General Reports

Went to Wan Chai last night after LKF. Started of few drinks in Spicy Fingers and then popped into RockSchool. Band really is fantastic but much as I like Rock, there is a limit to how much I can take before getting bored. Still a nice place.

Then went to Trafik. Not sure what time I git there but it was busier then last Friday although still quiet. Then, I dunno what happened or what time it was but suddenly it was absolutely heaving. Probably around midnight.

Colombians were back and some very pretty pinoys and thai's. Was absolutely fantastic. Got chatting to a very pretty pinoy bought few drinks and had a great time with her just chatting and on the dance floor. Took her back. Brilliant. She's still here. Sleeping (it's 12.30PM).

Looks like word is out that Traffik has reinstated the lady drinks. Brilliant. Much prefer it to N2 or Laguna (actually I can't stand Laguna. Girls are so so and the place is grim and unfriendly).

Fenwick is dead but Traffik is back. Long may it last.

About 2 weeks ago I was on the way to the Fuji Bldg when I saw two police vans and about 8 officers out front. They were going into the Fuji Building. I was about to split but then I figured, well maybe I can see what's going on and report it here.

I asked an officer who said they were investigating reports of a loansharking operation in the building. Could have been a lie, maybe they were really busting illegal immigrant WGs. I hung back and had a drink across the street until the police officers left, then went in and went about my business.

Anyone have additional info?

Was at 37D recently. When I was taken to my room I specifically asked not to be shown any fat girls. The first lineup they brought me was not fat, but none of them were really thin either. I said no, and the mamasan said "good service!" I said NO. mamasan said I'd have to wait 10 minutes.

I said ok and 10 minutes later mamasan brought another girl, just one. She was thin and okay looking. Her name was TeenYii. She was okay but when we got showering and got to business I realized that she didn't have a great attitude. She was a whiner and sort of a slapper and although I think she intended it to be playful, it was just more annoying than anything. I told her to stop. She didn't want to DFK which I've never been refused by a 37D girl. She finally relented though she seemed unhappy about it. She didn't seem enthusiastic about anything. After I DATY I moved in for more DFK and she flat refused. I got pissed and I really considered taking her down and complaining before even finishing and asking for another girl, but that would stretch the limits of my Chinese, plus I didn't know how they'd take it after I'd already been up there 20 minutes.

So I finished the deed in a very routine manner, told her I did not like her at all, and after we went downstairs and the mamasan asked me how she was I mentioned that she was a whiner and didn't provide good service. She said "next time better, ok, see you soon!" Yeah sure ok.

Whatever you do, do not see TeenYi.

I normally don't write up my 37D experiences unless there's really something worth mentioning because the experience is very standard there. But I notice that the quality of service and looks of the girls are slipping lately. Maybe I'm just on a bad run?

Among 37D regulars, are you noticing the same thing?

Also where in SSP are these Thais and how much are we paying for them?

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

[QUOTE=Mombasa123]

Fenwick is dead but Traffik is back. Long may it last.[/QUOTE]


Not so sure. Word on the beat is that Fenwicks will be open again soon then by by trafik

[QUOTE=Akka76]Not so sure. Word on the beat is that Fenwicks will be open again soon then by by trafik[/QUOTE]I heard that too - but if it happens, will be in new location - the original Fenwick site is still up for lease - the whole block is empty apart from Pacific Coffee. The landlord was (and maybe still is) asking crazy rentals (600K HKD pm).

Will ask Traffik owner next time I'm there. Wouldn't hold your breath tho.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Among 37D regulars, are you noticing the same thing?
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Yes, I noticed this too. The last few line-ups I've had have been a dismal choice (no choice at all, really) with K-Pressure-standard older and larger girls... not 37D's usual quality at all. I too find that service is slipping - less DFK, no anal at all - and some of the girls would be happy to just soap you in the shower for 40 minutes without doing any real work.

Time to start looking for a new place, I think!

[QUOTE=Idler31]Yes, I noticed this too. The last few line-ups I've had have been a dismal choice (no choice at all, really) with K-Pressure-standard older and larger girls... not 37D's usual quality at all. I too find that service is slipping - less DFK, no anal at all - and some of the girls would be happy to just soap you in the shower for 40 minutes without doing any real work.

Time to start looking for a new place, I think![/QUOTE]What about the Yellow Signs? Don't they usually have younger, more attractive girls? Granted the facilities likely won't be as nice as 37D, but I'd rather shag a hot girl in a shitty room than an ugly girl in nice room.

[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]This is not entirely true. The Octopus card is fully refundable AFTER 90 days. Otherwise you will lose 50HKD.

This policy was changed once all the mainland Chinese tourists started flooding into Hong Kong. Smart for the Octopus people.[/QUOTE]The Octopus site FAQ [url]http://www.Octopus.com.hk[/url] still says that the deposit is refundable at any time.

[QUOTE=Gren62]What about the Yellow Signs? Don't they usually have younger, more attractive girls? Granted the facilities likely won't be as nice as 37D, but I'd rather shag a hot girl in a shitty room than an ugly girl in nice room.[/QUOTE]

This is true to a point but also in YS and most 141s you won't get DFK, won't get BBBJ and anal is pretty much out of the question.

I went to 37D again today. Had to wait in lobby for 10 min as even the rooms were all full! Waited in room for another 10 min. Was brought one girl instead of a lineup. I had warned the mamasan before that I wanted a thin, young good looking girl not one of the ones they've been bringing me lately. Fortunately the one girl they brought was pretty good. But nothing to write home about, decent service but would not repeat. Her name was Mei Tzee.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]This is true to a point but also in YS and most 141s you won't get DFK, won't get BBBJ and anal is pretty much out of the question.[/QUOTE]Not so sure .. all of the YS places I've been to all offer BBBJ and anal is usually a question of asking beforehand (sorry, I usually don't DFK - especially if she's been giving other people BBBJ's!) and AR is usually normal as well. Try the ones up by PE MTR station - I think it is Exit C and around $370 for 45 minutes including a scrub in the shower, BBBJ in the shower, more on the bed and then multiple positions. YMMV

[QUOTE=Basah]Not so sure .. all of the YS places I've been to all offer BBBJ and anal is usually a question of asking beforehand (sorry, I usually don't DFK - especially if she's been giving other people BBBJ's!) and AR is usually normal as well. Try the ones up by PE MTR station - I think it is Exit C and around $370 for 45 minutes including a scrub in the shower, BBBJ in the shower, more on the bed and then multiple positions. YMMV[/QUOTE]
I stayed at the Metropark Hotel (Mongkok) recently and one of the Prince Edward MTR exits was right across the street. Are the Yellow Signs near the hotel?

[QUOTE=Basah]Not so sure .. all of the YS places I've been to all offer BBBJ and anal is usually a question of asking beforehand (sorry, I usually don't DFK - especially if she's been giving other people BBBJ's!) and AR is usually normal as well. Try the ones up by PE MTR station - I think it is Exit C and around $370 for 45 minutes including a scrub in the shower, BBBJ in the shower, more on the bed and then multiple positions. YMMV[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info, will definitely try this.

[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]This is not entirely true. The Octopus card is fully refundable AFTER 90 days. Otherwise you will lose 50HKD.

This policy was changed once all the mainland Chinese tourists started flooding into Hong Kong. Smart for the Octopus people.

Still it is a good value and very convenient to use the Octopus. Keep the card as a souvenir and use it on your next trip to Hong Kong. Most convenience stores and fast food outlets accept the Octopus card too.

There are some special tourist packages including airport express tickets and single or 3day unlimited travel transportation cards available. It is still hard to spend HKD55 on the MTR in any one day so the tourist cards are not that cheap.

You can visit the MTR website at: [url]http://www.mtr.com.hk/eng/homepage/cust_index.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Actually it is only HK$7.00 and not $50 - as per the web site you refer to

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You may return and obtain a refund for a normally functioning Octopus Card at any Customer Service Centre. To be eligible for a refund, the returned card must be in good condition and have a remaining value not exceeding HK$500. If not, your card will be sent to Octopus Cards Limited for further handling. If returning an Octopus Card within three months of its issue date, you will be required to pay a refund handling fee of HK$7.

A refund handling fee of HK$10 will be charged if you return a Personalised Octopus Card. This handling fee will be waived if your card was issued before 1 Nov 2004.

Refunds will not be offered for "Sold" type Octopus Cards.

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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Actually it is only HK$7.00 and not $50 - as per the web site you refer to[/QUOTE]SEAJOE,

The Octopus card is the greatest thing since slice bread.

I wish they have this here in the US.

They told me a few yr ago it will be accept at the Shenzhen Transit System soon.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Gren62]I stayed at the Metropark Hotel (Mongkok) recently and one of the Prince Edward MTR exits was right across the street. Are the Yellow Signs near the hotel?[/QUOTE]Yes. Walk from the Hotel towards the MTR station, crossing at the traffic light there. Instead of bearing right towards the station, continue straight up the street ahead of you. There are two about 2/3'rds of the way down the street, the first one being better. There is also one back down the same street prior to crossing, by the money changer, though they are suspicious of gwei's and the women are a bit older.

went to ne makati recently to look for a pick up. lots of girls. not too much pressure for lady drinks unless you talked to them for a while. big variety of girls..phillipines, thailand, china, vietnam. many 7-8s and a few 4-5s. decent band, beers are 50-60hkd. get there early or hard to find a seat.

i found several thai girls i liked but they wanted crazy prices 2-3k hkd for lt, one thai wouldn't go for lt and had some lame excuse. thais are generally cheaper, not more expensive. i gave up and chatted to some chinese, flippere and viets. found a viet i liked and she offered 1.5k for lt. i smiled and walked off. she came up to me in a few minutes and said $1k + 100hkd taxi. i agreed. she was about a 7.

back to the hotel. no problems. we showered separately. she had a very vice body, firm ass and tits, flat hard tummy, beautiful. she was not shy. lots of kissing and foreplay. her bbbj was weak. i daty and she got wet and while we were 69, she started rimming me...very unusual for a pickup or a viet. nice bonus. finally went cg and poopped in miss. went to sleep. in the morning i could not get her up. started to kiss her and caress her and eventually she reasched over and pulled out a condom and i banged her and came quickly. no bj, no foreplay, no nothing. but good enough. i paid her and threw in 100hkd tip and she was happy. so total damage 1200hkd for all night, 2 pops, nice body.

eb

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]SEAJOE,

The Octopus card is the greatest thing since slice bread.

I wish they have this here in the US.

They told me a few yr ago it will be accept at the Shenzhen Transit System soon.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Best thing since sliced bread???!!! Boy, you must really like it huh?!

I've already used it at the Cafe de Corral at the Luohu commercial centre - and yes, I think I recall somewhere that it was going to be in more general use in Shenzhen as a start - a precursor to it being marketed/used in the whole of China?? Hey, wouldn't it be something if we can use our Octopus card to pay for mongering?!

Pity that its a non-listed company owned by the major transport operators in HKG and thus I cannot buy the stock.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Best thing since sliced bread???!!! Boy, you must really like it huh?!

I've already used it at the Cafe de Corral at the Luohu commercial centre - and yes, I think I recall somewhere that it was going to be in more general use in Shenzhen as a start - a precursor to it being marketed/used in the whole of China?? Hey, wouldn't it be something if we can use our Octopus card to pay for mongering?!

Pity that its a non-listed company owned by the major transport operators in HKG and thus I cannot buy the stock.

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Seaj,

Come on uncle Joe you eat at cafe de corral, is like me going to China and eat at Mcdonald, if you can p4p with the Octopus card that will be taxed and price will go up, but the girl cannot say that you give her a fake bill.

Fast eddie 48

After LKF, went to Spicy Fingers inWan Chai in Friday with friends (boyz and girls). Sat outside having a generally good relaxed time. Around 2.30Am people started leaving. Just me and an Aussie friend still hanging around. Went to JB's, Amazonia etc. We got split up somehow but since it was quite late by the time decided to go N2 on my own. Got stopped by bouncers who called the manager. Little Chinese rat came up, took one look at me (admittedly, I was in T-shirt and jeans not my usual smart business clothes), and pointed to the cover charge sheet. Told him to fck off and walked away. The usual Indian thing. But, is the first time for ages they have stopped me. New bouncers.

Hell, I spend thousands when I hit the bars. Next time, I'll take my credit card statement, show the little cu*nt how much I have spent in there recently and see what happens. Or will go with my white friends, call him up and they'll have a word. In hid site should have called up my aussie mate who was prob still around.

Pisses me off no end.

BTW, Traffik's new drinks policy is having a limited success. They've stopped the shots and doing this juice thing which the girls don'tlike because it makes them bloated. So still not as busy as used to be.

What's the quality like at 8 Mong Kok recently? I'm planning a visit to Hong Kong soon, and it used to be my favorite spot. Do they only have any more than the 2 girls man169.com shows?

Also, how realistic is it to take a couple of the 8 Mong Kok girls (or another YS mainland girl) back to my hotel for overnight? Any idea on prices? I want young, fresh off the boat, mainland girls.

[QUOTE=Asiabound69]Signed up and read a bunch over there. Looks like Hotel Reservation is mostly HER hotel not mine - didn't realize that before.

I am headed to Wan Chai Friday night ;-)[/QUOTE]Made it to HK late Friday night 7/31. Mate & I were hungry so stopped in place to eat along waterfront in Kowloon. Finished eating about midnight. Decided we would go across to LKF to check out the bars. Packed with people, had several more beers until place started slowing down around 2:00am. OK lets go to WC now. First stop Traffic. We stayed maybe an hour. Frankly the place scared me. Lots of really ugly girls and drunk guys. Crappy singer. Lets go. Walked out and headed to Neptune. Was at least 3:30 am by now and seriously packed with people and rock'in band. Dance with a few pretty ones and set my eye on a beautiful Indo. 23 y/o. Wanted LT. But she would not agree. Said she had to be at her day job by 7:00am, so agreed on ST. Back to famous 5 star in Kowloon side. No problems bring her in at 5:00am. Had a great time with this absolute hard body beauty. For sure expensive in my opinion 1000 HKD. But worth every penny. She will be in HK for about 3 months. She said call her next time and we'll party together all night starting at 6:00pm when she gets off work. Same 1000HKD. I have another trip planning for October.

I'm going to Hong Kong for the first time in two weeks. Staying at the Grand Stanford. Fat, middle-aged white guy.

There is so much information on this board that I am feeling a little overwhelmed about where to start.

I have mentally ruled out the 141 and 161 places as it sounds a tiny bit dodgy and/or hit-or-miss.

And I've ruled out any of the tourist trap stripper bars or an escort service.

So, I'm guessing my best bets are Wan Chai bars, the Holiday Inn bar, Hari's, which is also on Mody Road like my hotel is, and freelancers.

$1500 at most for LT at my hotel, right?

I may go to K-Pressure or 37 Dundas but recent reports have made them sound less than stellar experiences.

Any further advice?

Thank you so much.

Yeah, stay at the Wharney GDH Hotel on Lockert Rd. You are no more than 1/2 block from the hottest spots in WanChai. Very clean, great rates (book on their site internet approx $5. 600 HK) GF friendly. Location, location, location. You will thank me.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I'm going to Hong Kong for the first time in two weeks. Staying at the Grand Stanford. Fat, middle-aged white guy.

There is so much information on this board that I am feeling a little overwhelmed about where to start.

I have mentally ruled out the 141 and 161 places as it sounds a tiny bit dodgy and/or hit-or-miss.

And I've ruled out any of the tourist trap stripper bars or an escort service.

So, I'm guessing my best bets are Wan Chai bars, the Holiday Inn bar, Hari's, which is also on Mody Road like my hotel is, and freelancers.

$1500 at most for LT at my hotel, right?

I may go to K-Pressure or 37 Dundas but recent reports have made them sound less than stellar experiences.

Any further advice?

Thank you so much.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I'm going to Hong Kong for the first time in two weeks. Staying at the Grand Stanford. Fat, middle-aged white guy.

There is so much information on this board that I am feeling a little overwhelmed about where to start.

I have mentally ruled out the 141 and 161 places as it sounds a tiny bit dodgy and/or hit-or-miss.

And I've ruled out any of the tourist trap stripper bars or an escort service.

So, I'm guessing my best bets are Wan Chai bars, the Holiday Inn bar, Hari's, which is also on Mody Road like my hotel is, and freelancers.

$1500 at most for LT at my hotel, right?

I may go to K-Pressure or 37 Dundas but recent reports have made them sound less than stellar experiences.

Any further advice?

Thank you so much.[/QUOTE]Hi, you have a number of options close to your hotel.

Kp is almost walking distance, if the humidity is not too bad. This and 37D is really what you make of it. I was at KP last month and had a great time.

There are a couple of Sauna's very close; Noble (do a search here) 2-3 mins walk, and another I think called the Executive something; top floor of what looks like a tall parking building, with restaurants on the ground floor and karaoke rooms on the ground and first. They advertise along the side of the building. Its good quality, and the massage was very good. I'd recommend the Noble Sauna, tho.

There is a bar opposite the Inter Con; small place with a band, quite a few PI's hanging out there. Spend a few hours chatting to a bunch of them. In front of Sticky Fingers just along Moody Road has some street walkers late-ish. The bars along the front, overlooking the bay are fun in that you can have a beer and listen to some good (and bad) bands. One is an all girl PI/Thai band, good fun. But this is not Wanchai, so no WG as such in these bars.

After a few years absence from the scene, was in Hong Kong last week, Monday and Tuesday night, staying at Holiday Inn on Nathan.

First night, went across the street to see Ivy, at TST Mansion. She is the only 141 provider doing full service in this building.
Mainland girl offering massage and full service for 550 HKD, more or less as advertised on 141.

Height : 5'5", Size : 35C-24.5-35
Massage – good technique, ~7/8, about 30 minutes
CBJ - ~5, technique was OK, but I wanted bbbj
S3X - ~5/6, technique OK, but I sometimes lose interest when they get condom on.

Cost 550HKD, Overall good attitude. Convenience to Holiday Inn is great, otherwise I would not repeat.


Next night, I wanted to hang out in WanChai but typhoon warnings kept my near Kowloon. Ended up at Hari’s. Over 10 providers hanging out and only half as many men. Saw two providers I could do. One local girl was acting shy, staying close to her friend and not really making eye contact with anyone.

The other was an unusually tall philipina. At near midnight, I walked over to “meeka” (not sure if I heard name right). Said she was 1/2 Columbian and 1/2 Philippina. She was tall for a flip ~5’7”, body type was typical Columbian – small waist but lots on top 35D (enhanced) and lots on bottom.

I offered 800HKD short time (I don’t like them hanging around after the deed). She wanted much more but odds were stacked against her given the time the 2:1 female-male ratio. I told her 800HKD was good money for less than 2hrs work. I was about to walk away when she agreed.

She had a hot body and attitude to match. Very sexy experience. We undressed and got down to business; BBBJ good technique. Very very wet. She was playful and in order to hurry things along to began to mount me bareback. I quickly handed over the condom. She mounted, we went thru a few positions and I had an intense finish.

Twice she asked me to eat her out, but I demurred. It’s not something I do for providers. I tried to satisfy her with my fingers, but its not the same (just like HJ cannot substitute for great bbbj).

An intense $ex session is what I wanted and what I got. Cost 800HKD. I would definitely repeat with “meeka”.
TK

Two suggestions: 141 Hotel Reservations. These have been a bit more reliable in my experience. Sometimes a bait and switch ensues, but you can always walk away, and most are typically in decent hotel rooms in TST.

Additionally, across the street from your hotel is a open plaza type area where I've always been approached by SW. I've never experienced, but some of them were decent looking. If you have any local friends, there are a ton of KTV's that surround this plaza and almost all of them offer take out service.

Have fun

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I'm going to Hong Kong for the first time in two weeks. Staying at the Grand Stanford. Fat, middle-aged white guy.

There is so much information on this board that I am feeling a little overwhelmed about where to start.

I have mentally ruled out the 141 and 161 places as it sounds a tiny bit dodgy and/or hit-or-miss.

And I've ruled out any of the tourist trap stripper bars or an escort service.

So, I'm guessing my best bets are Wan Chai bars, the Holiday Inn bar, Hari's, which is also on Mody Road like my hotel is, and freelancers.

$1500 at most for LT at my hotel, right?

I may go to K-Pressure or 37 Dundas but recent reports have made them sound less than stellar experiences.

Any further advice?

Thank you so much.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tequila Kid]...Ended up at Hari’s. Over 10 providers hanging out and only half as many men. Saw two providers I could do. One local girl was acting shy, staying close to her friend and not really making eye contact with anyone.

The other was an unusually tall philipina. At near midnight, I walked over to “meeka” (not sure if I heard name right). Said she was 1/2 Columbian and 1/2 Philippina...

I offered 800HKD short time (I don’t like them hanging around after the deed). She wanted much more but odds were stacked against her given the time and the 2:1 female-male ratio. I told her 800HKD was good money for less than 2 hrs work. I was about to walk away when she agreed...

An intense $ex session is what I wanted and what I got. Cost 800HKD. I would definitely repeat with “meeka”.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Eric Burden]Went to New Makati recently to look for a pick up...

I found several Thai girls I liked but they wanted crazy prices 2-3K HKD for LT, One Thai wouldn't go for LT and had some lame excuse. Thais are generally cheaper, not more expensive. I gave up and chatted to some chinese, flippere and Viets. Found a Viet I liked and she offered 1.5K for LT. I smiled and walked off. She came up to me in a few minutes and said $1k + 100HKD taxi. I agreed. She was about a 7...

...So total damage 1200hkd for all night, 2 pops, nice body.[/QUOTE]
Two old lessons that are worth repeating: don't be afraid to negotiate downwards on the price (as the Tequila Kid did, successfully), and if the girl won't drop her price (Eric's Thai girl), then keep hunting as it won't be long until you find a better (and less expensive) choice.

Had a nice experience in Wanchai few weeks back on a Sunday evening. While walking around the Lockhart street at 8 pm I found a Filipino maid walking along the pavement. When smiled she smiled back and came to talk to me. She told her name Maria and age 34. I offered to take her to my room. She agreed without saying a word about money. Purchased few cans of beer and a pack of condom in a seven eleven and headed to the room. Had a good time. When she was leaving she hinted whether I can give her some gift. I gave her 300 HK. She was pleased. I asked about her availability on next Tuesday she said she can't come but I can contact her friend Dina and gave phone number asking me to call Dina only after 2 pm otherwise the boss will pick up phone. I tried calling but the number was not working. On Tuesday night Dina called my mobile few times and I asked her to come to my hotel at 10 pm. But Maria came at 10. I got angry because Maria lied to me and spoke to me as if Dina was calling. I told her you are liar and asked Maria to go away. She begged to stay with me and give sex for free. I some how did not like her to stay with me.

Had a layover/delay of 12 hours in Hong Kong, after arriving from 3 days macau. (this report will follow in the macau section)

Went into city directly to dundas street 37, first floor. It was afternoon and they did not have any girls available. So out for food and back in 1 hour. Now 3 girls for lineup. One I liked.

490 hkd incl. Upstairs hotel (390 for girl 100 for room). 1, 5 hours, first shower with BBBJ, is shot my load.

Than on the bed, some massage, ar, BBBJ, fucking, and in the end BBBJ cim, she did a great job, looked cute, but was not very enthusiastic, just did her job, not more, but also not less.

I was happy anyway, went out for some sightseeing, eating and came back again later. Different girl, same performance, better attitude.

My time was over, headed back to airport and had a good sleep on the long flight home.

Thomas Jefferson

When does the session end? After a certain amount of time or is it based on when you cum? I've read about guys having a chance to cum multiple times, but my visits always ended after my first shot. I don't know if I just took a long time or got ripped off.

[QUOTE=Gren62]When does the session end? After a certain amount of time or is it based on when you cum? I've read about guys having a chance to cum multiple times, but my visits always ended after my first shot. I don't know if I just took a long time or got ripped off.[/QUOTE]

Gren62,

It's a 45 minute session and supposed to be multiple pops. Some girls at 37D will try to hustle you into the shower seconds after they've taken the full bag off of you. Just point at the clock and say no. I do that on principle and get them to give me a backrub, even when I know there's no way I can achieve a second pop.

My first ever trip to HK, I thank everyone for the reports that I've read here. As a veteran of Phils and to a lesser degree, Indonesia and Thailand, I haven't really been tempted to hit all the bars in Wan Chai and having a pinay try to get me to pay $1500 HKD for long time when I could fly to Manila and back, get laid and still have change from that amount.

That being said, I decided that Dundas 37 or 141.com was the way to go. I'm staying at the Butterfly on Prat in TST and was looking for a hobby store online and whaddayaknow, it's on Dundas as well. It had rained damn hard that morning but was only overcast as I walked up Nathan road, still a bit on the humid side so I was sweating a bit when i got up to Dundas and looked in vain for the hobby shop. Couldn't miss the Dundas 37 sign though, bright yellow with loads of Chinese characters and the number 390 very prominent. So up the stairs I went.

Top of the stairs, I'm met by 2 pretty young things who usher me into a room with a couch, had me sit down, and ask me what I want to drink. "Beer" I replied, and a minute later an ice cold beer is in my hand as one of the young ladies ask me if I had ever been there before. "No" I replied and she told me that the price for 50 minutes was $390. Ok I replied and off she went to get to get some girls to show me. Girl #1 is about a 7 with a welcoming smile and what looks to be a decent size rack. #2 is a solid 8 but just a bit too skinny for me but very friendly as well. #3 is a 5 who didn't really look like she wanted to be there so I struck her off the list automatically. After a couple of minutes, I decide on #1. She seem happy to be chosen and leads me up the stairs to where the rooms are. Thankfully, I know the drill and pay the $100 and we go to room 3. We exchange names which seems to be most of the english she knows. Her name is Nini, 28 years old from Hunan province. Maybe 5 or 10 pounds over weight and her tits sagged a bit but she had huge nipples, think erasers on the end of a pencil but twice as big. Gorgeous!!!

Off to the shower and she scrubs me down completely and at one point puts a bunch of soap on me and proceeds to slide up and down, finally ending up on her knees with my dick rubbing between her clenched tits. It was basically a stand up Thai style soapie. While I appreciated the effort, I prefer the original version, lol. After she scrubbed off the soap, she asked "I kiss you?" while motioning to my dick. Of course I say yes but a look of distaste goes across her face so while she blew me a bit, she obviously wasn't into it so neither was I.

Out of the shower and on the bed, she commences to give me small kisses starting on my face and moving down my body before starting a blow job again. I see that I've neglected to mention the mirrors on the ceiling and while disconcerting to see my fat ass, it was a big turn on to watch her at work. So she's curled up next to me, head at my groin and giving me easy access to her ass, so naturally I flip one of her legs over my head and we're in a 69. This seemed to surprise her but she didn't seem to mind and for a while forgot about me as I licked up a storm. I realize that this a no-no with some mongers but my rule of thumb is as long as it doesn't smell or taste bad, have at it.

I rolled her over and started eating her out in earnest. At this point she's groaning quite loudly, is quite wet and is holding her legs apart to give me easy access with my mouth while and I can grab her tits and tweak her nipples with my hands. I don't want to brag but eating pussy is one thing I do well. To paraphrase the comedian Thea Vidale: "White boy, you might not be much in the dick department but that tongue action is hell!"

After about 10 minutes of that I stop and she grabs a condom and we go at at it cowboy style. Considering I hadn't been laid in quite a while I last a long time before cumming very intensely. Nini just lays there on top of me holding me for a few minutes while we catch our breath. There were still about 15 minutes left to go and we just laid beside each other gently caressing. She did tell me that I had one more shot but I didn't need it, I was perfectly content.


On my way out, one of the girls who greeted me handed me a business card. It reads:

Kam Po Shing Kareoke Night Club

1/F., 37 Dundas Street, Mongkok, Kowloon,

Tel: 2771 6601

10:00 AM - 6:00 AM.

And just to top it off, I took the the MTR back to the TST station and exited nearby the Holiday Inn on Mody Road. Many Indians chicks around giving me the eye and one asked me if I wanted a massage. Filed away for future reference.

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[QUOTE=Gren62]When does the session end? After a certain amount of time or is it based on when you cum? I've read about guys having a chance to cum multiple times, but my visits always ended after my first shot. I don't know if I just took a long time or got ripped off.[/QUOTE]Usually I got two pops. First one in the shower, a BBBJ in shower I cannot resist too lang. On the bed another pop. Never watch the time, usually take me around 1 hour or a bit longer. Treat the girls nice and they will not push you out.

Once I secretly opened my camerea on my mobile phone to record the whole experience, and this video is total 70 min. (unfortunately not too much to see.)

Thomas Jefferson

Hi, I have posted this question on the Zhuhai board.

A friend and I are flying into Hong Kong Airport and I know that there is a ferry service that will take us from the Hong Kong airport into Zhuhai but just not sure where to go to purchase the tickets or to catch the ferry.

Aafter we leave the HK airport customs, do we just go to the center of the airport where they sell tickets for the trains to purchase the ticket for the Ferry?

Or is there a bus that we would need to take in order to get to the ferry terminal?

I have found the time that the ferry leaves to Zhuhai but can not find how to purchase tickets or how to get to the ferry terminal from the HK airport.

I would appreciate any help. Thanks

[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi, I have posted this question on the Zhuhai board.

A friend and I are flying into Hong Kong Airport and I know that there is a ferry service that will take us from the Hong Kong airport into Zhuhai but just not sure where to go to purchase the tickets or to catch the ferry.

Aafter we leave the HK airport customs, do we just go to the center of the airport where they sell tickets for the trains to purchase the ticket for the Ferry?

Or is there a bus that we would need to take in order to get to the ferry terminal?

I have found the time that the ferry leaves to Zhuhai but can not find how to purchase tickets or how to get to the ferry terminal from the HK airport.

I would appreciate any help. Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi

Not sure about Zhuhai, but there is a ferry service from HK Airport to Macau and other places.

To use it, you do not use HK customs, but go directly to the ferry terminal. It is sign-posted. There are places to buy tickets at this "terminal".

Note that you not collect your luggage from the usual HK luggage hall, which is after HK customs.

You probably need to tell the airline when you check in, exactly where your luggage should go.

I have used this terminal coming from Macau..there is a check-in service at Macau ferry terminal. Your luggage just goes through to your final destination.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi, I have posted this question on the Zhuhai board.

A friend and I are flying into Hong Kong Airport and I know that there is a ferry service that will take us from the Hong Kong airport into Zhuhai but just not sure where to go to purchase the tickets or to catch the ferry.

Aafter we leave the HK airport customs, do we just go to the center of the airport where they sell tickets for the trains to purchase the ticket for the Ferry?

Or is there a bus that we would need to take in order to get to the ferry terminal?

I have found the time that the ferry leaves to Zhuhai but can not find how to purchase tickets or how to get to the ferry terminal from the HK airport.

I would appreciate any help. Thanks[/QUOTE][url]http://www.cksp.com.hk/eng/skypier/airport/main.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi, I have posted this question on the Zhuhai board.

A friend and I are flying into Hong Kong Airport and I know that there is a ferry service that will take us from the Hong Kong airport into Zhuhai but just not sure where to go to purchase the tickets or to catch the ferry.

Aafter we leave the HK airport customs, do we just go to the center of the airport where they sell tickets for the trains to purchase the ticket for the Ferry?

Or is there a bus that we would need to take in order to get to the ferry terminal?

I have found the time that the ferry leaves to Zhuhai but can not find how to purchase tickets or how to get to the ferry terminal from the HK airport.

I would appreciate any help. Thanks[/QUOTE][url]http://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/transport/transport-connection-with-mainland-china/ferry-transfer/passengers-transiting-to-prd-ports.html[url]

I just realized that the 141 site does not show the age any longer. Any one know why?

There is a fery service to Zhuhai at the moment only twice a day in each direction. Hong Kong Airport to Zhuhai 11:15 am and 17:00pm Zhuhai to Hong Kong Airport 9:30 am and 15:30pm.

Hope this helps, as previous information you have to book in at least an hour befre departure if you have lugage to be sent on by the ferry, I use them all the time and have never had a problem in either direction.

[QUOTE=Travel Lucid]Hi

Not sure about Zhuhai, but there is a ferry service from HK Airport to Macau and other places.

To use it, you do not use HK customs, but go directly to the ferry terminal. It is sign-posted. There are places to buy tickets at this "terminal".

Note that you not collect your luggage from the usual HK luggage hall, which is after HK customs.

You probably need to tell the airline when you check in, exactly where your luggage should go.

I have used this terminal coming from Macau..there is a check-in service at Macau ferry terminal. Your luggage just goes through to your final destination.

Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

just idle speculation.

it could be a le issue with **** service providers.

maybe they got tired of lying.

Just thought I'd relay this to the forum and do my bit in return for all the great information I have had over the years.

Went to Traffik Fri night Sat morning last week and was feeling playful. Place was 3/4 full, lots of ugly chicks but one or two stunners, one particular tall black girl stunning features, looked very classy in a red jump suit. I was with friends who were in her face way too much and she got pissed off with them in the end, which was a shame because she was giving me the eye the whole time and I thought we were on until their lads gave her the hump. Such is life.

Anyway, the rest of the bar seemed to have a few LB's around, my guess was Filipino LB's rather than Thai, but not what I was looking for in any case, so armed with my new found lus for Africans, fuelled by the looker, I was accosted by a pretty black girl at the bar. We chatted, I bought her a drink and she asked me to fuck her just like that. Probably had an idea I was up for it because she was stroking my best mate through my jeans by now and he was looking interested.

The usual negotiation ensued and she started with HK$2K, to which I just about spilled my drink down her substantial cleavage. I offered HK$1K and she feigned offence, but she wasn't worth any more. Eventually she accepted HK$1100 and we trundled off. She was fatter than I first thought and tall in her shoes, but I was hard by now and that was all that mattered, so I had decided she was having it in any case.

I was ready to go to a ST hotel, but she said use her place and give her another 300 on top, so I thought fuck it why not, I was past caring. Got there, clean but small place in the building next to good old (very) New Makati and we jumped in the shower. She then started to moan because I wasn't circumcised, it could be dirty, carry disease, not as beautiful as an uncircumcised cock, etc. etc. etc.

This got my back up and I was thinking fuck her and get it over with. She was going to give me covered BJ but I turned her down cos I just wanted to shoot and be gone by now. I don't recall what she was moaning and bitching about but she was at it non-stop now. Hong Kong men are too stingy, rent is too expensive, immigration are racist. Perhaps I should have stuck it down her fucking throat and had done with it just to shut the cow up.

Anyway, I got going and she finally stopped complaining, but by now I had become less than interested and after about 10 minutes I thought, bollocks, I've had enough, she wasn't doing anything for me at all. I stopped and she was now concerned that I hadn't cum so she set about my cock with a vengeance almost like I had broken the code and she just had to make it happen. That took 20 minutes longer then she wanted to chat and at about 5:30am I said look I'm off. I showered again and paid her HK$1400 as agreed and she started again, nag nag nag, Hong Kong men are tight, why dont you give me more? you stayed a long time, it wasn't agreed we would take so long.

In the end I told her, you made the deal, you kept me there so fuck off thats all you're getting. And I left.

Wish I had stayed with the tried and trusted Filipino or Thais, it will be my last experience with an African for sure. Well unless the looker comes back onto the scene and then I might be pursuaded.

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Not sure if the first black your are talking about is the tall one with the close cropped afro, but if so she's been said to be a little unstable. Something I've seen myself at late nights in Bridge or Neptunes.

I've had similar experiences with some of the blacks, which are a draw for me. A while ago I took out a pair late one night from Neptune. Agreed on $700 each for three+ hours iirc. Got to the short-time hotel, and then the complaint's/excuses started. "No, no shower together." "No, no blow-job." Kind of on and on. Took me for ever to get them BOTH out of their clothes. Eventually got a covered blow job (there was a negotiation between the two as to who would do that), went to enter one mish and the other is complaining "hurry up, hurry up" as they are chattering away. Wanted to switch to the other, and there was a problem with that too. Completely turned me off.

Now granted, I was pissed at the time, in the English sense of the word, but this made me pissed in the US sense of the word. I mean, it was 4:30/5:00am, so their options were kinda limited. Anyway, Xiao Di Di wasn't happy and things end with a ker-ploof. There was a certain sense of entitlement that seemed to spill out. "I am exotic and I am black therefore you will follow my lead."

I'm not sure about others, but I think part of my problem is not doing a much more in-depth interview as to what will and won't happen. Limiting the element of chance is something I need to work on.

[QUOTE=Basah]Not sure if the first black your are talking about is the tall one with the close cropped afro, but if so she's been said to be a little unstable. Something I've seen myself at late nights in Bridge or Neptunes.[/QUOTE]Yep thats the girl, stands to reason that someone looking that sophisticated, cool and collected couldn't be a hooker without some flaws. Isn't that what makes this planet so interesting?

I had another jaunt last night this time to Good Fortune Sauna down in Causeway Bay. There are lots of reports of this place on 141, probably here too and from what I could gather they are mostly positive, without being over the top.

Anyway, I'm very happy to say that I had one of the best sauna massages of all time last night. Arrived at about 9:00pm place was quiet. Two overly attentive guys showed me to the locker room and 'helped' me take my stuff off. It always annoys me this bit, too much invasion into space where they are not welcomed. They clearly are working hard for their tips, which you can choose to give or not on the way out by stuffing a few dollars into a collection box at the exit to the lockers, but having said this a hetero male doesn't want that level of attention, at least not a gweilo one anyway.

Moving on I had a shower and was shown through to the 'lounge' which consisted of about 4 foot massage style chairs and a 42" LCD screen showing local Chinese TV. Obviously being given front seat so I didn't miss the terrific Cantonese presentation (cough) I relaxed for a millisecond before I was asked what I wanted to drink. Cold beer? Nope don't do, ok water then, no not hot water (Never understood that) iced water please.

Then a very sexy woman walked over to me in her heels and business suit, must have been mid 30's but pretty and delicious legs, nice makeup (just my type, if only she had been doing the massage) and started to discuss my needs. Price for an hour was HK$480 (ish) and for a second hour a further HK$180 (ish). First hour massage, second hour HJ she explained bluntly. 2 hours it was then, didn't need a rocket scientist for that one. As I hadn't been there before, she asked me for my mobile number for membership. Nothing too sinister in case anyone is wary, just give your number and next time tell them the number and the price drops something like 10%. I drank my ice water and no sooner had it gone down, I was ushered into the lift lobby to be taken to the 3rd floor for a massageee.

3rd floor was ok, much like most other massage places in Asia. This one has been around a while and has way too much fake veneer and stripey wallpaper, but it's a massage parlour not an interior designer studio, so who cares. Clean is good at this point.

I was shown to my room and waited for about a minute. In comes my masseuse, about mid to late 20's or maybe early 30's at a push I'd say, face 7/10, body 7/10, legs 11/10, bingo I'm a happy man. She is playful and smiling a lot, very little English, but we ascertain she is from Chengdu and one of 7 kids. Now I am sure I got this wrong considering China's one child policy, but she went through big brudders, big sista, yanger brudder, so maybe it was just her old man couldn't keep it to himself and was filling the local village with kids for adoption. Anyway she then said only her Mudder left, Fadder died (probably whilst shagging I was thinking). Anyway, too much info, but you get the point, we had a good old half chat and she was happy to be with someone who was (seemed) interested.

Massageee begins, all back rubbing and shoulder. I had asked for medium, thank fuck because she was a strong girl and was giving me a right working over. I started to stroke her legs and telling her they were sexy. Ley ho hamsap (you are horny) she kept telling me, so I said, yeah it's a fair cop, but it's all your fault I reminded her. I kept lifting her skirt up to reveal nice full cut black panties and my best mate was stirring. I blew her crotch a kiss and she definitely seemed to like that.

Massage was ok for what must have been an hour easily, really worked me over first under the towels then using an oil based gel. Note to self, learn the Cantonese and Mandarin words for aaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhhh.

She excused herself and went out to get some hot towels to clean the oil off me and then it was on yer back time. She then started to show appreciation for my best mate, seemed to like the fact that I have been well looked after and started one of the slowest and most sensual HJ's I have ever had. I slipped my hand up her thigh and stroked her crotch through the aforementioned panties and she just relaxed and let me do it. Must have been 10 minutes like this, I'm hard as a rock, she is wet and soaking the panties, so I thought I'd go for it and slipped a finger inside. This made her moan, but she was obviously concerned that this felt good but it says in the book you can't do it. She half pulled away, but not enough to be out of my reach so she wasn't stopping me. What did stop me was the fact that she sped her HJ up to try and finish me and as that's what I was there for, I decided no point in screwing the whole thing up for a wet finger, so I went back to stroking the outside of her soaked panties and she slowed down again.

Well eventually she worked me up and when I popped I nearly took her head off which she thought was very funny.

She finished the eveing with another half hour of massaging my legs, feet, arms etc. And chatting about everything. She asked me for my number, which I gave her and she has sms'd me already, so could be in for a freebie, who knows.

Leaving the place is pretty much the same process in reverse, too much help from the boys, a small tip in the collection box and the final bill was HK$660 (ish). The sexy little girl in the business suit saw me and asked if I had a good time, which I said I had and she gave me a friendly squeeze on my waist, (WTF? ). Yesterday was that sort of a day, I got chatted up by a classy French woman when I was buying my coffee and invited for a private coffee with her yesterday morning. If only the rest of my life had followed that pattern.

Long and short of it is, try the sauna, communicate with the girl and have a playful time with her. Fun always leads to more in my experience, though last nights episode was a bit out of the ordinary. PM me for her name & tag number, she is a delight.

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[QUOTE=Okinomi]Anyway, the rest of the bar seemed to have a few LB's around, my guess was Filipino LB's rather than Thai, but not what I was looking for in any case, so armed with my new found lus for Africans, fuelled by the looker, I was accosted by a pretty black girl at the bar. We chatted, I bought her a drink and she asked me to fuck her just like that. Probably had an idea I was up for it because she was stroking my best mate through my jeans by now and he was looking interested.

The usual negotiation ensued and she started with HK$2K, to which I just about spilled my drink down her substantial cleavage. I offered HK$1K and she feigned offence, but she wasn't worth any more. Eventually she accepted HK$1100 and we trundled off. She was fatter than I first thought and tall in her shoes, but I was hard by now and that was all that mattered, so I had decided she was having it in any case.

I was ready to go to a ST hotel, but she said use her place and give her another 300 on top, so I thought fuck it why not, I was past caring. Got there, clean but small place in the building next to good old (very) New Makati and we jumped in the shower. She then started to moan because I wasn't circumcised, it could be dirty, carry disease, not as beautiful as an uncircumcised cock, etc. etc. etc.

This got my back up and I was thinking fuck her and get it over with. She was going to give me covered BJ but I turned her down cos I just wanted to shoot and be gone by now. I don't recall what she was moaning and bitching about but she was at it non-stop now. Hong Kong men are too stingy, rent is too expensive, immigration are racist. Perhaps I should have stuck it down her fucking throat and had done with it just to shut the cow up.

Anyway, I got going and she finally stopped complaining, but by now I had become less than interested and after about 10 minutes I thought, bollocks, I've had enough, she wasn't doing anything for me at all. I stopped and she was now concerned that I hadn't cum so she set about my cock with a vengeance almost like I had broken the code and she just had to make it happen. That took 20 minutes longer then she wanted to chat and at about 5:30am I said look I'm off. I showered again and paid her HK$1400 as agreed and she started again, nag nag nag, Hong Kong men are tight, why dont you give me more? you stayed a long time, it wasn't agreed we would take so long.

In the end I told her, you made the deal, you kept me there so fuck off thats all you're getting. And I left.

Wish I had stayed with the tried and trusted Filipino or Thais, it will be my last experience with an African for sure. Well unless the looker comes back onto the scene and then I might be pursuaded.

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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]These gals must figure they have gold plated pussies. Especially in timesof recession. They know that Immigration are racist. And whingeing won't change that. But damn. HK$ 1400 for a whinge fest must have been a real turn off. Its really rare to get that from the Asian gals. Its a shame as some of those African bodies are very curvy. Then again HK$ 1400 could get a flight to Manila or BKK also.[/QUOTE]That's about the size of mate, and it won't be repeated I can assure you.

[QUOTE=Okinomi]I had another jaunt last night this time to Good Fortune Sauna down in Causeway Bay.
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Yesterday was that sort of a day, I got chatted up by a classy French woman when I was buying my coffee and invited for a private coffee with her yesterday morning. If only the rest of my life had followed that pattern.
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great report
pity I am not planing to cme to HKG for quite a while, maybe jsutr a few hours in november, but most likely stay in HKIA...:(
but...what happened with the french lady?
We are curious as monkeys! (at least I am )

Just returned from my first trip to HK in a couple of years. Was there Wednesday thru Sunday. Went to Laguna, New Makita and Neptune II. Felt like a time warp. Nothing has changed in the past two years. That I noticed. Except the closing of Fenwicks.

Laguna seems to be the first place that gets crowded. Prior to 8PM and has a rocking dance floor. Many of the women in there do not seem to be service providers. Although I kind of knew this from my past experiences, I relearnt this aspect of Laguna when I approach a taller, larger boned filipana who happened to have just arrived with her equally tall and larger boned sister. They were both hot and stood out from the crowd. The had bodies to die for. I approach the older of the two (26 versus 23 for her sister) and told her I was most interested in a pair of women. She responded that she was not one of those Thai or Indonesian service providers. A bit embarrassing for me to have assumed otherwise. The DG keeps that floor rocking all night long. Good for music and dance, less so for the take out girls.

New Makati was not once crowded the entire time I was in Wanchai. Each of the four nights I was in HK: this was true from 8PM until after midnight. There were service providers, all from Phils, but the selection was very limited.

Therefore, I spent the majority of my time at Neptune II. The same Filipino band from years past was rocking the place all four nights. There version of the new U2 song Magnificent is great. After 10 the place gets crowded, and stays that way until well into the morning. The place had a ton of filipina and Thais, with a very few African and Columbians.

I had four girls go back to my hotel with me. A stunning (model looks and body) filipina on Wed and Saturday afternoon (we had lunch "date" at the top of the overlook/mountain). In both instances she did BBBJ and let me cum in her mouth. No swallow. She insisted that she cum as well, which I don't recall being customary for these girls. $1000HK, but gave her $1500 since she was warm, beautiful (stunning), and a held nothing back for me.

Thursday night I took home a Thai girl that was kinda shy and hung out at the Neptune II bar all night. I flirted with her for hours before taking her home for ST. $1000 HK. Very cute Thai girl.

Friday night I took home another filipina for LT, $1000 plus cab fare. Again BBBJ and let me cum in her mouth. No swallow. She slept with me afterwards. Petite, with the most amazing eyes and expressions, but not the best provider. Ok experience.

Also, on Friday, I saw one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen in the Wanchai discos. A petite Thai girl hanging out at the tables near the stage off to the left. I was ogling her for a while on Friday and watching all the guys approaching her wondering why she was rejecting all of them. Later, I found out from her that she was too drunk to go home with any of them. The next night, after saying goodbye to my lunch "date" filipina and another round of sex in my hotel room, I returned to Neptune II around 10PM and started to see some of her friends show up after midnight. I asking one of them when her friend was returning and she said after 1AM. Sure enough, she arrived on time and her friend aggressively introducted us. I immediately got down to business and poorly negotiated $1200 ST. Certainly a bad deal but this was the hottest looking woman I have ever seen in the discos. Very nice BBBJ, and oddly enough a woman that insisted on having an orgasm herself. Afterwards, we shared a cab back to Neptune II (now about 4AM). Band was still playing. I heard Magnificent again and then went home.

The Wanchai scene. If you like Thais and Filipinas, is as strong as other based on my experience last weekend. Columbians are not as plentiful as they used to be at Fenwicks, but I never sought them out anyway. I have read that rates for the Thais and Filipinas have dropped in the past couple of years. This may be true. But I was not in the mood to nickle and dime these girls this time.

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An absolutely fun couple of days. But I probably need to act more like a grown-up at some point in time in the near future. Sorry for the long report, but I don't post much here (although appreciate the insight) and I thought I would give back a bit (and recount what I thought was a great set of experiences).

Decided at about 3:30am Tuesday night/Wednesday morning that I wanted to go out, so I headed to Wanchai, eventually arriving around 4:30am. Bridge doesn't get going until something closer to 6am, so I went to Neptunes, drank a couple of beers. By this point in time things are beginning to wind down in Neptunes, but fortunately the band is pretty finished by then (they are the type of band that people stop dancing to and wait for the DJ music in between sets). Headed from there over to Bridge around 5:30 for the usual craziness. The place gets packed as the girls all filter in, lights are down, don't think there are 'ladies drinks' as the prices are the same so there's not really the hustle there.

Somehow I ended up hooking up with two Fillipina's, one a domestic helper, the other a previous domestic helper but who was here on a "tourist visa." Probably around 9 we exited Bridge and went across the street to grab some Dim Sum (one of them said she was hungry). That was quite the site. Me, two Filippina's, and the early morning Chinese Dim Sum crowd of grandmothers and young kids staring at us.

After finishing up, we exited and walked back in the direction of Bridge, with the DH saying, "let's go back to Bridge and grab another beer." I passed Bridge kept walking, and as we passed the short term place down the street, I ducked in, they laughed and followed.

Up to the room, no discussion of money, and in we go. Both girls get naked. We spent the next five hours or so in and out of sleep, and screwing. What was nice was not having to change condoms between the two. Got to explore a lot of fantasy's, like having my balls in one girls mouth as the other is deep throating me, or having them both on their knees and switching back and forth. A true porn star moment. Ended up giving each girl $1, 000, they wanting more of course (taxi money to get to the boarding house on Johnston Road. LOL). The 'tourist' visa girl is still around (as you'll see) and is a larger (read taller but not fat) build. Both were late twenties to 31. Don't ask their names. I don't remember. Tourist visa girl (think she is looking for another contract as I was asked repeatedly on that front) said that was the first time she had done that (uh-huh) but they were both very, very accommodating.

Left them sometime around 3 or 4 in the afternoon, found a regular bar, and spent the next couple of hours sipping beers and throwing bs around. Decided I should go home, but convinced myself that I should go through Laguna first and have a couple of beers.

So around 6pm I am in Laguna (the place does not get going on the weekdays until 9ish or so), sitting quietly sipping my beer (okay, and nodding off a bit as I didn't get all that much sleep), and I get this "Hi, I'm X." X turns out to be another DH who's employers are out of town so she is out to play, although again, she doesn't do this. Spent the next couple of hours sipping beer and flirting with her. Deciding not to be my usual bashful self, I turn the conversation immediately to oral sex and orgasms, to which she laughed and gave as good as she gets. Took a little cajoling, and me walking away a couple of times (where I bumped in to the 'tourist visa' girl who wanted to hook up again), but convinced X she'd have the time of her life and off we go to the short time place, her a little reluctant apparently (she turned around to walk away several times as we made our way there). Anyway, a good time was had by all, I have the scars on my back to prove it. We were only in the hotel for about 2 hours. No money changed hands, though later, after going back to Laguna and dancing for a while I gave her $200 for taxi fair home and (she decided that she wanted to meet up the next afternoon and if we did would I take her shoe shopping) and back the next day.

So end up going home around 1am, tired from having been up and slightly drained.

Am woken up by the phone at 11 the next morning. Are we getting together she asks. So back again to the short time place (distances between us being what they were) for a repeat performance. This woman was incensed on blowing me to make me come and spent a good amount of time trying to do so. Ultimately finished off and sat at talked for a while (she telling me about her soon to be arriving boyfriend. LOL).

Now, here you'd figure that I'd call it an experience and go back home, but instead, I repeat the performance of the previous day, sipping beer until Laguna opens up, doing Laguna and Neptune. I did leave Laguna fairly early (bought a girl a drink and the wait staff refused to give her her ladies money. Have decided I won't take my business there anymore, especially since the manager was buying me beer there the night before). Anyway, spent a good couple of hours 'cuddling' in Neptunes (where the 'tourist visa' girl again tracked me down, walked around behind the girl who was kanoodling up against me so she could kiss me on the sly) before I pulled the girl in my lap out of the bar.

This time I asked her. 'how much? ' She said, "You live here, you tell me? " I think she voiced something like $1, 500 short time (I laughed) but after that it was an 'up to you' moment. So, off we go, again, to the short time place (I should have been buying shares in the thing) for a couple of hours of rolling around. Gave her the ST $500 fee but not a great experience.

By now it's got to be something like 5am or so, so being prudent with bed beckoning, I decided to go to Bridge. Definitely into silly time, as closed Bridge out, took a Thai girl and got food and then went (around 10am) to get yet another beer by myself (no sex with that one but she could really dance).

So there I was, figuring it was definitely time to call it a day. Figured I'd completely debauch myself and go get a 141 massage so enroute home headed to Sham Shui Po. Here it was a little disappointing as I had a dead cell phone so couldn't make any calls and the two providers I know of in the area (Betty and Mi Mi. 161 and 141 respectively) were not in. I knew that this was a sign to call it quits.

Hopped on the MTR, but instead of continuing on home, retraced my steps to Prince Edward where there is a yellow sign place near the MTR for $370. I like this place because it is a little better than your average mongkok YS places. In I go and ask the Mamasan for a girl with large breasts and who gives fantastic blow jobs. A minute later mamasan comes back with a so sorry, large breasted woman is 'busy' but I send you a good girl.

And boy did she. About three minutes later girl from Guilin comes in, probably B cup, around 24, and I'd say very cute but this is me on no sleep and two many beers.comes in, we chat a bit, undress, in to the shower. She soaps me up, rinses me off, then begins with the in-shower BJ. And this girl is good. Goes all the way down on me. Out of the shower, on to the bed, and she continues. Spent most of my time just letting her go down on me. This was not your standard Chinese blow-job-to-get-you-hard, this was a Mamasan said he wanted OWO and I need to perform.

Finally cover up, place this 5'3 or 4 girl on her knees and off to the main show. Now she's got the fake moan's down pat, almost so that they don't sound fake. She takes it well, flipping over when asked and again more mish. Fake boobs (it appeared), but a real cutie.

Now, given the lateness of the hour, the amount of beer I had consumed, and the previous bouts over the past couple of days, I was having difficulty but this girl was not to be distracted. Pushes me off and says, "let me blow you again." And boy does she, wrapping the back of her throat around me. Shudder. Ultimately I tell her I am going to come and she picks up the pace, taking the entire ejac in her mouth. She holds me there for a moment or two before giving that great Chinese spit and pops to the shower to rinse and bathe me.

It was a good, debaucherous couple of days. Was it cheap? Some parts of it were, but the ladies drinks added up for the 'freebie.' The double, at $2K all in was not cheap, but it was absolutely and wholely worth it. And finishing it off with the girl from Guilin. Mastercard moment. Priceless.

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I will be in HK soon and I want to know the going rate for overnight stay for 141girls and bar pickups.

Thanks.

After reading this forum for several years, and enjoying my trip to Asia much more because of it, I finally decided to post my Hong Kong experiences. In the last 3 years I have spend 7 weekends in Hong Kong during business trips. I'm going back this fall and looking forward to it. I have tried the call girls services and found the experienced okay, but rushed and impersonal. I like to have a few drinks, survey the crowd, and make my pick. There is no better place for this than Wanchai. For me walking into Wanchai bars is a testosterone rush. Where else can you go and have your pick of so many beautiful women. Usually there are three girls for everyone guy so it can be a buyer's market. Here is my review of some of the bars:

Neptune 2. Hard to beat with the great selection of Thai and Philippino women. You will also find stunning Vietnam girls (very hard and all business, would not recommend), African girls (never tried), and Columbian girls (never tried, not very friendly). I have picked girls up for the night or spent the whole weekend with them. I have had some great GFE with Thai girls from Neptune 2. Action usually starts around 10:00 pm and goes until after 4:00 am. I normally arrive in HK around 11:30 pm, check in the hotel, and good straight to Neptune 2.

Laguna. Good for Philippino and Indonesian domestic helpers on Saturday and Sundays from 4:00 to 9:00 pm. Most of the domestic helpers leave by 9:00 pm because they have curfews. After 9:00 pm you get a mix of working girls, but not the selection of Neptune 2. Some these girls will go with you ST after a few drinks and dancing with no discussion of money. Other will ask for money and will go with you for ST for 300-500 HK$. Last time I was in Laguna on Sunday afternoon I took home a very enthusiastic Indonesian girl. This girl wanted laid and made some much noise I was afraid hotel security would be knocking on the door. Whenever I'm in Hong Kong I do not miss going to Laguna around 5:00 pm on Sunday.

New Makita – popular with domestic helpers like Laguna, but my experiences have not been great. Never seems as crowded as Laguna and the selection of girls not as good. I talked with guys at HK bars that say they have had good mongering experiences at New Makita, so give it a try.

Fenwicks – closed, a great shame, this place was unbelievable. Close to heaven on earth.

Traffik. Last time I went in around 11:30 pm. Only 20 people in the place, a few stunners at the bar. Ended up taking home a beautiful Cambodian girl. Face an 8, body a 9. Okay sex, but I sure enjoyed walking out with her. Will definitely check this place out again.

Other Bars – Amazonia, Galaxy, Baracy, Sticky Fingers, etc. Do not have much experience since I usually spend my time in Neptune 2 or Laguna, but I'm sure the scene is not much different.

Hari's Bar Holiday Golden Mile (Kowloon) – good selection of girls from Philippines, Thailand, and sometimes Russia, Mongolia, and Chinese. Action starts around 9:00 pm and ends by 1:00 am. If you are in Kowloon I would recommend.

Summary – Wanchai is a great place to pick up pick up beautiful women. You have to be careful to not over pay. I pay 1, 500 HK$ LT for attractive girls. Some girls will ask a lot more. My advice is to move on unless you really have to have it. My best experience has been with girls who do not talk about money until the next morning or until after a few drinks. Treat these girls well and you will have a great time. In general, girls that give you a price in the first two minutes are looking to flip customers and the service will be poor or rushed. Be careful of girls who want money in advance. Usually this means bad service or they will try to leave early. If a girl is aggressive about negotiating and taking her home your best best is to tell the girl what you expect in advance, do not be shy most of them have heard it all, so there are no misunderstanding. My final pieces of advice would be to always use condoms (for obvious very important reasons) and do not get to drunk (the girls sense this and will rip you off). Enjoy!

