Budapest

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2489127]I am contemplating visiting Budapest when the Europe opens up more. Is Budapest worth visiting. Or are most of girls a bunch of scammers. A few years back there constant reports of guys getting ripped off.[/QUOTE]Let me put it this way, if you expect FKK's like in Germany than forget it. Budapest is all about hard work. Are there girls who are scammers, especially towards foreigners? The answer is yes. However to say all ordinary girls in Budapest are scammers is simply not true. Even I as a Hungarian, a local who is an expert for Budapest mongering scene had to learn & gradually move up in this game. There are many traps & unwritten rules when it comes to Budapest mongering scene. It takes time, years, to master them. If you are a total rookie, if it is your first visit to the city, if you will stay a day or 2 & you expect things to go smoothly, than get ready to be disappointed. If your target are ordinary girls than get ready to make many phone calls, expect that many girls will hang up on you the moment they hear English language, expect that you might get stood up in both outcall or incall, be ready to taste a bait-and-switch situations, expect that some girls will try to overcharge you just because you are foreigner. However, it is not all gloom & doom. There are girls who will charge you normal prices & will provide good attitude / service. But, even than it will take you lots of calling / time to organize the meeting with a girl. Be aware of gypsies. They are notoriois for scams, cold attitude, bad service, overcharging. My advice to you is to read the forum. Learn to recognize guys who really know the game & follow their advice. Avoid the others. In many of my posts, especially the early ones, I gave very useful advice for Budapest rookies. Read them, they will help you. If you are okay with the idea of using my services I will save you lots od time, make calls instead of you, talk to the girls in Hungarian & most importantly recommend the good ones, hidden gems who are proven & warn you about the girls who should be avoided. If your budget allows you than I definitely recommend elite girls. They are in a totaly different league. Much higher quality on every level / in every department than ordinary girls. Of course, their prices are more expensive. While we are on the subject of the scammers, avoid strip clubs & especially beautiful girls who will aproach you "by chance" on the street asking / offering to take you to the club for a drink. It is a scam which will cost you lots of money. Feel free to send me a private message if you need additional info.

[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2489136]As a civilian / touristy destination, Budapest is a nifty place to walk around and explore.

As far as the hobby, I went twice and had worst luck, not with scammers but just getting girls to even answer a damn WhatsApp message. Like no sense of urgency. Or they know they won't meet Wnglish speaker's expectations. Other users complain of fake pics, at least their girls showed up. Me? 20 of 22 girls didn't start reaching back to me until I was already on the bus to the airport to the next stop.

I was willing to splurge, but can't even get name brand porn stars to answer my pleas! (Nelly Kent seems willing, but her bod just doesn't do it for me. Maybe I'm picky.)

I did get scammed by one Rozylansky girl, $70 thankfully talked her down to $45 rushed mechanical service. Happy ending (for me) is Rozl banned her account.

Sorry if my sample pool is too small.[/QUOTE]You have summed it up pretty good. I especially liked the part about 20 of 22 girls not answering you or answering when it was too late for you. You simply told it like it is. That is reality. It is also true that is not easy to meet a quality porn star unless you are connected. I am connected, but it took me several years to achieve that. Why am I an expert for mongering in Budapest? Because I have worked & I am working fucking hard. When ordinary girls were my primary target I have visited / fucked 70 girls in a short period of time to be able to select 20 good ones. That is the only way & that takes lots of effort / dedication / time / money. Of course, during a long time of almost every day mongering, as the years were passing by, I have developed skills to read the girls, even over the phone, to read their personalities. That is extremely important especially with new / young girls. It is simple, in Budapest, hard work is the most important thing.

Budapest's one and only Barbara of [URL]www.submissivegirlfriend.com[/URL] is now on Twitter and has shared some very tasty photos:

[URL]https://twitter.com/BarbaraSzentiv1?s=03[/URL]

I've had three visits with her over the past few years, whenever I'm in town, and she never disappoints. Genuinely submissive and very open-minded.

[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2489136]I did get scammed by one Rozylansky girl, $70 thankfully talked her down to $45 rushed mechanical service. Happy ending (for me) is Rozl banned her account.[/QUOTE]I understand and appreciate that Hungarian spelling and pronunciation is not that easy, but this one already hurts (smiley).

