Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1137089]Sounds like maybe the Philippines is the place for you, if you've been there before, know it, etc. Your stated goal was to have one last big mongering trip, so perhaps you should focus on a place like PI with low cost, high quality, high volume sex and not worry about the allure of Rio as a city.[/QUOTE]He's got a point. Whether you go to Manila or Angeles City. Very much a matter of taste as they are so different. But you can stay somewhere at reasonable cost and have as much pussy as you can lick your cream on from right on your doorstep. There are other areas of Philippines that appeal, but mostly on the scenic attractions (largely lacking in AC and MNL, although there are some). I don't know the islands that well, but if you want a paradise, [url=http://www.bluerocksubic.com/]Blue Rock[/url] Hotel up in Subic is pretty good and cheap as well. Apartment that fronts on to the beach, good food (including Australian steaks, and remember good food is not generally a speciality in Philippines!) , a floating bar with first class music, beer and you can take the waitresses if you want, or walk a hundred yards or so to the main strip for the usual MNL / AC-style babe bars. You can even ask the hotel to arrange a taxi from the airport probably if you don't want to get a bus. The taxi won't be cheap but it lets you have a bit of style getting away from the AC / MNL rat-race so to speak. . .

Anyway, good luck, whatever you decide!

[QUOTE=Exec Talent;1136980]Please elaborate in the hotel / apartment thread. Granted hotels are now R$240+ per day, but where are you finding "really nice aparments" for R$120? I am sure I am not the only one who would like to know.[/QUOTE]I am finding that the apartment market is high and the quality in Rio has gone with Club Help. Help's closure has given the apartment pool available to gringos wallet burn. I've been in Rio 5 times in 2009 and times in 2010, which gives me an idea of the apartment situation from researching where I would stay. Like termas and other Brazilian business people, as the renter pool shrink the price goes up. During the after the boom mongering days, many apartment owners are not upgrading or fixing wear and tear in apartments. I have inspected apartments with made beds of dirty linen, and bad plumbing with dirty floors and etc. Plus, you never know your neighbors, mongers, gdp, or possible crazies to criminals. So I've been happy with hotels.

The hotels I've been in have clean linen every morning or on demand. Maid service by professional maids with supervisors inspecting after the maids. Most apartment owners or middlemen either half clean the apartments themselves, or some friend. Imagine sitting on dirty apartment toilets, or a male or female who comes to your apartment to make your bed or change your linen after wiping their own ass.

Maybe I'm too funny. But I don't travel so far to live worse than I do at home. I like the smell of disinfectant when I walk into where I am temporary living. As for the gdp fee, when I add up the sheets and towels I use in my Rio 10-15 stay, it adds up money and time. So the gdp fee is a convenience trade off. Plus the free breakfast, and knowing there is in house security and door made who are not easily paid off by a gdp to stalk you.

Just my humble opinion. You get what you like and pay for.

[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita;1136577]Jakarta[/QUOTE]Jakarta is definitively the best option in SE Asia. The eye candy is really outstanding. You could see more gorgeous women there in a half hour then you will see in Bangkok or Manilla in one month. Indonesian girls are REALLY unique in their appearence, thanks to the Malay, Chinese, Indian and Dutch mixes.

Furthermore they are definitely the most easy going girls on the planet and a guy with "skills" can get more freebies than he can juggle with. If you're the kind of monger who plays the non-pro chase game, Indonesia is the place to be (well, with FSU). Rio, AC or BKK are prostitution meccas only good if you appreciate wores who have had miles of cock.

Also Jakarta has one of the most vibrant nightlife in the world.

Jakarta freebies :

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[QUOTE]It's not like the Brasil of 5 or more years ago when the girls were sometimes actually selling ass to afford food and lodging. That's the Brasil that made Brasil famous. Now people come and think it must be the sensual ways of the Brasilieras that made Rio famous as a P4P destination. I think it was the fact that the girls were truly poor until the last few years, and looked up to a ''rich gringo', routinely practiced unsafe sex due to ignorance or not caring, and usually wanted to stay over for the night. The girls were even wanting marriage to gringos. Not so any more. Now you have to make an effort and go after them, where they work, interview them, pretend you like them, etc.[/QUOTE]2011, Copa and even centro is just a pale shade of it's better days. Some would even call it a joke. (Prices not even discussed). For those who know Rio very well, and put in the effort and do the footwork, fun can still be found.

