to have a hairy potter.[/QUOTE]I am not contradicting you because I know you have a lot wider experience than me, but my experience has often been different. Maybe things have changed a bit in the five years since I mongered in the deepest campo, or maybe your chicas were a bit older and had learned a bit more.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1509310]By the way, stop feeding the trolls.[/QUOTE]His second post was a bit silly, but I have now read some of his reports and they are interesting and sound genuine, so he is not a troll. And he is not a braggart or racist either, so he is welcome here as far as I am concerned.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1509310]I know plenty of innocent non-hooker campo women and they all shave. Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever been with a Dominicana who is not clean shaven. It's too hot down here to have a hairy potter. By the way, stop feeding the trolls.[/QUOTE]In the campo areas I have been in an innocent woman wouldn't think of spending money on something like a razor, they simply can't afford it, if she shaves she is selling her pussy.

Hi guys,

Planning a 4 week rental car tour through whole DR and have a question. Is it safe to do that?

For sure I have experience doing this in other countries (e. G. Cuba and Costa Rica) and I speak basic Spanish.

Having the standards in mind (no gold chains around the neck, no high end cameras, no typical tourist behavior.) , can this be fun or is it just too dangerous?

Planning to do this in April or June. If too unsafe I'll do it in Cuba again where I found lots of nice girls being happy to join me for some trips to beaches by car or just driving around for sightseeing.

Thanks,

Hotzo

[QUOTE=Hotzo; 1513464]Planning a 4 week rental car tour through whole DR and have a question. Is it safe to do that?

Can this be fun or is it just too dangerous?[/QUOTE]Not [u]my[/u] idea of fun, but certainly not dangerous provided you use normal common sense.

[QUOTE=Hotzo; 1513464]Hi guys,

Planning a 4 week rental car tour through whole DR and have a question. Is it safe to do that?

For sure I have experience doing this in other countries (e. G. Cuba and Costa Rica) and I speak basic Spanish.

Having the standards in mind (no gold chains around the neck, no high end cameras, no typical tourist behavior.) , can this be fun or is it just too dangerous?

Planning to do this in April or June. If too unsafe I'll do it in Cuba again where I found lots of nice girls being happy to join me for some trips to beaches by car or just driving around for sightseeing.

Thanks,

Hotzo[/QUOTE]When I used to go to DR a while ago I usually stayed 7 nights in Sosua. Rented a car always.

Tips,

1. Troll through rental sites to get a good deal.

2. Get full insurance when you pick up the car. Do not rely on pre-paid insurance or insurance through credit card. These insurances take forever to pay. If there is a serious damage they will not let you leave the country till the damage is paid.

3. Local people are very helpful and generally will not vandalize your car. It is ok to pick up girls who sometimes are waiting for the bus. I have done that.

4. If you have a local girl touring with you it is better. But I have found that I can pick girls up anywhere rather than stuck with one girl.

5. Roads are generally in good condition. I would avoid night time long distance driving mainly because if you get stuck no help will arrive till next day.

6. You can stop at small towns and go to local eateries or bars. They will treat you with respect as long as you do not drink too much and cause a problem. Robberies happen only at nightime at isolated bad neighbourhoods. If you look Spanish they will never bother you.

7. Maps are accurate only of major roads. Make sure you have a local mobile phone.

Good luck and have fun!

[QUOTE=Hotzo; 1513464]Hi guys,

Planning a 4 week rental car tour through whole DR and have a question. Is it safe to do that?[/QUOTE]Sounds like fun! 4 weeks is a long time and I might get tired driving that long but with apposite breaks, it might be a grand plan.

Sammon and Charles Pooter have valid points. Here are my thoughts based on personal driving experiences.

A) Do not rent a car. Rent a SUV instead, with high ground clearance. I drove a car from Santiago to San jose de las matas to Sabaneta last August and the road runs through mountains and most of it was washed away by rain, often leaving large rocks when the road exists. I had a car and it scared the Jesus out of me. As I was worried that I might damage the car and get stuck in the middle of nowhere and I was alone in those tracts. Indeed it needed focusing more on the road and I could not enjoy the beauty of the surroundings. I saw locals driving their SUVs on those lonely tracts without worrying and understood why there is such a preponderance of such vehicles there.

B) The autopistas I have done are generally good but you need to find out about road conditions of the secondary roads and choose alternatives when appropriate. I found out about bad roads when it was late to look for alternatives. In general, rains are bad for the road as everywhere but because there is poor or no maintenance of the secondary roads (especially in mountainous areas) you need to be more vigilant if you take those. On the other hand, secondary roads are more fun, compared to autopistas.

S) On at least one occasion, the local young people helped me. I was coming back to hotel after dinner (in sabaneta) and in a dark spot my car hit rocks used I presume, to cover (or warn off drivers?) a large hole on the road. The car would not move and there were at least 8-9 young men were around and without even my asking, heaved and lifted the car up to remove the rock. I cannot tell you how pleased I was and they did it out of goodness as young people do. I paid them some money of course. In general night time driving is not a good idea. Because of poor lighting including the highways but I have done it when I need to. Better not mix drinking and driving under those conditions.

D) I got lucky several times during the 3 days excursion. Well, on one occasion, I had to actually work hard but it was fun too for it could have gone either way and for some reason, it was a hit on that occasion. This was in Dajabon. With a chick of the local university. I actually walked with her inside the Uni to figure out if she could skip a class etc. And I had recounted the story in greater detail in a trip report here.

Have fun!

There is very good bus service to every where in the DR. Having a car that long increases the odds of something happening. SD is a horrible place to drive and I would not reccomend having a car there. The North coast is easy to get around.

[QUOTE=Hotzo; 1513464]Hi guys,

Planning a 4 week rental car tour through whole DR and have a question. Is it safe to do that?

For sure I have experience doing this in other countries (e. G. Cuba and Costa Rica) and I speak basic Spanish.

Having the standards in mind (no gold chains around the neck, no high end cameras, no typical tourist behavior.) , can this be fun or is it just too dangerous?

Planning to do this in April or June. If too unsafe I'll do it in Cuba again where I found lots of nice girls being happy to join me for some trips to beaches by car or just driving around for sightseeing.

Thanks,

Hotzo[/QUOTE]

CP,

Thanks a million for that DR1 site you recommended. One thing surprised me there was the cost of electricity and blackouts time! Not even when I lived in Cuba did I recall a blackout as bad as the ones mentioned in DR1. I guess nowhere is perfect, cause when I go to Cuba I bring extra tp. LOL.

The towns I mentioned were recommended to me by a fellow volunteer I met once a couple of yrs ago and they were his experiences. He recommended them based on friendliness of people and maybe beauty of the native women there. I probably should've opened a map first and looked them up. I am mainly interested in beach towns.

Thanks for reading my reports. I used to post on another forum and there I made a nice report on Cuba.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1509280]Cibao is not a town, it's a geographical area. Santiago is the second city (around 800, 000 pop) and it is inland. Never heard of Barbacua. Do you mean Jarabacoa? It is a picturesque and more affluent town and area but, again, inland. La Romana is a small city on the coast with wealthy gringo enclaves. Read up the appropriate section.

I think the first thing you need to do is spend some time with a map of the DR and decide what your priorities are. I thought your priority was beach towns with or near college campuses?