Perhaps it would be interesting and helpful if I explain the meaning of those letters put one after the other in this order. So literally "rossz" means bad and "lanyok" means girls (so "rossz lanyok" means bad girls), while if we omit the space and write it in one word as "rosszlanyok", that is a colloquial expression for sexworkers.

And about the pronounciaton: that of "rossz" is easy to catch for English speakers, as it is rather like "gross" without the g. Here you can also check it, all three are ok, but I think the first one is the clearest: [URL]https://forvo.com/word/rossz/[/URL] "Lanyok" is a bit tougher nut to crack, I don't even try to find an example in English, but here you can check it as well, the second version is clearer: [URL]https://forvo.com/word/l%C3%A1nyok/[/URL] And if you put them together, yoo'll have "rosszlanyok" pronounced correctly.

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2489127]I am contemplating visiting Budapest when the Europe opens up more. Is Budapest worth visiting. Or are most of girls a bunch of scammers. A few years back there constant reports of guys getting ripped off.[/QUOTE]It is obvious, that if you prefer (or simply are used to) the calculability and standard service and infrastructure of FKKs or other standardized sex market institutions, you won't find them in Budapest. On the other hand, if I only look back at my 2020 track record, I've had mostly great experiences, and in general at rates that would be hard to find anywhere else in Europe or other more or less developed country for the same levels of service. (Yes, I still owe the thread a few concrete recommendations, and they will certainly come soon) Note: the degree of comparative price advantage may and does vary by category and type of service.

However, if you are an absolute beginner in Budapest and arrive here only for a couple of days, you should have difficulties in finding the right offers among the great number of (at first sight) similarly looking ads and other information sources. So as a first step I definitely suggest that you read this introduction to Budapest mongering: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4007-Tips-for-mongering-in-Budapest[/URL] As a second step, you should also look up the positive reviews (recommendations) in this thread about concrete girls from the past 2-3 years, and save the ones whom you like and who have an active ad at the same time. And a third step could be that as soon as your visit to Budapest is getting close, you come up here a few weeks earlier and ask about actual tips and recommendations (I'm afraid though that this won't happen very soon, if you would like to come as a tourist, due to the current pandemic situation).

Hello mongers,

I have been to Buda recently before the borders were locked again. I was there for different purposes, one of them girls. As for every other city, you need to be informed. Figuring out the right webpages, information, reviews etc. It takes time but its worth it and it saves you a lot of time after arrival and money. And you can increase your chances to leave happy.

I made appointments with 2 girls (Pema, Nancyy) from [URL]https://beszamolok.com/[/URL] and with one girl (NikiWolf) from [URL]https://rosszlanyok.hu/.[/URL].

I was just reading this as well as other forums. I found the Beszamolok page more useful in terms of the extensive reviews, photos, message system etc. Two meeting I arranged via the Chat of this webpage, the other one via WhatsApp.

I prepated a list of around 30 girls in my phonebook before my trip. I saw they rarely use WhatsApp, Viber or other messaging apps. So I either tried to Chat function of Beszamolok or gave direct call.

I can only recommend to plan at least one or two days in advance to meet the girl you like at your preferred time slot. I tried one time for a spontaneous meeting which I was still able to manage NikiWolf (not my favorite) within one hour but I had other, better plans.

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If there is more interest I can prepare short reports about the girls I met there.

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This busty blonde with juicy bubble but is available in Budapest & in Belgrade. I have fucked her 6 times in Belgrade just a several days ago where she was with other elite Budapest girls for some parties VIP style. They were there October 1-7. Her beauty is exceptional, angelic / baby face, big tits, great pair of legs, killer ass, complete package with excellent attitude / service. Her fucking / sucking skills are phenomenal. On top of everything she is a fun loving, super sweet girl. Real gem.

[QUOTE=Hilvar;2490000]I understand and appreciate that Hungarian spelling and pronunciation is not that easy, but this one already hurts (smiley). [/QUOTE]It's the dumbfounded American cultured Mandela effect, I simply find a key name I can't spell / pronounce by memory, and am not in a mood to open a second ISG browser tab to copy/paste, so I simply add a -ski or -sky at the end and instantly it's a Hungarian / Polish / East European word. (smiley).

