Berlin

[QUOTE=Geryon; 1156446].

Betty seemed very sweet at first, tall blond with small tits (which I like) , but as soon as we got into the room she became a robot. Clothes off, she tried to upsell me 20 euros for kissing and BBJ.

[/QUOTE]1) Normally, the house KD did not have a policy about extras for kisses and BBJ (services that need extras are listed in "Financial Conditions" ( KD_fin_cond.jpg) )

2) According to KD's web page, Betty is new ( KD_Betty_new*.jpg ) in this house (but probably not new in the profession) so may be she did not know KD's policy yet?

[QUOTE=Lexb; 1156932]For p4p in and around Berlin BUT, IMO, this, potential, quality (age range and physical condition) of WG, will, probably, only be available at "upscale" (meaning expensive) venues like "appointment only" escorts, FKKs and massage parlours.

Working in a Red Light District and a PTT will, probably, be deamed "beneath" the dignity of most university student SPs!

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110518/lf_nm_life/us_germany_odd_prostitution[/url][/QUOTE]I am not sure that you are right about it just benefiting the upper scale of Berlin p4p. This story really seems to be making the rounds at the moment and has appeared in every local paper. That means lots of exposure and lots of you women, who might have been considering it, deciding to take the plunge however they think about it. For those interested it might do to keep an eye on such websites as Kaufmich and Poppen where these student indy's are likely to appear.

Anyway, just some speculation.

AM

[QUOTE=Geryon; 1156446].

I emailed Kamila about a week before I arrived in Berlin to schedule some time, and never got a response. Then 3 days before I arrived in Berlin, I called, and I was told to call back on Sunday once the schedule had been set. I called on Sunday, and scheduled an appointment with Bo. I was told to call today half an hour before my appointment to confirm. I called to confirm, was told that Bo not coming in when I had scheduled her. Grr.

[/QUOTE]From my happy and unhappy experiences with KD, I propose

1) to consider that KD is a company with different departments, among them, the department "Escort" and the department "incalls at Blissestrass".

2) to be warned that these departments work separately.

3) to use exclusively phone calls (no email, no sms) for contacts with the department "Incalls"

4) to use phone calls or email (no sms) for the first contacts with the department "Escorts" (after these first contacts, sms could be used but with another phone number unpublished on the web site and given to us by KD )

5) to use the schedule just as "forecast" information (for many of the ladies, this job is a "hidden" job so we can imagine that it's not easy for them to postpone events (they did not expect) in their "normal" life just for KD's clients. Furthermore, some of them are single mothers so we can imagine easily that if their children get sick, they won't come to work ... etc ....)
Let's notice that the web site warns that the published schedule is "without obligation" (see appended jpeg file)

[Quote=Angus Magee]I am not sure that you are right about it just benefiting the upper scale of Berlin p4p. This story really seems to be making the rounds at the moment and has appeared in every local paper. That means lots of exposure and lots of you women, who might have been considering it, deciding to take the plunge however they think about it. For those interested it might do to keep an eye on such websites as Kaufmich and Poppen where these student indy's are likely to appear.

Anyway, just some speculation. [/Quote]You're "preaching to the choir", BTW but the websites you mentioned. I wouuld assume, based on what you wrote, that these are where incall / outcall escorts advertise = BIG MONEY (at least for my budget, anyway!)

Correct me if I'm wrong, please but I would be just thrilled if any of them ended up in red light districts!

[QUOTE=Lexb; 1158380]You're "preaching to the choir", BTW but the websites you mentioned. I wouuld assume, based on what you wrote, that these are where incall / outcall escorts advertise = BIG MONEY (at least for my budget, anyway!)

Correct me if I'm wrong, please but I would be just thrilled if any of them ended up in red light districts! [/QUOTE]Well I do not have any personal experience with Kaufmich but I do monitor the German forum and see what goes on with the girls listed there. Plenty are working for agencies and / or small bordellos. But there are also indys who advertise there. For those interested you really do (in my opinion) have to look closely at the ads and try to determine which are which. It does not hurt to have access to the German forums either.

I doubt the student body (pun intended) will end up at the RLD. For one reason Berlin does not have an RLD per se. If you mean end up on the stroll (strassenstrich) I hope not as this is really the bottom end.

Truth is I agree with you in that I do not think that this student story means a great influx of cheap talent. Maybe just an influx of talent at a few level from mid to high end.

[QUOTE=Coloneldecker; 1156323]I was in Berlin last week so here are my mongering experiences.

I tried to go to Club Elfen but I couldn't find it. I'm aware that it's above McDonalds but I just could not find the buzzer. Maybe I'm blind but I just could not see it, so I went to Club Mac, which is just a short stroll away. I found their doorbell no problem, the housefrau answered and led me into a dark and dingy room. She explained that it's fifty euros for thirty mins, including BBBJ. Three girls were presented to me. I selected Lusy, the best looking and youngest, but was informed that she was not available? Why show her to me then? I settled for Sylvie, a slighly rough looking Bulgarian, around thirty years old. She tried to put a condom on me straight away. I pointed out that I had paid for BBBJ so, with a sigh, she led me to the sink and washed my meat. I got pretty hard while she rubbed my prick with soap and warm water. She gestured with the palm of her hand and said "kontrol kontrol", which I think is Bulgarian for "don't cum in my mouth you sleazy bastard". She then inspected my cock from every angle for around a minute before taking it in her mouth for a sweet BBBJ, just as I was ready to cum, she rolled a condom on then bent over for some doggy style. As soon as I entered her gaping vulva she started all this corny fake gruntin' and groanin' that I found kinda distracting so I got her to finish me off by hand. This place was pretty sleazy and sordid, just like me! Not the best fifty smackers I've ever spent but not the worst either.

! [/QUOTE]As posted in April I also could not find Club Elfen there. Can someone give more info on where it is. I was more satisfied with Mac though.

Hi.

[url]http://www.escortgirlsberlin.de/ewa.htm[/url]

I have used this agency a few times, mostly successfully. Ewa is not as pretty or as fresh-faced as she looks in her pics. She is at the end of a 10-month 'tour of duty' here in Berlin, and it shows. She is tall, quite pretty, with huge pendulous natural tits. The not-so-good news is that she has developed something of a belly and is clearly somewhat jaded. Kissing appeared to be off the menu. BBBJ was adequate. Fucking her on her back was a treat however, with those massive tits flying about, and on those grounds alone I was happy enough with what was on the whole a minimum-standard encounter. No repeat for me. Not especially recommended.

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-corinna.html[/url]

Altogether better was Corinna. Latest recruit at the KZ agency. This agency has a talent-spotting system that Barcelona FC would be proud of. I have had 6 or 7 of their cuties over the last two years and Corinna is a stellar addition to the stable. Slight, with a pretty round face, an engaging smile, perky tits, a round tush and all-in-all a much cuter, sweeter girl-next-door package than her vampy photos would suggest. She is at that perfect stage between enthusiastic novice and skilled pro. Somebody has taught her the basics but she is not yet the finished article (and much the more intruiging for that). BBBJ was soft, wet and sensual. She responded to some deft finger-work on my part followed by some delicious DATY. She seemed to suddenly back off just as she appeared about to come. I fucked her in mish. I wanted to try her in a few positions but couldn't hold back.

A terrific-value punt@120Euros. Recommended, especially for teenie fans. Despite the vast age gap (I'm so ashamed!) , we seemed to establish some sort of connection. A certain repeat for me.

Two wholly different encounters in the space of 24 hours that serve once again to illustrate the random nature of escort visits. With Ewa, a moderate session and with Corinna a terrific outing. How does one filter one's research to promote the likelihood of the latter and militate against the former? I wish I knew. My guess is that, aside from recommendations on forums such as these, you just have to throw the dice and hope. Buying into the escort sector of the market is a risky business. Not my idea of 'safe sex' at all. One thing is for sure. 60 seconds after the girl enters the room, I know how the session is going to turn out. That's the great advantage of Artemis. You get that crucial minute or so to make up your mind.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Geryon; 1156446]Went to Kamilla La Dee today and had a pretty terrible time. After reading so many glowing reports here about KD, I'm rather befuddled.

Etc.

Once arriving I was presented with 3 ladies. Betty, Nathalie and Marie. I chose Betty as the best looking of the bunch. I think I prefer Artemis where you can get to know a bit more about the girl before you head off to the room. Betty seemed very sweet at first, tall blond with small tits (which I like) , but as soon as we got into the room she became a robot. Clothes off, she tried to upsell me 20 euros for kissing and BBJ. The kissing was once and briefly, and the BBJ lasted about ten seconds and then the rest was awkward mechanical fucking. I was glad to take the half hour because her mushi was definitely smelly, there was no attempt to even look like she was enjoying it. I ended halfway just asking for a handjob because it was not worth spending anymore time doing it with her.

Once it was finally over, she jetted out of the room. The housefrau came in and asked me how I enjoyed myself. I mumbled "it was okay" and got out of there. [/QUOTE]May be you can write to the "escort department" (

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/contact.htm[/url]

) to talk about your story and ask Kira (see appended jpg) which ladies she would advise you according to your wishes.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]151513[/ATTACH]

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1159315]May be you can write to the "escort department" (

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/contact.htm[/url]

) to talk about your story and ask Kira (see appended jpg) which ladies she would advise you according to your wishes. [/QUOTE][b]1) To Geryon [/b]

Did you see[b] At the end [/b]of this KD's web page :

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/concept.htm[/url]

[i]

Etc.

In a case of frustration you may exspect to get a voucher from us, usually over the amount due to the house. That means 36- EUR if for example you gave 80- EUR in all for half an hour. On the money for the girl we cannot decide. But in cases of very heavy disappointment we give even a voucher over the complete money = 80- EUR / half hour.

Etc. [/i]

[b]2) To all[/b]

About appointments, there are new rules :

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/appointment.htm[/url]

I don't know when these new rules did take place : just notice that with the new rules an appointment (at Blissestrass) will need at least 2 phone calls, the second is for confirmation.

this report is from a visit to kd in february. was originally written in danish (also a bit longer with some text about kd) and i did not have the time (and forgot) to translate it for this board:

this day there are six girls in the parade. paloma (

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/paloma.htm[/url]

) is the most smiling of all of them. both the body and aura are in reality similar to the images on the website. i get confirmed that she kisses and after payment we go upstairs for an hour of fun. i grab a quick shower and i lie down naked on the bed when i return to the room.

paloma arrives, i turn around, and sitting on the bed i pull her over to me and i smell her belly skin. she turns around, bends over, and i put my hands up her back. i'm getting hard, and i get up so she can feel my penis between her buttocks. put my hands on her small breasts and her nipples respond quickly to my touch. she turns around, kissing me deeply while i get an euphoric dizziness in the head, no, in the entire body.

her panties are removed slowly. i feel her heat and moisture with one hand. we lie down on the bed in hot embrace and kissing. she climbs slowly over my body, kissing it and has, without my noticing, found a condom, which she puts on and she continues with a wet blowjob. with a few signals i get her turned into daty of mutual enjoyment. the smell and the taste is pure. we do this a while before she turns around and i slip into her (she's on top) while she kissed me passionately. it's always hard to tell if the enjoyment is mutual, but it seems so in this moment, and it is a total gfe, as she slowly rides me, bite my lip and looks me in the eyes.

we switch positions a few times before i pull out and come with great help from her mouth and hand. while i lie and sweats she helps me with the rubber and then comes to me and lie down close and kisses me. two sweaty bodies together. slowly the kissing becomes hotter and i'm ready for round two. paloma begins again with a fantastic blowjob. this time, i must stop her and get her in reverse cowgirl. like doggie, this position has a good vision of the woman's ass, while she also has full control of speed and depth. in an acrobatic maneuver i get her turned around so i'm on top, while i take her from behind. i push her down almost flat against the bed while she is pushing up her bum, so i can penetrate her deeply. i put my hands on her ass and it is obvious to heavy stuff for my little guy who gives up.

we lie close together as a couple in love. nurture each other's bodies. it is only now that i think of the time but paloma assures me there is plenty of it left. my head is thinking about another round, but my body says no. since time is slowly running out, i take another shower. return to the room, get dressed, and paloma walks me to the door, where we say goodbye with kisses on the cheek and a little hug. these 60 horizontal minutes with her and her smile when i leave will not leave my mind easily.

I could meet Felicia, Madeleine, Helene, Ella.

I failed to meet Jenifer.

When you ask for appointments, be careful about possibilities of confusion between Helene, Elena, Ella.

Felicia : cute! Cute! Cute!

Helene, Ella : hot! Hot! Hot! (by the way, both of them seemed appreciate DATY)

Felicia : [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/felic-e.htm[/url]

Madeleine : [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/madelai-e.htm[/url]

Helene : [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/helene.htm[/url]

Ella : [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/ella-e.htm[/url]

Personnaly, I find that Ella looks like French actress Claire Keim, girlfriend of Bixente Lizarazu (former member of "Bayern-Munchen" soccer team) : [url]http://www.google.fr/search?q=claire+keim+bixente&hl=fr&prmd=ivnso&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=9zTgTbLLLYbLhAe0mdm7Cg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBAQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=629[/url]

Left friends at a Museum, Saturday 10:15 am, no cash but only credit cards, only support the Iphone. 2 hours max to:

- find cash.

- figure out where to go.

- reach the place, session.

- go back to fetch the friends at the museum, smiling.

The only info I had handy was about Liberty, but the place opens at noon on Saturday, arghhhh. Checked Angus blog, jumped on Berlin intim, googled "brothel near alexander platz" and finally found some info on Tiffany, in Ritterstrasse 11. 3 subway stations from Alexander Platz or a 7 euro taxi ride.

Site looks fine, opens at 10, no time to loose, found a visa cash dispenser, took the taxi.

Access is pretty simple, ring at the door downstairs, get the lift at 4th floor, ring atthe door, all labeled "Tiffany", obviously.

A young fatty, english speaking girl opens the door wearing underwear and takes me through a nearby door where I was told she would let the girl parade so I can choose. Before that she asks me if I have any particular desire or if all girls would be fine. I answered no particular desires. I actually wasn't believing I actually made it to reach a place to session instead of breaking my balls at the Pergamon.

After that, a first girl enters. MILF, thin, very big synthetic boobs, blond short hair, at least 35. Good looking but absolutely not what I was looking for. Named Stefy, german from Berlin.

She leaves and I sit back, in the quite elegant room, waiting for next girl. Nothing happens.

After about a minute, the fatty girl from the entrance comes in smiling and says : "there's only me left, all other girls are booked, if you prefer you can come back later". WTF!

I wouldn't fuck the fatty even with my worst friend's dick and no time to leave the place and look for another so, Stefy.

Took a shower and went in a room, very nice room. She probably upsold a bit with the excuse of kisses and I ended up paying 80 euros, in advance, for a 40 min. Session with kissing.

I was probably the first customer, she really smelt like she just came out of the shower. Gave me a decent BBBJ and was quite sweet throughout the session. DATY. She said no cim but that I could come on her breasts, not something I like. Ended doggy.

A mediocre session that I actually appreciated a lot because of the situation. Took another shower, dressed up and 20 min after I was again in Alexander platz at the UBahn station.

Yesssss!

Tiffany looks like a nice place, very clean. I can't judge the lineup based on 2 girls but I suggest to call before you go there to check how many girls are available.

Flying back tomorrow morning. Sigh.

Kimino

Recently moved to Shoneberg where I discovered I was was exactly halfway between KDs and Liberty. Due to some great reviews here, I've been having myself quite a time at KDs (Sascha!) and now I am curious about Liberty. But I haven't seen too many specific recommendations other than for the place as a whole. Anyone had a great session there recently?

Anyone know any really tall women in Berlin, escort or in-house ladies?

At KD there's a couple. Coco 1, 83, Brigitte 1, 82.

Anyone taller? 8)

L.

[QUOTE=Kafka1;1160222]Recently moved to Shoneberg where I discovered I was was exactly halfway between KDs and Liberty. Due to some great reviews here, I've been having myself quite a time at KDs (Sascha!) and now I am curious about Liberty. But I haven't seen too many specific recommendations other than for the place as a whole. Anyone had a great session there recently?[/QUOTE]Hi,

Sorry I do not have much current info for Liberty. One girl I was very regular with was Romy. But be warned, she is not 19 as states the web page. More like mid twenties. But she is a nice and more importantly very dirty girl if you click with her.

For me Liberty has always been a cheaper alternative to places like KD and VK. More importantly is that they always seem to treat me well. If you chose reasonable carefully you should have a good time there.

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino;1160136]Left friends at a Museum, Saturday 10:15 am, no cash but only credit cards, only support the Iphone. 2 hours max to: Kimino[/QUOTE]K Man-I think you have proven a general rule. Artemis on the weekend is better (surely Sat). There is something about the private apartments staff that seems to make them want to have weekends free. At least the better ones.

Not just Tiffany's. True overall. Had you only asked.

[QUOTE=Lime73; 1160358]Anyone know any really tall women in Berlin, escort or in-house ladies?

At KD there's a couple. Coco 1, 83, Brigitte 1, 82.

Anyone taller? 8)

L. [/QUOTE]This girl is said to be 1. 84 M and I believe has had good reviews in the past.

[url]http://www.sexy-elfen.de/nora.html[/url]

I have no personal experience though.

AM

Guys,

I'll be visiting Berlin for the first time in a couple of weeks. Is BBBJ generally on offer at houses such as KD, Elfen, Ekstase etc?

Thanks,

KB

I've had two separate sessions at Harmonie: Kelly and Mandy. Their photos are blurred out on the website, but they are the two prettiest girls there. Meaning that I must be either very lucky or have access to Interpol-grade imaging software.

They were both young, friendly, sexy, and gave good tantra massages with HJ. Even so, I was a bit disappointed! Without sex, they need something special to justify their prices (€80 for 45 minutes) , and that something is the Jacuzzi. But it never materialized in either session. Furthermore, they have an unpleasant habit of cutting things short by 5-10 minutes.

It's not a smart move for them to skimp. Harmonie is up against stiff competition and I don't just mean the contents of my shorts. Ekstase is just around the corner. Personally I think I will stick with the tried-and-tested until Harmonie ups its game a bit.

[QUOTE=Kbkbal; 1161660]Guys,

I'll be visiting Berlin for the first time in a couple of weeks. Is BBBJ generally on offer at houses such as KD, Elfen, Ekstase etc?

Thanks,

KB[/QUOTE]Traditionally KD has been known as a non-BBBJ house. Recent reports say otherwise. I would not say then for sure, but possible.

Elfen-for sure.

Ekstase-is a massage house and does not offer any oral sex.

By and large all bordellos will offer it at least as a paid extra. Most massage houses will not offer any oral service.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1162140]Traditionally KD has been known as a non-BBBJ house. Recent reports say otherwise.[/QUOTE]Confirmed.

Many of the Berlin bordelles seem to be coming up with all sorts of promotions to counter the economic downturn. Perhaps KD are finding it difficult to maintain their house covered-BJ policy in the face of the competition?

Or maybe my uncovered dick was just too much for the girls to resist?

C

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1162187]Confirmed.

Many of the Berlin bordelles seem to be coming up with all sorts of promotions to counter the economic downturn. Perhaps KD are finding it difficult to maintain their house covered-BJ policy in the face of the competition?

Or maybe my uncovered dick was just too much for the girls to resist?

C[/QUOTE]Personnally, I think that it depends on the ladies : the standard is with condom but if some ladies prefer without condom (in my life, I already met women who didn't like the latex taste of condom, and I did buy condoms with fruit taste or chocolate taste!) , they are not forbidden to do that (furthermore, the fear of HIV is not the same as it was in the years 80-90 and young girls (and young boys who ask more and more for uncover BJ, for CIM, swallow .etc .) growed up without this fear (fellows who were born in these years 80-90 are now around 20-30 years old already and may be sex-workers).

By the way, if ever PURE means "without condom","new" Mercedes' page mentionned it explicitely :

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/mercedes-e.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1162303]Personnally, I think that it depends on the ladies : the standard is with condom but if some ladies prefer without condom (in my life, I already met women who didn't like the latex taste of condom, and I did buy condoms with fruit taste or chocolate taste!) , they are not forbidden to do that (furthermore, the fear of HIV is not the same as it was in the years 80-90 and young girls (and young boys who ask more and more for uncover BJ, for CIM, swallow. Etc.) growed up without this fear (fellows who were born in these years 80-90 are now around 20-30 years old already and may be sex-workers).

By the way, if ever PURE means "without condom","new" Mercedes' page mentionned it explicitely :

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/mercedes-e.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Angus, Charlie, Bobo, thanks for your replies. I'll definitely be checking out KD. Any recommendations? Could I also ask. Are places like Artemis any good?

[QUOTE=Kbkbal;1162475]Angus, Charlie, Bobo, thanks for your replies. I'll definitely be checking out KD. Any recommendations? Could I also ask. Are places like Artemis any good?[/QUOTE]Are places like Artemis any good? Hard question to answer in just a few words.

Yes, but you have to realize that it takes a little more time and effort to get the most bang for your euro. Ultimately though having the chance to speak and interact with the ladies in an FKK makes it a superior experience In my opinion.

A

Visted these two massage parlours and thought I'd write up some reports.

Being public holiday Thursday I struggled a bit finding some places that were open. Headed off to Thantawan first but noone answered the bell. Tried again at 12:00 and was informed by a guy in there no girls arrived yet and that they opened at 12:00. Put me off a bit meeting a guy in this context which I guess was running the place. Waiting outside from the corner I only saw 1 girl arriving. I thought that would not be a good selection of girls and also the uneasiness of having to book my massage through the "manager" which for me is very unsual.

Headed off to Harmoniemassagen and Alexandra opened the door:

[url]http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/images/girl13/girl.htm[/url]

It seemed to be a lazy day as I passed one girl resting on the couch. I choose Alexandra (from what I understood it was just Alexandra and this girl on the couch) Booked half hour with some oily spanish massage, great tits on Alexandra but unfourtnately she made herself little accessible for rubbing her pussy. Quite loud music during the massage and I was not offered a massage before or after the massage which I thought was very strange. Location okay, but very basic. I know I can't expect the level of a tantra institute but really. Being offered a shower is simply obligaotory. I did not get to splash her tits though I didn't ask explicitly either. But when you book a spanish massage cummin on her tits should be included. On the way out I now saw two girls resting on the couch. Not much business it seemed!

Today I was looking for another massage experience and tried to find some info about good asian massage places. What I'm looking for is in this regard is the more "innocent" place meaning it should not be sleazy / vulgar or get you to cum as soon as possible. I'm not looking for the "obvious place" but a place where I first get a very good massage from an asian girl and then integrates an enjoyable intimate massage in the session (maybe after asking me first when it comes to that and not demanding any extra cash) Maybe I'm asking too much? But it kind of loose much of the exictement when you book an "erotic massage" and its obvious for both parts what is going to happen. Well, no time to ask for advice on the forum as it was nearing closing time (but I still like advice for another day) so I headed off to Aphrodite massagen instead. Seemed to be only one girl there so not much to choose from: [url]http://www.aphrodite-massagen.de/galery_8.php[/url]

I chose half hour massage and was asked if I wanted the "kombi massage" or "gegenseitige massage". Not sure about the difference really but choose the "kombi massage" at 70€ (10€ more expensive than the other) Session felt very mechanical and more like "going through the motions". She was very quiet and didn't do much to create an erotic mood, no smiles during the massage or enjoyment to spot. Trying to rub her pussy she signaled for me to stop. Again no finishing on her tits. After using her boody a bit towards me she stood up and faced against me so I could only see her ass and not the face. The whole thing reminded me of the "bored eastern european girl" kind of girls which heads off as soon as I've finished leaving me to dry up my self. No cuddling, talk or anything.

Guess she was Russian as I heard her speaking Russian on the phone right after I finished. Only after the session I spotted a smile from her. Well, I can see that, she doesn't have to do more work as I've finished and she gotten my Euro so naturally she is happy. But lacheln / smiling / joyfulness / friendlyness from the start doesn't hurt to keep the customer happy!

Left the place feeling it didn't give value for more (10€ more would have given half an hour on KD in the company of a great girl) feeling empty but hungry. And somehow regretful I didn't spend my money on a tasty wagyu beef instead. .

Dissapointed from both these two places. (altough as you can see from the pics Alexandra is the one with the "good body" and the session with her was significantly better than the one at aphrodite massagen) Maybe I was just unlucky but I had a not too good experience in Aphfrodite massagen before from a different girl where I booked spanish massage and she confirmed it before handing over the money. But during the massage she said she would give me a optikmassage instead as she did not really fancy spanish massage!

I have a tantra massage booked for tomorrow and thats in a different league and which I feel certain will be very enjoyable as I've had many great tantra experiences in the past and its a more sensual and peaceful experience leaving me in a total different state of mind.

[QUOTE=Kbkbal;1162475]Angus, Charlie, Bobo, ..etc ... Are places like Artemis any good?[/QUOTE]Vote for Artemis :

Angus : +

Charlie :?

Bobo : -

In general I don't like much sauna clubs where I found that I wasted a lot of my time.

But I like sauna and I like sauna clubs that offer nice outdoor (for example Yin Yang in The Netherlands : [url]http://www.yinyang.nl/en/[/url] ). Artemis doesn't offer this possibility.

Furthermore Artemis is expensive comparing to Yin Yang or other sauna-clubs in the "NRW lander" (50 Euros for entrance and 75 Euros for one hour session while, with Artemis, if I remember well, the entrance fee is 80 Euros and one hour session will cost 120 Euros)

By the way, in one of my previous post ( [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1087728&viewfull=1#post1087728[/url] ), I already noticed that :
[i] 2 "hours" of sex in Artemis will cost 60 Euros * 4 = 240 Euros + 80 Euros (entrance) = 320 Euros = 2 hours of meeting at Kamilla-Dee [/i]
(Of course, KD doesn't offer sauna, meals, "swimming pool" .etc .)

[QUOTE=Merkur; 1162553]Headed off to Harmoniemassagen and Alexandra opened the door:

Being offered a shower is simply obligaotory.[/QUOTE]Merkur I had the same WTF. No shower. Also, I had a sense that they play mindgames there at Harmonie.

I've had worse. But I've had better.

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1162576]Vote for Artemis :

Angus : +

Charlie :?

Bobo :.

In general I don't like much sauna clubs where I found that I wasted a lot of my time.

But I like sauna and I like sauna clubs that offer nice outdoor (for example Yin Yang in The Netherlands :

[url]http://www.yinyang.nl/en/[/url]

). Artemis doesn't offer this possibility.

Furthermore Artemis is expensive comparing to Yin Yang or other sauna-clubs in the "NRW lander" (50 Euros for entrance and 75 Euros for one hour session while, with Artemis, if I remember well, the entrance fee is 80 Euros and one hour session will cost 120 Euros)

By the way, in one of my previous post (

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1087728&viewfull=1#post1087728[/url]

) , I already noticed that :

[i] 2 "hours" of sex in Artemis will cost 60 Euros * 4 = 240 Euros + 80 Euros (entrance) = 320 Euros = 2 hours of meeting at Kamilla-Dee [/i]

(Of course, KD doesn't offer sauna, meals,"swimming pool". Etc.) [/QUOTE]Angus and Bobo, thanks again. Apologies for all the questions. This is my first visit to Berlin, and I do appreciate your patience, guys. If you guys ever visit Bangkok, Hong Kong or Singapore do let me know if you need any information.

Angus. Discovered your excellent blog! Tried to send you a message there but not sure if it went through. The question I had is if you guys can recommend a good GFE escort, ideally a German girl in her twenties. That would round off my Berlin weekend as I shall be checking out Artemis as well as sampling a Tantric massage at Kashima.

Danke!

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1162588]Merkur I had the same WTF. No shower. Also, I had a sense that they play mindgames there at Harmonie.

I've had worse. But I've had better. [/QUOTE]Yes it was strange. Same thing always happens at Tiffany (I have to ask for the shower if I want one) I made a short visit to Tiffany bt the lineup was poor, like 3 girls, one who reminded me a bit of goofy, the cartoon character. (teeth and expression) I asked for Kelly bt she was booked for the day. Asked for Pia and the Hasmutti just locked at the clock in response. I said that I would come back some other time ("zürruckkommen") and got a bit rude response "und!" And then saying Kelly would still be busy and Pia not there. I thought to myself isn't it my business if I return later today hoping for a better parade or if I skip it to another day. I don't need to explain myself. I just said "jaja, andere Tag" before I was let out. Visited Tiffany quite a few times but most times with Pia. Though I feel the attitude from the management there is somehow lacking in friendlyness. Headed off to KD for a total different experience where I was warmly received, both by the lady of the house and the girls in the parade.

For better erotic massage experience Ekstase is the place. But since Christina stopped working there I haven't really returned (with one exception) Unfourtnenately Christina is nowhere to be found now (not to my knowledge at least)

[QUOTE=Kbkbal; 1162667]. Discovered your excellent blog! Tried to send you a message there but not sure if it went through. The question I had is if you guys can recommend a good GFE escort, ideally a German girl in her twenties. That would round off my Berlin weekend as I shall be checking out Artemis as well as sampling a Tantric massage at Kashima.

Danke! [/QUOTE]Finding a twenties German GFE will not be easy. First of all read the blog and maybe Charlie's recent post. With escorts you are really just rolling the dice unless you can come up with some solid intel. In Berlin the vast majority of twenties escorts in a reasonable price range will be EE or SE girls (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and if very luck, Russia or the Ukraine). All I can suggest is to comb the forum (Charlie has some good recommendations for escorts) and be prepared to drop the German condition. If you can find a girl in one of the may escort sites that says "nationality German" chances are she has at least spent a good portion of her life here and thus can pass for German. But no guarantees and no guarantee of the GFE.

Alternately you can spend a bit more and contact KD escort service (Kamilla Dee). See Bobo's post for advice here. But if you call them, tell them you want a German national I am sure that they will be able to help. It will however cost you more than €90.

Good Luck and no worries about the input you have received-as long as you write up your reports at the end of this all.

AM

[QUOTE=Merkur;1162705]For better erotic massage experience Ekstase is the place. But since Christina stopped working there I haven't really returned (with one exception) Unfourtnenately Christina is nowhere to be found now (not to my knowledge at least)[/QUOTE]Currently the best place for erotic massage, according to the German forum is Roxanna's massgae.

[url]http://roxana.rotlichtmodelle.de/galery.html[/url]

There are just two (sometimes three) ladies working there so do not expect to just show up. Make an appointment. Both the ladies pictured get universally enthusiastic write ups and are very, very popular. Here you will not get sex or even a blow job but, if you play your cards right, you will get just about everything else erotic.

Roxannas's is very high on my list of must do's.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1162735]Finding a twenties German GFE will not be easy. First of all read the blog and maybe Charlie's recent post. With escorts you are really just rolling the dice unless you can come up with some solid intel. In Berlin the vast majority of twenties escorts in a reasonable price range will be EE or SE girls (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and if very luck, Russia or the Ukraine). All I can suggest is to comb the forum (Charlie has some good recommendations for escorts) and be prepared to drop the German condition. If you can find a girl in one of the may escort sites that says "nationality German" chances are she has at least spent a good portion of her life here and thus can pass for German. But no guarantees and no guarantee of the GFE.

Alternately you can spend a bit more and contact KD escort service (Kamilla Dee). See Bobo's post for advice here. But if you call them, tell them you want a German national I am sure that they will be able to help. It will however cost you more than €90.

Good Luck and no worries about the input you have received-as long as you write up your reports at the end of this all.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks, Angus. I was going to give KD a go anyway (maybe Mercedes) so will call them when I get there.

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1162576]Vote for Artemis :

Angus : +

Charlie :? [/QUOTE]Artemis gets a ++ from me.

I go there most weeks, so I'm a big fan. As Angus suggests, to get the greatest benefit from an FKK experience requires a certain amount of strategy, self-confidence (either innate or acquired through experience) and various inter-personal skills. But the advantages of being able to spend a little time with the girls before you go to the room with them affords one a huge advantage over the bordelle scene. In a bordelle, the time window you get to choose your girl is hardly sufficient to determine whether you like her, let alone whether she likes you. At Artemis you get a proper chance to find out whether you both 'click', although there is still no absolute certainty of course.

I strongly recommend that, if you are sexually inquisitive in any way, that you try Artemis one time. If it's not for you, then you will have blown a small 3-figure sum. If you fall in love with the place you will be delighted that you gave it a chance, and over the next few years you will have the opportunity to blow a substantial 5-figure sum.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Merkur; 1162705]Yes it was strange. Same thing always happens at Tiffany (I have to ask for the shower if I want one) I made a short visit to Tiffany bt the lineup was poor, like 3 girls, one who reminded me a bit of goofy, the cartoon character. (teeth and expression) I asked for Kelly bt she was booked for the day. Asked for Pia and the Hasmutti just locked at the clock in response. I said that I would come back some other time ("zürruckkommen") and got a bit rude response "und!" And then saying Kelly would still be busy and Pia not there. I thought to myself isn't it my business if I return later today hoping for a better parade or if I skip it to another day. I don't need to explain myself. I just said "jaja, andere Tag" before I was let out. Visited Tiffany quite a few times but most times with Pia. Though I feel the attitude from the management there is somehow lacking in friendlyness. Headed off to KD for a total different experience where I was warmly received, both by the lady of the house and the girls in the parade.

For better erotic massage experience Ekstase is the place. But since Christina stopped working there I haven't really returned (with one exception) Unfourtnenately Christina is nowhere to be found now (not to my knowledge at least) [/QUOTE]I've been there just one time, coincidentially also with Pia (who was pretty good). This bordelle is a bit of a factory in my mind, and the sort of experience that you recount is not of great surprise to me. I think the way to get the best out of Tiffany's is to call in advance, make a booking with a specific girl from whom you know exactly what you want, arrive punctually and expect a business-like encounter with both the SP and the ancillary staff. With that as your M. O, I believe that one can have a good time at Tiffany's. If you want to be romanced, try somewhere else (KD, Monrouge or Artemis for example)

Best,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1162735]Finding a twenties German GFE will not be easy. First of all read the blog and maybe Charlie's recent post. With escorts you are really just rolling the dice unless you can come up with some solid intel. In Berlin the vast majority of twenties escorts in a reasonable price range will be EE or SE girls (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and if very luck, Russia or the Ukraine). All I can suggest is to comb the forum (Charlie has some good recommendations for escorts) and be prepared to drop the German condition. If you can find a girl in one of the may escort sites that says "nationality German" chances are she has at least spent a good portion of her life here and thus can pass for German. But no guarantees and no guarantee of the GFE.

Alternately you can spend a bit more and contact KD escort service (Kamilla Dee). See Bobo's post for advice here. But if you call them, tell them you want a German national I am sure that they will be able to help. It will however cost you more than €90.

Good Luck and no worries about the input you have received-as long as you write up your reports at the end of this all.

AM[/QUOTE]Spot on. I use the cheaper-end escort agencies semi-regularly and there are 5 or 6 that I have tried and found to be reliable and good value. You can search this thread and find my various reports if you wish.

German girls are in short supply via the agencies, especially at the lower end of the price spectrum. They won't work for those wages, and they don't need to give an agency the significant cut that the EE girls do.

You will find plenty of independents on the Berlin-intim website who are genuine German girls. I can't recommend any personally 'because I don't do independents. But your best bet would be to do as Angus suggests and call one of the established bordelles like KD or perhaps VK, and order a take-away.

Good luck,

Charlie.

P. S.. Why are you after a German girl? There's nothing wrong with German girls, but nothing terribly special about German SP's in my experience. They're not 'hotter' or 'dirtier' than any of the EE girls, or especially prettier either. Perhaps you should have a think about the reasons why you find yourself feeling attracted to the idea of a German girl, because the features you seek may be more widely available than you imagine.

Hi guys,

I read the last 12pages, I see that King George is not that good, seems there is only one good who is any good and the rest are pretty crappy? Anyone care to shed any updates on that?

I'm torn between either King George or the [url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de.[/url]

As I'm on a budget and tend only to spend one day of going to either one of them.

Anyone have any reviews on Kit Kat club or Insomnia, didn't find anything in the last 10 pages of this thread.

[QUOTE=Voyer1; 1162845]Hi guys,

I read the last 12pages, I see that King George is not that good, seems there is only one good who is any good and the rest are pretty crappy? Anyone care to shed any updates on that?

I'm torn between either King George or the.

[url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de.[/url]

As I'm on a budget and tend only to spend one day of going to either one of them.

Anyone have any reviews on Kit Kat club or Insomnia, didn't find anything in the last 10 pages of this thread. [/QUOTE]The King George is what it is. Not terrible but not great either. It is cheap and you will get laid there.

Try over in the party tref threads for material on Insomnia. There is no specific thread for it (or for Berlin for that matter) but I am certain there are reviews there.

You may have to dig a bit.

AM

Poor man's sex:

Freudenhaus. Mechanical attitudes. Working man's club.

King George. Bad attitudes. Tourist trap.

Tomsen. Good attitudes if you pick carefully.

[url]http://www.bundesallee128.de/html/preise.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Voyer1; 1162845]Hi guys,

I read the last 12pages, I see that King George is not that good, seems there is only one good who is any good and the rest are pretty crappy? Anyone care to shed any updates on that?

I'm torn between either King George or the.

[url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de.[/url]

As I'm on a budget and tend only to spend one day of going to either one of them. [/QUOTE]

Thanks, Charlie, will check your reports. Specifically a German girl simply because I like to keep a count and Germany is one country I'm yet to properly put a tick against.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1162796]Spot on. I use the cheaper-end escort agencies semi-regularly and there are 5 or 6 that I have tried and found to be reliable and good value. You can search this thread and find my various reports if you wish.

German girls are in short supply via the agencies, especially at the lower end of the price spectrum. They won't work for those wages, and they don't need to give an agency the significant cut that the EE girls do.

You will find plenty of independents on the Berlin-intim website who are genuine German girls. I can't recommend any personally 'because I don't do independents. But your best bet would be to do as Angus suggests and call one of the established bordelles like KD or perhaps VK, and order a take-away.

Good luck,

Charlie

P. S. Why are you after a German girl? There's nothing wrong with German girls, but nothing terribly special about German SP's in my experience. They're not 'hotter' or 'dirtier' than any of the EE girls, or especially prettier either. Perhaps you should have a think about the reasons why you find yourself feeling attracted to the idea of a German girl, because the features you seek may be more widely available than you imagine. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1162795]I've been there just one time, coincidentially also with Pia (who was pretty good). This bordelle is a bit of a factory in my mind, and the sort of experience that you recount is not of great surprise to me. I think the way to get the best out of Tiffany's is to call in advance, make a booking with a specific girl from whom you know exactly what you want, arrive punctually and expect a business-like encounter with both the SP and the ancillary staff. With that as your M. O, I believe that one can have a good time at Tiffany's. If you want to be romanced, try somewhere else (KD, Monrouge or Artemis for example)

Best,

Charlie[/QUOTE]Yes I think this is a good way to deal with it and the same thing can be said about VK I think. KD is indeed a good place to be romanced and acutally I made two visit to KD the last days. The first one was was with Helene. She made great impression in the vostellung and has a beautiful face. I was especially taken by that playful smile she gave me in the parade, and on the way out from the parade looking back at me with that "special look". It seems Helene is very new in KD and I thought it showed off in the session. I noticed she tried really hard though repeated expressions such as "my baby" and "I'm so happy my baby" could be a bit too much if you know what I mean and doesn't seem quite believable. But she is tender and kisses. She needs some training on handling a cock with her hand though but this count for a lot of girls.

During that visit with Helene I passed a naked girl in the hallway as I was returning from the shower and I knew I had to meet her too. I wasnt sure who it was as she quickly went to the side or back to the room but looking on the website after my return that day I thought it was Felicia. I noticed in the calender Felicia would be there the next day so made by booking when the day came and luckily was able to book a session 30 minutes later so I didn't have to walk too much in the streets in this crazy Berlin heat. As apposed to Helene Felicia is a german girl with big tits and a sympatic face. Very friendly and also kisses. She got quite carried away during the blowjob and I had to stop as as not to cum in the condom. Moved over to missionary position where she also had good enthusiasm until I came.

Maybe you coincidently met any of these two girls as well, Charlie? BTW, I share your opinion about Pia at Tiffany. I think I met her 3 or 4 times. She does put on a show and wouldn't exactly say she is GFE, but she's always been professional and friendly and I never caught her in a bad mood. Also takes the cumshot to the face with no complaints.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1162796]P. S.. Why are you after a German girl? There's nothing wrong with German girls, but nothing terribly special about German SP's in my experience. They're not 'hotter' or 'dirtier' than any of the EE girls, or especially prettier either. Perhaps you should have a think about the reasons why you find yourself feeling attracted to the idea of a German girl, because the features you seek may be more widely available than you imagine.[/QUOTE]German girls are not hotter than the immigrants, but they can be of better quality in some respects. There are broadly two types of German girl working in the bordellos:

1. The well-educated girl who is culturally aware and may have another job. She was brought up in a sexually liberal society, without the hangups of so many other countries. Meeting you is a sort of paying hobby for her. She is interested to learn new things. She is open to other cultures and different experiences. She may have travelled to other countries for vacations or as a student.

2. The hardened proletarian, worn out by constant meaningless sex and deeply embedded in her own local culture. To her, you are not really worthy of sex if you are not a German. And even if you are she always wants to nail things down to a fixed procedure. In her mind she clutches for safety by putting limits and rules on everything.

[QUOTE=Kbkbal; 1162667]. Etc. The question I had is if you guys can recommend a good GFE escort, ideally a German girl in her twenties.

Etc. [/QUOTE]OK, my opinion is :

1) you want GFE + girl in her twenties : OK, but how old are you? I mean if you have the age of her father or grand father, GFE will not be impossible but won't be so easy, especially for young girls starting in this profession!

2) German girl + GFE escort : I don't know which is your budget but a "high level" (and, of course, expensive) German escort agency is [url]http://www.venusescorts.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1162854]The King George is what it is. Not terrible but not great either. It is cheap and you will get laid there.

Try over in the party tref threads for material on Insomnia. There is no specific thread for it (or for Berlin for that matter) but I am certain there are reviews there.

You may have to dig a bit.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks, if you had the choice out the two which one would you go too and why?

At the KG do you just go upto anyone you want a session with, or do they come up too you? From what I've read you sit at the bar and the women comes too you?

[QUOTE=Voyer1; 1162921]Thanks, if you had the choice out the two which one would you go too and why?

At the KG do you just go upto anyone you want a session with, or do they come up too you? From what I've read you sit at the bar and the women comes too you? [/QUOTE]If you look up my rather extensive review of the King George I think I said just about all there is to say (from me anyway) about the KG. Why repeat myself?

A

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1162864]King George. Bad attitudes. Tourist trap.

L][/QUOTE]Have you ever been there? The KG is many things, flea pit among them, but it could never be described as a tourist trap. The girls there, as inexperienced as they are, are at least trying. That much is obvious. The KG is more like a neighbourhood place that tries desperately to be upscale but fails miserably.

It is not without charm.

AM

[QUOTE=Kbkbal;1162871]Thanks, Charlie, will check your reports. Specifically a German girl simply because I like to keep a count and Germany is one country I'm yet to properly put a tick against.[/QUOTE]Why not bang a German girl at Artemis then? It is not hard at all to find a decent German girl prowling the carpets of Artemis. Charlie might even be able to point you in the right direction to a GFE.

It is just that the Berlin escort scene is rife with difficulty. Adding the stipulation that she be German....

That said, this Venus escorts Bobo linked us to, Stacy would fit the bill.

[url]http://www.venusescorts.com/en/escortservice/berlin/gallery/stacy/photos[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1163011]Why not bang a German girl at Artemis then? It is not hard at all to find a decent German girl prowling the carpets of Artemis. Charlie might even be able to point you in the right direction to a GFE.

It is just that the Berlin escort scene is rife with difficulty. Adding the stipulation that she be German.

That said, this Venus escorts Bobo linked us to, Stacy would fit the bill.

[url]http://www.venusescorts.com/en/escortservice/berlin/gallery/stacy/photos[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Bobo. Many thanks for the link. I'm 39 but am fortunate enough to look like I'm in my late twenties / early thirties so I'd have been ok on the age-front! However, having seen the rates on the Venus website, I think I will follow Angus' advice and look for a German girl at Artemis.

[QUOTE=Merkur;1162872]Maybe you coincidently met any of these two girls as well, Charlie? BTW, I share your opinion about Pia at Tiffany. I think I met her 3 or 4 times. She does put on a show and wouldn't exactly say she is GFE, but she's always been professional and friendly and I never caught her in a bad mood. Also takes the cumshot to the face with no complaints.[/QUOTE]No I didn't meet either of the two girls you mention, but I've put them both on the shortlist for future visits. Thanks for the recommendations.

'Also takes the cumshot to the face with no complaints'. Indeed. The CoF option was the reason I booked Pia, and she delivered this service in good grace.

Best,

C

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1163008]Have you ever been there? The KG is many things, flea pit among them, but it could never be described as a tourist trap. The girls there, as inexperienced as they are, are at least trying. That much is obvious. The KG is more like a neighbourhood place that tries desperately to be upscale but fails miserably.

It is not without charm.

AM[/QUOTE]Actually, Angus, I'm not sure that I agree with you.

We went together, and as such we protected ourselves to some degree from being 'tourist-trapped'. We are both also pretty experienced campaigners, and as such we were perfectly able to take control of the situation and dictate the course of our evening. I could easily imagine a less experienced monger visiting alone and being led a merry dance by some of the girls there and basically getting ripped off. On that basis, I do see KG as potentially a tourist trap in a way that Artemis or KD for instance would not be.

KG would not be a place that I would recommend to a novice mongerer.

Having said that, we had a great evening and I would go again, but probably not alone.

Best,

C

[QUOTE=Kbkbal;1163022]However, having seen the rates on the Venus website, I think I will follow Angus' advice and look for a German girl at Artemis.[/QUOTE]That's good advice. If I was particularly looking to bang a German girl, Artemis would be the place I'd go. Only about 10% of the girls there are actually German though, so you will have to conduct a number of interviews before you find one with the requisite nationality.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1163008]Have you ever been there? The KG is many things, flea pit among them[/QUOTE]I certainly have been there. Actually I don't consider King George to be all that dirty. You should see some of the dives I've been to in Asia and South America.

No, it's the attitude that stinks. I tried three girls, just to be sure I wasn't making a mistake. They were ALL switch-girls.

I can still remember one of those Romanians who started talking about her sad life in the room. She was doing everything short of weeping. Maybe I just seemed like the kind of guy who would lend a sympathetic ear. But the truth is, I didn't understand much. I just thought, I'd rather be in a place where the girls enjoy what they're doing. There are plenty of those in Berlin. It's a case of: what kind of environment do you want to encourage?

Furthermore at €99 King George is not really that cheap any more. Compare that to €35-60 at a place like Tomsen, which has a wider range of nationalities (including Germans) and better attitudes.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1163138]The CoF option was the reason I booked Pia, and she delivered this service in good grace.

C[/QUOTE]I remember she said something like "spritz mich voll" so she was asking for it. Quite a sexy thing to see her face splattered in cum, even running down the lips (though she doesn't do CIM as far as I know) Can you recommend me any other girls in Berlin that does CoF well? Unfourtenately there won't be time this trip as I'm leaving early tomorrow but would be nice to have an option or two for my next trip. I managed to waste lot of time today and didn't go for another session. I was out and in a horny mood just as that crazy thunderstorm with extremely heavy rain hit Berlin today. Got soaking wet and in the end managed to stop a taxi and got back to my hotel. Then remembered I hadn't eaten since breakfast so went for a dinner. Now its a bit late to start any new project as most places are closed. But I did have a tantramassage yesterday and will write a report about it here.

@Angus I read your report of KG, quite good, some questions though.

You mention if its your first visit to a brothel / bordello not to visit KG if you lack experience, why is this? Is it that they will try and take our money (I. E make us buy them drinks etc etc).

Me and my friend are in our mid twenties and quite good looking, would this swing in our favour whatsoever? Any tips on talking, you mention that you talked a good game, what do people usually talk about? As I don't want to say something stupid.

If you ask a girl to go into a room, can they decline?

If you blow your load in a few mins (I most likely will) , is the session over? Or do you carry on after a few mins? What is the "standard procedure" in spots like that.

Sorry if basic questions just looking for the low down so I know what to expect.

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1137645]Finally had a chance to check out this small brothel near Friedrich-Wilhelm-Platz U-Bahn. Went down the steps into the "bargain basement". Tomsen is a cheapish place but not a rip-off joint. There were only two girls there when I arrived. One of them seemed doable, so I picked her. The price there is 50 Euros for 30 minutes.

Helen from Frankfurt turned out to have a nice personality. As we got into it, I realized she was only honestly a 6 in looks, but she made up for it in enthusiasm. Kind of like I was her only client that day and she was determined to make the most of it. She gave me a great BJ, albeit covered. I had to stop her before I came, and we had sex in many crazy positions. She was a bit loose, so I didn't come until afterwards. But she was laughing a lot and got quite wet and I would say we both had a good time. Only one false note: a few times in the heat of passion she would move her face to kiss me, and then suddenly stop as if remembering something and turn it away again, which felt kind of weird.

Although I probably wouldn't repeat with that girl, I think it was value for money. I would go back to Tomsen now and again to see if they had a better lineup, while being prepared to move on if not.[/QUOTE]Whats the score with this place, can you carry on once you blow your load? Or is the time up?

Usually I go to a FKK because you can get to know the girls a little before the action starts and if you want to, you can get some kind of an erotic massage, too. That's why I've never been to a dedicated massage parlor before where the sex option is not available.

When I called Harmoniemassagen they told me about six names on the phone. Upon arrival 30 minutes later, they explained the rules (no sex, no blowjob) and three girls were presented to me: Mandy, Bella and Kelly.

Mandy had a very welcoming smile and absolutely convincing C-cups. Website says she's 20 years old, could be true. Bella looked a bit hardened to me, maybe she offers more than the basics. Kelly looked actually quite sweet, too, but I'd already decided to go with Mandy.

[url]http://harmoniemassagen.de/images/girl05/girl.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1161807]I've had two separate sessions at Harmonie: Kelly and Mandy. Their photos are blurred out on the website, but they are the two prettiest girls there. Meaning that I must be either very lucky or have access to Interpol-grade imaging software. They were both young, friendly, sexy, and gave good tantra massages with HJ.[/QUOTE]I paid 100 Euros to her for one hour and then asked for the jacuzzi. Mandy explained that a fire destroyed most of their rooms including all jacuzzi rooms. They will be rebuilt / repaired in a few weeks. Showers are not available at the moment for the same reason, only a very simple bathroom. The massage room was facing the street with the windows blinded (however, some noise from cars). The bed was too short for me and I'm not especially tall at 184cm, that's 6'0" or 6'1" if I remember correctly.

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1161807]Without sex, they need something special to justify their prices (€80 for 45 minutes) , and that something is the Jacuzzi. But it never materialized in either session.[/QUOTE]The massage was actually pretty good: I prefer a softer massage and that's exactly what she did. Her natural breasts and nice nipples were great for body2body and I finally covered them with my germs, oops, sperms.

About 45 minutes were spent by then and I refused a finishing quick handjob but asked for some relaxing non-sexual massaging which she gladly did. She was never rushing throughout the session and spent exactly 60 minutes with me (there's a clock in the room).

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1161807]Furthermore, they have an unpleasant habit of cutting things short by 5-10 minutes.[/QUOTE]My overall impression is that I whenever I want to spend some hours or a full day in an erotic environment I'll stick to FKKs but if I'm short on time I'll definitely go to a massage parlor again. Mandy did a good job but the rooms failed to meet my expectations, I especially missed the jacuzzi. There are some basic restaurants nearby and during the summer time people sitting outside the restaurant will see you entering Harmoniemassagen. Parking my car was no problem, public transport is nearby, too.

Maybe I should give Ekstase a try.

Note: Many years ago I was born in Germany and still speak German like a native speaker. All conversation at Harmoniemassagen was in German and therefore I have no idea how good / bad they cope with English speaking customers. Even more important, they thought I'm a local from Berlin and might become a returning, regular visitor. Wherever you go in the world, this "returning customer" thing often makes a significant difference in the quality of service. As always: YMMV.

[QUOTE=Voyer1;1163332]You mention if its your first visit to a brothel / bordello not to visit KG if you lack experience, why is this? Is it that they will try and take our money (I. E make us buy them drinks etc etc).[/QUOTE]Well as Charlie pointed out, he and I (we visited together last summer) are experienced punters. I at least (I can not say for Charlie) have been ripped off a number of times over the years. So I tend to know, or at least am able to control my own libido in a situation like this. I did not experience, or see evidence of, the drink buying game at the KG. That does not mean it is not there. But all you have to know is that once you pay €100 you are buying unlimited (or at least a reasonable number) of punts and drinks. After that it is up to you not to get shit faced and do something stupid.