Does that mean you prefer hairy pussies? The less sophisticated and more "innocent" the girl, the less likely to shave. So in Sosua most putas shave. Out in the campo few girls shave. For the same reasons haitianas are less likely to shave than dominicanas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1513632]Better not mix drinking and driving under those conditions.[/QUOTE]Better not mix drinking and driving under any conditions.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1513953]Thanks a million for that DR1 site you recommended. One thing surprised me there was the cost of electricity and blackouts time! Not even when I lived in Cuba did I recall a blackout as bad as the ones mentioned in DR1.[/QUOTE]Everyday at my girlfriend's house the electricity and water go off at around 0630 and comes back on at 1800 or later. Fortunate that I only have to stay there 2 or 3 days at a time because I could not put up with that shit living there.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1513959]Better not mix drinking and driving under any conditions.[/QUOTE]I agree but I have been guilty of that in the DR. I do not drink anything but a beer and on one occasion, I was driving back from Montecristi around late in the day and because of the heat, bought a beer at a carwash. As luck would have it, right after I left the place, a cop flagged me down, I had the just opened bottle sitting right next to me and I was shitting bricks. The cop did not even blink! Phew!

Hi there,

Thanks a lot for your info. So as I never drink and drive (it's OR in my case) , I'm not worried about quality of streets or lights as I have this experience from Cuba and I will rent a SUV 4wd with European full insurance for car and accidents and for sure I speak a little bit of Spanish I will go for a car rental. Easy to visit everything, having 4 weeks in total and allows to give some chicas a free ride which they may allow me also.

Happy new year,

Hotzo

[QUOTE=Hotzo; 1514185]. And allows to give some chicas a free ride which they may allow me also.

Happy new year,

Hotzo[/QUOTE]Good line. Yes, in exchange for a free ride, many will allow you a ride too but not free; however it is always good if you treat her / them well! For me, the happenstance of getting lucky without having planned is the best kick, when on the road!

I will be coming in for a week, and would like to get to Bonao, and other towns along the coast and see other places, and meet less experienced girls. My Spanish is passable, but not perfect (especially their version of Spanish). Should I go solo and rent a car, or hire a guide?

Thanks

[QUOTE=MattInNorfolk; 1514971]I will be coming in for a week, and would like to get to Bonao, and other towns along the coast and see other places, and meet less experienced girls. My Spanish is passable, but not perfect (especially their version of Spanish). Should I go solo and rent a car, or hire a guide?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Rent a car, get a map, follow the road signs, and use the gps on your smartphone. Bonão is not the countryside though, it's a town. And I especially don't think the women there are "less experienced" depending on your meaning. They are people you know. It's not like you going to a new land that has women who have never seen men before.

Thanks on the car idea, so I can give them a ride. I just meant less touristy areas and nothing offensive, and I realize they are people and have seen people before.

Thanks for reminding me though!

[QUOTE=MattInNorfolk; 1515117]Thanks on the car idea, so I can give them a ride. I just meant less touristy areas and nothing offensive, and I realize they are people and have seen people before.

Thanks for reminding me though![/QUOTE]It really is less touristy. So if you are not going there to see someone you already know then you may end up considering the evolution a total waste of time. But if you continue south toward Santo Domingo then there will be hookers on the side of the road right past the Bonão exit.

[QUOTE=MattInNorfolk; 1515117]Thanks on the car idea, so I can give them a ride. I just meant less touristy areas and nothing offensive, and I realize they are people and have seen people before.

Thanks for reminding me though![/QUOTE]Mr. Enternational is right. Bonao is a large town. Might be 4th. (after the Capital, Santiago and San Francisco de Macoris) in the nation. With a large supermarket (La sirena) and a University. Right in front. It is easier with an already arranged hook up. Most carry blackberry etc there. This is not to say, you might not get lucky but it is a lot harder especially if you are under a time crunch. The next town on the way to Santo Domingo is Piedra Blanca (has a nice stream there). There is a bar at the traffic light intersection there on the highway. El ciringuito. You might get lucky there.

On that note, I keep hearing about this elusive campo women. As described by the likes of Charles Pooter, who even stated they are unshaven. Would be nice to pick up such a country belle! On that note and along the lines of Mr Enternational's thinking, it must have been nice to be a seaman on the Bounty, heck even Gauguin had a great time centuries later. LOL!

E you never cease to amaze me. You are DR google.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1515201]It really is less touristy. So if you are not going there to see someone you already know then you may end up considering the evolution a total waste of time. But if you continue south toward Santo Domingo then there will be hookers on the side of the road right past the Bonão exit.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Apart from Dominicanas and Haitians, are there any other nationalities available for P4P in the DR? I'm not talking of high-end hookers from E. Eur. Or the US, but maybe Jamaicans, Guyanese, or Colombians, Venezuelans, etc.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1483312]Could someone tell me what the equivalent of "quit playing" or "quit fucking around" would be in Spanish?

I am speaking in terms of as if a chica was giving you a very poor BJ and you know she is quite capable of doing a better job, and you want to tell her to "cut the bullshit" and suck you off like she does her novio (LOL).

Probably a very crude example, but just trying to put the original question I asked in context.[/QUOTE]No me jodas . Don't fuck with me. Or no joda.

Commonly used among native speakers, usually friends with a friendly tone of voice and a laugh, but with a stranger and a sterner tone of voice it's a very direct and aggressive way to address the situation.

I would only recommend it as the last verbal warning before throwing her out.

[QUOTE=BusyBunny; 1518247]Hi,

Apart from Dominicanas and Haitians, are there any other nationalities available for P4P in the DR? I'm not talking of high-end hookers from E. Eur. Or the US, but maybe Jamaicans, Guyanese, or Colombians, Venezuelans, etc.[/QUOTE]You need to go to Costa Rica. They have girls from other central and south American girls.

I have only seen and been with DR and HAITI girls. High end sex resorts had european and other girls on their website. Do not know if they are still open or if they have those girls.

I've gotten several PM's asking about info on apartments as a result of mentioning them in my semi-recent report on Santo Domingo. I am far from an expert and any input would be helpful. I only rented apartments in SD and Sosua, both good experiences which resulted in saving money.

On both occasions, I used TripAdvisor. TA owns FlipKey, and that's what I used. In Santo Domingo, I rented an extremely spacious apartment in Gascue. 1000+ square feet, nice area near the Malecon and the historic district. It was a gated complex that seemed to consist of mostly expats, though it was mostly empty when I was there. There's parking and a security guard, though no problems having visitors. It was a tad cheaper than a hotel, but I felt there was a lot more freedom. It was $69 / night. If that was the only fee, it would be great, but add on a bunch of stupid add on fees, like $25 clean up fee and an application fee. Plus, you pay electric. While there was no 28% (?) tax, the bullshit fees were kind of a trade off.

In Sosua, the fees weren't nearly as onerous and the apartment was cheaper. Also they had a great swimming pool.

Take care when using Flipkey. Take the reviews with a grain of salt. For example, I became friendly with the agent for the apartment in Gascue. I told him I was going to give it 4 stars, not 5. It didn't merit 5 stars and I wasn't going to bullshit. The only reason I told him beforehand was I want to be able to rent that apartment again. He asked me not to post the review if I wasn't going to give it 5 stars. So, these reviews can be manipulated.

I found that by talking directly to the agent (or owner) is a good way to get a feel for what to expect. The agent for the apartment in Sosua came recommended so that was a no brainer. The apartment was fantastic. The only problem was it was incredibly hot in Sosua at the time and there was only 1 AC, not enough. Otherwise, it was a fantastic deal.

As mentioned by another member, there are many rental sites out there and one shouldn't be confined to Flipkey. For example, the other member's examples, are airnb, northbeachmanagement dot com, bestsosuarealestate dot com and apartments dot com.

