Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=JPLove;2993944]I spent 10 days in the country back in August. Posted a detailed report on my trip here. Did 5 days in Pattaya and 5 in Bangkok. For background I am an early 30's white guy from NYC metro. Regarding your question about "brown" mongers, I will share my observations from my trip. Most of this pertains to Indian mongers, I'm not as sure how a black or African customer might be received.

In Pattaya Indian guys were stopped at the entrance to walking street gogo bars. I think most were not permitted to enter. I heard from some of these guys that bouncers apparently told them there was a 5 k baht entrance fee. I didn't have anything like this happen to me, just walked right into the gogo bars, no fee and no ID check. My hunch is that Indian guys will have an even harder time with P2 P in Pattaya than in Bangkok. The reason being that there are just a ton of Indians in Pattaya, and the girls / clubs tend to disfavor them as customers.

It's a similar story in Bangkok. I observed that near the entrance to nana plaza, many Indian guys would be stopped. Again, I had no issues and would just walk right into nana. But I saw other guys get stopped, questioned and they would have to show ID or maybe were even asked to pay an entrance fee. I did see a few Indian or "brown" guys inside the bars at Nana plaza. From speaking with the girls at Bangkok gogo bars, however, I had a few girls tell me that they will not get off the stage if an Indian guy buys them a drink.

Not trying to discourage or anyone or start any shit. Just my honest observations from the trip. I was surprised with how poorly Indian customers seemed to be treated by the bars / girls given how prevalent Indians are in Bangkok and Pattaya especially. Anyways, food for thought before you get on a plane and spend your time / money visiting Thailand.[/QUOTE]Are people of Indian origin from US (with American Passport) treated differently? I just happen to be one. I have lived in United States all my adult life and I am in my mid 40's. I get where you are coming from as I know the mentality all too well. I have been itching to go to Bangkok and have been day dreaming of a vacation there. All day I talk about traveling to Bangkok and will talk to anyone who will listen, and even those that won't listen.

I will not be going in a group with lot of guys. Just me by myself and maybe another friend (maybe) who knows about my dalliances.

[QUOTE=SinCitySinner1;2994383]Are people of Indian origin from US (with American Passport) treated differently? I just happen to be one. I have lived in United States all my adult life and I am in my mid 40's. I get where you are coming from as I know the mentality all too well. I have been itching to go to Bangkok and have been day dreaming of a vacation there. All day I talk about traveling to Bangkok and will talk to anyone who will listen, and even those that won't listen.

I will not be going in a group with lot of guys. Just me by myself and maybe another friend (maybe) who knows about my dalliances.[/QUOTE]Sorry dude, but Thai people don't or can't make that distinction. Accents matter little to them. I've seen it where an Indian dude was stopped entering a Nana bar. The time I saw it, was one of the bars on the second floor. I never thought it real until I saw it with my own eyes, like dudes of all kinds were streaming in to the establishment and suddenly the bouncer just stopped the one Indian guy, nothing said, just stopped him and said he can't go in.

I've fucked Thai girls from here in the States, in Singapore's Geylang, and all over Bangkok, and I can tell you that most Thai people, especially the bargirls, don't really comprehend that a person's race can be different than their nationality. If you try to explain to them, for example that a Japanese person can be from Hawaii, or a Korean person can be from LA, or an Egyptian person can be from Australia, it just won't compute. To them you are Indian, so you must be from India. A typical Nana Plaza bouncer, will definitely just see you as an Indian. You can speak English with an American accent all you want, it won't make a lick of difference. Not saying that Thai's are racists, but a lot of them bar girls don't ever get the chance for a good education, not their fault really. Also, skin color really matters in Thailand, like literally. Thai girls be trying all kinds of skin whitening methods.

It's a weird south East Asian thing, kinda like the inverse of how white chicks all over the UK and the States are obsessed about tanning. Just goes to show you nobody's ever happy with themselves anywhere. Still though, I'd sell my soul to go back to Thailand.

You gotta look at it from their perspective. Imagine telling them that somewhere out there, exists Thai people that don't speak Thai. Holy cow, how will that ever make sense to them?

All that being said though, if you have the cash, then try the Pimp. The only thing they speak there is money. No caring about skin color there, the only thing that matters is green. You'll be treated like a king as long as you pony up.

I just did solo trip. Indian origin having US passport. All went well. Read my FR's.

