Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3012864]For the punter who is willing to spend 4,500 to 8,000 baht, what is a better option where he can select his girl from among many doable girls and have a chance to talk to her for 15 minutes before commitment to assess personality and chemistry? I don't recommend go go bars to punters who have a budget of nickels and dimes nor to those who want to consume mass quantities of alcohol.[/QUOTE]I routinely spend the equivalent of 20,000 Baht, just not in tourist traps.

It has nothing to do with the price and everything to do with the service. Paying someone for the "privilege" to sit next to me is laughable. Then we "get to know each other" by screaming pidgin English over blaring techno music while being pestered by the mamasan. Meanwhile the girl chokes the drink down her throat to get back on stage. If you act fast enough, you can bar fine her for some mediocre short time sex before she races back to the bar to find another sucker.

That's assuming you can barfine her. If she's one of the better looking ones with a flat stomach and no saggy tits, you might find out that she has a drink minimum or has to stay in the bar until midnight. Or she only goes with Japanese, etc. , etc. , etc.

It's so far from the original go go bar experience we had years ago that it almost seems like an alternate universe.

Fucking miserable.

[QUOTE=RickRock;3012886]I routinely spend the equivalent of 20,000 Baht, just not in tourist traps.

It has nothing to do with the price and everything to do with the service. Paying someone for the "privilege" to sit next to me is laughable. Then we "get to know each other" by screaming pidgin English over blaring techno music while being pestered by the mamasan. Meanwhile the girl chokes the drink down her throat to get back on stage. If you act fast enough, you can bar fine her for some mediocre short time sex before she races back to the bar to find another sucker.

That's assuming you can barfine her. If she's one of the better looking ones with a flat stomach and no saggy tits, you might find out that she has a drink minimum or has to stay in the bar until midnight. Or she only goes with Japanese, etc. , etc. , etc.

It's so far from the original go go bar experience we had years ago that it almost seems like an alternate universe.

Fucking miserable.[/QUOTE]That has not been my experience. But back to my original question, what do you recommend? We cannot go back to 1995.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3012892]That has not been my experience. But back to my original question, what do you recommend? We cannot go back to 1995.[/QUOTE]If you're so satisfied with the go go bars, why are you asking for alternatives? It sounds like you're the kind of customer they are looking for. Carry on and have a good time. I moved on from that joke years ago.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3012864]For the punter who is willing to spend 4,500 to 8,000 baht, what is a better option where he can select his girl from among many doable girls and have a chance to talk to her for 15 minutes before commitment to assess personality and chemistry? I don't recommend go go bars to punters who have a budget of nickels and dimes nor to those who want to consume mass quantities of alcohol.[/QUOTE]While I am not a fan of loud music, sitting in bars and drinking alcohol, I am a fan of first selecting a girl based on my attraction to her physical appearance, being able to more accurately judge the physical reality based on the amount of unclothed skin, limbs and torso in front of me as well as her facial features, and hands-on testing, then for insignificant money being able to chat about whether or not the lady will be engaging in Real Sex or at least a Real Blowjob with me by my definition of both before committing to significant money in the arrangement, as well as often involving the mamasan, again for insignificant money, whose endorsement and testimonial for me generally goes a long, long way to ensuring the delivery of either or both of those actual Real Sex and Real Blowjob results in the room, with the right attitude and a smile.

That is what I get more consistantly from gogo bar experience than I have ever gotten from any other option or venue in Thailand. Not from the street girls, certainly not from what I see and have experienced in any so-called Porn Sex Experience Happy Ending Shops, massage shops, soapies, ThaiFriendly or similar, clubs, Thermae or wandering around aimlessly wishing on a star.

As you said, if anyone has a suggestion for a better alternative to get what I want as described above within an hour or two for typically less than 6,000 - 7,000 baht all in for the evening, I am more than open to hearing about it or giving it a try.

And at this point, after living here in Bangkok over a decade, I have never read nor heard a credible personal report of any punter getting results remotely close to what I described above after spending 10,000+ baht at any of those mega palaces in Ratcheda or the perhaps less costly but supposedly also higher end than gogo bar options on Thaniya Road either.