Early twenties? Unlimited booze? Women? Be careful is all I say.

[QUOTE=Voyer1;1163332]Me and my friend are in our mid twenties and quite good looking, would this swing in our favour whatsoever? Any tips on talking, you mention that you talked a good game, what do people usually talk about? As I don't want to say something stupid.[/QUOTE]If you are good looking and charming and have paid to get in this can do you no harm. Unless you come across as arrogant or behave like and ass. These girls are hookers. They do not care that much if you are young and good looking. If you are polite, not too drunk and charming this will go a lot further.

You are not obliged to tip, however, they do have this little tip game with the dollar tickets in the KG. It does not hurt, nor does it break the bank to play along. With in reason.

[QUOTE=Voyer1;1163332]If you ask a girl to go into a room, can they decline?[/QUOTE]No doubt yes if you give her a good reason. Practically it is not likely.

[QUOTE=Voyer1;1163332]If you blow your load in a few mins (I most likely will) , is the session over? Or do you carry on after a few mins? What is the "standard procedure" in spots like that.[/QUOTE]In a situation such as the KG probably cumming will signal the end of the session. Unless she sort of likes you and you sense she wants a bit of a snog.

If you want a girl to stay with you the whole time, say for an hour, better pay a bit more and go to a reputable bordello. Usually, at least in the better ones, you pay for an hour, you get an hour. If you cum once quickly you will most likely be able to go again in that hour. The KG situation is just a different sort of arrangement. The girl will probably want to get back out to hang with her friends. You can always head out and chose a different girl.

Lastly, flat rate clubs are not places to go if you are looking for more intimate GFE type sex. They are down and dirty, in the room, out of the room and then again, type places. Know what you are looking for and go for that to avoid disappointment and regret.

AM

[b]EDIT[/b] P.S. if you are early twenties and have a bt of cash why not try the many bars of Mitte and look for some freebie action? I mean no doubt you could do better than the KG crew. Then you could come back here, report and gloat about it to us older guys. Just a suggestion.

[QUOTE=Merkur; 1163305]Can you recommend me any other girls in Berlin that does CoF well? QUOTE]Sina@Celine69 is one that I can recommend from personal experience.

C

Greetings everyone,

Long time lurker on this forum but somewhat of a newcomer to the wide world of mongering. I'm particularly interested in the quintessential pornstar experience, a finish that includes a mix of both CIM and COF. Having lived in Berlin for close to 3 years, I'm know the bordello names and locations but up until rather recently was able to resist the allure. That pandora's box has now been opened and I find myself looking for this aforementioned mix of CIM and COF. Can anyone suggest some girls and would there be an expectation that I pay for both as extras? Any suggestions would be well received.

Best,

Nanuq

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1163589][b]EDIT[/b] P.S. if you are early twenties and have a bt of cash why not try the many bars of Mitte and look for some freebie action? I mean no doubt you could do better than the KG crew. Then you could come back here, report and gloat about it to us older guys. Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]Ha if it was that easy I would not be on here. Unless German girls are easy?

Thanks for the long replay, I got alot of info. Think I will end up going King George unless my friend disagrees with me, due to me prob lasting no longer then 2 mins unless I'm drunk.

Just one more question (for now)

1) you said when the women asked you to buy them drinks you rebuffed?

Rebuffed.

Verb: Reject (someone or something) in an abrupt or ungracious manner.

Am I right to assume you said it in a firm angry manner? Would this not have a negative effect? When a women usually asks me to buy her a drink, I laugh and make a joke about it (and don't buy her one).

While mongering I spend most of my time in SEA or LAM. However, based on my very few visits to Berlin I have to say that "what I have got" has exceeded my expectations.

Blond is not my thing, but I often choose blond in berlin because it is different to my regular "diet". Compared to everything the world has an offer, I would say Berlin has a pretty good selection of girls available for our hobby.

[QUOTE=WsgJack2;1163523]Note: Many years ago I was born in Germany and still speak German like a native speaker. All conversation at Harmoniemassagen was in German and therefore I have no idea how good / bad they cope with English speaking customers. Even more important, they thought I'm a local from Berlin[/QUOTE]OK I can believe that, but maybe they should put a sign up outside, something like "We prefer Germans".

There is an international language of touch to be found at Ekstase.

[QUOTE=Voyer1; 1163758]Rebuffed.

Verb: Reject (someone or something) in an abrupt or ungracious manner.

Am I right to assume you said it in a firm angry manner? Would this not have a negative effect? When a women usually asks me to buy her a drink, I laugh and make a joke about it (and don't buy her one). [/QUOTE]Ahhh. Don't take me too literally here. I use words as a writer and it has more to do with my understanding, not perhaps the literal meaning, For me rebuffed simply means deflected. Without the "abrupt and ungracious". I forget that not everyone here speaks English perfectly and might then have to use a dictionary, thus getting the literal meaning of the word. In this situation it is always better to be as gracious as possible.

AM

If I was in my twenties and had a little cash, be following AMs advice.

There is some hot stuff out there and most of them are really nice. Be careful to realise that most of these German girls will be offended by direct payment. They extract in other ways.

You seem to have an issue with cumming quickly. This was more of an issue when I was younger but I was often able to repeat rapidly and go for a long time on the second round. This is better suited to freebies IMHO.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1163589][b]EDIT[/b] P.S. if you are early twenties and have a bt of cash why not try the many bars of Mitte and look for some freebie action? I mean no doubt you could do better than the KG crew. Then you could come back here, report and gloat about it to us older guys. Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]

Anyone been here? Seems like good value. Will report if I'm there this weekend.

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph; 1159816]This day there are six girls in the parade. Paloma (

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/paloma.htm[/url]

These 60 horizontal minutes with her and her smile when I leave will not leave my mind easily. [/QUOTE]There are much better girls at KD. To stop more people being misdirected and wasting their hard-earned cash, I must point out that Paloma from Naples is about ten years older than her pictures and description. She has small saggy breasts, a thickening waist, and a jaded attitude. Maybe she is hotter than the girls in Denmark, Bobby, but she would be my last choice at KD to go with again.

My first vist to Berlin since November and though a short one managed to carry out some mongering activity.

First port of call, as is now customary, was Liberty. Went in around 5pm. Was introduced to about six or seven girls. A good line up and all dooable. It was my seventh or eighth visit to this establishment and this increases the liklehood of having girls in the line up who you have seen before. To be honest, all the ones I've seen have been recomendable though of course you hit it off with some better than other. Lisa was one of the gals who introduced herself. I'd seen before and and she looked in fine shape and would recommend but I don't want to start getting in the habit of feeling obliged to commit to gals that I've been acquainted with before as while this may be wise in a hit or miss Bordello, you might as well try a wide variation in the quality places as disappointments are likely to be the exception. Girl from next doorish Pia was very tempting but I ended up selecting Michelle, another homely type.

Michelle looks 23-25, blonde, naturally good looking and dosen't need or wear loads of make up. Small breasted but has something about her. She took me to one of the rooms downstairs. It was the first time I'd been downstairs in Liberty but this was the best room I'd been in. Large and Luxurious. I asked her what services she offers and she said ' everything'. This got my blood up as she has a bubbly character, but not a tarty one and is the type you could imagine fundraising for the local Church. Which makes it all the more delightful that she is pleasantly filthy.

I choose 45 min at 80 Euro + 10 for kissing and +50 for anal as it's something what appeals with girl from next door types. A total of 140 but ultimately worth it. Accepted the offer of a shower as I was soaked in sweat within 20 minuites of landing in the country earlier in the afternoon and any change would have been pointless such was the humidity. Had also strolled there from Zoologischer Garten as its a walk I like and prefer it to getting off the train at Nollendorf Platz.

We spent the first ten minuites with tongue in each others mouths with me gyrating my dick on her bod. She then gave me a fine BJ and I was so worked up that I took one of her black stockeys off and kissed licked and half shoved it in my mouth in a controlled frenzy of adulation! I then turned her over and after she put some lube on my (covered, off course) dick, I bummed her and shot my load.

She then went and brought me an ice cold Fanta and aked if I would be ready for another pop as there was still plenty of time left. I said I was too knacked so we finished with a massage.

Michelle is Polish, hard to fault and perfect for the GFE and PSE mix. From what she was telling me about herself I got the impression that she has a lesbian lover in her private life and that they will shortly be on a short holiday back home in Poland, swimming and cycling.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/michelle.html[/url]

On leaving Liberty I routinely visit Rosado, the Argentinian restaurant on the roundabout at the end of Martin Luther Strasse. It's run by Turks and I'm though I'm normally one who thinks an Argentinine restaurant should be run by Argentines, an Italian restaurant by Italians ect. This to me is a real feelgood factor place though whether thats because I've just been laid, or the food, or both, I've no idea.

On Thursday I had a short list of four venues to choose from. Salon Prestige and Van Kampen, both of which I'd visited before and been satisfied with; and Rheinsberger 78 and Tomsen, neither of which I'd been to. First port of call was Rheinsberger 78 as I'd gone there in November only to find a buzzer outside with different names on that seemed to have nothing much to do with brothels. This time I decided that I would walk under the archway into the courtyard to see if I could locate it but now found that the large double wooden doors leading from the street to the courtyard were closed and all you had was the buzzer with ten different surnames or businesses on. Having spent early morning doing touristy stuff in Treptower Park, followed by a resturant meal, it was now midday and I had to be at the Airport in four hours so could not keep dilly dallying so decided on Tompsen.

Got the U Bahn from nearby Bernauer Strasse to Alexanderplatz, then to Zoologisher Garten, then the U9 from Zoo, getting off at Friedrich Wilheim Platz. Tomsen is easy to find on the adjacent Bundesalee, the entrance in view to passers by. I was let in by a edlerlyish Thai lady who showed me to a smallish room. There was just two girls on shift (there are only six in all) , one an Oceanic girl, the other a tall late twenties blonde called Sarah who I picked. Sarah has tattoes, but is reasionable attractive though older then the picture on the website which has been enhanced. She drew my attention to what I could only describe as a menu on the wall. I selected 40 mins for 75 Euro + 10 for kissing + 20 to cum on her face. It all went a bit awry. Lying on the bed french kissing and rubbing my dick on her belly, then thighs with my legs wrapped around one of hers I ended up shooting my load, half on her belly and crotch and half on mine. So with 30 mins left she cleaned herself and me up, lied besides me again and started talking about music. She then began working my cock again, switching between BJ and HJ for 15 mins at least. I'd almost given up but finally found a bit of life and shot some juice over her lower chin and neck.

Sarah told me she was born in the old East Germany and has a Polish mother. She told has also lived in Hamburg for eight years. A bit on the mechanical side, Sarah has the aura of a long experienced pro and although I never hit it off with her as I did with Michelle, she worked hard in an awkward situation, has excellent manners, and is a does what she says on the tin lady and I would imagine her being a popular choice there. As I've said, she is a decent looker but not as good as the touched up pic and is probably five yaers older than the 23 on the website.

[url]http://www.bundesallee128.de/html/modelle.php[/url]

Tomsen does not have the grandeur of the likes of Liberty, Van Kampen ect. On the plus side I was given my full quota of time but against this and despite the weather, I was not asked whether I wanted to shower which would have been preferable even taken off the 40 mins. Would not rule out going there again but others would be higher on the list.

Next mongering for me will prob be in Cologne / Dusseldorf next month followed by a return to the capital in August which I'm already looking forward to.

[QUOTE=The Limey;1164740]There are much better girls at KD. To stop more people being misdirected and wasting their hard-earned cash, I must point out that Paloma from Naples is about ten years older than her pictures and description. She has small saggy breasts, a thickening waist, and a jaded attitude. Maybe she is hotter than the girls in Denmark, Bobby, but she would be my last choice at KD to go with again.[/QUOTE]What The Fuck?

This is getting very, very close to a personal attack which is way out of place in this thread. Even if the girl is resembling a lizard (which I doubt) , the OP wrote up his review and presumably it was accurate to his knowledge. For you to come here and try to undermine it only renforces what I said over on the Art thread about your trollish behaviour. Other member can read his review, go to KD, or not, and make their own decision.

Like I say. What The Fuck.

There is more I could say but won't so as not to feed you. As far as I am concerned you have now officially entered troll territory and I will treat your posts as such. Unless an apology to Bobby, and the board is forth coming.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1164896]What The Fuck?

This is getting very, very close to a personal attack which is way out of place in this thread. [/QUOTE]Anybody who reads my post can see that I meant no attack on Bobby. I have nothing against Bobby. This was a simple and ordinary difference of opinion about a girl, of which there are many examples on the forum. I doubt that Bobby would be offended unless goaded by yourself.

By contrast, your treatment of me, Angus, has been in the nature of a personal attack. Instead of simply discussing our differences intelligently and reasonably, you have chosen to stick a label on me, by which you hope to dismiss all my past and future posts. This is far too easy for you to do.

I think most people reading this thread would prefer to see a range of ideas and opinions so they can judge for themselves, rather than have posters driven off if they violate the orthodoxy and expose the truth (which is what my post on Paloma was doing).

Thanks for a very nice report. I plan to check out Liberty very soon. Michelle sounds like a gem. Any other girls at Liberty whom you have already seen that you'd recommend?

Cheers,

WW

[QUOTE=Woof Woof;1164943]Thanks for a very nice report. I plan to check out Liberty very soon. Michelle sounds like a gem.[/QUOTE]I was also with Michelle, quite some time ago now when she worked at Salon Prestige. I can confirm Oliver's report. She is a sweetie, a top performer-and a little homely. ;)


Well worth the investment.



AM

I know there's an "ignore list" command or something that I imagine will filter from my view all posts from selected forum members.

Anyone can point me in the right direction? I can't find where to set this up.

Best

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1164981]I know there's an "ignore list" command or something that I imagine will filter from my view all posts from selected forum members.

Anyone can point me in the right direction? I can't find where to set this up.

Best[/QUOTE]Hi K,

Go to your inbox (pms) and on the left you see under my settings / my account "edit ignore list". Click that and you can add names of people whose posts you don't want to see. Their posting appears than with a note that they are on your ignore list.

A

[QUOTE=Woof Woof; 1164943]Thanks for a very nice report. I plan to check out Liberty very soon. Michelle sounds like a gem. Any other girls at Liberty whom you have already seen that you'd recommend?

Cheers,

WW[/QUOTE]Hi,

Of the girls who are still on the website, I've seen Kelly and Lisa, along with Michelle.

Kelly speaks in native estuary English, but told me she is Danish (perhaps Polish though). Another girl from next door type without a slutty aura. Slams you hard riding cowgirl and according to other reports does more than is listed on the website.

Lisa looks not totally unlike WTA player Alona Bondarenko, is quite reserved, and has a housewife aura about her. She lets you jizz on her bod, no AV or cum on face, but is pleasant if you just want a relaxing shag. If I was being picky she kept making cooing noises and her English is as bad as my German.

Would not put you off any of them but the place seems full of quality types and I'd just go down and see who takes your fancy, though I was glad my opinion of Michelle was confirmed by Angus as opinions vary and you sometimes question your own judgement.

Good Luck

So just to be clear:

1. You dispute Bobby's assessment.

2. You make a statement against Denmark and Danish girls.

3. You make a statement about Paloma, which is your opinion. She clearly did something for Bobby and others on the forum.

4. You now claim to be maligned and misunderstood.

Seems like a case of YMMV really overstated. The problem with your statement is not content or disagreement, its the fact that you discourage Bobby and others from posting. Bobby's post was a good one. I am free to take or leave it. I would encourage him to post again so there is a variety of opinion and experience.

We may nominate you to get your our thread so you can post to yourself...

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1164918]Anybody who reads my post can see that I meant no attack on Bobby. I have nothing against Bobby. This was a simple and ordinary difference of opinion about a girl, of which there are many examples on the forum. I doubt that Bobby would be offended unless goaded by yourself.

By contrast, your treatment of me, Angus, has been in the nature of a personal attack. Instead of simply discussing our differences intelligently and reasonably, you have chosen to stick a label on me, by which you hope to dismiss all my past and future posts. This is far too easy for you to do.

I think most people reading this thread would prefer to see a range of ideas and opinions so they can judge for themselves, rather than have posters driven off if they violate the orthodoxy and expose the truth (which is what my post on Paloma was doing). [/QUOTE]

Seems there is a new brothel opening up in the old Pussy Club location just steps from the Schönefeld Airport.

[url]http://bordell-erotica-berlin-schoenefeld.eu/[/url]

The web page seems to still be under construction and I have yet to read a report.

For those arriving who just can not wait to get into town.

Don't expect much from this.

AM

I've decided to take a bit of a break from Kamilla Dee. Not that it's a bad place. Just that some of the girls there would sometimes wonder why I wasn't dating regular girls in Berlin instead of paying themselves lots of money. Fortunately I always had a good comeback for that: I said that my German wasn't good enough. Nowadays it's getting harder to maintain that excuse.

Besides which, there are so many different corners of this city still to explore, it's amazing. This forum, useful as it is to newcomers, describes only the English-speaking surface of the Berlin scene. The other day I decided to follow the road less travelled and use a tip I found on the German forums. I ended up with some of the best sex of my life.

She was a blonde Latvian girl with a beautiful face, a porn star body, and, most importantly, a porn star attitude. Crazy sex in every position and she held nothing back: DFK, DATY, etc. I wasn't vain enough to imagine that all the screaming and moaning was real, but it was so well done I didn't care. We chatted in German at the end as she was really friendly and arranged another rendezvous. Meanwhile I'd be delighted to share her name and the location of the establishment if the thread clique will kindly permit it.

I gave her €80. Normally I would spend €120 on visits to KD, so I saved €40. I paid this €40 (including a big tip) to a nice English girl to spend three hours cleaning my place. It kind of puts things into perspective. I mean the amount of money we are spending on girls, and what we expect to get in return.

Hi.

I found myself with an unexpected free couple of hours this afternoon, so I popped into Monrouge for the first time since they merged with Bel Ami.

There were three girls available, Sybel whom I'the seen with before, and two new girls from Romania. Of the new girls, I chose Monica, and a very good choice it was too.

[url]http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Monica.html[/url]

Monica is 25, tall with a perfect figure and is even prettier than she looks in her pictures. She's also a really fabulous girl – friendly, funny and very sexy.

I was offered a half-hour for 80E, plus kissing (10E) and uncovered BJ (40E) as extras. That was 130E, and as I extended for a further 30 mins for an additional 80E, total cost was 210E for the hour. This new pricing structure is no doubt the 'Bel Ami' effect, but I didn't see anything new to justify the significant price hike that had taken place since my last visit.

Monica started off with an oil-assisted body-to-body massage, beautifully executed. Her BBBJ skills are top class. She has a fabulous body and the prettiest pink pussy I've seen this year. A stellar session, price notwithstanding.

If Monrouge's current price list accords with your budget, then Monica is definitely one to look out for. A terrific girl.

Charlie

For those of us living vicariously from afar.

Her motto is "Die Lust ist mein höchstes Gut!" and she looks to have very nice BoBos (to my untrained eye).

I am shocked that you looked at her pussy.

Thanks BSK.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1166888]Hi.

I found myself with an unexpected free couple of hours this afternoon.

[url]http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Monica.html[/url]

She has a fabulous body and the prettiest pink pussy I've seen this year. A stellar session, price notwithstanding. A terrific girl.

Charlie[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1166888]If Monrouge's current price list accords with your budget, then Monica is definitely one to look out for. A terrific girl.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Good talent scouting there Charlie. So I guess MR price is now on par with KD et. Al. When you throw in extras that is an awfully expensive punt. Still if they can deliver the promised goods, who can argue with that.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1167077]Good talent scouting there Charlie. So I guess MR price is now on par with KD et. Al. When you throw in extras that is an awfully expensive punt. Still if they can deliver the promised goods, who can argue with that.

AM[/QUOTE]Correct.

The great thing about Monrouge in the past was, in my experience, being a top-notch bordelle in the KLD & VK class, but at the price of a 'second-tier' establishment such as Royal, Salon Prestige, Liberty or Tiffany.

Now that they have jacked up their prices to KLD levels, they cease to be the relative bargain that used to be the case.

I still reckon that MR is a quality bordelle with really pretty girls and top service. But at the new price-levels. So it should be.

Best wishes,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1167077]Good talent scouting there Charlie. So I guess MR price is now on par with KD et. Al. When you throw in extras that is an awfully expensive punt. Still if they can deliver the promised goods, who can argue with that.

AM[/QUOTE]I just noticed your post count. 2038 and climbing!

I remember, not so long ago, when you were approaching 1000 posts and trying to find a suitable way to commemorate that milestone. Your 2000th seems to have passed by without fanfare. Or did I miss something?

Well done anyway. A journalistic achievement that surpasses anything that Bernstein & Woodward have managed.

Best wishes,

Charlie

Apparently, their website is not under construction anymore and the club opened last Friday. The new club is NOT a flatrate club, instead it's 60 Euros / 30 minutes. That's the same price level as Artemis. But in Schoenefeld they charge 5 Euros per drink and even have lady drinks for 15 Euros. And no BBBJ by the way. At least it's only 5 Euros to get into the club and the first drink is for free.

All information quoted above is taken from their website. It's a slightly different URL now:

[url]http://www.bordell-erotica-berlin.eu[/url]

I haven't been to the club yet and don't intend to. You get much better bang for the buck in Berlin.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1165415]Seems there is a new brothel opening up in the old Pussy Club location just steps from the Schönefeld Airport.

[url]http://bordell-erotica-berlin-schoenefeld.eu/[/url]

The web page seems to still be under construction and I have yet to read a report.

For those arriving who just can not wait to get into town.

Don't expect much from this.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1167115]I just noticed your post count. 2038 and climbing!

I remember, not so long ago, when you were approaching 1000 posts and trying to find a suitable way to commemorate that milestone. Your 2000th seems to have passed by without fanfare. Or did I miss something?

Well done anyway. A journalistic achievement that surpasses anything that Bernstein & Woodward have managed.

Best wishes,

Charlie[/QUOTE]Hi Charlie,

I was hanging on for a post of merit around the time I was approaching 2000. But as my activities are somewhat curtailed nothing was presenting itself. In the end I just posted without note the 2000 mark. Hopefully by the time I rech 3000 things will have turned around.

AM

[QUOTE=WsgJack2;1167265]I haven't been to the club yet and don't intend to. You get much better bang for the buck in Berlin.[/QUOTE]A report I read a couple of days back on the German forum was less than spectacular. One girl available, Romanian and not a top model. I just can not see this being a great location for a club and have doubts that they will veer be able to attract and decent talent. But hope springs eternal in the pooners heart and maybe someone here will give it a shot.

AM

Well, I have finally had the Artemis experience after reading about it for such a long time and all I can say is thank god I live far away in Asia because if I lived anywhere near Berlin, I'd soon end up bankrupt visiting this place every weekend!

I'm writing this report with all the details from scratch for the benefit of anyone new to Berlin or new to the Artemis experience.

Arrived around 4. 30pm on a Saturday after a day of sightseeing (magnificent as the Brandenburg Tor and the Reichstag were, the sights on display at Artemis proved to be the highlight of the day by some distance.). Grabbed a taxi from Potsdamer Platz. The driver knew where Artemis was and the journey cost around EUR 14. Very friendly girl on reception, clocked me as a newbie as soon as I walked in and patiently explained the set-up to me: you pay your EUR 80 entrance fee, and receive a key that works on both your locker in the changing room as well as a small safe just off the reception. Clothes etc go in the locker, money goes in the safe.

Included in the admission fee: showers, robes, towels and slippers; soft drinks and food; use of the gym (I wouldn't have believed anyone actually would, but lo and behold there was indeed some enthusiastic chap pedalling away on an exercise bike) , sauna and swimming pool.

Sex is not included and runs to EUR 60 for a half-hour with the girl of your choice (more on this below) , which includes FK, BBBJ, DATY and sex in several positions. Everything else is extra and negotiable with the girl. CIM / COF / COB is EUR 60; A-Levels EUR 100; extending the session to one hour EUR 120. The girls are pretty honest about what's included and what's extra and you are unlikely to get scammed, although YMMV in as far as the standard of service from girl to girl.

Spacious and clean change-room facilities (but, being a very private person, I was a little uncomfortable with the communal showers and the amount of bratwurst on display.). The change-room leads through to the main lounge, which resembles the interior of a large upscale nightclub complete with techno music played by a resident DJ. The bar serves free soft drinks as well as pricey alcohol. At EUR 10 for a beer, not really the venue to be drinking in. The atmosphere is chilled, with plenty of comfy banquettes to relax in. The footstools were a nice touch. Smoking is permitted in the upstair lounge (though not in the downstair bar, nor in the gym, sauna or pool areas).

I was quite nervous at first, so I thought I'the just sit there for a while and take in the goings-on. There were quite a few guys already in, most in buddy-groups with a few singletons like me here and there, but the numbers started increasing to horde-like proportions by the time I decided to leave – around 7. 30pm. The atmosphere was very relaxed – I felt perfectly comfortable sitting there with my feet up, smoking a cigarette and taking in the acres of gorgeous naked female flesh strolling about in nowt but a pair of high-heels and the occasional sexy waist-chain or garter-belt.

It truly was a cornucopia of delight for the eye: blonde girls, black girls, brown girls, oriental girls, tall, short, tanned, pale, long-legged, big-titted, medium-titted, tiny-titted. The smorgasbord of international pulchritude was almost overwhelming!

I was just plucking up the courage to go and say Hello, to someone, when my first companion of the evening decided to take the initiative and come talk to me. Her name was Iris and she was from Romania – tall, tanned, nice legs, attractive features, bottle-blonde hair, plastic tits (which was the only minus for me). She's worked at Artemis for a couple of years and spotted me as a nervous newbie, which was a good thing because it broke the ice, making me feel a lot more confident after opening my innings and getting a feel for the modus operandi of the house. I opted for the straight EUR 60 session with her as this was my Artemis-cherry-pop. Nice sloppy BBBJ – I asked her to go slow and slurpy and she cheerfully obliged. Sex in CG, Doggie and finished in Mish with her ankles around my ears. Nice chat and a bit of a laugh afterwards before heading back downstairs. Parted with a kiss – a very pleasant opener indeed.

So, the way it works: if you see a girl you like just go up and say Hi, have a bit of a chat and, if you wish, head off to one of the rooms up the stairs. The keys to vacant rooms are left on a desk and the girl just grabs one as you go past. Once in the room you discuss whether you want the standard service or something extra, agree the price and away you go. Once you finish, you head down to the safe with the girl, retrieve your cash, pay her, put the wallet back in the safe and head back to the lounge, pool, etc to recuperate before embarking on the next round.

Round two for me was with Yolanda, a 5' 10' leggy black girl of mixed Jamaican and Somalian extraction with small, natural tits, a warm, friendly personality and a lovely smile. She approached me as I sat by the bar smoking a post-Iris Gauloises Blondes and chatted me up with the practiced aplomb of a five-year veteran of the house. When I said I was interested but wanted to hang out for a bit longer, she said no problem and true to her word came and found me about a half-hour later. I do wish Yolanda had been my first encounter of the evening, as she spoke excellent English and really took time to explain the ropes to me – what's included, what's not etc. I think she decided to take me under her wing somewhat as she had assumed I was an early-twenty-something naïve young lad (I actually do look a lot younger than I am) , which was no bad thing because I learned quite a bit about how to operate at Artemis. She was genuinely shocked when I disabused her of her assumption and told her I was 39 – we had a good laugh about it and the sex ended up being all the better for our having built some rapport – as I found with my third and last session of the evening, the downside of Artemis is that the encounter can end up being quite mechanical if you pick someone with whom you have no chemistry.

I've never had anal sex with a black girl and Yolanda had a lovely arse, so I was quite keen on the extras. I don't think she was though as she quoted EUR 150 for A-Levels (she wasn't trying it on – she was honest enough to tell me that the normal rate is EUR 100 but she charges more). I got the hint and didn't pursue the matter but I did splash out (pun intended) an extra EUR 60 to bust my nut all over her face. Superb BBBJ, tasty DATY and enthusiastic CG, Reverse CG, Doggie and Mish with those long legs of hers up on my shoulders. Sweet kiss as she left me by the door to the change-rooms. Excellent session, the best of the evening.

After two good rounds, I made my first schoolboy error of the evening. I had earlier seen a really toothsome little corkscrew-curled blonde and had set my sights on her for my final punt of the day. When she didn't reappear for a while, rather than going off with the lovely nose-ringed, dark-haired Hungarian girl who sat with me for a long chat, I decided to hold out for the curly-mop and she never turned up. Of course, I lost the Hungarian thereafter as well.

The second schoolboy error I made was not booking in this absolute corker of a black girl I had seen previously as I subsequently passed by her on the landing on my way to the loo. I thought she'the still be there when I came out, but she wasn't: I really should have stopped earlier and asked her to wait a couple of minutes for me to come back out. Couldn't find her again, either.

The third schoolboy error was driven largely by the fact that nearly three hours had gone by since I entered the club, I'd lost three birds I'd fancied, I had to head off for a dinner appointment and I wanted a third shot before I left. I had seen a pretty little blonde with tiny tits on a slim coltish frame – right up my alley – and when she passed by, I tapped her on the shoulder and without any real preamble agreed to go to a room with her. I should have trusted my instincts, as she was quite hard-faced close up and I didn't feel much of a connection, circumstances under which I'the normally have bailed out. Her name was Varna from Bulgaria and she turned out to be very much the mechanical go-through-the-motions-type that I had instinctively pegged her for when I said Hello. The BBBJ was a bit of a cheese-grater jobbie too and she didn't speak enough English – nor I German – for me to get the message across to her to mind her teeth. She offered anal sex, which I agreed to thinking it would liven things up a bit but she launched into a routine of fake-moaning and corny "give it to me baby" patter that completely put me off and ended up giving me a headache. I decided to cut my losses and had her jerk me off just to get it over with. Of course, true to sod's law, she turned into a smiley, perky, bright little ray of sunshine as soon as I'the come but it was a bit too late by then.

Je ne regrette rien, though. All-in-all it was a super first foray into Artemis, which is just about as brilliant an establishment as can be, and I learned a few valuable lessons that will hold me in good stead on my next visit.

I headed back to town on the S-Bahn from Westkreuz Station, which was a breeze to find after viewing Angus's thoughtful and most useful video on how to get to Artemis.

Will I return? Hell, yes. And often!

[QUOTE=Kbkbal;1168928].... Artemis ....[/QUOTE]Hello, Kbkbal,

A thread about Berlin Artemis does exist :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin[/url]

IMHO, it would be nice that your post goes there!

Took one for the troops. Amanda, yikes hot buxom 24 yr old Czech blond, found on Berlin Intim website (rated number 1 most viewed set card at the mo). A little less photo-shopping in the flesh, but still attractive. She floats around Germany, in short-term flats with a friend in seemingly all big cities for a couple of weeks, then moves on. There the good times end. Made an appointment-she was late as things were occupied. My monger instincts said maybe I should bolt but you know how easily inertia sets in in such matters so I just carried on. Then a few grunted negotiations with no discussion of extras etc. 70 Eur for 30 mechanical, covered BJ, no kissing, pointless, loveless (she came at least) , starfish minutes, kind of like being on an assembly line. Almost sexless sex. Some might find this unique concept exciting. I surely did not.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1171509]Took one for the troops. Amanda, yikes hot buxom 24 yr old Czech blond, found on Berlin Intim website (rated number 1 most viewed set card at the mo). A little less photo-shopping in the flesh, but still attractive. She floats around Germany, in short-term flats with a friend in seemingly all big cities for a couple of weeks, then moves on. There the good times end. Made an appointment-she was late as things were occupied. My monger instincts said maybe I should bolt but you know how easily inertia sets in in such matters so I just carried on. Then a few grunted negotiations with no discussion of extras etc. 70 Eur for 30 mechanical, covered BJ, no kissing, pointless, loveless (she came at least) , starfish minutes, kind of like being on an assembly line. Almost sexless sex. Some might find this unique concept exciting. I surely did not.[/QUOTE]Shame. Fabulous body, just my type.

Escorts are speculative propositions as we all know, but from time to time one comes across an agency that seems reliable and then one has reasonable grounds to expect a certain standard of service with any new girls that one orders from the same stable.

Independents are probably the least reliable category of hookers, especially the ones who travel from city to city. There is no prospect for the girl of repeat business and thus no incentive for her to give you your money's worth.

A brave effort on your part. Sorry that the adventure you displayed was not properly rewarded.

I'll be at Art on the 13th if you happen to be around. Pm me if so.

Best.

Charlie

Hi all,

I'm going to berlin next week and hoping if I can get some advice from you on where to go and where not to go. My first trip to Berlin so don't know anything there but trying to read up and getting some info but trying to get some inside info to.

[QUOTE=Jerbio; 1171975]Hi all,

I'm going to berlin next week and hoping if I can get some advice from you on where to go and where not to go. My first trip to Berlin so don't know anything there but trying to read up and getting some info but trying to get some inside info to.[/QUOTE]Jerbio- here we are laying it out on the line for you all with our almost daily recon missions, broken hearts and wallets, and you can't seem to do the obvious.

Well here is some shocking and unconventional advice: READ THIS FORUM. The very same forum you found to write your note! This IS the inside info. Look through the older posts, at least from this past year. Invest a massive 30 minutes. All revealed.

Or look at Angus Magee's blog site, with its reports of Biblical proportions, with even videos of how to arrive at key destinations.

On current trends, soon there will even be requests for videos of how to talk to girls, and to clarify really, what is that dang penis thing for. Sorry to rant, but I am still recovering from an earlier special op this week.

I guess the old adage 'quit while you're ahead' should apply here, but after 6 great visits to KD, I thought I'the visit Liberty to get a taste of the BBBJ action. I should have listened to my gut just from looking at the website that Liberty was no KD. Instead, I went and regret that my last taste of Berlin is a sour one.

I'the heard about the great rooms at Liberty but from the outside, I had my doubts. Inside, the doubts were confirmed when I was put in a small, ugly room that screamed from its cheapness. One of the girls looked decent enough in a Angelica Jolie, slutty kind of way, so I picked her. There were some language confusions but settled for 30 min+ French total and kissing. First bummer, after some amazing kissing sessions at KD, the 20 euros of Liberty kissing equaled two tight lipped smacks that I could've gotten from my grandmother. The second bummer was, we got straight into the BBBJ action and I thought I'the cum quickly so I could have a longer more tantric 2nd pop. Unfortunately, I did not know 30 minutes only allowed one go, so after a hot 10 minutes, I was left holding the bag, so to speak, with nothing to do for our awkward final 20. I felt ripped off and wanted to complain, but I left quickly and regret not having listened to my instincts.

I will try to think of my amazing sessions at KD instead. Wow, what a difference. Right from the get go, top notch all the way. Including some of the most amazing kissing, dining at the Y, fingering, and rimming I have ever had the pleasure of doing.

Top of the list: Jennifer. Whoa, this girl left me reeling afterwards like, 'did that just fucking happen? ' amazing. She only does escort but man, is she worth it. Maybe the best I ever had. First, she came right up and started kissing, which I love. I mean I made out like I haven't since I was a teenager. The full hour, even after going down on her, front and back. This girl can kiss! Amazing nipples that I sucked over and over and she loved it. And I went down on her at least four times in which she came and had real screaming, holding my head hard against her pussy orgasms that were not acting. I loved rimming a girl and this girl let me clean her out good several times. Then intense fingering in the pussy and ass and more cumming like you would not believe. She seems to have an endless supply of saliva that she uses for some slow, incredibly intense hand stroking. And the whole time, she looks you straight in the eyes. She will taunt you with her sexy ass and doggy style was unbelievable. You will not find a better girlfriend experience anywhere. Hard to schedule but worth the hunt.

2nd on my list is the adorable Felicia who is also a first class kisser, who will make out with you for the full hour. Great in all the same ways as Jennifer but alittle eager with the blowjob and fucking noises, probably just because she is so young. But she too came like you wouldn't believe from DATY. Intense, earth-shattering orgasms. And she loved me sucking on the lovely titties of hers. Great girlfriend experience. She will only get better with age.

Klio was also high on the dining, rimming and ass fingering orgasms and lovely and warm to boot. Adorable in everyway.

Sascha was my first time there after almost 8 years away from the mongering scene. She immediately restored my faith and I knew this was a place I would return to. She is unbelievably sexy and has the most amazing suck worthy nipples ever. We hardly spoke, but connected the whole time in a way that left a smile on my my face for a long time afterwards. Smooth and easy going, a true pro and well worth seeking out. Didn't kiss but might we kissed each other all over.

Overall, I have to say all the KD girls where incredibly relaxed and had no problem going over the clock. Never felt rushed or pushed to do anything. Instead I was constantly surprised what they let me do to them. Kira is great trying to help you set up escorts and the other staff always very helpful and warm. An dtheir website is excellent, which up to date scheduling and details about each girl. KD is first class all the way and I will recommend them over the competition any day. Just talking about them now makes my miserable time at Liberty melt away. If its your first time in Berlin or mongering, do yourself a favor and visit Kamilla La Dee. Do your research and you will not be disappointed.

[QUOTE=Kafka1; 1172256]I guess the old adage 'quit while you're ahead' should apply here, but after 6 great visits to KD, I thought I'the visit Liberty to get a taste of the BBBJ action. I should have listened to my gut just from looking at the website that Liberty was no KD. Instead, I went and regret that my last taste of Berlin is a sour one.

I'the heard about the great rooms at Liberty but from the outside, I had my doubts. Inside, the doubts were confirmed when I was put in a small, ugly room that screamed from its cheapness. One of the girls looked decent enough in a Angelica Jolie, slutty kind of way, so I picked her. There were some language confusions but settled for 30 min+ French total and kissing. First bummer, after some amazing kissing sessions at KD, the 20 euros of Liberty kissing equaled two tight lipped smacks that I could've gotten from my grandmother. The second bummer was, we got straight into the BBBJ action and I thought I'the cum quickly so I could have a longer more tantric 2nd pop. Unfortunately, I did not know 30 minutes only allowed one go, so after a hot 10 minutes, I was left holding the bag, so to speak, with nothing to do for our awkward final 20. I felt ripped off and wanted to complain, but I left quickly and regret not having listened to my instincts.[/QUOTE]Indeed Kafka. Go to Liberty and you may feel like you had been turned from a handsome man-about-town into a cockroach.

I had a great time at Liberty once with a Cuban Carnaval Queen called Malou. The next time I was expecting more of the same, and I picked a Berliner called Shelby, quite pretty in a slutty way with lots of tattoos. I don't know if she was the same as yours, but she used the same strategy. I paid €60+20, and after only five minutes it was clear she was trying to rip me off so I called for the manager and asked them what exactly they were trying to pull here? After the standard lame excuses, the manager offered €20 back, and I said, No WAY, I want it ALL back. This was refused, so I just walked out in disgust. I would never go back there.

Kafka, I dearly wish I had warned you in time. I had missed your earlier post.

[QUOTE=Kafka1;1172256]I will try to think of my amazing sessions at KD instead. Wow, what a difference. Right from the get go, top notch all the way. Including some of the most amazing kissing, dining at the Y, fingering, and rimming I have ever had the pleasure of doing.[/QUOTE]Definitely KD is a better house. As I've said before, the management have the vital give-a-damn factor that enables repeat business even in the case of a mishap.

[QUOTE=Kafka1; 1172256].

Jennifer.

Hard to schedule but worth the hunt.[/QUOTE]You are lucky : I failed more than once in booking her.

[QUOTE=Kafka1; 1172256].

All the KD girls where incredibly relaxed and.[/QUOTE]All? I don't know, I did not meet ALL of them.

[QUOTE=Kafka1;1172256].had no problem going over the clock. .[/QUOTE]But, please, pay them even if they don't ask for! It's so easy with KD's rates : 40 Euros / 15 minutes

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;1172586]But, please, pay them even if they don't ask for! It's so easy with KD's rates : 40 Euros / 15 minutes[/QUOTE]Spoken like a true gentleman. Not many about these days...

AM

I am going to Berlin in sept. Would like to try an escort and have picked out a firm called My Escort Berlin. Would like to try Wiki or Monica. Is this a good or bad firm?

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1172397]Indeed Kafka. Go to Liberty and you may feel like you had been turned from a handsome man-about-town into a cockroach.

I had a great time at Liberty once with a Cuban Carnaval Queen called Malou. The next time I was expecting more of the same, and I picked a Berliner called Shelby, quite pretty in a slutty way with lots of tattoos. I don't know if she was the same as yours, but she used the same strategy. I paid €60+20, and after only five minutes it was clear she was trying to rip me off so I called for the manager and asked them what exactly they were trying to pull here? After the standard lame excuses, the manager offered €20 back, and I said, No WAY, I want it ALL back. This was refused, so I just walked out in disgust. I would never go back there.

Kafka, I dearly wish I had warned you in time. I had missed your earlier post.[/QUOTE]Well that's ok. Live and learn. And ALWAYS follow you gut instincts (and not your dick). Only once did I encounter a girl at KD who was not what was advertised. But I was able to turn her down at the last minute, and luckily another girl who I had wanted to see just happened to be there unscheduled. Whew, that was great luck but indicative of KD.

Now I am off to Amsterdam and Barcelona but I still may quit while I'm ahead and cherish my Berlin days.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1172591]Spoken like a true gentleman. Not many about these days.

AM[/QUOTE]

And does the word "gentlelady" exist?

Believe me, Angus, such ladies do exist : I remember a former KD lady (my jewel!) gave me back part of the money (corresponding to the extended time) saying "It's too much!". With the same lady, I tried Greek with her (just for few seconds that's right, because it was not really my "trick", just to "explore" (I don't like to finger)"everywhere" of her once) and she refused me to pay her the extras (I said : "But I was inside", She answered : "come on").

In Koln / Cologne, I met a lady who had a similar behavior too.

In Prag, I met an escort who gave me back 300 Euros (it was a big amount for Czech residents) because she should leave me around 3 hours earlier than expected (if I remember well, it was a 24 hours meeting). Finally, I had to take this banknotes in my hand before insisting her to take it back just as a gift, not as something I paid for.

Of course, I do not idealize sex-workers and believe that most of them don't act as the ones I told but it's so normal : nearly (?) all of them work in this job because they need money, I think!

[QUOTE=NightHard;1172707]I am going to Berlin in sept. Would like to try an escort and have picked out a firm called My Escort Berlin. Would like to try Wiki or Monica. Is this a good or bad firm?[/QUOTE]My Escorts Berlin does not have a stellar reputation. It is part of the large escort conglomerate that hosts 6-8 websites in Berlin always changing appearance and moving the girls from site to site often renaming them. While I do not discount the possibility of a decent session from one of these agencies, I feel it is a real roll of the dice.

I suggest that you read the information contained in this thread, especially the posts of Charlie123.

[QUOTE=Nanuq; 1163734]Greetings everyone,

Long time lurker on this forum but somewhat of a newcomer to the wide world of mongering. I'm particularly interested in the quintessential pornstar experience, a finish that includes a mix of both CIM and COF. Having lived in Berlin for close to 3 years, I'm know the bordello names and locations but up until rather recently was able to resist the allure. That pandora's box has now been opened and I find myself looking for this aforementioned mix of CIM and COF. Can anyone suggest some girls and would there be an expectation that I pay for both as extras? Any suggestions would be well received.

Best,

Nanuq[/QUOTE]Nanuq: Berlin is not a real PSE city but Mercedes@[url]http://www.sexintheciti.de/[/url] Is known in the German forum as a stunner that is a (MILF) hard body. CIM is pretty widespread in Berlin, so Artemis is a good alternative to pre-select choices. My personal favourite is [url]http://www.click-veronique.de/[/url] But she is a MILF again and it's hard to get a date with her (she does usually only one date per day).

Regards, T

[QUOTE=Tonio1;1173245]Nanuq: Berlin is not a real PSE city but Mercedes.Regards, T[/QUOTE]Know her quite well. She is nothing like that, and most def will not do c1 or c2.

Artemis your best bet. Maybe that's what next week's fab Foam Night (see the Artemis thread) is all about?

[QUOTE=NightHard;1172707]I am going to Berlin in sept. Would like to try an escort and have picked out a firm called My Escort Berlin. Would like to try Wiki or Monica. Is this a good or bad firm?[/QUOTE]As Angus suggests, this agency operates a few websites with largely the same girls on each one.

I have tried a few of their girls. Please search my reports for further details.

This agency is 'hit and miss'. I have had a range of experiences, from good to very poor. I wouldn't positively recommend them, but I wouldn't put you off trying them out if there is a particular girl that you fancy.

I haven't tried either of the girls you mention.

Good luck,

Charlie

2 new arrivals at KZ.

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-lucy.html[/url]

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-ramona.html[/url]

I have reported on almost all of their girls in the last couple of years. This is a terrific agency, especially if you like 'them young and petite.

Expect further details here soon.

Charlie

[QUOTE=NightHard;1172707]I am going to Berlin in sept. Would like to try an escort and have picked out a firm called My Escort Berlin. Would like to try Wiki or Monica. Is this a good or bad firm?[/QUOTE]Monica, one of your choices, just received a very positive review on the German forum. This does not guarantee anything but is a step in the right direction.


[url]http://www.myescortberlin.com/girl/Monica.html[/url]


AM

[QUOTE=NightHard;1172707]I am going to Berlin in sept. Would like to try an escort and have picked out a firm called My Escort Berlin. Would like to try Wiki or Monica. Is this a good or bad firm?[/QUOTE]Hi,

I was in berlin last week and had a date with ramona from K und Z.

It was very good! She has a wonderfull body, nice small ti. S,

And has a very service orientated attitude!

2 roinds with lots of enthusiasm for 120 euro.

Good deal I will def. Repead with this agency.

Thanks to the forum I now realy love berlin.

Will

[url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de./[/url]

Hi guys have they moved? I checked the site today and its@

Hochstr. 45 13357 Berlin.

Before I got it down near exerzierstr?

[QUOTE=Voyer1; 1173688][url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de./[/url]

Hi guys have they moved? I checked the site today and its@

Hochstr. 45 13357 Berlin.

Before I got it down near exerzierstr?[/QUOTE]@Voyer: Fh did not move and Hochstr. 45 is the adress for more then a decade. You might mix it up with some other place which are / were on Exerzierstr.

Cheers, T

[QUOTE=Voyer1; 1173688][url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de./[/url]

Hi guys have they moved? I checked the site today and its@

Hochstr. 45 13357 Berlin.

Before I got it down near exerzierstr?[/QUOTE]Freudenhaus has been at that location for as long as I have been in Berlin (8 years). Not sure where you went on Exerziierstr. But it was not the Hase.

AM

On a rainy day in Berlin I went to KD. A nice line up with around 6-7 girls. Ophelia was a cute looker. She even let me touch her breasts during her presentation (and they felt really nice). But she was also acting way to much on her status as new and shy at KD. And it was a small turn off at least for my taste. So I went with Marie ([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/marie.htm[/url]) , who had a great attitude and a fun personality. Booked 30 minutes and came quite quickly when she gave me a really good BJ to begin with. During this I was DATY but she did not respond in any way so I gave up. She is not really into talking so we cuddled (no kissing at any point during the session but it still felt quite GF'ish) a litte before we went to the second round. She started to lick my balls and the base of my dick without a condom and then slowly let her tounge wander towards the head. If it actually was her tounge I shortly after felt on my uncovered dick or if it was her chin and nose I am really not sure. Her hair was covering for my sight (I was during this thinking about the discussion here at ISG about uncovered BJs at KD.). But I had to stop her and she put a condom on before we continued with BJ and a couple of positions before I came in doggy. All in all a nice visit and the 30 minutes did not feel rushed at any time. I usually allways book one hour but this experience was for me a proof that with the right girl and chemistry you can get a relaxed session with 2 pops in half an hour.

Is the U. Bahn in Berlin open 24/7, or does it close early?

[QUOTE=NightHard;1175284]Is the U. Bahn in Berlin open 24/7, or does it close early?[/QUOTE]'

No it is not 24 hrs. In fact during the week it closes surprisingly (for me) early. Same with the S Bahn. It is best to check the times on the BVG website before you go out. There is also a pretty good night bus service but you have to know the times they run as the busses are usually just twice an hour.

[url]http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html[/url]

A

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1175335]'

No it is not 24 hrs. In fact during the week it closes surprisingly (for me) early. Same with the S Bahn. It is best to check the times on the BVG website before you go out. There is also a pretty good night bus service but you have to know the times they run as the busses are usually just twice an hour.

[url]http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html[/url]

A[/QUOTE]There are "Night buses", for example the bus line N7 looks like the U line U7 (KD line (LOL)

The best is to check different possibilities (U, S, buses) with bvg as Angus recommanded

According to official reports, Anna Chapman is back in Russia, but I just got Spanish from her (or her twin) at Ekstase. Very friendly lady. Try spelling her name backwards.

There's a lot going on in Berlin right now. You can't waste a woman of that quality!

Hi,

I will be in berlin this week and I plan to spend some time with :

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/evy23[/url]

And with

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/kayLee[/url]

I was wondering if anyone has any expiriance with one of them. I will meet them this week. One in the evening and one in the morning. I love A service and I like a good looking one. So I hope this will be a good selection. Most other girls ar on holiday.

So any suggestion welcome, and next week you all will know.

Will

A question for Kamilla la Dee connoisseurs. When you are having a GFE is there a polyamory option? Not in the sense of threesomes but just in terms of an easygoing freeloving attitude on the part of your lovely illusionist.

What prompts my query is that a little while back I managed to persuade one girl after a long and steamy courtship to favour me with her sweetest kisses, only to find that another adored one in my next KD session suddenly *stopped* kissing me, and even mentioned the other fraulein by name, quite cattily I should say.

I was chagrined. I thought this was taking the whole GFE thing too far. In fact this is just the kind of thing I've been trying to avoid by visiting KD rather than taking a more conventional route to sensual fulfillment. What I have is a real dread of being "owned". Whenever a girl of any type tries to lock me in by hard tactics, it has the opposite effect to what was intended.

Am I being unreasonable after handing over my weekly earnings to expect a little consideration, a little leeway even to experiment on the side should my most special one not be available when I am? I would point out that under the current system a girl at KD can own not just one gentleman but several. It hardly seems fair.

Not that I expect or seek much sympathy in this forum. Quite the contrary indeed. I am all too aware that in opening my heart so freely I expose myself to the usual callow barbs from some of the more hardboiled types that haunt this thread. So be it. The issue of monopolistic GFEism needs to be aired regardless of the risk to my personal sensibilities.

[QUOTE=The Limey;1176131]I am all too aware that in opening my heart so freely I expose myself to the usual callow barbs .The issue of monopolistic GFEism needs to be aired regardless of the risk to my personal sensibilities.[/QUOTE]I vote trolling. Anyone else?

[QUOTE=The Limey;1176131]A question for Kamilla la Dee connoisseurs. When you are having a GFE is there a polyamory option?[/QUOTE]I have never used this establishment but I think I would like Elena to be my girlfriend there and if she gives me her lovely deep kisses then I will be faithful to her.

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1176131]. Etc. When you are having a GFE is there a polyamory option? . Etc.[/QUOTE]Apparently, in KD some actions that participate to a GFE are not considered as "services" to sell!

So, depending on the level of the "click" we have AT THE MOMENT we meet the lady, our experience could be different from a meeting to another.

For example, I mentioned a very hot meeting with the third lady in this thread.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1109456#post1109456[/url]

I met her twice since and, first, she remembered me just vaguely and second, the two meetings didn't have the same "quality", the same "heat" we had at our first meeting!

Even between true lovers, between wife and husband, the intensity of their relationship is not always the same so don't worry so much, just enjoy when we can : Amor fati + Carpe diem

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;1176481]Even between true lovers, between wife and husband, the intensity of their relationship is not always the same so don't worry so much, just enjoy when we can : Amor fati + Carpe diem[/QUOTE]Bobo I think you nail it here. If the monger wants a set menu of services then there are many, many bordellos that will cater to you.

If you are after a more genuine GFE and are willing to risk that one session may not be exactly up to the next in terms of exact services rendered, KD is the choice.

I might add that Artemis can also offer this but it requires of the monger that he chose very, very wisely and in general, drop the post game analysis.