- But why would you want to do that, if you are on vaccation to relax?

There are hiploads of places these days that offers more fun, better prices, better services and much easier access than Rio of 2011.

Of course you can chase the nonpro if that is your thing, but that you can do back home as well, right?

And also for the Brazilian pro girls, you have plenty of them now working in USA and Europe, just to pick easy.

IMHO, Rio is like the P4P Titanic, once a glorious big ship, and if not resting on the bottom of the ocean, there are very few lights from the deck that still is above the waterline.

Save your time, money and go elsewhere. (I know I will)

Best regards, Ken.

Ps: Puta, I was just as confused about the garage at Tigresa.

[QUOTE=Ken_Apples;1137723]There are hiploads of places these days that offers more fun, better prices, better services and much easier access than Rio of 2011.[/QUOTE]I've been living in Rio for 6 months now and I think Puta and you nailed it to a high degree. But I'm curious what places you think are more fun, better prices and better services? I've been to Thailand (BKK, Pattaya, Chang Mai, Phuket) and Germany's FKKs but I wouldn't say they have "better services". The GFE you can get in Brazil, even today, is better than I ever got in those places. Though I really enjoyed the FKKs. Anyway, love to learn more.

Ibn Buttita,

Another mongering spot is Tijuana, Mexico. The prices are VERY cheap. $20 / max on the street and around $60 for an hour for a club girl.

Plus you can always stay in San Diego, as most of us do and just take the trolley (public transportation) down to the border (30-45min ride from DT San Diego). Nobody knows you were in Mexico.

Right now Brazil is good for those with connections. I am there around every 4 months and know plenty of people. I know where to go and thus spend very little while in town (around 50 reais per day!). But for a newbie this frugal living would be impossible. Just go to Tijuana, enjoy yourself and have a good time.

I was there last month and enjoyed it.

SS

[QUOTE=Ken_Apples;1137723]Ps: Puta, I was just as confused about the garage at Tigresa.[/QUOTE]I passed by twice, scratching my head, before I found the entrance. The entrance is well hidden.

[QUOTE=Ken_Apples;1137723]... Rio is over.[/QUOTE]Yes, Rio is over. Everybody stay away! .

[QUOTE=Sperto;1137924]Yes, Rio is over. Everybody stay away! .[/QUOTE]So you can have it all to yourself, eh?

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca; 1137702]I am finding that the apartment market is high and the quality in Rio has gone with Club Help. Help's closure has given the apartment pool available to gringos wallet burn. I've been in Rio 5 times in 2009 and times in 2010, which gives me an idea of the apartment situation from researching where I would stay. Like termas and other Brazilian business people, as the renter pool shrink the price goes up. During the after the boom mongering days, many apartment owners are not upgrading or fixing wear and tear in apartments. I have inspected apartments with made beds of dirty linen, and bad plumbing with dirty floors and etc. Plus, you never know your neighbors, mongers, gdp, or possible crazies to criminals. So I've been happy with hotels.

The hotels I've been in have clean linen every morning or on demand. Maid service by professional maids with supervisors inspecting after the maids. Most apartment owners or middlemen either half clean the apartments themselves, or some friend. Imagine sitting on dirty apartment toilets, or a male or female who comes to your apartment to make your bed or change your linen after wiping their own ass.

Maybe I'm too funny. But I don't travel so far to live worse than I do at home. I like the smell of disinfectant when I walk into where I am temporary living. As for the gdp fee, when I add up the sheets and towels I use in my Rio 10-15 stay, it adds up money and time. So the gdp fee is a convenience trade off. Plus the free breakfast, and knowing there is in house security and door made who are not easily paid off by a gdp to stalk you.

