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So I realised I can't post big ass pictures so I cropped individual pictures. Took bloody long but hopefully they can be seen better now. Note I haven't tried this officetel but these advertisements are 100% real girls and not some fake random pictures, that I can guarentee.
[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1164659]Hi Ezinho.
I mean no offense and I know you are a veteran monger in the forum but I'm really interested to know which class of establishments you have tried in Korea to make such a statement. Again, I'm not trying to argue but I definitely think the korean SPs in foreign countries don't hold a candle to the providers in Korea. Personally I haven't tried to providers in America, [/QUOTE]I can get into every Korean establishment in Korea, but I have to agree with Ezinho.
And he's talking about San Francisco. In LA, the quality is even better and it's not hard to find due to the immense popularity of review sites.
Here's what it comes down to for a Korean, and if I can list it as this, I can see how it is clearly better for a FOREIGNER:
Advantages to Korea RLD.
1. Younger on average.
2. You know what you're going to get due to window shopping.
3. BBFS more available (if you're Korean).
4. RLDs are cheaper.
Advantages to Korea Anma.
1. Anal rimming.
2. Can be cheaper if you take a deal like two girls for 250, 000 won.
3. The soapland experience. In America only the table shower part is common.
Advantages to USA Incall (LA and Redbook in particular)
1. Easier to find reviews and know what you're getting.
2. Due to importance of reviews, the smarter girls will act like your girlfriend (a la room salon).
3. Girls have better bodies on average. Pictures tend to be photoshopped, so sometimes you'll get fooled.
Ezinho, I'd love to hear your opinion on this matter too as your sentiment seems to match what I felt when I came here. I had a couple theories earlier.
1. Room salon girls are wiilling to do "full-time" sex work in another country instead of having to deal with the embarassment of doing it in Korea. For some reason, room salon girls who go 2cha consider the RLD girls "dirty".
2. By the time they hit late 20's and come to America, the RLD girls (or whoever) have made enough money to get boob implants and fix their face.
[QUOTE=Zarcady;1164679]So I realised I can't post big ass pictures so I cropped individual pictures. Took bloody long but hopefully they can be seen better now. Note I haven't tried this officetel but these advertisements are 100% real girls and not some fake random pictures, that I can guarentee.[/QUOTE]LOL Sorry, I did try that one but the girl was at the bottom of the advertisement, damn ads look all the same. This particular one was 5 minutes walk from Gangnam subway station, make reservation and they will come pick you up from gangnam station; I took the one in the green tank top in the attached picture, says 24 in the picture but think abit older. Definitely a gorgeous girl but admits to having her eyes and her chin done, think fake tits as well. Not a bad service, soaped me down pretty well in the shower followed by BBBJ but no BBFS (first time at the officetel, they have more restrictions or rules, than other places) , didn't take too long to come (amazing fucking body) but since I only paid for 1 pop, spent the last 20 minutes or so just talking and cuddling before session ended. Have attached more photos from different ads, these are the ones that I've tried already and they are pretty good. Definitely not as enjoyable as full salons and hardcore club room salons but quality of girls are generally better.
Are the pictures from a web-site somewhere?
If you are Korean or a Korean friend, you can check out [url]www.nagayo.com[/url] Where they have ads from room salons and full salons alike. If you follow the links to the full salon web-sites some have pics of the girls and rooms (no face). Of course you need to be Korean or have a Korean friend.
[QUOTE=Zarcady;1164693]LOL Sorry, I did try that one but the girl was at the bottom of the advertisement, damn ads look all the same. This particular one was 5 minutes walk from Gangnam subway station, make reservation and they will come pick you up from gangnam station; I took the one in the green tank top in the attached picture, says 24 in the picture but think abit older. Definitely a gorgeous girl but admits to having her eyes and her chin done, think fake tits as well. Not a bad service, soaped me down pretty well in the shower followed by BBBJ but no BBFS (first time at the officetel, they have more restrictions or rules, than other places) , didn't take too long to come (amazing fucking body) but since I only paid for 1 pop, spent the last 20 minutes or so just talking and cuddling before session ended. Have attached more photos from different ads, these are the ones that I've tried already and they are pretty good. Definitely not as enjoyable as full salons and hardcore club room salons but quality of girls are generally better.[/QUOTE]Based on your description, it certainly seems very similar to the Korean incalls in America. Will have to report on this since you say that the girls are hotter than the full salon girls.
Checklist.
Coffee girls. Check.
RLD. Check.
Anma. Check.
Full Salon. Check.
To Do.
Room salon.
