Bangkok Reports

So, I don't want to dox myself, but fuck it, I've been going to Thermae the past 4 or 5 nights and wrecking shop after my initial failure at that venue.

I just love the setup of walking in circles as many times as I fucking please, while at most a woman might say "Hello, or maybe just gently tap me with the tip of her fingernail. I know this is grotesque, but there is a streetwalker on Soi 4 with what I assume is a "full-blown" something situation, like a 0 out of 10, who tried to grab my arm as I passed, and I must have looked like neo from the Matrix dodging that shit. I digress. I love the Thermae way. I take my time. I find what I want and I go for it. So far, I have only run into one woman who very politely refused my company (I look like a fucking white 6 foot plus peacock standing out as compared to most of the dudes there).

The second gal I took was a real sweetie, 24 but looked 19, ample breasts that were augmented, but she had enough "meat" on top of the implants that they looked quite nice and were enjoyable to the touch. She had medium-light dark skin, maybe 100 pounds and some change, around 5'4" I'm assuming, perfect straight dark hair, and just that college girl cutie look. I would say a very weak 7, but once I'm in the 7 territory I don't really give a fuck, it's all about service at that point. She was quite sweet and accommodating, no rushing, good blowjob skills, eagerly willing in her participation to make me blow my load. If the entrance of Thermae as you walk in is south, being behind you, I have seen her standing on the outside of the western wall, midway in the lineup of women that seem younger than those in the middle. I have seen her there multiple nights in about the same spot. Best I can do to help locate this one. Damage was 3 K.

The third gal I took was a fucking knockout. 8 out of 10 for sure, not a doubt in my mind. Maybe 100 pounds, 5'2", slender, natural small be size breasts, medium-light "dark" skin, and just classy looking. Like I felt proud to be seen out and about with her. Super sweet, dressed like a lady, funny, spoke decent English, gracious, etc. Again, if the downstairs entrance is South, as in you walk in and South is at your back, she would have been on the North side of the cafe, standing on the outside and a little off to the right where there's some seating. I have only seen her once there, so don't know about her return to that same place in the lineup. She looked 21 but ended up being 29. She quoted 4 K for ST, and something like 7 K for LT (which to her meant 5 hours, and like 2 shots, but really more if you want to grab a bite with her or have drinks instead of getting straight to it). I actually liked and hung out with this chick after our time together. Funny thing, she REFUSED to use my Japanese ultra thin condoms. She's super concerned about her health and I can appreciate that, but the one's she had felt alright so no biggie. So, damage was 4 K, but I got the extra hanging out with dinner and drinks for free, and those WhatsApp deets.

The fourth gal, was a fucking nightmare. She was cute, but upon further inspection I had agreed to 3 K for ST with a 6. But she's kinda voluptuous with light-white skin and ample breasts so I was still excited. Oh my god, was it cocaine, was it Adderall, who knows. She was like this strange little over-energetic ferret. I should have bounced before we got to the hotel, but I dunno, I wanted to see those titties no matter what I guess. Super weird energy, but we got down to the sex and it was an alright experience. She gave me the best service I believe she was capable of in her overly energetic state of existence. Avoid at all costs. She was standing on the "inside circle" if that makes sense on the northeast part of the cafe. But doesn't matter, don't do it!

The fifth gal I took tonight was an absolute delight. She was a bit "larger" by the standards around there, maybe 135,5'4", with banging titties and a nice juicy ass. Light skinned, and with a nice "shimmer" with whatever metallic flake product she had on body and face. Her service was fucking on point one hundred. And she had the perfect sort of boobs for a good damn boob-job, which is rare in my experience. It's either that bigger boobs aren't "taut" enough, or the taut boobs you do find are too small to comfortably fit a dick between, but hers, oh man, she just lubed those bad boys up and held them together with one hand and I held on for dear life. Moving on to the sex, she's just perfect, eagerly accommodating all requests, and just kinda feeling what I want along the way too as far as eye contact, and me placing my hand on her throat and all that jazz. Perfect session. Super happy to get those whatsapp deets. Damage was 3 K. I would rate her a weak 7, but then again, who gives a fuck, unless you're hunting 9's and 10's, and I wish you godspeed in that endeavor.