Just my humble opinion. You get what you like and pay for. [/QUOTE]If you are going to Rio and you are renting apartment from rentaflatinrio. Com. When you get down there. They want you to sign a contract. Saying that you would not allow to bring vistors to the apartment for sexual purposes. 2. If you break rules, you agree to pay an extra fine R$2, 000. And any other fines issued by condominium, brazilian law enforcement. And need to be paid in cash within 24 hrs. There is a total of about 15 things the contract has on it. I don't know about other renting agency. HAS ANY BODY HEARD OF THIS?

[url]http://rentaflat.com.br/[/url]

This company long been known for being one of the stricter agencies out there. They have a long contract and will attempt to find you at fault for something!

Years ago they faked a high electrical reading to get money out of me. I was there for about a week to 10 days and my electric bill, according to them, was 200R. The guy claimed the meter (a circular one) had gone all the way around because I most have overused the utilities. This was total BS. I purposely used very little and now the reading showed I had barely used it. The meter had barely moved; which he read to mean it had circled around!

Then the rental guy attempted to blame me for a blue stain on the wall, which was caused by a blue blanket covering they had on the couch (the blanket obviously had been there for years and is still seen in pictures of this apartment on the site. But somehow the guy suddenly noticed it when checking me out. He supposedly decided to check behind the couch and low and behold, saw this stain! He tried to charge me and I got very angry.

Like many renters around the world, they keep a safety deposit and like many of these renters they attempt to keep as much of it as possible.

Stay away from them. Stick with the usual sites mentioned here on the ISG!

[url]http://rentaflat.com.br/[/url] Is NOT monger-friendly!

SS

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1138030][url]http://rentaflat.com.br/[/url]

This company long been known for being one of the stricter agencies out there. They have a long contract and will attempt to find you at fault for something!

Years ago they faked a high electrical reading to get money out of me. I was there for about a week to 10 days and my electric bill, according to them, was 200R. The guy claimed the meter (a circular one) had gone all the way around because I most have overused the utilities. This was total BS. I purposely used very little and now the reading showed I had barely used it. The meter had barely moved; which he read to mean it had circled around!

Then the rental guy attempted to blame me for a blue stain on the wall, which was caused by a blue blanket covering they had on the couch (the blanket obviously had been there for years and is still seen in pictures of this apartment on the site. But somehow the guy suddenly noticed it when checking me out. He supposedly decided to check behind the couch and low and behold, saw this stain! He tried to charge me and I got very angry.

Like many renters around the world, they keep a safety deposit and like many of these renters they attempt to keep as much of it as possible.

Stay away from them. Stick with the usual sites mentioned here on the ISG!

[url]http://rentaflat.com.br/[/url]

Is NOT monger-friendly!

SS[/QUOTE]Sorry, I have used them many times before I got my own arrangements and they were always excellent. Reasonably priced, businesslike, fair, did meter readings while I was there so I could check, waived the deposit on all except my initial booking and waived that as well after I had haggled a bit. Also let me leave my stuff there on numerous occasions while I went to view as many flats as I wanted before deciding. I'd have no hesitation recommending them except if someone does know how to deal with Brasilians. As Brasilian rental agencies go, these are honest in my experience. I've never had to sign an anti-mongering contract - but there again, I don't look dodgy.

[QUOTE=Christopherd;1138048]Sorry, I have used them many times before I got my own arrangements and they were always excellent. Reasonably priced, businesslike, fair, did meter readings while I was there so I could check, waived the deposit on all except my initial booking and waived that as well after I had haggled a bit. Also let me leave my stuff there on numerous occasions while I went to view as many flats as I wanted before deciding. I'd have no hesitation recommending them except if someone does know how to deal with Brasilians. As Brasilian rental agencies go, these are honest in my experience. I've never had to sign an anti-mongering contract - but there again, I don't look dodgy.[/QUOTE]Christopherd,

A friend sent me this question today:

