Sosua Reports

Excellent post, Ford.

[QUOTE=Ford] Helpmann and George90 are both sharp guys and I've enjoyed their contributions in the past. [/QUOTE]

And thank you very much for the kind words!

What did she steal?

[QUOTE=Papa Benito]She is about 26, educated, claims to be 3rd year law student, and employed as bartender at an all inclusive hotel, Casa Marina. Not great looking, thick legs and hips. Good lay and service. She hangs in little hotel bars like New Garden Hotel during the day. She is a Thief! Avoid! Seems like a good deal for 1000 pesos. Not![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DR Monger II]What did she steal?[/QUOTE]Not only what did she steal. But, where is the pic of her so we can all be aware. I know a thick girl named Naomi that used to work at the Palace back in the day. If its her, I know her well and I doubt she would steal. Show us a pic.

[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]I'm heading back to DR tomorrow (my 8th trip in 2 yrs)and I'm flying into POP to spend Friday in Sosua but my lovely university novia in SD demands I be there Sat. I'll drive if I have to(I've done it before) I can't seem to find any info on flights to SDQ from the north. Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]I have taken that Caribe Tours bus from POP to SDQ and make sure that you wear a sweater or jacket because that air blows super cold..Now imagine suffering through that for 5 hours..

What you can do is drive, If you have rented the car already, make her take a bus, or pay a taxi about ($115) to take you straight there.

Thanks guys for all the info. I decided tp drive cause I hate not being in control of my own destiny.

I pulled into Sosua about 5pm and after checking in made my way straight over to the Orange store to buy a simm chip. Met a couple of cute honey's that work at the store but no time for anything as I only wanted to check out what the market was in the disco's, so I got my simm and headed back to the hotel to rest and clean up.

That night around 10pm I went to classic's had a presidente down stairs and then headed upstairs around 11pm. The place was just starting to get movin'.
I'm a salsero and merenguero so I hit the dance floor as soon as some salsa music called me forth. Unfortuately not many chicas in the DR can dance salsa and what they do know is very limited. When it comes to merengue, most chicas can do the basics but can't follow too many advanced moves and this was the case that night.

Later in the night I met up with a morena who was okay(8) and as it was getting late I asked her to come to my hotel room. She agreed but we had to go to her apt so she could change and drop off her friend. We get to her apt and both start undressing, the friend looks good as I watch her remove her pants and top and climb into bed with just her thong. She smiles and continues to talk to me while I wait for my "chica". After getting a nice strip tease, the morena is ready to go. We leave her friend and head to my hotel.

That night I get a long bbbj and some great gfe. In the morning I wake up early and after a shower we go back to her apt. Now I don't like to be the first to bring up $ and apparently she doesn't either so we didn't talk price. We are infront of her apt and now and we start the discoarse. She asks for RD4000, I laugh and say no. I say RD1800 is all I have, she laughs and says no. I say no kidding that's it. She continues to inform of all the reasons why no less than RD3000 won't do and we are stuck at an impass. I tell her I have to leave for SD and give her the RD1800 she takes it, crumples it up, throws it on the floorboard of the car and gets out of the car. I don't have time for this so I drive away.

Four hours later I'm in SD with my beautiful chica and all is well. I stay with her for the next three days. She is why I keep returning to the DR. (Generally speaking, if you take the time to learn the culture and the language it is very easy to develop relationships with nonpros who will like you for who are and not just for what you can do for them financially).

I head back to sosua for the last night and pull out an interesting chica from Latin's disco. We get back to the hotelroom and she wants RD1200 for st. I agree and she spends the next 2 hours giving one of the best tongue baths I've had...

If your heading to the DR for cheap P4P and don't know the language or culture and don't have the inclination to learn them, my advise is don't bother.

Nice looking Chica. Thanks for the post. I tend to disagree on a couple of issues in your post. One, for all the newbies you NEVER take advantage of the services of the chica without having agreed upon a price. You survived this time but you cood have very easily ended up at the police station trying to pay your way out of a sticky situation. It sounds like you were with a pretty classy chica to not escalate the issue. Many would still be screaming for the police. You may want to consider yourself lucky and change your strategy on this one unless you are a Big baller that will pay anything.