I love Thermae, but in my few remaining nights in Bangkok, I'm going to fuck up Soi Cowboy / Crazy House. As what I saw tonight on a Friday walking through, there are definitely one's there I want. I just failed to see the talent before. I tried looking up Flamingo to no avail, not sure if it's actually called Flamenco? Anyway, thanks to EverythingThai for the recs. Also thanks to all the gents whom have helped me on this first trip to Bangkok, and if there is anyway I can help in the future, I hope I can. As soon as Ukraine opens up sometime in the future for example, I'm heading there to see if any ladies would like to "hang out," haha, and will report on that or something. It's a lifestyle.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2986049]Haha. Agree. Luckily, I dress well, fit, polite, so don't think I've disgusted too many thai ladies. I've walked around those Soi alleys last year so know what you're saying. I took a bike tour of BKK and the bike shop was right next to them. But believe it or not haven't gone into any yet. I've tried to read massage thread but alot of it seems YMMV or hit or miss. Any specific shops you recommend from recent visits?

I'll have to pay a little more attention to Soi 23 and area around Cowboy this trip. Honestly I stayed at Sheraton Grande last year to experience Soi Cowboy and found the gogo bars and street was not my scene. So I migrated to Thermae, street, online. But I need to branch out a little as it's getting boring. Hence the mix of massage this trip.[/QUOTE]I guess I've banged the most girls at Alice massage, compared to the amount of girls working there. For some reason they seem to have more good looking girls than the other shops much of the time, even though it's probably the smallest shop. I'll pass by all 4-5 shops on each side of the Marriot M hotel to see though. Girls come and go all the time, day to day, and I've passed Alice massage plenty of times without seeing anyone I'd like to bang too, at which point I just choose the best of a mediocre bunch at one of the shops for a decent thai massage with nothing more, except usually a BJ as long as she comes down to my price of 1,000 for that. Not all do, but I'm there mainly for the massage, not sex, so it doesn't bother me. And if you want sex for sure, there are several sex shop on the same soi.

Soi 23 I'd put pretty far down on the list. It was much closer to where I airbnb-ed last time, but I only rarely went down that soi, and find it a bit too ghetto for my taste. Soi 23 is more "skanky women who sell sex, but pretend to massage", while soi 22 is more "normal girls / women who sell massage, but sometimes sell sex too".

The night started out on Soi 7 around 5 PM. Went by the previous bar where I met the young cutee last time. She was there and gave me a big hug. However, this time there was something about her look that didn't appeal to me anymore. Last time she was done up much nicer. A sexy skirt, low cut top and her hair was down. This night her hair was up, she was wearing these god awful cheap shoes, and very little make up. Anyways, I decided to stay and drink for a while until the other bars opened. Drank with her, ordered some food from Taco Bell through grab and ended up being the DJ while drinking and eating. Spent about 4000 baht on drinks for me and a few of the girls before I made up an excuse and left. Man this girl kept calling me in line all night after I left. Had to block her finally.

Next stop was soi 4. Headed down to check out the beer bars. They were full of guys and very old and ugly ladies. It was not a good vibe in those beer bars for sure. Nana officially opens at 7 PM so I went in to check it out. Mostly empty bars and girls arriving slowly to work. Up on the top level Butterflies serves all the staff free food so I was able to chat up a few girls. I grabbed the line of one sexy girl and saved it for another night and left. It was a good way to kill half an hour.

