Lisbon

[QUOTE=CanuckGuy85;3012484]Thanks for the info and reviews I'll be in Lisbon again this winter most likely in December and I've been keeping an eye on this forum and your info and reviews are a big help. Looks like I'm definitely going to try and see Alina Alvares this time if she is still around along with Viviane Miler who has become my go to regular from EP especially since Estella Nunes and Eva Mello are no longer around.

Who would you recommend from EP when it comes to Portuguese girls in their early to late 20's? I have my eyes on Alice Costa and Bela Vaz who has some good reviews here and the local forum as well as Diana Abreu but I can't find any info on her. Of course things could change and half of EP's roster could be different by this winter but who would you currently recommend for now?[/QUOTE]Probably Gabriella Fontes. She has a more Eastern European look and very nice body. Alice is pretty and very pleasant but her tits are quite saggy already and her braces prevent her from delivering a good BJ. No idea about Diana but generally if a girl has been around for a while and there's no reviews then she probably isn't good.

[QUOTE=PER23;3012485]Probably Gabriella Fontes. She has a more Eastern European look and very nice body. Alice is pretty and very pleasant but her tits are quite saggy already and her braces prevent her from delivering a good BJ. No idea about Diana but generally if a girl has been around for a while and there's no reviews then she probably isn't good.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, yes I remember you gave a good review of Gabriela Fontes and she has some good reviews on the local board as well I'll keep her in mind if she's still around when I'm there this winter although personally I prefer Brazilian and Portuguese women when I'm in Portugal but we'll see.

Speaking of Portuguese girls Mariana Sampaio and Lara Vilar, who are newish girls this year, got positive reviews on the local forum. Meanwhile someone reviewed the Ariel Silva and Mariel Ines duo recently, and commented Ariel was more into the threesome than Mariel, who was more mechanical and distant. He give Ariel a 7, while Mariel got 4. Links to the girls:

Mariana Sampaio:[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mariana-sampaio-7595[/URL]

Lara Vilar:[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-vilar-8993[/URL]

Ariel Silva and Mariel Ines: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ariel-silva-e-maria-ines-8943[/URL]

In Mulheres VIP there is an ad of two very pretty black girls offering a duo giving each other a kiss. Is this what I have been looking for?

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/pamela-e-alexa[/URL]

Is MulheresVIP real and reliable? There aren't scams on it? Because people here have only talked about Apartado X. Is this page legit? Or king of bait and switch robberies?

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;3012731]In Mulheres VIP there is an ad of two very pretty black girls offering a duo giving each other a kiss. Is this what I have been looking for?

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/pamela-e-alexa[/URL]

Is MulheresVIP real and reliable? There aren't scams on it? Because people here have only talked about Apartado X. Is this page legit? Or king of bait and switch robberies?[/QUOTE]Weird. I search one of the girls (Pamela), it shows her solo with a phone similar but not equal to the duo ad. And both numbers show the same girl (albeit different pictures of her) on her WhatsApp profile. Is this a robbery setup? Will following this ad lead me to an apartment where some guy will stick me up for money? Or a scam occurs?

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;3012734]Weird. I search one of the girls (Pamela), it shows her solo with a phone similar but not equal to the duo ad. And both numbers show the same girl (albeit different pictures of her) on her WhatsApp profile. Is this a robbery setup? Will following this ad lead me to an apartment where some guy will stick me up for money? Or a scam occurs?[/QUOTE]I just posted a top 5 where 3 of the ladies are independents with profiles on Mulheres. I would stick to the profiles with verified photos and where you can see the girl's face. I've heard many stories of escorts stealing from clients (especially girls at Escort Privada) so obviously don't show up to an incall with anything you can't afford to lose, and if you have an outcall don't leave valuables lying around.

I'm a regular of 4 escorts that I see on an incall basis and I won't accept a glass of water from them. If I see a new girl, I always ask if there is anyone else in the apartment and check their reaction. It's easy to spot if someone's lying.

