Lima

Hi Hobo3.

In your comment:

"I've never paid more than 400 soles ($100) for a girl in Lima, and I've had the top 1% that the city has to offer. ".

You describe yourself as so unique that perhaps girls should be paying you instead?

If you get off your high horse and not have the "I-know=it-all, I am fluent in Spanish" attitude, perhaps your comments would merit some credence.

Additionally, your comment:

"it's amazing that we are at a place where pimps are convincing men that they are not offering them seasoned pros, when they clearly are. ".

Borders on arrogance (The act or habit of arrogating, or making undue claims in an overbearing manner; that species of pride which consists in exorbitant claims of rank, dignity, estimation, or power, or which exalts the worth or importance of the person to an undue degree; proud contempt of others; lordliness; haughtiness; self-assumption; presumption.) when you call someone, you don't know, a pimp (A person who solicits customers for prostitution and acts as manager for prostitutes; a panderer.).

I live in the states and I am blessed with a good living so thank Goodness I don't need a $40 "Commission" for helping ISG folks with introductions which help both sides and much less any money from these poor girls.

Perhaps you should stay in the countries where you attitude and attributes may be more welcome and save us from your bias comments.

Later.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;2970661]As somebody who's been to Lima many times and speaks fluent Spanish, it's amazing that we are at a place where pimps are convincing men that they are not offering them seasoned pros, when they clearly are. Women who charge those obscene prices for 'Peruvian beauty', which is not supermodel beauty like you would see in other Latin American countries, is pretty amazing, honestly. I've never paid more than 400 soles ($100) for a girl in Lima, and I've had the top 1% that the city has to offer. These are eye-gouging price that you paid, and it's no surprise why people don't come to the city very often. You can get prettier girls for less in so many other countries. If these are the prices that people are paying now, then tourists will continue not come to this city. They need to reel back on their greed to get more tourists to come here, especially since beauty is not in high supply in this city. It is a clean, pretty city by the water with amazing food, but the deal you get with the chicas will not bring many tourists.

They're charging you these prices because you're from a 1st world country. At the Chongos for instance they charge the mainly locals roughly 50-100 soles ($13-26) for a short time. Ok, you went on dates, fed them etc so long term stay shouldn't be more than 400 soles. Listen if you want to pay $200 k for a Honda Accord, you can but sometimes it's just the principle.

I'm still glad you had a good time. For people less into mongering, it's a great city.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2970745]I like your style of mongering and I operate the same way. I'm thinking about a trip to Lima for the ocean and food. I have spent a lot of time in Mexico and Colombia and speak intermediate spanish. Did Cuba a few times too. No way I'd go to a chongo. You said that the girls charged S450 for 90 minutes about $120. But at the end said that you paid $175- $225. What were the extra expenses? Food and drink? Paid for extra time / services? Has anybody tried seeking there?[/QUOTE]I also like [B]JayWonEm[/B]'s style, although I'd rather look in the S /200 - S /250 market.

Regarding the extra costs, [B]JayWonEm[/B] already said in his original report what the additional costs were; two of the girls asked for an extra charge for the second pop, the third one gave it for free, also he mentioned tips so one could infer that the extra charge two of the girls asked for was around $55 and that he gave each of the three a tip of about $50, give or take.

By the way, you Americans have that annoying habit of tipping which forces us locals, who are used to negotiating first and then paying the agreed price, to add tips so we don't look cheap ha, ha, ha! I've myself kind of gotten used to tip, I just take it into account when negotiating the "basic" price. You are a bad influence hahaha.

And finally, regarding Seeking, it is a very active App here in Peru, there are lots of very sexy and willing girls to be found there. Glambu is the other very active App here, it seems to me that there are more girls on Glambu than on Seeking. On average, Glambu girls are cheaper and Seeking girls are prettier; However, this is not an absolute rule, besides about a third of the girls on Seeking can also be found on Glambu at a lower price.

J. J.

[QUOTE=JackJericho;2973591] Glambu is the other very active App here, it seems to me that there are more girls on Glambu than on Seeking. On average, Glambu girls are cheaper and Seeking girls are prettier; However, this is not an absolute rule, besides about a third of the girls on Seeking can also be found on Glambu at a lower price.
[/QUOTE]I will be traveling to Lima for the first time next week. I'm going to sign up for the Glambu membership in a few days and start inviting girls.

Any general tips on how to be successful in finding semi-pros would be much appreciated! Also general costs? I think in one of your previous post you mentioned 150-250 soles per date, but that was over 2 years ago.