[QUOTE=RickRock;3012895]If you're so satisfied with the go go bars, why are you asking for alternatives? It sounds like you're the kind of customer they are looking for. Carry on and have a good time. I moved on from that joke years ago.[/QUOTE]Tell us where you moved to. I'm always looking for a place where I can sit my fat butt down and look at writhing nubiles that I can pick from.

I'm a Billboard and Rainbow 5 guy or whatever Rainbows in not in the corner of the 2nd floor of Nana. What ya got for us?

[QUOTE=RickRock;3012895]If you're so satisfied with the go go bars, why are you asking for alternatives? It sounds like you're the kind of customer they are looking for. Carry on and have a good time. I moved on from that joke years ago.[/QUOTE]I'm just asking what your alternative is. What have you moved on to? I'm sure many punters would like to benefit from your knowledge. Does it require a trip to Tokyo?

RickRock,

I am definitely missing the Gogo experience from 20 years ago. This is why nowadays I rarely go there. If you have any suggestion for similar experience, I would be very happy to hear about that.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;3012789]Lets get down to the nitty gritty: Cowboy is for tourists. It isn't for fucking. Hasn't been that way for 15 plus years.[/QUOTE]When I'm in Bangkok during my upcoming winter holiday I'll be sure to visit Soi Cowboy. I'll have a beer at Baccara and Crazy House and stick my head into the handful of bars that aren't owned by the infamous "Arab." But I'll be motivated by nostalgia for the good old days and careful to keep my expectations in check.

For reasons that defy understanding, it is now a destination for falang tourists who aren't even close to interested in the pay-to-play scene. Last time I was there I saw all manner of couples strolling up and down. I even saw single falang women. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? At least on Walking Street in Pattaya there are "civilian" restaurants and bars. But Soi Cowboy is a tiny block which has virtually nothing to recommend it unless you're a naughty boy. With everything else there is to see in Bangkok, why come there at night?

The tourists gawked at the punters and the girls like they were visiting a zoo. The bars now cater to the lookie-loos with OUTDOOR seating. Why would you pay go-go prices for a beer to sit on the sidewalk and judge the guys scuttling by? I even saw civilians inside the clubs. Again, what's the fucking point? To sneer and judge?

"Oh look Nell, that woman has comically large breasts!"

"Indeed! And look at the poor dear sitting with that portly bald gentleman. He's old enough to be her father!"

I don't know what the Thai word is for the opposite of sanuk. But that's how Soi Cowboy feels to me these days. Pitiful. Sad. A little annoying. And to add insult to injury, the Love Scene restaurant around the corner on Soi 23 has closed up shop. Back in the day I loved grabbing a bite there on my way back to the hotel.

[QUOTE=Bunky;3013018]. Why would you pay go-go prices for a beer to sit on the sidewalk and judge the guys scuttling by?[/QUOTE]At a guess I would say:

1) you don't have to buy lady drinks for somebody who hardly speaks a word of English.

2) you're not constantly being pestered by the mamasan to buy said lady more drinks.

3) your ears aren't being assaulted by loud, second rate music.

Back in BKK for a week of fun. I was here last summer and posted a detailed report. Here it is if you missed it: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2941066&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2941066.

Staying in Patpong area this time. Curious what everyone's feeling about the area is. I get the sense the girls at the Patpong gogo bars tend to be younger and prettier than the ones on Nana / Soi cowboy. Only downside is there are fewer bars in Patpong and seems like the kings castle agency owns about half the bars. Also not as many restaurants in patpong area and not as much to do during the day. Any thoughts on Patpong vs nana vs soi cowboy?

I'm also curious to hear more about the supposed "golden days" of Gogo. I will give my own perspective: I am too young to remember the "golden days" and only experienced Thailand for the first time in 2024. But I've mongered extensively in NYC and Japan, and I can tell you that Thai Gogo is still the best damn pay for play I've had. The gogo bar setting is great, you can vet the girls before leaving with them, pussy quality is good overall and the most Thai girls give very good GFE feeling. Some cheap overnights to be had too at gogo bars too, compared to prices elsewhere. I understand not everyone is looking to spend 8 k baht a night, but realistically, that is small money compared to NYC average prices of $360-$500 for one hour incall with cute young girls. So what's changed? Because BKK gogo still seems pretty fuckin great too a newbie like me. Granted being a cute young white guy with $ probably goes a long way. Maybe pay for play has gotten worse everywhere in the last 20 years and not just Thailand?

