Berlin

Another question for all privy to it. How well or not so well is the refugee situation going in Berlin? Is there generally angst in the streets and congestion or is it more civil? I am hoping to be able to walk the streets in safety. Will this be the case?

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1771999]Another question for all privy to it. How well or not so well is the refugee situation going in Berlin? Is there generally angst in the streets and congestion or is it more civil? I am hoping to be able to walk the streets in safety. Will this be the case?[/QUOTE]Yes, complete chaos in the streets! Stay away from Berlin! At any costs, please return under your rock and hide. It's like a war zone. Full of evil dangers! Berlin is on fire! Beware!

(sarcasm is an interesting literary tool).

[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1771999]Another question for all privy to it. How well or not so well is the refugee situation going in Berlin? Is there generally angst in the streets and congestion or is it more civil? I am hoping to be able to walk the streets in safety. Will this be the case?[/QUOTE]I'd be more worried about Beirut.

Been mongering in Berlin for couple of years. Here's what I discovered so far.

FKK Artemis - 80€ admission - 60€ 30 min sex.

Does it worth 80€ admission? Yes it does. It's most expensive but also best FKK, and you can easily spend hours here, among beautiful fully naked woman. Even if you don't score it's well spend money.

Are girls good looking? They are gorgeous, and it's a sight you can not find anywhere else.

How is sex? Usually mediocre. These girls are here to make money (target is 500+ a night). Most of them will do anything to take you to room, fuck fast and back in business in 5 minutes. There are exceptions, but they are usually not best looking ones. Usually prettier the girl, worse the sex.

Any pro tips? These girls start doing nice things if you ask for full hour. Also they like to be with their regulars. And they like tippers. So if you are able to visit at least twice a year, try to find a favorite, and work on her. Be nice, tip well (10€ min ,20€ makes them happy), tell her you are just there for her. If you keep her in room for 2 hours she will definitely remember you from now on. Don't forget these girls are best in the business, they are lousy and rushy in bed because they are not happy with payment. I invested on one for 3 years, and now I'm getting half hour long deep throats, unlimited french kisses etc.

EW or Erlebniswohnung Gangbang - 89€ all day long flat fee.

Gangbang? Is it really gangbang? Yes it really, genuinely is. It's not flat rate or partythreff or what ever. There is a nasty girl, attacked by man like piranhas, and fucked until she is totally spent. There is two rooms and usually one girl in each. Girls stay around an hour, and fuck 30-50 times, usually very hardcore.

It sounds like a great fantasy! It does but also a big disappointment because place is a dump, filthy, crowded and smelly. You can fuck a lot but I guarantee you you will touch more dicks than pussies. You can't even move around without touching some one. Also imagine all kind of mongers with their dicks in their hand. And after a while bed starts to cover with trash and stains.

But they have free food right? I don't even sit on couch or touch walls there, place is filthy! People eating there are crazier than girls working.

It can't be that bad? Only turn on is, girls usually have good figures, and they seem to really into gangbanging. After fucking 20 men and being touched and fucked by four others, they look into your eyes, suck your fingers and beg for more. One I complained to a girl about how crowded it is, and she replied, it wouldn't be a gangbang if it was not that crowded.

Anni Porsche - 78€ flat fee.

Another gangbang? Actually no. It's something between gangbang and flat rate club. Compared to EW, much much less crowded, cleaner, but girls are not as good and not that into it.

Can I fuck as many times I want for 78€? Yes and you usually get a one on one session while other guys watch you. It's more civilized than EW. But problem is after fucking one or two, you need some time to refresh. If in Artemis you can eat, go sauna, swim on pools, or sleep in a corner. But in Annie there is two couches and one slideshow. Lets say you did third sortie, how long you will wait doing what? Yes more civilized than EW but still a dump when compared to Artemis.

Next part, escorts and expensive brothels.

I'd love to have some good massage and FS by a Chinese mature woman.

Is there any place in Berlin where I can find this?

