Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=XeniteMenos;3029160]Let me get this straight.

You paid 2500 baht for a simple BJ?

Just for including also CIM?[/QUOTE]I hate the set ups in the BJ Bars, massage shops and Happy Ending Shops. I much prefer whatever I do to be in my own apartment or sometimes in a very select couple of Short Time hotel rooms I occasionally use. And I like that I am not the one who has to get dressed and head outdoors to journey back to wherever after I finish.

This lady was several notches above any ladies I have seen at any of those other venues. I could have taken a less attractive lady from some of those other venues, but they're going to tack on an additional barfine of 500 baht at least to take her to my room for an hour and some of the better shops, the Happy Ending Shops, are already charging 1,500+ for an hour in their crappy rooms with filthy beds.

That is aside from the fact that I have gone to some of the highly-touted supposed PSE Happy Ending shops and have spent 2,000 for 60-90 minutes of boring massage that eventually culminated with a blowjob so incompetently done I've aborted the mission, thanked her for her time and moved on. And with about the same likelihood that I would get a BBBJCIP with an acceptable looking lady in those venues as I had with my Thermae lady no matter how legendary is the PSE shop for hiring ladies who "never disappoint" and "do everything. " That's what I get for daring to chose ladies in those shops that, IMO, are the only ones I would be interested in having any kind of sex with at all.

I suppose I could have shopped for a girl on the street and might have saved as much as 1,000 on the deal if I had struck gold and the girl really did follow through on something close to a BBBJCIM. But I have gotten about as many NO responses to that BBBJCIM request or crap attempts at it from above average looking street girls as frim the better looking girls in Thermae. No great advantage there in my experience. And I wasn't in the mood to continue cruising around, shopping and negotiating.

On that night at that hour I was more intrigued by that girl in that venue and was fine with spending money to get from her what she said Yes to for me. I was not then or really ever interested in shopping around for another hour or two seeing if I can find another lady of equal or better looks who will say Yes to what I want and see if I can save 1,000 baht. It's just not worth it to me.

However, on the CIM part, I would never have taken her if she had not agreed to the CIM part. There are plenty of good looking girls in Thermae and many of the better looking street girls who will deliver a NO to CIM BBBJ if I had been in the market for that, which I never am in the market for.

If you know of a place where any of us can see and interact up close and personal, not text, talk or even video chat, with above average face and body lookers who will come to my room and spend a leisurely hour or more naked, kissing, licking, sucking each other amd me to a fine 100% BBBJCIM finish for significantly less than 20 minutes of personal research and observation time and 2,500 baht of my money, then I am certainly open to hear about it.

I already know about ThaiFriendly and such but don't feel that option fits my criteria all that well. And I know about the street but have rarely seen better on the street than I got from inside Thermae that night. So if you have any other intel on it, please share.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3029080]Older mean more money for a thai girl. So its good for old farang in thailand.[/QUOTE]Old guys don't beat up the money maker.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3028747]

She did do something interesting about that, though. She didn't jump up and run to the bathroom to spit it out or even grab a tissue to spit into even though a tissue box was right there next to us. She took her time to stand up and as she walked slowly toward the bathroom with her mouth still full of my cum, she stopped to pick up her phone, check and read a couple of urgent messages from a couple of her worried repeat customers. Then she went into the bathroom to spit and rince. Never seen a girl do that.
[/QUOTE]Informative report, it is appreciated. It seems there have been more good reports over the last month or so than in recent past, keep it up!

There have been so many reports of the girls favoring the Koreans that it's nice to see that a normal farang can still get occasional good service from Thermae. I'm encouraged from this report to spend a little more time in Thermae than normal. Being and old fart, I can only finish BB, this cuts my chances way down low. But, once or twice I have gotten BBFSCIP from Thermae and I'd like to increase that number.

I got a chuckle out of her checking her phone while she still had a mouth full of cum, memorable. Perhaps could have been better if she took a phone call before the spit. I admit, I'm twisted and I like this kind of thing.

Gents,

Second trip to BKK coming up next week. I've been RTFFing for the last few months and recall a review of a bar but I can't remember the name or location. I recall that it's a smaller bar that's pretty chill. Many above average girls are in a hallway (that wouldn't be seen by someone just looking in the door. You can invite a few to the table to hang and eat and drink. I'll be in BKK with a couple of friends and this seems like a cool place to hang.