I agree that learing the language and culture will enhance ones abilities, but I would not say don't bother if one cares not to learn. When it comes to Sex, I see guys who can't say Hola in Spanish have a great time in the DR. Sure they probable pay more because of the inability to negotiate. Many guys care less about the culture. They are strictly there for the services that are rendered. It soulds callus but I can relate. I happen to enjoy learning the people, country and the culture by day, but at night I could CARE LESS. Most of the Chicas don't know the culture. They are strictly surviving and know money.



[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Thanks guys for all the info. I decided tp drive cause I hate not being in control of my own destiny.

I pulled into Sosua about 5pm and after checking in made my way straight over to the Orange store to buy a simm chip. Met a couple of cute honey's that work at the store but no time for anything as I only wanted to check out what the market was in the disco's, so I got my simm and headed back to the hotel to rest and clean up.

That night around 10pm I went to classic's had a presidente down stairs and then headed upstairs around 11pm. The place was just starting to get movin'.
I'm a salsero and merenguero so I hit the dance floor as soon as some salsa music called me forth. Unfortuately not many chicas in the DR can dance salsa and what they do know is very limited. When it comes to merengue, most chicas can do the basics but can't follow too many advanced moves and this was the case that night.

Later in the night I met up with a morena who was okay(8) and as it was getting late I asked her to come to my hotel room. She agreed but we had to go to her apt so she could change and drop off her friend. We get to her apt and both start undressing, the friend looks good as I watch her remove her pants and top and climb into bed with just her thong. She smiles and continues to talk to me while I wait for my "chica". After getting a nice strip tease, the morena is ready to go. We leave her friend and head to my hotel.

That night I get a long bbbj and some great gfe. In the morning I wake up early and after a shower we go back to her apt. Now I don't like to be the first to bring up $ and apparently she doesn't either so we didn't talk price. We are infront of her apt and now and we start the discoarse. She asks for RD4000, I laugh and say no. I say RD1800 is all I have, she laughs and says no. I say no kidding that's it. She continues to inform of all the reasons why no less than RD3000 won't do and we are stuck at an impass. I tell her I have to leave for SD and give her the RD1800 she takes it, crumples it up, throws it on the floorboard of the car and gets out of the car. I don't have time for this so I drive away.

Four hours later I'm in SD with my beautiful chica and all is well. I stay with her for the next three days. She is why I keep returning to the DR. (Generally speaking, if you take the time to learn the culture and the language it is very easy to develop relationships with nonpros who will like you for who are and not just for what you can do for them financially).

I head back to sosua for the last night and pull out an interesting chica from Latin's disco. We get back to the hotelroom and she wants RD1200 for st. I agree and she spends the next 2 hours giving one of the best tongue baths I've had...

If your heading to the DR for cheap P4P and don't know the language or culture and don't have the inclination to learn them, my advise is don't bother.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the reply Griot. Actually that is what I've been doing for many, many years. There is an old adage that I strictly adhere to in business and that is
" The first to state a price, looses ". I travel around the world and luck, in my view, has little to do with how situations unfold in my interactions. You don't get what you deserve in life, you get what you negotiate. That my friend, is why the former is my main tool in all negotiations...

Although, I highly recommend that one negotiate, 20% of the time I don't. If the girl is so hard or so new I will look to negotiate as to limit confusion. Nevertheless, in some instances, I don't negotiate.

When I feel I'm in a position of power, knowing that the woman will take what I give her, I don't bother to negotiate. We have some drinks, fuck, then I drive her back.

-Helpmann :)

Why not just give a lowball price? 500 for ST, 1000 for LT?

[QUOTE=DR Monger II]Why not just give a lowball price? 500 for ST, 1000 for LT?[/QUOTE]I generally see lowballing as a joke and I am positive the girls see it that way as well (you only have one chance to make a first impression.) You're either in Boca Chica (or Sosua) to buy pussy or not. If you want to make jokes, it's done to your detriment.

I'm not saying that I don't offer RD$500. I'm just saying that I offer RD$500 for girls that are approx. RD$500. For short-time, sometimes I pay RD$600, RD$700, RD$800, RD$1,000 or RD$1,200 (it's been a long time since I've paid more than RD$1,200 for anything in BC or Sosua.)