AM

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1176152]I vote trolling. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]I vote immature behaviour by you sir. I really cannot stand the kindergarten mentality from you and very unfortunately some other senior members. I hope a moderator will do something about this before it escalates. It is very disappointing.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1176683]If you are after a more genuine GFE and are willing to risk that one session may not be exactly up to the next in terms of exact services rendered, KD is the choice.

AM[/QUOTE]Sounds like marriage, Angus.

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1176797]I vote immature behaviour by you sir. I really cannot stand the kindergarten mentality from you and very unfortunately some other senior members.[/QUOTE]Sorry to disappoint you Zimmerbaby. I did only barely graduate from kindergarten, and I'm just doing the best I can. I will also reveal a secret. Each week, senior members, scoundrels all, gather in an underground room (it is near a kindergarten) and coordinate their ISG responses. It is an expensive, complicated undertaking as they live all over the world, and come from many different walks of life. Or, perhaps they don't meet at all. They are in fact an independent lot.

The thing is, you can't have it both ways. If the forum is going to be open, then there will be a diversity of opinion. And that means we may disagree with each other.

You might be of the school that all comments are welcome regardless of how true or silly, that we should all nurture each other etc. I don't agree. And if I think there's trolling, or (on occasion) if something is rubbish, I will say it. You may not agree. Fine-you may say so. You might call this immature. I call it democratic.

More to the point, I think this forum ought to be what it is, namely a Berlin forum, with interesting, well written news and comments that helps mongers enjoy the highs and avoid the lows. I have said several times that diary-like entries really are wide of the mark here.

Bearsk a while back, had a really good idea that someone should just start a separate thread for these kind of personal, wistful feelings sort of things that really have nothing to do with Berlin or helping others here. Then all these literary types can go hog wild. But on another thread.

Enough said- I am done. I actually think your posts have been, in general, pretty good and useful.

Now - some quick news from the real world:

Met with Linda, buxom Brasilian among the Top Liste on the Berlin Intime website. Bad, bad, bad -don´t know of whom the photos are, but not her. As Neil Young once said, things started out kinda of slow and fizzled out altogether. So many acts were forbidden, so few parts could be touched, I might have had a wilder time in the veggie section of a supermarket. I am giving up gradually on the Indie scene-it is just little hit, and too much miss.

However - Jenny, Berlin blonde, new at Salon Prestige, is the real deal, and was great fun, easy-going and eager to please, and eager to be pleased. Sehr recommended.

In relation to reduced activity at the Angus Magee blog I have recently started reading Niccolò Machiavelli instead. Maybe I am affected by this. Democracy. Yes, but how many times should a man get circumcised? The purpose of this forum is to give nourishment to the brain and the dick, to reinforce, not to execute it. I address this to several members here, not only you. Save the rainforest and the Limey.

I liked your bicycletrip to Artemis. &9829;

Hugs from the Zimmer

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1176797]I vote immature behaviour by you sir. I really cannot stand the kindergarten mentality from you and very unfortunately some other senior members. I hope a moderator will do something about this before it escalates. It is very disappointing.[/QUOTE]OMG. At least Rocketboy0 is a real person. I am trying to deal with the fake-looking reviews of Globe being posted in the Zurich thread at the moment. Still nobody has replied to my enquiry about Elena. The nice young KD girl with the spectacular rack. Hasn't anyone had the pleasure (or not)?

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1177191]Still nobody has replied to my enquiry about Elena. The nice young KD girl with the spectacular rack. Hasn't anyone had the pleasure (or not)?[/QUOTE]The search function, though a bit tricky sometimes, works wonders with this sort of thing.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1088927&viewfull=1#post1088927[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1177192]The search function, though a bit tricky sometimes, works wonders with this sort of thing.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1088927&viewfull=1#post1088927[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]You're right Angus. I was being thoughtless and lazy. I see that you had some interest in her though. Why haven't you sampled her youself yet?

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1177204]You're right Angus. I was being thoughtless and lazy. I see that you had some interest in her though. Why haven't you sampled her youself yet?[/QUOTE]So many girls. So little €.

When I do go a hunting it tends to be Artemis that gets my favor.

AM

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1177192]Still nobody has replied to my enquiry about Elena. The nice young KD girl with the spectacular rack. Hasn't anyone had the pleasure (or not)[/QUOTE]Er yes. Definitely a case where the promise is greater than the reality. I would not try her again.

Hello everyone.

I'm completely new to the site. In fact completely new to just about everything. I've been looking through this thread, and I am hoping perhaps you could be of a little help.

Here's the story.

I'm a 27 year old guy from Denmark on my way to Berlin to finally loose it. I figured I couldn't wait any longer, so now is the time. Last year I also vent to Berlin with the same intention, but all I got done was a BJ. This time I want the whole package. Since this is the first time for me, I was hoping for a little advice on where to go etc.

I would like some place where I can be sure they know how to help a virgin. You know. What goes where.

I've had my eye on these four places:

Tiffany (I like their emphasis on helping newcomers, and the girls seem to speak english)

Van Kampen (Beautiful girls, but the forum seems to think foreigners might not be as velcomed. I speak a little german, but for a first time, it might be good to have someone who speaks English. No need to throw language issues into the mix)

Royal (Beautiful girls, but do they speak english, and are they good with beginners)

Kamilla la Dee (Beautiful girls, english, seems to cater to beginners, little pricey)

Which place would you recommend going?

Also, how long should I arrange for the first time 20/30/40/60 min? I'm guessing I won't last long, so if I go for a one shot deal, the whole thing might be over with before the main event.

Any and all advice would really help.

Thank you

Hi Peter,

You don't want to leave Berlin thinking;"at least I got a blowjob".

Treat yourself to a full hour at Kamilla. Doesn't matter if you don't last long, they'll give you a massage, chat,

And before you know it, maybe you're ready for a second round. Take half a bluepill if you want to be safe.

At least you'll leave with a good memory.

L.

[QUOTE=Peter DK; 1177681]Hello, everyone.

I'm completely new to the site. In fact completely new to just about everything. I've been looking through this thread, and I am hoping perhaps you could be of a little help.

Here's the story.

I'm a 27 year old guy from Denmark on my way to Berlin to finally loose it. I figured I couldn't wait any longer, so now is the time. Last year I also vent to Berlin with the same intention, but all I got done was a BJ. This time I want the whole package. Since this is the first time for me, I was hoping for a little advice on where to go etc.

I would like some place where I can be sure they know how to help a virgin. You know. What goes where.

I've had my eye on these four places:

Tiffany (I like their emphasis on helping newcomers, and the girls seem to speak english)

Van Kampen (Beautiful girls, but the forum seems to think foreigners might not be as velcomed. I speak a little german, but for a first time, it might be good to have someone who speaks English. No need to throw language issues into the mix)

Royal (Beautiful girls, but do they speak english, and are they good with beginners)

Kamilla la Dee (Beautiful girls, english, seems to cater to beginners, little pricey)

Which place would you recommend going?

Also, how long should I arrange for the first time 20/30/40/60 min? I'm guessing I won't last long, so if I go for a one shot deal, the whole thing might be over with before the main event.

Any and all advice would really help.

Thank you[/QUOTE]

You are looking for a sure thing. However, realistically, any of those places are hit-and-miss, especially for a newcomer.

You should probably try Artemis and Kamilla la Dee. But for God's sake don't tell any of the girls you're a beginner. They don't respect it, no matter what it may say on the websites.

[QUOTE=Peter DK; 1177681]I'm a 27 year old guy from Denmark on my way to Berlin to finally loose it. I figured I couldn't wait any longer, so now is the time.

I've had my eye on these four places:

Tiffany (I like their emphasis on helping newcomers, and the girls seem to speak english)

Van Kampen (Beautiful girls, but the forum seems to think foreigners might not be as velcomed. I speak a little german, but for a first time, it might be good to have someone who speaks English. No need to throw language issues into the mix)

Royal (Beautiful girls, but do they speak english, and are they good with beginners)

Kamilla la Dee (Beautiful girls, english, seems to cater to beginners, little pricey) [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Peter DK; 1177681]. Etc.

I would like some place where I can be sure they know how to help a virgin. You know. What goes where.

Etc.[/QUOTE]If you choose Kamilla-Dee, my personal opinion is to write to Kira ([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/escort_2.htm[/url]) , to tell her the whole truth and ask her which ladies she would advise you. ([i]Of course, I should warn you that I would not give you back your money if you will get disappointed in following this advice of mine! [/i])

thanks. i can see that kamilla la dee comes highly recommended. i just think the price is a bit high, if i want to stop by more than once while i'm here. what wouls be the second choice?

[quote=the limey;1177754]you are looking for a sure thing. however, realistically, any of those places are hit-and-miss, . but for god's sake don't tell any of the girls you're a beginner. they don't respect it, no matter what it may say on the websites.[/quote]is that a hunch, or are you speeking from bad experience?

Hi P DK,

Remember when asking advise on such a forum-have a look at the advise giver's posting history. Try to determine where they are coming from. Some posters are more...ummm...motivated by their own sense of self importance. Some have a more genuine desire to point you in the right direction.

Which am I? Well have a look at my posting history and decide.

That said, I have to go with Bobo here. Kamilla Dee and tell them why you are there and what are your circumstances. KD are pros in the best sense of that word and will be happy that you chose them.

The other establishments you mention are all fine places. But in my experience KD is the one where you can most easily explain your needs and desires.

Artemis is a fine place but I would not go there until you have some experience under your belt. Not to say you could not find a fine woman there but it would be a lot more complex and complex is probably not what you need at first.

Good luck and keep us posted with how it goes.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1177814]Hi P DK,

Remember when asking advise on such a forum-try to determine where they are coming from. Some posters are more. Ummm. Motivated by their own sense of self importance. Some have a more genuine desire to point you in the right direction. That said, I have to go with Bobo here. Kamilla Dee and tell them why you are there and what are your circumstances. KD are pros in the best sense of that wordAM[/QUOTE]Peter. Good advice above, from real experts. Here is a counter argument FOR Artemis.

None of us knows you, your internal state of mind, experience etc. So all this is pure guess work. The problem with all these private apartments is whatever advice the Haus Mutti gives, or whatever impressions you have, the decision has to be made relatively quickly, with little or no discussion beforehand with a girl. And alot depends upon who is actually there that day, at that hour. Even if you explain to whomever what your situation is, you still are relying on their judgement of you, which also will be very quick, based upon an email, or a 1 minute talk. Ultimately, the person who knows you best, and will know best what you want, is you. So then the issue becomes-where can you get the most choices, information, time to decide. That logic argues for Artemis.

If you go to Artemis during say the afternoon, it is very chilled out, you can eat, swim, sauna, get a massage, and when you throw all that in, even the price of only one session compares quite favorably with a private pad. But the big (in my view, in your case huge) advantage, is that you can really take your time and talk to candidate partners. It does take a little discipline to sometimes resist pushy advances (what the veterans call here "sharking") , especially when surrounded by lots of attractive naked girls.

But Peter, you come from Viking stock, and it is your dick and your wallet, so you just resist when needed. No big deal. Just say no, politely. I think some mongers' feeling of pressure from women is really overblown. If you are a newbee, you will learn, another advantage of having a few hours to see how it all works, and what makes you comfortable. Rocket science it is not. Some young girl walks up to you and says loudly "sex baby?" She can barely speak any language you understand and has no desire to talk, to get to know you at all. You just decline. You just keep your wits about you. Simple.

Let us also be honest. The chemistry between 2 people is very difficult to predict in advance. Sometimes you will have a bad session. It happens. It can also happen with your girlfriend, with your wife, (or in my case, a pet sheep). It's part of life. If it happens at an apartment, then you leave with your tail between your legs, and then you have to decide-do I go somewhere else? I certainly have. Whereas, at Artemis, you just go down the stairs, wait a bit, and the game commences again. And once you're inside, at only 60 Eur for each experiment, the risk becomes affordable, which in some ways might actually remove some of the pressure you will no doubt feel. If a session is so so, it does not matter so much as there are plenty of other options, and right there.

Another possible tip is go with a slightly older woman-late 20s early 30s. They have have a lot more experience, they are not under such money pressure, and they will probably find a semi-virgin a welcome and curious change from their usual clients.

Since you have basically all day and night, you can chat to women, and really take your time, feel out the vibe, and get in your comfort zone. That will be a massive help. You can also talk with other guys, who may have just been with one of your candidate choices. If this really is to be your first time, having some males to clown around with might be fun, vs just soloing around apartments in a strange city. Another plus for the club atmosphere.

If you just take your time (during the day when things are slower, women are bored and a long 30+ minute chat is easy) , relax about it all, you will know when it seems right. If you can talk easily, chances are surely better you´ll click bed. Touch her hand or caress her a little. See if she might even kiss you. Romance is not at all dead even in hardened Artemis. But once the vibe seems right, you should remember to discuss before heading off to a room, what you want and whether she is willing. Kissing or not should definitely be confirmed, a bare back BJ comes included in the 30 min price (current Artemis discussion on this subject also seems a little overblown. Pun intended). If you are in a private apartment, the same rule applies. Be clear what is expected vs what will be delivered. That will take a lot of pressure off.

In general, there will probably be around 10-20 women on in the afternoon, perhaps double that at night, say by 19:30. All things being equal, Wed-Sat are better days, with 2 caveats-Wed is "dessous day" where all prance around in underwear (vs the other days when they are naked which obviously lets you see what you will get). Fri & Sat night, especially after 22:00 can get busy. But if you are there before the early Sept Messe, it´s not an issue. Very calm at the moment and will be through mid August for sure. As you can stay for many hours, there is no pressure to choose quickly, and if no one strikes your fancy in the afternoon, you wait til the evening shift drifts in. Bring a book, hang out on the roof terrace, or out back outside the pool. Here the soothing sounds of German trains rushing by.

But the point is, you need an atmosphere where you can easily relax and take your time and really talk to the girls, and where declining an offer is easy and has little downside. Here, Artemis has a big advantage. If you decide to do this, just take your time, and talk. If you have doubts, don't, even if she is hot hot hot. Intuition is a good guide in these things, and it will no doubt improve with practice.

If you decide to take the Love Bahnhoff route, you could announce the day in advance, and possibly, one of the veterans might be there. You could ask them to send you a private message and one might meet up. It is good having a wingman, though you will make friends there. Just if you do announce it, it's probably best to explain this briefly again, posting on the ISG Artemis thread (2588), not here. No, I don't own shares in Artemis (I wish).

But as all have said, KD is a fine place. I am a big fan of flats. You could try both. Good luck whatever you decide, and let us know. Helps us as well to know if our advice was good, or useless. As always, your own mileage may vary. Sorry for the book length entry, just trying to imagine again what it was like for me, those 85 years and 20 million Euros ago....

RB

[QUOTE=Peter DK; 1177681]Hello, everyone.

Thank you[/QUOTE]Hej Peter,

My advice go visit FKK Artemis and you'll have a mindblowing experience, there are up to 80-100-150 lovely ladies to play with.

And the chance of meeting other Danes and Nordic people is high.

See around.

Nille

I know Rocketboy better than I know anyone on this forum. Nille C I know from his posts which are upstanding as far as I am concerned. I am sure both are coming from a genuine desire to help in the right direction. However, I feel I must disagree with the recommendation they both make.

As RB points out, none of us really know exactly where you are coming from or, I might add, the circumstances that led you to this point in space and time. Specifically why, at 27, you are as yet a virgin. I guess I make certain assumptions about it. I am guessing we all do.

Truth be told I am thinking that discussing this is an open forum may not be the best course of action. But I feel I would need to know a bit more about you before standing behind the Artemis option. You have seen several replies. Some I am in agreement with, some less so. If you feel to say more about your circumstance feel free. If you want a more private discusion (albiet a more one sided one as it would only be me discussing) feel free to contact me through my blog.

[url]www.angusmagee.com[/url]

Instructions are there.

AM

P.S. of the place you mention this is how I would rank them.

Kamilla Dee-1st choice
Royal-2nd
and VK & Tiffanies in a tie for last place.

VK-fine girls but IME the management is weak
Tifs-a bit too pro in the bad sense of the word

Thank you everyone.

Bobo and Angus you convinced me, so Kamilla la Dee it was. I could never imagine going to an FKK club for my first time (if ever).

Things went well, and all together it was a pretty relaxed affair. I actually chose one of the girls I had seen on their webpage, and went for 45 min. And yes, in hindsight I should perhaps have gone for a full hour. Now I know.

For the record, I decided to be upfront about the whole beginner thing, and I think that was the right thing to do.

By the way Angus. I saw your webpage, and I think it is a great thing. I think there are many out there looking for a qualified source of info.

Now I'm goning to let this sink in, and then see where I go from here.

Again, thank you all.

Good on ya, Peter. Now you're ready for marriage.

Yup.

L.

[QUOTE=Peter DK; 1178470]Thank you everyone.

Bobo and Angus you convinced me, so Kamilla la Dee it was. I could never imagine going to an FKK club for my first time (if ever).

Things went well, and all together it was a pretty relaxed affair. I actually chose one of the girls I had seen on their webpage, and went for 45 min. And yes, in hindsight I should perhaps have gone for a full hour. Now I know.

For the record, I decided to be upfront about the whole beginner thing, and I think that was the right thing to do.

By the way Angus. I saw your webpage, and I think it is a great thing. I think there are many out there looking for a qualified source of info.

Now I'm goning to let this sink in, and then see where I go from here.

Again, thank you all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Peter DK; 1178470]By the way Angus. I saw your webpage, and I think it is a great thing. I think there are many out there looking for a qualified source of info.

Now I'm goning to let this sink in, and then see where I go from here. Again, thank you all.[/QUOTE]Glad it all worked out so well for you.

[QUOTE=Peter DK; 1178470]Thank you everyone.

Again, thank you all.[/QUOTE]Hej Peter DK,

Next time, try Artemis and you'll forget all about KD,

I'll gladly take you under my wings for a FKK tour.

Nille

Hi.

I had a session with Lucy from the Klein und Zierlich agency this week.

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-lucy.html[/url]

She is pretty enough, with a slightly rounder face than depicted on the website and speaks excellent English. She arrived punctually, as is the norm with KZ girls. She is friendly, chatty and confident.

This session was, however, an overall disappointment. She is simply too inexperienced for my taste, delivering a basic and unexciting BBBJ and a starfish fuck. In between, a prolonged DATY produced almost no reaction from her at all and I got the overall impression that she really hated the whole experience of whoring. No reason why an 18 year old girl shouldn't be disgusted by being accosted by a revolting old git like me of course, but I have been with at least 6 of the girls from this agency and all the others have managed to engage to a far greater degree than Lucy.

I have no doubt that other guys would have proved a more acceptable partner to her, but I cannot attribute the entire failure to an absence of chemistry or my own inadequacies. She is purporting to be a professional after all.

I can't recommend this one in all honesty, but I still favour this agency strongly and can vouch for both Anna and (especially) Corinna with some enthusiasm. The adorable Madeleine and her sexy sister Simona were also fabulous experiences from Klein und Zierlich, but both sadly now seem unlikely to return to Berlin.

120E was the damage. I have previously paid as much as 150E for girls from this stable. Perhaps this should have been a warning sign for me. They tend to price their girls according to popularity.

I'll give Ramonna a spin next time in town and let you know if she's any more promising. Angus has told me that the German boards have given her favourable reviews in recent weeks.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Peter DK; 1178470]Thank you everyone.

Kamilla la Dee it was. Things went well, and all together it was a pretty relaxed affair.[/QUOTE]I would love an absolute beginners report from you.

Hello fellow mongers,

I watched a nice documentary recently about Fredrich the Great, who appears to be an extraordinary character. On a whim, and after reading all the good reports on here. And on Angus' blog. I decided to blow 2000 euros on a three-day Berlin trip, and immerse myself in the kultur. Euh, culture the place has to offer.

I arrived early morning (7 o'clock) , and wandered around Alexanderplatz for a bit. Then I headed to Museum Island and checked out an art museum focused on 19th century. I never thought of Berlin to be this nice really. I booked a 4-hour tour of the town on a Segway, which made my journey around town both instructive and fun. Those things are dangerous in traffic though.

Anyway. Around 1900, I checked out at my hotel (Astoria am Kurfurstanddam, a 3-star really clean hotel with an excellent breakfast buffet at 50 euro a night) and was so knacked from a day of standing up that I collapsed on the bed. But I had visions of women pleasing me, so I went out, ate at a nice Italian restaurant (Nuevo Mario) and took a cab to Kamilla La Dee. It was closed, so I went to Artemis. My, oh my. Nothing prepares you for all the girls at your fingertip. The desk-girls tells you the details in a mechanical way. So fast in fact, that I didn't understand much. Good thing I browsed the Artemis thread beforehand.

I sit in the smoking lounge, order a drink and after two minutes, my eyes caught a blonde doll. Maribelle (or some-such) from Roumania. She was completely naked. I lock eye contact with her for two seconds and that was enough for her to come within 5 cms of me and flaunt her goods at my face. We go for an hour and pop two quick ones. She kisses, but no DFK. No anal either (I'm an anal virgin).

Then I decide to get out and go to sleep. On my way down, I see blonde cute Cindy from Poland (I have a type!). Couldn't resist. Off we go again. Cindy's not very enthusiastic and doesn't kiss at all, but she's very considerate and polite. Also, besides her teeth, she's a knock-out!

After this, I thought that I might as well check out the place (I'd only been to the smokers lounge at that point). I see masseurs at the pool and I get a brilliant rub for 40 minutes. These guys know what they're doing. So I head to the restaurant, have a clementine, and decide to go home. Then I get called by two Italian chicks (one of them (Alexandra I think) is gorgeous. The other (Roxy) has an ugly face) trying to sell a three-way. Alexandra's (or a similar sounding name) eye are so beautiful that she talks me into heading up with both. In the room, both of them blow me. Then, Roxy fucks me really nicely in cow-girl. Then I take Alexandra doggy style. Won't do this three-way again. Waste of money. Especially that these girls are pushy and kept selling a lesbian show and asked for tips afterwards.

On my way out of this paradise for boys, I keep my head down to avoid being lurred by yet another mermaid.

Then next morning, I had an appointement at Kashima. A good-looking German blonde named Julia opens the door. She is probably the most gracious, attentive girl that ever fiddled with my poutso. I had booked the slightly more expensive 230 euros massage for 3 hours, so that may be why I got the A-game. We talk for a while in a fantastic environment. She asks me about my expectations, and tells me that erections are "welcome" but that the point was to focus on feelings. Now, I'm as rational as they come. So I was very skeptical about this. I blurt out that her presence is making me unconfortable (which it was). She is really THAT pretty and classy. I take a shower. Then the magic begins. I won't go into details. But all I will say is that I felt love towards her when she touched me, sadness that she's way out of my league, anger about all the power I give pretty girls over me, happiness that I was right then and there, and many more feelings. It was so nice that I asked for 30 minutes more (40 euros). At that point, I ask for an orgasm. But while jerking me, she kept telling me to relax and that I shouldn't focus on the orgasm, but on the journey. At the end, she says that I should feel free to masturbate but that it would be better if I didn't. Well. I didn't. I felt an altered state of consciousness all afternoon.

Then I had lunch, walk around for a bit. I decided to check out the brothels. Liberty was close by, so I went there around 1700. There was only girls that's far from what I'm looking for. So I took a cab and headed to Artemis again. A blond Polish girl by the name of Maya gave me a nice session. Then I had a one-hour massage by the pool. And on my way out, I met Cindy and off I go again. And I left. It felt weird paying 80 euros for 2 hours at the facility, but the girl choice beats having to go around brothels to find the "perle rare".

The next day, I spent five hours roaming around the Historical Museum (Deutsches Historiches) which I highly recommend. After leaving, I had lunch then took a cab directly to Kamilla La Dee around 1500 where I was introduced to five lovely girls, and I picked Aphrodita. A Russian blonde with legs that go for miles. For an hour-long session at 160 euros. A better fuck than what I got at Artemis for sure. After the first pop which took about 15-20 minutes, she started to massage my chest. That went for 15mns at which point I asked her to go about her business. I meant it in such a way that I was satisfied and we could end the session here so that she may maximize her income. But she didn't understand it that way and went on to give me a fantastic blowjob that drew all the blood out of my hands (what is that by the way? The best orgasms I have always leave my hands tingly as if I had slept on them).

Out I go to smoke a cigarette and head to the shopping mall Ka-De-We to check out the latest fashion and gadgets. It had been recommended to me by a cabby, but it's certainly not anything to write home about. I get a beer or two. Go back to my hotel where I'm thinking of calling it a day. But the little guy won again, and I find myself out going to Liberty. I took a cab and told the guy to take me to Martin-Luther Strasse. I asked the guy how it's pronounced in German. He didn't catch the question and asks if I was going to the "sex place". I got embarrassed and changed the topic. He said that the "place" was "good". His taxi-English didn't help. Anyway. Upon discovoring that we share a common language that we're both fluent in, I managed to extract the German pronunciation of Martin-Luther. This time it was earlier than the day before, and there were 6 girls available. Everyone more interesting than the last. I went with the last one. A 23 year old German brunette that goes by the name of Lucy. Now. It should be obvious at this point that I'm bananas about blondes. But this brunette was just so good looking and charming that I forewent (is that proper English?) the two blondes that were on the menu. She gets my drink and takes me to a room. We talk for a few minutes. She tells me that kissing is extra. That I might finger her, dildo her, CIM or COB for a fee too. I ask about anal and she relunctantly says that she'd be OK with a gentle (not hard-core) anal session. I pick the anal extra (40 euros) and one hour. It was 180 euros total. What a girl! The best fuck I had in Berlin for sure. Not only because I popped my anal cherry with her, but because of her amazing good-natured personality. She blows me, then rides me, then missionary, then doggie, then blowing again, then anal. To a finish. I loved it. She didn't stop smiling the entire time. Very service oriented girl with an amazing personality and a rocking face / body combo to boot. Two thumbs up for Lucy from Liberty. Out of there, I stop at the Argentinian restaurant next to Liberty where I had an amazing meal (it's run by Tunisians, not Turks, you culturally insensitive clods!).

What more can I say. Ich liebe Berlin!

Hello fellow mongers,

I watched a nice documentary recently about Fredrich the Great, who appears to be an extraordinary character. On a whim, and after reading all the good reports on here. And on Angus' blog. I decided to blow 2000 euros on a three-day Berlin trip, and immerse myself in the kultur. Euh, culture the place has to offer.

I arrived early morning (7 o'clock) , and wandered around Alexanderplatz for a bit. Then I headed to Museum Island and checked out an art museum focused on 19th century. I never thought of Berlin to be this nice really. I booked a 4-hour tour of the town on a Segway, which made my journey around town both instructive and fun. Those things are dangerous in traffic though.

Anyway. Around 1900, I checked out at my hotel (Astoria am Kurfurstanddam, a 3-star really clean hotel with an excellent breakfast buffet at 50 euro a night) and was so knacked from a day of standing up that I collapsed on the bed. But I had visions of women pleasing me, so I went out, ate at a nice Italian restaurant (Nuevo Mario) and took a cab to Kamilla La Dee. It was closed, so I went to Artemis. My, oh my. Nothing prepares you for all the girls at your fingertip. The desk-girls tells you the details in a mechanical way. So fast in fact, that I didn't understand much. Good thing I browsed the Artemis thread beforehand.

I sit in the smoking lounge, order a drink and after two minutes, my eyes caught a blonde doll. Maribelle (or some-such) from Roumania. She was completely naked. I lock eye contact with her for two seconds and that was enough for her to come within 5 cms of me and flaunt her goods at my face. We go for an hour and pop two quick ones. She kisses, but no DFK. No anal either (I'm an anal virgin).

Then I decide to get out and go to sleep. On my way down, I see blonde cute Cindy from Poland (I have a type!). Couldn't resist. Off we go again. Cindy's not very enthusiastic and doesn't kiss at all, but she's very considerate and polite. Also, besides her teeth, she's a knock-out!

After this, I thought that I might as well check out the place (I'd only been to the smokers lounge at that point). I see masseurs at the pool and I get a brilliant rub for 40 minutes. These guys know what they're doing. So I head to the restaurant, have a clementine, and decide to go home. Then I get called by two Italian chicks (one of them (Alexandra I think) is gorgeous. The other (Roxy) has an ugly face) trying to sell a three-way. Alexandra's (or a similar sounding name) eye are so beautiful that she talks me into heading up with both. In the room, both of them blow me. Then, Roxy fucks me really nicely in cow-girl. Then I take Alexandra doggy style. Won't do this three-way again. Waste of money. Especially that these girls are pushy and kept selling a lesbian show and asked for tips afterwards.

On my way out of this paradise for boys, I keep my head down to avoid being lurred by yet another mermaid.

Then next morning, I had an appointement at Kashima. A good-looking German blonde named Julia opens the door. She is probably the most gracious, attentive girl that ever fiddled with my poutso. I had booked the slightly more expensive 230 euros massage for 3 hours, so that may be why I got the A-game. We talk for a while in a fantastic environment. She asks me about my expectations, and tells me that erections are "welcome" but that the point was to focus on feelings. Now, I'm as rational as they come. So I was very skeptical about this. I blurt out that her presence is making me unconfortable (which it was). She is really THAT pretty and classy. I take a shower. Then the magic begins. I won't go into details. But all I will say is that I felt love towards her when she touched me, sadness that she's way out of my league, anger about all the power I give pretty girls over me, happiness that I was right then and there, and many more feelings. It was so nice that I asked for 30 minutes more (40 euros). At that point, I ask for an orgasm. But while jerking me, she kept telling me to relax and that I shouldn't focus on the orgasm, but on the journey. At the end, she says that I should feel free to masturbate but that it would be better if I didn't. Well. I didn't. I felt an altered state of consciousness all afternoon.

Then I had lunch, walk around for a bit. I decided to check out the brothels. Liberty was close by, so I went there around 1700. There was only girls that's far from what I'm looking for. So I took a cab and headed to Artemis again. A blond Polish girl by the name of Maya gave me a nice session. Then I had a one-hour massage by the pool. And on my way out, I met Cindy and off I go again. And I left. It felt weird paying 80 euros for 2 hours at the facility, but the girl choice beats having to go around brothels to find the "perle rare".

The next day, I spent five hours roaming around the Historical Museum (Deutsches Historiches) which I highly recommend. After leaving, I had lunch then took a cab directly to Kamilla La Dee around 1500 where I was introduced to five lovely girls, and I picked Aphrodita. A Russian blonde with legs that go for miles. For an hour-long session at 160 euros. A better fuck than what I got at Artemis for sure. After the first pop which took about 15-20 minutes, she started to massage my chest. That went for 15mns at which point I asked her to go about her business. I meant it in such a way that I was satisfied and we could end the session here so that she may maximize her income. But she didn't understand it that way and went on to give me a fantastic blowjob that drew all the blood out of my hands (what is that by the way? The best orgasms I have always leave my hands tingly as if I had slept on them).

Out I go to smoke a cigarette and head to the shopping mall Ka-De-We to check out the latest fashion and gadgets. It had been recommended to me by a cabby, but it's certainly not anything to write home about. I get a beer or two. Go back to my hotel where I'm thinking of calling it a day. But the little guy won again, and I find myself out going to Liberty. I took a cab and told the guy to take me to Martin-Luther Strasse. I asked the guy how it's pronounced in German. He didn't catch the question and asks if I was going to the "sex place". I got embarrassed and changed the topic. He said that the "place" was "good". His taxi-English didn't help. Anyway. Upon discovoring that we share a common language that we're both fluent in, I managed to extract the German pronunciation of Martin-Luther. This time it was earlier than the day before, and there were 6 girls available. Everyone more interesting than the last. I went with the last one. A 23 year old German brunette that goes by the name of Lucy. Now. It should be obvious at this point that I'm bananas about blondes. But this brunette was just so good looking and charming that I forewent (is that proper English?) the two blondes that were on the menu. She gets my drink and takes me to a room. We talk for a few minutes. She tells me that kissing is extra. That I might finger her, dildo her, CIM or COB for a fee too. I ask about anal and she relunctantly says that she'd be OK with a gentle (not hard-core) anal session. I pick the anal extra (40 euros) and one hour. It was 180 euros total. What a girl! The best fuck I had in Berlin for sure. Not only because I popped my anal cherry with her, but because of her amazing good-natured personality. She blows me, then rides me, then missionary, then doggie, then blowing again, then anal. To a finish. I loved it. She didn't stop smiling the entire time. Very service oriented girl with an amazing personality and a rocking face / body combo to boot. Two thumbs up for Lucy from Liberty. Out of there, I stop at the Argentinian restaurant next to Liberty where I had an amazing meal (it's run by Tunisians, not Turks, you culturally insensitive clods!).

What more can I say. Ich liebe Berlin!

Guys,

Today I was ripped-off by [url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Lina-26938.html[/url] Lina. Agreed for 150 / h for one hour (I know already upscale price for Berlin). After the first pop I was asked to use the shower and upon return in the room it was made clear that's the end. I mentioned that we agreed one hour but instead of they tried to trick me and offered me the real Lina and mentioned the other girl was Lara. I left after 25 minutes and strongly warn against these two girls.

Regards, T

Hummm. Smells like spam to me.

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During my last visit to KD's I picked up one of their business cards picturing a gorgeous blonde with long curly hair.

Of course I forgot to ask the Madam who this particular girl is.

Does anyone have a clue? Many thanks!

[QUOTE=Horny Harry; 1180309]During my last visit to KD's I picked up one of their business cards picturing a gorgeous blonde with long curly hair.

Of course I forgot to ask the Madam who this particular girl is.

Does anyone have a clue? Many thanks![/QUOTE]Never seen the card, but could it be Aphrodite? She's got some very long blond hair on her.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/aphrodite-e.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Horny Harry;1180309]Does anyone have a clue? Many thanks![/QUOTE]If you can scan the card and put up a pic in the photo section maybe that would help I'd her.

And I think it may well be Aphrodite as she is photogenic and has been there a while. Note that the photo may well be a few years old.

AM

Inspired by the report by user Choukchouk below on Lucy.

[url]http://libertyberlin.de/lucy.html[/url]

And after a long absence from paysex, I thought I would give Liberty a visit. Checking the website I saw Lucy to be scheduled from 4 pm and I also noticed Melina.

[url]http://libertyberlin.de/melina.html[/url]

Was back on the scene, also from 4 on the same day. So I reckoned I would have a good chance of encountering one of them in the parade if I turned up at 4. Alas, Lucy did not appear but Melina was there and a few other cute and not so cute babes besides. I almost never go with the same girl twice and I had already had a session with Melina in Salon Prestige 5 years back but I was captivated by her at that time, and so I settled for her. The damage was 100 Euro for 30 min, including BBBJ, kissing and splattering my goo around her sweet little mouth. Actually it seemed quite expensive, considering I've had more or less the same for a whole hour session under different circumstances. All in all the session was OK and I left with a smile on my face, although she made artificial moaning sounds which put me off a bit. I remember 5 years back Melina had an extremely tasty pussy and although still reasonably tasty, doesn't beat that of a 21 year old. Speaking to her at the end she said she remembered me from Salon Prestige, which I found impressive, considering she must have had about 3000 guys in her career. I must admit, she looked diferent to the previous image of her I had in my mind, perhaps a little more Asian looking than what I can remember. By the way, the photos are not up to date, she's been using the same snaps for 6 or 7 years.

Thinking to try something different, without exagerations :-) on next trip. I'll be there for 3 days and could avoid 3 visits to Artemis.

Looking at the Partytreff flat rate stuff. Not for the economics, just for a change.

Summarizing the Partytreff situation in Berlin as I read from the threads:

- Caligula is a rip off.

- Pussyclub has closed down.

- King George just decent.

Am I interpretating correctly the info? Any other clubs to suggest.

Alternative is to finally visit KD and maybe VK but I prefer the "club" situations.

BTW: during messe times, Artemis can be crowded, is this what happens also to bordellos durin messe periods? Might sound like a stupid question.

Ciao.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1181028]Thinking to try something different, without exagerations. On next trip. I'll be there for 3 days and could avoid 3 visits to Artemis.

Looking at the Partytreff flat rate stuff. Not for the economics, just for a change.

Summarizing the Partytreff situation in Berlin as I read from the threads:

- Caligula is a rip off.

- Pussyclub has closed down.

- King George just decent.

Am I interpretating correctly the info? Any other clubs to suggest.

Alternative is to finally visit KD and maybe VK but I prefer the "club" situations.

BTW: during messe times, Artemis can be crowded, is this what happens also to bordellos durin messe periods? Might sound like a stupid question.

Ciao.

Kimino[/QUOTE]The three you mention are not really Partytreff but Flatrate clubs. The difference being, as I understand it, that the Partytreff has a slightly more public sex feel to it. Between Caligula and the KG I really think the KG is a better bet but do not expect in anyway Artemis standards. The sex is very much bare bones no frills service. Good for the experience be but not much else.

Why not look into Insomnia? It is more of a swingers / GB scene but I have heard good things about it. Try a search in this thread as I am certain there are reports on it.

[url]http://www.insomnia-berlin.de/popup_english.html[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1181032]The three you mention are not really Partytreff but Flatrate clubs. The difference being, as I understand it, that the Partytreff has a slightly more public sex feel to it. Between Caligula and the KG I really think the KG is a better bet but do not expect in anyway Artemis standards. The sex is very much bare bones no frills service. Good for the experience be but not much else.

Why not look into Insomnia? It is more of a swingers / GB scene but I have heard good things about it. Try a search in this thread as I am certain there are reports on it.

[url]http://www.insomnia-berlin.de/popup_english.html[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]thanks for the explanation Angus!

Insomnia looks interesting. I'll need a wingman. Maybe 2 or 3. Hahahaha.

Best!

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1181058]thanks for the explanation Angus!

Insomnia looks interesting. I'll need a wingman. Maybe 2 or 3. Hahahaha.

Best![/QUOTE]You're going to have to count me out for this one Kimino!

Happy to throw off a hundred euros with you at KG one evening or to do one of the up-market bordelles together, but SM group-sex gangbangs are not for me thanks.

Monrouge has a nice bar where one can hang out before and between sessions, and as such does a reasonable imitation of a very small club, and the girls are really pretty and offer top-notch service (albeit at somewhat fancy prices these days)

We'll no doubt be in touch before your next visit (early September if I remember correctly) , but if you are looking for a more varied diet for your next trip then I am happy act as your nutritional consultant.

Best.

Charlie

I am afraid I am also out for this one. I just am not at all attracted to the GB aspect of such clubs. While I know that any given Artemis hooker has had several other dicks inside her on any given night, the private room allows me to wilfully ignore this fact and carry on as if I were her only suitor for the evening. The thought of several guys all standing around banging her at the same time makes me...um... Wilt.

There are, however, a number of small off the beaten road type bars in and around Berlin that I have often thought might be worth checking out. If you are interested, Kimino, I can come up with a few links. Trouble is that I feel you would need a fairly open wallet to explore these places. Not that any one is so expensive but you may well have to do a bit of taxi-ing. There is also the possibility of the champagne question being thrown your way at these places. This is, after all, one of the ways both the bar and the girls make money.

Maybe I am getting old but for me Artemis seems, though a wee pricey, the best place that balances good looking women with a refreshing lack of over all hassel. My last visit, with Geko79 last Wednesday, was a very pleasing evening.

AM

Charlie, Angus, you know me. :-)

I talk, I talk and then I always end up up at Artemis. With a big smile in my face.

After visiting Villach I know I'll be criticizing the bar at Artemis for the first 10 minutes, then I'll be happy as usual.

Lineup will probably be at it's best, being IFA period.

Anyways, I did read a bit better the insomnia stuff and, yes, I'm also a lot less attracted.

But positive I want to at least visit KD this round.

Ciaooo

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1177209]So many girls. So little €.

When I do go a hunting it tends to be Artemis that gets my favor.

AM[/QUOTE]As I wrote in " [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1162576#post1162576[/url] ", up to 2 hours meeting, KD costs less than Artemis

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1181067]We'll no doubt be in touch before your next visit (early September if I remember correctly)[/QUOTE]Yes!

5/6/7 sept.

Leaving with early flight on 8 sept.

Best

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1181067]Monrouge has a nice bar where one can hang out before and between sessions, and as such does a reasonable imitation of a very small club, and the girls are really pretty and offer top-notch service (albeit at somewhat fancy prices these days)[/QUOTE]I visited MR last Thursday. Took a taxi to Leibnizst. 57, rang the doorbell and walked up the stairs to a flat on the first floor. I was a bit surprised. The flat looked nothing like the website-video. Much more shabby (chic). Ok'ish bathroom. I didn't see a bar. Was shown to a room right away and presented with a line-up of 1 girl. Sybel. Then the proverbial guided skulk to the showers, to avoid other guests.

Why is MR presented as an open club with a bar etc on the website? The place is more like KD.

(Oh, and thank the gods for Sybel BTW. Doesn't get much better than that, IMHO)

L.

[QUOTE=Lime73; 1181554]I visited MR last Thursday. Took a taxi to Leibnizst. 57, rang the doorbell and walked up the stairs to a flat on the first floor. I was a bit surprised. The flat looked nothing like the website-video. Much more shabby (chic). Ok'ish bathroom. I didn't see a bar. Was shown to a room right away and presented with a line-up of 1 girl. Sybel. Then the proverbial guided skulk to the showers, to avoid other guests.

Why is MR presented as an open club with a bar etc on the website? The place is more like KD.

(Oh, and thank the gods for Sybel BTW. Doesn't get much better than that, IMHO)

L.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she's great, huh?

Really sexy girl. I liked her a lot.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Lime73;1181554]IWhy is MR presented as an open club with a bar etc on the website? The place is more like KD.[/QUOTE]I have never used the bar at MR but it is off to the left from the foyer that you step into upon entering. I always visited MR in the later afternoon when they had their afternoon special (€100 for the hour session) that is probably not any longer available. My feeling was that the bar was used later in the evening if at all.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1180530]If you can scan the card and put up a pic in the photo section maybe that would help I'd her.

And I think it may well be Aphrodite as she is photogenic and has been there a while. Note that the photo may well be a few years old.

AM[/QUOTE]Sorry, I have no scanner but it's no real big deal. I was just curious is anyone knows her. Thanks for the replies!

It has been a good long while since I had a session at a bordello. But every once in a while I see a girl on a web page and get a good feeling that she will be worth the visit. This plus Starlight Modelle has pretty much the best prices in a somewhat upscale bordello I have seen. The price for a half hour session with FO (BBBJ no cim) ringing in at a scant €55 (actually the half hour is €44 plus €10 for FO, but I did not ask for my €1 change)

July is a young German national of 22 years. She is bright, easy to talk to, damn pretty and has one of the tightest bodies I have seen in a long while. Of particular note-her breasts-large A's or maybe small B's they are, in my opinion, pretty well perfectly shaped. The session was fun, not spectacular but I have the feeling that she would melt even more on subsequent visits. And I might well find out as the repetition factor is high for me.

All in all a very nice, conveniently located bordello which is clean and keeps its' price low.

[url]http://www.starlight-modelle.de/model.php?recordID=29[/url]

If you can find a girl who appeals to you, you can not go wrong here for the price.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1181886][url]http://www.starlight-modelle.de/model.php?recordID=29[/url]

If you can find a girl who appeals to you, you can not go wrong here for the price.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report.

As you say, unusual for you these days to frequent the bordelle scene.

I like the look of the tits on Dirty Doris:-

[url]http://www.starlight-modelle.de/model.php?recordID=30[/url]

Might give her a go next time I'm in town. I'll pm you when jump between her tits. If I haven't surfaced after 3 hours then send in a search party to find me.

Best,

C

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1182299]Might give her a go next time I'm in town. I'll pm you when jump between her tits. If I haven't surfaced after 3 hours then send in a search party to find me.[/QUOTE]I think you may need a couple of sherpas to help you explore those hills Charlie.

At least though it will not cost you a whole lot to find out. The nice thing about this place.

AM

Is it possible to popp several times in Starlight. Any rec. On a good GFE experience in Starlight?

Evening all,

I'm going to Berlin in a short while, and so have been "researching" my visit on this site.

Forgive me if I've missed this question answered before (I've had a good route around using the search / reports of distinction).

But I'm kind of looking for a bit of a porn star experience (as opposed to a GFE). Basically a girl (or girls) who act out a porn film type fantasy. Are there any about in the bordells or among the escorts?

Of course if I do go find some and go ahead with it, I'll report back.

Ps thanks for all the other reports all, they've been very helpful.

[QUOTE=NightHard;1182645]Is it possible to popp several times in Starlight. Any rec. On a good GFE experience in Starlight?[/QUOTE]That I do not know as generally I plan for one pop per session. It is generally accepted practice in Berlin that the hour long session includes 2 finishes if you can manage that. You might want to check though with the girl before paying if it is very important to you.

AM

[QUOTE=Encona; 1182650]Evening all,

I'm going to Berlin in a short while, and so have been "researching" my visit on this site.

Forgive me if I've missed this question answered before (I've had a good route around using the search / reports of distinction).

But I'm kind of looking for a bit of a porn star experience (as opposed to a GFE). Basically a girl (or girls) who act out a porn film type fantasy. Are there any about in the bordells or among the escorts?

Of course if I do go find some and go ahead with it, I'll report back.

Ps thanks for all the other reports all, they've been very helpful.[/QUOTE]Tiffany's cater for almost everything.

[url]http://www.ritter11.de/[/url]

The place is a bit of a 'factory', but very professionally run and offers good service. It's not the best place to find a loving GFE, but a genuine PSE shouldn't be difficult to organise. They tend to deliver what they advertise, so if you comission any particular type of service then you are likely to receive exactly that. I suggest that you call up and explain exactly what you are looking for and they will recommend a few girls that offer this and who will be available on the date in question. Then book an appointment. This is not a place to turn up on spec if you want to be taken seriously.

Good luck.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1182889]Tiffany's cater for almost everything.[/QUOTE]Good call on this one I would say.

On the escort side of things there.

[url]http://www.fernanda18.de.vu/[/url]

I can not vouch for her personally but I can tell you that she gets universally good write ups by the locals and is considered to be one of the best PSE escorts around. You may have to speak a bit of German (or Polish) to communicate though. But she has a single price (€90 I think) and that includes everything, even anal. Apparently she is really into facials and seeing herself in the mirror.

She is also said to be a busy girl and not easy to book.

AM

Thanks for your suggestions guys, appreciate it.

I'll look into those, and will report back If I go to either.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1182889]Tiffany's . It's not the best place to find a loving GFE[/QUOTE]That's a very helpful insight, Charlie. Have you any thoughts on where that best place might be, please?

@Kimino.

I have almost tried every GB in Berlin, and I give five stars to this place. As an former Artemis-addict, this place is the best medicine.

[url]http://erlebniswohnung.de/home.html[/url]

Insomnia is really cool place in matter of design and image, but it lacks to give me the feeling of being loved.

I need love.

Much love,

Ciao

[QUOTE=Reporter2010;1183036]That's a very helpful insight, Charlie. Have you any thoughts on where that best place might be, please?[/QUOTE]My suggestions for GFE's would be.

Monrouge.

KLD.

FKK Artemis (read the thread for recommendations from experienced posters)

At Monrouge, I can particularily recommend Maya, Sybel & Monica. I have written a number of reports on girls from this bordelle on this thread. Do a search if you are interested in more details. Prices have gone up at Monrouge considerably since they 'merged' with Bel Ami, so it is not longer the bargain establishment that it was previously. Still highly recommended though.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby; 1183183]I have almost tried every GB in Berlin, and I give five stars to this place. As an former Artemis-addict, this place is the best medicine.

[url]http://erlebniswohnung.de/home.html[/url]

[/QUOTE]Hi ZB.

I wonder if you could give us a run down on this place. Things like prices, structure, quality of ladies in looks and service etc.

I for one would be interested.

AM

Thanks for advice Charlie. Much appreciated!

@Sir Angus Magee.

I hope I can enlighten you with my poor english. My advices are based on approx. 10 visits. The place is run by a polite and quiet turkish man called Mustafa, and there are a few nice german people in the food and cleaning department. There are several pictures on their website which are selfexplanatory regarding the apartment in Karl Marx strasse 155. The place seems lesser crowded in the beginning of the week, and the number of girls are lower. The girls are recruited from [url]www.poppen.de[/url] And [url]www.kaufmich.de[/url] And are between 18-40 years. Depending on the time of the week, you will meet between 4 up to 8 girls in every colour and shape. They are good-looking normal girls without enhanced breasts and high heels. This is the absolute best part of this place. It has no businness-vibes, it's just like you are visiting some friends. People are there to have a good time, both germans and a few foreigners. Prices are between 90-100 euro for the entire stay, and there are never any extras at any time. Some of the girls do not kiss and do only CBJ, others I have experienced giving me service with BBBJ CIM, DFK, GFE, licking balls, giving massage and even swallowing (happened once).

The fucking happens in two separate rooms, even though I have had sex in the bathrooms and even one time this young german princess gave me a BBBJ in the sauna. My strategy is to be there 5-10 minutes before opening time which depends on which day you are going there. This page is updated and is a reliable source:

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Event/Kalender-0-1.html[/url]

By being there early you will avoid all the other bratwursts and krakauers, and several times I have had one and two finishes without participating in a gangbang. Personally I am not excited by seeing other guys dicks, but there are obviously guys there enjoying this and wanking while they look at you getting a BJ. After a while you get used to this, and please note that this are the same guys you were discussing politics, stocks, weather, Yin and Yang, sun and moon with ten minutes earlier.

As you can see from the website the opening times vary a lot. Due to recent success, some days they keep the party going from 14 till midnight which will cost you 10 euro per hour. Just like in Artemis I never manage to leave the place, so for me it's a all-day experience without the economic collapse for your monetary situation. If you are done fucking you have unlimited access to food, beer, wine, vodka or mineral water and you can enjoy music on VH1 / MTV or see a fotball match which I did last week due to my failure to get ticket to the friendly-match between Hertha Berlin – Real Madrid. By the joy of the place, I did not even one second miss the presence of Ronaldo, Angel Fabian Di Maria or Iker Casillas.

So, it's a clean nice place with good atmosphere that will change your view on the world (and Karl Marx).

Temptations from the Zimmer.

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby; 1183673]@Sir Angus Magee.

Temptations from the Zimmer.[/QUOTE]Thanks ZB. You english is quite sufficient and in fact you excellent report makes the place sound very appealing.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1183763]Thanks ZB. You english is quite sufficient and in fact you excellent report makes the place sound very appealing.

AM[/QUOTE]Definitely!

I wish I could read some german. Sigh.

Had some problem to understand which links where related ti the club you mention. Also saw a gang bang at King George.

Ciao

I will have to go to Berlin in the beginning of September, not for the IFA. And I will need a quite and escort-friendly hotel for one or two nights. Any suggestions?. I found some nice girls on "Berlinintim" : Paula (Sexy Girls Escort) , Alexandra (no agency) and Sandra (Escortmodelle 24 ). Sorry, I don't know about the web-sides. Somebody met them?. Have a nice time : SC

[QUOTE=Severin Carl;1183943]I will have to go to Berlin in the beginning of September, not for the IFA. And I will need a quite and escort-friendly hotel for one or two nights. Any suggestions?. I found some nice girls on "Berlinintim" : Paula (Sexy Girls Escort) , Alexandra (no agency) and Sandra (Escortmodelle 24 ). Sorry, I don't know about the web-sides. Somebody met them?. Have a nice time : SC[/QUOTE]I have used escortmodelle24 a few times. They are a reasonable agency. Sarah was good, Julia less so. There was a third girl I booked once too, but she is no longer on the website. One thing I can say about the girls from this agency is that their photos are in general very flattering and they rarely look as pretty in reality as they do on screen. Service is variable, but I would continue to use this agency from time to time.

I haven't been with Sandra, but I did receive a tip about her from a fellow board member. I can't remember whether this information was delivered in open forum or whether he pm'd me, so I won't mention who it was. Apparently she used to work at another agency where she was offering 'AO' (I. E. 'alles ohne. Sex without a condom). This put me right off her, and I decided never to book this girl even though she looks really cute in her photos.

I have no experience of the other girls / agencies that you mention.

Good luck. Please don't forget to report here if you do go with any of these girls.

Charlie

@Angus Magee: Thank you Sir, I am delighted by your feedback. BTW, I forgot to mention that the Erlebniswohnung is closed on Sundays.

@Dr Kimino: The name Erlebniswohnung is mentioned in the upper side of the advertisements in [url]www.berlinintim.de.[/url] Secondly, I have both tried Caligula and King George two times and I have my opinion about it, but I think everyone should try it for themselves. But when I tried Liberty and met young Kathy from Germany later which is in the same area, I must tell it's a different class. I had a feeling of happiness when I left the place.