Then it was time to head over to Thermae. I arrived at about 8:15 or so. There were about 10 Japanese guys out front in small groups, I guess contemplating when to go in. On either side of the entrance there were lady boys hanging around mixed in with a few normal girls who were looking for customers outside the bar. Walked down the stairs and was steered towards the bar for the customary mandatory drink. Girls were strolling in and paying their dues for being allowed to work their trade in the bar. Interesting to see how much the bar makes from each lady. Big stacks of bills kept piling up as more girls walked in and registered by paying their fee and showing their Thai ID cards. This is obviously to prove they are real ladies. However, these IDs can be faked and often girls use a friends ID to show in any bar. After getting my beer, I did a quick tour to see how the talent was looking. The pool kept growing as the night progressed. Girls of all shapes, sizes ranging from ugly and fat, to cute, beautiful and sexy, white skin, tanned, and a few dark slimmed ones, only a few. I did see one obvious post op ladyboy in there. Observations over the next 2 hours were as follows:

Japanese guys amounted to about 70% of the customers there. 20% were other asians, such as Chinese or Koreans. The last 10% was made up of the odd western guy and a few Indians. What I noticed is the Asian guys came in groups of two mostly with a few larger groups. They sat most of the time chatting amongst themselves. Not too many people were approaching girls at the start. As the night progressed more girls arrived and more Japanese guys. The Japanese guys started approaching some of the girls. Conversations seemed very short and they were off in a flash. I would say not more than a few seconds of talking or a quick google translate conversation and they were off. The western and Indian guys looked like they were deers caught in headlights. They all looked lost. I never witnessed one western or Indian guy talking to a lady except for one white dude while I was there. From what I saw, he struck out twice before I left. The two conversations I witnessed seemed to be full of many questions from him and then ended with him walking away. Even one lady picked up an Asian client right after and it took her all but 30 seconds to close the deal and they were off.

About the girls. About 10% were acknowledging the western guys. The rest would not even make eye contact with them. Most looking down when they walked by. I also experienced this with some of the girls. The ones that acknowledged them would nod and smile meaning they were open for them to approach. However, most western guys just sat in their seats looking confused without approaching anyone. The girls were spread out all over the place. What I always find interesting about Thermae are the girls who stand a the very back and in the corridor at the back to the left that leads to the toilets and the hotel upstairs. Some girls like to hide there and refuse to come right into the bar. Meaning that if you are not a regular there, you might not even see all of the girls in the place. One big reason for this is the girls enter through the front hotel door on Suk and then enter Thermae from the back to avoid paying the fee. Ok, so I thought to myself, enough collecting intel, it's time to pull the trigger.

I was eying one of the girls in the back left corner by the back exit. Big tits, long black hair, white skin and a nice ass. I walked over and asked her how much for ST. She quoted me 4000 Baht. I said no condom is ok? She said 5000 Baht and we were off. For me, I don't like to fuck around. I could have got her to accept less if I had of negotiated, but I don't have time for this. Anyways off we went to my hotel. I don't like the ST rooms there so I always grab a hotel in Suk so I don't need to travel back home at the end of the night. I prefer to stay in the area instead of going back home and dealing with the taxi mafia in the evenings. Back in my room, we showered together and she gave a decent blow job in the shower. Not Tulip quality, decent. On to the bed with many different positions and a nice finish inside. Then a quick shower and good bye.

The night was still young so I decided to check out Soi Cowboy. It was packed and really commercialized. The Arab bars were in full swing where 80% of the girls are drink only girls and the rest come with large bar fines and very high rates and mediocre service. When they grabbed my arm to entice me to go in I would ask how much ST and they would say they don't go with customers. Then I replied to them saying I will go to a bar where the girls go with customers. Two had the nerve to tell me all the bars are the same LOL. Anyways, I visited Shark, Suzy Wong and Baccara.

The girls in Suzy Wong were all topless. Most with larger breasts. I didn't see anyone on stage I liked so I passed.

Next I went into shark and sat down for a drink. One Thai girl with blond hair approaches me and asks if I want her to sit down. She was a little spinner with a tanned sexy body. I ordered her 3 tequilas and we fucked around in the seating area. I had her bra off and was sucking on her tits and fingering her. However, I was not ready for another round yet so I paid the bill and left. She had offered me ST for 3500 plus bar fine.