Officetel
I'm in the SF Bay Area and have done incalls with many Koreans. You can definitely find high quality here; just last week I banged a hot 23 year old Korean who provided 2 pops, BBBJ, rimming, etc for $200.
But the whole experience is different; only in Korea can you walk into a coffee shop and get blown or better in the booth.
[QUOTE=Bradley1; 1164686]I can get into every Korean establishment in Korea, but I have to agree with Ezinho.
And he's talking about San Francisco. In LA, the quality is even better and it's not hard to find due to the immense popularity of review sites.
Here's what it comes down to for a Korean, and if I can list it as this, I can see how it is clearly better for a FOREIGNER:
Advantages to Korea RLD.
1. Younger on average.
2. You know what you're going to get due to window shopping.
3. BBFS more available (if you're Korean).
4. RLDs are cheaper.
Advantages to Korea Anma.
1. Anal rimming.
2. Can be cheaper if you take a deal like two girls for 250, 000 won.
3. The soapland experience. In America only the table shower part is common.
Advantages to USA Incall (LA and Redbook in particular)
1. Easier to find reviews and know what you're getting.
2. Due to importance of reviews, the smarter girls will act like your girlfriend (a la room salon).
3. Girls have better bodies on average. Pictures tend to be photoshopped, so sometimes you'll get fooled.
Ezinho, I'd love to hear your opinion on this matter too as your sentiment seems to match what I felt when I came here. I had a couple theories earlier.
1. Room salon girls are wiilling to do "full-time" sex work in another country instead of having to deal with the embarassment of doing it in Korea. For some reason, room salon girls who go 2cha consider the RLD girls "dirty".
2. By the time they hit late 20's and come to America, the RLD girls (or whoever) have made enough money to get boob implants and fix their face. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bradley1; 1164686]I can get into every Korean establishment in Korea, but I have to agree with Ezinho.
And he's talking about San Francisco. In LA, the quality is even better and it's not hard to find due to the immense popularity of review sites.
Here's what it comes down to for a Korean, and if I can list it as this, I can see how it is clearly better for a FOREIGNER:
Advantages to Korea RLD.
1. Younger on average.
2. You know what you're going to get due to window shopping.
3. BBFS more available (if you're Korean).
4. RLDs are cheaper.
Advantages to Korea Anma.
1. Anal rimming.
2. Can be cheaper if you take a deal like two girls for 250, 000 won.
3. The soapland experience. In America only the table shower part is common.
Advantages to USA Incall (LA and Redbook in particular)
1. Easier to find reviews and know what you're getting.
2. Due to importance of reviews, the smarter girls will act like your girlfriend (a la room salon).
3. Girls have better bodies on average. Pictures tend to be photoshopped, so sometimes you'll get fooled.
Ezinho, I'd love to hear your opinion on this matter too as your sentiment seems to match what I felt when I came here. I had a couple theories earlier.
1. Room salon girls are wiilling to do "full-time" sex work in another country instead of having to deal with the embarassment of doing it in Korea. For some reason, room salon girls who go 2cha consider the RLD girls "dirty".
2. By the time they hit late 20's and come to America, the RLD girls (or whoever) have made enough money to get boob implants and fix their face. [/QUOTE]Hey.
How old would you say is roughly the age of these SPs in America? You say that girls at RLDs are generally younger but I say they are generally high 20s to early 30s which is not young at all!
By going with what alot of people are saying on the forum, I guess the quality must be pretty good in America but I'm not too sure how. I mean, officetel girls are pretty damn hot and I just can't see many girls being of higher quality than them besides ten-pros and jum-os. And an ace at one particular officetel told me she migrated from a jum-o so the SPs in America must be ten-pro standard? Kind of hard to believe there are better quality of SPs in America as to Korea, its driving my curiousity up the wall haha. Maybe you can pm me a link of this review site and I can finally open my eyes LOL.
BTW Full salon girls don't hold a candle to officetel girls (the good ones). Full Salon is in my opinion the place to go to get drained and have crazy fun (and indeed its fun haha as you would have experienced) but besides the HUGE range of girls that some of these establishments hold by themselves, quality seems to be subpar compared to an officetel. They are still better good but just not as good.
Plus I never heard of threesome in an anma. I've experienced event girls where they come in with a mask and give you a sorta temporary threesome (not even really a threesome tbh) for a couple of minutes but besides that. Maybe I just needed to ask?
I recommend you to try other styles that Korea has to offer. There are so many variety of services each with their own pros and cons and the trendy ones seem to pop up all the time. Like the officetels and full salons are the popular ones these days.
