Budapest

[QUOTE=AttilaAndor;2370879]I would really suggest you setting up a meet with Shona River, she's hands-down the best you can get out of a pornstar experience.

You can contact her on directly on her email or just check her official Twitter for other contact info.[/QUOTE]Shona is good, but rather expensive especially for longer meetings that include full GFE experience. That means girls will go out with you in the restaurants, clubs & than go back to your apartment for fucking. For example Shona is charging 6500 euro for 3 days for something like that. There are younger, equally or even more beaitiful girls who are charging 1500-1700 euro for 2 days or 2500-2700 euro fo 3 days. I am talking about hours of total dedication to you, spending the time with you, entertaining you, making you feel pleasant, basically being your girlfriend for 2 or 3 days.

I remember reading that during the last lockdown there were some girls offering heavily discounted prices, nice girls.

Is such a thing happening now with this second lockdown?

[QUOTE=Barawasha123;2504648]I remember reading that during the last lockdown there were some girls offering heavily discounted prices, nice girls.

Is such a thing happening now with this second lockdown?[/QUOTE]Some girls do that, some do not. However, it is irrelevant for foreignersi / tourists as they cannot enter the country.

Big changes in Hungary in the pandemic front (in multiple sense), and also some shifts on the Budapest sex market (although still not as marked as you might presume).

To start with a paraphrase to my previous post, Covid situation in Hungary has turned from worse to even worse since then, and after long weeks of baffling negligence by the government, finally substantial measures were introduced against the raging pandemic on November 11th (at long last, yet in many senses too late). Still not among the strictest in Europe, but compared to the almost zero before, it's a big change anyway.

Public opinion has also altered significantly, which is actually one of the motives for the measures (in addition to the situation starting to threaten with the collapse of the whole medical system). This especially goes for the countryside, because in the first wave the pandemic was concentrated on Budapest (with about half of the infected people and also the deaths nationwide), while now it's "only" about 20%, so more or less what is proportional to the number of inhabitants. BTW this is an outlier now in Europe, as big cities are typically more affected everywhere (and it's a bit similar to the US, where some states with lower population density produce the worst pandemic numbers proportionally, and also the reasons behind are similar). The relatively good (or it's better to say: not so horrible) numbers in Budapest are probably due to the strong first wave in the city, which made people and also local authorities more cautions and aware. That is also the main reason why the general feeling is relatively calm in Budapest despite the actually (and in an absolute sense) high pandemic numbers.

Just the opposite is the dynamics in the countryside, where many people used to fall for the suggestions by certain media and propaganda outlets that this was mainly a problem for the "urban people" (some of them even gloating over it), and a lot of family and other events, like weddings or local fairs, were held without restrictions and without due caution, where hundreds or even more people participated. But now they feel the pandemic in their own circles and families as well, while also many people who yelled "it's not our problem" earlier are infected or even dead, along with more and more celebrities and even popular young athletes, and all in all that's led to a tangible shift in public opinion and attitudes towards the Covid situation nationwide. Even though what's happening now is only what experts (and actually anyone who has common sense) have been predicting for about two months now, and earlier and gradual measures could have made the crisis path way smoother. In any case, now it seems like the former prediction of almost all serious experts is looming: If you only take the arguments of the economy into account, you'll end up with a lot of unnecessary deaths AND the economy suffering big time.

And I shortly mention 3 further important issues: 1) The official data are bad enough, but the growing inconsistencies in certain numbers make a lot of people think they are still better than reality (through data massaging), especially the daily death toll, which is probably at least the double of the official numbers now. 2) There are also growing inconsistencies in the government's actions and communication, which, in a paradox way, mostly affect their most loyal supporters, typically in rural areas, who only rely on government information sources (including media run by the state or the ruling party), because they had to face the surprise for example when on Monday everything had been still fine in terms of the pandemic in Hungary ("unlike the declining West, we don't need lockdown or other restrictions") and on the next day strict measures were introduced including lockdown and curfew regulations, and 3) Plans of the government with the Russian vaccine to import and use it without being reviewed and licensed by EMA (European Medicines Agency), an idea not very popular among people right now, to say the least (polls indicate that only about 7% would accept it voluntarily).

