Bangkok Reports

Hey all,

Heading to Bangkok next week (Monday to Friday) for a work conference, but I've extended the trip a few days to explore and enjoy the city a bit — first solo trip, so pretty excited.

I've been reading through the forum and taking in the advice, but I wanted to sanity-check a few things with the more experienced folks here:

From what I've gathered, bar girls usually go for around 2000–2500 baht short time, plus the bar fine (around 500–1000). Does that still sound about right these days?

I've also been active on ThaiFriendly and have connected with a few freelancers. Most are quoting 3000–4000 baht, which seems a bit higher than bar girls. Is that pretty standard now?

I'm definitely planning to video verify before meeting, especially with the FLs.

I'm not the negotiating type — I feel like it ruins the vibe — but should I be pushing back on quoted prices at all, or just accept it if it feels fair? I don't want to get taken for a ride, but I also want to keep things smooth and enjoyable.

Since this might be one of those "once in a while" opportunities (though let's be honest, it probably won't be the last)., I'the like to try the full experience: soapies, freelancers, bar girls, and maybe even a ladyboy if the vibe is right.

Would really appreciate any tips, red flags to watch out for, or places you recommend — especially for a first-timer trying to keep it fun and safe. Hotel is guest-friendly and located in Sukhumvit.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=OceanSummerz;3014924]Hey all,

Heading to Bangkok next week (Monday to Friday) for a work conference, but I've extended the trip a few days to explore and enjoy the city a bit first solo trip, so pretty excited.

I've been reading through the forum and taking in the advice, but I wanted to sanity-check a few things with the more experienced folks here:

From what I've gathered, bar girls usually go for around 20002500 baht short time, plus the bar fine (around 5001000). Does that still sound about right these days?

I've also been active on ThaiFriendly and have connected with a few freelancers. Most are quoting 30004000 baht, which seems a bit higher than bar girls. Is that pretty standard now?

I'm definitely planning to video verify before meeting, especially with the FLs.

I'm not the negotiating type I feel like it ruins the vibe but should I be pushing back on quoted prices at all, or just accept it if it feels fair? I don't want to get taken for a ride, but I also want to keep things smooth and enjoyable.

Since this might be one of those "once in a while" opportunities (though let's be honest, it probably won't be the last)., I'the like to try the full experience: soapies, freelancers, bar girls, and maybe even a ladyboy if the vibe is right.

Would really appreciate any tips, red flags to watch out for, or places you recommend especially for a first-timer trying to keep it fun and safe. Hotel is guest-friendly and located in Sukhumvit.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]You are in for a fun time. I wouldn't necessarily skip the soapy massage places. They can be good. I enjoyed Mango. As far as price yes BAR girls might go for 2000+500 but that is definitely not the same as GOGO girls. They will be more like 4000-5000 including barfine. Make sure to say you will pay the barfine to take the girl out but then pay the girl afterwards. Else you risk a bad experience from paying up front in full. Beware also (read story below) that if you want a fun and wild bar girl experience you may end up spending a lot on drinks. I couldn't give too fucks. But beware.

Here is my day three report from last August that I think is worth a repost because it covers massage, bar girls, and gogo all in one night and includes prices. Hope it is helpful.

So we have six girls in the rearview -- two just BJs but they were spectacular enough I'm going to count them -- and it's day three. Hoping to make the most of my last day here, and spoiler alert, I did!

Before getting to girl stuff, let me recommend the MBK mall to you. Its a bit of a train ride and hike from Nana, but definitely worth it. Its an epic seven floors of shops and restaurants and knock offs. There is a whole floor pretty much of knock off bags and watches and clothes. It's a lot of fun.

After hitting MBK, I decided to check out Mango which has been recommended by forum members of late. Guess I went around 2:30. There is a Starbucks right across and a high end mall with a mens bathroom right near starbucks so recommend a quick cooldown and recharge before hitting Mango.

Mango did not disappoint. On arrival they call the girls for lineup and wow, there are like 20 and they are all fuckable! Not a fatty in the group and some very very pretty. She asks me to choose and I say that I know a couple girls from the Line (like WhatsApp) group and I like Pey Pey and Nut. She points them both out and says which one? Wow, they are both great, but Nut lights me up like fireworks so I take her and its off to the room for Nuru.

