That someone can cite all the legal stuff they want as to application here in Thailand like many of you
And I know many Expats and not one I know pays any Income Tax here unless you are operating a
Business.
LBM
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That someone can cite all the legal stuff they want as to application here in Thailand like many of you
And I know many Expats and not one I know pays any Income Tax here unless you are operating a
Business.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1420024]I know many Expats and not one I know pays any Income Tax here unless you are operating a
Business.[/QUOTE]Sure they do, it's impossible to get a work permit in Thailand without every year bringing the Proof you paid your income taxes. My guess is all your Farang Friends (like me also) have negotiated a salary net of taxes. It does not mean that the taxes are not being paid, it's just that the company pays them for me.
Unless all your friends work illegally with no work permit.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1419798]According to that website, pension income received in Thailand is subject to income tax. You can always pay for everything with a US credit card that does not charge foreign exchange fees and have your US bank pay the credit card bill. That way, no income comes in to Thailand to be subject to be taxed. It also keeps your assets in a protected US bank account, since any attempt to seize your assets in a foreign country is often times subject to the whims of a corrupt judiciary.[/QUOTE]That means you pay income tax (on the pension) in USA. So somewhere you pay a tax. Whether it is cheaper or better to pay in USA or Thailand is another story. The countries usually have (reciprocal) treats avoiding double taxation.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1420055]Sure they do, it's impossible to get a work permit in Thailand without every year bringing the Proof you paid your income taxes. My guess is all your Farang Friends (like me also) have negotiated a salary net of taxes. It does not mean that the taxes are not being paid, it's just that the company pays them for me.
Unless all your friends work illegally with no work permit.[/QUOTE]Gee, am I privelege that the Nic has come out of the woodwork to answer/
You are correct. I was generalising too much? In a business sure? A person needing a work permit working here sure?
But of course I might be wrong again the topic started regarding "Pensions" and taxations in this particular case the Expats that I know that are retired here and getting a pension I don't know of one that pays a Tax in Thailand required or not. Yes I do pay taxes on my investments income, Interest Income, in the USA as does many who reside on paper in their own country. But In Thailand, I don't pay a single baht except V. A. T, correction again, I do pay a little property tax on my rentals each year.
LBM
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1376850]For $4400 I can have 16-20 1 hour shots right here with choice of women from over 50 countries. That also means I can go for it when needed, noneed to starve for a year and over indulge at buffet.
I am begining to feel that Costa Rica is much better for folks from North America and that it ain't worth 4-5 k $.[/QUOTE]Until someone can show me another place I can get 2 hours PSE A level service, BBBJ, rimming, and MSOG with a cute girl for US$78 (Tulip, Mango, Snow White, Cherry) , or 90 minutes PSE A level service, BBBJ, rimming, toys, and MSOG with two bisexual girls for US$122-132 (Devil's Den / Eden) or even a simple one hour oily massage with HE from a lady under 40 years old for $30 or less (anywhere in Bangkok or Pattaya) Thailand is the country to beat IMO.
How much would any of these things cost in Costa Rica? Or would they be available at all?
At home I spend $100 a week on average just getting a crummy massage with a handjob from a Chinese MILF or sometimes GILF- this comes out to $5200 a year if I never splurge on extras like CBJ or full service.
I will be in Bangkok on Tuesday and have budgeted $2500 for an 8 day stay, my room was around $200, my airfare from the US was $930, just over $3600 total. I plan to have more than 52 orgasms (the number I have in a year for $5200 at home) in that 8 days with nearly as many women, and all of them will be younger, cuter and give better service than I could ever hope to find in for anywhere near the price.
Two hours with a cute 25 year old including MSOG, Anal, Rimming, BBBJ etc. Would cost a minimum of $400 where I live and probably anywhere in the US, Canada, or Europe. And a two girl lesbian PSE orgy ala Eden Club would be around $800 for 90 minutes here. This makes a $3600 week in Thailand look like a real bargain.
[QUOTE=Linkwray666; 1420658]Until someone can show me another place I can get 2 hours PSE A level service, BBBJ, rimming, and MSOG with a cute girl for US$78 (Tulip, Mango, Snow White, Cherry) , or 90 minutes PSE A level service, BBBJ, rimming, toys, and MSOG with two bisexual girls for US$122-132 (Devil's Den / Eden) or even a simple one hour oily massage with HE from a lady under 40 years old for $30 or less (anywhere in Bangkok or Pattaya) Thailand is the country to beat IMO.
How much would any of these things cost in Costa Rica? Or would they be available at all?
At home I spend $100 a week on average just getting a crummy massage with a handjob from a Chinese MILF or sometimes GILF- this comes out to $5200 a year if I never splurge on extras like CBJ or full service.
