Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;3045227]So do you have a list of tier 1 destinations?[/QUOTE]FKKs are pretty good altho too expensive for many.

[QUOTE=Svelte;3045011]Why would someone stay on Soi 4 at a shitty hotel? And you call yourself a "pro"? If you had a healthy wallet, you would have stayed at one of the many nicer hotels within walking distance.

Rookie mistake. You mostly get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]These comments contradict each other as I paid for the most expensive room at Dawin and it was not the best room they have. It would have also been the same cost of other nicer hotels. To spend such a small amount educating myself is not a rookie mistake, there are many low priced operatives who value tips, repeat custom or feel socially responsible towards their fellow workers.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;3045241]FKKs are pretty good altho too expensive for many.[/QUOTE]If you like watching planks of wood bob around on stage at NP then you will buzz your tits off at a good FKK.

[QUOTE=PeerSmarmer;3044954]I'm a pro and I rocked up to a suite with a healthy wallet near Nana with a week of good fun planned and my ultimate conclusion was I will never go within 100 metres of Soi 4 again.

I booked the suite at Dawin Hotel on Soi 4 and it was pants, it was noisy as hell, the breakfast was appalling and the outside patio was completely pointless for a non smoker.

I took several walks along Soi 4 looking for the best looking Vietnamese freelancer (they all seem to be Viet with a few Africans and ladyboys thrown in) and after choosing one that was very well priced she had unattractive tits and offered the most amateur of services, I sent her packing early and the whole ordeal was 100% pointless. I was not going to repeat.

I kept a healthy look out for any hotties in all the Soi 4 bars as I walked back and forth along Soi 4, say 20 times, and only saw one lady that took my interest but never when I was primed for action. My overall opinion of Soi 4 was it's just a hangout for old blokes who have formed some sort of weird subculture that I had no interest in being a part of and never want to be a part of.

I made three visits to Nana Plaza and had no positive experiences. I struck up a good connection with the only voluptuous beauty (Barbie) in Billboard on two separate nights but (probably) stupidly stuck to forum advice and insisted upon paying at the hotel which I was told on both occasions they never do. In hindsight this was the biggest mistake of the trip although the lady in question was a touch up herself which made me cautious. The only places I barfined from was the upper floor Rainbow establishment and Angelwitch, both were OK looking but changed into shite streetwear, had ugly tits and offered awful vanilla services. I hung out at other places but while I usually do well with hotties I found the cream of the crop had no interest in me and the ladies drinks felt like a piss take. I no longer felt like a pro and would never go near NP again although I did suspect that someone with more nous could have their just desserts there.

I took the circuit around Thermae a couple of times and found it to be a rather frightful place. The women just look like saps and most aren't good looking. The few hotties showed no interest in me so I passed without wasting much time or thought.

Thankfully the trip wasn't a disaster due to an excel table I found on another forum detailing all the massage places east of Asok station. I have never had a nuru before and was keen to try one and ended up having seven. The nuru itself was enjoyable and on six of the seven occasions the sexual service was good too. All six did BBBJ, DATY and FK; with one going BBFS but all requests for anal for extra baht went nowhere. Sadly none were perfect beauties but I had a good time with all and on the starfish seventh I received half my money back. BKK Vice was my favourite but it's stupid not to check out numerous places and select who you like the best. The photos posted on their media pages aren't the best so doing bookings without seeing isn't a route to success.

I made one trip up to La Belle in the late afternoon and the selection was dire with only four people available. One was very good looking but I suspect I acted like a moron and asked the Papasan about services (not my usual MO) and received some BS passive reply. The hot lady then didn't make any eye contact with me again and soon disappeared with some wrinkly ugly bloke where she was all smiles. I departed without spending anything.

