Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3035861]Still having a hard time landing anyone on ThaiFriendly, or Seeking, and wondering if it's my beard. Or maybe it's how I reach out to the girls? I use the same script as in Europe and LatAm, which usually gets to the money discussion in 2-3 steps. On ThaiFriendly, the girls aren't even reading my messages (and it's so hard to find any that are actually hot). On Seeking, same issue finding actually hot girls, and I'm getting numbers but there's no engagement after the messaging part. Is it just because there's too many guys here, or is it my beard?[/QUOTE]Are you only contacting the hottest girls on Thai Friendly? (I don't have any experience with Seeking). If so, they literally get hundreds of messages, day in day out, so it's not that easy to get their attention.
It might help to send them a message when they are online NOW, or when they were online only a few minutes ago. These girls live in the moment, and don't want to go through hundreds of messages to find a bloke they like.

[QUOTE=PgReal;3036051]I'd disagree.

If he has been in BKK for say a week, he should have at least 50 likes / visits / messages from FL's and about 100 more from ten tonne tessie old hags from the Countryside begging for marriage.[/QUOTE]The problem with TF is that you can set preferences but cannot force anyone to respect them. So when you say you are looking for girls from Bangkok under the age of 30 expect to be contacted by a tidal wave of 50 year olds from Chaing Mai, Surat Thani and the like.

I think the way you have split the contacts is a bit inaccurate. More likely 1 stunner, 9 freelancers and 140 less than desirables.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3035861]Still having a hard time landing anyone on ThaiFriendly, or Seeking, and wondering if it's my beard. .... There were a bunch more bars inside Nana that seemed more promising than Billboard, but still really hard to find hot girls when compared to European or LatAm visual standards.

Initial impression is that Bangkok is best for low optics expectations, low prices and more pros than civilians.[/QUOTE]TF,

If you're looking for ladies who look like Thai beauty queens, they won't be found at Nana. Black Caviar and Maria's can have great optics starting at 10 k thb and going up to 30 k thb, so 400-1000 usd. If I'm not mistaken, Black Caviar girls are freelancers and set their own price.

Seeking isn't active in Thailand.

ThaiFriendly in BKK is a dating app not a p4 p app, so girls are there looking for unpaid hookups and boyfriends and it's based on your looks, like Tinder. In Pattaya ThaiFriendly is a p4 p app.

With many hot p4 p Thai girls, your own looks could matter. Some girls only go with East Asian guys or reject guys they don't find attractive etc.

Rather than going the usual places discussed here I decided to branch out a bit and TOFTT if necessary. I looked on Google for erotic massage and managed to run across Fin69 that had 73 five star reviews and nothing even remotely bad mentioned. I am smart enough to discount single entry fake reviews and this is not that. So I thought I'the give it a whirl. And WOW. True Japanese style Nuru from start to finish, including attentive bath prep and wind down. I've never had anything close outside Japan.

Most Nuru here is fake. Not real Nuru gel. And / or not much of it. Your not suppose to have a squeeze bottle. You're suppose to have a small bucketful and they did at Fin69. I had Ivy for 3500 for an hour in the VIP room. That too is worth the upgrade. Most spas in this price range have a tiny mattress you barely fit on and don't have a dedicated wet space. Fin69 has the correct setup in their VIP rooms.

Ivy is a bit GND with her braces and all but her service is TOPs. Full Japanese service from start to stop. You will feel like a king. And what a cute and bubbly personality including pretty good English and Chinese (she said most of their customers are Chinese — which makes sense cuz they know real Nuru.) Def high recommend.

Plus bonus points - its on the same street as Nana Plaza. Maybe 10 minutes walk off the main drag.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;3036181]The problem with TF is that you can set preferences but cannot force anyone to respect them. So when you say you are looking for girls from Bangkok under the age of 30 expect to be contacted by a tidal wave of 50 year olds from Chaing Mai, Surat Thani and the like.[/QUOTE]If you have a premium account, you can specify in the settings that you only want to be contacted by girls in your preferred age.
I recently found out about this setting. I think it's new, unless I have always overlooked it.

[QUOTE=YourGuy;3036137]Can anybody explain the charges in Aries. What are these tiers, are these types of masseuse or something else. As basically duration is same for every tier. I see no difference.

Asked them and they said "only difference is customer popularity. ".

TIA.[/QUOTE]They answered your question, truthfully. The tip-top includes their queen size room which otherwise is 300 baht extra. Otherwise the system is pure capitalism. Supply and demand.