I am in Lince now. I know a few of you were asking about street walkers and their like 6-12 around Centro Comercial Risso. From what I read this used to be a hot stop but looks like Lince or part of it is gentrified. Maybe their more on the weekend, but now during the week. Their like 2 cops on every corner. The group of 6 I say were like 30 feet away from the cops.

But I did talk to them so looks like the cost is 100-150 soles. Maybe more if you don't speak spanish for an hours. You also need to pay a hourly hotel. Which cost like an other 60-100.

I would not recommend doing this. The cop may ask for a bribe, the first don't look that pretty.

I would go to Las Sirenitas, Sexi Geishas, or la clinica del corazon. Girls their charge 50 a pop and you wanted an hour with them, they will charge you 200 soles. And they are on average sexier too.

If you don't like the idea of going in after after someone else. Go at 4 pm. That when most of the girls do a shift change. You could be the first guy that day.

[QUOTE=ChanceSome;2974283]I will be traveling to Lima for the first time next week. I'm going to sign up for the Glambu membership in a few days and start inviting girls.

Any general tips on how to be successful in finding semi-pros would be much appreciated! Also general costs? I think in one of your previous post you mentioned 150-250 soles per date, but that was over 2 years ago.[/QUOTE]There is no recipe for that; all I can do is to share my experience. It usually is not that difficult to tell which are the pros and which the amateurs (by principle, all of them are wh*res) and it all goes through the initial contact. This is what I do, I hope it helps you:

For first contact I just say "Hello, I think you are beautiful, I'd like to know more about you". The pros will immediately answer with a menu of services and prices.

To those who answer like not-a-seasoned-pro, I ask "What are you looking for in the App?" Amateurs, at least most of them, will be looking for a Sugar Daddy (which I have no intention to become), they will probably ask for something permanent or, maybe, some help to pay for their university or something like that, but some will directly ask for "apoyo economico" which translates as "economical support" but actually means sex for a fee on a date to date basis; and that doesn't always mean that she is a pro, maybe she just wants to try a few guys before settling on just one as her Sugar Daddy, or maybe she just wants to make some money that she needs urgently and doesn't plan to keep doing it for long (that plan never works). Be careful, some pros trying to look like amateurs will go that way too.

Then we go into what I am looking for in the App, and it is always "someone who enjoys having sex with me as much as I enjoy having sex with her" which leads to specifics. What I want, what I like, what is an absolute condition for me (like BBBJ, DFK etc.). Some girls, amateurs or pros, will simply refuse to some things and sometimes I accept the refusal "for the first date" letting her know that I'd really like her to consider doing that, eventually. And then we go into the details for the first date, basically how much does she expect to get for the date. An amateur will accept a sum for "the date" and agree to let the date find its own way, some will have a time restriction (because they need to get home at a certain time, or any other valid reason) but most will be flexible about that. A pro will already have an established price for a given time and / or a given number of pops and, of course, an established price for the extras (extra time, extra pops, anal, BBBJ, DATY, CIM, DFK, etc. Etc. Etc.). Any girl who asks for extra money for extra time or extra pops is a pro.

Of course, nothing of that is written on stone. Some amateurs may look like pros and some pros will succeed in looking like amateurs, but that's the way this game is played.

Good luck hunting!

J. J.

So, I wanted to throw out an opinion on Lima, based on my experience there over my one week stay this past summer. Lima is a superb, budget minded location, when considering the general feeling and reality of "safety" there. I just felt at ease there, even when travelling to random unknown APTs to see some Kines in all parts of the city. I felt safer there at midnight, even in the random suburbs, than I do in my own hometown! San Borja, Lince, Miraflores, Los Olivos, etc. - are all a cakewalk in terms of safety and navigation. Nobody approaches you, and there's just zero sketchy stuff going on. Whereas, If you have been to Medellin for example, and you even have a modicum of awareness, there is absolutely a palpable danger there. I'm not against spending whatever, or visiting dangerous places, but it just seems that for the most part: Lima is cheaper or just as cheap, but safer than other popular South American destinations discussed here.

Some random info gleaned from my trip: don't waste your time on the street scene. They are going to charge you (or at least try, I find negotiating a woman down significantly from her initial ask leads to poor service, better to move on) the same amount the APT chicas do, otherwise known as Kines, which are MUCH higher quality in looks on average. A simple google search query of "Kines Lima" will get you well on your way with what the APT chicas are like in Lima. Out of the 6 Kines I saw, the worst and only "scam" I ran into was a woman who looked exactly like her pictures, but her face and hands gave me the idea she was obviously 10 years older than she claimed in her profile, - no big deal. Other than that, all my interactions were swell. That being said, I'm not a "GFE" seeker, as in Lima kissing and BBBJ are often quoted as extras or as distinctions of superior service. If you're looking for online options, I think just the Kines make the trip worth it. When you add in the "Chongos," (which I will try and report back on, after my next trip coming up) Lima is quite the locale.