Zb

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1183951]'AO' (I. E. 'alles ohne. Sex without a condom)[/QUOTE]It is worth remembering that sex without a condom is fairly common in Germany. Maybe it is better to say that it is not that difficult to find. With the girls at this level, many offer or have offered it. The catch is that most are not open about it. It seems you have to ask in person. So the above mentioned girl was known for it. As far as I know (from reports) she no longer offers it. My point is that it is all rather fluid and unpredictable. Thus, the onus is on the monger to cover up and not worry too much about what others do. Best to assume that any given girl at the very least has bb sex with a bf and who the hell knows who he fucks.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1184278]It is worth remembering that sex without a condom is fairly common in Germany. Maybe it is better to say that it is not that difficult to find. With the girls at this level, many offer or have offered it. The catch is that most are not open about it. It seems you have to ask in person. So the above mentioned girl was known for it. As far as I know (from reports) she no longer offers it. My point is that it is all rather fluid and unpredictable. Thus, the onus is on the monger to cover up and not worry too much about what others do. Best to assume that any given girl at the very least has bb sex with a bf and who the hell knows who he fucks.

AM[/QUOTE]All right, you've talked me into it. I'm pleased to hear she doesn't do it anymore, and I'm going to give her a spin myself when I'm in Berlin in 10 days time. And if I do catch the big one, I'll tell my life insurance company that it was your persuasion that caused me to breach clause 4. 11. 3 (see) of my insurance contract relating to 'Negligent and / or Undisclosed Lifestyle Risks'

Seriously though, I'm sure that your observations are, as usual, sensible and realistic and that the truth of the matter is that most working girls have willingly or unwillingly indulged in unprotected sex at some point in their careers. As you suggest, best policy is probably just to cover up and not think about it.

Best wishes.

Charlie

A collection of reports over the past couple of months.



Liberty - Vivian.

[url]http://www.liberty-berlin.de/vivien.html[/url]

This was my 2nd time around with Vivien, the first being a long time ago, can't remember exactly how long, she might have had a different stage name at that time. Back them she seemed to be on a once a week schedule at Liberty, now she appears more frequently. With time have come some changes: Vivien now cakes on the make up, which IMO is a shame, as without the makeup she is quite beautiful in a sculptural sort of way. Whatever the case if you walked past this gal on the street, you'd certainly take a double take even if she was dressed in jeans and a t-shirt, not because she looks like a classic magazine cover but she just oozes sex.

The pictures on the website are maybe a decent representation except than in person she is a bit more lean and that ass is unbelievable. Makes J-lo look like a sloppy cow. Liberty claims she is 20. Hard to say she could be, but age probably more like 22-25 I suspect.

I believe Vivien is German born of Turkish extraction, understands English decently but speaks little of it. Tits okay not great at an A or B cup, but superb body, lean and tight but full in the arse and hips. She isn't the warmest in personality but once the show begins she comes on like a freight train. Her oral without was unbelievable. She could suck a golf ball through a hose, I suspect. This is a change as last time around she was not offering FO at all, although her oral with condom back them was memorable nonetheless. Generous amounts of real deep throat action available also and unlike most, she didn't seem to tire of doing it. FT and kissing was available also this time, but I didn't take her up on those. In session she rode like a champion and was very enthusiastic in all positions.

Fantastic girl, hard to complain. I'll give only a 9/10 as she could have a slightly warmer bedside manner, but that's really nitpicking to be honest, as you'll more than get your money's worth with her. Hell I think she could do oral sessions alone and leave a man exhausted anyway!






Liberty - Lucy.

[url]http://www.liberty-berlin.de/lucy.html[/url]

Lucy was another repeat session, the previous time being about a year ago. Since them she has gotten better it seems. She is german she says, but speaks exexellent english without having to be coerced into it. Cant remember what age the agency says, I thing she could be as young as 20 and not more than 23.

Visually Lucy is a stunner: gorgeous face, shiny dark hair, lean sleek body with a lovely hips and a slim tight ass. God likes to keep it fair it seems, so he gave Lucy a relatively ordinary pair of A-cups. She has a very friendly and charming personality to boot. A well done spray tan. Bottom line: this one was a no-brainer in the lineup.

To begin Lucy said that she offered kissing, FO and FT as extras. This was a change, as none of the above were on the meny last time I saw her. Probbing deeper, if you pardon the pun, I inquired about anal. First she demurred but later having established that I was no Ron Jeremy, she reluctanctly agreed later in the session. Lucy seems to have been working on her game, as her oral has improved. Was really bad before. In fact she even tred to deep throat, though did not succeed. She will never be an oral champion but at least she's improving.

Sex action was good. Enthusiastic without feeling like she was overdoing the dramatics. She rode very well and took a deep pounding in multiple positions. For the anal she lay that sweet little ass down flat on the bed and while inexperienced managed to take a gentle reaming very well. No PSE here, but good action here from a very pleasant and accommodating beauty.




Klein Zierliech - Ramona.

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-ramona.html[/url]

Surprisingly Ramona was MUCH better looking than the pictures, which were not bad to start. Basically a fresh looking, petite Romanian girl with nothing spared in the curves, as she has a lovely rear end and full perky C-cups that are tight as a drum (and fuller than shown in the pictures). In fact her tits were incredible now that I think about it. Age about 19 I would estimate.

I suspect this agency uses a bad photo stylist, as the girls are too vamped up in the pics and this isn't the first gal from them that was much better looking in person than on their website.

Ramona started off a little reserved but warmed up to the task quickly once I took the lead. Kissing and FO included in the basic fee. Both done well, in fact the oral was quite good, much better than one would expect from a younger girl.

Ramona stated up front that anal was a no-go for her, which was a shame, as she was so accommodating otherwise. In fact may be too accommodating as it seemed to me during the action that AO was up for grabs. No way in hell I'd do it, but just wanted to see how she'd react if things seemed to be pushed in that direction during the foreplay. Hmmm.

Any way this was a full-on, all-action session with a beautiful young girl and I can only give Ramona my highest recommendation: 10/10. No idea how this small agency keeps pulling rabbits out of their hat like this, but lovin' it.

[QUOTE=Skagen; 1185341]Klein Zierliech. Ramona.

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-ramona.html[/url]

Surprisingly Ramona was MUCH better looking than the pictures, which were not bad to start. Basically a fresh looking, petite Romanian girl with nothing spared in the curves, as she has a lovely rear end and full perky C-cups that are tight as a drum (and fuller than shown in the pictures). In fact her tits were incredible now that I think about it. Age about 19 I would estimate.

I suspect this agency uses a bad photo stylist, as the girls are too vamped up in the pics and this isn't the first gal from them that was much better looking in person than on their website.

Ramona started off a little reserved but warmed up to the task quickly once I took the lead. Kissing and FO included in the basic fee. Both done well, in fact the oral was quite good, much better than one would expect from a younger girl.

Ramona stated up front that anal was a no-go for her, which was a shame, as she was so accommodating otherwise. In fact may be too accommodating as it seemed to me during the action that AO was up for grabs. No way in hell I'd do it, but just wanted to see how she'd react if things seemed to be pushed in that direction during the foreplay. Hmmm.

Any way this was a full-on, all-action session with a beautiful young girl and I can only give Ramona my highest recommendation: 10/10. No idea how this small agency keeps pulling rabbits out of their hat like this, but lovin' it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Ramona is the only girl from KZ's current line-up that I haven't tried yet. I will rectify that omission when I'm in town next week. I agree with your observation that their girls are often prettier in the flesh than on the website. I guess thay 'vamp' the pictures to appeal to a certain clientele. They generally seem to know their business, so who am I to argue with their methods? I agree also that they have a top rate scouting system. Almost all their girls are first class. The #1 agency in town for the last 2 years in my book. Big-titted MILF's were my usual M. O, but this agency converted me to 'teenies'.

If you decide to try another girl from KZ's stable, may I recommend Corinna as the best of the rest? She is also much prettier in reality than in her pics, and has a nice attitude and level of service without being too much of a pro. Lucy is too inexperienced and lacks the basic necessary skills and Anna is already all fucked-out.

Did you ever try out Madeleine from KZ's 2010 line-up? She was an absolute darling. Her sister Simone was smoking hot too. Such a shame that I could never persuade them to do a duet together.

Best,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1185476]Thanks for the report. Ramona is the only girl from KZ's current line-up that I haven't tried yet. I will rectify that omission when I'm in town next week.[/QUOTE]KZ websites reports that they are currently on vacation. If I read the website correctly (and there is always the possibility that I don't) they are returning Sunday August 15th. Hopefully, for your sake Charlie, Ramona will be a return feature.

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1185621]KZ websites reports that they are currently on vacation. If I read the website correctly (and there is always the possibility that I don't) they are returning Sunday August 15th. Hopefully, for your sake Charlie, Ramona will be a return feature.

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]You are right. Due back on Monday.

Perhaps they'll turn up with a few new bods too.

I'll report here next week.

C

I Will be in berlin for IFA in September and it spinds Luke Artemis is crowded at that time. Is Kamilla la Dee a better bet or an escort service? I'm net to this and the thought of meeting People's I know at artemis does not appeal thar much to me.

Any advise?

[QUOTE=MrPotter; 1186010]I Will be in berlin for IFA in September and it spinds Luke Artemis is crowded at that time. Is Kamilla la Dee a better bet or an escort service? I'm net to this and the thought of meeting People's I know at artemis does not appeal thar much to me.

Any advise?[/QUOTE]Artemis will be busy during IFA as it is next to the fair ground. Kamilla Dee is always a good choice as well as [url]http://www.royalgirl.de/en.html[/url], [url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/english.html[/url] Or [url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/index_2.html[/url] Which are not that far from the fair ground. I suggest you rtff a bit but Berlin is a good mongering base even when big trade fair take place.

i notice there is an intriguing new arrival at kamilla dee, the fraulein penny. has anyone had the pleasure? i already arranged a meeting but when i called to confirm, i was told she hadn't bothered coming in! honestly, it's not the first time kd had done this and i do think they could be a bit less rep001ter-brained with the appointments system considering their premium rates.

instead i went to leonie at tomsen. a fine body and addicted to romantic kissing. something that goes unsung in this forum is the large pool of relatively unspoiled latvian talent in berlin. some of these girls are really hot, even better than leonie.

i notice there is an intriguing new arrival at kamilla dee, the fraulein penny. has anyone had the pleasure? i already arranged a meeting but when i called to confirm, i was told she hadn't bothered coming in! honestly, it's not the first time kd had done this and i do think they could be a bit less rep001ter-brained with the appointments system considering their premium rates.

instead i went to leonie at tomsen. a fine body and addicted to romantic kissing. something that goes unsung in this forum is the large pool of relatively unspoiled latvian talent in berlin. some of these girls are really hot, even better than leonie.

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1186746]. Etc.

Has anyone had the pleasure? I already arranged a meeting but when I called to confirm, I was told she hadn't bothered coming in! . Etc.[/QUOTE]Do you really mean "arrangement" (called "escort" in the past) , not "appointment"?
see :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1062086#post1062086 [/url]

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1183673]There are several pictures on their website which are selfexplanatory regarding the apartment in Karl Marx strasse 155. The place seems lesser crowded in the beginning of the week, and the number of girls are lower.[/QUOTE]Zimmerbaby, I almost missed your interesting, glowing report about Erlebniswohnung. I'm sure it will give this club a flash of popularity.

Something people need to be reminded of is that there are typically only about 6 girls in this place and maybe 10-20 guys competing for their attentions. Or cooperating for their attentions, if you prefer. Anyway, lots of dick waving around everywhere. What happens in practice is that the guys take turns. The main action takes place on a massive joined-up bed with 3 couples screwing and sharing and socializing.

So it's a sociable, indiscriminate, orgiastic kind of scene. A gangbang in other words. The people there seem relatively sincere and friendly. I expect a lot of guys who dreamed of starring in a porn movie will enjoy that sort of situation where you are one of 4 men standing over a single girl wanking onto her face, and so on.

There's a lot of trust here, and that's implicit in the fact that there are no lockers there, just a Turkish guy who holds your stuff for you.

The real issue I have with this club is that there are only one or two really pretty girls there at any one time. If you are a picky guy like me, then you will prefer places where it is pussy galore and it is the guy choosing the girl rather than vice-versa. Personally I would prefer to have sex with one beautiful girl than stand in a queue and bang six ordinary frau's in a row. But different people have different tastes.

[quote=the limey;1186615]i notice there is an intriguing new arrival at kamilla dee, the fraulein penny. has anyone had the pleasure? i already arranged a meeting but when i called to confirm, i was told she hadn't bothered coming in! honestly, it's not the first time kd had done this and i do think they could be a bit less rep001ter-brained with the appointments system considering their premium rates.[/quote]a good number of the kd team are part timers and / or students. thus they are not always as reliable as the full time who*e. personally when paying premium i would rather the girl, if she does not feel like working, stands me up and makes it possible for me to re-book on a day when she does feel like working.

i have had this experience several times with kd and the eventual session was always top notch.

am

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1187104]Personally when paying premium I would rather the girl, if she does not feel like working, stands me up and makes it possible for me to re-book on a day when she does feel like working.

I have had this experience several times with KD and the eventual session was always top notch.[/QUOTE]Not only that but if you pay double the premium rate, you can get stood up twice and then spanked for the privilege.

[QUOTE=Tonio1; 1179866]Guys,

Today I was ripped-off by.

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Lina-26938.html[/url]

Lina. Agreed for 150 / h for one hour (I know already upscale price for Berlin). After the first pop I was asked to use the shower and upon return in the room it was made clear that's the end. I mentioned that we agreed one hour but instead of they tried to trick me and offered me the real Lina and mentioned the other girl was Lara. I left after 25 minutes and strongly warn against these two girls.

Regards, T[/QUOTE]Lina has changed her name to Chanel. As discussed with Angus Magee per PM I post a link to a German description of her trick: [url]http://www.verkehrsberichte.de/wb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=38819[/url]

Lina / Chanel teams up with an other girl in her apartment. She initially sends her colleague and after your first shot she ends the session only to "incidentially" inform you that you have been with the wrong girl and offer an extension (at additional charge) with Lina / Chanel instead of Lara. Berlinintim kindly responded to me that they just became aware of that issue and will allow only one name for her not two profiles.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1187104]. Etc.

Personally when paying premium. Etc.

I have had this experience several times with KD and the eventual session was always top notch.

AM[/QUOTE]Hello Angus,

What do you mean by "paying premium"?
Thanks

[QUOTE=MrPotter; 1186010]I Will be in berlin for IFA in September and it spinds Luke Artemis is crowded at that time. Is Kamilla la Dee a better bet or an escort service? I'm net to this and the thought of meeting People's I know at artemis does not appeal thar much to me.

Any advise?[/QUOTE]Go early to Artemis. Then stay and see the crazy crowd! .

I'll be there! (Th-Sa)

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1187429]Hello, Angus,

What do you mean by "paying premium"?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Well the Limey referred to KD's "premium rates", meaning rates higher than average. So paying premium means paying more than average.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1187444]Well the Limey referred to KD's "premium rates", meaning rates higher than average. So paying premium means paying more than average.

AM[/QUOTE]OK Angus, thanks for the answer.

I thought you meant that KD proposed "normal rates" and "premium rates"!

Actually, these "premium rates" are rates compared to other houses' rates, not between rates inside KD.

Greetings fellow mongers,

I come today to you with a request for information.

One is quite stressed and tired because of work related issues, one is about to invest some funds in a high class berlin escort.

One would have his mind more at ease if one had a little chemical help making sure one will perform up to his full potential.

One is wondering if one would be able to buy a couple of sildenafil pills anywhere in Berlin?

One would also prefer a legit branded viagra and one would shy away from dodgy blue pills sold by dodgy people made out of dodgy substances.

[QUOTE=Blue Swede; 1187443]Go early to Artemis. Then stay and see the crazy crowd! .

I'll be there! (Th-Sa) [/QUOTE]That's going to be exactly my strategy. Ahahah.

It's going to be great fun.

I'll be there! (Mo-Tu-We)

Ciao.

Kimino

Does anyone have any experience with myberlinescorts?

Mainly eastern girls, but that is not always a bad thing, or what is the feeling in here amongst the pros.

[QUOTE=MrPotter; 1187914]Does anyone have any experience with myberlinescorts?

Mainly eastern girls, but that is not always a bad thing, or what is the feeling in here amongst the pros.[/QUOTE]I believe there are some reports on this agency. As always do a search, read the thread and then, if you still have uestions, come back with something more specific.

AM

My trip to Berlin is coming up fast (9. Sept). I have read many tips on this site. As I am flying in late and I will not check in at my hotel until 23. 00 o'clock. I think I will try to get the you-bahn to King George. Read some from charlie123 on that place. The next day I think I will try the Liberty during the day. Mybe later I will try to hook up with Monica on My Escort Berlin. I hope I also will afford a visit to the famous KD. But I hasn't desiced on the girl there yet.

Berlin has to many choices.

[QUOTE=Diable;1187759]One would also prefer a legit branded viagra and one would shy away from dodgy blue pills sold by dodgy people made out of dodgy substances.[/QUOTE]One is dreaming if one thinks he will buy little blue pills without a 'script in Germany. Unless he orders through the internet like everyone else.

AM

Some days ago I spent some time at my hotel's room with the girl named Aphrodite.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/aphrodite-e.htm[/url]

First of all, I have to say her pics published on the website don't show exactly how pretty is the girl because the photoshop editing altered colours & her face makeup making it too aggressive of what you can see at a live glance.

Aphrodite is a beautiful 1. 70 Russian girl with pretty face and long blond curly hair, average but solid natural breast and an extremely fit body (maybe carboidrates are not present on her diet).

As you can see, the website says she's 28 and it surprised me because at a first sight without reading the profile she appeared max. 23-24 whyear old as well.

Despite of what you can hear about Russian girls in general, Aphrodite is absolutely fun and friendly with a good sense of humor and ironic taste.

Talking about the action, she is really enjoyable and "flexible" at any time (she seems to have "close entrances" but I tried the main one only and she make use of lubrification before starting each session) and she never hurries up you. In the meantime, you can arrange a good conversation with her as she speaks english rather fluently. You can also ask for a massage but I didn't ask for it.

In conclusion, KD's outcall agency reveals itself one more time as absolutely reliable even if you arrange an appointment at a short notice.

[QUOTE=Betankor;1189705]you can see, the website says she's 28 and it surprised me because at a first sight without reading the profile she appeared max. 23-24 whyear old as well.[/QUOTE]Good to get some current intel on this young lady. As for her age-she has been on the website now for as long as I can remember being in Berlin, around 8 years. So se must be late 20's or at the least 26. Unless of course she started early and this I very much doubt. KD would be scrupulous about such things. As it is customary for the girls to subtract a few years rather than add a few. I guess she is just one of those very well preserved ladies. Even at 28 a woman working in this business is usually starting to show signs of age in my experience.

In any case many thanks for the report.

AM

Hello, I was wondering if you could help with this. I am very much into tall women so Chanel from the Glück 39 website caught my eye, last week when I phoned up I was told she would be back this week, yesterday I was told she was gone and they don't know where she is working now. Any idea? And: Can anyone recommend a gril of similar hight (ie in excess of 1, 80 metres)?

[QUOTE=Toeringfan;1189859]Hello, I was wondering if you could help with this. I am very much into tall women so Chanel from the Glück 39 website caught my eye, last week when I phoned up I was told she would be back this week, yesterday I was told she was gone and they don't know where she is working now. Any idea? And: Can anyone recommend a gril of similar hight (ie in excess of 1, 80 metres)?[/QUOTE]Sorry mate, no idea. These girls come and go with alarming frequency. This request would probably do better on a local Berlin forum.

I am not sure if she does in calls anywhere but this girl is said to be 1.84 M.

[url]http://www.sexy-elfen.de/nora.html[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Betankor; 1189705]Some days ago I spent some time at my hotel's room with the girl named Aphrodite.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/aphrodite-e.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Nice write-up, sounds like a terrific girl.

Can I ask how much you paid, and how long she stayed for that money?

Thanks,

Charlie

Hi,

[url]http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Julia.html[/url]

Heartbreakingly beautiful girl, just as fabulous in reality as in her pics. Ex-model, comes from Bayern but in Berlin for the summer whilst doing her studies. Says she's 22 why. O, could easily be true.

Very pleasant and educated girl, friendly, speaks perfect English, easy and relaxed attitude, sexy and skilled in the bedroom. The perfect GF in fact!

Available by appointment only. Base price was 150E for the hour, extras such as kissing and BBBJ made the total up to 190E, so of course I gave her 200. Expensive, but worth it.

Lovely soft kissing, light DFK, prolonged DATY, lovely soft BJ.

Super girl, highly recommended.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1190024]Hi,

[url]http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Julia.html[/url]

Heartbreakingly beautiful girl, just as fabulous in reality as in her pics. Ex-model, comes from Bayern but in Berlin for the summer whilst doing her studies. Says she's 22 why. O, could easily be true.

Very pleasant and educated girl, friendly, speaks perfect English, easy and relaxed attitude, sexy and skilled in the bedroom. The perfect GF in fact!

Available by appointment only. Base price was 150E for the hour, extras such as kissing and BBBJ made the total up to 190E, so of course I gave her 200. Expensive, but worth it.

Lovely soft kissing, light DFK, prolonged DATY, lovely soft BJ.

Super girl, highly recommended.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Thanks for the confirmation. I was considering this place based on the photos of the ladies. These certainly appear to be spectacular beauties.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1190024]Hi,

[url]http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Julia.html[/url]

Heartbreakingly beautiful girl, just as fabulous in reality as in her pics. Ex-model, comes from Bayern but in Berlin for the summer whilst doing her studies. Says she's 22 why. O, could easily be true.

Very pleasant and educated girl, friendly, speaks perfect English, easy and relaxed attitude, sexy and skilled in the bedroom. The perfect GF in fact!

Available by appointment only. Base price was 150E for the hour, extras such as kissing and BBBJ made the total up to 190E, so of course I gave her 200. Expensive, but worth it.

Lovely soft kissing, light DFK, prolonged DATY, lovely soft BJ.

Super girl, highly recommended.

Charlie[/QUOTE]She sure looks great! Well done.

Just an info, in this case, the girl only comes to your hotel or you can make an appointment to meet in Monrouge?

I'll be sharing the hotel room with a friend this time and this makes it complicated. Also, in general, I prefer not having girls coming at my hotel.

Ciaoooo

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1190222]She sure looks great! Well done.

Just an info, in this case, the girl only comes to your hotel or you can make an appointment to meet in Monrouge?

I'll be sharing the hotel room with a friend this time and this makes it complicated. Also, in general, I prefer not having girls coming at my hotel.

Ciaoooo[/QUOTE]Charlie will have to confirm where he met her but it would be funny if the girl would do out call escorting yet refuse a session at their in call location. I can not imagine the reasoning behind that. In any case she certainly does look worth the extra effort. Maybe just buy your room mate some ear plugs and a blind fold?

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1190222]She sure looks great! Well done.

Just an info, in this case, the girl only comes to your hotel or you can make an appointment to meet in Monrouge?

I'll be sharing the hotel room with a friend this time and this makes it complicated. Also, in general, I prefer not having girls coming at my hotel.

Ciaoooo[/QUOTE]Appointment was at Monrouge, Leibnitzstr 57, although they do 'take aways' as well. I guess that hotel visits from Monrouge ladies are even more expensive than their in-house rates, but I've never tried it.

A caveat emptor to those scowering Berlin Intime. My eyes and points south were grabbed by today's Top Liste number 2, no less, the potentially awesome Ellenna.

www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Ellena-27966.html

I had hoped she might be a long lost eponymous amigo from Estonia who was one of my best ever, gone since some years. The resemblance was striking in the photo.

I called, got the details, very friendly sultry Slavic voice on the phone, and thus I ventured half way to the Polish border (well for me anyway- kind of near Rudow and that should have been the giveaway, as who in their right mind would base out of there) to be greeted by a 40s MIWNLF (as in. Mothers Would Not ). She was ok, kind of jumped on me, kisses and tongues and gropes and said there would be a surprise.

After a quick negotiation 100/30 min for "everything", I assumed the prize would be E herself, hearing another woman in another room. This warm-up band thing was new and given the 40 min I spent on U-Bahns and busses I thought, well let us see. Could be a diamond in the rough thing. This inertia is a problem for me, even someone who's been around the block. You spend a lot of time getting there, and it's tough to walk, especially in the middle of things. Soon enough, Ellenna materialises but while remotely related to the photos posted, she is clearly another woman. To be generous, one might say she is robust, or Rubenesque. The not so generous might use Zeppelinesque. Most def nyet on what was portrayed, and what I expected.

Anyway-to be fair, the pair was offering themselves as a duo, and there were a lot of legs and lips and parts flying around, but neither were really doable, for me. E said she was not feeling great, despite her greatness, and seemed to just want to get it over with. I guess that was the deal by having her sparing buddy in on the show to do the warm up. Now I am a sucker for large mams but this was all too much. I came, I conquered I left.

I've now had too many misses now with these B Int indie 'tutes. I am hanging up my spurs. At least half the time, the photos are just lies. I know some can be verified but still, it's just not worth it, IMHO. Especially with all the other talent about. So while of course, your mileage may indeed vary, I am giving up on all this excessive mileage and Ostalgie, and sticking from now on to tried and true establishments in the wild wild West of Berlin.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1190294]I've now had too many misses now with these B Int indie 'tutes.[/QUOTE]Hi, and welcome back to the Hauptstadt.

Sorry to hear that you had another bum session with an indie. Without wishing to rub salt in the wound, I am not terribly surprised. We had a pm discussion about this last month. I reckon that indies are the least likely sector of the market to be good value.

Firstly, there is no 'management' on hand to assure a level of service.

Secondly, indies are often on the scene for short periods of time, meaning that the chances of repeat business are slim with consequent paucity of incentive to give you a good time.

Thirdly, operating alone, the reputation of the establishment is not under threat.

Fourthly, the fact that such girls come and go with great regularity means that there is minimal time to garner positive feedback on this or other boards before they are off to Prague to find a new army of suckers.

I deeply admire your sense of adventure and appreciate the extensive endeavours you have made recently in the common cause to check out some of the new faces that have appeared on the scene in recent months. Many of the 'newcomers' you have sampled from the Berlin-intim page are girls who really took my eye too. We seem to have a similar taste in many ways. And you have probably saved me a nice few euros with your exploratory efforts and prompt and honest reporting (I owe you a beer or two for that!).

But, having said that, I am pleased to hear that you intend to drop the indie investigations because, for the reasons I mentioned above, I believe that it's poor-value sector of the market and far better risk / reward ratios are to be found in the more established communities of the city. With the financial crisis biting ever harder, more and more girls seem to be coming onto the scene and that must offer opportunities.

If you will allow me to presume to offer suggestions to a campaigner of your experience and expertise, I will be trying out Dirty Doris from Mariendorfer Koenig next week ([url]http://www.diskrete-adresse.de/home.html[/url]). Those tits should be big enough for even your appetite. And if she's any good then I'll let you know. Yasmin and Sybel at Monrouge are both worthy of a visit, and I was totally starstruck by Julia this week as my report below would indicate, although she might not be quite your type. Some of these places are expensive of course, but if one adds up over the course of a few months of all the wasted $ from no-hope expeditions to 'Top Liste' rip-off merchants then it would cover a nice few sessions with guaranteed performers at high-priced outlets such as Monrouge, KLD etc.

I have spent two evenings at Artemis recently, and on both occasions was struck by how many new faces have emerged even since mid-July when I disappeared for 4 weeks or so. There was hardly anyone in the room that I knew. Plenty of enhanced assets for those who prefer the voluptuous end of the spectrum. Kimino will be in town from Sept 5-7 for the big Messe as will I. Hope to see you there.

Best,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1190294]After a quick negotiation 100/30 min for "everything", I assumed the prize would be E herself, hearing another woman in another room.[/QUOTE]100/30min is way over the average in Berlin. Her picture are also not validated by Berlinintim ("geprüft") so you should see such pictures as photoshop on at least five year old pictures. If you like MILF you should consider Veronique [url]http://www.click-veronique.de/[/url] Ariane [url]http://arianeescort.com/[/url] Or Colette [url]http://www.kaufmich.com/tabuloselady[/url] Based on the services you prefer. I order them price decending.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1190313]Hi, and welcome back to the Hauptstadt.

Sorry to hear that you had another bum session with an indie. Without wishing to rub salt in the wound, I am not terribly surprised. We had a pm discussion about this last month. I reckon that indies are the least likely sector of the market to be good value. Charlie[/QUOTE]What can I say. It's not like I did not know better. Just because I thought it could have been one of my all time bests, back from the Netherworld. Seemed worth a shot. At least it was bizarre.

I dunno Charlie re Doris. She looks a little scarey to me? Perhaps she was formerly a wrestler? Mon Rouge has my vote as you know. Just not happy about the price hikes.

Boobs cannot rule all, e. G. Woody Allen in Sleeper. Anyway, we will see re the Madhouse Messe. There is also the Art's Birthday Bash 29 Sept.

It is refreshing to read the co-operative style of this forum, serious punters getting on with what we are all here for.

On that note, am visiting from Australia next week for the week and happen to love puffy nipples.

Would anyone possibly have a recommendation of any girl who might have these assets.

Regardless, I think it will be a fun week.

Regards.

OS

Hi charlie.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1190021]Thanks for the report. Nice write-up, sounds like a terrific girl.

Can I ask how much you paid, and how long she stayed for that money?

Thanks,

Charlie[/QUOTE]A little bit more than 1 hour 4 200€ (fixed) as visible here@financial conditions:

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/escort_5e.htm[/url]

Moe not possible cause she was busy later in the night.

Anyway, I usually prefer 2 meetings shorter in place of 1 long.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1190222]She sure looks great! Well done.

Just an info, in this case, the girl only comes to your hotel or you can make an appointment to meet in Monrouge?

I'll be sharing the hotel room with a friend this time and this makes it complicated. Also, in general, I prefer not having girls coming at my hotel.

Ciaoooo[/QUOTE]However, if I remember well, I saw the club when I was in the bus leading to KD : I mean that for those who expect for discretion, the meeting would better take place at a hotel rather than at the club.

[QUOTE=Betankor; 1189705][url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/aphrodite-e.htm[/url]

As you can see, the website says she's 28 and it surprised me because at a first sight without reading the profile she appeared max. 23-24 whyear old as well.

Despite of what you can hear about Russian girls in general, Aphrodite is absolutely fun and friendly with a good sense of humor and ironic taste.[/QUOTE]Good update, Betankor.

Although I didn't go with her I did meet Aphrodite on my last visit to KD and would also have put her younger than 28y.

Those comments about Russian girls even take place in KD itself.

The girl I was with passed a rude comment about her and other Russian girls in general.

The politics of the workplace and all that.

[QUOTE=Tonio1; 1190339]If you like MILF you should consider Veronique.

[url]http://www.click-veronique.de/[/url][/QUOTE]Tonio,

I like the look of your Veronique.

Have you reported on her or can you tell us more?

VG.

[QUOTE=Gergiev; 1190480]Tonio,

I like the look of your Veronique.

Have you reported on her or can you tell us more?

VG.[/QUOTE]Hi Gergiev, I have so far not reported about Veronique at ISG but in the german speaking forum where Angus Magee is active as well. Veronique is the undisputed queen of MILFs in Berlin according to the german mates for at least the last five years. She works in her own apartment in Lichtenrade (but is willing to visit you in your hotel if she trusts you). She only does appointments from 6pm onwards and you need to reserve her about a week in advance as she is booked very well. The picture are genuine, she has a wide range of lingerie / clothing to fullfil wishes you might have. She is truly stylish and very naughty. BBBJCIMS, anal, rimming etc. Are outstanding and her only limit is strictly covered anal and FS. She has curves and her boobs are more than a more than a handful. She adapts to your wishes and so far I was really satisfied and exhausted after every meeting. Only real downside is that she charges 200€/h but that has not stopped me from visiting her because she is worth every penny. I do not know how good her English is as I speak fluent German.

[QUOTE=Offshore Swell; 1190365]It is refreshing to read the co-operative style of this forum, serious punters getting on with what we are all here for.

On that note, am visiting from Australia next week for the week and happen to love puffy nipples.

Would anyone possibly have a recommendation of any girl who might have these assets.

Regardless, I think it will be a fun week.

Regards.

OS[/QUOTE]Mate, have no clue and was not a big issue so far. I suggest you search the two main ladies data bases in Berlin, that's [url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/[/url] And [url]http://www.kaufmich.com/search/quick/id/dd38fd6946869fd61ef90c14a3951c60[/url] That cover some 90% of the market. If you find something you like, feel free to ask specific question about the girls. Some points to consider: 100-120€/h is the standard price, everything 150€/h or above so make you cautious. Several good girls are listed here, so check if one of the girls below match you specs.

It is not easy to find this particular attribute in a working girl. The best (and only) puffies I have experienced in a long time were with a young Russian who used to work in a small bordello in Kreuzberg. The bordello is no longer there but Anastasia now works at the Flat rate Caligula. She is actually on their website.

[url]http://www.caligula-berlin.de/bordell/anastasija.html[/url]

A word or warning though, or a couple. The pics are at a minimum 3 years old. She was a very believable 20 yrs. When I used to suckle on her nipples (3-4 years back) and her service was out of this world. There are a couple of reviews of her, one by me and one by Iseeu, in the back pages of the Berlin thread. Now I am not sure what you would find. Puffy nipples do tend to fade after a girl is twenty or so. Also as a flat rate girl almost certainly her service level has dropped some. Probably a great deal actually. I always remember her fondly and sometimes entertain the idea of a visit for old time sake. But some memories are best left alone so I probably never will.

If you do look her up a report would be most welcomed by me.

Other than that I have no idea. I would suggest Artemis as you can survey the goods before buying and there are a couple of girls I see there with puffy nips. No names I am sorry.

AM

In Angus' fantasy world, all girls nipples would be photographed when they turn 18 and placed on a searchable database.

Problem is that then there would be no call for posts like this.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1190583]I would suggest Artemis as you can survey the goods before buying and there are a couple of girls I see there with puffy nips. No names I am sorry.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;1190430]However, if I remember well, I saw the club when I was in the bus leading to KD : I mean that for those who expect for discretion, the meeting would better take place at a hotel rather than at the club.[/QUOTE]I'll wear fake mustaches! :-)

Kidding, thanks for the info Bobo.fr.

This time my hotel will be at a very short walk from Monrouge. Not sure if I'll pay a visit but if I do I'll certainly report.

Right now I'm too curious about seeing the new girls at Artemis and a bit worried about the possible absence of 2/3 I'd definitely like to meet.

As always, I make plans just to see them vaporize as soon as I land.

Ciao.

Kimino

Thanks for taking the time for reply.

Appreciate it.

OS

Angus,

As this might be of interest to mongers uberal, I am posting this here & Artemis thread.

I got some email from friends in Sweden and Italy who will be down for the IFA next week. They want a tour guide and I will be away.

Does your Geil Guide service offer group rates-both for Artemis and just general bordello boogies? It would be useful to have a pro show them the ropes and advise on particular girls.

Not sure if you can handle say 3-4 guys (as a guide-you pervs can relax) but thought I would ask if there might be some sort of group discount?

Best-RB

Just had a mindblowing experience with a beautiful 18 year old at Odette's. Nothing was held back.

Could Odette's be the new Kamilla Dee, or did I just strike lucky?

[QUOTE=Tonio1;1190520]Hi Gergiev, I have so far not reported about Veronique at ISG but in the german speaking forum where Angus Magee is active as well. Veronique is the undisputed queen of MILFs in Berlin according to the german mates for at least the last five years. She works in her own apartment in Lichtenrade (but is willing to visit you in your hotel if she trusts you). She only does appointments from 6pm onwards and you need to reserve her about a week in advance as she is booked very well. The picture are genuine, she has a wide range of lingerie / clothing to fullfil wishes you might have. She is truly stylish and very naughty. BBBJCIMS, anal, rimming etc. Are outstanding and her only limit is strictly covered anal and FS. She has curves and her boobs are more than a more than a handful. She adapts to your wishes and so far I was really satisfied and exhausted after every meeting. Only real downside is that she charges 200€/h but that has not stopped me from visiting her because she is worth every penny. I do not know how good her English is as I speak fluent German.[/QUOTE]Tonio, that's excellent, thank you.

I did a search here and she has a few mentions that are all very positive.

Certainly her photos, lingerie and [i]geile Ausstrahlung[/i] all point to a top experience.

Maybe time for another detour around by Berlin... :)

VG.

Does any one here have any experiences with Lora that advertised in the classifieds? I have already searched the forum.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1190880]Angus,

As this might be of interest to mongers uberal, I am posting this here & Artemis thread.

I got some email from friends in Sweden and Italy who will be down for the IFA next week. They want a tour guide and I will be away.

Does your Geil Guide service offer group rates-both for Artemis and just general bordello boogies? It would be useful to have a pro show them the ropes and advise on particular girls.

Not sure if you can handle say 3-4 guys (as a guide-you pervs can relax) but thought I would ask if there might be some sort of group discount?

Best-RB[/QUOTE]Hi RB,

Well usually my service is aimed at individuals. But I see no reason why I could not show the ropes to more than one at a time. In fact, especially for an Artemis romp, it would make thing less expensive as the cost of entry could be split amongst the participants equally.

In any case if your friends are interested please have them contact me via my blog or you your self can supply my email.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/[/url]

AM

Hi every body, Could you give me one or two swingers club's name accepting single men in Berlin? Thanks ++++

[QUOTE=Senso08;1192151]Hi every body, Could you give me one or two swingers club's name accepting single men in Berlin? Thanks ++++[/QUOTE]This swinger's club is supposed to be one of the best. Keep in mind this is not a recommendation, simply that I have heard. Not my scene.

[url]http://www.swingeroase-zwiespalt.de/[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1190012]Sorry mate, no idea. These girls come and go with alarming frequency. This request would probably do better on a local Berlin forum.

I am not sure if she does in calls anywhere but this girl is said to be 1. 84 M.

[url]http://www.sexy-elfen.de/nora.html[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Angus belated thanks for the reply and the tip. If you know of any more girls of that height please let me know. Also can you recommend a local forum where I mights try to locate the elusive Chanel?

[QUOTE=Toeringfan;1192332]Angus belated thanks for the reply and the tip. If you know of any more girls of that height please let me know. Also can you recommend a local forum where I mights try to locate the elusive Chanel?[/QUOTE]Hi,

I do not really feel right about posting in public the address of another forum on ISG. If you have pm capability please send me a pm and I will send it there. If not go to my blog and contact me via the contact form there. I will then email yo the address.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/[/url]

I must warn you that the German forums are generally very difficult to join.

AM

[url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/kate1.html[/url]

I know they eat italians with curry sauce at Van Kampen but... :)

Ciaooo

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1193138][url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/kate1.html[/url]

I know they eat italians with curry sauce at Van Kampen but. .

Ciaooo[/QUOTE]Wow, some of these girls are actually guest stars@Erlebniswohnung! Cool! Viva Berlin!

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1193138][url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/kate1.html[/url]

I know they eat italians with curry sauce at Van Kampen but. .

Ciaooo[/QUOTE]K-no but can recommend Holly (as girl next door, not SM Queen) & Joyce. Great fun, great service. You just need to call ahead to confirm time and availability. Great location off the Ring S-Bahn 3 stops from Westkreuz, for those of you taking an Artemis Pause....

I have written before about all this alleged anti-ferrengi bullshit. I know you were kidding, but it is a case of repeating a false rumour often enough that it assumes, as Steven Colbert helpfully coined, truthiness. VK is a fine place, welcoming to all, if a tad expensive. Their home page is offered in 5 languages (could this be a sign?).

Plus when they do eat Italians, they use sauce Milanese to lure them into a feeling of safety. Andiamo, los.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1193353]K-no but can recommend Holly (as girl next door, not SM Queen) & Joyce. Great fun, great service. You just need to call ahead to confirm time and availability. Great location off the Ring S-Bahn 3 stops from Westkreuz, for those of you taking an Artemis Pause.

I have written before about all this alleged anti-ferrengi bullshit. I know you were kidding, but it is a case of repeating a false rumour often enough that it assumes, as Steven Colbert helpfully coined, truthiness. VK is a fine place, welcoming to all, if a tad expensive. Their home page is offered in 5 languages (could this be a sign?).

Plus when they do eat Italians, they use sauce Milanese to lure them into a feeling of safety. Andiamo, los.[/QUOTE]I'll probably give it a try in the next days. It's either VK or KD, less probably MR.

Choice based on the girls shown on the sites, doesn't usually mean a lot but, have to start somewhere.

See you!

Kimino

What is it with all these pretty young women flirting with me on the street? What a crazy uninhibited culture! For anyone who has never been to Germany, this is an example of what I mean:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR-nUwV-JRw&feature=related[/url]

Fraulein 1: Hey, nice shoes! Sex?

Fraulein 2: Yeah! I'd love to!

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;1190430]However, if I remember well, I saw the club when I was in the bus leading to KD : I mean that for those who expect for discretion, the meeting would better take place at a hotel rather than at the club.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I realize that I made a mistake : the club I saw from the bus was "Bel Ami salon" (see appended photo).

Monrouge s entrance is more discrete as we can see on Angus video : [url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=552[/url]

Does anyone know if Hotel Excelsior in Hardenbergstrasse is a escort friendly Hotel?

Great day yesterday, I had a chance to see a few clubs with friend Charlie.

Plan was to meet in Artemis but we decided to visit a club before.

We first went to Odetteberlin. De you can get the address on the site. A 10 min taxi drive from Kudam.

I was interested at the club because Helena that once worked in Artemis now works there (thanks Angus for the info). Helena, now called Ella, was just an excuse though and I didn't even call to make sure she was there, and in fact she wasn't.

The club is at the 5th floor of a building, no "odette" written anywhere on the front door, just the name of a photo studio or something. We went in, the lady took us to a room and let the girls come in one by one. 4 girls, terrible line up, nothing of interest. We left and I'm sure we won't repeat the visit.

So we moved on to Van Kampen, the lady was very gentle, english speaking. About 5/6 girls did the parade. For sure we would have fucked a couple but the point was that if we had to pay more than normal Artemis rates we wanted to have more quality and the girls where ok but nothing really special.

I just remember the name Regina, she looked nice in her lingerie.

So we left, no problem with that for the lady. Nice atmosphere at Van Kampen, I'll repeat the visit.

From Van Kampen we walked to Kamilla Le Dee, went upstairs. I don't remeber very well the details but we where shown only 4/5 girls, none we would fuck actually, so decided to leave.

At this point we where kind of stuck and where ready to go to Artemis. Then a name popped up and a bookmark on our maps, Royal.

Walking distance from KD, in a nice building. I thought Royal was supposed to be in a different league, inferior, to the previous clubs so we didn't actually know what we could expect. A pleasant surprise.

The housemutter or what is called had quite a shitty attitude, did very little to make us feel comfortable but it's really a detail. Kind of aggressive german stereotype attitude.

Girls start coming in. A very good lineup. At least 8 girls, from the pornstar look to the girl next door. All at least doable, some real cute. Once the last girl passed by, me and Charlie we realized that we couldn't fucking remember the names. So we did explain this to the house lady, which wasn't particularly happy about it, and she let the girls do another parade telling us to tell the girls right away which one we wanted.

I chose Valerie.

We went to a room, we started talking, good english.

20 yrs. From Bavaria, just started doing this job, a joyful very sweet person. Very cute but girl next door kind, not a porn star. 45 min is 110 euro. Then said kissing was 20 more. I asked if she did BBBJ and she said no, no extra, just she didn't do it. But after insisting just a little bit she said ok, very sweet. I decided to give her 150 to make her happy, and she was. I paid before starting.

Took a shower and then had one of the best total GFE session in a very long time, her BJ was absolutely great and very deep. Everything was super sweet. I definitely recommend.

Left while Charlie was also exiting the room, looking happy.

Royal rocks!

Back in the streets, taxi, Artemis!

A real fun exploration day in great company with Charlie.

In conclusion, all clubs are nice and comfortable places, with a similar price structure. Odette didn't get through because of the particularly bad lineup and a general "cheap", unorganized, atmosphere. Royal, although having slightly cheaper rates was the best place for the lineup, at least yesterday.

Today we will do another tour. Prestige, Tiffany and if nothing good shows up there we will default to Royal, before going back to Artemis.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1194791]Today we will do another tour. Prestige, Tiffany and if nothing good shows up there we will default to Royal, before going back to Artemis.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. As I mentioned the other night I think these types of reports on the over all atmosphere of the apartments is way more useful than specific reports on the girls, who come and go.

Personally I have always found Royal to be pretty well staffed. I can remember that the Hausmuttis were often girl who I wished were available to session. Maybe this has changed or maybe you got them on a bad day.

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1194791]Great day yesterday, I had a chance to see a few clubs with friend Charlie.

Plan was to meet in Artemis but we decided to visit a club before. So we moved on to Van Kampen, the lady was very gentle, english speaking. The point was that if we had to pay more than normal Artemis rates we wanted to have more quality and the girls where ok but nothing really special. So we left, no problem with that for the lady. Nice atmosphere at Van Kampen, I'll repeat the visit.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Kimino. Unbelievable that you made it out of v K alive, and without spending a thing. I guess they ran out of sauce Milanese. Shame you missed Holly.

But you got the Royal treatment, instead. So there is life after Artemis, afterall.

Glad Charlie and you are running your own Stimulus Package which will surely help the local taxis, if not the entire Berlin economy. Ciao

[QUOTE=NightHard;1194659]Does anyone know if Hotel Excelsior in Hardenbergstrasse is a escort friendly Hotel?[/QUOTE]I stayed there last year and have no issue with girl showing up at my room directly. The lift did not required hotel key to operate, which is great if you like privacy.

Thanks. RoD standard.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1194791]Great day yesterday, I had a chance to see a few clubs with friend Charlie.

Kimino[/QUOTE]

Thank you. Yes, it is a plus that there is no keycard to the lift.

[QUOTE=Poor Sybarite;1194953]I stayed there last year and have no issue with girl showing up at my room directly. The lift did not required hotel key to operate, which is great if you like privacy.[/QUOTE]

Hello All,

Discovered this afternoon that I will need to be in Berlin on Saturday night. With such short notice and no time to prepare, I am wondering if anyone out there can recommend a favorite escort with contact info. I am looking for just about all menu items, except for pain and body waste play. Feel free to PM me or post on the Forum- either is great!

Thanks in advance.

Ky

Didn't want to go directly to Artemis, had fun the day before so we (Charlie and I) decided to go visit another couple of clubs, keeping Royal as last.

We started at around 12:00, this on a Wednesday. The logistics of the tour doesn't make a lot of sense probably but we had in mind the order in which we wanted to visit the places.

We first visited Club Prestige which is very close to Artemis. No problem with the house lady.

She showed us 2 girls. Both where absolutely doable but we declined. This probably because we where particularly picky and on my side also because being the first club and only having seen 2 girls was a bit like closing the tour immediately. On a side, I was also curious to see the lineup in Royal.

So we left. Next stop Tiffany, in Ritterstr. 11.

I had a previous "bad" experience where only one milfy girl was present. But that was partially my fault as I went there on a Saturday morning at 11:00, without calling or anything.

This time it was different, but not better. 5 girls where there, absolutely undoable, chubby things.

The house lady was the least helpful than in any other club we visited.

Tiffany will have to wait a long time to see my face again. I know 2 visits is not enough for a judgement but I'm not going to give them a third chance for a while.

A note on this.

A more efficient approach to the brothel scene would probably be to:

- look up on the website the images of the girls, the schedules, etc.

- make up your mind about who you would like to session with.

- call the house and ask if it's confirmed that the girl is there and maybe setup an appointment.

In general easyer for german speakers, you must trust the pictures / info (when avail.) , IMHO a pain in the ass and a programmatic approach that would take off part of the fun.

And what if you decide to visit a brothel at the last minute?

Royal.

This time we went at the second floor, apparently they have 2 different apartments one on 4th and one on 2nd.

This was very strange for us, to the point we thought we went in a different brothel.

While Charlie had already the name of the girl he wanted to take, I went through the parade thing.

Around 10 girls, at least 3/4 I would choose.

Again I fell in the names trap and after seeing them all I couldn't remeber any of the names. The house lady (a different one from the day before) was patient and helpful, showed me some of the girls another time, but I fucked up anyways so basically at the end I told myself I would choose the next one coming through the door and this I did.

A girl from Berlin. 23 yr. Brown hair, very small tits. Nice body, friendly. Was working on her own before. Not a stunner but nice.

Paid 150 for 45min, BBB, Kiss. Tip.

Good session.

Again very satisfied about Royal, which for sure I'm going to visit again before going to Artemis.

Then we headed towards Artemis. Again very good lineup.

Ciao.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1195178]note on this.

A more efficient approach to the brothel scene would probably be to:

- look up on the website the images of the girls, the schedules, etc.

- make up your mind about who you would like to session with.

- call the house and ask if it's confirmed that the girl is there and maybe setup an appointment.

In general easyer for german speakers, you must trust the pictures / info (when avail.) , IMHO a pain in the ass and a programmatic approach that would take off part of the fun.

And what if you decide to visit a brothel at the last minute?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reports Kimino. Good to get an up to date insight on the local scene. Sounds like Royal is currently the apartment to visit. Personally I have always had a good time there. I just find it expensive when you add in things like kissing and BBBJ. A session there can easily hit €200.

Picking off the website tends to be a bit of an art. I can not say I know exactly how to do it except that I have relied heavily upon intuition to guide me. Sometimes a particular picture jumps out at me. I find myself going back to it again and again. These are the girls I would then book and almost always the session was a good one. I have found it to be an even better way to pick than the parade which I always found stressful, thus hard to make a good pick.

Picking a hooker off the website is like picking a winning stock. You use all the info you have then go with gut instinct and hope for the best.

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1195178]Didn't want to go directly to Artemis, had fun the day before so we (Charlie and I) decided to go visit another couple of clubs, keeping Royal as last. A more efficient approach to the brothel scene would probably be to:

- look up on the website the images of the girls, the schedules, etc.
- make up your mind about who you would like to session with.
- call the house and ask if it's confirmed that the girl is there and maybe setup an appointment.

IMHO a pain in the ass and a programmatic approach that would take off part of the fun. And what if you decide to visit a brothel at the last minute? Kimino[/QUOTE]

I think it is not quite so "either / or", to paraphrase a Danish monger. You can (indeed should) look on the website, make some prelim choices, and call to make sure the intendeds are there and vaguely free at the time good for you. But you don't book it-you then just turn up and let the chemistry decide. All this does is reduce, but not eliminate, the chances for wasted time and disappointment. Of course in the interim, things could happen; some hornier bastard could turn up and abscond with the goods. But at least this way, you have a fair chance without committing to some potentially Photoshopped Princess poon. In most private flats, you might be able to wait 15-30 min in some waiting room, and at least you reduce the odds of these taxi safaris not yielding one of the Big Five (or whatever the female equivalent is). At least you can time the taxi, or for us greenies, S / U Bahn & Bus runs a bit, while still keeping it fairly spontaneous. Sort of planned spontaneity.

It just stands to reason that certain times and days will be more likely to provide you with the satisfaction needed, a just a little knowledge of that (eg, not going to flats during lunch or pm rush hours when there is more competition from regulars who have booked ahead) does increase the odds. So does knowing when girl is actually working, vs her day off....For those somewhat strapped for cash and time, the little planning needed seems well worth it.

Obviously, Artemis's great advantage is that you can hang out, take your time, wait til all in order. The downside is IMHO less quality, and that warm feeling knowing your hallowed tongue and Liebes Wurstchen are among up to 10-15 others who have probed the same cavities that very day. Choices choices.

Anyway good reporting Kimino and happy trails. You certainly blazed more than a few on this trip.

Hi.

As my good friend Kimino has already reported with exquisite clarity, we did a 2-day tour of the larger bordelles of Charlottenburg and Wilmersdorf over Tuesday and Wednesday afternoons. We had a pre-determined strategy in place, which was to seek out some real stunners in the high-end brothels with the fancy price structures and to be very particular about the girls we selected. We determined to be unafraid to walk out of as many places as necessary if we couldn't find the quality of girls we were looking for and not to relax our stringent selection criteria however many disappointments we might encounter. To our credit, we stuck to the plan and were eventually rewarded.

We were mostly of the same mind as to the opportunities offered by the various establishments we visited, so, to supplement Kinino's observations I will append only a few short notes as follows:-

TUESDAY.

