Bangkok Reports

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Have a completed Thailand Digital Arrival Card, submitted, [B]BEFORE[/B] you arrive (earliest to submit: 3 days before arrival).

[URL]https://tdac.immigration.go.th/arrival-card/#/home[/URL]

It's just the electronic version of that paper arrival card we (I say mature, you say old) remember, the one that the cabin crew passed out on the plane, you filled out before landing on the fold-down table, surrounded by fellow passengers asking if they could borrow your pen, and there was always one who wanted to borrow your pen, your hand, your brain, because he just didn't understand what was required and wanted you to fill it out for him.

Arriving [I]Swampy[/I], late evening, you know where the two arms of the airport meet at the center, the slight ramp up to the immigration booths. Well now, there's a LARGE sign hung from the rafters, [I]"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here"[/I]. No, wait. DAMN AI translation APP. That's actually something along the lines of "Completed Digital Arrival Cards Required Past This Point". There's also floor signs with the same message, specifying what you need: (1) Passport, (2) Digital Arrival Card, (3) Arrival boarding card, (4) IF applicable, E-visa. Couple of airport staff (to answer questions?), no enforcement being applied, and a LOT of befuddled people staring up at the sign, down at their empty hands, back at the sign, back at their empty hands (along the lines of Alice's Restaurant).

And getting through that crowd bottleneck was the only problem I had as I had gotten the memo. Up the ramp, joined a short queue in front of a booth (lines no doubt shortened due to the previously mentioned bottleneck), hoping to pick a "good" line. Myself... well, in the line I chose, there always seems to be one. Held up at the booth, a lengthy discussion, seemed to have the correct papers, but, another officer called, the person led away back through the waiting lines, off somewhere.

Still a shorter wait from previous visits. Handed over the paperwork, fingerprints, photo, passport stamped, DAC initialed, done. Even though my checked bags were priority tagged, some of the first off the plane, I still beat them to the baggage carousel. Collected and out the door into the night (which reminded me of opening that preheated oven's door... the shock of the heat and humidity).

Because... they are traditions. Next day, early afternoon, a visit to MTW (and YES, I do fly half-way around the world to visit such a place.) A bit jet-lagged, more so the oppressive heat and humidity (rainy season not finished), walking down Patpong Soi 2, looking up, spy the Meet The World painted window sign. Up the stairs, left turn, lady sitting out front... and I'm a bit lost as I've lost sight of said sign. The lady is saying this is the place, but, at my age, I have MY landmarks, reference points, and I'm not seeing it. Down at that end of the soi, I don't want to walk into the wrong bar; nothing wrong with that lifestyle, just NOT mine. The haze clears, focus regained, and I'm in through the open door, lady following.

Inside, the "good" heavyset mamasan welcomes me back (no BS, she making reference to a mutual friend), the outside lady, now inside, IMMEDIATLY moving to "battle stations": door locked, curtains drawn, lights dimmed... I AM remembered. I pull up a bar stool, order a Singha, and proceed with a price check. Lady drink? [i]200 baht[/i]. What happened to 150? [i]OK, 150.[/i] BJ? [i]1000[/i]. I don't bother with following the litany (What happened to 800? [i]OK,...[/i]) I make the mental adjustment: the price now INCLUDES the tip. Asked to pick the music I'd like, I go with hard rock 70's-90's. Large fan turned on; great. A/C turned on... oops... given my shirt was drenched with sweat, basic physics says arctic freezer, so I ask the a/c be turned off; just the fan; perfect, cooling, not chilling.

Before arriving, I'd already decided to forgo the rugby scrum (I say jet-lag, heat, but honestly, age has certainly crept in, influencing the decision). But fate seemed to have its own ideas - seemed there would be a rugby scrum, a scrum of 1, as there was only 1 lady working at that time. Fine, a [i]scrum[/i] it would be.

I enjoy the ambiance (yes, ambiance: long, cool, dark bar; cold beer in hand; tunes I like playing; staff being [i]attentive[/i]...). Lady drinks bought, catch up with the news from the mamasan. She excuses herself to finish some paperwork, I adjourn to the bench seat across the aisle... and get down to [i]business[/i]...

Tradition complete, ask for the bill, I check, but unlike skinny granny, no need for any adjustments - what I like about the heavyset mamasan.

And on to the next tradition. Walk over to Dunkin Donuts. YES, I fly halfway around the world to have some Dunkin donuts in Thailand (preference Chocolate Bavarian to go with my spicy Thai breakfast omelette, coffee). Another one of those things I indulge in while in-country that I pass on at home. I look for any "sale" sign. Takes me a bit of eye searching as I'm standing at the counter, but then I spot what I'm looking for: Dozen for 199. Great. Select the 12 (I take the 6 remaining Bavarians, plus a mix of others). Bill rung - 192 (TIT).

