[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3064684]
Overall, I really didn't like Bangkok. [/QUOTE]Always pay after services are received. She won't leave early without money.
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[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3064684]
Overall, I really didn't like Bangkok. [/QUOTE]Always pay after services are received. She won't leave early without money.
[QUOTE=ZofoMofo;3064405]1) I like places where bjs and sex happen openly. I've witnessed and done this w FKK outdoor clubs in Germany, but are there any bars / gogos like this in BK where I could be making out w one girl and look across the room and see somebody getting a BJ or banging another girl? I saw Lolitas mentioned for being able to hear other patrons.
[/QUOTE]Best place to go then is Meet the World bar, Paatpong 2; plenty of open action there.
[QUOTE=Mari1256;3064706]Best place to go then is Meet the World bar, Paatpong 2; plenty of open action there.[/QUOTE]It's fair to say you should expect a severe drop in quality; venue, women and probably even hygiene. Not worth the trade-off if you ask me. In Thailand I find that the more one sticks the mainstream the better one's chances of not being disappointed. Bangkok is great for cheap (relatively speaking) and abundantly available plain vanilla. Once you start going off the beaten path its a steep downhill cliff.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3064684] At 8:17 pm on Monday evening April 27,2026 Miki came to visit me. I gave her 6200 baht. Her photos were accurate. BBFS and BBBJ. She stayed until 5:30 am Tuesday April 28,2026.
[/QUOTE]Well, sorry to hear that but it's not good. They will get used to it and scam the others. I would avoid to use those dating app (it's about 80% scam cause girls just want an easy money and most of them will do everything to just get money and dash). I never experience this *knock knock*. Everytime I go I always make sure for the agreement. Only one time in Japan that's only DFK, touch, BBBJ, oral (both) but no sex (That's on agreement that it was up to the girl for secret menu). That's also a hugh payment. Lesson learn and I never partake like that again. It also was one time that I was finished by hand, mouth because I know that 0% for vagina sex so I have to finish or nothing.
I always make sure that I will have sex. That's my first priority for paid session. For spend time together that will always the 2nd or 3rd time to visit them.
I would say for the next time. Why not consider split the payment? First half before the session and the other half after the deed. So, if things not go the way. You lose only 50%. Show them you have money but give them only half first.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3064684]At 8:17 pm on Monday evening April 27,2026 Miki [URL]https://www.thaifriendly.com/Miki370[/URL] came to visit me. I gave her 6200 baht. Her photos were accurate. BBFS and BBBJ. She stayed until 5:30 am Tuesday April 28,2026.[/QUOTE]You got [B]LT with BBBJ and BBFS[/B] for 6200 bhat with a rather young, well-proportioned and attractive girl. A 65 yo guy can't complain about that from a TF girl, or can he? Probably her mailbox is exploding now with requests for dates. I wouldn't mind dumping a load in her assuming she has a proportional ST rate.
Otherwise, despite your claim of extensive mongering experience in other countries, you seem to have made quite a series of newbie type mistakes. Paying 5000 bhat in advance back to back to 2 TF girls is not the brightest. How did you survive Medellin without getting scopolamined to oblivion? Feel free to abandon Thailand forever, but a little self reflection might show that you could have handled things better. Good luck elsewhere. AR.
[QUOTE=Parasitius;3064692]I'm done with Thailand, my future trips will be Europe / Brazil.[/QUOTE]If you get a chance, check out my trip report to Curitiba, Brazil three months ago. That place currently has my highest rating. A hidden gem.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3064703]Always pay after services are received. She won't leave early without money.[/QUOTE]I always pay upfront and I do that for a specific reason. I love giving a woman an orgasm and therefore I want her to be relaxed and happy. Before Bangkok I have had only one bad experience which was in Saint Petersburg, Russia and I don't plan on returning their either.
[QUOTE=AsianRain;3064734]You got [B]LT with BBBJ and BBFS[/B] for 6200 bhat with a rather young, well-proportioned and attractive girl. A 65 yo guy can't complain about that from a TF girl, or can he? Probably her mailbox is exploding now with requests for dates. I wouldn't mind dumping a load in her assuming she has a proportional ST rate.[/QUOTE]Those first two meetings with Miki from TF were good however after that even she went downhill for some reason. And the other women I met, except maybe the one at Jspot Nuru Massage [URL]https://jspot.vip/[/URL] 2600 baht for one hour, were disasters. Even Jspot I would not repeat. Poseidon Entertainment Complex [URL]https://poseidon2000.com/blog/[/URL] is good but too expensive for me at 10,000 baht per hour.