Odette's. By far the least impressive of the places we visited given the price-structure and the quality of the line-up. There were 4 girls present, none of whom were remotely of interest to either of us. Given that they charge VK prices, I would suggest that there is just about nothing to commend Odette's, and I shan't go again unless at some point in the future the website promises a major rejuvenation of the line-up.

Van Kampen. My first visit, surprisingly, and something of a disappointment on the day. Holly, Marina, Babsi and Sunny were all absent, and the 5 girls that formed the parade were all insufficiently enticing to persuade us to stay. I will try VK again at some point – their reputation and the pictures on the website are such that it must be worth another visit one day soon.

Kamilla La Dee – I have been twice before and been impressed. I had high hopes for Tuesday's visit. There were half a dozen girls available, most of whom were eminently doable, but no sign of the elusive 'stunners' that formed the objective of our mission. I quite fancied the look of blond MILF Suzanne in her slutty red dress, but Kimino had no interest in any of them so we left.

Royal – I recalled that Angus had in the past often sung the praises of the Royal girls and reckoned that they were highly service-orientated, so we made the short walk from Blissestrasse to Bundesplatz to check it out. There were seven girls in the line-up. I liked two of them Jolien and Valerie, and Kimino was also attracted by a blond Polish girl whom I cannot see depicted on the website and a dark-haired girl named Samantha with a large tattoo on her left thigh who is demonstrably not the Samantha whose pics are on their webpage. Kimino chose Valerie and I went with Jolien:-

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin/jolien.html[/url]

Much prettier than her poorly-taken website photos would suggest, Jolien is a Berliner in her mid-20's with long brown hair, a slim but womanly body, quite large natural tits, long legs and a very pretty face. Service was somewhere between 'good' and 'very good' – excellent BBBJ, top-quality slow doggie with her sliding backwards and forwards whilst I remained motionless, good mish with faked but pleasant and not-excessive moaning 'bis schluss'. A very satisfactory session, but expensive. 100E was quoted for 45 minutes and 150E for a full hour. I opted for the full hour, and a range of extras such as kissing and BBBJ at 20E apiece took the total to 210E. She was about to engage in her first Royal Gangbang Party, which takes place every Tuesday at 7pm, and was understandably a little apprehensive about the prospect, and this might have impinged upon her performance with me that day. On another occasion, she might be even better company.

I left feeling that although the session was an overall winner, but a similar 'fuck and suck' success can be found at Artemis for a fraction of the price if one chooses the right girl, and I didn't especially harbour the impression that I'the had great value for money. That aside, I have to say that the session was on balance a positive experience.

WEDNESDAY.

Prestige – We arrived at about 2 pm and were told that there were only 2 girls available. Both turned out to be thoroughly unmemorable, so we scarpered. I have been there once before and had a respectable outing with big-titted MILF Denise, so I will return some day.

Tiffany – A big let-down. Our trip over to the East side of town was predicated upon a generous selection of ladies available that day according to the 'Tagesplan' on the website, but only 5 humourless and unattractive girls presented themselves upon our visit and we didn't come close to engaging any of them. I have sessioned here successfully in the past (with Pia) , so I will attend again one day, but I calculate that this is a place to make prior bookings rather than speculative visits.

Royal (again) – After the previous day's successes, this was our back-up option, so after blowing out at Prestige and Tiffany we headed back to Bundesallee. Kimino had had a good time with Valerie the day before, so this time I nabbed her:-

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin/valerie.html[/url]

Cute, very pretty with a fabulous body, no tattoos but a barbell piercing through one nipple, lovely soft tits, just as attractive as her (un-photoshopped) pics would suggest. Booked for 45 minutes with extras – cost 150E. Good performer, very sweet girl, a little unskilled perhaps as compared to the Artemis pros, but in a way that just added to her charm. Recommended.

Both Kimino and I were highly impressed with Royal – all 3 of the girls we sampled gave their best, the facilities are on a par with KLD, MR and the other bordelles in this price range and one gets the feeling that this is a place that is looking for repeat business.

I really enjoyed our little adventure surveying the larger and more upscale bordelles of Charlottenburg. Kimino was, as always, convivial and enthusiastic company and it was a lot of fun. Having said that, I don't believe that our method truly represents the best way to extract value from the up-market bordelles. A much better way is to cruise the websites, survey the forums such as this one, select a girl from the photos and descriptions and then call ahead to check her availability before making a booking. Turning up on spec is, in my view, not the winning methodology. We knew this before setting out on our travels of course – we were looking to have a fun expedition rather than a professional mongering outing – and as such we fulfilled our objectives entirely. Thanks as always to Kimino for his wonderful company. Sorry that promised 'few short notes' tuned out to be a major essay.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1195193]Picking off the website tends to be a bit of an art. I can not say I know exactly how to do it except that I have relied heavily upon intuition to guide me. Sometimes a particular picture jumps out at me. I find myself going back to it again and again. These are the girls I would then book and almost always the session was a good one. I have found it to be an even better way to pick than the parade which I always found stressful, thus hard to make a good pick.

Picking a hooker off the website is like picking a winning stock. You use all the info you have then go with gut instinct and hope for the best.

AM[/QUOTE]I agree. Trawling through websites over and over, as one tends to do, one is often drawn back to the same pictures, often without quite knowing why. Sometimes there is just something intriguing about a girl that you cannnot put your finger on, but that is enticing. I am usually happy to go with that instinct, even if I am unable to demonstrate to myself what it is about the girl that turns me on. Of course the photos are not always accurate, and the reality can sometimes be hugely disappointing when you arrive and are presented with the girl, but on balance I think that careful internet research is generally a more reliable mechanism than the pressured and terribly artificial methodolgy of 'the parade'. Of course, the FKK system with its far greater scope for extensive 'interview' is a fmuch better model altogether, but that's another story.

My actual technique for bordelles is as follows:-

If a girl on the website attracts me then I call and see whether she is available immediately, but unless I am almost certain that she is going to be terrific I do not make a formal booking. I tell the Hausmutti that I'll be there in 10 minutes, and when I arrive I ask for the full line-up. If the pre-selected girl proves in the flesh to be as promising as she seemed online then I go ahead with her as intended, but if something about her puts me off I can still pick someone else or just walk away. This process has served me quite well until now.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1195200]Obviously, Artemis's great advantage is that you can hang out, take your time, wait til all in order. The downside is IMHO less quality, and that warm feeling knowing your hallowed tongue and Liebes Wurstchen are among up to 10-15 others who have probed the same cavities that very day. Choices choices.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Not sure I go along with either of your 'downside' caveats. I think that the quality at FKK's is at least as good as in the flats, and I am certainly dubious about your suggestion that the Wohnungspuff girls are in receipt of lower volumes of Schwanz than their counterparts in the FKK market.

I'm not entirely happy either that hygiene in the flats is up to FKK standards either, in terms of the girls cleaning themselves up between sessions. I'd like to see the Artemis girls take full showers between every session, but I know that they don't. Most will simply wash out their mushis after each Zimmer, with perhaps a full shower half way through the day if they've just just had an especially sweaty session. I reckon that the girls in the bordelles pay even less attention to cleanliness than that. Certainly Valerie at Royal was back bouncing around in the flat in her bikini long before I came out of the shower, and given that Kimino and I had occupied both of the bathrooms in the property in the interim, my suggestion would be that 'a quick wipe' must have been the full extent of her contribution to post-coital hygiene.

So, I'd respectfully suggest to you that your suggestion as to the superior 'freshness' of bordelle girls simply doesn't wash (if you'll excuse the pun'

Best.

C

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1195221]Hmmm. Not sure I go along with either of your 'downside' caveats. I think that the quality at FKK's is at least as good as in the flats, and I am certainly dubious about your suggestion that the Wohnungspuff girls are in receipt of lower volumes of Schwanz than their counterparts in the FKK market. , I'd respectfully suggest to you that your suggestion as to the superior 'freshness' of bordelle girls simply doesn't wash (if you'll excuse the pun) '

Best.

C[/QUOTE]To apply (to us both) the immortal words of the Dude: "Well that's just your opinion man". There is a problem with dryness after frequent washing with soap, so that's a whole (hole) separate issue. But I stand by my opinion, that in general I do think the hygiene is a bit better in the flats, at least in Royal, KD, and van K. And, just based on sheer traffic volumes (hence the German slang word for the deed, Verkehr) , the good'uns in apts are surely doing it less than those in the FKKs, for whatever that's worth,

However, I may be influenced by my only visiting (repeatedly) clean, pure virgins in the flats. Anyway, this aside, your normal apts. Recon strategy is pretty much along the lines of which I wrote earlier, so at least we agree on that point. For cuntry and queen.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1162736]Currently the best place for erotic massage, according to the German forum is Roxanna's massgae.

[url]http://roxana.rotlichtmodelle.de/galery.html[/url]

There are just two (sometimes three) ladies working there so do not expect to just show up. Make an appointment. Both the ladies pictured get universally enthusiastic write ups and are very, very popular. Here you will not get sex or even a blow job but, if you play your cards right, you will get just about everything else erotic.

Roxannas's is very high on my list of must do's.

AM[/QUOTE]I would like to confirm that impression: Roxana is a nice mature confident lady, who enjoys to give and receive pleasure (and massages). No sex or blow job, just 60min of increasing intensive joy. She just knows, how to push the right buttons (or whatever).

The salon has now a second location in Tor-Strasse 99 and an additional web site:

[url]http://www.elite-massagen.de/[/url]

The ladies seem to swap the places during the week, so better call before, if you look for someone special.

I spent 2-3 times a 60min / 90E session with very sensitive massage and always left completely satisfied. Never tried some of the offered toys and additional games.

Piefke

Title says it all.

I found a bunch of sites on the argument but maybe someone can point me to a those that are considered to be the more reliables.

Not looking for girls that only come to your hotel but just for opposite. Both independent or agencies.

Thanks for any help and sorry for the very generic question.

Bye

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1195434]Title says it all.

I found a bunch of sites on the argument but maybe someone can point me to a those that are considered to be the more reliables.

Not looking for girls that only come to your hotel but just for opposite. Both independent or agencies.

Thanks for any help and sorry for the very generic question.

Bye[/QUOTE]Not 100% sure what you are asking here Kimino. Is it the most reliable apartment you are after?

All I can say is that for me it has been, in order, Liberty, Kamilla Dee (sort a tie for 1st place) and then Royal. But there are other factors in play like price, general comfort of the bordello and how I am treated by the Hausmutti.

Mon Rouge would also be pretty close to the top. I had many sessions there but most were with the same girl (Adranna-no longer working there as far as I know). But the other two girls I was with were also great sessions. MR became w hole lot less attractive when they raised their rates but I think it is an excellent bordello as Charlie can attest to.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1195461]Not 100% sure what you are asking here Kimino. Is it the most reliable apartment you are after?[/QUOTE]Sorry Angus, I did explain myself very badly.

I'm talking about independent escorts, girls working on their own that accept customers going to their place.

I was looking for sites that promote/categorize independent escorts in berlin.

If any.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1195476]Sorry Angus, I did explain myself very badly.

I'm talking about independent escorts, girls working on their own that accept customers going to their place.

I was looking for sites that promote / categorize independent escorts in berlin.

If any.

Ciao[/QUOTE]Ahh. That is a different story. The ones I know are Berlinintime and Kaufmich. But reliable? Neither would be particularly reliable. That is a function of the indy scene rather than the websites that promote them. I do say a fair bit about this on my website. In my opinion, unless you have credible intel on an indy escort, from one of the German forums, chasing after these ladies is a good way to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] away your money with little result other than frustration. There are a few that get good press but generally I would say avoid the indy scene.

And in any case most of the good ones are out call only.

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/[/url]
[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/[/url]

Huren.net is another one but it is a huge mixture of agency girls with a few indy's thrown in to confuse you.
[url]http://www.huren.net/?notmobile=1[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1195476]Sorry Angus, I did explain myself very badly.

I'm talking about independent escorts, girls working on their own that accept customers going to their place.

I was looking for sites that promote / categorize independent escorts in berlin.

If any.

Ciao[/QUOTE]K-man: Many promote (eg Berlin Intime) but few perform. There are lots of these kaufmich. De, ladies. De berlin-diskrete.de (this forced ISG editing software messes up links-sorry) etc. You may of course get lucky, but the odds are long. Need to speak Deutsch greater. I chronicled some of my experiences earlier. It's too much chance. Photo can be ok, and then you go thru half the city to find it ain't real, etc. Of course as always a taste thing. Your wing man Sir Charles may have some sure things, but IMHO it's really not worth it. You have yet to explore v K and Monrouge. I would start there.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1195499]Ahh. That is a different story. The ones I know are Berlinintime and Kaufmich. But reliable? Neither would be particularly reliable. That is a function of the indy scene rather than the websites that promote them. I do say a fair bit about this on my website.[/QUOTE]Makes sense. Thanks Angus.

We have a lot of this in Italy, often called "Loft Girls".

The only way to select them and try to avoid bad experiences is to rely on sites that publish their info and customers reviews. We have a few big ones.

The reliability of the single reviews is normally questionable so you have also to consider the number of reviews from different accounts. Etc. Etc.

My question was more out of simple curiosity.

The fact that in Berlin there are places like Royal, VK, KD, etc. (and the fact that all of this is absolutely legal) makes the "loft girls" approach less interesting, for some.

Ciao.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1195503]K-man: Many promote (eg Berlin Intime) but few perform. There are lots of these kaufmich. De, ladies. De berlin-diskrete.de (this forced ISG editing software messes up links-sorry) etc. You may of course get lucky, but the odds are long. Need to speak Deutsch greater. I chronicled some of my experiences earlier. It's too much chance. Photo can be ok, and then you go thru half the city to find it ain't real, etc. Of course as always a taste thing. Your wing man Sir Charles may have some sure things, but IMHO it's really not worth it. You have yet to explore v K and Monrouge. I would start there.[/QUOTE]thanks RB. Agree.

As I was saying in previous post with is available in Berlin there's really no need to take stupid risks, especially for people that come in from distant places and that don't want to loose precious visit time.

Best.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1195461]I had many sessions there but most were with the same girl (Adranna-no longer working there as far as I know).AM[/QUOTE]No, sadly not. Bella has also left, as has the incomparable Nicki.

I was on a three days visit in Berlin from 27 to 29 August.

I fancied the photo of Felicia (Kamila la dee)

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/felicia.htm[/url]

And Leonie (Tomsen)

[url]http://www.bundesallee128.de/html/modelle.php[/url]

And wanted to visit them while I was in Berlin. I could see from the KD page that Felicia was only working at 27 and until 15:00. My flight was landing at 16:00, so I called the escort number and made an outcall appointment with Felicia for next day at my hotel.

The next day I went out to buy some beverages as the mini-bar in my hotel was broken and I had nothing to offer her. When I was on my way back I saw Felicia on way to my hotel. She was about 20 minutes early then the agreed time. On my way to the room I saw she was waiting for the elevator. I went to her and introduced myself. What a cute face. She apologized that she was early, but I was happy to meet her sooner. After a quick visit to bathroom she came out and we chit chatted for 10 minutes. After that she started kissing and we undressed each other while DFK. I started with DATY and she was moaning and caressing. After some times she came very hard and was near to pull my skin off me. I could see her nail marks on my back after the session. We had sex in many positions and after about 15 minutes I came in a big orgasm. After that we were lying down and kissing and caressing each other. She tried to go for round two, but I said that I would rather kiss and admire her beautiful face and body. She has big breasts and still a small waist and perfect body without any fat.

After I said goodbye to beautiful Felicia I get a shower and rested a little, it was time for the next girl (Leonie). Arrived at Tomsen and asked for Leonie, but she was busy for the next 45 minutes. Made an appointment to come back after one hour. Came back after one hour and they said that she is still busy for next 15 minutes and I could see other girls. I insisted that I will wait for her and the lady show me a room to wait for her. After about 25 minutes Leonie came to my room and apologized for the wait time. She is pretty but not stunning, has a great tight body and C cups breasts. Her breasts are tight and hard. I would have thought that her breasts were man maid if her body wasn't as tight as her breasts. Was a good PSE session, but not a GFE as I wanted. She was worth waiting for.

Tomsen is a small brothel, but when I was in the room waiting for Leonie, I heard at least 5 other mongers ringing the bell. It must be a popular place.

Street action – My hotel was near kurfesteinstrasse and there was nonstop SW at kurfesteinstrasse. During the day about 5-6 girls. At 21:00 about 20+. At late night / early morning (03:00 & 04:00) still about 5 girls. Bulowstr & end of forbisenstr only transexuals (5 at past midnight). The rate was 20-30 for BJ and 40-50 for sex. Some of the girls were doable and some few also pretty with good bodies. I did sample one petit slim girl for BJ in the sex video cabins for 20 euro and additional 5 euro for the cabin. We agreed for BJ until I finish, but when we were in the cabin, she said that 5 euro for cabin is 5 minutes and that was the time I had. I managed to come in those 5 minutes and the BJ was OK, but she kept reminding me about the time every 1 minute.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1195193]Picking off the website tends to be a bit of an art. I can not say I know exactly how to do it except that I have relied heavily upon intuition to guide me. Sometimes a particular picture jumps out at me. I find myself going back to it again and again. These are the girls I would then book and almost always the session was a good one. I have found it to be an even better way to pick than the parade which I always found stressful, thus hard to make a good pick. Picking a hooker off the website is like picking a winning stock. You use all the info you have then go with gut instinct and hope for the best.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Charlie 123]Trawling through websites over and over, as one tends to do, one is often drawn back to the same pictures, often without quite knowing why. Sometimes there is just something intriguing about a girl that you cannnot put your finger on, but that is enticing. I am usually happy to go with that instinct, even if I am unable to demonstrate to myself what it is about the girl that turns me on.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen, it's all in the eyes.

In the same way that purchasers of thoroughbred racehorses have only minutes to decide on the outlay of millions in the auction ring after studying the catalogue, the experienced moocher eventually develops a "sixth sense" that steers him through the intricacies and nuances of the preliminaries to the old "grunt and groan" game.

And just like racehorses, a "kind eye" is a clue to a willing or giving nature, which, although no out-and-out guarantee, shortens the odds on the likelihood a top-notch experience.

That's my theory anyway...

VG

I find that the thread is very active on those last days : is it an IFA "collateral" result?

[b]Felicia :[/b]

([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/felic-e.htm[/url])

For me (so, a subjective opinion) she's among KD's top beauties.

In the past, Kira told me that it would be easier to meet her at KD rather than to have an "arrangement" ("escort") with her.

I met her twice in May. I think that there was a lack of "chemistry" between us : even if these meetings were very nice, they were not as intensive as what I could read in some posts here (they're lucky guys).

I liked to meet her again : I saw on the schedule that she would work on Friday Sept 2nd, Saturday Sept 3rd, Sunday Sept 4th, Tuesday Sept 6th, Thursday Sept 8th, Friday Sept 9th; so I believed that I would meet her.

[i]Friday Sept 2nd, I was in KD [/i]: I could not have a "long" meeting with her before 14:30, so I left.

[i]Saturday Sept 3rd [/i]: she was deleted from the schedule.

[i]Sunday Sept 4th [/i]: I was in KD and was said that she was ill.

[i]Tuesday Sept 6th and Thursday Sept 8th in the "morning" [/i]: I was not avalaible.

[i]Friday Sept 9th [/i]: I had an appointment at 12:00 with her; when I arrived, she already had to leave KD!

So finally, no meetings with Felicia, this time.

[b]Jenifer :[/b]

([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/jenniff-e.htm[/url])

Fortunately, I could have an "arrangement" with Jenifer on Tuesday Sept 6th at 17:30.

When I read Kimino's post ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1194791&viewfull=1#post1194791[/url]) , I think that I saw them when I had a drink out of KD, waiting for Jenifer : probably a guy with an orange tee-shirt and another one with more or less a suit or a vest / jacket, if I remember (more or less) well.

It's not my first meeting with Jenifer and I felt more and more complicity between us : very pleasant!

I made her exhausted so I did not have the idea to propose her to stay longer (it was probably a mistake because it was so difficult to get an "arrangement" with her)!

[b]Ella:[/b]

([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/ella-e.htm[/url])

On the next day, I could have an "arrangement" with Ella at 18:00 PM.

She had a new hairdress (comparing to her photos on KD's web site).

The meeting was nice and hot because there had been complicity between us since our first meeting already.

This time, it was Ella who made me exhausted!

[b]Suzanne:[/b]

([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/suzan-e.htm[/url])

I met her probably on Sunday Sept 4th in the "morning".

No kisses.

It was a short meeting (30 minutes) and personnally, I didn't need longer.

[b]Marie :[/b]

([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/marie-e.htm[/url])

It was probably on Sunday Sept 4th in the evening.

I had an appointment with [i][b]Chrissie[/b][/i] ([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/chrissie-e.htm[/url]).

Chrissie opened the door to me and told me to wait in a room (the red one).

Finally, Marie came to tell me that Chrissie couldn't meet me; the official reason was that she didn't speak English. (However, on her web page, we can read "Besides her motherlanguage German Chrissie also speaks English" so, I think that other English speaking mongers still may have their chance with Chrissie).

I had a pleasant chat with Marie and so proposed her a short (30 minutes) meeting that was slightly hot.
She gave some slight kisses (probably with some short licks on my lips but I'm not sure).

[b]Marianna :[/b]

([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/marianna-e.htm[/url])

On Friday Sept 9th, when I called KD for an "appointment" with Felicia, the housekeeper didn't speak English,so she had to look for someone to answer me with a charming voice : it was Marianna that I hadn't met for years (probably our last meeting was in December 2007 :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=679679&viewfull=1#post679679[/url]; [i]by the way, I had to search this post manually because the function "View Forum Posts" couldn't find all my posts[/i]).

Marianna gave me an appointment with Felicia for 12:00.

When I arrived, Felicia had to leave KD so I asked for a meeting with Marianna : the unique possibility was a 30 minutes-meeting at 13:15.

So I had to spend one hour and 15 minutes outside. As I expected having a massage with her, I just ate a soup in a restaurant close to KD.

The meeting was pleasant especially when we talked about the past (the past in general : our past words and also the past of Germany).

[b]Summary:[/b]
Very hot (pleasant, nice) long meetings with Jenifer and Ella , a pleasant short meeting with Marianna.
These meetings compensate the missed meetings with Felicia and Chrissie.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;1195968]When I read Kimino's post (http://www.internationalsexguide.inf.=1#post1194791) , I think that I saw them when I had a drink out of KD, waiting for Jenifer : probably a guy with an orange tee-shirt and another one with more or less a suit or a vest / jacket, if I remember (more or less) well.[/QUOTE]Yes!

I was the one with the t-shirt, Charlie the other one.

Ahahahah.

Nice girls at KD, so it really looks that making appointments is compulsory there.

Just dropping in didn't work for us.

Thanks for the report and hope to meet you in some occasion.

Ciao.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1196033]Yes!

I was the one with the t-shirt, Charlie the other one.

Etc.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Well, Charlie, it's not very discrete to check your wallet (your banknotes?) in the street like that! (LOL)

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1190024]Hi,

[url]http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Julia.html[/url]

Heartbreakingly beautiful girl, just as fabulous in reality as in her pics. Ex-model, comes from Bayern but in Berlin for the summer whilst doing her studies. Says she's 22 why. O, could easily be true.

Very pleasant and educated girl, friendly, speaks perfect English, easy and relaxed attitude, sexy and skilled in the bedroom. The perfect GF in fact!

Available by appointment only. Base price was 150E for the hour, extras such as kissing and BBBJ made the total up to 190E, so of course I gave her 200. Expensive, but worth it.

Lovely soft kissing, light DFK, prolonged DATY, lovely soft BJ.

Super girl, highly recommended.

Charlie[/QUOTE]
[b]1)[/b] Thanks to Charlie for your post about Julia.

[b] 2)[/b] When I saw her webpages, I decided to try my best to meet her during my trip in Berlin.

I sent an email (on August 25th) to MonRouge (MR) including Kimino's question (could the meeting take place in MR's rooms?)

On August 28th, I got the following answer (that can be useful for other forumers) :

[i]"In the Daytime you pay for 60 minutes 150- and for 30 min 80-

In the night time for 60 minutes 160- for 30 minutes 100-

This is Includet normal saver sex, massage, Strip and Kisses. For any other extras you have to talk to the Girls."[/i]

So no answer about Kimino's question but Kimino and me had an answer from Charlie himself since.

I sent another email but didn't get any answer : I would see at the place when I was in Berlin.

[b] 3) Friday Sept 2nd [/b]

As I could not have a long meeting in the morning with Kamilla Dee's Felicia ( see [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1195968&viewfull=1#post1195968[/url] ), I went to MR (bus 101 directly from KD to MR).

I realized that the no-discrete club I saw was BelAmi, not MonRouge (but I wonder if in the past it was rather MonRouge than BelAmi).

Later, I put a post here (in ISG forum) to correct my mistake : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1193897&viewfull=1#post1193897[/url]

I rang and came into MR (1rst floor) : see Angus' video at [url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=552[/url] .

A young lady led me thru a living room where I saw two men (I think they were probably MR's personal rather than customers) to a room in the right side.

She told me that only Sybel was avalaible.
I told her that I would like to meet Julia. She tried to call her (vainly) for an appointment.

Sybel was an attractive lady (face and figure) : [url]http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Sybel.html[/url]

Apparently, MR's norm is that Frenchkisses are proposed as extras : 10 Euros.

In general, paid kisses are very disppointing but Sybel's kisses were very deep and passionated !

The meeting was very hot!

When I left MR, the housekeeper told me that she failed in calling Julia. I gave her my Mobile number and she promised me that she would let me know.

[b] 4) Saturday Sept 3rd [/b]

I realized that a SMS was sent to me before 9 AM to propose me a meeting with Julia for around 18:00.

I confirmed this appointment.

Around 18:00 , I met Julia in a large but unfortunately dark (that prevented me from "watching intensively" the Beauty) room next to the living room.

Julia's Frenchkisses (extras) were less deep than Sybel's. Nice meeting but we didn't manage very well the sex "part" of the meeting that was finished around the first 30 minutes : we spent the following 30 minutes mostly in chatting. I will try to manage better the meeting if ever I can meet her a next time.

[b] 5) Summary[/b]
Very positive experiences !!

Half of the experienece for me is just dropping by and waiting for the line up. I have always had a very decent line up of 6-8 girls at KD and never left because of a lack of talent. Of course I do my homework and recearch the pictures on the site closely and adding a few names to my to-do-list in my head. But when I face the lineup the pictures fade away and its all about the look and vibe from the girls at that moment.

Even though I had some great sessions with girls that are still working at KD I also have a fever for new adventures with new girls so I think I'll rarely, probably never, will make an appointment until that fever is gone.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1196033]Nice girls at KD, so it really looks that making appointments is compulsory there.

Just dropping in didn't work for us.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph; 1196228]Half of the experienece for me is just dropping by and waiting for the line up. I have always had a very decent line up of 6-8 girls at KD and never left because of a lack of talent. Of course I do my homework and recearch the pictures on the site closely and adding a few names to my to-do-list in my head. But when I face the lineup the pictures fade away and its all about the look and vibe from the girls at that moment.

Even though I had some great sessions with girls that are still working at KD I also have a fever for new adventures with new girls so I think I'll rarely, probably never, will make an appointment until that fever is gone.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Kimino; 1196033]Nice girls at KD, so it really looks that making appointments is compulsory there.

Just dropping in didn't work for us.[/QUOTE]Well, some ladies only work with appointments ("nur termine") as Ella and the second parameter is how long do we stay in Berlin (my last stay was the longest (around 9 days) and once I was there just for around 60 hours).

During my last stay, the new lady Penny was probably always "fully booked".

By the way, I remember that in KD, a redheaded lady (Karina) started and stopped working between my two consecutive trips to Berlin, so I could not meet her : if I was a Berliner resident, I would have a chance to meet her.

Bobo.

Thanks for your extensive report on the ladies of KLD. All the ones you saw seem fabulous on the website. None of them were present when Kimino and I turned up unfortunately. Felicia looks a 'must-do' for me. Just the sort of figure that I like. I have only really had one session at KLD, with Clarissa, but I get a real good feel about the place. Even though Kimino and I blew out on the day, I'm sure that we were just unlucky with the line-up at the time and I will certainly return. On balance, would you advise booking in advance or turning up on spec?

As regards my checking my bankroll in the street, I have to tell you that I am totally unworried about getting robbed in Berlin. I would never hand over even 10 euros to a robber in the street unless he showed me a gun, and Berlin ain't the Bronx.

Reference Monrouge, I'm happy you liked the place even though your session with Julia wasn't perfect by the sound of it. Didn't you think that she was just stunningly pretty, or am I giving her greater credit for her looks than is due?

I remember, even though it was 2 years ago, that I also was impressed the two times I went to Tomsen. I think it is quite popular. I have also had to wait there in the past. I suspect that it is something of an 'insider's' place. Quiet and unassuming, but known by the cognoscenti to offer high levels of service.

Best.........

Charlie

I tryed sending an email to MR some days before leaving for Berlin but never got an answer.

Regarding the appointments thing, on my next visit I'll try to fix an appointment with Ella, a girl currently working at Odette (thanks Angus for the info) , try to fix one with Julia at MR (if she is still there when I'll be in Berlin) and for the rest I'll probably just drop in at Royal. If I'm really in a programmatic mood, might check out VK and KD.

Strange to be heard from me but the more I think about it, the less I'm interested in Artemis. Or better, the more I see artemis as a chillout area after having had the real fun elsewhere.

Things change.

Ciao.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1196354]I tryed sending an email to MR some days before leaving for Berlin but never got an answer.

Regarding the appointments thing, on my next visit I'll try to fix an appointment with Ella, a girl currently working at Odette (thanks Angus for the info) , try to fix one with Julia at MR (if she is still there when I'll be in Berlin) and for the rest I'll probably just drop in at Royal. If I'm really in a programmatic mood, might check out VK and KD.

[/QUOTE]My experience is that I almost always get better service in an apartment if I call ahead and make a booking. My theory about this is that the girls feel a bit flattered when you book them like that. Maybe this is not a totally conscious thing for them but never the less I find it works in my favor. Picking a girl out of the parade always has more of a "meat market" feel to it and is thus does not have quite the same impact on the girl's ego. The same is true in Artemis really. If you can communicate to the girl, with out saying it, that out of all the girls, she is the one that you want, this will almost always get her juices going a little bit more.

As for email bookings-generally I would forget about it. I do not really think many bordellos pay much attention to email bookings. I can imagine that for them it is not the most reliable way of setting up appointments. Best is to call ahead an hour or two before you want to go in and then show up on time, calling ahead if you are running late.

AM

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1196273]I remember, even though it was 2 years ago, that I also was impressed the two times I went to Tomsen. I think it is quite popular. I have also had to wait there in the past. I suspect that it is something of an 'insider's' place. Quiet and unassuming, but known by the cognoscenti to offer high levels of service.[/QUOTE]I found Tomsen to be a strange little bordello. You are right, if you can find the right girl there the price is hard to beat. But not every girl gets good reviews (Nataly's reviews are consistently good) and those that don't seem to be pretty bad. The other difficulty with this place is that I suspect not all the girls are present. That is some girl have worked there some months back yet still they remain on the web page. Hey, even Mon Rouge used to do this little trick consistently. It is, I guess, a good way to get punters in the door even if a little dishonest.

The other difficulty I personally have with Tomsen is the rooms are so damn small. This may not be important to some, how much room does one really need after all, but these rooms are tiny. Most consist of a smal area with a chair and sink and then a sort of cubby hole in which to do the deed. They are so small that if I were to stand on the bed I would hit my head on the ceiling. Over all I have always felt cramped and constricted in these rooms. Contrast this to Royal where you could fit a whole football team into most rooms. But then you are paying a whole lot less chez Tomsen.

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1196354]Strange to be heard from me but the more I think about it, the less I'm interested in Artemis. Or better, the more I see artemis as a chillout area after having had the real fun elsewhere.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Kimino. Well, at least I am not alone in this flats vs Arts thing. But this will be an expensive chill, and I would be quite surprised if you (of all people) had the will just chill without a thrill.

I also suspect that after a few visits, you will have burned through the flats.

FYI. The all naked Thermal Bath just past Europa Center, then left north on Nuremburger str, left side, with its roof top heated pools, sauna, etc. Would be a far cheaper chill.

They even have a lot of au natural women there, not to mention some gay men. But most (but not all) over 60! That helps the chill factor a lot.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1196416]Kimino. Well, at least I am not alone in this flats vs Arts thing. But this will be an expensive chill, and I would be quite surprised if you (of all people) had the will just chill without a thrill.

I also suspect that after a few visits, you will have burned through the flats.

FYI. The all naked Thermal Bath just past Europa Center, then left north on Nuremburger str, left side, with its roof top heated pools, sauna, etc. Would be a far cheaper chill.

They even have a lot of au natural women there, not to mention some gay men. But most (but not all) over 60! That helps the chill factor a lot.[/QUOTE]Ciao RB.

There's no "vs" for me. Ahaha.

Just calibrating between the 2 things to find the best value (not economical) for my short trips to Berlin.

I had such fun with Charlie, going around for clubs before ending at Artemis that I really look forward for a repeat of some kind.

I'm also gathering some info on Stuttgart as I really enjoyed Paradise and was wondering if there's other stuff that would justify a trip there.

Yep, it's a lazy Monday with not much to do. :)

Ciao

[QUOTE=Kimino;1196425]I had such fun with Charlie, going around for clubs before ending at Artemis that I really look forward for a repeat of some kind.[/QUOTE]Having a wingman is essential for any good mongering activities in my experience. And Charlie is one of the best.

AM

Hello, Charlie,

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1196273]. etc . On balance, would you advise booking in advance or turning up on spec?[/QUOTE]Personnally, I prefer booking in advance; apparently this preference seems odd to (some?) Dutch and Kolner-German punters!

The main problem would be that we could only base our choice on photos (but this is common to "real" escort system).

For those who work only with appointments ("nur termine"/"appointments only") , we have no choice! (Examples : Nicole, Caro, Ella, Lisa in [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/girls_e.htm[/url])

But most of them work for both ("escorts" and "at the house Blissestrasse") so what I often try to do is to notice the ladies during the parade; often those who are there but not avalaible (their appointments are coming) don't come to the parade, so I ask the housekeeper if I can meet them just for few seconds (Jenifer, Felicia for example) and try to book them later (that can mean months later!)

As you know, there are "appointments" system and "arrangements" (called "escort" in the past) system : see [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1062086#post1062086[/url]

With the "arrangement" system, the lady wasn't planned on the house's schedule and came (at your hotel or at Blissestrass) just for you : the interest was that, in general, it was very easy to expand the meeting-time (my first meeting with Ella was initially for one hour (as I never met her before) but finally lasted 2h30!

Recently, I read that a forumer could not expand the meeting-time with Aphrodite because she was not avalaible.

This was the only risk, it's why when I asked for an "arrangement" I often added the possibility of extension.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1196273]. Etc.

Reference Monrouge, I'm happy you liked the place even though your session with Julia wasn't perfect by the sound of it. Didn't you think that she was just stunningly pretty, or am I giving her greater credit for her looks than is due?[/QUOTE]I renew my thanks for your post mentionning Julia.

I will try to meet her again but in a less dark room.

The second point will be to manage better the timing (may be "my" DATY was too efficient (LOL)?)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1196359]. Etc.

As for email bookings-generally I would forget about it. I do not really think many bordellos pay much attention to email bookings. I can imagine that for them it is not the most reliable way of setting up appointments. Best is to call ahead an hour or two before you want to go in and then show up on time, calling ahead if you are running late.

AM[/QUOTE]With Kamilla-Dee, there are "appointments" and "arrangements" ("escorts") : see [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1062086#post1062086[/url]

For KD's appointments : only phone calls should be used.

For KD's arrangements : email can be used efficiently, phone calls possible (notice that phone numbers for appointments and for arrangements are NOT the same) , SMS possible (BUT NOT with the phone numbers published on the web site; KD will give you the right number for SMS after first contacts).

03:00 depart from home, fine weather in Berlin. Breakfast, long sightseeing walk, lunch before taking apartment in Shoeneberg €60 / night. Beautiful neighbourhood with good transport connections. Strongly recommended.

Main event of the day: taking my 84 year old father to Artemis. I arrange entertainment, he is generous enough just to spectate and pay.

Artemis is easy to get to from Westkreuz (just keep going left out of the station). Friendly efficient reception and we can already see amazing near naked girls walking past the top of the reception stairs.

7pm on a Monday: supposedly a quiet day. After getting over the initial shock of dozens of stunning (really) girls, I did a quick count. There were 30 or so and about a dozen punters. By about 10pm there were 50 girls but nearly as many punters.

We talked to an italian, a canadian, some locals and a punter from Dubai. They all agreed it was the best display of women they had ever seen. Some of the girls were content to wait (quite a long time) to be chosen. Others walked around and nonchalantly bent over, tweaked a nipple, or rubbed their pussy, as one does if trying not to draw attention. Some were more upfront, coming really close or sitting on your lap and trying to persuade you to try them. None were too pushy, however and many were charming and very tempting. We talked to german, Hungarian, Romanian and columbian girls among others.

I had already decided on one of at least 4 girls astonishingly close to my ideal: very slim blondes with small breasts, narrow hips and long legs. I have NEVER had a choice of such girls! I chose Cindy from Poland but also spoke to Verena from Bulgaria.

I wanted to make the most of the Artemis experience so my dad and I enjoyed the view, had a sauna etc and I delayed going with Cindy for about an hour and a half.

Cindy had a beautiful smile, spoke good english and my session with her was very good. Stunning smooth body, slow, deep OWO. 69, lengthy cowgirl with varying pace and depth but absolutely excellent then doggy and missionary. She doesn't kiss and it wasn't exactly a GFE but I am 3 times her age (yes I should be ashamed but I'm not) and she put a lot of effort into giving me a really good time. Just to feel that perfect girlish figure was amazing.

Afterwards I introduced her to my father and then commended her to another punter who chose her and Verena to give him a private show (!)

We enjoyed the buffet before a last tour of the premises. By this time it was busier and the girls were being more forward. By 10:30 anybody sat in the Kino alone was guaranteed to have a girl come and sit next to him and often to kiss, fondle and even give a blow job, and this just as an invitation to the main event.

I did find myself wondering whether instead of going for my 'perfect girl' I should have gone with the flow and let a girl try hard to convince me. I am very choosy but of the 50 girls there. 10 were my type, another 20 I would have done without hesitation 10 could have convinced me to try them and only the last 10 would I not have wanted.

My father didn't partake but loved the whole experience. We may return but I don't expect to. I want to try some of Berlin's other offerings. I doubt whether they will live up to this, but I live in hope.

Total damage:

€80 + €40 (pensioner's rate!) entrance.

€40 for 4 beers (ouch!)

€60 for 30min owo. 69 and sex with a goddess.

= 2 satisfied customers.

Postscript:

There was a little guy curled up on a couch most of the time we were there. As we left he was asking about the U-Bahn so we guided him there. He turned out to be french and a bit shell shocked and we discovered he had been there since 10am and had been with five girls 'mais la cinquieme and'etait pas si bon que les autres' we congratulated him and I invited him to join me on a budget session at King George tomorrow.

To be continued

Hello,

Here's the thread dedicated to Artemis : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin[/url]

[QUOTE=Daffon; 1196577]03:00 depart from home, fine weather in Berlin. Breakfast, long sightseeing walk, lunch before taking apartment in Shoeneberg €60 / night. Beautiful neighbourhood with good transport connections. Strongly recommended.

Main event of the day: taking my 84 year old father to Artemis. I arrange entertainment, he is generous enough just to spectate and pay.

Artemis is easy to get to from Westkreuz (just keep going left out of the station). Friendly efficient reception and we can already see amazing near naked girls walking past the top of the reception stairs.

7pm on a Monday: supposedly a quiet day. After getting over the initial shock of dozens of stunning (really) girls, I did a quick count. There were 30 or so and about a dozen punters. By about 10pm there were 50 girls but nearly as many punters.

We talked to an italian, a canadian, some locals and a punter from Dubai. They all agreed it was the best display of women they had ever seen. Some of the girls were content to wait (quite a long time) to be chosen. Others walked around and nonchalantly bent over, tweaked a nipple, or rubbed their pussy, as one does if trying not to draw attention. Some were more upfront, coming really close or sitting on your lap and trying to persuade you to try them. None were too pushy, however and many were charming and very tempting. We talked to german, Hungarian, Romanian and columbian girls among others.

I had already decided on one of at least 4 girls astonishingly close to my ideal: very slim blondes with small breasts, narrow hips and long legs. I have NEVER had a choice of such girls! I chose Cindy from Poland but also spoke to Verena from Bulgaria.

I wanted to make the most of the Artemis experience so my dad and I enjoyed the view, had a sauna etc and I delayed going with Cindy for about an hour and a half.

Cindy had a beautiful smile, spoke good english and my session with her was very good. Stunning smooth body, slow, deep OWO. 69, lengthy cowgirl with varying pace and depth but absolutely excellent then doggy and missionary. She doesn't kiss and it wasn't exactly a GFE but I am 3 times her age (yes I should be ashamed but I'm not) and she put a lot of effort into giving me a really good time. Just to feel that perfect girlish figure was amazing.

Afterwards I introduced her to my father and then commended her to another punter who chose her and Verena to give him a private show (!)

We enjoyed the buffet before a last tour of the premises. By this time it was busier and the girls were being more forward. By 10:30 anybody sat in the Kino alone was guaranteed to have a girl come and sit next to him and often to kiss, fondle and even give a blow job, and this just as an invitation to the main event.

I did find myself wondering whether instead of going for my 'perfect girl' I should have gone with the flow and let a girl try hard to convince me. I am very choosy but of the 50 girls there. 10 were my type, another 20 I would have done without hesitation 10 could have convinced me to try them and only the last 10 would I not have wanted.

My father didn't partake but loved the whole experience. We may return but I don't expect to. I want to try some of Berlin's other offerings. I doubt whether they will live up to this, but I live in hope.

Total damage:

€80 + €40 (pensioner's rate!) entrance.

€40 for 4 beers (ouch!)

€60 for 30min owo. 69 and sex with a goddess.

= 2 satisfied customers.

Postscript:

There was a little guy curled up on a couch most of the time we were there. As we left he was asking about the U-Bahn so we guided him there. He turned out to be french and a bit shell shocked and we discovered he had been there since 10am and had been with five girls 'mais la cinquieme and'etait pas si bon que les autres' we congratulated him and I invited him to join me on a budget session at King George tomorrow.

To be continued[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1196696]Hello,

Here's the thread dedicated to Artemis :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the cross reference Bobo but I intend a travelogue with 3, 4 or maybe even 5 daily experiences covering a wide variety of Berlin's offerings, I wanted to keep these together in one thread!

Just about to go to King George (with one of your countrymen if I interpret the. Fr of your nickname).

Daffon

[QUOTE=Daffon;1196740]Thanks for the cross reference[/QUOTE]I posted a link in the Artemis thread to this thread. Technically a report on Artemis should be there but hey, at least you made a report so I for one am not complaining.

AM

[QUOTE] Main event of the day: taking my 84 year old father to Artemis. I arrange entertainment, [/QUOTE]

D- this story truely rocks. Very cool your old man was up to it. I think Ye skanky Olde King George may put you off. You might rather just take a tour with him of the better apts, as discussed ad nauseum in this fabulous forum. Or even better, the swingers club Insomnia, or Kit Kat? Just dress sort of black on black, don't act like stupid tourists, and they might be very accommodating given how unique this all is. Bravo to your father.

This is weird, they have shot this rapvideo in the locations of Erlebniswohnung in Karl Marx strasse 155:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1m3HH9RIh8&feature=related[/url]

And I will use this opportunity to thank the girl with long black hair for the kissings and BBBJCIM.

Does anyone know this girl? And where she works or where I can find her? I am next week in Berlin.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLIxDgO6Q4E[/url]

For sure I am going to artemis but I will maybe check this girl too.

It has been ten years since I was last in Berlin. Is there still an active Red Light District?

Services and Prices?

Nationality of ladies?

Thanks for your help.

Il Duca,

There are only the street hookers around U-Bahnhof Kurfürstenstrasse and north of the central train station. Berlin has changed (look for e. G. Artemis, berlinintim, Erlebniswohnung and the big name brothels van Kampen, Kamilla Dee and Royal) and compared to Hamburg and Amsterdam there is no condensed RLD. I would not go for the cheap fuck with the SW (mostly Eastern European) and instead maximise value in the brothels.

[QUOTE=Il Duca; 1197054]It has been ten years since I was last in Berlin. Is there still an active Red Light District?

Services and Prices?

Nationality of ladies?

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]

I met up with my French friend just after 4pm (he was very keen) and we made our way to King George. I have been to flat rate places before and I know I cannot expect stunning girls or a GFE experience. Still, quantity and variety and value have their own appeal.

A different man was on the door and didn't know whether the Polish nymph Alina I had seen on my recon visit was going to be there. We took our free drinks and sat and chatted in the bar. There were four girls there from slimmish and short to rubenesque. All friendly enough but I was waiting for my 'zierlich' and 'maedelform' girl. Frenchie had no such reservations and went off for his first session.

When Alina didn't show and not wanting to be left behind, I went with Katia from Hungary. Long braided hair extensions gave her an exotic look and the session was fine, if vanilla, with covered owo and no kissing but the usual variety of positions and no undue hurrying up.

A few drinks later and a couple more girls had arrived, pole dancing was really quite good and I went with Oxana a tall Romanian with a pony tail, oval face, slim body and fantastic legs and bum. She was wearing the tiniest denim hot pants and these looked fantastic. She was pretty unenthusiastic in the room but her body was even better nude.

I saw the man from Monday and asked him about Alina. He immediately called her up and asked her to come in. I was both pleased and apprehensive. She hadn't sounded keen. Half an hour later she turned up and we talked. She put it to me that I should buy a bottle of champagne and she could give me an hour in the room rather than the standard 20 minutes. She didn't want to tell me how much and I was pretty sure I wasn't going to do this but I pressed her. She claimed not to be sure but she thought it was about €170! Well, maybe she would have been fantastic in the room but I couldn't believe it would compare with two hours with Aphrodite at KD or entry and 3 sessions at Artemis so I declined. She agreed to come to the room for a standard session and gave me a perfectly good time. Still, I felt bad and she was irritated despite saying 'is no problem'. Just touching and watching her tiny firm body had me feeling both guilty and delighted.

After Alina I felt a bit bad and at 3 girls all, frenchie and I sat and talked (in French – I spent much of the evening interpreting from French to German and after more girls and drinks this became increasingly difficult). Claudia came and sat on between us with one leg over each lap. We fondled her while she flirted. I persuaded frenchie to try his first threesome. He wasn't sure but thought it would be an experience. Well it was fun but not technically a success. He couldn't get hard enough despite Claudia's best efforts, meanwhile I steamrollered away at the other end, unable to come again (I'm 56 BTW). We gave Claudia a tip for (excellent) kissing but this still didn't do the trick. After 40 energetic minutes we declared an entente cordiale and staggered out.

I suggested food and Kamagra to frenchie and we repaired to my apartment for this and once refreshed back into the fray. He went off with another girl and came back reporting very good results from the Kamagra (

[url]http://www.kamagranow.co.uk/[/url]

). I was watching Alina sitting and flirting with new arrivals, still lusting after her and feeling jealous, waiting for the only other girl who floated my boat. Re-energised like the Duracell bunny frenchie wanted to try again solo with Claudia.

Quite a few more men had arrived so I pounced on Petronella as she came out from a session. She knew I had been waiting and said 'alright then, let's go'. I found her easy going and pleasant with a fine meissen figure body and even enjoyed her modesly enhanced boobs. No trace of a scar. This was a quickie and the oral was a bit rough (especially after 4 sessions) but the sex was really quite good and I came for the second time of the evening in covered sex. I can't often do this.

I negotiated a cab for frenchie who had missed the last U-Bahn and walked back to my apartment.

Total damage.

€99 entry.

€15 tip to Alina (cheapskate, I know)

€10 for kissing to Claudia.

=€124 for 5 girls about 8 drinks.

Definitely quality over quantity, I reflected and made up my mind that the next session would be to try for Aphrodite at Kamilla La Dee on Thursday. My father may come and see what their S&M offering is like.

I have made email contact with Berlin-Modelle. De and have established that Sandra is available for an outcall at €120 / hour but I think I will leave this to Friday.

I also decided to have a cultural day off on Wednesday to allow body and budget to recover for the rest of the week.

Ich wuensche das ich ein Berliner war.

Daffon

[QUOTE=Seqoya; 1197046]Does anyone know this girl? And where she works or where I can find her? I am next week in Berlin.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLIxDgO6Q4E[/url]

For sure I am going to artemis but I will maybe check this girl too.[/QUOTE]I would guess that this video was shot in Mitte (Oranienburgerstr.) so if she is working than this is where you would find her. But this video has been around for quite some time. I would find it unlikely that you could find her. But you never know.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranienburger_Stra%C3%9Fe[/url]

One other thing though-her rates-€250 for half an hour, no touching tits, no kissing no anything else? You can do way better than this in Berlin for that money. Way, way, way better. In fact I would say that to pay that sort of cash for that level of girl and service is stupidity. Despite the title of the video I would say with 100% certainty that she is far from the best prostitute in Germany. More like bottom 10. I will admit she is sort of cute and has a nice energy, but she way over estimates her value.

AM

Tada! My first post!

I have been a silent reader in this forum for some time, but with only some days left until my first visit to Berlin, it's time to post some questions.

I will spend some three days and intend to visit the obvious Artemis, Royal and Liberty.

(Also Kashima. I know. No sex. Just a fantastic relaxing sensational naked experience not to be found in my country. On my list-to do before I die).

I have searched Berlinintim. De for an escort and decided to try LoveAngels Berlin and JASMIN. (With webadress [url]http://www.Vip-Angels.de/jasmin/jasmin.html[/url])

I would very much like to know if someone has som prior experience with the agency or the girl of my choice.

I have RTTF and wrestled with the searchfunction and only found some non relevant posts from 2006.

Grateful for any info or comment / MrMustard.

(And there will be reviews of my trip.)

[QUOTE=MeanMrMustard; 1197396]I have searched Berlinintim. De for an escort and decided to try LoveAngels Berlin and JASMIN. (With webadress.

[url]http://www.Vip-Angels.de/jasmin/jasmin.html[/url]

) [/QUOTE]She has been in the press [url]http://www.bz-berlin.de/aktuell/berlin/ich-arbeite-als-hure-im-altersheim-article1118472.html[/url] For visiting pensioneers in their apartments. So if you are a pensioneer then she might be interested in you. I would be cautious because being in the media results in financial expectations (celeb!) or a starfish attitude. What are you looking for? If it is boobs then [url]http://www.sexintheciti.de/[/url] Is my choice.

[QUOTE=MeanMrMustard; 1197396]I have searched Berlinintim. De for an escort and decided to try LoveAngels Berlin and JASMIN. (With webadress.

[url]http://www.Vip-Angels.de/jasmin/jasmin.html[/url]

)

I would very much like to know if someone has som prior experience with the agency or the girl of my choice.

I have RTTF and wrestled with the searchfunction and only found some non relevant posts from 2006.

Grateful for any info or comment / MrMustard.

(And there will be reviews of my trip.) [/QUOTE]I did use an agency by this name some years back. The reviews are somewhere way back in the forum. I doubt though that will have much relevance. Looking at the website I can not even say for sure that it is the same agency. But the agency I used bu that name (Love Angels) I remember as a decent experience.

I do not think you will find anything more here about this agency. It is pretty much below the radar for some reason.

Personally-I would go for something with a little more repetition. Check out Charlies (Charlie 123) posts here in the Berlin forum. He covers a good deal of the lower end agencies with often som good results.

On the other hand, €120 for the hour is not an outrageous sum to risk. And escorts almost always involve a higher risk-of unsatisfactory experience that is. Not of life and / or limb.

AM

[QUOTE=Tonio1; 1197510]She has been in the press.

[url]http://www.bz-berlin.de/aktuell/berlin/ich-arbeite-als-hure-im-altersheim-article1118472.html[/url]

For visiting pensioneers in their apartments. So if you are a pensioneer then she might be interested in you. I would be cautious because being in the media results in financial expectations (celeb!) or a starfish attitude. What are you looking for? If it is boobs then.

[url]http://www.sexintheciti.de/[/url]

Is my choice.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the quick answer!

Never expected that actually. This forum really is something.

Interesting article you found. Good info. In the article she was connected to Haupstadt Escort. (And in this forum an agency with not so good reputatation)

I see your point of a starfish attitude. Damn. Her pictures really got a grip of my soul.

