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yes, don't you just hate it when after a nice two-girl session of anal sex, where you're so relaxed because you've convinced both girls to lick your bung-hole for a nice snapshot, and for an extra 100RMB they agreed to eat each other while you bang them alternately doggie, and tonight your hot load was big enough to spread across both their cute 18 year old faces, but then at that wonderful life-affirming moment, one of these Guanxi peasants has the nerve to spit on the Holiday Inn's iron-gray lifetime-warranty faux-wool carpet?!?
When will this country evolve to Western standards of hygienic behavior?

[QUOTE=Santa][QUOTE=Hainanien]

Who taught them All to spit?

Who forgot to teach them Not to spit on the carpet in the room?

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Their mothers taught them. Low end hookers are from lower socio-economic backgrounds, where spitting is common and carpets do not exist. They are hillbillies, country bumpkins, dressed up in city clothing.

Getting a better blow job and asking her not to "tu" on your carpet, depends on your language skills and your ability to negotiate up front.[/QUOTE]

So many times I have read about bad service and all that other shit that happens over there. All the seniors have over and over again told us to have everything agreed upon before you even touch this woman.

Many newbies assume sex is sex and a BJ is a BJ (CIM included) . No fucking way , they will do anything to get out of giving you what you expect and / or pay for.

Negotiate and language is everything. One more time , everything !!!!!!!! This is only about the 1000th post on this subject , if you read the forum
you should have gotten it by now. If you get fucked over in China , in most cases (not all) , its your own fault. It happen to me many times. But , because of this forum and the seniors help , just maybe , this bullshit will never happen to me and you all again. Yes , there are always exceptions.

Good report Santa for the umpteenth fucking time.

take care and be safe

tile man

[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi]yes, don't you just hate it when after a nice two-girl session of anal sex, where you're so relaxed because you've convinced both girls to lick your bung-hole for a nice snapshot, and for an extra 100RMB they agreed to eat each other while you bang them alternately doggie, and tonight your hot load was big enough to spread across both their cute 18 year old faces, but then at that wonderful life-affirming moment, one of these Guanxi peasants has the nerve to spit on the Holiday Inn's iron-gray lifetime-warranty faux-wool carpet?!?
When will this country evolve to Western standards of hygienic behavior?[/QUOTE]

Holy hell!! Would you mind sharing these girls phone #'s with me? They can spit all over the floor if I get this much action from them!

-CPE

Actually, it was a pretty good bbbj, I could have probably cim but at a buck fity, one pop is all ya get & I prefer to pop in her other hole.

10 to 20 guys a day would be a Very good day for a SW in many Chinese cities, specially for the not so young & tight models, often, they don’t come out till 8 or 9 pm. I’d believe a sauna girl may reach that number on occasion but she’d need to put in some long hours. Or in the few back alley places where cheap BJs are the main menu item. But, I’ll agree, they probably tire of it before the first one of the day.

It’s also quite possible that many do actually live, work & monger here a number of years but don’t post a lot.

Maybe one of them can tell me if the higher end WGs spit as much as cheaper kinds? Or point to 1 of the 100's of threads that says, I don't remember reading a comparison.

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080109/od_nm/brothel_dc;_ylt=AuhyGUvkwxSDt_rAHIciA_2s0NUE[/url]

Hillarious story! We all gotta watch out.

[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Can I stick my neck out and say that having recently returned to China via Dubai after the Xmas break, the Chinese contingency on board my flight have now without a shadow of a doubt, completely sealed the top spot for the most ignorant, unbehaved and ill mannered people I have ever experienced in all of my travels! The poor cabin girls on the Emirates flight didnt know what the fuck had hit them! And before anyone chimes in, Im not talking about 1 or 2, or even a bunch of kids (although that would be a very easy way to describe it). I could go on and on in detail but I will refrain.

Apologies for the off topic and somewhat downbeat start to the New Year, but I just needed to get this off my chest!

Sid[/QUOTE]Recently went to Macau and on the ferry ride back, couldn't help but think of this post.

It was a 6am ferry and about 99% of the passengers just wanted to sleep (myself included). Actually, seemed like all passengers except for four Brits. It was beyond ridiculous. Didn't stop at loud chatter. Didn't stop at bad singing. One dude tried to climb over a row of seats (which was occupied with four sleeping, older ladies) for god knows what reason. It wasn't only the Chinese passengers which were directing nasty looks at them (not that they noticed any of them).

One of the guys tried calming the rest of his crew down, how people were trying to sleep, "shhhhh", etc.

It took a great deal of restraint for me to NOT remove the two bottles of wine in my back pack and bludgeon the four of them over the head with them.