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Hungerman,

lt with 141 if available is I believe with their profile on the site. LT for Wanchai should come in at $1,000 HK - I've often been quoted (much much) higher, and I've also paid $700 or so for it.

As to Makati - I'd (unfortunately) agree it's usually dead (unfortunately because I really like the staff there) but go on a Sunday from 4pm to 830 and the place is heaving.

This trip I wanted to try an escort in HK. Called a number picked out in net I surfed in Hotel. The guy told me the escort will do massage for 800HK $ and whatever happens between you and the escort is our private arrangement. A really stunning Korean 25yo said name Yoko arrived. She asked to finish the financial aspect and wanted 1500 additional. I know it is very high but I cant help it. But service was very good service. While leaving she gave mobile number and said if I call her the following days directly she needs only 1500.

Gentlemen,

I spent the last week with a friend in Hong Kong. First time for him and for me one of my frequent business trips per year. I showed him around and of course Wanchai was also on the plan.

Like metioned already before by others, Fenwicks was the best and I miss it a lot. Nevertheless we had a nice time, which we mainly spent in Traffik and NeptuneII. The Colombians appear indeed unfriendly, but if you treat them well they also start to smile. Clear advantage is if you speak some words spanish. But I have to say there has been none I really wanted to go with. If I remember the Colombians in Fenwicks some years ago............

In Traffik we spent some time with 2 Russians. Both blond and not too bad. I guess the age on around 30 something. The good thing on them was, that they agreed to go all together to my room. They asked for 1500HK$ for the night. I have to say it was a great time with them. After we had all a shower together (thanks to the big shower cabin in the Shangri-La) they started some nice lesbian action in the bed. They had no problem to change all the time with me and my friend and we finally kicked them out at 5:30 in the morning. Next day we picked up 2 girls from Vietnam, but that was by far not that good like the night before with the russians. They didn't want to change and they also behaved quite stupid.

The night after I picked up a little Philipina and with her it was nice sex. It was more relaxing than the days before.

On last wednesday we met 2 girls in Neptune, one from Vietnam and one from Thailand. I have to say the one from Vietnam was really good looking. A perfect body and a nice face. Her friend from Thailnad was not my taste, but my friend liked her, so that we decided to spend this night seperated. The one with me gave really a nice GF experience and she didn't start to speak about money. We had a great night with chatting at the window looking to the Hong Kong side and we had a great time in bed. Because I was leaving on friday I asked if she would like to come to the hotel on thursday evening as I was not in the mood to go again to Wanchai. She arrived at 8pm at the hotel and it the night was great. She stood with me until I had to leave the hotel and she even wanted to join me to the airport what I appreciated, but didn't see it as a good idea.

I am now home since friday night and my phone got so many sms since that like never before :-)

I will be back beg. of October and I really hope to see her again.

The Japanese girls on 141 look amazing.

Can anyone comment on their experience with these girls? Do they look like the pictures and is the service any good?

I heart from my business partners that there is in China a national holiday from Oct 01-08. And that during this period most of them don't work.
Is anybody aware about the situation in HK and Macau?
Do we have to expect more people in Macau on vacation?

Thanks for any feedback

Whomer

[QUOTE=Whomer]I heart from my business partners that there is in China a national holiday from Oct 01-08. And that during this period most of them don't work.
Is anybody aware about the situation in HK and Macau?

Do we have to expect more people in Macau on vacation?

Thanks for any feedback

Whomer[/QUOTE]Whomer,

Yes it is a public holiday in HK is on a friday and the mid autumn festival is on oct 4 this yr ,there will be many people from prc storm into Hk and Macau, most bank and company will be closed and hotel and airfare will double.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Snorky 7401]The Japanese girls on 141 look amazing.

Can anyone comment on their experience with these girls? Do they look like the pictures and is the service any good?[/QUOTE]

Snorky ...

The chat boards used by many of the local (HK Chinese) punters make many hints / complaints to the effect that a lot of these girls are not in fact Japanese, but rather are Mainland or Taiwanese girls with a bit of a Japanese look about them. Why the deception? Because you will see that the "Japanese" girls all are considerably more expensive than others. All part of HK-ers' fascination with Japanese things, and because most of the local punters grew up jacking off to pirated Japanese AV movies.

My own (limited) experience - can't tell if they are in fact Japanese. Don't really care. All have fake boobs. The photos have been photo shopped, but the girls still are very presentable, albeit usually older than the photos suggest. Service is professional, but mechanical, as you have to expect from a provider who is expected to service 10 to 15 customers a day.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Whomer]I heart from my business partners that there is in China a national holiday from Oct 01-08. And that during this period most of them don't work.
Is anybody aware about the situation in HK and Macau?
Do we have to expect more people in Macau on vacation?

Thanks for any feedback

Whomer[/QUOTE]

Whomer,

1 October is the National Day holiday.

The Mainland makes a bit of a week of it, but it is only a one day public holiday here in HK.

Lots of Mainland tourists come to HK in that week, but it doesn't really affect things. HK can cope with large influxes of tourists fairly easily, without even bending at the seams.

Can't comment on Macau.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]great report

pity I am not planing to cme to HKG for quite a while, maybe jsutr a few hours in november, but most likely stay in HKIA.

but...what happened with the french lady?

We are curious as monkeys! (at least I am )[/QUOTE]Ah the French lady. Well truth is it is a work in progress that I have neither the time nor inclination to explore. We did coffee, we got on very well, but I am just not around long enough to make it happen, so c'est la vie.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]Snorky ...

The chat boards used by many of the local (HK Chinese) punters make many hints / complaints to the effect that a lot of these girls are not in fact Japanese, but rather are Mainland or Taiwanese girls with a bit of a Japanese look about them. Why the deception? Because you will see that the "Japanese" girls all are considerably more expensive than others. All part of HK-ers' fascination with Japanese things, and because most of the local punters grew up jacking off to pirated Japanese AV movies.

My own (limited) experience - can't tell if they are in fact Japanese. Don't really care. All have fake boobs. The photos have been photo shopped, but the girls still are very presentable, albeit usually older than the photos suggest. Service is professional, but mechanical, as you have to expect from a provider who is expected to service 10 to 15 customers a day.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I tried the one in Fuji in Wanchai and can promise she isn't Japanese, in fact she didn't even look Japanese when I got there. You can distinctly tell the accented English between the various countries around this region and I would say that with her Mandarin accented sounds she was/is probably Taiwanese because it wasn't a local accent and it wasn't mainland.

I have a thing for Japanese women and have been pretty disappointed in Hong Kong at the lack of opportunities. There did used to be a Japanese girl who advertised in HK magazine and she was genuine, but they have stopped publishing the escort ads now, so I have lost contact. Wish I could help more.

I called by 37D again last night, to see if their decline into averageness was permanent, or if they could still offer me a reason to continue visiting. And overall, there was a glimmer: it wasn't all bad.

The line-up was poor, to start with. But this might just be a policy to give the gweilos the low-quality girls, because, ever since I have been going to Dundas, I've seen local Chinese guys walking down from the love-hotel with absolute stunners on their arms. But these lovely girls never appear in my line-ups. Coincidence? I think not.

Anyway, in the line-up were (1) a smiley 5/10 lady who was on the mature side of "mature"; (2) a frowny 5/10 girl who glared at me when I made eye contact, and (3) a 7/10 zaftig girl, rather mature for my tastes, but with a delightful Mongolian cast to her features and a winning smile. I took her. She was called Suet-something. I'm sure it wasn't Siu-something. She wasn't "siu" in any way at all. Anyway, if anyone else wants to find her, she's Suet-something from Chengdu.

Service was goooood. She was giggly and knew a reasonable amount of English, did a fine job of AR and BBBJ (I had to drag her off me before it was too late), and was happy to switch positions as many times as I wanted. She made it known that BBFS was on offer, but wasn't at all offended when I declined. After we finished, she moulded herself to my side and went to sleep.

Perhaps I'll still go back to 37D... a few more times.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]
1 October is the National Day holiday.
Uncle Gobber
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]
Yes it is a public holiday in HK
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

Thanks to you both.

Whomer

Appears like V & C are readily available over the counter from any pharmacy in Hong Kong.

About 3 weeks ago, purchased 4 tabs of V from pharmacy around back of Holiday Inn Golden Mile, somewhere around Cameron & Camarvon. Cost ~ 400 HKD

The next morning, purchased 4 tap of C from pharmacy on Nathan, just north of Holiday Inn Golden Mile. Cost ~ 330 HKD.

Experience with V
Took half a tablet. Not sure if it worked, it was a hot s e x y session. I did my thing went to bed soon after. But ended up with a headache most of the next day.

Experience with C
Took half a tablet and drank about liter of water. Worked well for 3 days. Slight backache after first night but maybe not related to C, although backache is listed as minor side effect.

About V, I may try again. Another post recommended drinking lots of water helps.

About C, definitely try again. Will purchase from the same pharmacy next time in HKG.

From the web about Cialis:
Recommended time to take before sex is 30 minutes to 12 hours
Most common side effects: Headache, dyspepsia/upset stomach, back pain
Advantages : Cialis has few side effects and lasts longer in the body to increase spontaneity than either Levitra or Viagra.

From the web about Viagra
Recommended time to take before sex is 60 minutes
Most common side effects: Headache, facial flushing, altered or blueish vision
Advantages : Viagra is very well known and a proven effective treatment. It is discounted heavily and is widely available.

-TK

I saw a link to this site and have never heard of it before. I don't read Chinese either, so I can't quite figure out what is on offer there. It looks like it could be a karaoke/massage/live show type establishment. Can you take girls out to your hotel or lodgings? Sorry if this is obvious to you locals, but could someone explain what is on offer there and if there are other similar well known establishments of this type to be found in HK.

I have an upcoming family vacation where I'll be in Hong Kong for about a week or so, and must admit that this site is awesome.

I've learned a lot but wanted to make sure that I understood everything, and had a small question here or there.

It seems that Wan Chai is the place to go to meet non-Chinese/HK WGs. It kicks off at about 10 o'clock and never looks back. In particular the best places to visit seem to be Neptune 2, Traffic Laguna, and Bridge if it's really late (or early, I guess). Taking the girls to an hourly hotel will run me 500HKD. 1500HKD ST. Couple of question heres, do the Russians usually only hang out at Traffic? And prior to 10 o'clock (as I'm looking to be at a hotel with one of the girls at this time) it seems that Laguna is empty, Neptune 2 is starting to fill and the same with Traffic. Is the 9 o'clock hour really that bad for picking up girls? This seems to be a pretty good value as you get to spend more time with the girl, but the services can vary.

On to 46 Dundas. It seems that this is probably the best value for the money in terms of full service and time invested. The lineup seems to have deteriorated some in the recent months, but it sounds like there are signs of hope.

Next the 141 site. You get to pick the girl, but the services rendered seem to vary and then there's the old bait-and-switch.

Let's see, did I get it right? Oh yeah, Laguna seems to be a good destination Sundays from 5-9 for Domestic helpers looking for a fling or some extra money.

Also, as this is a family vacation, and I see that there are pictures on this site (although, I don't have access), are the girls open to pictures/movies? I. E. Which offers the best chance? I'm thinking the Wan Chai scene. Does any body know?

[QUOTE=Idler31]I called by 37D again last night, to see if their decline into averageness was permanent, or if they could still offer me a reason to continue visiting. And overall, there was a glimmer: it wasn't all bad.

The line-up was poor, to start with. But this might just be a policy to give the gweilos the low-quality girls, because, ever since I have been going to Dundas, I've seen local Chinese guys walking down from the love-hotel with absolute stunners on their arms. But these lovely girls never appear in my line-ups. Coincidence? I think not.
[/QUOTE]

Many places will do this to you if you are a gweilo and not a regular customer as they figure we are all off the boat and have yellow fever.

While it has been months since I have been to 37D, and was never much of a regular, going maybe once every three or four months. I would always send the first line up away and ask if they had any better looking girls. The second line up would always be considerable better looking and younger.

Saunas and pink/yellow signs places generally are the same if you are a gweilo and not a regular. At pink/yellow sign places you can send the girl away, although english communication with the staff working the place can be a challenge at times, and a pleasure at others. Saunas are a little more difficult to send girls away.

I recommend man169.com which now is partially in English, but is simple enough to use even in Chinese as it is google map based and the girls are usually numbered not named. I ofter will grab the couple numbers of girls before going to a sauna or pink/yellow sign. Even if the girls you selected are not working at that time it shows that you are not a newbie or uneducated and it helps with getting better girls, and rather frequently the girls you have picked are working.

So I went out for a quiet one last night and bumped into an old friend out on the town. Well, as usual, it got messy and I was three sheets to the wind by midnight.

We went into Amazonia and I was pleasently surprised at the general quality and interest in there. A couple of LB's there when we first got in, but they soon went because they stood out like a couple of dogs bollocks and no one was paying any attention to them.

The rest of the clientele was mostly Filipino, with a few western girls in there enjoying the band.

We played with the girls a bit, but nothing serious, then went off to Boracays, which is next to the 7-11 on Luard Rd. Downstairs was a real kick back to the Big Apple days, very little has changed inside either for that matter.

Played with a few girls there, got fleeced for a drink, then the bill came and it was $140. So I asked, "for one drink, what the fuck is in it?" "no sir two drinks, cocktail and tequila" well, the tequila went back and I fucked her off with her 'cocktail'.

Next stop was Neptunes II which was heaving with all kinds of specimins. Always reminds me of the bar scene in Star Wars with slightly less violence, but only slightly. Nothing really interested me there, so I went out and into Traffik for a looksee.

Reasonably busy, but not too packed which I kind of like. I walked past the cutest thing in a red dress on my way to get a drink and she was still there when I walked back, so bam, that was it, lust at first sight. I have a thing for Vietnamese girls (and Japanese) and she was just lovely. 19 years old, 5'0", slim, sexy dress and very pretty. Am I just gullible or what?

So HK$1000 was agreed and orf we went back to my place. Now it is worth mentioning here that this was for what I thought was LT, but was later to establish that it was in her mind only for ST. Language differences? maybe, but probably not. Vietnamese are lovely, but extremely business wise.

Back to my place, which proves I was pissed (English pissed) because I don't do that normally especially with the gestapo security guards on the door. However, my conscience was past giving a toss by now and I stared the guard down as I walked past him with a dirty smirk on my face. I do hope he was thinking, "lucky bastard", because she was exquisite.

She was very responsive when we got upstairs and we had very pleasant GF sex for about 30 - 45 mins, by which time I was FUBAR and ready for a sleep. I'll do her in the morning I'm thinking. Think again, as she went into the shower, got dressed and set off into the night, no doubt for more punting.

Anyway, it wasn't the best experience I've ever had, but I'd see her again sober and really make up for the last one with a vengeance.

Now, what to do tonight?

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1. Since it looks like Air Asia has a flight from BKK to HK early Monday Nov. 2 and returning on Friday....I was thinking of flying then..however, maybe it'd be better to fly Tuesday morning and return on Saturday..

What do you think?? Will the BKK and HK airports be so packed on Monday mornings and Fridays that I'd be sgnificantly better off doing Tues. and coming back Saturday?

2. So I guess it'd be easy to take a cab from the airport to my hotel. So, I need to find a hotel...I'm not sure of the prices there, but I'm sure it's more expensive than BKK...so I'd be looking for somethign equivalent to the Dynasty Grande which I think is either a 3 or 4 star hotel....in BKK it's about $60 bucks a night..maybe I have to pay more in HK?? Also, I think I read where a lot of the bars are in Wanchai? Is this a good place to stay and can you recommend any hotels equivalent to say the $50 to 70 range in BKK?

2a. Can you give m ore info such as directions, etc. to Hop Yee building and any other "must do" places?

3. I guess I'd like to maybe stay either 3 nights in HK and the final in Macau or else do 2 HK, 1 Macau, 1 HK..any advice on that?

4. If I did stay in macau, any advice on hotels in samequality range as above with strategic location near girls, etc?

5. Is there a good way to "do the ferry" to Macau....?? I've read where one can walk down and get a deal at the termina that includes a sauna or two. Is that a good way to do it or is it better to go just on my own and get a hotel and go from there..??

Any other info would be appreciated...it's kind of like the first time in BKK.

[QUOTE=Redfield10]1. Since it looks like Air Asia has a flight from BKK to HK early Monday Nov. 2 and returning on Friday. I was thinking of flying then. However, maybe it'd be better to fly Tuesday morning and return on Saturday.

What do you think? Will the BKK and HK airports be so packed on Monday mornings and Fridays that I'd be sgnificantly better off doing Tues. And coming back Saturday?

2. So I guess it'd be easy to take a cab from the airport to my hotel. So, I need to find a hotel. I'm not sure of the prices there, but I'm sure it's more expensive than BKK. So I'd be looking for somethign equivalent to the Dynasty Grande which I think is either a 3 or 4 star hotel. In BKK it's about $60 bucks a night. Maybe I have to pay more in HK? Also, I think I read where a lot of the bars are in Wanchai? Is this a good place to stay and can you recommend any hotels equivalent to say the $50 to 70 range in BKK?

2a. Can you give m ore info such as directions, etc. To Hop Yee building and any other "must do" places?

3. I guess I'd like to maybe stay either 3 nights in HK and the final in Macau or else do 2 HK, 1 Macau, 1 HK. Any advice on that?

4. If I did stay in macau, any advice on hotels in samequality range as above with strategic location near girls, etc?

5. Is there a good way to "do the ferry" to Macau.? I've read where one can walk down and get a deal at the termina that includes a sauna or two. Is that a good way to do it or is it better to go just on my own and get a hotel and go from there.?

Any other info would be appreciated. It's kind of like the first time in BKK.[/QUOTE]My advice would be that if you are in Bangkok already, better stay there.

The Thai girls are more and cheaper.

For Filipina better go to Manila or AC on a direct flight with Cebu Pacific and enjoy there.

For cinese. Ok, but from my experience 141 isn't worth it anyway, just go in, blow off, go out (good thing is you can go almost ANY time). Sauna would be the only reason for me to show up in HK, but thats also not superior to BKK from my point of view.

Hotels are better in BKK in the low cost area. HK cheap places I never enjoy.

Summary: I would save the money.

Hi,

A regular visitor to HK, done and loved Hari's, been to Sticky Fingers, Trafffik, Neptune etc. Share everyone's disappointment that Fenwicks is no more. Issue with the land lord and their liquor license.

Have a major preference for Korean, Japanese girls. Occasionally Mongolian when they have that "look". Seems very hard to find in Wan Chai, occasionally I get lucky in Hari's.

Can you please recommend any alternatives?

Went twice to the sauna on level B3 in the Regal Kowloon hotel (Kobe Sauna) and had very good experiences each visit. I should add: I am not used to HK saunas, this was my first visit to HK and so have no basis for comparison with similar establishments.

The place looks very upscale, like a nice spa; the two girls I had sessions with were both good looking (7-8/10) and provided excellent service (BBBJ and as much sex as you want for 90 min); for someone not used to this setup, the experience was interesting.

I was greeted by a hostess who suggested I take ‘full service 90 min’. Price was 1770hk dollars. She led me into the changing room – which was strange, by my standards. Two men helped me undress. Took my jeans, my socks, my underwear, and shirt and hang it all neatly in a closet for me. I ended up in a robe and was show into a shower. After shower, they dried my feet, gave me new dry slippers and put some black silk boxers on me (one man literally put them on me!).

I was then showed into a waiting room with comfortable chairs, where a host came to me with a laptop computer. Both times I was given a choice of 6 girls – the pictures on the computer were heavily photoshopped, but basically accurate in both cases. The man showing me the pictures told me a bit about each of the 6 girls – their main assets, skill level, service level, and in both cases I went with his recommendations. The first girl I chose, (just remember her number, 101), was a Chinese girl who had only worked for a few weeks, very pretty with nice breasts. The second was a Thai girl, May, who was gorgeous, tall, and extremely skilled.

From the waiting room, into the massage room – those rooms were okay, but small and nothing special. In each case, the girl asked if I wanted massage first. I said ‘no, first sex, then massage.’ That was fine. Both gave bbbj, one of them did the hot – cold bbbj routine – I fucked both of them in many different positions around the room: on top, bent over the bench, standing along the wall – both performed very well. Lots of sound effects, faked orgasms, nice pussy squeezing of cock, one kept saying ‘I love you, I love you’ (I think she mean to say ‘I love it’). In both cases, I came after about 45 min. Wasn’t interested in anything more and so said I would leave. That made them very concerned and I had to promises to say to the manager that there wasn’t anything wrong with the service – otherwise they would be in trouble. When I came out, the manager immediately asked whether something was wrong and I had to resassure him. They are definitely trained to please for the full 90min.

[QUOTE=Redfield10]5. Is there a good way to "do the ferry" to Macau....?? I've read where one can walk down and get a deal at the termina that includes a sauna or two. Is that a good way to do it or is it better to go just on my own and get a hotel and go from there..??

Any other info would be appreciated...it's kind of like the first time in BKK.[/QUOTE]If you stay in Macau for an ovdrnight only it is not worth to take an hotel.

HK ferry terminals offers packages of ferry+sauna, but mind you that the sauna package has - according to my knowledge - a sort of limited package. You will be tempted for extras so at the end you end up in not paying what you planned., It is not as you wil be ripped off, but it is like a meal price with appetizers and main course but no dessert and drinks.....:) Good but not a full meal as one would expect.

It goes without saying that to get all infos on Macau you should RTFF of Macau!

Thanks, but can anyone help with the rest of my questions?

[QUOTE=Bionicman]If you stay in Macau for an ovdrnight only it is not worth to take an hotel.

HK ferry terminals offers packages of ferry+sauna, but mind you that the sauna package has - according to my knowledge - a sort of limited package. You will be tempted for extras so at the end you end up in not paying what you planned., It is not as you wil be ripped off, but it is like a meal price with appetizers and main course but no dessert and drinks.....:) Good but not a full meal as one would expect.

It goes without saying that to get all infos on Macau you should RTFF of Macau![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Redfield10]
2. So I guess it'd be easy to take a cab from the airport to my hotel. So, I need to find a hotel...I'm not sure of the prices there, but I'm sure it's more expensive than BKK...so I'd be looking for somethign equivalent to the Dynasty Grande which I think is either a 3 or 4 star hotel....in BKK it's about $60 bucks a night..maybe I have to pay more in HK?? Also, I think I read where a lot of the bars are in Wanchai? Is this a good place to stay and can you recommend any hotels equivalent to say the $50 to 70 range in BKK?
[/QUOTE]
I agree with Michi. Everything in HK is at least 2-3 times more expensive than BKK. A 4-star HK hotel will be over $100 USD, bottle of beer $7 USD, and freelancer from Wanchai can be $130 for ST. In BKK, ST with a freelancer is about $30!

Wanchai is a good area to stay though. It's very tourist friendly and convenient. Most importantly, that's where the red light district is! Don't expect it to be like Soi Cowboy or Pattaya though. Unlike during the Vietnam War and prior, the red light area is only a small part of Wanchai.

I went online and chatted with few girls. One of the a virgin from Phillinpines (saw a picture, she really looked like a virgin). True or not, she was really fun to talk to. Second one was a dh working in HK. Much older then me, nice to talk to, but will not pursue. Another one was around my age, good looking, and she was fun to chat with. I think I will pursue that.

How do I make it clear that I just want fun? I'm not married, but not looking for relationship. They all ask if I have a gf, the usual … How do you work around that? Or am I chatting with the wrong girl? :)

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Thanks, but can anyone help with the rest of my questions?[/QUOTE]

Not sure if I am in agreement with Bionicman but I think he means that the sauna packages gives you the basics, return ferry tickets, choice of a gal (which sometimes can be limited) and the use of the sauna overnight to eat, sleep, etc.

I don't use the washgals to five me a semi-BJ, model/East European, etc. so the basic package is usually adequate for me. You can always upgrade anyway. its like ordering a hamburger at a diner, you have options of what you want with it and pay accordingly. What you do get by buying a package is the savings of the cost of the ferry tickets?

Also when you enter the sauna, I don't think you can leave and go back in so do everything else you want to do in Macau and go the the sauna last.

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]I went online and chatted with few girls. One of the a virgin from Phillinpines (saw a picture, she really looked like a virgin). True or not, she was really fun to talk to. Second one was a dh working in HK. Much older then me, nice to talk to, but will not pursue. Another one was around my age, good looking, and she was fun to chat with. I think I will pursue that.

How do I make it clear that I just want fun? I'm not married, but not looking for relationship. They all ask if I have a gf, the usual … How do you work around that? Or am I chatting with the wrong girl? :)

Cheers.[/QUOTE]


Loveasia,

I am no expert, but if I were approached with this issue I think I would tell the truth, but hedge my bets a little. Something like, " I don't have a girl friend right now, but I need to be sure someone is the right person before I make that commitment."
This gives the impression that more is possible, but it won't happen overnight. It also creates "incentive" for them to be nice to you, etc. I wouldn't look at it as false pretenses either, since who knows, maybe you would want one as a girlfriend in the future. Hey, stranger things have happened right?
Me on the other hand, I just find ones I like and buy them a ticket out of town.....kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it....
You know what they say about free advice......
Enjoy the ride!

Sky

Bad and good experience in the last few hours, in HK.

Tonite I made all the newbie mistakes in Wan Chai, so I had a bad experience.
Mistake 1: Went to Wan Chai very late (2.30 am), and made my choice too late (5.30 am);
Mistake 2: I drunk a little bit to much;
Mistake 3: I was after all the stunners in the area, and refused some solid 8/10;
Mistake 4: At the end, I went with a black girl, when I knew that in Asia you should with asians (and I'm really into asian gals!). The girl was a 25yo from Angola, working name Jennifer, slim, looks younger than all the black girl I saw in the area. If you met her, run away!
Mistake 5: I choose a girl that talked about money after 2 minutes of chatting;
Mistake 6: I paid her in advance. I really know it's a very strong mistake, but even if an alarm bell rang in my head, I paid her before... Really bad choice.
Well, as you can suppose, my negotiation of 2h, 2 pops, massage and everything soon became a 20m rushed session.

On the other side, thus afternoon I went to the famous 37d.
No line up was shown to me, only one girl but she was a 7/10 even if not very young (late 20s or maybe 30s...) so I accepted. No english spoken.
I had a good session, shower, bbbjcim, fs (even bbfs was offered, but of course I declined). 2 pops.
Nothing really special, but a good 50 minutes session for 490hk$.

For something really special, maybe tonite I'll take the boat to Macau, direct to Senado or one other sauna...

Thanks Sky, I will try that and see how it works out. For some reason, I always end up with another girlfriend.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]
Me on the other hand, I just find ones I like and buy them a ticket out of town.....kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it....
Sky[/QUOTE]

You can never have too much of good karma :)

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]Not sure if I am in agreement with Bionicman but I think he means that the sauna packages gives you the basics, return ferry tickets, choice of a gal (which sometimes can be limited) and the use of the sauna overnight to eat, sleep, etc.
I don't use the washgals to five me a semi-BJ, model/East European, etc. so the basic package is usually adequate for me. You can always upgrade anyway. its like ordering a hamburger at a diner, you have options of what you want with it and pay accordingly. What you do get by buying a package is the savings of the cost of the ferry tickets?
Also when you enter the sauna, I don't think you can leave and go back in so do everything else you want to do in Macau and go the the sauna last.[/QUOTE]
Correct Bob, you actually hit my point (not expecting everyone agrees with me, though!)
The way I was understanding the package seemed a great deal and wondering why not 100% of the people ferrying to Macau are not using it.
Having experienced the saunas, cost of ferry that I paid separately (I could not actually bill the company for the ferry-sauna package! lol) I understood where the deal was.
It does not mean it is a bad deal. But a newbie might think to get more that what is in the package as there are quite some grey areas: exact type of service you get, no choice of girls etc.
For instance at Rio a Shangai massage is "nothing" else than
a) girl cannot be chosen
b) girl stayed dressed with top and hotpants
c) time length is 90 minues (and one says..wowww!)
d) includes oil massage and hand job (happy ending)
cost is relatively cheaper than the soapie of course, but in the soapie you get to select the girl amongst a line up of well over 40-50, full nude massage, FS (=one pop), all in 1 hr.
But one can also have a cheaper option such as "thigh massage".

Of course upgrade are always possible, but those will kind of step up the budget one had in mind when booking the package.
Just like you get a good price for a meal and then you find out it includes only one glass of soft drink. But the glass is half a bottle size. Inevitably you upgrade and the price goes up and...the expected cost goes up, unexpectedly.
It is a bit the fully legitimate trick they set: attract the customer, then try to sell more.

You gave also a good warning on not making "in" and "out" from the same sauna.
There is always a minimum fee in each location. If you buy services for that or above, the minimum fee will be waved against the actual purchase.
But if you buy less, then the minimum fee applies.
The "clock" is zeroed everytime you leave the premises and settle your bill.
Again, all clear and legitimate, but one better know how it works.
I am going to Macau fora few days so the package option does not apply in my case, but even if I'd be in a position of an overnight I still prefer the freedom of buy the ferry separate and be free to go where I wish, get the services I wish and so.

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]I went online and chatted with few girls. One of the a virgin from Phillinpines (saw a picture, she really looked like a virgin). True or not, she was really fun to talk to. Second one was a dh working in HK. Much older then me, nice to talk to, but will not pursue. Another one was around my age, good looking, and she was fun to chat with. I think I will pursue that.

How do I make it clear that I just want fun? I'm not married, but not looking for relationship. They all ask if I have a gf, the usual … How do you work around that? Or am I chatting with the wrong girl? :)

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Maybe tell them that the way your life is organized, doesn't allow you to settle down yet (e. G. Frequent travelling, maybe kids from a previous marriage etc) but that you still need a hug and a cuddle from time to time

Most will be ready to provide you with that much needed cuddle.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Correct Bob, you actually hit my point (not expecting everyone agrees with me, though!)
The way I was understanding the package seemed a great deal and wondering why not 100% of the people ferrying to Macau are not using it.
Having experienced the saunas, cost of ferry that I paid separately (I could not actually bill the company for the ferry-sauna package! lol) I understood where the deal was.
It does not mean it is a bad deal. But a newbie might think to get more that what is in the package as there are quite some grey areas: exact type of service you get, no choice of girls etc.
For instance at Rio a Shangai massage is "nothing" else than
a) girl cannot be chosen
b) girl stayed dressed with top and hotpants
c) time length is 90 minues (and one says..wowww!)
d) includes oil massage and hand job (happy ending)
cost is relatively cheaper than the soapie of course, but in the soapie you get to select the girl amongst a line up of well over 40-50, full nude massage, FS (=one pop), all in 1 hr.
But one can also have a cheaper option such as "thigh massage".

Of course upgrade are always possible, but those will kind of step up the budget one had in mind when booking the package.
Just like you get a good price for a meal and then you find out it includes only one glass of soft drink. But the glass is half a bottle size. Inevitably you upgrade and the price goes up and...the expected cost goes up, unexpectedly.
It is a bit the fully legitimate trick they set: attract the customer, then try to sell more.

You gave also a good warning on not making "in" and "out" from the same sauna.
There is always a minimum fee in each location. If you buy services for that or above, the minimum fee will be waved against the actual purchase.
But if you buy less, then the minimum fee applies.
The "clock" is zeroed everytime you leave the premises and settle your bill.
Again, all clear and legitimate, but one better know how it works.
I am going to Macau fora few days so the package option does not apply in my case, but even if I'd be in a position of an overnight I still prefer the freedom of buy the ferry separate and be free to go where I wish, get the services I wish and so.[/QUOTE]

Not having been to Rio so not sure how they operate, but at places like Supreme (I haven't been in a while) the only difference is saving the cost of the ferry tickets and everything else was as if you were a normal walkin customer. Thing with buying a package is asking the right questions. Some places give you the choice of the gal before you leave Hong Kong by picking one out of a photo album.

As for billing, some places will give you an official reciept with something vague written on it like "travel" or "hotel package" and you might be able to claim for it.

Bionicman,

Yes, what you write is true, but it's still the case that if you're certain you want to go to a sauna in Macau then you should take one of the ferry terminal deals. You may or may not have to pay upgrades, but it will still work out cheaper, believe me.

For me, I'm not really a sauna person. I've been a few times, but I can never be sure I'll fancy it beforehand, therefore I never take them. If you are sure, snap them up.



[QUOTE=Bionicman]Correct Bob, you actually hit my point (not expecting everyone agrees with me, though!)
The way I was understanding the package seemed a great deal and wondering why not 100% of the people ferrying to Macau are not using it.
Having experienced the saunas, cost of ferry that I paid separately (I could not actually bill the company for the ferry-sauna package! lol) I understood where the deal was.
It does not mean it is a bad deal. But a newbie might think to get more that what is in the package as there are quite some grey areas: exact type of service you get, no choice of girls etc.
For instance at Rio a Shangai massage is "nothing" else than
a) girl cannot be chosen
b) girl stayed dressed with top and hotpants
c) time length is 90 minues (and one says..wowww!)
d) includes oil massage and hand job (happy ending)
cost is relatively cheaper than the soapie of course, but in the soapie you get to select the girl amongst a line up of well over 40-50, full nude massage, FS (=one pop), all in 1 hr.
But one can also have a cheaper option such as "thigh massage".

Of course upgrade are always possible, but those will kind of step up the budget one had in mind when booking the package.
Just like you get a good price for a meal and then you find out it includes only one glass of soft drink. But the glass is half a bottle size. Inevitably you upgrade and the price goes up and...the expected cost goes up, unexpectedly.
It is a bit the fully legitimate trick they set: attract the customer, then try to sell more.

You gave also a good warning on not making "in" and "out" from the same sauna.
There is always a minimum fee in each location. If you buy services for that or above, the minimum fee will be waved against the actual purchase.
But if you buy less, then the minimum fee applies.
The "clock" is zeroed everytime you leave the premises and settle your bill.
Again, all clear and legitimate, but one better know how it works.
I am going to Macau fora few days so the package option does not apply in my case, but even if I'd be in a position of an overnight I still prefer the freedom of buy the ferry separate and be free to go where I wish, get the services I wish and so.[/QUOTE]

hello,

long lurker first time posting. just got back from hk and wanted to contribute a little to the place that helped me so much.

firstly, i was there thursday and friday evenings. both days during the day i hit 37d. first day got a mid-late 20s waif, very nice body, so so face. usual service, bbbj in shower, soapy standup massage, then to the bedroom. 2 pops, good for 490. her name was kk.

second day at 37d i got a young (20ish) curvy sichuan girl. very cute face, very nice curves, maybe 5-10lbs overweight. amazing shower service, great bbbj, wonderful soapy then to the bed. she continued the "soapy" type action on the bed, i was in heaven. rubbing got intense, and before i realized i was inside and she was going at it bbfs. felt great for about 10 seconds until the big head kicked in and 'remediated' the situation. guys, always remember to listen to the brain first. i'd recommend her to everyone, her name was shirley, just be careful and make sure she knows your preference for protection early.

so for the evenings both nights obviously went to wan chai. thursday was my first night there and i had no idea what to expect. at about 11:30pm i walked in to neptune and sat at the bar. sat down, not sure how to proceed and the cutest pair of filipinas were next to me giggling and smiling. there was a shorter curvier one with short straight black hair, and a taller petite girl with wavy reddish brown hair. we chatted a bit and eventually they asked to both come back. i knew there were stories about this, but didn't expect it to happen so easily and quickly! anyway, we went back to my hotel (3 min cab away). we chatted about the price outside. i know not to talk about price early, but i wasn't sure how the 3-some pricing worked. it wound up being about hk 2k for both for the night. we went back, had some fun. about 2 hours in i realized i was having a lot more fun with the taller skinny one, and the other was getting bored and raiding my mini bar. i let her go, paid her fully, and had a blast with the girl i liked until about 8am. bbbj, shower, etc. it was made obvious bbfs was again an option, but guys remember to play it safe.

friday night i decided to hit up some other places first since i had decided beforehand i wanted a stunner chinese girl. i got there earlier (about 9:30) and walked to a few places. i checked malataki, neptune, laguna, traffik, amazonia. everything was pretty empty. i walked around the block a bit just watching some hotties walk into the places and went back to neptune. this time i saw the most beautiful petite girl in the hottest shortest dress at the bar. i took one look and i think the drool was obvious, she walked right over to me smiling. she turned out to be vietnamese and alarm bells went off, but i let the wrong head decide. (plenty of warnings about vietnamese girls). we sat and joked and left about 15 mins later. in the hotel elevator she finally asked if i wanted st or lt. i said all night of course. i don't think that was on her agenda, so she quoted me 3k. i told her i only had 2k (dumb me) and she accepted. in the room she asked to be paid first (ugh second alarm bell i ignored) and i said sure no problem. we took a shower, she gave me an excellent bbbj. went to the bed, had some very aerobic fs, i was pooped. joked a bit, and she had a couple text messages in vietnamese (this should have been alarm bell 3). she told me some cute story about how it is her friend slaving away in a hanoi coffee shop, and then told me all about hanoi. anyway, we soon went at it for round 3. daty, then more aerobic fs. quite fun. right after, she received a text message from "another friend". this "friend" was her roommate, and lost her key. the girl said she needed to run down to the lobby to give it to her friend, and would be back in 5 mins. still in bliss from the last round, i said "sure np". about 10 seconds after she closed the door i thought "damnit." of course she didn't come back. i probably would have paid 2000 for just st/3 pops, she was that hot, but it still bugs me. oh, and again, bbfs offered. think with the big head.

anyway, let that be yet another warning about the vietnamese. they're hot, they're fun, treat you like a king, then rob you and run away in the night.

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Agreeing with the general feeling here that are hot but troublesome.

January I am Fenwicks, such a shame it's gone. So I do the customary "lap", get squeezed and grabbed like a rock star, makes me feel extra special until I look behind me and see every guy that follows getting same treatment.

Finally I see what I am looking for, dead set Angel Face. Lioness Asian hair, gorgeous smile, great body, sen-freaking-sational silver dress. Tip top tits, perky Mc perk perk. Great ass, in fact great everything.

"so where are you from? " she says Vietnam but for some reason I hear Japan (so hard to hear in Fenwicks) wishfull thinking I guess.

So after a few drinks, some smooching (which I never like to do in public but it just felt so "natural" in Fenwicks) we talk coin. Starting at $3K for LT we came down to $1.5K for 2 hours. Stupidly I kept pushing for less and in a fit of absolute weakness told her "you have the face of an angel, you are the best looking most beautiful girl here." obviously that did my chances of a better price ZERO help. So I did my tried and proven move. "I'll be back" and I did another lap of the bar.

(1) Keeps the girl on her toes.

(2) lets me assess alternatives.

So I get about 3/4 way around the bar and suddenly, another vision of beauty, just as gorgeous as the first, this one in a cute little black cardigan. Ah, I love Hong Kong! So in an act of total skill and showing all my experience I pull out that line again. "you have the face of an angel, you are the best looking most beautiful girl here."

Well it kinda worked, she smiles, winks at me, kisses me on the lips and slips off her little black cardigan to reveal a sen-freaking-sational silver dress. Yes, you guessed it. Accepting my original target of $1K was now totally impossible, I was reminded of my friend's advice. "don't wear a suit to Fenwicks, you'll always pay too much! ".

Settling for $1.2K for 2 hours I had a most pleasurable evening from there on. The air con in my room was set to super cool which meant instant "bullets" for nipples which I love.

I had already located the pillow on my bed to perfectly line up with the mirror over the desk at the end of my bed, that gave me both a front POV look and also a R rated movie perspective of a fine BBBJ.

FS was great and the massage and chat afterwards also great.

I know Vietnamese girls can be a concern but this one was great. On the other hand, what really attracted her to me to begin with was her Korean / Japanese looking face. ***Anyone with hints on where to source this look in HKG much appreciated! Genuine Korean, Jap, Mongolian "look" preferred.

[QUOTE=Vijay1]Hello,

Long lurker first time posting. Just got back from HK and wanted to contribute a little to the place that helped me so much.....

....Anyway, let that be yet another warning about the Vietnamese. They're hot, they're fun, treat you like a king, then rob you and run away in the night.

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You are quite right on the Viet girls. Had a similar experience of having negotiated a LT in KL (@ the "in"famous Beach Club). She has been sweet all evenings even after she kewn the deal was secured. Had our deed with money left on the table (fair enogh). But after the "post"shower she started to say she better go as otherwise I'd not sleep (did I want to sleep lol), reminded her of the deal, etc..but then chemistrywas gone. No point in handcuffing someone to the bed (unless one is into bondage, lol) for a much possible bad service later and let her go. She was straight and honest in her way, pointing out that my watch was still there where I left it.... (could this come from some bad experience of her with some mongerer?)
Was my first viet, maybe the last. Gotta experience some pinoy in the next Asia trip in a few weeks time. Seems more appropriate on each and everything

[QUOTE=Bionicman]You are quite right on the Viet girls. Had a similar experience of having negotiated a LT in KL (@ the "in"famous Beach Club). She has been sweet all evenings even after she kewn the deal was secured. Had our deed with money left on the table (fair enogh). But after the "post"shower she started to say she better go as otherwise I'd not sleep (did I want to sleep lol), reminded her of the deal, etc..but then chemistrywas gone. No point in handcuffing someone to the bed (unless one is into bondage, lol) for a much possible bad service later and let her go. She was straight and honest in her way, pointing out that my watch was still there where I left it.... (could this come from some bad experience of her with some mongerer?)

Was my first viet, maybe the last. Gotta experience some pinoy in the next Asia trip in a few weeks time. Seems more appropriate on each and everything[/QUOTE]I think the best plan is to continue to see Vietnamese girls for the excellent service and amazing bodies, but only pay for ST since thats all we'll get either way :-D

[QUOTE=Bobby Cat]Have a major preference for Korean, Japanese girls. Occasionally Mongolian when they have that "look". Seems very hard to find in Wan Chai, occasionally I get lucky in Hari's.

Can you please recommend any alternatives? [/QUOTE]There are a smattering of Korean karaoke places around town (and I'll presume Japanese as well). Been a while since I've been to any but there were several on Jaffe Road closer to Causeway Bay as well as a couple tucked up in the streets behind/above the Miramar Hotel off Nathan Road in Wanchai. They're staffed by Koreans (and I'm going to presume that the Japanese ones bring down Japanese girls for the Japanese clients here in Hong Kong).

This is not a cheap option mind you as you will have to do the karaoke thing first. Also, you'll need to check them out a bit. I never really pulled anybody from these places but rather left with them when the places closed and dated a girl from there for a while as well.

Go search for Japanese girls in ****** site. They are all Koreans. And if you want Mongolians, then search for Koreans. Go figure. Once I asked a pseudo Japanese (Korean) girl why they change the nationalities and she said it's been always like that.

[QUOTE=Bobby Cat]Hi,

A regular visitor to HK, done and loved Hari's, been to Sticky Fingers, Trafffik, Neptune etc. Share everyone's disappointment that Fenwicks is no more. Issue with the land lord and their liquor license.

Have a major preference for Korean, Japanese girls. Occasionally Mongolian when they have that "look". Seems very hard to find in Wan Chai, occasionally I get lucky in Hari's.

Can you please recommend any alternatives?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Roark]Go search for Japanese girls in ****** site. They are all Koreans. And if you want Mongolians, then search for Koreans. Go figure. Once I asked a pseudo Japanese (Korean) girl why they change the nationalities and she said it's been always like that.[/QUOTE]

From an average Hong Kong Chinese mongers point of view there is a hierachy or ranking of value of different nationalities with ranging from Japanese, Caucasians and local Hong Kong gals near the top and Thais and Philppinos near the bottom. On the 141 websites you can tell quite easily.

From memory, when I used a hotel service that used to be very famous and run by referral basis only Elaine's, Japanese were charged at a HK$200 premium to Korean gals. Whether they were real Koreans or not, I don't know.

[QUOTE=Basah]There are a smattering of Korean karaoke places around town (and I'll presume Japanese as well). Been a while since I've been to any but there were several on Jaffe Road closer to Causeway Bay as well as a couple tucked up in the streets behind/above the Miramar Hotel off Nathan Road in Wanchai. They're staffed by Koreans (and I'm going to presume that the Japanese ones bring down Japanese girls for the Japanese clients here in Hong Kong).

This is not a cheap option mind you as you will have to do the karaoke thing first. Also, you'll need to check them out a bit. I never really pulled anybody from these places but rather left with them when the places closed and dated a girl from there for a while as well.[/QUOTE]

The places that cater to the Japanese in Causewaybay are full of Koreans and Pinoys. Many of the Koreans can speak Japanese. I've never seen a Japanese girl in one ever. They are also expensive and in my opinion not very good. They are popular with the Japanese and many of the large Japanese firms in town have accounts with these places. I believe most of the business going on in them is covered by expense accounts. I have only been in them myself when doing business with the Japanese.

While not completely devoid of gweilos rarely do you see a gweilo there, and if so they are with Japanese people.

Some of the girls on their off days, especially the pinoys, will work the clubs in Wan Chai if they need extra cash.

The vast majority of girls in these clubs have work visas and are relatively well compensated. A fair number live in the Happy Valley to Kornhill stretch. (Hey I have to have something to talk to them about while I am killing time waiting for my business associates to finish).

Saw Sharon on Sxx 1x1 DB a few weeks ago dressed in white suit looking like someone you might meet at a cocktail party or business reception. She went away then came back again on DB sans suit and in lingerie and pillow covering. Knew she would be worth trying. Called and made an appointment at R TST East.

In person she is as pretty as she is in pictures. Great face. Great Smile. Perfect tits. Nice ass and long legs. Speaks very good english. She is from Russia. Says she works at Rio in Macau but likes the work here better and more rewarding.

Usual wash and clean action in the shower followed by usual nipple lick to start. She doesn't like FK which is a detriment. Her lips are soft. Moved then to a covered BJ with cap applied expertly from mouth. Another detriment as I like a BBBJ to start. Was reluctant for DATY at first, but in 10 seconds was into it. Pussy is trimmed with nice pussy lips and sweet taste. Moved then to 69 with gusto albeit covered followed by CG, mish, doggy then back to mish when she and I both exploded. Her shuddering and me dripping. Finished with a fag and some discussions about Macau and Hong Kong.

Saw her again a second time a few days later had an even better experience!

Conclusion: Great Shag!

[quote]Second day at 37D I got a young (20ish) curvy Sichuan girl. Very cute face, very nice curves, maybe 5-10lbs overweight. Amazing Shower service, great BBBJ, wonderful soapy then to the bed. She continued the "soapy" type action on the bed, I was in heaven. Rubbing got intense, and before I realized I was inside and she was going at it BBFS. Felt great for about 10 seconds until the big head kicked in and 'remediated' the situation. Guys, always remember to listen to the brain first. I'd recommend her to everyone, her name was Shirley, just be careful and make sure she knows your preference for protection early.[/quote]I know her as "Shelly" or maybe "Sha-Li". Depending on how us gweilos interpret their English. But I agree, she is absolutely fantastic both in the shower and in bed. I've had her three times now and always ask for her every time I go to 37D. It's like a HORNY GFE! She really gets into kissing and groping as soon as we get into the room, and it's almost tempting to get to the main event with out even hitting the shower. But you do have to be careful as she will slide you right into her without protection. It feels good for a few seconds, then the big head starts screaming and reason takes over.

I've noticed that the past few times I've been to 37D that the quality (except or Shelly) has gone down. Last Thursday, mid-afternoon, I asked for Shelly and was told "day off", and then was presented with only one girl--Ming or something like that. Cute, early 20's, nice body and smile. OK experience, but no AR or DFK. To her credit, though, she went right for my nipples when we got into the room and gave them a good working over in the shower and in bed (I'm a nipple play kind of guy).

I agree it has been kind of hit or miss with the line up lately though. Not that that is going to stop me from making my monthly visit there.

I have not been around Wan Chai so much in the past year other than on weekends or to drink with the boys or to meet up with girls I already knew.

Last night found me in Wan Chai around 7:30-8:00 by myself so I thought I would do a quick tour of the place. Went to Laguna and there were 6 ugly girls and about 20 guys drinking, went into Neptunes, maybe 15 guys and only 2 girls, went to New Makati and about a dozen guys and no girls. Boracay had no one and I did not bother with either Dreams II or the place that used to be Strawberry.

It got me thinking back as recently as 2 or 3 years if you went early there were usually a few girls at the places. New Makati used to make some of their girls show up at 6:30 if they were going to be working there that night. One would think there is a business model for a place to be open and have girls for guys to pull after work. I mean saunas are busiest right after work. You look at Bangkok and Manila and they have some places starting to open as early as somewhere between 2 to 4 in the afternoon. Why do none of the discos bother to do this here? They can get all sorts of guys out to a disco on a Sunday afternoon because there are girls so how hard could it be after work. Heck there were even small number of guys in the various discos drinking and just waiting for girls to arrive - if they had girls there I am sure they would be much busier.

I know there are many other options in the early evening from saunas to 141's to yellow signs to KTVs but sometimes I want to grab someone who had reasonable english to screw and is not someone whose number I have.

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]I have not been around Wan Chai so much in the past year other than on weekends or to drink with the boys or to meet up with girls I already knew.

Last night found me in Wan Chai around 7:30-8:00 by myself so I thought I would do a quick tour of the place. Went to Laguna and there were 6 ugly girls and about 20 guys drinking, went into Neptunes, maybe 15 guys and only 2 girls, went to New Makati and about a dozen guys and no girls. Boracay had no one and I did not bother with either Dreams II or the place that used to be Strawberry.

It got me thinking back as recently as 2 or 3 years if you went early there were usually a few girls at the places. New Makati used to make some of their girls show up at 6:30 if they were going to be working there that night. One would think there is a business model for a place to be open and have girls for guys to pull after work. I mean saunas are busiest right after work. You look at Bangkok and Manila and they have some places starting to open as early as somewhere between 2 to 4 in the afternoon. Why do none of the discos bother to do this here? They can get all sorts of guys out to a disco on a Sunday afternoon because there are girls so how hard could it be after work. Heck there were even small number of guys in the various discos drinking and just waiting for girls to arrive - if they had girls there I am sure they would be much busier.

I know there are many other options in the early evening from saunas to 141's to yellow signs to KTVs but sometimes I want to grab someone who had reasonable english to screw and is not someone whose number I have.[/QUOTE]

How much business do you think a place could do on a weekday in the afternoon? Wanchai is mainly a Gweilo mongering area. Hardly any Chinese go there to pull gals. The YS, saunas do business mainly cause there are Chinese customers not expats. I don't think you can compare to Manila, BKK cause they are mongering tourist destinations whereas you always hear guys moaning on this forum how expensive mongering in Wanchai is comparitively. Most people have to work in the afternoon and the gals would not get out of bed to accomodate the one lonesome stragler that has time to kill. In a money hungry place like Hong Kong, don't you think if it was economically viable, someone would do it?

Another reason is that at 8pm you would not be drunk enough to have your beer goggles on and get that itch that needs scratching. Some of the monsters that I have seen guys stumbling out of Neptunes, etc. with I am sure they would not do if they were sober, LOL.

From the Hong Kong Government Information Services Website

[url]http://www.news.gov.hk/en/category/lawandorder/090903/html/090903en08001.htm[/url]

Police shut down a vice syndicate suspected of providing sexual services to local foreigners and arrested nine Filipino women in a Wan Chai club early this morning.
The Organised Crime & Triad Bureau got a tip that a syndicate in Wan Chai was believed to be recruiting women from the Philippines to work as domestic helpers in Hong Kong, but seducing them into prostitution instead.
Police officers raided a private club at 460 Jaffe Road and a nearby flat early this morning. They arrested four Filipino women, aged from 26 to 47, for trafficking in people for sexual purposes and managing a vice establishment.
They also arrested five other Filipino women, aged from 24 to 29, suspected of working in the private club for breach of condition of stay.

[QUOTE=Roark]Go search for Japanese girls in ****** site. They are all Koreans. And if you want Mongolians, then search for Koreans. Go figure. Once I asked a pseudo Japanese (Korean) girl why they change the nationalities and she said it's been always like that.[/QUOTE]Sorry, what site? These girls are in HKG right?

Traffik has apparently reinstated the ladies drinks policy. Was there last night and saw the chits being passed. That's so funny how they try and slip it back surreptiously. Asked the girl how long it had been back in force and she didn't know, but said they had to do it as none of the ladies were going there.

Must say though that Wednesday was really a kind of strange quiet in all venues (Laguna, Amazonia, Traffik, Neptune II, club beneath traffic, Bridge), and quality was kind of poor. Perhaps it was the beer goggles I had on. Didn't find anything to pull.

I got home from Hong Kong last night and I'm still depressed.

Stayed in East TST and was a bit scared and lazy the first few nights and stuck with SWs near my hotel. Not great, not horrible either. Still better than some US places I've wasted more money in.

Finally drug my ass to Neptunes and was amazed. The biggest shock is how normal most of the girls look! Sure, there are some slutty looking girls and some obvious ones but the majority are dressed quite normally.

I'm a gentleman so I'm not going to report on my adventures except to say that it was more like buying a wife for a day and less like visiting a massage parlor or escort in America.

The Africans grab your arm as you walk past and that was a turn off.- they were not that hot either.- and I had an AMAZING Cambodian girl named Swam come up to me and she wanted HK $2K for the whole night which was a little high and it was early and I was a bit intimidated by how hot she was.- performance issues, fellas.

The second night there I got some weird vibes.- one girl announcing she had her period and couldn't go out after I bought some drinks and how I could find her in a few days; or the girls who I thought were going to go home with me in a pair but who suddenly got scared and wanted to see my ID card?

Turns out there had been a bust there the night before and everyone was a bit skittish.- how does a fat, white American like me look like HK police?

Anyway, my regrets are not going there more often. Just amazing.

I did a quick run through Amazonia, Traffik and another place early in the night and they looked dead so I went back to Neptunes.

I think of how great my experiences were and then remember all of the girls I didn't hook up with and want to go back right away.

Fellas, I've never wanted to be married before but waking up next to a good natured Filippino woman in a luxury hotel room made me rethink that aversion.

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[QUOTE=Bob Builder]How much business do you think a place could do on a weekday in the afternoon? Wanchai is mainly a Gweilo mongering area. Hardly any Chinese go there to pull gals. The YS, saunas do business mainly cause there are Chinese customers not expats. I don't think you can compare to Manila, BKK cause they are mongering tourist destinations whereas you always hear guys moaning on this forum how expensive mongering in Wanchai is comparitively. Most people have to work in the afternoon and the gals would not get out of bed to accomodate the one lonesome stragler that has time to kill. In a money hungry place like Hong Kong, don't you think if it was economically viable, someone would do it?

Another reason is that at 8pm you would not be drunk enough to have your beer goggles on and get that itch that needs scratching. Some of the monsters that I have seen guys stumbling out of Neptunes, etc. with I am sure they would not do if they were sober, LOL.[/QUOTE]

I realize that Wan Chai will never be Bangkok or Manila as it is not a mongering destination but rather a nice playground for those of us who live here and people passing through on business.

I should have been more exact in what I wrote. I did not mean that places should be open in the afternoon but rather I think a club that started to have girls around 6:30 to 7:00 when people are getting off work could do OK. Obviouly not all the clubs could do this simulateously but if one was doing it they might do alright. My point with the saunas was their busiest time is right after work, not that the Chinese cliental would visit the Wan Chai discos if they had girls there right after work.

[QUOTE=Beijing Lover]From the Hong Kong Government Information Services Website

[url]http://www.news.gov.hk/en/category/lawandorder/090903/html/090903en08001.htm[/url]

Police shut down a vice syndicate suspected of providing sexual services to local foreigners and arrested nine Filipino women in a Wan Chai club early this morning.
The Organised Crime & Triad Bureau got a tip that a syndicate in Wan Chai was believed to be recruiting women from the Philippines to work as domestic helpers in Hong Kong, but seducing them into prostitution instead.
Police officers raided a private club at 460 Jaffe Road and a nearby flat early this morning. They arrested four Filipino women, aged from 26 to 47, for trafficking in people for sexual purposes and managing a vice establishment.
They also arrested five other Filipino women, aged from 24 to 29, suspected of working in the private club for breach of condition of stay.[/QUOTE]

460 Jaffe Road. That's got to be one of the clubs targeting Japanese or Koreans no?

No doubt I'm being an idiot, but can someone explain

" Sharon on Sxx 1x1 DB"

[QUOTE=Asia Travler]Saw Sharon on Sxx 1x1 DB a few weeks ago dressed in white suit looking like someone you might meet at a cocktail party or business reception. She went away then came back again on DB sans suit and in lingerie and pillow covering. Knew she would be worth trying. Called and made an appointment at R TST East.

In person she is as pretty as she is in pictures. Great face. Great Smile. Perfect tits. Nice ass and long legs. Speaks very good english. She is from Russia. Says she works at Rio in Macau but likes the work here better and more rewarding.

Usual wash and clean action in the shower followed by usual nipple lick to start. She doesn't like FK which is a detriment. Her lips are soft. Moved then to a covered BJ with cap applied expertly from mouth. Another detriment as I like a BBBJ to start. Was reluctant for DATY at first, but in 10 seconds was into it. Pussy is trimmed with nice pussy lips and sweet taste. Moved then to 69 with gusto albeit covered followed by CG, mish, doggy then back to mish when she and I both exploded. Her shuddering and me dripping. Finished with a fag and some discussions about Macau and Hong Kong.

Saw her again a second time a few days later had an even better experience!

Conclusion: Great Shag![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]I realize that Wan Chai will never be Bangkok or Manila as it is not a mongering destination but rather a nice playground for those of us who live here and people passing through on business.