Then on to Baccara. The place was full of Asian guys as normal. Talent downstairs was lacking this night. However, if you look up, there is a glass floor and the girls are dancing with no panties on so you can see their pussies. Up I went and sat down for a beer. I saw a cute girl. One of those girls wearing a white student uniform waiting for her group to dance and I motioned her over to me for a drink. She told me she studies at Chulu university majoring in law which surprised me. She spoke perfect English. We chatted over a couple more drinks and then I got a call from my bro from T-Ded 99 telling me it was off the hook there. Hundreds of girls and just a few guys. So I paid my bill and I was off. On my way out I chatted with the door man a bit after witnessing him steer an Indian guy to the outside bar to force him to buy a drink before he would let him in. Something that has never been asked of me. I asked him why he did that. He said that guys go in and walk around or hide in the corners without buying a single drink for them or a girl. Just go in to watch the girls dance. Anyways, I skipped crazy house this night as I have spent too much time there recently and wanted a break.

Arriving a T-Ded 99 I noticed the sheer amount of pussy there that night. Two days before pay day when the Thai guys have no money, the place was dead. Very few Thai guys, some Chinese guys and two foreigners. My bro greets me and takes me to my usual table. I take a stroll along the back corridor where there were about 100 girls sitting. Chose two girls and took them back to my table. I ordered some beers, snack foods and one of the girls asked me to buy her a vape kit for 150 Baht. What then transpired over the next 3 hours was sheer craziness. Eating, drinking and fucking around grabbing ass and pussy and making out with both the girls. At this point I was ready for a second round. I chose my girl, cut the other one loose and I was was off to the hotel. The damage was 2600 baht for the drinks, food and the sitting fee for the two girls. 1000 Bhat tip for my bro, 2500 baht for the girl ST including the hotel and 1000 baht tip for my girl after the deed was done at the hotel. Great night again at T-Ded 99 that consisted of drinking, eating, fucking around with 2 at my table and 2 hours of BB sex with a Lao hottee.

[QUOTE=Interstella;2986278]So, I don't want to dox myself, but fuck it, I've been going to Thermae the past 4 or 5 nights and wrecking shop after my initial failure at that venue.

I just love the setup of walking in circles as many times as I fucking please, while at most a woman might say "Hello, or maybe just gently tap me with the tip of her fingernail. I know this is grotesque, but there is a streetwalker on Soi 4 with what I assume is a "full-blown" something situation, like a 0 out of 10, who tried to grab my arm as I passed, and I must have looked like neo from the Matrix dodging that shit. I digress. I love the Thermae way. I take my time. I find what I want and I go for it. So far, I have only run into one woman who very politely refused my company (I look like a fucking white 6 foot plus peacock standing out as compared to most of the dudes there).

The second gal I took was a real sweetie, 24 but looked 19, ample breasts that were augmented, but she had enough "meat" on top of the implants that they looked quite nice and were enjoyable to the touch. She had medium-light dark skin, maybe 100 pounds and some change, around 5'4" I'm assuming, perfect straight dark hair, and just that college girl cutie look. I would say a very weak 7, but once I'm in the 7 territory I don't really give a fuck, it's all about service at that point. She was quite sweet and accommodating, no rushing, good blowjob skills, eagerly willing in her participation to make me blow my load. If the entrance of Thermae as you walk in is south, being behind you, I have seen her standing on the outside of the western wall, midway in the lineup of women that seem younger than those in the middle. I have seen her there multiple nights in about the same spot. Best I can do to help locate this one. Damage was 3 K.

