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[QUOTE=PinkPearl;2016488]Not that I am looking to impress them or care about their impression of me. As long as I can motivate them to do what pleases me, my goal has been achieved.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Some punters fancy themselves a modern day Don Quixote. I prefer the [I]catch and release[/I] approach. Two each his own.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;2016488]Thai P4P gals, time is money. Nana Hotel is extremely conveniently located for gals who work at NEP across the street.[/QUOTE]This.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2016576]I have had ant problems in a town house before.[/QUOTE]If food is left out in the open it will attract insects to it. At Nana Hotel guests sometimes leave their room service food trays with half eaten meals outside their door, attracting cockroaches or other insects towards their room, as well as helping to breed the species by feeding it. I always flush any remaining food on the tray down the toilet & clean the tray, or take it far away from my room. I imagine much the same would apply at most other hotels.
As for your use of the words "too many" I wouldn't worry about anything so trivial. It just reminded me of how NEP area guys and P4 P gals often speak using our lingo. When in LOS speaking the way the natives do might even help them understand us farangs better.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2016576]Thai girls have been known to make comments to be about the quality of Hotels, especially the good Hotels. Classier Thai girls do appreciate a classy Hotel especially with comfort and magnificent views. For a low class hooker, is doesn't matter of course.
Even I did not stay there, I have heard some very positive comments from girls about JWMarriott hotel, as example. One classy girl loved the up top bar with views in Column Hotel. She also liked to go to State Tower. So depends if girl is a little Hi So or very Lo So. When girls are very unimpressed by el cheapo Hotel, they usually don't say anything. Keep it to themselves.[/QUOTE]This sounds reasonable. I know that I would appreciate a magnificent view. And I wouldn't expect a Hi So to be impressed at the thought of the Nana Hotel, unless you were buying it for her. Hi So Thai girls probably wouldn't want to be caught, even dead, anywhere near NEP. Practically 100% of the pay for play gals in the area are relatively poorly educated non white skinned lo so country bumpkins from the endless farmlands north of Bangkok. I expect the quality of P4P service and attitude they give a customer would be better than that of a gal who's more likely to be haughty, spoiled & overpriced.
Regarding the JW Marriott hotel around the corner from the Nana Hotel, this is a much more expensive option than the Nana Hotel. Affordable if I'm staying for a few days, but not what I'd like to spend if living half of every year in the city. It's about 5 or 10 minutes more walking time from NEP than the Nana, which is all the time it takes in the Bangkok heat to work up a sweat & need to shower again if I had showered just before I walked out the door. In that regard, Nana hotel is the better alternative.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2016576].Thai girls have been known to make comments to be about the quality of Hotels, especially the good Hotels. Classier Thai girls do appreciate a classy Hotel especially with comfort and magnificent views. For a low class hooker, is doesn't matter of course.
Even I did not stay there, I have heard some very positive comments from girls about JWMarriott hotel, as example. One classy girl loved the up top bar with views in Column Hotel. She also liked to go to State Tower. So depends if girl is a little Hi So or very Lo So. When girls are very unimpressed by el cheapo Hotel, they usually don't say anything. Keep it to themselves.[/QUOTE]I honestly choose hotels to please myself rather than working girls.
They are of course happy to go to JW or state tower as their bathroom selfies will impress their mates on the level of the prey they hunted. Whatever they got for the ST or LT, be it the market rate or be it the spoiled one linked to what people pays at home.
Stating one stays at a 5 star hotel might only increase the rate level, hoping the customer is fresh and new to the scene.
Or, in some cases, make them calculate the extra travel time the location will generate.
Of course none of us likes to stay in a filthy hotel.
Sometime a ST room is far better of what the girls have at the end of their shift.
A good and decent hotel might get you a LT at the price of a ST if not done too early in the evening. The girl might evaluate positively the advantages of sleeping in a comfy bed, nice Air con and a luxurious bathroom with all facilities and accessories.
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Sometime a ST room is far better of (than) what the girls have at the end of their shift.
[/QUOTE]? ST room is for ST only.