Let me say that if you have had Nuru at a high end soapy this is not that. The bath area is quite small and so I stick out of the bath area into the room lying on the air mattress. And the Nuru itself is not top notch, but damn I couldn't give two flying fucks because I am in love. Nut is 100% my dream girl and she is sliding her pussy all over my dick while I gaze at her perfect face (I like a traditional darker Thai girl with full lips and wow, Nut is all that!

She is SUPER service oriented and speaks actually great english -- best of the trip by far. So we do very nice slip and slide and then wash off a bit for the bed. Goddamn I am in love with this girl. Her BJ is a little toothy but I don't care and its otherwise quite good with excellent BLS. And the fucking to die for with her perfect Thai girl body. Mish, doggie, cowgirl, the Steve. We do it all. For the finish we lose the condom and I nut in her mouth (pun intended). Wow. What a girl. I try to get her out for dinner but she ghosts me. Boo! I would have so flown that girl anywhere.

After a bit of cooldown, its too early to hit Nana so I decide to stroll the beer bars, which are pretty dead around 5 PM or so. But I stop into one for a game of pool and this turns into a whale of a time. I am playing with an impossibly slim girl with maybe a 6 face for me, but as we drink it gets progressively more handsy and cuddly and I know I will take her. But first some EPIC pool.

We break up into two teams. Me and my girl against two mamasans. And we basically slaughter them. One of the mamas is pretty good but inconsistent and the other not so good. We play like seven games and take a break when this other bar girl shows up. Fuck she can play. So I play against her and hold my own, but she beats me two times in a row. I mean a real pro.

Well I end up running up a HUGE (by Thai standards) bar bill of 3500 baht because I've been buying all four of them drinks plus myself for maybe four hours I guess. It was just a ton of fun. But I finally barfine my girl (2000+700) and she is THRILLED.

Quick aside. All the bargirls were quite cute. Not any less pretty than the girls at Nana plaza from my viewpoint. If you want to save a few bucks on takeout, this is a great option (though I spent it back in drinks!

In the room, we have a really great time. She is a pleaser and we do all the usual stuff. She has great BJ skills and very accommodating, but I can't bust a nut again, no matter how I try. She's very disappointed but I assure her its not her fault. They always ask me why I don't cum and I say I am old and too much drink. Both of which are true. But I fail to mention that I just fucked another girl and shot a hot load in her mouth. LOL.

By now, its like 10:30 and I haven't eaten dinner yet. So I drop by Hemingways which I will definitely recommend. The Wagyu ribeye, while not cheap ($50 USD) with truffle sauce is the best thing I have had in a while -- and I eat good when traveling -- so yeah, it was damn good.

My plan is to try to check out Levels, which is in my hotel anyhow and see what the vibe is, but leave enough time to pull a Nana chick if its a fail. I end up checking out both Levels and Sugar Club and they are virtually identical. 400 Baht entry includes one drink. Two professional dance girls up on stage -- really good actually -- and a hopping atmosphere. It would be a great club to go to with your girl. But in both cases there is a dearth of freelancers there and I exit after maybe 20 minutes of taking in the vibe.

So its off to Nana, I go! I decide to hit up Bunny 2 first, which is on the first floor as I had a good pull there last year. And this visit was great and awful all at once. Great was there was this 5 ft nothing hottie with banging natural the cups -- I shit you not -- and she was just bringing the dance and sex appeal like she would fuck your cock straight off you. So I bring her down for drink.

She is a fucking spitfire on my lap. First she is back grinding, and puts my hands on her tits and I am digging this. But then she turns around and straddles me and starts cowgirl grinding me. Wow. And kissing me. And gets out her tit and puts it in my mouth and so I am kneading her naked tits and they are FINE. And then she puts my hand inside her bikini and on her naked pussy. I mean a full on assault.