I don't see Bangkok as being a prime sex tourism location in my limited experience. According to what I am hearing on the internet, tourism in general in Thailand is in decline. Too expensive. Too many scams. I can relate.
However I want to give my highest recommendation to my airbnb. [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1487497708311954886[/URL] Very comfortable and reasonably priced. No one has commented on all the girls trooping in and out of my apartment.
[QUOTE=AsianRain;3064734]You got [B]LT with BBBJ and BBFS[/B] for 6200 bhat with a rather young, well-proportioned and attractive girl. A 65 yo guy can't complain about that from a TF girl, or can he? Probably her mailbox is exploding now with requests for dates. I wouldn't mind dumping a load in her assuming she has a proportional ST rate.
Otherwise, despite your claim of extensive mongering experience in other countries, you seem to have made quite a series of newbie type mistakes. Paying 5000 bhat in advance back to back to 2 TF girls is not the brightest. How did you survive Medellin without getting scopolamined to oblivion? Feel free to abandon Thailand forever, but a little self reflection might show that you could have handled things better. Good luck elsewhere. AR.[/QUOTE]If a [B]CIP[/B] and [B]CIM[/B] finish with those acts of [B]BBFS[/B] and [B]BBBJ[/B] matters to you or anyone else rushing to book a session with that girl I would recommend stipulating those finishes upfront along with Pay After Only since I don't believe either was mentioned anywhere in the report.
Not that the OP didn't get those finishes. We have no idea since they weren't mentioned. But the fact that neither of those terms were mentioned anywhere in the report at a time when many P4 P girls in Thailand are coming up with all kinds of scams and excuses to get as much money for nothing or for only half of what is agreed upon as possible, as is repeatedly described in the report, especially when the customer makes the classic Thai P4 P mistake of Paying Upfront, should be seen as a distinct possibility that neither ever happened.
I would add that many recent P4P customers in Thailand have allowed the girls to get away with segmenting and separating acts of [B]BBFS[/B] from the [B]CIP[/B] part and perhaps to a lesser extent acts of [B]BBBJ[/B] from the [B]CIM[/B] part in order to renegotiate for more money in the room, at the point of entry or even a few strokes in when it is apparent to her another potential Pay Day could be traveling from his balls to his dick and beyond any minute now.
Whatever the reason that many Thai girls have been allowed to or taught by customers that they can get away with what amounts to the Sex Act version of the Coke and Tequila Two-Ladydrink scam to get a double Pay Day for what ought to be an unspoken given about each, unless you only want a [B]BBBJ[/B] as foreplay, I would strongly recommend the particular finishes you want and expect for each of those Sex Acts for the money be clearly stated by the customer and then be clearly agreed to by the girl these days.
Again, that is unless neither finish or any particular kind of finish matters to the customer.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3064782] at a time when many P4 P girls in Thailand are coming up with all kinds of scams and excuses to get as much money for nothing or for only half of what is agreed upon as possible, as is repeatedly described in the report, especially when the customer makes the classic Thai P4 P mistake of Paying Upfront.[/QUOTE]CIP or CIM aren't particularly important to me, however this attitude of scamming customers just amazes me. Maybe I have been lucky and I am not super experienced however I haven't seen this kind of craziness anywhere else. Don't women want repeat customers, word of mouth advertising or good online reviews? It's as if they are completely living in the moment and after this visit to me they are retiring. At any rate, I really don't like this attitude at all. I want to feel that she wants a good relationship with a good customer and not that I have to hold a gun to her head to make her serve me. I'll take my money to a different country.
[QUOTE=Mari1256;3064706]Best place to go then is Meet the World bar, Paatpong 2; plenty of open action there.[/QUOTE]I don't know if you have actually been yourself to MTW but generally no 'open action' going on. Usually they just take one customer at a time and once you enter they close the door to prevent other customers from entering. It's only a small little bar with 3/4 staff. The reason for going is to get attention of 3 ladies at once (4 if you can convince the bar maid / owner), so they can't really divide their time amongst multiple customers even if they wanted to.
So if you are expecting a hopping bar with multiple guys sitting at the bar getting BJ's at any one time as you walk in, think again that's not the vibe in MTW.