My guess is that apartment rentals are only prevalent in the bigger cities / towns and tourist areas.

[QUOTE=Jooks;1518627]My guess is that apartment rentals are only prevalent in the bigger cities / towns and tourist areas.[/QUOTE]I've rented an apartment in Cabarete many times and almost only in Cabarete Palm Beach Condos (link below). They are privately owned mostly by foreigners and rented when not used by the owners. In fact I was negotiating to buy one at one time. For a short term stay they are an exceptional value as they are spectacular (by DR standards) though not the cheapest digs you'll find, but right on the beach with parking and security and GF. Great location right behind the bakery in the center of town. All units are good but the top floor "penthouses" are really great. Again, not the cheapest but for longer stays the owners will negotiate prices.

I have also used VRBO a few times but usually farther out towards Gaspar Hernandez with good results. Some interesting typicos down there as well.

[url]www.cabaretecondos.com[/url]

I want to take my Dominicana to a resort for the weekend. Any recommendations on a seaside resort close to Santo Domingo?

Showdown

Hey guys,

I can not remember where on the ISG board I read about latinamericancupid. Com as a place to find amateurs, but I have spent some time on the site, and the Dominicans are all extremely aggressive. Has anyone else ever tried to exploit the site to meet up with Dominicans?

I have experience in other countries such as Peru, and Colombia. I met with several amateurs who were not difficult to get back to the hotel room. Not sure about why the Dominicans are so aggressive seeking out guys on the site, as I've never been there, but maybe someone has some past experience they could share?

[QUOTE=MattInNorfolk; 1514971]I will be coming in for a week, and would like to get to Bonao, and other towns along the coast and see other places, and meet less experienced girls. My Spanish is passable, but not perfect (especially their version of Spanish). Should I go solo and rent a car, or hire a guide?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Even if you do hire a guide more than likely he or she will not even know how to get to the different parts of the DR. Tourist have been way more places than most Dominicans. One has to just get out there and go. Most times asking directions from locals can fuck you up more than you were before you ask. The locals usually only know the way that the public vans / trucks / motors go and sometimes it has been years since the people you ask have even went any where.

If you have someone that you can get along with and don't mind spending your money on them it is nice to have someone with you.

Hi Guys,

I will be moving to DR for retirement this year. Just wanted to know what is my best plan for cell phone there. What type of phone

Should I buy here and what is best cell phone plan to buy there.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Amigo of King Kong

[QUOTE=Showdown; 1518684]I want to take my Dominicana to a resort for the weekend. Any recommendations on a seaside resort close to Santo Domingo?

Showdown[/QUOTE]If you trust your Dominicana, Dominican nationals get a big discount for stay in AI. She can book and take you there.

[QUOTE=Colby Seven; 1524496]Hey guys,

I can not remember where on the ISG board I read about latinamericancupid. Com as a place to find amateurs, but I have spent some time on the site, and the Dominicans are all extremely aggressive. Has anyone else ever tried to exploit the site to meet up with Dominicans?

I have experience in other countries such as Peru, and Colombia. I met with several amateurs who were not difficult to get back to the hotel room. Not sure about why the Dominicans are so aggressive seeking out guys on the site, as I've never been there, but maybe someone has some past experience they could share?[/QUOTE]I've met some nice girls on the Dominican Cupid Website but it takes time and patience along with some Spanish to be successful. I have a sweetheart I spent 6 nights with on my last trip and two new ones lined up to meet when I return next month. The women on this site are aggressive as they want to meet a gringo to spend money on them. I make it very clear what my intentions are before meeting these girls. I tell them I'm in the DR on vacation, not looking for a wife or serious relationship. This is where some of the girls will immediately drop out. I also tell them that I will help them with money if we elect to spend a night together. I hope this helps.

[quote=sammon;1524890]if you trust your dominicana, dominican nationals get a big discount for stay in ai. she can book and take you there.[/quote]one of the best places that i have ever been is saona island. they filmed pirates of the caribbean and a blue lagoon movie there. it is not a resort. it is a day trip from punta cana. my girlfriend took me there for free last month. a client of where she works owns one of the tour companies so we got hooked up.

the way it works: a minibus picks you up from your hotel and takes you to bayahibe. (she lives in higuey so we drove to bayahibe from home.) from there you take a speedboat a few yards out into the water and transfer to a catamaran. then it is about an hour and a half on the catamaran to saona island. while on the catamaran there is music, dancing, free rum and coke (no ice unfortunately). when you get close to the island you transfer back onto a speedboat which takes you to the shore. you relax there for a few hours and they provide an all-you-can-eat buffet style lunch. it was damn good too. at 3pm we had to load back onto the speedboat and it took us to the natural swimming pool which is also a breeding ground for starfish. it was 12 sqkm and in the middle of the ocean. we stopped and jumped out of the boats to walk around, swim, and drink more. then it was back to bayahibe in the speedboats.

at the end they pass around a jar for tips. i gave them 500 pesos. my girl asked why i gave so much. i said shit, we came here and got all this for free. the bigger the discount, the bigger the tip. i think the regular price is around $100/person for the day.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpysddylyy4[/url]

[url]https://www.google.com/search?q=saona+piscina+natural&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbo=you&source=univ&sa=x&ei=fuznuooib46vsqtqiogicq&ved=0ccqqsaq[/url]

I too have had great success with Dominican Cupid. I use a similar approach. When it comes to money I never indicate I will pay. I ask what gift they would like me to bring them, I will buy then perfumes and lotions that are very hard to get in the Dr. Depending on how much time I am planning determines the amount I will pay for gifts. I have time to cultivate the relationship prior to getting there. So when we meet we are comfortable with one another. It makes for very hot sex. I have banged every Cupid girl I met with.

QUOTE=Surfer500; 1524915]I've met some nice girls on the Dominican Cupid Website but it takes time and patience along with some Spanish to be successful. I have a sweetheart I spent 6 nights with on my last trip and two new ones lined up to meet when I return next month. The women on this site are aggressive as they want to meet a gringo to spend money on them. I make it very clear what my intentions are before meeting these girls. I tell them I'm in the DR on vacation, not looking for a wife or serious relationship. This is where some of the girls will immediately drop out. I also tell them that I will help them with money if we elect to spend a night together. I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1525045]I too have had great success with Dominican Cupid. I use a similar approach. When it comes to money I never indicate I will pay. I ask what gift they would like me to bring them, I will buy then perfumes and lotions that are very hard to get in the Dr. Depending on how much time I am planning determines the amount I will pay for gifts. I have time to cultivate the relationship prior to getting there. So when we meet we are comfortable with one another. It makes for very hot sex. I have banged every Cupid girl I met with.

QUOTE=Surfer500; 1524915]I've met some nice girls on the Dominican Cupid Website but it takes time and patience along with some Spanish to be successful. I have a sweetheart I spent 6 nights with on my last trip and two new ones lined up to meet when I return next month. The women on this site are aggressive as they want to meet a gringo to spend money on them. I make it very clear what my intentions are before meeting these girls. I tell them I'm in the DR on vacation, not looking for a wife or serious relationship. This is where some of the girls will immediately drop out. I also tell them that I will help them with money if we elect to spend a night together. I hope this helps.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Count me in this number! Dominican Cupid is the shit! I met a girl who came to see me from Sabaneta. She couldn't speak a lick of English, but gave me the best session since I been in the DR. She is a keeper and on my top 3 list. DC gives me so many options I can't keep up with all the chicas coming at me. It real gives me more options of places and chicas to explore. It beat Tagged hands down and Tagged is free to chat.