[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2491560]It's the dumbfounded American cultured Mandela effect, I simply find a key name I can't spell / pronounce by memory, and am not in a mood to open a second ISG browser tab to copy/paste, so I simply add a -ski or -sky at the end and instantly it's a Hungarian / Polish / East European word. (smiley).[/QUOTE]It is absolutely irrelevant how will you pronounce rosszlanyok if you do not speak Hungarian language. Even if you learn to pronounce it perfectly it will not help you when you call a girl who speaks Hungarian only. Everyone here knew that you were talking about rosszlanyok although you spelled it Rozylansky. The key thing / most important thing was that you got scammed by one of those ordinary girls from that site. Some members here write posts just for the sake of writing them. When it comes to success in mongering in Budapest experience is irreplaceable & the only way to acquire it is a hard work for many years.

[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2491560]It's the dumbfounded American cultured Mandela effect, I simply find a key name I can't spell / pronounce by memory, and am not in a mood to open a second ISG browser tab to copy/paste, so I simply add a -ski or -sky at the end and instantly it's a Hungarian / Polish / East European word. (smiley).[/QUOTE]At least your loss was only 45 $ and nothing else. There are far worse traps in Budapest to fall in, which may end up in losing much more money, and perhaps even more than just money.

However, "talking down" a girl's rate is not something I would recommend to a foreign monger in Budapest in general, Although I have read a few reports on forums about the "Look, I have x HUF for this stuff now, deal or no deal?" method working, but even they suggest that you should "feel it during the talk". In my view, bargaining should be avoided in general, and especially not in this measure. It's not easy to imagine a girl who initially said 70 and yet would provide a good service for 45. She may accept it, but it will hit back in the level of service.

On the other hand, there are many great incall providers in the price range of 50-60 euro (in some cases the range may go down to 40 and up to 70), and 3 of my last 4 great experiences applied such rates, between 18 and 22 k HUF (which equals to 50-60 euro). It is also important to notice that within that range girls should be evaluated individually, because a 50 euro girl can be better or worse than a 70 euro girl, the rate itself won't tell that. But referring back to our initial topic: I'm always talking about the price the girls is asking originally, without bargaining.

[QUOTE=Hilvar;2490003]However, if you are an absolute beginner in Budapest and arrive here only for a couple of days, you should have difficulties in finding the right offers among the great number of (at first sight) similarly looking ads and other information sources. So as a first step I definitely suggest that you read this introduction to Budapest mongering: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4007-Tips-for-mongering-in-Budapest[/URL] As a second step, you should also look up the positive reviews (recommendations) in this thread about concrete girls from the past 2-3 years, and save the ones whom you like and who have an active ad at the same time. And a third step could be that as soon as your visit to Budapest is getting close, you come up here a few weeks earlier and ask about actual tips and recommendations (I'm afraid though that this won't happen very soon, if you would like to come as a tourist, due to the current pandemic situation).[/QUOTE]We often recommend to members who are newbies in Budapest to exploit the collective wisdom piled up in the thread, and read back. But how far back, you can ask and rightfully so. The whole thread is obviously too much, while if you only read a couple of recent pages, it may not give you what you need. The blog that I linked in my previous post is an option that I keep on recommending, but its scope is limited as well. Now I've tried a few test drills in the thread and I suggest that newbies who have a little more time could start reading back from about this page (and then proceed towards the present): [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?692-Budapest/page62[/URL].

Of course any such starting point may be questioned, but I consider it a good compromise between too much and too little, while hopefully a significant part of the factual information in the posts you can read starting from there (like the use of the major advertising pages for example) is still valid as well. And I have one more supporting argument to start exactly from there: you'll be able to read a high number of different views and opinions already in the first few pages proceeding from there, because it was an intense and busy period in the thread. I do not want to influence you at all about the reliability of certain members, nor put my own posts in the foreground. Just read each and every post, the information and arguments therein, and make use of them upon your own judgement.

