Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=JPLove;2993944]I spent 10 days in the country back in August. Posted a detailed report on my trip here. Did 5 days in Pattaya and 5 in Bangkok. For background I am an early 30's white guy from NYC metro. Regarding your question about "brown" mongers, I will share my observations from my trip. Most of this pertains to Indian mongers, I'm not as sure how a black or African customer might be received.

In Pattaya Indian guys were stopped at the entrance to walking street gogo bars. I think most were not permitted to enter. I heard from some of these guys that bouncers apparently told them there was a 5 k baht entrance fee. I didn't have anything like this happen to me, just walked right into the gogo bars, no fee and no ID check. My hunch is that Indian guys will have an even harder time with P2 P in Pattaya than in Bangkok. The reason being that there are just a ton of Indians in Pattaya, and the girls / clubs tend to disfavor them as customers.

It's a similar story in Bangkok. I observed that near the entrance to nana plaza, many Indian guys would be stopped. Again, I had no issues and would just walk right into nana. But I saw other guys get stopped, questioned and they would have to show ID or maybe were even asked to pay an entrance fee. I did see a few Indian or "brown" guys inside the bars at Nana plaza..[/QUOTE]I am a mixed race, and for the last 5 years, I have been spending most of my time in India.

From what I can say, most Indians are self aware of what's going on.

Indians had been getting a bad rep for more than 2 decades in Thailand.

Rise of Social Media with messaging apps amplified it and there was some truth in it.

But, there are a lot of gogo bars, that don't mind them. They are mostly worried about a group of Indians.

I've seen a lot of Indian men pick up hot women from Nana and Soi Cowboy.

The thing they want is money.

The lower class of Indians, especially the ones who end up in Pattaya are offered cheap tour packages by Indian agents and thrown into a street full of dance / gogo bars and hookers lining up the street and.

They have never seen anything like that. So, they behave badly and since they lack any sense of personal space combined with their boy odor is annoying as hell. Then the fact that many of them have just about enough money to eat and get back to their return flight, will the bargain of the century.

This is very energy consuming.

But, there are Indians who through a lot of money away. I have seen in places like MIXX where Indians spend 20-40 k in just 2-3 hours.

[QUOTE=Grebe925;2994133]So an Indian fine seems natural. I have personally paid it at Crazy Horse even though it is humiliating but I understand the reason.[/QUOTE]Firstly, Crazy House has been charging the 500 baht entry fee from Indians since long before visa was exempted for Indians. On top of it, they make Indians pay double for a lady drink. Staff straight up asks them to ignore the price written on the menu.

Secondly, there are less racist ways to ensure the customer entering is a paying one. Baccara at Soi Cowboy asks, or at least used to ask, Indians to buy one drink each before entering. If that is not extravagant enough, as I have said many times before, adjustment of a [I]reasonable[/I] "entry fee" in the actual bar bill is one way. Easily doable with a coupon system. Even then, the freedom to take a quick look inside the bar is curtailed. But that is a more acceptable compromise.

Finally, please do not justify racism, even if it is against your own kind. I try my best to dress / smell fine, greet the staff with palms joined and be as ideal a customer as I can be without throwing wads of cash around. I do NOT deserve the suspicious and disgusting looks. The only saving grace is the fact that there are still plenty of women in Thailand who do not care about the color of my skin.

So this was last full day. Wake up late, did BF, went to rooftop pool had a wine while I was there and then comeback to room. Took shower and was sitting and Earthquake happened. Stayed in room, went under the table and once it stopped, picked up my passport came outside hotel in huddle area.

Entire hotel was standing and people were running and some were really scared. Some from buildings and hotels beyond our alley were still running and coming out.

Fear factor was high for an hour and then people started drinking beers in the bars.

But most of locals were not going back in.

I had an irish bar 3 minutes walking from my hotel and it had people sitting out and drinking beer. I too joined them. FYI. I am pretty used to EQ's where I live but this one was one of the scariest and longest I experienced.

I too went to a bar across the street from Irish bar and ordered beer.

Some of the patrons in the bar were a german couple, britt and American gentlemen and we just chatted and talked about what happened and shared some experiences.