As long as you are respectful it should be ok.

I would suggest do not be cheap Charlie but at same time hold your line on greedy waitresses and bouncers asking for drinks.

[QUOTE=SinCitySinner1;2994383]Are people of Indian origin from US (with American Passport) treated differently? I just happen to be one. I have lived in United States all my adult life and I am in my mid 40's. I get where you are coming from as I know the mentality all too well. I have been itching to go to Bangkok and have been day dreaming of a vacation there. All day I talk about traveling to Bangkok and will talk to anyone who will listen, and even those that won't listen.

I will not be going in a group with lot of guys. Just me by myself and maybe another friend (maybe) who knows about my dalliances.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SinCitySinner1;2994383]Are people of Indian origin from US (with American Passport) treated differently? I just happen to be one. I have lived in United States all my adult life and I am in my mid 40's. I get where you are coming from as I know the mentality all too well. I have been itching to go to Bangkok and have been day dreaming of a vacation there. All day I talk about traveling to Bangkok and will talk to anyone who will listen, and even those that won't listen.

I will not be going in a group with lot of guys. Just me by myself and maybe another friend (maybe) who knows about my dalliances.[/QUOTE]Bangkok has multiple avenues for pleasure. So first, the places wher there is no discrimination, all massage parlours, all soapy establishment, all nuru places, thermae, freelnacers. The reason for this is, you pay and take services and its over. The business cycle is completed both sides giving their due. Now comes, the places, not all but few, as my fellow brothers keep setting higher milestones of low behaviour. These are few gogo bars, who in my opinion, are fully justified to do so. Notwithstanding, it should not discourage you, like it does not discourage me. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=ThreeLilBirds;2994303]According to Google, La Belle's 2nd last review: "closed permanently it has moved or associated about 1.3 km new name "Acqua."

Googling Poseidon and filtering for most recent reviews, it seems the place has lost its lustre. Multiple reports of people being pressured and rushed to finish up really quickly and not receiving the 90 mins as quoted and paid.

There's mentions of massage club "Black Caviar" which in their google reviews, someone posted a picture of the price list which is 7,700 -12,500 baht for 'Beautiful girl in luxury style' and then 16,500 up to a staggering 36,000 baht for 'Beautiful girl, supermodel style' (translated their menu) Latest review states 'no Thai bath service'.

Also mentions of "Marias Massage" with reviews and prices similar.

I guess as with everything YMMV according to any number of random things.

I think I'd rather pull 2 top tier STs from Nanas or elsewhere instead of 8 k in one of these 'high-end' establishments.

Anyone that has had a romp in any of these venues, I'd love to hear the feedback or link to previous reports.[/QUOTE]I had read that review befor my visit and was confused. Still I went. Read my review also. Its open and in full swing.

[QUOTE=Larbmoo555;2994280]I was in Nana Plaza the day after the earthquake (Saturday). It was packed, hard to tell anything had happened.[/QUOTE]Good to know.

So I've been living in BKK for over a year now and could not help but scratch the itch. Being a mongering from California, GPS is nonexistent here in my eyes.

I walked into Ola ola massage on a Wednesday after seeing some good reviews about them. The mamasan was very welcoming and the girls on the outside weren't too good but I figured ill have them line up and see if they can catch my eye standing up.

I immediately gravitated towards a girl named "Happy", at least I think that's her name, I don't remember haha. She was by far the cutest and stood at about 5'5 with long milky legs. She looks like Jennie from the girl group Blackpink, but with blonde hair and a splash of Thai mixed in.

Turns out she's a VIP and was quoted 2500 instead of the standard 2200 for a normal FS 30 min. Now I don't know if VIP is a real thing but she's definitely worth the extra 300 looks wise.

We go in the room, standard shower, and off to the bed.

Her skin is the smoothest silkiest skin I have ever felt. Not a single blemish on it and its clear that she goes to great lengths to take care of herself. Her body is nice and curvy and yet, skinny. The good old body we look for, flat stomach, a nice handful for the breasts and a nice bubbly ass.

I am deathly scared of STDs (I know I monger, but its an addiction at this point), so I asked for a covered BJ and she still was putting in the work to get junior standing at attention.

We start off with mish and she feels nice and snug, I am not well endowed in the slightest, so being snug for me is tight for others haha. I switch over to doggy and the sight of her ass clapping against me as she moans is something that made me moving over here worth it.