I will be in Bangkok on Tuesday and have budgeted $2500 for an 8 day stay, my room was around $200, my airfare from the US was $930, just over $3600 total. I plan to have more than 52 orgasms (the number I have in a year for $5200 at home) in that 8 days with nearly as many women, and all of them will be younger, cuter and give better service than I could ever hope to find in for anywhere near the price.
Two hours with a cute 25 year old including MSOG, Anal, Rimming, BBBJ etc. Would cost a minimum of $400 where I live and probably anywhere in the US, Canada, or Europe. And a two girl lesbian PSE orgy ala Eden Club would be around $800 for 90 minutes here. This makes a $3600 week in Thailand look like a real bargain.[/QUOTE]No responses? I guess the guy pretty much made his point!
Well done!
LBM
[QUOTE=Linkwray666;1420658]I will be in Bangkok on Tuesday and have budgeted $2500 for an 8 day stay, I plan to have more than 52 orgasms in that 8 days[/QUOTE]Somebody better call either Ripley's or Guinness or both.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1420929]No responses? I guess the guy pretty much made his point!
Well done!
LBM[/QUOTE]While the poster makes some interesting points, he doesn't address the time involved. Spending 30+ hours in an airplane and airports, plus the $1, 000+ airfare, for an 8-day vacation may not sound like a good idea to some. But I digress.
The numbers don't really add up unless you are a hard-core backpacker, or something.
The airfare is OK. That's a very good fare from North America, assuming that's where he's coming from.
I would like to see some photos of a $20 / night BKK hotel room. I have mental images that are not pretty. Maybe I'm wrong. I stay in maybe 2-star hotels in BKK, but I've never seen one for that kind of money.
Now 52 orgasms in 8 days. That's 6. 5 Os per day, every day, for 8 days. I daresay most board members can't do that. When I was 22 I could, but not for 8 days straight. If it's true, good on him. But, to me, it sounds a bit optimistic.
The remainder of the budget, $2500, comes to about 75, 000 baht using a generous exchange rate. That comes to about 9, 000 baht per day, BUT is 1, 400 per O. Of course, this includes food, transportation, bar fines, drinks, miscellaneous. Of course, some of this budget may also go for a better hotel, once he gets a load of the $20 per night joint. LOL.
My point is that, while a $300 per day budget is realistic, when you price it out by orgasm it becomes unrealistic. Time is another factor. 7 pops a day leaves very little time for anything else. One every 3 hours only leaves 3 hours for sleep.
Now, just my opinion, but traveling half-way around the world, just to see the inside of bars and a cheap hotels, for the sole purpose of screwing as many different girls, in as little time as possible, is a colossal waste of what could otherwise be a very interesting trip. You can do the same in closer places for a much smaller investment of time and jet lag.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1420959]Somebody better call either Ripley's or Guinness or both.[/QUOTE]I am "shooting" (haha) for 6-7 girls and 7 orgasms per day, have done it before in PI. If I fall short of my goal so be it, whatever the final tally I will have fun trying and IMO it will be worth every Baht.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1420959]Somebody better call either Ripley's or Guinness or both.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I f the guy is after a record, good luck to him. If not. What is the (real) point of settina a qutoa of 52 times in 8 days even before his plane has the gear up. Dreaming nad fantazising is legitimate, keeps you busy in the odd chastity times at home. Gives motivation and so on. But setting a minute by minute agenda (as such, BTW) is pointless to me.
Removes all the pleasure of hte hunt, the search. For as much he can arrive in BKK, call at Novotel BKK and have a line up of girls coming up to his room (seen that he has a list already) and do the deeds. Done deed,"who's next?"
Each one his own and I am not the one to tell him not to.
But still to me it all looks pointless. Ticking boxes.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1420988]Exactly. I f the guy is after a record, good luck to him. If not. What is the (real) point of settina a qutoa of 52 times in 8 days even before his plane has the gear up. Dreaming nad fantazising is legitimate, keeps you busy in the odd chastity times at home. Gives motivation and so on. But setting a minute by minute agenda (as such, BTW) is pointless to me.
Removes all the pleasure of hte hunt, the search. For as much he can arrive in BKK, call at Novotel BKK and have a line up of girls coming up to his room (seen that he has a list already) and do the deeds. Done deed,"who's next?"
Each one his own and I am not the one to tell him not to.
But still to me it all looks pointless. Ticking boxes.[/QUOTE]Maybe 51 in 8 days is a personal best and he's trying to break his record. If he comes even close and reports on all his exploits we'll have plenty to read. Even as a young man about 3 times a day was my limit. Now I'm happy to fuck once a day: and twice in one day is cause for celebration. Oh to be young again.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1420982]traveling half-way around the world, just to see the inside of bars and a cheap hotels, for the sole purpose of screwing as many different girls, in as little time as possible, is a colossal waste of what could otherwise be a very interesting trip.[/QUOTE]You misunderstand. The point of my trip is not to "screw as many different girls, in as little time possible", I could do that at home.