My original plan was to LT / outcall a girl from Addict. I messaged mamamsan on line to confirm if the girls had started and no reply came. This was couple of hours after EQ. I went for lunch and decided to take some genuine massage. Searched on phone and had one relax spa (seems like a chain) and another one right across my hotel (almost a full building) showed up. Both were 5 minutes walking in opposite directions. Went to both and they were both closed.

It was at this time I realized the traffic was all stuck and BTS was also not running.

My OG plan of final day- of LT from addict in the afternoon, Soapy in evening and Billboard pickup from NP was all looking like falling apart.

I messaged few others on Line and most didn't responded and some responded like closed and few responded with pics of who all were available. BTS was not running, no cars were moving.

Behind my hotel is massage shops. All genuine and I decided lets go to one of those and get the massage.

Went for oil massage the guy took me in and washed my feet and then I told him that I want a female masseur. Since this was genuine massage I kept the undies. Lady came in and started the massage and told me to take off the underwear. Took it off. Massage started and it was a regular massage but on flip she asked me if I want a release. I said why not. She quoted me 2000. I said skip it. I didn't wanted it plus she was ok not a stunner and there was no way she would take her clothes off. There was a curtain that closed the massage area. Anyhow she said what I want to give. I said 600 for massage and 400 for her.

She started and gave me a HJ. She did it very discreetly and was paying close attention to outside noise while jerking me.

So I got a genuine massage and paid another 400 for HJ.

Came out and next to this shop was a bar with pool tables. I still had few hours to kill before heading to Soapy. Saw a real pretty girl sitting inside. I went and sat opposite her. Ordered beer and asked how does the pool thing work.

My focus was on the girl only. She looked like a local girl was dressed nicely with nails done well. I would have asked her to join me in drink but I stopped because she had 2 bottles of water on her table. I thought she was waiting for someone. Any how I had a beer to finish and I got drink for my waitress and other one as well and started pool with one of the waitress (she was like 50 ish) but all I was trying to do was.

1. See if I can strike a conversation with the girl sitting right across.

2. Ask the waitresses if they get FL's that hang out late at night.

Played 2 games and finished my beer and this girl was still sitting alone and then suddenly one of the 2 guys who were playing pool in adjacent table came and talked to this girl. Looked like her boyfriend but for last 35 minutes this dude didn't came to say Hi to her and she was dead bored all this time.

My plan was to ask her to join us for next game but glad I didn't. I asked the waitress and then gave me inconclusive answers if FL will be there at night. Wrapped up and left after beer and pool.

Now traffic was still there. I walked to thermae and it was closed.

Called La belle and no one was picking and IVR kept saying some stuff in Thai. I checked and Cab was showing 45 minutes and walking was 29 minutes. It was at this time I realized many things will be closed. I decided today is the day I spend all my time at Nana Plaza. Got ready walked and fuuuuccccccck. It was closed. The entire complex was dark.

I said let me pick someone from street. I decided to go back and pick someone on street. Talked with few but didn't liked anyone. Then outside thermae saw few beauties. I talked with few and checked them out. Finally like one 26 year old and she asked for 3 K for ST. Told her BJ with no condom ok but she was bad at English. Had another 40 year old who came over to explain it to her and she said ok. Then all of sudden old 40 year old said she too can join. I told her I only want younger one then all of a sudden she said money in advance.

I told older one I do not pay advance and ignored her. I talked directly to this younger girl. I gave her my hand and said I will take care of her and my hotel is 5 minutes walk. She stood and held my hand and we started walking. She was wearing right size heal, ripped jeans and tank top with pretty big boobs. She had that Girl next door look.

Walked to my hotel, went to room. Did some foreplay. Told here to undress in front of me. She took shower. I made myself a drink and she came out wrapped in towel. I then went for shower and when I came out she had turned of most of the lights. Started with BJ, she sucked great and I just kept asking her to do more and more. Very nice eye contact. Then did my usual Cowgirl, Doggy and then missionary with DFK. I made her give me a long BJ and then another 20 minutes of fucking. I finally came in with slow sensual missionary. Her pussy was just right amount of tight and she was pretty submissive.