If you are going to Rio and you are renting apartment from rentaflatinrio. Com. When you get down there. They want you to sign a contract. Saying that you would not allow to bring vistors to the apartment for sexual purposes. 2. If you break rules, you agree to pay an extra fine R$2, 000. And any other fines issued by condominium, brazilian law enforcement. And need to be paid in cash within 24 hrs. There is a total of about 15 things the contract has on it. I don't know about other renting agency. HAS ANY BODY HEARD OF THIS

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca; 1138055]Christopherd,

A friend sent me this question today:

If you are going to Rio and you are renting apartment from rentaflatinrio. Com. When you get down there. They want you to sign a contract. Saying that you would not allow to bring vistors to the apartment for sexual purposes. 2. If you break rules, you agree to pay an extra fine R$2, 000. And any other fines issued by condominium, brazilian law enforcement. And need to be paid in cash within 24 hrs. There is a total of about 15 things the contract has on it. I don't know about other renting agency. HAS ANY BODY HEARD OF THIS[/QUOTE]Never heard of this, but the contract speaks about visitors, then even if I take a hooker, I can always say she is my girlfriend and we already planned to marry and even more. You bring a girl to your apartment not for a sexual purpose but to have her translate some stuff from your work and once the door is closed, even if she is moaning out loud, you can say it was the television. I do not see it as a problem this stupid contract, am I wrong?

Had some free time on Friday night hence went for a strategic Terma run. I haven't been to Cancun nor 4x4 in a while, a while being maybe 6 weeks. In fact haven't been doing enough mongering of late, have been busy doing other things. Anyway.

Cancun, got there at about 5pm, place was just filling up. 80% of girls were already there. Not many guys at this stage. I was there to basically just see all the talent. That is I planned a stay of 2 hours to catch the full roster of women. I love the facilities at Cancun, nice and new, however I have never had much luck with the talent there. I tend to find the look is kind of big average looking girls. The look I find unattractive. Having said this I have banged a lot of girls that have worked at Cancun, just haven't seen many hot girls when they were actually there. I guess the girls that I like don't do well at Cancun and leave in a short time. Ended up very dissappoined, not even a maybe for me. Paid R$50 for entrance which included 2 beers.

At 7pm arrived at 4x4. I love 4x4, just love sitting there and watching the happenings. It was actually less busy than normal, you could actually walk around without the need to push and shove people out of the way. It was nice not being pushed and shoved around as well. A bit of space was nice. What wasn't nice was the talent. I always tend to find 1 or 3 hot girls at 4x4. Tend to see a lot of average girls and below as well of course. This time I saw Katia, very hot, very popular for about 5 minutes before she was dragged upstairs. Apart from her really didn't see much else worth jumping on. No real super hotties there. Ended up staying for 3 hours and had about 4 beers, bill was R$86. Beers were Heineken at R$ 9 a pop. Is it just me or can't you buy cans there anymore for R$5? I checked my change very carefully as I have had problems with the receptionists there before. She very quickly gave me R$10 then very slowly another R$4. I don't mind tipping for great service but the cows, I mean receptionists, there get R$0 from me because of there bad thieving past. On the way out the security guy of course asks for a tip, I just look back at him on the way past and give him the WTF look. Yes I am getting grumpier in my old age.

[QUOTE=Lukasek;1138073]Never heard of this, but the contract speaks about visitors, then even if I take a hooker, I can always say she is my girlfriend and we already planned to marry and even more. You bring a girl to your apartment not for a sexual purpose but to have her translate some stuff from your work and once the door is closed, even if she is moaning out loud, you can say it was the television. I do not see it as a problem this stupid contract, am I wrong?[/QUOTE]Yes, that's just common sense, isn't it. I can only speak about what I've experienced. I've rented flats from them on B. Ribeiro, on Princesa Isabel, on Prado, and probably other places. So has a friend of mine. Unlike the places down near what used to be Help, Rent-a-flat has fixed (well more or less) prices. I always get on well with the young guy running the place (his dad is less on the ball). And it's very convenient if you just want to roll into town, get off the bus or Metro, and have a look round for a flat. I've been a few times since I sorted out my own private arrangements just to check prices for other people. But who knows, maybe he turned in his sleep last month or whatever. Like I said, I can only report what I know myself.