One of the reasons Aries is one of the very best places in town (and most expensive) is how well it's run. They normally ask you as you leave to fill out a customer satisfaction survey. The better the girls perform in this combined with how much they are in demand sets the price.

Some of the performers are fully booked several days in advance. That's why the can get paid more than someone who isn't as popular.

Can you find a star there who isn't top tier? 100 percent. One of my favorites there is Hikaru and 'only' premium which means 1500 baht cheaper than the top tier.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3036189]If you have a premium account, you can specify in the settings that you only want to be contacted by girls in your preferred age.
I recently found out about this setting. I think it's new, unless I have always overlooked it.[/QUOTE]I always take out a premium account when in town, but have never seen that option before. Should be back in town next months so hopefully will be able to try it out.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3035861]Still having a hard time landing anyone on ThaiFriendly, or Seeking, and wondering if it's my beard.

Initial impression is that Bangkok is best for low optics expectations, low prices and more pros than civilians. At least this time of year.[/QUOTE]Hey TedFerguson,

If you're not having any luck with Thai Friendly or the Gogos/Bars/Clubs scene in Nana, have you considered trying out Thermae on Sukhumvit Road/Soi 15? Lots of freelancers there and some of them are reasonably good looking. Maybe one or two stunners on a good night. You could develop a relationship with them after an initial ST or LT encounter.

If you need to let off some steam, try Princess or Queen's Massage near Soi 33 and Sukhumvit Road. Also try your luck on T Ded 99 in the Phaya Thai district. There could be a couple of gems there too.

Howie.

It's been getting slightly better (the city is way more of an adjustment than what I'm used to in Europe or the Americas). As Steve mentioned, we hit the gogos and did it properly this time, checking out each and every one for a few seconds before sitting. There were a few good looking girls, but, as a previous poster said, you really have to dig for them. Red Dragon stood out because it was fully staffed early in the night and I'm an early sleeper.

ThaiFriendly also got better. I landed an English speaking college girl who's finishing up her studies and going back to her hometown next week. Great conversation, Thai culture is truly unique in the world. But otherwise visually unimpressive. Most surprising was that the sex as well was mediocre and a bit staged despite the solid conversation and warmup. We did however talk about the water hose attached to the toilet, which is apparently the best way to clean up and toilet paper should only be used to dry (news for me).

Anyhow, my impression remains that finding any kind of connection here is unlikely. And that's unlikely in most Asian countries, for cultural reasons. The cultural homogeneity and racial differences lead people to see themselves as "different" from caucasians. It takes more education and world experience to realize that we're all the same. The one exception in the area (I hope) might be the Philippines, which will be my next destination. I'm betting the overwhelming friendliness of the people there, the Spanish and American influences, will make it easier to find non-transactional experiences in the Asian world.

I appreciate the suggestions and help from you guys. It's been very helpful. Thank you.

So after my fun but somewhat mediocre sex night right after I landed, the next 48 hours were top notch. Here's how my first full day went down.

Started the day with a one hour foot massage for a whopping $10 USD. So good! And a foot massage here is not just feet. You get solid calf and some thigh work and about ten minutes at the end of neck and shoulders. And then onto the debauchery.

Someone had recently posted about 10 Ten massage which used to be called 7 Seven massage (and still on Google as that) so I decided to check it out, especially since it's close to my hotel. They have a good Line presence (WhatsApp for Asia) and post the girls and pricing there.

The shop itself is not really as nice as the Google pics. Def a bit more run down and cramped. That said, I had a GREAT time. They show you the girls on an iPad and the good thing about that is it lists natural or fake tits and more importantly extra services! Like some girls do CIM for 300 baht. And one girl does bareback and CIP for 1000 baht more!

In addition to the iPad, he pulled all the girls for a lineup. I chose Daw who is super cute with natural tits and CIM available. It was 3500 for a 90 minute Nuru for any of them.

The rooms upstairs are a bit dingy and tiny. Only room for a twin size Nuru mattress. This is typical at this price point, but lame compared to Fin69 see recent report. The shower water never got hot so that wasn't awesome either.

All that said, I had an AMAZING time with Daw. The massage itself started like all Nuru with you on your stomach. And the Nuru to start was very lame. Not enough Nuru gel and none on the mat to grind your dick against. But when she got to the part where she spreads your legs and slides her hand under and is getting sloppy with your asshole, taint and balls it starts getting good. Very good.

That part is really good but the flip is even better. After the flip, she is doing the full body slide with those natural tits but most amazing is that she is sliding my dick near her pussy almost like sumata and it seems always about to slip inside. It is so sexy that I threaten to blow my load right there, 20 minutes in! I have to lift her off me to prevent an early exit!!