Anyway, I think it's not so much about one group/nationality/ethnicity of people being "more rude" than another.

1) Etiquette is about social rules and norms and thus are defined by those rules/norms developed within that society. Between different societies, there will be differences in rules/norms. I remember as a kid, some teacher or other telling me it was rude to put your elbows on the table. I think that in some societies, it's rude to point your feet at others. Chinese remove their shoes before entering the home. When it comes to noise levels and personal space, seems that colder climate places (Germans, Brits, Japanese) prefer more personal space and lower noise levels where warmer places (HK, Italy) go for more intimate contact and higher noise levels. (DISCLAIMER: I'm not a sociologist or any other type of expert, just throwing out my personal ideas and observations).

2) When leaving your own society, seems that there's this tendency to feel that, well, those rules don't really apply anymore. I would guess that most readers of this board are "visitors" to new areas. Even guys that have relocated to China or elsewhere, do you really consider China or elsewhere to be "home". Sort of wonder whether you would have the same behavior/attitudes here as you would back home?

[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Recently went to Macau and on the ferry ride back, couldn't help but think of this post.

It was a 6am ferry and about 99% of the passengers just wanted to sleep (myself included). Actually, seemed like all passengers except for four Brits. It was beyond ridiculous. Didn't stop at loud chatter. Didn't stop at bad singing. One dude tried to climb over a row of seats (which was occupied with four sleeping, older ladies) for god knows what reason. It wasn't only the Chinese passengers which were directing nasty looks at them (not that they noticed any of them).

One of the guys tried calming the rest of his crew down, how people were trying to sleep, "shhhhh", etc.

It took a great deal of restraint for me to NOT remove the two bottles of wine in my back pack and bludgeon the four of them over the head with them.

Anyway, I think it's not so much about one group/nationality/ethnicity of people being "more rude" than another.

1) Etiquette is about social rules and norms and thus are defined by those rules/norms developed within that society. Between different societies, there will be differences in rules/norms. I remember as a kid, some teacher or other telling me it was rude to put your elbows on the table. I think that in some societies, it's rude to point your feet at others. Chinese remove their shoes before entering the home. When it comes to noise levels and personal space, seems that colder climate places (Germans, Brits, Japanese) prefer more personal space and lower noise levels where warmer places (HK, Italy) go for more intimate contact and higher noise levels. (DISCLAIMER: I'm not a sociologist or any other type of expert, just throwing out my personal ideas and observations).

2) When leaving your own society, seems that there's this tendency to feel that, well, those rules don't really apply anymore. I would guess that most readers of this board are "visitors" to new areas. Even guys that have relocated to China or elsewhere, do you really consider China or elsewhere to be "home". Sort of wonder whether you would have the same behavior/attitudes here as you would back home?[/QUOTE]


Many of the guys here on ISG , always say....... When in Rome. I live in Rome , its called the USA. I have to respect and put up with well over 200 cultures. At times , I do get sick of it. The world needs to learn the same. The world is so small now. I do not go out of my way to be rude , but I am sure that Chinese people see me as rude. I also think that the Chinese are more forgiving than many other cultures. The are good people.

I really don't go alone with the "When in Rome shit" . I just do my best and try not to hurt people. I was at a big dinner in China with maybe 12 people and I was the only one with his elbows on the table , while the rest spit their bones on the table all night. One day my GF took me out to eat where they spit the bones and other shit on the floor. I told my GF , don't take me to this shit hole ever again . Sorry , but when in China , the culture has to go both ways with me.

be safe , take care and do your best.

tile man

I would say that at least 90% of BBS girls are spitters. The % of sauna and KTV girls is less, but still high. The lowest percentage is SW since they do BBBJCIM often in cars. The difference is whether they use tissues and put the wastebasket next to the bed or just let it go on the floor. They spit on the floor more often in their own places, then my hotel room, but I normally warn them ahead of time.

I have never asked directly why, but they seem to spit naturally like there is nothing wrong about it. I doubt that most have any idea that it is a major turn off.

Has any monger actually asked a WG not to spit at all? What did she say?

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I would say that at least 90% of BBS girls are spitters. The % of sauna and KTV girls is less, but still high. The lowest percentage is SW since they do BBBJCIM often in cars. The difference is whether they use tissues and put the wastebasket next to the bed or just let it go on the floor. They spit on the floor more often in their own places, then my hotel room, but I normally warn them ahead of time.

I have never asked directly why, but they seem to spit naturally like there is nothing wrong about it. I doubt that most have any idea that it is a major turn off.

Has any monger actually asked a WG not to spit at all? What did she say?