I should have been more exact in what I wrote. I did not mean that places should be open in the afternoon but rather I think a club that started to have girls around 6:30 to 7:00 when people are getting off work could do OK. Obviouly not all the clubs could do this simulateously but if one was doing it they might do alright. My point with the saunas was their busiest time is right after work, not that the Chinese cliental would visit the Wan Chai discos if they had girls there right after work.[/QUOTE]

Don't see it happening. If you are really desparate for a Wanchai fix in the afternoon, most guys collect the digits of gals they meet at night and I have friends who have had cheaper deals from the gogo bars in the afternoon.

There is a time the gals do start early and that is when the navy is in town because there is the volume of business.

Anyways I see getting a gal is usually the last thing most guys do after booze, food and more booze.

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]Anyways I see getting a gal is usually the last thing most guys do after booze, food and more booze.[/QUOTE]I agree! In fact one of my fave things to do, is to scout around and pic something I like and exchange mobile numbers. I have a HK sim card I slip into my cell on arrival which means I can give me number out freely without being concerned I will get calls at 5am when I get home. Don't think wife would see the funny side.

Giving out my mobile number the night before also has other benefits. I can chat and get to know her a little, talk price, discuss the service etc. It also means I can call her in the late afternoon the following day if I want an early start.

Several times I have set up a 7pm get together, say 2 hrs, then I can go out afterwards and drink as much as I want. Even take the girl with me and buy her a few drinks, no pressure, no drama. A few times I have been offered a special deal on a double header or even a comp service doing this.

HK phone cards are cheap HK$100 inc stored value $110. You can keep the same number providing you top up the value every 6 months.

Can someone tell me what are the current going "rates" for LT and TLN??
I don't want to get the WG used to inflated rates
Many Thanks

I just returned on Wednesday and am planning my return trip for Christmas.

I was told by two girls that the clubs are open during the holidays. Is this correct?

I am thinking of staying at the Cosmo on Queens Road. Is it girl friendly, nice?

I want a nice, not too fancy hotel somewhere relatively close to Wan Chai.

I didn't have any problems bringing girls back to the International Grand Stanford but I realize now that I didn't need something so pricey/fancy.

AND how do I find out the schedule for the Navy? I don't want to go if the Navy is in town during the Christmas break.

Thanks!

Artful,

"No doubt I'm being an idiot, but can someone explain

" Sharon on Sxx 1x1 DB" "

The reference is s.e.x. 1.4.1 site,
Search the Hong Kong forum for 141.

Sharon is listed as hotel reservation girl in their database, look under Kowloon TST section.

TK

See for my other posts for my other adventures but it's worth noting that I did go to Jordan Sauna in Mongkok after trying and failing to find 37 Dundas.

Place is surprisingly nice inside. You ride up a private elevator to the lobby. You check in and lock your stuff up in a locker with the key being on a bracelet. You get towel and shower yourself in common shower room type thing (or you can use the sauna if you want) and then you get shorts and bathrobe and slippers and get shown to room with a girl. No line-up was offered to me.

It was a Thursday afternoon and I was the only customer at the time.

The rooms are dark with black-painted walls which is creepy. The girl was cute, not stunning, and very perky considering the locale. I paid for the 90 minute session. Fantastic massage and then energetic CBJ and very energetic CFS. Just great. The setting made me think I wasn't going to be able to perform or enjoy the session, but I did!

My grand total for the 90 minute adventure was HK$725 which was only because I overtipped when offered the tip jar near the lockers. Still, that's less than US$100 and was worth it surely.

The two guys working there were relatively friendly.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]
I am thinking of staying at the Cosmo on Queens Road. Is it girl friendly, nice?

[/QUOTE]

No problem in this hotel or the one next door - the Cosmopolitan. Have stayed in both and have booked it for November. Good value. After 12midnight they might have someone on a desk at the elevator and tick your room number but thats all. After a couple of nights and a friendly nod, they did not even bother to do that

[QUOTE=Beijing Lover]From the Hong Kong Government Information Services Website

[url]http://www.news.gov.hk/en/category/lawandorder/090903/html/090903en08001.htm[/url]

Police shut down a vice syndicate suspected of providing sexual services to local foreigners and arrested nine Filipino women in a Wan Chai club early this morning.
The Organised Crime & Triad Bureau got a tip that a syndicate in Wan Chai was believed to be recruiting women from the Philippines to work as domestic helpers in Hong Kong, but seducing them into prostitution instead.
Police officers raided a private club at 460 Jaffe Road and a nearby flat early this morning. They arrested four Filipino women, aged from 26 to 47, for trafficking in people for sexual purposes and managing a vice establishment.
They also arrested five other Filipino women, aged from 24 to 29, suspected of working in the private club for breach of condition of stay.[/QUOTE]A quick search turned this information up for that address from Hong Kong the government's list of "Licensed hotels, guesthouses, clubs, bedspace apartments, and karaoke establishments."

Name: JR CLUB
Address: 4/F, Yeung Iu Chi Commercial Building,460-462 Jaffe Road,Causeway Bay, Hong Kong.
District: Wan Chai District
Tel: 2575 4346

However, Causeway Bay is not really in Wan Chai, it is the next neighborhood to the east. It looks to be near Percival Street, 3 blocks from the Causeway Bay MTR station and seven blocks or so from Victoria Park.

I've stayed at many. My favorite is GDH Wharney. Do a Google search for their website. Usually if you book 2 weeks prior to arrival the rates drop to approx $550-650HK. It is several steps away from Amazonia and between Laguna and Neptune II. It is semi luxury, GF friendly and without doubt the best location in Wanchai. Happy Hunting.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I just returned on Wednesday and am planning my return trip for Christmas.

I was told by two girls that the clubs are open during the holidays. Is this correct?

I am thinking of staying at the Cosmo on Queens Road. Is it girl friendly, nice?

I want a nice, not too fancy hotel somewhere relatively close to Wan Chai.

I didn't have any problems bringing girls back to the International Grand Stanford but I realize now that I didn't need something so pricey/fancy.

AND how do I find out the schedule for the Navy? I don't want to go if the Navy is in town during the Christmas break.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Are you referring to the clubs in Wanchai such as Traffic and Neptune? If so, yes they are open over Xmas, although I don't know about Christmas night, they're certainly open every other night. (They may well be open Xmas night, it's just I can't say for sure).

The Cosmo is a fine hotel and is also GF. However, I usually stay at the Empire in Wanchai.. It's a proper 4 star hotel and the rooms are reliable, it's very close to all the action and the price is v reasonalbe, around 60 EUROS/night.

Re: navy schedule. I don't know about that. Wish I did.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I just returned on Wednesday and am planning my return trip for Christmas.

I was told by two girls that the clubs are open during the holidays. Is this correct?

I am thinking of staying at the Cosmo on Queens Road. Is it girl friendly, nice?

I want a nice, not too fancy hotel somewhere relatively close to Wan Chai.

I didn't have any problems bringing girls back to the International Grand Stanford but I realize now that I didn't need something so pricey/fancy.

AND how do I find out the schedule for the Navy? I don't want to go if the Navy is in town during the Christmas break.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Thanks Artful; the Empire looks very nice.

I really have to find out when the Navy will be in town because I dread going to Neptunes II if the sailors are there. It will be like trying to pull at a high school dance all over again.

Part of my sadness at now being home from Hong Kong is the fact that I was too scared/lazy to go to Wan Chai my first four days In Hong Kong.

I think of all the money I've wasted at spas and massage parlors in America when the experiences and women are so much better in Hong Kong.

Okay. Happened again.

Was in Laguna several weeks back. Bought a ladies drink. Women behind the bar would not give the girl a chit or money. Swore I wouldn't go back.

Went back on Sunday. Accosted by two domestic helper sisters, both of whom I have partied with, one of whom I've slept with, the other who I was supposed to have (funny to have them each kiss me on the cheek at the same time, supposedly not knowing my relationship with the other except for "Dis is my friend.!"

Now, last time with each of these women I bought $1, 000 worth of drinks, probably more. They got their chits/money. They both told me they did. So tonight, after the last experience, when they both asked for drinks (I was there for maybe 3 minutes when this happened) I asked the waitress so as to confrim that the extra I was going to pay for the drinks that the ladies would get their due.

"You haven't given me a tip" says the waitress, same as the bartender.

WTF is this? ! ? Anybody got any idea. I mean, I've been in Laguna for a while. Steady. But it seems that they are adopting the abandoned Traffik policy. I mean, it's not like I don't know that there is money that comes back to the girls. Hell, that's why I buy the drinks, but what is this with the 'no tip for me' bull sh*t?

Was at Makati earlier on and the manager there bought drinks for me, again because I was there for a while, was a steady drinker, and was entertaining some people. God, if only I could get the people from Laguna to switch to Makati on a regular basis. Hell of a lot better place!

Basah

[QUOTE=Artful]No doubt I'm being an idiot, but can someone explain

" Sharon on Sxx 1x1 DB"[/QUOTE][blue][Link deleted by Admin][/blue] remove the underscores and spaces. It is a decent site to find reviews of organized brothels.

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[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]No problem in this hotel or the one next door - the Cosmopolitan. Have stayed in both and have booked it for November. Good value. After 12midnight they might have someone on a desk at the elevator and tick your room number but thats all. After a couple of nights and a friendly nod, they did not even bother to do that[/QUOTE]Are there any hotels that aren't girl friendly? I stayed in the Novotel Century last time, which is a 5-10 min walk, or 2 min cab ride from Jaffe and Fenwick.

I am very attracted to ladies with very large breasts, sometimes from from plump ladies, asian or foreigner are both fine, any recommendations on where I can find them in HK?

Hope to hear from you.

[QUOTE=Mongerer69]I've stayed at many. My favorite is GDH Wharney. Do a Google search for their website. Usually if you book 2 weeks prior to arrival the rates drop to approx $550-650HK. It is several steps away from Amazonia and between Laguna and Neptune II. It is semi luxury, GF friendly and without doubt the best location in Wanchai. Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]

It's really a long shot to call the Wharney even semi-luxury but it is certainly comfortable enough although the rooms are Hong Kong smallish.

It is in the center of the action, location is great but in my opinion too good. I prefer slightly further away as I like to take the girl LT. If you are in the middle of the action, your prize for the night may decide to leave early and double down on her earnings.

There are several hotels within a 15 minute walk of Wanchai entertainment area, less than HK$20 for a taxi.

If you look hard enough, you may be able to get the Wharney (alternate name *****ny) for around 400HKD but at Christmas time (any holiday or during exhibitions) expect prices to be much more expensive.

Yellow Fever

Unfortunately, I deleted the one photo I had of the girl but I guess she deserves a report.

On Friday, after spending all day in Macau, and being a bit exhausted.- and falling in the MTR but that's another story.- I went to Sticky Fingers on Mody Road near my hotel. I had a HOT Thai girl tell me that all night/LT was HK$15, 000. At the time, I said "F that! " but I left only to realize later that it was probably a language gap issue and that she meant HK$1500 most likely and didn't know the words "15 hundred" or something.

I am pretty sure that I saw her one of the times I went to Neptune's II in the crowd.

So on Mody Road there are indeed SWs and they are usually out after 10 PM. There's one that looks like Zhou Xun (look her up) and who dresses nice.- very respectable looking, black dress, black stockings.- I think she would have been decent. I should have taken her. And there's another slightly plump Chinese girl that wears a nice red dress who I almost took.

And there was Tina (see my report in the photo gallery). In fact, after choosing Tina, we walked past the red dress girl arm-in-arm only to have her and Tina get into a mini-argument.

So this Friday, I was lazy and let myself get ripped off a tiny bit.

I had an older mamasan in the park across the street from my hotel (Grand Stanford) offer me a big breasted Chinese girl. In fact there were two mamasans. It didn't feel like a good deal but I was exhausted, it was still hot at 2:00 AM, and I wasn't thinking clearly.

So the girl's name was Xiao Yue or Yue Xiao, not sure of the order as she showed me on her cell phone. She was quite pale and looked half Russian or something. Reddish hair and big, hanging natural breasts.

We go back having settled on HK$1K for two pops two hours. However, we get back and the conditions begin. She even called her mamasan on the cell phone and had me try to talk to her. I could see where this was going.

We both showered and, after some protestations, finally she got down to a BBBJ which was good. She had asked for more money before anything was done and I told her after the first time we'll see.

So I wanted to be done, frankly. So, not proud to admit it, but I had her get on her knees on a bath towel next to the bed, stick out her tongue and we enacted the ending shot of many a fine adult film from America.

Admittedly, I was taking advantage of her willingness and she giggled after I completed as she was moping up her face. She didn't seem to be embarassed or anything.

So I gave her another HK$200 and had her leave. She was happy and wanted me to call her again.

So HK$1200 (US$150? ) for that experience? Was it worth it? Well, I got to live out a fantasy that I probably will never live out in an Asian MP in the States, so it was okay. I probably wouldn't repeat but it was a nice memory.

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[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]It's really a long shot to call the Wharney even semi-luxury but it is certainly comfortable enough although the rooms are Hong Kong smallish.

It is in the center of the action, location is great but in my opinion too good. I prefer slightly further away as I like to take the girl LT. If you are in the middle of the action, your prize for the night may decide to leave early and double down on her earnings.

There are several hotels within a 15 minute walk of Wanchai entertainment area, less than HK$20 for a taxi.

If you look hard enough, you may be able to get the Wharney (alternate name *****ny) for around 400HKD but at Christmas time (any holiday or during exhibitions) expect prices to be much more expensive.

Yellow Fever[/QUOTE]I agree about the Wharney.

South Pacific Hotel on Morrison Hill Rd (near Happy Valley. Talk about a perfect name LOL) is OK, rooms are comfortable but smallish, no problem to bring girls in with you, no problem for them to come up to your room on their own.

HK$600 'ish /nite except during the bigger fairs. I have had a suite several times for HK$1K which is great!

7/11 store 2 mins walk should you need supplies. Min Fare HK$18 cab ride from Jaffe or Lockhart.

Less than 10 mins walk to Times Square.

[QUOTE=Basah]Okay. Happened again.
...
Was in Laguna several weeks back. "You haven't given me a tip" says the waitress, same as the bartender.
...
WTF is this? !
Basah[/QUOTE]
You could answer: "you did not rub my dick and my balls and you are not going to come to my hotel."
Worst case scenario she might accept the deal..:)
Then, of course, it is up to you to check her goods and her deal!
Maybe you open a new trend

[QUOTE=Bionicman]You could answer: "you did not rub my dick and my balls and you are not going to come to my hotel."[/QUOTE]Lol. Indeed. I think that will be my answer were there a next time (as there always is).

[QUOTE=Bionicman]You could answer: "you did not rub my dick and my balls and you are not going to come to my hotel."

Worst case scenario she might accept the deal..:)

Then, of course, it is up to you to check her goods and her deal!

Maybe you open a new trend[/QUOTE]Reminds me that their used to be a sweet half Nepalese half something or other as waitress in Laguna a few years back when I visited HK regularly.

She knew me from Laguna, but one day saw her in MTR. So we chatted then went for a drink in Causeway Bay in bar close to my hotel.

Was thinking that maybe I could get an unusual score when the phone rang with some boss emergency and had to go back to room for some long involved email. She didn't want to wait. Ah well. I'm sure a few guys will remember the said lady. Cutest of the Laguna ladies from 3 years or so back.

Here is my 2 cents worth: I went to Laguna last weekend, I already had a few so my judgment was affected. I bought a drink and started chatting with this waitress I know, after couple of minutes she says "will you buy me a drink"? Well, I chat with her every time I go there, so I thought ... hell, why not? So she had a shot, and ... well, nothing wrong with that, but I never had a waitress ask me for a drink. They are either looking to extract max. amount of money from customers, or she is hinting that she wants to make money on a side. Well, she is not that cute, so I wouldn't pursue it.

Not a big deal, but I thought I would share.

[QUOTE=Basah]Okay. Happened again.

Was in Laguna several weeks back. Bought a ladies drink. Women behind the bar would not give the girl a chit or money. Swore I wouldn't go back.

Went back on Sunday. Accosted by two domestic helper sisters, both of whom I have partied with, one of whom I've slept with, the other who I was supposed to have (funny to have them each kiss me on the cheek at the same time, supposedly not knowing my relationship with the other except for "Dis is my friend.!"

Now, last time with each of these women I bought $1, 000 worth of drinks, probably more. They got their chits/money. They both told me they did. So tonight, after the last experience, when they both asked for drinks (I was there for maybe 3 minutes when this happened) I asked the waitress so as to confrim that the extra I was going to pay for the drinks that the ladies would get their due.

"You haven't given me a tip" says the waitress, same as the bartender.

WTF is this? ! ? Anybody got any idea. I mean, I've been in Laguna for a while. Steady. But it seems that they are adopting the abandoned Traffik policy. I mean, it's not like I don't know that there is money that comes back to the girls. Hell, that's why I buy the drinks, but what is this with the 'no tip for me' bull sh*t?

Was at Makati earlier on and the manager there bought drinks for me, again because I was there for a while, was a steady drinker, and was entertaining some people. God, if only I could get the people from Laguna to switch to Makati on a regular basis. Hell of a lot better place!

Basah[/QUOTE]

I had an overnight in HK. With a bit of time to spare and a nice evening, I decided to check out the local 141 scene a bit. I typically stay on HK island, this hop stop I was in Tsim Sha Tsui, close to the China ferry bld. I searched over the 141 site to find a good selection at Hankow apts, just a few blocks over.

I had a bit of a strange initial experience. I don't much like the street touts trying to sell copy watches, suits, and such. I'd just arrived at the right address and some Indian looking fellow with wild hair walked in behind me. He chatted a bit as I hit the elevator button. I told him repeatedly I was not interested in what he was selling. I got in the elevator and to my surprise, so did he. Up to the 6th floor and he stepped out after me. Ok. This is getting strange. I figured he was going to press his way into a few bucks one way or another.

I rang miss Coco's bell and just as she opened the door, Mr strange started to barge in talking in Cantonese. Ah ha. I see the angle. He was selling his services as my guide for the evening, asking miss Coco for 200. I stepped in and shut the door behind me. You could see the little creep in the video camera standing at the door. After a few minutes he actually rang the bell again. Pissed me off. I stepped out and asked him to translate one more item. Beat it. And he left.

Anyway. On to Coco. She looks like the photos on the website. A few years older my guess. I'd say she's 30ish, perhaps more. Still a great body. Enhanced boobs and that flat Chinese butt. Good hairy muff. Anyway, she seemed nice enough, invited me into the shower and off we went.

About the only thing I don't care for much about the 141 scene is it's all done in a bit of a rush. There's a smile there and a bit of grace to it all, but little time to relax before or after.

The other nit. I think the phone rang 2 times and she did watch TV a bit during the BBJ.

Good thing is the price/performance is not all that bad if you're simply looking for a quick bang. I suppose it's perfect for the local gents that only have 30 min for lunch and want to catch some tail with time left over for a bite to eat before heading back to work.

Summary. 141 is a sure and quick thing. The ladies I've visited are all nice enough physically. The price tag aint all that bad. And she'll leave you out the door freshly showered in 15 minutes or less.

Miss Coco. If she didn't rush things and would have offered something other than BBJ to covered Mission, I'd be a more frequent visitor to this establishment. Another nit. If you're much over 6', you'll likely find the confines of their little rooms a bit tight.

Looks. 7. Likely a bit nicer when the photos on the website were taken 5-10 years back Service. 5. Basic service Attitude. 5. A bit too rushed for my taste Convenience. 9. You just have to be able to read a map a little and 141 is right around every corner in HK.

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Okay, so I finally arrived in Hong Kong and decided to head for Wan Chai. I almost regret it. Headed to Laguna at about 9:30 PM where I met this Filipino in her own little black dress. Simply amazing! There was no other way to describe it.

We danced for a bit and then the question of a lady drink came up. No longer thinking with my big head anymore, I agreed. 80 HKD down the drain (including tip for the waitress). She was served something with whipped cream on top the looked kind of weird, but I don't know any better. Anyway, it seemed that she was working at the bar and kept trying to pawn me off on one of her friends (not my type. A bit overweight).

At one point she encouraged me to try the drink, funny looking into those eyes of hers, the warning bells of taking something from somebody else in a foreign bar in a foreign country, just weren't going off. It didn't taste like just whipped cream. Anyway, I asked her about leaving and she told me that her manager wouldn't let her leave yet.

..

It couldn't be possible could it. Not this level of cruelty? I was with one of the hottest girls and she flat out said "no." Not willing to be beaten on my first attempt, I asked her about tomorrow. She agreed. Just call anytime and here's the phone number. I left at about 10: 30.

Now the question to the group is: Has this ever happened to anybody before and does the guy ever get the girl? ! ?

BTW, On a side note, it's been two and a half hours after seeing her and my heart is still racing. And no, it's not love. It feels like I've consumed a case of Red Bull. Could it be related to the lady drink or the enormous amount of walking to get from Wan Chai back to my hotel?

[QUOTE=Mr Mongerer]

Now the question to the group is: Has this ever happened to anybody before and does the guy ever get the girl? ! ?[/QUOTE]Sounds strange. If she leaves early with you for a ST she still has time enough to be back in the bar for a second round with another guy.

I go to China often and have experienced the high end KTV scene in shanghai, zhuhai and also in macau.

I've been to some lower end places in mong kok. I wandered into a club in tst called club bboss or something like that. Very gaudy and totally empty.

My question for you guys is. Are there any nice places on Hong Kong side with quality girls? Would prefer someone where takeout is guaranteed. I've heard of some wanchai places but don't know the names or locations.

Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Basah]Okay. Happened again.

Was in Laguna several weeks back. Bought a ladies drink. Women behind the bar would not give the girl a chit or money. Swore I wouldn't go back.

Now, last time with each of these women I bought $1,000 worth of drinks, probably more. They got their chits/money.

"You haven't given me a tip" says the waitress, same as the bartender.

WTF is this? ! ?
I mean, it's not like I don't know that there is money that comes back to the girls. Hell, that's why I buy the drinks, but what is this with the 'no tip for me' bull sh*t? [/QUOTE]

Don't be offended but she's telling you, you are a putz.

HK$1,000 might be nothing to some but pissing away what she probably makes in 2-3 days lowers you in her eyes immeasureably. Added to this the race thing - she's probably Chinese/Nepalese (with ID/permit) and the lady-drinks are for Filipinas (14-day visitors).

I have also seen a Sri Lankan waiter treat a slightly drunk Undersecretary in the Ministry of Finance in Oman with absolute contempt several times in an evening of playing pool, drinking and old boys' networking.

Hi

I was planning to use hk141 hotel reservation services on my next trip to HK but a post below in this thread had me wondering: do we need to go to the girl's hotel or do they come to our hotel ? What find of long time prices are to be expected ?

Besides where can I get an english user friendly listing of saunas with the adresses ?

Cheers
Luis

[quote=mr mongerer]it couldn't be possible could it. not this level of cruelty? i was with one of the hottest girls and she flat out said "no." not willing to be beaten on my first attempt, i asked her about tomorrow. she agreed. just call anytime and here's the phone number. i left at about 10: 30.

btw, on a side note, it's been two and a half hours after seeing her and my heart is still racing. and no, it's not love. it feels like i've consumed a case of red bull. could it be related to the lady drink or the enormous amount of walking to get from wan chai back to my hotel?[/quote]

there could be many reasons for this. she could be a newbie and trying to get comfortable with the scene. she could be waiting for a special friend. or she could be on the rag, or maybe she was one of these girls that prefer making money on drinks instead and not entertaining the idea of going out. or she could be under the direction of her manager. you can try calling her to see if you can get a late afternoon tryst.

the next time you are in laguna and if you see something you like, before you buy any drinks, ask her whether she is only there for drinks or whether she goes out. if she goes out, then strike a deal, and take her out then and there, to a normal bar like spicy fingers for example or the bars around the right corner from laguna, where its quieter and enjoy yourself and away from her friends and there are no ladies drinks. what you save in ladies drinks you can add to her tip it the end.

as for your speedy feeling, did you at any time in the evening leave your drink unattended? it could be a combination of things or the heat.

[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]Don't be offended but she's telling you, you are a putz.[/QUOTE]Doubt it. Different people in different parts of the bar. In the first instance, it was a girl who worked behind the bar at the opposite side of where I was sitting, and as you know, it can be crowded and in the light would be impossible to see across the bar. The second woman didn't work either bar but was a waitress, hence wouldn't have been involved in either set of drinks. Additionally, I saw both ladies getting passed their chits during the first encounters with them.

I think what you're telling me is you think I'm a putz for spending a grand on drinks, which is fine. As they say, opinions are like atssholes. Everyone's got one.

[QUOTE=Bblover]I am very attracted to ladies with very large breasts, sometimes from from plump ladies, asian or foreigner are both fine, any recommendations on where I can find them in HK?

Hope to hear from you.[/QUOTE]Sure there were, I knew there are quite a lot local girls those willing to go with foreigners.

Hi

Sorry but I don't have the yellow fever. I am living here. Anyone know where I can find any old soviets in HK. And at worst where is good in Macua.

Cheers,

Nick

Can anyone tell me the best way to travel from the HK airport to the Empire hotel Wanchai taking into consideration both the hassle factor and also prices? It looks like there is an MRT station closeby maybe?

I will be arrivng at 20:15 P.M. on a Sunday if that makes any difference.

Thanks, guys.

I always just take the Airport Express, then a taxi, especially if I have heavy bags with me. I do think though there's a bus shuttle that stops right at the hotel as I've taken it on my way back to the airport, but it takes a lot longer I think about 1.5 hours. I've never taken this bus from the airport to the hotel I'm afraid so i can't tell you where to pick it up.

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Can anyone tell me the best way to travel from the HK airport to the Empire hotel Wanchai taking into consideration both the hassle factor and also prices? It looks like there is an MRT station closeby maybe?

I will be arrivng at 20:15 P.M. on a Sunday if that makes any difference.

Thanks, guys.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Can anyone tell me the best way to travel from the HK airport to the Empire hotel Wanchai taking into consideration both the hassle factor and also prices? It looks like there is an MRT station closeby maybe?

I will be arrivng at 20:15 P.M. on a Sunday if that makes any difference.

Thanks, guys.[/QUOTE]

Buy an octapus card at the arrivals hall and then take your pick. Metro or bus.

[url]http://www.johomaps.com/as/hongkong/hkmetro_ch.html[/url]

[url]http://www.nwstbus.com.hk/routes/routeinfo.aspx?intLangID=1&searchtype=1&routenumber=A11&route=A11&routetype=D&company=5&exactMatch=yes[/url]

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Can anyone tell me the best way to travel from the HK airport to the Empire hotel Wanchai taking into consideration both the hassle factor and also prices? It looks like there is an MRT station closeby maybe?

I will be arrivng at 20:15 P.M. on a Sunday if that makes any difference.

Thanks, guys.[/QUOTE]

1. Call the hotel and they will tell you how to get there easily.
2. There are many Airport buses. Buses take Hong Kong dollars only.
Change currency at the airport or use ATM. It is cheaper but slower.
3. Metro does not go to the Airport. Only Airport express goes to Airport.
You can take Airport express train.
Taxi from the Airport is expensive but for short distances it is cheap.
4. Buses run 24/7 although frequency maybe different.
5. For Wanchai, Take airport express to Central (Last) station. Take MTR to Wanchai (2 stops). Airport express takes only 20 minutes and it is 100 hong kong dollars the last time I checked.
6. Wanchai is really a confusing mess of streets. Better take taxi from Wanchai station to the hotel.

[QUOTE=Sammon]1. Call the hotel and they will tell you how to get there easily.
2. There are many Airport buses. Buses take Hong Kong dollars only.
Change currency at the airport or use ATM. It is cheaper but slower.
3. Metro does not go to the Airport. Only Airport express goes to Airport.
You can take Airport express train.
Taxi from the Airport is expensive but for short distances it is cheap.
4. Buses run 24/7 although frequency maybe different.
5. For Wanchai, Take airport express to Central (Last) station. Take MTR to Wanchai (2 stops). Airport express takes only 20 minutes and it is 100 hong kong dollars the last time I checked.
6. Wanchai is really a confusing mess of streets. Better take taxi from Wanchai station to the hotel.[/QUOTE]
Please note that there is a free shuttle bus from the airport express to all the major hotels and also the Empire hotel. (take the H1 bus, not the H2 one which does not go to Empire)

You just need to get off the airport express Central station and you're at the queue for this free shuttle bus.

Service hour though is only 06:12 to 23:12 (20 minutes interval) and thus don't know if you can make it. If not, the taxi rank with a ton of taxis lining up to get passengers is also there and it should not take you more than HK$30/US$4 to get to Empire Hotel.

If you want an even cheaper way, (and a bit of sightseeing on the way!) its by the aiport bus #A11 from the ground floor of the airport, and it costs HK$40 (20-25 minute interval). Make sure you have exact change or else buy an octopus card upon arrival which you can use whilst in Hong Kong for lots of things including 7-11, starbucks etc and of course all the public transport - one of the best and most convenient card in the whole world IMHO.

Get off at stop #9 which is Luard road on Hennessy road - and you're a block or so away from the Empire hotel and will take you less than 80 minutes depending on traffic.

SEAJ

Thanks everyone. Can't say I"m not still a bit confused with the differing suggestions. Ha. Someone did tell me SE Asian Joe's suggestion of the #A11 was the way to go as it will stop a block away from my hotel.

If all else fails, I'll just hail a taxi apparently.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Please note that there is a free shuttle bus from the airport express to all the major hotels and also the Empire hotel. (take the H1 bus, not the H2 one which does not go to Empire)

You just need to get off the airport express Central station and you're at the queue for this free shuttle bus.

Service hour though is only 06:12 to 23:12 (20 minutes interval) and thus don't know if you can make it. If not, the taxi rank with a ton of taxis lining up to get passengers is also there and it should not take you more than HK$30/US$4 to get to Empire Hotel.

If you want an even cheaper way, (and a bit of sightseeing on the way!) its by the aiport bus #A11 from the ground floor of the airport, and it costs HK$40 (20-25 minute interval). Make sure you have exact change or else buy an octopus card upon arrival which you can use whilst in Hong Kong for lots of things including 7-11, starbucks etc and of course all the public transport - one of the best and most convenient card in the whole world IMHO.

Get off at stop #9 which is Luard road on Hennessy road - and you're a block or so away from the Empire hotel and will take you less than 80 minutes depending on traffic.

SEAJ[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Can anyone tell me the best way to travel from the HK airport to the Empire hotel Wanchai taking into consideration both the hassle factor and also prices? It looks like there is an MRT station closeby maybe?

I will be arrivng at 20:15 P.M. on a Sunday if that makes any difference.

Thanks, guys.[/QUOTE]
I highly suggest against taking any type of bus from the airport. It takes much longer than the Airport Express train.

I think you are talking about the Sands Sauna, diagonally opposite the Jordan MTR station. It's another alternative for K Pressure and 37 Dundas plus it has the additional massage session for those who like a massage and FS.
The setup reminded me of those in Macau but smaller scale due to the expensive land price/rent in HK. I went there yesterday evening and there were not that many people. The total damage was HK$868 for me which was higher than your quote. May be you have discount coupon. Am I correct? After the deed, etc., you could relax in their lounge and order something to eat and watch TV. Worth a try IMHO.
SM

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]See for my other posts for my other adventures but it's worth noting that I did go to Jordan Sauna in Mongkok after trying and failing to find 37 Dundas.

Place is surprisingly nice inside. You ride up a private elevator to the lobby. You check in and lock your stuff up in a locker with the key being on a bracelet. You get towel and shower yourself in common shower room type thing (or you can use the sauna if you want) and then you get shorts and bathrobe and slippers and get shown to room with a girl. No line-up was offered to me.

It was a Thursday afternoon and I was the only customer at the time.

The rooms are dark with black-painted walls which is creepy. The girl was cute, not stunning, and very perky considering the locale. I paid for the 90 minute session. Fantastic massage and then energetic CBJ and very energetic CFS. Just great. The setting made me think I wasn't going to be able to perform or enjoy the session, but I did!

My grand total for the 90 minute adventure was HK$725 which was only because I overtipped when offered the tip jar near the lockers. Still, that's less than US$100 and was worth it surely.

The two guys working there were relatively friendly.[/QUOTE]

Quickest and middle price way to get to Empire is Airport express $100 then taxi direct to hotel $30. Forget the free shuttle to all the hotels and waiting for others to get on and off the bus. A11 bus would be good but you could easily miss the right stop, I enjoy sitting on the top deck and taking in the view.
No time to waste on a Sunday when you have Wanchai humming with maids on their day off, busiest time is 5-6pm and a good chance of a freebie.
Empire is an excellent hotel choice. Have fun.

Just did this trip, and if it has not been said enough..... Lockart Road is one of the last stops for the Airport Bus. Not the way to go. Take Airport Express Train to Hong Kong Station (Aprox $170HK roundtrip and 22 minutes) short cab ride to Lockart and Hennesy. You'll be in the action in no time.

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Can anyone tell me the best way to travel from the HK airport to the Empire hotel Wanchai taking into consideration both the hassle factor and also prices? It looks like there is an MRT station closeby maybe?

I will be arrivng at 20:15 P.M. on a Sunday if that makes any difference.

Thanks, guys.[/QUOTE]

Last time that I visited HK, I recall seeing a number of market traders down in the vicinity of Temple Street who specialised in the sale of sex toys etc. Anyone bought from any of these stalls and can give any info on quality, prices etc?

Also cannot recall whether they do uniforms and lingerie (split crotch knickers and the like).

Particularly after a nurses uni to take back to adorn my honeyko's in the Philippines:D.

Any help would be appreciated.

Hey Loveasia, I haven't met any Phils on Yahoo but the answer, no matter what race she is and no matter where you meet her, is to have a pair of balls and tell her flat out that you aren't looking for anything but fun and there is no chance that she becomes your girlfriend. Even though you say so, she'll hope for it anyway but that is her problem because you told her in advance. However her hoping for it will guarantee you a good time.

If she is unwilling to spread her legs after you tell her this, stop talking to her and move on. There are untold thousands of Phils in HK hoping for the chance to be plugged by some white cock and you can always find more where she came from. If all men had this attitude and had a zero tolerance policy toward bullshit we'd all find it a lot easier to score.

Don't take it personally as I am not so much directing this as you as making a general statement.

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]I went online and chatted with few girls. One of the a virgin from Phillinpines (saw a picture, she really looked like a virgin). True or not, she was really fun to talk to. Second one was a dh working in HK. Much older then me, nice to talk to, but will not pursue. Another one was around my age, good looking, and she was fun to chat with. I think I will pursue that.

How do I make it clear that I just want fun? I'm not married, but not looking for relationship. They all ask if I have a gf, the usual … How do you work around that? Or am I chatting with the wrong girl? :)

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Last time that I visited HK, I recall seeing a number of market traders down in the vicinity of Temple Street who specialised in the sale of sex toys etc. Anyone bought from any of these stalls and can give any info on quality, prices etc?

Also cannot recall whether they do uniforms and lingerie (split crotch knickers and the like).

Particularly after a nurses uni to take back to adorn my honeyko's in the Philippines:D.

Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Have your honeyko get one made in the same place where they make school uniforms. Mine had a lot of fun getting it made. Added to the excitement. Try some of the factory outlet stores in Wanchai (Johnston Road) for interesting panties. You may have to go into a few of these stores to find the right one, but some of them have. Enjoy your HK trip Sir Cunning.

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Last time that I visited HK, I recall seeing a number of market traders down in the vicinity of Temple Street who specialised in the sale of sex toys etc. Anyone bought from any of these stalls and can give any info on quality, prices etc?

Also cannot recall whether they do uniforms and lingerie (split crotch knickers and the like).

Particularly after a nurses uni to take back to adorn my honeyko's in the Philippines:D.

Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have not bought from them but there are a few shops around. The problem is that they are hidden where you would not expect them. I think there is one in the computer market on 298 Hennessy Road in Wanchai. There is also one in the big Arcade in TST on Nathan Road, to the left of Holiday Inn.

Recently I was in Sham Shui Po, near the Golden Computer Shopping Center and saw one. Prices were lower there than the others. As you come out of the MTR nearest Golden Shopping Center turn left along the road that runs along the Center. After a few doors you will see to your left more computer shops inside an old building. Go in and up to the second floor. Look around. There is one big computer shop and lots of little shops selling crappy Asian porn. In one corner is the one selling toys. They seemed about half the price of the others. Plus you can get your cheap computer supplies across the street!

[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]Don't be offended but she's telling you, you are a putz.

HK$1,000 might be nothing to some but pissing away what she probably makes in 2-3 days lowers you in her eyes immeasureably. Added to this the race thing - she's probably Chinese/Nepalese (with ID/permit) and the lady-drinks are for Filipinas (14-day visitors).

I have also seen a Sri Lankan waiter treat a slightly drunk Undersecretary in the Ministry of Finance in Oman with absolute contempt several times in an evening of playing pool, drinking and old boys' networking.[/QUOTE]Somehow I doubt that the bar tender cared so much about a tip. Lots of locals don't tip at all. But what it could be is, as I understand it, that this system of paying the girls a commission on the lady drinks is not legal. So the bars try to keep it very low key. The male customers are not supposed to know. If they tell the customers, they are often ejected. One time I was with a newbie in Neptune and had purchased a few drinks for her. When I was about to leave I asked if she had gotten her commission coupons. She had not and did not know how the system worked. I explained it to her and then asked the waiter for her chit. He got very angry and started yelling at her in Tagalog. Another waiter brought her the cash, and asked her to leave.

I had always known that this system was supposed to be kept secret from the male customers but had not realized how angry they get when the trust is violated. And, to show how serious it is, I am quite sure that the paying of these commissions was one of the reasons given for closing Fenwick (the other being cocain).

So I would suggest that if the girl you are with is not getting them, you have her ask the waitress discreety and in Tagalog or Bahasa, which ever works for them and the watress, to explain the system. Since my first run in this has always worked.

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Last time that I visited HK, I recall seeing a number of market traders down in the vicinity of Temple Street who specialised in the sale of sex toys etc. Anyone bought from any of these stalls and can give any info on quality, prices etc?

Also cannot recall whether they do uniforms and lingerie (split crotch knickers and the like).

Particularly after a nurses uni to take back to adorn my honeyko's in the Philippines:D.

Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Yes, there are a handful of stalls at night market that do sell sex toys. The price, compared to stores in TST East or some shopping centers, is 1/2 to 1/3 (50% to 65% off). You just have to negotiate over the price. For example, a Wonder Bullet that sells for US$12-15 at stores can be bought for US$5.

As far as quality, it is a hit or miss. I have bought some stuff 2 years ago that still work and I have bought a few things that had stopped working after a month or two. I have a feeling that the majority of items are rejects from original production line or just a cheap imitations.

As far as uniforms, there are two places further down south on the Temple street that sell all sort of uniforms, french maid, school girl, nurse, etc. Prices are around KG$120-150 per set and quality is so so.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

Thank you - appreciate your comment.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Hey Loveasia, I haven't met any Phils on Yahoo but the answer, no matter what race she is and no matter where you meet her, is to have a pair of balls and tell her flat out that you aren't looking for anything but fun and there is no chance that she becomes your girlfriend. Even though you say so, she'll hope for it anyway but that is her problem because you told her in advance. However her hoping for it will guarantee you a good time.

If she is unwilling to spread her legs after you tell her this, stop talking to her and move on. There are untold thousands of Phils in HK hoping for the chance to be plugged by some white cock and you can always find more where she came from. If all men had this attitude and had a zero tolerance policy toward bullshit we'd all find it a lot easier to score.

Don't take it personally as I am not so much directing this as you as making a general statement.[/QUOTE]

Just heard a rumor that Fenwicks will reopen in November, what is even more interesting, it will be in the same location. I thought they were renovating the place for a supermarket. Apparently, that didn't go through.

Thanks for the heads up, FF, BR and AM. Some good places to check out.

FF - Easy enough getting a nursey uniform made up in Manila but the ones designed for play tend to be short in length, with a quick release zip up the front and made from some easy clean plastic style material;).

Wish I had bought one from an internet supplier in UK when I was back there recently.

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]Just heard a rumor that Fenwicks will reopen in November, what is even more interesting, it will be in the same location. I thought they were renovating the place for a supermarket. Apparently, that didn't go through.[/QUOTE]

I am in contact with one of the former staff of Fenwicks and who is now working in Traffik. She told me that it will be mid October for the opening. But it are different owners, not father and son like before.

On a recent overnight in HKG, I stayed at the Dorsett Seaview. Can't say anything good about the hotel, but below the hotel is the Regency Sauna. After a long flight, a sauna sounded like a good idea. Like all saunas, undressed, put things in locker, showered, then led into a relax room and offered a drink. After about 5 mins. Led to a dark room with massage table and a rather attractive 25 year old. No line-up was offered. After 45 minutes of a really good massage, full service was offered for HK$600 total. Service started with CBJ, followed by various positions (that is possible on a massage table). After 90 mins, I asked for more time and got another hour and a half for HK$500. If you are looking for a massage to go full service, I would recommend Regency.

Hi Globe, did that $600 in your report below include the massage?
Also in an older Shanghai report of yours where is SH?
Thanks in advance, Joe.

I am going to HK in beginning of nowember. Been a couple of years since last time! Need som good tips about the scene!

God saunas? Massage places? Good bars/ pubs to pick up ladys i day/nightime? Please aloso refer to the area!

Remenber that i went to a place called somthing like 356? Its a maasage place close to Jordan road. 2 floor? Anywhone now witch a mean? Is that place steel worth a visit?

Greatfull for all help!

Does anyone know if theres a problem to bring ladys into Hotel Nathan, Kowlon?

I've been reading the forum for a year and now that I've been to Hong Kong and quite a few places in Wan Chai I am curious as to how the new Fenwicks will measure up?

Is Fenwicks bigger than Neptunes II or Traffik? I'm going back at xmas. Should I plan on spending more time at the new Fenwicks? What makes Fenwicks so much better?

Thanks!

(I'm counting down the days until I can return to Wan Chai!)

[QUOTE=Oliver 0205]I am in contact with one of the former staff of Fenwicks and who is now working in Traffik. She told me that it will be mid October for the opening. But it are different owners, not father and son like before.[/QUOTE]What nationality were the owners?

Anyone know?

Thank you.

Guys,

Anyone ever met a girl from the Erotic Services section of Craigslist?

There seem to be some Filipina/Indo girls who advertise rates basically the same as Wan Chai. As well as some local girls who are looking to make extra money on the side. Of course there are all the BS ads but those are easily avoidable.

If anyone has had any CL experiences please share.

Meanwhile I am happy to report a good 37D experience with May. I think there is more than one May, this one is average in pretty much every way, if you see one named May who is a little cute but otherwise unremarkable in every way that is her. Don't know how to describe her other than that. Standard experience but quality.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket

Jordan, Monkok and WanChai are the place to go.

Jordan and Mongkok if you can speak Chinese.

WanChai if English only.

[QUOTE=Corvette1]I am going to HK in beginning of nowember. Been a couple of years since last time! Need som good tips about the scene!

God saunas? Massage places? Good bars/ pubs to pick up ladys i day/nightime? Please aloso refer to the area!

Remenber that i went to a place called somthing like 356? Its a maasage place close to Jordan road. 2 floor? Anywhone now witch a mean? Is that place steel worth a visit?

Greatfull for all help![/QUOTE]

Be careful. A lot of Craiglist ad will get you into some type of trouble. Use conventional routes with clear business models.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Guys,

Anyone ever met a girl from the Erotic Services section of Craigslist?

There seem to be some Filipina/Indo girls who advertise rates basically the same as Wan Chai. As well as some local girls who are looking to make extra money on the side. Of course there are all the BS ads but those are easily avoidable.

If anyone has had any CL experiences please share.

Meanwhile I am happy to report a good 37D experience with May. I think there is more than one May, this one is average in pretty much every way, if you see one named May who is a little cute but otherwise unremarkable in every way that is her. Don't know how to describe her other than that. Standard experience but quality.

Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket[/QUOTE]

No problem at all. In China, you need to be careful for hotels that are 4 stars and up.

[QUOTE=Corvette1]Does anyone know if theres a problem to bring ladys into Hotel Nathan, Kowlon?[/QUOTE]

There are better ones in Jordan.

[QUOTE=Globe Spinner]On a recent overnight in HKG, I stayed at the Dorsett Seaview. Can't say anything good about the hotel, but below the hotel is the Regency Sauna. After a long flight, a sauna sounded like a good idea. Like all saunas, undressed, put things in locker, showered, then led into a relax room and offered a drink. After about 5 mins. Led to a dark room with massage table and a rather attractive 25 year old. No line-up was offered. After 45 minutes of a really good massage, full service was offered for HK$600 total. Service started with CBJ, followed by various positions (that is possible on a massage table). After 90 mins, I asked for more time and got another hour and a half for HK$500. If you are looking for a massage to go full service, I would recommend Regency.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Apac Man]Yes, there are a handful of stalls at night market that do sell sex toys. The price, compared to stores in TST East or some shopping centers, is 1/2 to 1/3 (50% to 65% off). You just have to negotiate over the price. For example, a Wonder Bullet that sells for US$12-15 at stores can be bought for US$5.

As far as quality, it is a hit or miss. I have bought some stuff 2 years ago that still work and I have bought a few things that had stopped working after a month or two. I have a feeling that the majority of items are rejects from original production line or just a cheap imitations.

As far as uniforms, there are two places further down south on the Temple street that sell all sort of uniforms, french maid, school girl, nurse, etc. Prices are around KG$120-150 per set and quality is so so.

Be Safe,

APAC Man[/QUOTE]


Apac,

Do you remember the approx cross street for these vendors. I would like to take a stroll there and see what kind of "fun stuff" I can find. TIA

Sky

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]Just heard a rumor that Fenwicks will reopen in November, what is even more interesting, it will be in the same location. I thought they were renovating the place for a supermarket. Apparently, that didn't go through.[/QUOTE]


If this comes to fruition it will be very interesting to see how/what the changes will be to the "new" Fenwick. Especially if it is not the same ownership. It seems that Trafikk is just starting to get a little traction and I am sure all the bar owner's will bemoan the opening of a new bar in the area. I suspect that even with the crisis, they have seen a large increase in their business.

[QUOTE=Corvette1]Does anyone know if theres a problem to bring ladys into Hotel Nathan, Kowlon?[/QUOTE]

Absolutely none - and I have stayed there. From memory they have a notice to the effect no guests after midnight but that did not stop the night porter opening the door for me nearly every night with a big smile on his face when I returned with my "friend" for the night

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]If this comes to fruition it will be very interesting to see how/what the changes will be to the "new" Fenwick. Especially if it is not the same ownership. It seems that Trafikk is just starting to get a little traction and I am sure all the bar owner's will bemoan the opening of a new bar in the area. I suspect that even with the crisis, they have seen a large increase in their business.[/QUOTE]It won't take much to beat Traffik. The place is a pick up joint and nothing else.

I had an overnight in HK on route home. Decided to check out Neptune. I know I was there early. It was really slow. The usual squad of Philipina's with a few others thrown in for fun. I was approached by an interesting Korean gal with glasses. Has anyone tried her? Then there were two Viet girls. They were young, but I was not in the mood for a training evening. There was a Philipina girl there with short hair and a bright smile. Just as I found a way to talk to her, she started to pimp a round of drinks for all her friends on me. I decided it was time to go.

Went over to Traffik. Really slow. I was the only customer there (at about 9 or so). A row of ok looking Philipina ladies up against one wall talking to each other, 3 at the bar. One of the 3 was rather cute. We did make eye contact a couple times but the sparks didn't fly.

Perhaps it was the Typhoon passing by, perhaps it was just a soggy/windy Monday in HK. I decided to walk the neighborhood a bit, revisiting my earlier decision on the Viet girl from Neptune. Just then, I noticed her walking down the street with the guy sitting closest to me just 30 min earlier. Ah well.

Went home alone.

[QUOTE=Wah Stephen]Jordan, Monkok and WanChai are the place to go.

Jordan and Mongkok if you can speak Chinese.

WanChai if English only.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Anywhone knows any good places close to Jordan road/ Nathan road?

Massage places, bars or streets to pic up?

Or are the most action in Wan Chai?

Any problems to bring the ladys from Whan Chai to Kowlon?

Hong Kong

I look like a local, but I grew up in US. My language (canto/mando) is perfect except for some slang terms. Keep this in mind when you read the following:

141: Hit and miss, but usually not a miss if you know what you're expecting. Don't expect too much when you go in, it's just a quick snack. I usually find the best service is in the buildings where there are lots of girls. When you click on a girl, also click on her address, which reveals the girls in the same location. Generally it's not a good idea to visit a girl that's the only provider in a building. Check out Champagne Court B in TST, which houses 32(!!!) girls as I type. ALWAYS ask for price when going in, and sometimes you can bargain it down. Don't be afraid to knock on multiple doors, that's the best part about choosing! If you want a high-end experience, call the hotel res girls and negotiate for overnight. Generally a pimp/mama picks up. If you build up a good relationship with the pimp/mama, you'll get referred to some high end stock.

37D 1st Floor: This is FUN stuff, especially when you speak the language. I'll describe the process in detail for the newbies. The place is dressed up as a KTV. When you go in, (depending on your language skills), you'll be taken into a room. The mama comes in, explains the fee, which is around $390, and will then start bringing in girls. Here comes great time to practice your Canto/Mando: you get to chat with the girl for 2-3 minutes. It's fun to fuck with these hookers. Some will grab your dick right away, some will play hard to get (laugh). If you dislike the girl, NO RUSH, she'll walk out and bring another one in. You will then be taken up to a hotel upstairs, which ranges from $80-100. The whole thing comes out to be ~$500. You are guaranteed 50 minutes with the girl, unlike 141. How much fun you have is entirely up to you. 37D 1st have some HOT part-timers. How much fun you can have after the paid encounter is again, up to you. Word of warning: Weekend nights are crowded and the 50 minutes feel more rushed, but that's when many part timers show up.

Temple Street: I have not fucked here and came upon this place entirely by accident. The street is lined up with stalls. Walk behind the stalls and you'll find many streetwalkers/pimps/mamas. If you been on the mainland, and this is your thing, come here. It's 200 bucks a fuck. Don't let the girl swindle you for more money. The rooms aren't great, but hell if you've been to the mainland bbs it's the same shit. Last time I was there I saw this one girl I really wanted to pull the trigger on, but apparently people are lined up for her. If you are worrying about safety, bring a buddy. This place is also a tourist attraction where you can buy small gifts. Talk about killing two birds with one stone.

Wan Chai vs. 141 High End: If you really like SE Asia non-Chinese, go here. Besides, the pickup process can be dull at times. Otherwise I find the high end girls in 141 more attractive. You get some of the best from mainland.

Sauna: If you want sauna experience, go to Macau.

KTV: DG or Shenzhen, can make it a weekend trip.

If any bros want to hang out can PM me.

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[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Apac,

Do you remember the approx cross street for these vendors. I would like to take a stroll there and see what kind of "fun stuff" I can find. TIA

Sky[/QUOTE]

Night market runs between Jordan road in the south and and Man Ming lane in the north and it is divided into 3 parts. The south part is on the Temple street between Jordan road and and Kansu street and the setup is in the middle of the street. The one stall that sells uniforms is in this area on the left hand side as you walk north. The middle part is only one block and it runs between Kansu street and Public Square street on the eastern side walk and here is that you will see one stall that sells all sorts of panties and 5-6 stalls that sell sex toys. The north section is 3 blocks and it is on the Temple street between Public Square street Man Ming lane and here all I've seen is nick-nacks and once in a while porn DVDs.

I usually take the MTR to Yau Ma Tai and take exit C which is on Man Ming Lane and then walk down the night market and eat at the seafood place toward the end (English menu and they speak English too) and get back on MTR at Jordan.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

Is it just me or are the bouncers in HK a major pain in the ass?

I got hassled at Sticky Fingers because it was after 10: 30 and was sitting at a table outside. Apparently they've got to pull the tables in at that time, and being that it was about 10: 50pm the bouncer was damn near on fire to get the table I was sitting at inside. He didn't even want to give me 30 seconds to gather the crapola I had spread out on the table together so I could move to another one. He damn near picked me up by the collar and and threw me out onto the street, and I swear I wasn't doing anything other than chatting with a girl and drinking.

Then last night, I got 86'ed from Neptune for writing in my journal at the bar. I keep a pretty good record of my adventures, so once in a while I'll make notes in my journal while I am out and about. Apparently Neptune management finds this highly offensive, so out I went onto the street. Who knows why? Maybe they were afraid that I was going to write something negative about them in an international online forum.

Neptune had an interesting selection of WGs, but I've got to say my first trip to Wan Chai is going to be my last. The guys watching the door are just a pain in the ass to deal with, and given the other options available in HK and elsewhere in Asia, the cost of the girls and the variety, I'll be spending my entertainment dollar somewhere else. I would recommend the casual monger do the same.

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[QUOTE=Bone Roller]Is it just me or are the bouncers in HK a major pain in the ass?

[/QUOTE]

Could be just you. Unless you are not a westerner and then they are pretty bad (but just enforcing the management direction). Other than that they seem very friendly and if you have been there a few times they always say hello.

If you are writing at the bar they may had thought you are a journo, with probably nothing good to say. There are most likely bars for scholars and poets in Wan Chai but I dare say Neptune is not one of them. Enjoy a drink, the band and the girls, that what it is for.

BJK

[QUOTE=Bone Roller]Is it just me or are the bouncers in HK a major pain in the ass?

I got hassled at Sticky Fingers because it was after 10: 30 and was sitting at a table outside. Apparently they've got to pull the tables in at that time, and being that it was about 10: 50pm the bouncer was damn near on fire to get the table I was sitting at inside. He didn't even want to give me 30 seconds to gather the crapola I had spread out on the table together so I could move to another one. He damn near picked me up by the collar and and threw me out onto the street, and I swear I wasn't doing anything other than chatting with a girl and drinking.

Then last night, I got 86'ed from Neptune for writing in my journal at the bar. I keep a pretty good record of my adventures, so once in a while I'll make notes in my journal while I am out and about. Apparently Neptune management finds this highly offensive, so out I went onto the street. Who knows why? Maybe they were afraid that I was going to write something negative about them in an international online forum.

Neptune had an interesting selection of WGs, but I've got to say my first trip to Wan Chai is going to be my last. The guys watching the door are just a pain in the ass to deal with, and given the other options available in HK and elsewhere in Asia, the cost of the girls and the variety, I'll be spending my entertainment dollar somewhere else. I would recommend the casual monger do the same.
[/QUOTE]

The bouncers can be a real pain in the ass if you are not white enough and they don't know you. It is not always so but I have seen it happen a few times.

I have seen it at Neptunes.

My recommendation is to go with a caucasian friend the first time you try to enter Neptunes. It may also happen at Makati and Laguna as well. I'd recommend if you don't have a white western friend with you, to find one outside of the bar to 'accompany' you inside. Just explain the situation to someone outside. It easier now to socialize this way as smokers are outside of the bars on the street.

It really unfortunate situation for non-caucasian westerners but there must be a reason for it. These bars are not new, they have been around for decades.

At certain times, non-caucasians will get in but will have to 'pay the cover charge' which at some bars may be 200HKD to enter.

At times when US Navy is in town, the cover charge is enforced for the non-local people but local and regulars are let in for free. It's not fair but if you don't like it go elsewhere.

Even inside of the bars, non-caucasians will have more difficulty with the local service providers, all else being equal.

This is one of the expat locales in Hong Kong, perhaps the best known location. There are other parts of Hong Kong where the discrimination goes the other direction.

Yellow Fever

[QUOTE=Joe Banana]Hi Globe, did that $600 in your report below include the massage?

Also in an older Shanghai report of yours where is SH?

Thanks in advance, Joe.[/QUOTE]Yes, that included an excellent massage.

SH was referring to Shanghai Hotel.

[QUOTE=Corvette1]I am going to HK in beginning of nowember. Been a couple of years since last time! Need som good tips about the scene!

God saunas? Massage places? Good bars/ pubs to pick up ladys i day/nightime? Please aloso refer to the area!

Remenber that i went to a place called somthing like 356? Its a maasage place close to Jordan road. 2 floor? Anywhone now witch a mean? Is that place steel worth a visit?

Greatfull for all help![/QUOTE]Try Golden Jansper Sauna, 3F, Manly Comm. Bldg., 15 Soy St., Mongkok. Excellent massage plus full service.

[QUOTE=Temujin87]Hong Kong

37D 1st Floor: This is FUN stuff, especially when you speak the language. I'll describe the process in detail for the newbies. The place is dressed up as a KTV. When you go in, (depending on your language skills), you'll be taken into a room. The mama comes in, explains the fee, which is around $390, and will then start bringing in girls. Here comes great time to practice your Canto/Mando: you get to chat with the girl for 2-3 minutes. It's fun to fuck with these hookers. Some will grab your dick right away, some will play hard to get (laugh). If you dislike the girl, NO RUSH, she'll walk out and bring another one in. You will then be taken up to a hotel upstairs, which ranges from $80-100. The whole thing comes out to be ~$500. You are guaranteed 50 minutes with the girl, unlike 141. How much fun you have is entirely up to you. 37D 1st have some HOT part-timers. How much fun you can have after the paid encounter is again, up to you. Word of warning: Weekend nights are crowded and the 50 minutes feel more rushed, but that's when many part timers show up.
[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I assume the prices you quoted are HDK and not USD

[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]The bouncers can be a real pain in the ass if you are not white enough and they don't know you. It is not always so but I have seen it happen a few times.

I have seen it at Neptunes.

My recommendation is to go with a caucasian friend the first time you try to enter Neptunes. It may also happen at Makati and Laguna as well. I'd recommend if you don't have a white western friend with you, to find one outside of the bar to 'accompany' you inside. Just explain the situation to someone outside. It easier now to socialize this way as smokers are outside of the bars on the street.

It really unfortunate situation for non-caucasian westerners but there must be a reason for it. These bars are not new, they have been around for decades.

At certain times, non-caucasians will get in but will have to 'pay the cover charge' which at some bars may be 200HKD to enter.

At times when US Navy is in town, the cover charge is enforced for the non-local people but local and regulars are let in for free. It's not fair but if you don't like it go elsewhere.

