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[quote=mattrick;1245041]drove by there the other night and they were open for business. you have to take much of what you read in philippine newspapers with a grain of salt.[/quote]heard the korean owners payed some fines and made the requested payments to the proper people to reopen. only a matter of time before they stop paying and another 'rescue operation' will be put in place. the grain of salt in this case was true, just the saving face move of calling it a 'rescue operation and **** investigation' was more for the local officials to save face with the public and hide behind some noble quest. the real motive of the operation was a shakedown and everyone knows that.

if indeed the korean owners refused to pay they would not be allowed to reopen. club jaguar was an example of a owner who refused to pay, the local officials enacted a law to close him down for good when he tried to reopen under another persons name.

you play, you pay. goes perfect with the new moto of the philippines,"it's more fun in the philippines".

[QUOTE=Brenno;1246227]Life is short and world is big, why should I go back to Cebu?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Brenno; 1246228]You know what I think? I think that Cebu has nothing to offer. However even in the desert something can be found, this doesn't make the desert a paradise. People who do not have anything to say, just do not write reports. I think the majority of people (99%) going to Cebu do not find nothing but they silently skip over and none know nothing about them. See, how many names write on cebu thread? 10, 15 maybe?

Sorry, this is what I think.[/QUOTE]I must be the 1 percent. These are all mall pickups (well, they picked me up). I liiiiiiike Cebu.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1245155]I was one of the guys you PM and you never contacted me when you got here? And you said April you get here? Some of the other guys you pm do not live here

I am the slum expert and there is no place like you describe, that is my street today due to the tsunami alert as you can see I live in the middle of it.[/QUOTE]Frenzy,

You were the only one who mentioned the Negros-Cebu earthquake and the tsunami scare that happened Monday morning and was all the talk of the Philippines and had nerves on edge for awhile. Alot of the members engaged in flame wars have never visited Cebu. Just goes to show how few spend time in Cebu and are plugged into what's going on.

I left CC early Monday morning for white sand and was in a van on the road when the earthquake hit. I didn't feel a thing and narrowly missed the chaos. However I felt smaller after-shocks as late as Wednesday morning farther away from the epicenter.

The ring of fire has brought about a change of topic, let's move on.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1246236]You state you know how to move? You where in cebu 4 days and you could not get a girl? You sound disabled to me and I think you are blind you could not see the other bars, as I replied to you before there are more than 2 bars in cebu, if you visit for 4 days do a bar hop every night, do not waste time on malls and DIA or you will end up wanking in your hotel room.[/QUOTE]Dude I was in Cebu 2 months ago and getting ready to go again. I did my home work. Had lots of DIA girls on tap. Guess what I did not even call one of them. I stayed at Parklane. I walked to Ayala Mall. With in 5 minutes I picked up two hotties from the province. Every time I walked over there I had some action. Also went to a few bars and found a few beauties easily. Dude- if you can't get laid in Cebu- you can't get laid.

Had 2 meetings set up with new girls I met on DIA this morning.

The first one, when she was about to leave for Robinson's where we were to meet, asked me if she could bring 3 friends instead of 1 for the first meeting, and would I pay for a taxi to and from Talisay (meeting her at the drive in, when they arrived, to pay). I told her emphatically NO. In fact, don't come at all. I have no doubt I could have gotten laid by her, if not all her friends too. But obviously she was setting herself up to be a real piso burner.

In my experience, the good ones never try and hit you for high $$$ before even meeting in person and they can and should take a jeep. If they are well off enouph to take a taxi to the first meeting, good for them, but don't tell me about or ask for piso for it. (Once I know them and have received good service, then fine, a reasonable taxi allowance will be built into the deal.) Furthermore I had no interest in paying for 4 meals and or 4 Bo's overpriced coffee concontions, which, sure as the sun sets in the west would have been next. 1 or 2 cheap meals I'm happy to write off as the cost of doing business, but 4 is just damn irritating.

The 2nd one arrived on time, and alone. Both great signs. She was 19, very pretty, with a fantastic body. Surprisingly she wasnt hungry for Jollibee or Mang Inisal or something like that, and all she wanted was a 50 piso shake from the food court. All to the good.

The bad was, however, that she was angling for a boyfriend, not a playmate, despite what I indicated to her in prior chat. Ohh, well, I would have liked to bang her, but it wasnt meant to be. If your mining the DIA route, this is par for the course. A certain perctage of girls know what your after, but are desparate to meeting a foreign guy for LTR and hope they can flip you to that, even when you are up front with your short term desires. I gave her 50 piso for jeeps and sent her on her way. Hope she changes her mind later and txts me for a booty call.