We get back to the slip and slide and do some quite good BJ as well mixed in with slippery hand on balls work. Nice! But now it's time to transition to the bed.

On the bed the fucking is great. Doggie and mish are both great. But no the Steve because the bed is too low. I am doing so much bareback these days that I'm not going to get a shot off in the condom. So after prob 20 minutes of fucking, I ask her to move back to the mat. I also tell her that I want to CIM and she says fine but doesn't mention the upcharge. We do more body slide and that skin to dick slide is soooo good.

Still not going to get there having fucked less than 12 hours ago, so I put her back on BJ. Her BJ is solid. The integration of slippery hand and solid shaft work is working and I blast a load CIM. Lovely.

We clean up and I give her 500 baht and she is very surprised. Of course the 300 baht is for the CIM, per her profile, but I guess she forgot and wasn't going to charge me. Awww. Love that. I say it's for the CIM and she is thrilled. I love that $15 USD can make a girls day here!

So a solid recommend on 10 Ten massage and Daw. But having gone to Fin69 the next day, I would recommend it more highly.

The day kinda flies by when you start at 10 and get a foot massage and a fuck. And before long I'm having dinner with Ted Ferguson! Really nice guy and easy company. We have some Michelin starred Thai and it's lovely. And then of course it's time for Nana Plaza!

See the post below called "Quick Update" for the summary of the gogos Ted and I hit. At some point I wore Ted out and he rocked on while I continued the pursuit of pussy! I just love the gogos to an unhealthy degree 😝.

I actually make a great find later that night. When you are at Red Dragon and you come out there are alot of pretty girls in sparkling uniforms. I was wondering what they are doing there and for what club. It turns out they are the eye candy for Mandarin.

Once you go into Mandarin, they take you upstairs. And here is the surprise. There are fifteen girls in a big tub and they are FULLY NUDE. Pussy waving out free and clear. No suds no nothing! It's totally unique in Nana.

I just sit and watch the spectacle. After maybe 20 minutes there is a shift change and the girls who are sitting around the club in black dresses all shed their dress and get in the tub. And the tub girls all pull on a single piece black dress, no panties.

The girls who exited the tub all cruise the club looking for takers. I actually have a Teams meeting at 11 PM, so I am not inclined to grab a girl right now. But when a cute one comes by and is quite persistent in a nice way I tell her to sit.

She lights up like fireworks and sits on my lap. She's very bubbly and light grinding and of course asks for a drink. I never begrudge a pretty lady a $6 drink so grab her one and she gets a whole lot friendlier physically.

Next thing I know she hikes up her dress and starts grinding her bare pussy on me, beautiful ass exposed. I grab her hips and grind back. Niceee! Well it gets better. She then pulls down her top to expose a nice pair of soft Bee cups. And puts my hands on them.

Like most girls, she loves the circular motion and reminds me from time to time by driving my hands in circles. Basically a fully nude lap dance with a bit of cloth around her waist! I reward her with a second drink tho she isn't pushy about it. But then I got to go to my meeting, else I woulda bar fined her.

I'm able to wrap my meeting in a half hour and head back to Nana. I am thinking I am going to bar fine the Mandarin hottie but don't want to short change the Nana experience. So I poke around a bit before settling into Billboard prob my favorite club for hanging out.

It is absolutely packed at midnight. The waitress seats me at the rotating stage which I actually love. Yes I get a crick in my neck looking up at the girls. So worth it. There are 25 girls packed on there and all pretty in their own way. The parade of camel toe and stripper heels is just amazing. The inventor of the rotating stage deserves a fucking medal. It should be required at all gogos. A new Thai law!

After maybe 30 minutes of ogling, a stone cold hottie joins the stage. Huge eyes and thick lips. Slim and toned abs and bringing some real heat beyond the Bangkok shuffle. I let her go around a couple times to check the entire package. But she's great in eye contact with me and other guys and I know she's going to get pulled soon, so I pull her.

Very sexy and good chemistry and good English. But when I go to bar fine her, I tell the mama that I will pay the bar fine now but pay the girl after. But the girl is having none of that and turns into an ice cold *****, like a switch was flipped. We argue a bit but neither is budging so she stomps off. Boo. But prob dodged a bullet.

But the gods smile upon me for my professional girl-enthusiast discussion with the hottie and sticking to my guns. I pay my bill and go to leave but the central aisle is blocked, so I detour by the soapy tub and BAM I am struck by lightning. A petite hottie with an electric smile, perfect AB naturals and some banging dance moves catches my eye. Wow.