So life in Hungary has changed substantially since November 11th with a partial lockdown and even rather strict curfew measures for the evening and night hours. However, the impact on sex market is not so obvious, at least not for the time being. And I also point out that while indeed, a relatively strict regime has been introduced, but the new measures do not influence too much how foreigners can come to or stay in Hungary (which already had not been easy before either), they are all about regulating life within the country (and indeed they mean a big change in many ways, but actually do not make mongering impossible) So tourism is indeed blocked, but those who could come to Hungary two weeks ago (E. G. For business or educational reasons) can still come and stay in hotels for example, and can still date sexworkers if they wish, only allowing for the curfew from 8 pm. In order to avoid any misunderstanding: not too many foreigners would do so, but exactly from this aspect the recent measures have not brought big changes. Today, just like two weeks or two months ago, the relevant regulation is the following: "If a non-Hungarian citizen wishes to enter Hungary for business, economic or educational purposes and proves this fact upon entry, he or she may enter Hungary without restriction. " And about hotels: "Hotels shall not receive tourists, only guests arriving for business, economic or educational purposes. " Finally, in order to "prove upon entry" your business purposes, you must complete and present upon arrival to Hungary the document available at the following link: [URL]http://www.police.hu/sites/default/files/2020-09/Igazol%C3%A1s%20%C3%BCzleti%20vagy%20gazdas%C3%A1gi%20c%C3%A9l%C3%BA%20beutaz%C3%A1shoz%20-%20Certificate%20for%20business%20travellers.pdf[/URL].

Coming back to the sex market specifically, the biggest shift on the market since my last post was to be observed already before the new pandemic regime. Not in the number of girls with active ads, which is still surprisingly high (of course that may change any time and needs close monitoring), nor in widespread and strict health restrictions in the services (such as "no kissing" in general, as it had been the case in the spring pandemic wave), and based on the fresh reviews appearing on major sites there are actual interactions as well, and at least some regular mongers hold on (although in some cases it's suspicious that not all reviews are real or actual). The sign that does show a certain shift in the market, however, is an unusual phenomenon starting to raise its head: girls calling mongers (whose phone numbers or other availabilities they know) asking if they would consider a visit, and sometimes offering rebates or other benefits, like a more exclusive treatment (extra GFE) and / or extra time for the same money. This "reverse calling" is very unusual in the domestic incall and outcall market in Budapest, and yet it's happening nowadays in more than one cases (while some of the most popular girls seem to have enough clients even now, and do not apply such methods).

So it seems like the offer side is holding on in general, but less mongers take the chance to visit girls. From the health aspect only, this could seem surprising if we consider that girls are more in danger meeting a lot of guys than mongers meeting just one or two girls. But it probably goes down to the asymmetry of girls doing sex work for a living, while for most mongers it's something they can give up for a certain time. And of course budget considerations due to the pandemic may also play a part and hold back mongers from the market. (To go further into nuances: the individual situations of girls may vary a lot as well. Some may decide to work only the minimal to meet their basic needs, and do with much less clients than normally. And in this case their ads remain active, and they do not apply rebates or start calling clients, yet their service may turn more exclusive simply because they receive only one guy a day. That actually happened to me as well already in the July-September period when I used to be active in meeting girls). That's it for know, and let us see how things will develop further.