It would be good if you can link me some of these ads for the establishments in America. I want to see for myself! Hahaha
[QUOTE=Zarcady;1164693]damn ads look all the same.[/QUOTE]The photos are fake. You can't see their faces. They're selling the bodies, but as you know the girl is always older than advertised because its not her in the photos.
[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1164884]Hey.
How old would you say is roughly the age of these SPs in America? You say that girls at RLDs are generally younger but I say they are generally high 20s to early 30s which is not young at all!
By going with what alot of people are saying on the forum, I guess the quality must be pretty good in America but I'm not too sure how. I mean, officetel girls are pretty damn hot and I just can't see many girls being of higher quality than them besides ten-pros and jum-os. And an ace at one particular officetel told me she migrated from a jum-o so the SPs in America must be ten-pro standard? Kind of hard to believe there are better quality of SPs in America as to Korea, its driving my curiousity up the wall haha. Maybe you can pm me a link of this review site and I can finally open my eyes LOL.
BTW Full salon girls don't hold a candle to officetel girls (the good ones). Full Salon is in my opinion the place to go to get drained and have crazy fun (and indeed its fun haha as you would have experienced) but besides the HUGE range of girls that some of these establishments hold by themselves, quality seems to be subpar compared to an officetel. They are still better good but just not as good.
Plus I never heard of threesome in an anma. I've experienced event girls where they come in with a mask and give you a sorta temporary threesome (not even really a threesome tbh) for a couple of minutes but besides that. Maybe I just needed to ask?
I recommend you to try other styles that Korea has to offer. There are so many variety of services each with their own pros and cons and the trendy ones seem to pop up all the time. Like the officetels and full salons are the popular ones these days.
It would be good if you can link me some of these ads for the establishments in America. I want to see for myself! Hahaha[/QUOTE]Zacardy, can you give more intel on how to get to an officetel girl? Do they have a web-site like so many full salon managers do?
As for Korean girls in America, keep in mind that I'm talking about the ones in California. The ones in New York will range from 30's to 40's but will usually have killer tan bodies with huge boobs and blonde hair, and face can range from anything. But for most Americans, this is the style they like.
In California, age ranges from 20's to 30's on average. Go to ********. Com and look under Asians in Los Angeles to see pictures. Keep in mind majority are photoshopped. However, there are review sites that will review these girls so you know what you are getting, and the hot ones are hot. And the service-oriented ones are very service-oriented.
From my experience, many of the girls working in California have told me that they normally worked in room salons in Korea or worked as escorts in Japan and Hong Kong. Which is why it gave me my theory that they did not do this kind of work in their home country.
Keep in mind, I have never been to a room salon period and never been to an officetel period, so I cannot tell you how they compare.
But compared to the girls I've seen in RLD, anma, and full salon. The girls in California, the well-reviewed ones at least, do have a slight edge due to better service (minus BBFS plus CIM) and better bodies. Face is a roll of the dice.
As for full salon. When I got to choose out of 10 girls, I thought 2 were clear 9's. 2 were clear 8's, and the rest wer e7's or below.
As for anma threesome. I meant you get one girl each for 30 minutes for 250, 000 won which isn't something you're ever going to get in America. But then again, you're never going to get a Korean girl for 70, 000 won either in America.
[QUOTE=Americanthief;1164911]The photos are fake. You can't see their faces. They're selling the bodies, but as you know the girl is always older than advertised because its not her in the photos.[/QUOTE]Mate no offense but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The reason why its blurred is because they need to keep their identity hidden. If it was fake they would only take a picture of a body with no head visible. I can personally attest to the above ad. You can try yourself and post your review. You have never been to an officetel so don't post up your hypothesis on what you haven't experienced.
Regards
[quote]It would be good if you can link me some of these ads for the establishments in America. I want to see for myself! Hahaha[/quote]This is pretty typical fare for a FS Korean place in the US: [url]http://luxyasiangirls.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=girls[/url]
It tends to be a little lower outside of major Korean areas like NYC and LA, but there is the occasional gem. That said, I don't think Korean providers in the USA in general are better or even equal to those in Korea. Though I can see how some might think so if going by mainstream American / porn standards (lots of fake tits, etc). In Korea, they tend to be younger, prettier, better skin, less mileage, etc. And usually cheaper (Table shower. 5 minute bullshit massage, and FS in the Korean joints in the USA ranges from 160 in smaller cities to 200 in major ones).