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I'm a regular of 4 escorts that I see on an incall basis and I won't accept a glass of water from them. If I see a new girl, I always ask if there is anyone else in the apartment and check their reaction. It's easy to spot if someone's lying.[/QUOTE]I obviously can't make the experience of being a foreigner in Lisbon. But, even if bad things can happen everywhere, I never had any feeling of insecurity or of being threatened while going about this marvellous sport.

No matter what some people say: Portugal is one of the safest places in the world.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;3012851]I obviously can't make the experience of being a foreigner in Lisbon. But, even if bad things can happen everywhere, I never had any feeling of insecurity or of being threatened while going about this marvellous sport.

No matter what some people say: Portugal is one of the safest places in the world.[/QUOTE]I have never had a bad safety experience or read about anyone having one on a review board in the last decade for Portugal.

For the independents and EP ladies I have seen before using outcall, I don't take any precautions. The first time I see a lady, I lock valuables in the hotel safe deposit box for outcall, and for incall I just go into the bathroom that has the shower fully clothed wearing my backpack. The lady never seems insulted. But once I know the lady, I don't bother with that.

Never heard of a strong arm robbery like a pimp in the room in Western Europe. Most of that stuff is 8 pm low-budget TV crime porn shows.

Never heard anybody complain about escorts in Lisbon stealing stuff, at least on ISG.

Wow, that does surprise me. I would have been surprised even if you said you'd heard a few stories of EscortPrivada ladies stealing from clients, but 'many' stories has pricked my ears up.

I'm always careful anyway with valuables, and my eyes are on the lady for the entire time she is in my hotel room. I've never felt that any of the EP ladies I've seen might be untrustworthy, although anyone can act like a saint temporarily!

Even when I've left the cash for the meeting on a table, only one lady has ever picked it up without asking me. In other instances, I've had to pick it up myself. I shall however be even more careful now, if that's possible!

[QUOTE=PER23;3012750] I've heard many stories of escorts stealing from clients (especially girls at Escort Privada) so obviously don't show up to an incall with anything you can't afford to lose, and if you have an outcall don't leave valuables lying around.

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[QUOTE=Harry1217;3012885]Wow, that does surprise me. I would have been surprised even if you said you'd heard a few stories of EscortPrivada ladies stealing from clients, but 'many' stories has pricked my ears up.

I'm always careful anyway with valuables, and my eyes are on the lady for the entire time she is in my hotel room. I've never felt that any of the EP ladies I've seen might be untrustworthy, although anyone can act like a saint temporarily!

Even when I've left the cash for the meeting on a table, only one lady has ever picked it up without asking me. In other instances, I've had to pick it up myself. I shall however be even more careful now, if that's possible![/QUOTE]It's basically girls spreading rumours about other girls. I can't verify anything. From what I understood, some clients are very sloppy with leaving cash, drugs and valuables exposed, or fell asleep during the booking. I do recall hearing of one lady being fired for stealing from a sleeping client on an overnight. A lot of nonsense seems more likely to happen in group bookings where there are more people, time and variables.

Most of the EP girls I've met have displayed good manners. What we see in forums represents a pretty small percentage of the overall scene. As Kama Leao said, this place is safer than most.

[QUOTE=PER23;3012750]I just posted a top 5 where 3 of the ladies are independents with profiles on Mulheres. I would stick to the profiles with verified photos and where you can see the girl's face. I've heard many stories of escorts stealing from clients (especially girls at Escort Privada) so obviously don't show up to an incall with anything you can't afford to lose, and if you have an outcall don't leave valuables lying around.

I'm a regular of 4 escorts that I see on an incall basis and I won't accept a glass of water from them. If I see a new girl, I always ask if there is anyone else in the apartment and check their reaction. It's easy to spot if someone's lying.[/QUOTE]Thing is last week while browsing a Portuguese gp review forum, I read of a scam of someone putting an ad for two black girls who offer a lesbian show / duo and everything where in reality you go to the apartment and you essentially get robbed by thieves. I can't find that thread again unfortunately.