[QUOTE=

At the end they pass around a jar for tips. I gave them 500 pesos. My girl asked why I gave so much. I said shit, we came here and got all this for free. The bigger the discount, the bigger the tip. I think the regular price is around $100 / person for the day.

Great minds think alike.

Grownman1, Surfer500, and Oldkool: Bravo!

That was excellent info on DC especially for first time mongers. It oils up the mongering machinery to get it going per say. And it's a great backup if your having a rough day hunting.

While I've never been to the DR, I have used another site for my very first trip to Cuba 4yrs ago and it was a HUGE success. I used a FREE site called CyberCupido and ALLL but one girl accepted the sex. And I can say with confidence from experience that 99% were looking for mutual benefits and 1% serious about a relationship. And of course within that 99% ran the whole gamut of women from hardened jineteras to small town very young ladies wanting to wet their feet in the sex tourism for the first time.

I would like you and others to share their experiences with these sites and give some breakdown of the type of females one would encounter. And also the giographical differences with the women.

Also, please explain the "aggressive" nature of the girls everyone talks about. Are they aggressive in selling their services? Or aggressive in wanting a real relationship?

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1525091]Grownman1, Surfer500, and Oldkool: Bravo!

I would like you and others to share their experiences with these sites and give some breakdown of the type of females one would encounter. And also the giographical differences with the women.

Also, please explain the "aggressive" nature of the girls everyone talks about. Are they aggressive in selling their services? Or aggressive in wanting a real relationship?[/QUOTE]What you are asking would be difficult for me to answer relative to other site (s). As far as what type of female, everything from white to black and thick and thin. You need to visit the Dominican Cupid dating site as you can search for women over the entire country and the rest of the world if you want to.

As far as the aggressive question, they are not selling any services on this site as it is for "dating", etc. What I do is find out if they are open to an "arrangement" which has worked for me and my Spanish is limited. Some of these girls want a "real relationship", a night in shining armor to take them out of poverty, but short of that they also need money to get by hence they are aggressive in my opinion. If your fluent in Spanish you will do well in setting up meetings, but it takes time to correspond and build a rapport with the women. I cannot predict how you will do with these women once you meet them in person. The other guys on this Site as they have told you are doing well at it and their approach to handle these women is working for them. I'm going to modify my approach with these women now learning what has worked for Grownman and Old Kool. I hope this helps.

I have 2 cupid girls with almost 3 years of history. One is a total non pro. She has a very lousy job working 6 days a week making 40 US a week. At first she pressed for a serious relationship. Soon realized that was not in the cards and made the best of the other benefits. She lived in Sanfrancisco Demarconis. She absolutely loves DTTY and sex is very sweet. My other is a 180 difference. She meets me in SD but lives in Sosua. I think she worked at BB when she was younger she is in her 30s. That is old for DR putas. She will let you put it any where you want as much as you want. HOT Sex 5 or 6 times a day. When she is through you got nothing in the tank. The way she got my attention is I was planning a trip and was arranging for ladies to meet. She senced my interest was waining so she sent me nude photos. Bingo top of the list.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1525091]Grownman1, Surfer500, and Oldkool: Bravo!

That was excellent info on DC especially for first time mongers. It oils up the mongering machinery to get it going per say. And it's a great backup if your having a rough day hunting.

While I've never been to the DR, I have used another site for my very first trip to Cuba 4yrs ago and it was a HUGE success. I used a FREE site called CyberCupido and ALLL but one girl accepted the sex. And I can say with confidence from experience that 99% were looking for mutual benefits and 1% serious about a relationship. And of course within that 99% ran the whole gamut of women from hardened jineteras to small town very young ladies wanting to wet their feet in the sex tourism for the first time.

I would like you and others to share their experiences with these sites and give some breakdown of the type of females one would encounter. And also the giographical differences with the women.

Also, please explain the "aggressive" nature of the girls everyone talks about. Are they aggressive in selling their services? Or aggressive in wanting a real relationship?[/QUOTE]

OldKool,

That's some nice "carne" on those chicas! Good job!

And bty, thanks for referencing the chica's wage which is within Wikipidia's "List of minimum wages by country"

Every time a monger does that, you have no idea how much it helps put the economics of mongering into perfect understanding for that PARTICULAR country, region, province or town. So thanks again for that detail.

Bty, I HIGHLY recommend EVERY monger novice or expert to keep the above list on one of their browser's tabs and here is that link: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country[/url]

It is worth mentioning, I used tagged as my first contact ever with the dominican chicas and honestly I'm disappointed. 95% of them had the kinds of photos I learned to associate with pros or just materialistic chicas spoiled by American pop culture.

So to me, when I am asking about the different types of chicas relative to the region she is from I'm concerned to avoid the above chicas and not concerned with the shade of her color that much.

I also forgot to add trying to connect with Dominicanas on MySpace has been a failure for me so far.

And just now I am seeing nice looking Dominicanas on Cybercupido which I am already a member of so I'll try that

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1525071][/QUOTE]Count me in this number! Dominican Cupid is the shit! I met a girl who came to see me from Sabaneta. She couldn't speak a lick of English, but gave me the best session since I been in the DR. She is a keeper and on my top 3 list. DC gives me so many options I can't keep up with all the chicas coming at me. It real gives me more options of places and chicas to explore. It beat Tagged hands down and Tagged is free to chat.[/QUOTE]

GM and OldKool, I just joined DC based on your recommendations, and was D lighted to see that you can sort the girls by cup size (or many other criteria) for an extra monthly fee. Has anyone done this? Was it worth it? Thanks.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1525167][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country[/url][/QUOTE]This link was quite interesting to look at. Thanks. No wonder why so many beautiful third world women are selling their bodies for what we consider discount prices. Fractions of what it is in the USA and Europe.

Putas get a weeks pay for a quickie.

Average wage in the DR.

Almost slave wages.

6, 320 Dominican pesos ($167) per month in the FTZs and between 6, 880 pesos and 11, 292 pesos outside the FTZs, depending upon the size of the company; 5, 117 pesos ($130) per month for the public sector; 234 pesos a day for farm workers who are covered by minimum wage regulations based on a 10-hour day, with the exception of sugarcane workers who received 129 pesos ($3. 19) based on an eight-hour workday. [4][72][73]

[QUOTE=D Cups;1525392]This link was quite interesting to look at. Thanks. No wonder why so many beautiful third world women are selling their bodies for what we consider discount prices. Fractions of what it is in the USA and Europe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1525091]Grownman1, Surfer500, and Oldkool: Bravo!

That was excellent info on DC especially for first time mongers. It oils up the mongering machinery to get it going per say. And it's a great backup if your having a rough day hunting.

While I've never been to the DR, I have used another site for my very first trip to Cuba 4yrs ago and it was a HUGE success. I used a FREE site called CyberCupido and ALLL but one girl accepted the sex. And I can say with confidence from experience that 99% were looking for mutual benefits and 1% serious about a relationship. And of course within that 99% ran the whole gamut of women from hardened jineteras to small town very young ladies wanting to wet their feet in the sex tourism for the first time.

I would like you and others to share their experiences with these sites and give some breakdown of the type of females one would encounter. And also the giographical differences with the women.