Well I'm not going to let her get away, so I call her down right away. And get her a drink. She's bubbly and fun. It's not super handsy but has my arms wrapped around her. Such a sweet pixie!

I decide I don't want to kill the vibe so rather than having the money-after discussion I decide to pay up front if she answers my question right. So I key in that I want to take it slow like BFGF and kissing and no condom for BJ. She clarifies condom for sex but otherwise nods enthusiastically and is thrilled I'm going to bar fine her. Oddly bar fine for first girl was going to be 1000 and this girl 700. Plus 4000 to the girl.

The in room experience was super with her very submissive and willing to please. After some very solid BJ I decide to DATY her like a real BF. Super clean and lovely and the tiniest little pussy on the planet. And it's super satisfying. I work her tits first then tease the fuck out of her licking and kissing my way down and around her pussy but not diving in. Eventually I do dive in and she is sloppy wet from the lead up.

Now I know she's a pro and therefore going to be a challenge but I am up for it. She starts out a bit indifferent. Maybe ten minutes of eyes closed but not much response. But then I can tell I've got her when she starts working her tits and tweaking the nipples. Then starts to grind and moan. It's a labor of love maybe 20 minutes but she has a crashing O, with her knees flying up around her ears and bucking like a bronco.

Well this obviously broke the ice because she's super service oriented from there out. Some amazing fucking in all the positions. Such a petite girl I actually bottom out in mish and she cries out. First time ever! But doggie and the Steve both let me go balls deep without hurting her. Really good. A lot more BJ. And a final lovely shot with her on BLS.

As we wrap I ask for a pic as I do with all my girls but she says she would rather not, as her family and friends don't know she does this. Fair enough but I tell it's just for me and says ok and a get a pic of her thousand watt smile before she bids me adieu. Wow. Great time. What an amazing pixie hottie. Thailand rules!

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;3036237]I always take out a premium account when in town, but have never seen that option before. Should be back in town next months so hopefully will be able to try it out.[/QUOTE]It's part of the privacy options.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3036279]
Anyhow, my impression remains that finding any kind of connection here is unlikely. And that's unlikely in most Asian countries, for cultural reasons. The cultural homogeneity and racial differences lead people to see themselves as "different" from caucasians. It takes more education and world experience to realize that we're all the same. The one exception in the area (I hope) might be the Philippines, which will be my next destination. I'm betting the overwhelming friendliness of the people there, the Spanish and American influences, will make it easier to find non-transactional experiences in the Asian world.[/QUOTE]The Philippines might be less 'Asian' than Thailand, but I think you will be disappointed by the looks of the average Filipina. Thai girls are better looking, generally speaking. IMHO anyway.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3036279]I
Anyhow, my impression remains that finding any kind of connection here is unlikely. And that's unlikely in most Asian countries, for cultural reasons. The cultural homogeneity and racial differences lead people to see themselves as "different" from caucasians. It takes more education and world experience to realize that we're all the same. The one exception in the area (I hope) might be the Philippines, which will be my next destination. I'm betting the overwhelming friendliness of the people there, the Spanish and American influences, will make it easier to find non-transactional experiences in the Asian world.

I appreciate the suggestions and help from you guys. It's been very helpful. Thank you.[/QUOTE]The Filipinos are polynesian with some East Asian influence to go along with the Spanish and American influence. I recently laughed at a Chinese friend of mine who is in South America working in Guyana. She said the longer she stays the less she likes the locals. She complained that they are always trying to cheat her or steal from her. I laughed and told her welcome to the world where the locals view you as having an endless supply of money.

So today my night is even more fucked for meetings than last night. I have a Teams call from 9:30 to 1:30. Yep. Pretty much my entire night. That sucks and I need a plan to work around this.

I am thinking easiest route is to just do one shot during the day. And the place for this is massage. As per my prior post, Daw at 10 Ten was great but the facility and Nuru quality not so much. Of course there are the high end soapies. But at 8000 Baht and up just not sure it's worth it. I've been to Mango at 3000 and liked it but same cramped rooms as 10 Ten. Hmmm.

So meticulous researcher that I am I whip out google maps and search for Erotic massage. Interestingly this turns up several that aren't on the forum. But the one that stands out is Fin69, down the street from Nana Plaza.

Fin69 has over 70 five star reviews and nothing below that. No negative comments at all. Not even a four star review. All five stars. What? That never happens. So I read the reviews and look for all those fake one-review platitudes but they aren't there. These reviews are legit so I figure I'll give it a go.

Like many of the massage places they have a strong Line presence. Automatically spits back pricing and the girls in house at the moment. I decide I like Ivy and end up booking her, though only 15 minutes in advance.