And that is my problem. I don't know what I look for until I see it. I have decided to try an escort in Berlin and some pictures really stand out. And with the help of some reviews by Charlie123 for instance, there is always pros and cons.

My first choice was Corinna in Klein und Zierlich but she seems retired as she is no longer on theire website. Damn.

So now perhaps Sophie at Kamilla Dee. Her pictures. That smile.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1197516]On the other hand, €120 for the hour is not an outrageous sum to risk. And escorts almost always involve a higher risk-of unsatisfactory experience that is. Not of life and / or limb[/QUOTE]Angus is absolutely right. I have just had an hour (only about 45 minutes actually when she left 15 minutes ago) with one of the tiniest most exquisite working girl I have seen. Had done until Artemis!

Sandra at [url]http://escortmodelle24.de/escortservice_10.html[/url]

She wasn't enthusiastic but she was agreeable and compliant. I'm not sure where I would even find a girl like that in the UK. If I did, she would cost much more especially as an outcall.

Some of the other girls on this site look great as well. They respond to emails within 24 hours and Sandra turned up to my apartment within 5 minutes of the appointment.

I knew I was unlikely to get a GFE but the only other risk, of a bait and switch didn't occur. Despite reverting to brunette she was resoundingly the stunning girl in the pictures.

I particularly enjoy a girl who is elegantly dressed and Sandra certainly was. She reminded me very much of Martha in Athens who looked like a ballet dancer invited to a smart reception.

When nude I told her she resembled an Art Deco bronze dancing girl and she was amused. She was scrupulous about cleaning me up with wipes, so any suggestion that she does BB seem very unlikely. Although she only took the tip into her mouth, her BBJ was sloppy and sensuous. When she got on top initially she again just bobbed up and down so the tip went in and out of her. Amazing. After that we did any position I liked.

Originally I had planned to see Aphrodite at Kamilla la Dee but contrary to what is implied by the schedule, she works 11am to 4pm so I hope to do this tomorrow. Although she is undoubted quality I hope that she will be a bit warmer. I have had some cheap girls and some stunning girls and some very good sex but I haven't had any fun girls.

Daffon

[QUOTE=MeanMrMustard;1197532]So now perhaps Sophie at Kamilla Dee. Her pictures. That smile.[/QUOTE]In Berlin there are hardly ever Latinas! If you see one catch because most leave after a while though I don't know why.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1197366]I would guess that this video was shot in Mitte (Oranienburgerstr.) so if she is working than this is where you would find her. But this video has been around for quite some time. I would find it unlikely that you could find her. But you never know.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranienburger_Stra%C3%9Fe[/url]

One other thing though-her rates-€250 for half an hour, no touching tits, no kissing no anything else? You can do way better than this in Berlin for that money. Way, way, way better. In fact I would say that to pay that sort of cash for that level of girl and service is stupidity. Despite the title of the video I would say with 100% certainty that she is far from the best prostitute in Germany. More like bottom 10. I will admit she is sort of cute and has a nice energy, but she way over estimates her value.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks mate. Yeah no way I pay that amount of money for a streethooker and that kind of service. But I thought maybe someone knows her here. And knows how she works. Maybe it was also a bit bullshit with that guy on the youtube film.

But anyway, I am going to artemis and I think that will be good fun!

I just left Berlin after being there for five days and I was fortunate enough to enjoy two fabulous appointments with Julia. I have read in some treads that is supposedly more expensive to be with her than other girls but what I have to say about this is that she is way, way better than any other girl you can find in Berlin.

She is not only beatiful in the outside (way more than in her pictures on the Monrouge website) but also (and this is really hard to find) beatiful in the inside: an incredibly nice, sweet, sexy and passionate girl that made me feel like the King Of The World. If you want to find someone that is going to make you feel really special make yourself a favour and go to see her, but always remember to treat her like the Queen that she is and also be generous with her. If I lived in Berlin I would go to see her every week.

Walked in to Salon Prestige a couple of hours ago with a memorised shorlist in my mind. The names of the girls who would let you finger, lick out and jizz on them as I felt I needed a raw time. Was introduced to approx 6 öare 7 girls. The only one being present on my short list Carmen.

I would estimate Carmen is 26-29 years old, probably at least half Turkish or half Greek, and a Berliner. Even with my moderate German I can tell that she does not speak with an accent of someone who has only been here a short while and would guess she has been here most of her life. She has a slim but curvy figure, no tattoes but has nipple piercings.

We started standing up, French kissing with one of my legs wapped around one of hers, rubbing my dick on her black stockinged leg. I then put her on her back, licked her nips till they turned hard and licked and then fingered her now wet pussy, ending up with deep fingering while licking her clit. I then shagged her, putting her legs over my shoulders, then rubbed my dick on her body and wanked off over her and jizzed a proud amount of the stuff on her tits and bod. As I was wanking off over her she was furiously fingering herself.

Cost was a very fair E120 for 45 mins and I tipped her a further 20 as she gave me some Spanish which haden't been discussed beforehand. The action itself was only 25 mins as I was knackered after being on the ale and watching the footy yesterday. Did not drink enough to get even half drunk but had a steady enough amount to be feeling the effects today so started the day quietly by visiting Dietrich's grave, then a breakfast at a Cafe at Zoologischer Garten accompanied by a 50mg Viagra. Though I don't really need then as I don't have any probs getting a boner on and they don't reduce the recovery period to an extent where I would be able to bang twice in a short space of time.

Anyway, to sum up, anyone looking for a PSE could do a lot worse than Carmen.

Went into Liberty earlier this afternoon with a plan of action. I looked who was in on Tuesdays on their website but without looking at the planned hours as while I've found the girls here seem to be fairly consistent with the days, they will vary the hours as much as anyone working flexi. My plan was to see either Kelly or Pia. I've seen Kelly before and could not really fault her while I wanted to try Pia but just in a nice smoochy normal shag way. As it turned out, none of these were in when I was there so I put into action my back up plan which was to see one of the ' Tuesday Bummers'. Quite easy to memorise the list, Claire, Cleo, Celine, Angelina, Alina ect. Of these only Celine was present though I must say that there was some excellent talent on show, Jenny and Eva spring to mind and I would have been delighted just to have normal sex with them.

Celine is 10/10 for physical condition. Lovely tightened body that must come from the Gym but very femimine and lovely and curvey below the waste with a fleshy arse. She had a fake tan that suited, no tattoes and a fine looker with long brown hair. Said she was German and would certainly pass for ethnic German and spoke English like Germans do and spoke about Germany very knowledgeably. I would guess she is around 25. I took a 40 min session and with the extras of bumming and kissing it came to E140. She dosen't French kiss but to be honest I'm surprised any of them do and sometimes think that none us should as how do we know how many sleazy characters kiss, have FO or God forbid have unprotected full sex with the likes of those skagheads who hang around on the Kurfurstenstrasse; then go into the good Bordellos with a dose of something.

Anyway after pleny of licking Celine all over her bod, then receiving a nice slow BJ, she lubed her butt and I bummed her as she lay on her side. A good session and of the gals I've seen at Liberty I'd only put Michelle and Kelly ahead of her, with the long gone Kate her equal. Did last see six foot Kate at another establishment approx 18 months but she'd gone freelance anyway but will be around somewhere, I'm sure.

Tea time flight back home tommorrow and may be tempted to finally try Rheinsberger 78 though it sounds quite a raw place with all the three brass's there evidently allowing clients to jizz in their face. Also have some touristy things to do so I'll decide at the time as fortunately I have four days mongering coming up in Cologne next month, followed by a week during December when I might be tempted to flyi nternally over to Berlin for a night as they often have cheap flights from Dusseldorf or Cologne. Failing that, God willing I'll be back in the capital in February.

So the 3rd of October is the German Unity Day and a public holiday in Germany. I know the yearly citizens festival ([I]Bürgerfest[/I]) will be in Bonn this year but how will it affect the mongering scene in Berlin? Will some apartment bordellos be closed? Will there be a lot of people going there and therefore a lot of waiting?

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph;1198990]So the 3rd of October is the German Unity Day and a public holiday in Germany. I know the yearly citizens festival ([I]Bürgerfest[/I]) will be in Bonn this year but how will it affect the mongering scene in Berlin? Will some apartment bordellos be closed? Will there be a lot of people going there and therefore a lot of waiting?[/QUOTE]Any bordello that is normally closed on a Sunday will likely be closed on this holiday. For all others it will be business as usual.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1198993]Any bordello that is normally closed on a Sunday will likely be closed on this holiday. For all others it will be business as usual.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks, Angus.

And I assume that you also by this comment mean that there will be a normal amount of business?

I am by the way considering sampling this place. [url]http://www.paris-no5.de/[/url]. No reports in the archives of ISG but any opinions out there on this place?

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph; 1199243]Thanks, Angus.

And I assume that you also by this comment mean that there will be a normal amount of business?

I am by the way considering sampling this place.

[url]http://www.paris-no5.de/[/url]

No reports in the archives of ISG but any opinions out there on this place?[/QUOTE]Sorry I can not say if they will be busy or not. As this is strictly a business holiday (by this I mean no religious / family commitments) I can imagine that it is a bit busier than a normal day. But this is just conjecture on my part.

I have not heard much about this place, Paris No. 5. But you do realize that it is a massage parlour and that it is doubtful that you will get anything more than a good hand job there?

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1199245]I have not heard much about this place, Paris No. 5. But you do realize that it is a massage parlour and that it is doubtful that you will get anything more than a good hand job there?

AM[/QUOTE]Yes. But sometimes I actually feel like going to one of those places where I don't have to perform but can be taken care of and cuddled for an hour or so. I often feel some sort of expectations (on my part. And probably all in my head) of a certain level of performance in a normal apartment bordello.

Last day of this current visit to the capital starting with some early morning touristy stuff visiting the Invalied Friedhoff Cemetry, following by covering Bernauer Strasse from the infamous Dynamo Berlin stadium right down to the wall relics near Nordbahnhof station. Interesting but grim so I decided I'd finally try Rheinsberger 78 and went in around 11. 15. You buzz the bell with ' Berger ' on, those large double wooden doors then unlock, and you walk through and go up the first flight of stairs on the immediate left to the door '78'.

Nadine let me in. She is probably in her 30's, thin, with a lived in face. Sara then came in and introduced herself to me. She is also thin, and has short dyed blnde hair as on the website. Steffi was the last to enter. She is new and is only just on the website now so I diden't recognise her. In hindsight she would of been more my type, having some curves on her. I ended up choosing Sara and selected BJ and cum in face at 50E for 30 mins. On the website it says Sara is 19.I'd guess she is perhaps 22. 23. She is Polish. During the BJ I was concerned that I'd mess things up by cumming so I asked could we go straight to the Gesichtbesamung. She went down on her knees, rubbed my cock around her mouth while wanking me and tickling my balls. I shot my load over her closed mouth, and chin, and some of the stuff was dripping off onto her leg. She then said there was time left and would I like a massage. I declined but asked for another glas of Cola which she brought to me.

To sum up. The set up is basic but they do offer you a bath or shower (which is over the bath) and the bathroom was clean. They seem keen on repeat custom and Sara looked a little nonplussed when I declined the massage and when I also said I diden't want the BJ without condom. For anyone wanting some dirty action for low price this is the type of place that probably suits. Another custoner had arrived soon after me and it dosen't cost alot to find out whether it is your kind of place. However, it's not really my type of place (Cologne's E80 being the only low price establishment that I feel comfortable with). The fact that two out of three of the girls were thin had me slightly concerned and I feel far more comfortable in the likes of Liberty with the curvyish, bright class acts that they seem to have aplenty, and which off course you pay for.

Hiya,

Just joining to give my 2 cents worth. I live in Berlin and found this place last year. Whilst most of the 'girls' (actually they're mainly grandma's) are pogs, one there, Mausi is not bad at all. They're up for anything including anal and FT which is cum in the mouth. It's worth the price. Not exactly central, but the area is now in one of the trendiest up and coming bar scenes, so you can have a few beers before and after. Check it out. [url]http://www.erlanger10.de/mausi.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Martinaway; 1199541]Hiya,

Just joining to give my 2 cents worth. I live in Berlin and found this place last year. Whilst most of the 'girls' (actually they're mainly grandma's) are pogs, one there, Mausi is not bad at all. They're up for anything including anal and FT which is cum in the mouth. It's worth the price. Not exactly central, but the area is now in one of the trendiest up and coming bar scenes, so you can have a few beers before and after. Check it out.

[url]http://www.erlanger10.de/mausi.html[/url][/QUOTE]They all look disgusting to me. There is no price so low that I could ever be tempted to partake of any of those mingers.

There are lots of great recommendations for cheap bordelles and escorts on this forum. May I respectfully suggest that you widen your horizons; this place you suggest looks like a really low-value option to me.

Best.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1199581]They all look disgusting to me. There is no price so low that I could ever be tempted to partake of any of those mingers.Charlie[/QUOTE]Agree w Charlie (as mostly always). Surely you can't be serious about this, given all the local talent, and I half think you're not. I hope you respect yourself more than this. They seem like stunt Fraus from Creature Features. Trendy bars nearby to get loaded so you would not notice? I would think a shooting gallery or crack den would be needed. There are markets I guess for such services and more power to them, but these are what is known in the wild west as Coyote Ugly, as explained here: [url]www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coyote ugly[/url]

While we may all be searchers, somethings are simply best left unknown.

Is she available for escorting?

There comes a time in the life of any successful establishment when it becomes a victim of its own popularity. We see the same pattern over and over again. It is a wonder that the managers of our modern-day institutions have never learnt to guard against it, but, having never studied history, they tend to see their enterprise at greatest advantage when it is in fact in greatest danger.

Think of a restaurant in London or a nightclub in New York which has built up an atmosphere of good taste and good fun over years of good management. At first it attracts a selective clientele, an aggregate of intelligent customers with the ability to sense quality. They tell their friends. Word spreads. One day a point comes when the club becomes the "in place" to be. The managers are delighted, then overwhelmed. The place is always full. Gradually the staff realize that whereas in former years they needed to be at their best to attract customers, now it doesn't really matter how they act: the place will always be full. As the waves of people come crashing in, the management finds itself compelled to turn away people: first with polite regret, then with impatience and even creeping arrogance. This arrogance does not deter the incoming herds: on the contrary, the weak-minded among them regard it as proof of the establishment's excellence, having no independent sense of quality.

Meanwhile the original customers notice a change in the atmosphere as the behaviour of the staff becomes adapted to the new clientele. The managers, being flush with money, have long learnt to embrace the new mood. There is less discretion and more emphasis on marketing. Prices are raised. Entry becomes a byzantine procedure of appointments and testing. To the management this is all proof of success, even as the customers who patronised the club in the beginning, the ones who spread the word, turn to each other, more in sorrow than in anger, and wonder why their old love seems now so unrecognizable.

Good reviews are just as plentiful as they were before: the only difference being that the new reviews are paid for, not written from the heart.

The day eventually comes the masses find a new "in-place". Everyone comes to their senses and wonders why they ever went to the club. There is nothing tangible to recommend it any more: the furnishings are worn, the staff contemptuous, the prices sky-high. The only people who wander in are "accidental" customers: tourists who have read some glowing recommendation in a guide book and are unaware of the place's real reputation. And the greatest tragedy is that there is no turning back. A new place can gradually improve itself to attract the public, but a club that has gained such a high opinion of itself never loses that opinion, and simply reacts with puzzlement and bitter denial to falling numbers of customers.

The same thing can happen to whole cities. To whole economies.

I am not suggesting that Kamilla la Dee has reached the end point of this sad, oft-repeated story. There are still many good women working there. What I have observed though is that the Grand Old Dame of the Berlin underworld has already passed the point of "peak sex," the point at which the smart money begins to look for fresher, hungrier bordellos. All I can hope for is that KD will heed this cautionary tale, and look to preserve its original principles and treat its remaining quality customers with respect.

The Germany vs. Thailand discussion in the Bangkok reports thread made me think about the encounters I've had with Thai girls in Berlin. Till 2009 I was a regular customer with two girls form Gera (Karlsgartenstrasse in Neukoelln,

[url]www.thaimodelle.de[/url]

) , both IMHO extremely pretty, in their mid-twenties and with great performances. Sadly Ray had to move back to Thailand in 2009 and the other one named Icy after moving through some other brothels left the business at the same time.

After that now and then there was a pretty one but mostly disappearing after a few week. When I think of the current situation I have very few suggestions:

[url]http://www.thaimassage-berlin-thasiaspa.de/[/url]

Thasia is a massage parlour with a legitimate front but all the girls I have tested there offer services that go beyond the usual handjob that is always included in the massage rate (60 EUR / h). For full sex (1 shot only) they ask between 50 and 60 EUR extra. Sometimes it took me 2-3 "normal" sessions (with handjob only) before being labelled as a regular customer and getting the full service. Out of the girls in the team picture I would recommend Khao (the one in the orange shirt) and Toon or Katoon (the one in the violet shirt). As you can see these girls (in their early or mid thirties) are no stunners but somehow pretty. Khao was eager to please while Toon was the cute all smiling one (but her tits are almost non-existent). Oh, and before I forget: the massage is quite good.

[url]http://www.linsmassage.de/[/url]

At Lin's massage (Siemensstrasse 74 in Berlin-Lankwitz) two girls in thier late twenties offer their services: Lilly and Dao. While both have not really perfect bodies (Lilly's legs are a bit too wide IMHO and Dao had some pregnancy marks) they have nice personalities (especially Lilly who can also speak German well) , give professional massage and for an extra fee they offer nice BBBJ sometimes with CIM. Standard massage rate is 50 EUR / h and expect a tip 30-40 for blowjob. As mostly with Thai massage parlours sometimes it may take 1 or 2 sessions before they give you the anticipated BBBJ.

[url]http://www.dasblauehaus.rotlichtmodelle.de/home.php[/url]

Das Blaue Haus in Berlin Weissensee does not try to act like a legitimate MP, it is a brothel through and through. Two years ago I had a nice session with Gung who had a almost perfect body allthough she must be somehow in her thirties. Last two or three times I have been with new recruit Tisha (maybe mid twenties). She looks very young, is tiny and very slim but with nice curves. I paid 100 EUR to spend one hour with her. She did a lot of kissing and cuddling and her pussy became very wet. The fuck itself was only so and so since I couldn't hold on very long (she's very tight). For an uncoverd blowjob Tisha asks for 20 EUR extra. I would rate her the prettiest P4P Thai now in Berlin.

[url]http://www.krabbe.rotlichtmodelle.de/home.html[/url]

2 or 3 years ago Krabbe in Prenzlauer Berg had the best assortment of good looking asian girls but they are in decline.

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1202203]. Etc.

All I can hope for is that KD will heed this cautionary tale, and look to preserve its original principles and treat its remaining quality customers with respect.[/QUOTE]Hello,

If I understand well, you were not well treated by KD? Can you describe what had happened?

Personnally, I find that KD is very courteous, respectful and nice with me contrary to Nyloncafe in Koln / Cologne!

So I visited Liberty yesterday and had a less than mediocre meeting with Ina from Latvia. I should have followed my first thought and left after a boring line up but sometimes you just don't do what you're supposed to. The blow job was nothing to write about. She would not let me lick her breasts or touch her pussy. And she did not touch anything else but my cock. Loads of lube and hence not that much friction. A waste of money.

A relatively new girl:

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/penny.htm[/url]

Met her today shortly after KD opened. Short line up with only three girls but Penny was there and I was happy about that, since her pictures are very sexy. Especially the one taken from behind where she covers her private parts with one hand.

Great attitude and even though she's not that talkative we spend a really nice hour together. Or thats what I payed for (see lack of service at the end of this report).

Her body is IMHO really great (even though a bit skinny) with loooong legs (1. 07 meters, she told me) that looked even longer because of the knee long socks she was wearing through the entire session, small responsive breasts and a nice smile that she uses for some engaging deep kissing. She was naturally quite wet all through the session that started with some DATY (and wow! What a pair of lips she's got down there.) , then a BJ for me, she got on top and fingered herself until I came the first time. We chatted some and started kissing, then some sucking on her breasts and some condom problems before I entered in missionary where she again was touching herself and really focused on also getting the visual side of the experience (she didn't kiss during this but was looking at my penis entering her pussy. Then some doggy but she stopped me and complained about my size and how she was getting sore. A bit of a turn off and quite a limitation of my session possibilities. We kissed some more which helped on my mood and then some BJ before she finished me off with a HJ.

Lacking in service: I had to walk to and from the shower naked twice because there was no cloak in the room. And when she was giving me a HJ she had to leave the room to get some oil. And the hour was cut short by around 10 minutes. And we got a really small (and very hot) room at the end of the corridor to the right even though you usually get the bigger room when staying for an hour. And I actually felt rushed out of the door by her so she could get on to the next customer.

Would I repeat? Well I guess so. Not at least because she seemed really into it. But next time I'll just take 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph;1203206]And when she was giving me a HJ she had to leave the room to get some oil. And the hour was cut short by around 10 minutes.[/QUOTE]That's been my experience as well. At Monrouge, it was a lot of "ooh" and "my goodness","I have to fetch the large condom!" (which is bs, of course). That took 10 min. Then she had to warm the massage oil, which took another 10 min. The first few times I visited Kamilla D, January this year, there was nothing like that.

Maybe it's a new trend. LOL.

C.

I have to wonder why you guys are booking untested talent for the hour. As far as I can see the way to go is to book her for half an hour. If you hit it off, and can tell she is not going to pull and tricks, then you can try to extend the session. I personally can usually tell within 5 minutes if the girl is worth the extra expenditure. If not, just finish up and go home and write your report. This is what the shorter sessions are for is it not?

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1203426]I have to wonder why you guys are booking untested talent for the hour. (...) I personally can usually tell within 5 minutes if the girl is worth the extra expenditure.[/QUOTE]Well. I actually booked her for half an hour at first. And then I told her (a mistake?) that I might extend the session if things went well. And that made her look weird at me and say "What do you mean?". Like that never happened to her. Then she walked with me to the room. Once there we chatted a bit before my shower. And she was so charming (the legs!) and I felt the vibe was good so at that moment I told her I would stay for one hour.

If I book half an hour I'll usually (if I have the money) use just a tiny part of my brain on thinking if I should extend the session or not. And that takes some of the joy of it away.

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph;1203548].etc .And she was so charming (the legs!) and I felt the vibe was good so at that moment I told her I would stay for one hour.[/QUOTE]I agree with Angus' recommandation; however, more than once I did not apply this recommandation to myself.

I "met" Penny in the parade but she was fully booked so I did not meet her in room yet : I understand that her figure and her (playful) smile could prevent you (and me) from implementing this recommandation.

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph;1203548]If I book half an hour I'll usually (if I have the money) use just a tiny part of my brain on thinking if I should extend the session or not. And that takes some of the joy of it away.[/QUOTE]Don't think about the time : in general, the lady will do that!

So when she warns you that the meeting is going to finish you will make your own decision according to your feelings at this moment.

However, there is a risk : she already had an appointment after your meeting and so any extension would be impossible.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;1203579]I agree with Angus' recommandation; however, more than once I did not apply this recommandation to myself.[/QUOTE]I also do not always follow my own recommendation. If I feel in my gut that the lady will be a good session I would go for the longer session. Mistakes happen but in general I agree that in a place like KD you can indeed let the lady look after the time. I have been short changed on time but not very often and never at KD. In fact more often than not I have gone over a few minutes.

AM

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1203579]

Etc.

Don't think about the time : in general, the lady will do that!

So when she warns you that the meeting is going to finish you will make your own decision according to your feelings at this moment.

Etc.[/QUOTE]If you don't have no much "cash" (I'm remembering Charlie checking his banknotes in the street!) with you (that's a pity that we can not use credit cards in KD) , remember that, in KD, after the first 30 minutes, you can ask for extension of 15 minutes (40 Euros).

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1203594](.) in general I agree that in a place like KD you can indeed let the lady look after the time. I have been short changed on time but not very often and never at KD. In fact more often than not I have gone over a few minutes.[/QUOTE]I have gone over time at KD a couple of times as well. But maybe my problem also is that I usually always want to come at least twice during a session. And that takes a bit more planning during the half hour session than if I book one hour. So I can never really let mind let go of the time I have left of the session. It has nothing to do with me not trusting the girls but I am somewhat a control freak.

Another question. I think I have read in the FKK thread that booking half an hour and mentioning that you might extend the session can have a positive effect on the session. Does this also account for a session at an apartment bordello?

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph;1203823]Another question. I think I have read in the FKK thread that booking half an hour and mentioning that you might extend the session can have a positive effect on the session. Does this also account for a session at an apartment bordello?[/QUOTE]I dunno. I personally think that you are on shaky ground in Artemis or an apartment if you are telling girls you [b]might[/b] Extend if things go well. They are not stupid (well some are) and I am sure they hear lots of promises and know when you are playing them. I find that what works is to be definite in what ever you do. That is, if things are going well in the first 10 or so minutes tell her that you do want to extend-will that be a problem? But say it enthusiastically, letting her know how much you are into her. This will up the level of service if anything will.

Stringing her along on the promise of a longer session will just as likely back fire and have to opposite to your desired effect.

AM

I think this report should be in the Berlin section as well.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1101-Other-Partytreffs[/url]

Cheers,

Felix

[QUOTE=Felix Nordic; 1203860]I think this report should be in the Berlin section as well.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1101-Other-Partytreffs[/url]

Cheers,

Felix[/QUOTE]Good report Felix. And I have to tip my hat to you. 9 sessions in one visit? Impressive. I thought I was doing well with 5.

You certainly git your monies worth.

AM

A terrific report by Felix. A most valuable piece of research on an establishment that many of us had written off some time ago. I have entered it into the 'Reports of Distinction' section.

Thanks Felix. Great work!

Best.

Charlie

Indeed- the Caligula report is an eye-opener. Especially that little bare-back riding bit.

For single guys, who rolling the dice and / or are "careful" with their partners, this is one thing. For husbands and steady relationshippers, this is a wake up call. Of course it does goes on. And there is even some forum chatter about it eg Wanking and his crew, etc. Where it is vaguely sanctioned, there is a kind of testing procedure involved (if one is to believe it-not sure it's so valid given the minimal 3 month incubation times, etc.). But that it was so easily done at Caligula, I find a bit disturbing, especially as it is a spread it around kind of place. Good to have the intel and get this out in the open.

Felix, I know this will come as a huge shock (ha ha), but you are probably not the first bare boy in there. You might consider, especially if you are in a relationship or go bareback with others, to have the test after 3 mos (and really you ought to not go bareback with anyone until you do). Choices choices....It is one thing to play with fire on one´s own - but if others are involved, who do not realize what is going on, that really changes things.
I say this from personal experience when a condom broke, and I spent an awful few months waiting for the all clear test results.

Hi all!

My first post here, so if my post is not according to forum etiquette, please let me know.

I've been reading up on this forum as I am soon going to Berlin for a couple of days and I would first of all like to tip my hat to the contributors of this forum. Your post are invaluable for the relatively speaking uninitiated.

I'll be in Berlin in a week's time and if I find the time I am planning to make an appointment with one of the gils at Klein und zierlich, after having read good reviews from Skagen and Charlie123 and, as far as I can remember, Angus Magee also gives the agency favorable mentions (also on his excellent website).

I have a question regarding this agency, that might be a silly one, considering this is an English-speaking forum. But better to ask those more knowledgeable than to dwell in the shadows on unenlightenment.

Do the girls speak English? I have a fairly good knowledge of German, but I would prefer to converse in English.

I have read the reports on KZ girls here in this forum, and as far as I can remember there has been no mention of whether or not they speak English or not. Maybe that's just implicit. That a Romanian girls such as Ramona will have basic English skills. But I don't know. Hence the question. As far as I can see, there is no mention of languages spoken on their website either.

I plan on making appointment with Ramona, if possible and provided she is still on their site after their vacation. If some other girl has been added to their site I might switch my preference, but time will undoubtedly tell.

Also, in terms of booking the girls; should one make a reservation days in advance or is that not really necessary?

Any help is of course greatly appreciated and if I do find time to meet one of the girls I'll be sure to post a report here.

My plans for my trip are not yet cast in stone, as they say. So if time permits, I would like to visit a bordello as well. Probably Royal, Liberty or KLD as these seem to get good reviews.

Thanks in advance.

Corin

Considering that I've just asked a question in the forum, it seems only fair that I also post a report.

This is my first report, so bear with me.

I went to Aphrodite Massage in late June and met with a girl named Katia

[url]http://www.aphrodite-massagen.de/galery_14.php[/url]

Had some slight problems making an appointment, due to some communication failure, both on my part and the girl I talked to on the phone. I assumed German would be best – it turned out that English would have been better. At least with the girl I spoke to. I should mention that German is my third language, English being my second. I speak German fairly well, but should have asked if the girl spoke English.

When I arrived, Katia opened the door and I led me into a room, I was offered a drink, and when she returned with ut we «negotiated» for a bit. There is not much to negotiate about, as massage and HJ is basically what they offer. And greek massage, which is not really my thing, anyway. She said up front that sex or BJ is not on offer, which I was aware of anyway. We agreed on a 45 min session that set me back €80. Was offered a shower that she urged me to take, as I was probably a bit sweaty, it being late June and all. I obviously went. Nice, clean bath, by the way.

When I returned, I waited on the bed for a bit and Katia returned wrapped in a towel or a robe (I can't rememer). She put on some light, calming music and lit some candles and undressed. She looked stunning to me. I might add that her pictures on the site are accurate, although I found her more compelling and attractive in the flesh.

First, I was given a good back-massage, using lots of oils. Good amount of B2B as well. I loved the sensation of her reasonably large tits stroking my back. My legs were also the focus of her attention, and every now and then she made sure to to just slightly touch my balls, sort of hinting at what was to come – which I found arousing. The massage itself was good, but not excellent if compared to professional massages (you know, the ones without any erotic content). I was asked if I wanted a greek massage as well, as that was part of the 45 minute-package. I politely declined.

During the course of the massage we spoke quite a bit (after having decided that German was a third language for the both us, and ended up in English) , and she was pleasant and smart and made me feel very comfortable. We found a good rapport, for lack of better words.

After some time, probably 20-25 minutes or so, I was asked to turn over. She then massaged my breast for a bit, then slowly progressing downwards, just slighly hinting again at what was to to come. She massaged my legs and thighs for a bit as well, and every now and then she would «accidentally» touch my balls and / or cock. After a bit she started again with the body-to-body, giving me a kind of spanish, as it were.

Then, she switched positions, as if we were 69'ing. Great view, to say the least. She proceeded to give me a wonderful HJ using lots of oil, that she, in my humble opinion, did very well. After some time, she switched positions again, so that I could see her beautiful face instead of her wonderful ass. This was by no means a rushed HJ, and I was literally squirming at some point. She seemed to enjoy that, smiling expertly at me.

As this is a place where BJ is not offered, she kind of teased me a bit asking things like «wouldn't you have like me to give you a BJ now? » and started mimicking giving me a BJ. It was in way frustrating, as I at that point really wanted her to give me a BJ, and at the same time it was even more arousing. I don't know – maybe I could have persuaded her to give me one for extra payment, but I chose not to push in that direction. I was having a nice time as it was, to say the least. She was, as I remember it, keenly observant and made sure I did not come several times, adjusting the tempo and so on, smiling at me while I was struggling to hold back. After some time, she finally «let» me come, and I had an explosive orgasm.

After I came, she lay down with me and we chatted for a bit, until it was time for me to take another shower just across the hall from the room. When I returned, she came in after a while and kissed me good bye.

By all means, €80 for a 45 minutes massage is expensive compared to the service you can get at a brothel. However, I was pretty stressed out at the time, and I was looking for a massage as well as some kind of «sexual encounter». I was given both, and I was happy with it and enjoyed the experience.

Would I return? Yes, provided that I lived in Berlin. As I am rarely in Berlin, I choose to venture elsewhere, in search of other experiences.

[QUOTE=Corinthian; 1204698]Considering that I've just asked a question in the forum, it seems only fair that I also post a report.

This is my first report, so bear with me.

I went to Aphrodite Massage in late June and met with a girl named Katia.

[url]http://www.aphrodite-massagen.de/galery_14.php[/url]

Had some slight problems making an appointment, due to some communication failure, both on my part and the girl I talked to on the phone. I assumed German would be best – it turned out that English would have been better. At least with the girl I spoke to. I should mention that German is my third language, English being my second. I speak German fairly well, but should have asked if the girl spoke English.

When I arrived, Katia opened the door and I led me into a room, I was offered a drink, and when she returned with ut we «negotiated» for a bit. There is not much to negotiate about, as massage and HJ is basically what they offer. And greek massage, which is not really my thing, anyway. She said up front that sex or BJ is not on offer, which I was aware of anyway. We agreed on a 45 min session that set me back €80. Was offered a shower that she urged me to take, as I was probably a bit sweaty, it being late June and all. I obviously went. Nice, clean bath, by the way.

When I returned, I waited on the bed for a bit and Katia returned wrapped in a towel or a robe (I can't rememer). She put on some light, calming music and lit some candles and undressed. She looked stunning to me. I might add that her pictures on the site are accurate, although I found her more compelling and attractive in the flesh.

First, I was given a good back-massage, using lots of oils. Good amount of B2B as well. I loved the sensation of her reasonably large tits stroking my back. My legs were also the focus of her attention, and every now and then she made sure to to just slightly touch my balls, sort of hinting at what was to come – which I found arousing. The massage itself was good, but not excellent if compared to professional massages (you know, the ones without any erotic content). I was asked if I wanted a greek massage as well, as that was part of the 45 minute-package. I politely declined.

During the course of the massage we spoke quite a bit (after having decided that German was a third language for the both us, and ended up in English) , and she was pleasant and smart and made me feel very comfortable. We found a good rapport, for lack of better words.

After some time, probably 20-25 minutes or so, I was asked to turn over. She then massaged my breast for a bit, then slowly progressing downwards, just slighly hinting again at what was to to come. She massaged my legs and thighs for a bit as well, and every now and then she would «accidentally» touch my balls and / or cock. After a bit she started again with the body-to-body, giving me a kind of spanish, as it were.

Then, she switched positions, as if we were 69'ing. Great view, to say the least. She proceeded to give me a wonderful HJ using lots of oil, that she, in my humble opinion, did very well. After some time, she switched positions again, so that I could see her beautiful face instead of her wonderful ass. This was by no means a rushed HJ, and I was literally squirming at some point. She seemed to enjoy that, smiling expertly at me.

As this is a place where BJ is not offered, she kind of teased me a bit asking things like «wouldn't you have like me to give you a BJ now? » and started mimicking giving me a BJ. It was in way frustrating, as I at that point really wanted her to give me a BJ, and at the same time it was even more arousing. I don't know – maybe I could have persuaded her to give me one for extra payment, but I chose not to push in that direction. I was having a nice time as it was, to say the least. She was, as I remember it, keenly observant and made sure I did not come several times, adjusting the tempo and so on, smiling at me while I was struggling to hold back. After some time, she finally «let» me come, and I had an explosive orgasm.

After I came, she lay down with me and we chatted for a bit, until it was time for me to take another shower just across the hall from the room. When I returned, she came in after a while and kissed me good bye.

By all means, €80 for a 45 minutes massage is expensive compared to the service you can get at a brothel. However, I was pretty stressed out at the time, and I was looking for a massage as well as some kind of «sexual encounter». I was given both, and I was happy with it and enjoyed the experience.

Would I return? Yes, provided that I lived in Berlin. As I am rarely in Berlin, I choose to venture elsewhere, in search of other experiences.[/QUOTE]I've experienced that the Thai places in town can provide the same services but with a really good massage also, although they may not be as hot as this lady to look at.

[QUOTE=Corinthian; 1204684]

Do the girls speak English? I have a fairly good knowledge of German, but I would prefer to converse in English.[/QUOTE]


Maybe Charlie will sign in with Ramona's language skills but generally Romanian girls will speak at least a little bit of English. In fact they usually, unless they have been here for a while in Germany, speak better English than German. This skill level will range from just enough to negotiate the session to conversational. As long as the conversation is not about early 18th century philosophy or any thing similar.

[QUOTE=Corinthian; 1204684]Also, in terms of booking the girls; should one make a reservation days in advance or is that not really necessary?[/QUOTE]

As for pre booking-I would not pre book unless you want a longer session (multiple hours) and are really set on a specific girl for this. For normal hour sessions I would call in the early evening and leave it at that. I mean the way these agencies run booking too far in advance is likely not going to guarantee you any thing anyway. As I mention in my blog, the best way as far as I am concerned is to try to do the session as early in the evening as possible. These girls work hard and if you set something up for mid night chances are she has seen 3-4 customers already that day. These numbers mean that the quality of service has to suffer in my experience. Try to be first or second for the day and you have a far greater chance of getting the girl at her best.

AM

Thanks a lot for your reply, Sir. Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1204948]As long as the conversation is not about early 18th century philosophy or any thing similar.

AM[/QUOTE]No, I tend to focus on the finer points of Aristotelian logic and epistemology myself.

Corin

Hi guys,

Heading to germany for 2 weeks on wed. I hope this isint a strange request but it seems that every time I post about it I get no response. Am I the only guy in the world that like this? LOL.

Looking for fkk girls that have very large pussy lips. Inner labia.

Any suggestions would be great!

Jimmy

Hi guys,

Heading to germany for 2 weeks on wed. I hope this isint a strange request but it seems that every time I post about it I get no response. Am I the only guy in the world that like this? LOL.

Looking for fkk girls that have very large pussy lips. Inner labia.

Any suggestions would be great!

Jimmy.

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph; 1203206]A relatively new girl:

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/penny.htm[/url]

Met her today shortly after KD opened. Short line up with only three girls but Penny was there and I was happy about that, since her pictures are very sexy. Especially the one taken from behind where she covers her private parts with one hand.

Great attitude and even though she's not that talkative we spend a really nice hour together. Or thats what I payed for (see lack of service at the end of this report).

Her body is IMHO really great (even though a bit skinny) with loooong legs (1. 07 meters, she told me) that looked even longer because of the knee long socks she was wearing through the entire session, small responsive breasts and a nice smile that she uses for some engaging deep kissing. She was naturally quite wet all through the session that started with some DATY (and wow! What a pair of lips she's got down there.) , then a BJ for me, she got on top and fingered herself until I came the first time. We chatted some and started kissing, then some sucking on her breasts and some condom problems before I entered in missionary where she again was touching herself and really focused on also getting the visual side of the experience (she didn't kiss during this but was looking at my penis entering her pussy. Then some doggy but she stopped me and complained about my size and how she was getting sore. A bit of a turn off and quite a limitation of my session possibilities. We kissed some more which helped on my mood and then some BJ before she finished me off with a HJ.

Lacking in service: I had to walk to and from the shower naked twice because there was no cloak in the room. And when she was giving me a HJ she had to leave the room to get some oil. And the hour was cut short by around 10 minutes. And we got a really small (and very hot) room at the end of the corridor to the right even though you usually get the bigger room when staying for an hour. And I actually felt rushed out of the door by her so she could get on to the next customer.

Would I repeat? Well I guess so. Not at least because she seemed really into it. But next time I'll just take 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimmyVegas; 1205142]I hope this isint a strange request but it seems that every time I post about it I get no response. Am I the only guy in the world that like this? LOL.

Looking for fkk girls that have very large pussy lips. Inner labia. Any suggestions would be great! Jimmy.[/QUOTE]Jimmy-Strange request? Here? Strange is what we do.

First. A minor point, when you say "FKK girls", assume you mean Ho's, or 'Tutes, regardless of where they work. This is not an FKK forum, like the FKK Artemis thread (ISG num 2588). In Germany FKKs are large or medium sized clubs like Artemis, Palace, Oase, etc. For your quest, I imagine the venue is not so important. But, I really can't think of any standout big-lipped babes anywhere in Berlin, though I am sure they exist, sorry. Occasionally Angus and I swim in the Europa Center Thermal bath, and some of the 80 yr olds we see surely have what you seek, I betcha. You could try chatting them up?

So, admittedly not much help. But doing some research, you are not alone:

[url]http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=198367[/url] And but I guess you know all this, there are the helpful:
[url]http://www.sexylabia.com/index.html[/url]

And not to be missed for the do-it-yourself crowd: [url]http://www.labiastretching.com/[/url]

What you could do is turn up to bordellos or Artemis and perhaps discretely show some photos, printed from sites like this, and just ask if anyone fits the bill:

[url]http://www.locateadoc.com/pictures/cosmetic-surgery/labiaplasty.html[/url] or [url]http://www.labiaplastycenters.com/before_and_after_photos.htm[/url]

There are some serious cases here-almost like the flying squirrel jump suits worn by extreme sports types. This also demonstrates why the Interweb is such a useful invention.
You might try ringing Tiffany's [url]www.Ritter11.de[/url] or some of the other well known bordellos here (KD, van Kampen etc) and just ask. Not sure the receptionists and Hausmuttis know such intimate details, but at least it would make for some good stories afterwards. Just remember the old WWII warning: loose lips sink ships. Let us know what you discover.

Hey guys, I have the feeling that lately the forum has been infected by a lot of trolls or in general people asking stupid questions or making stupid comments.

This probably causes many suspects also on people that make weird questions while being totally in good faith.

Won't loose my sleep on this and maybe I perceive this only because of my not really fluent english.

It just looks like things are changed a bit around here lately.

What you think?

Kimino

While I can vouch for neither personally both these girls are given honorable mention for their labia minora.

[url]http://www.anett-modelle.de/html/body_angie.html[/url]

[url]http://www.monas-roses.de/mia.html[/url]

A report on either of these girls would be most welcomed.

I used to enjoy the company of a certain Roberta at Artemis. Unfortunately she had breast surgery and at the same time had her wings clipped.:(

What are they thinking these girls? Now she had a nice pair.

AM

I used the Kauf Mich site to pull three escorts to my hotel. While I had to weed thru quite a few conversations with others and a lot of non-responses, I was happy with the three I got. My reviews are on that site under the same name. I wasn't looking for beauties, I was looking for girls that would accept fisting and anal. Mostly worked out. Had some good fun.

[QUOTE=Corinthian; 1204956]Thanks a lot for your reply, Sir. Much appreciated.

No, I tend to focus on the finer points of Aristotelian logic and epistemology myself.

Corin[/QUOTE]Ophelia seems to enjoy philosophical discussions.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/ophelia.htm[/url]

LOL

Corinthian.

Angus is correct. Most of the KZ gilrs, like a lot of newly-arrived Eastern Europeans, speak much better English than German. I speak both languages, so I am not always able to recall accuratelt in which tongue I conversed with the girls, but as far as I can remember all of the current incumbents at KZ speak very good English and wenig Deutsch.

With regard to booking, I have always tried to book girls from KZ as the first appointment of the day, namely 4pm. I prefer them when they're fresh, and these girls tend to turn a good number of tricks and thus get somewhat worn out as the evening progresses. To book my spot, I phone in the day before to secure my reservation and then call on the day once again to confirm. The guy who handles the arrangements switches on his phone at 3pm every day and is pretty reliable. The second advantage of securing the first appointment is that you avoid the risk of the girl being delayed should your predecessor decide to extend his session.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have further questions.

Charlie

I'm back in Berlin on the 26th of December through Jan 1st. How is the scene at this time of year? I'm sure many of the young ladies travel home to be with their families at this time, but I'm still expecting plenty of selection. Christmas day itself seems to be the day to close right? I know Artemis is closed this day. Do the establishments keep a certain amount of girls on even at this time?

Report of my last trip almost finished.

Cheers

I was reading on the German lustscout site about.

[url]http://ginas-tango-rosa.de/[/url]

Any info or insights

[QUOTE=Diet Coke;1205862]Any info or insights[/QUOTE]Nothing really current and thus no hard facts. But I did visit Gina's some tears back when I was first exploring the Berlin apartment scene. I found it to be a nice but non descriptor place, typical of many of the smaller Berlin bordellos. Prices are not bad and the selection of ladies reasonable. On the down side it has always been (for me) a bit out of the way and thus one needs to have a lady in mind before going there. That is it is not a good "drop by and see what is available" bordello. I might also add thought that Mona Roses (76 Hindenburgdamm) is less than 5 minutes away so if you strike out at Gina's one can always give Mona's a try.

AM

[QUOTE=Rainmadra; 1205767]I'm back in Berlin on the 26th of December through Jan 1st. How is the scene at this time of year? I'm sure many of the young ladies travel home to be with their families at this time, but I'm still expecting plenty of selection. Christmas day itself seems to be the day to close right? I know Artemis is closed this day. Do the establishments keep a certain amount of girls on even at this time?

Report of my last trip almost finished.

Cheers[/QUOTE]The week between Christmas & New Year you will find things a little slow, less selection than is normal and generally quiet. However, some bordellos are open even on Christmas day. German's celebrate Christmas more on the evening of the 25th. Most businesses are closed on the 25th but the bordellos seem to find that there are punters looking for a Christmas day lay and thus open their door. I can not really speak for the actual selection (I imagine it is not top girls working) I am sure you can find someone to suit your tastes. If you look on the various websites closer to Christmas those that are open will say so.

As for Artemis you can look on my blog for those opening hours in the Artemis guide.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=690[/url]

Again, selection in this time is limited but there are girls working. Personally I have, for the past 3 or so years, always paid a visit in this time and always been satisfied with who I found. In my experience this time of year is actually better for finding the GFE as the girls that work are a little more relaxed about things and one can more likely find a girl who just wants to chat and tease a long time before retiring to the rooms.

AM

Hi folks!

There is a long time since I have posted a report. I have been in Berlin many times since then. I have read most of your reports though. Right now I'm in Berlin. This is my last night here. I've been here for a week. I will give you several reports in a while, but let's talk about Paris No. 5. Which really is in Pariserstrasse 3.

[url]www.paris-no5.de/[/url]

If I remember right, somebody asked for reports from Paris No. 5. Nobody had one. I was there tonight. This is not a brothel. I booked a bath then a tantramassage. I booked with Silvia, a nice girl on a couple of twenty years. Slim body, half long dark hair, shaved, little small tits but fantastic fine.

[url]http://www.paris-no5.de/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=25:silvia&Itemid=4[/url]

Normal time is one hour. But I choose 1h 15min. She said the bath would take about 30min. So I (we) must have som time left to the massage. In the jacuzzy, she touched me everywhere, and I could touch her everywhere. And I mean everwhere even inside. Even kissing (mouth). I didn't look on the watch but I think we used at least 30 min, maybe 40. Then we showered together, shower in the room. Then a massage what they call tantra (not like Kashima-I will be back with a report from Kashime later). That means body to body. First on my back, then the other side. Fantastic. Looked like I could do everything, but I didn't try GW. At the end, handentspannung. And after then she stroke me for a while. A quick shower, and we talked some minutes. When I got out, we had used 90min.

S

[QUOTE=Siggy;1206426]When I got out, we had used 90min.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the informative report. It sounds like a good place and that you got some value. I am kind of wondering exactly how much you paid for the session?

AM

For one hour including jacuzzi I paid 120 euro. As I wrote I extended it to 1h15min. Totally I paid 145 euro. And it was worth it. AM.

S

And I forgot: I would shure come back.

S

[QUOTE=Siggy;1206426]If I remember right, somebody asked for reports from Paris No. 5. Nobody had one.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, Siggy. That was me asking and now I regret I didn't go there when I was in Berlin last week. But there will be a next time.

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph;1206638]Thanks for the report, Siggy. That was me asking and now I regret I didn't go there when I was in Berlin last week. But there will be a next time.[/QUOTE]Try this place next time. Or anobody else and give a report.

A quick update: as of 16. 10. 2011, Odette remains the best bordello in Berlin. If you want to "make the most of your experience" as the euphemism goes, you should speak German and put on your best impression of a rich politician with perverse tastes, the more unusual the better. Also, though expensive it is located in a somewhat dodgy area (Moabit) so remember to bring along a couple of your bodyguards / procurers / etc.

I am in Germany now. Looking for girls with very large inner labia. Inner pussy lips. Any names and locations would be great.

Thanks guys!

Jv

[QUOTE=JimmyVegas; 1206957]I am in Germany now. Looking for girls with very large inner labia. Inner pussy lips. Any names and locations would be great.

Thanks guys!

Jv[/QUOTE]I think that you can ask directly the different bordellos too (email or, as you are in Berlin, phone)!

[QUOTE=JimmyVegas; 1206957]I am in Germany now. Looking for girls with very large inner labia. Inner pussy lips. Any names and locations would be great.

Thanks guys!

Jv[/QUOTE]All due respect Jimmy (and you know I have also answered you privately so I think I have responded as best I can) but of your 15 posts so far. 15 have been questions. 14 of them about big pussy lips.

Here is a suggestion-instead of just constantly taking how about writing up some of your experiences so far and giving a little back to the forum. It is not just about taking what you can get you know. Maybe you are planning to write it all up later. But personally until that happens I am no longer willing to answer these constant questions about labia-here or in pm.

AM

Ohhh. I will be writing. I've only been in europe for 3 days. My first time.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1207050]All due respect Jimmy (and you know I have also answered you privately so I think I have responded as best I can) but of your 15 posts so far. 15 have been questions. 14 of them about big pussy lips.

Here is a suggestion-instead of just constantly taking how about writing up some of your experiences so far and giving a little back to the forum. It is not just about taking what you can get you know. Maybe you are planning to write it all up later. But personally until that happens I am no longer willing to answer these constant questions about labia-here or in pm.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1205450]Corinthian.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have further questions.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Indeed it does, Charlie.

Many thanks for your kind reply. I am much obliged.

I am wondering if the girls work weekends or not, but I'll find out soon enough. I'll give the agency a call one of the coming days.

Thanks again, Charlie and Angus.

Oh, and by the way. I hope you were not referring to me in your post about "trolls" in the forum, Kimino?

I did ask some questions and made a slight pun. But I hope you don't consider that "trolling"?

Corinthian

[QUOTE=Corinthian; 1207102]Indeed it does, Charlie.

Many thanks for your kind reply. I am much obliged.

I am wondering if the girls work weekends or not, but I'll find out soon enough. I'll give the agency a call one of the coming days.

Thanks again, Charlie and Angus.

Oh, and by the way. I hope you were not referring to me in your post about "trolls" in the forum, Kimino?

I did ask some questions and made a slight pun. But I hope you don't consider that "trolling"?

Corinthian[/QUOTE]No-trolling is trolling and it is not generally that easy to define. In any case you are kust asking questions, hopefully to be followed up with a report or two. Nothing wrong with asking questions unless I am feeling a wee ornery (as with Jimmy last night-sorry Jimmy) and then you get a reminder.

And yes the KZ girls (almost any low range agency girl) will work 7 days per week.

AM

[QUOTE=Corinthian; 1207102].

Oh, and by the way. I hope you were not referring to me in your post about "trolls" in the forum, Kimino?

I did ask some questions and made a slight pun. But I hope you don't consider that "trolling"?

Corinthian[/QUOTE]No, that wasn't for you! Really.

And BTW, I should probably have retained from making that general comment. I'm usually more on the "if you don't like it, don't read it" side of things.

Best.

Kimino

Been a while, but here goes again.

I was back in Berlin in September for about five days of good times. Wine women and song. The spice of life eh?

Anyhow, to business. First of all.

Bei Tomsen.

We all know where it is and if you don't it's just a matter of checking out previous posts on this forum or indeed their website. I have to say Bei Tomsen is a great favourite of mine. Nothing fancy, quite small. Actually very small in some rooms, more of that anon. But good clean wholesome fun for the right price! The reason I like this puffhouse is I guess consistency. Consistency of price, service, welcome, basically experience. For the price of €50 half hour it's great value. It's not KD. Royal or VK as regards looks of the girls or the quality of the establishment itself. But price wise it's hard to beat. I always leave here content. Attitude, of the right sort, something we all treasure is always good here in my experience. We've all had the optifuck who turned out to have a poor attitude and as a result poor service. Not worth it (but we still gamble) and leaves you cheated.

So with funds low at these times of austerity I was looking to spend a lot of my erotic time at a reliable place and BT did not disappoint.

Nataly Latvia.

I had been with this nice lady before and always had a good time. A good intimate GFE. DFK. Lots of DATY and plenty of positions. Quiet girl, but not uncomfortable with it. Popular so book ahead.

Carla Panama.

Great girl. Warm and friendly and eager to please. No English. Loves DATY and having her hole licked. No kissing though but good fun.

Leonie Latvia.

Like Nataly normally booked when I was there. Great body, cute girl, great ass. Quiet at the start but after the deed was done had a good chat. Nice girl. Comes and goes between home every few months.

