Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=DeepThoughts7;3035608]Hi, thank you for your detailed and insightful report. I like the details provided, and how honest you were in your experiences.

I have read in numerous postings and also seen YouTube videos about the rejection some men of color can face in Thailand. I want to state that I am not trying to start a debate on racism, in any way. My personal opinion is that a lady is absolutely free to choose who she will be with in an intimate setting, and some women are attracted to certain types. However, being treated differently in a shopping mall, restaurant or business setting is just wrong.

I do want to politely ask how you were treated in the soapy massage parlors? For example, if a non-Thai, non-Caucasian male went to higher end soapy massage like Tara, LaBelle, Addict massage, etc. Would he be treated well or would some ladies reject him also because of his background? When you walked past the massage parlors on some streets did the ladies call out "massage" to you or ignore you.

I appreciate your feedback and feedback.[/QUOTE]Racism = prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

Racism is a prevalent problem in Thailand, though it is infrequently discussed publicly and the country lacks specific legislation on racial discrimination. Discrimination manifests in various forms, including colorism, stereotypes against different ethnic groups and migrant workers, and institutional practices.

Such a great report At Your Cervix. Maybe not my place exactly but damn you make it a bit tempting. And great writing. Great humor. Just the whole package as far as FRs go. Thanks for dropping in!

[QUOTE=AtYourCervix;3035599]I'm not a two-week millionaire on a short-time Asian sex holiday. I'm simply a Western retiree with a modest pension who lives in the Philippines full time. I do not lack for local "options" but I like to sexplore in other places. I'm not poor and / or cheap, but need to feel I'm receiving fair value in exchange for the money spent. I'm a moderate drinker and voluminous talker. [/QUOTE]What a great report for this guy's first post here. Kudos for the description of an experience that's a bit off the beaten path, written with some style.

Few days ago I walked past Kasalong and Lolitas and decided to pick the only decent looking woman among them (at Kasalong).

The name is Bem or Pem or something very similar.

The service was really bad, with a very mechanical BJ without any kind of variation at all. Just up and down all the time (no eye contact, not deep, no lick, etc) and any attempt to direct her a bit was ignored. The only positive is that she didn't complain or changed anything even after almost 20 mins of doing it. But at that point I was bored and forced myself to cum in her mouth (which she took without running away at least).

[QUOTE=DonutRider;3035454]Five foot seven, brown skinned south Indian here. First solo international trip dedicated for mongering and chose Thailand for the sake of convenience. Only agenda is to fuck as much pussy as possible. Quite drinking and smoking recently, so no bar visits planned.

I dressed well, maintained my dignity, and was, in fact, extra polite in some situations. But I probably wouldn't return anytime soon. For the money I spent, I could easily fuck horny northeast Indian chics for 2 months straight. It was just for the experience.

Was it worth spending three times extra to visit a country where you risk facing racism? I would be happier sitting in Bangalore or Hyderabad exploring spas. YMMV. If you are fair-skinned, farang looking Indian who can behave decently, go for it. The vibe, the beauty, the laid back environment, it was all awesome!

Maybe I'll go to another Asian country that hasn't yet been infected by racism. Suggestions welcome, and happy fucking.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your such a detailed report. I find myself in same shoes as you as I plan my 2026 sex vacation. I am of Indian origin as well. Furthermore, I have never been out of the country, which for me is US not India. I moved to US from India as a teenager. As someone who lives in country primarily composed of people who don't belong to the same ethnic group as me, I am used to silent racism. I am glad that you had good time over there.

Seems like there is enough pussy out there in Thailand for everyone.

[QUOTE=AtYourCervix;3035599] But in-person recon indicated even the old hag beer bar gals are now asking B2,000 for offsite service, with most clubs tacking on up to a B500 bar fine. Conversations with freelancers on Suvhumvit Road and on Soi 4 indicate their asking prices vary between B2,000 to B3,000. Yes I could attempt to negotiate a cheaper price, but I've found that it often results in negatively affecting her attitude and performance in the room.[/QUOTE]Guys, don't get discouraged. Plenty of streetwalkers on Soi 4 still go for 1000-1500 baht, although if you ask (instead of offering), they'll say a larger amount. I've had a few decent ones in that range just a few months ago. Mostly non-Thais, but I've been quoted 1. 5 k by an ok looking Thai (slim, cute, about 30) just last week.