Also, please explain the "aggressive" nature of the girls everyone talks about. Are they aggressive in selling their services? Or aggressive in wanting a real relationship?[/QUOTE]A close mouth don't get fed. Novio or client means money or help. As soon as these chica see your profile on-line they aggressive respond if they are interested or they save you as a favorite. Relationship or hook up depends on the female and your game plan. I remember one chica saying "I am not looking for friends I have enough, just tell me what you want". As soon as she does one or both of these responses DC notifies you (right there on-line or by email) with a brief picture. You can explore then or later! An American with so so looks is the "Golden Calf" and can get hits all day. You can hit a chica up the same way. You can see what age ranges she likes, her age, and more personal info. You can also view girls similar to her. If you are a beginner and don't know any Spanish try to deal with the chicas that speak some English.

Allot of us deal with chicas better when we have a little knowledge and rapture prior to meeting. Having her visit you while you are in the DR give you better control over your relations and like my man OlK say having young sexy tender chicas waiting for your visit to the DR is exciting.

Its on you to read into your chica intentions but remember this:

1. All of these chicas can uses some cash. Even if she doesn't come out and ask you.

2. A chica solo with many pic dressing provocative might be a semi or pro.

3. A chica with pictures of herself and love ones (mother, father, kids etc) might be looking for something more.

4. If she live in Sosua 95% she is a semi to pro.

5. If she is 18-25 and is looking for a man 35-80 : well you get the picture.

6."Student" means I don't have a job! And you will see a lot of students.

7. If she is on the site every time you get on no matter the hour. She is fishing hard!

8. A serious chica will tell you off the rip what she is looking for. If she is playing it by hear then you set the tone.

9. No picture chicas should be avoided!

10. Don't put all your marbles with 1 chica.

11. If she is not the girl on the picture when you meet her Stop! Kill the bullshit right there!

I am pretty sure Sufer500, Olk and other can keep add on to this.

Nope you nailed it. Getting a chica who to green is a mistake. Always flirt with the girls and try to discuss sex. If she pushes back move on. The girl you are looking for knows sex is her gift to you. You can be subtle. As is we will be staying in a hotel room together (HINT). If she gives the slightest push back cut bait. Use your charm and her greed and need to reel her in.

I am pretty sure Sufer500, Olk and other can keep add on to this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1; 1525511]A close mouth don't get fed. Novio or client means money or help. As soon as these chica see your profile on-line they aggressive respond if they are interested or they save you as a favorite. Relationship or hook up depends on the female and your game plan. I remember one chica saying "I am not looking for friends I have enough, just tell me what you want". As soon as she does one or both of these responses DC notifies you (right there on-line or by email) with a brief picture. You can explore then or later! An American with so so looks is the "Golden Calf" and can get hits all day. You can hit a chica up the same way. You can see what age ranges she likes, her age, and more personal info. You can also view girls similar to her. If you are a beginner and don't know any Spanish try to deal with the chicas that speak some English...[/QUOTE]This is an excellent summary of what I have experienced and encountered on the DC Site with one exception. I have gotten over two hundred interested notifications from all over the DR and have yet to encounter one chica that responded or speaks English since joining three months ago. If you don't speak any Spanish, don't waste your time as you will be dead in the water when you have to converse with them which for me has been online chatting, via-E Mail, by Skype, by phone, and texting. I have four lined up when I arrive next week, two new ones and two from my last trip. I'm now trying to figure out how to manage my leche between the DC chicas and those I'll be taking from the Strip!

[QUOTE=OldKool; 1525515]Nope you nailed it. Getting a chica who to green is a mistake. Always flirt with the girls and try to discuss sex. If she pushes back move on. The girl you are looking for knows sex is her gift to you. You can be subtle. As is we will be staying in a hotel room together (HINT). If she gives the slightest push back cut bait. Use your charm and her greed and need to reel her in.

I am pretty sure Sufer500, Olk and other can keep add on to this.[/QUOTE]All my DC chicas know what's going to happen in the room!

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1525389]GM and OldKool, I just joined DC based on your recommendations, and was D lighted to see that you can sort the girls by cup size (or many other criteria) for an extra monthly fee. Have you or anyone else done this?

Was it worth it? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Anybody? Thanks.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1525524]Anybody? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes I paid and will pay again!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1525515]Nope you nailed it. Getting a chica who to green is a mistake. [b]Always flirt with the girls and try to discuss sex. If she pushes back move on.[/b] The girl you are looking for knows sex is her gift to you. You can be subtle. As is we will be staying in a hotel room together (HINT). If she gives the slightest push back cut bait. Use your charm and her greed and need to reel her in.[/QUOTE]No wonder y'all think every girl in DR is a hooker, because the hookers are the ones you are looking for while rejecting the normal women. At the same time I reject women online who start talking about bringing them gifts and I haven't even met them. So that has been the X factor all of this time. I was wondering why I keep ending up with all these non-pros, while you guys are swearing ALL the women in DR expect to be given money and gifts. It's because you entice them with the promise of money and gifts beforehand if they choose to stay with you. I never discuss sex with a woman online, but 95% of the time it happens anyway.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1525519]This is an excellent summary of what I have experienced and encountered on the DC Site with one exception. I have gotten over two hundred interested notifications from all over the DR and have yet to encounter one chica that responded or speaks English since joining three months ago.![/QUOTE]Wow are you serious, I have met many in the 1 month I have been on. I avoid notifications a lot. I try to stay away from the semi and pros except if when I see a chica just for the noch in my belt. My friend I met after a week called me and speaks well. She made it clear her intentions and level of the game that she understands and is done playing. Sufer500 you have the option of picking a chica in a profile that "says speaks some or fluent English! I put my chicas in catergories. Novias and knock offs, but that me I do the DR a lot.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1525607]Wow are you serious, I have met many in the 1 month I have been on. I avoid notifications a lot. I try to stay away from the semi and pros except if when I see a chica just for the noch in my belt. My friend I met after a week called me and speaks well. She made it clear her intentions and level of the game that she understands and is done playing. Sufer500 you have the option of picking a chica in a profile that "says speaks some or fluent English! I put my chicas in catergories. Novias and knock offs, but that me I do the DR a lot.[/QUOTE]Grown Man I checked and actually received almost 400 "Interested Notifications" and ignored the majority of them as they were either outside the Puerto Plata / Sosua area or the girls were undesirable. Of the ones I followed up, some of their profiles said they spoke some English, but most of them really didn't even speak enough to say a complete sentence, just a few words here and there. For someone who doesn't speak any Spanish, their choices and options are going to be extremely limited on the DC website. My guess is that less than 5 % of the girls on this Site are actually fluent or at least semi-fluent in English. My guess is you speak some Spanish, I can't imagine anyone who doesn't speak any Spanish having much success on this Site.

Novias bring complications I do not want. I try not to lie or mislead the ladies. A semi pro understands and will give me every thing I want with no ties.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1525607]Wow are you serious, I have met many in the 1 month I have been on. I avoid notifications a lot. I try to stay away from the semi and pros except if when I see a chica just for the noch in my belt. My friend I met after a week called me and speaks well. She made it clear her intentions and level of the game that she understands and is done playing. Sufer500 you have the option of picking a chica in a profile that "says speaks some or fluent English! I put my chicas in catergories. Novias and knock offs, but that me I do the DR a lot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1525706]Novias bring complications I do not want. I try not to lie or mislead the ladies. A semi pro understands and will give me every thing I want with no ties.[/QUOTE]I feel ya OlK sometimes I feel cursed for having novias in certain areas. In the clubs in BC my novia there is constantly making sure the other chicas know I am hands off. A lot are scared of her. One chica I really want came out and told me she has to leave me alone because she doesn't want no problems with Haitians. On the flip side I and trust her to a point. She doesn't asked for money but I look out. I have given her a lot of second hand clothes and cheap dollars store items for her business. If she is trying to have something I don't mind helping. I am going to have me a novia in every good area of the DR. Accept Sosua.