The point of my trip is to experience as much PSE as I can in the limited amount of time I have available with women I find attractive for the smallest amount of money possible.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1420982]You can do the same in closer places for a much smaller investment of time and jet lag.[/QUOTE]Where? WHERE? I have RTFF (this forum and many others) and I have not seen reports of anything equal to Eden, Tulip, Mango, Star of Light etc. Existing anywhere else in the world.
Please please PLEASE tell me where I can get 2 hours of anal, BBBJ, rimming MSOG etc. With a girl as hot as the nicer ones at Cherry / Mango / Snow White or an Eden-style full lesbian / strapon / DP / anal / BBBJ / COF / Multi-pop threesome or more-some for less money and with shorter travel time, honestly, sincerely, I would LOVE to know, and I am sure many others would as well. And yes I know I could find this with escorts in the US, the price for a single one hour session with decent looking girls is almost what I paid for my RT airfare (China Airlines, purchased through their site many months ago and at the time they had a discount for Paypal. My fare was cheap because I bought it so far in advance, traveled on less popular days, and chose to travel during low season).
I would prefer to not spend 32 hours flying round trip but I do not think the PSE I am looking for exists anywhere else for anywhere near what it will be costing me on a per-pop or smiles-per-minute basis even after factoring in airfare, hotel, etc.
Flying to BKK to visit Tulip / Cherry / Mango / Snow White / SOL / Eden once would not make sense to me, but I plan to hit Eden and the others many times. It seems a better argument would be to say "you should stay longer so everything is not so rushed" and sure, I would love to stay many weeks and take it at a more leisurely pace but 8 days is what I have available and I am going to make the best of it and maximize my fun.
As for the "colossal waste of what could otherwise be a very interesting trip" statement, apart from the sex I have ZERO interest in visiting Thailand. There might be something of interest there for you but for me there is not and I can think of lots of other places I would rather take a non-mongering vacation.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1420982]I would like to see some photos of a $20 / night BKK hotel room.[/QUOTE]I have included a pic of the hotel room, Star Inn on Soi 7/1, standard double, no window, currently $23 a night, I booked 6 months ago when it was as I recall $17. I am sure it will not be great but I do not care, I do not plan to spend much awake time there. Star Inn was chosen for its low price and perfect location, it is next to Eden on Soi 7/1 and a quick walk from Nana car park and BTS.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1420982]traveling half-way around the world, just to see the inside of bars . this includes food, transportation, bar fines, drinks, miscellaneous.[/QUOTE]Bars, barfines, drinks. No, no, and no. I find the go-gos / barfines to be a waste of money and a crapshoot as far as quality of service and will not be taking any girls off premises and probably not visiting any bars at all. There no barfines at the oilies I will be visiting or at Eden, and any girl I end up taking to my room will be either be found at closing time in Nana Car Park or somewhere on Suk between Nana and my room on 7/1.
As for drinks, I am not much of a drinker. And as I recall some of the oilies give free water or soda. I plan to buy a case or two of bottled water for my room and carry water with me, can't imagine that costing too much. And food in Bangkok is dirt cheap. Will definitely buy a pass for the BTS, I am pretty good at walking, will take taxis when necessary but most of the places I am interested in visiting are either walking distance from my room or very near a BTS stop. I think Star of Light will be the only one that will require a taxi. I considered buying a bicycle and still may if I can find a cheap one, but I checked craigslist and they seem to be pretty expensive in Bangkok.
I do have plenty of money available to cover any unforeseen miscellaneous costs if necessary, if I end up spending $2600 or $2800 or $3000 or more it is really no big deal to have a good time but I have done the math and it looks like it will come to around $2500 exclusive of airfare and hotel.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1420982]Time is another factor. 7 pops a day leaves very little time for anything else.[/QUOTE]There is literally nothing I would rather be doing while in Thailand. Shopping? I already own everything I could possibly want or need. Sightseeing? I have had my fill of the sights. Clubbing, drinking, etc? Not interested. I want only to immerse myself in an 8 day porn living movie of my own making.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1420982]One every 3 hours only leaves 3 hours for sleep.[/QUOTE]I am estimating around 1 every 2 hours on average. If this does not seem realistic for you I understand, for me it is not difficult. And again, if for some reason I fail, who cares! It will be fun trying and I will have memories to last until I am able to return.
Here is one days planned itinerary:
11AM wake. 2hours to shower, dress, quick breakfast, check emails, change money etc. And travel to my first destination.