Even inside of the bars, non-caucasians will have more difficulty with the local service providers, all else being equal.

This is one of the expat locales in Hong Kong, perhaps the best known location. There are other parts of Hong Kong where the discrimination goes the other direction.

Yellow Fever[/QUOTE]
My personal experience with Wanchai bouncers as an Asian-American has been positive. Some of the doorman are even friendly, including those at Neptune and Laguna. Of all my years of visiting Wanchai, the only place I was asked to pay a "membership fee" was Fenwicks. All the while, white customers walked straight in without any hassle. Regardless, I don't blame doormen for such actions. They are only carrying out orders from management or owners.

[QUOTE=Stinkyfeet]I assume the prices you quoted are HDK and not USD[/QUOTE]
Yes, 500 HKD.

[quote=temujin87]37d 1st floor: this is fun stuff, especially when you speak the language. i'll describe the process in detail for the newbies. the place is dressed up as a ktv. when you go in, (depending on your language skills), you'll be taken into a room. the mama comes in, explains the fee, which is around $390, and will then start bringing in girls. here comes great time to practice your canto/mando: you get to chat with the girl for 2-3 minutes. it's fun to fuck with these hookers. some will grab your dick right away, some will play hard to get (laugh). if you dislike the girl, no rush, she'll walk out and bring another one in. you will then be taken up to a hotel upstairs, which ranges from $80-100. the whole thing comes out to be ~$500. you are guaranteed 50 minutes with the girl, unlike 141. how much fun you have is entirely up to you. 37d 1st have some hot part-timers. how much fun you can have after the paid encounter is again, up to you. word of warning: weekend nights are crowded and the 50 minutes feel more rushed, but that's when many part timers show up.[/quote]
quick beginner's guide. i have just arrived in hk for my first time so will report on all my activities.

arrived at hong kong with an itch that needed scratching so decided to go for what seemed the simplest option: 37d dundas street. decided to take a taxi but apparently got in a non-kowloon taxi, so he very kindly drove me 100m to a kowloon taxi. $20, no worries! the taxi drivers don't speak english, so i had the address written down, and marked on a map which helped a bit. the taxi price was about $50, perhaps less, but i caught the subway back and that was faster and cheaper. arrived at dundas street and couldn't spot many building numbers so i thought it would be tricky to find. it's not, it's the one with all the pictures of semi-naked girls all over the walls. :)

walk up one flight of stairs and greeted by mama-san, who quickly walked me into a semi-dark room. offered me a drink and i accepted a beer (small can) which i think was free? the deal was $390 for the girl, and $100 for the room, paid separately. saw a line-up of 4 girls (this was 3pm on a saturday), of whom i would judge 5-7. they weren't beautiful but not ugly, but a bit chunky for my tastes. the most attractive was the chunkiest, so i had to let her go. actually in the semi-dark you can't really see very well, which is fine. picked the one who gave the most smiles, and she sat down briefly and squeezed my leg. result! then off to the room.

ok room with double bed and adjacent shower. long thorough cleaning process combined with a bit of body rubbing and a short bbbj in the shower. then on to the bed, face down for a cat-bath, which i haven't experienced for a few years, plus ar. quite enjoyed it really. then over on to my back for similar, culminating with a bbbj. it was actually very good, especially when i made her slow down. she wanted the condom then, but i thought it was time to give her some attention. so a nice daty session, which she giggled at first, but was quite happy with. by the way, hairy pussies are not my thing, but this is china...

pillow under her ass and licking away which she seemed to enjoy (who knows?), then condom on. missionary, doggy, and cowgirl. most in doggy which i like, but it was more her lying on a pillow with her ass sticking up and me standing behind. lots of fake moaning and i was tempted to ask her to stop, but then realised without the moaning she would have nothing to do and might fall asleep :( passion, you can't beat it! she was keen to speed up the cw but i like it slow and gentle. then phone rang for time-up, i indicated 5 more minutes and let her let rip, which i guess pleased both of us.

finally all done and she cleaned me up. she became quite affectionate at this point and i almost thought about a tip... given complete absence of language it was quite a pleasant experience overall. finally out of the door and walked down the corridor. met by a very cute mama-san who asks if there were any problems, and i say no.

total time, certainly not more than 50 minutes from meeting girl to out of room, but ok for a first blast. total cost $490. girl's name was tsun-tsun or similar. don't particularly recommend her, but she was ok. would i return? no, because there are other places to go and things to do.

now i have to go out and find tonight's catch. wish me luck!

I thought I'd check out the Wan Chai bars in the early evening so as to be prepared for the evening's activities. I spotted most of the ones I had heard about. I saw a typically Thai bar on the corner of one street (forget the name but I'll edit this post tomorrow), and had a quick look inside. I was immediately dragged in by 4 very forceful youngish ladies (one was strong enough to be a ladyboy...). I said that I was just coming in for a beer and nothing else, but was persuaded to buy just 2 lady drinks between the 4 ladies. I did not ask the price, which is plainly printed on the wall. $220 each. And again to be fare the (very pushy) mama-san did tell me after I had bought a total of 4 drinks. But I was still in Korea mind-set where 20,000 Dong is about 5p, so I hadn't got my decimal points right. I paid up by credit card before realising my stupidity, but took it on the chin and put it down to experience. OK, I'll confess, the cc chit says food and beverages, so that's going on expenses. :(

And again to be fair, the 4 girls took me to a secluded rear part of the bar where they did all kinds of nasty things to me, although nothing to completion. During the process I can confirm that they were real girls, with all relevant working parts. Luckily I was freshly showered and they commented on my pleasant aroma!

The final potential benefit was that the mama-san reduced the LT price from $3000 to $1500 if I came back at midnight. There was one girl there I really did fancy, although to my amazement she was 36 (and I am used to Thai girls).

Did I go back? You'll have to wait for the next installment, which will be called 'Bliss in Hong Kong' or similar...

What kind of trouble and how?

[QUOTE=Wah Stephen]Be careful. A lot of Craiglist ad will get you into some type of trouble. Use conventional routes with clear business models.[/QUOTE]

hi,

the selection is not as good during off hours. regarding the 50 -> you can enforce it if you want. some girls will let you have 2 pops during the session. here is a tip - never tip! it's ok to tip the higher-end hotel res girls.

[quote=mouse1]quick beginner's guide. i have just arrived in hk for my first time so will report on all my activities.

arrived at hong kong with an itch that needed scratching so decided to go for what seemed the simplest option: 37d dundas street. decided to take a taxi but apparently got in a non-kowloon taxi, so he very kindly drove me 100m to a kowloon taxi. $20, no worries! the taxi drivers don't speak english, so i had the address written down, and marked on a map which helped a bit. the taxi price was about $50, perhaps less, but i caught the subway back and that was faster and cheaper. arrived at dundas street and couldn't spot many building numbers so i thought it would be tricky to find. it's not, it's the one with all the pictures of semi-naked girls all over the walls. :)

walk up one flight of stairs and greeted by mama-san, who quickly walked me into a semi-dark room. offered me a drink and i accepted a beer (small can) which i think was free? the deal was $390 for the girl, and $100 for the room, paid separately. saw a line-up of 4 girls (this was 3pm on a saturday), of whom i would judge 5-7. they weren't beautiful but not ugly, but a bit chunky for my tastes. the most attractive was the chunkiest, so i had to let her go. actually in the semi-dark you can't really see very well, which is fine. picked the one who gave the most smiles, and she sat down briefly and squeezed my leg. result! then off to the room.

ok room with double bed and adjacent shower. long thorough cleaning process combined with a bit of body rubbing and a short bbbj in the shower. then on to the bed, face down for a cat-bath, which i haven't experienced for a few years, plus ar. quite enjoyed it really. then over on to my back for similar, culminating with a bbbj. it was actually very good, especially when i made her slow down. she wanted the condom then, but i thought it was time to give her some attention. so a nice daty session, which she giggled at first, but was quite happy with. by the way, hairy pussies are not my thing, but this is china...

pillow under her ass and licking away which she seemed to enjoy (who knows?), then condom on. missionary, doggy, and cowgirl. most in doggy which i like, but it was more her lying on a pillow with her ass sticking up and me standing behind. lots of fake moaning and i was tempted to ask her to stop, but then realised without the moaning she would have nothing to do and might fall asleep :( passion, you can't beat it! she was keen to speed up the cw but i like it slow and gentle. then phone rang for time-up, i indicated 5 more minutes and let her let rip, which i guess pleased both of us.

finally all done and she cleaned me up. she became quite affectionate at this point and i almost thought about a tip... given complete absence of language it was quite a pleasant experience overall. finally out of the door and walked down the corridor. met by a very cute mama-san who asks if there were any problems, and i say no.

total time, certainly not more than 50 minutes from meeting girl to out of room, but ok for a first blast. total cost $490. girl's name was tsun-tsun or similar. don't particularly recommend her, but she was ok. would i return? no, because there are other places to go and things to do.

now i have to go out and find tonight's catch. wish me luck![/quote]

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]What kind of trouble and how?[/QUOTE]The fact that you don't know what you're getting yourself into? This is still China, and things will go wrong in China.

Craigslist by itself is not often used by the locals, so it's an obvious foreigner trap.

[QUOTE=Gren62]My personal experience with Wanchai bouncers as an Asian-American has been positive. Some of the doorman are even friendly, including those at Neptune and Laguna. Of all my years of visiting Wanchai, the only place I was asked to pay a "membership fee" was Fenwicks. All the while, white customers walked straight in without any hassle. Regardless, I don't blame doormen for such actions. They are only carrying out orders from management or owners.[/QUOTE]I would say that is DEFINITELY true if you are non-white attempting to walk in. (speaking as a dark skinned spanish guy, I've been told quite a number of times in no uncertain means, to get the fu*k away and NEVER come back).

However if I'm with my local friends or with a obvious white chap, there evil looks are there, but they won't start the same arguments.

I'm about to be transferred to HK in a few months and have RTFF for some advice and inspiration. To be honest the board generally has not had a lot of positive notes about P4P in HK.

With the cheap airfares am I better off spending some dirty weekends releasing the pressure in Manila or Bankok?

[QUOTE=Goferring]I'm about to be transferred to HK in a few months and have RTFF for some advice and inspiration. To be honest the board generally has not had a lot of positive notes about P4P in HK.

With the cheap airfares am I better off spending some dirty weekends releasing the pressure in Manila or Bankok?[/QUOTE]My experience is that HK is expensive. You can drop a lot of money in the clubs and bars, and before you know it you have spent the cost of an airfare to BKK.

But, if I lived here I would definitely find a classy girl occasionally, as I think the level of beauty is higher here than in Thailand.

I don't know why 37 Dundas is mentioned so much in these forums?

Coming out of the place I realised that there were several similar establishments around. Diagonally opposite the X-road there is a 'hotel' with 6 floors of MPs, with a short entrance alley showing all the beautifully photoshopped girls.

As I was there a quite attractive girl came in and waited for the lift. I asked her where she worked and she said the 6th floor. She also gave me a quick low-down on prices. Although I couldn't really follow, the prices ended around $700, and P4P being what it is, that is probably the minimum price you would end up paying.

I have her name and I'm tempted to go back this evening.

There was another place in the opposite direction with a sign on the door listing the prices for different nationalities - I'm sure I've seen that sign on the internet. I went into check prices, and they all seemed a little higher than on the door, and for maximum 30 minutes. Too short for me.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I don't know why 37 Dundas is mentioned so much in these forums?[/QUOTE]
Simply because this and the other one in Jordan road are foreigner friendly. It seems you can communicate in Chinese and many of us, including me, can not. We know English and that's about it.

And you are right, according to my local friends, there are many establishments like 37 Dundas in that part of Hong Kong and again according to them, they are there to cater to local people. gweilos are supposed to go to Wan Chai to get their fix.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Goferring]I'm about to be transferred to HK in a few months and have RTFF for some advice and inspiration. To be honest the board generally has not had a lot of positive notes about P4P in HK.

With the cheap airfares am I better off spending some dirty weekends releasing the pressure in Manila or Bankok?[/QUOTE]
Or take the 1 hour ferry ride to Macau.

[QUOTE=Apac Man]Simply because this and the other one in Jordan road are foreigner friendly. It seems you can communicate in Chinese and many of us, including me, can not. We know English and that's about it.

And you are right, according to my local friends, there are many establishments like 37 Dundas in that part of Hong Kong and again according to them, they are there to cater to local people. gweilos are supposed to go to Wan Chai to get their fix.

Be Safe,

APAC Man[/QUOTE]


Agree 100% with APAC Man. If you had Chinese skill you could try your luck in any of the other places but there is still no guarantee that you would have a good experience. There used to be at the peak 400 Yellow Sign brothels in Mong Kok.

Even being Chinese, you can have a shitty time. I went to a 141 address to find it was closed and tried a YS downstairs. Has a great time with the gal but when it came time to pay, the price was inflated from the $300 on the sign below to $360. Was told it was for "happy hour" and they had a small sign with fine print on the back door that actually said that. Gal was so great that I would definitely been a multiple repeat but after that BS I never went back to that place.

[QUOTE=Apac Man]Simply because this and the other one in Jordan road are foreigner friendly. It seems you can communicate in Chinese and many of us, including me, can not. We know English and that's about it.[/QUOTE]Same here. Not a word of Chinese.

But the girl I spoke to had good English, and seemed very welcoming. That's why I asked.

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]Has a great time with the gal but when it came time to pay, the price was inflated from the $300 on the sign below to $360. Was told it was for "happy hour" and they had a small sign with fine print on the back door that actually said that. Gal was so great that I would definitely been a multiple repeat but after that BS I never went back to that place.[/QUOTE]Blimey, they 'over-charged' you $60 (the cost of a beer in Neptune), you had a great time with the lady, but you'll never go back?!!!

You have high standards, my friend.

P4P is such a hit-or-miss that if I found a good provider then I would definitely return. Mind telling me the address of your place and I'll be there tomorrow? :)

I have one evening left in BKK, and possibly tomorrow afternoon as well.

I've been to 37D, picked up a FL, been to a Macau spa, and been ripped off in a bbar. What do you suggest I do next to get the full flavour of HK?

I'd like to try a 141 girl, but despite RTFF I still don't get the hang of it... How do you find a girl, find her address, negotiate prices, clarify expectations, etc? If someone could advise or post a link to the SOP that would be great.

I too wonder why 37 Dundas and K Pressure get so much of a write up here. Sure as a result of this forum they are more used to gweilos than some of the other places in the Jordan to Prince Edward corridor but I have never been given any problems over the years about being a gweilo at any of the many places I have been and I don't speak any Chinese.

A significant number saunas and places like 37 Dundas have at least one older mama or papa who can speak English and I occassionally see other gweilos there but for whatever reason they have not become well reported on this board.

With Yellow and Pink signs sometimes you just have to do with sign language as a lot of the young kids working at these places have grown up with mother tongue teaching and do not communicate well in English but they are generally friendly to customers.



[QUOTE=Apac Man]Simply because this and the other one in Jordan road are foreigner friendly. It seems you can communicate in Chinese and many of us, including me, can not. We know English and that's about it.

And you are right, according to my local friends, there are many establishments like 37 Dundas in that part of Hong Kong and again according to them, they are there to cater to local people. gweilos are supposed to go to Wan Chai to get their fix.

Be Safe,

APAC Man[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]I too wonder why 37 Dundas and K Pressure get so much of a write up here. Sure as a result of this forum they are more used to gweilos than some of the other places in the Jordan to Prince Edward corridor but I have never been given any problems over the years about being a gweilo at any of the many places I have been and I don't speak any Chinese.
[/QUOTE]

Why don't you try to educate us then? Give us some alternatives.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Goferring]I'm about to be transferred to HK in a few months and have RTFF for some advice and inspiration. To be honest the board generally has not had a lot of positive notes about P4P in HK.

With the cheap airfares am I better off spending some dirty weekends releasing the pressure in Manila or Bankok?[/QUOTE]

Read the south China forums. They are much closer than BKK/MNL/CLARK.

Otherwise use Airasia for BKK and Cebu Pacific Air for MNL/CLARK from HGK.

Macau seems to be expensive.IMO.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I'd like to try a 141 girl, but despite RTFF I still don't get the hang of it... How do you find a girl, find her address, negotiate prices, clarify expectations, etc? If someone could advise or post a link to the SOP that would be great.[/QUOTE]There is another, separate website that lists the girls by district and gives the prices and contact information along with services. One can't post the url of said website because that is not allowed and Jackson has deleted it on many occasions (and perhaps this post will be too much as well) but it is fairly easy to figure out. You know what you are looking for and you've already said it is a 141 operation.

[quote]with yellow and pink signs sometimes you just have to do with sign language as a lot of the young kids working at these places have grown up with mother tongue teaching and do not communicate well in english but they are generally friendly to customers.[/quote]i would agree that they are generally friendly to customers. i will say (being caucasian) that i've been looked at strangely a couple of times though because i speak some mandarin and cantonese and they apparently sometimes think i'm a cop. that's where a little language ability hurts you i guess.

the most daunting aspect is actually walking into an unknown building and up those narrow steps that first time, but i've always had them open the door and let me on in. they want you in and out of site as quickly as they can.

the places are rep001tered mostly around mongkok and prince edward. in mongkok, there are many to the west of nathan road a couple streets over. there are some to the east of nathan road as well. in prince edward, they are to the west of nathan road from the mtr station and across the street from the metropole as well; to the east of nathan road is the police headquarters so probably not a great place to try.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I'd like to try a 141 girl, but despite RTFF I still don't get the hang of it... How do you find a girl, find her address, negotiate prices, clarify expectations, etc? If someone could advise or post a link to the SOP that would be great.[/QUOTE]OK, it's obvious when you have done it.

So:

Look on [url]www.******.com[/url] website and you will see a whole bunch of beautiful ladies. They will look nothing like their photoshopped photos, but then you know that already. [ OK, that's s e x with 141 after it. ]

With a bit of fiddling you can find girls who work in one place, and it's perhaps worth noting the names and prices of those girls. Some can speak a very little English, and it's worth noting those too. The ratings are presumably self-awarded, so you can ignore. some have phone numbers, and I called 3 girls with supposed English, and one answered. Her English was limited though. I made an appointment (as in 'see you in 15 minutes'), but I needn't have bothered.

Go to the address, and they are easy to find. Walk up the stairwell, (and these are not big blocks of flats with hundreds of people as I had imagined). You will know if you are on the right stairwell :) so no danger of disturbing a Hong Kong family during their dinner, again as I had been concerned about.

Actually I got the wrong stairwell first, and did just that :(, so if it is not very obvious then you are in the wrong place. The girls have CCTV so they know you are coming.

I met with Eva, room D on 3rd Floor block 107. The rooms are small, and if you have a cat that you wish to swing, best leave it at home. The rooms are very small. Did I mention that already? She was a bit chubbier than her photo, but no surprise there, and more tattoos, but otherwise looked fine. Liked her long curly hair (on her head at least).

We agreed a price, $480, which was written on a piece of paper on the wall, which was for 30 minutes, NOT including shower time, so actually not bad. I'm sure they are all different, but kissing was not allowed, DATY was accepted reasonably happily, and big European dicks were tolerated with some grumbling. If only they knew what their protestations do for me, then they would stop straightaway!

She had lots of sexy outfits on the wall so I asked her to dress in one (the one she was wearing on the website actually), but actually stripped it off pretty quickly. CBJ, 69, and FS. I did actually get my allotted time, which frankly is about 25 minutes longer than I normally manage... Then finished, much to her evident relief, washed and showered.

Came to pay bill and gave her $500. Didn't want the change but she wanted more, because apparently there is an extra charge for outfits. So I gave her an extra $100 - in her dreams! I thought that $500 was a fair payment. Some grumbling but not much. A peck on the lips then on my way.

Sent her a text to say thanks, and she responded with a few unhappy emoticons, which might be because I underpaid, or because she was struggling to walk... Actually not the best way to end and I feel a bit bad about that.

So, all in all, a lot more straightforward than I had anticipated. Another thing ticked off my list.

Spoke to the Shrimp in Bangkok this evening and she was interested to hear about my experiences in Hong Kong because she has worked here. She went to Neptune's a lot. I was staggered at the cost of drinks there having bought one round of 3 drinks for $180... The girls would get a voucher for $50 with each drink (and I know this has been mentioned on this forum already). I didn't see it happen with me, but perhaps the staff remember well. Anyway, the Shrimp said that some evenings she was bought so many drinks that she didn't need to work.

I'm amazed by the variation in price of a beer between seemingly identical bars. One will charge $25 - 35 for a large Tiger, while Bar 109 charges $55 for a bottle of beer. Two of those is an expensive night out for me...

Went to 37D. I very clearly said, beautiful girl, not fat. Spoke Chinese. I rejected 2 lineups before taking a girl. But in the better light of the room when she got her clothes off, she was decidedly chunky and not that good looking. I thought about taking her back but decided against it. But when I got back down I complained. I told them I would not accept this anymore, I see Chinese guys with stunners while I get the "pork chops," and next time I will leave without taking a girl and without paying. Mamasan offered me another girl for free right then. After I just shot a load? No thanks but you can bet I will stick to my guns next time. Fuck those ***** mamasans. 37D is way off standard.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]37D is way off standard.[/QUOTE]
Close your legs, open your mind
Leave those compliments well behind
Dig a little deeper into yourself
And you may find

Come over here just sit right down
Needn’t comb your hair, needn’t pout or frown
I hear you’ve turned our young men
Into dribbling clowns

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?
37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?

Make their day and go ahead
Remove your clothes lie on their bed
Just a last gasp chance or an outside bet
To the easily led

And before you do just what you do
Here one thought for you to chew
The men who run the business that you sell
They screw you too

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?
37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?

You’re just another 365 night stand
But you’re so handy, you’re so handy
You cheapen and you nasty every woman in this land
But you’re so handy, you’re so handy

Your pictures hanging pretty on the squaddies walls
You’re Steven’s, Andy’s, you’re Ian’s, you’re Paul’s
Your body’s thought of fondly in the rugby mauls
But you want more

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?

37D so what (D) so what
Is that all that you’ve got?
He was trying to save his job
He was, he was trying to save his job.



Sorry, couldn't resist it :)

Anyone have access to a good tailor?

I need some custom shirts at 200-300HKD a pop, and perhaps another suit.

My friend found a tailor in Mong Kok and bought two suits for 1300. He hasn't picked up the suit yet so I'm not too sure about the quality.

Info is much appreciated.

Nothing scientific here, just some food for thought:

I'm sure the foreign travelers have explored Wan Chai and LKF extensively.
I'd like to recommend a place with a little bit more local flavor - Knutsford Terrace in TST. You can get there easily by getting off at the TST MTR.

It's a very small and quiet bar street, where foreign customers aren't as common as LKF or Wan Chai. I find the local girls here do not gravitate toward foreigners like they do in LKF, but are still very friendly and approachable in a traditional sense. They do look at foreigners with a certain kind of curiously, unlike the girls at LKF who've enjoyed one too many. This is the perfect place to meet local girls if you're going to be situated in Hong Kong for awhile.

For dates, or just an easy night with buddies, there is a water-pipe (we call it Hookah in the US) bar situated on the street. The atmosphere is much more enjoyable than other places I've been to on Hong Kong Island.

[QUOTE=Temujin87]Anyone have access to a good tailor?[/QUOTE]While you're at it, could someone post some restaurant reviews, tell me where to get a good haircut, suggest some tourist sights, tell me how to get tickets for the opera, rate the hotels and pick some winners on the next horse race? Or shall we just keep to the topic?

[QUOTE=Temujin87]Anyone have access to a good tailor?

I need some custom shirts at 200-300HKD a pop, and perhaps another suit.

My friend found a tailor in Mong Kok and bought two suits for 1300. He hasn't picked up the suit yet so I'm not too sure about the quality.

Info is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]All you have to do to find a good tailor in Hong Kong is to walk 10 meters out from your hotel and I guarantee you that you will have many gentlemen telling you "we make shirt, we make suit, we make vest, trouser, come see my shop, have a look". Also their colleagues will offer you "copy watch, copy bag", etc., etc. It really helps if you have a camera hung around your neck while walking around. They will spot you immediately and you will have more new "best friends" than you can shake a stick at.

Now if they were only offering what most all of us here are looking for!

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Blimey, they 'over-charged' you $60 (the cost of a beer in Neptune), you had a great time with the lady, but you'll never go back?!!!

You have high standards, my friend.

P4P is such a hit-or-miss that if I found a good provider then I would definitely return. Mind telling me the address of your place and I'll be there tomorrow? :)[/QUOTE]When you get taken for a sucker, it doesn't matter for how much. The way the places work in Mong Kok, the gals are not exclusive to 1 place and if you know the gals name you can go to another YS place down the road and can get the same gal delivered. And from my experinece in Mong Kong, almost all the gals are trained to give good service.

If you start comparing what you get charged for in Neptunes, you can get laid for a month in Shenzhen or by Streetwalkers at the Temple Street markets for what guys report for what they spend on 1 ST gal and hotel in Neptunes but they are 2 different situations all together. And if you think the beer is expensive there, how do you justify P4P from there. I actually thought Neptune was a reasonably priced place to drink in Wanchai, discounting of course the bars where you get bucket of beer for under HK$200 during happy hour. And of course being molested by Thai hookers is free, LOL!

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Went to 37D. I very clearly said, beautiful girl, not fat. Spoke Chinese. I rejected 2 lineups before taking a girl. But in the better light of the room when she got her clothes off, she was decidedly chunky and not that good looking. I thought about taking her back but decided against it. But when I got back down I complained. I told them I would not accept this anymore, I see Chinese guys with stunners while I get the "pork chops," and next time I will leave without taking a girl and without paying. Mamasan offered me another girl for free right then. After I just shot a load? No thanks but you can bet I will stick to my guns next time. Fuck those ***** mamasans. 37D is way off standard.[/QUOTE]Johnny,

Not sure if you are Chinese or not, but it could be more of a problem with the gals and not the mamasan. The stunners you see may not want to do a non-Chinese. Easy way to find out is next time you see one leave, tell the mama you will wait for her to come back and see what she says. Just like in the YS places if you see a hottie come up you can wait in line.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]While you're at it, could someone post some restaurant reviews, tell me where to get a good haircut, suggest some tourist sights, tell me how to get tickets for the opera, rate the hotels and pick some winners on the next horse race? Or shall we just keep to the topic?[/QUOTE]To be honest I quite appreciate some of the "nuggets" offered on the forum that may not be exactly on target. Maybe it is just me, but I do have other interest (on occasion) than how, what, where, and when to get my knob polished.

Of course part of that may be due to the fact that being "mature", my knob requires more time between "polishings" than it did 20 yrs ago.

I find that many of the posters on the board have some great ideas that add to my "life experiences", and for that I am grateful. Just IMHO

Sky

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]Johnny,

Not sure if you are Chinese or not, but it could be more of a problem with the gals and not the mamasan. The stunners you see may not want to do a non-Chinese. Easy way to find out is next time you see one leave, tell the mama you will wait for her to come back and see what she says. Just like in the YS places if you see a hottie come up you can wait in line.[/QUOTE]I'm a gweilo. You bring up an interesting point. Most of the girls tell me they like foreigners better because they are treated better. But there must be girls who don't want to do Westerners. Well fine for them, but among those who will do foreigners I want a hot one. And if I don't get one next time I'm leaving and not going back and I'm going to tell them why. Like they care, but still. I'm not going to be treated like a second-tier customer.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]I'm a gweilo. You bring up an interesting point. Most of the girls tell me they like foreigners better because they are treated better. But there must be girls who don't want to do Westerners. Well fine for them, but among those who will do foreigners I want a hot one. And if I don't get one next time I'm leaving and not going back and I'm going to tell them why. Like they care, but still. I'm not going to be treated like a second-tier customer.[/QUOTE]Johnny,

Of course the gals say they like Westerners if they are Pork Chops cause they are the only ones they will feck them. Just like Chinese are well known for eating anything with legs that is not a table, Westerners are believed to feck anything with legs and a hole, LOL.

Good luck at 37D!

[QUOTE=Temujin87]Anyone have access to a good tailor?

I need some custom shirts at 200-300HKD a pop, and perhaps another suit.

My friend found a tailor in Mong Kok and bought two suits for 1300. He hasn't picked up the suit yet so I'm not too sure about the quality.

Info is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Temujin87,

Most of the best tailor is in Hong Kong central area, There are also many in Tsim sha tsui also most cater to tourist, Hk have the best quality tailor in asia 1300 hkd for 2 suit is on the low end.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Tequila Kid]Appears like V & C are readily available over the counter from any pharmacy in Hong Kong.

About 3 weeks ago, purchased 4 tabs of V from pharmacy around back of Holiday Inn Golden Mile, somewhere around Cameron & Camarvon. Cost ~ 400 HKD

The next morning, purchased 4 tap of C from pharmacy on Nathan, just north of Holiday Inn Golden Mile. Cost ~ 330 HKD.

Experience with V
Took half a tablet. Not sure if it worked, it was a hot s e x y session. I did my thing went to bed soon after. But ended up with a headache most of the next day.

Experience with C
Took half a tablet and drank about liter of water. Worked well for 3 days. Slight backache after first night but maybe not related to C, although backache is listed as minor side effect.

About V, I may try again. Another post recommended drinking lots of water helps.

About C, definitely try again. Will purchase from the same pharmacy next time in HKG.

From the web about Cialis:

Recommended time to take before sex is 30 minutes to 12 hours
Most common side effects: Headache, dyspepsia/upset stomach, back pain
Advantages : Cialis has few side effects and lasts longer in the body to increase spontaneity than either Levitra or Viagra.

From the web about Viagra

Recommended time to take before sex is 60 minutes
Most common side effects: Headache, facial flushing, altered or blueish vision
Advantages : Viagra is very well known and a proven effective treatment. It is discounted heavily and is widely available.

-TK[/QUOTE]Excellent post. Side street pharmacy/chinese medicine shop in Wan Chai were looking for $860 for Viagra. Now I am not a trader in these commodities but thought this was steep so blanked the old guy in string vest. Read your post and went to place just north of Holiday Inn GM. Initially guy inside played a bit dumb so I had to write it down but the penny dropped and sure $320 was a much more reasonable price for C. Did the trick. Like V made me feel generally crappy for ~ 24 hours. Must be sometime of retribution that all these drugs take on you.

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]...but it could be more of a problem with the gals and not the mamasan. The stunners you see may not want to do a non-Chinese. ...[/QUOTE]
Not sure about HK, but as a gweilo I've heard it many times in mainland that gweilo have BIG tool that hurts the girls and of course all gweilo have STD!

Be Safe,

APAC Man (who has no big tool or STD)

Tried an old recommendation of Undercoverh, the GCC at 310 Portland. Come out of Mong Kok MTR at A2, first right into Portland street and there is a door just up on the right, small yellow sign, then a couple of flights of stairs. $370 honkies, chinese girls only. I got Amy, nice smile and a laugh from her even though she had no English. Shower first then good BBJ with ice, then mish, nice tight wet pussy, came too soon but never mind. She then tried massage for the rest of the time but was rubbish at it, I didn't mind as her smile made up for it. Great name GCC and worth a try.
Last week tried Globe's Regency Spa recommendation, I paid $598 for what was very good 90 min massage and an excellent hand job. FS was on offer for $898, so don't know how you managed it Globe?

Definitely on the low end, I picked up two quality suits for $4,200 Hong Kong dollars, very pleased similar to the quality in Japan but at least 1/2 the price as in HK.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Temujin87,

Most of the best tailor is in Hong Kong central area, There are also many in Tsim sha tsui also most cater to tourist, Hk have the best quality tailor in asia 1300 hkd for 2 suit is on the low end.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

Reported a few months ago about Noble Sauna at the basement of Peninsula Center (Kowloon side). Very good service however the price was $1200 hk, service was for 1 1/2 hours.

Have a local freind who took me to a sauna called Queenie Court Sauna located on Jordan Road, Kowloon, he has been there many times and if you go after 10:00 the cost is only $600. The mamasan who works in the evenings is fluent in english as well her name is Ling. The women here are much younger as they are local my freind is a regular so she treated us really well asked what I liked and ended up with a 23 year with a great body only has been working for two months. Nice massage towards the end of the massage she gets completely naked and massages your back with her body then flips you over massages your front and starts the BBJ. Then she slides into me and the fun begins., very firm body and breasts ends with a nice head massage (not the little johnson but your big head). If you want to stay after the massage you can sleep in the room until 7:00am when they close. Well worth it and the best sauna I have been too next too Macau where you can pick up the women out of a line up but the cost is considerably more at $1500-$2000 but the women are stunning.

[QUOTE=Apac Man]Not sure about HK, but as a gweilo I've heard it many times in mainland that gweilo have BIG tool that hurts the girls and of course all gweilo have STD!

Be Safe,

APAC Man (who has no big tool or STD)[/QUOTE]

I got that from a gal who did not want to do my friend who is black. I happen to have a bigger tool than his and I'm Asian and my tool is not of abnormal size. So these gals are FOS.

Of course its true that all Gweilos have STDs. AIDS didn't originate in China, it came from the gay/bi Gweilos that got it from fucking litthe green monkeys in Africa. LOL!

Anyone stayed at these before? Are they GF? Any comments?

I'm looking for something a bit more respectable than the Wharney (since I need to tell business contacts where I'm staying), but still want to be close to the action and totally GF (including bringing back 2).

Couldn't find much via RTFF...

Thanks,

-B-

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]When you get taken for a sucker, it doesn't matter for how much. The way the places work in Mong Kok, the gals are not exclusive to 1 place and if you know the gals name you can go to another YS place down the road and can get the same gal delivered. And from my experinece in Mong Kong, almost all the gals are trained to give good service.

If you start comparing what you get charged for in Neptunes, you can get laid for a month in Shenzhen or by Streetwalkers at the Temple Street markets for what guys report for what they spend on 1 ST gal and hotel in Neptunes but they are 2 different situations all together. And if you think the beer is expensive there, how do you justify P4P from there. I actually thought Neptune was a reasonably priced place to drink in Wanchai, discounting of course the bars where you get bucket of beer for under HK$200 during happy hour. And of course being molested by Thai hookers is free, LOL![/QUOTE]I was just in HK for a few days and back home now. I thought it would be good to try a few of the different things that HK has to offer, one of which was Neptune's. Frankly if I lived in HK I probably wouldn't go to Neptune's for a number of reasons, including price.

I got heavily ripped off in the King Bar by buying hugely over-priced ladydrinks. But the prices were printed clearly on the wall, and I was just stupid. I don't hold it against the bar, but did say that I would have been a good customer, but wouldn't be going back there again. In fact I did pop back in on my last evening to buy just myself a drink. The girls were very pleased to see me, at least until it was clear I was very firm on not buying a ladydrink!

I guess I was taken for a sucker, but by showing I didn't really give a f*** felt a bit better about it.

See if you can guess... She is a young Phillipino lady I met at Neptune's...

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I was just in HK for a few days and back home now. I thought it would be good to try a few of the different things that HK has to offer, one of which was Neptune's. Frankly if I lived in HK I probably wouldn't go to Neptune's for a number of reasons, including price.

I got heavily ripped off in the King Bar by buying hugely over-priced ladydrinks. But the prices were printed clearly on the wall, and I was just stupid. I don't hold it against the bar, but did say that I would have been a good customer, but wouldn't be going back there again. In fact I did pop back in on my last evening to buy just myself a drink. The girls were very pleased to see me, at least until it was clear I was very firm on not buying a ladydrink!

I guess I was taken for a sucker, but by showing I didn't really give a f*** felt a bit better about it.[/QUOTE]

I used to go to Neptune a lot as I used to regularly drink in Wanchai and that is where my buddies like to go when it gets late. I have never taken a gal out of there but have friends who regularly go there every week and think paying HK$1000+ ST is reasonable. But then I used to go nightclubbing with them in Hong Kong and Macau and have paid HK$2000+ ST.

I have not visited him in 2 years however prior to then, I saw him twice a year.
His is a small shop with a great variety of suit and shirt material. I have 8 suits, 20 shirts, 3 blazers and 5 pairs of dress slacks - all bought from him.

Everything is top quality and holds up very well to travel and dry cleaning.

Give him a visit:
DAVID Budhrani
17-19 Chatham Rd.
Empress Plaza
Shop 15, Groudd Floor TST
email: [email]info@davidfashions.com[/email]

I am from the US.
'bare

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Anyone stayed at [Novotel or Charterhouse] before? Are they GF? Any comments?[/QUOTE]

Bonzo

Both are GF. You have no problems there.

Novotel is within walking distance of the action in Wanchai, whereas the Charterhouse is a short cab ride away.

The Novotel's rooms are slightly better.

Have fun.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I got heavily ripped off in the King Bar by buying hugely over-priced ladydrinks. But the prices were printed clearly on the wall, and I was just stupid. I don't hold it against the bar, but did say that I would have been a good customer, but wouldn't be going back there again. In fact I did pop back in on my last evening to buy just myself a drink. The girls were very pleased to see me, at least until it was clear I was very firm on not buying a ladydrink! [/QUOTE]King's is a notoriously bad bar/club, and not because of the ladies drinks (there are, for info, different priced ladies drinks. They offer the highest priced ones as a matter of course but you can tell them you want the $140 ones). I went in to Kings several years ago. Was having a nice time until one of the girls who thought I was being well distracted snuck her hand into my pocket and lifted a $1, 000 from me. I clearly saw it. I asked for it back, she pretended that nothing happened. I asked Mama-san who was sitting right there. She said nothing happened. I made a stink and she said. Go call the cops. Thinking that I wouldn't want the attention, which I didn't. But I did call the cops. They came, said they couldn't do anything, said they would escort me to the bank to get more money to pay my bill. I mean, WTF. Along the way, the officer said to me that King's was the worst bar on the strip, known to all the police as a rip-off place, padding the tab, stealing money, etc. And that it was best to avoid that one. So it's not just the high priced ladies drinks. It's basically plain thievery at work.

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[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Anyone stayed at these before? Are they GF? Any comments?
[/QUOTE]

I stay regularly at the Charterhouse - absolutely no problem there.
Come out of the hotel, turn left and after 10 mins walk you are in the middle of Wanchai. A taxi back is around $HK20.
There are also the Cosmo and Cosmopolitan Hotels round the corner facing the racecourse - again no problem with bringing a friend back and they may just be slightly better hotels than the Charterhouse but there is nothing in it. Can't wait for my 2-week next trip in November. Hope Fenwicks will be open - its the best!

I stayed in Novotel last trip and I liked it a lot. I had no problem with girls. They have a second entrance on Jaffe which is where cabs drop you off. It is right next to the elevators, so you don't have to walk across the lobby with your toys. Not that I think that would matter. I did have fun the last time with a very conservative couple sharing the elevator with a Vietnamese stunner on my arm that didn't look a day over 18.

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Anyone stayed at these before? Are they GF? Any comments?

I'm looking for something a bit more respectable than the Wharney (since I need to tell business contacts where I'm staying), but still want to be close to the action and totally GF (including bringing back 2).

Couldn't find much via RTFF...

Thanks,

-B-[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kobe Beef]It won't take much to beat Traffik. The place is a pick up joint and nothing else.[/QUOTE]

Just heard that the opening will be on 12. October. As it are new owners they cant use the name "Fenwicks" anymore. The new name will be "Escape".

[QUOTE=Mouse1]See if you can guess... She is a young Phillipino lady I met at Neptune's...[/QUOTE]
Her watch? :) After all, it is the watch and jewelery show time in Hong Kong.

Be safe,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]I got that from a gal who did not want to do my friend who is black. I happen to have a bigger tool than his and I'm Asian and my tool is not of abnormal size. So these gals are FOS. .. LOL![/QUOTE]
Years ago, late 70's, there was a movie about a few families in California and one sub story was this black lady who was a maid and the white ladies used every occasion to inquire about the woman's husband and his size and she always talked about how frequent they did it and how hung he was... Then toward the end there was a Christmas party and she shows up with her husband and yes, you guessed it, he was Asian! :)

Be Safe,

APAC Man

I was excited about visiting HK once again. I have been coming about twice a year since 2007 and can definitely say this is one of the best destinations for mongering. HK is one of those places that even if you do not RTFF or arrive unprepared, it should not be a problem provided you are willing to explore. I usually stay in Kowloon (Tsim Shat Sui or Mong Kok) so have no idea about Wanchai.

HK offers some amazing options to monger ranging from apartment girls, saunas, street girls and bars. You can even Google the options and a variety of options will be presented. Before arriving I did RTFF briefly as well as another forum which was extremely useful. If you follow both these there is no need to ask a single question on the HK forum, unless you're just lazy.

My first night I'd booked myself to stay at the Langham Place in Mong Kok on my inbound journey for the night. The hotel itself is amazing and definitely five star however the surroundings are poor. Mong Kok is not the nicest part of HK but hotel is in a good mongering location. Checked in and had a shower and went to the adjacent mall to grab a bite to eat. Then I moved to the nearby 37D, the directions are which are freely available on ISG if you look properly.

Arrived at 37D and made my way to the first floor. For those who want to know, 37D is below an hourly hotel connected to the 37D. Language was initially a problem but I gathered they do have non-Chinese customers as another lady turned up speaking reasonable English. I was informed of the charges and introduced a line up. Declined what was on offer and another three women turned up. Picked the one who made most eye contact who was late 20's lady, not very slim but the better looking of the lot.

Was led to the hotel room upstairs where the charges were extra (didn't know about this). Okay room, slightly hot and cramped but ok for the deed. There was a shower in the room so that was the first stop and was given a rather thorough clean up. It was rather refreshing and with a lot of fondling and I started playing with her pussy immediately. She stopped this and said "wait for later". Asked her for a BBBJ in the shower but had to stop her within two mins as I was too horny and in danger of shooting my load in her.

Moved to the bedroom and asked for a short oily massage which did not help. She started a BBBJ with a lot of attention to my balls and AR. This carried on for another 5 mins and as horny as I was she was also trying to finish it quickly. Put on the condom and took her doggy while she was standing. Felt good so just carried on for about 10 mins and then asked her to ride me till I came. Clean up act followed by me dressing up and leaving soon after. I paid in total HK $550 including an undeserved tip. I would repeat 37D but only with a better line up. Overall, very rushed.

I still felt in need of a good message so I took a cab ride to Nathan Road and asked around for a massage parlour I had heard of before on my previous visit. Was guided to a parlour just off Nathan Road and inside a mall called Ottoman Square. I think I paid about HK $1000 for a real long massage. It was the normal drill of stripping in front of a guy who takes your clothes and gives you a gown, towel and slippers. This was followed by chilling our in the relaxing lounge where I asked for cold drink. This place looked really high class and reflected the price I was going to pay.

Was led down a corridor and into a dark room. Lady made a few phonecalls and started the massage which was almost an hour long. It was a fantastic genuine relaxing massage. I did randomly get touches to my balls and arse so it was an indication something was on offer. Close to the hour mark she said she could give me a special massage but instead opted for a quick HJ as I was now fairly sleepy. The lady was not all that anyway and I was not given a line up. Added another HK $50 for tips in total.

Worth a try and on a better day I feel there could be more than a HJ on offer. Returned to the hotel and near Temple St there was a lot of street action but I feel they were all being pimped. I decided to call it a night. More to report on HK soon.

On my return I'll try the 141 scene.

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[QUOTE=Temujin87]Anyone have access to a good tailor?

I need some custom shirts at 200-300HKD a pop, and perhaps another suit.

My friend found a tailor in Mong Kok and bought two suits for 1300. He hasn't picked up the suit yet so I'm not too sure about the quality.

Info is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Try the tailor shop inside the Sheraton in TST (walking distance from the ferry), I ordered some shirts there a few years ago, good quality at a reasonable price.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Try the tailor shop inside the Sheraton in TST (walking distance from the ferry), I ordered some shirts there a few years ago, good quality at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I had them make me a suit and a couple of shirts. Great, friendly service.

[QUOTE=El Greco]Read the south China forums. They are much closer than BKK/MNL/CLARK.[/QUOTE]Greco. Many thanks. Sth China sounds the best option as it would be the easiest for me to explain as business trips. Its also good to try new territory. I've enjoyed PHP and LOS several times before so repeat trips will raise suspisions.

I assume my lack of language skills will be an issue but a full wallet translates well.

Thanks again

So I call up a hotel reservation on 141 website. I picked a girl named Fiona, called and the operator told me to go to Regal Hotel in Kowloon, at the East Tsim Sha Tsui. I came right away after calling. Went up to the room, and knocked on the door several times. Waited for about 8 mins, at the front door. All I heard were her talking on the phone and footsteps all over. Finally after waiting for 8 mins, she opened up the door, and hid behind the door, so I couldn't get a look at her until I got into the door. When I got in, I turned around and saw her. She looked NOTHING like the photo. She was pretty tall, 5 feet 5 inches. Had an ok smile, slender and thin. But she had NO breasts at all. She was so flat that her bra looked like it was caving into her non existent breasts. I walked one step forward and her room, which looked like the size of a prison cell, was so messy as if she were living in there for weeks on end without cleaning it. Apparently she just woke up at 3 pm, and her hair was messy, she had sleepy eyes and her bed was all messy with ramen noodle cups all over the desk, makeup on the floor and this stain on the right side of the bed (which was a bed that combined two twin beds together, which I cannot imagine being very comfortable)

She was yawning when I was talking to her. I decided to walk out because she just seemed too drowsy and it totally killed the mood for me.

Another example of how 141 photoshops all of their girls, and lie about their body measurements to lure in clients. Still haven't' had any good experiences at 141 as of yet. It reminds me of the reason why people go up to China for this hobby. Because Hong Kong seems to get all of the leftover talent from China.

The only bearable experience at 141 was 2 months ago, with a hotel reservation girl named Wendy. She's quite tall, standing at close to 5 feet 6 inches. She's from Huizhou, Guangdong, but she looks nothing like a southern Guangdong girl, she has a really high nose bridge that makes her look almost artificial. I later on found out that she paid 3000 RMB to get her nose job, which looked pretty close to latoya jackson's nose job. She had an alright attitude, but she was much darker in skin tone, that what was revealed on the 141 website. 800 HKD for the total damage. It was a really rushed session, shower together for 5 mins or less. Cowgirl, then mission then doggy, then pop. Right after the pop, she rushes into the shower because her operator is calling non stop 2 mins after the pop, rushing her to go the shatin for her next appointment. Although she had semi good service, the overall 141 experience has been pretty dull and substandard these days. It's almost like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get!

AsnDragon

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I made my monthly visit to 37D and asked for Shelly again, but "not here, but will call her", then the other mama-san came in and said "not working here now"

Whatever, anyway I was presented with a line up of three and chose "Ni-Ni" from Hunan. A little taller than the other two, a little more meat on her bones and actually smiled. I was thinking that this session would be a bust, but I was quite pleasantly surprised when we got to the room. She was very affectionate, lots of good deep kisses and nice groping before entering the shower for the usual soaping down and BBBJ. Onto the bed and right into a 69 session with lots of AR, then on with the wrapper and to the main event--starting with cowgirl with some very convincing moaning, then to missionary to finish and it seemed pretty real for her. A bit of cuddling afterwards, which was very nice, then to the showers just before the phone rang. I'll definitely ask for Ni-Ni again and highly recommend her to you other mongers!

[QUOTE=Globe Spinner]On a recent overnight in HKG, I stayed at the Dorsett Seaview. Can't say anything good about the hotel, but below the hotel is the Regency Sauna. After a long flight, a sauna sounded like a good idea. Like all saunas, undressed, put things in locker, showered, then led into a relax room and offered a drink. After about 5 mins. Led to a dark room with massage table and a rather attractive 25 year old. No line-up was offered. After 45 minutes of a really good massage, full service was offered for HK$600 total. Service started with CBJ, followed by various positions (that is possible on a massage table). After 90 mins, I asked for more time and got another hour and a half for HK$500. If you are looking for a massage to go full service, I would recommend Regency.[/QUOTE]Lucky you! :)

I was there about a week ago and only got a HJ. I'm a polite, average 30-something white guy, FWIW, if that is any kind of factor. The guy in the change room even emphasized that there is no FS, only HJ, when giving the prices and the massage girl did the same later. In my case, she was also attractive and 25ish. So, for me, it was HK600 for a good massage+HJ - I'm not complaining, as this was told beforehand and it was otherwise a pleasant experience. But maybe this is a case of "your mileage may vary... "

So I had problems finding 37D for the longest time. If I had been able to access it, then I would not have settled for such bad 141 service. I was wondering, based on what was written it describes the following:

37 Dundas is between Nathan Road and Portland Street. If you turn onto Dundas from Nathan it is on your right, on your left if you turn on Dundas from Portland. Look for the yellow sign hanging above the street. It says $390. Below the sign is a sidewalk. Follow the sidewalk just a few steps and you are there.

But even with these instructions it was hard for me to navigate around all the messy signs that are displayed all over the streets. HK can be rather confusing at times. I looked like some dumb tourist lost and confused. Anyone shed some light if I was on the right track? Still couldn't see it.

AsnDragon

[QUOTE=Bob2103]I made my monthly visit to 37D and asked for Shelly again, but "not here, but will call her", then the other mama-san came in and said "not working here now"

Whatever, anyway I was presented with a line up of three and chose "Ni-Ni" from Hunan. A little taller than the other two, a little more meat on her bones and actually smiled. I was thinking that this session would be a bust, but I was quite pleasantly surprised when we got to the room. She was very affectionate, lots of good deep kisses and nice groping before entering the shower for the usual soaping down and BBBJ. Onto the bed and right into a 69 session with lots of AR, then on with the wrapper and to the main event--starting with cowgirl with some very convincing moaning, then to missionary to finish and it seemed pretty real for her. A bit of cuddling afterwards, which was very nice, then to the showers just before the phone rang. I'll definitely ask for Ni-Ni again and highly recommend her to you other mongers![/QUOTE]

What does it mean "serve for PD" in 141 Girls database search?
On a different note, what is PSE? Second should be easy one.

[QUOTE=AsnDragon]So I had problems finding 37D for the longest time. AsnDragon[/QUOTE]

Check out the Maps section, first page, bottom post by Tiger. It shows pictures of 37D. TYou can also go to [url]www.centamap.com[/url] and click English and put the address in the search area and a map will come up showing you the location.

Have fun in HK!

[QUOTE=Questner]What does it mean "serve for PD" in 141 Girls database search?
On a different note, what is PSE? Second should be easy one.[/QUOTE]

It stands for "serve for the physically disabled", but how that occurs when you have to climb a few flights of stairs is beyond me. PSE - porn star experience?

[QUOTE=Corvette1]Thanks. Anywhone knows any good places close to Jordan road/ Nathan road?

Massage places, bars or streets to pic up?

Or are the most action in Wan Chai?

Any problems to bring the ladys from Whan Chai to Kowlon?[/QUOTE]Any recomendation? K Pressure or Dundas 27?

Thanks. Helps out a whole lot! Appreciate it. are any of the girls hot? Or is it sort of a hit or miss type of deal?

[QUOTE=Ramn HK]Check out the Maps section, first page, bottom post by Tiger. It shows pictures of 37D. TYou can also go to [url]www.centamap.com[/url] and click English and put the address in the search area and a map will come up showing you the location.

Have fun in HK![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Corvette1]Any recomendation? K Pressure or Dundas 27?[/QUOTE]
I prefer Dundas, they usually bring you 4 to choose from. K Pressure brings them 1 at a time. You can ask to see another one, but I find it easier, more convenient, and more fun to choose from the lineup as it were.

The advantage of K Pressure is that they leave you alone with the girl for a few minutes, during which she tries to convince you to choose her. That can be fun, too.

Depends on what you like.

[QUOTE=AsnDragon]Thanks. Helps out a whole lot! Appreciate it. are any of the girls hot? Or is it sort of a hit or miss type of deal?[/QUOTE]
37 Dundas is hit or miss, IMO.

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]I prefer Dundas, they usually bring you 4 to choose from. K Pressure brings them 1 at a time. You can ask to see another one, but I find it easier, more convenient, and more fun to choose from the lineup as it were.

The advantage of K Pressure is that they leave you alone with the girl for a few minutes, during which she tries to convince you to choose her. That can be fun, too.

Depends on what you like.[/QUOTE]
I've actually had the opposite experience at Dundas. They'd bring one girl at a time into the room to entice me. Never have they offered me a lineup.

Had 2 great visits to K Pressure recently.

While K Pressure is often reported on here, it’s not always easy to get info on the location so I’ll repeat where it is.

It’s on Kowloon island near the intersection of Nathan Road and Jordan Road. The entrance is on Shanghai Street near the corner of Shanghai Street and Jordan Road. Look for the 24 hour McDonald’s on Shanghai street and you will find K Pressure close by. The nearest MTR station is Jordan (Exit A).

On my first visit the lady I met was from mainland China and on my second visit the lady was from Hong Kong. Both ladies in early 30s. Not super hot but they were attractive and the service I received was excellent. On both visits, I could have asked to see more ladies but I didn’t as I was very happy with the lady I met.

I had the usual 45 minute service often reported on this board. I was put on the mat in the shower for a good soaping and cleaning. Then nice massage, very enjoyable with good use of hands, body rubbing and AR.

Then I was turned over for body rub on the front of my body and then great BJ. Then we dried ourselves and onto the bed for more BJ then FS with girl on top and then missionary.

Very enjoyable. I recommend K Pressure if you are looking for a great Chinese massage! The same type of service I had is standard and on offer from all the ladies there. I will go again if I am in Hong Kong again.

The cost was 500 Hong Kong Dollars. 390 to the papasan and 110 to the hotel upstairs for a room where the action takes place.

[QUOTE=Goferring]Greco. Many thanks. Sth China sounds the best option as it would be the easiest for me to explain as business trips. Its also good to try new territory. I've enjoyed PHP and LOS several times before so repeat trips will raise suspisions.

I assume my lack of language skills will be an issue but a full wallet translates well.

Thanks again[/QUOTE]

Contact Big Swinging Dave at Dongguan Forum (Chang Ping) he will take care of you showing you the ropes there. Easy to reach from HGK. That's where I am heading tomorrow from LOS for a change.

Tried 37D for the first time and returned for a second visit. The directions found here on this thread are great. I actually walked there from my hotel and had no problems finding it. I walked up the stairs and was greeted by several ladies to a sitting area. As it was three in the afternoon, there was no one else waiting. After about two minutes, I was taken to another more private sitting room where the whole program was explained. The session was 50 minutes long, and the cost HK$350 plus HK$100 paid to the "hotel" upstairs. Two minutes later, a lineup of four girls were brought in. It was pretty dark, but all were attractive in the 23-28 year old range. I picked the one who made the best eye contact and she took me upstairs to the hotel. I paid the hotel and went to the room. The room was clean. The only annoying thing is the TV playing Chinese porno. I had to turn the sound down to silence the fake moaning. The girl undressed me, then herself and led me to a good sized shower. There she proceeded to give me a rather thorough cleaning with special emphasis on my backside. Then she got on her knees and proceeded with an excellent BBBJ nearly to completion. Out of the shower, dry off, then ordered face down on the bed. She is using sign language as I don't speak any Cantonese or Mandarin. Next is the cat bath.- not unpleasing. Next she spreads my cheeks and begins the most thorough AR I have ever experienced. Lots of licking, sucking and tongue thrusts. Wow. After about fifteen mimutes of that, she flips me and it's back to the BBBJ. Just before I blow, she pops on a cover and goes cowgirl until I pop. She then cleans me up and begins a massage. I try to ask about round two, but apparently it's not part of the routine. Time's up, back to the shower where she cleans me up, we dress and head downstairs.

WIR? Absolutely.

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My second trip to 37D started the same as the first. It was afternoon and not crowded. The lineup was four girls.- different girls from a few days before. All attractive and under 30. Again picked based on attitude. Went to the room, undressed and into the shower. This girl apparently likes to work in the shower. After a thorough scrubbing, she starts BBBJ, then five minutes of pretty good AR. Dry off, to the bed. This time the cat bath is face up with lots of ball licking, then on to BBBJ. The BJ was excellent and after about ten minutes I popped. That apparently was her plan because I couldn't convey to her that I wanted to start round two. She proceeded to perform a massage until time ran out, then another shower and it was over. Certainly a different experience from my first trip, but not an unpleasant one. 37D is a great way to kill an hour adn the girls are well trained in their job. WIR? Next trip to HKG, you bet.

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]I prefer Dundas, they usually bring you 4 to choose from. K Pressure brings them 1 at a time. You can ask to see another one, but I find it easier, more convenient, and more fun to choose from the lineup as it were.

The advantage of K Pressure is that they leave you alone with the girl for a few minutes, during which she tries to convince you to choose her. That can be fun, too.

Depends on what you like.[/QUOTE]Is K Pressure is in Wonsung street? A couple of years ago i think that place was famous for rimming? Is that corect? Do they steel start with that? What about to girls? Do thety do lesbian show?