She's a tad less pretty than the pics, including braces which aren't in the pic. Of course braces have that schoolgirl charm as well. And she exudes youthful enthusiasm from the opening bell to the finish line and beyond.

I choose the VIP room because in the pics it's clear that it has a jacuzzi tub and enough space for a queen blowup bed for Nuru. This is a great call for an extra 500 baht and makes the full Nuru experience possible.

We start in the wet area where Ivy gives amazing Japan-worthy bath prep. Using the handheld wand and her hands and lots of soap she lathers and rinses every square inch. It's very subservient and you feel like a king. She even dries me off, not letting me lift a finger.

Again, clearly knowing a professional Nuru experience, she starts the tub, allowing it to fill throughout our session. And she prepares a large vat of Nuru gel and gets the mat out. Now that's more like it!

If you aren't familiar with Nuru it's the most amazing stuff. It's made from seaweed and is therefore completely edible. It's slippery as fuck and doesn't lose its slide like oil, silicone and lube do. It's just ridiculously slick and lasting. And it rinses off clean unlike lube or oil. Pure magic. Leave it to the Japanese.

She starts me on my back so she can lube up my front with gel. Then puts me on my front and her sliding on my back. She's clearly been trained in this because she pulls all the tricks the Japanese girls do. Like she rides the backside of your leg facing your feet. This sounds not very sensual but here's the kicker. Her foot keeps sliding up under you and gets a great stroke along your dick with every slide. It's a super pro move and feels great.

She also slides her tits all over the bottom of my feet, which I don't recall as being standard and it is surprisingly erotic. So much so that by the time the flip comes I'm hard as a brick!

Of course post flip is amazing with her sliding body to body. We don't actually get as much good sumata as Daw but it's still very nice.

This is followed by grabbing the condom and fucking cowgirl. And I will say here they missed a play from the Japanese playbook. Last time I had Nuru in Japan when it was time to fuck on the mat they put a towel under me for friction of being able to drive in and out. Lacking that we had some trouble really getting the fucking solid on the mat. So I dispense with that and move back to BJ.

Her BJ is excellent and lots of integrated ball work (I've never understood why most girls don't work your balls while they suck. It's just the best.) Her ass is fabulous and she has it facing me while she blows me. I'm fingering her pussy and it's a sloppy fucking mess which really gets me off. Eventually I shoot my shot and it feels great.

There is great wind down here as well. First tub-soaking together in the bubble bath. She does some shoulder massage in the tub and then the full rinsing and drying ritual. She even takes me all the way to the lobby and helps me with my socks and shoes. Ivy is a fucking gem! 100% Japanese Nuru quality from a thai girl. Who knew? High recommend on Fin69.

I have a nice dinner with a friend of a friend and then my fucking ridiculous unmissable four hour meeting. As it drones on I am thinking about how sleepy I am and just going to bed is the wise thing. Of course I don't do that!

When we wrap I head over to Soi 7 Alley hoping Wood Bar stays open but alas it's closed. But quite a few of the pool bars are rocking. I end up at Magic Table which has three tables and a few milfy gals. Nothing to write home about but presuming they know their way around a dick at this point.

Play some pool with the most attractive one and I am horrible. Probably not drunk enough. We play five amiable games and I finally win one as it's nearing three. I key in to ask her about a blowjob in the back room and she is down so off we go.

Def not the best I've had and she has a stack of individual wet wipes 6" tall. Mercifully after an initial inspection and a couple wipes she's not like getting them out every five minutes. For an experienced girl I'm surprised her BJ is a bit toothy but somehow we wank one out after 20+ minutes. She put in the work. And nice to get a second shot that day when I thought the meeting would totally fuck that. Didn't have the energy to fuck but the BJ was the perfect thing.

And so wraps the second full day of my trip with five girls in the rearview.

P.S. They say Jakarta is the new Bangkok as far as fucking girls on the cheap. I def find it quite compelling. Bop over to the Jakarta thread if you want to follow me there. $22 to fuck a hottie in a nice club atmosphere (and maybe a tip for bareback). And the pumping vibe with over a hundred girls just a laser away is just WOW. Id say yes, worth exploring!
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta

I am going to Bangkok and thank you very much for all the helpful posts. I am interested to hit one the clubs like levels，insanity， mixx etc.

I want to have some fun there first drinking and enjoying the music and also trying to find a freelancer. I did see some older reports but not much recently. Is it worth it to go? I have nana on my list and also a nuru place but want something else on the weekend. Will probably hit la belle first and then late in the evening one of the clubs.

Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks.