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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3000749]And on the rare occasion when that nonsense started, I would simply get up and start to put on my clothes. Gal would ask me what was wrong, and I would tell her straight up in Thai that I expected her to do me like I was a boyfriend or she was in a "sex movie. " I would also stress to her that I did not want her to do anything she was uncomfortable with and that if she was uncomfortable with what I wanted to do we would stop right now and I would pay her less than the agreed upon price.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this, and this does tend to be my energy if there are shenanigans back home. I will play hardball. I guess here there is a sense of limited time and opportunity so settling a bit. I might give this a try once to see how it goes. It does really piss me off that they agree then back out, but as a stranger in a strange land, I guess I am feeling a little less assertive.

[QUOTE=JoshAllen;3000831]Thanks for this, and this does tend to be my energy if there are shenanigans back home. I will play hardball. I guess here there is a sense of limited time and opportunity so settling a bit. I might give this a try once to see how it goes. It does really piss me off that they agree then back out, but as a stranger in a strange land, I guess I am feeling a little less assertive.[/QUOTE]Just keep your cool, smile, and emphasize that you don't want her to do anything that she doesn't want to do, but it's not what was agreed upon and you are not satisfied. But those clothes on leave a few hundred baht and head out.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;3000314]Of course. We each brought a lawyer to the meet and I had her sign a 15-page legal contract giving me permission to take and post her photos.

Next question.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PgReal;3000395]The very first thing that entered my head when I saw your original post was 'that's bang out of order and totally inappropriate', it doesn't take much to show a little respect mate. What really surprises me is that the Mods allowed it and didn't take it down. But then again they are so inconsistent in their policies or asleep half the time.[/QUOTE]You mention my original post; are you referring to the one I made on 28 April in which I posted some pics? You think the mods should have taken it down?

I was then asked two follow-up questions and I replied to them (you quoted my second reply). You think the mods should have taken my replies down?

You suggest that I am not showing respect. Respect to whom? And in what way am I not showing respect?

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You suggest that I am not showing respect. Respect to whom? And in what way am I not showing respect?[/QUOTE]Not my place to try to answer that question. But allow me to respectfully interject. LOL.

Sam.

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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3000714]As I reported a couple days ago, I have one Nana Plaza mamasan who knows me well and knows exactly what I like. She brings recommended girls to me for my review and those girls are already prescreened for BBFSCIP.[/QUOTE]I would like to know if other board members had similar success with mamasans. I always felt that most girls are hiding any possible BB practice from their peers and their mamasans. This is why I never even bothered to ask a mamasan.

Taken services from 4 ladies in the picture. IYKYK.

After many years break, I had a 4 day stopver in BKK and did stay in the well proven Nana Hotel. Still the same since 30 years.

FL's streetwalkers asking for 3000ST --what a bullok! And guys do pay it. OMG.

I had my old style approach, being the one who got the money and offering a job: exchanging a few friendly words, make her smile and then inform the girl that I have with me an amount which I think fits to her looks. No --the girls were no druggies or fat mommies. Just the average looking gal, short size, with tits, but not pumpoi or over 30. The amount I tell was between 600 to 1000 Baht. Never more!

"Take it or leave it, honey" . And out of 10 approaches 4 of them did walk back with me to my hotel. Among others, one was from Kigali / Ruanda. Another young one from Myanmar.

Guys --don't be whimps. You set the rules and don't let your dick control your finances.

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[QUOTE=Safado70;3001028]I would like to know if other board members had similar success with mamasans. I always felt that most girls are hiding any possible BB practice from their peers and their mamasans. This is why I never even bothered to ask a mamasan.[/QUOTE]I have known a few mamasans in Bangkok gogo bars over the years who have provided the type of BBFSCIP matchmaking service described by HorseTrader. Not just BBFSCIP but for DFK, BBBJ, DATY and BBFSCIP. Or even BBBJCIM+Swallow.

But don't expect every mamasan in every gogo bar to be that good at their job. Most don't put in the effort to know anything so useful about their girls. The rare good ones are worth their weight in gold. Yet a mere 100 -200 baht tip and / or a drink, if they are so inclined, is enough to get them involved. Talking about the good and useful ones.