Early onset dementia may be kicking in and I could have this completely wrong, if so feel free to laugh and point. If I'm not off my rocker would someone send the name of the bar?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;3029212]Old guys don't beat up the money maker.[/QUOTE]That really depends on the health of the old guy. Some of us old dudes can still pop twice in a 90 minute session. But that's second pop requires a bit of pounding. Some young dudes pop faster than a 4th of July firecracker.
I know I've said this a million times but the key to a great sex life as you age is keeping the body in mind in shape. Well we cannot completely throw off the effects of aging, an excellent diet and a lot of exercise along with limiting alcohol and no tobacco goes a long way. I've been a gym rat since the early nineties but in the last few years I've changed my routine considerably. While I still do weights, the focus is now on HIIT, Pilates, and yoga stressing flexibility and endurance along with muscle tone. Also as we age our bodies don't process protein as well. What a young person can do with 10 g of protein those of us in our 50s and 60s need 30. Upping that protein intake as we age is vital. So take care of yourself and you can keep sexually active till you're very old. There's a dude at the gym who's 80, in incredible shape, and still sexually active. Contrast that with some of the fat out of shape alcoholics I know who can't even get it up in their mid-50s.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;3029281]That really depends on the health of the old guy. Some of us old dudes can still pop twice in a 90 minute session. But that's second pop requires a bit of pounding. Some young dudes pop faster than a 4th of July firecracker.
I know I've said this a million times but the key to a great sex life as you age is keeping the body in mind in shape. Well we cannot completely throw off the effects of aging, an excellent diet and a lot of exercise along with limiting alcohol and no tobacco goes a long way. I've been a gym rat since the early nineties but in the last few years I've changed my routine considerably. While I still do weights, the focus is now on HIIT, Pilates, and yoga stressing flexibility and endurance along with muscle tone. Also as we age our bodies don't process protein as well. What a young person can do with 10 g of protein those of us in our 50s and 60s need 30. Upping that protein intake as we age is vital. So take care of yourself and you can keep sexually active till you're very old. There's a dude at the gym who's 80, in incredible shape, and still sexually active. Contrast that with some of the fat out of shape alcoholics I know who can't even get it up in their mid-50s.[/QUOTE]Great advice and point of view! For me it is the punting life that gives me the incentive to stay in decent shape, watch my weight, drink moderately, and eat good & healthy. If not for attractive, young, girls I would probably be 250 lbs, and nailed to my living room couch smoking 5 or 6 hash joints a day!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TqSyvdqn9c&t=37s[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3029205]And with about the same likelihood that I would get a [b]BBBJCIP[/b] with an acceptable looking lady in those venues as I had with my Thermae lady no matter how legendary is the PSE shop for hiring ladies who "never disappoint" and "do everything. "[/QUOTE]I see now that was a typo there. I meant to type [B]BBFSCIP[/B] in that sentence.

Which was also the reason I only negotiated upfront for BBBJCIM with the lady in Thermae rather than negotiating upfront for BBFSCIP with her, the latter being about as certain a shut down and refusal with the better lookers in Thermae and under its horrid shoulder-to-shoulder line-up conditions as you can get. Well, I suppose negotiating for Bare Back Anal Cum Inside with the hottest girl in the room might be more challenging under those Thermae conditions. But that's about it.

Anyway, the idea was just to get an agreement in the bar for one of the better lookers and for whom I felt an intriguing attraction to come to my apartment, get naked and, at minimum, deliver a simple BBBJCIM but with the possibility that we will "go with the flow" in the safe and comfy confines of my apartment into BBFSCIP.

That didn't happen this time with this lady. But it could have. I have heard of it happening with other punters a hell of a lot more often than it has with me, especially with a first session with a better looking girl met in Thermae.

However, for 2,500 baht it was worth a try and turned out pretty sweet anyway.