1PM Tulip Massage. 1 girl. 2 hours. 2 pops.
4PM cheap oily with HE. 1 hour. 1 girl. 1 pop.
5PM quick lunch.
6PM Star of Light. 30-45 minutes. 1 girl. 1 pop.
8PM Cherry Massage. 2 hours. 1 girl. 2 pops.
11PM cheap oily with HE. 1 hour. 1 girl. 1 pop.
1AM Freelancer. 1 hour. 1 pop.
2AM Eat.
3 AM Sleep 8 hours.
I realize this kind of tight scheduling is not for everyone and is not my preference, I will be making a more relaxed-paced visit at a later date but this time I need to do as much as possible in the limited amount of time I have available. Spreading this same itinerary over a two week period would only add around $200 for the hotel and food, and the food will cost me less than what I would be paying at home or most other places I might want to travel so I don't think food costs are something to concern myself with.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1420982]That comes to about 9, 000 baht per day, BUT is 1, 400 per O.[/QUOTE]Sounds right to me. 2 hours and two pops at Tulip / Mango / Cherry / SW is B2300, so B1150 per pop. SOL is B700 per pop. Oily with HE is B800-900 per pop. The only place I plan to visit that is more expensive than that is Eden. 2 pops for B3900 = 1950 per O. I plan to do Eden 4 times while in Bangkok, will still be averaging less than B1400 per O.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1420988]Exactly. I f the guy is after a record, good luck to him. If not. What is the (real) point of settina a qutoa of 52 times in 8 days even before his plane has the gear up.[/QUOTE]Don't care about records, just an estimate based on past experiences. I did not set a quota, just decided what I want to do while in Bangkok and it added up to $3600 for around the same number of pops I regularly spend more than $5000 on in the US. Pops with cuter, younger, more enthusiastic girls with wide open menus and porn star service as opposed to the handjobs I am typically spending my money on at home.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1420988]But still to me it all looks pointless. Ticking boxes.[/QUOTE]Understood, thank you for sharing your opinion.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1420988]Each one his own and I am not the one to tell him not to.[/QUOTE]Agreed.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1419682]It says retirement payment and pensions are taxable. But if I bring my money in as savings why would that constitute as an income.[/QUOTE]From what I've read on the subject, Thai law generally considers any monies you obtain as both income and taxable.
Why would bringing your "money in as savings", whatever that is supposed to mean, be any different or exempt you from a legal obligation to file a return and pay taxes, if any are owed?
AFAIK, from what a number of legal sites have stated re their interpretation of Thai income tax law, if you bring monies into Thailand in the same year it is obtained or earned, then those monies are taxable. It makes no difference if they come directly into a "savings" account in a Thai bank without being spent in Thailand. Neither does it help you to use a USD card from a US bank in paying bills in LOS, since those monies are coming into Thailand as soon as you make such a payment, which BTW leaves a paper trail in Siam.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1419798]According to that website, pension income received in Thailand is subject to income tax. You can always pay for everything with a US credit card that does not charge foreign exchange fees and have your US bank pay the credit card bill. That way, no income comes in to Thailand to be subject to be taxed. It also keeps your assets in a protected US bank account, since any attempt to seize your assets in a foreign country is often times subject to the whims of a corrupt judiciary.[/QUOTE]According to the website the pension income does not have to be recieved in Thailand, but merely brought into Thailand, whether directly or indirectly. It could be recieved in the UK and then transfered a bit at a time, in part or in full, into Siam. Once it enters the Kingdom, it is taxable.
From what a number of legal sites have stated re their interpretation of Thai income tax law, if you bring monies into Thailand in the same year it is obtained or earned, then those monies are taxable. It won't help you to use a USD card from a US bank in paying bills in LOS, since those monies are coming into Thailand as soon as you make such a payment, which BTW leaves a paper trail in LOS.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1420222]That means you pay income tax (on the pension) in USA. So somewhere you pay a tax. Whether it is cheaper or better to pay in USA or Thailand is another story. The countries usually have (reciprocal) treats avoiding double taxation.[/QUOTE]If in Thailand you owe 37 percent on your non Thai income and in your homeland you owe 7 percent on the same income, you can avoid double taxation or paying both amounts, which would total 44 percent. But you'll still owe a total of 37 percent, such as 7 percent elsewhere & the remaining 30 percent more in LOS.
But by not becoming a Thai tax resident one could escape the legal obligation to pay Thai income tax on such foreign income. Thereby you'ld be allowed to keep that 30 percent in taxes & only pay 7 percent instead of 37 percent. As I mentioned earlier this can be done by spending less than the required amount of days in the Kingdom per calendar year, which is about 180 days.