Paid the money and said GN. Final day had a great ending.

It was a 4 day trip. Did missed out on Soapies and Billboard and also BC or Pimp. So next time.

I did used TF, WeChat, Telegram and Line. I will share my experience with all these in separate post. This forum is great and I had great time learning and exchanging notes from folks in this forum.

[QUOTE=Crater77;2994180]... Finally like one 26 year old and she asked for 3 K for ST. Told her BJ with no condom ok but she was bad at English. Had another 40 year old who came over to explain it to her and she said ok. Then all of sudden old 40 year old said she too can join. I told her I only want younger one then all of a sudden she said money in advance....

I did used TF, WeChat, Telegram and Line. I will share my experience with all these in separate post. This forum is great and I had great time learning and exchanging notes from folks in this forum.[/QUOTE]Thanks for writing the reports. Glad you enjoyed your stay.

Suggest you add at least one more app to your smartphone: Google Translate. That will allow you to communicate with Thai ladies using either translated text or translated voice. It even has a camera function that will translate words on signs, menus, etc. It's not perfect but it works pretty good and will eliminate dealing with interpreters. It's indispensable when trying to make arrangements with the deaf freelancers on Soi 4 and other places.

I had a good time last year hoping to make another trip this year. Are things still closed like Nana, Soi Cowboy? Are prices going up due to the earthquake?

Bro. Things in Thailand are ok.

NP and other MP's were closed only for the day when EQ happened and most likely because of traffic delays and train stoppage. Assuming ladies and wait staff were unable to make it in time for 7 pm opening. Earthquake happened around 1 pm.

It was a very normal morning the next day, as I flew out the next afternoon.

Luckily no major casualties in Thailand. Burma thought got hot really hard.

[QUOTE=Mushamisi;2994240]I had a good time last year hoping to make another trip this year. Are things still closed like Nana, Soi Cowboy? Are prices going up due to the earthquake?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2994193]Indians have always been known as the cultural leaders when it comes to partying. That's a playa mentality. There is a saying that goes "ain't no party like an Indian party, because a Piddy party ain't shit. " Take the Air Asia flight that made news several months ago when Punjabs were living it up on the flight to Thailand. In some of the videos circulating online, you can tell that the Thai air hostesses we're having a blast and probably enjoyed having secret photos taken of them from underneath their skirts. Maybe even got them dripping wet at that altitude. Word is that perhaps one of my fellow Indian buddies may have taken a Thai Air Asia flight attendant into the tiny bathroom to join the mile high club. Thai girls love these type of extroverts. Makes Thai girls horny. It means CONFIDENCE. A must have in Thai society. No need to hide behind drunkenness and 40 or more drinks. I would say they look down on those who have to go that route. Because it's called "getting played". Here is a clip from that flight. No rules need be abided. It's Thailand after all. LOL.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BRKmuD3Sr9Y[/URL][/QUOTE]Well this may be partly true. While people from isaan are always up for a party, people from the north, center, and South are generally more reserved and less likely to enjoy those types of festivities except on rare occasions.

I could be in Error but it does make sense.

Myanmar epicenter was 7. 7 on the Scale of Beauty.

The Beauty that took down the Chatuchuk build rated a 4. 4. in other words sn Ugly.

Calm Down.

On the other hand Water falling from the Rooftop Pool and numerous building cracks shown by you tubers are Concerning.

My preference is mostly freelance from bars or TF, however on this occasion I did pay a visit to Secret Kiss, and can say had an awesome experience and highly recommend it. Attached is their menu. I only went for the 40 min BJ. Also tried Fantasy 8 which provide full service, nice place and lovely girls.

Mate of mine wanted to try Nancy, no longer a soapy, this is a super expensive place and very pushy sales reps.

Oscars wine bar is one of my hangouts and was shocked to hear the ladies asking for 10 k LT, goes without saying I didn't pursue. Anyone else experienced this?

