Excess' Excessively Good and Informative Report
I too wish to applaud Excess' really fantastic report. Not often we get such serious attention on the mongering scene in this great country. Bravo, mate! I see somebody beat me to assigning this report the ultimate honour: Report of Distinction!
[QUOTE=TheKnight]Congrats Excess (and little Excess)
It was after all, well worth waiting for.
I love the country too, not just for the clubs. Hope you two enjoy the trip and remember to make notes for the team![/QUOTE]
Hey, I didn't know "little Excess" could write? How is his spelling?
I can now add my own addendum to Excess' report by pasting a copy of a text, originally sent to Excess as a PM. I had a completely different and unsatisfying experience at Crazy Horse in Nicosia from what Excess found. So here is my summary:
"Hi Excess!
Two nights ago (Weds) I overnighted in Nicosia and decided to give Crazy Horse a try, based on your data, that there were "doable" girls for a decent price and, most important, one could take them for an hour or two or a full night session, etc.
Well, I agree that there were a couple of doable girls. But after I had invested an hour or so drinking my own drinks at the bar (rather pricey, i should say) and chatting to some girls here and there, I moved to one of the couches down below and invested further in a drink with a girl from Moldavia. (15pound for a shot-glass size coke with brandy???)! Anyway the point is that after he brought the drink for the girl, the waiter informed me that NO action with ANY GIRL is available! Absolutely NOT!! Just talk and touchey on the couch! That is it!! WTF??? Isn't this a place where you meet girls, make a choice and go for more???
Well, I tried to speak through this, and all the conversation was in Greek. But they would not budge and the girl confirmed this several times (too late, she already had the drink!) saying "All the girls here are virgins... The only thing here for you is go back to your hotel by yourself and wank-off..." Hey, thanks alot for nothing, darling!
So after observing that indeed no other male guests were making any headway in an erotic direction --meaning I saw lots of other men come in buy a drink or two then leave alone without a girl!-- I left totally unsatisfied and about 30 pounds spent out of my pocket for nothing! I even tipped the head waiter in an attempt to change his policy, but to no avail!
So for me it is a thumb's down on Crazy Horse. How on earth you got what you got there? I will never know..."
Now some forthcoming investigation should reveal exactly what is at foot here, as I imagine that Excess will be paying CH another cursory visit, simply to find out WTF is going on there now...Excess has suggested that the club may have violated some of the legal rules and is currently under closer scrutiny by the Police for a while. We'll see...
In any event,
Great Reporting and see you soon in Cyprus...
Ortos
Thanks for the encouragement
Thanks TheKnight, Ortos and of course to Buzz00.
Cyprus is deserving of more attention as it has many of the attributes for hobbying in place. The damn 3:00 am rule is the major drawback in the end.
Ortos' very unfortunate visit to the Crazy Horse does bear a further follow-up visit which will take place in the next few weeks. It was odd that they were the only club deviating from the strict 3:00 am rule in the other clubs - they claimed that they had a different license regime. To me it does sound as if they have run afoul of the authorities and had been put into the penalty box for an much reduced income cooling off period before resuming normal service. How the girls are making out under these circumstances is anyones guess.
I will inquire at CH but before ordering a drink and then if need be move over to the Elysee only a 100 meters away.
While sorry for Ortos' report and experience, it does once again highlight the value of ISG and its members' investigations and reporting.
Without wishing to sound like an advertising shill for Jackson, there is clearly great value to us all in a healthy and functioning ISG board with up to date reports - so I would suggest all readers' consideration to becoming a paid member for the modest amount required and so assist yourself and us all in your travels.
And now, lead on Ortos to the next fact finding mission !
P.S. Little Excess is fine but his spelling is atrocious - the boy seems to be lacking in concentration and is easily distracted by the girls. But can't expect too much spelling accuracy from a poor unfortunate with but one eye and no hands. :-((
A Horse of a Different Colour?