The third gal I took was a fucking knockout. 8 out of 10 for sure, not a doubt in my mind. Maybe 100 pounds, 5'2", slender, natural small be size breasts, medium-light "dark" skin, and just classy looking. Like I felt proud to be seen out and about with her. Super sweet, dressed like a lady, funny, spoke decent English, gracious, etc. Again, if the downstairs entrance is South, as in you walk in and South is at your back, she would have been on the North side of the cafe, standing on the outside and a little off to the right where there's some seating. I have only seen her once there, so don't know about her return to that same place in the lineup. She looked 21 but ended up being 29. She quoted 4 K for ST, and something like 7 K for LT (which to her meant 5 hours, and like 2 shots, but really more if you want to grab a bite with her or have drinks instead of getting straight to it). I actually liked and hung out with this chick after our time together. Funny thing, she REFUSED to use my Japanese ultra thin condoms. She's super concerned about her health and I can appreciate that, but the one's she had felt alright so no biggie. So, damage was 4 K, but I got the extra hanging out with dinner and drinks for free, and those WhatsApp deets.

The fourth gal, was a fucking nightmare. She was cute, but upon further inspection I had agreed to 3 K for ST with a 6. But she's kinda voluptuous with light-white skin and ample breasts so I was still excited. Oh my god, was it cocaine, was it Adderall, who knows. She was like this strange little over-energetic ferret. I should have bounced before we got to the hotel, but I dunno, I wanted to see those titties no matter what I guess. Super weird energy, but we got down to the sex and it was an alright experience. She gave me the best service I believe she was capable of in her overly energetic state of existence. Avoid at all costs. She was standing on the "inside circle" if that makes sense on the northeast part of the cafe. But doesn't matter, don't do it!

The fifth gal I took tonight was an absolute delight. She was a bit "larger" by the standards around there, maybe 135,5'4", with banging titties and a nice juicy ass. Light skinned, and with a nice "shimmer" with whatever metallic flake product she had on body and face. Her service was fucking on point one hundred. And she had the perfect sort of boobs for a good damn boob-job, which is rare in my experience. It's either that bigger boobs aren't "taut" enough, or the taut boobs you do find are too small to comfortably fit a dick between, but hers, oh man, she just lubed those bad boys up and held them together with one hand and I held on for dear life. Moving on to the sex, she's just perfect, eagerly accommodating all requests, and just kinda feeling what I want along the way too as far as eye contact, and me placing my hand on her throat and all that jazz. Perfect session. Super happy to get those whatsapp deets. Damage was 3 K. I would rate her a weak 7, but then again, who gives a fuck, unless you're hunting 9's and 10's, and I wish you godspeed in that endeavor.

I love Thermae, but in my few remaining nights in Bangkok, I'm going to fuck up Soi Cowboy / Crazy House. As what I saw tonight on a Friday walking through, there are definitely one's there I want. I just failed to see the talent before. I tried looking up Flamingo to no avail, not sure if it's actually called Flamenco? Anyway, thanks to EverythingThai for the recs. Also thanks to all the gents whom have helped me on this first trip to Bangkok, and if there is anyway I can help in the future, I hope I can. As soon as Ukraine opens up sometime in the future for example, I'm heading there to see if any ladies would like to "hang out," haha, and will report on that or something. It's a lifestyle.[/QUOTE]Glad you overcame your initial failures at Thermae. It's awesome there if you can get in the groov.

Just so it's clear, the back entrance to the Thermae ithrough the hotel is not availailable.

Standard rates (at least for me) 2500-3000. Nobody pays more except for Asians or rookies.