So, with those 2 strike outs I called one of my regulars (found on DIA) and had a great 2. 5 hour session with her in the afternoon. Paid her PHP 500 for the short time plus PHP 200 for taxi, and we parted company, both happy.

This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.

I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.

In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.

I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.

Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.

That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.

Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.

At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.

What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.

I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.

So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.

But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?

[QUOTE=Afaire; 1252316]This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.

I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.

In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.

I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.[/QUOTE]You have made a few big mistakes. Cebu is a good place for having great non-pro GFE hookups that are met primarily over the internet. You did not do your homework to develop and find suitable women to meet [b]before your trip[/b] And to cultivate some kind of relationship using YM chat weeks before your trip. Just combing through DIA and sending messages to woman asking for there CP# and to meet for fun when you are already in Cebu is a fatal mistake. Your DIA and SMS messages will mostly go ignored by the average girls leaving only those who can be considered online pros to reply.

What average woman on a dating site wants a guy to send her a message when he is already in town? [b]NO ONE! [/b] Most woman in Cebu (and in the Philippines) like to get to know you before your trip so they can tell all there friends (chika-chika) they have a foreigner coming to meet them and they feel special. Most want to get to know you through online chat and after they get comfortable most will be ok staying with you in your hotel and taking good care of you in bed. You did not give them enough time to get excited about your arrival.

Caution, this is not about pouring sweet bullshit into there ears as one guy put it. You can be yourself and make no promises about love, marriage or commitment and even better if they know you are not serious as the chat sessions just function as a getting to know each other period.

Also note that even if you do chat with dozens of woman before your trip and they all say they are ok to come to your room a certain percentage will meet but not follow through so always have a Plan B-C-D ect. Some will refuse to meet no matter what.

[quote]Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.[/quote]You are only paying the Juiliana girls 500p for taxi? Dude that's karipot prices! 500p is good for short time street pickups but for Juliana girls most expect 1000p short time or 1500-2000p all night depending on the quality of the girl. These girls talk and if you do not pay the going rate most will quickly leave you alone.

[quote]That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.

Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.

At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.[/QUOTE]You are new and your main problem is you can't tell the difference between a girl who is a semi-pro working the mall and average girls having 'hangout time' at the mall. Most average girls when approached will not go with you but are open to exchanging numbers and becoming text-mate friends, but only if you seem nice and not a sex-maniac. No girl wants to look like a GRO infront of her friends di ba. Use some charm, be smooth and don't expect every girl to fall at your feet.

SM mall is not the place for free-lancers, but some do make the rounds. You have to have some experience to spot them and some game and balls to approach normal women but it can be done. Gwapo guys and guys that present themselves well stand the best chance at instant pickup success. Short, over-weight, smokers, unshaven, very loud abrasive talkers or guys who need underarm will find YMMV greatly in a place like Cebu.

[quote]What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.

I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.[/QUOTE]You will have to have some game and be smooth to pickup normal girls. The women who work in the malls have all been chatted up before and the word is out on foreigners coming to Cebu for sex with very few guys marriage minded. Hard to score these woman as many co-workers are watching you talk to her and again she doesn't want to look like a GRO infront of everyone.

[quote]So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.

But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?[/QUOTE]Again you did NOT do your homework online before arrival so now you are stuck in your hotel room with your dick in your hand. Try picking up normal girls during the day, but since you are shy that will be hard for you. I do not know how much longer your trip will last, but my advice to you would be to go back online and search for a few suitable girls who are online at the same time you are. Send them a short message to the effect you are looking for someone sweet and nice to spend time with as you will be arriving in Cebu soon. Screen the replies carefully and focus on the ones who seem most enthusiastic you will meet them. Send them a reply and tell them you will arrive in a few days and then go from there.

While that game plan is brewing go to the bars in the early evenings and barfine a girl (or two). I know you mentioned you are not looking for pro's but since you did not do any homework before arrival and you strikeout picking up average girls it's either that or your dick in your hand. You choose.

You mentioned you had a few good experinces with some DIA hookups, why not meet them again? I think I know why, you didn't properly hold up your end of the deal if you gave them 500p (or nothing) and they will not return because you are branded karipot. Maybe you can clarify.

Again, some free advice. Just because a few guys posted they had a great time in Cebu (or any other place) doesn't mean girls will fall at your feet when you get off the plane. Guys posting it's "easy" to pickup average girls in the Philippines sometimes bend the truth alittle (or alot) and often leave out vital details like they paid 2-3-4000p for the experience. Nothing is ever as easy as it sounds and picking up girls requires work, game, effort and social graces. Also some guys are better looking or have a more appealing personality and it takes little effort for them to get laid no matter where they are.