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A good and decent hotel might get you a LT at the price of a ST if not done too early in the evening. The girl might evaluate positively the advantages of sleeping in a comfy bed, nice Air con and a luxurious bathroom with all facilities and accessories.[/QUOTE]I find many girls (a percentage) start with the view that they cannot sleep well in a strange bed with a strange man they don't know, regardless of comfort levels. I only take girls for LT that know me well and are very relaxed about it.
If you find that you only pay ST and girl wants to stay long time, you must be excessively charming man. In the old days, we had to pay girls to make them leave, but I don't see this in the modern day. Perhaps I am too old, and not handsome enough, or take girls too early in the evening. I had a suspicion when taking Suzi Wong girls to my Hotel Admiral Premier maybe 4 years back, that they probably wanted to head off after ST to party, drinking and smoking Ice, and was well before the time they would normally sleep, at say 1 AM or so. I did find girls happy to do LT, but not really for ST price.
Maybe I took girls too early in the evening. I remember one Suzi girl taken for LT. I told her at 1 AM I needed a good sleep tonight since I have to get up early, having already fucked her. She was still yacking to me at 5 AM, when I had to start telling her to shut up. On something, or just not accustomed to sleep at 1 AM?
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Hotel recommendation
For my prior Bangkok visits I stayed on Soi 11 at Bangkok Ambassador. Location was perfect because it is walking distance to many hot spots. Gogo girls from both Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza were willing to make the walk. Plenty close to Thermae, Climaxx, soapies, oilies, and BJ bars.
I was thinking of next visit to stay at Dynasty Grande, but was wondering if girls would be willing to go that far from Soi Cowboy? What else is available half way between Nana and Cowboy that is a bit nicer than Ambassador but won't break the bank?
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Good choice
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2017738]For my prior Bangkok visits I stayed on Soi 11 at Bangkok Ambassador. Location was perfect because it is walking distance to many hot spots. Gogo girls from both Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza were willing to make the walk. Plenty close to Thermae, Climaxx, soapies, oilies, and BJ bars.
I was thinking of next visit to stay at Dynasty Grande, but was wondering if girls would be willing to go that far from Soi Cowboy? What else is available half way between Nana and Cowboy that is a bit nicer than Ambassador but won't break the bank?[/QUOTE]Excellent hotel, you're a stones throw away from two BJ bars, and test the waters in nana, but as far as chicks wanting to walk from Soi Cowboy & to Soi 6 probably won't fly! But I think you will love the area, good luck!
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2017738]For my prior Bangkok visits I stayed on Soi 11 at Bangkok Ambassador. Location was perfect because it is walking distance to many hot spots. Gogo girls from both Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza were willing to make the walk. Plenty close to Thermae, Climaxx, soapies, oilies, and BJ bars.
I was thinking of next visit to stay at Dynasty Grande, but was wondering if girls would be willing to go that far from Soi Cowboy? What else is available half way between Nana and Cowboy that is a bit nicer than Ambassador but won't break the bank?[/QUOTE]Since you use the term "won't break the bank" I would suggest picking the hotel that you like and then spring for a taxi for you and the girl. It will be the smallest expense of the entire experience. 70 baht? 200 baht if a "mafia taxi".
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2017738]For my prior Bangkok visits I stayed on Soi 11 at Bangkok Ambassador. Location was perfect because it is walking distance to many hot spots. Gogo girls from both Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza were willing to make the walk. Plenty close to Thermae, Climaxx, soapies, oilies, and BJ bars.
I was thinking of next visit to stay at Dynasty Grande, but was wondering if girls would be willing to go that far from Soi Cowboy? What else is available half way between Nana and Cowboy that is a bit nicer than Ambassador but won't break the bank?[/QUOTE]There are not a lot of really great budget hotels half way between. I have stayed at Dream Hotel, might be more than you want to pay. Dynasty Grande is a good option, provided you don't expect the girl to walk there from Cowboy. Grand Swiss another option. I also like Silq in Soi 19, and Mercure Grande Residence in Soi 19 however these are closer to Cowboy (not that it should matter).
Manhatten Soi 15 is cheap but won't be better than Ambassador.
Probably best option is On8 right next to Nana BTS. Check that one first!
Appreciating what Crazy4Thai writes, you have to always offer the girl a taxi, since she might not like walking in high heels. If she says she can walk, fine, but it could be pouring with rain.