It's easy to see the girls in the back corridor when you walk past. No hidden girls anywhere.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2986300]"Then it was time to head over to Thermae...Observations over the next 2 hours were as follows:

Japanese guys amounted to about 70% of the customers there. 20% were other asians, such as Chinese or Koreans. The last 10% was made up of the odd western guy and a few Indians. What I noticed is the Asian guys came in groups of two mostly with a few larger groups. They sat most of the time chatting amongst themselves. Not too many people were approaching girls at the start. As the night progressed more girls arrived and more Japanese guys. The Japanese guys started approaching some of the girls. Conversations seemed very short and they were off in a flash. I would say not more than a few seconds of talking or a quick google translate conversation and they were off. The western and Indian guys looked like they were deers caught in headlights. They all looked lost. I never witnessed one western or Indian guy talking to a lady except for one white dude while I was there. From what I saw, he struck out twice before I left. The two conversations I witnessed seemed to be full of many questions from him and then ended with him walking away. Even one lady picked up an Asian client right after and it took her all but 30 seconds to close the deal and they were off..[/QUOTE]Bud, I'm going to have to disagree as to my experience as a western white dude who has gone to Thermae 5 nights in a row. I know your opinion reigns here, but I'm just not seeing how you could even sit in a single place or circle around and deduce that "only about 10% were acknowledging the western guys. " That ain't true in my experience, and I think it's a disingenuous survey of the situation there. I actually spoke to every woman I took from Thermae about this issue. Plenty are willing to go with white guys. Plenty of women there smiled back at me, as a 6 foot plus, well dressed, decent looking guy. Perspective is a funny thing, you have to be open that there is a limitation to what an observer can assess in an empirical approach to a social science observation. I would say that roughly 25% percent of the women there smiled back at me, and I would also say, the female species, not being known for their prowess in confrontation, being eye contact or whatever, had I stopped and talked to every woman there, I could probably swing leaving with 50 percent of what was available. I've known this 'secret" about ALL women for decades, just nut up and go and talk to them with zero fear, and watch what happens, because you never know till you try. Additionally, I find your depiction of "Crazy House" as an upscale establishment to be disingenous, and assume that you are a local guide with a kickback sort of setup. Which is fine. I mean no offense. That being said, I was told that black guys and Indian guys are going to have a difficult go of it at Thermae, from the women I spoke to directly on this issue. Not trying to subvert your opinion, just offering a little dissent with mine, because Thermae ain't no thing if you play your cards right.

Check out street girls on Soi 4 Jan 2025.

Anything your heart desires, 1,500 Bahts.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPRIR2P5CdU[/URL]

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2985288]LOL. I was curious to see how you would fare after reading your intentions.

Cool and honest report. I enjoyed reading it. Some suggestions, if I may:

1) Say hello, first. I mean, just normal politeness, no?

2) You're not buying bbq-ed chicken liver at a street food cart, where four fingers would indicate four sticks of bbq-ed liver on a stick if all the guy is selling from his cart is bbq-ed liver on a stick. I've only been to Thermae once (last January), but 4 k could just as well be your offer for long-time, as a newbies offer for st. The time I went there I offered 2500 to the first girl I liked, as I didn't remember if reading here that the going rate for st was 2500 or 3000, and 2500 was what I paid her.

3) Don't drag some girl out of there if you're later on going to kick her out for insisting on condom for sex. I'd reject her if she insisted on condom for BJ, as that's not normal, but condom for sex is the normal thing, and if she lets you fuck her without condom, for more money or because she thinks you're ok, that's up to her.
Giving her 1,000 just for the trip before kicking her out sounds decent, and one can imagine if she does that twice every hour, after three hours she'll have 6,000 for nothing more than sitting on her ass in a taxi, so she should be more than happy, but she's not going to see it that way, as you found out. More than decent of you to then give her the remaining 3,000 though, and happy you ended up with a good experience anyway.

Will be looking forward to your next report. Live and learn.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your candor and suggestions. I'm only just now entering the second stage of my life, so it's like, you know, every three years I look back and think, "what an asshole I was three years ago. " The 30 year old me would quiver in fear of the presence of the man I am now, and I can only hope that I continue to improve in that vein. I want to treat these women well, of course, as I also want to in general, treat everyone well.

I can tell that there are some gentlemen on this forum that are indeed worth knowing and sharing with. So, I will continue to do so with reports and such. However, there are some ultra-senior members that I'm not sure if they have to power to "ban" me or not for expressing dissent. We shall see. Still need to figure out this crypto jazz and get my account upgraded. Cheers, Tom.