Well this sounds amazing and it was, but when I go to bar fine her she says she's on her period and can't. I suspect this is just an act as she is the master of sucking drinks out of you. She is drinking like a fish and I am buying for the mamasans and before I know it my bill is 1750 and I have to bail before I bleed any more on a non-bar-fine girl. But fuck she was fun and I wish I coulda nailed her.

So now its almost 1 oclock and I start to think I need to pull someone before its too late. I go to Billboard and honestly a lot of the girls musta been pulled because the stage is light. The white bikinis mean the camel toe is on point and Moon is there, so we exchange a glance or two, but I really want to pull someone new.

Over to Butterflies I hang for a bit, but Irin is not there and none of the rest of the talent inspires me. I noticed that Bunny had some really built girls, not so many pixies so I decide to try Bunny Balcony which is a super long shot since they pull me in and I am the only guy there with 12 or so girls dancing.

Well it doesn't take long to pick my girl. She stands out as super sexy and giving me the doe eyes and a rockin womans body, which I was hoping for after my pixies but not sure I'd find.

I call here down and she is thrilled. Gives me some good back grind while I get her a lady's drink. Sweet girl and affectionate and so, pulling a Bunny out of a hat (intended again!) I pull her are 1:55 AM with closing at 2! She is over the moon and its 3000+1000 I think.

Back in the room its a great time. I am pretty much fucked out at this point, but the Cialis is on point and I remain hard. She gives a very nice blowjob but the fucking is the highlight. I am totally surprised how tight she is -- I don't know if she is new or what, but holy fuck -- I have to ease my way in over a minute or so of gasping, grimacing and oohing. I have to go in a bit and out and a bit farther. Its fucking maddening and hornifying at the same time. But eventually I'm in and its ON!

Lots of fucking in Mish, and the Steve, with great making out. Doggie at end of the bed. Really great and lots of it. I know at this point its unlikely I can cum, but she is getting more and more vocal but in a very real way where I know she is building.

I put her on cowgirl and let her use me as a boytoy and does she ever. She is just grinding like her life depended on it -- does nothing for me, but man she is building and building and building and getting faster and faster. I let her grind me for surely 15 minutes and she is up to hummingbird pace. I have never seen anything like it -- she wants that O so bad and if she can just grind faster and a bit more. And BAMMM she has the biggest O from fucking I've ever seen. This was no act.

She collapses like a limp fish on me and kisses me and thanks me. And honest to god even though I didn't cum it was thrilling. Just being able to watch that unfold with my hard cock inside her was the most amazing thing.

And so, I close out the Bangkok trifecta on day 3 -- a massage place, a bar girl, and a gogo girl. All great in their own way. And the trifecta is complete!

[QUOTE=Dumbledore66;3014566]Hello, I am going to visit Bangkok in a week and I am really looking forward to the experience inspired by all your reports! I will definitely contribute myself I was wondering if somebody has a recommendation: I'd like to experience a threesome with two bisexual women, so I want to see some lesbian action. Is there a massage parlour or anything someone can recommend?[/QUOTE]No first hand experience with this establishment: but the Red Fern is at the same location as the legendary Eden Club, and looks to have the same business model. Pro tip: pick the lady you fancy, tell her what you want, and let her choose her partner. [URL]https://redfernbangkok.com/[/URL]#pricing.

SL.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3014939]You are in for a fun time. I wouldn't necessarily skip the soapy massage places. They can be good. I enjoyed Mango. As far as price yes BAR girls might go for 2000+500 but that is definitely not the same as GOGO girls. They will be more like 4000-5000 including barfine. Make sure to say you will pay the barfine to take the girl out but then pay the girl afterwards. Else you risk a bad experience from paying up front in full. Beware also (read story below) that if you want a fun and wild bar girl experience you may end up spending a lot on drinks. I couldn't give too fucks. But beware.

Here is my day three report from last August that I think is worth a repost because it covers massage, bar girls, and gogo all in one night and includes prices. Hope it is helpful.

So we have six girls in the rearview -- two just BJs but they were spectacular enough I'm going to count them -- and it's day three. Hoping to make the most of my last day here, and spoiler alert, I did!