One last tradition. On the RTB, stop off at the rehydration station, Foodland's lunch counter. Several cooks and the cashier recognize me even after a year. Like Cheers, my drink of choice is delivered without having to say anything.

Traditions.

BTW: SOL permanently boarded up. Last year, plywood hung; this year, more like SEALED. RIP.

PS: needed some antibiotics for a bacterial infection. Stopped in at Sukhumvit's Southeast Pharmacy, between soi 13-15, basically next door to Thermae. Been using them for decades. Nice thing about a [i]civilized[/i] country like Thailand - non-narcotic pharmaceuticals don't require a prescription/script. Had the US name prescribed by my doctor; they found the equivalent, cheap.

Hi guys, thought I'd give an update on my ThaiFriendly activities for this trip. I've used it the past couple of trips to BKK and it seemed to work pretty well, scoring a "very good" or "excellent" rating for all 8 TF girls I saw previously. This time, though, I got many fewer hits on my initial filtered queries (age 18-29, petite height and weight) - sent out about 50 messages (not a problem, because I just cut and paste the same initial message out) and only got 7 replies that I converted to Line chats. Two were immediate no-go's. One asked for 5 K and wouldn't budge, the other said her usual rate was 10 K! Of the other 5, two stopped replying to messages and one was out of town, leaving only two TF girls for me to try.

Gale was a pretty, friendly girl who looked like her photos, although her tits were smaller than I like. She gave very good service, did an excellent BBBJ, and was accommodating to what I like, including sensual DFK. Rated her as 'very good' or B+. Lita was older than her photos, probably into her 30's and had terrible enhanced lips (why do girls do that, it's never attractive). I always ask for a selfie to see what they'll be dressed as and she sent hers with phone covering her face, which should have been a red flag. Anyway, she was friendly enough but then didn't kiss or do anything sensually. Her BBBJ was above average, though, so that earned her a C+ 'okay' rating. They were both 3 K without much negotiation.

So, this time I had fewer ratio of responses and didn't match my great hit rate from previous trips. Still, at 9/10 very good or better and 1/10 okay, that's a better ratio than my past experiences pulling girls from Thermae (5/8 very good or better, 1/8 okay, and 2/8 terrible) for the same price point.

Arrived in Bangkok Thursday afternoon after a 30-hour trip from my home (shuttle to LAX, checkin, wait, flight to Seoul, wait, flight to Bangkok, immigration, train into town). It is a long and tiring journey since I sleep little on flights. Nevertheless, I am back in the Kingdom for my 13th winter. As has been said, do your TDAC before you leave. I also printed mine, but the immigration officer already had it in their system when she scanned my passport. (They also see the history of your previous visits. I said I had been to the Kingdom many times, and she replied, "I see that. ") The only challenge was that the main immigration area had just closed, and we were directed to another area about 60-80 meters farther down the long hallway. It was crowded and the lines there moved slowly. Overall, a smooth process.

After checking into my hotel, my first stop, like the last three years, was to Sakura Akasari on Thong Lor for the 100-minute sea-salt body scrub, salt tapping, and massage. Always feel so clean and refreshed after. They have new owners who are doing a good bit of remodeling, so there was construction everywhere on the first floor. When I looked in the window, I thought they might be closed, but they are open and we worked around the construction. I chose the oldest lady there, a 32-year-old whose name I have already forgotten. In past years, the ladies there want 1000 baht just to take their top off while finishing the session with a handjob. I always declined, seemed too expensive. This lady did a good bit of teasing throughout the process, and when she asked 1000 baht I thought why not and agreed. She took everything off, and during the soapy massage part towards the end (different than in past years), she started doing body slides, and encouraged mutual touch. It got fairly aggressively erotic, and I was fingering her while getting a HJ interspersed with more slides. Good fun for all.

Love the salt scrub, tapping, and massage, so I'll continue to go there when I first arrive in BKK. It is a little bit of heaven.

Had dinner, went back to my room, planning to rest a bit and head out to Madame Claude's. Having just finished the long trip from southern California, I fell asleep and woke in the middle of the night. Saturday is for sighseeing, then I'll see about returning to Madame Claude's and / or checking out the scene at Patpong since I have never been there. Then it is a return to Chiang Mai.