Plenty of times I took a girl in a taxi from Cowboy to Admiral President. It's only 400 metres but the walk is not the nicest around. Taxi cost 40 Baht. Less than 2 dollars.
You walk to the bar areas fine, but take girl home in a taxi! Exception is Hotels less than 100 metres away.
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[QUOTE=Ventolin42;2014543]I was looking at the Pachara Suites across the road for my upcoming trip, because they have spacious Suites / Studios with Balcony. However I read in some reports on Trip advisor that they charge a Joiners fee of 1000 THB if you bring 2 Guests within a 24-hour period. I wrote an email to Pachara Suites to confirm this a few days ago but they have not answered yet. If they don't answer by tomorrow I will just book Dynasty Grande again.
Has any of you had some experience with the joiner policy at Pachara Suites?[/QUOTE]So I went ahead and booked Phachara Suites despite them not answering my emails. Big mistake, since I can now confirm that the 1000 THB joiners fee for the second girl on a day is real. Even worse, I was standing at the registration desk with a very pretty but somewhat shy Girl from Laos (See Bangkok reports thread for details) at 4 am In the morning and they said "You have to pay 1000 THB because it is your second visitor today", right in front of the girl. WTF? She was not happy about that, although I could calm her down quickly.
Other than that the Hotel is nice, very similar standard as Dynasty Grande across the road, but the corner-type executive studio (there are two types of executive studios, the corner-type is better equipped and has a better layout) has a balcony with a good city view. In Dynasty you have to choose between either large room or balcony, and the balcony rooms are all towards the calm but boring pool. Another thing is I had to move after my first night, because they initially "upgraded" me into a deluxe suite. However the suite did not have a bathtub (which the less expensive corner-type executive studio has) and the balcony was almost unusable due to large bars in front of the balcony. It felt a little bit like in prison.
However if you are into FLs and escorts, and want to bring them to your room, this place is not for you. I will have to bay the joiners fee again tonight because I have a dinner date with the Lao girl this evening and already had some fun with an escort this afternoon (See escort thread for details).
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[QUOTE=Ventolin42;2017873]So I went ahead and booked Phachara Suites despite them not answering my emails. Big mistake, since I can now confirm that the 1000 THB joiners fee for the second girl on a day is real. Even worse, I was standing at the registration desk with a very pretty but somewhat shy Girl from Laos (See Bangkok reports thread for details) at 4 am In the morning and they said "You have to pay 1000 THB because it is your second visitor today", right in front of the girl. WTF? She was not happy about that, although I could calm her down quickly.
Other than that the Hotel is nice, very similar standard as Dynasty Grande across the road, but the corner-type executive studio (there are two types of executive studios, the corner-type is better equipped and has a better layout) has a balcony with a good city view. In Dynasty you have to choose between either large room or balcony, and the balcony rooms are all towards the calm but boring pool. Another thing is I had to move after my first night, because they initially "upgraded" me into a deluxe suite. However the suite did not have a bathtub (which the less expensive corner-type executive studio has) and the balcony was almost unusable due to large bars in front of the balcony. It felt a little bit like in prison.
However if you are into FLs and escorts, and want to bring them to your room, this place is not for you. I will have to bay the joiners fee again tonight because I have a dinner date with the Lao girl this evening and already had some fun with an escort this afternoon (See escort thread for details).[/QUOTE]You do your own thing, and make your own mistakes. Normal for new comers.
The bars on the balcony are to stop drunk or drug addled customers from going over the edge, so nothing strange about that. Not sure if Dynasty has any views better than the pool view. I remember that view as OK years ago.
If you want a really fabulous view, stay on a higher floor of the Column Hotel or just use the rooftop bar. Windows go down to the floor in guest rooms to improve the views and they are good.
I used to take 3 girls to my room at Admiral Premier concurrently and they did not bat an eyelid. However we tended to run out of towels. LOL I never tried going to ask for a big stack of towels, but I suppose for a suitable tip would be possible.
Here is a guest friendly website: [URL]http://redlighthotels.com/destination/south-east-asia/thailand/bangkok-guest-friendly-hotels/[/URL] It does mention Phachara is friendly for just one girl per day only. You were also warned on Trip Advisor. Fine. Some guys recommend emailing the Hotel. I never ever did that. So you could not take a no answer as a good sign. I don't have the patience to wait for an email answer.