Are you aware how long the virus can survive on hair, skin, clothes, door handles. Several hours to several days and still being able to infect you. For those who are still willing to visit prostitutes it is more or less impossible to fully protect yourself or the nurse or doctors will not put so many protective equipment's and even with that they can get sick.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2505496]Are you aware how long the virus can survive on hair, skin, clothes, door handles. Several hours to several days and still being able to infect you. For those who are still willing to visit prostitutes it is more or less impossible to fully protect yourself or the nurse or doctors will not put so many protective equipment's and even with that they can get sick.[/QUOTE]I generally agree with you. As I already mentioned here, my last paid date was end of September when "I suspended my relevant activities, and probably for a longer period (partly due to my Covd concerns, but I have other personal reasons as well)". Since then, pandemic situation has turned much worse in Hungary, so now those concerns would be enough alone for me to quit.

However, I can also understand the motives of those who opt differently. During the first spring wave I didn't have sex at all (at least not with another person, as the joke goes) and it was not easy, even though I'm pretty good at tolerating temporary celibacy. (It is interesting, though, that after that void period my reviving sexual life delivered some remarkably great moments, and I really wonder if and how the long Lent before had an influence on that pleasing phenomenon).

And another factor is, I believe, the attitude of (many) girls. When you see that a lot of girls hold on, even among those whom you definitely know to do sexwork voluntarily, and some of them even not under serious financial constraint, and you also calculate that your risk is still much lower than theirs (meeting only one or two girls, while they meet a lot of guys), this could give you a feeling (perhaps falsely, but still) that it's not such a big thing. BTW I must admit that if I had had to make a guess in September about who would suspend their activities and who'd hold on as the going gets tougher (from among the girls I follow), I would have made a couple of misses.

And finally another interesting point: I read it in a blog recently how girls were complaining about their older clients to have disappeared in particular, which is of course not a surprise if we consider that they are the most in danger regarding Covid.

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55145989[/URL]

Did Mr Szajer got tired of all the gypsie girls at rosszlanyok, flew to Brussels to find the elite-providers provided by one of the Belgium.

Local Area Guides?

I was hoping to be back in Budapest this year but the world had other plans. Now I think it's time to leave a report from my last visit, two years ago. Better late than never.

Background:

This was my first time in Hungary, my second time ever patronizing. I was in Hungary for several weeks. I don't speak Hungarian. I was warned, meeting girls would take some work and it did. I contacted some girls before travelling there, but many weren't active when I got there or didn't respond. I only texted girls, didn't call them, thinking it would give them a chance to translate. Probably only 30% responded, and half of those only after my second text a day or two later. Next time I will call also. Only a couple were located centrally, the other girls I had to travel to outer districts to meet.

Girls:

I looked for 18-33 year olds that offer GFE. I like a lot of body types so nothing in particular. Don't remember all the prices but were between 15-20 K quoted.

Rubi - [URL]https://beszamolok.com/szexpartner/?lid=216754[/URL].

Great big ass, gave good blowjob and then we fucked at length, she didn't tire. Friendly, very enthusiastic and no rush. Didn't speak English but used translator on phone to chat. Her place was almost as hot as a sauna. 7/10.

Maja - [URL]https://rosszlanyok.hu/rosszlanyok.php?id=44671[/URL].

Very good looking girl, terrible experience. Cold personality, mechanical and wanted to charge me after 30 mins to cum a second time though I had paid for an hour. Avoid if you want GFE, or good value. 3/10.

Picuri - [URL]https://rosszlanyok.hu/rosszlanyok.php?id=47776[/URL].

Tiny, petite little girl. Condom on, about to stick it in, she grabs some lube which is icey cold and strokes it all over my dick. Went from 100% hard to 60% noodle until she took the condom off and warmed my hypothermic dick in her mouth. She really needs the lube so had to warm it up in the sink. Since she doesn't speak English this was awkward af and a mood killer. Still she was enthusiastic and judging by her other reviews this was probably a one off event. 6/10.

Ashley - [URL]https://beszamolok.com/szexpartner/?lid=217466[/URL].

Curvy girl, aims to please and have fun. I really enjoyed her dick sucking, she edged me for about 20 mins while I played with her tits and ass. Fucking her from behind was even more fun. Her apartment wasn't all that private. 7/10.

Dorina - [URL]https://beszamolok.com/szexpartner/?lid=195123[/URL].