The challenge is to overcome any shyness or reticence about introducing yourself to the mamasan of a bar, asking her name, inviting her to sit for a drink and tell her what it takes to move you to pay the barfine for a girl, pay her the going rate or sometimes a tad more (paying the girl afterwards, never before, of course) and be even more inclined to return as a frequent customer and 100-200 baht tipper to that mamasan.

Bear in mind, most mamasans are a waste of time in this regard, particularly when it comes to which girls are likely to agree to BBFSCIP. But the rare useful mamasan is who you are looking for.

You find them by telling them what you want and waiting for their response. If they genuinely recoil in horror by the question, they are in the wrong business.

The most interesting thing I learned about Thai gogo girls and maybe it applies to most Thai P4 P girls is that all it takes for a lousy, do nothing, starfish and "no" to practically everything like DFK and BBBJ and certainly BBFSCIP or BBBJCIM+Swallow supposedly too shy, too inexperienced, too culturally-resistant to such things hooker into the sweet-as-pie, most accommodating, agreeable and participatory to everything Real GFE hooker is a simple instruction from a knowledgeable mamasan to "Treat him well. He is a good man and a good customer. "

LOL. No on-the-spot tutorial. No detailed instructions. No list of things to do for the customer.

It turns out these supposedly shy, culturally obtuse and incapable girls know very well the difference between crap sex and great sex by the time they are working in the business. And the only reason they have not bothered to deliver great instead of crap sex is because a trusted and respected Thai figure of authority like that old Thai lady mamasan has not told them to provide you with great sex instead of crap sex.

Of course, as always, YMMV.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3001083]I have known a few mamasans in Bangkok gogo bars over the years [/QUOTE]You have consistently interesting, well thought out and well written posts. I just want to say thank you.

[QUOTE=JoshAllen;3000827]Walked into Thermae last night...
[/QUOTE]Hey man, just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of your experiences. I've really enjoyed reading all the posts, great stuff.

Good luck out there, how long is your trip?

[QUOTE=JizzyB;3001035]Taken services from 4 ladies in the picture. IYKYK.[/QUOTE]Love this place. I see #1 and #55 are still there from Dr. BJs. Letter P uuffff those tits and lips.

[QUOTE=WintersLight;3001218]Hey man, just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of your experiences. I've really enjoyed reading all the posts, great stuff.

Good luck out there, how long is your trip?[/QUOTE]It's a 2 wk trip. I have tonight and 3 solid days left.

I slowed down with the posting because things are sort of a blur. I have only been sleeping when absolutely necessary when my body just shuts down. I invariably fall asleep during each foot massage. I am experiencing some pretty intense exhaustion after my encounters with these women. I feel utterly drained. I am not really interested in a pharmacologic solution so I have resorted to trying to space things about 12 hrs apart if possible. So I have been sleeping like 2-3 hrs twice each 24 hrs, but little regularity or pattern. Yeah probably not healthy. Why sleep when I can walk around all night looking at the eye candy?

Anyways in the past few days I have found some extremely attractive providers. Just blind luck really. The other night I was wandering up and down the main Sukhumvit drag. I tried "the walk" that is mentioned here but I am more of a cat and just wander. I like between the McDonalds near the Terminal 21 area all the way up to the Nana Plaza Road. I like Soi 11 - lots of people (girls) milling about in and out of bars, clubs, etc. And of course I like Sukhumvit 4 Alley on both sides up to about the 7-11 that always seems to have someone passed out on the pavement out front. I wish I could dredge up more areas of SWs in the forums. No time right now though.

There are tons of ladyboys to sift through especially as the night grows longer. They're pretty obvious, but not all. I got my feelings hurt when a girl rebuffed me. Just said "I'm happy. " As in GTFO. But later I see her again and she is grinning and making a gesture near her crotch. I walk back over and ask hon, what does that mean. She said "I have dick. " Ohhhhhhh. I asked how did you know I didn't want it. "I saw you looking at girls. " Honestly these ladyboys as a whole are decent humans. Totally fucked in the head, but decent I would say.