If all else fails make a big sign and walk around Colon "Wanted: Women for sex, apply within, no experience necessary, OJT rates apply" and that should ensure success. ;)

YMMV should be stamped in your freakin' passport upon arrival.

Well said Stroker Ace88. Cheap Charlies are not appreciated. These guys think that because the girl doesn´t ask for money, she doesn´t need it.

Thank you for the comments guys,

Dateinasia: indeed, the 3 girls who I got, I contacted them before arrival, I continue to see one of them. I was not aware of this important "before" issue.

Malls and street: ok, I just have to grow some balls. Still, I don't understand why it was easy for me to approach girls in latin america and why here I feel uncomfortable. I feel like flirting is not welcome. But it may be just my bug.

Money: I've always paid 500p for short time + occasional meals. Now I see your reaction. So how much one should give to freebies in cebu?

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1252363]You have made a few big mistakes. Cebu is a good place for having great non-pro GFE hookups that are met primarily over the internet. You did not do your homework to develop and find suitable women to meet [b]before your trip[/b] And to cultivate some kind of relationship using YM chat weeks before your trip. Just combing through DIA and sending messages to woman asking for there CP# and to meet for fun when you are already in Cebu is a fatal mistake. Your DIA and SMS messages will mostly go ignored by the average girls leaving only those who can be considered online pros to reply.[/QUOTE]Great info Stroker Ace88, must read info for a newbie.

[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1252546]Great info Stroker Ace88, must read info for a newbie.[/QUOTE]Agree with Starchild and David. Post of Distinction about Cebu.

Just a point about DIA (I will put it here rather than on the Chat etc thread).

Guys need to realise that some of the hot girls on DIA get (literally) 100s of hits PER DAY.

If they reply to your message and then don't seem to remember you when you write back it is because they do not have a good "filing system" either in their head or on their computer, especially if they are online in a cafe for 30 or 60 minutes.

I met an "average" woman a few weeks ago and she showed me her DIA on my laptop. She had 55 messages received in the recent 10 hours since she last logged on. It gets damn difficult for her to know who is who.

Just saying this so you can cut some of the girls some slack if they don't answer your messages in the way you expect. You need to make yourself [B]STAND OUT[/B]

[url]http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest[/url]%2BNews / Singapore / Story / A1Story20120229-330733. Html.

Six arrested over webcam love scam.

POLICE have busted an Internet love-scam syndicate comprising six individuals who allegedly extorted about $100, 000 from at least five victims by threatening to circulate compromising videos of them.

The suspects, comprising three men and three women aged between 17 and 47, were nabbed yesterday at a flat in Marsiling. From which their illicit operations are believed to have been carried out. And in the vicinity of Ang Mo Kio.

Among them was a couple. A 22-year-old man and a 17-year-old girl. Believed to be the masterminds of the syndicate.

Items such as laptops, mobile phones, ATM cards, Internet-banking devices and bank books were also seized.

During a press conference held yesterday at the police headquarters in New Phoenix Park, Deputy Superintendent of Police (DSP) Aileen Yap, who is deputy head of investigation at Ang Mo Kio Police Division, said that the "female subject would befriend potential victims online and gain their trust through chats".

This was conducted on popular Internet website Alamak. Com, where webcam chats would take place between them.

Once a victim's trust had been gained, the suspect would undress to persuade the male victim to strip in front of the webcam. The suspect would then record it, DSP Yap added.

The suspect would then threaten to circulate the footage online unless the victim transferred money to her.

The scam came to light after a 22-year-old man lodged a police report on Sunday, after being scammed of at least $97, 000 over a nine-month period.

The victim had made more than 80 transactions during that time to various bank accounts provided by the suspects.

The police said two other scam reports made in February last year and early this month may be linked to the same syndicate, but at least two other victims have yet to make reports.

If convicted, the suspects face a jail term of up to seven years, along with caning for the male suspects.

[url]http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_771921.html[/url]

Man $97, 000 poorer after online striptease in video chat.

The young man thought he had found a friend.

The 17-year-old girl he met on an online chatroom called Alamak. Com was friendly. Very friendly, in fact.

Within a month, their online chats had moved on to video chats, which then turned risque. She started stripping for him.

He did the same, but that one session of cyber titillation ended up with him being terrorised for nine months and $97, 000 poorer.

[url]http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1185802/1/.html[/url]

Police bust online love syndicate, victims lost over $100, 000.

SINGAPORE: Police have busted an online syndicate which extorted at least $100, 000 from unsuspecting individuals looking for love.