And now I run into this ad that I'm very interested in with two beautiful black girls kissing (Pamela and Alexa) offering a duo.

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/pamela-e-alexa[/URL]

I found both girls individual ads though. Both girls phone numbers are different from the duo ad one. That's weird. Here is Pamela's ad which is on MulheresVIP:

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/pamela[/URL]

And here is Alexa's ad which is on Portal Privado:

[URL]https://portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhante-alexa-betencourt[/URL]

Thing is each ad has a different phone number. How? And the duo number has an old fishy picture of Pamela on it. Almost looks fake. I mean. I'm just trying to be safe here.

Might my best bet be contacting each of the girls individually, asking for duos, and seeing them in an outside hotel? If so, anyone know any hotels for threesomes that are safe?

Yes, some of it may just be ladies wanting to spread rumours so as to get more business themselves. The bottom line however is we don't know these girls, and we are talking about the escorting world as opposed to nursing for example.

Overnights are not my cup of tea as I don't want to be spending that much time with the lady, but they are indeed a different ballgame in so many respects.

Thanks for bringing it up. It reminds us all to be extra careful.

[QUOTE=PER23;3012898]It's basically girls spreading rumours about other girls. I can't verify anything. From what I understood, some clients are very sloppy with leaving cash, drugs and valuables exposed, or fell asleep during the booking. I do recall hearing of one lady being fired for stealing from a sleeping client on an overnight. A lot of nonsense seems more likely to happen in group bookings where there are more people, time and variables.

Most of the EP girls I've met have displayed good manners. What we see in forums represents a pretty small percentage of the overall scene. As Kama Leao said, this place is safer than most.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;3012899] I read of a scam of someone putting an ad for two black girls who offer a lesbian show / duo and everything where in reality you go to the apartment and you essentially get robbed by thieves. [/QUOTE]Once again: no place anywhere is 200% safe. That obviously can happen -and you can also be asked to make a money transfer even before being given the lady's address. But it's much more likely to be charged an absurd price for a meal in a restaurant. Which BTW is highly unlikely.

Sorry folks, it's another dud of a review. Looking for a young fitness bunny type, I contacted Lays / Lya via whatsapp and arranged for a 2 hour incall in the Arroios area, which I haven't been to before.

Unfortunately, the area is pretty grubby and full of immigrants. Not quite as bad as Martim Moniz and I wasn't there to take the census, but it wasn't a great start.

First major red flag was Lya opening the door with the lights off in the hallway of the apartment, so I couldn't see her properly. I was shown through to a bedroom at the far end of the hallway and when she closed the door behind us, a woman clearly in her mid 30's was standing in front of me. Definitely not the 21 advertised. I don't mind a few extra years but she's a generation older and pretty ugly. Her profile photos are probably deepfakes, as she looks nothing like them. No wonder the Apartadox profile hides her face.

At this point I said I wasn't happy and would like to leave, and she got rather angry about having her time wasted and blocked the door. I didn't want any problems so I made it clear that she didn't look at all like I expected her to and offered a small amount as a cancellation fee to keep the peace. I put the money down, moved past her and exited the bedroom. She didn't make a fuss but got on her phone.

When I opened the door to the apartment, two Indian / Bangladeshi guys were standing right outside, as if they were listening in. I had seen them outside the building earlier when I was waiting to be let in, and they had gone in before me. I have no idea if she had just messaged them but assumed they were pimps / security. Admittedly, I got annoyed and told them to get out of my way.

I'll chalk this one down to the summer market bringing a lot of lower quality escorts to the city but it's a reminder to never ignore red flags. Unreviewed ladies are always a risk and the little comment style reviews on the Mulheres site are often fake. It's also a potential red flag when a girl is operating under multiple names. If she opens the door and you can't see her, ask her to put the light on or walk.

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/lays-f0ZQ[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-lya-araujo-8514[/URL]