I went to a place with the entrance just in Woosung street and just 10m in from Jordan. I don't know if it was the famous K Pressure or not, I just saw the letter K on a yellow sign with a slogan something like "It is a mans paradise. Enjoy yourself."
Well, enjoy myself I did, I thought it much better than 37D, nicer atmosphere, better decorated. Mama made it clear that I could see one girl at a time to chose and no charge for looking. Rejected the first after being told that she was new and some blurb about her BJ which I took to mean she needed some tuition still. Took the second girl, Ga ling or some such name, good fun smiling girl who did me a nice soapy body massage on an air bed in the shower, then very thorough rimming. BBBJ with ice then very well done, thought I'd catch her out with a CIM but no she was very professional and knew exactly when I was coming and got it out of her mouth with milliseconds to spare, good girl!
On way out Mama wanted a report from me and I was able to confirm satisfaction, told her I'd do a good internet write up and here it is. $390 for the girl, $108 for the "hotel". Best Value for money I've had in HK.

hit wan chai about 3 am thu night/fri morning. laguna was completely dead. hit traffik. talked to a few girls, then i saw this hottie with about 3 european guys, but somehow instantly she peeled off and started talking to me. she told me her name was sukanya and she was half thai and half mexican. she instantly agreed to $1000 st which i found a little odd.

so we went to ming court. while on the way there, she said, let's hurry, there's a guy following us. i turned around and saw some dude about 20m behind us but couldn't tell whether he was following us or not. but maybe she was right so i quickened my pace and went to our room. there were two middle eastern guys in the elevator with us, when we got up to the desk they showed us to a room immediately and told the middle eastern guys $380. i was about to say wtf why so much? but they quickly showed me to a room and asked me for only $280. lol

anyway, when we got into the room this girl told me she had been a model in thailand and that she was a little bit famous and that people like to take pictures of her like paparazzi, and that she'd been seen on star tv, and that if we walked out of the place together we'd probably see photographers and our pictures would be in the thai media. wtf???? i said are you serious, why didn't you mention this before, is that what that guy following us was doing? if so i am not even touching you, get the fuck out of here and i am not paying you. then she said, just kidding, you seem nervous so i am just playing with you. i said that is not the way to play with me, that pisses me off and i am not paying you. she said okay okay just settle down.

now i realize what she said is extremely unlikely but still, that sort of thing rattles the nerves. so we did the deed; she wasn't that good but serviceable. fake tits, shaved ****, standard.

afterward she said i better leave first if you don't want your picture taken, there are probably people waiting outside. i was about to get pissed again but i figured just let her leave since i didn't want to be around her anymore anyway.

when i left there wasn't anyone in sight except a couple of drunkards and a few indian dudes being harrassed by the police.

has anyone ever encountered this ***** and have any info about her?

Johnny Rocket, I don't understand why you got angry with the girl. It seemed that she was just trying to lighten the mood. The only thing you should be mad about is that you were charged $280 at Ming Court. They tried charging me $200 once, but I claimed to have paid only $160 before, to which they agreed. I was lying though and only had read on this forum that the rate was $160!

I'm planning my 2nd trip to Hong Kong for near Christmas and am debating the Cosmopolitan or Cosmo Hotels. I've read that both are GF but are the hotels too close to Wanchai?

Last time I stayed at the Intercontinental Grand Stanford and felt cut off from the Wanchai action (that's a long cab ride at 2 in the AM) but I don't want to be so close that the LT girls get up and leave and go back to work in the middle of the night.

And how close are the Cosmo and Cosmopolitan to the MTR stations? The reviews make it sound like they are far; the Grand Stanford was a brisk multiple block walk which I got used to quickly.

Thanks.

That is to say, I'm in the midst of a serious hotel freakout. Need to book my xmas/new year's stay in the next week and still up in the air about where to stay.

Want to be closer to the action this time but not so close that my LT will leave.

My narrowed down list is: Cosmo, Cosmopolitan, Empire Wanchai, Metropark Causeway Bay, Metropark Wanchai.

I would rather stay at a hotel close to the MTR and shops and have a short walk/cab ride to Wanchai each night than stay right near the clubs in Wanchai.

However, a girl friendly place is essential.

Thank you!

I've always liked the metropark in causeway bay. It's got this modern look to it. It's been recently built only about 4-5 years ago so it still feels new. It's about a 2-3 block walk to the MTR.

One of my favorite hotels to stay at. Cosmopolitan is right next to a cemetary, so it don't really like it's location. You have to walk a little further, crossing streets and sky walkways to get around, which could be cumbersome in my opinion.

AsnDragon

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]That is to say, I'm in the midst of a serious hotel freakout. Need to book my xmas/new year's stay in the next week and still up in the air about where to stay.

Want to be closer to the action this time but not so close that my LT will leave.

My narrowed down list is: Cosmo, Cosmopolitan, Empire Wanchai, Metropark Causeway Bay, Metropark Wanchai.

I would rather stay at a hotel close to the MTR and shops and have a short walk/cab ride to Wanchai each night than stay right near the clubs in Wanchai.

However, a girl friendly place is essential.

Thank you![/QUOTE]

Cosmo and Cosmopolitan are basically right next to each other. Cosmo being the lower quality hotel and Cosmopolitan being the higher end hotel. Both had a face-lift about 2-3 years ago, so it's relatively new. They are a bit far from the MTR. And getting around is a bit confusing. Although they say it' sin wanchai, it's at the border of wan chai and Causeway Bay. It's about a 10-15 min walk to Times Square in causeway Bay. Fairly far if MTR is a concern. However if you are taking a taxi, it should not matter. Hope you don't mind living next to a cemetery.

AsnDragon

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I'm planning my 2nd trip to Hong Kong for near Christmas and am debating the Cosmopolitan or Cosmo Hotels. I've read that both are GF but are the hotels too close to Wanchai?

Last time I stayed at the Intercontinental Grand Stanford and felt cut off from the Wanchai action (that's a long cab ride at 2 in the AM) but I don't want to be so close that the LT girls get up and leave and go back to work in the middle of the night.

And how close are the Cosmo and Cosmopolitan to the MTR stations? The reviews make it sound like they are far; the Grand Stanford was a brisk multiple block walk which I got used to quickly.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]That is to say, I'm in the midst of a serious hotel freakout. Need to book my xmas/new year's stay in the next week and still up in the air about where to stay.

Want to be closer to the action this time but not so close that my LT will leave.

My narrowed down list is: Cosmo, Cosmopolitan, Empire Wanchai, Metropark Causeway Bay, Metropark Wanchai.

I would rather stay at a hotel close to the MTR and shops and have a short walk/cab ride to Wanchai each night than stay right near the clubs in Wanchai.

However, a girl friendly place is essential.

Thank you![/QUOTE]Hi,

I stayed in the metropark wanchai for now 3 times, and I realy liked it.

It is very close to the action and very convinient for all other activetys and business. 1 time I sayed in a standard room, this is a bit to small, and I did not liked this very much, ti was clean and ok but to smal.

The other times I had a executive rool and this was very good. It was GF and I never had a problem to get some visit. Wonderful. I got a phantastic rate abote 80 euros per night. Very good location

Have fun

Thanks everyone!

I should add that I am staying for almost 3 weeks this time if that matters in the decision.

I liked what I read about the Cosmo and Cosmopolitan (as well as the price on some websites) but do not want to have to sign in my guests after midnight.

And they sound farther away than I thought.

How about the Ice House? That's serviced apartments and it sounds decent and the price is good.

Is the Metropark Wan Chai *too* close to the action? Could be good as the last time, I had to take my girl from East Tsim Sha Tsui in a cab to Wan Chai the next morning to get her clothes when she decided to stay with me for another day.

Cinta J (spelling?) is a good restaurant in Wan Chai, if a bit pricey. And I spied some Thai places there that looked promising.

This time, I'm spending less on food and staying closer for sure.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I liked what I read about the Cosmo and Cosmopolitan (as well as the price on some websites) but do not want to have to sign in my guests after midnight. And they sound farther away than I thought.[/QUOTE]Try the Charterhouse Hotel in Wan Chai Road (near Times Square). Its GF and you don't sign in girls at night. Its 5 mins from Causeway Bay MTR and only 10 mins walk from the heart of Wanchai. Get a superior room as the others are on the small side, particularly as you are there for 3 weeks. I am staying there myself in November for 2 weeks.

The Cosmo and Cosmopoilitan Hotels are fine - nothing wrong with them. Get a room at the front if the cemetary at the back bothers you. I have stayed in them all. There must be some slow walkers in our midst! Come out of the Cosmopolitan Hotel and there is a underpass right outside of the front door. Take it to the other side of the road, turn left and go up past the entrance to the football club. Pass it , turn left at the end of the road and walk down to Times Square past the Cricket Club on your LHS (its now a bowling club). It takes 5/6 mins to the MTR. From memory, the hotels run a courtesy bus to Times Square during the day. A taxi to Wan Chai is only 5 mins and costs about HK$20.

There are dozens of good eating places in the area - depends what you are looking for. I would not stay right in Wan Chai - too near the action!

I have stayed numerous times in the MetroPark, Wharney, and the Comopolitan.

I will say I like the MetroPark the best, but it is close to the action if that matters to you. The rooms have all been deep cleaned, after the H1N1 thing a few months back. (I lucked out, because I was in the hotel 3 days before the lockdown, that would have been hard to explain. LOL)

The Cosmopolitan is nice, but the room I had was really small. I had no problem bringing my girl in with me, although I did have the same girl both nights. And it was worth it.

I also used the Empire in Wanchai, and that was a good hotel as well. I wound up with two girls in the room, when my girl had the key to her place and her friend couldn't get into their apartment. She came to get the key, and wound up "joining" the fun and spent the night. It did cost me an extra breakfast.

The only thing that really bothers me is the extra charge for internet. I have booked all three using Agoda.com and have been satisfied with their service.

This is probably already reported to death but I went there for fun and for only $390 HKD you get full service with great attitude.

Oh, and do not be shy to keep rejecting the girls. Their style is to usually lowball you with below average girls, hoping you are too shy to say no. Just keep saying "no" and then say "maybe I'll return at another date" and they will usually relent and start sending in the good girls.

Just today I rejected 7 girls until they finally send in one hottie, 8 face, 10 body (great natural breasts) and 8 service (only complaint is she doesn't really know how to chat up a conversation and is more of an answering machine.) Her name is "Tang Tang" if you want to try her for yourself, LOL

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]I have stayed numerous times in the MetroPark, Wharney, and the Comopolitan.

I will say I like the MetroPark the best....[/QUOTE]I fully agree. Metropark Kowloon has great clean rooms, walking distance to 37D (10 mins.) and the action near Nathan Road. I found it best for bringing girls from Wanchai as it was a short taxi ride (in the middle of the night), but far enough that the girl has more incentive to stay the night. Also, for you shy guys, there is no walk of shame as the main desk is one floor up from the ground floor, and if you happen to see a security guy, he could care less. Best price is on Agoda.

Anywone now if its a problem to bring girls in to Novotel, Nathan Road, Kowlon?

i was in hk for business recently and arranged to stay at the empire, having checked out this thread for tips on hotels and the scene in general.

i arrived mid-afternoon after my overnight long-haul and checked in. the room was comfortable and clean if a little small for my liking. after a shower and a snooze i was ready to check out the scene early evening. i walked back and forth through the key areas, noting the various pubs/clubs as indicated on the very useful map posted by tiger888:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=398108[/url]

i grabbed some dinner at a restaurant near neptune then proceeded to walk again. first i checked out the pharmacy directly opposite the empire for viagra and cialis. they sold both over the counter but the prices seemed steep to me.- v hk$600 or c hk$700 for four tabs.- so i decided not to partake.

i then wandered down lockhart where i was tempted into a bar for "cheap beer". stupid newbie mistake! i entered a pleasant looking bar to discover i was the only man in there, but that there were about 10-15 attractive girsl all dressed (to varying degrees) in skin tight red dresses. i was immediately accompanied either side by two filipino girls, both early 20s and very attractive and attentive, draping themselves over me. as i am naively thinking "this is *great*, i am rudely brought to my senses by the suggestion that i buy the girls a drink. *now* i realise the deal, and decide i will bail after i have downed my beer quickly. i made it clear to the girls i was not going to buy them anything. one decided to go back outside to tempt some more punters, while the other hung in there. i left her a small tip of hk$20 as compensation for her time, but was glad to be back out in the street. after that i avoided the plethora of bars with closed doors offering cheap beer, even though on at least 3-4 occasions i physically had to pull myself out of the clutches of an over-eager mamasan.

even though it was still relatively early, i decided to check out the clubs. first i went to neptune, where i downed a couple of beers in quick order (using a 2 for 1 card i had acquired while walking the area) and scanned the room. the dance floor was already fairly full, but i was rather underwhelmed with the quality of girls and left after about 20mins.

after one or two unmemorable stops i ended up in laguna. the talent here seemed better, and the atmosphere was livelier. i was just about to cruise around the room when suddenly the music stopped, there were loud noises and screaming and people started pouring towards the stairs to get out. i was trapped near the bar so simply had to hope this would pass. i found myself squashed up against a really pretty, if overly petite girl, who introdcued herself as bea (i think! ) from vietnam. i asked if she knew what was happening.- she didn't.- and she suggested we leave together. as she was the prettiest i had seen all night and was keen for my hotel room to see some action, i thght this a good idea, but.- perhaps making a newbie mistake.- i dived straight into a negotiation. maybe i should have taken her to a quietr bar for a drink to start and see where it went. anyway, i can't remember much how it went until we ended up with her wanting hk$1000 for 1hr. i offered hk$900 but she said no, so i decided to leave and try my luck elsewhere.

i checked out a few more places, and even returned to laguna, where the atmosphere post-fight was now very flat, and no sign of bea. somehow ended up back in neptune deciding on one more for the road, then i would head back to the hotel and service myself for free!

as i sipped away at my last beer, who should sit down at the bar almost next to me but the gorgeous viet girl from laguna. i decide that i will offer her the 1k for 1hr and she agrees immediately. she was very affectionate, holding hands and flirting as we walked back to the empire, and i had no trouble taking her into the hotel. however as we got halfway up the lift she asked if i had a condom. nope. so back down the lift again and across the road to the 7-11, ten back up to the hotel. she had claimed that this was her first day in hk, and that i was her first customer. later she showed me her passport stamp and proved this really was the case.

she undressed to reveal a quite tiny but beautiful body, though she had no tits to speak of. she lay on the bed (i thought this was rather passive behaviour for a wg), and after some kissing (tongues ok) i moved down to her nipples, then her pussy. she was sweet tasting and it didn't take long before she was wet. i went to finger her too, but i sensed that she was not keen on me doing this and did not force the issue.

next it was my turn and she gave a competent, though rather shallow and perhaps inexperienced bbbj. then out came our recent purchase and with her on top she slid down nicely without the need for any additional lube (i doubt she had any with her). a spot of this, then some missionary, then some nice doggie. i tried slip a finger into her bum but she was not keen on this either, so i decided we'd go back to her mouth. without me asking she removed the condom and carried on the bbbj. this "degraded" into mostly stroking, with occasional licking of the end of my cock apparently expectantly. when i did come i shot a nice load all over her lips and perhaps some into her mouth, before she retracted in some horror while the rest of my load sprayed and then dribbled down onto my stomach and chest. all in all a very nice ending. as i basked in this, she retreated to the bathroom where i discovered her grappling with the child-proof cap on my mouth-wash.- she had evidently not enjoyed my splooge in her mouth, but in some respects this made my night!

having dressed and redone her makeup, i kissed her by the room door and sent her on her way. all in all a good experience, though certainly not what i had bargained for.

best,

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Arrived by Taxi around 10 PM and got out at the corner of Lockhart and Fenwick. Near the corner a tout calls us in to this bar – well, more of a strip club. There was a stage with chairs along side. Lots of girls and my wingman and I are the only dudes in the place. We sit down at the stage, order beers and a couple of Pinays come up. Mine was a real spinner. Bought them drinks and we were guided to a quiet booth near the front door. In less than a minute they each had our respective "Juniors" out and doing the head bobble. Not bad for 10 minutes in Wanchai. At this point with my little head doing the thinking, I asked the girl how much for all night. She flagged Mama and I get a price of HK$3, 000. Are you crazy? After a couple attempts at negotiation, we give up and head out the door. Having "read the thread", we made a beeline for Neptune II. Place was packed, but what a party. Killer band. It's worth the trip for the music and dancing – but that's not really what we are there for, is it? To make a long story short, after chatting-up a dozen or so girls and still getting crazy price quotes, I find myself without my wingman and comfortably seated in back with each arm around a Pinay. It's nearly 2 AM – half the night gone, and I don't want to make a decision. So, I proposed the girls splitting HK$1, 500 plus breakfast and taxi. They accepted and we headed for my hotel. Neither was bi and one was pretty shy in front of her friend, but she got over her shyness and in the end we all had a great time together. Thanks to vitamin C, I managed to satisfy them both and them me. We slept late, dabbled a bit while waking up, and then had breakfast together. All in all a very pleasant time.

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Thanks for the all the advice for my 2nd trip to HK!

I like what I read about the Metropark Kowloon but it seems far from Wanchai!

I will end up spending $11 a day on cabs back from the clubs in Wanchai and that will add up to another $200 by the time my 3 weeks are up I'm sure.

I'm guessing that the Metropark Wanchai is too close to the action to be safe.

I'm leaning towards the Charterhouse now.

I like the Cosmopolitan and Cosmo and they are always reasonable priced on the package deal sites but I REALLY REALLY don't want to have to sign my girls in every night.

I was so nervous bringing girls back to the Grand Stanford.

Mind you, no one ever said a word but I know what they were thinking! And I refused some hot women in Neptunes because they were just too obvious and I couldn't make the walk of shame with them. Had to stick to the normal girls.

hey great report,

But can anyone else confirm are the prices that steep now or just bad negotiation?

I was there in May and june and 1500 got me LT around midnight.

Wizard

No, those aren't the prices. Many, many girls will ask for that amount. Some (as in the case of the Viet girl) will get it. Also, the later it gets, the more desperate the girls get so prices will very. If one counters a $1,000 offer with a $900 bid, the girl is going to know she'll get the offer rate. That's part of Asian negotiating - counter low enough to let them know you mean business and not too low so as to offend. Either that or know what the 'fixed price' is and stick to that.

The 'fixed price' should be in the $500 range for Short Time (which can be up to a couple of hours) to $1,000 for Long Time. Yes, some girls will not go for that and you will lose them, but it's not like there are not a lot of girls in Wanchai. The Africans and South Americans (latter of which I have had no experience with in Hong Kong) hold out for more, but I do recall taking two Africans out for short time for $500 each (the experience wasn't worth that much but, I was drunk, it was late, and they were ... anyway).

[QUOTE=Basah]No, those aren't the prices.
.[/QUOTE]

You guys are giving me a heart attack about the prices I see being quoted in Wan Chai. Avutarda pays HK$1000 for 1 hour!
Globe Spinner is being quoted hefty prices. Why dont mongerers read the forum and stay clear of the girlie bars which are simply rip-off joints - HK$3000!!! No way. Having said that, HK$1500 for 2 Pinays for the night is not too bad.

I am coming next month and I have never paid anywhere near these prices. Basah is a lot nearer the mark - HK$500 ST and HK$1000 LT. I have always paid in this region without a problem. Ok, they start higher but within a few seconds they are down to commonm-sense amounts.
Paying these inflated prices is going to kill it for everyone.
Must make an appointment with the bank manager - looks as if I might need a loan.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]Thanks for the all the advice for my 2nd trip to HK!
I'm leaning towards the Charterhouse now.
I like the Cosmopolitan and Cosmo and they are always reasonable priced on the package deal sites but I REALLY REALLY don't want to have to sign my girls in every night.
I was so nervous bringing girls back to the Grand Stanford.
Mind you, no one ever said a word but I know what they were thinking! And I refused some hot women in Neptunes because they were just too obvious and I couldn't make the walk of shame with them. Had to stick to the normal girls.[/QUOTE]

The Charterhouse is a good bet - I use it regularly.
There is nothing wrong about with the Cosmopolitan - you dont sign anyone in. There is a guy at a desk near the elevator after midnight and he simply ticks your name off on a list he has. He does ask for the girl's details. After two nights, and with different girls, he did not even do that with me - just nodded as I made my way to the elevator.

Whats more - I went with my "friend" for breakfast every morning - no problems. Got a few frosty looks but only from the female guests - from the male guests, only looks of envy. If I was a mind reader, I bet they are saying "Dirty lucky bastard".

Who cares what they are thinking anyway!

I am a long time reader but virgin in terms of posting. So want to post some of my old experiences.

Go to those bars if you want to drink beer only.

And don't get in when you feel drunk or even a little drunk. Say I want to check inside if I like I will stay. Then order a beer and refuse all lady drinks. Prepare for bad treatment and some cantonese or tagalog cursing.

They will leave you alone and ignore you. Then get out as soon as you finish your beer. Sure they won't let you to order second beer. The beers are really cheaper when compare to other bars. But that is all.

You can grab a girl from these bars on weekdays at late hours at reasonable prices. But don't expect high quality girls left inside. But sometimes worth to check late at night. Once I take out a very attractive girl for 1.200 HKD and it was 1 am.

Her looks and skills were top of the hill. But next time when I try to take her again her price jumped to 3000 HKD. Thank you very much. Maybe previous day the business was so slow and they want to close the bar early.

Be prepared to hard bargains in any bar. And don't make rookie mistake. If someone asks for 1000 HKD for LT or ST. Don't say 900 HKD. Better ask for 600. 700 HKD. Don't ask for lower too. But if you ask 900 HKD these girls know that you are into the deal but just wanting some more discount in which case they won't accept to dicrease the price.

And never but never order a LD in any bars at first. Even you are a newcomer or newbie act as if an old dog. Tell things about 3-4 years earlier about HK. How old fenwicks was the place etc.

And tell girls they have to deserve the LD. At that moment the girls will get closer to your small brother. Try to have fun as much as you can over there.

Don't be shy at all. Those girls know why you are over there. And you know why they are over there.

PS I tried 141 2-3 times and never satisfied with the result. The girls are very middle in quality and service. Better to give a little more and get a girl from Wanchai. If some people know hidden treasures then I will appreciate their advices but untill then I won't try 141 any more.

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Last year I stayed at the Wharney Hotel in Wanchai. It was very girl friendly. I brought a young lady through the lobby and into the elevator and the desk clerks hardly even look at me. In the tiny elevator a man remarked that Hong Kong is a wonderful city. I heartily agreed and later was entertained by my very attractive and young Thai guest whom I had met at the Neptune. She first wanted to dance. I couldn't figure out why, but just went along and shuffled a little. Then after a shower she got down to business with a massage and then a bbbj (cost: US$100). Then she left presumably to go back to the Neptune and I had a nice sleep.

In about a week I will be returning for the Hong Kong Gift and Premium fair and will be staying at the Harborview Hotel on Harbor Road in Wanchai (very close to the convention center). I am wondering if this hotel is gf. Also, can I expect to bring back a girl ST for US$100 or less?

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]I have stayed numerous times in the MetroPark, Wharney, and the Comopolitan.[/quote]Stayed at the Cosmopolitan once and was not happy about it.

Small and smelly room and on two consecutive nights they did register the part time girlfriends. The one on the second night was a regular domestic helper and she got the shits about beeing registered as a WG with the LE. She was nervous all night long and accordingly did not perform as expected.

Anyone know if Lanson Place Hotel, Causeway Bay, is girl friendly? if so is there a walk of shame?

Hi all. I arrived in HK earlier today and needed to head ot for some action. I decided not to do the Wanchai thing today as too tired.

So I decided to go to Mong Kok for a massage and extras.

There's a place on Portland street it's called Massage Place. I have been there a few times before in prior trips and always have a good time. Same as most sauna's you get taken to the shower room where you get assistance changing. You take a shower and then chill out in the lounge in chairs watching TV. I had a coke and one of the workers explained the menu. You can have a massage only for $350, massage and HJ for $500$, FS for $700+. 4-hands massage for $839 which is what I opted for.

You are taken to a room where your girl and an older women are waiting for you. You get a 90min massage where both ladies give you a nice proper massage. After 90 mins the older lady leaves and you do your thing with you 20 year old Chinese lady. I have been there 3 times so far and have not been disappointed with the looks and skills of the lady. The one I had today even kissed me full on, which is unusual in HK sauna. You get an hour with your girl and one pop. Any time left over she will massage you and finally she will clean you up with hot towels, which is nice.

You then get taken back to the shower room to wash and then you pay your bill and on your way.

To get to this place you turn on to Dundas Street, off Nathan road, you walk past the famous number 37. You take your first right and you on Portland street, you keep walking and this place is on your right hand side. It has a big board on the front saying massage place and there is usually a desk on the street with someone sitting there who is more then happy to take you inside.

Have fun.

than a funny and intelligent hot chick who likes to use her imagination! ok, what was wrong again? ;)

[quote=johnny rocket]hit wan chai about 3 am thu night/fri morning. laguna was completely dead. hit traffik. talked to a few girls, then i saw this hottie with about 3 european guys, but somehow instantly she peeled off and started talking to me. she told me her name was sukanya and she was half thai and half mexican. she instantly agreed to $1000 st which i found a little odd.

so we went to ming court. while on the way there, she said, let's hurry, there's a guy following us. i turned around and saw some dude about 20m behind us but couldn't tell whether he was following us or not. but maybe she was right so i quickened my pace and went to our room. there were two middle eastern guys in the elevator with us, when we got up to the desk they showed us to a room immediately and told the middle eastern guys $380. i was about to say wtf why so much? but they quickly showed me to a room and asked me for only $280. lol

anyway, when we got into the room this girl told me she had been a model in thailand and that she was a little bit famous and that people like to take pictures of her like paparazzi, and that she'd been seen on star tv, and that if we walked out of the place together we'd probably see photographers and our pictures would be in the thai media. wtf???? i said are you serious, why didn't you mention this before, is that what that guy following us was doing? if so i am not even touching you, get the fuck out of here and i am not paying you. then she said, just kidding, you seem nervous so i am just playing with you. i said that is not the way to play with me, that pisses me off and i am not paying you. she said okay okay just settle down.

now i realize what she said is extremely unlikely but still, that sort of thing rattles the nerves. so we did the deed; she wasn't that good but serviceable. fake tits, shaved ****, standard.

afterward she said i better leave first if you don't want your picture taken, there are probably people waiting outside. i was about to get pissed again but i figured just let her leave since i didn't want to be around her anymore anyway.

when i left there wasn't anyone in sight except a couple of drunkards and a few indian dudes being harrassed by the police.

has anyone ever encountered this ***** and have any info about her?[/quote]

[quote=berkonal]
go to those bars if you want to drink beer only.

[/quote]

damn straight!

i would approach them on their way into the bar*.
they have to come out periodically to chat, get a bite to eat at 7-11, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], powder their noses or whatever. that's when you hit them [b]if[/b] you like what you see.

in the bar, you don't get to see enough & it's all dark, murky, foggy and if you've had one too many it's like waddling through amedinejad's dense horse-manure anyways.

* in fact, if you happen to be in that area, in that sea of humanity where all the hkers are running around to make that hk$50 cheaper deal, you will find [i]slow-moving thais & filipinas[/i] coming out of their rat holes/cages. you can get their #s and they come to you later in the evening. i have a few numbers, if anyone's interested.

* In fact, if you happen to be in that area, in that sea of humanity where all the HKers are running around to make that HK$50 cheaper deal, you will find [i]slow-moving Thais & Filipinas[/i] coming out of their rat holes/cages. You can get their #s and they come to you later in the evening. I have a few numbers, if anyone's interested.[/QUOTE]Yeah getting the phone numbers. That generally works well. But you have to have a good memory as mamasans are generally too carefull about taking phone numbers. Or at least in my cases it all happened as if so.

Learn the phone number get out of the bar. Save to phone. And those girls will be at the price of Neptune girls.

But expect a very low quality service. As they can come to your place after 4-5 a.m. and they will be exhausted.

I have never tried Thais in that area. Some seem too attractive but i don't know about the quality of service or how gfe they are.

For the south americans i never even try to approach them. They ask for high prices and never seem girlfriendly.

For the Viets many people say that perfect looking and sucking skills at bed.

Can some people give advices regarding thoses Viets or thais or even south americans (mostly colombians i guess).

For black people i never had experience and don't want to have. As they come from Africa and i don't want to guess how much they worked in Africa to save money for their road trip. Too dangerous due to STDs.

Hi all,

I am now in HK and will be here till 14th. Anyone want to meetup to go Wanchai, LKF, or anywhere else. always nice to have company then going it yourself. Just PM me.

Thanks

Wynn Macau IPOed today and there was Alan Zeeman with the untouched, untainted, Jewish ex-gangster and his shylocks crooning on TV. Funny how American justice works, Stan Ho the leading light of Macao, is denied a visa to the States because of his unproven, old gangster links.

Watching Zeeman I figured I'd pay a visit to his dump LWF; gosh I haven't been there since before the handover. There's no pussy there ofcourse, so I started on Nathan Road, TST where I've had some luck with J-girls in the past. It was empty, maybe 8pm is not a good time? No PRC tourists either. Only dazed White tourists, some Africans and ofcourse the Indian/Bangla guys handing out flyers.

Walked to the ferry via Ocean Terminal, saw 1 MILF looking Korean chica duck into a shop to avoid me, good eye-contact with a J-girl but she was with her an older woman and she was way too short. In the ferry-pier got good vibes from another J-girl and her guy, wondered if they are thinking mmf, nah, dropped them too.

Long March to LKF, got the usual stares from HK girls who grab your attention and then give you a sour face. This time I told them their pants were empty, and of course most would not understand that and so added "you have no ass". It would have taken a while to register and by the time these girls thought about calling the cops, claiming sexual assualt (and they are capable of this), I was long gone.

One thing to note about HK girls, the more cutsy-wotsy bits of fluff on them, the more venomous the wearer!

Hell, even some of the HK guys are like this, stare at you, grab your attention and then make a face. Wonder if they walk around thinking, oh, his dick is 2" bigger than mine, maybe 3. That guy there, he's 4, asshole!

Anyway, back to the topic, LFK. Same old, same old. 200 white guys for every 1 white girl. Almost no ABC, BBC, CBC chics. Saw a 1 group of gorgeous Indian chics sitting outside on bar-stools, in the heat. They gave me the icy look until, I was right across them and once I past, felt their eyes on my butt, never fails thanks to the 3 years' of heavy squats. Saw 1 group of foreign Chinese chicas, looking so lonely, drinking beer. Wasting their miserable lives in LWF, because it's the hip thing to do. In under 5 minutes I was gone. In the old days, you'd find some young, unemployed, HK chicas hanging out on the street below hoping to catch a glimpse of white guys partying and open to sucking dick for a few hundred. None of that now. Sigh!

Exchanged sms with a wannabe, friend of a friend. Me "what's on offer? " Her "anything you wish I will be able to do" Note: every 2nd Filipna is anally available. Maybe 9 out 10 are. Me "good, $ required? " Her "would be happy for your generosity" Me "1000 if you spend the night. Must see picture" Her " I'm free if you like me" I liked her picture, gave her my Conduit Road address and knwoing Filipinas, I sent her the Chinese version for a taxi.

Took her 2 hours to get here, which is good, I guess. Finished 1 round of everything. I was tempted to try The Retarded's favorite, fisting. Too much work that, me thinks. Now I'm going to bed tired, maybe I'll just cum in her mouth and pass out.

Well, I am determined to book my trip xmas trip in the next week.

The package sites (Expedia, etc) have good combos that are within my price range involving the Cosmo and Cosmopolitan but the very idea of signing in a girl makes me reluctant to book there.

How can they make you sign in a guest anyway? What if I was bringing in a white woman? I bet they wouldn't try that then.

The Grand Stanford was more upscale and I didn't have to sign in my girls BUT when I checked in I did see a WG at the counter with a guy and something was going on, with the girl saying "Oh, okay I'll sign." but that was much, much earlier in the evening, near dinnertime.

Anyway, I got a rate for the Charterhouse of about $1600US for 20 nights in a deluxe room on a non-smoking floor.

That sounds decent, the location looks like exactly where I want to be. I know that if I stay near Causeway Bay I can find cheap eats during my stay (a few good Indonesian places in that area).

From the map it looks like I will be close enough to Wan Chai to enjoy it but not so close that the girls will leave on me in the middle of the night.

The hotel didn't answer my question about an in-room safe. They have those as standard I hope?

And in the rate quote they said that cleaning/linen service was only every other day. What's that about? I asked again and they confirmed that w/o explanation.

So, the big question is can I survive 20 days in Hong Kong? I figure my expenses including the "habit" will be somewhere around $200US or $300US a day.

What are my chances of getting a freebie? I'm a nice, clean, but 50 pounds overweight middle aged non-smoking white guy.

I guess we've heard the rumors. Anyone know for sure, will it OR has it reopened? Heading to HK next weekend so hopeful it's back in biz. Fingers crossed.

[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]
Long march to LKF, got the usual stares from HK girls who grab your attention and then give you a sour face. This time I told them their pants were empty, and ofcourse most would not understand that and so added "you have no ass". It would have taken a while to register and by the time these bitches thought about calling the cops, claiming sexual assualt (and they are capable of this), I was long gone.
One thing to note about HK girls, the more cutsy-wotsy bits of fluff on them, the more venomous the wearer!
Hell, even some of the HK guys are like this, stare at you, grab your attention and then make a face. Wonder if they walk around thinking, oh, his dick is 2" bigger than mine, maybe 3. That guy there, he's 4, asshole!
[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you have issues against Hong Kong people. Rather unfortunate you're in HK.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]
What are my chances of getting a freebie? I'm a nice, clean, but 50 pounds overweight middle aged non-smoking white guy.[/QUOTE]

Pretty good if you don't mind a middle aged overweight Chinese woman:)

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]
Anyway, I got a rate for the Charterhouse of about $1600US for 20 nights in a deluxe room on a non-smoking floor.
That sounds decent, the location looks like exactly where I want to be. I know that if I stay near Causeway Bay I can find cheap eats during my stay (a few good Indonesian places in that area).
From the map it looks like I will be close enough to Wan Chai to enjoy it but not so close that the girls will leave on me in the middle of the night.
The hotel didn't answer my question about an in-room safe. They have those as standard I hope?
And in the rate quote they said that cleaning/linen service was only every other day. What's that about? I asked again and they confirmed that w/o explanation.
So, the big question is can I survive 20 days in Hong Kong? I figure my expenses including the "habit" will be somewhere around $200US or $300US a day.
What are my chances of getting a freebie? I'm a nice, clean, but 50 pounds overweight middle aged non-smoking white guy.[/QUOTE]

You have made a good choice and your rate for 20 days is not bad - I am there in November for 14 nights paying about HK$700 per night that includes taxes and breakfast. There is a safe in all the rooms. Changing bed linen every 2 days is not a problem - slipping the maid a few dollars if you are that fussy and she will change them daily. I had to get the maid one day to strip the lot after my "friend" took her periods and made a hell of a mess - blood everywhere. The maid never even batted an eyelid. Money talks here.
The location is excellent - come out the hotel, turn right and straight down the road to Times Square in under 5 mins. You pass through a fish market on the way - fascinating! There is a massage joint right across the road from the hotel in a basement and Jennifer will come over to your room and release tensions for about HK$350 - I met her one morning at 1.30am when I was going back to the hotel for more money and she was still up for it!
Leaving the hotel, turn left and 10 mins walk you are in the middle of Wan Chai. Its only 5 mins by taxi - about HK$20.
I have to be honest however - you will have a problem living on only $200/300US including the "habit" each day. Drink is expensive in the bars and you will need to chat with the girls (including buying them a drink) to make sure your choice is right for the night. I would stick to Neptunes/Traffic/Galaxy/Laguna/Amazonia/Fenwicks (if open) where you will certainly be approached without fail. Make your choice. If you are looking for freebies. Laguna on a Sunday is your best bet but I would pay the going rate the first few days and if you find someone you like, make a deal with her for the rest, or part of, your stay. I did this a year ago - had a girl for 2 weeks with me at the Cosmopolitan and got away with about $HK 3000 for the whole time - plus meals etc. The down side of this - where is the "variety" and the "chase"!
If you are looking for LT and don't want them leaving in the middle of the night, then don't pay until the morning. Its as simple as that. HK$1000 should get you LT.
Being overweight does not matter - as long as your wallet matches your weight, you will be fine.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]You have made a good choice and your rate for 20 days is not bad - I am there in November for 14 nights paying about HK$700 per night that includes taxes and breakfast. There is a safe in all the rooms. Changing bed linen every 2 days is not a problem - slipping the maid a few dollars if you are that fussy and she will change them daily. I had to get the maid one day to strip the lot after my "friend" took her periods and made a hell of a mess - blood everywhere. The maid never even batted an eyelid. Money talks here.
The location is excellent - come out the hotel, turn right and straight down the road to Times Square in under 5 mins. You pass through a fish market on the way - fascinating! There is a massage joint right across the road from the hotel in a basement and Jennifer will come over to your room and release tensions for about HK$350 - I met her one morning at 1.30am when I was going back to the hotel for more money and she was still up for it!
Leaving the hotel, turn left and 10 mins walk you are in the middle of Wan Chai. Its only 5 mins by taxi - about HK$20.
I have to be honest however - you will have a problem living on only $200/300US including the "habit" each day. Drink is expensive in the bars and you will need to chat with the girls (including buying them a drink) to make sure your choice is right for the night. I would stick to Neptunes/Traffic/Galaxy/Laguna/Amazonia/Fenwicks (if open) where you will certainly be approached without fail. Make your choice. If you are looking for freebies. Laguna on a Sunday is your best bet but I would pay the going rate the first few days and if you find someone you like, make a deal with her for the rest, or part of, your stay. I did this a year ago - had a girl for 2 weeks with me at the Cosmopolitan and got away with about $HK 3000 for the whole time - plus meals etc. The down side of this - where is the "variety" and the "chase"!
If you are looking for LT and don't want them leaving in the middle of the night, then don't pay until the morning. Its as simple as that. HK$1000 should get you LT.
Being overweight does not matter - as long as your wallet matches your weight, you will be fine.[/QUOTE]

I basically agree with most of what's said here. I don't, however, think you'll get LT for 1000 unless you limit your choices a bit. I would expect 1500 to 2000. That said, ST is often a better choice in HK (I think), since some of the girls will agree to LT but then leave or leave very early in the morning (you'll hear "I'm hungry" a lot). But it's not a rule - YMMV.

Anyway, my experience has always been 1000 to 1500 ST, 1500 to 2000 LT, and I've heard others say similar. I realize some get it cheaper. They could be better negotiators (I'm not a good one), and likely many are limiting their choices more than I do (I tend to try to focus on what I think would be the most expensive rather than least).

About the safe, Charterhouse rooms have them, but they are too small for laptops.

-B-

Thewayoflaotzu, I quote Bonzo but am replying to your post on costs

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]I basically agree with most of what's said here. I don't, however, think you'll get LT for 1000 unless you limit your choices a bit. ...

Anyway, my experience has always been 1000 to 1500 ST, 1500 to 2000 LT, and I've heard others say similar. I realize some get it cheaper. They could be better negotiators (I'm not a good one), and likely many are limiting their choices more than ...
-B-[/QUOTE]

Personally I think $1000LT is the norm. It could be that Bonzo always goes for the cream and I did meet a few providers who wanted more but don't pay 2000 or even 1500 for LT.
The rare girl who can command such a fee is not often interested in LT and will try to leave early and still get the dough.
For the average and even good Thai or Phil provider I either don't even talk price or offer $1000 saying that is what I always pay and leave in no doubt you mean it (which I do), I think my last trip 2 months ago I did not get any that wanted to insist on more.

You also have to balance out the high price $1000 (admittedly LT) with the alternatives. $200 SW in Jordon, $400 YS or $350-500 141.

That is probably the secret to keeping within your budget, don't always go for the high price ($1000 plus lady drinks) option. Have a bit of the cheaper variety as well.
I think if u follow this $US200-300 is enough assuming you weren't including accommodation in the figure.

BJK

[QUOTE=BJK]Thewayoflaotzu, I quote Bonzo but am replying to your post on costs
Personally I think $1000LT is the norm. It could be that Bonzo always goes for the cream and I did meet a few providers who wanted more but don't pay 2000 or even 1500 for LT.
For the average and even good Thai or Phil provider I either don't even talk price or offer $1000 saying that is what I always pay and leave in no doubt you mean it (which I do), I think my last trip 2 months ago I did not get any that wanted to insist on more.
BJK[/QUOTE]

I agree with BJK and his approach - I offer HK$1000 making it obvious that is my limit and 99% of the time it is acceptable. A lot depends on the time as well - later in the night and it is easier. Another "ploy" is to watch what is going on. There are plenty girls sitting round the bars who never seem to be approached by punters - and there are some good looking ones there if you keep your eyes open. Many are actually there on their own with few friends. Be nice to them, treat them with respect, buy them a drink and often you win a watch. An absolute stunner in Fenwicks one night came back with me and in the morning told me she never went out for less than $2000 and when I asked why she came with me - she said because I was nice to her!
I have to be honest and say that paying HK$1000 - 1500 for ST is far too much but if Bonzo 1 feels he has to, then fair enough. Each to his own.
I just hope this does not become the norm!

[QUOTE=Bobby Cat]I guess we've heard the rumors. Anyone know for sure, will it OR has it reopened? Heading to HK next weekend so hopeful it's back in biz. Fingers crossed.[/QUOTE]

Not open as of tonight.

[QUOTE=Globe Spinner]Pretty good if you don't mind a middle aged overweight Chinese woman:)[/QUOTE]

Well, I'm nice, clean and almost 100 pounds overweight, and I've got three freebies trolling right now. They are 21, 24 and 33 - flat tummies, shaved pubes, and, well ... you go from there. Did I mention that I am old .. 40+?

All I can say is one word ... flexibility! Unbelievable to screw somebody half your age! Now where was that mammary ... um .. memory again?

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Anyway, my experience has always been 1000 to 1500 ST, 1500 to 2000 LT, and I've heard others say similar. I realize some get it cheaper. They could be better negotiators (I'm not a good one), and likely many are limiting their choices more than I do (I tend to try to focus on what I think would be the most expensive rather than least).
[/QUOTE]

Just a different experience I guess. I've not done $1,500 ST (nor $1,000) and neither has anybody I know. And it's not negotiating .. I think it is just expression of choice. I am NOT going to do somebody ST for that amount. That's like being a curb crawler in the States it seems ...

Thanks for the information everyone, esp. Jack The Lad, very helpful indeed.

I didn't bargain during my 3 visits to Neptune's and I did pick "normal" looking but pretty girls.

I quickly learned a few things: the friendly thing will work wonders.

As the girls have to trust you to leave w/o first getting paid (I didn't pay anyone until the next morning), they have to feel safe with you so being friendly will help here. And I was drinking water which may have made the girls feel more comfortable since most of the guys I saw there were a bit drunk already.

I didn't haggle over price. I assumed I would have to pay $1500 LT and I did. My first girl, I bought her a drink and her friend a drink and then asked and the price was said and we were off; the deal was sealed in under 10 minutes once I approached her. And she was not eager to leave the next morning and she's the one that came back with me for the final two days.

BUT it was well after 12:30 on a crowded Saturday night.

On the Sunday, I got there early, had a lot of rejections (which turned out to be because it was too early and girls didn't want to commit to LT so early AND there had been some kind of bust in there that morning and the girls were nervous). And I rejected the beautiful Cambodian who approached me because she asked for $2K LT and I didn't feel like I was up to it.

I was so dejected and it was now getting near midnight and I turned and saw this 24-year-old, 90 pound normal looking Filippino girl in glasses and I was smitten; I'm sure that my face registered my utter delight at finding such a little cutie in there. We chatted, $1500 LT was mentioned once, and we were gone in less than 10 minutes.

I think I'm making this trip not so much to find her again but to find many versions of her over the course of 20 days. I feel like Humbert Humbert looking for his version of Lo (though, of course, this girl was well past the legal age).

My friend took me to see the Indonesian women on their day off on that Sunday morning in Victoria Park (see picture) but I was trapped with friends that Sunday night so I am definitely looking forward to going to Laguna on Sunday afternoon to perhaps find a freebie or something special.

So I think I'll be booking the Charterhouse this week. Good news on the safe. Will my laptop be safe in the room?

Thanks again.

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[QUOTE=Basah]Well, I'm nice, clean and almost 100 pounds overweight, and I've got three freebies trolling right now. They are 21, 24 and 33 - flat tummies, shaved pubes, and, well ... you go from there. Did I mention that I am old .. 40+?

All I can say is one word ... flexibility! Unbelievable to screw somebody half your age! Now where was that mammary ... um .. memory again?[/QUOTE]

You are my hero! I stand corrected.

For my next trip to Asia, I will be flying into HKG and staying in Tsim Sha Tsui for 5 nights before flying off to BKK, Pattaya and then back to Macau. No problems there.

Upon my return to HKG I planned on staying in Wan Chai at the Metropark for 6 days. Again no problem.

Now I see I am entitled to a free night at the Marriott (which will expire very shortly). Great, So I thought I would book the Renaissance Harbor View for one night and use up my voucher, stay close to the Wan Chai action and have a ball. But NO! Marriott says the voucher is only good at class 3 hotels and the Renaissance is class 4. Therefore I can only book free at the Courtyard Hong Kong way out at 167 Connaught Road West.

Question: is this too far away to be much good for picking up babes in the Wan Chai Bars or ordering a 141 girl? Should I just forget it and stay the 6 nights at the Metropark as originally planned? What do you guys think?

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]For my next trip to Asia, I will be flying into HKG and staying in Tsim Sha Tsui for 5 nights before flying off to BKK, Pattaya and then back to Macau. No problems there.

Upon my return to HKG I planned on staying in Wan Chai at the Metropark for 6 days. Again no problem.

Now I see I am entitled to a free night at the Marriott (which will expire very shortly). Great, So I thought I would book the Renaissance Harbor View for one night and use up my voucher, stay close to the Wan Chai action and have a ball. But NO! Marriott says the voucher is only good at class 3 hotels and the Renaissance is class 4. Therefore I can only book free at the Courtyard Hong Kong way out at 167 Connaught Road West.

Question: is this too far away to be much good for picking up babes in the Wan Chai Bars or ordering a 141 girl? Should I just forget it and stay the 6 nights at the Metropark as originally planned? What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Marriott Courtyard is a little out of the way , but is only a 7 or 8 minute taxi ride to Wanchai - the hotel is gf , slight downside is it is sometimes difficult to get taxis , particularly if it is raining - otherwise a nice new hotel.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]Thanks for the information everyone, esp. Jack The Lad, very helpful indeed.
So I think I'll be booking the Charterhouse this week. Good news on the safe. Will my laptop be safe in the room?
][/QUOTE]

Good to see you enjoyed yourself and I am sure you could have got your LT for HK$1000
I leave my lap top out all the time and it has never disappeared yet!
It will be safe - but why not lock it in your case when you go out just to be sure.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]
I have to be honest and say that paying HK$1000 - 1500 for ST is far too much but if Bonzo 1 feels he has to, then fair enough. Each to his own.
I just hope this does not become the norm![/QUOTE]


I'm certainly no expert in the HK market, nor am I a good negotiator - and right, I usually go for the cream of the crop and with multiple pops. So I don't at all doubt that 1000 can be had for LT, and certainly for ST.

Thanks for the tips, which should help me next time too.

Hi,

Here is a report from the 141 girls.

Sunday around lunch and I go to Fuji building, elevator to top floor and walk down.
Maybe to early but there is not many girls there so I continue to Hop Yee building instead and hope for better luck :)

Here I find a nice girl on the 11th floor:
Name: Not sure
Age: around 30
Face: So so
Body: Thin
Boobs: big, probably not real.
Pussy: shaven.
Damage 500 HKD

She gives a good 25 min massage and we continue with good time and after 20 min I load my sead when taken here from behind.

Always goes to 141 girls when I am in Hong Kong, can sometimes be hard to find a nice girl and u maybe have to walk around a little but for sure it is worth a visit.

Some info:

Find the different places on the 141 homepage, there is different locations all over town. Personaly I like Fuji or Hop Yee building, both at Lockhart road.

Take the elevator up to the top floor and walk down until you find a girl you like.

happy hunting

Considering giving this a go when next I am in Hong Kong. Have read the comments about the pics on the site being "fixed up" to to maximize beauty. I still want to have a crack (if you'll pardon the pun).

A few questions, some help and advice please:

Most girls have a price in their profile and say Neg for o/night. What sort of extra cost?

When calling what usually appears to be HK mobile phone numbers? Do you get to talk to the girl or?

When making an appt with girl for Hotel Reservation, will she come up to your room or do you need to meet her somewhere? On her own or with someone else?

Any general comment about "typical" standard of service, shower, massage, BBBJ, FS, extras, other? Ie. Is it as "hit or miss" as a girl I might catch at Neptunes or better trained or? Any chance for GF experience? A chat, a few drinks, bite to eat etc or do they want to do a runner asap?

If I am well satisfied and want a double header the following night, is that a little more negotiable?

Many thanks!

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]I'm certainly no expert in the HK market, nor am I a good negotiator - and right, I usually go for the cream of the crop and with multiple pops. So I don't at all doubt that 1000 can be had for LT, and certainly for ST.

Thanks for the tips, which should help me next time too.[/QUOTE]
1000 LT is no problem at all if you don't have to have the particular girl who asks for more. And if you need to, 2000 is no problem to spend for ST either.

"The Massage Place" on Portland Street, Mongkok was mentioned on here last week, and since my work took me up that way I thought I'd give it a try. I went at about 8pm on a weekday.

First of all, the previous reviewer gave the impression that it was close to 37D (i.e. practically in Yaumatei), but it's not. It's almost as far up as Langham Place. If you're going there, use Mongkok MTR, not Yaumatei. Look for the KFC on the corner; it's right there.

There was indeed a flunky waiting outside to guide me in.

Complaint number one: the changing-area coolies were hopeless. They failed to hand me a towel while I was disrobing, leaving me bollock-naked and exposing my modesty. Then after my shower (excellent showers, by the way) there was nobody in attendance to swap my towel for shorts and a robe. After the service, when I arrived for my exit-shower, again there was nobody to hand out the towels, I just fetched my own off a pile and abandoned my slightly stained shorts to the floor. And then the final indignity, when I was towelling myself off, the changing-room coolie materialised and just stood and watched, and watched, and watched..... it was creepy and awkward and in the end I was obliged to tell him to fuck off. I still dropped $20 in the tip box as insurance against future locker-thefts, but it was with great reluctance.

Now, the main event.

I was promised $829 for a "very young girl", full-service first, and then an hour's massage. Not cheap, but not too bad, either.

The massage room was clean, recently renovated, and the towels on the massage bed were fragrant. No complaints there.

The "very young girl" was ancient. I'd expect "young" to mean "younger than I am", and "very young" to mean "at least ten years younger than I am". (And, trust me, it's been a long time since "ten years younger than me" would lead us into the area of Things We Do Not Talk About On This Board.)

Nope, this girl was old. Older than me. If you wanted to know her socially, you'd take her out on a carbon date. And she had rock-hard false boobs. And, the crowning insult, a pussy like a bucket. I don't know whether she used to be someone's fisting slave, or if she's just had an awful lot of children (sideways), but - oh my droogies! - I am, by any survey you care to read, absolutely average in length and girth, and I DID NOT TOUCH THE SIDES. I was pounding away in the missionary position and if she hadn't been there at all, it wouldn't have felt any different! Old boxers who can't fight any more retire gracefully. Sometimes I wish old WGs had the same dignity.

So anyway, after tying a plank lengthwise across my back so I didn't accidentally fall in, I managed to finish the deed in the non-friction section, and lapsed into a relieved stupor. The WG went away (presumably to her second job, as a car park) and was replaced by a beefy lady whose role was professional massage. And at that point the evening improved considerably. The massage was terrific. By the time the phone rang, I was being scalp-massaged and was without doubt the most relaxed person anywhere in Kowloon.

Would I return? Unlikely. Maybe just for the vanilla massage (at $3xx), immediately following a session at 37D. But for the full service? No.

[QUOTE=Idler31]"The Massage Place" on Portland Street, Mongkok was mentioned on here last week, and since my work took me up that way I thought I'd give it a try. I went at about 8pm on a weekday.

First of all, the previous reviewer gave the impression that it was close to 37D (i.e. practically in Yaumatei), but it's not. It's almost as far up as Langham Place. If you're going there, use Mongkok MTR, not Yaumatei. Look for the KFC on the corner; it's right there.

There was indeed a flunky waiting outside to guide me in.

Complaint number one: the changing-area coolies were hopeless. They failed to hand me a towel while I was disrobing, leaving me bollock-naked and exposing my modesty. Then after my shower (excellent showers, by the way) there was nobody in attendance to swap my towel for shorts and a robe. After the service, when I arrived for my exit-shower, again there was nobody to hand out the towels, I just fetched my own off a pile and abandoned my slightly stained shorts to the floor. And then the final indignity, when I was towelling myself off, the changing-room coolie materialised and just stood and watched, and watched, and watched..... it was creepy and awkward and in the end I was obliged to tell him to fuck off. I still dropped $20 in the tip box as insurance against future locker-thefts, but it was with great reluctance.

Now, the main event.

I was promised $829 for a "very young girl", full-service first, and then an hour's massage. Not cheap, but not too bad, either.

The massage room was clean, recently renovated, and the towels on the massage bed were fragrant. No complaints there.

The "very young girl" was ancient. I'd expect "young" to mean "younger than I am", and "very young" to mean "at least ten years younger than I am". (And, trust me, it's been a long time since "ten years younger than me" would lead us into the area of Things We Do Not Talk About On This Board.)

Nope, this girl was old. Older than me. If you wanted to know her socially, you'd take her out on a carbon date. And she had rock-hard false boobs. And, the crowning insult, a pussy like a bucket. I don't know whether she used to be someone's fisting slave, or if she's just had an awful lot of children (sideways), but - oh my droogies! - I am, by any survey you care to read, absolutely average in length and girth, and I DID NOT TOUCH THE SIDES. I was pounding away in the missionary position and if she hadn't been there at all, it wouldn't have felt any different! Old boxers who can't fight any more retire gracefully. Sometimes I wish old WGs had the same dignity.

So anyway, after tying a plank lengthwise across my back so I didn't accidentally fall in, I managed to finish the deed in the non-friction section, and lapsed into a relieved stupor. The WG went away (presumably to her second job, as a car park) and was replaced by a beefy lady whose role was professional massage. And at that point the evening improved considerably. The massage was terrific. By the time the phone rang, I was being scalp-massaged and was without doubt the most relaxed person anywhere in Kowloon.

Would I return? Unlikely. Maybe just for the vanilla massage (at $3xx), immediately following a session at 37D. But for the full service? No.[/QUOTE]Wow that sound like a real s**t experiance. I never had a bad experiance. At this place. I usually go after midnight I wonder if the shift changes this time.? But thanks for the update I may try someother place today.

[QUOTE=Oliver 0205]Just heard that the opening will be on 12. October. As it are new owners they cant use the name "Fenwicks" anymore. The new name will be "Escape".[/QUOTE]Is it open?

A review?

Dear All,

I am delighted to see that my post has generated a flurry of posts about what are sensible prices in HK. My apologies if, in apparently paying over the odds, I have inadvertently contributed to inflation; I will know better next time.

I did spend quite a bit of time reading the forum before I travelled, but it was surprisingly hard to get an idea of what should be the standard. Lots of prices quoted refer to 141 which I guess is a different beast, and one or two posts (even in the recent flurry) suggest that while what I paid was high, it was not outlandishly so. Perhaps this was also influenced by the time of night (fairly early) -- I had an early flight the next day so did not want to wait around 'til the WGs got desperate!

Cheers,

A

I’ve just returned from a fantastic 3 week trip to the Philippines which was book-ended with a couple of nights in Hong Kong either side and hence my initial post here …

I stayed at the Wharney Guang Dong Hotel on the way out and at the Empire on the way back. Whilst both these hotels were OK (with the Empire probably being the better of the two) and had the advantage of being close to the Wan Chai action both suffered from being so close to the action as to make it just too tempting for the girls to go back out for some repeat action despite the deal that you may have struck beforehand. Also neither were that security conscious and the girls could pretty much come and go as they pleased.

[u]37 Dundas[/u]

As soon as I arrived in HKG, for my first foray out I decided to visit 37D which I found easily enough through the guidance of the many posts here.

Now I’m not sure whether there are two establishments at this place or just the one (perhaps one of the local experts could clarify) however there is one entrance with a staircase directly next to the shop and another flashier sign-posted entrance a little further along and this was the entrance that I took and then took the lift up to the 2nd floor.

The deal here seemed to be $465 all-in and as it was my first visit I wasn’t sure what to expect. There was no line-up as such, I was just offered a drink and then escorted into a small room to wait for the girl(s) to arrive. The girl who arrived wasn’t the best of specimens but was just about OK and as I wasn’t sure whether I’d indeed get a choice and the body language was OK I agreed and off we went.

Unfortunately things started going pear shaped from there on in and in the event it turned out to be a fairly poor session as the SP evidently had boyfriend troubles and it was fairly comical as first I had to keep quiet in the room whilst someone was calling out her name, then we had to move rooms then the session was interrupted while she took frantic phone calls etc. etc. She did have the good grace to apologise but for the interruptions but the mood was completely destroyed by then.

[b]Verdict:[/b] Reasonably set-up but the particular SP was just far too to pre-occupied for the session to rate as anything other than mediocre.

[u]Neptune II[/u]

After the afternoon’s somewhat unsatisfactory encounter in the evening I decided to do the circuit of the Wan Chai discos carefully avoiding the entreaties of the door girls of the more brazen rip-off clubs.

I checked out : New Makati, Laguna, Joe Banana, etc… before finally deciding to check out Neptune II which was easily the best of the bunch. That said, it was slightly annoying that I got charged a door fee on my first visit which I subsequently found out was negotiable. By way of clarification I should mention that I’m black guy and when the “door” men pointed out the entry fees it seemed that I’d have to pay $500 before they decided that I’d qualify for the Forces rate of $150 which apparently entitles you to one free drink but is still daylight robbery. However, knowing no better I paid up.

On my next visit I happened to enter the club closely after a group of white guys and I pretended to be part of that group and surprise surprise the entry fee was waived in this case! On my final visit on my return to Hong Kong I just brazened it out and said that I was a regular visitor to the club and so again got away with no entry fee. Thus my strong recommendation is not to have any truck with this blatant discrimination and just argue the toss.

Anyway, after surveying the scene and getting a few rejections I eventually struck a deal with a Thai chick and we agreed $1000 for a short-time encounter which we agreed would be 3 hours. When we got to my room she demanded the fee upfront but I’m too wise for that game and so after a brief discussion and mindfully that I didn’t want to destroy the mood altogether we settled on 50% up-front. There followed an entertaining hour but when we were done she began the subtle attempt to try and wheedle out of her agreed 3 hours pleading that it was her last night in HKG and wanting to go back out and make a bit more cash and so eventually not wanting the hassle I decided to accede and paid her the balance of the cash but no tip.