I was there in Feb 2026. It's mainly BBBJ but you can get FS in the back room, I drew the line at that but I would probably risk it on my next trip. I don't think the hygiene was any worse or better any most other bars or MP shops.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3064684]At 8:17 pm on Monday evening April 27,2026 Miki [URL]https://www.thaifriendly.com/Miki370[/URL] came to visit me. I gave her 6200 baht. Her photos were accurate. BBFS and BBBJ. She stayed until 5:30 am Tuesday April 28,2026.
On Tuesday afternoon I went on [URL]https://fiwfan.app[/URL] and I made an appointment to meet a woman on the third floor at Ratchada 17 Place 368 Soi Inthamara 47, Ratchadaphisek, Din Daeng, Bangkok 10400. I took a Grab taxi there. The profile photo was fake. I visited three other women at the same location and all had fake profile photos. Then I walked about ten minutes to Poseidon Entertainment Complex [URL]https://poseidon2000.com/blog/[/URL] I paid 10,560 baht and took a bath with a beautiful girl and lied in bed and chatted with her for about 40 minutes.
On Wednesday April 29,2026 I was expecting Miki to come at 2:00 pm. I messaged and called her, however she did not respond until 3:10 pm. Before that I had called a Grab motorcycle and I was on my way to Daisy Dream Nuru Massage [URL]https://daisydream.club/[/URL] I was introduced to all of the available women and I chose one. She was nice looking however she had a lot of tattoos which I realized only after she had gotten undressed. We showered and lied on the bed however she would not allow me to put a finger in her vagina. I paid 2500 baht.
From there I went down the alley to Jspot Nuru Massage [URL]https://jspot.vip/[/URL] I chose a pretty girl with long hair and big breasts with implants. We took a shower, I massaged her vulva and she massaged my penis and she became very aroused..[/QUOTE]I don't regard BKK as paradise but it's certainly a lot closer to it than most other major mongering cities for choice vs price etc. I am sorry but I have to agree with AsianRain, you come across at best as very naïve. Clearly you also think 'you know best' and the type of person that doesn't listen to or take advice.
I think I could scam you out of money easily enough myself. Honest self-reflection would be wise but I think a waste of time cause do doubt you don't think any of the mixed experiences is your own fault.
Finally posting specific links to girls, hotel names, addresses but also room numbers I don't think is appropriate either in this forum.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3064789]CIP or CIM aren't particularly important to me, however this attitude of scamming customers just amazes me. Maybe I have been lucky and I am not super experienced however I haven't seen this kind of craziness anywhere else. Don't women want repeat customers, word of mouth advertising or good online reviews? It's as if they are completely living in the moment and after this visit to me they are retiring. At any rate, I really don't like this attitude at all. I want to feel that she wants a good relationship with a good customer and not that I have to hold a gun to her head to make her serve me. I'll take my money to a different country.[/QUOTE]No, unless they have reason to think you are staying long term in Thailand, they do not think about that. And even if you are, most won't care about that. I'm sure you rang all their "tourist fresh of the banana boat" alarm bells.
Don't know how things are where you mongered before, but had you read this forum first, you would have known this: in Thailand you always pay after. Now you know why.
The only exceptions are when walking in to sex shops / doing thai fiwfan / sideline-things, or the barfine at bars / go-go bars, where you pay the barfine at the bar, but the money to the girl after you have finished in your room.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;3064815]No, unless they have reason to think you are staying long term in Thailand, they do not think about that. And even if you are, most won't care about that. I'm sure you rang all their "tourist fresh of the banana boat" alarm bells.[/QUOTE]I'm here for two weeks so I think ten sessions with me would be better than one. And I might come back in a few months. And I might have friends who would like to hear about a great provider. These women have a business. They need to act like it. Those poor rice farmers in Isan who send their daughters to Bangkok to stave off starvation should check up on what those daughters are doing. I have a feeling that those bahts are drying up.
[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3064817]I'm here for two weeks so I think ten sessions with me would be better than one. And I might come back in a few months. And I might have friends who would like to hear about a great provider. These women have a business. They need to act like it. Those poor rice farmers in Isan who send their daughters to Bangkok to stave off starvation should check up on what those daughters are doing. I have a feeling that those bahts are drying up.[/QUOTE]Probably like everyone else reading this forum they clicked on the TF links that you posted. One has removed all her photos and the other has deleted her profile altogether. Most likely as a direct result of you posting their details on a public forum. Remember TF is a dating site not a sex for hire site.
Don't pretend to give a flying f'k about your fellow humans. A little respect would go a long way.