Gorgeous body made even better by the way she moves, oozes sexuality. First time I met her I asked for a massage to relax, that didn't take long she's fucking good. She was sucking my swollen member immediately after and taking a load in her mouth shortly after that. A couple minutes of caressing later she whispered in my ear begging me to fuck her, so I immediately obliged. Fucked her again the following week and intend to get more soon. 10/10.

Mézecske - [URL]http://www.callgirl-list.com/lap/sexpartner/index.php?lid=210209[/URL].

Beautiful girl, friendly and the best GFE I had there. Can hold a decent conversation in English. Immediately at work getting me hard again after round one and eager to keep my cock inside her. Had a great location in centre. The other girl from Budapest I intend to revisit. 9/10.

Mystery Woman - ?

MILF. Mid thirties, big natural tits, curvaceous body. Pretty face too which was hidden in her photos. Enthusiastic and great GFE. She was way out in district II or III near the end of a tram line in a high flat. Played TV loud so neighbours didn't hear. WISH I could remember her name or profile. If anyone knows, help a brother out, I wouldn't mind a round two. 7/10.

Typing this out has really made me want to get back to Budapest. Fuck this corona virus, there are pussies just waiting to get fucked!

Tough days and weeks (and months) in Hungary in the pandemic front. It would not be easy to find any current parameter that is not among the worst in Europe and the world, here you are two of them.

1) Death numbers: the official Covid death toll in Hungary is already bad enough, the daily and weekly numbers per 1 million inhabitants are typically among the worst three in the world from among the reporting countries these days (especially if we filter out the dwarf states, where one single death can shoot the country to the top of the table for one day), this is a typical daily table from last week: [URL]http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8b39ac42d8e9ef601f3a3bf426d496066dcf228fb74184339b76f1b7fdaaec99.jpg[/URL].

However, the official numbers still only cover about half of the excess deaths in recent weeks (the number of deaths above the 5-year average of the respective weeks). Actually the ratio is even worse, because the basis should be lower than the 5-year average (as there are less fatal accidents for example (due to the lockdown), but it's hard to determine those impacts exactly, so let's calculate with the average of the past years). And the other half of the excess can only come from two sources: undetected Covid-deaths and deaths due to the partial collapse of the health system (when people do not get the medical care they would get in normal circumstances), which is of course also an indirect consequence of Covid.

2) Moving on from death numbers, there's been a remarkable drift in the past weeks in the number of active Covid cases in the relation Hungary vs. Austria. About five weeks ago it was 102,607 (Hungary) vs. 77,130 (Austria), resulting in a proportion of 1.33, while now it is 198,785 vs. 31,389 and a proportion of 6. 33. Source: [URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL].

That is mainly the consequence of the government's bafflling two-month negligence when they simply unleashed the pandemic from September to early November. And it is important to know that Austria has been a benchmark for Hungarians in many senses (far beyond the pandemic, but including it as well), and even PM Orban called Austria the "laboratory for Hungary" earlier, claiming that "we would both follow their godd practices and avoid their mistakes", as the Covid progression in Austria was indeed ahead of Hungary during the first wave. You do not hear anything like that these days. (OK state-run media outlets keep on producing quite bizarre "news programs", with a first part about how superbly the Hungarian government is fighting down the pandemic, and then come long reports from selected Western countries (selected upon which country is currently the designated enemy), with actually better (less bad) numbers than Hungary, to demonstrate and hammer into users how horrible the situation is out there, with Hungary being the isle of peace in the worldwide storm. But this is something too close and crucial now in ordinary people's lives as well, so the propaganda is not as effective as usually, even among their core base of supporters, at least that's how it seems now. (However, I agree that any long-term social or political effects of the present situation are very uncertain at the time being).