Do not get me wrong. Having a DR girl friend is wonderful. They treat you like a man wants to be treated. Yes you can relax with them. When you get that kind of treatment gifts and money are well spent money. I am older now and having 20 something girl friends seems a bit silly but it does not stop me. I have a few 30 plus girls that are fun as well.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1525974]I feel ya OlK sometimes I feel cursed for having novias in certain areas. In the clubs in BC my novia there is constantly making sure the other chicas know I am hands off. A lot are scared of her. One chica I really want came out and told me she has to leave me alone because she doesn't want no problems with Haitians. On the flip side I and trust her to a point. She doesn't asked for money but I look out. I have given her a lot of second hand clothes and cheap dollars store items for her business. If she is trying to have something I don't mind helping. I am going to have me a novia in every good area of the DR. Accept Sosua.[/QUOTE]

A new poster has sent me a PM here and I see he copied it to many of us. To save us all replying separately and duplicating information I thought it would be more helpful to him and other new readers to pool our thoughts here. I shall not mention his board name but he can join in if he wants to acknowledge his PM and guys can still reply privately if they prefer.

[QUOTE=the new poster]Hello, I saw your post about Dominican women. I have the funds to live there for a few months, because its close and so cheap. Ive heard that alot of Dominincans hate dark/black skin, since im a dark skin black american. Do you think they would still be interested? Also, do you know of anyone that could show me around and introduce me to people in the DR? In any city, could be Santo Domingo, PP, or BC.[/QUOTE]I see you have written to everyone on the board so I will be brief.

There is widespread and insitutional racism here but if you are a gringo, and have a little money to spend, that trumps all else. If you were applying for a job or to live in an exclusive area that might be different.

You won't find a pale-skinned non-working girlfriend but for P4P it makes no difference. Lots of black Americans have a great time here.

If you go to one of the gringo mongering places to live, you will find ex-pats to help get you started. I could help in Puerto Plata for example.

Any reason you do not include Sosua on your list? That is the most popular destination.

Don't think the DR is cheap to live. Rents are cheap. Women are cheap. Rum is cheap. Public transport is cheap. A visit to the doctor is cheap (But medicines are expensive). Everything else is the same as the US or more expensive and quality is generally inferior. And there are lots of hidden costs to living here, popularly known as "The Gringo Tax".

When I was in DR in August they had implemented a new $80 fee to leave the country. Is that still in force? If not, what is the current fee?

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1531589]When I was in DR in August they had implemented a new $80 fee to leave the country. Is that still in force? If not, what is the current fee?[/QUOTE]Never heard if an exit fee before in my life and I visit the dr every 3 or 4 months. Just left dr last week. You got ripped off bud, but them again it could be different policies if your not american

I was in the DR last week, and I didn't pay an exit fee out of my pocket. Was it out of pocket, or tacked on to your ticket price? My ticket price in Jan / Feb was the same as it was in October.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1531662]Never heard if an exit fee before in my life and I visit the dr every 3 or 4 months. Just left dr last week. You got ripped off bud, but them again it could be different policies if your not american[/QUOTE]Whenn I used to travel to the DR and back from the UK, the departure fee was US$10 (had to be paid in dollars). Visitors from the US had already paid it included in their airfares. Not sure about other countries.

Or maybe the distinction was between charter flights (like mine) and scheduled flights, regardless of country?

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1531589]When I was in DR in August they had implemented a new $80 fee to leave the country. Is that still in force? If not, what is the current fee?[/QUOTE]Are you saying 80 dollars or 80 pesos? The former seems too much to be realistic and the latter too little.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1531777]Whenn I used to travel to the DR and back from the UK, the departure fee was US$10 (had to be paid in dollars). Visitors from the US had already paid it included in their airfares. Not sure about other countries.

Or maybe the distinction was between charter flights (like mine) and scheduled flights, regardless of country?[/QUOTE]I hate to correct you Sir Pooter but the exit fee was $ 20 and it is now incorporated into the airline ticket price. For a while charter flights had to pay at the airport and scheduled flights were included, this of course added to the confusion.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1531802]I hate to correct you Sir Pooter but the exit fee was $ 20 and it is now incorporated into the airline ticket price. For a while charter flights had to pay at the airport and scheduled flights were included, this of course added to the confusion.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I originally wrote "20" then for some reason edited it to "10". Thanks for clearing that up.

What is the current position?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1531812]Thanks. I originally wrote "20" then for some reason edited it to "10". Thanks for clearing that up.

What is the current position?[/QUOTE]AFAIK the $ 20 is included in the price of the ticket for everyone now. They even took out the counter where the used to collect the money. I did read a report recently somewhere that some official looking guy was trying to rip passengers off by trying to collect an exit fee. In the departures area of the airport.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1531812]Thanks. I originally wrote "20" then for some reason edited it to "10". Thanks for clearing that up.

What is the current position?[/QUOTE]My ticket to the DR has a DR Airport Authority Fee at $15 and DR Airport Infrastructure Fee at $16.30.

IMO no additional charges should be occurring.

My girlfriend, who's very attractive, and I have been to Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, etc, to vacation and enjoy the company of attractive, sexy girls. I thought that we would take a short notice trip to a nice beach location in DR but I need some advice.

What we normally do is stay in very nice hotels and bring the girls back to our room. Reading the various posts, it seems that Sousa may be the best place to visit because of its great beach and mongering possibilities. However, looking at the hotels in Sousa, I haven't found any really nice ones. Does anyone know of an upscale hotel there or should I be looking to visit another area in DR.

Also, this may be a deal breaker, but my girlfriend doesn't care for dark-skinned chicas (ok with me) , so am I better off not considering DR at all?

Thanks for any advice.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di;1532658]Also, this may be a deal breaker, but my girlfriend doesn't care for dark-skinned chicas (ok with me) , so am I better off not considering DR at all?[/QUOTE] Yes. No really nice hotels in Sosua anyway.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di; 1532658]My girlfriend, who's very attractive, and I have been to Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, etc, to vacation and enjoy the company of attractive, sexy girls. I thought that we would take a short notice trip to a nice beach location in DR but I need some advice.

What we normally do is stay in very nice hotels and bring the girls back to our room. Reading the various posts, it seems that Sousa may be the best place to visit because of its great beach and mongering possibilities. However, looking at the hotels in Sousa, I haven't found any really nice ones. Does anyone know of an upscale hotel there or should I be looking to visit another area in DR.

Also, this may be a deal breaker, but my girlfriend doesn't care for dark-skinned chicas (ok with me) , so am I better off not considering DR at all?

Thanks for any advice.[/QUOTE]Dominicans are of mixed African / latino descent, with the emphasis on African. You may find some with lighter complexions, but if they are generally not your type, you should pick another destination. But on the whole, I think that you should check it out anyway. You never know what you may turn out liking. And if it turns out to be not your thing, the DR is a very inexpensive vacation anyway.

Sosua is the best option if you don't want to move around. Its the only place that has everything, including expedient transportation. Just don't go expecting a beautiful, beachside oasis. It is definitely not.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di; 1532658]My girlfriend, who's very attractive, and I have been to Thailand, Philippines, Colombia, etc, to vacation and enjoy the company of attractive, sexy girls. I thought that we would take a short notice trip to a nice beach location in DR but I need some advice.