Some caveats to my experience: I would rather get shot in the dick than play the Seeking / FB / Insta / Telegram game of securing dates with women. I get that some of you guys have serious skills in navigating and enduring those mediums, and I applaud that. I know there are 9's and 10's out there that I am assuming the above apps are the best way to access. If that's your MO, I don't know what that's like in Lima, or as contrasted to other destinations. But, there are definitely numerous 8's to be had with ease in Lima. I digress, Lima is great if you want to skip all of that, and just hit the ground running with relative ease.

[QUOTE=TheVita;2974351]I am in Lince now. I know a few of you were asking about street walkers and their like 6-12 around Centro Comercial Risso. From what I read this used to be a hot stop but looks like Lince or part of it is gentrified. Maybe their more on the weekend, but now during the week. Their like 2 cops on every corner. The group of 6 I say were like 30 feet away from the cops.

But I did talk to them so looks like the cost is 100-150 soles. Maybe more if you don't speak spanish for an hours. You also need to pay a hourly hotel. Which cost like an other 60-100.

I would not recommend doing this. The cop may ask for a bribe, the first don't look that pretty. [/QUOTE]Thanks Vita. I will be staying in Lince end of next week and will scope out the streetwalker scene. Not usually my scene, but photokines seems to be sketchy in Lima based on recent reviews where guys were getting extorted.

My plan is mainly to do Glambu and backup is Lince streetwalkers if the date flakes or there's no chemistry.

[QUOTE=JackJericho;2974376]There is no recipe for that; all I can do is to share my experience. It usually is not that difficult to tell which are the pros and which the amateurs (by principle, all of them are wh*res) and it all goes through the initial contact. This is what I do, I hope it helps you: [/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips Jack. I'm looking forward to meeting some Glambu cuties =).

[QUOTE=TheVita;2974351]I am in Lince now. I know a few of you were asking about street walkers and their like 6-12 around Centro Comercial Risso. From what I read this used to be a hot stop but looks like Lince or part of it is gentrified. Maybe their more on the weekend, but now during the week. Their like 2 cops on every corner. The group of 6 I say were like 30 feet away from the cops.

But I did talk to them so looks like the cost is 100-150 soles. Maybe more if you don't speak spanish for an hours. You also need to pay a hourly hotel. Which cost like an other 60-100.

I would not recommend doing this. The cop may ask for a bribe, the first don't look that pretty.

I would go to Las Sirenitas, Sexi Geishas, or la clinica del corazon. Girls their charge 50 a pop and you wanted an hour with them, they will charge you 200 soles. And they are on average sexier too.

If you don't like the idea of going in after after someone else. Go at 4 pm. That when most of the girls do a shift change. You could be the first guy that day.[/QUOTE]Why do you say the cop may ask for a bribe? Have you witnessed municipal police taking bribes or have read about it?

Las Serenitas is S /40 a pop for 20 minutes. A house rule - , how it worked out to be S /200 for an hour?

Which time of the day or night is your experience around CC Risso and have you checked out other streets in Lince?

Which exactly hotels have you obtained short time rates from?

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=ChanceSome;2974574]Thanks Vita. I will be staying in Lince end of next week and will scope out the streetwalker scene. Not usually my scene, but photokines seems to be sketchy in Lima based on recent reviews where guys were getting extorted.

My plan is mainly to do Glambu and backup is Lince streetwalkers if the date flakes or there's no chemistry.[/QUOTE]I would just go to Geishas or Las Sirenitas. The Ecuadorian their a crazy good. In sirenitas their a girl that look like mia khalifa but shorter. Just be safe you go with a street worker. Talking some locals they said their a reason their working the corner and not the clubs.

Their also some night clubs that have sexier pros that charge the same but I don't know the locations.

[QUOTE=Questner;2974649]Why do you say the cop may ask for a bribe? Have you witnessed municipal police taking bribes or have read about it?

Las Serenitas is S /40 a pop for 20 minutes. A house rule - , how it worked out to be S /200 for an hour?

Which time of the day or night is your experience around CC Risso and have you checked out other streets in Lince?

Which exactly hotels have you obtained short time rates from?

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Something I read. It happens a lot in Miami too. I am also used to cops or millinery wanting a bribe. Normal in taxis but sometimes when walking alone drunk. It also happen to a lot of my primos who live in lima. I would recommend traving in groups.

