Moscow

[QUOTE=OblikoMoralee;1927054]Not sure why my previous message was treated as "private", while it was not private at all since it wasn't directed to the specific user (though was a reply to one) but to everyone on the thread. My point was, if [I]anyone[/I] on the forum wants my assistance as Russian speaker, he can (respectfully to forum rules) pm me. Information of interest to all readers on this thread, I guess.[/QUOTE]Obliko,

We can't PM you. I imagine you are not a paying member? I would love to get more information and help from you.

[QUOTE=JonathanPine;1926410]For the guys that come to Moscow only for sex reasons, and stay for a week or two, speak no Russian, you're bloody too late. 15 years too late. Sure you can spend hours a day, everyday for weeks prior to coming to Moscow trying to arrange for paid sex. But why bother? Moscow is expensive and lots of headache if one doesn't speak the language to navigate the city. For the same amount of money or less, you can stay in your home countries and get Russian hookers, strip dancers.

I assume the reason that guys still come because they still have the illusion of finding a mail order bride type of girl that gets her pussy all wet when seeing a foreign man. I have bad news for you. You're bloody too late. My advice for you guys is to stay home, don't bother coming to Moscow or Russia. But if you're stubborn and insisting to come and see the real situation with your own eyes, then my advice is to go to Night Flight and pick up a copy of Moscow Times. Yes it's in bloody English. Go to the last page. There are a couple escort agency ads.

Yes yes I know you can also go to dance clubs to meet girls. But if you can pull it off, you should be able to pull it off back home, too. Might actually be easier and cheaper.

Nobody likes to accept the reality that pussies no longer grow on trees in Russia. But we can't turn back the clock. Russia has moved on, and so should us. If one insist to something about it, then I suggest to switch to drive a more fuel efficient car back home, turn the thermostat a few degrees lower in winter. Then we might have a slight chance to turn back the clock a bit.

Or you can try to learn Russian.[/QUOTE]I think its the most accurate current description of Moscow mongering scene. This post should be considered similar to double espresso in the morning.

[QUOTE=JonathanPine;1926410]For the guys that come to Moscow only for sex reasons, and stay for a week or two, speak no Russian, you're bloody too late. 15 years too late. Sure you can spend hours a day, everyday for weeks prior to coming to Moscow trying to arrange for paid sex. But why bother? Moscow is expensive and lots of headache if one doesn't speak the language to navigate the city. For the same amount of money or less, you can stay in your home countries and get Russian hookers, strip dancers.

I assume the reason that guys still come because they still have the illusion of finding a mail order bride type of girl that gets her pussy all wet when seeing a foreign man. I have bad news for you. You're bloody too late. My advice for you guys is to stay home, don't bother coming to Moscow or Russia. But if you're stubborn and insisting to come and see the real situation with your own eyes, then my advice is to go to Night Flight and pick up a copy of Moscow Times. Yes it's in bloody English. Go to the last page. There are a couple escort agency ads.

Yes yes I know you can also go to dance clubs to meet girls. But if you can pull it off, you should be able to pull it off back home, too. Might actually be easier and cheaper.

Nobody likes to accept the reality that pussies no longer grow on trees in Russia. But we can't turn back the clock. Russia has moved on, and so should us. If one insist to something about it, then I suggest to switch to drive a more fuel efficient car back home, turn the thermostat a few degrees lower in winter. Then we might have a slight chance to turn back the clock a bit.

Or you can try to learn Russian.[/QUOTE]I agree with you 100%.

[QUOTE=OblikoMoralee;1927054]Not sure why my previous message was treated as "private", while it was not private at all since it wasn't directed to the specific user (though was a reply to one) but to everyone on the thread. My point was, if [I]anyone[/I] on the forum wants my assistance as Russian speaker, he can (respectfully to forum rules) pm me. Information of interest to all readers on this thread, I guess.[/QUOTE]Hi,

PM on this site requires a paying account.

Email addresses are not allowed on posts.

I would be very interested in the help you suggest.

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[QUOTE=JonathanPine;1926410] But why bother? Moscow is expensive and lots of headache if one doesn't speak the language to navigate the city. For the same amount of money or less, you can stay in your home countries and get Russian hookers, strip dancers.