Before getting to girl stuff, let me recommend the MBK mall to you. Its a bit of a train ride and hike from Nana, but definitely worth it. Its an epic seven floors of shops and restaurants and knock offs. There is a whole floor pretty much of knock off bags and watches and clothes. It's a lot of fun.

After hitting MBK, I decided to check out Mango which has been recommended by forum members of late. Guess I went around 2:30. There is a Starbucks right across and a high end mall with a mens bathroom right near starbucks so recommend a quick cooldown and recharge before hitting Mango.

Mango did not disappoint. On arrival they call the girls for lineup and wow, there are like 20 and they are all fuckable! Not a fatty in the group and some very very pretty. She asks me to choose and I say that I know a couple girls from the Line (like WhatsApp) group and I like Pey Pey and Nut. She points them both out and says which one? Wow, they are both great, but Nut lights me up like fireworks so I take her and its off to the room for Nuru.

Let me say that if you have had Nuru at a high end soapy this is not that. The bath area is quite small and so I stick out of the bath area into the room lying on the air mattress. And the Nuru itself is not top notch, but damn I couldn't give two flying fucks because I am in love. Nut is 100% my dream girl and she is sliding her pussy all over my dick while I gaze at her perfect face (I like a traditional darker Thai girl with full lips and wow, Nut is all that!

She is SUPER service oriented and speaks actually great english -- best of the trip by far. So we do very nice slip and slide and then wash off a bit for the bed. Goddamn I am in love with this girl. Her BJ is a little toothy but I don't care and its otherwise quite good with excellent BLS. And the fucking to die for with her perfect Thai girl body. Mish, doggie, cowgirl, the Steve. We do it all. For the finish we lose the condom and I nut in her mouth (pun intended). Wow. What a girl. I try to get her out for dinner but she ghosts me. Boo! I would have so flown that girl anywhere.

After a bit of cooldown, its too early to hit Nana so I decide to stroll the beer bars, which are pretty dead around 5 PM or so. But I stop into one for a game of pool and this turns into a whale of a time. I am playing with an impossibly slim girl with maybe a 6 face for me, but as we drink it gets progressively more handsy and cuddly and I know I will take her. But first some EPIC pool.

We break up into two teams. Me and my girl against two mamasans. And we basically slaughter them. One of the mamas is pretty good but inconsistent and the other not so good. We play like seven games and take a break when this other bar girl shows up. Fuck she can play. So I play against her and hold my own, but she beats me two times in a row. I mean a real pro.

Well I end up running up a HUGE (by Thai standards) bar bill of 3500 baht because I've been buying all four of them drinks plus myself for maybe four hours I guess. It was just a ton of fun. But I finally barfine my girl (2000+700) and she is THRILLED.

Quick aside. All the bargirls were quite cute. Not any less pretty than the girls at Nana plaza from my viewpoint. If you want to save a few bucks on takeout, this is a great option (though I spent it back in drinks!

In the room, we have a really great time. She is a pleaser and we do all the usual stuff. She has great BJ skills and very accommodating, but I can't bust a nut again, no matter how I try. She's very disappointed but I assure her its not her fault. They always ask me why I don't cum and I say I am old and too much drink. Both of which are true. But I fail to mention that I just fucked another girl and shot a hot load in her mouth. LOL.

By now, its like 10:30 and I haven't eaten dinner yet. So I drop by Hemingways which I will definitely recommend. The Wagyu ribeye, while not cheap ($50 USD) with truffle sauce is the best thing I have had in a while -- and I eat good when traveling -- so yeah, it was damn good.

My plan is to try to check out Levels, which is in my hotel anyhow and see what the vibe is, but leave enough time to pull a Nana chick if its a fail. I end up checking out both Levels and Sugar Club and they are virtually identical. 400 Baht entry includes one drink. Two professional dance girls up on stage -- really good actually -- and a hopping atmosphere. It would be a great club to go to with your girl. But in both cases there is a dearth of freelancers there and I exit after maybe 20 minutes of taking in the vibe.