Now there is a ray of hope at least that the second wave has reached its plateau phase. But the Christmas-New Year period is expected to bring further risks (traveling within the country will not be restricted at all, only the curfew between 8 pm-5 am remains in effect), so I think that a long plateau phase without another kick-up of the curve is the best we can hope for. And one more remark about the relation between Budapest and the rest of the country: there is no change in this respect since my latest update, and while the situation is bad enough everywhere across the country, the current numbers in Budapest (even though being the only big city) are somewhat better than in most of the counties in the countryside.

I do not have too much novel information or data about the sex market this time, but the main trends seem to have remained unchanged. There is still a surprisingly high number of active ads, the only minor change that I perceive is that there's been less reviews lately. I've been pondering to make a few test calls to check whether the active ads actually mean active girls (and also about the current conditions), but ultimately I've been too lazy and unmotivated to do so, perhaps in January I'll make a try and then report it here. Until then Merry Christmas and a Happier New Year to all who keep following the Budapest thread these days.

Apparently they bestow 4 days Premium plus 3 with the code "beszamolokaracsony". The link is on the right hand bar. [URL]https://beszamolok.com/karacsony.[/URL] Normally they would ask for some prepaid paysafecard to pump money into. Good on them!

2 questions I have:

Can any explain where to get the paysafecard? Wish they used something modern like PayPal.

Can girls reject reviews like on Rosszlanyok? Because my understanding after observing the site for one year is that, they can! For example this Szintia girl here, [URL]https://beszamolok.com/szexpartner/227528/beszamolo[/URL], she has 6 bad reviews, but I never noticed any when she was active. Also many said she is 24 when her "verified" age is 19. This Lara / Dolli girl has 5 [URL]https://beszamolok.com/beszamolok_hirdeto/?lid=232119.[/URL] She also has some bad ones on Rosszlanyok, but I didn't notice any on Beszamolok when she was active. If you notice the "review of review" part, then these reviews have very few reviews.

The reason why this is important, is because if the girls can hide reviews, the users are no longer safe there. I have always thought that there are too few negative review on Beszamolok, maybe now I understand why. If it is too good too be true it probably is, I will have to be extra careful now. Most of the inactive reports make it here look like a minefield. [URL]https://beszamolok.com/ingyenes_legfrissebb_beszamolok.[/URL].

Despite what I am saying the Hungarian market with Rosszlanyok and Beszamolok is still the best in Europe / World by a distance, great platforms that make collaboration between girls and clients so much easier. If you pick girls with 30+ reviews on one of the two sites (with UK flag is you're foreigner), chances are you can't go wrong. No need to ever pay 100+ Euro.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to my fellow ISG friends! I would love to hear your responses.

Appreciate the update Hilvar. 2020 was obviously disappointing on many fronts - it was the first year since 2016? that I hadn't been able to visit. All I and many others can hope is that we can visit in the foreseeable future! In the meantime hope you and all the ladies stay safe. Though I worry a couple of my favourites may never return after this hiatus. Hope I can make it back this summer (though I said that last year...)

All the best.

[QUOTE=Simplex33;2479266]Hi,

Any of those here with some knowledge of Budapest know of this lady. Legit?

[URL]https://jenny.escortbook.com/[/URL]

Is there a reliable club in the city that will offer extras that could be recommended that I won't get fleeced in.[/QUOTE]She is former pornstar Jennifer Morante. If I remember correctly the had some favourable reports on ISG six or seven years ago, and I think her going rate was 100 EUR an hour plus extras. I've not met her myself. Her rosszlanyok profile is currently active.

[URL]https://rosszlanyok.hu/rosszlanyok.php?pid=szexpartner-data&id=14624[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/adrianadu.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=MunchMe12;2479007]Thanks for your detailed review which motivated me to try white angel back in Feb. It was absolutely amazing experience and one of the best so far. Sadly her profile is not active these days.[/QUOTE]

I am pleased that you managed to meet her before the world went mad. Thanks for the feedback, she is one of my best experiences in my mongering "career". I have not travelled to Budapest or anywhere else since January due to you know what, so I haven't been keeping up with the forum.