Lapin,
Thanks for your comments about the safety issue of the caberet scene here. I agree with you and I suspected that the article quoted below was well out of date...makes me wonder why it was presented in the context of our present discussions anyway...
It sounds like you have some experience with the scene here in Cyprus. Tell us which clubs do you list as your favourites? Can you give us a few tips? I checked your post below at the end of Sept. You speak about a club called "White Horse." Are you perhaps referring to Crazy Horse but mixed up the name? Where exactly is this White Horse? Because CH is just outside the walls opposite the Holiday Inn....
Thanks,
Ortos
A Value Added Report by Lapin
Well, thank you Lapin that is a very added value report.
Your tip will be tried out shortly at Dantela, Barbies etc. and hope that your luck with it is transfered. Will report on the results in the next couple of weeks.
You will find an earlier post from me on an afternoon session which I, like yourself prefer. However, you can run the risk of the girl working overnight before your 12:00 start-up - they find it hard to say no to extra money when doubling up as it were.
In any event thanks for sharing this information. A good saving if it does. I can think of at least one other member who will read and apply this strategy with interest.
You are very right about playing the game right - but sometimes we need a litle help to understand what are the rules of the game. You seem to have sorted this out. :-)))
Thanks again
Nicosia Club Update - Some winners and some losers
Please see the General Information section for reports form Ortos and myself on the Larnaca scene and comment.
Elysee - Avoid
Crazy Horse - Avoid
Casanova – Visit – good value club
Cornonet – Visit – New Top club in Nicosia – very high prices
Trocadero – Visit – Low girl quality – good ambiance
Following meeting and a great couple of days with Ortos as described in Larnaca, I traveled to Nicosia and was able to check out a number of previously visited and reported on clubs and as importantly was able to uncover 3 new ones. Here is the run-down and recommendations/comment.
The difference between Larnaca and Nicosia is glaring as to price in particular. Larnaca wins hands-down on price.
Elysee
The once Top club in Nicosia and said by some in Cyprus has lost its crown in my opinion. Big drop from the summer in girl quality - and management attitude is unbearable.
Recommendation: Avoid
The girls have slid down to the low A-team and many fill the B-team now. Stunners - I saw none. All very fit girls and a girl from another club who was interviewed extensively on the scene had a friend working at Elysee. She described Elysee as the Club with "the skinny girls". :-))
I may be mistaken but it seemed that the drop in the level of the girls was accompanied by a drop in the level of the lighting in the club - perhaps trying to compensate?
My visit was a write-off. I entered and asked one of the waiters for a beer immediately. Sat on one of the couches and as everywhere business was slow. Most annoying is that I sat for 35 minutes with my beer (great money saver) without a visit form the waiter or one of the girls - the girls were huddled up in the dark at a couch in the dark with others chatting and smoking at the bar. Almost no interaction at all.
Finally, a girl from the B-team arrived and introduced herself. I chatted and sent her on her way. The waiter then arrived and I inquired on pricing - CYP 110 for the club, you negotiate with the girl !!!. Time from 2:00 am. I said that this was way over the odds.
Thrust back from the waiter was pick a girl and we can discuss and work something out. I said no thanks - first I'd to set a price for overnight and afternoon service with the Club. Waiter basically refused and left.
Finally after another 15 minutes there was another visit from a B-teamer. Again, hello and some pleasantries and sent her off kindly with a thanks for her visit.
After another 15 minutes, the waiter returned and said "Well have you made up your mind?" I answered 'excuse me', I want to have the price from the club, I can handle the negotiation with the girl, but I seem to be having trouble getting your price. His response was "You can't make up your mind. Pick a girl and then we talk"
I then told him thanks and walked to the bar to pay for the beer (one beer for 2 hours). Gave him 6 CYP and told him that I was not at all happy with Elysee, had been a customer several times before, but he left me without an alternative but to walk out as I couldn't nail down a price from him. He shrugged his shoulders and turned away as if to say screw you. I left. Elysee has always had an ‘attitude’ but this was too much. It is totally off my list.