So its off to Nana, I go! I decide to hit up Bunny 2 first, which is on the first floor as I had a good pull there last year. And this visit was great and awful all at once. Great was there was this 5 ft nothing hottie with banging natural the cups -- I shit you not -- and she was just bringing the dance and sex appeal like she would fuck your cock straight off you. So I bring her down for drink.

She is a fucking spitfire on my lap. First she is back grinding, and puts my hands on her tits and I am digging this. But then she turns around and straddles me and starts cowgirl grinding me. Wow. And kissing me. And gets out her tit and puts it in my mouth and so I am kneading her naked tits and they are FINE. And then she puts my hand inside her bikini and on her naked pussy. I mean a full on assault.

Well this sounds amazing and it was, but when I go to bar fine her she says she's on her period and can't. I suspect this is just an act as she is the master of sucking drinks out of you. She is drinking like a fish and I am buying for the mamasans and before I know it my bill is 1750 and I have to bail before I bleed any more on a non-bar-fine girl. But fuck she was fun and I wish I coulda nailed her.

So now its almost 1 oclock and I start to think I need to pull someone before its too late. I go to Billboard and honestly a lot of the girls musta been pulled because the stage is light. The white bikinis mean the camel toe is on point and Moon is there, so we exchange a glance or two, but I really want to pull someone new.

Over to Butterflies I hang for a bit, but Irin is not there and none of the rest of the talent inspires me. I noticed that Bunny had some really built girls, not so many pixies so I decide to try Bunny Balcony which is a super long shot since they pull me in and I am the only guy there with 12 or so girls dancing.

Well it doesn't take long to pick my girl. She stands out as super sexy and giving me the doe eyes and a rockin womans body, which I was hoping for after my pixies but not sure I'd find.

I call here down and she is thrilled. Gives me some good back grind while I get her a lady's drink. Sweet girl and affectionate and so, pulling a Bunny out of a hat (intended again!) I pull her are 1:55 AM with closing at 2! She is over the moon and its 3000+1000 I think.

Back in the room its a great time. I am pretty much fucked out at this point, but the Cialis is on point and I remain hard. She gives a very nice blowjob but the fucking is the highlight. I am totally surprised how tight she is -- I don't know if she is new or what, but holy fuck -- I have to ease my way in over a minute or so of gasping, grimacing and oohing. I have to go in a bit and out and a bit farther. Its fucking maddening and hornifying at the same time. But eventually I'm in and its ON!

Lots of fucking in Mish, and the Steve, with great making out. Doggie at end of the bed. Really great and lots of it. I know at this point its unlikely I can cum, but she is getting more and more vocal but in a very real way where I know she is building.

I put her on cowgirl and let her use me as a boytoy and does she ever. She is just grinding like her life depended on it -- does nothing for me, but man she is building and building and building and getting faster and faster. I let her grind me for surely 15 minutes and she is up to hummingbird pace. I have never seen anything like it -- she wants that O so bad and if she can just grind faster and a bit more. And BAMMM she has the biggest O from fucking I've ever seen. This was no act.

She collapses like a limp fish on me and kisses me and thanks me. And honest to god even though I didn't cum it was thrilling. Just being able to watch that unfold with my hard cock inside her was the most amazing thing.

And so, I close out the Bangkok trifecta on day 3 -- a massage place, a bar girl, and a gogo girl. All great in their own way. And the trifecta is complete![/QUOTE]Thanks Steve! I think this is what I'm after. Still a bit confused between bar girls and GOGO girls / venues, but I guess part of the experience is finding out for yourself right?

I'm also super interested in looking for clubs with FLs where you almost "pick up" the girl. Any recommendations would be great but I'll definitely be exploring!

[QUOTE=OceanSummerz;3014987]Thanks Steve! I think this is what I'm after. Still a bit confused between bar girls and GOGO girls / venues, but I guess part of the experience is finding out for yourself right?

I'm also super interested in looking for clubs with FLs where you almost "pick up" the girl. Any recommendations would be great but I'll definitely be exploring![/QUOTE]It's really not hard to navigate the difference. First let's start with this. Even tho there are gogos on Soi Cowboy that street sucks these days. For gogos go to Nana plaza.