[QUOTE=Mushamisi;2994240]I had a good time last year hoping to make another trip this year. Are things still closed like Nana, Soi Cowboy? Are prices going up due to the earthquake?[/QUOTE]I was in Nana Plaza the day after the earthquake (Saturday). It was packed, hard to tell anything had happened.

[QUOTE=DeepThoughts7;2993539] I will go to the high end places La Belle, Poseidon, etc. I have also read that the escort services are nothing special so I will avoid them.[/QUOTE]According to Google, La Belle's 2nd last review: "closed permanently it has moved or associated about 1.3 km new name "Acqua."

Googling Poseidon and filtering for most recent reviews, it seems the place has lost its lustre. Multiple reports of people being pressured and rushed to finish up really quickly and not receiving the 90 mins as quoted and paid.

There's mentions of massage club "Black Caviar" which in their google reviews, someone posted a picture of the price list which is 7,700 -12,500 baht for 'Beautiful girl in luxury style' and then 16,500 up to a staggering 36,000 baht for 'Beautiful girl, supermodel style' (translated their menu) Latest review states 'no Thai bath service'.

Also mentions of "Marias Massage" with reviews and prices similar.

I guess as with everything YMMV according to any number of random things.

I think I'd rather pull 2 top tier STs from Nanas or elsewhere instead of 8 k in one of these 'high-end' establishments.

Anyone that has had a romp in any of these venues, I'd love to hear the feedback or link to previous reports.

[QUOTE=Shikhar10;2994162]

Finally, please do not justify racism, even if it is against your own kind. I try my best to dress / smell fine, greet the staff with palms joined and be as ideal a customer as I can be without throwing wads of cash around. I do NOT deserve the suspicious and disgusting looks. The only saving grace is the fact that there are still plenty of women in Thailand who do not care about the color of my skin.[/QUOTE]It's not racism. It's just the way it is. I have friends running bars in India itself who complain about guys buying just one beer & holding onto it for hours just to mingle with the hip crowd. These are educated guys so imagine those from mofussil towns who've never been out of India suddenly landing up in Bangkok & Pattaya. I've been going to Thailand for more than two decades so I can see the marked difference in the quality of the Indian clientele since the visa free entry was instituted. Of course there are exceptions to the rule. Thai women don't discriminate on skin color, they discriminate on the attitude of the people of that skin color.

[QUOTE=ThreeLilBirds;2994303]

Also mentions of "Marias Massage" with reviews and prices similar.

I guess as with everything YMMV according to any number of random things.

I think I'd rather pull 2 top tier STs from Nanas or elsewhere instead of 8 k in one of these 'high-end' establishments.

Anyone that has had a romp in any of these venues, I'd love to hear the feedback or link to previous reports.[/QUOTE]I visited Marias about a year ago at around 7 PM. As you said the prices are close to 10 K Baht for a session. Used to frequent Lords pre-Covid that was considered one of the higher end places with prices around 3 K-4 K if I'm not mistaken. Compared to the latter, I saw little difference to justify triple the price for the girls in the lineup. The girl I chose were pretty but if you tried a little you could pick someone similar in regular go-go's.

[QUOTE=Grebe925;2994338]I visited Marias about a year ago at around 7 PM. As you said the prices are close to 10 K Baht for a session. Used to frequent Lords pre-Covid that was considered one of the higher end places with prices around 3 K-4 K if I'm not mistaken. Compared to the latter, I saw little difference to justify triple the price for the girls in the lineup. The girl I chose were pretty but if you tried a little you could pick someone similar in regular go-go's.[/QUOTE]My memory says that Lord's Palace was about 6 K to 12 K in about 2017.

In the States, I am a strip club goer. Generally prefer them over massage places. I like the vibe of naked girls dancing so I like these two in Soi Cowboy though not all get totally naked on stage. CH seems to be stricter than BB in that I saw a guy get reprimanded for reaching down between the legs when being given a lap dance at his seat. At BB I bought drinks for two fit, tattooed ladies and I had my hands all over them. The day before earthquake, I took the one with an explicit tatt on her thigh upstairs -3 K plus 800 BF plus 500 room. I just assumed she could take a pounding but she tapped-out before I could finish. Still a great time.