Many years ago I once stayed at the Bangkok Palace which was not girl friendly. So we can all make a mistake. Moved out promptly naturally. I also had a problem with Solo Hotel on Soi 2. They required female guests to be at least 20 or 21. I forget now. Girl was 19. LOL. Fortunately I had booked for 2 persons and checked her in as the 2nd guest, instead of as a temporary visitor for that day. However soon stopped staying at that Hotel.
An alternative is to ask at [URL]booking.com[/URL] They should know. Or ask the ISG forum.
I don't normally take another girl to my room after a previous girl, unless the room has been cleaned in between. It would be a bit embarrassing for her to lie on the wet patch and have no clean towels to use. So perhaps for really active guys, you need to find out which hotel is willing to clean your room more than once per day and how much they charge for that. It could be the reason for Phachara's 1 K charge.
You can take a girl to a short time Hotel for 2 hours for quite a bit less than 1000 Baht, if the charge really worries you too much.
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This maybe to late but you might look at iCheck inn Soi 19. Granted it is closer to Soi Cowboy but it is an easy walk to Nana. It use to be Swiss Grottino before they sold out. I have been staying here, most of the time, since it S / G opened years ago. It now is fully non smoking.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2017738]For my prior Bangkok visits I stayed on Soi 11 at Bangkok Ambassador. Location was perfect because it is walking distance to many hot spots. Gogo girls from both Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza were willing to make the walk. Plenty close to Thermae, Climaxx, soapies, oilies, and BJ bars.
I was thinking of next visit to stay at Dynasty Grande, but was wondering if girls would be willing to go that far from Soi Cowboy? What else is available half way between Nana and Cowboy that is a bit nicer than Ambassador but won't break the bank?[/QUOTE]
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A lot of Hotels around Sukhumvit seem heavily booked right now and showing high prices. I was shocked to see Column at 7,800 Baht when I stayed there vastly cheaper before. Grand Mercure now too bad at around 2,800 and Mermaid good at 2100. Some crappy Hotels are booked out. LOL.
Those that insist on absolutely perfect location, may have to pay a high premium for it. Tonight I stay far from the action, and cheaply, but close to special girl's apartment, just for the ease of hook up, for her. Close but not too close, that could start bad gossip with people that know her. Location is rarely for my convenience, more so for the girl's convenience. She called to say she was horny (and needs money most likely).
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017813]Probably best option is On8 right next to Nana BTS. Check that one first!
[/QUOTE]I now see that On8 Hotel is lot more expensive than I thought. Aspira on Soi 7/1 is very central, very good price, and rated as very good. I would even try it myself, when have a reason, although located on a street full of hookers. LOL. Paradiso Boutique looks like a reasonable low budget option.
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Is there an off season period in the year where hotel prices are significantly cheaper? The hotel prices currently seem expensive. What hotel aggregator search engine is everyone using?
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[QUOTE=DesertFox1;2023017]Is there an off season period in the year where hotel prices are significantly cheaper? The hotel prices currently seem expensive. What hotel aggregator search engine is everyone using?[/QUOTE]Not exactly expert on hotel occupancies as don't work for a booking agency.
Sure there is a low season, or maybe more than one. It is probably the wet season end of August to October. Even November should be low season. Hotels can offer specials to try to attract some occupancy. I agree does not seem to be the cheapest right now. I note some hotels fully booked that are good value for money. I was shocked at Column Hotel prices for the next few months. When I stayed there in the past must have been on a special price.
I used to like to use Wotif when they presented a grid of Hotels and dates showing price on each night in each hotel on each deal. They took that function away when amalgamating with another company most likely. Or they did not want to empower us quite that much to chop and change hotels during our stay, depending on temporary deals. I disliked Agoda and all sites that quoted prices without the tax included, fake prices. Mainly use [URL]booking.com[/URL] now, but its not an aggregator site.
I had meant to post that Grand Mercure was NOT too bad at 2800 price. Good deal Hotel prices are still possible right now. Compare the ratings with the price.