Negotiating them down doesn't affect performance. I had plenty of duds at high prices, in fact with some of them (especially Viets), if she can push up the price she is also likely to pull down the service, they enjoy being in control. Plenty of decent ones at bargain-basement 1000-1200 as well.

Way I see it, I'd rather negotiate the low rate, and then tip if they're nice, so I can sleep at night. You won't dazzle them by paying more, there's always an occasional sucker who goes for 4 k.

[QUOTE=AtYourCervix;3035599]I'm not a two-week millionaire on a short-time Asian sex holiday. I'm simply a Western retiree with a modest pension who lives in the Philippines full time. I do not lack for local "options" but I like to sexplore in other places. I'm not poor and / or cheap, but need to feel I'm receiving fair value in exchange for the money spent.

I'm a moderate drinker and voluminous talker, so I like the Sukhumvit Soi 7 outdoor beer pubs (replacements for the old Biergarten) and the handful of sudsy saloons in Patpong. Easy to find another foreigner to chat with, if that's your thing. A beer for me, a higher priced beer for a 35+ year / old lady, then we gab a lot and grab a little. B120 for a customer beer and B170 for a lady's beer. Repeat a couple of times, then I either negotiate for services or push on to greener pastures..[/QUOTE]Well done AYC. I don't suppose you saw any buxom MILFs there did ya?

[QUOTE=DonutRider;3035454]Five foot seven, brown skinned south Indian here. First solo international trip dedicated for mongering and chose Thailand for the sake of convenience. Only agenda is to fuck as much pussy as possible. Quite drinking and smoking recently, so no bar visits planned.

Day 1.

Landed in Suvarnabhumi, bus to Pattaya. Booked flipper house near the beach. Registered TF premium 3 weeks prior, but IMO its just a waste of time. I would maybe book them for right now, couple of hours later / tonight. Most of them won't even remember you for tomorrow.

Girl 1 TF. Did a rookie mistake not confirming her on video call, She arrived, pleasant lady but way bulkier than the pics. CBJ and vanilla sex - 2 k THB. She kept messaging me on whatsapp for next few days and gave me tips and suggestions on things!.[/QUOTE]I think you'd be hard pushed to name any virtually any Country anywhere that doesn't have levels of racism and prejudice. I certainty don't think Thailand is any worse than others.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;3035739]Guys, don't get discouraged. Plenty of streetwalkers on Soi 4 still go for 1000-1500 baht, although if you ask (instead of offering), they'll say a larger amount. I've had a few decent ones in that range just a few months ago. Mostly non-Thais, but I've been quoted 1. 5 k by an ok looking Thai (slim, cute, about 30) just last week.
[/QUOTE]Yeah. I had one quoted me 3000 baht initially then dropped it to 2000 baht then to 1500 baht for a final offer when I signaled I wasn't interested. This was around Sukhumvit road and Soi 7. She was pretty decent looking as well. Didn't bite as I went with someone else near the Nana plaza instead.

[QUOTE=AtYourCervix;3035599]I'm not a two-week millionaire on a short-time Asian sex holiday. I'm simply a Western retiree with a modest pension who lives in the Philippines full time. I do not lack for local "options" but I like to sexplore in other places. I'm not poor and / or cheap, but need to feel I'm receiving fair value in exchange for the money spent.

I'm a moderate drinker and voluminous talker, so I like the Sukhumvit Soi 7 outdoor beer pubs (replacements for the old Biergarten) and the handful of sudsy saloons in Patpong. Easy to find another foreigner to chat with, if that's your thing.

She grabs her drink, then she grabs your dink. Not as easy to find in Bangkok as you might think.

I like the natural progression from sober to buzzed to super horny to blowing my wad, all while sitting in the same chair.

Chubbo rose out of her chair and asked "Beer and blow job, sir"? Hard to pass that offer, so I chose the thin one and we went inside.

Interestingly, she closed the small curtain hanging above the front door before we sat down. Was she afraid a tall basketball player might peek in at us?

My eyes met those of the similarly-aged customer sitting at the table closest to the door as I exited. He knowingly smiled and I gave him a thumbs-up. Walk of shame? Nah, more like a walk of satisfaction.