[QUOTE=AlainWanderer;1772890]But they have free food right? I don't even sit on couch or touch walls there, place is filthy! People eating there are crazier than girls working.
Next part, escorts and expensive brothels.[/QUOTE]I got a really good laugh from that description of EW. With all the other options in Berlin, I'll have to pass. Thanks for the heads up and your excellent report. I eagerly await your next report, but please be sure and define what "expensive" means in Berlin (in terms of cost range).

I will be in Berlin for 10 days in October and I will be free to do whatever the whole time. I'll be staying with a friend who lives in Kreuzberg, literally just down the street from Anni Porsche. I would appreciate it if you could do a post a report on the low end or mid range options as well. I will have lots of time, but not lots of money. Any suggestions to make the best use of my ample time will be appreciated.

So its a 140 E 30 min one girl. And 200 E 2 girl assuming you did 2 foe 30 min each? And seems the service won't be guaranteed.

Arent you better off with 2 1 HR escorts at your place for same value?

[QUOTE=AlainWanderer;1772890]Been mongering in Berlin for couple of years. Here's what I discovered so far.

FKK Artemis - 80 admission - 60 30 min sex.

Does it worth 80 admission? Yes it does. It's most expensive but also best FKK, and you can easily spend hours here, among beautiful fully naked woman. Even if you don't score it's well spend money.

Are girls good looking? They are gorgeous, and it's a sight you can not find anywhere else.

How is sex? Usually mediocre. These girls are here to make money (target is 500+ a night). Most of them will do anything to take you to room, fuck fast and back in business in 5 minutes. There are exceptions, but they are usually not best looking ones. Usually prettier the girl, worse the sex.

Any pro tips? These girls start doing nice things if you ask for full hour. Also they like to be with their regulars. And they like tippers. So if you are able to visit at least twice a year, try to find a favorite, and work on her. Be nice, tip well (10 min ,20 makes them happy), tell her you are just there for her. If you keep her in room for 2 hours she will definitely remember you from now on. Don't forget these girls are best in the business, they are lousy and rushy in bed because they are not happy with payment. I invested on one for 3 years, and now I'm getting half hour long deep throats, unlimited french kisses etc.

EW or Erlebniswohnung Gangbang - 89 all day long flat fee.

Gangbang? Is it really gangbang? Yes it really, genuinely is. It's not flat rate or partythreff or what ever. There is a nasty girl, attacked by man like piranhas, and fucked until she is totally spent. There is two rooms and usually one girl in each..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NemanLion;1773292]So its a 140 E 30 min one girl. And 200 E 2 girl assuming you did 2 foe 30 min each? And seems the service won't be guaranteed.

Arent you better off with 2 1 HR escorts at your place for same value?[/QUOTE]The experience is different.

In Artemis you are surrounded by naked beautiful woman and you can choose, you can have as many sessions as you can afford and capable and the place itself has great facilities.

I personally preffer it over escort of even a regular brothel.

[QUOTE=DidiVise;1773386]The experience is different.

In Artemis you are surrounded by naked beautiful woman and you can choose, you can have as many sessions as you can afford and capable and the place itself has great facilities.

I personally preffer it over escort of even a regular brothel.[/QUOTE]I've never been to a FKK because the concept doesn't appeal to me, but I can understand those who enjoy it. As you said, being surrounded by dozens and dozens of naked women in itself is exciting. However, I can't see the girls being very enthusiastic about it. Hanging around every day having to put up with coftentimes annoying clients, not to mention the competition between the girls. The prettiest ones get most of the clients while the old and ugly sit in a corner hoping for the best.

Who knows, I may even try it out someday.

[QUOTE=BigAssEater;1773410]I've never been to a FKK because the concept doesn't appeal to me, but I can understand those who enjoy it. As you said, being surrounded by dozens and dozens of naked women in itself is exciting. However, I can't see the girls being very enthusiastic about it. Hanging around every day having to put up with coftentimes annoying clients, not to mention the competition between the girls. The prettiest ones get most of the clients while the old and ugly sit in a corner hoping for the best.

Who knows, I may even try it out someday.[/QUOTE]Good call mate! actually the nude women thing can get tiresome as you get used to it and then just see them as possible money drainers to try and avoid! Usually the same approach what is your name lets go to the room!

It would be different if they teased a lot etc etc touched you but that rarely happens. Plus in my opinion there was only a small amount of stunners having been in loads of clubs.

The drink is also 10 so it is not even as if it would be cheap to sit around just eyeing them up all night!

The room action is just a lottery but just the basic service with silly prices quoted for things I usually get free in Spanish clubs without even asking! and if you are lucky the full 30 minutes for 60 euros

Only plus side is the facilites, porn theatres, food was good, nice pool outside and showers etc.

But this is the only decent option in Berlin so there is no where else to go ! ERW was good but it is a dump ! and there was just too many men round the girls, I got some good action most of the girls prefer a decent sized cock and fellow Germans but not all.

Paul.

[QUOTE=PaulScotland;1773444]Good call mate! actually the nude women thing can get tiresome as you get used to it and then just see them as possible money drainers to try and avoid! ..But this is the only decent option in Berlin so there is no where else to go !
Paul.[/QUOTE]I don't intend to get into a discussion about this, but these opinions, like everything here (mine included), are just one person's. I know from P's earlier Artemis post he did not enjoy it-fine, it happens. But to keep on ranting like this is pointless. Artemis is what it is and many of us, far from naive, find it a fine option. As do the 500 or so men who probably go there on a daily basis, and as seen in the vast majority of the 10 years of reports here. Does it have limits and warts? Yes of course.

If you follow common sense, discussed a thousand times in the Artemis thread, you can have a fine passionate time and not spend wads of money. You choose wisely and slowly. If you do otherwise, with all the reports and advice available, you really can only blame yourself. RB is no hunk, as a 2nd cousin of Jabba the Hutt. But there are plenty of girls whom I find are great fun (from many different countries), who will DFK and cum themselves etc for even a measly 30 minutes if you just make sure the chemistry is right.

I cannot speak of Spain, or Brasil or Thailand or the Antarctic- and maybe the girls there are more forgiving of certain kinds of men, but who knows and who cares? I can speak of Artemis, and certainly in relation to maybe 50 places I know over the years all over the world. There are a bunch of friends met and made via the forum, from all walks of life and vastly different culture who have had the same positive experience and thus we return and repeat. I have had my dog nights where I left Artemis ungepopped or had a bad session. It happens once in a blue moon. And while I am critical of a bunch of things there they could and need to fix (the dreadful music, the smoke especially during winter), it is surely a pleasant way to spend some hours, and there are at least a handful of great girls there and they are great with newbies as well as locals.

Sometimes, people put themselves under absurd pressure. With only one night or a few hours, and lots of expensive travel etc they expect their monger experience to be worth it, if not perfect. That pressure while real and somewhat understandable, has to be managed. You still have to Zen it out, put it aside, along with your wife/girlfriend problems, exchange rates, pilot strikes, alien invasions or whatever might be bugging you at the moment. You just try to see if there is, or generate, some real chemistry. If for whatever reason it is not there with a particular girl, then you have to be prepared to walk away. You have to feel a sense she is attracted to you, whatever you might feel towards her and that you both are on the same page re expectations; if not, you don't zimmer. Putting anger and expectations in check, and just slowing it down and finding the right situation with the right girl is 90% of having a good time at Artemis. The rest: being clean, polite, not drunk or tired, all rather obvious.

Then to say that the loathsome, horrible Artemis is the only decent option in Berlin is also simply inaccurate. There are maybe 3000 girls working as either independents or in the private bordello flats, or the other venues. Some are just fantastic. It is just a matter of taking the time and being pleasant.

All this has been covered at length by Charlie 123's excellent summary of all things Berlin (Search here for "Berlin FAQ") As the over 6000 reports over 400 pages here (and mon bon ami Bobo's attempt to organize the private bordellos pages) show, a reasonable man can only be positive about Berlin and the variety, cost, and quality of choices available.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1773470]I don't intend to get into a discussion about this, but these opinions, like everything here (mine included), are just one person's. I know from P's earlier Artemis post he did not enjoy it-fine, it happens. But to keep on ranting like this is pointless. Artemis is what it is and many of us, far from naive, find it a fine option. As do the 500 or so men who probably go there on a daily basis, and as seen in the vast majority of the 10 years of reports here. Does it have limits and warts? Yes of course.