[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1165027]This is pretty typical fare for a FS Korean place in the US:
[url]http://luxyasiangirls.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=girls[/url]
It tends to be a little lower outside of major Korean areas like NYC and LA, but there is the occasional gem. That said, I don't think Korean providers in the USA in general are better or even equal to those in Korea. Though I can see how some might think so if going by mainstream American / porn standards (lots of fake tits, etc). In Korea, they tend to be younger, prettier, better skin, less mileage, etc. And usually cheaper (Table shower. 5 minute bullshit massage, and FS in the Korean joints in the USA ranges from 160 in smaller cities to 200 in major ones). [/QUOTE]Cheers for the link mate. Wow those are really artistic shots LOL, and it accentuates what you said above about the mainstream american standards; big tits, full figured bodies. I'm however not convinced that these girls are of better quality than what you can find in Korea. I would say they don't even come close. Maybe it's my taste in women and I understand that everyone's tastes are different but I was expecting some knockouts (as much of a knockout as can be from a body shot and blurred faces I guess) but yeh. Cheers for the link anyway buddy
Back in Seoul for most of the summer. Last time I was in Seoul was two years ago. I went to the RLD in Cheonho a number of times back then, I intend to go back this summer. (I'm a gyopo, and I speak a little Korean.) But I also want to try the other RLD's (Cheonho is a little far for me). Anyone visited Miari or Cheongnyangni RECENTLY (with in the last month)? How are they nowadays?
I know there are other options (I've also visited two anmas two years ago) , but for FS, the price at a RLD can't be beat.
Okay, I tried a couple of B-row girls at the RLD and. Ugh, I can see the foreigners have it bad. If they made up for their lack of looks in service, I could understand but. One girl was litterly having seizures while blowing me and having sex, I think she thought it was sexy or something. I didn't even manage to pop, but she insisted I keep trying and she kept jerking me and making grunting noises. I seriously think she thought she was being sexy. One girl just stopped when I went limp, thinking I came. Which I didn't.
Well, here are my current thoughts now.
[b]Where to go for Looks[/b]
1. Full Salon. Girls will range, but I personally thought 2 girls in my lineup were stunning. Lineup is crucial.
2. RLD. A-Row only. I saw a couple girls that were stunning. B-Row is. Horrible. I honestly wonder how they make money.
3. Anma. Girls are not bad, but the problem is lack of lineup. So if you're looking for looks, this place is not guaranteed.
4. Dabang. Girls are not ugly, and certainly much better than the RLD B-Row girls. But again, no choice.
[b]Where to go for Attitude[/b]
1. Full Salon. These girls will act like your girlfriend like a room salon. And of course, alcohol helps.
2. Dabang. These girls have pretty good attitudes.
3. Anma. All business, but they make sure you get your time's worth.
4. RLD. They'll act all interested, but once you're inside it's wham-bam.
[b]Where to go for Cost[/b]
1. RLD. 70, 000 won for 15 minutes. Cheapest.
2. Dabang. 160, 000 won with no set time, but they'll leave once you're done.
3. Anma. 180, 000 to 200, 000 won for 60 minutes. 220, 000 won for multiple pops. 250, 000 won for two girls at 30 minutes each.
4. Full Salon. 300, 000 won to 400, 000 won including tip (20, 000 won on average). The cheap deals are hard to find but exist.
[b]Where to go for Service[/b]
1. Dabang. BBFS available and gets the edge over RLD due to better attitude (in my opinion).
2. RLD. Due to BBFS being available.
3. Anma. CFS but a lot of anal rimming.
4. Full Salon. Just standard stuff.
Feel free to agree or disagree. I really hope to try room salon and officetel girls. Zacardy, if you have information on how to find officetel girls, that'd be great.
[QUOTE=Eum Yang; 1165284]Back in Seoul for most of the summer. Last time I was in Seoul was two years ago. I went to the RLD in Cheonho a number of times back then, I intend to go back this summer. (I'm a gyopo, and I speak a little Korean.) But I also want to try the other RLD's (Cheonho is a little far for me). Anyone visited Miari or Cheongnyangni RECENTLY (with in the last month)? How are they nowadays?
I know there are other options (I've also visited two anmas two years ago) , but for FS, the price at a RLD can't be beat. [/QUOTE]Couldn't wait, so I went to Cheonho last night. It's pretty much the same as it was two years ago. Went to the same "house" as two years ago. The girl I saw (forgot the name) had a pretty face, but the body was thin. She was, however, very tight, so much that, and I'm ashamed to admit, I couldn't last long. She also kissed me, which never happened with the other girls I saw previously (and when I tried to kiss any of the previous girls, either she turned her head away or she allowed only a peck).
I'll go back to Cheonho at some point, even though the girl wouldn't have been my first choice. In the meantime, I hope to try Miari and / or Cheongnyangni next.