Hungary will remain closed for tourism, until at least November 1. I will be pleasantly surprised if anything changes after that date. Hence, Budapest remains for the locals only. Therefore I am spending most of my time in Belgrade, everone can enter Serbia without any restrictons. My interests are currently there. Lots of people form all over the world who are craving for traveling are visiting Belgrade. Even old folks, for tourist reasons & they love it. I have personally met a nice couple in their 70's. I have met 2 yong guys from America who moved to Serbia too. Therefore, Belgrade is a place to be at the moment.

Covid situation in Hungary has turned from bad to worse since my last post, which is not unique in Europe these days. What is in strong contrast to other European countries, though, is that Hungary has not introduced any serious measures beyond a basic regulation about wearing masks in certain places and situations. But there is no regulation that would stop even mass events like a football match with 20 thousand fans in a full house stadium, so you can imagine how even those mild measures can be observed. Therefore the death toll of the virus is among the worst in Europe now, and certainly more casualties are to come.

However, a significant number of Hungarians seem to ignore these developments, at least for the time being, and one of the consequences is that the domestic part of sex market in Budapest is performing surprisingly strong. Personally I'm no longer part of the story, as I suspended my relevant activities about a month ago, and probably for a longer period (partly due to my Cocid concerns, but I have other personal reasons as well), but I'm still keeping an eye on the developments, so I'll try to keep you informed here from time to time.

Turning to the specifics: another surprise fact is that the number of girls with active ads seems to be about the same now as it was two months ago (when Covid was virtually on holiday), and they typically do not apply special measures either, unlike in spring. I did exploit the July to September market myself, as the rates and other conditions were slightly better then before (like more time and / or more exclusivity for the same money, but sometimes even lower rates), and in two cases also because the girl got stranded in Hungary instead of going (back) abroad, but I'm really surprised that so many girls have remained active. And it's not only the number of active ads, but many providers receive reviews as well in numbers, just like a year ago. I admit that this is a surprise for me, first that people (both girls and clients) are not more concerned about the raging pandemic, and also that domestic demand is persistently so strong that it can keep the market up at this level. As I've just checked the ads, all but one of the girls whom I met in this summer, as well as some of my best experiences in the previous 2-3 years, are active at present, so should anyone manage to come to Hungary these days, he could choose from a number of high level providers from among the best of the incall segment, who offer great performances in the price range of 50-70 euro per hour. The flip side of the coin is, though, that extremely few people can actually come to Budapest these days from abroad, which is also reflected in the frozen state of the escort market. That's it for know, and I hope to come back with new developments in a few weeks (or as it seems sensible).

I did say in my previous post that I am in Belgrade at the moment, because that is where foreign toutrists can enter withoit any restrictions & where all the elite action is. However, I am communicating with my friends in Budapest almost on the daily basis or at least 3 times per week. That depends on how busy I am with the clients in Belgrade. Yes, fuck the Covid-19 is what most of the Hungarians say. They want to lead normal life. Those who are affected financially due to this thing are super pissed & they especially do not give a fuck about it. I talk to my friends from Budapest, thay are all ok, all the preople they know are ok, their neighbours are ok. So, I am not surprsied at all by the attitude of most of the Hungarians about this thing. My attitude is no different. I refuse to be fooled. I am a free man & I want to live my life the way I want. As for the mongering scene for ordinary girls, it is business as usual. Most or almost all girls are working, plenty of local guys are visiting / fucking them. Elite girls & porn stars do some work in Budapest, but they are mostly looking for work abroad. Lots of them are frequently visiting Belgrade at the moment.

You foreigners can forget about entering Hungary / Budapest for now. Very strict measures have been introduced.

[URL]https://koronavirus.gov.hu/cikkek/operativ-torzs-ejfeltol-hatalyba-leptek-az-uj-vedelmi-intezkedesek[/URL]

[URL]http://abouthungary.hu/news-in-brief/pm-orban-calls-on-hungarians-to-observe-the-latest-coronavirus-restrictions/[/URL]

Belgrade is the only city where you can enter freely without any resrtrictions at the moment. It is also very near to Budapest. Therefore, porn stars & elite girls are frequently coming to Belgrade at the moment.