Zena

Also from Latvia. Not sure if she is still there. She talked of going home. A few extra pounds due to kids, but good fun. Likes DFK and loves sitting on your face.

Luiza Bulgaria.

Even with this girl it turned out ok. I think if you met this girl in another club she wouldn't perform maybe. When we met she was the only one available. So I said fuck it go on. From the start I thought Oh oh, as she was all baby this baby that (kinda fake) no kissing but I warmed to her. She held the condom in place during doggy which is annoying of course, but only then. She really got into when she rode me cowgirl and bit my ear and neck. Great. She loves DATY. Kept grabbing my head back and shoving it in. Still wouldn't repeat if there's choice.

Alexa.

Can't remember where from. Think Latvia too. Went for evening session after few beers. Friendly sexy little thing. Spent most of the time on 69 and finished that way. Don't think I was even in her. Next time!

There's a few new faces that I'll try on my next visit. Haven't tried Helen yet. All the above were 30 min sessions. €50. No extras, which are available. I just tried to keep my costs as low as possible. Always made feel welcome from the hausmuttis. They even hid me in among the coats while I almost collided with another punter about to exit. Even that was enjoyable as some of the kinky uniforms were hanging there beside the girls' safes and packets of instant noodles. Rooms are tiny as mentioned before, Room on right as you come in is just a box. But Carla said that's just a room girls wait in or rest, makes sense as it would be like trying to bang in a phone box. Tried that as a teenager unsuccessfully. Those days are over thankfully.

Liberty.

Carmen.

Not a great line up at liberty that day. Chose Carmen as she had the cutest face and more important a dirty look about her. Cool girl. German. Likes her club music and raving. Always good to hear. Exotic look about her which I like. She said her Dad was from Tanzania. So I chose half hour € 60 and said fuck it 20 extra for kissing. Great DFK so didn't regret the extras. She had had nice furry pubes and loved having me DATY. Great ass. Licked her hole deep. Then she got in doggy position and gave me alook. Wow. So I mounted her like we were animals in Tanzania! Finished like that. Will repeat.

Dolca Vita II.

Vanessa.

I was looking forward to this. Looked like plenty of talent from the website. 24 hrs and right beside where I was staying in Kreuzkoln as they are calling it these days. Also bar Apropros attached though I didn't bother going in. Poor line up. Alina looked hot but ice cold and grumpy. I chose Vanessa from Romania as she was cute all smiles and friendly. She's not on website. She was still warm and friendly in bed but no kissing or DATY allowed. Shit. Thought that this was going to end the session. But I got her on her knees to give covered BJ which was ok. Then a few positions until she did reverse cowgirl which did the job. €50 30 mins. Would not repeat.

Bei Gera.

Fancied a bit of Asian one evening after dinner and few beers. Went 1 stop to Bei gera near boddinstr Ubahn. Karsgartenerstr. I was there a few years back and had a good dirty session. I fancied some dirt. This night however, was not in the same category. But dirt I got.

I rang the bell was ushered in by the mamasan and shown the 2 available. One small, serious and plain of features. The other. Well not very attractive to say the least. Quite large and eager looking. The mamasan asked which one?

Now even right now I still think the only possible answer was no thanks and to turn and leave and go home sort myself out for free. No, my legs and my brain stopped working. I just looked at the two over and back between the plain jane and well, big jane. It was like I was under the impression I had to choose one in order to see the outside world again. I'm still not sure why. Was I that horny? As I reluctantly look at them now in my minds eye, I still don't even know why I chose as I did. Yes I chose big jane. It can only be that she looked so eager, like a schoolchild trying to get teacher to choose them to answer a question. She practically put her arm up and squealed Mich Mich. So to my eternal shame I chose big jane. Perhaps I thought that enthusiasm could be put to good use. I can't remember her real name. Don't want to remember. In the room as I waited for her to return I thought of leaving. No I've paid €50 I can't. Got to get my moneys worth. In she trudged, non stop jabbering. She jumped on me started kissing me. Jesus, stop. Then as she could see I wasn't interested in kissing she pushed me down towards her considerable Bush. This was not the way I wanted to leave this mortal coil. I still had much to live for. I finally snapped out of it and decided to take the bull by the horns so to speak, and make the best out what seemed to be a considerably bad lot. I brought my traumatised appendage back to life and stuck it in her mouth, stuffed it in in fact as she was still jabbering away in her thai / german patois. I would stuff my balls in too for variety. At least she was entusiastic sucking and licking and jibberjabbering away. Even a cursory lick of my hole. Eventually I spun her around put her face in the pillow, took her from behind and closed my eyes and thought of a hot large English girl I used to work with and always wanted to bang. I got there thankfully quickly. As I dressed she continued on her rant and I caught myself in the mirror. I promised myself there and then If I got out alive I would treat myself to a trip to Kamilla dee the next day.

KD.

Penny.

It was just good to get back to civilisation again! Penny nice sexy girl. 30 mins. I spent lots of time just worshipping her body. Lots of DATY. Basically I just kissed and licked her body from head to toes. No DFK though. After the previous nights trauma the sight of a beautiful body was what I needed. A little 69 and then shot my load while spooning her and kissing her neck. Tasty!

Back in a few weeks. Plan a trip to L'amour as I've never been. Some lovely looking young things on the site. Has anyone got any recent intel on the place? There's nothing recent on here. Will update in due course.

Regards!

Hello, Rainmadra, I share your opinion of Tomsen as a value-for-money, relatively reliable place. I have been with Nataly and Leonie. Not quite as pretty as I'd dreamt, but still solid providers.

Like Ekstase and Europa, Tomsen has a lot of Latvians, who are generally nice girls, though without much conversation. A few years ago, the economy in Latvia crashed, and that is probably why there are so many sexy refugees in town. Filling the gap left by the ageing Thai population.

[QUOTE=Rainmadra; 1208192]Been a while, but here goes again.

Bei Tomsen.

We all know where it is and if you don't it's just a matter of checking out previous posts on this forum or indeed their website. I have to say Bei Tomsen is a great favourite of mine. Nothing fancy, quite small. Actually very small in some rooms, more of that anon. But good clean wholesome fun for the right price![/QUOTE]

One more trip to Berlin.

This city is addictive. Value-wise, it's hard to beat the luxury, culture, food, grass-availability, and general level of professionalism that permeates every sector of the tourism industry.

After lurking at the babes on Van Kampen's website, I decided to disregard all the xenophobic rumours and started the trip by paying them a visit. I'm North African, so if there's ever a hint of racism as has been claimed, I'm as good a guinea pig as they come. Also, keep in mind that I took a 5am flight and hadn't yet checked in my hotel. You can easily reach it if you follow the directions they provide. I was unfortunate enough to input the address on my phone. Big mistake! Berlin's address numbering system makes very little sense. I don't seem to learn from previous experiences. Anyway, after an hour of turning in circles, I finally got in. The "madam" was courteous. She lead me to a luxurious room, and the ballet started. It was a Sunday at 1330, and there were five girl on the menu. The last one, Holly, made an impression on me with her flattering outfit moulant and little extra perk in the voice. Holly is a gorgeous tall (175 cm AND wears very high heels) blonde with just enough fake tits, and an open mind that will blow yours (your mind as well as your penis, that is). She had an appointment so we settled for 40 minutes. Set me back 140 euros with kissing.

I'll pass over the details but it was an amazing session with plenty of DFK and academy-award passion. So much so, that I booked her for an hour two days later. As it turned out, I ran out of money by then and had to cancel the appointment.

Berlin day two.

I started the day by shopping around, then headed to Artemis to see if any blondes tickle my fancy. The first girls my eyes met were Nela and Jane. They seem to hang out together. Nela is flawless. Jane is a solid 8. I took Nela for a spin. Then I met a Daniela who made up for her physique flaws with a lot of enthusiasm. Then a good massage. And back to an orgy with Nela and Jane together. Best fuck of my life.

Downside is, I'm quasi certain it's the best opti-fuck I'll have my entire life. Nothing can top these two dolls for me.

They called me Krusty the Clown because of my frizzy hair. And when we departed, I was asked if I had a girlfriend, I replied with a guttural growl to mean "not really". They couldn't stop laughing at that, and neither could I. For 5 minutes straight. As close as I ever come to whatever hominid ancestors. The origins are bound to emerge when you indulge the reptilian brain.

Third day started with a long stroll at the zoo and aquarium. Then a very wet lunch at a Portugese restaurant. As my hotel was within walking.

Distance of Liberty, I decided to give it a go given that it's an affordable place. I picked a Russian brunette named Ina. Not a word of English, but she's quite something when she flexes her kegels and gives you that pretty smile. I forgot my umbrella there and it started raining. So I went back for my umbrella. And another line-up while I'm at it! Keeping with the brunette theme, I went for Vanessa. She's pretty but lacks enthusiasm.

In his latest book, Michael Shermer describes a book by Prof. Barret of Harvard which deals with superstimuli. It appears that what I was exposed to is a form of superstimulus. Silicone-enhanced gorgeous smiley receptive youthful girls are about as addictive as hyper-calorific doughnuts. To quote Shermer: "such physical characteristics are both strongly desired and without satiation, so our brains can be tricked into feeling that more is better".

I can explain it, but am evolutionarily programmed to keep doing it. Even if it kills me. Like those rats Coolidge experimented on (look it up, it's fascinating science!).

I have to give up this hobby soon lest I go bankrupt. I'm going to save money left and right and plan a last trip to this city next year. It's already freezing cold, and I'd rather spend what little free time I have in the sunny Mediterranean.

Forget Disney! Berlin IS the happiest place on Earth.

Just saw 2 new girls (at least for me) on Monrouge's page.

[url]http://www.monrouge.com/house-models.html[/url]

I find Dea particularly attracting and might decide to give a try at the place on my next visit.

Anyone tryed the girl (s)?

Best.

Kimino

Hi Guys,

I am in berlin now and looking for a good shemale / TS escort. Any suggestions?

Alex

[QUOTE=Kimino;1209052]Anyone tryed the girl (s)?[/QUOTE]Can not say I have. But Dea looks like a real fire cracker. We need a report Kimino.

AM

[QUOTE=AlexBrice; 1209090]Hi Guys,

I am in berlin now and looking for a good shemale / TS escort. Any suggestions?

Alex[/QUOTE]I do not think you will find info on this here. Nobody is really into it as far as I can tell. I would be careful with the inquires as over on the Thailand thread even asking the question is a ban-able offence.

Honestly-I would look elsewhere but I am sorry I do not know where. As I say, just not into it.

AM

I am not so enthusiastic about that, no fetishism. But : Why, for heavens sake, nearly all girls you find on the web-sides wear shoes? Even when they lay in a bed or so? As for me : I love to caress or even kiss some nice feet. But I want to see them. OK, not so important. And have a nice Sunday-night. SC

[QUOTE=Severin Carl;1209460]I am not so enthusiastic about that, no fetishism. But : Why, for heavens sake, nearly all girls you find on the web-sides wear shoes? Even when they lay in a bed or so? As for me : I love to caress or even kiss some nice feet. But I want to see them. OK, not so important. And have a nice Sunday-night. SC[/QUOTE]I my experience women, not just pros, are very often unhappy with their feet. Maybe this explains this phenomenon? And maybe it is just that they really like the shoes? As much as women hate their feet they like their shoes. Go figure.

For me it is almost a deal breaker and certainly grounds for no repeat if a woman at Artemis declines to remove her boots. Shoes I can just about handel.

AM

[QUOTE=Severin Carl;1209460]I am not so enthusiastic about that, no fetishism. But : Why, for heavens sake, nearly all girls you find on the web-sides wear shoes? Even when they lay in a bed or so? As for me : I love to caress or even kiss some nice feet. But I want to see them. OK, not so important. And have a nice Sunday-night. SC[/QUOTE]They obviously do it because they think that shoes, like other accessories, enchance their beauty or their sexy side. Same with lingerie, kinky dresses, make up.

Personally, I do appreciate this stuff quite a lot. A part from shoes, I find partially cover nudity a lot more sexy than plain nudity. We call it "vedo non vedo" literally "see not see".

Shoes (usually hh) also helps the legs to look much longer.

Ciao

[OK, so far. I also prefer some nice dress to complete nudity. Let me quote french writer Paul Bourget : "Cachez vous un peu pour qu' on vous desire the'autant plus." BUT : Sometimes it seems that there is a kind of uniform : Black bra, black slip, black stockings, black high heels. Nothing personal. This week I probably will be in Berlin and I will try to meet Sophie from "Royal". Nice girl, good service (hope so) , and she shows her lovely feet. SC.

QUOTE=Kimino; 1209519]They obviously do it because they think that shoes, like other accessories, enchance their beauty or their sexy side. Same with lingerie, kinky dresses, make up.

Personally, I do appreciate this stuff quite a lot. A part from shoes, I find partially cover nudity a lot more sexy than plain nudity. We call it "vedo non vedo" literally "see not see".

Shoes (usually hh) also helps the legs to look much longer.

Ciao[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Severin Carl;1209770]BUT : Sometimes it seems that there is a kind of uniform : Black bra, black slip, black stockings, black high heels. Nothing personal. This week I probably will be in Berlin and I will try to meet Sophie from "Royal". Nice girl, good service (hope so) , and she shows her lovely feet. SC.[/QUOTE]That's exactly the point I think. Very few girls have a clue on how to use this accessories to valorize their beauty.

I'll be in Berlin too, probably visiting Monrouge or Royal.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Choukchouk;1209025]One more trip to Berlin.This city is addictive.[/QUOTE]CC. Glad you made it to van Kampen and have personally put the "auslander" bullshit to rest eins und fur alles. Holly, on the website seems to have morphed a bit into a Dominitrix mode, but as you found out, she can be quite extraordinarily normal. Been a fav of mine a long time. Like Mon Rouge, vK is just tad more expensive than KD, Prestige, Royal, Liberty but has a top lineup. Great that you enjoyed it, and great that you had the courage to persevere. Nice report.

i was in berlin for a few days so i decided to try a few places after reading the reports here.

day 1: decided to try royal and was specifically looking for lea but she wasn't working. i was in mitte and after some maneuvering on the u-bahn finally found royal. i must have come out of the wrong exit since it took me more time to get to it than what i saw angus do on his video. for a business that's legal there sure is a lot of secrecy surrounding it. i rang the bell and was immediately buzzed in. however, i had to climb some stairs to get to it and had to ring the bell again. then i was rushed to a private room where we discussed the particulars since clients are not allowed to discuss business in the hallway. i was informed i could have a quickie which was 20 min for 50 or 30 min for 80 or one hour but i forget the rate since i usually like the shorter sessions unless i've seen the girl before. then the girls parade in, introduce themselves, and leave one by one. hopefully you've got a good memory. most of them were ok but i liked mica's look so i chose her. when she came in she asked what i wanted so i said i just wanted the 20 min session, but she informed me she was not a 20 min girl and that the minimum was a half an hour. so i decided to go for the half hour 80e rate. mica is very pretty with streaked black hair and pretty blue eyes and a slim figure.

she gave me a basket full of soap, flimsy slippers and a towel and showed me to the bathroom. i took a quick shower and before i was done i heard a knock on the door. so i told her to hold on and hurried out. the room is very nice and well decorated but somewhat dark. instead of doing it on the nice bedspread she spread out a white sheet on the bed and we began the activities. i kissed her breasts and caressed her and soon after started mish. she lay on her back on her elbows so it was a bit difficult to get around at times. when i was almost finished she decided to move around and i came quicker than i would ordinarily have. then she handed me some paper towels and i had to clean myself off. she then left and the house manager came in and asked how i liked it. i said it was good and she showed me the door but peeked through the peephole to make sure there wasn't anyone there.

day 2: i wanted to try some other places so i went to kd. it's a little walk from the u stop. when i got there i wanted to see chrissy so she came in the room but informed me she was busy for several hours. she is very pretty and young but heavier than the website shows her. i was introduced to one other girl who also was a little heavier than what i liked. there were three other girls but they were busy. so i left and decided to try celine 69. when i got there were only two women working but both were older with some mileage on them so i decided to try to find monrouge.

i must have had the wrong instructions from google maps because i must have walked for an hour trying to find it but never did. frustrated i decided to try royal again hoping that maybe lea was working today. when i got there unfortunately she wasn't but i decided to try a new girl who i think is named louisa. i opted for the 20 minutes again since i had not seen louisa and there were similar procedures as before. louisa is very pretty and has black hair with beautiful blue eyes. she is new so she may come across as shy but i found her newbie status to be charming and she has a beautiful slim body. i kissed her all over and enjoyed some very clean daty to which she responded with all the proper sound effects. i also found out that in the 20 min you can only do one position. her english is minimal but it was so cute how she called the pimp the "housewife." in addition to some nice sex i also enjoyed learning a few german phrases. louisa does not do bbbj or cim which would have made it a fantastic session but i still enjoyed my time with her. i had hoped to see her again for a longer time but my schedule changed so i couldn't but i definitely want to. i missed out on lea but found a gem in louisa.

the only downside is that the girls don't clean you up, and it would be nice if they would give you a hug before they leave so it doesn't seem so businesslike. all in all i had a good time at royal and i hope to try some of the other places someday. berlin is surprisingly cheap for a european capital, so enjoy!

[QUOTE=Ali Ababwa;1210750]Berlin is surprisingly cheap for a European capital, so enjoy![/QUOTE]In almost all countries, the average income in the capital city is above its country's average. Berlin is one of only a handful exceptions (worldwide!).

If you're on a very tight budget, you should try the Kino scene (sex cinemas). However, I visited a Kino once and never came back.

Was in Berlin yesterday with a friend and decided to visit some apartments before going to Artemis.

Originally, I wanted to meet either Dea or Julia or Carla at Monrouge so I called the day before, talked to a helpull lady that told me that Lea only works from late afternoon (same with Carla) and at the max they could arrange it for around 14:00.

Being that we wanted to have fun before that, I declined and I will absolutely try to catch Dea on my next visit.

Anyway, at 9:00 we where at Schonefeld, wouldn't wait until 14:00, my friend never visited apatments in Berlin, so off we went for another small tour. We where looking for a place with at least 2 nice girls, and yes I know it was real early.

By the time we where in the VK-KD-Royal triangle it was around 10:30, all clubs open at 10:00.

The day before I also called all of them to make sure that there where enough girls around.

First stop, Van Kampen, around 10:40. Hausmut always very friendly. I do like the place but only 4 girls where available. 1 cute. 1 doable and 2 not interesting.

We decided to leave.

Around 11:00 we where at Kamilla La Dee. The situation was even worse. 4 girls, none interesting. The schedule on their website was not respected or maybe all good ones where busy.

Around 11:20 we where at Royal. I saw guy that was hesitating in ringing so I approached talking loudly and making some noise and rang before him, it was just a joke. Was it you Ali Ababwa?

Asking because the guy was also going up to Royal and came up after us two.

We stopped at the 2nd floor this time. Went in a room and was shown the girls.

Probably 6, all of them nice. I remember Maria (chosed by my friend) , Sara, Celina and Jolien.

I chosed Jolien.

27, german. Long black hair, piercing on pussy and nose.

As my previous experiences with girls at Royal (Valerie and Mica) , the quality of service was great. Pure GFE.

Took an hour + kissing + cim + tip 250euro.

As usual I could get a shower before and after. If only they could get some bigger towels.

Nice session, but of the three I tryed there, Valerie was the best.

My conclusion about the apartents thing, for now:

- the more I look at it, the more I like it.

- the correct approach is to decide which girl you want to session with, call and make an appointment. If you don't want to do this and made no planning, go Royal.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1210879]Was in Berlin yesterday with a friend and decided to visit some apartments before going to Artemis.

My conclusion about the apartments thing, for now: the more I look at it, the more I like it.

- the correct approach is to decide which girl you want to session with, call and make an appointment. If you don't want to do this and made no planning, go Royal.

Kimino[/QUOTE]K. Glad your explorations worked. I would just say this: before noon anywhere, you risk limiting choices. Things really only get going after 1200, as most girls like to sleep in, slowly get ready, and have to commute in, etc. And remember, the girls' favorite local steady clients will likely book them during lunch, and just after work. So that means, your odds increase say between 1400-1700, and on the night shift (which can start 16 or 1700) after 1930. Not that it is impossible outside those intervals, just that the odds are better with more and better choices during those hours. Important for you long distance travelers. KD surely would have a better line up mid-afternoon, as would Liberty, van Kampen, Prestige, Ritter, etc.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1210909]K. Glad your explorations worked. I would just say this: before noon anywhere, you risk limiting choices. Things really only get going after 1200, as most girls like to sleep in, slowly get ready, and have to commute in, etc.[/QUOTE]thanks RB! Absolutely makes sense.

This time we where quite in a hurry, didn't know what my friend would prefer doing so we just did some improvisation.

For the next trip, in a couple of weeks, I'll definitely have a pragmatic approach, at least on day 1.

The list of girls I want to try is rapidly growing so next time I'll schedule everything. Julia and Dea (Monrouge) , Kate (VK) , Lea (KD) and Ella aka Helena (Odette) are all in my wishlist.

Jesus, this is getting complicated. :)

Kimino

[QUOTE=WsgJack2;1210812]If you're on a very tight budget, you should try the Kino scene (sex cinemas). However, I visited a Kino once and never came back.[/QUOTE]Agreed. With a little exploration you can find some gems hidden in amongst dreck. Try Elena's (near Royal & KD) for a nice kino. The 20 min. Sessions at the high priced bordellos tend to be a little business like in my experience. The girls do not really give their A game for a 20 min.

AM

Yet again I take my hat off to the team at the Breakaway Republic of EKSTASE: Elena,"fairy on a motorcycle," the canny mastermind behind the lineup; Victoria from Latvia of the eternal orgasm; the gorgeous redhead Ilona, who Ekstase will be lucky to get back once she is finished acting in that Russian film or whatever; Diana, an Estonian Barbie doll who is great to chat to while she is wanking you off because she has visited every party island on the planet; and never forgetting super-skilled veteran Lucy, whose sensuous spectral hands outlast her in the studio.

Sorry, I wonder if I saw in this forum different Internet links to rooms,"romantically" decorated as in bordellos, for rent?

I could not find these links anymore so can anybody help me?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1212703]Sorry, I wonder if I saw in this forum different Internet links to rooms,"romantically" decorated as in bordellos, for rent?

I could not find these links anymore so can anybody help me?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I have seen a few of these sorts of places advertised. One is linked below.

[url]http://www.seitensprungzimmer-berlin.de/ambiente.html[/url]

Liberty also advertises that you can rent one of their rooms by the hour.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/rentaroom.html[/url]

I know that there are others and if I come across the link I will post.

AM

Other links
http://www.miet-saunen.de/4.html
http://www.love-hotel-berlin.com/index.html
http://www.lustmassagen.de/zimmer.html

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1212284]Agreed. With a little exploration you can find some gems hidden in amongst dreck. Try Elena's (near Royal & KD) for a nice kino. The 20 min. Sessions at the high priced bordellos tend to be a little business like in my experience. The girls do not really give their A game for a 20 min.

AM[/QUOTE]Mr Angus could you explain me how those kino places work? I can't imagine a porno cinema with girls doing their thing publicly.

I know I'm wrong but the concept is new for me.

Thanks a lot for all the information you share with us, amazing really.

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1212830]Mr Angus could you explain me how those kino places work? I can't imagine a porno cinema with girls doing their thing publicly.

I know I'm wrong but the concept is new for me.

Thanks a lot for all the information you share with us, amazing really.[/QUOTE]Some sex (bjs, hjs) can take place right in the kino. But there are also rooms if you want to have sex. Prices vary slightly but a BJ in the kino will run you around 25-30 euros. Sex in a room around 50. These place can be pretty sleazy and run down. But some are okay. Also the women can vary from down right scary to quite doable. Of course you will not find girls of the caliber found in a place like Royal.

See my blog for a some what more poetic description.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1212729]I have seen a few of these sorts of places advertised. One is linked below.

[url]http://www.seitensprungzimmer-berlin.de/ambiente.html[/url]

Liberty also advertises that you can rent one of their rooms by the hour.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/rentaroom.html[/url]

I know that there are others and if I come across the link I will post.

AM.

Other links.

[url]http://www.miet-saunen.de/4.html[/url]

[url]http://www.love-hotel-berlin.com/index.html[/url]

[url]http://www.lustmassagen.de/zimmer.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks Angus,

[url]http://www.seitensprungzimmer-berlin.de/ambiente.html[/url]

And.

[url]http://www.miet-saunen.de/4.html[/url]

[url]http://www.love-hotel-berlin.com/index.html[/url]

Are interesting because it's sometimes "delicate" to propose a lady to go to. A real bordello!

Hi my friends,

I am from Italy and have moved to Berlin since the beginning of August.

Since I completely fell in love with Dea just looking at her pictures, I decided to give her a try. A wonderful Romanian, sweet and caring, who gave me a great GF experience. I brought her flowers to show her how much I was positively impressed. The chemistry and communication were both fine. A quick shower before the session. Kissing was supposed to be an extra, but it was not during the action. An unforgettable 69 and then she asked me to lie on her. I did it slowly and passionately, she hugged me and we were just speaking the same language. I really tried hard not to come and my stamina was surprisingly good. I felt her and the warmth she gave me. I would say that Monrouge did not disappoint me at all. If there are other girls whom you have experienced there, which of those would you recommend.

Cheers and take care!

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1212956]Thanks Angus,

[url]http://www.love-hotel-berlin.com/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]If delicacy is needed you may also be careful with the Stockholm which is where a lot of indy girls take their clients. Never having been there my self I can not say just how sleazy it is. I believe it is a step up from the Steinmetz (where the street girls take their customers) but it is pretty much smack dab in the middle of Berlin's gay ghetto so one could run into some interesting guests in the hallway.

The other two do look like what you seem to be looking for, if at a slightly higher price.

Does this inquiry mean one of our own is getting some non-paid nookie? If so congrats and have fun.

AM

To begin, Penny is as pretty as her picture, if not a bit thinner and softer than one would imagine. A couple of earlier reviews are mixed, but I decided to give her a whirl based on her looks and KD's stellar reputation.

She met me downstairs and was lively and cheerful at the greeting, giving me high hopes for what was to come. What followed was one of the worst sessions I've had on this or any other continent.

I showered and returned to the fuck-chamber to find her laying nude on the bed, her delightful derrière on display. Laying beside her, we chatted ever so briefly, my arm around her affectionately. As I moved my head toward hers, she informed me curtly,"I don't kiss." No DFK, no LFK, no head to head contact whatsoever. Having a long history of getting good mileage, being generally kind, charming, considerate and attentive to a girl's pleasure as well as my own, our session started on a low note, particularly as I'd read of a prior passionate session with her. I can only assume that she didn't feel like engaging much at the tail end of her day, or that she knew this tourist was quite unlikely to turn into a regular customer, or a combination of the two.

I'd booked 45 minutes with her, though I didn't spend quite that long, two bored bodies, not connecting, simply going through the motions. Penny put very little effort into the session and, in fact, seemed more interested in pleasing herself than in pleasing me. C'est la vie.

[QUOTE=FrankyBoy79;1212963]Since I completely fell in love with Dea just looking at her pictures, I decided to give her a try.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I am kind of wondering how much you paid and for how long you stayed?

As for other MR girls, search the forum for reports as there are several. Charlie 123 has reviewed a couple as have some others.

AM

[QUOTE=FrankyBoy79; 1212963]Hi my friends,

I am from Italy and have moved to Berlin since the beginning of August.

Since I completely fell in love with Dea just looking at her pictures, I decided to give her a try.[/QUOTE]thanks for the report FrankyBoy79.

Dea is for sure in my wishlist and I will try to meet her on my next visit.

One question, didi yu fix an appointment to meet her or just showed up at MR?

Ciao!

Kimino

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1213014]If delicacy is needed you may also be careful with the Stockholm which is where a lot of indy girls take their clients. Never having been there my self I can not say just how sleazy it is. I believe it is a step up from the Steinmetz (where the street girls take their customers) but it is pretty much smack dab in the middle of Berlin's gay ghetto so one could run into some interesting guests in the hallway.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Angus, for the warning.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1213014]Does this inquiry mean one of our own is getting some non-paid nookie? If so congrats and have fun.

AM[/QUOTE]Just in case I will need such adresses.

Finally, may be if I really need, I will just use my hotel room but it's not so "romantical"!

Hi all, this is my first post here.

I decided to try some discount sex and went to King George on a weekday few weeks ago. I came there around 6. 7 pm. Greeted by Drago at the entrance, he asked what my native language was and switched to it as soon as I told him. Made me feel very comfortable and at home straight away. Very friendly and courteous man.

I went in, the place looks like your regular local bar, not luxurious but not sleazy or dirty either. There were 4 girls inside, one of them quite pretty. They chatted and didn't seem to be very interested in me. I sat down with a beer, two of the girls, including the cute one, went on stage and performed a very amateur pole-dance. Drago came up and told me to not be shy and take a girl to the room, reminding me that sex and drinks are unlimited, and that I can leave later for a meal and come back without any problems.

I took the pretty girl to a room. Both her English and her service were surprisingly good, after reading a few reviews here I was kinda scared she'll just lie down and do nothing, but she was quite eager to please, almost passionate. No kissing and covered BJ, though. Unfortunately, I couldn't find her pics on KG website, and I'm really not sure what her name was. Was it Roberta? Not sure, sorry. I always forget names. Brunette, Romanian, slim, amazing butt.

After 20 mins she told me I can only occupy the room for 20 mins and that I should go. She said, that if I want to stay for an hour, I have to buy her a bottle of champaigne. Knowing that I could visit Artemis for a price of champaigne in KG, I refused. She seemed to take the fact that I couldn't finish very personally, seemed very offended and kept repeating that she gave me head and fucked me and I still didn't come, as if I did it to somehow diminish her work. I apologized, and left the room.

When I came back to the main area, I noticed another pretty girl, so I came up to her hoping to finish what I started, but she told me I just had another girl and should take a rest and have a beer. Drago came to check on me again, asked if everything was fine, I nodded and smiled.

The rest of the evening was pretty much same, just that other girls were much less active. Even Alina's service (I've seen some good reviews of her) wasn't as good as the first girl I've had, although also better than what I would expect in such a cheap place. Other 2 girls I've tried were not as pretty, and not as eager.

So, maximum of 20 mins in the room with the girl, they ALL seem to get offended if you don't manage to finish in that time or masturbate to finish, and at least half an hour wait between the sessions. The place was deserted, only 2 customers apart from me, and only 5 or 6 girls. I left before midnight, maybe it gets livelier later, or maybe its busy only on weekends.

In the end, I'd say it's a great place to go if you can finish fast. Otherwise, it can be rather frustrating. All in all, I had sex 5 times and got bit drunk for a 100 euros, so it is definitely value for money, especially taking into account that I did not leave any tips. The place itself is not as sleazy as they say, and Drago gets brownie points for being genuinely friendly and accomodating.

Now, yes, ok, it's true, I did register rather to take than to give, and I only submitted the report to not feel like such a parasite. I'll go ahead and ask my questions now.

I'm looking to spend about 200-250 euros for about 1-1, 5 hours of quality sex with a beautiful woman who'll make me feel wanted. I want passion, kisses, hugs, uncovered BJ and all. I'd like to do it on a weekday afternoon.

Would I be better off going to Artemis or some appartment brothel? Taking in the account, that I'm interested in time alone with the girl, not in hanging around in a house full of naked ladies.

Is the service much better if I spend all my money on one girl?

Can I count on quality service just for listed price (it would be 80 entry + 180 for 1, 5 hrs in Artemis, or 240 for 1, 5 hrs in an appartement brothel) , or should I rather just get 1 hour and spend the rest on tips and extras?

Thanks a lot. I do promise to write a review afterwards.

Hello All,

Looking for some advice on Berlin. The wife and I are going together. We are reasonably adventurous. The wife likes everything to be clean and nice so higher end is preferable. We are looking for Strip clubs (with lots of extras available) , tantric massage recs, bars that double as brothels (low pressure, could have a drink and leave if nothing inspires). Also curious if the FKK clubs are couple friendly or not.

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but if there's any info about high end swinger clubs I'd love to know.

Appreciate the help!

K

[QUOTE=Niby Lu; 1213088]I'm looking to spend about 200-250 euros for about 1-1, 5 hours of quality sex with a beautiful woman who'll make me feel wanted. I want passion, kisses, hugs, uncovered BJ and all. I'd like to do it on a weekday afternoon.

Would I be better off going to Artemis or some appartment brothel? Taking in the account, that I'm interested in time alone with the girl, not in hanging around in a house full of naked ladies.

Is the service much better if I spend all my money on one girl?

Can I count on quality service just for listed price (it would be 80 entry + 180 for 1, 5 hrs in Artemis, or 240 for 1, 5 hrs in an appartement brothel) , or should I rather just get 1 hour and spend the rest on tips and extras?

Thanks a lot. I do promise to write a review afterwards.[/QUOTE]You could find exactly what you seek at either a bordelle or at Artemis, but equally you could commit your money and end up with a disappointing experience at either venue as well.

You need a combination of luck and good judgement in choosing your girl, whether that be in an FKK environment or in one of the appartments. Reading previous reports on forums such as this will help your chances.

On balance, I believe that the ability to speak to girls for a few minutes before you have to exercise your choice is a huge factor in selecting a suitable partner, and that is why on balance I usually suggest that people seeking a super GFE have a better chance of finding it at Artemis than anywhere else in the city. If you were looking for a series of 'special services' from a girl then I would probably direct you to the bordelles and studios, but for a passionate 'blind date', Artemis is the best option IMHO.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1213174]Artemis is the best option IMHO.

Charlie[/QUOTE]I would agree with Charlie's assessment. Over all Artemis is the best bet unless you are willing to do some exploratory short sessions in the bordellos to find your girl. GFEs (especially super GFEs) are not that easy to come by. As Regnad's recent session with Penny (bei KD) shows, even when you do your homework, visit a reputable bordello and find a girl who is attractive to you, there is still the chemistry to consider. This can only be determined with some conversation and / or actually visiting the room with the girl.

AM

[quote=angus magee; 1213276]i would agree with charlie's assessment. over all artemis is the best bet unless you are willing to do some exploratory short sessions in the bordellos to find your girl. gfes (especially super gfes) are not that easy to come by. as regnad's recent session with penny (bei kd) shows, even when you do your homework, visit a reputable bordello and find a girl who is attractive to you, there is still the chemistry to consider. this can only be determined with some conversation and / or actually visiting the room with the girl.

am[/quote]charlie123 is surely right when he says you can have a great time or a disaster anywhere. it just depends. one small note in niby lu's case; if as his post reads, the "afternoon" time constraint really is binding, artemis is at low strength then. and even more so sun-tues. i would actually say, a bordello during the day would be more likely to satisfy than artemis.

as always, you really cannot predict how a session will go, but you can do some things to increase the odds. here regnad's tale of yesterday is useful although sorry he had to go through it. it really is critical, in a bordello especially, that you have to slow the speeding interview-intro train down. just before you seal the deal, be very clear and explicit what you expect and watch the reaction & body language before the girl walks out the door and returns to the receptionist. as angus said - you have to have some conversation.

you don't need to do this immediately, and obviously use a little small talk first with some humor and charm. but if certain things are important or deal breakers, eg kissing (which it almost is for me) , you just have to ask directly. it's a helpful courtesy to the girl as well as she does not need the in situ awkwardness either. it is absolutely allowed to have a little banter while a girl introduces herself in a bordello. you just say wait, can i ask a few questions, as long as it's just a few minutes obviously. but there is no pressure to decide instantly, unless self-imposed. take the time. same actually true at artemis. be very clear, just before you agree to zimmer, what both expect. if you feel the slightest bad vibe on all, you just have to walk. easy to say- i have several times not followed my own advice, and it was the completely predictable disaster, which actually made it even worse. none of this guarantees the mythical gfe, chemistry, smell can change in an instant, in the room. but at least you have a better shot in what is still at the end of the day, a commercial payment to trigger in a strange woman who does not know you, an unpredictable physio-emotional response.

with a new, first time experience, i actually would never make a fixed booking ahead, no matter how good an internet picture looked. i would ring to see if the intended was there, i would ask about her schedule so i had an idea when, and just turn up to see first if the chemistry was there, and then to go through the above drill. it might mean a little waiting around if she became occupied during the interval, but well worth it. yes it does take a little more time, and you have to have it to potentially waste it. but i'd rather blow half-1 hr (when i can read something i need to anyway) than dump 120 eur to buy just frustration.

with just a little discipline. 120 eur at kamilla dee, liberty, royal, prestige, perhaps a little more 140ish for the best at mon rouge or van kampen, you can have a roaring gfe time for 40-45 min. i personally think the women are better than the current artemis offerings, and it will cost less. it is a different experience to be sure, as has been discussed in depth on both threads.

but for the 250 ish niby lu wants to spend, you could actually almost do both - 120-140 for 45 min in a bordello (kissing & bbbj) , then 140 for at least one 30 min session in artemis, just to compare. but, go to artemis 20:00 ish, wed-sat so at least it is at full strength.

on the more complex. kronos25 and his open-minded beloved: you might just ring any of the bordellos above and ask. or, berlin has a number of swingers clubs or the famous insomnia, to which i have never been, but have laid awake at night thinking about it (hence the name). would be great if there was a detailed report on insomnia here.

Not an easy keyword to search for. :)

Anyone tryed this girl?

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin/summer.html[/url]

Never saw her in Royal but I always went there in strange hours (early afternoon and such).

Best.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1213293]Would be great if there was a detailed report on Insomnia here.[/QUOTE]There is, a one or two I believe. But not from the perspective of a couple.

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1213305]Not an easy keyword to search for. .

Anyone tryed this girl?

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin/summer.html[/url]

Never saw her in Royal but I always went there in strange hours (early afternoon and such).

Best.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Hi Kimino,

I can give you an answer! A good looking lady indeed, but not as warm as I expected (nothing to do with Summer at all). Even though, good conversation.

100 € for 45 minutes!

I would rather choose another girl from the same line-up.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1213063]thanks for the report FrankyBoy79.

Dea is for sure in my wishlist and I will try to meet her on my next visit.

One question, didi yu fix an appointment to meet her or just showed up at MR?

Ciao!

Kimino[/QUOTE]Hi,

It is best to call the agency first to make sure what time she will be available!

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1213049]Thanks for the report. I am kind of wondering how much you paid and for how long you stayed?

As for other MR girls, search the forum for reports as there are several. Charlie 123 has reviewed a couple as have some others.

AM[/QUOTE]Hi Angus,

Paid € 80 for 30 minutes which seemed like a lifetime!

Please send me the link to the other MR reviews.

Thank you.

Hi fellas,

Has anyone of you tried Sandra! She is really beautiful!

Any report on service and emotional participation?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Regnad; 1213022]To begin, Penny is as pretty as her picture, if not a bit thinner and softer than one would imagine. A couple of earlier reviews are mixed, but I decided to give her a whirl based on her looks and KD's stellar reputation.

She met me downstairs and was lively and cheerful at the greeting, giving me high hopes for what was to come. What followed was one of the worst sessions I've had on this or any other continent.[/QUOTE]I think what happened is simply that Penny has got a ton of attention since she joined a couple of months ago, and now she just doesn't see any need to bother any more. Not your fault. See my earlier comments on KD. It isn't inevitable that girls become spoiled: it all depends on the attitude of management.

[QUOTE=FrankyBoy79; 1213370]Please send me the link to the other MR reviews.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]No, no, no Frankie my lad. This is not how it works. There is a search function and you do a search. Or simply scroll back through the thread. But it is wee bit of work and you are the one who wants to see these reviews, not me.

Also I suggest that if you ask about a specific girl you include a link so that we all know of whom you speak. Otherwise we have to search escortmodel24 and there is no guarantee that we even find the right girl. Have you any idea how many similar sounding agencies there are not to mention girls named Sandra?

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1213410]No, no, no Frankie my lad. This is not how it works. There is a search function and you do a search. Or simply scroll back through the thread. But it is wee bit of work and you are the one who wants to see these reviews, not me.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks Angus,

Just found them on my own!

Quite exhaustive I must admit: I have just read about the Nathalie-Paris-Roxana trilogy!

Difficult choice!

Cheers mate!

About a month and a half back a new bordello opened up just 10 minutes walk from my place. The corner of Dominicusstr. & Hauptstr. Is already well served with poon palaces in the forms of 2 kinos, a couple of bars, a Chinese massage parlour and a sleazy Thai bordello. Aston's, at first glace at least, appears to be a step up from these places. With this in mind, and some perhaps misguided notion that it is my duty to check out a new local bordello, I rang the bell last Wednesday afternoon to give it a try.

Aston's (presumably named after the British sports car manufacturer, and as RB noted when I showed him the web site,"looks more like a Toyota") is located on the second floor and is far from discreet with its' large sign in the window and on the buzzer. I was buzzed in and shown to a room to await the parade. So far, so good. The place is clean (it should be, it is new) and my only observation is that the decorator seems to favor '70s porn sets as a model for his / her mood. I was shown three girls, all girls I had seen on the web site and when the Hausmutti appeared again I chose Karina, apparently from Hungary.

[url]http://www.aston-berlin.de/?part=damen&girl=30[/url]

As soon as I made my choice, and the Hausmutti left to fetch her after asking for my drink order, I knew I had chosen badly. While Karina was indeed the best looking of the three shown, I had also sensed a sort of sour look on her face. I do not know why I chose her except to say that hers was the best looking presence on the web and sort of the one I had in mind. Once again I have to note that the FKK model of bordello is so much more conducive to good selection as if I had the easy opportunity to chat with the girl for a few minutes I am sure I would have passed her by.

Anyway, the die cast and after a longish wait Karina appeared and started to set up the bed. As she moved about the room I felt that sinking feeling that often comes before a substandard session. I tried my best to get some conversation going but was greeted with a wall of stoney silence. As RB has pointed out to me I probably still could have pulled the plug here, but not without a bit of trouble and confrontation. By this time I had paid and really had no good reason to bail other than her sour demeanour and the sinking feeling I had. Anyway, on with the show.

For my €50 (at least it is cheap) I was to receive BBBJ (included in all sessions 1/2 hr. And up here) and sex. DATY, I was assuming but as yet had not tried. The BJ was quite serviceable and after some minutes I went for Karina's puss for a lick. All well and good except for the fact that I got zero response. Growing bored I let her continue with the BJ until she slapped (and I do mean slapped) on the condom and I tried to enter in mish. The girl was dry as the Sahara and I know that I was not going in this way. I asked to switch to doggy (von hintern) and she gave a big sigh, grabbed off the condom and went to slap on another. Little A was wilting at the harsh treatment and by now was in no shape to enter a dry pussy. I meekly asked if she had any lube to which she replied a kurt 'no', ripped off the second condom and tried to replace it with a third,

At this point I simply gave up, lay back and asked her to do a hand job as I knew this was the only way any thing would happen. The hand job was proficient and seemed to be working. Small credit to the girl as when I leaned over and spread her ass so that I could get a view of her pussy in the mirror, she shifted to accommodate my prying eyes. Guess she figured anything to help me finish faster.

In under 20 minutes I had popped, cleaned up, dressed and was out the door without even a peck on the cheek from my beloved.

My conclusion is that Aston's is a reasonable low priced bordello but that one has to be more careful with one's choice than I was this day. It is also one to watch as new talent does seem to arrive daily on the web page. It is clean and at least for me could not be more conveniently located. And the prices certainly are right as all I lost on this session was a 50, so the pain was short lasting. But it must also be said that for just a little more one can probably get a whole lot better in the city of Berlin.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1213421]But it must also be said that for just a little more one can probably get a whole lot better in the city of Berlin.[/QUOTE]After having lurked and read a lot of reports, it seems like the conclusion is that new bordello-girls often are the worst. One should think it was the other way around, but I guess the stayers learn to give at least decent service, even on a bad day, as they've been around for a while. I was a bit disappointed when I read about Penny a few post back, as I was thinking about paying her a visit if / when I return to Berlin. Last time I went to KD in mid-July, I treated myself to an hour with a Romanian girl. I believe her name was Christine, but it wasn't the Christine on the website. Maybe it was Kristin. I can't remember. No kisses, not even doggie, as she was afraid I was going to hurt her (!) Basically we cuddled and talked about Berlin's nightlife for an hour. At least she allowed me to 69 a little, so I could finish. The lineup was meager, but this was at 22:00, so I guess they were tired. The hausmutti, with her baggy pants and somewhat shabby appearance, just gave me an indifferent glance and told me she'd check to see if anyone wanted to service me.

It was quite different when I was there earlier in the day, in February. A different mutti, very friendly, big lineup, girls willing to do most everything.

C.

Thanks for the heads up about Insomnia. Looks fun. Will definitely check it out and report back.

Angus,

As you seem to be the master of all things Berlin.

Are FKK clubs couple friendly?

Any strip club recommendations (higher end ones with extras preferred)?

I checked out Kashima Tantric massage too (read your blog). Looks very interesting. Any other ones that are comparable?

Thank you all. Can't wait to go.

Hi there!

I would like to ask you a question. I hope that's okay.

I'm looking for good girlfriend-like blowjobs (with condom) and some touching. I don't want to have normal sex (vagina). So the girl / place could also just offer blowjobs. The girl should take care about her health (no BBBJ). Can you recommend places and girls to me? (18-26 years old, thin, beautiful)

Actually I'm just looking for bordellos or similar places with kind of low risks of STDs. And they should be discreet (entrance.).

I want to pay 40 Euro (max.) for 15 to 20 minutes.

Thank you very much.

Okay, I've been meaning to put up a report from my time in August of two terrible experiences but haven't had the chance, and also because I couldn't remember neither the name of Mazurka nor it's exact location. A more recent trip has ironed that one out.

On my first night in Berlin celebrating my geburtstag, the drinks were flowing and the little man was nudging for some filth. After turning up at Rush Hour at about 3am, we (me and my mate) were turned away and were referred to Mazurka on Lietzenburger Straße near corner of Uhlandstrasse. I might mention at this point that we were well-oiled, but neat. We knew that a) there were no patrons, be) it was late with little chance of further punters pushing in.

The doorman was asking €30 entry, we tried to haggle him down but he wouldn't shift. So in we went not thinking. Upon entry of bar, the usual scanning went on of who is hot and who is not. One was young and pretty. About a six, and the rest were awful. The barmaid sat us down at the bar, and we were quickly shadowed by two girls. We ordered a beer each. The pretty Romanian one came to me, and a chubby dark-skinned weapon (maybe Tunisian) went to my mate. Barmaid then prompted us to buy drinks for said ladies for the princely sum of €40 each. We went with that, only for them to offer us swigs of their drinks. That annoyed me, it has to be said. Then the barmaid suggested we buy *her* a drink. I swiftly declined only for my mate to offer to buy one for her. Same thing, she took two sips and then started offering us to 'taste' it. 'no. Taste more. More'.

Then came time for 'der preise' talk. I can't remember exactly, but it was over €200ish for an hour. My mate declined and decided to bail, I stupidly took it up.

We went to the room with my beer and stripped, as did she. She then spread her legs and offered her pussy to have beer poured over. I did that, and tasted it back. I have to admit that was enjoying the experience. An inner voice told me I had better at this price. We did 69 (all with condom) , cowgirl, mish and doggy. She then started a hand-job and told me to close my eyes for a surprise. The surprise was fingering my ass. I went with it, but couldn't really finish.

I lay aside and started to chat. She was asking all manner of questions; what did I do, did I have a girlfriend, what hotel was I staying, where was I going tomorrow? I knew I was being fished for info for maybe a big catch, but also knew that I had nothing for her. While she was doing this. I was pretending to be more drunk than I actually was. She started to rifle through my jeans pockets and go through my wallet. I knew I only had €30 and one Mastercard. Had she helped herself to my money, she would have had to work the next night with a black eye. Oh, she did notice upon asking for initial payment that I had kept the money in my little front of jeans condom-pocket.

She then offered me more time. I said I have no more money. The €30 I had was considered 'no money'. She then asked If I had a credit-card, to which I said yes, to see where it would go. I did make it clear I did not want to extend the time, but she left the room anyway to fetch barmaid. When she came back with her, I did feel that there was bordello ettiquette being broken by two ladies whispering to each other in the room with me standing there naked as if I wasn't there.

After it was all said and done, she couldn't have rushed mr more to get dressed and leave. I started to stall to annoy her.

There was a taxidriver waiting outside chatting to the fat doorman. Obviosly he got the word there was a punter to fleace. He asked me where I was staying and, after telling him where, he stupidly told that it was only straight up the street. 'Ha! I'll walk', I said. He became really aggressive about me not getting in. Fuck 'I'm! I kept walking as he talked.

Anyway, stay well clear of Mazurka; expensive and dangerous.

[QUOTE=Kronos25; 1213122]Hello, All,

Looking for some advice on Berlin. The wife and I are going together. We are reasonably adventurous. The wife likes everything to be clean and nice so higher end is preferable. We are looking for Strip clubs (with lots of extras available) , tantric massage recs, bars that double as brothels (low pressure, could have a drink and leave if nothing inspires). Also curious if the FKK clubs are couple friendly or not.

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but if there's any info about high end swinger clubs I'd love to know.

Appreciate the help!

K[/QUOTE]Try Insomnia dude. €75 for single guys, €45 for couples and free for 'active' ladies on Tuesday. All drinks inclusive. I say Tuesday because it's quiet and can take more in. Weekends for ramping it up. Take U6 to Templehof Alt.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1212878]Some sex (bjs, hjs) can take place right in the kino. But there are also rooms if you want to have sex. Prices vary slightly but a BJ in the kino will run you around 25-30 euros. Sex in a room around 50. These place can be pretty sleazy and run down. But some are okay. Also the women can vary from down right scary to quite doable. Of course you will not find girls of the caliber found in a place like Royal.

See my blog for a some what more poetic description.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks again AM It seams to be a one time to try just for the experience. Hahaha I always wanted to be blown by any girl when I was a kid and sneaked in the porno movies. (what kind of pervert I was, I'm)

Can't wait to be there.

[QUOTE=FrankyBoy79; 1213371]Hi fellas,

Has anyone of you tried Sandra! She is really beautiful!

Any report on service and emotional participation?

Thank you![/QUOTE]Hey there Franky. You are in Berlin now right?

Seams like you are a good explorer and besides have a very good taste.

I will be in Berlin this Sunday for a week I can communicate some in Italian, like 70% I would say.

If you want a wing man to go those places I 'll be glad to join.

Get your membership to get in touch by private message and bring the house down.

By the way, did you see Rosalie last time in Royal? how she looks in person?
[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin/escort-sevice-berlin.html[/url]
[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/fileadmin/images/girls/Rosalie/Rosalie3.jpg[/url]
Talk to you later bro.

Ciao.

DeAldo

[QUOTE=Jimmy44; 1213485]Hi there!

I would like to ask you a question. I hope that's okay.

I'm looking for good girlfriend-like blowjobs (with condom) and some touching. I don't want to have normal sex (vagina). So the girl / place could also just offer blowjobs. The girl should take care about her health (no BBBJ). Can you recommend places and girls to me? (18-26 years old, thin, beautiful)

Actually I'm just looking for bordellos or similar places with kind of low risks of STDs. And they should be discreet (entrance.).

I want to pay 40 Euro (max.) for 15 to 20 minutes.

Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]Almost all the bordellos offer a short 20 minute option usually at around €40. You can certainly in that time ask for only a covered blow job. Finding a girl who only does covered bjs may be a bit of a challenge. But why the extra caution? If she uses a condom for your BJ that pretty much covers it and outs the risk at effectively zero.

I would say just stick with the mid range places and you are good to go.

AM

[QUOTE=Kronos25;1213447]Are FKK clubs couple friendly?[/QUOTE]It is reported that some of the Hessen clubs (Oase) allow women in with a partner. Artemis' policy is that it does not allow couples. So in Berlin the answer is no.

[QUOTE=Kronos25;1213447]Any strip club recommendations (higher end ones with extras preferred)?[/QUOTE]Strip clubs are not Berlin's strong suit. There are a few but they tend to be expensive and not that good. Read the above report on Mazurka to get an idea.

[QUOTE=Kronos25;1213447]I checked out Kashima Tantric massage too (read your blog). Looks very interesting. Any other ones that are comparable?[/QUOTE]Well there are many tantric studios in Berlin. I am more familiar with Kashima for reasons I state on my blog. I think that others will also offer a good session at a similar price. Choosing one is simply a matter of finding one that appeals to you and making a booking. I can say that Silke, who will often answer the phone at Kashima, speaks pretty good English and can answer any questions you might have about the sessions for couples.

AM

In a special issue of Berlin magazine "tipp", I discovered an article about "the sex clubs of Berlin".