If you follow common sense, discussed a thousand times in the Artemis thread, you can have a fine passionate time and not spend wads of money. You choose wisely and slowly. If you do otherwise, with all the reports and advice available, you really can only blame yourself. RB is no hunk, as a 2nd cousin of Jabba the Hutt. But there are plenty of girls whom I find are great fun (from many different countries), who will DFK and cum themselves etc for even a measly 30 minutes if you just make sure the chemistry is right.

I cannot speak of Spain, or Brasil or Thailand or the Antarctic- and maybe the girls there are more forgiving of certain kinds of men, but who knows and who cares? I can speak of Artemis, and certainly in relation to maybe 50 places I know over the years all over the world. There are a bunch of friends met and made via the forum, from all walks of life and vastly different culture who have had the same positive experience and thus we return and repeat. I have had my dog nights where I left Artemis ungepopped or had a bad session. It happens once in a blue moon. And while I am critical of a bunch of things there they could and need to fix (the dreadful music, the smoke especially during winter), it is surely a pleasant way to spend some hours, and there are at least a handful of great girls there and they are great with newbies as well as locals.

Sometimes, people put themselves under absurd pressure. With only one night or a few hours, and lots of expensive travel etc they expect their monger experience to be worth it, if not perfect. That pressure while real and somewhat understandable, has to be managed. You still have to Zen it out, put it aside, along with your wife/girlfriend problems, exchange rates, pilot strikes, alien invasions or whatever might be bugging you at the moment. You just try to see if there is, or generate, some real chemistry. If for whatever reason it is not there with a particular girl, then you have to be prepared to walk away. You have to feel a sense she is attracted to you, whatever you might feel towards her and that you both are on the same page re expectations; if not, you don't zimmer. Putting anger and expectations in check, and just slowing it down and finding the right situation with the right girl is 90% of having a good time at Artemis. The rest: being clean, polite, not drunk or tired, all rather obvious.

Then to say that the loathsome, horrible Artemis is the only decent option in Berlin is also simply inaccurate. There are maybe 3000 girls working as either independents or in the private bordello flats, or the other venues. Some are just fantastic. It is just a matter of taking the time and being pleasant.

All this has been covered at length by Charlie 123's excellent summary of all things Berlin (Search here for "Berlin FAQ") As the over 6000 reports over 400 pages here (and mon bon ami Bobo's attempt to organize the private bordellos pages) show, a reasonable man can only be positive about Berlin and the variety, cost, and quality of choices available.[/QUOTE]Your not used to much mate if you think that is good maybe I am used to a better level than you are but I do not want to get into a word fight over anything as this forum is for feedback on experiences the guy who went with me So Happy never even left reports and he usually always does for everything he goes to! Check the Costa Del Sol forum I did get sloppy blowjobs french kissing etc but in my opinion it is not worth going back for and is a cash cow with silly prices getting quoted for extras!

[QUOTE=PaulScotland;1773521]Your not used to much mate if you think that is good maybe I am used to a better level than you are but I do not want to get into a word fight over anything as this forum is for feedback on experiences the guy who went with me So Happy never even left reports and he usually always does for everything he goes to! Check the Costa Del Sol forum I did get sloppy blowjobs french kissing etc but in my opinion it is not worth going back for and is a cash cow with silly prices getting quoted for extras![/QUOTE]And I was surrounded with women at times kissing me etc as I am dark skinned and have dark hair and latin looks and I am in good shape as I go to the gym! This was just a genuine opinion of how I seen it! Me and So Happy walked around Berlin on the Sunday night trying to find somewhere and eventually opted through gritted teeth to go back to the FKK!

[QUOTE=PaulScotland;1773521]
... So Happy never even left reports and he usually always does for everything he goes to! .....![/QUOTE]Should we write: "Bravo, So Happy" (especially if he uses the forum without "feeding" it) ?

[QUOTE=Rocketscrote0]RB is no hunk, as a 2nd cousin of Jabba the Hutt.[/QUOTE]Come on now RB, you are not quite that good-looking. LOL.