If it's in Nana Plaza it's a gogo. Gogos have stages and the girls "dance" on stage (shuffle a bit). They wear numbers. There are mamasans. You get a seat and buy a beer and enjoy the show. See one you like call her down and have a drink. Get a little hands and test the chemistry. When the time comes you will say you want to take her. The mamasan will want you to pay the barfine and girls fee. Tell her you don't do that but happy to pay barfine now and pay the girl later.

Bar girls are generally more girl next door and simply work in the bar for drinks and getting taken home. There are no stages or dancing. Basically any bar outside Nana will have bar girls. There is a strip of them on Soi 7 and nearby.

To summarize. Gogos have stage and numbers. Bars don't. Go to Nana plaza for gogos. Not Soi Cowboy.

Supposedly Levels and Sugar Club have freelancers but as you see in my report I didn't find any. They are late night venues. Then of course there is Thermae which is its own thing and adequately covered here below.

Hi all.

I'm active in Colombia frequently, and there I usually use a Airbnb for my lodging. I was wondering what your guys' preferences. Hotels or Airbn, be and why?

I will be staying a week and a half here and a week and a half in Pattaya. My goal is to hit every BJ bar possible with some soapy massage detours. I might not even wash my own ass the whole time. Just go to the soapies. Additional question: How much time do you get at BJ bars in general? I've seen 20 minutes, and I've seen an hour.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3014989]It's really not hard to navigate the difference. First let's start with this. Even tho there are gogos on Soi Cowboy that street sucks these days. For gogos go to Nana plaza.

If it's in Nana Plaza it's a gogo. Gogos have stages and the girls "dance" on stage (shuffle a bit). They wear numbers. There are mamasans. You get a seat and buy a beer and enjoy the show. See one you like call her down and have a drink. Get a little hands and test the chemistry. When the time comes you will say you want to take her. The mamasan will want you to pay the barfine and girls fee. Tell her you don't do that but happy to pay barfine now and pay the girl later.

Bar girls are generally more girl next door and simply work in the bar for drinks and getting taken home. There are no stages or dancing. Basically any bar outside Nana will have bar girls. There is a strip of them on Soi 7 and nearby.

To summarize. Gogos have stage and numbers. Bars don't. Go to Nana plaza for gogos. Not Soi Cowboy.

Supposedly Levels and Sugar Club have freelancers but as you see in my report I didn't find any. They are late night venues. Then of course there is Thermae which is its own thing and adequately covered here below.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for full nudity, then visit to crazy house at soi cowboy is must.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;3014958]No first hand experience with this establishment: but the Red Fern is at the same location as the legendary Eden Club, and looks to have the same business model. Pro tip: pick the lady you fancy, tell her what you want, and let her choose her partner. [URL]https://redfernbangkok.com/[/URL]#pricing..[/QUOTE]Same location as Eden, that's were the similarities end. You'll find very very few if any positive reports (or any reports) on it. There was a post on it in here about a year ago from a senior member, thumbs down, all I remember was the girls were old and hags.

Unless someone is will to 'take one for the boys', probably best to go with the popular view and avoid the place.

[QUOTE=Ranvir226;3015048]If you are looking for full nudity, then visit to crazy house at soi cowboy is must.[/QUOTE]When CH 1st opened its doors around 2014, it easily had the best-looking girls on Cowboy and it instantly became a favorite go go of mine and many other like-minded punters. Go back and read the glowing reports. But slowly over the years their lineup declined on account of attrition and their failure to recruit new quality talent. I don't know about you, but watching 2 or 3 fat, tattooed girls dance naked is not a turn on for me. Thus by 2019 I had lost interest in Crazy and hardly stopped by there anymore even though I was friends with fat mama and everybody knew me and treated me like a VIP.

Anyway, I really hope things have gotten better at CH since covid although I have my doubts. 555. Still, I could not visit BKK and not stop by to check things out because once upon a time Crazy House was my favorite Go Go in BKK. Memories.

Reading up on Thai etiquette in preparation for my visit, I understand it is rude to touch people's heads, faces, or hair. Is this something that comes into play in private, or once the pants come off those rules go out the window? Is it something girls might instinctively dislike, but tolerate because they are getting paid? Should I practice my no-hands face fucking techniques?

