Lisbon

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;3012860]I have never had a bad safety experience or read about anyone having one on a review board in the last decade for Portugal.

For the independents and EP ladies I have seen before using outcall, I don't take any precautions. The first time I see a lady, I lock valuables in the hotel safe deposit box for outcall, and for incall I just go into the bathroom that has the shower fully clothed wearing my backpack. The lady never seems insulted. But once I know the lady, I don't bother with that.

Never heard of a strong arm robbery like a pimp in the room in Western Europe. Most of that stuff is 8 pm low-budget TV crime porn shows.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. Everything I mentioned is hearsay from pillow talk with escorts so in hindsight I overstated it as it's rumoured, not factual. The only time an alleged theft occurred and was more or less confirmed was Tita Ipanema from EP, who was allegedly fired for stealing from an overnight client who fell asleep early into the booking. I mentioned this back in 2023 - [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?761-Lisbon&p=2799698&viewfull=1#post2799698[/URL] in response to a post by ExExpatriate about her popping up on another site.

Again that one is hearsay but I say 'more or less confirmed' as I remember her disappearing from the site just before I heard the story from another escort who had no reason to bring it up other than it was the hot gossip for that week.

Anyway, that's one story among thousands of reviews, so statistically unimportant. As you said, be cautious on the first encounter.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3012990]Can you recommend any top-notch escort agencies in Portugal (if so please post in the Portugal threads)? [/QUOTE]I'd recommend EscortPrivada (EP), booking process was smooth, whatsapp dm the girl, fix a time, provide location and verification like pic of the key etc and the girl comes to you.

I've been with Gabriela Fontes from EscortPrivada (EP) and session was amazing. I'm nit picking but her breath smelled like a little bit of dick from the last session nothing a shower or mouthwash can't fix.

Just summarizing from what I read Alina Alvares and Viviane Miller are also pretty popular.

I also booked one incall with Morgana Cruz. Apartadox is the webiste if I remember correctly, the incall was nice and clean with showers great quality. There were possibly 2 other girls working in other bedrooms. Morgana looked a bit older and artificial than advertised but her service was great and she's well built, Silicon boobs, 1 arm is fully tattooed. Brazilian. No kissing though so something to consider.

There is more than enough info on this thread which I used for my travel. You're in good hands.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;3012951]Once again: no place anywhere is 200% safe. That obviously can happen -and you can also be asked to make a money transfer even before being given the lady's address. But it's much more likely to be charged an absurd price for a meal in a restaurant. Which BTW is highly unlikely.[/QUOTE]Just contacted one of those girls. All seemed fine until she asked me "are you sure you can pay our price? Then I asked what it was She said 2000 Euros for 3 hours. I said "What? What is your hourly rate?" She answered back 300. So 3 hours runs 900. She then apologized and said "2000 is our overnight price". I didn't like how she tried to finesse me by suggesting 2000 for 3 hours. Is this usual from some girls over there? Testing to see guys weaknesses? I mean, I'm planning to get my own hotel room for this so I am not walking into someone else's apartment to get finessed or robbed. Just her trying 2000 Euros at first. Fishy. Lets see. I'll report what happens.

Also if anyone has suggestions to goid hotels for threesomes, please fell free to send me a private message.

There is nothing wrong with trying new girls if you willing to take risks. Those popular girls were unreviewed at one point.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3013039]I'd recommend EscortPrivada (EP), booking process was smooth, whatsapp dm the girl, fix a time, provide location and verification like pic of the key etc and the girl comes to you.

I've been with Gabriela Fontes from EscortPrivada (EP) and session was amazing. I'm nit picking but her breath smelled like a little bit of dick from the last session nothing a shower or mouthwash can't fix.

Just summarizing from what I read Alina Alvares and Viviane Miller are also pretty popular.

I also booked one incall with Morgana Cruz. Apartadox is the webiste if I remember correctly, the incall was nice and clean with showers great quality. There were possibly 2 other girls working in other bedrooms. Morgana looked a bit older and artificial than advertised but her service was great and she's well built, Silicon boobs, 1 arm is fully tattooed. Brazilian. No kissing though so something to consider.

There is more than enough info on this thread which I used for my travel. You're in good hands.[/QUOTE]Technically EscortPrivada is not an agency. Agencies aren't allowed due to anti-procuring (pimping) laws in Portugal.

Not that anybody cares, but Portuguese Flora Neves is working in Paris right now.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;3013102]Not that anybody cares, but Portuguese Flora Neves is working in Paris right now.[/QUOTE]Flora has a fan club on the big American review board and the British one.

She fell out of favor here and on the local Portuguese board, apparently due to her higher prices and lack of responsiveness to messages and her being outcall only.

But she certainly has talent and gets repeat customers. She is still quite the bargain in France based on her age and services.

EP's biggest star years ago used to make regular tours of Dubai, although not under the EP flag.

Lisbon is a very low-priced locale for GFE services. It makes sense for its ladies to do tours of places like France.

[QUOTE=PER23;3008987]Branching out again and looking for some value for money encounters in the city, I came across Giorgia's profile on Mulheres. She goes by a few other names on different sites (Chloe on Eurogirls, for one), with different prices. I settled on 280 euros for two hours with whomever manages her number.