I travel the world and like new experiences, so last night I thought I'd try a couple of things I've never done in BKK before. Pull a FL from the street and visit a BJ bar. I wasn't sure about the BJ bars from the reports, but they greatly exceeded my expectations! I started by walking the circuit a couple of times at 9 pm between Kasalong, Lolitas and Wood Bar. The girls were all sitting in front of the bars and the reports were right about the quality of girls. Pretty low: Wood Bar had only under 5's, Lolitas maybe had a couple doable, and the slimmest, best looking girl (still only a 6) was at Kasalong, so I started with her.

800 THB to the reception girl gets you a small room upstairs with a small couch. The slim girl washed my privates in the sink and toweled them, then got between my knees on the couch and went to work. There is something deliciously tawdry about having a girl blow you while you are having a beer. And she was very good, but given the 2 cums the day before, it wasn't happening, so when time was up I asked her to send another girl, the best they had. The second girl was older and chubbier with a round face (a 5) but she was definitely much better at BBBJ, because of variety, licking, and slurpy sound effects. Thought I would finish with her, but even with an oily HJ it wasn't cumming (sic). Both were still enjoyable, though, and deserved the good tip for heir efforts.

But I was still jazzed so went to Lolita's around the corner (also 800 THB) and asked the 8 girls outside who was best – they all said they were, so I chose the slimmest and she turned out to be relatively pretty (maybe a 6-7). They didn't have individual rooms upstairs, only thick curtains around each sofa area, and you can hear other patrons getting serviced. That doesn't bother me, I like public sex. Anyway, my girl turned out to be *really* good, working my tip slowly in and out just the way I like it. It took a bit of effort, but when I finally came it was glorious, and she kept milking me slowly with her mouth and tongue until my spasms subsided. Wonderful.

So, the bars are seedy and the girls low quality, but I had a great time and would definitely repeat. I enjoyed 3 girls for at least 20 minutes each (not sure how much time, actually, I was preoccupied) of fabulous BBBJ / CIM, all for less than a TF or Thermae girl. Hmmm. And it turns out that when the girl is kneeling before you with her mouth wrapped around your throbbing dick, it doesn't matter much what she looks like! Food for thought.

[QUOTE=RTheMan;3037646]I travel the world and like new experiences, so last night I thought I'd try a couple of things I've never done in BKK before. Pull a FL from the street and visit a BJ bar. I wasn't sure about the BJ bars from the reports, but they greatly exceeded my expectations! I started by walking the circuit a couple of times at 9 pm between Kasalong, Lolitas and Wood Bar. The girls were all sitting in front of the bars and the reports were right about the quality of girls. Pretty low: Wood Bar had only under 5's, Lolitas maybe had a couple doable, and the slimmest, best looking girl (still only a 6) was at Kasalong, so I started with her.

800 THB to the reception girl gets you a small room upstairs with a small couch. The slim girl washed my privates in the sink and toweled them, then got between my knees on the couch and went to work. There is something deliciously tawdry about having a girl blow you while you are having a beer. And she was very good, but given the 2 cums the day before, it wasn't happening, so when time was up I asked her to send another girl, the best they had. The second girl was older and chubbier with a round face (a 5) but she was definitely much better at BBBJ, because of variety, licking, and slurpy sound effects. Thought I would finish with her, but even with an oily HJ it wasn't cumming (sic). Both were still enjoyable, though, and deserved the good tip for heir efforts.

But I was still jazzed so went to Lolita's around the corner (also 800 THB) and asked the 8 girls outside who was best they all said they were, so I chose the slimmest and she turned out to be relatively pretty (maybe a 6-7). They didn't have individual rooms upstairs, only thick curtains around each sofa area, and you can hear other patrons getting serviced. That doesn't bother me, I like public sex. Anyway, my girl turned out to be *really* good, working my tip slowly in and out just the way I like it. It took a bit of effort, but when I finally came it was glorious, and she kept milking me slowly with her mouth and tongue until my spasms subsided. Wonderful.

So, the bars are seedy and the girls low quality, but I had a great time and would definitely repeat. I enjoyed 3 girls for at least 20 minutes each (not sure how much time, actually, I was preoccupied) of fabulous BBBJ / CIM, all for less than a TF or Thermae girl. Hmmm. And it turns out that when the girl is kneeling before you with her mouth wrapped around your throbbing dick, it doesn't matter much what she looks like! Food for thought.[/QUOTE]I am so 100% in on this post. The BJ bars are a truly worthy stop despite the poor optics. I mean I think we all have this thing where it's hard to choose someone ugly or fat, but at a BJ bar it truly doesn't matter. She's head down the whole time and blowing way better than any gogo girl ever could. If you accept it for what it is, it's wonderful.