What we normally do is stay in very nice hotels and bring the girls back to our room. Reading the various posts, it seems that Sousa may be the best place to visit because of its great beach and mongering possibilities. However, looking at the hotels in Sousa, I haven't found any really nice ones. Does anyone know of an upscale hotel there or should I be looking to visit another area in DR.

Also, this may be a deal breaker, but my girlfriend doesn't care for dark-skinned chicas (ok with me) , so am I better off not considering DR at all?

Thanks for any advice.[/QUOTE]Your description makes you sound like a bit of a "high-roller."

Sosua would definitely not be to your taste.

"Very nice" hotels are more likely to be found in Santiago, Santo Domingo, Punta Cana, Bavaro, etc.

The last two, in particular, are upscale tourist areas, and you are more likely to find lighter-skinned girls in those areas.

That said, the DR population is mostly in shades of brown, from caramel to dark chocolate.

Fair-skinned girls are definitely in the minority, and are often of a social-economic class that doesn't compel them to "rent their affection. '

Another alternative would be one of the high-priced (over-priced) complexes which cater to mongers who think there is status in overpaying for accommodations and women.

These complexes often offer Eastern European women, but be prepared to pay their prices.

Information on such complexes are found in the threads. They tend to be located on the North Coast.

[quote=jimmy di; 1532658]my girlfriend, who's very attractive, and i have been to thailand, philippines, colombia, etc, to vacation and enjoy the company of attractive, sexy girls. i thought that we would take a short notice trip to a nice beach location in dr but i need some advice.

what we normally do is stay in very nice hotels and bring the girls back to our room. reading the various posts, it seems that sousa may be the best place to visit because of its great beach and mongering possibilities. however, looking at the hotels in sousa, i haven't found any really nice ones. does anyone know of an upscale hotel there or should i be looking to visit another area in dr.

also, this may be a deal breaker, but my girlfriend doesn't care for dark-skinned chicas (ok with me) , so am i better off not considering dr at all?

thanks for any advice.[/quote]if you read general tourists books on the dr, you will find that they are many fun things to do along the north coast. the damajuaga falls, kite-surfing, etc. there is no one place that has it all, and you will find all the high-points spread out. the fun zone extends from blackbeards to cabarete. but that's a one hour drive stretch. the most convenient thing is to have a car, so you can move around to your tastes. but that is a very controversial topic. if you read back, you'll see debates rage on it every few months. cabarete is the most well-developed tourist wise, with several good hotel options. it is the world center for kite surfing, and that has brought with it a certain amount of civic development.

imho, the nicest beach is in cabarete. lots of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] activities there too, as well as restaurant choice. thin on the nightlife though. you would have to cab it to sosua, which wouldn't be cheap.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69; 1532837]Your description makes you sound like a bit of a "high-roller."

Sosua would definitely not be to your taste.

"Very nice" hotels are more likely to be found in Santiago, Santo Domingo, Punta Cana, Bavaro, etc.

The last two, in particular, are upscale tourist areas, and you are more likely to find lighter-skinned girls in those areas.

That said, the DR population is mostly in shades of brown, from caramel to dark chocolate.

Fair-skinned girls are definitely in the minority, and are often of a social-economic class that doesn't compel them to "rent their affection. '

Another alternative would be one of the high-priced (over-priced) complexes which cater to mongers who think there is status in overpaying for accommodations and women.

These complexes often offer Eastern European women, but be prepared to pay their prices.

Information on such complexes are found in the threads. They tend to be located on the North Coast.[/QUOTE]FOLLOW UP:

You might also investigate either BlackBeard's or Field of Dreams; both adult complexes in the Puerto Plata area.

Both are comfortable, and well accommodated, but not real upscale, if that is what you need.

Both often have fair-skinned (but not "white") girls on-site, or are willing to call one.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69; 1532843]You might also investigate either BlackBeard's or Field of Dreams; both adult complexes in the Puerto Plata area.

Both are comfortable, and well accommodated, but not real upscale, if that is what you need.

Both often have fair-skinned (but not "white") girls on-site, or are willing to call one.[/QUOTE]An advantage of staying at either of those places is that the management will point you in the direction of chicas who are willing to do M / F/F threesomes. Such chicas are harder to find in the DR that in some other countries you have been. Of course you can find such chicas yourself in Sosua, but many of them who do that are really hardcore and you might be disappointed or scammed, whereas as BB or FoD you are in a gringo-managed safe environment.

You will find prices very fair at both places. They are not among the over-priced places catering to the gullible which someone mentioned.

Local white-skinned working-girls are rarer in the DR than dry farts. Most of those that do exist cater to richer Dominicans and are not available to tourists. It is not just a question of money. East European imports are available at high prices, as are "fair-skinned" (but not white) girls.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1532903]An advantage of staying at either of those places is that the management will point you in the direction of chicas who are willing to do M / F/F threesomes. Such chicas are harder to find in the DR that in some other countries you have been. Of course you can find such chicas yourself in Sosua, but many of them who do that are really hardcore and you might be disappointed or scammed, whereas as BB or FoD you are in a gringo-managed safe environment.

You will find prices very fair at both places. They are not among the over-priced places catering to the gullible which someone mentioned.

Local white-skinned working-girls are rarer in the DR than dry farts. Most of those that do exist cater to richer Dominicans and are not available to tourists. It is not just a question of money. East European imports are available at high prices, as are "fair-skinned" (but not white) girls.[/QUOTE]I was thinking that there would only be men at BlackBeard's and at Field of Dreams and that my girl wouldn't feel that comfortable staying there, am I wrong assuming that?

Also I did find online a small boutique hotel in Sousa that looks somewhat decent called Casa Veintiuno. Does anyone know if they're girl-friendly?

Thank you again for your help.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1532903]An advantage of staying at either of those places is that the management will point you in the direction of chicas who are willing to do M / F/F threesomes. Such chicas are harder to find in the DR that in some other countries you have been. Of course you can find such chicas yourself in Sosua, but many of them who do that are really hardcore and you might be disappointed or scammed, whereas as BB or FoD you are in a gringo-managed safe environment.

You will find prices very fair at both places. They are not among the over-priced places catering to the gullible which someone mentioned.

Local white-skinned working-girls are rarer in the DR than dry farts. Most of those that do exist cater to richer Dominicans and are not available to tourists. It is not just a question of money. East European imports are available at high prices, as are "fair-skinned" (but not white) girls.[/QUOTE]It is easy enough to find girls who will participate in threesomes including girl on girl sex, but finding white-skinned girls, no. The enquirer would be better off going to some other country if satisfying his mate's craving for light skin is a factor.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di;1532658]However, looking at the hotels in Sousa, I haven't found any really nice ones. Does anyone know of an upscale hotel there or should I be looking to visit another area in DR.[/QUOTE]Upscale, forget it, they all suck. Think Motel 6. The best room I've found is the presidents' suite in the SD Hilton. Hardly 'presidential' by American standards but very nice by any measure.

Pooters right in that fair skinned girls are not indigenous but there are many (though rarely in sosewer) that have Caucasian features thereby making them just like American girls with a good tan like the one here (in the presidential suite). Got her in a bar called I think 305 but that was a few years ago. Very walkable and was safe then and on the malecon. Interesting city also and I think it fits your crit.

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1532667]All provocative and challenging posts, nothing original as far I've gone back.

I am not concluding anything, but please go back and do your own research before responding.[/QUOTE]My guess is that he's just a high school kid as his posts rarely rise above sophomoric in either argument quality or trip info. And his recent summary of the Jamaican mongering scene was laughable suggesting he might have been there with his parents.