Crazy Horse
Recommendation: Avoid
Visited Crazy Horse two nights running for a check on what had gone on there. Please see Ortos’ report – no takeaways were offered on his visit.
On my visit, I spoke directly to the barman – told him I had visited and taken a girl out in the summer and a friend was here about 3 weeks ago and was told that the girls didn’t go out with anyone. I was embarrassed for my friend. What’s up?
He told me that there was a ‘change in the Ministry’. They had problems with the Police/Authorities. Now the girls could go out again, but the take them out for two-three hours anytime was finished and off the menu. Asked about the Private on-site hour specials – ditto that was gone too. So, it was the standard take them at 2:00 pm story.
Looking around, the ‘dirty kinky’ girls as reported had been replaced by sleepy and just dirty girls. No spark – mostly Moldovia and few Ukrainians. Nothing made the A team – very drab – most threatened to not even make the B-team !!. OK then how about price - 130 CYP including girl fee !!!.
I said that this was over the top – he looked a bit sheepish and said – we can’t adjust it – new regime. Cheaper Sunday to Thursday – about 110 CYP.
Thanked him for the info and headed off as there was no interest in the quality level or the price. Checked in the next night – different crew at the bar – basically same story and sorry level of girls.
During my day activities noticed a club on Arch. Makariou – the main drag – south of Debenhams on the east side. Noted it to make a visit in the evening
Casanova
Recommendation – Visit – very good quality/price quotient for Nicosia.
Middle size club – afflicted with the same no business syndrome – girls upper B team and a few lower A – about 10 with say, 7-8 doable. Mostly Ukrainians and Moldovians. Looking up. The manager George is a bit worn out but pleasant.
Took but a beer to sort out the pricing in easy discussion. Here it was Afternoon – CYP 39 plus the usual CYP 30 for the girl - 12:00 noon to 5:00 or 6:00. This is outstanding value for Nicosia and matches or beats Larnaca. Over night either CYP 52 or CYP 65 plus girl fee. Again outstanding for Nicosia.
Quickly ran into a daughter of Odessa. Described in the General Info report. Extremely touchee-feelee girl, lovely figure, face and did I mention rack?
Little doubt that she would be the one. Great in club action from her- DFK ing, plenty to get a hold of, and she returned the compliment with balls and shaft stroking (covered).. The ‘Chemistry was there’, so booked her for the afternoon next day. A great afternoon with everything on the program but A. Liked it so much went back in the evening and got her out for the night – very unusual for me. Again a very, very full program. Nice girl – likes to drink so you need to control this to your benefit. Had a great time at Casanova and will do it again. A top Value club. Hard to see it from the street – I had walked by several times in previous trips and not seen it. Means less traffic at all times, I imagine. The afternoon session is delightful as you have them less tired for 5 hours – went for a light lunch before with a glass or two of wine. She loved it and was very impressed with the treatment as an ‘almost’ normal girl/person. It paid dividends as it usually does. Club name – Larissa.
Later in the visit, I tried two clubs that were also new to me.
Coronet Cabaret.
Recommendation – Visit – Price is very high; Girl quality also very high. The Top Club in Nicosia that I saw – has easily overtaken Elysee in facilities, girls and without the attitude.
This was an interesting visit. Spoke with the Manager – Socrates (a wise man it seemed).
Had two beers with chats and observation. Coronet is a large club, very up market layout and fittings – fruit plates at the couches for the girls and guests. Girls largely Ukrainian, Moldova, and some Russian, one or two from the Middle East. Many A-teamers and a good handful of near or full stunners. In price discussion, the manager said that he was sure that they were the top club in Nicosia and their prices were high too. Not boastful but just giving the facts. How high said Excess??