I maybe wrong but I think you are talking about scarlet VIP. Other local Spanish forums got all confirm ever girl charges 50 soles. But the hours thing is what I was quoted by 4 different girls. They would all be lying to me so I will ask some locals. They also quoted me 30 min 100 each girl for a threesome. But you need to ask ahead some girls only work with their friends.

I walked from Arenales to Risso. So I don't know if their more around. The closer I got the Risso the more random girls would ask me if I wanted a good time. The locals tell me centrol has more walkers.

For the hotels you will see them everywhere. They are not "hotels" but they will call themselves hostels or HP. Normal with a logo of a couple kissing. They charge around 60 soles for a few hours. But you can find a hotel hotel in lince for the same price.

Is their a way to check the house rules? I did not know their were house rules beside no drug, weapons, hats, and cellphone off.

[QUOTE=ChanceSome;2974575]Thanks for the tips Jack. I'm looking forward to meeting some Glambu cuties =).[/QUOTE]I hope you have a good time in Lima and, most importantly, that you report your experience here at the forum.

By the way, I don't live in Lima anymore, I only go there during the summer (I really HATE the European winter) so my last reports might be a little outdated. From what I've heard (or rather read) at local forums, prices seem to have gone up a little bit, so the amateur girls you may find on Glambu might be in the 200 to 300 soles range. Oh! And be wary of girls with 24/7 availability, they are always pros, amateurs always have jobs, classes, family obligations or any valid reason to have limited availability; however, like everything else in Lima, that is open to negotiation.

Welcome to Peru.

J. J.

[QUOTE=JackJericho;2974376]There is no recipe for that; all I can do is to share my experience. It usually is not that difficult to tell which are the pros and which the amateurs (by principle, all of them are wh*res) and it all goes through the initial contact. This is what I do, I hope it helps you:

For first contact I just say "Hello, I think you are beautiful, I'd like to know more about you". The pros will immediately answer with a menu of services and prices.

To those who answer like not-a-seasoned-pro, I ask "What are you looking for in the App?" Amateurs, at least most of them, will be looking for a Sugar Daddy (which I have no intention to become), they will probably ask for something permanent or, maybe, some help to pay for their university or something like that, but some will directly ask for "apoyo economico" which translates as "economical support" but actually means sex for a fee on a date to date basis; and that doesn't always mean that she is a pro, maybe she just wants to try a few guys before settling on just one as her Sugar Daddy, or maybe she just wants to make some money that she needs urgently and doesn't plan to keep doing it for long (that plan never works). Be careful, some pros trying to look like amateurs will go that way too.

Then we go into what I am looking for in the App, and it is always "someone who enjoys having sex with me as much as I enjoy having sex with her" which leads to specifics. What I want, what I like, what is an absolute condition for me (like BBBJ, DFK etc.). Some girls, amateurs or pros, will simply refuse to some things and sometimes I accept the refusal "for the first date" letting her know that I'd really like her to consider doing that, eventually. And then we go into the details for the first date, basically how much does she expect to get for the date. An amateur will accept a sum for "the date" and agree to let the date find its own way, some will have a time restriction (because they need to get home at a certain time, or any other valid reason) but most will be flexible about that. A pro will already have an established price for a given time and / or a given number of pops and, of course, an established price for the extras (extra time, extra pops, anal, BBBJ, DATY, CIM, DFK, etc. Etc. Etc.). Any girl who asks for extra money for extra time or extra pops is a pro.

Of course, nothing of that is written on stone. Some amateurs may look like pros and some pros will succeed in looking like amateurs, but that's the way this game is played.

Good luck hunting!

J. J.[/QUOTE]Good tips J. J. And this is all on Glambu?

[QUOTE=JackJericho;2974376]Be careful, some pros trying to look like amateurs will go that way too.[/QUOTE]I had a chick come see me in Lince once for a normal date. When she got home she sent me a mesaage saying she would come back for sex for $200. I told her that if I was going to give someone that much then I would just have Jockey hook me up.

[QUOTE=Questner;2974649]Why do you say the cop may ask for a bribe? Have you witnessed municipal police taking bribes or have read about it?

Which time of the day or night is your experience around CC Risso and have you checked out other streets in Lince?

Which exactly hotels have you obtained short time rates from?[/QUOTE]The police are there to chase the girls off, not take bribes. In 20 years I have never had a policeman ask me for anything. Those girls are run by the mafia. They come about about 5:30-6 pm. A normal Venezuelan girl that I was dating told me a wild story about being kidnapped by some of those guys. Pretty much all the places in Lince have a short time rates. I want to say there are 12 and 24 hour rates. So it is more like half day or full day.