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[QUOTE=BoobsMcghee;3075139]I've been reading through a lot of older threads and noticed different approaches to negotiations on ThaiFriendly and similar sites. Some guys seem to ask the girl for her rate first, while others appear to simply make an offer (e. G. , "X baht for why") and let her accept, decline, or counter.

For those of you who've been doing this a while, what is your typical approach?

* Do you ask her rate first?

* Do you make the first offer yourself?

* If you make the first offer, do you usually get a counteroffer, or is it mostly take-it-or-leave-it?

I'm not asking what the "right" price is. I'm more interested in how the negotiation itself usually unfolds in practice. I'the be interested to hear how you veterans typically handle it.[/QUOTE]I won't ask her fee first. I will ask if she would like to go upstairs (Soi 6, Pattaya) or if she would come back to my hotel for short time. At that point she will mention bar fines and rates. If she quotes a high rate, I will frown and tell her I won't pay that much. I will make a counteroffer only if she requests it. I will only negotiate briefly. I don't go for rock bottom pricing as it ruins the vibe. My stack permits me to do this. By the same token I won't accept her offer if it is way out of line. On very rare occasions I'll bring up pricing if she doesn't first. But I never sit there and haggle. I'll do one counteroffer at most.

[QUOTE=BoobsMcghee;3075275]Thanks. I should have clarified that I was thinking more along the P4 P side rather than cold approaching university students.

I'm 38, so while I don't think that's too old to date younger women in Thailand, I also realize walking up to Chula students probably isn't the best play. However, curious is You think it could still work for a normal looking 38 year old?

I was more wondering whether there are particular soapies, massage places, MPs, bars, websites, or other venues that tend to have a younger (18) group of women compared to the average. That was more the direction of my question.

I want True age if at all possible. I also don't mind going to a second city at all. I only have about 2 weeks so time for "courtship".[/QUOTE]Having read a bunch of your posts and a couple of DMs, it's apparent that you are doing a lot of learning in an attempt to get results of a seasoned punter while you are still green. It won't happen until you have invested time and money in kingdom. It's going to take a long time until you understand things to the level of seasoned veterans, like Eih Tooms. I estimate that I've spent cumulative 18 months in Thailand and my knowledge is far below the true veterans.

It's time to take your trip, enjoy the successes, learn from the failures. If you are satisfied with CFS and have some baht to spend, you will have lots of success. At age 38 with average appearance, clean, well groomed, and polite, some of those successes will be with girls 25 and under. As Eih Tooms has written, the challenge is getting CIP or CIM/swallow from pretty girls.

[QUOTE=BoobsMcghee;3075226]The search function doesn't seem to be working for me, so apologies if this has been covered before.

Aside from ThaiFriendly or possibly SWs, where do you guys find the better-looking 18 yr olds Bangkok?

Are there any particular massage shops, soapy massage places, websites, apps, cafs, nightlife areas, or other venues that tend to attract that age category?

I haven't really seen a dedicated thread discussing this, so I figured I'the ask. I'm mainly interested in hearing where the veterans have had the most success and whether there are places that tend to be overlooked.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations or experiences.[/QUOTE]So you want to bareback cum-in-pussy an 18-year-old Thai stunner, but you are a middle-aged farang with only normal looks. Honestly, hardly any Thai stunners that age will want to risk breeding with you. However, if you put in a lot of work and offer at least 350,000 baht and 60 grams of gold for Sin Sod, you may get a taker.

[QUOTE=BoobsMcghee;3075275]I only have about 2 weeks so time for "courtship".[/QUOTE]Why bother with all the bullshit and expectations, then? Just make a list of places to check out, visit them, have fun. Don't forget the freelancers, still some decent Viets on Soi 4 and Soi 11. If you see someone you like, great, if not, move on to the next place.

Thailand's scene doesn't really specialize in top-shelf looks or ticking exact boxes like age. Most hookers look worse for the wear, with bad tattoos, ugly nose jobs, horrid makeup. There's still fun to be had, so chill out, enjoy looking and when you spot someone you like, try to have a bit of chemistry.

Accept that you're a newbie, that you're not going to outdo anyone or unlock some secret venue or method that's so much better than average.

If you have a specification fetish, try high end places like Maria massage (usually for Asian customers).

As for the "second city", for mongering split your time between Bangkok and Pattaya.

Regarding price negotiations, it depends on the venue. Most "massage" style places have fixed prices. If you know the going rate, it's best to offer first and start on the low side, but still realistic (e.g. you can offer 1000 for short time to a freelancer on Soi 4, but not in an agogo).