As always, YMMV.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3029286]Great advice and point of view! For me it is the punting life that gives me the incentive to stay in decent shape, watch my weight, drink moderately, and eat good & healthy. If not for attractive, young, girls I would probably be 250 lbs, and nailed to my living room couch smoking 5 or 6 hash joints a day!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TqSyvdqn9c&t=37s[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't kid myself either. There are wrinkles in the neck and crow's feet and you know what, I'm sure I'm not that attractive to a gal in her early twenties. And my Target demographic is definitely not that. I prefer late twenties up myself, baby free if I can find it but that's difficult. For some reason much below that age wise I just find them incredibly irritating. Not that I'm going to engage in much conversation anyway but the younger generation is just completely different.
And I've even found one's in there late 30s and actually seem to enjoy the act with me. And I guess I prefer that over an early 20s starfish.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3029035]My GF left yesterday, and today after I went to check out the Thermae, but was closed (around noon), I was wandering aimlessly at the far end of Soy Cowboy, and entered a chinese casino to use the toilet, because I had a few beers already and needed to pee badly. A beautiful hostess tried to welcome me, but in my desperation I kind of dismissed her and went to where the toilet sign was pointing. After the bladder was empty, I returned to her and apologized, she spoke some english, but she used the phone to translate, excusing herself for being proficient in chinese but not english. The place was almost empty, and now that I had her talking to me, and holding her phone in her hand, I asked her about quitting time, and her phone nr of course. I got both, and at 4 pm when her shift was over I got her to come to my hotel where we had lunch, and then we fucked like bunnies until 8 pm when she left. Very sweet girl, nice smelling, funny, polite, and nice face and body. Before she left I put 2 kb in her purse, I don't know if she saw me or not from the bathroom mirror where she was putting on lipstick, but I wanted to avoid a possible awkward moment handing money to her directly. Got a few pics from her FB, and some from my phone.[/QUOTE]Good for you on that nice catch. And thanks for reporting about it.

I had no idea there was a "Chinese casino" near the far end of Soi Cowboy. Would that me the far end where Soi Cowboy connects with Asok or the far end where it connects with Soi 23?

Never knew there was any casino in the immediate area. Then again, I am not Chinese so maybe that's why.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3029205]I hate the set ups in the BJ Bars, massage shops and Happy Ending Shops. I much prefer whatever I do to be in my own apartment or sometimes in a very select couple of Short Time hotel rooms I occasionally use. And I like that I am not the one who has to get dressed and head outdoors to journey back to wherever after I finish.

This lady was several notches above any ladies I have seen at any of those other venues. I could have taken a less attractive lady from some of those other venues, but they're going to tack on an additional barfine of 500 baht at least to take her to my room for an hour and some of the better shops, the Happy Ending Shops, are already charging 1,500+ for an hour in their crappy rooms with filthy beds.

That is aside from the fact that I have gone to some of the highly-touted supposed PSE Happy Ending shops and have spent 2,000 for 60-90 minutes of boring massage that eventually culminated with a blowjob so incompetently done I've aborted the mission, thanked her for her time and moved on. And with about the same likelihood that I would get a BBBJCIP with an acceptable looking lady in those venues as I had with my Thermae lady no matter how legendary is the PSE shop for hiring ladies who "never disappoint" and "do everything. " That's what I get for daring to chose ladies in those shops that, IMO, are the only ones I would be interested in having any kind of sex with at all..[/QUOTE]Then I must do something differently because I don't lose time with onsite search and I book all my girls through TF.

So far I had great success booking girls of age 25-30 year old For 2-2.5 hours, with as many times finishing as I want. CIM was never part of the deal, but most of the times it happens during the act and no girl complained much.

All above for 2-2500 baht.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3029333]Good for you on that nice catch. And thanks for reporting about it.

I had no idea there was a "Chinese casino" near the far end of Soi Cowboy. Would that me the far end where Soi Cowboy connects with Asok or the far end where it connects with Soi 23?

Never knew there was any casino in the immediate area. Then again, I am not Chinese so maybe that's why.[/QUOTE]I, also, never knew of a casino on Soi Cowboy. Or even in the area noted. Could be that Old an Ugly was using the word "casino" as it has been traditionally / originally used. While we are accustomed to referring to casinos as places where games are played and money is wagered, the original meaning of "casino" simply means a meeting place where social games are played. Drinking games? Bingo anybody? LOL.