Finally, I got to say, wtf is the deal weed being made illegal again? That is the dumbest shit. Fuckin law changed 1 week before my vacay. In a country that permits widespread prostitution, how the fuck is it not okay to smoke a doobie? Not to mention there's weed shops all over BKK these days and there's clearly no going back. Thai minister of health deserves to get bottomed out by lady boys for this.

Just came back from Bangkok befriended a few girls from Cowboy 2 on soi cowboy. They became my drinking buddies after they were done work at 230 am the bar there if you can find a girls willing to go with you its 1500 baht for the entire night if you buy her minimum 2 drinks if you want to skip the hanging out in the bar and just take her out its 2 k baht. Lady drinks there are 250 baht each careful in you sit inside the multiple mamas will come by asking for drinks along with a few of the girls not just the one your interested in. But if you decide to barfine a girls its going to be 1500 to the bar and then depends what you negotiate with the girl for your short time or long time. 5-10 k some are asking. The ones that rather not barfine normally have boy friends that they are serious with won't barfine but more then willing to have drinks with you and talk story and keep you company.

[QUOTE=JPLove;3013112]Back in BKK for a week of fun. I was here last summer and posted a detailed report. Here it is if you missed it: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2941066&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2941066.

Staying in Patpong area this time. Curious what everyone's feeling about the area is. I get the sense the girls at the Patpong gogo bars tend to be younger and prettier than the ones on Nana / Soi cowboy. Only downside is there are fewer bars in Patpong and seems like the kings castle agency owns about half the bars. Also not as many restaurants in patpong area and not as much to do during the day. Any thoughts on Patpong vs nana vs soi cowboy?

I'm also curious to hear more about the supposed "golden days" of Gogo. I will give my own perspective: I am too young to remember the "golden days" and only experienced Thailand for the first time in 2024. But I've mongered extensively in NYC and Japan, and I can tell you that Thai Gogo is still the best damn pay for play I've had. The gogo bar setting is great, you can vet the girls before leaving with them, pussy quality is good overall and the most Thai girls give very good GFE feeling. Some cheap overnights to be had too at gogo bars too, compared to prices elsewhere..[/QUOTE]1. Most shops will sell you a weed script.

2. Silom is a cool area, but it was better before the city cleanup campaign. If I was doing the tourist thing, I would stay down by Thaksin Pier. If not, the better action is in Nana, but its a sh*thole during the day so you are going to BTS somewhere anyway.

3. I'm a confirmed Nana guy. Everything the manly man needs on a steamy night, weed, booze, burgers and pussy in a two block area.

[QUOTE=JPLove;3013112]Back in BKK for a week of fun.
Staying in Patpong area this time. Curious what everyone's feeling about the area is. I get the sense the girls at the Patpong gogo bars tend to be younger and prettier than the ones on Nana / Soi cowboy. Only downside is there are fewer bars in Patpong and seems like the kings castle agency owns about half the bars. Also not as many restaurants in patpong area and not as much to do during the day. Any thoughts on Patpong vs nana vs soi cowboy?
[/QUOTE]I prefer Patpong to the madness of Suk / Nana / Cowboy. It's just more chilled. Sure, as a non-Asian punter walking down Thaniya you get some pretty odd looks like "what are you doing here". But you just brazen it out, go to the mamasans or papasans at some of the fabulous KTVs with the rows of girls outsides in costumes, ask the prices and make your selection (s). Once they realise that you might have a few bhat to spend, are not baulking at the (reasonable) prices, they are fine. Some of the girls look a bit sceptical but I've never had one refuse to be selected. If you are there for a few nights they start to recognise you as a reliable returning punter and you are welcomed not only by the same bar but by the others as somehow the jungle drums seem to beat along Thaniya that you are a good punter.