But as you say, reach your own conclusion.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1532955]It is easy enough to find girls who will participate in threesomes including girl on girl sex, but finding white-skinned girls, no. The enquirer would be better off going to some other country if satisfying his mate's craving for light skin is a factor.[/QUOTE]A visit to the photo gallery for this thread would show what is available. Not sure what the girlfriend's preferences are, but there are light-skinned girls with what are considered "Latin" looks that could "fit the bill."

[QUOTE=Yanqui69; 1532837]Your description makes you sound like a bit of a "high-roller."

Sosua would definitely not be to your taste.

"Very nice" hotels are more likely to be found in Santiago, Santo Domingo, Punta Cana, Bavaro, etc.

The last two, in particular, are upscale tourist areas, and you are more likely to find lighter-skinned girls in those areas.

That said, the DR population is mostly in shades of brown, from caramel to dark chocolate.

Fair-skinned girls are definitely in the minority, and are often of a social-economic class that doesn't compel them to "rent their affection. '

Another alternative would be one of the high-priced (over-priced) complexes which cater to mongers who think there is status in overpaying for accommodations and women.

These complexes often offer Eastern European women, but be prepared to pay their prices.

Information on such complexes are found in the threads. They tend to be located on the North Coast.[/QUOTE]So perhaps Punta Cana and Bravaro, with nicer hotels there, would be locations to consider. What are the mongering possibilities like?

You can rent luxury homes and apartments all over the North Coast. These places are very nice. They rival anything in SD or PC.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di;1533016]So perhaps Punta Cana and Bravaro, with nicer hotels there, would be locations to consider. What are the mongering possibilities like?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di;1533016]So perhaps Punta Cana and Bravaro, with nicer hotels there, would be locations to consider. What are the mongering possibilities like?[/QUOTE]No idea. (Anyone else?)

Bavaro, but especially Punta Cana are very upscale. (Julio Iglesias, among others, owns a property there).

Being a resort area for people with money means any "mongering" would be very discreet / expensive, but even wealthy people want to get laid.

FYI, I saw the latest newsletter from BlackBeards and there were several lighter-skinned girls on the site.

Suggest you look up its site online and sign up (its free) for the monthly newsletter to get an idea.

If you like, you can unsubscribe later.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di; 1532917]I was thinking that there would only be men at BlackBeard's and at Field of Dreams and that my girl wouldn't feel that comfortable staying there, am I wrong assuming that?

Also I did find online a small boutique hotel in Sousa that looks somewhat decent called Casa Veintiuno. Does anyone know if they're girl-friendly?

Thank you again for your help.[/QUOTE]Of course the clientele at BlackBeards (BB) is almost all male, but I have seen the occasional couple at both BB and Field of Dreams (FOD).

Any venue for such activity will be mostly male, but shyness seems out of place in this activity.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di;1533016]So perhaps Punta Cana and Bravaro, with nicer hotels there, would be locations to consider. What are the mongering possibilities like?[/QUOTE]You might want to read the Punta Cana thread first before asking questions. Camaro just recently went through the trouble of doing an in-dept write up on the area last month.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1533693]You might want to read the Punta Cana thread first before asking questions. Camaro just recently went through the trouble of doing an in-dept write up on the area last month.[/QUOTE]Agree.

Just checked that thread and its all there.

(Not in my price range, so have never wandered into that thread).

[QUOTE=Yanqui69; 1533785]Agree.

Just checked that thread and its all there.

(Not in my price range, so have never wandered into that thread).[/QUOTE]Thank you everyone for your help on this.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a good electronic talking translator (English < Spanish)? Thanks.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1534526]Does anyone have any recommendations for a good electronic talking translator (English < Spanish)? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Just get rosetta stone. Yull be having conversations after the secend level

[QUOTE=D Cups;1534526]Does anyone have any recommendations for a good electronic talking translator (English < Spanish)? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Most people use Google Translate or Bing these days with a wireless device. They also work for Kreyol. You can download Spanish and use offline, also use camera to photograph and translate menus or documents.

If a man has a wife or GF who lives in the Dominican Republic, what is the appropriate amount of money to send her every month to help with bills?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1534815]Most people use Google Translate or Bing these days with a wireless device. They also work for Kreyol. You can download Spanish and use offline, also use camera to photograph and translate menus or documents.[/QUOTE]If anyone uses Bing then they must not be technologically saavy! Google or nothing. I don't even know why anyone would use anything other than google ever.

[QUOTE=Mr OReilly;1535059]If anyone uses Bing then they must not be technologically saavy! Google or nothing. I don't even know why anyone would use anything other than google ever.[/QUOTE]Google Translate is not available with Windows phone.

Bing translator seems fine to me, though I rarely use it as I speak Spanish pretty well.

[QUOTE=Monger#77;1535056]If a man has a wife or GF who lives in the Dominican Republic, what is the appropriate amount of money to send her every month to help with bills?[/QUOTE]0. If she was surviving before she met you then she won't suddenly perish without your money after she meets you.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1534526]Does anyone have any recommendations for a good electronic talking translator (English < Spanish)? Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you have a smart phone you can download a translate app for free. It can be used were wifi is available or if you have service in the DR. Make sure U-turn off your data delivery so your phone can just pull wifi.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1535256]If you have a smart phone you can download a translate app for free. It can be used were wifi is available or if you have service in the DR. Make sure U-turn off your data delivery so your phone can just pull wifi.[/QUOTE]The point I made about the Bing translate program is that you can download the English-Spanish pack and then you can also use it OFFLINE even if you do not have a wifi connection. This is also possible with Google Translate (though I have not tried it) which is said to be technologically superior. Google Translate runs on Android phones and also on Apple.

[quote=monger#77;1535056]if a man has a wife or gf who lives in the dominican republic, what is the appropriate amount of money to send her every month to help with bills?[/quote]this would depend entirely on her living situation, for example does she live with family or rent her own apartment, pay utilities (cooking gas, electricity) etc, does she have children and need to buy [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url], milk, formula, or school uniforms, supplies, and fees, what are her transportation needs, do you want her to have a data package so she can skype you or does she have an apartment where there is wifi included, how much income does she have, does she owe any money for installment purchases, and so on?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1535289]The point I made about the Bing translate program is that you can download the English-Spanish pack and then you can also use it OFFLINE even if you do not have a wifi connection. This is also possible with Google Translate (though I have not tried it) which is said to be technologically superior. Google Translate runs on Android phones and also on Apple.[/QUOTE]I have google translate on my android. It works well. You can type or speak or write or capture photos (as you mentioned). Works better and faster when it is connected than offline.

61 year old Czech woman lived there since 1998. Very suspicious.

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[QUOTE=Monger#77;1535056]If a man has a wife or GF who lives in the Dominican Republic, what is the appropriate amount of money to send her every month to help with bills?[/QUOTE]Don't be a mangina. Let her fuck for her bucks. If you send her money she'll just raise her standards and fuck men who offer more money. In doing so she runs more risk of leaving you for another man (one with more money). Save your money so that you can travel back and be with her sooner.

Here are the deadliest countries with automobile accidents, along with the number of fatalities per 100, 000 residents. Note that there's only one overlapping country, Malawi. ("Congo" refers to the Republic of the Congo, not the Democratic Republic of the Congo, which is a completely separate country.)

1. Namibia (45)

2. Thailand (44)

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4. Sudan (36)

5. Swaziland (36)

6. Venezuela (35)

7. Congo (34)

8. Malawi (32)

9. Dominican Republic (32)

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