BTW, 20 is the minimum legal age in the pay-for-play industry, avoid any lower than that.

Hey Boobs. You've been given a lot of excellent info and advice from a number of long time expats and frequent visitors totaling decades of experience. In addition, YouTube has some good videos produced by guys living in BKK and Pattaya and elsewhere. Read, watch, and learn. Hand holding is not often on the menu here. You've already been blessed.

Sam.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;3075347]

Thailand's scene doesn't really specialize in top-shelf looks or ticking exact boxes like age. Most hookers look worse for the wear, with bad tattoos, ugly nose jobs, horrid makeup. There's still fun to be had, so chill out, enjoy looking and when you spot someone you like, try to have a bit of chemistry.

Accept that you're a newbie, that you're not going to outdo anyone or unlock some secret venue or method that's so much better than average.


[/QUOTE]I appreciate the advice. I've only been to Thailand once, so I'm definitely still a newbie, but even just walking around Nana I saw plenty of gorgeous girls. Maybe it depends on the venue or just personal taste. I was mainly asking so I can make the most of my next trip, not because I'm expecting some secret place.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;3075366]Hey Boobs. You've been given a lot of excellent info and advice from a number of long time expats and frequent visitors totaling decades of experience. In addition, YouTube has some good videos produced by guys living in BKK and Pattaya and elsewhere. Read, watch, and learn. Hand holding is not often on the menu here. You've already been blessed.

Sam.[/QUOTE]I appreciate it. That is why I love this Board LOL. You guys are hella interesting and helpful.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3075338]So you want to bareback cum-in-pussy an 18-year-old Thai stunner, but you are a middle-aged farang with only normal looks. Honestly, hardly any Thai stunners that age will want to risk breeding with you. However, if you put in a lot of work and offer at least 350,000 baht and 60 grams of gold for Sin Sod, you may get a taker.[/QUOTE]Haha, I think we're talking about two different things. I wasn't asking how to marry an 18-year-old or have kids with one. I was asking about the P4 P scene. Based on what I've seen, there are definitely attractive 18-20-year-olds seeing much older foreign dudes, so I don't think 350,000 baht and sin sod are required 😂 maybe 2500-3000 baht LOL. I met and ate out a cute 18 yr old civilian chick from online once LOL did not get to fuck though, unfortunately. Her pussy tasted like sweet nectar of the gods.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2983812]Really, if you can elevate your game to these university dorm girls. But first you got to get past the gatekeeper to be able live with girls in their dorm. What I do is sign up for English classes. Pretend I don't understand the language. Me speaky no gud Engrish. Then I draw the attention to me by being the best student in the class and ready to tutor some of these girls. Even do their homework for them which is a breeze for me. They happy. Me happy. We fuck. Most are ready and available for that SD / SB life if you are a decent looking distinguished gentleman like myself. But the annoying thing is these girls aren't as clean as the pros. They don't want to shower before and after the deed.

Immature brats! LOL.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6OZaPYsrKSc&pp=ygUiY29sbGVnZSBnaXJscyBhcmUgZWFzeSBqZXNzZSBqYW1lcw%3D%3D[/URL]

[B]How you like that boom boom pow?[/B][/QUOTE]I know this is digging up an old thread, but it was too good not to ask about.

At ElMexicant, were you literally taking English classes at a university to get access to the dorms? If so, what kind of program was it?

That's the part I couldn't quite wrap my head around. I understand the strategy of helping classmates and building a social circle, but I wasn't aware there were English programs that would actually put a foreigner in student housing.

Was it a university language program, a private school, or something else? I'm genuinely curious because that's a pretty unique approach to fuck young women.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3075338]So you want to bareback cum-in-pussy an 18-year-old Thai stunner, but you are a middle-aged farang with only normal looks. Honestly, hardly any Thai stunners that age will want to risk breeding with you. However, if you put in a lot of work and offer at least 350,000 baht and 60 grams of gold for Sin Sod, you may get a taker.[/QUOTE]555, that's a bit of an exaggeration. In certain situations, it is possible. I'm a whole lot older and less desirable than an average 38 year old and I've done it many times for about 2 orders of magnitude less money and no mention of sin sod. There are two keys. First, convince them you are STD free. Be ready to present your recent STD test results that show a minimum of negative HIV (that's what they mostly worry about). Even with valid documentation, most will not trust you and probably not even look. Second, convince them you've had a vasectomy. I don't know how to do this, I've had vasectomy and many subsequent testings, but I can't prove it. If you haven't had a vasectomy, you should stick to CFS; these girls may or may not be on birth control and they lie like a rug.

