Regarding BBFSCIP or anything else you want, do ask the mamasan
[QUOTE=LundonFrog;3059842]Thanks for the pointers. It'll be my first time going, so I wanted to ask how upfront are you about asking about BBFS? Is this something you only ask for behind closed doors (I assume you don't ask the mamasan)? I'd hate to barfine a gal only for her to turn me down.[/QUOTE]HorseTrader has it right. And in my experience there is no discernible downside to telling the mamasan what you want in order to pay a barfine and take one of her girls for a session, for the mamasan to earn a significant tip and any other things good bar customers bring to the table.
That is, other than the possibility the mamasan who doesn't do much of anything to earn her money says, "I don't know. Up to the girl. " Yeah, mama, we all already knew that. Among other things, it's her job to know quite a bit more than "up to the girl" about her girls and to at least get off her butt and discretely vet her girls for which ones might be fine to earn some money that way.
That is based on my experience in gogo bars and beer bars anyway. I have no idea what if anything a mamasan or papasan at places like LE Belle and other similar venues reported on here recently would do or how they would react if a customer asked if that 8500 baht paid upfront included anything close to Real Sex / BBFSCIP with this, that or any other XL option in the fishbowl. I did not read anything in the recent reports suggesting it was possible in those places with those girls at those prices or for any other amount of money. So that probably means no.
Vovo VIP Office Theme Room
I did the VIP with office theme room at Vovo. Mina comes in dressed as a secretary and proceeds to undress and wash you. Would have liked some roleplay as foreplay but there wasn't any. Mina was very enthusiastic though, licking my face and body and moaning as she crawled all over me. Combination licking cock and HJ / BJ. The only fault is she held the tip of my cock in her mouth while I was cumming, instead of continuing to suck.
Cost 2,300 bath. Extras available, but I only remember COF for an extra 500. Not really worth it unless you're really into this fantasy. The only reason I did it was I'd heard all my life about the secretary giving a blowjob under the desk and wondered how it was possible unless she was a contortionist. I remain mystified as, of course, she just turned the chair sideways and knelt on a rubber cushion. Obvious, really.
First time in Bangkok and Asia
Hi,
I'm planning my first trip to Bangkok and will be staying around Sukhumvit, with most of my time spent around Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza, and Thermae. I'm used to nightlife in Germany and other parts of Europe, but Bangkok is completely new to me, so I'm trying to get a clear and realistic picture before I go.
From what I've read so far, I understand the basics, but I'd like to confirm what prices are actually considered normal right now. Things like beer, lady drinks, bar fines, and what you typically pay for short time and long time. I'm not trying to be cheap, but I do want to avoid overpaying or getting taken advantage of. It would also be helpful to know how much negotiation is expected or if prices are usually more fixed depending on the situation.
I've also seen a lot of mixed information about scams or ways people end up spending more than intended. From your experience, what are the most common mistakes beginners make? Is it mostly about getting carried away with lady drinks, or are there other things I should be aware of? Basically, what are the clear warning signs where you should just walk away?
For accommodation, I'm currently looking at Majestic Suites Hotel and Novotel Bangkok Sukhumvit 4. My main concern is that they are guest-friendly and that bringing someone back is straightforward without extra fees or hassle. If there are better options in the same area, I'm open to suggestions.
I'd also appreciate a simple explanation of how things usually work in agogo bars in practice. For example, how you typically approach girls, whether it's expected to buy drinks before discussing anything, and if it's better to take your time or if people usually decide fairly quickly.
Lastly, I'm curious about whether agogo bars are really worth it compared to freelancers, like in Thermae, and if there are any less obvious places that are worth checking out. I'll be there for one week with a budget of around €5,000, so I'm also trying to understand how far that will realistically go if I'm going out most nights.
Appreciate any honest advice from people with experience.
That is solid intel. But a few followups if I may.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3060019]While some guys may say RTFF you asked solid questions in a respectful way so I will give you the Clifts notes.