I bust in doggy and we chit chat for a bit before I left.

WIR? Yes, I HAD to grab her line because this a gal ID like to see more than once while I live here.

Face: 8.8.

Body: 9.3.

Service: 8.7.

If any mongers in their 20's or 30's live in Bangkok, please feel free to reach out! Going solo is fun but I've been going solo since I started and would love to connect with like minded individuals.

Crater77, Ranvir and Newton York- Thanks for your contribution and perspective.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2994400]Sorry dude, but Thai people don't or can't make that distinction. Accents matter little to them. I've seen it where an Indian dude was stopped entering a Nana bar. The time I saw it, was one of the bars on the second floor. I never thought it real until I saw it with my own eyes, like dudes of all kinds were streaming in to the establishment and suddenly the bouncer just stopped the one Indian guy, nothing said, just stopped him and said he can't go in..[/QUOTE]Yes, I've experienced it. When on my first ever visit to nana plaza, I went in a group of 4 , denied entry to Geisha, and the other few I forgot name. Straps or I forgot name on the first floor.

But when I was solo mongering the other visit, all allowed in nana except the straps on the first floor right beside the staircase. It is little awkward to be denied entry but yeah I know what they face while being denied.

The trick is to be solo.

[QUOTE=ThreeLilBirds;2994303]According to Google, La Belle's 2nd last review: "closed permanently it has moved or associated about 1.3 km new name "Acqua."

Googling Poseidon and filtering for most recent reviews, it seems the place has lost its lustre. Multiple reports of people being pressured and rushed to finish up really quickly and not receiving the 90 mins as quoted and paid.

There's mentions of massage club "Black Caviar" which in their google reviews, someone posted a picture of the price list which is 7,700 -12,500 baht for 'Beautiful girl in luxury style' and then 16,500 up to a staggering 36,000 baht for 'Beautiful girl, supermodel style' (translated their menu) Latest review states 'no Thai bath service'.

Also mentions of "Marias Massage" with reviews and prices similar.

I guess as with everything YMMV according to any number of random things.[/QUOTE]I have been here twice and both times took the best looking girls 10/10. I chose from the high end luxury girls that don't sit in the fishbowl, but on the side. You can call girls to your table and have a chat and then decide if you want to go ahead with it. Best to ask the mamasan for suggestions.

[QUOTE=JohnnyBoy3212;2994496]So I've been living in BKK for over a year now and could not help but scratch the itch. Being a mongering from California, GPS is nonexistent here in my eyes.

I walked into Ola ola massage on a Wednesday after seeing some good reviews about them. The mamasan was very welcoming and the girls on the outside weren't too good but I figured ill have them line up and see if they can catch my eye standing up.

I immediately gravitated towards a girl named "Happy", at least I think that's her name, I don't remember haha. She was by far the cutest and stood at about 5'5 with long milky legs. She looks like Jennie from the girl group Blackpink, but with blonde hair and a splash of Thai mixed in.

Turns out she's a VIP and was quoted 2500 instead of the standard 2200 for a normal FS 30 min. Now I don't know if VIP is a real thing but she's definitely worth the extra 300 looks wise.

We go in the room, standard shower, and off to the bed.

Her skin is the smoothest silkiest skin I have ever felt. Not a single blemish on it and its clear that she goes to great lengths to take care of herself. Her body is nice and curvy and yet, skinny. The good old body we look for, flat stomach, a nice handful for the breasts and a nice bubbly ass.

I am deathly scared of STDs (I know I monger, but its an addiction at this point), so I asked for a covered BJ and she still was putting in the work to get junior standing at attention.

We start off with mish and she feels nice and snug, I am not well endowed in the slightest, so being snug for me is tight for others haha. I switch over to doggy and the sight of her ass clapping against me as she moans is something that made me moving over here worth it.

I bust in doggy and we chit chat for a bit before I left.

WIR? Yes, I HAD to grab her line because this a gal ID like to see more than once while I live here.

Face: 8.8.

Body: 9.3.

Service: 8.7.

If any mongers in their 20's or 30's live in Bangkok, please feel free to reach out! Going solo is fun but I've been going solo since I started and would love to connect with like minded individuals.[/QUOTE]Also from CA here too. Visiting late April. How long you in town for? I'm staying on sukhumvit 15 right by thermae LOL.