Anyways the other night I was sorta just not feeling it. Nothing really clicking. Nobody grabbing my interest. Then I just told myself JoshAllen, don't force it, don't stress. Things will work out. Literally 2 blocks later I am walking by one of these little pop up diners on the sidewalk with 2 tables and a cook serving food and beer. A girl is eating alone and looks up, sees me and smiles. This is like 50 feet from Thermae. Holy crap she is gorgeous and very petite. Face was top tier and very tight body. Had a kid but absolutely no signs of it in her physique (even naked). Very cool girl (Nam) - she asked me to sit and we chatted. Close to fully fluent in English. Turns out she goes to Thermae but I found her outside. She asks so what are you doing next? Ummm. I think I going with you to my place? Oh!. OK cool. And that was that. I won't call it a GFE but it was pretty damn good. Even chilled in bed chatting, goofing off, and cuddling before the act. Very sensual, some kissing, lots of tender touching throughout. That was nice. Had some BBBJ time. Had some DATY and she told me she wanted my fingers inside her please. Tried the "I'm good with no condom if you are" thing again but she was firm on it. Paid 2500.

Last night I scoped a bunch of these lesser known (or talked about) MPs on Sukhumvit 24/1 Alley. There were a few really hot girls outside but I felt a little on the spot with like 30+ girls in that small area hollering etc. You come! I give you special massage! Everyting honey! I circled back around but the few I was really interested in weren't to be seen. I am going to check it out again. I ended up wandering down Sukhumvit Alley 22 which to me had an impressive array of options on the little side streets if you're the sort to take a chance on a lesser known random place. But as it turns out I ended up in front of a place I had seen mentioned (Honey Bee [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/VzN5CpLWsaZf4N588[/URL]) and I must say I am very glad I went.

There was a somewhat more demure girl in the back corner of the cluster of girls. She gave me a sweet look when I looked at her. I asked if I could go with her and all the girls said yes! Yes! I honestly am still figuring this shit out. A few times I went for a basic massage, but the cute girl outside handed me off to a hefty mamasan type inside. So I wasn't sure if these girls were just bait. Well, no, she was the real deal. Very Chinese-drama-looking girl, the word lithe sums it up for me. Dangerous beauty that could make me slip up. All I can say is her massage felt like a seduction and I was truly under her spell. She knew exactly what she was doing. It wasn't perfect because everything was covered. But eh, still a very satisfying experience. Her name is Nikki, but if you can believe it, she is moving up north for good in like 7 days! Ouch! This is a serious loss for BKK. Paid 2500 for 60 min FS oil massage.

Then today I thought about Doki Doki but I was closer to Peach [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/NJNxN8UahDDm6xb78[/URL] so I decided to stroll by. I had heard that weekend talent can be more sparse at the MPs. Well I go to the 7-11 across the street to creep on the MP. I see that there are 2 girls out front. 1 looks OK. The other has good long hair but I can't see her. I loop around, walking right by and take a look. Well this girl sees me and is enthusiastically waving me down. I guess it's slow business because I am just an average dude with a dad bod (but yeah I know it's all about the wallet). Holy crap she is hot. I picked her for 60 minute oil massage, FS, 2000 baht. Service was decent. A little formulaic. Very friendly girl, super easy on the eyes, very long, slender bod with MMs and an absolutely perfect ass. Everything covered again. That is getting a little disappointing. Anyways I will say overall a positive experience due to hotness level, and the service was decent, but the everything covered thing is not for me, so I guess I'm getting a little cranky. On that note I didn't tip her!

So which is better, my 6. 5/10 semi-thick girl that allowed BBBJ and BBFS? Or these super hot girls all covered? Hard to say. I enjoyed both. I keep forgetting to pick an average looking girl to see if better service.

Despite all my pre-trip research about options and fussing with TF, I just don't want to spend a lot of time on that and Fwfans. I am not going to chase these girls down. Too much of pain when so much is directly available with an enjoyable walk outside my place. Also I doubt I will do Tded-99 or whatever it's called. It's pretty far. Bar girls and clubs not really my thing either. Don't drink and my hearing sucks. Can't really converse well at clubs or bars. So far it's MPs and SWs for me. A few Thermae and TF encounters. Hell no not doing an escort service. Oh but my 2 outcall massages were excellent too. And god no I realized I have no interest in a civvie encounter / date / dinner thing. I am restless when the girl is waiting in my room for her Grab after 5 minutes.