Also read that showing the bottoms of your feet to someone is considered rude. Unclear how that affects foot fetishists.

[QUOTE=QualitySmut;3015025]Hi all.

I'm active in Colombia frequently, and there I usually use a Airbnb for my lodging. I was wondering what your guys' preferences. Hotels or Airbn, be and why?

I will be staying a week and a half here and a week and a half in Pattaya. My goal is to hit every BJ bar possible with some soapy massage detours. I might not even wash my own ass the whole time. Just go to the soapies. Additional question: How much time do you get at BJ bars in general? I've seen 20 minutes, and I've seen an hour.[/QUOTE]I use both and it largely depends on location and price. For example at my last two trips to Pattaya, I've been staying at The Base which are really nice condo Airbnbs centrally located, guest friendly and for the price, beats any hotel in the same area. For Bangkok, I've stayed at the Ruamchitt Hotel above Thermae Cafe because of the price, guest friendly and central location again. So those three factors are how I decide whether to stay at a hotel or Airbnb as each location may have hotels that will work better or some will have Airbnbs. So in advance of trips I scan for both.

[QUOTE=JayWonEm;3015165]Reading up on Thai etiquette in preparation for my visit, I understand it is rude to touch people's heads, faces, or hair. Is this something that comes into play in private, or once the pants come off those rules go out the window? Is it something girls might instinctively dislike, but tolerate because they are getting paid? Should I practice my no-hands face fucking techniques?

Also read that showing the bottoms of your feet to someone is considered rude. Unclear how that affects foot fetishists.[/QUOTE]I don't claim to be any Thai Culture and customs etiquette expert, but never come across issues as such in the bedroom.

What I have found regularly is girls don't want you stroking or messing with their hair and they especially don't want any love juice going in it. But it's simply cause they don't want the hassle of having to wash their hair or have to go back out on the street with messy hair, that's all.

[QUOTE=PgReal;3015070]Same location as Eden, that's were the similarities end. You'll find very very few if any positive reports (or any reports) on it. There was a post on it in here about a year ago from a senior member, thumbs down, all I remember was the girls were old and hags.

Unless someone is will to 'take one for the boys', probably best to go with the popular view and avoid the place.[/QUOTE]One persons opinion is the popular view? It feels like you are working from a knowledge deficit mate. At least the 2 girl and 3 girl option is stated plainly on the services menu, and the personnel in these places change all the time. And as for "old and hags" you did recommend Tulip LOL.

SL.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3015122]When CH 1st opened its doors around 2014, it easily had the best-looking girls on Cowboy and it instantly became a favorite go go of mine and many other like-minded punters. Go back and read the glowing reports. But slowly over the years their lineup declined on account of attrition and their failure to recruit new quality talent. I don't know about you, but watching 2 or 3 fat, tattooed girls dance naked is not a turn on for me. Thus by 2019 I had lost interest in Crazy and hardly stopped by there anymore even though I was friends with fat mama and everybody knew me and treated me like a VIP.

Anyway, I really hope things have gotten better at CH since covid although I have my doubts. 555. Still, I could not visit BKK and not stop by to check things out because once upon a time Crazy House was my favorite Go Go in BKK. Memories.[/QUOTE]The line up was nice. I went twice. I liked it, will visit again for sure an and when I am in BKK.

[QUOTE=PgReal;3015172]I don't claim to be any Thai Culture and customs etiquette expert, but never come across issues as such in the bedroom.

What I have found regularly is girls don't want you stroking or messing with their hair and they especially don't want any love juice going in it. But it's simply cause they don't want the hassle of having to wash their hair or have to go back out on the street with messy hair, that's all.[/QUOTE]Stroking and touching hair was specifically mentioned as something considered rude, so maybe it's more than just not wanting to wash it.

I wonder how many times a guy has done something that seemed natural to him but which put off the girl and maybe led to a bad session. It might seem natural for me to meet a girl and stroke her cheek, but to her that might be like if I just met her and grabbed her crotch.

Or maybe not, but it is something I plan to be aware of.