If you're still spending all your nights in the tourist zones thinking that's the peak Bangkok experience, you may want to try something new.

Some of the best ladies and the best attitudes are hiding in the places the tour groups don't even know exist:

• Local massage parlors: The vibe is real. No hard sells, no jaded looks. Girls actually want to have fun. Prices? Yeah, a little easier, but it's the attitude that makes it magic. This has been my experience.

•Neighborhood karaoke bars: You're not another walking ATM here. You're a guest. The girls are playful, the smiles are natural, and if there's chemistry, it's more genuine in my experience.

And here's the kicker, even as a farang, you can clean up in these spots if you know how to carry yourself.

You walk in like a normal human being, show some manners, a little charm, and you'll get better treatment than half the Thais. Girls in these places appreciate guys who are cool, who aren't acting like drunk idiots.

Example:

Last week I ducked into a small massage shop in my neighborhood. No huge flashing sign, no "supermodel" lineup at the door. Just normal, friendly girls. Walked in, picked a sweet one with a real smile, not the fake "pay me now" grin. She giggled when I told her in Thai I might leave a tip depending on her "performance. ".

Let's just say by the time we were done, the only thing missing was the wedding vows. No clock-watching. No upselling. No drama. A wonderful GFE and not even one mention of a condom. Tooms you need to do this more often.

I'm a farang, but it didn't matter. When you hit the right local spots, they treat you based on your vibe.

Bottom line:

If you're chasing real connections and real fun and you're not a complete tool, you can change it up and start playing where Bangkok actually lives. It's out there. You just have to stop thinking like a tourist and act like you belong. Learn some basic Thai.

How to find these places. I simply use google maps. I also check out Facebook and search for them in my area. It's a pleasant change to all the tourist places. I mix it up.

And of course, don't Overpay. Always read way back in the forum to double check any information that someone gives you, especially when the information is coming from folks who like to pretend they are experts by regurgitating the same stuff that's been on this board for years.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2994910]If you're still spending all your nights in the tourist zones thinking that's the peak Bangkok experience, you may want to try something new.

Some of the best ladies and the best attitudes are hiding in the places the tour groups don't even know exist:

Local massage parlors: The vibe is real. No hard sells, no jaded looks. Girls actually want to have fun. Prices? Yeah, a little easier, but it's the attitude that makes it magic. This has been my experience.

Neighborhood karaoke bars: You're not another walking ATM here. You're a guest. The girls are playful, the smiles are natural, and if there's chemistry, it's more genuine in my experience.

And here's the kicker, even as a farang, you can clean up in these spots if you know how to carry yourself.

You walk in like a normal human being, show some manners, a little charm, and you'll get better treatment than half the Thais. Girls in these places appreciate guys who are cool, who aren't acting like drunk idiots.

Example:

Last week I ducked into a small massage shop in my neighborhood. No huge flashing sign, no "supermodel" lineup at the door. Just normal, friendly girls. Walked in, picked a sweet one with a real smile, not the fake "pay me now" grin. She giggled when I told her in Thai I might leave a tip depending on her "performance. ".

Let's just say by the time we were done, the only thing missing was the wedding vows. No clock-watching. No upselling. No drama. A wonderful GFE and not even one mention of a condom. Tooms you need to do this more often.

I'm a farang, but it didn't matter. When you hit the right local spots, they treat you based on your vibe.

Bottom line:

If you're chasing real connections and real fun and you're not a complete tool, you can change it up and start playing where Bangkok actually lives. It's out there. You just have to stop thinking like a tourist and act like you belong. Learn some basic Thai.

How to find these places. I simply use google maps. I also check out Facebook and search for them in my area. It's a pleasant change to all the tourist places. I mix it up.[/QUOTE]This is good advice. Many people are "sheep" when it comes to travel. They do what everyone else is doing and go where all the tourist are. They eat at McDonald's, KFC, Taco Bell, Burger King and Western style places. They don't care about Thai culture. They just complain and talk about Thai culture, the food, the music, the traditions negatively. That's a little disrespectful if you ask me. I like the local scene. The less foreigners the better. I don't need to hang around them. That's not why I travel the world to look for fellow countrymen and other westerners to hang with them. I don't learn anything from them but arrogance and entitlement and I don't need that shit.

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