[/QUOTE]In my last trip to Germany I went to a Puff, there I was talking to a Romanian hooker about Germany and Russia during one break between the act, and she said they used to have a Russian girl in that Puff, but she left to a better place (upgrading) a FKK flat rate club in Bavaria, whatever it might be. Well anyway she said local German and Romenian WGs don't always get along with some Russians because they seem to be more popular among German mongers. Once in Cologne I was in another Puff and I had a very young blond Russian student, oh man I can tell you, she did everything I wanted, and she seemed to be a newbie according to the way she behaved, you could feel that odor of fresh meat. I went to the same place again after 1 year. But she was not working there anymore and the Puffmutti was angry, because I left the place without ordering any of the other girls. She probably got upgraded too, or married a German Hartzler)))

[QUOTE=WingForwing;1932456]In my last trip to Germany I went to a Puff, there I was talking to a Romanian hooker about Germany and Russia during one break between the act, and she said they used to have a Russian girl in that Puff, but she left to a better place (upgrading) a FKK flat rate club in Bavaria, whatever it might be. Well anyway she said local German and Romenian WGs don't always get along with some Russians because they seem to be more popular among German mongers. Once in Cologne I was in another Puff and I had a very young blond Russian student, oh man I can tell you, she did everything I wanted, and she seemed to be a newbie according to the way she behaved, you could feel that odor of fresh meat. I went to the same place again after 1 year. But she was not working there anymore and the Puffmutti was angry, because I left the place without ordering any of the other girls. She probably got upgraded too, or married a German Hartzler)))[/QUOTE]Ah yes, once you are spoiled by Russian fresh meat, it is hard to be satisfied by anything else. September in Moscow (and Kiev) is magical because there is always a fresh crop of students from the provinces.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1933380]Ah yes, once you are spoiled by Russian fresh meat, it is hard to be satisfied by anything else. September in Moscow (and Kiev) is magical because there is always a fresh crop of students from the provinces.[/QUOTE]Hi Jake and all,

Talking about students. Where are these days the places and cafes in Moscow where you can meet the crop of students? Any hints?

Cheers,

Liabatyd14

[QUOTE=Liabatyd14;1935536]Hi Jake and all,

Talking about students. Where are these days the places and cafes in Moscow where you can meet the crop of students? Any hints?

Cheers,

Liabatyd14[/QUOTE]If you have spent any time at all reading this forum, you would have learned that one of the best student hang outs (for our purposes) in Moscow is Papas Place located at Nikolskaya St, 10.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1936158]If you have spent any time at all reading this forum, you would have learned that one of the best student hang outs (for our purposes) in Moscow is Papas Place located at Nikolskaya St, 10.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Did not know this was still actual. Good to know.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1926100]I can't speak for Chercheur, but I certainly HOPE we are not the typical mongers to Russia. It's clear that I (we) have struck a nerve with you when it comes to the Russian language. I am not suggesting that the new monger to Russia invest a ton of time learning the language. However, whatever time he DOES invest in learning a little "survival Russian" is time well spent. I know several guys who have lived in Russia for nearly 20 years and STILL don't speak a word of Russian. Yet, they seem to have no trouble finding girlfriends. What ever works for you, works for you. For me, learning Russian has worked wonders for my sex life in Russia. Is it absolutely necessary? No, of course not. It's merely opens a dimension of options and experiences that are not available to those who don't have a working knowledge of the language. That's it.

By the way, I have only been visiting Russia for 10 years. Not 20 as you stated.[/QUOTE]IMHO "speaking russian" in mongering is just an "urban legend", a myth. Either you LIVE in Russia at least for some months and it is obviously helpful.

But as a tourist (or a monger) it is not. You just need "survival russian" (asking directions, reading signs of Metro stations, understanding menus in restaurants etc).

As for communication with average russian women, if they speak only a little your language, let them talk! You are not here to practice your (fresh) russian, but to show that you like to hear this woman speaking even bad your language. It helps a lot to put her in your bed!

Anyway if you can not have (spontaneously) a long discussion with your woman in russian or in your language, you save time and efforts! What other things can you do both together?

And in the meantime, while we discuss about fakettes or not fakettes, learning Russian or not learning Russian.

The real Miss Moscow is offering escort services in Dubai, in perfect English ha ha. This world is unfair)

[QUOTE=WingForwing;1937631]And in the meantime, while we discuss about fakettes or not fakettes, learning Russian or not learning Russian.