I can't see myself returning to Bangkok anytime soon as my opinion is it's become a tier 2 destination for sex tourism that caters for Chinese & Korean virgins along with desperados from the Outback / Midwest / Highlands and the OAP subculture that I have no wish to understand. If I was to find myself in Bangkok again I would stay well away from Sukhumvit and use TF with metro visits to the nurus as a backup option. Establishments like Black Caviar might be the best route to take but for me sex tourism isn't sex tourism if you are paying those prices.[/QUOTE]I too felt let down by my first hobbying trip to Bangkok many years ago, but I regrouped, did more research, used laser precision focus on where in Bangkok I was going to hobby and so on, and my subsequent trip was stellar. I feel Bangkok is some of the best mongering that any man in our hobby can ever hope to partake in. Don't give up on Thailand just yet, try it again but differently and you'll see how awesome it truly is. The joy of Thailand is that you can hobby it the way you want. It's quite literally paradise on earth.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;3045241]FKKs are pretty good altho too expensive for many.[/QUOTE]For me FKK's died not because of the price but because I could no longer find pretty Hungarians, Czech, Polish, Estonians, Russians, Serbs, Germans. Got really bored of Romanian robots.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3045374]For me FKK's died not because of the price but because I could no longer find pretty Hungarians, Czech, Polish, Estonians, Russians, Serbs, Germans. Got really bored of Romanian robots.[/QUOTE]I was in sharks a few months ago and it was fabulous. Different strokes for different folks.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3045374]For me FKK's died not because of the price but because I could no longer find pretty Hungarians, Czech, Polish, Estonians, Russians, Serbs, Germans. Got really bored of Romanian robots.[/QUOTE]Some Asians must be mixed in the FKKs, no? One of my Thai bar girl friends is going to Germany next week to work in an FKK. She thinks the added income will more than offset her travel and living expenses in just a month or two. She is one of the best looking 44 year old women that I know, bright personality, and very good English but no German. Very good performer in bed, but not excellent. I wish her success, but don't have much confidence that any 44 year old woman can achieve that. She claims no sponsor for her trip, but I suspect that part is a lie.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;3045399]I was in sharks a few months ago and it was fabulous. Different strokes for different folks.[/QUOTE]Dated 2 Romanians in my home country IRL when I was younger. Why my preference is for other Europeans.

I used to know around 50 guys who all travelled over the Atlantic to go to FKK clubs. Now I know 1 single guy who still goes and that's cause he has family there. I came really close to going in the Spring but reports from the locals I know said no need to go I'll be disappointed.

Glad you had fun there. imo it hasn't been great since 2013 or so.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3045474]Some Asians must be mixed in the FKKs, no? One of my Thai bar girl friends is going to Germany next week to work in an FKK. [/QUOTE]Most Asians I have seen in FKK clubs were all over 40 and most pretty hard to look at. A couple of exceptions over the years but rare to find many pretty and in their 20's. Best I ever found was a Vietnamese girl in Goldentime Bruggen. Don't think I ever met a mixed Asian in a FKK club unless you're referring to some of those "Russians" who have an Asian look. In Amsterdam I have met pretty young Asian girls.

[QUOTE=PeerSmarmer;3044954]Thankfully the trip wasn't a disaster due to an excel table I found on another forum detailing all the massage places east of Asok station. I have never had a nuru before and was keen to try one and ended up having seven. The nuru itself was enjoyable and on six of the seven occasions the sexual service was good too. All six did BBBJ, DATY and FK; with one going BBFS but all requests for anal for extra baht went nowhere. Sadly none were perfect beauties but I had a good time with all and on the starfish seventh I received half my money back. BKK Vice was my favourite but it's stupid not to check out numerous places and select who you like the best. The photos posted on their media pages aren't the best so doing bookings without seeing isn't a route to success.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report PeerSmarmer!

It would be helpful if you could point to the excel table you used. Also, where did you get BBFS with nuru? That has been on my bucket list for a while now. Was it at BKK Vice? If so with whom?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3045475]Dated 2 Romanians in my home country IRL when I was younger. Why my preference is for other Europeans..[/QUOTE]I'm 70. I don't care anything except what they look like to my eye. Put 5 blonde European hotties ass up on a bed and I couldn't tell you where any of them are from. And I'm not really interested either.

I'll been in Bangkok during winter holiday.

I been in massage area, near Phrom Phong.

It was a lot of massage, but it was very difficult to found a crazy nice girl.

I walk around from 40 minute to 3 hours, to found it.

If I have to go with an average girl. I just stay in Italy!

Instead in Summer top girls was everywhere.

But I always found one at the end.

Price was really good: 2100 baht for an amazing hour, all inclusive. Usually I add 200 baht tip, but girl was never asking for it.

One day I never found a very good one in massage, so I pick up one Vietnamite girl in front of Nana hotel. 2 k for her (it may be I can ask less.