They have a two hour program – take the girl if you are at a Hotel close by for 2 hours anytime – CYP 110 including girl fee. I mentioned that this was unusual – the 2 hours and that the cost was high. Overnight from 2:00 am the cost was CYP 150 including girl fee !!!. My response was high indeed. Might be able to do a slight adjustment he said, but nothing major. He mentioned that the Sunday to Thursday price for the same was ‘about 20 CYP less’. Not many guests (about 3), and nearly 18 girls.
Had a visit from a very tanned Ukrainian – gave a good interview had arrived less than a week ago she said. Possibly correct as she had a small round band-aid on her arm where it was very probable that she had blood drawn. Good sign that the girls had some blood work done – also could be a bit unnerving for some, I guess. Another Russian girl arrived 10 minutes later for her interview. Again, pleasant both very, very doable but the pricing wasn’t.
After a beer or two I said good-bye to the manager – again toldhim pricing was high but the facilities and girls were also a high level . He appreciated the gesture and said come back and let’s discuss it and he thought that we could come to arrangement that both sides being ‘businessmen’ could live with, especially outside of Friday-Saturday. All very adult negotiation.
I will do so – not ready to pay the prices quoted or even near to them – but the girls definitely were a level above what was on offer anywhere else visited in either Larnaca or Nicosia.
So, a new Top Club for Nicosia – Coronet Cabaret, Constantinou Paleologou Ave # 1 – turn left leaving the Holiday Inn and straight down that street – 400 metres or so on the south side. More investigation and price work needed.
In another nameless club, I asked the manager about the 2 hour takeaway policy at Coronet and said that I thought that was unusual. He agreed and said that the Coronet girls will try to get you to come quickly and then leave early. As well, they will only offer this to guests at a hotel within 10 minutes walk of the club. When immigration/police arrives for their check, the girls out are phoned/texted to return to the club immediately using any excuse walk quickly back to the club and enter via the upstairs office and down some stairs into the club. The club keeps the police busy with the other girls checks and a drink until any girls out of the club are there to be checked too. The girls don’t return to the guest’s hotel. Now this may be a competitor talking – it was – but something to consider and to question Cornet’s management on if you are interested in the 2 hour option which is appealing rather than waiting until 2:00 am.
Moving along the same street in the direction of the Holiday Inn on the north side is a basement club – Trocadero
Trocadero Cabaret.
Recommendation: Visit – low girl quality but with very good ambience, worth a double check.
Entered and sat down in a small club with about 10 girls. 8 on the low B-team. Two upper B-team verging on low A-team. Again mostly Moldovians, 2 Thai girls, 1 Russian and one Belarus – pick of the lot the last two.
Had a beer – chatted with the Manager. Price please? From 2:am CYP 130 including girl fee. Mentioned that this was high. Well we could adjust and the Sunday – Thursday pricing was definitely lower. ??? CYP 100-110 all up.
Interesting place. Best vibes actually of any club this trip. Girls were the best pole dancers seen. Lots of interaction between the girls – a fun place. From my eye, there was definitely the promise of very good girl on girl action from this place. Several of the girls were very girl friendly from their body language and touching of the other girls. Something to think about, if you are into this.
Again, clear and no shitting around price discussions – refreshing. Russian Lara came to visit – nice chat – would do her, slim and pleasant – thanked her and wished her well. A Moldova lower B-teamer arrived and after a couple of minutes bade her farewell. Finally, the tall red-haired Belarus (another great dancer) came for an interview. Very pleasant and also doable. The manager came over a couple of times - for a non-pushy ‘see something that you like?” Told him yes, but the price my friend. Well now it is later so pricing is different.(after midnight) How so? CYP 110. Sorry, still too high and I will be going now. Agreed together that perhaps another night and price might do it.- I was leaving the Island in any event the next day so I was researching rather than actively hunting.
That ends my update on the Nicosia clubs visited. As always - every club visit is a learning experience.