Bangkok Hotels

[QUOTE=SomeMongerer;1996325]Even if its a short time room, how am I supposed to get her out if security doesn't intervene?[/QUOTE]If you're in a short time room you will not need to take her out. You just leave the room and that's all.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1996844]Peaceful? LOL I think is better you start to read some news from Thailand.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjyArvoCCFI[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tHVcerUnvk[/URL]

Inside hotel maybe not, but outside is not a problem for them.[/QUOTE]I am also confused what you are trying to tell me. You think Security did the right thing not to intervene, and I should pay whatever the girl asked, because other wise a bunch of Thai guys may come in the hotel and beat me? And you also think that security will stay on the side?

Do you expect security to help you if a bunch of thugs just come in to beat customers?

If yes, I am expecting the same and that's why I stand my ground but I was disappointed that security is not well trained to deal the similar situation.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1996663]There are so many incidents where end result is the non-thai gets beaten to bloody pulp by 10-20 thais popping out of nowhere. You got lucky she didn't had any "brothers". Thai's don't give rats ass whether you are elderly, differently abled, autistic or poor, they will beat the shit out of you if you get in the way of their money.[/QUOTE]These guys that got beaten in the street are mostly drunk guys, or behaved bad in the first place, or had an argument with any kind of mafia (taxis, Ladyboys.).

And it's very unlikely that a hooker would come back with some kind of "brothers" because her customer didn't give her a tip. Especially with that amount of money that he gave her.

[QUOTE=SomeMongerer;1996701]So we are supposed to pay whatever they asked for? Do you know that she was asking for 3000 for tips after a very bad session? Is that robbery?

I never saw any violence mentioned in this thread, and generally Thai are peaceful. Where do you get the idea that 20+ Thai brothers beat somebody in the hotel? Are you talking about Columbia or some south american countries?[/QUOTE]No you're not supposed to and you did well by not giving her any tip.

You should have taken all her stuff and thrown it outside of your room.

[QUOTE=SomeMongerer;1996701]So we are supposed to pay whatever they asked for? Do you know that she was asking for 3000 for tips after a very bad session? Is that robbery?

I never saw any violence mentioned in this thread, and generally Thai are peaceful. Where do you get the idea that 20+ Thai brothers beat somebody in the hotel? Are you talking about Columbia or some south american countries?[/QUOTE]Get your head out of sand and threads, look around. Almost all bloodied farangs I have came across were because of some petty dispute. If you are paying 7 K short time in Bkk then definitely she would have upsold anal for 3 K, maybe she was not able to get it through that sales pitch due to her broken Thai English. You are already a ldop so 3 K extra isn't highway robbery.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1996946]Get your head out of sand and threads, look around. Almost all bloodied farangs I have came across were because of some petty dispute. If you are paying 7 K short time in Bkk then definitely she would have upsold anal for 3 K, maybe she was not able to get it through that sales pitch due to her broken Thai English. You are already a ldop so 3 K extra isn't highway robbery.[/QUOTE]What are you talking about? The girl wanted 3 K just to leave the room. I think he's been scammed by paying 7 K to a freelancer, but why would he still give her 3 K for nothing? He did right by not giving her, he even should have thrown her away himself without having any problem.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;1996866]... And it's very unlikely that a hooker would come back with some kind of "brothers" because her customer didn't give her a tip...[/QUOTE]well . . . I had a similar incident many years ago. I threw out a "non-performing" (at least for me) out of my room with "taxi money", because I was not willing to pay for bad service. She didn't came back with her pimp or someone similar, but with the police. So I had to deal with a furious girl and some police officer in the middle of the night right in the hotel lobby. In the end we were forced to compromise by the officer, but if things had turned out bad I could have ended up in a cell at some police station at Sukhumvit area. Much later I realised that was kind of lucky that night.

Never again I will let something like this happen to me.

[QUOTE=SomeMongerer;1996859]
In this case, I already paid her before the deed, and she wanted another 3 k in tips after a very bad session. I am not paying that and that's what everybody should do, right?[/QUOTE]I don't pay any 3k tip, like I don't pay 7k ST and sure never pay in advance, I always interview my girl in advance and tell her what service I want and agree on price, always pay at the end of the session, never had a problem in 11 years in Thai.