But I just never add tip, 2 k go all to her, so.) plus 300 baht short time room, hotel near Nana hotel, very clean. Perfect time, funny girl, and she get so wet.

To make bed wet too. Crazy.

Nana plaza have very nice girls, but on the night always I already have had my long fuck for half price.

Only bad report: flight. I slight with Saudia, all right the flight.

But then I would stay in Bangkok 1 week more.

I try to change the flight, but they was not available one, in the day I need. NO problem my ticket was an delectable and refundable one.

But: to delete ticket online I need and OTP by SMS. I never got it. I try multiple time, with no SMS. It was not a mobile problem, because I ask to an friend.

From Italy to send an SMS to Italian number and it work properly.

I call Italian Saudia call center, and after some times line go down. I try three times, always problema.

I call international Saudia number, they send me an OTP by SMS. And, anymore, it never arrive. I try twice, never work.

I try with Saudia whatsapp, it just tell me to go to webpage.

I send to Saudia an email, it never work email.

I make a complain. After some hours I get reply: to go to web page!

I try the online cancellation module, it never work and send me to agent.

Agent was IA agent, and it cannot do nothing finally.

So I get the original Saudia plane, because legal redound was impossible. And I have a refundable ticket!

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3046895]I'll been in Bangkok during winter holiday.

I been in massage area, near Phrom Phong.

It was a lot of massage, but it was very difficult to found a crazy nice girl.

I walk around from 40 minute to 3 hours, to found it.

If I have to go with an average girl. I just stay in Italy!

Instead in Summer top girls was everywhere.

But I always found one at the end..[/QUOTE]I feel your pain man re the SMS issue. What is it with these companies be it airlines, banks, credit card companies, email providers etc with their god damn verification codes and insistence on using phone numbers and SMS rather than VOIP numbers or something like what's app.

Virtually every time I travel I either lose access to a credit card or bank account, or my email due to the same sort of issue. Drives me insane.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3046895]I'll been in Bangkok during winter holiday.

I been in massage area, near Phrom Phong.

SNIP
From Italy to send an SMS to Italian number and it work properly.

I call Italian Saudia call center, and after some times line go down. I try three times, always problema.

I call international Saudia number, they send me an OTP by SMS. And, anymore, it never arrive. I try twice, never work.

I try with Saudia whatsapp, it just tell me to go to webpage.

I send to Saudia an email, it never work email.

I make a complain. After some hours I get reply: to go to web page!

I try the online cancellation module, it never work and send me to agent.

Agent was IA agent, and it cannot do nothing finally.

So I get the original Saudia plane, because legal redound was impossible. And I have a refundable ticket![/QUOTE]Saudi has a physical location in Bangkok, next time try the office location.

[QUOTE=PgReal;3046900]I feel your pain man re the SMS issue. What is it with these companies be it airlines, banks, credit card companies, email providers etc with their god damn verification codes and insistence on using phone numbers and SMS rather than VOIP numbers or something like what's app.

Virtually every time I travel I either lose access to a credit card or bank account, or my email due to the same sort of issue. Drives me insane.[/QUOTE]It drives me nuts as well, but my personal IT consultant has stressed the importance of dual authentication. In some cases the SMS or telephone authentication can be avoided if you use an app such as Google Authenticator. It works now for all of my email addresses and for me to access my USA government accounts. One of my finance houses claims to be looking into using that or similar apps. For the time being, I'll suck it up and pay the $12 daily international fee with my USA phone.

I know. But I was in Pattaya.

I back to Bangkok on Saturday afternoon, when office was closed (and on Sunday too).

On Tuesday I have my flight back. I would be useless to know if I can have a ticket refund on Monday because I have to ask more holiday 5 days in advance.

My SMS was perfectly working also with Italian number.

Now that I am in Italy I ask for an OTP by SMS from Saudia with my next reservation. It NEVER WORK too!

I call today the call center, but the person I was speaking never understand nothing of my issue. I never want to cancel ticket now, just ask them.

To solve the problem wit OTP in general, but she never never understand. Keep asking: did you delete? Did you flight?

Outside call center, like Saudia one, is useless. What I cannot do, they cannot do. .

[QUOTE=RunMann;3047031]Saudi has a physical location in Bangkok, next time try the office location.[/QUOTE]