[b]Verdict[/b] Good club, good band, good music, nice mix of girls but definitely a cattle market

[i]There followed a shag fest in the Philippines[/i] but keen to keep up my stats of at least one “encounter” on every day of my trip on my return to HKG I decided to have another go to see if I could get better service at 37D and this time tried the first staircase. However, when I got to the club entrance at about 18:30 the mama-san told me that they were full and that I should maybe come back later.

[u]K-Pressure[/u]

Given the throbbing in my trousers I wasn’t keen to wait and so I decided that I'd go and see if I could find the infamous K-Pressure which I eventually found on the corner of Woosung Street and Jordan Rd, next door to a 7-11 and opposite Yoshinoya.

The deal here is $390 for the session and $110 for the short-time hotel next door.

I much preferred this place to 37 Dundas and by now of course I had a much better idea as to what to expect. I rejected the first girl offered as it was immediately evident that we didn’t get on and accepted the second girl - Su Zen (no doubt the wrong spelling but that’s what it sounded like) - who proved to be an excellent choice and who, with her great enthusiasm, turned what in other circumstances might be a fairly routine production line service into a great session.

The standard service here is a 45 minute session comprising:- Thai style body slide massage, interspersed with some BBBJ, then after towelling down some more BBBJ, anal rimming both enlivened with some neat use of ice followed by sex in a variety of positions.

Re the anal rimming it always struck me as one of the ironies of life that some folk get to kick arse for a living whilst others get to lick it either metaphorically or physically, Speaking for myself I know which side of the fence I prefer but fair play to Su Zen she’s a master of the art!

[b]Verdict:[/b] Definitely the best experience I had in HKG and the club also has the benefit of being a stone’s throw away from an excellent open-air seafood restaurant (Aberdeen Seafood Restaurant) and the food there proved to be a good way of recharging the batteries

[u]Repeat visit to Neptune[/u]

This time round, after initially being given the run around by a couple of fit looking Thai chicks who I wasted a lot of time and drinks on, I eventually hooked up with a Pinay chick at around 3am and this time we struck a deal of HKD $1000 for 5 hours, this was after I’d first rejected the patently ridiculous request for $4000! Fair play to her as she more than honoured our deal and after another morning round, some breakfast and a bout of shopping (for me not her) I waived her off at around mid-day and tipped her an extra $250.

[b]Verdict:[/b] A much better encounter although it was slightly galling having to pay 5 times the price that I’d been paying in Filo not to mention the extortionate cost of drinks but c’est la vie.

Having by now checked out of the Empire and with about 10 hours to kill before my flight home I did what any self respecting monger would do in the circumstances and paid a repeat visit to K-Pressure and rendezvoused again with Su Zen. We both laughed when we saw each other given that it had been barely 24 hours since my last visit. She clearly (and correctly) had me down as an addict! An equally good session was brought to an end by the untimely sound of the telephone calling to tell her that my time was up. On the way out the Mama-san saw me off with parting words of “See you tomorrow” – sadly it will be a little longer than that before I make my repeat visit more’s the pity

I am going to HK in begining of nowember. Staying in Nathan Hotell, Kowlon.

Anyone had any exsperience bringing girls to that hotell?

Any good girl bars/ massaage close to this area exept D 37 and K pressure?

Anyone have experience with to girls at K pressure? Price? Do they do lesbian show?

Any other places where you can hook up with to girls?

Forgot to ask in last post: If you call a hotell reservation girl and ask for LT, what is the normal price. I L see they nomaly ask for 800. 1000.

Asweme thats for 1 our?

[QUOTE=Bobby Cat]Is it open?

A review?[/QUOTE]

Should be open finally on friday 16th.

[QUOTE=Corvette1]I am going to HK in begining of nowember. Staying in Nathan Hotell, Kowlon.

Anyone had any exsperience bringing girls to that hotell?

Any good girl bars/ massaage close to this area exept D 37 and K pressure?

Anyone have experience with to girls at K pressure? Price? Do they do lesbian show?

Any other places where you can hook up with to girls?[/QUOTE]

Every one of your questions has been asked and answered in the past 30 days. Try the search function.

[QUOTE=Dark Vader]

[u]37 Dundas[/u]

Now I’m not sure whether there are two establishments at this place or just the one (perhaps one of the local experts could clarify) however there is one entrance with a staircase directly next to the shop and another flashier sign-posted entrance a little further along and this was the entrance that I took and then took the lift up to the 2nd floor.[/QUOTE]Better to go in ist entrance, you get a line up.

I know little about Hong Kong. Could some more experienced people tell me the best areas to rent an apartment that is near nightlife, restaurants, malls and action in general, not just Pros.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=I Jags]I know little about Hong Kong. Could some more experienced people tell me the best areas to rent an apartment that is near nightlife, restaurants, malls and action in general, not just Pros.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Tin Shui Wai is lovely.

[QUOTE=Oliver 0205]Should be open finally on friday 16th.[/QUOTE]Tonite?

Any news?

A review?

[QUOTE=Bobby Cat]Tonite?

Any news?

A review?[/QUOTE]Reopening of Fenwicks:
All rumours. It was not open. Next time I'll go there after someone has confirmet that it [b]is[/b] open. But Neptune II is rocking. Lots of talent and not too many punters.

[QUOTE=I Jags]I know little about Hong Kong. Could some more experienced people tell me the best areas to rent an apartment that is near nightlife, restaurants, malls and action in general, not just Pros.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Could I also suggest Fanling or Tung Chung?

Imagine my surprise yesterday when the flight and hotel I wanted was suddenly $400 less on expedia than ever before. Of course, my most recent masssive payment on my card had not posted, so I missed the boat as the price went back up by $500 this morning.

So I gave up on that and booked The Charterhouse. On the whole, the reviews are good for the place with the only negative always being the "rooms are small" or something similar. I watched a video on the hotel's website and it looks better than I expected.

My fingers are crossed. I know that the location is good for food and shopping.

I sincerely hope that the Charterhouse is not too close to the action as to be tempting for the LT women to leave in the middle of the night.

This fat, 42-year-old white guy will be back in Hong Kong beginning on 17 December.

The adventure continues!

Bouncers at Galaxy told me that Escape will open on the 27th of October (Tuesday).

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Reopening of Fenwicks:
All rumours. It was not open. Next time I'll go there after someone has confirmet that it [b]is[/b] open. But Neptune II is rocking. Lots of talent and not too many punters.[/QUOTE]

I was in Yuen Long at night and saw a group of girls on the streets looking for customers. One was really gorgeous. I heard that negotiating prices is illegal and female police officers could be working undercover. What is the best way to approach?

Referring to a couple posts down, have a question about 37D.

I've been to it multiple times and have written about it (check previous).

However I'm confused about the first and second floor. the 1st Floor is reached by the elevator, no? The 2nd floor is technically the "3rd floor". Please clear it up for me, thanks.

Anyone been to Makati recently? Coming to HK soon and went there earlier in the year and the talent was fantastic. Had a great time with a sexy, sporty and very nasty Indo. Hope she is dancing again when I visit!

[QUOTE=Temujin87]Referring to a couple posts down, have a question about 37D.

I've been to it multiple times and have written about it (check previous).

However I'm confused about the first and second floor. the 1st Floor is reached by the elevator, no? The 2nd floor is technically the "3rd floor". Please clear it up for me, thanks.[/QUOTE]If you are at street level, that is "0". Go in the door and up one flight of stairs and you are on the 1st floor (2nd floor in the USA). That is where most of the 37D reports come from. On up one more flight to the 2nd floor (3rd in USA), and you are at the other establishment (I haven't sampled them). Up one more flight of stairs and you are at the hotel where the girls from 1st floor (and maybe 2nd) take the customers. Hope this clears up things.

[QUOTE=Shazzam]Anyone been to Makati recently?[/QUOTE]Sunday's in Makati are a lot of fun. I find that the rest of the week, sadly, the place is pretty dead, save for the six or so Filippina hookers that are on call there. Shame that it can't pull in the weeknight crowd like Laguna as it is a better bar, IMO.

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]Bouncers at Galaxy told me that Escape will open on the 27th of October (Tuesday).[/QUOTE]Just after the navy has been and gone.

Word has it that we will be graced with 8,000 this coming weekend.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]Just after the navy has been and gone.

Word has it that we will be graced with 8,000 this coming weekend.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Crap. Not exactly the birthday present I was looking for.

How did you find out when the Navy was due in town?

I will be in Hong Kong from 12/16 to 01/07 or so and just dread having to deal with that.

Is it impossible for anyone else to score while the fleet is in town?

This civilian could probably outspend a sailor but I'm certainly a big fat load compared to America's finest fighting forces, LOL.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]How did you find out when the Navy was due in town? [/QUOTE]

Talking to bar managers. Also, the girlie bars are getting ready for them.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I will be in Hong Kong from 12/16 to 01/07 or so and just dread having to deal with that.[/QUOTE]

The fleet used to come here around Xmas time, but hasn't done so for a few years. They do however try to be here for the Thanksgiving weekend.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]Is it impossible for anyone else to score while the fleet is in town?

This civilian could probably outspend a sailor but I'm certainly a big fat load compared to America's finest fighting forces, LOL.[/QUOTE]

No, it is not at all impossible. There is still lots of talent around for everyone.

However, Wanchai starts to resemble a bit of a zoo, with far too many people in the area. Also, the young sailors are out letting off a lot of steam, and they are way too loud for my liking. They are just enjoying themselves, but I prefer a quiet drink rather than sitting in the middle of a drunken pep rally.

Yes, us older guys can indeed outspend the sailors. And many girls do keep their eyes firmly focussed on the almighty dollar.

A couple of words of caution - don't for a second believe that old line - which a lot of our members fool themselves into believing - that the bar girls don't like the navy. In fact most of the bar girls LOVE it when the navy is here. They enjoy the company of guys their own age, who generally are in great physical shape. Not at all surprising.

And most of the bars give the navy special cut rate deals. They will charge the sailors HK$10 for a beer, and let them take the girls out for as little as HK$1,000 for 15 mins. Oh ... and when us older guys go to the same bar on the same day, the very same mamasan will charge us HK$50 for the same beer and charge us HK$1,300 to HK$3,000 to take the same girl out. The mamas deny it, but it is what actually happens.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=I Jags]I know little about Hong Kong. Could some more experienced people tell me the best areas to rent an apartment that is near nightlife, restaurants, malls and action in general, not just Pros.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Hung Hom and Wampoa

Lots of resturants, sores and *****s

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]This civilian could probably outspend a sailor but I'm certainly a big fat load compared to America's finest fighting forces, LOL.[/QUOTE]Ha, this is one sailor that says bring it on civi. Don't get mad because the ladies prefer us to u and I'm an older gentleman myself.

[QUOTE=Nhill76]Ha, this is one sailor that says bring it on civi. Don't get mad because the ladies prefer us to u and I'm an older gentleman myself.[/QUOTE]

*yawn*

Good for you.

Have a nice life.

*yawn*

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Kobe Beef]Hung Hom and Wampoa

Lots of resturants, sores and *****s[/QUOTE]

KB?? WTF??

"Lots of ... sores ..."

ROTFLMAO.

Funniest typo I have seen in years.

Cheers.

From what I heard from many girls, the Navy doesn't give them a lot of business. They just drink a lot and make noise. Which doesn't mean that the girls don't like their company. But those girls who are looking to make money, know where to look.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]Talking to bar managers. Also, the girlie bars are getting ready for them.



The fleet used to come here around Xmas time, but hasn't done so for a few years. They do however try to be here for the Thanksgiving weekend.



No, it is not at all impossible. There is still lots of talent around for everyone.

However, Wanchai starts to resemble a bit of a zoo, with far too many people in the area. Also, the young sailors are out letting off a lot of steam, and they are way too loud for my liking. They are just enjoying themselves, but I prefer a quiet drink rather than sitting in the middle of a drunken pep rally.

Yes, us older guys can indeed outspend the sailors. And many girls do keep their eyes firmly focussed on the almighty dollar.

A couple of words of caution - don't for a second believe that old line - which a lot of our members fool themselves into believing - that the bar girls don't like the navy. In fact most of the bar girls LOVE it when the navy is here. They enjoy the company of guys their own age, who generally are in great physical shape. Not at all surprising.

And most of the bars give the navy special cut rate deals. They will charge the sailors HK$10 for a beer, and let them take the girls out for as little as HK$1,000 for 15 mins. Oh ... and when us older guys go to the same bar on the same day, the very same mamasan will charge us HK$50 for the same beer and charge us HK$1,300 to HK$3,000 to take the same girl out. The mamas deny it, but it is what actually happens.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Leungcha]I was in Yuen Long at night and saw a group of girls on the streets looking for customers. One was really gorgeous. I heard that negotiating prices is illegal and female police officers could be working undercover. What is the best way to approach?[/QUOTE]As far as I'm aware living off of the proceeds is what gets prosecuted.

But where would you take her? Do you speak Chinese? Yuen Long is really the pits dude, a place where residents dump their exotic pets (baby crocs) into the nullah when they get too big. Must admit I haven't been there in ages since I scapled my 2 complimentary Rugby Sevens' tickets for 6k some 5 years ago. Things may have changed.

141 in that area is 200 or so.

Picked up the little ones from Sorrento for a spot of lunch at the Kitchen in W Hotel. Met their mom on her lunch break, she looked damn fine, all that aqua-aerobics must be working. Let me grope her a bit when we hugged. She's ecstatic that the mortgage on the young ones' apts. Is paid off.

To do that I had to close some positions, 7 new highs in 4 weeks is a bit unnerving although, I'm sure that in December we'll be higher. Funny thing about the Hang Seng Index is that despite Capitol's war on Wall Street, despite most major caps on the Hang Seng being PRC state-owned enterprises, despite the supposed shift from the west to the east, Chinese "soft power" (the fcuk is that? ), it still comports to the DOW at 2.2. At the highs 14k DOW = 30k HSI, now 10k DOW = 22k HSI

Went to the apts. In Park Island, some swimming and then to Tuen Mun equestrain club. Some fine pieces in white riding beautiful beasts. Guess once they get older and start drinking beer they get fat and because they are fat they get some ink on their fat bodies and when that doesn't work, they get pierced.

Called my craiglister, an unemployed 33 year old living with her mom. She wanted 1, 000; it's NSA but this is HK so I agreed to 500. Came over, but reluctant to blow me and so I wouldn't do her. Standoff.

Figured I'd kick her out and get Chantik, my Indo NSA. Last time she emptied a Veuve Clique and was uselss to me. Miss 500 claims to be bi, but won't do Indos, Pianys or Thais (my kinda HK girl).

So we went to Wanchai looking for HK freelancers. Is there such a thing in that area? Anyway we ran into 1 who'd only do it in the car, then we met a pair one of whom was supercute, but her guide/mentor looked freaky.

Initially, I though she was a mute, but Miss 500 hinted that she was on meth or some shit. So we left, back to the apt.

Played on her voyueristic tendency to get her to blow me. She wanted to do a video, agreed on pictures without my face.

She blew me good, lots of saliva, some Rose, plenty of hand and when I came, sprayed random (I'm not a marksman). She wasn't impressed with the pictures, she wanted thick ropes of cum. Can't have everything in life!

[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]As far as I'm aware living off of the proceeds is what gets prosecuted.[/QUOTE]LFT,

The offences in very broad terms are:

1. Living off proceeds.

2. Running or operating a vice establishment (thus why the girls can operate legally as 141, ie, one girl one flat, whereas massage places that offer extras get busted).

3. Soliciting in public, either by the girl or by the customer. (This presumably was LC's concern.)

4. Breaching the conditions of stay on the tourist visa, which says that the tourist cannot work while here in HK (thus why the tourist girls get busted).

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I have read and reread the reports on freebies and maids-on-their-days-off on this board and am intrigued.
Like I posted earlier, I have seen Victoria Park on a Sunday afternoon and it is an amazing collection of THOUSANDS of women but I can't imagine meeting a woman in that scene by myself (a fat 42-year-old white guy with glasses).
[/QUOTE]

If you are not too sure about Victoria Park on a Sunday afternoon, I suggest then you try Laguna. Packed in the afternoon with maids on their day off and all looking for fun. Go there and there will be no doubt about what you want, what you are looking for and, in all probability, you will get what you are looking for as well. There are many reports in the past confirming this from punters vising Laguna. The chances of freebies are also high.
There is also a high success rate of meeting someone in Victoria Park, but you might need to put a bit of effort into it.
Fat, 42 year old and wearing glasses? Does not matter one iota. Believe me, without giving too much away, I am living proof of this!

You'll be lost in the crowd of 42yr old fat speccy gits mate! All that matters is your wallet and passport.
On another topic Navy no problem either, the girls like them because they buy lots of drinks and if they take them off it is only for a short time and the girls can get back to the action. Later on in the evening the Navy are either too pissed or have gone back to the ship, then there are more girls than usual for the regulars.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu] Just not sure how to play this via messenger and FB.[/QUOTE]

Play it straight up. Most of the girls take pay for play. To push past that, just ask for what you want. A "Hi, how are you, I'd like to have lunch with you" works 9 out of 10 times (okay ... the 10th time is sleeping with me right now and she is a bit of a *****). With 200,000 domestic helpers here, they kind of know that there are a lot of people out there. They are people, but just ask .. says the guy trying to get two of his 'friend's' roommates to come over and spend the night as well.

Don't be bashful!

hello, just want to tell you guys that when you view 1-4-1 hotel girls (TST) that please discount their looks by 40%. The pretty pictures are a result of heavy makeups and photoshop.

I have tried 5 1-4-1 girls in the last 4 days and each time the look is only 60%. some of them may still be above average looking, but don't expect the same girl as you see in the pictures.

Also, local hong kong girls (costing $1.4K+) are NOT worth it.

Anyone that can direct me to a place called "The Bridge"? Seems to be in the Wan Chai area and good for Sunday morning fishing expeditions.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Also, local hong kong girls (costing $1.4K+) are NOT worth it.[/QUOTE]

Local HK girls are Chinese girls with an attitude, that's all. During the Suzie Wong days, there were no "HK girls" in Hong Kong, only Chinese girls.
Ok, in those days, baby girs were left at the door-step of Churches (who put them up for adoption in the UK) or flung from the housing estates onto the street and the ones that survived were destined to become concubines until the Brits woke-up one day and decided to put an end to it. Chinese then, "HK people" now.

[QUOTE=Pita123]Anyone that can direct me to a place called "The Bridge"? Seems to be in the Wan Chai area and good for Sunday morning fishing expeditions.[/QUOTE] I might be off by few meters, but it is about here:
22°16'41.04"N
114°10'20.94"E

[QUOTE=Henio]I might be off by few meters, but it is about here:
22°16'41.04"N
114°10'20.94"E[/QUOTE]

Try googling it - it comes up as almost a classy joint - its not - but you will get what you are looking for there and its right in the middle of the action. The address is 93 Lockhart Road. Open 24 hours a day.

I only had a daytime stopover so I headed straight to Mong Kok and a know massage venue up a few flights of stairs opposite the computer centre. Had a young chinese girl about 24 for the usual service. SHower, bbbj, and the fs. She was a bit ordinary but fine for the first pop for a couple of weeks. 350HK.

Lunch and then I got them to call in a Thai girl and I specified someone with a bit more energy. Well a really well stacked, firm thirty yr old arrived and it was much better service. Hot, active, and tight. great for 300HK.

Well abit more window shopping, and I tried another AMP around the corner up an ally. Same set up, and requested Thai again. Similar great body, and service only some really decent rimming with the bbbj, onto fs to finish as with the first. 300HK. Flew out relaxed and happy. I love HK!

Well a couple of days of business ex Hk and then I was back for a two night stop this time. I got in late around 10.30pm by the time I'd checked in, and then headed down to Traffic in Wan Chai. I'd heard this had replaced the old Finnegans around the corner. Well just onto my second beer and checking the talent when three young filis came in and set up around the table, which I'd just parked as as a couple had just left. As usual, I play it reserved to scope the talent and don't like pushy girls and they just hung out, said hi and didn't push. (I'm a bit used to the Dubai scene which seems pushier to me.) Well after a little while I said hi the chicky right next to me and started up a conversation. She seemed quite nice so I bought her a drink which she liked as she said I looked a bit grumpy. Well I explained I was tired from a long flight and she said her too, as she'd just come in from Manila that day as well. Her second trip to HK for work. The first time through an agent, and this time as a freelancer. Set the price at 1500HK for LT and headed back to my hotel. I thought this a little steep but she looked young and fit, and was nice enough. I thought she would not go for less so didn't haggle too much, and it turned out that she does not drop fees much and also tells me (later) she has several return customers.

Well she tells me she is 23, but I think she could be even a few years younger (still wearing braces on the teeth!). No matter really, as anyone less than 30 is young enough to be my daughter. Now this is a nice surprise, as in the bar and in the bad light I thought she may have been a bit older, and maybe using a push up bra for the firm tits, and may even be a bit looser under the tight jeans. Well lucky for me this is not the case. This babe has a body to die for, and I've not had anyone this gorgeous on the end of my prick for a very long time. I swear I had to look at her for every second I could as she walked naked to the bathroom over the next two days, and just savour the experience.

So here I am with a total babe hanging out with me for a couple of days. This was a real GFE, including wanting to go shopping and complaining about taking the mtr instead of a taxi! Ok so I prefer a taxi too but at one time it was peak hour so a crushed mtr was still better than a taxi in traffic for an hour.

Now this chicky had the smoothest and sweetest pussy I've seen for long time. One of my favourite things is DATY for a long time with the girl having multiples, until after 30 minutes or so I move onto the long deep thrusts. This seemed to be her preferred situation as well so a very nice time was had numerous times over the couple of days. We usually finished with doggy with her controlling the movement back and forth in time with the squeezing motion. She seemed to genuinely enjoy the whole process. She wasn't too keen on bj's and said she hates cim. Now I usually like both of these to a large degree, but this time I didn't miss it one bit.

1st session was good, and then both crashed out. I woke up with a throbbing tool at 6.30 am and gave her a good rear poke as she tried to keep sleeping. I went down and had some breakfast a bit later while she was still sleeping, and then came back up to the room and she was dressed and ready to go. I said no, I've just had coffee and breakfast and I'm ready for another session. She wasn't too keen. Now in my experience a LT really is about a sleepover with two pops, and she was ready to head off home. So I said Ok, you're a real babe, so let's have another good session, I'll pay you 2000hk instead of 1500, and if it's good again we'll do the same this evening after I've done my business stuff all afternoon. SO that's pretty much what happened. Don't know if I paid above market rate, but I think with a body like hers I got value, and a fun time too.

After a day or so I got to know more about her, professionally and personally. Professionally shes not mad about bj's, as mentioned, but said she does sometimes - more depending on the mood, and usually if she's had a few drinks. She prefers white guys 35-45, and is apprehensive about black guys and indians. I didn't get this as a racist thing, but just unsure and wary, which I think is just her age and innocence. I give you this information as I am happy to pass on her details to any senior members out there who think they would enjoy the experience as I did, and can have a great experience with awareness of what's on the menu. PM me for details.

There we go, a long report for me, but I wanted to give a recommendation. Her name is Fria, and she is working HK mainly to get money for her family. The Manila flood went through her family house, up the the roof she said, and they lost everything, even wrecking the toilet. They have to totally renovate, and are all still living in a shelter. She was so happy to send 2000HK home on the first morning and is a genuine and lovely young lady. I felt very good to be able to help her out and do my bit for disaster relief!

So guys, get out there and eat and poke pussy for the Manila Typhoon victims. It will give you a good feeling!

Pictures (not nude) in the photo section if I can figure the upload.

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Did the Navy come into port this weekend? If not any news of when they will? I am due in hk on 9 Nov so would rather their trip was over before i get there!

Thanks

CT

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory]Did the Navy come into port this weekend? If not any news of when they will? [/QUOTE]
Nope. The port stop has been scheduled now for Thursday 29-Oct until Sunday 01-Nov. Halloween in Wanchai will be a complete zoo. Word is that the George Washington is visiting - that will mean 10,000 in total.

Here's to bow legged women (apologies to Quint).

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory]I am due in hk on 9 Nov so would rather their trip was over before i get there! Thanks. CT[/QUOTE]
CT - it is most unlikely there will be another navy visit here again until Thanksgiving later in November.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Try googling it - it comes up as almost a classy joint - its not - but you will get what you are looking for there and its right in the middle of the action. The address is 93 Lockhart Road. Open 24 hours a day.[/QUOTE]

Just a note ... Bridge is a regular bar from basically around 9am in the morning until about 4 am the next day. From 4:30ish the shades go down, and anybody that is still out and wants to stay out goes to Bridge. On Sunday's, the difference is that it stays 'dark' until about 12, and all the domestic helpers go there when they get out of their curfews at around 7:30.

Anyone stay at The Concard and recommend a place within walking distance?

Any bras or SPAs close by?

Thanks. This would have been helpful information yesterday. I arrived around 2:30PM and it was a pretty boring place. There were two indo girls pretending to be maids but they apparently had been there also at 3AM so I'm doubtful.

Anyway, field report coming soon.

[QUOTE=Desertman]If she's had a few drinks. She prefers white guys 35-45, and is apprehensive about black guys and indians. I didn't get this as a racist thing, but just unsure and wary, which I think is just her age and innocence.

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[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]. The chances of freebies are also high.

There is also a high success rate of meeting someone in Victoria Park, but you might need to put a bit of effort into it.

Fat, 42 year old and wearing glasses? Does not matter one iota. Believe me, without giving too much away, I am living proof of this! [/QUOTE]As my name here implies, Freebies are my speciality. And yes have done the Laguna thing many many times. And New Makati too.

Victoria Park can be good, but I prefer the stairs that have the large circle that lead from one side of Connaught Road to other. Go up the stairs and you are surrounded by girls, smile and most will smile back. Saunter up and down pretending to wait for someone. Ie look at watch, look at phone and one gal will eventually ask " are you waiting for your gf".

You can then say " yes but she said maybe she can't leave her epmloyers today so I'm all alone, and have just arrived in HK". Etcetcetc.

I usually stay in Park Lane and have successfully lured a few young ladies back there especially as many haven't seen inside a hotel like that and are happy to drink coke and watch tv. And then get undressed. Works every time.

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Having not been in HK for 6 months, I was keen to hit the town. Arrived into the Wharney Hotel, which has had good and bad reports. My first stay here and it was fine. Clean, good sized room in a great position.

Anyway, I had a great night last time at Makati so off I went around 10pm, only to be really disappointed. Not the youngest or best looking girls here tonight, so after a couple of beers, I went down to Neptune. Place was pumping with a fine selection. Got a seat at the bar and chatted to two cute Manila girls. Settled for the younger one which in hindsight was a minor mistake as she had no self confidence and was pretty shy in the room. Plus, we'd been drinking and dancing so she was feeling a little pissed. Overpaid her big time at HK1500 for LT. Her names Jessie, but she was headed home today.

On Saturday, I hit Laguna which had quality everywhere, even though it was only half full. Crazy filipina's showing plenty of thong action. Ended up with a great freebie called Santy, a short haired Indo maid with pierced nose and tongue wearing short denim shorts. I thought she was a dyke at first, but she turned out to be nasty in the bedroom. I'd had a few drinks and she had to go by 10pm otherwise her "family" would be unhappy, so I finished with a HJ which hit my stomach. Santy then licked it all up, god bless her!

Already looking forward to seeing her on the next visit.

[QUOTE=Desertman]... So I said Ok, you're a real babe, so let's have another good session, I'll pay you 2000hk instead of 1500, and if it's good again we'll do the same this evening after I've done my business stuff all afternoon. SO that's pretty much what happened. Don't know if I paid above market rate, but I think with a body like hers I got value, and a fun time too.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you paid above the market rate.
[QUOTE=Desertman]... Her name is Fria, and she is working HK mainly to get money for her family. The Manila flood went through her family house, up the the roof she said, and they lost everything, even wrecking the toilet. They have to totally renovate, and are all still living in a shelter. She was so happy to send 2000HK home on the first morning and is a genuine and lovely young lady. I felt very good to be able to help her out and do my bit for disaster relief![/QUOTE]
For what it's worth, EVERY Filipina working in HK is working to get money to send home to her family. And while she may be telling the truth about her family being affected by the Manila flood, the reality is that there's always a disaster/medical crisis/school fees/other excuse used to justify why a Filipina needs to send money home. Every Filipina I've ever met seems to have at least one relative who needs eye surgery, etc.; one Filipino whom I work with in the US supports over 50 relatives (in 4 generations) back home and he's unable to retire even though he's in his late 60s, single and childless himself.

Over 6 million Filipinos (maybe 9 million?) work overseas and send their remittances home; it's one of the largest sources (if not the largest) of foreign exchange for the Philippines' economy, and it's even been encouraged by the current President of the Philippines. A couple of years ago the International Herald Tribune did a series of articles on the negative effects that this is having on the Philippines, including the reversal of traditional gender roles (the majority of the overseas workers are female, many of them mothers) and the fostering of laziness by the family left behind - why work for the equivalent of US $100 a month when Mommy/Wife sends us $200 or month every month?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Yes, you paid above the market rate.

Over 6 million Filipinos (maybe 9 million?) work overseas and send their remittances home; it's one of the largest sources (if not the largest) of foreign exchange for the Philippines' economy, and it's even been encouraged by the current President of the Philippines. A couple of years ago the International Herald Tribune did a series of articles on the negative effects that this is having on the Philippines, including the reversal of traditional gender roles (the majority of the overseas workers are female, many of them mothers) and the fostering of laziness by the family left behind - why work for the equivalent of US $100 a month when Mommy/Wife sends us $200 or month every month?[/QUOTE]25- 30% of the countries GDP actually comes from the remittances sent by tyhe million of balikbayans around the world. The largest source of this is actually from California, rather than from Saudi where the vast majority of Filipinos toil.

The peso exchange rate in previous years would suddenly apprecaite dramatically in November and December owing to the huge inflow of funds onto the country to allow the "supported" to have money to celebrate Christmas.

Totally off topic. My apologies.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Victoria Park can be good, but I prefer the stairs that have the large circle that lead from one side of Connaught Road to other. Go up the stairs and you are surrounded by girls, smile and most will smile back. Saunter up and down pretending to wait for someone. Ie look at watch, look at phone and one gal will eventually ask " are you waiting for your gf".[/QUOTE]

This would be the circular bridge over Hennessey Road, spitting distance from Victoria Park in Causeway Bay, yes, and not Connaught Road past the Revenue Tower?

[QUOTE=Pita123]Thanks. This would have been helpful information yesterday. I arrived around 2:30PM and it was a pretty boring place. There were two indo girls pretending to be maids but they apparently had been there also at 3AM so I'm doubtful.[/QUOTE]

Very well could be maids. While many have curfews (so their day off is really a half day off), some do get out the night before and do stay out until Sunday evening, and others do sneak out prior to their curfews.

So even if one gets a freebie on a Sunday, that's the only time? I mean, most of the Indonesian girls have off at best Saturday until Sunday evening? Then what? No chance of seeing them again until the next weekend right?

What about at Christmas? (Since I will be there for that)

As for me, I've got the young, slightly innocent Filippina on Facebook who swears she is not a Wanchai girl (not that I care if she is) and I think we will meet for dinner and see what happens.

And there's an Indonesian girl who posted a personal ad but on her FB page she is listed as in a relationship. However, she still chatted with me and agreed to meet me for dinner and shopping. Her English is not great so chatting gets tedious after a spell and I run out of things to say.

She has a look that just makes me weak-in-the-knees. The prospect of meeting her has me a bit giddy.

And there's at least two local Chinese women who I want to meet.

I never thought I would be in a place where a fat 40-ish white guy like me could have so many options.

Now I just don't want to screw any of this up.

The drawback of chatting so much is that I actually feel something already.

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Hung out at Neptune II on Staurday night late looking for a companion. Lots of flippers, african sisters (scary looking) and a few Viets. Stayed a couple of hours. Finally found a flipper I liked, nice rack, a little pudgy. We will call her Girl 1. She did well in the interview and we agreed on $1000HK for "all night".

And that is when the trouble started...."Please take my friend too, this is her first night in HK and she doesnt know how to get home. We will share the tip." I had already talked to the 24yr ols friend (Girl 2) and she seemed okay. Stupid me, I agreed, thinking I was getting two girls all night for $1000HKD (which is a good deal).

Back to the hotel. "We want to be paid first" - forget it I said, I will pay you in the morning and they dropped it. I showered with girl 1 who turned out to be pretty fat. Then she gave me an okay BBBJ on the bed, some foreplay and then I banged her in multiple position and came doggy. The other girl was hiding in the bathroom while I was doing her.

Then the second girl comes out and announces that they need to leave about 4:00am (it is now about 2:30am). And that is when the trouble started..."all night means 4:00 am"...Huh? I dont want to keep them if they dont want to stay and i was willing to pay 1k for a single girl and 2shots so I say..okay, get me off a second time and then you can go.

And that is when the trouble started....Girl 2 announced she was one her period and she would give me a CBJ or a hand job. No way I said, I dont feel anything with a CBJ and I can give myself a better HJ. They mope around a while, get into the minibar (they did ask first). Finally girl 1 starts to do me again but she is not into it and I cant get off, so we give up. Then girl 2 announces that she will give me a BBBJ if I shower first. So i clean up and she blows me a little bit (actually pretty good BJ) but she keeps stopping and trying to give me a HJ. We are not getting anywhere so I give up and pay them 1k and kick them out.

They weren't bad girls but they weren't upfront with me about girl 2 on her period or leaving at 4am or CBJ. Also I had just finsished a week in BKK and was sexually exhausted so it was not easy for them to get me off.

Moral of the story: Don't take 2 girls (Eden club in Bangjok is a notable exception). The girls seldom work as a team, they distract each other and it is harder to control two of them. I have tried this 4 times (3 pairs of freelancers and 1 brothel) and it has never worked for me. I find it better to pick one girl you like and concentrate on her.

Also philipinas are much more likely to inssit on CBJ than girls from Thailand, Vietnam. Maybe 30% of the flippers wont do BBBJ.

EB

I have done doubles in HK with filipinas before and have always worked well.

Have always been at my suggestion and when I was happy with both girls. Also very clear on my expectatiins.

Cheers

CT

Did it? Will it open? I am leaving today but back in Dec so would love a report on the much anticipated rebirth.

Eric

Sorry if my previous message sounded a bit abrupt. Not meant to be a criticism of you. Written on my blackberry in back of a taxi.

To expand on my points. Last time I was in hk was walking towards Neptune from Laguna when i passed two good looking filipinas heading in the opposite direction. Liked the look of both of them so I smiled and asked where they were going. Quickly agreed to come to Neptune with me where we had a good time. I orignally had intended to take just one and was pretty clear on that from outset. But then as time went on I changed my mind. Asked them if they both wanted to come back. Agreed 1,500 for the pair, no slinking off early and a real 3 in the bed, no hiding in the bathroom. They fulfilled all my expectations and had a good time. It is possible just need to extend your "interview" to cover the 3 some angle.

Having said that had even more fun with two sisters from Tilac bar in Bangkok last week!! That's another story ;-)

Cheers

CT

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]Bouncers at Galaxy told me that Escape will open on the 27th of October (Tuesday).[/QUOTE]I walked by last night, still not open.

[QUOTE=Loveasia77]Bouncers at Galaxy told me that Escape will open on the 27th of October (Tuesday).[/QUOTE]Walked by last night, no luck.

Still closed.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]So even if one gets a freebie on a Sunday, that's the only time? I mean, most of the Indonesian girls have off at best Saturday until Sunday evening? Then what? No chance of seeing them again until the next weekend right?

What about at Christmas? (Since I will be there for that)

As for me, I've got the young, slightly innocent Filippina on Facebook who swears she is not a Wanchai girl (not that I care if she is) and I think we will meet for dinner and see what happens.

And there's an Indonesian girl who posted a personal ad but on her FB page she is listed as in a relationship. However, she still chatted with me and agreed to meet me for dinner and shopping. Her English is not great so chatting gets tedious after a spell and I run out of things to say.

She has a look that just makes me weak-in-the-knees. The prospect of meeting her has me a bit giddy.

And there's at least two local Chinese women who I want to meet.

I never thought I would be in a place where a fat 40-ish white guy like me could have so many options.

Now I just don't want to screw any of this up.

The drawback of chatting so much is that I actually feel something already.

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I love the game and the hunt for never ending freebies. And yes all of mine are produced through chat.

[QUOTE=Basah]This would be the circular bridge over Hennessey Road, spitting distance from Victoria Park in Causeway Bay, yes, and not Connaught Road past the Revenue Tower? [/QUOTE]Yes. Written when I was in office but brain not fully engaged. Yes Hennessy road. The girls gather there in groups on the stairs according to their home towns. A very happy hunting ground.

A million years ago I once went there with one of my children in a stroller. Damn. It took me an hour to get from one end of bridge to other., girls all looking, smiling, wanting to touch (child not me! ). So if you have a friend with a spare "child you can borrow".

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]So even if one gets a freebie on a Sunday, that's the only time? I mean, most of the Indonesian girls have off at best Saturday until Sunday evening? Then what? No chance of seeing them again until the next weekend right?[/QUOTE]

Basically, yes. You've got Sunday and holidays for the maids. But then some of them don't get Sunday's off, they get a different day.

It does help to live here. I've currently got one Indonesian that is a Sunday/public holidays girl, one Filippina who just happens to live two buildings over from me and is free during the day, and then another Indonesian who works days and so has nights free. When she is horny, she calls me. Not sure what she tells her boyfriend.

[QUOTE] What about at Christmas? (Since I will be there for that) [/QUOTE]

Christmas is like any other Sunday/Holiday. If they have it off, then they are out.

started around 6pm in amazonia, the place is quiet in the afternoon and staff is friendly. spent there about 2 hours watching tv and chatting with waitresses. it was around 8pm when wg started showing up. this is the best time to be there, the band was just starting and it wasn't loud yet, so it was easy to carry a conversation. it wasn't crowded either, and the selection was already good. i was approached by a couple of philippinas, pretty good looking. but i wasn't ready to go home yet.

then i headed for galaxy. the lesbians often put on quite a show there, and some of them seem approachable, although i never got lucky. some of them do smile back, and you can find really pretty ones. there is nothing like a genuine smile from a woman that you know is not interested in screwing you for money. there was a bunch of wg there, mostly philippinas, but it's hard to find a good looking one there. i like the band there too. the hot but crappy lead singer was recently replaced by two hot chicks with a lot of charisma.

then i decided that it is time to hit neptunes. it was around midnight, i went to the thai corner, as thais are not that pushy, so i can just stand there and enjoy my beer without being approached too often. and man, they are gorgeous. one of them approached me and we started talking. turns out she was friends with the thai wg, but she was not working, just having fun. and it seemed like she was telling the truth, not trying to get guys to buy her drinks, dancing by herself, etc. we drank, talked and danced, she reached down my pants couple of times, i thought this looks like a prospect. after about an hour i suggested we head to my place. she was apprehensive about that, and said she wants to go to other clubs first. i was worried about her, cause she already had a lot to drink, but oh well, her choice. we went to two more bars and had couple more drinks.

then we took a taxi back to my place. she seemed tired and went straight to bed. i thought she wasn't into it, which was fine with me, she had a lot to drink. i took a shower and joined her on bed. i tried to initiate but she wasn't responsive, and that's ok. we went to sleep. about an hour later, she woke me up and went at it at full speed. amazing, she wanted to go bare back, luckily i had condoms near by. what is it with thais that they want to go bare back? bbbj, daty, mish and cowgirl to finish. quick but great session, and we went back to sleep. she didn't want to repeat in the morning, but overall, very enjoyable session. no money changed hands.

pretty unusual to meet thai freebie in neptues on friday night, isn't it?

I hear it is now open. I'm not in HK for a while so reports please!

Good time to open if US Navy due in town from today!

I will be in hk week after next so will explore and report then

CT

If you walk up Nathan Rd from TST, turn left into Jordan Rd, and then 2nd right. This is WooSung St. And then after 7 m on your left hand side you see a yellow sign (Chinese characters) where you can spot the number "390" and "K". Just go in, do not use the elevator and go up 1 flight of stairs and there you are!

A mamasan will guide you into a room and bring in the girls one by one. Each will have 1-2 minutes to convince you to take her. She will strike your dick and rub you all over. You can also touch her titts and her pussy. Then the time is up, the mamasan comes in again, the girl leaves and you make your decison. You do not have to take the first one. Just ask for more until one is to your liking. I left after 5 girls. Not my type. But I will return.

Cheers

The aircraft carrier George Washington has anchored in Hong Kong waters yesterday, not sure when everyone gets shore leave.

I ventured to the plaza outside the Royal Kowloon. The mommies and their stable are in the plaza or close by. The mommies English is decent. Surprising the second gal offered was more than acceptable. Tall and slender, no waist at all in her jeans. Asked for 8 and offered 5 which was accepted immediately; so try lower if you go there. I had no complaint as I liked her look.

We walked back across Chatham Road to my hotel. BTW, earlier in the afternoon, two absolute stunners walked thru the lobby to the elevators. I am guessing, someone ordered in or they maybe share a room as 'hotel reservation girls'. Sorry to digrest. She insisted before starting for the money to be laid out. Asked for photos, 'no, no'. Strip and into the shower. 22 from Dongbei, been in HK for two years. A couple of words of english which pertain to the profession. Into bed for cat bath, minimal kissing allowed, CBJ, multiple positions. She tried her best to use her hands on me to minimize penetration but that just made me pop sooner as I pushed harder. Another shower together. Then she asked for 100 tip for taxi fare (we walked 2-3 blocks), I rejected on the basis of short superficial kissing only and no photos. 'Mommie only give me a little'. She told me 48 kg and 166 tall. I was surprised she weighed that much but probably because she is a little on the tall side. On the way out, she wanted to raid the mini bar, at least she asked; I do not think she was surprised when I refused.

Evening all.
regards Mong Kok red light area.
I've read a few conflicting reports as to where it actually is, or as to where it is mainly concentrated.
Is it somewhere on Portland st?
Is it the Shanghai Street-Soy Street intersection?
Is it north Temple Street?

Excuse me asking, i did read a heap of reports first.
Over and out. Nickc

[QUOTE=Joe Banana]I hear it is now open. I'm not in HK for a while so reports please![/QUOTE]

Was there the last nights and I was a bit disappointed as it was quite empty, while Neptune and Traffik had been full with people. Yesterday it was quite full. To say it in short words, from the inside it looks different than Fenwicks. The atmosphere is more cold inside. While Fenwicks had some small corners it is now one big room with the bar in the middle and some tables at the sides. Give it 2 or 3 more weeks and it will be the same like Fenwicks. At least concerning the people inside. The old side entrance of Fenwicks is now the main entrance.

There is one thing what will be different. Most Colombians will not be there. They have to give their bags at the entrance to the bouncers what makes them quite pissed off. All other girls are allowed to take their bags inside. Might be a tribute to the drug stories from Fenwicks before. Also inside the restroom they put some signs that using drugs will be immediately reported to the police

I was yesterday there with 2 Colombians which I know since a long time. We met in Traffik and then we went over to Escape. That they had to give their bags while all other girls could enter with bags made them feel quite inconvenient. We had a few drinks and then we moved to Dragon Eye.

Thanks Oliver. I personally do not like the Colombians, any place that keeps them out is an improvement to me. Escape? I think we should just call it "F2".

Nickc, there is not a concentrated red light area as such it is all those places.

[QUOTE=Nickc]Evening all.
regards Mong Kok red light area.
I've read a few conflicting reports as to where it actually is, or as to where it is mainly concentrated.
Is it somewhere on Portland st?
Is it the Shanghai Street-Soy Street intersection?
Is it north Temple Street?

Excuse me asking, i did read a heap of reports first.
Over and out. Nickc[/QUOTE]

It is basically the whole area from including Shanghai Street, Portland Street to the other side of Nathan Road including the ladies market and Sai Yeung Choi Street from Dundas Street to Arygyle Street and beyond until you hit the Caltex Service Station in Prince Edward. Of course there are various concerntration of shops depending on which block you are standing on. Once you learn to recognise the yellow signs places you will know what I mean.

I will be in transit in HKG next week with not much time available unfortunately.

If anyone has contact information to share, it would be much appreciated, please PM me.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]Once you learn to recognise the yellow signs places you will know what I mean.[/QUOTE]

The other identifying mark is the florescent light strips - usually a pinkish colour, but sometimes a rainbow of pink, yellow and blue. They are all (or almost all) walkups. You are on a security camera as you walk up, so they know you are coming. They will either have the door open (it will be the mirrored jobbie) or somebody usually opens it for you.

Again, on a scale of 1 (not) to 10 (customer service star) scale for safety, I'd give it an 8 or 9 or so. I've only had a couple of negative encounters with the 'management' - one where the young triad was in a bit of a funk, and the other when I complained about the new girl they gave me who just whined the whole time - bj, mish, doggie, whole thing, everything hurt (and I ain't that big) - nothing nasty, just they were like "tough shit." YMMV

8 Mong Kok Road. Up the stairs a few flights. Old place but remember reading about young gals here. Afternoon, line up of two, both dressed very scantily with short skirts and filmsy tops. Chose the shorter well stacked gal with big eyes. Upstairs through a locked door or two. Double bed with attached old bathroom with shower stall and air conditioning. Old but not filthy.

18 from Sichuan and I am a head taller than her, she says 145 cm. Fresh off the train alright; since she is 18, I ask how many months she had been working and she says one week. This gal was really cute from behind following her up the stairs. Seems as though she is not used to her high heels as she is not well balanced when she walks. Maybe she has only worn high heels for a week too. She is amazingly well built for such a small package. After a shower, she gives a cat bath and asks to cover little bro for BJ, I wave her off and she reluctantly proceeds to BBBJ. Multiple positions and she is tight and she really bounces around up top in mish. One pop and another shower.

Damage is 360, paid on the way out.

[QUOTE=California8]This gal was really cute from behind following her up the stairs. Seems as though she is not used to her high heels as she is not well balanced when she walks. Maybe she has only worn high heels for a week too.[/QUOTE]LOL, seems all Chinese gals find heels difficult.

Did you feel safe the whole time? I have always had a concern someone will appear with a video tape and a "it will cost you 5K" as I leave. Never heard of this actually happening mind, just concern over the safety and security.

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory]Good time to open if US Navy due in town from today!

I will be in hk week after next so will explore and report then

CT[/QUOTE]

I dont think they put the opening on the arrival day of the Navy. All "non white" had to pay entrance fee in Fenwicks. Therefore you only found a few Navy guys inside. There where they could enter without paying they stood together, they drunk and they danced. The choice of girls was same as before and I didnt see many of them leaving the bars with a Navy guy. Wanchai was of course crowded, but more outside on the streets. Only N2 was difficult to enter because that plave was really overloaded. Next to the Navy all bars also celebrated Haloween and a lot of tourists moved to Wanchai.

[QUOTE=Bobby Cat]Did you feel safe the whole time? I have always had a concern someone will appear with a video tape and a "it will cost you 5K" as I leave. Never heard of this actually happening mind, just concern over the safety and security.[/QUOTE]

Really not a concern.

[QUOTE=Gren62]Johnny Rocket, I don't understand why you got angry with the girl. It seemed that she was just trying to lighten the mood. The only thing you should be mad about is that you were charged $280 at Ming Court. They tried charging me $200 once, but I claimed to have paid only $160 before, to which they agreed. I was lying though and only had read on this forum that the rate was $160![/QUOTE]

I guess they owe me a few free ones then. Thanks, never read this before on the forum but will know in the future!

I've just been in Singapore and prices in OT have dropped substantially. SG$100 seems to be the going rate for ST, even LT if you are lucky. I even had offers for S$50 ST from some Filipinas and Viets.

That said, it seems that HK pricing seems to remain firm at HK$1,000 up for Wanchai freelancers which has a similar demographic to OT in Singapore and pricing used to be pretty close to par. Some of the better quality S. Americans in Wanchai have the nerve to ask for as high as HK$3,000 ST.

Do any of you Wanchai regulars see any softening in prices lately? I will be there this week and do not want to pay more than I have to.

Thanks.

OAH

OK all, the correct name for F2 is "Escpape on Fenwick". Now has different owners Brit, Chinese and Nepali. Colombians discouraged, very quiet this arvo but obviously not on the Sunday pm circuit. OAH, prices still seem firm tried $400 on a tourist for ST today and got rejected, I've had LT for $600 recently, you've just got to shop around, when you consider Dundas or KP at $500 then ST flipper prices plus you have to pay for a room is not such a good deal. Remind them what you are offering in Pesos and they sometimes see sense.
Nearly had a freebie too but her hair was smelly so gave it a miss; Indo so expected a little smelly but do they not think "must wash my hair before heading down the wanch"?
Only when the US Navy is in town do I see guys wearing Coyote Mexican hats, why is that? Life is full of such mysteries.
Amusing sign on the door in Makati, "Men $200, US Navy $100", great, they get a special discount! Locals will know what I mean.
Last week tried Queenie Sauna off Jordan Road good deal for $700, can recommend.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I've just been in Singapore and prices in OT have dropped substantially. SG$100 seems to be the going rate for ST, even LT if you are lucky. I even had offers for S$50 ST from some Filipinas and Viets.

That said, it seems that HK pricing seems to remain firm at HK$1,000 up for Wanchai freelancers which has a similar demographic to OT in Singapore and pricing used to be pretty close to par. Some of the better quality S. Americans in Wanchai have the nerve to ask for as high as HK$3,000 ST.

Do any of you Wanchai regulars see any softening in prices lately? I will be there this week and do not want to pay more than I have to. [/QUOTE]Would appreciate a quick update after you get back on your findings of pricing. I will be there in December for first time. Damn the pricing sounds high.

Funny I was just in Help in Rio in Sept and it was ourtrageous there with asking prices.

I am going out of the frying pan into the fire.

I have been in HK for a little while now, and have been reading many of your posts to gain insight on the scene in HK. So, thank you for all of your contributions. So, in part I would like to contribute my fair share to this board to help whomever may need the help, so here are my experiences.

During my stay in HK, I have had the opportunity to visit all of the major publicly advertised Saunas in the Jordan area, and in terms of quality in the women, all of them sucked (mainly older women, or if they are younger they don't look good face wise). The cheapest I found was the Ya Mau Cha Sauna. I am not sure if I spelled this correctly, but for HK $ 508 you can get everything. I don't know specifically where it is, but if you get off of the MTR Red Line and exit the A Exit, turn right, then turn right down the first street, you will run right into the Sauna, which is in the basement. It is pretty well advertised towards the end of the street. Also, tried to experiment with Club Paris and those Saunas in Tsim Sha Shui area, but found it too pricy and walked. Maybe I walked into the wrong place, but if anyone has any experience with this area, please share.

One thing I learned from an employee at the Ya Mau Cha Sauna was about all of the signs that advertise women that have the words OK on them. These are Bars or Kareoke Bars that let you sit and drink with the women and take them home if you want to. I know the quality of the women in these bars is great because 1) I have had the misfortune of accidentally walking into one on my way to a Sauna, and out of ignorance walked out, because I didn't know what it was, and 2) during one of my brisk morning walks saw the talent that was leaving the bars as the bars closed. Now when I speak of quality, I mean the women you see in Asian magazines or on TV.

Going back to the Sauna experience though, if this is for you. Make sure you do not go when they first open, because they usually just have 1 girl working which sucks, and there is a fee to leave if you decide against the only choice in the Sauna. Also, you can actually choose the girl by just saying no, so for newbies don't think that you have to go with what they give you.

If anyone has any questions about my experiences please just ask, I know there are probably some things that I left out because I don't want to type a term paper here. After my experience with this, I am seriously looking for some quick cheap quality out there if anyone knows about this please let me know? Something more incallish. I am not into the whole Wan Chai thing, because I am not into Filipino women and I had a bad experience with the bars down there, so I am totally not into Wan Chai.

Oh, I also tried the 141 thing, and after my experience you truly overpay and all of the photos are photoshopped in some way. In my opinion, that is a waste of money and I felt I was lied to by not getting the girl I saw in the photo.

Hope this helps.

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Is the Navy in town?
If yes, how long are they expected?
If they are in town, do they stick to Wanchai or hit all usual mongering locations?

Apologize for all the q's, earlier post not clear about shore leave and for how long.

I'm coming thru the area Tue/Wed.

Thanks,
TK

From Shenzhen paper;

" The “George • Washington” aircraft carrier groups of U.S. Navy docked at Hong Kong Waters to get supply and rest and recuperation on 29th Oct., which was the first time that it had stopped over in Hong Kong.
The Commander David Lauschmann claimed in the brief news conference that they would like to strengthen cooperation with the Chinese Navy in antipiracy and Maritime Search and Rescue. As introduced, there were over 5500 officers and ratings coming with the “George • Washington” aircraft carrier groups, and they would stay in Hong Kong for 4 or 5 days. "

[QUOTE=Tommy Boy]I have been in HK for a little while now, and have been reading many of your posts to gain insight on the scene in HK. So, thank you for all of your contributions. So, in part I would like to contribute my fair share to this board to help whomever may need the help, so here are my experiences.

During my stay in HK, I have had the opportunity to visit all of the major publicly advertised Saunas in the Jordan area, and in terms of quality in the women, all of them sucked (mainly older women, or if they are younger they don't look good face wise). The cheapest I found was the Ya Mau Cha Sauna. I am not sure if I spelled this correctly, but for HK $ 508 you can get everything. I don't know specifically where it is, but if you get off of the MTR Red Line and exit the A Exit, turn right, then turn right down the first street, you will run right into the Sauna, which is in the basement. It is pretty well advertised towards the end of the street. Also, tried to experiment with Club Paris and those Saunas in Tsim Sha Shui area, but found it too pricy and walked. Maybe I walked into the wrong place, but if anyone has any experience with this area, please share.

One thing I learned from an employee at the Ya Mau Cha Sauna was about all of the signs that advertise women that have the words OK on them. These are Bars or Kareoke Bars that let you sit and drink with the women and take them home if you want to. I know the quality of the women in these bars is great because 1) I have had the misfortune of accidentally walking into one on my way to a Sauna, and out of ignorance walked out, because I didn't know what it was, and 2) during one of my brisk morning walks saw the talent that was leaving the bars as the bars closed. Now when I speak of quality, I mean the women you see in Asian magazines or on TV.

Going back to the Sauna experience though, if this is for you. Make sure you do not go when they first open, because they usually just have 1 girl working which sucks, and there is a fee to leave if you decide against the only choice in the Sauna. Also, you can actually choose the girl by just saying no, so for newbies don't think that you have to go with what they give you.

If anyone has any questions about my experiences please just ask, I know there are probably some things that I left out because I don't want to type a term paper here. After my experience with this, I am seriously looking for some quick cheap quality out there if anyone knows about this please let me know? Something more incallish. I am not into the whole Wan Chai thing, because I am not into Filipino women and I had a bad experience with the bars down there, so I am totally not into Wan Chai.

Oh, I also tried the 141 thing, and after my experience you truly overpay and all of the photos are photoshopped in some way. In my opinion, that is a waste of money and I felt I was lied to by not getting the girl I saw in the photo.

Hope this helps.

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While there are hot women in KTVs / OKs, you were lucky to walk out as unaccompanied newbies have a high tendency to getting ripped off. It is highly recommndable to go the first time with a regular. And expect to pay for the gal, hotel room and bar tab, HK$2,000 and up ST.

Sounds like you should be headed to K-Pressure.

BB,

What and where is K-Pressure?

Thanks

Hey guys

I'm staying on Nathen Road, Tsimshatsui and I looking for a bar near by or something where I can have a drink and talk to some women, I'm 31 from Australia and just in town for a few days.

Let me know where a good place to go close by is, I used to stay at holiday inn down the Road and the best thing about that place is the bar inside is full or working girls, so of course it was easy now I'm happy to do that again but the hotel I'm staying at this time doesn't have a bar like that

Any help would be great guy.

Hi guys,

I'll be at Excelsior hotel for the night. Do you know any massage parlor nearby?

Thanks

Hi Guys,

I'll be in town only for 2 nights, staying at Excelsior hotel. Do you recommand any massage parlor close to this hotel? I've read threads on bars and places to find girls not too far from this area (Wan Chai and Jaffre Road) but not really on massage pleases.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bobby Cat]LOL, seems all Chinese gals find heels difficult.

Did you feel safe the whole time? I have always had a concern someone will appear with a video tape and a "it will cost you 5K" as I leave. Never heard of this actually happening mind, just concern over the safety and security.[/QUOTE]Seems to me that could happen anywhere except your own hotel room.

[QUOTE=Tommy Boy]BB,

What and where is K-Pressure?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Tommy,

RTFF as there are pages and pages of reports about this place and a place I think called 39 Dundas Street. It seems where guys on this forum have gotten the highest level of satisfaction for what you want.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Cat

Did you feel safe the whole time? I have always had a concern someone will appear with a video tape and a "it will cost you 5K" as I leave. Never heard of this actually happening mind, just concern over the safety and security.

= Bobby Cat, i'ld only pay $50 hk for such a video of myself, depending on the quality of filming. =

[QUOTE=Arxaello]Hi Guys,

I'll be in town only for 2 nights, staying at Excelsior hotel. Do you recommand any massage parlor close to this hotel? I've read threads on bars and places to find girls not too far from this area (Wan Chai and Jaffre Road) but not really on massage pleases.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Blue Sky Sauna at Causeway Plaza II. Search the forum for details. It's just a couple of minutes walk from your hotel.

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]Tommy,

RTFF as there are pages and pages of reports about this place and a place I think called 39 Dundas Street. It seems where guys on this forum have gotten the highest level of satisfaction for what you want.[/QUOTE]BB,

Thanks. I went there yesterday and was glad I did.

Thanks

Went to K-Pressure late last month (October) in the middle of the afternoon. Went to the 2nd level of the building, and found a bar. Duh!

Went to the 3rd level of the building and a (female) attendant waved me away.