If you've courted a mamasan at a go-go club, work through her. Show mamasan your clean bill of health and convince her you've had a vasectomy. But, that's not going to happen quickly.

The less desirable girls are often ready for BBFSCIP, some without surcharge and some with surcharge. They need the money. It's the hotties that are more difficult, they have plenty of offers.

[QUOTE=BoobsMcghee;3075378]I know this is digging up an old thread, but it was too good not to ask about.
At ElMexicant, were you literally taking English classes at a university to get access to the dorms? If so, what kind of program was it?
[/QUOTE]ElMexicant has not been active since April 2025, so you probably won't get an answer.
But that doesn't matter, because 99% of his posts were bullshit. Including the one you replied to.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3075415]ElMexicant has not been active since April 2025, so you probably won't get an answer.
But that doesn't matter, because 99% of his posts were bullshit. Including the one you replied to.[/QUOTE]Lmao, I probably should've seen that coming. I read that whole "Dorm Sweet Dorm" saga thinking this guy had discovered some genius loophole. Turns out the real lesson was not to believe everything you read on ISG. 🤣.

[QUOTE=BoobsMcghee;3075441]Lmao, I probably should've seen that coming. I read that whole "Dorm Sweet Dorm" saga thinking this guy had discovered some genius loophole. Turns out the real lesson was not to believe everything you read on ISG. 🤣.[/QUOTE]You should indeed not believe everything you read here. However, it is certainly possible to fuck students in BKK. You can find them in Thai Friendly, for example.
Recently I had a 24 yo math student, and a 22 yo law student. They both had very tight pussies, but that's probably a coincidence.
Other board members have also reported that they fucked students.

Addition: I forgot that in my last holiday in Pattaya I had an engineering student from Bangkok. Nice girl, but a bit dick scared unfortunately.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;3075389]555, that's a bit of an exaggeration. In certain situations, it is possible. I'm a whole lot older and less desirable than an average 38 year old and I've done it many times for about 2 orders of magnitude less money and no mention of sin sod. There are two keys. First, convince them you are STD free. Be ready to present your recent STD test results that show a minimum of negative HIV (that's what they mostly worry about). Even with valid documentation, most will not trust you and probably not even look. Second, convince them you've had a vasectomy. I don't know how to do this, I've had vasectomy and many subsequent testings, but I can't prove it. If you haven't had a vasectomy, you should stick to CFS; these girls may or may not be on birth control and they lie like a rug.

If you've courted a mamasan at a go-go club, work through her. Show mamasan your clean bill of health and convince her you've had a vasectomy. But, that's not going to happen quickly.

The less desirable girls are often ready for BBFSCIP, some without surcharge and some with surcharge. They need the money. It's the hotties that are more difficult, they have plenty of offers.[/QUOTE]Haha, now you are talking my language. Last trip I walked around Sukhumvit / Nana before and seen fat, ugly older men holding hands with 18-25 yr olds every day. Surely a slightly chubby, but otherwise in-shape and normal looking 38 year old man can manage something in another 2 weeks. I just want this trip to be better than last time. last time was just "okay" by most standards.

So for P4 P, where are you finding the 18-20's year olds specifically; Nana, the gogo bars, Soi 4, or somewhere else? Trying to zero in on the spots with the youngest talent. BBFSCIP would be nice as well. I don't want / need "stunners" and will happily settle for cute.

(Side note: out of curiosity, any luck with civilian 18-year-olds too? I managed to eat a civvie's pussy from online once, but she wouldn't let me fuck because she is "scared" of "that" whatever the hell that meant.)

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3075444]You should indeed not believe everything you read here. However, it is certainly possible to fuck students in BKK. You can find them in Thai Friendly, for example.
Recently I had a 24 yo math student, and a 22 yo law student. They both had very tight pussies, but that's probably a coincidence.
Other board members have also reported that they fucked students.

Addition: I forgot that in my last holiday in Pattaya I had an engineering student from Bangkok. Nice girl, but a bit dick scared unfortunately.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the amazing intel man. I feel this upcoming trip will be way better than the first time due to all the advice. Although, When they act 'dick scared' I am assuming blocking full access/depth or adjusting her hips in a way you can't fully penetrate because of "pain" or some bullshit. You don't just remind them you are paying and tell them to stop being stupid? or end the session and pay half, or less to get out? In maybe not so many words of course. Assuming she was FL and not civ.