Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2788470]Colombia is such a beautiful country. In the top 10 (or so?) in the world for stupid gringos to go on marriage tours. ([URL]https://loveme.com/tour/order/latin-tour-order.shtml[/URL]) yet answer me this. Why do girls (madams) refer their girlfriends to me when I am there? Is that not considered pimping?[/QUOTE]You are a client and they want their girlfriends to make some money with you. I also suspect that they are getting a commission from girlfriends if they see you. When I turn down a girl or we can't come to an agreement, sometimes they will recommend a girl who will agree to my terms. I rarely see the referrals because I prefer to do my own research on a girl.

I've been to Medellin 3 times. I can tell you for a fact the best way to not get scoped is avoid bringing girls from parque Llleras, gusto, and online. Especially if it's an apartment. If it's a hotel where they give I'the, it's lower risk. Street girls are your highest risk. Lowest risk is getting a girl from a casa or la isla for later. I have never had an issue if I had a good session with a girl. The best part about Medellin is the flake rate for hotel after work is much lower than Mexico or Brazil. Mexico flake rate from hk is 90%, Brazil is 50%, Medellin is a surprisingly 20% in my experiences. If you are renting an apartment be very careful bringing those types home.

I would think that one would have to me getting paid or benefit from the service provided by the girl to be considered a pimp. I have been known to recommend girls that I like but never considered myself a pimp. If I was it were true it would be a really bad business model.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2788480]Is it pimping for guys here to recommend chicks to each other?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2788355]Medellin is not the world's number 1 sex tourism destination. Thailand is much bigger a destination. I don't think it is even in the top 5. The number of posts on this site only indicates that guys are more likely to post about Medellin on this website and not that it is the world's biggest sex tourism destination.[/QUOTE]Total agreement here. The high number of posts in the Medellin thread indicates only that proximal to the United States, it is the closest and lowest hanging fruit. As for size-for all intents and purposes the entire city of Pattaya in Thailand is a red-light district. In the Western Hemisphere, Rio de Janeiro has far more P2 P options. Columbia is cheap and close- and some mongers prefer Latinas to Asians and don't mind covered sex. The lower Forum activity in the Bangkok and Pattaya thread indicate to me that the logistics are so easy relative to MDE and others such that intel / recon is less necessary. Also the place is flooded with mongers, so there's not as much need to search for camaraderie online.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2788409] Anyway, here is my personal plan. Land in Medellin. Take a taxi which I have reserved in advance through [URL]booking.com[/URL] to my airbnb in El Poblado. Stay there for a week with a girl who I have already met through [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. Probably go out to some clubs with her if she wants to. Give her a million pesos at the beginning of each day. That sounds fair to me for the company of a beautiful college aged girl. Take the taxi back to the airport and go home.

As soon as I arrive in my room but before anyone else shows up, I'll take some duct tape. Put my passport and $200 into an envelope. Tape that to the back of a picture or the back of the TV screen. If anything horrible happens, I will have money for food and I will be able to board my return flight.[/QUOTE]You already fucked up when you mentioned taxi. Don't use taxi. Only Uber or DiDi.

If I was you only keep the girl 2 or 3 days at most. Offer her 500 k with the option for her to stay with you if she wants. Why giver her another 500 k just to sleep.

Give her the money at the end of each day.

The only regret I had was not visiting any pros. Sure the GFE is nice but medellin has some really good pro talent and cheap, on my next trip I hope to partake on that. Also would recommend you find girls in the clubs at lleras if your seeking girl is into trios.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2788567]The lower Forum activity in the Bangkok and Pattaya thread indicate to me that the logistics are so easy relative to MDE and others such that intel / recon is less necessary. Also the place is flooded with mongers, so there's not as much need to search for camaraderie online.[/QUOTE]I think that there is something about Latinas which other women just haven't got. That's my personal, although limited, experience so far.

I'm not saying that Medellin is necessarily the world's biggest center of working girls however in terms of having the most men per year visiting from other countries primarily for the purpose of having sex with local women, if Medellin is not #1 it's surely a top contender. The Guinness Book of World Records needs to investigate.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2788567]. The lower Forum activity in the Bangkok and Pattaya thread indicate to me that the logistics are so easy relative to MDE and others such that intel / recon is less necessary. Also the place is flooded with mongers, so there's not as much need to search for camaraderie online.[/QUOTE]There are also several dedicated forums that are extremely popular.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2788509]I've been to Medellin 3 times. I can tell you for a fact the best way to not get scoped is avoid bringing girls from parque Llleras, gusto, and online. Especially if it's an apartment. If it's a hotel where they give I'the, it's lower risk. Street girls are your highest risk. Lowest risk is getting a girl from a casa or la isla for later. I have never had an issue if I had a good session with a girl. The best part about Medellin is the flake rate for hotel after work is much lower than Mexico or Brazil. Mexico flake rate from hk is 90%, Brazil is 50%, Medellin is a surprisingly 20% in my experiences. If you are renting an apartment be very careful bringing those types home.[/QUOTE]I hate "facts", especially when someone has to stress they are "facts" instead of conclusions based on their experience. Don't get worked up.

Many apartments have tighter entry security than some hotels. Some hotels you're able to bypass security with a girl. Each person should consider the level of security which they feel is necessary. There are advantages to both apartments and hotels, depending on each person's situation.

Any girl is a potential risk. The biggest risk appears to be Tinder, but it's a bad idea to assume a girl is safe because of where you found her. Your focus should be on not providing the opportunity to anyone. It also means not letting everyone know you're a good target. The same advice that's been offered for years still works.