Do many of you go bb with the free lancers or other workers?

Or do you go bb after few visits with the same one?

I definitely can't but I want to know how common it is. I'm just worried of catching something even with protection, knowing my luck 😂 BBBJ are a necessity for me.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2986429]Check out street girls on Soi 4 Jan 2025.

Anything your heart desires, 1,500 Bahts.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPRIR2P5CdU[/URL][/QUOTE]It looks like prison in USA. All girls segregate by race. Haha. Lots more Africans than I remember two years ago when I stayed at JW.

[QUOTE=Interstella;2986390]Bud, I'm going to have to disagree as to my experience as a western white dude who has gone to Thermae 5 nights in a row. I know your opinion reigns here, but I'm just not seeing how you could even sit in a single place or circle around and deduce that "only about 10% were acknowledging the western guys. " That ain't true in my experience, and I think it's a disingenuous survey of the situation there. I actually spoke to every woman I took from Thermae about this issue. Plenty are willing to go with white guys. Plenty of women there smiled back at me, as a 6 foot plus, well dressed, decent looking guy. Perspective is a funny thing, you have to be open that there is a limitation to what an observer can assess in an empirical approach to a social science observation. I would say that roughly 25% percent of the women there smiled back at me, and I would also say, the female species, not being known for their prowess in confrontation, being eye contact or whatever, had I stopped and talked to every woman there, I could probably swing leaving with 50 percent of what was available. I've known this 'secret" about ALL women for decades, just nut up and go and talk to them with zero fear, and watch what happens, because you never know till you try. Additionally, I find your depiction of "Crazy House" as an upscale establishment to be disingenous, and assume that you are a local guide with a kickback sort of setup. Which is fine. I mean no offense. That being said, I was told that black guys and Indian guys are going to have a difficult go of it at Thermae, from the women I spoke to directly on this issue. Not trying to subvert your opinion, just offering a little dissent with mine, because Thermae ain't no thing if you play your cards right.[/QUOTE]For the record I have not given any opinion here. It was what I witnessed that night when I was there.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2986300]

Then it was time to head over to Thermae. I arrived at about 8:15 or so. Japanese guys amounted to about 70% of the customers there. 20% were other asians, such as Chinese or Koreans. The last 10% was made up of the odd western guy and a few Indians. The western and Indian guys looked like they were deers caught in headlights. They all looked lost. I never witnessed one western or Indian guy talking to a lady except for one white dude while I was there. About the girls. About 10% were acknowledging the western guys. The rest would not even make eye contact with them.

I was eying one of the girls in the back left corner by the back exit. Big tits, long black hair, white skin and a nice ass. I walked over and asked her how much for ST. She quoted me 4000 Baht. I said no condom is ok? She said 5000 Baht and we were off. For me, I don't like to fuck around.

Arriving a T-Ded 99 I noticed the sheer amount of pussy there that night. Two days before pay day when the Thai guys have no money, the place was dead. Very few Thai guys, some Chinese guys and two foreigners. My bro greets me and takes me to my usual table. I take a stroll along the back corridor where there were about 100 girls sitting. Chose two girls and took them back to my table. I ordered some beers, snack foods and one of the girls asked me to buy her a vape kit for 150 Baht. What then transpired over the next 3 hours was sheer craziness. Eating, drinking and fucking around grabbing ass and pussy and making out with both the girls. At this point I was ready for a second round. I chose my girl, cut the other one loose and I was was off to the hotel. The damage was 2600 baht for the drinks, food and the sitting fee for the two girls. 1000 Bhat tip for my bro, 2500 baht for the girl ST including the hotel and 1000 baht tip for my girl after the deed was done at the hotel. Great night again at T-Ded 99 that consisted of drinking, eating, fucking around with 2 at my table and 2 hours of BB sex with a Lao hottee.[/QUOTE]White and Brown dudes looking lost at Thermae is funny. I was there 3-4 times last year and never really noticed the crowd I was just focused on the girl pool, and was never there more then 10-15 minutes as I found what I wanted and off we go. If I go this trip I'll have to go slower and just observe. I do like your directness and I agree it's best at Thermae. The one time I wasn't entirely clear upfront about what I was looking with a girl from Thermae it was an argument on services. Totally kills the mood.