First, although you mentioned it last, U won't have budgetary issues or have to go low brow with the budget u mentioned. A gogo girl at the top gogos will be 1000 B bar fine and 4000 B for the girl for ST So 5000 B. Thats like 140. Chump change for you. Beers are like 250 R in Nana and 150 R in Cowboy as I recall. Cowboy seems generally a bit cheaper but for my money not worth it. I don't go to Cowboy anymore. Just Nana. Expect the ladies drink (in all the fair places like Nana) to be about same as yours. Tho some places have a two drink charge if you call her offstage to be with you.
And Thermae is not for me. I don't like the atmosphere nor that CBJ appears to be the norm without negotiation. Playing pool at the beer bars (like Soi 7) is fun and you can take a girl from there for less. They may try 4000 on you but that's Gogo pricing..[/QUOTE]Everything you cited here fits my experience over the past couple of years as well.
However, haven't you found that Nana Plaza gogo girls will drop their Short Time quote or ask from 4000 baht to 3000 baht within seconds if you hesitate for even 3-4 seconds before agreeing to it? And sometimes drop it even more than that much?
I know at one point you were talking about playing pool and taking ladies from beer bars in general and cited the Soi 7 group of beer bars as an example. However, I have cruised past and through those Soi 7 bars a few times every week for years, at various hours of the night, and over the past 2-3 years I have never once seen a customer walking out of those bars with a lady in tow as though they are on their way to be alone in a room for anything. Not once. Moreover, every marginally doable girl or better that I have been grabbed by or I have approached has told me, when asked, that no they do not go with customers, only drink with customers.
Have you managed the impossible at those Soi 7 beer bars and actually barfined an attractive girl from one of them, taken her to a room somewhere and actually had sex with her? LOL. Respect for you, Sir! Not only have I not experienced that in those Soi 7 bars since I think before Covid but I have not met in person a fellow punter who has done it since then nor seen any punter walking out of those Soi 7 bars with a girl presumably on their way to do whatever together in private.
Agree with you on Thermae right up to this very week. It is a heavy lift to interact with a girl in Thermae to settle anything a man might want to do with a female sexually other than "How much, how long and how many pops. " Finding an above average looking Thermae girl who is either willing to or vaguely capable of giving a decent standard BBBJ as foreplay much less to a successful CIM finish is a major challenge. Finding an above average looking Thermae girl willing to engage in Real Sex / BBFSCIP and let's throw in extraordinary niceties like DFK and a basic understanding of penile entry into vagina without stiff legs, closed legs struggling for any amount of money is an even greater challenge, possibly as rare as a lunar eclipse. And I hate to report that the challenge from inside Thermae is starting to drift out and among the genuine females standing around outside of Thermae as well.
The only other things I might add to your solid overview is the OP asked about how to avoid scams in the bars so I wanted to mention the "coke and tequila" two Ladydrinks at once scam where the girl might even ask the customer if she can order a "coke and tequila" and make it sound like some kind of one drink cocktail but is in fact about to order two Ladydrinks at once. And the other all-time classic scam to avoid is paying the girl her fee upfront instead of after the sex. We must pay for Ladydrinks and the barfine in the bars, of course. But do not pay the girl's 3000 baht or whatever fee upfront in the bar, on the way to the room, in the room or anytime before the sex is completed.
We all have our weaknesses about that one and fail to adhere to the Pay After Only rule on occasion. These girls are brilliant at coming up with excuses for why Pay Before / Paying Her Upfront must be done. But it almost never turns out well for the punter. And even if the service is acceptable after Paying Upfront, it was probably nothing like the pleasures she would have laid on you if her Pay had been held back until After she delivered the best she could deliver.
Others might have some tweaks and details to add as well, but those came immediately to my mind.
Best Nuru (Zen vs La Belle) + Soapy Recommendations
Hey guys,
Planning to do nuru and soapy fun, ideally with 2 girls, but still unsure on the best spots.
For nuru, I've shortlisted Zen and La Belle. Any recent feedback or preference between the two? Or any other better establishment?
For soapy, haven't decided yet. Looking for tried-and-tested places with consistent quality.
Any suggestions or recent experiences would help.
Appreciate the guidance as always. Thanks!