The real Miss Moscow is offering escort services in Dubai, in perfect English ha ha. This world is unfair)[/QUOTE]Absolutely true man: There is so much Russian pussy in Dubai that it outnumbers all other WGs and lets say all together is equal to Russian women in DXB.

Such a true anecdote.

Cheers.

Spoiler alert. Don't bother to read any further as there was no sessions to report. Only disappointments from a visit to Penthouse and Vanilia Massage (Arbat).

I had convinced myself that I was just going to hang out in my hotel room after long couple of days but decided, wrongly, that I should check out Penthouse as I was close by and then maybe walk over to Vanilia to get a nice massage. Well, I did make it to both but if I had to do over again, I would have stayed in and saved myself 3000 rub and a near mugging.

So, let's see as briefly as possible.

- Took a taxi from the Radisson Slavaskya to Penthouse as it was raining. Taxi driver ripped me off by charging 900 rub for a 5 min ride. Strike 1.

- Entered the Penthouse club and had to pay 2000 rub cover. Read the cover was 1000 rub and said so but the girl insisted 2000 rub. Perhaps my info is old. Anyways, about 12 guys and about 20 girls. Some definite hotties in there. I sat at the bar and asked to get a drink at which point the bar tender said "One second" and never came back. I had a nice looking blonde come up to me and did the usual, where are you from, etc. Then hit me with a "let's go to room and play". I asked what the cost was and she said 10000 rub for her and 5000 rub for the house for 1 hour. WOW! No thanks! At this point, I decided I didn't want to stick around. The vibe of the club was not good for me so I decided to leave. At the exit the security guys who patted me down asked "Tip for security". Uh. No! - Strike 2.

- Checked Google Maps and Vanilia was a short walk away and walked over there. Well, there were a line of 5 guys waiting and I decided to head back to the hotel. I was in a bummed out mood and decided to walk. It was now 2 am in the morning but New Arbat St is nicely lit. I was almost back to the hotel when two Russian guys were walking the opposite direction of me and one of them decided to grab my arm and said somethin in Russian and I pushed him away and quickly sprinted to the hotel. Luckily they didn't follow. Strike 3 and 4 . So I am out already per baseball parlance.

Bottom line, compared to my first trip to Moscow and Vanilia this was a huge disappointment. I think fun can still be had in Moscow. I chalk this up to an off night.

[QUOTE=FredZee;1938348]Spoiler alert. Don't bother to read any further as there was no sessions to report. Only disappointments from a visit to Penthouse and Vanilia Massage (Arbat).[/QUOTE]Man, I am really sorry to hear about your bad experience. Security tip? WTF? Never heard of such a thing. That and the near mugging indicate to me that the economic situation may have worsened to the point where people are trying stupid shit. I assure you, this sort of thing is not typical. I think you got it right; you had a bad night. Hope you have better luck next time.

When being in Moscow I usually check the local escort directories such as [URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/[/URL] , [URL]http://otsos2.com/[/URL], [URL]http://devochki10.com/[/URL] and [URL]http://msk-prostitutok.net/[/URL].

Usually these sites are a hit or a miss. I usually do not trust the too glamorous studio pictures but give it a try with ladies who post more natural photos or even selfies. I also enjoy the video clips you can find in many profiles, which also increase the chance the lady you are going to meet is really the one who uploaded the profile.

I also have good experiences with finding escorts on some international escort directories such as renowned sits City of Love and Punterlink. The advantage is that girls speak often better English than the ones you will find only through the local directories. Downside is that often agencies post fake photos on such international directory sites. I had a very memorable date with a lady of the agency I found here: [URL]http://www.slavic-companions.com/international-erotic-services-nightlife/russia/moscow-escorts-call-girls/young-and-pretty[/URL] I met actually the girl of the pics: Angela. She was recommended by the agency operator (who was very kind and patient with me) because she speaks fair English and seem to be willing to offer what I was looking for: a genuine GFE with deep French kissing and oral without. She happened to be a lovely young doll, similar as in the pictures with a slim body an angelic eyes. She is very active and playful in bed with only a few limits such as CIM. I will not easily forget the great natural blowjob and 69 session with her. If all the girls of this agency will deliver the same level of service, then this agency deserves a place in the bookmarks of the frequent Moscow traveler.