Where oh, where, is the famous and infamous K-Pressure massage and FS establishment?

Feeling in need of some relief, I wandered up the street (Woosung St, away from Jordan Rd, the same side as the yellow K-Pressure sign).

About 6 doors along a Sichuan cutie, maybe late 20s, was handing out flyers for a massage. I said (in Mandarin) that I only wanted to look, but she easily convinced me that 120 HK dollars spent on a foot and back massage would be money well spent. Up the stairs, into a narrow and semi-darkened cubicle, most clothes off (the usual routine).

I was there for about an hour, and saw and heard about 5 or 6 other Sichuan cuties yabbering away, mostly from the adjacent flat (which undertakes similar massages). Massage was semi-skilled and from the marketing and sweet whispers in the ear, is often a prelude to R&T and grope for an extra 120. Only indulged the grope momentarily and was then assured that the menu was more extensive than I had previously been led to believe.

After the massage, easily convinced my cutie to come to my hotel room at 5:30 rather than have an evening meal.

Opening quote was 500HK $, easily reduced to 400.

Back at the nearby 1 or 2 star hotel by about 5:45.

Shower together, strong mutual orgasms after much slow foreplay (my kind of scene).

No rush, just good strong, almost-GFE f**king.

Repeat: you bet. (However, I had to leave HK the next day, otherwise I would have repeated, and maybe repeated again.)

Overall rating 9/10. (A little disappointed that the bra contained mostly foam and air, and insufficient mammary. No direct kissing allowed. However, DATY was deep and sustained.) Tipped her an extra 100 (500 in total) because of her EXCELLENT service.

Knowing Mandarin helped, but I found the Sichuan accent difficult. Thank heavens for mobile phones as a communication tool!

It is highly likely that all 5 or 6 of the gals are potentially available for takeaway. My understanding is that FS is not available on the premises.

Just my experience.

Enjoy.

P13.

PS. Have her mobile phone number if Senior non-whingeing members are interested.
PPS. For me, a peak paybe experience.

[QUOTE=Skylineguy]Hey guys

I'm staying on Nathen Road, Tsimshatsui and I looking for a bar near by or something where I can have a drink and talk to some women, I'm 31 from Australia and just in town for a few days.

Let me know where a good place to go close by is, I used to stay at holiday inn down the Road and the best thing about that place is the bar inside is full or working girls, so of course it was easy now I'm happy to do that again but the hotel I'm staying at this time doesn't have a bar like that

Any help would be great guy.[/QUOTE]You are not too far from Sticky Fingers on Mody Road -- it's walkable or cab should not cost too much.

Great band, small selection of WG. Not as good as Neptune's or something similar in Wanchai but closer than Wanchai -- no trip across the tunnel.

And there are WG on the street in that area as well -- some attractive -- see my earlier posts.

Since you mentioned Australia, there are a lot of Aussies in that area judging from the people I met when I was there.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Tommy Boy]

Oh, I also tried the 141 thing, and after my experience you truly overpay and all of the photos are photoshopped in some way. In my opinion, that is a waste of money and I felt I was lied to by not getting the girl I saw in the photo.

Hope this helps.

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Totally agree. Do NOT try 141 girls, they are all photoshopped with heavy makeups. I tried 5 and I was 0 for 5. I tried $800 - $2200 range, all suck.

As for Saunas, usually there are a few gems from China but they are all hidden for frequent clients, the manager won't recommend them to you unless you are "in the know", so do a little research first (usually some blog will brag about good ladies and give out their number.) Otherwise, prepare for late 20s, early 30s "service" Even if they send you a young one it will be 5 face.

Finally, avoid the bars. They are all scams that looks to maximize stealing from your wallet, especially if they sense you're a newbie. Those pretty things are there to make your head dizzy. I have known many people that went there thinking they are going to get laid by pretty women, only to walk out empty handed and just realizing they spent over $8000 HKD on overpriced "free beer", "free snacks", "free drinks"

If you want sure hottie, then Night Club (not bars) is the only way to go. Sure it's $4000 HKD per pop but quality is quality and you got to pay for it.

I have been around Hong Kong for 7 years. I have concluded that K Pressure is a great deal because:

Its convenient to get to (MTR literally down stairs).

Its big and clean compared to some of the other service establishments around town.

The girls are rotated regularly.

Soapy massage.

They are gweilo friendly.

The girls deliver every time because they are told what to deliver.

They pay attention to customer input (no pun intended).

You can do K pressure on a 4 hour airport layover (again no pun intended) no problem.

141 is an adventure safari. But the results can be surprising or spotty.

Wanchai girls are over priced so save your ammo if you need fast relief.

Street walkers are always street walkers.

You don't need to be a boy scout to find K pressure.

[QUOTE=Abc Boy]Totally agree. Do NOT try 141 girls, they are all photoshopped with heavy makeups. I tried 5 and I was 0 for 5. I tried $800. $2200 range, all suck.

As for Saunas, usually there are a few gems from China but they are all hidden for frequent clients, the manager won't recommend them to you unless you are "in the know", so do a little research first (usually some blog will brag about good ladies and give out their number.) Otherwise, prepare for late 20s, early 30s "service" Even if they send you a young one it will be 5 face.

Finally, avoid the bars. They are all scams that looks to maximize stealing from your wallet, especially if they sense you're a newbie. Those pretty things are there to make your head dizzy. I have known many people that went there thinking they are going to get laid by pretty women, only to walk out empty handed and just realizing they spent over $8000 HKD on overpriced "free beer", "free snacks", "free drinks"

If you want sure hottie, then Night Club (not bars) is the only way to go. Sure it's $4000 HKD per pop but quality is quality and you got to pay for it.[/QUOTE]ABC boy,

Not all bar in HK scam tourist most bar in Wachai make their money on selling drink, do agree mongering in HK is way overprice and 141 girl quality sucks and a hit and miss, it is better just go to macau or mainland much cheaper and better Quality.

Fast Eddie 48

Err... Why is Macau much cheaper than HK?

If I go to Wan Chai (Laguna, Neptune, Traffic) I have no problem in finding a nice 7-8 gal (IMHO opinion) who comes home with me for HK$ 1000 a night. It's usually an Indo or Filli gal, but I like them, not only because they are shaved. :D

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]ABC boy,

Not all bar in HK scam tourist most bar in Wachai make their money on selling drink, do agree mongering in HK is way overprice and 141 girl quality sucks and a hit and miss, it is better just go to macau or mainland much cheaper and better Quality.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Davehkg]Err. Why is Macau much cheaper than HK?

If I go to Wan Chai (Laguna, Neptune, Traffic) I have no problem in finding a nice 7-8 gal (IMHO opinion) who comes home with me for HK$ 1000 a night. It's usually an Indo or Filli gal, but I like them, not only because they are shaved.[/QUOTE]Davehkg,

You can pick up indo and flipper freelancer at macau for 500 mop st, many domestic worker here, there are cheap apartment brothel all over macau for 200-300 mop prc girl quality is better than 141 girl, Macau is not about expensive sauna only you need to look around my newbie freind.

Fast Eddie 48

That's right Dave, if you haggle it is less than that for LT. If you are lucky and find a domestic helper on a night out it can be free.
Last night I found a flipper in Escape, second day here so her attitude was not yet jaded. Took her to Ming Court, excellent BBBJ with CIM, short rest then gave her a good shagging. All for $500 plus $140 to MC, MC by the way tried $200 first but just tell them you only want an hour.
For value it compares well to KP or 37 plus I enjoy having a beer in the Wanch and making my own choice rather than what is offered, they speak English so you can chat a little.
I like LT sometimes but it is good to wham bam and go rather than have to endure the whining in the morning about taxi or how much you are paying them. It pays generally to haggle a bit and tell them you are kuriput before the start, also make sure you are clear about how many shots are involved.
Escape is a big improvement on Fenwick, modern bar and decor, more room to move around although it will be the same hell hole when crowded as it will be once word gets around that it is open. Same girls as Amazonia and Neptune etc of course as they all move around during the evening.

Hi Guys

Had a friend who I said I would help out. She is a regular of mine in Singapore. She has gone to HK, arrived Wednesday - maybe she met Joe Banana already :-)! Name is Ann, she is a good performer so look out for her. Don't have a hk number for her yet but pm me if interested and will let you know when I get it.

CT

[QUOTE=Basah]Very well could be maids. While many have curfews (so their day off is really a half day off), some do get out the night before and do stay out until Sunday evening, and others do sneak out prior to their curfews.[/QUOTE]

Well the way the money discussion was going, I have serious doubts, but perhaps.

Ok, I promised a report so I better deliver. This is from 2 weekends ago...


I was in Hong Kong for the weekend. Headed to Neptune 2 since I'd read it has a lot of Thai girls and that is my comfort zone. Had a great time dancing for about 4 hours. One amazing looking girl that wasn't giving anyone the time of day. Found out the next night that she is in fact Thai. She is tallish with dark complexion and wears these tiny leather shorts and a tiny leather bra. Wow! A couple of other girls that wouldn't give me the time of day. Eventually ended up with a woman from Udon Thani. Not all that young but good looking and nice. We had a good night. The next day was Sunday and I'm always reading about the Pinay maids with the day off. So I headed to Wan Chai and hit Bridge as discussed already. I go into New Makati. Lots of girls of various different ages. Most not very attractive IMO. But danced from around 3PM to 8PM. Shifted about halfway through to Laguna. At this point the girls are changing shifts. The maids are rushing home to make it before curfew. The working girls are now streaming in. I head to the hotel in Kowloon to shower and change.

Head back to Neptune 2. Dancing with some gorgeous girls and amusing them with the bit of Thai I know. One of the girls is really pissed at some white guy as he pulled her ponytail. She picks up a bottle at one point and I'm calming her down. Meanwhile a friend of hers is calming the guy down. One thing leads to another and I close a deal with the girl that was calming down the guy. She heads off to talk to some friends. Meanwhile the one that picked up the bottle is making sure my eyes don't stray so her friend doesn't lose me. After a good 45 mins the girl comes back and is ready to go. I tell her to take a hike. After 45 mins I'll be fine by myself thanks. Dance for a good while more. Around 3AM the friend that was guarding me shows up again and I close a deal with her.

In the taxi she's talking about how if I give her HKD 200 more she'll be able to buy a new phone tomorrow. Apparently the guy had pulled her hair but also took her phone, so she claims. She won't stop talking about it. We get to the room and she won't shut up. I tell her if she keeps talking about money we can forget about it. She goes on and on about how we can work together and by the way I can give her more money. I get up and tell her to get dressed and leave. She starts to but then tries to calm me down and get started again. But she won't stop talking about the money. She was driving me nuts. I almost had to literally pick her up and toss her out of the room. Gave her about 1/3 of what we'd discussed but could still hear her chattering down the hallway. Second girl I kicked out in 2 weeks. Hope this doesn't continue at the same rate.

Next day I went to a building with 141 rooms and took care of business. On the way there I bumped into to of the cuter working girls I'd seen in the Pinay maids disco hours the day before. Totally different part of HKG but with a huge coin slot so I assume WG and not maid. We chatted a bit. I should have just taken her back to the room...but anyway... Next time.

Hi bros,

I'm going to HK this coming month, and will be there for 3 nights.

Any suggestion where to stay and with near by happening places.

Please let me know.

Thanks bros

Have the Navy gone now and can I assume that week of 9-13 Nov will be free of either the Navy and any other hinderances to pleasant mongering? Uncle Goober usually hs the best info on this - any news?

CT

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory]Have the Navy gone now and can I assume that week of 9-13 Nov will be free of either the Navy and any other hinderances to pleasant mongering? Uncle Goober usually hs the best info on this - any news?CT[/QUOTE]

CT ... long gone.

No USA navy here next week.

Just lots of bow legged women left in their wake!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Nabim]Hi bros,

I'm going to HK this coming month, and will be there for 3 nights.

Any suggestion where to stay and with near by happening places.

Please let me know.

Thanks bros[/QUOTE]

Novotel Tung Chung. Can't beat it for action.

Hi Mighty,

Yes, I figured I was above market and she actually said she she was anyhow, pretty upfront, "I'm young and good, so that's the rate". AS I say I was happy with that and left HK with a big smile and still many clear and pleasant memories.

Re the disaster etc comments, yes agreed. I am in Dubai now, so no stranger to the Philly expat situation and am in total agreement with you on this. As I have been around Philly workforces in many countries over the years my bullshit radar is very highly tuned, and have had many philly colleagues M & F, as well as employees.

I've no doubt this girl was genuine, as it came out later when some trust was established. She also knew I was no dumb johnny and knew the game a lot better than her.

That being said, thank you for the very relevant and insightful comments for the community on line here so we can all continue to monger in safety, confidence and surety.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Yes, you paid above the market rate.

For what it's worth, EVERY Filipina working in HK is working to get money to send home to her family. And while she may be telling the truth about her family being affected by the Manila flood, the reality is that there's always a disaster/medical crisis/school fees/other excuse used to justify why a Filipina needs to send money home. Every Filipina I've ever met seems to have at least one relative who needs eye surgery, etc.; one Filipino whom I work with in the US supports over 50 relatives (in 4 generations) back home and he's unable to retire even though he's in his late 60s, single and childless himself.

Over 6 million Filipinos (maybe 9 million?) work overseas and send their remittances home; it's one of the largest sources (if not the largest) of foreign exchange for the Philippines' economy, and it's even been encouraged by the current President of the Philippines. A couple of years ago the International Herald Tribune did a series of articles on the negative effects that this is having on the Philippines, including the reversal of traditional gender roles (the majority of the overseas workers are female, many of them mothers) and the fostering of laziness by the family left behind - why work for the equivalent of US $100 a month when Mommy/Wife sends us $200 or month every month?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eric Burden] Also I had just finsished a week in BKK and was sexually exhausted so it was not easy for them to get me off.

Moral of the story: Don't take 2 girls (Eden club in Bangjok is a notable exception). The girls seldom work as a team, they distract each other and it is harder to control two of them. I have tried this 4 times (3 pairs of freelancers and 1 brothel) and it has never worked for me. I find it better to pick one girl you like and concentrate on her.

EB[/QUOTE]I agree Eric as time goes on. I've heard though that the Devils Den in Pattaya is better now than the Eden Club. I can't compare, but my experience at DD a few weeks back was the best experience I've ever had. P4P or freebie. See my report in the relevant section.

Good mongering to all.

[QUOTE=Idler31]Novotel Tung Chung. Can't beat it for action.[/QUOTE]

Yep ... the Aviator is packed with availables.

[QUOTE=Basah]Yep ... the Aviator is packed with availables.[/QUOTE]Anything in the Kowloon side?

Where is the Novotel Tung Chung?

[QUOTE=Idler31]Novotel Tung Chung. Can't beat it for action.[/QUOTE]
That's near the AP, isn't it? A long way from the city.
So where do you take the lady, if you are not staying at the Novotel?

[QUOTE=Daddy San]That's near the AP, isn't it? A long way from the city.
So where do you take the lady, if you are not staying at the Novotel?[/QUOTE]
Ok, I'll jump onto this logic: You can take an exciting bus ride to Mui Wo and take them to the Silvermine beach hotel. They'll love it.
Got it now?

This is my 1st trip to HK and so far it seems like it will be my worst trip ever.

Met a gal on craigs clasified section. Started out good. She wanted $2K for 3 hours. I got her down to $1.2K. Met her late Sat night. She arrived looked very nice. Best looking twat I have seen in awhile. But what started out as heven on earth turned into a train wreck. To start out she declined my picture request. THen she started a half harted BBBJ. It was ok at first, but she started gagging and spitting in a garbage can. It got so bad that she puked. She wanted to continue, but the smell and thought totally ruined the mood. Bottom line I kicked her to the curb with $500 instead of the full fare and spent the night doing my homework for another night.

Bottom line if it sounds too good to be true it probally it.

CT,

I am in HK this week and interested in meeting Ann. Has she given you her contact details here yet?

RHVC

[QUOTE=Chaos Theory]Hi Guys

Had a friend who I said I would help out. She is a regular of mine in Singapore. She has gone to HK, arrived Wednesday - maybe she met Joe Banana already :-)! Name is Ann, she is a good performer so look out for her. Don't have a hk number for her yet but pm me if interested and will let you know when I get it.

CT[/QUOTE]

Sorry guys

Ann has told me she hoolked up with a long term customer for her stay in hk. Lots of other fish in the sea in wan chai though!

CT

This little Mong Kok venue has received a few write-ups, mostly favourable, so I went to check it out. My verdict: don't bother.

One positive: it's easy to get to, being right outside MK MTR exit A2.

Went up the stairs to get in. Papasan was pleased to see me ("Sexymassagee?") and they showed me into a tiny, tiny room. It was RIGHT NEXT TO the reception desk. At least 37D gives the illusion of privacy. Papasan's assistant switched on the porn channel and left me alone.

After a couple of minutes, they brought me a girl. Vastly overweight, old, busted. I declined and they brought me another one who was slightly better but still old and busted. I took her. Service was poor. At some time in her training, someone had told her that guys like having their nipples stimulated. This is mostly what the service consisted of. Nipple-sucking. And then a BBBJ while she reached up and tweaked my nipples. Finally, in mish, she grabbed both nips and tugged 'em around until I had to slap her arms away. This was last Friday, and they're still sore today.

Couldn't finish in mish, ended up jerking off over her. No massage, no second shot (haha, as if...).

So, Golden Coming isn't special, it's just another MK walkup with low girl quality but unexpectedly high prices ($370 for superannuated HK girl is high). And given that it's just over the road from 8MK where young-and-fresh is pretty much guaranteed, I know where I shall be spending my money in the future.

[QUOTE=Idler31]So, Golden Coming isn't special, it's just another MK walkup with low girl quality but unexpectedly high prices ($370 for superannuated HK girl is high). And given that it's just over the road from 8MK where young-and-fresh is pretty much guaranteed, I know where I shall be spending my money in the future.[/QUOTE]did a search on "8MK" and couldn't find anything (assuming I am doing it correctly). Can you pls add a little more info?

Location
Quality
Service
Pric

Many thanks.

[QUOTE=Bobby Cat]did a search on "8MK" and couldn't find anything (assuming I am doing it correctly). Can you pls add a little more info?

Location
Quality
Service
Pric

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]

8 Mong Kok Road. You should be able to search on that. Famous for fresh and young girls, shabby run-down premises, and mediocre service. Worth a visit only if fresh'n'young is your top priority and you don't mind them not really knowing what they're doing.

I made my monthly visit to 37D this afternoon. My favorite, Shelly, wasn't there, so I took a chance on the line-up and chose Becky from Hainan. Speaks a little English, and had a great smile. This time instead of walking up to the 3rd floor hotel, we took the elevator all the way up to the 9th floor. They only charged HK$80 for the room instead of 100 downstairs. Becky said the 3rd floor was all full, so they use the 9th as an overflow. Anyway, the room seemed to be a bit bigger than downstairs, but no mirrors on the walls, and the bathroom/shower was a bit sWe did the usual shower soapy rubdown and BBBJ, then onto the bed for the main event. Becky was especially talented in the rimming department and spent several minutes at the task, much to my pleasure. More BBBJ followed and I almost shot my load when she played with my nipples and slid her mouth up and down on my cock, trying to take it all in. She put on the condom and said "too small, too small". I hope she was referring to the condom and not my cock.! She mounted me and rode me for several minutes, then we switched to missionary for quite a bit longer, then I pulled out and took the condom off and had her go back to the BBBJ and playing with the nipples. Finished off with a quick hand job to spray her stomach with love juice. By this time, the attendant was banging on the door, so we hopped back in the shower for a quick clean up, then clothes back on while there was more banging on the door and shouting from outside. Rode back down in the elevator with another oriental monger who had chosen an older lady with great legs and bigger boobs than Becky, but I'll definitely take Becky again if Shelly isn't available (that seems to be hit or miss.)

[QUOTE=Kycock]picture request. THen she started a half harted BBBJ. It was ok at first, but she started gagging and spitting in a garbage can. It got so bad that she puked.[/QUOTE]Damn.. I can only imagine.

Hopefully tho your dick smelt like sunshine and roses before she started...

I've had many ladies, epecially in Jakarta, have too much wine, get them to the room, start the kissing and undressing, have them run to bathroom, throw up time, quick brush of teeth, then return and continue without a blink.

Thankfully tho no gagging !!

Visited KPressure on my last HK trip ... thanks to members' explicit and accurate directions, its so easy to find.

For a visitor, the service is brilliant ... you get what it says on the box. Soapy, bbbj, rimming and cim (and FS to follow in round two if you can manage it) .. and all done as if she was really enjioying it. To top it all, the mamasan checks with you on the way out that you got what you wanted! All of this for a reasonable price ... way to go man!!

Sorry, folks. But I didn't divide this up. I'll post on HK and Macau boards, too.

Ok, here goes.

I just spent 15 nights in these four places. I spent the weekends plus or minus a day or so in BKK as I have a friend there who teaches and he was occupied during the week so it worked out well. A little hectic traveling some, but I don't mind that like some folks do.

Oct. 24, 25, 26 I stayed at the Dynasty Grande on Soi 6. I hesitate to recommend it because it will become too popular, but hey, for you guys I will. It's reasonably priced, near the action but not right on top of it and good value for the money I thought. First night went to Soi Cowboy with my friend and his gf. Fist went to Baccara and enjoyed the view, then went to Tilac. I barfined a cutie there and the four of us went to Bangkok Beat on Soi 7/1. I like this place. At first I was disappointed that Absolute 7 was defunct, but Bangkok Beat picked up right were Absolut 7 left off. Great band. In fact, I think there were two. Kind of fun mixing with the freelancers and just regular men and women. Kind of keeps you guessing who is whom and who wants what and for how much? Ha.

To make a long story short, I'm not that much into the go go girls in general. I find them overpriced and most have an attitude. I had decided that my girl was about an 8 and would do 2k for short time.(which I thought was plenty). We got back to the hotel, got naked and she said "I need to talk to you about something". I need 2500 short time. I didn't budge and she said "ok, I have to go then". In fairness we were both very civil about it. But since I knew Nana carpark was a 5 minute walk and it was prime time I followed her out the door about 3 minutes after she left. And she was at the corner of Soi 4 and 6 talking on her cell phone either probably 1. Trying to get a ride 2. Trying another short time contact or 3. Who knows? I kind of chuckled because in 10 minutes I had my new girl in tow and was walking back to the Dynasty Grande with a cute spinner who I saw two days later also. All for 1000k baht short time and to me she was cuter than the Tilac girl.

Sunday morning I picked up a sweet girl from I think it was Morning Bar (next to Big Dogs). I had talked with her on Saturday and agreed to the bar fine and 1000 price. She was great.

I tend to pick more the spinner types or semi-spinner types. And tend to pick a girl with a sweet personality. It makes the whole exprience so much more enjoyable.

Ok, Tuesday I took the very new van from the Dynasty Grande to the Dynasty Inn on Soi 13 in Pattaya. It's a great deal because if you book two nights in Pattaya the van ride is free. The van is brand new. I only had one other guy ride along. The van probabl holds 12 or so.

I met Jack and another guy on Tuesday afternoon and we hit the go gos on Tuesday night. Jack was a great host. We met at the Beer Garden. It's a great venue, but I just think it hasn't caught on. Maybe it's actually a bit too upscale for some of the working girls. I'm not sure. We hit about five go gos. Some very lively "participatory" action. And when we went our separate ways, I bfined a cutie outside one of the last go gos.(can't remember which go go). There was a band playing American music. We stayed about an hour and back to the room. She was 31. But very cute. And very nice. I had this one stay the night. I generally don't do that. And she wanted to see me again and just do a regular date thing. I fully intended to do that, but, well, you know. You have to analyze if it's worth it. I feel bad when I tell them I "will" and then don't follow through, but oh well. I didn't follow through. LOL.

I also saw a girl I met on Thai Love links. There's pros and cons to using this site. Pros: 1. You can make contact with a lot of girls that want to spend time with you. 2. It's probably a good site if you are looking for a "real gf" type rather than a one-time free-lance experience, etc. And 3. You know what the girl looks like because they post their pics, etc.

Cons: 1. You can end up collecting all these contacts and then get overwhelmed and never get around to seeing them once you arrive resulting in emails calling you "liar man" when you end up not seeing them. LOL.3. It also costs like 30 bucks a month.

I'm actually glad I did it because I met this cutie in Pattaya. She had said she worked at Secrets, but gave me this story about how a few nights before I met her that management lied, etc. Blah blah blah. So who knows?

It's kind of funny how she felt me out. She wanted to go to MBK restaurant. Which apparently is a local favorite of the girls. Wanted the duck. Which is very good there, actually. Then we were to go "walk around".

Well, I guess she liked me because she gave me a scooter ride to the restaurant and then bac to the hotel and I thought we were just going to walk around and then I'd have to see if she'd go to the room, but she parked the scooter and I basically followed her through the lobby to the elevator at which point being Einstein I figure out she wanted to boom boom. Haha.

She was sweet, sexy, nice, responsive and a spinner type. And gave me her number, email, blah blah. But, hey. After Thursday night I was back to BKK so again I guess I am a "liar man.".

I had decided prior to coming back to BKK that I was going to 1. Save a little money and 2. Try this place out. It was a hotel. Well, room two floors above the Boo Sa Bar on Soi 7/1. Only 700 baht a night. Long story short. Picked up a cutie there and after the bar closed took her to the room. And after one session she wanted to go watch the movies with the rest of the girls (most stayed above the bar also). I thought this was hilarious and kind of cute as she came back. Woke me up. And we continued.

Saturday night my buddy and his gf and I went to Tapa's in the Patpong area for Halloween. Nice music. Nice girls. And he had an additional friend along and we ended up hitting it off. But she didn't go with me.

Sunday I flew to Hong Kong. Never been and had a blast. Very efficient city. Took the airport express train to the Central Station and then a short taxi ride to the Empire Hotel. Close to the expat bars and the action.

The bar that had all the action was definitely Neptune's. There were probably 150 freelancers by midnight. Many expats. They all want a lot though. The bars in the Wan chai area are kind of cool because they are just night clubs with bands and the freelance girls hang out there. I'd say they were 60-65% Filipina, 30% Viet, and maybe 10% Thai. I'd say almost zero Chinese girls.

They seem to want US $200 for even short time. The first night I took a Viet. Donated about half that. But I don't particularly like the Viets there. Very mercenary. Always talking about money money money. She talked money all the way back to the hotel, wanted it up front, etc. If she wasnt so cute, I'd have just walked away once we were in the lobby. But. I DIDN'T. LOL.

Second day I made a mistake. I went to the Fuji building instead of H2p's recommendation of Hop Yee Bldg. To me they were both short walks (10 minutes) from the Empire hotel. I'd done some research on Fuji and some Japanese looking guys were in the elevator so I kind of followed them up and got out at the 16th foor. Long story short. She trie to charge me 2000 HK. When I was expecting 500 hkd. Now, she did start and try for a second pop and I let her. So it was partly my fault I suppose. Hey, I thought maybe she just really liked me. LOL. She ended up calling some dude and eh talked to me and said "the girls said you there two hours (it was more like 1 hour) and said you owe here 2000. Well, I gave her 800 and walked out and got in the elevator. I guess she was satisfied. But.

DON'T GO THERE. TAKE H2P'S advice adn go to Hop Yee instead.

I also took a Gray Line tour (I know, I know) but I really enjoy touring as much as the extra curricular wherever I go. Saw the Peak, etc. Etc. Was fun and broke up the time nicely. BTW, Empire hotel is a great location. Close to the subway. In fact, I took the subway at night to the Night Market in Kowloon and bought a bunch of stuff. Highly recommend it. Only about a 10 minute subway ride from HK Island side.

Ok, where was I? So Wed night I went to Macau. I stayed at the Holiday Inn. Took the ferry. Easy. Walked around by the hotel and explored. H2p had recommended East Spa in Waldo Hotel so went there and got prices, etc. And then at 5:00 went back. It was great. Had the cutest China doll type. No English but she knew exactly what to do. Fire and ice, rimming, toe sucking, etc. BJ in shower. You name it. She was great. It was expensive and the massage extras I got from the girls before and after made it cost more. I also had 3 beers, but the food is free and it's pretty good.

I'd also recommend this place. But for a model girl and doing what I did it's about 300 roses. Cut out the beer and massages and maybe you can get it down to 250 or so.

After that I wanted to see some of the hotels so had a cab take me across the bridge to see the Venetian. What a hotel. Worth the ride just to see it. Then I returned adn went throuigh the Lisboa Hotel. Located the racetrack. What a sight seeing the girls walk round and round waiting or a customer. I walked opposite direction from them a few times but they wouldn't make eye contact. I think it maybe be strictly for Chinese dudes. I reported them to the Affirmative Action office. Just kidding folks. There's enough to go around!

So. One of the girls at the East Spa had said D2 and MGM disco were happenning places at night so went to MGM. Wanted to see the hotel anyway. Not much happenning until about 11:30 and then the Filipinas started to come! Long story short. I started talking to a tall 31 year old who kept trying to set me up with her little friends. But you know how it goes. She said she wasn[t a frelancer, but worked as a waitress only for a month. But liked to try and help her younger friends. So anyway. It's kind of the first time I realized that sometime I'm not that into the 20 year olds. Just too green so as the night wore on Sheila and I just hung out. She was 5 ft 7 1/2. About a 7 I supposed. But nice legs and ass, for sure. And just ghe greatest personality. So we ended up back at my room. And man she was hot. Stayed the night. And in the morning I am going to donate and she was insulted. Seriously. After about 20 minutes of sort of arguing I told her that she should help her family and then she accepted the donation. What a nice woman. Seriously.

Well, ferry back to HK. Left way way too early. Back to BKK. For Thursday, Friday, and Saturday and back to the Dynasty Grande. Hung out with my friend at a mall near where he lives. Hit the Beer Garden for Saturday afternoon delight. And found a cutie for a Sunday morning delight before my flight back to SFO. Oh, on Saturday went to Vientiane Kitchen off Sukhumvit. Forgot the soi. Maybe in the 40's? It's Isan food. Be a good "date" place. Performers, etc. Was fun.

Also met with one of you on Sunday morning to swap stories, etc. Not sure if he wants his name mentioned so I won't.

I'm sure I forgot a load of stuff, but hopefully you found the info at least informative if not interesting.

Special thanks to Jack for Pattaya help and h2p for input on HK and Macau. And thanks for Surfer for running the board.

I'd be happy to respond to any inboxes, etc.

Best wishes to everyone!

Oh, while I have you. I'm thinking about a February trip. Probably about 11 days and would like to include Laos possibly. Is it possible to spend say 6 days in Thailand and then do 5 in Laos and have it be worthwhile?

Is there time for Vientiane and say Luang Prabang or is just one of these possible and is it best to fly to say Luang Prabang.(I'm assuming for Vietiane maybe I can fly to Udon Thani and then take a taxi there? ). Any advice would be appreciated.

Take care, everyone.

Where do you find Korean females in Hong Kong?

Thanks in advance,

Wushu

Was in Hong Kong a couple of days last week.
Stayed in Kowloon side, no time to check out Wanchai.

141 action
Checked 141's nearby hotel, went to see lily at James S Lee Mansion, 33-35 Carnavon Rd, Kowloon.

Pluses
Service: no complaints. Carefull shower includes BBBJ, on the bed followed a rimm job then excellent BBBJ. I couldn't take it any longer and BBBJ to completion in the mouth.
D cups: enhanced but still nice shape and feel.
Nice shape: no extra fat, soft in the right places
Price is right: 400HKD full service
Attentive: Her phone buzzed (SMS?) and another customer knocked during the session, she ignored both and continued concentrating on me.


Minuses
Face - looks not bad, but shows signs of age. Some mongers may prefer younger girl. Also, she is the type with painted on eyebrows.
I dont know why women pluck their eyebrows off, its not attractive.

Summary
Overall a 7/8 out of 10.
Will probably try again.




Hari's action
Spent about 60mins last Tuesday night checking out Hari's. Ratio of hustling women to men was about 1:1. Not the best if you are want to bargain.
The talent was so-so: some cute faces on average bodies, some chubby girls, some black girls. Nothing realy stood out and I was too tired to try anything, so I left.
I like the mellow action of Hari's, at the end of the day when I'm ready to call it a night ... its convenient to my hotel and worth a look just to see whats hanging around.

TK

[QUOTE=AsianChaos]Gentlemen,

Just thought i should add since the last few discussions has been about visas.

Russians from 1st July do not need visa to come to Hong Kong. I guess they get it on arrival.

So i am assuming that a lot of russian girls will be available after June in Hong Hong.

Just my 2 cents.

- AC[/QUOTE]

Following up on this. Has anyone noticed an increase in the number of Russian WGs?

[QUOTE=Desertman]Where is the Novotel Tung Chung?[/QUOTE]
It's about 35km and over half hour train ride from the city. In other words, Idler31's suggestion to stay there was an attempt at humor.

[QUOTE=Wushu]Where do you find Korean females in Hong Kong?
Wushu[/QUOTE]

Try the Korean Embassy in the Finance Centre at Harcourt Road. Recomend Susan - great BBBJ and a visa at the same time, but ask for a private interviewing cubicle

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Try the Korean Embassy in the Finance Centre at Harcourt Road. Recomend Susan - great BBBJ and a visa at the same time, but ask for a private interviewing cubicle[/QUOTE]Funny, but if you have a "real" answer I'd love to know.

Try Kimberly Road in TST. There's lots of Japanese nightclubs and some Korean stores there. The girls who work the nightclubs live in the Kimberly Road/Austin Ave area and you can sometimes see them heading to work all dolled up.

Its an expensive route. Go to the nightclub, make friends with them, stay till closing time, offer them a meal and take it from there. I know guys who have successfully done this. There's some of the karaoke joints in Causeway Bay too.

Have fun in HK!


[QUOTE=Wushu]Where do you find Korean females in Hong Kong?

Thanks in advance,

Wushu[/QUOTE]

Are HK bars and saunas enforcing the new smoking ban? I'm especially interested in whether the Wanchai (i.e. mongering) bars are following the ban. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Gren62]Are HK bars and saunas enforcing the new smoking ban? I'm especially interested in whether the Wanchai (i.e. mongering) bars are following the ban. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Yes they are enforcing the ban. Neptunes was a delight without all the smoke, so don't worry your enjoyment for the whole night both drinking and after is almost guaranteed,

BJK

I agree. The bars are a delight without all that smoke. But there are bars that turn a blind eye and let the customer take the risk of being fined. I've seen patrons light up in Amazonia and the bouncer heads towards the patron. Patron sees bouncer and stubs out his cigarette, and bouncer does a u turn and heads back towards the door. This is repeated a couple of times during the evening.

Traffic has a few smokers puffing away, and so does Makati. Neptunes allows smokers at the back near the office.

Have fun in HK.

[QUOTE=Gren62]Are HK bars and saunas enforcing the new smoking ban? I'm especially interested in whether the Wanchai (i.e. mongering) bars are following the ban. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bobby Cat]Funny, but if you have a "real" answer I'd love to know.[/QUOTE]

Sorry - could not resist it - but Ramn HK has given you some idea of where they are. I've never seen any in the Wan Chai bars.

[QUOTE=Dimension]Following up on this. Has anyone noticed an increase in the number of Russian WGs?[/QUOTE]

You will find the stunners in Dragon Eye in LKF. But the price is the upper level. The mid. level is sometimes in Traffik, or Sticky Finger in Kowloon.

Last night I decided to stop by the bar at the Holiday INN in Kowloon TST area. I was quite surprised. Th place was crawling with lovely ladied. They were working the floor, going guy to guy starting with small talk and asking to go somewhere pivate. I decided on a very nice African lady from New Guinny. I could have Chineese, Japaneese, Rusian, or European. They all seemed to work together. A Korean lady aproached me first, but I told her she want my type. She asked what I was looking for and I said someone with nice breasts. She then introduced me to the African and a Japaneese lady. I decided on to try black to see if I would ever go back and had a nice time for 800. She started at 2K, but it wa late and I told her I spend most of my money on a fake rolex. She settledon 1K, but when we got to my room I only had 800 and some change and she told me not to worry about it.

She striped for me and then took off my shirt and pants. We hopped in the shower for a soap up. It was very nice. Then on to the bed for a BBBJ. She edged me close,but stopped and held my cock tight till it passd. Then she got me hard agian by hand and hopped on top sort of reverse cowgirl and side saddle as she rode me down the trail. She moved back to front and rode me till the rubber came off. THen she sucked me some more 69 style. I could have DATY, but fingered it instead while I enjoyed theview of her pink passion fruit. Then she got on all fours and told me to "FUCK ME HARD" It was the wildest fuck I have ever had. Slapping her ass, balls deep and a hard cum. Then she cleaned me up, ut my little guy away and went on her way like a stranger in the night.

I will be back for more. She was hot.

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As a general rule, I try not to play in HK for various reasons. However I was in Mong Kok a few days ago and just a spit throw away from 8MK and decided to pay them a visit. The last time I had been to a yellow sign was more than 3 years ago somewhere by Ladies Market.

I walked up and a younger man was waiting for me at top of the stairs. He walked me to a waiting room and asked if I wanted anything special and I replied no. He left and a few minutes later there was a knock on the door and he walked in with a cute young girl. The girl looked at me and muttered in Mandarin "He is not Chinese" and he replied harshly "Shut up!" and she said something that I did not understand and made a face! Okay! We are off to a great start! She motioned for me to follow her and we went up two floors and she opened a door and yelled something and I just understood the word foreigner and a female voice answers back with a chuckle. She motioned toward the end of hallway and I walked to the end into an okay room. It was not Ritz but it looked clean! White clean sheet on the bed and decent lighting and a clean looking shower area to the side. Then I hear her yelling and comes to the door and says "No! No!" and motion for me to follow her! We go back half way down the hallway and she stops and opens a door. I walk in and was shocked! Dim lights, a bed with red plastic covered mattress, paper tissues all over the floor, an almost full ashtray and a pack of cigarette on the bed, one dirty pillow, a filthy shower with mildewy walls and a stanch to top it off.

I turned and said no and walked out and she shrugged her shoulders and said "okay"! Just like that! I walked down and the man was surprised to see me. He got up and said "Wait, I get you another" and I just kept walking...

Can not complain much though. If a Chinese gentleman walks into places in Wan Chai, he probably will be treated the same way I was treated in Chinese men territory!

Be Safe and don't be a bigot,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Kycock]Last night I decided to stop by the bar at the Holiday INN in Kowloon TST area. I was quite surprised. Th place was crawling with lovely ladied. They were working the floor, going guy to guy starting with small talk and asking to go somewhere pivate. I decided on a very nice African lady from New Guinny. I could have Chineese, Japaneese, Rusian, or European. They all seemed to work together. A Korean lady aproached me first, but I told her she want my type. [/QUOTE]If you can do me a big favor, go back tonight (Friday is the best night of the week at Hari's) and tell the Korean and Japanese chicks to wait for me. I'll be back 1st week December! Seriously.

Thanks

NB. No need to road test for me, I like surprises.

[QUOTE=Kycock]Last night I decided to stop by the bar at the Holiday INN in Kowloon TST area. I was quite surprised. Th place was crawling with lovely ladied.

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Thanks for report. Does anyone know of action at Holiday Inn or Hyatt Wanchai - or - Hyatt Tsim Shi? About which bar and at what time.
I haven't read many reports re: Hotel girls.
I will try out Hotels soon and report back.


Cheers Nickc

[QUOTE=Nickc]Thanks for report. Does anyone know of action at Holiday Inn or Hyatt Wanchai - or - Hyatt Tsim Shi? About which bar and at what time.

I haven't read many reports re: Hotel girls.

I will try out Hotels soon and report back.

Cheers Nickc[/QUOTE]Hari's Bar at the Holiday Inn is quite unique. The bar is in the middle of the room instead of against a wall so easy to make "eye contact" across the bar. There is a band at one end that actually shuts up in between breaks (Neptune's music seems almost louder when the band stops) and there is a lounge area where you can sit for a quite chat. Almost like the perfect place.

The toilets are located out near the elevator so you can have a discrete chat if necessary, if you are staying at the Holiday Inn you can even slip up to your room without anyone knowing what you're up to. Seriously, they layout is perfect.

Always a good cross section of working girls, they seem to come in tour groups and so there is a bunch of one kind plus a mix of others but come back a few weeks later and it's all "new".

On the down side... drinks are expensive, pretty girls are expensive, you will usually (I say usually) have problems getting less than HK$1,000 for ST. I have seen guys pay HK$2,000 - $3,000 often which can make it tough for everyone else. You can sometimes get a good deal if you are staying at the hotel, but then the girl is tempted to run back down stairs for a double header.

The Chin Chin bar at the original TST Hyatt was a good place to find WG but since that went I am not sure of others. I haven't been to the new Hyatt or the HI on Hong Kong side yet so not sure of the set up.

Sticky Fingers on Mody Road in TST East (opposite the Royal Garden Hotel) is good for a Wan Chai style experience in Kowloon.

[QUOTE=Kycock]...Holiday INN in Kowloon TST area. I was quite surprised. Th place was crawling with lovely ladied. They were working the floor, going guy to guy starting with small talk and asking to go somewhere pivate. I decided on a very nice African lady from New Guinny.[/QUOTE]

So where is she from? Is she African from Guinea or Melanesian from Papua New Guinea?

[QUOTE=Apac Man]As a general rule, I try not to play in HK for various reasons. However I was in Mong Kok a few days ago and just a spit throw away from 8MK and decided to pay them a visit. The last time I had been to a yellow sign was more than 3 years ago somewhere by Ladies Market.

I walked up and a younger man was waiting for me at top of the stairs. He walked me to a waiting room and asked if I wanted anything special and I replied no. He left and a few minutes later there was a knock on the door and he walked in with a cute young girl. The girl looked at me and muttered in Mandarin "He is not Chinese" and he replied harshly "Shut up!" and she said something that I did not understand and made a face! Okay! We are off to a great start! She motioned for me to follow her and we went up two floors and she opened a door and yelled something and I just understood the word foreigner and a female voice answers back with a chuckle. She motioned toward the end of hallway and I walked to the end into an okay room. It was not Ritz but it looked clean! White clean sheet on the bed and decent lighting and a clean looking shower area to the side. Then I hear her yelling and comes to the door and says "No! No!" and motion for me to follow her! We go back half way down the hallway and she stops and opens a door. I walk in and was shocked! Dim lights, a bed with red plastic covered mattress, paper tissues all over the floor, an almost full ashtray and a pack of cigarette on the bed, one dirty pillow, a filthy shower with mildewy walls and a stanch to top it off.

I turned and said no and walked out and she shrugged her shoulders and said "okay"! Just like that! I walked down and the man was surprised to see me. He got up and said "Wait, I get you another" and I just kept walking...

Can not complain much though. If a Chinese gentleman walks into places in Wan Chai, he probably will be treated the same way I was treated in Chinese men territory!

Be Safe and don't be a bigot,

APAC Man[/QUOTE]

Sorry to hear about your troubles. You don't often get that from girls in Hong Kong not wanting to go with gweilos but then again 8MK gets girls just turned 18 or 19 from out in the countryside that are pretty naive.

In general, other than some language issues, Mongkok is a place where gweilos are pretty well accepted, and certainly much better accepted by the girls than most girls accept Chinese guys in Wan Chai.

As for 8MK the place is a disgusting dump and I will never go back. Unless you really want to have an 18 year old and do not want to pay up for it the place should be avoided. I think it is by far the most disgusting walk up that I have been in around the Mong Kok area. And I mean by far, nothing else has come close to its poor level of hygiene and cleanliness. My guess is the nice room you walked into was the girl's "dorm" room, the pigsty was were she does the deed.

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]Sorry to hear about your troubles. You don't often get that from girls in Hong Kong not wanting to go with gweilos but then again 8MK gets girls just turned 18 or 19 from out in the countryside that are pretty naive.

In general, other than some language issues, Mongkok is a place where gweilos are pretty well accepted, and certainly much better accepted by the girls than most girls accept Chinese guys in Wan Chai.

As for 8MK the place is a disgusting dump and I will never go back. Unless you really want to have an 18 year old and do not want to pay up for it the place should be avoided. I think it is by far the most disgusting walk up that I have been in around the Mong Kok area. And I mean by far, nothing else has come close to its poor level of hygiene and cleanliness. My guess is the nice room you walked into was the girl's "dorm" room, the pigsty was were she does the deed.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Rick,

I am not sure if it makes a difference but she was not from around these area since she spoke Mandarin and as you know with the exception of Shenzhen, most around here speak Cantonese.

As far as "gweilos" being accepted in Mong Kok, I have had mixed reactions a few years back when I did a lil bit of play here. Just as an example, as I left 8MK, I kept walking and went through night market and up in front of me was a few tourists that couldn't be any more European looking and they were a lot younger than I and in god shape and behind them was an older Chinese gentleman and then me and these guys and I were totally ignored bye the SW and mamasans sitting around but they were calling after the Chinese gentleman and even one girl grabbed his arm and started walking with him trying to hook him. But as I said, I tried the yellow sign on the ladies market a few times and as much dumpy as it was, the service and quality were above average.

And BTW, there were a couple really hot ones at night market that night though not teenage young like 8MK.

Thanks again and be safe,

APAC Man

The 'pleasure island' is located in WooSung Street off of Jordan. The total damage was $400 on the lady and $110 on the hotel room. The alloted time is 45 mins. The mama will show one girl at a time and you can have your pick. You can pay for two session with the same girl if you like, but 45 mins is usually enough.

I picked Sammy, a cute girl with light complexion and no implant. She held my hand and led me to the hotel room with a shower. She acted as though she was my girlfriend the whole session. A lot of hugging and sweet smile. The shower on the beach floater was out of this world. We must have spent half the time in the shower. I totally enjoyed the light massage, the licking and the gentle caressing of my rear. Of course, there was the BBBJ.

More BBBJ when we were in bed. She screamed very loud during the intercourse. That was quite interesting.

I have been mongering on information on 141 and 161. Honestly, I don't want to do those again. Not after this. I am very satisfied and it was a very good experience. I highly recommend that to my fellow commarades.

Monday night I was in Shanghai and went to Tongren Lu, as I hear it will close soon. (The entire street) and wanted one last turn around the block. I ran into a Filipina gal ( yeah I know surprise right) and she was pretty chatty. She wasn't really my type, but we talked for a while, there wasn't much else going on for her and I think she figured she had a chance to hook me anyway.
Seems this young lass has been around to all the places that most Filipina gals go, Singapore, HK, Shanghai, Macau, etc. She was asking me questions about Dubai, since she hadn't been there to work yet. I was asking her where she went in Wanchai, since I hadn't recalled seeing her and she told me that she didn't go to Wanchai much, but worked in Kowloon at the Holiday Inn, and she said there is also an Irish bar (another big surprise) up the street that is good. I asked why Kowloon, and she said there is less competition from other Filipinas and she can make more money. When I asked her what she charged she said around 2000 for LT. I laughed and said I would stay in Wanchai, and then asked what she usually really got and it was still 3-400 HKD more than Wanchai and I suspect that she doesn't have to work as hard to hook one in Kowloon. This gal had a great personality and a cute figure, but she wouldn't stand out in a crowd until you started talking to her. I will admit the longer we talked the more attractive she became. She also said that she sometimes goes to a place in LKF called "C" bar I think, but I think that was as much to have some fun as hope to find a client. She said that a few of the working girls like to go to LKF, just to try to see if they can pick up a guy in a non P4P situation and get a few drinks. They also like to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the "white girls" on their own territory. This caused a hearty laugh from me.
She also said that the Veneitian in Macau was a great place on Wed. nights as it was ladies night and there are a ton of gals that come out, I didn't ask if they were P4P or "normal" but got the impression it was a mix. I think she said the bars in the Hyatt in Macau got some action, but that might be the wrong place as it was loud at that moment.
Anyway, it was fun to hear about good locations from her perspective, and too her credit she was willing to deal on her price, but I had my sights set on a little Viet number in a red dress....
I did buy her a couple of drinks and off I went in pursuit, the cool think was the next day the Filipina gal sent me a sms and said thanks for the drinks and the chat, I hope to see you again. I thought this was a nice marketing tool and may look her up when she comes to HK...just to try something different.
You just never know where you can get good information!!

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]she told me that she didn't go to Wanchai much, but worked in Kowloon at the Holiday Inn, and she said there is also an Irish bar (another big surprise) up the street that is good.[/QUOTE]Up the street Nathan Rd? Or Mody Rd? do you know the name of the Irish Bar? I think there is one on Nathan a few doors down toward the Sheraton. There is also one on Peking across the round and around the corner a little. Any idea which?

[QUOTE=Kycock]Last night I decided to stop by the bar at the Holiday INN in Kowloon TST area. I was quite surprised. Th place was crawling with lovely ladied. They were working the floor, going guy to guy starting with small talk and asking to go somewhere pivate.........[/QUOTE]
Good report!
Where do you retire with the lady, if you are not staying at the Holiday Inn!

I stopped by a few weeks ago and the choices were limited, and old. To me it was much better in the past.

[QUOTE=Daddy San]Good report!

Where do you retire with the lady, if you are not staying at the Holiday Inn![/QUOTE]

Hi,

I'm staying in HK for 3 nights in Feb. Where would you stay to be near to the best action - I assume Wanchai? Prepared to spend £80/90 per night, but would obviously prefer less. A colleague recommended the Cosmopolitan. what do you guys think?

Back there the following week and wanted to head over to Macau. Is it worth it? Should I stay there for a couple of days before heading back?

Many thanks,

Peter

[QUOTE=Heymikey]I stopped by a few weeks ago and the choices were limited, and old. To me it was much better in the past.[/QUOTE]
This is a good example of a totally useless answer.

I few weeks ago we has a shor discussion about a place in the night market that sold outfits and a line of fun toys at prices resonable to acquire an arnersal. These "rabbits" and the sexy outfits to be used in the battle to coral the female orgasm and also interject a little fun into process. I cannot find the post, even whit what is obviously a feeble attempt. Any body that could help me the location if the night market, I would the info appreciate it a lot. And what are the approximate times of operation of the vendors?


Thanks to all.

Sky

[QUOTE=Petertaylor]Hi,

I'm staying in HK for 3 nights in Feb.
Back there the following week and wanted to head over to Macau. Is it worth it? Should I stay there for a couple of days before heading back?

Many thanks,

Peter[/QUOTE]Macau is more worth "overnight" :) Certainly there are things to be visited daytime, but if you want to enjoy the Macau' sauna, you should account visits after sunset:) Even if saunas are open 24hrs a day.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]I few weeks ago we has a shor discussion about a place in the night market that sold outfits and a line of fun toys at prices resonable to acquire an arnersal. These "rabbits" and the sexy outfits to be used in the battle to coral the female orgasm and also interject a little fun into process. I cannot find the post, even whit what is obviously a feeble attempt. Any body that could help me the location if the night market, I would the info appreciate it a lot. And what are the approximate times of operation of the vendors?
Thanks to all.
Sky[/QUOTE]

maybe this post can help you:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=928738&highlight=shop#post928738[/url]
As usual... RTFF:) I actually did a search on the word "shop"

Try the Empire Hotel in Wanchai. You should get it for 60 or 70 euros. It's a very good location and I think it's good value in HK. The Cosmopolitan is ok too, but I prefer Empire.

Re: Macau. It depends. If you're only in the region for a 4 or 5 days, I wouldn't. But if you're there longer then yes it's worth a visit.


[QUOTE=Petertaylor]Hi,

I'm staying in HK for 3 nights in Feb. Where would you stay to be near to the best action - I assume Wanchai? Prepared to spend £80/90 per night, but would obviously prefer less. A colleague recommended the Cosmopolitan. what do you guys think?

Back there the following week and wanted to head over to Macau. Is it worth it? Should I stay there for a couple of days before heading back?

Many thanks,

Peter[/QUOTE]

Could also try Novotel Wanchai or the Wharney. Both GF as are most HK hotels.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]maybe this post can help you:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=928738&highlight=shop#post928738[/url]
As usual... RTFF:) I actually did a search on the word "shop"[/QUOTE]


I knew the opportunity to post a RTFF would be too hard to pass up, but your point is well taken. I actually did a search, but didnt get the result I hoped, hince the request for help which you so graciously provided.
I look forward to the opportunity to provide additional information to members of this board and maybe in the future you will also glean a nugget from one of my postings.
Until then I hope you continue to be afforded the deference that you have earned being a senior member of the group.

[QUOTE=Petertaylor]Hi,

I'm staying in HK for 3 nights in Feb. Where would you stay to be near to the best action - I assume Wanchai? Prepared to spend £80/90 per night, but would obviously prefer less. A colleague recommended the Cosmopolitan. what do you guys think?

Back there the following week and wanted to head over to Macau. Is it worth it? Should I stay there for a couple of days before heading back?

Many thanks,

Peter[/QUOTE]Empire or Metro park is good choice .

Molton

Thanks guys.

Novotel looks good.

What about the Holiday Inn on Nathan Rd? Is that the one that gets all the girls in the bar? Has anyone stayed there?

Peter

I know that regal hotel in Kowloon are swarming with girls because of it's location to one of the largest KTV's in Hong Kong nearby the hotel. I often time see many girls in the bars, and restaurants late at night when the WG get off from their KTV shifts.

But the bars are not like the bars you see in wanchai to pick up on filipino girls. I think this area is mostly for guys who want to go to KTV's to pick up on hot mainland girls. And boy! these girls from the KTV are HOT! I guess the creme de la creme goes to HK KTV's for top dollars i suppose.


AsnDragon


[QUOTE=Petertaylor]Thanks guys.

Novotel looks good.

What about the Holiday Inn on Nathan Rd? Is that the one that gets all the girls in the bar? Has anyone stayed there?

Peter[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]I few weeks ago we has a shor discussion about a place in the night market that sold outfits and a line of fun toys at prices resonable to acquire an arnersal. These "rabbits" and the sexy outfits to be used in the battle to coral the female orgasm and also interject a little fun into process. I cannot find the post, even whit what is obviously a feeble attempt. Any body that could help me the location if the night market, I would the info appreciate it a lot. And what are the approximate times of operation of the vendors?


Thanks to all.

Sky[/QUOTE]

Hi Sky,

Here is my post about the uniforms:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=929880#post929880[/url]

The uniform place is right at the start of night marketon the left on Temple St.

Be safe,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=AsnDragon]I know that regal hotel in Kowloon are swarming with girls because of it's location to one of the largest KTV's in Hong Kong nearby the hotel. I often time see many girls in the bars, and restaurants late at night when the WG get off from their KTV shifts.

But the bars are not like the bars you see in wanchai to pick up on filipino girls. I think this area is mostly for guys who want to go to KTV's to pick up on hot mainland girls. And boy! these girls from the KTV are HOT! I guess the creme de la creme goes to HK KTV's for top dollars i suppose.


AsnDragon[/QUOTE]

About a year ago we went to a KTV in CP and I ended up with a really hot girl who also spoke English and I took her back upstairs to my room for the night. She told me that once every 2-3 weeks thy get shipped to TST to work at KTVs that caters to Japanese and she "might" be available some nights freelancing after she is done at KTV and the maybe depends on many factors including how protective is the manager and how long the leash is for that trip and she gave me the dates of next trip. I SMS her a few times during that week and the answer was always "sorry busy"! I called her a week later when I knew she was back in CP and she said the manager watched the like a hawk the entire time they were in HK.

In any case, this is one story about one girl and it may not be the same with all of them and as far as I know, she could have lied about the whole thing.

Be safe,

APAC Man

My thanks to all u quality posters, appreciate APEC man's pm to me re Singapore, very helpful, I don't post that much these days but when I do, hopefully I can contribute something and think this might help a few folks out.

just finished nice session with English speaking KK here in Wanchai, inside Sun Kai Mansion, next to Circle K.

Found via seems like good site, here on biz so not as much time to spend on mongering as would like, Hong Kong a great place though

[url]http://forum.******.com/eforum/[/url] seems a nice site and found as KK has an advertisement for 450 HK on, if time allows , I will investigate, believe I am artfartzdaily on that site FYI or will be.

This is the ad I found under Wanchai,

[url]http://www.******.com/en/search.php?region=19&building=15[/url]

This is the link I found her on, picked up a cheap smartphone dual sim card, quad band grey market Iphone clone from same side of road down maybe 2 blocks got phone activated called her as she advertises she speaks English, she is originally from Hong Kong and her English is very good.

Did try several other girls @ this location from ad, and this is around 1 pm in the afternoon in Hong Kong , lunch time when I called, couple #'s got Chinese answer machines so left message , tried KK's # , reached her, she spoke English, so am staying within 2 blocks of also on Hennessey, had passed the place by several times going to Wanchai computer bazaar, so new exactly where place was, DIDN"T know what it was and part of building has other business uses.

Guard on first floor at first couldn't understand me, but eventually we communicated, there are 2 elevators , take the elevator on the right to the 4th floor, turn right, walk a few steps and see a white curtain covering entrance to a hall, this is the place, she is first door on right, there are a couple other gals , each has her own little one bedroom place.

She asked me for no money right away, got down to business pretty quick, she gave me a great massage both B4 and after. I have been with nicer looking gals but she is damn good, very attentive I leave Wed and may stop back for another Session as so close to my hotel.

She has soft , oriental type music playing in background, clean, a good attitude, wants to please, very nice tongue.

She told me about a 141 place in Kowloon where I am headed next to see Walled City, she stated tons of girls in Fuji Building @ 381 Lockhard Rd, if I regain some strength back may tackle this afternoon

Name : K K
Addr : Room A, Flat C, 4/F, Sun Kai Mansion, 38-46 Hennessy Rd., Wan Chai .

Tel : 6223 2715 (Plx Make Appointment After 20:00)
Hour : 12:00-00:00 (Public Holiday Off)
Height : 5'5"
Size : 34C-24-34
Race : Local (Cantonese, English)
Service : HK$ 450
Review : Passion & Wild, Well-rounded breast,
Hottest in town by her attentive service.~

Appreciate much this forum. Jackson a good man, hope you can make to Punta Del Este sometime when I am there and maybe I come to BA next year.
Hong Kong and Singapore not in recessions doing real well.