Seamless transition from beer swilling to cum swilling. Pointing and shooting in its simplest form.
.[/QUOTE]Truly one of the most entertaining reports I've ever read on ISG. And I probably (as you predicted) would not stop at this bar, but I couldn't stop reading this superb post. Thank you.

[QUOTE=DonutRider;3035454]Five foot seven, brown skinned south Indian here. First solo international trip dedicated for mongering and chose Thailand for the sake of convenience. Only agenda is to fuck as much pussy as possible. Quite drinking and smoking recently, so no bar visits planned.
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Maybe I'll go to another Asian country that hasn't yet been infected by racism. Suggestions welcome, and happy fucking.[/QUOTE]Or may I suggest that whatever country, or part of a country that you decide to go too, that you get off the beaten track that your countries kindred follow and flock too.

In Thailand, don't go to Pattaya, don't go to Sukhumvit, don't go to Patong, seek out less visited areas of those cities, like Jomtien, like Patpong, like Rawai / Kamala.

Or even complete other locations less likely affected and shaped by personal adverse experiences and characterization, like Hua Hin, Chang Mai, Samui, etc.

Where your presentation, behavior during interactions, and importantly your frequency and generosity when opening your wallet count for far more than the racial based stereotype and fear factor.

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Racism is a prevalent problem in Thailand, though it is infrequently discussed publicly and the country lacks specific legislation on racial discrimination.[/QUOTE]The problem with racism is that a lot of people use it as an excuse to cover up their own shortcomings. Say you're a working girl and have 2 choices:

1) Asian man treats you with respect and pays you well, or.

2) Indian man treats you like dirt and wants to haggle about the price of everything.

Then it wouldn't be a surprise if the girl went with the Asian man (it's not racism, it's just common sense). I visit Bangkok a couple of times a year and I've seen too many Indian cheap charlies to have sympathy for them. I'm certain that there are lots of decent Indians out there, but I'm afraid they all get tarred with the same brush.

Still having a hard time landing anyone on ThaiFriendly, or Seeking, and wondering if it's my beard. Or maybe it's how I reach out to the girls? I use the same script as in Europe and LatAm, which usually gets to the money discussion in 2-3 steps. On ThaiFriendly, the girls aren't even reading my messages (and it's so hard to find any that are actually hot). On Seeking, same issue finding actually hot girls, and I'm getting numbers but there's no engagement after the messaging part. Is it just because there's too many guys here, or is it my beard?

Beard wasn't a problem when I went out to the gogos last night for the first time. Tons of women grabbing me, trying to get me into their club. Freelancers outside Nana too. Some of the girls outside Nana were actually hotter than the girls inside. And Billboard, despite everyone talking about how great it is, not a single girl caught my attention from 8-9 pm on a Monday. I was in there for a solid 50 minutes. Going to try again tomorrow, but main takeaways from that first evening are (1) Thai girls look weird, their body shapes are weird, faces are weird and (2) it's better to walk around Nana and outside Nana to find what you like. There were a bunch more bars inside Nana that seemed more promising than Billboard, but still really hard to find hot girls when compared to European or LatAm visual standards.

Initial impression is that Bangkok is best for low optics expectations, low prices and more pros than civilians. At least this time of year.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;3035789]Or may I suggest that whatever country, or part of a country that you decide to go too, that you get off the beaten track that your countries kindred follow and flock too.

Where your presentation, behavior during interactions, and importantly your frequency and generosity when opening your wallet count for far more than the racial based stereotype and fear factor.[/QUOTE]Sage advice TGT. As a yank, I've seen hood rats and crackers ruin some good mongering locations; Costa Rica, Medellin, Rio, the DR. Follow the airlines then change locations. When Spirit, Frontier, Ryan and other discount carriers start flying to hobby destinations, low class riff raff soon follows and ruins it for others.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3035861]Still having a hard time landing anyone on ThaiFriendly,........ but main takeaways from that first evening are (1) Thai girls look weird, their body shapes are weird, faces are weird and (2) it's better to walk around Nana and outside Nana to find what you like. There were a bunch more bars inside Nana that seemed more promising than Billboard, but still really hard to find hot girls when compared to European or LatAm visual standards.

Initial impression is that Bangkok is best for low optics expectations, low prices and more pros than civilians. At least this time of year.[/QUOTE]"Thai girls look weird". Wow. Well! Probably the best advice is if you pack your bag, get a BOLT to the airport and get the first plane out.