The Silom area, for me, is head and shoulders above the mayhem of Sukhumvit. Lumpini is great in the daytime, there are lots of good massage places, it's easy getting Bolts or even Tuks and the traffic is not crazy. BTS available and quite apart from Thaniya some of the side roads have reasonable options. If you're a gogo fan (I'm not particularly) you've got Kings Castle I and II and Radio City. The Irish bar has a great band. I could go on. I won't. I just prefer it. If I'm in BKK for say 7 nights I'll do 2 only at Skyview on Suk 24 for the Alley / massage / soapies. I might still venture to Nana or Cowboy for a walk around but for me it is akin to Walking St in Pattaya. Go see, enjoy some sights but you are unlikely to get drawn and have much better service options in Patong, Thaniya, Suk 24.

After a few months of reading this forum and sitting on the fence, I finally made the decision to come out. I am over 70, in southern Florida, with plenty of short, affordable flights to Colombia, so I needed a shove to get off my ass for an 11 time zone trip. As it happens, I will be in SF for the Dead & Co. Golden Gate shows 8/1-3 with my SA girl, her Spearmint Rhino stripper friend, and more psychedelics than can possibly be healthy for a man my age. I will keep on going to Bangkok, returning in about 3 weeks, with a couple of days in Tokyo in each direction. I put it together as 3 r/t flights (MIA-SFO, SFO-NRT, NRT-BKK), all non-stop, for around $1600 total airfare. When I looked at the logistics, price, and the fact that I was already going to be in SF, I couldn't pass it up. Got to do as much as I can while I still can.

I have a friend here who lived there and has encouraged me to go, and who has offered to set me up with a local contact. We didn't explicitly talk about girls, but I am pretty sure we are on the same page. He suggested an AirBNB as a base of operations, and just take an overnight bag for any side trips (definitely Angor Wat, possibly Pattaya and/or Phuket). I plan on bringing a number of women back over the course of the trip, so would welcome thoughts on AirBNB vs. Hotels. I want something somewhere between "clean and comfortable" and "affordably luxurious".

I think there is more than enough information about hobbying options, pricing, and logistics. I am likely to mix it up between blowjob bars, massage parlors, freelancers, and maybe a go-go girl. I like to repeat if I find a girl I like and get along with, but that is more likely if we can communicate without Google Translate. Can someone give me an estimate of the percentage of girls who speak "transactional" English and the percentage that speak "conversational" English? I'm not looking for Socratic dialogues, but I would like to find a girl I can talk to a little bit at dinner without Google Translate.

I already downloaded the Line app, which apparently is essential for texting. I have the TDAC form and from comparable experience in Colombia I know better than to use any of the "Sponsored" sites which charge you to enter the same information that is on the free form. My phone plan should be fine, I assume I can use ATMs as needed (decline conversion, of course), I have electrical converters, I have downloaded Thai on Google Translate so I can use it offline. Anything other apps or logistical arrangements specific to Thailand?

I am also curious about the recent changes in cannabis regulations. I figured most stores would have a workaround like Nyezhof mentioned, but if anyone has current info I would appreciate it.

Looking forward to some completely new experiences.

J1 M.

I always prefer hotels over Airbnb. Nice to know security has your back in case of problems and they check the girls ID and call you when she is leaving to make sure she is not trying to sneak out on you and / or steal something. Dynasty Grande is a good option in Bangkok as it is a five minute walk to Nana Plaza but far enough away that it is on a quiet side street ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/1Pq6MYr3XpFKVGnU9[/URL]). The front desk holds the girls ID while she is in your room and will call your room asking if everything is okay when she is leaving. Not all hotels do this but this one does.

To go to Thailand for mongering and not go to Pattaya would be the biggest mistake of your life! Definitely go there and check out the bars on walking street and soi 6 at a minimum. Make a day trip to the coral island offshore: Ko Lan ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/ATSdc3nfc6bL8QMTA[/URL]). Ferry leaves every hour and it's 30 minutes to the island with perfect white sand and clean blue water, unlike Pattaya beach. If you have more than a few days read the forum for other areas like Soi Buakhao, etc.