The case arose when a 22-year-old man lodged a police report on Sunday, alleging that he was a victim of extortion.

Initial investigations reveal that the man had befriended a woman in May last year, via an Internet chat room.

Both engaged in webcam conversations which led to the woman persuading the victim to appear naked in front of the webcam.

Unknown to the victim, the woman had recorded the footage. She then threatened to circulate the footage online if the victim did not transfer money to her.

The man complied and this went on for nine months, with several other suspects entering the fray.

In all, the man made over 80 transactions, amounting to at least $97, 000 to various bank accounts provided by the suspects.

The suspects, three men and three women, aged between 17 and 47, were arrested on separate occasions on Tuesday.

The first arrest of four suspects was made at about 4am at a unit in Block 32 at Marsiling Drive.

The other two suspects were arrested later at 3. 30 pm in the vicinity of Ang Mo Kio.

It has been revealed that at least four other victims were conned, with the suspects receiving a total of at least $100, 000.

Two of the suspects, a 22-year-old man and a 17-year-old woman, will be charged in Court on Wednesday for an offence of Extortion with Common Intention. Investigations are still on-going for the remaining suspects.

If convicted, the suspects could be jailed up to seven years and caned.

Police gave this advice.

DSP Aileen Yap, Deputy Head of Investigation at Ang Mo Kio Police Division, said: "Exercise caution when dealing with unknown people over the internet. Do not accede to any request that may put yourself in a vulnerable position such as performing compromising acts in front of the webcam."

Singapore dollars I assume, Singapore chat site and Singapore scam. Wienie waggers beware. This is another post worthy to be included in the "paranoid members" thread.

Just got back from a weeks holiday in Cebu. Had a great time.

Being North American (didn't see too many other NA there) , it was refreshing to go to a place where almost everyone spoke and understood me well. Although I speak a little Spanish and Portugeese it was so much easier in Cebu. That and the freindly attitude of the native population was especially nice. Nowhere I have travelled, and I've been to many places have the locals been so friendly and polite.

David recommended the Marriot for us and it was perfect; next to the Ayala Mall was a bunus as we always walked to dinner and found many nice girls to talk to. Beware though, there were a few Ladyboys lurking by (np if thats your thing).

I couldn't agree more with David and the other senior contributors to this Forum. To really enjoy the Full experience you need to do your homework. We did and it paid off hansomely. Thanks to a little help from my friends I had ample pro and non-pro action. Average cost was about 2500P or about $60 USD. I have np with that. In a week I had 3 pros and 7 non-pros and all were good in there own way. Personally, although I prefer the Latins in Rio, Cartagena and Havana; BUT, women here were pationate and every one of them tried there best to accomodate my needs. I was never rushed and no-one ever asked for money up front except for the small Bar-Fines I paid (700p) , about 18 USD. All in all would recommend Cebu.

BTW-its a good idea getting a local Sim card and some minutes-I had a non-locked phone I put in a SIM and 500 minutes for 600p thats $15USD. That was plenty for the week and was indispensible in texting the various dates we had.

*URGENT*Scam ALERT.

A very popular forum [url]www.livingincebuforums.com[/url] Was run by a convict from US, who has now scammed millions of pesos from newbies in Cebu, the person Paul Petrea who has a history of scamming in US and PH is now on the run. His gate keepers are trying to suppress his whereabouts and his sister sites like [url]www.cebuexpatservices.com[/url] Is run by his cohorts. Please do not deal with any of these sites or the persons. Before, escaping he told the forum, he is going to US, but he has a fake passport and bribed the authorities to stay in PH, he cannot escape from the PH, as he has cases in US also, Please inform police if you see him in your city in PH.

As is the general rule as senior members know already here. Never ever deal with your own kind, they are the first ones to scam you. The guy played a LONG CON. Opened forum. Let it run for five years, gained the trust of many members and then started an investment scheme and in first round, he paid out. Words spread that its a good investment and expats invested most of their savings. Never to be seen again.

[url]http://paulpetrea.blog.com/[/url]

[url]http://liveinthephilippinesforum.com/showthread.php?tid=124[/url]

Please go through the above links to see the extent of the scam and learn that never ever to trust your own kind first. How seemingly guys who appear to help you out of their way are the first ones to take everything you have.

If this doesn't wake you up to not trust anyone in PH especially your own kind, then god save you.

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I have no personal agenda against the guy, I just came to know about the scam today and people losing their savings, I'm just warning you so that you won't fall for it. Not now. But in the next five years. When this story dies down and he plays his scam again as he has done before. He is now hiding to let time run out on the story so that he can con again. Please be careful. Thanks