The best use of BJ bar comes in one of two forms. The first is you try to get off with your gogo girl but are just too drunk or fucked out to finish. Pop into a BJ bar and somehow her magic will get it done. They really are pros. Second use I only found this last trip. And that is when you are too lazy to bring a girl back to your room to fuck, but love the gogos. Go to the high mileage clubs like Bunny2 or Mandarin and get all worked up stopping in a few places. Then take the stroll over to a BJ bar and get that load lifted! A stunning CIM to close it out. This is a nice change of pace from the normal takeout menu.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3037651]I am so 100% in on this post. The BJ bars are a truly worthy stop despite the poor optics. I mean I think we all have this thing where it's hard to choose someone ugly or fat, but at a BJ bar it truly doesn't matter. She's head down the whole time and blowing way better than any gogo girl ever could. If you accept it for what it is, it's wonderful.

The best use of BJ bar comes in one of two forms. The first is you try to get off with your gogo girl but are just too drunk or fucked out to finish. Pop into a BJ bar and somehow her magic will get it done. They really are pros. Second use I only found this last trip. And that is when you are too lazy to bring a girl back to your room to fuck, but love the gogos. Go to the high mileage clubs like Bunny2 or Mandarin and get all worked up stopping in a few places. Then take the stroll over to a BJ bar and get that load lifted! A stunning CIM to close it out. This is a nice change of pace from the normal takeout menu.[/QUOTE]Not only that but when 800 is for a BJ, I asked how much for full service. She said 1. 2 k. I said 1. 2 k! Got to be kidding me, when the BJ is 800 it's a no brainier for 400 more. That's about the price of just the barfine at some places for gods sake.

But as a caveat I'the say I use CBJ as I contracted some kindof infection from a BJ bar couple years ago & totally ruined my trip.

[QUOTE=Sychip1;3037693]Not only that but when 800 is for a BJ, I asked how much for full service. She said 1. 2 k. I said 1. 2 k! Got to be kidding me, when the BJ is 800 it's a no brainier for 400 more. That's about the price of just the barfine at some places for gods sake.

But as a caveat I'the say I use CBJ as I contracted some kindof infection from a BJ bar couple years ago & totally ruined my trip.[/QUOTE]Yeah but it may be just the opposite of a no brainer. Because now youre fucking a fat ugly chick! And that doesn't work for me. I'the let almost any fat fugly suck my dick since it's all about technique and zero about optics. (Almost). But if it's fucking it's a nuther thing. Got to have some optics. At least for me.

Although I guess 7Heaven would be a different thing. Those girls have some optics. But also they ain’t fucking for 1.2.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3037696]Yeah but it may be just the opposite of a no brainer. Because now youre fucking a fat ugly chick! And that doesn't work for me. I'the let almost any fat fugly suck my dick since it's all about technique and zero about optics. (Almost). But if it's fucking it's a nuther thing. Got to have some optics. At least for me.[/QUOTE]Yeah, me too. Fucking a fugly isn't in my "must experience" list. BJ's are another thing altogether.

Hey all, I recently got back from a trip to Bangkok and thought I would just give a few updates on some places that I haven't seen mentioned recently.

Escorts:

In terms of general summaries, it's always difficult to find early afternoon hookups unless you have a bunch of numbers lined up beforehand, so I usually just source a few from TF or even smooci / agency when I arrive. This time, I used TonyBKK and JaneBKK channels for it and I found that the results were very good. It's a little less bait and switch than the smooci route, though you are paying a premium for younger 8/10 type girls. In my view, the value was pretty good since I tend to like GFE style engagements when ordering escorts. There are a couple of "university girls" on the list but I'm pretty jaded to the Thai experience; most girls will play up the "I'm new to this game" personality for the obvious reason. Regardless, I feel that the girls did feel more authentic as semi-pros, in the sense that they were younger, more attractive, more interested in longer dates with conversation (decent english), more GFE, but worse overall service (they aren't going out of their way to do anything wild).

Thermae:

In terms of night action, I usually stay close to Thermae and continued to use that. As a non-Asian, young foreigner, I didn't have any trouble pulling the majority of the girls that I was interested in. There were a few girls that didn't "look up" or give me attention when I walked by, but that pretty normal overall. Maybe the old heads will cry about the fact that every girl didn't get on her knees and suck them off on sight, but I really don't get the whole narrative that Asian guys are prioritized. Overall, there is just a subset of girls that are picky / don't care / aren't feeling you. It felt like the vast majority of the girls were receptive to talking to and I was always able to pull someone from the bar that I didn't feel I was "settling" for. Prices were generally around 3 k for a short time meeting. I did end up using Tony / Jane more as the trip went on to schedule night-time dates since I have begun to enjoy some longer dates that aren't as easy to find that Thermae.