I didn't buy the mag but just browsed through the article, but I remember it mentioned the "BAR ROUGE" in Französische Strasse as a place where "gentlemen can meet attractive ladies".

Could somebody please check this out and REPORT?

Thank you.

okay, so i told you about the awful financial [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] i received at mazurka, well it gets worse. well, maybe it's just as bad, but could have been a lot worse.

i had one too many jaegermeisters at the killkenny on the last saturday of august, as my mate was shamed into buying a spontaneous round; he bought jaegers, not beers. damn you berlin and your extra-large shot glasses. anyway, i had to do a disappearing act as that last one killed me. i sat outside for a little while seeing if i could gather myself, to return inside but i knew the game was up. i went for a walk to get air into my lungs. i walked past some street girls and became very tempted. they all seemed to look the same though; tight blond ponytail, white puffa jacket.

i took a fancy to one whose name escapes. she told me that it would be €180 for an hour with covered bj and fuck. grand so, i'll go with that. she linked my arm and we walked for about five minutes to an apartment building. chatting on the way about how prostitution was legal in germany and they paid tax etc. we got on famously laughing and joking all the way, stopping at an atm for partycash. most notably, she was mannerly enough to turn away and de-link my arm as i was entering my pin.

we got to the room that they use for clients, and she then said the payment was up front, but that it was going to be €50 more, because there was only the delux room available. you can tell where this is going can't you? i paid it, and she went to the loo for a minute or so, and said i should be undressed on her return.

she got back and was naked to the waste, wearing what i can only describe as tight white crotchless cowgirl chaps. 'hey hey', i said, 'very sexy, but when are they coming off? '. she said that they don't come off, as it's 'standard' for the girls to keep them on. 'really? ', i said. 'oh yes. we never take these off', she replied. so be it, i'm here now, i thought to myself.

she then told me that i can touch her left breast, but not her right one as it was not well. fake tits btw. riiiiight! okeeeey! not going so well at this point. actually, there was distinct change to a cold business-like approach as she came back into the room. gone were to laughs and jokes.

i was hard enough straight away for the rubber to go on, so she went to work with her mouth in a very machine-like rough manner. balls! i knew i fucked up!

she was suggesting that we do anal for €100 more, and that she tought i was one of the nice guys that she rarely does anal for. i wasn't game at all, as it was such a mechanical engagement thus far. she got on top, still with the talking up of her services. she was on the job, and still talking of money, and this started to really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off, but i tried not to let it show as it would only spoil what little enjoyment i was having. then as we were fucking, i heard what sounded like '€600' being mentioned. hold on a fucking minute here. 'six hundred euro? ', i said. 'right. get the fuck off me, i'm out of here. '

the look of shock on her face was priceless. she couldn't believe that, mid-fuck, someone would just call a halt. i didn't even ask what €600 was for. i told her that she made complete fool of me and she should be ashamed as we were having nice time and she should be happy with the original arrangement. i told her that i was hurt, and she spoiled my night needlessly. i'm talking and getting dressed at this point.

she then tried to turn it round by saying that she opened up to me by offering anal. which never does. and i turned it down. then she put on the poor-mouth by saying she had to pay €50 for the room, and that i spoiled the proceedings. i told her that whe was a fraud, and that she gives all the decent working girls a bad name. i pointed out to her that she knew how much money i took to the room because she was with me at the atm, and then tried to change the deal. i told her that she offered services at €180, then somehow through no fault of mine it had jumped to €230, and that she kept half her clothes on, and had only one functioning boob. all taking place within a ten minute window. i kept on at her that she had me lost in a city i didn't know. 'not my problem', was the reply, as she slammed the main front door.

now if that doesn't teach anyone (me included) for not taking heed to the reports on here about street girls, you deserve to be stung. €230 for ten munites of agro? no thanks!

i'll be back with a report on king george; petronella to the rescue of a crap time.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1213652]It is reported that some of the Hessen clubs (Oase) allow women in with a partner. Artemis' policy is that it does not allow couples. So in Berlin the answer is no.

Strip clubs are not Berlin's strong suit. There are a few but they tend to be expensive and not that good. Read the above report on Mazurka to get an idea.

Well there are many tantric studios in Berlin. I am more familiar with Kashima for reasons I state on my blog. I think that others will also offer a good session at a similar price. Choosing one is simply a matter of finding one that appeals to you and making a booking. I can say that Silke, who will often answer the phone at Kashima, speaks pretty good English and can answer any questions you might have about the sessions for couples.

AM[/QUOTE]I did hear from King George insider that they let a bi-chick in for her birthday, accompanied by hubby.

[QUOTE=Dornstadt; 1213842]Now if that doesn't teach anyone (me included) for not taking heed to the reports on here about street girls, you deserve to be stung. €230 for ten munites of agro? No thanks!

I'll be back with a report on King George; Petronella to the rescue of a crap time.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about the gutting you took but it does serve here as a cautionary tale to anyone else considering such action. Not that any one listens when they have a few in them.

For the record, for €230 you could have easily hired a taxi to Artemis, paid the entry and spent a nice hour in a comfortable room with a beautiful girl who knows the word service. Keep that in mind for your next outing.

AM

Good morning to everyone,

There's anyone knows if this agency ([url]http://www.escort-berlin.net/[/url]) is reliable, the girls are wonderful.

Thank you

[QUOTE=Jerrylee; 1213817]In a special issue of Berlin magazine "tipp", I discovered an article about "the sex clubs of Berlin".

I didn't buy the mag but just browsed through the article, but I remember it mentioned the "BAR ROUGE" in Französische Strasse as a place where "gentlemen can meet attractive ladies".

Could somebody please check this out and REPORT?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]No reports on this place yet on this forum. On the German forums there were a couple from just after the place had opened.

Briefly-it was expensive and the talent while good was not out of this world. This is the sort of place that you are expected to entertain the lady with expensive bottles of champagne prior to and expensive session in an on site room. It is comparable to Bel Ami.

Things may well have improved with regard to girl selection but unless you have a thing for "higher class" ladies, and are willing to pay the price, I think Artemis is a better bet. And there is plenty of intel about Artemis over on that thread.

AM

I tried this escort service and chooses Angelina.

[url]http://www.callgirls4you.de/escort/elite-escort-angelina.html[/url]

For 90 EUR she comes to your hotel room for one hour of fucking. BBBJ is included but not CIM. In this hour you can come more than once. Angelina is a 20 year bulgarian woman. She delivered what she was asked for, but was not into it. BBBJ was quite ok, but she didn't like DATY and doggy style fucking.

Overall good experience. She came on time. You have no hassle to find a club. I upgraded for 10 EUR to DFK.

[QUOTE=Dornstadt;1213893]I did hear from King George insider that they let a bi-chick in for her birthday, accompanied by hubby.[/QUOTE]While the KG is an option I could imagine that a wife or gf, even one who is into such play, might find this place a little rough.

But you never know.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1214057]While the KG is an option I could imagine that a wife or gf, even one who is into such play, might find this place a little rough.

But you never know.

AM[/QUOTE]I had the same initial reaction as you. I know why. You had the same picture in your head of this adventurous wife as I did. Some pretty, educated, well-dressed and liberated lady who frequents trendy and expensive nightspots. The reality however is that she was probably some vile old slag with her yobbo husband and that the working girls at KG represented about 3 steps up the scale from her.

If I was taking a girlfriend for some bi action in Berlin I'd head straight for the top bordelles rather than the FKK scene. And if we really were determined to try out Artemis then I'd my g / f to check in as a hooker and then just 'book her' for the evening and sit together on the beds in the lounge scouring the line-up for a girl to make up a threesome. A pretty attractive idea actually, I'd like to give it a try. I agree with Angus though, KG would not be a favoured contender.

C

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1214126]If I was taking a girlfriend for some bi action in Berlin I'd head straight for the top bordelles rather than the FKK scene. And if we really were determined to try out Artemis then I'd my g / f to check in as a hooker and then just 'book her' for the evening and sit together on the beds in the lounge scouring the line-up for a girl to make up a threesome. A pretty attractive idea actually, I'd like to give it a try.[/QUOTE]Now all you need Charlie is a girlfriend who is agreeable to this game. Easier said than done I'd say.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1214127]Now all you need Charlie is a girlfriend who is agreeable to this game. Easier said than done I'd say.

AM[/QUOTE]I had one last time I was single, she had a g / f of her own throughout our 18 months together and inevitably we occasionally all ended up together. She was up for getting a pro to join us, but in those days I didn't know about the Berlin scene. I'd love to take her there now.

I reckon it wouldn't be impossible to find another. There are some very inquisitive girls out there.

C

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1214128]There are some very inquisitive girls out there.[/QUOTE]So what you are saying is that there might be hope for Angus yet. ;)

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1214017]Sorry to hear about the gutting you took but it does serve here as a cautionary tale to anyone else considering such action. Not that any one listens when they have a few in them.

For the record, for €230 you could have easily hired a taxi to Artemis, paid the entry and spent a nice hour in a comfortable room with a beautiful girl who knows the word service. Keep that in mind for your next outing.

AM[/QUOTE]Or, a half-hour with two hotties! Don't I know it now mate. Live and learn!

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1214126]I had the same initial reaction as you. I know why. You had the same picture in your head of this adventurous wife as I did. Some pretty, educated, well-dressed and liberated lady who frequents trendy and expensive nightspots. The reality however is that she was probably some vile old slag with her yobbo husband and that the working girls at KG represented about 3 steps up the scale from her.

C[/QUOTE]What I heard unprompted, was that she was a very attractive blonde-haired, blue-eyed lady. And it was the KG girl's first time with such a scenario. The birthday girl made the KG girl cum. I've no reason to disbelieve thus far.

King George was an itch that had to be scratched, so off I went after arriving in Berlin on the second last Monday of October. I wasn't expecting much, but the curiosity was to much to ignore. I left it knida late, arriving at about mindnight. Rang the bell, and Lisa welcomed me in. She doesn't have any English, and my German is basic enough, so she fetched Maria from the bar. I already knew the drill from reports here, and Angus' blog, but I went through the ropes anyway.

I try to give a lot of smiley eye-contact as possible, as it puts people at ease and it makes peole trust me somewhat. I like when they seem to have a nervous, smiling double-take of my initial demeanor. Anyway, I asked if I was clear to go, Lisa said, 'ya ya, bitte'. Upon entering, there was two girls at the high table to the left, two against the bar and one further in near the pole. I sat at the bar and I ordered my Vodka and orange-juice, and tried to maintain. The main difference one will notice between a regular brothel / bar scenario and King George is that eyes are not all on you as they normally would be. In fact the ones at the bar didn't even look around. I kinda developed a nice rapport with Maria behind the bar, she smiled every time I looked over and did comedy eyebrow raises.

I couldn't help also but give a big hand-waving Hi when they all looked round eventually. It was recipricated with little unthusiasm. Then I saw a tall dark skinny bird walk from behind me who sat behind at the end of the bar. I assumed this might be the infamous Petronella, as whe didn't really mix.

One thing for sure, is that the vodka was watered down, or maybe some water was vodkaed up, because I wasn't getting any hit at all. I had three vodkas in about ten minutes. A fat one at the bar with her back turned, swang around and tried to make chit-chat, but she had no English so that died a death, but mainly because she was on the heavy side it has to be said. There was a nice looking fuller-figured Amy Winehouse lookalike at the high table opposite the bar, so I went over after I had warmed up. Now, I had noticed that she had an aloof skanky nature about her before I approached, but I thought it might be young girl newbie nerves, but she was a real no-nothing non English-speaking blert afterall, from Romania.

After trying with my little German to make light chat about how she looked like Amy Winehouse, and involving barmaid Maria across the bar in the conversation, who jealously asked who she looked like. I said Cleopatra to great applause, I just threw it out there about a 'Zimmer'. She then made mongo sounds while doing the universal blowjob gesture, as well as the jiggy-jiggy fucking motion at someone behind my back. This is poor bordello ettiquette by anyone's standards, but I said fuck it to myself as we headed for a room.

We both mechanically stripped, as I was looking for the slightest bit off eye-contact, but none. I told that she must be tired, and she might need a back massage to ease the tention, though it was more as a method for getting me hard. She lay on her belly, as I climed on top, and began giving her a shoulder massage. She then stopped me, and motioned for a towel, to which I thought this meant for me to have a shower. I got up and went near the shower, only for her to stomp up off the bed to grab a towel to cover her arse with. Ah ffs! What kind of hooker is suddenly ashamed of showing her arse? Right, on I went until I got stiff. She didn't even give the slightest moan or groan or make-believe that I was pleasuring her. I could see her eyes wandering the room.

On with the show. She then grabbed a rubber lashed it on my knob, and began the oral. You can imagine how crap it was. She then motioned for me to go mish. I gave it some, but she was not into it at all. I stopped for a second to feign concern over her mood, and gently made her smile with my fingertips. She snapped, and gave me a slap on the side of the arm hummphh sound. Right! 'Finito', I shouted. Got out of her, and said it wasn't working. 'Nein, nein. Ficken ficken', said she. 'nein danke', said I as I got up off the bed, immediatley got in the shower. She then just lay on the bed with a face that would turn milk sour. Fuck her, I thought. I'm not being held hostage to this crap.

After getting dressed, I helped her up off the bed in the fashion Soccer players help each other off the grass. 'Friends', I said. And just gave her a peace-offering hug, and motioned for her to kiss my cheek. Ha! She fell for the oldest trick in the book. I turned my face at the last second for a lip on lip peck. She walloped me again on the side of the arm.

We went back to the bar without further commotion. Maria then said she forgot to tell me that I could buy the lady a drink. 'NOT FUCKING HER', I said as loud as I could, to which she seemed to have no surprise as to what my reply would be, and a look of sympathy. The girl in question is named 'Sofia', and you can see on their website doing an un-enthused by-the-numbers pole-dance. By the way, she had never heard of Amy Winehouse. Make of that what you will.

While I waited further, and tried to chat with Maria, but she was too busy cleaning up. There was only one other punter in the house, who was with a girl in a room.

It might be 'All-Inklusive', but that doesn't prepare you for the lack of 'talent', dull atmosphere and crappy Turkish-sounding hip-hop. All of the girls were not one bit nice looking (apart from Sofia to give her her skanky due) , and one was positively ugly; short hair, jam-jar glasses and a limp.

This night needed rescuing and it came in the shape of a tall striking looking bird wearing thong worn with a net body-stocking. She really kept eye-balling me. I mean really. I didn't thing where you look behind you to see if it's you. I was keeping my cool, trying to look vaguely vague with an unthreatening loose smile, and she was really checking me out. She sat at the bar without really engaging with the clatter of witches that stank out the joint, so I went over to her.

'Hi, mein Name ist D, wie heißt du? ', says I. She replied, 'Petronella'. Inside I was laughing so loudly. We began to chat, and I was telling her about the last episode with Sofia. She seemed not to be too surpised by my complaints. Long story short; fuck of the year. Well, best in a long time anyway.

We got on famously, which I put down to her being able to mirror my enthusiasm. We laughed a lot before, during and after the whole. I told her how the other one was embarrassed to shoe her ass. She then got on all four and pushed her's in the air for me to gasp at as a reply. Now, she didn't really look to me a lot like her online photos, she has deffo put on a few, but it's only a little extra flesh but she carries it well and her hair is a little lighter in colour. She was very passionate; DFK, hands all over, and told me all about her first time with a lady the previous week with great detail. 'Tell me more', I said. This made her laugh a lot. She totally got me over the first experience with Sophia.

I hadn't cracked one off in about two weeks in preparation for my second Berlin trip in 6 weeks, so I had a nice when it came time. She was the first girl whom had put a rubber on me with her mouth, and she had it on without any pomp or ceremony. One little flick is all it took.

I did offer to tip her, but she just told me to buy her a piccolo for €25. I just gave the money to her in the room for to do with what she pleased, but fair play to her, she gave the money to Maria for the piccolo, and she drank it all without offering it to me, unlike the tramps in Mazurka.

I'll wind it up by saying the night ended with having just the one experience with Petronella, but what an experience. We chatted at the bar for a while the the clean up was going on, and she is actually a very decent skin. She even put my coat on, and wrapped my scarf around my neck like she cared. What a gal! She asked me to come back the next evening, but I had other plans on how I was going to use my second night. Which was great.

So in conclusion, King George is not somewhere I'd recommend hand on heart. It's not that it's seedy, but just not worth it as the girls are neither any pretty nor game, but I wouldn't knock someone off going if they really wanted to see for themselves. It's just a bit meh! I could have gone up to the other girls if I'd wanted to, but I just couldn't take one for the lads. Sorry, I just couldn't! If it hadn't been for Petronella, it could have been a third stinker for me in Berlin.

One minor gripe I have in general with late brothels in my experience, is letting a taxi-driver hang around the place near end of night. It gives a real impression of routine.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1190024]Hi,

[url]http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Julia.html[/url]

Heartbreakingly beautiful girl, just as fabulous in reality as in her pics. Ex-model, comes from Bayern but in Berlin for the summer whilst doing her studies. Says she's 22 why. O, could easily be true.

Very pleasant and educated girl, friendly, speaks perfect English, easy and relaxed attitude, sexy and skilled in the bedroom. The perfect GF in fact!

Available by appointment only. Base price was 150E for the hour, extras such as kissing and BBBJ made the total up to 190E, so of course I gave her 200. Expensive, but worth it.

Lovely soft kissing, light DFK, prolonged DATY, lovely soft BJ.

Super girl, highly recommended.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Bro Charlie,

She look fabulous. Can you advise on the procedure to make an appointment with her? Does she comes to your hotel or she only does her business at MR?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Tan123; 1214375]Bro Charlie,

She look fabulous. Can you advise on the procedure to make an appointment with her? Does she comes to your hotel or she only does her business at MR?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]1) At the bottom of the web page ([url]http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Julia.html[/url]) , you can see the phone numbers.

I used the Mobile number : Mobil: +49 (0) 176 29 29 86 64

2) If you click on "House Models", you will reach [url]http://www.monrouge.com/house-models.html[/url]

On that page "House Models", you can not see Julia's photo.

If you click on "Escort" you can see Julia's photo.

So, Julia, works as an escort.

The question would rather be : can she come to MR or only to guests' hotel?

So, you have the answer : she comes to guests' hotels (it's the minimum for an "escort") and can work at MR too (but only on appointments).

Of course, if ever you would like to pay with credit cards, I think that it would be better to meet her at MR.

3) [b]However, some days ago, she was not in Berlin. [/b]

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1214437]

3) [b]However, some days ago, she was not in Berlin. [/b][/QUOTE]Oooops.

Thanks Bobo.

She was at the top of my list for my mid November visit. Hope she will be back.

Anyways as some suggested I'll call a couple of days before and fix an appointment, one with her and one with Dea.

Best.

[QUOTE=Dornstadt; 1214232]So in conclusion, King George is not somewhere I'd recommend hand on heart. It's not that it's seedy, but just not worth it as the girls are neither any pretty nor game, but I wouldn't knock someone off going if they really wanted to see for themselves. It's just a bit meh! I could have gone up to the other girls if I'd wanted to, but I just couldn't take one for the lads. Sorry, I just couldn't! If it hadn't been for Petronella, it could have been a third stinker for me in Berlin.

One minor gripe I have in general with late brothels in my experience, is letting a taxi-driver hang around the place near end of night. It gives a real impression of routine.[/QUOTE]I can only agree 100%. We were 4 boys going there on Friday night. Came in late about 1:00 AM. None of the birds could be caracterised as good looking. Finally there was only one, but my mate grabbed her to quickly. I ended up fucking a mediocre girl from Dominican Republic. She was a complete disaster in bed. Refused to take off her top, and did not do doggy style! I mean what's wrong with these girls. None of my mates were content with their girls, even if the girls were more good looking than the one from Dominican Republic.

I guess the flatrate of KG only makes the girls lazy and they don't put an effort in having happy customers. They don't even bother looking at the customers, they were more into playing with there Iphones.

AVOID KING GEORGE

[QUOTE=Sucker17; 1214496]I guess the flatrate of KG only makes the girls lazy and they don't put an effort in having happy customers. They don't even bother looking at the customers, they were more into playing with there Iphones.

AVOID KING GEORGE[/QUOTE]Sorry I can not agree with this at all. Of course do not expect to find at the KG FKK quality girls giving GFE style service. But for what it is the KG does rather well I think. There are numerous reports on this and other boards in which management at the KG demonstrates its' willingness to go the extra distance for a customer. I can recall one report in which a girl who was off for the evening was called in, and showed up, at the request of a guest.

The girls may well be under performing and somewhat listless but you are not exactly paying top dollar for their service are you.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1214502]Sorry I can not agree with this at all. Of course do not expect to find at the KG FKK quality girls giving GFE style service. But for what it is the KG does rather well I think. There are numerous reports on this and other boards in which management at the KG demonstrates its' willingness to go the extra distance for a customer. I can recall one report in which a girl who was off for the evening was called in, and showed up, at the request of a guest.

The girls may well be under performing and somewhat listless but you are not exactly paying top dollar for their service are you.

AM[/QUOTE]Yes you're dead right, you're not paying top-dollar at King George but, if you have an underwhelming experience, you're paying a premium for meh-ness. Part of the whole game is the anticipation, and the nervous breathlessness before gathering yourself to puff out your shest for an evening of 'what could happen next? '. King George under-delivers big time regarding this. You get the distinct feeling that *nothing* will happen.

Sure, you get what you pay for, but if you don't get Petronella (in my admittedly one-off experience) , it's at least €100 down the Swannee, not to mention the arguably worse feeling of being let down.

If I compare the €125 I spent in KG for 20mins, versus the €150 for 45mins I spent at Kamilla Dee, there is no contest if you are trying to spend your hard-earned wisely.

But to be fair, if I compare the €230 fleecing I got from a streetgirl, KG is like Artemis.

On the other hand, sure why *not* try it, it's only €100 (+piccolo) at the end of the day.

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1214437]1) At the bottom of the web page (

[url]http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Julia.html[/url]

) , you can see the phone numbers.

I used the Mobile number : Mobil: +49 (0) 176 29 29 86 64

2) If you click on "House Models", you will reach.

[url]http://www.monrouge.com/house-models.html[/url]

On that page "House Models", you can not see Julia's photo.

If you click on "Escort" you can see Julia's photo.

So, Julia, works as an escort.

The question would rather be : can she come to MR or only to guests' hotel?

So, you have the answer : she comes to guests' hotels (it's the minimum for an "escort") and can work at MR too (but only on appointments).

Of course, if ever you would like to pay with credit cards, I think that it would be better to meet her at MR.

3) [b]However, some days ago, she was not in Berlin. [/b][/QUOTE]Thanks bro Bobo for the enlightenment. I was confused and did not know how the system works in MR. However, I also observed something peculiar. For example under the house model section, Dea only appears when you click the webpage to appear in german but her pic will be gone when you click the english icon. What does this mean? Or could this be only a website error in which they did not update the english version?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1214490]Oooops.

Thanks Bobo.

She was at the top of my list for my mid November visit. Hope she will be back.

Anyways as some suggested I'll call a couple of days before and fix an appointment, one with her and one with Dea.

Best.[/QUOTE]Bro Kimino. Great minds think alike!

[QUOTE=Sucker17; 1214496]I can only agree 100. We were 4 boys going there on Friday night. Came in late about 1:00 AM. None of the birds could be caracterised as good looking. Finally there was only one, but my mate grabbed her to quickly. I ended up fucking a mediocre girl from Dominican Republic. She was a complete disaster in bed. Refused to take off her top, and did not do doggy style! I mean what's wrong with these girls. None of my mates were content with their girls, even if the girls were more good looking than the one from Dominican Republic.

I guess the flatrate of KG only makes the girls lazy and they don't put an effort in having happy customers. They don't even bother looking at the customers, they were more into playing with there Iphones.

AVOID KING GEORGE[/QUOTE]Sometime you can be lucky but most of the time you get what you pay for. Next time try to get in early as the girls are more fresh.

We are planning to visit Berlin in Jan.

My friend would like to try this classy club,

Club Valentino.

[url]http://club-valentino.de[/url]

Anyone have been there? We know there are also Trans / Shemales there, but that only makes it special.

We are also planning to visit

Insomnia.

[url]http://www.insomnia-berlin.de[/url]

Anyone been there recently?

AM the monger guru of Berlin, do you have any comments, thanks.

[QUOTE=Tan123; 1214375]Bro Charlie,

She look fabulous. Can you advise on the procedure to make an appointment with her? Does she comes to your hotel or she only does her business at MR?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Available only at MR and by appointment.

C

[QUOTE=Sucker17;1214496]I guess the flatrate of KG only makes the girls lazy and they don't put an effort in having happy customers.[/QUOTE]Exactly. That sums up the problem with flatrate clubs. Motivation. See my earlier posts on KG.

It may be that a lot of places started out as liberated happy-go-lucky places where German girls could come and have a bit of fun, and maybe earn enough to buy a new skirt as well. That model can work when everybody is basically coming to it with good feelings. But when you have a policy of bringing in Romanian immigrants at the lowest price to cater to drunk tourists, then obviously they are going to have a cynical attitude and they will generally try to "get the better of the deal" by providing the worst service they can.

[QUOTE=Tan123;1214684]For example under the house model section, Dea only appears when you click the webpage to appear in german but her pic will be gone when you click the english icon. What does this mean? Or could this be only a website error in which they did not update the english version?[/QUOTE]I suspect it means that they are not very together with the English version of the web page. Many places are like this and I do not think it has much of a deeper meaning than this.

AM

[QUOTE=AlexBrice; 1209090]Hi Guys,

I am in berlin now and looking for a good shemale / TS escort. Any suggestions?

Alex[/QUOTE]Try here.

Club-valentino. De

Going to get a massage at Kashima. I believe my options are Veronika, Kay and Conny. Any recommendations?

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1214784]Available only at MR and by appointment.

C[/QUOTE]Thanks Bro Charlie 123. Will write my field report after my visit.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1214805]I suspect it means that they are not very together with the English version of the web page. Many places are like this and I do not think it has much of a deeper meaning than this.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks Bro Angus Magee. I also think so. It should only be a technical error in which they did not update both the english and german version.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1214490]Oooops.

Thanks Bobo.

She was at the top of my list for my mid November visit. Hope she will be back.

Anyways as some suggested I'll call a couple of days before and fix an appointment, one with her and one with Dea.

Best.[/QUOTE]I think I did see her today, I had a nice time with Dea and I'm almost sure Julia was sitting on the couch in the living.

I will try to see her tomorrow and I let you know.

By the way; Dea will be only one more week there, she is taking off for vacation (I didn't ask how long).

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1214883]I think I did see her today, I had a nice time with Dea and I'm almost sure Julia was sitting on the couch in the living.

I will try to see her tomorrow and I let you know.

By the way; Dea will be only one more week there, she is taking vacation (I didn't ask how long).[/QUOTE]thanks Dealdo!

I did write to MR today and they told me Dea is leaving on the 15th. Exactly when I'll arrive in Berlin. Tough.

They told me nothing about Julia.

Anyways I'll visit MR and pick up what I find, although I wil try to book Julia.

Any info appreciated.

Ciao.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kronos25;1214827]Going to get a massage at Kashima. I believe my options are Veronika, Kay and Conny. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Hard to say. Veronika is the most experienced of the three. Both Conny & Kay (Kai?) are new. I was at the weekend training of the two so I experienced both but as trainees. Kay I subsequently had a full massage from and I can tell you that she does have a very nice touch.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1214887]Hard to say. Veronika is the most experienced of the three. Both Conny & Kay (Kai?) are new. I was at the weekend training of the two so I experienced both but as trainees. Kay I subsequently had a full massage from and I can tell you that she does have a very nice touch.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks Angus!

Not sure if it matters or not (mostly because I've never done this before) but are Conny adn Kay (Kai) pretty. I saw Veronika's picture and she looks very attractive.

Thanks again for all the help. Really appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Sumart; 1214039]I tried this escort service and chooses Angelina.

[url]http://www.callgirls4you.de/escort/elite-escort-angelina.html[/url]

For 90 EUR she comes to your hotel room for one hour of fucking. BBBJ is included but not CIM. In this hour you can come more than once. Angelina is a 20 year bulgarian woman. She delivered what she was asked for, but was not into it. BBBJ was quite ok, but she didn't like DATY and doggy style fucking.

Overall good experience. She came on time. You have no hassle to find a club. I upgraded for 10 EUR to DFK.[/QUOTE]Looks like a good service if reliable. Monika looked good to me. Have others had good experiences?

[QUOTE=Kronos25; 1214891]Thanks Angus!

Not sure if it matters or not (mostly because I've never done this before) but are Conny adn Kay (Kai) pretty. I saw Veronika's picture and she looks very attractive.

Thanks again for all the help. Really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]God-pretty is very subjective. I found then bot attractive. Of the three I would say Veronika is the most conventionally attractive. Kai (I think this is actually her name) has a sort of athletic look and body type while Conny a girl next door look.

Keep in mind that I was with them on a weekend when they were learning and thus were not at all "made up".

AM

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1214719]We are planning to visit Berlin in Jan.

My friend would like to try this classy club,

Club Valentino.

[url]http://club-valentino.de[/url]

Anyone have been there? We know there are also Trans / Shemales there, but that only makes it special.

We are also planning to visit

Insomnia.

[url]http://www.insomnia-berlin.de[/url]

Anyone been there recently?

AM the monger guru of Berlin, do you have any comments, thanks.[/QUOTE]This Club Valentino is very new and has not even been mentioned on the German forums. I will keep an eye out. As a comment thought-it seems this place has both girls and TVs. Be careful if you go there, unless you are into that.

AM

[QUOTE=Diet Coke;1214926]Looks like a good service if reliable. Monika looked good to me. Have others had good experiences?[/QUOTE]This agency is part of the big Berlin conglomerate that puts up many, many website with the same girls. Charlie does seem to have some success with them. I would remember though that this big agency works on volume not not necessarily customer satisfaction.

In other words, you pay your money, you take your chances.

To give an idea, these are all agencies that advertise the same girls.

[url]http://www.callgirls4you.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.sexy-elfen.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.myescortberlin.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.escortbesuche.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.escortgirlsberlin.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.escort4berlin.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.escortservice-berlin.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.6-escort.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.6escortgirls.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.berlinerescort.com/[/url]

And I am sure that there are a couple others I am missing.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1215026]This Club Valentino is very new and has not even been mentioned on the German forums. I will keep an eye out. As a comment thought-it seems this place has both girls and TVs. Be careful if you go there, unless you are into that.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks AM,

I know, but good warning for others.

I'll take the girls and my friend the TVs / Shemales, LOL.

Nille

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1215115]Thanks AM,

I know, but good warning for others.

I'll take the girls and my friend the TVs / Shemales, LOL.

Nille[/QUOTE]Well a couple of those girls ( the real ones ;)) do look good. I look forward to a report.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1215157]Well a couple of those girls (the real ones.) do look good. I look forward to a report.

AM[/QUOTE]Ok, I'll try to get a report of the TVs / Shemales from my friend, I'm sure are you dying to read about that.

Nille

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1214884]thanks Dealdo!

I did write to MR today and they told me Dea is leaving on the 15th. Exactly when I'll arrive in Berlin. Tough.

They told me nothing about Julia.

Anyways I'll visit MR and pick up what I find, although I wil try to book Julia.

Any info appreciated.

Ciao.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Yo Kimino, I did go today, They told me that your Julia took off about a week ago, they have no idea if she is comming back.

I saw the parade and she wasn't there, but the girl from yesterday either, so go figure, They may have her only reserved for VIPs or she is gone for good, if you are a good client ask for her and help me to hook her up too. Send me a PM with the "password" if she still around.

Well, for me Dea is the best provider there, but I need to go to see the night shift, they told me they have new faces after 8:00 pm. Maybe tomorrow because I have a date tonight, I don't think will be today.

Ok, now talking about another good one you really have to see.

Sofi from Royal, she is an excelent girl, passion and easy caracter, body about the same as Dea, very slim but in good shape. She works day shift.

I was also with Rosaline, She is OK, cute German girl. 22 yrs, some baby fat, very inexperienced, for those who are into this, for me was just OK I'm not to much into teaching sex lessons, but she is super nice.

Bad point there is the madame who runs the place, she is not that nice, she trys but is not patient at all with us, she hates to show again any girl, I wanted to see againg TWO girls to make my mind and she refused very harshly, She prefers to let you go than show you again any girl. I think she needs to learn a little more about the foreing customs, most of the countries I have been at, they never had any inconvenience to show all the girls back. What is the deal with this lady?

Anyways. Good luck guys and good hunting.

Ciao.

DeAldo

Charlie, Angus, Rocketboy, thank you very much for your advice! I decided to follow it and went to Artemis, you will find my review in FKK section.

[QUOTE=Niby Lu;1213088]I took the pretty girl to a room. Both her English and her service were surprisingly good, after reading a few reviews here I was kinda scared she'll just lie down and do nothing, but she was quite eager to please, almost passionate. No kissing and covered BJ, though. Unfortunately, I couldn't find her pics on KG website, and I'm really not sure what her name was. Was it Roberta? Not sure, sorry. I always forget names. Brunette, Romanian, slim, amazing butt.[/QUOTE]Actually, I think it was Roxanne.

Now another question. Surprisingly, search for "Berlin deepthroat" did not yield many results in "Germany" and "Germany FKK" forums. Is there something wrong with my search-fu, or is this particular service not very sought-after in Germany? Seriously though, if you have any advice on a deepthroat pro in Berlin, I'd be grateful.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1215030]This agency is part of the big Berlin conglomerate that puts up many, many website with the same girls. Charlie does seem to have some success with them. I would remember though that this big agency works on volume not not necessarily customer satisfaction.

In other words, you pay your money, you take your chances.

To give an idea, these are all agencies that advertise the same girls.

[url]http://www.callgirls4you.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.sexy-elfen.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.myescortberlin.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.escortbesuche.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.escortgirlsberlin.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.escort4berlin.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.escortservice-berlin.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.6-escort.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.6escortgirls.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.berlinerescort.com/[/url]

And I am sure that there are a couple others I am missing.

AM[/QUOTE]I do enjoy looking at the pictures. Some have English translations and for some I use google translate. I might TOFTT when I visit in April. One site listing extras included:

Kaviar: 40 €

What is that?

[QUOTE=Diet Coke; 1215220]Kaviar: 40 €

What is that?[/QUOTE]You will be sorry you asked. Kaviar is known in English as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord137][CodeWord137][/url]. You know, being shit on.

Its' a German thing I think.

AM

[QUOTE=Dealdo;1215196]Yo Kimino, I did go today, They told me that your Julia took off about a week ago, they have no idea if she is comming back.[/QUOTE]Ciao Dealdo!

That's sad! Both Dea and Julia won't be there when I'm in Berlin (unless Julia comes back). I've never been to Monrouge. I was thinking to drop in just after arriving in Berlin, around 13:00, because it's very close to my hotel.

When you where there, how many girls did show up? At what time did you go? Are the girls the same ones on the site? Pardon for all the questions but I must say that the only ones that attracts me apart from the misisng ones are Lilly, Monica and Sybel.

I better call before I go.

[QUOTE=Dealdo;1215196]Bad point there is the madame who runs the place, she is not that nice, she trys but is not patient at all with us, she hates to show again any girl, I wanted to see againg TWO girls to make my mind and she refused very harshly, She prefers to let you go than show you again any girl.[/QUOTE]I've only seen her twice and she wasn't very friendly, but looks like she just barks, at the end she did her job.

If you go at the second floor though, there's another madame. A young black girl, extremely friendly and gentle. I don't know how things work there but it looks like one lady takes care of the 4th floor (or 3rd) and the other one stays at the second.

I tryed, Valerie (very nice) , Mikka (good service but not an optiflick) and Jolien (nice).

I must make up my mind as to where to go Tuesday around 13:00 (or even earlier). Either I make some phonecall or I just drop in at Royal and for sure I won't be disappointed.

I'l be at A in the evening in case you want to meet.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Dealdo; 1215196]Yo Kimino, I did go today, They told me that your Julia took off about a week ago, they have no idea if she is comming back.

DeAldo[/QUOTE]Yes, I wrote to MR and they confirmed that Julia is not available. So sad.

Are there any bthels that have bars in them? So you can have a drink and check things out. Instead of the line up thing.

Bar Rouge seems to. Any info on this place?

Mon Rouge?

Any help is appreciate.

K

[QUOTE=Kronos25; 1215299]Are there any bthels that have bars in them? So you can have a drink and check things out. Instead of the line up thing.

Bar Rouge seems to. Any info on this place?

Mon Rouge?

Any help is appreciate.

K[/QUOTE]MR does have a small bar, as does the small bordello L'Amour 2A. Trouble is that as far as I could tell the girls do not really hang out there looking to meet customers. It is more like you go, have a drink, then do the line up thing. At least this is the way it worked when I went to try this approach.

There is also a small place called La Folie which is essentially a small FKK style bar. La Folie though has fallen on hard times and I have not read a good report out of there in a number of years.

You will also find a number of small bar / bordellos in the club section of Rotlichtadressen. Up to date info on these places is hard to come by, at least on the English forums. A couple that look good to me. (but not visited by me)

[url]http://www.club-59.de/gallery.php[/url]

[url]http://rotlichtadressen.de/Setcards/candys/index.html[/url]

L'Amour.

[url]http://www.lamour2a.de/index.php?id=ambiente&lang=de#[/url]

La Folie.

[url]http://www.la-folie.de/index.php?section=home&l=de[/url]

There are some reviews of La Folie in the thread if you search.

AM

Hi!

I just joined, read the FAQ and tried searching for this in the forum but couldn't find any info-

Am looking for two very hot girls to come to my hotel room this sat during the day so I can tick "awesome FFM threesome" off my bucket list.

Age mid20s, Budget 700 eur max.

Searching the net I did find this:

[url]http://www.escort-desire.de/duo-escortservice-berlin/duo-escortservice-berlin-kelly-brittany.htm[/url]

Is this agency reputable?

Any other advice? Have never mongered before, prob won't take it up as a long term hobby I'm afraid.

Tx!

Hi!

I just registered, and have read the FAQ and as many posts as I can without falling into the canal (am reading on my phone while I walk to work). Through searching the forum I haven't found any info along these lines so am going to pose the question to you:

I want two hot girls to come to my hotel room this Saturday for 1 or 2 hours, so that I can tick "fantastic FFM threesome" off my bucket list (well I'm only 34)

Age mid 20s, budget 700eur max.

Now I did find this on the net.

[url]http://www.escort-desire.de/duo-escortservice-berlin/duo-escortservice-berlin-kelly-brittany.htm[/url]

Is the agency reputable?

Haven't mongered before and prob won't make a hobby of it I'm afraid.

Any advice / suggestions?

Tx!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1215397]MR does have a small bar, as does the small bordello L'Amour 2A. Trouble is that as far as I could tell the girls do not really hang out there looking to meet customers. It is more like you go, have a drink, then do the line up thing. At least this is the way it worked when I went to try this approach.

There is also a small place called La Folie which is essentially a small FKK style bar. La Folie though has fallen on hard times and I have not read a good report out of there in a number of years.

You will also find a number of small bar / bordellos in the club section of Rotlichtadressen. Up to date info on these places is hard to come by, at least on the English forums. A couple that look good to me. (but not visited by me)

[url]http://www.club-59.de/gallery.php[/url]

[url]http://rotlichtadressen.de/Setcards/candys/index.html[/url]

L'Amour.

[url]http://www.lamour2a.de/index.php?id=ambiente&lang=de#[/url]

La Folie.

[url]http://www.la-folie.de/index.php?section=home&l=de[/url]

There are some reviews of La Folie in the thread if you search.

AM[/QUOTE]Yes Mr Angus Magu: As usual you are right.

MRs bar is kind of a chill out spot before the parade, but also dependes of the time, if you are lucky you get there in the right time when the girls are resting, they congregate in the bar, I was there an evening and I had a real nice time with them, Kinino you will like this place for sure, everybody is friendly and not pushy at all, they treat you real good, girls are just like the pics, (with the make up and % of photoshop of course, nothing drastical) I saw Monika, Dea, Jessica and some other girls that don't have pics online, They are cute and super nice, for those latin girls lovers I would say that Jessica is a nock out girl, a ball of energy and passion.

BUt if somebody really wants to have some bar presession with the girls the best way is to invite them a drink or a bottle to share.

Kimino I'll answer all your questions later on let me just came back.

And thanks for all the tips.

I will report the news later.

[QUOTE=MikeNow1000; 1215436]Hi!

I just registered, and have read the FAQ and as many posts as I can without falling into the canal (am reading on my phone while I walk to work). Through searching the forum I haven't found any info along these lines so am going to pose the question to you:

I want two hot girls to come to my hotel room this Saturday for 1 or 2 hours, so that I can tick "fantastic FFM threesome" off my bucket list (well I'm only 34)

Age mid 20s, budget 700eur max.

Now I did find this on the net.

[url]http://www.escort-desire.de/duo-escortservice-berlin/duo-escortservice-berlin-kelly-brittany.htm[/url]

Is the agency reputable?

Haven't mongered before and prob won't make a hobby of it I'm afraid.

Any advice / suggestions?

Tx![/QUOTE]Am no expert, but they look awsum.

Maybe these girls still play. Dunno, might be worth a phone-call;

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/alicia.html[/url]

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/mianic-e.htm[/url]

Maybe there's a report on them if you do a thread-search.

Have fun.

C.

[QUOTE=MikeNow1000; 1215436]I want two hot girls to come to my hotel room this Saturday for 1 or 2 hours, so that I can tick "fantastic FFM threesome" off my bucket list (well I'm only 34)

Haven't mongered before and prob won't make a hobby of it I'm afraid. Any advice / suggestions?

Tx![/QUOTE]Mike- I dunno, I looked at the link you posted and given what is going down in Berlin at any moment, these two don't look (to my admittedly jaded taste) anything all that special. You could find the same or a lot better for half the price as any of the better Berlin bordellos, or even Artemis. There are many duos offered in all.

Charlie123 who is one of the local masters of take out / eat in might weigh in if the hotel room thing is a deal breaker. You could ask him here.

But,

since you say you have not mongered before, I actually think you'd be better off at a good bordello and even Artemis for the first time. With that under your belt, you could go on to Phase 2.

It is difficult to describe how to manage some of the strangeness, and how to choose a good partner vs some starfish til you've gone through it. The big drawback with hotel escort is that you have really no chance to talk and look beforehand. You can of course get lucky and it could be great. But I think it's risky, in a city you may not know well, in a language that may not be so well understood, etc. Getting the chemistry right with just 1 woman in this situation takes a little practice. To get it right with a duo where presumably you want some thing more than just a badly acted lesbo show, would take a little time to suss out the situation. Most paid for duos lack any semblance of authenticity-the ISG forums are littered with such stories. Here I think being able to hang for hours at Artemis, interview perspective duos, talk with them both to be sure they understand and will deliver what you seek, see how the vibe feels, might be a decisive advantage. There are to be sure a fair number of bullshit duos on offer there. But with the time to talk, and observe how the girls are with each other, it will be pretty obvious.

Now there are some people, particularly those who use Apple computers, who might in their Fanbois way- (though note I am not mentioning names here) argue that a newbee is in too delicate a condition to withstand all the stimuli and women pushing themselves upon you. This may be true for some but really, such concerns are massively overblown. You seem more than capable of handling it. I actually think Artemis is a great place to monger for the first time-safe, clean, lots of choices. You have lots of comrades whom you can ask about this or that, or even about particular women they've just been with. You have tons of time, you can interview candidate tag teams, etc. The economics are rather compelling. You could have a single session with some hotty, then your duo, a meal, a sauna, a swim, a massage, and you would still have change left vs. The agency option you suggested. If you want to blow your whole budget. Well, that would open up all sorts of possibilities. You could hit the champagne bottles, get one of the VIP rooms, etc. Plus the huge bordello scene is surely worth a bucket list line item.

So if the hotel room thing is essential, I think Charlie is your man. If not, spend about 8 hours at Artemis. One word of caution-you say this won't become a habit. Well, we shall see. Many have tried to quit, but just when they thought they were out, they get pulled back in. :cool:

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1215632]since you say you have not mongered before, I actually think you'd be better off at a good bordello and even Artemis for the first time. :cool:[/QUOTE]Thanks, that does make sense. I hadn't realised duo might be arrangeable at a place like Artemis

[QUOTE=MikeNow1000;1215694]Thanks, that does make sense. I hadn't realised duo might be arrangeable at a place like Artemis[/QUOTE]If you do go the bordello route, Saturdays can be a bit leaner than during the week, and surely better in the afternoon vs evening. In general bordellos better during the week. Just a different market.

In Artemis, it is almost the opposite. Sat afternoon will be very slow, then at full strength with lots of choices starting around 20:00. For what you want, the freshness of the earlier part of the evening say before 22:00 is another issue - you will do better before the girls have been with 5 priors. So factor all that in so you maximize your odds.

Good luck-and remember take it slow, don´t haul in the first fish that hops out of the water, and talk it through first so all expectations, on both sides are clear. 10-30 min of chit chat very normal in Artemis before committing to anything. That subject has been covered ad nauseum on the Forum. Obviously a taste thing but if blond Jenna (huge bolt ons, German engineering) or blond Marketa petit shapely Czech, or dark-haired Natalie, or Shiva, or Nina (who reportedly will not be around) are there, they have amigos and they get consistently good reviews. Make sure the vibe is good and if there are any doubts, walk. That´s the toughest part of being a newbee.

Whatever you decide, just please report back here (or on the Artemis page) so the Forum knowledge base grows.

Hi,

There is a count down counter on van kampen's main page counting down towards 1st of December.

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/index_2.html[/url]

I can't find any information about any event happening that night.

Anyone know anything about it?

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1215229]Ciao Dealdo!

That's sad! Both Dea and Julia won't be there when I'm in Berlin (unless Julia comes back). I've never been to Monrouge. I was thinking to drop in just after arriving in Berlin, around 13:00, because it's very close to my hotel.

When you where there, how many girls did show up? At what time did you go? Are the girls the same ones on the site? Pardon for all the questions but I must say that the only ones that attracts me apart from the misisng ones are Lilly, Monica and Sybel.

I better call before I go.

I've only seen her twice and she wasn't very friendly, but looks like she just barks, at the end she did her job.

If you go at the second floor though, there's another madame. A young black girl, extremely friendly and gentle. I don't know how things work there but it looks like one lady takes care of the 4th floor (or 3rd) and the other one stays at the second.

I tryed, Valerie (very nice) , Mikka (good service but not an optiflick) and Jolien (nice).

I must make up my mind as to where to go Tuesday around 13:00 (or even earlier). Either I make some phonecall or I just drop in at Royal and for sure I won't be disappointed.

I'l be at A in the evening in case you want to meet.

Ciao[/QUOTE]Well if you are close to MR just drop by and see what you can find, there are so many girls in and out there that are not regulars, I have seen some cuties, but had no time to re check. I want to meet Ilona, very cute Siberian girl. Works after 8 pm if somebody can go today.

I have some more news but I'm in a hurry now, I will post later or tomorrow. I did a long report and the fricking internet felt down. Grrr, well I will get in touch, I will go back to Artemis today and seee if I can hook this girl that was impossible yesterday.

By the way Kimino, I have to be in St Petesburg for some days to see a gorgeus girl. Won't be able to mongering, she would cut my balls off LOL. Kind of in a sweet prission. Noting to feel bad about though. I will be back next Saturday, if you still in the city would be awesome to meet and go to Artemis for the grand finale.

Talk to you guys soon.

I'm sorry to ask the same question again, but I'm assuming the first one went unnoticed cause it was buried under senior members replies by the time it was approved.

Is there a deepthroat pro in Berlin? Would be best if she worked in Artemis, but if not, anywhere in Berlin? Searching for "deepthroat berlin" gives like 4 results.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Tan123;1215252]Yes, I wrote to MR and they confirmed that Julia is not available. So sad.[/QUOTE]Sad news again. Got reply from MR. Dea will be on holidays starting on 11 Nov to 1 Dec. Guess I will have to give this place a miss.

[QUOTE=Niby Lu; 1215877]I'm sorry to ask the same question again, but I'm assuming the first one went unnoticed cause it was buried under senior members replies by the time it was approved.

Is there a deepthroat pro in Berlin? Would be best if she worked in Artemis, but if not, anywhere in Berlin? Searching for "deepthroat berlin" gives like 4 results.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Niby, Have no idea, I know a couple BJ fricks in Artemis, they just LOVE to do it. My gess is they won't have a problem doing the DT especially if you are not enormous.

Look for Kimi, Hilary and Maya. At least with me they where insane. Loved it, Talk to them and ask them before the session. Just be carefull with Maya and Kimi at the sex action, if they are tired or in a rush the service can not be that great.

[QUOTE=Tan123;1215909]Sad news again. Got reply from MR. Dea will be on holidays starting on 11 Nov to 1 Dec. Guess I will have to give this place a miss.[/QUOTE]Well, I knew that Dea would work until Friday forgot to tell you guys, But I wouldn't give up on this site, there are more pretty girls there, many don't have pics on the page. Because is hard to keep track with the girls 'taht are not "permanent" they come and go as usual. I will go tomorrow almost sure to have a brake from Artemis and wil update. I really want to see Ilona. We'll see.

Now I have to sleep some. I hope have time tomorrow to report. I just got here from Artemis and they killed this poor human. Man I didn't know Polish girls where that hot uffffffff

[QUOTE=Niby Lu; 1215877]s there a deepthroat pro in Berlin? Would be best if she worked in Artemis, but if not, anywhere in Berlin? Searching for "deepthroat berlin" gives like 4 results.

Thanks![/QUOTE]The Deep throat queen at Artemis is Conchetta. Sge works regularly ae Artemis but not all he time.

AM

[QUOTE=Shah Khan; 1215830]Hi,

There is a count down counter on van kampen's main page counting down towards 1st of December.

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/index_2.html[/url]

I can't find any information about any event happening that night.

Anyone know anything about it?[/QUOTE]That could be something to do with their advent promotion which they do every year. I am really not sure how it works though. It does involve someone getting a free session, That is about all I could figure out. The start of advent this year would be on Dec. 4th I think.

AM

Hey guys! I will be arriving to Berlin this Sunday. This will be my first time in Berlin.

Unfortunatelly, I don't have a lot of money and I am looking for the cheapest places where you can score something female.

Where I live "The street" is the cheapest? Is it the same thing in Berlin because I saw that you mostly talk about the clubs. Can someone please write down the adresses of the places that street working girls ordinate at and approximately how much they charge. Also, I will be only able to go mongering during daytime so it will be preferable if the place is in action during the day.

Thanks in advance to everyone!

Duka

[QUOTE=DukaBG; 1216166]Hey guys! I will be arriving to Berlin this Sunday. This will be my first time in Berlin.

Unfortunatelly, I don't have a lot of money and I am looking for the cheapest places where you can score something female.

Where I live "The street" is the cheapest? Is it the same thing in Berlin because I saw that you mostly talk about the clubs. Can someone please write down the adresses of the places that street working girls ordinate at and approximately how much they charge. Also, I will be only able to go mongering during daytime so it will be preferable if the place is in action during the day.

Thanks in advance to everyone!

Duka[/QUOTE]While there is some pretty cheap street action in Berlin I do not recommend it to a person freshly arrived in Berlin. You can easily be seen as an obvious target as a tourist and thus will not necessarily get away with paying rock bottom prices as the Germans do. In any street action, any where in the world really, there is a learning curve to consider. But if you are confident in your own abilities then you can try looking on the streets around Bülowstr. In Schöneberg.

[url]http://g.co/maps/bnja3[/url]

You should pay around €40 for sex and maybe €10 for a room at a nearby flop house (The Steinmetz). So the who thing will cost you around €50, maybe a bit cheaper if you can negotiate or if you will settle for a BJ in the bushes. I myself am not that knowledgeable of exact prices and how it all works. That you will have to figure for yourself.

But I might ad that you can easily get a decent session in a lesser bordello for this money and have a way better chance of success, not to mention not being ripped off. See my blog, the Berlin Scene Lower end for details, adresses and web links.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/[/url]

You should also consider reading the thread here which I get the feeling you have not done. There are plenty of tips and recommendations for the less expensive side of the Berlin sex scene.

AM

P.S. Whatever you do stay away from Oranienburgerstr. street scene. See the report from last week in this thread to see why.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1216024]The Deep throat queen at Artemis is Conchetta. Sge works regularly ae Artemis but not all he time.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks! Could you describe her so it's easier for me to find her? Just don't say: "She's that pretty naked girl", cause that wouldn't help much.