1. Don't advertise your wealth.

2. Don't get wasted.

3. Watch your drink at all times.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2788567]Total agreement here. The high number of posts in the Medellin thread indicates only that proximal to the United States, it is the closest and lowest hanging fruit. As for size-for all intents and purposes the entire city of Pattaya in Thailand is a red-light district. In the Western Hemisphere, Rio de Janeiro has far more P2 P options. Columbia is cheap and close- and some mongers prefer Latinas to Asians and don't mind covered sex. The lower Forum activity in the Bangkok and Pattaya thread indicate to me that the logistics are so easy relative to MDE and others such that intel / recon is less necessary. Also the place is flooded with mongers, so there's not as much need to search for camaraderie online.[/QUOTE]The high number of posts for Medellin and Colombia in general are because this board has been the go to board for these places from a way back. Other boards cover Thailand for example. I don't think you can read anything more into it than that. It's just a history.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2788509]I've been to Medellin 3 times. I can tell you for a fact the best way to not get scoped is avoid bringing girls from parque Llleras, gusto, and online. Especially if it's an apartment. If it's a hotel where they give I'the, it's lower risk. Street girls are your highest risk. Lowest risk is getting a girl from a casa or la isla for later. I have never had an issue if I had a good session with a girl. The best part about Medellin is the flake rate for hotel after work is much lower than Mexico or Brazil. Mexico flake rate from hk is 90%, Brazil is 50%, Medellin is a surprisingly 20% in my experiences. If you are renting an apartment be very careful bringing those types home.[/QUOTE]What do you mean "flake" rate by hk in mexico? Are you saying the odds of a girl meeting you outside of the club?

I'm a bit skeptical about the drugging and robbing issue in Medellin.

My question is this: Is it a greater risk than risk of traffic accidents in the US?

Unofficial estimates put the number of annual scopolamine incidents in Colombia at approximately 50,000. /.

[URL]https://web.archive.org/web/20130315175638/https://www.osac.gov/Pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=12118[/URL]

During the first half of 2022,*El Poblado experienced*2 homicides and 1587 thefts from persons.

[URL]https://www.medellinadvisors.com/homicide-theft-in-medellin-2022-mid-year-figures/[/URL]

These are the only statistics which seem at all relevant which I can find.

There were 42,915 motor vehicle deaths in the US in 2021. Approximately 4. 8 million people were seriously injured in automobile collisions in the US in 2020. The US has about six and a half times the population of Colombia.

Is anyone avoiding traveling in a motor vehicle in the United States because of traffic accidents? It's definitely possible to be killed or severely injured when driving in the United States. It happens many times each day. However the odds of it happening to you aren't really very high.

I would say, if you drive in the US wear a seatbelt, follow traffic regulations, don't drink and drive. In Medellin if a girl offers free sex on the first date politely but quickly walk away. I don't think that more anxiety than that is rational.

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2788577]You already fucked up when you mentioned taxi. Don't use taxi. Only Uber or DiDi.

If I was you only keep the girl 2 or 3 days at most. Offer her 500 k with the option for her to stay with you if she wants. Why giver her another 500 k just to sleep.

Give her the money at the end of each day.

The only regret I had was not visiting any pros. Sure the GFE is nice but medellin has some really good pro talent and cheap, on my next trip I hope to partake on that. Also would recommend you find girls in the clubs at lleras if your seeking girl is into trios.[/QUOTE]He should only plan on seeing the girl for 2 to 3 hours the first day. Planning an overnight with a girl you haven't met is a bad move. Planning to have her stay for the whole trip is crazy. It's a lot easier to get a girl to stay longer or come back than it is to convince her to leave without all the money she's expecting.

Payment should not be until you're ready for her to leave, whether she's there for 1 hour or 1 week. Going in with a set price that seems fair is not the best approach, especially if you're talking multiple days. Instead decide on a fair short-term rate. If you decide to keep her for the night, you may or may not need to pay more.

BTW, if you had to give the girls money, they were pros.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2788582]I think that there is something about Latinas which other women just haven't got. That's my personal, although limited, experience so far.

I'm not saying that Medellin is necessarily the world's biggest center of working girls however in terms of having the most men per year visiting from other countries primarily for the purpose of having sex with local women, if Medellin is not #1 it's surely a top contender. The Guinness Book of World Records needs to investigate.[/QUOTE]Medellin isn't even the biggest center for working girls in Colombia.

There are a few girls I know that collect 50 k from the girls they referred. I don't consider that pimping as they do not work for these girls. More like a one time fee.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2788480]Is it pimping for guys here to recommend chicks to each other?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2788567]Total agreement here. The high number of posts in the Medellin thread indicates only that proximal to the United States, it is the closest and lowest hanging fruit. As for size-for all intents and purposes the entire city of Pattaya in Thailand is a red-light district. In the Western Hemisphere, Rio de Janeiro has far more P2 P options. Columbia is cheap and close- and some mongers prefer Latinas to Asians and don't mind covered sex. The lower Forum activity in the Bangkok and Pattaya thread indicate to me that the logistics are so easy relative to MDE and others such that intel / recon is less necessary. Also the place is flooded with mongers, so there's not as much need to search for camaraderie online.[/QUOTE]Stating that Medellin is the closest is absurd, get out an atlas or a globe, ever heard of Tijuana or San Jose, Costa Rica? Lowest hangin fruit, that is absurd also, nothin is easier than the zona in Tijuana or gringo gulch in San Jose. Medellin takes a little bit of work contacting chicas or headin all over a giant metropolis to find them.