Just by looking at the girl and evaluating your surroundings you should know off the bat approximately how much it's going to cost you. Then, depending on how horny you are, you should offer 0-20% less.

[b]If you really want to bang this girl:[/b]
1) Estimate how much it's going to cost you [B]("STEP #1")[/B]
2) Decide if you want to pay this price
3) Make an offer (0-20% less estimate)
4) Listen to her acquiesce or negotiate

You should be more than willing to walk away if she asks for more than 20% of your initial offer.

[b]BTW: If the girl agrees rather quickly to accompany you after you've made your initial offer, you've paid too much! A slow decision can mean a number of things.[/b]

-Helpmann :)

These sound like figures from a used car purchase. every circumstance is different. I really don't think there is a correct formula. Trying to create one is "HG". Now if these are meant to be starting guidelines, than I can agree with this. Experience is the only way to achieve proper skills to negociate. Alot of factors come into play that are not mentioned. Compitition on that particular night is a big one. And I am refering to not only the number of shoppers, but also the quality of the "talent pool" out and about on any given night. I do agree that low balling is a sure way to a lousy performance. you must hit that golden number where she knows she cannot railroad you, but she still wants and needs your business. You must remember that this is strictly a business deal, nothing more. She wants all she can get, with the least amount of "Wear and Tear". You want a GFE, or a wild fuck for as little as you can. A quick offer is also not a good idea. I am not saying wait to move in. This is also foolish. Move in, have a few drinks, and then ease into the business dealings. After she quotes you, and you must let her come up with the starting figure, don't react immediatly to it. let her try to read your mind. A poker face, and no immediate reaction will soon bring a more attactive offer quickly.

"the one and only"

I think that its best to use whichever style that makes you feel comfortable. I personally like to negotiate before we get started to minimize the confusion.

But on the other hand I have a monger in law that will not go with a girl if she brings up price beforehand..To me that is strange, but to each its own.

If we both are in the marketplace looking to fulfill each others needs then to me its best to be straightforward with each other on our expectations.

I also don't pay attention to guys quotes on price because some guys will go with any old thing, while others have a more descriminating taste.

I ran into a woman in Sosua that wouldn't give me a price. She wanted me to offer first. I just sat there and drank and then I left.

[QUOTE=Fantasy]These sound like figures from a used car purchase. every circumstance is different. I really don't think there is a correct formula. Trying to create one is "HG"... [/QUOTE]Hog wash? God, I hope you're not referring to my post? There is and has been a method to negotiations. There are plenty of courses and books on how to negotiate and they all generally refer to knowing ones personal BATNA (your "price") and trying to figure out the other party's BATNA (her "price.")

Once you know [b]"STEP #1",[/b] the other party's BATNA (Best Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement), you know what the other person wants and it's just a matter of whether you choose to pay it.

Believe me, negotiating with uneducated third world hookers isn't that hard! Once you realize that some women (Duarte and Classicos girls) are more than willing to go home alone every night, 7-nights a week, than negotiate a lower price, you know to stay clear of these irrational tigres (they're not that "irrational"," they're just "gambling" that they can find a "sucker" before they go broke.) Most of the tigres can be found in the evenings on Duarte Street (Boca Chica) and at clubs like Classicos (Sosua.) Call it pride or laziness, but most of these girls are much more interested in hanging out with their friends than making money and because they're "gambling" looking for the "sucker," they're behind (in debt) and feel the pressure to "double down" (RD$2,000+), instead of lowering their prices.

If you're negotiating with gazelles, you don't have much experience estimating BATNAs, and you really want to bang this chick, buy her a drink and feel her out. Unless, I think I'll have to pay RD$1,000+, I won't need the drink and conversation. Usually, I offer RD$700 or RD$800; however, sometimes their BATNAs are RD$600 and RD$700 respectively. This is a loss of RD$100, which for me, equates to the price of my time + her drink.

Good Luck!
Helpmann :)

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BATNA[/url]

I see talk of Sosua? Please tell me is this a part of a city? A street? I am new to this and I have not really figured things out yet. I am flying into Santo Domingo, I need a clean cheap hotel close to the action. Can you help? I have seen the names Hotel Europa & Aurora Hotel but I can't find them on the net. Is there a certain part of the city where the clubs are located. Whats best area to stay?

Thanks Larry