Flipper lodge in Pattaya is right in the middle of everything and next door to the mall, which is cleaner and nicer than most malls in the USA and has a great food court ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/JGZxukGdJSpswfxeA[/URL]). This place is cleaner than most hotels in the US. Security there is awesome and same as Dynasty Grande, they will never let a girl leave or return her ID without your permission, so you can have girls spend the night and not worry about getting ripped off. One mile to walking street, less than five minutes if you use the pickup truck busses, ask people about that when you get there. It is cheap and easy transport and totally worth using. You climb in the back of the truck where they have padded seats and then push a door bell button and the guy pulls over and drops you off anywhere along the route (you just go down one street to get to walking street). I think it was 30 baht from Flipper to Walking Street. Soi 6 is half a mile from Flipper Lodge in the other direction. The beach is 200 feet from the hotel.

If you want to talk to girls go to the Philippines! Angeles City is smaller than Pattaya; it is a bit more run down, more grimy. Hotels and food cost a little bit more but I still love it. Subic Bay is close by and has a nice beach and a bunch of bars where they bring in young (over 18) girls from the provinces that all speak perfect English and are ready to serve, and they really truly want to please you, not just get the money and get out (like they do in Latin America). They absolutely love, love, love Americans there and everyone speaks perfect English. In fact, a lot of people working at hotels and restaurants have gone to a four-year university to learn how to provide excellent customer service to English speaking tourists. Boracay and El Nido are unbelievably beautiful destinations in the Philippines that are also worth looking into and while those might not be mongering destinations you can always find company using tinder or just walking around and asking people. Read the forum here for all the info you need to plan a trip.

Hope you have a fun trip! I think you will appreciate the culture more in Asia, which is literally a world apart from the "get the gringo"/ ripoff the tourist attitude in Latin America. I'll be in the Polo Fields an the 1st and 3rd, maybe the 2nd too if I can get a ticket. PM me if you want to link up so we can share stories and pics. I was just in Bangkok and Pattaya a couple months ago. Two weeks in Pattaya and I could have stayed longer!

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[QUOTE=JayWonEm;3013303]After a few months of reading this forum and sitting on the fence, I finally made the decision to come out. I am over 70, in southern Florida, with plenty of short, affordable flights to Colombia, so I needed a shove to get off my ass for an 11 time zone trip. As it happens, I will be in SF for the Dead & Co. Golden Gate shows 8/1-3 with my SA girl, her Spearmint Rhino stripper friend, and more psychedelics than can possibly be healthy for a man my age. I will keep on going to Bangkok, returning in about 3 weeks, with a couple of days in Tokyo in each direction. I put it together as 3 r/t flights (MIA-SFO, SFO-NRT, NRT-BKK), all non-stop, for around $1600 total airfare. When I looked at the logistics, price, and the fact that I was already going to be in SF, I couldn't pass it up. Got to do as much as I can while I still can.

I have a friend here who lived there and has encouraged me to go, and who has offered to set me up with a local contact. We didn't explicitly talk about girls, but I am pretty sure we are on the same page. He suggested an AirBNB as a base of operations, and just take an overnight bag for any side trips (definitely Angor Wat, possibly Pattaya and/or Phuket). I plan on bringing a number of women back over the course of the trip, so would welcome thoughts on AirBNB vs. Hotels. I want something somewhere between "clean and comfortable" and "affordably luxurious".

I think there is more than enough information about hobbying options, pricing, and logistics. I am likely to mix it up between blowjob bars, massage parlors, freelancers, and maybe a go-go girl. I like to repeat if I find a girl I like and get along with, but that is more likely if we can communicate without Google Translate. Can someone give me an estimate of the percentage of girls who speak "transactional" English and the percentage that speak "conversational" English? I'm not looking for Socratic dialogues, but I would like to find a girl I can talk to a little bit at dinner without Google Translate.

I already downloaded the Line app, which apparently is essential for texting. I have the TDAC form and from comparable experience in Colombia I know better than to use any of the "Sponsored" sites which charge you to enter the same information that is on the free form. My phone plan should be fine, I assume I can use ATMs as needed (decline conversion, of course), I have electrical converters, I have downloaded Thai on Google Translate so I can use it offline. Anything other apps or logistical arrangements specific to Thailand?

I am also curious about the recent changes in cannabis regulations. I figured most stores would have a workaround like Nyezhof mentioned, but if anyone has current info I would appreciate it.

Looking forward to some completely new experiences.

J1 M.[/QUOTE]