I'm staying at JW in nana in few weeks and need some variety from past trips. I'm not a big gogo guy as its too hyped, transactional and commercialized. T-Ded sounds like more like overall better time for gogo. But I'm reading it's not really for farang's on holiday. Mostly all thai guys. True? I speak only basic thai words like "Hello," "thank you"; and don't need thai guys harassing me as a white guy going to their bar. Also wondering how far from soi 4 by taxi. Says 8 miles but that can be an hour + in BKK.

[QUOTE=Interstella;2986390]I know your opinion reigns here.

Additionally, I find your depiction of "Crazy House" as an upscale establishment to be disingenous, and assume that you are a local guide with a kickback sort of setup. Which is fine. I mean no offense. That being said, I was told that black guys and Indian guys are going to have a difficult go of it at Thermae, from the women I spoke to directly on this issue. Not trying to subvert your opinion, just offering a little dissent with mine, because Thermae ain't no thing if you play your cards right.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, my opinion definitely does not reign here.

Secondly, what are you going on about? In the post that you quoted me on, I said very clearly I never went into Crazy House as I had spent too much time there recently and I have never depicted it as an upscale establishment and the fact that you think I an a tour guide getting a kick back from Crazy House is laughable. I never even reported on it in the post you quoted me on and my previous reports on it never depicted it as an upscale establishment. Also I posted my observation on Thermae on one given night. Meaning that another person on a different night or even the same night may observe something different. Your post is very strange to me and I really don't even get what you are going going on about. Anyways, as I said before, I'm glad you are killing it at Theemae. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Interstella;2986390]Bud, I'm going to have to disagree as to my experience as a western white dude who has gone to Thermae 5 nights in a row. I know your opinion reigns here, but I'm just not seeing how you could even sit in a single place or circle around and deduce that "only about 10% were acknowledging the western guys. " That ain't true in my experience, and I think it's a disingenuous survey of the situation there. I actually spoke to every woman I took from Thermae about this issue. Plenty are willing to go with white guys. Plenty of women there smiled back at me, as a 6 foot plus, well dressed, decent looking guy. Perspective is a funny thing, you have to be open that there is a limitation to what an observer can assess in an empirical approach to a social science observation. I would say that roughly 25% percent of the women there smiled back at me, and I would also say, the female species, not being known for their prowess in confrontation, being eye contact or whatever, had I stopped and talked to every woman there, I could probably swing leaving with 50 percent of what was available. I've known this 'secret" about ALL women for decades, just nut up and go and talk to them with zero fear, and watch what happens, because you never know till you try. Additionally, I find your depiction of "Crazy House" as an upscale establishment to be disingenous, and assume that you are a local guide with a kickback sort of setup. Which is fine. I mean no offense. That being said, I was told that black guys and Indian guys are going to have a difficult go of it at Thermae, from the women I spoke to directly on this issue. Not trying to subvert your opinion, just offering a little dissent with mine, because Thermae ain't no thing if you play your cards right.[/QUOTE]Any non-asian or non-white dude in Thermae is going to have difficulty grabbing a girl.

90% of the girls there smile at me and I'm no prize. Any white guy that goes there is going to be smile that by 90% of the girls.

Your report is realistic, excellent and on point.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2986429]Check out street girls on Soi 4 Jan 2025.

Anything your heart desires, 1,500 Bahts.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPRIR2P5CdU[/URL][/QUOTE]Any close by recommendations. What's it look like between noon and 3 pm?