Art Fartzalot

[QUOTE=Apac Man]Hi Sky,

Here is my post about the uniforms:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=929880#post929880[/url]

The uniform place is right at the start of night marketon the left on Temple St.

Be safe,

APAC Man[/QUOTE]


Thanks Apac

[QUOTE=AsnDragon]
But the bars are not like the bars you see in wanchai to pick up on filipino girls. I think this area is mostly for guys who want to go to KTV's to pick up on hot mainland girls. And boy! these girls from the KTV are HOT! I guess the creme de la creme goes to HK KTV's for top dollars i suppose.

AsnDragon[/QUOTE]

Yes there are many real hotties at the KTV's in East TST but your top dollar comment is correct. They are very pricey and you are lucky if you can find a girl with decent english, unless they give you a flipper in which case you might as well be in Wan Chai. It is an experience worth trying on occassion but be prepared for your wallet to be significantly lighter or better yet go when it can be expensed. By inlarge I would not recommend it for the average punter. If you've got lots of money then it can be OK.

For the money one is better off going to Macau.

Hi to all peoples,

How is situation of escape? Old fenwick?

How is girl? Full? Empty?

With internationsl crisis how is average prices ST AND LT?

Prices are cut or not?

How is situtation at N2,

Which is best place quality and prices?

Thanks

Xmen6900

Apac,

You are right! I once had a girl who has one of those visitor's visa to come to HK every month or something. Basically her Boss has to watch her like a hawk. Supposedly, they pay for her Visa fees and they are responsible to house her and driver her to each appointment with each monger. They even give them a time frame in which they have to finish off the guy in, usually 30-40 mins. They watch them like a hawk because they usually only come to HK for 7 days or 10 days so they want to completely maximize their money while the girl is here. Make sure that the girl is not freelancing on the side, while the are left out of getting a cut of her freelancing.

AsnDragon


[QUOTE=Apac Man]About a year ago we went to a KTV in CP and I ended up with a really hot girl who also spoke English and I took her back upstairs to my room for the night. She told me that once every 2-3 weeks thy get shipped to TST to work at KTVs that caters to Japanese and she "might" be available some nights freelancing after she is done at KTV and the maybe depends on many factors including how protective is the manager and how long the leash is for that trip and she gave me the dates of next trip. I SMS her a few times during that week and the answer was always "sorry busy"! I called her a week later when I knew she was back in CP and she said the manager watched the like a hawk the entire time they were in HK.

In any case, this is one story about one girl and it may not be the same with all of them and as far as I know, she could have lied about the whole thing.

Be safe,

APAC Man[/QUOTE]

Rick,

Yeah i would love to go to Macau to experience the KTV there. I've experienced it everywhere else but Macau. Some of my friends say...if you want the prettiest girls...follow where the money's at...and apparently Macau is the place with lots of money flowing into that place.

I believe that any monger should experience some high class excitement once in a long while. We can't always end up doing the cheaper venues all the time, variety is the only thing that keeps things fresh.

In Wan Chai, i heard it's pretty easy to get some Filipino or South East Asian there, but I'm just more turned on by China girls. i don't see many Chinese walkers in Wan Chai or at the Bars...they are mostly filipinos from my experience.


AsnDragon

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]Yes there are many real hotties at the KTV's in East TST but your top dollar comment is correct. They are very pricey and you are lucky if you can find a girl with decent english, unless they give you a flipper in which case you might as well be in Wan Chai. It is an experience worth trying on occassion but be prepared for your wallet to be significantly lighter or better yet go when it can be expensed. By inlarge I would not recommend it for the average punter. If you've got lots of money then it can be OK.

For the money one is better off going to Macau.[/QUOTE]

Art,


I'm glad that you had a good time with KK. Perhaps you seem to have better luck than me. But 7 out of 10 times I go visit 141 girls, I always get a girl that I feel that not to my liking. Perhaps it's because I have high expectations, but I'm just more use to girls being young below the age of 24. But every time i got see a 141 girl (apartment ones, NOT hotel ones), they are always 30+ years old. Sure there are great looking girls even at 30, but it's just not the same. When they get to be in their 30's their skin looses it's elasticity and over all they just don't look all that fit and attractive.

I have similar experience going to those Sauna places in HK as well. I went to Victoria Sauna in Causeway, Sands Sauna in Jordan or Mongkok, can't remember and many more. 4 out of 5 times, all the women who work there are just old. I sometimes stop and ask myself why I'm doing this in HK, when in China there's tons of younger and prettier girls to choose from.

The only good experience so far is 141 girls with Hotel Reservations. I'm more satisfied with those girls as they tend to be prettier and younger. However, once again there's a downfall...they always try to rush the service they give you.

Nothing's perfect, I'll try anything once. But still seeking for new and unexplored territories in HK that I haven't been to yet that perhaps might be good potential experiences.

[QUOTE=Art Fartzalot]My thanks to all u quality posters, appreciate APEC man's pm to me re Singapore, very helpful, I don't post that much these days but when I do, hopefully I can contribute something and think this might help a few folks out.

just finished nice session with English speaking KK here in Wanchai, inside Sun Kai Mansion, next to Circle K.

Found via seems like good site, here on biz so not as much time to spend on mongering as would like, Hong Kong a great place though

[url]http://forum.******.com/eforum/[/url] seems a nice site and found as KK has an advertisement for 450 HK on, if time allows , I will investigate, believe I am artfartzdaily on that site FYI or will be.

This is the ad I found under Wanchai,

[url]http://www.******.com/en/search.php?region=19&building=15[/url]

This is the link I found her on, picked up a cheap smartphone dual sim card, quad band grey market Iphone clone from same side of road down maybe 2 blocks got phone activated called her as she advertises she speaks English, she is originally from Hong Kong and her English is very good.

Did try several other girls @ this location from ad, and this is around 1 pm in the afternoon in Hong Kong , lunch time when I called, couple #'s got Chinese answer machines so left message , tried KK's # , reached her, she spoke English, so am staying within 2 blocks of also on Hennessey, had passed the place by several times going to Wanchai computer bazaar, so new exactly where place was, DIDN"T know what it was and part of building has other business uses.

Guard on first floor at first couldn't understand me, but eventually we communicated, there are 2 elevators , take the elevator on the right to the 4th floor, turn right, walk a few steps and see a white curtain covering entrance to a hall, this is the place, she is first door on right, there are a couple other gals , each has her own little one bedroom place.

She asked me for no money right away, got down to business pretty quick, she gave me a great massage both B4 and after. I have been with nicer looking gals but she is damn good, very attentive I leave Wed and may stop back for another Session as so close to my hotel.

She has soft , oriental type music playing in background, clean, a good attitude, wants to please, very nice tongue.

She told me about a 141 place in Kowloon where I am headed next to see Walled City, she stated tons of girls in Fuji Building @ 381 Lockhard Rd, if I regain some strength back may tackle this afternoon

Name : K K
Addr : Room A, Flat C, 4/F, Sun Kai Mansion, 38-46 Hennessy Rd., Wan Chai .

Tel : 6223 2715 (Plx Make Appointment After 20:00)
Hour : 12:00-00:00 (Public Holiday Off)
Height : 5'5"
Size : 34C-24-34
Race : Local (Cantonese, English)
Service : HK$ 450
Review : Passion & Wild, Well-rounded breast,
Hottest in town by her attentive service.~

Appreciate much this forum. Jackson a good man, hope you can make to Punta Del Este sometime when I am there and maybe I come to BA next year.
Hong Kong and Singapore not in recessions doing real well.

Art Fartzalot[/QUOTE]

I normally have a great time when visiting Hong Kong but this time I strayed.

Heading for 37 Dundas Street I found a place in Portland Street with a big hand written sign about how great their selection was.

Turned out to be a small cramped and run down place. One girl took my eye so I paid HK$350 and was dissapointed. Without her sexy dress she was skinny and with strech marks.

The action was uninspiring with no GFE at all. So never again there.

Next trip, back to where I know I will get quality such as 37D

Greetings All,

Have read and searched the forum and have found tons of info. Just looking for any recent updates on happy massage places as well as locations in Wan Chai.

Many thanks.

Hi guys. I am passing through Hong Kong in a couple weeks. I previuosly had a 22 hour layover (two years ago)and got a room at the Empire and had great time at Neptunes and enjoyed the little Philipino girl I met there. Thanks for all the tips. This trip however; I only have an 8 1/2 hour layover and its from 5:30am until 2:00pm. So not much time and some pretty lousy hours. Is there any action going on around the 7:00am to 11:30am time frame? Are the bars open at this time? Is there a reasonable hotel thats worth getting a room for only about 4 hours in the Wan Chi area, ecspecially at this time of day? What do you all recommend?

The Chemist Dude

After a long-haul flight I still could not wait to get back into the Wanchai area, and being impatient, hit the road too early. At 10.30pm Amazonia was very quiet although it never has been in the same league as N2 or the old Fenwicks (now Escape) for finding freelancers. The band is (and has always been) good however. A visit to nearby Borocay and the usual rush of pushy young girls meets you at the bar. Still too early to make a selection but I got the phone number of a cute flipper called An who might be worth a second look. On then to my favourite place – Escape. Still quiet but the usual selection and a lot of Viets now. The viets are certainly better looking than most (IMHO) but previous reports would indicate they are very money orientated (I know they all are but some show it less) so this puts me off but it certainly does not stop them from pushing themselves forward. I have said often before – you can’t fail in here. The problem is getting a few minutes to yourself! I like the place even better than the old Fenwicks and now there is a smoking ban, its even better. Beer is expensive compared to others – HK$55 a bottle
On to Neptunes – getting busy (Tuesdays are “quiet” nights). Not much talent around but plenty variety including African (not my scene). Again – you don’t get a minute to yourself.
Then on to Galaxy – not everyone’s favourite place as it is never as busy as the other places but I have had good hunting there before. By this time the dreaded drink is kicking in and I get caught buying too many lady drinks. I learned later that there is a small group of about 6 girls who will promise the earth when you are buying them drinks but when the time comes to leave they are not interested. So - beware – strike the deal earlier than later or it might cost you. I also was asked to pay for a round I had not ordered (HK$414) Luckily I know the bar managers from being a regular in the past and the drink was taken back. Then bumped into a girl I knew from the past (flipper called Enri) but had never taken out and within a few minutes she and I were off. No mention of money and she certainly showed me she was glad to see me. To think I missed her out before. HK$600 for the night was good value. No sooner had she left about 5.00am when Marissa (flipper) called me at 8.00am. She wanted to see me. When I asked. In 20 minutes. Sure enough she turns up at the door and wasted no time in telling me she wants to f….Marissa is now the wrong side of 35 but still a good grind. A few dollars for her taxi and she was off to work with a smile on her face – she is a HK resident now but she floats about the clubs for extra cash.
Wednesday night comes and commonsense prevails – don’t go out until about 11.30pm. Escape and Neptunes jumping and really busy. Plenty girls available but in Neptunes Tricia (about 24 years) from Thailand turned my head – she was just leaving when I literally bumped into her. Very nice smile, face and a good body – black minis turn me on as well. I don’t like to jump into bed with complete strangers so suggested we go for a drink first. Went to Amazonia – packed at 3.00am- where she had a glass of wine. She would be an 8 in my book and I am difficult to please. A request for HK$2000 for the night was quickly batted into touch and we agreed HK$1000 LT – I never pay more than this.
Got back to the hotel and it was downhill all the way – can I be paid now? The answer was the usual “No”. No kissing and very reluctant to allow fingering. DATY was a problem for her but she got over her initial reticence and seemed to quite like it as the night worn on. I get put off when there is no kissing although she did come round a bit later when she got into the swing of things. The usual positions and I had to clear her out about 7.00am – I was knackered. Would I repeat? No.
Its Thursday now and my old friend that I will call Miss M that I met (and fell in love with) a couple of years ago phones. Can she see me? No problem – arrives at the hotel early afternoon and I ask her to go at 8.00pm having had an unbelievable afternoon. I’m a friend now, not a customer, so no payment but I give her taxi fare with a bit extra. She only goes to Galaxy and if anyone is interested pm me for details. Treat her well - she deserves it. She is now 35 but does not look it (none of them do) so if you are into younger girls she is not for you. Incidentally at 35 she could easily be my daughter.
‘
Im in the Charterhouse Hotel which I use regularly. I have seen a lot of requests for hotel information lately. Charterhouse is difficult to beat – its handy – only a 10minute walk to Wanchai and HK$18 in a taxi on the way back.
Im going easy tonight – totally washed out. Thank God for vit V.

[QUOTE=Chemist Dude]This trip however; I only have an 8 1/2 hour layover and its from 5:30am until 2:00pm. So not much time and some pretty lousy hours. [/QUOTE]

In Wanchai, you'll want to go to Bridge which is on Lockhart Road past Mes Amis. Things get going there around 5:00/5:30 and the place gets wild.

There are two short time hotels down the street from Bridge, Ming Court and Villa Victoria ~ about a three and five minute walk, same side of the street, walking towards the overpass (i.e. head left out of Bridge).

Mongkok you'd get a bunch of yellow sign places still open at that time - I like the one that's up by the Metropark Hotel by the Prince Edward MTR station, but there are lots around. About $380 for 45 minutes.

I needed a visa run out of mainland China this weekend, and found that hotel prices in HK were up 2-3x over their typical rates. Is something happening this weekend, or is that a seasonal thing?

I realized that I could spend an entire week in AC for what I could spend in 2 days in HK (once you combine travel, hotel, food, drinks, and ladies), so I'm AC bound.

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]I needed a visa run out of mainland China this weekend, and found that hotel prices in HK were up 2-3x over their typical rates. Is something happening this weekend, or is that a seasonal thing?

I realized that I could spend an entire week in AC for what I could spend in 2 days in HK (once you combine travel, hotel, food, drinks, and ladies), so I'm AC bound.[/QUOTE]

Well, there is Grand Prix in Macau and that's about it! Asian games does not start till Dec.

Be safe,

APAC Man

[QUOTE=Apac Man]Well, there is Grand Prix in Macau and that's about it! Asian games does not start till Dec.[/QUOTE]
The Grand Prix is plenty to cause the jump in prices, of everything!

I'm joined by 4 colleagues who have never been to HK before. We head for Escape at about 11.00pm. Place is jumping. They think they have landed in heaven. Talent abounds and its not long before they are all experiencing the rubbing from the girls and all that is associated. Some nice - some not so nice. Then onto Neptunes - they could not believe it. Place is packed and as soon as they are in they are accosted. The African sector (right hand side of the bar) is in full swing.

Then onto Amazonia - place is packed and jumping - they cannot believe it. The bands in all 3 places were out of this world, particularly in Escape. Kept to my game plan - nobody tonight because of the state I'm in. Got a few numbers however. Jhovie (flipper) looks a good bet and might try tomorrow pm. By this time I have lost my mates but when I last saw them they were having a good time.

Got home (by myself) at 5.00am. Lots of SW on the go in Wanchai and those wanting to give you a massage. I was accosted by several Mongolians. Very persistant but not for me. HK$200!! Hard to believe. Needless to say I did not take them up on that.

[QUOTE=AsnDragon]I sometimes stop and ask myself why I'm doing this in HK, when in China there's tons of younger and prettier girls to choose from.

But still seeking for new and unexplored territories in HK that I haven't been to yet that perhaps might be good potential experiences.[/QUOTE]

I never stop to ask myself this because I never do the the 141s and the saunas.
I'd also never want to be seen with a flipper, Thais (also too masculine & hairy for my taste) and the Indos (who are the same as the flippers, slightly mental when they are overseas). I only send for them.

What I have found and am continuing to discover is the sexting scene in Hong Kong. Here you find young HK girls that will blow you in your car, let you molest them ("auto-roaming" for Singaporeans) and sometimes fuck you for under 500. Cheap! Only problem is that it's unreliable - no show and no delivery.

I found a 30 year-old "office lady" (the typical HK ice dragon b1tch) that works for a logistics (what else?) company offering a massage on craigs. She couches it very well, until the moment she asks for "600hkd per hour". From there, you can get her to blow you, cum in her mouth and cum in the condom in her pussy for a 1,000. Total amateur. Very, very exciting!

[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]What I have found and am continuing to discover is the sexting scene in Hong Kong. Here you find young HK girls that will blow you in your car, let you molest them ("auto-roaming" for Singaporeans) and sometimes fuck you for under 500. Cheap! Only problem is that it's unreliable - no show and no delivery.[/QUOTE]Huh? How does sexting work? Reckon I am too old.

I get an itch in the pm and phone Lyka whost phone number I got last night in Escape. She comes over within the hour - very very attractive and well dressed and turned out. I would say an 8. She is 22 years but it was obvious she really did not know what to do. A bust to die for as well. Started off slowly and quickly discovered she does not really like kissing. Thats a turn off for me. DATY drove her wild and she came round a bit on the kissing issue. Mish, doggy and cowboy were available. She was more into giving me a hand job because I could not cum. Thtats down to age, too much to drink and lack of sleep) Cost HK$600 for a couple of hours. WIR? - probably not.
I had phoned Jhovie as well but she was looking for 1500. No way and she came down to 800 but I still rejected it.
Off again at night but I am struggling badly and have a busy day tomorrow. Amazonia and Neptunes packed out at 12 midnight but I left early for a sleep. Both girls Lyka and JHove are flippers. Looked into Galaxy on the way back and spoke to Erny who I had on the first night. That place is dead. The trouble with giving and getting phone numbers is that the phone goes all night - I eventually switch it off.

Back HK again on way to NZ.

Looking for a bit of good GFE and after my last dissapointing visit to Portland Street I returned to 37D as I have never been dissapointed.

This time only 1 girl available called Chilly. I must admit I expected a choice but she was cute and friendly so I said OK and paid my HK$500 for 50 mins.

She is only small in height (normal here) and here figure is solid, not fat, more muscular.

Guys what a little sex bomb she turned out to be. The whole time was exciting and enthusiastic GFE. Just perfect for me.

I will do her again if I get the chance :)

It sounds like you had Shelly. I know it's hard to understand their names. She is quite the sex bomb, I agree. In fact she is my favorite and I will wait if I have to in order to be with her. In fact, I hope she is there this afternoon!

Gents,

While not on topic, I am sure we have some intrepid mongers here that can offer a suggestion or two.
I have a lady friend coming to the mainland to visit for a few days next week. She is a surprisingly (for me) classy gal, and the last time she said she would really like to go out for romantic dinner and some nice jazz music. This would also give her a chance to get "dressed up" for me and show off a little. All good in my book. The problem is that I don't know a good place for this type of activity in Shenzhen, so I was thinking that maybe a night in Macau might be in order, (or Hong Kong)since I figured that if it is like Vegas, there is a good chance I could find somewhere to fit the bill. I would actually prefer HK, but don't know the town well enough to suggest an suitable venue. I went back on the forum about 10 months of reports and didn't see anything, so I hope that is enough of RTFF'ing. If you have some suggestions to share, TIA, if not I hope you will pardon me for waisting bandwidth.
Thanks,
Sky
ps, I am going to post this on the Macau, and Shenzhen boards to increase the probability of success.

Dinner at Sabatini (Italian food with Romantic music)

Dancing to live music in New lounge in Basement of Peninsula Hotel then Live Jazz at Ned Kelly's

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Gents,

While not on topic, I am sure we have some intrepid mongers here that can offer a suggestion or two.

I have a lady friend coming to the mainland to visit for a few days next week. She is a surprisingly (for me) classy gal, and the last time she said she would really like to go out for romantic dinner and some nice jazz music. This would also give her a chance to get "dressed up" for me and show off a little. All good in my book. The problem is that I don't know a good place for this type of activity in Shenzhen, so I was thinking that maybe a night in Macau might be in order, (or Hong Kong)since I figured that if it is like Vegas, there is a good chance I could find somewhere to fit the bill. I would actually prefer HK, but don't know the town well enough to suggest an suitable venue. I went back on the forum about 10 months of reports and didn't see anything, so I hope that is enough of RTFF'ing. If you have some suggestions to share, TIA, if not I hope you will pardon me for waisting bandwidth.

Thanks,

Sky

Ps, I am going to post this on the Macau, and Shenzhen boards to increase the probability of success.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kobe Beef]Dinner at Sabatini (Italian food with Romantic music)

Dancing to live music in New lounge in Basement of Peninsula Hotel then Live Jazz at Ned Kelly's[/QUOTE]


Thanks Kobe, I will give one or all of them a try!!

After my last post I couldn't wait any longer and went to 37D about 2pm and was welcomed with open arms ("Hi Ba-Ba") and escorted to the waiting room. I of course immediately requested Shelly, but she wasn't available at the moment, but I chose to wait because I knew it would be worth it! I'm starting to be a victim of her success! Anyway, I settled in with a beer and watched the Miss Asia contest on TV till Shelly came in about 45 minutes later. She gave a big smile when she saw me and gave me a big hug, then we kissed while waiting for my change. Upstairs, into the 3rd floor room on on to business.

She really is a GFE-seemed like she truly missed me and was glad to see me. OK, so I can fantasize. Off came the clothes, more hugging, kissing and groping, then she got down on her knees for a fantastic BBBJ. (We didn't waste any time getting to the shower beforehand) I lay her back on the bed and gave her a great DATY until she had at least one orgasm, then I entered her in the missionary position and we stayed locked together for a good 35-40 minutes with her having several more big O's, until I loosened my load. We lay together entwined in each others arms for another 15 minutes or so, then into the shower for a quick clean-up before the phone rang.

Shelly is probably one of the best ones at 37D, at least IMHO. She is truly a GFE to the max. She may be a bit chunky, but she knows how to use her body to the fullest. And I can't give her any higher praise than that.

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[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]I get an itch in the pm and phone Lyka whost phone number I got last night in Escape. She comes over within the hour. Very very attractive and well dressed and turned out. I would say an 8. She is 22 years but it was obvious she really did not know what to do. A bust to die for as well. Started off slowly and quickly discovered she does not really like kissing. Thats a turn off for me. DATY drove her wild and she came round a bit on the kissing issue. Mish, doggy and cowboy were available. She was more into giving me a hand job because I could not cum. Thtats down to age, too much to drink and lack of sleep) Cost HK$600 for a couple of hours. WIR?. Probably not.

I had phoned Jhovie as well but she was looking for 1500. No way and she came down to 800 but I still rejected it.

Off again at night but I am struggling badly and have a busy day tomorrow. Amazonia and Neptunes packed out at 12 midnight but I left early for a sleep. Both girls Lyka and JHove are flippers. Looked into Galaxy on the way back and spoke to Erny who I had on the first night. That place is dead. The trouble with giving and getting phone numbers is that the phone goes all night. I eventually switch it off.[/QUOTE]As I am arriving at the Charterhouse for a 3-week stay in about 25 days from now, I anxiously await more reports about Wan Chai. When is the US Navy due back?

Where is Escape in relation to Neptune's II and Joe's Bananas? Is there a dress code? I usually wore khakis and sneakers into Neptune's without any problem when I was there before. No cover either.

I can't wait to get back to Wan Chai!

[QUOTE=Where is Escape in relation to Neptune's II and Joe's Bananas? Is there a dress code? I usually wore khakis and sneakers into Neptune's without any problem when I was there before. No cover either.
I can't wait to get back to Wan Chai![/QUOTE]

Escape is the old Fenwicks. The rear entrance is on the same street as Neptunes and Joe Bananas. Out of Joe Bananas, turn right and it is 100yards up the road on the left hand side. There certainly is no dress code in any of these places as far as I can see. Don't know about the navy but as they have been recently it may well be no further visit is scheduled as yet.

Its 11.00pm and I make my way to Wanchai. The bars along the road are absolutely heaving. Did not even try to get into Amazonia as the rugby scrum outside was to big and heavy for me to break through. Joe Bananas (always busy) seemed bursting at the seams, as did all the nearby bars. Headed for Escape – half empty! A visit to Escape should be on everybody's list of "things to do" if only to hear the band - fantastic. Returned to Amazonia and found the entrance. Vicky, who I met a couple of nights earlier and whose number I had could not be found – I had arranged to meet her there. Feeling shit, decided I had to return to the hotel – and this was midnight on a Saturday! On my way exchanged a few sms with Nicky and arranged for her to come and nurse my fevered brow. She had been in Amazonia all the time – I just did not see her. Cut a long story short – she failed to trap, a sure sign another customer had stepped in. Not to worry.
Sunday pm arrives and I’m feeling better – and horny. Who shall I pick from the growing number of phone numbers I have collected since arrival? I am beginning to be unable to put faces to some of the numbers – worrying. Nicky takes my fancy over Jhovie and she turns up 1 hour after the agreed time – a flipper trait. She left payment amount up to me. I was not disappointed when the doorbell went. She is not the first to turn up immaculately dressed and turned out. A body to die for and hot in bed – a good laugh and a good kisser which always turns me on. She loved DATY although an unshaven bush is slightly off-putting. No hurrying or clock-watching. Cowboy is her strength. Does anyone have the answer to condoms slipping off when inside? Its embarrassing not to mention a cause for concern from a safety point of view.

Anyway I digress – and a good 1.5 hours are spent on the job. She would not tell me how much I owed her so, being a mean bastard I part with HK$700 which she seems happy with, but with a proviso I see her later tonight for a repeat performance. We shall see.

Interestingly, she tells me she shares a room with 8 others and pays HK$60 per night. Would you believe 5 share a king size bed – sleeping across it and there is a bed above her which sleeps 3. They start of as strangers to each other. There is another room similarly laid out as well as a communal sitting room which has also bunk type beds sleeping a total of 4. One bathroom between the 20 of them. She cannot wait to go home back to her family next week although she has no kids or husband. Who can blame her. Since arrival she has had 2 customers. I make no further comment and leave you to your own thoughts on the matter. I feel a bit of a bastard.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Does anyone have the answer to condoms slipping off when inside? Its embarrassing not to mention a cause for concern from a safety point of view.[/QUOTE]Buy them in HK. They are smaller so tighter and less likely to "slide off".

Its Sunday night and I leave it until midnight before walking to Wanchai from the Charterhouse – a 7/8 minute stroll. Place looks pretty dead compared to last night.
First stop Escape – quiet. 2nd stop - HK’s fire death-trap called Traffic. My first time there –and my last. Fair selection of girls and they are like leeches as there are only a few of the opposite sex in attendance. The best would rate a 3 in my book. Springling of Africans, Cambodians and the usual flippers. Nothing to interest me and my phone contact list remains unaltered. 3rd stop Neptunes. Sometimes its hot, sometimes cold. It was only warm tonight and did not even stay for a drink. 4th stop Borocay – I have to ask why now that I think of it. It was fairly busy however and a previous aquaintance called RC spots me at the bar. She is wearing the shortest mini you can imagine – I have wider belts. She turns me on to be honest and I get a “raging” standing at the bar, I promise to phone her but there is something that tells me inside she might not be hot in bed. She continually removes my hand from her thigh when they “accidentally” touch her and when I ask why, she says “not in here”. I did have visions of her being a great grind but not tonight. I asked the cost and got the usual "its up to you" reply. I respond by saying 200 for a joke. She immediately replies that is fine - if its US$ or Euros so she has a sense of humour - and the ability to very quicky do the currency exchange mathematics.
Onto Amazonia to meet Vicky (this afternoon’s entertainment) as promised, and where she is, according to an sms about 15 minutes earlier. Cant find her and her phone is off – same story as last night I feel. Plenty others there, however, but nobody catches my eye. Back to Escape – busier than before and many to select from. Tempted by one or two but it is still early – about 2.30am. Vicky texts me – she is (back) in Amazonia maybe. (I calculate that she could have fitted in a ST at one of the local hotels). I don’t respond but make my way to Galaxy where I know Miss “M” will be, as I now have a requirement for GFE following on being not too well. Surprisingly the place is busy and I am welcomed by all like a long lost friend, including the bar manager who immediately puts up a beer. I spend some time with Miss “M”, buying her a few drinks from which I know she will profit, and leave at 3.00am. Vicky's sms about my present location goes unanswered. The GFE experience was given in spades and she has just left me at 8.30am on Monday. I reward her although I know it was a freebie. At the end of the day she is a WG and Vicky’s story (see previous report) about living conditions is still on my mind. I might be feeling a bit better but I well and truly f….d if you get my meaning.

If you need a rest from mongering, then Sunday night is the time to have it. There is always Victoria Park and Laguna if you need action in the aftermnoon. Galaxy is packed to the ceiling as well in the afternoon with Indos.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]If you need a rest from mongering, then Sunday night is the time to have it. There is always Victoria Park and Laguna if you need action in the aftermnoon. Galaxy is packed to the ceiling as well in the afternoon with Indos.[/QUOTE]From my last trip, Galaxy was primarily Indonesian lesbians or wannabe lesbians. Not many guys there and didn't look like guys were particularlly welcome. Lucky I had me an Indonesian wannaB. She wanted to watch but not do anything. Except me later. LOL

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]If you need a rest from mongering, then Sunday night is the time to have it. There is always Victoria Park and Laguna if you need action in the aftermnoon. Galaxy is packed to the ceiling as well in the afternoon with Indos.[/QUOTE]

Shame you weren't out earlier Sunday night, like upwards of 8 or 9. Makati and Laguna are heaving up until those times. Then you can have your quiet time afterwards ... with company.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]From my last trip, Galaxy was primarily Indonesian lesbians or wannabe lesbians. Not many guys there and didn't look like guys were particularlly welcome. Lucky I had me an Indonesian wannaB. She wanted to watch but not do anything. Except me later. LOL[/QUOTE]

I have been in Galaxy on a Sunday afternoon before now - hundreds of Indos packed into the place dancing away and enjoying themselves - handing over their admission tickets for a drink at the bar. None were above a 1/2 IMHO but it might be unfair to put them all in the lesbian class. Each to his own. Not my scene but I did not feel unwelcome.

No reports today - the sloth of a week has finally caught up with me - but the phone is still ringing!
Im recuperating.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]. I asked the cost and got the usual "its up to you" reply. I respond by saying 200 for a joke. She immediately replies that is fine - if its US$ or Euros so she has a sense of humour - and the ability to very quicky do the currency exchange mathematics.[/QUOTE]Jack:

Is there a ballpark what they are asking and accept for LT - ST? Any general guidelines for freelance prices right at this time in Wanchai? I will be there in a couple weeks and still am confused on pricing based on old posts.

[QUOTE=Steve 99]Jack:
Is there a ballpark what they are asking and accept for LT - ST? Any general guidelines for freelance prices right at this time in Wanchai? I will be there in a couple weeks and still am confused on pricing based on old posts.[/QUOTE]

I'm confused as well to be honest. I have formed some quite good relationships with many girls over the years and have been privy to their thought process - that is if you think they have the ability to think, but they are not daft either when it comes to working out their hourly rate. I am now finding it difficult to get even ST for less than $HK1000. In the past, you could get ST for HK$700/800. LT would be HK$1500. Obviously there are differences and you can get lower prices but I know girls who are so desperately in need of money you would think they will take any offer - but they won't. I look, on and off, for a bit of afternoon relaxation, say for an hour. Offering HK$500/600 is often met with derision and thats from girls I know. The chances of LT for HK$1000 is better nearer the end of the night when the bars are thinning out but again, there is no guarantee. By this time of course, you could have spent a fortune on drink so the overall cost evens out.

I prefer flippers gererally but from what I read and hear, other Nationalities are even more set in their ways as regards pricing - try getting a good rate from African or Viets! I have never paid more that HK$1000 for LT. Once you have developed a relationship with a girl that you might want to see again, you will probably get this price. A colleague of mine has a system whereby he takes the girl for 2 days, then takes a day off. He pays HK$2500 for 48 hours company and basically lives in his room for the duration. He never fails to get this arrangment.
I have also found out that what was originally an agreement for ST can turn into LT for the same price if you treat the girl well and give her a bit of respect and maybe promise to see her again.
Other fellow mongerers might have different views

[QUOTE=Basah]In Wanchai, you'll want to go to Bridge which is on Lockhart Road past Mes Amis. Things get going there around 5:00/5:30 and the place gets wild.

There are two short time hotels down the street from Bridge, Ming Court and Villa Victoria ~ about a three and five minute walk, same side of the street, walking towards the overpass (i.e. head left out of Bridge).

Mongkok you'd get a bunch of yellow sign places still open at that time - I like the one that's up by the Metropark Hotel by the Prince Edward MTR station, but there are lots around. About $380 for 45 minutes.[/QUOTE]Basah,

Thanks for the info. I'll let you know how it goes when I get there in a couple weeks.

I'm still under the weather but feel I have to go out. Escape is half empty and there is nothing in it that is appealing. Jhove texts me and tells me she is in Amazonia and I arrange to go round there. I meet her outside - she was making a call and you certainly can't do that inside Amazonia. I could not be bothered going in myself but I knew Jhove was keen to see me (or rather my wallet). I said I would walk back to the hotel and she should come in 10 minutes. She agrees. and the cost is very quickly agreed for a mixture of ST/LT. The reason I did not want to take her to the hotel myself was that I knew the hotel lobby would be busy with some of my colleagues in attendance and what they don't know does not harm them. It was still fairly early. Sure enough she is at my door only a minute or so after I arrived. Its a bit ironic that she tells me she says "hi" to a few of them as she had seen them earlier in the week in the bars.
We shower and, boy, does she know how to make sure I am clean. I'm still sore. The rest was a bit of a let down but it was my fault, not hers. I just was not up to it. She is a real pro and I found out she is 38 years of age, but she does not look it. Some punters like to bang away with a 21/22 year old but I don't mind the "older" women - they generally know what they are doing. (My own daughter is older). When she undresses you can tell the freshness of youth has left her. She loved her nipples being sucked and certainly was into DATY in a big way. I had to stop for fear of those through the wall complaining about the noise. We tried mish, cowboy etc but I have to admit I failed miserably. I gave her HK$1000 which was agreed and when I let her know she could go, she offered to see me one pm when I am better for HK$500. I will take her up on this. You can find her in Amazonia most nights. WIR - certainly. Very much into GFE and good company as well.

I am budgeting about $250 US per day for my 3 week stay in HK.

This time, I plan on not hitting the bars until after midnight and will clearly be looking for LT not ST.

Based on my limited adventures there in the summer, I think LT makes the girls feel more secure. And when I saw my repeat girl the 2nd time in the club, she didn't mention money (though I gave her some at the end of the 2 days she was with me).

My general sense is that a lot of the girls in Wanchai. At least the Filipinos. Are either about the LT/GFE or the selling of drinks in the bar. I just don't get the sense of their temperments being suited to finding a lot of ST business over and over.

They are certainly not dressed like SW so it's hard to imagine them surviving on ST only.

Jeez wayof, there is a much better place only 1.5hrs south of HK to spend $250 a day! Why buy an expensive import?
Regards pricing never pay more than $1000 LT two shots, can get for $600. ST $500 and difficult to get less but $400 possible, try and pack in two shots there too. Talking about flippers of course. If first one won't bargain then there are plenty more where she came from.

Why are you budgeting so much? US250/day is too much in Hong Kong, unless this also includes your hotel, meals, transportation etc.

Typical price is HKD1000 for LT/GFE, which you should be able to get for considerably less, even HKD500 LT is easily possible. In many cases, the girls can even go for free*.

Girls will ask for 2000HKD or even more, but they expect you to negotiate with them. If you accept what they ask for without bargaining, they will take you for a fool.

It is a buyers market. Take advantage of it and enjoy your time.

Don't be a BSD.

I believe Lao Tzu would disapprove of your ways.

Yellow Fever




[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I am budgeting about $250 US per day for my 3 week stay in HK.

This time, I plan on not hitting the bars until after midnight and will clearly be looking for LT not ST.

Based on my limited adventures there in the summer, I think LT makes the girls feel more secure. And when I saw my repeat girl the 2nd time in the club, she didn't mention money (though I gave her some at the end of the 2 days she was with me).

My general sense is that a lot of the girls in Wanchai. At least the Filipinos. Are either about the LT/GFE or the selling of drinks in the bar. I just don't get the sense of their temperments being suited to finding a lot of ST business over and over.

They are certainly not dressed like SW so it's hard to imagine them surviving on ST only.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chemist Dude]Hi guys. I am passing through Hong Kong in a couple weeks. I previuosly had a 22 hour layover (two years ago)and got a room at the Empire and had great time at Neptunes and enjoyed the little Philipino girl I met there. Thanks for all the tips. This trip however; I only have an 8 1/2 hour layover and its from 5:30am until 2:00pm. So not much time and some pretty lousy hours. Is there any action going on around the 7:00am to 11:30am time frame? Are the bars open at this time? Is there a reasonable hotel thats worth getting a room for only about 4 hours in the Wan Chi area, ecspecially at this time of day? What do you all recommend?

The Chemist Dude[/QUOTE]There is still lots to do and short time hotels.

The issue will be getting from/to the airport. Assuming your flight is on time you will exit the airport at 6:00-6:30. I think the trains start about 06:00. Assuming you miss the first train, you will be in Hong Kong Station by 7am. A taxi or MTR to Wanchai by 7:15.

It depends on which day of the week but most of the bars are closing by then. You can check out Laguna, Neptune, Galaxy. These places say they are open till the wee hours. On a Saturday morning that is probably true. But Bridge is quite reliable. It closes its windows about 5am for disco, and runs till 9 or 10. You can reliably find a girl there, but pick your girl by about 8:00 or they start to go home and you may be left with little choice.

There are three nearby short time hotels, all down Lockhart Road towards Causeway Bay: Ming Court, Beverly, Victora. They will all be happy to rent 1-3 hours.

You need to be back at the Airport express stop no later than noon. If you stay in Ming Court, the MTR is accross the street, you are 10 minutes from HK Station.

Wednesday was a day to mainly forget – feeling rough. Visited the usual watering holes around 12 midnight – 2.00am but found them strangely quiet, although the streets seemed busy. I'm sure there were no more than a dozen in Galaxy when I looked in (and quicky left). I would wager this place will close eventually. I got the impression guys in suits were out mainly for the beer, standing in the pavements outside the bars not really known as being pick-up places. Only my opinion. Neptunes seems to be attracting more pushy Africans these days if that’s your scene. You could eat your dinner of the arse of some of them. Retire early.

Thursday dawns and, feeling a bit better, but lazy, I call Miss M from Galaxy for room service in the afternoon. She did not disappoint and I part with HK$1000 in exchange for her looking after me for several hours. To be honest, I let her do most of the work. She can be found any night sitting at the bar in Galaxy. You will recognise her from her captivating smile but she is 35years now and with it, comes experience.
Jhovie is on her way to Macau to renew her visa (she hopes) and will be back later in the day (she hopes). Wish she had not phoned in the middle of a BBBJ with Miss M.
Nicky texts asking why I have not been around – maybe tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I am budgeting about $250 US per day for my 3 week stay in HK.

This time, I plan on not hitting the bars until after midnight and will clearly be looking for LT not ST.

Hit the bars at midnight, but don't make a deal until 2. Enjoy the ambiance of Wanchai. You'll stay at half your budget, unless of course you want a 3-way, in which case, you'll still be under budget. Cheers.

Called for one of the Japanese hotel reservation girls at 4 PM one day last week. Appears the Regal hotel in TST is where some of them are stationed. Told the lady on the phone I would be interested in meeting a couple of hours later. Business meeting lasted longer than expected. Suddenly at 730 PM a male pimp rang up and wanted to know if I was still going to meet. This is the first time that I've contacted in this manner. Have any of the bros met with the same experience. Given the economy in HK is back to normal, surprised by the proactive behavior.

Feeling slightly better I venture out to Wanchai just after midnight. Escape is the first stop but it is not busy and there is plenty room to move about. Immediately accosted by Huong from Vietnam who has just arrived off the boat today and latches on like a leach. Right to the point, she offers her services for HK$2000, which promptly falls to HK$1000 when she senses my rejection. Very attractive but I’m not really interested - she puts her number into my phone – 61421834 if you are interested. I make my way to Neptunes – its heaving and I spot potential sitting at the bar but try as I may, I can’t get the vibes from her. Jhovie texts me – she has returned from Macau but has been refused entry and sent back to Macau. She has no money. Can I help? She paid a lawyer guy HK$2200 to guarantee her to Macau and back so it did not work. Pity as I have been promised a freebie. It may seem hard but its not my problem although I feel sorry for her. All her belongings are in HK. I know of plenty of girls where this has happened before. It’s a hard life. Miss M from Galaxy also texts me to say she has heard of Jhovie’s plight.
Make my way to a packed Amazonia and meet Nicky who has a new flipper friend with her. Well, if you shared a bed with 5 others you would soon make friends (or enemies). She is Michelle and she is raring to go – Nicky says she is a bit drunk but her gyrations in a tight fitting mini are turning me on and, despite the close presence of Nicky, she is all over me. She is steering my hands, which she will not let go and holds all the time as if in need of reassurance, to places no man has been before - or have they? If she carries on like that in bed she will be a great ride. Nicky offers a twosome for HK$1400 LT. I am tempted but not up for it. When Michelle disappears to the toilet Nicky and I depart. Its amazing how much better second time round is and we share a blissful night. I could get to like her. HK$1000 was gratefully received. Like she is, I am totally fucked and at 8.00am need my sleep. Miss M texts me – where am I she asks. In heaven.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Feeling slightly better I venture out to Wanchai just after midnight. Escape ......... In heaven.[/QUOTE]

Jack, you are really Django. Always on the ride, pulling a casket behind you....
What do the people in HK think about you? Hope you are fine now.

Only some words reg. room service:
I stay this time in the Grand Hyatt. Really great hotel, almost forget how good this location is. During the last years I stood at the Langham Place. But GH is in the center of Wanchai, very convinient.

The hotel bar is always a place to meet bar girls. Also this time there were every evening 5-6 stunning and classy maids.

And this hotel is really girl friendly. When I asked the concierge for some support to find company, he explained immediately how to find Neptunes (nice to get it explained again...) and the other bars. And offered to bring my "girl friend2 to the elevator if she needs a key to use the elevator.

I used this offer once, it works perfect. I met before a nice girl in Macau, we agreed to meet in HK, she came the day after, 2 hrs earlier than planed, the concierge sent her to 30th floor and called me that she is on the way.
Perfect service!

I make my way for the last time to Wanchai midnight Saturday. The streets are a heaving mass of people with the sports bars doing a roaring trade because of the live football and rugby. There was no scrum in Galaxy as I said my goodbyes to Miss M who yet again delivered all that was asked of her – and more. I make my way to Amazonia to meet Nicky – she is not there but Michelle is and she can’t remember anything about last night, not even me I fear. Nicky appears, looking quite ravenous in a mid-thigh long dress and after a few drinks we depart for one last shot. She did not disappoint. Another shot in the morning after a couple of hours sleep was not so good – she is obviously not a morning person. Or maybe I should have wakened her up properly first of all. I part with HKS1000 only to be asked for an extra HK$500 for her flight ticket as she has to return to the Philippines on Monday. I lie and say I have run out of the readies as I am not a registered charity yet. She was OK about that and we exchange email addresses with a promise to meet again next February when I return. We shall see.

Overall impressions? The standard has dropped over the years I have to say. Plenty Viets, Africans and Cambodians around now but, for me, you can’t beat a flipper for GFE. Escape has not yet reached the heights of the old Fenwicks. Neptunes is just the same. The girls are a lot more pushy – and many now advertise their chosen profession by the way they dress. It was not always like that. Bit embarrassing in the hotel lobby for the walk of shame IMHO. Galaxy is dead. Borocay is just surviving and Traffic a no-no. The non-girlie bars as I call them like Joe Bananas, Mes Amis, Dusk till Dawn and the likes seem to be doing well. I don’t venture into many others so I can’t comment.
Can’t wait until I return.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]I make my way for the last time to Wanchai midnight Saturday.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the reports. I can't wait to get there in about 3 weeks. I find myself attracted to the Fils for the GFE experience too. The ones that dress normal in public but are wild behind closed doors.

And it sounds like Escape is not up to a Neptune's level yet?

[quote=thewayoflaotzu]thanks for all the reports. i can't wait to get there in about 3 weeks. i find myself attracted to the fils for the gfe experience too. the ones that dress normal in public but are wild behind closed doors.
and it sounds like escape is not up to a neptune's level yet?[/quote]
i would not say that entirely. like all places, it is packed one minute and busy the next. you will not fail in escape, nor will you in neptunes either. good hunting. i agree about the flippers - more gfe - the problem is don't get too emotionally involved with them. i did and its hard to get out unrep001hed. try amazonia as well - i found it a good hunting ground and it is not as big as the others. the girls mainly stand at the bar near the toilets.
after 15 hours flying i am back home - missing the idea of going out tonight!

On the way back through HK to NZ I was fortunate to have a few hours to spare.

So straight to 37 Dundas Street, taken to the small waiting room and I asked never mind the line up just bring me Shelly if she is working.

5 mins later she was sitting beside me rubbing the old fella while I paid the 500 HK for 50 mins and the room up stairs.

I asked for a good room with a shower not over the bath, no problem.

This was my second time with Shelly. I love her cute face and great boobs.
She is short and bit thick around the middle but not fat if you know what I mean.

Guys she is a little pocket rocket. Our shower together was great with the customary BBBJ. Then I sat in the bed whilst she dried. Straight over, on her knees and she gave another awsome BBBJ, she swallowed all of me (and I am not small) and at the same time licked my balls!

I had to stop her to save for the main course. After some DATY I was staright into Mish and could hold back no longer. I swear she was having as much fun as I was.

Then a simple 5 min cuddle to rest. Reluctantly I head for the shower but no, another BBBJ.

Just as well I do not live in HK :) I would be broke by now with her great GFE.

TT

[quote=jackthelad2]i would not say that entirely. like all places, it is packed one minute and busy the next. you will not fail in escape, nor will you in neptunes either. good hunting. i agree about the flippers. more gfe. the problem is don't get too emotionally involved with them. i did and its hard to get out unrep001hed.[/quote]i made the mistake of giving my e-mail to the girl i stayed with 3 nights in august. she's only e-mailed 2 times since then. and i can dictate the terms via e-mail.

but what do i do if i see her in neptune's every night that i go there? how do i politely decline? i don't think she wants a husband or bf but i am sure if she saw me again, she'd look up at me with the same puppy dog eyes and ask to come back to my hotel until i kicked her out.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]I made the mistake of giving my e-mail to the girl I stayed with 3 nights in August. She's only e-mailed 2 times since then. And I can dictate the terms via e-mail.
But what do I do if I see her in Neptune's every night that I go there? How do I politely decline? I don't think she wants a husband or bf but I am sure if she saw me again, she'd look up at me with the same puppy dog eyes and ask to come back to my hotel until I kicked her out.[/QUOTE]

I know its hard, but remember this is a business transaction - nothing else. I've been caught a couple of times in exactly the same circumstances. Play it a bit by ear. Be friendly - even buy her a drink - but make it clear you have arranged to meet someone else that night or want to meet some one else. She might not be over the moon about it, but thats life. It also keeps your options open for later in case you change your mind. If you feel that bad - try Escape or any other place.
The fact that she has only emailed you twice in nearly 5 months would seem to me that she is not that interested in keeping in touch. My flipper emailed me every day for 18 months!!

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]The fact that she has only emailed you twice in nearly 5 months would seem to me that she is not that interested in keeping in touch. My flipper emailed me every day for 18 months!![/QUOTE]Maybe me being picky... but why not call them a Filipina as opposed to a flipper.

Filipina, Pinay etc all works and al shows appropriate level of respect. Yeah we all screw them, and enjoy it too, but no need to denigrate their nationality too.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Maybe me being picky... but why not call them a Filipina as opposed to a flipper.
Filipina, Pinay etc all works and al shows appropriate level of respect. Yeah we all screw them, and enjoy it too, but no need to denigrate their nationality too.[/QUOTE]

Yeah - I think you are being picky - just as you appear to be to some of the punters in the KL forum as well. However I did not wish to denigrate the Nationality - I was not aware this title could cause offence - it has been used regularly in previous reports without comment. You learn something every day.

FFS can we not just let ISG be one place where we don't have to be PC!
Flipper, Flip Flop, Filipina, who cares?
Next someone will suggest that it is not right to pay for sex and that we shouldn't be discussing it.

[QUOTE=Joe Banana]FFS can we not just let ISG be one place where we don't have to be PC!
Flipper, Flip Flop, Filipina, who cares?
Next someone will suggest that it is not right to pay for sex and that we shouldn't be discussing it.[/QUOTE]

Do you call them that to their face and do you call someone black a nigger?

Well I've had similar experiences with those operators recently. For one, I think the economy is pretty bad. secondly, most of these girls need to book their hours correctly so that the operators can maximize their profits from them. There are many flakers out there, so they probably just wanted to double check that you were keeping your appointment.

From the last few call ins, many of the girls said that business is not as good as it was 2 years back. But then again it depends on the girl that you call up too. The top japanese, korean and Russian and China girls are considered highly popular so they will always be booked. But for the regular girls, their business is hit a lot harder by this economic downturn.

The worst is when you call in a girl, and they end up pulling a bait and switch on you, giving you another girl and telling you that it's the girl you ordered, which is not true. I caught some of these operators doing that, and they admit that my preferred girl was busy and asked if I would settle for the new girl. Many times i declined, but sometimes I just take whatever they have. HK just takes too long to get girls- either hours at a filipino bar in wanchai, or calling operators for SW or visting those saunas that sometimes are busy on weekends is annoying. I guess beggars can't be choosers right?

AsnDragon


[QUOTE=JohnThomas0519]Called for one of the Japanese hotel reservation girls at 4 PM one day last week. Appears the Regal hotel in TST is where some of them are stationed. Told the lady on the phone I would be interested in meeting a couple of hours later. Business meeting lasted longer than expected. Suddenly at 730 PM a male pimp rang up and wanted to know if I was still going to meet. This is the first time that I've contacted in this manner. Have any of the bros met with the same experience. Given the economy in HK is back to normal, surprised by the proactive behavior.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]Do you call them that to their face and do you call someone black a nigger?[/QUOTE]

Do Flipper, Pinay or Fillipina have the same connotation? Are any of them used to degrade them?

[QUOTE=Pita123]Do Flipper, Pinay or Fillipina have the same connotation? Are any of them used to degrade them?[/QUOTE]

I've heard Philippine ladies refer to themselves as "Pinay" or "Fillipina", but never "Flipper".

According to Wikipedia:

[B][I]Pinay (pronounced /ˈpiːnaɪ/) is a colloquial term for Filipina, the feminine form of Pinoy.

The Filipino people are the citizens of the Republic of the Philippines. The term is also often used to refer to a person having Filipino ancestry. Most Filipinos refer to themselves colloquially as "Pinoy" (feminine: "Pinay"), which is a slang word formed by taking the last four letters of "Pilipino" and adding the diminutive suffix "-y". The pre-1987 Philippine alphabet (Abakada)'s lack of the letter "F" had caused the letter "F" to be substituted with "P". This is the reason, when the 28-letter modern Filipino alphabet has been made official in 1987, the name Filipino was preferred over Pilipino.[/B][/I]

With that said, we can safely assume that calling a lady from Philippines a "Flipper" is not a good idea. i.e. degrading!

Be safe,

APAC Man

Made the rounds in Wan Chai tonight (Sunday) starting around 11PM.

Galaxy - Pretty empty. About 30 girls and 7-10 guys. None of the girls anything to look at other than one slim chick singing in the band.

Laguna - male/female ratio was way to heavy on the males. I'm guessing something like 60/40.

Escape? (Former Fenwicks) - Entrance from the opposite end from before. Also pretty empty. Band was so-so. Guessing African American. Didn't have the energy of the band that was in Fenwicks 2 years or so ago when I was there last.

Neptune II - No band tonight. Not very full. Found a Viet girl with an amazing smile, great lips and wonderful attitude, until we got to the room.

At the bar we agreed to HK$1,000 for lots and lots of fun and her leaving at 6AM. We got to the room, in Kowloon. She wanted me to shower first. I suggested she shower first. Then before the shower she wanted money up front. I declined. I told her she needed to trust me and I had no plans to stiff her. She said she needed the money up front. I told her that if this was the case then she was free to leave. Then she started talking about how far we were from her room in Wan Chai. She asked for taxi money. I declined. As she was walking out the door I asked if she was sure that this is what she wanted to do. She said yes.

Now I'm considering whether to hit Harry's or just go to sleep.

EDIT: Harry's was nearly empty. Maybe 10 people in the whole joint. Met a cute African girl on her way out but she expected far too much.

[QUOTE=Apac Man]I've heard Philippine ladies refer to themselves as "Pinay" or "Fillipina", but never "Flipper".

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Oh come on, guys. Let's keep it real.

Apac, no criticism man (I enjoy reading your posts), but if you have never heard a filipina referred to as a flipper you either haven't been in HK long enough or you just don't get out enough.

Personally I refer to them as filipinas. But I have heard them referred to as pinays, flippers, fillies and others. I haven't heard flipper used in a derogatory sense - at least not in the circles I move in.

I really do hope that misdirected political correctness doesn't turn this otherwise entertaining and informative section of the board into a Captain Save a Ho agony column.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]Oh come on, guys. Let's keep it real.

Apac, no criticism man (I enjoy reading your posts), but if you have never heard a filipina referred to as a flipper you either haven't been in HK long enough or you just don't get out enough.

Personally I refer to them as filipinas. But I have heard them referred to as pinays, flippers, fillies and others. I haven't heard flipper used in a derogatory sense - at least not in the circles I move in.

I really do hope that misdirected political correctness doesn't turn this otherwise entertaining and informative section of the board into a Captain Save a Ho agony column.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]


UG,

Just a small correction, I meant people from Philippines do not call themselves Flippers. I was not saying others don't.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

Has anyone noticed that the streets of Wanchai have lately been awash with high school age party animals?

Also, since the latest bar trend seems to be standing and smoking on the street how about someone starting a curbside Fenwick on wheels.

PS: As a member of Friends of Porpoises, I feel compelled to register my objection to all the politically incorrect references to Flipper. Has anyone ever transported Minors across state lines for immoral porpoises?

Finally, I have noticed an uptick in high end freelancers cruising the bars above LKF.

Happy Holidays

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]Oh come on, guys. Let's keep it real.

Apac, no criticism man (I enjoy reading your posts), but if you have never heard a filipina referred to as a flipper you either haven't been in HK long enough or you just don't get out enough.

Personally I refer to them as filipinas. But I have heard them referred to as pinays, flippers, fillies and others. I haven't heard flipper used in a derogatory sense - at least not in the circles I move in.

I really do hope that misdirected political correctness doesn't turn this otherwise entertaining and informative section of the board into a Captain Save a Ho agony column.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]
If I may just add a bit on this - with appropriate apologies for perhaps belaboring the point.

I've lived in Hong Kong for over 50 years and I've heard just about all the derogatory and bigotted names being used for one and all nationalities - in both Chinese as well as English! And I do find it all distasteful personally.

Like Freebie Fan pointed out succinctly "...Yeah we all screw them, and enjoy it too, but no need to denigrate their nationality too...."

The Pinays are particularly hard hit as far as Bigotry is concerned as they've been at the lowest end of the Socio/economic strata as Domestic Helpers for over 30 years in Hong Kong and are the ones least able to defend themselves against ignorance.

I'm not particularly PC myself but I do find the use of racial/religious etc bigotry really takes away from the "attractiveness" and readibility of otherwise fine reports. I cannot see the NEED to use such derogatory terms unless there is other underlying anger or "concerns" by the writer himself.

Just my 2 cents

SEAJ

Ps. Pinoy = A Filipino (Guy), Pinay = A Filipina (Gal).
What do you cal a bunch of Filipinos???.......... Penises!!
Just a joke, Just a joke and I certainly hope nobody here thinks its a bigotted joke! (and I guess sort of to proof that I ain't all that PC myself!!)

[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]Oh come on, guys. Let's keep it real.
Apac, no criticism man (I enjoy reading your posts), but if you have never heard a filipina referred to as a flipper you either haven't been in HK long enough or you just don't get out enough.
I really do hope that misdirected political correctness doesn't turn this otherwise entertaining and informative section of the board into a Captain Save a Ho agony column.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]

Hi Guys - well it was me that sparked all this off in my reports. Sorry I raised a hornet's nest, but lets get back to reality. I apologise to those of us that are more sensitive than others. I certainly did not intend any offence to a race that I know is struggling badly to make ends meet because of a wide range of social factors and have to turn to the oldest profession in the world to try to eek out a living. Flipper is a term you won't find me using again. Lets now get on with the real purpose of the forum.

I would just like to say, in all fairness and good humor, that the concern for political correctness on this forum is worthy of great satire. Where is Don Rickle's when we need him.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Hi Guys. Well it was me that sparked all this off in my reports. Sorry I raised a hornet's nest, but lets get back to reality. I apologise to those of us that are more sensitive than others. I certainly did not intend any offence to a race that I know is struggling badly to make ends meet because of a wide range of social factors and have to turn to the oldest profession in the world to try to eek out a living. Flipper is a term you won't find me using again. Lets now get on with the real purpose of the forum.[/QUOTE]Thanks for making that mental adjustment JtL

As for some of the pussies on the KL forum. Well lets just say that that particular forum lacks the zing and zest, and the " if you can't take it you shuldnt give it " repartee that other more interesting forums have.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2] Flipper is a term you won't find me using again. [/QUOTE]

And I should hope so! It is so degrading. And everybody knows they are LBFM's, anyway;).

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Hi Guys - well it was me that sparked all this off in my reports. Sorry I raised a hornet's nest, but lets get back to reality. I apologise to those of us that are more sensitive than others. I certainly did not intend any offence to a race that I know is struggling badly to make ends meet because of a wide range of social factors and have to turn to the oldest profession in the world to try to eek out a living. Flipper is a term you won't find me using again. Lets now get on with the real purpose of the forum.[/QUOTE]
That is a very nice and gentlemanly reply which I for one truly appreciate. Thank you!

And I agree - let's get back to normal programming -

Where's the Pussy??!!

SEAJ