[QUOTE=SomeMongerer;1996863]I am also confused what you are trying to tell me. [/QUOTE]I don't try to tell you nothing! You wrote that thai are peaceful, so the videos show that thai people arent too much peaceful, a group of thai can beat a farang for trivial reasons or for few baht.
I never needed to call security in a hotel and I hope I never need it. Security It should help the client in case of need, but in Thailand they dont always stand to customer's side.
Always try to avoid problem in Thailand and never argue with thais for money, but at the end up to you, you can always try your luck and punch her in the face (as you wrote before).

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1997059]so the videos show that thai people arent too much peaceful, a group of thai can beat a farang for trivial reasons or for few baht.
I never needed to call security in a hotel and I hope I never need it. Security It should help the client in case of need, but in Thailand they dont always stand to customer's side.
Always try to avoid problem in Thailand and never argue with thais for money, but at the end up to you.[/QUOTE]This is the point I am also trying to get across and I have seen people getting beaten up bad over few hundred baht at Mixx pattaya. Police don't give a shit about a non-thai and as long as they get their cut they will be silent. So stay safe, stay out of arguments and most importantly fix the price with all needed menu before taking FL to room.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1997204]This is the point I am also trying to get across and I have seen people getting beaten up bad over few hundred baht at Mixx pattaya. Police don't give a shit about a non-thai and as long as they get their cut they will be silent. So stay safe, stay out of arguments and most importantly fix the price with all needed menu before taking FL to room.[/QUOTE]The problem is I already negotiated and paid what we agreed, and I didn't ask for any extra service.

I think the only way to avoid this is to go short time and run if there is a dispute as the conclusion, did I miss sth?

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1997204]This is the point I am also trying to get across and I have seen people getting beaten up bad over few hundred baht at Mixx pattaya. [/QUOTE]Moved my response to General Thread.

[QUOTE=SomeMongerer;1997256]The problem is I already negotiated and paid what we agreed, and I didn't ask for any extra service.[/QUOTE]I think you were very unlucky to find this scammer, neither I nor my friends have ever had a problems like this, but you know shit happen.

[QUOTE=SomeMongerer;1997256]The problem is I already negotiated and paid what we agreed, and I didn't ask for any extra service.

I think the only way to avoid this is to go short time and run if there is a dispute as the conclusion, did I miss sth?[/QUOTE]You were scammed when you agreed to 7 K st in BKK and I have not written anything about how you should avoid scam. It is for the knowledge of wider audience that creating a scene after getting scammed has probable dire consequences and it is better to avoid it. As far as "peaceful" thais delusion you are harboring below is the incident that happened right infront of my ex-tgf.

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3563122/British-family-beaten-unconscious-Thailand-couple-s-son-bumped-local-thug-Police-reveal-shocking-violence-sparked-father-begged-yobs-not-hurt-him.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1997661]You were scammed when you agreed to 7 K st in BKK and I have not written anything about how you should avoid scam. It is for the knowledge of wider audience that creating a scene after getting scammed has probable dire consequences and it is better to avoid it. As far as "peaceful" thais delusion you are harboring below is the incident that happened right infront of my ex-tgf.

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3563122/British-family-beaten-unconscious-Thailand-couple-s-son-bumped-local-thug-Police-reveal-shocking-violence-sparked-father-begged-yobs-not-hurt-him.html[/URL][/QUOTE]These things happen everywhere. The fact that this even make the news in Thailand shows thais are generally peaceful. I bet most people wouldn't dare to walk in the night in most down town part of the cities in South America, USA and Europe now.

I don't want to argue about this but one incident like this is not convincing that Thais are not peaceful in general.

Regarding the scam I kinda agree that 7 k is a ripoff and it will come with trouble. That's the price I pay as a newbie to Thailand.

I have stayed in several hotels in the area between Soi 23 and 31 but mostly in hotels costing over $60 a night. With the taxes RTC I end up quite a bit for 4 nights.

Do you guys have any recommendations for any nice hotels in this area costing below $50 for a night? Obviously hotel must be very clean, quite and girl friendly?

Thank you in advance for any recommendations.