As for the venue, it's what can be best described as a knocking shop in Saldanha a few blocks away from El Corte Ingles. A nondescript building with a frosted glass door, and inside are 20 or so rooms with working girls in each one. Not my kind of place at all and I considered walking but Giorgia was pretty and polite enough for me to give it a shot.

Solid vanilla service ensued with multiple rounds of oral and intercourse. She's petite with large bolt-ons and a bit younger looking than her profile suggests. These types of Brazilian ladies are common in Lisbon but she's as attractive as most of the ladies at EP, at a much better price. Of course, these incalls are glorified pump and dump sessions so don't expect an outcall GFE, although she was very chill and friendly.[/QUOTE]This venue sounds amazing, could you possibly divulge further information as to where it is?

I contacted two providers from Mulhers. Their rates were 200/ HR which is OK, but they list FK and BBBJ as both extras at 100 each. So, if you take both, it comes to 400 and hour which is very, very high for Lisbon. To be fair these were lookers. However, I find when providers considers everything extra you usually get a bad session since it's all about money. Has anyone have an experience with these type of providers. I don't mind paying more if the service is exceptional.

[QUOTE=Nelgman;3013225]This venue sounds amazing, could you possibly divulge further information as to where it is?[/QUOTE]Av. Luis Bivar 8 a, not too far from the El Corte Ingles department store in Saldanha.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/rXwkD111HuqQkpgh6[/URL]

It's not a brothel (those are illegal here) where you can just walk in and get to look at a parade of ladies and choose one. I assume the ladies are all renting rooms by the hour and possibly operators to handle their bookings.

[QUOTE=Akibono;3013237]I contacted two providers from Mulhers. Their rates were 200/ HR which is OK, but they list FK and BBBJ as both extras at 100 each. So, if you take both, it comes to 400 and hour which is very, very high for Lisbon. To be fair these were lookers. However, I find when providers considers everything extra you usually get a bad session since it's all about money. Has anyone have an experience with these type of providers. I don't mind paying more if the service is exceptional.[/QUOTE]Would be helpful if you mention which providers. I've seen a lot of girls from this site recently. Generally, they have all been 150/ HR but I've been quoted 200 and 300 a couple of times. I think the ladies or whomever is managing them try their luck with higher prices if you contact them with a foreign number.

[QUOTE=PER23;3013269]Would be helpful if you mention which providers. I've seen a lot of girls from this site recently. Generally, they have all been 150/ HR but I've been quoted 200 and 300 a couple of times. I think the ladies or whomever is managing them try their luck with higher prices if you contact them with a foreign number.[/QUOTE]Lily and Melissa. They don't have reviews. How accurate are the reviews? I note that a lot of them are minutes apart.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=PER23;3013238]Av. Luis Bivar 8 a, not too far from the El Corte Ingles department store in Saldanha.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/rXwkD111HuqQkpgh6[/URL]

It's not a brothel (those are illegal here) where you can just walk in and get to look at a parade of ladies and choose one. I assume the ladies are all renting rooms by the hour and possibly operators to handle their bookings.[/QUOTE]The hotel I stayed in last year is 400 meters from that spot. Crazy.

[QUOTE=Akibono;3013293]Lily and Melissa. They don't have reviews. How accurate are the reviews? I note that a lot of them are minutes apart.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I reckon they're all fake. I left a positive review for a lady I saw and it was never approved and published.

[QUOTE=PER23;3013006]Sorry folks, it's another dud of a review. Looking for a young fitness bunny type, I contacted Lays / Lya via whatsapp and arranged for a 2 hour incall in the Arroios area, which I haven't been to before.

Unfortunately, the area is pretty grubby and full of immigrants. Not quite as bad as Martim Moniz and I wasn't there to take the census, but it wasn't a great start.[/QUOTE]I never been to that neighborhood, but it looks nice on GMaps street view. According to CityPopulation. De 70% of the population in that neighborhood or Parish is Portuguese.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;3013190]Flora has a fan club on the big American review board and the British one.

She fell out of favor here and on the local Portuguese board, apparently due to her higher prices and lack of responsiveness to messages and her being outcall only.

But she certainly has talent and gets repeat customers. She is still quite the bargain in France based on her age and services.

EP's biggest star years ago used to make regular tours of Dubai, although not under the EP flag.

Lisbon is a very low-priced locale for GFE services. It makes sense for its ladies to do tours of places like France.[/QUOTE]I was interested in Flora, but passed due to communication problems I read before. Looking back I should have seen her (or number of other girls) instead of Renata.

[QUOTE=PER23;3011595]We're talking about post op trans 'women' when it comes to these female-only escort sites and, unlike the pre-op "Chicks with dicks" on dating apps, they're unlikely to disclose it. There are three women on ApartodoX who I believe are trans:

Karol Dias.

Nahuria Valmonte / Hanna Linz.

Lolita Haze.

One (Nahuria / Hanna) I met in person and walked because her voice was as deep as mine. She claimed she was a former bodybuilder and steroid user and even showed me some old photos of her at the gym in her competing days. I love a fitness chick but I wasn't buying it in her case.[/QUOTE]Briefly circling back on this, there's actually a very long thread of reviews for Lolita on the local board which link to older profiles where she looks much more feminine than the current Apartadox photos, so I take back what I said.