OAH[/QUOTE]

I tell all of them , that this hotel in my home. I ask them not to spit and don't trash my WC . Also ask if you want to drink or eat the "pay for" food , please ask. Most do comply.

take care and be safe

tile man

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I .
I have never asked directly why, but they seem to spit naturally like there is nothing wrong about it. I doubt that most have any idea that it is a major turn off.
Has any monger actually asked a WG not to spit at all? What did she say?
OAH[/QUOTE]
Here's how I do it. I'm usually out of the Bathroom and in bed before the gal. I would then watch to see what they do. Some - not that many - would take the garbage can and tissue papers close to the bed. VERY GOOD SIGN as it automatically means that a BJ is definitely on offer! If she doesn't do this - I would be the one who gather the paper and garbage can next to the bed - MY SIGN that I expect a BJ! Hell, I'd even fill up two glasses with Hot AND Cold water - if I wanted FireIce! Somehow, all these things signal to the gal what you expect - and if they have any qualms - they would discuss it. Or else, they would ask what you were doing and that is when you explain it all to them!
So I'd end up with what I want exactly PLUS I would NOt have them spitting on the floor. Whatchyall think?
SE Asia Joe

I've had similar negative experiences on flights packed with local Chinese people. It is simply a lack of education in social etiquette and poor examples set by those with influence e.g. parents, officials, teachers, etc. I can remember flying on a domestic flight with people pissing in the sink. Many had never been on an airplane before and did not know how to use the toilet. And, it goes beyond the airplanes into total communities in China. Did you ever notice that common areas of apartment blocks can be totally trashed whilst the inside of the apartments themselves are spotless and tastefully decorated? Many local governments have launched "Living in Harmony" programs for education at a grass roots level. It will take time to change.

Just my POV.

OAH

agreed that domestic flights can sometimes be challenging. my main peeve remains the cutting in lines, everywhere including the airport security and airplane boarding (plus banks, restaurants, etc.). pretty obvious the planes not leaving till everyone gets one , and yet...

on a separate and happier note, i flew shenzhen airlines recently and had a pleasant experience. the attendants were all young and attractive, they wore tight red skirts cutting above the knees, long black leather boots with heels! and halfway into the flight, they line up in the aisle and do an exercise routine with all the passengers, and afterwards do a dance show!! kind of quirky, but if you get past that, very cute and endearing i think. try creating an airline like this at home... they'd be sued within minutes.

cheers

It's funny, if the girl doesn't look so good, is giving me bad service, or a very bad blowjob, and spits on the floor, I become angry. It's like adding injury to insult. Salt in the wound!

If she is hot, lots of fun, gives me a terrific blowjob, and spits on the floor, then I don't give a shit. I'm happy! Good one baby. My kind of gal. Yep, she even spits like a champ!

China to clean up karaoke parlors
Associated Press

Jan 17, 2008
BEIJING -- A government campaign targeting China's karaoke parlors will try to stamp out the selling of sex and drugs and the use of unlicensed music, the Ministry of Culture said.

The "Sunshine Project," which began Monday, comes as the Chinese capital prepares to welcome hundreds of thousands of visitors for the Beijing Olympics this summer. Chinese leaders, who see the games as a chance to show off a modern, thriving country, have taken great pains to ensure that the event is flawless.

The ministry said on its Web site Tuesday that the initiative would run through 2010 and target the 200,000 "entertainment enterprises" in China, though it mentioned only karaoke parlors specifically.

Karaoke is extremely popular among Chinese, who sing in parlors ranging from glittering multistory complexes to roadside mom-and-pop operations. In the past, most played unlicensed versions of songs but that has been on the wane in recent years as Beijing has increasingly cracked down on the practice.

China is a leading source of pirated copies of music, movies and other goods. While entertainment enterprises boost consumer spending and provide jobs and tax revenue, "some are unlicensed and in some, illegal activities such as sex, gambling and drugs are taking place," the Ministry of Culture said in an apparent reference to the many massage parlors that double as brothels.

Protection of intellectual property rights was also lacking, it added. The ministry did not give details on how the campaign would be carried out, but said it would strengthen supervision of the industry and give "sunshine" certifications to businesses that followed regulations, provided good service and used only licensed products.

The campaign will be carried out by several government departments, including the Public Security Bureau and the Ministry of Health. It follows a call by the ruling Communist Party for citizens to help build a "harmonious society."

[QUOTE=Intransit]
Jan 17, 2008
BEIJING -- A government campaign targeting China's karaoke parlors will try to stamp out the selling of sex and drugs and the use of unlicensed music, the Ministry of Culture said.[/QUOTE]

god, feel sorry for all those suckers coming over looking for the time of their lives and they will be facing a sterile ( no fun ) Beijing.