Sam.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;3028791]I looked at the offerings on the Seeking website for Bangkok ladies and there are a number that are worthy of consideration if you are looking for more LT / evening / date types arrangements. I would be curious what is the going rate for these girls on a Pay Per Meet basis. And yes I know it is very much dependent on the lady, but in general if anyone has been active on Seeking in BK, let me know how you found the experience. If I pull the trigger I will of course do the same.

TIA.

Sky.[/QUOTE]It seems that 7 K is the popular price for an evening that includes some version of GFE type sex. All of them promise to get dressed up for the occasion. One said that the no overnight stay I requested would be 4500 B, but if she stayed overnight and had morning sex it would be 7 K. My favorite so far is a blond attractive farang lady that told me she "requires" 30,000 for the evening and has to leave early for work the next morning, so we need to meet at my hotel first so she can leave her clothes for work the next morning. I politely declined, she asked why and I said, this has nothing to due with your "worth", but the experience does not meet the threshold for a 30,000 evening without regard to who the lady might be that evening. One said 4500 if she doesn't stay all night. I tell them all I am not interested in overnights. I have not made any commitments with any and won't negotiations until I have had a video contact.

How do you ask the girl about BBFSCIP and BBBJCIM in simple English or use Thai language? I always hesitate to ask or I don't know how to ask.

Suggestion welcome.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3029290]I see now that was a typo there. I meant to type [B]BBFSCIP[/B] in that sentence.

Which was also the reason I only negotiated upfront for BBBJCIM with the lady in Thermae rather than negotiating upfront for BBFSCIP with her, the latter being about as certain a shut down and refusal with the better lookers in Thermae and under its horrid shoulder-to-shoulder line-up conditions as you can get. Well, I suppose negotiating for Bare Back Anal Cum Inside with the hottest girl in the room might be more challenging under those Thermae conditions. But that's about it.

Anyway, the idea was just to get an agreement in the bar for one of the better lookers and for whom I felt an intriguing attraction to come to my apartment, get naked and, at minimum, deliver a simple BBBJCIM but with the possibility that we will "go with the flow" in the safe and comfy confines of my apartment into BBFSCIP.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaturnDays;3029680]How do you ask the girl about BBFSCIP and BBBJCIM in simple English or use Thai language? I always hesitate to ask or I don't know how to ask.

Suggestion welcome.[/QUOTE]Simple English supplemented by translator so she can read in Thai. Confirm that she understands and agrees, otherwise some will make excuses and renig.

Boom boom sex no condom. Finish inside.

Blow job no condom. Finish in mouth.

[QUOTE=SaturnDays;3029680]How do you ask the girl about BBFSCIP and BBBJCIM in simple English or use Thai language? I always hesitate to ask or I don't know how to ask.

Suggestion welcome.[/QUOTE]HorseTrader is right. I put a few short statements about what I want in Google Translate, translate from English into Thai. And I take a screenshot of that page showing my statements in English and the Thai translation. Just in case the translation disappears in the app, then I can just show the screenshot of it in my Photo Gallery.

If you want to be a little more sure about what exactly she is reading in the translation to Thai, reverse translate that first English to Thai translation back to English and see how it reads from your side. You can then tweak a few words or phrases here and there until it gets closer to what you want her to read and, hopefully, understand.

I am more likely to show my phone screen with a translation page like that in Thermae or on the street because there just isn't time to sit, cuddle, speak or mime a negotiation as I would in a bar. But, imo, it is about the only way to avoid getting a definite NO to anything in Thermae other than for basic issues like How Long, How Many Pops and How Much Baht even if the girl is overjoyed by the idea of fucking you without a condom until you finish inside her pussy or giving you a blowjob without a condom until you finish inside her mouth. The mere fact that someone else in the room or perhaps in the entire kingdom of Thailand might overhear you asking for either one will essentially eliminate all possibility of her saying Yes.

In my case, I also include a mention that I have a motorbike parked right around the corner and live on Soi blah blah so that issue is settled too.

Several years ago somebody very fluent in Thai posted the best Thai words and phrases to use in these matters so there would be no misunderstanding between you and the girl. But I don't remember any of them or which folder in which app I moved them. LOL.