Aries Massage:

I do like to hit up Aries for some fun nuru action and it still delivered. IMO, you don't go to a nuru place to get good GFE and that still seems to be the case. They have some cute girls working there, but nothing I would consider model class; the main selling point is a great nuru routine that will leave you drained. I do recommend the 2 girls option if you can spring for it (around 10-12 k), because I find that most of the girls have a fun routine that will get you off in a variety new ways. It's not the standard tag in-out system you get with most threesomes. Again, temper your GFE expectations and just enjoy a service-oriented experience and you'll enjoy nuru places.

Black Caviar:

I don't have financial constraints when it comes to how BKK is priced so I always like to come to places like BC / Maria / etc. To get a "top experience". For me, that has always meant the following; light GFE sex with a model-level girl. BC still fits that mold. Overall, it's a nice location where you can get pampered and pick a conventionally attractive woman to please you. It's always been fairly plastic and that still holds true; come in expecting some face / breast work at a minimum. In my many times there, I have rarely gotten anything close to true GFE. Usually the girls will reciprocate a bit if you try for DFK or stuff like that but just be aware that it's never felt like an expectation that the girls have. You are mostly paying to have a super hot girl service you and to enjoy that upgraded visual experience LOL. Generally speaking, expect to pay about 10 k for a 90 minute session for an average costing girl, though you can pay a lot more even though I felt that the costs started to not represent the actual attractiveness of the girls the higher up you go. You will find model class girls at the medium range since they want to ensure they can get customers and aren't waiting for whales to come in scoop them up. There were a few girls that didn't impress me there, but on the whole, I found the visual quality of the girls to be extremely high at BC. I usually come around 7:30 and most of the girls have arrived and set up but the big groups of clients haven't yet joined. I did see a bit fewer Chinese whales than last year and a lot of girls have referenced that Chinese tourism to BKK is down this year so that might be a benefit to my fellow monger in places like this.

This may seem like a stupid Q so please forgive a traveller who has forgotten all about BKK after 9 years away.

What would the fine gentlemen here recco for girl friendly 5 star hotels close to the action areas? What are the complications to have ladies come up to your rooms? And which are the best sources of quality out-calls if one does not want to compete for attention in the thermae's or do bar fining?

[QUOTE=Marshmallows;3037736]This may seem like a stupid Q so please forgive a traveller who has forgotten all about BKK after 9 years away.
What would the fine gentlemen here recco for girl friendly 5 star hotels close to the action areas? What are the complications to have ladies come up to your rooms? [/QUOTE]A bit rusty after 9 years? Please read the Bangkok Hotels thread: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels[/URL].

And search for '5 star'.

Then you will find this post, for example: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels&p=3031716&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3031716.

[QUOTE=Marshmallows;3037736]This may seem like a stupid Q so please forgive a traveller who has forgotten all about BKK after 9 years away.

What would the fine gentlemen here recco for girl friendly 5 star hotels close to the action areas? What are the complications to have ladies come up to your rooms? And which are the best sources of quality out-calls if one does not want to compete for attention in the thermae's or do bar fining?[/QUOTE]Sofitel. Just in front of Thermae cafe.

No restrictions what so ever. If you're into Accor, then they might upgrade. For example in my case, my last 2 visits, both of the time I was provided free lounge access + upgrade to suite.

[QUOTE=Marshmallows;3037736]This may seem like a stupid Q so please forgive a traveller who has forgotten all about BKK after 9 years away.

What would the fine gentlemen here recco for girl friendly 5 star hotels close to the action areas? What are the complications to have ladies come up to your rooms? And which are the best sources of quality out-calls if one does not want to compete for attention in the thermae's or do bar fining?[/QUOTE]No worries at all mate, not a stupid question, just a sign that you had better things to remember after these years, Bangkok nightlife hasn't slow down one bit, but Ithe hotel scene has gotten smarter about keeping things discreet. Try Marriott, Sofitel or Hyatt.

Thanks for reminding us.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;3037519]Yes, I KNOW, COMMON KNOWLEDGE... Still...

Have a completed Thailand Digital Arrival Card, submitted, [B]BEFORE[/B] you arrive (earliest to submit: 3 days before arrival).

[URL]https://tdac.immigration.go.th/arrival-card/#/home[/URL]....[/QUOTE]